No Agenda - 1750 - "SPLESH!"

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I call bogus. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025. This is your award-winning Kibo Nation Media Assassination episode 1750. This is No Agenda. Fat-fingered and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:24 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody has to resign, Oh man. Oh man. It's days like this when the job is just tough. Because there's just nothing else in the world is happening there's nothing happening it's all signal gate I know you feel the same she's like how well there goes the material no I found some stuff outside of signal gate oh me too just a car carav says the other big news oh no but that's not news we don't talk about this morning the MS-13 guy, some guy, some 25-year-old guy was arrested. Well I'm glad you mentioned it. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Here's Pam Bondage. Good morning. Thank you for being here. You're welcome. Did you see Kash Patel in this? They're all there. But did you see what he had on his FBI flight jacket? Yeah, we thought that was camo. No, it wasn't camo. But did you see what he had on his FBI flight jacket?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah, yeah. We thought that was camo. No, it wasn't camo. No, that's his outdoor arresting people jacket. He got the hat on, he's got his sneakers on. Yeah, cash, cash. We have been out since about 4.30 this morning. Hold on, let's stop for a second.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, really. Why is she even there? Well, they all report to her. But she was at, she's there, cash, they're all there. It's like. Well they were all out at 4 a.m. this morning and then they had donuts and like, come on, let's go announce this thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah, everyone dressed right. It just seemed to be showboating if you ask me. You think? You think? Whatever. This was a, please pay no attention to Signalgate. We got an MS-13 guy. I think that's exactly right. Oh yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:02:11 The great men and women of law enforcement have been working on this operation for days and days and probably weeks. You don't know? You don't know? Probably weeks? Do they report to you? I thought that was... You think she'd have an exact date when they started?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah, we started this on this date and we got... I guess not. This morning, early this morning, one of the top leaders... Top... I love this. The top leaders, the tippy top, all the way at the top of the pyramid, top leader. Leaders of MS-13 was apprehended. He was the leader for the East Coast, one of the top three in the entire country. Right here in Virginia, living half an hour outside of Washington, DC. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador, and he will not be living in our country much longer.
Starting point is 00:03:07 He's in custody this morning. One of the top leaders right here near our nation's capital. He was right there, one of the top guys. Hey listen, the biggest criminals live in Washington, okay? They don't live in Virginia. But good job. Good job everybody I just let me do the I have a couple signal gay things just to Can we have the super clip? I have a super clip. Yeah, I don't know which one you're talking about
Starting point is 00:03:37 That's the one with all the Democrats going how is the worst thing that's ever happened to the country since no No, I don't have that one. No. Why? Because I was looking for super cuts, not super clip. Super cuts, a haircut. No, I actually got a... I thought it would be fun to do a different version of super cut, which...
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah, we're doing something different. It's upside down day here on the No Agenda Show, people. The lip joes are in the house. They've made a big deal out of this because we've had two perfect months. The main thing was nothing happened. The attack was totally successful. In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I always say you have to learn from every experience. Hillary's private email scandal, which put our classified information in the reach of our enemies, disqualifies her from the presidency. This journalist, Mr. President, wants the world talking about more hoaxes and this kind of nonsense, rather than the freedom that you're enabling. The president's national security advisor sent top secret emails on an unsecured server that we know our enemies were trying to access. He was sending back and forth freewheeling and yet we see nothing there.
Starting point is 00:04:57 My communications to be clear in a signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information. This was a huge mistake, correct? No. Mishandling classified information is still a violation of the Espionage Act. It started with Hillary Clinton, it has continued without accountability. Nobody was texting war plans and that's all I have to say about that. If there was anyone other than Hillary Clinton, they would be in jail right now.
Starting point is 00:05:26 When you take something out of a skiff, if you're a senator, you know exactly what you're doing. So I found that supercut. I thought that was rather entertaining. Yeah. You know, but more fun was a trend we have noticed recently amongst Democrats,
Starting point is 00:05:43 affectionately called the delusional Dems, and it's the cussing. And so here they have an opportunity to have the upper hand on everything. I mean, politics, truth doesn't matter, it's just whatever is on X and whatever is being replayed by the media. But they cannot help themselves. Here's Adam Schiff. So tonight I want to talk about Signalgate and what a colossal fuck-up this is in terms of our national security. Why? He doesn't need to, he does a six minute video, but that's how he starts it off. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Even Van Jones, I don't know if you have the clip of that. I have that. I have that. First, wait, wait, wait. First, let's, you have the clip of that. I have that. He notices it too. Wait, wait, wait. First, you're jumping the gun. I always do that. You're jumping the gun in the sequence. You want to go, yeah, yeah, yeah. That means quiet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Mayor Pete, lovable, adorable little Mayor Pete throws a couple bombs. Oh no. Is that a breastfeeding thing? Yeah. It does not. Hey, it's Pete. I try not to jump in with a tape. By the way, we should start our not. Hey, it's Pete. I'd try not to jump in with a take on everything. By the way, we should start our show. Hey, it's Pete.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, what does he think he is, Madonna? Hey, it's Pete. Hey, it's Pete. I'd try not to jump in with a take on everything or comment on everything we see in the news of the day. But what we learned about today is truly incredible. The U.S. Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Vice President of the United States, and other very senior, very powerful people, they've done a great job
Starting point is 00:06:54 of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of
Starting point is 00:07:02 doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of doing a great job of today is truly incredible. The U S secretary of defense, the national security advisor, the vice president to the United States and other very senior, very powerful Trump white house officials, it turns out discussed highly classified war plans, not only on an unclassified channel, but accidentally and randomly, it seems, including a journalist and to see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic
Starting point is 00:07:34 fuckup like this demonstrates that these are not serious people. Not done yet. This kind of intelligence failure calls the question on whether there is any place for merit or competence in this administration at all. Because if they're not highly serious consequences for this level of screw up, then it will make clear that all of the bluster about merit that you hear about from this White House is just bullshit. We deserve so much better than this. It is getting clearer by the day that the people in charge of the American government cannot keep the American people
Starting point is 00:08:11 safe. All right. Here's the Van Jones remark. I think that this party is scrambling trying to seem tough. And I'm seeing this party traffic and a lot of curse words. That's supposed to be the new cool thing to do. I don't think that that's going to be as useful. I even heard Pete Buttigieg with a whole bunch of curse words. I don't know who gave that memo.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I don't think that's very useful. Yeah, so it was a memo. Clearly there was a memo that went out. Van is questioning who gave out the memo. Is that another Chuck Schumer thing, do you think? Yeah, let's all talk tough. I think this is organic. I think it stems from the powers of the president.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I've said this before, that the president sets the moral tone of the country and it's always been the case. That's sort of the first thing they teach you in college poli-psi classes. And so they've given the president gave the go ahead because he says bullshit all the time. Yeah, but not the F word. I've not I haven't heard him F bomb. No, I don't know. I think he has but I don't think it's it doesn't. The way they the main main people that do this, of course, are the main screaming memes that are on the me me screaming me me.
Starting point is 00:09:22 What kind of screaming me me? What kind of backhanded slap is that? It's your own. What's it called? The screaming memes. It's a great band name, but I've never heard of the screaming memes. Screaming memes are the people that are on the tick tock and they're screaming and yelling and, and cussing. And they're the ones who really set the stage for this, it seems to me. And now that the fact that the politicians are starting to cuss,
Starting point is 00:09:46 this is really... And they're the ones who bitched and moaned about coarseness. Oh, coarse. Oh, Trump is bad. His language. So coarse. Yes. If you're going to do that, if you're going to set up yourself by complaining about coarseness and then you start cussing,
Starting point is 00:10:03 this is not, again, this is not a good look. I do have a couple of insightful clips about this because we're not going to do what everybody else is doing. You know, I heard, I was listening to DHUMPLUGED every Tuesday. They do it live at eight o'clock. We do. It's also a podcast. Yes, it is John C. Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz and
Starting point is 00:10:25 Horowitz is saying why does the news always do five stories? They do five stories all day long five store and then you and you Backed him up by saying that's what Fox does every single Fox show five stories five stories And the reason for that is you play the hits man when you're in a linear time format You people aren't watching all day You want them to tune in and get the top five stories. That's what that's about. Play the hits.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You can't go wrong by playing Madonna. Yeah, that's probably the only... That's what I remember. I remember when I was at Tech TV and we had an old pro that was running, one of the guys that was one of the main producers of the whole operation. He said, and you get a story that's hot. Hot! You just milk it.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. It's all you do all day is just go on this story and that's all you play. You just yak, yak, yak about the one thing. I mean, we shy away from that on this show because I think people are sick of it. Yeah, who needs that? In this, I mean, people always want to hear our opinions. Well, yeah, but we have opinions.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Okay, I'm just gonna- Well, we have different, we also have perspective. We have a different look at these things. We are awesome. That's what we're trying to- We're great. Here's a backgrounder. It was the screenshot the world was waiting for after members of the now infamous Hootie
Starting point is 00:11:48 PC small group lined up on Tuesday to insist no classified information was shared on the Signal Chat. The Atlantic magazine dropped the so-called war plan Pete Hegseth sent to senior intelligence officials and a journalist from the Atlantic that readers might judge for themselves. 12.15 estimated time F-18's launch first strike package. Package! 13.45 trigger based F-18 first strike window starts. Target terrorist is at his known location so should be on time. Also strike drones launch MQ-9s.
Starting point is 00:12:23 After the initial strike the target is identified on signal as the Hootie's quote, top missile guy. Members of the signal thread are now saying the Atlantic magazine's editor Jeffrey Goldberg oversold the extent of the breach. Among them, the Pentagon chief himself. Nobody's texting war plans. There's no units, no locations, no routes, no flight paths, no sources, no methods, no classified information.
Starting point is 00:12:54 This, after Goldberg's original article, said the plan included precise information about targets. But in the hands of foreign intelligence, the messages sent two hours before zero hour would have been an ample tip-off to hooty command Of an impending attack. You're right about the president setting the tone because not a single person can just say yeah, that was dumb They don't seem capable of that Like yeah. Well, we were in a hurry. We're doing this, you know, It's an approved thing. We just threw together a group. And that was bad. Yeah, this is the era of no apologies.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, sorry about that Vax. No one is going to apologize for everything. And President Trump, he's so smart. The Vax is still on the market. Of course, of course. I mean, get your eighth booster. Get your eighth booster. Get your eighth booster. It wasn't interesting, because this journalist is interesting
Starting point is 00:13:50 for a number of reasons, and then we can talk about what we think happened briefly. Matt Taibbi was on Newsmax. Newsmax, he's a top, top guy on Newsmax as a guest. And here's what he had to say about the Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg. What exactly is Jeffrey Goldberg in your mind? What do you think of this guy?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Look, a lot of journalists, when Jeffrey Goldberg's name comes up, we all kind of look at each other with a big news glance. This is somebody who has a reputation for getting things massively wrong and somehow being promoted anyway. He was infamous for getting the WMD story Wrong multiple times. In fact, he won multiple awards for getting that story wrong and somehow still ended up the editor of Atlantic magazine So he's a figure of some mystery in the business Yeah, that was the great terror article in the New Yorker in 2002. Yeah. He's the one who promoted the, uh, suckers and losers story. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:53 John Kelly commentary. Uh, he also did two or three other of these things. He's a spook. There's gotta be something like that. I mean, I don't have, I am not looking at his Wiki page so I can do a spot to spook analysis, but there's something fishy about, first of all, why is he the guy that ended up on this thing? The second thing was, is that the walls, the National Security Advisor says when he went to CIA, I guess, that first thing they gave him is a secure phone. It had a signal on it and then he talked to some CIA guys, he talked about this in the testimony.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And they had a communication, somebody there says, oh no, don't worry about it, everyone's got this, just use it, it's fine. And then all of a sudden, just Jeffrey Goldberg guy gets on the call, how'd that happen? And of course nobody can figure out how that happened, and maybe they will, maybe they won won't this whole thing is a setup Goldberg dropped out of college and worked for a time at the Washington
Starting point is 00:15:52 Post because that's where all college dropouts go did you drop out of college you're hired son come on in would he get hired by Woodward he then moved to Israel and served in the Israeli Defense Forces during the first Intifada. He was a prison guard. There he, let me see. You're on his wiki page? Yeah, I am. I am.
Starting point is 00:16:21 He's a, oh, can't be trusted, dual Israeli citizen. It's one of those guys. Can't trust him. Oh, I can't be trusted dual Israeli citizen. It's one of those guys can't trust him Well the any other spot to spook good indicators don't really see anything Well, that's actually good. I mean it may actually be a real one a real one real one Yes, as opposed to one that's just kind of you know, sloppy Well, because the fact that he's the guy of all the all the people that ended up on this call, why him? Well, you know, sometimes, just Occam's razor, sometimes things just happen. Yeah, but this sort of thing is anything but Occam's razor.
Starting point is 00:17:02 This is like the opposite. Well, it's so out there. No, not really. I mean, if you're adding because the whole signal texts thread was about adding people to the mix. Yeah, but you have to have first you have to have the number in your book. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean you have lots of people's numbers in your book.
Starting point is 00:17:19 You wouldn't add to a text chat with me. I'm sorry. You have an actual book. What am I thinking? You don't have it in your phone. Actually, I do have the Google, uh, I do have a large address book, book on Google and they will move it to my phone. Every time I get a new Android,
Starting point is 00:17:42 you've gotten a new one. Well, it's not, it's not new, but every time you get a new Android. Do you've gotten a new one? Well, it's not new, but every time you get a different phone, I have different phones over time that end up in the same drawer, but when you boot it, they demand that you log in, that somehow you gotta log your old account in, and once you do that, then they throw a bunch of crap on your phone.
Starting point is 00:18:03 But they're throwing stuff on, I have phone numbers for people that I don't even know and so this so it's possible but but again some somehow that number got on that phone Walls's phone. Well he know how. No I'm pretty sure they know each other. They know each other. Walls claims that he doesn't know him. I don't buy that. I'm not buying that. I like what Sir Grantelius of the Great Plains said. Waltz was working for the Department of Defense
Starting point is 00:18:36 as an advisor to Cheney in the Bush days. Goldberg was publishing work actively supporting the invasion of Iraq. That's your WMD. The Cheney gang despises Trump. Could Goldberg have been invited on purpose? That's what he says. That's reasonable.
Starting point is 00:18:54 That is, that's reasonable. Yeah, but- There's a lot of reasonable things that you can But who is this? But who is this? I think this is, if it's targeted, it's targeted against Hegseth. Who has the capability? No, first of all, um, signal. They really want, they really hate Hegseth.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yes. And Hegseth has responded very poorly. He's not good at this. No, you think he'd be better cause he's media savvy. He's so defensive and, oh no, this is not this bull crap. That guy is a, That guy is no good. No, it's just that Hicks plays too much of a tough character. He's a tough guy. They push him into this position where he's got to be kind of assertive and he
Starting point is 00:19:38 doesn't have experience in a large bureaucracy so he's a little sensitive about that. And so he's in a position where they can get shook. And so far, I think Trump likes him. I think he probably could do the job, but they're going to try to shake him out of there. I think he has to go. Out of all this, they're not going to stop. And if this was a targeted thing,
Starting point is 00:20:03 then it was to get to make Hegseth look bad. Because it was Hegseth who's sitting there going like, we got the Reaper drones, we're going to kill this guy. And the thing that's kind of sick about it all is the jubilee. And like, yay, American flag emoji, punching fist emoji, fire emoji, we killed him. Yeah, that was a mistake. Of course, but that's how these people are. American flag emoji, punching fist emoji, fire emoji, we killed him. Yeah, that was a mistake. Of course, but that's how these people are.
Starting point is 00:20:29 That's probably how most people are. But it's all- Yeah, we're number one, foam finger. Yeah, it's always a little jar. I mean, to me, that was the jarring thing. I mean, not that this was, and clearly, clearly the timing of this and how much time there was before the reaper drones and whatever else they were planning clearly that would have been enough to alert people here's my question though this is the thing this is the part i understand and this is
Starting point is 00:20:58 where it smells of a setup if this is you or i and we get added to some awesome text group and on this text group, it's podcasters. It's Megyn Kelly, it's Dan Bongino. Oh no, he's no longer a podcaster. It's Tucker Carlson. They have like this top, top, top podcasters group. I would not be removing myself. This was brought up on Gut fell by one of the, one of the contestants. Who does that? I forgot who was, but one of them said, why would you out yourself if you're going to end up on these groups?
Starting point is 00:21:37 Because you could, as a journalist in particular, because you, you're like the fly on the, now you're a fly on the wall. Why wouldn't you want to continue to be the fly on the wall as long as you can? And you just build up and build up. Do you remember back when you still have one back in the landline days, if you called someone on a landline, you know the thing that's on the wall. And the other person didn't know no, how did it work? It was like, there was a thing where you could keep listening.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I mean, if the other person doesn't hang up, and there was something where this happens regularly. There was some situations where, well, first of all, when I was in France for the first time in 73. Getting your hair cut by Pierre. Yes. That's when you had to always go to the postal office to make calls. It was very strange to do an overseas call.
Starting point is 00:22:30 You had to go to the post office. It was a postal telephone post office. Yes, PTT. But the phones, if people did have a phone in their house, when you hung up, it didn't hang up anything. Yes. So you could stay on the line, and when the other person hung up, you hear the click, but the phone was still
Starting point is 00:22:52 live for a good five minutes. This is what I'm talking about. I remember this. There was something like that that went on in this country, too, but it wasn't quite the same mechanism. It was something else. No, I think I remember it from the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I remember it, too, because I remember people hanging up. No, I think I remember it. I remember it too, because I remember people hanging up and then I could still hear it. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and what you did was you didn't hang up and say, Oh, I hope I don't hear anything I shouldn't be hearing. No! You're listening. Well, that's like being on the party line. Yes. Which when you're, when I was a real little kid and I was on the party line all the time,
Starting point is 00:23:24 and I've talked about this on the show before, and I got caught a couple of times by the girl, because she'd be talking to her boyfriend, I'm listening in, these two cooing over each other and she caught me somehow. Well, here's a modern day example. Let's move it out of boomer land. Butt dial. When someone butt dials you and you hear them, same thing, you don't hang up and go, oh someone butt dials you and you hear them, same thing, you don't hang up and go, Oh, butt dial. No, let me hear what they say. You listen for at least a little while, but if it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:57 obviously you're not going to hear anything. Cause you can tell by the nature of the butt dial. Cause you can't hear, you just hear rustling. You didn't even hang up. But otherwise, yeah, you listen a little bit if you can hear anything. But if you don't hear anything, you don't listen. So it doesn't make sense that this guy outed himself like this. Remove himself. And he's got, and his story was a nothing burger. You use nothing burger. And it basically use nothing burger. Yeah. It basically, there wasn't really anything.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It just was there to humiliate Hank Seth. So, and Walls to a lesser extent. Well, Walls is under attack. Um, uh, so people are now combing through Walls and they find out that, uh, his official ex account, he's following a gay porn star known as big Dick bottom, a black guy, a black guy. Really? Yeah. I didn't catch that.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And then he unfollowed him quick. Yeah, I would imagine. Sorry, not porn star, an adult content creator I'm sorry by the way. I will say this so that could be that's that could be planted Oh, yeah, easy. Hey, let me let me see your phone for a sec You know, who do I know that does that who did things? Yes, John C. Dvorak Give me your phone for a second and you boop boop boop switch it to Korean And it would be impossible to find your way back to turn it back and turn off the Korean language. Yeah, you have to do a lot of research to figure out how to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That was one of your most... Come on people. It's a horrible gag. It's just as horrible. So, yeah, my feeling is this is the first major chink in the Hegseth armor. And that was the intent. Also, it was from the account from Goldberg, it was Waltz who added him to his... Now that can... Signal doesn't send out invitations as far as I know. I was surprised, just as an an aside that Signal is an approved encrypted messaging app for the U S government. Do you know that the, the, the chairman of the Signal board is a foundation that runs is the, the woman, she is the head of NPR.
Starting point is 00:26:21 No, she's gone, but I think didn't the woman from Blue Cry also come? No, the woman from NPR still runs it. Cause they, here, here's gone, but didn't the woman from Blue Cry also come from the single? No, the woman from NPR still runs it because they... here, here's the clip. They talk about it at... I think I have one of the signals. I have a couple of her clips, but... No, I have the disclaimer. Okay. Uh...
Starting point is 00:26:39 Wow. Yeah, wow is right. You sure you have it? I know, I know I have it. I just don't know what it's called. Hmm, breach story weird NPR? Should we try that one? What is it? Breach story weird NPR.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Oh yeah, that could be it. The fallout continues from the revelation senior Trump administration officials somehow added a journalist to a signal group chat in which they discussed secret plans for military strikes in Yemen. At a White House hearing today, Democrats disputed the administration's claims. The information wasn't classified and called for people to be held accountable. Here's NPR's Ryan Lucas. Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee pushed Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe for answers, particularly after the full group chat chain was made public
Starting point is 00:27:29 by the Atlantic. It showed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth texting details on timing, weapons and attack sequencing of the U.S. airstrikes in Yemen. Here's Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe. Nobody is willing to come to us and say this was wrong. This was a breach of security and we won't do it again. Crowe, who is a former U.S. Army Ranger, said the refusal to accept responsibility is outrageous and a leadership failure and he called on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to resign.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Ryan Lucas, NPR News, Washington. NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the app. That's not the lady who was in Congress though. Yeah. No, her name is, I don't think that's her name. No, there were two ladies in Congress. Hold on a second. NPR News, Washington.
Starting point is 00:28:17 NPR CEO Catherine Maher chairs the board of the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the app. The other lady, Catherine... Catherine, that's her March or March or March or something. There are two ladies from NPR called Catherine? Marr. Marr. Did he say Marr?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah, so I think it's... Let me listen again. Did he say Marr? Washington. NPR CEO Catherine Marr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation. Marr, Marr, Marr. Okay, oh, interesting. Well, what is she doing that for?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Well, that makes it all very suspicious. I thought it was very suspicious the first time I heard that. And that's one of the few times that they actually ran the disclaimer. You're going to grill me in Congress? Watch this. Can I play a couple of those clips? I thought those were kind of interesting. I would like you to play them. I didn't get any of those clips. I love those clips. The thing is they don't have, it was funny to listen to, I will say this, I was almost going to take this, but then I was thinking, well, one too many Jesse Waters analysis
Starting point is 00:29:15 is not good for this show. Oh, do you have more today? This is too bad. I have none. Oh, good. But Jesse Waters had some of the best of the clips and then when you played him up against the longer exposition on PBS NewsHour, there was no comparison. The Waters stuff was far superior.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Well I focused really on one thing and that's the money because that's what it was about. Do we continue to fund the national public radio? Where does the money go that's and the kicker is all with the government doesn't really have the only gives maybe 1% of the total and doesn't mean a lot and oh who cares we need this money okay I guess I don't need to play the clips you did it again you went straight to the kicker. But that's what you set me up for.
Starting point is 00:30:07 You've got to do a better job of blocking me. I'm going to play Catherine Amar, be quiet. I understand the subcommittee has questions about funding for NPR and public radio. The vast majority of federal dollars, more than 100 million of the 121 million annual appropriation for public radio goes directly to 386 local non-commercial stations across the nation This highly efficient investment enables your local stations to raise an average of seven dollars for every federal dollar as a grantee Of the corporation for public broadcasting NPR received federal funding of eleven point two million last year
Starting point is 00:30:43 These funds allow us to maintain the national public radio satellite system, helping safeguard our national security, civil defense, and disaster response, and enabling public radio to reach every corner of America. Additionally, these funds help protect journalists covering our troops overseas and reverse the decline of local journalism. So people don't really understand how NPR works. They're all independent stations. They have to do their own fundraising.
Starting point is 00:31:11 The problem is they basically can't create much of their own local content. I mean, even KUT in Austin, remember when we had Snowpocalypse, they were playing in fresh Air with Terry Gross. They have to buy the programming and that's where a lot of the money goes because it's commercial companies making the majority of this content. It's not like government employees. All of this comes through the PRX, the public radio exchanges, the public media, I forget
Starting point is 00:31:48 the name of the group. So really the only thing that makes it a network is explained here. I'd like to spend the rest of my time talking about funding. This is Jack, representative Jack from Georgia. I know that some of my colleagues talked about it a little bit today, but could you walk us through the amount of money that NPR received from CPB annually? Yes, sure, sir.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We receive $11.2 million this past year, the majority of which goes to the public radio satellite system, which we operate on behalf of the entire public radio network. We also received a smaller amount of funding. Let's just stop there. The PRSSSS the public radio Satellite system is an anachronism
Starting point is 00:32:29 This thing should be immediately be shot out of the sky They you know that I think there's still one show that broadcast live the morning edition. Maybe all things considered Is a live stream from the satellite which of course we could do much cheaper with a Starlink dish. That would work in a case of an emergency, but you could still do it. I mean, we've had T1 lines for a long time and what all these, it's a very expensive, very antiquated system where they, in essence, download WAV files of programming. That's the incredible importance of that $11 million. And of course, Catherine Marr's salary and whatever else they do with that.
Starting point is 00:33:19 But that thing is absolutely not necessary. But I don't think any of these people in Congress actually understand what NPR is or how it works. We also received a smaller amount of funding in the course of the past year that went to help us hire those additional editors and analysts in order to be able to beef up that editorial review. We received funding to support the coverage of the recent election in order to make sure that we had our journalists all across the country and were able to speak to Americans of all different political backgrounds.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And what percentage of your budget share comes from the federal government? Depending on how you count it, sir, it is less than 5%. And to help me understand too, the CPB, as I understand it, Congress has appropriated $500 million to the CPB. It flows out. And I think smaller radio stations go and apply for grants for it. $500 million for CPB, which includes PBS?
Starting point is 00:34:18 What else does that include? It includes a lot of those little stations who have to give the money back. I mean, the whole thing is something of a Ponzi scheme. Do you receive payment from smaller radio stations through licensing agreements and things of that nature? We do and the fees for that are designed around the... What do you mean designed?
Starting point is 00:34:42 The fees are designed. And of course, Jack is only out to get her, to stick it to her like everybody else. No follow-up questions on that. They are designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations. So the fees are not designed around federal funding. How is a fee designed? I mean, a fee is a fee. So is it based upon how many people listen? Is it based on how much money you raise?
Starting point is 00:35:15 This makes no sense. They get money to keep the stations on the air. That's expensive. And then the fees are designed somehow? Designed? And then the fees are designed somehow? I think what she's trying to say is that if the larger markets have to pay more money, that's pretty common. It's like newspaper syndicates. If you're a small town paper with a hundred thousand circ,
Starting point is 00:35:38 you're not paying the same amount for the Dilbert cartoon as somebody with 250,000 circ. Designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations. So it's not, the fees are not designed around federal funding. They're designed around what sort of direct private support and donations they receive from members and listeners. Well, they're basing it on, she's saying that they base it on how much they get. So how much did you raise? $2 million. Oh, your fee is just... I don't think that's right.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I don't know what she's talking about. She's just rambling. I mean, I think she'd maybe just be snowing the guy. Well, here's the real question, and this came from Jack as well. Could NPR survive without the 5% that we give NPR annually? My belief is that the funding is essential to the public radio system and that is the 246 member stations, but the 1300 stations across the nation so that we're able as a network to serve all Americans with 100% coverage.
Starting point is 00:36:37 This is a snow job what she's saying right here. Yes. There is no substance to what she's saying. She's not answering the question. The federal funding for our network goes away. It means that people in rural parts of America, places where they can afford to make private donations to support their local journalism, those will be harmed. But sir, if I may, the bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices...
Starting point is 00:37:03 Because of the children. Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often under her. She says something very interesting. At first I misheard her, but she's saying, what I think she's saying here is rich people who've got a lot of choice won't be able to hear the poor suckers out in the sticks. Tell me I'm wrong. Americans in places that... You guys started over there.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often under-heard. Isn't that what she's saying? You won't hear from the poor people without us. That's exactly what she's saying? You won't hear from the poor people without us. That's exactly what she's saying. I don't know how... What else could that mean? So NPR...
Starting point is 00:37:52 So the rich people are going to suffer. Yes. They're going to suffer horribly. That's exactly what she's saying. If they don't give the little people some money so the little people can speak up because the little people don't have a voice without the government money. So you bastards in the government, you better give the little people some money so the little people can speak up because the little people don't have a voice without the government money. So you bastards in the government, you better give the little people some money because you're just shutting them down.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Have you ever heard of X or Facebook? Little people have a voice these days, lady. Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often under-heard. And if you're an NPR guy, please make sure that next time you hear some poor people who aren't heard, make sure that if they're ever on NPR, you clip it. Because usually I only hear douchebags. It's all douchebags. Bottom line, if the 5% went away, would NPR still exist?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Well, it would be incredibly damaging to the federal, excuse me, to the national public radio system. Well, this is why I say— So in other words, 5%— Goes to the poor suckers. The 5% is going to be incredibly damaging because— Rich people. damaging because because rich people what we do we can't make up five percent of that of that that funding we can't find some other way of doing it we can't
Starting point is 00:39:11 open up a gates of hell of advertised we can't do anything but that five percent is it all there is to it that was the question that was that is something is wrong with that answer so instead we just hounded her. It is fun to listen to this. This was the representative Brandon Gill, who did exactly what they're doing to national security advisor Waltz. Let's comb through your tweets and embarrass you. It's interesting because a lot of your thinking as expressed by your public.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Hold on, can you stop for a second? Yeah. It's John Kennedy, the guy from Louisiana, I think is the guy who perfected this technique in Congress. Oh, and he has his own YouTube channels. And you don't even know how old it is. I mean, it's evergreen, the stuff he does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:01 He has nothing but, uh, showbiz appeal. Did you write this tweet? Let me just get it straight. And then you read the, is that something you actually wrote and say, well, I think so. Well, you would know. Well, I'm reading right from it. You might, you know, it goes on and on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:17 This guy did a pretty good job. It's interesting because a lot of your thinking as expressed by your public statements is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy? I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade. I've evolved as a human being because-
Starting point is 00:40:40 Wait, she said over the last half decade. I know, isn't that a great one? You mean five years. It was only four, actually, to be honest, if you look at the number. But it's four years ago. She wrote that. She's good. Oh, you know, my everything's evolved over the last half, the last half a decade. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:41:01 You mean during the Biden administration? Earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade. It has evolved. Why did you tweet that? I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say. Okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy? I don't believe that, sir. You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations. I don't think I've ever read that book, sir. You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time apparently the case for reparations. I don't think I've ever read that book sir. This is my best this is the
Starting point is 00:41:30 best one you were reading a book or you tweeted about this book I don't think I've read that book sir I don't think I read that book in the last half decade. You tweeted about it you said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations. He put that on Twitter in January of 2020. So she's a liar. Of course she didn't read the book. She didn't read White Fragility either. It's just virtue signaling. I have a couple clips coming up later in the show that also use this trick. When you say half, I'm thinking about this half decade thing. The first thing that if you're, if you're,
Starting point is 00:42:05 if you're calculating that in your mind, that's 50 years. Because when you think of it, when you say half and half is always at 0.5, so it's 0.5 decade 10, you multiply you in your brain, you multiply it. And so it says my, no, in the last half decade, it really, I think subconsciously it sounds like 50 years. I think it's a very tricky NLP. I think it's an NLP trick and is to give you the sense of it's a long time. Well, she also slipped in their federal public radio,
Starting point is 00:42:39 which I thought was interesting. She's good. Yeah. She, you know, yeah, spook. She may be a spook, but what's her name again? I thought was interesting. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's good. I have no doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that. Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races? This is great. This is your virtue signaling coming back and slapping you in the face like a wet salmon.
Starting point is 00:43:18 People inherently feel superior to other races? I do not. You don't? You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew up feeling superior, how white of me. Why did you tweet that? I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be ‑‑ to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages. So that's a racist statement right there. Because you were white, that means you had
Starting point is 00:43:40 lots of advantages. What about those poor schlubs who need five percent to listen to? To create content for NPR so the rich people can hear it Let me stop you for a second After high school Mar graduated from the Arabic language Institute Oh, yeah, we went to the intensive program at the American University of Cairo in 2003. She recalled that formative experience and she developed her interest in the Middle East. What's she doing here? Mara also studied at the Institut Francais.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Oh. And she was in Damascus. She was in Syria. She spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia. I'm reminded of a meeting I had with the economic hitman for lunch one time. He says, my entire family says don't take Arab, because they're all CIA spooks.
Starting point is 00:44:32 He said, don't take Arabic because you'll be stuck in the Middle East. No, you want to Mandarin. From 2007 to 2010, she was at UNICEF. Then she was at the National Democratic Institute as an ICT program officer, worked at the World Bank. She worked at Twitter, DC based access now operation and advocacy.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And she, this woman's wikimedia Wikipedia foundation. She was the communications officer there. Mary, just one thing after this is an unbelievable bio, US state department, foreign affairs policy board, Mary, just one thing after this is an unbelievable bio. US State Department Foreign Affairs Policy Board. Worked with Clinton, secretary with Hillary. She's just unbelievable. Well, this leads me to believe that Signal is not a safe app.
Starting point is 00:45:21 That leads me to believe the exact same thing. Or it's just a back door operation. I was probably reflecting on what it was. You know, talking about that, it's possible that they just slipped Jeffrey in and nobody really put him on the call at all. Very suspicious. And this woman is extremely suspicious. To grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages. It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior. I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experiences.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You think that white people should pay reparations? I have never said that, sir. Yes, you did. You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, yes, America, yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt, yes, reparations, yes, on this day. I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir. What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
Starting point is 00:46:16 I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us. That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted. And he went on and on and on and on. But that was entertaining. Yeah, of course. But she was slick. I watched her.
Starting point is 00:46:34 She was calm, cool, and collected. Yeah. I mean, in regards to Signal, that's a little troubling. I wonder why she, well, maybe on the other hand, maybe that's exactly why it is sanctioned for use within the government, which I learned. I didn't know that. I didn't think that they could use their private phones for anything that had a government business. How about the, don't we have the National Archive Act and all kinds of stuff that you have to, no matter what has been discussed, has to be archived somewhere?
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah, supposedly. Yeah. So someone needs to fess up or someone needs to go. And I think that Hegseth is one more gaffe away. Yes, you're right. One more gaffe he's done. Yeah. Yes, you're right. One more gaffe, he's done. Yeah. So, I like him, but the way he responded, did not like him.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Thought that was very, very, very poor. It was very poor. He wasn't, he's not using his resources. Use your words, Pete. No, I'm talking about, you know, there are people that Pentagon has something like 27 to 60,000 public relations specialists. I mean that many people so they can just hound the media. And they have people there that could, how should I respond to this? Meetings could take place with 10 of the top people and they would give him the marching orders.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I don't think, I think they cut him off. I wonder if this could have been a Pegasus type deal where someone basically just controls your phone and can remotely add someone to a signal chat. Watch this. That seems more likely. It wouldn't surprise me. hey, hey, watch this. That seems more likely. It wouldn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:48:25 By the way, Tina's out of town. She's in Indiana visiting her mom. And so that gives me an opportunity to watch stuff that, you know how you, oh, you don't know per se, but we're sitting at home and I'm surfing through the Netflix and I'm like, hey, let's watch this. And like, oh no, that is Robert De Niro in it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I hate him. Which by the way, I'm like, yeah, you're right. So I watched Zero Day, which is a starring De Niro and he's, uh, and he plays the president or ex president of the United States. Very good movie. And it deals a lot with, uh, with what can happen with phones and apps and even more delightful how, you know, what the circumvention is. You know, everyone gets around all of these things when they're doing something nefarious. How did the bad guys communicate?
Starting point is 00:49:19 How? Ham radio, baby. Ham radio. Ham radio. That's when the story. Well, you know, De Niro was also in Wag the Dog. Which was a fantastic movie. Which is another fantastic movie. He was great until he had to pull his own documentary out of the Tribeca Film Festival about how his kid got autism and he thought it was from vaccines.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And then they were like, you'll never make another movie in this town again, De Niro. Oh, okay. Do you remember that? That was during the show. That information has been lost on me. No, that was during the show. Yeah. He pulled from his own film festival. He pulled the doc. Oh, no, there's not enough evidence about this. I've decided to pull this documentary. That's when he went sour. Come on, man Taxi driver was he in taxi driver? Yeah, yeah So well, what else we got in this regard? Well, I don't think much else
Starting point is 00:50:15 I mean, we'll just see what happens, but we need to keep an eye on on Hague Seth because I think he's on deck Yeah, it's what it looks like. They're not letting up on this. Doesn't matter, you got a top MS-13 guy, who cares, Signalgate. You're gonna put 25% tariff on all cars coming into America. Who cares, Signalgate? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Nobody cares. Everybody wants it. Get some veterans. Well, I've fought in the war and people I know died because of intelligence mess ups. So cynical. All this stuff. I hate mainstream media. Let's go to the car tariffs.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Okay. I have the BBC. I have a series. These are all spelled C-A-E, and tariff is misspelled. I usually correct these with this sort of thing. You got K. Raifs. I thought K. Raifs was a lady that I was very interested in. When I saw your clips come in, people would have to know, John sends me clips, I don't listen to them. I just look at the titles to know, okay, maybe I don't need a whole series of clips here
Starting point is 00:51:25 because if there's something about Kay Rarif's in the news, I don't need a clip on her. It was a typo. And apparently she's a genal. And it was blurry. So, we start with the now. My vision was blurry. Do you drive? This is the one. This is not the analysis clips. Yeah, this is the kickoff. This is the now, this is not the analysis clips. Yeah, this is the kickoff. This is the now just the BBC straight up.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Wait, is this World Service? Yeah, BBC World Service. And now another series of clips from the BBC World Service. President Trump has announced a 25% tariff on all cars imported into the United States from the 2nd of April. He claimed the measure would spur growth in the US car industry and create jobs and investment. Our North America business correspondent Erin Delmore reports.
Starting point is 00:52:11 President Trump said the new tariffs would bring car and truck production back to the US and generate billions of dollars in revenue. Mr. Trump made clear that the new tariffs are permanent and not a negotiating tactic designed to extract concessions from America's trade partners. But determining which vehicles are made in America can be complicated, particularly when it comes to America's closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada. The new taxes will immediately hit millions of foreign-made cars sold in the US each year. The move is poised to send a shock
Starting point is 00:52:40 through the industry with potential for higher prices, lower supply, and lower production. Shares of the US's big three autom prices, lower supply, and lower production. Shares of the US's big three automakers fell in after hours trading. Hmm. Okay. Well, shaking things up. I don't know why the prices would fall because you think these guys, the US automakers would benefit but I guess the only car that's actually made here is Tesla.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. The rest of them are made from parts from everywhere. Well, but wait. Isn't there a carve out for parts? No, not yet. Yeah, I think you're wrong. Well, they've been talking about it. I listened to this morning, I was watching Outnumbered and they had Charles Payne on as the dude, because it's a bunch of women and one guy, and that's why it's called outnumbered. And he went on about it and they talked about the car parts carve out and it was like it was still unsettled. Well I'm just going to interrupt and then we'll get back to your BBC anal clips. This is France analysis. I know what it says. This production line in Japan is churning out Toyota
Starting point is 00:53:43 cars many of them destined for the US. In a week's time, they'll be subject to a punishing 25% tariff, prompting the government to plead for an exclusion. We have again strongly urged the US government to exclude Japan from the scope of these measures. But only if the car is made in America. Other top suppliers hit hard by the tax are Canada, Mexico, Germany, and South Korea. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney
Starting point is 00:54:13 called it a direct attack on the country's workers. We will defend our workers. We will defend our companies. We will defend our country. Currently, half the cars sold in the US are American made, and industry experts say the move could increase prices per car by thousands of dollars and impact jobs. President Donald Trump says it will revitalise American industry.
Starting point is 00:54:37 We're going to charge countries for doing business in our country and taking our jobs, taking our wealth. After a 25% duty on steel and aluminium, this is Trump's latest move to renege on a trade deal he struck in his first term with Mexico and Canada. The new tariff applies to cars and light trucks. Auto parts that comply with the 2019 deal will remain tariff free for now. There you go. Yeah, I don't think that's correct. Oh, it's France 24. How could you doubt the French?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah, I don't think they know what they're talking about. All right, okay. So let's go with the analysis clips. These should be fairly short. Here to make sense of that announcement is our North of America correspondent, Aaron Delmore. The clearest way through it is to think of it as a 25% tariff on all cars not made in the United States and no tariffs on cars made in the United States. He also made a mention that Americans would be able to deduct interest payments on their car loans from their taxes if their cars are made in America.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You know, to me, one of the big things that stood out is he said he's not budging. He said that these tariffs are permanent and that he's not putting this forward as a negotiating tactic to try to get concessions from America's trade partners in future tariff negotiations. He said this is permanent we are going to bring domestic production, domestic manufacturing of cars and trucks back to the United States. What about car parts coming into the US? Is there any clarification yet as whether they may face import duties? Because that would be significant, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Absolutely. Here's why it would be significant. Car parts can come in from foreign suppliers, but they also are made in Mexico and Canada as well and then cross borders into the United States into US production facilities for cars that look to be US made they look and purport to be American made cars But perhaps within the cars there are not American made parts Those are foreign made parts and so now the question Yes is will they be tariffed the best indication and reporting we have now is that the answer to that question is yes. It is.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yes. That appears to be the case. Well, there goes my Corinthian leather. Another boomer joke. I'm, I'm, I'm easing it. I'm easing into it. You're, you're, you're getting worse. I'm easing into it.. You're getting worse. I'm easing into it.
Starting point is 00:57:06 The old timers that listen to this show must get a kick out of us. Someone, hopefully somewhere, does. Well, the kids don't. You're going, what the fuck are these guys talking about? So here we go with clip two. This announcement, I mean we are used to lots of tariff announcement. This seems a pretty serious one because Donald Trump has clearly said he's not going to withdraw these tariffs. Absolutely. And it's a really interesting line in the sand.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I'm listening to Mark Carney there, you know, having spent a lot of time in Canada, you know, the Canadian auto sector is hugely reliant. This is, you know, hundreds of thousands of jobs, billions of dollars. So very significant but I think around the world now it's not going to affect Australia. We don't make any cars anymore, haven't for quite some time so it won't have an impact directly in that way. But you know these things have a tendency of having a big ripple effect right and across other sectors and you know there's steel still aluminium tariffs that will be coming on to Australia. Already there's shaking the chain on drugs and medicines. That's something
Starting point is 00:58:11 Australia provides a lot of medicines to the US and brings a lot in. We have a free medicines policy or program for lots of Australians who rely on the government to buy for no-cost or low-cost medicines. Ireland's also worried about it. So, but I mean I don't know can he really have a permanent tariff? I don't know. I don't know whether that's possible. I would imagine unless he intends to be the permanent president I wouldn't think there'd be permanent tariffs, but I don't know and I don't think we should be predicting too much at this point. Stephanie, it is a complicated issue and tariffs here because the global car industry operates in so many different parts of the world.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So you're sitting there in your office and you're like, oh yeah, I gotta do this. I gotta get that laugh extra kooky. We do work for you people. What was it? Shaking the chain. I like that. Shaking the chain.
Starting point is 00:59:10 This whole thing is because, this is a non-significant or a quite significant idea that he thinks he's going to do. You know, this, the global, you start to realize when you start hearing these analysis, especially the moaning and groaning that takes place from everyone, oh, the Australians, now they're worried about this and that, and all the Canadians think it's all about them. You realize that the globalist entanglements have been set up so well. It's massive.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It's massive. That it's like, wow, these guys, is Trump is not gonna pull this off I think he will oh I definitely think he will and I'll tell you why after your clips okay all right onward around 50% of cars sold in the US are imported it is the world's biggest importer of cars about 22% of those imports in 2024 came from Mexico one call Carlos Baker Pineda of course familiar voice on this program is Mexico's former vice minister for foreign for foreign trade currently a researcher at the Pan American University
Starting point is 01:00:14 in Mexico City. Hello Juan Carlos. You know there's a lot going on in the world and a lot of confusion about many things. You're in Mexico. I am. Yes. What do you make of this? It could have a huge impact on the car industry. I love this. You're in Mexico. Yes, yes. I'm in Mexico. Yes, absolutely. The consequences of this are not entirely clear right now, but as you say, the impact on this is very significant because cars represent the largest exports of Mexico to the United States. It also represents a significant sizeable contribution of the GDP, anywhere between 8 and 9 percent of Mexico's GDP somehow is connected to the automotive industry.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So the fact that these targets are announced, and the fact that President Trump seems to have no regard whatsoever for the USMCA and its rules, but clearly is very disturbing. Right now, today, the Minister of the Economy, Secretary Marcelo Ebrard, and his team are in Washington, and it has been reported that they will be having meetings tonight and tomorrow with the people of President Trump's cabinet, the Secretary of Commerce. And well, clearly something has to be worked out because if the tariffs are imposed, as the president suggests, well, the impact on Mexico is going to be significant and it's going to change the
Starting point is 01:01:37 mood, I would say, between Mexico and the United States right now and the relationship as it is, is going through some tense moments and this clearly is not going to help at all. Go on and on and so let's go to the last clip which is I think another, so we have the Mexicans complaining, the Australians complaining, I don't know why they're complaining, the Canadians complaining, the Europeans complaining, everyone's complaining. Because they believe he's serious and I think he is. Let us hear a couple of more voices now. Firstly, here's Glenn Stevens. He's executive director of Detroit based industry, auto industry group Mitch Auto. He told me these tariffs are bad news for the industry and customers. We don't see any positives in the short term.
Starting point is 01:02:23 We had anticipated this, the president had signaled this, but about half of the vehicles sold in the United States every year are imported, 7.68 million last year. So this is a significant shock to the system. We also have steel and aluminum tariffs, we have China tariffs, now reciprocal and now these tariffs. The cost of the vehicle, the input cost will go up. We expect anywhere from $3,000 to $10,000 depending on the transaction price of the vehicle, it will increase.
Starting point is 01:02:54 In the US, a vehicle already costs $49,000 to purchase new on average, so it's already at an all-time high. We're concerned about this. We have a lot of questions right now tonight that we're trying to sort through. What's the top one on your list that you're gonna try and answer? Which is the one you're struggling with
Starting point is 01:03:11 at the most at the moment? Is it gonna make sense? Yeah, the number one issue is, are vehicles from Canada and Mexico, because of the existing USMCA agreement, are they included in this? It appears that they are, but we don't have confirmation of that. And that is a big situation, particularly for the companies based in Michigan, Ford,
Starting point is 01:03:32 GM, and Stellantis. So just to give you an idea, and actually one of our producers just posted that in the in the troll room. The there's in the Netherlands. You have a something called BPM, which is a special, special tax for, for cars. And if you do the math, a, let me see a Ford Mustang, which costs $35,000, $40,000 in the Netherlands, $120,000 after the VAT, the BPM, the climate tax, all that stuff was put on. But BPM is just a made up number. It's like, oh, well, we got to tax you for that. So Trump is not wrong. No, I think he's correct. And, and, and when you look at,
Starting point is 01:04:32 what I'm saying is that I'm not complaining about his correctness or, or his righteousness about this. I'm complaining, not complaining, but I'm suggesting that the entanglements are so broad-based that it's going to be almost impossible to actually make any of this work. This is the hill he's going to die on. This has been his thing for 30, 40 years he's been talking about this. Yeah, forever. So now he has the opportunity and he means it and he's trying to brand it but he's not doing a very good job.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Well, I may give a lot of countries breaks, but it's reciprocal. But we might be even nicer than that. You know, we've been very nice to a lot of countries for a long time. But I call it Liberation Day. April 2nd is Liberation Day. But today as you know, we did something with respect to Venezuela, you heard about that, and that will be quite important. We'll be announcing some additional tariffs over the next few days, having to do with automobiles, cars, and having also to do a little bit with lumber
Starting point is 01:05:38 down the road, lumber and chips. Chips. We're gonna get all those chip companies coming back. They were already coming back without even doing it. So it's been very good. But we'll be announcing some others. But for the most part, April 2nd will be a big day. That'll be reciprocal day. And we'll be bringing some of the money back that's been taken from us. Let's be nice by using the word taken. I don't want to use a stronger word because these guys are professional politicians and
Starting point is 01:06:05 they don't like to hear those words. I refuse to use the word stolen from us. So it's Liberation Day, it's Reciprocal Day, it's I don't know what day it is. It's April 2nd. He needs to work on it. Well that's what you mean by he's not branding. No, no. I mean, Liberation Day, if you're going to do liberation day,
Starting point is 01:06:25 you need a media package. You need some memes out there on the internet of people with big F250s and Mustangs, you know, cruising around. Yeah, it could be coordinated better. Not to mention- Much better. There's really no, he's sticking with us, you know, running a million miles an hour
Starting point is 01:06:45 but not really coordinating anything in such a way that you have a big splash that goes from one thing to another. Yeah, so instead he has a very small announcement. Today we're delighted to report that Hyundai is announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in American manufacturing. In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand-new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce more than 2.7 million metric tons of steel a year, creating more than 1,400 jobs for American steelworkers.
Starting point is 01:07:17 And then there'll be major expansion after that. This will be Hyundai's first-ever steel mill in the United States — one of the largest companies in the world, by the way — supplying steel for its auto parts and auto plants in Alabama and Georgia, which will soon produce more than one million American made cars every single year. The cars are coming into this country at levels never seen before. Get ready. This investment is a clear demonstration that tariffs very strongly work and I hope
Starting point is 01:07:48 other things also but the tariffs are bringing them in at levels that have not been witnessed. So a million American cars. Well, I mean, everyone's going to buy an American car if you're going to buy a car or American-made car, I should say, that part will work, especially if you're allowed to deduct the interest on your car loan. Whoa. Now you're talking. But that's a Congress thing. That's not an executive order, is it? It's a tax thing. Yeah, which is Congress. The problem is with half the cars being imported until these reports came out, I didn't realize that half of our, in other words, our own
Starting point is 01:08:31 automotive industry can't even keep up with the Toyota and the BMW and all the people that ship cars into this country. So we, so half of them are imported. They'd have to double production of American cars, which then I can be able to do it. You can't just double production overnight. And I think what one thing is going to happen is the used car market is going to heat up again. Exactly. I'm like, I'm not driving my car.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'm keeping my miles, but I'll need a car. That's the problem. Yeah, you need a car. Do you have wind chimes in your studio now all of a sudden? Oh, this is these things in the back. It's funny. You know, I don't understand how that mic can pick this up. It's my ears.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Well, I don't think anyone else can. Anyway, ask the chat room. I'm going to ring these. We don't have a chat room. We got trolls. Trolls, do you hear the chimes? Now I'm ringing them loud. Yeah, well, you hear that for sure. Well, not necessarily.
Starting point is 01:09:27 That's on the backside of the mic. Everybody hears it. Everybody hears it. They all hear that? Yeah, they all hear it. Huh. Yes. That's disappointing. It must be reflective.
Starting point is 01:09:39 That could be it. Of course, one of the hottest car manufacturers right now is certainly not American. The 2020-24 revenue, meanwhile, stood at $97.7 billion. This year already looks like it could be an even better one for the Chinese EV maker. It unveiled a new ecosystem that allows EVs to charge for 400 kilometers in just five minutes and introduce advanced driver assistance technology in even its most basic models. You want to say something? I'd like to know. BYD, I'm impressed with.
Starting point is 01:10:24 But of course, they don't sell any, even one car in this country. So the market possibilities for them is pretty high. I think you have the same question I have about the charging. How does this work? Well, I looked it up. It will charge within five minutes with a, now they make it sound nice to say, a thousand kilowatt charger. That's a megawatt. You're going to put a megawatt charger in my house now?
Starting point is 01:10:51 No, it's not for, no, the idea, no, that's not the idea. That's what I read. No, the idea is that you have gas station like facilities that you drive to and you stick it just like a guy in a normal gas station the big advantage We don't have a guy don't keep gas here at the house I go to the gas station within five minutes I fill up a tank of gas The idea is that you should be able to do the same thing with an electric car as opposed to nowadays where you stop at one Of these charging stations you have to wait a a half an hour for the car to get even
Starting point is 01:11:25 a 300 mile, even a half charge. It takes an hour to two hours sometimes to get a full charge. No, I understand. So they want to make it so you don't have to charge at home. I understand, but are you going to get a megawatt at gas stations? How is that going to happen? One megawatt. That's a pretty big jolt. I mean, yeah, yes, you're absolutely right. But that means you need a whole bunch of infrastructure
Starting point is 01:11:55 to do what you just explained. The infrastructure is not there. You're right. They can't even do, in fact, Biden for the whole four years, if you recall, right at the get-go in 2020. He says, we're going to build 300,000 charging stations or some outrageous number. It was at least 50,000. I'm not sure what the number is now because I've forgotten. But he was going to build, and he built one. So BYD has a deal with Shell in Shenzhen and the airport has 258 public fast charging ports. I don't know if these are the... No, they're not the... No, this five minute thing is brand new.
Starting point is 01:12:36 There's no way that they're going to have that many online right away. It's going to take forever. But if it takes a megawatt, you're going to have to have some serious juice going in there. They say that, so this is near the airport, solar panels installed on the roof could generate about 300 kilowatt hours of renewable electricity electronically used to charge the vehicles. I'm skeptical of that too. So a kilowatt hour. Especially in China, around that airport.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I've been to China enough to know that there's no sun. Exactly. So I'm skeptical about this announcement. And to make, and to get that amount of power, you have to have these coal burning, you know, power stations making the smog worse. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm very skeptical about all that. Yeah, I am too.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I mean, I think they may have the technology, but I don't think they have the... Well, sure. Sure. I mean, I could make... But even by the way, I'm skeptical about the technology too. If I could get a megawatt of power, I'd be mining Bitcoin. Come on, man. I'm going to charge my car. I'll stay home and print money. That's a lot of power. One of the news girls, you'll recognize who it is.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I don't know if it's CBS or the NBC girl. I talked to Warren Buffett about the tariffs, and he had some interesting answers. How do you think tariffs will affect the economy? I mean, tariffs are actually, we've had a lot of experience with them. They're an act of war to some degree. How do you think tariffs will impact inflation? Over time there are attacks on goods. I mean, you know. What?
Starting point is 01:14:21 Is that Nora? I think it is Nora, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's a highly edited piece, but she's talking about inflation, he's talking about inflation, but he's talking about money printing inflation as far as I'm concerned. On goods, I mean, you know, the tooth fairy doesn't pay up. I mean, you always have to just, and then what? You always have to ask that question in economics.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Always say, and then what? So is there an answer for that when people say that inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up? When's the end in sight? No, prices will be higher 10 years from now and 20 years from now and 30 years from now. And what do you think about what's happening in Washington right now? That's because of money printing. Of course it'll be more expensive 10 years from now, 20 years from now.
Starting point is 01:15:06 It always has been. Yeah, we also used to buy our Toyota trucks for $59.99. I think it's Washington. It's technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington is Washington. The problem with politics is that it tends to have to make tiny compromises as you go along. There you go. So they got, they got him to say prices will go up, but I don't think he was in the same conversation and we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:15:39 I mean, it all comes down to what do you want to buy? You know, he's not taxing, uh, avocados. No tariffs on that. Not a car. Well, what's the last time you bought a car 26 years ago? I bought a car. Uh, I buy this last car used a course, of course, but about seven years ago, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:04 That's what I'm saying. It's like, Oh oh no one will buy cars anymore. We'll see. In general though the economy of certain states is pretty bad. Really bad in California. This was a shocking report, John. Shocking. Several businesses along the famed Sunset Strip have closed in recent months. Others are on the verge and there is a community effort underway to save one of them. KTLA's Annie Rose Ramos live in West Hollywood with more on that. Annie Rose, good morning.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Hey guys, good morning to you both. Yeah, we keep hearing about this happening over and over again. We counted a total of five businesses and restaurants that have announced they're closing just in the past two months. Okay, so she's on the Sunset Strip. It's a big story. An important restaurant is closing.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Which one is it? You've been up and down the Strip. You've been to Le Dome. It's not Le Dome, by the way. You've been to some of the cool places on Sunset Strip. Which one is closing? Probably some place I never heard of. No, you've heard of this one. On the Sunset Strip. I've been to this one many times. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Here on the Sunset Strip, including the restaurant you see behind me, beloved Le Petit Four, it has been around. Le Petit Four, Le Petit Four, that's where all the Russians in tracksuits hang out. I've never been there. You've never been to Le Petit Four? No. For over 40 years and now some community members coming together to make a last ditch effort in order to try and save it. Take a look here.
Starting point is 01:17:40 They are posting this GoFundMe page. With $6,000. Good luck keeping your restaurant going. Especially on that property. Yeah, but maybe the strip has just died. It probably has. Probably has. Last time I was down there, it wasn't that...
Starting point is 01:17:56 It didn't have the same vibrancy that it used to have. That's for sure. When I lived there, it didn't have that vibrancy. It was already horrible. Compared to like late 80s, early 90s, Oh man, when I lived there, it didn't have that vibrancy. It was already horrible. Compared to like late eighties, early nineties, when we go out to LA to film stuff. No, it's no good. Yeah. There's a depressing aspect to LA at the moment.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Like San Francisco, it's depressing because of all the homeless and the, just, and it's got nothing to do with the California economy. It has to do with the policies regarding the homeless encampments and the allowance and crime, a lot of crime. Well, but who lives in California? Just poor people and a bunch of rich people. I'm just guessing. Well, there's middle class in California. There's a lot of middle class in California. A lot of middle class. In the valley, in the porn industry.
Starting point is 01:18:50 That's not generalized. Okay. Why would we do that? You've got several series here, so I'm going to let you choose one. Let's see what we got. Because unlike you, when you have a series, I just step back and let you go. Yeah. Let's see what we got. Because, you know, unlike you, when you have a series, I just step back and let you go. Yeah, there's some of this. Let's do the order on...
Starting point is 01:19:10 This is a quickie. This is an order on elections that didn't get any play at all. Oh, I thought it was pretty big. Trump on the elections? I didn't think it... I didn't hear much about it. President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that aims to make sweeping changes to elections and voter registration, including a proof of citizenship
Starting point is 01:19:31 requirement. Legal experts are calling it an overreach of presidential authority and warn that the provisions could block tens of millions of eligible Americans from voting. Joining us now with more is NPR's Jude Joffey Block. Hi Jude. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Hello. Okay, so what exactly is in this? Once again, no time or expense spared for this program. Right, right, right. Well, there's a lot in here. And so it lays out a number of new requirements and says if states don't comply, they will not get federal funding. So one big change is this new proof of citizenship requirement to register to vote in federal elections. So you'd need to show a copy of a citizenship document, like a passport, to a local or state
Starting point is 01:20:14 official in order to register to vote, or whenever you update your registration, like if you move. Another change, the executive order aims to stop states from counting mail ballots that are postmarked by election day but arrive after. This is something that a lot of states allow. Wait, legally, can the president make all of these changes simply by executive order? Well, that's really the key question. So Trump is trying to assert that he as president has authority over elections and that's not
Starting point is 01:20:43 been the case. We have a decentralized system where states make a lot of their own election rules, but this order seeks to expand the president's power and test how far it can go. Yeah, I don't think he's going to get that through. I like it, but I don't think that's going to happen. I agree. I really don't think that's going to happen. I did learn that in Title 18 of the U.S. Code, that if you vote in a general election as a non-resident and non-citizen, I should say, and you're caught, you will not be prosecuted as long as you believed you were a citizen, which is very interesting. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I don't think that's in this report. No, I don't know when that snuck in, but that it's like, oh, okay. So you can do it if you get caught. Oh, well, no problem. I thought I was a citizen. Huh? What? We've already heard from voting rights advocates that lawsuits are going to challenge this.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And normally an overhaul like this would be something for Congress to take on. And in fact, Republicans have been backing a bill called the SAVE Act that includes a lot of the same provisions as this order. Oh man, that thing's been around for years, the SAVE Act. That's not new. It goes nowhere. Oh no. That bill likely faces an uphill battle in the Senate.
Starting point is 01:22:00 So instead, some critics are saying Trump is forcing through that legislation by executive fiat. Well, what has President Trump said about why he's pushing these changes? Well, he says it's necessary for election integrity. Here he is yesterday when he signed the order. We got to straighten out our election. This country is so sick because of the election, the fake elections and the bad elections. You know, of course, Trump touts the results of the last election, which he won, but it's
Starting point is 01:22:27 long been part of his brand to make false claims, false claims about voter fraud, most notably when he denied the results of the 2020 election. And in the lead up to this past election, he and his allies made baseless, baseless claims about the threat of non-citizens voting in large numbers, which we know from audits and studies that such cases are really rare, yet that's what they're targeting here. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm curious how our voting experts reacting to this order.
Starting point is 01:22:52 You know, I just had an idea. Exit strategy does require work, but we could get people to help us. We could just do NPR remixed. And it's just doing exactly what you do. All those those strange things they put in there, all of the the little NLP tricks, all the hyperforas, all that stuff could just be NPR remix. And it would be a popular stream. You know, put it to some music, it wouldn't get a couple of our end of show mixers to put a beat under it. Yeah, it would be. I'm sure NPR would take offense and we'd get a cease and desist for well for what? For you for you. Well you know I think there's an
Starting point is 01:23:37 argument that could be made that you could say it was for entertainment humor purposes. Yes, parody. Parody under, what's it called? I don't know, fair use. Fair use, yes. Parody under fair use. Totally appropriate. Yeah, well, until then, I'm doing these. Well, I spoke with UCLA law professor Rick Hassan and he brought up how very rare these cases of non-citizen voting are, but that a proof of citizenship requirement would have a big impact and could disenfranchise millions of voters. So you'd be using a very strict rule to prevent a very small amount of fraud. The intention seems likely to be to suppress the vote rather than to try to make our elections filled with greater integrity. Of course. And you know,
Starting point is 01:24:24 people are already asked on voter registration forms to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote and they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally. Okay. Say more. No, that's not true. If they believe they were citizens, then there's no problem. Yes, in fact, that should have been in the report.
Starting point is 01:24:44 In the report, it should have been right in there. But it wasn't. Incorrect. And you know, people are already asked on voter registration forms to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote, and they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally. Okay. Say more about how Rick Hassan told you if this order stands, millions of voters could
Starting point is 01:25:03 be disenfranchised. Like, how would that happen exactly? Right. Well, past studies have found that almost one in 10 Americans doesn't have a proof of citizenship document or doesn't have easy access to one. And this order is also a bit vague about even which documents would be accepted as proof of citizenship. It doesn't explicitly name birth certificates.
Starting point is 01:25:22 It does name passports, but only about half of Americans have those. They cost money and take a while to get. So this rule would likely upend voter registration drives as well and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote. This would really be a sea change. Did I just hear an iPhone go? Was that on the clip or was that you?
Starting point is 01:25:43 It wasn't me, I don't have an iPhone. The up-end voter registration drives as well and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote. This would really be a sea chain. I was going to say like, wait a minute, John has an iPhone. No. So annoying that NPR, they just never have anyone on from the other side. They are just, oh this is no good. Oh, this is bad. Oh, he's not gonna make it through the court. They never. PBS is worse. Never. They have one side that was brought up during the congressional hearings and I'm surprised you didn't have that clip where they asked this ma or woman,
Starting point is 01:26:20 you know, you realize that they challenged the reporters. You had 87 reporters. They're all registered Democrats. There's not one Republican that works in the newsroom. 87%, wasn't it? That was 80? No, it was the total number. Yeah. 87 to nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Thanks for saying you're surprised. You should email me with that. I'm surprised you didn't get that clip. I'm surprised you didn't get that clip. Because that was, I't get that clip because that was, I thought was a key element. Oh, it was surprise. Big surprise. No Republicans at NPR. I know.
Starting point is 01:26:56 And she was like, whoa, that's interesting. And she acted like she didn't know. That was the funny part about it. What? Whoa. What? G? What? Gambling? Gambling?
Starting point is 01:27:06 Oh, I can't believe that. She's a spook. I, okay, I want to, I have a couple of clips here. That means a series. Don't go to the end. Um, you used the word splash earlier. I can't remember. I did?
Starting point is 01:27:24 Yeah. You said make a splash or something. Well, I think it had to do with the, with Trump's approach with that. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Well, because this is a word that I've heard that we heard about a week ago and it's back and you could say splash or you could say splash.
Starting point is 01:27:40 For the Hague summit, what I hope coming out of the Hague Summit is that it will really be a splash. A splash, a big splash. This is the splash. This is Mark Rutte. He is the head of the NATO and this is the big Hague Summit, which he wants to be a splash. Projecting the collective NATO power and therefore also American power on the world stage. Yes, he's working for us still.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Of course, defending the Euro-Atlantic, but I would even say the world stage because it's not extending Article 5 to the inner Pacific, but working together as NATO also to make sure that we keep the inner Pacific safe and that means spending more, it means producing more. Wait, stop. What does NATO stand for? North American Treaty Organization. North Atlantic. North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Starting point is 01:28:32 What's that got to do with the Indo-Pacific? North Atlantic is a very specific area. It does not make a difference. It's the Atlantic Ocean, the northern part. You can make a splash in any ocean. So it does not matter where the splash is as long as it's a splash and it shows American power. And that means spending more, it means producing more.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Spending more on war stuff. It means a fair distribution between the US and other NATO allies. Yes, it's fair. We need you not fair. You not fair Europe. And it will be about the lethality, lethality of lethality. Yo, where we kill you with this stuff, man. The NATO kill you lethality. And it will be about the lethality, lethality of NATO
Starting point is 01:29:22 showing that yes, we will never be an offensive organization. We are defensive organization. We are defensive. We're not making any troubles. Tell that to the Libyans. We're not making trouble. But don't dare to explain to me why they attacked Libya. Why do you ask these questions every time he's saying that we're defensive?
Starting point is 01:29:43 He just shut up. Lethality, lethality of NATO showing that yes, we will never be an offensive every time he's saying that we're defensive. He just shut up. Lethality of nature, showing that yes, we will never be an offensive organization. We are a defensive organization, but don't dare to attack us. Don't you dare to attack us! Because you will not see the light of day again. And I hope that will be... This guy is the biggest warmonger in the universe.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Don't you dare attack us! The real outcome of the Hague Summit, a splash. Showing that we invigorated alliance, standing together. One for all, all for one. We are the three musketeers. One for all, all for one. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but. Don't, this is not, we're not doing this
Starting point is 01:30:27 because USA wants it. It's just not about USA. Except you don't want to cross USA. First of all, by understanding that we do not do this because the Americans want us to do it, but because we need to do it because of Russia. We don't do it because the Americans, the Americans. It's, remember, I will change my story at the end of this clip,
Starting point is 01:30:48 but it's not because Americans want it. And the threat. By the way, by spending more, you will also have a fair burden sharing with the US because the US rightly is irritated about the fact that in Europe, we have collected the peace dividend and I myself as prime minister was part of that and that was wrong. Luckily the Netherlands is now spending over 2%. Luckily. But collectively we have collected the
Starting point is 01:31:14 peace dividend. This was not and rightly the US is irritated. So by spending more because of the Russian threat the effect of that is also that you have a fairish burden sharing with the United States. But it's not because America wants this. Just so you know, it's not about that. And yes, there are a few countries not yet at 2%. I would love to say that since I came in on the 1st of October, things started to change. That was not true.
Starting point is 01:31:39 But there happened something on the 20th of January in the US and since then look what happened. It's amazing. It's not about America, what America wants or Trump who became president on January 20th, but it's amazing. The Belgians have been saying we want to get to 2% by the summer. Spain now is saying they want to get to 2% this summer. We know that Portugal, Italy, they all have these debates now and I I tell them that, well, now I am calling you to ask you to deliver the 2% by this summer so that collectively we can move considerably north of the 2% because we have to spend much, much more than 2%.
Starting point is 01:32:15 But this is not about America. This is not because America wants it. But now I'm calling you, but you might get a very patient man from Washington on the line if you don't listen to me. And I would love to listen to those phone calls, but let's hope they're not necessary. And at this moment, I must say that all these non-two percenters are having genuine debates to move to the two percent before summer. So all the non-two percenters, it's not about America, but if you don't step up, you might get a
Starting point is 01:32:47 call from Washington and you don't want to get that call. That's exactly what he said. That's exactly what he said. And so now, now we have to make sure that we all understand that this is long term. This is not just the Ukraine issue. We are never ever. I don't care what kind of peace deal is made. It's never going to end.
Starting point is 01:33:12 It's the result of 12 hours of behind closed doors talks. I'm sorry. Wrong one. Here it is. This is the one. Well, there will be no normalization of relations with Russia when the war is over. That will not happen. That will take decades because there is a total lack of confidence. The threat is still there. As I said in my speech, even if the war comes to a conclusion, the Russian threat is still there.
Starting point is 01:33:37 They are building a war economy. They are spending so much money on defense. It's a war economy. They are producing in three months in ammunition, but the whole of the alliance is producing in a year. We are ramping up our ammunition production. Luckily, we have to. This is bullcrap.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Ramping it up. So there's no way that we can normalize relations with Russia after the war is over. No. We hope in many decades from now and post-Putin that there might be some but I mean I'm not optimistic. Post-Putin this is the most outrageous thing you can say. Well even if we have a total truce there in Ukraine nothing's going to normalize with Russia until no post-Putin post-Putin postPutin. And guess what Zelensky said. Ukrainian president Zelensky has claimed that his Russian counterpart Putin
Starting point is 01:34:31 will die soon. The remarks came amid widespread speculation about the Russian president's health. Russia has strongly rejected all speculations and maintained the Russian leader is fully fit. The Ukrainian leader made the bold claim while speaking to French journalists in a televised interview after meeting French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris. Zelensky said, Putin hopes to remain in power until his death
Starting point is 01:34:57 and his ambitions are not limited to Ukraine. He added that the Russian leader's death would bring an end to the war between the two nations there have been continued speculations over Putin's deteriorating health videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making Movement he got puffy face and make it He's gonna die. He's got puffy face videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making jerky movements. Some videos also showed Putin coughing continuously. Just last week, he suggested that Putin suffered a mini stroke with video showing his legs shaking
Starting point is 01:35:36 uncontrollably. This was during a conference and interview and other times. So and other things. So, kind of a dipshit report was that. Well, it seemed. And he has restless leg syndrome, I guess. So he said it in Ukrainian and all the clips. France 24, Frantz von Katra,
Starting point is 01:35:58 does not have any report of this, even though he said it in France. So I found that to be somewhat odd. But all the reports had, the mix was no good. Zelensky speaking in Ukrainian and the English translation is equally loud is very hard to understand. But he says, that's what he says, oh, Putin's going to die soon anyway. And then it will all end, which is in my mind a veiled threat. Oh, he's gonna die. Don't worry And if he dies no matter how he dies, then it's all gonna be over
Starting point is 01:36:31 How does that work? Well, because it's the same thing. That's why they wanted regime change That's why the CIA said hey if you're living in Russia and you want to become a spook. Let us know. Here's our here's our email address You want to become a spook? Let us know. Here's our email address. Yeah, they've always, it's only a Putin. You never hear the Russian, the Russian citizens are no good. Never hear that.
Starting point is 01:36:53 It's only Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin. The only baddie they have is Putin. And now the unthinkable has happened. We seem to be making headway with a peace deal. Oh no. It's the result of 12 hours of behind closed doors talks in a series of meetings over three days in Riyadh. Two statements from the White House outlining separate agreements with Ukraine
Starting point is 01:37:20 and Russia to ensure safe navigation in the Black Sea and to implement a ban on attacks by the two countries on each other's energy facilities. Both sides agreed that third parties could oversee the truce. Separately, the United States also agreed that it would help restore Russia's access to the world market for agricultural and fertilizer exports, an incentive to Moscow blasted by Vladimir Zelensky. We believe that this is a weakening of the position and a weakening of sanctions in our opinion. We do not yet know the details of this item and we were not present at this meeting, but
Starting point is 01:37:55 this was not on our agenda. Nonetheless, Kyiv said it would uphold its end of the agreement, or call in for more talks to settle the details. The Kremlin, meanwhile, declared that the agreement could only come into force after the lifting of restrictions on its agricultural exports. Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow didn't trust the Ukrainian president to uphold a ceasefire. We need clear guarantees.
Starting point is 01:38:19 These guarantees can only be the result of an order by Washington to Zelensky. The limited truce on energy and sea came about after Vladimir Putin responded to the originally proposed full 30-day ceasefire with a long list of conditions. The White House said Tuesday it would continue facilitating talks on both sides in a bid towards achieving a sustainable peace. Not quite the end the war in 24 hours that we were promised. I'm sorry, that was sarcastic. It was being sarcastic. So they're starting very, very slowly.
Starting point is 01:38:54 We need to make peace profitable again. I don't know how to do it. Let's bring these clips in. These are Trump versus the EU on NPR. As we've reported before on this show, US administrations at least as far back as George W. Bush's have been pushing European nations to increase their defense spending. But throughout, the US has remained committed to the principle of NATO's Article 5, which says that an attack against one ally is considered as an attack against all allies.
Starting point is 01:39:24 That commitment appears to have ended with President Trump. I think it's common sense, right? If they don't pay, I'm not going to defend them. No, I'm not going to defend them. I get it. It's common sense. You don't pay. We don't defend you.
Starting point is 01:39:39 NATO schmato. It's no good. Yeah, they go on with this one. Now, for the record, Article 5 of NATO has only ever been invoked once. And it was by the United States. Bronislav Slanchev teaches military and war studies at the University of California, San Diego. When Article 5 was invoked after 9-11, the Europeans responded.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Canadians, they went and they died. The British went and they died. Everybody responded. Wait a minute. Didn't the French say that they didn't like it? Didn't we have freedom fries for that whole reason? It was something... what was the freedom fries derived from? It had something to do with it. Yeah, I thought the French were like, no, we're not going to do that. I'll look it up. That includes the French, by the way, who supported the US by sending troops to Afghanistan,
Starting point is 01:40:27 89 of whom died and more than 700 of whom were wounded. The Iraq war. Yeah. Public scorn for these sacrifices is just one barb on the arrowhead that has pierced the heart of the European-American relationship and shredded trust between them. And it's galvanized European governments to make themselves independent of the U.S. when it comes to their defense. But Fenella McGurdy says Europe was already ramping up its defense spending long before
Starting point is 01:40:53 Trump came into office. Fenella is a senior fellow for defense economics at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. In 2024, we saw record defense spending growth already, 11.7% in real terms. And that was itself an increase, so an acceleration from the level of growth we saw in 2023, which reached 5.2%. And that was an acceleration from the growth the year before. The EU plan announced last week will likely break new records. It advocates a massive ramp-up of defense industrial production capacity and it unlocks a combined 866 billion dollars in military spending over four years. That's a bite what the
Starting point is 01:41:34 US spends in a single year on defense so Branislav says it's not even close to a conversion to a war economy but it could still be good medicine for Europe. economy, but it could still be good medicine for Europe. You know, there's a funny phenomenon I've noticed. It goes basically like this. Well, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, but we're going to do that anyway. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, we're going to do that anyway, so it's not important. This is the same phenomenon you see with the NPR thing. And there was other, there's other examples I've had on the show. They say, well, that's only, it's only 1%. Doesn't really, you know, oh, they're taking all our money away, but it was only 1%. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:14 It's only 1%. But still, um, or, or the, the park services like the other government is making a great investment. The $10 billion on national parks generates $70 billion. What do you need the 10 for? Um, if I found this on and on this, this idea you complain about something but then back it off and say, well, it's not important. Just doesn't make any sense. Now, further on this, by the way, this goes on forever.
Starting point is 01:42:42 The third clip is deep into the conversation near the end. I just thought I'd drop that in. Everything is changing right now. This current war, things have evolved dramatically. Initially, for instance, everybody was talking artillery and tanks. That was a big thing. Then the tanks turned out not to be super effective.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Now everything is drones and the missiles, right? And everything then is. Why is he laughing about that? Is it because they're so cheap? It's like drones. Now everything is drones and the missiles, right? And why is that funny? That is an interesting, I didn't notice this, but you're right.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Why is it funny? It's a laugh tell, but why? Drones, I don't know. Drones, missiles. Everything is drones and the missiles, right? And everything then is related to how you can keep electronic warfare from the interference. Do you have eyes in the sky? So the satellites. So these are the kind of capabilities we should not be building to fight.
Starting point is 01:43:41 In other words, the whole thing is a farce. I think that's why he's laughing. Wars become a farce. It's like a video game. We just push this, we just push that, we got eye in the sky, we got drones, we got missiles. It's not really like fighting in the trenches anymore. The last three wars we should be building to fight the next one. Europe can do all sorts of things to move quickly, or at least more quickly than it usually does. It can convert old factories to make arms and reconfigure existing ones to become dual-use civilian and military production hubs. It can develop supply relationships with other arms providers like South Korea or Israel.
Starting point is 01:44:18 But whatever it does, it'll take time, Fonella says. And because of that, the US will likely remain part of the European defense equation for the foreseeable future. It takes decades for a lot of these programs. So I think that there's some level of dependence will always be there, certainly in things like heavy lift, transport and things like that, because those capabilities do take time to develop. And I think Europe could get there, but not in perhaps in the timeframe it needs.
Starting point is 01:44:45 So there's always going to be that some level of reliance on the US and hopefully some partnerships going forward, which ultimately is good for US defense industry as well. Yeah. Eric Schmidt is a smart guy, man. I remember we played clip of him all about drones, drones is the new warfare. This is where it's going. And there it is. There it is. It's all cheap technology to blow people up.
Starting point is 01:45:15 By the way, food has been, uh, renaming food in time of war is not new. So freedom fries, freedom fries was indeed, uh indeed changed the name of French Fries in 2003, France's opposition to invading Iraq, which in hindsight, of course, they were correct. Yeah. So, we punished them. Yeah, we're going to show you Frenchies. World War I, Sauerkraut was renamed in America to Liberty Cabbage. And frankfurters and hot dogs were changed to Liberty Dog.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Liberty Dog. We need an anti-Russian kind of thing. But the thing is Russia... You don't need any Russian foods. You're not a Russian borscht. Well vodka. We could change vodka. Vodka? You could change vodka.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Vodka? You could change that to... Freedom juice. Freedom juice. Freedom juice. I'm writing it down. Freedom juice. What else? Liberty sap. I mean there's all kinds of... Liberty sap. Hey man, hit me with some Liberty sap. Neat. Okay. Nice. Oh man. The people are crazy.
Starting point is 01:46:33 The world has gone nuts. It's gone nuts. I tell you. The world has gone nuts. Well, I do have a couple of, I get that these are clips I want to get out of the way. This is the DEI DOA clips. There's only two of them. Okay. All right. President Trump has called for an end to- Oh, you got to warn me-
Starting point is 01:46:54 It's your buddy. You got to warn me about that kind of stuff. You can't just launch into shush. Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. President Trump has called for an end to what he calls illegal diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. So, he has revoked a 1965 executive order that has guided generations of federal contractors
Starting point is 01:47:19 in how to comply with non-discrimination laws. As NPR's Andrea Shue reports, that's leaving federal contractors who employ one in five workers in the US scrambling. The end of Lyndon B. Johnson's executive order 11246 has kept Matt Camardella busy. His whole practice at the law firm Jackson Lewis is helping companies that do business with the government comply with that order and with other federal laws. Since Trump's return, he's been fielding questions nonstop. This is pretty much all I've been doing for the last six weeks. The 1965 executive order required most federal contractors to take steps to identify and
Starting point is 01:47:59 address barriers to employment for anyone but especially women and people of color. Kamaradella says his clients took those responsibilities seriously. Every year, they'd analyze their hiring and pay practices to try to figure out, for example, if women were getting paid less than men. They'd plan out how to recruit a diverse workforce so that their hires reflected the pool of available workers around them. There was real risk in not doing this properly or at all for that matter. But now things have gotten complicated.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Not only has Trump revoked Johnson's executive order and halted its enforcement, the president has also issued his own executive order requiring contractors to certify that they're not engaging in illegal DEI. Yeah, well, you know, I didn't realize this went back to Lyndon Johnson. No, I didn't know that either, but it doesn't surprise me, strangely enough. Um, but it really, I mean, the thing that people forget about DEI is it was a part of ESG. And the reason why companies all got on board with it is because they had a score and it
Starting point is 01:49:13 was, I think it was the BlackRock guys, didn't they come up with some board and this board to determine it? Larry Fink. Yes, the Fink. Yes, the Finkelmeister. And they had a score system and depending on your environmental, social and governance score, you became less or more investable by pension funds mainly. That's why everyone got it. It was a real, real evil thing they did. Yeah, they pulled the plug on it finally. Oh, yes, they did. Yeah, they pulled the plug on it finally. Oh, yes they did.
Starting point is 01:49:43 A court has blocked- Many because the investments were bad. High scoring ESG guys weren't good company. Lose your pants. A court has blocked that part of Trump's order for now. Still, Cameradella says the problem is- Nobody really understands what illegal DEI means. He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law has changed. In fact, he believes there's
Starting point is 01:50:06 nothing wrong with a company carrying on with what it had been doing, looking at its pay practices or its hiring or its outreach to ensure it's complying with the law. However, there may be a perception that somehow that smacks of illegal Dei. I'm very concerned. Jenny Yang headed the Labor Department office that enforced the 1965 executive order under President Biden. That office investigated employers in all kinds of industries, tech, manufacturing, construction.
Starting point is 01:50:36 In 2020, Princeton University agreed to pay more than a million dollars in back wages and salary adjustments to about 100 female professors after the government found pay disparities. The university denied it had discriminated against women, but agreed to look more closely at its pay practices. Jenny Yang says the Office of Federal Contractor Compliance Programs, or OFCCP, can claim many successes. So in the last decade, OFCCP recovered, for example, over a hundred million dollars for women who were victims of discrimination. Now under Trump, that office is expected to be largely dismantled since its primary task
Starting point is 01:51:12 is gone. The Labor Department has not confirmed when that's going to happen. Trump says ending illegal discrimination will allow people to compete based on merit? Speaking of DEI, the Canadian Transportation Board released the data from the black box of the, was it the Delta flight? The one that flipped over? The one that flipped over. And so they have not yet released the cockpit voice recorder, which should be which would be important to hear. So just on the pilots, so indeed the the first officer, the female, the co-pilot was a she had just about the, I mean she graduated from the Wright Academy and it's all within the rules, then you don't need 1500 hours, but a thousand hours. So she racked up another almost 500.
Starting point is 01:52:08 She'd flown 56 hours that week and she was piloting, which is very normal, particularly when you note that the, the captain, the, the pilot, the, the one actually in control of the entire flight, not only a very high amount of hours, but a trainer on simulators and real world. So that is exactly the scenario you want. You want pilots to be flying and learn how to fly and learn all kinds of scenarios when you have an instructor there next to her in this case.
Starting point is 01:52:41 There was nothing wrong with the aircraft, but there were wind gusts and this was a very hard landing. The landing gear is rated to a drop onto the tarmac with a sink rate, I think 760 feet per minute. They headed it over a thousand. So what happened was, as I said, the full, and it's the full weight came down on the right rear landing gear, it snapped off and that's why the wing hit the ground and then they were very fortunate how that all ended up. So it's not necessarily a DEI issue. Now there's female pilots out there who yell at me when I say this.
Starting point is 01:53:22 This could have happened to any pilot, but really the male pilot in command was in charge. He should have had his hands on the yoke. He should have been following through the whole time. So we'll see exactly what was said. But I think this could have happened to anybody, but it wasn't good. It was clearly human error. And that's your update from the air. BBC World Service aviation update. Speaking of illegal DEI, there's another term that popped up
Starting point is 01:53:57 in regards to the GLP-1 or as we say, I went to my haircut, what is it? Glut, what's the name of the, the, the compound? Gluta. Glutamine, glutamine, glutamine. It's not, no, it's not glutamine. Glutatide. Glut, glut, glut, glut, glutie, tutie. Glutie, tutie.
Starting point is 01:54:24 No, she pronounced it in a French way and it sounded kind of good. Oh, semiglutidase. Semiglutidase. Because now every single hair salon hands out little flyers, little cards for the injection nurse which we learned just a few weeks ago. And you get your Botox, you get your lip fillers, and you get your GLP-1, your semi-glutades. Kind of a place that you're going to.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Every place has that now, by the way. No, they don't. Yes, yes, all. You're going to some sort of a screwball place, some sort of a place with the upper crust of Dallas or whatever. Who would you call it? Austin. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:08 So first of all, it's a women's hair salon, mainly. Well, that would make sense. Although the former New York banker also goes there. I've been going to her for 15 years. So when we left Austin, I was not going to give up on my hair relationship. But it's good because she is definitely um, libtard adjacent, but she has no problem with my views. And we always have really nice conversation and she always, because she has no one to talk to about how crazy people, no one, her life, not her partner, nobody. She can't, she can't
Starting point is 01:55:41 just say- Is a lesbian? No, no, she's not a lesbian. She's a deadhead though. She goes to Vegas to sit in the Sphere three nights in a row. She loves John Mayer. But she has no one in her life- How old is this woman? She is 47, I think. 47.
Starting point is 01:56:02 47. Yes. What does that have to do with anything? I just want to know who would go to Vegas and sit in this fear for three days unless they were a young stoner. Thousands and thousands of people. Young stoners. Yes. And so she, and Vegas is now legal to be stoned everywhere. Walk around, the whole place smells like weed. You can drink though on the street. Yes. You can drink though on the street. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:25 You can smoke weed on the street too. But now the hotels, the casinos, everything smells of weed. Anyway, it's horrible. It's nasty. To get to the point of the story. So she can't just say, oh, I enjoyed watching Trump on Rogan. She can't say that to anybody in her world in Austin. And she says- Despite the fact that Rogan is in Austin is a local.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Yeah, no, that is not done. And she said that she had a client the other day and she would, you know, and these are just, you know, yeah, maybe upper crust, I'm not sure, but Austin, white Austin women. And the topic of Tesla came up and Elon, she's like, well, you know, and her customer said, you know, he's a Nazi, right? And my girl was like, no, he is a, so these people, these are educated people, actually believe he is a Nazi. Like a literal Nazi. A literal, not just like a name you call someone.
Starting point is 01:57:31 No, he's a Nazi. He is an actual Nazi. Exactly. Anyway, back to the… It was a fun trip. It's worth the drive, trust me. Back to this illegal term when it comes to the semi-glutides. It was a fun trip. It's worth the drive, trust me. Back to this illegal term when it comes to the semi-glutides.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Listen to this. A new report reveals illegal ingredients in knockoff weight loss drugs that are flooding into the United States. Shabir Imbur-Shaftar is the executive director of the Partnership for Safe Medicines and the co-author of this new report. He's joining me now live. Hello to you. So illegal ingredients. Now when you hear that, what is the first thing you think? Apparently nothing. You walked away. You walked away during my report. I can hear it.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Are you peeing? You're just like, oh. I always forget that I have speakers. Do you have something else to do? Yeah, the phone was ringing off the hook. Well, we've been doing this show for over 17 years. Take it off the hook already. And I listened to the clip and the clip was going on and on. And I said, well, this clip is going to go on long enough
Starting point is 01:58:44 that I can walk over to the phone and take it off the hook. And you can hear it beeping back there. And then you come on with a question out of the blue. Oh no, I thought we were doing a show, but oh no, no. Okay, did you understand the question? Would you like me to restart the clip and do the question again and we can end it out? No, I heard the clip, I could hear the clip.
Starting point is 01:59:03 The question was vague. Well, I'll play the clip again and we can. I heard the clip, I could hear the clip. The question was vague. I'll play the clip again because you. It was about, no, it was about what ingredients. No. They're illegal. Yeah. You said what ingredients were illegal? No, I say when someone says an ingredient is illegal,
Starting point is 01:59:19 what is the, this is a news report. What do you think that means? And that what you just said is different than what I just said that you contradicted said I didn't know what you were talking about. Answer the question. Go. What do I think that... Mark Levin. And so, go. What do I think it means? It means that something's toxic. Yes, that's my point. Thank you for answering the question correctly. You go on to our second round. Of this new report, he's joining me now live. Hello to you. Hello, and thank you for covering this critical safety information.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Clearly a PR guy. He's not a doctor. He's a PR dude. Of course, you know, let's start with what you found and what your report reveals when it comes to these illegal weight loss drugs that are coming into the country. Now all of a sudden, the whole thing is illegal. So in our report, we studied shipments of semaglutide and trisepatide, the active ingredients in these very popular weight loss medications that were coming into the country, and found that there were shipments that were declared as being made in factories that the FDA
Starting point is 02:00:27 did not even know of, were not registered with the FDA and certainly never inspected. And some of them were marked as for compounding which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety. So it's not that they were toxic ingredients, they came from labs that the FDA had never heard of. So this is a PR move because it's just semaglutide which is a non patentable peptide but oh they came from they came from labs the FDA never it's illegal it's illegal. Okay so are these illegal ingredients getting into the-
Starting point is 02:01:05 Oh boy, she really punched that one up. Yeah, she punched it up, didn't she? I like that. ...which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety. Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal- It was in her script. I think it was italicized in her script. Like, and really punch this one up because this is this Guy's paying to be on okay. So are these illegal? Ingredients getting into the legal supply of these drugs if that makes sense it does make sense
Starting point is 02:01:35 We don't actually know enough because FDA does not publish where the shipments went We only know that there were nearly 200 shipments that came in That were made in places that could never have been safe, even if they'd been known to the FDA. One was the JW Marriott. There was another one at a health fitness club and another one at a high school in Canada. And none of those could possibly even believably be legal and legitimate or safe facilities. And then he adds safe, legal or legitimate or safe. So the message is get your brand name drugs, everybody get them now because all of your Congress people have been paid off by him.
Starting point is 02:02:11 According to RFK Jr. Today, over 100 members of Congress support a bill to fund OZMPIC with Medicare at $1,500 a month. Most of these members have taken money from the manufacturer of that product, a European company called Novonortis. As everyone knows, once a drug is approved for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid. And there is a push to recommend Ozempic for Americans as young as six over a condition, obesity, that is completely preventable and barely even existed 100 years ago. Since 74% of Americans are obese, the cost of all of
Starting point is 02:02:54 them if they take their Ozempic prescription will be $3 trillion a year. This is a drug that has made Novo Nordis the biggest company in Europe. It's a Danish company, but the Danish government does not recommend it. It recommends a change in diet to treat obesity and exercise. Virtually Novo Nordis' entire value is based upon its projections of what Ozempic is going to sell to Americans. For half the price we could purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture, organic food for every American, three meals a day and membership for every obese American. Why are members of Congress doing the bidding of this Danish company instead of standing up for American farmers and children? Because Novo Nordis is one of the largest funders
Starting point is 02:03:45 of medical research, the media and politicians and the medical schools all go wrong with them. I like the calculation. I think we should give away organic food, three meals a day to everybody and a gym membership. I'm all for that. Put it on Medicare. Here's my Medicare card.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Give me my beef. Talk is cheap, Bobby. Get on the stick already. This, you know, I think there was... Yeah, I actually did. I'm with you on this. Talk is cheap. Get on the stick. The main thing is let's get these advertisers off the TV for starters, which he's been threatening to do now. He came up in the conversation just recently, but there's still no action. Um, media of course won't be too happy about it. Why not?
Starting point is 02:04:32 That's where half their income comes from. Oh the media, I thought you said Mimi. I'm like, why would Mimi be upset with that? I have screaming Mimi's in my brain ever since you said it. Screaming Mimi is aee is a phrase. Yes, I'd never heard it. I've learned something. There's been a rumor going around and people like, I think, Zero Hedge even published it.
Starting point is 02:04:52 No, Unusual Whale. So there you go. There's a rumor that he's going to do it. He's going to do it. He's going to do it. He's going to do it. He's going to do it. He's going to ban Big Pharma advertising.
Starting point is 02:05:05 But I think that started with a parody account on X, which a lot of people believe me. Well, he promised he's going to do it. Was it a true promise? It's one of the three. But let me just, okay, I'll say one. What was it? Advertising. Let's listen to it again.
Starting point is 02:05:33 I'm not intimidated by the agencies. I know how they work and I know how to change them. And most of those changes you do not need Congress for. The president, President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself. And President Biden has the power to do it himself. And I'll give you an example. With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct to consumer ads on television. That's one of the big problems.
Starting point is 02:06:00 That's why one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the big problems. That's one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news. 75% of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer, another pharmaceutical company. And those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate the official narratives. And I have another clip here where he talked about it on Rogan.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Well, you know, ambitions have completely subsumed the regulatory function of those agencies and that has to end. You know, one of the things that we need to do to is to get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on television. There's only two countries in the world that allow it. One is New Zealand, the other is our country. Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it. And it not only has compromised public health, we now take largely because of that advertising, we take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans take and drugs
Starting point is 02:07:06 are the number three killer in our country. Pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer and heart attacks. They're not making us healthier. We have, we spend more on healthcare, 4.3 trillion in a country in the world in terms of our health outcomes. All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is not making a safe, safe. And you know, we changed the rule in 1997. Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you couldn't advertise on TV. We changed those rules and FDA allowed the pharmaceutical companies to advertise and they not only now have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're sick you need this
Starting point is 02:07:50 you need that but also they are able to dictate content on television so they can dictate content on the you know on the local and. And on YouTube. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Okay, well get to it, Bobby. Yeah, we're waiting. Yeah, because then we can finally get some big pharma ads on the podcast. Oh, John, I just got my ozempic. I'm feeling great. I'm down 8,000 pounds.
Starting point is 02:08:22 I heard a drug advertise on the radio the other day, like Restora or something. They have some more recent ones. I would have got to start recording some of these because they're pushing a lot of drugs onto the TV that I've never heard of. They're all new and they got the worst side effects. And the worst names. The names are really bad and the side effects are just off the wild. Let me think what this was called. It restores your muscle mass when you're on GLP-1 drugs. Wow. It's called steroids. No, no, no, no. It's, what was it called? I think it was called, it was something like Restora. Do you like being thin but your, but your
Starting point is 02:09:16 legs are breaking? We've got Restora. Oh man, it's so bad and that, that was kind of my point when I saw the card. You know, it's like, yeah, get your Botox, get your lip fillers. So they gave you a, okay, this is like a Shaggy Dog story now. I should have taken it with me. We're back at, you didn't take the card with you?
Starting point is 02:09:37 No. It's got a cute woman. Oh wait a minute, you go on and on about how great it is to go to Austin, it's always worth the price of admission, you give me grief for just even suggesting anything, and then you leave the card. I know. I feel very bad about that.
Starting point is 02:09:51 You should. Inject, here, maybe I can find her. Injection Nurse Austin. This, but this, so they put it- So there's an injection nurse at your hairdresser. Well, she comes in, and here, 63 nurse injector jobs available in Austin Texas. This is wow 29 to 56 dollars an hour injection nurse jobs in
Starting point is 02:10:14 Austin. No hiring! Wow it's called an aesthetic nurse. So they come in in Botox show or give you some GLP-1 in the gut. Yep. Yep. Well, that's the upsell. What else can they give you? Shoot you up with steroids? Or can they do anything else that's worthwhile? Well, I think that's the upsell is the, here, the nurse, the Austin nurse is an, this is the Austin nurse, concierge injection specialist. It's concierge.
Starting point is 02:10:43 Concierge. I love that. The Austin nurse is an experienced injection specialist committed to providing excellence in concierge injection administration and training. We provide help with fertility medications, anticoagulants, semaglutides like ozempic, blood glucose and insulin injectors and more! Yeah, so she'll come to your house. She's got a blog, nice. Yeah, but this is the thing. This is what people are doing.
Starting point is 02:11:18 You've heard of Botox parties, certainly. No. Yeah, women actually talk in MLs. How many MLs did you get? As in milliliters? Yeah, every milliliter. How many MLs? Oh, I got 10 MLs. What do you charge per ML? Oh, it's only $79 per ML. It's sad. All women are fake. Not a single one is un-botoxed. I'm just guessing.
Starting point is 02:11:50 I think there's plenty of un-botoxed gals out there. Yeah, what do you think about Pam Bondage? Oh, she's definitely got botox in the forehead. You ever see her raise her eyebrows? Nope. Ever? Nope. Even when she said top guy, the eyebrows did not move. The top guy.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Yeah, top guy. Yeah, with that I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in shaking the chain. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, the legendary Mr. John C. DeMora! Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Alan Curry. The warship secrets the graphene, the air substance, the water, the d room, we have your first ticket. You may not make another four years, John. Only $18.90 today.
Starting point is 02:12:40 That's average to me. Your numbers are off because ever since you started giving me crap about it, I started tracking it. Yeah, and 18 is the classic. No. 24 on Sunday. No, the last 100 show average is 1904. Yeah, well that's not the number I've ever heard.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Yeah, but I'm looking at the numbers, baby. I got the numbers. Yeah, you got numbers, but they're not the numbers you've been reading for the last 10 years. Yes. When you do the numbers, you can go back and listen to the past shows. It's 1600, 1700, 1800, 1800, 1800. The number of times you said 1900 for a Thursday show is so low. It's like maybe once every few months, but somehow it's the average.
Starting point is 02:13:27 I call bogus. You can call whatever you want. Bogus. Speaking of old shows, I have a throwback. You want to do a special bonus clip? Sure. And this is well, I have to play this is two clips, I have to play the setup clip first. And the setup clip is something that we all probably heard about. A year from now 23andMe will be
Starting point is 02:14:00 a year from now 23andMe will be growing and thriving. Five years from now 23andMe will be growing and thriving. Five years from now 23andMe will be... Will transform healthcare. That was Anne Wojcicki, CEO of the genetic testing company 23andMe. She told us that back in November and now there's word that Anne has resigned and 23andMe has filed for bankruptcy protection. Nancy Chin is here with what this means for customers. Nancy, when I woke up to this news this morning, I was so sad and disappointed here
Starting point is 02:14:25 because I know how hard Ann worked and I know how much she loves this company. And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time. So big surprising news for many, but the DNA. No one loved the company. For a long time. I love 23Me. I love this company. Yeah, I use the services all the time I love this company And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time so big long Testing company 23 and me has been facing serious financial challenges for months now last fall it announced major corporate Restructuring and that's when concerns of what could happen to users data started surfacing. On Friday the Attorney General of California where 23 and me is headquarter urged customers to request their information be purged. He says they should consider invoking their rights and directing the company to
Starting point is 02:15:18 delete their data and destroy samples of their genetic material. He said if 23 and me were involved in a bankruptcy, merger or sale, personal data may also be sold or transferred. Oh, say it ain't so. Really? Episode 599 of the best podcast in the universe, September 29th, 2013 is when we gave our first of many warnings about this. Here's what I want you to be cognizant of. When you sign up for 23andMe and you get on your little social network and sharing your little genetic defects, be wary as to who else has that information.
Starting point is 02:15:57 And at some point in the future, Bill Gates might be going, well, we really don't want to do that. Is that you? Yes, that's me. What a muddy mic dangerous well it was to be fair it was 12 years ago you know I didn't have the great mic that we soon will be selling to everybody walked right into that one pal I did why don't you just throw here let me get a couple more softballs here to toss you how How about a book? How about a book? Or just a website, since we're doing a donation segment. Dvorak.org slash NA is not where you want to go.
Starting point is 02:16:34 You want to go to- You can go there. It's got stuff you can click on. It's got outdated links. It's got the PayPal links don't work anymore. Come on. I'm fixing that site tomorrow. If you don't work anymore. Come on. Okay, I'm fixing that site tomorrow. If you don't fix it...
Starting point is 02:16:49 Daddy Thomas. Yeah, there you go. I will stick my finger in the holes. If it's not fixed, I'm not doing a show. That's it. I'm done. I'm boycotting the show if you don't fix the website. Thank you trolls who are hanging out in the troll room. Everyone's writing it down in their own red books.
Starting point is 02:17:09 Yeah, there you go. The trolls are listening at trollroom.io or perhaps they are even on one of those modern podcast apps, which are quite swanky indeed. They're very swanky. People are like, wow, what app is that? Oh, that's my modern podcast app, wow, what app is that? Oh, that's my modern podcast app, of course. Oh, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:17:30 What does it do? Well, it alerts me when my favorite shows go live, including the Noah Genes stream. And you can listen to it live in the app. What? You can do that in that app, in a podcast app? Oh yeah. And when my favorite podcasts, when they publish a show within 90 seconds, I know
Starting point is 02:17:48 exactly that it's there. Boom, I get an alert. What? I'm on Apple and it sometimes it takes hours. That's why you want to go to podcastapps.com everybody. It's enhancements brought to you by the
Starting point is 02:17:59 friendly folks at podcastindex.org. Value for value is how we continue to somehow muddle through the through the last four years or four more years, I should say. People send me links like, you said that when Trump won the first time. That's correct. But now we mean it for real, four more years. And so we, we don't have ads, although people have found some interesting loopholes in our system.
Starting point is 02:18:31 Yes, they have loopholes indeed. Some really good loopholes. People are like, hey man, I'm making a killing on my business. That No Agenda show is fantastic. Here's what you do. You become an executive producer or sadly Chief associate executive producers Cheap associate. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 02:18:53 The loophole is phenomenal. I love it Then now the way you can support the show is multi-pronged you can you can support the show is multi-pronged. You can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure. And time and talent, you know, people send clip ideas with, it always helps when they send time code. That's really as highly appreciated. People do organized meetups, they do jingles and show mixes. There's tons of stuff that people do. Run servers for us everywhere. Servers are running everywhere, like Noahagendaartgenerator.com, which is where you can upload. And it's had its ups and downs throughout the years, but generally, I don't have to maintain it. I'd say it's a good deal for us. We don't have to hire someone to maintain it. And then we have the artists themselves,
Starting point is 02:19:42 who create this artwork for us. And then we use that to draw attention to the show It makes us look fresh every single time and we looked funky fresh with the artwork for episode 1749 We titled that show gynocrocy or as I like to say gynocrocy And it was Sir Shug aka Faux Diddley who came in with the winning piece that we picked the Flexibilize live from Ursula Studios which was it was a poppy piece you know it was it was definitely related to the show and it popped all kinds of you know boys and girls dancing you know they were flexible. Did you get the note from the woman who used to be a jazzercise person sent the original art? No.
Starting point is 02:20:25 Oh yeah, one of our producers had something to do with the original art which was jazzercise. Really? It had the same dancers only they were kind of different, slightly different. And the same basic logo, this is where it came from. Oh, so it's a ripoff. It's a ripoff. She thought it was a compliment. Well of course it's a compliment. That's so cool. But it was a ripoff but I'm wondering whether Sir Shug developed it by hand because to do a ripoff you had to have the original and you develop a
Starting point is 02:20:58 kind of a copy of it or or AI actually copied it. Could be, could be. I got an AI story for you for later. Yeah, I saw you have AI clips. I have a couple AI clips. Good. You do your clips, I'll bring the story. I don't know about that. I do. I mean, I'm in control.
Starting point is 02:21:15 Who's driving? You're like the DEI hire on the show. I'm the shotgun. You're the DEI hire. I'm the DEI guy. Shut up. No laughing. No laughing. So we appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:21:30 Of course, we use many of the pieces of art for our chapter artwork, which Dreb Scott diligently does for every single show. We appreciate that very much. We looked at a couple other things. Creepy was Helmet Hair by Blue Acorn, which was Ursula. That was an AI job, but that was pretty interesting how it turned out. Yes, everybody liked to harangue me about, oh, The Hague is the new Dutch capital. It's not Amsterdam.
Starting point is 02:21:58 That's actually contentious. We talked about it after the show. It's not a pure capital. No, it turns out that there's two capitals of Holland. And it turns out that we also did a little research after the show and it turns out that there's about ten countries that have dual capitals. Because the technical description of a capital is where the government has its seat. Oh, that was the term.
Starting point is 02:22:27 It was a strange term. Yeah, we looked it up. I think we used AI to do the research. Really? Well, then I don't trust you. I think you used Chad GPT. You're talking about, you're always doing that. That's exactly what I want to talk about when you play your AI clips.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Um, there was a term, I can't remember what the term was. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, Holland has two capitals. The origin of this capital confusion goes back to the middle ages back then, the Hague with the seat of the government for the country of Holland and the courts of Holland, Amsterdam was just your ordinary up and comes up and coming center of trade. Um, anyway, fine. All right, fine.
Starting point is 02:23:09 Everybody do funny artwork. I'm good. I'll say I was wrong. I'll say I was wrong, but technically the capital is where the government seats. And what else did we have? There was deep fake nudes. No, there was E-Meter Girls. We got a nice note. We got a couple of notes from Scientologists. Hello Scientologists.
Starting point is 02:23:31 Yeah, we have a number of Scientologists that were chuckling about our email. Even the producer who gave us the E-Meters, he still listens. I love that. Yeah, I think that's funny. Yeah, the thing is he turns out We didn't mention this necessarily, but I forgot about it Yeah He says his dad was a big shot in Scientology and he had a bunch of these e meters and he couldn't sell them get Rid of them after his dad died because if you try to sell them on eBay the Scientology community goes after you and Oh life miserable. Oh, no, They knock on your door and say, Hey,
Starting point is 02:24:07 don't give away our technology. I'll just send them to these two bozos. And so he sends us a couple of these E-meters. And we still have them. We still have them. We didn't reach. They're right. I'm using them all the time.
Starting point is 02:24:20 So I got another note from another Scientologist who made the point. He said you should charge the E-meter to make the battery last longer because we probably haven't charged the thing ever. No, I have not. Oh, I should do that. Also, I got another note from, and I shouldn't say he's a Scientologist, but people who are members of the Church of Scientology and said- So that would be a Scientologist? Yeah, well, that's not how he introduced himself. And he said, you have a lot of, okay, I'll use your term, you have a lot of
Starting point is 02:24:54 Scientologists listening to the show because there's a big crossover with you guys between your stance on vaccines, etc., other pharmaceutical products, then there was something else. Your desire to have tax-free income, I think, was the other thing. I'm not sure. It was something like that. It makes sense. So, hello, hello, Scientologists.
Starting point is 02:25:19 You're welcome. Everybody's welcome here. Yeah. Yeah. We've never had a problem with anybody. At least we got some free e-meters. Hey, it beats a punch in the head. Free e-meter. Like I said to the guy, I got the e-meter but we didn't get the pretty girl with it.
Starting point is 02:25:35 So, we didn't do. That's what it was. So thank you very much Sir Shug AKA Faux Diddley. We appreciate your support of the show as always. And that brings us to our executive and associate executive producers. We'd like to thank them separately just like Hollywood does. You know I watched another movie. I watched Flight Risk which is Mark Wahlberg.
Starting point is 02:25:56 And this is another movie you watch without Tina because she doesn't watch these kinds of movies. No, the last Wahlberg movie you watch was pretty dumb. So I think if I had suggested another one, she might not have gone for it. But it was really good. And a lot of it was, it took place in a Cessna airplane and at the end, boom, credits executive producer and
Starting point is 02:26:17 director Mel Gibson. Like, wow. He's running for governor. Of what state? California. Really? Yep. governor. Of what state? California. Really? Yep. Wow.
Starting point is 02:26:29 That would be... I think he might be able to even get the job. Wow. Wow. Because if Kamala Harris runs, there's going to be a backlash against her because nobody likes her. No. And people are always like, you know, let's give them a shot.
Starting point is 02:26:43 How bad could it be? It's Mel. He's pretty successful with movies. Yeah, that's what he's doing. So we thank everybody $50 and above so you can keep track at home if you feel called to do that. But we really just like to thank people and share with you the support that they have given because it does keep the show going for four more years. $200 or above you get a credit like Hollywood, an associate executive producer credit and that is good for your lifetime. You can use it anywhere, put it anywhere. If anyone questions that, we will
Starting point is 02:27:14 vouch for you. You can use it on your resume as example. $300 and above, we will give an executive producer credit and in both cases we'll read your note. If it's within reason and not too long, we've got a long one here today, I see. And that gives you the same credit, which you can then use on imdb.com. So we'll start off with our first and top guy, top executive producer of episode 1750, the Archduke of Central Florida.
Starting point is 02:27:47 I don't remember his, his actual pre Duke name, but he lives in Winter Park, Florida. And he came in with a, actually he gets a double credit for this because he also gets a show number donation 1750. Yeah. That was a good one. Which he says here for here, here to for known as the Blofeld donation from Archduke of Central Florida. Keep up the Queen Ursula clips. Very informative. Five more years he says. Oh, he's skimping. Five more years. Five more years. Well, if we get more people that
Starting point is 02:28:20 donated 1750 every show, we'd probably do five more years. Explain the Blofeld donation because I forgot. I don't know. I don't remember. What is Blofeld? Blofeld was one of the evil characters in the early James Bond movies. Oh, okay. Well now it's... Stavros Blofeld. He always used to have a big white cat and he would wear this gray outfit. He had a scar on his face and he was bald and he was nasty. Thank you very much Archduke of Central Florida and yes, we will now call this the Blofeld donation 1750. Clifford Remersma. I would say it's Remersma. Remersma.
Starting point is 02:29:04 Remersma in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. $350.93. Just bought a pair of work boots for $330. Wow. I figured it's time to invest in another luxury that helps me through the workday. That's the show. The No Agenda Show. That's 333.33 plus fees. Wow. Two-thirds to the knighthood. Two-thirds of the way to the knighthood. Could I get a relationship?
Starting point is 02:29:35 Karma, please. Yeah, absolutely. He totally understands the system. You've got karma. That's exactly how you should see the show. He got something out of it and he put it right back in. That's the value for value model right there. He looked at the shoes.
Starting point is 02:29:49 He said, these are 300 bucks on it. They're going to protect by probably has steel toes. And he said, you know, this is protecting my brain. I have one rule which I which Tina and I adhere to. If you're using anything on a daily basis you should be might as well get a good one so if it's a mattress if it's a pillow if it's your cutting board if it's a things that you use every single day and if you're listening to a podcast twice a week for a total of six over six hours you might as well make sure it's it continues you want it to be the best
Starting point is 02:30:23 podcast in the universe so you need to support us. That's my logic. I think that's a good one. 333.33 from Meister Chit Chat in Russellville, Arkansas. And he has a very complicated note. Good evening or morning salutations, amazing gentlemen. Okay. More brevity is appreciated.
Starting point is 02:30:41 Thank you for your service. It's courage. I'd like to clarify on my previous donation was a 333.33 switcheroo with fees included so is this one Miss Eclectic Chit Chat of Harmony Homestead. This donation is also a switcheroo for the same Miss Chit Chat. Okay so let me put in Mrs. Chit Chat. There we go. I must make it clear that we engage corporately without prejudice for our firstborn to be named after you without prejudice. Our son will be named Gabriel Nolan of God, a hero or champion, thanks to you.
Starting point is 02:31:16 And four more years, he will be instrumental in bringing more souls to the Creator during this time of turmoil. Is your name Gabriel? I guess. Adam Gabriel Curry. Thank you both and all of Noah's in the nation. We can begin the next phase of our parentage after four years of IVF effort. Oh, wow. All right.
Starting point is 02:31:35 Phew. Expensive and tedious. That's a lot of work. Yes. No success until we underwent a deducing. A deducing did it. And Blupron endometriosis treatment. I think it was the deducing, a deducing did it and blue prawn endometriosis treatment. I think it was the deducing. My wife is now over one third of motherhood and two third
Starting point is 02:31:51 damehood. If you're an Alaskan needing dental work, check out mustachiodds.com. Mustachiodds.com. Mustachiodds.com. I'm guessing he's got a mustache. We make your teeth look good. Needing psychiatric help? RPI or looking for off-grid or gardening help?
Starting point is 02:32:13 Harmony Homestead on Facebook or Snapchat. Wow, that is a broad spectrum of services. Sorry for the obtuse note. Use ITM on the phone for a stackable 10% discount on total treatment plan at Atkins Dental Clinic. Whoo! No jingles, no karma. Everything above was long enough, he says. Yes, Sir Meister Chit Chat of Harmony hosted. Homestead, thank you. Thank you, Sir Meister Chit Chat. Great note, very entertaining. Well, that's contrast that with Chap Williams in Edmund, Oklahoma, who came with 333.33. That was a check with no note.
Starting point is 02:32:48 And so they, he gets a double up karma. Oh, and here we go. Double up for the karmas. You've got karma. Double up. Karma. And 333 from Sir Tanley. Sir Tanley, Port Orange, Florida.
Starting point is 02:32:57 I.T.M. Jen, so much to say, so little time, so I'll keep it short. Keep up the good work, boys. You've kept me listening twice a week since 2016. And the weather app we've been working on has finally hit the Apple App Store. You want to try your hand at predicting the weather in your hometown? Then install Weather Champs. Win forecast coins. Enter sweepstakes and be crowned the Weather Champ. Use code WEATHERFRIEND for 50% off an annual subscription. Coming to Android in the next few weeks.
Starting point is 02:33:45 No jingles, no karma. Sir Tanley the weather champ. Oh, well when it's on Android, let me know. I'll try it out The weather champ and I can win forecast coins John Yeah, good You can use them Eli the coffee guys up. He's in Bensonville, Illinois $230 and 20 cents And he says, well, news agency railed against the administration for deporting an innocent pro-Palestine activist for exercising his free
Starting point is 02:34:16 speech. You guys called out Mahmoud Khalil for being a spook. That's a type of deconstruction that makes no agenda truly the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for the insight. Jingle, Spot the Spook. George Clooney's the spy for producers by the way. Spooks or otherwise. In need of great coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated.
Starting point is 02:34:43 Eli the Coffee Guy. A spot to spook, spot to spook, everybody wants to spot the spook. George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney is a spy. Man, I really get him today, don't I? Day Mary Moon, Prairieville, Louisiana. Yes, you get every one. This is the best day ever. $200 associate executive producership for her. And it's a switcheroo for my hubby, Sir Jukla.
Starting point is 02:35:19 Okay. All right. Sir Jukla. All right. So we'll put Sir JClaw in there. Perfect. Welp! Good job on the No Agenda artwork you picked on Sunday. Oh, we were just talking about it. It prompted my donation. See, this is why
Starting point is 02:35:33 Time Talent Treasure works. It works in so many different ways, sometimes unexpected. I'm not sure if you realize that or not. Possibly it will be discussed on Thursday, but the graphic is clearly a knockoff of Oh, this is the note, of the original Jazzercise artwork. I am sending you the original so you can compare the similarities. I am not mad about the similarities, quite the contrary.
Starting point is 02:35:55 I have been a Jazzercise instructor for 15 years and I own two Jazzercise studios in South Louisiana. It is the best workout program around. Ladies of no agenination, head over to your local Jazzercise studio. We have 8,000 locations. What? I need to get the Fredericksburg franchise license. We have 8,000 locations and we're in nearly every state
Starting point is 02:36:21 in over 110 countries to experience the original dance fitness workout. I've been making people dance sweat and smile for over 55 years. By the way guys, you too can take our classes. We don't discriminate. We're not the ginocracy. Thanks John and Adam and the artists who donated their time and talent for making my morning a little sunnier when I saw the artwork pop up. That's from Dame Mary Moon. How about that? There it is. That's why I never saw the note, cause I didn't get it. That's what happened there. It's amazing. The people that listen to this show and produce it.
Starting point is 02:36:54 Yeah, we do. We do have amazing. Including Linda Lupatkin, who's from Lakewood, Colorado. And she's once she came with 200 bucks and asks for jobs karma and says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results go to image makers inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs that's image makers Inc. with a K and work with Linda Lou Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes jobs jobs jobs and jobs jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And there it is again. Another long note with a switcheroo.
Starting point is 02:37:30 This is crazy. This is crazy. A switcheroo. This is from Kaitlyn Meyer of Los Angeles, California. And switcheroo for Lady Linda of Los Angeles. Mira que bura! Happy birthday! And that is today, so on the list. Your cara de chucho face of a brother and his wife are putting in the big one for you so don't ever say we did nothing for you. We're taking a note from Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes and Eli the coffee guy and giving you a big shout out in front of the best podcast listeners in the universe.
Starting point is 02:38:03 That's interesting. you a big shout out in front of the best podcast listeners in the universe. That's interesting. Now we have people who use a service or a product advertising it. This is great. Yeah. That's a double switcheroo. And Caitlin Meyer asked, have you got money on your mind? Why? Let Linda, Lady Linda get your money to work for you.
Starting point is 02:38:21 If you peruse Instagram for your next overseas adventure, flip those magazines in the waiting room and see for yourself on that tranquil shoreline and get your finances in order. The money you have today can start working to send you there tomorrow. Contact Linda. She cares and she's good. That's linda.gata at nm.com. linda.gata at nm.com linda.gata g-a-e-t-a at nm.com Wow! I might have to withdraw the money from Horowitz and give it to Linda because she cares and she's good. We request jobs karma for the birthday girl. Here's to another great trip around the sun. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yeah! Karma.
Starting point is 02:39:05 Wow. That was pretty amazing. Very interesting executive and associate executive producers. Thank you so much for supporting the No Agenda Show episode 1750. We appreciate that. And as of Sunday, you'll be able to go to noagenda.org.org.nl and set up your recurring donation. But just in case, remember this, noagendadonations.com. That's where you can support us. We'll be thanking people who support us. $50 and above in our second segment. And yes, you can do a recurring donation,
Starting point is 02:39:35 any amount, any frequency. It's up to you. You determine the value. Make the number matter to you because we love numerology here on the best podcast in the universe. Noagendadonations.com. Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this.
Starting point is 02:39:51 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order. Shut up, splay. Shut up, splay. Alright, two little quick fun things. One, we're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show.
Starting point is 02:40:02 We're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show. We're going to do a little bit of a show. All right, two little quick fun, fun clips, two little quick fun clips, quickies, little quickies, little quickies. Sure. A little AOC gaff. And this isn't just about Republicans. We need a Democratic party that fights, fights harder for us too.
Starting point is 02:40:30 Your future president, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that's what she's thinking. That's what's on her mind. And then this one from Jasmine Crockett, everyone's losing their mind over this. I think this is way overblown. A congresswoman from North Texas is causing controversy over a recent comment she made about Governor Abbott. Fox's Steven Dial explains. Well as Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is being called out by other elected officials for her comments last Saturday at a human rights campaign event. Y'all know we got Governor Hot Wheels down there, come on now. And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot f***ing mess.
Starting point is 02:41:05 Referring to Governor Greg Abbott as Hot Wheels, Abbott was partially paralyzed when a tree fell on him decades ago. I think this is stupid. It's actually a cool name. I think Governor Hot Wheels is pretty funny. Everybody, oh, outrage. Oh, I can't believe she said that she made fun of the man in the wheelchair. How hypocritical is that?
Starting point is 02:41:30 Like when Trump makes fun of people's ears and eyes and height and whatever. Oh, it's great. This is actually, I have to say as a nickname, I think it's pretty cool. I'm going to call him Governor Hot Wheels from now on. Okay. What did you think? Did you think anything of this at all? I know you're lost, Nocey. Well, I know everybody talked about this.
Starting point is 02:41:54 I think you're right. It was overblown. I do think it was kind of at the, she gave it a human rights convention, which I think that was the wrong audience. Well, there's that. I mean, it was like, you know, ableist kind of thing. Wow. You are the DEI hire.
Starting point is 02:42:14 You use the term ableist? Yeah. I'm just because that's the nature of what she says. I think the venue was wrong. And so she wasn't thinking, but she's a dummy. So who cares what she says. It was it still was funny. It is funny and I think High Wheels is a good nickname for the guy. Yeah from now on. I never see him moving very fast in that thing. Well that's kind of the funny part.
Starting point is 02:42:37 It's like this is what you do you mean you you give people nicknames based upon their physical appearance. We do this all the time on the show. Yes, we do it all the time. Okay. So. But we're not in front of a human rights convention. We do it. Well, we are in front of Scientologists.
Starting point is 02:42:55 I mean. Yeah, it's true. We get the Scientologists. We haven't really given anyone grief. No. Do they really donate the Scientologists or they don't? They do the silent donations. You know, it's a good question. We'll have to take a look. I'll have to go back to some research. Let's do a little couple. No. Do they really donate the Scientology or do they do the silent donations?
Starting point is 02:43:05 It's a good question. We'll have to take a look. I have to go back to some research. Let's do a little couple. I got a couple of clips which have a kind of a little gotcha in here that I think is worth talking about. This is about religious quitting. This is on NPD, the special, and people are brought up in a religion and they quit. Oh no! People around the world are switching religions or leaving religion altogether. A new study from Pew Research finds that large portions of adults no longer practice the faith in which they were raised. Pew surveyed nearly 80,000 people in 36 countries.
Starting point is 02:43:38 NPR religion correspondent Jason Derose reports. Switching is especially common in East Asia, Europe, and the Americas. Kirsten Lassage is the study's lead author. Out of the 36 countries that we surveyed in, the three countries with the highest rates of religious switching are South Korea, Spain, and Canada. In South Korea, Pew found that 50% of respondents had changed religions. In Spain, 40% said they'd left their childhood faith. In Canada, the number is 38%.
Starting point is 02:44:08 By comparison, in the US, 28% switched. Lasaj says two religions were most affected. The religious groups that have had the largest losses from religious switching are Christianity and Buddhism. Lasaj says the change is particularly acute in parts of Europe. For example, Italy has the highest ratio of people leaving to people joining Christianity. For every one person who becomes Christian, about 28 Italians are leaving the religion. The biggest gains were among those who have no religious affiliation, which is a group
Starting point is 02:44:41 that includes atheists, agnostics, and those who describe themselves as nothing in particular. So it's not the case that people are necessarily switching from one religion to the next. For example, there's not a lot of switching from Christianity into Islam. Rather, Lassage says, most switching is people leaving religion altogether. Yeah, well this is an interesting choice of words, but maybe I should hold my white Christian nationalist perspective until the second clip? Yeah, I would say because I have this sense that they're trying to slam the Christians here in some funny way. And I think the second clip has an exemplification of that, and it's a tricky one, and we'll listen to it and I'll ask you a question. Oh, a question. Well, let me go and walk away from the microphone so at least we're fair. Meanwhile, specific religions in some countries appear to be stickier than others. You found
Starting point is 02:45:41 very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed and nearly all people who were raised... Joined or left Islam? Very few people leave Islam. Oh. Pew found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed and nearly all people who were raised Hindu in India and Bangladesh still identify as Hindu today.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Judaism's retention rate is also high. In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish. In the US, 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today, with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated. Pew also found that 19% of U.S. adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated. Jason DeRose, NPR News. All right.
Starting point is 02:46:41 Interesting report from Pew. So I'm going to ask you the question. Okay. Why do you think more Christians have become unaffiliated in the United States than Jews? Oh, I can answer the first question, but the second one, well, you are a Jew. This is not just a religion, they consider themselves to be part of a population group and also not white. Well, wrong. According to Pew, what did Pew say? Pew said that more Jews than Christians have left the faith in the United States.
Starting point is 02:47:24 But you heard it differently, didn't you? I sure did. And the fact that you could answer that, try to answer a question that was a misleading question based on what you thought you heard. Wow, do I need to listen to that again to hear it correctly? I'll explain what they did then you can listen again. That was really good. What they did was they did the old switch where they gave you the wrong
Starting point is 02:47:45 side of the equation and you had to do the math in your head to understand what the, what the, what the leaving rate was. And then they gave you the right side of the equation. This is NPR by the way. And then they gave you the right side of the equation for the Christian part of it. In fact, if you listen carefully, 24% of the Jews left and 19% of the Christians left the faith. Let me hear that. It's in the second clip or in the first clip? It's in the second clip right at the end. Let me move it forward a little bit. That was,
Starting point is 02:48:18 wow, I got duped. You surveyed who were raised Jewish, still identify Hindu today. Judaism's retention rate is also high. In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish. In the US, 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated. You also found that 19% of US adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated. Jason Derose, NPR News. Good catch. Wow. This is why I teased this early in the show, saying how you can do this.
Starting point is 02:49:03 With the half a decade? With the half a decade with the half a day Yeah, this is the kind of stuff that that NPR pulls there's no reason for them to do it that way to say 76 percent and then Stayed and then 19 percent left for the for the Christian side. It gives you the nut. It gives you the sense Yeah, the Christians are bailing out and And in fact, the opposite is actually true. And that's why the thought you answered a question that really was a faulty question based on the bull crap. Wow.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Well, thank you. That was very good. That is media deconstruction at its finest. I tip my hat to you, sir. Thank you. Thank you very much. I will say the thing that I was focused on is the term religion. Religion, I am not religious. I do not belong to a religion. And also when they say, well, all these Christians in Rome, well, their religion is Catholicism. It is in fact, and I do track this,
Starting point is 02:50:03 and I talk to different pastors about this, we are seeing record numbers of people leaving the Baptist Church and the Catholic Church and they're going non-denominational or just are believers and have faith. So I think the whole study is somewhat skewed because if you actually look at the Zoomers, they're buying Bibles like no one else's business. It's up over 20% in the past year. Yeah, I think that's veering off what the topic was. I think they were specifically talking about religion.
Starting point is 02:50:34 I know, but people who are atheists or non-believers, when they hear religion, they think, oh, church people. But I go to a church, but it's not a religion. When they hear religion, they think, oh, church people. I go to a church, but it's not a religion. Organized religion, if anything, is a problem, in my opinion. It's not been good for the pope. Italian doctor who led the hospital team that cared for Pope Francis is giving new insight into the seriousness of the pope's recent health battle.
Starting point is 02:51:04 Professor Sergio Alfieri told an Italian newspaper that doctors considered ending his treatment. The critical moment came on February 28th when the Pope had a breathing crisis. The choice was whether to stop treatment and let him pass or try more aggressive drugs and therapies that come with a very high risk of damaging other organs. Man, we didn't hear that report that he almost died. It was all like, oh, he's going to be okay. He just inhaled some puke. It's okay. It's all right. He's hanging in there. He almost died.
Starting point is 02:51:35 They almost pulled him off the system. The Pope was aware that there was a chance that he might not survive the night. According to the doctor, who was then instructed to try everything and not give up. Back here at home, Dr. David Manoff at Temple University Hospital's Jeans Campus says this type of scenario is not uncommon. Once you are really, really sick and in an ICU, sometimes some of the things that we really have to do are to prioritize what the most life-threatening organ failure is going to be at that time, even if some of the things that we do potentially come at the potential for injury to other
Starting point is 02:52:11 organ systems. So Dr. Manoff says the Pope has a long road to recovery. Pope Francis was discharged on Sunday after 38 days in the hospital. Man, that was pretty serious. It gives me more time to think about the next pope. Yeah, that's a good, it's a break for you. I'm narrowing it down as three candidates, three candidates. I'm getting close.
Starting point is 02:52:34 I'm not even going to ask you to tease it. No. International news just a little bit. International news everybody. Wait a minute. I'm guessing maybe it is the BBC World Service. Yes. This is good stuff. Now this is the South, all hell's breaking loose that we're not being told
Starting point is 02:52:51 about. It's amazing actually. Let's start with South Sudan. The UN mission in South Sudan has warned that the arrest of first vice president Riyak Machar has brought the country to the brink of another civil war. The renewed political violence began last month. Paddy Maguire reports. The arrest of President Salva Kiir's long-term rival at his residence in Juba is a dramatic escalation. In a statement, the head of UNMISS said rising tensions between factions loyal to Mr Machar, a former rebel leader, and the forces of Mr Kiir were jeopardizing the 2018 peace agreement. Nearly 400,000 people died in five years of devastating civil war before the
Starting point is 02:53:30 power-sharing deal was signed. As that deal unravels and the violence escalates, some 50,000 South Sudanese citizens have already been displaced. Oh, will they be passionate at the universities about this? No, of course not. They don't care. Nobody cares about this stuff. So here we go. The other one is Pakistan. Oh, I also have an Africa clip, actually. Pakistan, OK.
Starting point is 02:53:55 Senior police in Balochistan say at least six people were killed on Wednesday in a spate of coordinated attacks in Pakistan's restless southwestern province. According to the French news agency, police accused gunmen of targeting bus passengers on the basis of their ethnicity. A member of the security forces was among those killed. Local press reported explosions and trucks being set on fire in various parts of the province. Separatist insurgents have stepped up their activity against Pakistani security forces in recent weeks. No protests about that either.
Starting point is 02:54:30 Yeah, no one cares about that. And the Sudanese even funnier about people not caring. 400,000 people killed? No, who cares? Who cares? Interesting. Do we have the same clip here? Because I have one Africa clip, because you know, manga, make Africa news great again. This USAID Uganda BBC?
Starting point is 02:54:55 Well, let's try it. As a federal judge in the US blocks the Trump administration from taking further steps to shut down the US Agency for International Development. We'll be asking what that means in practice for people on the ground running health programs in Uganda. Ah, well I happen to have an answer. Well there you go.
Starting point is 02:55:15 Yes, and this answer in the Africa news segment from the No Agenda World Service. We should do our own thing. Now from the No Agenda World Service we go to Africa. And what do we learn in Africa? This is from the former African Union ambassador to the United States. Her name is Arekana Chihombori-Kwau. You need to understand the real reason why USAID is in Africa. And not just USAID, but other NGOs. You look at DfID
Starting point is 02:55:46 which is the British equivalent and many other smaller ones. Their sole purpose was to act as if they're coming to rescue Africa. They are coming in claiming that they're introducing a grassroots initiative that are going to help the people and so they use that as a way to go into the most remote parts of Africa. When you look at it on paper it all looks really good but they're actually wolf in sheep's clothing. They are using that open access sounding humanitarian to constantly destabilize governments. I can tell you right now the majority of African leaders and not just African leaders but leaders in the developing world are celebrating the exit of USID. If you think about it, their sole purpose for example,
Starting point is 02:56:29 filling in the gaps in healthcare and education, where is the change? Show me one country that USID was in and education improved. Show me what country where USID was in and healthcare improved. The social services they're bringing, it's peanuts. The American taxpayer needs to know the billions of dollars that are being given to usid. A fraction is making it to the people. Oh there you go straight from the horse's mouth. Not like we didn't know that. No we knew it. We had a note from one of our producers. I wish I could find it because I was going to discuss it. Oh yeah I remember the the, we actually got a couple of good notes. He got some good notes.
Starting point is 02:57:06 The guy says, he says he was in Africa and the USAID guys came in with a bunch of stuff. Mosquito nets, mosquito nets. Mosquito nets. And they took a bunch of pictures of them with the, you know, here's the pictures of us with the guys. And then they left and left them high and dry saying they was only there for a photo op.
Starting point is 02:57:26 Yeah. Do your AI clips, because then we can wrap today's show with that. These clips, I don't know if this is going to work with what you have to talk about. Oh, maybe. This is about AI in libraries and the benefit that it could provide. And I think this is accurate stuff. And this is mostly the first clip is Brewster Kaley, who is the head of the archive.org. Hey, is it Kaley? Kale? It's Kale, I think it's pronounced.
Starting point is 02:57:57 I know the guy, but he won't. He won't take your call anymore? No, he won't take it. Because you're a typical. You're a podcaster. You're a podcaster. I went from an important writer to a podcaster. And, you won't take typical. We are podcast your podcast. I went from Important writer to podcaster. Yes, you know that if you were an important writer award-winning was important Yeah, of course you did I know you did yeah, it's a bestseller. Yes
Starting point is 02:58:21 We're digitizing all of these pest reports from Africa for over the last century and people are probably not going to be the primary readers of this, but our machines can. So not only just search engines for going and helping people find it and then using digital interlibrary loan, which is fantastic and it's going on now, but we now have these technologies, the AI technologies, that allows these to be put in new and different ways to go and correlate information across texts that have spanned over centuries and to be able to try to make that more digestible, more learnable, more browsable, more
Starting point is 02:58:59 interactable than ever before. The opportunity of our digital libraries coming and being useful to people because of these new technologies is just fantastic. Oh, was that Brewster? I think so. Oh, so fantastic. He goes on and on with part two. There's a three-parter. They're not much I can say. And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?
Starting point is 02:59:25 Well, lots of people are downloading. Hold on, what it sounds like to me, is he pitching selling archive.org to AI companies? Is that what I'm hearing here? I didn't hear that in the clip, but it's quite possible. And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's? Well, lots of people are downloading lots of things from the internet archive and putting them in the big commercial systems but pretty much just the open materials because of all the copyright and lawsuits problems that we have in the United States. In Europe they've specifically encouraged cultural heritage institutions and research organizations to work together to use these for new and different
Starting point is 03:00:05 things. So that's why I'm in Amsterdam right now working with these research organizations to make use of these materials because there's regulatory clarity in Europe towards having a blossoming of our library collections and bringing them to life. He's got an agenda here for sure. Well his agenda is he's getting sued left and right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:28 Well, and I can't say it's, I mean, whenever his little trick, I have a tip of the day. I have a browser plugin. It's called Archive Page and I have it on my Bravo browser. So whenever I hit a Wall Street Journal article or anything like that, I hit my Archive Page browser plugin and it will immediately find that page, which has then been archived by someone who apparently paid for it or archived it before it was behind whatever paywall and boom, you got the whole page right there.
Starting point is 03:01:13 You can read it, no problem. That is a good tip. Somebody else sent a similar tip that I'm not gonna use today, but maybe we should gang him up and do the two tips in an upcoming show. Let's wrap it with a third of these clips. I want to look at another aspect of this, which is that we shouldn't forget that libraries preserve and make available many things other than books or magazines. For example, at the US Library of Congress, less than a quarter of the objects held are
Starting point is 03:01:43 books. So what about web pages, for instance, Bruce? They do tend to appear and disappear with alarming speed, don't they? The average life of a web page is about 100 days before it's changed or deleted. It completely changes how we go and build our collections. We have to do it preemptively,
Starting point is 03:02:01 just in case that might be useful. We collect over 1 billion URLs every day. The number of web pages in the Wayback machine is now 900 billion. The scale of it is a little hard to understand, but it's just trying to record what's going on out there just so that we can basically have our own history just requires a different view of how we see our old-fashioned trade of archivists and librarians. Huh. Well, I certainly think he has an awesome index. He has a very crappy way to search.
Starting point is 03:02:42 I mean, unless you have... Well, it's just that The search is no good. It's no good. But this is... In fact, if you could really search that thing, there's a lot of value in that. In fact, they also have the thing about that collection is he has a collection of 78s. Yes, we've talked about this. It's unbelievable. And not only that, but he has a bunch of these nutballs out there who have fixed a lot of these, I mean using modern
Starting point is 03:03:08 software. Fixed a lot of the 78s so there's no pops or crackles or and the fidelity is better. It's a lot of work to do any of those let alone a lot of them and there's two or three guys that have been doing it just kind of consistently. I guess maybe they do a few every day. But the collection of 78s is unbelievable. Do you remember when the MTV News webpage just went off the air? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:37 I downloaded the entire archive of the MTV News website from archive.org. There's a couple of really good scripts out there. I mean, because it's basically an open source resource, it would be fantastic for Anthropic or someone to really put a good search engine on top of that. In fact, this is the trend as Google is about to do this very thing. Google has introduced a new feature.
Starting point is 03:04:04 And this of course is a story about AI read by AI called AI mode, which is an advanced chat bot designed to answer search queries. This update is seen as Google's direct response to competitors like chat GPT, which have been gaining popularity. When users ask a question in AI mode, Google's Gemini 2.0 AI model generates a detailed answer. This AI system allows users to ask follow-up questions or request additional links for more information. Google explains that AI mode is designed to simplify complex topics by organizing data
Starting point is 03:04:38 and presenting it in a clear and easy-to-understand format. The company is making major improvements to its search engine by integrating the latest version of its artificial intelligence. This change is part of Google's effort to provide faster and more expert-level answers to users. Competition in the AI search industry has been increasing, with smaller companies creating innovative ways to deliver search results. To stay ahead, Google has decided to enhance its search engine with more powerful AI capabilities.
Starting point is 03:05:08 The Gemini 2.0 AI model will now be used to answer complicated questions, especially those related to subjects like computer programming and mathematics. And there it is. So first of all, yes, I just said it's an AI voice. Everyone's like, this voice is AI. Okay, are you listening to the show?
Starting point is 03:05:24 said, it's an AI voice. Everyone's like, this voice is AI. Okay. Are you listening to the show? So I decided to use multiple AIs, including ChatGPT. I did not try Copilot because I had a project. I had a computer- About Grok. No, I had a computer coding project and this is what it's supposed to be good at. And so I run a little streaming radio station called hellofred.fm and I run it on a radio program called station playlist. And then so it streams and you can schedule, do clocks, you know, when you want to jingle or different format of music, all that stuff.
Starting point is 03:06:06 And I was really interested in putting this on a Unix server and using something called Liquid Soap, which is a very, very extensive program. It has this whole complete programming language. It's all open source. Thousands of people have worked on this. There's extensive documentation. All the syntax is very well documented, very well known. And so I'm able to set up the server and get a basic system where it just, you know, plays one song after
Starting point is 03:06:35 another. But then I want to script and have transitions work a certain way. I want to be able to put in a format, way which songs, how many songs separation, that kind of stuff. And I just can't figure it out. I wanted to pull, you know, want to be able to put in a format way which songs, you know, how many song separation that kind of stuff and And I just can't figure it out. So I go to the AIs and they's very friendly Oh sure Adam I can and it calls me by my name Adam. I can help you with this. No problem. I spent Almost all of Monday and Tuesday trying to just get this thing to do a different type of crossfade. And I think I must have over 300 prompts and replies
Starting point is 03:07:12 and I keep putting the error and it kept getting an error and then another error. And then all of a sudden, well, you have the wrong version of FFmpeg. So I'm recompiling FFmpeg from source. And then it's like, well, you need to recompile the kernel. None of these things could actually help me write a successful script. It sucks.
Starting point is 03:07:32 This is the whole point. It's supposed to make people be able to code mathematics code. They said it right there. Yeah, it was good. It does a horrible job right into it. And I even, and I even said, here's the document. Oh, yes, I'm very aware of this documentation. And then it would be like, oh no, it seems like we have a problem. You're using a different version of what time to step down from FFMPEG 5.5.1 to 4.4.7. It sucks. It is a time waste. I could have learned the language in the amount of time I put into it.
Starting point is 03:08:04 What a horrible experience. It's just time waste. I could have learned the language in the amount of time I put into it. What a horrible experience. This is going nowhere. And welcome to the No Agenda Grievance section of the show. I missed a semicolon somewhere. Yeah, that's right. And by the way, this is about grievance. I have a grievance with today's donation segment. We had a total of 30. This is crazy.
Starting point is 03:08:39 This is really crazy. It's the shortest list we've ever had, I'd say for at least two years. Yeah. And I'll read the ones from, starting with entry number 10 actually, and take it to entry number 30 and that would be the total for the day. Wow. Mark Lay in Houston, Texas starts this off with $199 and John W. Schuman in Madison, Wisconsin $184.29.
Starting point is 03:09:06 Sir Ever of the Watt in Linwood, Michigan $130.03. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right away at $8008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs. Tim Kwan, 75. He actually came in with a Weiss, somehow he managed to get Weiss through. Weiss is a weird app. It basically does an ACH transfer somehow.
Starting point is 03:09:38 Well, if you set it up at your bank, if you do it the other way around where you put the onus on the show, it can't get, we can't get it. No, of course not. We can't get anything with our bank. I'd like Tim to tell me what his process was. We can't get anything done with our bank. No.
Starting point is 03:09:54 I love our bank. The bank is just like, hey, we've got cash, we'll take your cash, we'll take a check, we'll take your cash. What else you got? You can write a check, you want gold bars. All right, shut up already. That's exactly right. Jose Paredes in Wichita, Kansas, 6933. He needs a D-douching. You've been D-douched.
Starting point is 03:10:16 And he's got a birthday coming up and he's on the list. Bruno Freitas dos San something. I don't have it on here. Hold on. Bruno freighters dos Santos The Santos in San Francisco 52 72, which is $50 donation Kevin Adam and Clover, South Carolina 5272 Tom Flynn and Beaverton, Oregon 5272 and he says great show Eric Hokel our buddy in Mulrose
Starting point is 03:10:44 Mulrose Deutschland 52. Now we have the 50s, we're already at the 50s and here we go with starting with Brett Denton in Boise, Boise. Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Verde, Vedra Beach, Florida. Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas. George Wuschett in Lavernia, Texas. Jacqueline Connolly in Green Bay, Go Packers, Wisconsin. Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York. Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon. Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas. A lot of people in Spring, Texas. Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana. Alan Bean, Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.
Starting point is 03:11:29 And last on our list, Baroness Knight in Edmonds, Washington. And that's the short list for today's show. We want to thank them for helping us out on show. Of all shows, 1750, a landmark show. Yeah. And well, we did have thank thank God we had one show show number donation man step it up people and please check your recurring donations because They've fallen off dramatically as they expire when your credit card or something else. We lost a lot of those I think that makes a big difference and we do have to give that. I don't know why he did this
Starting point is 03:12:02 But he came in at 49.99, but he wants this dentist down below. He's just had hemorrhoid surgery. Ouch. He says it's been six weeks of five hours of diffusingly pain after I poop. I mean, the pain is unbearable. I'm on this and that. He says that he's not cutting it. I know I'm not a big donor, uh, under 50 every year,
Starting point is 03:12:27 but if you guys can give me some health karma, that would be great. Yes. I'm going to, I'm going to give him some health karma right now because man, especially after you poop, that's no good. Here you go, buddy. You've got karma. He's in Puerto Rico. All right. Thank you very much to these donors $50 and above including our executive and associate executive producers please help us out by going to no agenda show comm and And setting and donating something to a support the show
Starting point is 03:12:55 We have no no other way of making this continue for four more years. No agenda donations comm. Thank you all very much NoagendaDonations.com, thank you all very much. It's your birthday, birthday. Oh, Noah, check it out. Caitlin Meyer says happy birthday to Lady Linda. She celebrates today. Michelle Neva says happy birthday to Nora Neva. And she turns 21 on, what is it, on Saturday. Jose Paredes on the 29th.
Starting point is 03:13:22 That's also on Saturday. And some health karma for her right away. You've got karma. There we go. Because we do have a title change here. I'm going to read the note first. This is Richard of Tasmania. He says thanks for except he says Adam and John. Thanks for accepting Australian dollar dues as real money
Starting point is 03:13:56 You do a better job than our useless government by respecting our dodgy currency that way I'm a recurring producer in your show and I've earned enough to experience to be a level two knight. Benefits include a healthy amygdala, increased resistance to propaganda, and improved ability to detect gas lighting. Thank you very much. So he becomes a, well it says layaway title change,
Starting point is 03:14:18 so I'm not sure what he becomes. Oh, baronet, there we go. He becomes a baronet, so let me just, let me, let me might as well give you the jingle I could have done the whole thing in the music anyway thanks very much sir Richard of Tasmania congratulations you are now baronet sir Richard of Tasmania and we do have a Commodore coming in today. This would be the Archduke of Central Florida who stepped it up once again.
Starting point is 03:14:48 So we say, congratulations, you are now a Commodore and you are arriving, sir. Woo, very nice. Commodore, go to noagendarings.com and there's a tab there, a menu item. You can give us the address and the actual title, but I think it will be Commodore Archduke of Central Florida. Let us know for sure.
Starting point is 03:15:09 We'll get it out to you as soon as possible. They're very, very handsome. No one should know meetups. It's not your money. We got the North Georgia monthly meetup at six o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. We have the Columbia River Basin monthly Tri-Cities meetup at 7 o'clock tomorrow at Ty's Bar & Grill in West Richland, Washington.
Starting point is 03:15:34 On Saturday, there's one every single day, the Magix 33 Toverland meetup. Oh, this is in safe and in the Netherlands. Is that during the... Oh, that's at 10 o'clock in the morning. Bring your bring your alcohol, I guess. Toferland, Toferlam too, in safe and in the Netherlands. OK, 10 o'clock in the morning. Also on Saturday, this time in California, all aboard the flight of the no agenda
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Starting point is 03:17:37 You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Yo, yo. So are you back to regular ISOs now? You're no longer doing the AI stuff? Are you? This time it's a split. See what you got. Okay, hold on a second.
Starting point is 03:17:56 I got to correct some of the volumes on these because some of the volumes are way off. Yeah, here's what I got. Yeah, that's a great one. I got this one. Vumps for all. All for Vumps. That was kind of cute. And then this one. Bye Adam. Bye John. Not really an ISO, but. No. Okay. What do you...
Starting point is 03:18:18 Well, I got, here's a real one. This is the, this is the, um, A too much. It, too much. It was too much. It was too much. It was too much. It was not good enough. It's not too much. And then here is the, this is a meta.
Starting point is 03:18:34 Meta? Yeah, this is a meta clip and you hear why. I may be fake, but that show was real and great. What happened? I may be fake, but that show is real and great. I'm so torn about this. Oh, oh, oh no, he's torn.
Starting point is 03:18:59 It is time for John C. Dvorak's tip of the day, everybody. I'll use it though. Created by Dana Bernetti. I'll use it. I'll use it. Okay. This is, I got this from two different people. Oh.
Starting point is 03:19:21 And, which is always like a sign. The first time I looked at it, I said, no, no, no. Then I started really looking at it. And I said, holy mackerel, this is actually pretty phenomenal. Okay. But you have to dig, you have to go down because all the top, this is called, this is a, I don't even know where they got this top level domain, but the site is tv.garden. TV.garden.
Starting point is 03:19:43 I want you to go to this. Now it has it has TV shows from every country in the world and it has almost everything that you can imagine. You can click on the map, you can scroll down, there's a lot of different ways of doing it. The map, you can spin it around a globe. And most of the stuff at the top, like, for example, you go to the United States, the first 10 things at the top are all religious programming. I think this is a bunch of religious stuff, but no, you dig down, you go down to thousands of stations, including Buena Park Television, for example.
Starting point is 03:20:29 But I want you to do this. Go to, either go to the map. I'm at the map. Okay, hit Canada. Okay, I'm going to hit Canada so hard they won't know what hit them. Yep. Okay, now go to the, on the side you see there's two things in Canada. One is Afghan Nobel movies. This is a bunch of movies is Afghanistan because it's alphabetical.
Starting point is 03:20:50 So every, every country's got F. Yeah. Click on the second one. Afghan noble TV. Hacked by cyber dragons team. It says, yeah, what is this? So page has been hacked. The whole page has been overrun by some group. Interesting. Yeah. Barney the Dinosaur? Wow. This is pretty cool. It's unbelievable. Wow. How do they even get away with that? There in lies the rub. I do not believe this site is legal. I don't think so either
Starting point is 03:21:30 They have everything from every country every imaginable TV feed is on this site So you can watch I they have Milwaukee's local station. They have Okay, everything in Canada's I didn't even know half the stuff exists. They have every BBC channel plus stuff in England I've never heard of. It's just a great site. This is a fabulous tip. Do they have Korea, the Korean news lady? North Korea? That's a good question. Yeah, North Korea. We got North Korea. Here we go. North Korean Central TV. That's a good question. Yeah, North Korea. We got North Korea. Here we go. North Korean Central TV
Starting point is 03:22:10 I got bars and tone on Pyongyang That is an amazing tip I'm not now you thought I was deep into my code I'm gonna be playing with this for the rest of the day That is amazing. He's North Korea, Korean central television. What a great tip. Another fantastic tip, John, you have outdone yourself. I mean, every single time it just keeps on getting better. You're like a fine wine, my friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:22:36 The fine wine of tips. It is John C. Dvorak's tip of the day. Tip of the day.net. Noagendafun.com. Well now, you've outdone yourself on that one. And of course the question is, did you click on all the A's and the B's before you finally got to Canada to find that hack channel? Is that what you were doing with your time? That was just a random walk. I hit the hack channel by accident.
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