No Agenda - 1754 - "Yippy"

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

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She looks like she stinks. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, April 10th, 2025. This is your award-winning Cuba Nation Media Assassination episode 1754. This is No Agenda. What goes up must come down. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country

here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're all watching the cabinet meeting. I'm John C. Dvorak. This is Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. You're not supposed to be watching television

during the show. Is it the cabinet meeting or is it another version, another episode of The Apprentice? Oh boy. Did you see any of this? Yeah, I episode of the apprentice. Oh boy. Did you see any of this? Yeah, I saw some of it. What about it? What about it?

Well, a couple of things. One is the apprentice. Yeah. And it's like, all it is is a bunch of cabinet members telling Trump, what a great job he's doing and how everybody's great on the cabinet. And we all love each other. And it's unfortunate or fortunate or unfortunate, I think it's made, it's setting a precedent

where now every president who comes after Trump is going to have to do these live events. We got to do an Instagram live, baby. Of course. That's the most transparent government in history. It's tedious. And you know, everybody's, it was just a, I don't know, I found the thing to be so staged and phony that it was like, it was an eye roller. Well, throughout the past few days, I just kept getting this feeling

and seeing what people are emailing me and hearing people around me. And of course it's all coming from the M5M. Everything's, we got charts, we got numbers, we got red, we got green, we got up, we got down, we got panic, we got, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It reminds me of COVID. People are being psy-op, they are upset, they're being spun up,

they don't know what's going on, they don't understand it. All the experts are contradicting each other. In fact, it's showing up in reports, including this one little ditty, which keeps coming back time and again. Consumer confidence dropped sharply this week following Steve drops on Wall Street amid President Trump's historic tariffs. Today, Trump announced that 90-day pause on some of the tariffs, but tariffs on Chinese products now stand at 125%.

Bottom line, everyday items are expected to cost more within weeks or months take iPhones for example Tech analysts predict they would triple in price if Apple moved its manufacturing operations to the US which is one Intended purpose of the tariffs or did you hide joining us now live in studio with a look at how the threat of higher prices Is prompting shoppers to stock up now did ya yeah people are really concerned We asked our friends on Facebook about it and received about 500 comments. The news has now resorted to asking their friends on Facebook and received about 500 comments many people say they aren't changing their behavior, but some tell us they are so concerned

about possible price increases, they are now resorting to panic buying. We're scared to death. We're retired. We're watching our savings going down the tube. We don't know what to expect next. Down the tube. It's confusing.

Confusing and leading some to stock up or even panic buy. Panic buy. I just bought a ton of coffee yesterday. It has chicory in it, which helps the acid in the coffee not affect my stomach. So yeah, I just ordered two more cans yesterday. Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wine. Can you stop the clip for a second? I just had to throw in a little, uh, um.

Color. Color commentary. Color commentary. factoid. Chicory is put in coffee. I knew you would focus on the chicory. Of course, of course, you're JCD, of course you do. Tell us about the chicory. Chicory is put in coffee into lousy, non-robust, like like the robusto, the crappy beans

to make the coffee palatable. It's got nothing to do with stomach acids or anything like that. It might have an effect like that, but chicory is a way to take cheap, crappy tasting coffee and make it palatable. That's the reason you use it. And sometimes, yeah okay, I like to taste the chicory, so I use it. I mean, okay. I like to taste the chicory. So I use it

I don't I mean I don't personally you could put salt in it. You get the same effect There's a bunch of things you can do but this lady this lady had one lame eye, you know She was perfect when I was gonna go Yeah, well that's always but there's a common theme in these reports six more cans yesterday viewers on Facebook Tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wines, chocolate chips and cocoa powder, as well as car parts and new tires. I feel like I'm back in COVID again. Nobody knows what's going on, what's going to happen.

That's exactly it. Now we have not gone to panic buying toilet paper, but it seems for some reason I didn't have. Yes,'t have coming oh well the way the media is playing this but they cannot help themselves with this one example over and over and over again could Americans soon be paying several thousand dollars for a new iPhone Apple's landmark smartphone is set to be impacted by Donald Trump's tariffs. I mean everyone has this example your iPhone is going to cost $3,500. Guess what? We'll buy an Android. We don't. It's like I think the news media are worried about their iPhone. Oh if I

don't have the newest iPhone yeah and then I won't be cool and I can't have a green bubble. I've got to have a blue bubble. I gotta have an iPhone. Oh Trump. You're ruining my iPhone purchase as most are assembled in China Second you're exactly right. In fact, a lot of the Android phones are built in Korea Thank you, and I have one that cost seventy five dollars, which was just fine. It's a smartphone. You got jipped you paid too much So everyone's all bent out of shape because of the. OK, good catch. We're now subject to a

one-entire reports about the iPhone. 104% import duty. Some analysts say Apple's costs could rise as much as 43%. If that's passed on to the consumer, the top of the line iPhone 16 Pro Max would go from a $1,600 retail price to nearly $2,300. I would not pay $2,300 for an iPhone for any reason.

No. No. Apple's top supplier in China. All right, now here's another report. Well, China has actually from the start mentioned negotiations or talking with the Americans from the start. But right now they are demanding a bit of respect first. So at this stage, no breakthrough on the horizon.

Tensions are extremely high. Neither side backing down in numbers. Beijing has escalated as much as the US responding in kind to their tariffs, you know, 34% and now 50% so far. The United States though insists that the playing field was vastly skewered in the first place because of that trade deficit they have. Without a breakthrough though, we are heading towards a much nastier trade war than anything we've seen before.

It's really difficult to see the end of the tunnel. Donald Trump's way of speaking is certainly not considered to be very diplomatic in the eyes of the Chinese. Beijing has now announced travel advisories to its citizens visiting the US as well as telling overseas students that conduct... If you get this report, this is France 24, is the lady in China, but wait, it's coming. ...safety risk assessments... All this talk, everything, all this talk, what's the result? Deciding whether or not they should continue studying in the US. China is arguably the only country that can really hold its ground when it comes to dealing

with the humiliating rhetoric coming from... Humiliating. ...rather than the smaller economies who are having to sign up to strike deals with Donald Trump. Beijing is standing firm for now, so diplomatic tensions have escalated. But of course, it's neither in the US nor in China's interest to let the situation get out of hand any further. US tariffs on Chinese goods will ultimately hurt US consumers. Just think of the price of the iPhone that will inevitably rise as for China. I mean, what is this? Is that the only thing that's going to be affected?

Is that truly the problem? And every hoi polloi rich money person, although not necessarily hoi polloi or rich, but Andrew Horowitz, they all say the same thing. Well, I like the charves. I don't like how he's doing it. I don't like how he's doing it. He could have done a little more subtle. I don't like how he's doing it. I don't like how he's doing it. He could have done a little more subtle.

I don't like how he's doing it. He's not a nice man. He's not showing respect. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm sick of it. And then here's the new one. This is the new one. Oh, oh boy.

You heard Horowitz's feelings. I heard him. He wouldn't even... He is so mad. When you did the typical plug for No Agenda, he didn't throw in the Sunday and Thursday. That's true. Good point. Yeah, I listened to the show.

He's steaming mad. He's mad. Trump. Well, let's stop for a second. I got to defend him. I love Andrew, but still. Here's the deal. He has to take nothing but grief, you know,

24 hour a day grief. What happened in my portfolio? You fucked me. It's your fault. You shouldn't have told me to sell. It's your, where's my money? I mean, this is basically the worst job in the world. If you world if you have a situation like this so he's angry. Listen to this. Tina put her retirement money with Horowitz years ago. She said, I got a note from Andrew. It was like a letter to all his clients. It was, I just deleted it. I don't want to see it.

She said, I don't care. I don't want to see it, I don't care. Just like, yeah, he's, I understand. It's not easy for him. It's not easy. But it seems like the only people who are mad are people who can afford iPhones and people who have portfolios. And this is the latest, this is- This is a good point.

Well, that's what's going on. This is Wall Street versus Main Street. And the president has chosen for Main Street. But Wall Street is trying to make Main Street super afraid. The COVID is going to get you. It's going to kill granny. You won't have any toilet paper. This is what's happening again and I'm sick of it.

Here's Ari Melbourne from MAssemblée3. This is another thing they're doing now. There isn't a red or blue America when a president's policies wipe out what you see here, part of the six trillion dollar losses in days. And losses, you know, no one understands losses. Isn't it like, oh, I just dropped six trillion dollars and someone rode over it with a truck and it's gone. No, it's it's value of paper. Stop it.

Everyone loses. Everyone loses my iPhone. New evidence right now showing the backlash to Trump's flailing trade war. That backlash is broad from the bankers and CEOs. I mentioned quoted some here at the top of the show to political leaders in both parties. Now then there are still many people who of course avoid traditional credentialed press. Yeah, people who are smart, who don't want to listen to your blather. This is what CNBC looks like if you turn it on on the screen here, but people may not

see that kind of news coverage of the tanking markets. There are people who consume alternative younger media. That is a cultural matter. It's a no, it's not a cultural matter. It's because M5M, you Ari Melbourne suck. People have gone to alternative media, not just a cultural matter. No, we don't want to watch MSNBC. That's for the elites with $3,500 future iPhones.

Or what you've heard about some of these MAGA-friendly podcasts. Oh streaming shows. And that's a political. Oh, MAGA-friendly podcasts and streaming shows. Uh-oh and a different set of voices rules. Let's be clear. Many of them speak to their audience in an unfiltered, authentic way in real time.

That's part of what draws their audience. Now they have mega credentials. It should tell you something. What's a mega credential? Well, let me get my wallet out. I want my, I want my pass. What's a MAGA cred... I don't know. Hey, let me get my wallet out. I want my, I want my pass. Where's my MAGA credential?

I want some MAGA. It's next to your boomer Zionist shill diploma. Believe me, it's there. Okay, there it is. It's there. I'm showing you they have this past talk about supporting Trump's promise for the country, but many of them are now sharing with their huge audiences, which can number in the millions or tens of millions in the case of Rogan, who I showed earlier.

Well many of the ones you're about to see, they're sharing concern, panic, confusion, and even disgust over the cost of Trump's flailing trade war. So let's hear some examples. Everyone used the same ones. And it's interesting that they all try to shoehorn Rogan in there, but Rogan has actually not said anything about this at all so far. But here's an actual news report from Europe. During the presidential campaign, they were considered crucial in helping Donald Trump

win votes among young men. They're turning on him. Now conservative podcasters are joining some of the president's billionaire backers in voicing doubts over his tariff policies. Well, yeah, these guys are rich, these conservative MAGA credential podcasters. No wonder. Ben Shapiro, who has 7 million subscribers on YouTube and…

Ben Shapiro, hold on, stop the presses. Ben Shapiro has traditionally been a never-Trumper. He's hated the guy since day one. He kind of, he had to kind of come over to the Trump side because of the popularity but there's no, but Ben Shapiro's never been a Trumper. He's hated Trump from the get-go. You are not in service of Franz Van Catra. You are not the one getting the clips? Huh? All I need is one clip to prove the point? ...Piro, who has 7 million subscribers on YouTube

and lended his support to Trump, said he wasn't against import taxes as a way to leverage other countries, but he did take issue with the mixed messaging about the tariffs end goal. And this is the possibility that is retailed by President Trump and many other members of the administration. And that is the idea that is retailed by President Trump and many other members of the administration.

And that is the idea that tariffs are good. Trade wars are good and easy to win. Tariffs themselves are good and make us rich. The idea that this is inherently good and makes the American economy strong is wrong-headed. It's wrong-headed! Dave Portnoy is another media figure who's unhappy with how the measures have played out. The owner of Barstool Sports, which counts 1.8 million YouTube

subscribers, endorsed Trump in 2016 and interviewed him at the White House in 2020. On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20 million from his investment portfolio. I don't know, like 10%, 15% of my net worth, poof. But I'm still here. Well, hold on, stop. Do you do the math on this?

This guy's got $200 million. Exactly. On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20 million from his investment portfolio. I don't know, like 10-15% of my net worth, poof. But I'm still here. That's the game. I'm still standing. I've got $180 million left. I'm here people, don't worry about it. I'm not going to That's the game. I'm still standing. I've got 180 million left.

I'm here people. Don't worry about it. I'm not going to go down without a fight. Like, do I like it? No. Am I crying? Am I like, oh, whoa, it's me. I wish I voted for Kamala.

No. Do I wish this didn't go down like this? Yes. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan, who boasts 16.4 million subscribers on YouTube, said in March that Trump's trade feud with Canada was stupid. While he was campaigning last year, Trump appeared on Rogan's podcast for a nearly three-hour interview, and Rogan endorsed the Republican on the eve of the election. But in January, the UFC commentator said he was not affiliated with a political party,

and more recently he criticized the Trump administration's deportations of alleged gang members when one turned out to be a gay Venezuelan makeup artist. I thought it was a hairdresser so they don't even have anything. Now he's a gay, now he's a makeup artist. So they don't even have a current clip from Rogan but they're just pulling everything out, everything they can and they're putting fear into people and tell them to go panic by with the one-eyed, droopy-eyed lady like, oh, I have to get more chicory coffee. These are minor things. And now we need to get some analysis. I know that you're the much smarter person in this.

So I have question number one with a very short clip. Because this was, I think, we discussed back in March, hey, maybe he's trying to drive the bond market down so that he'll be able to refi the country at a cheaper rate, which is nine trillion that has to be refied this year, including two trillion, I believe, this month. And then this happens. US government bonds are traditionally seen as a safe haven in times of turmoil but this sell-off is shaking that view.

Investors are dumping longer dated treasuries and even the benchmark 10-year bond is getting hit. Market participants say that hedge funds are at the heart of the purge. They need to cover losses on some of their highly leveraged bets, but there could be other more fundamental triggers at play. Concerns that tariffs will drive inflation and prevent the Fed from cutting interest rates, and that foreign investors will dump US Treasuries in retaliation for tariffs. So the bond market all of a sudden skyrocketed. That was not supposed to happen when the market tanks. What happened?

What do you mean by skyrocketing? The interest rates going up or down or the bond prices going up or down? No, the bond prices went down, but the interest rates went up. Yeah. That was not part of the theory. What theory? The theory that Trump was doing all this to refinance at lower rates.

Oh yeah, no, that's because this probably wasn't the case. You may be closer to the reality with the trillion dollar coin. So I think about the surprise that I had when I heard this. Let me see. Because this is, I had not heard this term. Let's see, where is it? Well, we talked about on the show, maybe a couple months ago,

and all of a sudden Nicole Wallace of all people, which is hard to watch oh had a lace like she's about to break into tears all the time she's got that droopy look and she's just I can't watch her she looks like she's not showered you know she's like kind of oh yeah definitely she looks like she stinks now no John no I mean that's what she looks like. She looks stanky. Yes, it does.

She looks stanky. So she had Charlotte Howard of The Economist on and I was surprised to hear Charlotte from The Economist all of a sudden mimicking a podcaster like us. What are the theories that folks from the business community have about why Trump is doing this? Doug said that there's no explanation, there's no rationale, Trump hasn't articulated a goal and without a goal, there's no way of knowing when it's been achieved, you know, when it will end.

Why do business people think he's doing this? Well, I think it depends on the business person, right? But there's one theory that has been bouncing around now for some time, which has to do with this idea of a Mar-a-Lago accord, right? But there's one theory that has been bouncing around now for some time, which has to do with this idea of a Mar-a-Lago accord, right? So a purposeful devaluing of the dollar. And so if you squint it, it's kind of like looking at a pile of dirt and trying to see a Picasso. So the strategy there would be that you impose deep tariffs, the dollar is devalued in trade negotiations that makes American exports more competitive. And you also squeeze China because China holds a lot of debt.

As the dollar becomes cheaper, you're exerting pressure on China. Now I don't think that would work at all. Very few economists think it would work. And what are the side effects or the grave knock on effects? You have huge inflation for American consumers. You have a declining dollar. You have declining American influence within the broader global economy. So it's just a giant misplaced bet. But if you try to understand an underlying rationale that might be one guess. I don't think it's a good strategy, but it's one way

of looking at it. So I think she actually convinced me this is the way to go. We need to devalue the daughter or whatever she said. Daughter. Devalue the daughter. You know, it's like we've been talking about Mar-a-Lago Accords, i.e. a new Bretton Woods. If you are the reserve currency of the world, I mean, unless you can roll out those stable coins, which would have to come next,

you know, what you call the true end dollar coin. The thesis behind the stable coin is better than anything she said. Right, but it could be a Marlowe core. But you don't want to devalue the dollar to an extreme. No, but down a little bit would be okay, wouldn't it? Yeah, what goes up and down is, it's been as low, like right now I think it's a buck nine or a buck ten. No, it's one, oh euros, yeah, I'm just talking about the...

Well versus the euros really what the benchmark is for devaluing the dollar. Oh really, not against anything else is the euro? The euro would be the benchmark. Well that's 112 today. Okay, well then it's been as high as 120 is the euro. The euro would be the benchmark. Well that's 112 today. Okay well then it's been as high as 120. Yeah because oh so the DXY is at 100 that's the lowest I've seen it in months so the devaluation is happening. I mean just a little bit. And Scott Besant we have to remember this was you did notice this on the DHM plug show where We have to remember this was, you did notice this on the D.H.M. Plug show where Horowitz tried to trick me as if I didn't know this. I heard you just waiting for him to say it, waiting, waiting.

It was like Glenn Beck, he's like, well you know who you work for, don't you? Yeah, of course, Soros. I think we talked about it on this show. Yes, yes. It's proof. He's an acolyte. Is proof. Is the right word. It's proof that Horowitz no longer listens to us. He can't stand it. He can't stand us anymore. Wow, you're probably right. Yes, he's been an

acolyte of Soros, but not politically, not like a political ally, which is we always have to. Loyalists, loyalists. A guy who knows how to manipulate currency. And that's the guy you want. And take advantage of it. Yeah, that's the guy you want. Here's a 30 second clip of said Scott Besant. The successful negotiating strategy that President Trump implemented a week ago today, it has brought more than 75 countries forward to negotiate.

It's a great courage, great courage, for him to stay the course until this moment. These are complicated negotiations. These are imbalances that have taken decades to create. And, but I think having seen the maximum level that Donald Trump is willing to go to, President Trump has created this negotiating leverage. I mean, I have friends who have small businesses and they email me, this guy's no good. We don't need a game show host as a president. We need leadership.

Where is the Epstein file? I swear to God. I have to be on that side of the argument too. I'm in agreement, but it's like, is that the mo- and so you have a small business, you're worried about what's happening, but the first thing you talk about is the Epstein and JFK files. Okay. So people are being spun up and I think it is our job- no, it is our duty,

just like during COVIDat to calm people down It's said the media and five M is going nuts and that includes a lot of wealthy podcasters No Because a lot of you are they going that nuts. I don't know. Well, I'm talking about the podcasters Are they going that nuts? I don't know. Well... I'm talking about the podcasters. Yeah. I mean the fact that Portnoy... I mean for one thing, if you're a podcast...

Portnoy to say he lost 20 million bucks and it's 10% of his portfolio, it's just like, why would you... You know, this is like... Look how much money I got. I mean it's just not... It's gauche. It's very...

Gauche is the correct word. Gauche. And by the way, Rogan just not it's it's it's gauche. It's very gauche is the correct word gauche And by the way, Rogan's not in that camp. They just drag him in although he said nothing of the sword Oh, well, we're Rogan didn't like the gay hairdresser. Okay No, no makeup artist. I'm sorry make it now. I'm confused Why don't we just say the gay, that he deported the gay. It doesn't matter what the gay. I mean. So let's go to some.

I've got some clips. Yes. Let's get some analysis. Let's get some analysis. Do tell me. And this is from guess where. Ladies and gentlemen, live from London, we bring you more clips on the No Agenda Show that you never want to hear.

That's right. We bring you more clips on the No Agenda Show that you never want to hear. That's right, the BBC World Service gives you the correct analysis of what is happening in your world. Expertly clipped for your convenience by John C. DeMora on the No Agenda Show. Okay, we're ready. You know, I think it's, besides that being a bit long. It's a little long. I would say, the thing, the little kicker in there that people don't appreciate, I do, is the beep, beep, beep, because that's what they have at the beginning.

It's classic. Times Scott and they beep, beep, beep. It's classic. They're just stupid beeping. I can shorten it. I just like filling it up on the fly. It makes me feel like a discajockey. Yeah, a discajockey. Yes.

So let's start with just the basic news stories. This is the Tariff War BBC. Oh, okay. Tariff War BBC. Here we go. If you ever needed proof that President Trump can suddenly change his mind on the big issues, take today's decision on his landmark economic policy tariffs, having effectively declared a trade war on most of the rest of the world and wiped several trillion off share values on the international markets, Donald Trump took to social media two and a half hours ago to announce a 90-day pause on all tariffs over and above his 10% baseline. So all the individually applied extra tariffs are on hold except those on

China. That other global economic superpower is the big exception now. President Trump has raised the rate on goods from China to 125% effective immediately. A short time ago the President spoke to the media and he was asked to explain the thinking behind his 90-day pause. Well I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line, they were getting yippy, you know, they were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit afraid unlike these champions because we have a big job to do. No other president would have done what I did. No other president. I know the presidents, they wouldn't have done it. And it had to be done. What was happening to us on trade, not only with, you know, if you look at it, not only

with China, but China was by far the biggest abuser in history and others also, but somebody had to do it. They had to stop because it was not sustainable. Last year, China made $1 trillion off trade with the United States. That's not right. And now I've reversed it. It's for a short period of time, but we made $2 billion. We're making now $2 billion a day and somebody had to do it.

They got a little bit yippy. Yippee. Yeah, let's go. I didn't, might as well explain that term. Is that the golf term? No, it's well, yeah, it's a golf term, but it's also a, the gymnastics uses it a lot. Oh yeah, the yips, you got the yips.

You get the yips, which means you, you, you all of a sudden start thinking about the fact that you're flying in the air and you're out of control and you could kill yourself. Yeah, on that bar. Yeah. And so you decide, you get nervous and you're out of control and you could kill yourself. Yeah, on that bar. So you decide, you get nervous and you start thinking about what you're doing instead of just doing it. Yeah, that's what Michelle was saying. I think he was talking in front of the LA Dodgers

when he was giving this press conference. So he was like that, you're using some technicalities. Sports analogy, yes. Some sports stuff. Some sports stuff, yes. But what's interesting is about this 90 day pause is that that was the rumor, I think the day or the day before that, that jacked the market

up 1,500 points at the opening. It says, oh, he's going to give a 90 day pause, a jacked weapon. Then they had to come out with this comment, no, no, no, we're not. No, we're in fact, we're going to do this and that. Caroline Leavitt had to say something and it sunk the market. So this was in play. So this, this rumor that came out a couple of days early was already, this was all schemed. In fact, the clip that I don't have.

I have a question. Was Horowitz in on the gambit? Did he buy when it skyrocketed? Did he go short when it tanked? No, he's too busy complaining. I'm going to get a call. Yeah, maybe. I'm going to get a call. Maybe.

Well, I think you're justified in the commentary that he didn't plug the show. Maybe. Well, I think, I think you're, you're justified in the commentary that he didn't plug the show. So, to plug the show or your, your, your ass is grass Horowitz. So the, um, the point is, is that, and I don't have the clip and you didn't, I probably don't have it. I wish we had it, which is that Scott Bessent, uh, his commentary that this whole thing was, was a grand scheme. Was planned. Yes, I don't have it. It was planned. And I think it was because of the fact that a couple of days earlier, it jacked the market up and then it disappeared because somebody leaked it. But the whole thing was a scheme to trap. And Besant said, they used the word trap, the Chinese, trap them.

It was a bear trap. No, bear trap is specific to the market. Yeah, that's what I said. It was just a trap. It was just a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap.

It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap.

It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a trap. It was a bear trap. No bear trap is specific to the market. Yeah, that's what I said. It was just to trap them into a situation where they look like the bad guys. And I think it worked and I think it's gonna work out that way. But as we get through these BBC clips where there's analysis coming up from again, this is interesting, again from the economist, up from again, this is interesting. Again, from the economy and the economist person.

Oh, interesting. From the, the magazine. And I, as soon as they announced this, oh, this is going to be some good anti-Trump stuff. But no, it wasn't, it turns out. But let's listen to this part two of the basic overview. Mr. Trump gave more details on how this latest decision would affect different countries. I did a 90-day pause for the people that didn't retaliate because I told them if you retaliate, we're going to double it. And that's what I did with China because they did retaliate.

So we'll see how it all works out. I think it's going to work out amazing. I think that our country is going to be at the end of a year or shorter. But I think we're going to have something that nobody would have dreamt possible. He was asked whether chaos on the bond markets had influenced his thinking. Bond market is very tricky. I was watching it, but if you look at it now, it's beautiful. The bond market right now is beautiful. Beautiful. But yeah, I saw last night where people were getting a little queasy. Well the big move wasn't what I did today, the big move was what I did on Liberation Day. We had Liberation Day in America, we were liberated from all of the horrible deals

that were made. So countries around the world are suddenly having to rethink their responses to what had been and probably what still is being threatened. There is more time to negotiate, but was this a climb down or a deliberate strategy? And how is it being perceived in Washington? I talked to Jake Kwan, who's the BBC's North America correspondent in the US Capitol. Jake Kwan, BBC North America Correspondent Well, the White House would certainly love to present this as a masterful stroke, that it is not a capitulation. There has been growing calls by the industry leaders and financial investors and even some

of the Republican congressmen and women who has been voicing their concern at this terrible and the trade war that's happening. But the White House's message is that all the world, the 75 countries around the world are crawling to the White House, crawling to Mr. know all the world the 75 countries are on the world are are Crawling to the White House to crawling to mr. Trump trying to get a better deal something that will be advantageous To the u.s. And that he is a master negotiator and these tariffs has been the plan all along To get a deal for the u.s. And of course all this is is a response to the allies coming to the u.s. With a goodwill Of course, all this is a response to the allies coming to the US with a good will. Before you continue with the analysis, may I just play a short classic clip since the president keeps saying that he's the only one who had the guts?

Which is arguably true, but they're... I'm just going to say before you play that I want to say something about this last clip. Sure. you play that I want to say something about this last clip. When Trump said, this is what bothers me about the mainstream media. They're not paying attention. When Trump says, well, we just did the, uh, we're doing a 98 thing to see who is going to retaliate. We're going to jack it up on them. They're going to screw over the, anyone who tries to retaliate.

And then the Chinese of course retaliated. What's never mentioned is that the Europeans retaliated too. Well, that's, you know, the Europeans retaliated to well, that's You know, but where's where's why isn't he doing it to them too? You know if that's what he says it what he says is true They're always trying to catch him in a lie or something and there was a wide open one right here right down the middle of the Plate to use a sports analogy and nobody says anything about it. Well, what it actually was, so the Europeans retaliated to the initial, because they, I have a clip on it if you want to pause before the analysis, I can wait until after your BBC stuff, whatever you want to do.

No, no, go, you play your clips. This is a very awkward situation for the European Union. President Trump said the reason he was pausing the extra tariffs, the tariffs beyond 10% for all of the 60 naughty countries except China, was because no one retaliated except China. The problem is the EU did retaliate. Just yesterday, national governments took a vote approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of US imports and

those are supposed to take effect on Tuesdays. This is France 24. American media did not pick this up. No of course not and but it's funny when you hear what actually happened. Approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of US imports and those are supposed to take effect on Tuesday. However, those retaliatory tariffs are not for the 20% liberation day tariffs that Trump unveiled last week. It's a delayed reaction to the 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum that Trump had put in place in February.

Essentially, it's just kind of a coincidence that the vote took place yesterday. You see what happened there? Yeah, that's a good bit. Yeah. Okay. Well, if you just want to Is there is there is there way out? Good one. Well, yeah. They have lots of problems. But let's go back to your BBC and I'll play other stuff later. I want to hear your analysis clips because this is anus stuff.

Yeah, so they bring this guy in from the... This is actually pretty good because I think all these three clips here, they're all... The joke is, of course, they do bring the Apple thing back. Of course. Your iPhone's going to go... Hey, how about this? How about Apple just takes half the profits? Oh boy. Yeah, because their margins are ridiculous as it is. Yes, because they have slave labor in China. Yeah. Pay your fair share, elites. Well, actually, there's four

clips here. They're short, but one of them is long is long here we go there might be a reprieve on tariffs for other sovereign nations but for China things have got worse with the US import charge raised immediately to 125% I asked David Rennie in Washington how Beijing would react to being singled out in such a dramatic fashion he's geopolitics editor at The Economist magazine and he was in the Chinese capital last week talking to scholars and government officials. I think there is a political logic to this that Donald Trump came to office believing that globalisation has been a terrible deal for America going back decades and by far the biggest offender is China and that's been a consistent position of his. So I don't

think this should surprise us. And I think it certainly doesn't surprise the Chinese. But why should China plan any specific policy in response when it's now clear that President Trump could change his mind in the next hour? So Chinese officials and Chinese scholars say that that is the hardest thing for their system to deal with. China likes to plan. it likes five-year plans, and it finds it very hard to deal with this mercurial transactional American president. That said, they had plenty of warning that he might well be back in the White House and that he was campaigning on threats of imposing big tariffs on China. So they've been preparing really carefully for a long time.

I believe that to be true. Yes. Yeah. They knew what was going on. But you're right. The media wants to make, and it's working because people I know and respect are saying, he's just a game show host. He's just doing what he does. Nobody's doing, he's just making stuff up and pulling it off and doing it.

It's so much more sophisticated. Oh yeah, by far it's beyond immediate comprehension. Well, you guys, no slouch. You have to be brilliant. You've got to have a big brain. Next. They've been doing short-term America-specific defensive kind of preparations and some longer-term sort of attempts to reshape and rebalance their entire economy away from a sort of incredibly

high dependence on exports. So if you look at the short-term America defenses, they've been sort of getting ready. When I was in Beijing, we were told that nine different government ministries and agencies had been looking if we need to hit back at an American tariffs, what can we target that is going to hurt Trump voters and get Trump's attention and we can buy that stuff from somewhere else. So they chose soybeans is a classic example. It's grown in farm states in the Midwest of America full of Trump voters. And in fact, you know, China used to buy a lot of American soybeans, but they can get them from Brazil.

They can get from Argentina. As it happens, the tariffs came in at such a high level that actually China's response has been pretty much across the board retaliatory tariffs on American goods and some pretty tough shots across the bows of some American companies that are now being investigated by Chinese regulators. Once you start going down that path, you realize that China can actually impose really serious pain on some of the most important companies in America. Take Apple, which is incredibly dependent on China as a place to make things like iPhones, but also as an important market. They haven't gone after Apple yet, but everyone knows that

that's the kind of thing China could do if this gets really rough. I got to tell you, I really don't care about Apple. It's like they've been riding high for so long. They're hoity-toity. They think they're poop-toasting. I really, I mean, sorry for the people who are there for their options, but come on. Just like they're printing money in Cupertino, printing it. Take one for the team, Apple.

Well, Dell is another company that's highly invested in China. I think a lot of their laptops and other products are made there. I think HP's, this stuff comes out of China, of course. I'll buy a gateway. Who owns those? They're not even in business that I know of. Remember the cow computer gateway. And then who else is there?

Tesla's got a big factory there. They can get rid of them. Of course, UIDs eat pretty much anyway. Well, I mean, they have Walmart and they've got big outfits there in Wuhan. The Chinese have got us over a barrel if they wanted to really do some damage. But as this guy continues, there's some geopolitical issues that China must be aware of, at least he thinks so. So there's a lot left in their arsenal in terms of how they could hit the US economically. What about rare earths? They have a global monopoly on some of those.

Yes, China has a near monopoly on the processing of rare earths. And some of those are incredibly important in not just green tech, but also satellites, high-end electronics, all kinds of modern technologies need those rare earths. So that's a real threat. So those are all the defensive measures that China is willing to make if it has to against America. And the other thing we've seen from the Chinese is a really strong propaganda push internally that China need not be terrified of this, that the sky won't fall. That was the language you saw from the most important Communist Party

mouthpiece, the People's Daily newspaper. And their argument is, look, you know, after years of decoupling, going back to the first Trump administration, America is an important market for Chinese exports, but it's not nearly as important as it was. It's now below 15% of Chinese exports. So we have no real way of knowing how far President Trump will take this big fight with China. Should we take Beijing at its word when it says it will fight to the end? I think actually the strange thing is that although the tariffs are unbelievably high and the rhetoric is extremely fierce, I don't think we should exclude the possibility that the

two countries end up trying to cut some sort of deal. Remember we saw them cutting a deal. It didn't really work out in the end in the first Trump administration. But I think that beneath the bluster and beneath the domestic politics, both countries do have an interest in climbing down from this. Of course. Of course. And all the Chinese have is, you're not respectful.

You're not speaking respectful to us. We're not going to talk to you, you bully. That's all they're saying. Trump has made it clear that they're going to talk. Of course. Of course. Which will be important to a lot of iPhone owners. It's all about the iPhone. That's all anyone talks about.

I don't get it. Well, I guess that's the only thing they can do. The fact is, start looking at the products around you. Yes. No, you're right. It's not the iPhone that's the only thing they can do. I mean, the fact is, if you go start looking at the products around you. Yes. No, you're right. It's not the iPhone that's the issue, believe me. No, but the iPhone is the one thing. This is the way I read it.

People who have an iPhone, and let's face it, a lot of Americans have an iPhone. It's a status symbol. It's something you need to have. It's an overpriced status symbol. Yes. And the minute you say you won't be able to afford it, people care about that. I think people would rather buy an iPhone than toilet paper. I'm telling you.

That's because, yeah, you take a look around you. Yeah, sure. Okay. So I can't have a new big flat screen TV. So I can't have some cheap clothes that are toxic. I don't hear anyone talking about the stuff that, oh, what am I going to do without that? Your computer.

Who needs it? Who needs it? I don't need a computer. The keyboard is made in China. I have a computer. The mouse is in China. I have a computer. The mouse is in China. Yeah, when you need to replace the keyboard, you're going to pay 300 bucks for it.

Oh, really? 300 bucks? I don't think so. It's not going to be 300 bucks. Your point is made, but it's like, okay, so we'll just buy less crap from China. I just don't see it. We've gotten hooked on Chinese plastic opioids.

We've gotten hooked on China. Yes. The iPhone is just one small element, but here's the interesting clip. This is the, I think, kind of a kicker here, which will result in some deal being done. And China also has the additional problem that if America really stays closed off to Chinese exports, those exports are going to have to go somewhere else. And China is already very concerned, I was told in Beijing, by the idea that they could end up really alienating and aggravating places like Europe, even partners in Latin America, the Global

South, because if a tidal wave of Chinese exports ends up swamping those markets and damaging employment and jobs in lots of countries around the world because it can't be sold in America, that's a massive diplomatic and geopolitical headache for the Chinese leadership. We don't coordinate these things, but the clip I have lined up is exactly that. Yesterday we had a phone call between EU President Ursula von der Leyen and the Chinese premier specifically about how to avoid dumping of products from China. So that would be products that China was intending to, Chinese companies were intending to export to the United States.

Many will now be diverted and a lot will come here to the European Union. And if they all get dumped onto the market, that could be a major problem. to on preventing that from happening. So tell me about this dumping. What happens, first of all, so China has product, they can't send it to the US, so they send it cheap to the EU. What exactly happens in this scenario? Yeah, there you go. You just nailed it. That's exactly what happens.

And then what happens in the EU? Then they swamp the EU, businesses go out, because the EU's protectionist in a different way than we are. And they got labor unions that are different than ours and they have different kind of complaining and they could get a revolution. I mean, they can have all hell break loose here.

Explain it, explain what happens. So you dump the products, take me all the way through what happens in Europe when that, when that takes place. But you say you dump a bunch of, for example, Chinese porcelain, place. But you say you dump a bunch of, for example, Chinese, porcelain, the whole Europeans make, you know, Lemos and all these guys make different kinds of porcelain products. And the Chinese all of a sudden dump dishes,

dishware into France like cause they got to get rid of it somewhere. And it just puts these little guys out of business and it causes a disruption in the, in the ecosystem of the government and the, and the, and it's a relation to the businesses. I mean, it just causes, it's just not good. It's bad. So that's a backdoor little gotcha that, that is taking place because of this. Yeah. It's putting it on sharp.

Obviously the economics, the guy from the economist is aware of it. The Chinese, cause he says he got this information from Beijing, because they're the professors and whoever the ministers are that are just talking to him. They're all, everyone's aware of this problem and you have the clip to even back that up, because Vandaline is aware of it. This is not acceptable. So, they're going to... So, they have to put cherubs. They have to put,'re going to... So they have to put tariffs. The only respite they have... You would have to drop...

They would just stop. You can also stop importation. Stop importation. Just say no. No, you can't send that here. This is good. This is good. I like this.

It's getting complicated. And so this means that they're going to have to do a deal because we are the big giant market that can suck all this As you put a Chinese junk up Like there's no tomorrow because we just consumers. I'm glad I'm glad you use the suck word Because that is exactly the clip a classic clip. I have they're from Ross Perot. That's right Ross Perot He was the guy who said he was going to do what President Trump is doing right now and they threatened to kill him and that's why he dropped out. I think that's universally known.

They threatened to kill his family. I thought they were threatening to kill his family or something. His family, his dog, everything. Yeah, they sent pictures. Yeah, he dropped out of the race because this and it was believed to be the CIA, but it could have been anybody. Well, he's standing there in this three-way debate, which was incredible at the time,

that an independent had so many votes that he could disrupt either party's election. He's there with Bill Clinton and George Bush, Sr. and this is what he said. If you just want to get out and buy his tax, first thing you ought to do is get all these folks who've got these one-way trade agreements that we've negotiated over the years and say, fellas, we'll take the same deal we gave you. And they'll gridlock right at that point because, for example, we've got international competitors who simply could not unload their cars off the ships if they had to comply. You see, if it was a two-way street, just couldn't do it.

We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. If they had to comply, you see, if it was a two-way street, they just couldn't do it. We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. To those of you in the audience who are business people, it's pretty simple. If you're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers, and you can move your factory south to the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire a young 25-year-old. That's assuming you've been in business for a long time and you've got a mature workforce. Pay a dollar an hour for your labor, have no health care, that's the most expensive single element, making a car, have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement, and you don't care about anything but making money,

there will be a giant sucking sound going south. So if the people send me to Washington, the first thing I'll do is study that 2,000 page agreement and make sure it's a two-way street. That was NAFTA, of course, that he was referring to and he was right. He was right. He was very destructive to our manufacturing base. But now... Yeah, it took Maytag out of the country. But now we have a president who was willing to do this, and I'm sure that there's been a lot of threats to his family and his life for doing this because that's what they do. That's what they do. And he was at this GOP fundraiser, I think it was last night, and he had a couple of

good zingers, but he said, this is the difference. This is what he is. I'm proud to be the president for the workers, not the outsourcers. The president who stands up for Main Street, not Wall Street, who protects the middle class, not the political class, and who defends America, not trade cheaters all over the globe. They're trade cheaters. They cheated on us. They cheated with tariffs on us.

Cheated. They stole our money. They stole our jobs. Yeah, there you go. He cheated with tariffs on us. Cheated. They stole our money. They stole our jobs. Yeah. There you go. He had another. So the real problem here, because that's part of the plan, is the tax, the tax bill. And this has become an issue because he has to pass this A to stop these tax you know this incredible these tax cuts which

have a sunset which will raise everybody's taxes is going to screw everybody not just the wealthy hello mainstream media and Democrats everybody including including little bitty podcasters John and Adam but he also has in there of course it's a it's a perfect balance no tax on Social Security no tax on tips you get to deduct the interest on your car if it's a perfect balance. No tax on social security, no tax on tips. You get to deduct the interest on your car if it's an American-made car and the state and local taxes, including your mortgage deduction will go up. You'll be able to deduct more.

That's a critical piece of it because of course, you will have some inflation, some, I think, real economists say, half a point, maybe a point, it's not going to be so terrible. And you have these what he calls grandstanders, he's looking specifically at Rand Paul, and also disappointingly, Chip Roy of Texas. And but you know, to get there, first he's got to make some jokes. I'm telling you, these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass. They are dying to make a deal. Please, please, make a deal. I'll do anything. I'll do anything, sir.

And then I'll see some rebel Republican, you know, some guy that wants to grandstand, say, I think that Congress should take over negotiations. Let me tell you, you don't negotiate like I negotiate. Congress takes over negotiating. Sell America fast because you're going to go busted. You're going to go busted? Yeah. That's Rand Paul who's waffling about, well, it's a tax and only Congress can do tax.

I actually looked at the legality of it. He's not incorrect, but once the president declares an emergency, economic emergency, then the president can do what he wants to do for a maximum of four years. I looked it all up so he can do this. And so what Rand Paul is trying to do is say, well, we need to pass a bill against the emergency. Well, good luck with that. I don't think Congress can override the president when he invokes an emergency, which is exactly why this language is always used. Economic emergency, national security emergency.

That's why we still have the Patriot Act because of a national security emergency. And then there was still more fun to be had at the expense of Adam Schiff. And that's with all of the difficulties and all of the fake investigations and the Adam shifty shifts. Can you believe this guy? He's got the smallest neck I've ever seen. And the biggest head we call them watermelon head. Hold on that is John Kerry.

That's the wrong name. The wrong guy. I found it to be just as offensive. Very offensive. That's our gag and it's the wrong guy. It's our gag. Wrong guy. Wrong guy.

Biggest said we call them watermelon head would be funnier. What would? Pumpkin head? Yeah, he's got a pumpkin. Kerry has the watermelon head. You're you know, Carrie has the watermelon head. You're right. Schiff has a pumpkin head. And the biggest head, we call them watermelon head. I say, how could that big fat face stand on a neck that looked like this finger?

How can it? It was the weirdest thing. It's a mystery. Nobody can understand it. But he's one of the most dishonest human beings I've ever seen. And you know how we can allow people like that to run an office is a shame, but we did. But this really is the problem. And I'm disappointed in Chip Roy. I mean, is he so simple? He's our representative here. Are you so simple, Chip Roy? You know, is he part of the, what is the caucus, the super conservative?

Oh yeah, I'm there with the caucus. Chip Roy, get with the program. With his iron grip on the Republican party, it's long seemed that Donald Trump could do no wrong in the eyes of the party's elected representatives. But now he may be going too far for some, like Senator Rand Paul. Last week he backed a Democratic Senate resolution against the emergency powers Trump used to impose tariffs on Canada. This is a tax, plain and simple.

Taxes should not be enacted by one person. So I will vote today to end the emergency. I will vote today to try to reclaim the power of taxation, the power of the tariff. He was joined by three other Republican dissenters, former Senate leader Mitch McConnell and Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, who represent states on the border with Canada. That's a nice bunch to be in there, Rand Paul. Now several other Republican senators say they intend to back a bipartisan bill that would put restrictions on Trump's ability to impose tariffs with a sweep of the pen.

Traders. Exactly the kind of Republicans some people we know are like, yeah, let's stop this. Get that pen out of his hands. No good. Bloomberg actually had a... Well, you know, just to stop it for a second, Susan Collins, who's had a stroke,

probably has never been all there for a while. I don't know what her problem is. Murkowski, I can always understand her, because they tried to prime, the Republican Party tried to primary her and get rid of her. And she's very resentful. She's mad. She's mad. Okay. She's just a resentful person and she's like going to vote no on everything. And Mitch McConnell is turning to the fact that he's always kind of a senile, frozen-in-time guy

who hates Trump. He just hates Trump, so he's gonna vote against everybody. But Trump even gave Rand Paul, he gave him a gift because you know the European Union's oh we're gonna we're going to put high tariffs on Kentucky bourbon, which of course is Rand Paul's state. And so Trump said okay 200% tax on your wine and your champagne and they dropped the the tariff on the bourbon. There's something else going on with Rand Paul, obviously. Yeah, you don't, I mean, I have the same- Corruption, it's gotta be corruption. What's that in your mouth level stuff or?

Maybe, I mean, he is a little fruity. He used the word, but he is. Yeah, there's something going on. I don't get it. Like, and why is he going after the... He knows that's... That's... That makes no sense.

He knows he's not going to get that. No, no one's going to vote for... Doesn't make any sense. Bloomberg guy, I think, had a good point here. This morning we have a warning as well from Ray Dalio for investors who may- Ray Dalio, Bloomberg guy, whatever. ...be too fixated on tariffs. Let's get the details on that from Bloomberg's Lisa Mateo. In a post on X, the billionaire founder of Bridgewater Associates said investors are not

paying attention to underlying conditions, the breakdown in major monetary, political, and geopolitical orders, and that failing to do so may blindside them to the biggest disruptions that are still to come. Dalio explained how Trump's tariff policies are driven by too much existing debt and the rate at which new borrowing is added. He said the U.S. is hooked on using debt to finance excessive spending, while creditor countries like China sell goods to debtor nations like the US, and that will lead to a correction of these imbalances and a change in the monetary order. Dalia also notes that gaps in education, opportunity and values are contributing to a breakdown

of the democratic system and the rise of autocratic leaders, while the US is shifting from a multilateral to a unilateral approach in the geopolitical arena. Sounds like he's all in on the Mar-a-Lago Accords. Yeah, I got to change. Trillion dollar coin. Or my favorite, revalue the gold we have. That's my favorite.

There is some, that's another one. That's your favorite. Now I thought the million dollar, the stable coin was your favorite. You changed your favorite? No, the stable coin is what's going to happen. My favorite is we're going to revalue the gold, which by the way, where's my live stream of Fort Knox, Elon? Where's that?

Is that, did they get lost with the Epstein and JFK files? That's a good point. Where's that? I forgot about it too. Where's the gold? Yeah, where is there any gold there? Jfk files? That's a good point. Where's that? I forgot about it too. Where's the gold? Yeah, where is there any gold there? So that's why it's my favorite because we can revalue the gold all we want but if we don't have it, then we're back to stablecoin. This guy was on CNN. I kind of liked him. We need, we need people out there who are positive about this stuff.

So the question is, how do you define redefining as part of it? And one of the ways that you're looking at- How do you define redefine? Well, this is CNN. You want, you want journalistic questions? Go somewhere else. How do you define redefining as part of it? And one of the ways that you're looking at it is in terms of action he's taking.

Yeah, exactly right. I think there was this concern among some folks that Donald Trump would come in for a second term and kind of be a lame duck. He ain't no lame duck. If anything, he's a soaring eagle. What am I talking about here? Let's talk about Trump executive orders in 2025. He's already signed 111 so far. That is the most at this point in a presidency in at least a hundred years. In fact, it's the soaring eagle. believes was his promises on the campaign trail and he's doing so in historic fashion. He's the soaring eagle. Yeah.

But the guy who tops it all, who is, I mean, this is truly just the guy, as far as I'm concerned, who's on a game show known as Shark Tank, is Mr. Wonderful, Kevin O'Leary, who one day he's like, oh yeah, I'm investing a trillion dollars in data centers. I don't see that noise anymore. Yeah we've already got the land, we've already got the power. No, he's got none of that. This guy likes to be on TV. 104% tariffs in China are not enough. I'm advocating 400%. I do business in China. They don't play by the rules. They've been in the WTO for decades. They have never abided by any of the. They've been in the WTO for decades. They have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades.

They cheat, they steal, they steal IP. I can't litigate in their courts. They take product, technology, they steal it, they manufacture it and sell it back here. Never has an administration- Can America take in 400% tariffs? What would that look like? I want Xi on an airplane to Washington to level the playing field. It's just not about tariffs anymore.

Nobody has taken on China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades. As someone who actually does business there, I've had enough. I speak for millions of Americans who have IP that have been stolen by the Chinese. I have nothing against the Chinese people. They brought great literacy, art, restaurants, and tech to the world. The government cheats and steals. And finally, an administration, you may not like Trump, you may not like his style or his rhetoric. Finally, an administration that puts up and says enough. 400% tariffs tomorrow morning.

He'll tell you why. Chi can only stay the supreme leader if people are employed. If we wipe out any business there because we are still 39% of all consumables on earth and 25% of the world's GDP. America is the number one economy on earth with all the cards. We will not have that forever. It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall now. That's a great picture. Squeeze it.

Yeah, I'm glad you got that clip. I saw it and I didn't clip it. Squeeze the Chinese heads into the wall now. I'm glad you got that clip. I saw it and I didn't clip it. Squeeze the Chinese heads into the wall now. Yes. Yeah. He's interesting because he does talk a big game now that the situation has changed somewhat. Yeah. He's a fun guy.

He's fun. I got another one here. I mean, if you just want to know what regular folk watch on the conservative side, although I see a lot of conservatives freaking out about this, about this stupid president, what's he doing? Because they're watching financial news, they're watching your guy over there, Charles Barkley, what's his name? Charles Payne?

Yeah, Charles Payne. Charles Barkley, what's his name? Charles Payne? Yeah, Charles Payne. Charles Payne. Charles Barkley. Might as well have a show. On Fox Business and they'll go, oh, this is wrong. This is, what are we doing? It's disrupting everything. My iPhone.

But you really want to get your economic analysis from Judge Janine. China was always the end game. Trump won. He's doing exactly what he said he would do. He said there would be short-term pain for long-term gain. He literally got everybody in the world to come to the table. Or they're trying, they're calling, they're flying in, they're trying to make a deal. And he sent a message to those countries that were willing to make a deal with the United States, let's do something mutually beneficial for both of us. Right now, his timing was right to the edge.

And it was a business decision to get everyone to the table so everyone can win. If there's a standoff, nobody wins. But now, this is the biggest win for America because we've got a level playing field. We are no longer a doormat for other countries. We've got a president who has the capacity, the ability, and the stamina to fight to make sure that we are at least a manufacturing country. Again you say United States doesn't want to be a manufacturing country again you say united states doesn't want to be a manufacturing company a country we lost 90,000 manufacturing businesses we want to be we have all these vacancies let me finish I didn't interrupt you all right what we want is we

want everyone who needs us to number one be able to rely on us and we need to be able to work with them in fact I, I would say bomb them, bomb them, and then bomb them again. So my take on this whole thing was that from the get-go, I kind of agree with Besant who said this whole thing was a setup. But the one thing I think he left out, I think the entire thing when he did his Independence Day thing the whole scheme was to create a across-the-board 10% tariff on everything from everyone. Which makes sense. And yes in fact even with the trillion dollars the excess that the Chinese have been shipping us that's a hundred billion dollars in tariffs even

though it's only 10% it's not that much we can everyone will be gladly pay an extra 10% for Chinese products or anybody's products there's only 10% it's only 10 percent. It's not that much. We can everyone will gladly pay an extra 10 percent for Chinese products Or anybody's products. There's only 10 percent. It's not that big of a deal. And so That would be a lot of money considering if you take a look at the totals, but He didn't like incentives just coming out on Independence Day as he calls it and saying we're gonna do a 10 percent across-the-board Deal he comes out with this crazy chart where he's taxing the Penguin Island, and everything, with 50, 70, 80% and he makes a big fuss about it, crashes the market. But if the giveaway was the underlying,

no matter who it was, had a minimum of 10%. Everybody had 10% at least. Yeah, it was 10% plus. That's right. Even, yeah, it was 10% plus, but the lowest was always 10%. There was nobody that got less than 10% even if they had no tariff. So, the 10% was given away when he did that chart. And so, then he does this new deal, goes off to 90-day, backs off, but he keeps the 10%. The whole thing keeps the 10%. The whole thing was about 10%. But he didn't want to start that way because that would be his negotiating posture from the get-go and he'd have to back off on it.

So he negotiates by putting these, it was ridiculous. And everybody got all bent out of shape. And, but the real goal was this 10% which I think it would be enough. Which will be enough. It'll be enough for us. It'll be more. Yes, it'll be enough for starters. It'll get some manufacturing will come back.

It's, you know, I mean Honda makes cars here already. Yeah. So does Toyota, Nissan. Well, that's the hard part. That's the hard part is building up the manufacturing base, which is his ultimate goal. And I've heard, I don't think I have any clips of it, but I've heard certainly pundits on the CNN and MSNBC and CNBC saying, well, this is the mistake he's making because Americans are stupid, they can't read above

fifth grade level and they're lazy and they don't want to work. And I think that that is a very elitist view of the American people. Completely. I think that we are, look, all three of our daughters at some point are busing tables or tending bar and they like it. They like the money, they like the tips, they like the hours, they like they don't have to take any work home with them, they don't have to work on their iPhone all the time. So I think that's true.

There's the iPhone again. Well, if I were a younger man today, let's say I was 30 back in my heyday, I would be making an American phone to rival the iPhone. It would be made of a cigar box, but I would be making an American phone. This is a golden opportunity. That's what people need to see. Now you can start. We have style problems.

You know, we don't make the coolest looking cars. They basically all look like military stuff or just gay. I mean, it's, that's kind of the two models we have. But, yeah, it's true. But this is the time. This is a golden opportunity. And instead, everyone's fretting about the iPhone. Come on. You can make a cool phone with open Android stock build you can do it you can do it I Know we can We just do we still do we make plastic here. We got plastics The best plastic makers are all in Taiwan. Well, that's good, too. We can do it. We're okay with Taiwan

We got we can do a deal with Taiwan it's time that people get knocked off their high horse. And yes, Apple is top of the bill because they're arrogant. There's overpriced and they've PsyOptical everybody into thinking that you have to have this phone. It's only about the iPhone. This whole thing. It's only about the iPhone.

That's all anybody can talk about. It's all anybody seems to care about. iPhone. That's all anybody can talk about. It's all anybody seems to care about. iPhone. Then- Well, which brings us to, let's say we're done with these tariffs clips. It brings us to another round, another round of smartphone discussion on NPR, which I've concluded, because we had those clips on the last show from NPR. Oh, this is interesting. There's something going on at NPR. Is this Scott? Is this Scott?

No, no, it's not Scott. This is one of the... You've got to warn me. All right. No, I don't think I have Scott on today's show. That's too bad because he's a staple. But somebody requested the Scott jingle for the... I saw that coming up.

It'll be in the donation. Oh, someone wants it for a jingle for the donation segment. It's a winner, I'm telling you. Scott's a winner. It's a winner for the shar. So what is this? What is the deal with the phones? What do they have?

I don't know, where's these clips? Cell phone BS number one? Yeah, that would be it, yes. This review study from last year on phone addiction. And it found that we're interrupted by our smart phones every 13 minutes of our time awake now, let's stop I gotta do it You have to remember we just did a series of clips off from NPR

We're there spreading about the five and a half hours Yeah a day that people are spending on their phone, and especially the host of whatever the show was, complaining to himself about it, being addicted to this phone. And so now they can't get off this topic. And so this is a whole new presentation. And I'm thinking, they really have some problems at NPR. There must be just on the phone all the time. And it found that we're interrupted by our smartphones every 13 minutes of our time awake.

So what would it be like to just give it up? August Lamb is an artist, an influencer, and an activist. And she published a couple of op-eds in the New York Times and the Guardian about hitting a breaking point with her smartphone. And so she made a bold move. She downgraded to a dumb phone. My smartphone, it represented my social life and also represented my work. And so it felt a bit like I was carrying around the office with me all day. And then the pressure to

keep that up and to keep the attention on me in order to make money was ultimately too much for me to handle and I just reached a breaking point. Paul Matzkoff So going back to when you first made this switch, what were some of the things that surprised you the most? Katie Slaughter It was really psychological. That's what surprised me is that there was the barrier of being bored and not knowing how to entertain myself. It wasn't about hobbies.

It was about being in my own mind. And at that point, my thoughts were not very stimulating because I wasn't used to having them. Absolutely. She's right. She's right. Now, this is what it works for me about this presentation is I now two years into keeping the I've gone beyond this.

I don't think it's a smartphone that's the issue or a dumb phone, like a flip phone. You still have the phone. It's the apps and the notifications the apps give you. If you have the phone in a drawer, which mine currently is, uh, and it's in the drawer, I probably take it out. Like if I have to do something recently, I had to go and use an Uber. So what am I going to do? Like there's had to go use an Uber. So what am I going to do? Like there's no way of getting an Uber without this damn phone.

And so I took the phone out of the drawer, use it to get the Uber, use it to get back. And then I put the phone back in the drawer where it belongs. And, uh, yeah. So I, but I have to refer back to when I first did this. I talked about this on Horowitz a little bit because and for one thing I've been I've been phone-less I will call it that phone-less I don't take the phone as a navigator I don't take the phone and put it in the car I don't drive around with the phone I've been phone-less for two

years I could have written these editorials she's writing an edit this unknown woman is writing an editorial for the New York Times and The Guardian about this. And all she's done is this downgrade to a flip phone. Okay. That's a little, that's not going all the way the way I see it. But this happened to me and it, cause what would happen, I had a phone, I was using it like any normal person or abnormal. Oh wait, we're hearing the Genesis of the drawer. Yeah. Okay. The Genesis of the drawer. Yeah. Okay. All right. The Genesis of the drawer. Another devour anecdote.

Uh, I went to team. I was using the cheap $30 a month T-mobile plan, which doesn't know. Even before I went to the drawer, I was always on a cheap plan, as cheap as I could get. And if I needed extra data or something, I was always on a cheap plan, the cheapest I could get. And if I needed extra data or something, I could buy it on the fly. And so I found this cheap plan that T-Mobile had for 30 bucks. And by the way, the current phone I now use, which is in the drawer is a track phone and the max price is $15 a

month. There you go. Nice. So I, but I had the $30 plan for T-Mobile and it died on me and I couldn't redo it for some reason on the phone. So I had to, I went to the T-Mobile store. So I go to the T-Mobile store and they got this idiot, he sets me up and said, Oh, well we, yeah, $30. Yeah, we, here we give you this plan. He set me up and it turned out that when I got home, it was a data only plan, which I didn't even know existed. So you couldn't make a call or text.

I couldn't make a call. So this was in data. Oh, and I started call T-Mobile and it's all well, yeah, well, you can come in and we for 45 bucks or something. And it got so pissed off. I said, screw these guys. I'm going to find some other system. And I decided I was going to, you know, move back to track phone or something super cheap. But I put the drawer in the phone and that,

and I never took it out. I never did any of this other stuff except to get it, eventually get a track phone account for the Uber. Yes. 15 bucks. And so it was T-Mobile that actually triggered this. And once I got the phone in the drawer, and I'd go to the store and I didn't have the phone

after a while, it takes about a week or two. It takes about two weeks before you realize that you don't need the phone on you all the time. And in situations where you do need a phone, somebody's got one, and you can have them do the work for you. I mean, this was the dinner table conversations used to be everyone had their phone and somebody wanted to look something up. I just tell a look something, look up this on your you got your phone.

I always said, you got your phone right there. Look it up. And so people would always, you know, scatter to their phones and look stuff up and do that. I realize I didn't need this stupid phone with me. Well, but you, okay. But there is one small point you're overlooking. You, yes, you go to, you go out, you go places, but you're not like most people who are out all day long and need the phone.

What do you need it for? For, to, to be interrupted every 13 minutes, apparently the phone. What do you need it for? To be interrupted every 13 minutes apparently. The thing, so here, and Apple is a big part of the problem. This texting used to be great. The Blackberry for me was the ultimate phone. It was a texting machine. You could text it with two thumbs. It had a tactile.

This is how you, this is when you first got addicted. I want to say. No, no, no, no, no, no, stop. Okay, go ahead. I want to go- I want to- more story. I used to- I remember the Blackberry era and there were all these guys with their Blackberry and they're always texting on it.

They're constantly on it. So I'm on a plane with a friend of mine who's a Blackberry nut. He's got this thing constantly. He's looking- it's not the same as today's phone where people are walking down. The straight-up saw a guy yesterday walking his dog, looking at the phone. The guy's going to kill himself walking, wandering around with the dogs pulling wherever he wants because the guy's not even seeing where he's walking. So the Blackberry guy, so the guy, we flew and it was, Blackberry had to be off on the

flight and this guy got, as it was a three or four hour flight. And as the flight continued, you could see him getting more and more and more nervous and, and getting jittery. And so when we finally landed, he jumped on that Blackberry so fast. It was like to see what the hell was going on because it was so important, but he wasn't a doctor on call. I mean, I don't get it. And so I, and from then on I've always been very skeptical of these devices. This is true. What you're saying. That's why they call it the crackberry.

And that probably did start a lot of the addiction. Um, but today I find the only thing you really need is the ability to text somebody. I like being able to take a picture and I like being able to listen to podcasts. And I think it's handy to have some kind of GPS-like functionality because I am challenged. Above a thousand feet I'm good. I just don't have this gene. I don't know what it is. Tina scoffs at me for it. I just can't. I'm not good at it. You can't find your way around.

I can't find my way around. But for now, I'm not talking about today's texting. I'm talking about just sending a message. Not these long threads with people in groups and sending links. Hold on a second. I'm going to have to stop you. Did you find your way around when you were a little kid? No, but I got hopelessly lost. They had to come get me at the... I had to...

Okay, so it's always been the same. I was the... Can Adam's parents please come to the checkout? He was lost. That was me. That was me. Oh, okay. Well, because I think a lot of people are losing their sense of being able to find their

way around. It doesn't get any better. Of course not. There's no practice. Of course, that's obvious, but I'm a 21st century man. So I need to have some kind of direction. But I'm fine with whatever's in my car. I'm okay. It works fine enough.

So I am very, I have one on order, the Light Phone 3. I've tried the Light Phone 2. It had the right idea, but you couldn't really text. I just wanna be able to send the text. And if someone sends me a link in a text, I'm not gonna get it. It'll say, there's a link to this. You can get that later on your computer.

If I think you are able to send a picture to somebody. But the limitation is important. It's important. That's why there's only 20 cigarettes in a pack. You got to be out of them at a certain point. But it is a health crisis. And I'm happy that the people who are mainly responsible for all of this nonsense, Apple, that they're

gonna get dinged. Then, you know, just yes I'm all for just a simple phone with text and phone and some, you know, I like to take a picture and if it has a hotspot that's even better. So if I really need it to hook up a computer, I can hook up a computer. Let's listen to the second of this clip because we're only through the first one in the series. It can only get better. A lot of people go their whole day without ever having a moment to just think. It's constant media, whether you're listening to music or podcasts or audiobooks. Then when you actually give yourself space to think, you're not used to it. You're sort of out of practice and your thoughts are pretty quiet or alternatively, they're

frightening because you haven't thought them for so long. You haven't dealt with any of your emotions. It was an uncomfortable experience for me just being in my own mind. Then as time went on, my thoughts became a lot more interesting and stimulating. Now, I'll happily walk around for hours without headphones and just think. Host 1 Was there a period in there though before that where you were really tempted to go back? Host 2 Oh, absolutely.

I had a lot of stumbling blocks along the way. I was infuriated. It felt like I was in solitary confinement in my own mind. I'm really glad that I pushed through that. I did also try an iPod for a while. I got an old iPod, but I don't need that anymore. Matthew Feeney So how has giving up your smartphone impacted your relationships? Katie Fong My relationships are stronger because when

I'm actually spending time with these people in person, I'm fully present and I'm fully listening and I'm not waiting for the interaction to end so I can check my email again. You know, when you think about the current news environment, some people may feel anxious reading the news and knowing what's going on, but many people may feel anxious not knowing what's happening or a responsibility to stay informed. What would you say to someone who is maybe feeling cut off from what's happening around them without a smartphone? I think there's a health and a simplicity to reading things that are collected and presented

once in a while, not constantly, and not hearing about news the moment it happens before the questions are answered and before things are clarified. It's a health crisis. Where's Bobby the Op? It's a health crisis, these phones. Yeah, that's going to be low on the list. But it's a, yeah. Well, fluoride first.

He's doing that. And then... Yeah, that's about-ride first. He's doing that. And then… David Korsunsky Yeah, that's about time. Talk about overdue. Dave Korsunsky Yeah. All right, last clip. Lauren Ruffin It's a feeling of civic duty to check the news and that can be a great excuse when you deep down just want entertainment and you

don't want to be in reality. You want to be away from the problems of your own life or from the boredom of it. So, I would just suggest get… By the way, you could replace phone here for cigarettes, crack, meth, alcohol, all of those apply. This is pure addiction and it's tailored for addiction. We know this.

This is no secret. So, what is NPR's problem? You want to be away from the problems of your own life or from the boredom of it. I would just suggest getting the newspaper or if you have to do it digitally, getting one digital update but not this endless scroll, not these belligerent notifications about the news because it just makes it so you're never in one place. You're never in the place of reading the news and you're never in the place of your actual

circumstances. You're always in between. That's August Lam. She's an artist, writer, and activist who recently published pieces in The Guardian and New York Times about giving up her smartphone. August, thank you so much for talking to me today. Yeah, thanks for having me. So I think what's going on here is you're just mad that they're getting this woman,

this artist and activist. Exactly. You got it right. You nailed it. They really should have been interviewing you. Well, you know what? Have you written this up? I'm a tech guy that doesn't use a smartphone.

How does that work? I mean, no, no. That's much more interesting than some artist activist. I have told you what you're doing wrong. Now is the time. This is an exit strategy for you and for you only, and I would support it. You need to become the tech grouch again. Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want to interview you, and then of course you got to schlep around that outfit all over the place and you got to keep the

voice going. Iphone, smiPhone, I got a Bakelite phone it's fine. People will love you they will glom on to the Tech Grouch. I'm working on it. I'm getting the green screen this week. There will be chicks in college with t-shirts. I love the Tech Grouch. Yes, yes this is where this is the direction you need to go. This is your third breath of life. Let's face it, podcast thing is played, man. You got to go back to being the tech grouch. That was sexy, that was hot, people loved it. Well, the time is now. The time is right. The time is right. Time is right. So while we're on technology, by the way I saw another CNBC, quantum, quantum, it's all quantum.

Somebody was in the EU going on and on about one thing or another and as soon as they dropped the word quantum, yeah once we get the AI and then quantum, it's all quantum. You know that they don't know what they're doing. They're idiots. It's all quantum. It's an idiot thing to say. It's all quantum. And so Amazon, arguably a very successful technology company with their Amazon web services, AWS,

and every startup uses them. So they finally come out with their new Nova Sonic, Amazon's Nova Sonic. This is AI, it's AI for voice, it's AI. Well, they only really have one demo and one application. And I'm going to play it in real time. I could have cut out the pauses, but that doesn't give you the full experience of the only thing AI so far is going to be good for, and I think it sucks, is call centers and help desks. Here is the big Amazon Nova Sonic demo. Woo!

Hi, is this Anytelco customer support? Hello, yes, this is Anytelco's customer support. Can you please provide your phone number so I can look up your account information? Sure, yeah, it's 510-123-4567. Listen to the pause in between. Thank you for providing your phone number. I've retrieved your account information. How can I assist you today?

Why is my bill this high? It's ridiculous. How are you charging me this much? I understand your concern about the high bill. Let's look into it. Your current bill is... And at this point, don't you just want to rip your head off when you're talking? You're like, what kind of human being can interact with this this way? This makes no... This is actually one of the better examples. AT&T uses a system. And they have the doodle-doot in between when it's thinking doodle-doot. No, no, it's just I'm gonna have to record. You know, I've been told to do this. I'm

gonna have to get off the stick and do it, which is rig some of these phones of mine up. A landline. A landline! I had to rig these phones up so I can record it, which is rig some of these phones of mine up landline. I had to rig these phones up so I can record these calls because some of these, these, these automated systems are so lame. It's like, you can't afford some dollar an hour person in India. I mean, you can barely speak English. That would be better than this. Yeah. The true AI anonymous Indian. That's what we need. Always name Steve.

Actually, I got a interesting, uh, what was this? Um, where was it? Uh, there was a was a TikTok ad. TikTok. I have a couple of TikTok. Yeah, good. I'm gonna set you up. First, I'm gonna play the clip and have something to read. TikTok literally helped Danos grow from a one man show to 45 team members in Louisville, Kentucky.

There's no way I'd be able to support this building or any of my employees without TikTok. It's not just about me anymore. TikTok brings in so much foot traffic to be able to have 28 employees and everybody's paid well. It's just a blessing. It's a blessing. It's a blessing. So, um,

There's a, there's more than a few of those ads out there. I've seen a bunch of them. We have a number of producers who are inside the the TikTok ecosystem and they send they receive an email from tick from TikTok. Subject line. This plays on something we talked about on the last show. Important de minimis announcement for TikTok shop. What? De minimis? De minimis, yes. You know it. Well, explain de minimis. I don't know the explanation. It's just a dumb phrase that's used for some reason or other.

Well, de minimis is the under $800 packages that now... Oh, that's right. It was talked about that Trump dropped these de minimis things. Hello, TikTok shop sellers. We want to ensure you're informed of the changes dropped these de minimis things. Yes. Hello TikTok shop sellers. We want to ensure you're informed of the changes to the de minimis exemption for goods originating from certain countries. What is the de minimis exception? Exemption.

And then it has a link. Currently exempt shipments valued at or under $800 USD from tariffs. What change? The US government announced plans to remove de minimis treatment for products from China, including Hong Kong, effective May 2, 2025. What does this mean? Well, when the de minimis exemption is removed from a country's goods, duties will be applicable to all impacted shipments regardless of value and additional supporting documentation may

be required to import previously exempt goods into the US. What happens now? Seller should continue to ensure they are familiar with all requirements for importing goods into the US. We are actively monitoring these developments. We'll keep you informed." So there they got problems. This whole operation was based on that. And I saw this morning, the Andrew, uh, the Andrew New York Times character was interviewing the CEO of Amazon. I wish I'd clipped it. He said, so how about your bid for TikTok? And he says, we never said we bid for TikTok.

He said, well, it was reported. He said that was reported. So he's pretending like they didn't bid on it now. I thought it was interesting. Oh, they're bailing out. Might be. Might be. Yeah.

This, the minimalist thing may be the, uh, well, besides being a $50 minimum, which really screws it up because before he could just buy something for eight bucks and it show up in the mail in three or four days. Yeah. Uh, yeah, this is huge. Amazon is their big deal is we're going to sell you drugs. And the pharmacy pharmacy is what it's all about. that's the last place I want to get it. No the every hey if The CEO said if you're not feeling well, it's great to get your medicine your meds within a few hours

You don't want to have to go to Walmart or CVS You want to get it delivered to your home? you sick person. So I've run into, I don't have, I only have two clips from TikTok, but they are, uh, they're short. One is only 10 seconds. I have one too, but I'll wait until yours are done. Mine are thematic. These are women with grievances. Okay.

Toward everybody it seems to me. They're just women with grievances. They exist against men. It's like, see, they're lesbians in some sort of guise or I'm not absolutely sure what's causing this. But the first one is the dinner one. Let's play that. Let me just go ahead and get this out there right now.

If a man ever looks at me and says, hey babe, what's for dinner? And like, means it, like assumes I'm in charge of dinner. What's for dinner? Divorce. That's what's for dinner. That's just engagement farming. She's not going to divorce anybody. She's not going to get married. Not if she doesn't cook.

And here's another one. This is a single mom with a bunch of kids divorce anybody. She's not gonna get married. Not if she doesn't cook. And here's another one. This is a single mom with a bunch of kids who is now putting demands on who she's gonna date. These are the requirements that you need to have in order to date me. A single mom of three kids. Number one is that you need to be making at least 130k a year. And you need to have at least two side hustles. If you cannot make 130k or more, then you are out of my fucking league. How do you expect to give me money for my kids if you only make 50k a year? Second is I don't date men that are younger than me because for obvious reasons.

So if you are 26 and over, then you qualify. 26 to 35 is the age limit. Okay, I feel like 35 is pushing it because they look old as fuck already oh I'm 26 I'm a baby so yeah you have to have at least three cars under your name your second car has to have eight seats because I have three kids oh I want them to be comfortable whenever we go with you on a trip or something you want me to come with you I'm gonna bring my kids and you need to have enough space for my kids. So that's why I require you to have an SUV

and a vehicle of your own if you're gonna be dating me. Another requirement is that you have to have a property under your name and you have to be looking into getting your second property. Have to get a home that has six rooms because I got kids. Each of my kids have to be in their own room. So you have to be considerate, purchase a house that has six rooms because that's only common sense like and if you cannot meet those requirements

then you're not the fucking one. Last requirement is that it has to be pink. If it's not pink No pink and brown go together pink and brown like what? Dua Lin, you know? Well, this is very sad. This is what happens with women like this, and it happens with men too. But with women like this, they are on the TikTok, and they are constantly getting barraged with DMs, hey baby, hey baby, let's hook up.

Because that is the entire culture of the phone and social media. And now she thinks that that's real real and that these people don't just want to hook up with her and reenact some only fans fantasy. So she thinks that she's now a popular and that she can make these demands and that that's actually going to work out for her. This is very sad. It's a very sad state of affairs. And I heard yesterday that 80 million, I don't know,

it was like 68 million men in America have an OnlyFans account, which I don't think includes you because your phone's in the drawer. Yeah. But this doesn't include, but this is a plague. This is a plague. Wait, I got another stat. Supposedly, I heard this just the other day, 10% of all women between the ages of 18 and 25 are OnlyFans women. There's millions of them.

Yeah, I believe it. I believe it. So 10% of the women out there are on OnlyFans stripping. And then you have all these guys that are with these accounts. Yeah. This is not healthy. Why are we wasting our time podcasting? You could be telling the tech grouch to take his pants off.

This is this, this is your edges. All right. I have a TikTok clip, which is, uh, uh, this is baffling, baffling, but this is under my heading of delusional Dems. Well, there are rumblings all over the media now that on April 20th, Trump will declare martial law, which effectively means the military takes over for the police. Free speech becomes illegal, protests become illegal. You have to have the permission of the military to do anything. And worse than that, the Commander in Chief Trump can do basically anything he wants. Literally.

Okay? We may be looking at the end of American democracy and we have 13 days left. Okay? Here's my point. Please prepare your family for the worst. The other rumor is that they're going to seize all the guns. So if you have a gun, you want to keep keep it You might want to bury it in your backyard stock up on food Please stop spending money. You don't have to spend you may need it. Okay, if he shuts everything down

You're gonna need some cash. You're gonna need something. Okay, please prepare your family for the worst and hope for the best This is the first I heard of it, but I guess the rumors out there. But what was crazy is here in the Hill Country in Little Fredericksburg, all of a sudden, we got the phones blowing up. Everybody's going crazy. Oh, have you heard about this? The Muslims are coming. 400 acres of beautiful scenery.

Welcome to the future of living. Welcome to Epic City. In promotional videos, Epic City is a collection of single and multifamily homes and commercial developments surrounding a mosque and school. Epic City is more than just a neighborhood. It's a way of life. But last month online, Governor Abbott raised the rumor of Sharia law playing a part. State Rep Jeff Leach wrote a letter asking the Attorney General to investigate, and Epic responded to the Governor online saying,

Our vision is to build a diverse, safe and inclusive community and will follow all local, state and federal laws. And the resident scholar at Epic acknowledged the noise. You're probably aware that on social media there's a lot of negative campaigns against our particular message at Epic because of our project Epic City right and a lot of the far right are riling up hatred. Now this week Abedin Paxton announced a dozen state agencies are investigating the proposed development alleging serious legal issues. The Texas Funeral Commission sent a cease and desist letter alleging illegal funeral

services at the East Plano Islamic Center. And the governor on X writing, this is the tip of the iceberg, the proposed community will never see the light of day. Representatives for Epic City could not be reached for comment on Thursday, but last month invited the governor to see the site and maybe some barbecue to learn more about the project. So I'm baffled by this. Barbecue is a lot of pork.

I'm baffled by this because this epic community, which is 74 homes built near a big mosque, I will add that, has been there for 12 years. This is nothing new but the mosque there the mosque is there. They have a video they have an AI video. Oh it's epic we're gonna build this great Sharia law which they don't say in their video but that's what's being said but I think what's happening here is you have where is this? Well, hold on Plano. I have to ask questions. Plano, Plano, Plano, Texas. Oh, that's north of Dallas That's not a nowhere near you. No, of course not Plano, Plano. But it was all said but that's where Ross Perot used to be in Plano. Yeah

They're all upset, but it's like I think Ken Paxton he is now launching His senatorial race and I think is avid up for reelection This I don't know this reeks this reeks of nonsense. Oh this row. I see you think it's just political Yeah, yeah, I didn't make sense it is but it's like all of a sudden this storm like we have nothing. Look at your own town. We got a lot of stuff going on here. Don't worry about Plano. Let Plano worry about Plano. Well, it's gonna be Sharia law. So? Sharia law. That doesn't supersede US law if they want to do certain things based on their religion and do whatever they want. They don't stone anybody.

Yeah, and don't break the law. That's fine. But everyone's all upset about it. It's the phones, man. It's the phones. They're no good. Yeah, I'm a very anti-phone. I ran into an oddball clip.

This is from Tucker. He's had some interesting people on recently. Yeah, he's getting some screen. He's got a new booker or something who's getting all kinds of... Yeah, I'm waiting for my call. I think I should be on Tucker. I don't know. Yes, I'm the inventor of podcasting. Yeah, you are, but I don't know if... I just don't see you in Tucker actually. I, you actually. I can see you and Beck getting along famously. In fact, Beck thinks you're his brother. Until I didn't want to work on Fridays for him, then all of a sudden I didn't get called.

No, he'll get you back on if you actually wanted to go on. And then I can see you and Rogan because Rogan's kind of a, you and him, I can see that working out. But wait a minute, Tucker and I, we got Jesus in common, man. I don't see why. There's a connection right there. I don't think it's the same Jesus. Well, is it different Jesus? Well, it could be in Tucker's case.

Okay. So, Tucker brought on the guy who was one of the executives at Budweiser, and the whole thing, a very good interview, because the guy has nothing but stories to tell. This is about the woke stuff and how they- About the woke stuff and all the rest of it. They're talking about Dylan Mulvaney and how they screwed that up. The guy who runs the Budweiser division, they talk about him a little bit and the fact that

nobody got fired over the Dylan Mulvaney thing and the huge billions of dollars in losses and they haven't been able to recover, they still haven't. But then Tucker discusses the guy who is the division CEO of Anheuser-Busch, this ex-CIA guy, and he makes some generalities about CEOs that I thought was... I never heard this before from him or anybody else, but now that he mentions it, I thought this was a pretty good analysis and it starts off with the other guy talking a little bit about how this situation fell apart and then Tucker goes into his little diatribe. And so all of a sudden the company actually, its sales declined even more and funny enough, is he still there?

He's still there, which is crazy. Everyone is still there. There's been zero accountability for this, despite the fact... I don't know the guy. I've met him and talked to him. Former CIA guy. Former CIA guy. He told me.

Right. Extremely physically fit. Big, big, big crossfit guy. Most CEOs I've met, and particularly the more disconnected from manufacturing they are, the more finance oriented they are, the better physical condition they're in. Just cut jaw lines, they all play lacrosse at Middlebury, they're always on the- The guy looks like G.I. Joe.

100%. I'm not against physical fitness. I could use a little more myself. But that doesn't seem like a relevant criterion if you're choosing a CEO and yet every- Larry Fink is kind of pudgy, so I'm on his side for that. But it feels like whoever's doing the hiring here is doing it based on appearance. And these are white people mostly, so it's not DEI exactly, but it is a form of DEI. Like why, like that guy seemed like every other CEO I've met in the last 10 years, vapid, afraid, completely terrified.

You could smell the fear on the guy, obsessed with his physical appearance and totally lacking creativity. Are those fair descriptions? That was just my reaction from spending an evening with him. That's amazing. I mean, you spent one evening with him. I spent, I don't know, I've known Brendan for 10 years, 15 years. I'm not saying he's like a terrible spent, I don't know, I've known Brendan for 10 years, 15 years. I'm not saying he's a terrible person.

I don't know that, but he is definitely, and I hate to single him out though, he's a former CIA guy, which should be disqualifying right there. But he seemed emblematic of an entire class of people who, in my pretty extensive experience around them, are deeply unimpressive. The reason this kind of got my attention because I know some people that are high end individuals that have made the same observation about especially the fear thing. He says a lot of companies are run by guys who are just, everything is based on fear. Yeah.

And everything, you know, it's not, they don't, they're not positive people. They're, they're reactive. And the, the CEO's class of America seems to be people, which what Carlson says he's run into a bunch of them, I'm sure he has, that are just as fear based, lousy, uncreative group of people that are running the country.

Yes. Well, I just thought it was an interesting observation. I would say that's correct. No argument for me. What happened? Well, I don't know what happened. Yeah. You know, all these we have, what happened is cheap stuff from China is what happens.

That's what we get all these big mega companies with a lot of middle management. I don't know. I don't know. I want to go back to simpler times, John. I found it depressing that is this's this observation of Tucker's. Yeah, I think he's not wrong. But everyone should just be podcasting and cleaning each other's house and be great. We'll have a good time.

So this was a very disturbing report, not just for the nurses involved, but for the total lack of awareness of what's happened in our world, particularly in the last five years. She's a longtime nurse at Newton-Welsley Hospital who didn't want to reveal her identity, but she's speaking out after being diagnosed with a brain tumor and says she's not alone among her nursing colleagues. It's getting to the point where the number just increases and you start saying, am I crazy thinking this?

Like I can't, this can't just be a coincidence. She claims as many as 10 nurses who all work on the fifth floor maternal care ward have been diagnosed with different brain tumors over the last few years. Some cancerous, some not. Three she says have had surgery and believes the hospital has not been supportive enough. We want reassurance because this has been a not reassuring past few months for a lot of staff members. And we just want to feel safe the same way we want to make our patients

feel safe. The hospital confirms it has been investigating since December and has interviewed 10 nurses, six of whom it says have differing brain tumors. But the hospital also says no risk factors have been found linking these cases to that fifth floor. In a statement, the hospital says it conducted a CDC guided investigation and shared the results. The investigation found no environmental risks which could be linked to the development of

a brain tumor. The State Department of Public Health says it is also looking into the cases while nurses are calling for an independent investigation. I think the concern is we don't know what it is and nurses are scared, they're worried and they want to make sure they're not working in an unsafe place. I think the nurses should be the first people because we're the ones that brought it to their attention to be told and we feel like we've been the last to be the first people because we're the ones that brought it to their attention to be told And we feel like we've been the last to be informed on anything

If there is a connection here their search for answers is far from over So sad about this Yeah, this is a great story has been floating around and they can't they haven't got a clue no idea What could have happened and they like well could it be environmental on the fifth floor? Could it just be that? Is there something in the walls? But no one points out the obvious. Safe and effective is what I want to point out. It's just frustrating.

Why would it just be this one ward? I mean, would that be Hospital-wide. Oh, I think it's because they just happen to have this one one ward and they're just focusing everybody on it Don't look over here. Look at the fifth floor. I I Don't trust any of this reporting. So you think the reporting is flawed? Of course Then we go to then we go to CBS who had a fascinating report which was surprising for a number of reasons. This is about COVID. Five years ago today at the beginning of the pandemic Johns Hopkins reported that more than 400,000 people in the U.S. had come down with COVID and nearly 15,000 had died. Two months later our Dr. John Lapuque was among the first to

report that COVID is spread through the air. In tonight's Eye on America, Dr. Lapooke introduces you to a new weapon against airborne diseases, COVID, bird flu, and many more. Oh, we've got something now. Bad enough, bird flu has rocked the dairy industry and infected 70 people in the United States. But there's a bigger concern, a pandemic in humans. As we have human infections with these avian viruses, a random mutation might emerge that is more fit in a human. So there you go.

University of Pennsylvania researcher Scott Hensley has been studying bird flu for 15 years. And if that mutation would arise, then we fear the virus might be able to transmit human to human. Through the air? Through the air. Yeah. That's the fear.

As far as we know, that has not happened yet. But if it does, a new technology is waiting in the wings. It's called FAR-UVC. FAR-UVC. Does that sound familiar to you? Well not to me, but at least not yet. It will. It will. We'll play another clip. Does that sound familiar to you? Well, not to me, but at least not yet. It will.

It will. We'll play another clip. See these far UVC lamps? They emit a type of light that can kill microscopic germs floating in the air. Columbia University physicist David Brenner explained, these lights work by damaging the genes of disease-causing microbes. Brenner's initial main target has been seasonal flu, but that could change. UV light really doesn't care about the details of whether it's a bacteria or a virus.

It can kill all of them, essentially. Conventional UVC is used to sanitize surfaces in places such as hospitals. But it's not shined directly at people because it can harm the eyes and skin. In contrast, the shorter wavelength far-UVC is safer because it can't penetrate the tear layer of the eye or the top layers of skin. The CDC says far-UVC is promising, but more research is needed. One reason David Brenner, an advisor to a manufacturer of UVC lamps, set up a UVC laboratory. This is an experimental room that simulates real life. That's a far UVC lamp.

They can control all sorts of conditions here, humidity, airflow. They can also measure the amount of virus in the air before and after they turn on the far UVC lamp. I'd say the development has been slow and steady. So these journalists and doctors, all of them have somehow forgotten how in 2020 President Trump was mocked endlessly for this. A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous,

whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do, either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting.

Do you remember how they laughed and laughed and laughed? Oh, crazy Trump with his UV lamp. Oh, that's so silly. That's so crazy. Somehow they forgot to report that. Yeah. I see. Well, then I could, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just, I just, you know, I have, but I have a long memory of these things. And so now they're doing the same. They're getting us all messed up. Well, bleach will be up next. Bleach, if you drink bleach, it's always going to be good. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the UVC lamp. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. for cell phone in a drawer, John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell.

John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMorell. John C. DeMore the only mr. for cell phone in a drawer John C. DeWerre yeah well in the morning you Mr. Adam Curry in the morning I should see boots on the ground feet the air sops in the water in the morning to the trolls in the troll room stop moving around let me count you for a second it's kind of the new normal 1907 1907 trolls listening along to the no agenda show listening live which is better than most studio audiences let me tell you that because of course we've

been doing this for more than 17 years and we've seen it all people more than once. Yes. Did we even have, when we started the show, there was barely smartphones. I think we just had the iPhone 1. What was the year that we started? 2007. Well, that would be iPhone year. I remember because I remember that Chris Jacob bought one for me in San Francisco and I took it back to the UK and I was and I was like, Oh, what is that? I had the iPhone. On that iPhone, you couldn't copy or paste. That was the funniest thing. And then I

had had it only three days and I dropped it in the toilet. Oh, I remember the toilet story. Yeah, you bent over to flush the toilet and it came out of your pocket or something and fell and you dug it out. Yes, and then I put it into kitty litter. I tried all kinds of things and it never came back to life. It was a sad day in techno world. Yes. Curiously, I've never owned an iPhone.

No, and I'll never own one. I'm I've I've sworn off all Apple products Because you can't trust them Can't trust them. They can't not for any use that is to me useful to me like USB Like you can't trust them with USB those guys Doesn't matter. That's my problem. Oh, and by the way, please please Every single time we talk about Linux and I say I can't use it for my professional audio setup. There's no yeah you can. You know, did you try wine? Did you try this? Did you try that?

Hey man, Jack, you can use Jack and you can route it all and then it'll work. No, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Stop it, please. And I'll say, no, no, I've tried it. I'm looking at it. No, man, you could set it up. You could hire some guys to do it. Okay, how about I just use a crappy Windows box? It just works.

I use Linux made for all my other stuff. It's not a question of the Linux, right? It's the drivers. It's always the drivers. Anyway, this is a delight to do this show, to do it live. We stream it live. Trollroom.io is where you can join in if you want to troll along and listen live,

or you can use a modern podcast app. Many of them receive the bat signal, alert you. Oh, there's yet another alert you need on your phone, but you need it for this. You need to know when we're going live. And then, and there's no video. You just listen, just so you can do other things. You can be smiling, laughing out loud.

People think you're just having a good time at work and we all know you're not. And you listen to the No Agenda Show and, and with that modern podcast app, you get all kinds of extra features like the artwork. We have chapters with artwork that Dreb Scott puts together for us. And we are blessed by an entire community of artists who, as a part of our value for value model, are happy to contribute some time and talent of the 3Ts, which includes Treasure, to help support the show, to make it look good so we always have some fresh art. It's good in the podcast app, looks great when we promote the show, it's great for the newsletter. And it's just more fun to be had looking at those chapters, even

in the car. They change per topic and it gives you an extra jolt of humor. And we're going to thank the artist for episode 1753. We called that one local jemoke. was that easy? Choosing a piece? This was a bad series. Again, of course, I blame the show. Yeah, it's always our fault. It is our fault because if we don't have something that triggers artists to come up with ideas, if there's no triggering mechanism, then they can't come up with ideas. And then whose fault is that? It's ours. It's our fault. Yes. But Nestworks did a yeoman's job and he came up with a can of dirt, organic dirt, eat dirt. It's all you can afford. And we appreciate that Nestworks and that is not AI, I guarantee you. There's less and less AI, interestingly, it seems to me.

Or the AI's gotten really good. Maybe, I don't think so. Let's see what else, there was another dirt that we looked at, there was Tanta Neal's dirt, imported dirt for poor people. For me, it was close between those two. I like the tariffs on penguins piece, but you hated it to such an extreme it didn't

even get into the play. I wouldn't say I hated anything. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, this was Triple J's piece. It just looked washed out and when you embiggened it, the Noah Jindal letters were just kind of floating. They weren't even on the penguin piece of ice that they were on.

It was washed out. Yeah, it was a little washed out. It was washed out. Let me see. Oh, yeah. D of NC. We didn't think the Ku Klux Klan with the burning Tesla cross was going to work. So we just we thought that might be taking it.

That was not a good one. No, and we we weren't it's the same as the gummy Jesus we were gonna do that but if you did that just to make us laugh okay I personally liked I don't know why I like Scaramanga save the bees that just I thought it was a cute piece and you hated it with a vengeance you just I didn't hate you with the vengeance I just thought it was boring yeah Yeah, boring. And the Hey Hey Ho Ho MAGA hat, I thought that was kind of cute. Yeah, again, it was not. It was just too plain. Everybody loved the idea of the book that helps you get rid of your phone addiction. It's a hollow book and you put your phone in it.

And a number of artists came up with some concepts, but I also got people sending me links to manufacturers who make these kinds of things. I forward it to you. Yeah, I know, I got it, Napco, whatever the company is. Have you ordered anything yet? I haven't ordered anything. I'm looking at their, I'm gonna get a hold of them and see if they can even do this.

Yeah, I ordered stuff. We order what? They don't make hollow books, but it's a possibility that they can It's another great idea. I mean I come up with ideas. We get the Podfather Awards. You're the idea man. I'm the idea man and you're the execution man. Yeah, which means we don't which means I execute most of these ideas. People we're just gonna be're going to wind up dying.

I like the morning coffee one with the dog at the microphone. Yeah, it was all right. It was all right. It was all right. It's just something funny about a dog podcasting. We love the value for value model for so many different reasons, mainly because we don't have to have meetings with advertisers. That was the original impetus for not doing that. But also, you get to value the podcast at the amount that you think

it's worth. And that's a very fair system. And to close the loop, we always thank people. $50 or above, we tell you who it is, how much money they supported us with. And we have a special moment here in the show where we give an extra benefit to people who came in with more money than usual, $200 or above. You get the title of Associate Executive Producer and we read your note and that title is a Hollywood credit. You can use it anywhere Hollywood credits are accepted and recognized including imdb.com. $300 or above, you become an executive producer and once again we read your notes. And we're gonna kick it off with Anthony Lef, yes?

I was gonna do something before. Oh, what were you gonna do? Hello? A couple of, whoops. What are you doing? I had to reach for this paper. Oh, okay. I wanted to thank a couple more people

from the No Agenda Meetup. Oh, from the meetup, did you forget that on the last show? No, I thanked most of them, but I didn't thank Violet, the little cutie. The trap baby? Bush is now older. I think five maybe. Unfortunately, I don't know about you, but little kids, they like their age to be exact. Yes, yes. Five and a half.

I have noticed this. Four and a half, you know that kind of thing. Yes, four and nine months. She gave me a sweatshirt hoodie with the Pizzeria Violeta's logo on it and a nice, and a big logo on the back. Oh, not very nice piece. She comes over with a little bag and gives it your mom. You're a sucker. You're a sucker for kids. Aren't you?

You just love the toddlers. The kids are great. And so the other one, the other person I want to thank was sir Lawrence of dystopia. I forgot to thank him. He did donate money, but he also gave me a gift. And so, and then the, and the gift was, it was the wildest bottle of, uh, uh, Johnny Walker blue that I've ever seen. It was the blue.

The bottle itself has been completely redone. That's top notch stuff. It's the best product. It's the best stuff, yeah. Wow. And it came in a package that was like a purse of some sort. It was like a puffy jacket made out of that material. It could be turned inside out and had, it's so ridiculous. I don't know what this comes from.

The bottle itself has been changed. It's got a different label. It's got stuff printed all over the bottle. It's such a collectible. I'm not sure what to do with it. I'm not sure what it... Drink it. Drink it.

Drink it on the show. I don't drink when I'm doing the show. Oh, okay. But it's such a collectible. I'd like to know the backstory on this particular package. That is a nice gift. And how are you going to send me my half of that? Oh, I was going to pour off half of it into a flask.

I'm sorry, it was a birthday gift. I forgot. No, that's valid. It's a birthday gift. Oh no, I'll send you half anyway. No. It'll be in a, I'll pour it in a flask and I'll put the flask in the mail and you'll get it probably within

the next couple of years. Okay. Yeah, excellent. I'm looking forward to that. Or later. Yeah. But I'm just stunned by this product, the packaging itself, the presentation. I'd like to know more.

That's the point I'm making. All right. Onward. By the way, we know we had a kind of spooky visitor at your birthday party. I also got one of those challenge coins. I didn't get a challenge coin, I got a patch. Oh, I got a challenge coin. You only got a patch?

You went to the meetup and you got a patch and I got the challenge? No, the patch came through the mail. I didn't get a challenge coin at the meetup. Oh, but that spooky person sent me of the same thing a challenge coin. Oh. Of the camp, the special camp. Yeah, the camp. Yeah. The camp.

Quote, unquote. Oh, good. Anthony LaFerla is in Minneapolis, Minnesota. $500. Thank you very much Anthony. He says, Commodore Centerlight rejoice in what time we have weaving words into the air. My utmost appreciation for you both. So he will be a Commodore today. Oh, California. Ritzy area. Uh, thanks fellas.

I like the U-T-O-H-I-So. Ut-oh. What I so is that? I'm not sure. You guys should use it more often. Ut-oh? Wait, I don't know what he means. I want to help him but I don't know what he means. It could mean Utah, Ohio. I don't think.

No. But you, uh oh. I don't know what, we don't have an uh oh. Reposting, moving and jobs karma. You need some, I'm sorry requesting and moving and jobs karma. Leaving the failed state of California and headed to Vancouver, Washington which is $333.33. This is a donation. And Vancouver, Washington, which is $333 and 33 cents is his donation. And Vancouver, Washington is if you don't like taxes, that's the place to go. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

We've got a couple of handwritten notes. We start with a Sir PPT and that's $333.33. Nice number. In the morning, boys, appreciate your analysis on the show. No jingles, no karma, no shout outs, Sir PPT. P.S. donation accounting available upon request. Well, does he need something? We only have a Commodore. I don't think we have any Knights or anything.

Well, we do have one Knight that came in with a request late. No, that did not come through my spreadsheet. Yeah, Andrew. Yeah, he's moved to Sunday. Yeah, it was Andrew.'s he's moved to Sunday yeah he's Andrew it will be well well PPT sir PPT you're already a knight so let me know if there's something you needed we're happy to oblige we break for nights we do another note comes in from Pharaoh in Athens. Yes, it's Charles. Charles, our buddy Charles with the lard cream. Ah yes, 33333. And he wrote a note in with his letterhead.

In the morning, John, thank you for your courage. I'm delighted to send this latest No Agenda Value for Value for value donation to you along with a jar of our face food No agenda listeners have been amazing supporters of our brand and we will continue to send treasure back to the show listeners can save It's got a written in here. I can't see what I'm 17 point 76 percent 1776 okay, I get it off all all Pharaoh products using the code no agenda. Check out at www.Pharaoh.life. Crep neck be damned. It gets rid of crep neck it's true. No jingles no karma just glowing skin for you and your Gen X compatriot. That would be you.

Yes, that's me. That's right. Even though you're really a boomer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. May the Lord be with you. He's a Commodore, by the way. Charles Commodore, hog father. Yeah, he's got a whole thing going on. He's the hog father. He's got a shtick, it's called. Yeah, he's got a whole thing going on.

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would be sending me messages on Telegram and then all of a sudden she somehow was sending Tina a message and I said, she says, do you know this person? I don't know but it could be a serial killer so be careful what you answer. And it turns out she's totally not a serial killer. So that's good. Well that's good to know. That's good. We're happy about that. Glenn Bukowski in Orlando, Florida is not one either. He's $300 in. Some months ago he writes Chris Sir Valera. Sir Valera sounds right. Yeah. Call me out on an executive producer note for not donating in a while. Please de-douche me. Also give me some baby making karma. Chris and his smoking hot girlfriend, oh two of them, his smoking hot girlfriend Alexandria

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On this drill baby drill, you know, the oil baron was already saying, this is not happening and now Reuters is writing reports about it. US oil producers face new challenges as top oil field flags. They're not getting the oil out that they used to. Remember peak oil was a joke? It seems like they're kind of getting there. Like they're now only getting 65 or 70% of the oil out of these shale drills.

The Permian Basin is not pumping what it used to. Six and a half million barrels per day Nearly half the all-time high of thirteen point five and they are not not drilling new or a new wells. They're just not Everybody brings a OPEC brings their prices down to nothing down below 60. Yeah Who cares? Well, we do we do keep talking in the mic because you're drifting. I haven't changed anything. I'm fine. Check my volumes, check my levels. Your levels are low. Potted me up. Your levels are low, man. But of course, we have solutions to our energy and that comes in the form of beautiful clean coal. I call it beautiful clean coal. I told my people never use the word coal unless you put beautiful clean before it.

Right, Doc? So we call it beautiful clean coal. Beautiful clean coal. So today, thank you. Today, we're taking historic action to help American workers, miners, families and consumers. We're ending Joe Biden's war on beautiful clean call, once and for all, and it wasn't just Biden, it was Obama.

Obama. Obama. But we're doing the exact opposite. Actually, there were a couple of executive orders he signed, just keeps on going. There's a short rundown of them as he was signing them. We have four items prepared for your signature this afternoon, sir. The first of these executive orders is maybe one of the most significant executive orders of your administration thus far.

This directs all departments and agencies of the federal government to end all discriminatory policies against the coal industry. This ends the leasing moratorium that prevents new coal projects on federal land and it's going to accelerate all permitting and funding for new coal projects to allow the coal industry to flourish under your leadership. Sir, there are currently dozens of coal plants in America that are in imminent danger of being forced to close based on unscientific and unrealistic policies enacted by the Biden administration. What we're going to do is essentially impose a moratorium on those policies taking effect

to protect coal plants that are currently operating to ensure that they're able to continue producing power and continue providing jobs to Americans in the coal industry. Sir, you've made grid reliability and security a key focus of this administration. This executive order is going to promote grid security and reliability by ensuring in part that our grid policies are focused on secure and effective energy production and energy transmission, as opposed to woke policies that discriminate against secure sources of power, like coal and other fossil fuels. So the coal is going to help. I mean, that's good, isn't it? That should bring down

energy prices in general. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Coal works. And it's clean. And it's clean and it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Oh, it looks like a helicopter went down in New York City in the river. In the river.

Well, these didn't happen downtown. Well, they're dead. That's not good. He had signed one other executive order for the new ambassador of Israel and made quite a funny remark. So the Senate confirmed Governor Huckabee to be your next ambassador to Israel earlier today. That's his commission as ambassador. And then we also have a transmittal letter to the president of Israel

requesting that he accept Governor Huckabee's, excuse me, Ambassador Huckabee's credentials. He's gonna be fantastic. He's gonna bring home the bacon. Even though bacon isn't too big in Israel. It's just the third layer. I had to clear that up. He caught himself. He did.

Before the news media makes fun of me, I might as well do it myself. Yeah, that was good. That was good. Funny. I like a it myself. Yeah, that was good. That was good. They're funny. I like a funny president. A couple of things here. Did you hear about the, remember that nut job who tried to

assassinate the president at Mar-a-Lago? Yeah, that guy. So, you know, we don't hear anything about any of these. You know, I don't know what is, what is Pam Bondi doing? Oh, oh, we got $500 million, a billion dollars worth of drugs. And she't know what is what is Pam Bondi doing? Oh, we got 500 million billion dollars worth of drugs and she's running around with cash. But I'd still like to know more about these assassination attempts and where did that really come from? And this is the is that crazy guy who also showed up in Ukraine helping out the Ukrainians. And this is a

new report. Ryan Wesley Ruth, the man arrested for trying to assassinate President Trump at his Mar-a-Lago golf course in September, tried to buy a rocket launcher from a Ukrainian contact with Trump's plane being his intended target, according to a new DOJ filing. The court documents reveal Ruth sent a photo of Trump's plane to a Ukrainian associate and wrote in a message, Trump's plane, he gets on and off daily.

In messages sent just one month before his arrest at Mar-a-Lago, Ruth said, send me an RPG rocket propelled grenade or stinger and I will see what we can do. Trump is not good for Ukraine. Ruth allegedly asked the associate about the price of the weapon and if it could be shipped and said, I need equipment so that Trump cannot get elected, according to prosecutors. He also said of the rocket, those items lost and destroyed daily and one missing would not be noticed. The DOJ says Ruth also discussed the assassination attempt at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania, to which Ruth allegedly said, I wish, through an encrypted messaging app.

In the DOJ's filing, prosecutors say attempting to purchase a destructive device to blow up President Trump's airplane lies squarely within the realm of an attempt on his life. And Ruth's statements about the purpose of the purchase, that he needs equipment so that Trump cannot get elected, drives home his intent. I wonder if that was part of that. Remember, there was a couple of news reports like, oh ISIS or they have a stinger, is they going to shoot the plane out of the sky? Do you remember that during the campaigning process? It doesn't come to mind, but I'm sure

it was. It could have been. Yeah. Now this guy was complete lunatic. Yeah, I guess. But This guy was complete lunatic. Yeah, I guess. But I think the other story is even the other guy that, that, that guy that looks like Elizabeth Warren, that guy who tried to shoot Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania is the more interesting story. We don't know anything about that group. Yeah, nothing, nothing, no. But the family, the eight cell phones or all these cell phones he had.

I think Ruth had a bunch of cell phones too. I don't understand why we can't, what's going on here that they can't tell us more. No, we need to know basis. No, instead we get important stories, John, very important stories, important stories like this one. Michelle Obama is putting to bed rumors that she and the former president are divorcing. Now is the time for me to start asking myself these hard questions of who do I truly want to be every day? Speaking on actress Sophia Bush's podcast, Mrs. Obama, now 61, spoke about her newfound

independence. The speculation about her marriage grew in January when former President Obama showed up solo to President Trump's inauguration and to Jimmy Carter's funeral. We start actually finally like going, what am I, what am I doing? You know, who am I doing this for? Um, yeah. And if it doesn't fit into the sort of stereotype of what people think we should do, then it gets labeled as something negative and horrible. She was in Hawaii on vacation during Carter's funeral. And she says she

chose not to attend the Trump inauguration. She says not being tied to political life and with her daughters now grown, she has more time for herself. They couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself, that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing. You know, this couldn't be a grown woman just making a set of decisions for herself. You know, I've been married three times, I've gone through two divorces and I can tell you she's getting divorced. This is obvious.

This is exactly what you say. Well, you know, the funny thing in the giveaway, the latest of these events is Obama showed up at some restaurant by himself and Secret Service guys that he had dinner with. That was a while ago. In other words, he went out to dinner by himself. Yeah, it's what you do. You go sit there alone.

You do. By the way, did I tell you something? I mean, I have eaten dinner by myself when I've been on the road, and I usually just go to the bar and have, cause I want to eat something or like just some restaurant. Like I was in Atlanta. I remember one time there was this famous place and I, you know, usually I can get a

PR woman or somebody to go out, but for some reason. Wait a minute. You have a, you have a Rolodex like, hey, PR lady, take me out to dinner. Yeah. I used to do that all the time. And I was extremely popular. Y'all bet. Because I would always go to these high-end restaurants and they would stick the client

with the bill and so I... Wait, who's the client? Who's the client? Oh, like a tech company? It'd be some big company and so I knew all these people and I said, hey, what about dinner tonight? I mean Atlanta or whatever. At Fringal. Yeah, definitely. And it wasn't Fringal. It was more like, you know, Florida Lee. And so it was always high end. And so I was very popular. I'll bet. As a guy that, because I just know how it went. It went like the women would say to the client, oh, geez, this is an awfully expensive dinner.

Yeah, but it's the tech grouch. Hello. It's like, yeah, I know, but I didn't want to do it, but he was insisting. So what am I supposed to say? I tried to get to a cheaper place, but he wouldn't do it. I can't just imagine the excuses. I mean, anybody, if you can get a meal on somebody else's dime, that's high end. Yeah You do it. Did I tell you that I found a Chinese restaurant in Fredericksburg?

Man is about ten jokes that are just coming and going I can't well I mean I always much for my timing. I'm driving by I'm like, there's a Panda Express in I'm driving by, I'm like, there's a Panda Express in Fredericksburg. Oh, Panda Express, not a Chinese restaurant. But wait, that's what I thought. It's not Panda Express, it's a Chinese restaurant called Panda. And Tina was out of town, I'm like, I'm going to go get some sweet and sour chicken. I just feel like, and I could even handle Panda Express. I walk in, it's a real Chinese restaurant with real Chinese And in Fredericksburg and like and I'm sure they had heard this before because I said I thought this was a Panda Express

This is locally owned business. Oh, okay This is not Panda Express this look 14 year locally owned business. Oh wow, and it was great Yeah, they gave him the Sapporo with a chilled glass. I mean the whole thing This is 14 year locally owned business. Oh, wow. And it was great. Yeah. They gave him the Sapporo with a chilled glass. I mean, the whole thing, I was blown away in Fredericksburg. Thank you very much for coming y'all. You know, they're doing their little Texas thing. It was great.

It was really cool. Of course. Did you just, was just eating alone? Did you, where was Tina? Yes. No, she was in Florida visiting her friend. Yeah. No,, I did. Was she just eating alone? Where was Tina? Yes, yes. No, she was in Florida visiting her friend. Yeah, no, I ate alone. So you were just a sad sack eating by yourself at a dinner?

At 5.30. Wow, even worse. In a Chinese restaurant. Yeah, you get that fortune cookie like, I don't want to look at it. This is no good. I'm here with myself. You'll be eating a load from what? That's right. Just a sad sack podcaster. What do you do for work? Podcast. Oh, okay.

I'm so sorry for you, podcaster. So please, here's a clip of this is the Poland scammer. Oh, all right. I once came across an author who used to write a book and then using a pen name offer reviews of his own book to the book editors at the newspapers. Well, one of the presidential candidates in Poland, Karol Norowski, has done something rather similar. He wrote a book under a pen name, then appeared on TV as the author, so he was wearing a disguise, and then went on to praise his real self as the genius inspiration behind the book, self-promotion on steroids. Well, the Polish journalist Bartosz Wilinski has been telling me more.

Well, this is a ridiculous case. Well a well rightish historian. He used to be a historian. Now he has been appointed as a candidate of a populist national party called Law and Justice. The abbreviation is EIS and they struggle to get into the second round of presidential election. He's being chased by the real far-right politician, Spavor Miumenson. But the problem with this person is that currently he hasn't been vetted good enough. Some shabby fragments of his past has been revealed by the media, his contacts to the neo-Nazi scene in northern Poland, some of people he knew personally were active members of the neo-Nazi groupings in Poland, his contacts to the people dealing with organized crimes were also revealed.

And this book is, you know, the cherry at the top. So I'm reminded and just deteriorate into discussions of about how Trump used to pull stunts like this when he was younger. Oh, yeah, he would call up. younger. Oh yeah, he would call up. Claiming to be a public relations person or somebody else and I forgot what the backstory is somebody must have. We've had clips of it. Yeah, I'm actually looking for it right now. I remember that quite distinctly. Here's another screwball story since we're on these stories. Let's go to a professor

arrested in Thailand. Oh, that's never good. An American academic living in Thailand is under arrest on a charge of insulting the monarchy. Thailand has a streak less majestic law. A single offense can land the guilty party with a prison sentence of up to 15 years. Paul Chambers is a lecturer at Nare Soen University

in Northern Thailand. His lawyers say he was denied bail and taken into custody on Tuesday. They added in a statement that the charge stems from a webinar invitation published on the website of a Singapore think tank in October. A blurb in the invitation refers to the appointment of high-ranking generals in the military and the role of the monarchy. Chambers lawyers say he had no involvement in the blurb on the website. The US State Department released a statement saying it is closely monitoring the situation. Less majestic prosecutions in Thailand have spiked in recent years with a rise of protest demanding that the monarchy be reformed. Yeah, you got to be careful with that kind of stuff.

the monarchy be reformed. Yeah, you got to be careful with that kind of stuff. Yeah, this is a very screwy story. But it's well known in Thailand. You do not insult the royal family. It's done. I mean, it was that way when I was there in 1990. You just don't do it. The story is actually screwier because everybody who talks about it has a different why, what was the insult and this one claims it was based on some blurb in a website for a seminar in Singapore. And then the other one, CBS, I believe it was said that it was because he, because it was a, he went to the seminar and did the Q and A and during the Q and A he asked to answer some question that any insulted the monarchy by accident. And so it's hard to say what happened here.

But yeah, you don't say anything. No. But why is there a monarchy in Thailand? Well, let's say it's ceremonial, John. It's like all monarchies. It's just ceremonial. Yeah. They say if it's so ceremonial, then why do people get so bent out of shape about anything?

Well, I'm glad we live in America because in America you can say whatever you want. And that's exactly what Senator Kennedy did regarding Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. This is a great place. It's too bad that Hannity rolls the bumper music underneath him, but it was still pretty funny. What do you think of the new leadership, Jasmine AOC and Bernie?

I consider Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to be the leader of the Democratic Party. She's entitled to her opinion. I'm entitled to mine. As I've said about her before, I think she's the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle. Our plan for dealing with her is called Operation Let Her Speak. Now contrast that with the UK who are proposing a new law. This is from GBN, the Great Britain News Network. And listen to this. Welcome back, GBN Tonight with me, Martin Dormney. Now the Labour-ran Rushmore borough council has sparked outrage by proposing a sweeping

injunction that could see Christian street preachers imprisoned for up to two years. If the injunction is breached, now over claims of causing offence or distress. Now under the proposed terms, Christians will be banned from praying for individuals Handing out religious leaflets or Bibles by hand and laying hands on people in prayer even with their permission Who's running the UK? Be if you'd listen to that report closely, yeah You can't touch anybody if If you're, you know, the healer, you know, you can't lay hands on somebody. You're supposed to heal them or you can't pray for anybody. If you pray for somebody, this is like a violation.

You can't hand them a Bible. Can't hand somebody a Bible. Cause that could hurt someone's feelings. I guess. Yeah. You know, Germany, I was really thinking about this. Germany, I mean, they are so clamped down, so locked up, the German people.

And when you hear this, I only have German clips so it doesn't really work for the show, but they're talking about when this war comes, they're so hyped up about war. And it's all... Gee, the Germans? Well, yeah, that's my point. That's a shocker.

That's my point. World War I, who started it? Who started it? Well, Germany is responsible for the thing getting out of control, that's for sure. World War II. Well, that was obviously Germans. And who was it always against? The French.

What about the Hundred Years War? There's all kinds, it goes way back in time. But why? I mean, speaking of Satan. They like to fight. But I don't think it's the people. But there's not that many good German boxers. I mean, what kind of fighting are they?

It's not the people, the governments there are fighting. It's not it's not the people the governments There are nuts. It's like something in the water over there and the German government goes crazy And you know now they're borrowing all this money to build their own war machine It's a matter yes, you know what yes, it's just a matter of time and I don't get it I don't understand how how can that happen time and time again? And it's going to be against France again. Obviously. I don't know why but it's always against France.

Leave the French alone. The French have had their issues too. Well, sure, but still it's just like I don't understand. Let's see. Mark Rutte was in Japan. Oh, here we go. Yeah. All right. Okay, Mark, sell us some more weapons.

First of all, let's acknowledge that the United States having to take care, not only of the Euro-Atlantic area, but also of the Indo-Pacific and of course the Middle East has to focus attention to more than one what is so-called theater at the same time. So it is totally logical that they try and this is happening now since 2010 basically and President Trump clearly stated that he wants to continue with the policy and maybe even speed it up. Oh stop, stop the clip. I have to say this is the only time this has happened.

But it's gotten to the point where you and him sound so close together. They don't even recognize it? I can't tell who's talking. So you could be slipping stuff in. I was. These clips. Yeah, I think you did. I don't know. I can't tell.

You've got this guy nailed. You have the same vocal intonation. It's very funny. President Trump, he has already said that we must go to the 5%. Clearly stated that he wants to continue with the policy and maybe even speed it up. Speed it up. To pivot more towards Asia.

That's totally logical. Pivot towards Asia, there we go. And also that they want the European and Canadian NATO allies to take more of a burden, share the burden in a more equal, in a fairer way. By paying more. It's only logical that where the US is spending 3.4, 3.5% of GDP on defense, that they want for Europe to equalize with what the US is spending 3.4 3.5 percent of GDP on defense that they want for Europe to equalize with what the US is spending.

Five. And by the way, not because the US is asking this, but NATO as a whole, if it would stick with the original 2 percent goal, we cannot defend ourselves going forward in three to five years against the Russians. It is that simple. What is this three to 5 years against the Russians? Are the Russians coming? And luckily we are.

And so the spending is ramping up. And then to the question, it means that we have, it is an end-end policy. We have to spend more on the European-Canadian side of NATO. Yes, but why are you in Japan, Mr. Rutte? You are a member of NATO, so why are you in Japan Mr. Rutte? You are a member of NATO, so why are you in Japan? The US will over time pivot more towards Asia. This is happening already and that will continue. That's only logical. It's logical? What is this?

It's logical. It's only logical because we have to get in the Pacific to screw around with the Chinese. And at the same time, the president made very clear in my meeting with him now a month ago that it is important for NATO to be also involved here. What in the Pacific is NATO? Is that the Pacific? Through the IP4, so that is the Republic of Korea, Australia, New Zealand and of course... They're on IPv4 there?

What's the IP4? IP4? I have no idea IPv4? IPv4. I have no idea. IPv4? Indo-Pacific Four agreement? I have no idea. IPv4? What is that? By the way, the only thing you're doing that you're not nailing is his stutter. Yeah, it's hard. It's very hard.

He had the da-da-da-da. He always says da-da-da-da a lot. The only thing that this is... It's logical. The only thing that is missed is logical. Yeah, I like that. It's logical. It's logical. You can work on that. Here it is. NATO is strengthening dialogue and cooperation with its partners in the Indo-Pacific region.

Australia, Japan and Republic of Korea and New Zealand. This is a very complex security environment, you see. The biggest economy in the IP4 and the only g7 economy not in NATO and that is Japan Japan and that's exactly why I'm here to get you in you get your money Get this pen to the money and that's exactly why I'm here to discuss defense industrial production innovation space Japan already is participating in many activities About extending article 5 to the Indo-Pacific.

No, not about that, just getting you many. No, this is the collective defense clause. That will not happen. But to have a more integrated way of working together, to really have these, to acknowledge that these two areas, the Indo-Pacific and the Euro-Atlantic, cannot be seen as separate. This is exactly why I'm here. Okay, he's shaking you down. He goes to this long crazy talk and this is exactly why I'm here. He's shaking him down, man.

It's a shakedown. This is what it sounds like. It's amazing, this guy. It would be, it's so funny because he's such a twerp, a nerd, a loser, a dork. Everybody knows it. Now he's like big man on campus. Oh, Mark Rutte is coming.

If for any Dutchman in the past 12 years who's been in Holland at all, it's just like, we can't believe this guy is, is, is the top NATO dog. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's crazy. Well, it's good for the show since we have a clone of him sitting there on the other mic. Yes. The only thing is we need to ramp it up to 5%. That's it.

We have to equalize, not because the US wants this, but because it is only fair that we share the burden. Share the burden. I'm getting there. Meanwhile back home at the ranch, that nut job professor from Princeton University, Eddie Glaude, you know the guy? No. When you hear him, you will. He hasn't gotten the memo.

It's like, don't you know that we've already moved way beyond this? There's different things to talk about. We've got terrorists, we got trade, we got all kinds of things. But no, he's still, Trump is racist. You have to grapple with it because it's the snake, it's the beast coiled up in the heart, the bosom of the country as Frederick Douglass said and the fact that they are doubling down on this shows you what kind of human beings they actually are. Say more. We chose a felon who is more interested in loyalty, who's

more interested in retribution, who's more interested in grift than in democracy. And we chose a felon because we didn't want to elect a black woman. So to read that, is to say we would rather destroy the Republic than for that to have happened. And until we grapple with it, there's no amount of protesting I could do. There's no amount of resistance that could come into play to actually force 78 million people to grapple with what motivated them to put themselves in this position.

This guy, he does he have tenure? He must have tenure. I can't believe he's a professor. He just seems like a dumb, a huge dummy, racist. Yes, he's super racist. He's unbelievable. And then Nicole Wallace, say more. Say more, please. It's great. Say more. I don't know what to do with these people. All right, John, give us one more. Give them some good. Let's do some stuff on Trump's health. This was from NPR.

They talk about his health because now we're going to slowly move in that direction because you know, we know that he's nuts. Oh, I see. Yeah, we got to do that. That makes sense. At 78 years old, Trump is the oldest president to start his second term. Old is old. At 78 years old, Trump is the oldest president to start his second term. He follows former President Biden, who visibly slowed down while in office. NPR Senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith reports. When he first ran for office in 2015, then candidate Trump's doctor put out a statement

that described his lab results as astonishingly excellent and concluded he would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. The doctor later said Trump had dictated it to him. Then came Dr. Ronnie Jackson. Some people have just great genes. I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old. I don't know.

Trump is known for his love of McDonald's and isn't a fan of exercise. Jackson was Trump's first White House physician. In January 2018, he held court in the briefing room, answering questions at length about the president's health, including his cognitive health. I was not going to do a cognitive exam. I had no intention of doing one. The reason that we did the cognitive assessment is plain and simple because the president asked me to do it. Jackson said Trump scored a 30 out of 30. Years later in a Fox News interview, Trump described the test.

Like you'll go person, woman, man, camera, TV. It's a very basic assessment that includes remembering a short series of unrelated words. Person woman man, camera TV. They say, that's amazing. How did you do that? I do it because I have like a good memory because I'm cognitively there. Since the end of his first term, Trump has released very little health information, just a 2023 doctor's letter without any data saying he'd lost weight and quote, his cognitive exams were exceptional. You know, you're right.

This is the rotation, the Trump rotation. You know what's coming next after the health thing. It's going to be another, it's another woman. Like he raped me, scandal. He groped me. You can just wait because they really want to hurt Melania. That's, that's, that's what they like the most. Cause you know, that gets to him. I think you can just market. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. They always do it.

This is just a setup for something. They're going to work on it for the future. This is why this operation, the NPR and PBS politicians, they don't deserve any government money whatsoever. I'm reminded, by the way, I didn't get to talk about this, there's a second part to this, but I'm reminded of the taking the money away from the voice of America. So I went over to the website and looked around. It's all anti-Republican, anti-Trump propaganda. I mean, one, there was one piece on the Voice of America website that was just nothing more than condemning Trump's whole approach to terrorists.

I thought the offices were emptied out. There's still people posting. No, the offices are empty, but their website's still there, still up. And yeah, I couldn't get any record. That's why I didn't bring it into the show because I couldn't get any new recordings because they stopped going out on the air with anything. But they still had it on the website. You could tell what they were doing. And yeah, it's anti-Republican propaganda operation. Shouldn't getting American money money, taxpayer money, I

should say. That is part two of this. There's more to this? Oh my, how much more can they do? Last year, President Biden's doctors chose not to give him a cognitive exam, something press secretary, Kareem Jean-Pierre was forced to defend repeatedly. The president himself, he said it today. He said it multiple times.

And the doctor has said this, everything that he does day in and day out as it relates to delivering for the American people is a cognitive test. Even after Biden dropped out of the race, Trump leaned in on cognitive testing as a campaign issue. We should have cognitive tests for anybody that runs for president and vice president.

Trump has been known to jumble words and during the campaign wobbled like he might fall when getting into a garbage truck and he is acutely aware that some have raised questions about his fitness. Take this from a rally in October. I'll be a little thing and I'll say something a little bit like the, I'll say the, they'll say he's cognitively impaired. No, I'll let you know when I will be. I will be someday.

We all will be someday, but I'll be the first to let you know. S.J. Olshansky is a professor of public health at the University of Illinois at Chicago who has studied the health of presidents. He says there are many armchair neurologists, but a president's doctor is the only one who truly has all the necessary context. But keep in mind medical records are private. Presidents do not have to reveal their medical records. And in fact there is a long history of presidents concealing their health challenges. Jeff Kuhlman was

a physician in the Clinton, Bush, and Obama White Houses. He points to what happened when President Woodrow Wilson had a stroke. His second wife and his physician, a young Navy doctor, they covered up for him for several months and they were not truthful with the American people. Coleman says there's no requirement for a presidential physical, but the public and media expect them now. To me, the purpose of the physical for the president is to give him honest feedback about, here's how your heart's doing,

here's how your brain function's doing. Whether that honest feedback is also shared with the public is another question entirely. Yeah, the rotations in play. Where is our rotation? We should do the Trump rotation. It's online somewhere. No, we have it.

We have the, here we go, Trump rotation. Here it is. I have my list and you might want to see if there's anything I left out. This is the Trump rotation. There's two categories. There's the regular and then there's the criminal. But here we go. Ready?

Yep. Liar. There's two categories. There's the regular and then there's the criminal. But here we go, ready? Yep. Liar, incompetent, unhinged, illegitimate president, white supremacist, racist, bully, immature, Russian agent, narcissist, mean, long ties, insane, tweets too much, small hands, small penis, big red button, criminal, mean, racist,

immature, thin skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th amendment should be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice, money laundering and clown. John, no wonder we're making America white again. There you go. This is Trump rotation. The one clip I've been looking at all show, I've been waiting for you to play it, and that could be our last one is the vacuum phone

NPR that just looks so in time. Yeah, I was gonna this was a good clip. This was a Would have been a good follow-up for my phone Material, but this was a new ideas. This is the kind of this also refers back to Tucker Carlson's vapid vapidity vapidness of the CEO class. And this is just an eye roller of a clip about what Samsung thinks might sell here. Samsung has a new vacuum with an unexpected feature. It can alert you to incoming calls and texts.

The company's new washer and dryer can also make phone calls. The appliances are part of a new AI product line, and Samsung isn't alone. LG, GE, and others are also pushing AI in their home devices. But do consumers want AI in a vacuum cleaner? Online reviews have been skeptical, suggesting the features aren't worth the premium price,

and only 15% of households own a smart large appliance. Some experts say companies are just throwing out ideas to see what works. That is so true. We went looking for a new… Tina's always hated this refrigerator that came with the house. We went looking for one at Costco. It's almost impossible to buy a refrigerator that isn't a smart fridge, that doesn't have a screen

that isn't connected to some system and that gives you recipes and great tips. I mean, you're right. They're just throwing ideas at the wall. More stuff we don't need. I want stuff that works. There you go. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning. We do have a number of producers to thank, $50 and above. We love the producers who support us monetarily. It is time, talent, and treasure for our value for value model. Also, John's very valued tip of the day is coming up and to show mixes and we have some meter reports including the meter report from your birthday extravaganza. So, take it away, John. Yeah, let's start with Beth. Beth Elliott, she's at the top of the list. Coryton. Tennessee, 13369. Stefan.

Trockels. Trockels in Sust. Sust. Deutschland. Sust. Sust. Sust is not, hold on. Sust is not Deutschland. Sust is the Netherlands.

No, it says Deutschland here. Doesn't seem right. Miss Trockel sounds Dutch. Or Dutch, sounds Deutsch. Yeah, well says Deutschland here. Doesn't seem right. His trackel sounds Dutch. Dutch sounds Deutsch. Well, just saying. Christopher, whatever. Look how many Albanese there are in the United States. Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 10535.

Scott Merrill in Calabasas, California, 9176. Patrick Stasiak in Saginaw, Michigan, 8810. It's actually Patrick Stasiak. Stasiak. OK. And this is 8810. This is double nipples on the dime. Brother.

Okay. Well, it's better than... Okay. Kevin McLaughlin's was just a straight 8008 boobs donation. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of American, lover of boobs. Eric Mintz in Alleghen, Alleghen. Alleghen or Alleghen, one of the two, 8008 Michigan. Thank you for your courage and all your hard work. Four more years. Yes.

Black Knight Laurie, L-A-U-R-I in Helsinki, Florida, Florida, Helsinki, Finland. We haven't heard from him in a long time. No, 7643. He is Black Knight from Helsinki. That's right. Interesting. Welcome back, Black Knight. John Spear, Yardley, Pennsylvania, 7643.

No longer a douchebag. Give him a D-douching. You've been D-douched. He shares the April 5th birthday. Good for him. You've been deduced. He shares the April 5th birthday. Good for him. Johnny Shogan in South Golan Beach, Australia. Another happy birthday called 7643. Sirent. Sirent. Sirent in Arlington, Washington.

7640, there's another happy birthday fellow, Boomer. We need a Boomer donation so see how many Boomers support the show. Yeah. Maybe 6446 to represent born before 64, but not before 46. Yes. I'm liking that one.

I'm sure Adam would argue the date range. No, I would not because I was born in 64. So I'm all in on this date range. 64 is the cutoff. It says born before 64. I like 6446. I think that's great. I think the boomer donation is on. It's boomer donation is go. It's go. Boomers are go. It's a go. Approved. Steven Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75. These are all the happy birthday donations that are still following. They're still going. Mark, uh, uh, Bischleveld, I don't know. What do you think? Bijlveld, I don't know. What do you think? Mark Bleyfeld Bleyfeld, oh yes. It's a Dutch name. It's Dutch.

And he's in Hadham, Connecticut. A former paperboy. Boomer, okay Boomer. You got to be a Boomer if you're a paperboy. You're a boomer. Yeah, I'd say Maple Grove, Minnesota has got a happy birthday. I'm just gonna read the names and locations here Steven Mon and Plymouth, Michigan Micro chip Nick and East Hampton you got to read this one. Happy birthday John you Zionist shill. Jeroen Snelders. There's another Dutch one. Jeroen Snelders.

Jeroen. Jeroen Snelders in Ennis, Texas. Charles Schultz in, not the, but the. Not the Charles Schultz in not the, but the, Anniston, Alberta, US, Alberta. It's not US. It says US. Yeah. That's like a Seuss is in DE. Sure. Never trust the spreadsheet.

73, 73 from WJ 4K. 73s. Sir Vant. You missed Sir Tommy Hawk. 73-73 from WJ 4K. 73s. Sir Vant. You missed Sir Tommy Hawk. Sir Tommy Hawk. Sir Tommy Hawk's in Iowa City, Iowa. 73. Now we have random donations back to them.

Sir Vant in Arlington, Washington. And look at his number. 64-46. 64-46. Boomer donation. It's on. it hasn't even been established yet and yet we have two on today's show boomer donation is go wow that's another random number thing happening to us Teresa Andrews and car Camarillo California and this is 6161 which is an Aunt Gigi donation. Here we go. That's an Aunt Gigi. 6161 Aunt Gigi donation has also go.

I got to start writing these down. Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado, 606. Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 6006. That's interesting again. Uh, Jeff Gibbs in Pangly, Pangly, Minnesota, 5510. Probably Pangilly. Happy birthday to Rick Gibbs from your brother. Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado.

We just had Trinidad. Another one, 5272. We just had Trinidad. Another one, 5272. Stephen Still in Daquan, Illinois. And this is a prayer for Raleigh Hawk of Southern Illinois, Sir Raleigh. Uh oh, we have to give him an emergency cancer. Let me read this. His large brain tumor was removed but he is back in the hospital on a ventilator and ICU at Barnes due to complications Please everyone pray for our brother Raleigh lineman of the net yes of course who will and we'll hit you with an emergency f-cancel

You've got Karma prayers up for you Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa. Uh, 51. Bad Ideas Supply. Go to their website. Bad Ideas Supply for your bad ideas. They have all the best burning gear you can buy. 50.

Now, these are 50 dollar donors. Just name and location starting with Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington. Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee. Jacob Rotremel in Decatur, Illinois. Could be Jacob. Uh, William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware, Renee, uh, Kenan Kenish, Kenig, Kenigie in Ulltrecht.

Knigge, Knigge, Renee Knigge. Kenigge. Uh, Roderick Brown in Mermaid. Petaluma? What is P.E.? What state is P.E.? It's in the, it's in Scandinavia. Oh, it's in Canada.

Oh, what province is P.E.? I don't know what province P.E. is. Well, she's there. She's in Canada. Or he's in Canada or he's in Canada. Roderick is in mermaid. Uh, William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Got that one. Gerald wazoo. He's up in West minister. Hold on. Let me read this. He's got a long note.

This is not Gerald, but Grand Wazoo. He says, in the morning. I said Gerald. Yes, you did. In the morning. Grand Wazoo. Grand Wazoo. In the morning, John, I just want to thank you

for mentioning the light phone. There it is on episode 1753. My son is 12 and biking to and from school, three and a half miles away, no big deal. But in today's world, I'd like a more reliable communication source with him, other than the walkie talkiesies which have gotten us this far. Three and a half miles is quite a distance.

We're all on the same page. The light phone seems to be perfect, offering all he needs and eliminating everything I despise. You guys really are an invaluable resource. No exit strategy for you. Much love, Grand Wazoo. That's right. The light phone 3, that's the one you want. Steven Schumach in Xenia, Ohio.

Dame Code Red in Huntsville, Arkansas. David Asari in West Hollywood, California. And last on our list is good old Jason, Sir Jason D'Aluzio in Miami Beach, Florida. I wanna thank these people for making a show. 1754, the good show that it became. Indeed, and we appreciate everybody who came in. Under $50, we never read names there

for reasons of anonymity. People still like that. And also we have those recurring donations. Go to noagendadonations.com. You can fill out, I like that these numbers, the numerology's coming back with the boomer donation and what was the other one? The 6161, what was that?

Hold on a second, what was it? 61? Oh, on Gigi donation. We used to do a lot more of this. So bring back those numerology donations. We love them. We love trying to figure them out. And again, the sustaining donations, any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you.

It is value for value. Go to NoAgendaDonations.com. John Spear celebrated on April 5th. Darth Penguin, happy birthday, he says, to totally not serial killer Kate. Daymaster, as we heard earlier, happy birthday to Sir Mark. Jeff Gibbs, happy birthday to his brother Rick Gibbs. And John, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, he says, to totally not serial killer Kate. Daymaster, as we heard earlier, happy birthday to Sir Mark Jeff Gibbs. Happy birthday to his brother Rick Gibbs and John Bye, as in BYE BYE BYE, is 56 today. Happy birthday to all of you from the best podcast in the universe. So we have no knights, no dames, no title changes, but we do have one Commodore. We are very proud to welcome our brand new Commodore.

Do we say Commodore Center Light? Congratulations, Commodore arriving. Go to noahjinderrings.com, brand new Commodore, and let us know what name you want on your certificate. It is a beautiful piece, it's suitable for hanging. It is a beautiful title that you will like to have. And give us an address where to send it to, Commodore ship, and we thank you for your courage courage now let's take a look at those meetups

all right full on meetup reports the first one is from the John C. Dvorak birthday bash extravaganza oh yeah they went all crazy and started editing it so here is the report for you this is sir Rick Altshagen crazy Steve the second we're here at John's bday birthday extravaganza and we're about to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear John. Let's kill. Dear you and many more. What'd you wish for John? That you wouldn't have sung this song.

In the morning. Wow, that sounds like a rowdy bunch over there at the birthday bash. Almost as rowdy as the kids in New York City. What a hoot nanny they have. In the morning, we're just coming gone and spring has sprung. This is Dan Franco, host of the Manhattan No Agenda Meetup at the Perfect Client West, Thursday, April 3rd, 2025. There are eight producers here, three of which are sirs.

Again, thank you all for attending the meetup. Hey, this is Sir Spoonmaker from the Manhattan Meetup. Connection is protection, trains good, planes bad. Woohoo! In the morning, here from New York City, Sir Chancey. Hey, in the morning, it's Sir Michael Anthony, also known as the Mayor, you know. By the way y'all heard I'm off the hook But y'all knew that already. Hey, it's Mk. Ultra mark. I'm enjoying the meetup tonight with all the boys

We're having a good time and shout out to all the slaves and the trolls out there. Love you Adam and John C Hello, this is Dan began. My pronouns are ITM. I'm in the heart of New York City with beautiful meetup folks and there may or may not be DMT here. Hey! Hear the Caribbean guy telling everybody to do the thing that enlightens them into a greater state of being. DMT.

This is Jen and I'm at the meetup at the Perfect Pint in New York City having a great time with the No Agenda folks. My name is Connor from Wicklow, Ireland and I'm serving the No Gender show and they're being great tippers tonight in Morden. Happy birthday John! Ah, love it. You got your server in there clearly operating illegally in the country, but that's okay And it sounds like there were some drugs at that in particular meetup

We do not necessarily condone that here the no agenda show but connection is protection. That's true You get it whenever you go to a no agenda meetup and you can go to the outer swamp meetup right now actually At the dogfish head ale house in Gaithersburg, Maryland. I think that's a new location, so hopefully we got notified in time. Tomorrow, Friday, Central Wisconsin, Waussau meetup at 4 o'clock at Skonis in Schofield, Wisconsin. Hi-Fi Intel meetup at Fastler Hall, 6 o'clock at Fastler Hall in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, also on Friday.

On Saturday, the Colorado Springs No Mutton Just Meetup at noon at Antelope Ridge Metery in Colorado Springs. We have the South Jersey Easter Gathering at 1 o'clock at Miller's Ale House also on Saturday, Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey. The Treasure Valley Boise Meetup at 3 o'clock at Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho. And again on Saturday, it's a busy day. Fort Wayne Club 33 NPR Easter Egg Extravaganza at 3 33 PM Halls, Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

We have the 14th Northwest Houston Noagenta Meetup at 7 o'clock at Wakefield Crowbar in Houston, Texas. You're Sir Economic Hitman organizing that for you. And on the next show day, a couple of meetups. We have I Must Be High, number 16 at Granite Brewery in Toronto, Ontario, your Sir Economic Hitman organizing that for you. And on the next show today, a couple of meetups. We have I Must Be High, number 16 at Granite Brewery in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and the Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not Shaken Meetup,

three o'clock at Blind Owl Brewery. That's always 100 people there at Indianapolis, Indiana. That's Mark and Maria of The Greenwood who are hosting that. And finally, the TooManyEgg too many eggs calm keen New Hampshire meetup It's their 11th gathering 333 at margaritas Mexican restaurant in keen New Hampshire just a sampling of the meetups that are taking place all around gitmo nation They are taking place all around the world. You can go to no agenda meetups calm. You can list your meetup there

You can find them. You can find them by calendar. you can find them by name. Just look at the list, it's a long one. And as always, if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy like a party. That's what's so great about it. It's always like a party. It's always like a party. Is there going to be another Fredericksburg meetup? I think in May. I'm excited.

Another one hanging out here at the 1776. Rick Alston and Steve wants to bring one to, wants to go there. Well, there's Matt Long and his beautiful wife, Gail. They're gonna do it with Jenny over there at 1776 again. All the J6ers. Make it, yeah. All the J6ers hang out there.

I got nothing to do with it. Okay, well, here we go. This is the moment that we all dreamt. Here we go, here's where you get depressed. I do. I get very depressed. More of the AI. Yeah, more of your AI nonsense. More of the dad-cheesy size.

I have two ISOs. They're real ISOs, not fake like John's. Here's the first one. I have a real one. Here's my first one. I just have one word for this. Perfect. Hmm? You know, I said it wasn't so echoey. Here's my first one. I just have one word for this. Perfect. You're not sure it wasn't so echoey.

Well, how about this one then? Yo, yo, yo, what up? Come on, come on. Yo, yo, yo, what up? That's not bad. It's not great, but it's not bad. Who sent you that? Yeah, of course someone sent it to me. Yo, yo, yo, what up? Very me. Yo, yo, yo, what up?

Very white yo, yo, yo, what up, but we'll take it. Very white. We'll take it. We'll take it. All right, what you got? Okay, we got here's the real one. This is prophecy. The prophecy has been completed. Hmm somebody sent that in. Yeah. Yeah, I can poor woman. It was yeah. Yeah, it took woman. Yeah Okay, we can do I cannot do better. You can't do better than that if you tried I recognize that guy. Yeah. Yeah, it's Caleb. Yeah, it's kids right is Caleb from 11 lives Yes, and then your final one So good that show was so good. I Don't know man. Yo, yo, yo, what up? I think my use it use your yo yo, it's better

Thank you very much. And now it's time for the moment. You've all been waiting for John C. DeBorek's tip of the day created vibes for you and me just the tip with JCB and sometimes Adam created by Dana Bernetti well you had your tip of the day for today uh, I did? oh brother, you teased it last show uh, I forgot what it was

wow, okay so you don't have a tip? no, I do have a tip oh, thank goodness I'm sorry, I completely spaced on that. That's my mistake. Okay, now this was suggested by one of the producers and I said, yeah, you know, the problem was, here's the tip and everyone should have one or two of these and I did have some thoughts about it. And this is the window breaking tool that you should have in your car that's got a diamond

tip. It's usually called an emergency seat belt cutter and window hammer. Everybody needs one. It's got a blade on it. Because what happens, you get into a wreck, especially in one of these electric cars, and the power goes out, you can't get out of the seat belt, you cut the seat belt, then you take the little hammer and you tap. It doesn't take much because it's got a diamond tip or it's carbide,

whatever tip it has. You snap it against a window, shatters you can get out of there, uh, as opposed to not being able to roll it down if it's electric. So the, the, the producer said, well, you know, I, what's the best of these? That's the question. This is why it's a tip of the day. We want the absolute best. Well, I don't, you can't determine the absolute best without busting your car window. So, or going to a junkyard and saying, can I test a bunch of these things on your cars? Here, see which one breaks the window best.

Now, I would suggest simply put going to Amazon and getting the $9.95, do you get two of them? And it's a two pack and it's got 27,000 reviews that average four and a half stars. And I think that's probably gonna work. The little ones that got a motor in them, the ones that pop the thing out. A motor, a motor?

Got a little thing, it's a spring loaded, and bing, it supposedly breaks the window. No, you want a hammer. Yeah, you want a hammer, yeah. So you can bash it. Now, you can look at these, there's a spring loaded and bing it did supposedly breaks the window no you want a hammer yeah you want a hammer yeah so you can bash it and then you can look at these there's a bunch of different ones and it has to have a cutter now here's what I was here's the real issue that's not discussed and probably really the more important part of the tip all right so you're in the car you got the thing usually you keep it in the little side pocket of the driver's seat. You reach in there and you can grab it and you can cut the seatbelt and bang the window.

What happens if you're in a rollover? The thing comes out of the side pocket, bounces around the car, you're stuck with the seatbelt and it's out of reach. Oh no. What do you do? What do you do? What do you do? Oh, well you should have it on a, around your neck on a string. Whenever you drive.

You have to, what you have to do is you have to secure it somehow. You either glue it or it should be secured or put a string around it and tie it to something. Yeah. So it, so it doesn't get too far away. get too far away if you have a horrible situation. And even just a collision, it could jar it loose and move it into the back seat. You should have a holster like a leg holster, like a calf holster, and always have it in there when you're driving, just in case.

There's you, but this is a situation that people should think about. A lanyard, how about a lanyard? But this is a situation that people should think about. A lanyard. How about a lanyard? Well, I'm just saying anything. But just think about what happens. How about don't drive an electric vehicle? You got more chance of surviving. Well, no, even in a regular car, you drive into the lake.

I mean, there's a million. You don't want to use these things. You just have to. You should have them, though, just in case, because you don't want to get stuck in the car but you have to consider the fact that it'll get jostled and moved around in the vehicle if the car flips or rolls over does anything and so you'd have to secure it somehow so just think about that but everyone should have one of these things the hammering that's right everybody everyone needs one tip of these things. Stop the hammering! That's right, everybody. Everyone needs one.

Tipoftheday.net, noagendafun.com for John's tip of the day. Wow. Your tips are great. Kind of morbid, but they're great. Well, that one is. Yeah, kind of morbid but they're great well that one is yeah like kind of kind of you know but it's a safety tip it's no I understand it's a safety tip but still it's like a morbid man it's like death death death death there's no death if you have no it not if you have it on a lanyard coming up we got end of show mixes from Leo Lapew, Neil Jones and Tom Starkweather. A lot of money involved. Up next on the No Agenda stream, trollroom.io and your modern podcast app, we have our big

dumb mouth. Oh, it's good. They're back. They were on some kind of hiatus. People are a little concerned. I'm glad they're back on the stream. Good to see you guys. Good for you kids.

And we will return on Sunday with more of your media deconstruction. I wonder what that will be to talk about. I'm sure there's something we can pull apart for you. In the meantime, don't worry, it's just like COVID. It's all gonna be okay. You're not gonna die. But your iPhone, yeah, you might have to trade that one in.

Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday. Please remember us at noagenderdonations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.

For all of us! Your love gives me such a thrill. It is real! But your love won't pay my bills, I want money. You're gonna get a check. That's what I want. Who wants just taking money? Coronavirus! A lot of celebrities, they have to make a release to pay $34,000 or whatever the fuck it costs to get tested and get treated.

Poor, whatever the price. They don't fucking have that money. The fuck? Look at that. I want money. Wuhan, China. I want money. Guess what, bitch? I want so much money. Coronavirus! Get it through!

Give me your money. It's party time. Just give me your money. We're on a barrage, get it through! Woo! It's party time. Woo! We're doing shots! Gonna give everybody cash. I want my check. The risk is to the money. Not to the person.

To the money. to the money the risk is to the money not to the person to the money and the risk is not to the person. The risk is to the money. To the money.

I don't think this entire line of questioning is meant to be real questions and so I will not reply. How can you spoil a system that is already broken? I don't know why Speaker Pelosi or anybody else would be saying, oh here, we're sorry, we don't want to upset you, we'll give you more money. I did great, I made a lot of money. Any collusion? You know, the Russia collusion, delusion, absolutely no collusion between Trump and the Russia.

I reserve the right to my time. It is not right. That was not a question. You have to reprogram the Russia. I reserve the right to my time. It is not, it is not right. That was not a question. You have to reprogram the money. The media at this point is parsing words in a way that the average Virginians aren't. No agenda in the morning. The best podcast in the universe.

Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash NA Yo yo yo, what up?