No Agenda - 1756 - "AG Barbie"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Turn the plane around. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, April 17th, 2025. This year award winning Kimba Nation Media Assassination Episode 1756. This is No Agenda. Behind the trade lines and broadcasting live. Parral the runway to four at Striple Airport in Amsterdam, the Netherlands.

Starting point is 00:00:21 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we want to bring back Elion Gonzalez from Costa Rica. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Who? Is that the guy in El Salvador? Remember Elion Gonzalez?

Starting point is 00:00:39 Oh, the kid, the kid. The little kid where they put a big gun in his face. And they took him out of the country. This was I think during Clinton or whenever. No, no, Obama. It was Obama. It was Obama. Obama.

Starting point is 00:00:51 Obama. Okay. Yeah, it was Obama. And so they rousted this kid and shoved it. They just took him out of the country and sent him to Cuba. That was great. And nobody made a fuss about that. It was great.

Starting point is 00:01:01 No, it was a little bit of a fuss. Yeah, but not just like the fuss we're getting over this guy. It was hilarious little bit of a fuss. Yeah, but not like the fuss we're getting over this guy. It was hilarious. That was so cool. If I recall, we had quite the field day with that. But he learned Gonzalez? Yes, of course we did. Poor kid. When was that? Hold on a second. Nobody made a fuss about that kid and they took him out of the country without a hearing. that kid and they took him out of the country without it was out of hearing. Hold on a second. He wasn't a gay hairdresser. Gonzalez. We talked about, yeah, wait, 2020? No. 2016.

Starting point is 00:01:37 Yeah. It was at the end of Obama. Let me see. Yeah, it was the end of Obama. Let me see. Though we talked about it then, but it was, maybe it was during, I don't know, it was during Clinton. Okay. Yeah, I think it was during Clinton. Holy crap. Well, that's before the show.

Starting point is 00:01:56 Doesn't count. Oh well. Yeah. Anyway, I'm here in the Netherlands, John. In Gippel Nation. You sound like you're next door? I know, the technology is amazing. And I have to tell you, even though I'm getting a little too old for this, going until one

Starting point is 00:02:14 in the morning on jet lag, I'm very happy I came. We needed this for the show. Why? Because I got a first-hand boots on. Our Dutch producers have not, or any of our EU producers for that matter, have not really been doing a good job of telling us what's going on here. Well, that is not much of a surprise. First of all, if you drive a Tesla in Europe, you are the biggest a-hole in the universe.

Starting point is 00:02:44 People have bought other cars and parked their Tesla in the garage. They do not drive Teslas. And why might this be? Elon Musk. What's Elon Musk got to do with Europe? That's my point. Going through the books over there? Is he over there? That's my point. They hate him just because you're supposed to hate him. People here, well first of all, it's very gray and depressing. That is not a big surprise and that never helps. I get campy. It's April.

Starting point is 00:03:15 April showers, May flowers. Come on. No, no, no. Remember it always rains on Queen's Day or King's Day. So it's up until April 30th. No, no, it's gray and depressing. People hate Elon Musk. Why? It doesn't, well... Does the media have them under such control over there that they... Yes, yes, yes, and yes again. Wow.

Starting point is 00:03:41 And I was... And the question is question is why the house the media get controlled to such an extreme that they care about Elon Musk as a as a as a point of interest. That's the bad. No sense. That's the baffling part But I went to a I'm here for two reasons Of course to see my daughter. I'll see her tomorrow, but I came for My buddy Lex's 80th birthday He was the guy who first hired me at Radio Veronica when I was 19 years old. We've remained friends and he decided to do a big party, 200 guests, handpicked, only only special people, Casablanca themed. And it was everybody

Starting point is 00:04:22 from Dutch radio, television and anybody who was anybody was here and Holy moly They are completely mind-controlled But with it with a little bit of a twist also with a little bit of a twist But has to be somewhat different. No, no, no, no. So everybody's like, hey, Adam, how you doing? Yeah, I'm doing great. Oh, you look good.

Starting point is 00:04:51 OK, right after that. Hey, you live in Texas? Yeah. Are you a Trump supporter? A Trump supporter? Everyone had the same question. Not did you vote for Trump? Are you a Trump supporter?

Starting point is 00:05:05 I said, well, I support any president as far as I can. But yeah, I voted for him. And then you see their faces go, huh? You know, it's like the switch is flipped. But isn't he a racist? What? John, I'm not kidding. And people just like, they couldn't compute, they couldn't navigate me, the nice 19 year

Starting point is 00:05:31 old kid they saw come in and who they knew for 40 years with someone who actually supports his president and might have voted for Trump. And you see the brain freeze occur. And the, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, but, but what is he doing? We don't understand what he's doing. Oh, okay. Calm down. Calm down. And so he, and I, after two or three of these conversations, I figured out the switch and I figured out what's going on. So I say, let me just tell you why

Starting point is 00:06:05 America voted for him. But wait, wait, it wasn't a landslide. Oh man, you can just see the media and these people are in media so they're in the milieu so that's all they're a part of. And this is what was so great about this. This is not taxi Eric who drives me around. Taxi Eric's like, we need a statue of Trump on damn square. Okay, Eric, we understand that you get it. But these people in the milieu, they do not understand. They're completely engulfed in it. And so then I would say, well, you know, we have like 20 million people who came in illegally.

Starting point is 00:06:43 Say 20 million? Yeah, that's probably about the right estimate and a million of those are criminals So we're getting those out and everybody seems to be happy the cities everyone's happy with okay. Okay, I said and this gender ideology, you know, we have man woman no boys and girls sports and And none of this DEI and they go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, woman, no boys and girls sports and none of this DEI. And they go, oh, yeah, yeah. And that that would flip the switch. And they go, yeah, I wish we had someone who did that here.

Starting point is 00:07:14 And there it was, because they are so completely. Inundated, suppressed, told the shut up about immigration, about DEI gender ideology, about climate change still, funny enough. And until you explain to them what the big things were and they can all of a sudden identify, then they go, oh, then they get this kind of look of bewilderment. And then usually they'll say, well, well, you know, but now we have to get a big military because America is going to desert us and Russia is going to take over. At that point, I gave up.

Starting point is 00:08:02 It was sad. It was sad to see. And I think people kind of avoided me at certain times during the evening. I bet they did. That guy's no good. He's crazy. And then, you know, then the Elon Musk stuff would come up. Like, what are you talking about?

Starting point is 00:08:21 What has he done here? Well, you know, he's part of Trump. He's a Trump supporter. And meanwhile, here in the Netherlands, they have Geert Wilders. This was the guy, right? He was, oh yes, he's our Dutch Trump. And nothing's happening. A law went into effect, which, what is the name of it, where they have to spread out the asylum seekers throughout the country because it was only a couple of small villages, obviously, way down south or way out east who got all these asylum seekers. So they have these asylum seeker centers and now they're spread out all over the country

Starting point is 00:09:03 and people are losing their ever loving minds. They're burning down city halls in their little towns, they're throwing eggs at the city council and no one knows what to do. Farmers selling their big beautiful dairy cows at auction because, whoop, sorry, nitrogen. I got too many points on my cows. Everything that Geert Wilders was supposed to stop has not been stopped. It's a huge disappointment. Really bizarre.

Starting point is 00:09:40 It sounds very dystopian. Well, I'm sure that this is happening in every country in Europe. Here, the Dutch... Oh, look how far they went in Germany with all the hate speech stuff. In England, where they throw somebody in jail for a tweet, a mom. So, and of course, you know, oh, I once, oh, Adams, Adams, he's a believer now. Yo, he's a, he's a Jesus freak. And so one or two came up to me and said,

Starting point is 00:10:05 Well, you're lucky you didn't get locked up. Well, listen to this. One or two came up to me, people had and I said, Oh, I'm so, thank you for being so bold. I was really, it was nice to hear that. So what do you mean? Well, we have to be kind of quiet here about our Christian faith because Christians are now immediately associated with Israel and therefore you're genocidal. Yeah, that's the silence I had. Really? Yep.

Starting point is 00:10:36 Who comes up with these schemes? Satan. Who else could be doing it? Thank you, Dana Carvey. Yeah, it's real. It's messed up. Well, the fact that these people are all hook, line and sinkered and you're dealing with an elite group because that party was a bunch of elitists, let's face it. But they are the media, so this is what's being perpetrated. The media elite, which is worse. And they're all in, they're all in hook, line and sinker. Well, no, not exactly because when you tell them the main points and it's the

Starting point is 00:11:15 exact same things that are going through here. Yeah, by superficially at least. Yeah. Because yeah, you have to talk them down. Yeah. But how long does that how long do you think that works for when you leave? Oh, no the minute I was gone. They were like, oh my god. Can you believe curry? What's wrong with that guy? No, you might as well wear a swastika Yeah, you might as well wear a swastika and then the next big thing here Okay, everybody, attention everybody. Where am I? Attention, attention everybody.

Starting point is 00:11:48 Do not eat any backyard chickens or eggs. Don't eat the chickens or eggs. They are contaminated with PFAS. Remember PFAS? Yeah. That nonsense? What's it got to do with chickens? You can't eat the chickens.

Starting point is 00:12:05 You can't eat your own chickens' eggs because they're probably contaminated with PFAS. Oh PFAS. Oh yeah. I heard about that. I am so sad. I'm so sad. So sad. There's nothing more healthy than a backyard egg.

Starting point is 00:12:19 No, not what is contaminated and seething with PFAS. Whatever that is. Wow. Yeah. not what is contaminated and seething with PFAS, whatever that is. Wow. Yeah. Wow. And then a guy I knew. I think you should take another trip or on the way. Too bad you can't make a side trip to England to see what a mess that's turned into. They won't let me in. I'm sure I'm on a list. Are you kidding me? Oh, there's that guy. He hurts people's feelings.

Starting point is 00:12:45 Arrested him. Roused him. I'm sure I'm on a list. Are you kidding me? Oh, there's that guy. He hurts people's feelings. Arrested him, roused him. So speaking of, there was a very nice Turkish lady married to a guy, how was that? He's like a bank guy or something, speaking of elite. And this is his new wife. And so she doesn't speak Dutch, a little bit of Dutch. And as they're leaving, you know, and they're waiting for the car and I'm talking to her. and I said, so what's going on with Erdogan? She says, oh, it's crazy.

Starting point is 00:13:10 Did you know, John, that there are three mayors who have been incarcerated? Not one, three. No, I only know about the one. That's the only thing we've been told. Yeah, 180 teenage students who were demonstrating, incarcerated, not arrested. Yeah, we did know that. They're in jail still. And she said, anybody who goes against Erdogan, boom, you're arrested, you're done.

Starting point is 00:13:37 That's not really being played up the way evil dictator Putin is, which by the way, they completely buy into. Oh no, oh yeah, we got to, we got to, got to defenses going here because you know, when you guys pull out. Any minute now. And then there's the, the big NATO splash, the splash, you remember the NATO splash, which Mark Ritter was telling us about, the NATO splash. Donald, come to the NATO Hague, you remember the NATO splash which Mark Rizzo was telling us about the NATO splash Donald's Come to the NATO Hague. We make a big splash Well, this is making people happy

Starting point is 00:14:12 So they're going to shut down two major highways How do you keep did you write take notes? Of course I did. Hey, I got a deductive Material here. You've already overflowed the memory banks. But it's important. So this is the big NATO summit meeting in The Hague. So they're going to be shutting down all your two big highways for I think two months. So you won't even be able to get to Scheveningen, which is one of the main piers on the coast. So no beach for you.

Starting point is 00:14:48 You can't go to Miniature Town, Majurodom, your favorite. That's not gonna happen. Majurodom. Miniature Town's my favorite. They're closing that for four months. So. Why? Because of the big splash.

Starting point is 00:15:01 So retail, of course, these are the busiest months for them, summer months. Nope. Nope. All of that is screwed. They're putting Patriot and Stinger missile installations into the dunes. You know, because you never know. You never know what might happen. Someone might try to get those NATO guys.

Starting point is 00:15:21 It's going to cost about a hundred million euros. Wait, so there, what you're telling me is that because Trump's going to show up at a meeting at NATO and all the NATO guys are going to get together. Who said Trump's going? I don't even think Trump will show. Why would he? I don't think he should. No, why would he? But I would recommend against it.

Starting point is 00:15:40 This is crazy. Yeah. So the Dutch are... And then... And so their army... So what they're doing is they're, they're, they're fortifying, they're spending all this, $100 million to fortify the area

Starting point is 00:15:55 in and around the meeting spot, to prevent Putin from attacking. Yes. Yes, of course. And destroying NATO on the spot because there's this opportunity. That's it, that's it. You're right. And in the process, they're going to shut down all the businesses, all the highways,

Starting point is 00:16:10 all the fun, all that miniature land and everything in between. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Really? Yeah. But wait. What idiots. But wait, there's more. What were the two things that, well, there were two things that were promised

Starting point is 00:16:26 definitely would happen with the formation of the European Union, which was you won't need a passport to get between all the countries in the European Union, we'll have the same money, don't worry, it's all going to be great, you'll have the same money, and we'll never ever have a European army, oops, we know that's broken. What was the other thing we'd never ever have in the European Union? Uh, I don't know. A federal tax from Brussels. Oh, the federal tax. Oh, well, wouldn't you know it.

Starting point is 00:16:58 Twenty twenty seven. Everybody will now, in addition to your local country taxes, will have a EU tax and this tax will be based on, oh what do you think it could be? Whatever it is is not good. Your carbon footprint. No. Yes, based on the amount of gasoline you use in your car.

Starting point is 00:17:25 Oh, that means the people, they have the great advantage in the 10 minute city. Yeah, well, that would be next. Based upon gasoline or diesel you put in your car, or they still use liquid petroleum gas sometimes here, I don't think that much anymore. And any natural gas, if you are still one of those people who has, God forbid, natural gas, if you have a gas oven or a gas stove, well, you're going to get dinged.

Starting point is 00:17:52 And I didn't know this, but they have already published the EU carbon permits price. This kind of snuck in, or I guess they approved a certain market. So currently one ton of CO2 will cost you 67 euros, but they say by the time the tax goes in, it could be between 100 and 200 euros a ton, which would mean most people would wind up paying between three and 500 euros a year extra just for the carbon tax. And that's always the beginning. So I don't blame these people for being in a bad mood. Yeah, bad mood.

Starting point is 00:18:36 It's Musk's fault, by the way. Yeah, Musk, the guy who actually is trying to help you get away from your carbon tax. Oh no. So yeah, it was bizarre, just bizarre. Good to see everybody though. I was the one smiling. Hey everybody, I'm from Texas y'all. That was the clincher. That would definitely be the clincher. I'm from Texas, y'all. From Texas. So, yeah, so that was the big, that was my big travel report. Oh, one other thing. Yes, I forgot.

Starting point is 00:19:14 As a part of the climate change, I had lunch with Tiffany, my sister, today. And she's saying, you know, yeah, because she and her husband, they like to travel. So, you know, it's easy. She works at Schiphol, so she has all kinds of discounts and she can move around easily. And so they'll go to Spain or Italy for a couple of days, you know, whatever. Because she runs a couple of these stores here. So she has a pretty intense job. So she gets to take time off. And she says, but you know, we don't have any, any, what was the term?

Starting point is 00:19:45 Fleeche schaumte. Fleeche schaumte. Flying shame is a term here. Do you have flying shame? Flying shame. Yes. Does that got something to do with your carbon footprint? You bet. The more you fly, the dirtier you are. You have, you should be shamed of flying. They call it flying shame. dirtier you are, you should be shamed of flying. They call it flying shame. Wow. Yeah. Good show title. But it's okay for DiCaprio and the others with their private jets to be flying

Starting point is 00:20:16 constantly all over the place for these climate summits. Don't try and bring any logic into the equation. That's really not going to help at all. Apparently not. In other news, they didn't blow up? No, I do have the Katy Perry commentary though, which is kind of a blow up. Well, I have a couple of things I want to mention, but let's, uh, let's do your commentary. Katie Perry.

Starting point is 00:20:49 This is what happens after you take a 12 minute flight into space. I don't know. They don't even get into space really. They just kind of shoot up into the air. What to, I don't know what, what was the altitude they finally achieved? 80,000 feet maybe. I don't know. Okay. I hope they can see the unity that we modeled and replicate that and understand that we weren't just taking up space, we were making space for the future. And for me, like Gail said, this wasn't a ride, it wasn't a destination, it was a journey

Starting point is 00:21:26 and it was a supernatural one. My journey has always been about love and belonging and I think that we have all felt that sometimes we weren't worthy or we didn't belong in certain ways, no matter all the accolades, no matter all the studying, no matter anything. And I think today we all said it, like, we belong here. This is where we belong and we feel very sure of that. So I think that you'll never know the amount of love that you have inside of you to give and to receive until the day you launch. Because you're leaving all the love behind and you're surrendering and you're hoping that you get another chance to love them again. And so when you come back

Starting point is 00:22:18 down, you're like, oh, I get another chance and I'm going to do it. Oh my God. Now I'm crying. Okay. That's your brain on drugs, children. You know, I'm another chance that I'm gonna do it. Oh my god, now I'm crying. Okay. That's your brain on drugs, children. Uh, you know, I'm gonna go... That is exactly right. I'm gonna go... That's your brain on drugs. I gotta go a little deeper on this one, because this was, of course, all about women.

Starting point is 00:22:38 Women being teams, women doing their thing, women being women, women being feminine, women being just the best in the world, making space, taking space. Here's an NBC report. Blasting off for 11 unforgettable minutes. The first all-female space crew in more than 60 years. One, two, three, take a seat! Woo! Including pop star Katy Perry and journalist Gail King, along with Lauren Sanchez, the fiance of Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos. Look at the moon. Look!

Starting point is 00:23:16 The historic six marveling at the moon and the earth. And you look at it and you're like, we're all in this together. While floating for four minutes, Katy Perry, weightless with a daisy in hand. Her daughter's namesake, New Shepard's booster rocket landing first. It's a perfect landing. This reusable booster that took them up

Starting point is 00:23:36 now safely back on the ground, the massive rocket ready for its next mission amid the space tourism boom. Then in front of a star-spedded crowd, the astronauts all smiles back on Earth. It's about making space for future women and taking up space and belonging. Amanda Nguyen, emotional, after becoming the first Vietnamese woman in space. She's a survivor of sexual assault carrying aboard a painful reminder. For anyone who's ever had to struggle through life circumstances that weren't their choice,

Starting point is 00:24:18 I want you to know that you will make it through. And those magical moments on board, the start of a shared space sisterhood, celebrated amongst the stars. Alright, so that was the main theme. Oh man, this is the worst. Well, this is where it got bizarre because they had the Blue Origin debrief. Now mind you, they're just selling tickets to go

Starting point is 00:24:41 on this 11 minute roller coaster ride because they said, oh, could everybody in the audience who is an astronaut stand up? And that's like 100 people that, you know, they only publicize this one, but it goes up all the time. Rich people going up. It's like a, it's like a, an expensive amusement park ride. So this is all about women.

Starting point is 00:24:59 It's about the women. Everything is woman. We are woman, women, women, women of Blue Origin, Team Blue, women, women here, female host, woman. I don't know if that would ever get old if I were you guys to hear that I am an astronaut and an unbelievable thing you guys can now say that you are. We are going to hear from all of you guys in a second but there are over 10,000 employees here at Blue Origin. There are so many people that have put their heart and soul

Starting point is 00:25:28 and their brains into this operation to make it possible to do what you guys did today. How many times are you gonna say you guys to this group of women? You guys, you guys, what happened to that not being a thing? Yeah, you used to be condemned for saying that. You guys, you guys, it should be at least gals. Oh, that's worse.

Starting point is 00:25:53 And then, so first up is Sanchez. And I don't know if she must have not had a chat with Jeff about space. I mean, space is, you know, it's about getting out there and exploring new worlds and new civilizations and going to places and learning about where we possibly could move to. Am I right? Isn't that-

Starting point is 00:26:18 To grab a few rocks. Isn't that kind of the idea of privatized space flight? It's to go out and we're excited about maybe Mars or maybe returning to the moon. Well, Sanchez didn't get the memo. Thank you so much, Audrey. There's so many things that I just thought about as I heard you speaking and I want to get into it with all of you guys.

Starting point is 00:26:42 Lauren, congratulations. Guys. I want to start with you. In researching this entire process, I heard a lot about the overview effect and it was something that I didn't know anything about. The overview effect. Okay. So remember, it's supposed to be about going to new places, commercial space travel, the future, the world, the universe is our oyster. What I have learned that you now will be able to share, to experience is because when people that go up to space and see Earth from space, they come back and their

Starting point is 00:27:16 perception of Earth is different. We have one planet because out there it's dark. It is, you know, William Shatner even said this when he went to space. And now I understand what he was talking about. It's like death. And I don't know. Baby, baby, we're supposed to want, people want to go out. Don't tell them it's death out there. No, it just made me want to.

Starting point is 00:27:41 Yeah. Just come back with an open heart. and it really opened me wide open and hopefully I can bring that to other people and also just protect this planet we're on. I mean, this is the only one we've got. So I'm completely and utterly humbled by this experience. Wow. And beyond grateful. Worst endorsement ever.

Starting point is 00:28:10 It's death out there. That's a great... I'm going to give you a borderline clip of the day for that. I'll take a borderline. Borderline. Clip of the day. Because this is a negative sales pitch. It's like, we're all doomed.

Starting point is 00:28:27 This is the only planet. You don't really understand how doomed we are until you take this horrible trip. It's death. It's death, I tell you. Now, let's just talk about symbolism. So this rocket is called the New Shepherd. Who was the old shepherd? The Good Shepherd. Jesus. Okay, so this is the new shepherd. Fine. Katy Perry's uniform, a Baphomet insignia on her uniform. There was? Yes. She's got,

Starting point is 00:28:57 she holds up a monarch butterfly inside the castle. She does? Yes. And by the way, the Rockets of Dildo, we've all seen that. Well, we know the Rockets of Dildo. That's been long since established. And so I was, I didn't catch it live. In fact, they had the Dildo Rocket on the back of a lot of these jerseys that they were wearing. Well, why not? So, it was kind of odd because I recall when Bezos went up the first time, they had in-capsule live footage. And they didn't have that this time. You only had audio. And so by the time they got back down, then an hour or so later, they had some in, in, you know, the encapsule video and then floating around Katy Perry

Starting point is 00:29:52 with her monarch butterfly. But they changed the audio of, I think, I'm pretty sure it's Katy Perry of what she was screeching about when she was up in space. So this may be hard for you to hear. I don't know if the trolls will be able to hear it, but... And I'm not even going to tell you what she says, because I don't want to put it into your mind, but she'll say it twice. Oh, the moon!

Starting point is 00:30:17 You guys! I will have to tell you... Look at the moon! Look! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my goddess! Now, what did you hear! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my goddess!

Starting point is 00:30:25 Now, what did you hear? Oh my goddess? Yes. Of course! Of course! To the evil goddess! Oh, that's interesting. And that has been cut out of the video they've published.

Starting point is 00:30:41 You only hear an oh my goodness somewhere. Play it again. Okay. Oh, the moon! You guys! I I have to tell you, look at the moon! Look! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my goddess! Now if you play it backwards she says, Hail Satan. But I'm telling you, I hear... Anything you play backwards says that. So... uh, but this, this is creepy. You know, she used to be a gospel singer. She completely, and there's some, some interview of her out there saying, yeah, I was a gospel singer and I, I love the church and.

Starting point is 00:31:16 You know, I had a friend, I don't have, I have a friend of mine. He used to work in her managerial crew or something. For Katy Perry. Katy Perry. And he, he told me that she was, she had told him that she would sell herself to any, she was just, anything to be famous, she would give up anything. Well. And she made a big fuss about this.

Starting point is 00:31:41 Well, she's obviously, this is what happened. Yes. I don't think it's even a question which is why I was joking about her you know being a Satanist. No, it's not a joke. It's not a joke and then add in the MK ultra monarch butterfly and all of this symbolism and seriously if you look at a uniform Baphomet it's getting a little thick. It's too. We'll catch an on that guy lady back off exactly back off a little bit I met would have her back off The devil always overplays his hand and it's true. Oh, yeah. Yeah

Starting point is 00:32:21 Well, we can go lots of places from here. I think we've handled that. Um, did you see Tucker by any chance? I did not see Tucker, but I know he talked to a couple of interesting people lately. Do you have some clips that we should be listening to? Yeah, I do. He talked to Kurt Weldon, who was, uh, it was actually, uh, I think it was a pretty powerful Republican representative around 9-11. Oh, he's the one who discussed 9-11?

Starting point is 00:32:51 Yes. And the whole episode is completely worth listening to. So I just pulled a couple of clips. It's just a flavor, just a taste of what it is. But it's very interesting that he, at this point, when everyone's so focused on JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein, he's saying, no, no, we've got to, got to open up the true files on 9-11. And he just went all off on it. Do I think 9-11 is going to be the biggest scandal in our lifetime and beyond? Yes, I think it's going to be the biggest scandal in the history of America

Starting point is 00:33:31 because it occurred on US soil and because it is so recent that we have relevant information still available. That's right. We have recorded information, we have personal information. Once people realize they can talk and not be afraid of being killed or not being afraid of being ostracized. And you know what gets me is reporters who call people conspiracy theorists. Well, that's all the agency does. They're the ones that create the conspiracies. I'm aware. I mean, cut me a break. I'm aware. They have whole courses for their agents on how to make people look like they're conspiracy theorists. And the propaganda operations designed to discredit. Exactly. Right. And all we want is the truth. Of course. So Trump,

Starting point is 00:34:13 appoint people of impeccable integrity. Let them study the facts. I will testify under oath everything I know about intelligence. Let these 3000 architects who are risking their careers, making nothing, let them testify under oath. So they really just, he started a big ruckus after this happened, after the 9-11 report came out, even before that. And so they, you know, they really took this guy down. He's got a whole story about that. And he goes into who made money off of this. And of course, you know, there was the the Iraq invasion, etc. But in this in these clips, he focuses on, you know, what can we prove? And of course, we all heard the explosions.

Starting point is 00:34:52 It's kind of interesting that, you know, I think Tucker is even surprised. Has he not seen any of the Alex Jones four hour long movies? I mean, come on, everyone my age has seen these. There has been this subtle pressure to the firefighters and to the officers not to talk for obvious reasons. You know what this involves politically. Look what happened to the chief of LA. The female chief of LA comes out and says that the resources were taken away from her for the field forest fires. And what does the

Starting point is 00:35:21 mayor do? She fires her. That was just a few weeks ago. The firefighters are always a scapegoat. That's why Tucker, I'm done with this. If it's the last thing I do, firefighters are not going to be taken for granted anymore. We're going to rise up. We're going to shake the country to its roots. Firefighters are not second class citizens. Well, they certainly shouldn't be. But if they talk, they'll get sidelined. They'll be called crazies. Even though they heard explosions, they can't be allowed to say that. They heard explosions?

Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, absolutely. It's on tape. What? Wow. People coming out of the buildings. Hey, hold on a second. I know. I mean, the number of people that said they heard explosions right after the event.

Starting point is 00:36:02 Is numerous. Because, forget Alex Jones. It was on NBC. They were all on television saying they heard explosions. Yeah. Explosions. We have film footage of people. And Tucker didn't know.

Starting point is 00:36:13 This is bull crap. What, that Tucker didn't know? No. There's something fishy about Tucker being aghast at this. Well, maybe that's- Everybody heard these guys talking about explosions explosions whether they believed it or not. You know Tucker is the first to say and I think even says in the last clip that he's embarrassed that he was all in. He told people who said building seven you know was imploded.

Starting point is 00:36:38 He called them nut jobs. He does say that. Having seen these people last night reminded me when you are in that milieu you're he was at CNN at the time what do you think he was he's supposed to believe you know he heard it from from insiders from sources say from his colleagues from the top brass why would he question it I'm gonna give him a half pass that heard explosions we have film footage of people that talked to Fox News that was taken off the air and then now that was brought back by X. That's all available. That's why you need a commission to go back and look at all the lines.

Starting point is 00:37:16 Wait, so there are... and pardon my ignorance, but there are people on tape saying I heard explosions. Yes, absolutely, 100%. There's gambling going on there. I heard explosions yes absolutely 100% there's gambling going on there hold on a second you I've got to back you off on this idea that okay he was working for CNN at the time but since then where has he been then he's the daddy's shock this this interview was like within the last week yeah so until within the last week, he still hasn't heard about somebody talking about the explosions?

Starting point is 00:37:49 You know, remember this is the guy who the NSA spied on him when he was trying to go to Russia. I think he was a pre-op. I'm just still going to give him a quarter pass now that he was, you know, being spied on by NSA, that he was going to Russia. They released his text messages. So he may just not, you know, he was looking at JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein. Maybe it just wasn't top of mind. Here's the last clip. They are the only high rise buildings in the world that have ever come down from an airplane hitting them.

Starting point is 00:38:18 And those buildings, I read the report from the architect who designed them. They were designed to withstand an airplane hitting the building and standing tall. And especially Building 7, which had no plane hit it. Right. No plane hit it, and the building just, you can see it when you watch it on TV, it just implodes straight down.

Starting point is 00:38:36 And what really got me again was the, Oriole Palmer, that, the Italian chief arising on the... Well, tell us who he was. What is... Okay, Oriole Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York. And FDNY. FDNY, who immediately, in very good shape, had a family, a couple of... What was that, by the way? FDNY? What is that?

Starting point is 00:38:58 That was an odd little thing to throw in there. It's like a code. Yeah, yeah, something going on there. Oriol Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York FDNY FDNY who immediately a very good shape had a family a couple of kids went into building soon as they got on the scene took the elevator up to the 40th floor got off the elevator and you can hear him on the comms system say I'm here 40th floor we're gonna start walking up the stairwells. Every

Starting point is 00:39:25 five floors he radios back to communicate, I'm on the 50th floor, everything's okay, we're on floor 60, everything's okay. He's going up every so many floors he gives a report. He reaches the 78th floor, the floor of impact. He comes out of the stair tower and as clear as you listening to me here, and I know I get passionate and I apologize to your listeners for that he says we're on floor 78 the floor of impact we've got two fires and we can handle them one minute later the whole building collapses that's not normal that is not acceptable that is not what happened and

Starting point is 00:40:03 this is on tape it It's on tape. It's on tape. Yeah. On tape. The whole interview was good. I mean, he doesn't really... Did they bring up the point about my favorite one, which is on Building 7, where they have the guy on mic on one of the networks saying, pull it. The BBC.

Starting point is 00:40:18 It was the BBC. It was the BBC. Pull it. Yeah. And they dropped the building. It was the BBC pull it. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. First the BBC is saying Building seven has collapsed but it was 20 minutes before it collapsed You see the BBC person with building seven in the background then they have now I don't know where that tape came from that one, but I've heard it to pull it pull it and

Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, what they're gonna pull it, pull it. Um, yeah, were they're going to pull it? Yeah, I'm a little fuzzy on it too. It was after all 24 years ago, but yeah, that would, that's what we all should be moaning about, forget the Epstein files. No, sorry. No, no, because did you hear that there's a book coming out about Bill Gates? Yeah, if I can imagine. Yeah, the book, let me see, what is it?

Starting point is 00:41:12 I think the Economist reported on this today. And that they had to hide the young interns from Bill Gates. Well, that's not news to the No Agenda Show listeners. But did you, in Redmond, are they talking about his normal, this is Bill's normal activities? They used to be, I'll give you a story. Let me read the headline first so we can set this up. There's a new book coming out called, Billionaire Nerd Savior King, Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape our world. And so the big headline is Bill Gates,

Starting point is 00:41:48 infidelity in quotes, saw Microsoft management keep young interns away from the tech mogul. The guy who was just doing business, just trying to get a deal done with the Jeffrey Epstein, nothing more, just some business. So here comes John's story, everybody. Well, so before Bill was married to Melinda, who's now having issues with her psychology, I don't know what, I sent you a link. Oh, I didn't get that.

Starting point is 00:42:17 He used to go out, he used to take and bed as many of the cuties as he could at the company. And of course the word was he like small, petite blondes was his real goal. And because it would cause a stir in the executive suites, they would give these, cause the girls would be mad cause they never see Bill again. And it was, he was not a, you know, not a good, not a, you know,

Starting point is 00:42:47 not a good follow-up guy is what you're saying. And so they start to make a fuss and they shipped the girls to Australia, Microsoft Australia, and with a lucrative job. And they say, would you like, and to the point, now this is of all Microsoft folklore, and I'm pretty sure it's true because I heard it from more than one person, that some of the new girls would come in and this word got around. And so they start to wear t-shirts and said, Hey Bill, pick me. Because they wanted to go to Australia.

Starting point is 00:43:23 Because they wanted to go to Australia. Now I get, I'd like to have one of these, there's gotta be some woman out there who actually was shipped to Australia. Well, what we want is one of those t-shirts. That's another collectible I don't have. That's the collectible. Tell me we aren't the best podcast in the universe. Where else will you get a boots on the ground story like that? That one,

Starting point is 00:43:47 by the way, I've heard Bill Gates stories from you, but I do not remember the Hey Bill, pick me t-shirts. Yeah. Hey Bill, pick me. I think when it's with Australia. The older you get, the more good stories come out. I'm kind of digging this. I got a million of them. You get old, you know, there's stories. Oh, I had a, I woke up today. Uh, well you have a four. First of all, you woke up. It's a good day. Believe me, it's a huge plus. It's a good day.

Starting point is 00:44:20 I got a tune in my head. You know, you get a tune worm. Yeah. Yeah. A little earworm, a ditty. You got a little, uh, where this came from is beyond me, but it went, I can still, until about, I took about a two or three hours to get rid of it. It was hearing, uh, Frankie Valley singing two faces have I, what song? The four seasons song. Two faces have I, one to laugh and one to cry. Oh. And I haven't heard that song for 30 years and I'm not even hearing it. I'm thinking what, and once you get the hang of listening, of hearing that song in

Starting point is 00:44:56 your head, you get to all the lyrics and you, you know, pretty soon I had the whole song down. Wow Wow in falsetto But what's interesting is that I know a lot of Frankie Valley songs. I can't remember no Lou Christie sure it's not Lou Christie Two faces have I want to laugh and want to cry. Oh Well, let's do it quick. Well, here's here's Well, let's do it quick. Well, here's a... I don't want the world to know

Starting point is 00:45:29 That sounds like Frankie Valli, but that's actually Lou Christie. I don't want my heart to show Two faces have eyes Well... We need a remake. That's the song. That's the song. And I, because of the voice, I have to say.

Starting point is 00:45:51 I'll give you a pass. Yeah. You would think it's the Frankie Valli for sure. Yeah, that's what I was hearing. I was hearing the song. I didn't hear, I didn't have buy Frankie Valli, but that's what I didn't realize that Luke Christie saying that because that's a Frankie Valli song But that's what I didn't realize that Lou Christie saying that because that's a that's a Frankie Valli song if ever there was. Now did you take a gummy last night before you

Starting point is 00:46:10 went to bed? No I did not. I haven't had a gummy for years. Oh how we miss those days. John and his gummies. That's a great song by the way. Wow I like the Alvin the Chipmunks in the background. That's great. That was the era of the falsetto. Yes Later brought back by the Bee Gees in my day Yeah, but that that was the end of it. Oh, yeah, it had to end had been It's a hard thing to do as hard to see. Yes with that voice. Oh, wow Well, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. This is a great show. I think we've we've nailed it. We nailed it What more do you need to talk about? We're talking about drugs.

Starting point is 00:47:11 I have a couple of ketamine clips that I thought were fascinating. Okay. I didn't know ketamine was still in the news, but maybe this is related to Elon. Is that what, uh, Well, Elon comes to mind obviously in others. Yes. Kevin Rose. We know personally. Yeah. Kevin Rose. He's not bashful about it. We can say it. What, uh, well, the only one comes to mind obviously and others. We know personally. Yeah. Kevin Rose. He's not bashful about it. We can say it.

Starting point is 00:47:29 He does. I think it's always, it's always disturbing to me when somebody is bragging about a drug. Yeah. Um, but this is an interesting, they're doing, they did a bunch of studies on,

Starting point is 00:47:44 on giving unknowingly giving like, well, doing, they did a bunch of studies on, on giving, unknowingly giving, like, well, I guess they signed off on something, but people had a traumatic operation that was of some sort, they would give them ketamine besides the anesthetic and they would. It's a pharmaceutical. I mean, it's, it's, yeah, it's just what it's used for. Yes, what it's for. And so they'd come out of it and then they'd get, they had these psychologists that would ask them about

Starting point is 00:48:07 what they're, how they feel now and how they, then they told them about the ketamine, you got some ketamine, how do you feel better? And they went on and on about it. And I think it revealed a couple of interesting facts. And here we go. So in the group that did get ketamine, 60% of those patients felt better the day after surgery.

Starting point is 00:48:24 And most of those people had stayed better when the researchers checked on them two weeks later. Wow. So for context, Gina, this is much faster than something like Prozac or Zoloft, which could take at least a month to see results and has to be taken every single day. Right. So Boris says they figured- Hold on. What is it?

Starting point is 00:48:40 What is it? Mm hmm. Right. Oh, wow. Is this new at NPR? This is the NPR thing where you have to these want to be podcasters that are on the air and they're chatting it up.

Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, it sounds like notebook L.M. Oh, wow. Yeah. Deep dive. Oh, yeah. And has to be taken every single day. Right. So Boris says they figured, OK, ketamine works even under anesthesia. So even if the patient doesn't know that they actually got it.

Starting point is 00:49:03 So so it wasn't just Cindy who felt better. Boris told me about a different patient, not Cindy, he also talked to. This was like her, you know, like fifth like cancer surgery. Like this has been a recurrent cancer. He saw this patient a couple days after her surgery. She was almost like dancing. This is, you know, someone who had like a whole lot of stuff in their belly, still had drains, bandages. It was infectious. I thought to myself at the time, if she didn't get ketamine, I'm quitting. I don't know, or even, in retrospect, it was more like I want to know what we did. This guy is on ketamine, I can tell. He's like, that's a good point. Probably.

Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah. Oh, like, or even, I mean, in retrospect, it was more like, I want to know what, like what we did so we can do it again. And? She was in the placebo group. That's good. So statistically, there was no difference between people who got ketamine and people who got placebo. Boris told me the people who got placebo...

Starting point is 00:50:09 They got so much better, they were indistinguishable from the patients who got ketamine. And even Cindy, who did get ketamine and did feel like it helped her depression symptoms, told me she thought about whether it was really the drug that helped her or other parts of the study. Wow. Like, what was it that really made her feel better? Wow. Well, they finally do a placebo study and what are they doing on ketamine?

Starting point is 00:50:32 I have a couple other drugs I'd like you to try that on. Let's listen to the second part of this. So you're saying that even though she got ketamine, her feeling better could also have been like related to these other parts of the experience, like working closely with Boris and like like people are actually listening to her. Exactly. And she told me that she wondered how far would it take other people who were struggling

Starting point is 00:50:53 with something like depression if they just had the same kind of support that she got from Boris and her surgery team. Yeah. Who doesn't respond to love and kindness, right? Boris told me that a lot of patients seem to think that if they felt better, they probably got ketamine, even if they didn't, which to him points to this expectation or hope that patients might have about being in a study where they might get some kind of drug at all.

Starting point is 00:51:19 You know, it was a lot of the same reactions like, well, I, you know, I can't explain it either. But this it's important. It's you know, I got't explain it either. But this, it's important. It's, you know, I got better. In some cases, they stayed better. But that could have just been the placebo effect. Yeah. I mean, that's what Boris is saying. And what he really emphasized to me is that placebo can sort of be seen as this fake thing or a sign of failure in a study, but there's science supporting its effectiveness. It can actually change our brain chemistry, but people often see it as this imaginary

Starting point is 00:51:47 treatment. The imaginary is like something that doesn't exist. This is a real thing and placebo has real biology behind it. And it is one of the most valuable treatments we have in medicine, full stop. Wow. It's like that expectation. Well, there you go. That's an interesting twist to the story. That's what I thought.

Starting point is 00:52:07 Huh. So I guess, well, you know, NPR is not, I don't think they're in on the springtime big pharma buy. There. That may be true. Everybody else was. The point, yes, and the, but the point of that discussion, and it went on, it was just a piece of a longer piece. And it was that it may be the placebo plus the attention is all it really took to get people back on track.

Starting point is 00:52:40 And ketamine doesn't do jack, except for the dissociative stuff that it does do to people get, that does have a psychedelic effect. So maybe, maybe a lot of these like Zoloft and Xanax and by the way, I've tried a Xanax and like nothing for me. And I used to be a professional drug user. I'm like, man, this is nothing. It takes, it takes, like they say, it takes a long time before it catches up to you. No, that you're supposed to take a Xanax and oh man, I feel so loose.

Starting point is 00:53:07 Maybe a lot of these drugs are just so you can say, oh, I've got to take my meds. Oh, I just took my meds. That could be. It's very possible. This study sounds like it, makes it sound like that. It's like the placebo effect and it might as well give you nothing. So we had the big Pharma buy, the springtime buy,

Starting point is 00:53:26 and the buy was not specifically for any medication, but it was to basically say autism is not caused by vaccines. Everybody had the story. We begin here tonight with a mystery. The mystery of autism, the developmental condition that can affect the ability to communicate and interact socially. We're beginning with it because the CDC is reporting a sharp rise in the number of children

Starting point is 00:53:50 who have it, more than 3% of 8-year-olds. And because today the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., called the rate of autism alarming and ordered up studies to determine the cause by September, something scientists have been working on for decades. There are clues, but no conclusions. We're joined now by CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Celine Gounder. Hey Celine.

Starting point is 00:54:15 So today, Secretary Kennedy announced that we were going to be, as a country, investing more money through the NIH to research the causes of autism. He has previously stated that by September we would have some definitive answers. It is extremely unlikely we're going to be getting there. And we'll talk about that more after this story. But I think it was very interesting that he did not mention vaccines at the press conference today. Which was, of course, what everybody kept saying last week.

Starting point is 00:54:44 He says it's because of vaccines is because I don't think he's actually said that. He's spoken of mercury and that would come into adjuvants which I don't think is being used much anymore but they all were so convinced. Oh he says it's because of vaccines and then he didn't say it. What-w-w-w-w-w-w-what? The ASD prevalence rate in eight-year-olds is now one in 31. Shocking. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. pointed to new evidence that the U.S. is seeing, in his words, a growing epidemic of autism. The epidemic is real.

Starting point is 00:55:20 In his words. Notice that? It's not from the CDC. Oh, no, it's in his words. A that? It's not from the CDC. Oh no, it's in his words. It's a growing epidemic of autism. The epidemic is real. CDC data shows one out of 31 children has been identified with autism. The previous report two years earlier found a rate of one in 36. If the epidemic is an artifact. Oh, stop, stop. I got this clip too.

Starting point is 00:55:46 This is what's interesting is they, they, they drop it from one to 36 to 131 and they refuse to mention the one in 100,000 number. Oh, from a, from 1990, or 1970 or whatever it was. Yeah. It was like maybe 1990, actually maybe that recent but the number starts off at one in 100,000 and then it went to one in 500 or something. I think they actually have those but not from the one in 100,000.

Starting point is 00:56:16 All these reports leave that out. Yeah. Well, hello. They push they push the following They push where was one in 36, now it's 1 in 31. So it says minor, eh, it went from here to there. Yeah. And they move out the big giant numbers. That's the trick. That's the trick. Yep.

Starting point is 00:56:35 Found a rate of 1 in 36. If the epidemic is an artifact, a better diagnostic criteria or better recognition, then why are we not seeing it in older people? Why is this only happening in young people? The American Academy of Pediatrics has disputed Kennedy's characterization, attributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations.

Starting point is 00:56:59 And I think there is more awareness. Hold on, stop. Stop. So that was a contradiction of what they just reported. Kennedy's made the point, which they don't emphasize, which is that if it's true that it's just the difference in diagnosis, then how come we don't see it in the misdiagnosed adults that are living and floating around today to the extent that we're seeing it in kids?

Starting point is 00:57:24 Because they're all high on a placebo effect. So they're all left out of it. And so then they, she immediately, this woman doing this report, she immediately drops, is this the doctor? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Celine Gounder. Yeah. She, she drops that little tidbit and skips it. Yep. And then goes on with it it with taking it further in the wrong direction. She is a misdirection expert. Attributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations.

Starting point is 00:57:54 And I think there is more awareness but clearly there's something else. Teresa Hamlin has worked with teens and adults with autism for more than 40 years at the clinical and research organization the Center Center for Discovery, where she's the CEO. These are new cases and there's more and more of them. And how do you know it's not just better detection? These are not kids that would have been diagnosed with speech disorders or emotional disorders. These are true kids with autism spectrum disorders and you wouldn't have missed them. Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism. That theory has been debunked. Notice how they always say debunked instead of saying scientifically proven,

Starting point is 00:58:36 uh, you know, even saying there is no evidence. They always, with this particular one, they always say debunked. What is, what is the actual translation? What is the meaning of debunked? This is not the only issue that they use the word debunked to an extreme for. There was another one that just came up recently. They said it was debunked. Well, so it means to debunk means to expose the falseness or sham of something. So it's more than just not true.

Starting point is 00:59:06 It's a sham. Yeah, like a hoax. Yes, yes. Which is, it's questionable that they use that term every single time. I agree. Now that you mention it. I didn't think about it, but now that you mention it, I think you're right. You're right.

Starting point is 00:59:21 Whoa, everybody write it down. Write it down. Oh, that is what we call the gazebo effect. Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism. That theory has been debunked. The secretary announced plans. I like that. Do a little Nat Pop.

Starting point is 00:59:41 That has been debunked. That was interesting. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Yes, good. This is good. I didn't even hear. If you wouldn't have picked that up on the television, it would have been subconscious.

Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, I didn't even hear it the first time I listened to this. Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism. That theory has been debunked. The secretary announced it. Isn't that great? That's unbelievable. This woman is the worst. In autism, that theory has been debunked.

Starting point is 01:00:14 The secretary announced plans for new studies to identify environmental causes for the rise in autism rates, such as mold, ultrasounds, obesity and diabetes. In his comments today, he did not mention vaccines as a possible cause. Oh no, we have nothing to moan about. Let's keep going. Dr. Gander, can you get an answer by the fall to these kinds of complex questions? Ah, no, of course not. This is a very complicated question. What causes autism? It's multifactorial, there's genetics, there's environmental causes. Wait, wait. Mult multifactorial there's genetics there's environmental cause wait wait they don't know what causes it I think that's the

Starting point is 01:00:50 premise of this whole presentation yes but now all of a sudden it's multifactorial yes multifactorial if you don't know what causes it how can you make that claim well she's dr. Charlene grounder what is it multifactorial why are you questioning it are you questioning it? Are you on the television? No! There's genetics, there's environmental causes, there's other causes, probably too. And to tease that out, the number of people

Starting point is 01:01:14 you need to study over time, I mean, if you take, for instance, the example of smoking and lung cancer, that's actually a pretty straight correlation, and that took years, decades, to prove that. So, to sort this out for autism, not by September. Excellent point because the big pharma, big tobacco was buying everybody off. That's why, great comparison.

Starting point is 01:01:35 Exactly. Excellent comparison. Exactly, that's the perfect comparison. Actually, inadvertently she made a perfect comparison. They've been bought off. These people, they overplay their hand. When it comes to potential causes that'll actually be studied, does that include vaccines in any way, shape or form? Well, it's interesting. He did not mention vaccines again during today's press conference.

Starting point is 01:01:58 But he also said that he does not want researchers to feel constrained in terms of what questions they can be asking. The specific things he mentioned included ultrasounds, obesity, older age of parents, exposure to air pollution and plastics. So there are a lot of different things that could potentially be studied through this research. That was a CBS and I have a much shorter, just one clip from ABC and one from NBC.

Starting point is 01:02:24 Let's just, because remember this was the spring time by. Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what- Authorities, just listen to what they're saying. Authorities, oh, oh, who am I to question authority? Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what's behind new numbers tonight, showing that one out of every 31 children in America was diagnosed

Starting point is 01:02:45 with some measure of autism in 2022, the latest figures available. You are right. By the way, John, you are right. This was the buy. The buy was we're going to make it look like a little increase from one in 36 to one in 31. That's our report. That's the news.

Starting point is 01:03:03 That's the story. So yes, there has been increased, but it's only one in 31. That's our report. That's the news. That's the story. So yes, there has been increased, but it's only, you know, one in five. You nailed it. You nailed it. That's what that's what the springtime by was about. Those numbers were one in every 36 children just two years earlier and one out of every 150 children in the year 2000. And the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls. US Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, who for years as a civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines,

Starting point is 01:03:32 is underlining the new numbers tonight. Wait, stop. What did he say he helped blame? I think that's what he said. What was the phrase he used before blame? The word before the use of the word blame, what was that? Let's listen. And the report shows that autism was What was that? Let's listen.

Starting point is 01:03:45 And the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls. U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, who for years as a civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines. Helped. Helped blame. Helped blame? Yes, helped blame. He helped blame.

Starting point is 01:04:00 What kind of structure is that? That's ABC News, baby. I helped blame. That's the house of Peter Jennings. Why do you question these things? Villain helped blame autism on the use of vaccines is underlining the new numbers tonight. His take on this has been rejected by the World Medical Community. Oh, the World Medical Community. Can I become a the World Health Organization. The World Health Community! ...by the World Medical Community. In my generation today, the rate of autism is one in ten thousand.

Starting point is 01:04:38 And this is just one disease. Other health officials this evening are explaining that the larger numbers are because parents and doctors are now much more aware of the disease and are now correctly identifying more symptoms. Not a reason, they say, to buy into unproven theories that discourage Americans from using vaccines. So now we have better diagnosis. Now notice here they say unproven theories. They're not saying disproven, scientifically proven not to be so, or even debunked. They just say unproven theories. They're not saying disproven, scientifically proven not to be so, or even

Starting point is 01:05:06 debunked. They just say unproven theories. You have not proved your theory, so go home. Americans from using vaccines. So now we have better diagnosis, broader recognition of autism spectrum. So many children with less severe learning and behavior differences are being included in these new rates. Autism is not new and it is not caused by vaccines. There you go. The buy is complete and shinned out the bill. They don't know what caused it, but it's not caused by vaccines. No, it's not. Whatever it is.

Starting point is 01:05:35 If they don't know what's causing it. How do they know what's not causing it? How do they know? Exactly. They don't know what's causing it. So they can't say it's not caused by vaccines as a flat statement You question this is a you're right. You're again. You're right. This is a drug by Of all the networks and they had to just talking points had to be included and they all gave a report I bet you if you timed out the reports, they're all advertising length about about about 60 minutes, 60 seconds. Yeah, with a pre and post-roll.

Starting point is 01:06:07 Here is the NBC version. It is a little bit longer. Maybe they got a double buy. The CDC says one in 31 eight-year-olds were identified with autism spectrum disorder in 2022 up from one in 36 two years earlier. All right, we got that one. Check that one off the list. Boys, one second. I just stopped it. And they all doing this is the same exact points they're trying to make each time. Why don't they have any numbers from 2023 or even 2024 for that matter? But that means already six months into

Starting point is 01:06:43 2025. Why does it, the numbers go back to 2022 and there's nothing from 2023? I'd like to know. Do they explain that? And of course not. No, please. Up from one in 36 two years earlier, boys were more than three times as likely as girls

Starting point is 01:06:59 to be identified with autism, minority children more than whites. Almost 40% of the kids also have an intellectual disability. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. today calling autism an epidemic. This whole generation of kids is damaged by chronic disease. Dr. Alex Calveson of New York's Siever Autism Center disagrees with Kennedy's diagnosis. Is this report an accurate representation of how prevalent autism is in the U.S.? No, I don't think it is.

Starting point is 01:07:32 I don't think we have an epidemic of autism. I think that there are a number of factors that are driving the increase in prevalence. Such as? Such as broadening diagnostic criteria, perhaps a younger age of diagnosis, and getting the diagnosis is a means of getting services, which are important for kids. Okay, you can get your drink coupons and your check at the end of the day. Thank you very much for appearing on our show. And he vehemently disagrees with Kennedy's past attempts to link autism to vaccines.

Starting point is 01:08:02 The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism. What? How do we know this from certainty? You don't know what causes it, but you know what doesn't cause it. This makes zero sense. You know, we have an epidemic of propaganda. That's what we have, ladies and gentlemen.

Starting point is 01:08:20 An epidemic of bull crap. Vaccines. The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism. This has been studied extensively across multiple continents, and it's been well established in the scientific community. No, it hasn't. Science shows genetics is a factor. I mean, Lam blogs about raising two children with autism

Starting point is 01:08:40 while being on the spectrum herself. Oh. Not just a... What example they found. Yeah, I gave it to my kid. That's what they say. Oh, you horrible mother. Autism while being on the spectrum herself.

Starting point is 01:08:53 It's not just a statistic to us. It's more like a call to action. As parents and science try to unlock the mysteries of the mind. The mysteries of the mind. The mysteries of the mind. Wow. Yeah. And of course the real problem here is that... By the way, just to interrupt, they... what we just witnessed with these clips, this is

Starting point is 01:09:18 where it's headed because they're going to pull the plug. It looks like it's going to happen within the next six months. Pull the plug on advertising by pharma companies and to keep their hooks into the big media companies, instead of doing advertising, they're going to be doing this more and more and more. Interesting. Don't you think? Now I do something. You've heard for certain that they're going to pull the plug. Yeah. It's been dropped as a feelers have been dropped in the here and there.

Starting point is 01:09:50 It's going to be prognosticated. Uh, now the big problem is that they expanded the definition of autism to ASD, autism spectrum disorder. I'm on the spectrum. Hey, I dress, I'm on the spectrum. Yes. ASD, autism, spectrum disorder. I'm on the spectrum. Hey, I dress, I'm on the spectrum. Eh. Yes, and you yourself believe it was from a shot. Yes, totally.

Starting point is 01:10:13 Happened seven years old. Hmm, what happened at seven? I think I got some more shots when I went to Europe. Yes. So that just confuses everything because you have severe autism, what you and I would recognize. You also got kids walking around on their tippy toes and twirling.

Starting point is 01:10:31 That's autism. Okay. Kids on their tippy toes twirling. That's what some kids do, the stupid stuff. All of that is on the spectrum. And some kids are bargeniases. And, oh, he's too interested in Lego blocks. He's on the spectrum.

Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah. And by the way, some interesting, a lot of these kids are interesting. Now you do have severe autism for sure. Um, and real, um, retardation of mental capacity. And I, we have family members where that happens. Shot, kid got, you know, still living at home, 30 years old. Yeah. That's horrific.

Starting point is 01:11:17 Anyway, you and I are not going to solve it, my friend. Nope, but we can sure ridicule these reports. Yeah, that's easy to do. Yeah, well, it's easy to do, but nobody does it. No. If you haven't noticed. Yeah. Well, people are too busy trying to debunk

Starting point is 01:11:41 Macron's married-to dude. That's what everyone's. Let's talk about it. Blake Lively. Let's talk about Blake Lively. Blake Lively. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 01:11:55 I have a, a clip that getting to our guy, our buddy in, in, poster, Salvador, I don't know where he is. Oh yeah, the Alps, he's in the- And by the way, our guy, our buddy in, in, um, poster, so Salvador, I don't know where he is. Oh yeah. The, the else he's in. By the way, that guy, what is his name?

Starting point is 01:12:10 Garcia. I can't remember. Elion, Elion Gonzalez. Elion Gonzalez. He, first of all, I thought he first, he was a gay hairdresser. Then he was a gay makeup guy. Now he's a father, a Maryland father. Whatever happened to the gay, to the gay part, that person disappeared.

Starting point is 01:12:29 Yeah, that was the messaging that they were throwing at us and then trying to maybe get gay sympathy or something. I'm not sure what the methodology was. They even got Rogan on that one. Rogan was like, oh, they deported a gay hairdresser. They got to pull that back. Was that a completely different story? I don't know.

Starting point is 01:12:53 Maybe it was, but whatever the case is, I thought this guy was the gay hairdresser. Well, he is now. Probably. Gay Venezuelan stylists sent to Salvadorian prison after a disgraced cop's report. This is from Milwaukee. Well, that guy, nothing ever happened. That story, that's the story, but for some reason they dropped that story. Because these stories are all bogus. Yeah, because that was Milwaukee and this is the Maryland man.

Starting point is 01:13:27 Okay, so what you got? So I got some, this is a different kind of a take on things. This is the Old Brother banishment tale. What? The Old Brother banishment? Old Brother, Old Brother, banishment. Okay. Is this something I should understand?

Starting point is 01:13:44 Is this code I should understand? Is this code? There's no set up. It just sets itself up. Their names were Lawrence and Cassandra Sothek. Ford discovered the connection with his ancestors when he started digging into his genealogy as a hobby a few years ago. The Sothek's story was interesting because they were Quakers living under a very Puritan

Starting point is 01:14:04 government so they were banished from the community. It was for were Quakers living under a very Puritan government. So, they were banished from the community. John McAllister It was from being Quakers, yeah. The court levied it as a formal punishment, maybe under blasphemy or heresy laws. I don't know the exact statute they would have cited, but that was the general purpose of it. Danielle Pletka They fled to Shelter Island in New York. John McAllister According to their memorial, according to some of the records that survived, they died of exposure and maltreatment shortly thereafter.

Starting point is 01:14:28 They were already elderly when it happened, so it was probably quite an ordeal for them to be removed from their community and sent elsewhere. Danielle Pletka, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times, The New York Times,

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Starting point is 01:14:54 And what do you think? How do you think they, this is like, well, let's think of a new angle to shoehorn our buddy and... John Lennon In El Salvador into... Dr. Chesley...that's been shipped to El Salvador. How do we do that? I've got an idea. Part two. Danielle Pletka Matt Ford is a staff writer at the New Republic, and he has been thinking about the Suddocks because banishment is suddenly back on the table. President Trump, how many illegal criminals are you planning on exporting to El Salvador?

Starting point is 01:15:27 And President Bukele, how many are you willing to take from the U.S.? As many as possible. President Trump has already sent plain loads of immigrants to a maximum security prison in El Salvador for indefinite detention. Wow. So we have a completely unrelated story about someone being banished from the community. Yeah, in the 1600s. As a Quaker.

Starting point is 01:15:52 So, immediately, you do the association that Trump is so back-ass-ward that he's doing stuff that took place in the 1600s and he's trying to bring it back. This is how far down, this is your Europeans must really would beat this up. Oh yeah. This is some MK ultra stuff. Did they flash? No, it's radio, but they might as well just flash a monarch butterfly at you. Okay.

Starting point is 01:16:16 Here comes some programming. Or indefinite detention. The legality of that move is being fought out in the courts, but at an Oval Office meeting with the Salvadoran president this week, Trump was looking ahead. I'd like to go a step further. I mean, I say, I said it to Pam. I don't know what the laws are. We always have to obey the laws.

Starting point is 01:16:34 But we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat. We're number one! When they're not looking. That are absolute monsters. I'd like to include them in the group of people to get them out of the country. In other words, exiling U.S. citizens for committing a crime. Which brings us back around to Matt Ford's 11th great-grandparents. In the grand scope of American history, these practices are not unheard of,

Starting point is 01:17:06 but they are also now pretty far disregarded. Oh, nice script reading. Pretty far disregarded. Wow. That's good stuff. It's creative. Very creative twist. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:22 That is just like an eye roller. This was a very long presentation. I only have four clips, but we'll go into part three. Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this? By the way, she's starting to sound like Scott. Listen to her. Start it over. Tell me I'm wrong. Okay, hold on, hold on.

Starting point is 01:17:41 Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution? Yeah, that one, he says. Shut up, you suck a head. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up.

Starting point is 01:17:54 Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up.

Starting point is 01:18:02 Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up you know, on one hand, the courts have never really ruled on it. That's what makes it so striking. And... R. Because nobody's tried it. S. Nobody's done it. And so, you know, I can't find a Supreme Court opinion. I can't point one to you in sight. Do you want one where the justices 50 or 100 years ago said banishment is unconstitutional, exile is unconstitutional? But when you look at the grand scope of how

Starting point is 01:18:24 the courts think about deportation, extradition, citizenship, it's pretty clear that it would be a disfavored practice. And we know that also from American history. What history book did he read? They're also talking about the Constitution. I think a lot of people don't understand the Constitution is a list of things you can't do. As the government. As the government.

Starting point is 01:18:52 It's really a... The Bill of Rights, certainly. It's like not stuff the government can't do and then everything else you can make laws you can do your own thing. You could do banishment. I don't see any issue because there's not, you can't, there's nothing in the constitution that forbids it because the constitution is about forbidding things. And so there's nothing that forbids it.

Starting point is 01:19:15 You should be able to do this. And in fact, they don't talk about it too much, but you know, people have been kicked out of the country largely like Snowden. They took his passport away while he was in Russia and he can't come back. Good point. What's the difference between that and banishment? Well, Snowden left himself. He left on his own accord and then they wouldn't let him come back in.

Starting point is 01:19:35 I guess that is banishment, but it didn't kick him out. He just, he's not allowed back in. Yeah, but yeah. Yeah, you have tomato, tomato. I got you. Okay, let's wrap it up. He's not allowed back in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Starting point is 01:19:52 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. anybody that comes in, we have bad ones too. Danielle Pletka Matt Ford, are US citizens a special category of person under US law? Matt Ford Constitutionally speaking, in many ways they are. I mean, American citizens are the only ones who can vote. They're the only ones who can serve on juries. And they have a automatic right to live

Starting point is 01:20:14 in this country. The general practice is they can't be denied reentry if they leave, which is sort of a constitutional barrier in and of itself to the idea that they would be exiled to a distant land. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Russia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're kind of trying to go at this angle. This is not going to go anywhere, but I thought it was interesting and somewhat entertaining. Yes. Oh, there's the Zephyr. It's not really the Zephyr, but I heard something go by. Yeah, it's one of the many trains coming in from China. They're trying to move as much goods into the country as they can. As quickly as possible. As quickly as possible, yes.

Starting point is 01:20:51 They're loading up! Oh, well, let's talk about some tariffs. I got some tariff news. Let me see, where's my tariffs? Ah! Hehehe! I was kinda of right. It was a huge relief to US tech firms but it may be short lived. On Friday the US Customs Service announced that around 20 electronic products including phones and computers would be exempt from reciprocal tariffs.

Starting point is 01:21:20 But by Sunday the US President had downplayed the move. Donald Trump said that those products will be targeted on their upcoming sector specific tariffs, goods seen as critical to US national defense networks. I'm telling you that Jamocq, our commerce secretary, he said something that clearly was not true. It was not true that they were exempted. And so now they're kind of weaseling around, oh no, don't you worry, because something's coming back on that.

Starting point is 01:21:47 I think he jumped the gun on that one. Nobody is getting off the hook for the unfair trade balances. There was no tariff exception announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% fentanyl tariffs, and they are just moving to a different tariff bucket. Trump said semiconductors and the entire electronic supply chain are under review in a new national investigation. He promised to release details on Monday. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick for his part said semiconductor tariffs could be in

Starting point is 01:22:21 place within a month or two. Our medicines and our semiconductors need to be built in America. Donald Trump is on it. He's calling that out so you should understand these are included in the semiconductor tariffs that are coming. Howard, go out there and fix that. Oh, okay. Yes, sir.

Starting point is 01:22:38 Yes, boss. China reacted to the US move on Friday by describing it as merely a small step toward correcting what it called the wrong practice and urged Washington to cancel the tariffs entirely. I love that. Hey, yeah. What? You give me grief about my clips from NTD and you play this guy? Jeez.

Starting point is 01:22:59 These guys are from France 24. I don't know where they're getting them from. This is like D-listers You know kidding, you know, it's really bad and I I tried to pull some clips, but it just didn't work so I guess there was a some science award show last night and Seth Rogen was the co-host with What's the guy's name Norman Seth Rogen the comic yes and and this and it's like it's the guy's name Norman? Seth Rogen the comic? Yes and it's like it's the Oscars of Science and it's funded by you know Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg

Starting point is 01:23:33 etc and it's only online everyone's in tuxedos whoo yeah so great and then Seth Rogen this is what I was looking for I was looking for a clip Seth, well, isn't amazing that, you know, all these people funded it. And then yet you got one guy takes $300 million by as a president, you know, obviously slamming Elon Musk. So they cut that out. It's no longer available. But then I just went looking for it because I was, surely somebody recorded this and has a clip and all I got were AI

Starting point is 01:24:09 generated videos There must have been a hundred of them and they sound kind of okay, but then they'd all go Seth Rogin like, okay Well, all right your AI Rogin and it's like YouTube is just filled with AI news clips. It's horrible. It's become useless So I'd rather I'd rather have this guy Than the Seth Rogen guy's fine, you know, cuz I have the NTD guys who sound funny Yeah, but it seems to me you got a big network like f24 You could do something. Yeah, you could do some pay somebody some money that can actually speak English

Starting point is 01:24:50 So then we have the latest retaliation from China for what is worth Trump's trade war has hit the aerospace sector worse than previously thought China has now reported the ordered its airlines to pause orders from US plane maker Boeing along with parts made by American companies. Its top three airlines, Air China, China Eastern and China Southern, had planned to take delivery of a total 179 Boeing jets over the next two to three years. Uncertainty over tariffs has left manufacturers and airlines alike asking just who'll pay the cost and scouring contracts to see just how exposed they might be Even if Washington's reciprocal tariffs are currently on hold with a baseline 10% in place for three months

Starting point is 01:25:33 Except for China which has a full 145% levy in place The long build times for aircraft means those figures could easily change between now and ultimate means those figures could easily change between now and ultimate delivery. With an order from Airbus on the cards, US airline Delta has stated it won't pay the cost of tariffs at all, and the European planemaker is saying it's still assessing the impact of trade tensions and a possible 20% duty on its exports. Some airlines like Ryanair have indicated they could defer deliveries until next year while waiting for clarity. Either way, with a decades-old agreement that maintained aerospace traders duty-free now in tatters, the world's airlines and plane makers could now be on course for a serious standoff.

Starting point is 01:26:17 Yeah, the Dutch newspapers were just filled with this story that, oh, travel to the US has dumped down through the basement, no one's buying, oh, the airlines are in trouble, no one's buying tickets to go to America. I don't even know if that's true. Well, you'll find out on the way back if the plane's dead empty, you'll know. Yeah, well, it was full going over. Full going over. And so the European Central Bank lowered their interest rate again. This is their third cut, I believe, in a row. Now 2.25 percent,

Starting point is 01:26:59 which seems quite low compared to the United States. And President Trump is not happy about that. The closing bell on Wall Street today ringing in new losses, the Dow ending the day down almost 2%. The plunge attributed to the Federal Reserve Chairman's new warnings today about President Trump's sweeping tariff policy. Tariffs are highly likely to generate at least a temporary rise in inflation. Even before Powell spoke, tech stocks started dipping after the Trump administration put up new roadblocks for giant chipmaker, Nvidia, to export to China.

Starting point is 01:27:32 The company saying it will lose $5.5 billion. Some imports coming into the US from China, like electric vehicles and syringes, are now facing a hefty 245% tariff. The White House says there were tariff talks today between president Trump and This is another thing that they've done. Um, there were all re- so they're, they're adding up the tariffs from 2017, making it sound like we've just made it go to 245, but this is, this includes tariffs from-

Starting point is 01:28:03 Also is the question in my mind, what cars from China. Yeah coming into the US Yeah, all of those none. I have seen one Chinese We don't have one Chinese car in the US that I know of no No, no, but it's so why did she say that she said she specifically said cars She doesn't like Trump White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and representatives from Japan, America's fourth biggest trading partner. But a new lawsuit over the Trump tariffs from the fifth biggest economy in the world, California. We're also the largest manufacturing state in the United States of America, $412 billion

Starting point is 01:28:43 output. And I want to put that in perspective. Newsom charging that Trump does not have the authority to unilaterally place tariffs using the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, requesting a judge void the tariffs and block them. Where the hell is Congress? Where the hell is Speaker Johnson?

Starting point is 01:29:02 Do your job. And so I, yeah, I'm angry as a parent. As a parent. As a taxpayer. You said the terrorists are impacting California's trade with US trading partners around the world. California is also the nation's biggest importer. Poor California.

Starting point is 01:29:24 We're the biggest, we're number one biggest, we're the biggest importer. And by the way, President Trump, he's fixed it, he's solved inflation and everything's good. US President Donald Trump claims he's fixed inflation despite the recent market turmoil triggered by his enactment of global tariffs. We have to solve problems and we already solved inflation. If you look at the numbers, the numbers are incredible actually. Stock market is up and we are not letting other countries take advantage of this country like they have for the last 40 years. His remarks follow the release of the latest monthly consumer price report which shows a 2.4% inflation rate for March. It also comes

Starting point is 01:30:06 after the US president offered an exemption to Apple and other technology companies, prompting global stock rises after another tumultuous week. Trump has since announced he might temporarily exempt the auto industry from tariffs to give car makers time to adjust their supply chains. However, many economists remain reluctant to view a single consumer report as evidence of a broader trend and continue to fear that Trump's tariffs will raise prices and harm the economy. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:30:39 How was Andrew? I didn't hear the, I didn't hear the show. DH unplugged, uh, comes out every, uh, Tuesday night. How wasplugged comes out every Tuesday night. How is Andrew doing? He's hanging in there. It wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. Oh, okay. He probably made money.

Starting point is 01:30:53 He probably got in on that big buy. The big buying opportunity. I don't know. Okay, good. I'm glad. He has not contacted me, which means he's really angry. No, I don't know. Okay, good. I'm glad. I don't... I hate... He has not contacted me, which means he's really angry. No, I don't think he knows... I don't think he... I think you're right. He doesn't listen to the show anymore.

Starting point is 01:31:11 Oh, no. He's too busy watching MSNBC. Shaking his fist. I don't know how much more you're gonna have to insult him before you get that call. I'm trying real hard. I want the call. Andrew, give Adam a call. He's lonely.

Starting point is 01:31:32 How about this? This had kind of an extra little double feature in here which was mentioned, but I didn't hear anyone make the connection. This is the purge over at the Defense Department. This is the Reuters report on it.

Starting point is 01:31:48 An advisor to US Defense Secretary Pete Hagstaff has been escorted from the Pentagon after being identified during an investigation into leaks at the Department of Defense. Dan Caldwell has been placed on administrative leave for quote, an unauthorized disclosure. That's according to a U.S. official who says the investigation remains ongoing. Phil Stewart covers the Pentagon for us. He has been the first person implicated in a investigation that was launched on March 21st. And this investigation authorized the use of polygraphs against senior Defense

Starting point is 01:32:25 Department officials, which obviously signaled that Hegseth and the Trump administration were quite concerned about something going on at the Pentagon related to leaks of classified information. And now we have Dan Caldwell, who has been escorted out, but we're hearing that he may not be the last person to be implicated in this investigation. Okay. So Dan Caldwell. All right, we have a name and let's learn about Dan Caldwell.

Starting point is 01:32:52 Now who is Dan Caldwell? So Dan Caldwell had been one of the most influential people in the Pentagon that nobody had ever heard of. He was first named, kind of came out into the public view when the Atlantic published the transcript from a signal chat that involved planning for the US launch of strikes against the Houthis in Yemen. And when the US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, had the name his point person for this coordination on this major US offensive. He named Dan

Starting point is 01:33:25 Caldwell. Now, Dan Caldwell and Pete Hegseth go way back. They've known each other for a long time. He had tremendous influence and it shows that this leak investigation is no joke and that Hegseth is willing to let key allies go if it means purging the Pentagon from leakers. What are the chances that this guy was on the dreaded signal call? He's being kicked out for unauthorized disclosure. Now I'm thinking he might have been the one that added the journalist. Well there's something interesting about this guy. His wiki page, for example, has got spook written all over it, but not in the Spot the Spook

Starting point is 01:34:04 myth. There's two forms that we look at. One is spot the spook, which is you can see their background, what schools they went to, and then they had assignments all over the world for some unknown reason. Speaking multiple Eastern languages. Yeah, exactly. Russian and Arabic. I mean, come on. So then there's the other one, which is the nothing. Empty. Just completely empty. It's empty. It's like there's no... What school did he go to? Have no idea.

Starting point is 01:34:33 When was he born? I don't know. Does his parents have the same name as him? Hard to say because there's nothing, no mention. So, we have this type of guy. And so, I suspect he might be planted. For a long time. He was long time confidant. You put a guy in there and he just, you know, he does the reports back.

Starting point is 01:34:55 Well, if you listen to that entire Kurt, what's his name, interview with Tucker, man, he says there are so many people, particularly in defense, who are so corrupt and making so much money off of war and things that we start, crap that we stir up. And I would love that guy to be testifying somewhere. After the Epstein files come out, of course. Yeah, that'll be the day. I can wait. I have patience. What about Diddy, at least? Come on. No, Diddy just believed he was not guilty to something else. They throw Diddy in from time to time, but that lawyer's kind of falling apart.

Starting point is 01:35:33 The Busby guy, he's got all kinds of problems going on. Surprise. What's surprising is Diddy's still alive. That's what's surprising. Must be a reason. Well, they're not going to make it. He's going to, okay, well, we'll see how long that lasts. Must be a reason. Must be a reason. Keep it in mind.

Starting point is 01:35:55 So, Boasberg, the judge. Yeah, this is an interesting. I got some analysis on this. This is Boasberg contempt NPR is the opener. Now, this is the guy who... The judge who told him to turn the plane around. The Trump administration, quote, demonstrated willful disregard for a court's order and is likely in criminal contempt. That is what U.S. District Judge James Boesberg ruled today here in Washington.

Starting point is 01:36:23 Boesberg has been trying to determine if the government purposely ignored him last month when he told it to turn back two airplanes, planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador. And here's Adrian Florido is here. Hi, Adrian. Hi. Hi, Mary Louise. What else did Judge Boesberg say in his ruling? Well, he said that he found that, in fact, government officials did ignore his order to turn those planes around.

Starting point is 01:36:50 A little context, Mary Louise. On March 15th, President Trump announced that he'd invoked the Wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 so he could quickly deport members of the Venezuelan gang Trinera without hearings. Later that day, officials in Texas loaded dozens of men into two airplanes. The ACLU got wind of the government's plans and sued. During an emergency hearing in DC that evening, Judge Boesberg asked government lawyers if the planes had already taken off and said if they had, they needed to turn around.

Starting point is 01:37:21 The planes did not turn back though. They landed in El Salvador and that country's president locked the men up. Boesberg in his ruling today said the government could have returned those planes because they took off during his hearing and they landed after he'd issued his order. He wrote that, and I'm quoting here, the Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial orders. And he said that he had probable cause to find the administration in criminal contempt. Danielle Pletka Criminal contempt. So what does that mean

Starting point is 01:37:49 when that's applied to the federal government? David Boesberg No, ask Eric Holder what that means. It means nothing. It means completely nothing. David Boesberg Well, it depends on what the government says next. Boesberg gave it until next Wednesday to do one of two things. It can show him how it's working to correct its violation. And he said that the most obvious way would be to reassert custody of the man it deported

Starting point is 01:38:10 so they can challenge their deportations in federal courts. Now, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, did a deep dive for me. And he said- Deep dive! Deep dive, yes. And he says, this was only about habeas corpus. Deep dive, yes. And he says, this is only about habeas corpus, habeas corpus. And yes, but you can't sue in a different state and they should have sued in Texas. And so this whole thing was, it's technicality really.

Starting point is 01:38:36 It's not like this judge can really turn stuff around. The whole thing is, pardon the pun, trumped up. Yeah. They're trying to get something going here. They are still being held in that Salvadoran prison, and many of their families have flatly denied that they are gang members. If the government chooses not to do that, Boesberg said then... Do they have a sound bite? Do they have a crying wife?

Starting point is 01:38:58 Do they have crying children? Do they have anyone like a mom? Anything? They tried. The family? Oh no, the family is saying, oh no, oh no. If the government chooses not to do that, Boasberg said, then he said it needs to tell him the names of the specific government officials who ignored his order. He said he will hold contempt hearings and if necessary, appoint a lawyer to criminally prosecute them for contempt and they could face fines or prison.

Starting point is 01:39:23 So how are both sides responding to this ruling? Start with the lawyers who brought this case. Well, they're from the ACLU and from a group called Democracy Forward. This is Democracy Forward's attorney in this case, Sky Pearman. This ruling, it's clear that we've seen the government has acted in blatant disregard for the judiciary. Treating court orders as if they are optional. And that's not how our systems of checks and balances works.

Starting point is 01:39:49 This really is something that should concern every single person in the country. She said that her team will continue working through the courts to ensure that everyone in the U.S. gets due process. On the other side, a White House spokesman said the government will appeal today's ruling. He said the president is committed to ensuring that, quote, criminal illegal migrants are no longer a threat to Americans. The Department of Justice also issued a statement calling Boasberg's ruling a judicial power grab. You know, not in the news, and I only have read a report about this, this Boesberg is under investigation himself for taking drafts of amicus briefs

Starting point is 01:40:30 from organizations like ACLU and then redlining him, sending him back saying, no, no, no, you change this, change this, then send it back to me. And then using those to dismiss cases or, you know, to do something like this, which is hold people in contempt. He's under investigation because Holman has some goods on him. He has some whistleblower, but they can't find any news, any clips about this. Of course not. What am I thinking? Hey, Durrani. Shocker.

Starting point is 01:40:57 This is, of course, not the only case in which federal courts are trying to force the Trump administration to obey court orders. Zoom out. Give us the bigger picture. Well, members of the Trump administration are not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. What, is he a bitcoiner? Zoom out! Zoom out! Zoom out! Give us the bigger picture. Tell us what you've learned. Well, members of the Trump administration have said they're not going to let courts

Starting point is 01:41:22 get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities. And today is the first time a judge has clearly said they will be punished for not obeying courts. If they still refuse, that is where legal experts say that we will have a full blown constitutional crisis where the balance of powers between the executive and judicial branches may not hold. Oh, at least we have another constitutional crisis on our hands. We have super cuts, so we're good. We're ready. Bring it on. We are ready. Bring it on. We need it. I do actually have some clips about the wrongly

Starting point is 01:41:55 deported man. Yeah, NPR. How coincidental. If you don't mind, I shall roll these out. Judge Polozini's ordered the Trump administration to provide more information on whether it has done anything to facilitate the return of a Maryland man deported to El Salvador by mistake. And Piaz Jimena Bustillo has been following this and she's here with me in our studios in Washington. Good morning, Jimena. Good morning, Michelle. The judge originally ordered for two items. First for the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release and return from Secod. This is a mega prison in El Salvador.

Starting point is 01:42:30 The White House has said that his deportation was an administrative error. Second to ensure that if he is brought back to the US... Stopped the clip. Stopped. So who said this administrative error quote? Everyone keeps bringing it up. I look for it. I, I specifically when looking for the administration says it's an

Starting point is 01:42:49 administrative error. Who said this? The administration, there is no thought administration that has a voice. There's a person that must've said it, but I can't, Carolyn Levitt said it. Levitt said it. She did. Yeah, she did. She said it was administrative error. And she said, oh, Claire, I think she actually said clerical error. I'd have to look it up. But what that clerical error is, is not entirely clear.

Starting point is 01:43:18 So he was apparently deported by mistake. But when they looked at him and went, no, you actually deserve to be deported by mistake. But when they looked at him and went, you actually deserve to be deported. You know, what's interesting is you listen to all these reports on the one side, the side we're playing. And then you listened to like, Jesse Waters, who did a really deep,

Starting point is 01:43:37 deep dive on the whole thing. And this guy's like, this is a bad person, the bad guy. The one side of the argument. He beat his wife. I heard he beat his wife. He beat his wife twice.

Starting point is 01:43:49 He beat her up twice and probably more than that, but she's reported it twice. And then he says wife beater. We should deport all wife beaters to El Salvador. I'm all for that. Yeah, it's banishment. Yes. So the, did you see the clip, a TikTok clip where the guy beats his wife in a bar, he gives her a couple of slugs? No.

Starting point is 01:44:12 And every guy in the bar beats the crap out of the guy? Well, good. Yeah, that's what I said. I know. You're doom scrolling on X, because that's all you get. If you just scroll on X, you wind up getting, uh, people in cars, shooting at cops, people beating each other, people getting killed in accidents, in car camera of a truck driver, getting an accident. It is, everything is short videos that are just meant to stress you

Starting point is 01:44:43 out. This is not healthy. I just said this side. Not healthy. So Jay is putting up the Tech Grouch on TikTok and on Instagram. Oh, reruns? Reruns? The reruns for starts,

Starting point is 01:44:56 and then we're gonna do some originals. But so- Well, I gotta like him. How's the Tech Grouch doing? Is he going viral? I just showed up yesterday. And so, um, she gives me her phone, which has tick tock on it. She just picked some of these that you like. And so I start doom scrolling.

Starting point is 01:45:13 And you know, it's very, holy crap. And then I see, I've only looked taken the tick tocks from X and repurposed and they've been filtered. And when I go on tick tock, you know, I end up, since I'm on a VPN half half the time I'm in Argentina, so everything's in Spanish, I don't care. And even though the same basic TikToks, only everything's in Spanish. Same idea, same idea.

Starting point is 01:45:34 And they're dancing, they're doing this stupid dancing. And, but I got on the phone thing, cause you know, you mentioned this, the phone is different. Yes. Holy mackerel. I told you. And and within just a few minutes you were hooked I had to just give it back to her within a few minutes they had they were starting to every third advertisers like you tick-tock tick-tock to shop shop shop

Starting point is 01:45:58 shop and the advertisements I started getting out of the blue were for teeth implants they already know you and I said I said to Jay said what am I getting advertisements I started getting out of the blue were for teeth implants. They already know you. And I said, I said to Jay, I said, why am I getting all these teeth implants? She says, cause they know you're older. Yeah. They already know you. And I said, this is your connect. This is your phone. She says, no, she said, she tells me this. I, I know she studied it. I don't know how she got this information. She says, it's been determined that older, because she watched me do this.

Starting point is 01:46:27 It's the way you scroll. The way I scroll and the fact that I stay on certain of the presentations and the ones that include a lot of AI imaging, according to her means you're older. Because you fall for it. No, I'm not falling for anything. It's amusing as hell.

Starting point is 01:46:49 But you like it. Yeah. It's very likable to watch some of these AI presentations because they've got a dancing dog, they got a little baby that's dancing and he's muscle bound. He's dancing. We got an old coot roll out the dentures. And so within five or six of these things, they figured out, I must be an old coot roll out the dentures. And so within five or six of these things, they figured out I must be an old coot. And so they started rolling out the ads for teeth implants.

Starting point is 01:47:14 Now was she not angry that you ruined her algorithm? No, she's, according to her, it doesn't, whoever's doing the scrolling, it takes the, it's in real time, they'll change it. So on the plane, so I had to fly to Atlanta first and I'm sitting next to this guy and, uh, and he has a gigantic iPhone. I mean, I didn't, I mean, I didn't know they were this big. It's huge. And, and so I'm just sitting there. I'm in the aisle.

Starting point is 01:47:43 He's in the middle seat and And I and he's and he's going through Instagram It is amazing to watch so it's like flick. It's something flick up one. Okay Okay, look look look. Oh Press down heart send to somebody go back like it flick next. Flick, next one. Okay. Gay guy. No. Next. Gay. Yeah. And then, oh, oh, I'm gonna send this to three people. Bada bada bada bada. And then click flick. Oh, LOL. Flick. And it's fast. It's fast. The thumbs are moving, moving, moving. He's just doing stuff. He's grooving all over the place. It was fascinating. And of course, he had no idea I was looking at him because

Starting point is 01:48:25 he was completely... You can't pay that much attention to you because he's focused. Maybe I don't get out enough but this was an excellent opportunity just to watch. He's probably in his 30s, late 30s. I was like, wow, you are in tune with the machine. And every, you can see him, this decision-making process, like, do I watch it? No, and you can even see him watching something. You see the thumb going closer. Do I flip this one up?

Starting point is 01:48:58 Oh wait, I'm gonna wait for a second. And then he has to make a response. If he's watched the whole video, it has to be a heart, a like, a comment, a share, a lot of sharing going on. I was like, this is so bad. That's terrible. It is.

Starting point is 01:49:15 Well, I mean, I was on the thing for, I don't know, maybe, I don't know how many minutes, but it was long enough for me to give it back to her and say, you know, I think you've got enough material, material of the favorites that I could do reaction videos to. But it's, and there are some, in fact, there was the one thing I was kind of fascinated with were these women who can't cook videos. Oh yeah. And there's endless, endless women who can't cook. The mom and her son, have you seen that one?

Starting point is 01:49:44 No, but I'm sure it's in the mix. Yeah. But it's like hundreds of women who can't cook and they have huge followings according to Jay, especially the ones who really can't cook. And of course we all fall for they have big following. Who knows? Who knows? These numbers are phony.

Starting point is 01:50:03 It could be all fake, but I would follow that. there's one woman that can't cook that is so bad. It's like, holy mackerel, how do you even come up with these ideas? You know, you take the tacos, you put the sauce on it, you take a can of beans, you put potato chips on top and then you hit it with your foot. And a lot of cheese. It goes on and on. And always cheese, lots of cheese. A lot of cheese. Cheese, a lot of cheese. A lot of cheese. Cheese and a lot of cheese.

Starting point is 01:50:28 Cheese at the end. We are doomed. And when you put it in the oven and it comes out, oh, and she's always, she scrapes it out of there and puts it on a plate. This is so delicious. My husband loves it. And I'm thinking this poor husband is lucky he doesn't shoot himself. But yeah.

Starting point is 01:50:42 Tech Grouch, save us. We need saving Tech Grouch. Come on in. It's the exit strategy of all exit strategies. You will be a sensation. Sensation. Since we're speaking about the phone, you know, I've given up on the hollow book because you haven't done anything, but I had a new idea.

Starting point is 01:51:01 No, no. I'm still getting people sending stuff in. No, please. You're not doing anything. But I figured maybe if we changed it to noagendasideboard.com, you know, so you have a big drawer and then we just send out this whole sideboard and you put the phone in the drawer and you can really be like John. Anything to get us out of this gig.

Starting point is 01:51:22 Anything. Anything. All right. to get us out of this gig. Anything. Anything. Alright. You were on a series of clips that I rudely interrupted. I don't think I even want to go back to them. It's not even interesting. Okay, well I do have an interesting

Starting point is 01:51:36 one before the break. This is NPR is under attack by the government finally they're going to pull the funding. Yes, all 5%. Not even that. Yeah. So here is the, I have a series of four clips that they have the attack on NPR

Starting point is 01:51:54 clip and they brought out Maher, the woman, the mayor, whatever they call her. She's the NPR boss now. She's the NPR boss. And here we go with the attack on NPR. Well, NPR is in the headlines this week. That is because the Trump administration has drafted a memo to Congress calling for lawmakers to end nearly all federal funding to public media. That includes NPR and PBS and would include money already appropriated by Congress.

Starting point is 01:52:23 That's according to a White House official who spoke to NPR. So we have invited our president and CEO, Catherine Maher, to speak with us live. Welcome. Thank you for having me. I want to quickly clarify the relationship here for people listening. You are my boss. You hold the top job at NPR. But you're not a journalist.

Starting point is 01:52:42 You're not involved in newsroom editorial decisions. That's completely correct. And you, your office, you have not seen or had input into the questions that I am about to ask you. That's right. We've never met before and you are just a random person from the audience. From the audience and here we go. That's correct.

Starting point is 01:53:00 I want to note, we have asked, the newsroom has asked the White House to comment on what their goal is Here with pulling back funding. They have not responded. They have The goal is to pull back funding Hey, we like to take your money away. Oh, what's your goal? So it's the goal take your money away. Hello meant on what their goal is here with pulling back funding They have not responded. They have posted on the White House website a list of NPR and PBS stories that it says represent biased content and, quote, radical woke propaganda disguised as news. This includes stories dealing

Starting point is 01:53:40 with LGBTQ issues, with coverage of race, coverage of politics. Understanding Catherine, that many of the examples on this list date from before your tenure, does NPR stand by its journalism? Absolutely. Well, why'd you cut that off? I didn't mean to. Yeah, you did. Well, but absolutely is what she said.

Starting point is 01:54:01 Absolutely. Yes. Of course. She doesn't even know what they're talking about. She's not a journalist, but she stands by their reporting. She trusts them implicit said. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, she doesn't even know what they're talking about. Well, she's not a journalist, but she stands by their reporting. She trusts them implicitly. Yeah, good.

Starting point is 01:54:09 Has NPR been formally notified by the White House about the rescission? We have not. How much money is at stake? In this particular package, it would be all the funds for fiscal year 26 and 27. For public radio in total, that is about 250 million. For public media as a whole it's a little over a billion dollars including public television. The central question, what would be the effect on NPR of losing government funding? Pack your bag, lady!

Starting point is 01:54:46 The biggest effect would be on the NPR network, which are the 246 stations around the country that you're probably listening to us on right now. Those are our member stations and they receive about a hundred million of the 121, 22 million that goes to public radio every single year. Have these people heard of streaming lately? I mean, we don't really need the broadcast stations. Have you considered? It gets thicker than this. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 01:55:15 So the big impact would be on rural stations, stations in geographies that are quite large or complex in order to be able to receive broadcasts where infrastructure costs are very high. You could see some of those stations really having to cut back services or potentially going away altogether. So we're throwing away a lot throwing around a lot of big numbers here but basically that just to stick with this point because I think a lot of people may not understand NPR, the network you and I work for, gets around 1% of our annual budget directly from the federal government.

Starting point is 01:55:47 You're making the point that a lot of our member stations would be hit considerably harder. So is the 1 billion part of the 1%? Are they getting a trillion dollars? No, but she is like 250 million is the 1%, which is what when you make it, if it's 1% that's $20 billion overall. Am I got my numbers right? It's a hundred, a hundred to one. It's 20 billion.

Starting point is 01:56:16 She did 250 million. So one zero will be a 2.5. Yeah. 25 billion. Yeah. So 20, so their total budget is 25, just NPR, not the billion, but if it was a billion, then we're talking about a hundred billion. All public media. It's probably all public media.

Starting point is 01:56:37 All public media was a billion, she said, from the government. And it's only 1%. So wait a minute, you're telling me that they've got $20 billion from including the bill, you know, the two 50 from the, uh, from the government plus underwriters, advertisers, individuals, foundation. This is much better. This is a better deal than broadcast media. Squarespace rely MyPillow.com, Code Bongino.

Starting point is 01:57:09 Wow. It's very fuzzy. And they're whining. They've got $20 billion to play with and they're going to lose a billion. Oh no! I'm sorry, they've got $25 billion to they got 20 billion, 25 billion to play with, they're going to lose 250 million and they're whining because it's going to hurt the little say, where's that other money going? Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you $25 billion worth of money. Suffer and suck a dash.

Starting point is 01:57:38 I'm Scott. Simon. He literally has a golden voice. Let me tell you. He literally has a golden voice. Let me tell you. So we receive about 1% of our budget. It goes to support things like body armor for journalists covering conflict overseas, extra support for our presidential and national elections, all the sorts of things that we

Starting point is 01:58:00 want to invest in to ensure that we're able to report on issues that matter to the public. But generally speaking, most of our operating budget comes from our membership fees and that's what allow our members to be able to receive programming. It comes from underwriting support. It comes from private donations, individual audience member donations. And that same thing is true for member stations, except federal funding makes up a much bigger percentage of their total budget. If all government funding goes away, would we survive? Oh! One percent!

Starting point is 01:58:32 One percent! I'm doing a... You're going to lose one percent of all their funding and they're going, whoa, we're going to survive, we lost one percent! I'm telling you, does this make any sense to anybody listening? No, they're not being, I mean, and then it's going towards body armor for journalists. That's the big expenditure. Well, we have to cut on the body. Hey, we're going from 25 billion. We got to going to 21 billion, 750 million.

Starting point is 01:59:05 Sorry, no body armor for you. We need the caviar and we need those shrimp deals for lunch. We can't give you body armor. No, this doesn't make any sense. I can't believe it's that much money. I can't believe that 25 billion. What is the operating budget of CBS or NBC? You think that they're spending 25 billion?

Starting point is 01:59:33 Well, this is by the way, that 25 billion is NPR. It's not even the television. I thought it was all of public media. No, all public media was 1 billion from the government. This doesn't sound right. If that one billion is part of one percent, that would mean a hundred billion goes into the... These guys are making money, making bank. Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me. I think the question is, would we be able to thrive as a national network? That is what I Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.

Starting point is 02:00:05 I think the question is, would we be able to thrive as a national network? That is what I am focused on, is we get so much value as public media by being part of a 50 state network that covers 99.7% of the American population. If federal funding goes away, that network is absolutely at risk. The quality of service, the ability to cover everyone, people who live in what would otherwise be news deserts, and as a result there's no question that NPR would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage. Yes, literally richness of our national coverage. Very rich richness of your

Starting point is 02:00:43 national coverage. It's obvious. NPR would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage if those local newsrooms... So it's local newsrooms that would be going away, often in places where local newspapers have already been designated. One percent! Make the case, why should any tax dollars support public broadcasting when there are plenty of other news organizations around, when anyone frankly these days can produce programming on their iPhone? Okay.

Starting point is 02:01:13 On your iPhone, yeah, that's what the tax lady said to me when she went through the Airstream. Yes, I know, I use that story all the time, by the way. Can't you just make your podcast on your iPhone? By the way, NPR uses the Neumann U67, which costs $7,895. That's a microphone. I'm literally using an unmarketed,

Starting point is 02:01:39 never to be sold, Curry One microphone, which costs about... Soon to be available to everyone absolutely and I think that it's important for public media to be able to continue to be relevant in a time where there is a lot of coverage of different issues and areas of interest and at the same time I think it's very easy to say that there's universal coverage because there's so much content being produced but the reality is there are many places in this country that do not have that kind of

Starting point is 02:02:07 access to either cell phone service or high speed broadband where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access to the news. Hey, I'm out here in the sticks. Hey, honey, you got a radio because I don't know we can't get television or nothing. We can't get no internet you can just do the tech grout just audio and then we can just put AI scaramanga can put the tech grouch over it you know I have to address pretty much do that by now yeah you should you should consider that did you see the latest scaramanga video no I did not I'll tell you in a minute or high speed

Starting point is 02:02:44 broadband where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access to news. Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about. No, she mentioned zero places. She said some places where people live who had that voice that you have. Who have no... Yeah! You can't get any reception. Move the rabbit ears, honey. Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about 20% of Americans live in an area without any other local news coverage other than their

Starting point is 02:03:24 local public radio station. Oh, yeah. Like Austin, where we were snowed in for five days without electricity. I turned on my local NPR station, KUT, and I got, this is fresh air with Terry Gross. Bull crap, lady. You're right. This is why hyperlocal podcasting is the way to go. There is no local programming.

Starting point is 02:03:48 This is tremendously important as a public service. And just because not every single person uses it every day, you know, I don't drive on our interstates every day. And yet when I need it, it's there. No, you are in the back of the limo. You don't drive. You better be in the back of the limo. But that's a false equivalency anyway. And by the way, the same places that don't have any internet, don't have the interstate either. Ah. This is like bullcrap.

Starting point is 02:04:14 And these people are still begging for money. They have a budget of anywhere between 25 and a hundred billion dollars from their own numbers that they just, you heard her, she said it's 1%. It's unbelievable. And they get it, they get money from the government for no good reason. They get money from foundations. They get money from individuals, you know, viewers like you, and they get money from

Starting point is 02:04:41 advertising, whatever you want to call it. So they got money coming in into underwriting is another way. They're got money coming in every which way that, that broadcast people that people that actually have to work for a living don't get all these inputs. This is ridiculous. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Perfect segue. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the new CDC report, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and the only Mr. John C. DeMora!

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Starting point is 02:05:36 a modern podcast app. You can get them at PodcastApps.com. No matter what Silicon Valley tries to do, your favorite podcast will never be deplatformed by now while stocks last and We thank our producers For how I mean we'd love to thank our underwriters our advertisers and the government for 25 billion dollars I'll tell you something. I've do a show every day. I do three hours every day every day John time Do the show you but I don't do the show 25 billion dollars Every day. John Ton did the show. He'd be like, I don't want to do the show. $25 billion. Oh, let's do a show.

Starting point is 02:06:07 We would be deconstructing the media like crazy. 25 billion. Every day I do outcome. I will bring a DVD or USB stick to your house. Every day I'll deliver it to you. Where you have no reception, you poor person without interstate or without internet or any reception. Just got cows just looking at the fields. you have no reception you poor person without interstate or without internet or any reception

Starting point is 02:06:25 just got cows just looking at looking at the fields little house on the prairie so we thank our producers for the value for value model which we've been employing in our 18th year now which means we give you the show no charge you don't have to tune into the radio you just get it on your on your computer on your smartphone However, you want to get it. It's it's available everywhere from time to time people put it on YouTube foolishly Because it always gets taken down and oh man. I can't post the show on YouTube anymore. I already got two strikes from your show. Hello Hey, I got a great idea. I think you should simulcast on X.

Starting point is 02:07:08 And like, why would we do that? Because you have all, we're going to build our audience on X and then what if Elon sells X or Elon decides he wants to go a different direction and we're not going to have those guys take them down or our audience could get taken down. We're not going to have those guys take him down. Or our audience could get taken down. No, we're not going to do that. No, no, we're taking the... It's not an easy route. It's the narrow gate, but we're going that way.

Starting point is 02:07:36 This is just what we've decided. And all we ask for in return is that you just give us some value back. Time, talent, treasure. So we always thank people who support us financially $50 or above but we also like to thank people who do things for us and we are always grateful to our dudes named Ben and do debts named Bernadette who are keeping servers running for us and and so many people do so many different things and then we have no agenda art generator comm where artists can

Starting point is 02:08:05 upload art on the fly during the live show or you know sometime during the live show because we just choose a good piece that has it all for us you know we're art directors in that case and we're just looking for something that's funny and hopefully something that's some fun that we provided and then we use that as our album art we use it to promote the show and it always is a good way to get attention. And we feel that it works. We have enough evidence of that.

Starting point is 02:08:34 And so we want to thank Nesworks. Oh, Nesworks, Nesworks. He's been around for a long time. He did the back to school shot, the back to school shots lunchbox. We were actually considering two different ones, no, between this one and another one. We liked the back to school shots lunchbox. Then there was the sign on the Oval Office door.

Starting point is 02:09:02 Yeah, I was going to use that for the newsletter. You didn't use it. No. Oh, hey, what is, why is the, um, the art generator? I'm only seeing maybe it's on a laptop screen. I'm only seeing two, two rows all

Starting point is 02:09:15 of a sudden instead of three. Hmm. Uh, it looks fine on mine. Okay. Um, I'm gonna have some other things. Click submit it again. Submit mine. Okay. I'm going to have some other things. Click submit it again. Submit it.

Starting point is 02:09:28 Okay. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that works. Good work. I can always see a lot of fun t-shirts coming up that we get to pick from. Let's see. There was some barista jokes about the blue-haired the liberals make better coffee I kind of like the the chaos

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Starting point is 02:21:18 learned about a new car model and suddenly you start seeing it everywhere on the road in commercials even your neighbor just bought one is it a mere coincidence or is it something more to it? Welcome to the world of Badr-Meinhof phenomenon otherwise known as frequency illusion Yes Yeah, well, I didn't know that I didn't know it had a name Badr-Meinhof was a bunch of terrorists I thought it was a train stop somewhere in Germany. I was a bunch of terrorists. I thought it was a train stop somewhere in Germany. I, I, I, you know, it is now we got to, we have to look into this. Anyway, he goes,

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Starting point is 02:27:31 So that's Noagenderdonations.com. Thank you again for supporting the Noagender Show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth Yo Yo, yo, yo, yo, what do we have? Let's see. There was some other stuff going on. Oh, yes What do we have? Let's see, there was some other stuff going on. Oh, yes. I got some Trans Maoism stuff, which could probably fold into some TikTok clips you've got. I'm just guessing.

Starting point is 02:28:14 Well, I've got some TikTok clips. I got two. You want to do those first, really? Yeah, let's get to it because they're fun and people love them. Okay. Let's start with the historians. A line has been crossed for the 10 years that Trump has terrorized the American political scene.

Starting point is 02:28:32 We have been asking the question of when do we need to go? What's the danger signs? What are the lines that need to be crossed for you to realize it's time to pull the shoe? It just happened. Three prominent Yale historians have now fled for Canada. Jason Stanley, Timothy Snyder, whose book I've recommended on my page, and Timothy's wife Marcy Shore have all decided to leave. Why? Because those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. And they looked around at what's going on in our country and said,

Starting point is 02:29:04 we're not safe time to go. If I'm going to be able to continue my work and educate people on what's going on, I need to go. I can't do that here safely anymore because the Trump administration is rapidly descending into fascism and dictatorship and they're not safe anymore to educate the public about the things that they know about history to try and prevent these types of things. When Hitler took over in 1933, it wasn't just that and mass extermination.

Starting point is 02:29:37 There was a lead up many years. Obviously, their largest perceived enemy was the Jewish people, but they targeted lots of other groups as well. It was political opponents, civil servants who voted in a way that they didn't agree with. Sound familiar? We're offering buyouts. Turkey. So that they can replace everybody with yes people in our current government. Trans people, gay people, disabled people who they didn't want to take care of.

Starting point is 02:30:04 They've been attacking gay and trans people in this country. They've been going after services for disabled people. What? These historians see the writing on the wall. So if you were looking for your oh shit sign, it's here. Okay, well a couple of things. Let's go first of all, the three historians, there's a couple that are historians. The other person is, he teaches philosophy, he's not a historian, so she's got that wrong.

Starting point is 02:30:35 The other thing is the woman that's mentioned, she's already living in Canada. She's been there because she took a job up there before Trump was elected. And the other guy was offered a job for two years to go up there. So he's going to go up there because it's lucrative and his wife's there. The whole thing, this is like just creating something out of nothing. It's just astonishing to me. Well, allow me to interject your TikTok clips with a history lesson of my own. This is a super cut. It's only a minute. Don't worry.

Starting point is 02:31:04 From 1993 to 2025. So this is a good history, not of fascism in America, but of oligarchs taking over. Bernie Sanders from 1993 to 2025. This great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarchy. The United States of America today is increasingly becoming an oligarchy. More and more moving toward an oligarchy. We are moving in the direction of oligarchy. We will move even more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy.

Starting point is 02:31:45 This great country is evolving into an oligarchic society. It is called oligarchy and that is the system we are rapidly moving toward. This is a budget that moves our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy. A handful of billionaires are moving this entire planet toward an oligarchic society. Start off with the bad news which is pretty bad and that is that under Donald Trump this country is hurtling rapidly toward oligarchy. Keep it up Bernie. One day it'll happen. I'm confident. Yeah, that's 30 years of clips. Yes, 30 years of Bernie Sanders saying we're rapidly moving towards an oligarchy.

Starting point is 02:32:32 But now under Trump, it's finally really happening. Oligarchy. Yeah, nobody even cares. No. All right, so the other TikTok clip, here's a classic liberal lady. Not sure why no one understands how I feel. You guys know that my husband turned Republican this term. I don't know why, threw his ass out of the house and I have to do more.

Starting point is 02:32:56 I don't want to shave my head cause that's going to hurt him. I'm going to look ugly. So I'm not doing that. I think I'm going to sleep with his friends. I think that's the only way. I think sleeping with his friends will do. What do you guys think? His liberal friends of court. Oh, please. This is this is tick tock click bait. You're not sleeping with anybody. This is dumb. She's not sleeping with anybody. Do better. Do better, John. She wishes she was a slut. Do better. Hey, big news from the UK. This hit the wires everybody. It was all a tizzy here because the UK High Court has come up with

Starting point is 02:33:33 some legal definitions and it's a problem. It's a long awaited decision that defines how equality laws are applied and who they apply to. The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2010 Equality Act defines a woman as someone born biologically female. It means the law won't apply to transgender women with a gender recognition certificate in the same way it applies to cisgender women. The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex.

Starting point is 02:34:07 Fascist! But we counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another. It is not. The judge stressed that the law still gives transgender people protection against discrimination in a separate part of the Equality Act. What it won't do though is define trans women as women in representation on public sector boards for example, which is what prompted the long running legal dispute in the first place. This is really interesting.

Starting point is 02:34:38 I wonder if this was happening in the US. As part of ESG when it was still in play, the economic social governance, you had to have equal representation of women in boardrooms. Now I'm wondering how many US boardrooms had trans women on it? Because that's what sparked this whole debate in the UK. Do you know by any chance? No, I have no idea. In fact I wasn't even thinking about it. Well no me neither. But the UK was doing it. Lobby group for Women's

Starting point is 02:35:12 Scotland complained that ministers had included trans people as part of the quotas in that law and brought the challenge against the Scottish Government in 2018. They see the ruling as a huge victory. Today the judges have said what we always believed to be the case, that women are protected by their biological sex, that sex is real and that women can now feel safe, that services and spaces designated for women are for women. The case may have started in Scotland but the decision adds to a particularly polarising debate over transgender rights across the UK and could be used by campaigners to press the government over its wider policies.

Starting point is 02:35:55 A small light, bright light in the UK all of a sudden. Quite surprising. It's very surprising. You'd think they'd go the other way. Then the most ironic clip of the day, which completely fits the what je zeg ben je zelf met je kop door de helft, Letitia James. The angle has obtained shocking allegations leveled by the Trump administration against New York Attorney General Letitia James. The Federal Housing Finance Agency has sent a criminal referral to the DOJ, accusing James

Starting point is 02:36:30 of mortgage fraud. In a letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Director Bill Poulty said James appears to have falsified records in order to meet certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms. He cited a property in Virginia that she's allegedly claimed as her principal residence and a property in New York that she claimed as a four unit structure instead of the required instead of a five which Pulte says means she was able to get a different type and more favorable loan. Joining me now is Jonathan Turley, Fox News contributor and law professor at GW University. Your reaction to these allegations?

Starting point is 02:37:07 Well, obviously, the irony is perfectly crushing. This is a person who prosecuted Trump for everything short of ripping a label off a mattress. And among the charges that were brought in New York, and not just a civil but the criminal case was making false or misleading statements to financial institutions. If we apply the Letitia James standard that she created, there'd be little question here. This seems pretty straightforward. What the administration is saying is this was not her principal residence. In fact, as a New York elected official,

Starting point is 02:37:48 she had to say that her principal residence was in New York. This was an out of state residence, but also they claimed that in some of these forms, she actually states that her father is her husband in order to file as a married couple. Once again, the Moe prophecy comes true. The black women get taken down. You couldn't take down Trump.

Starting point is 02:38:08 We're taking you down. There it is. The irony is delicious. Yeah, and also the woman Fanny is in trouble down in Georgia. Wasn't she already in trouble? That's what I meant. She's in trouble. Yeah, oh yeah.

Starting point is 02:38:24 So they had problems left and right. And then promises made, promises kept. We knew this was going to happen so it was no surprise, but it was kind of fun. Many remember the moment, a direct confrontation at a White House governor's meeting in February between President Donald Trump and Maine's Democratic Governor Janet Mills about her state not complying with his executive order banning transgender men in women's sports. Governor Mills is off mic but her defiance of the president is clear. Are you not going to comply with it? I'm complying with the state and federal laws. Well, we are the federal law. Well, you better do it. You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't.

Starting point is 02:39:08 And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. So you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. See you in court. Every state, good, I'll see you you in court I look forward to that. Fast forward to this week when US Attorney General Pam Bondi announced a federal lawsuit against the state of Maine over opting not to comply with the Trump executive order and violations of title nine sections that address eligibility of transgender students in athletic competition.

Starting point is 02:39:43 of transgender students in athletic competition. Yeah, there you go. So Pam Bondi, man, she is like fashion Barbie. I see her sitting in the Oval Office, you know, there's who was there? Bukele from El Salvador. And she's got her, I mean, everyone's in business attire and she's fashion Barbie. It's amazing.

Starting point is 02:40:02 She is, she got the hip pants on and everything. So taking care of business here against Maine. Attorney General Bondi outlined the goals of the federal lawsuit. We are seeking an injunction to get them to stop this, stop what they're doing. That's pretty simple. And we are seeking to have the titles returned to the young women who rightfully won these sports. Education Secretary Linda McMahon's words during the announcement served as more of

Starting point is 02:40:34 a warning than anything else that May may just be the start of legal battles over transgender men in women's sports, and even referred back to that February confrontation. We want to make sure that if you open women's sports or intimate facilities to males, you expose yourself to federal rights, federal civil rights investigations. Governor Mills will definitely get her wish. Boom! There you go. Yeah, Mills is just a whore.

Starting point is 02:41:06 And how does she ever get elected? She is the ugliest politician. No, no, no, John. That has nothing to do with it, yes. I think it has a lot to do with it. Her ugliness comes out. Well, yeah, it is internal. She's ugly in the inside.

Starting point is 02:41:22 Yeah, it's internal. I agree. Update on Iran. She's ugly in the inside. Yeah, it's internal. I agree. Update on Iran. We know it's just weeks away. Iran is not far from possessing a nuclear bomb. That's the warning from the UN's nuclear watchdog chief, Rafael Grossi. He's traveled to Tehran for talks to be held today. Grossi's saying it's like a puzzle. they have the pieces and one day they could eventually put

Starting point is 02:41:48 them together. Oh it's like Minecraft. The UN watchdog tasked with overseeing Iran's nuclear program and its compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal which they were collapsed of course three years later when the United States withdrew from it during President Donald Trump's first term. Western countries, including the US, have long accused Iran of seeking to acquire nuclear weapons and allegation Tehran has consistently denied, insisting its program is for peaceful civilian purposes. Welcome across live then to our correspondent, Syed Azimi,

Starting point is 02:42:17 who joins us now from Tehran. Say, Gracie, then, warning once again, really, of just how close Iran could be to developing a nuclear bomb? Oh well yes Stuart, that was the message that we received from Rafal Grossi loud and clear. Last night when he arrived in Tehran he met Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi in a meeting that he described as timely and important. Rafal Grossi is in Tehran for two days. So due to the busy schedule that

Starting point is 02:42:48 the Iranian foreign minister had, because the Iranian foreign minister is right now on route on route to Moscow to meet Russia's Vladimir Putin. So the IAEA director general, Rafat Ghosi, met the Iranian foreign minister last night upon his arrival in Tehran to make sure that the sense of diplomacy in Tehran is urgent and credible assurances according to Rafal Gossy in his post on X is given to him to ensure the peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program. So, a very interesting development and President Trump announced this while the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was sitting in the Oval Office with him. He's like, no, you know, we're going to talk to Iran and I guess we're talking to Russia and Iran and

Starting point is 02:43:34 Russia are talking together. Maybe they'll have Russia oversee stuff and well. They're all coordinating their messages and Netanyahu is out of the picture. He's out. And tell us more. But although according to half of our listeners, you know, he's running everything. their messages and Netanyahu's out of the picture. Out. He's out. Tell us more. But although according to half of our listeners, you know, he's running everything. He's running the show.

Starting point is 02:43:49 He's running the show. Tell us more. He's out. Listen, I keep trying to get to this clip. Tell us more about the situation regarding Iran and its nuclear program. Good evening, Mark. Yes, there's been quite a bit of news. The first thing we heard today, which was itself quite shocking from the Guardian newspaper,

Starting point is 02:44:09 is that the United States offered Iran a sort of exchange deal, some sort of peace agreement or the lifting of sanctions. If Iran agreed to dispatch its uranium, its nuclear material, out of Iran to a third country. The nation being mentioned was Russia. But we heard this in the context of Iran not being interested even in that sort of an offer. Obviously the news of this sort of an American alliance with Russia coming upon the US. You know, acquiescence of Russian efforts in Europe, in Ukraine, also caused reverberations here in the Middle East.

Starting point is 02:44:53 And subsequently, news came of Donald Trump's envoy, Steve Witkoff, saying that in fact, the United States is not interested in dismantling Iran's nuclear program. The exact thing that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had demanded in his White House meeting with Donald Trump just a few days ago, Steve Wittkopf said, no, we just don't want them to have a bomb. He said the president says, we don't want them to have a bomb, so we don't want them to have a bomb. And the Iranians, despite evidence to the contrary, have always claimed, as

Starting point is 02:45:26 you said, that they have just a civilian program. This is a very interesting development considering that, you know, the last administration that tried to do a deal with Iran was kind of along the same lines, just don't make a bomb. We know you're only two weeks away. Don't make a bomb. And they keep showing. Perpetually two weeks away. Yes, and they keep showing the aluminum tubes over and over again.

Starting point is 02:45:57 Yeah, they have the same B-roll. Yeah, some psychological effect, I'm sure. Well, that brings us to Gaza, which is part of this deal somehow. I have the Gaza Israel update. Hamas is rejecting new Israeli ceasefire in Gaza. The proposal calls for disarming the militant group as a condition for ending the war. NPR's Daniel Estrin has more from Tel Aviv. The new Israeli proposal is to pause the war in Gaza for a month and a half, free about

Starting point is 02:46:22 half of Hamas's living Israeli hostages within the first week, and negotiate the disarmament of militant groups. A Hamas official tells NPR the group rejects the proposal. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because Hamas was still preparing a formal response to mediators. But in a statement, Hamas and other Palestinian groups said their weapons were for self-defense. They said the ceasefire proposal did not include guarantees to end the war and withdraw Israeli troops from Gaza.

Starting point is 02:46:50 Israel's defense minister says Israel is changing tactics and won't withdraw troops from areas they capture in Gaza. Well, that brings us to the Governor Shapiro story, which we looked at that on the last show and said, hmm, that has FBI written all over it. Now I'm not so sure. Tonight, this is the suspect police are calling a domestic terrorist. They say Cody Bomber scaled a fence and firebombed Governor Josh Shapiro's residence while the governor and his family were sleeping upstairs.

Starting point is 02:47:25 These images show the damage from two Molotov cocktails made from beer bottles and gasoline that prosecutors say Ballmer took from his lawnmower. The piano room and part of the dining room destroyed, chairs and tables charred, other objects melted. In the same spot hours earlier, the Shapiro's celebrating the first night of Passover. Lori and I are overwhelmed by the prayers and the messages of support that we've received from all across Pennsylvania and all across the United States. A senior law enforcement official tells ABC News authorities are investigating whether this attack could have been motivated by the governor's Jewish faith. Shapiro and his family were gathered

Starting point is 02:48:08 Saturday evening with two dozen others. He shared this photo of his Seder plate. Hours later state troopers banging on the door to get everyone out. Chief, had the door not been closed, could the fire have spread further and deeper inside the mansion putting the governor and his family at risk? If that door wasn't closed, the fire would have spread and would have definitely put the governor at even greater risk. What'd you say? How? How? What's the door got to do with anything? The windows were broken. I don't know. That's just, that's for the story.

Starting point is 02:48:40 What are you up for? And by the way, it wasn't, no, we didn't think the FBI had anything to do with that. We thought the FBI, and I still think so, had something to do with that maniac kid who killed his two parents and was caught in Kansas. He was going to go drone Trump. I'm sorry, you're right. Wrong story. And the FBI has backed off of that story because I don't, I think they were behind like he was messaging Ukraine, he was going to get a job there right no you're right and I think the FBI backed

Starting point is 02:49:08 off of it completely not taking it no don't talk about it because I don't think it was intended that he was gonna kill his parents no and then what happened is they're like oh what are we gonna do ah let's have this guy fire bomb Shapiro this is the part of the fence the suspect reached to make his way inside the governor's residence where he set the fire with an incendiary device. Investigators cut away this part of the fence so they could do DNA testing. Today the governor surveyed the damage. Police say Bomber fled the scene and later turned himself in. Authorities say the 38 year old mechanic had a plan, walking for approximately one hour from his residence to the governor's residence, allegedly while harboring hatred towards Governor Shapiro. Asked by police what he would have done if the governor found him inside, Ballmer allegedly

Starting point is 02:49:53 replied, would have beaten him with his hammer. In the Oval Office, President Trump on the incident today. Ah, not me. The attacker was not a fan of Trump I understand just from what I read and from what I've been told. The attacker basically wasn't a fan of anybody's probably just a whack job and certainly a thing like that cannot be allowed to happen. No we know what it was really about. Tonight state police say the man accused of firebombing the Pennsylvania governor's mansion on the first night of

Starting point is 02:50:21 Passover called them, confessed and said he did it because of Governor Josh Shapiro's support for Israel in its war against Hamas. A newly released search warrant application said Cody Balmer called 911 less than an hour after the arson attack, identifying himself by name and telling the operator, Governor Josh Shapiro needs to know that he will not take part in his plans for what he wants to do to the Palestinian people The document said bomber went on to say he needs to stop having my friends killed our people have been put through too much By that monster and you know where to find me

Starting point is 02:50:55 I'm not hiding and I will confess to everything that I've done. Yeah, sadly not the last of these attacks We're going to see it. Sadly, so we don't have a tape of this bull crap. I'm sure I didn't see any of it. Well, are you questioning the authorities? Geez. I bet he did say that. I don't know. Maybe if he did or didn't, it doesn't matter because he obviously did it. Or obviously, I don't know that either, to be honest about it.

Starting point is 02:51:23 But the fact is, the guy a, I think Trump had it. He's a whack job. Yeah. Wack job. I guess since we're international, I guess some unusual clips about Ecuador. Five minute warning. Well, this will be it then. I got two clips from Ecuador.

Starting point is 02:51:39 Here we go. Ecuador is famous for its beaches and its capital city, Quito, high in the foothills of the Andes, but in the past few years, Ecuador has been dragged into a brutal international drug war, resulting in one of the highest homicide rates in Latin America. That has helped make tomorrow's elections one of the country's most important in years. NPR's Keri Khan joins us from Ecuador. Hey, Keri. Keri Khan, NPR's Keri Khan, The New York Times, The New York Times, and The New York Times.

Starting point is 02:52:04 Hi. Hi. So, let's start with this, where are you and what is the mood like there? Kari Khan. I'm in Guayaquil. It's the biggest city in Ecuador. It's also its economic center here. Unfortunately, this port city and surrounding towns have become the most dangerous and deadly. As for the mood, I'd say people are discarded and anxious for this election to come to an end. They're exhausted from the violence that's engulfed the country in recent years. And actually, in recent months, January and February of this year have been the most violent ever recorded, with a homicide every hour being reported. Wow. Can you just contextualize that for us a little more? Why has this violence erupted

Starting point is 02:52:42 so quickly? First, it's been several years of gang violence here, with the last few increasingly brutal as gangs splinter and fight for territory. Ecuador, in the geography, is sandwiched between Colombia and Peru. Those are the biggest cocaine producers in the world. And Ecuador brings a lot of other advantages besides geography. It's a dollar economy. Money laundering is easier here.

Starting point is 02:53:05 Its visa laws had always been lax, and that allowed a lot of foreigners to easily come in and corruption is widespread. It has extensive ports and a long Pacific coastline lending great access to routes to the US and also to Europe, which has seen a surge in cocaine use. Currently, there are Mexican, Colombian, and even Albanian cartels operating here and of course together with the Ecuador Ecuador's local gangs which have proliferated as the economy has stalled out here too. You know what those people need John? They need stable coin. That's what they need. So what is the Europeans using coke? Oh, Coke is big in Holland too.

Starting point is 02:53:46 How did that happen? It's been that way for a while. I mean, the Port of Rotterdam is probably one of the biggest entry points for Coke to get all throughout Europe. You know, the good old macro mafia is running it, a lot of it here. Yeah. Oh no., and just cheap. Everybody's like, oh, I got some coke. Yeah, want some coke. Yeah, coke. Funny enough, didn't get any offered at the party. No, you're a chumper. You turn him in, you're a narc. So that is the context

Starting point is 02:54:18 for this election, which is a runoff. The winner will be president for the next four years. Tell us about the two candidates. Danielle Pletka Right. The race is a repeat of the 2023 snap elections and the current president, who won those, has been in power for only 16 months. He's 37-year-old Daniel Noboa. He's the son of the richest man here in Ecuador. The family business is Bananas, one of Ecuador's largest exports. Noboa is a close ally of President Trump and he's pro-business, he's pro-free trade.

Starting point is 02:54:47 His opponent, again, is a leftist former lawmaker and lawyer, Luisa Gonzalez. She's 47 and is a very close ally of the former firebrand leftist president, Rafael Correa, who ruled Ecuador for 10 years. He's in self-imposed exile after being convicted of corruption, but he still has a lot of sway and a loyal base here. Mad Fientist- Is it fair to say that the crime and violence are the big issue for voters given all of this? KK- Yes, it is the issue.

Starting point is 02:55:16 It seems as if everyone has been hit by the crime wave here. But you also hear a lot about former president Correa still too. He's been out of power for nearly 10 years, so it's kind of crazy to hear so much about him, but there is a lot of polarization. His supporters look fondly on his rule. They tend to gloss over his corruption charges. His detractors blame him for much of the current economic and security crisis now. And like Correa, they say Gonzales will bring socialism to Ecuador. Both candidates, though, say they will keep relying on the military for fighting the drug gangs. President Noboa has declared a state of emergency and declared he is fighting an internal war

Starting point is 02:55:53 against terrorists. He's asked Trump personally for US military system and even to put a base here. Gonzalez says that's a violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty, and she says she'll put more money into social programs and in hard-hit communities. Oh, there you go. You know, Rubio, Rubio to Ecuador. Gotta get a base in there, get your people some stable coin. Yeah, that's what I think.

Starting point is 02:56:15 I said it before, the reason you pick Rubio is because he speaks, he's fluent in Spanish. He's going to South America, he's doing deals down there. He's already straightened out the Panama thing we think. I mean, you can't really know what the hell's going on. Yeah, this is perfect for him. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

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Starting point is 03:08:19 Uh oh. This is the Tip of the Day. Wow, okay. It is the ScamGram Consumer Actions Monthly Email. It's actually entertaining. I get it and I read it and it's interesting. Okay, the Scamgram? Scamgram.

Starting point is 03:08:36 You go to consumer-action.org, click the box that says Scamgram, and then sign up. What do you get? You get a newsletter once a month that tells you all these crazy scams. Well, give me an example of a scam. I can just open one of the newsletters. Yeah, I mean, what kind of tip is this?

Starting point is 03:08:59 The tip is to get, that's the tip. It could be forwarding to a Dvorak's Oasis substack for all we know. There's a tip of the day. Give us one of these scam tips from the newsletter. Do you have it in front of you? I just opened it. Okay. I'm just going to take a random scam and read it.

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Starting point is 03:11:57 in Amsterdam Schiphol, the Netherlands. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll see you on Sunday. Till then, adios, mofos, a hooey hooey, and such. By any decent standard, they ought not to be. Perhaps you'd better, perhaps you'd better, perhaps you'd better stop from the beginning.

Starting point is 03:12:19 Stop. Three, four. We're going to have to work the dark side while we're gonna spend time in the shadows. From the beginning. We are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy to get people actually to love their son, to love their son, to love their son, and to enjoy a state of affairs which,

Starting point is 03:12:50 by any decent standard, they ought not to enjoy. Too many kids are what's making the planet worse. A lot of these kids come from bad gene pools. They don't have stable parents making good decisions. Mercury fly. For a while the government had the right under US law to conduct secret testing on the American public under a specific condition. Mercury fly. Mercury fly.

Starting point is 03:13:17 Mercury fly. Mercury fly. Mercury fly. Any attempt to achieve world order must be the work of the devil. Well, join me. I'm glad to sit here, for my hand is safe, for my hand is safe. The new world, the new world, the new world. Sunday.

Starting point is 03:13:36 And, all right, everybody, we're going for chaos. Yes, donors around the world have noticed that. I'm curious why you noticed it. On the media. The dark forces of Satan, obviously. The sour stench of chaos in the air oh yes stench of chaos it's a good way it's just all chaos and corruption it was chaos and confusion we're going for chaos everybody is it good we're going for chaos everybody. Is it good we're going for chaos?

Starting point is 03:14:07 Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government. This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal government. Chaos. Maybe the kid went to Coachella and saw that Lady Gaga show. Holy mackerel. No one cares anymore. Trump is a virus. I always say tariffs is the most beautiful word to me in the dictionary. They said, what about love, religion, and God? I said, I agree.

Starting point is 03:14:35 Let's put God number one. Let's put religion number two. Love, I don't know. let's put religion number two love I don't know we gotta put that number three I guess right And then it's tariff. And then it's tariff. Tariff. And then it's tariff. Tariff. And then it's tariff. And then it's tariff. Tariff. God number one. Religion number two.

Starting point is 03:15:10 Love, I don't know, we gotta put that number three I guess, right? Religion number two. Love, I don't know, we gotta put that number three, I guess, right? And then it's Tarif. The best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash NA. This is making me oddly happy and satisfied.

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