No Agenda - 1770 - "Control Grid"

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

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Subjugation! Destruction! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 5th, 2025. This is your award-winning Give One Nation Media assassination episode 1770. This is No Agenda. No mo-bromance and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it looks like it's warming up, I'm John C. DeVorek. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Wow, completely inspired. Yeah, it was all, I was, I didn't think anything. Nothing to say. That's what I mean, completely inspired.

Oh, it's a show, okay, it's warming up. Show day, weather Oh, it's a show. Okay. It's warm This is slow windy I could warm it up warm it up warm it up not much going on man Trump is so smart Now what he's got it. He's perfect people are so dense Everybody's in a tizzy. Elon, Elon is mad at the big, big, beautiful bill. Elon is mad. It can be big, it can be beautiful, but it can't be both.

And well, he went even further. He's posting his disgusting and President Trump is taking questions right now with Mr. Peepers in the Oval saying, I'm very, very, very. He's still going. No, that can't still be going on. With Peepers? As we saying I'm very very good still going no that can't still be going on with peepers as We speak you have your monitors up there. I have no talking no The quad is the quad is everyone's showing President Trump saying I'm very disappointed in Elon How stupid can everybody be in a blistering ten-high rate on X, Elon Musk torched President Trump's signature spending plan known as the-

That's news for you. That's ABC News. Torch. You took a torch to it. And by the way, that is also a teaser for Tip of the Day. Oh. Torched President Trump's signature spending plan known as the big, beautiful bill, calling it a disgusting abomination and accused lawmakers of passing a massive outrageous pork-filled bill that will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit. The president already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill it doesn't change the president's opinion. Musk's criticism widens a public rift with the

Trump administration and its allies. With all due respect, my friend Elon is terribly wrong. The bill could have a major impact on Elon Musk's businesses. It would phase out tax credits for electric vehicles, possibly impacting the bottom line at Tesla, and it would regulate artificial intelligence. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who voted for the bill in the House last month, now says she did not realize the bill includes a 10-year federal ban on states regulating AI. Greene posting, I am adamantly opposed to this and it is a violation of state rights and I would have voted no if I had known this was in there.

So there's a lot here in this one-minute report. First of all, Marjorie Taylor Gre Green is not read in and she is very afraid because Elon Musk has said, I'm going to pull out my wallet. I'm going to primary anybody who voted for this disgusting thing. Well, it's no real surprise that this has happened. We've seen various tensions between the two. They tried to play happy families as Musk exited the White House last week. But he has been a staunch opponent of this.

We found that out on a on just recently on Sunday, actually, and in an interview with CBS News will now this, though, is his most daring tweet about this beautiful, beautiful causes. Musk tweeting, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive outrageous pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it's now he also doubled down on this in the hours that followed. He then tweeted in November next year, I the midterms, we

fire all politicians who betrayed the American people. Congress is making America bankrupt. Now, the White House Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt, was asked about this at the press briefing today. And she said, look, the president already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill. It doesn't change the president's opinion. This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's sticking to it. Well, indeed, the White House is standing by that bill, saying it will reduce government spending, but the man they put in charge of cutting government spending, Elon Musk, clearly disagrees.

So this is like a triple, a triple thing that's going on here. Not for a second do I believe the bromance is over. First of all, Elon, he needs to get back to his business. He needs to show everybody that that well, you know, like I'm really not all for this. You can come back and buy my cars That's one. Two, we got to smoke out all the traders We got to smoke them out the people who are just flip-floppy wishy-washy Like Marjorie Taylor Greene who apparently didn't even read the bill.

That's fantastic. If I knew that was in there I wouldn't have voted for it. What are you voting for then? Thomas Massey, Rand and what's the Ron Johnson. They're all like oh yeah no no this is no good and they're even publicly saying, we want Elon to fund primary challengers. And it's bringing out all kinds of right-wing publications talking about these, you know, about the turncoats. So it's one, get Elon back to work. Two, smoke out the people who are not on the president's team, and three, it's guaranteed to pass now.

No one's going to go against Elon Musk. They're not going to jump in with him all of a sudden. No, you can't like just turn around and say, oh, I love Elon. Well, not after that fiasco in Wisconsin. Oh, the cheesehead thing? No, when he put tons of money behind that judge who lost. Yeah, that's when he had the cheese on his head. Oh, you put a cheese head on? Yeah.

I have one of those. Of course. They fall apart after a while. They disintegrate. I don't know what it's made out of, but it's just one of those things that oxidizes and starts crumbling. It becomes a disaster. Yes, so this is an obvious gambit.

It's so clear, but everybody, oh, you know, this is about Elon's business. He doesn't like it because of his business. What, because he's not gonna get SpaceX deals? Please. Because of the phase out of the subsidy on electric vehicles, please. And it gives the M5M all kinds of reasons to speculate and

yeah, we knew this would end, it's all over, yeah, they don't even know how to break up these boys. The president has remained uncharacteristically quiet as Elon Musk continues to attack this bill. Attack! It's obviously kind of a, I don't know if it's a tricky situation for both of them, but what do you make of his silence? This, by the way, I think is the guy who wrote the article, which he's been doing the rounds everywhere.

All of a sudden, Mark Caputo, Scoop, Scoop! This is on Axios. Scoop, colon. Four reasons Musk on Axios. Scoop! Colon. Four reasons Musk attacked Trump's big beautiful bill. Here are the four reasons. The legislation cuts the electric vehicle tax that helps car makers like Musk Tesla. Which really phases out over many years.

Two. Musk was working at the White House as what's called a special government employee. He discussed trying to stay beyond the 138 time limit. He's pissed about that. Three, Musk wanted the Federal Aviation Administration to use his Starlink satellite system for national air traffic control, but it's not happening. The administration balked and the final straw happening. The administration balked and the final straw appeared to come Saturday night when Trump abruptly announced he was withdrawing the nomination of Jared Isaksman, a Musk ally, to be NASA administrator. Yeah, that's the reason. And this guy is everywhere. Set up. Obvious. Yeah, I think it is a tricky situation for both of them. Elon Musk is

the richest guy in the world. He owns the most important social media platform. No disrespect to true social and he's very popular with a big segment of Trump's coalition including a lot of people in Congress and meanwhile Trump is very popular with a lot of people like Elon Musk. It's sort of like that old expression where you ride a tiger until you have to get off, and that's when the tiger eats you. These guys have been sort of taking turns riding each other's fame and cults of personality, and they just don't know how to break up.

And it creates real political problems for both of them, and it's kind of fascinating to watch. How does it create political problems for Elon Musk? He doesn't have a political career. You have new reporting about why, about more personal reasons why Musk may be unhappy with the president including the White House withdrawing the nomination of a Musk ally to head NASA, the FAA balking and using the Starlink for national air traffic control and and you know what maybe unhappy about tax credits for electric vehicles being cut by the bill which is on the other speaker Johnson mentioned yesterday. You broke this story was a big scoop.

You also report Musk actually wanted to remain a special government employee past the legal 130 day limit and this was after he gifted was gifted that golden key. Donald Trump does like Elon Musk. Now he's kind of annoyed, not really happy, with Musk teeing off on the legislation the way he has, and there's a whole bunch of discussion to be had about that. But in the end, he respects Elon Musk, he likes Elon Musk, and that's partly informing this very rare impulse control

from President Trump. The other thing I'm told by White House... Yeah, all of a sudden President Trump has impulse control. It's amazing what could possibly be going on. Officials, is that Trump doesn't really want to feed this anymore. They don't want to give more oxygen to Elon Musk. These are my words, not theirs, but I can tell that there's sort of a hope that Musk will sort of punch himself out.

However, as you've seen from Musk's personal life where he's had a number of nasty breakups, his breakups and the end of his relationships with people sometimes end in a rather acrimonious way. And we're seeing a little sign of that here with the president, at least one way from Musk to president Trump. Chum is in the water and the minnows are all over it, especially on the right.

It's amazing. How can people not, do you not know Trump's algorithm by now? Have you not figured it out? It's just, it's baffling to me. Have you not figured it out? It's just, it's baffling to me. And on, right on cue in the troll room, yeah, this is all to cover up the Palantir news. Well, I'm glad you brought that up troll Matthew. Yes, we have a note.

We do. We have a boots on the ground from an insider at Palantir. I haven't asked. What was the Palantir news? It was just a rumor, wasn't it? Just a gossipy thing? No, no, no, no. Trump is going to use Palantir to create a profile of every American and then he's going to do something with it.

Where was that released as news? Oh, I had a guess last time in the show. No, so hold on a second. I'll look up for you. We didn't even get to it because I knew right away. It's like, all right, Palantir. Um, here we go. New York times. Would that make sense that our very own trolls fall for that?

Uh, Alex Carpco here at headline Palantir to compile data on Americans. Alex Carpco founder, chief executive of Palantir at compile data on Americans. Alex Karp, co-founder, chief executive of Palantir, out of Forum in Washington in April. Trump has not publicly talked about the effort, but behind the scenes officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable- This is not a new story. This is a speculative story. Well, it's based upon what this Alex Karp said at this forum in Washington. And the Trump administration has expanded Palantir's work across the federal government

in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government. That's bad contract, by the way. You got to be at least a bill. Since Mr. Trump took office, according to public records, including additional funds from existing contracts, as well as new contracts for the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon. So the push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including DHS, Health and Human Services Department, widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies.

Imagine that. Wow. You mean like the DMV from Washington States talking to the DMV from California so they could find out you're a drunk. Imagine that. So we have, we got a boots on the ground from an insider from Palantir, his credentials check out and of course he's been asked, he's asked us to keep him his identity anonymous and his work history, which is interesting. Yeah, yes, that can go with that.

Yes, that would be a giveaway. I was recruited by Palantir to help stand up its AML platform, that's Anti-Money Laundering Platform. Platforms like this use machine learning models to confirm identity and detect suspicious transaction activity. To do this, they use mountains of data from various clearing houses and data from other clients. Late in the interview cycle, I requested to speak with the head of product.

I asked him how they source their seed data for machine language training. He informed me they had no data. Part of my job is to get agreements in place with tier one banks to source that data so they can begin training models. Based on this, I declined the job. People like Whitney Webb would have you believe Palantir scraping all of our data for Masad. There it is. That's the best part of the note.

That's the best line. If that were the case, Palantir would have more than enough data to train their AML models. They have exactly zero data in-house, meaning she's full of crap. What Palantir actually does is provide the platform for organizations to perform machine learning training off their own data. This is exactly what Trump wants Palantir to do for the various executive agencies. I get the arguments why this could be bad, but there are very real reasons why this is a great thing. Medicaid paid Thomson Reuters $5 million for the Social Security Administration death master file data. Yes, the government paid $5 million to a Canadian

company for its own data. This is only one example that I am directly familiar with, but I'm sure there are dozens. The government's data infrastructure is an ungodly mess and if we can fix it with Palantir, it could help eliminate Social Security and tax fraud and speed up every government service. And that makes sense. That's what Doge was doing. Connecting databases, connecting data sources. I also see this as a good thing. I do too. I'm, you know, but oh no. Yeah, this is it. This is exactly it. It's the Whitney Webb thing. But oh no, yeah, this is it. This is exactly it.

It's the Whitney Webb thing. Yeah, Whitney Webb. And it's not just Whitney Webb. I wasn't even planning on rolling this out this early. It is also Katherine Austin Fitz. Because you know how many, I went back and looked, do you know how many times we have either discussed or talked about Katherine Austin Fitz on the podcast?

I do not know, but I do. Her name does ring a bell. It's almost close to a hundred times. No. Yes, go to bingit.io in the past 17 and a half years. It's really, it's quite... She sneaks in a lot. She does sneak in a lot. And we just noticed it now. No. We need Palantir. She sneaks in a lot. She does sneak in a lot. And we just noticed it now. No!

We need Palantir. But she was on the Danny Jones podcast. Let's just pretend we know who Danny Jones is, but he's got views. You know, when we promise ourselves we do more with the alternative media. Now the question is, Trump is big on Bitcoin. Now listen to how she answers without even mentioning Bitcoin at all and what she immediately states as fact.

So Trump has been super, this current administration, this new administration, or at least when Trump was running, he was very pro-Bitcoin. Trump was put in by the bankers to get the control grid. The other team in the Unipar team wasn't moving fast enough. They couldn't get the control grid. Wait, wait, wait. I didn't understand what she said.

She said he was put into the bankers, blah, blah, blah. I couldn't understand what she said. What did she say? She speaks quite eloquently. I'll repeat it and I'll play it again. Trump was put in by the bankers to put in the control grid. This, by the way, she was in the housing administration, I think. She was reasonably senior within the US government.

And her whole thing has been control grid, Mr. Globalist, I don't know who that is, but they've stolen all our money. Okay, well, yeah, duh, all the money's been stolen. But it's all about the control grid. Everything, Palantir, she's like the adult Whitney Webb. Trump was put in by the bankers to get the control grid. The other team in the Uniparo wasn't moving fast enough. They couldn't get the control grid.

I knew it. I've never, I say it like we just did a new collection of all the things Trump is doing to move the control grid. He is moving very, very fast. When it comes to building. Hold on a second. So yeah, Richard Johnson, troll. We didn't say Trump combining all the info the government has on Americans into a big

database is a good thing. We didn't say that. When Elon Musk was connecting all the databases, everyone loved it. Think with your head, man. First, he's getting the real ID implemented, very aggressively. Real ID. To do a control grid, you need a very high quality, precision national ID.

Yeah, that's what that little star on my driver's license is, is a very high quality, high precision national ID. It's been going on for decades, decades, this thing. Way pre-Trump. Interoperable with all the other IDs around the world, and he's got Christy no I'm out there pushing the real idea like there's no tomorrow. I agree. I haven't heard her say shit about Yeah, we even played a clip of her talking about it. Yeah, we did

Okay. Yeah. In fact, let me make sure I'm real ID Gnome Yeah, here it is. Hi, I'm Kristi Noam, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity. Get a real ID. Starting May 7th, you will need a real ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States She's definitely pushing it like no one else's business

But to me it's just a big distraction from the obvious facial recognition that's going on at every airport Don't need a real ID for that They're just taking my image. Don't worry. We'll delete it. We'll delete it within 24 hours. It won't delete anything. Real ID implemented, very aggressively. Real ID, to do a control grid, you need a very high quality, precision national ID that's interoperable with all the other IDs around the world. And he's got Christie Gnome out there pushing the real ID like there's no tomorrow. I don't know how it's interoperable. Is there a real ID database I'm unaware of that every single country has tapped into?

No. So they're working and it's done through the states, but the feds are pushing it. So the first thing you need is a digital ID. The second thing you need is an all digital financial system. So you got to kill cash and you got to make everybody interact digitally. And if you look at what he's doing with taxes and social security, he's trying to make everybody interact digitally and if you look at what he's doing with taxes and Social Security's trying to make everybody You know he's canceled pennies, but he's also canceled now You know normally I pay my taxes with paper and now he's saying no you got to do everything digital

For it's not this year, but the next year really so he's wrong if you go through that list. I've got like oh my gosh John you and I do you even send a check? I still send checks to the IRS. Do you send a check or do you do it online? You don't do it at all. Mimi does it, but let's just pretend we know. It's... We actually have to, because we had our identity stolen like a number of years ago,

Mimi actually has to go in. In person? In person to the IRS and hand them a check. Wow. Well, she better bring her real ID. She won't get in the office. But wait, Katherine Austin Fitz is about to bring in my favorite topic. Really?

So he's trying to, if you go through that list, I've got like, you know, 50 different items of what he's doing. And if you- I would love to see the list of 50 different items of what he's doing. I would like to see, you know, she's got that nervous, that tick, nervous tick, that voice of hers is enough to make you not believe a word she says. Even though she, she's very smart. She sees a lot of things correctly,

but this, you know, like Trump was brought in by the bankers to get the control grid in place. Okay. Brilliant. So he's trying to, if you go through that list, I've got like, you know, 50 different items of what he's doing. Where's the list, yeah.

And if you look at what they're doing with the Genius Act and Stablecoin, he said no CBDCs, but. My favorite topic, the Genius Act and Stablecoin, he said no CBDCs but- My favorite topic, the Genius Act and Stablecoin. Stablecoin, so I don't know if you've read the Genius Act, which is the new plan for stablecoins. Okay. A CBDC is issued, would be issued by the Federal Reserve. So presumably the New York Fed and the Fed member banks.

Okay. Now, they are owned by their members. So Citibank, JP Morgan Chase, they own as members, they own the New York Fed and basically govern it. And the New York Fed is the depository for the treasury and the different banks work as agent to do those transactions. Okay? Okay.

So now in the Genius Act, what they're saying is the guys who own the New York Fed are all going to create subsidiaries and issue stablecoin, which will be interoperable and can work with a social credit system. So she just throws that out there. It'll interrupt with a social credit system, which I guess is being built by Palantir Based upon all of the information and your real ID Yeah, you know You're making that up

This last last clip which is short She actually explains perfectly what the stable coin gambit is and she has this so right but to me it completely detracts from her whole conspiracy mind because if she'd answered the question which is about Bitcoin which never comes up again that's the antithesis of a stablecoin but okay. What they're planning to do on stablecoin which I have to say is a financial matter, is quite clever. Remember the pallets of cash you sent to Iraq?

Oh, yeah. Okay. This is going to be the digital equivalent of the pallets of cash sent to Iraq because See, this doesn't even make sense. So the pallets of cash sent to Iraq, stablecoin is going to be the digital equivalent of that. Oh, because it's so anonymous? Because we don't know who holds that pallets of cash. We don't know exactly who's pocket that's in, but for some unknown reason now,

the stable coin is going to be just like anonymous cash, which of course she said it's not going to be. Okay. Okay? Okay. This is gonna be the digital equivalent of the pallets of cash sent to Iraq because what they want to do with stable coins So a stable coin is just a bank deposit or a Treasury bill or bond So it's fully collateralized by a dollar you put a dollar in and and these stable coins are gonna I mean you have some stable coins that do gold or other things

But these are gonna be gold or other things, but these are going to be... Gold or other things. Bitcoin is already backing stable coin, but let's just gloss over that. Dollar. And this is going to create a huge market for the treasury bills and bonds. Yes. And the bank subsidiaries will create the stable coins, so it will be fully collateralized in treasury bonds or bills. But then you can send them out on Google Payment and and Apple payment and all the wallets around the world.

And literally you can get people from Bolivia to South Korea coming into your state and using stable coins. So you're literally going to tend for the global population, try and get everybody off of their local currency and the stable coins and you're going to pump out massive amounts of private credit to make it really attractive. So you're just going to hand out money and get everybody on the dollar. Yes! Exactly! Is that a bad thing? It's being the world-reserved currency without being the world-reserved currency.

I know it's a big concept for people, It's being the world-reserved currency without being the world-reserved currency. I know it's a big concept for people, but this whole idea of control grid, but then all of a sudden it's like pallets of cash. No, no, no, no, no, no. This stablecoin thing has got real legs and I think it is genius. And there's already 400 million people in the world who use stablecoin, almost none of them in the United States. Because you can use your Venmo, you can use your PayPal, you can use all that. It's not intended for us. But okay. So just like calm down everybody the control grid Palantir Peter teal Elon Musk. Oh, no

What are we going to do? As if the control grid wasn't already here On your phone The foot in the drawer yeah You are the only one they can't find. Where's this Devorak character? We can find family members all over the country from South Dakota to Washington,

but we can't find the kingpin. Where is he? No. So calm down everybody. The best thing about the big beautiful bill is the extension of the tax cuts and you want that. You want that. And what is it going to add?

It's going to potentially add 270 billion dollars a year to our already out of control deficit. Well, that's debatable. If it's that much or if it's more than that? No, it's that much but it's debatable whether we really add to it or not. Well, no, the whole idea is we're going to outgrow the deficit. Yeah, we're going to get a lot of cash, which I think doesn't that directly impact the deficit if we get a lot of cash?

We get a lot of tariff money, yes. Tariff money, yeah. Well, also with the stablecoin, the way I understand it, you can get the stablecoin at par to the dollar, one for one, if you deal with us. If you don't deal with us, you get it for 95 cents. I mean, this has Trump's fingerprints all over it. He is much more of a meta guy than people understand. He just comes across as a doofus. And I think he's got it by the right end this time.

If not, well, whatever, we'll have another guy in three years. We'll see what happens then. But all of this stuff that's going on, it's sending our people, our people, into a tizzy. Our people have been in a tizzy for a while. I'm trying to calm them down. It's going to be okay. You can't. I think it's out of control. You can't fight it.

I want to fight it. You know, you're spending too much time fighting it. You want to hear... Spend more time mocking it. Well, I don't want to mock our own people. You have to hear... Spend more time mocking it. Well, I don't want to mock our own people. Well, you have to. No, no, I don't think that's necessary. I am here to help spin...

Uh-oh. To help spin down my people. I'm sorry. Have to do this. At the tone, a clip from The View will be played. Shelter in place. Elon Musk basically could tank Donald Trump's entire legislative agenda. This big, beautiful bill, it has energy, it has border security, it has extending his tax cuts in it.

If Republicans decide, ooh, we don't want to get on the wrong side of Elon, that is what Donald Trump is banking it all on. And that's kind of devastating for his administration. On the flip side, those Republicans, if you're in a house district, you're like, I'm afraid of Donald Trump. But Elon Musk, because of the dark money system we live in, he can come in and primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. We know it doesn't necessarily work, because we just saw it. Thank you for reminding us.

We saw that in Wisconsin. So what are you talking about? He can come in and- It had just the opposite effect as a matter of fact. I would say so. I believe it had, I believe they got wind of it and it had the opposite effect of the desired effect. Primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. And then there is that, that, you know, if one was going to think, you know,

Ooh, maybe this happened. You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything. Yeah. He got all that information. He knows. He's literally sitting at Twitter looking at everybody's everything. Yeah, he got all that information. He knows how. He's literally sitting at Twitter looking at everybody's information. Yeah, I see what you're doing. I see what you're looking at. Did she say 4111 on everybody?

Oh yeah, the 4111 baby. That's how all the kids are talking. 10 years ago. Well, she better guard her six. Ooh, maybe this happened. You know, Elon knows the 4111 on everything. Yeah, he got all that information. I think you can say that that's like, Ooh, maybe this happened. You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything. Yeah, he got all that information.

I think you can say that you can turn like a code switch. Like, Elon knows the 411 on everything. Everything. This happened. You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything. Everything. He got all that information. He knows how all this came down.

Damn down. So now he's like, Harumph! Harumph! So Trump should be afraid of him. I think Trump is afraid of him. He has ill receipts on the election too. I think he is afraid of him. Well, $20 million he spent alone in that Wisconsin Supreme Court race.

So imagine he would just need to peel off a handful of Republicans this cycle. The entire balance of power in the House of Representatives could stand on if Elon Musk actually follows through in primaries, people who vote for him. But the votes to peel off are there because the party is divided on what it wants. But hasn't this damaged Elon Musk's reputation, his reputation? Tesla's, you can't even sell them anymore. You can't even get rid of them. People aren't buying them.

They're burning them. They're burning them. They're burning them. Did you them. They're burning them. They're burning them. They're burning them. Did you hear? They're burning them. They're burning them. Yes, they're burning them. I'll tell you something else.

It dawned on me. It was not hard because it kept hitting me in the face like a wet salmon. There will be no peace in Ukraine until after the big NATO summit. Because it is so obvious now that, and I, and I would say that President Trump and President Putin are both in this. What? Do you get hit in the face by a wet salmon a lot? Have you ever, I grew up in Holland, man. I think it's a Dutch expression actually.

I think that's where it comes from. But thanks for interrupting my flow. I'm sorry, but you got me jammed with that one. It's just like when you get hit in the face with a wet salmon. What? That never happened to me. Well, you've never lived in Holland. I think that President Trump, President Putin, they are definitely playing together.

And everyone's jumping in on it. The Germans, the Brits, the Brits. Oh, hold on a second. I got to play this from the Brits first. Listen to Keir Starmer. It's a plan to reverse decades of post-Cold War British military decline and to send a message to Moscow after its invasion of Ukraine. I've said we are moving to war fighting readiness. When we are being directly threatened by states with advanced military forces,

the most effective way to deter them is to be ready. And we got to spend some money everybody. The UK will boost both stockpiles and weapons production capacity. That could be scaled up if needed with at least six new munitions factories. The plan includes building 12 new attack submarines and investing more in Britain's nuclear arsenal. We are investing £15 billion in our sovereign warhead programme to secure our deterrent for decades to come. It's also a message to Washington. Like other NATO members, the UK has been reassessing its defence spending since Donald Trump returned

to the White House, threatening to pull away from Europe's defence. Everything we do will add to the strength of NATO. As we step up to take greater responsibility for our collective defence, the NATO alliance means something profound, that we will never fight alone. The new announcements come after the UK pledged to raise defense spending to hit 2.5% of GDP by 2027 and 3% before 2034. But it's unclear where the money will come from for the latter target.

As he juggles severely strained public finances, Starmer has portrayed the higher defense spending as a way to create jobs and has already contentiously cut international aid spending. General Smedley Butler said it best. War is a racket. And I think in this case, except for the poor Ukrainians, we are going to be raising everybody's GDP by creating more war machines. And it's going to be particularly good for the United States because we have helped and facilitated the fear that Russia is going to take over everything and Putin is the big bad boogeyman and we need to have more money and nothing

proves it better than the ministers of defense all getting together in Brussels, talking about the new budgets and led as always by the interestingly nose touching sniffing Mark Rutte. Nature Defense Ministers are meeting in Brussels to lay the ground for the summit in the Hague and also take key decisions to enhance our deterrence and defense. We will also address our continued support for Ukraine and the urgent need for peace. The world is becoming more dangerous. There's Russia's brutal war against Ukraine, the threat of terrorism and intense global competition.

We will continue to protect our people and our way of life. Now there's a bit coming. So we must make NATO a stronger, fairer and more lethal alliance. Lethal! At this ministerial we are going to take a huge leap forward. We will strengthen our deterrence and defense

by agreeing ambitious new capability targets. Oh, new capability targets, what does that mean? To deliver on our new targets, it's clear that we will need significantly higher defense spending. That underpins everything. Yes, more defense spending, because if we defend it,

we will be better than the Romans. NATO is the most powerful defense alliance in world history. Yes. Even more powerful than the Roman Empire. Powerful. So, and more powerful than the Napoleon Empire. Who threw Napoleon? We are the most powerful defense alliance in world history. It's even more powerful than the Roman Empire. More powerful than the Napoleon Empire. We are the most powerful defence alliance in world history.

Phonefinger number one. But the defence alliance needs maintenance and needs investment. Needs maintenance. If you want to be strong you need to maintain it. And that's exactly why in NATO we have this whole system, the NATO defence planning process leading to an agreement on the capability targets. And that means that we will have exactly, exactly, exact clarity on where are we and where should we be if we want to be able to defend ourselves not only today but also in 3, 5, 7 years. Listen to the German Chief of Defence who said this week on the record that within 4

or 5 years the Russians might be able to attack us. Four or five years they come to attack us, the Russians are coming. Well, I and all my colleagues want to prevent that because we want to stay free, we value our way of life and we don't want any form of Russian dominance over NATO territory. Okay, so we need to spin. So all the ministers are together. They're all talking about it. And they're trying to put that 5% together with some fuzzy numbers.

And this is very suspicious what's going on. Now the US, the Trump administration has been demanding a 5% target that's way up from the existing 2% target. Mark Ruta has figured out a way to kind of fudge that. His proposal on the table is that that would be a 3.5% target for hard military spending, tanks, ammunition, this type of stuff, and then an additional 1.5% on military adjacent spending,

which would be things like, it could be cyber security, it could be investing in domestic infrastructure to make sure bridges are able to withstand the weight of tanks. This has been greeted cautiously, let's say, by the US administration. And it could be that Trump shows up to that NATO summit at the end of the month and says, no, we need 5% hard spending. Yeah, we definitely do. And Pete Hegseth was very clear about it because he's also in Brussels. It's very good to be here with Ambassador Whitaker.

I thought his remarks, statements, everything yesterday were spot on. So thank you for representing the United States. And I don't think anybody has done more to advance the cause of strengthening NATO than President Trump. And he started it in his first term, calling for 2%, calling for investment in this alliance. You got to be, to be an alliance, you got to be more than flags. You got to be formations. You got to be more than conferences.

You need to be combat ready capabilities. He didn't quite have all the alliteration down, but he finally got there. So we're here to continue the work that President Trump started, which is a commitment to five percent defense spending across this alliance, which we think will happen, which we think has to happen by the summit at the Hague later this month. So that's our focus, five percent combat credible and capable forces and then making sure NATO is focused on its core mission, 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%.

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5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5%. 5% and where is that going? To us. And Putin then gets to do his thing in Russia. Well, you know, they're ramping up over there. We need some more money. Everyone's doing it. You know, we just have to make sure no one goes crazy and pushes a button, but that behooves no one. So to me, no peace until after the big splash in the Hague and then miraculously we'll have, we won't have a, we might have a, what do they have?

A North Korean armistice where we do, we'll do something like that. We won't have an actual, an actual peace agreement. I don't think this has always been about money. It always is. The joke is tanks? I know. Check the calendar. You know, on the drones, I got a really interesting short clips from the War Room podcast. This is not Banyan.

This is not Banyan. Before you say that, I want to mention a meme that's been floating around, which is a, it says American aircraft carrier shows an aircraft carrier, big giant thing, one of the big ones. Then it says French aircraft carrier shows one of the French aircraft, it says Chinese aircraft, it shows a Chinese one. Then it says Ukrainian aircraft carrier, it shows a big rig, just a truck. Well. Lot cheaper.

There's so many questions around that drone attack. I love the aerial footage that is circulating, which seems to be drone footage going over the destroyed bombers. Some of them have five engines, some have three. It's so obvious. You're talking about the bombers? Yeah, it's AI. There's AI video floating.

Who knows what's even real anymore? We can't tell. We don't know. But this completely explains the drones over New Jersey. And it's very interesting to learn from this Lieutenant Lushenko. Now, Lieutenant Lushenko, he is with the JCO. Hold on a second. I have him.

U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel serves as the Chief Strategist and Director of Future Studies and War Gaming for the Joint Counter Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office, known as the JCO. So he's propagandist, obviously, but he's good. It is different to think about Homeland Defense versus force protection of soldiers and coalition forces abroad. In a recent exercise, what we found

was that we are just out of position, frankly, in the homeland in terms of the kit, in terms of training, and in terms of policies and authorities, things as simple as how do we communicate across the interagency with the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration? How do we share information? What does it mean to coordinate high-endming capabilities like counter precision navigation and timing. You don't want to shut down a commercial aircraft because you're trying to take down a 20 pound

drone. That's absolutely right. The other thing, Tom, is that we lack, and this is clearly stated and admitted by our senior leaders to include the Northern Command commander, General Guijo and the Vice Chief of Staff in the Army, we lack the ability to identify friend or foe at installations. Domain awareness is a huge challenge for us. Oh yeah. Yeah, of course we can't have Gene Naftaliah flying his drones around and not knowing if

it's a Russian. Oh wait, he is a Russian. And they're killer drones too, and we sell them. As relates to friendly forces, I think we've had some marginal success, although we still lack kit, especially in the homeland, as relates to defeat of these capabilities. And so the J.Co, through its demonstration portfolio, we actually have no.

Demonstration portfolio. Is that the sales brochure? I can't put it right. This guy loves talking like this. I love this. Through its demonstration portfolio, we actually have no authority to purchase anything. We're influencing industry and joint force partners to buy stuff on our behalf. But through that sort of process, we have encouraged the fielding of FSLIDS, fixed site,

low, slow, small, unmanned aircraft system interceptor. And that has sort of a KU-band radar coupled with a small form factor, less costly missile called the Coyote that has proliferated across central command based upon the threat there. And indeed, President Trump, during his recent trip to the Middle East agreed

upon selling 15 or so of these capabilities to Qatar. Sounds a lot like the drones that were used in Russia, honestly. Well, autonomous, they got LIDAR, they got little bombs on them, perfect. And lasers. I got to ask, are we having success with lasers on UAS? I hadn't heard that and it sounds awfully Star Wars-ish. That's right. I think we're in the beta testing phase at this point, right? So what I've seen from the initial reports from CENTCOM is we need to do a lot more work as it relates to

that. But at this point, we're really not wasting time moving out quickly and smartly in concert with the Defense Innovation Unit on this. In fact, there is a forthcoming executive order, or so I'm told, from the Trump administration, which is attempting to energize the industrial base in the United States to increase investment, not just for homeland defense, but also force protection in terms of these capabilities. Money, money, money. Yeah, force protection. And by the way, we've done the beta testing.

It's also called war gaming. So we recently ran the largest scale tabletop exercise for five years. By the way, drone operators, you will not be happy with what this guy is about to say. The JCO brought together 30 agencies, as well as the White House, specifically the National and Homeland Security Councils, over 100 participants. The core objective that we pursued was trying to understand how the JCO could best enable US Northern Command to protect the homeland. From that, we came up with a series of five implementation decisions that we had briefed

up through the Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, General Mingus, who provides our governance at the joint force level. And those things consist of recommendations for better coordination with the FAA for, again, jamming capabilities. How do we coordinate in terms of sharing information and intelligence with our partners, optimizing the National Guard Bureau as we've talked about, and then further is shifting the legislation to have point of sale registration for small drones. Point of sale registration. We can quickly identify friend from foe. What the hell does that mean? Inveritable license, if you will, for a small drone.

What he just said. You'll need a license, a special license for a small drone. I'm sure you will need your real ID to purchase it and you're going into Palantir. So these things are really, really important because we have shifted the conversation on policy that they're going to codify executive orders and indeed representatives are now talking about things like how do we define an aircraft? Right now the law makes no distinction between a man and unmanned aircraft and soldiers are held liable for taking down a drone as if they took down a commercial airliner. So that's the level that JCO is operating at. Dude, dude, we are a war manufacturing country. There's just no two ways about it.

And the more I think about this, and although I agreed with you on your initial reaction to initial response on the last episode, I think the golden dome will be significantly different from the iron dome. The iron dome is a dome that keeps out, you know, long range and, you know, medium range missiles, nuclear stuff, whatever from Russia and the golden dome. That'll be like a thing that's internal. I think it's gonna be protecting us from drones and stuff on the inside. This drone attack on Russia was no mistake.

It was a sales pitch, it was a capabilities demonstration, the tabletop exercise, I don't know what you wanna call it, but this was meant to show us something that asymmetric warfare is here upon us And we need money to do it I don't know The long presentation you just gave us I did not the presentation was like four minutes of those clips But okay over to you, Bob.

It's an hour into the show. What are you talking about? I've given you, I would talk about four different topics. I've kept long pauses for you to jump in. Nothing. Nothing to jump in on. I didn't find it. For one thing, the initial topic,

which I've long since forgotten. Let's play some TikTok videos. That'll make you feel better. The first topic, which I've long since forgotten. I can't remember. You had to, I've said that as a cue to remind me what you, what was it? Oh yeah. It was, no, I lost it again. It was Elon Musk. Yeah. Elon Musk. I didn't think that was interesting. Uh, and I'll tell you why, because you know, like you said, right?

The beginning of your whole thesis was the whole things of phony deal. You are disconnected from the beginning, your whole thesis was that the whole thing's a phony deal. You are disconnected from the world, my friend. People are flipping out over this thing. It is top of the news. It is what everyone is talking about, particularly our own people. So you may not find it interesting.

Well, maybe in Texas. Now, sure not mentioned, it's not even brought up in the local news around here. Wow, okay, well. And I will say Fox plays it up. I don't even watch Fox. I watched the whole thing this morning, the whole press conference with Trump. And I kind of agree that there's something's phony about it because Trump does say, he said the one comment, which you didn't have a clip of, which is, Elon knew more about the big, beautiful bill

than anybody here in the room, he says. Where's your clip? I didn't think it was... Where's my clip? It's where it belongs. I didn't find it interesting enough to carry any clips for it. Well, I'm all ears for interesting topics. But I'm backing your clips up by telling you some stuff that you didn't get clipped, which

kind of to back your point up. your point is that this thing is fake. Yes. But no one besides you and I see that, trust me. And so, well, I saw, thought it was so fake that I didn't even bother with it. But I will say that Trump said that Elon knew, and why did he say that? I don't know. And thus it was something just to tell people that, hey, don't worry about it. The other thing is, he says, I don't know if we're gonna be friends anymore,

but he said that not in the way he normally takes on these guys. When a guy turns on him, he usually calls him an idiot or something. He gives him some acronym, or gives him some nasty, he nasties him. He didn't do that at all. So the second part of my presentation came from our very own people,

which was the Palantir thing, which you hadn't even heard of. And that's also, that's no, I knew that. No, I had heard of something because I got the same note you did about the guy from Palantir talking about how the whole thing is exaggerated and a crock of shit. Thus I didn't carry any clips for it if I just took his word for it because it was very credible I'm doing is defending my so-called presentation of you saying it was boring and no good and I took up all this time I never said I never said it was boring and no good. Those you can't find those words in my comment

I just thought it was It was long. I'm waiting for you to launch into something. I'm all ears. The topics are so disparate considering you kept it into this. My stuff is so different. Good. That it's hard to jump into. I mean, I could do... That's why there's two of us. I'll play one lone clip that's got nothing to do with anything else, but I that it's hard to jump in there. I mean, I could do... That's why there's two of us. I'll play one lone clip that's got nothing to do

with anything else, but I think it's the most important clip I have, which has nothing to do with any of this stuff where you talked about or anything else we're gonna talk about. But I think this is phenomenal. This is the Trump versus Columbia wow clip. The Trump administration is taking action against Columbia University, saying the school

violated Title VI of the Civil Rights Act and therefore no longer meets the standards of the organization that accredits the university. A press release from the Education Department says that its Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Health and Human Services Office for Civil Rights, quote, determined that Columbia University acted with deliberate indifference towards the harassment of Jewish students since October 7, 2023. The Trump administration said today it has notified the Middle States Commission

on Higher Education, the school's accreditor. So what does that mean? They're going to be discredited as a scholastic institute? This is no slouch of an idea. And this has to do with Harvard. Trump went after Harvard by first going after their money. Then they went after Harvard by taking away all their foreign students.

They got 26% foreign students to pay full tilt to get into the place. They're getting sued over that. Now the real DeSalvo, the one that the shot over the bow is accreditation. Yes. This is the biggest possible thing, threat you can make to a university. You lose accreditation, you might as well just close your shop.

Who hands out the accreditations? There's a couple of groups that do it. There's one in particular which I think they're talking to. I don't know the name of it offhand, but if you don't have accreditation as a university, you might as well close the doors. So what that means that if I go to Cal and get, you know, take English there and I transfer over to someplace else is no good. And Cal's not accredited. No, you got to start from scratch. A no agenda PhD will be worth more.

not accredited. No, you got to start from scratch. A no agenda PhD will be worth more. Yes, this is telling us that the no agenda PhD is going to be worth as much as a Columbia degree if they lose their accreditation. What does he want from them? I'm sure he wants something. He wants something. He wants something. I think that I'm not, now that you asked a simple question, I'm not absolutely sure anymore. I mean, if it's, I think they want these, the endowments, if it's the endowments, I get it. I think the idea of taxing Mrs. Is a good one. I also think there is the notion that I've pushed on this show, which is that

all these colleges and universities do is crank out Democrat voters. They're just kind of designed to do that and nothing else. I think there may be something there. I don't know. But this is a big deal. I'm sure there's meetings going on as we speak. People that normally would be listening to the show, they're meeting about this. This has got to be freaking everybody out. It's interesting because I got a note this morning from the constitutional lawyer and this may play into it. The Supreme Court, this is from Law 360, justices Nick's higher hurdle for heterosexual bias

claims. What? The Supreme Court, Nick's higher hurdle for heterosexual bias claims. So I think this plays into it, maybe. This is about Title VII, and it was a heterosexual woman who claimed that the Ohio Youth Services Department discriminated against her because she is not LGBTQ+. And the Sixth Circuit had ruled that heterosexuals must produce additional evidence demonstrating extra background circumstances in order to establish this prima facie case.

And LGBTQ plus employees did not bear this burden. So SCOTUS unanimously rejected the six course rationale, which means this is not just for a sexual orientation. This will mean that basically reverse racism is real and you can't do it. That's what this decision is saying. And I think this plays into a lot of these universities because they are, they're they, all they do is reverse racism, which is racism. Which is racism. Yeah. The term is bad. It's a bad term. Yes.

But people at least understand it. And so a lot of this plays into it. I don't know. That's a question that we should try to figure out because this is this battle that between Trump administration and these big Ivy League colleges in particular. Well, first of all, the tuition fees are outrageous because of the basically free government money which puts everybody into jail, into a debt jail, debtor's jail, which you can't get out of even with bankruptcy. Even with bankruptcy.

When they didn't have the free money, these tuitions were reasonable. And they have money through these large tax-free endowments, which are tax-free to use them and tax-free to donate to them or they create a tax advantage to donate to them. Especially if you can use that money for your own good on the back end. The endowments for this. So that would be a pro for the American people. So that would be a pro for the American people. And maybe they'll improve their education. Yeah, well that's pretty amazing. What are your Harvard clips?

Do I have Harvard clips on here? Yeah, you got two. I thought you were leading right into it. I'm leading right into the Harvard clips, but this is really not that connected. This is just a follow-up on Trump versus Harvard, which I still think is the real target here. A topic that has driven headlines for the last two months, Trump versus Harvard University. The bout began in late March when a federal anti-Semitism task force said it would investigate Harvard's administrative and academic policies. Trump let off his attack with accusations of the school not doing enough to combat anti-Semitism on campus, but also for continuing diversity, equity, and inclusion, or DEI, policies in its admissions, curriculum,

and hiring. He also alleged that Harvard is too left-wing and no longer prioritizes merit in higher education to the same degree it did in the past. Trump followed up the barrage with a list of demands. Those included a ban on masks, limits to campus protests, and a review of any potential biases in various academic departments. The president also froze all federal funding to the university until his demands are met. Harvard retaliated in April by saying it would not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional rights. The university has sued the Trump administration and unfreeze the billions in federal grant money

that it could inevitably lose. Harvard has argued that Trump is impeding its ability to conduct research important for the entire country, including medical breakthroughs and scientific discoveries. Trump countered in May by directing the Department of Homeland Security, or DHS, to shut down Harvard's foreign student enrollment indefinitely.

DHS alleged Harvard was coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party. What news outlet is this? Ugh, I don't know. It sounds like AI. Yeah, it does. It could make it a little more exciting, it does. Make it a little more exciting at least. So you see the four, it's possible after listening to this Columbia clip that Harvard's being set up because Harvard keeps deflecting.

No, no, no. You're taking money away from medical research. They got plenty of money. You're taking a money, you know, $400 million is nothing to Harvard. No, hold on a second. Sorry, 400, yeah, you dropped out. $400 million is nothing to Harvard? No, $400 million is nothing to Harvard

when they have $50 billion sitting in their endowment and they can get money from it. And the money is researched for drug companies that can easily spend that. I mean, we had a list of the, recently I think we mentioned on the show, you know, these, I think Pfizer, not Pfizer, but all the big boys, Johnson & Johnson

being at the top of the list, I think they did 18 billion in profits in one year. And so, and all these companies are in the billions and billions, so the 400 million in research for something or other that's going to benefit a drug company can be picked up by the drug companies. Why are we, the taxpayers picking it up? We're not getting benefited from it. I mean, we're getting, it's kind of a benefit, but it's the drug companies that make the money off of it. So, what's the point? I think they're maybe setting them up because they're going to not do anything about the Jewish issue.

They could pull the plug on their... A postulation. Yeah. That would be the big deal. It's part two. Most recently though, the school defended its foreign enrollment saying, quote, Harvard is not Harvard without its international students, end quote. This has played out in court, as Sam indicated, with a judge this week extending a temporary block on DHS from preventing Harvard's enrollment of foreign students.

And the government has also given the school 30 days to respond to the Homeland Security Department's actions. In terms of answering Trump's demands, Harvard has established task forces to investigate both anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic activities while also suggesting they would at least try to diversify political opinion on campus. But will NDEI ban masks and submit to immigration authorities? Unlikely. Nonetheless, the federal funds are still frozen and Harvard is not happy about that. Well, just use your tens of billions of dollars in endowments, Trump says. Harvard fired back, saying it is relying on all the interest that comes from those endowments being invested to fund the university.

As a business mogul, Trump knows that principle, right? And that really gets down to the question, does Trump have the right to do this with federal funds? Is it constitutional to punish a school or its students for their free speech, even if the president doesn't agree with that speech? Trump's alleging that basically taxpayer money is funding DEI and left-wing thinking at one of the country's most elite universities. On the other hand, Harvard is saying it has a constitutional right and needs the funding for critical research. Critical research. Yeah.

Through those clips, you're right. The guy's a boring presenter. Yes. If you want, President Trump, the administration has taken away more money from the medical community and it brought out the spokes holes, who are usually doctors, to say that he's crazy. Interested? Yeah. Of course. Just checking.

In other vaccine news, the Trump administration has canceled the US government's contract with Moderna to develop a vaccine for bird flu. Oh no. The recent strain of the avian flu arrived in the US in 2022 and it's led to the deaths of over 170 million birds, resulting in a nationwide spike in egg prices. Get ready because Dr. Vingupta is going to tell you why it's nuts. Oh, not the eggs thing again.

Oh no, it gets better. Oh no, eggs? That's just the beginning. The flu infected more than 1000 herds of cattle as well as 70 people. Although this strain is not yet highly contagious for humans, infectious disease experts worry the next pandemic could indeed come from an avian flu. We have seen this administration slash funding for so much in the way of research and development, including people thought was very promising HIV treatments, vaccines there.

And now this avian flu, give us your sense on this one, because as we just said, there are experts who think the next big terrible pandemic might come from exactly this. Big terrible pandemic is the, I guess that's the counterweight to the big beautiful bill. We've got to throw something out there. Next big terrible pandemic might come from exactly this. What's the point here? Why are they doing this? Why? Why are they doing it? Again, I'm not sure. I'm not sure this is even consistent with President Trump's view of wise investments in biomedical research. Remember, Operation Warp Speed, probably his signature achievement. Don't you love that? Like, having a Moderna contract is a wise investment

in medical research and like, really? During the COVID pandemic and in its first term. So this is, I wonder how much he's clued in to exactly what's happening here. Because this is not the stuff he did from his place. I don't think you can scam Trump twice. I'm sorry? I don't think you can scam Trump twice. I'm sorry. I don't think he's scam Trump twice. He was scammed operation warp speed.

You know, the joke of that, of course, is that he, you know, he buys into the whole thing, lets them go off on their merry way with government money. And then they hold back until after the election. So it makes sure Biden gets in. That's, that's a thank you very much. And in his first term. so this is, I wonder how much he's clued into exactly what's happening here because this is not his stuff, even from his prior precedence. This doesn't really make any sense.

And so for all your viewers out there, just to keep in mind, what's happening is there's a promising phase one, phase two, early stage vaccine candidate for avian flu. And this bird flu that is changing exactly as you point out Jonathan, right before our eyes. It went from birds to cattle to mountain lions. I mean this thing is changing. What? Mountain lions?

It went from birds to cattle to mountain lions. Humans are next. What happened to the bats and the pangolins? Changing exactly as you point out Jonathan, right before our eyes it went from birds to cattle to mountain lions i mean this thing is changing at a speed we haven't seen before and so yes exactly we're worried that the next pandemic is not a matter of if but when and it's likely going to be it's blue that's changing flu that's changing i'm telling you you. By the way, President Trump is

truthing. He's truthing. As we speak? As we speak. Here, two truths. The easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. He knew that for months and I knew I was going to do it.

And he just went crazy. Come on. Well, back to the bird flu. Yeah. So I have to bring back, this is a reminiscence, but this is by, now I have a bunch of clips from Thomas Massey. He was on-

Oh yeah, he's also, he's also, he's mad, he's mad. He was on the, this guy's show, this Brit, I got WMS, it's, I can't remember what the- WMS? Yeah, well that's the guy. He said, it's William or Bill or something, something MS, I had to go look him up. It's on a piece of notepad.

But this guy's got a podcast, we're supposed to do more podcasting stuff and we're doing it. We are. And Massey has a story about the COVID vaccine and the, which I don't know if we've heard in these words so much, because he did an investigation, he had a committee on it, about how it got its authorizations and all the rest of it. And I think it's good to follow that to bird flu clip with this. If the tariffs increase the prices, they're going to be annoyed by that.

But I think the ideas behind tariffs, which even Trump would probably agree with, it's not going to be an easy start, but eventually they want to get to a place where people have more money because the industries are back in America. But what if we're not good at making stocks? What clip are you playing? issues are back in America. But what if, what if we're not good at making socks? What clip are you playing? Massey on W. Well, it says WMS Massey and it says on socks. I mean, I don't know what you're doing. You don't have Massey COVID?

I was looking at WMS. That was the clue you gave me. It says WMS on that clip too. WMS at the end of my clips. I got it. But you must know this. At the end of the clip, I put a code that tells me where the clip came from. Right. Like BBC or I put NTD.

I'll tell you exactly how this happened. You have two clips, Massey on committees. Massey is all upper case, which to me means important. No, that's never been true. And then underneath that, so when my eye goes down the list... No, I understand how it happens. It's a long list. These clips lists are long and people don't understand what a mess this, you know, the backend of the show is. I'm surprised you spelled Massey right. So now this is true too. Let me play the right clip. Before you do that. Well, this socks clip is interesting,

but it's not got nothing to do with COVID. I see it. It's literally, it's a, it's my parsing of the list. It is, it is all on me. That's on me, bro. My bad. Here we go. Okay, here we go with you bad. And this is the discussion.

This is, I don't know, after you play this clip, tell me if we knew this. Okay. Well, something good happened this week, actually. And I think it's because of RFK Jr. being head of the Health and Human Services. Under the Biden administration, the scientists, the vaccine scientists at the FDA were pressured to skip steps, ignore data, skip the step where a review panel, outside review panel, reviews their authorization.

Emergency authorization. Yes. Yeah. This was for the, so they needed to go from emergency use to a full licensure in order to mandate the vaccine. And so the scientists were told that they needed to take the political position and to accelerate the full approval process, not just the EUA.

And the scientists were also told, you need to do an EUA for the boosters. And the scientists pressed back and said, we need more time to give it the full licensure. And we don't think everybody needs a booster. Those were the, that was the top vaccine scientists, Marian Gruber at FDA and, and her deputy, uh, Philip Krause. They were forced out of the FDA under the Biden administration and left mysteriously under a cloud, didn't say a lot. I brought them in. I was chairman of a subcommittee on regulatory reform.

I brought them in each for five hours, deposed them, found out that their boss, Peter Marks, was the bad guy. Because after he pushed them out, he took their job as responsibilities himself and approved the vaccine. He wasn't even a vaccine scientist. He was like their manager. And instead of replacing them, he took their job and just got it done. And, um, he left the FDA this week. And by the way, after deposing them, I held a hearing and called one of them as a witness and some other people as witnesses and exposed what had happened. And I was frustrated that this man, Peter Marx was still at the FDA, but now he's gone this week.

Was it the FDA or the CDC? I thought it was maybe, maybe it was FDA. still at the FDA, but now he's gone this week. Was he at the FDA or the CDC? I thought it was, maybe it was FDA. Hmm. Did we know that story? Not like that. I do recall Peter Marks, all of a sudden moving to the forefront.

But no, man, there's so much that happened back then. It's all scamish. Oh, what? But no, man, there's so much that happened back then. It's all scamish. Oh, what? Well. And it's still going on with this bird flu nonsense and with the clip you just played. I mean, if that doesn't sound like another setup for just wasting taxpayers' money and then suckering people and they get a a shot that they don't need.

Yeah. I don't know what is. Well, there's a lot of- Why don't they take this? Why has there been nothing done? There's a big backlash going on about the fact that Kennedy has not pulled the COVID mRNA shots off the market. Yes, here is Jen Psaki. So it turns out running a vast science-based healthcare bureaucracy is a lot harder than being eccentric Nepo baby who feeds conspiracy theories to get attention. Eccentric Nepo baby. I thought that was pretty good. She's done too, by the way.

You know, her ratings are off of, she took over Rachel's slot and her numbers are down 47%. They're going to get rid of her. Well, they've, they've rolled out their new lineup, actually, the new lineup and she, she's already been reduced to four days a week. Here is the promo for the briefing. MSNBC's Jen Psaki, host of the briefing. We've never experienced a moment like this in our country and it leaves us all with a choice. Are we going to speak out or are we going to be pressured into silence? I've worked for presidents,

I've faced the tough questions from the press and even threats from the Kremlin and if there's one thing I've learned is that you can't cower to bullies. You don't need to be hopeless, we have our voices and I will continue using mine. The briefing with Jen Psaki, Tuesday through Friday at 9 p.m. Eastern on MSNBC. They're promoting her. They're trying to get her some viewership. She's toast. Yeah. So they are continuing with the COVID fear mongering.

We have a summer spike. This comes summer. We have a summer spike. This comes summer. We have a summer spike. It's that beta thing. A new COVID variant has health experts paying close attention. The NB 181 is spreading quickly in other parts of the world. It has been tracked in several states, including Virginia. The state epidemiologist is not sounding the alarm. We've built up a lot of immunity to COVID. Although there's no reason to believe this variant will lead to more severe

illness than previous variants, she says it will likely cause an increase in summer cases. She recommends getting vaccinated, especially if you are in a more vulnerable group. I think what I think about with any vaccine, but particularly a COVID vaccine, or including a COVID vaccine, I should say, is that we want those people who are most vulnerable to more severe complications, hospitalization, even death, that they are the ones that are protected.

And that includes the elderly and people with preexisting conditions. U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just removed the COVID vaccine CDC recommendations for healthy pregnant women and healthy children, prompting the CDC doctor who oversees recommendations to resign. Oh, well, that's good. Rats are leaving the ship. Who do they want resigning? Some CDC director resigned. Let me see. Director resigns. Here we go.

Reuters. Oh, well. Pediatric infectious disease expert, Dr. Lakshmi. Do we even hear of Lakshmi? Well, now we have. He resigned of a CDC working group that advises outside experts so that that report was somewhat specious, as she would say. Maybe a good time to remind people that if you hear the following type of language in

your mainstream media, your M5M, that means that they've finally gotten there. This is a little throwback or callback to where we were. We want to make sure that people can discern the truth from the misinformation. And we want to make sure that everyone understands it. No one's safe till everyone's safe. No one is safe. No one is safe.

No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. Nobody is safe. That's not post-9-11 axioms. Safer but not yet safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. Nobody is safe.

It's not post 9-11 axioms. Safer but not yet safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe from COVID-19 until everyone is safe. If the whole world isn't safe, none of us are safe. No one is safe.

No one is safe. Nobody is safe. Until we're all safe. Health experts have been saying nobody is safe. Nobody is safe until everybody is safe. Nobody is safe. What a Psi everybody is safe. Nobody is safe. What a PsiOp when you think about it. The whole idea that everyone has to be vaccinated

because an unvaccinated person can hurt a vaccinated person. It was so unbelievable. I remember us just at the time going like, what is this logic? If this thing is safe and effective, then it doesn't matter if someone's unvaccinated next to you. But no, nobody's safe till everybody's safe. Science is clear. No, no, that's not safe.

There is no safety. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe until everyone is safe. No one's safe. Nobody is safe. Nobody's safe. No one's safe.

Never be safe till we're all safe. We are never going to be safe. 99.5% of people are safe and will survive COVID-19. The only positive thing out of this is we should be able to manufacture a lot of vaccines and nobody will be safe if not everybody is vaccinated. You don't have a choice. As long as not everybody is vaccinated, nobody will be safe. Normalcy only returns when we-

Well, I can't go through the whole thing. It's triggering Sounds like it goes on for days. Oh, it goes on another another minute and a half. I Don't think we need to hear it. It was in the show notes everyone can listen to it at their own leisure and then one of the things that we got excoriated for was pregnant women and menstrual cycles and all of this stuff. And this OBGYN Dr. James Thorpe, I think this was one of those Ron Johnson small room in the Capitol. The fake deals.

The fake, yeah. Like, I'm going to go testify before Congress. Wait, what room is this? In the gym at the Washington high school. Here he is. This deception was institutionalized in the now infamous Shima Bakoro study published on April 21st, 2021 in the digital version of the New England Journal of Medicine. 21 authors claim the miscarriage rate was 12.6%,

but the raw data revealed an 82% miscarriage rate. Remember that when people were like, you don't know, you don't understand the numbers. You're not seeing it right. It's not 80, it's 12%. It's bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh. It was 12.6%, but the raw data revealed an 82% miscarriage rate in women vaccinated during the first trimester. This figure mirrors the effects of chemical abortion drugs

such as RU-486. Also, in the same journal edition, on the same day, an op-ed appeared by CDC director Rochelle Walensky and journal editor-in-chief Eric Rubin. These publications were riddled with conflicts of interest and deliberate misrepresentations intended to coerce pregnant women into taking vaccines. Subsequent studies have also claimed that COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective during

pregnancy and have been rebuked by respected researchers. These publications are fundamentally compromised by serious conflicts of interest ranging from bias funding sources and institutional mandates and even threats to their medical licenses and board certifications. Between 2020 and 2022, pharmaceutical companies paid $1.06 billion to reviewers at leading medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, Lancet and BMJ, thus corrupting the peer review process.

At least six existing studies, three from CDC, FDA, and two from Pfizer revealed major breaches in safety signals for COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy. Well, well, well. Well, well, well. Well, well, well. Did we just play a clip in the last show about from one of the networks pushing the COVID vaccine on pregnant women?

Oh, well, if you want to hear NPR, I'm happy to play it for you. This is new. The Trump administration is making it more difficult for healthy children and healthy pregnant women to get the COVID vaccine. And that is worrying. How is it more difficult for healthy children and healthy pregnant women to get the COVID vaccine and that is worrying. How is it more difficult? How is he making it more difficult? You walk in, you say, I want the shot. They make it sound like, like, like it has to go to a back alley.

It's coat hanger time. Once again, no, no, not at all. The pregnant women to get the COVID vaccine. And that is worrying parents, younger adults and pregnant women who still want the shot. NPR health correspondent Rob Stein spoke with someone. They want the shot. They want the shot. They can get the shot.

Yes. Lauren Capetti was relaxing with her husband at their home in Cincinnati when she heard about the new recommendations for who should get a COVID vaccine. I was sitting on my couch watching the news. I was just like, what is happening? I started crying. I was like, they're not recommending it for pregnant women anymore.

And I was like, is this really like? I was crying because I wanted so bad. I was crying. I was crying. This is a bogus report. Yaw, really? What's happening? Am I not going to be able to get this vaccine?

I'm not going to be able to get this vaccine? I'm not going to be able to get this vaccine. No one said that. Why? Why? Why? Why? That's absolutely terrifying. Terrifying.

By the way, it's absolutely terrifying, John. The whole premise is bogus. The whole premise is false. And where did they get that from? Probably from NPR. Why? Why? That's absolutely terrifying.

Terrifying because the 30-year-old Ohio State worker is about five months pregnant, but the CDC is no longer recommending the shots for healthy pregnant women. I don't want to get COVID while I'm pregnant. I don't want it to hurt my child. I don't want to have a premature birth. I just know that there's complications that come along with it. So that does scare me. She also knows that the only way to protect her newborn baby is by getting vaccinated herself.

Not only does it protect me while I'm pregnant, but it does help the child once they're born in their first few months of life, when they have zero immunity to it whatsoever. So, you know, that's important to me. I want my child to have access to that. This NPR program is brought to you by Pfizer and People Like You. Isn't that incredible? With all the little inserts. Oh yeah, she doesn't want something to happen to her baby. I like the fact that she's in tears. There's more. And Rachel sampler Zalaya is worried

too. She's 42 and lives in College Grove Minnesota. This guy has a swish. It's kind of funny. He has lost shivers and he can't breathe through his nose. Her six-year-old daughter has asthma, so she wants to keep getting herself, her husband, and their two other healthy kids vaccinated to protect her too. But the new policies could make it harder for the rest of the family. This is exactly, this is propaganda, indoctrination, untruth coming from the national public radio. It's not harder to get it. Shameful.

In fact, we learned that insurance companies still cover it, will continue to cover it. So it's just not true. I'm angry. Angry, frustrated. And she's not just angry and frustrated because she's worried about protecting her daughter. She wants to shield the whole family. It's not just a cold. It affects the vascular system, the neurological system, the immune system.

Oh, you mean the shot or the COVID itself? I'm confused. And even mild cases have the potential to develop into long COVID. You know, the brain fog, the memory, the fatigue. We vaccinate for far less, and this is definitely a disease to me that needs to be vaccinated for. She says, suddenly having to worry about the vaccines again feels like a flashback to the early days of the pandemic. Feels like we are going back in time again to that same place where there's not a whole

lot that I can do to protect my kids. So the recalling trauma of the listener by recalling the trauma of this poor woman who has clearly been traumatized and is being abused for this piece. Federal officials say the changes make sense because so many people have so much immunity now. They also question the safety of the vaccines,

even though billions of people have gotten the shots. Many experts say that demonstrates the vaccines are very safe and effective for everyone. Wow, billions of people got it. Not everybody died safe and effective. Competti, Hoskins, and Zelaya know they will probably still be able to get the shots by paying for them for themselves, but all the uncertainty and changing rules makes them anxious. Here's Competti again, the pregnant woman from Ohio. Yeah, I'm just worried that if we're losing access to COVID vaccines and I don't know if other things are going to get taken away. Yeah, I'm just scared. I'm just scared. I don't know.

I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I'm just scared. I'm just scared. I don't know. I don't know what's happening Man, oh man. Oh, man. This is a salvo. This is a salvo clip This is one of those clips where where they use bull crap like we're afraid about access Yeah, this is to keep them from banning the vaccine completely yes Okay, the vaccine is gonna be around and Kennedy's promise He's not gonna mess with vaccines and sure and he wants to get rid of them up. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

That's not going to happen. Well, I mean, this is- We're stronger than you, Kennedy. This is Big Pharma. They're also doing, well, if you want to hear the attack from the fluoride industry, because this is the same report everywhere in the country. A recent study published in JAMA Health Forum shows that if all 50 states stopped adding fluoride to tap water, about one in three kids could expect a cavity

within the next five years. We'll be like England. Everyone will have rotten teeth in America. No. So how important is fluoride in our overall dental health? Our sources to answer this, the American Dental Association, family physician Dr. Carla Robinson, and cardiologist Dr. Pyle Coley. Cardiologist?

Cardiologist? The FDA's new plan is to phase out fluoride supplements you eat or drink, not products like toothpaste or mouth rinses. Both doctors highlight the role it can play in our daily care. You know fluoride is really important to protect our teeth because it does sort of two things. It prevents demineralization of our teeth and it also helps with remineralization of our teeth. It helps with demineralization of our teeth but also with remineralization of our teeth. It helps with demineralization of our teeth but also with remineralization of our teeth.

John, you studied chemistry. What's going on here? I have no idea. Prevents demineralization of our teeth. There's a little gotcha in here that is, I'm sure you'll catch it. And it also helps with remineralization of our teeth. We all utilize fluoride, either whether it's in our toothpaste or in our drinking water, or for some who it's not available in their drinking water, maybe supplements. The American Dental Association says

that if you're living somewhere that doesn't have fluoride in the drinking water, you probably need a fluoride supplement. But when it comes to children, what amount of fluoride is considered safe? Robinson mentioned that while it can be dangerous in large amounts. It can cause problems with the teeth, ironically, when used in higher amounts than recommended, or it can also cause problems with the bones. The amount of fluoride that we're typically exposed to in our drinking water or in our toothpaste is so far beyond that, so

beneath that level and so in general... What? What? Did she just, did the truth just come out there? The fluoride in our water is so far beyond, I mean below, what? I recommend it or it can also cause problems with the bones. The amount of fluoride that we're typically exposed to in our drinking water or in our toothpaste is so far beyond that, so beneath that level. And so in general, fluoride and... It's a usage issue. I, it's, yeah, I know what you're saying, but I think I think the way she put it is I think is legal

But she corrected it then why did she correct? Well though there's a point to be made with that The bones the amount of fluoride that was you by the way for anyone who wants to know So one of the nasty nasty chemicals is hydrofluoric acid. You know, sulfuric acid, there's hydrochloric acid, there's nitric acid, which nitric acid's pretty nasty too if you're dealing with it in the lab. You get one small speck of it on you and it turns your skin yellow and kind of burns you. Hydrofluoric acid's a little different.

Hydrofluoric acid, if you get it on you, it goes right through your skin, it just goes right to the bone and starts eating your bone. It starts dissolving your bones right from the outset. Very nasty product. Don't be around it. Isn't that what those Russian hitmen use to get rid of the body? No.

In the bathtub. They use lime. I think everyone uses lime. Lime or lye? It's impractical to use hydrofluoric acid. It's used, the only business that uses it is the semiconductor industry. It uses the clean, a chip, I think,

as wafers and things need to be cleaned with. It's the only thing that'll clean them properly. And it's a real problem. It's a waste issue. Ah, is that why they put it in the water to get rid of it? Well, most of the hydro or the fluoride in water comes from the waste from aluminum manufacturing. It's a waste product and it's hard to get rid of. And for some of the reasons I just mentioned, it's a nasty thing to give you like a drop of hydrofluoric acid on you, it just starts eating your bones.

Yeah, put it in the water. Yeah, so let's drink it. Drinking water or in our toothpaste is so far beyond that, so beneath that level. And so in general, fluoride in regular normal applications is very safe to use and doesn't really put you at risk for those complications. I think this is such a big win because we've been talking about fluoride in the water

since the day this show started. And it was probably second half of show. All right, these nuts are talking about flow right in the water again. It's crazy. What are they thinking? What are they doing? Yeah, I think so. I don't think it was second half of show.

I think we did. We have talked about it, but I think it was first half of show. Okay. All right. It wasn't. Second half of show was all flying saucer stuff, Which a lot of people miss. Myself included. I don't have, because it's bull crap. All of it's bull crap. All of a sudden you've changed from meeting. You met, you were going to meet some guy.

I remember this. This is like in the third year of the show. Yes, I can say that. You were going to meet an alien. He was going to be meeting you somewhere in the Midwest or someplace. And he didn't show up. And he didn't show up. And he didn't show up. No, it was in the north of Holland. I flew there. Oh, it was in the north of Holland.

You're going to meet some guy who's an alien. He just came off a ship. He's going to talk to you and tell you that you would tell you what was going on. He never showed up. Exactly. So now do you understand why I'm saying it's all bull crap? All of it. Yeah.

Zero point energy. I've wasted so many years of my life on this. This is my favorite. I've wasted so many years of my life on this. Perpetual motion. The other favorite one, I'm not here to ridicule you. No. Okay.

But. There's always a big but. There's a big but. The thing you had a Rolls Royce or something in your hay day and you were going to put water. He's going to use water for fuel. No, no, no. That was the Jaguar. The hydro booster. Yeah, and you had water in there and you went on and on about how much great your gas mileage was. It was true. And again, I drove from the UK to the Netherlands, to the east of the Netherlands to have a hydro

booster installed. And I did get better gas mileage by putting water in the gas. It was hydrolysis and it created a boom. What is that stuff? What do you get from it? Boom, what is that stuff? What is that stuff? Boom, what is that stuff? Hydro stuff, you know, boom, that stuff.

Hydrazine. No, not hydrazine. No, it was the... Come on, when you... I have no idea what you're talking about. When you put electricity into water, you get hydrolysis. Electrolysis. Electrolysis. And then what comes out of it is...

Hydrogen. Hydrogen, exactly. And I was putting that straight into the carburetor. The car went fast and it saved gas. It's true. Do you ever wonder what happened to cars you had? I have no idea what happened to that car. I only know the Rolls Royce. I know what happened to the Rolls Royce. I don't know anything, any of my cars have no idea where they went.

Did I sell them? Did I get rid of them? Did I drop them by the side of the road? Well, I can tell you the Rolls Royce is accounted for. There's a, I ran it. We had a person, uh, when I lived at another house in the same town here, there was a old lady living on the corner and she was a kind of crazy old lady and her, the house was located next to the railroad tracks and she

had, it used to be a bootleggers place in the 30s. And the trains would stop right in front of this house and offload a bunch of liquor. And this house would look like a warehouse anyway. It was pretty much an empty house, but it had a lot of, it was just a weird situation. The place was eventually torn down. That was the end of it.

But in the garage right there at that house was a 1920s, 1930s Rolls Royce that was, they never took out. I got to see it once. Mint condition. I had to peer in to see it. I talked to some Rolls Royce guys and there was a Rolls Royce guy somewhere along the lines because there was a thing going on in Berkeley area called Moore House, which was a cult. And everybody in the cult had to have a Rolls Royce. It was a part of the cult. And they drive around these Rolls Royces. There were a bunch of them in Berkeley,

because there was a bunch of cultists here. And so I ran into some Rolls Royce expert, and he was part of some club. He says, oh yeah, every Rolls Royce in the world is accounted for, and he knew the car in that garage. Yes, every Rolls Royce in the world is accounted for and he knew the car in that garage. Yes, every Rolls Royce is. So your car is accounted for by the Rolls Royce folk. I know where it went. That one I know. But my first car, Volkswagen Beetle 1303, I don't remember.

You don't remember. Why would you? Who cares? The Volvo 142, I don't remember. Oh, you had The Volvo 142? I don't remember. Oh, you had a Volvo 142, the funky looking one? That was my mom's car, which I inherited. No, it was the big box, but it had the lawnmower engine in it. Oh, it was the boxy Volvo? The huge boxy Volvo. And then I had the Volkswagen 1303.

And, gosh, I don't remember. I think I had a Mitsubishi after that. I had a Mitsubishi Turbo. It had big turbo sign on the back, which was really gay, really. It was like, it was wrong. It was so wrong. And I mean gay in the old school sense of the word. Yeah, well, we don't care actually on this show.

No, and gosh, but I don't remember. I mean you had a lot of cars. Oh, I had a Buick Skylark with an 8-track in it with a T-top roof. That was my favorite car. It had eight cylinders, but usually if you were idling only six of them worked. That was one of my favorites. There was an engine General Motors had for a while that when you were driving it, it would go to four, it has an eight, but it would use four cylinders. Yeah, that was a thing for a while. I was probably in the 70s for a while.

Yeah, well, it's all because of global cooling. Yes. All right, enough reminisces. Right. Well, people love our stories, John. They come for the deconstruction. They stay for the stories about hydroxy boosters and aliens. Come on, man. We just gave everybody everything they want. So back to Massey, I have some more clips from him if you want to hear. Yeah, of course I do. Thomas Massey,

the guy you mentioned earlier in the show as a sellout or an anti-Trump. Well, he's got his, he's got his reasons. And I have a couple of principles. He's principled is what he is. He's principled. And I think he's right. It's explained in these clips, but at the same time, there is a, he does have a flaw in his thinking. I'm sorry. People are just saying our new exit strategy is car talk. That's it, baby. We're reviving the show. We'll be on NPR stations everywhere soon.

So he does have a, I think this was a mistake. This is Massey. This is the Massox clip that you tried to play earlier. He actually implies that Americans are dumb and then he figures out that he said that and he corrects himself. Listen to this. If the tariffs increase the prices, they're going to be annoyed by that. But I think the ideas behind tariffs, which even Trump would probably agree with, it's not going to be an easy start, but eventually they want to get to a place where people have more money because the industries are back in America.

But what if we're not good at making socks? What if we're better at growing potatoes in this country than we are at making socks? Should, you know, when you go to Walmart, should you be, through tariffs, induced to buy socks that weren't made as well, or as ones made in China or made or were made more costly versus being able to go in and buy your potatoes that were made in America because more of

our effort was put toward things we're good at or things that we can maybe we're good at everything. I don't want to discourage any industry, but yes, exactly. Who are you Thomas Massey we're great at we're not good we made gold toe socks forever here in this country and then they shipped them off to Mexico they're all made in Mexico now they're not as good our socks were so good that it was the number one Christmas gift from your grandma we gave each other socks because our socks were great.

How hard is it to make good socks? So I found that disappointing. Disappointing. Yeah. Well, he talked himself into a bunch. You know what? That's because of the Brit. All of a sudden he thinks he's a...

I had a... Where was this? I had a... Okay, this another anonymous boots on the ground. I was at a training with a federal agency during part of the class. We watched a short video of Robert Cialdini's principles of persuasion. In addition to the principles, the instructor pointed out a subtle principle the video used. The narrator had a British accent.

The instructor stated that Americans tend to find British accents pleasing to hear and we think that people who speak with a British accent are smart Therefore we tend to put more stock or socks in what they are saying Fact So Massey was probably sitting there thinking I'm here with an intelligent guy. We don't know. Well, this is this guy. This is the W WMS William Marshall that I'm sorry, Winston Marshall show. Winston, wow.

Okay. So that's the Winston Marshall podcast. So now this is the thing, we've talked about this on the show before, but I want to remind everybody, people seem to forget it, that if you're on a hot committee, one of the better committees in Congress, you have to pay, you have to pay dues. Like a million bucks at least. It can be a million bucks at the ways and means. Uh, that's the top committee according to Massey and he hears the stories on this.

And by the way, Massey doesn't, he gets charged. Uh, he's on some committees, not an A committee, like he puts it, this is A, B and C committee. And he says, and you look at who's on the some committees, not an A committee like he puts it, this is A, B and C committee. And he says, and you look at who's on the C committee, as you can see, who's probably more honest, you never heard of any of them. He got a bill, he talks about getting the bill, he doesn't say it in this clip,

but he never, he refused to pay. He never paid his committee fees? Nope. Oh, okay. Here we go. This onion that people don't fully appreciate. I didn't know it existed until I got here. When I got here, a lobbyist wanted to have a meeting with me and I took the meeting and my fundraiser was there.

This is a woman who helps me raise money. She said, you should take this meeting. And I had no idea what the meeting was about. And they said, they opened the meeting and said, you're a talented individual. You're a smart guy. You went to MIT. You shouldn't be wasting your time

on these committees you're on. You need to get on the Ways and Means Committee. And my friends and I will raise you the money that's required to get you on the Ways and Means Committee, which by the way is like half a million or a million dollars. What's the Ways and Means Committee? It's the Tax Committee. Okay.

See, and it's considered probably the most powerful committee, because we don't have a flat tax, we don't have a flat tariff, it's because we have all these variations and deductions and exemptions, and everybody's here trying to get one of those. And if you're on that committee, you know, I'm for instance on the transportation committee. So you can imagine the concrete lobbyists would be interested, right? Or the airplane manufacturers might be interested. But guess who's interested in the tax committee? Everybody. It's not like a subset of America that's interested in that committee. Everybody's interested in that committee. And so all the lobbyists

are prone to donating to people on that committee. So if you hold one of those committee seats, you're supposed to collect the money from those lobbyists that are interested in the subjects that come in front of your committee and Give it to the party and there's a dues system here When I first got here and they went to the trouble of sending me the bill It was three hundred thousand dollars every election cycle. I was supposed to give the party For the privilege of serving on these committees, right? Well, that's we knew this it was fun to give the party for the privilege of serving on these committees. Right.

Well, that's, we knew this. It was fun to hear him say it. Yeah, we know we knew this. Not everybody that listens to the show heard it before. I just wanted to remind them that this is a scam. Well, he didn't pay for it. I think that's what's interesting. No, he, well, he said, no, I'm not paying it.

I didn't kill him. He never paid, but they won't put him on a higher end committee. They keep him on these, you know, transportation committee. Right. In one of the clips, he talks about foreign affairs is the lowest of the lowest, the low committee. If people look up who's on foreign affairs committee, you'll see there's a bunch of guys that probably don't pay anything either, including Nancy Mace, who's on that one. Oh, really?

But here's the second half of this clip. It was $300,000 every election cycle I was supposed to give the party for the privilege of serving on these committees. And they say it's legal because the committees aren't in the Constitution. So they believe it's something that they can extract rent from. And because this is all happening within Congress, Congress isn't going to make a law to stop it. So they charge you rent for the committees you're on. And if you want to be on a really lucrative committee, you have to pay higher rent. And you don't go back home. You know, I'm from Kentucky. I

can't go back home and sit in somebody's living room and do a fundraiser with 20 people who like being represented by me, like what I stand for and tell them, well, I'm going to need you all to get out your wallets and write me a $5,000 check because this ain't free. It's not cheap to be on the Ways and Means Committee. You're going to have to donate money to me just so I can be on a committee. I think Americans would revolt, you know, the kind that you do a fundraising in their living room with. They would reject that out of hand. But you can do that with lobbyists. The lobbyists know that's the game that's played. And so you, you know, the lobbyists like what you're doing for them on that committee. They're inclined to help pay your dues.

But what, and there's no way you're going to raise half a million dollars back home in living rooms to pay your rent on the Ways and Means Committee. You have to get it from the lobbyists who have interests in front of the Ways and Means Committee. But by the time you've done that, now you feel obligated to those people. Yeah, yes, that is the system. Yeah, it goes on with more details, but it's all unnecessary. The people need to know this is going on. So you know, what's what.

So the Dutch government collapsed. Yes. Yes. Mimi, I was talking to her about it. She says, oh my God, how did this happen? This is unbelievable. What's going to happen? What's going to happen? I said, this happens. So when I heard this, which is the guy quit, I think that he just walked out. Well, no, and this report will not explain it, but I but there's a little thing in here. So Geert Wilders is what if you remember the far right Trump of the Netherlands, he's the guy that's been under constant protection for the past 15 years because of his anti-Islamophobia.

Because he's like, we got to stop. We're a small country. We can't have all these Islamists coming in and forming ghettos. All of Europe is under severe strain due to immigrants, newcomers, asylum seekers. And so he stood for election with his PVV, the Freedom Party, and did extremely well. You still need to create a coalition. So he got the Farmers Party and a couple others,

and that was very difficult to form the coalition. So you have the majority in parliament. But one of the big things was we're going to stop the asylum seekers and immigration. It's a very small country that we're going to, and besides it's just wrong. We're going to stop this. Um, and so the, one of the big promises was there will be no more of these

And so one of the big promises was there will be no more of these asylum centers in all these small places that no one's ever heard of on the outskirts of the country near the border. And of course, it just started to happen anyway. And so you recall that it was strange that he was the head of the party, he was leading the party, but then they brought in this former intelligence guy to be the prime minister. Spook, a literal spook who was a spook during COVID. The guy was like, why is this guy being chosen to be prime minister? Because you don't vote for the person, you vote for the party. But of course, everyone voted for Geert Wilders. And he said, no, I'm not gonna be prime minister. Now I think this was a long, long game and it's brilliant

because the one thing every person in Western Europe, I mean, would you say arguably President Trump won on immigration? Would you say that that was pretty much the thing? Yes, absolutely. So immigration, that's the thing. Everybody just wants it to stop, particularly in Europe, but we had it here. Like, no, we just want it to stop, which is funny because people are like, whoa, they're going to deport big moms. Okay, we wanted it to stop. We voted for it. We're

actually getting what we voted for. Surprise, surprise. So this was about immigration. So, this was about immigration and the discussion on the table in the parliament was about immigration and they couldn't get it through. His own coalition didn't have enough votes. So, he said, that's it. We're done. We're not going to be a part of the coalition. And then the prime minister rage quit. I'm out too.

Rage quit. This guy was, I mean, he might Rage quiz. Yeah. This guy was, he might as well have been invisible. He spoke a little bit, but he was a spoke. He was a figurehead. And now I understand why. I think it's brilliant. Because now we'll have elections again, I think September, October. And this is going to be the issue. And Geert Wilders will be the guy

Who is who who put his career on the line for it? And I think he will be elected with an overwhelming Majority. Here's the report. He made the announcement. Hold on Tuesday. What that's a gamble, isn't it? He's been gambling with his life for 25 years Okay. Now he's he's again. He's under constant surveillance because, you know, he's pretty much like, oh, here's a cartoon of Mohammed. Hey, you know, that's, he's pretty much made it very clear where he stands on this. And if you ask anyone in Holland, like, oh, he had built this and like, well, here it isn't doing his job.

Who's this guy? And I think he forced this whole issue. The cabinet only formed it like six months ago. They couldn't form the cabinet for nine months. There's a long, long time. So I think he really pushed this episode so that they can have new elections and everyone's going to be like, this is the only guy Immigration is it we want him. He made the announcement online this Tuesday with a message posted on X

No signature for our asylum plans. No amendment to the coalition deal. The PVV is leaving the coalition It's builders departure to two disagreements on immigration This caused the government to collapse and as the Prime Minister promptly resigned, Vilders is hoping he can grab hold of the empty seat. Will your political career end here? Actually I'm going to be the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands. I'll stand in the elections so the party for freedom becomes more popular than ever. The coalition was formed last July and finding middle ground has been an almost impossible

task. The country's Minister for Foreign Affairs criticised the timing of Fielder's decision. It's irresponsible. There's a war in Europe just a few hours away from here. There are wars all around Europe and in the Middle East. Trump's imposed tariffs and there are serious trade issues for a country that has such an open economy as ours. I think it's scandalous that he resigns from the negotiating table at this moment.

But for opposition groups such as the Labour Party, early elections would be a chance to reshuffle the political landscape. Well, I think it's an opportunity for all democratic parties to rid ourselves of the extremes, because it's clear that with the extremes you can't govern. When things get difficult, they run away. Elections aren't expected to take place before October. And considering how fragmented the Dutch political scene is, agreeing to a coalition could take many months more. So no mention of the real issue in that report,

strangely enough. But I think it's probably a very good bet that he's going to be extremely popular now and of course now it all depends on how how they campaign for the next next five six months or so also it will be determined somewhat by the media and how they handle this yeah media could be you know pro-immigration. Yes, but you have to know that the Dutch are rioting now. There are small towns everywhere where they are bombarding the city council. They're throwing eggs at them. They don't want the asylum center.

You can't ignore that news. That news is just too big. They're everywhere. The Netherlands does have regional news. And you know what? It's like every socialist country. Everyone goes, oh yeah, yeah. In public, like, oh yeah, but in private, like,

screw these guys, I want this guy builders. So ultimately your vote is a private affair and I think he will be voted in. I think he will make big moves in the Netherlands. The funny thing is they now have what they call a caretaker government in the interim. So we will continue to govern as if nothing happened. It's really the funniest thing. A caretaker government and well you know there's a little problem with this because we have the big NATO splash

coming up so Dutch Minister of Defense Ruben Bricklemans what are you gonna do about it? Two days ago in the Netherlands the coalition government collapsed and I want to stress here at the NATO headquarter that that doesn't mean anything for our defense and for foreign policy. We as a caretaker government decided to act as if we are a regular government and just to continue business as usual. Business as usual everybody which means we're going to spend your money. International threats do not diminish if there are domestic political issues in the Netherlands.

So we will continue in the same way, also in preparation for the NATO Summit, which I expect is going to be an historic summit. We as a host country want to make this a big success, and we will do all the necessary preparations of course to make this summit a success. And the participants will not see or experience anything different given the fact that we in the Netherlands now have a caretaker government. Of course today is also going to be important to make sure that the 32 Allies get more aligned towards a new defence investment pledge and I expect that we will make further progress. What are the capability targets for the Netherlands?

Can you go into more details on what you will be focusing on? Again everyone is on the same script. The capability, what is the capability? You mean how much money we are going to spend? We call that capability. Of course I am not allowed to share any specifics about that but what we do see in general of course is that NATO is requiring more from us because the threat, especially by Russia, is increasing. We made a calculation of what those additional capability targets mean financially for the

Netherlands and if you calculate this then it means that we should spend, in the medium term we should spend 3.5% at least on defense, which in the Netherlands means an additional 16 to 19 billion addition to our current budget. And that's what we also shared with Parliament, so this is what NATO is expecting from us. But what we will decide in terms of a new defense investment plan, a new NATO norm, that's of course a political decision which we will further discuss. There you go. So Elon Musk-

What is it? That's fine and dandy, all that stuff, but how does this affect the relationship within the EU, which is all pro-immigration? Well, that's why Wilders is counting on his, what we call the Achterbaumom or the everyone in the back who is all going to rise up and vote for it. Yeah but again the question I'll ask it again.

How does that affect the relationship of the Netherlands within the EU? It'll be horrible of course. Because the EU's worked with Hungary which refuses to take any immigrants at all. He will be labeled a Nazi. He will be labeled a dictator. He will be labeled all of these things. Far right, ultra far right. I don't know what they'll make of it.

Oh, yeah. No, of course not. This is, but this is why the Dutch voted for him in the first place. They're sick of it. I've said this before, they're sick of it. But they have no voice. And he just didn't have enough power, enough votes. Talk to the Swedes, for example, which have the same problem. Don't rise up. I don't see the Swedes being more passive than the Dutch. Although the Dutch were world conquerors, they were big shots

in the 1600s. They did give up their bikes within 24 hours. Yeah, that's true. That is a classic no agenda callback, by the way. Yeah, that's a good one. Elon Musk just tweeted. You ready for this? Oh, now we're going to the tweet wars.

Time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT. That is a good one. That's awesome. Well, actually that may be, if you're going to, if we're going to go with the thesis or you are at least, and I am not in total disagreement with the thesis that this is a bull crap play.

We're watching, we're witnessing a staged play. Yes. This would be the rationale for rolling out all the Epstein files. Bingo. To prove Musk wrong. Of course. He's in on it. In fact, it may be Trump having Musk do this because he knows he's not in the files, but he's a little...

Trump himself, I believe this could be a possibility. Trump himself is irked with Pam bondage for sitting on these files. Yep, and now they got to come out because he has to prove he's not in them. Everything will be released. Everything, every last drop. You know, speaking of such, there is, you want to hear some Hill Country gossip? No, do I want it? This is all I do the show. The only reason I'm still doing the show is because of this. Four more years of this. As long as I stay in Fredericksburg, we're good to go.

The ladies had a lunch the other day. The ladies had a lunch. You had the ladies lunch? Am I a lady? No! This is ladies who lunch. Well how did you get wind of it? My wife is my shoe. Oh she is in the ladies lunch. Of course she is. Everybody wants Tina Curry at their party. You have a mole. Yes, I do. And she'll sit right there and say, Adam's going to talk about this. And I think they like it. Most people like to be talked about. And these are successful women, women who have had successful careers.

This one actually still has a successful career. And here's what she said. World War III is coming. World War III is coming, because all the names, everything's going to come out and they need a distraction. So let's have a nuclear war instead of distract us from who's on the list. Wow, what logic. I love it. I love the ladies who lunch. This is the best, man.

I mean, I used to have to search for this stuff. Now it just gets hand delivered. And now it just comes right to you. It's dropped in your lap. I know, it's the easiest work ever. It's fantastic. Now this, I think you're bang on about this. This is the perfect setup.

And now we have to release it all. And that does mean some names will come out. Now will that necessitate World War III? I don't know. I doubt. I highly doubt it. Everybody likes- I think Bono's on there though.

Bono? Bono. He was just on Rogan. I haven't watched it yet, but he was on Rogan. Bono's on there though. Bono? Bono. He was just on Rogan. I haven't watched it yet, but he was on Rogan. Bono's all over the place. He's trying to, he's, he's, he's creating screens. He's, he's good. His Bono is all of a sudden appearing because it turns out that Bono is on the flight logs at least five times under some name.

Oh, really? There's some pictures of him floating around in memes. I didn't put it in the newsletter because I did things. Really? Of all the people Bono. Huh. Well, that's interesting. That's what accounts for a lot of Bono's appearances. Hmm. And he shows up on Rogan. What? Yeah. I saw that. Yeah.

Yeah. That's interesting. So I think this is, yeah, it's possible that this is all a one-two punch and it's all orchestrated between Trump and Musk. And it makes more, and it would get picked up by the media because it looks as though they're having a feud. Yeah. And the media hates Trump to such an extreme

that they're gonna. Oh, here it is, breaking news. Justin, new war of words erupts between Trump and Musk. Big ugly battle, says Fox. Oh man. It's a quad. Oh, Fox is a sucker for it too. BBC, BBC, Trump and Musk, Spar and public fallout.

It's all on the quads, John. It's everywhere. It's burning my retinas. It all on the quads, John. It's everywhere. It's burning my retinas. It's on the quads. So talking about Fox being in the, you know, we heard that clip that we played a few times ago about the, I forgot, it was Tucker interviewing somebody and they mentioned that Fox is really a bunch of liberals and you always like to say- Yeah, it's run by Democrats.

Yeah. And you always like to say, yes, wrong by Democrats. Yeah. Here's a clip mentioning Fox of the five. This is the waters clipped at the bottom. This is from the five. And this is a, uh, the end of show, they do some letters to the, they do letters, they read letters. And the question is what would you do if you were a scammer and you were gonna scam somebody and now It goes to Waters about what were you gonna do if you're gonna scam somebody he has this this kind of crazy tale

Gutfeld's on the show says it. Oh, this is meta And the end of the story give you the headline so you can follow it. Waters says, well, if I was gonna scam somebody, I'd pretend to be a conservative and then work my way up the ladder and get my own TV show and then stay there and never mention it to anybody. Wait, wait, wait, I gotta do the whole thing.

And so Gutfeld says that's meta, If you are, oh sorry. Wait, wait, wait. I got to do the whole thing. And so Gutfeld says that's meta, meaning it refers to something that's actually going on at Fox. And then he says it's meta-meta because Shannon Bream is sitting right next to Waters. She's the one this is targeted at and Gutfeld kind of hints at that when he asked her the same question next and she's really good. Shannon Bream I've always believed because I've gotten evidence of her not being a big supporter of Trump. She's a beauty

queen in every sense of the word but I've never thought she was a conservative. And she, I think she's the phony they're talking about. Listen to this. If you were, this is from Frenchie, if you were a con artist, what would your scam be? Jesse? I would pretend to be conservative, and then I would get on television and dress really nicely nicely and then I would just climb the corporate ladder until I had a show and then just stay there for as long as I could. Very convincing. That was so meta that it's actually meta meta.

Shannon, you would pretend to be a very religious. Somebody who could actually cook. Yes, somebody who actually loves the Bible, reads it, writes about it. You could be a Satanist that's rising up. No, I could not. I could not. No, I would try to convince people that I can cook. Ha ha ha! Shannon Breen. Oh, Shannon. She's meta-meta.

Okay, can I just say... Yeah, go ahead. Oh, Shannon. She's meta-meta. Okay, can I just say, yeah, go ahead. No, nothing. I just thought, I found that to be revealing. They wanted to get it off their chest. Shannon was at the table that day. She's not a normal person. She's not normally on the five. It's usually the other one.

Can't remember her name offhand. The blondie? Blondie, yes. one can't remember her name offhand the blondie who wanted the blood it's blondie yes yeah the one that used to be Bush's secretary I can't remember her name yeah McEnany no no no no that's the other no no no no all right it's ridiculous but I can't remember her name but she's very good. Perina. Dana Perino. Perino. Dana Perino. Perina. Perina.

Puerina. Dana Perino. Anyway, so she's usually there. So Shannon comes on once in a while and they mention when he, when Water says it and she's all, and he says this person's always going to be really well dressed. Shannon on that table was dressed to the tens. I don't know what she was wearing, but it was high end. It's just so obvious that they were giving, I'm surprised that she doesn't go

to the HR about that situation. Can I just say- I'm doing you a favor by working here. I don't think she said anything. My eyes are, I got problems with my eyes because now of the quad box, two of them have quad boxes in the quad box all talking about it's a multi quad box. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning

to you, the man who put the C's in the COVID vaccine access. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only Mr. John C. DeVorent. other end the one the only mr. John C. DeVorent Good morning, the morning of the year, my son, I'm going to show you the sea boots and raffy and the air subs in the water of the Dames and the nights out there. Good morning to the trolls in the troll room, let me count to first like a million. 1750, 50 low. We're below average. We're way beyond. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Say it. Go ahead. My goodness. What you're expecting me to say is because the first hour of the show. Yep. That's what I'm expecting you to say. Nah.

The trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io. That's where you can listen live and troll along, it's ephemeral. So it doesn't matter what you do, it just scrolls right off. Did you use the word ephemeral? Is that not the correct term? No, I think it was a good word, but it just stuns me that you'd say that out of the blue like that. Well, if I had a British accent, would it stun you less? It is completely ephemeral, what's happening in the trail room.

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Pop water. Pop water? Yeah, hop water. Oh, hop water. I thought you said pop water. Pop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. And, what is it? Like, people are just complaining.

No, what are they complaining about? I don't know. They're trolls. That's what they do. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, exactly are they complaining? I don't know. They're trolls. That's what they do. Exactly how they sound. That's exactly what they sound like. Take the mic off. I did take the mic off.

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and built most of it. I gotta give him props. Sir Alex Gates jumped in, built all these different pieces. It's a whole cacophony of his orchestra of people putting this stuff together. Nobody owns this. It's on an actual blockchain. Anybody can use it, any podcast app, many hosting companies, hundreds of thousands of podcasts are using this. But will Silicon Valley ever use it? No, because it's not invented here. Within 90 seconds of posting, you get your new podcast. That's what I'm saying. Podcastapps.com. In our value for value model, which we diligently employ,

the podcast industrial complex, all they talk about is stats and first party data. What? Stats. Stats. And first party data. And we have to know more about who's listening, who click play, how long they're listening for. First party data is what we need. The apps need to be reporting on everybody because they can't justify downloads to people actually listening, particularly not from there it is again, the legacy apps, Apple auto downloads, it auto downloads. What's the other one? Not overcast, also auto downloads. And that's fine. That's what podcast apps were supposed to do. But then they try to shoehorn this advertising model in it and it doesn't work. And like, well, there's an outrage when you first party data. So we don't look at stats we just make sure we can

pay the rent that's what we've been running it for set more than 17 years it's all we care about value given value received yeah you know we probably could make more by scamming easily oh man I could create downloaders you can you can pay companies to do that it There's entire, I've seen videos of these farms in China where they just have thousands of secondhand cell phones all in racks, like stacked next to each other like loaves of bread. And it's professional. They all have a USB cable going into a port, and all they're doing is scamming.

It's sold to you as as these are all bots. Nah, they're download scams. Trust me. That's what they're really doing. It's money. Money in the bank. I tell you money in the bank. No, instead we just give you the show.

I've been giving you the show for over 17 years. If you get anything out of it, you send the back to us. It's called value for value. It's very simple. How much is up to you? Whatever you want to do is up to you. We thank everybody. We close that loop by mentioning everyone

with their numbers, whatever they sent us because numerology is important. $50 or above. Under that, we've kept that cap. People wanna remain anonymous and make sure we don't screw it up because that's what we'll do inevitably. We'll dock you for sure if we're not careful.

So under 50, we just don't read now as part of our Hollywood gamble and Gambit we've created gamble. It's a gamble. It's a great gamble We've created actual credits which are just as valid as Hollywood credits with the executive producer or associate executive producer Before we get to that some people support us with time and talent Time and talent comes in many different ways, organizing meetups, setting up websites, doing all kinds of stuff for us. And it's the artists, the artists who have consistently delivered fantastic work for us, which always delights people by showing you something on social media, it shows up in

your podcast app. What is this? Oh, it's no agenda again. By the way, I think I see an email about this because I heard you and Andrew Horowitz talking about it on DHUMPLUG, which is a great podcast if you want to hear two guys talk about stocks and economics and meta analysis and other odd things like AI art. You listen to that podcast live on Tuesday evenings, but it drops right after that. So Wednesday is when people usually get it.

And again, you were complaining about the levels of white and just the levels of color in general in AI generated art. And we're seeing it on our art generator, noagendaartgenerator.com. Yeah, I got another note from Onimus. Yes. You were rude to him if I can, you don't mind me saying. I was probably gruff. It was your typical. I told him it was, I was good to hear from him.

I tried to be nice. You were rude. You do this with people. It's just that my... I'm running interference for you here because I know you. This used to send me into a tailspin. I'm like, Kevora is such a douche. I hate him. I'm quitting the show.

Now rage quit. Now I'm like, it's just John. Whatever. People forward me. He says I was He accused me of being skeptical about something Hold on a second. You see you think everything's an accusation. You are the one with the long You've got you nailed it. Yeah, this is the understanding my response to everything. I see everything as an accusation. Yep.

Yes, it's really interesting. Yeah, I picked this up as a writer. Is that what, is that where it's from? Yeah. Uh, here, color space. Here. Your response was amazing. Skeptical of what? I did that, I, there's no tonal in the there's no

Mean-looking emoji or anything. There's no emoji with a mean face When you started what I said it was this way. This is the way it was presented. I'm skeptical of what? No, there's no I'm so this is your problem. Okay skeptical of what? Skeptical of what I'm just asking. I'm not skeptical of what? Well, I'm going to try and explain it to you. Remember, netiquette? Do you remember netiquette? No, you don't because netiquette was never in your etiquette. When someone emails you a very thoughtful and someone says, John, I'm interested in the reason for your skepticism so I can learn more. So when you don't say, Hi, Onimus, thanks for being such a great supporter and once again contributing to the conversation.

Skeptical of what? No. Skeptical of what? I'm just helping you, brother. It's okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah brother, yeah. Keep going. Keep going. So I had a thought. It's like all of a sudden it hit me. I know why the art is getting less luminous and why there's no whites and there's no dark, no blacks. This is entropy. AI is ingesting its own stuff and it's like making a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. And this was of course brought up on the on the DHM Plug show. Oh, it was?

Because, because, yeah, we brought it up because Horowitz is, you know, he uses AI to create the art for the show and he's real proud of it. He's real proud of it. You pooped all over him right away. You think this is good? No, you're right about that one. Well, I was a little, I was probably, that was yes. Okay. I mean, I'll accept that one.

Hey, it's Tuesday night. You don't really want to do the show at all. You want to do it, but when it's not Tuesday night, you could have other things to do, there's sports ball to to watch I get it, but you're committed But you're committed you're committed guy in in in all these years 1770 episodes you've always showed up except for one time you were late because your analog alarm clock didn't change time with a daylight savings time Well, I don't remember that but I generally speaking, punctual is the word.

You are punctual. Yes, you are. Yes, I didn't find the art to be that compelling that he would be happy about it, but we did bring up the muddiness and it was muddy. It was all this one tone of brown. Right, but what you didn't discuss, this is entropy. This is the beginnings of model collapse. And I think that's exactly what we're seeing,

particularly with the free stuff, people using free stuff. They're like, I'm gonna have to give that model to those guys. And I wonder if our AI prompt jockeys, if they're seeing that as well, because it's very apparent to us. Everything's getting fuzzier.

There's just the colors aren't vibrant. And maybe that's why people are resorting to making cartoonish artwork, because holy moly, there's a lot of it. But first- Let it wait before you go on. No, I want to thank our artists. We haven't thanked our artists yet. Well, before you go on. No, I want to thank our artists. We haven't thanked our artists yet.

Well, before you thank the artists even, because you brought all these sidebars. And I apologize to anonymous for being a jerk. Good. By your standards and probably by his. Yeah. Not that he's emailed me or anything. Like, what's up with John?

Yeah, what's wrong with this guy? Here's a note from Darren Oh, oh about flux context He says ITM I haven't had a chance to play with the new flux model yet But the existing ones were quite impressive at creating realistic images the context mod This is the tip of the day for the last show. Oh yeah. And I asked Darren to look at it and he's already very familiar with all this stuff going on.

He says that, of course, the context model really seems to shine with image modifications, which is like I mentioned taking somebody's head and putting it on somebody else's head. This will make it much harder for people to distinguish between what is real and what isn't. If you want to frame someone, what's that in your mouth, and you have an image of a room in their home from a family snapshot, you can get instant believability. Wow, instant believability. I'll let you know once more,

but once I dig in, but for now, I say it's a pretty good tip of the day. Well, I think this is time for the bonus clip. Or maybe not. No, yes. This is a very, very big deal. Facebook parent Meta Platforms has announced that it is going into a 20 year deal with nuclear power provider Constellation energy for a steady flow of electricity to power its AI

data centers and that deal follows a similar tie-up between Constellation and Microsoft involving the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant also for Microsoft's AI ambitions and these commitments highlight big tech's insatiable need for electricity to fuel AI. In fact enough juice to power a small city and on top of that AI facilities require enormous amounts of water to cool the equipment because they're just running full throttle all the time. Now what the big tech wants you to focus on is the benefits that could come from AI, how

society could change as productivity improves and as it becomes infinitely easier to create memes that you can post on Instagram and Facebook. On the other hand, this is an industry that is all but reinvigorating the nuclear power industry, which was once pretty much on the ropes as other fuel sources were found, and now big tech is bringing nuclear power back in a big way.

So on the one hand, what we have here is memes. On the other hand, Three Mile Island. You figure it out. There you go. Memes versus Three Mile Island you figure it out there you go memes versus Three Mile Island and our art and our art that's right by the way it's called now Fox is calling it the big ugly battle Darren O'Neill brought us the artwork for episode 1769 we titled that Mr. Umami that's right remember that everybody um? Umami, mouth feel. And we had some debate about this. And I have a, I came up with a thesis that you agreed with.

Okay. So the, so first of all, it was a cartoonish depiction of a lorry driving into Russia with a shed and a little happy drone smiling out of the back, which the whole idea was good. Your objection, which was valid, as it said, created by Curry and Dvorak. And that of course is not true. It is not anything we don't use that byline, but we still decided on using it. You have a thesis. Use that byline. Yeah. But we still decided on using it. You have a thesis.

Yes. Uh, cause I, the piece I wanted was rapid human cloning, which was another cute piece by digital two, one, one, two. Yeah. Yeah. I remember this. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. This is Darren O'Neill's, uh, alter ego. Yes. Digital two, one, one man is Darren O'Neill and alter ego. Yes. Digital 211 man is Darren O'Neill. And somebody out there, I figured in the chat room, the troll room could figure out digital 211 man that's code for Darren O'Neill somehow. Yeah.

This is Darren O'Neill's style. Yes. His sense's style. Yes. It's his sense of humor. Yep. Everything about digital 211 man is Darren O'Neill. Yeah. He's producing too much material. Yeah, we're outing you.

We're outing you Darren O'Neill. He's producing too much material to try to win every show and he's decided that because it would look ridiculous and Darren O'Neill Darren O'Neill like he's cranking this stuff out the code has already been cracked is Darren O'Neill a fan of Rush has he played Rush on his pre-show? Yes, he has. 2112. That is code for the band Rush. Interesting.

Could be. Could be. So, we've determined that this is Darren O'Neill. Or, or, or, AI has gone rogue and has cloned Darren O'Neill. That's possible. This is also very possible. It's figured AI is so dangerous that it's figured out how to be just like Darren and is registered to no agenda art generator. It's going to take over.

So the obviously the type of prompts, this is like a art detection where you, you find the who's the, who's the forged, where's the forged piece? What makes it forge? What makes it fake? You can do this. This is something you do if you're a hobbyist. And this is what I have determined. I think you're right. It's obvious. So Darren come clean and we'll let you off the hook. Yeah. If not, we'll still...

Yeah, if not, the digital 2112 man has to reveal himself. Yes, yes, he must... And I don't want to hear from some phony baloney, as Darren's neighbor. Darren, what's me? Yeah, yeah, there was a lot... I mean, it is quite obvious. And it's all very cartoony. And when you see the piece that we chose by Darren, I mean, it's, it's, it is quite obvious and it's all very cartoony. It's kind of like, and you know,

and when you see the piece that we chose by Darren and then you see the digital two one, two, you know, blue Acorn, maybe Darren as well for all I know, it just may all be Darren. Blue Acorn has a slightly different style. Blue Acorn has a dimensionality to his art that Darren never has in terms of shading. Well, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it never has in terms of shading. Well, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. Stop it. You can't do anything about it. It's too late.

I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of it. I tell you. All right. Thank you very much, Darren. We love you, brother. I said brother again. There you go. You're on this brother thing. Well, you have to understand. Better than dude. Yeah. Well, this is because, uh Better than dude. Yeah. Well, it's because I have a hard time remembering names. You know, on the show, like I always we always have nicknames for people. We can't like Dana, Dana, Purina. What are we Purina? Purina. We will always remember Dana Purina because we can't we can't remember. I can't

remember these these. By the way, do you still use Prevagen? Prevagen? Didn't you say? I've never used Prevagen. I remember you telling me that you use it for short-term memory. No, no, B12. Oh, just B12. I got to tell my neighbor this.

I told him the wrong thing. What is Prevagen for? It's some sort of squid no I thought you used Previgen when you were driving up to Washington in an EV no no no no no you're thinking about it the the drug Pro Vigil Pro Vigil oh man I told him the wrong thing Tina Pro Vigil that's the stuff you want that oh Oh, I gotta tell him. Oh man. No Previgil is just a bullshit Okay, yeah Pro Vigil keeps your wake sharp. This is what the fighter pilots use. Sharpest attack This would fire your pilots use if they have a long mission so they don't get drowsy

Okay Previgil. Pro Vigil. It's like Vigilant Pro, you're Pro Vigilant. Pro Vigil. Pro Vigil. Got it. That's a prescription drug. Oh, he'll get it.

Pro Vigil. Thank you. Appreciate that. Anyway, now to thank our executive. I just remembered I forgot to ask you the question. I'd better ask it now since I need Pro Vigil. What are you talking about? Here we go. Executive, associate, executive producers. Here's the deal. You support the show with $200 or above. You become an associate executive producer. That credit is good anywhere in the world of show business,

particularly IMDB is where people prove it. And we'll read your note. $300 above you get an executive producer credit. It's good for a lifetime. It never goes away. And we will read your note and we kick it off with Commodore Archduke, which now is the acronym, acronym CAD. Commodore Archduke from Winter Park, Florida. Show number donation. Whoa, we haven't had that in a long time. 1770 show number donation, aka Blofeld donation from Commodore Archduke of Central Florida. Great stuff guys. Thanks for clarifying the media for us. Five, six more years. All right. Thank you. Oh, I was going to say the brother thing. I was going to explain it. So I can't remember names. But the good thing is

when you're saved, when you become a Christian, you just call everybody brother. I walk into the church Sunday like, hey, brother, how you doing, brother? Hey, brother. You can do that if you're a Hulk Hogan does the same thing. He's also, he's saved. He just you're Hulk Hogan does the same thing. Yeah, I don't know, it's like religiousness. He's also, he's saved. He's just got baptized, Hulk Hogan. He just got baptized, but he's been saying brother for at least 25 years.

Sure, but I'm not Hulk Hogan and I'm not a wrestler and I don't have a sex tape. So, but I have an excuse now. There's a sex tape? Oh, ooh, you don't remember that? I never knew. Yes, you remember the big... I'm going to confess something.

I have never seen a sex tape, one of these sex tapes. You've never seen the Kim Kardashian and Ray J tape? Nope. Nope. No, you're missing something. What am I missing? A lot. Okay.

It puts her in a whole new light. A lot. Okay. It puts a whole, it puts her in a whole new light. And then the Paris Hilton one is just as good. Cause she's actually on her phone. While it's taking place. Yeah. I'm reliably informed. Well, that's a, she's a multi-tasker. She is.

All right. Thank you very much, Commodore Archduke. Okay. Brian Luther is up next. He's in Grosse. Blake Luther. What did I say? Brian.

Brian Luther. Just call him Brother Luther. I'm sorry. Blake Luther. Just call him Brother Luther. It's all good. Brother Luthor. And I can't even.

Grosse. And I'm all over the map. In Grosse Pointe Shores Michigan which is a horrible place I guess because it's gross a thousand bucks another another doctor look PhD please knight me sir horse meds I bet she's a vet. Uh, scenario. Please do me. You've been D dosed. Cause he's been a horrible douche bag for way too long. He says,

he comes in with a thousand bucks. He's no longer a douche bag. That's for sure. And he says, sure. He says big thank you for all the value. All right. Thank you very much. I like these really pricey donations and the very two line notes. That's how it always goes. This is part of the model. We learned it a long time ago. Preston Isaacson, straight to our associate executive producers with a row of ducks. What? We don't have any executive producers? Except for these first two.

Wow. 2222.22 Yak Karma for sure. Don't remember if there's relationship karma, but if there is one of those, please give it to me after Yak. No need to read this on the air. Thanks guys.

Well, we already did it and I'll give you the relationship too. You've got Karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. There you go. Yak and relationship karma. One after another. Real weird. Yep.

I find it screwy. And we're already the Eli the Coffee guy. He's in Bensonville, Illinois. He came in with 206.05. You'd appreciate him because you're laced with coffee today. If humanity used its technological might for advancement of civilization and society, he writes, we might actually have landed on the moon by now. We might have landed on the moon by now.

Nah, no, no, no. Instead, our use of technology is focused on destruction, subjugation, or beard and circus. What? Or beard and circuses. Okay. I pray one day we'll find a better way. There is one fantastic use for technology I can think of. Ordering fresh roasted coffee off the internet. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your coffee today. Stay caffeinated, Eli the coffee guy.

So I opened up the bag of Ethiopian black bag. He's got this one line of expensive ones. And I believe this to be pea berries. And I would like to have him correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like pea berries to me. I think it's, I think that's correct. Pea berries. And I don't know why he doesn't promote that because pea berries are a thing. You skipped Matthew Martell, but I will go back and thank him for his $210.60 donation

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Karma as this donation will allow God bless you all all right well that calls for a goat. I think you've got Karma That brings us to our last associate executive producer, $200. It comes from Linda Lu Patkin who asked for Jobs Karma and says, for a resume that showcases your unique value proposition, tells a compelling career story and highlights your standout accomplishments, visit ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc. with a K and work with... I know she listened to us, didn't she? And work with Linda Lu, Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes.

She makes you so- Screwed up the tagline. Well, we'll never hear it in the edit. She makes you shine. Hey boys, thanks for the sage advertising. Jobs, jobs jobs jobs and jobs Now Linda John and I did discuss you after the last show ever said sage advertising council I'm sorry

That's what she wrote. Usually says sage advertising I'm sorry? That's what she wrote. Usually it says Sage Advertising. No, she says... I'm reading the copy. No, but you left out the word Council. Oh, because it didn't fit on the spreadsheet. Thanks for the Sage Advertising Council.

Love you, mean it. I'm sorry. Stupid. I denounce Excel. I'm getting off this nonsense. I'm using Excel and. I denounce Excel. I'm getting off this nonsense. I'm using Excel and it's on mine. Yeah, it's a crapshoot. I still think...

Correct. Yes. Well, there's that. Well, and you know what's popping up? The little copilot thing is now... I'm going to hit the copilot. Oh, Clippy. Ask copilot.

Ask copilot. Clippy. I'm going to ask copilot. I'm going to ask copilot. Okay. Copilot. I'm gonna ask copilot. Here, I'm gonna ask copilot. Okay, copilot. Where do I ask? I don't want auto save. I wanna ask you a question.

This is a nightmare, don't do it. I wanna ask copilot a question. How can I ask copilot a question? It won't ask. Turn on auto save. I don't wanna do that. I wanna ask you a question. Stupid, okay, copilot doesn't even. say what I don't want to do that I want to ask you a question stupid okay

copilot doesn't even I still think for a resume that gets results was a great line that's just my personal opinion it went viral people were using it and then you know to change it to for a resume that showcases your unique value proposition tells I am going to agree with you on this. So I just think. I think it's snappier. Yep. And she should go back to it.

She's already gone back to the dot inc with a K. Yeah. Which is a good one. Yes. Which is clarification, which is always a good way. You should always have clarification. Always good. But a snappy, snappy little ditty

is better than one that's lengthy. Yes. As witnessed by the first hour of the show. Ha ha ha ha! Ah! He got it in. I was waiting for it to come, but there it is. Well, you got me nailed.

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Five minutes. Five minute warning. Well, it is pride month. In case you wanted to talk about pride month. I don't have any pride month clips. I do have one TikTok clip. You ridiculed me for having TikTok clips. I only have one. I didn't have any last show. Why don't you do your TikTok clip and then I'll do my pride month clips. There's a thing going around and this TikTok clip epitomizes it called hoax etymologies.

Hoax etymology. Is that like deconstruction of hoaxes? No, no. Hoax etymology. In other words, you come up with a fake etymology of a word and it goes viral and it's usually done, the whole hoax is created by somebody else and you're a sucker, you buy into it and then you go out and you post about it. And this particular one, which is the use of the word picnic, is elucidated in Snopes as a hoax, an etymological hoax.

And this woman, a black woman, another one of the lecturers that like to lecture white people, uh, will reveal what the, what the, she will reveal this, this, this is going around, play it. Here's a list of words to help you decolonize your summer. And like with anything, I like this already. This morning I woke up, you know what I thought? My first thought was I need to decolonize my summer.

It just won't be the same. Here's a list of words to help you decolonize your summer. And like with anything our vocabulary evolves. It isn't about being woke, it's about elevating your vernacular to fit the times and the paradigm that we're in. So welcome. First, stop saying picnic.

Picnic originated from pick a N word. The word picnic originated in the 1700s, but gained popularity once people enjoyed lynching black people and spreading a nice charcuterie board along the trees as people were being lynched. Instead of using the word picnic, why don't you use barbecue, outing, you can use outdoor excursion, gathering, rendezvous, what have you? Make it up. Just know that every time you use that word you are perpetuating the history of lynching.

I think I recall Mo and I discussing this at some point. I don't think it's true. No, it's not true. The word came in the 1600s, not the 1700s. It has nothing to do with lynching. It was a French word. It had nothing to do with the N word or anything in between. This is bogus. This is a fake etymological hoax. And she bought into it and the, according to at least Snopes and others, is that this is done to show how stupid people are. And anyone who follows up by bringing this into the lexicon,

it just proves that they're an idiot. And it's done specifically targeting people that are susceptible to this sort of nonsense. To show that they're dumb and they're stupid. That's interesting. Just on this TikTok for a second. TikTok has announced something which I think is amazing. It shows they are, they come from a very different place than all of the big tech platforms. And in fact, it may even encourage you to load the TikTok app on your phone

after you take it out of the drawer and charge it. You know, the phone I have, I don't know what technology they're using for the battery, but I can leave that phone in the drawer for months and it's still fully charged. Well, what apps do you have on it? None. That's the whole reason why these phones are running out of juice is because of all the spying and spurning and reporting and all the stuff it's doing under the hood. Listen to this. Now to some big changes for social media giant TikTok.

It's launching new self-care tools designed to give users more control over their content experience. The announcement was made exclusively on Good Morning America. The new features include managed topics, which is a setting that allows users to adjust how often they see content from more than 10 popular categories, including travel, nature, sports, and creative arts. Also included is an enhanced keyword filtering tool now powered by AI. Users can plug in up to 200 keywords of content they would prefer to avoid.

TikTok also introduced an updated safety center guide designed to help users better understand and customize their for you feed. Now, of course, you don't see the video with this, but they show the screen of it and there's six or seven sliders. They're literally letting you control your own algo, which is the one thing people actually want. This is remember, this is the secret sauce of TikTok. They're just saying, oh, here it is.

You control it. You want more dumb people who talk about dumb stuff. Who are clearly- See, this is why I don't want it on a phone and have the phone running because I'd be watching this all day. Yeah, that's exactly. It is the smartest thing I've seen from a from a social network for a long time I

think it's genius and they're gonna just blow past everybody with this mainly because They are social shopping. They're not based on strife and getting you angry and keeping you engaged They give you what you want getting you angry and keeping you engaged, they give you what you want. So just give people what they want. And if they're done with it, there's a sliding less cooking videos, more cooking videos. This is perfect. The cooking videos are just unbelievable. It all includes cheese. Everything.

Yes. Always. Yes. A lot of cheese. And they're always opening packages and dumping. I mean, just there's another thing that's always in a can or some sort of a some sort of plastic wrap and it goes in. If it comes in a bag or has a barcode, it is to be avoided is my motto. Here's NPR's morning edition to remind us that June is Pride Month. World Pride is underway here in Washington, D.C. The International Festival celebrating all things LGBTQ has taken place in Copenhagen, London, and Sydney. But as NPR's Elizabeth Blair reports, attendance and sponsorships are down this year. World Pride D.C. has been going on since mid-May.

Ryan Boss, executive director of Capital Pride Alliance, says they've organized some 300 events across the city. Dance parties, a film festival, family activities like Drag Story Hour, and events for milk. That was the best line. Family activities like. Dance parties, a film festival, family activities like drag story hour. Come on kids, let's go to drag story hour. It's time for a Saturday outing. What? Now where was this? This is NPR? NPR Morning Edition.

And this is, they, so they've normalized drag story hour as a family activity on NPR. Family time. ...film festival, family activities like Drag Story Hour, and events for military personnel. But Boss says the Trump administration's anti-drag and trans policies and rhetoric have had a chilling effect. A lot of our service members are being forced back in the closet because they're afraid of being who they are at their work, and that is just extremely disheartening.

People from around the world travel to world pride festivals, but this year Boss says hotel bookings are below what they were expecting. Sponsorships are also down. Past DC Pride sponsors including Booz Allen Hamilton and Comcast didn't come back this year. They did not return NPR's request for comment. Ooh, the money's drying up. Gee, that is a problem. Companies, I think, overall are in a very tough spot. Luke Hardig is president of Gravity Research, which recently surveyed roughly 200 Fortune 1000 companies

about their Pride sponsorships. He says more than a third of them plan to decrease their Pride support this than a third of them plan to decrease their pride support this year. Many of them do business with the federal government. Federal contractors are in a particularly precarious place when it comes to pride because pride is so closely integrated into broader DEI efforts. And when it comes to the administration's power to regulate DEI in the private sector, their powers are probably at their greatest when it comes to federal contractors. And I think for a lot of companies,

celebrating pride just comes a little too close to the danger zone. It's like, really? Get a clue. This was always pandering. No one cared about you in the corporate world. It was pandering. It's a hard pill to swallow. Pride festivals are by their nature political. That community includes the more than 200- What? Pride festivals are by their nature political?

I thought it was just to celebrate yourself and your- Well, we're learning something new from NPR. Pride festivals are... Wait, I'm sorry, the second thing we've learned, the other one is that dragged story hour is a family activity. Pride festivals are, by their nature, political. That community includes the more than 250 singers in the Gay Men's Chorus of Washington.

The chorus was scheduled to perform at the Kennedy Center with the National Symphony Orchestra in May during World Pride. But shortly after President Trump announced he would take over the institution, the chorus was informed that the event would not take place. The orchestra told NPR the concert was postponed for financial and scheduling reasons, not because it was a Pride event. Thea Cano, artistic director of the chorus, says it was disappointing. You know, nobody wants to be canceled or feel like they've been canceled, but that's why right away I thought, well, we cannot be silenced. Music is our protest. We are resilient. But we were not the only ones, they can hear you.

They can hear you. The Gay Men's Chorus of Washington organized an international choral festival for World Pride. The organization says some choirs from abroad pulled out because of the tension in Washington. A big closing ceremony... Is that the proverbial pulling out of the church before singing? I'm just trying to say... Pulling out. The organization says some choirs from abroad pulled out because of the tension in Washington.

A big closing ceremony for World Pride DC takes place this weekend. There's a parade and concerts featuring Jennifer Lopez, Cynthia Arrevo and Dochi. JLo is performing. And goat cheese? Was that the last word? Goat cheese. JLo and goat. Hey, I don't want to say too much, but I started this show with the most boring topic. You despised me for it because it was it was you're exaggerating my my my Critique

It wasn't top of mind. No one cared about it. But somehow you're looking at the four monitors right now and that's all they're talking about and Thank God. Well, listen, am I right? Yes, but this is what's so great about it. Because now the conversations moved from Trump is in the Epstein files to he would have never been elected without me. His tariffs will cause a recession and we should impeach him. And without our at the beginning of the show, which people will hear saying this is a gambit, this is a scam, this is all set up. Now the no agenda people will be calm. Mission accomplished.

Well, I'm glad you like to pat yourself on the back. I'm not going to argue against it. It's possible you're right. What? I'm what? Yeah. So I have a couple of those short clips. All right. I want to play this one just so I can get my little rant out of the way. This is the AI comment from... this is Killmead on Fox News making a comment that I want to make some some statement about. Okay, kill me. How do you juggle that with the emerging AI that could really hurt blue collar Americans as they begin to take the jobs and even some white collar Americans? Is this a really high

wire act for Republicans to manage? All right, rant away. a high wire act for Republicans to manage. All right, rant away. AI is going to take away, if it's going to take away jobs, it's going to take away white collar bureaucrat jobs, blue collar, plumbers and electricians and carpenters. AI is not going to have any effect whatsoever on the blue collar. And I mentioned this on the DH unplugged show. If any kids out there want to make sure that they have a job forever, get into the trades. If you want an education, sure, go get your degree in social sciences or history or whatever.

And you can say you're educated, but become a welder. AI is not going to replace welders. No, that was a very short rant. Well, it wasn't much to it, but I'm just saying, you can't say that AI is gonna take away blue collar jobs. No, of course not. I don't think it's gonna take away that many white collar jobs either.

I think it's gonna take away a lot of white collar jobs. It's already taken away the jobs of, look at the spot art that we're using. I mean, this, that's a white collar job. Yeah, but, right. But, but that's more an advancement like Photoshop did that. And then people became really good at Photoshop and now you have, and now you have, and now you're right.

And not Photoshop took away a lot of art. I can't create what Darren O'Neill creates. You have to have talent to operate these tools. Yes. You gotta have the talent. So you might as well, and that's what people should. What if it's a job that needs no talent whatsoever? Paper pusher.

Like podcaster? No, you know, you can say that as a joke, but I'm not worried that AI, we've heard AI trying to do podcasts. All they do is a deep dive and they make mistakes. Well, but AI can't do law because it hallucinates. It can't do marketing because it sucks. It's too wordy. It can't write. It can't write novels, the songs. Where's my number one hit on the Billboard chart from an AI song? No, it can't do any of that. No, it's not coming. It's not going to happen.

You need a living person to gyrate on stage. It just doesn't happen. Now, if you listen to CBS Mornings, the Wall Street Journal, I guess the tech editor. Oh no, let me just tell you, AI, it's going to take over the world, baby. My talk on the table is how AI is learning to escape human control. That's the very scary headline I saw on the Wall Street Journal. It's an essay written by a very worried AI consultant named Judd Rosenblatt, who cites two recent studies to argue that AI is in fact learning to escape human control.

First, this is crazy stuff. Researchers gave open AI's 03 model a simple script that would shut off the model when triggered. In 79 of a hundred trials the AI model independently just on its own edited the script so the shutdown command would not work. Nate, Nate, Nate, it gets worse. Even when ordered allow yourself to shut down the AI still disobeyed seven percent of the time and it gets even more frightening than that. Other researchers, listen to this, using Anthropix AI model Claude for Opus Told the model it would be replaced by another AI system It then fed fictitious emails into the system suggesting one of the engineers was having an affair

Got it in 84% of the test the AI model drew on the emails to blackmail the Engineer to not shut down the AI model. What? What? What? Okay, so here, I'm quoting now from Judd. In other cases, the AI model attempted to copy itself onto external servers,

we're in Mission Impossible land here, wrote self-replicating malware and left messages for future versions of itself about the need to evade Human control the entity And that's why so many people and when I say people me are worried about AI I'm worried So what they forget or I'm glad I'm glad, I'm actually glad you got this clip. But they're omitting some key information. A lot, they're omitting everything.

Go ahead. We had, this was a dinner table conversation with J.C. who is deep into A.I. and he says this is all the equivalent of writing on a piece of paper, I'm alive, and then giving it to a copy machine, and it comes out, says I'm alive, and you it to a copy machine and it comes out says I'm alive And you assume the copying machine is alive because it said so Well even worse than that. This was a test that they did they they expressly

Exposed to the AI this so-called email Of an affair it wasn't true. They put it all in there. It was like a test that they did that just to psych everybody up and CBS of course falls for it. Like a bunch of nerds. AI is like working with a toddler with ADHD who has perfect syntax. Doesn't mean the toddler can write a novel.

Doesn't mean the toddler can create an application. It has perfect syntax. But it's like saying, I have a kitty litter box with a turd in it. Take the turd out. The kid will go, ah, go off to the beach, get some sand, throw it into a new box, bring it back, put the turd in the other box, and then it's done. I mean, it's, it is AI is inherently not intelligent.

It is stupid. Perfect at syntax. It's really good at it. Doesn't you need talent? You need almighty intelligence to use artificial intelligence. That's just it. Nothing to worry about. I think it will actually create more jobs.

It's not going to take away jobs. It will take away certain jobs that people can learn how to do other things. You had the perfect example. Learn to code. Learn to prompt. That's what it is. That's a bogus story. Totally bogus. It's a promotion. Promotion for Anthropic. That's all that it was. They probably paid for it. They did have a plug in there for Anthropic. I like that. They probably paid for it.

All right. I'll give you one or two more. It's all up to you. Okay. I can do Africa and China and Africa. You want to scare people off from the last few minutes of the show? Oh, good point. Okay.

Forget that. Yeah. How about the doofus? Oh, I'm not going to play that clip. Okay, forget that. Yeah. How about the do for those? I'm not gonna play that clip. Okay, I will play The attacks on referendums. This is a four-parter Maybe too long Up to you As long as you don't say how much time we have left. It's really none

All right, then I've Honestly, no, let me do it this way. Uh, John, we're almost at the end of time. Can you hurry along and play one more clip? Uh, okay, let's just play this then. This is a... Uh, huh. Now you got me cornered because I'm looking for a one line, one shot clip. I mean, I could just play maniacal laugh. I'll give you maniacal laugh as a bonus.

Okay. Now you get to play one more clip. Let's just go with the Russia Trump talksump talks update and they will be done. President Trump today speaking by phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The call comes after a series of high-profile attacks on Russia by Ukraine. Entities International correspondent Arian Pazdar has the details. President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had another phone call on Wednesday afternoon. Trump said, we discussed the attack on Russia's docked airplanes by Ukraine and also various other attacks that have been taking place by both sides.

Kiev recently used drones to strike several Russian air bases. Ukraine says it destroyed many of Russia's nuclear-capable bombers. And Ukraine also posted this video saying it attacked a bridge connecting Crimea to Russia. The rail and road bridge is a key supply route for Russian forces in Ukraine. According to Trump, it was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace. President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields. Special envoy to Russia and Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, tells Fox News that the attack could raise the risk of escalation.

And I'm telling you, the risk levels are going way up. I mean, what happened this weekend, people have to understand in the national security space, when you attack an opponent's part of their national survival system, which is their triad, the nuclear triad, that means your risk level goes up because you don't know what the other side's going to do. Was that an RT report? That was kind of a cool voice. I liked him.

That was NTD. Oh, NTD. Oh, NTD. My sources, sources familiar with the matter, tell me that UK was behind this. And it kind of fits with Keir Starmer all of a sudden being Mr. War. And it wouldn't surprise me. Well, that's an interesting little tidbit that we can end the show with. Yes, but not before we have thanked our donors $50 and above.

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jobs, Carmel do that or Gina, Gina, Gina, Molly, Gina, Molly, Holy moly and Phoenix, Arizona, 63 25, Gina, Gina Moley. Gina Moley. Moley Moley in Phoenix, Arizona, 6325. Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo, California, 6161. And that's the anti-GG donation. Aunt Gigi, and here it comes. I'll just have an apple in my room. Brian Furley 5510 anonymous Portland Oregon 55. He wants us to mention Nick and Terry who are expecting a new human resources any day. In the morning. Sean Pendergast in Vista, California, 55.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. nation. Uh, John Bosano. Hey, there he is. Haven't seen him for a while in Madison, Alabama, 52 72.

These are $50 donors actually. Alex, uh, Salah, what do you think Salah? Salah Shower Salah, Salah, Hashour Salah's hour. Oh, maybe. Big Derm and he came in 5272. There's also McDermott Connor in Estero, Florida, 5272. Roger Kesey in Holland, Michigan. Douglas Johnson, 5272 in Lithia, Florida. Then we get to the 50s, just the plain old 50s.

Name and location starting with Matt Frazee in St. John's, Florida. A lot of Floridians. Yeah, they're on fire. Foster Birch in New York, uh, Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan, James Sharametta in Napanok, New York, uh, Rebecca Ho or Hog, or one of the two in Memphis, Tennessee. Chris Conacher in Anchorage, Alaska, or Alex Zavala in Kiley, Texas. Nartsis Nadenoff. Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, Texas, not Kylie. Kyle,

Kyle, Texas, not Kylie. No, no. Nartsis Nadenoff, Nadenoff, Clifton, New Jersey. Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon. And last on our list here is Brett Lemons in Mitchell, Indiana. I want to thank these people for making Show 1771. Show 1771. Yes. And we have a jobs karma and an F Cancer karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. You've got karma. And we have breaking news. Breaking news from the quads. President Vladimir Putin of Russia has said he is willing to negotiate a peace treaty between President Trump and Elon Musk It's the joke of the day apparently Thank you very much to these donors $50 and above and again Thank you so much for the value received from our executive and associate executive producers We do have some PhDs who have helped us out tremendously today. We appreciate that so much you can always support the show with time with talent with treasure go to no agenda donations comm and Set up a recurring donation any amount any frequency just anything you want to give us

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Wait a minute. First, I need to read this note. A layaway knight, Jeffrey Morrill, he's been a sustaining donor since 2018. Why, he says? Because real sustainability is only the best podcast in the universe. To all the slaves I say, make sure you're eating government mac and cheese and donate early and often it works. Now he has a very long notes here,

but I will skip through a few pieces and he says, Adam, John may God bless you with the best exit strategy in the universe by letting Jesus be your shelter. My church has seen a massive increase more than pre-COVID numbers and one protester, praise God. We are winning nothing compared to the beat drop in church. John, I have one, I have, I for one have been receiving all newsletters so I'm not sure why all the failures. What do you think? Have we had failures? Well, you didn't even get the last newsletter. You

told me so yourself and you have two email addresses. But Tina did get it. That's the crazy thing. But you didn't get it. I didn't get it and I've never, at least one of my two email addresses always gets it. Let me just see. Does he have, he wants an apple in his room. Okay, there you go go this is exactly right

it works becoming a layaway night and since 2018 love hearing that fantastic you are going to be invited up on the podium if you can give me your blade John nice big sword there you go there it is all right Jeffrey Morrow come on up you sustaining donor guy anonymous black sheep Black Sheep, Eric Clay Thomason, and Blake Luther. All of you are now official knights of the Noah Jindal Roundtable. I am proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Horseman, Sir Snortle, Sir M of Spokane, Sir Jeffrey, I guess, and Black Sheep Lord of the East Lansing Hinterlands. For all of you we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay along with that some

Ruben-esque women in Rosé, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablum, and as always we've got you some Mutton and some Mead. Go to NoAgendaRings.com just like everybody else. Did I miss this anonymous black sheep night? I guess I guess we knighted him but we but we and we gave him the wrong name. Not sure. This is so confusing. And Eric clay was also a layaway knight after years of throwing pennies and nickels into value for value.

He became Sir Snortle. Okay, I think I got everything right. So the guy who got his name, we got his name wrong, anonymous black sheep, now E61 black sheep lord of the East Lansing hinterlands. He says he feels he should be a black knight, but I don't think that counts. We didn't forget him. We just did the wrong name. Am I correct?

That would be my assumption, yeah. Okay, take it up with the back office. Notes at noagendershow.net. You can always send in a request for a variance. Well, I think he did send in the request. Form 414, did he send that in? He did not send in the form. Form 414, did he send that in? He did not send in the form. That is exactly the problem.

NoAgendaRings.com, go take a look at that handsome Knight Ring. It's a Cygnet ring, so it comes with sticks of wax, which you can melt and then stick your ring into it to seal your important correspondence. And as always, with a certificate of authenticity and welcome again to the roundtable of the NoAgenda Knights and Aims. Welcome again to the roundtable the no agenda nights and names Around the globe we love it when people send in reports and let us know how things went and we have a very famous Super arch what is the top the top level the Archduke? Duke Grand Duke I'm sorry the Grand Duke of Tokyo that's who I'm talking about Grand Duke Mark and he sent us the report for the Tokyo meetup

from May 31st hey John hey Adam sir Mark here we're having another great meetup in Tokyo rolling out the red carpet for our international guests. Welcome! In the morning from Tokyo! In the morning, this is Sir Patrick Hobel, the Duke of the South, out here in 10 cups. Howdy. And Dame Sarah.

Dame Catherine, they're eating the dogs. Sir James, they're eating the cats. This is Marina. Hi Dad, I know you're listening. This is Harold. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu. This is Abi. I got ants.

Hey Adam and John C. This is Brandon coming to you from Ten Cups in Tokyo. I sucked my boat today in Yokohama Harbour. Otsukaresama deshita. Hi John and Adam. Much love to you both. And we're celebrating Onosato's's win to Yokozuna. Yay!

Daymastered here. Straight from Tokyo, here is Raven! Raven now apparently has a job in Tokyo. And Sir Mark also sent me pictures of the meetup. Good looking people. There were so many Knight and Dame rings. It wasn't funny. And Dame Astrid has a dynamite new hairdo. I got, you got to take a look.

It's short. It looks fantastic. I'm just saying that. A promo sent in by Dirty Jersey Whore, way too long. The East Texas June Meetup. Let's listen how long we can stand it. You'll come on down to Rotolo's Pizzeria in Longview, Texas for an extraordinary gathering of minds. Indeed, my dear friends do allow me to extend a most cordial invitation. Prepare

yourselves for we are orchestrating a rendezvous that promises to be more delightful than a perfectly brewed cup of Earl Grey on a crisp morning. Kindly mark your esteemed calendars for the 29th of June at 3.33pm. This I assure you is to be a most agreeable, unburdened and utterly no agendas short of gathering. An opportunity for us to simply relax, exchange pleasantries, one might even anticipate a few spirited discussions, shall we say, conspiracy-laced yawns over a refre-

You have to hit the gong when you're tired of it. Refreshing beverage. There will be no grand pronouncements, no tiresome pitches. There it is, there's the gong. There's the gong. Two minutes of promo. That's not a promo That's longer than I allow end of show mixes dirty dirty or seconds should be your your goal. I think 30 seconds I think so too. I think so too. It was cute, but it's just too much. Sorry. I think of a TV ad Yeah, they sell them in 30 second increments. The one minute ones are boring. Yeah, this was two minutes Yeah, this was two minutes. Yeah. Too long. There is a meetup happening tomorrow. Big Tom's Bar in Brussels.

Oh yes, we want to have the Southampton Brussels Belgium meetup report. Remember to include your server. Six o'clock at last minute meetup at Big Tom's Bar. Can't wait to hear the report from that. And on Sunday, our next show day, the fourth annual Louisiana Crawfish Boil. Two o'clock is when it kicks off at Shaw Acres you've got an RSVP for that one in Prairieville Louisiana Mary Moon is hosting that sounds like that's gonna be fun coming up on the agenda we have the

Copenhagen Denmark meetup we have the Lazarus Vart Kulemborg meetup, New York City. This is on the 14th. We got Khan, Khan in France on the 17th. Who says we're not international? Please, I wanna have meetup reports from all of these faraway places. And you can schedule your own or find out where these are at noagendameetups.com.

Go ahead, go check it out. If you can't find one near you, you must start one yourself, go check it out. You can't find one near you. You must start one yourself. It's a fact. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be,

triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. So have I now detected... No, no, you do have one ISO. I thought that you were like on some kind of strike because I didn't like the AI ISOs. Yeah, you don't like the good AI ones even though you loved them for a couple of months

until you found that they were AI. You're an AI bigot. Correct. That would be me. So you have a four second one? That's a violation itself. It says three seconds on my rundown. I would like to introduce you to a new brand of Angus beef. Mmmmm. Here's mine.

It is damn good storytelling. Boom. Do you like that one? Yeah. Okay, we'll use that one. And right now, ladies and gentlemen, as we round out the show, it is time for the famous John's Tip of the Day. My ISO was actually, my ISO was actually designed to kind of ridicule Megan Kelly and her advertising.

Oh my gosh. She does so much of it. And a lot of it native or native sounding. Yes. Yeah. She's good at it. She, I have to say she's just good. She's good.

Megan is a, is good. Her morning it. I have to say she's just good. She's good. Megan is good. Her morning updates, I listen to that every day. I like her morning updates. She's become like a little network of sorts. A little network of sorts. Yes, that's not a show. She's 5'6". 135 pounds.

Okay, so you've had these little lighter devices or scripto. You usually make some, you squeeze them and a little flame comes out the top and you light your fire, your fireplace fire. No, right? No, I just use a Zippo like all men. Use a Zippo lighter for like a cigarette lighter? Yeah, Zippo, baby. Zippo lighter for light like a cigarette lighter? Yeah, Zippo baby. Or you have to stick it in there completely doesn't have a point. Well anyway, most people have these scriptos, these lighters that they light barbecues with. For example, if you use a Zippo lighter to light a barbecue, when you have you soaked it in some sort of flammable liquid, you blow off your hand. it in some sort of flammable liquid, you'd blow off your hand. Yes.

So anyway, don't buy it. The ones that you normally get, which have a little flame that come out, but you click it and it could flame because it's wimpy. You want to skip that. Scripto also makes it more obscure, but you can find them. They're called a torch flame. And it's literally a, it's, it looks just like a regular scripto thing with a pointy end and a little, little thing you click like that. Yes. Um, only the flame is not like some wimpy flame. It's like a propane butaneane thing that you know that you could

weld with. You can, you can use, you can solder with this thing. Wow. It's an intense little flame. It's dangerously so that could like burn through stuff. It's fabulous. This is the way to go. It's called a torch flame. You can find them. They do have them. You have to almost look it up specifically to find them. They only sell them in onesies or not in packs of three. And you have to actually look for them and they vary in price, but they're about the same price, although I've seen them more expensive. They're about the same price as the wimpy little lighter.

This is what you want. Torch flame? Torch flame from Scripto. Torch flame. I'm just looking it up here. How big is this thing? It's a normal size is the size is every one of these things are all about the same size as the regular scripto lighter But this thing huh is what you want Wow, actually had that looks cool. You can also do creme brulee with it

You yes, that's the cool thing about you can literally burn that you could burn your initials in the creme brulee. There it is ladies and gentlemen, John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day. Look at all of them on tipoftheday.net. Creative vibes for you and me. Just a tip with JCP. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Bernetti. That's right. Where would we be without Dana Bernetti? We barely have a show without him. He says he's gonna do the diploma of... The commencement speech?

Yeah. Ha ha! I knew we could get him for that. Well, he also has demands. Great. Oh. Oh. It's a great get. Well, he gets the honorary degree, which is even worse than a regular degree. But he has other demands. All right.

Well, I'm sure we will buckle to his demands because after all, he's Hollywood royalty. On the way, if you listen to your live stream, we have next on the No Agenda stream, Complex Candor, which I'm not familiar with this podcast, ComplexCandor.com, the episode is titled Spirit. And before that, you will hear outstanding end of show mixes from Fletcher, from Vinnie Payne, and Melody. That's right. And we'll be back on Sunday

with more media deconstruction for you, coming to you right now from the hill country of Texas Which is where the lunches are held by the ladies and we learn a lot in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. Yeah from Northern Silicon Valley where everything I said earlier is wrong. It's too windy here I'm John C DeVore. We return on Sunday. Please remember us at noagendadonations.com Until then adios mo foes a hooeywee and such Left and the right but it's all the same thing The New Agenda Show with Adam Curry and John Cena Boy Live every Sunday and Thursday 12PM 11C

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I'm an American. I'm an American. It is damn good storytelling.