No Agenda - 1774 - "Leave it to Bibi"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Come on people, wear a wire. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, June 19, 2025. This is your award winning Gimmonation Media assassination episode 1774. This is no agenda. Just days away. And broadcasting live from the heart of the

Starting point is 00:00:18 Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody's getting it wrong, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Craig Bond and Buzzkill. In the morning. That's what I've been saying for the past three days, Satina. Everyone's getting it wrong. It's all wrong.

Starting point is 00:00:39 It's all wrong. By the way, happy Juneteenth. Oh yes, Juneteenth. Yeah. Happy Juneteenth everybody Oh yes, Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth, everybody. That's right. You know what Juneteenth is about, don't you? Yeah, about the dummies in Texas. No, Juneteenth is about voting. Today is Juneteenth, also known as Freedom Day and Emancipation Day.

Starting point is 00:01:00 The federal holiday commemorates the end of slavery in the United States, and there will be multiple events happening across our area today including one with Reverend Al Sharpton and Spike Lee at Juniors in downtown Brooklyn. Good morning Pedro. Well we just heard Phil talk about voting that is going to be the message here this morning. Reverend Al Sharpton is expected to be here at the iconic restaurant here in Brooklyn with the award-winning filmmaker Spike Lee to kick off the Juneteenth celebrations this morning. Now for civil rights activists, Juneteenth serves as a potent reminder that freedom isn't

Starting point is 00:01:31 merely declared. It must be protected through things like voting. So Juneteenth celebrates the freedom of enslaved African Americans in the United States on this day. There you go. You got Al Sharpton and Spike Lee out there saying happy Juneteenth you gotta vote Democrat They're getting an early jump on the on the midterms that's all that's Juneteenth as you know, it's about voting. It's all about voting Police

Starting point is 00:01:59 Capture that capture. Yeah Mm-hmm. Are they celebrating Juneteenth outside your door there in Berkeley? No, nobody's, they're not even protesting. I don't know what's wrong with this area. Could you please get your, that area into shape? They are not following the rules, man. They're not following the rules. Well, yes, you are right. Everyone's getting it wrong. So I see your clips, of course, as we know, I never listen to your clips. You have no idea what clips I'm bringing. We have not coordinated. We don't talk. We don't really want to talk in between shows because we talk seven hours a week. It's more than enough.

Starting point is 00:02:41 You sound like a magician on the stage. That's right. Don't look over here. You've never met me. You don't know who I am. Have we ever met each other before? Have we ever met each other before? I don't think so. Have we discussed? Have we pre-planned anything? No, we haven't. So I will get you into your clips with two clips to get you started. First, we'll start with a little mini cut. 1995. Iran will be capable of producing alone, without importing anything, nuclear bombs within three to five years. The deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close. Iran and Libya are racing to develop nuclear weapons. Iran is gearing up to have and produce 25 bombs, atomic bombs a year, 250 bombs in a decade. By next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished

Starting point is 00:03:33 Iran is so dangerous, weeks away from having the fissile material for an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs. Iran has to produce an arsenal of nuclear bombs. Iran to produce an arsenal of nuclear weapons. They have the wherewithal, the stored up preserved knowledge to make a bomb very quickly if they wanted to do it. Iran to produce a nuclear weapon in a very short time. It could be within a few months. My favorite of those is 2012,

Starting point is 00:04:01 because we were doing the show and he held, in the United Nations, he held up that drawing of a bomb like a spy versus spy bomb. Oh that great yes I forgot about the drawing. So we've we've been just weeks away months away days away very close nuclear arsenal since we've been tracking at 1995 and this whole thing this whole thing the whole past few days has thrown everybody into a tizzy. This is the lead in into your clips, I'm sure. He campaigned on pledges to end wars and not start new ones.

Starting point is 00:04:35 The issue has exposed divides within Trump's MAGA base. Conservative pundit and Trump ally Tucker Carlson is one of those opposed to deeper involvement. Tensions reached boiling point when he interviewed Republican Senator Ted Cruz, accusing him of knowing nothing about Iran. I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran. You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government. And you don't know anything about the country.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Trump hit out at Carlson on his Truth Social page, saying, somebody please explain to Kuki Tucker Carlson that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Others on Carlson's side include Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon, who took to social media to urge decisions that put America first. Thoughts echoed by Charlie Kirk, the founder of conservative activist group Turning Point USA. Take out the Ayatollah. Resist that temptation. That's a zeal. And that very same zeal got us involved in a pile of garbage in Iraq.

Starting point is 00:05:37 On the other side of Trump's orbit, Senator Lindsey Graham says Washington should do whatever it can to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear bomb. If diplomacy fails, Mr. President, President Trump, you've been great. Help Israel finish the job. Israel! Give them bombs. Israel! Israel!

Starting point is 00:05:56 Fox News personality Mark Levin took it one step further, saying anyone who wasn't on board with wiping out the threat posed by Iran was a Marxist Islamist. An Islamo-Nazi regime with a nuclear warhead, intercontinental missiles that have threatened to assassinate the President of the United States. Gee, and we have morons, fools running around the country. This isn't Magna. Magna? This isn't what I voted for.

Starting point is 00:06:22 Magna? No, I did not vote for magna. No, no. So that's just a little sampling of what has been going on. And oh my lord. That's actually good. That's the overview. That's the overview. So over to you. We have not met before. I have plenty of stuff, but I'm going to go off track a bit at the beginning by bringing up a couple of kind of factors. And it was based on one of our Martel, our Martel guy, Martel Hardware.

Starting point is 00:06:55 Oh, oh, martelhardware.com. Gold. He says, I know you hate Scott Horton, but you should listen to this. Oh, I clipped it. Oh, you did? Well, is this the part where he taught? Well, you probably didn't clip what I wanted to. No, I'm sure I didn't clip and I want to come to that later.

Starting point is 00:07:15 But go ahead and. Well, he said something in there. I didn't. You know, it's the same blather. You know, the guys, you know, not a big fan. But, you know, and he's just, it's hard to look at. And so, not that I know. Wow, come on, he can't handle that. I know, it's just beneath me. But what is the tent he's in is my question. He's in a tent. It's a good question. But when he said that the deterrence on the part of Iran over the years has always been we could build a nuclear missile, but we're not going to do it.

Starting point is 00:07:49 We're not going to build a nuke. But the threat of us possibly doing it is what the deterrence was. And I found that to explain a lot. And that combines with something I ran into on an Indian, I just ran into it, and this was pretty coincidental. I was looking something up and it was an Indian celebrity website where they talk about celebrities and how tall they are, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:17 I always like to do this anyway. How tall they are, how fat they are, and all the rest of it. And there was a entry for Donald Trump from 20 years ago. In the entry it said, Donald Trump hobbies reading. Oh no! And what did he like to read? Mein Kampf, of course, because he has it next to his bed. Mein Kampf, we all know that. He liked to read histories and biographies.

Starting point is 00:08:45 And when you start thinking about it, that's kind of, that's interesting because he's kind of thinks of himself as a historical character and a biography and he's a biographical type of guy and histories and histories. If you'd like reading histories out of, just like reading them, you're going to be reading a lot of world history. That means he's very familiar with Tamerlane. Tamerlane was a Genghis Khan clone in the 1300s and he had an experience with Persia. And because I remember this myself, Tamerlane was taken over the place. He's the one who created the modern Middle East in

Starting point is 00:09:22 the 1300s. By owning everything he could, he sent some emissaries to Persia to say, you want to do a deal? You got 60 days. Didn't quite say that. But wanted to do a deal and sent some emissaries. The way one story goes, they said, screw you. We don't give a shit what you think

Starting point is 00:09:46 Chopped an emissary's head off put it in the box and sent it back nice Tamerlane took Persia out Rubble eyes the entire country killed everybody he could no one knows this anymore John no one knows this No, no one knows no one knows this and it turns out when you start looking into it, the Persians have always been a holes bringing this sort of destruction on themselves over and over and over again throughout history. That is a digital piece. And Trump has to be aware of this.

Starting point is 00:10:18 And it's at the point where, and the clips I'm going to play are secondary to my basic thinking, which is that we're just sick of it. It's got nothing to do with, Oh, Iraq or being sucked into a never ending war. We're just sick of it. We're sick of Iran. They're right. Since Reagan got in, he wanted to bomb because he took out the Marine barracks and killed 40 Marines or whatever it was. Over and over again, they created Hezbollah, Hamas, no

Starting point is 00:10:45 matter what Alex Jones thinks. Israel funded a man, they created it, I looked it up. So great, I looked it up. I looked it up. I looked it up. And so, and their death to America, death to America ever since 79, when they took over the embassy illegally by all international law and kept our people there for a year.

Starting point is 00:11:06 It ruined the nightline show, which is, we're going to stay on the air forever until they let the guys go. And the whole thing, we're sick of it. We're just sick of it. And Trump knows the story, put the deadline on there. It happened the day after the 60 days was up, just like Tamerlane. We're just sick of Iran. Bush wanted to bomb them and couldn't do it because the CIA said, don't worry about this. They don't have a bomb. The CIA intelligence people in Tulsi-Gabbert are probably all right. They probably don't have a bomb, but they have

Starting point is 00:11:39 this threat they're going to do a bomb if they have to. And then death to America, death to Israel, and they're going to do a bomb if they have to. And they're dead to America, dead to Israel, and they're just horrible. Trump is the one that's going to say screw it, BB go ahead and bomb the hell out of him, maybe we'll do even more after this gets going. And that's the basis for all this. It's got nothing to do with never-ending wars or they have a nuke, they don't have a nuke. They have a nuke or they got a nuke two weeks away. All this bullshit. Can I just…

Starting point is 00:12:08 It's just we're sick of it. We're sick of it. Since you bring up the 60 days, I think this is warranted to play. Striking Iranian nuclear facilities. Where's your mindset on that? I can't say that, right? You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that question. Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component at what time exactly, sir?

Starting point is 00:12:28 Sir, would you strike it? Would you please inform us so we can be there and watch? I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even do it. You don't know. I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do. I can tell you this, that Iran's got a lot of trouble and they want to negotiate.

Starting point is 00:12:45 And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before all this death and destruction? Why didn't you negotiate? I said to the people, why didn't you negotiate with me two weeks ago? You could have done fine. You would have had a country. It's very sad to watch this. I mean, I've never, I've never seen anything like it. It's so, you know, everyone thought

Starting point is 00:13:05 it was gonna be the reverse. I didn't, I didn't think so. And I was telling them, you gotta do something. You gotta negotiate. And at the end, last minute, they said, no, we're not gonna do that. And they got hit. Remember 60 days, and then came the 60,

Starting point is 00:13:19 61's gonna become a very famous number. That was one hell of a hit, that first hit. That was one hell of a hit. Not sustainable, to be honest. There you go. He's bringing up the history, just as you said. 61. It was 60, but now it's 61. 61 is going to go down in history. I'm going to be bigger than the history books. 61. 61. So he's the one after Reagan and Bush and everybody in between wouldn't do anything. He's decided that that's it. Yeah. Drew a line, created the 60 days, created a parallel kind of a situation with what happened in the 1300s.

Starting point is 00:13:54 And here we go. But let's listen. But meanwhile, everyone's all bent out of shape. So I've got these clips that you brought up Tucker Carlson. I did. And you had the really good Levin clip. Yeah. So let's listen to, so Bannon had Tucker on his show and they had some pretty good exchanges, but then Tucker, which he's more comfortable as the host, brought Bannon on his show. Yes.

Starting point is 00:14:20 And then they got into it and with some discussions that I thought were fascinating. Yes. But let's listen to this one. This is not part of this about the series. The series is, there's two little series, but this one's just a standalone. This is Ben and Tucker talking about Mark Levin and Tucker, it's interesting when you look at his waveforms, when he's revealing, it's interesting. Just, you know, I record everything. Oh, he goes small up, small up, small up. Is that kind of his waveform?

Starting point is 00:14:52 No, he has, when he's revealing certain things, he drops his voice to an extreme. Oh yeah. And he's like telling secrets out of class, so he drops his voice. Now I boosted all those up and when I boosted them, it sounded normal. So he's got some sort of tail that goes on with his dropping his voice way down. Yeah. And it's clear when you bring it up, it's very interesting phenomena. But here he is talking about Mark Levin because there's a beef going on between the two of them. and Tucker is a maniac. And Tucker's whole thing is like Don Rickles when he insults people.

Starting point is 00:15:30 He says, no, no, just kidding, just kidding. I love the guy. I love the guy. And then he goes, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,

Starting point is 00:15:40 ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, The platform of Fox though, it's just not marked. Why is Fox like all weekend, it's just cheerleading. You can play side by side Iraq in 2003. Oh, I was there. And here. And what's happening today?

Starting point is 00:15:56 Why is this apparatus? Well, Vin's the funniest because he's terrible on TV. And again, I never had any problems with him at Fox. He kind of controls Hannity in this weird way. I never understood what that was about. I never really cared to learn. Sean was great to me, always nice, and so was Levin. So I just kind of stayed away.

Starting point is 00:16:17 But they didn't want to put him on TV because he's like screechy and he's just not a coming president. I'm coming on TV! Like, oh my, I'm literally floating in and out of consciousness and the attendant has taken the remote to go have a cigarette, you're gonna flip the channel when Mark Levin gets on TV. It's like listening to your ex-wife scream about alimony payments. It's like, not appealing. So they wouldn't put him on TV.

Starting point is 00:16:39 And then, you know, Sean Push and they gave him some kind of weekend show that nobody watched. Now, I don't have a TV, but... What? What? He was just telling me that he's like all over primetime. So what is that? That's not by popular acclaim. That's not like their viewer surveys.

Starting point is 00:16:55 Like, you know, we need a lot more Mark Levin. Less Jesse Waters, more Mark Levin. Mark Levin! What they're doing is what they always do, which is just turning up the propaganda hose to full blast and just trying to, you know, knock elderly Fox viewers off their feet and make them submit to the war. This is where the population, the voters are ahead of the political class in the media. The American people do not want any more engagement in a foreign war.

Starting point is 00:17:24 They saw Iraq, they saw Afghanistan, we're just out. I think because they're racist. Is that what you're saying? They're just bigots. I love doing his laugh. I'm getting pretty good at that. You got it. I think I've nailed it. Wait, that was bad. I've tried it. I'm not even close. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts. It's not an easy one. Well, you know, that's a lot of good stuff does hurt. Yes. So Bannon is on the show and he wants Tucker to become part of government.

Starting point is 00:17:57 I heard all this by the way. So I'm glad. And when I saw the clips come in, I'm like, oh dynamite, John did it. Thank God. I don't have to do it. Yeah. The most of my time was spent boosting the, you know, getting the normalizing the signal. Geez. So, um, so Bannon, for some reason,

Starting point is 00:18:16 he sees everything as a we and he thinks he's part of some. And if you look at, by the way, Bannon does have an operation called the movement. The movement. The movement? Out of Brussels. Really? You know about this? No. What is the, out of Brussels, that can't be good. No. The movement is a worldwide populist movement, literally,

Starting point is 00:18:42 to get people, to get all these governments to put populists in. And it's a political, it's a political organization of some sort and it's called the movement and it's, and Bannon runs it and he's behind it. He's got his, you know, he's got his fingers in a lot of different pots. Yeah. Well, he, if you, I sent in an article, yeah. Unmasking Steve different pots. Yeah, well, he, if you, I sent in an article. It's in the show notes. Yeah, unmasking Steve Bannon.

Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, I put it in the show notes. Yeah, it's in the show notes. People should read it. It reminds us, cause it reminded me that Bannon is the one who came up with the sleazy scheme to put up the wall in Texas and then, you know, the money disappeared kind of. Yeah, it was dubious what happened there.

Starting point is 00:19:25 It was dubious, that's all we can say. But what was he involved for in the first place? Sorry. Now it's a tick. Please don't do that. So here he is with that, trying to cajole Tucker into becoming political. And when you listen to Bannon,

Starting point is 00:19:44 everything's a wee, wee, wee, as though he's got a big organization behind him and maybe he does but it's some it's very creepy but these two clips lead into the the four really good clips where they start talking about the CIA and yes and who knows what about what very interesting we need a handful of smart people around President Trump they're saying saying, look, we put Cash and Bongino into the FBI. We've put Ellis in the... Wait, hold on, stop, stop. We are stamping, as we say in the Netherlands, in the old country.

Starting point is 00:20:15 We are stamping, aren't we? Said the elephant to the mouse. So he says, we put in Bongino. We put in the jail. He did it. Yeah, he did it, man. He's running the show. Steve Bannon is your overlord. By the way, what he's about to say to Tucker is very similar to what Pacenok said to me.

Starting point is 00:20:34 We really need a guy like you in US government, Adam. Really? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's like, isn't it time for you to return and come to the return, which was interesting, and come to the USG? No, I don't think I want to be in the USG. Huh, okay. Yeah, I forgot to tell you that.

Starting point is 00:21:00 Put Cash and Bongino into FBI. We've put Ellis and in Radcliffe's the CIA We put a handful of great people at DOJ. We put Pete and a handful of great people at defense We put Tulsi and Joe Kent a handful of people at DNI. It's not enough The apparatus still runs the deal. We are hanging on in a very tenuous shape We need to go to war like they want to go to war in in in Persia We need to go to war, like they want to go to war in Persia, we need to go to war with them. And I mean, take the sword out of the scabbard and throw away the scabbard.

Starting point is 00:21:29 We have to do that now. I mean, if I got anywhere near any kind of institutional power, which I've never sought, and I don't seek now, but if I ever did, you know, I think the Tom Cotton's and the donors and people like that, I mean, I think they'd, I mean, I think that would be really hard. Okay, Pilgrim. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:49 Please. So he says that and it's like, what is Banyan? And he's doing this in public. This is like a public request. Recruitment. It's a recruitment. It's a we. And who's we?

Starting point is 00:22:03 Well, no, but what I see Banyan doing here is he knows the power of Tucker's audience. He knows it's a different audience probably that watches him, or at least there's a Venn diagram but not all of it. You're right. It's not the same audience that watches The War Room. Right. So he's trying to draw Tucker in, which is what you're seeing across the board, whether it's Dave Smith, whether it's Scott Horton, whether it's Megyn Kelly. I mean, it's all clicks.

Starting point is 00:22:34 They're all clicking together. And it's very disturbing because of the podcast, but there it is. I think you nailed it. I think that's one of the major elements of this. And I agree, it's disturbing. I don't like seeing stuff like that. But anyway, let's listen to part two of this recruitment promotion. That would be really hard. But Kitty Pore on my computer, I'd get pancreatic cancer. I don't know, man.

Starting point is 00:23:03 First off, just the announcement of that, the intention of that, would unmask. We need, part of this is going through an unmasking. Who's on our side and who's not on our side. Because a lot of people that are pretending to be on our side are on the opposite side. Yeah, and this is where they kind of kicked into the whole CIA talk, which I found to be very interesting because man Tucker knows

Starting point is 00:23:26 a lot about the CIA. Well, did you, little, he let a little bit, a little thing slip in that little episode, which is the reason I kept it in. He says, well, you know, the problem is I get in there and then I, then my, then he says something, he says my computer. Yeah, and pancreatic cancer. And pancreatic cancer. Well, but didn't you bring that up in the conversation about the CIA that some guy was not loyal to Langley and then he got pancreatic cancer and died really quickly? Well, not in this discussion that I remember. Okay, but I remember that.

Starting point is 00:23:58 But that's possible. But this pancreatic cancer thing has always been somewhat disconcerting because it's a very rare form of cancer and it crops up out of the, it crops up a lot more than you'd think with famous people. Steve Jobs had it for example. Yes, yes, aggressive, an aggressive form of cancer. So the, so I think and he didn't quite finish saying pancreatic cancer, he just kind of started to say it and then pulled back. So I found that to be, uh, screwy. So here we go. Now they're going to start talking about, they're going to start talking shop and this is the best, some of the best stuff. It's like really outstanding. This is a, uh,

Starting point is 00:24:42 they bring in the CIA and, but there's a kicker in the first clip in which triggered my whole Catching all this otherwise, I wouldn't record it any of this in the until this happened I would like to have John Ratcliffe go to the sticks and I think Ratcliffe's a good man John Ratcliffe should go to the sticks and say two things number one We had no involvement at all in the Ukraine assault and in under Russia Just say it because he's kind of been in hiding in that. And then he ought to be open to questions. He's never criticized. No one ever criticized John Radcliffe.

Starting point is 00:25:09 Well, the reason I think they're not criticizing John Radcliffe, and John Radcliffe's a good man, but you have to remember John Radcliffe was a mayor of a small town in Texas that went to Congress, did a great job. President Trump likes him a lot. He's got Mike Ellis over there, but there are two guys, right? We don't have 10 political pointies, which we should have. We got two guys running that building. That's the way the agency's structured.

Starting point is 00:25:33 There's no civilian control of the IAS. Well, you know better than anybody, but it's in it. Woo! You know better than anybody, Tucker. Really? So that triggered, obviously when I heard that it's like, okay, let's get some more clips here. You know better than anybody. There's, and what they dropped out of that, which really irks me

Starting point is 00:25:55 about some of these guys and Bannon being one of them, uh, is they say there's two guys running that place, running the building, two CIA supervisors of some sort. Two guys. And it's not Brad Cliff or whoever is the head guy. It's two guys. Who are the two guys? They never, and ask anybody out there, I'd just like to know who they are. Do we know who they are?

Starting point is 00:26:25 I do not know. Well, they both know there's two guys. So they both must know who they are. So why don't they just mention their names just so we can know who they are? But Tucker knows better than anybody. And Tucker knows better than anybody. And of course we know the names are all fake because you have to do that. And they're wearing masks so it doesn't help. are all fake because you have to do that. And they're wearing masks, so it doesn't help. They've got these rubber, well that's all possible, yes. It could be fake names, fake faces. The whole thing.

Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah, that's always a possibility. So here we go. It runs the way it's gonna run. I mean, we sent Pompeo over there. It's an army, it's a business, it's a government agency. It's a country. It's a venture capital firm. It's literally a, it's a business, it's a government agency, it's a country. It's a venture capital firm. It's literally a venture capital firm,

Starting point is 00:27:07 and its budget is unknown, its reach is, and you know. And we have no idea what they're doing. Of course, because the majority of things that they do are not, you know, U.S. government employees doing, even the door kickers, no, it's they're working through some exiled group, they've been funding for 30 years, right? They will also look you right in the eye.

Starting point is 00:27:24 Oh, I know. And lie to you. Oh, I know. Because that's funding for 30 years, right? They will also look you right in the eye. Oh, I know. And lie to you. Oh, I know. Because that's the willingness of mirrors, right? Look, look. And they're smart. Somebody said to me the other day, someone knowledgeable said, the problem with the US government is like, why can't we do this or that?

Starting point is 00:27:36 And like, if you wanted light rail, you know we couldn't do it. And this person said, because all the smartest people in government are at CIA. Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. So that's interesting in itself. Yes. Well, for sure we don't hear much about the CIA. We hear a lot about Cash Patel and Dan Bargino. Yeah, who Bannon put in.

Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. Thank you, Bannon. Yeah. Okay, so we continue with this because they're just doing a brain dump here and this is fascinating in some way because as we know, Tucker knows more than anyone. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:28:12 He does. They also, with the inter-agency process, they control the entire process. This is why downsizing NSC was so important. When you have this, we had these detailees that come from all the different departments because NSC should have 30 people but it had 250. There are 60 local appointees, right?

Starting point is 00:28:29 And there's 280 come from different agencies to do all the different paperwork. They have the interagency process. The CIA controls that process. They control the process at the Pentagon. They control the DHS. Yep. They control over the Justice Department. They are embedded deep because they've been around, you know, they've been around so long and they know how to embed deep,

Starting point is 00:28:47 right, with the smartest people out there. And so, if you don't get control of that, you're not gonna get control. They're like a Peturian Guard right now. We have to, we have to lance this. This is like the late stage of the Roman Empire, when the Peturian Guard kind of ran the deal and they would put forward every legionary captain

Starting point is 00:29:04 that they thought was gonna be good for a time and They are planning right now to thwart president Trump's Second term make sure they wait him out and they're gonna have a hand selected person for the third term And I don't say this is a conspiracy theory guy. This is just basic for that totally true They're so clever that if you criticize them, they will leak to people that you work for them. I happen to know Yeah, I'm getting some of that actually I am I am but locally up there in the no no no on on the socials, you know, like yeah Uncle CIA we all know you what were you doing in Amsterdam? Yeah, you went to Moscow

Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah know you, what were you doing in Amsterdam? Yeah, you went to Moscow. Yeah, well, you should probably make notes of who's doing that. So I immediately think, oh, okay, when I heard that, I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. If you criticize the CIA, and you have a voice somewhere, they're going to, they're going to tell, oh, you're part of it. Of course. Yeah, it's a good bit. But it's a great bit. Tucker thinks it's a good bid. It's a great bid. I love it. Tucker thinks it's a fabulous idea. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. But then you have to consider, let's

Starting point is 00:30:14 reveal a few things that should be known. The CIA likes alcoholics, but they do not adhere to anyone using drugs. No, only booze. They like boozers. They like boozers, but they don't... and you were notorious in... Weed, weed, weed. I was weed, not booze. You're a weed guy. Yeah, no good. So you're disqualified immediately from the get-go. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:42 So no, you're not... I don't think you are. And I don't see how you could be based on anything. I was a hit man for the CIA at MTB. I was, I was out there killing the rock stars. You weren't even the, even the handler or anything. So, so people who think that are screwy, but it doesn't mean you don't know anything. That's true because you know, Tucker knows a lot. More than anybody.

Starting point is 00:31:07 More than anybody. More than anybody. So I believe that Tucker's not, you know, he says himself that he always wanted to be in the CIA. Yeah, he wasn't, he interned, his dad worked for the propaganda arm of the agency, which is the voice. He ran the Voice of America. for the propaganda arm of the agency which is the voice he ran the voice of America or actually he was the the head of the broadcast board of governors which oversees the voice of America which is even above the voice of America. Yeah and and I'm totally convinced he's not in the CIA. No I'm sure he isn't like

Starting point is 00:31:40 me he isn't the same as Stuart Copeland from the police. He's not in the CIA and another druggy. But there's other people that we, we are totally convinced are in the CIA at some level or have something to do with Intel at some level. We've seen it, we know it. And I think we're good at this. So let's go to Tucker's little finale here, where he's, you know, you think about it, he probably laments that he's not in the CIA, and especially since they credit him for being in there blaming him, you know, because they tried to smear him by the CIA. This is a very funny bit.

Starting point is 00:32:14 If you're an effective critic of CIA, Joe Kent, and I've lived this personally, but also Joe Kent is just a wonderful man, a totally sincere man. Great man. Former CIA contractor lost his wife in Syria in the Obama-Syria war and became an opponent of the way things are running. And they, CIA played in his primary. And the way they did it was by convincing Republican primary voters that Joe Ken, who's the single most effective critic of CIA in the United States, was actually working for

Starting point is 00:32:43 CIA. I mean like, wow! I tip my non-existent hat in deference to the actually working for CIA. I mean like wow. I tip my non-existent hat in deference to the brilliance of that. This is how brilliant they are. You notice from President Trump the arc that he went through on Friday. You know something's up when David Ignatius

Starting point is 00:32:57 at the Washington Post, which we call the Langley bugle. He's the head that comes up. Oh, where? When Ignatius comes out on Morning Joe and says, Trump is doing such a really magnificent job here, he's acting like your commander-in-chief, that should be the red flare that goes up and goes, what the fuck? I know. It's too fun.

Starting point is 00:33:15 Why don't I have a TV? Because it's too frustrating to watch. I don't know a single person who doesn't like David Ignatius personally, and that would include me, and he's just such a courtly man. He's like the Murdochs. He's just like, you can't dislike him. he's just such a courtly man. He's like the Murdochs He's just you can't dislike him. He's just got elaborate wonderful manners. He's very nice But like he is he's the spokesman for CIA and you wonder Washington Post is the language Yeah, do you think they still are the Langley bugle they must be no absolutely yeah under Bezos

Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, well Bezos got all those CIA contracts for his Amazon. There you go. There you go. Yeah. So it's all part of a scheme. Well, can I pick the thread up here and run with the ball? Run with the ball. I've hogged enough.

Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah. So I will stick with Tucker for a moment because the other big thing, oh boy, Tucker went Ted a tet with Ted Cruz. Ted a Tats with Ted. Hello. Before you play that, I will mention that there was, I saw this, but I also saw this guy, he's called Captain Ted Bill or some black guy. And I think he's like a cop or ex-cop or something. And he does analysis of these clips. he did a great take down of Tucker on this saying that this whole thing was, Tucker was insincere, this was created just to embarrass crews, he asked questions that anyone couldn't answer.

Starting point is 00:34:40 This is a very interesting expose of Tucker being an a-hole. Well, what I found interesting is that this all was pointing towards Israel. This was all about Israel, Israel, Israel, APEC, Israel, Influence, Israel, Mossad, Israel, Israel, Israel. And then Ted Cruz, then this was funny for me personally, as Ted Cruz brings up scripture. Let's get into Iran momentarily, but you suggested it was a strange thing that I said a minute ago that when I came into the Senate, I resolved that I was going to be the leading defender of Israel.

Starting point is 00:35:16 And what you didn't ask is why. So let me tell you why. No, you said I was obsessed with Israel and you had just told me that like your driving motive to get to the Senate was to defend Israel. I'm like, I don't think I'm the one who's obsessive to Israel. I don't think I'm the one to think about Israel. So, Tucker, words matter. And you know that.

Starting point is 00:35:34 I said I resolved to be the leading defender of Israel. And you said your driving motive, the reason you're in the Senate. You want to be the leading defender of Israel. I would think if I ran for Senate, I'd be like, there are people dying of drug odies on the street. My driving motive is to fight for Texas and America and to fight for jobs and to fight for the constitution. And you played a very, very careful word game of a lie to you. The one who said it, not me. So you still haven't asked why, but I'm going to tell you why.

Starting point is 00:35:59 Okay. And the reason is twofold. Number one, as a Christian. Here we go. Growing up in sunday school I was taught from the bible Those who bless israel will be blessed and those I guess he did He just he that's where he came of age. How you grow up in sunday school. He's only once a week Well, you're nitpicking cruise is already on the ropes here. So he's not speaking straight. Oh, you're right. He's not speaking straight He's on the ropes. What am I doing? He's on the ropes. Growing up in Sunday school, I was taught from the Bible, those who bless Israel will be blessed

Starting point is 00:36:30 and those who curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I want to be on the blessing side of things. Those who bless the government of Israel? Those who bless Israel is what it says. It doesn't say the government of it, it says the nation of Israel. So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that. Where is that? I can find it to you. I don't have the scripture off the tip of my. Pull out the phone and use the Google. It's in Genesis, but so you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have context for it. You don't know where in the Bible it is, but that's like your theology. I'm confused.

Starting point is 00:37:01 So then they go on and on about this. I won't bore you with it. By the way, this is an insincere discussion because he says where was it knowing the answer? He knew the answer. He knew well, the thing is yes is in Genesis 12 I will bless those who bless you whoever curses you I will curse. That's what God says to Abraham that gets repeated in numbers and in Isaiah But really there's no it doesn't say you have to defend Israel, does he have to go fight for Israel? It says, I will bless those who bless you. Well, I didn't want to get into the scripture itself. I just was trying to

Starting point is 00:37:35 point out that this is an insincere conversation. Completely, completely. So, that is true and what Ted Cruz grew up on is just nonsense. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Yes, but there's nothing about defending it, you know, or going to war for it. There's nothing at all about that. So that was insincere on his fact and you're right, it was a set up question from Tucker who also just had Genesis in mind. It's like, whatever. But then Tucker gets to where he really wants to get is what is a popular a Popular talking point that we've discussed on the show many times because it's the Jews I'm only trying to get to the question what a pack is and I don't think you're being straightforward about me pack is

Starting point is 00:38:17 Lobbying on behalf of the interests of a foreign country and they're not registered and you're saying no, that's not true You're saying that they don't coordinate with the Israeli government. I coordinate, they talk with them. I don't know what they do. But why don't you care? Isn't it meaningful if a foreign government... Hey I talk with Israel all the time. Of course you do.

Starting point is 00:38:35 Of course you do. But the law is, and a lot of people have been prosecuted under this law, that if you are lobbying on behalf of foreign government you must register. That's it. It's really simple. And I don't know why if if I'm working from Malaysia, Qatar, or Belgium, and I'm working on behalf of its government. You know, isn't that interesting

Starting point is 00:38:51 that he brings up Belgium and Qatar? Because Steve Bannon, you just mentioned Brussels. There's so many things that I... There's a lot of, I think the point you're gonna make, I'm gonna make it for you, there's missing pieces of information that probably help us understand the situation better. Yes, but there's also people are talking to each other and they're bringing up the same the same... There's something... Yeah, there's a there's a milieu of... Something that Bannon said to him like, huh, I haven't heard that in a while,

Starting point is 00:39:27 and now I hear it three times this week. Anyway, so Brussels. Exactly, yeah, you haven't heard it, and then all of a sudden you're hearing it all the time. Everybody's talking about it. I always find that extremely disturbing. Working from Malaysia or Qatar or Belgium, and I'm working on behalf of its government's interests

Starting point is 00:39:43 through a group of Americans who are representing the friendship between those two nations. I have to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act and if I don't I can go to jail. People have gone to jail, including people I know. So I don't understand why we don't just be honest and say they're lobbying on behalf of foreign government, they're coordinating with the government. You know that that's true.

Starting point is 00:40:01 That is not only not true, that is false. They're not coordinating with the government, you know that that's true. That is not only not true, that is false. They're not coordinating with the Israeli government. So right after this, right after this, the housefrow from House and Habit, you and I have talked about her before, she's big in the right wing conspiracy circles. So she has to go after Tucker, for Tucker going after Israel and AIPAC. And I'm not going to repeat what I keep saying about that. With some spooky, like a cell phone camera moving over a document, which is a Farah disclosure document. And it makes it look like Tucker got money in person from Qatar.

Starting point is 00:40:44 And it's like, oh, look at Tucker. Oh, he got person from Qatar. And you know, it's like, oh, look at Tucker. Oh, he got money from Qatar. Oh boy, he didn't disclose that. And then I go and find the document and it is a FARA disclosure document, which is from a lobbying firm who set up the interview between Tucker and the prime minister of Qatar, which of course they disclose that because they did that. And it says, if you look at the document,

Starting point is 00:41:09 it says interview for Tucker Carlson with the Prime Minister of Qatar, and it says in person. So the services were delivered in person, Tucker got the interview, and that was what the lobbying firm did. But they make it look like, oh Tucker, he's in the pocket of the Muslims now Oh, what is he doing doing against Israel? It was hilarious

Starting point is 00:41:30 And then of course in and the timelines are filled filled with this the Jews are drawing us into a war They're doing it Trump is stupid. You know manga is manga is splitting up. What are we doing? And right on cue? Here comes anonymous. Hello my fellow citizens of America and others across the globe You know, manga is splitting up. What are we doing? And right on cue, here comes Anonymous. Hello, my fellow citizens of America, and others across the globe. This is the Architect, speaking on behalf of Anonymous. Seventeen days remain, until we release everything. But first, there's something we feel the need to bring to light now. It may not be able to wait.

Starting point is 00:42:02 This is not a drill. This is not speculation. This is a warning based on extremely reliable intelligence. We have acquired verified information that a major attack is being planned on domestic soil. It will be brutal. It will be visible. And it will be blamed on a foreign faction, one from the Middle East. But that is a lie. The operation is a false flag orchestrated not by a foreign enemy, but by an elite shadow alliance within a nation that poses as our greatest ally, but instead is a hyper militarized power with deep influence through sexual blackmail in our intelligence.

Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah. You're starting to get the picture? So what anonymous quote unquote anonymous is saying, guy without a hoodie, but okay, anonymous. Oh yeah, one of our greatest allies who control our government with sexual blackmail. They're gonna do a false flag, another 9-11 is coming in. So the internet is just filled with this

Starting point is 00:43:05 and people yelling at me, oh, you think it's about China? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. So enter Scott Horton with Tom Woods because I got the same email from our producer who was kind of snide. Like John's best friend, Scott Horton.

Starting point is 00:43:22 And Scott Horton. You see snide inide where I see humor. Oh well. It wasn't directed towards me so I was happy with all of it. And so I have two clips and then I'm going to get into two series. But first of all Tom Horton is not wrong about this. He's not wrong but he's misguided in his conclusion because of his insanity about, you know, it's the same thing that Dave Smith has, you know, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, they got Epstein files, Israel. Iran can't have a nuke.

Starting point is 00:43:58 They can't have a nuke. Implying and begging the question ridiculously that they were making one and that they were about to have one and that they would have had one if we hadn't done this. Instead, they're just lying. I mean, Donald Trump is conflating the Ayatollah's unwillingness to completely abandon enrichment, to let America take every last one of his centrifuges out of the country and is conflating that with them having a bomb. This is what George W. Bush called short-handing it.

Starting point is 00:44:28 It's a lie. It's a damned lie and Donald Trump knows it's a lie and his own intelligence agencies told him last week they are not making nukes. And then worse, they were supposed to meet two days ago on Sunday. And apparently here are our choices We don't know for sure. Our choices are either one, Donald Trump in the most dastardly, treacherous, just completely, you know, most gratuitous act of anti diplomacy and with consequences for decades to come for sure was lying and pretending that he was still negotiating with the Iranians,

Starting point is 00:45:06 all the while he was setting them up for the Israelis to go ahead and get them in decapitation strikes and reassuring them that they didn't need to go to alternative locations and whatever to protect themselves. Don't worry, the attack's not coming. We're still negotiating with Donald Trump. And then sneak attacked them in a tocho style fashion I think I said Tom Horton, but I meant Scott Horton He is correct and Trump was lying and I think I know why and I think I can prove it

Starting point is 00:45:35 But first let's go to the other theory which of course involves Tucker or the other alternative is That Donald Trump was negotiating. This is what Tucker Carlson says. He believes he was told that Trump really was negotiating in good faith and he really had told Netanyahu to wait. And then Netanyahu went ahead and did this anyway and is now dragging Donald Trump by the hair into the thing. And then Donald Trump is handling that by saying,

Starting point is 00:46:01 oh yeah, I meant to do that. This was my plan all along. So you take your choice. I think the first is the most likely, that they're telling the truth now when they say that they had agreed to do this and that they were lying and pretending to negotiate. No, I think they were really negotiating.

Starting point is 00:46:17 There's a third option. They were really negotiating and Trump said I'm negotiating, but he knew exactly what would happen on day 61 and that was based upon his 60 days history knowledge. So Scott Horton is not wrong but his conclusion is sad. So I have two series. The first is from the China Observer. Now the China Observer is as far as I can tell a YouTube channel it might be run by NTD or Falun Gong for all I know, but they have a lot of interesting little tidbits about the current Iranian China-Israel situation. According to data from commodity firm Kipler, over 90% of Iran's oil currently go to China.

Starting point is 00:46:56 Most of this oil is sent to small independent refineries in Shandong province, known as teapots. In 2022, in order to secure higher profits, Chinese companies began buying large amounts of Iranian oil under sanctions. Iran has very few other buyers besides China. This puts Iran in a weak position when it comes to pricing. In 2024, an official from Iran's Chamber of Commerce called the trade relationship with China a colonial trap. Because China pays for oil and yuan instead of US dollars, Iran is then forced to use that money to buy large amounts of Chinese goods, deepening its economic dependence on China. Iran exports around 1.7 million barrels of crude oil per day.

Starting point is 00:47:34 If these exports are cut off, China's private refiners would for the first time in years have to buy oil at market prices. As the world's largest oil importer, China has been increasing its reserves for three months straight, adding over one million barrels a day. Associate Professor of Diplomacy, Chengxin Qingmo of Tangkang University in Taiwan said Iran has long relied on China to buy oil because international sanctions have restricted its trade. So this war could have a major impact on China's oil supply.

Starting point is 00:48:01 He also said Russia has wanted to sell more oil to China, but Beijing prefers to diversify its sources. You said something? Yeah. Russia is the beneficiary of this whole situation and they're fine to go along with it. Everybody surrounding Iran is fine going along with the program, whatever the program might be? Well, the program consists of the China-Iran Comprehensive Cooperation Play, which is, and again, I'm sure this is a major anti-China, quote unquote, news outlet, but the details I think are good and they check out. On March 27th, 2021, China and Iran signed a long-term cooperation framework called the good and they check out. five years, and both sides would establish free trade zones. In return, Iran would supply China with oil at stable, low prices and allow China deeper

Starting point is 00:49:08 access to its banking and telecom sectors. This deal was part of China's Belt and Road Initiative. But four years later, the deal has seen slow progress. While China has continued to import large amounts of Iranian oil, other key areas like infrastructure investment have lagged behind. It wasn't until 2023 that Chinese firms secured a few major contracts, including one for building Iran's largest airport. It's worth noting that on June 9th this year, Iran's foreign minister Abbas Araqchi met with Chinese ambassador Song Pei-Wu

Starting point is 00:49:36 and brought up the 25-year agreement again. Su Ziyun, director of Taiwan's Institution for National Defense and Security Research, said that China has mainly used a barter system, exchanging engineering projects and goods, including military equipment for Iranian oil. This has meant to strengthen diplomatic ties between Beijing and Tehran. But even though this relationship looks strong on the surface, war can change everything. If the Iranian regime collapses, that $400 billion deal would become worthless. So when President Trump says, I've been talking about this for 35 years, about Iran not having nuclear bomb, no, what he's been talking about is about China.

Starting point is 00:50:12 He's always been talking about China, the China virus, China this, China's ripping us off. It's always been about China and this is no different because this is, Iran was a key piece for China's Belt and Road Initiative. Diplomacy professor Cheng Qingmu believes that the Chinese Communist Party established its so-called comprehensive partnership with Iran in 2021 to use Iran as a base for expanding influence in the Middle East. The goal was to bring the region into China's Belt and Road Initiative and turn it into a frontline against the West. But so far, this entire plan appears to have failed.

Starting point is 00:50:45 Cheng said that the 2021 agreement was supposed to be a major infrastructure investment plan, 400 billion US dollars over 25 years. But now, less than four years later, the survival of Iran's current regime is already in question. The infrastructure investments China made in Iran are now essentially lost. Similar failures have happened in other Belt and Road projects across the southeast and central China. On June 17, President Trump posted online claiming full control of Iran's airspace and said they had located Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei. He demanded Iran's unconditional surrender and warned that patience is wearing thin. Trump and Israel's

Starting point is 00:51:19 goal is to wipe out Chinese and Russian influences in the Middle East. That way, the US can shift its focus into the Indo-Pacific and counter threats from China. If Iran suffers a serious defeat, China's influence in the region will begin to shrink. The U.S. strategy is clear. Concentrate its efforts on dealing with the Chinese Communist Party. That is indeed the entire focus. And there's another country in there that kind of came and went, and the story was a little quiet, and met with the guy and you know, so basically the Chinese were doing this with Syria as well. Chung added that China has long backed Syria's Assad regime, which has already collapsed.

Starting point is 00:51:55 Iran's regime is now on the edge. With China's support, Iran once helped groups like Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis spread their power in the Middle East. But things have changed and now it's much harder for China to expand in the region. At this point, the US is the one steering the situation in the Middle East. He also noted that while the Israel-Iran conflict was unfolding, Xi Jinping was visiting Kazakhstan. At the same time, both Russia and China have lost their geopolitical foothold in the Middle East. They will likely retreat to Central Asia, which will become the next battleground between the two.

Starting point is 00:52:24 India and Pakistan. East. They will likely retreat to Central Asia, which will become the next battleground between the two. India and Pakistan. The latest pushes between Israel and Iran have captured global attention. On social media, many Iranians have shared videos showing that they welcome change in their country. In one clip, people laugh out loud as they drive past large portraits of Iranian military officers who had just been killed in airstrikes. Young Iranians have long grown resentful of the country's aging political elite, who rule over all rings pretty true. speak up, they said, if you don't obey, they put you on trial. It's about time they got a taste of being judged by bombs. So I think that all rings pretty true.

Starting point is 00:53:09 I agree with that. I want to add a couple of things. Besides the fact that if I had played this clip for you, right about now you'd be complaining about the cadence of the United States. Yes. In fact, I was waiting for you to complain and you didn't do it. I was taking it back. I'm only complaining as if I was you.

Starting point is 00:53:27 Okay. Thank, well, thank you for being so much better than me. I like the China thing, but I like this. I'm not done. I'm waiting for you. I'm waiting for more, but I want to mention that if we remember Libya, you could take the same thesis and put it on Libya. Yep.

Starting point is 00:53:43 Because if you recall, when they went into Libya to rebelize that country, the Chinese were in there. All over the place. All over the place. And it had these buildings that they abandoned and ran for the hills. Yep. There's a whole bunch of structures still standing, I think, in Libya that were projects the Chinese have begun, a lot of infrastructure stuff too

Starting point is 00:54:06 and they just ran for the hills. The Chinese do not want to... No, the Chinese don't they don't actually want face-to-face confrontation. They'd rather give you fentanyl, they'd rather give you fungus, they'd rather fund protests. That's how they that is and I'll give it to the Cuomo kid, that is the smokeless war. That is how the Chinese operate. And it's not stupid. No, it's not stupid, but it's, if you can recognize it, it becomes a problem for them. Indeed. But nobody, by the way, is recognizing this except that woman who can barely speak and you.

Starting point is 00:54:46 Well, wait. That's not true. Wait, there's more. I found the geopolitical economy report, which is hosted by a guy named Ben Norton. He's a lefty. He's a leftist. Monotone. He's a super leftist.

Starting point is 00:55:01 He's no friend or fan of Israel or America, which makes me like him even more to play his clips. And he's part of the gray zone. Now, you know, the gray zone, right? The gray zone outfit. Okay. So the guy is well versed. This was actually over an hour, this whole YouTube video, I pulled a couple of clips, the ones I think are most important. I cut some stuff up because he's talky. He's talky. But he brings it all together in no agenda fashion. And I'm just like, wow, okay. And let's just, so this is the history of how we got here, how we got here and how China fits in and what America and Israel are doing together. And you know, we play different versions of this. This is, I think, the most concise. The US is using Israel as a proxy specifically to redirect blame and literal incoming missiles

Starting point is 00:55:52 away from the US and toward its proxy, Israel. And this isn't in any way to excuse Israel for the horrific crimes it's been carrying out in Gaza, in Syria, in Lebanon, and now in Iran. Of course, Israel is directly responsible for these war crimes and crimes against humanity. But it's important to point out why Israel is carrying out all of these horrific crimes, and it's on behalf of the US Empire. This was spelled out very clearly in a plan that was published by several US government officials for the Washington DC-based think tank, the Brookings Institution, which is very plan that was published by several U.S. government officials for the Washington, D.C. based think

Starting point is 00:56:26 tank, the Brookings Institution, which is very closely linked to the U.S. government and basically acts as a kind of outsourced arm of the U.S. government. In 2009, these U.S. government officials, these U.S. imperial planners published a strategy paper titled, Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy Toward Iran. And chapter five is titled, Leave it to Bibi, that is Benjamin Netanyahu. So leave it to Netanyahu, allowing or encouraging an Israeli military strike on Iran. In this paper, these US government officials at a US government-backed think tank wrote that the US should encourage Israel to attack Iran. And this is what they said, quote, The United States would encourage and perhaps even assist the Israelis in conducting the strikes themselves in the expectation that both international criticism and Iranian retaliation would be deflected away from the United States and on to Israel.

Starting point is 00:57:29 Exactly what we're seeing happen. Exactly. And leave it to Bibi. I think that's kind of funny that they did a little leave it to Beaver play on leave it to Bibi. Let's just remind each other about who Bibi is. This is exactly what the US empire is doing today. I mean, they spelled it out so clearly. It's so obvious. Trump personally gave Israel the green light. He knew about the operation. He helped to plan it.

Starting point is 00:57:55 Trump delivered Israel hundreds of missiles three days before Israel started the war. And the US has been giving Israel billions and billions of dollars of weapons and military assistance for decades, but especially since 2023 to carry out these proxy wars on behalf of the US empire. And this is why the former US Secretary of State Alexander Heg famously said, quote, Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk. It is located in a critical region for American national security, end quote. So in other words, Israel is an unsinkable aircraft carrier for the US Empire. And by the way, Netanyahu is an American. He was raised and educated in the US.

Starting point is 00:58:46 He went to high school and college and got his first job in the US. He had US citizenship twice and he only gave up his US citizenship in order to be Israel's prime minister. But he is an American and what he's doing is serving the interests of the US Empire. Exactly. And so when I hear Tulsi Gabbard come out and say, hey, wait a minute, my intel says there's no nukes. No, of course there's no nukes.

Starting point is 00:59:11 But this is the lie the president is using for a very old play, playbook, I might even say. Well, I don't see the president. They keep you and the other guy, H Horton say the president's lying about what? The president never said that there for sure are nukes. Okay, good point. Good point. Trump is very tricky. I think I did hear him say though at some point they were close, not far away, you know, he might have slipped on that. Well, it depends on, that's a definitional thing. Close. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Well, it depends on that. That's a definitional thing. Close. I'm okay.

Starting point is 00:59:46 I'm okay with that. Two years. I'm okay with that. So technically he's not lying, but he's under the guise of they can't have a nuclear bomb. Something very different is going on and it's been going on for a long time. So this brings me to the first goal of the US-Israeli war on Iran, which is to maintain US hegemony in West Asia, also known as the Middle East.

Starting point is 01:00:07 This was clearly spelled out by the Pentagon, the US Department of Defense, back in 1992 in the infamous Wolfowitz Doctrine. This was a plan that was written by the Undersecretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, a notorious warmonger. And in the Wolfowitz Doctrine, he stated very clearly that the goal of the US Empire was to prevent the rise of any other superpower that could challenge the dominance of the United States in the world. At this time in the 1990s, the Soviet Union had just been overthrown a year before in 1991.

Starting point is 01:00:43 The US was the only major power in the world. It was a unipolar world dominated by the US Empire and they wrote very clearly in this Pentagon document that the quote, goal is to preclude any hostile power from dominating a region critical to our interests end quote and they named several regions. Among them were the Middle East, slash Persian Gulf, and also East Asia. And those are the main two areas today that the US military is targeting, especially under Trump. In East Asia, the US is militarizing the region to try to encircle China as part of the New Cold

Starting point is 01:01:21 War. And now, of course, the US is using Israel to wage war all across the Middle East, West Asia, to try to recreate the region, overthrowing all of the independent governments and propping up pro-U.S. regimes. So Trump's main goal in my mind is China. It's always been China. And there's very good Trumpian reasons for this, mainly inflation. We are the biggest oil producer and gas producer by quite a bit over everybody

Starting point is 01:01:53 else. And we've been shipping off the liquefied natural gas over to Europe. There's even talk of the US now taking over the Nord Stream 2, which I find hilarious. This is about oil politics and oil prices because it always is. Today the US has largely succeeded in weakening OPEC because the US has become the number one producer of oil. But the point is that the US is very concerned about the possibility of oil production and prices of oil in the global market being used as a geopolitical weapon, given that the global South and also Russia and China are leading producers of oil and natural gas in the world.

Starting point is 01:02:38 So if they were to unite and use a cartel like OPEC to control the price of oil or gas, it could cause significant economic damage and would lead to very high rates of inflation. Because when the price of energy goes up, it is an input in basically all other parts of the economy. So when the price of oil and gas goes up, the price of everything else goes up. And this obviously has led to a lot of political instability in the US. So the US is very concerned about the stability of the price of oil and natural gas in global markets. Two more and then I'm done. And

Starting point is 01:03:13 of course this has been staring us in the face since this started and I don't think we bring it up all the time for 17 years we've been talking about this. We didn't bring it up in this latest kerfuffle between Israel and Iran, but here it is. So again this makes it very clear why the US and Israel are waging war on Iran because they already succeeded in overthrowing Syria and removing Syria from the resistance axis and Israel has also been waging war in south Lebanon against Hezbollah, the Lebanese resistance group that has its origins in the 1980s in the fight against Israel's illegal occupation of south Lebanon. So Israel weakened Hezbollah and killed its leadership. Israel has been taking control over Gaza, colonizing Gaza, colonizing the West Bank, which according to international law

Starting point is 01:04:05 is occupied Palestinian territory. The US under Trump and also under Obama and Biden were waging war on Ansar law in Yemen, weakening them. And of course, the US government invaded Iraq two times in the Gulf War and then again in 2003 in the Iraq war and now the final target is Iran which the US and Israel are now attacking. This was famously admitted by Wesley Clark the former US general and commander of NATO. Back in 2007 in an interview he admitted that the US military had made plans to overthrow the governments of seven countries in five years. He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the secretary of defense office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years,

Starting point is 01:04:59 starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. And after we got Syria, we had them all. And the very good question in the troll room, why don't they just tell us this is what's going on? Because it does, this is marketing. Trump is marketing. But nuke, nuke, have a nuke. Everyone's afraid of a nuke. It's a nuke. He does not want to tip his hat, so to speak, although I think the Chinese are not stupid. This is a war against the BRICS and the BRICS is the final clip and this really brings it all together and it makes sense.

Starting point is 01:05:35 I really believe that President Trump talked to Iran and said, hey, we can do better business. You guys with us guys, don't go into business with the guys. Don't go into business with the Chinese. Don't go into business with the Russians. Do business with us. We've already got the Saudis on board, we think. Come on, don't be idiots because I don't want to have to play my other card, which means I activate BB. Which brings us to one last point, which I'll make after you play this clip.

Starting point is 01:06:02 Iran has good relations with many countries in Africa and Iran has become very close to China and Russia. And in 2023, the BRIC Summit was held in South Africa and Iran was invited to become a full member and of course it accepted this invitation. And as of the 1st of January 2024, Iran has been a full member of BRICS, along with the original five members, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, as well as Egypt, the UAE, Ethiopia, and Indonesia. And Saudi Arabia has been invited to join BRICS, although it has not officially given

Starting point is 01:06:42 an answer. It's likely that Riyadh is using that as a bargaining chip with Washington and saying to Washington, well, if you put too much pressure on us, we'll join BRICS. So it's a card they can always play. But getting back to Iran. So Iran is now a full member of BRICS and when Iran officially joined the Global South led organization, the Iranian state media outlet Noor News published an article explaining its goals. It noted that Iran is seeking to, quote, lessen the influence of imposed sanctions over its economy, end quote.

Starting point is 01:07:18 They also said that BRICS will help to challenge the, quote, current unilateral world order, end quote. So they're talking about the US dominated unipolar order, creating a more multipolar world. And then finally, this is a very important quote. Iran's state media outlet said that by joining BRICS, this will quote, deepen the current existing relations between Beijing, Moscow and Tehran as the three main architects of the New World Order." So Iran is saying we have an alliance with China and Russia to challenge the US Empire. So it's obvious why the US Empire is so concerned about this

Starting point is 01:08:04 and is trying to do everything it can to divide this alliance. So the way I see it, President Trump gave them a very easy out and said, look, stop doing business with those guys. You're a can't you're the linchpin in the middle of the Middle East. We need to have you guys with us. And I think he was genuinely sad that he had to have Bibi go and kick off this missile back and forth because people die.

Starting point is 01:08:30 None of it's great. I don't like it either. But honestly, I'd rather have the United States being the unipolar power in the world than Russia, China. China. China, because they will- You pay now. China. China because they will... You pay now.

Starting point is 01:08:46 They will lock you down. And so President Trump is America first. This is what he was voted in for and it's an ugly business. It's a racket because everybody's making money on this at the same time. But I think he is truly doing what is the best thing for America right now. And maybe one day people will see it for what it is instead of running around like a bunch of chickens with your head cut off saying, Israel, Israel, you got the goods on Trump, but with PPT, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, this is to protect, I think,

Starting point is 01:09:20 peace in the world long term. Let's add one more theory, which is one we've talked about before. And we'll bring it back. And I saw another guy come out, another Middle Eastern guy come out with it, which is the fact that, uh, this is all theater. People are getting killed, but it's not getting, they're not getting killed at the rate that they could be getting killed. No, it's, everyone they're not getting killed at the rate that they could be getting killed us. No, it's

Starting point is 01:09:45 running out of ammo to the Miss the idea that Israel the United States and Iran are doing back channeling They've always been doing that. Yep, and and the whole idea is to get Why Trump had to kill Soleimani and they killed a head of a monster. They're taking out everybody except Komeni killed the head of a monster, they're taking out everybody except Komeni. Oh no, because they need him like, who was the... They need a guy. They need somebody. They need the guy to sign the documents just like we did with Japan. They've got to get rid of all the hardliners.

Starting point is 01:10:16 Yes. And the scheme that just took place like yesterday, which was the one where the Israelis, they said they were going to do something. It hasn't been played up as much as they could have been. They took out another group of army guys by setting up a fake meeting. They sent them all, you know, sort of texts or something. They all mess up. Well, come over here. Don't worry.

Starting point is 01:10:37 You got to make me, it's important. Stand in this circle. Stand in this circle. And they blew them all up. And this, but they're all hardliners and they got to get rid of all the hardliners. And that's the reason that Trump told Netanyahu not to kill Komeni. And the people of Iran are cheering. They're happy. They say, that's what we're told. No, I mean, I mean, there is a young country. Yes, very young. They can't be unhappy. No, very young. And you need Komeni to sign the papers like the emperor of Japan in World War II. You need someone of authority to say, yep, okay, well, I guess we're not going to do

Starting point is 01:11:12 that. That's where they didn't kill the emperor. Yes. And of course. So you have, so this whole thing is the way it's being, and it's odd that the two boomers that do this show, I think we see through most of the bull crap. You're right, I think China is a key element.

Starting point is 01:11:32 A lot of this is bull crap. Trump's doing the right thing. He's not a liar. But you've got the Bannons and the Tuckers and these- Everybody and Dave Smith and Scott Horton everyone's running around it. Israel owns us they run everything. No, I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. Well Israel's and and by the way this country is shaped like an aircraft carrier too if you take a look at it. Releasing the Epstein tapes would help a lot. I'll be honest about it. That doesn't help

Starting point is 01:12:07 in any way. Which brings me to the bogus Jouffre eclipse, which I have. Have you familiar with it? Well, with the Virginia. Yes, I am. But before you do that, I want to play this because it's gotten to such a level I can't believe ABC didn't understand what this was about this morning authorities are investigating Anonymous pizza deliveries sent to members of Congress and the people who protect them sources tell ABC News multiple lawmakers both Democrats and Republicans Along with US Capitol police leaders have received unsolicited pizzas at their homes

Starting point is 01:12:45 They don't understand what it's about really pizza pizza gate Pedophilia child stuff is that you don't understand what this message is about No, the deliveries likely aimed at sending the message. We know where you live Capital police saying these recent pizza deliveries are troubling and yet again bring to light the heightened threat landscape we are living in. Yeah, so that just goes on. I thought it was hilarious that they're sending pizzas and no one's making the connection at ABC at least.

Starting point is 01:13:17 ABC. It's so obvious. ABC owned by Disney, hello. Yes, let's do Virginia Dufres. Okay. So these tapes show up and the first place that they come up is that, you know, this one guy, I can never remember the awful truth is the name of the podcast. I can't remember the name of the podcast, but it's that British guy and he's always got his head cocked like to a... Oh, that guy.

Starting point is 01:13:41 That guy. That's a great podcast. That is the most conspiratorial thing ever. What is the guy's name? What is his name? He's so full of it. So he's got the tapes. So this is supposedly a dead man switch series of revelations that are going to come out from Virginia Goofrey. Goofrey. Whatever. And she... She, uh, I mean, she's dead. She's dead. And this is a dead man. She said it.

Starting point is 01:14:08 She says, she explains it. She's a dead man's dead men's, which I dispute the authenticity because of something she said in here. I think these are AI generated. I think they're, uh, I like them and I think they're entertaining. And I think it's funny. And I think if they keep coming out with these is going to be great, but I don't believe them.

Starting point is 01:14:30 If you're watching this, it means they got me. My dead man switch activated automatically after I missed two scheduled check-ins. I had it set up months ago because I knew this day was coming. I did not die by accident. I was murdered to keep their secrets buried. My name is Virginia Louise Joufray. was coming. I did not die by accident. I was murdered to keep their secrets buried. My name is Virginia Louise Dufray. I was one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims. I survived Little St. James, but survival came at a price. I saw too much, knew too much, and now they've

Starting point is 01:14:59 silenced me. But it's too late for them. They thought killing me would bury their secrets, but this video is going to a few organizations I trust, ones that have been exposing the truth for decades. You know who you are. It's your job to continue this fight. I was 16 when they reeled me in. I worked at Mar-a-Lago, folding towels, cleaning lockers. My father kept the tennis courts immaculate. We were just working folks trying to scrape by.

Starting point is 01:15:28 Trump, he was around, but he was never the threat. The real predator was Gill Lane Maxwell, prim and proper, smiling, promising to teach me massage therapy at the Pink Mansion in Palm Beach. I had no idea I was being fed into a nightmare machine. Epstein's Island was hell disguised as paradise. You've heard some names linked to him, but those are just the sacrificial pawns. The real players, the ones they've protected at all costs,

Starting point is 01:15:57 are still hiding in plain sight. I'll name two now. Now, who else got these tapes, so-called tapes? Well, that's the question I have because I know that this awful truth show or whatever is called, I like the name of it. I mean, it's not the awful truth. It should be. She says she sent it out to these people. I don't know. There hasn't been any follow-up on this. It hasn't been covered much. No one's even come out and called it a fraud or AI or whatever. It's just this kind of just ambling along on the social networks and I find the whole thing peculiar.

Starting point is 01:16:42 What is the name of this podcast with that guy? Somebody in the... You know for a fact that... I've been waiting for them to tell me, but oh, the real people's voice, I think it is. Does that make sense? It could be. I think it's the real people's voice. Anyway, here's the next one. I'll name two now. The first, a former US president, Barack Obama. Publicly, he's revered. Privately,

Starting point is 01:17:06 he was one of the worst. He wasn't there for the girls. He was there for the island boys. Young boys trafficked and groomed. I saw him more times than I can count, always without his Secret Service detail, sometimes with his Hollywood friends, George Clooney and Tom Hanks. I still have nightmares about them, arrogant and drunk on power, slinking into the cabanas with kids barely out of childhood. The second, Bill Gates, the billionaire philanthropist loved by the media, hailed as a savior. We called him the benefactor and we used to dread seeing him naked, but he didn't come to party. He came to experiment, genetic experiments, human experiments. I

Starting point is 01:17:45 saw him inject a young girl with something they said was a genetic enhancement. She was younger than me, strapped to a table, terrified, treated like a lab rat while they muttered about seeding the future of the species. These men think they are gods playing with life like it was theirs to own. I'm telling you now, Epstein isn't dead. They staged his death because he was too valuable. He held blackmail on some of the most powerful people on earth, files, videos, confessions. They couldn't risk him talking,

Starting point is 01:18:17 but they also couldn't risk him gone, so they hid him, stashed him under the protection of the same elite who once paid him to supply them with flesh. And they thought killing me would stop this from coming out. They were wrong. And there is so much more to come. Hidden servers, encrypted drives, witness testimonies. It's all going to hit the light.

Starting point is 01:18:38 This video is just the first detonation. The data drops are timed and automatic. They are going to people who can make a difference and nobody can stop it now. Not even the law enforcement agencies in the US and UK, the same ones that buried the evidence I handed them can stop this truth from getting out. If you're watching this, you are the resistance. Don't let my death be just another headline. Burn their lives to the ground. Make the world see the monsters behind the masks. And to any survivors out there, don't give up.

Starting point is 01:19:09 We're in this together. They can't kill us all. Make them pay. Well, so these videos are, I guess, just audio over a still frame. Yep. And when you say data drops and detonate, I'm like, no, it sounds very anonymous type AI work to me.

Starting point is 01:19:29 Not that I don't want to believe it. Not that I don't want to believe it. I mean, it's interesting. Let's look at it as entertainment. But the date is the gate stuff that triggered me. It's her comment. I've known Bill for 40 years. If I saw, I haven't seen him for a decade or more, but if I saw him, we know each other. He liked mom types. Sorry? He liked mothers. He didn't like young girls.

Starting point is 01:19:56 No, no. Well, he did like, no, he did like young girls. That's the key. I can tell you this. Young, petite, blondes. when she said he didn't come for the girls There's no way I thought that's what she said about Barack Obama No, yeah, no, she said about gates to she said he didn't come for the girls He's right. Actually both of them He said that about Barack because he came for the boys, but Bill didn't come for the girls also, he came to inject people with genetic material or something for the future. This is bull crap.

Starting point is 01:20:33 Well, if anything, Bill Gates is notorious for chasing women. I mean, I've told the stories before about pick me, Bill, the t-shirts and the whole thing. It's just like, no, he's not going to be walking around naked and then injecting girls with the genetic material. This makes no sense. I want it to make sense, John. I want it to be true. This is so good. It's so juicy. Well, hopefully she'll have more material that we can mock, but, uh, or she, it, whatever this thing. This is the first, uh, data, data dump, the first detonation. There's much more illiteration to come.

Starting point is 01:21:15 It's going to come out time because it takes that long to get these, these, uh, the voice, right. But maybe she, you know, maybe she's not dead. That, that thought crossed my mind. Well, that's always possible too. Whatever the case is, this is a smokescreen for us. I mean, there is, they could do something. They could help us out here, the government,

Starting point is 01:21:36 with, I don't know, 10,000 hours of tapes. Is that what the number they threw at us? Let's put it this way. This is better than what the government's given us so far. This is great. This is dynamite material. If you haven't heard it now, you know. That's good. Let me just play two quick clips here because the Paris Air Show is on, which is not really in Paris. It's in Le Bourget. I've been to this air show.

Starting point is 01:22:02 which is not really in Paris, it's in Le Bourget. I've been to this air show. I found it extremely boring. There's a bunch of guys in uniforms walking around, a bunch of guys in suits, and it's all about war stuff. And CNBC caught up with the COO of Lockheed Martin. And I would say that Mark Rutte is doing his job very well. Hi, welcome back to Paris and the Paris Air Show. I'm Philip O. Live with the COO of Lockheed Martin, say that Mark Rutte is doing his job very well. everything we're seeing Ukraine, the Middle East or are we sort of in those middle innings? Where would you say we are? Hey Phil, good to see you again and I would say we are in probably the beginning of a three to five year surge in defense spending especially here in Europe.

Starting point is 01:22:56 The first couple of years there was a lot of dialogue and understanding the issue and understanding the demand for deterrence capability. Now we're starting to see those budgets come into play in the European countries, as well as some increases back in the U.S. domestically. So I think for the next three to five years, budgets are going to be pretty substantial. Business is up. Everything's groovy. We're just in the first inning of the game. This is great.

Starting point is 01:23:20 It sounds like. And then he asked him about the Golden Dome. Back in the US a lot of people have heard the president talk about the Golden Dome missile defense system. On paper, it makes sense. But you know there are more than a few cynics out there saying, now wait a second, a huge country like the United States, could Golden Dome actually work? Give me your perspective in terms of not only can it work, you obviously believe in that, but how quickly could we see a system implemented?

Starting point is 01:23:48 Well as the world's leader in integrated air and missile defense, Lockheed Martin is really proud to be part of bringing President Trump's vision to pass. And there are a lot of existing capabilities, be it space-based sensing, command and control, surface-based sensing, and effectors that have been proven in conflict over the last several years that are already in existence. The real challenge is scaling that up in quantity and then creating the integration of those separate pieces. And so we definitely think something can be fielded on a rapid pace.

Starting point is 01:24:19 When you say rapid, I know the timeframe of three to four years has been thrown out there. Is that realistic? Oh yeah. No problem. It's very realistic to have a basic capability on the field within a couple of years and then in parallel be developing the more advanced threat deterrents, things like space-based interceptors and the like. How much do the drone threats that are out there now change?

Starting point is 01:24:40 Oh, wait for it. Directed energy weapons. It's not true. They don't exist. No one uses them. Conspiracy theory. Well, it's interesting because the drone threats are, if they're large, we're gonna be seeing them handled

Starting point is 01:24:53 by the kind of systems we're seeing operating in the Middle East today. The smaller drone threats, we're actively working on laser weapon systems, high powered microwaves, ways to deal with those smaller drone threats down kind of in a lower layer. Oh, what a bonanza.

Starting point is 01:25:07 What a bonanza. So in short, to summarize the first hour of the show, there's not going to be a nuclear war. When you see on Instagram, someone said, oh, Iranian state media released a video of a guy stroking a bomb that had a big nuclear symbol on it. It's not going to happen. Just look at the floor. The spinning will stop.

Starting point is 01:25:31 It's all going to be okay. For now. For now. For now. For now. Yes. Now what won't be okay is Big Pharma. Big Pharma under a lot of pressure right now as RFK Jr. is definitely talking about restricting advertising of pharma products on television.

Starting point is 01:26:09 And even CNN had an article like, this will hurt news coverage. Oh, it's going to hurt us. This will hurt news coverage because that's all of our advert- they're just coming out and saying it now, which is the funniest thing. Then the way he's gonna do it, this is according to Bloomberg. So before the loosening of advertising regulations by the FDA in 1997,

Starting point is 01:26:34 US pharma companies had to list all possible side effects for medication if they wanted to mention which condition the drug was being advertised wasn't intended to treat. Reading out the long list of side effects took too long and it drove up the cost for airtime too high, meant there wasn't as much broadcast advertising as there is today. The FDA changed this and allowed ads to disclose fewer side effects like death and also allowed companies to direct customers to talk to their doctor, call a phone number or visit a website to get more

Starting point is 01:27:13 information. So rolling that back by itself will first of all be a bonanza for the television, particularly television news. Yeah, because the 30 second ads have to go to 60 seconds to get in all the bad stuff. Exactly. Exactly. And this ACIP that, that everyone's making such a big fuss about the advisory panel on, on biologics and of course that's really vaccines. panel on biologics and of course that's really vaccines. So RFK Jr. discussed some of the issues. You remember that I think it was this Celine Gounder, a CBS doctor said, well, this was just

Starting point is 01:27:58 like they just dated something wrong on one of their disclosure forms and we went and looked at the disclosure form and no, the report, the report was much more damning. She was misleading the audience. Well, she was lying. But you look at the report, it's like, well, 40% didn't even sign the disclosure form, didn't hand it in, they didn't list all the disclosures. And here's RFK Jr. talking about one particular doctor, Dr. Paul off it. So practically What do you think will be the outcomes of a pregnant women not being able to get back? So I'm sorry. I'm sorry That's the wrong. That's the wrong clip. Here it is. This is it Sorry about the audio but this is just what I got In 2002, the government oversight committee held hearings about AIDS that lasted almost a year and they issued a scathing report about the institutionalized conflicts of interest

Starting point is 01:28:56 and corruption. One of the examples they gave was that four out of the five members who voted to recommend the rotavirus vaccine to this schedule had a direct financial interest in that vaccine. One of those individuals voted to add it to the schedule and then he subsequently sold his vaccine. He owned and developed, there's a guy called Dr. Paul Offit, sold his share, his patent on the vaccine for $186 million. So he said he won the lottery because of his vote. That panel found that 97% of the people on the committee had conflicts of interest.

Starting point is 01:29:40 So Dr. Paul Offit, $186 million, nice little payday for voting for a vaccine that you then sold the patent to. And here's Dr. Paul Offit now about this non, this taking the COVID vaccine of which he was a huge beneficiary of approving it. What he's saying about this no longer being recommended. So practically, what do you think will be the outcomes of pregnant women not being able to get vaccinated against COVID?

Starting point is 01:30:11 What you'd like to see is you would like to see what is inevitable happening, which is that a pregnant person gets COVID, suffers severely or dies. And then there's a lawsuit against the federal government saying that I couldn't get this. I couldn't afford the vaccine and I couldn't I couldn't pay for it and my insurance company wouldn't pay for it. And my doctor was scared to give it. And now you know I suffered or in the case of the family this person has died and they they sue the federal government for what should be an

Starting point is 01:30:41 obviously winnable lawsuit which is that every other country considers this to be a high-risk condition. We don't. You made it much more difficult for me to get this vaccine and I'm going to sue you for it. So you can't sue the manufacturers of vaccines when you are injured by their product, but this doctor in the pharmaceutical industry says, well, you should be able to sue the government for telling you not to take it. What an upside down world these people live in. And a pregnant person, person, pregnant person, yeah, pregnant person should die and then they can have a lawsuit. That's what I want. I want someone to die. That's what he said. Yeah, it's literally what he said.

Starting point is 01:31:21 Yeah, horrible man. He is a a horrible man what do you have a Naomi wolf she's my I love my no me wolf tell me what you got a no me wolf I this is an indictment she had an emf guy on who was just a emf emf like what what is an EMF guy? Oh, not EMF. IMF. No, no, no. EMP. No. Make up your mind.

Starting point is 01:31:54 I'm trying to get it. It's the electromagnetic field, EMF. Oh, EMF. So like Wi-Fi signals and stuff? Yeah, Wi-Fi signals, signals from your satellite dish. Oh yeah, okay. So like Wi-Fi signals and stuff? Yeah, Wi-Fi signals. Signals from your satellite dish. Oh yeah, okay. I got it. Okay, so EMF. She's got an EMF guy on her selling some product or something. Well, let me give you a guess. A bracelet. A bracelet that will...

Starting point is 01:32:16 Similar. Yeah, okay. So she... When I heard this, this is just a clip. This is just a condemnation clip. We play these once in a while. I dig them up, you dig them up, we both do this, this is just a clip, this is just a condemnation clip. We play these once in a while. I dig them up, you dig them up, we both do it. And it's a clip showing that the person that we're listening to and you have an admiration for is an idiot.

Starting point is 01:32:35 Yes, that's fine. I can still admire her whether she's an idiot. So this is a clip that proves she's an idiot. She has this guy on about EMF. So this is a clip that proves she's an idiot. She has this guy on about EMF and he's talking about, you know, this what you can and can't do to minimize. Like I have, I'm on board with this idea

Starting point is 01:32:56 of minimizing our availability to get and blasted by all these radio waves. And that's why I have the home networking thing as opposed to the wifi. I know. I'm not, I'm not, I'm on board with you on that for sure. Yeah. And I took a wifi router or not a router, but a repeater that was in my bedroom. Oh bad. We have no wifi. Oh yeah. No, I that's good. It's been gone for years, but I,

Starting point is 01:33:22 but I noticed my sleep improved. Sure. So there's something to it, but not this. Now this is the, this is the, she's an idiot clip about her and her concerns about the radio frequency problems. The EMFs, wow. So there are other EMF product companies out there, I know, because I spent $400 on a little kind of pendant that's supposed to protect you from EMFs. And my husband was like,

Starting point is 01:33:53 are you insane? Like this is voodoo, you know, how do you know this is going to work? And I have no evidence that it worked. But $400? She has a pendant she wears. She spent $400 for. Wow, exit strategy, bro. We are doing the, we got to be selling pendants. And you know what we have? We got med beds. That's what we have. We got med beds for y'all. Don't worry. We're going to fix all that ails you with the med bed. So I had to get that clip just to say hey okay. Poor Naomi. Yeah that's kind of bad. Yeah she's very and throughout this discussion she had a lot of oh wow's and oh my god oh my god because she didn't know anything she's so science illiterate that she was just clueless.

Starting point is 01:34:45 This guy's just bulldozing her. And it was just, it was a pathetic, pathetic presentation. Well, let's just stay on that and preventing yourself from death from all kinds of horrible things. This is CBS and this is a breakthrough. We have a breakthrough. Now to that breakthrough in the battle against AIDS decades after an AIDS diagnosis was a death sentence.

Starting point is 01:35:13 The FDA today approved the first drug that is almost totally effective in preventing the disease. It is Lenin Capavir. To show you just how far we've come. The CDC reported the first cases in 1981 the next year the disease got a name acquired immune deficiency syndrome at high risk were gay men and intravenous drug users it would be four years 1985 before President Reagan first mentioned AIDS that same year actor Rock Hudson announced he had it in In 1987 the FDA approved the first

Starting point is 01:35:47 AIDS treatment AZT. Yeah that was a good one Fauci. In 1991 Magic Johnson of the LA Lakers announced he was HIV positive. In 1992 AIDS became the number one cause of death for American men ages 25 to 44. After treatment of AZT. In 1997, highly active antiretroviral therapy increased HIV life expectancy by 15 years. In 2021, the FDA approved the first long acting shot used for HIV treatment. Since 1981, more than 700,000 people in this country have died of AIDS. So, what is this wonder drug? Tell us more about it. And Dr. John Lapoupe joins us now. John, people are using the word breakthrough for this. Does it warrant that? This is huge. I remember my first patient with HIV AIDS, March of 1981, first bed on the left.

Starting point is 01:36:42 It was the first bed on the left. By the way, this is an ad, just so you know. This is a marketing exercise with a very specific reason. He died. You think this is a native ad? You think they're paid for the term? Yeah, well, it's not necessary to sell the product, but they need something else. The product is new and you'll hear it.

Starting point is 01:37:00 But on the left, he died and so did every single patient with HIV I saw for years. Then we had these new drugs that were effective and the concept of taking a pill every day to prevent HIV AIDS. The problem was people weren't compliant. They weren't taking it. It was hard to get it to people and there was a stigma associated with taking it. By the way, all bull crap.

Starting point is 01:37:20 PrEP has been nothing but advertised to death on television and people didn't comply. Let me see. You don't want to die because of what you've been told. So you have to take a pill. I think the pill is even once a week. And that was the problem. The problem was people did, they wanted to die. They didn't take the pill.

Starting point is 01:37:40 It was hard to get bull crap, bull crap. It was, it was, it's on the insurance schedule, everything. This is not true. The problem was people weren't compliant. They weren't taking it. It was hard to get it to people. And there was a stigma associated with taking it. Now you have a stigma of taking a pill at home.

Starting point is 01:37:56 Really? An injection twice a year. That's more than 99.9% effective at preventive preventing HIV AIDS in people at high risk. What are the obstacles that remain here, John? We're hearing the cost is super high. Oh, there it is. I spoke to a spokeswoman today from Gilead. She said it's going to be about $28,000 a year at list price.

Starting point is 01:38:15 But they're making all sorts of efforts, she said, to make it... I like that. At list price. Best price. Best price. $28,000. Best price. Best price.

Starting point is 01:38:24 A year at list price. But they're making all sorts of efforts, she said, to make it more widely available to everyone. But the problem, of course, is in the United States, we have decreased support from federal programs both inside the United States and abroad for HIV prevention. So the question remains, are we going to be able to have access and use and instructions for people who need it. My goodness. Isn't there a $1 solution, which I was told as a kid, wear a condom. Wasn't that the $1 solution to this problem?

Starting point is 01:38:59 No, I think they're more probably the ones I need. That was good. The timing was good. It was in line. Thank you. I appreciate it. You must have… No, I didn't write it down. That came out on the fly. It's funny because I know you couldn't have. On the fly. So, my goodness, my goodness.

Starting point is 01:39:18 It's like, no, one day they should really publish… I have so many books on… because I lost a lot of friends. People I knew, they all died of AIDS after AZT treatment. They went into the hospital and that was it. Oh, I test it was like COVID. It was the same people. Birx and Fauci. Now I tested positive.

Starting point is 01:39:40 I'm going to hospital. Didn't come out. Oh, I tested positive for COVID. When the hospital didn't come out. Oh, I tested positive for COVID, we're in the hospital, didn't come out. Ugh, these ghouls, these ghouls, these people. And now, oh, we need government money for this. For this, oh, it's only a shot. Well, I thought the messaging in that particular presentation, I'll call it, was really just to get you to associate that with the pregnant woman that can't get the shot because she can't afford it or whatever. Oh, you know, we got a boots on the ground from one of our producers.

Starting point is 01:40:16 Let me read this to you. From the Douchebag Mailman. My wife is five months pregnant. She's 30, I'm 35. We've been trying to get pregnant for six years with no success, which I attributed to vaccines I received while in the Air Force. My wife has been adamant since day one of her pregnancy, so I guess it worked, that she doesn't want hospitals involved at all, but started all of her appointments through a local women's clinic because of our insurance. After much research on vaccines and the vitamin K shot, we both agreed we will leave our

Starting point is 01:40:44 baby's health to God and respond as responsible parents, but we did not want to take the chance with any VACs. So I had to test my doctor without letting her know our position. I said to my doctor, we don't have an opinion yet, but this is our first baby, so we don't know what we don't know. And we'd love to know your opinions about vaccines. She starts explaining how privileged she is to be in the medical field so she doesn't even have to research the vaccines that she feels are bad for people like us because of all the misinformation out there. She explains how we as a country are going back in time because of anti-vaxxers and how many cases of measles and polio have already been

Starting point is 01:41:20 reported. Really? Polio? Five minutes of doom and gloom. Obviously, I'm nodding along like I'm totally eating her BS, but I can see my wife about to blow up. So even though I knew we would never see this doctor again, I wanted to see how deep the hole goes. I said, what brought this conversation up as a commercial for the COVID vaccine and how safe it is for pregnant women?

Starting point is 01:41:42 So we wanted to get it, but we wanna get your input before we do. She turns to my wife and says, if we have a COVID outbreak, the first people who are going to die is the pregnant woman. I recommend you both get the vaccine to protect yourselves and your baby. You could see as she walked out how proud of herself

Starting point is 01:41:58 she was for convincing us that there are zero reasons to question a vaccine. We have an appointment with the midwife this week. We'll be having at home water births. Screw the experts. In the morning to you both. Yeah, good job. Good job.

Starting point is 01:42:12 Excellent report. Excellent report. All that was missing was a recording. Yeah, yeah. Come on people, wear a wire. Do better. Do a, yes, do better. Wear a wire. Wear a wire.

Starting point is 01:42:26 Wear a wire. Come on. Get a good cell phone program and just leave the phone on the record. Because the cell phones record very well. Yeah, well the iPhone has a built-in recorder. You can just use that. Just put that on and record the conversation. Real easy. What else you got, John? We got a few minutes before we take a break.

Starting point is 01:42:46 I got some TikTok stuff. I got a crazy, I got the Hitman stories. We got, how much time do we have? I also have the long Aisha, the black chick on PBR. Let's do Aisha. That'll fit nicely. I think that time. Okay, well this is long. This is long, but they're short, luckily. It's long, but they're short. I'm confused. This is a long fight. This is a but they're short luckily. It's long but they're short. I'm confused Long but they're short. This is about a thing they're trying to do

Starting point is 01:43:13 This is What are the two main problems in the country right now? Have you had two concerns? Me personally No, then in general that, everybody has these two. There's only two. Main concerns, the real big problems, not Trump. No. Inflation?

Starting point is 01:43:34 No. Well, then I'm lost. That was my big one. Housing's number one. Housing, cost of housing, okay, yeah. Climate change. I'm sorry. I should have known better. How can I be so stupid?

Starting point is 01:43:52 Climate change. Why isn't that number one? No, housing is number one because it's not number one in this presentation because they're talking about something called the green social housing. And that's not the clip. The clip we were listening to is Laisha Aisha's big story number one we go beyond the news to bring you one big story on the show you know we often talk a lot about the problems facing our country and our world but today we have

Starting point is 01:44:20 a story about a solution it addresses two of the biggest problems affecting people across the country, housing and climate change. Wow. They played that horn on NPR. I'm baffled. Amazing. So that now we got two. By the way, the troll room has different priorities like Like one, drugs. Two, how to get them.

Starting point is 01:44:46 I'd be like, yeah, OK. Yeah, well, that's more likely to be the real problem. The real consensus as opposed to housing and climate change. You're played two. To tell us more, we have NPR's climate solutions correspondent, Julia Simon. I want this job.

Starting point is 01:45:01 Climate solutions correspondent. Not the climate correspondent, not the weather correspondent. Climate solutions course, not the climate correspondent, not the weather correspondent, climate solutions correspondent. To tell us more, we have NPR's climate solutions correspondent, Julia Simon. Hello, Ayesha. Today, I want to take you to a place that's working to combat climate change through their housing. That place is Vienna. So Vienna, Austria? You're not talking about like Vienna, Virginia. You know where I get my scripts from. Okay, okay. Julia, how did you find yourself reporting on climate and housing in Vienna? And it seems like you're very good at- Wait a minute, did they put this this Viennese waltz underneath the music or did you do that?

Starting point is 01:45:51 No, I didn't do it. I cut out most of it because they actually play half of the Blue Danube. Oh brother. Julia, like how did you find yourself reporting on climate and housing in Vienna? And it seems like you're very good at getting these good gigs. Oh my goodness, you are right. And like many great adventures, this one started at a happy hour, a happy hour for climate researchers. These climate researchers, they kept repeating one word over and over, Vienna, Vienna, Vienna. I was like, what is the deal with Vienna? I had to find out.

Starting point is 01:46:23 A few months ago, my colleague Ryan Kellman and I traveled to the Austrian capital. My hat just flew off because it's very windy. We were in this big, grassy park with playgrounds full of kids. There's a bunch of apartment buildings around this park, but one that stands out. It's a modern building. It's lots of wood, lots of windows. On one of the top floors, I see a guy in a beanie waving. That's him waving to us. And we finally catch up to him. How are you?

Starting point is 01:46:51 I'm fine, and you? Great. This is Sebastian. Oh my goodness. Schublach, if you need the full name. Schublach works at a think tank. He's lived in this modern building for about six years with his wife and two young daughters.

Starting point is 01:47:04 He loves talking about his apartment building. So he takes us on a tour. Should we go upstairs? Yes, let's do it. It's six floors, plus a basement, 34 apartments, lots of shared amenities. Look at how beautiful. Like a library.

Starting point is 01:47:19 Another sunlit library. A rooftop garden. Did she mention what think tank this guy works for? Is he working in some kind of climate solutions think tank? No, she never does. Wow. And by the way, these clips, we're on the three, I think. This is from, this presentation must have been 45 minutes. Well, we had to make up for the cost of it to send these nut jobs to Vienna to go, Hi, hey, hi, hi. That's pretty much, yeah, that's pretty much it.

Starting point is 01:47:51 And then, okay, we're going to three. Here we go. And Ayesha, there are a lot of climate-friendly aspects, things that help the building reduce planet heating pollution. The plants on the roof roof they help keep the building cool in the summer so it uses less energy. There are solar panels. They're on the rooftop. Oh just over there. There are cool window shades on the outside of the apartment that help keep out the sunlight and the heat in summer. Schubloch uses a switch to put them up and down. Do you mind showing us?

Starting point is 01:48:21 them up and down. Do you mind showing us? A switch! A switch! This all sounds really nice, but I mean he must be paying a lot for this. A lot for this! For the plants on the roof? Electric switch to close the blinds basically. How is that climate friendly?

Starting point is 01:48:40 It doesn't sound climate friendly to me. No! Yeah, it's using electricity. It should be charging a Tesla with me. No, it's using electricity. Should be charging a Tesla with it. Oh, I'm sorry. We don't buy Teslas anymore. Wow. So we go on to clip four, which is Aisha reading her script and she says, how much does it

Starting point is 01:48:59 cost? And so they tell, oh, it's not that bad. And I'll go on all right, go on. Well, for a four bedroom utilities included plus the shared space, he pays about 1,700 US dollars a month. Which is not cheap, cheap, but it is definitely affordable. Oh God, you don't wanna know

Starting point is 01:49:16 what people are paying in America. No, I know. No, I know. And he said the whole reason we came to Vienna is because this climate friendly apartment, it's not some fancy private apartment. It's actually subsidized by Vienna's city government. It's something called social housing.

Starting point is 01:49:35 Oh, dude. Okay. So now I know what to tell my daughter. Can I just take a interrupt before you get to your big pay off? Yeah, please. I only have two clips left. Because Christina and Kevin, they want to start a family and they're looking for an apartment with two, it'd be great if it had three bedrooms, they'd settle for two.

Starting point is 01:49:58 And they can't find it because they don't qualify for social housing or climate friendly social subsidized housing. And because of the asylum seekers who get all the housing, it's impossible to find anything. And they're really having a tough time. And now I'm like, you need to go to a climate social subsidized housing. I get a teller. By the way, if anyone knows anything in Rotterdam, even outside of Rotterdam, please email me adammccurry.com. They're desperate. So there you go. My commercial is done. That was good. Yeah. Okay. Four. No, five. Isn't

Starting point is 01:50:36 it five? Five. Five. Okay. And so social housing, is that public housing? Like what exactly is that? Social housing, it's kind of like public housing. It's the government playing a role. And look, we're in this moment when the Trump administration is posing big cuts to public housing, cutting funding to reduce climate pollution. You might think now is a bad time to learn

Starting point is 01:50:59 about climate friendly housing in Vienna, but in places like Chicago and Denver, government officials think now is actually a great time. Yeah, yeah, it's a great time. Because of Trump. Trump is... So this goes on and on and on and on and on and they come up with this term green social housing or something. It's like government housing. No, it's government housing. Not like. It is government housing. So they bring this up and the last clip is the one that says green social

Starting point is 01:51:33 housing, which is government housing and about what's going on. Chicago is implementing this and we have to think back historically. Chicago is always the key. Chicago is the one that built the tenements that they had to tear down one after the other because it was, it was ridden with gangs. Chicago is always doing this stuff and they're always failing over and over and over again and here they are again because now there's a green component to the argument.

Starting point is 01:52:02 So we're going to have these crap apartments built in Chicago for whatever reason, if they can get enough money from the stupid taxpayers. Here we go. So how much progress has Chicago made? They expect the first groundbreaking for this new green social housing next year. I mean, we just passed this ordinance. So we have some work to do to implement and get this off the ground. But Aisha, it isn't just local politicians getting inspired by Vienna. I am Tina Smith and I am United States Senator from Minnesota.

Starting point is 01:52:35 Senator Smith went to Vienna a few years ago. She was on holiday, but she couldn't help herself from researching the housing. I'm constantly thinking about this because I'm always trying to figure out how cities are dealing with the housing crunch, which is such a huge issue in America. When Senator Smith got back to Washington, she got together with her colleague in Congress, New York Congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Last fall, they introduced something called the Homes Act. It would establish a new housing authority to make affordable housing and provide money for climate upgrades. The upfront money to be able to make the kind of energy improvements that are so important to lower

Starting point is 01:53:11 costs for people in the long term and also deal with climate pollution. The bill hasn't gone anywhere yet. Climate pollution. Climate pollution. Oh man. And they said the bill's going nowhere because it's going nowhere and there's no such thing as climate pollution. There is a new report.

Starting point is 01:53:32 Studies suggest climate disasters hit the brain before babies are even born. What we are seeing is compelling evidence that the climate crisis is not just an environmental emergency, it is potentially a neurological one. Yes, your baby is dying from climate, your unborn child is dying from climate change. Suggests a new report, peer reviewed by PLOS One. Suggests. Yes, yes, and then let me ask you Didn't weren't we way past the 1.5 degrees that everyone? Are you sure are you sure we're past that? I'm pretty sure we I mean I can recall that we'd all were already

Starting point is 01:54:20 colder than ever around here, but I mean We're already colder than ever around here. No, but I mean, the weather's not climate. We know that. Well, let's listen. The world is heating up and faster than predicted. That's the finding of a new study. Humans are releasing so much greenhouse gas that within three years planet Earth will likely be unable to avoid 1.5 degrees Celsius of long-term warming since pre-industrial times. The 1.5 degree

Starting point is 01:54:47 goal established by the 2015 Paris Agreement has been a cornerstone of international efforts to curb climate change. At 1.5 or 2 degrees, we now expect higher risks to ecosystems, to poor populations, for tipping points to happen. That's my favorite. For tipping points to happen. Isn't that the tipping point? That was the tipping point.

Starting point is 01:55:14 But now he said that's 1.5 or 2. Yeah, for tipping points to happen. For populations, for tipping points to happen and for extreme events to happen. So we expect them to happen at lower levels of warming compared to the evidence and the scientific knowledge we had at the time of the Paris Agreement. The Paris Agreement was wrong. We have new evidence. Researchers say humans can release only 130 billion more metric tons of CO2 before the 1.5 limit becomes inevitable. And we're on track to reach that limit by early 2028. Within three years, we will have emitted...

Starting point is 01:55:56 Coincidentally, isn't that an election year, 2028? Wouldn't that be... Yeah. I'm just saying. And we're on track to reach that limit by early 2028. Within three years, we will have emitted the remaining carbon budget for warming to 1.5 degrees with at least a 50% chance. So that means if we emit more, there is only lower chances than one in two that warming

Starting point is 01:56:24 will be kept to 1.5 degrees. Scientists say crossing that limit would mean worse heat waves, bigger storms, and small island nations engulfed by rising sea levels. You missed the last bit there. I'm sorry, play it again. It's a good little piece here. Lower chances than 1 in 2 that warming will be kept to 1.5 degrees. Scientists say crossing that limit would mean worse heat waves, bigger storms, and small

Starting point is 01:56:53 island nations engulfed by rising sea levels. We're being engulfed by rising sea levels! Oh man. And so much money in these climate solutions. So much money. And we are not getting any of it. Yeah. But what have we learned? We've learned in this show, so far we've learned about carbon budget,

Starting point is 01:57:18 our carbon budget. Yeah, and climate pollution. Climate pollution and the multipolar world. So look out for those terms everybody and avoid them like the plague. And with that I want to thank you for your courage. What happened? I'm out of control. You're out of control.

Starting point is 01:57:41 With that I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you the man who put the sea in the climate solutions correspondence. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeVorens! Yeah, well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning I should receive boots on the ground, feed the air subs in the water and all the games and nights out there Can't get the accurate troll count come on cotton gin what's going on It was probably somewhere around a little under 1800 I'm waiting for to see if it shows up Hmm. Hmm. No, I don't know. Got a lot of trolls, not as much as we should have, but a lot of trolls are tuning in and they're doing that at trollroom.io. By the way, on the quad screen right now, I forgot to mention, President Trump has said

Starting point is 01:58:38 two more weeks before I make a decision. Two more weeks. That takes that long for the last carrier group to get in place. Yeah, two more weeks. 1943. There we go. 1943. Oh, that's up a little bit. Well, you know why. Bombs. Bombs. Iran. Oh, see those guys are shitting for the Jews again. Where's our Jew money? We got like 100 bucks last time. Where's our Jew money? We got like a hundred bucks last time. What a jip.

Starting point is 01:59:07 How can we not have Tucker Qatar money? Come on people, step it up a little bit. This is getting annoying. We don't get climate money, none of that money. I just love people think that we shill for that. It's like, okay, well, it's not a profitable shilling business. We're in then So the trolls they're trollroom.io and and we got a lot of we've got more trolls and regularly listening in That's great. You can also get into that troll room. You can actually troll around do stuff

Starting point is 01:59:35 They've been pretty funny today a lot of like boomers. Oh, it's boom. It's boomer. You know what? Although I believe I'm boomer adjacent, in this case I will step over the line and say you should be happy you've got boomers who are here to tell you out of experience and long lifetime what is bull crap. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, seriously. I don't get it. Yeah, well that's just as what the kids do these days. You know how it is. What do we say about our parents? Old man, we didn't have a good term. We didn't say, Hey, hey, silent generation. What did we say? We had nothing to say.

Starting point is 02:00:13 We didn't have a cool term for them. For our parents? Yeah, well, my parents were born just before the Second World War. So what did it make them? Boomers? No, the boomers were born in 46 and up Okay, so what were my parents then they were silent either silent generation or the greatest generation one of the two Why see it doesn't work? Hey, hey, shut up you greatest generation people see it doesn't work boomers. It sounds better boomers boomers We got jipped on that too. And the way this program works is

Starting point is 02:00:49 we always ask for Muslim and Jew money never works. We try to get climate money never works. So instead we decide you know what, we don't run Big Pharma ads because they take up the whole show with all their disclaimers about how you're going to die from their products. So instead we said, if you get any value out of this program, this podcast that we do twice a week, we've been doing over 17 years, just send some value back to us from time to time. Whenever it hits you, you're like, oh, that was valuable to me.

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Starting point is 02:01:32 sending in a boots on the ground. We got lots of people doing technical work for us, like our websites, the Noagenda meetups websites, the Noagenda Art Generator is another example. And of course we have our prompt jockeys, formerly known as artists, who are working diligently, putting together artwork so that we can look cool, suave, funny, and relevant with a modern piece of art.

Starting point is 02:01:54 And we're very traditionalist in that case, in that regard, which is why on Father's Day, we try to go for a piece of Father's Day art. And we looked at the art generator, there were a lot of them, but the one we chose is from Blue Acorn, who has had several wins in the past few months. And it was a, I would call it graffiti.

Starting point is 02:02:12 John calls it graffiti. That is something we will never agree on that said, happy Father's Day, no agenda occurring to work. And we both liked it. We like kind of, we didn't even have an argument about it. Just like, yeah, that's the one. Right. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. What else was there? an argument about it. Just like, yeah, that's the one. Right? It's true.

Starting point is 02:02:25 Yeah. Yeah. What else was there? I like that style anyway, when somebody can pull it off. Well, you said we haven't had graffiti in a while. I'm like, no, we haven't had graffiti in a while. This is true. We haven't had graffiti in a while.

Starting point is 02:02:39 Graffiti. Probably five years maybe. No, it hasn't been that long. I don't believe that for a second. No. Yeah. I don't think so. Maybe ten.

Starting point is 02:02:50 No. Um, you see we had some Happy Father's Day socks. We had... I don't know. There wasn't really... It was actually kind of low on the Father's Day art, wouldn't you say? Wasn't a lot of it. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:03:04 You have nothing to say, do wasn't a lot of it. Yeah. You have nothing to say, do you? You're just done. No, I'm sorry. Are you writing a book? Are you doing something else? Yes, I am. I'm in the middle of writing a book on vinegar. That's so old, man. Yeah. Most of these appear to be prompted works and I kind of like Scaramanga's passed out dad two beers. Yeah, no you don't kind of like it. You liked it.

Starting point is 02:03:35 Yeah. The issue is again, Curry Devorak is very small and we are very important in the artwork. So that wasn't that that's a mistake Scaramanga makes more often he thinks his art is more important than the show yeah that's what he does that's that's him yes and and his art is looking more and more washed out this is the problem with that with AI that piece yes we both noticed this it is got a very limited dynamic range, which is the term I like to use. And it's noticeable. Where's the white? There's no whites.

Starting point is 02:04:10 There's no whites, there's no blacks. It's all mud. Then this is the same thing that's happening with the DH Unplugged show, which goes live Tuesdays and is available to you Wednesday, once a week. It's a great show about the financial markets. Then even Horowitz is like, this is no good. It's I can't get it to look good anymore.

Starting point is 02:04:31 So what's happening? I'm looking at all the yarns to see which ones have big dynamic range. And there's the ones that are probably done by Photoshop, which are no good. That's the problem. Yeah. There really is not a lot. There's a couple, there's a blue acorns got a couple of pieces that are fairly high in dynamic range.

Starting point is 02:04:50 Comet Strict Blogger did something on Photoshop or something that's very high. Blue Acorns though, I'm looking at his works and they all have, they have, they tend to have whites. Yeah. And all the cartoon stuff is looking like all the other cartoon stuff. Yes. This is really bothersome because there is looking like all the other cartoon stuff. Yes, this is really bothersome because there's so many different styles of cartooning. Why do they all have this same kind of pudgy look

Starting point is 02:05:16 of the pudgy kid in the show, what was it called? With the Texans talk to each other like this. Oh, a dad? King of the Hill. King of the Hill, yeah. What was Bobby? They all look like Bobby. Look at Scaramanga's Dr. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band.

Starting point is 02:05:36 It's the same washed out, everything's getting washed out, low dynamic range as you say. It's noticeable. It's noticeable and I think it's a problem. It's hurting the show people. It's hurting the show. Thank you very much Blue Acorn. We appreciate your contribution as always. All of the artists, real or prompting, it all ultimately comes down to what is the conceit? What is your idea? What is the joke? What is the gag? And and then the execution but we will even go for poor execution

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Starting point is 02:08:11 We'll get lost. Sir Danimals up next, he came in with 500 bucks and he sent in a note, which I have somewhere here. There it is. Nope, there it is. Very short note, he's way up there. He should be boosting his titles. He's in high range. ITM's the guardians of reality, he writes.

Starting point is 02:08:34 Happy Father's Day to you both and to all the dads out there. Karma, please stay safe, Sir Danimal, Baron of the Secret City. Alright, stay safe yourself. You've got karma. And then coming in with $333.33, another note. It appears these are no longer scans, these are pictures that Jay is taking. No, this is not, here's the issue. There was an issue.

Starting point is 02:09:02 Yeah, Jay is sick. Oh, who did the spreadsheet? Brandon came over. Oh, that's awesome. And he did the, uh, he did it. And so it's going to be different. And so, but I, wow, that's so cool that he did that.

Starting point is 02:09:15 He stepped in for his wife. That's nice. Yeah, no, he's a good guy. He is a good guy. And you know, we'll of course, we'll dock Jay's pay, give it to Brandon. Dear John and Adam. And you know, we'll of course, we'll dock Jay's pay, give it to Brenton. Dear John and Adam. There you go. This is the actual, the real Adam Curry, by the way, you just heard.

Starting point is 02:09:31 That's right. This is from Dame. I remember this is the item he used when he was at Medio. We go out, he's always be smoking. So he's outside smoking cause you can't smoke in buildings in San Francisco. So he's outside smoking. He's got his phone. He's smoking while looking at the phone and people would come in late because it was like 10 o'clock. They'd be coming in five minutes late. 10 o'clock. He'd always look up, oh so I'm glad you could make it. We start at 9 here. And he'd ridicule each person as they came in

Starting point is 02:10:03 late. You would stand there with me Dvorak. Because I was cracking up. It wasn't five minutes late. It would be like 10, 10.30. I'd be like, hey good morning. I was here at 9. Yeah, I'm an a-hole. Dear John Adam writes Dame Toni Hulse, ITM donation have been so bad lately I feel compelled to donate now instead of waiting until show 1776 for the big bicentennial event.

Starting point is 02:10:30 I recently moved to Oklahoma City and purchased a new built home. This is the second house I've purchased in five years. I noticed that homes are no longer made with landlines in them, making it mandatory for people to have cell phones if they want to call someone. I don't even know if it's possible to have one installed This makes your idea of putting your phone in a drawer impractical So your phone in a book box is not a good exit strategy. Sorry Adam. No, they got nicks Also something I've noticed about the protesters. Why are they carrying flags from their home countries if they are protesting being sent back there?

Starting point is 02:11:02 They're so proud of the nation. Why not stay there? It makes no sense to me. They burn the American flag but want to stay here. They are just protesting to cause commotion and nothing more. Senseless. But enough ranting, thank you for your courage, Dame Toni Helfs, sent from my iPhone. On a piece of paper. Nice. Okay.

Starting point is 02:11:20 Now thank you very much, Dame Toni. Couple of things. One, do you have an internet connection? Your internet provider, 90% of all internet providers can give you a landline phone as part of the service free. My landline is from sonic.net. It's fiber optics. It comes into the little box there, the fiber box.

Starting point is 02:11:41 It comes in the house. And off of that is the landline which feeds into the wire, well it is wired in the house for landline. It plugs into that and covers the whole house with landlines. So you can get it. You can get a landline. You can put this phone in a drawer if you have an internet provider. The only good phone is a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. Ah, the Tech Grouch.

Starting point is 02:12:12 Where is he? Where is he? So, Tomonymous Tomonymous in... What do you think? A mouse? A mouse? A mouse Pennsylvania? Emmus. I'm gonna say Emma's Emm a US somebody from Pennsylvania know how to pronounce it because I I would look I look at it says a mouse a mouse 315 Tom on amiss here giving a huge thanks to all the producers of no agenda and an even bigger thanks to Adam and John for creating V4V and continuing to dedicate their time to the greatest podcast in the universe. If anybody loves movie podcasts or just wondering if a film is worth a watch, check out the

Starting point is 02:12:58 Daily Ratings podcast or dailyratings.com. It's like a value for value Rotten Tomato tomatoes, which has been corrupted by the way. Yes. Or IMDB, but actually good. It's a love and light, homonymous. All right, then we have a note from Slovenia. This is nice. You have to comment on this when you don't Luca do sack $300 and let's see what Luca says. Hi John and Adam in our emails you mentioned Hmm. You have emails you visit lublyan lubyana I think I put a be on a lubyana the capital of horse meat wooden cars and your first lady Melania

Starting point is 02:13:44 Wow, what a trio. You also mentioned you regretted not buying some Tito memorabilia, so I went out and got some for you. Thank you and Adam for the best media deconstruction show on the planet. And I hope this letter finds you well. Luka Duzak from Slovenia. Well, that's very nice. Thank you, Slovenia. Yes, he sent some memorabilia in a box.

Starting point is 02:14:08 Tito memorabilia? Yeah, he got some Tito stamps for my stamp collection. Oh, a new stamp collection? And a Tito coin and a Tito… There's a replication… a replica, I think, I a hope I think, a Nazi poster, which was a wanted poster for Tito. They wanted to kill him. Wow.

Starting point is 02:14:32 And that's kind of cool. Is it an original poster? No, I think it's a replication. It's too good. I know as an archivist, I know old from new. And it doesn't have the earmarks of something that originated in it that's that's very cool but it's still cool looking that's very cool and there was another item or two that came oh yeah

Starting point is 02:14:55 cassette tape of of some Tito's speeches or songs about Tito or I haven't played it yet but yeah I want to thank him for going out of his way to give me some Tito memorabilia. Very nice. Onward. Lawrence Cornell in Battle Creek, Michigan. 24697. Jobs Karma for my son, Gavin the Giant Ginger. I have a visual. Please. Thanks to all who make the show possible. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Moving right along to Cole Kalistra in Punta Gorda, Florida 233, Associate Executive Producership for you, Cole. Thank you for your courage.

Starting point is 02:15:47 He writes, looking for some OG jobs karma since my employer, AWS, decided I need to relocate from Florida to New York in two months if I wanted to keep my job. Well, yeah, that's a step down. Sir Calistra, jobs karma for you. Not to mention the tax burden. Exactly. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And if I was in my quit.

Starting point is 02:16:17 Yeah, you in Florida, no state income taxes. No. Better life. Horrible. nicer weather except for the hurricane season which is coming up. Brian McCormick in Morgan's town. Motown. Well I was in Salem but we often traveled to Morgan town. Yeah that's where the whores were. Hey by the way bonus content, there's huge articles and videos in the Netherlands. You know, prostitution is legal if you're an escort or in a brothel in the Netherlands. Yeah. Are those little booths considered brothels?

Starting point is 02:16:55 No, that's, that's done. They got rid of the red light district. What? Yeah, they turned it into the fashion district. Now that's pretty much gone. What? Yeah, they ruined it. Yeah, the socialists, they ruined it. So they're doing- Which reminds you of a story. So they're doing interviews with escort ladies about the NATO summit and business is booming,

Starting point is 02:17:17 particularly the dinner dates and overnight stays. It's really funny because there you can just interview them like, oh yeah, no, we've got, we've got everyone's books. Do they name names? No, no, no, no, no, come on. They have professional courtesy. They're not going to do that. They're professionals. Yeah, well, tell that to Stormy Daniels. Brian McCormick, let's go back to him. He's in Morganstown, West Virginia, 222. This is donation and this is actually a switcheroo, so you might want to make a note. This is a donation at 222.

Starting point is 02:17:52 The associate executive producer credit goes to Kim, the only person that I've ever successfully hit in the mouth. Now do you think Kim is related to him or is it? Well, I was gonna say here, she is retiring from the most powerful job at a, in a school that of lead secretary, having done so with grace, honesty, and common sense. And in this case, uh, the row of ducks has a meaning. Okay. Jingle requests request I love my truck respect Reverend L on

Starting point is 02:18:27 the more the more you know and the more you know what is it just it just says Kim I don't know if he's related or not but he just be Kim all right We're waiting. Look, look at where there it is. Sorry, I lost it in the pile of crap. I got to clean this desk off. I love my job and I love what I do. The more you know in the morning. Eli the Coffee Guy checks in from Bensonville, Illinois.

Starting point is 02:19:08 We love Eli the coffee guy and his outstanding product 20619. Happy Juneteenth. It's funny. I spent my whole life not knowing about this amazing holiday and I'm black. But you're not in Texas and you're not done. Thank you. Yet another great excuse for a payday to offer all the government workers out there. Thank you Adam and John for your dedication of working through the holidays from Easter

Starting point is 02:19:34 to Thanksgiving and now Juneteenth. It's not President's Day and we ain't selling mattresses so no Juneteenth sale here at Gigawatt Coffee Roasters. However, we do offer 20% to fellow producers on their first order by using code ITM20. So grab a bag today. Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated says Eli the coffee guy. That brings us to Linda Lepatkin. And by the way, I am out of coffee. Or I'm on my last bag is in the grinder.

Starting point is 02:20:05 Oh no, oh no. Your bag was... How about you? We're still good. But he usually... I think we're back on the schedule with Eli. Tina really appreciates the decaf. You only send one bag, that's okay.

Starting point is 02:20:19 She doesn't drink all that much coffee anymore, but she does appreciate it. So, and I like anything that's a dark roast and, and, and, and gets me hopped up. Yeah. If you listen to the pre-show, we can all tell. Linda Lupatkin, she's in Lakewood, Colorado, and she wants jobs K. Special K's. And these are, do you need a resume that tells your story,

Starting point is 02:20:43 highlights your wins and shows why you're unique? Well, visit ImageMakersInc.com for a resume that gets results. That's ImageMakersInc. with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of Winning Resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yeah!

Starting point is 02:21:04 You thought karma. Well, she's rewritten her copy, but I don't like, I don't think it's that bad. You know, I kind of like the... For a resume that tells your story, highlights your wins and shows why you're unique. I think some of the girls at the escort business use that too. Let me show you my wins and show me why I'm unique. Sailor. Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers. We are very

Starting point is 02:21:34 grateful for the value you send back and obviously it's because you get value out of the show. That's how simple it is. That's how it works. Anyone can go to noagendadonations.com. Set up a donation, a recurring one if you want, any amount, any frequency or one timer. There's many different ways to support the show. All of it matters. Every single bit and we appreciate everybody and we'll thank the rest of our producers $50 and above in the second segment. And again, thank you to these executive and associate executive producers.

Starting point is 02:22:03 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Well, I want to play some TikTok clips. Okay, you got to come close to the microphone though. I'm on top of it. Did it change again? Did the volume change? I haven't changed anything.

Starting point is 02:22:35 No, it's you just you just you just move away and then like, no, I wasn't on top of it. I couldn't be if I was any closer, I'd be behind it. Talk, talk, talk. I'm on top of it. I couldn't be if I was any closer, I'd be behind it. All right, tick tock clips, everybody. The moment everybody's been waiting for. Who cares about nuclear war? Tick tock clips on deck. Well, then, which you want to give you concerned about that. They can do a hybrid clip. This is tick tock on nuclear war.

Starting point is 02:23:00 Economists agree that to enter World War three on the same scale as World Wars one and II would end our world. If there was a nuclear war, yes, billionaires would be able to survive the two weeks to a month. They'd have to wait for the nuclear fallout to settle. But the problem is that there would then be a food shortage, which would kill about five billion people.

Starting point is 02:23:18 Not to mention society as we know it would be completely destroyed. There would be no agriculture, no infrastructure, most likely no technology. We'd have to rebuild everything. What is the point of being a billionaire and surviving through a fallout like that if there is no society? If there is no working class to exploit, to extract wealth from? Billionaires don't just want to survive. They want to live in luxury, which is why they need the working class. Do they give a single fuck about our survival? No. That's why proxy wars will continue in the Middle East and Africa because they view those humans as disposable to further their economic interests. But they need our labor to maintain their

Starting point is 02:23:51 lifestyle. So therefore our interests are aligned with theirs and a nuclear war would mean the end of life as they know it. That's why I find this whole situation to be highly unlikely but let me know what you all think in the comments. The more you know, in the morning. Thanks. I'm educated now. But let me know what you all think in the comments. The more you know, in the morning. Thanks. I'm educated now. No, you're not because one thing she said that the billionaires are going to go underground and crop up after a few weeks.

Starting point is 02:24:13 Yeah. Well, they have food. With the thermonuclear bomb, not a hydrogen bomb, but the big bombs, the fission fusion fission bombs are the ones that are packed in radioactive material on the outside so you have three bombs going off. The radiation lasts for years. What happened to the neutron bomb? That was going to be cool because the buildings would be there but we'd all die.

Starting point is 02:24:36 I loved the neutron bomb. When I was a kid, oh the neutron bomb, oh no they've developed something that will kill the people but leave the buildings. I was always curious to me. There was a backlash against the neutron bomb. I'll say. Anyway, so now she doesn't know what she's talking about. Because you can't rub-a-lize if you only kill the people.

Starting point is 02:24:59 Yeah, and rub-a-lization is the key. People don't realize that. This is one of the few shows that understands rubalization. We have a rubalize. Yeah, you caught me off guard. You got me off guard. Your supposed racist words. Unfortunately, this is the whole clip. I only meant to clip the first three words,

Starting point is 02:25:18 so after the third word, you can kill it. Here are six words that you use every day that have racist origins. Although these words might seem harmless, they are rooted in a long history of oppression and racism in the US. Wait a minute, does picnic come up again? Is that in this series? No, no, no. Number one.

Starting point is 02:25:32 No, she's got new words. New words. Picky. This refers to enslaved people. Is this the same chick as the nuclear war chick? No, this is a different one. All these chicks are starting to sound the same. They're in the same TikTok meal you. They're blending together. This refers to enslaved people were forced to pick nits or lice out of other people's

Starting point is 02:25:50 hair. It was a very dehumanizing task. Number two, this is actually related to the word gypsy, which is a slur for Romani people. Number three, no can do. This was originally a sentence or term used to mock Asian Americans primarily Chinese immigrants to their accent number three uppity This was a term Typically seen as too confident and it was definitely an insult that preceded violence against black people number four the peanut gallery This term refers to in segregated theaters when black people had to sit in the worst

Starting point is 02:26:22 Cheapest seats in the house and finally we have the term grandfathered in which is in reference to when black people were forced to take literacy tests in order to vote, aka a form of voter suppression. White people who had been grandfathered in the right to vote did not have to take these tests. So if you're a white person, please stop using these things. Peace and love. Peace and love. Well, I didn't the peanut gallery sounds Howdy doody. So how, uh, the whole thing, this is all nonsense, but, but the one thing that keeps cropping up and I've heard it before and I had a,

Starting point is 02:26:54 well, I had a, JIP is something we say all the time. JIP is the one I'm going to bring. This is the way I focused in on that. What people don't realize it, it seems as if they if they credit JIP as being derived from Gypsy. But it's the other way around. Yeah, we were saying JIP and they went, hey, that's who we are. We'll be Gypsies. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:27:16 In fact, let me read from this etymology page. Oh, from Chad GPT. All right. Uh, JIP is attested from 1794 as universal slang for a servant that waited on students in their halls. This is said to have been especially true in Cambridge. And a story told there derived from the Greek gyps, G-Y-P-S, gyps, for vulture in reference to the thievish habits of the servants. Hmm. vulture in reference to thievish habits of the servants.

Starting point is 02:27:50 So gypsy derives from jip, not the other way around. Wow. So she was actually racist. So you can say jip and I would just suggest to people, I'm going to cut this out. I'm going to print it out, cut it out and keep it in my wallet. When somebody calls me out for using the word j JIP as a slur against gypsies. No, it's not the case. Gypsy was derived from gyps, not the other way around. Wow.

Starting point is 02:28:13 The more you know. The more you know. That is so amazing. I get so irked at these women with they, they all, there's, oh, I know so much. Well, she was actually racist by using the term gypsy. Gypsy is actually the slur It is yes. It is Wow. So well according to some people John this your clips are so educational today

Starting point is 02:28:33 It's just amazing. All right, I'll give you one more one more. Okay. Well, let me think you which one can I I Got so many here. I know that's why I'm letting you choose one more. Yeah, thanks for nothing. I want to play the clip. Sorry. I can't quite get it. One of the things that we've noticed and it started with the who's going to wipe our asses comment by one of the Democrats in one of the comment by one of the, one of the Democrats, uh, in one of the houses in one of the states. And,

Starting point is 02:29:09 and the comment that was on the view some years ago, who's going to clean the toilets? Yes. Yes. The idea that all the immigrants that have come over are here to be our personal slaves and clean the toilets and pick the fruit that no one else will pick and work on a construction site that no one else will pick and work on a construction site that no one else will work on. Which is all bogus. You can hire people to do these things, but you have to pay them a living wage or at least a wage. And so we'd rather have these, this constant theme that these

Starting point is 02:29:40 are slaves that we want to keep here because they work cheap or they do stuff that nobody else will do when people will do these things. It just runs through the Democrat party. It's just like, it's just beyond me. But here's a woman, obviously from, I wouldn't say Beverly Hills, but she's obviously a kind of upper middle class creep lamenting about the workers.

Starting point is 02:30:09 So I'm in my beautiful city, LA, and I have friends texting me like, oh, morning. My gardener didn't show up. My housekeeper didn't show up. Oh, my farmer's market was closed. Everyone's scared. Well, this is not going to just happen in LA. And you one percenters that only voted for Trump because of money? Money? Guess what? You're going to have to do your own dishes,

Starting point is 02:30:35 or clean your own house, or mow your own lawn. And oh, that wonderful produce, the organic produce you get for your brunches? Uh-uh, all gone. Yeah. You're going to actually have to do some work around your house. These people are important. What, what is the one percenters? Is that the one percenters of Democrats who voted for Trump?

Starting point is 02:30:58 Is that some kind of new slur? I have no idea what she's talking about. Sounds like a new slur that, you know, he won by 1% and it was you people. That's what I'm thinking that means. That could be, but this idea that people can't do the dishes. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know. It's like, what?

Starting point is 02:31:15 I do the dishes? President Trump turned coat that he is. This morning, confusion after immigration and customs enforcement agents were told to resume raids on hotels, restaurants and farms, days after President Trump suspended those raids. Trump saying this last week. We can't do that to our farmers and leisure to hotels. The president acknowledging the agriculture and hospitality industry's reliance on undocumented

Starting point is 02:31:41 workers. But now the administration reversing its position once again, telling ICE agents to continue carrying out arrests at farms, hotels, and restaurants. A Homeland Security spokesperson saying, these operations target illegal employment networks that undermine American workers. Trump yesterday was asked about the reversal. We're going to look everywhere, but I think the biggest problem is the inner cities. We're looking everywhere.

Starting point is 02:32:08 I love how he's saying, you know, it's farmers and then, oh no, it's the inner cities. It's a very confusing report. And of course, they'll also mix up the term immigrants with illegal immigrants. What is the inner cities? We're looking everywhere. Some fellow Republicans now pushing for the return of these worker exemptions. If you take all of them away, those companies tell me that they're not going to be able to, you know, produce. Now, worker exemptions, this is getting a little confusing.

Starting point is 02:32:34 We do have very specific immigration visas for temporary workers. So I'm not sure if they mean the exemptions that already exist and people can can use or the exemptions in the ICE raids. Where we got that clip is a very good that was a bad source. It's ABC. They chopped up what Trump had to say in an awkward way. Where did this come from? It's bad. This is from ABC ABC. Oh, it's bad. Oh dramatic confrontation in New York ICE agents arresting a city official and mayoral candidate who was linking arms with an immigrant agents were trying to arrest He was pushed against What did he say? So this was interesting. Let me hear that again. The official and mayoral candidate who was linking arms with an immigrant agents were

Starting point is 02:33:25 trying to Immigrant. Illegal immigrant. And he was linking arms as a mayoral candidate. This is the new thing. Show your bold against Trump. Go in and make a ruckus during a press conference. Oh, I'm a senator.

Starting point is 02:33:33 I'm a mayoral candidate. I'm linking arms with a Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant.

Starting point is 02:33:41 Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. This is the new thing. Show your bold against Trump. Go in and make a ruckus during a press conference. Oh, I'm a senator. Oh, I'm a mayoral candidate. I'm linking arms with an illegal immigrant. ...arresting a city official and mayoral candidate who was linking arms with an immigrant agents

Starting point is 02:33:56 were trying to arrest. Where is it? Where is the wall? I had it in my hand here. He was pushed against the wall and arrested, but was released without charges. I said you assaulted an officer. I mean, you guys all saw it on video, so you know exactly what happened. I certainly did not assault an officer.

Starting point is 02:34:13 Lionel Woyze, ABC News, New York. ABC. He said ABC News. But they said NBC. He said ABC News. OK. I just need to remind everybody that it's actually doable to come into the United States legally.

Starting point is 02:34:28 There's many different visa programs. I have helped people come in. I have also helped some people years and years ago who were like, hey, I'm here illegally, can you help me? Yeah, I can help you out. There are lawyers who do this. They're actually cheaper than the coyotes, but the whole, certainly during President Biden's administration and before,

Starting point is 02:34:51 the whole idea of just saying, oh, you know, don't worry about it. You come in, you overstay your visa, which is the biggest problem. People overstaying an existing tourist visa. But then it's just like, I just come across the border. It's no problem. They might arrest you, but then I'm just like I just come across the border it's no problem you they might arrest you but then you get released that is what created the problem and I got some emails from some of our producers you know what we need a comprehensive immigration reform they Arnold Schwarzenegger was on the view and everyone clipped a little bit of him

Starting point is 02:35:18 saying you need to give back to America but then we went right back into comprehensive immigration reform no, we have fine, I know the laws. The only one I never liked is they force anyone who wants to come into the United States as a permanent resident to get all your vaccines and for the longest time that included the COVID vaccine unless you could prove that you've had your vaccines. I've never liked that provision. Asylum is also possible if you come from a country designated as qualified for asylum and you go through a port of entry and you can actually get it done. So, yeah, there's people listening to the show like, well, I don't like it.

Starting point is 02:35:58 I don't like deporting immigrants and not immigrants. They're illegal immigrants and you can do it legally. Unfortunately, our own government and our own government money through the UN immigration program which is billions of dollars who are telling people how to do it, unfortunately, that gave everybody the wrong idea and a misconception. You can come into America legally. It is very possible. It takes a little bit longer than your trip if you just want to walk across the border,

Starting point is 02:36:35 but it's possible. And we're pretty fun loving people. We want you. We want you to come in. We want you to be here. That's the fallacy and people have, they need to be reminded once in a while anyway Here's an interesting story from the Bay Area that I caught and I wondered if you had heard any more about it

Starting point is 02:36:55 According to court documents 45 year old Austin Hills the great-grandson of the founders of the famous Hills Brothers coffee company of the founders of the famous Hills Brothers Coffee Company was driving his Land Rover at about 315 Thursday morning and began tailgating a Tesla security guard who is out on his lunch break. In court documents investigators say Hills turned off his headlights and attempted to rear end the security guards Tesla. Investigators say Hills also followed the security guard into the Tesla parking lot attempting to ram his car. Investigators say the security guard into the Tesla parking lot, attempting to ram his car. Investigators say the security guard managed to evade him and that's when Hills abruptly left the parking lot and began ramming another occupied car parked on Page Avenue. We've learned the woman

Starting point is 02:37:36 in that car was also a Tesla employee on her lunch break. When police arrived, they say Hills took off onto 680, again shut off his lights and began driving erratically, leading officers to end the chase. Hill was ultimately arrested later that morning in Napa. Police say they found a variety of items in his car, including multiple cell phones, laptops, a metal pressure cooker, a gas mask, a drone, extended shell casings, gas cans, and alcohol. Once again, Hill's family has a long legacy in the Bay Area. His great-grandfather co-founded the famous Hill's Brothers Coffee Company that opened

Starting point is 02:38:13 in San Francisco in 1898. Investigators are still trying to determine a motive for the strange and scary attack, but court documents show Hill's told police the security guard was the one driving erratically and that he had no memory of going to Fremont, ramming any cars or being pursued by police, blaming stress for his lack of memory. Tesla derangement syndrome as far as I'm concerned. What's this with the pressure cookers back again? That's a little concerning. This whole story is something's wrong with the pressure cookers back again? That's a little concerning.

Starting point is 02:38:45 This whole story is something's wrong with this story. Yeah, yeah, some rich heir. I don't know if he's rich, but I don't know. Well, Austin Hills, 45. He drove a long way. Well, Austin Hills, there's a kid. I thought Austin Hills was older because he was a co-owner of the Gurgich Hills winery, which I'm not going to have to look up.

Starting point is 02:39:16 So he was a wine connoisseur and that's why I went back to Napa, but which, you know, it makes sense. Cause that's where the wine. Oh, that's why he had alcohol in the car. He had a couple of cases of their finest Could be after he uses extended magazines, okay This whole story is something's amiss. Yes. I have a boots on the ground from the constitutional lawyer I'll play the clip first and I will read what his opinion is on the latest Supreme Court ruling. evolving science and profound implications. Rejecting the argument that denying trans kids access to puberty blockers and

Starting point is 02:40:07 hormone therapy amounts to sex discrimination. Roberts writing the issue should be left to the people, their elected representatives, and the democratic process. Justice Sonia Sotomayor joined by Liberal Justices Kagan and Jackson dissented in sadness. Writing the court's decision inflicts... Ha ha ha! I love... Dissented in sadness. the court's decision inflicts dissented in sadness oh no they want so those three want yeah yeah they want it they want the boys a

Starting point is 02:40:34 chapter nuts off joined by liberal justices Kagan and Jackson dissented in sadness writing the court's decision inflicts untold harm to transgender children and the parents and families who love them. What they are saying is that trans people do not fall within the sex discrimination classification, that you can legally discriminate against trans people. The sponsor of the Tennessee ban praising the court's decision. The court affirmed what we believe and that is that states do have a compelling interest to protect kids. I won't say I'm optimistic. LW, a trans teen who brought the case and asked us not to show her face,

Starting point is 02:41:10 told us last year she'll keep pursuing the treatments in another state because they changed her life. I think really the big difference was when I got on hormones. That was incredibly helpful. David, an estimated 100,000 transgender teens and their families live in states where those treatments are banned, but today's ruling has no impact in other states where gender-affirming care for minors remains legal. So, thank you.

Starting point is 02:41:37 You want to jump out at me in that report? No. What? A hundred thousand? That's what they said. I thought it was like some minor, don't worry about it. There's one kid, you know, here and there. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:41:51 So in this few states that have this, few states that have the ban on hormone blockers for kids, there's a hundred thousand. I guess. So here's what Rob the constitutional lawyer writes. And he says, first of all, we need to understand that this was a ban on sex changes for minors under the regimen based on a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder, and gender incongruence. Those by the way are mental diagnoses. The

Starting point is 02:42:28 main question was whether the Tennessee law violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause. Supreme Court says no because it applies equally to boys and girls no matter what they think they are. The plaintiffs disagreed and said it treats normies better than kids who identify as something other than their birth sex. He says you'll be interested to see how the court addresses this. This will echo throughout other cases because equal protection arguments are made all the time. Equal protection was an important element in Obergefell vs Hodges, the

Starting point is 02:43:11 case that held five to four that gay marriage is a constitutional right. It was often said that gay marriage bans did not violate the equal protection clause because it applied equally to men and women, but that case shot that argument down. Note that the holding applies only to a specific set of diagnosis. Watch for sex change doctors to run an end around by inventing new diagnoses. So gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder, and gender incongruence, those are the ones that hold up.

Starting point is 02:43:45 So we need to come up with a new term, which I don't have yet, but we need to come up with a new term. It'll come up, and as soon as you or I see it, yeah, we'll go, ah, ah, there it is, there it is. There it is. We're in this moment in this country, this is the ACLUs behind this. Well this country. This is the ACLU's behind this.

Starting point is 02:44:05 Well, of course. Of course they are. We're in a moment, according to this ACLU guy, reading from the story on CNN, a very long story on this topic. We're in a moment in this country where the transgender people in this country are under attack. No, no.

Starting point is 02:44:23 In lawless ways, chase astringio an attorney with the aclu who represents transgender teens at the high court we are remaining vigilant and ready to fight back yes so there's not and you're right it's not ending ac You're right. It's not ending. ACLU. And then of course, this is the really big news, the big, big news. And I love how CNN frames all of this. This is Trump Mobile. And our money laid from sneakers to watches, even Bibles, the Trump organization has been cashing in on President Trump's popularity.

Starting point is 02:45:06 Today, the Trump Organization says it's now getting into telecommunications and offering Trump Mobile, a new wireless service. The plan, it starts at 47.45 a month, a nod of course to Trump's two terms as the 45th and 47th president. Sinan Tadasgold has more on the latest business venture by the Trump family.

Starting point is 02:45:33 My new Trump watches. Trump fans can already wear a Trump branded watch and sneakers. Soon they'll also be able to have a Trump phone in their pocket. Eric and Donald Trump Jr. announcing Trump Mobile, cell phone plans that will use other wireless carriers networks and eventually sell their own gold colored phones. Plans are set a symbolic monthly price of 47.45, a nod to Trump's presidencies. But they'll also bundle in telemedicine and roadside assistance. A big part of what we've done right now in the world

Starting point is 02:45:55 has been focused on technology for people who have been underserved, whether that's been in crypto or anything else. But one of the places where we felt- I love Eric Trump. You've been underserved on crypto Okay Now in the world it's been focused on technology for people who've been underserved

Starting point is 02:46:11 whether that's been in crypto or anything else but one of the places where we felt there was lackluster performance was in the mobile industry The Trump sons claim their mobile phone will be entirely made in America taking on device giants like Apple and Samsung, which President Trump has threatened with high tariffs if they don't start building their phones in America. If they're going to sell it in America, I want it to be built in the United States. Yeah, well, you said it and there's some tricky language around where it's made. Trump Mobile is just the latest money-making venture for President Trump's family,

Starting point is 02:46:42 as they capitalize on his presidency in unprecedented ways. Oh, I don't know about unprecedented. Hello, Biden. Many of those businesses have benefited the president himself, who made more than $600 million last year, according to financial disclosure forms and Reuters. Much of that is from recent ventures like Trump Media and his Trump Crypto Coin.

Starting point is 02:47:01 Hold on a second. Trump Media? That's not making any money. Are they counting the value of the stock that he owns? That's what it sounds like. That's not the same as income. That's a money losing company. Yes it is.

Starting point is 02:47:15 That company is not making any money. No. Recent ventures like Trump Media and his Trump Cryptocoin. He's also made money last year from Trump watches, Trump sneakers, Trump fragrances, Trump guitars, and even Trump Bibles. Trump guitars? Yeah, yeah, there were Fender guitars. I missed the Trump guitar.

Starting point is 02:47:30 He didn't make anything off the Bible. That was Lee Greenwood. He made zero money on the Bible, I'll say, but it was a Trump meme coin, not a crypto coin. Ah, is this report. Though Trump has ceded control of the Trump Organization to his children, experts have called out the many conflicts of interest as the federal government regulates many of the industries he's making money from, including wireless phones.

Starting point is 02:47:53 I have to say- He hasn't made a nickel from wireless phones. So I got a note from- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me finish, 23 seconds left. And Phil, I've been speaking to people who actually make cell phones. They say the claim that this phone will be made in America is pretty dubious. That's because there are certain chips and even a GPS crystal that you can

Starting point is 02:48:09 literally only find in Asia. And Eric Trump seemed to allude to this in an interview. He did say later, eventually all the Trump phones will be built in the United States. So we'll see how much of this phone is actually made in America when it comes out later this year. I have a story about this, but you go first. I was going to say I had a note from a publishing mogul that we talk about occasionally. He said, you want to review this phone, this idiotic phone?

Starting point is 02:48:35 He's not a big Trump fan. And I said, hell yeah, I'll review the phone. My first complaint would be why is it 47, 45 when it should be 45, 47? They're trying to gouge the customer for two bucks. I'd review the phone. That's not the phone, that's the service. Yeah, well the service, yes, but it's called the T Trump service, Trump mobile. Trump mobile, yeah.

Starting point is 02:48:58 Yeah, but that's part of it. And the phone, I don't think that I say I agree to do a review because I hate phones anyway, so I'm going to be objective. Not. And... Wait a minute. Is this going to be a published article? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. You're back, baby. You're back. I'm telling you, the phone will never show up. It's never going to happen. It's like the vinegar bug. You're back, baby. You're back reviewing phones. Welcome back, man. Welcome back to tech journalism.

Starting point is 02:49:26 Awesome. You can go back on Twitter now. Review the Trump phone. Yeah, this phone will never see the light of day. You don't think so? No. We have a friend who shall go

Starting point is 02:49:39 nameless and she buys all this stuff. Her kids have Trump outfits. She's a collector. She's a wearing collector. Her kids got little Trump outfits. She's got Trump, her husband has Trump ties, Trump boots. His tie is signed.

Starting point is 02:49:59 They go to Mar-a-Lago and get the stuff signed. There's a shop at Mar-a-Lago. You can get a glittery clutch with Trump on it. They love all this stuff. They are on fire for Trump. They love everything. This is a real thing. People love Trump memorabilia and stuff.

Starting point is 02:50:17 They really- I think it's all collect, I think a lot of it, not all of it, but a lot of it's very collectible. Highly collectible. Yeah, and it's gonna be valuable at some point in the long future from now. Yeah. I'd say I'd give it a hundred years. Yeah, crap's gonna wind up in a garage somewhere in a garage and say,

Starting point is 02:50:34 oh look at this, just like a poster, a Nazi poster of Tito. Nazi poster of Tito. And then I got one more, we should do five more minute five minute warning here This showed up on MSNBC. It has there is... Ship 36 just blew up. Ship 36 just blew up. That was the moment a SpaceX Starship undergoing testing suffered a catastrophic failure overnight. The explosion sending a fireball into the night sky that could be seen dozens of miles away.

Starting point is 02:51:33 Thankfully, no one was injured. Now, SpaceX is investigating what went wrong with the Starship. A rocket Elon Musk says one day will carry humans to Mars. Impress me and go to the moon. NBC News senior correspondent Tom Costello covers aviation. He's joining us now. Aviation? That video is incredible. How did this happen Tom and what does it mean for future missions? What does it mean? Well that's gonna be the focus of this investigation that SpaceX will lead. The FAA of course will be a

Starting point is 02:52:00 party to it but this has not been a good year for Elon Musk or SpaceX. This latest explosion yet another setback for Musk's lifelong quest to eventually send humans to Mars but more immediately NASA needs Starship the rocket that blew up it needs Starship to get to the moon. Funny how we can't seem to do it anymore. I don't get it. We've lost the plans. We lost the plans. We lost the CIA, all the smart people.

Starting point is 02:52:30 We lost the smart people at the CIA. All right, five minutes. You got your last clip. Let's go. Well, we got a couple of... This is a series about the Minnesota shooter. We want to get that out of the way. Yeah, before the story's gone.

Starting point is 02:52:43 Okay. Minnesota Hitman. It's NPR, everybody. Elita's Voices. I hope it's Scott. Investigators are still determining the motive behind the killing of a Minnesota state representative and her husband over the weekend. They say that Vance Belter had a much larger list of people he was apparently planning to target, including other Democratic elected officials and abortion rights supporters. One area of his background is yielding some insight into the views he held about abortion, and that is his religious connections. NPR's domestic extremism correspondent, Odette Youssef, is here to discuss. Hi, Odette.

Starting point is 02:53:22 Hey, Mary Louise. Okay, so what do we know about his religious connections, his religious background? We know that he graduated from a school in Texas called the Christ for the Nations Institute, which has put out a statement condemning the violence and saying it's not what the school teaches. But the CFNI is considered to be a precursor to a movement that is now referred to as the New Apostolic Reformation. And we know that when Belter was in Africa two years ago, he spoke during sermons about his belief in modern-day prophets and apostles in the U.S., and experts say this is distinct

Starting point is 02:53:59 to NAR theology. And so, you know, now the NAR up until recently has been considered a fringe strand of the evangelical right. It's a neo-charismatic expression of Christianity. But, you know, a really important aspect of the NAR movement, Mary Louise, is its political aspirations. There's an idea they espouse called Dominionism. Oh wow. You haven't heard that one, have you? Wow. He's a Dominionist. There we go.

Starting point is 02:54:32 Yes, neo-charismatic, another good one. I like it. Yeah, they got terms in here that I've never heard, but they bring it into Dominionism. This was during the George Bush administration, this is when this first cropped up. This was the idea, there's an offshoot of Christians that are trying to protect Israel because, you know, there's got to be a second coming at some spot around there and they don't want to... Don't want to miss it.

Starting point is 02:54:55 They don't want to pockmark the land so nothing bad happens when the return. And so they're nuts, the Dominionists. No offense to... We must have a few that listen to the show. I'm sorry to say that. But I've always... Always thinking of donations. Very good, John. Very good. I will say this. I haven't noticed any dominionist donations, maybe that would keep me from playing these sorts of clips. But onward was to get a clip to get it out of the way. And that is a belief that they are called to take control over every aspect of society

Starting point is 02:55:32 to impose Old Testament biblical governance. And so this has been a powerful anti-democratic movement that has aligned itself with the MAGA movement and has also fed concerns about rhetoric that could inspire extremist violence. Well, they got to it finally. Okay, a lot to take in there. You're talking about this has fed concerns about rhetoric could inspire extremist violence. Is there evidence that would actually give cause for concern that this faith community

Starting point is 02:56:02 might turn to violence? Oh, yeah. Well, some leading figures within the NAR were critical in mobilizing and fomenting anger within Trump's base in the period leading to the January 6th attack on the Capitol. But in the context of these attacks in Minnesota, you have to look at the language and framing around the topic of abortion. Fred Clarkson from Political Research Associates says there's reason to be concerned that the NAR is priming the pump for this kind of abortion. Fred Clarkson from Political Research Associates says there's reason to be concerned that the NAR is priming the pump for this kind of violence. There's been a decided uptick in the rhetoric and vision of violence in the

Starting point is 02:56:34 United States from apostolic leaders for some time. No, this is bullcrap. Apostolic leaders. So they switched real quick from immigration, which is what the big deal was, they switched it over to abortion. Nice switcheroo. They had to do the switcheroo, but they still can't account for the fact that I'm still convinced the guy was a professional hitman. He floats around here and there, went to Africa, and his wife was caught with passports for all the kids, $10,000 in cash, which I think was the prepayment

Starting point is 02:57:06 for the destination of somebody. For the job, for the job. The prepayment, because 10 grand is not enough. No. And they were all gonna flee the country after he did whatever, whoever he was supposed to kill and get away with, and he had the expensive mask, he was not a cheapie.

Starting point is 02:57:23 And you know, the whole thing, this is all bull crap, but it's a good shot, it was not a cheapie. And you know, the whole thing, this is all bull crap. But it's a good shot, it does take a shot at these Christian nutcases because they're all Trump supporters. Yes, and they're uptick in violence in the sermons. And there's an uptick in violence by the apostolic community. Leaders, leaders, leaders. Leaders, the leaders. The apostolic leaders, yes.

Starting point is 02:57:43 The neo-charismatics. And you wonder why they're having their funding taken away. Leaders. Leaders. Leaders. Leaders. Epistolic leaders. Yes. The neo-charismatics. And you wonder why they're having their funding taken away. And within that rhetoric, Mary Lee, you'll hear abortion discussed as ritual child sacrifice and as something that empowers demons. Can we connect this, though? Can we connect extreme rhetoric with the violence? To Trump. Can we connect it to Trump the violence we just saw in Minnesota? So we know that Belter railed against abortion in America during at least one sermon abroad,

Starting point is 02:58:19 so it was an issue he cared about. And there was an interesting detail in the federal complaint filed against Belter yesterday, which said that he sent a group text to his wife and other family members a few hours after the rampage occurred, and it said, Dad went to war last night. This language of war is the language that the NAR uses when talking about taking dominion over society. Clarkson says it's clear who the enemies are in that war. William Clarkson, PhD, MPH, PhD, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH, MPH,? So in a sentence, Odette, is the case here that the rhetoric met the reality? I think it's hard to say at this point, Mary Louise, but we will be learning more as the investigation continues. Wow.

Starting point is 02:59:15 They're really conflating a lot of things. Spiritual warfare is very different. As long as Trump is somehow involved, it's his fault. Time to thank some Dominionists for their support of the show, Value for Value. Yes, you were going to say... I was gonna say that we have some donations and we have some people to thank. We don't have as many as I'd like. No.

Starting point is 02:59:49 But we do have a couple of regulars that keep coming back for more, which is Dame Rita. She's at the top again. Yes. For some reason, there's Dame Dita here. Well, no, that's, Carl, what's his name? Ever since Stripe came along, she's been donating regularly.

Starting point is 03:00:05 Good. Which is interesting. She's in Sparks, Nevada, nice little town outside of Reno in 13333. And I will read her note because she, just to encourage her. Because you like her, you like her. Yes, encourage her. She's great. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.

Starting point is 03:00:23 I can count on you for the best media analysis. He's not dumb. Uh, sir. Cunkleberry comes in from Atlanta, Georgia, one 30 oath. Oh, by the way, Dame Rita is one 33 33. This a Cunkleberry is one 30. Oh three. Uh, he's sir. Cunkleberry of the dirty South. Trent, uh, Lomeli Lomel Trent Lomelino in Cedartown, Georgia. Another Georgian, 125. He needs a deducing.

Starting point is 03:00:57 You've been deduced. Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, sir Nathan, that's one of your Mercy Me boys right there. Donating that gig money. He's a Mercy Me contributor. Donating the gig money. Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix, Arizona, 10535. V for V is awesome.

Starting point is 03:01:22 Stellar content he says. Zuh brother, Zuh Simon, I'm guessing Simon Lubazewski. Sounds about right. That's close. I don't know where he's from, it doesn't say. 100 bucks, I want to thank him. S-Z-Y-M-O-N. Simon. Michelle Galinas in Phoenix, another Phoenician.

Starting point is 03:01:44 100 dollars. Oh, she has an attached note You want to take a look at see if there's anything else. Well, she becomes a dame Okay, you have to read it. No. Yes, please. Dame Dame shell lost in Arizona. Hi John and Adam Checks are better in a card. It's easy Thank you for always being the voices of reason underlined. My husband passed away from cancer on 4-28-25. That's recent. F cancer jingle, please. And hit me with some karma to help me going forward.

Starting point is 03:02:14 Of course. Michelle Galinas, that's how you pronounce it, Galinas. Thank you for your courage. Sorry Michelle, but we are happy to dame you momentarily and I will hit you with that F cancer now. Stop the cancer! Stop the cancer! Stop the cancer!

Starting point is 03:02:30 You've got karma. Going to Amsterdam to Joe Dirks. I came in with 96.26, which is the Wobbo donation. What is the Wobbo donation. What is the Wobo? We should know this. I somehow I think we should know what a Wobo donation is, but I can't. Well 9626 is the Wobo donation. And Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. He's the Archduke Luna, Lover of America, Lover of boobs, and he came in with 8008 He's on a roll. Sir Eric in Punta Gorda, Florida, 1806. This is Juneteenth.

Starting point is 03:03:09 This is his 25th anniversary with Dame Rachel. And they never had a fight. Now everybody celebrates her anniversary. On Juneteenth. On Juneteenth. Haha. Yes. Good call.

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Starting point is 03:04:25 Mark Miller in Lenox, Kansas or something. 5272. Biscuit on your Juneteenth, he requests. Sir Zee Nonimus, 5272. Liverpool, he's in Liverpool. He's in Liverpool, UK. Liverpool. We need more UK donors. We do. Chris Osterhuis

Starting point is 03:04:48 in Cincinnati 5271. Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania 5250. Sir Richie Rich. Haven't heard from him for a while. 5150 and now we have a few $50 donors to wrap it up. Starting with Chris Cowan in Austin, Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas, Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina, Chris Arezcog in Charlotte, North Carolina, Terrence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois. And last on the list, short list I might add, Robert Sweeney in Baltimore, Maryland.

Starting point is 03:05:32 I want to thank these people for making shows. 1774, a pretty good show. I had a lot of fun today actually. And we did now, Brennan, what's his name? Brendan. Brendan, Jay's husband, Brendan. He added a DDoosh request that came in on the transfer for Marco Kenley Ullman. Hi, it says, I donated $50 in honor of my husband,

Starting point is 03:05:59 Marco Kenley Ullman. Apparently, I was supposed to request an undouching since he's been a day one listener but never donated. I think he will be a donor now. We just had to get him started. Thanks so much. Well, here's your undouching. Of course. You've been deduced. And thank you to these donors. $50 and above. Of course, we never mentioned anything under $50 for reason of anonymity. I only see $149.90 today, but we won't mention you and lots of 33s and 4s and 3s and 2s, and we appreciate everything.

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Starting point is 03:06:55 and today Jeff Voss wishes his smoking hot wife Shailene a very happy 40 seconds she celebrated yesterday Jeffrey Toehig turned 60 tomorrow how you doing, Jeff? And Sir Richie Rich celebrates his birthday on June 25th. And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. We do have that one day, Michelle Gailinas. Gailinas. Gailinas.

Starting point is 03:07:21 I forgot how to do it already. And let's bring her up right now if you don don't mind hopping on your blade, she needs a desperate blade. And she now joins the elite group of Knights and Dames of the Noah Dinner Roundtable. We are happy to have you here. We love you so much, Michelle. And I'm very proud to pronounce Kate B as Dame Shell lost in Arizona. For you, we've got some red boys in Chardonnay,

Starting point is 03:07:46 if you're up for it. Also along with that, we've got cookies and vodka, harlots and Haldol. We've got redheads and Rize of the male variant for you. Cowgirls and coffee barnes, rubaness, winter rose, geises and sake, vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. We've got breast milk and pavlum, it's a favorite.

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Starting point is 03:09:01 In fact, Charlotte's Thursday, third Thursday kicks off at seven o'clock tonight at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. The Beer in the Sun, West Coast Canuck Time, 530 that is, will be taking place tomorrow at the Lighthouse Brewery in Victoria, British Columbia. On Saturday, the No Agenda Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities meet up. That'll be at 1130 in the morning. A great time to be at the Bourbon Street Bar and Grill no doubt in Bedford, Texas. The Fort Wayne Weekend Club 33 lunch hour dancers assemble at 1 o'clock at JK O'Donnell's in Fort Wayne, Indiana on Saturday and the Central Jersey 732 meet up we drink and we know things that is of course Sir R Daniels organizing that two o'clock on Saturday,

Starting point is 03:09:45 the Garden State Distillery in Tom's River, New Jersey, who doesn't know it. Local one, Detroit Summer Solstice Soiree, three o'clock start time at Batch Brewing Company in Detroit, Michigan. And our final show, final meetup mention, and of course, the next showday, TooManyEggs.com in Keene, number 13 Elm City Brewing Company in Keen, New Hampshire. There are many more Noagenta Meetups to find and to organize at NoagentaMeetups.com. Go ahead, take a look. If there isn't one knee, you start one yourself. Always guaranteed a party. It's easy to do.

Starting point is 03:10:18 Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want be Triggered or held alame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party They really are like a party When is your next meetup? You need to go to another meetup, man People love seeing you at the meetups.

Starting point is 03:10:46 Eh, coming. Pfft, eh, coming. What is coming is end of show mixes. We have John's tip of the day. And right now we decided, I got some complaints like, the ISOs used to be fun until you found out that John was doing the AI. Now they all suck and you you need they used to be better Like we know I have never I've rarely make an ISO myself I always wait for people to send them to me and the quality I would say indeed has been low

Starting point is 03:11:14 But that's not our fault It's up to you you guys the producer of the show So what is your what is your I don't have have an artificial intelligence ISO. I have a real one. Oh, and I was hoping you could beat it because I hate the badger people with these AI ones that are terrific by the way. Yes. Okay. So I'll play your ISO right now. We've just been on a run of really good shows lately. It's a little long, but it's fitting because it's true.

Starting point is 03:11:47 Let me try mine. That's so special. Yeah. Yeah. This one may be better. Iran can't have a nuke. You'd like, well, I got the laugh out of you. So that is the winner of the I saw contest right now.

Starting point is 03:12:03 It is time for John's Tip of the Day. Create advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes at home. Created by Dana Bernetti. So this is not a cleaning product, but this is a product that cleans. What is the difference, we wonder?

Starting point is 03:12:26 Well, if you remember, I had this thing called a scrub daddy. Scrub daddy? Which was a screwball sponge made out of some very harsh plastic. I found something better. Okay. And I don't even know how it got in the house. I think Jay dropped one off or Mimi told me about him later after I played with it. It's called a scrub buddy.

Starting point is 03:12:48 Sounds like something you get in Amsterdam at one of those massage parlors. So the scrub buddy, and there's different versions of it. If you look up scrub buddy, you're going to find they have a store, they got all kinds of different ones. The ones you want are the cheap, it's like a sponge, it's an actual sponge that's covered on both sides with a kind of an envelope of some, I don't know what plastic this is, but this stuff is like a Brillo pad in terms of,

Starting point is 03:13:22 I mean, you could scrub your skin off with whatever plastic this is but what what the reason you want it is because If anybody out there, I know you shouldn't be doing this and you have to throw them out after a while So they're disposable But if you have a nonstick pan Me with whatever coating you've got at some point point it starts, stuff starts to stick to it. And you have to scrub it off and you can't use a Brillo pad or anything.

Starting point is 03:13:53 Cause you know, you ruin your nonstick coating. Yeah. Not the case with a scrub buddy. This thing goes take off anything and it doesn't hurt the surface. I don't know what it is or how they've done it, what kind of plastic this is that's coated, that's not coated. It's like an envelope around a sponge. It's a terrific product. And the problem with that compared to scrub daddy, the scrub daddies,

Starting point is 03:14:18 you can wash the dishwasher, you can clean them. And at some point the scrub buddy has to be tossed because it just does such a great job. How many scrubs does a scrub buddy do? I think you can do about ten. Oh okay. But these are ten major. Ten major scrubs. Big scrubs. Little scrubs you could do, I don't know, a hundred but the big scrubs where you really get in there and grind something off. Wow. What are you cooking, man? That you have major scrubs in your nonstick pan. It happens.

Starting point is 03:14:49 Yeah, I'm confused. There it is, the Scrub Buddy, everybody. That is John Cena Vorak's Tip of the Day. Find them all at tipoftheday.net. Just a chip with JCD And sometimes, Adam Created by Dana Brunetti on that what is his latest show what is it called Motorhead Motorhead oh well take a look at it yeah he says he's gonna get nothing out of it because he broke up with this for this production company's gonna get okay so we should not watch it then we don't we don't know why don't give those guys any money

Starting point is 03:15:38 that's no good we have end of show mixes from Sir Michael Anthony from Professor Jade Jones and Melodious Owls, the one and only Tom Starkweather. And coming up right after we disconnect the stream, it'll be Planet Rage with Larry and Darren. If you're looking for a no agenda like show, these guys have got the goods. Not quite as good, but yeah, it's Planet Rage. It's one of my favorite listens. Oh, let me put it that way. Happy Juneteenth everybody, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.

Starting point is 03:16:17 In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're awaiting a cold day, they tell us, but it's not. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you on Thursday. Till then adios, mofos, and hooey hooey, and such. The general for 2023 All ready for the Nobel Prize You will own nothing and be happy All ready for the Nobel Prize

Starting point is 03:16:51 You have given all of your power to me All ready for the Nobel Prize Because you are too afraid to live free This is Klaus Schwab and I'm here to say You must be more of your rights away Your sacrifice is the only remedy For the real pandemic Humanity

Starting point is 03:17:11 We must prepare an angry Earth As agenda 2013 is unfair You will eat the bugs Sipping in the metaverse You will comply And it will get worse Are you ready for the new world order? Don't worry too many lights or the model's

Starting point is 03:17:29 We'll renew your sun and moon And we'll sleep you up Or not be mean problems in the new world And expect everything we do The girls we marry are the fun and the cruel And if you don't stop us, we're screwed! Davos, we are here! The agenda is quite clear! We will make you live in fear!

Starting point is 03:17:52 You are the puppet tool, I'm the puppet here! You are the puppet tool, I'm the puppet here! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu and the Israeli military leadership for clearly standing down. But the point is, and so these governments all need a boogeyman. I'm your boogeyman. Somebody had had a bunch of the troops stand down. I mean this is 9-11 all over again. I'm your boogeyman.

Starting point is 03:18:19 Break through, overrun, go in. Israel supports Amaz. There's a lot of back channel wink wink going on here. Suitcases full of cats. It is true. I'm your boogie man. And so these governments all need a boogie man. No, I don't support Amos.

Starting point is 03:18:36 You are 100% right. We don't support Amos. I'm your boogie man. I looked it up. Israeli intelligence created Amos. General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu. Let's be clear. There's no way. I'm your boogeyman. Israel supports a mosque.

Starting point is 03:18:51 It is true. I looked it up. No, I don't support a mosque. I'm your boogeyman. I mean, this is 9-11 all over again. But the point is. I'm your boogeyman. Suitcases full of cash.

Starting point is 03:19:04 There's a lot of back channel wink wink going on here. I looked it up. And so these governments all need a boogeyman. Break through, overrun, go in. And I think they were a few weeks away from having one. Well, I don't want to get involved either, but I've been saying for 20 years, maybe longer, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. I've been saying it for a long time. My supporters don't want to see Iran have a nuclear weapon. I've been saying it for a long time. My supporters don't wanna see Iran have a nuclear weapon.

Starting point is 03:19:27 It was such a shame, they were so close. Iran was very close to signing what would have been a very good agreement for them. And maybe that could still happen, I guess. They do wanna come and see us. They wanna see me in the White House, that's a big statement. I mean, they asked if they could come,

Starting point is 03:19:42 we'll see if that happens. It's not that easy for them to come. They can't get out. You know, they're in Iran, and in one case they wanted to come so badly, but he can't get out because there's bombs dropping all over the place. Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Too much devastation. And they'd use it. You know, I believe they'd use it. You know, I believe they'd use it. The Best Podcast in the Universe The Best Podcast in the Universe Adios, mofo.

Starting point is 03:20:11 Dvorak.org, slash, N, A. Iran can't have a nuke.

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