No Agenda - 1777 - "Java Shack"

Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a stunner. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, June 29th, 2025. This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media assassination episode 1777. This is No Agenda. Now with less than one-third adult content and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas

Starting point is 00:00:17 Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we all wonder whatever happened to Trini Lopez I'm John C. Dvorak First of all, I'm almost positive you have used that as an opening on the show before I Hope not. I I may have to look it up Second of all if I had a, I'd hammer in the morning. Wasn't that the Trini Lopez? It was one of his songs, yeah, it was of course, I think it was a Bob Seeger song.

Starting point is 00:00:57 Not Bob Seeger, but... Bob Seeger. Bob Seeger. No, the other Seeger. Pete Seeger. The folklore communist. And it just came to mind because I was watching the American Masters story about Bob Dylan. American Masters story? Is that different from the movie currently out? No, American Masters is a PBS thing.

Starting point is 00:01:23 It's on every week. Oh, okay. They had one on Little Richard and Bob Dylan. Wow. And Bob Dylan was quite the character. Wait, wait, wait. Boomer Talk on the H. That's right everybody. Boomer Talk.

Starting point is 00:01:38 Hey, it was on TV just the other day. Well, just the fact that you're watching TV is now Boomer Talk. I got to tell you. the other day so it can't be there. Just the fact that you're watching TV is now boomer talk. I gotta tell you, you know, I'm trying not to be irritated by it because obviously I don't feel like I'm a boomer but because everyone knows it irritates me it only exacerbates the problem. So they just think it's funny and they just keep doing it over and over. My kid, hey dad, boomer. I mean you're used to it because, well, golly, you actually are a boomer. I mean, you're used to it because, well, golly, you actually are a boomer. I'm a real boomer.

Starting point is 00:02:11 There it is. I'm a real boomer. That should be a... Not a bogus cusp boomer. Boomer adjacent, as we say. Well, you're technically a boomer. Well, if you listen to Listen if you read that, you know, I'm sure you don't get any of this Because even your Twitter your X handle is you know, it's not just John C. Dvorak. It's The real Dvorak whatever it is. No one can remember it your emails Difficult. Yeah Dvorak is tough for the non-boomers. Trust me.

Starting point is 00:02:50 You don't get the email. I'm literally getting emails. Enjoy sucking Trump off. I mean, that's literally the stuff I deal with every single day. Every single day. It's unbelievable. This is new. No, it's not new. This is, by the way, it's thanks to you.

Starting point is 00:03:10 Thanks to you saying, you know, you brought up the Jew hate on the last show. And then everyone blames me. It's unbelievable. Well, you know. Yeah, you know what? You know what? Adam at curry.com is a lot easier to spell. This is well, of course, this is my thesis. And this is the kind of dimwits that would write in that, you know, they, I don't know how to spell curry. I think I can spell that because I had it for dinner.

Starting point is 00:03:41 So listen to this. Here, I'll just give you a couple of examples. We're starting to show off with a bang. Yeah, we're starting with gems. I thought I was listening to the Mark Levin show there for a minute. With the ridiculous Dvorak's they're all just jurators line. This entire show was like Fox Boomer Slap. Kind of like that one. It was good. Why would you straw man a concerns of Zionism with Jew hatred? I'm not sure what that means actually.

Starting point is 00:04:14 I don't either. They spent the first hour calling anyone who doesn't want to send Israel their billions and billions per year anti-Semites and clarifying that Zionism is impossible and then cry that donations are slowing down because the low IQ boomers that eat this shit up are dying off. We never said that anyone's dying off. No, no, no, nor did we say, I think, that criticizing saying Zionism is impossible. I don't think we ever said that. that criticized saying Zionism is impossible. I don't think we ever said that. How's multipolar world order means that China is suddenly going to run the world

Starting point is 00:04:51 and the US has to do things at the behest of China. If the US can't compete without being a gangster, then the US deserves it. That's a good one. Adam Curry, why are you acting like the government of Israel isn't controlling us? Can it be people within our government slash billionaires working for the benefit of Israel sometimes their interests overlap with the military industrial complex? Seriously, they lost me big time on this one. I haven't listened a ton, but I always thought they were coming from a more conspiracy-minded

Starting point is 00:05:25 thing outside the box angle. Seems like they took a sharp turn towards BoomerCon Inc. What? I know, I know, I know. It's crazy. Well, no, but what is it? BoomerCon? Yeah, BoomerCon Inc.

Starting point is 00:05:37 I don't know. I don't know. Like Neocon, BoomerCon, I guess. Oh, BoomerCon, Neocon, or maybe like Comic-Con. Yeah, in a way, BoomerCon, Comicocon or maybe like Comic Con. Yeah in a way Boomer Con, Comic Con. Yeah sure. Yeah so we have a big meetup. Can you imagine the Boomer Con meetup? Oh my goodness. That'd be great. Where's the door? And here's my favorite. Ridiculous! You guys are taking money from Israel, it's obvious!

Starting point is 00:06:05 Your analysis is too absurd. Where is this money? Your analysis is too absurd and biased to be believed as sincere. Just admit it and interview your daddy BB. Wow! The thing that gets... Somebody actually wrote that. You're starting to write your own. No, I'm not me yourself

Starting point is 00:06:25 No, no, you're sleep writing go write on my ex account and see it Yeah, it's all public So the thing that baffles me though Wow, the thing that baffles me it is that Maybe people haven't been listening for a long time, but we have always just given our opinion no matter how harsh the blowback, no matter how harsh.

Starting point is 00:06:54 And we've taken the blowback time and time again. And then years later, people go, oh, you were kind of right about that. Mostly, right? I don't know, was there anything that we really took a stand on that we were so incredibly wrong on? Is this the one? Is this the one? Finally, this is the one. No. So, I have a lot. It's the aircraft carrier, that's all there is to it. It's just that simple. What did that take a genius to figure it out? Well, this, you know,

Starting point is 00:07:22 What did that take a genius to figure it out? Well, this, you know, this is a very polarizing moment in, uh, in America. And I think, because I really, I was reflecting on this as, you know, because you and I are indeed baffled. We're baffled by the, it's so obvious, history shows exactly what we have done to the state of Israel. This was cooked up in 1974. I know it's a long time ago.

Starting point is 00:07:54 And admittedly, even as a young boomer adjacent, I wasn't quite politically aware at the time. But the history books do show that the US uses Israel for many things and many many bad things. But also... Yeah, well, you know, you have to do... sometimes you have to crack an egg to make an omelet. Yeah, you know, so there's no doubt about that, but what has crept into the narrative and this started several years ago with, so this, it's not new, but it started several years ago with no agenda social. If you recall the whole reason that I said, Hey, we got to disassociate from this.

Starting point is 00:08:38 Before that with no agenda forums. No, that wasn't about Israel. No agenda forums. Yeah, you're right. No agenda social became a bunch of, yeah. It was the most blocked instance on the Fetty verse because people would just go insane with their, with literally Jew hate memes. That's what it was. But that's what it always goes from Israel to,

Starting point is 00:09:03 oh, there's another meme with a crook nose. Okay, very funny. But the more I look at this, the more I think about it, the more I see what's happening, which is really, it's really interesting how you have, I'd say non-political people on the right, which is, I think that's pretty much, if you look at the old no ag agenda, the no authority crowd, they're not really political. They just think that Israel's running the show and, and of course, you know, they're, they're, they are blackmailing everybody in Congress and they run our policy and, and we're all doing everything at the behest, at the behest of Israel. Yeah, we have to, we have to stop right there and assume that the reason for this thought is an op. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:09:50 And I actually, now I've been thinking, it's been on my heart, it really has been. It's like, hey, I'm a sensitive guy, these things affect me. They couldn't imprison President Trump. They couldn't kill him. I think this is the new attack vector to literally rip apart support for President Trump. And this issue of Israel is dividing people who are not left, but they're actually bringing them over to the, you know, the, the, the protesters at Columbia side. It's really, really interesting. So how do these two opposite sides of the spectrum unite?

Starting point is 00:10:34 Now, personally, I'm sensitive to this issue because I grew up in the Netherlands. I played with kids and their grandmother would be there. She had numbers tattooed on her arm. And so I got a very different education in how Jew hate, how that got out of control. And when you think about it, when you think about Kanye West and Nick Fuentes and all these people who are blaming every problem in America, every problem with our policy is Israel,

Starting point is 00:11:05 it wouldn't take much for a different president or leader, could even be a Republican, to say, you know, Israel really is the problem. And it wouldn't take much to get people riled up because we are in accelerated idiocracy. That's my new version of AI. It's obvious that we are becoming stupid, but I'm pretty sure the people who do real PSYOPs is the military industrial complex. It's all about them. It always has been. When did Eisenhower do his speech? What was that? Was that before I was born? Was that 19? What year were you born? I forgot. Almost 1965, but okay. Oh no, no. Yeah, well he was still in office. He left office in 60. Right. So this was his last speech.

Starting point is 00:11:52 One of his last speeches around 59, I believe. Right. So before I was born, just listen to this. It's worth replaying this bit because there's some things in here that you need to pay attention to. This is history. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. Three and a half million back before 1960. Just imagine how many people now work directly or indirectly in the military

Starting point is 00:12:41 industrial complex. It must be at least tenfold. We annually spend on military security alone, more than the net income of all United States corporations. Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. It's new! industry is new in the American experience. The total influence, economic, political, even spiritual, is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.

Starting point is 00:13:26 Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. Note he's not saying Israel. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel

Starting point is 00:14:08 the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. So I just really, and I got to talk about the military industrial complex for a second here and how I believe that it may even be the DIA and it's very easy to sign up. They do this all the time. They're proud of it. They're proud of what they do on social media. They're proud of the people they get on big podcast microphones. They love it.

Starting point is 00:14:39 And they do this all the time. And if anything, they hide behind Israel with APAC because the money comes from the military industrial complex. A reminder, here's Massey, no friend of the Israel lobby, no friend even of President Trump, spelling it out very clearly where the money comes from and the money that goes to Israel does not go into Israel's coffers. There's no big giant Great Britain lobby, there's no Australian lobby, there's no German lobby. Oh, the other countries don't have them. No, no, not like this. This is singular. This is unique. I mean, if you're an ally, why wouldn't we work with you? Why do you have to convince us

Starting point is 00:15:21 that you're our ally? Why do you have to basically go into every congressional office and convince them? And it's because they want to keep the money flowing and they've got a good return on their investment. I mean, we send more foreign aid to Israel than to any other country. Yeah. They're like 10 million people or something.

Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, I think this year. I don't know the population in Tennessee, but it's probably about on that order. Yeah, I think this year they said we spent like $12 billion, but that's not actual dollars. It's in military aid, right? Yeah, well, it's dollars that come out of the treasury. Yeah, but it's not like we give them, it's a gift certificate that's redeemable

Starting point is 00:16:05 at Lockheed Martin and your local Raytheon, you know. Okay, got it. That's the point. And the military has always shaped our culture. In Hollywood, they have the biggest budgets for the movies you see. Top Gun, Rocky, remember the shake with wrestling? Come on.

Starting point is 00:16:24 It's not the Jews making up this idea. This is the military industrial complex. The iron shake. The iron shake. Thank you. I have his autograph on a photo. I sit right by this desk. I'm sure you do. So what have we heard recently? All the grids going down. Chinese military-aged men. Russia's going to take over all of Europe. China is buying up all the land. None of it, none of it comes to fruition. My own military industrial complex handlers tried this on me since this Iran thing rose.

Starting point is 00:16:56 You know, oh yeah, Israel, because I know it. I know who they are. I know what they're sending me. And, you know, and I just ignore it. They stop eventually because like, nah, Curry, he's no good. I bet you every single pod. This guy's no good. But we're also, we are new handler at him. We're irrelevant. We're just two boomers. We are boomers.

Starting point is 00:17:18 You happen on a podcast. We have about a million people and they're all, uh, what'd you call them? A fringe. Yeah. They think for themselves anyway. So with or without us, they'd probably, you know, have their own opinions. However, if you and I weren't who we were, who we are right now, first of all, you'd have a vinegar book and I would probably have Ryan Seacrest career,

Starting point is 00:17:40 but that's not who we are. I don't know why, but we just like, no, I'm not interested in going along to get along. I've never done any of that. And I think that many people, podcasters, ironically podcasters, they have audience capture and they see these, they get these messages, oh crap, well, let me look into this.

Starting point is 00:18:03 Well, yeah, what are we sending to Israel? And they don't have the age and the knowledge of history or maybe even have cracked a book from time to time or gone back and looked at something like where did this really come from? And this op, I think is meant to undermine Trump and Trump is making a big mistake. He should be honest with the American people and tell everybody really what's going on because now we have no gone. Gone is the talk of immigration, inflation, even Russia, Ukraine is on the back burner, tariffs, none of this is important.

Starting point is 00:18:43 Even Russia, Ukraine is on the back burner, tariffs. None of this is important. And I think this op is broad. It's been thought about. Someone smart is doing this. Fox News, it all clicked into place for me all of a sudden. Of course, Fox is run by the Democrats. Democrats run Fox News. So what do they do?

Starting point is 00:19:04 They put that moron, Levinvin on prime time, hype him up. He's got all the promos and all he's talking about is, Israel, Israel, that pisses everybody off. It's a divisionary tactic. The same for the five. I don't watch Greg Gutfeld. I'm sure he just does dumb jokes at night. And when did this really start? This started with Elon. Greg Gutfeld, I'm sure he just does dumb jokes at night.

Starting point is 00:19:26 And when did this really start? This started with Elon. And I think Elon's just weak. You know, whatever they did, Elon, look at this. Elon, see what we're doing. We're getting everyone to burn your cars. How much more can you stand, Elon? You better denounce Trump.

Starting point is 00:19:41 One of the Doge guys, he's now moving over to Colorado, came to visit me before they left. And I said, you know, well, this is about China. And he said, no, no, AIPAC, AIPAC, it's Israel. They run the whole government. They got the goods and everybody,

Starting point is 00:19:58 which to me means that's what Doge was thinking. That's what Elon was thinking. So all of this is working very, very well because you got Marjorie Taylor Green going on Tucker saying, oh, I'm sick and tired of Israel and Trump is, you know, what happened to him and it's all over. It is, it is, he, President Trump needs to come out and just say it. This was about China. He president Trump needs to come out and just say it. This was about China and

Starting point is 00:20:32 Thank you to the Israelis not Israel not BB Netanyahu. Thank you to the massage. You should say it thank you to the massage because they helped us send the message loud and clear and Luckily, I can find some compatriots in this Mike Baker has a podcast and he had Stephen Yates on I Mike Baker has a podcast and he had Steven Yates on. I have a Mike Baker podcast clip today. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, I'll play mine. Mine is about, mine is about, is a look when you're done with this little thing you're doing. Yes. Your little thing.

Starting point is 00:20:59 My little thing, my little thing I'm doing here. Your little thing. Yeah. I'm going to talk about the, about the spooks on the podcast and the deconstruction of that phony baloney DIA memo. Oh, excellent. Which to me was also complete DIA propaganda. Hey, we need to have more bombs.

Starting point is 00:21:22 We got to have more stuff. We got to be worried. Oh, sleeper cells, sleeper cells everywhere. Bull, bull crap. And by the way, Iranians really warm up to American culture. Very much so. Anybody say, I'm reminded of an old Saturday night bit where these sleeper cells, this is from years ago, during, I forgot what period of, of terrorism it was, but the Zarianite bit was these

Starting point is 00:21:50 sleeper cells were sitting, they were in Armonk, New York, or some place in the- Armonk. It is in a suburb and they got a call. Okay, it's time to take action. So I got my wife and kids, I gotta go to a little league game this afternoon. What are you doing here with me?

Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh dude, remember when, was it just before Christmas and they were worried about a dirty bomb exploding and the guy was filming me for some Bitcoin documentary and he was calling up his kids and like, oh, I got to get them out of New York. I got to get them into the center of the country because of the dirty bomb. I don't remember what hoax that was. And by the way, when you go after the Jews and Israel slash the Jews, you automatically go after the Christians. You see, because that's exactly what happened with between Tucker and Ted Cruz, who was ill-prepared.

Starting point is 00:22:48 No kidding. And the American church is weak. It's weak. They won't stand up and say, no, that's bull crap. It's weak. I would agree with that. Yes, it's very weak. There's people trying to... In fact, the whole... In fact, this recent Supreme Court's justice showed how weak the American church is. It was a Muslim that pulled the plug on all the porn in grammar school. Yeah, I know. It was the Muslims that had the nerve to do it. The Christians didn't do anything about it. They're very confused and they've been beaten down by, you know, stuff like

Starting point is 00:23:25 confused and they've been beaten down by you know stuff like the separation clause non-existent separation clause so there's all kind we have a spiritual problem in America there's not not a political problem so now I want to play thank God we have Mike Baker and Steven Yates to talk some sense in everybody about what really took place which was China got a wake-up call from President Trump. In the immediate aftermath, we've heard very little from China. What do you make of the Chinese reaction and mindset towards what's happened regarding Iran? Well, my first assumption is that they, like most of the world, including a lot of Americans, did not realize this was actually going to happen. I think that they were probably thrown a bit when they saw the B2s going to Guam.

Starting point is 00:24:12 That is getting close to the area they like to operate in. Then all of a sudden, before they really get any other news, some things go boom, boom in Iran from another area. So a little bit of a head fake probably made them spin a bit. But they also were a little high on their own supply in giving Pakistan some weapons. And they thought that the recent skirmish between India and Pakistan saw Pakistan maybe besting some technology the Indians had. And all of a sudden, the world sees that American stealth technology actually works, that we

Starting point is 00:24:47 can actually have an operation without leaks. And I think that probably put a pin in one of the balloons of China is on the rise, inevitably the next boss on the block, America's on the decline, and you better make a deal with the new boss. And so I bet they had a big big deep breath to contemplate what just happened And I mentioned I think four or five shows ago be on the lookout for the term Multi-polar world because that's what this is about and I will I remain as an American I'm glad because I don't want the Chinese running the show. Call me a douchebag, call me an imperialist, whatever.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Best price is not my culture. So what is the relationship between Iran and China? Talk to me if you could about the extent, the nature of the relationship between Iran and China. And then also in context with China's response in the aftermath of the attacks. Are you surprised at their reaction which, I mean to me or to anybody who's not an expert on China, we look at it and go, that's pretty hands off from their perspective.

Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah. Well, yeah, because they have been giving a political narrative out to the world that together with Moscow and Tehran and maybe Pyongyang and a few others, they are trying to create this alternative universe that was going to be multipolar and balance against the bad Americans. And it was gonna, they were gonna have their own currency be a reserve currency, all this pie in the sky stuff

Starting point is 00:26:18 about what they were gonna do in the world. And so if you believe that narrative and there's some truth to their trying to at least stoke those ideas, then this does look like a conspicuous pulling back from someone who's supposed to be an ally getting walloped and you're like, whoa, you're on your own. I don't really know who you are. Iran's response by threatening to shut off the Straits of Hormuz, that was definite no-go zone for China because they are still very dependent on a lot of energy from the Gulf, not just buying a lot of Iranian oil, which they have done, but from other sources too.

Starting point is 00:26:58 My guess is they were conveying that privately to Tehran. I think that they did have a national interest in there not being a wider conflict because it would have a material impact on their economic forecast. They can't be the manufacturing supply platform for the world without that dose of natural gas and oil from the Gulf. And so when President Trump comes out and says, hey, thanks to the IDF and the Mossad and BB and whatever. Yeah, he's right. It's always seemed that the Chinese regime has been giddy anytime the US gets mired in some sort of overseas conflict.

Starting point is 00:27:38 You know, again, if you go with the theory that the regime, the Chinese regime always acts in its own best interests, they looked at it and said, well, it's not in our best interest if this thing escalates. Well, and I think they'll still play some politics, but basically they are a chaser, not a maker in this. So they see a situation. What do you mean by that? So they're not driving events, they're chasing events. And so when this breaks out, number one, Israel proves capable to do nearly miraculous things to the Iranians. That has to freak the Chinese out because Israel is not a major power. Israel is not one of these poles in this balancing act that they thought they were going to try to come out on top with this multipolar world.

Starting point is 00:28:29 Of course, Israel has advanced technology. They have been fighting. They know how to fight. They also know how to do real intelligence, I think stunningly effective intelligence in the way these things played out. All of that, I think, has to freak China out because if you look at what the Ukrainians were able to do with drones deep into Russia, and then you look at what the Israelis were able to do deep into Iran, not just with drones, but human intelligence placing people in vital

Starting point is 00:29:00 positions. They had basically Tehran's complete playbook and they were striking with unbelievable precision where there's just a burnt black hole in one flat, in one building, killing one top military advisor. That's the kind of stuff that creeps the Chinese out that someone could do to them at some point. Exactly. And I wish President Trump would just do

Starting point is 00:29:25 a Ross Perot. Come out, draw with your Sharpie, say, look, here, look, people, here's what the world is like right now. Here are the options. This is what we're doing. Instead, and yes, you either have the military force

Starting point is 00:29:41 or you don't. And all that... Your reference to Ross Perot is lost on half the audience, but you're absolutely correct about it. Well, hello, it's... Boomer Talk on the 8th. Explain what Ross Perot used to do. I'm still amazed that no one else has ever done this.

Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, he used to buy half an hour of airtime on the networks when he was running as an independent and he'd come out and then he'd say, all right people, here's the money. Here's what we got. Here's what we owe. And he'd do it like a budget at home. But he'd also have, he'd have these little drawings and he'd draw these little very good drawings that were obviously, you know, somebody else did. And he just reproduced them and he was he could have

Starting point is 00:30:32 Become president of the United States as a president except until somebody showed him a picture Yeah, well they threatened his family I think is what they did when they kill you We're gonna kill your family if you don't get out of the way because he was really disrupting that election so like, if you don't get out of the way, because he was really disrupting that election. So, it was, so I think, and I, and by the way, I don't think president Trump is capable of doing something like that. He just, he can't talk, which is a problem. And I don't know where JD Vance is, but JD Vance used to be the Trump whisperer and could explain it and translate that, at least during the campaign. and could explain it and translate that, at least during the campaign. You know, so you get, what you get is you get conversations with Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker that go like this.

Starting point is 00:31:14 Since I've become a member of Congress since 2021, we have voted on 22 resolutions for Israel. 22 of them. All kinds of resolutions, you know, denouncing anti-Semitism, supporting Israel. We voted on 22 of those. We never vote on resolutions proclaiming great things about America. By the way, a resolution is meaningless. We do resolutions about a hundred things. They are stupid. It's a resolution. Yeah, we all agree on this Yeah, we agree. Okay, we agree on it. It's just military industrial complex nonsense and cover-up When will people see this?

Starting point is 00:31:54 Certain Americans. I hope no I have hopes for America But we have voted on 22 resolutions in the house Defending Israel. How many of you voted yes on? I don't know my exact record. The last one I voted no on and then the one before that I voted present because I just started getting sick of it. Well, that's kind of it.

Starting point is 00:32:19 I mean, I never really, I've always noticed this certainly in the last, I don't know how many years it's been, a while where Republicans in the Congress are always talking about Israel. I'm not against Israel. I've always liked Israel. So I haven't really noticed it. Okay, fine. Love Israel.

Starting point is 00:32:35 Love any country, whatever. But it feels like something has changed. Like why? Clearly it has for you. What is that thing? Well, I think here's the situation. It's coming to a point where it's so obvious all the time in everyone's language, the social media posts they put out, the statements that they make. They have to proclaim Israel. They have to proclaim their faith and loyalty in Israel and how

Starting point is 00:33:02 Israel is our greatest ally. And it's a statement that has to be made over and over and over again to the point it's becoming like, wait a minute, what about our own country? What about our own people? That is the talking point. That is she is doing exactly, exactly what they want her to do. It's spot on. Well, who's they? The military, the defense base, the defense industrial base.

Starting point is 00:33:27 The white, what are they getting out of that? I agree with you by the way. I think this whole thing is like a giant, very well structured op. And I think there was an element of keeping the Jews in their place. Of course they're abusing the Jews themselves. You guys just shut up for a minute. You're a bunch of intellectual bookish types. Shut up, y'all. Shut up. They were using you. We're going to, you know, you shut up.

Starting point is 00:33:53 We're going to do this and that. And we're going to hate on Israel for a while because it draws attention. There's some, it's too little, for my taste, it's a little too complicated. And I think you might feel the same way by asking Trump to explain it when he's never going to explain it. It's not his thing. But the thing is when she says, well, hold on, what about us? Again, immigration.

Starting point is 00:34:14 The president won the election on immigration. Inflation. Down. What do eggs cost? I mean mean tariffs. He is doing everything he said for America including scurrying off the Chinese out of the Middle East and Africa and Africa. The Africa thing is interesting is the most interesting part of this. I actually have the You know, I have that clip here.

Starting point is 00:34:44 Sorry, I was that clip here. Sorry? I was going to say, by the way, we don't have any clips on this, but all hell is breaking loose in Kenya. The Gen Z kids in Kenya of all places, Kenya. Yeah. Or, it just is out of control. Pride stuff? Is it pride stuff? No, no, it's not pride stuff.

Starting point is 00:35:03 It's about taxes. Gen Z. Really? So, listen Really? So this is Manga, Africa News. But they actually, exactly, and we talked about this before. Anyone was talking about this truce. The agreement signed Friday between Congo and Rwanda has been touted by many as a major step towards ending years of war in Congo's East but this analyst says mineral wealth is just one of the many drivers of conflict in the region and not the only one. I find also western parties like the US have honed mind before in the in the East and DRC of course during the Obama administration they sold some of these

Starting point is 00:35:42 mines to China. What? What? What? Obama sold some of those mines to China? The Eastern DRC of course during the Obama administration they sold some of these mines to China. Which owns a lot of mines in the Eastern DRC. And parties to the conflict till this day are still very focused on their interest in this mineral resources. While the agreement principally concerns the states of Congo and Rwanda, there are dozens of armed groups and proxy forces in the picture which could complicate any chances of a lasting peaceful solution.

Starting point is 00:36:20 There's a disconnect between the high-level peace building, the ones we see on TV, the Qatar process and the AU-led Luanda-Angola process. These peace processes have not led to any tangible agreement for over 30 years that this conflict has gone on and we are seeing that there's a gap that these two high-level peace building and-level peace building and the grassroot peace building are not connecting. One of those groups is Rwanda backed M23 with which Congo is holding separate talks mediated by Qatar. So it's not over. I mean, yeah, we've got the high-level peace.

Starting point is 00:36:59 We're going to send military down there to keep the peace. You know, the thing that we do, the Chinese don't do down there to keep the peace? You know the thing that we do the Chinese don't do down there. The Chinese have used all kinds of techniques mostly in the form of bribery by we're gonna build roads, we're gonna build a dam, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. They put a bunch of Chinese laborers in there of course and so they can actually get the job done. But we've been in Africa, Africom, and bombing, more bombing going on down there over the years, the last few decades, we've been bombing and we've got people there. It's just never reported, nobody discusses it.

Starting point is 00:37:36 Well back to my original premise. Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshole. That is what is going on here. And I'm just sad, I really am, that our own people, that they cannot get past the Israel thing and they are so convinced because the op has been going on for years.

Starting point is 00:37:59 It may be even never stopped after World War II, as far as I'm concerned. But it has always been about military. Yeah, there's a lot of people who love killing people. A lot of people in our elite circles, a lot. There's definitely people in Congress who like killing people. They're sick. But I truly think President Trump knows what he's doing in this particular case.

Starting point is 00:38:24 He also listens poorly. I would feel a lot better if he said, you know, that vaccine sucked. But instead his ego gets in the way and he goes, operation Warp Speed, we have saved millions a lot. He hasn't brought Warp Speed up for a long time. Well, yeah, but he, Emea Culpa, from time to time humanizes him. He knows what happens when you start talking about vaccines. This, Kennedy is his front man for this.

Starting point is 00:38:53 Kennedy's doing what he can. And every time he turns around, he's slammed by people in Congress and everybody else. They're going to kill us all if we don't have more vaccines. I got some stuff on that later. But also the Panama Canal. That was for our benefit. Everyone gets a nose out of joint, pun intended.

Starting point is 00:39:18 Oh, what's he doing now? He's doing it for America. And I think indirectly for the world, you know what? The EU, they're gonna jump right into bed with bricks. They are weak. Queen Ursula is already talking about a new WTO. You know, well, we got to avoid the mistakes of the past. Buh, buh, buh, buh.

Starting point is 00:39:38 They're going to be completely owned and run by Chinese culture. Culture of surveillance. I think we're still kind of fighting it here, kind of. Maybe lost. Well, I don't take such a dim view of that. Of the EU? For one thing, the latest BRICS conference, Putin and Xi, neither one of them showed up.

Starting point is 00:39:59 Well, of course not. Left the rest of them hanging. When was the conference? It was just like a couple of days ago. Yeah. Gee, is that a coincidence? Well, it's not coincidence at all, but the point is that we put a little pressure on the situation by being ourselves.

Starting point is 00:40:12 And the next thing you know, these guys are bailing out of their own operation. Right. So I don't see the Europeans are, yeah, I agree they're weak, but they're not going with this crap. I hope not I agree they're weak, but they're not going with this crap. I hope not.

Starting point is 00:40:30 But they're pretty far down the road as far as I'm concerned. So anyway, let's- Well, they are with the surveillance state. That's got to stop. Yeah, it's too far. They love it. I mean, the Brits are completely out of control. Yeah. So, you know, it's all funny and we can all do memes, but people in the UK are,

Starting point is 00:40:48 they're beside themselves. What has happened? What has happened to our country? And Ireland is another example. You know, and it all just kind of gets swept under the rug. And so this president has done amazing things. Please try and not get so hung up on this Israel meme. You know, oh, they're killing.

Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah, Israel sucks. What they're doing in Palestine to the Palestinians is no country Palestine. I even fall for it myself. But why won't any other country in the Middle East take the Palestinians? Uh. You know, so it's... Use your... Use your noggin from time to time. You can yell at me all you want. And I... And I advise it.

Starting point is 00:41:39 And... And by the way, I'd say to the American church, you've got to get out there. You've got to... You've got to calm out there. You've got to calm people down. You've got to bring people to Jesus. Otherwise we're lost. Nothing else can save us. All right. Go into your DIA stuff.

Starting point is 00:41:53 I don't think that's just me. I think you're taking a dim view. Yeah, I'm taking a dim view. So the DIA leak was interesting because it brought me to these guys that do, that are ex spooks, including Mike Baker, who are doing these analysis, they're doing these analysis podcasts, which I think are generally speaking, not as good as they could be. But I did discover the right report. And I think this guy who's very happy with his voice, he really thinks he should be a broadcaster.

Starting point is 00:42:24 Oh, does he puke a lot? Well, that's pretty close to it. And Baker and him kind of have competing podcasts and Baker actually has the president's daily briefing. The other guy started his podcast and called it the president's daily briefing. Then it quickly changed into the bright report because of these things do happen. No way. But the clip I got from him was from the presidential daily briefing.

Starting point is 00:42:49 Yes, because Baker has that. It's the other guy who had the president's daily briefing after Baker already established it. But he didn't know about Baker's or something. I don't know how that happened. Oh, podcast wars, podcast wars. A little podcast wars going on. So he changed it from the President's Daily Briefing to the Wright Report. But they both discussed, and I thought it was interesting because I think

Starting point is 00:43:14 Wright is a little spookier than Baker. Baker's more of a, I mean, Baker's, he comes on Gutfeld quite a bit, and he plays the CIA spook on the show. And they defer to him a lot for that. And he doesn't really bring much spy craft to the show. And he doesn't do his, even to his own show, he does some good interviews like the one you played, but he doesn't give us any insight or any feelings.

Starting point is 00:43:43 He doesn't, you don't get the impression that he's currently really ready. He's not ready. Yeah, you get this sense that he's just doing the news. And so his daily briefing is not I don't think is that valuable of a piece of podcasting. But let's listen to what Mike Baker talks about when he talks about it. Got a little clip here on his, his, he went

Starting point is 00:44:05 on for 15 minutes about the DIA leak, but it was mostly, and this is, we're talking about the leaked memo, which they're trying to track down who leaked it. I think it's a congressman. And Jesse Water says he thinks he knows who it is exactly. It's someone in an intelligence committee. And Baker goes on forever about it. This is pretty much what he says over and over again. This is his take on it. This is DIA League by Mike Baker?

Starting point is 00:44:39 Yes. Okay. Is that the assessment was labeled, quote, low confidence. And in intelligence speak, well that's an important descriptor. A low confidence assessment means analysts don't have enough verified high quality information to reach a solid conclusion. It's a... But this what is he's trying to do casey case him? He sounds almost like AI. Yes, he does sound like AI, but this is his...

Starting point is 00:45:05 That's his read. He... I can't explain what he's trying to do, but he's trying to sound like a professional. And now we have a long distance dedication from Missouri. The problem I have with the modern, some of these guys, they're using techniques, radio announcer techniques from the 50s. Yes. And they're trying to sound like an old radio announcer and it just doesn't work anymore. The voice, the natural voice is like the ones,

Starting point is 00:45:34 the ones like I employ where I stutter and stammer and I can't pronounce things correctly and I can't type right. And can't read, can't type right. It's just, it's an amateur hour sound that really has the current modern appeal. And now we go to Mike Baker talking about the DIA leak on the right report. A low-confidence assessment please.

Starting point is 00:45:53 No, he's not on the right report. Whatever. See you later guys. Whatever. The other report. Analysts don't have enough verified high-quality information to reach a solid conclusion. It's essentially educated guesswork. The evidence may be thin, contradictory, or based on sources that aren't fully vetted. It doesn't mean that the report is necessarily wrong,

Starting point is 00:46:14 but it does mean that it's speculative. Analysts are essentially saying, look, this is one possible interpretation, but we're not betting all the marbles on it. So when a report like that gets leaked, while still being categorized as low-confidence, well it's a major red flag. It's not supposed to be treated as fact, it's supposed to be kept in-house while the full picture develops. Second point, the timing and framing of this leak raises serious questions about motive. This wasn't a full review, it was a preliminary snapshot, likely updated daily as new intelligence comes in. Yet someone chose

Starting point is 00:46:49 to leak it just days after the strikes, and they did so in a way that casts doubt on the mission's success. That suggests someone wanted to get ahead of the official narrative, maybe to discredit the administration, maybe to apply political pressure, or maybe for whatever whatever reason, to create confusion. And for whatever that reason may be, selectively leaking a speculative early-stage report is a classic move in the world of information warfare. The ultimate truth on this matter is that we won't know the full extent of the damage or the status of Iran's nuclear program for weeks, maybe even months, until inspectors can get back on the ground. And frankly, that's always provided a limited view anyway. And until more intelligence is gathered from credible human sources with access,

Starting point is 00:47:35 well, everything else is just guesswork. So here's what bugs it? Yeah, it doesn't matter. The mission was send a message to China. Don't go there. This is not what we're talking about. I understand. No, you can bring that up after I bring up the other stuff. And the second thing, I think it was a big mistake to have Hegseth, who's lost his marbles. Hegseth is really... this is the most disappointing guy because he's a professional broadcaster. Why don't you bring out some dude with a lot of fruit salad, you know, it's like, well,

Starting point is 00:48:16 you know, we are, I'm a, I'm a forced, forced art general. When Cain came out, he's- Yeah, but they pushed him aside. Hegseth mugged the stage. The Hegseth is the problem. He's the lightning rod. No, they should have brought Corilla out. Anybody but Hegseth. It was a mistake. Okay. That's a nice aside,

Starting point is 00:48:38 but let's go back to the point here. Okay. All right. We got these two spooks doing podcasts. Hey, what about us? Aren't we two spooks doing a podcast? We're not spooks. That's the problem. That's the problem. We're just independents. It's not a problem, believe me. So we have, so Wright has, he's better and you'll see, and I think he's read in and I think he's,

Starting point is 00:49:07 he's actually still on the payroll because in the second clip, I got two clips from him discussing this DIA thing. On the second clip, you tell me he's not working for somebody when he comes up with what he says, well, let's listen to his intro. Now you're going to, if you didn't like Mike Baker's presentation, you're going to hate you didn't like Mike Baker's presentation, you're gonna hate this guy because he's over the top with his phony baloney announcer voice and his ridiculous modulation, over the, you know, just crazy modulation. But his analysis of the DIA league is far superior.

Starting point is 00:49:42 Axios News and the Washington Free Beacon report that the Intel assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency that of course suggested that these strikes on Iran fell short. Well that assessment was actually based on bad intel and bad judgment. Here's what we know. Apparently DIA analysts... Here's what we know. Let's go to the videotape. ...plussed use some early satellite images for part of their assessment,

Starting point is 00:50:04 but mostly something called signals intelligence, or SIGINT. In this case, they used captured phone calls from Iranian nuclear and military personnel who were calling back into headquarters elements to provide situation reports or sit reps. Well, that was a problem for a couple of reasons. First, these Iranians knew or suspected

Starting point is 00:50:23 that their phones were being tapped. So they were feeding false information into their phone calls hoping that the West would pick it up and think it was real. And allegedly, that is what happened. Second, other personnel in Iran were relaying good news only back to their regime headquarters because they didn't want to be candid about how bad things were really out there in the field back to their senior leaders. And that is the other stream of intel used by the DIA analysts, just inaccurate. So when the subsequent DIA report was leaked, Israeli officials were working on their own

Starting point is 00:50:57 assessment and they saw it and they were totally befuddled. Their sources on the ground in Iran knew that Operation Midnight Hammer was a great success. Plus, the folks at Mossad knew that some Iranian military personnel were trying to feed disinformation using their phones. In fact, they had been for some time. So, Mossad was very careful about not consuming the bad intel or mixing it in with the good. Oh, brother. Spy versus spy story here. Yeah, but this makes me think this guy's a little more in tune than Baker, who I think is just a news reader. So now to convince you, or at least to convince me that this guy is definitely CIA, he comes up with with with his solution to the problem of correcting this this disastrous

Starting point is 00:51:49 report in part two. Unfortunately, the analysts at the Defense Intel Agency were not so careful nor professional. They wrote it up all as true, slapped on a low confidence assessment and off it went uncoordinated with other US Intel partners who might have been a little bit more professional. And that's when it leaked. While the Israelis continue to believe that last week in strikes have profoundly degraded Iran's nuclear program, they're still collecting Intel and have yet to create their own battle

Starting point is 00:52:18 damage assessment like the DIAs that was leaked. And that is because as one Israeli official explained to Axios News, quote, a professional battle damage assessment takes time, end quote. Well, that is true and that is apparently something lost on the Iran analysts at the DIA. Pivoting to a quick analysis and opinion here is what I would advise President Trump to do. First, the head of the DIA, he's got to go, he's got to be fired. It's a Lieutenant General Jeffrey Cruz. He might be a wonderful man, but look, the buck stops with him. Second, the heads of the analytical components involved in this report should be fired effective

Starting point is 00:52:54 immediately. Third, every single person who wrote, edited, or coordinated on this DIA product has got to be placed on unpaid leave effective immediately. The point all in is that we have got to freeze the DIA's Iran shop at least so that they don't do further damage to the Intel community or more importantly, our national security. So all that is true, but I got to tell you there's something else. Based on my time in the Intel community, there is something very rotten going on inside of the DIA.

Starting point is 00:53:23 This trash report did not get drafted, edited, and released by otherwise good people who were just trying to do the good thing. No. This report violated basic analytical tradecraft. It's the stuff that you would learn on day one as an analyst. They did the opposite. They just threw that stuff out. So that means that this report was not just some accident.

Starting point is 00:53:45 It was so bad, it was willful. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I liked it. Yeah, we got too many intelligence agencies. Oh, you're kidding.

Starting point is 00:53:57 No. Too much of that nonsense. Yeah, like what? 17 agencies are all fighting with each other and they all want the money, all the money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You saw that and that thing, you fire that guy.

Starting point is 00:54:07 I looked that guy up and he looks like a bonehead. He's a Biden appointee. Of course. In fact, he's one of the few people I've seen where you look him up in the Wiki page and it actually says under the picture of him, you know, they have the little rundown. It says under the picture of him, I've never seen this on anybody, any generals or anything else. It says under the picture, it says affiliation, Joe Biden. What is that supposed to mean?

Starting point is 00:54:33 It's a Wikipedia thing, man. I don't know. Well, it's all a mess. And I hate to say it, I always thought DIA was better. But they suck just as bad. They are responsible for so much bull crap. I think we both thought DIA was better, but it's obvious they're not. No. No. And I think Navy intelligence still stays away from them.

Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah, well that's Bannon though. There's your Navy intelligence. stays away from them. Yeah. Well, that's Bannon though. There's your Navy intelligence. Yeah. Well, there's that. Yeah. But there's also the Woodward Navy intelligence. Yeah. By the way, I got a note from, uh, sir Jake.

Starting point is 00:55:17 He says that, uh, the word is that Trump has forbid Hegseth from drinking while he's secretary of Defense. And that means that everybody's grumpy because there's no booze at all at any of the events. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. That could be why he's on edge. Yes. He's probably a guy who likes to take the edge off with a couple of belts at night.

Starting point is 00:55:37 Some bourbon, a little bourbon there. I can see him with a bourbon on the rocks, it would be on the tumbler. In the tumbler. And now he can't drink because he'll follow orders, he won't drink. And now he's grumpy. So that's what accounts for going after poor Jennifer. My favorite analyst on Fox, Jennifer. Now we have to always take into account that from the Iranians slash Persians who we know, the boots on the ground we get,

Starting point is 00:56:12 that there is always a very a lot of conviction in Iran that Iran and America work together and create nice theater for different reasons under different presidents. Iran is not like one big Muslim country. work together and create nice theater for different reasons under different presidents. Iran is not like one big Muslim country. I mean, they're an amalgam of all kinds of people. But anyway, here's... There's a number of ethnic groups within the country. For sure.

Starting point is 00:56:39 Here's Hegseth doubling down as now the Khomeini has come out and said, bah, you know, something. How destructive were the US airstrikes on Iran? Did they completely destroy the facilities and obliterate Iran's nuclear capabilities as the Trump administration continues to claim? Or did they only set it back a few months as a leaked report from the intelligence arm of the Pentagon asserts?

Starting point is 00:57:04 When asked about whether any of the Pentagon asserts when asked about whether any of the nuclear material was moved before the strikes, the U.S. Secretary of Defense lashed out. There's been a lot of discussion about what happened and what didn't happen. Step back for a second. Because of decisive military action, President Trump created the conditions to end the war, decimating, choose your word. Whoops, decimating, your word whoops decimating whoops whoops obliterating destroying Iran's

Starting point is 00:57:28 nuclear capabilities. Adding to the confusion, the director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe now says the strikes did destroy key sites, but stopped short of declaring that Iran's nuclear program was wiped out. Meanwhile, the Financial Times is reporting that preliminary intelligence assessments provided to European government indicate that Iran's stockpile of uranium was not concentrated at Fordow at the time of last week's attack but had already been moved to other locations. This comes as Tehran acknowledged its facilities sustained significant damage. However, in his first remarks since Iran's ceasefire with Israel, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei asserted that the United States had gained nothing.

Starting point is 00:58:12 They attacked our nuclear facilities, which would, of course, merit criminal prosecution in international courts, but they didn't achieve anything significant. The U.S. president exaggerated events in an unusual way and it turned out he needed this exaggeration. Everyone who heard these words understood there's another truth behind it. They could not achieve the objective they set for themselves. The only way to know for sure is with on-site inspection, but Tehran has just passed a law ending cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency. The Global Nuclear Watchdog says it's yet to receive any official notification on the matter.

Starting point is 00:58:51 By the way, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, did what I asked him to do. He gave us a 353 word report summary on if if president trump committed a war crime and also added to that a short rundown on the authorized use of military force And you have to know rob was a jag so He comes from the business And uh now of course not Of course, it was not a war crime under the geneva convention Of course, it was not a war crime under the Geneva Convention. But that's in the show notes under Iran if you want to go take a look at that.

Starting point is 00:59:28 Even 353 words a little bit too long to read on the show. I like the fact that Khomeini has become slightly a Baghdad Bob. Yeah, a little bit. But what's always jarring to me is he has that picture of himself in the background. No, that's the original guy. No, that's the original guy. Oh, that's the OG guy. I'm like, wow, he looked a lot better in the picture. Yeah, no, that's the, that's the Omani. Oh, that's the OG guy. Okay.

Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah. Wow. I'd say we can go back to business and we can go back and what are we fighting with Canada now? I think we're fighting with Canada. and we can go back and what are we fighting with Canada now? I think we're fighting with Canada. Yes. Well, I don't know what that's about. That's some sort of strange distraction. Yeah, play it.

Starting point is 01:00:12 Because there's no explanation for it. Carney never came out and said why he's doing it. Oh, no, I have him on you. Oh, yeah. You'll be surprised. Canada's digital services tax on foreign tech giants has sparked a fierce US backlash, with Donald Trump deciding to halt all trade talks with Ottawa. In a post on Truth Social, the US president called Canada's decision a direct and blatant attack on the US,

Starting point is 01:00:40 accusing it of copying the European countries' actions and warning of a new tariff response. Based on this egregious tax, we are hereby terminating all discussions on trade with Canada effective immediately. We will let Canada know the tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven-day period. I'm always so disappointed that I don't read the thank you for your attention to this matter line of the tweet, but okay.

Starting point is 01:01:10 Canada's digital services tax, which is set to take effect on Monday, is a new levy expected to cost the largest American tech giants billions of dollars. Companies like Amazon, Google, Uber and Airbnb offering digital services and earning over 20 million dollars in revenue from Canadian sources will be taxed 3% on the money they make from Canadian users and customers. The decision comes as Canada and the US were deep in negotiation to ease Trump's 25% tariffs on Canadian goods which within months had resulted in major economic dislocations, job losses and a drop in southbound exports.

Starting point is 01:01:51 But the two leaders who met at the G7 in Alberta last week agreed to solve the trade dispute within 30 days. The Canadian Prime Minister spoke to reporters assuring that despite Trump's recent decision, Canada would not back down. We'll continue to conduct these complex negotiations in the best interests of Canadians. It's negotiation. That's all that it is. Carney thinks he can play the Trump game.

Starting point is 01:02:17 Okay. That'll be fun to watch. Okay. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. He's like, oh yeah, I could do that. He pulls this stunt, I'll do the same thing. I can negotiate.

Starting point is 01:02:26 So at least he's trying. I'll give him that. You know, it's like, oh yeah, that's a boot negotiating. You know, this is what you do in negotiation. Queen Ursula, no, she's way, way outside of her lane. I briefed leaders on the current state of play in our trade talks with the United States. President Trump and I had a good discussion at the G7 Summit in Canada.

Starting point is 01:02:50 Back then we agreed to speed up the work with a clear goal, an agreement before the 9th of July. Today we received the latest U.S. document for further negotiations. We are assessing it as we speak right now. So our message today is clear. We are ready for a deal. At the same time, we are preparing for the possibility that no satisfactory agreement is reached. This is why we consulted on a rebalancing list and we will defend the European interest as needed. In short, all options remain on the table.

Starting point is 01:03:30 She is technocrat. This is not going to work. All options remain on the table. No, you got to do something like Carney did. You know, be a douche. That's not how it's not going to work. She's no good. No, she's no good. Meanwhile, it's like the Supreme Court of the United States just woke up and went, oh, you know, we should probably look at some of that stuff. Yeah, maybe nationwide injunctions aren't really something that should happen.

Starting point is 01:04:09 I think this is amazing. Republicans and Democrats have both complained about it. Of course they have. But they would have continued to do this had they not overdone it. Yes, yes, exactly. Well, here's the report. This is such a big day. The Supreme Court ruled federal district courts issuing nationwide injunctions likely exceeded the authority granted to them by Congress.

Starting point is 01:04:34 The issue was brought to the court in the case over President Trump's executive order, ending birthright citizenship and challenged the ability of one court to put a country wide hold on an executive order. It gives power back to people that should have it, including Congress, including the presidency. 94 districts and 35 out of the 40 opinions with nationwide injunctions came from five liberal districts in this country, no longer.

Starting point is 01:05:05 California is one of those five districts referenced. And during the Trump administration news conference, California attorney general Rob Bonta joined attorneys general from other states to call for a nationwide injunction. I'm hopeful that the court will see that a patchwork of state injunctions where birthright citizenship stands for some states, but not others would inevitably create administrative chaos, sparking

Starting point is 01:05:29 widespread confusion and spurring questions we don't have the answers to. California Governor Gavin Newsom issued this statement saying in part, while the executive order is still temporarily blocked from going into effect, the decision is deeply disappointing. Loyola law professor Jessica Levinson predicts how this plays out in the short term. The Trump administration is going to go back to federal district judges that issued these nationwide injunctions and say, you don't have the power to do this. You need to provide more limited relief. I think at the same time, those who have challenged the president's executive orders will very quickly try to refashion their suits so

Starting point is 01:06:12 that they are asking instead for something like relief under a class action status instead. Yeah, more lawfare. Class actions are probably, they're going to use that as the next thing but those are harder to do I have John Yoo Oh good old John Yoo who I think who summarizes better than anybody else and for good reason here he is with he's on Fox talking about the Supreme Court action today I have two clips let's start with nationwide injunctions by these district judges. Where are we on that after this ruling? They're dead, 100% dead. The

Starting point is 01:06:51 Supreme Court has said now definitively, district judges, of which there are about 700 around the country and every major city, they can decide the cases before them. They can give remedies like injunctions to the parties in the courtroom. But what they can't do is impose it against the government throughout the entire country at once. Really, that's the Supreme Court's job. And so what the court has said is, yes, it's going to be possible now for the birthright citizenship order to be struck down in Boston, but still upheld in Texas. That it might still be possible for people to get passports in Boston who might not get

Starting point is 01:07:29 them in Texas. But that's the job of the Supreme Court to resolve that conflict. It's not the job of any individual district trial judge to do. So this is a really big win for the presidency, not just Donald Trump, but the presidency. Because what the court has also respected here is that the president is elected by the American people to carry out an agenda and it's important and right for him to be able to pursue that throughout the country at once. And you're so right that this has been, you know, presidents from both parties

Starting point is 01:08:02 have always complained about this and President Trump finally did something about it. I think that's pretty cool for Merck. They had to because they were abusing it with him. Yeah well. And that's what that's what brought it to a head. This could have gone on forever if these guys hadn't gotten carried away. We had a good thing going guys. What did you do? They had a good thing going until they abused it. Now the thing about this is they also went after Judge Jackson. Oh, everyone hates her now. She's dumb.

Starting point is 01:08:30 She's dumb. She's dumb and they're really going after her in every way. I didn't clip it because it's five minutes long, but it's five minutes of her saying I don't understand. Yeah, we all saw the super cut. Every case for the last one year. And I don't understand this. I don't understand. She makes it sound stupid. But she is called out on this by, uh,

Starting point is 01:08:53 you? No, not by you, but it's, you was presented with, uh, with, uh, one of the comments that she made and the two of these two guys, uh, this robbers on Fox, Fox, they laugh about it. It's a pretty funny little bit. But I think that the fact that the court in the decision called out Jackson and then everyone signed off on it, this was a rebuke.

Starting point is 01:09:19 And people have to realize that's what it was. She was not following the principles of the way the court's supposed to act. And she was freelancing and I had got a letter from somebody, you guys are mean about this. You got one of those? I can't believe someone spelled your name right. That's amazing. It's like she went off the rails and started talking about it. I looked at her opinion, which was separate, and she was talking about this and that. She was being philosophical to an extreme, and it wasn't really following the way

Starting point is 01:09:59 they want things done, and so they rebuked her. I thought this was a funny clip. Amy Coney Barrett wrote the majority opinion. And I thought that this clause from it was really interesting. She wrote, quote, we will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. We observe only this.

Starting point is 01:10:22 Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary. Smack! Oh boy, I'm glad I'm not there right now. I'm sure they're going to be great friends afterwards, especially when they need each other for the fifth vote on one of their cases. But you know, Justice Jackson's dissent, I have to say, I thought was a little over the top. She's basically saying this is the collapse of the rule of law, you're going to have irresponsible presidents defying the rule of law, doing what they want, and the courts, no one's going to stop them. I don't think that's quite right. This is in the long run as a legal issue, not that important. It's important

Starting point is 01:11:03 as a political issue for the effect it has on the government, its ability to pursue law. But this is actually the judiciary restraining itself, saying we're only going to apply our powers to the cases before us. We're not here as the judiciary to run the whole government. And so who benefits from that? Presidents do, but presidents are democratically accountable and electable. The American people who are watching this show, listening to you, John, they should not think that the rule of law is collapsing all around them. It's not happening. Basically, things are going to function normally. This is just really a narrow legal issue about the power of individual trial judges.

Starting point is 01:11:38 The Supreme Court's always there, and they're going to decide these questions in the end. I thought that was a the end. Yeah. I thought that was a good summation. Yeah, it was good. But here's a, I have a little update from the troll room, just to give you an idea of what I get. Ready? Do you want to... Always.

Starting point is 01:11:57 Do you want a voice? Do you want a voice? Or should I just read it straight? It's never that funny when I read it straight. Yeah, you might as well do the voice. Smokin' Cheese is my name, Smokin' Cheese. Adam's love of Trump. He's going to backfire on him. I love how they think I love Trump. I love Trump.

Starting point is 01:12:16 Trump is waging war for the Zios while cutting taxes for the billionaire class and then printing money to pay for it and then taxing everyone else by inserting tariffs and stealing from social security and medicare while creating legal mechanisms to jail and deport us citizens. Wow dude. No US citizen has been jailed and deported. He's in the wrong troll room man. Yeah he's he's got, go over to Blue Sky, dude. It really did. I probably is the dude from Blue Sky. I have one, I go to Blue Sky once a month. I want to mention something which is something

Starting point is 01:12:53 that he said, that guy, is that I think Mom Davi, this New York guy, I think it's possible, the more I've been looking at this character, he has a bunch of interesting opinions that I think, and I think people are misjudging him. They keep calling him a socialist, a socialist. He calls himself a Democrat socialist and he's got socialist, communist ideas, but he's not a socialist. He is a populist. He is the Democrat version of Trump. Oh, but this is what they wanted. This is what's so beautiful about it. Yes.

Starting point is 01:13:30 Now, this is what they wanted. I agree with that for sure because that's what they keep talking about. So they got this guy. If he, and I think he will get in because I know what they're going to do with Eric Adams. They're going to say,, they're going to say, well, he's cooperating with ICE. He's cooperating with Trump. He's gone. And they hate Trump in New York. So this guy can get in. Yeah. And if he doesn't completely screw the pooch in New York, in other words, he manages to, you know,

Starting point is 01:14:00 do a balancing act and become a reasonably not a disaster mayor, that approach of his could become super popular. Interesting. Yeah, so this is all over the top, but he may actually be much more moderate and maybe the buses will be free. And the buses might be free and he has got this one thing in this craw that only comes up once in a while, but if you read into it enough, he doesn't think any billionaire should exist in the country.

Starting point is 01:14:33 That is an extremely populist idea that could, if I was one of those rich Democrats, you know, that are, most billionaires are Democrats, people. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, great. You better start finding ways to hide your money. It's just so beautiful because, and he may, that's a very good point. That's a very good point.

Starting point is 01:14:57 That could be the Democrat party's version of a populist who then dials it way back. But I don't know. I mean, to me, this is everything that the Democrat part, every talking point is this guy. Every talking point. And then they got this guy. And then Tina and I were at some Mexican place having lunch yesterday. And I love the Mexican restaurants. I got a million TV screens all on Fox. The TV screens, none of them are at the same height. There's something about Mexican culture,

Starting point is 01:15:30 I just, I notice it all the time. Straight, there's nothing is straight. There's always a little crooked. You ever notice that? Well, that's an interesting observation. When you go to Mexico, which I used to do a lot when I was younger, they'd have all these, I always notice these half-billed houses all the way down to Ensenada, all the way

Starting point is 01:15:52 to the tip. There's just these half-billed houses and I asked somebody, some Mexican guy, oh yeah. He says, yeah, you want it that way. You want your half-billed house because they don't start taxing it until it's done. So everything is like, you know, got a kind of a funny quality. So it's, and you're right. Yes, I noticed it's not,

Starting point is 01:16:10 they're not into like the long straight line. No, no, they don't, it's not their culture, which is fine. But I just love seeing three TV screens, big screens on the wall, and none of them at the same height. I'm like, I don't get it. It's like, anyway, and and you saw the Democrats going, oh, what are we going to do?

Starting point is 01:16:28 The rich Democrats of New York. Oh, what are we going to do? There's the guy who owns the supermarkets. He's on Fox Business. I'm closing down my supermarkets. I'm not going to the government run my supermarkets. Okay, bro. Sure. So it's just a fun fight.

Starting point is 01:16:43 Then, you know, Fredericksburg, oh, I'm never going to New York again. New York is lost. It's lost. New York's been lost forever. Although my neighbors, Claudia, she's a hospitalist. She takes care of all, she's really in charge of the patient. She's kind of the patient advocate. And so she was out walking her two little dogs, these things are like barking little things. And she's from Dominican Republic and she's with her boyfriend, he's ex-military

Starting point is 01:17:16 and her brother and a million kids. They're all walking the dogs on the street. He's like, we were in New York. And then all of a sudden we saw the bombs dropping and we were like, what are we gonna do? And they went into the hotel room and just stayed there. And like, we're so worried about everything. I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what happens to people. They get so freaked out because they're just watching Fox News or MSNBC. It doesn't really matter what you're watching. I'm glad we got back to Texas.

Starting point is 01:17:41 Call it TV. Yes, call it TV. Exactly. So then the Supreme Court made a very interesting ruling, which I, in principle, I agree with the ruling. I don't think it curtails the free speech of adults. But more importantly, I think it moves closer towards what I have always said is going to happen. And that will be the end of anonymity on the internet. The other big news here today, the United States Supreme Court has upheld a Texas law

Starting point is 01:18:11 that requires pornographic websites to conduct age verification of its users. This ruling is one of the final decisions of the term handed down by the nation's highest court earlier today. With that, let's bring in ION politics reporter Jack Fink. Talk about it a little bit, especially about the impact of this decision today and what else does this legislation do? Well, Doug, this two-year-old Texas law has been held up in the courts, but now because the U.S. Supreme Court has backed the state of Texas, it can go into effect. As you said, pornographic websites will now have to have some form of age verification

Starting point is 01:18:44 for its users or customers. To be considered pornographic, the sites have to have more than a third of their content as sexual in nature. The law allows the Texas Attorney General's office to enforce this ruling, investigate any potential violations and complaints, and assess fines as well. The author of this bill that became law, Republican state representative Matt Shaheen of Prosper, called it a triumph. This was a clear victory for Texas children. It was pornographic websites against our Texas families, and the Supreme Court sided with our Texas families,

Starting point is 01:19:17 so it's a great day for Texas in protecting our children from the smut. In a statement opposing the ruling, Alison Bowden, executive director of the Free Speech Coalition said, quote, the government should not have the right to demand that we sacrifice our privacy and security to use the internet. This law has failed to keep minors away from sexual content, yet continues to have a massive chilling effect on adults. This, of course, is completely ridiculous that is completely ridiculous that somehow people won't be able to get around a Texas block or whatever with a VPN like kids are stupid.

Starting point is 01:19:54 But it's really about identification for your, it'll be about you want to get on the internet, you're going to have to ID yourself everywhere you go. And I find the one third rule to be very interesting. I mean, that's so stupid. I mean, the first thing you do, say I had this, I want to run a porn site. So I want to have, I have to beat this one third rule. So I have a porn site. I load it up with terabytes full of PDF files that are just random about

Starting point is 01:20:26 the oceanography. And then if you click on this one link, you get my one, 20% of the rest of it is porn. And the oceanography stuff, 80%, it's not going to be using bandwidth or anything because nobody's going to go to that stuff. So the point, this is dumb. But it's not about that. And by the way... No, I know. You have this thesis. I have to say you have kept this thesis alive in yourself forever. Yeah, because it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It might, but it's not happening anytime soon.

Starting point is 01:21:02 Oh, please. Oh, ye of little faith. It's not happening anytime soon. Oh, please. Oh, ye of little faith. But I will say, and this is not the fix for it, but porn addiction is a real thing. There are so many young men and women completely, completely addicted to porn. Yeah, we've talked about this before. And it's a real problem. Then it ruins everything.

Starting point is 01:21:27 Ruins relationships. People get addicted to gambling, they get addicted to porn, addicted to smoking. Yes, yes, absolutely. People have problems. Yeah, people have. Now, I could only get 29-second report of this. It just kind of flew by. I couldn't even get the first Washington on there

Starting point is 01:21:46 Post journalist is facing some serious charges tonight 48 year old Thomas legros was arrested at his DC home Thursday He's accused of possessing child pornography FBI agents say they found explicit videos on his laptop and what looked like a broken hard drive in his basement Legros name also came up in an investigation involving online payments for illegal content. He is now on leave from the post where he oversaw video content. His detention hearing is set for Monday.

Starting point is 01:22:15 Yeah, they kind of missed the fact that he won a Pulitzer Prize. That's great, that's great. I would like to hear more about that, but before we leave this topic about what would happen with the Supreme Court. There's more from the Supreme Court. We have to visit Brooks and Capehart. Can I do one more Supreme Court ruling before we go to Brooks?

Starting point is 01:22:35 Oh yes, please. Because the Brooks and Capehart will top it all off. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Well, this is just factual. And, you know, it's so interesting that, you know, of course, all the ads like, oh, the Republicans, the big, beautiful bill, which has some stuff on to it. We can do it later. You know, they're going to cut Medicare, Medicaid. You're not, you're going to die. You want to have anything?

Starting point is 01:22:58 Well, this is one of the ways they're cutting. Tessa, the state first pulled Medicaid funding from Planned Parenthood in 2018 because it provided abortions. With this new ruling, states can now cut off Medicaid dollars to the provider, even for health care unrelated to ending a pregnancy. Justice Jackson, in her dissent. This is the lady from Planned Parenthood. If individuals don't have rights to sue to protect their own rights, then civil rights means nothing. And we would agree with that.

Starting point is 01:23:33 In response to the Supreme Court decision, Governor Henry McMaster sharing a statement on X saying, quote, seven years ago, we took a stand to protect the sanctity of life and defend South Carolina's authority and values. And today, we are finally victorious." Vicki Ringer, with Planned Parenthood South Atlantic, says only 3.5 percent of South Carolina patients are on Medicaid and the ruling won't impact services. The good news for patients in South Carolina is that nothing will change for them. We will continue to treat South Carolina patients who use Medicaid as their insurance plan.

Starting point is 01:24:13 We just won't bill them for it or bill Medicaid. They can continue to get their care for as long as we can cover it without charge, this one ruling and this one political decision from the governor or the legislature will not force us to close our doors. To clear up misconceptions, Ringer clarifies that according to federal law, Medicaid can only pay for an abortion in the case of rape, incest, or to preserve the mother's life. You know, the thing I don't... I mean, what is she bitching about if they're going to do it? They're going to cover it. Well, under those cases. Well, fine. This is about time some charity showed up in the formula here instead of everything

Starting point is 01:25:00 coming out of the taxpayers' pockets. When I was growing up, when I was a kid, it was like, don't be daft, don't be silly, put a snakeskin on your willy. When did we lose the idea of being careful? The funny thing is Planned Parenthood started. Yes, well they started as a eugenicist group. No, they didn't. Yes, they did. That evolved, that evolved. I've looked into this. I've looked into it too. I disagree with you. She started off as a promoter of cond No. There was 1930. Well, we can disagree on that and I will, but I'm not agreeing to disagreeing. There were over a million abortions in the US in 2024.

Starting point is 01:25:56 A million. There's too many. There's too many abortions. It's like that was the number one thing. When you were 15, your dad would say, here, here kid, here's a rubber. It's like, okay. You know, what happened? What happened there? Well, you don't need it when you have an abortion.

Starting point is 01:26:17 Same thing in Russia. It's cheaper. Especially if somebody else is paying for it. John C. DeVorek, the great defender of Margaret Sanger. I will not defend Margaret Sanger. I disagree with that. So let's play Brooks and Capehart. And I have three clips. I have the opener on PBS because they talk about this Supreme

Starting point is 01:26:40 Court stuff a little bit. And then, and then I have Brooks going on about porn in schools. Ah, yes Yeah, and then we have I have Brooks the last one is Brooks On any topic. Okay opener. I was open. Yeah opener Let's turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Kay part That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Kay part Associated for the Washington Post and we should say that you are both joining us tonight from the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado.

Starting point is 01:27:09 Your beautiful backgrounds make me wish I was there with you guys. It's great to see you. But let's jump right in to those Supreme Court decisions today. Big wins for the president, one on allowing religious parents to opt their kids out of LGBTQ learning and storybooks in school. The other severely limiting lower courts' ability to issue nationwide injunctions. We heard President Trump very happily thank the justices who ruled in his favor earlier today.

Starting point is 01:27:33 Take a listen. I want to thank Justice Barrett, who wrote the opinion brilliantly, as well as Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Thomas. Great people. They are now. Jonathan, kick us off here. What's your reaction to those rulings? What do you take away from that?

Starting point is 01:27:50 Well, on the injunction ruling, I reached out to a former senior official in a Democratic administration just to get their take on it. And the response back was mixed bag. And it's mixed bag because on the one hand, you know, Democratic presidents and Republican presidents never liked it when a lower court judge reached in and, you know, stopped them from doing something with a nationwide injunction. I'm thinking particularly of President Biden and say student loan debt forgiveness. Hold on. What?

Starting point is 01:28:24 It was the Supreme Court that put the K-bash on Biden who told him to pound sand. It's okay. We got that wrong. Yeah. You hate these guys so much. Well, you have your hate listens. Yeah, I do. I do. I got to bring them back. So now we're going to listen to to Kay part on the porn in schools. When it comes to the LGBT school ruling, you know, for that to come out the day after the 10th anniversary of the Obergefell ruling, which legalized same sex marriage, made it a constitutional right, is really, you know, it's painful. It's also speaks to the court's willingness to, you know, be a party to erasing a whole community. Oh, goodness. Let me just give you in short, because we have this going on here in Fredericksburg, with the public school here.

Starting point is 01:29:19 And, you know, it's become every single school board meeting. And by the way, I'm always saying, why are you wasting your time? Run for school board, get on the school board. You know what, if I lived in Fredericksburg, we live in unincorporated Fredericksburg, five minutes from Main Street for some reason, but I would run for school board, no problem.

Starting point is 01:29:41 The problem is every single one of those people on the school board has been threatened by the ACLU that they will be sued personally. That's what this is about. It's the ACLU. They're the problem. Those books, they're stupid. They really are lame. The porn books, they defend the books by saying you're erasing a community. It's bull crap. It's total bull crap. Well and here's what, and now I have a kind of a universal clip I can play any time this turns out to be a the answer. This is Brooks on anything. I Agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan

Starting point is 01:30:22 I know why don't you tell us what the format of the show is supposed to be, John? Well, typical of these shows, you're supposed to get perspective from two opposing viewpoints. That's the idea. That's what helps the audience take two opposing viewpoints on the same topic. And one of them says this and one of them says that. you as the as the viewer say well I can see what he means I can see this I can see that so you can understand it as opposed to two guys that vehemently vehemently agree with each other all the time who is supposed to be the Republican that's a brook supposed to be the Republican? That's Brooks. Brooks was supposed to be the Republican, but he's never been a Republican. He's always been a not a lefty, kind of a middle of the road Democrat.

Starting point is 01:31:12 And Capehart's just a gay liberal. All right. Let's go to the big beautiful. By the way, you're so right. I'm looking at the quad screen right now and it said, Eric Adams worked with ICE they were so right nailed it there it is Eric Adams worked with ICE he's no good we go to the big beautiful bill which coincidentally Elon Musk came out against again today that would set us back be horrible and I think Trump is putting everything on this because he wants those tax cuts. And I'm sure there's tons of nonsense in there.

Starting point is 01:31:52 Oh, there must be a ton. Tons of nonsense. Well, it's on the Senate floor. A rare Saturday session in the Senate. We have before us today a once in a generation opportunity to deliver legislation to create a safer, stronger, and more prosperous America. Senate Republicans are trying to pull a fast one on the American people. Lawmakers work through their holiday recess racing to meet a July 4th deadline to advance President

Starting point is 01:32:19 Trump's so-called big beautiful bill. The president stayed in town too, golfing with senators, urging them to tee it up. Overnight, Senate Republicans released the 900-plus page bill, which includes more funding for the president's top priorities, including border security, defense, and an extension of his 2017 tax cuts. But it comes with deep spending cuts to food assistance and Medicaid, including a projected $930 billion reduction, according to the Congressional Budget Office. What they're trying to do... She doesn't mention that's over 10 years, but that's kind of interesting, how they just throw that in there.

Starting point is 01:33:00 According to the Congressional Budget Office... What they're trying to do to cut back on these health care programs and health insurance for 16 million Americans to pay for tax breaks for wealthy people. Even some Republicans have threatened to oppose the package, citing concerns about the potential impact to rural hospitals. But others say it's time to act. Are we ready to put our pens down and move forward? The Medicare cuts are the ones that get me.

Starting point is 01:33:29 I've not read all 900 pages yet. I typically read whatever's passed when it's really passed, when we have one big, beautiful, solid bill, and then we'll go through it and we'll find all the funding for UFO projects and everything else. There's always some cool stuff hidden in there. And I enjoy it. But these cuts are really for people who are just sucking off the system. You know, it's like, no. And then illegals who are here and getting healthcare.

Starting point is 01:34:01 No, no, this is exactly what the president ran on. It sucks that we're nice people in America. We don't really want to really want to hurt anybody. Well, you do. You have to. There's your eggs analogy, but I may not have to read it because I guess Chuck Schumer is going to read it for me. To address some of those GOP concerns, The bill now includes a $25 billion rural hospital fund. It

Starting point is 01:34:26 also rolls back clean energy tax credits from the Biden era, angering Democrats. In fact, they hope to slow this vote down by demanding that the entire bill be read on the Senate floor, which could take up to 15 hours. Lovely. I love that. Especially because you get those one, replace paragraph five US law 17-329er with any time instead of all time. Yeah, lots of that. I'm looking forward to reading it. It'll be fun. I'm sure there's all kinds of good stuff in there.

Starting point is 01:35:02 Of course, the no tax on tips was a big promise from the president. Even my stepdaughter in New York, she's like, oh, I like this Trump because she works at a bar. And typically, people in service industry get paid very low wages. It was like $3 an hour. I don't know. Yeah, I think in New York, it's between is it like $3 an hour? I don't know. Yeah, I think in New York it's between two and $4 an hour

Starting point is 01:35:29 and then they end tips is where they make their money. And so here's Lawrence O'Donnell explaining what it's really about. Donald Trump told a story today about how he came up with the idea that he's very proud of, of no tax on tips. And remember, most American workers do not receive tips. So this is not a tax break for them. It is a tax break for people who Donald Trump likes better than the people who don't receive

Starting point is 01:36:00 tips. How does that work? The logic is this. I don't understand the logic. What gets better? receive tips. How does that work? The logic is this. I don't understand the logic. It gets better. Donald Trump said it happened in Las Vegas when someone he called a quote young beautiful waitress told him that she didn't want to pay taxes on her tips. She looked at me she said sir there should be no tax on tips

Starting point is 01:36:23 I said say it again there should be no tax on tips. I said, say it again. There should be no tax on tips. I said, that's the coolest thing I've ever heard. I walked outside, the press was there as always waiting for something bad to happen, hundreds of them. I said, ladies and gentlemen, please announce tonight there will be no tax on tips. There are many reasons why no Secretary of the treasury has ever advised a president to have no tax on tips. You just heard the stupidest story ever told by a president about tax policy. So Donald Trump thinks some income should be protected from taxation and some shouldn't.

Starting point is 01:37:06 So a Las Vegas lap dancer's income should be tax free, but a Las Vegas public school teacher must pay full taxes on all income. Straight from Recita, here she is, Raven. Give it up. I love how he did Raven. Give it up. I love how he did that. That was good. That was good, Larry. Wow. Hey, guy. How did you... Does that guy still have a job? Yes, and I'm sure he makes more than we do. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Tons more. Tons more. All right. Well... I have a little side clip, a little clip just to say it was entertaining. Yeah, sure. Your buddy. Oh, here we go. Is that Scott Galloway?

Starting point is 01:37:53 No, I you know, I have trouble clipping that guy. He's so slow talking and... Well, he talks, it's not like this. And he talks through his teeth. Through his slit. Talking and wait talk to the sounds like this So we're slit and he is he is It's hard to watch him. He's always likes to be on video and he just so Mug someone can mug someone convinced them that they should do a video. You know, it's like oh without video is really nothing You really have to have video your podcast is no good without video. Let me see how many people watch that stupid podcast

Starting point is 01:38:28 on YouTube. Although, stupid, I love the podcast, I have to say. Yes, yeah, you love Hate It. Oh, yeah, it's great. It's a great podcast. So Kennedy. Oh, that's my buddy. Who almost killed you.

Starting point is 01:38:43 I tell that story to people. She broke my butt. Should I tell the story to people. She broke my butt. Should I tell the story? I should probably tell the story? Yeah, you might as well re-re-reframe the story because we have not heard it for probably five years. MTV Beach House, first year. Great idea.

Starting point is 01:38:58 We all go out to, um, Quag, which is, you got the Hamptons and then you got all the poor people. They live in Quags beyond the Hamptons and then you got all the poor people. They live in quark is beyond the Hamptons. Big house on the beach. It was an experiment worked out really well. It later became a reality show when everybody realized that all that happened in MTV beach house was just a lot of drinking and screwing around. So all the VJs would be out there for the summers.

Starting point is 01:39:22 Real pain in the butt. You'd drive three and a half hours from the city to get there. And, you know, so we did all the typical beach house things and then we're on wave runners. These days known as jet skis, which they're not. They're wave runners. So I'm doing my segment. But I'm, you know, but I'm sitting on the wave runner

Starting point is 01:39:41 and the camera guy's on the other wave runner and he's, you know, I'm doing my segment my segment and all of a sudden Kennedy rams into me with her wit wave runner thinking she was funny and so I by go flying off the wave runner and hit my Left buttock right on the edge of the the wave runner and to this day. There's still a crease in my butt and It was black and blue for months and she never really said sorry which I've always wanted to talk to her about and I almost got on her podcast but then they canceled on me. Oh that's too bad. Yeah. Well her podcast isn't that good. I of course have forgiven her since then but

Starting point is 01:40:21 it'd be fun to talk about it. I, of course, have forgiven her since then, but it'd be fun to talk about it. Well, she's quite lively on Gutfeld. And I got butt slammed. That's right, trolls. I literally got butt slammed by Kennedy. There you go. So she was on Stelter or had Stelter on her podcast. No, no, she has an anecdote that I thought was amusing.

Starting point is 01:40:42 It's more of a real news story. If you get that clip up real quick, because this is a real news story. It's a little gossip And I have to give Brian Stelter any credit for anything because he really is a giant human potato I was obsessed with Emily Campagno really creepy and unsettling. Really? I did not know that. I did say spill the tea. Like in front of his wife, he's like,

Starting point is 01:41:10 Emily, I'm your biggest fan. And I was like, get away from her. Like, you are literally two inches and a half a glass of Chardonnay away from pumping her leg. Wow. Please stop right now. You never get to hear these stories on your shows, Kilmeade. Right, no.

Starting point is 01:41:26 Oh, brother. Pfft. Wow, my story was better than that. Yeah, but I, you know, it was better actually, but it was kind of lascivious. I like the lasciviousness of Stelter fawning all over this. Emily Campania, who she's referring to,

Starting point is 01:41:44 is the ex-raider, head cheerleader turned lawyer, turned enthusiastic host, you know, she's on various Fox shows. Really cute. And she turned beat rad, kind of, even though she's very... Oh, she was right there when the story was... Yeah, she was pointing at her. And she's, and she never said, yeah, I guess this is a true story. Cause she didn't deny it.

Starting point is 01:42:12 Emily Campagno. Wikipedia doesn't even have a picture of her. What's wrong with you, Wikipedia? Just look at images. There's a thousand pictures of Emily Campagno. Oh yeah. If you can find the ones when she was at the cheerleader at the Raiders, she was blonde. Huh.

Starting point is 01:42:30 Let me see. Cheerleader for the Raiders. Yeah, head cheerleader. Not just, she's one of those. That has to be a nightmare. No, because she's so high energy. It's like, come on, let's go horse riding. Let's go for dancing. You get out of the house, sit up. What are you doing sitting?

Starting point is 01:42:54 You know, grab a hula hoop. Do something. Horrible. I wouldn't mind hearing about you seem to have a series on pride flags, which the fact that you put a series together means something in here is good. And I don't want it to wait until after we take a break because you know. All right, I can do it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:43:16 This is PBS has been doing. Oh, okay. It's still pride month. It's still pride month. It's the 29th, so it's still pride month. Well, so there's this big controversy. They're trying to push pride flags all over the place, you know, it's like which is really skeptical. I feel I don't have mixed feelings about it. I just don't think it's a good idea. To have your state flag, your American flag and then a pride flag, it's a sexual thing.

Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah. So what are you putting that up there for? But okay, there's a, so PBS is all behind it too. Oh God, yes, let's, let's do a promotion. They're basically promoting using the pride flag. Now, most of these clips are fairly short, but they're a little long, but they all have kind of a punchline. So it makes it worthwhile. Listen, start with one. This year marks a decade since same-sex marriage was legalized nationwide.

Starting point is 01:44:07 But in several Republican-led states, efforts are underway to ban pride flags from public schools and government buildings, sparking a wave of local resistance. Dima Zane has the story. In Salt Lake City, a historic flag raising. You are welcome here, because in Salt Lake City, a historic flag raising. You are welcome here because in Salt Lake City, you belong. The city adopted a new official flag called the Sego Belonging Flag, featuring LGBTQ colors

Starting point is 01:44:35 underneath the city's Sego flower. What we're doing today is about the dignity and the worth of every single person in this community. No matter who they are, no matter who they love. The move coming just hours before a new law took effect in Utah, banning public schools and government buildings in the state from displaying any flags that aren't officially approved. Utah was the first state in the nation to ban pride flags from public buildings, but

Starting point is 01:45:02 not the last. Idaho and Montana have adopted similar bans in recent weeks, and at least eight other states with Republican controlled legislatures are considering the idea. Number two. Orion Rumler covers LGBTQ issues in politics for the 19th news. Hey, hey, hey, how can we can't get a gig like that? Cover LGBTQ issues for the news?

Starting point is 01:45:25 This is a great gig. It was a permanent gig for sure. In politics for the 19th news. Republican lawmakers have framed these bans as a necessary way to make state houses and government buildings and schools, depending on the language of the band, neutral places. But some cities are pushing back, like in Boise, Idaho,

Starting point is 01:45:51 where a pride flag has flown for several years outside City Hall. Yeah. I agree. So does the pride flag outside of City Hall in Boise mean that the City Hall is gay? The pride flag is about gay, right? Well, no, it's multiple things. It's LGBTQ+, disability pride. Yes, it was mostly gay. I'd say mostly trans at this point is what it represents.

Starting point is 01:46:20 Well, now it's mostly trans, but that's the slowly, that's yeah. What happened to the pink triangle? That was kind of cool. Well, I don't know, but these guys seem to be, they seem to be all jacked up about pride, having the pride, you know, some workers flags or a communist flag or what is the point? It just bothers me and, but I'm just being a boomer here. Yes. So I can get away with it. So let's play a part. Don't worry. You can get away with it so I can get away with it so let's play a part don't worry you can get away with it I'll get blamed for it it's all yeah you should be

Starting point is 01:46:49 billy for it. Let me do this. In fact you invited it. Give a motion a second. Last month the city council voted 5 to 1 to designated as an official city flag which they say will allow them to continue to fly it and not violate the new state law. Removing the flag now after years of flying it proudly would not be a neutral act. Boise Mayor Laura McLean arguing.

Starting point is 01:47:13 We know that that's not just a flag. We know it says who we are. It says who we are. That's what I've just said. The Boise, Boise is gay. That's what I just said. The boysie is gay. That's what she said. I want a Tourette's flag. What would the Tourette's flag look like?

Starting point is 01:47:32 It'd be kind of jiggly. Jiggly. It has its own flagpole that just jitters the whole time. Now it gets screwy. We have, oh, I see. I have two threes. I think the first three is the one we want. All right, first three.

Starting point is 01:47:48 Just two blocks away sits the Idaho State Capitol, where the legislature voted overwhelmingly to pass HB96, a bill that bans, quote, governmental entities from displaying any flags other than the US flag, state and local flags, the POW flag, or those from military branches and native tribes. Schools may also display their own banners. Idaho's Republican attorney general warns Boise's mayor to take down the flag or face penalties when the state legislature

Starting point is 01:48:16 comes back in session. It's going to cost the community and the city money for violating the law. And she doesn't pay it out of her pocket, it's going to cost the citizens of Boise, and I think that's shameful. In neighboring Montana sits the city of Missoula. Earlier this month, city leaders voted to adopt the Pride Flag as its only official city flag.

Starting point is 01:48:38 Despite a new Montana state law that prohibits flags on state property that, quote, represent a political viewpoint, including, but not limited to flags or banners regarding a political party, race, sexual orientation, gender, or political ideology. The Republican governor of Montana, Greg Gianforte called the move divisive posting that Missoula city council should be ashamed for imposing a pride flag on schools and dividing their community. This is more than, you know, blue dots rebuking the culture war policies of their

Starting point is 01:49:10 Republican controlled legislatures. Choosing to fly those flags as official city flags sends a message that this city wants to stand apart from the rest of the state as, you know, a beacon of inclusivity. A challenge that for now hangs in the air. Yeah, I'm kind of regretting this now. Well you shouldn't because here comes number three, WTF. Alright, here we go. And now we are joined by Salt Lake City Mayor Aaron Mendenhall.

Starting point is 01:49:40 Thank you so much for joining us. I want to jump in first and ask your reaction. When you heard about Utah's legislation bill banning all non official flags at schools and governmental buildings. Well it didn't make a lot of sense as a urgent topic for a legislature to address and yet they chose to do so and we worked really hard to figure out how we could both abide by that law and continue to represent the values of Salt Lake City. You adopted three other flags, amending them as official city flags, allowing you to fly them. Can you dig in a little deeper here and talk about what these flags symbolize to you and

Starting point is 01:50:17 to your community? Oh, here we go. They symbolize the values that have been here in Salt Lake City for generations. Diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. They do not exclude. These are flags of inclusion. We've raised two of them in the month of June with the Juneteenth flag raising and pride.

Starting point is 01:50:38 And we've heard from hundreds, even thousands of community members who've said, I see myself being represented in these flags. I feel seen and valued and wanted and understood. And that's what these flags are about. Oh man. I feel valued because of the flag and understood because there's a flag hanging outside the city hall. There's a flag. that means I feel understood. What is going on here? What the hell is that? You sound like the F-35 guy.

Starting point is 01:51:14 Yeah, well here we go. This gets worse. Here's five. Oh brother. Utah Governor Spencer Cox didn't sign the bill, but he also did not veto it, which allowed the law to go into effect. He was asked about Salt Lake City's pride flags. And here's what he had to say. I'm sure they feel great that they got around this dumb law and they did it with dumb flags. And it's just the whole thing's dumb.

Starting point is 01:51:38 What do you think should be done? I already said what I thought should be done. We should raise the American flag and let's unify around that. They are dumb flags and it was a dumb bill. What's your response to the governor? It's fine if he wants to say that about the decision that I made to bring these flags forward for approval with our city council. That's my role as the mayor. I take that responsibility. But I don't think it's the right way to address community members who feel validated, seen, heard, and wanted in their community because they see these flags

Starting point is 01:52:13 flying. Have you felt or have you had a sense, a bigger sense of the state seeking more control over your city's ability to function? Yeah. If there's no flag, you don't feel wanted by the city or something, what are we talking about here? I said, what on the well of this? By the way, this mayor, this nutball mayor from Salt Lake City, and this is a Mormon

Starting point is 01:52:42 state which cracks me up, by the way. I just find it highly amusing that this is taking place in Utah, but especially in Salt Lake City of all places. I don't know if you've ever been there, but it's. Yes, I have. I've been. I've hung out with the, with the Mormons. Yeah. Well, if you go to Salt Lake City, you're going to hang out with Mormons. They are the ultimate OG preppers. I'll tell you that. And so, so she goes on forever and I just have this last piece of what she

Starting point is 01:53:09 continues to yammer and yammer about inclusivity and oh you feel wanted you have to have the flag or else. I think that's a pretty consistent dynamic especially in a blue dot capital city in a red state with a super majority Republican legislature. That's not a new experience for us, but it's something that we're constantly navigating. My administration has a pretty good relationship with state leaders. We talk to each other, even when we disagree, and I think we're going to be able to keep talking through this. I don't think this is the end of what we'll see from the legislature regarding the flags, but neither is at the end of our ability to represent our values and we'll keep finding ways to do so. Well, there's a controversy brewing around the

Starting point is 01:53:56 Pride flag in Fredericksburg that I should probably mention. Are they flying it at City Hall? Oh, no, no. So we have a coffee place on Main Street called Java Ranch. And Java Ranch, it's kind of old school. It's like Cowboy Interior. And it's just a coffee place. And you got the kids working there. They're in their 20s. I play chess there on Mondays. It's a nice little hangout.

Starting point is 01:54:27 Wait, wait, stop. Stop the presses. Yes. You wait, on Mondays, which is, I consider the no agenda day off. Yes. You go to the cowboy coffee shop, the Java Hut or whatever it's called.

Starting point is 01:54:43 The Java ranch. Java ranch and play chess. With Willie. Yes. Do you have a, is it the chess where you have the timer? Well, we have had competitions and it's Willie's first invitational. And so, yeah, Willie kind of, we started playing chess. No one was playing chess.

Starting point is 01:55:06 Who's Willie? Oh, Willie's a guy. Willie's a guy I met in our church and he is messed up. Willie's like, that's Willie. You know, he got the arms out there pretty much like Trump, like Trump's impression of that journalist. That's Willie. Because Willie had a head on collision when he was 19.

Starting point is 01:55:27 Is he any good at chess? He's very good at chess. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, because I said, hey, say, Willie, once I heard this, I was like, what's wrong with him? Is he retarded? What's going on with you? Because I sat next to him one time. And he explained to me, he showed me a picture on his, he only can use one hand, and he showed the picture of the wreck. I mean, the guy was next to him got killed in the accident.

Starting point is 01:55:51 Then he had a couple of strokes. So Willy's had a tough go of it. And I said, well, we should meet for coffee. He said, yeah, Java Ranch. So we meet at Java Ranch and he has a chess set with him. And the guy turns out to be like a kind of a good chess player. So that's how chess came about. So anyway, you asked.

Starting point is 01:56:07 Yeah, I did. I'm sorry I did. Yeah, you should be. So a new place opened up called Cafe House. K-A-F-F-E-E. Cafe House. Yeah. Yeah, Cafe House.

Starting point is 01:56:18 And I immediately didn't like it. Was it next to this place? No, it's around the corner and it's very modern and it's very nice. And, you know, and so it's not rough and tumble like the Javahut. No, it's douchey.

Starting point is 01:56:33 It's douchey. Bougey. Bougey. It's a coffee house. It's also never goes to coffee house. But I won't get I won't go to coffee house because I'm a Java wrench guy. I'm loyal. Like I still go to the same hair girl'm a Java Ranch guy. I'm loyal.

Starting point is 01:56:45 Like I still go to the same hair girl in Austin for 15 years. I'm loyal. And so the ladies do their Bible study there. Half the church is there. Probably another reason. At coffee house. At coffee house. Now here's the controversy.

Starting point is 01:57:00 Recently, some of the kids who work there, young people, at coffee house, put a little Jesus on the counter wrapped in a pride flag. Jesus in a pride flag. I would consider that sacrilegious. Yes, of course. And now they're all trying to figure out what to do about it. Oh, what to do about it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:57:24 And I'm like, here's an idea it yeah and I'm like here's an idea ask them to take the pride flag off well we did and they said no well then you should no longer go there you should come back to Java Ranch. They said no. I have an idea take the pride flag off. No. Why don't you just remove the Jesus and the pride flag? That would be fine too. They can have a pride flag. I don't you just remove the Jesus and the pride flag? That would be fine too. They can have a pride flag. I don't think anyone cares if they have a pride flag in there, but the pride flag on the Jesus is a bit of a problem.

Starting point is 01:57:52 It's sacrilegious, yeah. Yes, and I'm like, well, why do you keep going there then? Don't go there. Yeah, but we like coffee house. Oh, okay. They just don't like the rough and tumble nature of the Java joint. Java ranch, man. The trolls say fire bomb the house.

Starting point is 01:58:12 Fire bomb it. Now you're talking. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the cheerleaders for the raiders. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the the one the only mr. John C. DeVore boots on the ground feet there subs in the water and all the games by the way I'm going to suggest that let Let's firebomb the house. That's a great idea.

Starting point is 01:58:47 Hey, 2,319 trolls checking and listening to the live stream. Well, that's good for a Sunday. So that's about a... What's the number? 2319. So it's about 100 up. 100 up, baby. 100 low.

Starting point is 01:58:58 No, it's usually 22. It's 22. 18 on Thursdays, 22. Isn't it 22? Yeah. You have the posted notes somewhere. Check it out. It's 22, 18 on Thursdays, 22, isn't it 22? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:59:07 You have the posted notes somewhere, check it out. Hold on a second. Oh, but see, there you go. That's already there. They're messing with me. There we go. You're back. I said, I think 22 is the norm.

Starting point is 01:59:21 Isn't 22 the norm? No, 25 is the norm. Twenty-five now. Twenty-four lately. It's never been. Last week we had 26. I think 22 is the norm. Isn't 22 the norm? No, 25 is the norm. 25 now? 24 lately. Last week we had 26. No, we're down. We're down 300. Trump needs to do something about that.

Starting point is 01:59:35 It's Trump's fault. He's got to bomb somebody, man. Come on. Come on, baby. Yes, the trolls are listening to us at trollroom.io. You might be right, by the way. Well, of course I'm right. We had big numbers the last couple of shows because of the bombing. Yeah, now people like... A bloodthirsty country.

Starting point is 01:59:52 Those boomers, those boomers with their Jew money. We don't get any Jew money. I think we got one donation from... We got one Jew thanking us. One lone Jew. One lone Jew. One lone Jew said, hey, thanks for saying that. We defend them to such an extreme. We are equal opportunity offenders, believe me.

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Starting point is 02:01:10 bottom line is we give you everything. Unlike people who home and the ads on these podcasts. Oh, do you do you ever really listen to any podcasts at length? Yeah, I do. I view this Mike Baker, I listen to the right guy. Did they not have ads? Didn't they have ads? Yeah. Isn't it annoying? Yeah. And it's, and it's the, the ad load, as we say in the business, the ad load has just become outrageous. It's like every 10 minutes. And here's what bothers me. These are all, I don't know what it is. It started, maybe Leo Laporte had something to do with it. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 02:01:52 But it all started off with, they have to be host red ads. Oh, that's where the money is. You get $40 CPM, i.e. $40 for every 1,000 downloads. I don't see it. I think a professionally done ad, I've always felt this way, that a professionally done ad in-house by an ad agency that just sells the product and does a great job of it. What if you had nothing but host read? That's what used to be television discovered this.

Starting point is 02:02:19 In the early days of television, in the 50s, especially the 50s, they had all these like you, what's my line with you? Cause they still show these shows now on some of these over the air, you know, sub channels. And it's like, what's my line brought to you by Paul mall and Paul malls, the great cigarette for Rob a blind. Oh Jim, what do you have with there? I got some Paul mall cigarettes. It was all host read ads. And then somebody decided, hey, these guys stink. Why don't we do a real professional ad and bring in a cowboy and do some other

Starting point is 02:02:51 stuff, we can probably do a better job of selling. And then they, then the host-read ads on TV, even early days of Johnny Carson, they used to do them. They all ended. But I'll tell you why that is. Would you like to know why that is? I'd like to know. Because the host red ad has more value because you know that the people who actually...

Starting point is 02:03:13 So remember the metric in podcasts is downloads, which is a scam because these apps all automatically download and you're probably not listening to half of the podcast in your podcast app. Right. So it's a scam. That's why, you know, they just regular ad pre-rolls, mid-rolls and post-rolls, you know, no one's listening and you skip them. So the idea is that when the host reads it, there's a more likelihood that people will listen to that ad because it's the host and the recall of these ads that are

Starting point is 02:03:48 host read are is higher. Now does that says who says the IAB, the interactive agency agency? Well, the IAB needs to figure it out. IAB needs to figure a lot of stuff out. So what has happened is you've got the $40 CPM ad reads and then you have the DAI. Oh, it's a DIA. Oh, DAI, dynamic ad insertion. Which means here in Fredericksburg,

Starting point is 02:04:18 if I start up a podcast that is DAI, I get a Spanish ad because they know me so well. You know, achoo, watch out, watch out. Okay, great. I don't know what you're advertising me. So it's it just doesn't work. But some people think it works because I saw our spreadsheet for today and seems like some people are like,

Starting point is 02:04:37 oh, I can get these guys to read my ad. So we'll see about that. Anyway, no, we don't do that. We just thank everybody who supports us financially and we do that for everybody $50 and above and it seems to work out okay most times. It's an exciting lifestyle, but we chose it and we're okay. Exciting lifestyle. The exciting lifestyle.

Starting point is 02:05:04 It's the new international lifestyle, value for value. Didn't you. It's the new international lifestyle, value for value. Didn't you know that's the new international lifestyle? I think we're going to have to put a word limit on these... Ads? On these notes. I don't care whether it's an ad or not. There's two on here that are just, they're no good. Yeah, well, what's your limit?

Starting point is 02:05:24 I have to, okay, well, what's your limit? I have to. OK, well, I can do I can make the calculation. I'll come up with an answer for the next show. I mean, it should really because you know, when you when you give it a limit, everybody's going to fit it into that limit. I just find with me, if the only thing is the limits, not like it is with the I mean, we've not got a thousand words, you know, the we had essays here. We got, you know, Tosdowski hasn't written as much

Starting point is 02:05:47 as a couple of these guys. Another obscure reference from Curry and Dvorak, everybody. Not that obscure. We also accept value in the form of time and talent. There's a lot of that, our boots on the ground reports. We have lawyers on staff people I'm telling you. We got lawyer producers doing stuff. We do. Who care for us, who care for the show, want to make the show better, want to help us, want to inform us. And then we have artists. Well, we used to have artists. Now

Starting point is 02:06:18 we just have AI prompt jockeys. We have single... I mean, I'm just gonna allow AI songs for the end of show mix now because you're right, you're right. I like the way you have to cave, you, okay, I'm not gonna criticize you for this. You can. Because that's not really a criticism. You cave, maybe the word cave is not the right word, but you cave to the pressures that are coming in from every which way. You, you cave to modernity as things change and improve and progress. You cave to it after resisting as much as you can. So that brings me to the question, why you resist at all?

Starting point is 02:07:01 Resist we much and we must this be forgotten. Well I resist because I liked our artists. We had Dutch masters. They're all gone. Every single one of them. All that you're right. The Dutch masters have all left. They've all abandoned us.

Starting point is 02:07:17 And sadly, sadly, a lot of this AI art is just better. It doesn't mean that I... I mean, the execution is better. He's admitting it. What? I think you're right. Yeah, I mean, but now it's just all AI art, which is just too bad, you know, from time to time.

Starting point is 02:07:36 You know, once in a while someone will come in. I mean, we got a long note from Riley. Oh, you mean the deserture? Deserture? You mean the desertor? Desertor? You mean the desertor is the guy who eats desserts. He makes desserts. He's busy. He's busy. He's busy. He's got a lot of work.

Starting point is 02:07:56 He's an accountant basically and he just could, he's apologizing. He's counting his money. He's counting his money. Yes, he needs money. He listens to the show and he you know But you know what the stuff that Riley does it's basically been jacked by AI everybody can do Riley stuff now If you think about the crew now with the crude Basic crude style. No, that's true

Starting point is 02:08:21 All right. All right. So blue acorn was the artwork that we chose for the previous episode. Yeah, I caved on this one pretty quickly. No, you didn't. I did because you're like, I like the boobs. This is great. That's a great piece of art. And I was so tired of fighting you on this stuff. No, here's the way it went.

Starting point is 02:08:40 I'm going to tell everyone how it really went. You speak with forked tongue. I said, I like this piece. I think this is a really good piece of cheesecake. And you said, oh, we just did cheesecake two shows ago. And I said, yeah, we just- That's the voice I used? That's the voice I used? Yeah. Okay. And so I said, yeah, we did, but this piece is really, well,

Starting point is 02:09:05 I liked the 1776 and we got to have that into the art. And then you have some other suggestions. Okay. Well, let's do something else. And he said, no, no, no, we're doing this. And I'm, and it's your fault. You chose it. I'm picking it. You chose it. It's on you. It's on you. It's on you. You made a big fuss. And here I am saying it's on you. Thank you. That's exactly how it went. You said, I'm quitting the show if we don't choose this art. I've never said that. That's a lie. That is a blatant lie.

Starting point is 02:09:37 Oh man. Well, but looking back on it, I think it was a good decision. It was a good piece. It was a good piece. It was a good piece. Yeah. For 1776, it said America. For a couple of reasons, it was a good piece. It was a good piece. It was a good piece. It was a good piece, yeah. For 1776, it said America. For a couple of reasons it was a good piece. Well first of all, it just said America. That's what, that's how I remember America. That's right. That's what it did. It said America right there, right up front. The, let me see, was there anything else that we discussed? I don't think so. But everything is AI art, everything. Which means eventually it'll just be muck. But I think you've complained so much

Starting point is 02:10:14 about the end of show mixes and not without merit, not without merit, but it's hard to do. And people get discouraged and then you hear some toe tap and diddy made by AI and I play, like that's great and arguably it was good. So it was good. Maybe it's just, you know, but here's the thing with AI songs, everyone like this is a great song and it's just, you know, they got some Curry and Dvorak lyrics in there, 33, you know, value for value. And it's always three minutes long.

Starting point is 02:10:45 No, end of show mixes. Cut it down. A minute. Make it a minute. I'll give them one ten. One ten, one ten. And it's not, you know, it has to be a good song. It's not about just the lyrics.

Starting point is 02:10:59 Anybody can throw in some no agenda lyrics into, into AI and say, make me a song. Like, wow, this is great. No, it's not. So if you send me a truth. I think now you've just done it. You've got the AI song challenge, which will lead right into the awards. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:11:17 Okay. You know, we, uh, we have a best of coming Best Of coming up at the end of July, just so you know, you get a day off a Thursday. And because I'm working on my exit strategy, we got to take some time off for that. And the literal Best Of show done by circumference is our exit strategies. It's a three hour show. It's a three hour show.

Starting point is 02:11:49 I wonder if he has the sequined underwear that you remember that back in the day. I don't remember that one. Yeah, the HEMA underwear. You don't remember the HEMA underwear? Oh, yeah, HEMA, sure. It was going to be embroidered. I don't remember that part. It could be. It was going to be embroidered. I don't remember that part. It could be. Anyway, Blue Acorn, thank you very much. You kind of nailed it.

Starting point is 02:12:10 It also had the luminance. It had brightness. It had a kind of... It was still a little wishy-washy. But yeah, when I think back to 1976, and I was in America for the centennial, the bicentennial, I'm sorry. You were for the centennial, I was there for the bicentennial. And that's pretty much what it was. 1976, that's exactly what America was like back then. So for me, it was somewhat nostalgic, but it was you who pressed on it and I just gave in. So then we'd like to thank our executive and

Starting point is 02:12:49 associate executive producers, some of it taking a little bit to the max here, we'll have to edit on the fly because everyone thinks well it's like this is my turn, this is me, that they certainly have the right. Now you're stealing from everybody else. You're stealing time and attention. But of course the right. Now you're stealing from everybody else. You're stealing time and attention. But of course, yeah, there you go. I think you're, yeah, it's theft. Stop it people. It's just, you know, if you had more time, you could write a shorter note.

Starting point is 02:13:16 That's just the fact. So take your time and condense these things, but you know what? Take your note, put it in a chat GPT and say, make this 200, no, make this, what was the old Twitter length? 120, 140? 144 characters. Yeah, there you go. That's it.

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Starting point is 02:14:30 Sir Sonderager from St. Joseph, Missouri, 1776, and throws in 67 cents for good measure and says, good morning, fellas. It's been minutes since my last donation. Here's some treasure to make up for the dry spell and get me that PhD yes the PhD in media deconstruction was still ongoing until July 4th so getting quick keep up the good work. No no no it's not being canceled on July 4th. That's what you told me. No I said what's being canceled on July 4th is the 76th donation. Oh, okay. Got it. No jingles. We're gonna cancel the PhD promotion at the drop of a hat.

Starting point is 02:15:16 Wow. Threatening. No jingles. But I'd like my deducing since I didn't get it on my first donation. You've been deduced. And that's Sir Sonder Egger of Bluffwoods. Bluffwoods. Bluffwoods. Well, that takes us to Don. Dan. Oh, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 02:15:39 I'm already screwing it up. Dan Mador? Medor? Yeah, Medor. In Peoria, Arizona. Peoria, Arizona. And it's a long note, but it's on the spreadsheet. At least it made it on. This has been a long time coming. I've been listening to the show since the late 800s, back in the middle ages. That's right. After having been hit in the mouth by my good friend Ken, please give me an atomic de-douching.

Starting point is 02:16:08 What's an atomic de-douching? Does that exist? It's just louder. No, you know, sometimes you gotta look at this. No, there's no atomic de-douching. You've been de-douched. Okay. This is for his long time douchebaggery.

Starting point is 02:16:22 I like instant gratification. So after listening to over 900 shows, I decided to become an Insta Knight with my donation. Please accept 333.33 as my late fee. Oh, that's cute. That's good. I'm first and foremost a proud American. I'm also a French Acadian ancestry. I'd like to be known as Sir Cadian. OhC-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C- years. I wonder if he's a musician. Yeah. I lost my wife to stomach cancer just before our 33rd wedding anniversary and

Starting point is 02:17:11 only and my own lymphoma diagnosis was discovered just after her passing is now in remission. Good. So for jingles I'd like a double F cancer and because it's always a put smile on my face. Can you play give it up for Raven, which we also played. Making a comeback. Thank you again. And although I selfishly do not want you to find an exit strategy, I'm hoping we have a whole bunch of ideas. I'm hopeful you will go at least four more years also for the roundtable I welcome the mead as a libation, but would pair it with mutton infused poutine

Starting point is 02:17:53 Which in other words he'd make poutine with mutton russ chow which seems like an abomination Thanks for all you do Don May door Madore, I don't know why I keep saying Don. It just looks like Don for some reason. It's Dan. Circadian, soon to be, of the rhythm section. P.S. I've attached my PayPal receipt for the Don. We got it.

Starting point is 02:18:16 We trust you. You're good to go. You've got karma. Give it up for Raven. You've got karma. Onward to Brian L. Deerfield Beach, Florida. $1,000. Dear Adam and John, with the heartfelt ITM energy, I extend my deepest thanks for your courage. You guys became an integral part of my routine for the better part of a decade, woo!

Starting point is 02:18:50 And I can't thank you enough for your work during COVID. I met the love of my life this day seven years ago. She grew into the best family medicine doctor right before my eyes, not a pill pusher. No Agenda was a lifeline for us during her medical residency in Washington, D.C., where we and eight other doctors wrote a systematic review that was blackballed by every journal in May of 2020 due to the out-of-patent intervention we were recommending.

Starting point is 02:19:15 I didn't want to believe the entire medical system was captured, but it became painfully clear. We avoided almost everything, including the White House chop zone during the Summer of Love, where buildings were burned and bird scooters would max out at three miles per hour in high crime areas. The No Agenda Show was our constant companion playing everywhere we went. Your sharp insights and steadfast dedication brought us clarity and comfort when we needed it most. I am deeply grateful for both of your courage and commitment as well as that of the entire Gitmo Nation. This is a long overdue donation. I will proudly frame this media deconstruction credential on my wall. A shout out to John G who hit me in the mouth many years ago.

Starting point is 02:19:55 I'm gonna need a D-douche. You've been D-douched. But no jingles or karma. I know my note is long and John is already annoyed. Please-ya-day-yo. Please knight me, Sir Doc Nelson, Knight of the Capital Region, and I'd like to request John's favorite muscadine wine for the roundtable. If it's out, I'll take the mead. P.S. I missed the Zephyr Report. Thank you for your courage.

Starting point is 02:20:17 So which wine are we putting at the roundtable? Well, it's pronounced muscadine. Well, thank you. Thank you for that correction. If they still have it, I would say, oh, what's the name of this? It's an operation in Arkansas. It's the only quaffable Muscadine I've ever had.

Starting point is 02:20:35 Well, what is it? I had some winery in Arkansas. Arkansas, I'll just ask. Just say Arkansas Muscadine. That would do the trick. Muscadine, okay. Can we get Arkansas, Muscadine. That would do the trick. Muskadine. Okay. Can we get some Arkansas muscadine?

Starting point is 02:20:49 Okay. Yeah. Taking care of. Muskadine, muscadine. Yeah. Rhymes with wine. Yes. Muskadine wine.

Starting point is 02:20:58 Got it. Got it. It's a big, giant grape. Have you ever seen a muscadine grape, this like, it's like a plum. It's not like in a bunch. It's like, it's like a plum giant, huge, horrible tasting. The more you know, uh, let's go with, uh, Don Daniel, Daniel Franco in Bronx.

Starting point is 02:21:26 The Bronx. The Bronx. 44445. He sent a note. I'm trying to check. I happen to have the note right here. In the morning, M. Curry and Dvorak, the donation of 44445 is show number 4776, well I came in late. Thursday, June 26th, it would reference to the year 1774, 1775, and 1776.

Starting point is 02:21:55 With this donation, my total is now 1000, thereby finally making me eligible for knighthood in the realm of no agenda. My title will be Sir I'm not a spook. Oh no, I'm a, I'm a nada, I'm a nada spook. I'm a nada spook. I'm a nada spook. Because that's exactly what a spook would say. I'm nada spook.

Starting point is 02:22:17 So finally spook money. And well, is it really? In the lands of Throgs Neck, Throg, Throgs Neck, Bronx. You know where that is? Yeah, sure. And guild master, he's the guild master of the Carpenters Guild, 157, of the city of New York, dual class soldier slash craftsman. Well, soldier, maybe that's the spook part. Uh, he's got a beautiful signature,

Starting point is 02:22:45 say the least. It's one of those celebrity looking things. Daniel Franco. Sir, I'm a not a spook. All right. So he's on the list. We go to Pete Arnold III in Becker, Minnesota, 363.92 which may be 333.33 plus fees he says I'll keep this as brief as possible. Very funny. Adam I'm the dude who asked you on Twitter for the cutoff time for show 1776 and miss it anyway despite your quick reply on X. Replying to me, by the way, is something Elon Musk has yet to do, so that's a thing you'd totally do better than him in case you needed a boost. Well, gee thanks. Adam's experience with door knocking storm chasing roof salesman made me want to donate. I am not one, though my company is related and that's the purpose for my notes.

Starting point is 02:23:39 My company, Hire a Pro, helps homeowners GC their own projects. So in the event of storm damage claim, we guide the homeowner through the process and keep the money that would otherwise be profit for a roofing company all while being by the book and still within the rules of insurance reimbursement to a degree where we actually have insurance agents sending us business. In the last three years, we've kept almost- That's interesting. That's a good idea. So you do your own general contract

Starting point is 02:24:06 Yes, of course. They back you up. Of course in the last three years We kept almost half a million dollars in the hands of Minnesota homeowners with six thousand dollars being the average That is pretty good deal roofing companies hate us. So I know we're doing a good thing. I'm praying this year I can finally cross the full-time barrier so it can focus on it 100% I have a lot of ideas I want to implement most of which I believe are as disruptive as Uber or DoorDash has been to their respective industries. Work my ass off to have the capital to develop and implement them. That's an American right there.

Starting point is 02:24:36 That's an American. The only jingle I wish at the end of this is some jobs karma. Thank you for all you do and Adam if you end up needing a new roof from a hail claim, hit me up. I can show you how the cake is made and if anyone in Minnesota needs hail damage well you don't want hail damage but if you need hail damage repair I guess don't hire a roofer hire a pro visit us online at hire a dot pro hire a dot pro it's so easy even the people knocking your door could do it and jobs karma jobs jobs jobs and jobs

Starting point is 02:25:14 Tanya's here tella Tanya Alec Alexanian which is a Armenian name if I'm not mistaken, but she's in dollar lay dollar day days are more in Quebec 336 switcheroo for my boyfriend Jeffrey sarcissian His birthday is July 6 another Armenian jingles house buying karma and health karma from my girlfriend and her family This is truly the best podcast in the universe. You guys

Starting point is 02:25:46 have kept me sane for at least six years and provide a great source of information and entertainment. You guys are awesome. Four more years. You've got Karma. And then right up the road here in Georgetown, Texas, 263.22 cents. Associate executive producer credit goes to Thomas Anaya, who has no note. That means Thomas gets a double up Karma today. You've got Karma. Pete Arnold, the third in Becker, Minnesota. 233.

Starting point is 02:26:26 Wait a minute, 233.70. This is Pete from Hierapro again. He's back. Second donation on the same show, second note. I wasn't joking when I said my ideas were disruptive anyway. I've got a group of good people. The note wasn't long enough. Anyway, I've got a group of good people that deserve a boost to their station that I would

Starting point is 02:26:47 love to work with as we grow a company together. So one more jobs, Karmak. Over here for them Minnesota people. Remember, hire a pro. Thanks again, boys. That's interesting. It's like a pre-roll and a post-roll in one donation segment. I support this idea. Come back with us with a payoff.

Starting point is 02:27:07 It was pretty good. I like it. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Well, I'll take the one after this one because you apparently have a note for Chris Boorman in Simsbury, Connecticut. Yes, you do Eric. Eric Stottlemeyer in Princeton, Minnesota. A lot of Minnesota people today. Yeah, interesting. Eric here with Easy Construction Solutions. Another one. I've been donating $4 a week since June of 2023, a program I feel everyone should be doing it. They feel like they can't afford a larger donation. Please deduce.

Starting point is 02:27:52 You've been deduced. I thought I'd celebrate being halfway to knighthood with my first associate executive producership. I am a general contractor in the Twin Cities and service all of Minnesota and Wisconsin with a special passion for cabin country, cabin country with the insane weather from Bemidji Minnesota. I've been to Bemidji, Bemidji Minnesota. I have Bemidji. I have a very small airport. Bemidji Minnesota to Baldwin, Wisconsin. I thought instead of paying

Starting point is 02:28:21 for annoying spam texts to homeowners, even more annoying door knockers, sounds related, I'd donate to the best podcast in the universe. Seems better to just put my info out into the Noah Jenner universe and let the good Lord take it from there. Visit EZRoofingMN.com. Well, how about, are these guys working together? Yeah, I don't know. EZRoofingMN.com to send me a note. Definitely an attack.

Starting point is 02:28:46 It's the attack of the Minnesotans. If I can help you with the next project anywhere in Minnesota, Wisconsin, the website will get better. I'm a far better contractor than web developer. Finally, as a pastor son, PK, Adam's recent faith journey has been so encouraging and uplifting. I'll leave you with my favorite verse, Galatians 6.9, a, do not grow weary in doing good, oh, 6.9, a, do not grow weary in doing good,

Starting point is 02:29:10 which you too seem to embody. Thank you for your courage, Eric Stottelmeyer, future Sir Eric Keeper of the Cabin Country. All right, brother, thank you. Christian money. Yes, right. Yes, right. Okay, we got Chris Boorman in Simsbury, Connecticut, 21654. After five years of listening, it's time I put my money where my mouth is and donate. We had a number of people today that have been listening for years on end.

Starting point is 02:29:42 And that's fine. No, it is fine, but it just tells anybody out there that does podcasts, it doesn't all come in when it should. Just so you know, you gotta, what was it? Do not grow weary in doing good. Okay, do not grow weary, because you're gonna be waiting for a long five years for the, for Chris here. I put my money where my mouth is and donate so please deduce me. You've been deduced. What finally got me moving? He

Starting point is 02:30:15 asks what finally got me moving? Well when I heard you worked with Chip Ingram on their podcast. Oh how about that? Chip was born on the 21st of June, 1954. So I hereby dubbed this 216.54. It's a Chip Ingram. You should put Chip on the birthday list. It's a Chip Ingram donation. It's a Chip Ingram donation. Hold on.

Starting point is 02:30:39 I'll put him on the list. Check the Chip Ingram donation. It's going to be a thing. It's going to be a thing, he says. It's going to be a thing. It's gonna be a thing he says. Wait a minute. It's gonna be a thing. So when was his birthday? The 21st? The 21st of June, yeah.

Starting point is 02:30:51 Yeah, Chip Ingram. And there's another Christian donation because he says, come on fellow Christian douchebags. Who's with me? I'm also requesting a generous supply of Job karma. God bless you both says Chris. Oh thank you. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yay! Chipping room donation. Two ten and sixty cents La Jolla Salt Corporation, La Jolla, California.

Starting point is 02:31:26 We're stamping aren't we? said the elephant to the mouse. Yes, declared the mouse and moisturizing while we exfoliate with luxurious sea salt scrubs from La Jolla salt.com. While you're smoking a palm oil, now they will know us from our stomp and glow rejoice the elephant and they all put the same put on the same hat La Jolla salt comm mouse and elephant not included. Thank you for your courage Creative I like it. It's not bad. Eli the coffee guys up. He's in Bensonville, Illinois. He came in with 20629 John great newsletter. I Thought I had cooking basmati rice down until your recipe. Yes, the last newsletter had the basmati rice recipe,

Starting point is 02:32:13 which I promised on the last show. Oh, people love that. Good. Well, they need to learn how to cook that rice. It's not cooked the way they show you on YouTube. Okay, you don't need to repeat it. It's a tip of the day.net. Your recipe. John's technique yields a much fluffier rice with better texture. I was inspired. I'm sorry. I had to spike the ball once in a while.

Starting point is 02:32:37 It's something decent. I was inspired and it made some, I made some Persian meatballs with ground buffalo from the farmer's market in a pomegranate honey reduction. Wow, wow. Eli, the coffee guy, little chef on the side. I got him. I inspired him. A little chef on the side.

Starting point is 02:32:55 I like that. Served with a side of yogurt dill cucumbers. Oh, nice. It was marvelous. Now, if you could just do me a favor and recommend a good wine to pair with the meal next time. I have a wine tip for today's tip of the day. Will it pair? Yes, it would pair perfectly with this.

Starting point is 02:33:13 Obviously, I'm a man that loves good flavor. And I bring that same passion to curating our selection of coffees. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20. Grab a bag of something delicious today. Stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy. And our final associate executive producer, there she is once again, the one, the only Linda Lupatkin from Lakewood, Colorado, who always wants a Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs, and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

Starting point is 02:34:08 Let's vote for jobs. Yeah! Youth jobs. Karma. Well, Dynamite everybody, thank you so much to our executive and associate executive producers. Long notes, but entertaining nonetheless, I have to say. There's content in the donations. This is the part that people sometimes miss when they think, well, I've got to thank all those people. Yeah, there's content in the donations. This is the part that people sometimes miss when they think, well, I've got to thank all those people. Yeah, there's content in there.

Starting point is 02:34:29 You'd be surprised. Thank you all. And of course, we'll be thanking people who donated $50 and above in our second segment coming up shortly. And as always, you can support us with your value for value, time, talent, or treasure. For the treasure, go to NoAgendaDonations.com. Any amount, anytime you want to. You can tell some people after five years we appreciate it and of course you can set up a sustaining donation any amount any frequency noagendadonations.com thank you again to these executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth. So just as a short humorous moment.

Starting point is 02:35:26 So I don't know if you saw the law long press conference that Trump gave the other day, but which one's not long. Yeah. Which is a huge contrast everybody else has ever been in office. How can you miss it? The quad screen is all Trump. Yeah. It's like, they're going to him live now. MSNBC used to reject that. We're not gonna go live. It's too entertaining. We're not going to go live. It's too entertaining. They're crazy not to. Exactly. So I caught this little moment in the middle of one of his press conferences I thought was cute.

Starting point is 02:35:54 Oh yeah. Mr. President, on the 2020 election, is there any more information on the special prosecutor? So many Americans still have questions about the 2020 election. And speaking of rogue judges, would you consider appointing somebody at DOJ maybe to investigate the judges that allowed for the political persecution of you, your family, and your supporters during the Biden administration? I love you. Who are you? Tom Carrah from Lindell TV.

Starting point is 02:36:19 Well, that's a very nice question. And it's not a setup. I have no idea who you are, but I appreciate that question. All I can say is we're not here for that. I hope so. I hope they're doing a thing because that election was rigged and stolen and we can't allow that to happen.

Starting point is 02:36:35 You know, a lot of people tell me, sir, you just won the greatest election in the history of our country. You won in numbers that won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, won everything. Sir, go on with your life. And many people say that, good people, friends of mine. Then you have people that say that same thing, go on with your life, but you have to find

Starting point is 02:36:57 out what happened because you can't let that happen again. Yeah, yeah, this is the, it was Black Girl. He's not letting that one go. Was this the Black Girl? No, yeah, this is the, it was Black Girl. He's not letting that one go. Was this the Black Girl? No, no, this is a, I think her name is Kara. And she works for Lindell TV. He's got his own little... Mike Lindell.

Starting point is 02:37:15 Yeah, he's got his own little network. I don't know if people knew that. He's got quite the network. And he and she was wearing, and he said the girl in the red dress, and then he picked somebody in an orange I think you're gonna start seeing a very colorful Press oh so they can get pics pick me this is the reminds me of the

Starting point is 02:37:35 The floor of the stock exchanges where guys would get dressed up in clown outfits So you could be easily identified and I think you're gonna start seeing that because he was going with, oh, the red dress. Red dress. It was not to her. Yeah, not a setup, Mike Lindell. Lindell, by the way, who gets no credit for the lawsuit that he went through. You know, they tried to sue him

Starting point is 02:37:58 for like Dominion level money, one of those people over there. And he was successful fending it off, but they re that he, they ruined his whole business and he still keeps on trucking. Yeah. He's a, he's a perseverance. Yeah. Him and the, uh, who's the overstock.com guy who used to be the CEO.

Starting point is 02:38:23 I forget, I forget about him. Oh yeah. He's still out there. Uh, Patrick, Patrick. Yeah. No, those, those guys, they got the goods. They know. Oh, we'll see if that ever happens.

Starting point is 02:38:35 Um, RFK Jr. on the move once again. And, uh, this of course is the, uh, the new committee who comes in for the vaccine policy. I thought, uh, I'd kick it off with France 24. This is great to hear without evidence, discredited claims, falsely claims. This girl really does it all here in this quick report. RFK Junior Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Donald Trump's health secretary and longstanding

Starting point is 02:39:06 vaccine skeptic fired 17 experts on that advisory panel recently. He replaced them with eight new people, mostly anti-vaxxers. On Thursday they voted to walk back. Of course it's a lie, but even France 24 is apparently captured by the big pharma. Mostly anti-vaxxers. On Thursday they voted to walk back vaccine recommendations for the common flu and the reason being a common false argument of anti-vaxxers that the flu vaccine has an ingredient. So you're going to make me interrupt the whole thing because she's going to say stuff like

Starting point is 02:39:47 false argument? Yeah. Oh yeah. False argument. It's an argument, not a false argument. What is that? This doesn't even make sense. It's like a non-sec word to say something like that.

Starting point is 02:39:56 That's what's so good about it. Vaccine recommendations for the flu, for the common flu and the reason being a common false argument of anti-vaxxers that the flu vaccine has an ingredient that is linked to autism. That's what the New York Times reports in this article. The decision signaling a powerful shift it says in the way federal officials approach vaccines but also delivering the first blows to scientific to a scientific process that has delivered effective and tested vaccines to Americans for decades now that Ingredient I mentioned is with complete immunity. She forgot to mention that with complete immunity from lawsuits in case they hurt you

Starting point is 02:40:39 by the way Just before I forget to say never I don't say it enough on the show. That's the key. Get rid of that bull crap. Every pill that they sell you, they sell you a pill or a therapy of any sort, they are subject to being sued for bad medicine or if it makes you sick, it makes you ill, it kills you. Everybody, for everything else, you can be liable, but for this one product and one product only, they're indemnified? How does that work? Why?

Starting point is 02:41:17 Really? The question is the focus of this article here in the Conversation on Australian Academic Research website, which explains that it's actually a preservative, and it's called thimerosal. It's a mercury-based preservative used in some drug products because it prevents contamination by killing microbes. But the website says it's important to note that it's hardly ever used in flu vaccines today. The website also explaining that the argument that vaccines cause autism

Starting point is 02:41:49 because of this ingredient first surfaced in 1998 when a report, now discredited report, was published in the medical journal The Lancet claiming that several children had developed autism following the flu shot. Well, good job, girl. Good job. Good job. Okay, fine. So that's the European take. CBS, as you can imagine. Well, they have other things to say. A CDC vaccine advisory committee with new members handpicked by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. met for the first time today. The committee makes recommendations on the use and scheduling of vaccines for children and adults. As Elaine Kehanna reports, several members of the committee

Starting point is 02:42:34 share Secretary Kennedy's skepticism about vaccines. I thought they were anti-vaxxers. What is this? Skeptics? That's no good. You don't want skeptics on an advisory committee. That doesn't make any sense. Dr. Jennifer Duchamp has treated hundreds of RSV cases in children at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City. How severe can RSV symptoms be? RSV can be extremely severe. It can...

Starting point is 02:43:00 You notice what they're doing here. They're taking a report about the vaccine commission advisory committee and they're turning it into an ad for the RSV vaccine. These people have no shame. She sent children to the ICUs. It can cause them to need intubation, a breathing tube, mechanical ventilation, constant breathing treatments. Last fall and winter, during the height of RSV season, Dr. Duchon, who specializes in pediatric infectious diseases, saw a drop in RSV hospitalizations compared to previous years. She says that's in part because of the RSV immunization that's given to babies after they're born. Even though fewer infants were hospitalized for RSV, it was still the leading cause of

Starting point is 02:43:43 hospitalization for that age group. Preliminary estimates by the CDC show up to 23,000 people died from RSV last season. Yeah, I love it how everything else they always bring in other factors, but you know, were these with these mothers, did they have the COVID vaccine? Is anything else that was going on? Well, there was a drop because of this. I mean mean that doesn't even say that it's effective it says well there was a drop in RSV cases because you know because we have this RSV vaccine. This is unbelievable. The CBS is gonna fail with this idea of having these two anchors that was John Dickerson that other guy because you can't the olden days when you had

Starting point is 02:44:22 two anchors. You can't have two dudes, man. You can have two dudes. No, I don't think you have two dudes. Huntley and Brinkley were fine as two dudes. Here's the problem, if you start looking at it, it looks like it's a couple of, like a couple or a couple of brothers or something, because they finish each other's sentences.

Starting point is 02:44:39 This is not done right. You can't have one guy start the sentence and the other guy finish it. It's like, so they go back and forth and back and forth with the read So you got your read on the prompter and they have half of it said by one guy The other guy kicks in and starts talking and the other guy kicks in and starts talking as though that in is one Presentation you have to go to one guy for the presentation and go to the other guy for another presentation You can't go back and forth and back and forth. They're running it like local, like the local news or like entertainment.

Starting point is 02:45:07 Or worse is they're running it like those twin sisters who finished these other sentences and talk exactly at the same time. This is, it's terrible. Rigorous traditional approach. The committee that advises the CDC on vaccines announced today it plans to examine the long established childhood vaccination schedule, including whether infants should receive an RSV immunization before eight months. Also under consideration, whether hepatitis B shots

Starting point is 02:45:35 are needed for all newborns before leaving the hospital and the timing and formulation for the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. What's your reaction to what you're hearing out of Washington and this panel right now? It makes me concerned. Oh! That again focusing on the risks

Starting point is 02:45:52 as opposed to the overall benefits which have been proven over time. This is great. They're focusing on the risks. Why would you focus on the risk? That makes no sense. That again focusing on the risks as opposed to the overall benefits which have been proven over time.

Starting point is 02:46:11 The panel is expected to vote tomorrow on whether to recommend that RSV immunization for infants that we mentioned. They're also scheduled to vote on whether to recommend the flu vaccine and specifically they plan to discuss a preservative that is no longer widely used in flu shots. Widely used thimerosal which is mercury and he we got to bring in the doc now bring in LaPouc. LaPouc the spook. Last night we told you about a meeting of health secretary Robert F. Kennedy's newly selected vaccine advisory committee, which includes members who share his vaccine skepticism. Today that- So this is the new talking point. They share his vaccine skepticism. Some members share his vaccine skepticism. Isn't that what

Starting point is 02:46:57 the American people deserve? For them to be skeptics? Is this a bad thing? I asked you. Yeah, it's a bad thing you want. It's gonna hurt the pharmaceutical bottom line. Oh, I'm sorry. Which includes members who share his vaccine skepticism. Today, that panel endorsed flu vaccinations for the fall, but only for shots that do not include an ingredient which has been falsely linked to autism. False way! Archie's medical correspondent, Dr. John Lap Lapuque asked a former acting director of the CDC

Starting point is 02:47:29 about the significance of this week's meeting. Until recently, I think most of the public didn't even know this committee existed. We do have real-world evidence from this committee. This committee exists to provide advice and guidance to the medical community so that we can give the best advice to our patients and they can make the best decisions about their health and the health of their children. Dr. Richard Besser is a pediatrician and the president of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. You were the active CDC director and you interacted with this committee.

Starting point is 02:48:02 How does what's happening now differ from what happened in your day? In the past, if there was a question that this committee wanted to address, they would put together a work group and it would have two members of the ACIP of the committee as well as the best scientists from CDC. They would spend months diving into the science before they would bring it to the committee.

Starting point is 02:48:21 This issue today didn't go through that process and that's really concerning. Where does that leave us? Where I think it leaves us is that there will be other organizations that come forward and make vaccine recommendations. The Academy of Pediatrics, different infectious disease societies. I think it's worth mentioning that the whole reason RFK Jr. became interested in this is because he was suing companies over mercury in the water. He tells this story many times. There was this group of mothers who kept showing up every single time, everywhere he went.

Starting point is 02:49:00 They kept saying, please listen to us. They gave him this huge stack of papers and research, scientific research, I guess, about thimerosal and how it had hurt their children. And that's how he, and he went, because this is what he does. He's a lawyer, he goes through this stuff. And he has the whole, I guess at the time,

Starting point is 02:49:19 the Children's Health Defense Network. And he says, you know, this is a real problem. Or is it? Let's ask the doctor. The American says, you know, this is a real problem. Or is it? Let's ask the doctor. The American College of Physicians, which has more than 160,000 members, called this week's meeting a dangerous and reckless path that will leave our patients vulnerable to preventable illnesses.

Starting point is 02:49:36 If I'm a parent watching this, I might think, well, no big deal. I'm going to still be able to get flu vaccine and I'd rather not have mercury. What's the problem? The whole process today suggests that there is something unsafe about our vaccine system and there isn't. There are still decisions to be made about additional vaccines. The committee is weighing changes to recommendations for the measles and hepatitis B vaccines. There is still no decision on this fall's COVID shots. Why are you giving a kid hepatitis B vaccine,

Starting point is 02:50:05 it's a sexually transmitted disease. A, but B, what does the guy just say? Remember back in the day when the swine flu vaccine came out, they were lined up to get the swine flu vaccine and one of the batches of the swine flu vaccine was very well documented, contained live swine flu virus so they could spread it faster. But there's no liability, don't worry about it. They got caught with their pants down with that vaccine that had live flu, swine flu viruses in it. It was not a good product.

Starting point is 02:50:42 No. So there's your update. What was this? I think you have a clip about this. The, the syringe attacks in France. Oh, this is one of these, I'd like to have these stories that nobody covers. It shows up. Oh, it was covered. It was covered.

Starting point is 02:50:57 I saw it covered. I didn't hear it except on this report. Festival goes in France were targeted in more than 100 syringe attacks over the weekend. 145 people were jabbed with syringes at different venues across the country during Fête de la Musique. Teenage girls were among the people who ended up in hospital. Most noticed a mark on their body before feeling ill and seeking medical help. Officials have not yet said what was in the syringes.

Starting point is 02:51:24 12 people have now been detained in relation to the attacks. So, with hundreds of thousands of people set to attend festivals in the UK this summer, how can you protect yourself? Generally, the advice is to make sure you're aware of your surroundings. If you see something suspicious, then report it to staff or the police, and don't leave any possessions or drinks unattended. Do we know what was in there yet? No, there's never been any follow-up on this story. I think they suppressed this story because they don't want to give people ideas. I mean, if you're going to have these cities, San Francisco being one of them and now New York's

Starting point is 02:51:59 going to be one of them and it's very popular up in Seattle and Portland, places like that where you have free syringes being given away. So drug users can take their drugs in their little place. They can have a little play. Oh, I'm going to take the drugs in a safe place. And so this free syringe is flying all over the place. The left in the street is there all over the place is terrible. You're going to have something like this could become an epidemic. Yeah, it's not good It's not good. I just wonder why we haven't there's still awaiting talk

Starting point is 02:52:30 Toxology reports toxicology reports. We're never gonna hear anything. No, you're probably right hmm Yeah, all right. What do we got? Well just a little boots on the ground from one of our producers about the pass keys We were talking about. Oh, yes. okay. He says there's one additional little thing. Passwords, so the pass key is you know you don't actually know the pass key you have it stored on your device or on your computer or on your phone. He says passwords are actually protected under the Fifth Amendment since you can't be forced to reveal what you know.

Starting point is 02:53:07 Pass keys work differently. The user doesn't actually know the pass key. It's stored in access with biometrics or a device pin. He says that way pass keys generally do not get the same legal protection against compelled use. I think that's a very astute observation. Ah, dynamite. Yeah. That is a very good- You stay with the old passwords, people.

Starting point is 02:53:33 Yeah, I think you should, yeah, because they could say, hey, just look here, and your phone unlocks with your face, which I've never understood as a good idea. That was a bad idea. I've never understood that. Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Well, it's easy. Well, okay, sure. No password. That's easy.

Starting point is 02:53:52 That's the easiest. Even when you're dead, you just hold the phone up to the dead person's face. Boom, opens. Good to go. Thumbprint. Let's talk about the little Venezuelans in Chicago. PBS again is promoting the state of affairs, anything that kind of pushes back on Trump's agenda because he didn't give them

Starting point is 02:54:12 their 1% of their money. They're going to pull the funds. And so we're going to see a lot of pro-pride flag, pro-immigration kinds of stories. You're going to still have the Brooks and Capehart agreeing with each other. It's going to just downhill. Chuck Hernandez is chair of the Chicago Republican Party. There's not really an appetite to support those who come here, whether it be illegally or under a temporary program that was put in by Biden.

Starting point is 02:54:44 He says the Trump administration has a right to enact its immigration policies. He says the arrivals from Venezuela have strained Chicago's resources. We're having right now in Chicago a real crunch financially. And then the amounts of Chicago taxpayer money going towards many of these groups. It's money that could be used towards citizens that should not be going towards these people that are here on a temporary type of basis. How do you respond to people who say T is for temporary? The issue here is not that they're dealing with tanks,

Starting point is 02:55:20 they're dealing with human beings. And when a human being is afraid to go back, and that really what the situation is here, that people has been told that Venezuela is getting better. Venezuela is not getting better. Venezuela is getting worse. I sympathize with them, but this was the fault of the Biden administration.

Starting point is 02:55:42 Oh! By giving people false hope that you can come here. For their part, Venezuelans we spoke with said they feel a sense of deja vu. All over again. Yeah, so they're painting, this is part of a long report, and they have the cold-hearted Republican saying, we can't afford this, it's just that simple. And then you have all these sympathetic voices that go on about, you know, it's just people, it's people. And this is hard to fight, you know, this is a strategy you use when you want to slam something. You abuse people.

Starting point is 02:56:20 Sympathy, sympathy. My country, there is no legal process. The United States was the first country to guarantee those freedoms, and now living through this situation, it feels the same as what happened in Venezuela, because they are not respecting the due process of the people. In the meantime, many will continue to stay in the shadows, afraid of what lurks outside their front door. For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Fred de Sam Lazaro in Chicago.

Starting point is 02:56:52 So here's the question I have. They're in Venezuela. They put them into Chicago. What about Mexico or Costa Rica or Brazil or Colombia or Ecuador with this. Why don't this is like the Palestinians. Nobody wants to take them. I guess. So we take we have to take them because nobody else will take them.

Starting point is 02:57:15 Now you're sounding like a Republican. Why I sound like a Republican, but it's like they speak Spanish. They're in a continent. Yes, except for Brazil, which speaks Portuguese, but it's like they speak Spanish. They're in a continent, except for Brazil, which speaks Portuguese, but they're basically in a, and you can make that transition, it's not that difficult, but they're in an entire continent of Spanish speakers all the way through up through Central America and Mexico, and we have to take them? It just doesn't make sense to me. No person is illegal. A person cannot be illegal. What's wrong with you? Do you not love people?

Starting point is 02:57:50 You are a horrible man. Which brings you to a tick-clock. All right, tick-tock clip time. Stolen land girl. I don't want to hear another white person say the word illegal for the rest of my goddamn life. We are living on stolen land. Our ancestors forcibly and violently seized this land from the indigenous peoples who were living here for generations before we ever showed up. We do not get to call them illegal.

Starting point is 02:58:21 We don't own the fucking planet. Nobody does. We are evolved monkeys with opposable thumbs who use them to write little monkey scribbles on a slice of tree and we call it a birth certificate with our little monkey sounds. All of it is made up. None of it is real and it doesn't fucking matter. And it's certainly not a valid reason to rip a terrified screaming child away from his weeping mother. And I am tired of being made to feel like I'm crazy for being angry about this. Capitalism is just narcissism as an economic system.

Starting point is 02:58:56 Imperialism is just narcissism as a foreign policy. If the lion can't claim the safari for himself and call the elephant illegal, then neither the fuck can we! Oh, that was interesting. If the lion can't... Let me just... I want to hear that thing. That was... Unbelievable. Let me hear that again. Capitalism is just narcissism as an economic system. Imperialism is just narcissism as a foreign policy. If the lion can't claim the safari for himself and call the elephant illegal, then neither the fuck can we!

Starting point is 02:59:29 This is, again, this makes me just very sad because she is very, very wound up about this. And I'm sure that she is not doing anything about herself except screaming on TikTok. Which doesn't, run for city council, run for government. Do something you do nothing. Yeah. Phony. That's what I call her. She's a phony. I don't feel sorry for her.

Starting point is 02:59:53 She's a big phony. Why don't you go do, like you said, become politically active if you feel so strong about this stuff. She wants to. Instead of yacking at TikTok. She needs a hug. All these people need hugs and love. Give me another. Give me another. Give me another. You know this one I end up cutting off because she

Starting point is 03:00:12 just goes on too much but this is mom on the Z. This is mom Z girl up. Mom. What does that mean? Mom Z girl up. You don't even know anymore. I'm gonna start this video by saying that this is not the usual content I normally share on my page. I had easily the most unsettling experience I've ever had as a mother this morning and I wanted to come here and share about it. I'm actually feeling really shaken up inside but I'm doing my best not to change. Okay stop stop stop. Now you remember. Yeah, well this is the way that it works. Yes. I have found, this is only part of it, this is why I cut it off

Starting point is 03:00:48 because I'm gonna explain what it is. I have found at least 10 of these. Exactly the same. It's exactly the same. I'm a mother and I was leaving the store and somebody came up to me and says, can you help me? Can I hold your baby while you move my car

Starting point is 03:01:04 because I can't get in the seat? There's always a million reasons that somebody comes up to me and says, can you help me? Can I hold your baby while you move my car? Cause I can't get in the sea. There's always a million reasons that the woman, somebody comes up to me, holds the baby. There's always a van involved. There is a van parked here. And then, and the woman, the mother says, well, let's, let's go inside the store and we'll talk to a manager. Maybe they can help you. And then they go inside the store and then the woman disappears and gets into a van and drives off because it was a scam. There is at least 10 of these videos out there and this is just one example and I don't know this is that's why I have Z.

Starting point is 03:01:34 It's an op. Okay. But what kind of an op is this? Well let's listen. I'm going to start this video by saying that this is not the usual content I normally share on my page. I had easily the most unsettling experience I've ever had as a mother this morning and I wanted to come here and share about it. I'm actually feeling really shaken up inside but I'm doing my best not to translate that over camera because I'm not at all narcissistic. It's not at all about me and about how I feel and how shaken up I am. I usually don't share this on my page but please look at me while I talk about me and my feelings. I really don't want to spread fear to anybody. I just simply want to inform other mothers that this happened to me today and this is

Starting point is 03:02:12 unfortunately happening and I saw a video maybe two months ago of a mom who had an almost identical experience and her sharing her experience I believe helped me know how to navigate this in the best and most productive way possible. So here goes. and her sharing her experience, I believe helped me know how to navigate this in the best and most productive way possible. So here goes. I went to Kroger around 9 a.m. this morning, broad daylight, and I got out of my car with my daughter and a woman approached me. She said that she had parked her car too close to the car next to it and was unable to get back into her car to back it out. She asked me if I would back her car out for her and offered multiple times to hold my daughter

Starting point is 03:02:47 while I backed her car out for her. When I looked to her car, I noticed her car was parked in one space and with about maybe a foot space in between, there was an old beat up van parked on the other side of the driver's seat of her car. I was very firm with her and said, you will not be holding my child,

Starting point is 03:03:06 but I offered to go inside and- Oh yeah, okay. So it's a child rousing gig. Of some sort. But why is this video cropping up? And it's in slightly different forms, but it's basically the same story. Well, I can tell you what this is.

Starting point is 03:03:23 This happened to a really good friend of mine's brother, grandfather, uncle, but it's true. That's what this is. This is just people. I usually have nothing to say on my page, but I came here to talk about this on my page. You nailed it. I nailed it.

Starting point is 03:03:40 That's exactly what it is. You nailed it. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda. In the morning. Narcissism is a very, very dangerous drug.

Starting point is 03:03:56 A lot of people are addicted to it and TikTok is the dealer. And now we will thank our don- Remember, we still have end of the show mixes coming up. We got John's tip of the day, apparently a wine tip. So this is one you want to stay tuned for we have a meetup report we have We got lots of awards to hand out today PhDs we got nights we got title changes and a wedding we're gonna or a

Starting point is 03:04:20 Forthcoming nuptials we will celebrate but first John's going to thank our supporters for episode 1777 $50 and above. Wow. I don't know anything about the wedding. Yeah. Dame Dany's up. She's in Mount Shasta, California. Beautiful area. $177.71, which is 1777. Plus a penny for the jar. We'll put it in there. Thank you Heather Smith in Portland, Oregon 10535 Is for her husband Steve Vidarelli, I guess of Ozark, Kansas. Mm-hmm, please deduce him You've been deduced and if you can remember to give him some jobs karma at the end, she'd appreciate it.

Starting point is 03:05:08 Sure, sure. Kelly Spongberg, I haven't heard from her for a while. I think that's a he actually. Uh oh. It could be. But he or she is in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta. It's a hundred bucks. And travel karma for Dame Andrea Garnier. Or Andrea.

Starting point is 03:05:30 Andrea, Andrea, Andrea. Uh, David... Zawislak, Zawislak, Zawislak, Zawislak, you know Zawislak. Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go Zawislak, Zawislak, Zawislak, Zawislak, you know Zawislak. Anyway, whoever this David is, he's in the Plains or Des Plains, Illinois, 9356, which is 1776 nickels plus fees. That's a good one. I like that.

Starting point is 03:06:04 Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. He's the Archduke of Loon, lover of America and lover of melons boobs. 8008. John Ferron in Lake Placid, Florida. A 7877. And he could use the D-douche-ing. You've been D-douched. Let's general karma at the end too. 777-7877 from Todd Webster in Fort Worth, Texas. Todd and Cheryl Dorfel in Big Pine Key, Florida. They are the the mom and dad of the Dorphal verse. Oh, well they came with 7877. Thank you very much. Darius Walker in Charleston, West Virginia, 7877. Anonymous in San Rafael, California, 7877.

Starting point is 03:06:57 No need to read my name on the show. And we didn't. Megan Klein in Santa Barbara, California, 76. Oh, she came in again. Megan Klein, switcheroo this time, also 76. And she's doing a switcheroo for her smoking hot dude, Vitas the Destroyer. Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada 76 item gentlemen Borgay Alvarez and Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida

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Starting point is 03:08:41 Douchebag. All right, Mindy, there you go. Hey, Mindy, there you go. Hey Mindy, how you doing? Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, 5272. Commodore Crummy, which is a great name. El Cajon, 5272. Now we go to Sergeant Postal from Miami Lakes, Florida, 5033. Eduardo Jimenez in Mission, British Columbia, 5033. Happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Gina.

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Starting point is 03:11:06 It's a birthday party on no hatchet. Well, first and foremost, we must say happy birthday to Chip Ingram, who celebrated his birthday on the 21st. M. Andrew Jones celebrated yesterday. Dirty Jersey Whore, it's his birthday today on the 29th. Hey, Dirty Jersey Whore.

Starting point is 03:11:24 Serge Aerie celebrates on the 4th of July. Tanya Alexian wishes her boyfriend Jeffrey Sarkissian a happy one on the 6th. And Eduardo Jimenez, happy birthday to his smoking hot wife Gina. And we say happy birthday from everybody here. The best podcast in the universe. And this is from Sir Bhujha Hadin, who is a layaway baron. He started his 33, 33 monthly donations back in 2020, along with several larger one-time donations. And he has now reached the title of baron. He started his 33 monthly donations back in 2020 along with several larger one-time donations and he has now reached the title of Baron. And so he's changing his title to Sir Buzha Hadin, Baron of the Freedom Fighters.

Starting point is 03:12:14 And if available, he would like to take Rutherford County, Tennessee as his protectorate. And I believe that is possible. He also says he has to bring up an issue with us. He's a devoted listener to No Agenda as well as Dave Smith and Scott Horton. And he's a... Horton, here's a who. He's like, don't be so mean, please. Don't be so mean. We're not. We're just who we are. And we are who we are. We are who we are. Can't help it.

Starting point is 03:12:41 We have a couple of congratulations and thank you, Sir Boudjardin, now Baron of the Freedom Fighters. We have one, two, three PhDs who will all be going to NoAgendaRings.com to receive, or to let us know where to send their PhD certificates. A beautiful certificate, you see it there. It's a special little tab for the PhDs. Give us the name you want on it, an address.

Starting point is 03:13:02 We'll send it off to Sir Sonderegger of the Bluff Woods, Dan Madore and Brian L. Congratulations on your PhD in media deconstruction. We have an instant night note, this is going back to 1776 from Sir J.R.E. He's going to be knighted today. And he wants jobs, karma, as he is gamefully employed employed working 70 hour a week as a normality Wow That's something right there He's a lowly man now millennial who works too much so alongside the jobs throw in some relationship karma Well, we certainly hope for that for you. And in fact, we need to throw in jobs and a regular karma for everybody as well. I forgot to do that. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

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Starting point is 03:15:49 help you. Connection gives you protection. NoAgendaMeetups.com. And here is the report from Los Angeles, Leo Bravo with his 64th Meetup Report. Hi everybody, it's Leo Bravo, Meetup number 64. Away we go. ITM gentlemen, sir, mainframe of Ventura, down the line. Proud member of the No Agenda Mass Formation. Hey John and Adam, sir, Leokin and Faux Pop here,

Starting point is 03:16:13 here in beautiful Wilmington at the Marina Cafe where the food is good and it's not even umami. Hey everybody. In the morning. A smaller meetup, but Leo changes venues all the time, so we do appreciate what you do, Leo Bravo. There's a meetup, but Leo changes venues all the time. We do appreciate what you do, Leo Bravo. There's a meetup taking place.

Starting point is 03:16:28 Oh, actually, it took place this morning. That was at Fort Worth, Texas at the Fort Worth Nature Preserve. That was the Do Not Pet the Bison Hike meetup. I hope everyone made it out okay. The June 20th full-on summer startup meetup is underway at Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana. That's Sir Mark and Day Maria of the Greenwood. The East Texas Meetup, that's a birthday meetup. The 33rd plus 16 birthday party extravaganza. That's underway in Longview, Texas.

Starting point is 03:16:56 Rotola's Pizzeria, of course, Dirty Jersey Horror is hosting that. On Thursday, our next showday, the Northern Wake FEMA Region number four, Potluck and Whiskey, there you go, six o''clock at Hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina and still on the calendar for July We have the Denver City Park meetup on the 12th Zurich, Switzerland on the 12th Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the 13th Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 19th and Albany, California on the 19th. I guess you're gonna be going John the 19th It's in your backyard. Yep. Beautiful. And remember, if you send in a Meetup Report, and we do encourage that, always include your server to find out where you can find a No Agenda Meetup. We have a handy website for you. Thank you, Sir Daniel, for creating and maintaining that. Thank you for Mimi for always sending in this list. It is

Starting point is 03:17:41 NoAgendaMeetups.com. If you can't find one near you start one yourself right on that website Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want be, trigger no hell or blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same Ba da ba da ba ba ba ba ba It's like a party Always like a party where everybody feels the same It's like a party Oh, that's how I get them. I'd never look for something myself. Never. Huh. They sent me ISOs. Yeah, that's why mine are so bad. Let's see what bad ones you got today. They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big massive dumps.

Starting point is 03:18:35 The biggest load that we've seen. There was a combo. It's too long, but it was nice. This is one we designed. I know, but he stitched it together. And so that's it. So yours is going to win by default. Well, I have two. Oh, you have two. I only saw one. Oh, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 03:18:49 You have an ISO and you have an ISP. Okay. You want me to play the ISO or the ISP? Let's start with the ISO. I love you. President Trump. Yes. All right.

Starting point is 03:19:00 Now play the Ips. Give this podcast a Pulitzer. Okay, that's done. That is the one. There's no doubt about it. And we go from that straight into John's Tip of the Day. And sometimes at all. Created by Dana Bernetti. Normally I don't, I do wine tips now on occasion. I don't do as many from Costco because, except for those Bordeaux boxes, because there's not, the distribution is sketchy.

Starting point is 03:19:35 But once in a while they have a cheap wine that everybody has, I think, in most of the stores. And I'm recommending one. Okay. I was actually stunned, stunned I tell you by the quality of this product. It's a California wine. And wait, this is available at Costco? Yeah.

Starting point is 03:19:57 I was actually stunned, stunned and more stunned. Before you even tell us, so how did you discover this? I mean, you saw a bottle. You're like, I'm at Costco. Yeah. You're like, that looks like crap, but I'll try it anyway. Yeah. Well, it goes, it goes like this. This is my methodology for buying rando wines. Rando wine. Yeah. Well, I said going by and I'm looking, I say, well, that label's screwy.

Starting point is 03:20:24 That looks like, in looks like it looks like a Old-fashioned geyser peak label. This has a different look for a Kirkland wine. It's a Kirkland wine. I'm looking this is oh, it's nine dollars and 90 cents You know in the pocket baby, that's right in your price range. Let me look at it. Yeah, you know, that's a cheap California Cabernet. I'm thinking this can't be any good, but it's only nine bucks. Let me check it out. It's a stunner. Really?

Starting point is 03:20:53 I mean, I was taken aback. This is the Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon from Alexander Valley, which is a great little Cabernet growing area, Alexander Valley 2022. Oh, that's a good year for Cabernet. It's a good year for a lot of things and the Cabordo is a really good year. And so you, so this wine for $9.90 or whatever it was, it's ridiculously, it's structured beautifully. Normally for that kind of money, California wines are flabby, they're not balanced correctly, they don't have the right flavors, the

Starting point is 03:21:29 profiles are off. This is a stunner, I'm telling you. Maybe I got just a good bottle as possible. But I would recommend this, give this a shot. Wow, well I would say maybe you should try Aldi from time to time, see if you can find something there. I mean, you're just finding all the good stuff at all the craziest places. Yes. Yes, he said. Hey, now that's a very valuable tip

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