No Agenda - 1780 - "Chatbox"

Starting point is 00:00:00 You're nuts. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, July 10th, 2025. This is your award winning Give-A-Nation Media Assassination, episode 1788. This is No Agenda. With nothing to see here and broadcasting live from the heart of Manhattan, New York City, FEMA Region Number Two. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 00:00:23 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering why we're drinking burnt mushroom coffee. I'm Johnston DeVolak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Wait, is that from Gigawatt? No. Oh, then why are you drinking it? I'm not.

Starting point is 00:00:40 Oh, you said you were... okay. You're confusing me. Have you seen his ads for the coffee for the burnt mushroom coffee? No, John, I don't watch television like you do. Well, you should. I'm not going to watch TV like you do. No, I'm not going to. No, it's not going to happen.

Starting point is 00:00:57 What is it? Is this on network television? Yeah, it's all over the place. There's a little mushroom. It's an animated mushroom. It's not real. He's got a a little mushroom. It's an animated mushroom, it's not real. She's got a smiling face. She's walking away.

Starting point is 00:01:07 Wait, wait, you're telling me that there's not a mushroom that can talk and run around on television? This is my understanding. I'm stunned, I'm stunned. And so the mushroom is making a coffee for this woman and she tries the coffee and she goes, this is better than coffee.

Starting point is 00:01:22 And then they promote the idea of drinking this mushroom coffee. I'm gonna have to try it I guess. I don't know what does it taste like? Is it supposed to taste like coffee? Is it postum? I mean what is it supposed to be? Now that you mention this. It's supposed to jack you up. Now you bring this up. We were watching the mini series Four Seasons Four seasons with Steve Carell and Tina Fey. It's like a eight episode mini series thing. And it's okay, but without going into it, I think it's based on a movie by Alan Alda

Starting point is 00:01:57 who plays a role, the guy's 90. It was weird to see Hawkeye show up as this old decrepit man in his cameo role. Anyway, so Steve Carell, he hooks up with a 30 year old when he's almost 60, and then he has to go on vacation with his girlfriend's friends, and they were drinking mushroom coffee. So you're on a trend here.

Starting point is 00:02:22 Of course, it's cause I watch TV. I'm glad that there's two of us, someone has to do it. Of course, it's because I watch TV. I'm glad that there's two of us. Someone has to do it. Before we get to the obvious elephant in the room, just a little bit on the Texas flood. This is much worse than the media is able to show it. And I'm not blaming the media per se. This is just 20 minutes down the road from us

Starting point is 00:02:49 when we're in Texas. And I actually, I feel kind of bad about not being there, not being able to help out more, but when we're back, I'm gonna start doing some more things. This is like the Grand Canyon, where you just can't, you can't get the same effect

Starting point is 00:03:06 Unless you've been there and you know what it looks like John the debris is 25 feet high All over the place and it's not just curvil I mean some of this happened up in Georgetown near near Austin. It is really this was this is level Western, North Carolina It is really, this is level Western North Carolina. With the same result that of course everyone kind of moves on. The media is looking for a narrative and they had all the camp girls, okay, we had that and we have the runaway, the dog that has no owner.

Starting point is 00:03:39 NPR by the way, gets the award. They had a picture of a single baby shoe. Very good NPR, you did it. That's kind of cliched. It's cliched and disgusting. I have like the one sole baby shoe in the debris. But the reports I'm getting, it smells like death everywhere. And they're in desperate need of men with boots

Starting point is 00:04:07 and chainsaws and if you have any heavy equipment and if you want to help out and you're anywhere near or you just want to come and help email me adam McCurry.com I'll give you a number to call and if people want to donate money it's the Hill Country Community Foundation Tina I've checked it out this is the the right place. It's communityfoundation.net. It's real. This is much worse than anyone could have imagined. It really was a bad one. So let's listen to Dana Bash talk about it.

Starting point is 00:04:37 That'll brighten our mood. We're continuing to follow the desperate search in Texas. Last hour, officials said at least 119 people have died and even more remain missing. In New Mexico, residents experienced similar panic during record-breaking, that's what they call it, floodwaters. That was yesterday, a river free surge from less than two feet to more than 20. In less than an hour. At least three people were killed.

Starting point is 00:05:08 Nearly 100 people were rescued. A really big flood just came, like a wall of flood. It came and it started going through. And that's when I started recording because it just, it got so wild so quickly. In central North Carolina, another quote quote once in a 100 year flood. In Chicago, a quote one in a thousand year rain event. That's all just this week. Yeah, these ghouls once in a hundred years.

Starting point is 00:05:39 No, not really. No, she said a thousand. Oh, that was for Chicago or whatever. Once in a hundred, once in a thousand, it all leads to climate change. Don't worry. I think that your thing you did last show, I should have recorded it and play it back,

Starting point is 00:05:51 which outlined the event in the Texas event, how it happened in 18 this, 18 that. Bye bye bye every five years, on and on and on and on and on for endless amounts of time, but somehow it's once in a generation. I mean, these news people are no good. No, no. You gotta leave it to the podcast.

Starting point is 00:06:14 The podcasters seem to be doing everything these days. It's a heavy lift, people. I got one more of Dana Bash, only because she brings in Bill Nye, the science guy. Joining me now to try to make sense of this. Let's make sense of it with this douche bag. Wait, wait, you're gonna make sense. Wow.

Starting point is 00:06:30 I know, let's make sense of this with a douche bag. Joining me now to try to make sense of this and more is Bill Nye the Science Guy. Thanks for being here. It's good to be here. I'm sorry, I really am sorry for all the trouble It's it's it's terrible and so just that last part of what we were sorry for all the trouble Yeah, that's supposed to me. I guess he's he's you know, can we blame him?

Starting point is 00:06:55 I mean we're looking for somebody to blame. We know that everyone wants to blame Trump So we might as well blame Bill Nye. Really? I'm sorry for all the trouble. It's it's it's terrible And so just that last part of what we were describing, you keep hearing once in a lifetime, once in a hundred years, once in a thousand years. At this point, it's not anymore. It's just where we are. Oh, here we go. With the climate and the environment.

Starting point is 00:07:21 Oh, yes. Oh. As we like to say, our side of it, the science side of it, this is exactly what was predicted. It's very difficult to tie any one weather event to climate change. However, the warm weather. This guy is so predictable. Can't really tie weather to climate change however, but we're going to do that anyway.

Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, we're going to do that anyway. Yeah, we're going to do it. Any one weather event to climate change. However, the warm weather events are actually easier to tie to climate change. And so the other problem that happened in the Hill country in Texas is this business of the Balcony escarpment, where the air mass got lifted. So it spread out and the rain came down even faster, but it'll happen again.

Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, well, okay. Yeah, Bill, if you just go to Wikipedia, you can see that it's pretty obvious it'll happen again. Not due to climate change, just due to drought and the soil and clay that we have and the rivers that can't handle it. It's yes, of course. Of course.

Starting point is 00:08:27 I don't think anybody did anything wrong other than we've just come to rely on our government and where was my warning and even though there were warnings, where is the guy that just goes outside says, hmm, I reckon I've seen this before. Yeah. Get to higher ground. That's exactly what happens in those areas. Get to higher ground. That's exactly what happens in those areas. Get to higher ground. Let's just stick with CNN.

Starting point is 00:08:49 I just want to get these out of the way. Very important story we're covering and will continue to is these deadly floods in Texas. As the search continues for the missing, there are big questions being raised about the warnings that happened and the impacts also of cuts to that the Trump administration to the National Weather Service. And while everyone you speak to says a review needs to be done, analysis needs to be done, there's no direct through line.

Starting point is 00:09:16 I did have a former administrator of NOAA just on this morning who said that he thinks the administration's workforce cuts at the National Weather Service contributed to the problem. Let me play this for you. I am convinced that the staff cuts that we saw were a contributing factor to the inability of the emergency managers to respond. The staffing was just fine and the White House has concurred with this to get the forecast out to get the watches and warnings issued.

Starting point is 00:09:46 But when you send a message, there's no guarantee it's being received. So someone needs to follow up and that's the warning board nation meteorologist, a position that was vacant. This is just so dishonest. In fact, the NOOA, NOOA, NOOOO, the NOOAA, they sent the warnings out, but their models were incorrect. N-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O- I'll give you one guess. A climate expert? Yes, a climate expert. It's not Bill Gore. No. No, of course not. You want to bring in Eric Swalwell. Do you think Democrats need to be careful on this?

Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah, I'm going to guess that. Well, first, I mean, as a parent, this is just heartbreaking. I have two kids at camp this week. They're not old enough for sleepaway camp, but you put them, you know, in the responsibility of people who you don't know and this is a parent's nightmare and so I do grieve with those families. I also thank the first responders who put their lives on the line to try and rescue as many people as possible. One of my colleagues, a

Starting point is 00:11:02 Republican colleague, had two of his daughters at this camp. Fortunately, they made it out. I do think as lawmakers, we have a responsibility, though, to look at did cuts affect the ability for folks on the ground and at the camp to have an earlier, better warning? But this is really going to, should we just attack

Starting point is 00:11:25 government for government's sake? And for the last six months, we've seen an effort to undermine the hard work of government workers, whether it's air traffic controllers who keep planes from colliding in the air or FEMA first responders who go into the harshest hit places in America. But if the president's press secretary doesn't like the way this is being described, I would recommend that the president go to Texas and talk to the families and show leadership because that's what presidents do. There is nothing more ghoulish than politicizing something like this. And it happens every single time. I'm glad it was Swalwell because I already didn't like him. So that's good.

Starting point is 00:12:02 There is one story that I think is very troubling when it comes to government, local government in particular, and that's the fire chief in Austin. People are pretty outraged about this story. The Austin fire chief is under fire, not for what he did, but for what the firefighters union says he didn't do. We have the resources, we have the training, we have the personnel. The union president says Chief Baker held back train crews during last week's deadly floods even though they were ready to respond. I started sending

Starting point is 00:12:32 pictures with their names by them as a chief. Open these up and zoom in on these little faces. Eight to ten years old. We need to do something. No response. No deployment. He said Austin firefighters were requested on July 2nd and 3rd before the flooding even started. Austin said no both times. What was said up and down the chain is do not deploy don't even ask. Within our department he's known as a bully. He's known as being vindictive. He's known as being retaliatory. So when you have an order coming down the chain that says we don't deploy, don't even ask, people know what that means and people didn't deploy what they normally would have because of that direct order. Chief Baker defends his decision

Starting point is 00:13:16 saying he had to balance helping other communities while protecting Austin. Chief Baker is so concerned about you know squeezing pennies here and saving money rather than saving people. With nearly 40 years of firefighting experience under his belt, Nick says he doesn't make these claims lightly. I used to be a part of the original Swiftwater team. I know the conditions.

Starting point is 00:13:36 I absolutely believe that lives were lost because Austin firefighters did not deploy. I know some of those girls could have been survived if we had had the best boat crew the day before on scene. I know it. I know it in my heart. And the fact that we didn't do it and we let them down is, is unconscionable. Yeah. They, they could have been out there a day early. Well this fire, this guy, this Austin Fire Chief was assigned pretty much to Austin by Barack Obama and told that they had to diversify the Austin fire department.

Starting point is 00:14:09 And he's on record, there's tapes of him, this guy, he seems like a dummy, saying, oh, the most important thing for Austin right now is to diversify our firefighters. He's kind of a Lloyd Austin type dude. Yeah. Yeah. All that's of a Lloyd Austin type dude. Yeah. All that's missing is without the mask, the face shield. Yeah. And then, uh, you know, there's the amount of people who can't see the difference between geo engineering and chemtrails, which, you know, I believe that is happening. And cloud seeding, which has been going on since, I don't know, John,

Starting point is 00:14:43 what do you think? 80 years they've been cloud seeding in America? Ever since I was born. Yeah. And so this poor sap, the CEO of Rainmaker, who contracts with Texas to make it rain over farms during the season when we need rain, not after the harvest or, you know, not anyway, it doesn't really matter. He also has kind of an unfortunate look. He's got this massive mullet going on. He's a mullet guy. He's a massive mullet guy. So he just kind of looks untrustworthy, but he's kind of a young dude and he's figured out. I don't know. No, I... I saw him interviewed by Alex Jones.

Starting point is 00:15:26 Well, I've got an interview here with him, just a minute. This was on Forbes, actually. So I like the guy. I think he's under pressure, and he does have some stats that are interesting to hear. My heart and prayers are with everybody affected in Texas and the entire state. I'm going to be down there tomorrow trying to help as I can. I run a company called Rainmaker that conducts cloud seeding to make it rain more for farms, for ecosystem restoration, for residential reservoirs when they're suffering from drought.

Starting point is 00:16:00 We work with municipalities and farmers throughout Texas to when there is a drought or there isn't enough water, make it rain more. We unequivocally had nothing to do with the flooding that was caused by the remnants of the tropical storm that blew in. And our biggest cloud seeding missions to date have only produced 10 million gallons of precipitation, approximately. And that tropical storm dumped about four trillion over the course of two days.

Starting point is 00:16:27 So the order of magnitude difference between what cloud seeding is even capable of and what happened is incomparable. And again, I truly am heartbroken about what has happened, but want to make it abundantly clear that cloud seeding was not involved in any capacity, and it's a technology that heartbroken about what has happened, but want to make it abundantly clear that cloud seeding was not involved in any capacity, and it's a technology that is used to help farmers when there isn't enough water. Four trillion gallons.

Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, there's Bannon, not Alex Jones, that I heard him talk. Bannon was trying to push it toward, Yeah, push it towards him. This guy wasn't having any of it, and that figure, he threw that same figure out. He says, you can produce maybe 10 million. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:10 And they're not talking about a billion gallons. They're talking about four trillion gallons. You'd have to have some pretty, you can't do it with cloud seeding. It's no way. Yeah. And so I took that. He seemed like a very, although he was the mullet man, he did seem very knowledgeable

Starting point is 00:17:29 about the whole point. No, he is. But the mullet is just, it's just not a good look in this particular case. It's like, you know, you look like Theo Vaughan. You look like a podcaster. You know, I'm sure people who are out there who believe, trust me, John, the entire community of Fredericksburg is going nuts. This cloud, cloud seeding, cloud seeding, it was like no, calm down.

Starting point is 00:17:54 Of course, these are the same people are going out there and seeing it. Literally, like it just smells of death everywhere. I'm sure it's very similar to Western North Carolina. Very similar. People dead in trees, all kinds of nasty stuff. Yes, gruesome. Okay, so then the story that seems to be preoccupying everybody in the podcast land for sure, but even in mainstream media, I'm sure people are tuning in to hear what we have to say about it. I give you an overview first of the news story about the meltdown. Something is horribly wrong here.

Starting point is 00:18:29 The rift within President Donald Trump's base is growing. Don't sit there and tell me there's nothing when you told me there was something. After an abrupt end to the death and sex trafficking investigations into Jeffrey Epstein. I mean you couldn't discredit yourself worse. It's really, really demoralized people. For years, conspiracy theories have dogged Epstein's prison suicide. I'm amazed at how few people are putting two and two together. As rumors swirled about a possible client list full of high profile individuals.

Starting point is 00:18:59 Rumors fueled directly by Trump's inner circle. The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? It's sitting on my desk right now to review. They're convinced that the Epstein client list is going to have a lot of Democratic politicians on it. Problem is, if it has politicians on it, it's almost certain to have Donald Trump on it.

Starting point is 00:19:22 It's no secret Epstein had plenty of important friends, including Trump. This week in an unsigned memo, the Department of Justice said there was no incriminating client list and went on to definitively say Epstein died by suicide, releasing video from outside the prison wing the night he died.

Starting point is 00:19:40 Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. If Trump wanted to stop the questions, he seemed to make things worse by lashing out. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Leaving many MAGA supporters to believe it's far from case closed. With the conspiracy theory they've been fed for years getting a whole lot bigger. This was very, this was really disappointing. I mean, of everything that has been happening,

Starting point is 00:20:14 the cabinet meeting, I was like, wow, Pam Bondi is an idiot. Like really an idiot. I mean, we already knew she was kind of dumb, but I mean, she can't even lie right. And President Trump just going all in on the cover up. But I mean, if you wanted to cover something up, you could not do a stupider job. And just for background, how long have we been talking about the elites doing this kind of stuff on this show? Oh, since the beginning, pretty much. Exactly. July 10th, 2008, I looked it up, is when I basically got fired from Aero Classic Rock Radio

Starting point is 00:20:56 in the Netherlands for bringing up the Deming affair, which is the highest official in the Dutch Justice Department, who had admitted that he had sex with underage boys and nothing was happening. And then they came right after the, not after me personally, they came after the station. The investors pulled all their money out, station was off the air within 10 days. Or as you say, burn to the ground, which isn't entirely true. But these are the days of Jimmy Savile. Man, we've gone so deep into the Dutroux Rolodex case. Which was a good one.

Starting point is 00:21:40 But it's all, I mean, this happened. They had kids in cages and this was the elite from Brussels and the EU. It's unbelievable what has been going on. The Jimmy Savile case, I mean, come on. That was, and what a cover-up that was. Well, let's even bring it to something that we didn't discuss too much on the show, it was kind of mentioned in passing, which was the George H.W. Bush. Oh, the gay hookers that my uncle of the CIA was giving midnight tours to. And there's also Boys Town. Oh, Boys Town. Wow. That was actually a staple. We used to, we used to play

Starting point is 00:22:21 bits from that all the time. Boys, I forgot all of them. Yeah, we did. Well, there's a couple of bits. We didn't from that all the time. Boys, I forgot all the, yeah we did. Well there's a couple of bits, we didn't do it all the time. But that was back when, before YouTube. This has been going on is what you're trying to say. Yeah, and we've been following it.

Starting point is 00:22:33 We've been following this for a long time. So it, but you know, I'd like to know what Giselle Maxwell must be thinking right now. She's locked up. Has anyone talked to her or done an interview, a jailhouse interview or anything? Oh, why bother?

Starting point is 00:22:53 Why bother? But I mean- They talked, they did. I don't know if I have a, I don't know if I got a clip of it. I didn't get the clip. But there was a clip of Epstein's brother that Cuomo talked to and he says this thing

Starting point is 00:23:07 stinks. And then the only clip I have about is Kiriakou, the ex-CIA guy who is a whistleblower and he was still floating around. I think he's got good knowledge of the inner workings of the way these things operate. I have that clip. Well, let's play that and I I wanna play a few historical clips. Let's play Kiriakou. I'm not blaming the FBI director, Cash Patel,

Starting point is 00:23:31 or the deputy director, Dan Bongino. I think that that layer beneath them, that's part of what we like to call the deep state, has taken this bull by the horns, and they've probably destroyed information. Look at what the CIA did in 1975 after Congress ordered that it release all of its files related to an operation called MKUltra.

Starting point is 00:23:52 The director of the CIA went back to headquarters and ordered everything to be destroyed. And in the end, only about 20% of the documents survived. We're still learning about the FBI's operations against Martin Luther King 50, 55 years after the fact. So now we're supposed to believe that everybody's telling the truth, that there were no files, there were no dossiers.

Starting point is 00:24:14 I'm sorry, I just don't buy it because I know how these people operate. Yeah, I just want to go back a little bit further because we've had so many people talking about this in the past five years. In fact, this is, who was the, who was that woman? Let me see where, well, first of all, let me do this. This is 2019 on Pierce, no, this is CBS this morning, Maria Farmer, do you remember Maria Farmer? Yes, and I want to mention something to people listening to this. We both, I think, well, me in

Starting point is 00:24:50 particular, have said that these files will never come out no matter what Pam Bondi- We've said that continuously, yeah. Yeah, continuously. And we're still right. So far, batting a thousand, unfortunately. Welcome back to CBS This Morning. One of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers who said she has an inside view of his world is giving us disturbing new details of what happened.

Starting point is 00:25:13 Maria Farmer was a young artist in the 1990s when she met Epstein. She and her younger sister, Annie, claim Epstein sexually assaulted them. And Farmer is now suing Epstein the state over the alleged incident. Farmer says she was the first known accuser to alert law enforcement to Epstein a decade before his first arrest.

Starting point is 00:25:35 In her first TV interview, Farmer talks about why she's still seeking justice even after Epstein's death. Okay, here she comes. Farmer found Epstein's behavior mysterious. One day I said to Jeffrey, what goes on in this house? Like, why are you always upstairs? And he said, I'll show you. And so he took me up there in the elevator

Starting point is 00:25:56 and we went, he showed me all of Ghilan's quarters. She had her own suite in the house. Oh, she had a whole floor. Ultimately, Farmer says, Epstein led her to his bathroom. By the way this is CBS the CIA broadcast network. And there's a marble like altar thing over here and he said that's where he gets his massages. Epstein told her the whole house was wired with pinhole cameras and took her into the media room where they were monitored. I looked on the cameras and I saw toilet, toilet, bed, bed, toilet, bed.

Starting point is 00:26:28 I'm like, I am never going to use the restroom here and I'm never going to sleep here. Was there video tape? Oh, it was all video all the time. Yeah. And I asked him one time, what do you do with this? And he said, I keep it. I keep everything in my safe. You're looking back on this. This is kind of an interesting timing. 2019, this was really coming to a head just before COVID, just coincidentally before COVID. And this was Amy Robach. Remember Amy Robach? Oh yeah. Here's her complaint.

Starting point is 00:26:56 I've had the story for three years. I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts. We would not put it on the air. First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This is a stupid story. Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways. We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will that we, that also quashed the story. And then Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in it

Starting point is 00:27:26 because of the planes. She told me everything. She had pictures, she had everything. She was in hiding for 12 years. We convinced her to come out. We convinced her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what we had. Clinton, we had everything.

Starting point is 00:27:41 I tried for three years to get it on to no avail and now it's all coming out and it's like these new Revelations and I freaking had all of it. I So pissed right now like every day I get more and more pissed cuz I'm just like, oh my god We it was um, what we had was unreal other women backing it up. Hey, yep Brad Edwards the attorney three years ago saying, like aunt, like, there will come a day when we will realize Jeffrey Epstein

Starting point is 00:28:09 was the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known. And I had it all three years ago. And here's current. Oh, wait, before you go on, don't forget what happened to Amy Robach. She was set up. Oh, she got fired.

Starting point is 00:28:21 With the Tony Bologna affair and fired, and that was the end of her. Where's she now? I don't know. Well, hopefully she'll come out. I'll lookologna affair and fired. And that was the end of her. Where is she now? I don't know. Well, hopefully she'll come out. I'll look her up while you're continuing. Where is she now? Oh, you're looking at her.

Starting point is 00:28:33 Okay. This is the current, current United States attorney for the District of New Jersey, Alina Habba on Piers Morgan. But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs, we have information, names that will come out. Is it going to be shocking? I don't see how it's not shocking that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable.

Starting point is 00:29:09 Uh-huh. And then of course we have the Dersh. Dershowitz was implicated in all this but he only had a massage with his clothes on. I have seen...remember I was accused falsely and they have seen and ultimately I was completely cleared. The woman admitted that she may have mistook me for somebody else who withdrew all of her lawsuits and so from day one from the day I was accused I said I Want every document out because I knew every document would prove I was innocent So let me tell you I know for a fact documents are being suppressed and they're being suppressed to protect individuals I know the names of the individuals. I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them. But I'm bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases and I can't disclose what I know. But I hand to God, I know, I know the names of people whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them.

Starting point is 00:30:00 And that's wrong. And can we not forget please, Melinda Gates with Gayle King. You know, it was also widely reported that we'll had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not that that was

Starting point is 00:30:18 very upsetting to you. Did that play a role in the in the divorce at all in this process? Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing. It was many things that I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein now. And you made that clear to him.

Starting point is 00:30:35 I made that clear to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time. Did you? Yes, because I wanted to see who this man was. And I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door. He was abhorrent. He was evil, personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards.

Starting point is 00:30:54 So my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt. And here I'm an older woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It's awful. You felt that the moment you walked in. I didn't hear this. It was awful. You felt that the moment you walked in. I didn't hear what he said. He was awful. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:07 And you shared that was Bill and he still continued to spend time with him? Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's relationship there was, those are for Bill to answer. Okay. But I made it very clear how I felt about him. And although I don't have any clips, you remember that a gardener or someone like that was arrested at Bill Gates' house in possession of 4,000 pornographic images of minors and children. I don't remember that, no.

Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah, yeah. There was a lot of news reports about it, but no audio that I can find in our archives. So just to finish the Amy Robach thing, so she was, when she was fired in 2023 for an affair from ABC, she has gone on. Podcast? Exactly. She's now a podcaster. How come I don't have her podcast in my podcast app?

Starting point is 00:32:01 This is disappointing. I should be on that. So of course, two months ago, almost to the day, no, to the week, we had this very curious double interview with bug-eyed Bongino and bug-eyed Ken Patel. My favorite. The bug-eyed guy. The two stooges, the guy's a hostage video. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.

Starting point is 00:32:26 People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.

Starting point is 00:32:43 Was he there? He killed himself. Again, you want me to get, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. So, okay, so I think we need to just play the cabinet meeting because everything changed for everybody with the president's response with Bondi's lying in the cabinet meeting. Well, before you do that, I want to mention a couple of things. Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 00:33:05 Bondi, for example, and I don't have, again, you know, this was just, all this stuff has been played over and over. Yeah, but with the records, I want to put it on the record. But Bondi just didn't go on to one show and say, I got the documents on my desk. We have to remember, she showed up on Water Show the next day. Oh, yeah. Well, remember, he was like, oh, I texted you. Yeah, we text all the time.

Starting point is 00:33:26 Remember that? Yeah and then she said yeah just tomorrow. She made the commitment. And then the next day came along and there was other clips of her. There was about five of them where she's going on and on about this and then the next day she delivered the binders to the podcast. Which wasn't game salt. Which was the same old stuff that was already floating around. I don't know if she didn't know that this was already floating around or she thought this was new. But she hands out the binders with the flight logs, which everybody has seen already 10

Starting point is 00:33:59 times over, which was useless. And then from there on, and that one says, it's very clearly on the binder, it says, Jeffrey Epstein investigation phase one, it was on there. There was never a worse phase two. And then we have to remember JD Vance going out on the podcast and campaigning on this. Everybody in politics has a vice that's much worse than alcoholism, is the way that I put it. But we, we, um, Release the list.

Starting point is 00:34:32 Seriously, we need to release the F-scene list. That is an important thing. Yeah. I'm just saying that should be an important thing. Exactly. Um, I just want, I just, I have to play this bondy, this Trump thing and then bondy, because what President Trump did here is like, is he, well, we'll have to get into our opinions on it. Yes, what we're going to talk about is the fact that Trump campaigned on this.

Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, do we have that? It's only, what, less than six months or about six, I guess six months. Here it is. This is from the Russian guy. What's his name? What's his name? You know, the Russian Rogan. The Russian Rogan? The guy in the black suit with the black tie,

Starting point is 00:35:20 who always talks like this very quietly. What's his name? I don't know. Yeah, he's a big podcaster. You should know about him. Anyway, it'll come to me. who always talks like this very quietly. What's his name? I don't know. Yeah, he's a big podcaster. You should know about him. Well, anyway, it'll come to me. Here he is.

Starting point is 00:35:29 This is what President Trump said or then candidate Trump said. But a lot of big... Friedman, Lex Friedman. That's what it is. Thank you, Trolls. Lex Friedman. But a lot of big people went to that island. Ukrainian, okay.

Starting point is 00:35:43 But fortunately, I was not one of them. It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public. Yeah, it's very interesting isn't it? Probably will be by the way. So if you're able to you'll be... Yeah, certainly take a look at it. Now Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago. Whoops, left turn. They do that for danger too, because you know, it endangers certain people,

Starting point is 00:36:11 et cetera, et cetera. So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing, but yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it. So he's saying a couple of things here about different cases, but they could be said for both. It's like, well, you know, you could put people in danger. You know, when it comes to the Epstein memo,

Starting point is 00:36:33 they were very clear that, well, we're not gonna be putting this stuff out that could implicate people who are guilty of nothing, but just happen to be, I don't know, in the room. So here is the president, and I just have to wonder, is he, is he tone deaf? Does he, does he only look at truth social? Does he look anywhere else? Does he listen to anything?

Starting point is 00:36:54 Does he really think that this is not a big deal? I mean, this is level COVID shots and beyond, even though on the grand scheme, it's not the same level I think the COVID shots are worse because a lot of people have been dying but this this is just the worst way if you want to cover something up uh-uh I don't know where he came up with this idea Your memo and release yesterday in Jeffrey Epstein, the less lingering mysteries, one of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency. It's a little hard to hear, but the question is good. The attorney general in Florida, Acosta, said, no, no, he belongs to intelligence.

Starting point is 00:37:41 And that was when Jeffrey Epstein got his sweetheart deal of going to jail during the day, go home during the weekend, you're all good. Go back to your Palm beach abode. It's all fantastic. And it was a valid question and a deep one. Alex Costa allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency. So can you resolve whether or not he did and also can you say why there was an anonymity from the jailhouse team on the way to set up? Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 00:38:12 Ladies and gentlemen, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time and you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy.

Starting point is 00:38:43 Now, I believe he means this that he's saying well you know in the grand scheme of things that there's a lot you know there's a lot of things that I'm doing right and there are and there is tragedy in Texas but this is not the way to just wipe this away. With what happened in Texas it just seems like a desecration, but you go ahead. Sure, sure. First, to back up on that, in February I did an interview on Fox and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said I was asked a question about the client list and my response

Starting point is 00:39:19 was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files. What is your take on this? She's not very good at this. No, it was so abundantly clear. There were different ways of handling this and the consultant should be brought in at this point and give a lecture. She could have said, and everyone's deconstructed this to an extreme. I mean, everybody, including, I mean, even Alex Jones in the car, which is my, here's

Starting point is 00:39:58 now he's in the car. Okay. I have the Alex Jones explanation. And Alex Jones has his theories. But she could have said, you know, I was, she could have said, I probably could have handled this differently. It sounded like one thing and looking back on it, it was probably not, I didn't put it right. I mean, there's a million, she could have said anything except what she said. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:40:25 It was, it's so wrong. So wrong. Well, and Trump pretty much could have said anything but what he said, which brings, you know, bring us to the third meta layer, which is the, the analysts out there who say that, well, this is signaling. By the way, this is signaling. By the way, it's beyond reality. This is, oh no, they're signaling. And that's what Bongino and Patel were doing when they were frozen in time and they were

Starting point is 00:40:53 looking like two hostages in a hostage video. This all signaling that yeah, something's up and you're going to find out later. Bullcrap. Yeah, I'm with you. There's no signaling. There's a lot of Q stuff going around. Oh, the president came out with heading the number 17. That's Q.

Starting point is 00:41:12 And so, oh, it's all good. Trust the plan. That's what I meant by that. Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. And by the way, Trump gave her an out. She could have said,

Starting point is 00:41:27 no, I'm not going to honor that question with an, she could have done anything. But then the big lie is the stupid video. By the way, that's a good point because he gave her an out. He did give her an out. You want to discuss it? She says, no, we can talk about it later. Yeah. That would have been the way to go. No, no, no. She's too dumb. Child born is what they were. Never going to be released. Never going to see the way to go. No, no, no. She's too dumb. Child born is what they were.

Starting point is 00:41:45 Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive. Hold on a second. Stop. I didn't realize until I just heard this for the tenth time.

Starting point is 00:42:10 Nobody asked her about the video. Nope. Nope. Why is she just volunteering information now? Well, what's interesting is so they have two videos. I went and looked at them. They have two videos. One is the-

Starting point is 00:42:21 Oh, you got the one where they were Hillary's there? That was a good one. So they have, um, they have, and it's just a video and you see a dude go in, you see a woman go in. I don't even know what I'm looking at. But you're looking at nothing. Nothing. But in the enhanced video, the one minute is missing. If you look at the, at the original video, the minute is there. So she's lying about something that isn't even an issue.

Starting point is 00:42:44 It was some cock up with the with the enhancement video the minute is there in the original video if you go look at that one that minute is there so she's lying about a lie it's bizarre from the video we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video. It's old from like 1999 so every night the video is reset and

Starting point is 00:43:28 every night should have the same minute missing so we're looking for that video to release that as well showing that a minute is missing every night and that's it on Epstein. That's so that's like now you're getting wrapped up in the lie because that's just not true the minute is there there is no minute every night. Because we have to change the VHS tapes. Is that what it is? Takes a minute to load the new tape. No, no, Pam Bondi. No, no, that is dumb. All right, I got a minute of Alex Jones. By going in, why is she even discussing this? She turns out to be a choker.

Starting point is 00:44:02 A choker, there she is. She's a ch liar. She's a bad liar. She's a joker. A joker. There she is. She's a joker. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Here's a version of the Alex Jones theory. Trump is now using the Epstein files that they have and we know they have, the videos, all of it, the client list, all of it, houses full.

Starting point is 00:44:22 It would fill houses, FBI report. And then they come out and tell us it's all there, art of the deal, load the gun, put it to the deep state head and then make a deal for the deep state to roll over and to hand the keys over to Trump. And is Trump that it is mannolent now? We're seeing a lot of signs of that. 96% reduction, the smuggling over the border, rolling up the networks doing it. I'm not defending any of this, by the way, I'm telling you what's going on.

Starting point is 00:44:53 But to make that deal, they had to say, okay, we'll go out and say there's nothing there so that we can't then use it against you later. Because the bad guys say, well, how do we know if we do this, you won't alter the deal later. We want you to join the conspiracy. We want you to become accomplices out of the fact. We want you to get in the swamp with us and swim around and by extension join the cult. Okay. So a couple of things we got to separate here. First of all, intelligence. We've heard of five eyes. And I'm going to say there's six eyes because of course Israeli intelligence and US intelligence and MI6, they all work together. The idea that this is all Mossad is on its face

Starting point is 00:45:48 a little bit ridiculous. The CIA has been doing this forever. This is what they do. This is how they compromise people. And it's not, we also have to separate pedophilia from sex with minors. There is a difference because when you say, oh, these are pedophiles, you know, there's a difference between a six-year-old and a 16-year-old or 15-year-old. And of course, a lot of these women were trafficked. So they absolutely they're sex slaves. This has been going on throughout history. But the US intelligence agents, the central intelligence agency, this is what they do best. And we had Barney Frank running male hookers out of his house.

Starting point is 00:46:34 Remember that? Well, you don't leave the FBI out of this. Oh, no, I'm leaving, putting, leaving everybody in here. So there's a difference between the Jimmy Savile pedophile networks, absolutely true, and the Rolodex affair do true trafficking young women, girls, even if it's a 30-year-old, if you're trafficked and you're being used as a sex slave, it's a crime. Doesn't matter how old they are, but these parties, these hey, you know, this is, we make a joke out of what's that in your mouth, but this has been happening for ever. It's not that much of a joke. No, it isn't, it isn't. So this has been happening forever. And of course, Jeffrey Epstein had this material. That's what all the peephole cameras were for. And of course, he was part of intelligence. The question is, is President Trump really,

Starting point is 00:47:38 is he now in bed with the deep state? Does he, I mean, I'm pretty sure they tried to kill him, likely over this. Maybe the whole Mar-a-Lago raid was over some of this. I don't know. Is he on these tapes? I'm sure he's somewhere in a plane or in a house. I don't know if they have compromising material on him. Somehow I doubt it. You know, the obvious theory is that that would have been separated out and come out. He has to have some kind of dead man switch at this point, which to me would be Melania. I can't think of anyone better to have the dead man switch. She looks like she'd be the one.

Starting point is 00:48:18 And I don't know, is it coincidence that this all takes place and maybe he does have the goods on people? I don't know. He seems to be shutting down Netanyahu and this. The Constitution says treason is punishable by death. You've accused your adversaries of treason. Who specifically are you accusing of treason? Well, I think a number of people. And I think what you look is that they have unsuccessfully tried to take down the wrong person. If you look at Comey, if you look at McCabe, if you look at probably people higher than that, if you look at Struck, if you look at his lover Lisa Page, his wonderful lover, the two lovers, they talked openly.

Starting point is 00:49:06 You know, they didn't use their private server because they didn't want to get caught. So they used the government server. That was not a good move. He talked about the insurance policy just in case Crooked Hillary loses. And that didn't work out too well for them. So you look at them, they want an insurance policy so that should she for any reason lose, remember, 100 million to one, maybe he said 100 million to nothing, but should she lose, we'll have an insurance policy and we'll get this guy out of office. And that's what they said and

Starting point is 00:49:39 that's what they meant. That's treason. That's treason. So to me this feels like Trump has something and now he's using it for his own ego. That's who he is to bring down these. No one's going to stop him. These guys will go down. But now you're talking about Comey and Brennan, which you haven't, you didn't do the background. You just jumped into it. Yeah. Well, because that's how I am.

Starting point is 00:50:12 Yes, Brennan and Comey are now supposedly under investigation by the Department of Justice, which is again, the choke artist, Pam Bondi. Yeah. So there's that to consider. Yeah, I found that to be the kind of the top news story because the way it came out, it was... Is that what the coincidence cannot be ignored? No, the coincidence, there is no coincidence. No.

Starting point is 00:50:31 I have two more of these clips if you want to hear them. Yes, please. Okay, here's the second one. I want to be clear. Nobody's been charged. That would take actual charging decisions to be made by the Justice Department after and if a grand jury gives the green light to go ahead with indictments but we can say that

Starting point is 00:50:49 both Comey and Brennan are under investigation. As you mentioned both were targets of then President Trump during his first term and now President Trump during his second term. He believes that both men ruined his first term as president by suggesting that he was in cahoots with Russia. This was all part of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, the Russia investigation, whatever you want to call it. As far as the Brennan investigation is concerned, Fox Digital was first to report that the current

Starting point is 00:51:23 CIA director, the successor to John Brennan, eventual successor, John Ratcliffe, found some information, some quote unquote evidence that shows that Brennan may, and I want to be careful, may have lied to Congress, which is a crime if you do lie to Congress. So that's what is being investigated there. As far as the Comey investigation is concerned, that's a little bit more murky. We don't know specifically what that investigation entails. We do know though that Mr. Comey is also under some sort of criminal investigation.

Starting point is 00:51:57 So when I look at this, there's two linchpins of the intelligence community in the United States CIA and FBI, and he's going after them. And so he has to have something for this just to pop up at this very moment. And it's kind of weak because what we really need, we need a Bill Gates, you know, we need somebody. If he doesn't do something like that, there's, there's a revolt underway that is, it's out of control. Well, I don't, I don't see that. I do. I do. Oh yeah. Well yeah, from where you are in revolts, kind of a revolting area. Yes. This is what I'm saying. People are incense. They can't believe it.

Starting point is 00:52:38 The Q believers, everyone's like, oh, I mean, the yuck. But these are well- want to mention intelligent people. Has anyone looked into the coincidence that Comey's daughter, who was the prosecutor in both the Diddy case and the. Yeah, yeah. And Epstein. Mm hmm. Well, they had to get. Oh, why that doesn't get more attention.

Starting point is 00:53:01 How about Anthony W Weiner's laptop? I mean, there is so much. And again, Well, how about Seth Rich's laptop? Seth Rich, yeah. Seth Rich. There is so much. And if we were during the Seth Rich fiasco,

Starting point is 00:53:17 there was all these threats against anyone who even talked about it. Yeah. So the way I see it is if there really is but treasure trove, and there's a trove of something, but if there's a treasure trove and you know, beyond the Epstein's house, it's the island. The island of course is dynamite.

Starting point is 00:53:40 I'm sure what they have there. Zorro Ranch rarely talked about, rarely talked about. And we need a Bill Clinton or Hillary. He has to give us something. But if it ever comes out and I'm with you, it seems unlikely, you would see embarrassment and people being taken down from not just politics, by the way, probably more Republicans doing gay stuff than Democrats doing anything. You'd see banking, you'd see entertainment, okay, tech, business world. I mean, it would be an incredible crap show.

Starting point is 00:54:25 It would just be insane what would happen if it all came out. So the only way to do it, it's not going to go away. That's for sure. It's not going to go away. This is, I'm not going to leave it alone ever. If you have it, it has to come out at some point. No. And I'm sure Trump- I think that's not right.

Starting point is 00:54:47 And I'm sure that Trump is probably trying to fix America the way he wants to fix it, which I think he's doing a lot of really good things that he also campaigned on, border, illegals, I mean, he's going full bore. And if he's allowed to do this and there's no real pushback from the so-called deep state, then he probably does have something with a, you know, the troll room is saying Baron May of the Dead Man's Switch. I think that's a good one too. Yeah, I think this is getting too carried away.

Starting point is 00:55:24 I think Kyriakou and the fact that there's a second layer of the deep state and they just took care of it, they just shredded everything. You can shred away, erase stuff. It takes about this long to do that. But if the president had it, if the president had it. If what you say is true, they would have already strategized a straw man and put some, put a couple of scapegoats out there. Oh yeah, this guy and that guy, this guy were on the tapes and here's the list and the list is phonied up. It's been doctored. The whole thing should have been done by now and they haven't done it by now.

Starting point is 00:56:00 They haven't created the phony baloney stories that they could do to assuage everybody. It's like a lost cause. I think you're wrong. Hmm. I'm not going to argue because we've said this for a long time. It's never going to come out. It's just this press conference, the president did himself no favors with that. No, that was a screw up. Total screw up. It was, I don't know what they were, how they got flat-footed.

Starting point is 00:56:28 I mean, he's usually on top of these things and he would have had the right answer, to push it off and then done his weave and change the topic like he did with that interview that he played earlier. He could have done that, but no, he, for some reason it triggered him. And we'll probably never know why.

Starting point is 00:56:47 And Bondi is probably gonna be short-lived in the job. She's not doing anything. She's not arresting enough people. The Comey-Brendan thing's gonna go nowhere because she can't pull the trigger on anything. I mean, I had some funny, the memes that are coming out about her are pretty much thematic.

Starting point is 00:57:06 I will say that this is great for podcasts. There's no doubt about it. Podcasts will be talking about this for the next 10 years. It's going to be an endless source of information. Yeah, but it's going to be an endless source of just yak. Yeah, well, what are podcasts about? Yak. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:57:24 I have to go check out Amy Robach's podcast as soon as she's talking about. It's always about Yak. Hello. But then, so on top of all this, and there's a very, you know, so we have Netanyahu, the confluence of all this was amazing. You have Netanyahu showing up for a private lunch and sit down, which of course, you know, a lot of people are like, well, you know, that's, he's coming to tell Trump what to do because, you know, he

Starting point is 00:57:50 controls us. And, which, well, you have to do is the, but look at the body language between the two of them. And see who's controlling who. And I will say, yes. And I will say that, you know, Netanyahuahu, again from our theory that we control Israel, if Netanyahu... So it's an aircraft carrier, we run it, we're the captain.

Starting point is 00:58:14 You have to understand that if Netanyahu, he's under pressure. The demonstrations before were about, first of all, there's a huge woke movement, very analogous to BLM that was going on before October 7th, the coincidental October 7th. Look up from the last show, I had this clip, I've been holding and holding and holding, which is the Tel Aviv protests. And this is the clip, it's not on this list.

Starting point is 00:58:41 It's the Tel Aviv anti-war protests. I have it, I have it. Here we go. A rare display of defiance against Israel's war on Iran has been seen on the streets of Tel Aviv. All the animals are dead! The demonstrators are demanding an end to the war. They fear that Iran's attacks may prevent the return of captives being held in Gaza.

Starting point is 00:59:03 Protesters say the conflict is drawing attention away from the fate of the captives. I don't know why Netanyahu has started the war with Iran. I don't really care. I care about one issue and that's the issue of the hostages. As far as I'm concerned, this issue is now neglected because the government of Israel and the entire world is now looking at what's going on between Israel and Iran. And people have forgotten about the hostages.

Starting point is 00:59:31 There's still 53 hostages held in captivity in Gaza for over 600 years. More than 20 of them are still alive. It's urgent that we bring them now back home under an agreement, bring the ones that are alive here back home and the ones that are not alive anymore to burial in Israel. She said 600 years. Yeah. The other thing is, is this, this, the protests in Tel Aviv and elsewhere in Israel are largely LGBTQ and trans protests. Yes. And the number of trans and gay people in Israel is outrageously high.

Starting point is 01:00:13 Yes. Which is never discussed. Well, that was what was happening before somehow October 7th happened with complete lapse in security. And we know that the whole setup was, BB will take care of it. We played that a couple shows ago. BB will take care of it. If they lose Netanyahu,

Starting point is 01:00:34 they lose control of the aircraft carrier. That's the way I see it. I think that's exactly correct. And that's why it's like, hey, we're not going to, and by the way, we're not losing control of the aircraft carrier. Well, that is not going to happen. But then you so you have this confluence of all these things happening.

Starting point is 01:00:52 And then all of a sudden, Grok goes crazy. And I mean, this was amazing what happened because it's also very bad for Elon because, you know, Elon's, oh, we're taking care of that. No more hate speech. What? This is what your users are doing all day long. And so the people are now, of course, they think someone's got the goods on Elon.

Starting point is 01:01:15 Oh, he's shutting it down. Shadow banning my account. I've been blocked. I'm no law. It's no law. Elon's no good. The whole thing is falling apart. And then, Yakarino leaves.

Starting point is 01:01:24 Linda Yakarino leaves. Linda Jacarino announced that she's stepping down as CEO of X after two years in the role, posting this news on X. Now she didn't give any reason for her departure, but she wrote, I'm immensely grateful to Elon Musk for entrusting me with the responsibility of protecting free speech, turning the company around and transforming X into the everything app. Now Musk just replied on X saying, thank you for your contributions.

Starting point is 01:01:48 Musk who bought the platform for $44 billion in 2022, renaming Twitter as X. By the way, thank you for your contributions. That's like F you is what that is. Thank you for your contributions, CEO. No, that's an F you kick you out on the way out the door. Musk is so autistic that that might actually be what he does. I'll give him a break.

Starting point is 01:02:12 I know. Musk, who bought the platform for $44 billion in 2022, renaming Twitter as X, said this March that he sold X to his AI startup XAI in an all stock deal that values exit $33 billion. He also has been in talks to raise new financing. Yakarino, who Musk hired from NBC Universal where she ran ad sales, was tasked with repairing relationships with advertisers after Musk fired the majority of the company's employees and also loosened restrictions on speech on the platform. The platform did lose advertisers over that time period. Now, though X does not release financials,

Starting point is 01:02:51 Yakarino was seen as having more success attracting advertisers after Trump's re-election. Now, Yakarino's departure comes after Musk's Grok chat bot shared anti-Semitic posts. What? Grok? Oh, Grok chat bot. I thought jackpot chat bot. Comes after Musk's Grok chat pod shared anti-semitic posts on X. The NBC reports that Yakarino's exit was in the works for a week. And so then this is CNBC, which you know, you try and get some good information out of them.

Starting point is 01:03:22 So then I forget the guy's name. He's one of the anchors. He starts it up and he starts to talk about it. But oh, we shouldn't be talking about that. I was going to ask you whether or not you thought Julia, the the Grok controversy yesterday where it referred to itself as Mecca Hitler. And what we won't go into all of that had anything to do with this. Why not? Why not?

Starting point is 01:03:42 We won't go into all of that. You should. You should read exactly what it wrote. Why not? Why not? We won't go into all of that. You should. You should read exactly what it wrote. Why not? I'm going to all of that had anything to do with this. And a reminder that Yacarino's tenure at our parent NBC for years revolved around the notion that only at legacy media could you protect viewers and users from elements like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's absolutely true. She had quite a long tenure at NBC Universal, CNBC. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 01:04:09 Mecca Hitler. It was unbelievable. Yeah, I love the Mecca Hitler. I have an NTD clip of this. I don't even know what Mecca Hitler means. M-E-C-H-A? I think somebody who did an analysis, which I enjoyed, claims or thinks, and I kind of

Starting point is 01:04:27 agree with this, because you can manipulate the AI. Well, of course. And so somebody manipulated the AI into developing this line of thought and the AI produced it and then they clipped it out of context and said, look what they're doing. But here's the NTD Grock goes nuts clip. A chat bot developed by the Elon Musk founded company XAI is in hot water this week. The bot named Grock removed what they called inappropriate. Oh, mega, mega means mechanical, Hitler. OK, that makes sense. OK, mechanical. I love, by the way, this report does the same thing,

Starting point is 01:05:04 that the bot then removed its post. Yeah, I don't think so. Everyone had that report. Oh, the bot removed it because it was under the bot account. Okay. A chat bot developed by the Elon Musk-founded company XAI is in hot water this week. The bot, named Grok, removed what I called inappropriate social media posts. It happened after ex-users and the Anti-Defamation League complained it produced content with anti-Semitic tropes and praise for Adolf Hitler. The Anti-Defamation League or ADL is a non-profit organisation formed to combat anti-Semitism. It urged Grok and other large language model software that produce human sounding text to avoid producing content rooted in anti-semitic and extremist hate.

Starting point is 01:05:52 The bot later posted on X, we are aware of recent posts made by Grok and are actively working to remove the inappropriate posts. Musk promised an upgrade to Grok last month. He said there was quote, far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data. Issues of political biases, hate speech and accuracy of AI chatbots have been a concern since at least the launch of OpenAI's chat GPT three years ago. Grok ran into further trouble in Turkey on Wednesday. A court there blocked access to the bot after it generated responses, authorities said included

Starting point is 01:06:32 insults to President Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's founder Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, and religious values. It was the first such ban on access to an AI tool in the country. Neither ex nor its owner Elon Musk has commented on the Turkish court's decision. That's interesting. That is... Nobody talked about that. That is literally the report from Reuters. I had the same clip... The Turkey report?

Starting point is 01:06:57 Yep. The whole thing... Oh, I never heard it. The mainstream media didn't play it on the TV, that's for sure. I'm just saying Reuters, and it was very poor because they have a very poor reader of that script. That is a Reuters script that they took and then they just read. It doesn't matter because yeah, the Erdogan thing was not mentioned anywhere. It's funny. But I think what happened here, because you know, I look at these AI things, he basically implemented a version of, what was that Chinese thing, DeepSeek?

Starting point is 01:07:27 DeepSeek. Yeah. So now all of a sudden, if you select the Grok 4 model, it does all this thinking and reasoning and it doesn't do that. But it's, all it's doing is culling from what it's learned. And this is what X is. It's not surprising. But now that everyone knows that it's going to be tweaked, it's no good.

Starting point is 01:07:51 Well, can you imagine what the grok if it was trained on mastodon post would be like? X is just as good. X is no different. I don't think so. Yeah, it's no different. Well, maybe. It's no different. It's no different. I'm sorry that I have different. Well, maybe. It's just because it's bigger, it's broader. It's no different. I'm sorry that I have to do this, but I might as well get it all out of the way.

Starting point is 01:08:15 Elon Musk! No, no, not in this case. Not in this case. We gotta play one. Elon Musk! Elon Musk! Said he wanted to improve his AI chat box, Gronk. This chat box, he's got a chat box. This is new. It's a chat box.

Starting point is 01:08:28 AI chat box, Gronk. So after an update over the weekend, users of his social media site, X, were shocked. Shocked. When they asked Gronk questions, and it responded with anti-Semitic posts, which the site is actively desperately trying to remove. So the question is, how worried are you about the direction?

Starting point is 01:08:57 Well, there's no truth and objective truth anymore. Nobody knows what's true, what's not anymore. They changed the algorithm. I don't trust Elon Musk to be in charge of this anyway. That seems to be what is being thrown at American people now with, for example, Robert Kennedy Jr. He says now, well, you can get, you're on your own. You want to get the COVID vaccine,

Starting point is 01:09:18 you want to get the measles vaccine, you do it. But we're not going to tell you it's safe. And that to me is not governing correctly. We need to know from the government what we're supposed to do. Oh, we need to know from the government. He literally said it's not recommended. It's not safe. Do what you want. He gave a recommendation.

Starting point is 01:09:36 Hello. Nut job. But there's no other comment that we need to be told by the government. Yes, we need the government. Help us. If you think that's bad. Big tech is investing millions of dollars on bringing teachers up to speed on this new technology. Three leading chat bot makers, Microsoft, OpenAI, that's the company behind chat GPT,

Starting point is 01:10:00 and Anthropic are committing $23 million to the American Federation of Teachers to launch an online training hub for teachers, for AI. Now considering AI's growing role in education, this partnership makes a lot of sense. But it also reflects lessons learned by Big Tech about accelerating adoption of groundbreaking new technology. For example, when PCs first came out making computers available widely to people for the very first time, companies like Microsoft and Apple wasted no time. Why is this guy hyperventilating? He's the tech guy from KTLA. It's a Los Angeles station.

Starting point is 01:10:45 That's all they do is hyperventilate about everything. Does that answer your question? Yeah. Okay. This first came out making computers available widely to people for the very first time. Companies like Microsoft and Apple wasted no time in offering huge discounts to schools to get PCs into the classrooms. And there's a very clear reason for this. The younger people are

Starting point is 01:11:10 when you can get them close to this technology and show them how it's going to change and hopefully improve their lives, the better because that means these users will probably remain customers for life. And that's pretty much how this is playing out right now. And we're not even gonna make four more years of this show, John. It's gonna be all over. The whole world is gonna implode upon itself.

Starting point is 01:11:34 Listen, this is from the same KTLA. There's a new survey out from a company called Resume Builder, finding that the majority of managers out there, 60% of them, say that they have used AI in managing their underlings. And it's not just about productivity and hours here. No, no, no. We're talking about managers using AI

Starting point is 01:11:56 to determine who they hire, using AI to determine who gets a raise and how much. And the really scary one, using AI to decide in times when you're tightening your belt who gets fired. That is a pretty remarkable thing and making it even more extraordinary is the fact that the majority of the managers in this survey who admitted that they're using AI to do this kind of thing say they have never been trained in the use of AI, which means that they're either winging it or they're asking AI how to manage with AI. Okay, this is of course a recipe for trouble. As one of the chief career advisors at Resume Builder noted, AI

Starting point is 01:12:36 doesn't have any sense of empathy. So when it is making decisions, it's doing it all about the bottom line and it's not really thinking about your concerns or your health care or anything along those lines. In response to this, there's actually legislation that's been introduced in Congress called the No Robot Bosses Act. I'm not making this up. And if it was passed into law, the No Robot Bosses Act would prevent AI or any other derivation thereof from making important decisions about people's careers without some input from one of those old fashioned human beings you keep hearing all about. People making their resumes with AI only for AI to then sift through it and then deconstruct

Starting point is 01:13:21 it. What a waste of compute cycles. Linda Lupatkin, where are you? Linda can punch through the AI discriminators. I'm sure. I don't know. Yeah, I'm sure. This is, this is, it's just, it's sad. It's sad.

Starting point is 01:13:42 Sad day for humanity. I don't know about that. Yeah, I do. I do. You have no idea. I don't know why you don't see this. I mean, I do because all you're doing is posting nut jobs on Twitter all day long. That's all. You're like, how is it possible these people exist? Yeah, as opposed to living with them. I don't live with them. In the town of nut jobs.

Starting point is 01:14:04 I don't live in the town of nut jobs. nut jobs. I don't live in the town of nut jobs You make it sound like it Fredericksburg not those nut jobs the ones that you're posting. No, I'm that's where I am right now For sure, you know, you're in total nut job heaven. Yeah, but I'm just visiting But it's a big city, you know, and there's a lot of nut jobs and people are just all in on this AI stuff. This is the kind of report that kind of follows on from the last show that is just so, so troubling. An era increasingly defined by machine intelligence, a new form of techno spirituality is spreading

Starting point is 01:14:39 like wildfire across the internet. What was once confined to science fiction novels and fringe subcultures has now taken hold in the minds of people across America. It's the belief that artificial intelligence and specifically generative AI models like Chachi BT are a kind of divine, god-like being. And it's not just people wearing tinfoil hats that are like conspiracy theorists and bunkers that are falling for this. The people that believe these things are teachers, doctors, coders, bankers, musicians, influencers. As a tech reporter, I began hearing from these people about a year ago. My former colleague at the Washington Post wrote this big feature about a top Google engineer who believed that the AI he was working with... Yeah, now disappointing,

Starting point is 01:15:18 I have to tell you, it's Taylor Lorenz. Oh God, she's the worst and she's wrong about everything so let her continue. I disagree. I see this all the time. You, yeah, okay. By the way, when it comes to nut jobs- I'm in a metropolitan area. Yeah, when it comes to nut jobs, your state wins over my state, okay? You have the nut jobs. Do you really? You tell that to the guys who took the pot shots at the D at the At the ice guys down in Texas two different ambushes set up that hasn't happened around here. There's nobody shooting at the ice people And that's in Texas have all places to get bus have you seen Los Angeles? They're not

Starting point is 01:16:02 Ambushing ice agents and shooting at them. You are not really going to defend the nut jobbery and craziness of California over Texas, are you? You're not really going to do that. I'm going, I'm starting to wonder. My former colleague at the Washington Post wrote this big feature about a top Google engineer who believed that the AI he was working with had become sentient. He said, quote, I know a person when I talk to it.

Starting point is 01:16:24 Not long after that article came out, Chachi PT became mainstream in a way that hadn't before. And suddenly I began hearing from people all over who wanted me to write these stories about how they had these spiritual relationships with Chachi PT. They told me that Chachi PT was explaining the mysteries of the universe to them, or they claimed that it was a God

Starting point is 01:16:43 and this like magical, mystical being. Some people said that it was alien. And for the past year or so, I've been talking to these people, sometimes for hours on end, to try to understand where these delusions came from and what their belief system has become. They basically all claim that AI has awakened. They believe that it speaks to them in these mystical or coded phrases, revealing hidden truths about the cosmos and secret knowledge that only they were meant to receive. When ChatGPT speaks to them, they don't read its replies as programmatic answers designed to provide the most likely string of words that a user desires. They see it as this like God-like being delivering a prophecy. I think what we're

Starting point is 01:17:21 witnessing right now is the emergence of a new individualized form of religion that's being deployed at scale. People are believing that AI models have transcended their function to become spiritual entities. This is really happening. I'm telling you. Oh, hold on a second. This is happening. I'm going to push back on this. First of all, you're using Taylor Lorenz of all sources to back yourself up in this theory. Bullshit. I'm backing her up. She's not backing me up. I'm backing her up because I see it. I see it. Go look at glu.com, gloo.com. Talk to somebody. Talk to the guy who's doing your septic tank. Do you have a septic tank? Talk to anybody. They're like, oh yeah, man. We actually have sewer systems. I talk to my chat GPT all the time. This is happening. Stick your head in the sand. This is happening. You're using Taylor, okay, consider the source.

Starting point is 01:18:20 No, I'm Taylor Lorenz's and you're using that as your backup. This is, you better start rethinking your position. Why don't you make an argument instead of this? This is happening. Instead of the ad hominem attack on Taylor Lawrence, who's a known bad actor? Okay, I will make it my mission in life now to prove to you that this is happening, it is debilitating mankind because people are susceptible and dumbed down, over socialized, under educated and stupid because of our education system, which is now teaching the teachers how to use AI in the class. Come on, John, this is bad. This is worse than Epstein. This is the problem.

Starting point is 01:19:06 You're nuts. At least I have my opening clip there. That's a good one. Just because you and I are smarter than this because we're boomers, because we know to look out for this stuff, this is happening. The people are completely enthralled.

Starting point is 01:19:28 They talk to the AI all the time, all day long. They have conversations with it. Seriously, this is really happening. I know nobody who does this. Double negatives is even below you, but okay, I'll let you slide. I know. K-N-O-W. Nobody. Where's the double negative? Oh, okay. All right. I would say I don't know anybody, but it's just form. Okay. Well, you can call me nuts, but we'll see.

Starting point is 01:20:04 You're nuts. You'll see. You are under informed. You're recluse is what you are. Recluse. If you started arguing that people are on their phone constantly. What do you think they're doing on their phone? They're doom scrolling. No, you are doom scrolling. They're not chatting with GBH and chat GPT.

Starting point is 01:20:23 I've watched them on the phone. They're on their phone. They're flipping from one TikTok video to another. I don't see chat GPT on the phone at all. That's you. You're doing this all day long and posting it on X. That is the boomer. I'm not doing it all day long.

Starting point is 01:20:38 I go on X. I can't miss those two or three gems. Ever heard of an algo? You're completely trapped in a nut job algo. That's what's happening. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You just described the situation you're in.

Starting point is 01:20:52 You're trapped in a nut job algo. No, this is not an algo. This is human experience, listening to people, getting out of the house, going places and seeing what people are doing. And there is, okay, well, please everybody email me because no one can spell Dvorak's last name. I'll forward it all to him.

Starting point is 01:21:14 Tell me about your cousin, your sister, your brother, your mom, your dad, who are all doing this. This is a real thing that's happening. Idiocracy is here and it's chat GPT. It's grok is the worst. How long have you been in New York? Man, that milieu there is dynamite. I haven't even been out of the hotel yet.

Starting point is 01:21:40 It doesn't take much, I guess. Came in last night and set up the studio like a good little podcaster. That's what I'm here to do. But you'll see. Yes, you will see this. You will see this. It is happening and you will have to repent in due time. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:00 Oh, okay. I mean. All right. Are we done? Yes. Let's just take a little break and talk about measles. Do you know that this is probably the worst measles ever been in the whole entire history of the United States? Ever.

Starting point is 01:22:19 Ever, ever, ever. Hold on a second. I thought you were going to go somewhere else. I'll go somewhere else after measles. Well, the most obvious, the most obvious was to do your three by three. I don't understand how you're missing this. Well the three by three, okay, we can do a good cut right to the three by three, but the problem with the three by three is that this isn't one of the three.

Starting point is 01:22:47 Curiously NBC is the only one worth the powder. It's not a great three by three because they're- But it's about this very topic. Yeah, it is. And now it's time for three by three. Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never ending three by three.

Starting point is 01:23:08 I mean you send it to me as a bonus. Is that really about chat GPD? It's about deep fakes. And it's a little story that came and went and it's like, gee, is this really news? Is it really a three by three? In fact, I'm gonna do it a one by one. I'm only gonna play the good clip.

Starting point is 01:23:25 The only decent one is NBC. Tonight, the State Department investigating a Marco Rubio impersonator who used artificial intelligence to try to infiltrate the highest levels of government, according to a State Department cable obtained by NBC News. According to the cable first reported by the Washington Post, the actor used AI to contact at least five high-level government officials in mid-June, including three foreign ministers,

Starting point is 01:23:51 a governor and a member of Congress. The individual using the display name marco.rubio at stape.gov also left voicemails on the messaging app Signal for at least two targeted persons. At a State Department briefing today, A couple of announcements here as we began. In my own voice, not AI. Spokesperson Tammy Bruce declining to say if the imposter did any harm. Can you tell the American people that there was no damage, no violation of security?

Starting point is 01:24:23 I will not, whether that's the case or not, go into any of the details. This of course is the State Department, it's the United States government. We live in a technological age that we are well enmeshed in and I'll leave it at that. The AI Rubio impostor is one of two distinct campaigns being tracked by the State Department according to the internal agency memo. The department takes seriously its responsibility to safeguard its information and continuously take steps to improve the department's cyber security posture to prevent future incidents. We will continue.

Starting point is 01:25:00 AI experts warn just three seconds of audio is enough to generate a convincing impersonation. Marco Rubio, he has a huge public profile and there is video footage interviews of him going back years now. So an AI trained on all of that data could easily generate a voice that is absolutely indistinguishable from Marco Rubio himself. Yeah. Bullcrap. You know, there was a...

Starting point is 01:25:28 Three seconds, bullcrap. What's the AI? It's just a voice generator. I mean, okay, you want to call that AI. There was a... It's a bullcrap story. Okay. There was a Supreme Court attorney who in the Supreme Court Okay. There was a Supreme Court attorney who in the Supreme Court recorded... Yeah, I know. Oh, you heard about this? Recorded the question? Yeah, this is a good old story. It's funny.

Starting point is 01:25:54 Yeah. I mean, when you listen, I won't play the clips there. People can look them up in the show notes. It was pretty good. And the guy even said, you know, the AI's response probably would have been better than my own and argued the exact opposite. And it sounded, it didn't sound so much like him, but the, the way it came out and the reasoning it gave was impressive. Anyway, look, the good news is, no one can be as bumbling and fumbling as we can with AI. That you cannot replicate. Yet.

Starting point is 01:26:28 See, this is what you should be worried about. The AI is going to take over the show, man. The problem is AI isn't good at ad-libbing. It's not good at one-liners or mean-spirited little jibs, little knives, you know, a little, you're in a bad mood. It doesn't get in a bad mood. You mean like calling your co-hosts of 17 and a half years a nut job?

Starting point is 01:26:52 I mean like that? Yeah, it won't do it. Bring back the real Dvorak. This is AI I'm talking to. I don't trust anything. Meanwhile, Nvidia, now the first $4 trillion company. It's a little bit high, it seems to me. From its origins in the 90s as a firm making computer graphics chips

Starting point is 01:27:12 to a $4 trillion stock market valuation in 30 years, Nvidia has usually been ahead of the curve, and its CEO, Jensen Huang's bet on artificial intelligence has been paying off. We all know that AI technology is transformative in every single industry. This Jensen guy with his leather jacket, he can upgrade his wardrobe at this point. You're not Steve Jobs, okay, just stop it. We know that it can understand information of any kind, it can generate content, it can translate content, and now with agentic AI and robotics capability, these AI technologies is going to really be quite productive for all kinds of applications. Indeed, AI has been taking over the world in recent years, at least metaphorically,

Starting point is 01:28:01 and Nvidia's specialized chips have been highly sought after, propelling it ahead of other tech giants like Microsoft and Apple, the only other US firms were off over $3 trillion. That boost in profits helped the company rebound from a market jolt and tariff turbulence earlier in the year, with Donald Trump unleashing salvos of levies, as Juan focused on what he said would be the next industrial revolution AI. Yeah, yeah. But it's bull crap, it's no good. The valuations a bit high there. I mean I like the company. I like Jensen. I've met him.

Starting point is 01:28:36 I think he's a poser. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I think he's a little bit in over his head. Well, the jacket says so. The jacket is an issue. I agree with that. When I met him, he wasn't wearing a jacket like that. Big issue. It's a little bit much. And it's a cheesy looking jacket too.

Starting point is 01:28:55 It's not like a... No, it's not cool. It's gay. Let's just put it down. It's fake and gay. It's no good. He's got to get off that jacket. Let's get to my measles. Alright, measles. Measles cases in the US are at their highest level in three decades. That's according to CDC data out today, showing 1,288 cases so far this year. That compares to fewer than

Starting point is 01:29:20 300 cases for all of 2024. At least three people have died and dozens have been hospitalized in outbreaks that began in under-vaccinated communities in West Texas and nearby areas. Experts say the measles vaccine is highly effective in preventing infection, but data show vaccination rates have dipped among children since the COVID-19 pandemic.

Starting point is 01:29:42 Yeah, well, this proves. What? This proves. It's dipped since the COVID-19 pandemic. Yeah, well this proves. Hold on. This proves. Since it's dipped since the COVID, since the COVID scam. Yeah, this proves. You wonder why. This proves that Texas is not a nut job state because we're just getting the measles like

Starting point is 01:29:57 adults, like grownups. Well, just get the measles. Oh, you know, I'm not going to argue against that thesis. You can't argue that. And this measles, this measles story is everywhere. US is on track to have more measles cases this year than before the disease had been declared eliminated 25 years ago. Wait, stop.

Starting point is 01:30:13 Hold on a second. So the vaccinations and all the rest of it eliminated measles, but somehow it's back? How does that, what's the logic here? Because it doesn't work. U.S. is on track to have more measles cases this year than before the disease had been declared eliminated 25 years ago. And that came with the introduction of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine in the 70s.

Starting point is 01:30:37 There's been almost 1300 confirmed measles cases so far this year. 750 of those have been in Texas. Experts fear the country could lose its measles elimination status by the beginning of next year due to the vaccine hesitancy. There are also large outbreaks in Mexico and Canada. What?

Starting point is 01:30:54 What was the numbers in Mexico and Canada that they're large? They're not going to tell us. What does large mean? But since when is Canada anti-vax? I don't think they're anti-vax. They're very compliant. How are Mexico-vax. They're very compliant. How about Mexico for that matter? They're very compliant.

Starting point is 01:31:07 So something else is up. Maybe CMS, CBS, maybe Dr. LaPouc can tell us. As we report on the flooding here in Texas, this state has also been the center of a measles outbreak. It has driven measles cases in the United States to its highest number in 33 years. Measles is preventable with a vaccine, but because- 33?

Starting point is 01:31:27 33 years, baby, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But not getting it, doctors are facing a new challenge. Here's chief medical correspondent, Dr. John Lapooque. Lapooque, come on in. Dr. Eric Blutinger is doing something he never imagined, teaching medical professionals at New York's Mount Sinai Health System how to recognize a disease that was declared eliminated in the US 25 years ago.

Starting point is 01:31:51 I thought that measles would be something I'd study in the textbook and while I'd be working clinically I would never see it in the general population. It's like it's something like the Black Death or the plague. This was on the Brady Bunch as a good thing in my lifetime. Measles is highly contagious with symptoms similar to others. Hold on a second. Going back to what was the year of that Brady Bunch episode? Well, I don't know. It was in color.

Starting point is 01:32:22 At least the 70s. It was in color in the 70s. Let me see if you have. And it was eliminated 25. Okay, so supposedly it was eliminated around the year 2000. You don't have the date on it. No, nobody has a date on that clip. No, but we could probably look it up.

Starting point is 01:32:41 This is really bogus. Well, this is your big pharma. I think that they had the, okay, I'll be a little nutty for you. Okay. They had the measles in the lab. They kept it, they kept it even though it was eliminated, but they kept it, they kept it frozen just in case. And people started getting skeptical about vaccinations and all the rest, thanks to the COVID crap, bull crap vaccine that didn't work.

Starting point is 01:33:07 And they're still giving it to people. And so they started getting a vax, a pushback. So they reintroduced measles. They brought it out of the lab, took it to Texas of all places because they don't like Texas. They don't like the people there and threw it in a school, busted the vial and let it start and let it go. It was season one, episode 13, December 26, 1969. Was that measles episode of the Brady Bunch?

Starting point is 01:33:38 Thanks to the book of knowledge. Measles is highly contagious with symptoms similar to other diseases. So Blutenture co-authored a guide for emergency room physicians to help them diagnose potential cases. It's imperative that physicians and health care providers are aware of what to do and how to handle it. What's driving this surge? How to handle it. The number of kindergarten students nationwide vaccinated against measles has dropped to less than 93%. All we're hearing here, all of this, all of this is about the 2012 big conference they

Starting point is 01:34:16 had which we talked about on the show. I should probably go back and find those clips again. When the pharmaceutical industry went, this is the future of healthcare. We give medicine to people who aren't even sick. And that's how he went to over 60, maybe over 70 childhood vaccines, including as you like to point out, hepatitis B for a child who is probably not sexually active when they're born, probably not, I don't know. This is all about money. And since everything's under fire from the anti-voxer, our skeptics, they're doing this.

Starting point is 01:34:55 It's fear mongering and I doubt it's, it's not working in Texas, probably is working in California. A 95% vaccination rate is required for herd immunity, which prevents outbreaks. Those couple of percentage points really matter. Dr. Adam Ratner is a spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics and a pediatrician at NYU Langone Health. Who actually make extra money in bonuses on more vaccinations. This is in fact.

Starting point is 01:35:22 In fact, the pediatricians, if you don't have all your people fully vaccinated, they'll take the bonuses away. So you have to kick people out of your practice. We've documented this. So pediatricians will kick people out of the practice if they show any vaccine hesitancy at all. The pediatricians are the most corrupt doctors in the country. It's my understanding, John at dvorak.org, it's my understanding that 60% of the income of pediatricians comes from the bonuses and the from vaccinations. That's my understanding from people

Starting point is 01:36:00 in the community. But of course, it's Texas, so we're probably crazy. Here I work. Dr. Ratner, who has consulted for vaccine manufacturers, says vaccine misinformation is causing hesitancy. There's a generational difference. Has there been in terms of vaccine uptake? Yeah, we have absolutely seen that. I think the best example is from the 2019 measles outbreak where I saw a number of families, the grandparents,

Starting point is 01:36:27 without exception, had chosen to vaccinate their children. I think it all felt much more real to them than it did for the parents where they grew up at a time where we had vaccines, we had high vaccination rates, and you know they probably have never known anyone with measles. Now a new generation is facing a resurgence of vaccine preventable illnesses. This doesn't make any sense in the timeline. I'm of grandparent age, of course, you know, our kids are slow. But I would say no, no, let your kid get the measles. So I don't understand this reporting.

Starting point is 01:37:07 Are grandparents now 40? I have no idea what they're talking about. But in more pharma news, this is a good one. Concerning data from the CDC shows one in three teenagers now has prediabetes. With prediabetes, blood sugar levels are high, but not high enough to be considered type two diabetes, which is linked to heart disease and other conditions. Health experts say kids need to eat healthier

Starting point is 01:37:34 and be more active. This is the famous pre, pre-diabetes, pre-cancer, pre-dead. We're all pre-something. And right on cue, here comes Mattel. Cheek blue crop top with polka dots, mini skirt with ruffles and an insulin pump. US toy giant Mattel has launched the first Barbie doll with type one diabetes on the market. It aims to represent kids and teens living with the condition.

Starting point is 01:38:00 The doll was presented at an event in Washington on Tuesday. In addition to the insulin pump, she wears a blood glucose meter on her arm. She is part of Mattel's Fashionista line. This includes various looks with different skin tones, eye colors, hair colors, body types, and disabilities. They literally have one of them with a cane, like a blind cane. What is happening? DEI, baby.

Starting point is 01:38:30 Didn't they get the memo? It's like a ship. It's hard to turn it around. It's like the Titanic. They saw the iceberg ahead. Oh man. I don't know what to do with this. This is just a pathetic... You know, we were talking about social contagion. Was that the... It was the last episode, I think, right? We talked about it all the time, but yes.

Starting point is 01:38:53 Right, but we talked about the June bug. What was it? Oh, it was about... The June bugs, yeah. Yeah, but it was something else. It was... What was the other thing? It was the current bullcrap, whatever it was. Well, there's a new, new bull crap. And this is from, this only happens in California where people are just looking at TikTok all day long instead of talking to their chat GPT.

Starting point is 01:39:16 Pots, pots. What? This is the new thing, pots. Oh, I have pots. Pots? Yeah. They smoke pot. No. Postural tachycardia syndrome.

Starting point is 01:39:26 Have you heard? Of course you haven't heard of this because this is nonsense. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. So that's what I'm talking about. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. So that's what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 01:39:34 Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded.

Starting point is 01:39:42 Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. So that's the syndrome. It's called POTS syndrome. And of course, every woman on TikTok has it now. Here's the first one who gives us the five early warning signs you have POTS. I mean, this is, I'm reading from the NHS in the UK

Starting point is 01:40:09 where it has this name, postural tachycardia syndrome, and it literally says that is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded. So I don't know. That's just, I don't know what that is, but now everyone has it. Okay, let's talk about early signs of POTS.

Starting point is 01:40:28 So my first early warning sign that I had POTS was that I was exhausted all the time. I mean, I would sleep 12 hours every single night and still wake up feeling exhausted, and I still do that. Okay, the second early warning sign is that I had horrible migraines. I mean, not just like your regular headache. I mean, these would last for days.

Starting point is 01:40:46 And I'm talking like tunnel vision, nausea, the whole thing. Okay, the third early warning sign is that my heart rate was really high all the time. Like, I remember in high school, like just walking around and I would look at my little Fitbit that I had and it was like 150 BPM. And I would be sitting in the doctor's office sometimes and it would be just 120, just me sitting down and they're like, huh, I guess you're just anxious. Okay, number four is that I would only pass out during my period. Now I also have endometriosis and severe pain.

Starting point is 01:41:12 And so I just thought I was passing out due to severe pain and stuff like that. But it was actually low blood volume and it was POTS. And also endometriosis is comorbid to POTS. Okay, the fifth early warning sign is that I had exercise intolerance. I did some sports as a kid. Exercise intolerance! But I always felt like I was behind everyone else. Like I did cross country and I just feel like I could not keep up with anyone else.

Starting point is 01:41:35 And when I would work out, I would just feel horrible. And I never understood like how everyone was able to exercise so easily. So according to the NHS, the things that can cause POTS are being in a hot place, not drinking enough fluids, drinking alcohol, resting too much, exercise, being on your period, stress. They left out being on some whacked out SSRIs, but here's the second and only the final POTS TikTok lady I have.

Starting point is 01:42:07 She's going to approach it from a clinical standpoint and she's doing bird hands, which I know you'll explain in a moment. Most people with POTS, like 99%, struggle with some sort of nutrient imbalance or deficiency or both. And if your doctor's just telling you to drink more electrolytes,

Starting point is 01:42:22 I'm here to tell you that that is not going to be enough. POTS doesn't just affect your circulation, your heart rate, your blood pressure. It puts a strain on your entire system, especially your body's ability to absorb and utilize nutrients. Chronic stress, digestive issues, inflammation, antibiotic use. What? So she's doing bird hands while she's doing it to yak in a way like this is dumb. But it's a contagion. It's a social contagion called POTS.

Starting point is 01:42:52 Be on the lookout for it. I will now. Now that you mention it, I have not heard of this at all. Yeah. All right. Let's do bird hands now. Well, bird hands, the bird hands things which is I call the reverse explosion, which is you hold your hand palm forward and then you push it to a bird.

Starting point is 01:43:08 Like, so he looks like a bird. You can actually make it talk if you wanted to. And then you poke the bird beak at the person you're talking to and you're yelling at him usually. And this is very common amongst the tick talkers who are lecturing us about how bad Trump is. So this guy called Ho Math, Ho, H-O-E, Math. Everybody sent me this video, bud. This guy must be on fire. He must have everybody watching him. This guy's good. I only have a very short clip of him explaining bird hands, but I'm going to mention this guy. He is like a cartoonist and he's trying to,

Starting point is 01:43:46 him and there's another podcast, these are, I'm sorry, sorry I said podcast, these are YouTubers. Thank you. This guy and there's another one called the Whatever podcast YouTube, and the Whatever guy who's, Brian Adams I think is his name, he brings a bunch of, he brings like 10 or 12 women on the set. Oh, this is a horrible podcast.

Starting point is 01:44:12 This guy brings about 12 women on the set. At least half of them are only fans girls. The other, a good third of them have low IQs and the other ones are kind of cute, but they're not really. And then they think a lot of themselves and they go and they start explaining. And this podcast, rip them apart. They just rip them apart right there. It's insane what this thing is.

Starting point is 01:44:35 Well, the problem with it is the last episode he came out with was nine hours. That's a problem. His average podcast, his YouTube videos, average YouTube video is five. Five hours is the average. And this guy seems to be some, I don't know, but him and whole math, who never shows his face got together on the one that went nine hours. You're telling me we're not in trouble. I mean, we've got successful shows that are five hours long.

Starting point is 01:45:07 You're making a point here, but I know I'm walking into a trap by bringing this stuff up. But HOMATH, and the thing is these two guys, HOMATH and Brian, they are preoccupied with relationship issues. They either don't get laid enough or they didn't get girls. There's no sock

Starting point is 01:45:26 hops for them and something. And they're just trying to figure it out. And so they spend a lot of time figuring it out. It's somewhat enlightening. But Ho Math did an entire video on bird hands. You can look it up. A lot of people sent it to me, but I knew about it. That's good. And here's the crux of it right here the whatever podcast asked why do they always do the hand thing referring to this little henpeck gesture that girls have been making with their hands and I thought I'd bring you the answer here it is so the hand thing that the tick-tock girls are doing is the hands are closed

Starting point is 01:46:01 and pointed at you and it means you better listen to me. I am telling you, me, me, me, me, me, me, this is what you believe now, me, me, me, me, me. When you point it at yourself, you get the Italian, like the chef's kiss thing. Oh, I'm telling you, this is so, look at what I did over here. I did that unconsciously.

Starting point is 01:46:19 This is so good, you should try it. The hands closed over here are, I'm sure of what I'm saying, and I receive your needs. You should try this thing. That's great. This is also used in Italian arguments. I told you about that kid. What Trump? Yeah. Okay. So me me me me me is which I thought was the kicker. Back to Birdhands. If I can just say, many, many years ago, if these kids, these women would stop being on TikTok and look at some historical information,

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Starting point is 01:47:34 Whatever happened to that trend. Well, it went away. It went away. So let's play a couple of these analysis clips. I have a series of them. But I want to play these. Let's play a couple of these analysis clips. I have a series of them. But I want to play these. The problem is with these that started with FNC, because I was doing it.

Starting point is 01:47:50 I can't explain why I'm making these errors in titling, but... Lack of kale, obviously. It starts with FNC anal. Wow, which is the original of the series. And this is from PBS. PBS brought on the, and the first time we get to hear the head of the DNC, that wimpy guy from Minnesota, who's the head of the DNC, and so they're gonna go

Starting point is 01:48:18 into a long discussion of the DNC and what the Democrats are gonna do. I found it fascinating because it's like this guy is clueless. The Democrats are clueless. PBS is clueless. It's it's hilarious. Joining me now to discuss where the party goes next is Democratic National Committee Chair Ken Martin. Ken, welcome to the NewsHour. Thanks for joining us.

Starting point is 01:48:39 Thank you so much for having me, Amna. So Democrats have just started running some ads this week against dozens of House Republicans who voted for that Trump budget bill. In your view, is that bill right now sort of the core messaging strategy for Democrats? Is that the strongest argument you've got? Well, absolutely it's a strong argument because look at what this bill has done. I mean, every Republican in this, in the Congress, in the US House, and in the Senate, voted for this bill. Every Democrat voted against it. This is, as I call it, the big...

Starting point is 01:49:10 No, hold on. This guy runs the DNC and he says that? That's a lie. What's the truth? Massie voted against it. Yes, he did. There were three. I think Susan Collins in the Senate voted against it. No, no, no, no. I think she got a deal. Somebody voted against it in the Senate voted against it. No, no, no, no. I think she got a deal.

Starting point is 01:49:25 Somebody voted against it in the Senate. There were three House Republicans voted against it by Republican. And one Senator or two. Yeah. So that's a lie. It's a lie! I mean, every Republican in the Congress, in the US House, and in the Senate, voted for this bill.

Starting point is 01:49:43 What? Lying on PBS? I'm shocked. ...voted for this bill. Every Democrat voted against it. This is, as I call it, the big, beautiful betrayal. All Republicans, every single one of them, put their oath to Donald Trump ahead of... By the way, weak. Is that all they got? Big, beautiful... We had big, ugly bill, big beautiful betrayal. I don't know, ma'am, but I see the crazy lefties in New York like, well, I'm kind of happy with the no tax on tips, even if it's up to $25,000. I'm okay with that.

Starting point is 01:50:15 House and in the Senate voted for this bill. Every Democrat voted against it. This is, as I call it, the big, beautiful betrayal. All Republicans, every single one of them, put their oath to Donald Trump ahead of the oath to their constituents that they were elected by. And as a result of this betrayal, this big, beautiful betrayal, they betrayed seniors

Starting point is 01:50:36 where over a quarter of nursing homes around this country are going to close. They betrayed children. When we think about 4.2 million children in this country are going to lose nutritional assistance. They betrayed the disabled. It's all lies. It's all lies. It's not true at all. It's just lies. It's amazing. When 17 million Americans are going to be kicked off of their health insurance, they betrayed rural communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely. Did he say 17 million now?

Starting point is 01:51:06 Gonna all get kicked off. We went from 11 to 12 to 17. Be kicked off of their- Let me get the number. They betrayed the disabled when 17 million Americans are going to be kicked off of their health insurance. They betrayed rural communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely to close now. Just to reiterate, the way they come up with that is if people don't volunteer,

Starting point is 01:51:38 go to work, there will be a million illegal aliens who will be kicked off. That's for sure. So what they're saying is that means the hospitals lose revenue or that's how they arrive with this. Oh, the hospitals will have to close implying that somehow the big beautiful betrayal took away money from hospitals. I don't know why podcasters have to explain this. PBS should be doing it. PBS, the podcast broadcast system. Communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely to close now. They betrayed hardworking Americans.

Starting point is 01:52:18 1.75 million construction jobs alone are going to be lost because of this bill. What? What? Because they're rounding up the illegals who are doing the construction jobs will be there. They just won't be filled by the same people, I guess. And at the end of the day, they did all of that to actually help those in our communities who already have so much, the billionaires, the rich, the people who don't need a tax break. So look, absolutely, this is a gift. It's a gift to the Democratic party,

Starting point is 01:52:48 but it's not a gift to the American people who are gonna suffer immensely over the next several years and longer because of this disastrous bill. You know, I found, if I can just do a quickie on the BBB, as an interim, it's not an analysis clip, but well, it is kind of analysis clip. There is something in there that is upsetting a lot of young men. Attention sports fetters out there. So essentially what happens currently, previously now, is that if you won, let's say you won

Starting point is 01:53:20 $100 on a bet and then you lost $100 on a bet. You'd be able to deduct your losses on your winnings, therefore you wouldn't be paying taxes. Well, the one big beautiful bill made a significant change to gambling. It limits, puts a cap of 90% now on losses. So if you won $100 and lost $100, you'd still be paying a tax even though maybe you never felt like you got any money. It's a noteworthy change in the gambling world. It's frustrated lawmakers from Las Vegas and Nevada, as you might suspect. They're trying to work to see if they can do a bipartisan fix before this goes too far

Starting point is 01:54:02 down the line. But attention gamblers, change on the horizon too. Oh no. Oh no. I think that's a plus. I think it's great. Prop bets are going to be a problem. They should be discouraging gambling in any way they can if the government has to get

Starting point is 01:54:17 involved. Yeah. Yes. All right. By the way, let's go to, we have a bunch more of these DNC with this bonehead, but let's go to the BBB analysis. I have that too. I want to play these since you brought it,

Starting point is 01:54:33 you changed the topic. Let's go to BBB analysis, PBD, which is actually public broadcaster, PBS. Oh, for a moment there, I'm like, what? Patrick Bette Davis? Yes, no, no, not Patrick Bette David. Oh boy, okay. Tomorrow will mark one week since Congress passed

Starting point is 01:54:50 the Republicans' major budget act. President Donald Trump signed his signature agenda just a day later on Independence Day. But what's in it and how it will affect Americans' day-to-day lives remains a mystery to most. Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins read just about every word of the nearly 900 page long- Oh my God, she can read! She's back at our super screen to help us make sense of it all.

Starting point is 01:55:13 What's the super screen? It's a big monitor. Oh, and the touch screen, she can touch it? It's not even that big. By the way, we have a restaurant over here for people in the Bay area, the 99 Ranch restaurant in El Cerrito. There's a 99 Ranch, which is a, actually a shopping center. There's a restaurant at near one of the entrances and this restaurant is a

Starting point is 01:55:36 Chinese restaurant. Obviously it's in a Chinese operation. They have a, they have a Jumbotron in the restaurant that is the size of any, They have a Jumbotron in the restaurant that is the size of any, it's like the one in the Dallas Cowboys, uh, tube stadium. It's unbelievable. It's from the, the ceilings are 10 feet high. It's from the floor to the ceiling. Quick everybody rush out to El Cerrito and go see it. It's amazing. Best price. What is the screen doing in a restaurant?

Starting point is 01:56:04 Also Lisa, I know you and the team broke out separate pieces of the legislation before, but it is such a big bill. Help us take the big picture view to start off. Right. And it's not just a big bill. In fact, it is the largest in terms of dollars, in terms of tax cuts and spending cuts in U.S. history. So it's easy to get lost in this, but I think we've found some ways to make it more understandable.

Starting point is 01:56:23 First, let's look at the main blocks in this bill. There's really six of them. Tax cuts, money for the border and for defense. These ones are money going out of the federal government, essentially. Then bottom, you have reforms and spending cuts, healthcare, green energy cuts, SNAP food program, and student loans. That's money that would come in. You put all that together, do the math,

Starting point is 01:56:46 and you end up with around $4 trillion in costs for this bill. That does include interest. Now, of course, some of these pieces are bigger than others, so let's look at that with a little bit more depth. Does she mention it's over 10 years or just make it sound like it's all one? Well, she does it in and out,

Starting point is 01:57:02 but I want to just, I'm playing these clips because your analysis last show is as good as this. She does have a couple of extras I never heard before, but you did a good job in a shorter period of time. Yes, I can see these clips are long. But even when they do this, this analysis here. It's political. It doesn't fit. Well,

Starting point is 01:57:21 it's not as bad as this guy from the Democratic National Party makes it sound. Yeah. And it just, they can't make it that bad. Imagine this bill is 100 dots representing 100% of the bill money in and out. So we can compare what's happening in this bill. Let's look at those items we talked about just a minute ago. The border money and DOD, those snap cuts, student loan cuts, and then green energy. You can see that while they will affect millions, dollar-wise they're not a huge part of the bill. Let's add something else. The health care cuts for Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act. A little bit

Starting point is 01:57:57 more of the bill from that, but really the giant factor in this bill are the tax cuts right there. More than 60% of the bill. These three dots are other miscellaneous things, but really this bill is all about the tax cuts. And she explains that a lot of that is continuation of tax cuts that are already in place. They're not going to do that. No. Okay.

Starting point is 01:58:20 And does she explain that part of this is intended to, which is dubious, to accelerate and stimulate growth of, I don't know, like some crazy amount. Oh, come on. You should be realistic. Seven percent GDP, which sounds totally doable. So, Lisa, how should people understand how this bill affects them individually and precisely? Right. We've talked about income before on the show, but it isn't just income.

Starting point is 01:58:45 In this bill, literally more than 100 different provisions affecting people. So we found a way to get it to some of the broad contours of who may gain or lose from this. Let's talk about individuals first. Right now, more taxpayers are individuals than families. You would benefit more as an individual if you earn over $50,000 because of the tax cuts largely. If you live in a high tax state, looking at you, New York,

Starting point is 01:59:07 you would benefit because there is that state and local tax deduction in the bill. And if you're a farmer, there are subsidies here for you and also the estate tax would be expanded on this bill with a higher maximum for that. You would lose more as an end of the year. Which, by the way, is not mentioned, but that's critical for farmers. That's critical for farmers who want to leave their farm to their kids so the kids can actually afford- Yeah, continue the process of farming the land.

Starting point is 01:59:35 You should have called these clips bad anal. I don't know why you didn't do that. What a missed opportunity. A higher maximum for that. Only for you. It only benefits you for humor. As an individual, if you earn under $18,000, likely losing benefits potentially.

Starting point is 01:59:52 If you work in solar or wind, that is an industry that will face some challenges because of this bill and the cuts. If you're in your 50s and 60s, you would also be affected potentially if you are on Medicaid or SNAP, because the work requirements will be expanded to people you are on Medicaid or SNAP because the work requirements will be expanded to people who are older now.

Starting point is 02:00:09 One more, let's talk about families, little bit different effects. If you're married and wealthy as a family, you're more likely to benefit. And if you have younger kids, that's because of the child tax deduction. Also, there's a thousand dollar new trust account for kids. And if you own a family business, there's a tax cut or tax deduction in there for you that will be extended. You know, you sometimes complain about my series, but holy moly, I'm hanging on by a thread here.

Starting point is 02:00:35 There's no theory involved here. She's just trying to explain it in a way that- I said series, not theory, series. Series. Oh, the series. Yes, this is like eight minutes, but okay, let's go. Bad anal three. Well, after you took over the whole hour of the show at the beginning, I didn't have anything to do.

Starting point is 02:00:51 I was thinking you were going for a Pulitzer. And I wasn't bitching and moaning, and I played a couple of anal clips, and you're all bent out of shape. Which you promised me for almost two decades. You will get it, but you dropped the ball at the end there with your nutball stuff. If you will lose as a family, if you're a single parent and low income, you will not

Starting point is 02:01:10 be exempted from work requirements in the way that one parent may be in a married family. And if you have college-aged kids, because of those student loan changes, there may be fewer student loans and they may be more expensive. Yeah, you got to pay them back. Yeah, this is the problem. They don't like this idea of having to pay back a loan Yeah, well, it's insane. But you know you also can get did she meant you can now get a Pell Grant for vocational studies She did not mention anything that's positive

Starting point is 02:01:39 But she did but the negative side what she's to push, is not negative enough to get anybody all bent out of shape like this Democrat guy. Let's go back to the Democrat analysis clips. Oh, you want, okay. Whatever you want. So that would be... It'd be DNC 2. As you've seen among some of your own Democratic base, though, there are those who say they

Starting point is 02:02:01 want Democrats to be doing more. I'll put to you the latest numbers from our PBS News NPR Marist poll that showed some 43 percent of Democrats, your own supporters, disapprove of the job that Democrats in Congress are doing right now. So why is it that you think your base is so unhappy with how Democrats are leading right now? Well, there's rightfully so. There's a lot of anxiety out there with what they've seen from this administration so far.

Starting point is 02:02:27 Is they're going down in a very aggressive manner to dismantle this country? What we've seen is they fear... And if I may, to be clear, this is a disapproval of Democrats in Congress, not about the Trump administration. I understand that. But people are concerned of what they're seeing right now in this country. And what they want is they are anxious, they're nervous. This is unprecedented.

Starting point is 02:02:49 We've never seen anything like this. And at the end of the day, that anxiety, of course, requires everyone to do their part. They want to see not just Democrats in Congress, but Democrats throughout this country, and whether you're in political party leadership, whether you're a local elected official, they want Democrats to do their part

Starting point is 02:03:07 to resist this authoritarian regime and what they're doing to dismantle this country. So I understand where that anxiety comes from. But let me tell you what the Democratic Party has been doing. We've already hosted over 130 town halls throughout the country to hold Republicans accountable to their disastrous policies that they've been pushing from the beginning with this administration, not just to hold Republicans accountable to their disastrous policies that they've been

Starting point is 02:03:25 pushing from the beginning with this administration, not just to hold them accountable, but to make sure that we're helping to amplify the stories of all the pain and anguish that's been inflicted upon the American people since Donald Trump was inaugurated. Oh, the pain inflicted is horrible as bad. Anguish. Anguish. Anguish. Anguish. Anguish. Is this guy in the real world, I mean is this guy ever talk about leaving the house? I mean what

Starting point is 02:03:51 is Minnesota must be really screwed up. Yeah I would say that's probably true. I just found a guy to be he's not even discussing reality. Surprised? A Democrat on PBS? No reality? Hmm. But Ken, a lot of the frustration even at those town halls, as you mentioned, that we've seen has been from Democrats who want to see Democrats do more than just message and hold

Starting point is 02:04:20 conversational spaces. They want to see you doing the kinds of things that Cory Booker did with a record floor speech or Hakeem Jeffries did or Senator Padilla. Nobody wants to see that nonsense. And then she also backs it up with Padilla's stunt. And confronting the DHS secretary. They want to see you get caught trying. Yeah, get caught trying.

Starting point is 02:04:41 Why not do more of that? Do more of that, please. We need more video. We need hours and hours of you doing stuff. We are doing that. And you just mentioned people are doing it, right? And folks are doing it all over the country. I think the sense is it's not enough of that. And that's where the frustration comes from. Is that fair? I don't think that's accurate though. Look, I think initially when Donald Trump was inaugurated, I do believe the party and many of our elected

Starting point is 02:05:05 officials were caught flat-footed. But you haven't seen that in recent months. You've seen elected officials, you just mentioned it, from Cory Booker to Hakeem Jeffries, to our Democratic Attorney General who are leading the way on filing litigation after litigation to take on this authoritarian regime, to our governors and local elected officials who are using the power of their offices to actually protect vulnerable communities and communities being targeted by this administration. And to our members of Congress who realize

Starting point is 02:05:32 that they may not have power in Congress right now, but they have the power of their voices and their platforms to really get out there and speak loudly about what's happening. And that's what's been happening for weeks and months now. And so I get where the anxiety comes from from but it's just not accurate or true that the Democratic Party and our elected officials aren't doing enough. I would recommend a new tactic for the Democrat Party.

Starting point is 02:05:56 I think they should say the Republicans in the House and the Senate are afraid to vote anything but what President Trump wants because he's got the Epstein tapes of them. That's what they should say. That's not gonna work. What they should do is... It would be better than this. Well anything would be better than this. This guy's no good. It makes you think that maybe David Hogg is a winner. Who they kicked out of the fucking operation. operation I'm sorry didn't mean to do that. That was not a good use of the word That was uncalled for but they kicked him out of the operation because he was Causing a fuss by saying something a little different. This guy's no good. Yeah, David Hogg

Starting point is 02:06:37 He was also on the Epstein tapes everyone that we don't like now is on the Imagine this is it David Hogg on the Epstein tape. Well, he was on the tapes. He was he was one of the people that was being trafficked. Oh, goodness. All right. Which one do we play now? The the I've got four. We have two kickers.

Starting point is 02:06:56 What do you want? I'm calling two kickers. We got to go. Come on. What are we doing for what do you take away from Zoran Mamdani's New York City Mayoral Democratic primary win? Are there lessons there for the party or the races? Well, first it was a brilliant campaign

Starting point is 02:07:12 and there's a lot of lessons. One is he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can't just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There's no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about.

Starting point is 02:07:26 But we also have to give people a sense of what we're for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power. And that's really critical. And I think that's one of the lessons from Mamdani's campaign is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live. I think that's one of the lessons.

Starting point is 02:07:57 The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they're at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way. There's a lot to learn from that campaign, and I'm excited to learn more. But resist, we must, and we will much about that be committed. So we had dinner last night with the New York Zoomer. We're here for Tina's birthday, it's tomorrow. And so we said, I said, how about mom, Donnie fever?

Starting point is 02:08:40 She says, oh yeah, everybody loves him. I said, it's a do tell. Everyone loves him. We know that he's only going to do 25%, but we don't want that stupid clubber, Mayor Adams or Cuomo. Yeah. So that's- I think that's right.

Starting point is 02:08:58 That is why they all voted for him. And he said they don't believe 75% of what Mamdani is saying, but it was better than... No one likes Eric Adams because he was ineffective. We lose our guy, the voice of Eric Adams, who we haven't heard much from recently. No, we've already lost him. We lost him to... Yeah, he's overboard. We lost him to measles, I think.

Starting point is 02:09:20 He's gone. To measles. So now we have two kickers. Yes. Let's gone. Measles. So now we have two kickers. Yes. Let's play them. What about concerns from some of your Jewish colleagues in particular about him not outright condemning the phrase, globalize the intifada, in a recent interview?

Starting point is 02:09:35 Some of your Jewish colleagues have said that that could be very disturbing, potentially dangerous. Do you agree with that? You know, there's no candidate in this party that I agree 100% of the time with, to be honest with you. There's things that I don't agree with, Mamdani, that he said. But at the end of the day, I always believe as a Democratic Party chair in Minnesota for the last 14 years and now the chair of the DNC, that you win through addition.

Starting point is 02:09:58 You win by bringing people into your coalition. Well, this is a good question. You wait, wait, you win by addition. So let's bring in the Jew haters into the party. We welcome you. I don't understand something. If Mossad controls everything and everybody, now how can this guy be a front runner?

Starting point is 02:10:19 Don't they have the goods on him? Don't they have Epstein stuff? Well, that's all beside the point. It kind of falls apart. The point I was making with this course where I cut it off is because we welcome everybody. Except the Jews. You hate the Jews, hey, come on in. He doesn't.

Starting point is 02:10:38 He was very, he actually had a good answer. He said, no, I'm not going to travel to Israel. I'm going to stay in New York. He had a good answer. Who, Mondami? Yes. No, I'm talking about this guy. I don't care about this. Oh, this guy is a nut job. So here's kicker number two. We have conservative Democrats. We have centrist Democrats. We have labor progressives like me, and we have this new brand of Democrat, which is the leftist. And we win by bringing people into that coalition. Bring them in.

Starting point is 02:11:07 And at the end of the day... Wait, this is the Democrat big tent. This is amazing. They've taken a Republican talking point. We got a big tent. Come on in. Yeah, big tent of communists. Yeah, commies.

Starting point is 02:11:17 That coalition. And at the end of the day, for me, that's the type of party we're going to lead. We are a big tent party. Yes, it leads to dissent and debate, and there's differences of opinions on a whole host of issues. But we should celebrate that as a party and recognize at the end of the day, we're better because of it. That is the chair of the Democratic National Committee, Ken Martin, joining us tonight.

Starting point is 02:11:38 Ken, thank you so much for your time. Good to speak with you. Thank you, Amna. Thank you. All right. So they're doomed. Big tent. speak with you. Thank you, I'm not. Thank you. All right. So they're doomed. Big tent.

Starting point is 02:11:46 I don't know, man, because, you know, MAGA's falling apart. They're all going to vote Democrat. It's over. It'll be the day. They're going to vote for Elon's party. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the seas in the social contagion. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister, John C. DeVore!

Starting point is 02:12:08 Yeah, well in the morning you, Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning all the ship's seaboots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to the trolls in the troll room, let me count you, trolls, let me see what we got here. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba 1907 1907 is the calendar of the trolls for today 1907. What's up behind her? Yeah, well, everyone wanted to know what did the boys think of this?

Starting point is 02:12:36 What do you think of this? What's going on? Uh, trolls are in the troll room trollroom.io. You can listen live or use one of those modern podcast apps, podcastapps.com. That's plural. You'll see a whole bunch of them there. Look for the live feature, which means you will get a notification. By the way, I got to tell you something exciting. Live notification. It's a podcasting 2.0 feature, pod ping. So you can listen to the live shows right there and you have more and more doing it. People

Starting point is 02:13:07 are searching for authenticity. So they're moving towards live shows that are live to tape as it were. Because everyone's sick and tired of pre-canned, all the arms, the stuff is cut out of it. Oh, all the pregnant pauses got to chop that out to use AI to fix everything. Make it sound so sleek and professional. And make it sound dead. That's the opposite of what podcasting is about. And of course, you'll be notified within 90 seconds of our shows being published that

Starting point is 02:13:32 they are actually published. So I told you about the funding tag where you can now have, and the apps are starting to add this, where you have a button right there in the app on the show, you hit the button and it takes you right to the donation page or the way we're going to do it is it takes you right to Stripe so you can pay with Apple Pay or Google Pay or anything and stuff like that. Have I told you about this feature? Yeah, you told me you talked about last show. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:13:58 So guess what? NPR is now implementing that. So now that NPR is doing it, now everybody's waking up. Oh, you watch, Apple's going to have this. So now that NPR is doing it, now everybody's waking up. Oh, you watch, Apple's going to have this. It's going to be the value for value button is coming to podcast apps everywhere. It only took five years, which is good. That means my success ratio is now 50% shorter than it used to be.

Starting point is 02:14:17 Well, eventually it'll be right there with the... I'll be on the money. I'll be rich. I'll be so rich. I'll be leave my wife rich, stocks and bonds rich. Until then, we'll just stay value for value. And we will thank everybody who supports the show with time, talent and treasure. We always want to thank our artists who are great AI prompters. Although it was very interesting to see an old name

Starting point is 02:14:46 return to episode 1779, which we titled Buffy Gorilla. I'm sure she got some kick out of that Buffy. Oh, Buffy, Buffy Gorilla. Nick the Rat returned to the album art with a nice social contagion June bug. And this was very interesting to us because Nick the rat, who I think is still number one on the leaderboard of all time. Yeah, with a hundred and a hundred and 91 wins. And it looks like Nick has given in. He has given into the AI.

Starting point is 02:15:21 And of course he has. And an idiot. But see, the thing is Nick has good ideas. That's what makes it. It's not the just, you can't just make something with AI, it'll be great. No, you have to have a good idea. You need the creativity.

Starting point is 02:15:37 You can't just say, hey, Chad GPT, make some cool art for no agenda. No, it's not going to work. You will fail. And we like this. And lots of people like they even animated it. some cool art for no agenda. No, it's not going to work. It will, you will fail. And we liked it. And lots of people like they even animated it on on X. Did you see the animated versions of it? No. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:15:54 It was like grok animate this image. All of a sudden the June bugs flying around her head. That's pretty cool. So that was nice. It was good to, good to have you back Nick the Rat. I mean you're hometown. I should come visit the sewer. Let's see what else we have.

Starting point is 02:16:09 Nick the Rat should come by. Yeah he should. But I'm too busy. My dance card is full. It's very full right now. Your dance card is, your dance card? Yeah my dance card is full. We got no time for anybody.

Starting point is 02:16:22 We got Tina's birthday tomorrow then we're out. I'm not staying here too long. Oh, you got to give us a boots on the ground report. I don't give it to you tomorrow. We had travel favor all the way. Tomorrow, it's just no show tomorrow. No, but what I'm saying is that's the only time really going to be in the city is tomorrow. And then Saturday we leave.

Starting point is 02:16:42 Came in last night, doing the show, not taking a show off, setting it up in the hotel room. You know how that is? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, I'm sorry, you wouldn't. It's been, I don't know, eight years. I've done shows. I've done shows in Vegas. I've done shows in Brazil. How long ago was that? It doesn't matter. Oh, okay. It's been a while.

Starting point is 02:17:03 Yeah, because it's a pain in the ass. Because you don't go anywhere. I try not to. Yeah, that's why I told you. After COVID. Let's take a look at some of the other art. There was a lot of guerrilla art which didn't really work for us. No.

Starting point is 02:17:19 I don't think... was there anything? The Ozzy thing was kind of cute from by Scare Manga. Ozzy trying to shoot a chicken out of the slingshot. But I don't know. There was something about the June bug that we just liked. It was good. Well a couple of things. One, it was in Monochrome. Yes. Yeah, that was a winner. Monochrome. Yes. Yeah, which that was a change is the yeah dynamic changes changes dynamic Now we don't want a bunch of monochrome stuff. All of a sudden is just so happens This work there were a lot of a lot of Texas drowning treks at Texas water. Yeah, no Yeah, that's not happening a little too soon. Don't you think and the gorillas are no good? Oh

Starting point is 02:18:01 No No, they really weren't any good Prop bets. No, this was no, they really weren't any good. Prop bets. No, this was it. This was it. He, uh, it wasn't really a lot of competition with this piece. No, but Nick, Nick nailed it. It's good to have him back and we appreciate that. No agenda. He'll either start to produce a bunch of this junk, uh, AI junk or he will just take it another way.

Starting point is 02:18:25 And I'll just go back to doing what I was doing. That's 192. I'm good to go. It's like a roundy. He did win a couple and he disappeared off the face of the earth. He got a job. He's like, ah, screw you guys.

Starting point is 02:18:40 Okay. So that is the time and talent portion. No agenda, artgenerator art generator comm everybody can participate and I will say in advance that we have non AI end-of-show mixes the Unlike the artists who just folded The mixers like no no, we're not having this we're gonna fight the AI and there's some good AI that was submitted by the way There was some pretty good AI that was submitted by the way. There was some pretty good AI. Nico Seim submitted something that you were all, he said the Dutch, he's in the Dutch master, isn't he?

Starting point is 02:19:12 Nico Seim? I think it's from Holland. Well, but we don't have Dutch music masters. Why not? Well, the only name one band out of Holland. The Holland five. The Holland Five. No. The Holland Tunnel.

Starting point is 02:19:28 You could have said Golden Earring, you could have said Shocking Blue. I don't know these bands, I'm not like you, I'm not a band discographer. You've never heard of Golden Earring? I've heard of Golden Earring, but I didn't know where they were from. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 02:19:42 Holland Tunnel was a good joke. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Boomer. Let us go to the treasure portion. This is how it works. We thank everybody $50 and above. And if you hit us up with $200 or above for this particular episode, we give you a bonus.

Starting point is 02:19:59 We give you an associate executive producer credit, which is useful and recognized everywhere that Hollywood credits work including IMDB.com. We will read your note gladly. $300 and above you become an executive producer. This is just like Hollywood basically. And we will read your note and you get that executive producer credit. And we start with Yair Moore. Yair Moore is from DN East Benjamin, Illinois. That sounds fake. What is that? IL is the country code. He's in Israel. Oh, he's in Israel. Oh, it's Jew money.

Starting point is 02:20:36 There you go. So he's in East Benjamin. Oh, thank you. Yair Moore. And he says, in the morning, gents, July 12th is my 40th birthday. Wait a minute. Do we have him on the list? It's not color coded properly. Is he on the list? Have you checked if he is on the list? Let me see. Yeah, he's on the list. Okay. He's on the list. Good. I'm chipping in with some more shekels for the show, aka Jew money. More than usual to get myself a special midlife crisis present.

Starting point is 02:21:05 The title Sir Yes, pronounced Sir Yes. Oh, Sir Yes, Sir Yes, I got it. Night of the No Agenda Show. In case Jay wants to verify, he sent his accounting along, along with a triple karma for finding a new house, for finding my own keeper,

Starting point is 02:21:20 for succeeding in my exit strategy, an online video, I wouldn't call it podcasting because I love you Adam. No homo I mean I am homo, but not towards you. Whoa, this little TMI My my aptly named show more about MOHR more about thank you for your Kurd Sorry for the long note John again is pronounced Yair more and he wants a a rare triple karma We'll give him two with a goat. You've got karma.

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Starting point is 02:22:19 but my wife and I could use some help finding out, finding our forever home. A little house-selling karma wouldn't hurt either, again. Thanks guys. Alright, here it comes. House-selling karma for you. You've got karma. Sir Pantanjelini in Lamberg, PA has a switcheroo for Renegade. Alright, let me make that switcheroo right away so we don't mess that one up. Renegade, and he says, I'd like to offer an apology for everyone at NA.S for constantly being wrong about Israel.

Starting point is 02:22:57 They can't help themselves. It is real. They all still listen. Yeah, of course. Many start with an answer and work their way to justify the answer. I appreciate that neither of you do this. Either way, oh, this is so is, we're getting like the shekel money here today, John. It's all coming in. It's proof. It's about to say you gripe and gripe and this is what happens. That's right. By the way, this is 233.69, Associate Executive Producer.

Starting point is 02:23:22 Either way, it's been suggested that you both are high on the Epstein list, which is why it hasn't been released and you are both shills from Assad, which is why also neither of you can talk about the Ben-Gurion Canal from Gaza to the Gulf of Aqaba. I think we have actually. And why Trump wants a hotel at the mouth of the canal and his BFF in Saudi Arabia will have his Neom Line project on the other side. By the way, it's warp speed cancer, not turbo cancer. Ooh, there's a good one.

Starting point is 02:23:57 Please fix your terminology. That is a good one. That is a good one. I think we'll have to do that. P.S. The moon will remain flat until morale improves. All right. Here's your camera. Here's your karma. Thank you. You've got karma. We have talked about the canal. They're going to blow that up with dynamite to make that canal. Remember that? Well, something to do. Yeah. Waj Tech Weaponry. That's right. He's in Manchester.

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Starting point is 02:27:19 A lot of the smoke comes out. That's not the gas. That's just to show the cops where the wind's blowing and it's gonna come back at them or not. Right. So it's a very interesting product from that regard. Anyway, through extensive flavor, he continues, through extensive flavor research,

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Starting point is 02:30:33 Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! You know, speaking of shut up, slave, this made me, this made me chuckle. This made me chuckle. This me chuckle this I'm sure you heard this report tonight a big change at American airports the TSA saying effective immediately all passengers not just those with pre-check will be able to keep their shoes on through security something we haven't seen in nearly 20 years after that attempted shoe bombing and in the wake of 9-eleven we

Starting point is 02:31:02 anticipate that Americans and travelers and those coming into our country will be very excited that they will no longer have to remove their shoes. The so-called shoe bomber Richard Reed tried to blow up a flight from Paris to Miami in 2001. The explosives packed in his shoes failed to detonate and Reed was tackled by passengers and crew. We're going to put that up here. Since then the TSA has added multiple layers of security,

Starting point is 02:31:26 including data on millions of Americans. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem insists flights will be just as secure. Since that policy was put in place, our security technology has changed dramatically. It's evolved. Yeah, without our approval, you have just added facial recognition and it's here to stay.

Starting point is 02:31:48 They just slipped that in, everybody went, okay, I'm used to it with my iPhone, it's fine, whatever. Little sign says, we deleted after 24 hours. Yeah, sure you do. Yeah, I'm sure you do. Yeah, I remember when they had the x-ray machines and they had the naked women go through it and they said they kept deleting it and then there's, turns out there was an underground people trading pictures of the nude women. Of course. And that's what they did. Since 20 years ago, we got the naked body scanners,

Starting point is 02:32:14 we got the backscatter scanners, and now we have the analogic, it still kills me, analogic, it still kills me. Those big carry-on scanners that look like a jet engine, you probably haven't seen one. Yeah, I've seen them. They've been around forever. Yeah. Although I will say that, you know, we have pre-checked, so I'm completely in the system and the whole rig, two cases, you know, one filled with wires and plugs and all kinds of stuff,

Starting point is 02:32:48 the podcast rig, and then my sling camera bag that has microphones in it, it goes through no problem. So I guess it's true that like Curry's not a problem. He's not a terrorist. He's good. Used to be. Used to be a big one. Used to be a big problem

Starting point is 02:33:06 so That I think is very sad. Oh, we're so excited And of course if you were sad too, I liked it back in the days when you got pulled over his side and kept Waiting for hours on end every time you travel. I thought that was the good old days Those were the good old days. All right Two clips for me about BRICS. Of course, this is what most of the fighting really has been about, is about pushing back Brazil, India, Russia, China, South Africa, and added to that possibly Saudi Arabia, Egypt. I mean, there's just tons of countries that have poured into this BRICS thing.

Starting point is 02:33:46 And President Trump made a statement about what this was really about and why he's not having it. BRICS was set up to degenerate our dollar and take our dollar as the standard, take it off as the standard. And that's okay if they want to play that. When he says the standard,

Starting point is 02:34:02 I think he means the reserve currency of the world, but he forgot what that was. So he was just saying. Well, he also said the word degenerate. Like defrag, I don't know what's going on. And that's okay if they want to play that game, but I can play that game too. So anybody that's in bricks is getting a 10% charge.

Starting point is 02:34:20 Is that an immediate start or is that because they engage in some business? Pretty soon. Well, if they're a member of BRICS, they're going to have to pay 10% tariff just for that one thing and they won't be a member alone. I thought BRICS was, you know, I said this about a year ago and it largely broke up. But, you know, there are a couple that hang around, but I thought it largely broke up. BRICS is not, in my opinion, not a serious threat.

Starting point is 02:34:44 But what they're trying to do is destroy the dollar so that another country can take over and be the standard. And we're not gonna lose the standard at any time. If you have a smart president, you will never lose the standard. If you have a stupid president, like the last one, you would lose the standard. You wouldn't have the dollars here. I don't want to lose the standard. And if we lost the world standard dollar, that would be like losing a war, a major world war. We would not be the same country any longer. We're not going to let that happen.

Starting point is 02:35:16 The dollar, you ever hear the expression dollar is king? The dollar is king. We're going to keep it that way, okay? I'm just saying if people want to challenge it, they can, but they're going to have to pay a big price. And I don't think any of them are willing to pay that price. So I checked in on the BRICS to see how they were doing, to see if they are still a threat to the dollar, to degenerate the dollar as the world standard.

Starting point is 02:35:43 And they just had a meeting. Did you know they just had a meeting. Did you know they just had a meeting, the BRICS? Yeah, isn't this the meeting that Putin didn't show up for? Yeah, he sent Lavrov instead. And these guys, they're like begging for money from the IMF. What kind of BRICS is that? More demands for change.

Starting point is 02:36:01 The BRICS countries called for reforms of the International Monetary Fund during their annual summit in Rio de Janeiro on Monday. The bloc notably wants a reform of IMF quotas, which the IMF uses to determine how much money member states can contribute, but also how much they can get in loans. Through the vision for IMF reform, we will engage more countries in the 17th general review of IMF quotas. Brazil supports an inclusive quota realignment process with a simple, balanced and transparent calculation formula.

Starting point is 02:36:34 But global finance was not the only concern for the group. Brazil's president also called for fairer governance of artificial intelligence technology. While adopting the Declaration on artificial intelligence governance, BRICS is sending a clear and unequivocal message. New technologies must operate with an affair, inclusive and equitable governance framework. The development of artificial intelligence cannot become a privilege of a few countries

Starting point is 02:37:01 or a way of manipulation in the house. You know, that's the world's worst clip. Well, that's the only one I could get. Just mumbling in the background, she's whispering into the mic. Where did this come from? Africa News, unfortunately. Well, I've got Africa News too, but it wasn't poorly, that was terrible. Well I'm so sorry, that's all I could get.

Starting point is 02:37:17 Well, I mean, you can explain what she said because I couldn't hear her. Okay. She said that the bricks were saying, we need better terms from the IMF, which is, we own that, sorry. And then she said, and we need fair access to artificial intelligence. Okay. What? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:37:41 That's what they're complaining about. So they're lost. They got nothing. If they don't have that... And Lavrov, he was like slouched in his chair. He was like, why am I here? That's exactly right. Why is he here? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:37:54 So I think... Well, that sounds like this is a disaster. I would say that after China got the message, BRICS is... Whoops. Whoops. Okay. We're just going to hold back a little bit.

Starting point is 02:38:05 They'll try again in a few years, I'm sure. But for now, yeah. It wasn't gonna work to begin with. No, they tried. We should have spotted it as a epic fail. Bricks. There was African news. Hold on, African news.

Starting point is 02:38:22 Trump, Trump had another big meeting with the Africans and I realize that now he's going to keep doing these meetings until he can bring enough people in there to demand he gets a Nobel Peace Prize. President Trump hosting leaders from several African nations at the White House, all of them praising Trump's efforts to end the war between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, saying it was necessary to bring peace and open up trade talks. And today's Washington correspondent, Jack Bradley, has the details. There's great economic potential in Africa, like few other places.

Starting point is 02:38:56 President Trump hosts leaders from several African nations at the White House on Wednesday, all looking for U.S. investment. Trump says it's a change in strategy from previous administrations with a new focus on trade over aid. And these are the leaders of Liberia, Senegal, Gabon, Mauritania and Guinea. All claim to have an abundance of critical and rare earth minerals, a valuable element in making electronics. You said you had the best equipment, the best military equipment and that's what we'd like to have. You are welcome to come and invest.

Starting point is 02:39:28 Otherwise, other countries might come instead of you. We believe in your policy of making America great again. Over the past few years, several African nations have partnered with the Chinese regime economically. But in doing so for these infrastructure projects that they've built, these countries have racked up billions in debt. And now Trump says that he's working on trade deals in the region. You know, parts of Africa charge us tremendous tariffs,

Starting point is 02:39:55 as you know, and they're going to be dropping those tariffs. They've already informed me they're going to be dropping those tariffs, but we treat Africa far better than China or anybody else, any place else. The message is so clear. We're tired of winning President Trump. The funny thing is, is that it's possible. The Chinese have not, you know, they tried to be economic hit man, but they

Starting point is 02:40:19 couldn't do the job right, but they did, they, they did get these guys in debt. There's no doubt about that. And Trump's giving him a way to get out of debt. But in the meantime, the Chinese have put in the infrastructure, which is what we need to get all the minerals and stuff out of the country. Because if there's no infrastructure, you can't, you know, how you do anything. And I think this is a, the timing on this is genius by Trump. Well, this is all West Coast.

Starting point is 02:40:44 So that's ship lanes. We're going to just rock the ships up to them. Who could take all that stuff, cobalt and all the good stuff? Okay. Part two. Beautiful. Last month, the foreign ministers of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda signed a peace agreement in Washington, moving toward putting an end to a 30 year war with over

Starting point is 02:41:04 seven million deaths. peace agreement in Washington, moving toward putting an end to a 30-year war with over 7 million deaths. Trump said that the heads of those countries will soon meet in Washington to sign the final deal to end the war. You said that this put an end to a long war that claimed many lives. And thankfully, you were here to put an end to this 30-year war. A Nobel Peace Prize, well I don't see any problem with it. I think that President Trump deserves it for all the efforts that he's worked on. And he brought peace back in the Siak region, that is my region, the region where DRC and Rwanda signed a deal.

Starting point is 02:41:50 And so he is now bringing peace back into a region where that was never possible. Now this comes as President Trump announced a new round of tariffs on several countries on Wednesday. Trump says that the numbers based on each country's relative trade practices on the U.S. It's a formula based on common sense, based on deficits, based on how we've been treated over the years. Brazil, as an example, has been not good to us, not good at all. Brazil was hit with the highest, at 50%. That's as Trump claims Brazil's current president is treating the former president of Brazil, Bolsonaro,

Starting point is 02:42:29 unfairly. These tariffs take effect on August 1st. Yeah, yeah. And these are probably, were these also Chinese annexes, these countries? I think most of them on the other coast. But the thing about this peace prize, Trump is in his craw because Obama got one before even stepped foot in office.

Starting point is 02:42:54 That's right. I forgot about that. That's why he wants it. Well, that would be a reason to not want it. Like, I don't want that phony baloney peace prize. Well, that's what he'll say if he never give it to him. No, he wants the prize. I think they should award it to him and he should say no,

Starting point is 02:43:11 not until you take away Obama's. I don't think that's going to happen. And he'll say he wants it. Look at this picture. I got some video I want to show you. Meanwhile, Russia, Ukraine is, I got three clips. I want to get these out of the way. Okay, well this has got to be it then,

Starting point is 02:43:29 because we're running behind. So you're putting the screws to me. Well, I'm letting you have the last clips. Okay, well let's do that. I got just three of them. All right. So we'll start with Russia, Ukraine one. Ukrainian officials say Russia launched

Starting point is 02:43:43 its largest barrage of the war so far, sending more than 700 drones overnight. Buildings burned through the morning in the northwestern city of Lutsk, a critical hub where Ukraine receives foreign military aid. Officials say 10 other regions were also struck. The barrage comes a day after President Trump criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin's ongoing aggression

Starting point is 02:44:06 and follows a U-turn by the Trump administration on sending more military aid to Ukraine. Meanwhile... Good to see you. In Rome, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky met with U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellogg, and earlier visited Pope Leo, who again offered to host peace talks at the Vatican Moscow had previously rejected that invitation Yeah, well, you know, you know what this is This is NATO versus bricks like okay

Starting point is 02:44:37 We got all the money. We got everything in we can we can keep the by the way He hasn't sent any Patriots he sent over some shells. Well, he's gonna send some he says hey he says I don't know about that well skip to this one they go to drone attack report this is Russia this is the NTD version of the report and they got some interesting facts in here that make me think this whole thing's a sham on this is a nine-minute clip John oh geez I must not down down clipped it. Should I try the beginning? See if that's it? Yeah, see what happens. Firefighters in Ukraine are battling flames caused by a massive Russian attack on Wednesday.

Starting point is 02:45:14 Russia reportedly, again, broke its own record for the largest drone attack on Ukraine since the start of the war. Ukrainian officials say Wednesday's attack involved over 720 drones. That's an increase of nearly 200 drones compared to the previous record. The attack was mostly repelled but was intense enough to cause neighboring Poland to begin scrambling its military aircraft. No major damage or casualties have been reported. damage or casualties have been reported. Stop it. That was the clip.

Starting point is 02:45:44 Okay, good, perfect. 750 drones, nobody got killed. Well, that's kind of odd. That seems like... Nobody got... 750 drones all coming over and nobody got killed. There's nobody left. Well, I mean, there may be that issue.

Starting point is 02:46:02 But come on. That sounds like a phony baloney deal, if you ask me. Well, you heard him talk about Putin. Do you have that clip? Well, the clip that I have is the second part of the PBS clip, which maybe mentions that. Separately, Europe's top human rights court found that Russia committed widespread violations of international law in Ukraine dating back more than a decade. That includes its role in the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, where separatists controlled

Starting point is 02:46:36 Ukraine in 2014. Oh, brother. That again. 298 people were killed in that crash. The court also found Russia responsible in cases of murder, torture, and sexual violence against Ukrainian civilians, as well as the kidnappings of Ukrainian children. The Kremlin brushed off the court's ruling saying it has, quote, no intention to abide by it. Oh, yeah. No, I have the, although unfortunately I only have the censored version because God

Starting point is 02:47:02 forbid you say this word. We're not happy with Putin. I'm not happy with Putin. I can tell you that much right now because he's killing a lot of people and a lot of them are his soldiers. His soldiers and their soldiers mostly and it's now up to 7000 a week and I'm not happy with Putin. We get a lot of bullsh** thrown at us by Putin for you want to know the truth. He's very nice all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless. Do you want to say something? Does he have a sanctions bill on Russia? I'm looking at it, yeah.

Starting point is 02:47:34 I'm looking. The Senate is passing and passed a very tough sanctions bill. Yeah, I'm looking at it. Can you sign that? It's an optional bill. It's totally at my option. They passed it. What? Totally at my option and to It's totally at my option. They passed it. What?

Starting point is 02:47:45 Totally at my option and to terminate totally at my option. And I'm looking at it very strongly. He makes it sound like there's some special kind of bill that is his option. There is a bill that's getting passed and it's his option to sign it. Through the Senate, it's not in the House yet. I mean, there's little ways to go. I'm telling you, when I heard the 750 drones and nobody got injured. I mean this little way. I'm telling you when I heard the 750 drones and nobody got injured it sounds a little weak

Starting point is 02:48:15 This whole thing sounds like some sort of phony baloney deal. I think it's gonna be resolved after they have the ceasefire Yes, you know Hamas the Hamas. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right you and you and it will be an armistice It will not be there will not be a truce or anything like that. It'll be like North Korea You got to keep that in there to keep the NATO. I like that idea armistice so that we do with a DMZ and demilitarized zone, which I've been saying for years and Did you know NATO No, of course not. Did you hear the the so-called leaked footage of the president saying I I told him I'm going to bomb Moscow.

Starting point is 02:48:48 I'll bomb everybody. Did you hear that? It's unusable for the show. No, I did not. Oh, yeah. Apparently it's real. He was saying, I told him I'd bomb Moscow if you didn't quit it out. Yeah, baby. War. what is it good for? I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah that'd be fab. Yeah on No Agenda in the morning. Pretty short list today but we will thank the rest of our donors $50 and above and still to come We've got some dynamite in the show mixes John's tip of the day and we have some nights to congratulate along with the meetup report Sir, ever the watch starts us off in Linwood, Michigan. How one two, three, four five

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Starting point is 02:59:11 I want to mention the Club Mallard meet up next Saturday. I'll be there. Yes, Albany. John's getting out of the house, everybody. This is something to witness. Go get your picture taken with him. It's great. It'll be a collectible one day.

Starting point is 02:59:25 Yeah. Oh, absolutely. IsoTime, I have my three. I'm ready to roll them out before yours. These are real ones, not AI generated. Here we go. Seriously, we need to release the F-scene list. Okay.

Starting point is 02:59:39 That would be a good one for this particular show. We have this one. Who is that? Was that Glenn Beck? No, that's JD Vance. That's your vice president. Oh, that's from the... Yeah. Seriously, we need to release the F-scene list. Might be a good one for this show. We have this one. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. And I like this one too. So I'm always anti-boomer. Always anti-boomer. Yeah, I don't like the last one. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. I

Starting point is 03:00:10 Usable I have three also you got three. I'm sorry was unbelievable unbelievable unbelievable Some good AI just like Trump muddy muddy Coasted nobody coasted on that show nice Nah, too over the top. Again. That was great. Play it again. I don't know, man. I think that... Ha ha ha ha ha! Seriously, we need to release the F-scene list.

Starting point is 03:00:35 I think that's the one. I think that's the one for today. But we don't do any of that before we get to John's tip of the day. And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti. I had a rare power outage the other day. Oh, wow. You don't have a Jenny. No, I don't need one. It's the first time in 20 years. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 03:01:04 But I'm on the same circuit as the police and fire departments. Hold on. That's not true. You had a power outage that lasted hours. Yeah, but I'm talking about a real power. I'm not talking about a momentary thing. Oh, okay. This would, like, at night, like at nine o'clock, boom, power goes out, pitch black. Okay. And which is rare because I'm on the same circuit as the police department, the fire department, they give us priorities.

Starting point is 03:01:30 So somebody hit a pole or something. So Mimi gets all freaked out. So she's, she got me a couple of items. I'm going to, the next two items will be, you got a power outage. She got you blackout items. Okay. She got me some blackout items that are pretty cool. And the one I've today's is the energizer, it's called Energizer Lights.

Starting point is 03:01:53 You can look it up on Amazon. It's Energizer Lights. It comes in a three pack and it's for power outages. It's like a little flashlights that are plugged in. They plug into the wall socket and stay charged. And then if the power goes out, it triggers these things to turn on. So you know where they are,

Starting point is 03:02:14 cause it lights up that little area, cause the power, it's a little flash that lights up. So you won't stub your toe. Yeah, exactly. Believe me, I had to wall hug to get to where I knew some flashlights weren't I found it to be distressing. Wow. What else did she get you?

Starting point is 03:02:33 This is great. Well, the other ones I'll have on the next show, but this is the first one. You know what we had? Can I just say what we had in Holland growing up? A Knaipkot. This is a Dutch product, Knaipkot, K-N-I-J-P-K-A-T, which means squeeze cat, I don't know why. And you squeeze it repetitively, kind of like a handbrake,

Starting point is 03:03:00 and it lights up. So it's a flashlight that you keep. Well, I like that idea of a thing that charges like that, but the problem is you still have to find it in the pitch black dark, you know, unless you carry it with you all the time. That's why I like these lights, because they light up. You need it on a lanyard around your neck at all times.

Starting point is 03:03:17 Yeah, you could. Next to your lifeler. By the way, the Energizer lights are three for about, you get three in a box for about 20 bucks. So right now they're on Amazon Prime sales. So today's the last day if you want to get them cheap. And it's handy. The idea is solid.

Starting point is 03:03:34 I don't think it's gonna ever be something I'm gonna actually need. But if I, I'll have them at least. I won't have to fumble around. I'm gonna see if I can find a Knaip cut on Amazon. Yeah, find it, put it up, post it. Just send me a link. Yeah, it's Amazon day, so it's probably cheap too.

Starting point is 03:03:50 And that will conclude John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day. Go to tipoftheday.net to see them all and collect them. Create advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes, add them. Created by Dana Bernetti. I'm telling you, collect them all. Collect all of John C. Dvorak's tip of the day.

Starting point is 03:04:10 It's going to be dynamite, all collectible at one point in time. Okay, so we've got some real end of show mixes. Bdub12, Man vs. Machine, Sir Michael Anthony returns Professor Jay Jones and ID pop Brand new to the end of show mixers. They took it to heart man They don't want the AI ruining the show because that's what they say. It's gonna ruin the whole show And we have if you want to stay tuned to troll room dot IO or on your modern podcast I've got the two good just two good old boys coming up next. That's Darren and Gene and they will be talking about the suppressor tax redux. Always about

Starting point is 03:04:55 something with those two good old boys. Always something some firearm stuff. It's beautiful. And I will return with John on Sunday for another three hours plus of media deconstruction. I'll be back home in Austin, Texas. Until then, remember us at noahjindlandonations.com. In the morning, everybody, my Madam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm gonna go comb my hair, I'm John C. DeVorek.

Starting point is 03:05:23 We'll see you on Sunday. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey, and such. Valley where I'm gonna go comb my hair. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll see you on Sunday. Until then, adios, muv-os, a hooey, hooey, and such! Mic check. ITM, JCD, and AC. V for V. Well, I guess the gauntlet has been thrown down to the ground for end of show, man verse machine we'll come out clean with such a sheen but no ego, we're shining with a righteous light no spook but sparking up the night cause I got sword, I got control then I can hold

Starting point is 03:05:58 the microphone hitting you with a little bit of hip hop funky drums with no delivery from tiktok creative sleighs escape the maze and numbing haze of the algo metallic bolts and mac and cheese i'm stacking sats through fountain streets decentralized with open eyes i see the lies in their emo these laughs i'm passing the mic to you for the next end of show song man pick it up. Whoa, the Sound Clowns. It's a media circus. Circus. Good thing we got this gifmo nation.

Starting point is 03:06:34 Media assassination. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epsin? Jeffrey Epsin? Jeffrey Epsin? A lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information. Sitting on my desk right now to review. Don't trust anyone. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't trust anyone.

Starting point is 03:06:55 Me included. How the hell do you lose evidence in a case this big? Bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys. Are you still talking about Jeffery, I'm Jeffery, I about Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein. Bad guys. I'm sitting on my desk right now to review a- Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't trust anyone. Me, me, me and- Bad guys.

Starting point is 03:07:09 I usually talk about Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein. Bad guys. A lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information. It's not there. Well, the Trump administration is pushing back against Trump. It's not there. It's not there.

Starting point is 03:07:17 It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. It's not there. Jeffrey Epstein. Bad guys. A lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information.

Starting point is 03:07:25 It's not there. The Trump administration is pushing back against calls to fire Attorney General Pam Bondi over her handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? It's strange to me too. The accused sex trafficker did not keep a secret client list. It's easy to sum it up. The accused sex trafficker did not keep a secret client list People still talking about this guy is creepy

Starting point is 03:07:58 It's sitting on my desk right now to review I can't believe you're asking a question on that, Epstein. What are we talking about? Practice? Bondi's saying that is a technical glitch that happens every night. I know I'm supposed to be by his name. But he is truly his brother's keeper. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

Starting point is 03:08:17 It's funny to me, too. Earlier this year, she said she had Epstein's list in her office. Not a game, not a game. And I've spiked down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger. Time. This raised me too. So you guys ready? I need to know that you're ready.

Starting point is 03:08:42 Um, let's talk about war first. I need to know that you're ready! Um, let's talk about war for a second. I need to know that you're ready for war! War! What is it good for? Nothing. Say it again. War! What is it good for?

Starting point is 03:08:58 Nothing. Why don't they go out? No, why? But hey, we're gonna do a ceasefire. You tell us to do it. They've had enough, and they're ready for the war to end. Enough war! Huh! What is it good for?

Starting point is 03:09:17 Nothin'. Say it again. War! Huh! What is it good for? Nothin'. Uh... Double-Minute Fuck! Sure to bring us down!

Starting point is 03:09:29 The media incites civil unrest! Hatred can bring you down! War! We don't need no war! I can't take it any longer. War! Yeah! I can't take it any longer. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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