No Agenda - 1783 - "Dadgum"

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, look what you got there. I see what you're doing. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, July 20th, 2025. This is your award-winning give on Asian media assassination episode 1783. This is No Agenda. Posing for the Kiss Cam and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're trying to bring back the term daddy-o.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I was gonna try and slip it in during the show, but now you've given it away. Yup. I thought it was a good idea. Bring back daddy-o, hey daddy-o.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Cause it's a vibe, man. It's a vibe. Oh, so we got a note from some guy explaining vibe. Well, it's a vibe. Not just vibe, it's a vibe. You got to say it right. It's a vibe. I'm not saying it at all. It's interesting, I guess. I don't think it has legs.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, what do you mean? This is all over the place. It's already, it's in. I've never heard it except on the show. Well I don't expect people to say it at Costco. Hey, hey man, that wine, it's a vibe. It's a vibe, man. That wine's a vibe.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I don't say it. The Chevron station. Yeah. Well, hey, how was your meetup? You had to get John out of the house meetup. It wasn't as good as it usually is, but it was okay. They're generous, at least this group. I have the meetup stuff that I'll read during the donation segment. So they were generous, but it wasn't good? No, they were generous, but the numbers were like 20 people maybe
Starting point is 00:01:48 Well, my meetup was exactly six including me How many six? Okay. Well this brings us to a point of discussion then well Okay, but remind me to tell you about the meetup because it was a special kind of meetup So go ahead with your point of discussion a special kind of meetup because it was a special kind of meetup. So go ahead with your point of discussion. A special kind of meetup? What was it some sort of cabal, gay cabal thing or something like that? Yeah, John, that's exactly right. That makes so much sense. A gay cabal in Fredericksburg, Texas. Yeah, that's what's going on.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It could be. No, this was organized by Evert Bopp. Oh, this is your Dutch guy. This is the Dutch cabal. Yes. But you know what this Dutch cabal is? So Avert who- Spooks. No.
Starting point is 00:02:35 He has a nonprofit called Disaster Tech Lab, disastertechlab.org. And he goes all over the world whenever there's a disaster he brings in Wi-Fi networks So he brings in he has all this donated gear and he is so of course He was here for the for the floods in Kerr County and he was in hunt and center point Then he sets up these huge mesh network so people can communicate That's that's cool. It's very cool.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And he's been doing it for 15 years. He said, well, it's the first time I've been here. And since I was just down the road, I figured I might as well do a meetup. And Texas Slim came. Texas Slim, he was taking $10,000 worth of ground beef down to the Mercy Chefs to feed all of the volunteers and first responders. And let's see, we had Richard from Austin. He's a coder.
Starting point is 00:03:30 He came up. And of course we had Willie, Willie, my, my, my chess partner. He showed up as well. So Mimi has a friend that's something like this, a woman who goes to disaster zones and she's a specialist. a woman who goes to disaster zones and she's a specialist. She has a kind of a, I guess a horde or a group of cadaver dogs. Oh, and boy we need them.
Starting point is 00:03:54 They only had one dog, which was not enough. Yeah, this woman, she should have known about this and that idea, because she'd be down there. She has these cadaver dogs and I guess there's like three German Shepherds or whatever dog it is and they just are experts at this. Yeah, well, Aford was telling us some of the horror stories, which I won't repeat, of what people were finding. It was not great. Yeah, it was gross.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah, very gross. But it was a nice meetup. And so I said, so who funds it? Well, we have individual donors. We have some government support, but not very much. He gets all of his gear donated except for one company. So all the Wi-Fi and he leaves it behind. So it's donated, he leaves it behind, he gets new gear. Guess which company doesn't donate and charges full retail price for everything he does? Starlink.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yes, exactly. He says, hey, can I get a discount? No. Best price. You pay now. Starlink. No, Starlink. No deals for the nonprofit. The guy going down there in the disaster area. And then he said, you know, I think Starlink is taking a beating on the technology anyway. They can't afford to give it away. I'm sure they are. And he said, you know, and I was in, and he said, I said, so, so what's it like on the
Starting point is 00:05:25 ground? I said, oh, the government people, they're just in the way. They suck. And he was, you know, he says, oh, the, the, in Texas. Well, that's a shocker. Yeah, I know. He says, you guys in Texas are well organized. And he even told the story about how he was invited to go to the White House.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He said, so I walk in and it's basically a huge Zoom call with all of the regional FEMA managers. And they're all, and they're listening to his story and they go like, yeah, yeah, we really want to hear how we can innovate. What can we do to innovate? He's like, well, why don't you deploy the stuff that works today?
Starting point is 00:05:58 The stuff that I'm doing, do that. And of course the government bozos, I don't want to say they're all bozos. Not invented here. Yeah, well no, they want to buy stuff. Oh, you got to innovate. We got to do something. We got to budget.
Starting point is 00:06:12 We got to spend the money. You got to spend the taxpayer's money. Got to spend the money, yeah. He says it was really disappointing, but he's been all over. Very interesting guy. So anyway, that was just a fun meetup. Now, you wanted to discuss meetups briefly? Yeah, Mimi's noticing that there's been a fall off in the number of meetups that people are happening.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And there's meetup that the Albany meetup was interesting because Steve had taught, I talked to Steve who's- Ricalston crazy Steve. Ricalston Steve. And he said there's a bunch of RSVPs that didn't show up. There's a couple of people I expected to see. They didn't show up. And it was gloomy though.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I mean, we have a Bay Area July. It was gloomy. It was cold. It was gloomy. And gloomy. And, but Mimi's noticing that the huge drop off in meetups. The next one's on the 25th, that she, I think, documents coming up.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But is she saying this is across the board meetups? Yes, yes. It's like worldwide phenomenon. Oh, it's a global thing, oh no. And I'm thinking that this is, you know, there's a mood. Oh, no, it's a mood. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:26 There's a mood. But it's a, it's a worldwide depression. I'm blaming Trump. Oh, do tell. Well, I don't know why I'm blaming him, but he seems like a good guy to blame. We might as good a guy as any to blame for. Hey, stop it. I mean, you blame the president, it's the guy who sets some sort of a standard
Starting point is 00:07:43 in whatever, and I'm not blaming him the way the Midas touch might, but for everything, from the guy who has a bad bowel movement, he blames Trump. I mean, that's a terrible podcast. It's a great podcast. But it's noticeable. Yeah. Interesting. And that's why your number doesn't surprise me at all you I don't care you're there there's enough you have enough local that just Parker came Parker he's local either Parker okay you have a you know
Starting point is 00:08:18 that number should have been 40 no we only had like two show advance warning. So it takes a lot of promotion to get people to come out. And Richard was a first timer. Relating this to my experience, the lack of the people at RCP, Steve, I don't even know why you bothered doing that at the Mallard, but he did that anyway and they didn't show up and the people that I expect see it didn't show up. And Mimi's noticeable, she notices a worldwide basis. Well, there's a couple of things that are happening. The one is, you know, meetups used to be very sparse.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And then it would be like, oh, okay, there's a meetup. I'm gonna go. Could it be once every six months or something. Now people are doing them often. So they're repeats. And, you know, people have other things to do. You're gonna think what you're gonna go toward is meetup burnout. Meetup fatigue. Meetup fatigue.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I like burnout better. Okay. So that could be part of it. Also, a lot of there's, you know, what is permeating throughout all of culture right now is these meetups, they all put together chat groups. Okay, so they have okay, so they have chat groups, they have telegram channels, and they're all doing all their thing there. And so they really have nothing to discuss when
Starting point is 00:09:42 they show up in in person. And they're a little bit wary because now they know all of these how these people really think because of course what is the number one topic on every single no agenda group. But Epstein? Yeah of course Mossad, blackmail, yeah Jews. I mean Jews. Jews. So I think people are also just like, I don't feel like talking about this stuff anymore. Well, I think that's a rationalization. And I'll tell you why I say that.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It's a good rationalization. I think it's reasonable. It reminds me of stock market analysis. The market goes up for this reason. the market goes down for the same reason. How does that make sense? Somebody sent me a video today of this red light district, a long film from this month, the red light district in Thailand, a walkthrough. Well, wait a minute, where in Thailand? It's a rather big place.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I've been to a couple. The red light district. It's got a name. I can look it up. Potpong? No, it's not that. I can tell you what it is. Because they have them all over the place. No, but the big one. You can look it up. It's Potpong. It's Pattaya. Pattaya. Pattaya is a tourist destination. Yeah. And it's a red light district. And it's a tourist destination.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You're right. It's notorious. You can just Google it. P-A-T-T-A-Y-A. So this guy took a video and he's walking through the area. I'd say thousands of hookers and hundreds and hundreds of nightclubs. I've seen areas like this around the world and it's just like loaded with nightclubs and hookers Nobody oh, it's empty nobody's there hmm
Starting point is 00:11:38 And he's walking this guy is some British guy and he's walking through the area. He takes this a long film It's like I got it up here. It's 30 minutes walking guy and he's walking through the area. It's a long film. It's like, I got it up here. It's 30 minutes walking around. And there's literally, I mean, there's a few motorcycles go by, you know, motor scooters. Now are these the girls that have the number badges on? They have all kinds of different, some of them hold up signs. There's thousands of them. But the point is, the point I'm making here is not about the girls or how they sell themselves,
Starting point is 00:12:07 but it's the fact that the place was empty. So hooker meetups are also down. So I'm thinking that there's a downturn in, you know, there's always these discussions about, you know, people aren't coupling up anymore. Oh, oh, oh, no, no, you nailed it. You nailed it. Everybody's sitting at home on talking to their chatbot. They don't have anything left to say.
Starting point is 00:12:30 They've already told chat GPT about it and Annie. They're all talked out. It's a possibility. Yeah. Hmm. But it's a worldwide phenomenon. So it's happening on our meetups where this is not good. Well, it's not like we can do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:12:54 We can bitch and moan. That's what we do. That doesn't help. Also, people are afraid to go out. People are afraid to go out. It makes me feel better. People are afraid to go out. Like you go to a Coldplay concert and all of a sudden, of a sudden you're on the kiss cam and you're divorced.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Or the best story of the week. That was really interesting because that dominated social media with memes and apparently... Well, there's a good reason for it because it pointed out the hypocrisy of the HR departments, the lack of, you can't mingle in the office, even though some people think it's a good idea, but it's against the rules. And the basic hypocrisy and then the embarrassment,
Starting point is 00:13:36 which would like a lot of, almost everybody says the same thing, there was a Coldplay concert. If they hadn't freaked out, which is embarrassing enough to go to, but if they hadn't freaked out, the girl, by the way, is the one who panicked immediately and then the guy ditched himself. Did you see that some baseball games had a Coldplay cam and then they focused in on people and then they'd immediately dive down and hide.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Even the players, they were on the Coldplay cam, they ran back into the dugout. Oh, that's funny. It was good. I think it's also, we live in such a broken world where everybody either knows what it's like to get caught cheating, is currently cheating or is thought about cheating. I think it was very relatable. Well, it was pretty funny. And then to be caught cheating with your HR lady at a Coldplay
Starting point is 00:14:32 concert, it's like a triple threat. It's the worst thing you can imagine. You can't beat it. It can't get much worse. Really was, really was. Well, then we have the story that everybody in M5M, remember we are a media deconstruction podcast, we have to talk about this because they were losing their ever loving minds over it and everybody of course related it immediately to the president due to a number of confluences
Starting point is 00:15:04 and things happening with with media and this is the cancellation of the Colbert show breaking news CBS is canceling the late show with Stephen Colbert Colbert just making the shocking announcement show taping shock it's unclear why the show is canceled but it comes after Colbert spoke out. I just got to listen to it because that's the whole point of playing these clips at all. ...his parent company Paramount's $16 million settlement with Trump over the editing of
Starting point is 00:15:35 a 60 minutes interview. In fact, here's what Colbert said just a few days ago. Now I believe this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles. It's Big Fat Bribe because this all comes as Paramount's owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve the sale of our network to a new owner, Skydance. So they bring on their own media deconstructionist, the one and only Brian Seltzerwater to discuss what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And now hearing that that show is canceled, Brian Stelter's out front. I mean, Brian- I love the cadence. And now hearing that that show is canceled. Oh no, it's canceled. And now hearing that that show is canceled, Brian Stelter's out front. I mean, Brian, what more are you learning- Brian. About what is frankly a stunning announcement?
Starting point is 00:16:27 Brian. What? She said, I mean, Brian. What is that sentence supposed to… Oh, she did that too. This is a new thing. Well, this is when they really don't… I think you say, I mean…
Starting point is 00:16:38 I mean, Brian. I mean, Adam. I mean, like, come on. It's like, I mean, like, this is no good. Brian Stelter's out front. I mean, Brian, what more are you learning about what is, frankly, a stunning announcement? When we were talking about it, just found out about it here.
Starting point is 00:16:51 It is absolutely. I said, wait, what? Absolutely. What? What just happened? It really doesn't make any sense from the normal business logic of television goes like this. Stephen Colbert is the highest rated program in late night television. He beats his television. He beats his competitors. He's been going at it for 10 years and frankly he's been on a hot streak
Starting point is 00:17:09 lately. So by the business logic of television, normally he would be in a very safe spot. However, CBS says this is a financial decision given the difficulties with the entire late night sector. And there is some truth to that explanation. I reported a couple of years ago about the late late show ending with James Corden because it wasn't profitable anymore. So there might be some, some rationale to this CBS announcement, but almost everybody upon hearing about this
Starting point is 00:17:39 is connecting it to the Paramount settlement from two weeks ago. Cause as you said, it was just two weeks ago that President Trump struck a deal with the parent of CBS, that $60 million settlement. Of course, Trump later said that there were other terms on top of the $16 million. He referenced getting public service announcements from CBS, for example. And all this comes as one owner of CBS, Sherry Redstone, is about to hand off to a new owner, David Elliston, excuse me, David Elliston, and his company
Starting point is 00:18:06 Skydance Media. There have been speculation raging online for the last two weeks about whether Skydance was going to try to push Colbert out. In fact, this has been such a hot topic that Colbert came back from vacation on Monday and he made jokes about it. He said he had a new mustache and so the new owners wouldn't be able to find him. So on Monday, Colbert was joking about possibly being in danger. On Wednesday, he found out his show was being canceled.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Tonight, he announced it. And this all takes effect next May. And so he does have one more season. But this means one of these staunchest Trump critics on television will be leaving. And you know, you did the exact same thing that I did. It's like, huh, I wonder, first of all, we heard 2.1 million people watching 200, 200 people on staff. And I don't think those are shared resources. You know, you got the studio and everything. It's
Starting point is 00:18:57 every single day. And you know, I did the same thing. I'm like, what what's in the demo? And the demo is, it was like, I think you had 200,000 in the newsletter. I think I came up with 231,000. I mean, we have more people in the demo on this podcast. Yeah. And we're losing. Corey, I thought I wrote up a fairly good analysis
Starting point is 00:19:22 in the newsletter. People should be a subscriber. I don't get it that they don't. But they mentioned, they've been losing $40 million a year on this show. There's your issue right there. And there's your issue. And the numbers suck.
Starting point is 00:19:40 If he gets two million viewers, Gutfeld gets at least three, and he only has 60 million households, and they have 300 million households. Doesn't make any sense. Gutfeld's got 30 people, he's got 200. Even that's too much, 30 people. Probably. For that show.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Someone to polish his shoes. I mean, what do you do with 200 people? I have no idea what you do with 200 people. And if, and then if you, it all traces back to Johnny Carson, I have his numbers. He would typically was doing 17, 17 million, a show up to 45 million, a show as opposed to 2 million. It's untenable. It's stupid. And they're making a big fuss. I, by the way, I do have Colbert's total.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, we have that. We got that. The whole thing? Yeah, I have the whole thing, but I clipped it way down because there was too much hooting and aside. I took the asides out and I took the hoots out. Okay. Can I just say one thing? Say whatever you want. Say two things.
Starting point is 00:20:44 No, I'll just say one thing, if that's OK. They late night lost their entire audience during the writer's strike. Everybody got on TikTok at night. It was the height of TikTok and they never came back.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And why would they? It's much more entertaining than they hear him just gripe and moan and watch the two segments with a film clip. The format is old, it's beat. You know, the kids. As I point out in the essay, the format was started by Steve Allen in 1954
Starting point is 00:21:20 and has not changed since. That's 70 years of the same old same old no wonder is dead. Yeah and you know it's all pre-interview questions so hey um you had a funny thing happen to you this week tell me about that. The pre-interview questions ruin the show. Yes which is exactly why Adam and John do not talk to each other outside of the show. Yeah, and we wouldn't anyway. No, for obvious reasons. All right, I'll play the whole opening thing then. This is Colbert's, I think it was Monday he opened with this
Starting point is 00:21:56 bitching about this. And I want to point out one other thing. This idea that this was a $16 million dollar deal where it were they caved to Trump's lawsuit Mm-hmm was part of to get the Sherry Redstone her you know her her Skydance They had to do this to get the skydance thing to go through because the administration was good squash it Otherwise the administration the Trump administration was never going to quash it otherwise. The administration, the Trump administration was never going to quash this. This was Larry Ellison's son that runs Skydance. Larry Ellison's a huge Trump supporter. If he wants to do a merger with Paramount, the Trump administration is not going to stop it whether Colbert's there or not. Yeah and I'll give him this though.
Starting point is 00:22:46 If you're polishing up the product to sell it, you probably want to get rid of the $40 million a year loss. Loser. Yeah. It's like, hey, we'll take care of Colbert. We'll get rid of all the other losing things. We'll take care of you. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Now, here's the opening monologue polished up. My parent corporation Paramount paid Donald Trump a $16 million settlement over his 60 minutes lawsuit. As someone who has always been a proud employee of this network, I'm offended. And I don't know if anything will ever repair my trust in this company, but just taking a stab at it, I'd say $16 million would help.
Starting point is 00:23:24 This settlement is for a nuisance lawsuit Trump filed claiming that 60 Minutes deceptively edited their interview with then candidate Kamala Harris last fall. Paramount knows they could have easily fought it because in their own words, the lawsuit was completely without merit. Unlike the payoffs from ABC and Twitter, Paramount Settlement did not include an apology. Instead, that's good. Instead, the corporation released a statement where they said, you may take our money, but you will never take our dignity.
Starting point is 00:23:53 You may, however, purchase our dignity for the low, low price of $16 million. We need the cash. Now, I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles. It's Big Fat Bride. Because this all comes as Paramount's owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve the sale of our network to a new owner, Skydance. And some of the TV typers out there are blogging that once Skydance gets CBS, the new owner's
Starting point is 00:24:22 desire to please Trump could put pressure on late-night host and frequent Trump critic Stephen Colbert I guarantee you he already knew what was happening when he did that He already knew 90% certainty that his show was good that the late-night show the franchise was going to go away He had nothing to lose. Well, maybe not, but like somebody pointed out, uh, and one of the other shows is that if you're, may you can say whatever you want about the networks because, uh, Letterman used to go after, uh, uh, NBC and Carson always made jokes.
Starting point is 00:25:05 As long as you're making, if you're making tons of money, used to go after NBC and Carson always made jokes. As long as you're making, if you're making tons of money, who cares, say whatever you want. No cares. But if you're losing 40 million, that's probably so then we get the out. I actually had one of the, oh by the way, the other number was it's a hundred million dollars a year to produce that show. Yes, a lot of money. We, uh, so other number was, it's $100 million a year to produce that show. That's a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:25:28 So there was a conversation with the Podcasting 2.0 group. That group, we only discuss podcasting stuff. And in fact, I discourage it and remind people, like, can you take your political stuff somewhere else? Because the political opinions vary widely and we get along pretty well. But then, so one guy, he says, he said, you know, he posted the notice of, oh, this is insane. It's like Colbert, Trump critic Colbert's show getting canceled. And then so the follow up
Starting point is 00:26:07 is, ah, Jon Stewart, another critic of rapist felon Trump. Will they silence Kimmel next? And so I pop in, I said, hey, look, look, 200 people, 2.1 million viewers do the math. And then it comes back. And then it's like, why are you defending rapist pedophile Trump? I'm like, you know what? I'm out. Why don't you hit me up on the blue sky, bro, and I'll talk to you over there. It's like, what is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Don't you understand basic numbers? And here's Chris Murphy, Democrat representative from Connecticut on his very important Instagram. So I want to tell you why the cancellation of Stephen Colbert's show matters so much. We are on the precipice of entering a censorship state in which Donald Trump is using the powers of the federal government in order to erase criticism from the airwaves. What's happening at CBS right now is bone chilling. So this is parent company Paramount is trying to get a merger approved and they need that merger to be approved by the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And so in a variety of different ways, Paramount is providing monetary and political favors to Donald Trump. First they settled a totally bogus lawsuit that they would have won in a walk in court that was filed against them by Trump. They essentially just paid him $16 million personally. Then Paramount went to 60 Minutes, their flagship news program, and told them to stop criticizing Donald Trump so much. Why? Because they need this merger. That's not what they said from what I heard.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And then finally, they have now canceled Stephen Colbert's show, knowing that Stephen Colbert was a nightly thorn in the side of Donald Trump. This is all clearly designed to get their merger approved so that their millionaire and billionaire owners and investors who are already filthy rich can become even more filthy rich. Oh, blame it on the rich. This is what happens when these massive corporations control the flow of information at the same time that you have an administration that is shameless about using the official powers given to them by the Constitution and by statute in order to compel political loyalty from the owners of those media companies. This is a really really dangerous moment.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Tom, those dangerous moments. He wasn't doing well. He was the highest rated show on TV in late night. He was canceled very likely because Paramount and its owners are trying to get rich off of this merger. And Donald Trump has made it clear to them and everybody else in the media space that if you want any favors from me, then you have to silence my critics on your platforms. So this is, this is what I love so much about it, because it folds into the whole PBS NPR defunding, is here's a guy who probably gets more traction
Starting point is 00:29:13 from this one post, including 800,000 plus people hearing on the No Agenda show. It was like, well, they're controlling the flow of information, man. Oh, really? It's like, no, I think CBS was pretty smart to do this now because it came at the right moment where, you know, Trump, man, he wants to shut down the flow of information to NPR and PBS.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Relations between Donald Trump and the press have been tense since he first became president. I'm not going to give you a question. You are fake news. In mandate number two, the U.S. president has multiplied lawsuits against news organizations criticizing their coverage. In the latest case, he's opposing Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal for publishing a story about his friendship with child sex offender and alleged sex trafficker of underage girls, Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Trump says the story is fake and deliberately damaging, but the publisher is standing by it, refusing to cave in to pressure. In some of the previous cases, news companies chose to settle, like ABC and Paramount, who own CBS. Media watchdog Reporters Without Borders says the U.S. president has a clear strategy to weaken the press, similar to ones used in other countries. This includes the defunding of public media, smearing journalists, and taking measures against reporters who use words he does not approve of. US news agency AP has been banned from White House briefings since they refused to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.
Starting point is 00:31:00 At a time where we've never had more media than the in all of human civilization, where everybody has a podcast, everybody's on TikTok, everybody's on Instagram, where the president is being is being dragged by his own fans of MAGA. He's not controlling any flow of information, you dopes. But oh, of course, NPR defunding. What will we do in an emergency in Republican states? Public radio and television stations will start to lose some of their funding in October after Congress approved a rare rescissions package requested by President Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:31:40 that claws back $1.1 billion previously allocated for public media. That sum is all of the federal funding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was set to receive over the next two years. That money is supposed to help fund 1,500 locally owned and operated stations in addition to NPR and PBS. But experts who study the local news landscape caution the move could have dire effects. Tim Franklin runs the local news initiative at caution, the move could have dire effects. Dire! Tim Franklin runs the local news initiative at the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University. He says somewhere between 40 and 80 local public radio stations could be forced to shut
Starting point is 00:32:15 down across the country, leaving the communities they serve with limited access to critical information. We are not going to waver in our mission, which is to deliver independent local journalism that we think is really important for our democracy. WBEZ is more insulated from the cuts than rural stations. It'll lose 6% of its funding, and it's stepping up membership drives hoping it won't have to limit community events to make up the difference. Other stations across the state are anticipating budget cuts up to 50 percent, a gap listeners or sponsors may not be able to bridge.
Starting point is 00:32:49 This is a huge disruption and the public media that you knew yesterday will not be the public media that you know tomorrow. Good! Heather Norman is president of the Illinois Public Broadcasting Council. She says some communities may start to see consolidation with less local coverage. And she notes there are families who may not have access to cable or streaming services who depend on the work of public media. When we were in Springfield for our legislative day, person after person came up to our table
Starting point is 00:33:18 and said, my child learned by watching PBS. Yeah. Now— And became a trend. There's never been a better time in history in the past 20 years to start a hyper local podcast. This hole in the media landscape is so big you could swing a 747 around in it. Well, you need something because all the local newspapers have.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Gone. It's all gone. Or it's tarred. Like we have one paper here. The Fredericksburg standard radio flyer post-gazette. Hey, it's all just left, left, left wing. It's no good. It's left wing.
Starting point is 00:34:00 If it's even that good, some of them don't even, are you even left or right wing, they're nothing. They don't even do any reporting. But there was some text, one of the Texas guys, I didn't get a clip of it going on about this NPR local all-important it is, one of your boys down there said, you know, I was around the area when the flood started to hit and it was all the local stations that were talking about it. NPR was playing some crap from Washington DC. They played nothing. They gave us no warnings. They were so unlocal. It's ridiculous. And NPR themselves say it was 1% of their budget. Why is anybody making a fuss about this? Because Donald Trump is trying to stop the flow of information that is important to our
Starting point is 00:34:46 democracy. Vote Democrats. NPR themselves said it's 1%. I know. I mean, why are you fighting me, bro? I'm fighting you, bro. Don't fight me, bro. That's not the vibe on this show.
Starting point is 00:35:01 The mood. The mood, yes. The f***? on this show. The mood. The mood, yes. By the way, since you brought up Larry Ellison, I was shocked and appalled by a statement he made. I guess we missed this. There must've been some kind of conference or some, when they launched Stargate and what was it? $500 billion were putting into this thing
Starting point is 00:35:27 But there is real building going on in West Texas, but I don't about 500 billion Listen to what Larry Ellison touts as the benefits of AI for our society Which now you know, he is partially funding listen Listen to this. The police will be on their best behavior because we're constantly watching and recording everything that's going on. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And it's unimpeachable. The cars have cameras on them. I think we have a squad car here someplace. But those kind of applications using ‑‑ we can use ‑‑ and we're using AI to monitor the video. So if that altercation had occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified. It's not people looking at those cameras, it's AI looking at the cameras. No, no, no, you can't do this. It would be like a shooting. That's going to be immediately ‑‑ that's going to be an event that's immediately ‑‑ an alarm is going to go off. It's going to be ‑‑ and we're going to have
Starting point is 00:36:41 supervision. In other words, every police officer is going to be supervised at all times. And the supervision will ‑‑ and if there's a problem, AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate person, whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whomever we need to take control of the situation. Same thing, we have drones. If there's something going on in a shopping center and I'll stop, a drone goes out there and gets there way faster than a police car. There's no reason for, by the way, high‑speed chases. You shouldn't have high‑speed chases between cars. You just have a drone follow the car. I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:37:18 very simple. And then new generation of autonomous drones. And then have the drone shoot the car with a cruise missile. But what kind of dystopian world does Larry Ellison go fly a drone over Ellison's house? This is a guy who doesn't talk about not leaving the house. For one thing, Oakland, let's just look at Oakland with or without AI, there'll be a robbery on Hagenberger. It takes 45 minutes to an hour for the cops to show up if they show up. A lot of times the Oakland merchants always say they never show up. They don't show up. Or the fact that Oakland is the only place that had an In-N-Out Burger closed in the
Starting point is 00:38:03 entire state of California because there's so much crime in and around the In-N-Out Burger closed in the entire state of California because there's so much crime in and around the In-N-Out Burger, which is at the intersection of the freeway and Hagenberger wrote a major, major intersection. And now the CEO is leaving California. And the CEO, yes, I don't have the clip of going on about it, but she's the CEO of, and she's moving the entire corporate headquarters to Tennessee to, uh, one of the little towns there, Franklin to be on it, to be specific. She's moving to Franklin, Tennessee, and they're going to use their, uh, and they may start moving in and out burgers further East. Uh, and she says it's almost impossible to do business in California. That's that
Starting point is 00:38:45 Gavin Newsom and the Democrats, they don't want you doing business here, they want it to be a communist state. Yes, and you want to stay there. It's amazing. It's a cycle. It's gonna be dynamite when these guys get back, when the cycle goes the other way. It's gonna go crazy. Will we outlive the cycle is the question. Well, it's a real problem to think about that. But okay, I'm hanging in there. It gives me hope. Hope and change is coming everybody. Hope and change.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And so, yeah. So, Ellison, I don't know what he's thinking. This is nuts. None of this is even close to being accurate the way police work. It's just dumb. But okay, it's a nice thought, I guess. Not even a nice thought, it's kind of sinister. It's very sinister.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Oh, is it have a drone? Yeah, what's going to happen is you live in a nice community, you know, a gated community with your multimillion-dollar home and you'll have a private police force. Everybody else gets Larry Ellison's drone following them. Pfft! Well, I'm still waiting for the day. police force. Everybody else gets Larry Ellison's drone following them. Well, I'm still waiting for the day. Well, for one thing, I'm still waiting for two things to happen, which will eventually in the future. One is drone war, real drone warfare,
Starting point is 00:39:55 where 1 million drones attack something. That would be kind of hard to fend off no matter what you do. And then the other one is like, you're sitting in the office here. You know, I'm on the, my house and then I look out the window and there's a drone just hovering outside the window looking at me. Yeah. That happens all the time. Now you can go on your favorite app there, Tik Tok and you can see people shooting at drones all the time. Some yokel is flying his drone around the neighborhood and people start shooting at it.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Which, by the way, I would do too. Yeah, that's what you want to do. It's good like skeet shooting. Get a shotgun, put a bird shot in it. Because it'll have a spray, it'll give you maybe a three foot area. Yeah, like a garbage can size. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Well, eventually it gets out there, way out there, and you should be able to take out a drone at distance. Anyway, I'm just appalled, appalled at Ellison. I'm not. It's just, he might as well just be, you know, sitting there and talking to himself with a drool cup. Well, I caught it, so there it is. There it is. There's the drone. Yeah, there's the drone. So let's play these analysis clips of the, because they, you did bring up the part where they're talking about Trump and,
Starting point is 00:41:28 and his connection to Epstein and specifically, which they also, which the media cannot stop talking about. No, it's because they think they got something on them. They think something's happening, but I want to play, this is a little, this is kind of, was counter-programming for PBS, this ran yesterday. They talked to a New York Times guy about the connection between Trump and Epstein. And it brings up a point of information that I think is interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:01 President Trump said today he wants all Jeffrey Epstein grand jury testimony made public as he continues to spar with parts of his political base over his handling of the matter. Before we continue, isn't the whole point of a grand jury that that's never made public or am I mistaken on that? It can be made public. But you're right. No, when you go into a grand jury. It's a secret proceeding. Yes It's like it's a secret court. See it's like a star chamber and if I'm also
Starting point is 00:42:32 not mistaken The grand jury is where you go to indict the ham sandwich Yeah, because a grand jury you can basically get any kind of testimony out there that you want, and then the grand jury will go, yeah, we should probably pick that guy up off the street. Yeah, that's basically what a grand jury does. I'm just making sure I understand the grand jury because it sounds so official. Grand jury! You get a badge, by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You get a badge? You get a grand jury badge and you can use By the way. You get a badge? You get a grand jury badge and you can use it, you can flash it at cops when it comes to getting pulled over for something. Really? You have the grand jury badge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Grand jury badge in their wallet. Is that like a PBA card? A PBA card, Professional Bowlers Association? No, you don't have to be a bowler. Police Benevolence Association. No, I think it's more like those little, a courtesy badges, which I have a couple. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like a PBA card. It's the same thing. Yeah. The courtesy badge you can carry in your wallet.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Could I get a little courtesy from you, Ossifer? And the way it works, because I've only used it once. And I was in the, I was in Santa Barbara area or someplace and I had my highlights on and I didn't join them off. And a cop goes by and he swings around and pulls me over. And so I said, driver, license, I, so I opened my wallet in clear view of his flashlight, it was at night obviously, and he sees the courtesy badges. They were little bitty things,
Starting point is 00:44:07 they're only about an inch or so. Like a lapel badge basically. Yeah, basically, but you know, carry them around. And he says, what's that? In your mouth. And I said, what's that in your mouth? And he said, I did some work for, and I just discussed where the badge came from. And he recognized, that's a, I was, I did some work for, and I just discussed the,
Starting point is 00:44:25 where the badge came from. And he said, and he's, and he recognized, he's just, yeah, well, hey, you had your highlights on, don't do it again. And he gets my thing back. So I had a PBA card, which is, it was like a business card and with an embossed little shield on it. And I got pulled over in Montclair, New Jersey. And so back there, they're very good with this kind of scam. Yes, an officer Bob, officer Bob, badge number three,
Starting point is 00:44:55 Montclair police. He sees the car and says, oh, oh, well, I can give you some courtesy. Adam, that's your name? Adam. Oh, yeah, you're on MTV, right? Hey, you want to come to the mor Adam, that's your name? Adam. Oh, yeah, you're on MTV, right? Hey, You want to come to the morgue one day? It's really cool
Starting point is 00:45:08 Wow, that's a lot better than we get out in the west coast Hey, man, you want to come to the morgue? You can see the morgue man. It's really cool. We can go at 11 pm Like hey officer bob, that's great. Thanks. I don't think I want to go to the morgue Wow That's a fabulous invite. All right, here we go. At the same time, Mr. Trump acknowledged that even releasing all that testimony might not be enough for the troublemakers and radical left lunatics.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Earlier, Mr. Trump said that supporters pressing him to release more Epstein material are weaklings who have fallen for a democratic hoax. With some conservative critics saying now that the president is part of a cover-up, attention is turning to the relationship between the two men. New York Times White House correspondent Luke Broadwater has written about what's known about the Trump-Epstein relationship.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Luke, how far back do these two men go? Well, we know they've known each other since at least the late 1980s or 1990 when Jeffrey Epstein purchased a property in Palm Beach. Shortly thereafter, the two men became friendly. They ran in the same circles. They were both from New York. They were both rich.
Starting point is 00:46:22 They both had a love for nightlife and for attending flashy parties and being surrounded by women. And so for about 15 years, as best we can tell, they were pretty tight. Trump flew on Epstein's project, we went to Palm Beach in New York at least seven times. And it isn't until 2004 when they really have a falling out, when they become rivals over a real estate property in Florida, they both wanted the same oceanfront mansion. And Donald Trump and Epstein sort of become rivals
Starting point is 00:47:00 or even enemies after that. And after that break, after the break over that real estate, did they ever get back together or was that it? Not as best we can tell. There's no public record of them interacting after about 2004. It was my understanding that Epstein was cozying up to the teenage girls at Mar-a-Lago and he kicked them out. What happened to that part of the story?
Starting point is 00:47:28 That part of the story would seem to be something of a Trump creation. Oh, it's not true? Well, I don't know whether it's true or not, but the New York Times guy doesn't see it that way. But he says the breakup took place in 2004 with this dispute over some property that both of them wanted. But let's play the rest of these and I have my point of information. 2004 with this dispute over some property that both of them wanted. But let's play the rest of these and I have my point of information. And Trump himself after Epstein died in jail said he hadn't talked to him in 15 years.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And we haven't found any evidence that contradicts that. What was his reaction or public reaction when Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking in 2019? Well, he tried to distance himself from any connection to Epstein and he called him a creep. There have been times when he called for a full investigation.
Starting point is 00:48:16 There have been times when he tried to suggest maybe Democrats were involved in wrongdoing and connection to Epstein. And there have been other times when he sort of hedged and said he didn't want everything out and that he believes maybe innocent people could be unfairly maligned.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And he even expressed sympathy for Miss Maxwell, who was Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend, who's now serving a prison sentence for helping him with his sex trafficking ring. And she was convicted of that and is doing a 20-year prison sentence currently. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:58 So, okay, let's go to the last clip and I'll bring it up. You say he was sort of ambivalent about releasing this stuff during the campaign, but it was certainly a big part of the MAGA base that was supporting him, and now he's trying to get them to move on. Do you think they will? It doesn't seem like it. You know, he famously bragged he could shoot someone
Starting point is 00:49:21 on Fifth Avenue and wouldn't lose any supporters. This seems to be the one issue, though, where he's really put himself in a political fix. His base has been adamant that all these files be released. If you look at sort of right-wing message boards or social media posts, really ardent supporters of Donald Trump are turning on him over this issue. They're saying he's becoming, you know, like the swamp, he's part of a cover-up. And so him saying move on does not appear to be working. Maybe it's working with some of the Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Maybe it's working with, you know, a few talk show hosts. But by and large, the base seems to be demanding that every piece of information about Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes come out. As you know, there's widespread belief that there were, you know, rich and famous men who abused women along with Jeffrey Epstein. And people want to see those men brought to justice.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And to date, it's really only been Jeffrey Epstein and people want to see those men brought to justice. And to date it's really only been a Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell who have faced any legal repercussions. Okay. Your analysis, John C. Dvorak. Well, it's not an analysis. It's a point of information, which is that the recent scandal supposedly that was run out of the Wall Street Journal was a note that was given to Epstein for his birthday. It was put in a binder. And I guess it was bound as though it couldn't have been
Starting point is 00:50:50 unbounded and rebound by the CIA, let's say. That note, supposedly some lewd note that he made a lot of sexual points or something. Well, I mean, the exact text was, let every day be a secret, a beautiful secret. Yeah, some bull crap. That note is dated 2006. How does that jive with in-depth reporting
Starting point is 00:51:14 by an operation that doesn't like Trump? And they say that there's no connection between Trump and Epstein after 2004. How does the 2006 document fit into this scheme of things? Point of information. I thought it was 2012 when that note went. My understanding was 2006, but it's still after 2004. 2004 is the cutoff point according to all the research. We've seen no evidence he goes on about it that
Starting point is 00:51:39 Trump and Epstein had anything to do with each other after 2004. How does 2006 or 2012, whatever the year, how does that fit into the scheme of things it doesn't? It's a fake. But even then, let's just say he did it. He drew a naked lady and he put in there, happy birthday. No, the only thing was dumb. I think I have the text here.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I think this is Brolf. This is CNN breaking news. Breaking news! I think I have the text here. I think this is a brulph. This is CNN breaking news. Breaking news. We begin with the breaking news. President Trump is taking a big step forward in revealing details, details of the self trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein. He's now authorizing the attorney general of the United States, Pam Bondi, to produce,
Starting point is 00:52:22 and I'm quoting now, any and all pertinent grand jury testimony, close quote. The Justice Department says it will go to court today to seek that public release. Even the President's loyal followers have demanded the administration make good on its promise to share more information. And new this morning, the President and his allies are lashing out at the Wall Street Journal. It is important that Epstein's friends and family associates sent Bobby letters for a birthday album in 2003. Body letters.
Starting point is 00:52:51 According to the Journal, one of those recent letters... 2003. That's what they're saying now. This is CNN though. It's from Donald Trump. They keep changing. They keep moving the target on us. Well, it was for his 50th birthday.
Starting point is 00:53:03 That would mean 2012. I mean, that's the simple math. I looked that up because people were saying, it's not Donald Trump. It was Donald Barr, Donald Barr, Bill Barr's dad who hired him. It was Donald,
Starting point is 00:53:17 Donald, Donald Barr. Donald Barr died in 2004, people. So no, it didn't happen then either. And it is so, so graphic. The article in the Wall Street Journal describes the... I thought Babylon Bee did the best. They had a headline, Donald Trump typed 8008 on a calculator, turned it upside down and showed it to Epstein. ...this way and I'm quoting now. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman which
Starting point is 00:53:48 appears to be hand drawn with a heavy marker. Heavy marker! Heavy marker! Heavy marker! That's it? No, it has to be that way because you have to envision him holding the thing like a fist with a crayon because he's a big dope. Now he uses a sharpie for all of his signatures. I think that's the reference, but OK.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It's the woman's breast. Yeah. And the future president's signature is twigly Donald below her waist mimicking pubic hair. The letter concludes Happy Birthday. Oh no, pubic hair. And may every day be another wonderful secret, close quote. I mean, what in the world is this?
Starting point is 00:54:31 If this is just, it's like, okay, first of all, I don't know why the, I mean, he's filed a $10 billion lawsuit. Why does he even care if not to make it the distraction of the week? I don't under see any other reason to file a $10 billion lawsuit over this. How is that even, let's say it's not his, how is that
Starting point is 00:54:56 defamatory? Pubic hair! What in the world is going on? And then of course, we've got CNN dragging out every story we can. Jeffrey Epstein's ex-girlfriend speaking out tonight, Stacey Williams, a former Sports Illustrated model who dated Epstein in the early 90s, has spent time with both Epstein and Donald Trump together in one disturbing alleged incident, which Williams went public with last year before the presidential election,
Starting point is 00:55:26 Williams says Trump groped her in front of Epstein at Trump Tower in 1993. Here's what she told our Sunlenser Fadi when she first broke her silence. The second he was in front of me, he pulled me into him and his hands were just on me and didn't come off. Then the hands started moving and they were on the side of my breast, on my hips, back down to my butt, back up, sort of then, you know, they were just on me the whole time. And I, sorry, I froze. Williams also claimed that Epstein and Trump looked at each other and smiled during the alleged incident, which Williams says she now believes was coordinated and quote, some
Starting point is 00:56:12 kind of weird twisted game. Trump denied Williams's allegations through his campaign at the time, which said in part quote, it's obvious this fake story was contrived by Kamala Harris's campaign. Yep. So of course, actually Naomi Wolf wrote a pretty decent essay on her sub stack, which goes back to your boy, cause she also had Brockman was her publicist and the millionaire and then later billionaire dinners and how all of these scientists, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:44 and this goes a bit about what Weinstein said, is that Epstein had his hands in all kinds of technology and scientific stuff and whether he was trying to steer it towards, I don't know, gene therapies. It doesn't really matter, but in the grand jury testimony, there is going, a lot of people are going to be implicated because they either went down to a conference at the island and maybe, you know, I can certainly see you got a bunch of nerds down there. Hey, hey guys, look at these girls. You don't know what's going on. I should mention that there used to be, I wish I could remember the name of the company, but there was a small, it was something of a startup and it was a chip company.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And they used to, during the Comdex era, they used to do these big parties. I never found out about this, never went to one of these parties cause I think they would have been a hoot. But, uh, You didn't get invited is what you're saying. Well, that's probably what the situation, well I wasn't invited because they don't, I'm sure I wasn't, invited is what you're saying. Well, that's probably what the situation. I wasn't invited because they don't, I'm sure I wasn't,
Starting point is 00:57:51 wouldn't be invited because I was a writer and they really, this was a sales kind of a thing. They were trying to sell their product to people. And, but I knew a guy that went to it all the time and he says it all, this guy did the CEO was well connected with the underground and he just loaded, it was all whores. It was a party of hookers. And so they bring all these guys in and all these hookers would be taken to the different rooms around whatever hotel they were in.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And that's how they did their business. Their whole business was basically getting these guys to sign up on using these guys' chips with hookers. It's the oldest trick in the book. Yeah, it's obvious. If you can pull it off, and they pulled it off. Their stock went public and they got bought by somebody else. And next thing you know, I can't even remember the name of the company, but I do remember
Starting point is 00:58:44 the story. And because this guy, my friend who went to these parties, he said it was hilarious to watch these guys get, they all thought these, half of these guys that were the buyers didn't know they were even hookers. They thought these girls were interested in them. Oh, and then five seconds later. Hey, look at this picture. What's that in your mouth? And then five seconds later.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Hey, look at this picture. What's that in your mouth? So here's the thing that is just not in the discussion. Actually, let me play one more clip. I mean, this morning, Martha Raddatz, ABC This Week. Oh my God, we gotta keep talking about it. We can't stop.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I'm joined now by GLP Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee, who has called for more transparency in the Epstein case. Good morning, Congressman. You've co-sponsored the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency Act, which would force the House to vote on whether or not to release all government files on Epstein. What exactly do you think the government is withholding here? By the way, can the House do that? Can they supersede the Department of Justice and say release everything and no matter what?
Starting point is 00:59:57 I don't know that they can. But I have no idea. It doesn't sound right. Doesn't sound right to me either. but anyway, they're all virtue signaling. Well, that's the million dollar question, ma'am. Yeah, ma'am. What? Yeah, no, what? Here's your million dollar question. I'm going to answer it for you. The question is, what's that in your mouth, ma'am?
Starting point is 01:00:20 That's the question. That's the million dollar question, ma'am. I applaud the president and Attorney General Bondi for wanting to release the grand jury files. I believe that will pretty much cover everything. But I would give everybody a caveat, or that's a big word, but a warning that just because somebody flew on a plane doesn't mean they're a dad gum pedophile. I have a lot of wealthy friends. This guy's great. I have not heard of him. He's a dad gum pedophile. I'll tell you right now, he's not a dad gum pedophile.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Because I've got a lot of rich friends and they fly on each other's jets all the time. Because somebody flew on a plane doesn't mean they're a dad gum pedophile. You know, I have a lot of wealthy friends. I aspire to be wealthy, but I've taken a vow of poverty because my daughter rides horses. This is my favorite. What? I aspire to be wealthy, but I can't.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Yeah, we bought a hoard of horses, a whole bunch of fleet of them. And I don't tell them I'm broke. So I can't be rich because my daughter, she loves riding them horses. And quarter horses, they cost like a million bucks a piece. So, but I have a lot of wealthy friends and they fly on people's planes and their plane will be down and they'll say, hey, we're going somewhere and we got an extra seat.
Starting point is 01:01:35 You want to go? And they don't even know the person on the plane. So you know that's- Hey, if I had my own plane, I wouldn't be like, who are you? No. If I was wealthy and have my own dad gone playing, I wouldn't be like, who are you? No. If I was wealthy and have my own dad gum plane, I wouldn't have any one I didn't own my plane. And we got an extra seat. Do you want to go? And they don't even know the person on the
Starting point is 01:01:52 plane. So, you know, that's, that's one of the things I worry about too, because, you know, President Trump. Sounds like somebody took a plane ride. That he flew on his dad gum plane. Dad gum, dad gum plane ride. That he flew on his dad gum plane. Dad gum. Dad gum plane again. I worry about some innocent people. I worry about there's over a thousand people that this dirt bag apparently offended. And currently I believe the devil's dealing with him.
Starting point is 01:02:16 But I worry about some of those innocent names being out on that too as well. That guy's doing a filibuster. How do you spell dad gum? Is it D-A-G-G-U-M? No, it's dad gum. It's D-A-D-G-U-M. Dad gum. That's a possible show title, I think. Dad gum.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I wrote it down as a show title. Dad gum. Do you want to hear more from this guy? Because I find him... Oh, I love this guy's voice. ...entertaining all of a sudden. You think unsealing the grand jury records is enough for you now? Well, ma'am, I think it's a sudden. You think unsealing the grand jury records is enough for you now?
Starting point is 01:02:45 Well, ma'am, I think it's a start. I don't think we're ever going to get to the bottom of anything, all of it, ma'am. I mean, look at the Kennedy assassination. Do you actually believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy from the front and the back and this magic bullet appears an hour later in a hospital gurney and in an emergency room. This town doesn't give up its secrets very easy. And I'd warn people too, now we're getting a hold of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:15 What happened the last four years under the Biden administration? Senator Dick Durbin blocked my Senator, Marsha Blackburn, who valiantly fought to get those records out and acted pretty much like there wasn't anything and the media backed him up on it. And now all of a sudden the media thinks they've got something and it's leveled towards Trump. But my history with this issue goes back a long way. I spent 16 years in the Tennessee General Assembly and I passed and attempted to pass some of the toughest laws in the country, some of the first ICAC fund, Antinette Crimes Against
Starting point is 01:03:48 Children. I promoted the death penalty, chemical castration of child molesters, laws and bills were ruled unconstitutional. I don't mess around. You know, I'm from Tennessee, so I live in Franklin with my horses. The CEO of In-N-Out Burger is moving to this guy's state. She's from the San Francisco Bay area originally. No, this is not going to work out. Native California, you know, I don't know if you can stay in Tennessee that long.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Well, is your, is your dag gum In-N-Out Burger, you make them from grass fedfed beef or do you finish them off with some grain or you just feed them snicker bars? I want to know. So you no longer believe... That was pretty good, actually. I'm surprised at myself. You actually have it.
Starting point is 01:04:34 You nailed it. Or are demanding that all the Epstein files be released. No, ma'am. I want them released, but my warning is this. Let's make sure that we're not releasing the names of some of these who were then children, now adults, that were abused by this dirtbag abstain. And let's make sure we don't release things that have innocence names on them. That's been my concern with the original, I thought they were dragging their feet in the beginning under the Biden administration.
Starting point is 01:05:10 They never did anything. And now all of a sudden it's become a political issue. It's not a political issue with me, ma'am. I've held the hands of people that have been molested and they carry a life sentence. I just wanna make sure- You've been very critical. I'm sorry, you have been very critical of Pam Bondi during this. And the president said he thinks she's handled it well.
Starting point is 01:05:30 So where is the disconnect there? And do you think she should resign? Well, no, my, I think she's doing a fine job. I think her communication with us early on was not as good. I mean, the binder, for instance, that she put out, I was very excited about that. I was excited. But then I found the contents of it. And I think she blundered in the beginning. I really do, as most Americans do.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Because those white notebooks that those young folks, those influencers walked out with. Them dad gum influencers walked out with. That was a hoax. That was it. That was it. Then when I started digging into it, it was stuff that I... I like my postings on Twitter, or X, but that's about the limit of my computer knowledge, but even I could find those things on the internet that were already out there. I think they blundered in the beginning, but I think they're gonna finish strong. All right, do you wanna hear the last clip from this guy?
Starting point is 01:06:30 I wasn't even planning on playing with all but- He's tormenting me with his- This guy's good. He's good, his voice is dag gum. President Trump has started claiming this is all a hoax that is being perpetrated by the Democrats. He says some of his own supporters who he labeled stupid and foolish Republicans, you
Starting point is 01:06:49 are obviously one of those people who wants this released. You're stupid. What's your reaction to how President Trump is handling this? Yes, ma'am, I'm not stupid. It's his strategy. Everybody questions President Trump's strategy. They said the big beautiful bill wasn't gonna get on the 4th of July Trump comes out and says I don't care when you put it out
Starting point is 01:07:08 I said, I don't care if you put it on July 40th get the bill out. I just want it out Again, we pass it on the 4th of July. He's dead gum again cryptocurrency bill As that Bitcoin stuff had the genius act part of that then everybody said it was dead It wasn't going anywhere. And there I am on a phone call. I'm in a meeting with our speaker and our whip, Tom Emert, and 10 or 12 fellow conservatives that had concerns about it.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And lo and behold, President Trump calls, answers all of our questions, and the bill passes and he signed it on Friday. So, you know, I think to underestimate Donald J. Trump is a mistake in this town and I think we're learning that. And you know, that's his strategy. Was I a little ticked off? He said that stuff. Sure I was, but I'm a big boy, man. I'm in the big ball. We're playing in the big leagues right now. And you know, I get criticized every day. I get death threats on a pretty regular basis. So my skin's about that thick right now. I think I can take a little criticism.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It sounds like you can. He's coming out with it. He's coming out with it. It's all good. It's all good. That's right. Wow. Who is that guy? Tim Burchett. Tim Burchett of Tennessee. That guy's a star. Yeah, I think, I love the dad gum things he's been saying.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Well, you know, dad gum is a one of these things like cripes. That's better, it's better. This should be- Well, it's because it's a cuss word. What's the dad gum vibe over there, John? Is it dad gum move? So it's a cuss word. It's like saying, dropping the F-bomb constant or the various forms of damn. So it's just one of these substitutes that come in. Friggin, you know? I do not like people who say, friggin. I know we know what you like. I like writing it
Starting point is 01:09:08 Friggin yeah, it's free when you're writing friggin FRI GG I an Apostrophe it has this just a nice Ring to it in print Okay, I believe me. I just like it. Why did the chance, I don't use it that much, but when I use it, I like using it. The only thing he didn't do was he didn't say y'all. I missed a y'all in there. He didn't say y'all once.
Starting point is 01:09:33 It should have been. So here's the thing that is kind of being overlooked in all this. Before this show started, I've been looking at these and I mentioned on the previous show due true the Rolodex files I've been around elites you know I was in this is when I was they burned a radio station down because of you yes when I was I think 17 on the we had the pirate radio station and one of the guys and there's a story about your first wife and the uh well I won't even get into that story. But anyway, go on continue. What story is that about the gabagoo? The gabagoo? Yeah, never mind
Starting point is 01:10:16 I'm stumped. Oh No, I can tell you that. Oh, yeah. No, that wasn't it wasn't a gabagoo Oh no, I can tell you that. Oh yeah. No, that wasn't, it wasn't a Gabagoo. It was one of the, one of the royal, members of the Dutch royal family. This is before I knew her. And, and they were doing a photo op
Starting point is 01:10:36 and this member, literal member of the royal family was rubbing up against her with a boner. But there was no Gabagoo. I don't recall that part of the story. Oh, I understood there'd be a Gabagoo. No, I don't think Gabagoo. Do you spell that? G-O-B-A-Goo. Gabagoo. I think it's also Italian. I think it's a Ramone song. Anyway, so and I've been so back to my story. So I was 17 and we had this guy who sponsored the pirate radio station.
Starting point is 01:11:09 He had two clothing stores and he said, yeah, you know, you're going to America. I want you to record all the ads because I'm crazy about advertising. I want to see how Americans do ads. So I go to his house. It's like a mansion in Amsterdam, in Amsterdam itself, you know, comprised of like a whole city block. And it was creepy, just creepy in general. I'm kind of like, oh, what am I? And he was going to give me money to record these ads. Maybe I was 16, to record these ads. Then all of a sudden, I see a Dutch minister of parliament riding a 10-speed bike in the house.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I'm like, what in the world is this? And he was like, hey, you should come to the party later tonight. Yeah, okay. I think I'll pass on the party. It was just weird. So when you get into this level of wealth and this level of fame and power, people do crazy things. The most normal people will get into, what is it, eyes wide shut? That stuff's for real. People who are bored, they can buy anything. Bored, that's the kicker.
Starting point is 01:12:19 They're bored, they can buy anything, they can do anything, so they get into these situations and all the kids are doing it and then you wind up in these odd situations. Yeah, you're in a satanic cult the next thing you know. Yes, but what is not being discussed in all of this, this is really a spiritual problem we have in America, is that there's 40,000 images of child pornography uploaded to the internet in America every single day. And it would be surprising if it wasn't every single minute. And, you know, when I look at the culture we have, the culture we've
Starting point is 01:12:59 created, going back to the thirts in Hollywood with Shirley Temple in war babies, Shirley Temple in a bra, highly sexualized, and it never stopped in Hollywood and everything that we have in our media. There are so many, and particularly advertising, so many trigger points have been examined and re-examined and young, smooth skin. It makes people want to buy products. And we have corrupted so many. How do people get into the state? How do they get into... If you just Google, child pornography network arrested.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Oh, there's a good idea. Google that everybody out there. Every month, there's hundreds, hundreds of people being arrested for this stuff. It is right throughout our culture. And this is, I would like to see that conversation be discussed for once. But you're not just... By who? By Martha Raddatz, for all I care. Or this dagg gum guy, you know, I see all this stuff. Yeah, tell us more because that is the real problem. Yeah, sure, scientists, wealthy people. Now, at least we don't have a state, we don't have a building. The No Agenda Show doesn't
Starting point is 01:14:17 have a building that will burn down. So we're good there. Your house maybe. But my point is we need to look at our own culture and what, how do we get to this point outside of the rich people? It's really sick. We are very, very sick. And I heard just the other day that a lot of this child trafficking is happening through some of the beef networks. I'll just keep it very vague, because I don't have any proof of it. So allegedly coming up through from South America,
Starting point is 01:14:53 through the big beef processors, there's only three, take your pick. There's four. In America, there's only three. And it's an ongoing train of just kids and underage boys and girls being trafficked throughout our country. But how did we get so sick? It's sick. How do you get to the 300,000 missing kids from Biden administration? How do we get, you know, it's just the whole thing. It's an underground. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:23 How do we get, you know, it's just the whole thing. It's an underground. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. This, this is the, I'd rather have people be discussing that for hours. Like what is going on? What is happening? How does this happen? Why is this everywhere in the world?
Starting point is 01:15:35 What are we missing? That's yeah. It's a different podcast. It's a different podcast, but just need to bring it up. I think you should do this other podcast. I think I will actually. Okay. I think I will. It'll be cool. I think you should do this other podcast. I think I will actually. I think I will. I think you should.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Yeah, I think I should. Because that conversation, everyone's like, oh, Epstein, Epstein, but how about all the other victims that are never discussed? All right, another podcast. I'll start another podcast. Yeah, you're not podcasting enough. I need more podcasts in my life. You, you're not podcasting enough. More podcasts in my life. Well, thank you. That's a good idea. I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I'm going to think about it. I think you should. I'll call it. You've been, it's not, I'm not saying this as a, flippant. You're not being flippant. I'm not being flippant. I think you should because you've been doing this before we even started this podcast. You've been on this kick I'll call it a kick. Yeah about this with the with all this stuff in Holland And you just you bitch and moan about it constantly, but you don't do the podcast You don't you haven't done a podcast about I think I should I'm gonna and it's not just this is lots of now
Starting point is 01:16:43 It could be a true crime podcast. Oh goodness. No, no. There's some money there. There's another thing. When did we become obsessed with true crime? That is the number one podcast category. Like we're not obsessed with, with stopping it. No, we're obsessed with listening about it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I want to hear how they kill them. Screw podcasting on that. It's also, if you think about it, if you watch over the air, you don't do so much as I do, over the air TV, there's at least three entire networks that do nothing but 24-7 reruns of Dateline
Starting point is 01:17:20 and all the other, and True Crime, this and True Crime, there's a network called true crime. Yeah, I know. And they just play these documentaries and they're all compelling. There's always some nutball teacher in some town in Idaho and this person got messed up and they killed a sister-in-law
Starting point is 01:17:40 because of this and that. Wow, geez. Yeah, well, so somehow our minds have really just been corrupted. And I was thinking about this in regards to the chat bot, which now it has a name actually. I didn't realize this. Chat bot? The hair? No, no.
Starting point is 01:17:59 What are you talking about? That one chat, the physical chat, the one that's the girl. The Annie? The anime girl? about that one chat, the physical chat, the one that's the girl that's Annie, Annie, Annie, no, no, no, in general, it's called chat GPT induced psychosis. Oh, you're talking about the condition. Yes. And there's a lot of, I mean, I had no idea so much had been written about it. Like people are being involuntary involuntarily committed
Starting point is 01:18:29 it. Like people are being involuntarily committed and jailed after spiraling into chat GPT induced psychosis. And what's interesting about it is it always winds up in the same kind of, where people go nuts is them. They believe that the chat GPT is a sentient being and they're communicating with the spiritual world Every single one of these stories except for the ones who are having you know sexual fantasies with them Well, this is how different is this from the people that are notorious for thinking the TV is talking to them Oh, it's a secret. No, it's not it It's not. But this is a whole different deal. I mean, this is, but there's a billion people using these chatbots. And I'm okay with, although there's no evidence that the actual productivity is there, I'm seeing people crying about their vibe coding going wrong and, oh, my chat GPT deleted my
Starting point is 01:19:21 production database. Okay. Oh, my chat GPT deleted my production database. Oh, okay. And it's fine if you wanna create AI voices and funny memes and that's all great. But the psychosis part of people talking to their chat bots and being sucked in, and I realized that we have been so preconditioned for this. Going back to your favorite, Colossus. Colossus, wasn't that the movie? The Colossus?
Starting point is 01:19:48 The Forbin Project? The Forbin Project, yes. 1970. 2001, Space Odyssey. Yeah, one of my faves. Space Odyssey. This is all computers talking to people. Tron, War Games, of course.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Terminator. Close the door. What was it? Hal. What was the name of the computer? Hal, Hal. Terminator. Close the door. What was it? Hal. What's the name of the computer? Hal. Open the door. No, I'm sorry Dave. Yeah, that's space. But I'm not opening the door. I'm not gonna happen. So war games. Shall we play a game of thermonuclear war? Terminator. Short circuit was short circuit. Remember Johnny Five is Alive, the cute little robot. I remember that movie. Her, of course, 2013.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Yeah, I even saw that one. Mission Impossible. But then my favorite, as I realized, oh man, Knight Rider. Everybody wanted to talk to their car. I'm sorry, David, I can't get there right now. I haven't started my engine yet. Max Headroom, Star Trek, X-Files, Black Mirror. Max Headroom, a classic. Mr. Robot. I mean, we have been so pre-conditioned for this that it's no wonder.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Yeah, not to mention Star Trek. They had the talking computer back in 1960s. Yes, computer. So it doesn't surprise me. Anyway, I would say if you're having conversations... Working. Working. It doesn't surprise me. Anyway, I would say if you're having conversations with your chat GPT or any chat bot, you have been biohacked and you need to check yourself. Working, working. You need to check yourself. You watch, this will be headline news within six months. And then, and of course,
Starting point is 01:21:27 well, we need to regulate this. No, no, take the phones away from your kid, put them in a drawer. I'm all in with you on this, John. Put it in a drawer. You're all in, but you have not done it. Because I'm not a retard. I don't, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Boy, you're calling me a retard? Yeah, kind of. No, I mean, it's like I can balance myself. But you know, it's like, I'm a, I'm a boomer. I'm an adult boomer. So I, I'm not falling for this. You got a nasty note. I saw. I did. Oh, one of our producers said that you've sold out. You should still represent yourself as a millennial.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Now they've got nobody on the show to represent the millennials. No, I'm not a millennial. I'll be Gen X. I'm sorry. Nobody to represent the Gen X. You're right. Nobody to represent the Gen X. Now you've sold out. You're just another boomer like John. You should go back. Go back. You're on the cusp. Go back the Gen X, not you've sold out. You're just another boomer like John. You should go back. Go back, you're on the cusp. Go back to Gen X. Go back.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I didn't see anybody stepping up and defending me. Uh-uh. No. Oh, Gen Xers, they can't, they haven't got enough backbone to do anything, those Gen Xers. Gen Xers are actually the cool ones. Everything after Gen X is very cool.
Starting point is 01:22:43 No, the millennials are cooler. Nah. I like the Z's, the Zoomers. And that was your Boomer update. I like the Zoomers. I have this one. You're over the hill, will be done sooner if you shut your mouth. Okay Boomer. I'm kind of embracing it now.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Keep going, yeah it's better. Okay, boomer. I'm kind of embracing it now. Just like just go with it. Yeah, it's better. Literally, I posted that on X. If you're having conversations with your chat GPT or any chat bot, you've been biohacked. The number one comment, okay, boomer. Yeah, that's kind of trite at this point. It's cliched.
Starting point is 01:23:21 You know the guy that I played on the last show where the chat GPT all of a sudden was channeling stuff to him from a spiritual another world. There were two other clips that went with that. I didn't even play him because once he was like, the chat bot said, well, you need to eat some mushrooms and go to Sedona, California. I figured even you wouldn't take it seriously after that. So I got an email from somebody saying, you didn't play the whole thing. The guy went to Sedona and just like the guy that was promised from his chat bot, a red hawk appeared. I said, the guy was on shrooms. You could have said an angel will appear. He would have believed it.
Starting point is 01:24:11 That's true. But then this is one of our producers said, I'm not saying this is real, but you can't deny something is going on here. There is some kind of connection. Some kind of connection. You're getting to the, I think you come close to a voice, a new voice. Oh, I don't know if I can do it now. What was the voice?
Starting point is 01:24:32 It's a, I don't know how to describe it, but it's an anxious kind of freaky guy. It's a type of freaky guy that's not like the stoner. It's a freaky guy who's enthusiastic and nuts. You don't understand. This is, there's something going on here. They're getting downloads from another dimension. That's close. That was better before I said anything. Yeah, you shouldn't have said anything. Well, it'll come back to you. You have these things. You channel them. Yeah, but I think that people are looking for some kind of...
Starting point is 01:25:06 Actually, in the legendary words of Lonnie Frisbee, there's a whole generation out there just looking for God, man. That's what people are doing. They want some spiritual connection. Oh, well... The Chet GPT will provide it. That's the scary part. I don't know. Is it scary or is it maybe a good thing? Well, the chat GPT will provide it. That's the scary part. I don't know. Is it scary or is it maybe a good thing?
Starting point is 01:25:27 Well, once you get them hooked on the chat GPT, then you can go into the system and then control the masses. And they'll all vote Democrat. Well, that's what you got to do. You got to get them to vote Republican. Nah. Yeah, this all vote Democrat thing is a real issue. Anyway, that's what the schools have managed to pull off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:55 So then we had not one, not two, but three bills pass during crypto week. Crypto week. I have a, and of course you heard about this. Yes, before you go on with crypto week week. I just want to read. I have it right here. Yeah, some email that came in and you should be aware of I don't know. I don't know anything about it. But it's an email from one of these things
Starting point is 01:26:27 I end up blocking, trade, something or other, investment stuff. And he guys says, this is important, this is about Washington's first ever crypto week is here. And it goes on and on and on. Then it says, Larry Benedict's Bitcoin skimming strategy, this is something you should know about, Larry Benedict's Bitcoin skimming strategy, this is something you should know about, can make you 6X, 9X, and even,
Starting point is 01:26:50 I don't know why they skipped to 22X, more money from the same Bitcoin moves. So you can make 6X, so if you're doubling your money, you can, you can be 12X, it'd be 12X. Or 22, which would be 40, a 40-banger. or 22 which would be 40 a 40-banger. A 40-banger. So you know I'm just you want me to pass I'll have this forward I'll forward this to you. John it's okay you can ridicule me all you want.
Starting point is 01:27:16 I didn't ridicule I'm not ridiculing you I'm ridiculing Benedict. I don't care about Benedict. So crypto week was anything but about crypto. It was all about the stablecoin. This by the way is our Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besant. And here we go. Today marks a seminal moment for digital assets and global dollar dominance with President Trump signing the Genius Act into law. This bill provides the fast growing stable coin market with the regulatory clarity it
Starting point is 01:27:50 needs to grow into a trillion dollar industry. Stable coins represent a revolution in digital finance. The dollar now has an internet native payment rail that is fast, frictionless, and free of metalmen. This groundbreaking technology will buttress the dollar status as a global reserve currency, expand access to the dollar economy for billions across the globe, and lead to a surge in demand for U.S. treasuries, which back stablecoins. The Genius Act is a win-win-win for everyone involved. Stablecoin users, stablecoin issuers, and the U.S. Treasury Department. I want to thank President Trump for his visionary leadership in shepherding this bill into law and Congress
Starting point is 01:28:38 for rapidly advancing this critical legislation. By expanding financial freedom and reinforcing dollar dominance. Stable coins will play a critical role in making America great again. So a couple things about this I'd like our people to know because a lot of misinformation. And I have a question. Go ahead. Can Russia use these things? Yes. In fact, that is the intent. The intent is the dollar dominance that the stablecoin is used everywhere, preferably outside of America, but of course, it will be used inside America.
Starting point is 01:29:13 So Russia can use these things. So after being kicked off of Swift, they can still do the same deals, only they have to use stablecoin. Even better. The deals will be the same. Yes, even better. It will actually be cheaper for the Russians because stable coin system is a,
Starting point is 01:29:28 I would call it a work around that is superior to Swift if it works. Oh, it works. It's already in place. There's 400 million people using stable coin. It works. So this is to get the Russians back into the international global market. Everybody, everybody. now remember who runs Russians
Starting point is 01:29:46 Who runs Swift who runs with? Europe the EU runs with we don't run Swift the EU. This is a F you EU if you you if you you so Russia anybody can use the stable coin and There is no KYC. This is a very important part of it. No Kentucky what? No, know your customer. So I can send you a stable coin
Starting point is 01:30:14 or you can buy something for me and I don't have to know where that stable coin came from. This is a complete end around all of that stuff. Yeah, but don't you want to know your customer if you're a salesperson? Details my friend details. If you have ten million dollars you can you too can become a stable coin issuer. You have to report every month you got to say okay we've got enough treasuries it's only for short-term treasuries. So nothing over I think
Starting point is 01:30:47 Was it was this 70 days or something have it in one of these 90 90 maybe yeah So that's the genius act then they passed the securities clarity act which says hey these aren't commodities except for Bitcoin. And then the most important one, I don't think got signed and that's the Anti-CBDC Surveillance Act, which is a way of saying, well, we don't want the Federal Reserve involved in our gambit. So they can't all of a sudden produce a central bank digital currency, which would then be an obvious surveillance coin.
Starting point is 01:31:26 That's what you'd call it. I'm sorry? That's what you'd call it. Yes, surveillance coins, the spy coin. But from what I understand, that is now going to be put into a different bill that the Senate is working on. So people are a little wary about that.
Starting point is 01:31:49 But this is exactly what we discussed for months here. This is a complete change of how this is your new, we're moving from the petrodollar into the stable coin dollar. And I think it's a very interesting move. We'll see what happens. I have no idea. Um, if it's, if it's good or bad, I'm not on that level. Smelling another podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Yeah. I mean, we'll have to cut this podcast by one a week because I got all these other podcasts I got to do. You're laughing, but it may not be that funny. No, you're like the way I see it. Yeah. You could do these other podcasts, but it's like you're Keith Richards
Starting point is 01:32:32 or you're Mick Jagger doing solo albums. It doesn't make any difference. You gotta come back to the No Agenda Show, because that's where the real action is. Mick Jagger had a pretty successful solo career. And, and. Yeah, but he doesn't had a pretty successful solo career. And, and. Yeah, but, yeah, but why, he doesn't go out on a solo career.
Starting point is 01:32:48 He doesn't pack it to 100,000 people at a time to do his solo act. But I get that big advance on the label deal. And I get to do songs with David Bowie. So, dancing in the streets. So, I mean, what about my art. Is David Bowie still alive? No, he's dead. But what about my artistic freedom, John?
Starting point is 01:33:08 I mean, this is not all about money. I mean, I know you think differently, but for me, I just may have to be able to talk about different things. Yeah, that's why you go out and do your little other podcasts, your little 2.0 podcast, your pedophile podcast. What are you going to call the pedophile podcast anyway? I'm not going to do a pedophile podcast. You are setting me up for failure now by just saying that's what it is. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to talk about our sick culture podcast.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Child crime. There's the money. Guess what? I'm not going to ask you our sick culture. True crime. There's the money. Guess what? I'm not going to ask you for any help or any advice. You shouldn't. I wouldn't either. Speaking of people who are hanging on way too long to their careers and will say anything to not have to go out on the road. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Deadly flash floods in Texas, ravaging storms in the Northeast, sweltering heat waves, and all of this, the past month, the past month rather, has brought a disastrous onslaught of extreme weather impacting every aspect of our lives, even music. On Wednesday, the Steve Miller band, an iconic rock star and band, who has been performing since the 60s
Starting point is 01:34:26 Cancelled his bands long-awaited 31 concert North American tour in an Instagram post Miller shared that Quoting now the combination of extreme heat unpredictable flooding tornadoes hurricanes and massive forest fires make these risks for you our audience the band the crew unacceptable you can blame it on the weather the tour is canceled okay first of all name two songs by Steve Miller band can you name two yeah for mercury 49 obscure good one well I used to hear him play it all the time. He used to play free every Sunday at the park across from the police department in Berkeley with him when he had bus gags as his lead guitarist. And so I saw him a million times.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Macho City, Fly Like an Eagle. Yeah, Fly Like an Eagle. He's got a bunch of stuff. He's also unknown to most people. Abracadabra. Yeah. Hold on. I heard enough of Steve Miller band.
Starting point is 01:35:37 This is the second part here. This is the Steve Miller blues band originally. And a lot of people don't realize he actually has his own camp at the Bohemian Grove. It doesn't surprise me that he's all into climate change. He's blaming it on climate change. He never said climate change, he said weather, but they all said climate change. Well, hold on. There's a second part to the story. CNN's chief climate correspondent, Bill Weir, hold on, hold on. This is the second part to the story.
Starting point is 01:36:05 CNN's chief climate correspondent, Bill Weir is joining us right now. I want to be here's my new podcast. It's the chief climate correspondent podcast, everybody. Bill, that is saying a lot that weather is forcing the Steve Miller band to stop and the tour before it even gets underway. And you know what? He has taken a beating online from skeptics who say, actually it was ticket sales that made this decision
Starting point is 01:36:31 and don't blame the weather on that. But this is a very real concern, especially in the outdoor festival industry. It's dangerous. The big festival in Tennessee, for the second time in the last four years was canceled because of flooding there. They haven't announced dates for next year.
Starting point is 01:36:46 That's an ominous sign. A bunch of smaller festivals have canceled this summer. And the insurance rates like you may not believe Steve Miller or may not believe in climate change, but insurance companies do. And they increased prices for promoters becoming prohibited. This is a real thing. I heard from a lot of my buddies that the insurance for this kind of climate calamity is making it unaffordable to go out on the road.
Starting point is 01:37:12 By the way, the Joker, some people call me the space cowboy. Some call me the gangster in love. I'm on a jet airliner. Come on, man. You gave me obscure references Well, that's because that's mercury 49 song when you watched him live for years and years at the free concert He gave every Sunday. Yeah, that was always his key song He comes out with an album and they make it like psyche like is a psychedelic band when he never was
Starting point is 01:37:42 They bring out the first album, that song's not on there. Well, it's an outrage. That was always his kicker. That was the song he finished with. That was his favorite tune. It was blues. It was a blues band and all of a sudden became a psychedelic band. I find that that was a ridiculous sellout to the current ad. I'm going to do a music podcast. That's what I'm going to do. You probably should. So anyway, he has his own camp at the Bohemian Grove and it's got the biggest stage, one of the biggest stages in the whole Grove.
Starting point is 01:38:13 And he does concerts for all the Bohemian guys. Really? Yeah. I've never been to one, but it's supposed to be pretty spectacular. Yes, you have been to one. You've been to Bohemian Grove. Yeah, but I didn't go to a Steve Miller concert. This place is huge. It's like a, it's an enclave that's a massive,
Starting point is 01:38:30 you know, they have stages all over the place. It's all just entertainment all the time and drinking. It's a bunch of drunks. You know, you, you are really only a few meetings away from being in all of these stories. I mean, somehow you somehow you didn't go to the billionaire dinner. Yeah, I know what I'm doing. I'm staying. I'm in good shape. I'm a lowly podcaster. Nobody's throwing bricks through the window. Nobody shoots at me. So speaking of Bohemian Grove, this is a new story. Bohemian Grove workers accused politicians and billionaires of abuse, bad behavior in wage theft lawsuit. That's possible.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Yeah, apparently, who was it? It was some billionaire. Oh, Coke, one of the Coke brothers, Bill Coke. He told one of the, I guess they have housekeeping there at Bohemian Grove. What happened to walking around? Depends on the camp. Yeah. You have to hand wash my underwear.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And they're very upset about that. That story sounds bogus. You would know. You've been to the Bohemian Grove, not me. I don't know anything about it. Then I guess we should talk about the big scandal. This is the big one. They're going to pick up Obama. They're going to throw him in jail. Throw him in jail. I tell you, Tulsi's on the war path. In my role as the Director of National Intelligence, I oversee 18 different intelligence community elements and in the months leading up to the November 2016 election, the intelligence community
Starting point is 01:40:14 agreed that there was no intelligence that reflected that Russia was trying to hack the election in favor of either candidate. The evidence showed, the intelligence showed that again, Russia did not have either the intent nor the capability to be able to impact the outcome of the United States election. So it was very striking when we look back again at the documents that I declassified and released that shows there was a shift in early December, the first week of December. Again, another document was produced by the Intelligence Committee, a President's Daily Brief that was consistent with every other assessment that was done
Starting point is 01:40:54 previously leading up to the election. Russia did not, this is after the election now, did not attempt to affect the outcome of the American election. That was never published. Hours before would have gone into President Obama's President's Daily Brief, it was pulled by a senior-level intelligence official saying that they had to pull it because they had received new guidance. The very next day, this meeting was called a National Security Council meeting, bringing together all of the senior leaders of President Obama's cabinet,
Starting point is 01:41:31 and the topic that was put forward was a sensitive matter. The tasks that came out of that meeting was coming from President Obama directing the intelligence community, then Obama's ODNI director, Clapper, to produce a document, to produce an intelligence assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the outcome of the election that had already occurred, electing Donald Trump to the presidency. This document that they published in January of 2017 was the foundational groundwork that they continue to reference over and over and over again, to enact this years long coup against President Trump. Tulsi Gabbard needs to be able to explain this in 30 seconds.
Starting point is 01:42:21 She's doing a horrible job here. It's like what? That's an interesting point. Like what, what did you just say? What? Huh? What did she say? Yeah. Yeah. She's got to boil this down better. I mean, this is a good story. It's a great story. And they're Jen she's not, she's not the sound bike girl that she needs to be. No. That's a skill.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Yeah. Now, she definitely is long-winded, too complicated, pulling in things that are obscure. Basically, if we boil it down, they lied. They knew there was no collusion with Russia, and they launched it anyway. And they literally walked Christopher Steele around to all the media outlets and said listen to this guy. He's back.
Starting point is 01:43:11 What? Christopher Steele is back. He's back? Is he on TV? He just came out this morning. He's floating around doubling down. No, these are lies about me. Oh, that's great. Well, as a reminder, here's Adam Schiff. The Russians offered help, which we know they did. The campaign accepted help, which we know they did. The Russians then delivered help, which we know they did.
Starting point is 01:43:32 There is circumstantial evidence of collusion. The case is more than that. And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now. So you've said on more than one occasion that you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaign's Russia collusion last March you said you had more than circumstantial evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia certainly said that there's ample evidence of collusion
Starting point is 01:43:57 can you agree that there has been no evidence of collusion coordination or conspiracy that has been presented thus far between the Trump campaign and Russia? No, I don't agree with that at all. I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy. But we do know this. The Russians offered help, the campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Any collusion? Yep. It's going nowhere. And that is pretty damning. Any collusion? It's going nowhere. It's a good story, but they're not rolling it out right. I agree. I agree that they're not rolling it out right and she's not doing the job. She should be. I mean, I think it's admirable that she's done this in the first place. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:44 And she's named names and she's got everybody kind of cornered and everyone's freaking out about it, but it's just not being done right. I don't know if they're even freaking out about it because it's, you know, it's... Well, there's some freaking out about it because they got Steele back, he's coming back and then they're going on and on. I've heard two or three people come on and say, well, she's, you know, she's, what she's saying is not quite true because she's conflating this with that. Well, it sounds like they keep bringing up the Facebook.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Facebook got tons and tons of, and Facebook, we already know the Facebook story. They got $100,000 worth of ads, nothing. I think I have that here. Hold on a second. Um, and the ads were lame. Yeah. But they were funny. Wasn't like 650 bucks worth or something at the end of the day. It was like nothing. They just dropped. It's like somebody's pocket change. Where was that? I know I had the, I had the clips. We had a number of clips about what they did at Facebook.
Starting point is 01:45:40 No, but I, but I had a recent one. Let me just see. Oh, a recent one. Yeah. It was one of these, what was it? This morning thing a recent one. Let me just say. Oh, a recent one. Yeah, it was one of these. What was it? This morning thing. Hold on. Let me see. That's a hoax Epstein.
Starting point is 01:45:51 So much Epstein, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hmm. No, I can't find it. I was sure. Oh, maybe it was here. Hold on. Uh, no, no, I don't know where it is. I don't know where it is. I don't know where it is.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Geez. All right. It might pop up somewhere. I don't know. I had it where some guy was going on. Well, here she was on Maria Bartiromo. I was told that that's why they rated Mar-a-Lago. That they wanted to find the Trump-Russia documents that indicated there was absolutely
Starting point is 01:46:30 no collusion and that there was no evidence to even start such an investigation. But Trump didn't have it there in Mar-a-Lago, but that's why they raided his house in 2022. Yeah. Okay. That was probably true. Yeah, it could be true. Yeah, it could be true. Yeah. That was probably true. Yeah, it could be true. Yeah, it could be true. Something was up.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Yeah. Hey, what's this 988 stuff you got? I've been looking at it all day and people should know John sends me his clips in the morning. I don't listen to him. I look at him because I put him into a little JCD clips bin, but I want to be just as surprised as you are or just as disturbed. Uh, well, I was surprised about it too, cause I didn't know anything about this. I should have, I know we both should have about 9 8 8. You know, you can dial 9 8 8 on the phone.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Oh, is this the, uh, the, the transgender helpline? Well, no, it's a hot, it's a, it's a mental health hotline that had some transgender stuff, but they blasted... The whole thing makes no sense when you listen to this report. It's a bunch of short clips. I think one's long, but let's play these clips. A few years ago, I started seeing these signs posted all over my city, in the metro, in public places, sharing this three digit phone number, 988. That is the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. And it was launched on this day, exactly three years ago. When you call the line, you've reached the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. The first thing you hear is a pre-recorded
Starting point is 01:48:02 message. With options to connect to specialized support for populations at high risk of suicide. Last month, the Trump administration announced it was canceling funding for a 9-8-8 LGBTQI plus service. That service alone has received over a million contacts. Otherwise, to talk with a counselor, stay on the line or press zero. And then what happens is that using nearby cell phone towers, the system routes your call through an existing network of 200 local and state-funded crisis centers
Starting point is 01:48:48 and connects you to a trained crisis counselor who works in your area. That person picks up the phone and listens. Since launch, the line has been contacted millions of times through calls, texts, and the 988 chat box. And a new study led by researchers at NYU and Johns Hopkins estimates that 1.6% of the U.S. population used the line between July of 2022 and December of 2024. Oh, I, okay. Now I know what the story is. They canceled option number three.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Yeah, but when you listen to the whole presentation, it's, it's, it's bull crap. They never really cancel anything. Oh, okay. The Trevor project takes care of the whole deal and they still pass it on. It's, it doesn't mean they just, this is just a typical NPR lame attempt or PBS does NPR, a PBNNPR I think. It's NPR. It says NPR, but I get mixed up, as you know, when you play the jingle, it explains it. I was not at Bohemian Grove.
Starting point is 01:49:52 I was at a different camp. I want to talk about 911. A previous generation, you know, my parents, myself too, was taught to call 911 for any crisis, including a mental health crisis. How is a call to 988 for those crises different? Yeah, 988 is part of a broader crisis continuum, right? Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Right. These are people who are trained specifically to deal with mental health crises. The 988 counselors will almost surely be familiar with those services and those teams. They may be able to deploy those teams to you directly and stay on the phone with you while those teams are on their way. So sure, in some places somebody would call 911 and perhaps that 911 center knows about a mobile crisis response team in that same region and they deploy that team as opposed to just deploying
Starting point is 01:50:50 ambulance or police. I think in general, 988 centers have a much richer knowledge and better relationships with mobile crisis response teams and other kind of alternative response models as they're called that can be deployed. Right? Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:09 So this is the clip that got me, it triggered me to figuring out what is, why are they even doing this? What is the rationale? What do you think, what kind of propaganda are they trying to slip? What NLP kind of mechanism are they using? What sort of subtext are they telling us here with this bull crap? Trump hates trans kids. Well, no. Well that maybe.
Starting point is 01:51:38 This is the lead into, oh, you know, we need more social workers and less police. Let's defund the police and let's have more social workers. Because 9-8-8 is better than 9-1-1 when you have a mental problem. And most crime is a mental problem. So you have people that are out there creating crimes, but all they need is a hug. Wow. Clip three. Yeah. Whereas folks in 9-1-1 centers might have less knowledge about those services. And you and your colleagues, you set out to determine a number of questions related to
Starting point is 01:52:10 who was calling 9-8-8. And I want to talk to you about the piece you published in the journal JAMA Network Open, where during a 30-month period, you found more than 16 million calls, texts, and chats reached 9-8-88. And one finding that stood out to us was just the fact that 11% of the contacts came from veterans who were then transferred to the Veterans Crisis Line. Do you have any further comment about the fact that 11% of the contacts were from veterans? Matthew S. Lerner, Ph.D. I think it can be perceived as a positive finding. The veterans crisis line had existed for a while, but I think the public facing communication and marketing about the veterans crisis line, probably not as intense as the communications
Starting point is 01:52:58 about 9-8-8. So, there are probably many veterans who didn't really know about the veterans crisis line and learned about 9-8-8 and felt in crisis and called and were very pleasantly surprised perhaps to hear that option for pressing one. And looking at the data, you found geographic differences too. That some places in the US were using 9-8-8 more than others. What did you find? Yeah, healthcare in general, but I would say especially mental health care and
Starting point is 01:53:27 policy is very state driven in the United States. And within some states, there is also a lot, it's county driven, right? So then we have county variation within states. So we found that rates of 9-8-8 use were much lower in the southern parts of the United States. Okay. Yeah. Because in the southern part of the United States are not nuts. Well, at least they're not the same kind of nuts.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Well, we do have a lot of veterans who need mental health. Yeah. And they probably get their care elsewhere because that's brought up in... what clip are we on? The four. Yes, please. So when we ranked, you know, all the states in terms of their rate of 988 use, really big states like Florida and Texas were down there like at the very bottom. And we don't really know the why from our data, but we can speculate. In prior work and work of others, we found that more conservative folks generally report in survey-based work being less likely to use something like 9-8-8 and
Starting point is 01:54:35 being less supportive of it. It might be a matter of values and a matter of experience that in more conservative parts of the US, there might be more skepticism towards mental health treatment and counselors in general. Now, you did a really interesting second study that was published in Health Affairs. So what we did, we asked these 5,000 US adults, so we fielded this survey and we presented people with- By the way, this guy's voice is the opposite of that guy from Tennessee. This guy's voice is bad.
Starting point is 01:55:12 By the way, I deserve an award for editing this clip. I can hear your edits and yes, they are good. ...adults. So we fielded this survey and we presented people with the question of if you or a loved one were experiencing suicidality or a mental health crisis, how likely would you be to turn to each one of these sources? And we listed five sources, 9-8-8, which we defined for them briefly in the survey, a crisis line other than 9-8-8, a mental health professional like a psychologist or a social
Starting point is 01:55:42 worker or a psychiatrist, a friend or a family member or someone in your religious network, right? So we asked them this question and we had them rate these things on a seven point Likert scale. We found these five different groups. And what were those five types of groups? So we had this group that we called Seek Help Nowhere. We had this group we called Definitely Not 988. Yes, friends and family distressed. A group we called Seek Help Everywhere. Group we called Seek Help88, Yes, Friends and Family Distressed. A group we called Seek Help Everywhere, group we called Seek Help Most Places, but Not Religious Network, and
Starting point is 01:56:11 finally a group we called Relatively Indifferent, Not Distressed. I found it interesting that the Definitely Not 988, but Yes, Friends and Family Distressed group had the highest levels of recent psychological distress. Why is that? Oh, man. I would say around here, people go to the church. They have all kinds of resources at the church, including mental health people. It sounds a little fishy, their study. The whole thing, it went on longer and they went on and on and on and on. They're just trying to promote. But I think the real subtext and the real message is that we, you know, these services are out there and they're, and they're good.
Starting point is 01:56:51 They work and that we should have, do we should defund the police. They never say that. But that's what, but when the segment where they talked about 9-1-1 versus 9-8-8, that was the kicker. That was like, you know, calling the cops because somebody's freaking out. They're going to jump off the ledge or call a 9-8-8. So I guess that was that. You went from four to six.
Starting point is 01:57:19 So that's number five? I guess. Well, let's talk also about the fact that the Trump administration has cut funding to the LGBTQI plus youth service of the line. That is set to go away on Thursday, July 7th. So there you go. What they did is they said it should just be folded into the rest. That's what they did. But okay. Once that option goes away, what kind of specialized mental health? Here's what I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:57:47 I thought maybe I'm misunderstanding the service, but I thought that as long as you let your son become your daughter, they wouldn't commit suicide. If you didn't do that, that's when they would commit suicide. Wasn't that the big selling point? That was the basic thesis. Yeah. So... Yeah. Would you rather have a live daughter or a dead son? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:12 All support will still exist for LGBTQI plus young people. I think the silver lining is, pre-988, the Trevor Project has existed and will continue to exist. And they, you know, have funding from other sources as well. That will remain an option. Right. And for anyone who doesn't know, the Trevor Project was one of the groups providing 24-7 support for 988's LGBTQI plus callers. They handled about half of the contacts from this group of people. So zooming back out, just as we close, what message do you think it sends that 988 does
Starting point is 01:58:50 exist? What does it do? Yeah, I know. I think it does a few things. I mean, one, I think it normalizes the fact that humans experience feelings of crisis and suicidality and that the federal government supports this lifeline or the safety net. Suicidality.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Okay, so here's the... So, she mentions the Trevor Project, which I guess was already picking up the calls from 988. And it will continue to do so. So, it's got nothing to do with Trump. It was a gratuitous slam. Oh, Trump took this away and that away. They didn't take anything away. He took officially, he took it out of the process, but it was always covered by,
Starting point is 01:59:35 it's like the veterans stuff where it's covered by various veterans groups. And they just pass it on to them and they go take care of it. They pass it on to the Trevor group. So this was a bogus story that served two purposes. One to slam Trump, which is all NPR wants to do, slam Trump A and defund the police. That was the whole point of it. So that's what it 98 is. So I just thought it was an interesting propagandistic mechanism used for a dual purpose.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Well, let's look at some more of that propagandistic, i.e. advertising. By the way, we didn't talk about it on the last show, but there was a pretty big story that GLP-1 drugs, your ozempic, etc., apparently now boosts testosterone levels. We're getting so close to ED. We're getting very, very, very close. You're hoping. Getting very close to erectile dysfunction solved by Ozempic.
Starting point is 02:00:35 You saved the best for last. Well, yeah, eventually, yeah, that'll be the kicker. Yeah, you roll it. This is a rolling process. You roll out your marketing mechanisms one after the other. You don't do it all at once. You can't shoot your wad. So I was blown away by this, this story. You know, President Trump was talking about, Hey,
Starting point is 02:01:02 you know, Coke's going to put sugar back into Coca-Cola and so of course we have to not only discredit sugar but listen to where this Big Pharma report from CNN with dr. Elizabeth Coleman really leads to More young women than ever are getting breast cancer and there's a lot of advice online about what could it be? What changed in the last five years? I'm puzzled are getting breast cancer. And there's a lot of advice online about. What could it be? What changed in the last five years and puzzled? What can and cannot help to prevent it? Are they myths or is there real science behind them?
Starting point is 02:01:35 CNN's Sarah Seidner sat down with oncologist and author Dr. Elizabeth Komen to find the truth about cancer prevention. Truth. Probably once a week, I hear someone say to me, you know, sugar feeds cancer. You really shouldn't eat that. Is that true? Sugar is not like, going into the cancer
Starting point is 02:01:58 and feeding it, right? It's like this one way train with that M&M that you put in your mouth. And that also puts a lot of blame on the patient. What's in your mouth? It's like this one-way train with that M&M that you put in your mouth and that also puts a lot of blame on the patient. That being said, excessive sugar can lead to excessive weight. It can change your metabolic function. And we know that that is not good overall as being what's called a host to cancer. So cancer cells are living in your body and we want to make them inhospitable. We want to make your body and the environment around it less hospitable to cancers.
Starting point is 02:02:28 So did you hear it? Did you catch it? Probably not, but maybe what? Okay, well, so there's two more clips here, but you know, well, sugar, you know, it's sugar is like, you know, it's feeding the cancer, but it can add to your weight. I asked a couple of different oncologists, is there a cancer diet? And I was told no twice, except when it came to drinking alcohol. Three oncologists said, do not drink alcohol.
Starting point is 02:03:01 I'm confused. Is there a cancer diet or not? If you're not supposed to drink alcohol, it seems... Why are you yelling? I mean, there's got to be something to do with nutrition. That's a great, great question. I'll tell you what I think... Oh, whoa, whoa. That was not a great question. What was it? That was a great, great question. I've never heard that before. I thought you'd like that. I'm supposed to drink alcohol. It seems to me that there's got to be something to do with
Starting point is 02:03:25 nutrition. That's a great, great question. I'll tell you what I think we know and then we'll hit the alcohol point as well. So we do know that maintaining more of a plant-forward diet with less processed foods and what is processed foods? I mean, there are all these quizzes online about is it processed, is it not processed. In general, if it's got artificial dyes in it, it's more likely to be processed. If you can't pronounce a laundry list of ingredients
Starting point is 02:03:49 there, it's more likely to be processed than not. You want to think about whole foods, whole grains, real foods, and limiting especially processed red meats, the processed deli meats, the processed salami, the pepperoni, things like that. The other piece that we know that can be helpful is alcohol. We know that it's a carcinogen. We know that there's an association the more you drink, the higher your risk. However, this is not the same risk as having a genetic mutation that leads to an 85% increased risk of cancer over your lifetime.
Starting point is 02:04:23 But people ask me all the time, what can I do that's within my control? You can't control what your family history is. You can control what you put in your mouth and how you exercise and what you drink. And so we do know that there is an increased association not only with breast cancer, but other types of cancers from alcohol consumption because it is a direct carcinogen.
Starting point is 02:04:43 Okay, so, and here I am like, wow, you're talking about alcohol causing cancer and that was all just to keep me going throughout this commercial message because here is where they bring it all home and they bring it around to the first clip. Does being overweight or being obese make you more susceptible to cancer? It does. It does. So we know that obesity, like tobacco consumption or alcohol consumption, is one modifiable risk factor for cancer. It's just like drinking.
Starting point is 02:05:15 But we know that it can also be a tremendous battle to fight, right? And so it's something that we really want patients to talk openly with their doctors about, about what are their options. What are my options? I'm overweight, what are my options? Can I talk to you openly about that doctor? Their lifestyle options, what are the medication options that they might be able to have
Starting point is 02:05:36 so that they can start to decrease their risk from that excess weight. Oh my God, this is my fault. Like that's the first thing that jumped into my head when I heard that. And there is so much shame around that that that I think we have to really just mantle and compassionately give patients their options. Their options, which is going to be ozempic.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Let's just shoot these two people. Where'd you get this horrible clip? That was CNN. Oh my, it's just a native ad. Yes! Although it's done in a horrible, wet manner.'s just a native ad. Yes, although it's it's done in a horrible wet manner It's a category. Yeah, it's a temperance thing back. This is alcohol Nonsense. Mm-hmm. By the way when it comes to processed foods, here's my tip Anything that has a barcode or comes in a bag should not be consumed
Starting point is 02:06:21 That's your processed food right there I have a since you you brought it back. They have barcodes on peaches. They stick them on. We got a bunch of, we have a lot of illegal aliens that work at the produce place and they stick an individual little barcode on each. They had the illegal aliens have a barcode. I hear. I stick them on them. Yeah, it's on their butt.
Starting point is 02:06:43 So you brought back a segment and I'm going to reintroduce it again. This is the side effects. Side effects. You're one of the great segments of the New Agenda Show. Here we go. If you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, Farcega can help you keep living life because there are places you'd like to be. Serious side effects, including increased ketones and blood or urine and bacterial infection between the anus and genitals,
Starting point is 02:07:16 both which may be fatal. Bacterial infection between the anus and genitals. That's your taint. This is no good. Allergic reactions, dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. genitals. That's your about Farcica today. Farcica. That sounds like a horrible medication.
Starting point is 02:07:51 It sounds terrible. I would say that that was the way it was balanced. I couldn't hear it. Yeah, I'm sad about that too. But they don't actually want you to hear it. They don't want you to hear it. Good point. Okay, one more from the big pharmas.
Starting point is 02:08:07 So it might be the middle of summer, but now is actually the time to get your kids vaccinated for back to school. Health experts say it's important to not wait until the last minute to get those shots either. It takes a few weeks for children to build their immunity up after the vaccines. Our four to six year olds,
Starting point is 02:08:22 when they're first starting kindergarten or first grade have a variety of vaccines that they need to be caught up on so they're prepared to go to school in a healthy way and not have to miss school due to vaccine preventable illness. Some of the vaccines include tetanus, chickenpox, polio, whooping cough and measles. There has been a recent rise in measles cases because of a dip in children getting those vaccines. So, all parents to know that science stands behind the safety and efficacy of traditional and seasonal vaccines.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Science, science stands behind it. There it is, science. Science stands behind these vaccines, parents. Oh, Lord help us. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Science stands behind these vaccines, parents. Oh, Lord help us. Hey, with that I want to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the crisis line. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore! Yeah, well, in the morning to you.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Hi, in the morning, all ships, sea boosts on the ground ground feed the air subs in the water and all the dames in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count. Don't move. Here we go. 2418 trolls tuning in peak trollage. Thank you very much trolls. in peak trollage thank you very much trolls they are listening at trollroom.io or on the modern podcast apps which are this is what you want to be listening on you don't want to be listening on anything else none of those legacy apps keep it modern people go to podcast apps plural.com
Starting point is 02:09:59 value for value how we run the show we've been doing it for over 17 years. Maybe on my new show, maybe I'll just run ads. See if that works better. Run ads. Yeah. Well, you should. I mean, you might as well, that way you can do an AB comparison. Yeah. Pharma ads, you know, get all kinds of ads. It's all pharma for sure. That's where the money is. Tina was listening to- They're going to go, let's face it, they're going to get kicked off of network television by the FCC.
Starting point is 02:10:24 They got to go. They got to go. They got to go to the podcast. They got to go somewhere. They got to go somewhere. It's going to be you. I can always get farmer's dog to advertise. Farmer's dog. Woof, woof.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Farmer's dog. What's that in the refrigerator? Oh, you're an idiot to do that. Oh, kick him out. What are the other pot you know if you have you listened to the radio I mean also just network or the cable news it's 20 minutes an hour of ads it's so boring. You flip channels and it's ads ads ads ads ads. Everywhere is ads. It's just insane.
Starting point is 02:11:07 And we're so spoiled because we don't run ads. We just thank our supporters, our producers, who produce in many different ways by sending us nasty notes. We appreciate that, of course, but also no longer go to meetups. This is great. Your time and your talent is waning And they also support us financially time talent treasure That's how we like to that's how we like to run this show and it's been that's been pretty good for us
Starting point is 02:11:34 Life's been good to us so far And we want to thank the artists who brought us the artwork for episode 1782 we titled that circularity and this was a good one. This was a Scare Manga original which he also did you see him animated later on X he had an animated version of this? No I missed it. Yeah where so this is Scare Manga did a Annie with what we believe to be might be a typical Annie user and they're sitting on the couch together. And in the animated version, Annie gets up and walks out of frame and then the Annie
Starting point is 02:12:12 user with the No Agenda All Seeing Eye t-shirt then eats his huge sandwich and just chomps it down. It's a scare-mangaman. It must have cost him $20 in credits. I wonder what that does cost him. Well, just ask him. He'll tell you. Scare Manga, what does it cost to animate something like that? Because he started off with the animation of us and the podcast awards.
Starting point is 02:12:36 And that must have cost him a lot of money. I mean, I don't know what it is. Maybe he's rolling in dough. Maybe he's got a thing going on where he's getting it free. That's possible. No, well, eventually it won't be free. It was a good piece though. At least it was the best one. There were some other ones. Let me see. There was something I liked that you just hated. NoahGeneraArtGenerated.com is where people upload all of their artwork for every single show.
Starting point is 02:13:09 I mean, where people put their prompted artwork up. Oh, I liked the dingbat, Annie. You didn't like that one. Yeah, I did. You're right. I just thought it was horrible looking. Oh, okay. Well, see, you hated it, I told you.
Starting point is 02:13:22 It was horrible. I didn't hate it. And that was it. Not a hater. It was horrible, I didn't hate it. That was it. Not a hater. There was a lot, for some reason Richard Page decided to put a lot of cell phones in drawers, I'm not sure, we didn't talk about it. There was you on OAN, which was horrible.
Starting point is 02:13:40 I love it when people go on X and say, yeah, I made a Coldplay version of You and John. It's like not even close. It's horrible. Not even close. It's amazing. Everything is so boring. The AI has killed art. All you do is complain.
Starting point is 02:14:04 Yes, because it's killing art. I like the fat guy in the anime girl. That was okay. I mean, you could have done that with Photoshop. You didn't need to do AI. This is absolutely true, but it would have taken a lot longer. That's the key. That's what they're talking about. That's what they've done. They've caved to a time constraints. Yeah. Yeah. People used to spend the whole show working on art and then when they see people come along and just prompt something like screw, I'm not doing this. If I'm not getting chosen, I get it. It makes total sense.
Starting point is 02:14:39 Well, thank you, Scaramanga. Good job. It was certainly the best piece. And again, it all comes down to the concept, no matter how you execute. By the way, he also is on that little, on the pennant back there. Yeah. He's got that little phrase that we talked about. I saw that. Yes. I mean- Very cute. Yeah, that was cool. That was cool. Let's thank our donors, our executive and associate executive producers. Here's how it works. You can donate any amount at any time for any reason. That's how value for value works. If you get any value out of the show,
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Starting point is 02:15:36 We'll also read your note and you can use that credit for your lifetime. Even use it on IMDB.com. If you don't have one, you can start that and you can be like a Hollywood big wig. If you come in with $300 or above, then you become an executive producer of that episode. And we will read your note. And we got a beautiful, beautiful blessing here from Mike and Silva, $2,009 and seven cents. Let me see. They sent in a note with that. $2,009.07
Starting point is 02:16:13 In the morning gents, coming to you from Rödelben, Germany, so I'm hoping that I get in under the wire for the doctorate credentials. In retrospect, I've been a douchebag for far too long. Please D-Douche. Or long. Please, dedouche. Or dededouche. You've been dedouched. 2009-07 is in celebration of my wife and my 16th wedding anniversary. We were married July 7th, 2009, and they never had a fight as far as instant I'd goes please put
Starting point is 02:16:46 $1,004 and 53 cents towards my wife Sylvia making her Dame title as Dame Sylvia I said Sylva but that was a typo Dame Sylvia the protector of our troops She spent over 40 years keeping our soldiers safe and since 1996 we were tag-teaming in this effort until 2007 more stories later. Please, I do want to know about that. For me, the rest goes in my knighthood. I would like to be named Sir Mike the Privileged Taco Salad. The story behind this title is a coworker showed me a meme
Starting point is 02:17:17 of the fact that the phrase white bread was no longer acceptable, and because of my Mexican heritage, I had to call myself Privileged Taco Salad. Wow, I'm very woke there in Germany. It's stuck. No kidding. What's the little racism amongst friends? All we need is health, karma and we'll enjoy what is already at the round table. Life is rhythm, rhythm is life, rhythm is a dancer. Mike and Sylvia. Oh, thank you. Doctorates, PhDs for both of you. And we'll both see you at the roundtable, the Knights and Dames, as well. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:17:57 Adam Munzinger in Germantown, Wisconsin. He came in with $1,000.30.26 and he wants a no agenda PhD in media deconstruction. Thank you for your courage and may God bless you all. Nice short note. Scott Schreiber comes in with the Bitcoin. There you go, executive producer. I told you it would work. Yeah, I haven't seen one cent in the bank account. 384.47 in Satoshi's 325,154 Sats. ITM Gitmo Nation, thanks for all the value over the years.
Starting point is 02:18:40 On my way to knighthood, I'd like to request for me and my wife some stateside retail distribution karma to help build our luxury children's clothing brand we've been working on for the last years. There have been many late nights working and listening to no agenda while our four human resources slept. Check out our clothes at www.buytheriverside.es. Buytheriverside.es. Bytheriverside.es.
Starting point is 02:19:07 Scott Schreiber, Madrid, Spain. Sincerely, Scott Schreiber. Wow, good luck with that. Let us know how it goes. I'm going to interdict two executive producers from the Meetup. From the Meetup, yes. And one of them dropped off a Satoshi card that I have to figure out how to use.
Starting point is 02:19:29 What's the name of the card? I don't have it in front of me. This is John Siebert. He's in Albany, actually, California. Thank you for the No Agenda. I get a lot out of this. This note is all bullet points. I can't, I didn't notice that as funny. I get a lot out of the show. Uh, it keeps me informed and entertained.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Found the show in 2000. I wish it had been sooner. I've been contributing to the show. 2000. That's not possible. We didn't start until 2007. But he says 2000. So he's been listening somehow since 2000. And he wished he found it sooner. Yeah, no kidding. I've been contributing to the show mostly through podcasting 2.0 streams. Ah, there you go.
Starting point is 02:20:18 I understand your doubts on Bitcoin, but then he sends the thing with a bunch of gear that I need. I hit up Adam for some more sats. Over the years I've donated and he's got a number here that's pretty astonishing. And we'll talk about that later. So he came in with, I accounted for $393 and he'll be an executive producer. And then the next one, which is a long note, but it's about elevators and worth reading. And this is from the Meetup.
Starting point is 02:20:50 It's $350 from Lawrence Wolfe, and he's in Oakland. And this is, I read, I saw this note, I said, oh, it's too long. I'm not going to read this. And I started reading it. I said, well, this is the kind of information you can get on the No Agenda show and nowhere else. I, as an elevator mechanic with over 18 years of experience, I wanted to comment on Adam's trip to New York and his elevator observations. The automated elevators, yes. The mode of elevator dispatching that your experience is known as destination dispatch.
Starting point is 02:21:30 Wow. The idea has been around for a long time. You'll remember it was in Die Hard 1988 when John McClain walks into the Nakatomi Plaza, looks up to his wife's address and kiosk and is then directed to the proper elevator. Its purpose is people flow control and security. It makes sense at the location such as hotels and higher security office buildings. Yes, it negates the need for a car call button as you are directed by the hall dispatch controller. Only one button is the lobby call button.
Starting point is 02:22:08 I seem to remember John saying that maybe the reason for it was to prevent kids from pushing all the buttons. Now this is where, this is the most interesting part of the note. Nobody knows this. This is actually prevented by another feature known as anti-nuisance. The elevator has a sensor known as a load-wear that determines how much capacity has been attained in the car. If too many buttons are pushed for the load detected by the load-wear,
Starting point is 02:22:41 the controller will cancel those placed calls Really so some you know, they weigh and they say wait, there's not a hundred people on this thing And I hope this elevated your understanding. He says as a pun He's sir. Lawrence of dystopia the baronet of maxwell park Well, it's kind of interesting because I got a note two shows ago from one of our producers. Hold on a second. And he had a different explanation for the, by the way, it is of course bull crap because you have to press, instead of pressing one button and then a button on the inside, you
Starting point is 02:23:19 have to say, I want to go somewhere. Then you have to type in the floor you want to go to so it's at minimum it's one extra button push. And let me see if I can find this. It was one of our producers I think in Australia and he said no no the reason for this is so that they can put in less elevators, which costs, which is a huge cost savings. So yes, it does help traffic flow a little bit,
Starting point is 02:23:52 but only, so it really doesn't give you any benefit. It, the benefit is they don't have to put in six elevators. They can put in four elevators. So it doesn't really save you any time. Whatever the case. Yes, whatever the case. Exactly. It's a joke. Yeah, it is. Sirkogen.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Anyway, he came in with 350. Thank you very much. Put him on the list. Sirko... You're going to have to give them to me later. I will. Okay. Sirkogen, National Park, New Jersey 34375 no carmenita just been a while since I donated says Jim sir Kojan. Thank you. Oh I'm up again. You are.
Starting point is 02:24:37 Commodore G in Cincinnati, Ohio 34375 1783 was a very good show. Oh 375 1783 was a very good show. Oh, no. Commodore G. He says very good year is what he says. Oh, I thought he said show. You're AI, you're hallucinating.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Stop it. Michelle Mathra, I'm going to guess M-A-T-H-R-E, Michelle Mathra. No city provided. 337.20. And this is a switcheroo for Hans Mathura Hans Hans and I hope I'm pronouncing that right I'll spell it right in the in the show notes Happy 49th birthday and 23rd and anniversary to dude named Ben Hans Mathura from wife and son jobs, jobs George Hans Mathre from Wife and Son. Jarbs, Jarbs, Jarbs Karma. And can you see that juice?
Starting point is 02:25:30 Please as we have a new corp, as we have new corporate overlords. Thanks John for the best health chip ever. Dryer balls. Wow. Wow, that's going back. Well, thank you very much and we will make the change. Oh my gosh. Can you see that? Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. I guess he refers to a health tip because you don't have to use those softeners, you use the dryer balls. Yes, yes, the dryer balls. Christopher Eisenhart in New Brownfels, Texas, where he used to make a great barbecue.
Starting point is 02:26:11 333 for my 33rd birthday. It's a birthday call out for himself. Additionally, we'd like some baby growth karma so we can get our first human resource out of the NICU and bring her home. Ah. The NICU. Yes, the NICU. Okay, well I'll give you some baby karma for that. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:26:39 We have Evgeny, Evgeny? Ev-ge-y-ny? Ev, I think, Evgevgeny Damaskin. It's a very difficult name. I don't know, Ev, Evy, Evy. Evy, Evy from Boston. $250 no note. That gives you an associate executive producership and a double up karma.
Starting point is 02:27:00 You've got karma. Double up karma. You've got karma. Double up karma. Karma. Colin Schultz in Willow Spring, North Carolina at 237. He's another NICU dad donation. Nick you. Just say Nick you. It's Nick you. We say Nick you. In the biz.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Nick you. I'm not in the biz. 191 for Hosea, 44 for Sir Jacob, 2 for sweet baby Chloe. Keeping up these little kids' demands that I show up for leg day. I'm confused, but okay. Hence the name Descriptor. John. John, okay, No Giggles, No Karma, Keep Up The Good Work, Calipigus Colin in Dub Spring, North Carolina. Okay, I think we got it right. No, no, no, I doubt it. Frodo and Boots are in Longview, Washington. ITM gents, Frodo and Boots here from X. As promised, oh yeah, they did promise this. We set up a lucky 33.33 sustaining donation along with since we are two bird dogs, a row of ducks 222.22 donation. This is a 222.22.
Starting point is 02:28:16 We have been trying to provide value to the show by posting and reposting donate in your comments through our X account. But we felt that wasn't equal to the value we received from the best posting, DOOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW WOW W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W W Could we please get a- Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Nate and a mac and cheese. Yeah, I think we can do that. Tink tink tink tink tink tink tink tink tink You've got Uuuhhh Do-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o slaves could get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
Starting point is 02:29:10 There you go. He likes the coffee guys in Bensonville, Illinois and he's back with 20720, because it's the 20th. When people say what's that in your mouth, you should proudly answer them, gigawatt. Don't be compromised by your coffee. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your first order. Stay caffeinated, Eli the coffee guy. Linda Lu Patkin is in Lakewood, Colorado.
Starting point is 02:29:37 $200 from her in donations and she says, jobs karma, please. And ask the question, worried about AI? Well, for a resume that gets results, tells you a unique story and highlights the value you bring, go to image makers inc.com. That's image makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma.
Starting point is 02:30:07 I'm gonna throw in one more donation from the meetup. This is from Commodore dude named Ben, named Ben. Dude from San Francisco. He came in with $200, no note. Well, give him a double up karma? Double up karma? Yeah, give him a double. You've got karma Double up! Karma. Why don't you do the next one, I'll take the long one. Irvin, Irvin.
Starting point is 02:30:32 Wheeeldon, Wheeeldon in Murray, Nebraska. 200 bucks, it's my birthday, 720. Time for another donation. He does this every time his birthday comes around. Thank you, John and Adam, for all that you do to keep us all sane. That's a good idea, by the way. When it's your birthday, remember to donate to the No Agenda Show. 200 bucks.
Starting point is 02:30:52 That's a good way to remember. Yeah. Do sarcastic and I'll do Joseph. Yeah, sarcastic the Nomad. He's in Elkhorn, Nebraska. He came with 200 bucks and he says a shout out to Sir Soot Sucker and Sir Kevin Dills, haven't heard from him for a while, for hosting meetups this week and Travis for the hospitality. Don't be a meetup denier. Show up and join the community. No jingles, no karma. Circastic, the nomad.
Starting point is 02:31:26 And our final associate executive producer is Joseph Dorfel from Smyrna, Tennessee. I'm going to say he's a member of the Dorfels clan. Quite a musical family there. In the morning to you, my fine sirs, I am pleased to announce that baby making karma works. We know it does. Of course it does. You have to now name your kid either Adam or John. God has blessed us as we are expecting our first human resource. Amen.
Starting point is 02:31:54 Thank you to all of Gitmo Nation for your prayers. On another note, I was listening to episode 1780 and heard your discussion on pots. I had recently heard of this ailment from my wife who has a co-worker who was recently diagnosed as having pots. Once you first told me about it, my first thought was, great, yet another random disease for white women everywhere to flex on us. After listening to your discussion, I now realize that it is yet another money-making scheme. It's genius. The op is upon us. Well, a lot of people disagree. I also wanted to thank you for playing part of Eisenhower's speech. Because of that, I went and listened to the whole thing. What a sad and sorry state our nation is in.
Starting point is 02:32:33 The public has allowed itself to become ignorant, complacent, uninformed, and unwilling to sacrifice for the sake of a greater future. I would go on about how Adam is right about AI, but shall abstainain from doing so as this note is already way too long Keep fighting the good fight and godspeed says Joseph Dorff and congratulations on the forthcoming human resource I'm thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1783 We'll thank the rest of our donors and our supporters in the second segment. That's $50 and above We thank everybody who comes in with $50 and above, although not below that for reasons of anonymity. You can go to noagendadonations.com
Starting point is 02:33:11 to support us value for value, any amount, any time you want, whatever you feel is right, whatever you feel is the value that you got from the show. Set up a sustaining donation, any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com, thank you to these execs and associate executive producers. Whoops, crash. If you go out, you hit people in the mouth. Oh my gosh, can you see that juice?
Starting point is 02:33:43 Crashing all over the place. Crashing, crashing, crashing, crashing, crashing. What you got, JCV? What else do you have on the list? What do you got on the list? Now that you've played the juice clip, I'm always thinking, see that poor woman, she should have been back,
Starting point is 02:34:01 they should have kept her on- On juice. On the home shopping. woman, she should have been back. She should have kept her on, um, on juice, on this, on the, with the home shopping. You're right. I forgot about that. Uh, cancer research cut back. And this is another one of these things. Oh, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump's fault. Uh, the industry does not want to pick up the tab for them, for the re the research, the taxpayers pay for and they benefit from.
Starting point is 02:34:27 We don't benefit from it. We get charged money. The taxpayers get nothing out of this. They get gypped. And meanwhile, which is a term that the gypsies were named after, not the other way around, so I can say gypped. We get gypped and nobody steps up. We have to step up.
Starting point is 02:34:46 The taxpayers have to step up for everything. This is bull crap. We had a note from one of our producers bitching about our take on this. Yes, your take in particular, I think. Yeah. Well, my take is what you just heard and I'm not changing it. You're not changing it. Let's listen to the PBS take.
Starting point is 02:35:02 For decades, the National Cancer Institute or NCI has spearheaded breakthrough advancements against the disease. Since the 1990s, cancer deaths have been reduced by a third. It's an uplifting report you got here, Joe. But now the world's premier cancer institute is in the midst of a fierce battle over its future. William Brangham spoke with Rachana Pradhan
Starting point is 02:35:24 of KFF Health News. Rachana Pradhan of KFF Health News. Rachana Pradhan, thank you so much for being here. Can you help us understand the scale of the cuts that are being made at the National Cancer Institute and are they falling in particular areas or regions of that institute? Based on what we have heard from scientists who are currently still at NCI and ones who have left is that the cuts and the upheaval overall that is happening to this agency are unprecedented. They have never seen anything like it. There are people who are leaving and also being cut that work on various aspects of cancer research and communication. And the second thing is research money is being cut at NCI and across the board at the NIH.
Starting point is 02:36:10 So what you're seeing is very rapid escalation in the amount of money that is being trimmed for studying all sorts of interventions, right, to reduce cancer mortality and morbidity in this country. How does the Trump administration explain that? Hold on a second. We just heard that if you stop drinking alcohol and take ozempic, you're going to be okay. What more research do we need? You also noticed something else she said in that little bit, which was research and communication.
Starting point is 02:36:42 No, that's marketing. This is about the cuts of the PR people. Marketing. Yeah, the marketing people. Hmm. We've heard this before, because I think when Kennedy came in, they didn't like the way they were messaging and they were doing websites and they were telling people this and that and the other thing,
Starting point is 02:37:00 and they got rid of most of the PR people. I mean, the State Department has thousands of PR people. The number of PR people that work in the government and get paid well is just outrageous. I mean, they're just doing everything. That's the communications part. Can't they just use AI for that? Well, let's hope not. How does the Trump administration explain that?
Starting point is 02:37:25 Because it seems like funding cancer research and cures for cancer seems like a no-brainer in any administration. The Trump administration, in response to our story, they actually said that it was misleading and it's a biased narrative and that they are essentially refocusing the National Cancer Institute's work and it represents a necessary transformation. And that the Department of Health and Human Services, which is where NCI ultimately sits, still values and plans to prioritize research into cancer and other health conditions. And so that is what they are saying, essentially, it's necessary
Starting point is 02:38:02 under the administration's policies and to sort of realign what NCI is doing. Yeah. In other words for, there's two things about this report, classic PBS. No numbers are given. What numbers? What are we talking about? They took a dollar away, $10 away, 1%. I mean, what did they take away? They never says, and then they say there's a reorg. So the reorg, which got rid of all the communications people, all the PR people, it seems to me is what it was all about.
Starting point is 02:38:32 We're spending too much money on PR. Let's put it toward re or actual research. How about that for an idea? And no, no, no, she's not buying into it. All right, Elmer. And from talking to researchers and clinicians within the NCI, what have they said to you about what the impact of these cuts has been? They say that it is harming research severely. We had one scientist saying that people will die,
Starting point is 02:39:02 that people will die, that people will die, that people will die because there are life-saving efforts that are being curtailed at this moment. I think the other thing that's really important to underscore is so many people we talked to inside the government and even outside the government said it is inexplicable why this is being done. They don't understand the aim, the objective, because we have seen so much progress in the fight against cancer in this country and around the world. But that being said,
Starting point is 02:39:35 it is still the nation's second leading cause of death. Only heart disease surpasses it, right? In 2023, which is the most recent data we have, over 600,000 people in the US died from cancer. And we still have millions of people that are diagnosed with it every year. And so there's clearly still a lot of work to be done. And NCI has contributed an almost immeasurable amount toward reducing cancer deaths in this country. But what if it's immeasurable, what is the amount?
Starting point is 02:40:06 Oh, it's immeasurable. You can't measure it. That's... You can't. It's immeasurable. With what? With what? How have they done that?
Starting point is 02:40:15 No, no, you have to be quiet, quiet, quiet. I want to know. Quiet, slave, shut up. Is this, is this some drug that I'm unaware of that I should be taking? That they develop? She also mentions, she's the people who will die. This is the talking point that Democrats use for everything. USAID is having money taken away. People are going to die. Yeah. Yeah, I know. This is quite annoying. They use this a lot. Elizabeth Warren does it all the
Starting point is 02:40:38 time now. People will die. People will die. People will die. They will die. People will die. Yeah, people die. All right. All right. Does this also impact current cases, people who are living with cancer now, being treated for their cancer today? I think it does as part of widespread firings that HHS carried out earlier this year
Starting point is 02:41:03 across the department and many important agencies. Among the people who lost their jobs were most of the workers inside of NCI's communications office. Those workers were responsible for disseminating really important health information. Important health information. And that includes information. Like don't drink alcohol and take ozempic. That is found on cancer.gov,
Starting point is 02:41:26 which is a website that is used widely in this country by cancer patients and their families. And also updating resources that physicians and other clinicians who care for cancer patients rely on with the latest research about a particular disease or a particular type of malignancy. And so the fact that those resources are not being updated
Starting point is 02:41:49 because most of the workers were fired will have an immediate impact on cancer patients who are looking for information about treatments and research to help inform their care. I'll get a WordPress blog. Listen to this. So I go to cancer.gov and there's two big areas right at the top of this page. On the left for people affected by cancer and on the right
Starting point is 02:42:13 for researchers. Support for the best science underpins everything NCI does. Explore our resources to help researchers conduct their work and apply for funding and training opportunities. And then they have articles, why are cancer diagnoses rising in people under age 50? If only you could figure out what changed. The facts? I don't know, man. Get answers. So, okay, so I need web developers, I guess.
Starting point is 02:42:49 Whatever. All right. I'm worried, last clip. Oh, I'm sorry, last clip is number four. Here we go. Does this also impact current cases, people who are living with cancer now, being treated for their cancer today?
Starting point is 02:43:06 I think it does as part of widespread firings. Well, that was number four then that we've played it out. We played them all. Well, I have a report from UK, which I thought was interesting. They're trying to do this everywhere in the world. The UK appears, not quite there yet, but appears to have pushed it through. In the United Kingdom, they can work, pay taxes and serve in the military. Now 16 and 17 year olds might be able to vote in the next general election. These students are cautiously optimistic about the decision.
Starting point is 02:43:39 I'm happy about it because it's always really annoying watching older people vote, but realistically it's not going to affect them, it's going to affect our futures. So yeah, I'm happy about it. But there is that small worry about people who are just going to take their parents' opinions. The move fulfils a campaign pledge by the Labour government and brings the whole of the United Kingdom in line with Scotland and Wales, who have already made the change. Some conservative critics have questioned whether young people should be able to vote when they aren't deemed old enough to get married or stand for election. But specialists say teens are well informed.
Starting point is 02:44:17 We know from where other countries where this is introduced is that actually 16, 17 year olds are making decisions of anqual quality to older voters. Young people have also expressed concern about misinformation on social media. I think it's definitely a problem. I know lots of people who are really very impressionable, but I think it is a small minority of people that will actually get affected by far right or far left social media. The government announced a proposal on Thursday as part of a sweeping reform to the democratic system.
Starting point is 02:44:48 It will also include extending acceptable forms of ID, improving postal votes and clamping down on rules on political donations. But first, it will have to be scrutinized by parliament. It's going to be very interesting how that unpacks if they actually get it through. 16-year-olds. I don't know. It seems like 16 year olds. I don't like it. No.
Starting point is 02:45:08 I'm an old fart. I don't like it. 16 year olds don't know Jack. Okay. That's. And they're just gonna, you know, they're gonna. No. No.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Although they could be exploited. Well, yeah, that's, I think that's the idea. I mean, that's the idea. The idea is to exploit them, but how are you going to do it? No, no, no. Social media, we will hire back some of those web people. Yeah. I have a little sidetrack I want to go on.
Starting point is 02:45:36 Just one clip. This is Alex, I think it's Wilkins is her name, Alexis Wilkins, the girl who is the suspicious Mossad agent, a 26 year old. Oh, this is who? Patel is dating her Patel's date. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and she's she's now wait, but she's a Mossad agent Well, this is what they're saying. Oh Okay, in fact this guy who this guy's Stein, I think his name's Stein I can't remember who she brought she brings him him on the show. She's doing her show remote. She has a show. Oh, she has a podcast. Highly scripted. I've seen her.
Starting point is 02:46:15 Oh, it's, it, it, yes, it's, it's not spontaneous. She's a cutout. She's a cutout. She's a limited hangout. So she's at Turning Point USA. They have a media segment. I guess they're all being podcasting from there. I want to talk about that for a second. After we play this clip of her, she brings this guy on who talks about her being, she's been, you know, kicked to the curb as a spy and he has to and they go and bend, they go back and forth with their their with their lively banter Okay. Hello everyone. Welcome to the Rumbles. Oh no
Starting point is 02:46:53 This is this is what I do with my new podcast Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. Hello everyone. Welcome to the Rumble studio at SAS Turning point USA here in Tampa, Florida. We are so happy to be here I'm Alexis Wilkins. If you've watched the show before, you know, this is between the headlines We took a brief hiatus, but we are so back moving to a live stream format and very excited to be doing it I have with me temp on a blimp Alexis I just want to say thank you for having me but- Oh, it's Alex Stein. Stein 99.
Starting point is 02:47:27 The guy who goes into the city council meetings. That guy. Yeah, that guy. Fine. In the building, Alexis, I just want to say thank you for having me but you got canceled this week and I kind of got canceled yesterday and I think it got revealed that you and I are both Mas massage agents working for Benjamin Netanyahu. So we're toast. We're finished. I think
Starting point is 02:47:49 we have to retire. It's it's an internet meltdown. But you know, it's unfair. And I see the attacks on you because like, obviously, cash is a very powerful guy. But this is what's unfair. They came after me too, like when my mom died, you know, they said that I killed my mom. I'm sorry. It is really bad. But my point is like with the internet, it doesn't even
Starting point is 02:48:06 matter what you say or do, you're going to find a conspiracy theorist and I'm a conspiracy theorist to create a conspiracy about you and share it on the internet, you know, it's just, it's just because you're well known. It's in the water. And it's funny because coming from someone who you know, obviously, there's a lot of context here of, you know, you know, you know, what's going on in our country.
Starting point is 02:48:27 Yeah. And, and I understand that people need a villain. I do get it. I get that people need a head on. She's not a villain though. Well, exactly. That's the thing is like they want anything. And so they'll pretend that I'm the CEO of PragerU, which I'm very much not.
Starting point is 02:48:44 That's what I see. I see they share that thing where I said that. And what did you even work for PragerU, which I'm very much not. That's what I see. I see they share that thing where it said that. Did you even work for PragerU that long? I mean, what? I mean, short form content. I mean, you made some videos for him. But once again, Dennis Prager is a great guy because he's Jewish. Now you're a massage spy.
Starting point is 02:48:57 So it's just kind of a weird thing where if you even have one crumb, do you work for a Jewish guy? Now that means you work for Israel. And listen, I hate that. It's always a conspiracy theory. I hate, my last name's Stein, I actually was baptized, I'm actually a Christian, and everybody's like, oh, you're this Jewish agent.
Starting point is 02:49:13 And I don't like that. I apologize for the invention of podcasting. You should. This is very, Because this is actually the typical, today's typical podcast. Yeah. Yeah a Gap couple gas bags going on and on So so the question so you went to an event where Charlie now Charlie Kirk to me is an interesting character because he is one
Starting point is 02:49:42 Of the great self promoters of our day He's a great speaker. He's a marketing genius and I don't care much for what he's up to, but he's a marketing genius and you saw him speak and you say he's a great speaker and I can believe that because he spends all his time honing his skills. And he's also a good debater because he's a master debater as a matter of fact. Yes, he is. Because he gets, you know, he does all these viral, he creates his own viral videos of him slamming some poor asshole
Starting point is 02:50:18 that comes up and argues with him for a minute. Well, this is really his thing is where he went to college campuses and just went. Yeah, he's the change my mind guy. No, no. No, I mean, he is, he's the real change my mind. The guy who sits at the table says change my mind, which, you know, that's Crowder. Boobs are ugly, change my mind kind of thing.
Starting point is 02:50:39 That's Crowder. Yeah, Crowder. But I think this is the real, because he argues, he puts, he's just really outstating. But you say he flies around in a private jet. He's, you know, the guy's 27, 28, 29 maybe. I don't know how old he is, but this guy's remarkable. But why does he get, he gets everybody's attention. Do people get paid to speak at his events?
Starting point is 02:51:09 No, uh, people want to be seen at his events. He, uh, so a lot of people here in Frederick, in fact, we've been invited. Uh, we couldn't go, but we are invited. We, in fact, we got an invitation from some people at boot ranch. Remember boot ranch? Boot ranch, the bar. No boot ranch? Boot Ranch the bar? No, Boot Ranch, the eight million dollar homes. Boot Ranch was 20 million dollars. Oh, Boot Ranch, that area with all those high end places. So Turning Point USA really became the thing for wealthy people to donate money to because it was going to be the youth and I think it arguably was very successful.
Starting point is 02:51:48 The youth that were going to change America and to be fair about it, I think putting money into a group that organizes youth the way Charlie Kirk does it is a lot better than anything the Democrat party does to organize youth, you know, by cutting off their genitals and giving them blue hair and putting them on TikTok so you can retweet them. What happened to your nose ring? And of course he has a very strong biblical element to him because the guy can quote scripture like nobody have ever seen. Yeah, he's memorized the Bible. He's really good at it. But he also understands it. You don't want to get into a
Starting point is 02:52:25 debate over scripture with Charlie Kirk. And yes, he's very open about the jet because he does so many events. I think he's on the road 200 days out of the year and he goes from event to event to event. And so I don't think people are getting paid to show up at the event, but the turning point USA, we could probably look them up. Let's take a look at what, what, what turning point brings in. A lot of money. Yeah. A lot of them and P and they have extra, um, what do you call it? Here?
Starting point is 02:53:00 Let me see. TP. Let me see if it's under TP USA. Um, you know, here it is. There you go. Gross receipts. Want to take a stab? 135 million. No, 86 million. 86 million. 750 grassroots activists. You know, you can pay an extra 10 grand, you get to have dinner with Charlie. And now I don't, I don't think they pay people like Candace, because she's, she speaks to a lot of these Candace Owens. But you want to, you want to be seen speaking at Turning Point USA.
Starting point is 02:53:37 You do. And so they, I'm sure they fly them in, put them up, take care of them. And it's without a doubt, it's a, it's a very, very successful group, not just for, you know, for them doing what they do, but politically, I think it's a big deal. Maybe I'm not convinced. What do you mean? I am convinced this guy's doing a hell of a job of marketing and selling and managing. This is a management issue too.
Starting point is 02:54:07 That dad gum Charlie Kirk, he's not a slouch. He's no slouch. Hey. And yeah, once you get it, that actually I was, somebody did a calculation in the one time I was saying, what about, when do you get, when do you start using a private jet is when you get to 50 million. Yeah, that's probably about right. And then you use a private jet,
Starting point is 02:54:29 and so you wave you on that. Hey. And it's expensed, so. Oh yeah, no, it's a write-off, of course. What is this NPR food podcast? Anything with podcasting right now, I'm ready for it. Maybe I should start a food podcast. I think I'm more likely to do that.
Starting point is 02:54:50 This is a, I have two ads. These are two NPR ads for what sound like terrible podcasts. And so I clipped these ads and here's the food podcast ad. We humans are born into a wondrous planetary chorus. But these days, it can be hard to hear anything but the noise of our own species. How is this changing us? This is not the podcast listening ad.
Starting point is 02:55:19 I'm sorry, I played the wrong one. You're right. Yeah, the NPR food podcast ad. Sorry, here we go. American food politics are a mess. Ordinary people are struggling to figure out who's in charge, what they're up to, and why. One vaccine critic, I think they wrote on X, I still cannot
Starting point is 02:55:38 believe that Maha wasted the first 100 days on soda pop. I can't believe that either. Welcome to For It, a podcast about food politics in the Maha wasted the first 100 days on soda pop. I can't believe that either. Welcome to For It, a podcast about food politics and the Maha age from the Food and Environment Reporting Network. Can you imagine anyone listening to whatever they have to say? No. Well the next ad, the other ad, which other ad which you played the beginning of, this is a classic. This is a podcast about listening.
Starting point is 02:56:12 Oh, groovy. We humans are born into a wondrous planetary chorus. But these days, it can be hard to hear anything but the noise of our own species. How is this changing us? And how are we changed when we quiet down and listen to the voices of our planet mates? We're actually incredibly gifted listeners. You know, that is inherent to being a human being. We have the capacity to listen.
Starting point is 02:56:46 On this season of Threshold, we're going to take you on a journey into the heart of a quiet revolution, a listening Renaissance. The world is the first storyteller that's told us the story of how to be who we are. Listening is who we are. And in a time of mounting ecological crisis, maybe listening is how we can. And in a time of mounting ecological crisis, maybe listening is how we can find our way back home.
Starting point is 02:57:09 Find threshold wherever you listen to podcasts. Oh my goodness, who wants to listen to that? Oh no, no. If I saw a podcast like that, shoot me. I will. I'll come down there and shoot you don't don't worry about it that's right everybody just listen to no agenda and you'll be fine everything
Starting point is 02:57:43 will be okay your world will make sense to you once again. We've got a groovy, a groovy podcast, end of show mix coming up at this podcast. Now I'm all confused. It's a toe-tapper. It's a real toe-tapper from Nico Syme. You'll love it. We've got Tip of the Day coming up. We do have Dames Nights.
Starting point is 02:58:02 We got some PhDs, got Meetup Reports, and John is now going to thank the rest of our value for value supporters, $50 and above. And before I do that, I'm going to thank a couple of the donors from the meetup, which came in with lesser amounts, including a Will James Robertson, who's got him. He has some three by five cards that he sent, including the one he wrote on, that have stripes across them. They're just these dynamite cards. I'd like to know where he got them.
Starting point is 02:58:36 It's a little card you can hear. Well, you should have asked him. Oh, I didn't notice it because it was in an envelope, sealed envelope with a note inside like you're supposed to do. So I got home and found them. Thank you for your quality podcast. He says, I'm always informed and entertaining. It came in with $101.79. Then we have Sir Zulbat, looks like. Sir Zulbat came in with $110. Zulbat. Zulbat. To John and Adam, 110 bucks. He's obviously a sir because
Starting point is 02:59:06 he's got the seal on the back of the envelope. Then the lovely Angela Garcia came in with a hundred dollars. She also makes miniatures. And then... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Makes miniatures of what? She makes little... She somehow during COVID she got into this. She makes these little art pieces that are tiny miniatures. It's like she uses tweezers and a microscope and she makes art. Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, I told her she should sell it to nut balls who build these doll houses. Yeah, there you go. Rick Calcet, Trent Steve came in with $51.50, but he has a total that gives his wife a damehood. And I have to read the note, obviously, because it's a damehood involved.
Starting point is 02:59:51 I hope this note finds you well. After traveling from Club Mallard to John's house, this JCD meetup donation would have put me over the top for baronet. But instead I wanted to do a switcheroo and credit my wife Rose with a damehood. Please dame her dream girl Rose of the Sonoma wino country. We are, I actually have her on the list. He needs, or she needs a deducing. Okay. You've been deduced. So he says we've been married 18 years in December, God willing, and we've never had a fight. She's been the goal of buying a house on New Year's day 2025 and she made it happen.
Starting point is 03:00:30 We bought our new place just over a month and a half ago. She's my designated drivers for many JCD meetups. I don't know why he needs one. And listens to the show on our road trips. She doesn't come into the meetups. She's the best wife and mother in the world. Love you with all my heart, sweetheart. And at the round table, we have to write these down,
Starting point is 03:00:50 give her some hook and ladder Gewurztraminer. Wait, wait, hook and ladder? Yeah, I never heard of it either. Hook and ladder what? Gewurztraminer, it's a gorgeous spicy grape that makes a beautiful white wine. Gevurt's Traminer, okay. Gevurt's Traminer, Filipino lumpia and some lightly salted pistachios. And then he wants to jingle boogity boogity and house blessings with some F35 karma and I
Starting point is 03:01:28 think that's required by the nature of this note. Okay, hold on a second. I wasn't ready for that. I'm sorry. F-35 and boogity boogity. Hold on a second. There we go. I moved that over there. I had everything all set up. You screwed me up. And you don't even like the boogity boogity. In fact, you did- I don't. I don't. I think you did just to spite me.
Starting point is 03:01:51 Boogity boogity boogity boogity boogity. What's the drivers in use for tonight? Lord, I want to thank you for my smoking hot wine. You've got Karma. There it is. Onward with the list. Starting with, that's interesting, Tyler Rapp in Fort Collins, Colorado, $140.14. Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee. One, two, three, four, five. Yeah, Mercy Me, Mercy Me donation.
Starting point is 03:02:26 The Mercy Me donation and you can count on the CEO of In-N-Out Burger being there with you guys. And they're going to help me with my new music podcast. I just decided. Good. I just decided. You just decided. I just decided.
Starting point is 03:02:42 Well. Yeah, it's going to be good. Strike. Bitcoin donation. It's a Bitcoin donation for who knows what. It never shows up in the bank account yet. Maybe they're holding the money. I have no idea. But it's $120.84.
Starting point is 03:02:58 Travis Moore in Gibbonsville, North Carolina, $100. That's a birthday donation. Go Bills, he says. I don't know why he said that. It's, North Carolina, 100. That's a birthday donation. Go Bills, he says. I don't know why he said that. It's in North Carolina. Matthew Merlino. Matthew P. Merlino in Sandy Springs, Georgia, 100. Jason Marer in Vancouver, Washington, 100. Nathan Trey Wick in San Antone Texas 90 Cole Gregory in Amherst Ohio does 8438 sir Leighton so late late late run lay run oh later on I'm sorry sir lay Ron in Dotham, Alabama, 8009. Kevin McLaughlin, Duke of Luna, Lover American Melons, 8008. Iran Pointer in Union, Kentucky, 7903.
Starting point is 03:03:55 Allen Huffman in Urbandale, Iowa, 7176. That's 6809 donation plus fees. Dame Becky in Arlington, Washington, 6996. Jennifer Rain in Snoqualmie, Washington as a tongue twister, 6935. The first rust, or surf first rust in Rock Island, Illinois, 6580. That's a Gen X donation officially. Nathan in Toronto, Ontario, 6362.
Starting point is 03:04:36 That's a birthday call out coming up. Sir, Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, AA6006. Strike again. Another strike donation from someone. We have to, I don't know how we're gonna do these. We should probably just accumulate them and use one donation. No, but they need to do is they need to send us a note.
Starting point is 03:04:53 No, they do. They need to send us their names. Yeah, you send a note with a name, please. But then, yeah. Then they have to associate with it a very specific amount of money. It's very possible. They know how to do it.
Starting point is 03:05:04 They just aren't doing it. They're just like, here's, take of money. It's very possible. They know how to do it. They just aren't doing it. They're just like, here's, take my money. But what's your problem? Well, what I'm saying is if you have strike, strike, strike on the spreadsheet, just put them into one listing. Dean Roker, 5510. Betty Boo in Dayton, 5272. Steve Hall, 5272.
Starting point is 03:05:28 John Rochester, New York, 5272. Dame Lacey, 5272. She's in Lake Mills, Wisconsin. Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas, 50. Oh, these are 50s. Okay, we're at the 50s. Let's do them one at a time, name and location. Starting with Scott, then Terrence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois.
Starting point is 03:05:47 I never heard of that place. Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina. Michael Sycora in New Richmond, Wisconsin. Anonymous in Silver Spring, Maryland. A lot of people emailed me about this. Ear mold. Silver Spring, Maryland. A lot of people emailed me about this. Ear mold. Yeah. People were very concerned.
Starting point is 03:06:13 Well, don't wear headphones. You won't have to worry about it. But you know, you could wear in-ear headphones. You won't get ear mold from that. We have an inventor in our midst who's done some made with MAMs are gonna cost a fortune but he's usually shows up at the meetups with his with his mema active Cohort and they didn't show up. Ah, the meetups are going hell in a ham basket Renee Bernhardt's grouter in St. Gallen, Switzerland, 50, and she's last on the list, or he, it's
Starting point is 03:06:49 probably he. René. René in Europe is usually a he. And we want to thank all these people for making the show. 1783, a good show. It's a pretty good show. Yes. Well, of course, because we are the best podcast in the universe, not just the pretty-
Starting point is 03:07:03 Turns out that way. Pretty good podcast in the universe. We're the best podcast in the universe, not just the pretty good podcast in the universe. We're the best podcast in the universe and everybody knows it. Everybody in Franklin, Tennessee knows it. Thank you to these supporters and thank you to everyone who came in under $50. We don't mention those for reasons of anonymity. Of course, our executive and associate executive producers go to noagenda.donations.com where you can support us value for value any amount, any time, whatever the show is worth to you, send it back to us. That's how can support us value for value any amount any any time whatever the
Starting point is 03:07:25 show is worth to you send it back to us that's how it works value for value uh go there slave go there now travis moore wishes his smoking hot wife anna a happy one she celebrated yesterday ervin weildon celebrates today nathan from tor Toronto celebrating a birthday today, David Keck the end of show mixer extraordinaire, happy birthday to his girlfriend Rose Shin, turns 39 tomorrow, Michelle Mathra, her husband Hans is celebrating and he turns 49 and Christopher Eisenhart turns 33, happy birthday to these birthday boys and girls from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe Not one not two, but we have three PhDs that we are handing out that you better get in on this item quick Here my home shopping network like lingo there. You better pick up on this item quick because we're running out
Starting point is 03:08:19 It's gonna be over what end of this month. Is that when the PhDs really go? Yeah, last year we had two shows left I think. So Mike, Sylvia and Adam, Adam Munziger, all become PhDs in media deconstruction. Congratulations to the three of you. Go to noagendarings.com. Let us know where we can send your PhD, an official beautiful PhD certificate with embossed stuff and a ribbon and the whole, it's a beautiful piece. And what name you want us to put on it and we will gladly send that out to you. Two Dames, two Knights. And that means I've got the extra big blade out today if you can grab your blade, John.
Starting point is 03:08:52 Yeah, I got a big blade. There it is, what she said. Rose, Sylvia, Thomas, Flanagan McCall, and Mike, step up on the podium. All four of you are about to become Knights and Dames here at the the Noagenta roundtable I'm very proud to pronounce the KC as Dame Dreamgirl Rose of the Sonoma Wino County country Dame Sylvia the protector of our troops Sir Finn McCool mountain man and Sir Mike the taco the privileged taco I should say privileged taco salad for you We've got hookers and blow rim boys and Chardonnay hook and ladder the woods
Starting point is 03:09:28 Tramina and Filipino lumpia and lightly salted pistachio along with that We've got sparkling cider and escorts ginger and gerbils and of course we have the mutton and the mead You should also go to no agenda rings calm and you can take a look at the handsome no agenda night and Dame ring that Is portrayed there? It's a signet ring, so when you give us the address and your ring size, we'll send it off to you along with a certificate of authenticity as always and a bunch of sticks of wax so you can seal your important correspondence and welcome to the roundtable, the Noagenda Knights and Dames. Noagenda Meetups! It's not your money! These are producer organized events, so anybody can do them. And we always suggest that you send us a Meetup report.
Starting point is 03:10:25 Let us know how it went. If possible, add your server to the Meetup report. And this is the Northern Silicon Valley, get John out of the house Meetup report. In the morning, this is Sir Rick Alston, crazy Steve the second at the seventh JCD Meetup. And we're passing penis wine aerators all around this place Hold on a second. You did not tell me about the penis wine aerators
Starting point is 03:10:52 Yeah We have a woman who's a wine expert Cynthia Kirk she was there with these I Would say phallic wine aerators. And by the way, I got into a discussion with her about wine, because when you get someone who claims to be a wine expert. There was one at DeCant. You do the back and forth with them to see how good they are. She knows wine.
Starting point is 03:11:16 She's a very talented wine drinker, taster. And she works for a winery. She has a palette. She has a good palette. I would think. And she works for a winery. She has a palette. She has a good palette. I would think so. I'm just guessing. I mean, we didn't drink wine, but she sounds like, she knows what she's talking about. So she's a good wine person, but she's also got this company called Notti and she makes this kind of these wine aerators that are shaped
Starting point is 03:11:45 like a phallus and the wine and it aerates the wine. You know, you stick it in a bottle and it was the hit of the show. Sounds like it. It sounds like it. It's rude. Yes. It's a party product. It's one of those things you have a dinner party and you do the wine with this thing
Starting point is 03:12:03 and they're, oh, look what you got there, I see what you're doing. No, I'm sorry, it reminds me of, do you ever seen these glasses, these Groucho Marx glasses with the eyebrows, and instead of the big giant nose, it's a big dick? Have you seen those? That's the level that we're at here. I got you.
Starting point is 03:12:22 Hey, Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, and I'm glad to be here thank you. This is sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baronette of Maxwell Park. I bought one of those penises and I'm very satisfied. Oh she was selling them? Yes she had a few to sell yeah. Oh goodness. That's what you want. Ben name Ben, Duke of San Francisco. I'm beginning to have penis envy right now. Joe Wall, North Idaho, glad to be here. Yeah, look, I mean, this is Sir Julian, Baron of the Santa Cruz Mountains,
Starting point is 03:12:51 hanging out with the new grand star of OAN. Sir Zulbat of Windsor here. I finally found my car keys and I made it to the meetup. Sir Aaron, Night of the Strawberry Fog, ITM. Scott Kenningham from Mountain View, in the morning. Sir Montauk enjoying a nice day at Club and Mallard. Angela Garcia from San Francisco, in the morning. I should cut this.
Starting point is 03:13:18 Yeah, I'm trying to escape. These guys are all nuts. the morning everybody all right for Wayne Indiana had a meetup here's their report Adam and John this is Shannon from Fort Wayne we hope this meetup finds you well everybody here's having a good time in the morning Dame Trinity having great time at dolls hole Don Hall's Tavern in the morning John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang. Hey, Adam, keep up the faith. No agenda, John.
Starting point is 03:13:49 It wouldn't hurt you to go to mass. The Ohio Blokes just checking in in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And the Blokes, Sheila, from Hicksville, Ohio, here with you in Fort Wayne, Indiana, too. This is Jared. I really like Hicksville, Ohio. Shelly from Fort Wayne. Thank you for your courage. This is Mike from Fort Wayne. Hicksville, Ohio. Shelley from Fort Wayne, thank you for your courage.
Starting point is 03:14:05 This is Mike from Fort Wayne, checked everyone's browser history, everyone's good to go, no spooks here today. Foam finger number one. In the morning. And our final meetup report comes from New York City. This is Dan Franco, Sir, I'm not a spook, on a smoke, hosting the New York City Manhattan No Agenda Meetup at Plug Ugly's Gramacy, Thursday, June 26, 2025. In the morning, this is Jana after seven long years in Berlin, Deutschland. She's back, baby, better than ever.
Starting point is 03:14:41 Hey, Tom, in the morning, live from the Home Depot on 23rd Street in New York City, we're all waiting for John Dvorak to pick us up. We're ready to work. In the morning, it's Steph. We're at Pug Uglies. And Adam, thank you for accepting my make-a-wish request. I'm so excited to see you on July 21st. What?
Starting point is 03:15:01 Thank you, Lord. This is Sir Spoonmaker coming to you from New York City. I'm the only one with a night ring here and they kissed the ring but I'm still pretty sure in New York City we're all gonna die. Zero sum, zero six, no authority, living my best life on my worst behavior. Yo what up? We're at the Roosevelt Hotel for the New York City meetup. Having a good time here. Thank you to all the producers. This is Aaron from Plug Ugly's here. I'm the bartender. I just served the No Agenda crew today. They're awesome.
Starting point is 03:15:35 Really nice people. Solid fucking drinkers. Great time. Alright, you got your server in there. Very good. Those are the reports. And of course we have a couple of meetups to round out the month of July on the 25th, Victoria, British Columbia and Canada, Anaheim, California and the 26th, Columbus, Ohio on the 26th and Alpharetta George on the 31st. There's plenty of space on that calendar at knowagendameetups.com. This is where you find the first responders in a real emergency. Connection is protection.
Starting point is 03:16:03 Go to a KnowAgenda Meetup. You can find them all at noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and, the party continues right here on your No Agenda show with a great toe-tapper of an end of show mix coming up. We have John's tip of the day and man, I get so many complaints about your AI ISOs and I always yell at them in all caps, email John. Why they say, man, they're killing the show.
Starting point is 03:16:52 It's no good. Why don't you email John? Does anyone ever email you about this? How are you killing the show? They're at the very end. Well, they hate it. They really hate it. How many people are we talking about?
Starting point is 03:17:03 One guy wrote me. Thousands, thousands, thousands of people. Thousands, bull crap. Thousands, thousands. Alright, what is it? Thousands. There's about 10 people. Yeah, so you prompted an ISO, I guess.
Starting point is 03:17:15 I'm just seeing it's an ISO podcast, so I presume. No, I'm not doing any more AI. That's not AI. Okay, I'm going to listen to it now. So you can understand the world wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, go back to AI. That was no good. No, no, I'm not doing AI anymore. I'm going to do this mediocre end of show clips. There's another one.
Starting point is 03:17:36 I couldn't quite clip cause they stepped all over it. It turns out that the Emmy awards has half the nominees for various shows are about, about podcasters. Yeah, man. Kristen Bell's a podcaster. Oh, yeah. It's a series of murders in the buildings about a true crime podcast. And where are we?
Starting point is 03:18:00 Well, we're actually podcasters. We're not doing shows about it. Where's my P buddy? Where's my Peabody? Where's my Pulitzer? Whatever it is. Pulitzer? No, yeah. No, yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:10 No, yeah. No, no. No, it's the Peabody. Peabody. There you go. That's the best bet we have. Here's my end of show isos. This is the first one.
Starting point is 03:18:18 Good, good. Do it. I think this is the killer though, this one. The guy's like an ISO machine. He is, he is an ISO machine. Listen to this one. People can't get enough of this show! Huh?
Starting point is 03:18:33 That's the winner. I knew it was the winner, but the real winner is always going to be John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day. Creative vibes for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes, at home. Created by Dana Bernetti. Switching gears, we have another product that people should get a hold of. If you have leather seats, leather interiors or your car or anything else, this is a leather product.
Starting point is 03:18:59 And it's not a leather cleaner. It's a leather, they do make a leather cleaner, But you want the leather conditioner from a company called leather honey Leather honey leather conditioner. It will turn leather bags leather shoes Leather seats letter be like butter. Will it be like butter when you use the leather the leather honey? It will be dynamite and it doesn't leave a sticky residue. It's just a dynamite product. It makes the leather last longer, doesn't crack.
Starting point is 03:19:32 And do you use it on all kinds of leather? Yes, you use it on all kinds of leather. If you got leather, use this. Will it work on my assless chaps made of leather? Yeah, absolutely. They'll be smooth as silk. Use this. Leather honey. Will it work on my assless chaps made of leather? Yeah, absolutely. They'd be smooth as silk. There it is, everybody.
Starting point is 03:19:48 Tip of the Day.net for all of John's tips. Created by us for you and me. Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes at home. Created by Dana Bernetti. Of course, you can also find them at noAgendaFun.com for all of John C. Dvorak's tips of the day. And if you are listening right now live then I suggest you stay tuned because we've got just two good old boys coming up as we say, what do we say? Dad gum, dad gum, those two good old boys, Sergene and dude name Ben name Ben, coming
Starting point is 03:20:29 up next on the podcast stream. Check them out everybody. Before that though, we have one solitary single end of show mix from Nico Seim, which is, as John Oren described it, a real toe-tapper. Thank you very much for listening to the show. Please remember to support us in our value for value model at noagendadonations.com. And we will return on Thursday for more of your media deconstruction. I'm sure it will involve something about President Trump, as it always does.
Starting point is 03:21:02 You think? Probably. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in the first German town of Frederick Spur... of Texas really. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're gonna start saying Daddy-O. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll see you on Thursday. Remember us, knowageinthedonations.com.
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