No Agenda - 1786 - "Best Exit Strategies"

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

No Agenda Episode 1786 - "Best Exit Strategies" "Best Exit Strategies" Executive Producers: Sir Cumferance John Jensen Adam Curry & John C Dvorak Become a member of the 1787 Club, support the show here Boost us with with Podcasting 2.0 Certified apps: Podverse - Podfriend - Breez - Sphinx - Podstation - Curiocaster - Fountain Art By: Digital 2112 Man Engineering, Stream Management & Wizardry Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman NEW: and soon on Netflix: Animated No Agenda Sign Up for the newsletter No Agenda Peerage ShowNotes Archive of links and Assets (clips etc) 1786.noagendanotes.com Directory Archive of Shownotes (includes all audio and video assets used) archive.noagendanotes.com RSS Podcast Feed Full Summaries in PDF No Agenda Lite in opus format Last Modified 07/28/2025 12:17:35This page created with the FreedomController Last Modified 07/28/2025 12:17:35 by Freedom Controller  

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, July 31st, 2025. This is your award-winning Gitmonation Media Assassination episode 1786. This is No Agenda. Looking for the exit and broadcasting almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm also almost live, I'm John C. Dvorak.

I know a lot of people are looking forward to this episode for a very long time. Well, you've been high on this episode for some time. Because it is maybe the funniest episode we've ever played. I really think so. And right off the bat, I got to give props to Sir Deenonymous from Clip Genie, noagenda.clipgenie.com, also known as Bingit.io. Because ever since we introduced Bingit.io, it's just been an amazing experience for people to go in and just think of ways that they can put together a best of show.

You know what I mean? Especially to put in exit strategy search. Yeah. Boom, a show. Exactly, got it. And so, Circumference, John Jensen, Circumference, he did exactly that. And he put this together a while back. He's like, hey, I've got a good idea. I played some of these, like the first couple of clips for Tina, and she doesn't know all of our stuff. She's only been

around for 10 years. We had seven years before that she knows nothing about. She was cracking up. She had never heard of... These dumb ideas. Yes, you're right. The dumb ideas. Exactly. But are they really? Are they really dumb?

A lot of them might think they're money makers. Maybe you should just explain to people. Do you even know how this started? How we started looking for exit strategies? I think it started off as a lark. I think one, it was a punch line to something, one of the other, either you said, or I said, and one of us said, the other one countered with, Oh, there's an exit strategy.

No, I think. Because exit strategy is a term that's used a lot in Silicon Valley. We're both familiar with the lingo. Yeah. And so we picked it up and then we started, you know, Because exit strategy is a term that's used a lot in Silicon Valley. We're both familiar with the lingo. And so we picked it up and then we started, you know, somebody said it first, either one of us could have been. I'm not sure. But then it became a running gag.

No, here's what I think happened. And it started early on, very early on, where we were looking at this and we're saying, you know, we're working so, cause I think it must've been, Mevio must've, it might've even been pod show days. I don't know. We must've been sitting, no, you don't think it was pod show days? No. I think we were both talking about, you know, we got this show, but how do we punch out of this? You know, it's like the whole idea in

Silicon Valley is you have an exit, you got IPO, you're going to get acquired, you're going to sell. Yeah, exit strategy. Yeah. And yeah, and we realized that there's no way to have an exit strategy for a podcast. You just do it until you die. Or at least some one of us dies. Until you come up with an exit strategy. And the first one we came up with was a doozy,

get your shorts on, get ready for exit strategy number one. We have a UPS guy, my UPS guy, not during the Christmas, now there's a bunch of slackers that came in, but our normal UPS guy, who's this good looking male model looking guy. Sometimes he doesn't deliver the packages until like 8.30.

Yeah, same here. 8 or 9. They're still working, I know. Well, just because he's stopping off a lot of places. This guy looks like he's the worst for wear. He's got at least five or six women that demand him come in for cookies and tea. Hey, maybe that is our exit strategy. That sounds like a good gig. Drive around all day in shorts. Welcome to the In the Morning Club, where you can witness beauty on parade all day and night.

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charon and gratitude boys it's sub means that's it for i could yeah i'm it's my next strategy and then you work one of these places script i'd like the script the writing was good this time, very nice.

Put music, they pump the music into select barrels of whiskey. They've got a Michael Jackson barrel, the Led Zeppelin barrel, and they believe that the sound vibrations expand and contract the wood, and then it molds different tastes. Just gonna pull myself on.

The Bluegrass and Nutcracker Ballet Barrels are most popular. They test better, believe it or not, than non-musical whiskey. I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty good. Okay. Everybody bought into this one. We could do this.

We could do this. We could do this. We could make water. It's pure water. So we can bring in that guy who does the water crystals. You know, when you put a note, love underneath the bottle, then the crystals look all beautiful. If you put a note, you know, no note or hate, then the crystals, they look all maligned and all deformed. And we can have our beautiful, wonderful, no agenda water, which 17 virgins stood around and said love to for 24 hours I think it's a plan it's

our exit strategy yeah baby exit strategy as pathetic as it sounds it's about the best we got not everybody we. We would not be the No Agenda Show if I didn't have a product idea. You ready? I'm listening. I'm always listening for this. Now this product already exists, is very effective to make. We could make it even as an app. I ordered an actual physical product because I don't have a phone with apps anymore.

I ordered the DogDazer 2 mark 2 and this is a small device that emits a 25 kilohertz tone of incredible annoyance to the dogs. Yes they do not like that tone. So if I'm in a restaurant there's a dog there it's gonna go on my keychain. No one can hear it. You cannot hear it. I mean if you had a spectrum analyzer you could see it. If you're over 10 years old you can barely hear anything over 15. Yeah you don't even like your birthday. I mean who cares? But I think that this could be the no agenda you know dog taser. This is the best idea you've had for months. Now it can be an app. We could make it an app. There's tons of apps. I don't know if those little things will play that note.

Sure they will. Yeah. I don't think so. What? A smartphone? I don't think a smartphone has a speaker that can nail 25,000 hertz. Distance will become a problem for sure. Distance is a problem.

That's why I like, you know, just the... I think you need a dedicated, high quality tweeter. Yeah, a device. It should be a key chain. It's just a key chain and... Yeah, the speaker does not have to be that big. Just has to be high quality. You can hit that note.

Piezo. And yeah. Piezo. Piezo, well, you say piezo, I say piezo. But I'm very excited about bringing this to market. And yeah, Piazzo. Piazzo, well, you say Piazzo, I say Piazzo. Yeah, Piazzo. But I'm very excited about bringing this to market. I think we should do a Kickstarter. This may be our exit strategy.

What has long been your assertion, which is now a show assertion at this point, is... Yeah, it's North Korea's just trying to set itself up as a tourist attraction tourist trap if you will yes and This came to you. How many years ago five six six years ago at least anything I felt about the whole journey is that? North Korea I felt as though they were preparing and they wanted to open up to the rest of the world because they've had to they spent all the money on these missiles and all that, the farming, the agricultural and food supplies are very, very scarce out in the countryside.

So now they've got to get something back. And therefore they're building great tourist resorts. We saw an airport, an entire airport, which is totally empty. There were no planes there at all. But the airport is built, waiting for people to come to this tourist resort which it will serve. So and why build that if they didn't really want to get tourists in from China maybe from the rest of the world. And they let you see that? Yes, oh yes, exactly. And they were prepared to talk about that and say we're going

to have wonderful things and evidently they had they had had people had gone to Disneyland in Paris to look at that how you how you build resorts like that how you design them so money had been invested in this opening up so it isn't just just a political rapprochement I think it's something they need for their survival now but when they do open up then what happens to the sort of regimented Kim family thought? That people are going to say, well, they do it differently in another part of the world. Maybe we should do it differently. I just don't know.

It's a very, very interesting time, I think. Pretty much nailed it. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. It was pretty obvious from the get-go. That's what they were up to. And I still think that if they get their act together, I wouldn't mind having the franchise to sell tickets to that giant spectacular show.

Oh yeah, the big show. Yeah, the big show. Once a year, you could get a thousand bucks a seat. No problem. Well, I was thinking about this in our never-ending quest to get out of the podcasting gig and make some real money. Another exit strategy. Well, here's the strategy.

So, uh, we get someone we, um, within our network, somebody can at least go buy up a block of tickets. We need a block of say, you know, 50 seats, maybe if we can get 20, we'll take that and then we're going to do a whole VIP thing. So, you know, we're going to charter the, I mean, this is, we're just going to be millionaires, like people who are in the 500,000 plus category. And it's going to be, you know, we'll take care of the whole thing, the lodging, you know, the plane, we'll have our own tents, our yurts,

catering, you know, a badge, you know, a badge platinum A badge. Platinum badge. Challenge coin. Challenge coin. Tote bag. For the starter price of I think $7,000, but if it's a couple, then we just do like 12 or something.

Just being cool about it. 12 is the sweet spot. Yeah. So get ready, fire up a newsletter. And we have the banks who are laundering money, drug money, typically. And then you have the real estate guys like Trump who launder money through what we used to just call commerce, just doing private transactions. But now we always think of everything as a crime.

Who cares? I don't care where you got your money from. You want to buy this apartment? Good, here you go. So Trump is just laughing his ass off and they hate him for it. And I just read that ING in the Netherlands just paid a 775 million euro claim or a fine

to the Europeans, I guess the central bank, I don't know where they send it, to the EU for money laundering, drug money laundering, because they weren't paying close enough attention to the deposits you see. I did some research on this to figure out how to do money laundering as a real estate guy.

You mean some job research. My exit strategy. The best one yet. Turns out it's a good one. It turns out to be a very good one and you and the reason is because it's essentially legal. Completely legal. You do not have to check the background. So Trump is not breaking any laws by being a money launderer if we could want to call him that if we even assume we're correct in our assumptions

which I believe we are. And that is because the restrictions on banks taking in cash and not reporting it from drug companies and stuff still powdery is one thing. And you have to redo all these reportings. And for example, even when we make a money transfer, if it's if you wait way too long, it gets over a certain amount, it gets reported to the IRS. Everything you do in a banking environment gets reported. Real estate, no. No holds barred, there is nothing.

You can take it, some guy can walk in your office if you're a real estate developer. With cash, with cash. With a million dollars in cash. It was very similar to me, where I had this, I had lots of money and I had a helicopter fractional ownership company and 9-11 happened. That was the beginning of a long slide.

No one was using private aviation for a while after 9-11. That's when his restaurants, the restaurant he had in some crazy place with a horrible lease and he just tanked on that. A lot of stuff you don't know about the guy Yeah, I did. Yeah, I had I had worked on I spent a cup Probably I had a file open and every once while a question would come to mind. I put it in there Hey, how many other interesting friends can we interview before they're dead or we are? I got quite a few. I just have to do it. Yeah, well, give me one name that would be interesting. Who's a good name that would be interesting?

Well, I know who would be interesting to me. I want to do him. So to speak. This guy Draper. Yes, this guy Draper is 90 something. He runs a wine. He's one of the original wine importers in California. And he knows everything about

the wine industry. You should do that. And he's finally opened up a small shop. Because you know I'm thinking with all these interviews and all I have a couple people I can call you know we've got a product. Maybe not. So our exit strategy. Once again we're going to get out of this thing rich if it kills us

title of 1071 was Kami Komi and Darren there was a lot of good art actually. Yeah, that was a Tough one. It was a tough one. We liked what Darren had done with the no agenda stencils on the tents Which is our latest get rich quick scheme. Yeah, the exit exit strategy. Yeah, our exit strategy. I'm not quite sure how it's gonna exit us. I think we basically want to promoting the show. Oh, okay. We promote the show. Once the show has been promoted sufficiently, we might get on to iTunes into the charts. Yeah. Yeah. Does anyone in Texas

think that Fort Worth is a shithole? No, it's actually very beautiful has a great airport. and that's where things will be happening. Yeah, that's where Amazon's gonna move. I thought that was a secret. You swore me to fucking secrecy. You said we gotta look for some real estate up there as another exit strategy and now you're just telling everybody? I say this because I mentioned to a friend of mine, a Lib Joe, who seems to be worried sick that he's gonna be swamped under by the rising oceans. You should ask him if he has a few hours to listen to my report on climate change. It'll change his mind. It's not that long.

It's only an hour. Anyway, he's moaning and groaning about this. So you told him about Amazon? You told him our secret? It's gonna be a great place to move. and he says it's a shithole. Wait a minute. This guy said, this Lib Joe said Fort Worth is a shithole? Yeah. Well screw him. It's not all that bad.

I like the town. Well anyway, so you might as well tell everyone now, now the cat is out of the bag. We've been researching Amazon moving to Fort Worth as their new headquarter, and you and I were like, oh, we gotta buy some real estate. It's just gonna make us rich. Don't you remember the whole sworn to secrecy bit? I made a mistake.

Okay, now everyone's in on it. That, to the best of my recollection, is how podcasting came to be. We should clip that whole thing. Yeah, I think it's pretty- And I think it's a separate little podcast. Yeah. Yeah. We'll put it on the embo. Well, actually what we'll do is a history of podcasting. I'll do an interview with you.

I feel a giblet coming. Ah, yeah, I think there's a giblet. We'll take a little, we'll take a transcript of what you just said. We'll add some more stuff to it, make it into a giblet. We'll also do it as, clip that out and make a podcast that stands alone, a standalone podcast that says as its name, the history of podcasting. Yeah, that's a good idea. It's a very good idea.

And that will take, once and for all, so if you go to Google and you go history of podcasting, this thing is going to be on the first page somewhere. And then there's the book. Is it a full-on book? There's only 8 million books of how podcasts are about... No, it's going to be a giblet. It's going to be a small, short little thing. It's not going to be a long, boring book going

back to 1927. It's going to be just about what you said pretty much and how it kind of came about and how it got named and how it got where it got and why it's just not doing what you'd hoped it had done, except in a very few instances, it was all very successful. Well, I mean, if we did a full on, I mean, we'd have to talk about Mevio. We'll co-author it. We'll co-author it Adam Curry and Bob Doyle. George Washington and Bob Doyle. Oh man.

Anyway, so that kind of sets it straight, I think. But I'd love to do that. Let that be a project. That's our exit strategy right there. Another project is in the can. Yes. He's a disruptor credited for reviving Canada's apple industry.

It takes a village, they say. Not a village, big town. He did it three decades ago when he invented ice cider, an alcoholic apple drink akin to dessert wine. It takes advantage of something Canada has in abundance, the cold. I pick apple when there is minus 10 Celsius in the apple. Instead of picking apples in the fall, he waits until they freeze in the winter when

the apple sugar peaks He was inspired by a popular drink called ice wine, which is made from frozen grapes, John You've hit upon something very big here. This is an exit strategy This is I'm sure Millennials love this whole idea. Oh, yeah ice cider. Can you imagine? love this whole idea. Oh yeah. Ice cider. Can you imagine Curry Dvorak ice cider? You know, we're like the two geezers who really know what we're doing. We can come on. Yeah, because we're apple experts. Yes, we're apple experts. We understand everything about apples, about wine. We understand that.

And I think the millennials would go crazy for this stuff. So the accuracy just increases because the sample size gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger because they keep using it. Already, I'm very impressed by facial recognition. It really is. I mean, especially if you have the right camera for it, the technology is actually pretty damn good. Pretty good.

Now, there's a couple of things you can try. Hat. Apparently, you can take a picture of an eyeball and you put it between the two eyeballs or you can put two eyeballs. You have a third eyeball? Is that what to... A third eyeball would work, but you can say, hey, I have a third eye, I miss my religion. You can put a copy of eyeballs above your brow.

Just don't. No, stop. Just stop. This is the official No Ag agenda TSA evasion kit. And it consists of a third eyeball sticker that you put right on your head. This is another, yet another exit strategy. I believe there's also some uses of glassware that would work. and makeup might or might not work. How about one of those glasses with the googly eyes that are pointing out? The guys that fall out the big eyeball.

Yeah, those. I think that would be funny. But I think the real killer here because they do, it's done through points they have to identify is the big Taliban beard. I don't think that makes a difference. I think it sees right through. I don't think the beard does anything for facial recognition.

Well, we have to look into it, but I believe a Taliban beard. So the kit includes a sticker, a third eye sticker, a Taliban beard, and the googly eyeglasses. We can get this made in China for 20 cents and sell it for 20 bucks. 20 bucks. We'm gonna be rich

I'm so rich. I'm gonna be so rich Modern modern problems modern modern problems in the UK. Well, we've got a monster of a fatberg under the seafront here in Sidmouth It's about 64 meters long we think which is the equivalent of about six double-decker buses So this is created by fat, but also with wet wipes and things. So our message, particularly around toilet and the way people use their toilets is to only flush the three Ps.

That is P, paper and poo. Nothing else. Everything else needs to go in the bin. And the same applies with fat in the kitchen sink. Don't pour hot fat down the kitchen sink. It needs to go into a container and also put in the bin. This is really... That's not true.

What? You can emulsify fat with some soap and hot water and it's just, it's fine to dump it down the drain. Have you seen any of these fatbergs in the sewer? It's 60 meters long. Well that's because people put fat down the drain where they don't emulsify. Well what's getting blamed for it is toilet wipes. That's that's what that's the the one thing I keep hearing is toilet wipes, toilet wipes, toilet wipes. Are they gonna go the way of the straw? I'll bet you they are.

Wait this is our this is our exit strategy. We need recyclable toilet wipes or something like that. Or that we make them out. There you go, yeah, you take it, you wipe your butt and then you wash it in the washing machine a few times and then you can use it again. No, or maybe better.

Nah, people aren't gonna do that. We should have some kind of butt wipe where it's kind of like a mitten. And so after you've wiped, then you fold it inside out. Hand these- Hand, no, then you can dispose of it in the bin. You know, so the whole thing is just the part, man,

I think maybe Dan wants to get one of those smart toilets. It already sounds like an expensive item. This just doesn't sound like a great exit strategy is what I'm thinking. Well, no. Well, that's all these ideas have been. Oh, man. You're going to be so mean to me now. So of course, I was looking for another exit premium, you know, an amulet or something

that could channel away the 5G energy. But of course this doesn't really exist. Crystals. 5G crystals. That's right. No agenda. 5G crystals will save your life from 5G signals.

Or maybe just a simple armband that lights up when there's too much 5G around you. That would be cool. And that's pretty inexpensive to make. That's not a bad idea. Yeah. You could just be, okay, I got red here on my band. Or you could use it and weave it into fashion so people can wear a fashionable dress. And so when the dress just lights up and there's all kinds of cool stuff because there's too many phones in the area.

It'd be great. That's one of the few times you've agreed with my exit strategy premium items. I've always thought that wearable displays of LEDs and things flashing around were always cool. I went years ago, I think it was in the 90s, I went to China and they were selling this stuff on the street and I've always thought it was just a dynamite idea.

Once in a while it sneaks into the fashion shows but it hasn't totally caught on. Well this should be very very actually quite easy to produce if we just create a little element that has the right length that it would fire up when it you know it's just like any kind of magnetic loop it'll it'll resonate and it can throw off a little electricity maybe enough to light something up on a band yeah all right I will be in the map engineers out there that can help us of course there's a little electricity, maybe enough to light something up on a band. Yeah. All right. I will be in the lab.

We have engineers out there that can help us. Of course there's going to be some douche who already did this. I don't think so. Okay. So as a part of your OTG strategy, you do need something else. And for that, I have the Surface Go, a very inexpensive, very small device. It's the size of my original iPad. I have a nice little, a beautiful little case

that it goes into, and I have a hotspot. I think you can get the Surface Go with, now with LTE. Don't get that. What you want is you want to be disconnected. If I really, really, really need to get something, the pain of turning on the dongle, the hot spot, firing up the little computer and then doing whatever I need to do, that becomes a choice of like, do I really need to do this?

Can I do this later? Is it of utmost importance? When it's really easy to do, you will do it. You have to pain yourself. And how long have I been doing this? Six months? What are you saying? Longer.

Oh, longer, really. I'm cured. I am completely cured and I love it. I can even pick up an iPhone now and just do something to get it out of there or whatever and put it back down. Notifications aren't in my life anymore except for you know one sound from my phone and that's only a handful of people including you and you called me the other day that was a surprise like the phones ringing so that is the

strategy when people say what phone should I get oh yeah I can get the the the the one that is completely built on open standards Linux hardware switches you're still going to be distracted and looking at your phone when you could be looking at other people looking at their phones. It's a lot more fun. It is funnier.

It's fun, it's really great because, I'm gonna be candid, you feel superior. You do. Well, that's your goal in life. You just feel superior. Yes, that's my exit strategy. Yeah, you can taste it. Well, the problem with bosomic is because the process for making it involves no aging, a little aging, a lot of aging, and then it involves different specific gravities,

which is the thickness. What's the, oh, gravity is thickness? Specific gravity. Is pretty much thickness. Okay. It's the weight per volume kind of calculation. But anyway, so it can be very thick and so you can pour it and it comes out kind of like a syrup or it can be watery like the stuff you buy at Costco

Yeah, and so there is not the watery watery, but it's just watery. Mm-hmm you see us it's like the same viscosity of Regular vinegar it doesn't have any of the thickness that you get on a good balsamic And thank you for for giving us the correct pronunciation Balsamic I think I always say balsamic, which is wrong. Balsamic. I don't really think it's important. But I think that because of the variation in the quality and style, I think it'd be very easy to pass off the mediocre using the wrong grapes

and making it the traditional way and getting those flavors. I don't think it would be, I think it'd be very difficult to spot, to be honest about it. Well, the scandal is upon us. I'm going to have to have some, some of the scandalous stuff. In fact, you never know. Scandalous. You know, it's possible that the scandalous stuff is better. It could be.

It's always possible the scandalous stuff is better. It could be. It's always possible. It does happen. Hey man, this stuff is actually kicks ass. We like it. It actually could be better. In fact, if they marketed it differently, I think you'd have some, for example, don't call it basalmic, call it asalmic. Ooh, nice.

You had B-salmic tri-asalmic. Oh, an exit strategy. Yeah. New vinegar. But I have an idea, we could write a book about it. Oh, I'm sorry. What am I thinking? Yeah.

You know, the guy that was taking the test for the students, he was arraigned and I guess he's gonna go to jail. This is in the college the college admission admission scandal Yes, he was doing that Scandal do you I want you to guess and I know you don't have this clip or you didn't hear this How much was he paid to take the SAT for somebody and then also now you take it but get a score that would be Apparently he was so good. He could he could Can manipulate the score so he knew what that he knew all the answers and he could he could can manipulate the score

you so I knew what that he knew all the answers and he can how much was he paid per test why would you think I wouldn't know this number oh you know it of course what do you think I do all day oh man Florida prep school administrator Mark Riddell pled guilty today in Boston Federal Court to taking entrance exams for students in a massive college admissions bribery scheme. Prosecutors said the 36-year-old Harvard graduate was typically paid $10,000 per test. Riddell could face up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Now, did you think that was a lot? I didn't think it was a little or a lot. I just thought it was

good money for taking the test. I was thinking the same way, like, because you can only pick one up, you know, once every couple of weeks, I guess. Yeah, but it's 10 grand. You do 10 a year, you made 100 grand off the top. Yeah, well, there's hope. Hey, exit strategy. Do you think you could ace, do you think you could ace the exam? I could come pretty close. I got really high scores on the SATs. Now we all know why I went to West Virginia. Now what you just said, I think is a great idea.

And I will mention the Costco and other places. You could put two or three, quote unquote, rolls on a small thumb drive and take it to Costco and they'll print these things out inexpensively about the same you'd have to pay for supplies to do it yourself, fairly inexpensively and you will have these backups. And they actually, the gear that the big print guys have is a little better than what you generally have and it also tunes the is a little better than what you generally have in it and it also tunes the photos a little bit. There's going to be an entire generation of children who get old and die and there's going to be nothing left. I really enjoy having some of my mom's crazy shit, some letters and some

photos. I like the photos. I like photos of my daughter. Old black and white photos. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Because I've saved all of the original video photos of my daughter. Old, old black and white photos. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Because I've saved all of the original videotapes of Christina. Second birthday, third birthday. There's some fun stuff on it. Start rolling them out. Yeah, it's VHS. Then I also have VHS-C. I have beta.

No, what's the DV video? Now, I saved the actual cameras so I can play it back. Yeah, this is a problem, but it's it's going Yeah, there's services who will do it and I understand the storage is going to be a problem because oh my god Now you besides your $200 lululemon pants. You also have to carry around some like a photo album And you have no backpack for it. I'm gonna work. This is not gonna work for these guys Maybe hey exit strategy. I just saw a giant truck go by, giant truck with a big blue side that said prime.

Yeah. Yeah. Amazon. Yeah. All right. Anyway, you know, they're into this. The way they're doing it is what they're into. And I think they're going to be sorely disappointed.

This is just a warning. Yeah, I agree. Which way? It's just a, hey, take it from your Uncle Adam and Uncle John. You might want to have some memories later on. And it's going to go away if you trust it to Instagram. Just take a couple, make a selection. We need to have the millennialvault.com or something like this. You just send off a couple pictures, we print them, we store them for you, which of course we don't do because we're really an on-demand printing system, you see. So we'll say, we're going to print these for you and we'll keep them safe for you.

And then when you go pick them up, which 90% will never do, then we print them off real quick. So they're also well preserved, they're kept perfectly well and obviously we won't lose the data. It's another exit strategy. Like this show is doomed. Well, I don't know. I think we'll make it out before the real crunch comes down.

You mean exit strategy? I got angry letters about this. Yeah. Yeah. Producer email me. People in my family have donated, but I just can't when you keep talking about exit strategy, bring back the good old days. I said, what do you mean when we're doing one show a week for 40 minutes and you weren't donating? I said, want that? I don't think so. So you do know that exit strategy is a joke, right? Kind of.

I mean, if we had a real exit strategy, we'd exit. Right now being on the front lines of the podcast reboot is fabulous. No one cares about us. Not a single story. Nothing covers us ever ever Was it some karma for her husband? Who's a Mainframe guy a mainframe do we have a mainframe because there's not that many mainframe jobs And we got an email from a company that says oh or someone who works at a company says hey

Could you please hook me up with that with that producer? Because I think our company would be interested in her husband And so I don't know if we made a love match yet, but we have… Did you send her a note back? Eric very properly sent a note to her with the information. We don't connect people directly. They have to do that themselves. So we're like a job fair here.

Yeah. Hey. Hey. Exit strategy. Exactly. Job fair. Hey. Hey. Exit strategy. Exactly. Job fair. Hey everybody. Welcome to the-

John and Adam's job fair in Des Moines on Saturday, in Great Plains on Sunday, 12 to 3. You know, your syrupy- Look, all you need to do is just put Katy Perry on the judge's podium and then you'll have it made. The ABC will carry it. Yeah, but see, now this is the beauty of the Eurovision Song Contest is there's a, each country has its own professional judges and they vote and they're not allowed to vote

on their own country. But then you have the, the, the text vote and, you know, and you see all the politics coming into play, you know, adjacent countries who will vote for each other. If they don't like that country, then everyone hates Russia, so they don't vote for them except for the countries that do love Russia. So it's just a wonderful evening. Apparently, Logos stopped doing it. So much for your theory.

Damn it. It's ridiculous. I do think it could be, when you mentioned Terry Wogan just ragging Damn it. It's ridiculous. I do think it could be when you mentioned Terry Wogan just ragging on it. I think I've watched that. You and I could do this actually. We could do... We could rag on it as much as anybody. But we could do a good job. I think it would be fun to have you just being like, what is this? What country? Who is this country? Where's Katy Perry? I can see it. All right. Well, I'll see if anyone is carrying it. It can happen next year. This will be a big event. We can do a little TV.

This is our exit strategy. Hey, I'm all for it. Let me see if we... hey, how about this? Let me see if we can get a feed that everyone will be watching. A legal feed. A legal feed. And then we'll just pop on our stream and we'll just provide commentary. You can sit on the couch while you do it. No, we got to do it on video. It has to be video.

Well, can't we just provide it? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, it has to be synced with the video, but we don't have to be on camera. No, no, no, no, no, no. I was thinking more like there's space science 3000 with the two of our shadows in front. You know, our silhouettes of our heads and maybe a third head. I think that's complicating and already well thought out format. Just do the

voiceover. You don't need to do anything else. How did Wogan do it? He just voiceover. He was just in the background. He was never on camera. We should have the video feed. Yeah. Just get a video feed and then you and I will just rag on it. Complicated later. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I think this is, I think this is it this weekend, that's the wedding weekend. And? Well, so… Oh, you have to cancel the wedding. Either that or we can sit in my studio and do it live together. Yeah, maybe not.

Cancel the wedding. Maybe not, maybe not. Oakland, I know him. I said, hey, Cliff, can I come over there with some gear and we can record, you know, some new material from you? And he obliged. It's very entertaining, very entertaining. Oh, good.

And you did this when? This past week? I did last week. Oh, cool. And he also makes Klein bottles as a hobby. What kind of bottles? A Klein bottle is a bottle with one surface. You have to look it up to see what they are.

But they only have one surface. It's like a, you know, the thing you twist and what's it called? I can't remember. People in this chat room know where you have a, you can take a piece of paper and turn it so it has one surface and just keep going around and around. Wow. I know what it is. I got it. Now Klein bottle. How do you spell Klein? K-L-E-I-N. Klein bottle. Okay. We'll just see what it is. Now Klein Bottle, how do you spell Klein? K-L-E-I-N.

Klein Bottle, okay. We'll just see what it is. Yeah, Mobius Band. Oh, okay. It's a Mobius Band bottle. That's interesting. I mean, is there any benefit to the Mobius Band bottle? Or the Mobius Band bottle? None. Yeah, there's a benefit. If you want to get some liquid in something, you can't get it out. If you make them and you sell them, there's a benefit.

No other observable benefit. It's definitely a curiosity, that's for sure. And he makes a bunch of different ones. So when you pour it, it basically goes back into the bottle. Yeah, that's the smart stuff. You can't really pour it out. what we should solve the you can't get it out i've got it there's another exit strategy not quite sure how we explain bob line bottles the second is we have an upload and a down vote system that's really powerful to have both so that users can actually weigh in on what is appropriate content and what's good

content and there it is this is a whole new presentation. And they're saying, we have human moderators. We have 15 to 50 moderators before anything surfaces up high enough for your brand to be tainted by it. Don't worry. You're safe with us. We got this lady over here.

She knows the inside workings of Twitter and Google. We figured it out. We've tackled it. They hired 60 people, 60 people in New York for brand advertising. And then they quarantine The Donald. Well, of course they do. They're pitching this to advertisers.

What are you doing about all that horrible discourse? All these old right people on the Donald subreddit? We've quarantined that. So if you want to be effective and if you are worried about free speech and you really feel you need to use these platforms, which I'm against, then you need to go after the advertisers and stop bitching and moaning about censoring. Go after the advertisers. Go for the jugular where the money is. This is where we could get into our pitch. Oh, the final thing I wanted to say.

I got a note from- This is where we could- this is another exit strategy. We can start that group. Oh, interesting. What group? The anti-brand group? The media matters. We'd be a media matters.

No agenda matters. The lights are on all the time. We cannot sleep because every 15 to 20 minutes the guards are yelling something. Get up. We spend all day and every day inside of that room. There are no activities, only crying. Oh, won't somebody please think of the children! Unbelievable! So not only do I not believe this,

they've now traumatized 20 other children into believing how horrible, and I'm sure it's no picnic, but this is not the way to go about doing these things. It's despicable. You know what, maybe we're stupid. We're stupid, John. No, no, we're dumb. They don't see it that way.

Yeah, we're dumb. We are, okay. We need to have children asking for donations on our show. Ooh. I'm liking it. Please, Adam and John, they have to sleep on the cold floor. Yes, but we have a number of, we have plenty of talent out there that can record a few ditties for us.

Children begging for money for the No Agenda show because it's horrible how bad things are. It's horrible how bad things are, exactly. So if we're just not- You stumble on, this is it we could actually start an ad agency exit strategy yes but the bunch of very talented area die kids this is a great idea yes what we call it kids kids for cash? Or uh... It sounds like cars for kids. It sounds like it doesn't get to...

Oh no, don't sing it. Don't sing it. It'll be in my head for the rest of the week. No, no, no. Don't do that. Well, we can use a jingle too. Yeah, we need... We're going to do this.

This is where we're going. This is a great idea. And then... Auditions are underway. And then the newsletter, you can do it with crayons i'm sure it'll work is clearly clearly this is this is the way to go we also found that and this is i think is key that many of the streaming set top boxes and smart tvs tell the sending side to send 5.1 even if the output is only going

to stereo speakers built into the TV. So I think there's a big flaw is in your Roku box or whatever you're using it's sending a signal saying yes send me that 5.1 which of course is looking for a center channel to send the dialogue through. The audio processor in these devices often does not do a proper down mix stereo and in several of the low price models There's a very poor job of the down mix levels leaving dialogue Always lower than other sounds in particular by not properly mixing in the center channel with the front left and right This is where I see our exit strategy. We need a box. We need a box. Yeah, I need a box. Need a DSP, digital signal processing box. There's an app that does this for the Xbox.

Apparently, I don't have an Xbox, but a lot of people- Call it a Foley box. Just use this software. License it. There you go. Done. Exit. Okay. Well, that's it. Last show, everybody. go. Done. Exit. Okay. Well, that's it. Last show everybody. We had the the big freak out and boycott of equinox and soul cycle. What a soul cycle and equinox the boycott we had the boycott. Remember the the CEO of the the company that owns the gym and the spin class. Oh, this spin gym, that owns the gym and the spin class. Oh, this spin gym guy. Spin gym guy.

The spin gym guy. Hold on. That by the way, is a whole new cat. That's an exit strategy. I'm going to write that down. Spin gym. So you go there and you can spin and gym. It's, I'm telling you, it's a combo.

It's the spin gym. Yeah. You're pumping away and you're pulling down weights. At the same time. Yeah. Perfect the spin gym. Yeah, you're pumping away and you're pulling down weights. At the same time. Yeah. Perfect, spin gym. Okay, I'm writing that down as an exit strategy. I guess I'm helping.

I have to call back though, your idea of the homelessness experience in Disneyland is this is an exit strategy. I think we could create this ride. Now, do you sit in the ride or do you, I think you should also experience for a brief moment, you stepping in human feces. I don't know that the homeless

are always stepping in human feces. I guess some of them that are really down and out, staggering down the street, all leaned over the ride. No, no, I mean, if the ride, is the ride, are you going to actually experience it? Like, so is it a ride? I think the most enjoyable Disney rides are in a cart, you know, and you got your music going on, you're like, you know.

Well, okay, there's two ways of going about this. I'm a huge connoisseur of these things. Ah, here we go. There's one is you're in the little car, your little car or little thing and it's going through a homeless and camp man and people are all animatronic. That's like Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, exactly like Pirates of the Caribbean. Only you're not, you maybe could be in a, in a kind of a river of pee, you know, if you're in kind of stinky pee, that would be okay. But I think generally speaking, it'd be

better on rails and you go through these things and you see all these different people. And then they have, you know, people, then you have, you go through the section where there's a bunch of politicians trying to come up with good solutions and they finally say, we just need more housing. And then you come out, you come out the other end of it

and you feel real good about yourself. And now you understand, you understand the problem. Now you have evolved. That's what it is's what the other one, which is the cheaper way to go is you put, you wear some VR glasses or you're in a VR situation. You experienced the whole thing only now it's even more realistic. Not because it's not animatronics. It's not, it's not dummies and things like Pirates of the Caribbean is the actual videos that you're seeing and surrounded by the real extension fills in life and fans blowing the smell of crap in your face

Yo And you go through the whole thing and you're come out the other end pretty much with the same message But it's just the cheaper way to do the ride Let's maintenance. I personally like the Pirates of the Caribbean version. I like that a little better. I think it's more fun. I always liked those rides better than the ones that are closed. Because you go through the city hall where the council members are all sitting there pontificating. Then you could do, well, and here's Los Angeles and here's Austin. You can have a couple, show

some differences. Oh, yeah Right. Yeah, you go. Do you get taking the car through one place or another and then you know guys begging for money in different ways Along the ride people keep coming up to your cart asking for money Yeah We're going to hell for this. There's more to this report. We already, we discussed this on the show. I had the clip of that guy who used to eat food, you know, he's very popular. He just eats, he eats like huge amounts of food and then bitches and moans and gets sick.

And this guy's got millions of viewers. Okay. Yes. That's Mukbang? It's, yes. And, and the keeper watches some- We did not miss this. Well, but we didn't get the name Mukbang and we didn't get some other important facts.

Yes, we did miss a lot of this story. Mmm. Mmm. The best, the best. Since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming while eating large quantities of food has become more and more popular in South Korea. The people who participate in mukbang have become minor celebrities in their own right, to the point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys, or the more popular term, don't laugh,

BJs. So they become BJs? Yeah well I agree we didn't catch BJs. These so called BJs have learned that there is such a thing as a free lunch. This is Park Soo Young, one of the country's most popular BJs, for whom mukbang was a full-time job. Better known as the Diva. At one point, she was making up to $9,000 a month through her fans' donations. John, exit strategy! We can do this!

$9,000 a month compared to the girls who do makeup videos is minor. But we can do ASMR, uh, mukbang. Here's an example. This is a guy eating a pizza. Mmm. We could do this. Well, maybe you're not in, but I think I need to do some mukbang. I think you should do it. I think you should do it and I'll watch.

But listen to the headline. VJ becomes BJ. I mean, could it be any better? It's obvious. The promotion is right there. Ready to go. Yeah. Well, there's another dead end wait Woody Allen wasn't already like super like super cancelled no he's

cancelled cancelled now well I mean his new movie had a rainy day in New York will not get released in the United States it was it's actually been released in Europe to good reviews yeah Amazon will not bring it out in the United States. They won't stream it. He's got the autobiography of Woody Allen, which has to be a fascinating book. Yeah, no, denied. The big four publishers, none of them will touch it. Did he do that himself? He's a writer, yeah. Anybody, he did the film about his life? Or is it just a written? No, but oh well shit. No agenda press should release that In the actual government documents themselves if you look at money that was intended for Ukraine, it doesn't take a genius

It's you know, three hundred million dollars Was earmarked government money, our money, tax money, $300 million for AIDS education in Ukraine. And that's going to NGOs and that's how it works. You set up, you know, it's like, Hey, John, we got a buddy over there, and you know, they make it in Congress and, know they got some chips in with somebody else so why don't we start a little non-governmental organization we will educate podcasters how to be free media something like that and then we'll get an earmark and we'll get 25 million dollars we put together a class no this is what it is and this is what we should be doing. I know. This is the exit strategy.

We're available. Now, you need a grant, a good grantsmanship person. Somebody knows how to write grants and you can, you can make a lot of money off of this thing that they're trying to put an end to. And I think it's wise to put an end to it because it is squandering taxpayers money. So we have the same memes over and over from all

the reporters and from every analyst on this side of the water that it makes us less safe and Congress wasn't consulted. That's it. Yeah. That's all they got. That's all they got. Congress wasn't consulted and as you pointed out and everybody really knows this, Congress doesn't need to be supported or I'm sorry informed about a drone hit on someone. When have they ever been informed of it? When Obama had his hit list, was he calling Congress up and saying what do you think Nancy? Should I kill this guy at the wedding? We went into Syria without a declaration of war. Come on.

This, I mean, but that's, that's just grasping at straws. But more importantly, did I hear you say that there's real money in these think tanks? Is that possibly the exit strategy we should be looking at? There's real money in these think tanks. If you, if you, if you know how to manage one, the, you have to have, We need somebody out there who can do grantsmanship. So I think we should have the Curry-Devorak-Lincoln-Washington consortium? Don't you think so? Doesn't that sound official? Consortium group? No, what do we need? Curry-Devorak-Lincoln-Washington confab? No, I'm looking for the right one. I think Lincoln-Washington is just a good beginning. Curry and Devorak, Lincoln, Washington, CONFAB. No, I'm looking for the right one.

Lincoln, Washington, just a good beginning. Curry and Dvorak, who are those guys? So just put Lincoln, Washington Consulting? Washington, Lincoln, Lincoln, Washington. Yeah, Lincoln, Washington, Washington, Lincoln. You wanna throw it? You'd have to write, you'd have focus group this baby. Can we put it, we just throw JFK in there for good measure?

Lincoln, JFK. No, JFK's out. Oh, he's out, okay. So I think the Lincoln Washington consulting group. Yeah. Okay. My work Lincoln Washington. Who's Lincoln? Who's Washington? Well, you know, we have to, we have to greatest president ever. How about strategic strategy group? That's better. Lincoln Lincoln Washington strategy group.

People can watch this in real time as we develop this. I've been working on our exit strategy as always. Yes. Well, there is something going on in Texas, which might work for us. I mean, it's not, it would still mean work, but we could certainly make a lot of money if you're interested Well the work part of is kind of disconcerting Here's Shelby County, Texas Shelby County commissioners plan to pay more than

$9,000 a month to a podcasting company to produce podcasts and market it on the internet Whoa, this contract is so outrageous that it just baffles me why we're doing this. Shelby County Commissioner Mick Wright is the lone commissioner who voted against paying the Kazookee Network almost $110,000 to produce podcasts for the commission. When you're talking about over $100,000, I mean, you could buy a small fleet of vehicles for that amount and still do a podcast The local I team found there are cheaper options in town It's the OAM network operates out of the Crosstown concourse here a podcast cost three hundred dollars for the first episode and $100 per episode after that OAM's owner questions why the

county is even paying for podcasts when it video streams its meetings and also broadcasts them live on the radio. The owner of Kazookee and didn't want to comment for this story but at the commission meeting, he explained the cost

this way. We really work with businesses and we work with government entities to make sure that they have a very high end product. John, it's that easy. There's a lot of counties, every County. Listen, we work with a lot of businesses and we ensure you have a high end quality product.

The Curry Dvorak podcast production group. I would love to hear these high end products from this guy. I wonder if they've, if they've produced any yet. Uh, Shelby, that would be funny. I should have actually looked into that. I'm sorry. Podcast. Let's see.

Shelby County podcast. No, nothing yet, but it's, it's something we could consider. A hundred grand a year. Yeah, for just one county. For one county, do it to a thousand counties. Boom. This is all being done through, not all, mostly being done through AID, but also the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau here at State.

USAID and a new one the democracy and Human Rights Bureau Which is also new one. Well, look. Oh, yes. I did. This is our exit strategy All we need is to write one good grant This is fun. I, it literally says opportunities. Here's one. Requests for statements of interest, China programs. So the Bureau of Human Rights of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, which is a part of

the State Department, announces a request for statements of interest from organizations interested in submitting statements of interest from organizations interested in submitting statements of interest for programs that protect and promote human rights in China. I think we qualify. If not, we could make a sub podcast that does. Oh yeah, we could do that. The program concept should demonstrate ability to improve rights awareness and access to justice for Chinese citizens, strengthen and institutionalize citizen participation in government, promote government information transparency, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

The numbers they have available for 2020. I'm just scrolling down because it's a very long thing. 700, they've won grant for 750,000 and one for $1.5 million. John, we're crazy if we don't go after some of this. That's just the China one. We could grab any one of these. Or more. This is a propaganda bonanza.

I love these guys. And Congress just gives them the money. There you go. Yeah, this is a very interesting outfit. So that's what your money's going towards. Podcasters in Venezuela. Way to go Congress. Very, very proud of the work you're doing.

I did get the message about elderberry and there's some research on elderberry and chokeberry. Chokeberry. Which apparently keeps the Russians from ever catching any of these. Yeah, chokeberry, look it up. It's another berry. These two particular products have an immune effect on the immune system, specifically targeting viruses. And the Russians make a big deal of having chokeberry and elderberry syrups and drinks

and such during the wintertime. Is this a millennial thing now? Is it like a small batch deal? I don't know, but this is where I got it from. So I'm expecting to see it. He mentioned it in his report, the elderberry phenomenon. And so I guess they're all aware of it. And so now you can somehow invest in the elderberry business or chokeberries. You're going to make a lot of money. Exit strategy, 10 emails of people saying, dude, dude, dude, dude, what was it? Tell me what, what's your website? I want stuff that makes my hair grow. So I feel obliged

to say that the happyhairformula.com is Vicky's personal website. And let us know how that works out for you. And that could be kind of interesting. We could, we could eventually have the official haircare product of the No Agenda Show. If it's any good, No Agenda haircare products. Yeah, I'd go just like the t-shirts. Nap for humanity. There's some other guys who were talking about some coffee. I just want to make it clear. Like, hey man, we'd like to put the No Agenda logo on the coffee and we'll give you a third. No, no, no, no, no, no. If we like a product, we may endorse it. I don't know about having our logo on it.

I don't think that's the right way to go. What do you think? Well, a couple things. Do I hear an exit strategy? We had a Noagenda beer out of Australia, as you recall. Yes, that's true. Yeah. And it had our logo with a out of Australia as you recall. Yes, that's true. Yeah. And it had our logo with a kind of a logo on it.

And we've had other products that all the t-shirts are done by the shop. We've got the logo all over. I don't see why it's a problem. Why all of a sudden we hate coffee. I don't. I would like to taste the coffee before it becomes official no agenda coffee. Is that crazy? Oh, now that's different.

Yeah. I will say this. I will agree with that. So we need a couple pounds of coffee and then you can put the... Yeah. I mean a little micro brew from Australia. By the way, it wasn't even that micro. It made it all the way to the US.

It was selling. It was a monster. It's actually a big micro brewery. A big micro brewer U.S. It was selling. It was a monster. It's a big, it's actually a big micro brewery. A big micro brewery, fantastic. Yeah, I know it makes no sense, but yes, there it is. On call for the benefit of the state. But senior officials tell PBS NewsHour today was also about diplomatic reciprocity. In January, out of fears of COVID, the U.S. evacuated its Wuhan consulate. It has not reopened because of a dispute over whether US employees have to quarantine and take COVID-19 tests upon arrival at Chinese

airports. Longer term, US officials say they want to reduce their footprint in China. In addition to the Beijing embassy, the US has five consulates on the Chinese mainland and the Hong Kong consulate. Senior officials say they've accepted the likely permanent closure of one consulate and intend to move it elsewhere in Asia. You know, it's really no wonder when you listen to these news reports and I wonder who was doing that reading what station it was on because there's no wonder that no one gives a crap about China because it's really not compelling the way it's delivered. What station is this? That's your PBS NewsHour. Hello? Oh my God, That's really so exciting

I don't know why people don't listen to it, but we did report on the story But just spoke of this way and then no one really paid attention to me Exit strategy everybody And I also got a whole bunch of comic books I think that's right I wonder if that's from our guy Who's is it? Are they high-end comic books with the oh the Batman character? No, let's see I'm not quite sure who this is Mike Riley's been sending out some work. Oh Maybe ah, this looks like Mike Riley now

That's very distinctive. Oh my goodness. like Mike Riley. Now, you know, Mike is very distinctive. Oh, my goodness. This is Riley. Oh, here it is. Oh, my Chimera likely. He's doing no agenda comic books. Have you seen those? They're great.

I haven't got the latest batch. Oh, my God. I had not received any. I love these. I really appreciate that, Mike. Thank you so much. He sent me some before because I requested a printout of one of his artworks. Yeah, well, it's, it's, I mean, this is dynamite work. And there's also now on the Amazon store,

I tweeted a link to it from the same makers of the No Agenda Red Book. You can now buy your very own buy your very own, uh, uh, curry devour at consulting group notebook. So that's half the exit strategy is right there. What is kind of nice to know that this problem, now you're a podcaster and not only am I a podcaster, the pod father, but it hit me Friday night. I've not slept more than a couple hours a night. I figured out how to fix podcasting and I'm going to do it. This is the last time I heard this was the, this was your exact mode. You go into this all the time.

By the way, I do. It's a cycle. I think it's about every two years, but it could be longer. Yeah. Uh, the last time you had this was you, uh, actually another time before this one, but the last time podcaster pro. Yes. Which road finally did. Yeah.

And so I was right. I, uh, I chose poor partners. That was my, it was my mistake. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. Uh, and, and I learned poor partners. That was my, it was my mistake. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. Uh, and, and I learned from that. And that was, you know, if I'd learned from the failure and so did Rota and I'm happy, Rota went, Oh, poor guy.

This is fucking great. We got all these bits and they never sent you a free one. Never sent me a free one. And there's still, they're all all they almost have it perfected if only they put a noise gate on the channel that comes in from the computer I'm just gonna keep saying until they do it otherwise it looks like a pretty decent device now this is a fix that will fix payments it's gonna fix a whole bunch of things. I figured it out. And it may give us an exit strategy.

And are you going to discuss this openly? Hell no. I'm not even going to tell you privately. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've learned. I've learned from my mistakes. But podcasting 2.0 is coming. I'm working on it.

Okay. We're all at pins and needles. Yeah. That's all the T's you get. The next T's you get will be a pew pew map. And indeed, Podcasting 2.0 has turned out to not be an exit strategy. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on'd be fun. It's been fun seeing all the new apps, but no exit. I'm still stunned that they haven't sent you a free road... A free road caster? Yeah, a road caster. They hate me. It's unbelievable. This is typical. And you know, they send them to YouTubers and all kinds of people all the time.

I'll bet you I could work one. I mean, think about this. They also have the road cast video, video caster. Yes, the latest. Yeah. I mean, they could be like, hey, you guys could do one video cast. Yes, the latest. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they could be like, hey, you guys could do one, one video episode and we would probably do it if we got some free gear out of it.

Yeah, that's the way you do it. We're horrors. We're not getting anything. No, it's amazing. I'm really baffled about that because the whole thing is ridiculous. They kind of took my idea. I don't want to blame it. I don't want to accuse them of anything.

Well, you can't. You know, I wouldn't. And I love that- So we have to- The worst thing is I love their product. I love the product I use. I have two of these. I bought two.

Yeah, and you're endorsing it, which really you shouldn't do. No, I gotta stop doing that. I gotta stop. Stop doing that. Yes. So we have to mention, this is the donation segment. The people that donate will get mentioned on the next show

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Well, unfortunately we do have an exit strategy and the exit strategy is we podcast until we die. That's the big exit. Bye everybody. I can't think of any other, any other exit strategy for us. It is overwhelming the evidence. If you don't believe in climate change, heat, please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you.

Wow! Come to California. We will re-educate you or Ultimately enlighten you as to the consequences of the earth and its temperatures Increasing in the consequences that are having in terms of droughts not just wildfires as well as floods Okay, I have an idea. This is easily executable and we have the producers. This is after all the best podcast in the universe. We have the producers to do this.

I would like a pre print study. That's what we get all the time and it's always, oh, that's not scientific. Doesn't matter in this case. A pre-print study that just has a whole bunch of word salad in there that shows that climate change and the increase in temperature is the direct cause of COVID. And let's just get it out there, see what happens.

I mean, we might as well show how good we are, you know, for the exit, for the exit strategy. It's just a thought. It's just a thought. We can do that. It's still very doable. Yeah, you know, put a couple of doctor names, affiliations, you know, and a statement of no conflict.

Ah, it's going to be fantastic. We should really consider that. We tried to get reports from, I think it was Gen Z for a while I just see the jet gen X. One of the gens and we we sent out the message We want reports on your sex life Oh, yeah Because there's a lot of kinky sex going on because these people they've learned about sex from porn really horrid porn Yeah, well, we started getting some reports in and the reports were so terrible

Yeah that we just discontinued project yeah that Another failed exit strategy from the curry devour at consulting group where we could not put together the the white paper I said well think of the good news. He says you're a dog walker They're gonna have to have professional dog walkers because it specifically says people who walk their dogs. They don't want people out of the house. So if this is true, then don't you have a 78% higher chance of contracting COVID, catching COVID if you just walk outside in general, even with a mask? I mean, I don't understand the logic of this. No, no, no, no, you're missing the whole point the nasty little COVID guys

they're floating around as an aerosol they land on the dog's fur and then you Britain then you walk the dog into the house and the dog is covered with these things oh man doggy shampoos like fleas doggy shampoo we got special COVID doggy shampoo there's all kinds of product opportunities. That's the money. By the way. We've got exit strategies right here. You nailed it.

Hi, I'm Adam Curry. I used to hate dogs. Until I found the love of my pooch with the new COVID shampoo. Only one end of show mix for today, everybody, will be the full Jeff Smith build back better song. It is up for sale for any globalist who would like to license it from the No Agenda Gitmo Nation Jeff Smith Publishing Company which now exists. It's our exit strategy. Oh, you imagine how much dough we could make if that thing became a hit worldwide.

The sink writes alone. Oh my God. There's your exit strategy everybody. Make sure you turn on your favorite globalist to this next song. In the EU, a fantastic, this could have been a in you as a consulting partner, founding consulting partner and probably very disappointed in our associates, known as producers of the show that no one came up with this. This must be really bad. You're scolding everybody.

97 year old Collette Dupa, a nursing home resident in Jumont, France, has been taking precautions against COVID-19. She's been limited to speaking with her family via video call or through a window, but now Dupas is able to feel their touch through plastic thanks to an inflatable tunnel known as the Hug Bubble. Baby, it even has one of our names, the Hug Bubble. This thing is fantastic. We could have manufactured them overnight.

DuPas daughters recently visited her, putting one arm through an airtight sealed plastic sleeve to reach their mother and stroke her hair. Stephanie Lazo is an assistant at the nursing home. It has brought comforts. Residents would see their relatives through a window or through a camera, and they were really missing having real contact, and they are getting a lot of love. Before Dupa's daughters left, they took turns kissing their mother on the cheek through the plastic. After guests leave, an employee disinfects the plastic sheet to prepare for another loving encounter in the hug bubble.

Do you see the problem? Do you see the problem? Hug bubble. It is disgusting. I mean, and it's all it is, is it's a bouncy house, a clear plat- without the colorful pieces, a bouncy house castle with two arms, and then your granny comes up you can stroke her hair with the plastic. It's beyond sad.

Ugh. Very very very upset we didn't come up with that. Damn it. And also got one of our producers saying, hey, I'm a dialysis technician. Urea is one of the waste products excreted in urine that we manually remove from people during dialysis. Your exit strategy is farming it from humans that are having it removed during dialysis. It gets a potassium and calcium to boot.

There you go. We could be selling. Yeah, we could be like another Dan Quayle. What? There you go. We could be selling. We could be like another Dan Quayle. What? Taking advantage of the, of this human systems. Oh my goodness. Well, I'll just go with aphids. There's another thing they like to eat. I'd like to turn, aphid. I'd like to turn that frown upside down and introduce to you a sure fire 100%. You hear how weak, how weak it is, how unprofessional, how it's just,

the messaging is all wrong. This is our exit strategy. We can, we can come up with tomorrow's caviar and it's cheap. It's cheap. We can have producers all over the world, all over Gitmo Nation, keeping bugs. Well, they'll be licensed. They'll be licensed affiliates.

We're franchising it. And there will be approved bugs, but we market it as tomorrow's caviar. Great in audio too. So, Howard, the problem with the tech grouch and actually the tech tech hippie too, is that I developed these voices for him and the tech grouch in particular was painful. Oh, it hurts your throat. Yeah.

And I tried to make adjustments. So I did. I need to go to a voice coach to do that voice correctly because I was doing it incorrectly And it would and I just wait wait was not you went to a voice coach. No. I said I need to go to a voice coach Just have them show me how to do that voice correctly without hurting my throat So all we need is like the tech grouch saying something like I was OTG before the Unabomber was in the woods something like that You know, I'll be good for the show. Yeah. Well, you can write the material if you want Will you perform most of that was ad-libbed?

You are so talented. Yeah, we could do that one of these days Yeah, we'll put it on the list of great projects exit exit strategies galore everybody great projects, exit strategies galore everybody. ITM, we had a great meetup in Pittsburgh yesterday. We met at a park with a fireplace that we use, but it was still pretty chilly out. After making cinnamon rolls and candied bacon to bring, I wanted to also have a healthier option. So I made deviled eggs,

but after 10 minutes in 20 degree weather, they froze into egg sickles. Sad, the more you know. Wait a minute. Stop. Stop. This is an exit strategy. Eggsicles. Are you kidding me? Eggsicles. You're going to kill him there. The more you know, she continues. The more you know, she continues. Eggsicles! And, thank you, I have a feeling that eggsicles, it could be a snack that children could just

get into around the world. Think about it. I mean, who doesn't love a deviled egg? Now, you could savor it for hours on end. I'm liking this. I'm holding on it. You've got karma. I don't think Tina would be very happy with this idea.

Which is, she is from California and probably she didn't do what I did which was take the course on sexual harassment, employee, how to hire, how to fire the thing that I was required to take and you never took at Mevio. I fast forwarded through it, yes. Yeah, you didn't take it. The fact, if you have this exemption in hand and you give it to your employer and they say,

they ask you one question. You can sue them. About your religion and then she says, well then you can go back and go talk to the, you can go back and talk to them, we can get you about your religion and then she says well then you can go back and go talk to the you can go back and talk to we can get you some more backup and then no no if they ask you one simple question you can sue them and she says well you know when I have a hassle with your employer the amount of money you can make from suing your employer in California for something as simple as them asking you about religion is millions of dollars.

John, stop! Stop! Hello, exit strategy! We just need to get employed somewhere. We need to sue each other. We've got to get employed. That's never going to happen. These are some of the press fights on employers.

But this is like, and this invites, another thing she overlooks again, even though she's from California, she obviously never took the training. No. She never did the work. Nope. And there will be what you experienced, which are the embedded scammers through state who get into a company just long enough to look at here, look left, look right and find out. Oh my goodness, yes. Remember that Kleiner Perkins? Yeah, find the open spot, the open sore and just go for the dough.

And they'll bring down tens of millions of dollars. There's so much opportunity here in California, she doesn't realize this when she says well we have to work you know that's bull crap. Wait, wait, wait, maybe that's because she wants you to come back to her and her lawyer pals because that's their gold mine. They're not charging anything for this, it's a value for value model. Yeah, but yes and the value is once you have a problem you come back to us and their gold mine. They're not charging anything for this. It's a value for value model. Yeah, but yes. And the value is once you have a problem, you come back to us and then we screw your. Yeah, I'm sure that's that's minor. And if you're the person, you were just informing

these everyone that if you have this opportunity. And I think that document, if you imagine it being signed and then notarized, with a notary stamp. It needs a raised seal. It would look pretty good. Yeah, a raised seal and everything. Yeah, it would look pretty good. And you take it in and say, OK, whatever. Most employees don't give a crap. We always joke about our exit strategy.

But I think there's one that may actually work for us, a real exit strategy. Are you ready for it? I'm all ears. This is the hot thing. This is what the it's so hot. All the kids are doing it. Even the NBA is doing it.

Have you heard of NFTs? It's the new hot thing. Lucky strike means fine tobacco? No, no, no. NFT stands for non-fungible token. No, NFT stands for non-fungible token. And this is being used with a digital media, either a piece of art or a piece of video. And this one image is marked and registered on a blockchain, which is finite.

So there can no, no, finite so that can know no extra Tokens can be included and I'll and I'll give you the example of the NBA the NBA. It's like trading. It's like trading cards and There's only one of each and your ownership of it is proven on the blockchain and These things are going for millions of dollars. It's the ultimate collectible. It is digital. You don't have to send anything and people pay you in, in cryptocurrency to have ownership of these tokens, of these, of these digital assets.

And this thing is huge. I hope it's as good as my one square inch of the moon that I own. It's very similar to that with the NBA is doing. So you can, you can buy them, but then you can also trade them. And so the value goes up and as people are trading these digital assets, um, the, uh, the NBA is making money off of the trading. And so I was thinking, what could we possibly do? And I came up with the following idea.

What if we had an NFT for the no agenda episodes and the initial price of each individual item would be complete ownership of an episode and episode one would go up for sale for $1. Episode 1325 would go up for sale for $1,325. Do you see the Ponzi building? Well, there's no Ponzi. Ponzi implies that you're shoveling what you make back into the deal. We're not, we're just taking it.

These things are crazy hot. Wasn't there something we were thinking of turning into a market? Well this is it. We could do jingles, we could do the artwork, we could be selling. By the time we're done, we'll be millionaires and we'll have nothing left. We'll have no ownership. Look them up. Okay.

How that would work. I'm identifying this as a huge deal. The NBA is doing it, so it's legal. Yeah. If the NBA is doing it, then you know everything's on the up and up. Yeah. I'm very excited about this. Very excited about this. Very excited about this. Whereas we thought Bitcoin was beanie babies, this NFT stuff, it's truly the analog.

It is the beanie babies of cryptocurrency and it's very scammy. And after some research, my initial thought was we really want nothing to do with this. And then I thought, wait a minute, what if all of the producers, what if we all got in on the scam, because you can program who gets what when you sell it, and we drive this thing up like crazy and sell it all to some suckers who think that this thing is hot, even though it's really just a complete pump and dump by the no agendination. It's like Like collusion full on insider trading. I mean, can we do this? Yeah, it's called conspiracy to commit a felony.

It's not a felony. What do you mean? It will be. No, we can get it under the wire if we do it now. You're no fun. You're no fun. I'm all game for this by the way. I'm not completely objecting to it.

So we've got to work it out a little bit, but you know, in You're no fun. You're game on. I'm all game for this by the way. I'm not completely objecting to it. Oh, okay. So we've got to work it out a little bit. But in essence, we just have to get people buying and selling this and tapping it up a little bit every single time until some sucker comes in. And we have to have trust in the group, right? You have to have trust that if someone buys something for 500 bucks, that there will be someone there who's going to buy it for 501 because that person will know. So we all have to have some kind of code so we can identify fellow travelers.

And the minute you're above, let's say $10,000. Sound like you're starting the communist party the way you're doing this. I'm sorry. I'm exit strategy. I need a vacation. No agenda art generator.com for all your NFT joy. Using that to mine Bitcoin and so that's changing. But I would like to go with this and I think we should look at everything in our green

economy. We should look at everything this way. How much electricity does it cost to do that? And you can shame people on that. And I think if you are a podcaster, and you are worried about how much electricity is being wasted, you need to make shorter podcasts, much much shorter. All podcasts for green energy should be no longer than 15 minutes really. You should have a green podcast. It should have a label. We should set up a...

Oh, exit strategy. Yeah. Oh my God. Green, green podcast. No, no, we need a word. Green podcast, seal of approval, podcast, kind of a podcast, green podcast certified. No, it has to be something better than that. Come on.

Brainstorm it. It wouldn't take us more than a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. It would take us a few minutes to do that. of approval, podcast, green podcast certified. No, it has to be something better than that. Come on, brainstorm.

It wouldn't take us more than a few minutes to dream something up that would work. And you being the inventor of the process and the promoter of Podcasting 2.0, you're in a perfect position to be part of this. Yes. What does LEED stand for? LEED is the certification, right?

What? LEED, L-E-E-D, that's the, that's the certification for buildings, leadership and energy in environmental design. LEED. That they have the certification. So maybe we should just make it P. PED. There you go.

No, that doesn't sound. That's it. Exactly. PED. Your, your podcast is P. That's it. Exactly. P-E-E-D. Your podcast is PED certified. Nice. Yeah. We need a logo.

It needs to look like the lead logo or it'll just say PED. No, it needs to look like that little kid that's on the back of vans that's peeing on something. Or like the little guy. There's your logo right there. We just licensed that. You too can have an official piss pod. I mean it just keeps writing itself, John. Oh yeah.

Okay, potential exit strategy, ladies and gentlemen. We have enough stuff to deal with. But if it's audio only, okay, then it makes it silly. There's one thing that I had to thought about. If someone hasn't already done this, you might want to consider it. Clubhouse, I mean, I've not been on there. I've seen plenty of videos. I'm not interested at all. Please don't-

How do you see videos if it's audio only? No, because they, people record it and then post their, the screen recording of their phone where you see the little icons light up when they're talking and they record it. That's how you record the clubhouse meeting. So it's a video of what people look at on their phone, which is just a screen filled with people on stage or not or in the audience. What I don't understand is why anyone is wasting any time on this. You need to go straight to corporate. This thing, this conference call app,

that's what it is, it's a conference call app, should be sold as a conference call app. It would revolutionize conference calls. Conference calls in business suck ass. The free numbers suck, they're horrible, they're no good. This is perfect. You can moderate, you can give someone the microphone, bring them up on stage, you can shut people down. This is a great product for business. For

people, it is destructive and stupid, just as a consumer app. Well, that sounds like an exit strategy. I didn't want to mention it. Move this baby over to business. That's what it is. We too can just license the Chinese back end technology. That's where they get it from. Yeah. All the Chinese will license to anybody, best price.

Best price. One of our dudes named Ben might want to help us along. Help us exit. Yes. We need a dude named Ben that can help us on this because we're too old. Speak for yourself, young man, time to exit. Time to exit. First of all, they did mention the forgery issue, which is something you should be concerned

about if you do, if you want to actually take this seriously, even though there's no reason to. Uh, and then you can have a discussion of that at the same time promoting somebody tweeting pictures of their card, which then can be extracted from the tweet or the Instagram post and you can cut and paste and create your own cards. Although as I, because I brought this up before on the show, somebody sent me a link. I think it was Wyoming's, I think it was the Wyoming State Health Department. They actually have the card online. Online printable.

If you're a doctor, you just go to this link and you download the card, print it on some card stock. John, John, you're pretty good with the GIMP. Exit strategy, baby. Making fake vaccination cards. We take Bitcoin. Now the question in my mind is if that's true, why does the testing have to involve going up the nose and down the throat when your mouth is obviously filled with COVID

viruses or you wouldn't need these rules? I'll make, I'll do you one better on this. And I'm very, very excited about this. NASCAR just announced at the Atlanta Motor Speedway, they will be using COVID detecting dogs. And I'm very excited because if this is true, okay, that's the topper if this is true You win the show then Then if this is true, then you can do they don't don't swab me. Just have your dog sniff me that happens at the airport

I'm okay In fact NASCAR went so far as to say in a bulletin sent to teams quote In fact, NASCAR went so far as to say, in a bulletin sent to Teams, quote, "'These dogs have shown to be as effective as PCR tests "'in identifying an infected person "'and are already being used by professional sports teams, "'hospitals, and many other businesses "'to screen employees and guests.'"

Well, this is fantastic. And it's an exit strategy. We have nothing but dog people listening to the show. We need to immediately go start training, certifying. Well, that brings up the question. And we have a distributed dog, COVID sniff, dog sniffing protection system. We can rent everybody's dog out. This brings it to the fore, which is how do you train a dog to do this? Well, we'll get, we'll get the D's.

You just don't tell the dog, Hey dog, while you're sniffing around, which you seem to be doing all day, it's all you do. Uh, can you, when you spot a COVID person, can you let us know? Let's see. We'll be working, who is the, oh, this is NASCAR. We'll be working with this 360K9 group, a provider of specialized detection dogs that serves industries ranging from the federal government, sports teams, cruise lines, hospital, and other large venues. So this is already rolling out, but it's not being talked about. They've worked with the USDA since 2013 to detect viruses implants with great operational success.

So I guess you just take an infected swab oozing with the COVID and say here, Fido, Sniffy. Their newest company, Bio Detection K9. Oh, that's a, that's a, that's a TV. There goes your exit strategy. These people are they dying to get the name. Bio Detection K9. Oh man. Yeah.

Shoot. Now, meanwhile, in America, mainstream media, and finally, if you like mac and cheese, you'll love this. Kraft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time. Yeah, baby. That's America. Foam finger number one. You rocking it.

Who wants to go into somebody's house that stinks of cheap, beyond cheap cheddar. This is a cheap scent. It's probably just chemicals that are they heat up and it makes it smell like a, like cheap cheese. Really? You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab. I'm like, wow, what is this crap?

Hey, add that. I have an idea. We'll turn it into scented candles. Hey, now exit strategy. There's a thought. What about actual mac and cheese candles? Out of real? Okay, maybe not.

It'll burn. Now, meanwhile, in America mainstream media. And finally, if you like mac and cheese, you'll love this. Kraft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time. Yeah baby, that's America. Foam finger number one. You're rocking it. Who wants to go into somebody's house that stinks of cheap, beyond cheap cheddar? This is a cheap scent. It's probably just chemicals that are they heat up and it

makes it smell like a like cheap cheese Really? You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab like what is this crap? Hey had that I Have an idea We'll turn it into scented candles She's hey Now exit strategy. There's a thought what about actual mac and cheese candles? How to read okay, maybe not burn strategy. There's a thought. What about actual mac and cheese candles? I don't really. Okay. Maybe not. Burn the FTC. And if somebody, uh, some of the group was during the Obama administration made a huge fuss about

people on Twitter in specifically pretending to like something because they got paid to pretend to like it. Right. And they were supposed to, now they had to be disclosed. You had to disclose doing this. Yeah. That's what I thought. Well, I don't see any disclosures going on on tick tock that woman's little bust out there, which I thought was admirable on her part. Uh, I would say indicates that there's a bunch of people that you see them going, Oh, showing up, taking the vaccine and then getting paid.

This is against the law. That's what I was thinking. That's not the way it's supposed to work. Where's the enforcement? You know, one of my pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet pet We need to follow the rules. Well, it's a law. It's not a rule. It's a law and it's being broken left and right and nobody's doing anything about it. They should be arresting people left and right and throwing them in jail. That's what I think.

The United States Center for Disease Control and Prevention has reached an agreement with popular video game deals Twitter account Wario64. Yes, Wario64. Yes, Wario64 has about 900,000 followers on Twitter and they've come to an agreement so that the Twitter account, not saying that's a person, a company, just the Twitter account, Wario64 will now be paid to announce COVID-19 vaccine availability nationwide. I mean, these are good little deals you can get from the government today. Shit, man. Exit strategy. We'll just reverse everything, take some dough,

tell everyone vaccines are great, and then we'll split it all, we'll make everybody whole on the back end. Yeah, exactly. As we exit. Bye. But those are customers and you have to pay for the system. And so Apple communicates with them. And I got an email, Hey podcaster, we're going to tell you about this new stuff. And it's probably going customer. Who is not a customer of Apple is these app developers. They don't pay Apple to use their API. It was just an accident that it was available. And so within Apple, when these changes occurred, there was no one representing app developers who were sucking off this index. And so they weren't considered and it just got turned off overnight.

It's just, it's a complete mess and they're not going to try and fix that. So with some from the future foresight, this podcast index.org turns out to be a lifesaver. I mean, we've like big shows are just gone, not available on any app anywhere. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Well, you lucked out. What do you mean, lucked out? You got the index there for people to fall back on.

It's not like anyone's paying us for this. I'm just saying, podcasting lucked out. That's what happened. Well, they're not paying you, but eventually you're going to monetize this thing and screw them just like Apple did. Shhh. Exit strategy. I think you planned this. Well, since you just exposed my exit strategy, I'm cutting you out of the deal, Dvorak.

And this is, this is, I feel very, very bad because this is going to, this is exactly what the World Economic Forum has predicted. You're not going to own anything slave, not because you don't want to, because you can't. People are talking about prices doubling in the next year. Doubling. What is going on? What is going on? Well, these things blow up, of course, because these ideas aren't perpetual. Right.

But that'll cause a huge crash if that happens, won't it? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Maybe you should just sit tight and make even more money when you sell the house, if you can. Because then again, there's always the up, there's a collapse.

That's what I'm saying. Eventually, there's gotta be a collapse. Who knew that my exit strategy would be the house? Most people's exit strategy is the house. Yeah. That's why it's a shame is the house. Yeah. That's why it's a shame that the millennials haven't been able to get in on this. Yeah, the property ladder is important. Like symptoms, and that was conflated with the COVID numbers.

Yeah, I think, you know what bothers me, and it's a problem that you and I have with this particular show. A year ago, we pretty much had already figured most of these things out. We figured out the droplets, we had the numbers, we saw the flu cases were gone long before that was recognized. We looked at the true data, we saw the bait and switch charts and graphs that they kept pulling up. I think Osterholm still thinks we're going to die next week.

And, you know, the gain of function research, all of this stuff, all of this stuff we have talked about. And, of course, branded by many as COVID deniers and nut jobs. Conspiracy theorists. Yes, and then it comes out out what we're doing is playing clips I might add Adam Curry's a nut job and the only by the way I think you should sue him for not actually being a nut job I'm not gonna think it was libelous what he said oh Oh, interesting. Exit strategy, talk to an attorney about the exit strategy. Anybody John and I, yes.

I'm talking to the trolls. No, we had an idea, uh, to really do a morning zoo type episode of a show. Yeah. And, uh, and we were talking about this after, after the last show, actually, and that we've already put together the cast. We're missing one important member. So to review for a morning zoo show. Now are you going to be my sidekick or am I your sidekick?

It doesn't matter much to me. Well I'm thinking about producing the thing and making Darren O'Neill your sidekick. Oh yeah! That's all he has to say, by the way. Oh, yeah. And everybody is wagging. It's in the morning. Every morning. And then he can he can do.

Yes. OK, I think that's so you're the producer. You're your coach, coach John. You got to have a name., you gotta have a zoo name. You can't, you can't. Ta-da-da-da. Yeah, you can't just be John C. Dvorak. So you're coach John. No, I had to ask him to serve MK Ultra John or something.

No. DJ MK. I don't know, we'll come up with it. That's the least of our problems. Our real problem is what we're going to discuss right now. Yes. Okay. So, so here's the crew, because you need a crew for the morning zoo. So we got me, we got Darren, we got coach JCD, known as the widowmaker. Then we figured we need to have the now we need a woman who also who is there and does stuff like oh Adam and

And she also reads the news and that that is obviously Dame Jennifer and she says snide things besides just oh Adam Give me an example of something snide. Well, in other words if there be some moment where there's something that can be a double entendre She's the one who introduces where there's something that can be a double entendre, she's the one who introduces the she says. Right, right, right, right. That's what she said would come from her. Yes, yes. This is gonna be legendary.

Now, then we needed, actually, we wanted, well, you can't be coached, we need to coach for sports. And in sports, when it comes to morning zoo format, you want a guy who is familiar with sports but can also be the community affairs director. And we'll call him coach and has to be a black guy. And since we only know one black guy, it's got to be Mo. Yeah, Mo Fax. He's perfect.

And he's a sports guy. He's a sports guy so we can do it. And then the final thing is where we're stuck. We're stuck. And that is the sport, the entertainment reporter that has to be a gay guy and has to sound like a gay guy. We talked about this and we decided because of today's, today's market, you can't have a guy who sounds gay.

We have to have a genuine gay person. You've got to have a gay guy, yes. But he has to also sound gay, which is a stereotype mostly found on the West Coast. It's a West Coast gay because everyone in the rest of the country, they bitch. I've listened enough talk shows and podcasts where the gays get together and complain about this accent that the West Coast guys have. And it's the Hollywood gay bull crap, phony baloney gay-ish sound. But, but, so we have requirements, you have to sound gay, but you also have to be gay. Yeah, you have to be gay. Otherwise, and we were taking auditions.

So, um, yeah, I was supposed to have a script ready. I won't have it ready prior until the Thursday show. Hey, cause we want everyone to read it from the same script. I'm going to hound you. I'm going to hound you over this. And we need to get that. You can definitely get it written. We need to get that script up and running.

Yeah. We'll have a, so they have to do this and they have to do it in their best, the manner, best man get this, you know, it's a, we were up for Yeah We'll have a so they have to do this and they have to do it in their best Manner best man get this, you know, it said we were up for criticism for even bringing this kind of thing up Well, what's interesting is I'm already seeing but if anybody wants to audition Yeah and just so you know the reason why ours our entertainment reporter has to has to be gay because that's the rules in Hollywood in Case you hadn't noticed You can't play someone

on the spectrum unless you're on the spectrum. Everyone knows this now. So we're just following the rules, man, every day, all day, without exception. Yeah, if you watch any of these shows, but the reason that this formula comes to mind is because this is, if anyone has a morning zoo show in their neighborhood, you'll notice that this is pretty much the model that everyone uses

because it works. Because it's so exciting and fun to listen to. I don't know if it's still working that well. And there's a lot of banter between the two hosts and the gay Hollywood guy. Oh yeah, totally. Yeah. And then, and that's when Jennifer jumps in and says, that's what she said. You know, that's just in there. We're talking to the, to the entertainment guy and then Dame Jennifer comes in with that it's going to be beautiful. It will be a piece of legendary.

We're doing a pilot. We're doing a pilot. Yeah. Half hour pilot. Half hour. Oh my God. Okay. We're doing a pilot. Yeah My god Okay, we're doing a half-hour pilot who's writing this pilot because it can't be well I'll be doing a lot of the writing but most of it's just gonna be ad-libs obviously cuz you're doing a morning

Show we I Would I think a lot of these shows have some music? No, they have all kinds of music beds running underneath when they're talking. There's all kinds of stuff. Yeah, we can do that. So it'll be good. I'm very excited about this. We might get work.

This is our final exit strategy. It's on you, anonymous gay guy out there who's going to save us. And these drivers, they go out and it's every night. It's all over Austin. They're parking, they're driving, they're comparing their systems and the base is reverberates for miles. And you know, I was just as you're describing this, they have those in California, parts of California too.

I mean, that's not where that's one of the reasons we're moving. But how about this for an exit strategy? Ooh, ooh, another one. You produce some tapes or CDs, in the case of Depends on the Gear, and you find these guys. There's a bunch of them. There's hundreds of them that have these systems. And you have them play these things

through neighborhoods, which are announcements. Attention citizens. And it would be like, it would be like those old, remember those in the movies, you see the car going down with the big bull horns on its roof? Yes. And they would be, ah, today there's a sale on it, Rayleigh's, uh, Susparagus is 99 cents a pound. So we're going to, uh, we're going to become, uh, sellers of advertising space in this medium. Is that your idea?

No one else is doing it. Okay, I'll take it into consideration. I mean, I don't know. Well, you know, talk about did no sound effects Where was the horse where was the horse was it a farm horse a Dre horse was it a racing horse? What kind of horse? Stay safe. That's how you do a report. That's NPR. Why don't, why don't people, whatever happened to people going in to the TV studio and hijacking it.

Where are those good old days? I think they put in countermeasures. So you can't really do it too bad. Cause those days were fun. You know, and we could go into this NPR station and take over to get out of the way, lady, you're boring and killing us with that. Nobody listens. So what good is it going to do?

There's that. Okay, okay, I'm just trying to think of exit strategies. That's a big... Is that the way they're pushing it? Yeah, yeah, permitless. Yes, permitless carry. Out here we read that now you don't need a permit or training, just buy a gun just everywhere. That's correct.

There's a vending machine, you can pick up a Ruger. Oh my God, great idea. I think I will get one going. That would be a great business. Just have a Ruger vending machine on the street. I think so too. At the airport, on your way out though, of course. At the airport, perfect.

You know, you can get the iPod, you can get a extra battery pack and a blow up pillow, and there's a Ruger. And here's a nine mil, it's perfect. That's a good idea. All right. Another exit strategy is in the works. We may not even return Thursday. Right place at right time. Yeah. Yeah. What are we doing wrong, bro? What are we doing wrong, John? Everything we do is wrong. All right. Well, here's my exit strategy, my personal exit strategy. I was so happy to hear a US Senator speak in these terms.

It is US Senator Loomis. Who is Loomis? L-U-M-M-I-S. Is she a newbie? She's one of the, I think she's one of the radical Republicans. Radical Republicans? I think. I don't know. I just, nevermind what? I think. I don't know.

Never mind what I just said. I don't know what I'm talking about. It could be. It could be. I'm just curious. I've heard her name. I think it's a woman. Yes.

She's new. Cynthia Marie Lumis. I think she's one of the new Trumpers. I think she's a Trumpista. Oh, wait. Now she has a full name. She's Cynthia Marie Lumis Viderspan. Oh.

Then I don't know her. Stay safe. Is an American politician and attorney serving as the junior United States Senator from Wyoming. Ah, yes. She's the first woman to represent Wyoming in Senate. A member of the Republican Party, she served as the U.S. representative for Wyoming at a large congressional district from 2009 to 2017. Okay.

She's all in on the Bitcoin, not just for herself, but also for the state of Wyoming. I like this report. Senator Cynthia Lemmis of Wyoming is the founder of the Financial Innovation Caucus in Congress. She's been a major advocate for cryptocurrencies on Capitol Hill. And I sat down with her for CNBC's Financial Adviser Summit. And she told me she envisions Bitcoin in particular becoming an important component of individual retirement portfolios. She believes it can serve as a hedge against inflation as the size of the nation's debt

relative to GDP hits historic highs. I encourage people to buy and hold. I encourage them to save Bitcoin for their retirement, for their future. And that's because as the Congress spends trillions and trillions of dollars and is flooding our economy and the world economy with US dollars, there's no way that we cannot debase the value of the US dollars. And Lemma's practices, which she preaches, she's an investor in Bitcoin as well. I buy Bitcoin and I hold Bitcoin.

You buy Bitcoin? Oh, yes. You have Bitcoin? I do. I buy Bitcoin and I hold Bitcoin. You buy Bitcoin? Oh, yes. You have Bitcoin? I do. How much Bitcoin do you have? Well, I only have, I think, five Bitcoins. So only five Bitcoin, but she bought them in 2013 for about $300 each. So she can now add a couple of zeros to that number.

And Wyoming is in the process of setting up its own crypto banking system that Lumos hopes will become a model for other states as well. So we have El Salvador, Mexico, Mexican banks now starting, Paraguay, and now the state of Wyoming with their own. I don't know what's wrong with gold, but okay. Nothing's wrong with gold. I don't think people are against gold at all. But okay.

No, no, no, it seems like they are. No, the only thing different between Bitcoin and gold is it's a lot easier to pay with. Can I have the antibodies test? So I'm negative for COVID, negative for antibodies. And she told me, she said, there's actually evidence, and she's a nurse in hospitals as well, that babies that drank breast milk from mothers who had antibodies had antibodies. And I'm thinking exit strategy product. Seriously, I mean, it's made by nature. It's tasty.

Well, if you listen to what you just heard, because that was now again, what you just heard was someone got the vaccination. Right. And it was the spike proteins that got into the milk. Yes, I know. I'm just saying that was an interesting side note. But this is this. So what she's taught, what she discussed earlier was the so-called self-spreading vaccines.

We've talked about that. At least we've seen it. I think we talked about it briefly. And that would be through the use of these exosomes. Nice. I recently supported a SPAC, a SPAC white paper, 250 listed SPACs from 2018 to 2021 for my firm. I believe things are developing with the SEC intervention slash adaption to allow SPACs to become more typical, a more typical vehicle

for public listing. Any input from John? Well, I, I think you're probably right. Can you please send me the list? Yeah. John's like, I want to invest. I mean, you got, I mean, I want you to send me a note. John at dvorak.org.

And I wanted, cause I think there's some SPAC opportunities that are, cause when these things take off, I mean, it's, you're talking about one week 10 bagger, it's like ludicrous investment. Um, so yes, like $10,000. 10 bagger means 10 X. Wow.

Exit strategy. Bring on the specs. And you know, speaking of exit strategy, one presented itself to us just out of the blue. Yeah, there's a whole Twitter thread. This one person's like, Hey, I really like the No Agenda show. I'm trying to figure out the lingo and Tina, the keeper jumped in, you know, people explaining what certain things, certain things meant.

But then I got this tweet. I haven't, I haven't replied to it yet. Please excuse the noob question, but what is the No Agenda Zephyr Economic Indicator? I've searched on TradingView, but I can find nothing of the sort. TradingView is a charting program where you can do technical analysis. I was thinking we should have Horowitz make one of those indicators. It's just a little code that would be the no agenda Zephyr economic indicator.

People subscribe to those indicators, like 20 bucks a month. Yeah, they do, they do. Just a thought. I don't know if that's an exit strategy, but it's a good idea. I just thought I'd bring it up. I like the idea myself.

That is why there is so much fear in the country about what this means for Roe because it didn't stop Texas and the idea of pitting neighbors against each other, colleagues snitching on each other because someone is desperately trying to potentially desperately trying to safeguard their health in the health and perhaps the health of their their unborn child this is just wow you got it all right all right all right you need to you need to bend over because this is well deserved that was a great flip great catch damn skippy so you're trying to protect the health of your unborn baby by killing it.

Wow. I would like to reiterate this point that I am completely okay with abortions as long as we are also, and we get the television rights, able to show capital punishment executions live on television. I think that is a fair trade-off. Death for death, we want the rights to produce. Yeah, that's the exit strategy that make us multimillionaires, but unfortunately, it's never going to happen.

It's not going to happen. Oh my God. By the way, the most dangerous bike I ever drove was a Honda 50. It doesn't go, it doesn't stop. It just doesn't go, it doesn't stop. It just doesn't go, doesn't stop. So you get it going, you finally gets up to some speed, you can't stop the damn thing. That is a death trap. I'm glad they took them off the market.

My last ride was a motocross. It was a celebrity ride and I had always ridden like 125, maybe a 250. They gave me a KTM 450 and I went up on the like the table jump and I landed and somehow my wrist just kind of went down and The bike shot off and I landed flat on my back and that was it I couldn't I couldn't poop straight for a year after that. When we're doing this show when that happened? I have no idea. It's a horrible story. Well, let's start off with our

donations. Yes. Instead of our tales of woe. Tales of old dudes and bikes. Hey, that's another exit strategy. I hear that car talk is gone so it can be old dudes with bike talk. Yeah. What do you need a special bottle for? If you can't get your special bottles, why don't you get the 750s that are very common and available and use those instead of the funny-shaped 750 that you obviously have custom-made because you can't get them for some unknown reason. It doesn't make any sense, this story. Nothing's going to die in the vats. Well, I actually had a thought about this.

How about jugging the wine up if you're going to worry about it? No, you're close. You're close. I'm thinking, stay with me, because we are uniquely positioned for this. This is an exit strategy. No agenda, box wine. Think about it. Well, I mean, I'm game for no agenda box wine,

except for there's a couple problems one Most of these places have bottling facilities on site the bottling facility to make boxed wines is Specialized equipment that would cost more than it's worth really I thought well Then why do they even put it in boxes if it's so expensive? So I've Francia and those guys who make the boxed wine, they're the inventors of it pretty much, or Francia, I think it's a European company. That's what they have.

They have this specialized equipment that makes boxed wines. We can't just order from them a whole bunch of boxes? You'd have to get the wine to them and they'd have to job it to you. Well, this doesn't sound... I don't think it would be... I mean, there are other people making boxed wines. I've noticed them, you know, these different kinds of generic boxed wines. At Target has a bunch of crazy labeled brand labels. Right. This is where we should be in Target. We should be in Target with a dynamite packaging and it should be like, you

know, it should be an Easter egg where people are like, dude, have you tried the new No Agenda box wine? It's like, that's just really good. Yeah. John C. DeVorek renowned. That would actually say this. I have had good boxed wines. It's always French.

How about no agenda? So you could, there, there is a possibility of making boxed wine. That's quality wine in the United States. I've just never had it. Right. I'm just thinking ahead, you know, for when we're 80. Well? You know, we could have a whole line. I'm game for this. I'm game to build out a boxed wine company. Yes. No agenda woke wine would be one.

Woke wine. Let's call it that. Well, I think we want to have some other sub labels perhaps. Woke. Woke. Yeah, just a big… The wine for you. Big black letters. Woke.

It's the wine for the progressive liver. Yeah. Something like that. And actually progressive, like, progressives, believe it or not, are the ones who drink a lot of the boxed wines because they don't know any better and they put it in the refrigerator. That's what's cool about it, especially the whites. You go and the box goes in the refrigerator and you go and would you like a glass of wine, honey?

And you go open the refrigerator door and you squirt out some of the boxed wine into a glass and you bring it out. Just some chard for you. And I say, and a ch out just some shard for you and I think shard some shard for you shard or a sort of Pinot Grigio you know shard by the way we had a guy at time I gotta get this winemakers name the guy was up at the way wait woke wine it's the wine for the progressive generation come on man I'm feeling it I I'm in. Shard for you. I mean, there's shard.

It's never ending. It would say that on the side of the label. Shard. Shard. Shard. Yeah. CAB would be the other one. Shard.

Shard and cab. I'm so happy I got you excited. I thought I was not going to Merlot. No. How about that? Merlot. No. Yes. I know. And think about the fantastic art we could have. And, you know, so and, and, and by the way, we'll put lost dogs on our carton or something. We got to bring in more of these great elements. And we're going to have like the lost dog. Yeah.

It would be huge. The idea of a big black cube though, just as the art for woke something, but a, a, just a black cube with the word cab on the side and huge letters. I'd like, uh, Franklin either. No, it wouldn't be Franklin gothic. You'd want some Sarah font, but you just have it on there. It'd be super bold, super heavy. Yeah.

I'm, I'm so I'm so well, shit, man. Someone already has woke wine.com. What the hell? Whoa. No, no, there goes our exit strategy. No, it's, it's still available. You can buy it for three and a half thousand dollars Oh, you can lease to own did you read you can lease a domain name?

Only two hundred ninety two dollars a month. How much 292 a month? It's leased to own least to own about woke dot wine I think there's a dot wine. I Think this is I think we have we have a product here, everyone can chip in, everyone can work about it and work on it. And maybe they can chip in, chip in. Yes. Chip in. Maybe we probably have a producer that listens to a show that knows all about boxed wines, probably works for one of the big wine boxing companies.

Oh, and by the way, small batch. Oh yeah. Small batch. Artisan. Artisan boxed wine. There you go. We are artisan and we need people, patrols are already offering to invest in this project. Yeah. No, I know. This could be dynamite. We could do one of those public, one of those, there's a type of investment you can do that is where people, breweries do it constantly. Yes, I'm familiar with this. And you get this straight money in there, boom, next thing you know we're the boxed

wine guys. Yep. Right, who's going to run it? Who's going to run the business? Oh, we have to hire somebody. Yeah, I know. Anyone we know, we're just going to do auditions, we're going to run it? Who's going to run the business? Oh, we have to hire somebody. Anyone we know, we're going to do auditions, we're going to do job interviews. Auditions, that's a funny way to put it. Isn't that what it is? Yeah, kind of. I think we should put it on the burner.

It's on the burner, ladies and gentlemen. It is on the burner, the woke wine. But this is the one that has everybody really worried. And this comes from The Guardian, just as reliable as the Daily Mail. Fox News, check it out, is about to launch a 24-hour weather channel. And this has climate crisis researchers worried about the channel's reach to perpetuate misinformation

and advance political goals through the weather. This is so obvious. I'm pissed at us. I'm pissed at ourselves for not seeing this obvious exit strategy. Yeah, start a weather channel that debunks climate change nonsense. What were we thinking? We weren't. We weren't.

Fox Weather, Fox Weather everybody, with Shep Smith, bring him back, a 24-hour channel devoted to all things meteorological, promises cutting edge display technology, forecasting experts surrounding every major weather event. And I bet there'll be panel discussions. Boots on the ground. I want to work for this outfit. That looks like fun. Let's bring in our panel. We'll talk about the weather. Let's bring in our panel. We'll talk about the weather. The wine box, the woke box with the 14 years we felt wouldn't connect. It's too early in the exit strategy. We haven't positioned it yet. By the way, in the show notes today, One of our, Mark Dant, I think you're on the email. He did two product shots of the No Agenda box wine

known as woke wine. Yeah, woke wine. Oh my God. It's so beautiful what he's done. It's bored B-O-R-D for you and shard for you. I mean, this product is real. All we need is some hooch to put in it and we can sell. There are a bunch of private labelers that maybe can do the job for us.

We need someone to step in because this is big. You know, there's an Austin box wine company that's doing up upscale box wines. Who knew? Yeah. Well, this is the thing you have to do. It has to be upscale. Cause that's the key. Yeah. The question is, do we spell wine with an H or not? No. Well, he's not, yes, I don't think that was his goal. It was the trumpet, the greatness of diversity.

All right, let's back it up a little and continue. That's theater owners and producers and the Actors Union co-signed a 17-page diversity pledge with a group of artists called Black Theatre United. They've agreed to set up trainings and mentorship programs, and they'll make sure that creative teams aren't all white. And that's something that the Dramatist Guild, which represents playwrights, composers, and lyricists, have done as well.

They've added an inclusion rider to their contracts. And then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition. It just wanted... Wait, what did he just say there? Hold on. All white. And that's something that the Dramatist Guild, which represents playwrights, composers and lyricists, have done as well. They've added an inclusion rider to their contracts. And then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition. It just won a special Tony Award.

Joni. That's working with some current Broadway shows, The Lion King, Company, Athena. Jalien Livingston is a member of the group and he says he hopes the training sticks. Oh man, this is depressing. I'd like me a musical. Was that four? That was two, three I think. Yeah, you got two more.

It's worth it. It's worth it. I'm kind of digging this nut. Here we go. Let's go to Woke Broadway number four. Exit strategy. Exit strategy. It's worth it. I'm kind of digging this nut. Hey, we go. Let's go exit strategy I said strategy for exit strategy the woke Awards. What do you think? Oh, yeah Yeah, the woke Awards nice. Yeah had Freddie Mac Fannie Mae now, Nicky Mac. They are collateralizing debt Does it sound anything like?

2008 2009 where we're going to have all of this stuff built into these bonds and that's where the money is. It's trading these bonds as expertly explained by Alison McDowell. So this idea of a social impact bond is essentially re-imagining our lives and social relationships as future debt projections, whether that's being educated, whether that is health care, whether that is housing, access or subsidies, food subsidies, being involved in the judicial system. All of these have numbers attached to them. And then they say, well, if we can provide an evidence-based, what works intervention,

we will pay this much money, which is a smaller amount than we would pay if all these bad things happen to you and we would have to pay a lot more to fix you after the fact. We'll just preemptively fix you. Only the problem is, it's essentially pre-crime. Now the problem is that the terms of these agreements, which are essentially privatizing government services, privatizing services that the government should just be de facto providing, but then the government through austerity says we can't provide it unless we can be assured that it works.

And so they outsource it to these nonprofits, some of whom are faith-based nonprofits to do these social welfare services under conditions of a performance-based contract. The profit isn't in the tiny slice of return on investment. It is actually in the fact that they're going to securitize all the debt and that hedge funds are going to trade off of that debt. The game can't go unless you have the structure. They can't run the bets unless the game goes on. So they have to build the game. And that game is being built right now. They need all of the data to slosh around in a big pool because they can't justify taking profit off the fact

that you didn't become addicted if they can't track that against some intervention they put you on in middle school. All of that data has to interlock and that's what's going to come with digital identity. And that digital identity system is something that the World Wide Web Consortium has been working on for like 15 years.

And I had thought it was going to come through education transcript records, but clearly now it seems like the much bigger plan is to have it come through these medical passport protocols. And there you go. Oh, Utah ahead of the game. That was a pretty funny roundabout way to get to the end. Now, and it was good. So you brought up the 2008 debacle.

So what we have to do is figure out what is the equivalent of a credit default swap. What's the short? No, it's the credit default swaps. Because it wasn't shorted, it was they just went under and you couldn't short those things. You just picked up the insurance. This is our massive exit strategy.

Is that what I'm hearing the plotting over as we speak? Beyond an exit strategy, this would be a massive amount of wealth that we just have in our lives. The whole no agenda, Gitmo Nation could exit. Oh yeah, we could pay everyone off. We could all exit. Excellent. Now, there's something that you need to know, which may offer an opportunity for an exit

strategy. I know you're interested. I am. Dame Angela from Vegas contacted me and she says, Adam, things are going so well. I know she has a production company and she's just, Vegas had the biggest revenue month last month of all time, not pre COVID of all time. He says the master mandate is pretty much gone. All the, all the plexiglass that was separating all the players is gone and everyone, you

know, Adele is now performing, is getting ready to perform with the residency. So Vegas is back. She's got business. She says, I need to do something. So Vegas is back. She's got business. She says, I need to do something. And she is going to create, and she has the chops for it, a documentary about Gitmo Nation, the producers specifically, and Value for Value. And she's going to set up a website and people can talk about the value that they receive from No Agenda, from No Agenda Nation, the value they've given back, really about the value that they received from No Agenda, from No Agenda Nation, the value they've given back, really about the value for value aspect.

And she's going to go to meetups and she's going to, and she wants of course interview you and interview me. And then it hit me, John. Wow. And I said, well, first of all, how can we help? Well, interviews would be great and promote it on the show. Of course, no problem. How are you gonna make money?

How are you gonna fund it? She says, well, it has to be value for value. Okay. So she understands how to do that. And then I thought, holy crap, this is it. If there's one project that Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak can pull off for an exit strategy with a companion documentary, it is the value for value book. Throw out the Pepper book, throw out the Vinegar book,

this is the book. We could do this and it would be a classic for times. It could usher in a new economic structure. What Pepper book? I'm just making it up. Well, the- A real book, not a giblet, a real book. We both have to write it. I can tell you being in the book business at times, books are one-shots. They go out, they come out and then they die. They're not sustaining unless you set up a seminar system

where every month you have to go on the road and you go to some location and you talk to either free seminars or if you want to scam them into buying an upgrade or some cheap $100 deal where you get maybe 100 people. And you do that time and time again and then you sell the book at the end of the seminar and you, it's, it's a dead end. Sorry. Okay. Well, I can't write the book myself. You can't make some money from a book and it would be a good book to do.

And it's probably something that should be done. And you can make some money from seminars too, but you know, it's a dead end and it's probably something that should be done. And you can make some money from seminars too. But, you know, it's a dead end. And it's a grind. It's the worst grind that we're doing. Well, that's no exit strategy then. Not if it's a grind. I thought it could be a fun book though. It could be a useful book.

We could finally help people get out of the pricing mechanism of Silicon Valley. Do it for the children. I agree. We should do the book anyway. Ah, okay. Now you're talking. Let's it for the children. I agree. We should do the book anyway. Ah, okay. Now you're talking. Let's just do the book. Let's, you know, we can maybe we set up a Zoom masterclass. We just do the book.

Okay. We'll do the book. So I'm sure that we have pig farmers. We got hog farmers amongst our producers. Let's get the inside dope, yo, on the pig farmers. We got hog farmers amongst our producers. Let's get the inside dopio on the pig piss. You know, the idea that somebody said they're burning pig urine out of the blue, which is what triggered my thinking here. Yeah. This stuff doesn't come out of nowhere. No, the troll room blew up the minute I brought it up. They're like, oh, pig piss, pig piss. And I didn't know. And then I'm reading this article and it says it right there. It said, this is actually it said something a little different, didn't know and then I'm reading this article and it says it right there. It said

This is actually it said something a little different didn't it? Didn't say this is not true. It said What is it pig urine this is too funny Here it is you may have seen rumors Rumors, that's you trolls that it contains pig urine, but that is factually incorrect No, it's true. It's factually incorrect because it's not exactly Say exactly Yeah, it's treated is you it's treated pig. It's past your eyes reading to make urea

Pasteurized pig piss. There we go. It's pasteurized. And homogenized for your. Now, can we not, can we not create this urea with this or this not this, it's two different things. The urea is not the same as the PPP. Well PPP. Yeah, the pasteurized clothing. What are you talking about? Pasteurized pig piss. PPP. Oh, the P3. The P3. I think that that's a rise pig piss PPP of the T-3 pig piss He three think that could become a drink with the water buffalo. Oh my god PPP with alcohol. It's the new white claw exit strategy. Hello. Yeah If you make a cool can and you put on that can pig piss, it will sell like crazy. It will sell like crazy.

Especially in the frat houses of Stanford. Our fraud, waste and abuse inspector checked in with me. As you know, she's out there identifying fraud, waste and abuse in everywhere she can within the medical sector. And sent me a screenshot of the Texas Human and Health Services internal email. Listen to this. Second round of grant funding available through the Texas Vaccine Outreach and Education Program. This is an exit strategy for us if we weren't the way we are. The Texas Department of State and Health Services is in partnership with Texas A&M Health, announced

the opening of the second round of funding for the Texas Vaccine Outreach and Education Grant Program. In this round, organizations can apply for grants to engage in vaccine education and outreach with the goal of increasing the number of fully vaccinated Texans against COVID-19. Now this is an interesting thing to get one of these grants. Do you know what these grants range from? I'm holding onto my seat.

From $50,000 to $1 million. So to be a promotional operation, you can get a million dollars to tell people to get vaxed. ...side of this coin that is starting to make the virus look a little bit more endemic. Now this might make some people think, well, sounds like I'm going to get it and it could boost my immunity without a lot of risk, so why not just get it over with? But Camille and others say, don't even think about it. Vaccinated and boosted, even if Omicron is milder,

it still can be really nasty, even deadly. Don't forget about long COVID. Omicron is going to inflict enough carnage and many scientists caution it's way too early to conclude with any certainty that we'll be on the right road after Omicron. OK, exit strategy idea. We need some kind of box that you can hook up to, you know, your speakers and whenever some messaging is coming through like that, it puts that echo on automatically. That was really beautiful because that's exactly what it's intended for. You will obey. Yeah, that's great. Good one. Good sweetening job.

Some of the activities. It was addressed by a child a couple months ago that they are put in an environment where there are kids that identify as a furry, a cat or a dog, whatever. And so yesterday I heard that at least one of our schools in our town has in one of the unisex bathrooms a litter box for the kids that identify as cats. And I am really disturbed by that. And I will do some more investigation on that. I know what's going on nationwide. I know it is. It's part of the agenda that's being pushed.

I don't even want to understand it. But I think that people need to be aware of it because I am really upset as a parent that my child is put in an environment like that. And, you know, I'm all for creativity and imagination. But when someone lives in a fantasy world and expects other people to go along with it, I have a problem with that. Dude, that's a great clip. This is so, I mean we have furries who are producers of the show. We got no problem with that. Sure.

We love your furries. We got our trans women. We got everything. Do they expect one of the kids to be pooping in that thing? Well, I'm thinking this may be a potential exit strategy. We can have kitty litter, you know, approved. For people. For furries. We can have a kitty litter, you know, approve. For people.

For furries. Furry litter, which will be approved for children. We'll have it all organically tested, make sure no one's allergic to it. And we can actually have a contract. EU standards. EU standards of kitty litter. Yeah, I'm kind of digging this, but I can see where the parents might be concerned. Might have some issue.

Oh, oh my goodness. Life is great. It's your podcast. You put it together. You should be very proud of it. You'd be very proud that we still can go on our merry way and continue because we are not cancelable through advertising, corporate money, et cetera. We're not financially cancelable.

The only way we can go away is either you stop supporting us or we find the real exit strategy. I'm still looking for that one. I think we should revisit the human furry kitty litter. Yeah, I think that idea came and went. I think we're gonna go back to what you said at the end of that last clip, which is we had to revisit exit strategies in general.

Make it another show out of it. Yes. Someone's- That was very, by the way, that was very entertaining. You are correct. Yes, Sir Comference, John Jensen, thank you so much. We really appreciate that you put that together. And again, we have Sir Deanonymous with the No Agenda Search.

It's bingit.io. It's clipgenie.com if you want it for your own podcast. Go check that out. And we will continue to search for the exit strategy. Will it be a book? Will it be a microphone company? Will it be a book that we put a phone in? I don't know.

We'll try. Hey, we'll be back on Sunday with a new live episode. If you want to listen live, fresh new content from the boys at No Agenda. Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. And remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com. We look forward to thanking you all in the next episode. Until then, adios, mofos, or hooey, hooey, and such.