No Agenda - 1792 - "Meloni in the Middle"

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I don't need the aggravation of ear mold. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorak. It's Thursday, August 21st, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1792. This is no agenda. We have a trillat! And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six in the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where we applaud President Trump going on Patrol. I'm John C. DeVorek. It's Crackbott and Buzzkill. In the morning. What did I miss? He went on patrol? No, he's going on patrol tonight. Oh, is he doing a ride-along?
Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah, in D.C. That's great. He just came out this morning. It was great is that people in other cities are going, hey, hey, hey, President Trump, come do that in our city. It's going to catch on. You watch. It's going to catch on. You can only catch on so far because he actually has the authority to do it in D.C. He doesn't have the authority to do it in San Francisco to this extreme.
Starting point is 00:01:09 No, but he has, it's this about the crime bill. It's going to be the Trump. Hold on us who. The Trump crime bill, Batman. That's what it's going to be. And you only got to hope that it turns out right because other crime bills in the past like that of 1992, it's not such a good deal. Although now they're kind of. kind of, the Democrats are kind of bragging about those old crime bills by Clinton and Biden.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yeah. They said, well, you, the Trump's not doing anything new. The crime was really reduced because of Clinton. What? The 92 crime bill, of course, incarcerated over a million black men for smoking weed. For weed. So the minute you see a kid on the front of Time magazine or Time website, where you're holding an oozy, smoking a spliff.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Then you know that they're serious about the crime bill. Is that what it was? What was the kid's name? From the 90, oh, man, Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo, where are you when I need you? Lil, Lil. What was it? Little Abbey. No, it was not Lil Abner.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Little Billy. No, it was. No, someone in the troll room should know by now. I don't even know. Yeah, it was the Lil yummy. Thank you. Lil yummy. It was like a third, you know, nine-year-old gang member, Lil Yankee.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Lil yummy was on the on the cover of Time magazine. And that was the whole impetus. No, that was when Hillary Clinton was out there saying, you know, these, how did she say degenerates? No, it was something like that. It was a term. Hey, how good are we? two forgetful boomers so that was that was the uh it was the Biden crime bill then I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:03:06 90 not 90s 2 94 94 Biden crime what was Clinton's phrase she used it was uh exploit the term was synonym for exploitative it was um Clinton I'd have to guess well there's only one way to go yeah you got your buddy there why you ask her okay the 1994 uh Biden crime bill, what did Hillary Clinton call the perpetrators like Lil Yummy? Oh, she called them Super Predators. There you go. That's it. Super Predators.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Thank you. We don't need to remember anything. We've got error. We've got error here. Super predators. Error. Her name's error. That's her name now.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Error. Does she make mistakes? Uh, you think? Error. Error. Yeah. Everyone's publishing articles now. It seems to be the new, new thing to publish articles about the AI hype being over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Oh, that means it's not over. I'm in agreement with you. When they say it's, because, you know, it's Altman. Altman is coming out and he's saying, oh, you know, the L.A. Times headline, say farewell to the AI bubble. Get ready for the crash. Well, he never said say farewell to the bubble. He just said there is a bubble.
Starting point is 00:04:26 No, this is the headline from the Los Angeles Times. It's not quote... Well, they're making it up. It's not in quotation marks. He's just saying it. He's just saying... Well, he's not saying that. He's saying it's a bubble.
Starting point is 00:04:38 He's not saying the bubble's over about the burst. Correct. Correct. The other one's saying that. The thing, though... And if I was in a newspaper, I'd say stuff like that, too. I'm a little conflicted because I got a report from CBS, which plays right into, I would hope, the Gen Zs that you and I have raised in these past 18 years,
Starting point is 00:05:04 because we have raised a nation, John. We have raised a generation of smart thinking kids. This is where you say, yes indeed, Adam. They're fabulous. And I hope that they have heeded our advice throughout the years, through our complaints about lack of shop and home eck and other trends. and apprenticeships, and maybe a few, maybe a few have thought about it because those who have listened to The Boomer Show are about to get rich.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Brandon Fry feels squeezed by two businesses trending in opposite directions. Data centers such as this one he manages outside Chicago, hum along with soaring demand. Everything in here needs servicing. Everything in here needs service. Tech support. Tech support, HVAC support, electricians. But the supply of technical support he needs available 24-7 keeps shrinking. What your customers don't want to hear is we can't find somebody for them.
Starting point is 00:06:04 That's the last thing they want to hear, and that will be the last conversation we likely have with them as a customer. Data centers now compete with factories and manufacturing plants for electricians and plumbers. As older blue-collar workers retire, younger people look at college and white-collar jobs. It's a growing labor crisis. Roughly 400,000 skilled trade jobs are unfilled in America. By 2033, it's estimated that number could hit close to 2 million. Now, listen to the numbers. What kind of money you can make as a plumber with your butt crack.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's awesome. You've got to be able to do more with less. Matt Rosler, an executive for a software company called IFS. I'm sorry. First you've got to get some tech guy and shove it in here for no reason in the story. says new technology is one solution. And you can see this is changing dynamically. His company sells this program that helps companies route and reroute their fleet of technicians.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You can take things like weather, traffic, different priorities, and add that on top. When you think about the labor shortages that are out there and you want to create more efficiencies and do more with less, this is how that's going to happen. Back at the data center, Dan Brown knows there's a little. labor crisis. We're always looking for good people to hire. But doesn't understand it. He told us in Chicago, experienced H-FAC technicians make more than $150,000 without student debt. The trace kind of got neglected, so now there's a boy that needs to be filled. And you're busier than ever. Oh, absolutely. Across the floor, electrician Kevin Fishback sees hope. His local unions aggressively recruiting young workers for its apprenticeship program.
Starting point is 00:07:54 They come into trades and they got insurance, they got health care, they got a pension. That's an update with power for Brandon Fry. That this career path is out there and it is a valuable career path to take. But for now, the data's in and it's unmistakable. Help Wadden. For I in America, I'm Mark Strassman in Chicago. And of course, we want to thank President Obama for telling everybody to learn how to code. Good job, good job, which was the worst advice ever, it looks like.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Good job, President Obama. No, and I think you can still just jump in on an apprenticeship. I'm sure that there's plumbers and HVAC companies out there that would love to have you. There's not as many as there should be. That's the real problem. The idea of apprenticeships has gone out of favor. The apprenticeship has sailed? No, it's gone out of favor.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Hmm. Well, you know, when they see the demand for people, I'm pretty sure that they're going to... Well, no, it has to come back. It's always been there. It's how it works. Yeah. You really can't graduate from high school as a plumber. You can't graduate from college as a plumber. No. You have to be shown how to be one by someone who knows how to do it right and professionally. I'll tell you, if this gig comes to an end, I'm going into plumbing. Yeah. Good to go. Good to go. Good to go. Plumbing 2.0. Well, yes. Meanwhile, we know that the bubble can the bubble has to be kept afloat and inflating at all cost.
Starting point is 00:09:37 The bubble's going to get bigger than a lot of people like to imagine. Well, it has to because according to Bloomberg surveillance, we need it. How do you think about GDP? Well, you know, everybody is, I guess, redefined what reasonable is or what Jay Powell describes as solid when we're barely running the economy so far this year, barely over a 1% annual rate. I mean, when I started in the business in the mid-80s, you got down to a one handle on real GDP growth and people were talking about reasonable. People were talking about stall speed and then asking when's the recession going to start. The economy, I think, is sputtering. It's uneven. You know, without the proliferation of AI data centers and all the technology spending related to general of AI, the economy would actually be in recession
Starting point is 00:10:24 right now. Yeah, I believe it. I believe it. We need all these data centers and everything. Of course, it's unfortunate that people are paying for it and paying for your stupid chat GPT by your electric bill and utilities doubling. I wonder when that riot is going to start. It has to.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It has to. people aren't going to take it anymore. Yeah, well, it's easy for you to say. Yeah, it's easy for me to say because it's true. When people, when they're like, I think it was like in Indiana alone, 80,000 people got switched off because they couldn't pay their bill, which had doubled. At a certain point, people get pretty antsy about that stuff. Yeah, well, who are they going to take it out on? their city council their mayor their city manager the mayor and city council don't
Starting point is 00:11:20 city manager except in some cities but generally speaking they don't determine the rates of the uh is PG&E for example in california which is who's the head of PG&E working some woman yeah well hey louis luigi luigi luigi this is where we're at in our culture right now no they have to suppress that Wow, you are just so positive about everything going great, aren't you? I'm just telling you, these things are harder to do than you think. Ah, in California. Like, what do people do with their high gas and electric gas and electric bill?
Starting point is 00:11:56 They stop using their power. And then they just say, okay, well, let's freeze the death. You buy more sweaters. All right. Buy more sweaters. Put it in the red book. Riot's coming. Riot's coming, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It has to be that way. We're Americans, ultimately. And then after the rights, what are they going to do about it? PG&E can document that fact that because of their old power lines in the woods and the fact that they caught a bunch of places on fire, burnt numerous millions of acres to the ground. And is it their fault that the lines spark because of a tree? Or is it the fault of the California people that don't do forest management anymore? they stopped doing it.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Or is it the fault of people like Gavin Newsom who drained this. He didn't drain the swamp. He drained the reservoirs. He actually tore down two or three dams. Whose fault is that? Is that PG and East Falls? Is that the reason that the race have gone up? No, it's Gavin Newsom's fault.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And who's writing against him? The Democrats are supporting him. Well, you're talking about California the whole time. California is not America. That's a whole different deal. California, that's the problem. California is America. you know if california was texas we'd be better off although we're trying to be texas yeah oh let's do
Starting point is 00:13:19 whatever texas is doing let's go let's copy that oh texas is going to is going to uh gerrymandered like we always have done so let's do our gerrymandering worse let's make us make us look like massachusetts where we have no republicans in any office whatsoever you know by cheating well let's point in the finger at texas this is bull crap Well, let me give you... That's what I got to say. Let me... All right.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Well, we'll get off the topic of California. Allow me to play a few clips here from what is happening in the United Kingdom, which has not come to violence yet, but it's brewing. And I've been around long enough. I remember those thin British coming down from the north to London with their pitchforks and their torches. It was not a pretty sight. And it's beginning now with operating. Raise the Colors. Have you heard of this?
Starting point is 00:14:16 Okay, you got me on this one. Here we go. This is Winston Marshall. He's a YouTuber, but he's a professional YouTuber. Over the weekend, a quiet revolution swept Britain. And if you only watch the mainstream media, you might never have known. It is the raising the colors movement. Up and down the country, flags are being hoisted, and our streets are being adorned with the cross of St. George, the Union flag.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Even roundabouts are being painted. the good people of the United Kingdom in their calm, collected way, standing up. And of course, those of the establishment and the regressive left, who are not completely ignoring this movement, are doing what they can to undermine it. You get something called Operation Raise the Colors. That sounds very military. It sounds very aggressive.
Starting point is 00:15:01 People aren't putting on this flag to celebrate Britain. They're putting on this flag to remind us that Britain is white and we shouldn't be here. When the BBC reported on the roundabout, they ran the headline, roundabouts vandalised, to look like St. George's flags. Contrast that with rainbow zebra crossings appear in resort. This morning, footage of Birmingham Council frantically trying to paint over the St. George's roundabout emerged.
Starting point is 00:15:24 At least two councils are working fast to take down the flags because they are deemed, quote-unquote, dangerous and to be putting the lives of motorists and pedestrians at risk. So the government and the mainstream, everyone's trying to have covered up. Don't show those flags. take those flags. By the way, you try that in America? If the, if the city started to take down American flags, hmm, that would be. Yes, that wouldn't go over. That would not go over. So listen to where this is happening and, of course, how it started is kind of well known. There's a lot more going on here than meets the eye. The British are a people of a tradition of being subtle
Starting point is 00:16:01 with their patriotism. That seems to be changing for good reason, which I'll explain. But let's have a look at how this movement came about. This does not come out of nowhere. Through July and August, anti-immigration protests have taken place outside of government-funded migrant hotels up and down the nation. London, Warwickshire, Solihull, Autringham, Bournemouth, Aldershot, Ashfield, Southampton, Portsmouth, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Norwich. Criminal incidents by those claiming asylum in local migrant hotels inspired the local communities to take the streets. Perhaps most famous of all was at the Bell Hotel in Epping where protests were sparked by the arrest and charging of an asylum seeker, Hadush Kabatu,
Starting point is 00:16:43 a 41-year-old from Ethiopia, who was accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl. The alleged incident occurred shortly after Kabatu arrived in the UK via a small boat, and he was residing at the Bell Hotel in Epping, Essex, which was being used to house asylum seeker. The protests began following his court appearance in July. This, of course, comes after years of pent-up anguish and frustration felt by British people because of sexual abuse by legal and illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, and communities of immigrant heritage. Most notably, of course, the rape gang scandal.
Starting point is 00:17:15 The 23 Noseley riots, which began because the police failed to deal with advances on a local girl by a man from a migrant hotel were a violent early example of such protests. So this is just the UK starting this, this is starting to bubble under in every single European Union member state. And, okay, so that's just flags, but... When the grannies come out, this is when you got to be careful. The pink ladies are in effect. As with the grooming gang scandal, it wasn't just the illegal behavior and sexual misconduct
Starting point is 00:17:46 of the immigrants which inspired the protests, but also the authority's mishandling of affairs. Now, amongst all of these latest protests were the pink ladies. British moms uniting to defend their daughters and children, and this really might be the turning point for Britain. When the mums get involved, it's serious. One of the organisers, Lorraine Kavanaugh, explained. We are mothers, grandmothers, aunts, sisters who wanted to protect our family. We don't hate these men.
Starting point is 00:18:20 We don't hate these men at all. What we hate is what the government has done. You know, we witness pensioners going up to the local supermarket, get in a basket and looking for the red stickers for reduced labels to get a bit of meat. And then we witness these guys, 20, 30s, getting three meals a day in an unlimited time four-stow hotel in Egyptian sheets, you know, mobile phones, and now I'm understood they get a 500-pound voucher to get clothing. And it's unfair.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And that's why we were standing up because it's unfair. Not because of the men, no doubt half of them would go nowhere near our children. But not one of them women are going to play roulette with their child's life. You're going to watch out with the British grannies come out. What are you going to do? You're going to mow them down? Yeah, move them down. Shoot them, spray them with water.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So the question always remains is that the similarity between besides even a drag queen's story hour, which appears in the EU, peers in Great Britain, or the fact that you have immigrants that are given cell phones and cash vouchers or credit cards in the EU, in Great Britain. And here, what is the connection? There has to be some sort of international connection because you don't have these phenomenon in these discrepant areas, specifically in western areas, the United States, the UK, EU, the exact same phenomenon where
Starting point is 00:19:59 migrants are invited in one way or another, given free cash, given free cell phones, given free accommodations here and there and everywhere. Who's coordinating this? This is coordinated by the globalists? Yes. But who specifically? This is ridiculous that nobody,
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm surprised that people have put up with this for as long as they have. Well, it started a long time ago with political correctness where people were told to shut up, don't say anything mean or nasty, and it just got worse and worse, and then we threw in some BLM and everything with color became an issue and cheap labor. Ultimately, it's cheap labor. And when I say cheap labor, not just in some factory of which there's not that much left anymore in Europe, but. cheap labor in the kitchen, cheap labor to do your lawn, cheap labor to wash your car, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap labor. Keep all of your kids on an, it's about money. Keep all of your kids on, on, on, on, in debt with, for education, you know, jack everything up. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, now. So who, who is that? Obviously, the Jewish bankers. I mean, what, what, what answer do you want for me? We all know the answer. First of all, I don't think it's about, the Roth trials. I don't think it's about money. because there's these guys, half of these guys are on welfare. The amount of, it's about breaking the backs of Western civilization. Right. It's got not about money.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I mean, there's the, these people aren't, I mean, half these migrants aren't, you know, doing the law on anybody's lawn. That's nonsense. I mean, people can do their own damn lawn. People can do their own laundry. All the things that they say, oh, who's going to clean your toilet? Clean your own damn toys by some lights off. Hello, have you been to the UK recently? No, I haven't been since 2017.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Okay. But that's fairly recently, and it was pretty bad then. It's accelerated. It's accelerated. Yeah, well, it's accelerated under Biden in this country. Yes. When they let in 20 million immigrants. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:09 That didn't do anything but take over apartment complexes. All right, stop. So then it's about political power. If you want to equate it to what happened here, we have a first row seat. It was about redistricting, getting more, in this case, Democrats seats and illegal voters. So isn't it ultimately about power and isn't power about money or is it just about power? No, power is about power.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So they can sit there and stroke their white pussy and go, I control you all, you plebs. Possibly. I think it's closer to that. But then who? Who is behind it? Well, it's definitely socialist, Marxists, Democrats. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And I think that is, I was thinking about this the other day, that every, the whole world, even humanity itself naturally migrates towards socialism and Marxism until it's too late and they figure out, oops, that wasn't a great idea. Because the alternative, which is a republic and freedom like the United States, it originally was, is not comfortable. It's a little scary. You know, you might have to get your hands dirty to keep things the way you want it to be. So I think that it's almost human nature like, well, you know, but just once I want to take care of me.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And the more that is allowed to happen, the more people feel comfortable with it until, you know, you realize you've built a prison up around you and you can't really get out of it. So yes, it's, it is Marxist. Marxist is probably the best description because it's cultural Marxism. We went through that. And then we were talking about that in 2009, even when Obama came in. Oh, cultural Marxism. And, you know, that is now completely a thing. And ultimately the systems.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And just look at our own political, our own representatives. Like California. I think California is like, hey, man, just take care of me so I can hang out, bro. Isn't that just human nature? And that was one of the great things about America. As we said, no, we're going to govern ourselves. And you can have a republic if you can keep it because it's hard. And then when you have the Marxist socialist government and system, well, that's great because the people who are chosen as so-called leaders and representatives, they love it because it's never a problem for them.
Starting point is 00:24:40 They make sure that they get their salary and they've got their health care and they've got their cars and they're taking care of. Well, this is well and good, but let's go back to the original question, which is, This is coordinated. You don't have drag queen's story hour in Sweden and the UK and the United States out of the blue. You don't have the same exact formula for the immigrants come in. They get a credit card. They get a cell phone and they get this. They get that.
Starting point is 00:25:10 They get free housing. Like in New York is a classic example at the Roosevelt. Somebody, there is a group that's identifiable. Yes. I can't identify them. I'm just saying they have to be identifiable that is behind the whole thing somehow. All right. Has managed to pull this off.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And I think it's obligatory for us to figure out who these people are and name them. Okay. Well, I hate to say it because you're not going to like my answer. But the true enemy of the people in this world is Satan. And we have a lot of Satanus running the show, running around, doing all kinds of satanic things. Well, I'll get, I'll, I'll let that slide as, as a distinct possibility, but there's still actual people. Yes. That need to be called out, named, pointed out, and strung up, literally.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Okay. Well, let's get gotten that far. Well, just, let's just, name one. Let's start with the low-hanging fruit. McCrone, Starmer, Queen Ursula, Peepers. go with those people. In fact, I have a clip here, which kind of brings this all together because it's AI, but it was so funny and so true at the same time. This is President Trump doing...
Starting point is 00:26:39 Oh, this is a good one. Yeah, this is going out of the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So President Trump is doing a kind of like an E entertainment channel, red carpet voiceover as... Not President Trump. Not President Trump, but President Trump, AI version, is doing a red carpet voiceover of the arrival of the
Starting point is 00:27:01 European Union leaders to the White House for the summit. Okay, let's see who arrives now. This guy, they say he's the president of Finland, looking like the captain of a cruise ship. We need to get him a captain's hat later on. Okay. Who the fuck is this guy?
Starting point is 00:27:17 These Europeans all look like accountants. Yes, sir. I come to New York, Texas. Okay, thank you, sir. Ah, the British Prime Minister, they say this guy is gay. I don't know if that's true or not. I just think he's a dork. This guy is definitely gay, and his wife is a man, and she beats him, M.M. Well, poor guy. Ah, Georgia Maloney. I love her. I told her and Elon that if they ever have a kid, they better name him Iloni. Maloney. Ursula. I like that she calls me daddy. They all should when you think about it. Good day.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I come to see my American daddy. Yes. Thank you very much. There's always truth and humor. You know, it's true. Accountants, cruise ship, captains, losers, weirdos.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You know, how did they get there? That can only, Yeah, that is actually the question of the day. That can only be through corruption in voting. I think that the fix has been in so long on that everywhere. They figured that out a long time ago. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:28:33 The people deserve it. We deserve what we got too. And now we have President Trump. And now it's even hard for him to hold on to anyone supporting him. Because, you know, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Yeah. So that is a question I fear, unfortunately, we'll never, will have to remain unanswered. Satan.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yes, that's my answer. That is the enemy of the world. Yeah, well, that's a nice answer. It doesn't help. That's a not, dude, I'll tell you this. It does if we all start to pray. If we all start to pray. It's not a helpful answer, no.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Not for a lapsed Catholic, no, but it's okay. I pray for you too. You know, you can pray all you want. It's not a good answer. It doesn't solve anything. Oh, okay. Well, say, what are you going to do? It doesn't solve anything.
Starting point is 00:29:20 That's the problem I have with it. The United States of America has a chance of getting out of some of this nonsense unscathed. We really do. Well, tell that to the Roosevelt Hotel. I'm telling it. Tell that to all the 20 million days. All it took was one guy, Biden comes in. It does know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yes. It only takes one generation to ruin it. Yes, that's right. One guy, four years. Well, you got to add Obama to it. Obama was a big part of it. He was a big part of it. It took a generation.
Starting point is 00:29:52 The millennials weren't paying attention. Can't blame him. They were siopped into believing. No, they were told, they're told stooges. They were sciop. They were siopped into believing that you need a college education and gender studies. And then you'll come out and you'll make $150,000 a year. Learn to code.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And meanwhile, butt crack plumbers can do a buck 50. Come on. Learned to code. It was a sciop. It was a sci-op. Yeah, we fired you, hold, all the entire pipeline operations shuddered. You guys should just learn, you pipeline workers should just learn to code. Do we have any, uh, oh, here's, uh, here's Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I come from a family where in an area where it's coal mine in a Scranton. Anybody who can go down 300 to 3,000 feet in the mine, Sherinho can learn how to program as well. Hey, man, you can learn how to program. You can learn how to program. And if you can go down to mine, you can learn how to program. Guy can't even program his phone. Well, let's get into this summit meeting for a moment because there are a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'll just set it up with unbelievably, unbelievably. And I'm sure you have clips of this, right? You've got an analysis. Yes, you do. Bolton, fart sniffing Bolton. By the way, my analysis is so off the wall that you blow out everything you can before we play it. Oh, okay. So Bolton, fart sniffing Bolton.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm not saying that flippantly. Wasn't he in a club where they sniffed each other's farts in New York? Or was that just the... This is... What? Yes. Yes. I'm sure of it.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Ah. Yes. I mean, I'd like that. That's funny. We talked about it on the show. No. Yeah. Okay, go ahead. Do your look up and see if you can find it.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Okay. Well, I have adhered. National security. There we go. Longest serving national security advisor. The question is, who was that? Yeah. Who's she going to bring on the show is the point? Oh. Who is she to back up all these claims of hers and the fact that Tulsi's a horrible person, who's she going to bring on? The fart sniffer. What's his name? The mustache man. Boom. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:32:19 Fart sniffer. Oh, you just called him his fart sniffer. Well, listen, listen. So we understand. There was a story that we've discussed that he would go to some club in New York where they would sniff each other's farts. Am I? No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yes. I like the idea. It's funny. But the fact that you're defending it, you imagine that it's true, it's kind of disconcerning. Ah. It was a I like This is the opening of the show
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yes there was a weird perverted club in New York There you go I'll save that one Ah I've got it Watson Tennessee Williams Was a part of this club No
Starting point is 00:33:07 Okay no Tennessee Williams was part of a necrophiliac club Well that's even worse than fart sniffing, I'd say. Anyway, we don't have to belabor the point of what Bolton does in his spare time. But he did do something interesting and... Well, he looks like a guy who... Precisely. It's so...
Starting point is 00:33:30 That's the reason that the joke is funny, but to believe it to be true is like... It's obvious. ...all over the top. You know what? I'm just making it true. Should we ask error? I mean, we can do that. Yeah. There you go. Ask our buddy error. Okay. Hey, error.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Is it true that John Bolton belonged to a club where people sniffed each other's farts? Oh, two, three. Well, she's digging. That seems to have popped up from nowhere. There's no evidence or credible reports of John Bolton being involved in anything like that. Ah, you suck. See, AI is wrong again. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:34:06 She took her for it. She actually did some digger on that way. I had the channel closed. I didn't have there. I didn't have her open. Her mic was not open. Uh-huh. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So here's Bolton and he does something interesting for the first time that I can recall in an interview, and this is NPR. Putin's pretext for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine was the possibility of Ukraine's NATO membership. NATO membership is a security guarantee. So given that, what indication is there that any security guarantee, is there any security guarantee that President Putin would accept? Well, there's a lot of loose talk in the. West about security guarantees. And many observers have pointed out, we gave Ukraine security
Starting point is 00:34:48 guarantees with the Budapest memorandum in 1994. That didn't deter Russia then. People throw around this talk of an Article 5 like provision. You know, Article 5 in the Treaty of Washington created NATO is famous for the line that an attack on one will be deemed an attack on all. And nobody forgets the line. Nobody remembers the line a little bit further down. in Article 5 that says that each party will, and I'm quoting now, take such action as it deems necessary. I looked it up. That's true.
Starting point is 00:35:24 We all have taken Article 5 at face value for the first line, not for the rest, which is, yeah, you know, we got your back if we feel like it. Did you know this? Yeah. I didn't know this. I didn't know that it was still optional. I thought I was, oh, yeah, you know. Well, otherwise, every time they missile accidentally, in fact, the latest thing would, I don't know if I have a clip of it, of the, the rocket that hit, or I guess it was a drone that landed in Poland in a cornfield.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yeah, but that was all, you know, running with their hair on fire over that. Yeah, I think that was. It could have the whole thing, you know, if it was. It could have, but it didn't. But that's not going to happen. No, that's not. We're not going to have nuclear war. We're not going to have any of that.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But as Queen Ursula led out on the last episode when she was doing her little love fest with the Zelensky in Brussels, it's going to be the Europeans. Now, the question is, what exactly does that mean? And I think what they all want is they want hundreds of thousands of European Union troops to be in Ukraine, not on the border. We'll have a demilitarized zone. and the reason for that is they want to keep their war economy going and we're going to be perfectly fine with that because we're going to be selling them all the dumb stuff they're going to be using for nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That makes nothing but sense. And then with the promise of EU ascension and we'll have to rouse up some corruption, which, okay, we'll see. Anyway, let's, since you've got an all- The Off-the-Wall analysis. I'll give the, I'll have our buddy, Andrew Rasulis, with his. Oh, there he is.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That's the, yeah. This is the guy. Pure buddy. This is the guy. This is your go-to guy. It's my guy. You're going to be hearing a lot from this guy for the next six months. That's because we like him.
Starting point is 00:37:28 We think that he's a former war department guy in Canada and he knows what he's talking about. And he has a pretty clear view of things. And it seems straight up. Good to see you on these key days. This is one, certainly. Some of the true social posts I was just mentioning, I wouldn't mind beginning there because of the latest we've heard from U.S. President Trump. Let's look at this. The one line he's written, President Zelensky can end the war with Russia almost immediately if he wants to. He seems to be putting the onus entirely on Zelensky here, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:38:01 What is he seeking to accomplish with this messaging? Well, I think the messaging is that basically the overall parameters of a deal are coming together. Now, that is from Trump's perspective. But he's basically saying there's a deal to be made here. There's going to be concessions on territory. In fact, reflections of reality, since Ukrainians were not going to militarily retake their lost territories. And the key thing, your quote from Vittkov, about the Russians making for the first time a concession on security guarantees, legal security guarantees for Ukraine. That's a new one. So I think from Trump's point, you saying there's the deal you've got it yeah there is the deal and the deal includes Crimea and
Starting point is 00:38:45 whatever security guarantees you want it will not be NATO okay well hold on for a second we'll come back to security guarantees because this truth social post continues that there will be no I just love how the anything on the internet truth social X what because of Zelensky's put not posting that would be funny if Zelensky posted on truth social that would be cool but instead he does it on X you know so this is now how the news operates. And President Trump's really smart with this. I'll give you my statement. Thank you for your attention to this matter. The social post continues that there will be no getting back Crimea and in all caps, no going
Starting point is 00:39:22 into NATO by Ukraine. And again, for Ukraine, deciding its future is so... All caps is, it's obvious, no NATO. You know, it's so essential to all of its demands. So again, what do you make of that part of Trump's latest social media posting? think it's a reality check here for the Ukrainians? Because the war started, the Russians attacked Ukraine over the issue of NATO enlargement. Up until right now, the Russian position has been that the war will only end when Ukraine becomes a neutral country. That is completely not militarily connected to the West, whether politically or militarily. Now, the concession, apparently, that Vittkov is
Starting point is 00:40:06 saying, of a legal guarantee bilateral, not NATO. but NATO style. Legal guarantee, that is a Russian change. They're actually saying Ukraine, what's left of it, can actually have a legal security guarantee with the West, including the United States. That's a fundamental shift, actually. That is big. And that is it, that's a huge concession. And I think that's why President Trump is like, well, we got a deal here. We just, it can't be NATO. And by the way, just to recall, was it not Vice President Kamala Harris, who went to the Munich Security Conference
Starting point is 00:40:41 and started all this by talking about, yeah, NATO, we should put some nukes in Ukraine. Wasn't that her? I don't remember her saying putting nukes in Ukraine. No, but I think Zelensky came right out of the, if I recall, I think Zelensky came right out of the Munich conference and said, well, yeah, we should have nukes here. But she was saying NATO.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Well, he's always talking about nukes. Of course. That's what he does. All right. Question here. What he thought of the EU leaders? I think Maloney is actually really interesting to watch here because we've already seen a quote from her saying that in terms of these security guarantees,
Starting point is 00:41:24 she's disagreeing with the French president Macron, who's constantly talking about bringing French forces, at least, or coalition of the willing forces into Ukraine after a ceasefire. Maloney's saying no. The Italians are really not opposed. opposed to that because they're saying, you know, there's X amount of Italians and there's Y amount of Russians. There's a whole bunch more Russians. So she doesn't want to get involved in a potential war with Russia over Ukraine. So security guarantees one thing, but boots on the ground in Ukraine is
Starting point is 00:41:55 another thing. So that's, so Maloney is very interesting that way. I think from Starmer and Macron and Merch, we're going to get the typical, yeah, we're going to boots on the ground, you know, Russia can't make a step forward, the hard line. But Maloney is actually the different one. Let's listen just for a second so we can see if we can recall it from this clip from MSNBC about Kamala at the Munich Security Conference. Lindsay, this speech was real. This was the single most significant speech by an American leader in the global forum calling out Russian aggression and calling out Russia for disinformation since 1962, since the Cuban Missile Crisis by Agley Stevenson. What we're watching right now with Vice President Harris is an American. leader essentially telling the world we are almost on the brink of war and we have to
Starting point is 00:42:46 stop that clip what is he talking about 1962 ad lay stevenson i don't know it's kennedy stevenson had nothing to do with the cuban missile crisis in 1962 he was a twice failed presidential candidate in 52 52 I'm sorry, 62 is when the missile crisis took place. 52 is when he ran. He ran again four years later in 56. Lost both times. When the last time, the same guy ran twice.
Starting point is 00:43:23 He had nothing to do with anything after that. He was an Illinois governor. I mean, it was like, what are they talking about Adelae-Stevenson? What kind of a report is this? What's for MSNBC? The more you know in the morning. I mean, come on. Thank you for correcting.
Starting point is 00:43:39 MSNBC. Surprising that they had something wrong. I'm just trying to see if he mentions what Harris said. 162, since the Cuban Missile Crisis by Adley-Stevenson. What we're watching right now with Vice President Harris is an American leader essentially telling the world, we are almost on the brink of war, and we have to resist it because it will destabilize our entire way of life. And that is a powerful message.
Starting point is 00:44:06 This is not a normal speech. This is a serious moment for the United States and for Europe. So, Joel, who's that message for? Who is Vice President Harris talking to? Is she talking to world leaders, the American people, Putin himself? Putin. First and foremost, she's speaking directly at that conference to the allies who are looking to her and to the United States for leadership at this moment.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And she's saying, we have delivered, we are with you, we are unified. And that is not always the message. And she hinted at this that the United States has been giving, certainly during President Trump. She's also making it clear to Vladimir Putin. And look at this, the juxtaposition, really, of the entire world, the United States. Yeah, but I don't know. I'll look it up for Sunday show. Well, you're not going to find it.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Okay. You doubting Thomas, you? No, she's not going to find it because she never did. We can't do that. We can't even suggest such a thing. And if she did, she's an, well, okay, I'm going to go on a limb here. if she did she's an idiot um let's play the poland stuff for a second just as a break okay uh the texas war hot poland okay texas i'm sorry i said texas because i got texas clip i went
Starting point is 00:45:24 but i'm so russia what is texas you put me in the same category as uh camilla yeah russia war hot but hot poland At least 14 people are reported injured in an overnight Russian attack on Ukraine's Sumi region. This includes a family with three children, aged five months, four years and six years old. That's according to Ukrainian officials, who say Russia launched 15 drones in the attack on the Sumi region in the early hours of Wednesday. Meanwhile in Ukraine's Odessa region, firefighters were dealing with the aftermath of another reported Russian drone strike. Ukrainian officials called it a massive drone strike, saying it injured one person and caused a large fire. Over 50 emergency workers battled the flames.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And in neighboring Poland on Wednesday, a military drone fell and exploded in a cornfield in the NATO member country. Polish officials say it may have been a Russian version of an Iranian drone. Once again, we are dealing with a provocation by the Russian Federation, with a Russian drone. We are dealing with it in a crucial moment when discussions about peace are underway. Residents in the area where the drone made impact recount the moment of the explosion.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You're sitting there, doing something on your computer, your wife's practically asleep, and then boom, the entire house shakes. An attack on Poland would mean an attack on NATO, which could have serious consequences. Poland also directly borders Germany, which has the highest GDP and is one of the most influential countries in Europe. Poland's defense minister says Russia's goal is to provoke Western allies.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Okay. Yeah, that some drone went off, killed her and landed in a cornfield big deal. It's also somewhat dubious because they determined that it was Russian from some fragments. And it's also exactly the kind of material that has been. used in Ukraine. Yeah, I'm sure it's completely dubious. By the way, he did mention Germany and in there. Did you notice Maloney sitting between Trump and Mr. Peepers?
Starting point is 00:47:45 Oh, yeah. Rolling her eyes and just going, you know, she did everything short of sticking her finger in her mouth and making a puke sound. According to the Polish Army, no airspace violations were detected from Ukraine or Belarus. police discovered charred metal and plastic fragments scattered across the cornfield. According to newspaper, Respospolita, the wreckage may be from a Russian Shahed 131-36 kamikaze drone, the type commonly used in Ukraine. So, you know, not necessarily enough evidence to get NATO to invoke Article 5.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Not going to invoke Article 5. No, we're not. Cornfield attack. cornfield they're hurting our cornfields now here's a part two at a time when president trump is doing everything to bring about this piece and ukraine is open to concluding this piece the provocative strategy and hybrid war continue so far russia hasn't commented on whether poland was the intended target really like they're going to comment hey well you were targeting that cornfield come on, be honest.
Starting point is 00:49:02 So while the first clip was playing, I read through the transcript of what Vice President Harris said, and she did not say specifically NATO's going to defend Ukraine, but it was so implied. So, but it was enough.
Starting point is 00:49:18 It was enough at the time. Putin said that, you know, hey, it's because of your stance that we did this because you were starting to rattle the source. She's just as responsible as anyone. Yes, that this is, this is what I wanted to point out. Well, you got that part right. It's her fault. It's all her fault. Well, she didn't do anything to stand it off, stand it down, that's her sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Let's listen to, well, I have NPR's Morning Edition report of the Coalition of the Winning. Oh, God, the morning edition is getting worse. Well, that's what we have. From Brussels, Terry Schultz, joins us now to talk about the challenges Europe faces with so many factors still dependent on Washington. So, Terry, how have European leaders been digesting the events from D.C.? Well, quickly is the best way I can describe it. It was less than 24. Quickly. Hours after those meetings at the White House that the EU leaders who'd been present there
Starting point is 00:50:12 were back here in virtual sessions debriefing their counterparts. And that urgency just goes to show how high stakes the situation. Stopped clip. They're the leaders, right? They are the leaders, yes. who are their counterparts then who would be a counterpart if you're the if you're the president
Starting point is 00:50:34 do you have a counterpart another another guy above you or even equal to you i mean there's 27 member states so maybe the other the other people like the polls and yeah and hungarians i'll let it slide and that urgency just goes to show how high stakes the situation is for europe they had both a meeting of this coalition of the willing that some 30 countries which have expressed their
Starting point is 00:50:59 readiness to physically help support a ceasefire in Ukraine. And they had one with just the 27 EU member countries. President Trump has made it pretty clear that he wants Europe to take the lead on Ukrainian security. That's our understanding, right? That's right. And they more or less already decided that themselves before Trump became more supportive of Ukraine. But now the president has confirmed it many times over. And the good news for the Europeans is that Trump is now pledging for the first time to help with these security guarantees for Ukraine. Charing the meeting of EU leaders, European Council President Antonio Costa said Europe is actually now working hand in hand with the U.S.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Their commitment to participate in the security guarantees with the Europeans and other like-minded countries is a very important step, a very welcome step. Now, Costa says there's still a difficult road ahead, but Europeans are feeling reassured by the new U.S. support. of course we don't really know what it means is it boots in the air is it uh and we'll do some flybys you know maybe we'll drop some supplies it's very it's not clear what we'll what we're going to do i predict we'll be doing very little other than uh dropping off the orders what did you order you ordered some tanks here they are what you got you want fries with that we're flying them in
Starting point is 00:52:15 how might this look though practically i mean this coalition has been meeting for months without the participation of the u.s well and all you guys well and all you guys Also, without even a basic outline of what a final peace deal might look like between Russia and Ukraine. So what would be the rules and protections and obligations of such a mission on the ground? In addition, it's been hamstrung since it was created by the U.S. lack of support earlier, which is really critical both in terms of capabilities, such as intelligence sharing and surveillance where the U.S. is dominant, but also the deterrent factor, sort of the stick that you have with an agreement backed by the U.S., especially in the eyes of the Kremlin.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So now discussions will take a new, more optimistic shape. Now, President Trump says no U.S. troops would join this mission. So how willing are Europeans to send their people into Ukraine? Well, that's a huge unanswered question because it's not clear whether this mission would be to sort of monitor a ceasefire or reinforce it or defend certain lines. And those verbs all mean very different things, carrying different levels of danger for those deployed. In general, European countries are going to have to send forces. And it seems about 10 of a committed to doing that so far. But some options are much less palatable than others.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And if this is a small force that's just there to deter Russia, reattacking Ukraine, this is sometimes described as a tripwire force, what happens if it is attacked? We don't have any answers yet. Or are we going to need to see hundreds of thousands of European military personnel armed to fight back? Yes. I think that's pretty unlikely. No, I think it's very likely. And they have to.
Starting point is 00:53:43 There is a very high unemployment level in the European Union. people have no work there's only one thing left to do constrict uh what's the constriction no constriction constriction conscription i like constriction is the same thing conscription thank you yeah there's to be a military draft they're already talking about it in germany and nobody wants it but okay oh the german the german youth do not want to fight for germany or anybody else for that matter there It's something like they did a survey, so like only 20, maybe 30% the most would take up arms for Germany. So 30% that's how much they hate their own country. 30% will go into the military and 20% will be, well, not actually more than that.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It'll be 50% women who probably won't have to go. And the 20% of men who don't want to go, they're going to be doing podcasts. I mean, there's nothing else for them to do. Podcasts. There's nothing else. and that's what you need. Like, hey, do you want to have a good pay? Go into the Luftwaffe
Starting point is 00:54:51 and get in there and it's going to be every single country. And it'll be a pretty good gig because nothing's going to happen other than some fear mongering. I think Russia likes it. We're probably going to do some great business with Russia. That's what I think is happening here.
Starting point is 00:55:09 President Trump, President Putin, like, okay, or whoever that is. because, man, that guy, have you, the pictures of Putin, it just doesn't look like Putin anymore. And by the way, somebody pointed out something because we have a fake, first of all, I get a little backstory. Mimi's working with a guy in Los Angeles to produce a book, a memoirs of this guy's doing.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I'm not going to say who. Oh, another book. Is this? Well, we got a bunch of, gateway publishing. Gateview, Gateview. Gate view. Gate view, I'm sorry. marketing marketing marketing marketing
Starting point is 00:55:46 I was a gate view I'll never forget now one of his best friends was Kennedy's double wow and he was so apparently was incredibly depressed when Kennedy was assassinated
Starting point is 00:56:03 yeah he lost his gig he lost his gig so some one of our producers pointed out in an email this morning saying that the fake Trump is up and around because the fake Trump has a tell. Yeah, I'm a little dubious about this, but it's possible. I'm dubious about it. I just like it. I'm just going to say it. People can figure it out
Starting point is 00:56:25 for themselves. I'm dubious about all the fakes, by the way, except for that Hillary, that one with the purse on the wrong side. And Daddy Longlegs Biden. Come on. Oh, and the double Biden. Yeah. There's at least three Bisons. So that's two out of four now. Okay. Okay. Well, half of them might as well just go all the way. All fakes, yeah, all body. So, uh, this Trump says the, when he's talking in the third person, he says the Trump administration, he refers to the Trump administration, when the real Trump always says my administration.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Hmm. Yeah, but that's speech written. Well, maybe not. That, well, it's something to look out for. I just say it was an interesting tell, if true, it's possible. Now, because, you know, Dick Gregory had this back in 2015, 2016, before he died. Oh, yeah. He had the thesis that there was two trumps, and one of them, he says, the real one always wore the red tie and the fake one wore a blue tie.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And that's when Trump only appeared with those two ties. Now he wears pink, he wears yellow, he wears all kinds of ties. Allow me to play that clip. First, there's two trumps. Okay. The one in the red tie is the real one. The one in the blue tie is not. The one you saw last night after the victory was the blue tie.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Now, if you would punch up Dr. Carson, Ben Carson, when Trump called him a pedophile. And the next day, he joined Trump. And the guy asked him, see, every night and then you sleep and say, sir, he said, why'd you do that? He said, there's two trumps. I was with the good one.
Starting point is 00:58:05 You see it, that. Just punch up. When somebody interviewed him, he said, there's two Donald Trump. That's easy to pull up. You know, there's a... I forgot about the Ben Carson anecdote. Yes. There's a different theory, which I quite like,
Starting point is 00:58:25 and the only reason I bring it up is because this clip kind of... By the way, we're the only podcast and the best in the universe. Of course. That talks about body doubles when it's a known fact that they're used to an extreme. the theory goes that the elites have long since perfected the art of cloning ever since that stupid sheep dolly dolly the she I met that dog I thought it was a sheep oh no I met the first clone dog yeah and and what did he say hi he said hi okay um but this I'm just saying because the theory keeps coming back.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And people email me this very seriously. So I take these things seriously because they clearly believe that it's, if not possible, that it's true. And that many celebrities already have their clones. And of course, they need to shut up. Otherwise, you know, they'll have to do all the work themselves. That would suck. Heaven forbid. And, you know, and that the real Putin, this is the story.
Starting point is 00:59:37 The real Putin, the O.G. Putin is dead. He died because, remember, he had cancer. He had leukemia. They kept trying to kill him and train wrecks. Yeah, they kept trying to blow him up. So he was dead. But luckily, luckily, they had the clone. And President Trump himself in 2022 kind of alluded to this. Do you respect Putin? Well, he's a different person. I'll tell you something. I got along with him. And look, I got along with him loving this country. and he loves his country, okay? But he's a different person than he was. He seems to be different. He looks different.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Is he, is he solid, mentally? It just doesn't seem to be the same person I was dealing with. There you go. There you go. It's a clone. Well, that's an interesting clip. The problem I have with it is why haven't they, if they can make a clone,
Starting point is 01:00:36 why haven't they perfected it? I mean, I've heard the reasoning behind it, that it kind of actually looks like the person. It's not a clone if he doesn't look like him, if he doesn't think like him, if he doesn't act like him. It's not a clone. It's detectable.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Well, if you're going to, I can see the rat, I can see somebody coming up with reasons. I mean, for one thing, the developmental aspects of a person, you can develop a worry, lines or using aging, just normal process of getting older and older, you know, you might get a bad habit that creates a line in your face or you ate too much and you're getting
Starting point is 01:01:19 a chubby face. I mean, there's all these variables that you can't control in terms of making a copy. So you might have what somebody should ideally look like. Genetically, they'd look like this if they hadn't, you know, chubbed out when they were in their 30s and lost a lot of weight, took those Zempic. Congratulations. You have nailed the theory of clone difference to the T. It's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Because even though you can make the clone, you can't control what the clone eats and the different environment they live in versus their original DNA donor. That is exactly the theory. That's how it goes. And who knows if that phone call was the real Trump? We don't know anything.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Breaking news. Nobody knows anything. I don't even know if that's a basic thesis of the show. I don't even know if you're John C. DeVorak anymore. I haven't seen you in a couple of years. I don't know. They may have replaced you. I could be a clone myself.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Well, that's why I'm talking like this. Well, they nailed it on the attitude. So good job, science. That's all it takes. It's just genetic. I don't even do about it. Anyway, Reuters went to the much more important things of the summit meeting. Obviously, Reuters, they would take the high road.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Another talking point from Monday's White House meeting, that suit. President Zelensky, you look fabulous in that suit. Zelensky's black shirt and blazer combo certainly made diplomatic waves, as well as keeping Donald Trump and journalist Brian Glenn happy. He was the one who called out Zelensky for his attire in February. Behind the new look, Ukrainian designer Viktor Anizimov. He told us he didn't tailor the look. for Trump or anyone else.
Starting point is 01:03:09 He says a leader should look dignified, and that's it. And it was all very last minute, and Izimov saying that he was working on alterations until just before Zelensky flew out to Washington. I love that Reuters actually went through the trouble of trying to find the designer of the suit. Well, that's interesting because they tried to, at least Fox tried to promote it as they bought the suit that day,
Starting point is 01:03:34 at one of the clothing stores in New York or in Washington. Like H&M off the rack. That's mean. That's just Fox. That's just Fox being Fox. Yeah. But yeah, it can't make sense. It doesn't take that long.
Starting point is 01:03:51 You know, if you're in Asia for people out there who, if you ever travel, anyone out there that goes to Korea, I'd say even Taiwan to a lesser extent. But Korea is the main place. They have the suit makers in Etowan. district. There's a bunch of these clothing places. I know, John, you used to have your shirts made. Tell them about the pocket. And I would have, well, I wasn't going to talk about the shirts. You are now. You are now. Okay, I used to have custom shirts made and I always had a Perry Ellis pleat put in the shoulders, which was, no one else will do anyplace else. Well, they do in Hong Kong, too.
Starting point is 01:04:25 What kind of pleat? It's a pleat that's on the, on the shoulders that I notice, and Perry Ellis shirts used to have. I noticed it on a bartender once, and I asked them, because it has a, certain look to it. It's a beautiful look. Imperiella is the name of the... Perry Ellis. Oh, Perry Ellis. Perry Ellis. Perry Ellis. The Perry Ellis cleat. Pleat. Pleat.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Pleat. Okay. Perry. I'm just trying to get it. Anyway, so you can have this done. So I have these shirts made with that pleat, which is technically illegal. Yeah. But the because it's copyrighted or something. But anyway, so I always had my, the shirt pockets were the exact same size as a
Starting point is 01:05:04 a CD. So when you go to a party and you want to steal somebody's CDs, you could easily slip them in the shirt pocket. They go right to the bottom. Boom, no one would ever know you had him. How many CDs did you wind up stealing? I never stole one. I just, just in case. Just in case you need to, if I had to, I had the, I had the, I had the, I had the, I had the means. Cop a disc. Yeah, so there's big pockets, because you have this. Puckas are a little large. Now, the question is, was it a five-inch floppy? No, it's a CD with the jewel case.
Starting point is 01:05:44 It had to be, it was the size of a jewel-case CD. Hey, man, that guy's got some awesome tunes. I'm going to steal his CD. You're a treasure. Oh, yeah. And by the way, I would be all four clones of us taking over the show. I'm good. Put me in a tiny home.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Perfect. Let's go. With growing doubts about America's willingness to defend its allies, especially under President Trump, some lawmakers are now discussing hosting, sharing, or even developing nuclear weapons. They just threw that in. Wow. They just threw that in. Oh, they're just asking for trouble. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Well, we're ready for my three clips. Yeah, yeah. Well, hold on. Do you get any more? Because you get them out of the way because after this is. It'll be done after this. I know. from Reuters about the whole security deal.
Starting point is 01:06:36 President Trump is weighing whether to offer U.S. air support, potentially including fighter jets. What is up with the, this is Reuters, they're a news agency. They're kind of dramatizing everything. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. President Trump is weighing whether to offer U.S. air support, potentially including fighter jets, to guarantee Ukraine's security in any future peace deal with Russia. Military planners in Washington and Europe are exploring options for post-conflict security following Trump's meeting with Ukraine's president and EU leaders,
Starting point is 01:07:13 which ended with plans for direct talks with Russia's Vladimir Putin. Steve Holland has more on the U.S. calculations. One of the things they're not considering is putting U.S. troops on the ground. That idea bubbled up in the last few days, and President Trump has basically shot that thing down. But other ideas that are possible are the United States providing air support for whatever peacekeeping buffer is there along the border. There's also the possibility of supplying air defense systems to Ukraine to protect them from these drone attacks, missile attacks from Russia.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Theoretically, if there's a halt of the fighting, these people would be there on a peacekeeping bases. Another option, according to two sources Reuters spoke with, is sending European forces to Ukraine, but putting the U.S. in charge of them. Whatever is worked out, President Trump will need to allay fears domestically. The American public is largely supportive of Ukraine, but they're also leery of more foreign entanglements. Trump was elected on one of the notions that he would not involve the United States and overseas conflicts. He has stuck to that. And by ruling out troops, he's trying to stick to that as well.
Starting point is 01:08:36 But his MAGA base of supporters, they are really against this sort of thing. So Trump would have to provide them some sort of reassurances that the United States is not going to get into a hot war against Russia. Yeah, because otherwise Dave Smith will get angry and Scott Horton will freak out. how's that Middle East war going against Iran that we were going to be in? Yeah, well, those guys are nuts. Yeah, by the way, you took me off the track with that shirt story. I meant to talk about getting a suit, tailor-made suit in Korea. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Which is what people can do. And I was saying, if you go to Korea, make sure to go to this district. There's a number of stores that do this. Shop around because there's about the price, different. differs a bit, but you can get a tailor-made suit for about $200 to $250 and a tailor-made sport coat for $150. They'll fit you and then do the adjustments on the same day. You'll have a complete suit the next day.
Starting point is 01:09:38 It doesn't take forever if they have the infrastructure. So the idea that Zelensky had to go for a million, you know, sit down, get a jacket. But this is old couture, you know. Yeah, sure. Ukrainian fashion. I'm sure, you know what? I am going to tell you right now that in the next Paris fashion shows, I don't know when they're coming up, fall, maybe the fall fashion show.
Starting point is 01:10:07 There will be Zelensky-inspired fashion. It'll be from some previously unknown Ukrainian fashion designer, and people will love it. Oh, this is fabulous. very much, very Zelensky of you. Very Zelensky of you. By the way, let me just say, trolls. Dunk, go, they said,
Starting point is 01:10:33 oh yeah, dunk on the pro-peace people. We're anti-war and pro-peace too. Doesn't mean that some things don't have to happen. Well, I think the pro-peace people, in many instances, as proven by these next three clips, may be just stooges, and I would say this chat room, probably has more than a few, stooges for China. Ah, there you go, because that's what the bombing of Iran was about, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Now, let's, let's, this is an analyst who's in the intelligence side of thing. So he's a little different in his approach to thinking about China. But when you think of, when they're talking about the situation going on in Ukraine, and you're talking about trilateral, what is, what comes to mind? When I think about the situation in Ukraine, and I think about trilateral, this is a riddle, I don't know if I can solve. Well, it shouldn't be hard for you to say it means that the Russians, the Ukrainians, and Trump are going to get together in a trilateral three-way meeting. Yes, a threesome. That's what everybody thinks trilaterals to all about, right?
Starting point is 01:11:46 That would be, right, yes, right, right, right? right right right you can't you can't end the sentence with right right right right you can't you're right right so um not according to this analyst this guy has a different look at things and he thinks that this war is designed to drag on and he's got his own reasons this is quite an interesting analysis which nobody has even discussed or come closer this is the new russian trillat One. And joining us now to discuss these latest of elements is National Security Advisor and China analyst Casey Fleming. He's the CEO of Black Ops partners. Casey is always, thank you so much for joining us. Now, all eyes are on how the Russia-Ukraine conflict is going to end. Russia has just indicated it wants a trilateral with India and China. What could this mean in terms of Putin ending or continuing the war in Ukraine? I think what we're looking at and my team thinks that what we're looking at is an extended peace negotiation. we've got two sides we've got the united states and ukraine who want an immediate end to the war and you've got the other side which is china russia and uh other allies of china and russia
Starting point is 01:13:01 who want to keep it extended and they play the long game so we want to play the short game to a quick ceasefire and a quick uh peace agreement but uh the other negotiators the adversaries want to keep it much longer the cp is the wild card in this thing the ccp plays the long game. They want to keep Russia engaged in Ukraine, therefore the U.S. engaged in Ukraine to keep us distracted along with the Middle East and potentially another war that pops up, either Taiwan or North Korea. So the game for the CCP is to keep the United States very distracted so they can continue their extreme aggression throughout the rest of the world. Oh, this doesn't surprise me that the NTD China haters would see this as the angle.
Starting point is 01:13:50 That's not so surprising. Well, I agree 100% with the NTD China haters because they're totally on board with anything like this. China is running away from everywhere. I just read that Angola... But you maybe have been duped. What, that 300,000 Chinese are fleeing Angola? because the Angolanes are sick and tired of their belt and road lies? You may be, maybe that's not, maybe they've been duped.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Oh. I mean, I agree that this is NTD's, China haters. This is, well, that's the reason I have these clips. This is the worst case analysis. It's not like best case. Okay, okay. Well, it's good. So it's worst case analysis.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Looking at China as the bad guy in everything you do, everything you see, everything you eat, everything you buy is China. Best price. So it's, okay, so we're continue with that thesis in mind. Now, on that note, both China and India have been buying Russian oil, which the U.S. has been helping to fund the conflict, although India has been buying less since President Trump slash additional tariffs on Indian exports to the U.S. over its Russian oil and gas imports.
Starting point is 01:15:01 But reports note that China is involved with more than just economic support. Some note the no-limits partnership that was struck right before the invasion. What has been China's role here? China's role has been very supportive of Russia. you remember that they created a very strong alliance and agreement until friends until the end before Russia ever went into Ukraine. So there's a strategic partnership there, at least for now, where they are aligned against the United States
Starting point is 01:15:34 and to remove the United States as a global superpower and for the CCP's eventual rule of the rest of the world. So it's a partnership that we cannot ignore. The CCP is the wild card in this situation. They are the grand puppet master with Russia, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, underneath that, and to a little bit of an extent, India as well. So China is the wild card. They want to keep this war going as long as they possibly can.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And if there is a temporary ceasefire or, quote, temporary peace agreement, it will be temporary. Okay. And does he explain just how China is going to keep this war going as long as possible? I mean, are they going to do that through their misinformation through, but what are they going to, what tools do they have for this? Tucker Carlson. What do you mean Tucker Carl? Is he a pro-China guy all of a sudden? I don't think, I think there's a lot of unwitting dupes. You've named a couple of them, the so-called peace nicks, the people in the chat room that condemn us when in fact we're the peace nicks but why okay
Starting point is 01:16:49 hold on i'm i'm with you i'm just trying to understand where to look for this what it they're clearly not getting a phone call saying hey best price say well i think a good example i think a good example is mr peepers at the sit down with maloney in the middle uh rolling your eyes and he's going on and on about how we should uh demand that the ceasefire instead of the peace agreement. And the ceasefire is a, all right, all right. I'm with you on the European Union Stooges for sure. It's because we know it just by what we know, which is the ceasefire is a non-starter
Starting point is 01:17:29 for Putin because he knows that all that means is just going to be a pause so Ukraine can regroup and re-attack. And so they can't have that. And they're not going to do a ceasefire. under the circumstances, but yet, why is Mr. Peeper's pushing it out of the blue knowing full well what happened with Trump and Putin? But he's yak, yak, yak, yak in it right there with Maloney in the middle. So I say the Chinese got there.
Starting point is 01:17:57 And like this guy says, they're puppet masters. They get these puppets. And the puppets are everywhere, according to him. And I think there's some evidence of that. Okay. First of all, Maloney in the middle just sounds like a cool game. I mean, it's like spin the bottle on steroids. Maloney in the middle.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Well, I'll ask you the question after you set up here, the last clip of this. And I have a question about this. Okay. And speaking of alliances, Casey, what about the North Korean troops fighting alongside the Russians? How should we read that? The strong alliance, like I mentioned, China is the grand puppeteer, the grand master puppeteer with Russia, Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea, that piece of it. And just to add a little bit of confusion and a little bit more complexity underneath Iran, you have the terrorist organizations. So this is all a master plan by the
Starting point is 01:18:50 Chinese Communist Party. I think we as a government, we as a country in the free world underestimate China. We all have a long history of underestimating the Chinese Communist Party and it's high time that we understand just how critical their role is in the future developments of the world. Expand on that for us a little bit. What is China's goal in terms of the Russia-Ukraine war here? Is it in the Chinese regime's interest for it to continue? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:19:18 They are supplying Russia with finance, buying Russian oil and military armaments, including drones. So they're fully engaged. Again, they want this war to continue indefinitely. Hold on a second. That's very interesting. And I'll tell you why. Let me hear that last, the first bit.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And on that for us a little bit. What is China's goal in terms of the Russia-Ukraine war here? Is it in the Chinese regime's interest for it to continue? Absolutely. They are supplying Russia with finance, buying Russian oil and military armaments, including drones. Drones. The reason I pick up on that is because that was a main talking point by Queen Ursula in her Zelensky love fest, where she said, well, you know, it looks like there's going to be mainly drones that we're going to be building in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:20:12 So it's a twist. It's a twist around to think of it, but maybe she's also in on this and like, well, you know, there's just going to be lots of drones because China's going to do drones and we might as well do drones. And we'll just keep this a drone thing because it's a big moneymaker for my overlords in China. Does that make any sense? Yeah, I guess. be. Okay. So they're fully engaged. Again, they want this, they want this war to continue indefinitely. So it keeps us distracted, keeps us spread very thin from supporting, you know, two, three wars around the
Starting point is 01:20:51 world. So CCP has ultimate designs. I think when you have to look at it, they, they want to rule the world completely in their 100-year plan, which ends in the year 2049. As Xi Jinping and the CCP have overachievers, you might want to forecast that being year 2035, which is 10 short years away. And here's a quote for me, the world will be won or lost within the next 10 years. That's from our analysis of what's been going on, and we've been in this game quite a long time. Hmm. Well, here's my question. If we have Stooges, and I'm not going to go for podcasters or trolls in the troll room. But let's say Peepers, maybe Ursula.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Ursula is corrupt. We know that because of just look at the text gate with Pfizer. She's clear and she's not elected. She's just showed up all of a sudden from Peepersland. Yep. So what is the incentive for them? That has to be money. You're not telling me that they're in a just for the power.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Well, that's a good question, and I don't know the answer to it. There is an incentive of some sort. Money. I mean, don't they just want to have lots and lots and lots of money and just be, you know. Well, I think they would have that type of attitude, I'm sure, because, you know, everyone's always jealous to somebody, the billionaires of the United States and China, which has just almost as many. And their luxury, life, life of luxury in their villas here and there. If they have them, although our people don't do that so much. No, no, but they like having their hair done in Paris and flying around.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Flying around. Flying around. Flying around, basically. By the, a lot of those. And being extolled. Extoled? Extold. Oh, look at who.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Hey, hi. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Worshipped. Worshipped. Yes. Well, there's a plan of foot.
Starting point is 01:22:57 If it's money, if it's money, then there's something, there's a plan here that, do you mind if I do a little series here? I'm, uh, I relinquished the floor because I gave you my, uh, screwball analysis that nobody else has even touched. It's good.
Starting point is 01:23:14 And now you can do you if you got something else. Well, and I, and I'll also add to that that, that, if it gets boring, I'll let you know. Yeah, I don't care. Um, of course.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Well, you'll let me know, but it won't stop me. Yeah, no, it never does make a difference. You just get irked. I'm not even going to get irked because I think you'll like it. But, we do know that Mark Rutter Secretary in general
Starting point is 01:23:39 of it's not my series it's not my series it's not my series don't get too excited oh nuts it's not Mark Rutter but he kept saying well you know NATO when we say yes we must
Starting point is 01:23:52 the United States must pivot to Asia to the Pacific we must pivot to Pacific so this not only it's just Russia now but it must be the Pacific So that is definitely on deck. And again, I think our general agreement is that the bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities was to send a messes to China. And it seems to have worked.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It ended. And President Trump even sent the Israeli jets back, you know, because I don't know, who's in charge there. You've got to wonder. Anyway, so this starts off with Bessent, our secretary of the Treasury, who said, no way, I don't want to be the Fed. I don't want to President Trump. He said, oh, he loves what he's doing. He wants to be that he wants, he wants to be right where he is.
Starting point is 01:24:42 No, he does not want to be a part of the Fed. And I think it's pretty clear that President Trump has his sight set clearly on the Fed and the power that they have. And everybody should be happy that that's being looked at because it sucks. It sucks that the Fed has so much power over our lives. So we start first with, this is him with Cudlow. And this is kind of not really discussed that very much, but this foreign investment that we keep hearing about, oh, you know, 500 billion from these guys, 700 billion from these guys,
Starting point is 01:25:21 everyone's going to be, that's not just a direct check that they write off to American companies. This is highly orchestrated. We have these agreements in place where the Japanese, the Koreans, and to some extent, the Europeans, will invest in companies and industries that we direct them largely at the president's discretion. And how's that work? I mean, it's almost like an offshore appropriation. I'm not sure we've ever had anything like that in the States before. Have you consulted with, I don't know, the Senate Finance community? or the House Ways and Means Committee, or what?
Starting point is 01:26:04 Well, Larry, I think a good framing of that is other countries, in essence, are providing us with a sovereign wealth fund. So they're going to buy our goods. That's essentially what's going on. Wait, let me step back. They're going to build our factories. They're going to help us to build new factories, which Mr. Trump loves. Exactly. So the way to think about it is these huge surpluses accumulated all.
Starting point is 01:26:29 offshore. Let's take Japan. We're going to have $550 billion. And they will be reinvesting that back into the U.S. economy. And we will be able to direct them as we reshore these critical industries. We are trying to de-risk the U.S. economy from what we saw during COVID. President loves new factories. He'll take rehab old factories and he loves new factories. So I thought that was rather interesting. that basically, I guess the treasury is say, okay, here's where you're going to put the money. This is what you're going to do.
Starting point is 01:27:09 If true, but it's sound, and I'm sure that that's where tariffs and all kinds of other stuff comes into play that we're not told about. It's like, well, you don't want to put your money into these companies, tariff. We're just going to mess with you with tariffs. So then it comes, this,
Starting point is 01:27:26 and thanks to Chris Fisher from Jupiter Broadcasting, He did a great series on these, and I was taken by it. And it's from Arthur Hayes. He's a former Wall Street guy, Deutsche Bank, Citigroup, market maker and ETFs, trader, Citibank in Hong Kong. He's been around. But he also co-founded Bitmex, which is a cryptocurrency exchange. And he's widely regarded as someone who's smart.
Starting point is 01:27:55 and he explains the stable coin gambit under Bessent and the control it will have over the entire world and how it will neuter the Fed. There's two pools of money, which I think Besson via monetary policy and aggressive use of terrorizing sanctions, can make people on board in the stable coins. The first is the euro dollar market, right? So, you know, 1950s and 60s, Eurodollar market was created because of all. And just, we've been through this before, but the Eurodollar market is nothing more than dollars that are not in America,
Starting point is 01:28:35 but mainly traded in foreign exchange in Europe. And there's a lot of them. And once they're in a non-American bank, you know, there's really not much control we have over it. So that's the Euro dollar, as they call it. You know, 1950s and 60s, Eurodollar market was created because of all the regulations and prohibitions about interest payments and trade flows that the U.S. monetary authorities are putting on commercial banks. And so you have these foreign branches of U.S. banks and foreign banks saying, hey, I'll take your dollars outside of the U.S. control. And so we have this $10 to $13 trillion market, which nobody has any control over. Oftentimes influences Fed and Treasury policy in terms of when dollars become expensive and cheap in the euro dollar. market, and you can probably trace almost every financial crisis outside of the United States
Starting point is 01:29:25 to the euro dollar market flows. And, you know, these flows are not doing what best it wants them to do. He can't control them. He doesn't know where they are, and he can't make them buy what he wants, which is treasury bills. So my idea, and, you know, maybe he'll do this or maybe he won't, I don't know, is right now, why do you feel comfortable in a euro dollar? Because every time your banking institution has gotten into trouble, the Fed of the Treasury bills you out, even if technically they shouldn't be doing it so, because you're not
Starting point is 01:29:51 not a member of the discount window, don't follow U.S. regulations, but, you know, we can point to many, many, even 2008, the Fed secretly bailed out all these foreign branches of banks for all their bad trading policies to make sure the Eurodollar depositor was sweet. So the idea here is to have stable coin flood the world, but not just floating out there as dollar equivalents, but to have complete control over the users of it. already 400 million people are using stable coin throughout the rest of the world. And this is how Bessent never wants to go to leave for the Fed because he can actually neuter the Fed and control interest rates through the stable coins backed by short-term U.S.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Treasuries. So the first thing Besson should do is say, hey, guess what? If you don't have your money in a U.S. branch of a bank or a U.S. bank inside of America, you do not have a guarantee any longer. We will not come and save you anymore. So all of a sudden, these dollars are like, oh, okay, well, there isn't this blanket government guarantee from the Fed and the Treasury for these trillions of dollars that I have deposited on these banks. But I could put my money into a stable coin. And a stable coin means that the dollars are either a deposit at a U.S. branch of a bank in America or they're holding treasury bills.
Starting point is 01:31:10 So if you don't feel safe in your Deutsche Bank account in Switzerland or wherever, just talk to your authorized. participant and move these deposits over to a stable coin, and now you have access to your dollars, you have the blanket guarantee of the U.S. government, and guess what, you might earn a bit of a yield on your money, because you probably don't get much of a yield in a euro dollar deposit outside of America because the banks don't actually need your money and they have to pay capital charges because they're basle three and blah, blah, blah, right? All the, all the bad things about why banks don't like large deposits. And so now you have a $10 to $13 trillion tam of money that could flow into stable coins from abroad, and once you're in a stable coin, best in his full
Starting point is 01:31:52 control. He knows where you are, you know, which bank. He knows where you're clearing your treasuries. And the best part is he can offer you a yield that's lower than Fed funds. So if Fed funds is four and a half, he can say, oh, guess what, I'll give you two on a six-month T-bill. And you say, well, I can't really do anything about that because I'm not going to go into a U.S. bank deposit. The banks don't even pay you anywhere close to Fed funds. So fuck it, I'll just buy the 2% that Besson offers. So Bessick can one fell stroke completely new to the Fed and no longer does the Fed of any control over Fed funds because Besson can offer the treasury bill at whatever price he wants, unconstrained by what, you know, Powell or whoever his successor does.
Starting point is 01:32:33 So that's the control mechanism. Now, how are we going to spread these stable coin around the world and the United States, so everybody starts using them. We harken back to Elon's everything app, X money, and not just him. What was that dumb Facebook coin that they almost got through? I can't remember the name of that thing. It was. I know who would know. Error?
Starting point is 01:33:04 Error would know. Error would know. What was the name of the Facebook money? that they tried to push through. So, about the last bit, the Facebook settlement money, payments from the $720. No, see, she's stupid. Oh, she's dumb.
Starting point is 01:33:21 She's a dummy. Yeah. Facebook had a coin they tried to push into the market. Oh, you mean like the launch coin on the belief platform? It's been. Okay. It has no answer for me, stupid. Well, that she should.
Starting point is 01:33:38 The corpus would have that information. All right, stable face, whatever it was called. Someone will eventually come up with it. Maybe you dreamed it. The fart coin. Zuckerbox. No, none of that. Zucker bucks.
Starting point is 01:33:53 That's it. The Libra. There it is. Thank you. Thank you, weirdo. The Libra. And everyone's all in. Weirdo.
Starting point is 01:34:00 The guy's name was Weirdo. W-I-I-R-D-O, Weirdo. So, what could you do now to speak? spread your stable coin throughout the world. The U.S. has ways. You have a lot of retail around the world in developed and developing countries. I live in Asia, and basically the entire investment game out here in Asia is how do we get local currency into dollars so that they can buy higher yielding assets and equities? That's literally all of finance in Asia.
Starting point is 01:34:30 And then every so often, the regulators come after people and they basically put the young guy in jail and the boss stays sweet as they do. And that is the game. So Bessica could say, okay, guess what? We're going to deputize Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg and give them protection to go and offer a stable coin bank account. And we don't care if a foreign regulator, whether banking or internet regulator, says, we don't like this. We don't like that you're basically giving a dollar bank account to our entire, you know, underclass or anyone who's not a wealthy individual. and, you know, they don't care because they're sitting in Hawaii and Austin, Texas, and Trump is protecting them. And if you go and you try to remove access to Facebook or X, guess what?
Starting point is 01:35:18 Sanctions, just like what he, what Trump threatened with Europe when they had their digital information act or whatever it is. So that's how they'd spread it around. I'm totally, that's of all the things he's saying, like that makes a lot of sense. And looking at the Genius Act that would be possible if they adhere to certain. Basically, you have to have $10 billion in cash. Well, that's possible. But now to bring it back around to the corrupt CCP influenced politicians, this is another perfect gambit for it.
Starting point is 01:35:50 And then furthermore, Destin finally has a sanctions weapon, right? So if you're in Asia or a lot of development, stop. And I will say that I could call this a boring presentation, but it's interesting at the same time, which is a... No, that's a conundry. But that's that why I'm stopping it. Who is this guy again? Arthur Hayes.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And what's his background? Wall Street banker and the founder of Bitfinex, a big cryptocurrency exchange. But he's a long-term, I think mainly in Hong Kong, Deutsche City. Yeah, he says he's in Asia. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:32 This is the last clip, so thank you for hanging in there. And then furthermore, Besson finally has a sanctions weapon, right? So if you're in Asia or a lot of developing world, all the elites essentially steal from their people and put their money in U.S. banks in some ways you'd perform. And so guess what president or prime minister or parliamentarian? If you don't allow Western social media companies to bank all of your people with dollars, I'm going to sanction you and you're going to lose access to the billions of dollars that you stole from your people. And so guess what's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:37:02 Nothing. And so I think that is how you're going to get, you know, sort of like 20, 25 trillion dollar tam of money that could flow into dollar stable coins. And I think they're hinting at this already in terms of, you know, you have the major social media companies saying, oh, we're investigating stable coins and this, that, and the other thing. And, you know, Besson's very pro on them. And then basically what's the stable coin do? They're going to buy treasury bills. And they'll buy it, whatever yield, Besson offers, they can completely destroy the Fed. You can put, you know, short-term race wherever he wants it.
Starting point is 01:37:32 And now he's got a sink of tens of trillions of dollars that he can essentially fund the U.S. government with until they do some sort of eulcuref control to bring down the long end. Exactly. Until it no longer works, which is probably 10 years or so. But then it will no longer work. I think this is a decent thesis. Well, it's a fascinating one. That's for sure.
Starting point is 01:37:54 And it also could be the, it could end the Fed. but it could also collapse on itself at some point, for some reason, unknown. Oh, easily. And bring the entire world's economy to a halt, at least for a while, because you can't do it forever. But it could become the linchpin of the economy, which would be interesting to see. But I think the angle that you caught, which was the interesting thing that caught my attention, that made me want to listen to the whole thing, which is that, yes, Elon Musk has been talking about making X a all-in does everything for you kind of
Starting point is 01:38:36 monetary market of some sort to compete with while Staplecoin wants to compete with the Fed and with Swift. Enter Russia. Enter Russia. Russia comes back into the fold. Right, which is what we want. We want Russia back in the fold. And then you have Elon wanting to compete.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Pete with PayPal, since he never, he always felt wronged in some funny way because they didn't, didn't do certain things. Well, they kicked him out. They kicked him out of PayPal. That's why he felt wrong. That's whenever people connects Peter Thiel to Elon Musk, like those, there's no love lost between those two. And that's why he spent millions of dollars getting X.com back because he always wanted PayPal to be called X. and they kicked him out probably because he was no good, or at least for not what they wanted.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Well, probably because he's annoying. I think he is good. He's just annoying. But he's got to be annoying. I mean, even Trump figured that out. Yeah. And he's been very quiet. You know, where's his new political party?
Starting point is 01:39:45 And I think he's been ready and, hey, shh, we're going to get you, we're going to make you the stable coin queen. He's been very quiet. Yeah, more or less, and he does, and he lets all the pro-Trump activism goes right through X. No problem, never, you know, doesn't get bumped off or anything. A lot of screwball stuff on X, I have to say. It's fun.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I know. I see you. Someone was like, you're always complaining that you can't get past 100,000 followers, but you're not growing your. account like Dvorak. You're not growing. I'm not growing my account shrunk again. But just the whole concept of you've got to grow your account, man, by posting a lot. That's how you grow your account.
Starting point is 01:40:39 And when do I reap the harvest from this growth? When do I get a... Yeah, well, there's no harvest to be reaped except it's just prestige. Yeah. I would say that I'm going to subscribe. I got a checkmark because of my numbers, but I am going to subscribe to X. Oh. And I'll bet you my number.
Starting point is 01:40:56 go up. Oh, now there's an interesting. Oh, that's very interesting. Yeah, that's what my thesis is. You're going to spend your heart. I've been waiting on it because when it stabilizes, I'm going to subscribe. And then I want to see if my numbers, because my numbers should technically go up. And this will grow your brand.
Starting point is 01:41:14 It'll grow the brand, the Dvorak brand. Yeah, man, grow your account. and your brand. This is beautiful. Well, if you can do it and if it works, I'm all in. Yeah, well, we'll see. It's a test coming up. Coming up, coming up, we're going to, I'll report back.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Just to make sure we don't fall asleep. Breaking exclusive. Breaking exclusive. Breaking exclusive. Missouri AG, Andrew Bailey, being brought in for the future replacement of FBI director Cash Patel. I just love Alex.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Breaking exclusive. Okay. What? Oh, yeah. Well, first of all, he's deputy director, not director. Yeah, they're bringing in two new guys to be co-depity directors. Because as you well pointed out, that was the breaking exclusive on this show. You know, actually, Cash Patel is the director.
Starting point is 01:42:21 I'm sorry. Yeah, he is the director. I know what you're talking about. I think of Bongino. Bongino. Now, Cash Patel, I think like Bongino, he wants to pop out. He's tired of it. He didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:42:31 No, but he's got nothing better to do. Cash Patel? Yeah. He can do. He's got nothing better to do. He's, he can do podcasts. No. No.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Yes. He's no good. People love podcasts. Well, they love podcasts, but he's, you know, you got to have some, some chops. By the way, I need to tell you, my. story. I went to the podcast movement in Dallas. Ah, here we go. Yeah, I went to the podcast movement in Dallas. Was it a bowel movement? No, no. So this is the big podcast industrial complex conference. Were you around when, yeah, I don't know if you were around when. I'm sure
Starting point is 01:43:14 I was around. Well, you were around, but you were alive on this earth. The first, so we had the new media expo, which always took place in, in California, what's that place that sounds like a Canadian place? Ontario, California. And the new media expo, then those guys were very smart. And they said, well, you know, this podcast thing is taken off. Let's call it the podcast conference. And they did their first one in Vegas. And we had pod show at the time. And so I don't know if you were there yet. And they said to me, hey, Adam, would you, would you come and do, uh, you've, you've complained about this for a while.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Well, this upcoming complaint that you're going to discuss. Yes, just to reiterate. Uh, come and do the, um, uh, do the keynote. I'm like, I don't really like doing keynotes, but you invented it. Uh, okay. Oh, okay. I'll, I'll, fine. Um, and they said, okay, I'll, I'll do the keynote. Okay. Can we put you down for a gold sponsorship? I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:44:22 Well, yeah. If you want the keynote, you have to be a gold sponsor, which I think was $10,000 or $15,000. I'm like, no. In fact, I won't charge you for a speaking fee for showing up. They got enough. Like, ma'am, you're not supporting the industry. You got all that VC money.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Now, we did. That's true. You got all that VC money. Yeah, you got VC money, but not the squash. under it. When you give it to keynote, you should be paid to do the keynote, not pay them. Thank you. So, bye, man. Like, no. And that got pretty heated. I said, we're not going to, I'll do your keynote. We're not going to do a sponsorship. Well, then you can't do the keynote. Well, fine. And what we then did is we took our $10,000 and we started an unconference in the hotel
Starting point is 01:45:13 right next door at the pool with chicks and bikinis and drinks. I'm sure you would have remembered if you were there. I would have remembered that so I came later. And it was the podcast unconference and everybody was hanging out. We had the mixed drinks and beer and it did not endear me to the podcast industrial complex. But we were rebels. Rebels, I tell you. So of course, I never got invited to do anything with any podcast industrial complex conference until, gosh, it's now three years ago that podcast. So you were blackballed for being a dick. Correct. Or not playing the game.
Starting point is 01:45:53 But I agree with you. I think you're, I think you stood on proper grounds. You were doing it. You were professional. You don't pay somebody so you can give a speech. Well, I know you haven't done any conference speeches for a while, but that is now pretty much the entire game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Well, that's why one of the reasons I probably haven't done any conference speeches in the last five plus years at least. At least. Because if that's the game, I'm not playing the game. I don't have time for that crap. I have a podcast to attend to. And yes, you do. You need to grow your brand.
Starting point is 01:46:32 You're busy with it. I need to grow my brand on Twitter. You're busy doing things that are very important growing your brand. So three years ago, because of the out-of-the-gate success of the podcast index and there's a lot of noise around podcasting 2.0 and new apps were coming up. They said, well, you know, if you want to do a session, you know, we'll make something available to you. And I said, well, you know, because at this point, I wanted to just meet a lot of these people who've been working on this project. And so we all decided to
Starting point is 01:47:08 meet in Dallas. And they literally put us during lunch in a room way in the back on the third floor. And so with the expected results, it was like 20 people there. And, you know, no signage, no promotion. So it was quite insulting. But that's a good one. Yeah. But it didn't cost money. And we got to meet everybody and hang out for a couple of days. So of course, I vowed I would never do anything. But then one of the participants in podcasting 2.0 sound stack who actually do a lot of hosting and a lot of ad stuff for other podcast hosting companies and they're most known for live 365, live streaming, which is a big part of podcasting 2.0, witness people listening to this on a modern podcast app. Rocky Thomas, she said, hey, Adam, we'll pay for a booth if you'll come
Starting point is 01:48:01 and do a, you know what, just a fireside chat. I was like, that sounds like fun. And I just, and I talked to my buddy Mitch, the Peridontas. He said, yeah, you can use my plane. And so I flew up in the morning and flew back in the afternoon. So I didn't have to stay overnight or drive five hours each way or spend seven hours getting there by commercial. So not too much skin off my bones. And the main thing I was, it was great. It was fun. Talked about no agenda, how awesome we are, value for value, live stream, all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:37 But what was new, and this is something new for conferences, which I was, was. convinced would suck. The way they do it now is they don't have a hundred, you know, all these little rooms where, you know, you can shove 30, 40 people in there and it always smells. You know what I mean? You get like those session rooms and just as smelly and sweaty. Am I right? I never noticed the stench because I never played a small room.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Well, remember, these are podcasters. So these are people who typically sit in their basement. doing a podcast. So. Okay. It makes sense. And then if it's full, you know, people can't, you can stand the back and you can barely move. And so it's no good.
Starting point is 01:49:21 So they have this giant expo hall at the Gaylord in Dallas. And first of all, it's carpeted. And I got to tell you, when it comes to trade shows, carpeting is very important, particularly for people who are walking around all day. It's good. Very thick, nice carpeting. And they had all of the. these stages completely open with chairs in front and plenty of room for people to stand
Starting point is 01:49:46 around. And you think this would be a nightmare with all these different interviews and speeches and keynotes going on. But no, they have, and I guess this is a new thing with conferences. You walk into the expo hall, everybody gets a pair of headphones, wireless headphones. And there's three controls on the headphones, on off, volume button, and then a channel selector and the headphones on the outside turn color, white, blue, red, green, or purple, indicating what channel you're listening to. So we're sitting on stage. We have headphones on. We have hand mics. And we were on the white channel, which I did say was kind of racist. And the whole audience packed. All had headphones on with it. You could see if
Starting point is 01:50:37 someone wasn't listening, like someone's on the red channel. You could, you could, you could rouse them, you could call them out, but no one was doing that. And they all have their headphones on. I thought this was going to be the stupidest thing in the world. Like how lame is this? I got to tell you, it was fantastic. It's like doing a podcast where everybody's on the podcast, only they don't have mics. And they're all listening because you're in their head between their ears. And no one was on their phone, no one was looking down, no one's looking away. It was really revolutionary for the conference business.
Starting point is 01:51:12 I will hand that to them. Sounds terrible. That's what I thought. But it's not. So they had all the stages. It's like an outdoor concert with multiple stages in the same room? Yes. And these guys talking about that's.
Starting point is 01:51:31 And you know, like I walked past a big stage and there was James Crudden was interviewing the guy from coat hanger or goal hanger or whatever it's called. I like coat hanger better. And they're just talking. You never would have been able to hear them from way in the back, but I just put the headphones on, clicked on the red channel. Well, that makes sense. It was great.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Instead of, you know, you can't really hear, people are poorly mic. It's not loud enough. You got feedback. Now, we all could have just stayed at home and be on Zoom, to be honest about it. Well, if you have a good audio, engineer who knows how to stage speakers so there's a delay between the front speaker and the back speaker in such a way that the sounds like what the do you sound like the voice of god when you're speaking up there but nobody has those guys anymore i don't know why they guess they
Starting point is 01:52:23 learned the code i don't know where they went they learned how to vibe code man anyway it was it was very enjoyable um and uh then and then just a bunch of people i knew so everybody's He's going to have ear infections, is what you're telling me. That was kind of the disgusting part. They did not hand out little sanitization kits, you know, but you can just wipe down the, you know, get sweaty, you wouldn't have liked it because, you know, you get ear mold.
Starting point is 01:52:50 You get sweaty ears. I don't need the aggravation of ear mold. So that was the, so welcome all those new people who are listening. Welcome all of the new listeners. In fact, since we talked about it, Why don't we say, in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in cop a disc, ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeMorese, DeMorese, DeMorese, the ground, feed in the air, subs in the water, and the dames of the nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, let me count you for a second, hold out. Well, that is what I call an...
Starting point is 01:53:41 We got 1655. It seems we went down. Yeah, we should have 18. We should have 18 at least. Yes. Okay, well, there you go. Okay. Well, it's probably the stable coin discussion.
Starting point is 01:53:59 No, I don't think it was... No, it's not... No, because... People don't like to talk about things that are that complicated. No, because one hour... and nine minutes ago was the peak at 1655. So that was well...
Starting point is 01:54:12 Then we still have a problem with it? Because people stop coming because they had a problem a couple weeks ago and they still haven't figured out that it's been fixed. Yeah. But people have emailed me and said, hey, it's working again. So we'll have to build that back up. One at a time.
Starting point is 01:54:31 You know what? You should, when you grow your brand on X, you should let people know. bitching about this when I grow my brand. But only when you grow your brand, not before. So yes, many of them are listening at trollroom.io, or they may be on one of those modern podcast apps, which I highlighted at the podcast movement. I would have expected all of you were using them by now, but there were a lot of ooh and ah, oh, when I told them that, you know, when you go live with your podcast, your podcast app will
Starting point is 01:55:02 alert your audience so you can grow your brand. Oh, oh, grow your show. Oh, wow, that's great. And, of course, through the magic of pod ping technology, when we release the show, since you didn't have time or couldn't listen live, within 90 seconds, you'll be notified of that. And you can get those at podcast apps.com.
Starting point is 01:55:23 We are also Value for Value, another topic, much discussed, which is kind of a simple concept, really. It's like we don't want to be interrupted by ads. We don't want to kowtow to the podcast's industrial complex. By the way, the CPMs for those ads, what do you think the CPM is for an ad that's inserted? Dollar? Not quite that, about $350.
Starting point is 01:55:49 Yeah. $350. I mean, and it can only go down. It's not going to go up. No, no. Now, there's a higher CPM, which is cost per thousand for those who are interested. If you read an ad, a host red ad. Post red ad.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Where I would say. Where I would say, no, that can be, they say, up to about 20, but after commissions from everybody, probably you're looking at 13 to the show. And it would go like, you know, John, Phoebe's looking so great. Really? Why, you think? Well, I started feeding her this new food.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Tell me more. It's called Farmer's Dog. dog. Yeah. And people would immediately rush and say, wow, Adam's dog is looking good. I got to get me some of that. And that's how it works. But instead of being total shills, we just ask you to support the show equal to.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Directly. Directly. So all we have is processing fees. No middlemen here besides the obvious processing fees. Yeah. And the thing is, even when you have the middleman, there's, you still have the processing fees. But if you send a check, which we gladly accept, there's a very, there's 15 cents per check. Or if you send cash, like Sironymous of Dog Patch, there's zero processing fees.
Starting point is 01:57:15 There's zero. Actually, there is a cash fee now. No. But they charge you to deposit money into the bank? Yeah. After a certain amount. Same thing with checks. But there's a certain amount of checks, I think it's like a hundred or a couple hundred checks you can do for free, which is really cheap. It's free but then after a certain amount then it goes to the 15 cents no and with cash per dollar per dollar or per chance no it's 15 cents per whatever it's it doesn't no it's a flat fee per check so if you send in a thousand dollars in a check it's 15 cents if you send in five dollars in a check it's 15 cents if you send a dollar in a check it's 15 cents unlike you know the systems out there from everything from visa master care everything is a percentage of the total which is
Starting point is 01:58:06 you know not quite as good a deal right be honest about but yes at some point i don't know what the cutoff is i've never asked but i know i do notice a cash acceptance fee i think you get you get after it gets to a few thousand bucks they start charging you to hey you know what's going to revolutionize this stable that's right i probably not i there's still going to be a fee you think you think The banks are going to let anything like that slide without fees? Dream world. It'll have to be pretty low. But there will be no middle.
Starting point is 01:58:38 How low can it go? 15 cents? It'll be even lower. No. No, they're probably hurting themselves at 15 cents. Oh, maybe. I'm surprised it's that cheap. I think Stripe that we have on the website already accepts stable coin.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I'd love to see the first person donate to the show with U.S. because that's what they accept on Stripe. What's USDC? U.S. digital currency? No, that's the circle stable coin. You have USDT, which is tether. And of course, you'll have USDX, which will be X, and USBF, which will be Facebook. Yeah, USDC is already accepted.
Starting point is 01:59:19 So I was looking at the news. I was going to say trades, but it wasn't in the trades. It was in the news, financial news. The Zell thing has fallen apart. Oh, yeah. The banks hate it for a couple of reasons. Well, the bank that we deal with, the two of us, refused to take it, even though it has gone through. Yeah, because it's basically a wire transfer through an intermediary. But the banks don't like it because there's no take-seys-backsees.
Starting point is 01:59:48 They can't take it back. And if so, what happens, if someone gets a hold of your zeal and they just empty out your bank account, then, you know, you have a very unhappy broke customer and there's no way to get the money back. That's, and it's also cutting into their business. Well, that's the main reason. They don't, I'm sure they care less about your poor problem. Yeah, well, there's a lot of things.
Starting point is 02:00:13 You know, all of these, like Venmo, oh, so Venmo uses plaid middleware. And what Plaid does is it, in essence, you give it your password. I mean, you don't actually give it your password, but you give it permission to be in your account to credit and debit money and look at your stuff. And so what the banks have found
Starting point is 02:00:41 is that Plaid logs into accounts, not just when they're paying or receiving money, but it like 10 times a day. Well, let me see what he's doing now. What is he spending money on here? Oh, look at that. Well, maybe we can sell this to an advertiser. It's sick.
Starting point is 02:00:55 It's gross, really. It's gross. And they do that. Well, we don't use those systems. We use the basic old-fashioned system, the bank itself, cash, PayPal, and Stripe, and now strike. And that's it. We don't have square. We don't do a lot of different ones.
Starting point is 02:01:15 No, no. But they're all out there. But, you know, people say, why don't you do this? Why don't you do that? How much more can we do? Yeah. Don't send blankets or water. Just send your cash.
Starting point is 02:01:28 Anyway. Or a check. Or a check. Yeah, it's great. So you can send time, talent, treasure. You can't actually send time and talent. And by the way, the check goes to Box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530. There you go.
Starting point is 02:01:45 And it should be addressed to the No Agenda Show or me. There you go. Or both. Yes. So we love it when people do things for the show. show, boots on the ground, organizing meetups, helping out with servers, other types of things. That's all very valuable to the show because it saves us direct money of having to pay for those services. And even though we at this point could probably do our own art, I don't think we want to
Starting point is 02:02:12 because, you know, we're just everyone else is doing prompting on the AIs to create artwork for us. Now, obviously, you need to have a good idea, needs to be fun. We like it to be funny if possible. And that's not something artificial intelligence can do. So your creativeness is still highly appreciated. Blue Acorn did the artwork for episode 1791. We titled Bolt Muncher, which is a slur these days for robots and AI systems. And it was all right. I mean, if you had listened to the show, then you got it and you liked it. Had a boomer counting out resistors. on a counter, which I guess is me since I told the story. And there's a robot next to it with a, whose name is clanker.
Starting point is 02:03:04 And it was, it was the best one we had. I mean, there were some others. Well, you like screw worm. I like screw worm. You thought it was, you thought it hit the gross factor and therefore was vetoed by you. Yes, indeed. Yeah, I have a gross factor thing. You both like body double, but that was screwed up by comic strip blogger who didn't put
Starting point is 02:03:23 the effort in. Yeah, if comics or blogger had used AI correctly, AI would have said, oh, your grammar is incorrect. Because we wanted that art. We thought it was great. He could have, he could have X that out in a Photoshop and put in the right grammar. But he, but you're right. He was lazy. It says, your body double. But it should have said, you're a body double. And he didn't do that and was also not aligned properly. So he was lazy. Yeah, it could have. been shifted a little to the right he would have had he would have had he would have won he would have had a winner that that was our first choice it was funny yeah yeah because yeah it was very no agenda very funny and um he was it was uh lazy what can you say by the way on the screw worm thing
Starting point is 02:04:11 i got a from a from a rancher uh rancher austin is his name and he said this whole screw worm thing is a sciop. The sciop to raise the price of beef. And I think he's probably right about that. Could be. Yeah. The narrative that the Mexican herd is over.
Starting point is 02:04:36 But you didn't you get the whole story? Not from me and my conspiracy guys, but your buddy? Yes. You're the famous Texas Slim. Is he being siop? Is that what you're making the claim? No. I'm saying that as we were eating beef and drinking wine, I may have misunderstood where he said,
Starting point is 02:04:55 oh, that whole new new world, new screw worm is a, that's real. And I might have misunderstood his, um, uh, irony that, that the narrative. That's not the way you presented. That was possibly ironic. No, no, that is not the way I presented it. But now that this rancher, uh, says, hey, this is, uh, this is a, this is a, Siop, I'm like, ah, maybe I misunderstood what Slim was saying. So I'm going to call them about that and then get the full detail.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Didn't the Texas Slim also say that the herd count was down and they were having issues? That is true. That is true. Well, that was going to, that would increase the price of beef for sure. Yes. Well, that's mainly because we don't, we just have commodity cowboys and people don't care anymore about ranching and all of the young people are selling their parents ranch because they don't want to pay the inheritance tax.
Starting point is 02:05:51 And it's a pain in the butt. And ranching's hard. And they'd rather learn to code. Code. That's the bottom line. So other pieces of art, yes. I like the screw worm. That was a no.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Was there anything else? I don't think there was anything else that we really... You kind of like your new AI girlfriend, but it was messy by Nessworks. There was a lot of messiness. Yeah, it was messy. And then you also like Putin red carpet, but I'm like, this is another... I did like Putin red carpet because I thought... I thought the cartooning of Putin, the caricature-ish nature of the Putin character walking the red carpet was really pretty good.
Starting point is 02:06:31 It was, but no, you vetoed that. I did. Anyway, that's pretty much the discussion we have every single show day after we're done, after we do the credits, after we do the credits, and then we select the art and then we do the title. That's how it goes. and you just heard the whole conversation in condensed form because we really argue and throw stuff at each other. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:57 So now we'd like to thank the financial, the treasure part of time, talents, and treasure. People have supported us financially. And we had a new promotion, which you launched without even talking to me about it. Although we... I know I've done this a couple of times now. We had discussed it.
Starting point is 02:07:16 I have to do that. It's just an nature of it. Why don't you explain? the uh explain exactly what we did talk about it by the way it wasn't like you completely in the dark because we had discussed on the show the idea of naming uh giving a no agenda secretary generalship yes out to uh as a as a kind of a token uh title and you can be secretary what we and we talked about after the show once too about how to do it and it should be state by state and i decided that's probably not a good idea because it limits people that are in the populace
Starting point is 02:07:50 States. And so I just said it should be open-ended. You can make yourself Secretary General of anything, including the United Nations, under the no-agenda banner, yeah. And so the offering is you can become Secretary General and an executive producer for $500. And you get to pick work with Secretary General of what? And I suggested in the newsletter, Botswana. You can be Secretary General of the United States. You can be Secretary General of Cincinnati. What, it doesn't matter. How about the Hill Country?
Starting point is 02:08:28 Secretary General of the Hill Country. You could be Secretary General of the Hill Country. And it's just it puts that title where it belongs. And now does this come with a certificate of authenticity? Oh, the certificate, yes. Jay, Jay is trying to outdo herself. So the certificates will probably go out at the end of the month because she now wants to
Starting point is 02:08:50 the thing the design's going to be slightly different than our other stuff is always everyone's been somewhat different but this is going to have a big a giant wax seal at the bottom that has the ITM signet ring thing but bigger she's ordered a giant version
Starting point is 02:09:11 does she order a giant ring to make it no it's just it's a stamp cool it's a giant I had to get the art from Paul Couture to her so she could get this thing produced. She found a game. First of all, I got into an argument. No, I don't think it's not a good idea.
Starting point is 02:09:29 For one thing, who's going to make these things? And every time I have a discussion with her, where I tell her it can't be done, within five minutes, she has the vendor. I appreciate, Jay, for this. She's on her phone. Yeah. Okay, can't be done.
Starting point is 02:09:46 Let me say. I found a guy who'll do it for, you know. Now, does she preface it by, or does she end it with Boomer? Does she, oh, I can get that done. No, she knows better. So, yes, I'm looking at the troll room, Secretary of, Secretary General of Boobes. Yes, definitely a possibility. Secretary General of Boobes.
Starting point is 02:10:05 That would be a gem, yeah. Secretary General of Uranus. Yes, all of these are completely valid. They're all valid. They're all valid. All valid. So Steve Miller came in from Alito, Texas. Steve loves us.
Starting point is 02:10:17 and he supported us with $2,500, not stable coins, actual digital money. And here's what he said. We love your fantastic insights and commentary. Is it possible there's still uncertainty whether your 3x3 intro was or wasn't on the dating game? If so, season of reveal, Herb Albert Spanish flea on the dating game. Yes, we did deconstruct that. You must have missed that. Over the last couple of weeks on my drive home from work,
Starting point is 02:10:46 I found each of you making me laugh out loud. With the pathetic donation levels recently, I felt like I might be running out of time to make things right in our relationship. Please deduce me. You've been deduced. And also please deduished my son, Andrew, who hit me in the mouth during COVID.
Starting point is 02:11:07 You've been deduced. And please split my donation to make us both overdue and loyal instantites. Names TBD, ITM, Steve Miller from Alito, Texas. So is he not on the list because he's got a TBD there? Well, he didn't mention Secretary General. Let me just double check. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:11:35 It says he came in at the right time. He can go pick one up later. He's not on the list, so he can definitely pick one up later. Okay, so he's got the name. Okay, we'll knight him when he feels like it. Yes. Peter Fentino's up next, and he's in Eustace, Florida. Eustis, huh?
Starting point is 02:11:54 Sounds right. Came in with a thousand. Whoa. In the morning, boys, first time donation. I've been listening since the election and thought it was time to pony up. My name will be Sir Peter Jockey of the Mountains. Dinner is beef welling to. He's just nighting.
Starting point is 02:12:15 himself yes he wants beef wellington and a shaken dirty martini oh do you want all of that so i got chewed out by one of our our famous more famous uh executive producers oh executive or associate executive yeah that guy yeah all right you are the most one of our most famous and so he says that he was aghast and so was his wife as a matter of fact oh that i had never heard of an espresso martini. And that was rather odd. I don't understand why anyone, why would I have heard of such a horrible drink?
Starting point is 02:12:55 Well, if you get out of the house. I'm from the Bay, San Francisco Bay Area where you have the, where the drink you have, I forget, can I remember the name of it, which is a coffee booze drink that we have in San Francisco. Coffee booze drink. It's called the coffee booze drink. The coffee booze drink. Also known as an Irish coffee, maybe?
Starting point is 02:13:13 An Irish coffee. This is invented. The place in San Francisco, you can go there and get them. And so that's to me, it was, you know, and then there's this espresso martini. It's been around for a long time. Ask the animal. Now, ask era. Hold on a second. Ask her when it came out, when it was invented and where it's been, where it was popular.
Starting point is 02:13:35 The espresso martini. Oh, the espresso martini. It's such a fun drink. Vodka, coffee liqueur, fresh espresso, and a touch of simple syrup, shaken until frothy and served with those iconic coffee beans on top. Here it comes. Ah, I interrupted her. Fun fact, it was invented in the 1980s in London by a bartender for a model who wanted something to wake her up and mess her up.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Fun fact. Fun fact. You haven't been out of the house since the 80s. It makes total sense. Onward. Skyler Firestone. Ah, that sounds like a DJ name. Skyler Firestone in the morning with everybody.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Z-100. That's in Texas, Liberty Hill. 51538. I see no note from Skyler. No, I see nothing. So Skyler will get a double-up karma. You've got. Double-up.
Starting point is 02:14:39 Karma. You can do the next one because I have a note for the one after that. Yes, Sir Ahab from Mandeville, Mandeville, Louisiana, 500, and he's in on the program. Hey, guys, it's Sir Ahab, Night of the Seven Seas. It's been a spell. I'd like to be Secretary General of the Pacific Fleet.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Thanks for all you do. That's a good one. All right. We're going to have to figure out some way to announce these things properly. We do have the people mentioned, but we probably don't have their titles. That's going to, I'm not sure how to do that. have now we have justine palmer in bozeman montano came with 33343 and uh this is interesting because
Starting point is 02:15:23 i i first put her name that this is i have to note and i said to go it over to jay i first thought it was justin and then i went back and looked and i said wait a minute this is not a signature or handwriting of any known male and i look oh justine that makes sense. Wow. You're such a sleuth. Well, the thing is it brought me to this idea that women are more into precision than men. Okay. I'm trying to develop this into some sort of thinking because during World War II when the men were all fighting, the factories of the United States were all people by women, a lot of them. And a lot of them. of them became precision engineers and precision mechanics and all this sort of thing.
Starting point is 02:16:21 And it just fascinates me now that I start to think about it because no, dude, because the women are not credited with this, with this capability. I don't know. I found it interesting. And the note triggered this. But she's, here's her note. Donation note. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:16:39 And then she's got a birthday shout out for Chris Illuminati, a giant. Jensen, a separate explanation, no need to read, but I'm going to read it anyway, because it's about football. Previously you had mentioned you did not receive any clothing, commemorating the most recent college football championship winners from the FBS or FCSD2, et cetera. She knows what all that means. Although you have now received Ohio State representation, and people promised Florida, I never got anything.
Starting point is 02:17:09 I even close some Montana State University Bobcats apparel. which is a nice piece, by the way. After a 15-0 season, unfortunately, the Bobcats fell short of the 2024 FCS National Championship game, but I couldn't pass on the opportunity to send some D1 AAAFCS love your direction. There you go.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Nice. By the way, I concur on precision. I know many female pilots, helicopter pilots especially, who are extremely good. And that's precision work. Yeah, I just think it's there. I think it just dawned on me looking at her handwriting that it was,
Starting point is 02:17:54 it's an underrated characteristic of women in general. Underrated. That's right. Is Mimi still there? Can you compliment her on her precision? No, she crashed a car into a tree. No. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 02:18:09 Are you, though? She's in L.A. She's a good driver. She's an excellent driver. Maybe that's the reason that we mock female drivers because of the... Because they're so good. Because they're... That parallel parking.
Starting point is 02:18:26 A little too precise for a male's taste. Cut in here. Cut in here. No. Not cutting in there. Come on. Cut in. There's a ton of raw.
Starting point is 02:18:35 You blew it. Justin Proul. Prul. P-R-O-L-X. P-R-U-L-X. Proul. The thing is Proul. Prulix or something.
Starting point is 02:18:45 Prulix might be Prulix. It's a funny way I was pronouncing that. I don't have it. Well, he's right up the road about an hour, Canyon Lake, Texas, 33333. ITM, gents, thanks for keeping us grounded with amazing M5M analysis every week. It was time to donate when I received my new Delta Reserve
Starting point is 02:19:00 MX, made with 33% metal from a retired Boeing 747. Well, that sounds like a cool product. Yeah, I'd say. Take a look at this. Unless it's blue, that's because. kind of lame let me see delta reserve amex let me see what it looks like he was some well you're doing that once you give some health karma for the wife yeah she has a broken back she's a broken
Starting point is 02:19:26 back definitely here we go you've got karma it's purple it's purple yeah it's purple yeah it's purple hmm okay up next is bas b a z z or the capital z the first one anyway. 333. Bazz from sunny Singapore. Ooh, look at that. Nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:51 All right, Baz. We need more Singaporeans. Listen to the show. They can all speak English. That's actually on Tina's bucket list, Singapore. She really wants to visit Singapore. Oh, I've been there. Yes.
Starting point is 02:20:03 And I would recommend it as a great place for a vacation. It's extremely safe, super clean. It's a fascist state. You have to know that. You can't spit gum out. You can't, you chew gum. You can, I mean, you can, but you really can't. You have to better swallow it.
Starting point is 02:20:21 It's a, but it's got great food, terrific food. It's pretty and great markets. I would recommend, highly recommend Singapore as a vacation retreat. Is there, is there any, can we get any garments there, custom made garments? You know, I never bought any clothes there. I don't think it's the same, on the, the same league as Korea or Taiwan. Zadok Brown the 3rd in Pukalani, Hawaii, 31585.
Starting point is 02:20:53 And he says, in the morning, gents. And we say in the morning to you, Zadok Brown the third. Thank you. Anonymous in Deckerville, Michigan. He becomes associate executive producer 2677, 26767. Anonymous, ITM. Trump only jobs, karma, please. needed for promotion. God to bless. Jobs, jobs, jobs. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:21:24 And we're on to our next associate executive producer, Kurt Kiefer from Austin, Texas. The Texans are really supporting the show lately. 263.22. And he says, Kurt Kiefer of Austin, Texas, Commodore of Smooth Texas Highways. Gents, my smoking hot, brilliant, free-thinking wife, Beth and I love you guys. We listen to the show live while we're cooking dinner together. It's a fun activity, highly recommended, even for those cheap-ass couples who don't donate to the show. Get a clue, donate.
Starting point is 02:21:57 Anyway, this donation makes me a night. I'm making it on the day before Beth and I embark on a safari to Tanzania. Beth suggested that I get my night donation in before leaving as she thinks the title would look cool on my earn. Should I be... It will look cool on my urn. Should I be trampled by an elephant or mauled by other big game on a trip?
Starting point is 02:22:22 Yes, I concur. How about dubbing me Knight Kurt of the Nongarongo... Nongorongero. No, Nongorongero. Yes. Nightcurt of the Nongarongero crater. If that doesn't roll off the tongue,
Starting point is 02:22:36 perhaps Knight Kurt of the Serengeti. You guys pick. I like the Nongaronga. because it would be fun for me to try. Let's keep it simple for the round table. Zebra Snitzel, Hippo Hot Links, a Pilsner or two, and just one, just one,
Starting point is 02:22:51 Camel Filter Cigarette. Love you guys, the producers, and boobs, says Kurt. Great note, Kurt. Thank you. Camel made, uh, filtered? Yeah, they kind of, they taste icky, what I remember.
Starting point is 02:23:07 Taste a bit like a palm all. James, hmm, James Green, he's in Effland, Eflin, North Carolina, Fland, F-Land, F-U-F-Land, North Carolina, North Carolina, 23399. Adam and John C, I'm a plumber with 25 mass communications with 25 mass communication degree. Go figure. Dirty work for a living and I love it. Thanks for supporting Thanks for reporting on the reporters. Oh, thanks for reporting on the reporters. Does anyone hear Dr. Huckabee in NPR's Alicia Roscoe? Dr. Huckabee.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Yeah, the mom. Huxstabee. Hux to be. Oh, Hux to be. Hux to be. Oh, yes, Hux to be, the Bill Cosby character. His wife. In the way Alicia talks. Dr. Huckabstable. Yes. No, Dr. Huxstable.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Hustible. Wasn't that the wife? No, no, Dr. Huxstable. That was Cosby, wasn't it? Yeah. I thought his wife was the doctor. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:24:12 I don't know. What do we know? Well, when somebody there does know. But, yeah, there's a sound. Alicia Roscoe has, is, I think she just doesn't sound like a professional broadcaster. Isha? Isha. Aisha.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Aisha. Yeah, Aisha. Okay, Aisha. Anyway, suffer and secotash, go Florida ounces. Suffer in succotash. I'm Scott Simon. Sam Trudell is in Green Bay, Wisconsin, 218.92 ITM, he says, I just realized my 33rd birthday is on a show day.
Starting point is 02:24:51 Time to donate. Thanks to Adam W. in Milwaukee for hitting me in the mouth. Please deduced. You've been deduced. And I didn't realize he asked this. He says, I request a Sharped and Hubris. And that's from Sam Trudell. I don't, you know, it's part of one of these medley, so I hope I got it.
Starting point is 02:25:11 Let me say. Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back, or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance. No, that's resist we much. I don't remember what, uh, where hubris is. Hubris. Let me say. I like the guy. I did this, so let me just try. Let me try this. Maybe this one.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Thanks to you, Ed. Is this Crownhog Day 2? We are watching that was Attorney General Eric Holder, ABDs, about some Republicans at home are already beating the drums of war. Today, the Pentecon refuted that claim. And he said the American people do not want him to quote. Quote, dwindling, they do not want him dwindling his thumps. You can get a gig as a court contortionist, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin. Okay, I don't know which one it is.
Starting point is 02:26:22 I'll have to look that one up, sorry. But thank you very much. Eli the Coffee Guy, 20821. There he is. Homotic coffee, by the way. It's interesting how recent diplomatic efforts by America to broker peace have gone unnoticed by the M5M. It's not that interesting.
Starting point is 02:26:44 It's what you expect. Whether as Zerbaijan and Armenia to Cambodia and Thailand, did you see, but the one thing that wasn't reported, did you see the 5,000 Cambodian Buddhist monks? Have you seen this? No. Yeah. A bunch of, like 5,000 of them or more came out.
Starting point is 02:27:06 in a giant group, they took a picture of it, say, we, we nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. Really, Cambodian Buddhist monks. Yeah, like 5,000 of them. Wow. And nobody covered it. I don't want to look that up while you're reading this note. Fox, I think, covered it.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Well, duh. Yeah, look up monks, Cambodian monks, uh, promote Trump for Nobel. And you'll probably find it. Or maybe your buddy there in the office. No, I'm tired of her. She'll know. Anyway, Cambodia, Thailand or India, Pakistan,
Starting point is 02:27:49 this cynic in me questions were these brief flare-ups of conflict manufactured with the purpose of allowing for a U.S. brokered resolution? Seems unlikely we don't have that much power. Or is Trump trying to make peace profitable again? that seems likely. That would be nice. One thing is certain tariffs are increasing the price of coffee imports, but at gigawatt coffee roasters.com, we are dedicated to great coffee at a great price and remember to use code
Starting point is 02:28:19 ITM 20 for 20% off your first order, state caffeinated Eli, the coffee guy. Well, you were wrong. Wrong again. It was not 5,000 monks. It was 70,000 monks. 70,000 monks just broke their vows of silence to nominate Trump for the Nobel. Dear Mr. President Trump, we are standing here today with hearts full of appreciations. Today, 70,000 Cambodian Buddhist monks are wholeheartedly supportive of our Cambodian Prime Minister, Honanate, to nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize. Please, except Mr. President. Seventy thousand monks can't be wrong.
Starting point is 02:29:10 So you got 70,000 monks doing this. There weren't 70,000 there, but I guess they spoke on behalf. There was a lot there. There was a lot of monks. A lot of monks. They're all dressed in red. And this got no coverage. Orange.
Starting point is 02:29:23 Orange. Oh, is orange? I remember. They might have been Harry Krishna. I don't know, man. Whatever the case. They're all bald. Yeah, they were bald for sure.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Sure. And they, it was weird enough as news and just a visual was screwball enough. Yeah, it was good visual, definitely. You'd think somebody in the mainstream media in New York, anybody would have taken a picture and run it in their paper. No, nobody except Jesse Waters even mentioned it. Yeah. That's pathetic. Certificate, we've got a couple more associate executive producers here, certificate, $200 and 42 cents.
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Starting point is 02:32:39 A little bit of a climate change news Since this is up from Washington State Two months ago I don't know if you caught this news Or maybe Mimi heard about it and told you The first hybrid electric ferry is about to rejoin the fleet. After nearly two years out of the water,
Starting point is 02:33:05 the ferry Wenatchi is undergoing sea trials. Vigur Marine says the historic conversion is complete. They swapped two diesel generators out for batteries and installed a new propulsion system. The Wenatchie will rejoin the Seattle Bainbridge run and welcome back passengers once sea trials are complete. All right, so we've got a battery-powered ferry. What could possibly go wrong?
Starting point is 02:33:28 Two months later. Washington State Ferries, has pulled its newly renovated hybrid electric ferry from service less than one month since the big renovation. We're told the Wenatchi had a mechanical issue yesterday while docking at Coleman dock. It's not clear exactly what that issue was or how long it'll be out of service. The Wenatchie was added to the Seattle Bainbridge route in July after its conversion to hybrid electric power. Yeah. Of course. What could possibly go wrong? Battery powered ferries. It's just not a good idea, people. You put
Starting point is 02:34:00 especially those explosive batteries in the water. Sea water environment. Yeah, that's a smart move. Yeah, what? It's such a bad idea. You know, there was a Peter Thiel, we talked about him earlier, co-founder, he's from the PayPal Mafia and of course
Starting point is 02:34:15 funder of killing machines like Palantir, which although we have a lot of testimony to the contrary, people believe that Palantir runs the world and is tracking your every move. They certainly have been successful at some government contracts and very unsuccessful at targeting terrorists in Palestine because they killed a lot of the wrong people, but that doesn't
Starting point is 02:34:42 matter because Peter Thiel is a force to be reckoned with. And the New York Times interviewed him about a month ago, and I paid no attention to it. I saw it come by in my feed, but the guy is so annoying. to listen to because he's like Sam Altman. Yeah, it seems that the entire PayPal Mafia talks like. Musk is the same way. But Altman wasn't part of the PayPal Mafia, wasn't it? No, I know, but this seems like the PayPal Mafia all talks that way.
Starting point is 02:35:16 I think it's a Silicon Valley tech bro thing. Just to sound interesting, like, I'm deep in thought about it. And he is a transhumanist, as you will hear in a moment. He's trans? Well, he's gay. And you remember his boyfriend fell off the balcony and died in Miami a year or so ago? Yeah, it was kind of a bad, bad vibe. You know, fell off the balcony.
Starting point is 02:35:52 But he's, the New York Times guy sits down with him and he starts asking him about transhumanism. approaches it from a very innocuous way, really, about, you know, do you think the human race should survive, or do you think that your machine should run everything? And it took an unexpected turn. You would prefer the human race to endure, right? You're hesitating. And I should mention, I cut out a lot of the five-second pauses.
Starting point is 02:36:22 You would prefer the human. The two of us both like to brag about our editing skills. It doesn't take a lot of skill because you look at the way form. It doesn't take a lot of skill to see. Look at all this white space. Just cut it out. You would prefer the human race to endure, right? You're hesitating.
Starting point is 02:36:38 Well, I, yes? I don't know. I would, I would, um, this is a long hesitation. There's so many questions. Should the human race survive? Yes. Okay. But, but, uh, I, I also would, um,
Starting point is 02:36:56 I also would like us to radically solve these problems. And so, you know, it's always, I don't know, you know, yeah, transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal was this radical transformation where your human natural body gets transformed into an immortal body. And there's a critique of, let's say, the trans people in a sexual context or, I don't know, transvest. diet is someone who changes their clothes and cross dresses. And a transsexual is someone where you change your penis into a vagina. And we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more trans. Yeah, you should have debated that. How well did those surgeries work, Peter? Where you change your penis into a vagina. And we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more transformation than that. The critique is not that it's weird and
Starting point is 02:37:56 unnatural. It's, man, it's so pathetically little. And, okay, we want more than cross-dressing or changing your sex organs. We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole body. And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way, the critique Orthodox Christianity has of this is these things don't go far enough. Like that transhumanism is just changing your body, but you also need to transform your soul and you need to transform your whole self. What? I must alert Pastor Jimmy. He's not going far enough. We need to transform our bodies. It's, it's Christianity. You can imagine this got my attention. And let's dive in, shall we? I generally agree with your, what I think is your beliefs? He agrees? With his beliefs. Yes. Oh, yeah. This is the New York
Starting point is 02:38:53 times that religion should be a friend to science and ideas of scientific progress i think any idea of divine providence has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and achieved and done things that would have been unimaginable okay stop right there this is great first of all interviewer should not be agreeing well not agreeing or disagreeing but this guy's gone beyond agreeing and disagreeing he is now expressing himself Yes, he's from the Sparkle. We came to listen to Peter Thiel and what he thinks, not with some reporter from the New York Times
Starting point is 02:39:34 who's, you know, made a mess of his life where he wouldn't be there for at his age. Yeah. We don't care what you think. Well, this guy, I think, is a member of the Sparkle clergy because he's like, oh, yeah, no, I agree, yeah. Anything that we do is God's, I plan. And providence has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and achieved and done things that would have been unimaginable to our ancestors. But it still also seems like, yeah, the promise of Christianity in the end is you get the perfected body and the perfected soul.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Oh, shut up. He's laying out his Bible smack, man. Let him go. What you hear Teal say is better. This guy's just there. The promise of Christianity in the end is you get the perfected body and the perfected soul through God's grace and the person who tries to do it on their own with a bunch of machines is likely to end up as a dystopian character. In hell! Well, it's, let's articulate this.
Starting point is 02:40:43 And you can have a heretical form of Christianity, right, that says something else. I don't know. I think the word nature does not occur once in the Old Testament. Okay. The word nature does not appear once in the Old Testament. Okay. I guess you could call creation, heavens and earth, the world. If you don't want to call it nature, okay, that's a point of discussion.
Starting point is 02:41:11 But I think there's a New Testament where it appears quite a bit, especially the term against nature. I think the word nature does not occur once in the Old Testament. And so, you know, if you, you know, and there is, you know, there is a word in which a sense in which, the way I understand, you know, the, you know, the Judeo-Christian inspiration is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is about transcending nature. It is about, hold on, he's almost done. So the way I understand, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the Judeo-Christian, inspiration is it is it is it is it is about transcending nature it is about overcoming things and you know and the closest thing you can say to nature is that people are fallen and that that's the natural thing in a Christian sense is that um you're messed up and that's true but um you know there's
Starting point is 02:42:11 some ways that uh you know with God's help you are supposed to transcend that and overcome that well I now link arms with the Peter Thiel haters of the world. This guy is a ghoul. He's a complete, all of his government contract should be ripped up. What an idiot. And the New York Times guy is not much better. No, the New York Times guy's worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:36 It's just unbelievable. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure. Okay. Yeah. Well, nice interpretation, Peter Thiel. Well, that was a trip down nowhere. Well, I thought it was quite interesting.
Starting point is 02:42:47 personally. Let's go to what Tulsi Gabbard's up to. Yeah, she's doing a couple of things, isn't she? I think she has to be the intelligence communities, at least the bad actors in the intelligence community. They've got to be worried. Worse nightmare. Yes. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announces today that she's cutting her department by more than 40% to quote root out deep state actors. She says the move will make the department more efficient and save taxpayers north of $700 million per year. The news comes just after she wrote security clearances for 37 intelligence officials, accusing them of politically weaponizing intelligence.
Starting point is 02:43:30 NTD's Washington correspondent, Jack Bradley. How's some more. Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard strips security clearances from 37 current and former intelligence officials. She also terminated any government employment or contracts for them. Gabbard said that she's doing this at the direction of President Trump, and she didn't disclose any specific acts that led to the losses of clearance for each person, but said that more generally, they were part of a political weaponization of the intelligence community, leaking classified information and bypassing normal procedures, particularly in creating a false intelligence report that accused Trump of colluding
Starting point is 02:44:07 with Russia in the 2016 election. They were not happy with the outcome of that election, and so they created this politicized, weaponized piece of fake intelligence that they aided and abetted in this action, this seditious conspiracy that undermined our democracy, undermined our republic. These are bad actors that have to be rooted out. Yeah, I think this is pretty good what she's doing here. And I think that's why she was hired was to do this stuff. I think so. She has a bad attitude. She's not. going to put up with anything. Well, bad attitude. She's not like a bureaucrat that's in it just for the, you know, so she can
Starting point is 02:44:51 pick up a, pick up a retirement check income. No, no, she's got. Yeah. I'm kind of liking this Tulsi business. And it's still not being picked up by, I'm sorry, it's still not being picked by the mainstream. You know, they still keep bringing out people like Susan Rice and they bring out these other people and people I know around here, the Democrats around here that I know that, Oh, yeah, well, it's a known fact that Russia colluded with Trump. I don't care what they say. Yeah, yeah, that's California. In announcing the move on X, she said that a security clearance is a privilege, not a right.
Starting point is 02:45:28 Those who betray their oath to the Constitution and put their own interests before the interests of the American people have broken the sacred trust they promised to uphold. Those who lost their security clearances can no longer access classified facilities and information. Back in July, Gabbard said that the intelligence community did assess that in the months leading up to the November 2016 election, Russia was trying to interfere in the U.S. presidential election by sowing discord and chaos, but repeatedly stating that Russia didn't appear to have a preference for either candidate and viewed both equally bad for Russia's interest. She then said that in December 2016, then President Obama called for another intelligence assessment to contradict it, and clearly, that Russia did interfere in Trump's favor. There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. But Gabbard said that they used substandard intelligence, bypassing normal procedures,
Starting point is 02:46:32 and used the steel dossier as a source for the newer assessment. The steel dossier is now widely considered to have been discredited. weren't they supposed to start the depositions on the 19th? I mean, do we even know if that started at all? Well, you know, nothing's going to come of any of this, except the people that lost their security clearances are probably going to have to go find work someplace else, and, you know, who knows where. And that's going to be all that's going to happen. They won't. The Republicans are not vindictive enough to actually take action.
Starting point is 02:47:10 No, they're not. And by the way, the CIA, and you know, an old report has resurfaced, and I put it in the show notes. 1957, a 200-page report proposing that American special forces should secretly infiltrate Ukraine, spark uprising, and destabilize the Soviet Union from within. This has been a plan by the CIA and Western. And it was actually, they did it with the, with the Brits. And there was an update to this plan in 2014. I mean, come on. It was so obvious.
Starting point is 02:47:49 The outrage should be that we started all this nonsense in Ukraine. We don't. The reason they just, that's another thing that mainstream media will not do, which is give us the straight scoop on this stuff. They just can't. They're working, they're not working for the people. Unlike us, we work for you. We work for the people.
Starting point is 02:48:13 We do. We work for the people. NPR did have a, I think I have a 56 seconds, NPR had this story. President Trump's chief spy, Tulsi Gabbard, says she'll cut her agency's budget by over 40% by the end of 2025. Is she the chief spy? Is that really? Technically. Technically.
Starting point is 02:48:36 NPR's Jenna McLaughlin... She's not really a spy. You know, that's the thing. She's not a spy in the sense of what a spy is. But it sounds cool. She is a bureaucrat. Yes. That heads up all the spies and analysts. She's the chief spy. NPR's Jenna McLaughlin reports. Career intelligence officials say their mission is to speak truth to power. However, the former Democratic lawmaker turned head of the office of the director of national intelligence.
Starting point is 02:49:03 Wait a minute. Since when is that their job? Listen to that again. 2025. NPR's Jenna McLaughlin reports. Career intelligence officials say their mission is to speak truth to power. That's bull crap. That's not their mission to speak truth to power. It's to subvert other powers and other nations and other leaders.
Starting point is 02:49:25 It's not their mission. However, the former Democratic lawmaker turned head of the office of the director of national intelligence, or ODNI, has expressed her commitment to aligning the agency with President Trump's policy. goals. The OD and I was created after the September 11th terrorist attacks to foster intelligence sharing between U.S. government agencies. Gabbard says she'll slash the agency's cost by over 40% by the end of September, though she didn't identify specific cuts. In a statement, the Democratic Vice Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner of Virginia, says he would welcome the chance to review Gabbard's plans, but expresses concern arguing Gabbard has a track record of politicizing intelligence. And you're listening to NPR. What? What? What? What track record?
Starting point is 02:50:10 Listen again. Welcome the chance to review Gabbard's plans that expresses concern arguing Gabbert has a track record of politicizing intelligence. And you're listening to NPR. A track record, I tell you. What track record? She just got this job recently. She's been in office six months. A track record assumes you've been doing something for years and years. Track record, baby. When you use it in a political sense, when you say track record. Track record. I'm telling you. Track record. Well, NPR, just since you mentioned this bull crap about truth to power, play this little clip.
Starting point is 02:50:44 This is an off-the-wall clip. This is the science clip I have here. Where is it? Define. This is NPR Define. Now, you've, I don't know if you can define science. You can ask the robot there that your buddy. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:51:02 I'm not going to define science. But listen. Listen to the definition of science. From NPR. Science, mind you. Science. Science. Science. Shortway thinks of science as an invisible force, showing up in your everyday life. Wait, start it over.
Starting point is 02:51:20 Okay, here we go. Shortwave things of science as an invisible force showing up in your everyday life. Carrying the food you eat, the medicine you use, the tech in your pocket. is approachable because it's already part of your life. Come explore these connections on the shortwave podcast from NPR. So what exactly did they just say? They said science is a force. A force.
Starting point is 02:51:50 Some sort of force that... Some sort of force. I'm going to read the definition of science. It's like the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. That's it. That's what science is. It's not a force.
Starting point is 02:52:11 It's a force. It's a force to be reckoned with. Shut up already. It's science. It's science. Yes. Well, let's talk about it. This is NPR promoting the idea of science.
Starting point is 02:52:20 This way you believe the science. Believe the force, Luke. Believe the force. Well, let's talk about some science for a moment with Dr. Celine Gounder. Turning to your health, there's news tonight that the maker of Ozzympic is cutting the price nearly in half for some patients. The company had already cut the price of Wagovi, a similar medication approved for weight loss. Dr. Sling Gounder is here with more on the emerging price competition over these drugs.
Starting point is 02:52:47 So what is driving this price for, Dr. John, the race is on. Novo Nordisk has dominated early on with their drugs, Ozempic and Wagovi. But now Eli Lilly, with their drugs, Manjaro and Zepbound, are catching up fast thanks to lower prices. and strong supply. So it's really about Novo Nordisk trying to regain take back market share. Specifically, Novo has said this is targeted at patients with type 2 diabetes who do not have insurance. Now, I don't know how many patients don't have insurance who can afford $500 a month, but that is the target audience. Yeah. Well, we know that it's not about that. We know that you're being paid to shill for weight loss drugs. So, and are they competing just on price or is there any other thing
Starting point is 02:53:32 they compete on? Well, they also compete on effectiveness. So there was a head-to-head study published in the New England Journal of Medicine looking at these two companies' drugs head-to-head over 72 weeks, people on the Lilly drug lost about 20% of their body
Starting point is 02:53:48 weight compared to 14% body weight lost with those on the Novo Nordisk drug. So there is a difference there, and the degree of improvement in blood pressure, diabetes, cholesterol, was commensurate with proportional to the of weight loss.
Starting point is 02:54:03 And we have a new side effect of these drugs. Yeah, I saw this. A new side effect known as Ozempic Volvo. Oh, I don't know about that. I was thinking of the positive things are going on. Well, I'll tell you about this. The Ozimpec vulva is sagging caused by loose labia, loose skin in the vaginal area,
Starting point is 02:54:27 wrinkles, or some combination of all three, if you're lucky. Dude. Oh, God. Dude. You had positive news from them? You had positive news? Yeah, apparently it's a cure for baldness. Oh, well, well, good news, ladies, you won't go bald.
Starting point is 02:54:46 Bad news. Bad news, you'd be dragging on the ground. We have an update. Of course, we need to discredit our health and human services secretary and everybody that he's hired. Back to school. This is an often means making sure your child is up to date on vaccinations. That's what it means. Just remember, back to school means get your shots. That's what back to school means, yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:11 It used to mean... Back to school suddenly means get vaxed. It used to mean, you know, like get your books, you got to put covers on your books, you got to get your eraser. No, no, no, not anymore. Your backpacks. Back to school means getting back. Get backs. And why are we going back to school so soon?
Starting point is 02:55:27 But that's another topic. Back to school season often means making sure your child. is up to date on vaccinations, a step most schools require before students can attend. In the past, parents could rely on a single authoritative schedule from the CEC. But this year, the American Academy of Pediatrics has released its own vaccine schedule, and it's different from the governments. CBS News Medical contributor, Dr. Celine Gounder, is here to explain. Dr. Gounder. Explain. What is this?
Starting point is 02:55:55 What was the laugh tale? Oh, did you hear the laugh tell? Yeah, let's listen again. CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Salim Gounder, is here to explain. Dr. Gounder. Oh, yeah, here it is. There it is. Oh, he's laugh telling because, you know, he's like, this stupid RFK Jr., I mean, we can't trust them anymore.
Starting point is 02:56:17 So what are we going to do? Dr. Gounder, explain. What is this, what's the discrepancy here? Yeah, so for the first time in decades, pediatricians are putting out their own schedule because they no long. longer trust. Stop the clip. Stop in the clip. Because I can, I'm going to predict the direction of this clip. Surely you just, Mr. DeVorek. She's going to go on with her assertion. And then Dickerson, who is an old pro, knows what he's doing as a top journalist is going to say, well, isn't it
Starting point is 02:56:51 true that the pediatricians have a conflict of interest because they're paid direct money, direct cash money to make sure all their patients have all these vaccinations and it's a big huge bonus and part of their income. It's very important to them. So they're conflicted. Don't you agree with that? Dr. Gounder? Let's see if you're right. Yeah. So for the first time in decades, pediatricians are putting out their own schedule because they no longer trust the government's process. So the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee, folks may remember, was recently overhauled. All members were dismissed. And almost everyone who replaced those experts is somebody who has spread disinformation about vaccines or has expressed vaccine skepticism. This has never happened under a
Starting point is 02:57:38 previous Democratic or Republican administration that the process would be politicized in this way. And so the American Academy of Pediatrics is saying, look, we want to stick to the science. We don't want to politicize process. So now all of a sudden we have to stick to that science. but from the very same people who have given your kids riddling, who have told your kids that, oh, you know, they've told you. Well, it's better to have a daughter who's alive or son who's alive than a daughter who's dead. The very same people. The Academy.
Starting point is 02:58:12 Oh, I want to thank the Academy. Oh, but what's a parent to do, doctor? So if I'm a parent and I want to know what to do. Wait, wait, stop. He didn't ask the question that I surmised? No, funny. He didn't ask a probing question, a valid question that would actually make some sense and educate the public that they're trying to serve?
Starting point is 02:58:34 Or are you, this is not serving the public. This is serving the advertiser. So if I'm a parent and I want to know what to do, fine, you guys squabble. What is what is a parent to do? Don't do your own research. Yeah, so the main area where the American Academy of Pediatrics diverges so far with the CDC, The CDC is no longer recommending routine COVID vaccinations for healthy children. Pediatricians, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, strongly disagree with that.
Starting point is 02:59:04 And they are saying that all infants between the ages of six months and two years should be receiving a COVID vaccine. The bottom line is that the risk in infants is quite high. And the first encounter with COVID should be with the vaccine and not the virus. Duh. Are you kidding me? Listen to that ending again. That's very interesting what she says here. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:59:31 Bottom line is that the risk in infants is quite high, and their first encounter with COVID should be with the vaccine and not the virus. Their first encounter with COVID should be with the vaccine. What, does the vaccine give you COVID? Yeah, well, duh. But more importantly, why doesn't he ask her to clarify? when she says, which we know not to be true, that the risk for infants and kids is high for catching COVID. Why doesn't he say, John Dickerson say, what exactly is the risk?
Starting point is 03:00:07 How many times are you going to pose this question pretending that you don't know this is a bought and paid for advertisement? We know this. This is obvious. He's not a journalist. He is a pitch man. And they did this same segment that was the evening news. they did it on the morning show. In this morning's Health Watch, as kids are going back to school, there's new guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics recommending that children from six months to two years old get a COVID shot. Now, this contradicts the Centers for Disease Control
Starting point is 03:00:36 under Health and Human Services Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., which does not recommend COVID shots for any healthy children. CBS News Medical contributor, Dr. Celine Gounder, is editor-at-Large for Public Health at KFF Health News, and she joins me now. Good morning. Good morning. All right, so why is the American Academy of Pediatrics made this recommendation? I think it's important to note that even before the American Academy of Pediatrics made this recommendation,
Starting point is 03:01:00 there was a group brought together called the Vaccine Integrity Project, which includes some of the nation's top experts in vaccine science, as well as representative from the professional medical societies. They combed through all of the evidence since the last CDC review of vaccines to bring their recommendations up to date. and that review is what informs the American Academy of Pediatrics's newest recommendations. And that affirms that the vaccines are safe and effective. Children or infants, really, between the ages. Is she talking about the fee schedule?
Starting point is 03:01:33 Yes, it's safe and effective and profitable. Six months and two years are those at highest risk for complications from COVID, whether that's hospitalization, ICU, because they have smaller airways, their immune systems are not fully developed. And by the way, under two, we may. may not even know if they have immunocompromising or other underlying medical conditions that put them at risk. That's right. Jab. If they're under two, jab them up. And the same script comes out again. All right. So parents are stuck in the middle because this guidance conflicts with the CDC's. What are you to do as a parent? What am I going to do?
Starting point is 03:02:05 I'm not vaccinating. I'm so confused. You've confused me, CBS people. I'm children against COVID. So who should parents listen to? The science. I mean, look, the American Academy of Pediatrics. represents over 67,000 pediatricians across the country. These are the people who actually see these children every day. And catch the checks. Unfortunately, the federal guidance has now been shaped by politics and ideology.
Starting point is 03:02:32 Some people will try to confuse them. Wow. Wow, lady. Wow. Politics and ideology. What's the ideology here? What's the ideology? This is, these people are not serving the public. You pointed it out. And they will say that high quality studies, are flawed. They will call for gold standard science, which is in reality, garbage science. Wow. And they will say that this is about putting commercial interests ahead of public health. When in fact, this is putting commercial interests ahead of public health. Yes, exactly what you're doing. And they will say that this is about putting commercial interests ahead of public health.
Starting point is 03:03:12 When in fact, this is the first stop, stop, stop. What specifically, I'm sure this guy will ask, but what specifically are the commercial interests that she's talking about that they're putting ahead of public health? Who is who is profiting from, what commercial interest is profiting from not giving a kid a COVID shot? Well, if you listen, if you listen to this, she's saying that they, are saying, i.e. RFK Jr., the way I understood it, RFK Jr. is saying you're putting commercial interests ahead of health, and that would be twofold. One, the doctors who are getting compensated. No, I thought she said that they're, that the RFK position. Let's listen. Okay. They will call for gold standard science, which is in reality, garbage science. And they will say that this is about putting
Starting point is 03:04:13 commercial interests ahead of public health. They will say that this is about putting commercial interests ahead of public health. The commercial interests are the commercial... The shot guys, yeah. And Celine Gounder with her advertisement for Big Pharma right here on CBS. When in fact this is the first administration
Starting point is 03:04:32 Republican or Democratic to have politicized vaccine recommendations in this way, ever. Politicize, politicize. What's the I don't get the politics part. Well, she's politicizing it. This is all what you say by yourself. And there was a third bit here to this morning segment
Starting point is 03:04:48 that I could not resist clipping for us. The vaccine advisory community recently limited use of a preservative called thermosol. Yeah, it's thimerosol, you dork. Thermosol. Thermat thermostat. The vaccine advisory community recently limited use of a preservative called thermosol, and is now looking at other chemicals and vaccines. Why are these part of the vaccine?
Starting point is 03:05:16 What's their use? So thimerosol is a form of mercury. Now, people hear mercury and they think, oh, that's dangerous. We're talking about a specific form of mercury, ethyl mercury, which is not the dangerous form. The dangerous form is methyl mercury with an M, so M. And routine childhood vaccines have actually been thimerosol free for years now. So it's not really even an issue. Now, what do you think she'll say next? What do you think she'll say next? by the way the methyl mercury i got to i have some quibbles about that any mercury salt is bad please quibble away i want to hear ethel mercury versus methyl mercury mercury is a bad actor but any mercury
Starting point is 03:05:57 salt elemental mercury is not bad necessarily unless it can be metabolized in some way but it generally can't but any salts the salts are the things that the body can absorb and then cause poisoning And what is the thimerosol used for? It's used for preservatives. Preservatives. But now wait for it. So big picture, if you're going to worry about methylmercury, worry about broken thermometers and those skin lightning creams, not about the vaccines. Now, aluminum is another one, Kennedy, has also been concerned about.
Starting point is 03:06:32 Aluminum nudges the immune system so that you get a longer-lasting, more robust immune response with fewer doses. So that's a bonus. and there's no evidence that it's harmful. No evidence. Aluminum. Do you think that's a good thing to have in your vaccines? No.
Starting point is 03:06:50 And they use it, what she didn't say is it's an adjuvant. Yeah, she didn't use the term. It kind of tickles your immune system, you know, to get you going. Yeah, because it's toxic. Yes, that's exactly why. These people, oh, man, oh, man. Well, you can talk all you want. You're blue in the face.
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Starting point is 03:21:18 And if you can't find where near you, start one yourself at noagendametups.com. You want to be where you won't be Drink it all hell's lame You want to be where everybody knows your game It's like a party Now before you get to John's tip of the day We always like to show you how the sausage is made in Medialand And we're going to do a little production meeting here
Starting point is 03:21:51 And we're going to select the end of show ISO I actually have a lot of ISOs for today so I'm going to roll through all of them and then we'll, do you have an ISO at all? I have two that are probably, if you have a lot, you'll probably have a killer. Okay, let's see what we have. I'm about to lose my mind.
Starting point is 03:22:12 Okay, all right. No, okay, no, ejects. This is not a children's program. Wow, we love the voice. Yeah. This is not my little pony. I kind of like that one. I do too.
Starting point is 03:22:27 authenticity and truth a little hollow but okay these guys are completely natural and here we go with this uh you know we we get into it deep and then the final one everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring and that's what i got so i think we both i'll keep it up here i think we no we're just bump in mind to the next show we like these this is not my little pony I kind of like that one. You're bumping your... We have to go with that. Okay.
Starting point is 03:23:01 Well, you've got a lozange and we're putting your ISOs in abeyance, which means... I'm in a lozenge in mode. It's time, everybody, for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with J.C. Okay. And sometimes at all. All right.
Starting point is 03:23:22 For everybody out there, it should be a gardener. If they're not, they should have potted plants somewhere in them. You should be a gardener or just learn how to code. So the tip of the day are terra-cotta watering spikes. You can just Google it, terra-cata watering spikes. They have them all over the place to sell them there. It looks like a giant carrot. And you fill them with water and they water the plant.
Starting point is 03:23:50 You put a bottle of water in the top hole and, you know, water plants without you having to attend to him in case you're on vacation you take a week off uh you go someplace for the weekend you have a plant that needs watering this takes care of it is a very good tip how does it function well it turns out that it it leaks there's all these different mechanisms for watering plants so what you don't because most people get on amazon they'll buy some uh internet of things connected watering hose thing you don't want that you don't want to that why do we not want that because what happens if the net goes down what happens if you have your rotary boots this nonsense just have some simple device a terra kata T-E-R-R-A-C-O-T-T-A
Starting point is 03:24:41 watering spike it's old school there's a bunch of people to make them and then once you want to look like a carrot and you can stick up you you soak them first and stick them in the ground and then stick a water bottle in the top filled water and it'll drain as the as the Soil gets dry, it'll leak out the water very slowly and keep the plant from dropping dead. Huh. That is a very good tip. I like that. That is cool.
Starting point is 03:25:10 That's an old school animal. How long will it last? I mean, how much water do you, how long will the water last from the bottle that you put into it? I don't know. I've never run out of water. You've never been out of the house for more than three hours. I don't go out of the house. I stay here.
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Starting point is 03:27:36 This was straight out of Putin's playbook. Well, we know this is playbuns, playbuns, playbuns, playbuns, playbuns, playbuns, playbun, playbun, playbuck. Russian playbushin, Russian, playbush, and the Russian philosophy, the Russian playbook will not change. So I think that is the Russian playbook. It is part of the Russian playbook. The tactics look familiar, like a page from Russia's playbook. because of what he called Russia's playbook on murdering people. Clearly Russia benefits the most from this, and it does fit the Russian playbook.
Starting point is 03:28:17 The Russian play, Russian, play, Russian, Russian play, Russian play, Russian playbook. Russian playbook. Russia's playbook. But what Putin is doing in Ukraine is actually straight out of the Russian military planner's playbook. Putin's playbook. When the Republican Party adopts Russia's authoritarian playbook, distinguished guests, and men and women of the finest military in the world. Most of all, Admiral Mullen, Deborah, Michael and I, Michael and I.
Starting point is 03:29:07 Oh, my gosh. She's a what? She's a what? She's a what? You know, Michelle is a transgender. We all know. Oh, my gosh. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 03:29:34 It's okay. Oh, my gosh. That's a conspiracy theory. Oh, my gosh. That's a conspiracy theory. He's a conspiracy theorist. He's a conspiracy theorist. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a conspiracy
Starting point is 03:30:01 theorist Oh my gosh That's a conspiracy theory It's a conspiracy theory It's not true The Cast in the universe. Adios.
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