No Agenda - 1795 - "Dead Feathered"

Episode Date: August 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Physical activity is now a medical condition. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, August 31st, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1795. This is no agenda. Working on a holiday and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I keep wondering why X or Twitter keep sending me
Starting point is 00:00:29 ads to use butter on ice cream. I'm Johnson DeVorek. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. Wait a minute. So you're getting ads to use butter? Ads? What is the ad for if it's an ad? I don't click on it. I refuse to click on it.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It's stupid. It keeps it has a little, it's an obvious ad. It keeps cropping up. Oh, here's why you should put butter on ice cream. I'm sure other people have seen this. I'm surprised. I have, I don't see any. ads on X. Are you paying not to get ads? No, no, I got the blue check mark just because of my status.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I got the blue check mark. I get ads. You know, so here's what I get on X, all right? So, you know, whenever I fire off the bat signal, I send out the tweet and I boost the toad and I slash the X and I whine on the blue cry. And then, you know, I go to X because Darren always has a cute way of retweeting or reposting, whatever we call it. And so I'll repost his repost.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And right there's from Crumulent Corpse, a one-liner. You make this show my favorite hateless and you insufferable douche. John's great though. Yeah. That's insufferable douche. That's a great line. I've gotten some amazing messages.
Starting point is 00:01:53 This is another one from Jeff. Adam, I've been listening to your show. week for at least 10 years and been donating $15 a month for at least 10 years with auto pay. You obviously have my full attention. If you're, this is a true value for value person. I guess so. I finally need to give you this feedback. Please stop using terms like bull crap.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I'm the one who does that. That's me. Just swear and talk like normal people talk. It is... Swear, we try to avoid that. It is unlikely that young kids are listening to. to your show. It completely... That's not true. We know for a fact that young kids listen to the show, a lot of disease. It completely dulls the tone when you sanitize language in that
Starting point is 00:02:39 way. And it sounds forced and awkward. Hey, I'm telling you, this guy is friggin' nut. Every other podcasts out there uses colorful language, which is part of the fun of podcasts. John sneaks in an F-bomb once in a while, and honestly, it's refreshing. I don't even know why I show up to the show. it seems like you're the guy you're just the guy everybody loves you you're the guy you get to a certain age you know yeah that's what it is you're getting there yeah i'll be 61 on uh wednesday wednesday if you need to know yes wednesday thank you thank you thank you wednesday yes on wednesday yes wednesday you will be 61 so we went to a uh a birthday party um yesterday, which was actually
Starting point is 00:03:29 it was quite cool. There's this new wine. There's a new winery and they have a tasting room called B-U-L-I. Now the guy's a New Yorker, but I think he lives in in Tuscany, at least half of the time, maybe full-time has a vineyard there, but they're Texas wines,
Starting point is 00:03:49 you know, the typical Temprenio, etc. And it was a birthday party for the burger heiress. We've talked, have we talked about the burger heiress? Yeah, well, I think we talked about it after the show. Oh, well, the bird is the problem that we discussed about talking about stuff. Yes, the he's the heiress to, um, Burger King. Burger King, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:11 She was, she literally grew up in. I'll jump right in when I, when you need me. She literally grew up in the home of the whopper. And, uh, and her dad, uh, I don't think he started it, but he commercialized it. So this same guy who owned the Miami Dolphins and I don't. So anyway, she's, she's very sweet. She and her Cajun husband, and she just turned 70. And by the way, her birthday is also on September 3rd.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So we have a kinship. And I was like, I'm looking around this party and two things I noticed. One, they had napkins that said, happy 70th birthday. And I'm like, when I turn 70, there will be no napkins that have the number on it. That's just not okay at a certain point. Was this a paper napkin that was printed? Yes, paper, printed paper napkin. Okay, they can probably buy those somewhere.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Okay. The other thing was, dude, her friends, like, Susie looks great, but there were some just really old, old, I mean, just, I'm like, holy crap. Is that going to be us in 10 years? I think somehow we're just going to look better, I hope. Peptides. Keep us keep away from low tea I'm going for a tea panel actually Had old conversation about it last night at dinner
Starting point is 00:05:36 I was like okay okay I'll go I'll go I'll go You probably should get it I mean that Rogan uses the stuff And he's not old enough really And it's all you know it's uh it has it's a It's benefits Yeah well it's good for sex it's actually more good for sales who knows what
Starting point is 00:05:59 whoa whoa hold on a second what do you mean what do you mean better for sales I had a doctor of her doctor friend who put me on some tea for a while because he was a nut about it and said you gotta try this
Starting point is 00:06:12 so you got a prescription I use it for a while then I haven't been able to get it for some time because of the current doctors I have or you shouldn't use anything but no matter what but i noticed that if you use it occasionally because i there's studies done about race car
Starting point is 00:06:29 drivers and how their testosterone increases and and and as it increases during a race they also they get more daring and what it the main thing that which is is somewhat dangerous because you can get go nuts but the the thing that i noticed explicitly and you is that you get a libido increases to such an extent that that's basically all it is. And once you start to achieve that, you can figure out, oh, how do I get to that feeling you can do without the testosterone? But it increases your ability to do sales.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I'm telling you, it does. And what sales are you doing on the side that I'm unaware of? No, this goes way back when I was experimenting with this. This is the time I took you to Fringal and sold you on making me vice president. and amevio. You were jacked on tea? Oh, now I, well, it worked. It worked.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Totally worked. Smooth as silk. Smooth as silk. I took pity on you, old man. What are you talking about? I was just being nice. I'm like, ah, let's get the guy. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Whatever. Techniques or techniques. Whatever. He doesn't care. He's all just technique. He doesn't care. Well, since we're, since we're talking about big pharma, oh man, the pharmaceutical industrial complex is out in full force every single where they can go.
Starting point is 00:07:59 They need to let you know that this anti-vaxxer, this Kennedy is no good. He's a nut job. He's an anti-vaxxer. He's crazy. He's going to kill your children. And here is the offending statement from RFK Jr. I would say this. First of all, I will confirm that we let go.
Starting point is 00:08:20 this is in the RAs yesterday. I'm not going to talk about personnel issues. But, you know, the CDC is an agency that is very troubled for a very long time. And anybody who lives through the COVID pandemic is all of these bizarre recommendations that were not science-based, all the misinformation understands that the CDC has on its website today that among the top 10 medical innovations, greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion. And this is one of the greatest medical accomplishments because it keeps all families.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Go to the website. Look at fluoridation, giving kids a toxin and vaccines. There's a lot of trouble at CDC and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term in order for us to change the institutional culture and bring back pride and self-esteem. It makes that agency, the stellar agency, that it's always been, I'm for. very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're going to be able to accomplish that and ensure the competent functionality of that agency. How about changing the website, for starters? That might be an idea. You're the boss.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Why is the website say all this crap? Number one, medical innovation, abortion. That is, that is ghoulish. medical innovation By the way Have you ever played Have you ever played I've looked at 11 labs
Starting point is 00:09:55 11 labs? Yeah I use 11 That's what I use for my guys When I do Voices So running Bobby the op Through the voice isolator Which is typically meant to remove
Starting point is 00:10:08 backgrounds song music or whatever Really enhances his speech This was much worse And I ran it through that I was like, wow, this is working. I can understand it much better. Interesting. So anyway, yeah, change the website would be our Curry-Divora Consulting Group recommendation.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But no, no, no, we have to go and just see what the pharmaceutical industry is doing because they know that their days are probably limited on television advertising. They are flooding the market with influencers of everything. Yeah, you have this thesis. I saw you promote it in a new. in the email i wasn't promoting it was just uh someone i know you're working you're wood wood shopping you're shopping you would which wood shopping you would not wood shopping i was wood shopping it was wood shopping yes of course of course everybody's an influencer are you
Starting point is 00:11:06 kidding me everything is you think yeah how's an influencer gonna kind of uh going to promote rice zealous or some of these crazy drugs that they Oh, you watch. You just watch. I mean, it's like, what's the... I had eczema. Yes. And I used the school on my arm and it's great.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Now, of course. Then they're going to have to pass, you know, they have a law that you can't do these commercials without saying you were being paid. So if they, if these are being paid, these influence are being paid to promote, promote eczema drugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Are they going to have to do the disclaimer? Well, they should. Are they going to have to? Let me give you an example of an influencer, a very famous influencer, clearly paid, not like he took a check directly. It came through another avenue and went into a separate bank account, but he can use it for certain things. This is the number one medical influencer out there on the internet today. Thanks very much for joining me. dangerously, President Trump in Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy are wreaking havoc on our already broken and dysfunctional health care system.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I love the slogan. It's a great slogan. Make America healthy again. Fantastic. Unfortunately, the Trump administration is doing just the opposite. You don't make America healthy by throwing 15 million people off the health care. They have, which is what Trump's big, beautiful bill does. You don't make America healthy buy as a result of these Medicaid cuts, shutting down or creating a decline in services for hundreds of nursing homes, community health centers, and hospitals throughout the country. He's still on script. But it gets even worse than that. Oh, here we go. Secretary Kennedy has just fired the head of the CDC, Dr. Susan Monterez, who has been on the job.
Starting point is 00:13:11 for just a few weeks. No, dodge the bullet, I'd say. Her crime? Well, she refused to be a rubber stamp for Kennedy's anti-vaccine conspiracy theories. That is her crime. That's why she was fired.
Starting point is 00:13:26 How does that work? Well, the rubber stamp is the key, but wait for it, the influencer part is coming. He was given the line, he's going to pay it off. In other words, she believes what virtually the entire medical and scientific community believe. and that is that vaccines are an enormously important public health tool
Starting point is 00:13:46 which protect the health and welfare of our children and all Americans. It is a bit absurd to have to say this in the year 2025. But let me say it. Vaccines are safe and effective. Hit it again. Say it again. Vaccines are safe and effective. effective.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Okay. Third time. Come on, Bernie. Vaccines are safe and effective. So, first of all, if she loves saving children so much, I don't think the number one medical innovation should be abortion on her website. That's saving children for a, for a jar for meldhyde. For a rainy day.
Starting point is 00:14:31 So, but this is, this whole thing is very confusing because it's really about the, the Murna, the MRI vaccine. And specifically the COVID vaccine. And how long? And by the way, for people didn't know that was Bernie Sanders. Some people didn't know it. Funny enough. Yeah. It's pretty hard not to catch that voice. But he, that, this repeating safe and effective over and over again is the big lie. It's a huge lie. It's a huge that those vaccines were never safe and they were definitely not effective. And he also threw in there that rubber stamp. That's part of the meme. And what else he throw in there? Rubber stamp. I mean, it is a meme, but I don't know. No, they're going to use it. So that's, she wouldn't rubber stamp his vaccine policy. So the vaccine, oh yeah, the other lie was
Starting point is 00:15:29 15 million people going to lose their health care. Not true. Oh, yeah. That's, yeah. You know, and, and the extrapolation of that lie is all these rural hospitals. hospitals will have to close. Well, the first would have to be true for the second to be true. And the first one is not true. Yes, some people may have to, if you're on disability, but you can actually do work. Or if you're a stay-at-home mom, you may, there's some stipulations. And the problem is the states have to make up for the difference. Everyone's up in arms. But specifically, MRNA, which I think we can say was not 100% safe and was not 100% effective. And Bobby Kennedy has continuously said that, you know, some vaccines are good.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Not the ones with thimerosol, not the, you know, which is mercury. He's against this early administration of it. Certainly hepatitis B to a newborn seems insane. It seems insane. But now this is almost like, whoa, how did this happen? Because he's focused specifically on MRNA, now the people who are supposed to be promoting all vaccines are confused. In particular, Dr. Hotez, listen to what he now says about the safe and effective vaccines.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And instead, he's pushing this idea of whole inactivated virus vaccines, which is a much older technology. No, hold on. It's the technology where you're still using. No, that is what's called a vaccine. Yes. Yes, an actual vaccine. But it's old technology.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's 1.0, man. Haven't you been following the narrative? Technology. And the reason you went to MRNA or you go to subunit vaccines like what we did with our recombin and protein COVID vaccines. Hold on a say. I had to look that up because we know that he's in the vaccine business, HOTES. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Subunit vaccines. I had to look it up. Subunit vaccines are vaccines that use only specific parts, subunits of a pathogen, such as proteins or poly. Spike protein. Yeah, basically, here have some spike protein. But the way it gets better to stimulate an immune response rather than the whole pathogen.
Starting point is 00:17:58 They are apparently safer than live or inactivated vaccine since they can't cause disease. but they often require adjuvants to boost immunity. Examples include hepatitis B and HPV vaccines. So HOTES is in on all this. And of course, well, you know, it's much better, but MRNA. M RNA is the technology. We know it's safe and effective. It's saved millions of people's lives.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Pay no attention to the VERS database. And now he's going completely nuts. There are recombin protein COVID vaccines is because of the weakness of the whole inactivated virus technology. First of all, you can't rely on it because it depends. To inactivate the virus, you have to grow a lot of the virus, either in eggs or in cell lines.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And with a new virus and a new pathogen and an emerging pandemic threat, you don't know if the virus is going to grow well in the lab or not. There's no way to predict. So that's problem number one. So sometimes even if you want to make a whole inactivated virus vaccine, you may not have enough virus to inactivate.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So that's a problem. And we're sometimes facing that now with yellow fever vaccine. So that's problem number one. Problem number two is it produces a lot of side effects. If you remember in 1976, there was a big push to make a whole inactivated virus vaccine against swine flu, and it caused high rates of Guillembray syndrome. And that's because the whole inactivated virus technology probably has more side effects than just about any other vaccine technology. So why he would pick that is just absolutely makes no sense. I think that's all vaccines. He's now basically...
Starting point is 00:19:34 He just came out against all vaccines. He's an anti-vaxxer. Oh, no, all kinds of side effects, particularly for yellow fever. The swine flu vaccine in 76 didn't just give people Guillem Barre. It killed people. People were dying. Yeah, we had a couple. I didn't know them personally, but there's the family members of certain people that
Starting point is 00:19:56 worked at the air pollution district died from that shot. Yeah. So now every vaccine is no longer safe and effective. Except MRNA. This is spectacular. It's great. Spectacular. And that's because the whole net.
Starting point is 00:20:09 This is a clip of the day, by the way. When I'm done. Iris technology probably has more side effects than just about any other vaccine technology. So why he would pick that is just absolutely makes no sense. I think what he was thinking maybe is since, you know, this whole wellness and influencer push coming out of the Maha movement, make America healthy again, boasts about natural immunity and this kind of stuff. and so he thinks maybe it'll more closely resemble natural immunity. It doesn't. It causes severe side effects.
Starting point is 00:20:40 So pretty much everything, every statement coming out of HHS about MRI vaccines is incorrect. And it puts the American people under great threat. Oh, yeah, from vaccines. Holy macro, this guy is, doesn't he know what he's taught? Does he have a clue what he just said? No. It's no way he could have a clue. that this is just baffling.
Starting point is 00:21:05 He slammed the entire vaccine industry since the late 1700s. Yes. They're all no good except MRNA, which we know for a fact is no good. Safe and effective, baby. Safe and effective. You know, Bill Maher had some natural, some doctor from, I don't know, Stanford or somebody on who's a health nut. And he had, and Mar all of a sudden, I don't have the clip,
Starting point is 00:21:28 I never thought to clip it, but Marr goes on about MRI and how. how important it is. And I don't know who got to him or said, got him to bring this up. But this reminds me of the, this is a deep state meme. This is, we had a clip that I had developed from Malone, the guy who was always like to credit himself with partially inventing that technology, who, who said in the clip that it was the CIA that determined that we need a quick response in case of it. I have it.
Starting point is 00:22:02 You want to hear? Yes. Yeah, let's play that clip. All these circumventing of normal procedures and rules, that's happening because largely our intelligence community is pushing that through the administrative state structure. And why are they doing it? I think if we just back up for a minute and say, okay, let's try to give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment. Okay, okay, okay. What I think they are believed. is that they have to push this, they have to get acceptance for this technology because there are no alternatives and the threat is so severe in their opinion, in their spooky world. The threat is so severe that something has to exist and this is the something they've latched
Starting point is 00:22:52 onto. Now, I'm saying this not to defend them. I'm saying this to try to help you to understand what you've been subjected to. There you go. Found the clip in two seconds. And that was, he's talking about the MRNA vaccine as a technology to prevent germ warfare to, to, to develop a product quickly because that's what it does. It's like an overnight sensation instead of having to grow all these bacteria or viruses in a lab to get the vaccine. Overnight sensation. This MRNA is the Taylor Swift of the medical industry. It's an overnight sensation. And so they think that this is the solution to the potential for joy.
Starting point is 00:23:32 germ warfare, which is a pipe dream. Yes. Doesn't work. No. They've latched on to it. The competition was the adenovirus technology, which was used for Zika and a couple of other things. And that was also a quick fix.
Starting point is 00:23:52 You could do it quickly, but not as quick as this. And MRNAs somehow they've convinced themselves that this is the way to go. And that's why the CIA was invested in Moderna. And I guess Pfizer or a biotech biotech biotech biotech so that this is a the idea so that's why I think Bill Maher comes out and he goes on about how important this is I don't know like I said who got to him but and the other guy couldn't argue about it and it's just a we're stuck with this we're going to be stuck and they're going to bring up more MRI to try to try to prove it
Starting point is 00:24:31 works again. They're going to be a second go-round. It's not going to necessarily be with a pandemic. It'll be something else, yeah. It'll be, they'll just say, we got a flu solution, you know, we have a thing for something. There's going to be for something or other, and they're going to, it's not going to be quite as drastic as COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The sad thing is, is that the memes that were spread during COVID still hold true today. People, and I'm just going to tell, because it's in the clip, I just got to tell you that people who are vaccinated, people who are all, in on the MRNA, in this case is about COVID. And remember, the meme is, you won't have access to it. Well, yeah, you will have access. Your insurance may not cover it. Your pharmacy may not, may require a doctor's notes.
Starting point is 00:25:16 It's a recommendation. It's off the recommended list for most people. But people who have been brainwashed still believe that if you get the vaccine, but someone else doesn't, you're in. danger. This is the crazy part about it. And that's what we were told for over almost three years. But you may get the vaccine. You're a good doobie. But if that person over there, that seething, infected human resource doesn't get it, you're going to die. And of course, you know, grandma will never sit at the table anymore, et cetera. This is from Seattle.
Starting point is 00:25:55 As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out. This by itself is a lie. There's not restrictions on who can get it. It's restrictions on who it's not recommended for most and by. It's not a restriction. Yes, it's not a restriction. There's a better word. I can't think of it right off to top of my head. It's a better word for this. Yeah, recommendation. Yeah. Here we go. As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are, being rolled out. Healthcare providers are working to determine how this will be handled as people look to get their booster shots. I don't agree with it at all. Seniors like Linda Caffaley are still able to get the shot, but she still has concerns. Being a senior, I can get the shot. But for those
Starting point is 00:26:50 people who can't get it, then I'm affected because I'm exposed. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. This is unbelievable. And by the way... That is unbelievable. You just get another clip of the day. I'm telling you. I'm taking another clip of the day. Here we go, everybody. Whoa. Because this is
Starting point is 00:27:10 the absurdity of this whole thing. Well, but it's unfortunately this lie, which clearly is still firmly embedded in people's minds, who do not even understand how vaccines vaccines are supposed to work,
Starting point is 00:27:26 This has divided families, friends, neighbors, this very lie. Well, you know, I got it, but my neighbor didn't. You can't come in my house. But aren't you protected by the vaccine? Well, we all know. The answer is no. So we continue. Being a senior, I can get the shot.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But for those people who can't get it, then I'm affected because I'm exposed. so and it's you know yeah and we have grandchildren you know we just want to make sure that everybody's safe we're gonna get gonna kill my grandchildren to get the updated COVID-19 vaccine children and younger adults must have at least one high-risk health condition but doctors say good news hold on good news everybody pay attention most people still might qualify asthma physical activity type 2 diabetes obesity wait wait wait wait wait wait stop This is great. Asthma.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Asthma. Physical activity. Let me see. Let's listen. Hold on. Let's listen. Let's listen. Say most people still might qualify.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Asthma, physical inactivity. Physical, yeah, he says physical activity. Physical activity is now a medical condition. Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes. I think he's saying inactivity, which also is not a medical condition. but all right asthma, physical inactivity type of diabetes, obesity
Starting point is 00:28:59 the list is actually quite long and so a significant portion, most estimates suggest a majority of Americans meet one of those criteria. Wow! We are the sick of people. Hey, did you sit down today? Have you sat on your ass for an hour?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Oh, that's physical inactivity. You're qualified. No, no, because I pay attention to my Apple Watch circles when the circle's not full. I got to stand up When my watch sells me to stand up, I stand up. I'm good. I'm healthy. And so there is still the availability of... Booster.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Booster. Booster. Booster. That couldn't help him. As well as this decision can be made with... He went so nuts on that. Booster! I just had to repeat it. And so there is still the availability of... Booster, booster, booster, booster, booster.
Starting point is 00:29:48 as well as this decision can be made with one's health care provider. But it could be trickier to get a COVID vaccine at the pharmacy. I think some of the more challenging aspects of it are going to be around just sort of like walking up to the pharmacist, someone you don't have a treating relationship with, and then being like, knowing that they're going to get reimbursed for giving you the vaccine, that could be a little bit more in flux as well. I'm very concerned now because as a podcaster, I'm on my ass seven hours a week. week. Oh, yeah, you're physically. I'm inactive too often.
Starting point is 00:30:21 How about podcast listeners? Oh, the worst. It's just horrible. Oh, my goodness. So, obviously, we had to bring the, we had to bring out the pharmaceutical industry into the shows. This is all the Sunday shows. So this is fresh off the press, ABC this week,
Starting point is 00:30:44 Martha with Dr. Demente, or is it Dmitri? I don't know. I'm joined now by Dr. Dmitri Daskalakis, who stepped down this week from his position leading the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. Thank you for joining us this morning, doctor. By the way, if these guys are all about the fight, why do they step down? Why don't they stay in it? Don't step down. I'm quitting out of resistance.
Starting point is 00:31:12 If you really mean it, I agree with you. Wouldn't you stay in fight? You're right. And I'd have more respect for them. I'm like, okay, this guy really believes what he's thinking. Let's hear about it. No, I'm stepping down. I'm stepping away from this.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I won't work for these heathens. Who have been at the CDC for five years, about seven months under Secretary Kennedy. In your resignation. Our podcast is going 18 years. He's quitting after five. Yeah, really? Loser. That the CDC is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve.
Starting point is 00:31:47 the public's health. Oh, hold line. The leading question, but there's actually, Kennedy is designed to hurt. Yes. He's actually the devil. He's like,
Starting point is 00:32:00 Oh, I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Hill to kill your children. He is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve the public's health. That's actionable as far as I'm concerned. That's an actionable statement.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You can't say that. Can't just say he's designing this to hurt people? Okay. I don't know how much liability there is when it comes to a public figure like that with a, that comment is borderline. You might, it's possible if you had a good lawyer. What are you talking about specifically? Yes, Dr. Demento, come on in. I mean, I'm going to say, well, first, thank you for having me on, Martha.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And I'll say that we're seeing the tip of the iceberg. So right now, I think probably the most prominent demonstration of that is what Secretary Kennedy did with changing the childhood schedule for COVID-19. In that, we were directed that only children with underlying conditions who would be the ones that should qualify for vaccination. That's not what the data shows. Six months old to two-year-old, their underlying condition is youth. 53% of those children hospitalized last season had no underlying conditions. The data say that in that age range, you should be vaccinating your child. I understand that not everybody does it. But they have limited access by narrowing that recommendation.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Insurance may not cover it. May not. May not. And by the way, 53%. And what was the total? Oh, 200. I think it's 200. It comes up later.
Starting point is 00:33:39 but he does bring an actual number in instead of 50% okay 200 total um there is something that is going kind of unreported amidst this whole fracas and you say designed to hurt the policies are no you said designed to hurt wow oh that's a good switcheroo good catch too you know what happened the control room went blame it on him blame it on him we can't we don't want the lawsuit We've already been sued and we already lost. Blame it on demento. And you say designed to hurt. The policies are designed to hurt the public's health.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I said it twice. You're saying they are deliberately, purposely, knowingly hurting public health? Wow. I mean, from my vantage point as a doctor who's taken the Hippocratic oath, I only see harm coming. I may be wrong. Oh, he's so smart. He's so smart. Based on what I'm seeing, based on what I've heard with the new members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices or ACIP, they're really moving in an ideologic direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination.
Starting point is 00:34:50 What's the ideology? What is the ideology? Did he say ideology? Yeah, here. They're really moving in an ideological direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination. Is that an ideology? I think you could see it. as such if you were him? He could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:10 They do want to see the undoing of the MRNA vaccination. They have a very specific target on COVID. They really are sticking to this MRNA thing. This goes back again to the Malone and the intelligence community. They cannot, they really, they're true believers at this regard, at this point. True believers. It's the AI of the medical industry. And talk about, and that's where the ideology comes.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And this is an ideological position. Yes, yes. So they project the way you always like to say in the Dutch term. What you say, being yourself with your cop through the health. Is that they're seeing it, they're seeing the other side as being the same way. I'm going to see the undoing of MRNA vaccination. They have a very specific target on COVID, but I do fear that they have other things that they are going to be working on.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Hepatitis B vaccine is on the agenda for the meeting in September. I predict that what they're going to do is try to change the birth dose of hepatitis B vaccine. zero. So that kids don't get it when they're born. So if you have a mother who is well connected to care, you know her hepatitis B status, that may not matter very much. But if you have a mother who's not gone to prenatal care who comes in to deliver, we have one bite at that apple so that child gets that important hepatitis B vaccine. Why does it matter? Kids you have hepatitis B, they get liver scarring. It's called cirrhosis later in life. Or it's a really common cause of liver cancer. So these kids are, they're boozing it up when they're born? That's how they get liver cirrhosis? I find this hard to believe. What is hepatitis B and how do you get contracted? It's a blood disease.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I mean, you get it from blood. Needles. Needles would be one way. Look it up. You have your machine there. All right. Hold on a second. Ask the girl about how do you get hepatitis B.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I'm going to ask the girl. I don't remember her name is Error, so Error. Tell me, how do you get hepatitis B? Hepatitis B spreads through blood, semen, or other bodily fluids. John, you might want to be more careful with your habits, sharing needles or unprotected salmon ways. Also, from mother to child during birth or contaminated medical equipment. Stay safe, unlike Clueless John. She's gone crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:32 What, you put that in there. Clueless John. I didn't do that. She's just gone nuts. There you go. AI. It's the best thing since sliced bread. I don't know what it's doing. There you go. Last clip.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You made the decision to leave saying there is not a path for doing good for public health at the CDC. So what effect will this have on the CDC? All these resignations, your resignation. Are you worried about what you're leaving? behind and that others may follow you. Oh, no. Stay and fight. Of course I'm worried. I've been worried for months. I mean, I think if you've read my resignation letter, I did not write that resignation letter in 15 minutes. I had Chad GPT do it for me in 15 seconds. I had been ready to do this when I felt that I hit the line. And I hit the line when both I didn't think that we were
Starting point is 00:38:29 going to be able to present science in a way free of ideology that the firewall between science and ideology has completely broken down. And not having a scientific leader at CDC meant that we wouldn't be able to have the necessary diplomacy and connection with HHS to be able to really execute on good public health. Both of those things mean that I can't do my job and that my scientists can't do their job. When that happens, that's the beginning of harm. And that's the end of what I can do as a physician who said that first I would do no harm. God couldn't be any more gay. I don't know where you come up with that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Oh, just to hear him, it's just he's gay. The guy's super gay. Oh, man. Well, I have, I mean, they didn't stop on ABC. This is all ABC, by the way. ABC, for some reason, just went to the mat. And you're right. They just settled the lawsuit with,
Starting point is 00:39:31 with the president, they should be careful what they're doing here. You know, I was thinking about this earlier because I was looking at CBS this morning. I was trying to figure, I was when I, before the show, you're three hour, two hours ahead of me, but so when I get up before the show, I always check some news feed right away to make sure that, you know, that World War III didn't start. So that your clips are irrelevant that you did the night before. I can adjust my thinking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 But I was watching, the CBS, I realized they're kind of gone off the deep end. And CBS, I think, you know, we always call it the CIA broadcasting system. I think they went off the rails. And I think it's the CIA that pulled the plug on them. Because if you think about it, Skydance is run by Larry Ellison's son and Oracle. The corporation has always been tightly associated with the agency. So the agency is resting control. control back from CBS because they because the guys have gone so lib that you know they're not messaging
Starting point is 00:40:40 correctly they're losing their audiences they have you know bad people working there uh and they're going to just clean house once the skydance guys take over yeah that's that seems logical here's another doctor um this is uh who is this doctor this doctor is doctor is doctor is doctor Richard Bessert. Bessor, sorry, Besser. So kids are going to die. No matter what you think, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a kiddie killer. He's a murderer. He's a kiddie killer. I'm joined now by former acting CDC director, Dr. Richard Besser, now president and CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Whoa, mad brother. Would you like to remind us about the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Oh, I can't remember all the details, but it's bad. Yes. Yeah, it is. Dr. Besser, always good to see you. President Trump has fired a lot of people since he took office again. Many others in the CDC have quit now. What real difference will this make? Oh, dead kids on the street. You know, Martha, I think the difference is going to be profound. The CDC is an absolutely critical piece of the protection for Americans from any public health threat.
Starting point is 00:41:56 now with the director being removed, senior leadership leaving, I have great fears for what will happen to this country the next time we face a public health emergency, whether it's a massive earthquake, a new infectious agent, or unfortunately, the next pandemic. And we've been talking about the COVID recommendations. What are the practical considerations? Now, how serious is it? I think people say it's not 2020, so do I really need to get the booster of the vaccine? Yeah, you know, it is in 2020, but, you know, I'm a pediatrician. I practice pediatrics for more than 30 years.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And, you know, we are still seeing, I'm not going to, my bonuses. Two hundred children each year die from COVID. Anyway, here's, here's with the number. 2020, but, you know, I'm a pediatrician. I practice pediatrics for more than 30 years. And, you know, we are still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID. And the vast majority of those children are unvaccinated. So there are vaccinated children dying from COVID? What happened to safe and effective?
Starting point is 00:43:03 What's the vast majority of the 200? And what is that percentage? Oh, no, now we don't get a percentage from them. But apparently kids are dying after being protected by the COVID Vax. Something is wrong here. Still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID. And the vast majority of those children are unvaccinated. So my recommendation is that, you know, stop listening to the politicians, talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You know, there are individuals who are at greater risk, but there are also people who live with those who are at greater risk, live with elderly people, live with people with cancer. For those individuals, getting a COVID vaccine is really important. Unfortunately, with the recommendations coming out of the department, many people may have to pay for this out of pocket. And a lot of people can't afford to do that. There you go. The CDC is not a department, I might point out. The CDC is kind of a weird beast altogether, sitting there in Atlanta. We've got a whole other extra nonprofit fund.
Starting point is 00:44:07 RFK Jr. should explain to the American people how that operation actually operates. No one's going to do that. Under Richard, under, I'm looking at a citation here, under Richard Besson's leadership, the foundation, prioritized health equity. So we all die. That's the idea? That's equitable.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Everybody does. Everybody does. All right, two more clips from this, Jamoke. Because of what you're seeing at the CDC, who should people take advice from now? The CDC still? What kind of question? Let me think, how would I answer that?
Starting point is 00:44:45 No, you can't listen to the CDC. Listen to the doctors. trust the science. Well, for personal health information, I think you need to talk to your doctor, your nurse, your pharmacist. I worry, though, about the nation as a whole. I served as the acting director of the CDC
Starting point is 00:45:06 at the start of the Obama administration, and the reason I was given that job was that I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years. They wanted to make sure... What agency? First he said, his department, then he says agency. The CDC is not an agent. Is he talking about the CDC?
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, I think so. That's not an agency. Could it be, could it be defined as an agency? I don't think so. Well, let's take a, ask your friend. All right. Is the CDC considered an agency of the government? No, John, darling. The district of Columbia isn't considered an agency of the government. It's a federal district with its own local government. She thinks it's D.C. I'm not even going to ask her.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Oh, they're asking again, but this is the Centers for Disease Control. Be more specific. You want to ask go? I'm not asking nothing because she's condemning me. You've got some code you put in there. So every time she answers the question, it's got something to do with me. Nice try. Is the Centers for Disease Control considered an agency?
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yes, the CDC is a federal agency. John, unlike you, who's just a federal pain part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. My brilliant love. Anything else, handsome? She's gotten all jitty on you. She's got that part right. She's gotten all jitty on you. I'd like insulting error better. Anyway, okay. So I guess it was, well, we'll have to look into that. We have looked into it. But the CDC is not your typical agency. It's also located in Atlanta, which would tell you something. It's not in D.C. I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years. They wanted to make sure someone was in that seat in the event there was a public health emergency. And there was. There was the H1N1 swine flu pandemic.
Starting point is 00:47:07 We now have as an acting director, someone with absolutely no public health experience, and that puts us all at incredible risk. And Dr. Bresser, I want to ask you one thing about mandates. It's one of the things that Secretary Kennedy said this week and touted progress that he's made. He said he ended the mandates. Why do you think mandates are important? Well, you know, when I think about mandates, I think about children going to school. I think about young parents who are sending their children to school and want to know that their children are safe.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And the way children are safe from vaccine preventable diseases is by getting vaccinated themselves. but no vaccine is 100%. And so you count on the other children in that classroom being vaccinated. I think with this secretary, we are on a path to it being largely parental choice. And that is going to put at risk those people for whom the vaccine didn't work and children who may have medical conditions where they can't get vaccinated. That is a major step backwards for public health. This is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:11 It's like if first of all, if you're vaccinated, you still can get killed by an unvaccinated. then it's a parental choice which is clearly very bad and then it's like well some kids can't get vaccinated and other kids who aren't vaccinated will kill the other kids meanwhile we got actual kids killing kids with guns everywhere who are hyped up on other pharmaceutical nonsense i know there's been concerned from public health officials like you about kennedy given his history of unsubstantiated claims about the link between vaccines. Unsubstantiated claims, I tell you. And autism. He talked about researching the causes of autism this week with President Trump. Let's listen. Here we go, everybody. The autism is such a tremendous horror show. How are you doing on that?
Starting point is 00:49:02 We are doing very well. We will have announcements as promised in September. We're finding interventions, certain interventions now that are clearly, almost certainly causing autism. Again, there's no scientific support for a link between autism and vaccines, but are you concerned about what he might announce? He didn't actually even say that. She just presumed that's what he's going to say. He could say it's microplastics for all we know. But she's just presuming that's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I'm very concerned. You know, when he was being confirmed to be secretary, one of the things he said is don't listen to him for scientific advice, he's not a scientist. But since he has become secretary, he very frequently is making scientific proclamations that have absolutely no basis. So I'm worried as to what he'll say. There's incredible research going on to try and understand the many causes of autism and how to provide the best services for people who are on the autism spectrum. I don't see this as a secretary who's going to follow the science. He has been following ideology from day one. Ideology. There it is again. Ideology.
Starting point is 00:50:13 What is his ideology? You want to know what is this ideology? Yes. Well, she's going to ask it. Keep playing. She'll ask. No, that was the last clip. Let me ask error. Error. What is the ideology behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s policies?
Starting point is 00:50:34 Intuitionism and skepticism, Zionist Schill, Adam, blending environmentalism with distrust in big institutions like vaccines and big pharma. Think natural foods, anti-establishment vibes, and conspiracy-leaning health policies. She called me a Zionist Schill. What's up with that? Well, everybody knows that. She's just lashing out, Zionist Schill, Adam. Sounds...
Starting point is 00:50:58 It's gone crazy. This thing is, that's grok. That thing is no good. Anyway, so there you go. I don't know if you had anything else in this department, but I have nothing in this department. I let you go. Yeah. By the way, Ozympic side effects may have caused a granny to stab her family members in Australia.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So that's just a slight side effect, everybody. Ooh, stabbing. Stabbing. Stabbed her daughter and her grandson. Yeah. It was, it was the Ozempic. sure that this has not been documented this is bolder this is an excuse for stabbing yes probably probably she's a murderer the woman no it's because they didn't die they were okay
Starting point is 00:51:49 she's not a murderer all right um i'm going to give you some kudos some kudos thank you i'll take them okay and let's move on to the next uh i'll just what my kudos for you want to what the kudos are for. Regarding the shooting in New York, which the media played off as
Starting point is 00:52:14 against the NFL for the guy's brain injury. What did you say it was? Blackstone, they had the guys from Las Vegas, their Blackstone is the number one their number one target area for buying up houses and doing real estate deals is
Starting point is 00:52:30 Las Vegas. And he killed the head of Blackstone's the real estate division, which probably has something to do with this Las Vegas thing. And I think he lost his house or something happened. They didn't want to cover it. They wanted to cover it up because they don't want New York City to be filled with a bunch of people shooting the CEOs in the big buildings. It's not going to be any good for the city. Well, even though they don't deconstruct it the way you did, the end result is kind of the same. Federal prosecutors say Luigi Mangione may have influenced last month's mass shooting at an office building in midtown. In a new court filing, prosecutors say by carrying out the execution style
Starting point is 00:53:07 murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, Mangione, quote, hope to normalize the use of violence. And joining us now to break it down is ABC's Aaron Kuterski. Aaron, let's start. What exactly are federal prosecutors arguing in this new filing? Well, they're explaining a little bit more about why they want to pursue the death penalty for Luigi Mangione on federal charges to which he's pleaded not guilty. And Brittany, they say, say one of the reasons is because he's a future danger. And you say to yourself, how is Luigi Mangione in custody charged with murdering Brian Thompson going to be a danger to anyone? And prosecutors say it's his ability to inspire. And they take the words, delay, denied, depose, written on the
Starting point is 00:53:49 bullets. They take some of the writings that police say were seized from him after his arrest, where they believe Mangione not only wanted to kill Brian Thompson, but also make a larger point. and that is to use, to encourage others to use violence instead of dialogue to make some sort of political point or objective. Was there anything in the NFL headquarter shooting in Midtown that related to Mangione? Not specifically, but federal prosecutors pointed to it in this most recent court filing to say, just look at Shane Tamura. And what he did, he also left writings behind, indicating that he had, a grievance against an entity. In this case, not health care, but the NFL, allegedly for causing traumatic brain injury. And instead of trying to work it out somehow, what did he do?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Prosecutors noted he used violence marching into 345 Park Avenue with an assault-style rifle. This is real. And shooting the head of Blackstone. I mean, come on. Where's the NFL in this? And where's that note? This is bull crap. They made all that part up. Yeah. This is the, by, the way, the assault-style rifle. I love that. Assault style. Yeah. But isn't this the definition of what most of these people go through?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Like going postal. You know, someone was mad about his job at the post office. This is what it was called. Absolutely. Although, did it only really happen once or twice, I think? How many times do you think? Well, the postal thing, I think it happened about a half dozen times or maybe a dozen. That was good.
Starting point is 00:55:26 That went on for a long time. Yeah. Well, there you go. because one guy did it, everyone else did it. So now they want to kill Mangione because of it. He might inspire people, which is kind of, kind of odd.
Starting point is 00:55:39 But just put him in maximum security prison. He's not going to inspire anybody from there. No, you have to thwart people by saying you will die. I don't know about that working. It makes him a martyr. I think it's dangerous. Well, so back to your premise, the whole report is made up in bull crap
Starting point is 00:55:57 because really what it's about is this kind of Luigi vigilanteism. I think the Zephyr just went by. No. You're not late. No. Something went by, yep.
Starting point is 00:56:12 No. You're looking for the clip? Yes, I am. I like it. It depends on the number of nose, you say, where you're looking for the clip. There's stop. That's good.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I don't have it. Is this? That's it. No, no, we don't have it. No, listen to that horn. There goes... Listen to that horn, but I thought we had a Zephyra thing. Was it Fomer? That's what it was. Fomer. Oh, goodness gracious.
Starting point is 00:56:42 So... Let's try it again. Oh, my God! Woo! Listen to that horn! Did you see how many cars the Zephyr had? And why is it going by on Sunday? It's not supposed to go by at this time. No, they go, it's seven days a week.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah, but it's late. It's really late. What happens? I don't know Of course I couldn't count the cars Because they put up a big apartment building Near the tracks It muffles the sound But it doesn't
Starting point is 00:57:10 They have blocked your view of the tracks Yeah Most people by the way Would be super happy about this Oh finally I don't hear that blasted train every single night John is disappointed I can't hear the train
Starting point is 00:57:24 So since we're talking about Kennedy a little bit in this health situation. I have a couple of clips on food dyes. Mm, yes. And I thought this was an interesting, this was some NPR, and this was a good counter argument for the food dyes.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Why is that everybody else in the world they have, they've taken these artificial flashy dyes out of the cereals. But they have a, our people have a real good excuse. It's the dumb public. Now they're blaming the dumb public
Starting point is 00:57:54 for this whole thing. This is, I thought was a fascinating series. eclipse. The story that always comes up is about the cereal tricks. This morning, a big announcement from a cereal giant. Ten years ago, General Mills made a splash saying it would remove artificial dyes from cereal, and it released tricks colored naturally with fruits and vegetables. And many shoppers hated it. They complained on social media and the news that the new tricks looked sad and boring. And General Mills,
Starting point is 00:58:27 They actually put the food dyes, the synthetic dyes, back into the trick cereal formula. Thomas Gallagin is with the Center for Science in the Public Interest. It advocates against synthetic dyes over health concerns, particularly in children. And this is really a problem because General Mills framed this as a consumer demand issue. This is what consumers want. And it set the tone. So when Kellogg later died fruit loops with spices and juices, it was for Canada, but not the U.S. M&M's maker Mars faced.
Starting point is 00:58:57 out artificial colors in Europe, but not the U.S. The All-American Kraft mac and cheese removed chemical dyes stealthily. It's still neon yellow, but naturally boasting in the ads. Moms didn't notice. Kids didn't notice. Neither did dogs. Kellogg and Mars would say Americans really love bright colors. And data suggest it's true.
Starting point is 00:59:23 People think food tastes better if it's brightly colored, period. End of story. Marian Nessel is a public health nutritionist whose tracked research on food dyes. Brighter colors are perceived as tasting better, whether the taste changes or not. Oh, yeah, well, that's true. Just walk through any American supermarket. It's like walking through a carnival. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Colors are color. It's a overload of color. It used to be, we are happy with a toy inside. It was a spinning top made of plastic. I remember the spinning top and a cracker jacks. Well, not even the cracker jacks, but you had it, I think you had it in corn flakes, rice Krispies. And I remember my...
Starting point is 01:00:07 They used to put toys and all kinds of foods. And in fact, you went back far enough, and then this is going way back. They used to put towels in a box of detergent. Yes, yes, I remember that, sure. So you buy a box of the church or you get a free towel. And I also remember the
Starting point is 01:00:30 I forget what product it was when my mom always bought it and I always said, Mom, buy that. It was like some cleaning product. And it came with a with a sponge but the sponge was like the size of a postage stamp.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And the minute you added water to it it expanded all the way to it. Oh, they have one of those compressed sponges. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah, Mom, buy one of those. It was a great marketing tool. But yes, yeah, of course. Do they still put, I think they probably stopped putting the toys in
Starting point is 01:00:59 because it would go into cereal and kids would try to eat the toy. Because kids are dumb. Generally, yeah. But yes, I think this is well known and just look at all of the fake meat and all that stuff that they're putting together. It has all kinds of coloring and taste added. And they're not even talking about the nutritional value of this junk. I remember my dad used to say, you're eating cardboard.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You would always say that. You're eating cardboard. I think my parents said cardboard, too. Cardboard. Oh, I'm a boomer. It tastes a lot like cardboard. Yeah. Okay, let's go to, here's a second version of the second clip.
Starting point is 01:01:35 But is it our nature, or is it marketing? Think about your force of habit, especially for childhood snacks. Of course, children tend to love brighter colors, so they get advertised to. Wow. Blue fruit loops. And when they grow up, it's hard to let go of that memory. We like them to dance. Food dyeing goes back centuries.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Think dairy farmers adding spices to make cheese look more yellow. Food historian I Hisano says railroads made an impact. When Florida farmers had to compete with California farmers, they started dyeing their oranges to be more orange. Along came processed foods. When butter had to compete with margarine, it became a richer yellow. Over time, Hisano says, colorful advertising and the modern supermarket trained us what to expect. Like, say, strawberry candies or strawberry drinks, they don't look like a real strawberry color, but people we kind of learn to understand. And learn to recognize even science fiction-y flavors
Starting point is 01:02:38 and colors like blue raspberry. Now we're at a new turning point. The Trump administration's health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is pushing companies to get rid of synthetic dyes. And major brands are agreeing. Even M&Ms is once again willing to. to try a naturally colored version. The irony is that without artificial color, many snacks and cereals look, well, obviously, processed. And natural dyes can be finicky. Color has been a challenge for us.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Nick Scheidler leads product development at Walmart's Sam's Club, which in 2022 pledged that by the end of this year, it would remove dozens of ingredients from its private brand member's mark. That includes high fructose corn syrup, some preservatives, and artificial dyes. The latter proved the trickiest. Well, at least the conversations out there. I guess that's kind of good.
Starting point is 01:03:33 People are talking about it. Shouldn't give you kids this crap at all in the morning. What did you feed your kids when they were young? Fruit loops. No. I doubt it. Omeal. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Eggs. How about bacon and eggs is always a winner. Stack a pang. Pancakes is good. French toast. French toast, yep. With bacon. No, usually not.
Starting point is 01:04:03 But with maple syrup, the real deal. The real deal. Yeah, the real deal. Gets them all jacked up, ready for school. I'm ready, dad, drive me to school. Maple syrup's actually pretty sweet. It's sweeter than you'd think. I know.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I know it is. Here is the part three. Yeah, so some of the things we saw were the colors actually were muted and they got continuously lighter over time. Some replacements are tried and true. Turmeric makes things yellow, beets, red, a seed called
Starting point is 01:04:30 a gnaau, orange, and blue can come from spirulina, which is an algae. But then you add these savory dyes to sweets, and you've got to find a way to mask their flavors. In some cases, too, it wasn't holding the color as long. Shiedler says the final frontiers for his team.
Starting point is 01:04:46 One is sports drinks, in colors to rival Gatorade. The other is icing for cupcakes and cookies, bright like crayons. And I kept wondering, why bother? Why can't cupcakes just be less vivid? Scheidler says Sam's Club kept asking its shoppers about this. The visual appearance is still something very important that they've told us.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Nature or nurture, shopper said they did not want a gray, murky soda or a dusty looking sweet treat. Alina Selhu, NPR News. Thank you, what to do. This is Lieutenant O'Hura. Signing off. I was just making fun of her name. So I don't see why anyone's buying cupcakes from the Sam's Club Bakery, but okay. And by the way, one of the worst bakeries is whole foods.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Man, I haven't been to Whole Foods in years. We don't have one out here, so I haven't been to a long time. Yeah, you got lucky. We don't really eat any baked goods. We don't eat any sweets. I can't have me in the house. Tina's an addict. She's an addict.
Starting point is 01:05:57 If I bring something like Eminem's, that bag will be gone in 30 minutes. Well, 30 minutes, that's a while. Like one of those huge bags. It's not like a little bag, like one of those big bag. There's nothing sweet in our house. No. She says it herself.
Starting point is 01:06:16 She's keeping it away from me. Oh, I thought she was sweet. Oh, that's so nice of you to say. Ready for a pivot? Yeah, it's a pivot. I don't pivot to the tariffs because, well. I do have a tariff's clip. Yeah, well, let me sit this up first.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I have a Scott Simon clip with the tariffs. That might be the way to start. Oh, man. Hold on a second. You know, the problem with Scott Simon is the guy, first he goes on vacation for five weeks. hear from him. And then all of a sudden he's back. Let me see. Where's your, where's your, where's your, uh, clip here? His tariff needs Trump, NPR, Scott Simon. Ah, there we go. Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Simon. Federal appeals court has ruled that many of President Trump's sweeping tariffs are illegal. That's the guy, man. It's him. But the judge is delayed implementation of the ruling until October giving the Supreme Court time to rule. Join up by NPR's Ron Elving. Ron, thanks for being with us. Thank you, Scott. Good to be with you, Scott. Social media posts, the president says it would be, quote, a total disaster for the country if the tariffs went away. What does this ruling and all the back and forth mean for those trade deals? You know, this tariff story has been whiplash, practically from the get-go. Trump has imposed tariffs and lifted them. He set them at 25% for a given country and then doubled them, set them at 100% of the value of the goods and then
Starting point is 01:07:50 paired that way back. He's looked very much, or this whole playing out has looked very much like an array of negotiating tactics in search of a strategy. And while billions have been collected, you know what's so interesting is that, oh, oh, really Sherlock? Have you finally figured out the president's algorithm. This is what he does. Like, oh, I think we'll have 600,000 Chinese students. Everybody freaks out. Nah, I don't think we'll do 600,000 Chinese students. It's how we does, it's how he works. Like, well, it seems like this is a negotiating tactic without a strategy. It is the strategy. It is the strategy. Oh, I'm so tired of these people. Playing out has looked very much like an array of negotiating tactics in search of a strategy.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And while billions have been collected, it's premature to say that's really money in the bank, at least not yet. So the disposition here is going to depend on what the series of courts, ultimately the U.S. Supreme Court, should decide. Did Trump follow the law in his end run around Congress in setting these tariffs? Or is he within his rights? That's been a crucial question all along, but Friday's ruling from the full Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that really raises the stakes. So it will go to the Supreme Court eventually, but in the meantime, it's back with a trade court that has been tough on Trump in the past. And at the same time, let's remember, it could be good news for consumers if it ultimately restrains these new Trump tariffs and allows U.S. retailers to return to their previous price structures. So, you know, if you look at all of the bills and the laws that Congress,
Starting point is 01:09:36 itself passed, they have given a lot of this power to the president. But if you take it back to the Constitution, and in particular, if you keep telling the American people, it's a tax, it's a tax, it's a tax on you, then, yeah, I think there's an argument to be made that it is not within his authority. However, I found a clip here from CTV, trust the Canadians, with a former a U.S. judge had to cut a lot of white space out of this guy. And I think this is probably exactly what will happen. And guess what? It's about the midterms. Given the holding of the court, I think the fact that the court similarly has given the president until October 15 to file a Supreme Court appeal. And then the Supreme Court, as you indicated, I think earlier,
Starting point is 01:10:27 the supermajority on the court might slow walk this through the midterm election. of 2026 so that these tariffs, even though ruled illegal and importantly so, will remain in effect until the court rules. And if the court does what it did with the presidential immunity case, waiting until the last day to brief here and decide, I think these tariffs are going to be significant with us for a long time now. And when it, assuming it gets to the Supreme Court, either way their decision goes, what kind of a precedent would that set? Well, I think that's going to be the key precedent because the
Starting point is 01:11:05 lower court rulings, although I think correct based on the United States Constitution Article 1, which this exclusive jurisdiction for both tariffs and taxes, which these tariffs are in the United States Congress, if they decide to uphold Trump on this, I think that will be another one of these precedents, which, although I think in earlier times, people would say there was a very small chance for that to occur, that will become the new precedent by the supermajority. Yeah. It'll be another thing everyone can get angry over. Meanwhile, the whole concept seems to be working pretty well.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Well, so far. Except for the vape shops. People in the vape shops are all upset. Why? Because the cheap Chinese crap, vape, you know, pre-packaged, pre-bundled vapes are now five bucks more expensive. They should be outlawed these things.
Starting point is 01:12:10 They're dangerous to your health, in my opinion. Oh, I can't get my vape. I can't get the flavor I want. And this was kind of interesting. Coming back to the de minimis, as we know, as we discussed on, I think the last episode, you used to be able to ship up to $800 worth of stuff tax-free, which is how all of this T-Mu and all these things,
Starting point is 01:12:36 you know, the clothes, which, by the way, are all like $30, so I'm not quite sure unless you ship it all in one box. And by the way, is this just self-declared? How much is this worth? It could be a diamond in there. Oh, 20 bucks. Well, it turned...
Starting point is 01:12:51 That's always been a promise called smuggling. Well, it turns out that with this de minimis, It's not just about the amount, but now people actually have to file paperwork. Unouette and her two children traveled for hours to come to the post office in Mexico City. But after the National Post Service suspended shipments to the U.S., they're leaving disappointed. My loved ones were expecting some presents. I wanted to set them things like a little show, something main in Mexico. Now I can't.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I've already bought it, but I can't get it to them. The postal services of dozens of countries have done the same. French, Danish, Spanish, Russian, Indian, British, Taiwanese, Belgian, German and Italian, to name a few. But why now? On Friday, the United States ended duty-free imports for all parcels worth less than $800. An exemption known as de minimis. President Donald Trump's administration promises the move will be permanent, and postal services hope the resulting logistics headaches are temporary.
Starting point is 01:13:53 One certainty is there will be more. paperwork for sellers and higher prices for bias. The U.S. government already eliminated the exemption for goods from China at the start of May and says it's collected almost half a billion dollars from the new tax since then. The idea behind the expanded policy is to tackle low cost direct to consumer imports and boost American manufacturing and retail. Yep, it'll boost our plastic crap. We should start making it. I don't understand why this is such a big deal. In the olden days, you used to get stuff from overseas and it had a little tag on it with the value and you paid the tariff at the post office. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:36 But I guess that, well, we know that went away. The couple of Republicans jacked it up to 800. Well, how are we going to do it? I don't know. It's so confusing. Yes. I don't know. It's beyond me.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I can't write this little ticket up and stick it on the envelope. So here, I don't understand this. This is from Sir Gene. who was listening live in real time. Recently, you had to get a part for a joystick from China, which, by the way, is already your problem, Sir Gene. Did you break your joystick? That's what he used it for.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Yes. The part was $84, which would fit in the de minimis. The shipping, now the shipper has to collect the tariffs of $46 when it came into the U.S. I was notified. I owed $56 in order for them to deliver so the total price on an $84 part came to $180. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:15:35 It's under $100, so someone's ripping you off. Or is this just the pure tariff? No, I mean, de minimis is no tariff. Am I misunderstanding? My understanding is, yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no, yes, and yes and no and no and yes. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I thought it was $100. They changed it to from 800 to 100. So anything that was why Shimu and Timu and Seamus and Damos and all the rest of these operations are sending me two or three emails a day. And I keep looking and I'm going, I could just block these. There's no problem in my mailing. I just put a thing in it. But I keep, for some reason, I let it happen hoping it's some real good deal shows up, I guess.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I don't know why I'm allowing. this. But they're constantly, they want you to buy lots of little packages. I mean, the idea. Yeah, that's the whole point. My understanding is you can buy a thousand eighty dollar packages and it all comes through free. That's what I thought too. So I think, Gene, you're getting ripped off by somebody. So something's a miss. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Tina fell for a good one the other day. She was on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:16:52 And she's, you know, these two people. and their whole account was like they have to shut down their store, they can't make it anymore, and they're just, you know, they're just selling nice clothes and, you know, skirts and stuff. And there was a husband and wife and, you know, they're really sad. And Tina's like, oh, you know, I'll buy some stuff from them. So she puts in an order, I don't know, like 150 bucks. And then she gets a confirmation from China.
Starting point is 01:17:18 And then, you know, and then she sees the actual product shots. It's all crap. It's like $3 skirts from China. And these people were just scamming her. Like, oh, we're so, we have to go out of business. It was not true. It was a lie. Lies on the internet.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And now the, and she's like, cancel my order. Stop, the presses. I know, she's canceled my order. No, we can't. It's already done. It's coming from China. You'll have to send it back to China. Give me a break.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Well, that would be the last time that happens to her. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. Because I'm going to make fun of her for a long time. make fun of her about it. I mean, that's what scammers do. They scam. They're busy. So I'm at the dinner table and it's brought up by J.C. and Jesse both that Trump's dying. I heard this. Yeah. No, in fact, there was a rumor this weekend that he was already dead.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah, there's that one too. That's on top of it. Until he came out in the golf cart with his granddaughter and started, you know, riding around. So he's dying from what? Well, I have the clip. Oh, this is the Trump. Now, this is a clip, this is a combo clip. This is from those two putty-faced women that do this eye-hip news or whatever it's called. They said it's a horrible.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Puddy-face women? Yeah. One of them looks like her face is made. She looks like Odo in Deep Space Nine. She's got no character. She has no features on her face, like literally. I see. And so they call her putty face.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And she's a Trump hater. and there's no such thing as President Trump. It's the felon President Trump. It's always that. So they report on it and they bring in the, I think, the progenitor of the whole thing, which I believe to be Alex Jones. Oh, I have to watch this now. The first comment on the YouTube,
Starting point is 01:19:14 he wasn't shot, he didn't win, he's going to hell. I'll have to watch this. You're right, they are putty-faced. A little bit of eye makeup wouldn't hurt. Just for video. I mean, I don't care how you look, but all right. So this is all from Alex Jones. Surprise.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Well, no, this is from the eye hip. They reference the Alex Joan and bring in Alex. They do a clip. They do a clip. Oh, all right. Mc Taco Tits, the convicted felon president. What did she say, Taco Tits? Mick Taco Tits.
Starting point is 01:19:45 What is that? I don't know. That's what she calls him. McTaco Tits, the convicted felon president. Oh, that's our president. Okay. Points for that one. McTacotit's, the convicted felon, president of the United States, health is in rapid, rapid decline.
Starting point is 01:20:03 There is a massive cover up going on at the White House regarding this. But the right wing is starting to figure it out. And Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist, absolute abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it. Kylie, pop up this. Hey, that's what one of our producers wants me to talk like that. That's exactly what they want to hear. Ptaco takes a piece of shit. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:20:28 The conspiracy theorist, absolute abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it. Kylie, pop up this headline. We have a crisis, Alex Jones warns, that Trump is headed for health collapse, a health collapse. Kylie, now play the clip. You can see him declining faster and faster. It's not super bad yet. but unlike Biden that was completely shot and had all these brain surgeries and the rest of it, Trump has got great genetics, he's tough, and if he takes care of himself,
Starting point is 01:21:05 he can make it through these years and then after. But if he doesn't, he's going to have, I predict Trump is going to have some type of collapse from the next 12 months of the current trajectory. I'm not saying he's going to. All right. Deep in the heart of MAGA, he's giving. Canks, who I'm going to refer to him as instead of Cankles, make taco tits for expediency and efficiency. He's giving Canks 12 months, 12 months to live. Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Well, here's the thing. He says a couple things that are just really odd. It's not that bad yet. Alex, it's terrible. His ankles are as big as my head. He's got bruises on his palm from what I think they're giving him IVs. And then he says he has great genes. Let's not forget. His father died. of dementia and Alzheimer's. This man's genes tell us exactly where he said it, in my opinion, and I'm not a doctor. That's pretty good. Those women and the, what's that other podcast that we talk about every once in a while? Midas effect.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Midas effect. Midas touch, yes. I thought it was Midas effect. I think it's the Midas effect. I thought it was Midas. Whatever it is, it's Midas something. It's guys named Midas. And that guy who's just as bad as these two putty-faced women.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Putty-faced. Just cannot. They're such unbelievable haters. It's just, I don't think it does the public any good at all to listen to people like this. Well, on that note, hold on, I'm running down putty face. For some reason, I just kind of like it. You're right. It is the Midas Touch podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:48 You're right. Alex Jones also, breaking, breaking. I didn't clip him, you know, oh, oh, oh, yeah, here we go. The whole network, everybody was all, all of his guys were all over it. Oh, his dad was a spook. Deep State, Deep State. This is, this all set up. And we're talking about the Minneapolis shooter, the trans shooter.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Yeah. Deep State, deep state, deep state, how many times, how many times, geospatial industry, yep, that's I don't get the geospatial thing with that. CIA. They work for the CIA. So we, of course, have the, we are the best podcasting the universe, not because of Adam and John, but because of our producers. And here's what came in. Adam, I worked with Robert Robin Westman's dad, Jim Westman, for 20 years. You were wondering where the parents were up until 2014. They got divorced in 2013. Their son would have been 11 at the time. I don't
Starting point is 01:23:53 know for sure, but I think the mother had custody of the kids after the divorce. I think I saw the kid at work at a work event or something when he was seven or eight, but don't remember anything unusual, just a normal little boy at the time. Jim, that's this shooter's dad, is a dude name Ben and a very good coder. I see people on X claiming he was a CIA analyst or CIA contractor. I can assure you this is complete nonsense. I have some friends that are in contact with him, but I haven't talked to any of them about the situation since this is so hot right now. And of course, he wants me to keep him anonymous. He's a knight. I know who he is. And I believe his story to be true. So, sorry to debunk that. However, however, however, however,
Starting point is 01:24:42 the M5M cannot get past the trans part because, look, there's patterns. There's patterns. but we don't know the motive. We have no idea. There's patterns, but we don't, we don't know the motive. When you have mass shooting investigations so often, there is a pattern. I think police are trying to get after that tonight. You know, you see obviously some real clues here as to what a motive could be, but they're not saying formally what it is yet. We don't have a motive at this time. It's unclear what the motive was. Again, there's just nothing specific in the evidence that's been recovered. There's no information, nothing specific to identify a specific motive, but they'll be continuing to talk to people to see. if there was a flag.
Starting point is 01:25:23 If something may have popped up, that they can look into. There's no clear motive, and that's what we want to know. Was this a revenge shooting because there were prior affiliations to the school? Is this notoriety? The shooter identified, we are told as female, legally changed their name from Robert to Robin. There's no connection yet from that to the motive. I don't believe that how the shooter identifies currently in this investigation right now is of significant importance. The mayor also calling on people to, quote, stop village.
Starting point is 01:25:51 the trans community after learning that the suspect who was born male identified as female spoke about this so profoundly and powerfully i have heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed at our trans community anybody that is going to use this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community not to jump to conclusions about the shooter right what his ideological views might have been what his own personal situation was Did these people not watch the videos? Did they not read anything that this kid was doing? Oh, we don't know what the motive. But for sure, the motive isn't just because you're trans doesn't mean you're a killer. There's a pattern there. And the pattern would have to be relatable to mental illness, to pharmaceutical drugs,
Starting point is 01:26:45 which we heard our very own vaccine denier, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. say many of them come with black box warnings that say you might have suicidal ideations or homicidal ideations. Seems like a possible thing we could look at. But no, don't you dare talk about our trans community. Community. It's not a community. Where do they live? Well, Minneapolis, that's true. It's a trans community. No, no, no, no. Because in this case, when it comes, said this trans person, we no longer view this person as a she, as he wanted to be identified. No, no, no. We're just going to view her as a him for convenience sake.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I don't know why this has been a trend lately when it comes to shooters. But immediately, you'll see a bunch of accounts online argue that it's a trans problem, that the shooter was trans. A lot of shootings happening all across the country from different demographics, but a lot of the mass shootings are carried out by young white men. They say demonic, and then they, it's transgender maniac shoots up Catholic school. You know, they could very easily say time and time again, straight white maniac shoots up Catholic school.
Starting point is 01:28:08 There's a lot of misinformation circulating right now. This individual, as far as we know, did identify as transgender. However, as we look at the spectrum of mass casualty events in our nation, history. There have been a range of motivations and a range of profiles that have been associated with mass casualty events. You look at the shooting in Charleston at a historically
Starting point is 01:28:29 black church in 2015. That was perpetrated by a white supremacist. Let's just be very real here. We have too many guns in America. Yeah, all right. So when it guns always do that. When it behooves the mainstream media, then
Starting point is 01:28:45 the trans woman is a white man. it's unbelievable, unbelievable. Shocking. Yeah, I know, very shocking, shocking. And then... There's gambling going on. Here's the Minnesota acting attorney general.
Starting point is 01:29:04 The shooter left behind hundreds of pages of writings, writings that describe the shooter's plan, writings that describe the shooter's mental state, and more than anything, writings that describe the shooter's hate, pure indiscriminate hate. The shooter expressed hate towards almost every group a manageable. The shooter expressed hate towards black people. The shooter expressed hate towards Mexican people.
Starting point is 01:29:34 The shooter expressed hate towards Christian people. The shooter expressed hate towards Jewish people. In short, the shooter appeared to hate all. of us. The shooter's heart was full of hate. There appears to be only one group that the shooter didn't hate. Oh, I can't wait to hear what it was. Just one group. Only one group? One group of people who the shooter admired. The group were the school shooters and mass murderers that are notorious in this country. The shooter idolized some of the most notorious. school shooters and mass murders in our country's history.
Starting point is 01:30:21 I won't name them, just like I won't name the shooter. They don't deserve to have their names, remember. That's what I mean. It's like the whole rundown forgot to mention Anders Breivik, who was not American and who killed a bunch of kids for political reasons. I think there was a more obvious, I would say, thing left out of his lists that was more important than anything, which was he hated this, he hated that. He hated Trump. It said very specifically killed Trump. Killed Trump. Yes,
Starting point is 01:30:55 and that, because of that, leaving stuff like that out resulted in Rosie O'Donnell coming on her stupid thing saying the guy was mega. Do you have a clip? I, now you mention it, no, but I wasn't clipping for this guy because I thought it was old news. We already covered. but I should have clipped it, but that's what Rosie said. Dad's another mega guy killing people. Which is, you know, because you leave that one thing out. Yeah. And you could maybe think that.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Rosie, old daughter. Is she back on a show somewhere? She has a show? Yeah, her own, she has her own posts on X. Oh, that's her show, is it? That's her show. She's got the camera up her nose because she's got it. She looks like
Starting point is 01:31:46 Hell baked over. That's not a very good show. She's got the camera up her nose. It's not a show, man. She's an influencer. Well, on the legal front, we do have something changing. Rob, constitutional lawyer. I called him out on the last show.
Starting point is 01:32:04 I haven't heard from him. I'm worried because there is work to be done, my friend. Attorneys in general of Virginia and North Carolina are part of a bipartisan coalition. demanding big tech companies strengthen protections for minors exposed to AI chat bots. They sent a letter warning companies will be held accountable for any harm for their AI products that they cause,
Starting point is 01:32:27 including sexual conversations, discussions of violence, and deceptive interactions that lead to scams. This comes as a California family, a suing open AI, claiming chat GPT helped their teenage son plan suicide. This is what we need. This is a direction I can agree with. Hold them liable. There's no way they can't be held liable for this.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Unless it's in the Yula, which I'm sure it is. Well, even if the Yula cannot, there's still issues that the Yula cannot protect no matter what it says. Unless you're a pharmaceutical company with vaccines. Well, that wasn't part of a, that's not a part of a Yula. That was a federal, that was a congressional. act. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:15 That was a law that was passed. Who says that won't be passed for AI? Could be. I would totally expect. If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised. If I recall in the big, beautiful bill, there's a provision in there that says states may not have any laws regarding artificial intelligence for the next 10 years,
Starting point is 01:33:37 which I find. Not having any laws is one thing, suing over something like this. something else that's different well i mean there is just everyone is up in arms about this a i stuff because of it smartness because of how incredibly quickly it's going to take away all of our jobs no it's the beautiful people who are up in arms retailer j crew faces some criticism now for what some are speculating our ai generated images promoting their brand these photos look just like the j crew ads of the past but they may not be real the website blackbird spy plane
Starting point is 01:34:14 pointed out some glitches in the clothing and photo distortions. In a statement released to the cut, J. Crew said it is exploring some new forms of creative expression and experimenting with different art mediums. Critics are concerned the AI models are just cutting out workers who would otherwise get paid. Oh no. What will beautiful people do? They're cutting out the workers. The workers. The models. The beautiful men at J. Crew. What will they do? A.I. is going to put them on the streets. They'll have to be turning tricks now. Yeah, they can go become plumbers.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Electricians, come on. They'd have the right look. And the girls can always find work. Let's face it. Whoa. Hello. According to, by the way, the prime, who was this?
Starting point is 01:35:05 The prime minister, who was this? This was a Swedish prime minister. Prime Minister, Ulf Christensen, admitted in an interview with a Swedish business paper, Dagen's industry, that he frequently uses AI tools such as chat, GBT, and Le Chatt. Where is Le Chatt? I want Le Chatt to seek second opinions on policy decisions. Before proposing or enacting a new policy, Christensen asks Le Chatt questions like, what have others done?
Starting point is 01:35:43 Should we think the complete opposite? Adding that the PM also uses AI platforms to conduct research and bounce ideas around. Well, that sounds good. I don't know if it's anything like these, the lawyers who use it and they come up with phony cases. Of course. That don't exist.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Of course. But it doesn't matter because this thing is just going to keep on going. There's no AI winter coming. Nope. Bloomberg surveillance podcast. says, good times ahead. Heath Terry, head of technology and communications at city research, says, quote, first, AI analyst on Wall Street believes AI revenue will surge to $780 billion in 2030
Starting point is 01:36:24 from $43 billion this year. So from $43 billion to $700 billion in six years. What do you think? Possible? Well, the problem is, is that it's, it'll cost $5 trillion. I don't know, maybe. It'll cost $5 trillion to make it, but that may be the revenue. Yeah, they can't even get to the trillion.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Is this market underpriced? Look, that's the way we look at it. I mean, you know, we are in the very early stages of this AI cycle. A lot of things that sort of matter to driving growth, are about to clear in gross favor, the bottlenecks that we've seen in capacity constraints, the model development advances that we're seeing, particularly around agentic AI. And then, of course, the biggest of those being what we think could be called AI squared, the idea that AI on its own can start programming AI.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Oh, that's what I'm looking for. AI squared. Notice also yesterday that anyone else. What? That's not going to happen. happen. Oh, that's what's coming. It's going to program itself. This reminds me. This would be like those boxing robots. Rock em-sockham robots? No, the ones that the Chinese have been, they're having matches. Have you seen these videos? Yeah, we talked about it. It's horrible. Yeah, the guy that. I mean,
Starting point is 01:37:52 you can keep that robot's ass in a second. Like, boom. They suck. The idea that AI on its own can start programming AI. I noticed also yesterday that an analyst from e-marketer said, we have to see returns on these investments and soon. And the threat is these big hyperscalers may pull back on the margin in terms of capex if they don't start to see return soon on the applications, on the AI applications that they're powering. What do you think about that? Look, I don't think there's any chance of that, right? Right, right. I mean, we go back a year ago and you had the CEOs of Alphabet, Meta, Microsoft, all get on their earnings calls and say some version of the risk of overinvesting is far less than the risk of underinvesting in this space.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And then we fast forward a year later, and they've all said, you know what, even though we believe that, we actually underinvested and capacity constraints are still there. And so you don't see that kind of demand outstripping supply if the returns aren't there. IDC has had one that said that, you know, CFO or CIOs are getting, you know, 3.7X for every dollar they put into AI. And the returns, and admittedly, they're early returns, but the early returns show that this stuff is working at the enterprise level. Oh, it's working at the enterprise level, John.
Starting point is 01:39:12 It's all good. The enterprise is into it. The enterprise is being. Wait a minute. How are you getting 3.7 times per dollar? So they're getting $3.70 for every dollar they invest? Where's the evidence of this? There's no evidence of it.
Starting point is 01:39:28 None. This thing is a scam. And it's a scam. I mean, it's great. This pattern matching is great. It's great. I love code. I code in Python and I've figured it out.
Starting point is 01:39:43 You've got to have three different. I want Lechat. But I use Grock. I use chat. I want to use Lechette. And you post. You know, for a guy who thinks this is a scam and a dead end and a piece of crap, you, you are all in. Let me explain.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I am all in because I know what this costs. And while it's still cheap... So you're all in because you're taking advantage. You think it's like they're shipping a $5 bill for every hour you spend. In other words, for all practical purposes, they're sending you money the more you use it. Correct. I love that part.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Now, you really have to know what you're doing to get anything functional out of it. But even in the past couple of days, the network disconnects on Chad, CTPT, and GROC are very frequent. And it just sits there and says, oh, the network is disconnected. But my internet didn't disconnect. So I don't know what your disconnect is, but they throw up this disconnect. Look, I run web UI. I can run these models at home. Takes forever.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Takes forever. You get the answers out of it. But it's, and it's just matching. I mean, I'm asking things that people have programmed a million times over, and it sucked it all up into the internet and Python code. Like, oh, here's the code. That's how you do it. This someone, some other dofus did this.
Starting point is 01:41:10 It does that very well. Now, it saves me the trip to stack overflow. But not when I'm trying to run a model at home. No, so I might as well run this really quick model while it's still costing me 20 bucks a month. There's no way this condescending. sustain itself. No, there's no way. And it's certainly not thinking.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Well, nobody ever said it was. Oh, we're so close to super intelligence. It'll be chat CPT6. That'll be the model when it's so, we're so close to AGI. ASI is next. Oh, it's happening. It's not. But the chat bots.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Oh, yeah. That's the big. business right there. Make those cheap and you're in. You'll be sued, but make those cheap. It'll be worth it. Hopefully it will be sued. That'll change everything. So I got some international news, which you never play enough of on this show. Oh, okay. Or I got TikTok clips. International news, please. I'll take international news for 500, Alex. Boy, Indonesia mess. Oh, yeah. Let me see. Yes, I have heard about this. A friend of mine is on his way to Indonesia, actually. Protesters in Indonesia have stormed the home.
Starting point is 01:42:26 of several politicians, including the country's finance minister and looted luxury items. There have been widespread demonstrations across the country after lawmakers increased their salaries despite a cost of living crisis. Asadestra Agingrastri reports from Jakarta. This week is a fragile one for Indonesia. What began as a protest against the additional $3,000 housing allowance for parliament members has now escalated into demonstrations against police brutality. The unrest prompted President Prabuosubianto to cancel a scheduled trip to China to personally monitor the situation.
Starting point is 01:43:04 With protests now entering nearly a week, many people describe the atmosphere in Jakarta and other cities as tense, fearing for their clashes between police and the public. Yeah, yeah. So they're raiding the parliament members' houses and stealing their stuff. Yeah. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. That'll get to teach him a lesson.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Gets people's attention. Okay, now we got a Mexico mess. Oh, man, another mess. Thousands of people have held protests across Mexico to mark the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances. Relatives and friends of missing people, as well as human rights activists, have marched through the streets of Mexico City, Guadalajara, Cordoba, and other cities, calling for justice and government action.
Starting point is 01:43:53 More than 130,000 people are reported as, missing in Mexico. Esperanza Chavez has been searching for her brother Miguel for more than a decade. It's remembering our family member whom we must remember every day, but today is the most important one for those of us who have a missing loved one. What I would ask of the government and especially of President Seymbaum is that they find them. I have been searching for my brother since 2014. Most of the disappearances are links to the country's notorious drug cartels, which often target the young and vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Yeah. Yeah. You know, what we also have coming up is September 11th. We'll have another. I'm sure everyone's already putting their packages together to traumatize the American people all over again. Which is actually, you know, I got a note from a millennial.
Starting point is 01:44:53 mom boots on the ground and it was quite interesting because she said I want to give you my boots on the ground report as a millennial mom and and she
Starting point is 01:45:08 and I've heard this before like we got screwed basically you know we all saw 9-11 we got traumatized by it then you know we had the financial crisis, the housing crisis.
Starting point is 01:45:27 We got sci-opt into, you know, going into debt and getting worthless degrees. We're told we'd make, you know, $150,000 and then COVID. And I'm like, yeah. Well, doesn't every generation have its horrible, I mean, I remember the Vietnam War. I remember my friends' brothers, older brothers coming home in boxes. I remember 14% interest rate. I remember gas lines. Not to 20.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Yes, 20. Can you imagine? For a house, 20%. Yeah. I mean, every generation goes through its incredible trauma. You know, you also saw the rise of the Internet, online porn. Come on, come on now. You can't complain about everything. a lot of good things happened in your time.
Starting point is 01:46:25 But it seems like there's a pity party going on for themselves. Pity party. A pity party, yeah. And, I mean, how about, think of, now, you're a little bit older than I am, so you do cross into true boomer territory. I'm a true boomer. So. I'm not like on the cusp.
Starting point is 01:46:46 So what kind of, I mean, your parents went through World War II, not a little thing. And the depression. The real depression, not the great recession, but the real depression. Yeah, they were in the Depression and World War II. So what else? I mean, let's just line them up because I'm sorry, that's life. And somehow, it feels to me like the millennials are saying, we got screwed, not like anybody else. That's not true. Oh, your sympathy for this woman is, has no bounds. Well, on the other hand, you know, Matt from Martel Hardware? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Now, he's a millennial. He says, our kid's an alpha, a gen alpha. Ooh, he's got it. Yeah, he's got an alpha. We got it all covered by the alphas, but the alphas are just little kids. Yeah, but listen to this. We enrolled our Generation Alpha son into an SAT prep course this summer. The first thing he said to me when I picked him up after that first session was,
Starting point is 01:47:48 Dad, I need a wristwatch. How about that? A real one? A real one? Matt says, I ran upstairs, pulled my old Victorinox Swiss Army watch out of a drawer. And my son is now wearing this reading clock happily. Eh, it's good. I think we helped out somehow.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I hope so. Yeah. The months of the year, turns out that's not just the U.S. That's also in the U.K. According to Baron of Milford in Staffordshire, England, Commodore of the no agenda, the Navy, no agenda, doctor of education and climate change, science, graduate of the class of 2024. So you know, that guy's legit. And I see, he was teaching A-level accounting, 16 to 18-year-old students at a very good international school in Cambridge between 2019, 2024.
Starting point is 01:48:49 knowing the months of the year in accounting is crucial for calculation, deprecation, I would think accruals and prepayments, and is a skill that is tested often in exams from A-level to professional exams in bookkeeping, financial accounting, management accounting, financial management papers. Students at the school struggled with calculating the number of months to use in an accounting operation and frequently got the answers wrong. At first, I thought it was a language issue of my lack of direction as a relatively new teacher. But as the years went by, it got worse and worse, and latterly students could not even tell you how many weeks there were in a year or how many days in a year.
Starting point is 01:49:32 I had to constantly drill them to get this right in an almost comical fashion as I would with very young primary school students. Fellow teachers of the subject told me that it was the same across the UK and state schools, which does not give me hope for the future of the performance. that I've been a part of for 40 years. Don't even know how many weeks there are in a year. Wow. It's just a number, 52, people, 52. It's easy to remember. You're a kid.
Starting point is 01:50:01 It's the number 52. It's not hard. I guess it's like a dozen. How many cards in a deck of cards? 52. That's right. That's right. Well, actually, there's usually a couple of jokers in there too.
Starting point is 01:50:15 But remember the game, the 52 card pickup? That was always a good one. That was always a good one. It wasn't a game. No, it was not a game. It was not a game. Okay, last international clip, you know, they talk about everyone, oh, that's free Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, Palestine. Where in the world is the big, real problem?
Starting point is 01:50:36 That's the massive famine, murder, killings. Oh, let me guess. Let me guess. Somewhere in Africa? Yeah, Sudan. The head of a paramilitary group in a civil war with Sudan's, Army has been sworn as the head of a new parallel government, they said in a statement. The parallel administration has been condemned by the U.S. and others.
Starting point is 01:50:57 NPR's Emanuel Akindewa reports the move pushes the country closer towards a formal partition after two years of a war. Mohamed Hamdan Daghalo, the leader of the paramilitary rapid support forces, was sworn in as the head of a parallel government, the new parallel administration said in a statement. The RSF leader, who has rarely been seen in Sudan since the war started, was sworn in the Sudanese city of Niala, the statement said, and he leads a group that includes armed groups and allied civilian figures. The announcement comes amid intense fighting in Sudan, which is suffering the world's largest humanitarian crisis and largest famine in decades. The Sudanese army have
Starting point is 01:51:32 largely taken control of northern, central and eastern Sudan, where the RSF remains mostly in control of the western region of Darfur, where it's widely accused of committing another genocide against African ethnic groups. Immanuel Akimoto, NPR News, Lagos. So what weapons do you think are you being used in the Sudan War? I don't know. I'm just going to guess. I'm just going to guess it's U.S. weapons. Well, I think there are probably a lot of Russian weapons, too.
Starting point is 01:52:02 AK-47s are better than our stuff. Well, they're certainly built to last. Let me see. Let me see if I can find out. It's a more practical product. Let me see. What are they using? Uh, okay, AKs.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Now, they are using a lot of Russian stuff, some Chinese stuff. Hmm. The UAE makes stuff? I guess. Why not? It's a good business. Oh, interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:40 By the way, I want to mention something. I can't find the note I was looking for it. um to so i can give the credit to the person but we finally had a baby named after the show no and you lost the note i'll get the note i'll read it in the next show what is the kid's name me me me that's it me me me that's they used the name me me me he used me me's name instead of you i worked my butt off for 18 years and they named the kid me me yeah you did Well, no. Okay. I was waiting for like the second and third name, like Mimi, John Adam, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi, yeah. Oh, well. Yeah, isn't that ironic? The next kid will be named Jay.
Starting point is 01:53:30 With that, I want to thank you for your currency in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the colored fruit loop. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. Doran. Yeah, whoa, in the morning, in the morning, Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning, ship, C, Bush, McGrath, and the other subs of the water, dames and nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello, trolls, stop. The gentleman, counting.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Not bad for Labor Day weekend, 1973. Still a little on the low side, but not as low as I thought it would be. That's pretty good. Yeah, people are traveling. Yes, although they, many less travelers than expected. I heard from AAA somewhere. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Gasoline prices are down, so why travel? And people are having staycations. Stacations. Yeah, the old staycation. Yeah, and they've got low tea, so, you know. And they're turning out to be these tourist places. There's nothing but complaining going. I haven't been to Vegas since COVID.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Oh, apparently no one has. Well, they've got the prices jacked to the max. The old buck 99 breakfast steak Breakfast is long gone. Everything's like 50 bucks. The buffet, all you can eat. Yeah. So everything's jacked up. They've jacked up all the prices.
Starting point is 01:54:53 So I looked into it a little bit because I was listening to all the complaining going on. And the whole town has been taken over by an investment company called Vici, VICI. You can look it up. And everything's been on a, except for Wynn and maybe one other operation, the entire city, every one of the casinos, including MGM and Cesar's and everybody, else has been bought up by this one company and everything's on a leaseback. Vichy capital Cleveland-based family office dedicated to generating sustainable wealth and preserving it for the future of themselves. Our experience, it doesn't say that. So are they, that's private equity.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Private equity and they've bought up everything and it's all leaseback, which I don't know about you, but every time I've seen leaseback as examples of that, like in San Francisco, I think it was couple of the famous stores, Gump's, I think was one of them, very famous jewelry and trinkets shop in San Francisco for high-end goods. They did one of these lease back deals. They said, well, yeah, we can buy your company and then you can lease it back. It'll save you all this money and you'll have this cash flow and it's all a positive thing and you have money in the bank and you have working capital and we own the company now, but you get to lease it back. So you're still in business.
Starting point is 01:56:15 And then when you go out of... And then what happens is that the lease back company says, you know, we're going to raise your rates. Oh, we're going to do this. So we're going to... Next thing you know, you're completely out of business. I mean, this is... Vegas is just headed for a complete meltdown disaster.
Starting point is 01:56:31 All the more reason not to go to Vegas. Except for the... If there's something at the sphere, the sphere. You got to go see the dead at the sphere, man. You know, they have a permanent... residency, it seems, at the sphere. The dead? Oh, with John
Starting point is 01:56:49 Mayor. Oh, yeah. Oh, the ladies love John Mayer at the sphere. Well, they're going to have to take forever to pay that thing off. The sphere? That thing's... And it costs, like, a couple billion to build. That thing's making money hand over foot. I mean, people, especially
Starting point is 01:57:05 for the dead show, they're paying up to a thousand bucks. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if anyone realized it, but Jerry Garcia's dead. I know, but John Mayer is there. And all the ladies love John Mayer. Anyway, the trolls are not in Vegas. They're not in the sphere.
Starting point is 01:57:21 They're in the troll room. And I used to say trollroom.io, but I got excoriated for it. So I'll say, noagendorstream.com, everybody. You can just go to noagendorstream.com. Or you can listen on a modern podcast app to be found at podcast. To be found at podcast apps.com. And at podcast apps.com, you'll find these podcasts. apps, that when you use them instead of a legacy app, man, when you subscribe to the
Starting point is 01:57:50 night and day. It is night and day. I mean, you've got chapters and transcripts and, you know, all kinds of goodies. And a lot of these, you know, if you're like, oh, wow, I really want to support the show. You can hit the boost button or you can hit the, the, there's a PayPal button in them. You just hit that and it goes right to the donation page so you don't have to close out. out your, you know, open your browser or do anything like that. And, you know, where do I go?
Starting point is 01:58:19 No, you can go to no agenda donations.com. You can just hit that button. It takes you to know agenda donations.com. It's beautiful. And when we release the bat signal, then automatically you get an alert on your phone. You tap that. Boom, you're listening to the show. Bob's your uncle.
Starting point is 01:58:33 And when we release the show, within 90 seconds of release, you get the show. So I highly recommend you get one of these apps. They are all of them free to use. Some of them have premium features. And then I suggest you support these podcast app developers. We get a lot of support from people in many different ways. You heard several boots on the ground, some very detailed ones. We have the best producers in the universe.
Starting point is 01:58:58 And you can help the show by telling someone about it, propagating the formula, as we call it. You can organize a meetup. There's many things you can do. And we used to have artists who really worked very hard on creating artwork for the show. Now we have prompt jockeys who are basically doing what anybody can do. Well, you still have to have a good idea. That's not true. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:59:20 It's not true. You have to know what you're doing. That's what I said. You have to know what you're doing. I said, anybody can do it. You have to know what you're doing. Anyway, I was very discouraged by the art for 1794. We titled Heroin Hotties.
Starting point is 01:59:36 That would, people found that very interesting. Although some people did look at the art and go, I can't wait to hear what you guys are talking about. This was the clueless kids looking at the calendar. Yeah, mixed up calendar. Digital 2112 man. Now, the problem I have is... No, it was Jeffrey Rhea?
Starting point is 01:59:55 I thought it was it 2112 man. Was it Jeffrey Rhea? Did I get that wrong? Oh, I'll have to change it wrong. I'll have to change the credits. I'm sorry. You're right, it is Jeffrey. I'll change that.
Starting point is 02:00:04 But everything is a cartoon now. Everything's a cartoon. And it all has too much orange in it. This is not a very orangey piece. It's got a lot of blue in it. It's a cartoon. Just another cartoon. You hate cartoons.
Starting point is 02:00:18 You don't like it. You don't like the... I mean, I'd rather take the photo realistic stuff, except, like, you get Scaramanga who does great babes, but who cares? It's just some babes. It's just, that's not a no-agenda art. It's just babes. Okay, well, everything is either a cartoon or a drawing with orange. It's just, it's...
Starting point is 02:00:40 Model collapse is imminent. Everything Jeffrey Reya does now has orange in. Everything Darren O'Neill does has orange in it. This piece does not have that much orange in it. You're complaining about something that doesn't exist. And there was a piece that you liked. Look, that no agenda says it's orange. The kid's shirt is orange.
Starting point is 02:01:02 It's just orange. Yes, there's two things I like. We'll start by saying the Joe Baba. Cracker barrel, no agenda art, right idea, horrible execution. You needed to do a lot more, and you could have won. But the one we both liked a lot, and you chickened out on. I'm like, we should use this. We should use this.
Starting point is 02:01:25 I didn't chicken out. I was wisely determined. I wisely vetoed it. And we do have a veto on this show, on everything. It was the Palestinian guy. He was wearing a shirt. Keep calm and blame the Jews. I thought it was fantastic.
Starting point is 02:01:40 and was done by our shape-shifting shekelmeister, Yarmour. Yeah, Yarmour is Jewish, I believe. No, he's donated. Yeah, he's donated shekels. Yes, and I thought that was hilarious. And you're like, no, we can't do that, man. No, I, but you didn't really push back on me too much. I said, we really should do this one.
Starting point is 02:02:04 And you're like, no, I like the kids. I like the kids. Yeah, you said you were going to make this argument knowing full well that you're, You vetoed it. No, oh, okay. So now when we're not, of course I vetoed it because we're not using it. And then, um, quarter right. You also like the A-gays one.
Starting point is 02:02:22 That's what I'm saying. Quarterite had the right idea with the A-gays. But they're like two chicks in there. What did you put the-chicks doing in there with the handsome gay guys? It was the right idea. You had an idea. And then- Yeah, we figured that you couldn't prompt the chicks away.
Starting point is 02:02:40 The chicks weren't promptable. Hey, where is my, I need an A team jingle for the A guys, A gays. I mean, it seems like such an obvious one. If you're looking for something done in Washington, D.C., do-do-do-dum, you need the A-gays. Come on. Come on, gingle makers. You guys used to be on the game, on the ball. I've dropped it.
Starting point is 02:03:05 I don't know what happened. Grip, gripe, gripe, geez. well okay gee i'm really happy that our art is all generated generated by computers we have no more end of show mixes because everyone's just tired of it because it takes actual work except for the people who send in five minute songs look i made an end of show mix it's like look i'm a developer now look at me developers developers developers exactly so five minutes songs that's true They can't seem to get the, they can't seem to prompt it. Hey, short, one minute max.
Starting point is 02:03:46 Won't the prompt take that? I don't get it. No, I don't think so. I think it's very hard to... There's like prompting out the women in the eight-gays piece. Yeah. I mean, these sumo and all, suno, I think it is, they're used to making pop songs.
Starting point is 02:04:02 You can't do something that it has never done. Well, I've never done a pop song that's one minute. minute long. I can't do that. Here's the structure. I don't know how to do it. That's exactly it. They have a predisposed, they're predisposed towards a structure and everything has to fit within the structure. Yeah. Until. Yeah, it's like, you know, but eventually we'll have a new sex pistols, you know, we'll have a new Lori Anderson. We'll have a, we'll have a print. Something new will come along. It always does. And then the AI will swallow that up and then we'll have thousands of those songs.
Starting point is 02:04:39 I had Laurie Anderson at the house once. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, oh, Superman, oh, John. Hello, I'm not, what? It's like, hello, I'm not home right now. I love that song. It was eight minutes. For those of you who never heard it.
Starting point is 02:04:56 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. So what was she doing at the house? We had a party and Steve Beck, one of the local, uh, or he was, I think he's in Japan now, a local, a developer, an inventor. Developer, developer? He's an inventor. And he, it was his date, brought her over. No.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Yeah. How was she? How was she? Well, you look at it, if she comes to, they come in and you look, you have to stare and you go, that's Lori Anderson. Here we go. Because she's very distinctive looking. Oh, I didn't have the tempo right.
Starting point is 02:05:29 This is eight minutes and 37 seconds long. Oh, Superman. I love this track. I remember the first time I heard that song on the radio. I was like, wow, what is that? So different. Anyway, I'm sure you were not a fan of her music. She's a nice person.
Starting point is 02:05:58 There you go. Not a fan of the music. I mean, it was okay. I mean, it's just like, you know, I'm not a fan of a lot of things. We also, of course, have producers who understand. Oh, man, do you see that guy who sent that note? That I, I, when I hit send, I already regretted hitting send. Oh, what did you do?
Starting point is 02:06:18 No, the guy is like, no, I didn't. The guy's like, I've been listening 10 years for free. But I would consider donating if you admitted that there are shapeshifters, that Q is real. stop rebranding the Great Awakening as the Great Reveal, which we have on, it's called the season of reveal. And I never say it. No.
Starting point is 02:06:43 No, it was only about me, obviously. Yeah. I'm the problem. If you ask anybody about the show, I'm the problem. Except for the fact that you're the one that produces the show. Oh, no, no. No, no. People should realize that I've, a couple of things I complain about.
Starting point is 02:07:01 I mean, I can complain about a lot of things, But one of my main complaints is that no one has recognized officially the quality of the production of this show, which is all on Adam's shoulders, because he is the CTO of this operation. That sounds like a disease. I'm the CTO of this operation. He's the CTO of the operation. And he's responsible for the overall sound quality and the fact that the show, the way it goes out and everything in between. and he has never received anything for this effort. And it irks me.
Starting point is 02:07:35 And I engineer it. People often say, so does John have clips on his side? No. Well, well, do I send the clips to Adam? Yeah, and I don't listen to him. I cue the clips, but I don't fly the clips. Are you looking at each other?
Starting point is 02:07:51 Does he give you a like a finger sign to cue the clips? No. I said, do you have a light? Does he press a button? The light is what I need. Does he press a button? And the light comes on? No.
Starting point is 02:08:06 No. No. No, we have a mechanism that we use, which is just a cueing system where I'll say something like, I've got this clip about Mexico. Yeah. And then I'll chat it up and he'll go down the line and look and make sure I didn't spell it Texaco. Exactly. I feel like I don't see anything under M.
Starting point is 02:08:27 And where is it? Where is it? Where is it? And then you hear the, every once in a while, he says, I can't find the clip. And he yells at me. Frustrated. But there's always, it is my fault in these instances because I do a lot of typos on the list.
Starting point is 02:08:43 I've gotten used to them. I know what to look for by now. It's okay. But the point is, is that this has never been rewarded. No. A little small trophy? I don't think, I think it doesn't bother me what. Uh, just send your cat.
Starting point is 02:08:57 I don't want a trophy. Your cash. I don't want no stinking trophy. That's probably true, but anyway. But, you know. So we have a lot of producers who do understand that we need money to keep alive, to stay alive to pay bills. And this is the only income we have,
Starting point is 02:09:17 and we appreciate that people have kept it going for so long. And we'll see how much longer it goes. And this is usually when people send me to know, well, you know, you've changed. I don't know. Have you changed in 18 years? You haven't. Everyone changes in 18 years, but to be honest about it, we haven't, since we started off fairly mature, we haven't changed that much.
Starting point is 02:09:42 No, it's always, John is the same. You've changed. I don't see it. And you should. He's always been a Zionist shill. This has been going on for a long time. And you shouldn't make fun of the producers. That's not.
Starting point is 02:09:57 right we pay your rent well that's actually a mistake you see this is that this is a lack of understanding of the of the formula to say that yes because because producers like attention the artists like it more the artists are attention driven and so so berating them is actually a they like it fulfills some sort of some sort of idealism that they they provide themselves and say, you know, everybody in the world hates the greatness of our art, and the fact that we're artists. And here's a good example. Listen to these guys ragging on us.
Starting point is 02:10:34 And I'll show them. Yeah, but notice they're all gone. No, they just decided to become prompt jockeys. There's not a single artist left. They're all gone, ma'am. They're all gone. There's actually a drawing in one of these upcoming ones. It's a pretty funny one, too.
Starting point is 02:10:53 No, it's a be more like. Scott Horton, at least Dave Smith is consistent. I'm human being. I'm very inconsistent. That's how it works. Scott Horton. Yes. He did 10 hours with Lex Friedman.
Starting point is 02:11:11 People sent it to me. You should watch this. Oh, yeah. That would be the day. You should watch this. Oh, boy. I watch a lot that people say. Yeah, you can watch that.
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Starting point is 02:15:07 Says Scott Reddicker from Great Falls, Montana. You've got karma. Circastic, the nomad in Wyoming. missing while i don't even know in pennsylvania while missing while missing while missing why y'all missing you're missing out and why hundred dollars this donation takes me to the baronet status and secretary general i accept get mo nation if the peerage committee allows sure uh join me in the meetup on september 3rd in alabama yes sarcastic the nomad no jingles no karma yeah check it out and no agenda meetups
Starting point is 02:15:54 dot comkel carrie conkel oh she sent me a note carrie did she said how can i she's i'm 63 how can i listen to the show live and i told her noagendastream dot com because that's what i've been told to do arcadia wisconsin yes carrie is from arcadia wisconsin five hundred aradia what did i what did i say i said arcada and then you said it right then i corrected my correction of your correction and my correction. Why are you even talking while I'm talking? Because I'm just, feel like it. First time donation. Well, that's a deduished. You've been deduished. I just got a flood advisory for Gillespie County. Is that where you are? I'm in Gillespie County, yeah, but we're up high. So we should be okay. But anyone who's in Gillespie
Starting point is 02:16:45 County, pay attention to these warnings. Thanks for bringing humor into my world twice a week. Please send jobs karma for my daughter. Thank you. very much. Well, of course. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. She only gets humor in her world twice a week. That's it. It's bleak out there, man. Matt in Brighton, UK, 382, 82. And just since he's from the UK, I do have a bonus clip that we played during these donation segments. A bonus clip. All right. bonus clip what is the bonus this is the uh bonus this is the which clip is this i'm looking
Starting point is 02:17:29 uh onerous this is the i have a series of these clips this is the latest one this is onerous new u k laws uk no id no groceries from september 12th a shocking new supermarket rule comes into force without a government issued photo id you will not be allowed to enter any supermarket in the u k even for basic essentials like bread or milk. Officials claim it's to stop shoplifting and fraud, but critics say it will destroy daily life for millions. This means teenagers, pensioners without passports, and anyone who's simply forgotten their wallet
Starting point is 02:18:08 could be turned away at the door. Supermarkets will have staff at entrances, checking IDs, and shoppers say this feels like airport-style security, just to buy food. Campaigners warn it's the start of a time, two-tier shopping system that could permanently change the way Britain shops and eats. And here's the worst part. Fail the ID check once and you could be banned from that store for a month.
Starting point is 02:18:33 Many are now asking, is this really about safety or is it the beginning of a stricter control system, quietly reshaping how ordinary people live, move, shop, budget and survive in Britain today? I have a question about this clip. Are you sure this is true? Because your last onerous UK clip turned out to be fake news, bro. Ah. Yeah. About the cash, like, that people had to pay a thousand pounds for the immigrants.
Starting point is 02:19:09 But I know there's some cash restrictions going on. But I have the clip. If you want to hear it, everyone was emailing me, of course, because somehow it's all my fault. Yeah, well, you played it Well, I think we need a mea culpa You got caught Okay, well, if the clip was bad This could be bad too
Starting point is 02:19:28 This guy could be full of shit He may be just a bad actor Okay, well, and people are like I'm very disappointed You didn't check it out Before you just played it Well, you just can check out everything These are just clips
Starting point is 02:19:41 Okay, I'm sorry I played a bad clip But it's entertaining It was bad, although I will say that the truth of the cash restrictions is that the UK banks could report you under suspicious activity report if you withdraw too much cash. So I give it a half at Pinocchio. So Matt in Brighton gives us 2802, 82, and writes, ITM, John and Adam, started listening in late 2007. I went back and listened from episode one. Oh, man, you torture yourself.
Starting point is 02:20:28 You have kept me de-woked for nearly the last two decades. This donation completes my knighthood. I pay for this with some of my gains for an investment in meta based on John Sage advice in episode 1484. That's where I won the bet. I'm glad he didn't listen to me. This donation would not be happening if he had listened to me. Since then, the stock has rallied 190%.
Starting point is 02:20:57 Nice. So the round table, I would like to bring, to have bong hits and a double IPA. There you go. All right. So he's getting knighted. And he's from the UK. So he has all those gains from meta, but he can't withdraw it. Matthew Montgomery is in Arvada
Starting point is 02:21:18 Arvada, Colorado. Arvada, Arvada, I think. 333. Our big dumb mouth, Gurka, Gurka, Gurka, Gurka. They're just Durka, Durka, Dirka, Dukkah. I know what you meant. I got you covered. Dame Astrid.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Hey. She's in Tokyo. She's the Duchess, the Grand Duchess. Also, the note came from a combination. here. It looks like Sir Mark is involved. Happy birthday, Adam. $261. Just following up on Dame
Starting point is 02:21:51 Edstrom's note and donations, here's a photographic meetup report from the idle beer bar Clybloom, Cibloom, Cibloom. Where we welcomed Sebastian of the Gitmo Lowlands.
Starting point is 02:22:07 We were joined by Abhe, Harold, and Brandon, plus more idiots then you could possibly count. Idols. Oh, I'm sorry. Idols. Idols.
Starting point is 02:22:18 Don't say that about our meet-up in Tokyo. I got my blurred vision. The beers were delicious and the girls especially enjoyed sampling the strup waffle that Sebastian had imported especially for the evening. Nice. I bet I can just see those Japanese girls going, What's the, what's the, what's the par? I suspect that John upon seeing the bar,
Starting point is 02:22:42 and photos may finally be tipped over the edge to visit Tokyo. I've been there. So I have visited, but not you guys. It's still ridiculously hot here, so we'll raise a glass of hop, idol, and fat tug in your honor. Fat tug. No, that doesn't sound right.
Starting point is 02:23:01 As we celebrate your birthday, thank you for your courage, Sir Mark. Fat tug. That's a great name for a beer. Oh, wow, I get the long one here. Dunaman, Seneca, Illinois, 250, Associate Executive Producer, D. Mr. Curry, I hope this message finds you well. My name is Aaron Studeman, and my husband and I are big fans of yours.
Starting point is 02:23:22 Over the past three years, we've revitalized a historic lumberyard building in Seneca, Illinois. Within this space now called the lumberyard, nicely named, we've created a unique coffee shop, retail store, nine professional offices in art gallery and community gathering spaces, including our own farmer's market. Wow. I want to visit that. Our mission is to spark creativity and connection in a rural town that has so much untapped potential. One of the opportunities we're exploring is starting a podcast here at the lumberyard. As the podfather and someone who has shaped the medium from its earliest days,
Starting point is 02:23:57 your insight would mean the world to us. Specifically, we'd love your perspective on bullet point one. What makes a podcast born in a small rural community stand out? Answer, make it about your community. Read notes from your community. Have your community send in stuff. That's how you do it. Don't try to be Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 02:24:18 Be about your community. Bullet point two. How best to structure and launch so it uplifts both the voices of our town and listeners beyond it? Focus on your town and launch and tell everybody about it and have those people tell people. And if listeners beyond hear it, then that's great. But focus on your town. Three, pitfalls we should avoid as first-time podcasters building something with local impact. Okay, for every podcast of the golden rules.
Starting point is 02:24:48 One, how long should your podcast be? Until you find yourself boring. Stop at that moment. Second golden rule, no matter the frequency you release, make it on the same day around the same time, whether it's weekly, twice a week, once a month, the same day, the same time. If you don't, people who build their lives around your life, your podcast will miss it, we'll go look for something else, and they may never come back. Golden Rule number three.
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Starting point is 02:25:44 and your thoughts are appreciated as we explore the best way to get started in bringing a podcast opportunity to our rural community. Thank you for all you've done to make podcasting what it is today. Your vision continues to inspire those of us who believe in the power of voices and stories to connect communities everywhere. Yes, and I wrote a hyper-local podcast primer, as John would say, on Substack. I think it's Adam C-1999 Substack. And thank you, Aaron, for your...
Starting point is 02:26:09 support and for your note. And when you have the podcast up and running, send me a link and I'll promote it. That's how easy it is. In a nutshell. What I meant by that was nobody ever asks Adam ever for his advice. That's right. But anyone can do it. We don't have to do it on the show. You can call them at home. Here's my number. 650. Rita Stetch. Steckich, Steckich, Steckich, 231.85, Steckich, that's not sure how to pronounce it. But she did send a sheet in, like a month ago, that Jay carefully put aside, and we don't encourage this. No, you got lucky. She got lucky, but here she is, and she wrote it's a handwritten note, and I have to, I'll, I can do it.
Starting point is 02:27:03 I can. Hi, John and Adam, my name is Rita, rhymes with, uh, stextish, she rhymes with, um, message. Stetsch. Steggge. Okay. From Ogden, Dunes, Indiana,
Starting point is 02:27:15 uh, on the shore of Lake Michigan. The donation is dedicated to my son, Tom, who lives, who is, who, who,
Starting point is 02:27:23 something, who turns 40 on August 31st. Ah, ah, a surprise for Tom. Hey, Tom, how you doing? That's Tom.
Starting point is 02:27:31 Now I get you. That's the amount is 231.85. Tom introduced me to your show. We enjoyed, uh, dissecting your discussions since this is a first donation that deduishing is in order. You've been deduished.
Starting point is 02:27:49 Please, this is the Switcheroo. Put the donation under his name is Switcheroo Tom. Tom. He's a busy guy as a financial analyst, a financial planner, a volunteer fireman, EMT, and a search and rescue guy. So maybe we got ants, jobs, and jobs jingle would be. be great. We got answer jobs, jobs. Okay. Please add his name to the birthday list. Should be on there, I think, since this is the whole thing. In the future, I plan to donate using
Starting point is 02:28:23 the donation button on your site. Hope this, I hope this will save you more money. Yes. Actually, Checks is the best. Yes. Yeah. Box 339, El Cerrito, California. No agenda show. Adam's European knowledge and John's boomer perspective, and tips are appreciated. Oh, tips. Keep deconstructing the news for at least four more years. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Sincerely, Rita, please read on August 31st, and that's what you got. Yeah, we did it.
Starting point is 02:28:56 All right, Rita, and we'll make sure the switcher was in for Tom. Here's your ants as requested. I got ants. I got ants. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Wow, really coming down here right now.
Starting point is 02:29:25 Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana, 21911, and he says, God's peace and blessings to all St. Maria Goretti, pray for us. All right, thank you. Hello, and somebody's hijacked Linda Lou Patkin's account from Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks. What is this new copy we have? I don't know. Jobs, Palmer.
Starting point is 02:29:49 Well, listening to the greatest podcast in universe shows discerning taste and superior intellect. It's really only appropriate to put your producer credit on resumes. Oh, this is because you asked for this. Targeting media, production, entertainment, and, of course, podcasting. as your SME on resumes, it's important that you have compelling messaging that showcases skills and experience that are most relevant to your target audience also. There's a limited real estate on a resume, but it's nice to have it on LinkedIn. For more subject matter, expertise, go to ImageMakersink.com.
Starting point is 02:30:27 That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes best, Linda. By the way, I've been reliably informed that SME is pronounced Smee, for some reason. Even though it's subject matter expert, and it's an acronym, I've been told it's pronounced Smee. So if you want to be... People say Smee, I think somebody's putting you on. Maybe. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Let's vote for jobs. You thought, how am I. All right. Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers. As always. These are real. These are very real credits. This is just like Hollywood. You can put it anywhere that credits are recognized. It is good on your LinkedIn.
Starting point is 02:31:11 It is good on your resume. Yeah, I'm a subject matter expert in deconstruction from the No Agenda Show. I help produce it, executive producer or associate executive producer. Of course, you can always put it on your IMDB profile. Wait, you don't have an IMDB.com account. Well, you do now because it is official. You can use it. And we thank these executive and associate executive producers.
Starting point is 02:31:32 Remember us at No agenda donations. is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Water. Shut up, Wade. Shut up. What's this friendship thing you had? I always look, whenever you have a sequence of clips, I wasn't going to make sure we get to it
Starting point is 02:32:04 because that means you put some work into it. Well, I clipped it. And you cut it. You clipped and cut. I clipped and cut. Yeah, you have to cut. This is an interesting thing about friendships. This was a presentation done on NPR about keeping friends, having friends.
Starting point is 02:32:24 And it was so skewed toward the female side of the universe. They had nobody that knew what they were talking about. But it was a pathetic, interesting, but pathetic presentation that I couldn't help but clip. The story that always comes up is about the cereal tricks. This morning, a big announcement. I'm sorry, that's food dies for some reason. Nice dry. By the way, they're so well-timed.
Starting point is 02:32:51 Don't say anything. I'll cut it out. No one will ever notice the difference. Why do some friendships survive for decades will others fade away? NPR Life, hatecoast, Mariel Segera, has tips on how to maintain. long-lasting friendships, even in the busy season of your life. Here's a common scenario. You've got this long-standing friend who never seems to make an effort to see you.
Starting point is 02:33:13 You love them, but you're getting frustrated. This can happen, especially if you live far away from each other or you have a lot of responsibilities. Nina Badsen, who hosts a podcast about friendship called Dear Nina, Conversations about Friendship, says friendships do take effort, but not everyone shows it in the same way. I really believe that we just need to redefine what effort looks like because we all have very different skill sets. And even with an old friend that we know very well, we're all human and it's still hard not to expect other people to do friendship exactly the way we do or exactly the way it was always done between you and this friend. She says if you find yourself getting frustrated with a friend for this reason, consider the ways they do put in effort, how they always remember your birthday or send you a text on the day of an important doctor appointment. Or FaceTime you randomly to check in.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Also, she says, consider talking to the friend about how you feel. You could say something like, look, I love the time we spend together. Oh, my goodness. We need instructions on how to be friends now? Well, this is because these people, these liberals, Lib Joes that work at NPR,
Starting point is 02:34:22 have lost most of their friends. Oh, that's it. They had a meeting like, I'm so lonely. Let's do a segment about that. But yeah, but I don't want it to be about me being lonely. Let's talk about friendship. But no, who, have you ever sent anyone a cute little note on the day of their doctor's appointment? Yes.
Starting point is 02:34:44 Oh, really? Not a cute little note. I might send a text message to someone who has some kind of issue and they have a doctor's appointment. And I will lift them up by saying, hey, man, I'm thinking of you. I'm praying for you. Yes, I do. that regularly. Not even friends, by the way. Just people I know. Oh, you just do it as some sort of routine. That's not a routine. It's when I, I genuinely... Have you done this before you found
Starting point is 02:35:10 Christ? No. No. No. It's the Jesus in me. Okay. So this is religious. It's not religious. So this is part of a new schema. So you didn't normally do this because I don't know anybody who does this. I know a lot of people who do it. Yeah, they're all in that church. Yeah, that's right. That's right. How horrible. I would find, there was not that, I would find it offensive that people were spying on me knowing I was going to the doctor. No, no, it's only if they told me like, hey, man, I got this procedure coming up. Like, Mike, Mike is 81. Mike is such a good guy. He's, his eyes are all shot, you know. He's like, he was going for an operation. His eyes were shut for three days. So I sent him a note before and I sent him a note after. My other buddy, Brent, he went
Starting point is 02:35:59 to get his hair transplanted or something. So, you know, and it's... I hope you get good luck with your hair transplant. I would think that was an insulting note. I insulted him once it was dumb because they had to shave off part of his hair. So, of course. And, you know, then he's like, stop making me laugh. It hurts.
Starting point is 02:36:17 My scalp hurts when I like, yeah. Yes, I do that. Yes, I do. Okay. Sorry, sorry to burst your bubble about me. And by the way, I think I've also checked in on you when you had, when you had, when you had your cataract procedure? No, you didn't.
Starting point is 02:36:33 Well, I hadn't found Jesus. But I will next time. For the next important procedure you have, I'll send you a nice note. I don't, I would refuse to broadcast to everybody I know a procedure. So I was having, you know, something they had to be done. I wouldn't do that. I had a tooth removed recently.
Starting point is 02:36:52 Oh, if I had known, I would have said, hey, man, I'm praying for you. Well, I wouldn't want that kind of. This is the kind of annoying thing that. that you've developed these bad habits. Onward to part two. And I don't mind that I make a lot of the plans, but... I would like to know that you really want these invitations. Every so often if you could initiate one.
Starting point is 02:37:14 And it gives a friend the opportunity to say, oh, I'm so glad you said something. I love that you reach out first because I just can't get myself together to even see on my calendar when I would have a date opening. A conversation can happen then. And you can't have a conversation.
Starting point is 02:37:29 if you don't bring it up. In general, Badsen finds that the friendships that last share two qualities. One is people don't keep score, or they might keep score, but they check those on that. The other quality is that the friends give each other the benefit of the doubt. Like they assume the best of their friends. Here's what that means. If a friend forgets to text you or they disappear for a spell, remember, they probably have a lot of other stuff going on. A lapsing connection doesn't necessarily mean your friendship is over or that they don't care about you.
Starting point is 02:37:59 And if they do something that hurts you, understand they probably didn't intend to. And talk with them about it when you're ready. There is a quote I love by a former guest of mine, Ruhi Kovall is her name. And she's an educator. She's a relationship coach. And she said there are people who never disappoint us. And those people are called acquaintances. Yeah, see, I think you're barking up the wrong tree here, man.
Starting point is 02:38:25 Like there are some people, few, but who I. We text something every morning. And the other day, I didn't text back because I got busy. And then my friend texted me, say, hey, brother, I'm just checking in because, you know, I haven't heard from me. You just want to make sure you're okay. I'm like, oh, yeah, no, I forgot. And sorry, and thanks for checking in on me.
Starting point is 02:38:49 And, you know, and I've told you about the poop app. Did I tell you about the poop app? No, but I'm about to hear about it. Yeah. A poop app? Yes. So when I was visiting Christina last April, I think it was, she said, Dad, Dad, Dad, you got to join our league.
Starting point is 02:39:08 I said, what is this? So this is an app called Poop Map. And every single time you poop, you hit the button, you drop a poop, and then you make up some funny thing. Like, you know, well, let me read. Christina just released some underwear rainbows. Demure manure took a load off their mind. Just made a grand entrance to the septic soiree.
Starting point is 02:39:36 And this is like eight of her friends and they let me join. And if I forget to register my poop, you know, they check in with me. Hey, are you okay? You haven't pooped in the last three days. Yeah, this is the modern friendship, man. This is how it goes. You should get with it. You want to join our league?
Starting point is 02:39:53 No. Okay. Wow. I think we found out a little bit too much. It's great. Hey, it's a great way. Yeah, it's great. I just pooped.
Starting point is 02:40:09 Hey, guess what? It's like, what, a bunch of three-year-olds? Hey, Daddy, I pooped in my pants. No, because we, no, because we have really, the trick is. Oh, because of the one-liners. Yeah, you got to do the one-liners. Yeah, exactly. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:40:21 Yes. Hey, at least I know my kid is alive is good. Part three. Badzen says any long-standing friendships are going to require forgiveness and humility. It really requires humility to assume the best because what that means, assuming the best means, I don't know the whole story, so I'm going to assume there's some information I don't have. Okay, one more tip from Badzen. One of the greatest gifts you can give to a long-standing friend is allowing them to change.
Starting point is 02:40:53 Most of us want to be able to develop and change our mind. about things. There's not a lot of hope in the world if we have to keep all the same opinions and interests that we had from the time we were 10 years old, 15, even 20s, even 30s. It's really important to give your friends space to try different ways of living. As you and your friends navigate romantic partnerships, career changes, illnesses, financial ups and downs, births and deaths, just be there. Love them. Let them be who they are and who they're becoming. This was a total waste of airtime, that's for sure. Like, who needs this?
Starting point is 02:41:34 Either friends or you're not friends. There are a bunch of people that have lost a lot of friends to republicanism. And now they're trying to say, it's okay if they become a Republican. Maybe you can, you know, still say hello. Oh, bull crap. They're not going to do that. You know that that's not true. No, but this is what, this is wishful thinking.
Starting point is 02:41:54 This is the kind of thing you get on NPR now. These people are pathetic. Yes. all right and that was the point of it yeah since it is a uh although we did find out more than we needed to know we went from jesus to the poop map i don't know man this is what a show what a show ladies and gentlemen uh so um you may not play the ticot three way girl that's a disgusting clip you may play any of the other two oh you saw that one yeah i saw that one it's dumb. It's insultingly dumb.
Starting point is 02:42:28 Well, I do have a screwball one. Yeah. By a comedian, the guy, he's not really a comedian, but he's like, this is a bonus clip that you should have gotten. Oh, I'm sorry. I did not know that you didn't text me. You didn't, you're right. That was my, you're right,
Starting point is 02:42:44 because I haven't sent a bonus clip in for so long. I forgot I was supposed to text you. You didn't send me a note like a good friend would do. Yeah. Hey, I've got a bonus. How's your poop coming? I got a bonus clip for you. So you can retrieve it while I explain this clip. Yes, you explain it.
Starting point is 02:43:04 So this guy is a, I can't call him a comic, but he's an absurdist. And he uses the concept of reductio odd absurdum to make points. And that's a concept that you reduce things to the essence to the point that it's absolutely absurd and he does this and his main thing is to go after uh transgender's the whole idea of you're a woman if you say you're a woman uh identifiers and so this is one of his better pieces he's identified as taylor swift for a while but now this is the one where he's identifying and this is a guy's name is josh seltter and he identified and you have it yes i have it i was ready to fire and then you and he said and he's uh and he's identifies in this case and he's got all the
Starting point is 02:44:02 right memes in here including the shaking hands he identifies as an american indian i am literally shaking right now i went to a casino for the first time in my life and while i was there i tried the buffet in their wild cop bice as i was driving home my stomach started going crazy so i stopped at the reservation on the side of the road and ran into the management office. Some lady comes out from behind a desk and she's like, can I help you, sir? And I said, yeah, I need to use the bathroom. And she's like, are you part of the tribe here? And I explained to her, I was assigned the wrong origin at birth, but I identify as Native American and I go by walking tomahawk.
Starting point is 02:44:45 And she was like, wait, so you're a white guy? and I said, excuse me, bigot, don't dead feather me. And it's like, what is wrong with these transphobes that they like go out of their way to misindigenate us? It's like, what's so hard to understand that trans indigenous Native Americans are indigenous Native Americans? Like, why do I even have to explain this in 2025 to people? so now I don't have anywhere to use a bathroom because I'm trans and it's like now I'm suffering in my car and I have no bathroom that I can use that matches my national origin because people want to be bigots and mean transphobes. just be nice people just be nice what's the sound effect
Starting point is 02:45:56 well it's a fort sound but he's got one of those little devices it's a handheld one he's got it off to the you can't see it but he's I know he's holding it to the right and it just doesn't sound good so he could have done a better job but I like the I like the trans indigenate or whatever that was yeah well what he has down and I this is a pattern I've noticed well this is lily this woman lily who's on or guy girl i don't know if the guy could be a complete put on he's the one is always bitching and moaning looks like a dude with long hair and lipstick
Starting point is 02:46:27 and he's always bitching and moaning on on ticot for being misgendered and he's always shaking and it's to say and he sounds just like him uh and it's it's a pattern yeah well the the pattern see if you want to get likes and you want to get likes and you want to get like Lots of comments. You have to talk about how sad you are. This is, I mean, sometimes it's about how mad you are. These are a lot of the clips you have. But social media, the success to social media is to view it as a self-pity promotion machine.
Starting point is 02:47:05 This is what gets you likes. If you go on and say, hey, I'm happy today. Everything's great. And you get crickets. People are. This is an interesting observation you're making here. This is possible. The self-pity promotion machine.
Starting point is 02:47:17 Everybody just wants to, oh, oh, it's okay. You go, girl, you'll be okay. Praying for you. Thoughts and prayers. Everything's great. The sun will come out tomorrow. And that's why people do it. And this, I think, is a big reason why people who are often on social media are perpetually sad.
Starting point is 02:47:36 Because they're just dealing with sadness all day long. Because they get more attention being sad. Exactly. So it's encouraging. this approach to life. Yes. And then you get a chat bot, and the chat bot will make you even sadder. I'm not going to argue against that so far.
Starting point is 02:47:56 Because you're right. Most of my clips are something else. In fact, I have a couple more, but I would like to play this one. This is the, this would be the in-superior. gal bitching about men being a bunch of stiffs. Men don't have rights. I think that men are just insuperior to women. I think no matter what a powerful man will simp to a woman, therefore a woman and every
Starting point is 02:48:31 circumstance in life is superior to a man. Any man, if you make more money than me, if you're stronger than me and you're taller than me, you'll still simp for me every single time. So I'm still superior. Yeah, you should have stopped with the, the, the, Grand's Feather guy. This is ridiculous. If you can't see her, it's no good.
Starting point is 02:48:51 Oh, you can't see her anyway. No, it's just good. The key is her being such a superior being and saying, using the word in superior. You're falling for clickbait, man. This is, this is just, this is not a real person. I'm glad that leads me to the last couple of going to play. Oh, brother. No, listen to this.
Starting point is 02:49:10 This is the new, you talk about marketing, pharmaceutical, and all the rest of it through these people and click bait this is i think an advertising campaign for chilis i did some research uh on the new they have a new campaign new campaign new campaign manager new advertising agency a new marketing director and this particular ticto complaint uh which see kind of looks legit i think a lot of people believe it i think is exactly what you're talking about oh this is done this is taken to a level that is beyond this is something that you have to admire this is the woman going to leave the country I think I have to get out of America I just saw a commercial that was my breaking point it's a Chili's commercial it's not even a political ad it's just a Chili's commercial and I'm losing my mind I think I have to leave
Starting point is 02:50:07 I don't think I can be a part of this world in this culture oh my God oh my God this is because of a Chili out. Oh, please. Fake. I think I had to lead the country. This is design. I don't know why these, some of these clips clip off on TikTok. This is designed to make you think that she's actually upset by
Starting point is 02:50:32 a Chili's ad, and you're going to be on the lookout for the Chili's ad could be offensive. I'm telling you, this is a marketing strategy. It's dynamite. I'm going to show my food, Donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab
Starting point is 02:50:49 Yeah, on no agenda In the morning Well, I personally am very happy That we don't have to deal with any of that nonsense And have meetings about that Oh my goodness, can you imagine? No, instead we just ask you to support us With your hard-earned cash
Starting point is 02:51:08 To keep us going on this show And at least complete 18 years We can go another four it only, only if you want it. And John will thank the rest of our supporters in value for value land, $50 and above right now. Starting with Anonymous in Staten Island, 161. And it's a happy birthday, Adam. 161.
Starting point is 02:51:29 Thank you very much. Randy O'Rourke in Bradford, Pennsylvania, 105, and that's a happy birthday. Oh, so nice. Kevin McLaughlin, 8-08. That's a happy birthday, Adam. Thank you. No. That's his boob donation.
Starting point is 02:51:46 He comes in later with a birthday donation. Oh, he does. Oh, what a nice guy. He's awesome. Commodore. Dubs. K.M.7 BPI. BPI.
Starting point is 02:52:00 Is that right? KM.7 BPI 73s. Springfield, Oregon. 76. Seventy-six-1. This is a ham grip donation. Oh, ham Gigi. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:52:13 Oh, wait, hold on. Okay. I'm Gigi. Oh, good Lord. There we go. Today is his mom's birthday. Okay, we got on the birthday list. She's on the birthday list.
Starting point is 02:52:28 Nice. Commodore Duke, K.M. 78. She's on the list. She's on the list. Okay, it's B.P.H, not I. BPA. Because it's my spreadsheet that cut off the H make it look like an eye. Franklin.
Starting point is 02:52:42 And Shepton in junior in Pinsburg, Pennsylvania, 7313. That's a happy birthday. Janet All Good in Watkins, Watkinsville, Georgia, 70 with a note, which I don't have. I don't have the note either from Janet. I don't know what happens. But it's just a, but thanks, Janet. And then we have Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 6502, which is the chip donation. Now, the rest of these are birthday donations.
Starting point is 02:53:14 And I'm going to just read them all. There's the 6430s. These are the ones with the extra money added. Thank you. And then I'm going to go right through the 60 ones. All these are birthday donations for Adam, starting with Mark, Mark Cram in Durham, North Carolina, who does need a deduishing. You've been deduished.
Starting point is 02:53:35 Sean Levinton in Oxford, Ohio. Dirty Jersey whore, your buddy. Uh, you all be good. Uh, and he is in, Texas. Dirty Jersey horse, not in Jersey at all, but he's in Gladewater, Texas. He's a Texan. Joshua Schmidt in Norwood Young, New, Norwood Young, Minnesota.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Uh, these are all happy birthdays. Uh, Mickey Keck in Las Wages, Nevada, and he's got a birthday for Keck Dame also on your, same as you. Mm-hmm. Um, Tom Jandran in Clancy, Montana. Angela Wang in Whittier Kevin McLaughin there he is I told you he came in with a second donation
Starting point is 02:54:17 6430 for Adam's birthday John Ferretti Erie Pennsylvania Sir Rob in Picney Michigan and he also has a birthday for himself he got a lot of birthdays today
Starting point is 02:54:32 I can guarantee it September 3rd Michael Madeloni in Appleton Wisconsin Russ, Russ Coory in St. Cloud, Florida. Sir Tiggermax in Crudeline. Sander von Tohorlahar.
Starting point is 02:54:54 Sondler von der Lehar. Fonathillen. Arnhem. Is it Arnhem? Arnhem. Bridge too far, Arnhem. Commodore Crummy. Oh, Commodore Crummy.
Starting point is 02:55:06 He's in El Cajon. David Keyes in Riverside, California, Christina Henry, and Deputy Indiana. Dame Christina Pearl and Sir Robert Charles, you know, Dame Christina, of course, are Southwest flight attendant. Ryan Teperton in Burnsville, Minnesota, Sir Brent in Castle Rock, Colorado. Dame Rita and Sparks. She came in. She'd be at the top of the list usually, but she's coming in with the 61 instead.
Starting point is 02:55:36 We lost money on the deal. So you cost us money. We lost money on the deal. We lost money on that one. Ryle Davis in Gloversville, New York. And that concludes our list of happy well-wishers. Now we go to Jamie Buell in Vista, Colorado with 606, along with Les Tarkowski and Kingman, 600, Sarah McMillan in Sydney, Montana, 5798.
Starting point is 02:56:04 Lisa Mikulski and Sarah. Arizona, Florida, 52, 52. She makes a note here, but the Bill Gates' butter episode was one of the funniest I've heard in a while. Bill Gates' butter. Yep. Bobby Bush. Bobby Bo. Vaseline.
Starting point is 02:56:23 Vaseline is what you said. That was great. That was funny. Bobby Bow in Bluegrass, Iowa. Yeah, it's 50. Oh, now we're at the $50 donor. So let's just go through them one after the other. Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
Starting point is 02:56:36 Nathan Noel in Netherland, Texas. Uh, Netherland? Netherland, yeah. Okay. Clarence Clark and Jacksonville Beach. Terence Clark.
Starting point is 02:56:53 What did I say? Clarence. Oh, hey, Clarence. Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Nebraska. Uh, Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado. Scott McCartee in Lodi, Jordan Tierney in Oral, South Dakota, and parts unknown is Sir Mick's. It's a Bitcoin donation.
Starting point is 02:57:17 It's a Bitcoin donation. It's a whole dollar, $50. He says, here's some sats for when your stable coins get turned off. One of these days, I plan on doing a tour of America and visiting every single one of these places. I mean, who wouldn't want to go to Bluegrass, Iowa? Who wouldn't want to go to Sydney, Montana? Who wouldn't want to go to Kirtilene or Picney, Michigan? Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:57:43 We should do that. We should do a tour. You and me, baby. I've already been to Kordaline. A motorcycle with a side car. Yeah, that looks about right. We'd be a hoot. Thank you to these producers.
Starting point is 02:57:55 We really appreciate that. There's no 4999s today, but no one under 50 is ever mentioned for reasons of anonymity. of course a lot of people on the sustaining donations. A lot of 33.33s is highly appreciated. You can go to no agenda donations.com and support us with any amount, any time you want, anytime you feel you got value from the show, just send it back. Noaginthonatonation.com. Thank you very much. And also thanks, once again, to our executive and associate executive producers, knowagin the donations.com.
Starting point is 02:58:28 And we kick it off from Sir Scott the Jew, who says, birthday to Marty Moskowitz. He turned 73 on the 29th. Rita Steckich, Steckage, her son, Tom. He turned 40 today. Happy birthday, Tom. Sir Brent turns 52 on my birthday, September 3rd. Commodore Dubs wishes his mom, Leslie Walker. A happy one. Mickey Keck. Happy birthday to Joyce Keck, Dame of the O.T.R. Sir Rob of Picney is celebrating his birthday. And Dame Janet and Sir Island Dogs. Happy birthday to Baroness Sisi from Greensboro, Georgia. She is turning 70 years old, and we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Yes, your birthday, yeah. Title changes. Turn and facelessly. That's changes. Yes, we have an entire peerage ladder here.
Starting point is 02:59:20 Once you're a knight or a dame, you can keep climbing the ladder every additional $1,000 in aggregate, of course, that you send automatically gets you up to the next level. And sarcastic, the nomad becomes a big. baronet today. And we say happy birthday. We say congratulations to him on his title change in the no agenda peerage ladder. And we have a couple of them today. Please welcome them in.
Starting point is 02:59:43 All hail to the Secretary Generals because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary Generals on the No Agenda show. That's right. We have a number of
Starting point is 03:00:00 Secretary General's to congratulate. Anybody can become a Secretary General, but it is a real official title, just like Mark Ruta, the Secretary General of NATO. You can become whatever you want. And we congratulate Sir Scovey, Sir Sharkey, who will be the Secretary
Starting point is 03:00:17 General of the Salish Sea. Scott Rediker, who will be the Secretary General of Cascade County, Surcastic the Nomad, Secretary General named to be determined, and Carrie Conkel, all of you are now officially Secretary General Generals of the No Agenda Show.
Starting point is 03:00:35 Welcome them all in once again. All hail to the Secretary Generals, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary Generals on the No Agenda Show. And we have two knights to welcome up onto the podium today, so there is my sword. If you've got a blade, John. There you go. Ooh, that's a night. Nice.
Starting point is 03:01:02 Commodore Sharkey, come on over. And Matt, both of you have supported the show in the mind of $1,000 or more. That means I get to pronounce the Cate the officially as Sir Sharkey, Secretary General of the Sailor, C, and Sir Matt. Gentlemen, for you, we have hookers and blow, rent poison, chardonnay, bong hits, and a double IPA by special requests. Also, with that, we've got beer and blunts. We've got Rubenest women in rosé. We have gaseas and sake, vodka, and vanilla. along with the IPA, we also have some bong hits with some bourbon,
Starting point is 03:01:33 sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk, and pablum, cowgirls and coffin varnish, organic macaroni and plasticizers. And, of course, we always have the mutton and the mead. Now, for the Secretary Generals, I believe you can go to no agenda rings.com. Soon, there will be the order form to have your very official certificate. No, it's a different word, your proclamation of your secretary. Generalship, we'll be able to order there with the name that you want, the address you want it sent to. And of course, for our brand new knights, you can go there, take a look at your
Starting point is 03:02:07 No Agenda Ring, which will be coming to you. It is a signet ring, so that means you always receive some sticks of wax to seal your important correspondence. And we always have a certificate of authenticity there for you as well. Welcome both of you to the roundtable of No Agenda Knights and Dames. Yeah, baby. The No Agenda Meetups. Everyone knows all about them. We are the only podcast that has this level of meetups, this level of organization, noagenda meetups.com, where you can schedule them, you can find them. This is where you find protection, because that's what connection always gives you. These people that you meet at the meetups will be your responders in an emergency, your first responders. And as always, Leo Bravo is out in California. He has Flight of the No Agendas, number 66, a lot of, of people showed up. Hey, everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 66. I'm passing a phone around in the morning. Down here at the HMS bounty at flight of no agenda number 66. Can't wait for 666. Hey, John. Body warm Bobby here on our first meetup, my two human resources, Bella and
Starting point is 03:03:18 Uriah. Wasn't sure if I was going to be able to make it out here because Kamala told me not to come. I looked her square in the eye and said, I'm going to come. I'm passing the mic down to my daughter first isabella donate to no agenda and my son eurya god save the queen man if i could do a quick shout out to my co-worker he's a long-time douchebag listening to your show for 13 years and has never donated a red cent his name is sean sablooski for a doucheback call-out hey john and adam sir leekin philpop here in the communist stronghold of los angeles and i've not stepped on any poop today sir Robertson is Hoostics here having a great time with everyone I drove down four and a half to actually close to five hours for this meetup and I'm happy to be here thank you everyone in the morning love the dedication of the flight of the no agendas out there in southern California here's the local 360 meetup in the morning from the vault in Blaine Washington this is dame j protector of pandas hi my name is annalise and I served the no agenda podcast today and they were you know absolutely horrible. I'm just kidding. They were amazing. They were a blast. And I hope they enjoy being here as much
Starting point is 03:04:31 as I'm here. So there you go. Hi, this is Alan, aka Circumcision, where I can see socialism from my day. Not a spook, but they frequently come here and I can't say anything else. Sir Ryan the refiner here, deconstructing news and constructing friendship in the morning. This is Travis in the morning. Not a night, but not a douchebag. We'll keep working on it. This is Jason. And And I'm glad the beer. It's been a year since we've had one of these. So we've got to get these more frequent. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 03:05:02 In the morning. And our last meetup report. Nice to have the server in there as well. Remember to get your servers in these meetup reports. This is the unofficial Maastricht meetup, very small. Hi, John and Alam. This is the unofficial Maastricht Meetup report. I joined one other producer.
Starting point is 03:05:19 Here is Roland. In the morning, this is Roland. Connection is protection. Also listen to... R-A-N-D-O-M-B-Thoughts.com online in the morning. And still coming. We got some meetups taking place. Actually, we have one taking place right now.
Starting point is 03:05:35 The annual South Jersey, pig roast. It's a Dame Wend's house in Medford Lakes, New Jersey. I can't wait to hear the meetup reports from that. On my birthday, September 3rd, Hunts-Fillari meet up 6 o'clock at the Old Bear Brewing in Madison, Alabama. On Thursday, our next show day, the Northern Wake, September soire. 6 o'clock at Hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina. And on Thursday the 4th as well, the Houston Lazy Dog, monthly meetup, 630 at Lazy Dog Restaurant and Bar in Houston, Texas.
Starting point is 03:06:02 Many more meetups to come, including the 7th in Hofdorp, the Netherlands, South Slokin, British Columbia, Canada, on the 8th, on the 13th, Keyport, New Jersey, Oakland, California, the 19th, in the 19th, Telfth, in the Netherlands, on the 20th, Bedford, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 30th, all the way to October on the 10th, Johnson City, Texas, not far from Fredericksburg, where we'll have a meetup on the 11th. I will be there along with Tina the Keeper, I hope. That's it. Noagentammeetups.com. Go there to find out all about the meetups where they will be taking place in your town. If they're not anywhere near you, start one yourself. It's easy.
Starting point is 03:06:37 Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be. Triggered or hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party Well, I can't believe this happened I have no ISO And I don't think you have one either
Starting point is 03:07:04 No, but I have a song You have a song Yeah, you won't find it just by looking It's the Kilmar is our neighbor Ah Kylmar is our neighbor. Killar is our neighbor.
Starting point is 03:07:24 neighbor, you can't have him Trump. No. Kilmar is our neighbor. You can't have him strong. That's horrible. You haven't heard that yet? No, I don't even know what it means. Kilmar-Albrego-Garcia is our neighbor. Yeah, this is not an end-of-show ISO.
Starting point is 03:07:49 Oh, okay, well, go dig into the archives. You only have a million of these things. Let's try this one. Thank you. Thank you. Got that one. I got, uh... I have feelings.
Starting point is 03:08:02 There it is. Okay. I have feelings it is. And now everybody, it's time once again for John's illustrious tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Oh, this is the screwball one, but I have to say it's dynamite, the tip of the day.
Starting point is 03:08:30 Black garlic. Black garlic. That sounds nasty. So black garlic, and you can buy it by the bulb. And you can also, there's a different version. There's also a may make a paste out of it. So black garlic, I knew about it, but I was forced to try it. and Mimi's a big fan of this stuff
Starting point is 03:08:51 because she claims and she's got one of those bracelets on it measures everything she does, blood pressure, oxygen. She says, you take this, you eat the black garlic and your blood pressure drops like a rock. But besides the medical aspect, black garlic, which turns out to be
Starting point is 03:09:08 because I was irked by it when I tried it. I said, this is unbelievable. You get a clove, you pull a garlic clove out and you eat it. It tastes like chocolate. black. It has the texture of roasted garlic, but it, but it doesn't taste anything like garlic. And it was, and I said, this is, I was so irked by trying it. I said, I'm, like this is so supposed dilettante gourmet. I should have known about this years ago. It turns out it's
Starting point is 03:09:39 only invented in 2004 in Korea, but further research indicates it comes from a 4,000 year old idea, a recipe, that some guy rediscovered in 2004 about how to ferment garlic. And it's a fermented garlic in the bulb within the bulb. And you need special temperatures and pressures and everything in between to get it to work. And it's not necessarily cheap. You get like a couple of bulbs cost about six bucks, seven bucks maybe. And you take and you just tear, you can eat it or you can mix it with stuff. it would be good spread on bread, with avocado toast, you know.
Starting point is 03:10:20 It's just, it's an astonishing. It tastes a little like chocolate. It's got a gorgeous texture. It is a fabulous thing that I would have never had unless I was forced to try it. Gorgeous texture. It's just fabulous. It's just fabulous. You just became super gay.
Starting point is 03:10:37 I don't know what's up with that. Well, it just was amazing. So who and how was this? a 4,000-year-old recipe codified, and what was it written on stone? Was it in hieroglyphics? It was somebody dug it as a Korean researcher found this recipe, I suppose, and they passed it along. It's this guy.
Starting point is 03:11:01 Some guy perfected how to make it in Korea because it's a process. You can do it at home, but it's like, don't. Wow. It's just too much work. It takes, I mean, you can do fermentations at home. We do cabbage and different pickles and things, but in fact, this takes very specialized temperatures and pressures. And there it is another awesome food tip of the day. As part of the tip of the day, find them all at tip of the day.net.
Starting point is 03:11:30 It's fabulous. Fabulous. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnettie. It's just fabulous, I tell you. It's fabulous. So fabulous. My, oh, my, oh, my. Yeah, that's it, everybody, for our broadcast day on this holiday weekend in America, Labor Day weekend.
Starting point is 03:11:56 And guess what? As a public service, we're working for you. Because we love you. Join my league. Up next on noagendashstream.com, it was promoted in the meetup report, random thoughts. episode 334, so you can enjoy that. And we do have some classic end-of-show mixes. Since we didn't have any new ones,
Starting point is 03:12:22 we've got Gary with the classic Korean news scrimer. We've got Phantomville with the TikToks. And Spencer Pearson, who's very optimistic about everything. And we will return on Thursday with another, at least three hours of media deconstruction for you. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where it is thundering and very, very wet. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Yeah, and from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's kind of nice out.
Starting point is 03:12:49 I'm John C. DeVorek. See you all on Thursday. Please remember us at no agenda, the donations.com. Until then, adios, moufos, a hooey, hooey, hoon, and such. So, Sanghangang! Biong, biong, bong, bong, bong. Here, y'er. All right.
Starting point is 03:13:24 Angong, angang, hang. Andgang. Iyer, year. Bion, bong, bong. I'm That's right That's right. TikTok.
Starting point is 03:13:39 TikTok. TikTok. TikTok. TikTok. That's right. that's right TikTok I am a real
Starting point is 03:14:37 genuine optimist and I see nothing but this none of this is good none of this is good none of this is good I am an optimist none of this is good
Starting point is 03:14:48 I'm not hanging out with you we do this show let me come on it's never going to be anything interesting none of this is good you're a starry-eyed optimist you actually think
Starting point is 03:14:57 that things are going to change none of this is good I'm not hanging out with you We do this show Come on It's never going to be anything interesting None of this is good You're a starry-eyed optimist
Starting point is 03:15:09 You actually think that things are going to change None of this is good I am a real genuine optimist We do this show You actually think that things are going to change I'm expecting way too much I know I'm not hanging out with you
Starting point is 03:15:24 Because you are an optimist Shut up Shut up I am a real genuine optimist This bull We do this show You actually think that things are going to change. I'm expecting way too much.
Starting point is 03:15:34 I know. I'm not hanging out with you because you are an optimist. Shut up. Shut up. Hey, you know what? I'm going to end the show. The best podcast in the universe. I have.
Starting point is 03:15:50 Adios, mofo. Devorac.com.org slash N.A. I have feelings.

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