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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bling, plong, plong, plong. Yeah, that's good. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, September 11th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1798. This is no agenda. With nothing cutesy to say. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas whole country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're noticing they caught the guy, they let the guy go, they caught him. They've got him. They don't have them. They don't know what they're doing. I'm John Cedar-Dorak. It's Crackbott and Buzzkill. In the morning.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Yeah. Tough week. Not a good week. So Todd Cochran... Well, Lisa didn't happen on a show day. No, gives us a little bit of time to have nothing. Todd Cochran passed away on, I think, Monday. Which was...
Starting point is 00:00:58 Do you know who he is? Well, I know his name, but I don't know, don't know him. Oh, he was one of the, one of the very early podcasters and he found. Oh, yes, you mentioned, yes. Yeah, I did. I did. Well, I never met him, but I knew. Right. Well, he was in no agenda night, actually. Yes. And he found the blueberry and he just died suddenly.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Literally, that's what the, uh, what the obituary said, died suddenly of a heart attack, 61. It's like, oh, okay. A little young. Yes. And today, of course, September 11th, where we all have to remember that after those devastating plane crashes everywhere, we found a hijackers passport, completely unscathed. Let's not forget that. Let's not forget that. But yesterday, man, Charlie Kirk, I got a note from one of our producers, a rock veteran, because I kind of. kind of fits with September 11th, because why was he there? And he said, double sad day today, Charlie Kirk yesterday, a true free speech assassination.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I saw a young Marine die in a similar way in Iraq in 2005. And the video of Charlie rock me like it was the first time seeing it, knowing Charlie more with his wife and two kids and watching him for years and being proud of the things he has done for our young people, I canceled all my meetings for today because it's hard to stay focused because I'm time traveling back to Iraq and it's just looping in my head. And he also said that the videification of violence is just horrific, which is true. You know, you and I've discussed, you're not really on X like that with an algorithm. You're just on the, on the website, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:45 But it's always. Because my phone's in a drawer. Yes, smartly. It's always everything you see is violence. If you just scroll and if you let the videos go, it's all just people beating each other up. That's if you keep picking it. Mm-mm. If you watch those videos, if you stop watching those videos, you start getting something else.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Yeah. No, that's not true because I've tried everything. Tried everything. So you send a couple of bonus clips, which I want to start, because I presume you have the latest update, which I don't have. But I'll just tell you, something changed in me yesterday. This was something changed in me. Something changed. You know, we all went to church.
Starting point is 00:03:27 We prayed for Charlie, his friends, his family. prayed for our country. I can't claim this show from this day forward will ever could really be called no agenda because from now on I got an agenda, an American agenda. And that's based on what Charlie Kirk stood for, truth according to the word of God. I am sick of it all. Sick of it. Time to put down our phones and pick up our Bibles. Give me your bonus clips. What you got? Well, I have the teaser clip from ABC, which is what brought me to the second clip. And the, because the second clip kind of brings it a little, and I was not expecting this.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I thought it was just, I thought we will discuss this, but I thought this was a professional hit. I completely, I still think it was. Well, to a point, but there's some conspiracy aspect to it. And being a professional hit, I thought, led me to believe that they're never going to catch the guy because he already had, because from what you can tell, from what we've been told,
Starting point is 00:04:30 told is there were two decoys, which is one more than usual, that were both picked up and let go. And there was, and the guy was, you know, he was, it was a one shot, which was important to note. Bolt action rifle. Supposedly. Well, yes. News flash, nobody knows anything. And the FBI is certainly the last to know, apparently.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And so we have this broke this morning from ABC. Hi, I'm Di Maceda. Let's get right to breaking news. The FBI is asking for help identifying this man who they are calling a person of interest in the shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Sources tell ABC News, ammunition found with the rifle was engraved with messages about transgender issues and anti-fascist ideology. Yeah, really convenient in this case.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Well, I don't know how convenient it was, but the point is that they brought in later. They had a, this is a long presentation and they had gotten as far as they could with the, with the story. As far as I'm concerned, the teaser there was probably the thing wrapped up in a, in a nutshell. In a package. So then we have this from this I picked up. I retweeted this and I took it down. I said, I don't know. Maybe not because it says inflammatory.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But I thought this clip was quite interesting. Yeah, you got to tell me which clip that is because it doesn't. Oh, it's trans. Oh, hold on a second. It was the second bonus clip. I know I saved it. Hold on a second. I don't understand why it's not here.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I'm sorry I'm telling you I saved this clip and for some reason you probably saved it to a wrong it probably went to a wrong folder then uh forboating
Starting point is 00:06:41 here it is okay hold on a second sorry about that I'll cut this out and no one will ever know the difference oh if if it's a trans shooter baby the trans community so this person here goes to the of course are they them and look at what he said yesterday he says here charlie kirk is coming to
Starting point is 00:07:03 my college tomorrow i really hope someone evaporates him literally and then he writes let's just say something big will happen tomorrow hmm so a trans student is saying this yesterday and i also find it very very odd that the person asking the question was asking charlie about trans shooters before he got shot. So FBI, Cash Mattel, where the fuck this dude is? Yeah, I think you should look into this. Yeah, no, that's,
Starting point is 00:07:36 I think we probably all sold that post and the person who posted that after I was like, no, no, no, no, I didn't do it. There were a lot of people saying, no, no, no. The other thing is the coincidence, because the question was to Charlie, how many trans shooters were involved in, you know, mass shootings in the last 10 years?
Starting point is 00:07:53 and Charlie's answer was a little glib, which was abnormal for him. But it was a good, it was good. It was funny. I have it here. I have it here. I have it here. Okay. Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? Too many. I think it replays here. Okay. Now, five is a lot, right? I'm going to give you some credit.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last? last 10 years. Counting or not counting gang violence? Great. So the time differential between him saying too many and getting shot was 11 seconds. And
Starting point is 00:08:41 the coincidence is a little too much for me. Me too. Because you had the guy posting this note in total denial. The next thing you know you have a trans guy asking a specific, or or trans, I don't know if he was, he wasn't trans problem. No, I don't think, I don't think he was.
Starting point is 00:08:59 No, he was just some guy or dude or they, them, who knows. But some guy coincidentally asking a question about trans shooters and with 11 seconds he gets shot and then we now we have the report from ABC that has these etchings on bullets or something, which may or may not be true. but if this is lined up to just sabotage and there's also an antifa angle according to ABC there was Antifa stuff it's a little bit too much to expect this to be an op anti-trans op there's something going on yeah we have an enemy in America and if anything that enemy is trying to cause civil war
Starting point is 00:09:47 because that's where we're headed. Oh, I don't buy that. Okay, you don't buy it? I know we're not headed to a civil war. World wars have been started over one guy getting shot. Yeah. Okay, so you say whatever you want. I'm telling you how I feel.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And if anyone's to blame, if anyone's to blame, it's the crap that we have on television. It's the crap that are politicians. It's the crap that is repeated on social media. And it's crap like this. But following up what was just said, he's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts, lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. Exactly. Let's hear an example.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be. People need to start taking to the streets. This is a dictator. You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. Enemies up to state. Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless. How do you resist the temptation to run up and bring her neck?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized up to the right. I thought he should have punished him in the face. Even if he lost, he insulted your wife. He was. He came down the esplater and called Mexicans, rapists, and murders. He said, well, what do you think I should have done? I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race. He would have been a hero.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I'd like to punch him in the face. I said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. Punch some people in the face. When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump, and that's a fact. Look, as his character is stabbed to death. Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him? I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
Starting point is 00:11:56 A Missouri state senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinate. I will go and take Trump out tonight. And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, And you're in the department store and the gasoline station, you get out and look around and look at us back on them. And you're not well done. And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution are right at 1,600 Pennsylvania Avenue. They're not going to stop before election day in November and they're not going to stop after election day.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not going to let up and they should not. When you have weak people who clearly are mentally ill, this, this kind of rhetoric can stir people up to nut job stuff. Well, that's definitely true. But if you're going to blame anybody, if we're going to go with the transgender angle, I would blame the medical community. I'm with you. I'm completely with you. But it's not just the medical community. It's the lawmakers who are pushing for this,
Starting point is 00:13:15 the news that continuously pushes for this, political opinions that continue push for this. And, you know, I'm also done with the abortion baby killing. I'm done with all of it. I'm done with all of this crap. And I'm also done with Israel. Who may or may not. I mean, if this was a, if this was an assassin's hit,
Starting point is 00:13:36 listen to what Charlie Kirk was saying about Israel. I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. You're not allowed to. It's even worse than that. Like, I host a person that I moderate the debate of, mind you. Right. Right. And I give equal time to Josh Hammer, equal time to a pro-Israel advocate. And my moral character is being put into question. And so I just, I think it's a hyper paranoid, like we're just going to try to, We're going to just stamp out everything type of practice. It's like there's a rule. You can't go there when it comes to Israel.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Well, you and I believe that we're Americans and Americans first. Period. End of story. We are citizens of this nation. Okay? And Israel, we have funded. We have supported. Not like we're going to, but we're like, honestly,
Starting point is 00:14:28 the way you are treating me is so repulsive. I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-Semite. But my moral character is. now being put into question, Megan. Not my decisions, not like, hey, are you doing this? Is it smart or is it dumb? But no, I am a bad person if I do this. For all we know, this could have been a warning to Trump. Oh, really? You have a problem with us bombing Qatar, bombing people in Qatar? You got a problem with that? I wouldn't put it past BB Net and Yahoo. He's off the rails that guy. He's gone too far now. Well, that's something of a stretch, although you're curiously you now agree with Natalie and Clayton.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm not agreeing. I'm saying for all we know. We don't know anything. That's their thesis. What I do know is for people saying, what was this airplane? The assassin left on a private plane. He left the airport just right after Kirk was shot. The airplane November 888 Kilo Golf was actually the plane, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Kirk traveled on most. I know this because when I saw him speak in Dallas, we landed our little four-seater at Addison Airport. And I saw, and that was the, no, I don't know if it was Addison. That was the only plane I saw and I spoke to the people there and they told me that that was Kirk's plane. And it's like a net jet. So it can leave. It can stay overnight whenever and wherever they need it. So that's, that's not true. But the ignorance, the ignorance of people. You know, we have the Patriot Academy here. And, you know, which is they teach young people how to introduce bills and how to argue
Starting point is 00:16:18 them on the floor and how to make them politically savvy to get them into government. And so they were going to create Constitution City, which would be like a small, you know, 200-person city. It's at 1776, you know, Patriot Way, whatever. It's all cutesy. If you see what people post about them online, it's unbelievable. Burn it, bomb them. Maybe this will be another Waco.
Starting point is 00:16:47 They'll kill each other and do the rest of us a favor. Newk it. Let them die by their bigotry. People are ignorant. And all they do is they sit on their phones all day and listen to nonsense and nonsense politicians and nonsense talking heads. and they believe this stuff and then you get people, I only have
Starting point is 00:17:06 one of them because it's just too annoying what's the, this is just a perfect example. White woman, green hair. Some be very fucking clear about this so that you know exactly where I stand and I will say this with my whole entire chest. There are some people on this app that are sitting there saying, oh, you
Starting point is 00:17:22 shouldn't wish death upon any person no matter what side they're on. Fuck that. Fuck that. Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi. He was a fucking Nazi. And you know what kind of Nazis? The best Nazi? A dead one. Thank God that shit stain of a person is no longer in this world. And may his hell be being confronted by every single marginalized person that he hurt. That is what is fucking wrong with you. That does not
Starting point is 00:17:52 make me a bad person for thinking that bad people should not be in this world. So fuck that Nazi and have a great day. And, you know, you've seen it. There was a lot of this everywhere. Oh, there's some gems. You know, and my favorite proverb, fools find no pleasure and understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. That is exactly what that woman is.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So we hopefully we'll find out. Hopefully, we'll figure this out. Man, if it was Netanyahu, it wasn't Netanyahu. Well, you don't know that. You don't know anything. remember we just found the passport for one of the hijackers but to go out of the out of this just out of the blue with net and yahoo is just ridiculous i don't care what you
Starting point is 00:18:41 think about my ridiculous assertions i'm not leaving anything off the table anything this well how about his how about this the whole thing was a was a uh staged and it was an extraction no i don't i i i don't i where you just left something off the table. Okay. I just wanted to clear that up. Could you please show me the evidence or do you have Well, show me the evidence of Netanyahu. I have no evidence other than a very targeted hit. I'm just pointing out that you're, you're already leaving stuff off the table and you are, you're just being bigoted in some funny way. I'm not being bigoted. You know, I actually, yesterday thought I would stop doing the show. I'm so sick and tired of you just saying these things.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I have an opinion. Do you tell me I'm bigoted? Where's your green hair, dude? I'm just saying. But you know, you'll get over it. Let's listen to some analysis. Maybe you'll get over it. Maybe. And maybe not. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So let's listen to some analysis about, and I thought this was kind of interesting. This was about the police work going into this from some quasi-spook character. This is Kirk Analysis Policework, NTD. joining us now to unpack the tragic death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letz. He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement expert. He's also the CEO of Invest USA. Michael, thank you so much for joining us to discuss this tragedy. First, what will federal law enforcement have to do to figure out exactly what happened? A large crowd of students were there, as Charlie spoke, will need to be assessed. The first thing we'll have to do is go in and do the trajectory,
Starting point is 00:20:26 find that exactly where the route came from. You know, this kind of, tragic that this much time has passed without that being pinpointed. But they're in the process of doing that now. Obviously, we'll have to match up the trajectory with the exact location, the exact casing on the shell, what attack rifle was used. And then we're going to have to go into the intel community, find out, chatter, find out the list of suspects. And that may be very broad because obviously Charlie's message was controversial. It was right on point, but it was controversial. and so there's a lot of people that would seek to do him harm.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So we're going to have to make sure that that gets done, gets done effectively. The problem that it does bring is that it could take some time. But one of the things I want to reassure the American people is that America stands strong and firm, has always too strong and firm on the matters of patriotism and truth, and this one I deter us in any form or fashion. And who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Well, they introduced them at the beginning. You can play that again if you want to know. But the thing, what I thought interesting about this clip was that the Intel community has a list of suspects just sitting around? Did they keep track of everybody? Let me listen to who that guy is again. Let me hear the intro. And joining us now to unpack the tragic death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letts. He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement expert.
Starting point is 00:21:49 He's also the CEO of Invest USA. Invest USA. Well, I'll have to look that up. but he he clearly says Charlie Kirk had a controversial message what was controversial to nut jobs who was it controversial to it was obviously controversial
Starting point is 00:22:08 everybody at MSNBC Invest USA sells bulletproof vests okay well there's an expert well I mean you can say what you want this play clip too. And of course right now is still early stages, but from your perspective,
Starting point is 00:22:29 what kind of weapon could have been used here today? It definitely was a long-range rifle. I believe it was a sniper rifle, which quite frankly, if that is the case proves to be accurate, then this was not some just off-the-cuff, shall we say, disgruntled leftist personnel. This would have been a well-coordinated and a well-planned attack. It would have been given a lot of consideration, a lot of thought, which then narrows the prospects or the suspects that we're looking at, but it also creates this great concern. Where do they stop? They're going after conservatives.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Obviously, they attempted to assassinate the president. They've made other attempts on other personnel. So where is there stop? Where is there any point? Or are they just determined to make sure they continue this violence against the American people until they get whatever it is they're looking for, which obviously is a return of power. Oh, so he's saying the Democrats, basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 That's what he's saying basically. Democrats. And all those clips that you played earlier of all the people shaking their fists and asking for violence, if you noticed, they were all Democrats. Oh, completely. You had Nancy Pelosi. You had what's her named, Waters. You had each and every one of them. You had Rick, what's his name, the guy called for the assassination.
Starting point is 00:23:51 The Lincoln Project. Rick Wilson, you had everybody and their sister in that clip series that you play, you can play it again, don't, was all Democrats. They're all Democrats. Leftists, including news people. I don't even think they were even that left, much leftists. They were all Democrats. I mean, you can call a Democrat a leftist, but I think they're just Democrats.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Okay. I call them Marxists, socialists. I just don't see Nancy Pelosi being a Marxist. She's a pure capitalist. Okay. But she's a Democrat, and she was one of the people in there in that clip series. Let's go to three. And Michael, have seen cancel culture and violence rise at universities carried out against conservative speakers.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Do you expect what happened today to bring about serious? change in this regard? Hold on a second. Did I get the right one? Is that clip three? Yeah, I think so. Well, the question will be, what kind of change can it bring about? And, you know, you do one or two things.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Can it silence conservatives? Absolutely not. I think you're going to see more voices that are going to rise up and take the place of what Charlie was doing such an effective job of doing. The second question is, can we provide better security? Well, you can provide better security if you're keeping those conservative speakers in a enclosed area, i.e. an auditorium where you can check people coming in, check people coming out, making sure there are no terrorists or sniper shots that could be done from advantaged buildings.
Starting point is 00:25:27 But that's not the case. That was never Charlie's style. And that's really not the style of conservative America. They want to be able to express their opinions where people can be heard. And that's on the streets, on the sidewalks. And as long as that takes place, it's very hard to continue to provide additional security measures. So I think you're going to see an increase in this. I think you're going to see an increase in conservative voices being heard. And until we, from the intelligence community, in a law enforcement standpoint, the source of all this and deal with its leadership and bring it to justice, it's going to get worse, not better. Baffling to me is how Charlie Kirk was one of the most guarded people in America. I mean, he had all kinds of security measures.
Starting point is 00:26:13 How could they have missed this? It's like, wow, this seems like a no-brainer this one. Well, they did talk about most of these talk show guys, especially on Fox, they discussed this in great detail. And the final result was that you can, you know, he had a contingent of pros and there were some campus police involved. but they didn't it was they they all concluded it wasn't at the level of the secret service where they would do the checks of the buildings and and have you know counter snipers because charlie didn't have that and it was just all personal protection for that you know being you know the entourage type protection for uh for for close in assaults no one ever you know considered a shot from well that's that's what i mean it's like if you're in the business of securing somebody who's getting constant death threats and like, oh, we didn't think of that.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well, I'm not going to argue about that, but at the same time, the irony to this is that maybe they do think about that, but in Orem, Utah, Lily White, super conservative, no-crime area of the country, probably Mac to the Max, which is the perfect location. Perfect location. Perfect location. That's my point. You're making it for me. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Perfect location. It is the perfect location, but it's also the perfect place for you to drop your guard. Yes. That's what I mean. Unprofessional. Well, I don't know if it's, yeah, well, it's natural. Maybe it's unprofessional if you're completely paranoid. But he should have done it inside in that regard, if that was the case.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But yeah, yeah. And the guy's on the loose. Anyway, this is the last clip. And when we talk about accountability, here. Who do you think authorities are going to look at to figure out what were the events that led up to something like this? Well, I think you've got a number of factors look at. First of all, a good old adage from a law enforcement standpoint, where's the money? Go to the money, follow the money, follow the paper. Yes. And so who's financing these? Who's financing the
Starting point is 00:28:30 ability for this to transpire? You know, it's not cheap for long-range drivers. It's not cheap to plan the logistics and these kind of things. So find out where the funding sources are coming from. Second of all, find out what the players are. You're not going to get somebody just fresh off the street to do this. This took a professional, somebody who knew what he was doing, and who knew how to handle the accuracy of that fire weapon. So those are the kind of issues that we're going to have to look for. Find out who is in the process of organizing and already has been organized for that matter.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And by being already organized, they're using their resources to try to counter-conservative message, to try to bring forth a revolution, shall we say, of liberal, liberalism and liberal ideas. Those are the ones you want to target and investigate. You'll find your answers when you go there. Oh, well, he makes a very good point. A revolution of sorts. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Seems right. Seems right to follow the money and bust it up. That's the simplest solution. Yeah. And I think we know where half the money is coming from. Where? Soros. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Open Soros. I'm with Glenn Beck on this one. The Open Society Foundation, because Soros is practically dead himself, that guy's Well, yeah, but this foundation is he peopled it with, you know, he knew how to staff an office. Let's just play this Kirk Report NPR kicker. This is from NPR. Hold on a second. Conservative activist and Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk has died. shot at a college campus in Utah. As NPR Stephen Fowler reports, the 31-year-old helped usher in an age of in-your-face conservative politics that resonated with young voters, especially young
Starting point is 00:30:19 men. Charlie Kirk was well known as an energizing speaker and organizer, getting young conservatives registered to vote and ultimately activating a key demographic for a party that has struggled with young people. At 18, he co-founded Turning Point USA as a college campus free speech organization. crazy and wild idea. I want to try to start a youth organization to try and save Western civilization. It evolved into an empire with annual summits, faith leader outreach and successful media platforms. Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University at what was supposed to be the start of a 15 campus American comeback tour when he was shot. Stephen Fowler in PR News. Kirk was shot as he was taking questions from the audience about gun violence in the United States.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Wow It's so rare The number of NPR clips that I have Where they finish off I usually cut them short Before the guy says He signs off with I'm so and so with NPR Which the reporter did
Starting point is 00:31:19 It is unbelievably rare That then all of a sudden The host kicks in an extra little tidbit That is not rare for NPR They are just No it's very rare for NPR I mean that's their attitude but the kick in the tidbit at the end when it's not in the main report is is fairly rare believe me because this is my one of my main things I'd clip from and when I heard that what was the point just to put a little gun little gun action in there a little anti-gun stuff I just thought it was I thought it was chicken shit bad you know just bad it was a lie it was a lie it was bad form and also no
Starting point is 00:32:04 how they say he has died not he was killed he was murdered he was assassinated he has died they're subtle but that makes a difference yeah you're right that's a good catch and uh this is npr this is the you know they just don't know and they're beside i think the media somewhat especially these guys uh the public media is somewhat beside itself because it's uh doesn't know what the how to handle this because it's like uh They know they're the bad guys. Do they? Do they really know? I think there's some, when this happens, only now, I mean, when something like this happens,
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't think they generally know they're the bad guys. But I think when something like this happens, it kind of reminds them that they might be the bad guys. And so they, it's interesting to watch them because they position things differently than they normally do. Now, do you consider Charlie Kirk's turning point to be a political? political organization or something else? Well, Charlie, the way I see this, Charlie Kirk is one of those rare people that had a genuine calling during college quits.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Bill Gates is the same kind of guy. Wow. I really think so because I'm not the current Bill Gates after he got pied in the face and it changed his personality, but the original Bill Gates, he just saw something he had a vision quit harvard to start us off for a company and became the world's richest man for a long period of time and charlie kirk was the same kind of guy i mean for an 18 year older to develop an operation that resulted in him having private planes and and
Starting point is 00:33:54 850 branches around the country of his turning point USA and a big headquarters and a well organized structure. This business was highly structured and for him to himself to become one of the top and the only way to describe it. I was thinking about this a few shows ago about people like Charlie Kirk, which is not easy to do, but he's genuinely a polemicist. and people should kind of look that up and note what that is. And a polemicist is a type of debater that is designed to always win the arguments and probably could argue from both sides. And it's a skill set that is, I've only seen a few people capable of.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Gore Vidal was one of the great polemicists on the left. And Christopher Hitchens was a good one. There's others out there that come and go and they've been here and they've been here and there. William F. Buckley, probably, even though he was kind of a show-off because he was more interested in expressing his vocabulary and showing it off. But Kirk was one of the best. And he, and he had developed it, I think largely through trial and error by doing a lot of these events with the students for the last 10 years. And who knows what his future was, but it was not going to be minor and uh it was this whole thing if it was caused by a trans a trans issue that's
Starting point is 00:35:33 kind of a um like there should have been better reasons to shoot him yeah but that wasn't my question what was your question i lost track of it yeah clearly do you consider turning point USA to be a political organ. Yes. Yes. Yeah, of course I do. Have you ever seen a rally of Charlie Kirk? I've watched this stuff on video. But he wasn't there like just shilling for Republicans or the conservative party. Well, he wasn't shilling for anybody. He was lecturing people.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Lecturing them on what? On truth. No, he was lecturing. Well, there's that element. But he was lecturing them on countering. liberal ideas that are put to them. They're a basis for thinking the way they do and countering it in a very effective way by confronting it and having public debates.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Right. So cultural. Cultural. Because that's what he talked about. All his answers were about cultural issues that he disagreed with. And as far as, far as I can tell what that turned into when Trump came along was here's the guy you want to vote
Starting point is 00:36:55 for but I'm pretty sure that this was a faith organization well you can say that but the fact that the Trump administration and the Trump people themselves say if it wasn't for charlie kirk they wouldn't have gotten the youth vote and charlie kirk was a big part of their campaign yes but that so that seems political to me but that's not what the organization was I'm not I'm not disagreeing no you asked me if what you asked me and I answered what I answered. Okay. And I know you like to see it as just purely a church type of thing.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I don't see that. No, not a church type of thing. Although the outreach they had was to faith leaders everywhere. That's really what they did. And yes, they also tried to install people everywhere in politics that had the same message, the same
Starting point is 00:37:44 meaning, the same belief. For sure. Which I think was a very good idea. idea. But to call this purely political, no. No, I disagree. Here's the actress, AOC, telling us what really is going on. What one congresswoman was saying, was yelling a Republican, said that it was Democrat's fault. Democrats did this. That's what we heard or say on the House floor. I mean, people can fingerpoint all they want. Look at the record. Look at the actions of what we are doing. I don't think a single person who has dedicated their entire career to preventing gun safety legislation from getting passed in this House has any right to blame anybody else but themselves for what is happening.
Starting point is 00:38:31 We have to stop this. We can stop this. And why don't we start by acknowledging that basic common sense gun safety legislation is not taking away a gun, is not attacking the Second Amendment, but it is about ensuring the safe. of our children, of women, of people across this country to ensure that guns and firearms do not get in the hands of people who are going to use them against human beings, period. Domestic violence is one of the highest indicators of whether a person is going to kill someone else with a gun or not. There are so many other indicators. And I think it is so deeply important that when a politician tries to blame words for an action, they need to look at their action and their record.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We, like, enough of this. This is horrific. This is awful. And the assassination of Charlie Kirk risks an uncork of political chaos and violence that we cannot risk in America. We cannot risk it. It's amazing where she wasn't anywhere talking about, the nut job who stabbed that girl, that young woman to death on the train.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah, with a penknife. One of the highest indicators is not domestic violence. It's someone who's been in jail 14 times and thought voices were talking to him. From what I understand, the court record show, they arrested that guy for repeatedly misusing 9-11. And in January, his January arrest record states, he responded to officer. during a welfare check that he believed someone gave him man-made material that was inside his body controlling what he ate, walked, and talked. Yeah, that's the latest.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's an indicator of someone who's off the rails. Yeah, well, it's an indicator that we knew need to reopen some of these insane asylums. Yes, that was definitely. We have one in Currville. Stack it. Here's Chicago, Illinois governor, J.B. Pritzker, who of course blames this on Trump. My sympathy to Charlie Kirk's family and to try. Charlie Kirk, who obviously has, you know, become a target for somebody.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I don't know whether it's political violence because I don't know who did it. I know they seem to have somebody in custody. But I will say that political violence, unfortunately, has been ratcheting up in this country. We saw the shootings, the killings in Minnesota. We've seen other political violence occur in other states. And I would just say it's got to. stop. And I think there are people who are fomenting it in this country. I think the president's rhetoric often foments it. We've seen the January 6th rioters who clearly, you know, have tripped
Starting point is 00:41:30 a new era of political violence. Oh, yeah. Okay. This is another one for the list. Put that guy in the list. Anyway, in conclusion, this was, this seemed way too professional to me. shot from the roof bolt action sniper rifle no trace of the perpetrator some okay we have a picture boohoo now we have
Starting point is 00:41:56 transgender anti-fascist markings on the shell case casings it says I only heard yes but that's my point we found the we found the hijackers passport this smells this smells of some
Starting point is 00:42:12 not just some transgender nut job no that doesn't just no nothing about that feels right so anyway well the guy could have been hired yeah i mean the job was follow the money follow the money exactly what that guy said yeah i think following the money is the only way to go and they're going to have to they're going to have to descend it's yeah you got to they got to try to follow the money this is this is being orchestrated. We've noticed this before. But it's worldwide. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. And what you want to do is you want to take this group of people that didn't even exist 10 years ago, not the way it exists
Starting point is 00:43:00 today. And you want to blame it on them. It's almost like, like most prophecy of, oh, blame it all on the black women. You know, it's like hype them up and we'll blame it on them. That's what it feels like. It's always a distinct possibility. Of course, now we have, you brought up the issues, like, where Europe is subject to this. What is, you think is going on with France? Oh, well, I know what's going on with France. Well, I have two clips.
Starting point is 00:43:36 What's going on with France is they are sick of their government talking about, about sending them to war against Russia and taking that money to arm up the country and the European Union and not give them the socialist stuff they want in their 38-hour work week. That's why they're mad. France Falls. 100,000 people were expected to join the demonstrations, which aimed to block highways and parts of France's public infrastructure. Outgoing interior minister, Bruno Retail, set 80,000 security forces,
Starting point is 00:44:12 had been deployed across the country. In Paris, a fire broke out in a building, and several firefighters were sent to the scene. Demonstrators voiced frustration after President Macron appointed a new prime minister on Monday, the fifth since his second term began in 2022. Mr. Macron doesn't seem to understand that this is not just a clash of heads.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We have them, but that's what politics is. We want it to be said clearly. His agenda is against France, against the French, against the people. For example, look at the situation in the hospitals. They can't cope anymore. Many people are losing their jobs. I work in education.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I see teachers losing their jobs. Something I've never witnessed before. We can't take it anymore. We are facing a very deep social crisis. I believe that today, there is enormous anger among the people. I spoke with a nursery worker who is furious. She earns 1,600. euros, but pays 800 euros in rent. She is raising her daughter alone. I've made some research
Starting point is 00:45:18 about what's happening. To me, I realized that our future is at stake. I had to come out to defend my future, to defend this society, and to defend my homeland. If it continues like this, I honestly hope things change before I turn 40. Is that an AI voiceover that I'm hearing there? I can't tell. This protest was scheduled in July and was highly anticipated in the country. The minister decided to pull a confidence vote to two days before the demonstration in a move to reaffirm the French people's trust in his policies. The move backfired against him and led to the fall of the government last Monday. So the way they started off the report is like, well, he put in a new prime minister they don't like. That's the way it sounded to me. Who did this report?
Starting point is 00:46:03 This was, uh, I think this was NTD. Yeah, I think it was. I don't have it. I didn't make a know it. I'm sorry. Let's play part two. However, the protest itself is dividing the French people. The original call to demonstrate it came from grassroots movements, much like the yellow-west movement demanding lower taxes, but was later claimed by leftist political figures, which then turned it into a nationwide blockade led by unions and leftist groups. The protests where I'm standing at the moment in Paris is the main protest that has been organized under the slogan anti-fascism and anti-racism bloc, which has little to do with the original poll to demonstrates. So while the protest shows a strong challenge to the government, it also reveals
Starting point is 00:46:46 fractures among the French people. The president appointed a close ally as his new prime minister, Sebastian Le Corny, who took office on Wednesday, facing the same challenge to reign in France's ballooning debt as his predecessor. David Vives and the news, Paris. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. So he said, oh, well, the leftists are doing it, which is their word for Democrats. But CBC had a short, very, very important. clear report on what the problem is. Protesters and police clashed in cities across France today. Police in Montpellier used water cannons and tear gas to clear demonstrators.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Protesters angry about austerity measures, obstructed highways, set fires and barred access to some schools and offices. They're part of a massive online movement called Block Everything. Administrators say defense policies eat up public funds that should be used for hospitals and schools. Nearly 300 protesters were arrested. Ah, block everything. Where have I heard this before? The French are kick-ass when it comes to protests.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I mean, I still remember some years ago during this show era where the farmers were worked about something and they backed up these giant combines and had these these. things that would spray manure onto the... Well, they'd be doing that with the farmer protests. Yeah, they spray manure under the parliament building from a distance, which is quite creative. This sounds a lot like blackout the system. Have you heard of this?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah, which is coming on the 17th, which I think is going to be a huge dud. Oh, no, it'll be nothing. But nice webpage they put together with absolutely no information about who they are. We're not asking. We're shutting it down. The largest economic blackout protest in the U.S. Blackout the system.com. And so they have,
Starting point is 00:48:54 so it's speaking out against injustice, that would be minorities, unity and the power of the people, that would be Marxist socialist, winning together. Well, you know what that means. Why we black out the system? We are done funding our own oppression.
Starting point is 00:49:10 We are done. done being silent while the system exploits us. They're funding it? I didn't realize they were funding it. Divides us and works against us. This movement is peaceful, but it's powerful. We are using the greatest leverage we have. Our unity and economic power, they say they have no money, but to bring the system down to its knees, no to dictatorship, no to corporate greed, no to blind obedience, no to racism and oppression and no to fascism. They forgot no to Trump. And no to everything America stands for.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yes. But there's no, here, here's what you should do. Adjust your W-4. Check your taxes. Every paycheck they take more than you owe, then give it back without interest at tax time. Adjust your W-4 so you keep more in your pocket now instead of letting them use it all year. Okay. Starve the corporations. remove and withdraw your money from the banks. Banks lend your money to corporations. What do they want? I'm looking at this website. By the way, it's got a lot of JavaScript that things are flying around.
Starting point is 00:50:20 It's pretty well done. I told you. Banks lend your money to corporations that purchase politicians who make policies against the people. Regional credit unions are a better option. Well, we've been for that. Cancel subscriptions. Anything unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Cut it. Put your money back in your pockets and drive a wedge between your resources and their products. And spread the word. This is from the, I mean, why didn't they just put it on there's Socialist Party of America? Oh, it's definitely a Socialist Party thing. But there's nothing. And become a partner. There's no donation place, no donation thing, which is odd, usually, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah. Act blue. Actually act blue on something there. So this is something at the blackout pledge. Okay. But yeah, so that's a move. And I'd say that's a global socialist move. Well, what's, yeah, and it's global because right at the bottom, it says 50 states
Starting point is 00:51:20 participating 28 countries. Oh, there you go. Supporting. Ah. So what's, what 28 countries? What are we talking about here? Why? Well, they have a handy.
Starting point is 00:51:30 10 million engagement activity, 100% committed team, which we don't even see. Who is this team? We don't know. We don't know who the team is. Isn't there a link to the team? Oh, link to the wall of stolen wages. Welcome to the wall of stolen wages. We're stealing.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Oh, okay. Somehow they're being stolen. I get it. A lot of unhappy people. No, these people aren't unhappy. They're happy. I don't know if they're happy. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I think they're happy. I don't think so. Yeah. All right, so I think you have a couple clips as well, this Israel targeting Hamas and Qatar. Demanding an end to Israel's war in Gaza demonstrators shouted angrily at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as his vehicle made its way through a crowd north of Tel Aviv. Netanyahu, making clear today, nothing has changed in his mind after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike into Qatar, targeting the leadership. of Hamas. And I say to Qatar and all nations who harbor terrorists.
Starting point is 00:52:37 What? Targeting and missing. In his mind, after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike into Qatar, targeting the leadership of Hamas. And I say to Qatar and all nations who harbor terrorists, you either expel
Starting point is 00:52:53 them or you bring them to justice. Because if you don't, we will. Yesterday, strike, which caught even the United States off guard, left a number of Hamas members dead, though Hamas says its leadership survived. But the attack has upended attempts at a ceasefire to the nearly two-year war and its reinvigorated pushback against Israel. Europe needs to do more. In Strasbourg, France today, European Union Commission President Ursula
Starting point is 00:53:28 von der Leyen. We will propose sanctions on the extremist ministers. and on violent settlers. And we will also propose a partial suspension of the Association Agreement on trade-related matters. Straight condemnation for the strike into Qatar, meanwhile, continued on a number of other fronts. Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We reject and condemn Israel's aggressions on Qatar, said Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, adding this attack requires an Arab, Islamic and international response to confront such aggression. We stand with Qatar. Very. They don't even like Qatar.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Very. What's that? The Saudis don't even like Qatar. So do we know that Trump didn't give the go-ahead behind the scenes? Well, he said he didn't. It was plausible deniability and has nothing to do with this. I didn't, well, I don't know what this guy's, because you guys nuts.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Well, President Trump, Trump said he did not know about it until briefly before and then told the Qataris that it was coming. That's the official word. From boots on the ground in Doha, local concern about this was about sovereignty, not about Hamas leadership. Nobody here cares or likes Hamas. Qatar just agreed, this is boots on the ground, just agreed to try to mediate knowing Hamas's insincere in all talks. And also note that not one country has suggested pulling out of the Abram Accords with Israel since the war began, nor did they care about the attack on Iran. So this is again from Qatar.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Separately, a significant number of those reported killed in Gaza are Hamas fighters and family members. In general, there's indifference towards death outside the Western world. That's probably true. Maybe they look at death differently than we do. We see it as kind of crappy. Well, you know, there wasn't a great, the, the reason Trump has to stay completely beyond a plausible deniability position, he needs to be in that position because the United States is the one who set up Qatar to be the Doha, you know, where you have, the Hamas can be there so we can do negotiations with him and they can be safe. Right. It looks pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:55:59 But they haven't done any, any negotiations. so let's bomb the hell out of them or kill them while they're there. This whole thing is very suspect. Oh, so you think Trump knew? I do think he knew. Because I stick it with the thing that we're running Israel. They're not running us. No, I don't think they're running.
Starting point is 00:56:19 If anything, I think this is why I think they may have gone too far. I just don't see it. Well, let's see this France 24 report has, I think, something about it. A show of solidarity from regional leaders. The president of the United Arab Emirates and Crown Prince of Jordan are in Qatar Wednesday, a day after Israel's attack on its soil. The Qatari Prime Minister said Tuesday it would not be put off in its efforts to mediate a deal between Israel and Hamas, but didn't let Israel off the hook.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Mediation in Qatari diplomacy is part of our identity and will continue. Nothing will deter us from carrying out this role. Does the world need a clear message than this? Who is closing the door to peace? Does the international community need a louder signal? Who is the bully in this region? Hamas, who were discussing the Trump administration's latest ceasefire proposal in Doha when they were struck, said their targeting showed Israel didn't want to reach an agreement.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Meanwhile, Israeli hostage family members expressed alarm that the attack sabotaged any hope for those still being held by Hamas. President Trump, meanwhile, attempted damage control, issuing a rare rebuke to Israel and calling Qatar, which is home to the largest American military base in the Middle East, a strong U.S. ally and friend, Arab countries are increasingly concerned about Israel's belligerence and the attack risks undermining U.S. credibility in the region. I think this is the final nail in the coffin of any kind of negotiations that is taking place between Israel and Hamas, as far as it is mediated by Qatar. Qatar has always been the diplomatic channel of these negotiations
Starting point is 00:57:57 and it does not intend to pay a direct price by playing this role. And if that's, that is obviously the kind of consequence that also Netanyahu and the Israeli government probably expect to happen. On Wednesday, Israel warned that its enemies were not safe anywhere and that if it hadn't succeeded in killing Hamas leaders this time, it would the next. Yeah, it just seems like it's our negotiators, it's our idea, it's our proposal, we've got a base there. and then Trump's going to go, yeah, okay, go ahead, kill him. And then they don't kill him? Well, that's the thing that probably irked Trump. And Trump didn't go ahead and say that.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Like I said, he's in a position of plausible denial. But he's no, he didn't, no, he's got nothing to do with it. Trump is a politician at this point in his life, and this sort of thing can go on. So what was the end game? What was the benefit? Well, we've given up, the end game is that we, We've given up on dealing with Hamas. Hamas is just either has to be completely wiped out.
Starting point is 00:59:02 It's just an impasse. They won't negotiate with good faith. And the negotiations, they lie. They're just a terrible group of people. And the Palestinians support them. There's nothing. They're just going to have to let this play out. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It's beyond me. I think it's beyond Trump. It's beyond everybody. Well, for sure. They kept a ran out of it, and maybe that'll, maybe that'll help. Yeah, maybe. You got anything? I did have, I think I may have a thing.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Yes, you have ICC rebuke. Well, this is different. This is from, this is actually a clip. This started a while ago. The ICC is going after Netanyahu, which is, maybe something here that applies. Let's play this clip. Israel released footage on Wednesday of terrorists fleeing as an Israeli tank approached them in the Gaza Strip. Many of them attempted to take cover in this tunnel entrance, but Israel struck the area before one of the terrorists was able to make it inside.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Israel also released an infographic showing where they established security zones along the Gaza Strip border. And after Operation Gideon's chariots, they increased that security zone, and Israel now controls about 75% of the Gaza Strip border. Strip. A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces said that Operation Gideon's chariots enabled them to increase operations in Gaza's largest city. We will deepen the damage to
Starting point is 01:00:34 Hamas in Gaza City, a stronghold of governmental and military terror for the terrorist organization. We are not waiting. We have begun the preliminary actions, and already now, IDF troops are holding the outskirts of Gaza City. On Wednesday, Israel said they were
Starting point is 01:00:50 calling up 60,000 reservists, to report for duty and that they were extending current orders for 20,000 reservists who were already deployed. Meanwhile, the Israeli government gave the final approval for plans to begin construction of a new settlement east of Jerusalem. Thousands of homes are expected to be built in an area that would nearly divide the West Bank into two parts. An Israeli official said the new settlement would, quote, bury the idea of a Palestinian state, a representative of the Bedouin community in the West Bank said they received demolition orders for buildings in the area about a week ago. And he called on the international community to prevent Israel from
Starting point is 01:01:32 establishing the new settlement in the West Bank. And in another development, the U.S. Department of State issued further sanctions against two judges and two deputy prosecutors belonging to the International Criminal Court, which is supported by the United Nations. What a waste of money that thing is. No one cares. No one adheres. to your stupid court. International criminal court. Well, they're always hoping it takes hold. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:00 How long has that been? 30 years they've been trying? Ever, forever. No one cares about it. There's a second part to this. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, quote, the court is a national security threat that has been an instrument for lawfare
Starting point is 01:02:14 against the United States and for our close ally, Israel. The decision comes after the court issued arrest warrants for Israel, officials over the war in the Gaza strip. An Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and a post on X, praised the U.S. decision
Starting point is 01:02:30 and accused the court of conducting a smear campaign against Israel and the Israel defense forces. On the other hand, the United Nations said the sanctions, quote, undermine the foundation of international justice. Ooh, international justice.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah, there's international justice everywhere. The international part is the problem. Yeah, there's no international nothing. It's all men, everyone for himself at the end of the day. So I've been... Well, that's not the plan. No, that's not the plan. But the New World Order is not coming to fruition the way they ever wanted it to.
Starting point is 01:03:07 They've been trying that all my life too. Oh, the New World Order. Here comes. Yes. And the Antichrist is arising. Yes. So I've been following this story in Germany and there was really, no clips or anything on it.
Starting point is 01:03:25 This is about the sudden deaths of many of the AFD alternative for Deutschland candidates. Oh, yes. This is a story. Then there's got to be some clips on this. Yes, all of a sudden, all of a sudden. Well, all of a sudden is not entirely true. But yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Well, all of a sudden, kind of. You know, over time, they've been taking out these AFD guys. Yeah. One after the other. What do you think? Well, let's listen to the Euro News. Verify. Verifies. Without evidence, verify. As many as six candidates for the far-right alternative for Germany Party have died in recent weeks ahead of local elections in the state of North Rhine Vestphalia.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And it's prompted unfounded suspicions on social media. On September the 14th, district, municipal and city councils, as well as some mayors will be elected in the Western German state, with a reported 20,000 candidates running for office. Police have ruled out any foul play in relation to these six deaths. The causes range from serious pre-existing conditions to suicide. A senior official from Alternative for Germany itself has also dismissed speculation that these deaths were in any way intentional.
Starting point is 01:04:41 But there have also been clear attempts to sow conspiracy and suspicions. The party's leader, Alice Vidal, shared a post-onel, on X, where another user describes the death toll as statistically almost impossible. This theory has been amplified on social media and by controversial public figures. Here, British far-right activist Tommy Robinson asks, what's going on? And the billionaire owner of X, Elon Musk, comments, weird. Conservative publications have also misleadingly described the deaths as mysterious or unexpected. The North Ryan Vestfalia Ministry of the Interior has said that candidates from other parties have also died in the electoral campaign,
Starting point is 01:05:25 but that these deaths have not sparked the same and founded suspicions. The deaths do mean that ballot papers issued in certain constituencies, as well as some mailing votes, are now invalid. It also means the party will have to nominate new candidates to replace the deceased. So my takeaway from this in the most vaccinated country in Europe, pretty much, locked down like dogs forever. 20,000 candidates. You know, this is, it's not like the national parliament elections here. This is all small elections all over the country.
Starting point is 01:06:03 The suicide one I'd like to know more about, but, you know, 20,000 people die. I'm a little less suspicious than I was. Oh, so you think it's just a that bunch of. of Vax deaths. Yeah, probably. And, you know, it's clickbait. It's a good clickbait. Elon Musk, weird.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Hmm, weird. Stay on X. What a comment. Stay on X. It's weird. Yes, it's very, very weird. And we also got a, this was kind of fun.
Starting point is 01:06:36 This is about the GPS jamming of Queen Ursula's Jet, which I think we pretty much pulled apart for you on the last show. They do the same here, but yeah, they got to leave some doubt. in the Verify segment from Euro News. Reports that European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen's plane was targeted by Russian GPS
Starting point is 01:06:56 jamming as she travelled to the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv on the 31st of August have sparked major speculation. The Financial Times first broke the story on the 1st of September, reporting that von der Leyen's plane circled Plovdiv Airport for an hour using paper maps to land. We have received information from the Bulgarian authorities that they suspect that this was due to blatant interference by Russia. But days later
Starting point is 01:07:25 on the 4th of September, Bulgaria's Deputy Prime Minister, Gorsdan Karasov, denied that the government has submitted any information about Russian interference to the European Commission. In an apparent attempt to backpedal on those initial claims, the country's Prime Minister Rosen Zeliyazkov
Starting point is 01:07:41 said there was no evidence of prolonged interference or jamming of the GPS signal around Plobdiv airport. The Prime Minister later said that although no jamming had been detected by ground instruments, this didn't exclude the possibility of onboard devices detecting jamming. Analyst from Flight Radar 24 told Euroverified that according to their data, the aircraft maintained a good GPS signal throughout the flight. Their data also contradicted the Financial Times assertion that the aircraft circled Plovdiv for an hour, as flight records reveal that
Starting point is 01:08:12 the aircraft landed only a few minutes late. Although there are a place, There are a thorough of doubts surrounding this incident, Moscow has intensified GPS jamming targeting planes and ships since it launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, primarily targeting the area surrounding the Baltic Sea. Right, so I play these back-to-back, because if I don't believe one, why would I believe the other? What horse crap that is, verify?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Well, you know, there's no evidence, and the GPS data shows through ADSB that there's no evidence, but, you know, Russia's been doing this. they want war so bad, please give us war, whatever you do, and this... Well, it'll straighten out the French economy. Oh, they need it for that very reason. Germany has, everything's kaput. To speak in a good German word, kaput.
Starting point is 01:09:05 This is kaput. They've got no energy. They got no, no industry. They've turned the car factories into building tanks and planes and other stuff. They need this war. And which, of course, puts this Russian drones in Poland into a suspicious light. And Nathan may have more geopolitical news this morning related to the war in Ukraine. Poland has shot down drones that crossed into its territory during a Russian air strike on Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:09:32 The Polish military calling it an act of aggression and the country's premier is asking NATO allies for support. Bloomberg Daybreak Europe anchor Stephen Carroll is in Brussels and joins us live with the details. Good morning, Stephen. Good morning, Karen and Nathan. Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk says his country's airspace was violated by a huge number of Russian drones in the early hours of this morning. Airports were closed for several hours, while citizens in the East were told to stay indoors. It's the first time the NATO member has shot down military aircraft that have strayed into its airspace since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The EU's foreign affair chief, Kyakhalas, says the incursion appears to be intentional.
Starting point is 01:10:12 The Polish Prime Minister has asked NATO to invoke Article 4. of its treaty, which triggers consultations on a military response. Oh, no. Article 4. We're DefCon 4. Oh, boy. What does Queen Ursula have to say? We have seen a reckless and unprecedented violation.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Violation. Of Poland and Europe's airspace by more than 10 Russian Shahid drones. Shahit? Europe stands in full solidarity with Poland. Yeah, war. Woo! We can do it. Come on, everybody.
Starting point is 01:10:41 We got Article 4. Article 4. We're just one away from five. One away. One away. Which means to drag us our ass into the whole thing. Well, that's what they want, for sure. I have a drones in Poland clip, too, if there's anything different.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Okay, drones in Poland. Russian drones reportedly entered Polish airspace on Wednesday. Poland says it shut them down with the backing of military aircraft from its NATO allies. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk says it's the closest the country has been to open conflicts since World War II. We are most likely dealing with a large-scale provocation. But at the same time, we are in consultation with our allies. I am in constant contact with the NATO Secretary General.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Prime Minister activated Article 4 of NATO's treaty under which I like... Wow, nice way. He activated Article 4. Is there like a button that he has to push? Hello, everybody. I am Mark Ruta. I'm activating Article 4. contact with the NATO Secretary General. The Prime Minister activated Article 4 of NATO's treaty under which alliance members can demand consultation with their allies. The head of NATO says the organization is still assessing the situation.
Starting point is 01:11:56 A full assessment of the incident is ongoing. What is clear is that a violation last night is not an isolated incident. Russia, meanwhile, denies the allegations. It's not isolated because of that other drone that they, that they, the Ukraine. actually said was not a russian that was not from russia that remember that that was just yeah right yeah the even the ukrainians say no that i wasn't from russia but it's ongoing engage article four what is clear is that violation last night is not an isolated incident russia meanwhile denies the allegations the country's defense ministry issued a statement saying
Starting point is 01:12:38 its drones carried out a major attack on military facilities in western ukraine adding that it had not planned to hit any targets in Poland. But Poland's minister of foreign affairs says he doesn't believe that, warning of possible escalation. Even though NATO is not at war, Russian aggression strikes beyond Ukraine. The United Nations is now warning of a possible wider conflict. The regional impact and real risk of expansion of this devastating conflict. The incident comes just a few days after a meeting between President Trump and the President, of Poland. Some U.S. troops are stationed in Poland. During the meeting, Trump was asked if the
Starting point is 01:13:18 soldiers are scheduled to stay there. If anything, we'll put more there if they want, but they've long wanted to have a larger presence. We have some countries that have more, not too many, but no, they'll be staying in Poland. We're very much aligned with Poland. The report goes on. But wasn't Trump the guy wanted to get all these guys out of the world? you know, we had these bases everywhere. What happened to that? Well, he's selling all the stuff now. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I have a couple of clips from our guy analyzing this. Oh, your buddy. Yes, right. The Canadian guy. The Canadian, Andrew Sulas. What do you make of Russia's actions? Do you believe that this was intentional, or as Belarus says, it was all an accident? It could be a combination of the two, really.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I think we have to look at what's happening strategically. The Russians are mounting the beginning of their fall offensive. They have decided that they will not be able to reach a compromise deal that is in their favor with the Ukrainians through any kind of negotiation at present. So they are now on a war path. They are now increasing their war effort against Ukraine, both in the ground and in the air. And this was a continual range of large-scale attacks against Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Now, the question is, were these missiles, which sometimes do fly close to the Polish border in order to hit Western Ukraine, was this, as the Belarusians are saying, a jamming exercise because they would be, the Ukrainians would be jamming them. So that's a possibility. We'll have to see what the investigations are. The other one, you know, if we want to speculate, is the Russians are continuing to signal to NATO and Western countries that, you know, don't think about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine because we're prepared to take you on. So that's a more aggressive interpretation. I'm
Starting point is 01:15:14 not saying that's what it is, but it could be to show, look, we're going to test your air defenses in case one day we may have to fight you if you put your boots on the ground, which we've told you not to do. So this is what I think what's going on here. We don't know the ground truth yet, but the investigations hopefully will reveal that. I find the coincidence of Ursula clearly lying about GPS jamming and now, well, the Ukrainians might have been, it's just there's too much jamming talk going on, you know? I agree. And the thing that might also be going on because it's doable is that you can, if you can
Starting point is 01:15:53 figure out what these signals are that are controlling the, take control of them. Take control of the drones and then drive them over to Poland and drop them in a bunch of fields, which is just basically what happened. Yeah, well, here's talking about Article 4. We've engaged Article 4. So tell us more than about NATO's actions moving forward. As we mentioned, Poland is on high alert. They have triggered now Article 4, which means an emergency meeting of NATO allies,
Starting point is 01:16:22 which, of course, includes the United States, President Trump. What will happen do you think next? Well, this is all about firming up NATO's, eastern defense of its territories, the eastern flank, which of course includes Canada. Canada has the brigade in Latvia, for example, very close to all of this.
Starting point is 01:16:44 So this means that NATO is taking now whatever steps are necessary to beef up its air defenses and its ground defenses as well, but really, now we're talking air defense systems in case there are any further incursions. So it's a bit of a ramp up. This is not a panic,
Starting point is 01:17:00 but this is Article 4, which has now been activated, is a consultative mechanism. It's been activated a few times before. It is a logical stepstone part of a controlled escalation or counter-escalation, if you will. And so we'll have to wait
Starting point is 01:17:15 and see, but everything is under control right now. It's interesting. It's tense, but under control. I feel so much more comfortable when he says that. Everything's okay. Article 4 is just a Zoom meeting, people. Don't get your panties in a bunch. We're just going to have a little call.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That's basically what he said. But he also, but he also said has been implemented before. I'd like to know when. Oh, that's a good question. I mean, that's the first thing I'd ask. Oh, it's been implemented before under what circumstances. I think in 2022. Well, you think. Now, I'm pretty sure. Uh, 2020 article four. I'm pretty sure, um, just before probably, you asked your friend, your buddy there, your error. She would probably know if you asked her. I would say the question would be, how many times has article four been implemented by, NATO and when?
Starting point is 01:18:08 How many times has Article 4 been implemented? Oh, voice connection lost. Hold on. Okay. How many times has Article 4 been implemented by NATO and when? NATO's Article 4 has been invoked eight times total since 1949. Here's the rundown. First in 2003 over Iraq's security concerns, then Turkey in 2003 for Cyprus, again Turkey in 2006, amid Israeli Lebanon tensions, Romania and others in 2008 after Russia's Georgia invasion, Poland in 2014, during Ukraine's crisis, multiple allies like Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, in February 22, post-Russia's
Starting point is 01:18:56 Ukraine attack, and most recently, Poland yesterday, September 10th, 2025, over those Russian drone incursions. Each one's basically a heads-up for talks, not full-on action. What's with the breathiness? Boy, that was a good report. I'm going to give her a tell you can moan and groan about her breathiness, but I'm giving her 10 points for that. That took care of it. But she didn't say 2022. Did she? I didn't hear her say. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Okay, 20. She had it covered. It was, it was great. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm impressed. Oh, no. Here's the final clip. So the question is, of course, what are the options if it was intentional?
Starting point is 01:19:41 If it is determined through an investigation that this was intentional, then what does NATO do? And actually, Andrew, can that be determined? I'm not an expert on these systems and how they look at their guidance systems, but they have the pieces in Poland. So the experts will look at it. and they will make some kind of determination. There's also radar, the flight plans. You can say these systems, the Russians are saying systems were not long range. They couldn't have reached Ukrainian territory.
Starting point is 01:20:16 They had to be, like the way they were going, so they were deflected. I mean, that's an argument, right? So the experts will look at flight plans. They will look at the actual substance of the drones that they have found in Poland and try to put together a piece. So I will stay away from the technical analysis. but on military, political military point of view, NATO will take this as a need to strengthen its defenses and remain on guard. But this is...
Starting point is 01:20:42 Huh? Strengthen its defenses by spending money. Oh, well, of course. That's what it's always about. So I will stay away from the technical analysis, but on military, political, military point of view, NATO will take this as a need to strengthen its defenses and remain on guard. But this is not to go to war with Russia, because Russia clearly at this point, for sure, is not going to war with Poland and NATO. So we're not at that level at all.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But we are playing aggressive because of the war in Ukraine. We come back. This is all about Russia trying to defeat the Ukrainians in a substantial way to get what they want from Ukraine. Presumably, I think, by 2025, at the end of the year, the Russians are really putting on the pressure now. Putin is not serious all about a ceasefire. and he actually made that point to Trump in Alaska. He wanted a peace settlement first before a ceasefire. That's very clear from the Russian position.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Now, what does that mean? That means the Russians want a peace settlement on terms favorable to their objectives. And until they get that, Ukrainians are saying no. So the Russians are saying, well, then more war, until we can convince you, the Ukrainians, through military action, to come our way. It's a knock-em-sockham war right now to see who prevails. Knock em, sock them. Rock them, sock them robots, everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Well, the significance of Poland is not lost on me, historically speaking. You know, when Germany invaded Poland. Oh, yeah. That started World War II, in essence. Well, of course, what would always be good is we could have a nice little World War I assassination of some Duke somewhere. They don't need much. they really don't need much. And America always enters late into these things.
Starting point is 01:22:36 We weren't there at the beginning of World War I, World War II. No, we were laid on both. Now, in this case, you know, be careful of the, be wary of the military industrial complex. Follow that money. Especially with drones, Eric Schmidt. You know, who's controlling the drone? Who knows how to control other people's drone?
Starting point is 01:22:59 This whole drone thing is spectacular. I think the drone warfare with the taking control of other people's drones through espionage, you can find out what their codes are, I'm sure. You could get in. I think that's a bigger threat than the drones themselves. Yes. Well, the whole drone thing is just no good. But can you imagine just even one of these air shows where you have all the drones
Starting point is 01:23:26 that make the designs in the sky? pretty spectacular and taking control of that and then driving those, you know, 10 or 20 or 30,000 drones into the crowd. This is what you're imagining. And also, what, what is never really well explained is these drones. I mean, what size are they? Are these like, Reaper drones? Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Well, they said they were, they said there was Shaheed's. Shaheed, okay, picture of the. in the report. That's Iranian drone? Yes, an Iranian drone. So let me see what that looks like. That's what they said. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Well, of course. We have to emphasize. Oh, that's one of those delta wing deals. Oh, that's the Shaheed drone. Oh, that's the good looking one. It's a very handsome drone. Handsome drone. And the other report I heard about these drones was that they don't know that they were armed.
Starting point is 01:24:26 They said they may even not been armed, which would lead, lead credence to the analysis that the Russians were just testing, which leads credence that the Russians did it on purpose and just to test the air defenses. That's a possibility. Man, what kind of world war do you have when everyone's just using drones on each other? Oh, it's not going to be, it's going to be unpleasant. Every war that there's been so far, the big ones, all of them. Well, they've all been unpleasant. None of them are pleasant. Well, they've all, you know, they've gone from the, you know, these things that have catapults to to cross bows to one different kinds of you know flanks a phalanx designed attacks
Starting point is 01:25:10 horses with you know stirrups i mean every little increase in in technology how minor it might be always results in a war to test it out ah exactly there it is yeah it's a show it's it's It's basically an air show. Well, it takes care of a number of problems when you get rid of a bunch of people because you want population control because you're duts. And the other thing is that it improves your economy. It gets everybody on the same page. It creates nationalism,
Starting point is 01:25:43 which you need to keep your society going. It's a plus it's a win-win. Hmm. Yeah. Well, isn't it always? I mean, from that's, by I say that, facetious. the win-win part because it's not a win-win at all, but it's a win-win. Aren't all wars, basically, banker wars?
Starting point is 01:26:05 Whenever we're in financial problems globally, isn't that when the wars usually start? Well, I think if you go back in history, the banker aspect was minor. I think the bankers benefit. Modern, modern history. I mean, without... Well, there is a lot of discussion in the left wing, when I was going to a left-wing school at Berkeley. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:26 They would discuss the World War I is a war that we should have not got involved in because it was a bankers war. It was the bankers of England that got us to join them to turn the tide of the war, which we did. To pay for it, to pay for it. And help finance it. We're good at that. And sure, the element was in play. Right. But if you just look at the financial situation of the world where every,
Starting point is 01:26:56 All money is fake and phony. All of it. It's all fake. It's all just made up of derivatives of debt, debt, debt, debt, or credit, no matter which way, which is whatever side you're on. I mean, how else can everybody get out of this hole? We need a war, a reset. That's your great reset right there. Well, that would definitely take care of the deficit.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Yeah. Sadly. But yeah. Hmm. Well, that's a good thought. I'll take Stablecoin over war any day. Yeah. Any day.
Starting point is 01:27:32 It may be part of, in fact, stablecoin may be part of the mechanism that creates the war. Very possible, but I'm hopeful it isn't. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Hey, by the way, another thing that is poorly covered, I can only get one of my favorite Indian voices to talk about it, is the uprising in Nepal. Have you seen the mess that's going on? on there? No, just when you got me on that one. Oh, yes. Well, she pronounces it funny, but here we go.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It's chaos in the Himalayas, the tiny... Himalayas? Himalayas. It's the Hamalayas. Chaos in the Hamalayas. It's chaos in the Himalayas. The tiny country of Nepal has been gripped by violence. The parliament was on fire. Ministers were thrashed on the streets. The Supreme Court was torched and the capital of Kathmandu was overrun. This wasn't just a protest. It was a total upheaval. The biggest exit came around noon today. Prime Minister K.P. Sharma, Oli, announced his resignation. He simply couldn't hang on. Oli had unleashed a crackdown on Monday.
Starting point is 01:28:39 It was the worst in Nepal's recent history. 19 protesters were killed, plus at least 100 were injured. And today, the backlash was evident. Thousands of protesters hit the streets of Nepal. Oli's own private residence was torched. The Prime Minister had no choice. he announced his resignation later in the day he said he was quitting to allow
Starting point is 01:29:00 a political solution to the crisis soon afterwards an army helicopter was seen over his house it ferried only away from the chaos to where well nobody knows yet but what exactly is the root of this crisis and how did it escalate so fast
Starting point is 01:29:16 the trigger was a social media ban last week Kathmandu blocked 26 online platforms including Instagram and Facebook In response, thousands of young Nepalis hit the streets. Now, Nepal, as you would know, is a young country. Around 43% of the population is below 40 years of age. So the protesters were largely Gen Z.
Starting point is 01:29:38 There you go. I'm looking at the headlines here. Why Gen Z has taken over the streets in Nepal. Yeah. The Paul protests. The Gen Z protests in Nepal urgent or is organic or deep state regime change. Oh, well, they're fascinating. There were a lot of professionally printed signs.
Starting point is 01:29:58 So that to me was like, uh-huh, okay. But blocking 26 social media sites, that's when people lose their crap. That's what I keep telling. If you really want to upset Americans, you know. Well, that's why Trump couldn't follow through with banning TikTok. Yes. He either kill their dogs. That's how Trump won.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Back in 2019, he was going to ban TikTok. Now, we're almost 10 years later. No, you can't do that. You can't do that. Americans care about two things. You win the election by saying... They're eating the dogs. That's how you win an election.
Starting point is 01:30:37 You lose if you take away their TikTok, or anything for that matter. Anything. Right in time for the brand new Apple iPhones. Apple unveiled new iPhones, AirPods, and watches today. The new iPhone 17 has a faster chip. better scratch resistance and comes in new colors and it starts at $799.
Starting point is 01:31:00 The pro version has a new design, a better zoom, and a bigger battery, and it's the most expensive at $1,099. And the new, brand new, iPhone Air, is a thinner version of the flagship iPhone. It starts at $999. The new Apple Watch Series 11 will be able to alert users to possible high blood pressure
Starting point is 01:31:23 and new AirPods Pro 3 include heart rate sensing and improved noise cancellation. All the new products will be available September 19. Yeah, hello, 2015 called Apple. They want their new iPhones back. This company, are they crazy? They promised AI for a whole year and a half. Oh, that's not coming. We're not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Well, it's thin. It's thin. It's thin. The actual weight of the iPhone 17 Air is the same weight as the iPhone 11. Is that right? Yeah, they've just packed more crap and made them big. These phones are also huge. They're huge.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Women can barely hold them in their hands anymore. Well, the bigger they are, the easier they are as steel. Yeah, well, that's true. But things are going crazy in technology. This, this story. crazy, are they going? Well, I'm glad you ask. I have a two-partner about Oracle. And let's get a business update
Starting point is 01:32:27 now with Charles Pellegrant, beginning with Elon Musk briefly losing his position as the world's richest person. That's right, Oliver. It was brief, but it did happen on Wednesday tech billionaire. Larry Ellison overtook Musk in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index after
Starting point is 01:32:43 Oracle, business software company. He has a 41% stake in, saw its shares surge after released a better-than-expected financial forecasts. At one point, those shares rose more than 40% before closing the session up almost 36% at over $328 a share. So that meant the 81-year-old shot up to the top of the rankings for a bit, with a net worth much larger than the entire GDP of Nigeria this year, for instance. But this Thursday, Musk, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, took his place back at the top of the
Starting point is 01:33:18 rankings dominated by the men that control the largest U.S. tech firms, as you can see there, like Mark Zuckerberg, at META in third place, Bezos, at Amazon, or Larry Page, one of the founders at Google. Worth noting that Elon and Musk have a close relationship, some saying Ellison was a bit of a mentor to Musk sitting on the board at Tesla for four years and providing financial assistance for Musk to buy Twitter in 2022. to, they also share similar politics. So, first of all, the robber barons, a clear list, there you go.
Starting point is 01:33:54 It's all tech guys. But this Oracle's shares surging was mania. Yeah, that's pretty funny. This is the second part of the report. So what was behind this sudden surge in Oracle's shares and in Ellison's net worth? Well, an earnings call with analysts that left all of Wall Street. slackshod using words like blown away or momentous
Starting point is 01:34:20 or in shock. The software companies said it actually missed its earnings and revenue targets for the quarter, but it was its forecasts which really wowed everyone, specifically on its cloud infrastructure business. Oracle said it had signed four
Starting point is 01:34:35 multi-billion dollar contracts in that sector with three different customers this quarter, one of which with Chad GPT maker OpenAI to develop over four gigawatt of U.S. Data Center capacity. It's predicting that its cloud business will boom over the next four years
Starting point is 01:34:52 generating $18 billion in revenue this year and reaching, as you can see there, $144 billion in fiscal 2030. Nevertheless, there is some risk there. Notably, with the Open AI deal, the startup might be a huge name and generating a lot of excitement, but it's not expected to generate any profit
Starting point is 01:35:11 before 2029. Dude, this is pets.com level. Missed their earnings. Missed the revenue. It's not even close. It's way beyond Pets.com. It's not even close to Pets. Pets.com was a short-term flash in the pan,
Starting point is 01:35:28 interesting idea, which actually probably wasn't a bad idea. I could have made money, but this is ridiculous. And the thing about pushing it out to 2029 is the thing that's a real, it's just hilarious. But all, I mean, I can't wait until the DHS unplug.
Starting point is 01:35:43 And the amount of money they're talking about, And $149 billion. Yeah. We're talking about, you know, defense department levels. Yes. Yeah. With no product.
Starting point is 01:35:58 It's no. And all that Ellison has ever said is, well, just imagine that Larry, there's a cut of pictures of him floating around. You know, you guys are like 82 now. He's up there. And he's got a Cheshire cat green.
Starting point is 01:36:12 It doesn't even look like him anymore. It's like, He's just guy, well, I did it, because Larry's thing back in the 80s, when Bill Gates was the richest man in the world, he was always, this was known in the Valley, kind of, if you knew ever was in this milieu. Ellison was irked as hell that Bill Gates, who he thought was an idiot, was the richest man in the world. And he thought he should be the richest man in the world. and he was mocked by a lot of the locals for being, oh, he wants to be the richest man in the world. That's all he cares about.
Starting point is 01:36:53 He'll never do it because Bill Gates will always outpace him because Gates is really smarter. And he finally made it. So let's just go back and listen to this is from, when was this? This is from July when the whole Stargate thing was announced. I think this is it. Thank you, Mr. President. One of the most exciting things we're working on, again, using the tools that Sam and Mossa are providing, is a cancer vaccine. It's very interesting. Early diet, it turns out, I'll be quick, all of our cancers, cancer tumors, little fragments of those tumors float around in your blood. So you can do early cancer detection. If you can do using a, you can do early cancer detection with a blood test.
Starting point is 01:37:45 and using a from what's that lady the blood test from what's your name holmes there a Elizabeth Holmes and using AI to look at the blood test you can find the cancer is that are actually seriously threatening the person then beyond that here we go once we gene sequence once we gene sequence that cancer tumor you can then vaccinate the person design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer. And you can make that vaccine, that MRNA vaccine. You can make that robotically, again, using AI in about 48 hours.
Starting point is 01:38:33 So imagine early cancer detection, the development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you and have that vaccine available in 48 hours. This is the promise of AI. and the promise of the future. So he's predicting 10x what he's doing now, missing the revenue and profit targets by 2029. Does that mean we'll have 10x the cancer?
Starting point is 01:39:01 Because clearly, if you're doing all this, people have cancer. Or is this all just in case? Well, I'm confused because I don't know that they're doing. this at all. Well, this was, this was, this was during the Stargate launch. This was what Oracle is doing with their AI. Yeah, but where's the evidence that it's actually being implemented? None, there's none of it. And then he had this little ditty about Stargate. This, this, this is great because we'll not, we all have cancer will also all be hunted down by the cops. The police will be on their best behavior because we record, we're constantly recording, watching and recording everything
Starting point is 01:39:44 that's going on. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on. This is like black mirror. And it's unimpeachable. The cars have cameras, you know, cameras
Starting point is 01:40:00 on them. Everything has cameras. I think we have a squad car here somewhere. But those kind of applications using AI, if we can use AI, and we're using AI to monitor the video. Yeah. So if that altercation it occurred, it occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified.
Starting point is 01:40:17 And where was the monitoring of Epstein's cell with your AI, Larry? It's not people that are looking at those cameras. It's AI that's looking at the camera. No, no, no, no. You can't do this. It would be like a shooting. That's going to be immediately, that's going to be an event that's immediately, an alarm is going to go off.
Starting point is 01:40:33 We have a shooting. We have a shooting. Have supervision. In other words, every police officer is going to be supervised at all times. and the supervision will and if there's a problem AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate person
Starting point is 01:40:50 whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whomever we need to take control of the situation. He's describing a bad Simpsons episode. So we'll all be safe but we'll all have cancer.
Starting point is 01:41:06 I mean, come on Larry, you can't have it both ways. MIT just came out with their report, the state of AI in business, 2025. We'll just take MIT. I mean, would you trust an MIT report? It depends on how they documented. I probably would. Executive summary.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Despite $30 to $40 billion in enterprise investment into Gen AI, which I think, I'm not sure what that means anymore. This report... Gen. Oh, generative. Okay. Was it generative? Is it general interrogative?
Starting point is 01:41:41 It means generative. So making songs on Suno. Is that generative? Making art for the no agenda show. So they spent $30 billion in enterprise investments and we've got art. Yeah, well, we got $30 billion with art for free. $30 billion. Come on.
Starting point is 01:42:01 This is a good deal. This report uncovers a surprising result in that 95% of organizations are getting zero return. What? We talked about this about three or four shows ago when J.C., who's the AI expert in the family, discussed the fact that a major AI company that makes a product that is important to the AI world, they did a deep dive into this
Starting point is 01:42:32 and found that 1,000 out of 1,000 examples that could not find any benefits from using AI. The outcomes are so starkly divided across, both buyers, enterprises, mid-market, small-medium businesses, and builders, startups, vendors, consultancies, that we call it the Gen A Divide. Just 5% of integrated AI pilots were extracting millions in value, while the vast majority remains stuck with no measurable P&L impact. That's your balance sheet.
Starting point is 01:43:06 This divide does not seem to be driven by model quality or regulation, but seems to be determined by approach. Tools like chat GPT and co-pilot are widely adopted. Over 80% of organizations have explored or piloted them and nearly 40% report deployment. But these tools primarily enhance individual productivity, like making art for the no agenda show and you should be working for your boss.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Or asking error about the... About World War II. About Article 4. She gave us that information. It was a benefit to the show. Productivity. right there. But no P&L performance. Meanwhile, enterprise-grade systems, custom or vendor sold, are being quietly rejected. 60% of organizations evaluated such tools, but only 20% reached pilot stage
Starting point is 01:43:54 and just 5% reach production. Most failed due to brittle workflows, lack of contextual learning, and misalignment with day-to-day operations. I think that's MIT speak for it sucks. From our interview, surveys and analysis of 300 public implementations, four patterns emerge that define the Gen A divide. Limited disruption. Only two of eight major sectors show meaningful structural change. Enterprise Paradox. Ooh, that's a good one.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Big firms lead in pilot volume but lag in scale-up. Investment bias. Budgets favor visible top-line functions over high ROI back office. An implementation advantage. External partnerships see twice the success rate of internal builds. This is a very damning report. I'd say. What was that paradox phrase?
Starting point is 01:44:49 That's a good one, isn't it? Enterprise Paradox. That's a show title. I know. I'm writing it down. Enterprise Paradox. Yeah. But don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:45:01 You know, it's making cool art. Yeah, but by 2029, it'll shake out. Yeah, 10X? what's the tam larry it's going to be 10x it's going to be beautiful larry doesn't at the hey larry got what he really wanted he doesn't now he doesn't care oh he just wanted to be the richest man briefly he just wants to be the richest man in the world for a moment in time yeah and he's achieved that and so now we can just forget about it uh yeah gen a i divide gen a i is that are we going to see that as the next after gen alpha we have gen a i well it's not it doesn't mean
Starting point is 01:45:41 generations so no not yet they'll be drinking gatorade for the electrolytes no you're using it to grow crops to grow crops because it has electrolytes exactly yes i did get a boots on the ground from carson uh uh who is gen z and works at a college bookstore that sells textbooks including digital books. A Gen Z customer came in this semester and said, the digital book we sold her didn't work. It gets better. She then explained that, and I've seen this myself, she then explained that she wasn't able to log into the website that the book has hosted on. Quote, I can't remember my password, she tells me. I guess I need to make a new account. Now, I've heard this myself. I asked her if she'd clicked on the forgotten password button.
Starting point is 01:46:36 And she stared at me as if I'd just spoken in tongues. She clicks on the reset password link and stares at me again, like I'm the only one who can do it. Just put your email in there so you can reset your password, I instruct. She had absolutely no concept of what I was explaining, and I had to hand hold her through the entire thing. Being a member of Gen Z myself, I'm ashamed of my contemporaries for not even being able to complete a basic task
Starting point is 01:47:03 such as this. However, I placed to blame primarily in the parents, of course. Wow, can we add that to this? Don't know how to reset passwords. What would you call it, though? What do what categories go into? It's not simple enough to, it's like, uh, but the, what I, what I have heard. It's just basically a version of stupid.
Starting point is 01:47:26 I have heard this. Oh, I guess I have to make a new account. I've heard this. It's like not understanding what. passwords do, or what they're for, or how they function? I am really baffled. Yeah. How they function? I mean, for one thing, you know, it's always assumed that different generations have a different
Starting point is 01:47:49 relationship with computers, not technology in general, but just computers. Yeah. Phones, phones, phones. Well, phones, which are computers in your pocket. Um, not in yours. Nope, it's in the drawer and I don't need to be hooked to a computer 24-7. So, uh, so they have a different relationship because there's kids, oh, they were brought up. They never knew an era when there was no internet.
Starting point is 01:48:19 They never knew an era when there was no computers. They never knew this. They never knew that because they were, you know, there was an internet when they were born, all this sort of thing. And so, so the Zeds, which I'm going to now call them, because I like it. Zs. Gen Zed.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Gen Zed. So they're, well, there's just Zeds to me. The Zeds, okay. The Zeds are brought with what circumstance. Everything was there and they were raised with computers with a network with the internet, with networks, with Wi-Fi, with with cell phones, with everything, every single thing that's available out there and they don't know how to use it? I think in this particular case, what's happening is because of the phones, once you sign into Apple or Google, that's it.
Starting point is 01:49:13 You just click, sign up. You don't do a password anymore. Well, you may not know this, but that's how most phones work these days. If you're on Android, you sign into your Google and everything just works. And if it's a new app or a new website, sign in with Google. click. And Apple kind of has the same thing, but not to that extent. But I think everybody has
Starting point is 01:49:38 a Google and just, oh, just sign in with Google. Just sign it with Google. They don't understand what's happening in the background and that all your information is being sucked up by Google. Isn't this taught in high school? Oh, please. Don't they teach kids in high school how to use a computer? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Well, sure they do. How to stick a paperclip in it to make it blow up in class in your Chromebook. That's what they're teaching them. No. No, there's no computer, no knowledge like that. It's called computer literacy. They used to have a class in some schools. You're presuming.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Computer literacy. Have you ever seen today's typical middle school teacher? They're not that littered on computers either. Doesn't work. My computer doesn't work. How many dudes named Ben do we have who have heard this? My password doesn't work. Well, why don't you take the caps lock off?
Starting point is 01:50:31 this happens all the time that's that is nine-tenths of the problem right there caps lock all right i gotta go back to ursula because did we know this or did we not know this we are on the brink if not even at the start of another global health crisis and as a now a global health crisis now we know that of course we're on the brink of a a global health crisis because people aren't vaccinating anymore. But this next piece,
Starting point is 01:51:06 I'm not so sure I knew this. Of another global health crisis. And as a as a medical doctor by training. What? Did we know this? Did we know that she's a medical doctor by training? Why did I not know this? Well, I didn't know it either.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Let me look her up. What's her? Well, hold on a second. Error. Is Ursula von der Leyen a medical doctor by training? Yes, Ursula von der Leyen trained as a medical doctor. She studied at Hanover Medical School, earned her MD in 1987, and even worked as an assistant physician before jumping into politics.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Oh, a nurse assistant physician. Well, she got an MD apparently. Well, I was unaware. No wonder she was in the cahoots with, Burla and the whole pharma industry. I'm not saying all doctors are like this, but wow, I didn't know this. As a medical doctor by training, I'm appalled by the disinformation that threatens global progress on everything from measles to polio.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Ah, vaccines. It's the vaccines. Anti-vaxxers. Stop it now. We can't have that. And this is why today I can announce that the European Union will head a new global health resilience initiative. That's sure to make everyone sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Global health resilience initiative. Oh, please. Well, here is the global health initiative in the United States from Maha, Maha, Maha, RFK Jr. The Make America Healthy Again Commission released, recommendations yesterday to improve children's health. They're calling it, quote, make our children healthy again. Okay. Marketing mistake. Marketing mistake. Mark a make our children healthy again?
Starting point is 01:53:13 What's that? Mocha? Bojica. No, make our children healthy again. Mocha. It's mocha. Make our children. Mocha. No. How about? Was this official or is this something the media dream? Oh, who knows? The commission is planning to start new studies and improve collaboration between health agencies. Some specific things they will work on will be improving air and water quality, limiting microplastics, removing chemical additives from food, and increasing breastfeeding rates. Oh, no!
Starting point is 01:53:48 Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the chair of this commission. A lot of these 128 recommendations are things that I've been dreaming about my whole life. I've been working for in congressional campaigns and presidential campaigns for other candidates. And they get into office and they say, well, we can't, we just can't do it. Kennedy says some of the ideas came from discussions with farmers, teachers, and doctors. The report also focuses on harm from vaccines, electromagnetic radiation, and fluoride. But medical experts have said those ideals are not based in factual information. it's not factual people just go to sleep everything's okay pay no attention to the guy with the gravelly voice
Starting point is 01:54:36 but this one has our attention because this is the next step next step not quite the the final nail in the coffin but it's a good start this is about the executive order president just signed an executive order making some news here when it comes to pharmaceutical ads the president just signed an executive order that's an historic change in the way that pharmaceutical advertising is done on television. And the order basically reinstates or gives us now the opportunity to reinstate the 1997 rules. Prior to 1997, pharmaceutical advertisers were required to put all the side effects on their heads. Many of them didn't advertise because it lengthened the, because of what it did to the length of the advertising. And that the removal of that requirement, in 1997, FDA changed the rule to allow them to report the side effects on a website or on a telephone.
Starting point is 01:55:39 And they only had to report a few of them on television. And that triggered a proliferation of these ads. There's only two countries in the world that allowed to direct consumer advertising by pharmaceutical companies on television. Or one of those countries, New Zealand is the other. It's had a disastrous impact on human health, on people's relationships with their doctors, and really on the entire Gestalt, where Americans are led to believe that there's a pill for every ill, and that you don't have to exercise, you don't have to pay attention to your diet, whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with the drug.
Starting point is 01:56:17 So how much does this change the dynamic for pharmaceutical companies that have been advertising on all kinds of channels? On our channel. They're going to have to do a lot more specifically. They're going to have to report all their side effects. In some cases, I might create an advertisement that's four minutes long. Back prior to 1997, advertising in magazines had page after page after side effects reported. And so we don't know exactly what it will do, what it will do. But we know it's going to be better for health of the health of Americans.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Now, I don't know about you, but I think this is a genius idea because it only benefits cable news if pharmaceutical ads will be longer that shortens the availability on a 24-hour 60-minute time clock, raising the prices to get in with any advertisement. It also informs the public about all the stuff it's going to give you, which, as we know, is not good. I think this is a good move. I think this is just a step in the right direction. But a good move nonetheless. Yeah, it's not a bad move. But I still think what happened to you, they decided this memo came out.
Starting point is 01:57:42 We played this bunch of clips recently. They're going after Kennedy. They did it with the hearings. They're yelling and screaming at him and then walking out, Elizabeth Warren being the best example. and we didn't play too many of those clips but it was pretty ridiculous and it was part of a concerted effort
Starting point is 01:58:00 that was the salvo this was the retort this was the response and I think it's always been in his back pocket he says you go after me you'd make my life miserable I'm going to take away your TV advertising
Starting point is 01:58:14 so I think this is one step but he wants to keep something in his pocket so he still has the complete ban which I think is the long-term goal and what should happen is a complete ban of these ads let's hope so so i think this was just this is a this is political well yes but it's but it keeps the cable news companies in business for a bit longer i think that may have been just to assuage them look you're going to make a lot of money with these extended as no way they're going to do 30 seconds they can't do 30 seconds
Starting point is 01:58:46 it's at least a two-minute ad maybe longer so you're going to make a bunch of money but get ready for you're going to get, this is going to get cut off eventually. They have to know that. Meanwhile, in Sweden, a media conference in Sweden was brought to a dramatic halt after their newly appointed health minister collapsed. Elizabeth Lahn was standing next to the country's prime minister and other officials when she suddenly fell over and hit her head. Thankfully, she did return a short time later with no apparent injuries, saying this is what can happen when you have a blood sugar drop. Yeah. Okay. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:59:23 I don't think so. Did you see the video? No. Oh, man. She did, she did one of those COVID drops. Just dropped. Fell forward. The lectern went forward.
Starting point is 01:59:33 She banged her head on the lectern. Just complete out. Yeah. Blood sugar dropped. Okay. Sure. It had been pretty abrupt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:44 And my, my, my, how things change. Here's the money, honey with the latest. We learned this morning that the FDA is, now saying that it's okay to take ivermectin if you have COVID. I mean, Senator, I remember talking with you repeatedly during COVID about your upset that they were trying to cancel you because you were talking to doctors to try to find out the right ways to treat COVID without having to get too many boosters and COVID shots. My COVID was gone in a day when I took ivermectin and now three years later the fda says oh yeah oh that's fine take ivermectin
Starting point is 02:00:28 what what what what oh money honey please she's just discovering that there's a new sheriff in town what how can this be because it was always like that it was always like that it was always like that but i like you can't have the emergency youth authorization if there's a treatment for the product or for the disease i'm sorry for the disease so you can't get the you you You said it right. The D-U-A. No, you said it right. A treatment for the product.
Starting point is 02:00:56 Yeah, treatment for the product. You said it right the first time. I did. The truth has to come out. And so because of that one aspect alone, not to mention hydroxychloroquine, they had to banish it. No, no, no, no. You can't take this. No good.
Starting point is 02:01:15 And just remember, we found the passport from the terrorists right there on the ground. I mean, this, the world is a scam, people. ears. You're being scammed all the time, except on this show. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the mocha. Say a little to my friend on the other end, the one and the only Mr. John C. DeMorrow and the morning, the United Shad of the Korean Marship, sea boots at the ground. Feet in the air, subs in the water, and the dames and nights out there. And the morning to trolls in the troll room. Now, all right.
Starting point is 02:01:52 What do you think the peak was on today's show? Today is a Thursday? I would say that maybe 1900. 2,834. Yeah, well, that's because of the news. Yes. The news drives the show. That's right.
Starting point is 02:02:10 That's right. And those people have discovered that, yes, it does actually work. You can listen again. Welcome back, everybody. We're glad to have you here. But for how long? How long will we be here? It depends on what happens next week.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Probably nothing, unless they find the shooter. I'll tell you why I say this. Big news in the podcasting industry. Big, big news. Inception Point AI. A new well-funded company. CEO is Janine Wright. I think she was at Wondercraft, or where was she?
Starting point is 02:02:46 She was at some other company. She made some money, punched out. She has made a new company. company, Inception Point AI, and they are betting on flooding the zone with audio content. All AI generated, all AI generated, 5,000 podcasts, 3,000 episodes a week. Well, 5,000 podcasts, you know, the funny thing is she thinks that's a lot. but there are 4.5 million podcasts and over a, what did you say, 100 or 200,000 active podcasts? It's about 400,000 on a monthly basis.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Okay, there's 400,000 on a monthly basis of people that are podcasting and continuing to podcasts, not just one-offs or these casual ones like you run into it with the bigger number, which is the 4.5 million total. Yeah. So this is spit in the bucket. well the thing is they are looking at the at the money and the way the money works all she's going to do is ruin it for everybody correct um she's saying i'm doing this at a cost of one dollar per episode and so if you listen to um let's see we're going wait does that include
Starting point is 02:04:10 uh server time did that include downloads and the whole did does that that include the overhead? You can't do it for $1 an episode. Well, that depends on how popular. See, she's looking at it across. I don't think these podcasts will be, well, what she says here is you can make. Well, yeah, if there's nobody listening and you send out one download, yeah, I guess you could do it for a buck.
Starting point is 02:04:32 Well, she says, we make money at 20 downloads a week. It seems a little. So you may, that, well, listen to, listen to, this is, um, the tape, the, the, the, the, the, the titled this podcast is the garden podcast. And it is hosted by Nigel Thistledown. Have a listen. Nigel Thistledown, everybody. What's going on, Texas?
Starting point is 02:04:57 It's bluff here. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. First, we have to get two ads in a row. Let me see if I can skip them. You can tumbleweeds off your driveway. This is how they're going to make money. Whether you're looking for a couple down.
Starting point is 02:05:08 And I must garden disasters. Here we go. I possess something of intelligence. For get inspired. Go to Sierra Classic. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Good evening, fellow garden survivors and connoisseurs of delightful disasters.
Starting point is 02:05:21 I'm your host, Nigel Fisseldown. And I must once again reveal that I am an artificial intelligence, which proves absolutely invaluable for tonight's celebration of spectacular garden failures. You see, while I may never personally experience the crushing disappointment of watching three years of careful planning collapse in a single afternoon thunderstorm, I possess something rather remarkable. Access to centuries of documented garden disasters. meteorological catastrophes and horticultural mishaps from around the globe.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Welcome to Garden and our final episode, The Great Garden Disasters. What do you think? I think people will listen to it. No, they won't. Oh, yes. The people are already listening. They're like, well, that was a very interesting episode. It says it's final episode. Oh, I don't know. That's just the AI glitch. It's not the final episode. Oh. And there's a knitting podcast.
Starting point is 02:06:18 But a knitting podcast, that's not going to make any sense. Well, here she says. The company is able to produce each episode for $1 or less depending on length and complexity and attach programmatic advertising to it. Do they have a Scrimshaw podcast? A Scrimshaw? What is Scrimshaw? That's where you carve a little, you take a tusk and you start, carving on it, you know, while you're on the boat?
Starting point is 02:06:44 Yeah, like the white whale, uh, what is it, uh, tusk? Is that it? White whale tusk? No, you know what I mean. Scrimshaw. But they're pipes. Don't they have scrimshaw pipes? Oh, yeah, scrimshaw, yeah, it'd be something like that. Uh, anyway, uh, the sound of slop, it's here.
Starting point is 02:07:06 It's here. Well, I have a, you got to play this. I, now that you bring this up. Mm-hmm. There's counter-programming already. Oh, oh, here we go. Do you ever open up social media? See a post and wonder, is this even real?
Starting point is 02:07:20 You're not alone. AI slop. This mass-produced low-quality content is clogging the internet. How about that xylophone in the background is making me want to clog you? You cannot trust that the news report you're seeing on TikTok is real footage. You cannot trust that the reviews you're reading of like the sneakers you want to buy are written by a human. the internet becomes less useful because you can't get information from it
Starting point is 02:07:47 in the same way that you used to be able to. I'm Brittany Luce, and on this episode of It's Been a Minute, I'm getting into how AI Slop is clogging the internet and your brain and what you can do to get away from it. Hit the button below to listen now. Blong, blong, plong, plong, plong, plong, plong, plong, plong, plong, plong, pling, plong.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Who ever thought that was a good idea? Bling, plong, plong, plong, plong. Yeah, that's good. That's dynamite. Yeah, that's NPR for you. That's NPR is another one of those ads. Here's a dilemma, though. Here's the dilemma.
Starting point is 02:08:23 So podcast index, do we ingest these 5,000 AI slop podcasts? Do we ban them? No, you can't ban them. Well, we can. We have all the power. I have all the power. You have the power to ban, but you can't do it. Do we mark them?
Starting point is 02:08:40 Should we mark them? is lame? No? Or slop? No? No. Why would I bother? They're just indexed.
Starting point is 02:08:50 There's just, you know, you yourself, you can't, that would be, you would ruin the whole podcasting 2.0 idea because the idea was freedom, freedom, freedom. I know. Yack, yack, yack. And then this comes out. Oh, we can't have that. No, no more freedom. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:09:05 That's not my position, but there are many in the podcast industrial complex. who are calling for this, who are calling for marking it as AI, who are calling for banning it outright. I'm not saying Dave Jones and I are very clear. As long as you've got an enclosure, you could podcast a PDF. I don't really care.
Starting point is 02:09:28 But this is a real conversation. People who make their money with ads. That's because they're under, I don't care what system you set up. There's an underbelly of people that want things censored. Yes, that's correct. And you yourself with the Charlie Kirk stuff at the beginning of the show where you're upset about it,
Starting point is 02:09:48 you could throw that right back at him. What about Charlie Kirk? You think we should be shot because we're going to let us go in and just they registered it as a podcast. They follow the rules. They have the enclosure. They put it in the 2.0 system. So what are you going to do about it?
Starting point is 02:10:06 Interestingly enough, the same people who want this AI stuff banned. would also love to see Charlie Kirk band. Yeah, of course. It's the same people. It's the underbelly. Same people. Yep. Same people.
Starting point is 02:10:18 The same people who say... Tell them to set up their own podcasting 2.0 index. The same people who say, oh, I hope Homeland Security will let me into the country for the conference. So much of that. So much of that. My own sister did that. She's in New York for a wedding. Willow has an American passport.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Her husband doesn't. And she said, it's been a good trip. We didn't get stopped at the board by border patrol. I'm like, what is this? Has everybody, somehow everyone's afraid that America roused you the minute you come into the country. Your own, does she listen to the show? No.
Starting point is 02:10:58 No, no one, there's not a single person in my family who listens to the show. How about you? How about you? How about you? The show was Don's wife. How about, oh, yeah. But you listened to it once, not knowing she was a spook. And she took, ever should have been a clue.
Starting point is 02:11:17 She had notes on a piece of paper. Well, I think you guys are very patriotic. I think you're right. Freed Zakaria is anti-constitutional and a very interesting program. I had no idea. I'm like, wow, on Meg, thanks. I had no idea. She ran the Russia desk.
Starting point is 02:11:32 What did I know? That's how good she was. Should have been a clue. Hey, you can get these podcasts, this podcast, specifically on a modern podcast app, which is connected to the podcast index, which is important because when someone de-platforms your favorite podcast, and it happens all the time. Episodes specifically, episodes on Spotify get removed all the time. Certainly if you play, you know, we couldn't, we're not on Spotify because we don't, we won't sign their
Starting point is 02:12:06 agreements. You know, you have to sign an agreement so they can put ads in whenever they want. If you play any music in a podcast episode that the algorithms identify as possibly copyrighted music, which let's be honest, is 80% of all of the fair use, end of show mixes, fair use because it's parody and relatable to the news that we are discussing. are all legal. Your episode just gets deleted. No questions asked. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:41 And no recourse. Right. So you don't want that. You want to get a modern podcast. Nobody wants that. But people accept it. Like, oh, well, I guess I got the plus one. Okay.
Starting point is 02:12:51 So you want to get something for podcast apps.com and go look at the podcast index. All the information is there. There's a little apps tab there as well. You can see how it works and what's in there. And it's all on the up and up. And even the AI slop will be in there without any. censorship or deplatforming. And value for value, almost 18 years, almost 1,800 episodes.
Starting point is 02:13:13 We still get to do this every single Thursday and Sunday. It's amazing that you have allowed us to do that. We are so excited every single time to perform this as a public service for you. Time talent. I love my truck and I love what I do. Time talent and treasure is how we've kept it rolling. You hear the boots on the ground. I mean, I didn't just find the report on MIT.
Starting point is 02:13:34 No, we have someone who actually works in the business that, look, I got this report fresh off the press. Here it is for you. That is very valuable. And we also have $40 billion worth of artwork machinery at our disposal. And I could not be happier about it. You put this in a new light for me. And this is great. $40 to $60 billion worth of investment is made so that we can have cover art for every single show.
Starting point is 02:14:02 However, the artwork for episode 1797, which is titled Death Buses, was Dunbay, a professional who knows what he's doing. And this was Sir Shug, aka Fo Diddley, who deconstructed the Austin, the new $1.2 million Austin logo to create a new No Agenda logo. Do you think this was AI deconstructed or did he do this in Photoshop? What do you think? This has to be a Photoshop job. I think so, too. It just didn't feel like AI is not... I can see where you could take
Starting point is 02:14:37 and cut out that Austin thing and move things around a little bit and throw up the no agenda label and Curry DeVorek and easier. There's no way that AI could work that, do that. You'd be prompting all day. What? We're not near... Professor-level intelligence? What?
Starting point is 02:14:58 There's no way. There's no way. it was good and everyone who saw it immediately said oh that's great that's what that's what makes a great piece of art well that's if they all noticed
Starting point is 02:15:11 that would the logo look like they were well I only care about my friends and I don't care about anybody else of course I don't care about anybody else now there were other pieces of art that we looked at by the way
Starting point is 02:15:27 if Sir Shug is listening which he probably is Yes. And he did that using AI in any way. Yeah, which system did you use? Unless he said, AI, give me a yellow background, except for that. Maybe that, maybe that. I would like to know if AI was involved.
Starting point is 02:15:44 And I'm absolutely convinced there's no chance. It's really amazing what AI is doing. And it's really with things that there was already, I mean, is there really a business for graphic designers anymore? I mean, really? Unless you're working for the city of Austin and you just overcharge him and you say, look, here's what I did. Well, I have some friends who are professionals
Starting point is 02:16:11 at the highest level. And how they do? And they've long since given up on the business. That's exactly my point. They've given up on it. No, but they gave up before AI. Why did they give up? Because of all the free clip art that's available
Starting point is 02:16:27 and spot art that is, they're just, libraries and libraries full of it and it was too hard to compete with it. In other words, you could compete with it, but you couldn't compete at the price levels. You couldn't get the top dollar you used to be able to get 30 years ago for your spot art. One of our producers is a songwriter in Nashville, and he sent me, he said, look, this is a song idea I had. And he sent a demo. You know, you know how demos used to sound on a cassette tape, like,
Starting point is 02:16:58 Someone's singing along. Someone's singing along, you know, kind of off key. It's okay. Maybe you got a good singer to come in. It doesn't really sound professional, but it's okay. And then you give that to the label, and the label then takes it and gets an artist to record it. And boom, Bob's your uncle.
Starting point is 02:17:19 You got some money. If it's a big name artist, it's great. This songwriter said, I just threw this into AI myself and listened to this. And it was like completely done. like a Nashville song completely done right like it came out of the studio I mean that it's just over so I mean now you'll always have you'll always have you know something special someone new someone that does something that the AI is not yet done that's always going to happen that will always be the case and people will take note of it and it will be successful but still even then with streaming and Spotify there's no money in it so we're just going to going to have to deal with it, I think. And now they're trying to do that with podcasters.
Starting point is 02:18:04 But can anyone really replicate what we do? Is that really possible? Eventually. I don't think so. Yeah. But probably the whole thing will collapse before that happens. But when I say eventually, I mean eventually, like within 100 years. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Well, we'll go to the moon within 100 years. I'm sure that'll happen. Maybe. Until then, no $40 to $60 billion invested here. No, instead, we depend on your support of the program. This is unique in podcasting. There's not a lot of people who have done this successfully and certainly not for 18 years. And we believe it's because it's an outstanding product.
Starting point is 02:18:47 There's no other way to do value for value. Or as some say, I work for tips. No, no, no, we don't. And people have supported us and we are eternally grateful for the opportunity to do this for you and for the value you return for whatever you receive from the program. And today we have one of those examples of someone who has the means and the love for the show. Seronymous of Dog Patch and Lower Slobovia comes in once again with his mysterious number, not ending in a two, I might add. So I don't know if he had two dollar bills, but today
Starting point is 02:19:21 he always has two dollar bills. You don't have to keep wondering. He had six of them in this Donation. $3,141. Yeah. Which we are so grateful for. And you have a note I have on my thing right here. You have a note. I have a note. In fact, I didn't get a copy of said notes. That's the usually I get a scanned copy of the note. You do. But why not today? Because Jay's in Seattle. Oh, so she didn't have the note. No, I had the note. Okay. All right. You don't have a scanner. You got printers all over the house, no scanner? I have a scanner. Well, you should have scanned it for me. It's easier to write John has note, which is three words on a memo to Jay directly. Okay, as long as they don't have to copy down any information, it's good.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Then, uh, oh, you mean, what, yeah, it's funny because this is the first time onomat asked for about eight clips and jingles. I doubt it. I doubt it. He did. No, he didn't. Okay, here we go. It's too much travel again causing delays in
Starting point is 02:20:31 producership, he writes. This donation includes any cash processing fee. And then he says this, I'm going to read this. But I can assure you that we don't do this and I'm sorry to say. Personally, I recommend not depositing cash but adding it to your pallet of cash
Starting point is 02:20:51 for future use. No. Your palette. We don't have a palette of cash. We put it in the bank. so we can split it at the end of the year, but at the same time, make sure that it's documented so the IRS doesn't say,
Starting point is 02:21:04 hey, these guys are taking cash money and putting it aside. We don't do that. No. A note for travelers on the EU currency restrictions. Oh, this, now here we go. Oh, here we go. Take up to the limit of $10,000
Starting point is 02:21:19 and exchange U.S. dollars cash at different currency exchanges. In time, they may develop a method to capture passport numbers across different networks, but for now, it allows you to have more than the currency limit and helps keep credit cards in your pocket reducing future fraud risk and offers the added benefit of annoying retailer checks that can't, retailer clerks that can't count change. So we're talking about those areas that we've talked about on the show where you can't have more than $300. Yes. He says,
Starting point is 02:21:57 hell with it take your 10 grand across the border and then go to a bunch of you get a lot of three hundred dollars two and three hundred dollars here and there so he says so it's just all right this is a little tip a little tip for the travelers adam yes your view that some of our challenges is the devil at work work has merit but recall that life is a human endeavor and there there's always been profound evil in the world. Amen. That we are in total agreement. Small note.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Last month's shekels were from my visit to the West Bank. Yes, he sent some shekels. He visited the West Bank. That's interesting. Yeah, we're figuring it out. We're getting close. My visitor to the West Bank. You know the place,
Starting point is 02:22:45 uh, uh, I-S-A-A-K-A-G-S-B-E-S-B-U-8. which is a piece be above. And he's talking about Allah or about Muhammad. That's P-Bah. Mm-hmm. Refers to.
Starting point is 02:23:01 No jingles low karma. John, 175 words. He's well within his budget. Well done. And I believe he becomes, although... Am I the only one that complains about long notes? Is that what he's implying? That's the reputation that you have.
Starting point is 02:23:20 Yes. That's your reputation. It doesn't mean that. And it's correct, but reputation is just a fact. You can't deal with it any other way. You got a rep and that's it. So you might as well say it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:23:35 Say what? Well, if you're being accused of the crime, you might as well commit the crime and tell people. It's not a crime to bitch about the people writing notes that are too long for the show. No, exactly. What kind of a crime is that to complain? It's a what? Now you can't complain. It's a crime.
Starting point is 02:23:50 It's a figure of speech. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Thank you, Seronymous. Now, he receives a secretary-genorship, I believe. He never wants anything. Well, but he got on the list.
Starting point is 02:24:07 Okay. Let me just check. Because Jay just puts people on the list. She just wants to send stuff out. Let me see. No, she doesn't. She's like, I can't wait to send, yeah, she put him on the list. And I don't know what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 02:24:19 So I got it the package in the mail. It doesn't have anybody. name on it. I have no idea where it came from. It's from one of those plays, the printing operation, the big one, print for less or whatever it's called. And it's two
Starting point is 02:24:34 envelopes and each one of them had a very elaborate set of small no agenda stickers. Oh, that's cool. Little silver stickers. They're about very small like half inch brown stickers with a logo
Starting point is 02:24:50 on them and no agenda. And I got two sheets in two different envelopes within the package. I would like to know who sent those to me and what they want us to use them for. Are they handsome stickers? Yeah, they're cute. It's pretty because it's a silver little silver sticker.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Oh, wow. I'll take a couple and put them on some trucks out here. No, it's too small. Oh, okay. We're talking a little bitty things. They're like on a sheet of paper at the bottom maybe or it's a stamp for the back of an envelope there. No, this wouldn't
Starting point is 02:25:22 do any good on a truck? On your laptop cover? Can we put it on the laptop? No, it's too small for that. It's their small little stamp size stickers. Sir Scovey is up next from Charlotte, North Carolina, and he comes in with 999, 999. Matching donations alert in the morning to Alexander Wenta, Sir Sam, and Charlotte in San Francisco for their donations of 33.33 to show 1797. Thank you for your courage. All six donations have been matched. But wait, there's more. A seventh was matched because Charlotte in San Francisco not only mentioned the matching
Starting point is 02:26:00 donation offer, but did so on a handwritten note. That's worthy of a match to the best podcast in the universe. Goat karma for the seven producers who made the matching donations possible. Love and Light from Sir Scovey in Charlotte, North Carolina. And this concludes the matching donations. And we thank you all very much, producers who match. And of course, Sir Scovey, thank you for your. courage.
Starting point is 02:26:23 You've got. Harma. I was nice of him to give that last extra one out. That's very, that's very kind. Yes. Sir, your honest mechanic. And he is in Eastley,
Starting point is 02:26:39 South Carolina. Easley, yep. Easily, easily, easily. Easily there. It's also known as Kevin Fusco. 52636. It's, this is sir your honest mechanic i'm back probably a month back in the episode or i'm back
Starting point is 02:27:00 and this is probably a month back in episodes so you're you've probably already spelled it right that time already talked about this i okay one of my employees came to me and said our insurance sucks the doctor prescribed my wife zepp bound for her sleep no no he said the fdi i just recently approved it i had a great laugh when he said that and i thought it's only a matter of time before uh these are good for erectile dysfunction like adam keeps predicting it's coming i thought it already happened well thank you do no jingles just karma for everyone thank you kevin yes well it it kind of said it but they haven't actually actually advertise it as erectile dysfunction.
Starting point is 02:27:55 So not quite, but we're getting close. You've got karma. Matt Stevens, Nahunta, Nahunta. I'm probably mispronouncing that in Georgia. Nahunta. 350, nahunta. I have no idea. That's 333 plus 33 fees.
Starting point is 02:28:14 Plus fees. Thank you both for your work in ceremony of Charlie Kirk. Please knight me, Sir Matthew of the lower. Oh, in memory. In memory of Charlie Kirk, please knight me, Sir Matthew of the lower coastal plain, Matt Stevens, in Nahunta, Georgia. So he'll be the Sir Matthew of the lower coastal plains today. And thank you. Matt, appreciate it. You can get the next one after I read Sir Joseph's note.
Starting point is 02:28:42 And he's in Ewing, New Jersey. There's the other note that came in. Well, there's two notes here, two notes in a row. and I don't have, I only have one note, so I don't know what note you're about to read. Oh, wait, this is, no, this is Sir Joseph. I have the note, the sheet from, I don't know where that other note is. I have, no, yeah, I think that's the one attached is the PDF. I have, Beth, Beth Elliott or Chad Elliott, what do I have?
Starting point is 02:29:08 I have Beth Elliott. That's the one I have. So you have Sir Joe, no, this, but there's Sir Joseph before that. Yeah, I have Sir Joseph in my, right in my poem. Well, why don't I just read this one then, and you can do that, which is what you originally suggested. Because then we're skipping Sir Lucas. Sir Luca. Sir Luca.
Starting point is 02:29:23 Sir Luca. Why don't you read Sir Luca and then we'll go from there. From Switzerland. There are two kinds of people in the world, those who use the metric system and those who still use body parts and kitchen utensils as units of measurement. And fake the moon landings. This would be typical of a Swiss guy. And they fake the moon landings.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Please, I would appreciate if you gave a cancer karma, an F cancer karma, I'm sure, for my father who is fighting a prostate cancer comeback with ivermectin, a dog dewormer, and supplements. Yes, we're familiar with this, and very good results I've heard. Please keep us informed. In October, we will know if it worked. Lastly, happy 51th birthday to me on September 11th. Thank you for your attention to this matter, says Sir Luca. You've got karma. So this is Sir Joseph of Ewing, New Jersey. He came with 333, and he was plugging something on his check, but I don't have the check here.
Starting point is 02:30:29 But he says, and he also has a funny letterhead of gumbo boombas. Anyway, he's a character of Sir Joseph. He's the Lord of the Central Jersey Swamp. If someone told me that I would someday donate $1,000 to a podcast, I would have told them that they needed their head examined. Well, I need my head examined because this is the third donation at 333.3.34 puts me into the knighthood category. I couldn't possibly ask you to kick in the penny considering, oh, he added it, how much bitching John does about the
Starting point is 02:31:12 about the lacklustre donations of late. You know, I complain a lot. Please knight me, Sir Joseph Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps. And if you would, if you'd be so kind to provide, by the way, this is a four point type. Mm-hmm. So I'm struggling. If you provide some gumbo parmesan and al-Bata,
Starting point is 02:31:38 al-Bata beer. See, this is exactly why you need to scan the notes. Because now I have to go into the system, but I've got to go into the show notes. I've got to say, can you repeat that again? Yeah. What is it? Yeah. Well, I would have scanned the note if I'd known this was in there, but I didn't read the note.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Oh. Please mention my band, the gumbo gumboos, who can be found on my digital platform, and I will be able to deduct the offering as an advertising expense on my taxes. Okay. You know, it's between you and the IRS, but it sounds like an add to me for the gum. I said it already twice. Gumbo gumbo, gumbas, that's three. P.S., I recently celebrated my 68, ah, I bet she's not on the birthday list.
Starting point is 02:32:24 No, another thing I get to add. Okay, well, gee, I'm sorry you're going to have to do some work. I'm struggling trying to read this note. My 68 revolution, that was my fault because normally when I send these to Jay, when she's floating around someplace else, I will put the birthday call out on this. It would have been on the thing and it would have been taken care of, but that was my fault.
Starting point is 02:32:47 Sir Joseph, and he turned 68, when? I'm looking. He doesn't say. And can you, again, give me what he wants for the roundtable? Because you still didn't tell me. Yeah, he wants for the roundtable. He wants gumbo parmesan,
Starting point is 02:33:05 which I have no idea what that is. And Elata, Elata, Al-I-T-A-L-I-T-A-B-I-T-A-B-I-T-A-B-I-T-A. El-Batia, Al-B-I-T-A? Yeah, that's what it says. A-L-B-I-T-A. Al-Bita. Well, let me look close. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:31 Okay. That's not El-Bata, it's Al-Bita. well again it's at four point type so okay when you get in your 70s even with the cataract operation you can't read four point type i recently celebrated my six day of revolution he goes on about that thank you for your attention to this matter soon to be joseph lord of the central jersey swamps all right we've got it all uh then we have beth elliott who says uh in the morning john And I'm a written note. And this I also have not just a note, but I have a, for some reason, a scan of the check.
Starting point is 02:34:11 It's a pretty check. Assuming this arrives in time, can you please read this on Thursday, September 11th show? Switcheroo for my smoking hot hubby of 31 years, Chad, who hit me in the mouth during COVID. Thank you for that. And congrats. You are no longer a douchebe. You've been de-duced. Happy anniversary, sexy ass, she says.
Starting point is 02:34:33 For jingles, may I have. they're eating the dogs. I got hairy legs and little girl. Yay. Thank you gentlemen for your courage. And in all uppercase, for your attention to this matter. Yours truly, Beth. P.S. Chad says, I listen to y'all too much. They're eating the dogs. I got hairy legs. Yay! All right. Now we have circale lavender blossoms, our buddy in Northville, Michigan, 2772. Good to hear. And he says, even though this is not true, I think it's about time.
Starting point is 02:35:06 I show my appreciation for all you do. He does all it constantly. Thank you. Happy birthday, Adam, which is a little late, but there it is. And R-I-P-C-K, Sir Cal. Sir Cal, you've been around for a long time and have supported us a lot. So thank you very much. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:24 Hey, Eli, the coffee guy is about to round it out. We have a couple more. He's from Bensonville, Illinois. 209-11. There it is. He's always with the date, 9-11. Normally, I would try to write something witty along with a plug for gigawatt coffee, but I was in the middle of drafting my donation dote when I received a text that Charlie Kirk had been shot.
Starting point is 02:35:42 Although I didn't listen to him much, I just wanted to express my sorrow. Any political killing tears at the fabric of our nation. I mourn the death of Kirk. I also mourn the last 25 years since the fateful morning in September that sent planes crashing into buildings. I miss the world before that future generations will never know. I'm concerned of what they shall inherit. I'm sure this event and the following media circus will help usher in new security measures
Starting point is 02:36:07 and even greater loss of freedoms. Thank you for pointing out the BS, says Eli the coffee guy. Lydia Lupakins up, and she's in Lakewood, Colorado, $200, and wants jobs, Carmen, she says, worried about AI, a resume that gets results, tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring. Go to ImageMakersink.com. That's ImageMakers, Inc. with a K. and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of resumes.
Starting point is 02:36:36 And then I want to continue with the anonymous. She's winning resumes and she needs a job. What did I say? You just actually, you phoned it in. I probably did phone it in. You should have read it. Jobs karma, worried about AI for a resume that gets results, tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring. Go to ImageMakersink.com. That's ImageMakers, Inc. with a K, and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs
Starting point is 02:37:01 and Writer of Winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought. Oh, no. Hey, at least we're honest. So will you do this that you're so damn good? Can you do the voiceovers for Mimi's ads as she runs for City Council in Port Angeles?
Starting point is 02:37:22 Oh, I'd be delighted to. I told her exactly that. I said, I said, I don't even have to ask him. Have you asked him? asked him. I said, no, I haven't asked him. He'll just do it. He's an egomaniac. He's glad to do it. Oh, what? Hold on. I just, I, Mimi, I'm sorry. I was going to do it until John called me an egomaniac. I'm no longer doing it. Nope, you can blame John. Nope, that's it. I'm done. Nope, sorry. It's all over. So anonymous. And by the way, and apparently she and one of our
Starting point is 02:37:54 producers did a meetup promo for the for the meetup in Oakland no no that's that they're no they're doing a meetup in port angeles oh port angeles port angeles but they're doing a meetup so they send me a meetup promo with mimi but they send me an audacity file like I can't open this I mean I could oh they didn't send an audacity yes yes they oh that's embarrassing the audacity project file. And I'm like, So she says to me, here we go.
Starting point is 02:38:30 Here we go. Yeah, we decided to, I forget the guy's name. Now, does your wife talk like that? I agreed to make her voice talking like this. Which is hard for me to do so I don't do it. But she said that they had, they've got the
Starting point is 02:38:49 that device you have, the roadcaster. And they recorded it, and they said, how do we get it off of here? And they couldn't figure out how to get it. I said, why don't you just take the memory out? We finally worked it out. Send me the memory card. So they finally worked it out.
Starting point is 02:39:06 They didn't do the memory card. The easiest thing is take the memory card sticking the computer, boom, you're done. Yeah. But so they took it. And I guess they put it in audacity and then they sent you the audacity. They went to say with audacity. If you go to save project, it saves it as this crazy crazy. format that is not audio, it's just
Starting point is 02:39:26 their format. Instead of exporting it, they didn't know to export it. Yes. Is this the podcast studio they're running up there? Yeah. Well, they'll get it down. Well, and to be honest, I got it and I have audacity, but then it opened
Starting point is 02:39:40 up, and first of all, audacity, which is now a commercial company, gives you all kinds of great offers. And then it says, yeah, this is no longer compatible with this version of audacity. It was close to Showtime. Like, okay, I'm sorry, you've got to send me an MP3. and so it's not going to be when is the when is the meetup it's next set it's this coming
Starting point is 02:39:58 saturday oh crap so we can't even play their their jingle they're they're well that they they're you know you have to go to it's the source they screwed it up and i said they didn't export the file instead they sent you that and audacity being what it is because i've noticed this too it's horrible it's changed so much over the last couple of iterations it's because it became a commercial company all of a sudden from open source to someone buying it's it somehow. Yeah, yeah, I know. Why doesn't that happen to podcast index for a couple million? We can go from open source to be bought. We got no problem. You can be bought. I know, I know your style. Yeah, that's good. Okay, so, okay, they're having, they're having the meetup
Starting point is 02:40:40 coincident with the Oakland meetup, which I'll be at. And, but it'll be listed in the, Port Angeles is having a meetup on Saturday. And it's going to, and Jay will be up there. Oh, nice. that's cool. And Brennan. So they'll have be up there. They would normally get the Oakland. Brennan, the, the, the, the, the, the, the deadbeat with no job, that guy? He still gets checks. So he, uh, he'll be there with, uh, Jay and they'll have a, I don't know where they're doing it, but it's listed. And I'll be at the Oakland yet, which is going to be at the pizza place in Oakland again, Violettas. So the producers are saying, post the file to
Starting point is 02:41:20 the chat and we'll, we'll, we'll take care of it for it. you and I'm like they will yeah but it's I think it's it's like raw audio like 15 gigs or something for for these things you know what I mean it sends something weird send something weird out could be wrong I'm gonna see if you can post it anyway last donation is from anonymous I wanted to mention this came is his check is $200 the person was adamant about not mentioning who it is but did say that she now just discovered, just discovered you can send in a check
Starting point is 02:41:58 and couldn't do anything. You didn't want to do anything else. And it realized that this is great. I can send in money now because I didn't realize how easy it is to send in a check. Oh, it's so easy. It's so easy. It's so easy.
Starting point is 02:42:12 To box 339 El Cerrito, California, 94530. It's just beyond me while everybody doesn't send in a check. I could cost 15 cents to process. Yeah, I can't post it to the chat because it's 31 megs. I can only upload 15 megs. I'm sorry, people. Sorry. All right.
Starting point is 02:42:34 Wow. Yeah. There we go. Okay. Was that it? Was that the last anonymous? We're done. All right.
Starting point is 02:42:42 We're out of here. Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 17. 98. Two more to go until the big 1800. Will they survive 18 years? The best podcast in the universe. That's up to you if you want us to continue with this open source, open funding, completely transparent system we have put up, where we thank everybody who supports us $50 and above. And of course, these executive and associate executive producers, they received these credits, which are official show business credits. And they received them because they came in with $200 or $300. but any amount matters to us. Anything that you want to send back
Starting point is 02:43:19 as value is value for value for us. And we'll be thanking $50 and above in our second segment. Thanks again. Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. I just had an idea.
Starting point is 02:43:36 Water. Shut up. I just had an idea. Yeah, let me see. I can probably post this. You know, I got an idea here. I think I can get this on a server and get them to it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:53 I got everything, baby. Let me see if this works. You're going to post it somewhere and have them pick it up? Yep. Yep, here it is. It's an A-U-P-3 file. A-U-P-3, because I don't even know what that. I've never even seen that.
Starting point is 02:44:09 All the files I have that are backed up like that are A-U-Ps. Well, this says A-U-P-3. So they exported it as something special. Good luck, boys. Yeah, well, the chat has it, so the trolls will go to work. I mean, it's really just, I ran out of time. First day, everyone always assumes, well, don't you have a Google account connecta to automatecurry.com?
Starting point is 02:44:34 Like, no, no, I have a Google account, which is not Ottoman curry.com. And so I always have to request access, which usually, you know, One hour later, people go like, oh, okay, here you go. Here's your access. Oh, I'm sorry. He got to access. And then they sent it back and it was like, okay. Anyway, the trolls are going to take care of it.
Starting point is 02:44:58 We might get it done when we need to get it done, which is later in the show. The trolls are going to do it. The trolls are going to do it. We'll see. There's a lot of trolls today and they're bored. We have great trolls. Now, speaking of one of the best trolls in the universe, wow, this came in this morning on the transom. Bye, by Mandelson.
Starting point is 02:45:17 Breaking news this hour. Let's go live to Westminster. Our political correspondence, Serena Barka Singer, Serena, we're hearing in the last few moments that Peter Mandelson has been asked to withdraw as ambassador by the Prime Minister. Yes, exactly. Withdraw from being the ambassador, or essentially he's been sacked by the Prime Minister. And you heard from the Foreign Minister there, Stephen Doughty, who was drawn out by the Conservatives' urgent questions today to make that announcement. It's not a surprise. We were talking this morning about how long could
Starting point is 02:45:49 Peter Mandelson sustain this drip feed of information, these very embarrassing photos, that one of him in a bathrobe at one of Jeffrey Epstein's residences. But it seems to be these emails that are the most damning. And the Foreign Office has said, these are the new information that emerged. This sacking has gone down, whether he was told personally, whether he was summoned in, but it was clearly becoming untenable that Peter Mandelson could sustain his position. And remember, the government has a commitment to women and girls and halving violence against women and girls. It was optically not looking very good, but it seems like those emails were the most damning things. And that's why the Prime Minister has said today, via
Starting point is 02:46:40 his foreign minister that the U.S. ambassador now has been sacked. So these emails, as I was reading through them, it's like, haven't we seen these? It's been around for a long time. This whole thing is blowed up again. And they had the latest Trump note to his birthday party or something. Oh, yes. Which I thought was actually pretty funny. Well, the thing that is poorly reported.
Starting point is 02:47:10 it on is it looks like a script, a script with a voiceover, and it literally looks like a side from a script. And no one ever comments on that. I'm not sure what script was it from, was it from a TV show, a reality show, was it from a movie? Why is it a script? At the top, it has voice, voice over. If you really look at it, it's very confusing. And of course we know it's a Democrat hoax, everybody. This is the birthday message allegedly crafted by Donald Trump for Jeffrey Epstein in 2003. We have certain things in common, it says, inside a drawing of a naked female form. May every day be another wonderful secret.
Starting point is 02:47:53 It adds above what appears to be Trump's signature. You know, actually, that drawing, it looks like, remember as kids, we would draw that and then we'd cover up a part of it. And people like, oh, man, I can't believe you drew that. and you take your hands off and it was actually a horse's head. Do you remember that joke? Remember that joke we used to play? No, that was a joke that I've never heard of. Looks a bit like that.
Starting point is 02:48:15 Signature. I don't even know what they're talking about. Now, somebody could have written a letter and used my name, but that's happened a lot. I'm not a drawing person. I don't do drawings of women. That I can tell you. Despite White House denials, the signature appears to match Trump's on other letters sent during the same time period. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:48:33 The president did not write this letter. He did not sign this letter. The drawing was contained in a birthday book prepared for Epstein's 50th birthday before he was convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor. The book also included a message, allegedly from former U.S. President Bill Clinton, and this photo that appears to be a joke about Epstein selling a woman to Trump for $22,000. This is a Democrat hoax that never ends. The material was obtained by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, along with other records from Epstein's. state. Part of a broader push for the release of the full Epstein files after the Trump administration backtracked on a promise to make them public. And if Republicans don't want to engage in a cover
Starting point is 02:49:17 of pedophilia in this pedophilia ring, they should go sign this discharge petition. Trump and his allies keep trying to change the channel. At one point, even claiming Trump was secretly working against his longtime friend. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down. I can affirm that is not true. The shifting explanations and increasingly damning evidence have done little to quell the questions about Trump's involvement with the notorious sex offender, a story that seems unlikely to go away anytime soon. Well, so that's the rundown. You have the latest. The check is pretty funny. Somehow I think I'd seen that. Am I just imagining that we've seen all these things before? Well, I know you haven't seen the Clinton cartoon. Oh, no, that's new.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Yeah. Well, I don't remember this, this drawing being that, but I've, maybe I'm, it's, maybe there's a couple of them. No, I remember the check, the picture with the check. I remember that somehow. Anyway, no, I don't remember that. An unlikely response from an unlikely, quote unquote, ally, the Senator John Federman was asked about this. Senator, on the findings from the House Oversight Committee on this alleged birthday book, this note that the president allegedly wrote to Jeffrey Epstein for his birthday. Do you have any comment on that and the drawing that goes with that? Again, I don't think the Epstein thing is the big thing.
Starting point is 02:50:44 I don't know. Release it. I don't know. But it's strange. I mean, the Democrats, we've had that for four years. We didn't release that. I don't know why we didn't do that. So, for it now, release it.
Starting point is 02:50:54 But I don't think that's going to, you know, it's this idea that suddenly that's going to be the one thing that's going to, you know, take out Trump. You know, I don't believe that that what that is. he'll still be here I don't think it's just a distraction honestly but go ahead and release whatever that is but it's not important Fetterman
Starting point is 02:51:14 he's all in with the president on this yeah it's just the distraction it's quite the distraction yeah I don't know why well again if I go back to my own thesis it's meant to be a distraction it's meant to be well they forced me to do it
Starting point is 02:51:30 and here it is and then some people get burned and Trump can be again blameless. I said not to do it. I'm sorry boys that this happened to you, but this is nothing like I had any control over it. There's the Democrats. It's them. Well, so Mandelson got burned and this is just
Starting point is 02:51:46 what, a week before President Trump goes to the UK for a state visit. That's rather embarrassing. Yeah, I'd say. But Mandelson, do you see the pictures? He's in his bathrobe and he's like, hey, my best. My goodness. Men are so
Starting point is 02:52:04 Disgusting For getting burned like this Yeah There's always a sex scandal there Yeah What was that dude's name? No, I don't I can almost come up
Starting point is 02:52:14 I know I know who would know It's amazing how you forget this guy The necrophiliac Remember that guy? Ugh Jim Jim Jim will fix it
Starting point is 02:52:26 I don't remember that Yeah yeah No of course you do The guy with a hat Ask Irvine there, what she thinks. Irvine. Let's ask Irvine. Hey, Irvine, who was the famous British pedophile that got arrested?
Starting point is 02:52:45 They never got arrested, but then eventually die. Jim will fix it, dude. That'd be Jimmy Saville. Oh, yeah, Jimmy Saville, sure. Jimmy Saville. There you go. That was, duh. How would a creep that guy was.
Starting point is 02:53:00 All happened during. the course of this show, I might add. And boy, they covered that up, didn't they? Whoa. Yeah, the entire BBC was the BBC. Didn't they kill the journalist over that? The woman who got killed outside her house? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:53:18 Ask the robot. No, I'm not going to ask the robot everything. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. Adam and the robot. There's your title. Adam and the robot. Hey, stick with me, baby.
Starting point is 02:53:31 Adam and the robot. It's a possible exit strategy. Think of it. I can have twice the money. Adam and the robot for 20 bucks a month. You have the money because the robot won't have the robot won't complain enough. I'll teach the robot to complain. It'll cost me 20 bucks a month. Adam and the robot. Hey, everybody. It's Adam and the robot. Hey, robot. How you doing? Robot say hello. Adam and the robot, everybody. Woo-hoo! In the morning. Yep. Yeah, it's going to happen. I'm excited. Well, talking about whining, I had to get this clip, by the way. This is the, this is a BBC clip about the Voice of America complaining. Okay. The Trump administration. I'm sorry. Yeah, I got it. The Trump administration is moving to fire most remaining journalists at the federally funded broadcaster voice of America. The move is likely to be challenged in the courts. More than 500 termination notices have been sent out, including one to Patsy Wikaswara, who until now was the Voice of America White House.
Starting point is 02:54:28 Bureau Chief. I think it's quite clear that press freedom in the United States is under attack, not just what's happening with us, with Voice of America, but also our colleagues, public broadcasters, such as public radio and PR, and then PBS, as well as private stations, they're also under attack from the White House. And if you just look at any White House briefing, you see a lot of very right-wing influencers. Oh, yeah. BBC NEAS.
Starting point is 02:54:55 Of course. Oh, there's right-winger there's there. It's all right wingers on those podcasters in the White House. What are we going to do? This is no good. Can't have the podcast. We never get invited to something cool. Invite us to the White House.
Starting point is 02:55:13 No, it's going to invite us to anything. When you didn't get invited, because I still think we're a fairly neutral show about politics. But when you, but you did come out for Trump in 2015, 2016. Well, you came out for Trump. You said, I want Trump. That's not what I... No, you lie. No, let me finish.
Starting point is 02:55:34 You thought Trump would be the... You were back in Trump. You predicted he was going to win. You lie. I said, this guy can go all the way. And you said, no, man, it's Marco Rubio. That's how that went down. You made a point of endorsing Trump
Starting point is 02:55:54 and you never got invited to the white... The inauguration. That's the way I see, remember it. I endorsed him. Okay. All right. And you never got invited. No, because I never endorsed him if I had said, yeah, go, man.
Starting point is 02:56:07 Go, go, go, go. People, somebody go dig this up. Do some research. Yeah, please do. Send it to me. I'll gladly play it. I found it very annoying that you didn't get invited to the inauguration. Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 02:56:18 Joe Rogan went. He represented all, all podcasts. He went to, he didn't go to the inauguration in 2016. No, that's right. He went to the second one. You're right. He hated, he was not a tough fan. He was a, yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:35 He was a Bernie fan. He was a Bernie fan. Right. He was a Bernie boy. You and Rogan, Bernie and Marco. Uh-huh. Sure. Way to go.
Starting point is 02:56:44 Marco's got a better chance to still making it. Way to go, eight ball. Okay. Magic eight ball. Magic eight. Here, here's a funny, I have a wow clip, one of these clips that is not getting much coverage. This is just too funny.
Starting point is 02:57:00 The South Africa court has sentenced seven Chinese nationals to prison. They were convicted of trafficking dozens of Africans and forcing them to work in a factory. And today's David Lamb report. A court in Johannesburg, South Africa has sentenced seven Chinese
Starting point is 02:57:16 nationals to 20 years in prison. They were convicted of trafficking 91 individuals from Malawi, and forcing them to work at a cotton fabric factory in South Africa. The group was convicted in February for crimes committed from 2017 to 2019. Police raided the factory and arrested the defendants in November 2019. Authorities said they found the Malawian victims confined in inhumane conditions with armed guards controlling their movements.
Starting point is 02:57:49 The factory had a high wall and razor fence. But I want to say to our people as well, they must know that We are taking these issues very serious. Government is working every day towards rooting out all these issues. Prosecutors said the victims were forced to work 11-hour shifts seven days a week without safety equipment.
Starting point is 02:58:09 The South African Department of Labor expressed support for the sentence and urged greater collaboration among government agencies to help end human trafficking. Slavery. Yeah. Yeah. In Africa. No.
Starting point is 02:58:25 gambling? Of course. Well, I thought that was a interesting story. No one's going to, you know, by the way, we have rapid developments. Rapid. Oh, you're looking at the quad box. The quad screen says rapid developments. It looks like this, the guy who they have been posting the picture all morning,
Starting point is 02:58:47 like he was one of those, one of those people that Charlie, what's the term you? used with a P. He prolemicists. He prolemicized that guy. You know, because he always made people look foolish. Yeah. Well, he looks like one of those guys.
Starting point is 02:59:13 Could be. Yeah. I mean, you know, I could imagine somebody getting irked and being made a fool of. But I always thought it was, there were the people that were some of the dumb stuff people came up with with him is just ridiculous he was easy it was easy pickings well what do you mean so you think they caught the guy i don't think so uh soon new trump comments on charlie kirk i don't know no that's nothing but by the way it's
Starting point is 02:59:43 the same people that you love bringing on ticot to the show it's the same people no different people Okay. Same category, same level, same caliber. Well, I don't, I don't have anybody on the show. I don't have one TikTok clip on this show. Well, you have an EBT complainer woman. Oh, wait a second. Here we go. Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 03:00:09 Oh, good Lord. Okay, we'll play that. I had to cancel my vacation with my family because where we were going to go and vacation at, they have already stopped certain things of being able to be purchased with EBT. Well, because of this, that would mean I would
Starting point is 03:00:28 have to buy the majority of my family's food out of pocket. And that would dig into my money I have for fun things. So, I had no other choice but to cancel the trip. My family is so sad about this
Starting point is 03:00:44 and so am I. I don't understand why people want to control. what other people buy with their EBT. Like, how is it your business what I buy with my EBT? And there it is. There's the problem in America in a nutshell. Right there. Right there.
Starting point is 03:01:00 I can't use my EBT on vacation for whatever I want to buy. Isn't that emergency benefits? Isn't that what that is? Emergency? Is that it? It's a food stamps program. Yes. For people who are in dire straits and...
Starting point is 03:01:14 Who need to eat food? Who need food. Yes. But there are. it is enough said I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that
Starting point is 03:01:26 oh yeah that'd be fab now the people who support the no agenda in the morning now the people who support the no agenda show of course they're very very different they understand how we all have to work together and we would like to thank the people who've supported us
Starting point is 03:01:44 with their value for value $50 and above John has the list I do have the list. It starts with our regular Dame Rita, who came out with 109-11. She's in Sparks, Nevada. She's probably a Viscountess, we believe. Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 105-35. Kate in Boise, $100. And she says, I love you guys. I love you, too. Thank you, Kate. Love you too. Scott Van Gelder in Barnstable, Massachusetts Nuts, 100. Love every episode. Kevin McLaughlin comes in with 808. He's the Archduca Luna, lover of America, lover of melons.
Starting point is 03:02:28 And that's the boob donation, along with Anonymous, in Mount Airy, Maryland. He came in with 808. Sir Doherty and Stephen City, Virginia, 68, 68. And that's a happy birthday call out to Sir Nick somebody. Josh Buford in Midlothian, Virginia, 6430. George Sousa in Turlock, California, 61. Michael Natrin in Newark, Delaware, 61. Well, these are your birthday.
Starting point is 03:03:02 This is the last three birthday callouts. Yes, I know. It's beautiful. Thank you all so much. And there's Troy Sprague, who comes in from Lapeer, Michigan, with a 61, Delaware, happy birthday, which was sent to Jay and I put happy birthday. What are you laughing about?
Starting point is 03:03:22 Well, it's happy birthday to you, but because I guess looking back on it, I think she thought it was him wishing himself happy birthday, so he's probably on the birthday list. Well, he's going to be congratulated regardless. That's pretty funny. Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 606 small boobs, along with Les Torkowski and Kingman, Arizona.
Starting point is 03:03:49 Sam Williams, he's 6.06 also. Sam Williams in Davenport, Iowa, 55. He's sending me and you a chavette with some real cool shaving shoope. Oh, oh, that's cool. Women tell me it smells great. Huh. Okay.
Starting point is 03:04:15 Chavette. I don't know what a Chavette is even. Look it up. Okay. Kevin Ritchie, 5370. Oh, this is a nighting that's coming up. Yes, I will read it. You might as well read it.
Starting point is 03:04:27 In the morning, John and Adam, with this $53.77 donation, I'm celebrating both my birthday and September 11th, a show day, and the completion of my knighthood. Please dub me, sir, 11 of 9. at the roundtable where I'll just need a Coke slurpy. For the longest time, I thought I was the only one noticing the bias around us every day until 2016 when I found you too. Thank you for keeping me sane and entertained. Keep up the good work and please remember, everyone's got an agenda.
Starting point is 03:04:58 Kevin Ritchie, how right you are, brother. Uh, Angela Kettle Hut in Rock Hill, South Carolina, 537, there's a birthday to Brian coming up beyond the list. Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado, 5272. These are actually $52 donors that are jacked it up a little bit. bent uh what bent a heft edlich benta held edlich and he's in ben he's in sch he's in switzerland she she she she bent oh she's a she's a she yeah this is a please break for dame dain my mother has a cancer growth on her liver and would very much like to survive the operation and have full recovery she needs an f cancer we're going to give her that two hundred fifty two seventy two seventy two donation for the swiss these are a second swiss person today is swiss are in demand let me do that f cancer for her right now you've got karma of course we break for dames of course we do Eric Jairau you think Jiraira Jira Jarao Jirao in Crestview Florida 52 72 Sean Veneman veneman veneman I think in Genoa Illinois
Starting point is 03:06:25 which they probably pronounce a Genoa, I'm guessing, 5272, but they do. Stephen Trockets or Trackles in Sust. Deutschland. Ah, 5112. My family freaked out
Starting point is 03:06:43 over drones entering Poland. Wow. Sister taking fast flight out. Huh. Interesting. Hmm. a bad idea oh bad idea supply is back bad idea look him up on the internet 50 oh 5 50 50 Douglas monk and now we get the 50 dollar donors is a very short list today actually
Starting point is 03:07:06 Douglas monk and concrington conkrington Pennsylvania Roderick brown and mermaid mermaid Prince Edward Island Canada No, no. René Kinnig in Ultresht. Knieka. Knieka. Knieka.
Starting point is 03:07:28 Knieka. No. Stephen Shumake in Zinia, Ohio. And last on the list is Tom. Tim, Tim, not Tom, Tim, Del Vecchio, in Blandon, Pennsylvania. I want to thank these people for making show. We're two shows away from show 1800. We're getting very, very close.
Starting point is 03:07:47 And remember, how many podcasts have gone? that long? Well, there's more who have done more episodes, like Omega Man. I think he has- Yeah, well, you do a daily, you can get it up there quick. I think Omega Man has literally done over 5,000 episodes. Omega Man, who he donates to the show? Omega Man is out of his mind. He's done 5,000 episodes. I don't know if he's been around as long as week. How long does he do a show for? How long is the show run? Oh, three minutes. I think they're pretty long, actually. Thank you very much of these donors, $50 and above. And again, thank you to our executive and associate
Starting point is 03:08:22 executive producers for episode 1798. Two more to go until 1800. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for participating in the grand experiment known as Value for Value. No agenda donations.com. Sir Luca celebrates today, as does Kevin Richie. Sir Joseph turned 68. Sir Doherty wishes, sir, not Jake, a very happy one for the 13th.
Starting point is 03:08:47 Angela Kettlehut. Happy birthday to her husband, Brian Kettlehut, who apparently sometimes she annoys him, I guess, but he loves her anyway. And Troy Sarag, no birthday for you, but I'll take it anyway. Happy birthday from everybody in the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah. And now it is time once again to welcome brand new Secretary Generals to the No Agenda Show. All hail to the Secretary Generals, because they are the ones. who need hailing, all hail to the Secretary Generals on the No Agenda Show. Whether he wants it or not, Sir Anonymous of Dog Patch and Lois Lobovia
Starting point is 03:09:30 becomes a Secretary General today as well as Sir Scovey. Thank you again for all of your matching donations. And, sir, your Honest Mechanic also joins those exclusive ranks of No Agenda, Secretary Generals. Congratulations. All hail to you. the secretary generals because they are the ones who need hailing all hail to the secretary generals on the no agenda show and i don't can they go to no agenda rings dot com yet to see their fine secretary general
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Starting point is 03:10:32 So can we. Matt Stevens, Kevin Ritchie, hop on up here out of the podium. Both of you have become knights of the know-age in a roundtable. Thanks to your support of the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more. And I am proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Matthew of the Lower Coastal Plage. and sir 11 of 9 for you gentlemen we have gumbo parmesan albita gumbo parmesan and albita and a coke slurpy doesn't get any easier than that along with that we've got gaises and sake vokas and manila bong hits and berbans sparkling cider and escorts gingerl and gerbils we got breast milk and pablam and of course we have the mutton and the mead welcome to the roundtable you also should go to no agenda rings dot com take a look at those fine knight and dame rings we'll send you out one that fits your size. There is a handy ring-sizing guide right there on the website
Starting point is 03:11:24 and let us know we can send it to you. And thank you for supporting the show. And welcome to the roundtable. No agenda nights and aims. No agenda meetups. Well, we do have the big meetup coming up on Saturday, the North Olympic Peninsula last-minute meetup. It's a last-minute meetup.
Starting point is 03:11:46 Why is it a last-minute meetup? meetup. Why? Why is it a last minute? Did they just decide? Are they going to do something? Exactly. It'll be at 3.33 p.m. at Bar-Hop Brewing in Port Angeles, Washington, attending Mimi, Jay, and Brennan, Sir Tim from the Squim will be organizing this. And thanks to the outstanding work of the producers on the No Agenda Show, I have a copy balance, no less, of their promo. In the morning, this is T. Ryan Everett. Wow. What a lead-in for this. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Wow. All right. Sir Tim from Squam, Commodore of the Port of Angels. And this is Mimi Smith, Dvorak. In fighting you to the first. No, that's fake news. She doesn't sound like that. It should be.
Starting point is 03:12:34 She does she works the mic. And this is Mimi Smith-Divorak. Notice the Smith-Divorek. What is that? A little like, well, you know, at any minute, she'd go back to just Mimi Smith, if you don't play your cards. She should run for office with Smith is a better name. Oh, okay. And this is Mimi Smith, DeVorek, inviting you to the first in a long, long time. North
Starting point is 03:12:59 Olympic, No Agenda Meetup on Saturday, September 13th, which is just a couple of days away. So set your sat-nav. Or Google it. I guess for you boomers, you can use your phone book.
Starting point is 03:13:17 And join us at Bar Hop in Port Angeles, not the one in Swim, but the one in Port Angeles, this Saturday at 3.33 p.m. That's Saturday the 13th at 333 p.m. at Barhop in Port Angeles, where protection is connection or connection is protection, one of the two. No, no, just don't get it on me. Okay. Hi, I'm Adam Curry, and I love listening to Millennial Media Affairs. I got punked. So, Eric P.P., now, we talked about this audacity file. So I posted in the chat.
Starting point is 03:14:05 Eric P.P. gets back to me. I save it. I don't listen to it. Obviously, otherwise I would have time. I would have banned it outright. That was probably the worst promo I've ever heard. and then no agenda millennial post me a copy and said oh I balanced it for you and so I'm and I know Eric P.P. very well. I'm like oh well maybe Eric P.P. didn't have time. So that's very
Starting point is 03:14:29 kind of you know agenda millennial and punked me with a little no agenda millennial promo right at the end of that. Yeah. That was pretty good. Outstanding work. Outstanding. That actually made that whole minute bearable. Also on Saturday, the New Jersey Central meetup, we drink and we know things. Spooky season edition, 2 o'clock at 3BR Distillery and Keyport, New Jersey, and the Northern Silicon Valley get John out of the house meetup on the 13th, which of course will be without Jay, without Mimi, without Brennan, because they're all doing a competing meetup. That'll be meetup number 8, 333 p.m. Pacific, same time at Pizzeria Violetta in Oakland. California. Go say hi to John, everybody. And on Thursday, our next show day, Charlotte's Thursday, Thursday, monthly, this is, I don't know how many of they're done. They've been doing
Starting point is 03:15:21 this forever. Seven o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. Thank you all very much for your, for your meetup courage. And you can always go to no agenda meetups.com to find out where all of them are taking place. Connection is protection. Yes, you can get some of it on you, Mimi. Don't worry about it. These are the people who will be your first responders in an emergency. See, if you can't find where near you, you go to Knowagintameteups.com and start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be.
Starting point is 03:15:57 Drink it all hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Man, you're going to have to have a phone call after the show. with Mimi about the promo well you know they don't listen to enough promos
Starting point is 03:16:19 do they listen to the show at all well she does but I don't know if she pays it was it was Tim that decided to do the promo and so she just wait a minute you mean Tim he's got he was talking the back on right now yeah okay
Starting point is 03:16:34 man that's great They'll love you for that. Oh, yeah. Just ragging on these poor people. Hey, that's what we do. Two ISOs. He's my first.
Starting point is 03:16:49 I don't know what else to tell you. Mm-hmm. And I have this one. I mean, this is, this is Balderdash. Baldur-Dash? Oh, brother. You got a better one? I think so.
Starting point is 03:17:02 Yep, that podcast was a humdinger. Well, how can I compete with AI? I'm all in now. It's $40 billion worth of AI. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with J.C.D. And sometimes at all. All right.
Starting point is 03:17:22 I'm going to do something as a little food and wine related. We always love the fine and wood and fine. The what? The wood and fine tips of the day. Wood and fine. Yes, I got to write that one down. Wood and fine. Socky.
Starting point is 03:17:37 Oh. Oh. Most people don't know how to buy sake. In fact, I'm very happy you're doing this because when we went out in Austin with the former Hollywood executive, we went to a very upscale sushi restaurant. I think it's a neighborhood sushi restaurant that was called. And I ordered sake. And there was a list that was so long. I'm like, just give me the winter warrior.
Starting point is 03:18:02 I had no idea what I was doing. Yeah, that would be normal. Not for you, for everybody. Yes. Okay, so what you're looking for when you're by a sake, there's a couple of things, and then I have an obscure, the tip is actually the obscure ending to this little lecture.
Starting point is 03:18:19 You want to always get a gynjo, a gynjo, shaki, shaki. Ging jo, is that G-I-N-J-O, Gingo? A J-O, you got it right the first time. G-I-N-G-O, okay, yeah. And if there's variations like Dai Jing-Jo or there's other gingos, it has to be, any of those variations are, are fine. They get better. There's some better ginoos that are really elaborate, but they're incredibly expensive. But gins jo is your baseline. You want to get a ginojo. That means that's
Starting point is 03:18:50 a sake that ensures it's 100% rice. They don't put neutral spirits in like they do the cheaper grades of sake. A lot of them have that in there. If it doesn't say ginjo, you're going to get neutral spirits watering it down. Just crap. Okay, you want ginjo. Now, the funny thing is, and I've only noticed this over the years. This is an observation that does not been documented, but it's an observation I made. And I made it initially about 30 years ago when I was at some event and a Japanese guy was there
Starting point is 03:19:22 and he gifted me a bottle of sake. And it was terrific, one of the best bottles I've ever had. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I do remember one characteristic. And I've noticed this over and over and over and over again when I buy sake from Costco. or I buy as long as it's Ginjo a sockie from Costco
Starting point is 03:19:41 and I buy sake from our local Tokyo fish market if it's in a blue bottle it's always good I know this is not been documented by anybody but I have observed this over and over and over again over the years and you'll see there's a whole bunch of sake's up on the wall
Starting point is 03:20:04 and one of them's in a blue bottle And that's the one. Just buy that and see what happens. It's going to be good. I have no idea if a Japanese sake expert can come and back me up on this. But I've always noticed that the blue bottle sockies are always the best. I don't know. Well, I would love for Sir Mark and Dame Astrid to chime in on this.
Starting point is 03:20:29 But I do not doubt you. And I'm always going to say, excuse me, can I see the bottle for this? Can I see all the bottles? When you're at a restaurant, they usually, they usually, okay, when you're at a restaurant, the sockis are generally in the big giant bottles. Yes. And the big giant bottles, which are, I don't know, a liter and a half, or no, they're like two liters are huge. And that's where they usually, most of the, you get a lot of sake in these big, huge bottles. Blue bottles are delicate.
Starting point is 03:20:59 So you won't find a big giant blue bottle because the nature, I think it's boron, maybe I've been. I've learned another tip. Blue bottles are delicate. This is another tip of the day. Blue bottles are delicate and that's why you don't see too many blue bottles because they're hard to make. When I was inspecting the glass factory at Pittsburgh plate glass, it used to be in Oakland.
Starting point is 03:21:21 I got this lecture about, oh, we can't do. Oh, blue. Oh, it's a pain in the ass. They're brittle. They're crappy. You know, we don't like making blue because it's a boron or something that goes in there makes them brittle. And so I've never seen a giant bottle of even the same brand of sake in a blue bottle.
Starting point is 03:21:41 They're always the brown bottle. So you can't necessarily look at the bottle at a restaurant because they're always going to be these giant bottles that they use typically. So you're going to have to go, just go with Ginjo. Ginjo, it is. There it is. His tip of the day, a very handy one. Look out for the blue bottle, everybody. Green advice for you and me.
Starting point is 03:22:03 Just the tip with Jason. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnettie. Well, there you go. We conclude our broadcast day as we put this genie back in the blue bottle until Sunday when we return. I'm sure there'll be something else to look forward to or not. Something will happen. We'll know something. Something always happens.
Starting point is 03:22:28 Something always happens. Usually on a show day, but sometimes not on a show day. Be kind to each other. And stay tuned to the No Agenda stream. We have, oh, this is a good one. Who are these broadcasters? It's episode 110. Howard Stern speaks, but who's listening?
Starting point is 03:22:46 Well, that's a good question. That'll be next on the stream or in your modern podcast app. We will be igniting the bat signal again on Sunday. End of show mixes from Kevin Drinkar and Jeffrey Crocker, who makes excellent use of that $60 billion investment in AI with his own lyrics. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas. Hill Country. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. DeVore.
Starting point is 03:23:12 Please remember us at No Agenda Donations.com. Keep the value for value going. 1,800 episodes coming up and 18 years in the can. Until Sunday, remember us at No Agenda Donations.com. Until then, adiosmo, foes. A hooey, hooey, and such. All of a lot. He has got to pull the plug on TV advertising immediately. Let's start with a science. Vaccination.
Starting point is 03:23:38 It is a chaotic situation. He has got to pull the plug on TV advertising immediately. I remember the freezer trucks behind Lennox's hospital where I work. George, it feels like right now it is a chaotic situation. And like we are on board, there is no captain steering the shipping. I know there's a lot of misinformation and mistrust. Well, one thing that should not be under fire is vaccination. And the public health story's success that vaccination has been in this country.
Starting point is 03:24:04 We know they have saved no. millions of lives. We know that it prevents disability from diseases. We forget, but polio can cause paralysis. Weasels can lead to brain inflammation. If you get sick, it can end up resulting a complication. We have vaccines for cancer, HIV, and hepatitis. I think far was advertising a podcast. I remember the freezer trucks. There is no captain steering a thing. He has got to pull the plug on TV advertising immediately. I remember the freezer trucks behind how possible
Starting point is 03:24:35 where I worked. Mom, darling. Oh, can't tardy. Oh, oh, oh, oh. In New York, we're building it new.
Starting point is 03:25:00 Affordable life shining through. freeze that rent let the people all stay buses free to ride every day groceries run by the city's hand a fair new york across the land can die with childing with wages that rise we're reaching for blueer skies Housing strong for the working class pride Tax the rich
Starting point is 03:26:08 Take the greed for a ride Union jobs with a future to share A city that's truly fair The Best Podcasts Adios, Mofo Devorak.org slash N.A. Yep, that podcast was a humdinger.

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