No Agenda - 1799 - "Taproot"

Starting point is 00:00:00 So they're bombing the public relations department. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday, September 14, 2025. This is your award winning. My Nation Media Assassination Episode 1799. This is no agenda. We've got the magic number. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA region number six.

Starting point is 00:00:22 In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where wait, the roommate was a transatlantic. named Twigs. What? I'm John C. DeVorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning.

Starting point is 00:00:38 Yeah. Uh-huh. This whole thing smells bad, Mr. DeVorek. Well, I know a couple of things that are obvious. Fox. And I have this clip from this morning. I sent it as a bonus clip.

Starting point is 00:00:56 Okay. They are avoiding this topic like the plague. Foxes? Yeah. I don't think it's going to last long, but Howard Kurtz's show, he does a kind of a clone on the media. He's like one of the media guys. He comes on once a week.

Starting point is 00:01:11 Oh, okay. Deconstructed media. Does he do that on the weekend? I don't think we've ever seen him. Yeah, only weekends. Okay. It's like Sunday only. I don't even think he does a Saturday show.

Starting point is 00:01:20 Okay. And so it kind of came up in the conversation. Man, they, they, this is the clip TG. this uh they went so for they just said they just dropped this like a hot potato nobody wants to talk about it at fox uh megan do the media need to know this uh whether he the report is that he was rooming with a transgender person or is that just you know something to glom onto because then we can blame it on the other side we i'd said earlier you know all democrats are out for murder that kind of like painting with a broad brush i don't necessarily think we need to know the

Starting point is 00:01:55 murder. I think he was mentally unstable and I think he committed murder, which is horrendous and unnecessary on a basic level. But I think that we're always going to find people who don't like our views, whether or not they're moderate, whether or not their left or whether or not they're to the right. I got a threat on Friday. I'm a very moderate Democrat who comes on Fox, who comes on all the stations. And it's very moderate. I should not be getting threats in my social media, but we do. I'm sure you get stuff. Literally on Friday. I'm sure you get them, and we all get them. I don't care what their motives are. They shouldn't be violent. It shouldn't matter. You should have the freedom to say what you want to say.

Starting point is 00:02:26 That's the end of story. That's our democracy. Yeah, I think this is a part of something else. I believe that all of the networks on all sides of the same spectrum as they all are, really, have all gotten the message, we've got to calm it down because we're all somehow responsible for this. And you don't want to get fired because people are getting fired left and right. Right now only left, but I think right is coming.

Starting point is 00:02:53 And the media has gotten some. message to tamp it all down and not blame it on a side. At least that's what it seems like to me. Well, you know, the funny thing out here, it's kind of just completely dissipated from the whole thing is gone. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, I'm looking at the quad screen. And Fox is talking to Mike Johnson for the past 48 hours.

Starting point is 00:03:25 Wow, that's got to be high entertainment. Oh, I have a couple of clips from this morning. I mean, the guy's making the rounds. But before we do that, everybody was waiting for Saturday. You know, we had the, you know, the FBI, you got a press conference, 20 minutes late. We're looking at the empty stage. We've got a, we got the four minute warning. We got the two minute warning.

Starting point is 00:03:49 Okay, it's coming. And then we got this. In 33 hours, we have made historic. progress for Charlie. Wow. In less than 36 hours, 33 to be precise. Hold on, hold on, hold on, there's one more. No.

Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes, yeah. Let me play all three, just so you get it all in context. These are in linear fashion. In 33 hours, we have made historic progress for Charlie. In less than 36 hours, 33 to be precise. bad stuff happens and for for 33 hours why the laugh tell I was the laugh tell from the governor of Utah was the weirdest one as he turns around and looks at cash Patel and says for a bad stuff happens um and uh for for 33 hours what is up with that this was Tina comes in from the bathroom she's like what is going on i'm like well for almost 18 years we've been

Starting point is 00:05:02 tracking this and we can't now all of a sudden no avail well true but it's always always something up with this and what was the emphasis you could have said in less than 48 hours a little over 24 uh less than a day and a half no 33 33 this bugged me to know in. Well, actually, the best of the group was he said 36 and then he corrected it to 33. Yes, in less than 36, 33. To be exact. And which is bull crap, because we all know anyone who's ever worked for a living or done anything,

Starting point is 00:05:41 you can't pinpoint, you know, your success at a certain number of exact hours to be exact. That's not even possible. No. So this was. So that's code. Of course it's code. And all of the stuff that's coming out and the information that's from sources. Because mind you, I don't think there's been an official FBI notice.

Starting point is 00:06:10 Has this person even been officially charged yet? Because on Saturday, Cash Patel was very clear. We have 36 hours to file charging document. So this person hasn't even officially been charged as far as. I know, the whole thing stinks. We were at, there was a big benefit concert last night for, you know, for the flood victims. Trace Atkin performed. Have you ever seen Trace Atkins, man, that guy is good.

Starting point is 00:06:43 But my buddy Mike, the sheriff, he was, you know, in charge of a lot of the security there. And he came right up to me, said, Adam, we, you know, I guess they may have some. some inside knowledge. I don't know if Gillespie County Sheriff's Office gets that or not. But he said... It's unlikely, but okay. Well, they talk, you know, people talk. And so whatever talk there is, I'm just passing it on.

Starting point is 00:07:08 He says, one, no way. He says, no way this went down the way they're saying it. And then another thing which I found curious, he says, we've got a video with audio of two shots. That I'm like, okay, well, send... He hasn't sent it to me yet, but I said, send it to me. I'd love to hear that. Well, it could also be a ricochet, it could be an echo.

Starting point is 00:07:31 No echo, echo. But it's not like these guys don't know what that sounds like. So the whole thing was, everything's off about it. And, you know, it just, you know, we've got the etchings on the casing, which we still have not seen. We've only heard about it. And we have. Where's the photo? Exactly.

Starting point is 00:07:49 At least with the other guy, they showed us, you know, his video showing all the etchings and commentary, they showed it and put. that didn't put it online. Almost like that was predictive programming. You know, it's like, well, it'll be just like that. You saw it. You saw it with that other guy. So you know it's the same here. The whole thing is just, uh, hmm.

Starting point is 00:08:09 Well, it's one of those things we can't do anything about except note it. Well. Because we don't know. No, no. But it, but it leaves, it leaves so much open. And I think that's exactly the point. Yes, I mentioned that in the newsletter. yesterday, which is that this could lead, especially if something happens to this character.

Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh, yeah, which they were screwed. How likely is that? Gee, I'd be stunned. Yeah. And so we'd be stuck with this kind of speculation forever. This is like a real time sync. What's interesting about this particular case is the amount of stories coming out about people getting fired for their response online.

Starting point is 00:08:57 And I just pulled one story from Ohio, which actually has three stories in it. Just because you have a computer or phone handy doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. Monroe Falls City Council Vice President John Empleiserie is feeling the heat after post-criticizing Charlie Kirk saying in part, quote, the world is a better place now that he's gone. end quote. And 19 News has confirmed a Cleveland firefighter and EMS staff member are under internal investigation after the city was made aware of social media activity. Cleveland attorney Danny Karen says the First Amendment protections are not limitless. There's certain restrictions on the First Amendment. But as it concerns kids, teachers, whomever popping off, counsel people popping off online saying awful and sundiary things.

Starting point is 00:09:47 Not real smart. Why? Why? Because a lot of us have codes of conduct or codes of ethics that control our work experiences. You may be surprised to learn. It does not matter if you're a government employee or work for a private company. By the way, all the reports are similar to this. It's like they keep talking about this thing called free speech, which I'm not sure what that is. It's just what used to be called freedom of speech is now just free speech. Like you don't have to pay. It's like a podcast. It's free. You don't have to pay for it. It's free. Free speech. and that this is, they're kind of turning it into a debate about, you know, well, I have the right to say whatever I want to say, which is ludicrous.

Starting point is 00:10:24 But the reason this is interesting is these city council people, other officials, like in the fire department, people at schools. The reason they said this stuff is because they clearly thought everybody agrees. this is this is what's so eye-opening can you hear me yeah can you not hear me no it was my fault i you know i this thing goes i mutes itself i was just going to say in that list of people you're talking about you know who else got nailed who george conway oh really interesting george conway posted a picture uh comparing charlie kirk to some Yugan Nazi from the 30s and had a picture of them side by side.

Starting point is 00:11:14 And he's just getting blessed. And this is, you know, every time I see this character who's just a lunatic, how did he ever hook up with Kellyanne Conway, who's a power, it just baffles me. He had political power at the time. That's what it was. But do you understand? She was an idiot. But let's just go back to the point I'm trying to make here, is that they clearly thought

Starting point is 00:11:36 it was okay to post this, whatever the post was, you know, it varied from, you know, oh, well, yeah, he said that some victims would have to fall for, you know, for defending the Second Amendment to good riddance, all these, but I'm convinced that these people truly believed that everybody around them had the same opinion. But wait, wait, you had a thing about pre-programming earlier in your little commentary. Yes, yes. How about Luigi? There you go.

Starting point is 00:12:11 There's the pre-programming because everybody was all in love with Luigi and that nobody got burned for it. Exactly. Ah, very good point. Very good point. Huh. Isn't that interesting? Well. And these guys are getting burned really.

Starting point is 00:12:30 The Lib's a TikTok girl. Yeah. She has been posting one teacher after, because she's, You know, she really goes after teachers. One teacher after another who have posted some nasty stuff and names the school and everything. Well, and she always finishes with the same line. Do you want this person teaching your children?

Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, doesn't that prove the point that the entire education system believes that this was okay? This is okay. Everybody agree. Hey, if you could come back and kill baby Hitler in a time machine, wouldn't you do it? Well, sure I would. Which brings me to the Supercut. I've got a better one than the one we just kind of hastily patched together on Thursday. This is primarily MSNBC, primarily. But it's not just talking heads.

Starting point is 00:13:25 It's, you know, the guests. It's captains of industry. Of course, Nancy Pelosi's in there as well. and when you listen to it in this context of just a super cut, you go, well, yeah, of course I would come back and kill baby Hitler and Gering and Goebbels and every single one of the of the Hitler Uguns, which, well, listen. We have to start calling his supporters racist as well. That MAGA had, that MAGA symbol has come to represent something. It is the new Nazi symbol. It is the new could.

Starting point is 00:13:59 Because there's not a party, right? They're Sinn Féin to the IRA, they're the people. to Hamas. They're a dime store front for a terrorist movement. The Republican Party is basically a domestic terrorist cell at this point, and they should be treated as such. There are elements of the GOP that are starting to look like the jihadists. Not a political party. They're a white nationalist movement. They're a fascist threat to our nation. That's not hyperbolic. That's academic. It would have one seemed hyperbolic, but it increasingly does feel like the Republican Party has become a death cult, and it's all about Donald Trump. There is no alternative right now

Starting point is 00:14:31 because the Republican Party project today is a fascist authoritarian project. In fact is, Republicans in Congress are still in the grip of the ultra-maga agenda. Party of dupes, party of knuckleheads, party of weirdos, party of freaks. That is a simple, simple messaging. Underneath that, it's the party of nothing. It has become an authoritarian embracing cult. It is fascist. We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Starting point is 00:15:01 And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and are honoring our Constitution are right at 1,600 Pennsylvania Avenue with their allies in the Congress of the United States. Trump's modern-day Gascoppo is scooping folks up off the streets. They're in unmarked vans wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. No chance to mount a defense. Not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye. Just grabbed up by masked agents, shoved into those vans. The old films of the Gestapo grabbing people off the streets of Poland, and you compare them to those non-descript thugs who grabbed that student, that graduate student, it does look like a Gestapo operation.

Starting point is 00:15:46 Because if we just roll this clock on the wall back 75 years, we'd be looking at a time in Nazi Germany where people ran around with signs like this new ice sign that says, report all. foreign invaders to ICE with Uncle Sam there holding up the sign. This could have been a Gestapo member 75 years ago. Report all Jews. Polts of authoritarian personality in league with autocrats and kleptocrats and dictators all over the world. And taking direct aim at our democracy. Autocratic leaning remarks he has made in recent weeks and months, such as ones that echo Hitler. Hitler in 1933 was talking about his designs on America. And Hitler described you could get Americans to give up. their own democracy and to be ready for a fascist takeover.

Starting point is 00:16:32 It's a disaster. We need extreme measures. Now, it's not that all the kids in the world are watching MSNBC, but you know every single teacher is. Because remember the liberal school teacher from Austin who we used to hang out with, who we don't anymore? She watched MSNBC religiously. It was her church. So this is what's happening.

Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah, well, that's why they had to, that's why Brian Roberts, the CEO of Comcast who owns MSNBC, had to spin it off. Yes, he wanted out. By the way, I have the Fox, actually, this might have been the last moment that Fox News talked about, the trans part of this story. Breaking! Fox News Alert, FBI sources tell Fox News Digital that the man charged with assassinated. Okay, so the FBI sources. FBI sources. Who do they call? Fox Digital. Really? That's who they call? Wouldn't they be calling Hannity? No, we're calling if, hey, boys, let's leak some information. Let's call Fox Digital. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:43 A Fox News Alert. FBI sources tell Fox News Digital that the man charged with assassinating Charlie Kirk was living with a transgender partner. Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson was in a romantic relationship with someone transitioning from male to female. They say that individual is fully cooperating with their investigation, claims to have had no idea of Robinson's plans, and is not currently accused of any criminal activity. Oh, thank you very much for that update. I want to hear some of the...

Starting point is 00:18:20 I know you have some anal clips. Actually, I think I can predict the quote from that trans woman when she she he they i don't know what you know her pronoun is nobody told me uh the first thing she said was you did what okay no it's ruined it's going to ruin that person's life it's going to ruin the family the family of the kid luna is uh is the person's name luna i thought it was twigs well no that's the online i don't know who who cares But who care who knows? Luna Twigs.

Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, Lance S. Twigs, also known as Luna. And by the way, big mistake in this whole thing. Sorry to say it. But why doesn't Tyler Robinson have a middle name? This is not a good, this is not a... We're missing a middle name. For the 33 motif, yes, you have to have a middle in the three, which means three names. Yeah, we got to have the middle name.

Starting point is 00:19:22 So something's up here. You want to just hear some of the morning shows since we got them from this morning. This is all the latest. Yeah, most of my stuff is the analysis clips. Yeah, which is important, I want to hear. And we'll play those afterwards. I want to hear the morning shows, I'm sure, were gems. Here's ABC this week.

Starting point is 00:19:37 This morning, the New York Times is reporting that in the hours after Charlie Kirk's murder, his alleged gunman Tyler Robinson was messaged in a group chat by an acquaintance, jokingly questioning where he was, suggesting he resemble the manned police were looking for. According to the Times, Robinson responded that his doppelganger was trying to get me in trouble while making other jokes about the manhunt, including saying he was actually Charlie Kirk. ABC News has not independently verified those messages. Authorities announcing the arrest... By the way, do you hear that insert?

Starting point is 00:20:07 Hey, hey guys, listen, you just said that. We need to add a little disclaimer there that we haven't independently verified with the New York Times said, please, because you never know it could be bull crap. Including saying he was actually Charlie Kirk. ABC News has not independently verified those messages. Authorities announced... Did you hear the insert? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could hear it as a flip in.

Starting point is 00:20:30 The arrest of 22-year-old Tyler Robinson on Friday. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him. But until his capture, the suspect had been an unknown man in grainy surveillance images. Images authorities say were recognized by the suspect's own father. A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed. to them or implied that he had committed the incident. Authorities tell

Starting point is 00:20:59 ABC News hundreds of investigators stitch the alleged gunman's path from the moment he drove onto campus at 8.29 a.m. on Wednesday. TMZ obtaining this video appearing to match the description of the shooter who police say appears to walk with a stiff right leg and that his ability to bend

Starting point is 00:21:15 his right leg appears to be restricted. Law enforcement sources tell us investigators believe Robinson was hiding his long gun under his clothing. And at some point authorities say he changed into the outfit seen in photos released during the Manhunt and climbed up a campus stairwell to a roof at about 1150 a.m. And then he's seen dressed in a black cap, sunglasses, and a black shirt emblazoned with an American flag and an eagle. Yeah, missing everywhere is him reassembling a gun

Starting point is 00:21:42 that was either in his backpack or walking with a four foot long rifle with his legs bent up the stairs. I mean, they showed, the FBI showed a picture. Apparently it's an FBI. picture with the scope mounted in according to our experts the wrong spot it's just like the whole thing it's the 33's that that got me right away I'm like okay yeah the 33 is a problem and it's true I wasn't since TMZ was mentioned in there I shouldn't I didn't know I didn't get any clips of this but I should have there's a couple out there that are good uh Harvey is you You know, TMZ, I think, is owned by Fox and Harvey was turned pale white and came on and did a thing because during the announcement of the death of Charlie Kirk,

Starting point is 00:22:32 there were cheers, cheers, the staff. And this has been posted over and over again, showing the exact timeline. Time codes, I know. The internet sleuths are on the case. I'm telling you, the online sleuths are unbelievable. So they had the time codes that things all synced up. They obviously were cheering because exact same moment at the end made this announcement. Harvey came on later in the show and said, well, though it was because they were watching.

Starting point is 00:22:58 Police chase. Police chase, yeah. And it was bull crap. And he was not. He was shook. He says, we wouldn't have people working here that would do that when in fact, he's like a Trump hater. And so he's only going to hire other people of like mind.

Starting point is 00:23:15 And it's just, it's pathetic. And as Charlie Kirk fired up the crowd, tossing hats. Authorities say the suspect crouched and waited. At 1222 p.m., they say Robinson sprang, no longer limping, into position on the roof, then lay down in a sniper position about 175 yards from the stage. One minute later, as Charlie Kirk was answering a question... Now, listen to the edit on this. You think Fox didn't want to talk about the trans information?

Starting point is 00:23:48 Listen to they edit this one. One minute later, as Charlie Kirk was answering a question about gun violence, police say the suspect fired. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years? Stay back. They pulled out the whole trans shooter thing. Wow. Pull it out.

Starting point is 00:24:08 Pull it out. That is deceptive and not news. Now who is this again? This is ABC this week from this morning. that is that is disturbing it was more than that it is disgusting that they can't even present the i don't know it's i'm besie it's annoying let's listen to uh the man of the day mike johnson appearing everywhere don't worry mike mike's okay though the bird is the speakership are always manifold you know that previous speakers i've covered know that but they feel particularly heavy

Starting point is 00:24:47 after the events of this week. I just want to ask you, Mr. Speaker, how are you doing? I'm doing okay, Major. Thanks for asking. No question. It was a difficult week. It's so hard for me. For the country. Certainly it was throat. He had a cough towel to it. Yeah. Yeah, let's listen to that again. Ask you, Mr. Speaker, how are you doing? I'm doing okay, Major. Thanks for asking. No question, it was a difficult week for the country. Certainly, it was felt on Capitol Hill. There's a mixture of, you know, anger and sadness and fear, frankly, on the part of a lot of people. It cast a large shadow across the country and the nation's capital.

Starting point is 00:25:22 But what I do know, Major, is that my good friend Charlie would not want any of us to be consumed by despair. He would want us to go forward boldly. That was his message. And to do it in love. And I think that, I hope, is the message that continues in the days ahead. Yeah, this is interesting. Well, actually, you'll hear it in the next two clips that, Now all the politicians are very concerned for their safety.

Starting point is 00:25:45 Mr. Speaker, you mentioned the word fear a moment ago. It is on the lips of members of Congress in ways I've never experienced before. They are talking openly. They already have canceled events. Other members are talking about whether or not it's proper in their family conversations to seek re-election. That's a great way to honor Charlie to cower. That's a great way to do it. Cower and not show up in public.

Starting point is 00:26:09 That honors Charlie Kirk's memory. Very good. How do you feel this particular space of anxiety for your membership? Republican and Democrat. Space of anxiety, wow. Yeah, well, I've been talking with a lot of them over the last few days about that and trying to calm the nerves to assure them that we will make certain that everyone has the level of security that's necessary, that the resources will be there for their residential security and their personal security.

Starting point is 00:26:36 We're evaluating all the options for that. But I think if we all adopt these practices together and we turn down the rhetoric, we, you know, cease with this idea that, you know, policy disputes are somehow an existential threat to democracy or the republic. We stop calling one another names. I mean, calling people Nazis and fascists is not helpful. Look, there are some deranged people in society. And when they see leaders using that kind of language, so often now, increasingly it spurs them on to action. We have to recognize that reality and address it appropriately. And I'm heartened to know, Major, and to see that many of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle are stepping up and saying that and addressing it. I think this could be a turning point, frankly, to use Charlie's term for the country, and I hope that's true.

Starting point is 00:27:27 You know, I will tell you that if this is what I think it may be, which is part of a larger operation to sow discord in the United States, States, to get people to hate each other even more than they already did in our country, I would be looking more towards other very big conservative voices. If I were any of those big podcasters, that's who should be careful. Well, that's interesting that you say that because Tim Poole was on Jesse Waters. You got a clip? I had a clip. Did you have a clip?

Starting point is 00:28:07 I should have got the clip. I have a lot of clips, but I can't get every clip that comes from my end up. You can just tell us what he said. I, of course, did not see this. So what did he say? He said he has a contingent of bodyguards. And he's had him for quite a while. He went on and on about it.

Starting point is 00:28:26 I mean, he was actually quite, I should have recorded it now that I think about it because Tim Poole was quite erudite in discussing this. And it would be worth recording. But he did mention in the process that, yes, he talked about the security that Kirk had. He says he's got the same security because he's under a constant threat, I guess. Or is anybody care that much about Tim Poole that they're threat? I'm thinking bigger than Tim Poole. I don't want to name names.

Starting point is 00:28:56 I know, but I'm just saying at the Tim Poole level you have this. I don't know who bigger would be Joe Rogan. He's the biggest. You know, you've got Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson. You've got Candace Owens. Yeah, Tucker's up there. You've got people up there. You know, if this is what I think it is, we'll get to that much later.

Starting point is 00:29:14 But first of all, we've got to blame it on something. What? I'm not in that camp. I don't see this as being anything more than it is. No, that's fine. That's fine. I just have ideas, ideas and thoughts. But first, we need to blame it on something.

Starting point is 00:29:29 This is still CBS face the nation. We're going to take a closer look at the, problem of political violence in America, and we're joined now, I'm glad to say, by University of Chicago Professor Robert Pape. He's the founding director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats. Now listen to this guy, because his numbers are all over the place. Professor, it's great to have you with us. Thanks for joining us. What are the trend lines and what is the key terminology you want my audience to understand? We are now in a watershed moment for what I call the era of violent populism in America.

Starting point is 00:30:04 This era is defined first and foremost by two factors. Trump and Trump. Number one, a rising tide of political violence on both the right and the left. Our Center at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats, we have been conducting highly reliable national surveys on political violence, the support for political violence among Americans for over four years. They stopped the clip. So who is he to say out of the blue highly reliable political surveys?

Starting point is 00:30:35 Oh, it gets better. It gets much better. I mean, immediately that's, to me, it's a red flag for a guy as full of shit. Of course. Our center at the universe of Chicago project on security and threats. We have been conducting highly reliable national surveys on political violence, the support for political violence among Americans for over four years. We started this in the summer of 2021.

Starting point is 00:30:58 One, our most recent survey in May found higher levels of support for political violence on both the right and the left than we have ever seen. Okay, hold on. He's had this highly reliable information for four years. And now the information shows it's worse than we've ever seen. But he wasn't surveying anything before four years ago. No, the evidence is just the opposite, too. I mean, I went through the 60s and 70s where you had, you had unbelievable political violence besides, you know, starting, it actually started with the death of, with the assassination of Kennedy, the assassination of RFK, and then the assassination of Martin Luther King, who is the highest order guy you can kill. There was Huey Newton was killed in Oakland.

Starting point is 00:31:48 There was a bunch of Larry Flint, the publisher of Hustler magazine, was shot and Crippled for life. George Wallace was shot. Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was shot George. McGovern. Gerald Ford was shot at twice. And you ended up with over a thousand bombings in the 70s.

Starting point is 00:32:11 And this is what we're seeing now. This stuff that's going on now is worse. Are you kidding me? Well, we can all blame it on one. obvious thing. Does your research buttress the point that both Senator Langford and Senator Coons made, which is the internet is

Starting point is 00:32:26 an accelerant and an amplifier? It's an accelerant, but it's not the root cause. So studying this problem now for five years, I've found that just as around the world, big social change it drives political

Starting point is 00:32:42 violence. We see this in other countries around the world, but the details of the change vary. We are now moving for the first time in our country's 250-year history. Okay, what are we moving towards? Come on. We've got to blame it on something. What can we blame it on?

Starting point is 00:32:59 What are we moving toward in our 250-year history? First time in 250-year history. From my perspective, we're moving toward nothing different, but I could see that somebody who's a lunatic that's been studying this four years, as he said earlier. Then he suddenly says five years, which I find interesting. contradiction. Probably fascism. No, much simpler. Come on. Simpler.

Starting point is 00:33:26 Here we go. Populism is a... No, no, no, here we go. From a white majority democracy to a white minority democracy. It's racism. In 1990, we were 76% non-Hispanic white. Today, we're 57% non-Hispanic white. It will be another 10 years, maybe 15. if we deport a lot of those undocumented illegal immigrants before we make the transition to a truly white minority democracy. Well, this generational change has happened to start about 10 years ago where the real tipping point generation and corresponds with the rise of Donald Trump,

Starting point is 00:34:04 why his issue of immigration is meteoric, why it's morphed from immigration, meaning stop people crossing the border to now deporting mass numbers of people. because there are people on the right who want to stop or reverse this and also the virulent reaction to Donald Trump on the left. This guy is an agent. Parts of the left who want to keep this going. This is really the tap route. And that's why we need to expect this left of its own devices will get worse and be with us for 10 years.

Starting point is 00:34:34 I've never, the term taproot is funny. It's a, it was a... No, that's not a term that's used in academia. that is a term that's used someplace else. That's a milieu term that's used some places. I don't know where we can probably find it. You know, if we do enough research, it could be an Intel term.

Starting point is 00:34:54 We don't know. Well, the only other place I've ever heard Taproot is it was an addition to Bitcoin about seven years ago that enabled the Lightning Network. And it was called Taproot. When we asked the computer. Should we ask the computer? Oh, I think we, she needs to, yes, I think this is a great addition to the show. Except for the fact that there's a, there's a lag.

Starting point is 00:35:23 Well, I'm going to try. By the way, this leg is not as bad that old lag you used to have with that other device. Oh, oh, well, that was when I was still using Alexa. Oh, that was, that was alexia. That was terrible. Okay. Error. What is, what is the origin of the term tap root?

Starting point is 00:35:42 It comes from botany, describing a plant's main root that digs deep like a tap root, while others branch out shallowly. First used in the 17th century, think tap as in a spout or peg, implying something central and piercing down. Not related to modern taps, though. So it's a botanist. That's, that's, it did suck. I think the question was asked poorly. By the way, so J.C. was at dinner recently, and he, who was very deeply involved in all this. He had told me there's three huge flaws that everybody in the business knows about AI.

Starting point is 00:36:19 And one of them, which I thought was the, I don't remember the other two, I'll get them and write them up or have him, you'll get them, we'll get them, we'll get to them. But the one of them that was the most fascinating to me is that they can't learn from the questions or the corrections you make to them. Oh, no, of course not. That wouldn't imply memory. They have their corpus and they use that. And you say, no, no, that's not true.

Starting point is 00:36:42 you know, what you should know is that I'm actually, to tell them to say about yourself, I'm actually the inventor of podcast, oh, yes, okay, you are. They'll say that back to you, but then it won't go back into the corpus. They don't learn that. They'll have the same bogus answers later. It can't go into the corpus because that has to translate into tokens and that costs a lot of compute. Compute. It costs way too much money.

Starting point is 00:37:06 It's massive compute. So there's no interaction whatsoever in a real sense. So tap roots, though, anyway, maybe one of our spooks. Okay, we're asking this way. It may be a spook term. Oh, hold on, hold on. You can ask the question. Hold on.

Starting point is 00:37:20 Ready, go. What is the use of the term tap root in the intelligence community or other social networks? Whoa. Wow. Wow, we got nothing. It wouldn't answer it. Okay. That's odd.

Starting point is 00:37:47 I don't know what to say. You want to try it again? Yeah. I'll try it with that. I'll reword it a little bit. How is the word and or phrase tap root used in the intelligence community or other social networks? It's literally not registering you, John. Well, maybe I'm just not.

Starting point is 00:38:11 being fed to her properly. Well, let me see. How is the term taproot used in intelligence or other networks? Taproot pops out an intelligence and network context, too, borrowing from the plant idea, a hidden central root feeding everything else. In cyber ops, it's slang for a covert command hub in espionage nets, like a deep, undetected node coordinating spies or malware. Some sources link it to blockchain privacy upgrades.

Starting point is 00:38:41 grades on Bitcoin. Wow. Wow. Okay. Well, that's interesting. Yeah. So it's, so it is used in Intel and that guy, and it's not, I know it's not using academia. Huh. So that guy is something else. He's something else, all right. Well, you spotted it. Yeah, like taproot. It's like, because that's, I've heard it in the context of Bitcoin. Okay. So, but what, listen, now we have to listen to what exactly that guy said again. Hold on a second. it was somewhere here let's listen and that's one of the reasons why I ran in May found higher levels of support for political violence

Starting point is 00:39:18 on both the right and the left than we have ever seen and that's one of the reasons why I rang the alarm bell with that big op-ed in the New York Times national surveys on political violence the support for political violence among Americans for over four years we started this in the summer of 2021 no sorry it's number this this is the clip

Starting point is 00:39:37 And now I want to know. National change has happened to start about 10 years ago with a real tipping point generation and corresponds with the rise of Donald Trump, why his issue of immigration is meteoric, why it's morphed from immigration meaning stop people crossing the border to now deporting mass numbers of people because there are people on the right who want to stop or reverse this and also the virulent reaction to Donald Trump on the left, on parts of the left, who want to keep this going. This is really the tap route. And that's why we need to expect this left to its own devices.

Starting point is 00:40:14 What do you make of that then in that context? I don't know. It's just almost like code. Yeah. He's using it casually, which is that's the weird thing. Yeah, he's casually using it. In his milieu, it's a casual word that actually means a lot to that group. Well, maybe he's a botanist.

Starting point is 00:40:31 We're not in that group, so we don't know what it means. He could just be a botanist for all we know. In his spare time, he's gardening. botanist we know that he's gardening he's gardening he's not a botanist and he is i and if he is intelligence of whatever whoever with i mean there's so many now who can tell but it's it's how about this that's a globalist opinion that needs to be rooted out of our intelligence community there you go all of them there you go um so i want to get to i have two more and then we'll get to your your analysis clips this was a cute idea i appreciated it

Starting point is 00:41:06 Everyone was tagging me, sharing this. I'm like, we need to just explain once again what this particular act was and how this is a misunderstanding of it to some degree. President Trump, as a supporter who voted for you three times, I am hoping and praying that you will revisit what Barack Obama and Joe Biden got rid of back in 2013, which is the Smithmunt Act, which held news corporations accountable for lying to the American people and spreading propaganda instead of truth.

Starting point is 00:41:38 Okay, that's the problem. The Smith-Munt Act did not hold news organizations accountable. I saw this too. The Smith-Munt Act was specifically forbidding the American government from propagandizing its own people. And the biggest perpetrator of this was the Voice of America group, the Broadcast Board of Governors, i.e. Tucker Carlson's dad's position back in the day. and the, it got put in, the, the act was reformed, i.e. struck as a part of the National Defense Authorization Act because we could no longer, the way the wording was, is we can no longer propagandize the rest of the world if we're using the internet because invariably we're going to be propagandizing Americans. now that doesn't in no way to the ever can it ever should it ever stop news organizations from doing

Starting point is 00:42:44 whatever they want to do right on the sideline of that i will say that uh looking at operation mockingbird obviously if you have government agents functioning inside your organization which is where all this came from, ultimately, because they were writing the stories, they were for CBS news, they were writing every, they were writing the stories for Newsweek, et cetera. I think it was Newsweek. So obviously, when you let on a whole bunch of these ex-agents, ex-intelligence officer, ex-general, when you let them on the air and let them do their thing, obviously that's propaganda, but it's not really the news network.

Starting point is 00:43:29 So, you know, and it's, and it's, honestly, it's very un-American and unconstitutional for people to be calling to hold the news agencies to account. That's bull crap. And this whole thing was this little pitch by this girl went on and on and on about it. We were completely misleading. And it was reposted by Trump himself, or at least who other does his account. Well, of course. It's what you do. It's a troll.

Starting point is 00:43:57 But the point, but it is a bad, it is a misdirection if ever there was. It's bull crap. Yeah. So, because people got all excited. Yeah, man, you guys talked about Smith Month. Yeah, this is what he's talking about. Then bring it back. But that's, you can't.

Starting point is 00:44:12 I know. It just kills me that. That it's so easy. But she does this such. She's almost like a pro. Yeah, she's non-descripted, you know, kind of nondescripted, you know, plain Jane. And she's, uh, and she's presenting it as in some. reason in a very reasonable fashion and it's just BS.

Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. I'll come back after your analysis clips with some Chris Coon stuff, but I just could not resist because they, they did an emergency pod. We have to do an emergency pod right away. We have emergency pod, everybody. Here we go with the liberal intellectual elites of Pivot. Officials say Robinson made incriminating statements to relatives and sent discord messages about retrieving a rifle from a drop point. Investigators also say they found on messages, messages on the ammunition, the bullets, including... Who said investigators? No. You just heard sources,

Starting point is 00:45:07 Kara Swisher, great journalist that you claim to be. From a drop point, investigators also say they found... No investigator has said anything. Great journalist that you are. A rifle from a drop point. Investigators also say they found on messages, messages on the ammunition, the bullets, including anti-fascist slogans and references to video games and online memes and also an anti-gay remark. Robinson is registered voter in Utah, but doesn't have a party affiliation. His family seems to be Republican, Christian gun-oriented, as many people in Utah are. Are you gun-oriented? Gun-oriented? Where they own a gun shop? No, what's a new type of gender? I'm gun-oriented. Scott, what are your initial

Starting point is 00:45:52 thoughts when you heard about this suspect? Well, my initial thoughts are how disappointed Representative Mays, President Trump, and Jesse Waters might be that it's not a transgender woman with blue hair working on immigration for AOC. Yeah. That was your first thought. Exactly. They have all promised us in exchange for this needless death that they were going to declare war. And so my question is, are they going to declare war on young white heterosexual? Has anyone, did Jesse Waters declare war?

Starting point is 00:46:22 They just declared war. Well, they says... In fact, the response, I think, is pretty well put by the guy who was the governor of Utah. It's everyone's calm. It's not like what happened with George Floyd. No, no, they're going to declare war. All promised us that in exchange for this needless death, that they were going to declare war. And so my question is, are they going to declare war on young white heterosexual men who come from Mormon families

Starting point is 00:46:47 who traditionally have voted Republican or gun owners? So the notion somehow that they are trying to pay. in this on quote unquote, the radical left, is just so insane. It's eminently clear this kid was online, deeply and unfortunately online. Deeply online. I would say. There are two fairly obvious common sense solutions that unfortunately cost a lot of money or diminish the shareholder value of key companies that are driving our entire economy

Starting point is 00:47:17 and get in the way of the political narrative of special interscribes in charge right now. The first and most obvious solution is that Australia and the UK just don't have cultures that much different than us. The last time they had a mass shooting, they put in place sensible gun control. What do you know? No mass shootings since Charlie Kirk. You know what's amazing? Somehow Scott Galloway, who lives in London currently and clearly knows what's going on in Australia, he doesn't see the knives, the machetes, the zombie knives.

Starting point is 00:47:47 Are you kidding me now? Did you see the girl who was slaughtered on the train? Was that a gun? No. Okay, mass shootings. Maybe that's what he's looking at. Mass shootings. Was murdered.

Starting point is 00:47:59 More people have been shot and killed in the U.S. and will be shot and killed in the U.K. over the next year. The U.K. will lose 30 people. He says, we shot and killed. Are you shooting and killing people over there, Scott? Charlie Kirk was murdered. More people have been shot and killed in the U.S.

Starting point is 00:48:14 And we'll be shot and killed in the U.K. Over the next year. Oh, will be? The UK will lose 30 people to gun violence in the next 12 months. We lose 120 people a day. There's a lot. The number is kidding. So if you want to take down political violence and all gun violence, you just have to have sensible gun reform.

Starting point is 00:48:31 Okay. Yeah, that's it. That will do it. Sensible gun reform is new. Sensible. Yeah. That's probably a new one. You're going to hear it again.

Starting point is 00:48:44 Sensible gun control. I will put it in the book. All right. You got some analysis. Well, first I start with just the NPR overview clip. This is Kirk Killer NPR. Okay. The 22-year-old man accused of killing Charlie Kirk is being held without bail in Utah.

Starting point is 00:48:59 And as Steve Futterman reports, Kirk's widow made her first public comments hours after escorting his body home to Arizona from Utah. Erica Kirk blamed what she called evil-doers for the death of her husband. The movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. Since Tuesday's killing, there have been vitriolic debates in public and on social media between supporters and opponents of Charlie Kirk. The governor of Utah, Spencer Cox Friday, urged people to take a break from social media.

Starting point is 00:49:31 The tone he said must calm down. This is our moment. Do we escalate or do we find an off-ramp? It's a choice. Investigators are still trying to determine if some specific thing triggered Tyler Robinson. he will be formally charged next week. All right. So he will be charged.

Starting point is 00:49:49 Okay, so now I've got two series here. The one is Robinson the Killer. And this, I believe, is from NPR. And this, you'll start with Robinson the Killer Analysis, NPR. The man accused of killing Charlie Kirk is being held without bail at a Utah jail today. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson allegedly fired the single shot from a high-powered rifle that on Wednesday killed the conservative activists. and media personality known for his appeal to young people. Police arrested Robinson Thursday night.

Starting point is 00:50:20 Steve Futterman joins us from outside the Utah County Jail in Spring Fork, Utah. Hi, Steve. Hi there, Scott. So Robinson is being held where you are now. Officials said yesterday they don't believe anyone else was involved. Is that still the case? Yes, however, like any investigation authorities want to go through things like Robinson's cell phone, any computers he used, and they want to speak with those who knew him.

Starting point is 00:50:43 Now, yesterday officials said that Robinson had expressed negative views about Charlie Kirk, and one of those unused bullet casings had the words, hey, fascist, catch written on it. But if the motive was political like it appears to be to some, officials want to know if there was something that pushed Robinson over the edge. Last night, we heard from Charlie Kirk's widow. Tell us about that. Yeah, that's right.

Starting point is 00:51:06 Erica Kirk spoke on a live stream for around 15 minutes. She spoke from Phoenix from the same studio that, Kirk often used for his podcasts. Now, at times her voice cracked, she dabbed her eyes on several occasions, but her main message seemed to be that Charlie Kirk's movement will continue. And Erica Kirk blamed what she called evil doers for the death of her husband. And as police try to figure out Tyler Robinson's motivations, people who knew him, people in his hometown are taking this all in.

Starting point is 00:51:35 What are we hearing from them? Yeah, absolutely. He lived with his parents in the small southwest Utah town of Washington, with a population of around 30,000. It's not far from the city of St. George. We have not heard at least at this point any neighbors describe him as odd or acting strange. People who knew him have told reporters Robinson

Starting point is 00:51:54 wasn't necessarily part of the cool kids in high school, but he was well-liked and a good student. Okay, a couple things. One, now he lives with his parents, according to NPR. So that's... And also that there have been a disparaging comment, which we heard plenty of. Yes.

Starting point is 00:52:14 Ed, the second one, just on a side track, I watched Erica's live stream. I think that if she, because, you know, how many times have we seen it where you have a big movement and the leader gets taken out and the movement dies. And, of course, I saw that in the Netherlands

Starting point is 00:52:34 with Pim Fortin when his party won posthumously as he was assassinated two weeks before the election. in Holland, in Holland of all places. And, of course, the movement became just, you know, without him, it fell apart. If Erica steps up, I think that, I think Turning Point USA actually has a chance of continuing. She's got something there. She can really do this. Maybe, but you're, I think your other example, which is more common, the thing just kind of slowly deteriorates.

Starting point is 00:53:05 Because when you have a charismatic leader that is out, not only charismatic, but is a organizational genius, at least that's the way I see it, it's pretty tough. And the problem with Charlie Kirk is not what he was saying. The problem was people were listening. That's the problem. And to get people to listen to someone, the way they listen to Charlie Kirk, that's tough. That's going to be tough.

Starting point is 00:53:33 Yes, that charisma is a big piece of it. Melissa Tate, a neighbor of the Robinson family, told our colleagues at member station K-U-E-R, that she worries events like this are becoming more and more normal. This is everywhere, every community, every town, every state. It's going to be everybody's neighbor, everybody's classmate. It's not at all unusual anymore. And of course it was Robinson's father who initially confronted his son, telling them that he thought his son was the one being shown in pictures,

Starting point is 00:54:06 released by police. Now, I'm the Utah Valley University. Do we even know that, by the way? That still is not, I mean, I've seen nothing official about this. And I haven't heard any comments, but if you recall the early moments. It was like a minister, a minister had turned him in. Well, no, it was a friend of his. He was one of his buddies that talked to the minister who then talked to him,

Starting point is 00:54:31 and then he was going to kill himself, and the minister talked him out of it, and said you've got to turn yourself in. and then now somehow that completely disappeared from the narrative, completely. Yep. Shown in pictures. To the dad. Yep. Release by police.

Starting point is 00:54:45 Now, on the Utah Valley University campus where Kirk was killed, there's a sense of relief today that someone has been arrested. But Raymond Lopez, a nursing student, says there are still plenty of concerns. My and a lot of our peers, our biggest fear is retaliation or something happening again. Class has been pushed off until Wednesday. I will say that I did sign the petition for him not to come because I thought it was going to incite violence. Sadly, I think that is what happened. You know, I just had another thought

Starting point is 00:55:14 because I got tons of thoughts going through my head about this ever since the 33. I'm like, okay, how many times have we seen the FBI itself radicalize someone online for a year, two years, hyping them up, getting them ready, getting them bomb materials, et cetera. Perhaps just on an off chance, what if, you know, let's hype this kid out.

Starting point is 00:55:40 He'll never, he'll never hit. He'll never, with that rifle, he'll never hit the mark. It'll just be a warning shot. That could also. That's funny because there was some guy on one of the shows that said this is, because there was an argument going on between these people, say there's a professional hit, which we kind of thought.

Starting point is 00:55:59 It was a professional hit. and the other guy says there's no chance it was a professional hit that guy was just a lucky shot well show me the forensics show me the cartridges where all these etchings on them show us anything they one woman that's an ex intel person she said what's bothering her is they have yet did they ever find the bullet that hit kirk she says no one's ever discussed the the bullet where is it it's it's it's a mess this if this was it sounds like a typical botched FBI op, to be honest. It's like, oh, we left too many loose ends.

Starting point is 00:56:36 I don't know. Well, there's a lot of loose ends on this one. That's why I wonder if this guy's going to live through this process. Well, he's in a... And they already dropped the bomb, you know, again, where I'm going to bring it back to pre-programming. In the early reporting that said that the minister had to come in because the kid wanted to kill himself.

Starting point is 00:56:57 Ah, yeah, you're right. Well, he's in a special holding cell where he can't, can't kill himself, you know. Yeah, right. It's got cameras. No worries. No worries. No one can get in or out without us seeing it.

Starting point is 00:57:10 No worries. It would be a tidy way to end this whole thing. It would definitely make it less messy. Yeah. I think it was a third clip here. So is it fair to say now at the Utah unit, reverse the campus, there's a growing memorial with flowers. And the next event we're waiting for is Tyler Robinson to be formally

Starting point is 00:57:31 charge that's expected on Tuesday. At that time, he will make his first court appearance. That is Steve Futterman in Spring Fork, Utah. Thank you so much. Okay. Does he have a lawyer? Where's the lawyer? Don't we usually have a lawyer out there saying something? No lawyer. I haven't thought of that. No lawyer. Now we have a series of clips that are about this expert on polarization. And these are not necessarily, they stem from this shooting, but they're more kind of stand-alone interesting.

Starting point is 00:58:02 And they're called polarization W-T-F, which means I thought they were interesting. That's John speak. That's John speak for Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, wow, that's fabulous. That's fabulous.

Starting point is 00:58:18 Wow, that's fabulous. That's fabulous. Yes, that's what it means. That's it. All right, here we go. Cynthia Miller Idris is the director of the Polarization and Extremism Research Innovation Lab at Oh, wow. Hold on. This is where they make it up. The polarization research and innovation lab? Are they coming up with new ideas here? Yeah, this is on PBS and it just ran yesterday.

Starting point is 00:58:41 Wow. Cynthia Miller Idris is the director of the polarization and extremism research innovation lab at American University. And she joins me now. Cynthia, looking at the pattern of violence in recent years, what fits into that pattern from this and what might be new? we've been seeing rising political violence, rising hate-fueled violence for several years now. We're at a level that we haven't seen since the 1970s. And over the last couple of years, in the U.S. in particular, we've seen rising assassination attempts and assassinations as a tactic within that political extremism. And that's also been happening overseas.

Starting point is 00:59:22 So, you know, I think it's, it was to be expected that political assassinations would continue if we weren't able to tamp down the rhetoric. To be expected, to hear those words is really quite stunning, but you are the one doing the research, and you're talking about the rhetoric, which is a big part of the conversation right now, how much is rhetoric responsible for political violence? And especially that moment where someone isn't just expressing anger,

Starting point is 00:59:47 as we see online everywhere, kind of a toxic culture online, how much does political rhetoric influence someone to move from saying words to doing something violent? Or does it? Yeah, I mean, one of the things we'd seen, and I said this a year ago after Trump, the first assassination attempt against President Trump, was that it was only a matter of time with the kind of rhetoric that we see that we were going to get to political assassination. So, you know, that's what I mean by expected. It sounds very cynical, but it was very predictable, you know, shocking but not surprising is the way that I think of it. Well, I just look this group up.

Starting point is 01:00:25 I don't know if you had time to do that. but the polarization and extremism research and innovation lab is an acronym Peril. Peril Research.com Their initiatives include gendered violence, anti-semitism,

Starting point is 01:00:43 community advisory resource and education centers, i.e. care, and veer the violent extremism, education, and resilience. Let's look at some of their most recent articles August 18th, been a month. Meme coins and misogyny.

Starting point is 01:01:02 What the dildo-throwing trend at WMBA games can teach us. August 12th. CDC shootings highlights risk of public health misinformation. July 29th. Why Manosphere content is appealing to some young men. My goodness. The fact that. that these people have money are funded.

Starting point is 01:01:30 Yeah, by the USAID. Yeah, they should have a podcast at minimum. And, absolutely. That would be a great podcast. I'd probably listen to it. Meme coins and misogyny, everybody. Yeah, meme coins and misogyny. That's a show title.

Starting point is 01:01:44 That's a classic. So the point is that now this person reminds me of the clips you played earlier, of the taproot guy who comes out of, you know, probably Intel. Nowhere. Or nowhere. Yeah. But he's in a milieu. And just let me ask you a question.

Starting point is 01:02:02 Your PBS or your CBS, whatever. And the number one person you call is from peril research. That's number one on your call list. Is that? I would like to know the mechanism for getting on these shows in this way. This is not a minor piece. This is a, I have four clips from it. And it went on for half the show.

Starting point is 01:02:25 Wow. This is a major feature on the Saturday show. Yeah, it's a message is what it is. So there is something going on with that. And the one you played, I think, is the same thing. It was a messenger that was hooked in somehow to the Booker or there's, you know, there's, who knows how some of these things work. I mean, I know how you get on these shows.

Starting point is 01:02:50 You know the Booker producer and you can get on the show, but the Booker producer. Booker rhymes with. I'm telling you. So the Booker producer usually, you know, and you make, and the key, and you know this, and most people have ever done any hits on these different shows, notice that if you make friends with the Booker producer, or one of the lead producers, that's how you do it. You do the show a lot.

Starting point is 01:03:15 You're good to go. Yeah, that's where you've done four Rogans. Six, six Rogans. But Rogan invites me personally. only the first time did it go through was Booker. Yeah, well, once you, yeah, but you got, well, you hooked up with the real Booker producer.

Starting point is 01:03:30 No, he just called me out of the blue. No, that's what I'm saying. He, Rogan, is the real Booker producer. I'm sorry, yes, he's the real. But I don't say, hey, Joe, time for me to come on again. No, but you talk to him and you try to keep in touch to the point where he remembers that you can come on at the drop of a hat, which is the great idea.

Starting point is 01:03:51 Yes. Because somebody's got to be Tony Randall. Or Regis Philbin. That's me. Philbin was not as good as Randall, but Philbin did it too. Yeah. All right. Two.

Starting point is 01:04:03 When you have political rhetoric that consistently positions us versus them in existential terms, when people online are celebrating the assassination of a United Healthcare executive, for example, that kind of violence being valorized, not just seen as a last type of solution. but as an acceptable or even preferable one. That was an outstanding observation, John. No doubt because you saw this, it triggered your memory, but the fact that nobody got burned for celebrating that. That is telling.

Starting point is 01:04:34 There was also celebration. By the way, by the way, I think her use of the word valorized is dynamite. Oh, yeah, that is good. Let's roll that back. Type of solution, but as an acceptable or even preferable one. There was also celebration online of this. assassination. And at the same time, we also know there are some supporters of Charlie Kirk who are using more and more sort of warlike kind of talk. After a tragedy like this, there are all sorts of ways

Starting point is 01:05:03 that people deal with the grief. But where do you think we are right now in the rhetoric about this event? I think we're at a really very risky moment. I will say that the elected officials rhetoric, the bipartisan, mostly bipartisan condemnation of the violence and of, you know, the idea that no one deserves to be shot, no matter how much you disagree with them, I think has been very clear. But among ordinary people, especially young people on social media, we have seen much more divisive rhetoric, both calling for civil war and celebrating the death of the killing of someone with whom people often vehemently disagreed. And so I think one of the things I've been urging people is to not just look to political leaders for solutions, but look across the

Starting point is 01:05:46 dinner table. That's a moment to engage with dialogue and really try to walk back that rhetoric. Yeah, okay. At the dinner table. Okay. Hey, son, stop talking that way. Okay, I've got on with three. One thing I've noticed in the past few days is a rise in conservatives, doxing, or

Starting point is 01:06:06 publishing the personal information of people, individuals who are not remotely famous, who may have in some cases celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk, as you said, that's something obviously deplorable to do. But in some cases, maybe not gone that far, just offended some folks. We spoke to someone from Wired magazine who's covering

Starting point is 01:06:26 this, talking about specifically this moment. I've spoken to multiple people this week who have had, you know, their employment terminated as a result of what they posted online. In some cases, they were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. In other cases, it was much, much less than that. And they were just making points about divisive U.S. society. This has been not just about shaming people, but about affecting their lives. And in some case, we know there's been death threats as well. I wonder what you make of this tactic, not just something a few people are doing,

Starting point is 01:06:58 but people are collecting databases to do this now. Yeah, doxing is a very dangerous tactic from, we've seen it from the left and from the right. And what we've seen over the years is that often when someone is doxed, their personal information linked, leaked, there have been cases where people show up at the wrong address, where they used to live, let's say, and threaten a kind of innocent family who lives there. You're putting at risk family members, children, others who might live at that address.

Starting point is 01:07:27 How about the people who actually are meant to be docks? That's not dangerous? So, you know, one of the things I would really urge people to do is avoid that temptation, whatever the motivation to look for accountability. This is a moment to allow the rule of law, to allow social media policies to handle that. social media policies. It's not social media policies. And by the way, no, what's her name, Lisa Desjardin?

Starting point is 01:07:56 She goes on, she's all upset about this, but she never has said Jack about doxing, you know, the ice guys. No, of course not. Or any police, for that matter, who have to wear masks because these guys come up to him. But again, again, what they're all missing is the fact that all of these people did it because they felt comfortable. they thought everybody is on,

Starting point is 01:08:17 everyone's on board. Everyone agrees. Isn't this, this is the, the weak-mindedness of certainly our educators that, oh, I mean,

Starting point is 01:08:27 everyone thinks this. I've told my children this, everyone knows this, all my colleagues, are they all believe it? You're not going to get an argument for me on that regard. The fact that they are comfortable.

Starting point is 01:08:39 Comfortable, yes, comfortable. Talking about some guy getting killed is pathetic. well they didn't well you know what they didn't get in trouble with luigi that's that's part that may be part of the mechanism for all we know john yeah if it's pretty schemy if that's true it's very little outrageous i it's hard for me to believe they're that good but you know it's always possible now the last clip is the last clip they convinced us we went to the moon so you know it's like anything's possible oh yeah there's too you got two more

Starting point is 01:09:15 clips here you got oh you got trump you got trump uh the trump stuff now trump let's see well kirk trump reaction and analysis is what i have uh that would be last oh okay i think i don't think let me look at these the third the third was the last one that was the last robinson the that was the last oh right no there should be polarization for dud yep there is now the reason i call it wait i'm just going to give a heads up so they go on and on this goes on forever and they this is how they finish it and i'm what listening to this and says, wait a minute, that you go through all, you make us watch this crap for this period of time. I'm doing this, by the way, in advance of this clip, because

Starting point is 01:09:53 you're going to do it if I don't. This is a, they dud out on us. In a few seconds we have left here, we've seen these moments in history before where we have assassination attempts happening over a decade or two decades kind of thing before. But I wonder, you mentioned people need to talk to each other across the dinner table. What else gets the country out of moments like this. VACs. Well, one of the things we really need is more serious and systematic investments in prevention, which is something that other countries have. We in this country tend to rely on after the fact increases in security, better barricades, better security detectors, and

Starting point is 01:10:32 that's expensive, and it requires a perfection every time. But you can also invest in helping people be less persuaded by propaganda online, less persuaded by manipulative efforts that say violence, is the solution and help people know how to recognize warning signs and know where to get more help. Cynthia Miller Idris, thank you so much for joining us. All that was missing was her saying, therefore, I recommend listening to the best podcasting universe, the no agenda show. So you will not be radicalized that easily. You know, the funny irony to that last bit in the commentary is that the United States really can't afford to let people think for themselves that much because the entire advertising model for selling products requires it. Oh, our entire system, we've been through

Starting point is 01:11:26 this. The system, yes, the entire system. I'm just thinking of advertising, but the system requires you be gullible. Well, not just be gullible, but be outraged, the constant state of outrage. That's how our media works. That's how our politics works. That's how our social media works, which is why people are getting all of, you know, your algorithms are showing all the things that are going to get you mad. And the Chinese model, which soon will go away whenever President Trump figures out how to make an American, TikTok, you just get everything you want. There's no, you know, Facebook does this. They all do this, like inject stuff, inject stuff, inject stuff, keep you busy, keep you on there. and that's our that is that has always been our model yeah so you get what you pay for

Starting point is 01:12:10 which is nothing oh junk Chinese junk it turns out to be currently junk okay so I got the yeah right I forgot about these clips this is another I don't know I guess all my clips are analysis clips this show but Kirk Trump reaction this is this is this is kind of funny because they're just doing they just do everything they can it's Trump's fault by the way We're going to take a few minutes now to look at how President Trump has handled all of this. At difficult moments for the nation, it's often the role of the president to deliver meaning, resoluteness, and calm. Think of George W. Bush in the immediate wake of 9-11 as one recent example. This week, in the hours immediately after the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

Starting point is 01:12:53 President Trump took a different approach. He blamed his political opponents. Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives. Trump said his administration would be coming for people and organizations that contribute to political violence. And P.R. Senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith joins us now. Hey, Tam. Hey, Tam. Hey, Tam. Hi, Scott. You have covered Trump for a long time. This is, unfortunately, far from the first violent political act that he has had to respond to his president. So how does this handling here compare to the other times? Trump and members of his family were quite close to Charlie Kirk. So this attack was personal for Trump.

Starting point is 01:13:33 His response was immediately partisan. Compare that to what happened after the shooting at a congressional baseball team practice in 2017. In that case, Republican lawmakers were targeted by a man who had been a Bernie Sanders supporter. But in a scripted address, Trump took a very traditional approach and said the nation is strongest when we are unified. We may have our differences, but we do well in times like these to remember that everyone who serves in our nation's Capitol is here because, above all, they love our country. And, Tam, we have to talk about a big factor here. The president himself was shot at last summer that rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Starting point is 01:14:16 Remind us of his rhetoric after that assassination attempt against him. Yeah, it was interesting because a lot of his supporters were really fast to blame left-wing rhetoric, but Trump was more restrained. Okay, what's interesting about this clip is there's a little modicum of truth in there. where the president said he was going after those that finance it. Yes, yes, exactly. That's a little different than going after political opponents. Yes, but the whole, yes.

Starting point is 01:14:46 Yes, yes, yes. The beginning of the clip is a fallacious argument and a false analogy. He starts off by saying, look at how Bush handled the 9-11 thing. what 9-11 wasn't an attack by the Democrat Party or or common leftists that was attacked by a foreign entity or whatever or whatever we're going to go with sticking with that. We're going to go with the cover story. So we're going to go with that story. So Bush isn't about to go and start blaming the leftists. I mean, it's not going to happen. And he says compare that to Trump. That's not a comparison. What are you kidding me? So you start at the very beginning of the presentation with a fallacious analysis. And now,

Starting point is 01:15:29 and you go from there, but meanwhile, it's just stuck in the person's brain. We have this, in other words, the preconceived conclusion is already planted if you don't catch it right away. This is like a pathological liar talking to you. If you, if you get you. What? The media pathological liars? What? If he gets you early, then he'll start to reel you in. And that's exactly what happens with these guys at NPR do this all the time.

Starting point is 01:15:59 And in that case, the ideology of the shooter who was killed by police is to this day still quite unclear. His list of potential targets included Democrats and Republicans. Like we said, unfortunately, a lot of examples to pick from. But I do want to ask about one recent example. A lot of people have brought up this week. And that's the targeted attacks on Minnesota Democrats this past summer that killed former House Speaker Melissa Hortman. How did Trump respond this summer after those shootings? Hortman and her husband were murdered.

Starting point is 01:16:29 another democratic lawmaker was gravely injured. It was a targeted attack. Trump posted about the attack on social media saying such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America. But he didn't get into the partisan nature of the targeting. And he hasn't really mentioned it since. There was no conclusion on that as far as I can recall. It wasn't partisan. No, no conclusion.

Starting point is 01:16:53 There's no evidence of that. It was probably a, yes. this is again, so what they've done is they've already lied to you at the beginning with a false analogy. And then they're starting to reel you in and then they they start to drop phony bombs in the middle so they can make the point that Trump's a bad guy. Yeah, he is. I mean, is it fair to say that he just downplays it when violence comes from the political right? Yeah, let me give you another example. In 2018, a Trump supporter who sent explosives to Democrats and also CNN,

Starting point is 01:17:29 was taken into custody. President Trump responded by praising law enforcement and criticizing the media for mentioning the suspect's political affiliation. He said the media was using the sinister actions of one individual to score political points against him and Republicans. Yet what a Bernie Sanders supporter tried to murder congressional Republicans and severely wounded a great man named Steve Scalise and others, we did not use. use that heinous attempt at mass murder for political gain because that would have been wrong. So in 2018, he was saying a partisan response to a terrible crime would be wrong. But in this case, with the murder of Charlie Kirk, Trump is quite firmly sticking to his view

Starting point is 01:18:18 that Democrats and harsh rhetoric on the left are to blame. You say quite firmly, is it fair to say he has not softened his rhetoric since the alleged assailant was taken into custody? Right. He was on Fox and Friends yesterday, and Ainsley Earhart gave him an opportunity to offer a unifying message. How do we fix this country? How do we come back together? I'll tell you something that's going to get me in trouble, but I couldn't care less. The radicals on the right, oftentimes they're radical because they don't want to see crime. They don't want to see crime. So take that and then compare it to the way he describes the other side. The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're very very.

Starting point is 01:18:57 and they're horrible and they're politically savvy. And in this way, Trump is like so many others in this polarized country who think their side is essentially fine and it's the other side that's evil. The difference, of course, though, is that he's the president of the United States. He has all the power. I want to take this for me to a conclusion because we need to end this at some point. We can just go on forever about this. And this, you'll roll your eyes.

Starting point is 01:19:27 But that's okay, because you're used to it by now. Almost 18 years. That's right. So when President Trump talks about those financing this, and we talked about this the other day, and you put the blame on people like Soros, as an example, the Open Society Foundation, which clearly is one of his financial motives

Starting point is 01:19:49 is to destabilize a currency, a country, anything to hedge. He's a hedge fund guy. and that's so it may not even be that he's one of the greatest currency traders in the history of investing and he may not even be doing it that much for ideological reasons more than financial i mean that's possible we don't really know much about him other than he's kind of creepy and it was there was this one brief moment in kind of the fog of post this assassination when uh and the clip is not why

Starting point is 01:20:26 distributed. I was able to find it. You know, it's like on places where, you know, you have that, this is a media, so they have like an audio watermark. So I was able to find a version of it without that. It's only 50 seconds. Oh, that sucks. I found it without that. This was Hannity, which if it was just Hannity, I've been like, okay, whatever.

Starting point is 01:20:47 But it was also John Solomon. And John Solomon, I think he's pretty good with his investigative sources. because this is all sources. And this came out, and I haven't heard about it since. I have a source in the intelligence community, John, that said that there might be post-assassination, pieces of a puzzle that might be put together, that there might be a foreign component to it. Again, we don't know for sure. I know it's being discussed.

Starting point is 01:21:20 Have you heard the same thing? Yes, there is a group or two of interests that are in the Salt Lake City. area that they're looking at just because of certain recent activities overseas and certain intelligence shared by a foreign friendly from the United States doesn't necessarily mean that it is connected to the shooting. I suspect, though, it's going to result in some action, even if it's not tied to the shooting. But there is a small foreign component that's being looked at. Again, all leads are open. I don't think they've locked into a final theory of the case hit. Just thought it was interesting? Like, huh, okay. Now, immediately. Yeah, I actually saw that.

Starting point is 01:21:56 Yeah, what was your thought? My thought was that they're trying as hard as they can to blame Israel. And this is kind of a roundabout way of doing it. And I say that because that meme is floating around. I think it's silly, but it's floating around. And it even came to the dinner table because J.C. and Jesse both had some thoughts on this that involved Israel. and he also had a couple other memes that he picked up on and one of my favorites, which I observed too,

Starting point is 01:22:30 even though thinking about it, I realize it's not really impossible to tell. But when the kid jumped off the roof and landed like a paratrooper beautifully, by the way, from a two-story building, I can't jump off a two-story building. Not anymore. Back in the heyday, you could. I'm not absolutely sure I could ever.

Starting point is 01:22:50 But he jumps off the building, lens perfectly and then runs, is it, where's the gun? Where's the gun? Because he supposedly ran with the gun. But you couldn't see the gun. But that video was enhanced, and enhancement can easily take the gun out of the picture. He could have been running with a gun for all we know. So I'm not, I like the idea that people have all observed is, where's the gun, where's the gun?

Starting point is 01:23:13 Because he's running like a maniac at high speeds after jumping off the building. And there's no gun that he went to, with a towel around it, that he did. ditched um and that is suspicious but at the same time that when you do video enhancing it's easy wipe stuff out i mean i can you know you you've done it yeah but you're you're floating away from the topic the topic was a foreign entity well yeah i'm just saying that that came up at the conversation but they also they would they were thinking is real and it was like okay i don't know where you i don't know where it's oh it's it's around and and it's around yeah it's around because people hate Israel. Well, and the reason the younger generation, actually Charlie Kirk had a roundtable on

Starting point is 01:23:58 this, which I listen to, I won't play the clips, but he had a roundtable. He was asking them. And what it came down to was, we're pissed off because we can't afford our rent yet we're sending money to Israel. The fire is here, why you're trying to put fires out there. And that's an although that's a misunderstanding of appropriation of money because it's very little compared to you know, other things the U.S. government spends its money on. But the secondary part was interesting, where they said, well, if people are going to call me an anti-Semite for saying that for being upset with sending money, supporting Israel with, you know, whatever they, Israel does with the money, which, you know, is killing Palestinians,

Starting point is 01:24:42 bombing Qatar, et cetera, maybe drawing us into wars. Then what these, what the Gen Ziers are saying is, and Charlie Kirk agreed with them because he's, you know, almost of that, he's a little bit older, but he's close to that generation. He said, well, you know, if I'm going to be accused of the crime, I might as well do it. But that's not where I'm going with this. I certainly kept that open on Thursday, like, well, could this have been some retaliation? By the way, Israel is not the same as the government of Israel in my mind. Bebe Netanyahu has a lot of issues.

Starting point is 01:25:14 But it was, and this is something that Mo tried to explain to me, and I understood theoretically what he was talking about. And for 100 episodes of MoFax with Adam Curry, he talked about the white supremacy. And he was always taking it back to Europe, to the European families. And that was, it was not a color, it was a system. And someone sent me this video of these two women.

Starting point is 01:25:41 They're older. When I say older, I'm 61. I'm like, man, I hope I don't look like that when I'm 65. but they're probably in their mid-60s. This is one of them, Susan Kokinda, and they have this group called the Prometheus, what is it called? Prometheus action. And as I was listening, it kind of dawned to me,

Starting point is 01:26:05 like, let's just say this was an operation to destabilize America, destabilize possibly the president's agenda, which I think it actually had the adverse effect. I think the enemy always overplays this. hand. But if there has been a destabilizing factor throughout really, certainly the last 10 years, but maybe forever in the existence of our country, these ladies are very, very articulate. And I have two short clips, both a minute each, just to introduce this to you. And I'm going to be staying on this. This is going to be my new, is going to be a new theorem for me to stick with.

Starting point is 01:26:46 What if I told you that Donald Trump's biggest enemies are not the Obama-Clinton-Biden networks, whose heads are on the line in the Russia Gate revelations, or even the deep state? But it's the European monarchies who have never stopped their war against the American Republic. Most people think that this is just politics. Republicans versus Democrats or maybe America versus the globalists. You see the daily battles over Ukraine funding, Fed policy, or the environmental regulations as separate issues. Even Trump's supporters often miss the big picture. focusing on individual bad actors or policy disputes.

Starting point is 01:27:19 But what we're fighting is a system, properly named the Anglo-Dutch system. And what we're witnessing is unprecedented. An American president waging direct war against the very Anglo-Dutch system that we fought the American Revolution against. Trump isn't just fighting globalists. He's taking on the European monarchy and oligarchy, led by the British monarchy and its Dutch and European partners. This is what's been bleeding America dry through its central banking. system, its environmental death cult, and its endless imperial wars. I'm Susan Kokinda, and I've been tracking this imperial system for over five decades. I've documented how these same royal

Starting point is 01:27:57 families created the Federal Reserve, launched the environmental movement, and started every major war. So she had my attention. I'm like, huh, that's interesting, mainly because since you're a Dutch and lived in England. Yes. I'm like, huh, okay, continue, please. Today, I'm exposing three fronts in Trump's war against the European oligarchies. First, how King Charles and the Dutch are desperately keeping Ukraine burning. Second, how Trump's economic policies are dismantling their centuries-old ideology of environmental destruction. And third, how his Fed battle strikes at the very heart of the financial empire that's ruled the United States since 1913. So why is the Ukraine war continuing when Trump has a clear mandate to end it and he wants to

Starting point is 01:28:43 and the killing because of the empire's stranglehold over Europe. So look at this. The very first European country to pony up almost $600 million in arms purchases from the United States to keep the Ukraine conflict going is the Netherlands. 600 million. That's a small country. This is the Netherlands, as in the Dutch half of the Anglo-Dutch imperial system. And the other European countries that immediately jumped in, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. Notice something? They're all monarchies.

Starting point is 01:29:15 You can use your favorite AI to look at the ties between these royal families and the British monarchy. So I don't need to use AI because I know the history of the monarchies. And as I'm thinking about this, I'm like, where did Trump's Russia problems really stem from? The Steele report, Christopher Steele, former MI6 agent. We have British journalists showing up in our news all the time because is that just because they sound authoritative?

Starting point is 01:29:46 Robert Maxwell, very interesting if you tie that into Jalais Maxwell. Yes, he was an agent, they say, for Mossad, but he was also an MI6 agent. This was the big thing, is that he was a double agent. Soros started his career with banks as part of the city of London, the big banks, ING group, Dutch, HSBC Holdings, operating from British colonial Hong Kong, Barclays, J.P. Morgan Chase,

Starting point is 01:30:16 not mainly primarily American, but it has Anglo roots. Rutgers University, Columbia University, Hofstra, Harvard, Cambridge, Yale, pharmaceuticals, Glaxo, Viatris, AstraZeneca, media and publishing, Reed Elsevier, now it's the Relics Group. Thompson Reuters, where most of our news comes from,

Starting point is 01:30:40 is, you know, regurgitated from Reuters. Education, Pearson, publishing giant in education. Energy, shell, BP, retail consumer goods for advertising. Ahold, Dutch, big corporation, Unilever, Dutch, U.S., Dutch, British. ASML, big part of our chip manufacturing. I just had never really considered. particularly seeing now what the EU is doing and how badly they want war and what President Trump, if you look at it in that light and he says, I'm going after the people that are funding

Starting point is 01:31:21 all of this stuff, it put my head in a different space. And I can't make any conclusions. I don't know if you're rolling your eyes, but I'm like, you know, there's something to this. And I'm going to go down this rabbit hole for a while. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm pleased this punch that Adam is back to his crackpot status, which will improve the show to no end. People have always bitched and moaned about this, and now it's back. Well, I can't just do it on demand. I like it, but hey, I'm not rolling my eyes at all. I think it's great.

Starting point is 01:32:00 Well, thank you. Kind of unexpected, but the thing that got me was crazy. Christopher Steele. That, that report, that's what started it. No, it's a confluence of a whole bunch of things that Christopher Steele is a trigger. But that those women, and when she says she's been doing this for 50 years, I believe she probably has been, and she's probably so deep, deep down in the hole that should provide some very entertaining segments for the show. Yes, well, you're going to get them for sure.

Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah, this is great. This is what we needed for the second half of show. I'm not going to put it in second. Look at the first big casualty of Epstein information being released. UK ambassador to the U.S. Mandelson.

Starting point is 01:32:52 One week before President Trump is scheduled to go over there and have some kind of meeting. It's very possible. You know, his background is Scottish. We've actually had clips on this show that indicate that the, British in particular. I never thought of the Dutch as part of it, but okay. The Dutch are one of the

Starting point is 01:33:11 largest, the Dutch are one of the largest investors in the United States. But the British in particular have always been trying to run games on us. They hate us. They never got over it. They hate us. They never got over it. I believe that to be true. Now, they've never gotten over the fact that in fact, if you read, I've always noticed this because I'm a book collector. Among us, other things. And so I have a lot of history books that were written between 1860 and 1910. And there's a lot of history books written in there. And after World War I, these books all changed. But before World War I, these history books, you can read, you can find any old history book and start reading about the British. And the hatred and vitriol that is expressed in these history books

Starting point is 01:34:05 is unbelievable. It was just we hated them and hated them and hated them until they suckered us into World War I and then all of a sudden the propaganda machine got into play we had the Bernays phenomenon

Starting point is 01:34:19 we had all the public relations all this came into play. Bertrand Russell and the next thing you know right Bertrand who's British and the next thing you know we're big British Austin Powers

Starting point is 01:34:29 Austin Powers big troublemakers Anglophiles after hating and hating and hating and hating on them for over 100 years. Hey, who brought us the slaves, the Dutch? Yeah, that's true. Who

Starting point is 01:34:42 who waged war on China with the opium wars? Yeah, and we're paying the penalty for that. And who has an opioid problem right now? Where are these precursors made? Could that be one of the big pharmaceuticals?

Starting point is 01:34:58 There's a lot of open questions. I'm all, I'll be all in on you doing this. Well, you just, you're You're a new beat. It is my new beat. And the other thing. So get off Fox.

Starting point is 01:35:09 There was, oh, no, I'm, you're the, you're the Fox guy. I'm not really on Fox. It was, ah, when, when Putin and Xi and Modi, they all got together and it wasn't really played up much, but there was, from what I understand, there was talk about building energy projects in Russia with, what's our, Westinghouse? which doesn't seem like you're anti-American if you want to build an energy project in Russia with Westinghouse. But it was the finance minister. I haven't been able to find it yet.

Starting point is 01:35:46 But he posted two pictures, like meme pictures, like AI generate, like no agenda art generator stuff. And one was with, you know, like the panda bear and the Russian bear. And what do you have? What is India's symbol? What kind of animal do they have? what's a good question i forget what it is somebody in the chat when we're and so they had those three and then one underneath it adding the united states and had the u.s flag and it was which one would you prefer and i'm just thinking you know how trump really wants to do business with russia

Starting point is 01:36:25 president putin i got a great relationship with him president g i got a great relationship with him. Modi, good guy. Okay. He's impressed with Modi in a different way because if you recall during his first term, he went to a rally. Yeah, the big rally in the in the stadium. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:36:46 And it made Trump's rallies look like small potatoes. And Trump had these massive rallies compared to everybody else. Yes, he loved it. He loved it. And he was so impressed with it. Wow, how do you do this? Hundreds of thousands of people in this massive stadium. So just for a moment, I'm just imagining, what if President Trump is completely savvy to this?

Starting point is 01:37:10 He's known this from the get-go, and this would be the 5D chess that everyone talks about. And he's like, how do we bring down? Because remember, Swift is not run by the Federal Reserve. Swift is run out of Brussels. the bank of the city of london they're the ones that screwed up the dollar with the trade that kind of you know that necessitated all kinds of changes to the financial systems the 4x trade you know special the libor scandal which screwed up our interest rates all of these things all came out of the anglo-dutch monarchy organizations i got to come up with a bitter acronym these ladies have the anglo-dutch system is no good Yeah, it sucks. It's like the lymie gutta head system.

Starting point is 01:37:57 Whatever. We'll come up with something. I'm working on it. But what if he really wants to team up with India, China, Russia, and bring those Brits down and those flatlanders once and for all? Well, you always get the impression, especially during when Trump was out and Biden was in and even before Trump, that Putin has been aware of some. something like this. Yeah. Because he acts like it.

Starting point is 01:38:27 And he always, he was blaming for, he says, you know, people are getting suckered into this and that and the other thing. And it's possible that Putin is clued in. I mean, it's perfect for the show.

Starting point is 01:38:38 Let me just put it that way. It has a lot of legs. It's a bottomless pit. Yes. Working up for 50 years. Four more years. 50 years. And so,

Starting point is 01:38:50 yeah, I'm totally. Totally a subscriber to these sorts of things. And so if you're talking about it just to briefly bring it back to Charlie Kirk, if you're talking about some kind of professional hit with a Patsy that is meant to destabilize America's youth, our political system, when you have people fighting each other, that's how you conquer them. It's obvious.

Starting point is 01:39:16 And the fact that the president said, I'm going after the people who finance it, that's, I'm like, okay. And that's clearly, the Soros clearly is from the UK banking system. And by the way, these people don't care about the Brits either. They do not care. They just care about the empire. And you know, we've been watching,

Starting point is 01:39:38 we watched the Gilded Age, where all of the, you know, it's actually a lot of the Dutch were in New York early, you know, the New Amsterdam. New Amsterdam, the Driesman's. This is the early rise of J.P. Morgan. And, of course, after that, we went back and we're watching Downton Abbey, which is actually quite enjoyable, mainly from the historical perspective.

Starting point is 01:40:02 And you just see, like, yeah, man, I can't believe these Brits. We kicked their butt, and that was it. The pride went away. I don't believe it for a second. Not from these families and the monarchies and how everyone's connected and inbred. And it's only 250 years ago. That's not very long. Amsterdam was the center of, they invented the stock exchange.

Starting point is 01:40:25 They invented the whole concept. They invented the Ponzi scheme or the, I'm sorry, Tulip Mania. Ponzi scheme, I think, was invented in Italy. Yeah, the bubble. They invented the bubble. So all of these things, if you go back and we never, we never taught this in school. We never go back far enough into history to even think about these things.

Starting point is 01:40:47 Merca, yeah, Burs 7076. No, it's because to kids, you work. World history is boring, but my experience with history and people who teach it, it's not boring. In the least, it's the teachers who are boring. Yes. So this kind of fits in with this latest move by the president against the NATO allies. U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday called on NATO allies to stop buying Russian oil while also threatening China with massive tariffs for its own purchases of Russian people. In a social media post, Trump called the oil buying by some NATO members, shocking,

Starting point is 01:41:28 saying it greatly weakens the alliance's negotiating position. Russian Federation, while attacking... His comments come just days after Russian drones violated Polish airspace, prompting NATO to launch a new Eastern century deterrence program. drone-type objects into Polish airspace. The remarks also follow last month's summit in Alaska between Trump and Vladimir Putin, which failed to achieve a breakthrough on ending the... the war. Several NATO members, including Turkey, Hungary, and Slovakia continue to be major buyers

Starting point is 01:41:56 of Russian oil after the invasion of Ukraine. Trump also repeated his claim that the conflict is Biden's and Zelensky's war and would not have occurred if he had been president when it began in early 2022. So President Trump is saying, yeah, sure, I'll do sanctions. You guys stop buying their oil, which would cripple them because we all know that they're buying Russian oil. it would cripple them. So this seems like a, like a sl- By the way. That's a pretty good trick.

Starting point is 01:42:25 By the way, I was just thinking, wouldn't it be so typical for the... And when I say Anglo-Dutch, I'm talking about the Dutch people or the British people. I'm talking about the Anglo-Dutch system. To get everyone to blame it all on the Jews, you can just see them laughing about that.

Starting point is 01:42:41 We got them to blame the Jews for it. They're bankers. Yes, exactly. And the Rothschilds are involved. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wouldn't it be fantastic? Yeah, I don't think they're going to do that. Well, but it's happening. It's happening. No, I think that's a big. I don't know what's going on there. I think there's an explanation.

Starting point is 01:43:03 Well, here is. I don't think they're blaming the Jews. I think they're really out. There's something about Netanyahu they have to deal with and they don't like him. Or there's that too. There's a lot of things not to like about him. He's not a player, probably. Here is a little too short clip breakdown from my boy, Andrew Rassoulis, on Trump's message here that is, hey, you stop buying your oil, then we'll put some sanctions on. Joining us now is Andrew Rusoulis, retired official of the Department of National Defense. Mr. Rizulis, welcome. What do you make of Trump's calls today on NATO allies?

Starting point is 01:43:40 Do you think it could make any difference on Russia's stance at this point? Well, I don't think it'll even get there because it's a very weak statement. It carries a very large if, and the if is all European countries stop importing Russian oil. Now, that means chiefly Hungary, Slovakia, and Turkey, which import vast amounts of Russian oil. Their economies are dependent on cheap Russian oil to now expect that they will do Trump's bidding and stop with the sort of underlying understanding that the Americans will then put some undefined sanctions on top of all the other sanctions they put on Russia and somehow bring the war to an end. I think this is a very illusory statement by the president.

Starting point is 01:44:32 I don't think there's much to it. Yeah, well, because it's a troll, basically. And, of course, we don't want to know how this might affect China if it does it all. What about China, who he directly called out, what sort of impact could tariffs have there? Well, exactly. I mean, he did on India. He did on India, and it had no effect. The Indians have said, forget it. We're going to continue to buy Russian oil, despite the tariffs imposed on them by the United States. On China, it's a very different degree. The Chinese import the most of Russian oil. And the Americans depend very much on China. trade bilaterally. So if they impose tariffs on China for goods entering the United States, this will have a significant impact on the American economy and American consumers.

Starting point is 01:45:25 So Trump has never actually followed through on this. He's been saying that this is, this is been going for weeks now, but he's pulled back. So because that is impractical. So basically there are very strict limits as to what the United States and Europeans or Canadians can do. do to actually affect the Russian economy. Yeah, he doesn't actually want to. Now, through this new lens, he doesn't want to do that. We want to screw those guys over there.

Starting point is 01:45:52 And I think if you were to flip the bricks on its head and make it the A-bricks, America, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, we'll just add them in there, which, I mean, hey, boys, guess what? We're all going to use this stable coin over here, Screw those Europeans with their digital euro. Q. Lagarde.

Starting point is 01:46:17 One year on, from the release of Mario Draghi's report on the future of European competitiveness, it remains essential to follow up on its recommendations with further concrete action and to accelerate implementation in line with the European Commission's roadmap. Governments should prioritize growth-enhancing structural reforms and strategies. investment while ensuring sustainable public finance. It is critical to complete the Savings and Investment Union and the Banking Union to an ambitious timetable and to rapidly establish the legislative framework for the potential introduction of our digital Europe.

Starting point is 01:47:03 Too little too late, baby. You can't catch up. Stable coin is here. It's much more. fun to look at the world this way. No wonder people want to leave Britain. Oh yeah, it's getting bad.

Starting point is 01:47:20 You saw the protest? I have a clip. Okay. Let me see. London. Huge protest. Easy to find. A far right protest turned violent in London today. Vicky Barker has this report from the British Capitol.

Starting point is 01:47:39 Chanting anti-immigrant slogans and waving flags, though marchers, more than 100,000 police estimate, filled the streets of central London. And they heard the anti-immigrant anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson tell them to savor the moment to feel their strength. You are part of a tidal wave of patriotism they're sweeping across this country. Britain, he said, has finally awoken. A few thousand counter demonstrators from the group Stand Up to Racism held their rally a few hundred yards away. It was like 100,000 versus it looked like a thousand. Yeah, that's what they said in the report, 100,000.

Starting point is 01:48:26 And then, of course, I even mentioned the other group is only, you know, one, one hundredth. The way, you guys are racist. Yeah, who had the professionally printed signs, the smaller group, of course. But meanwhile, some of this. Pressure may be having an effect, and this is why a war economy is needed. This is why we're going to, well, we'll get into Eastern Century. France is teetering. France's sovereign credit score is at its lowest level on record.

Starting point is 01:48:59 Previously rated A-A-minus, the country has been downgraded by one-notch to A-plus by credit-rating agency Fitch. The agency explains this is a consequence of continuing political instability. They say the government's defeat in a confidence vote illustrates the increased fragmentation and polarisation of domestic politics. This instability weakens the political system's capacity to deliver substantial fiscal consolidation. In its report, Fitch paints a grim picture of the state of France's public finances. According to the agency, the deficit is expected to remain above 5% next year, and debt is expected to rise to 121% of GDP in 2027. up from 114% today.

Starting point is 01:49:43 For this economist, the downgrade has limited but real consequences. The impact of this downgrade is a lower quality debt, meaning certainly an increase in risk that could continue, and so this concretely means for France an increased debt burden, which means a higher level of interests that it repays each year. The outgoing Minister of the Economy, Eric Lombard, has taken note of Fitch's decision. The new Prime Minister, Sebastian Le Corneux's mission is to present a budget that's acceptable to the opposition.

Starting point is 01:50:15 Both those on the left and the right have opposing ideas of how to balance France's books. These divisions will make a consensus difficult to achieve. The difficulty is you don't have your own money anymore. That's the difficulty. Once you went on the euro, you can't inflate your way out of a crisis like this. Yeah, the Greeks taught us that. Yes, austerity measures coming to France and there. not going to like it and then we have a yeah and we have a new well the french revolt all the time so

Starting point is 01:50:45 this could be like the fifth republic or whatever number it is they're up to but it used to be cool you know they cut off heads and stuff it was still do that well they could they could get back to it we have a new a new actor on the scene um the supreme allied commander europe of nato who i've I don't think, I can't recall this guy ever showing up. And there he is, next to Mark Ruta. And, well, here we go, everybody. Eastern Century, we've activated it. Yeah, so a couple of comments.

Starting point is 01:51:25 I have issued the order tonight for Eastern Century to begin. The order went out as this press conference began. And so operations are being brought together immediately underneath my authorities as SACUR. Now, it will take some time for us to bring everything together with the new contributions that have been coming in, and we'll continue to work on this and refine the design of the operation moving forward, but it begins immediately. I'll just make one comment on the Dronewall Secretary General. This is very in line with some of our thoughts of fortifying our eastern flank from a land and air domain perspective, and just coming back from the Baltics, the number of

Starting point is 01:52:05 states are making investments in technologies, learning lessons from Ukraine about what kind of sensors and what kind of weapons kinetic and non-kinetic might be effective. And so integrating those sorts of defenses into our daily deterrence activities and into our regional plans is absolutely going to be something that we want to do moving forward. Okay. So why is this guy standing next to Mark Rutter? Because he's part of the sales team. They brought in the closer. This guy's like, hey, uh, you all want to get your, uh, your Eastern flank all squared away. We're going to help you, but you need new gear. You need to buy some gear from us. Do you think it was a highly successful operation intercepting the drones that we did with

Starting point is 01:52:46 the Dutch F-35s and the other assets that contributed to that? As successful as we are, we always learn something in the debrief, as we would say, in the fighter business. Here it comes. And so we are always looking for ways to enhance, to learn from the smallest tactical error, to how we're approaching certain problems. And in my judgment, the scale of the incursion the other day was obviously larger than previous incursions that we've had. So bringing additional resources to bear on this problem will help to solve that. So that's why we're starting this operation the way we are.

Starting point is 01:53:23 I'll also highlight the comment I made about working with Allied Command's transformation and Admiral Vondier. That is an effort to ensure that we get lower-cost weapons that we can use to defend ourselves to make this a sustainable operation over time. And as Secure, one of my responsibilities is to make sure that we don't just defend today, but that we're set up

Starting point is 01:53:45 to defend tomorrow. The last comment I'll make is, when there's a fighter pilot that's in the air or someone on the ground who's defending the alliance, I don't want them thinking about how much their weapons cost. I want them defending our citizens. Yeah. Yeah. Don't

Starting point is 01:54:01 think about cost, boys. Don't worry about it. Fire away. By the way, Fox 1, Fox 2. Oh, yeah. By the way, it turns out these were not Shaheed. These were Geraan drones, which pretty much are unarmed. They are autonomous. It's funny.

Starting point is 01:54:20 One of the reports did say Shaheeds. No, I know. Initially, we heard Shaheed, but I got a lot of people who know what they're talking about email. I mean, these are Girond drones. And then this morning or yesterday, there was a bunch of incursions over Romania. Yes. I think I actually have a clip of that. Hold on. Yes, here it is. It was two F-16 fighter jets like these that detected a drone in Romania's airspace. The Romanian Defence Ministry says the jets were patrolling near the border following Russian airstrikes on Ukrainian infrastructure.

Starting point is 01:54:54 At 1823, F-16 aircraft detected a drone in national airspace, which they tracked to approximately 20 kilometers southwest of Chile-Aveche, where it disappeared from radar, the drone did not fly overpopulated areas and did not pose an imminent danger to the safety of the population. It's the second breach of NATO airspace in just a matter of days after Poland said it shot down several Russian drones earlier in the week. In response, the alliances beefing up its defences with a new operation dubbed eastern sentry which aims to reinforce its eastern border with Belarus, Russia and Ukraine. The US has also vowed to defend every inch of NATO territory.

Starting point is 01:55:32 This shouldn't happen. I don't think anybody's happy about it seeing happen. You saw NATO respond to it appropriately. We don't want to see it happen again. We think it's an unacceptable and unfortunate and dangerous development in this regard. With tensions high, Poland's Lublin Airport temporarily closed on Saturday after a drone alert was issued. Meanwhile, Russia and Belarus are pressing on with their joint operations near the Polish border, known as Zapad 2. The two countries had already carried out similar exercises back in 2020. 21, just months before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Full-scale invasion. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more genius this is starting to look. Like, bleed them dry of all their money for, not for today's war, but tomorrow's war. You don't want your boys in the sky thinking about what it's going to cost. I love that. You don't want the great sales pitch.

Starting point is 01:56:24 You don't want fighters to be thinking. You don't want those guys to be. They begin making this as a consideration. trying to save money for your government. Yeah. No, you don't want that. You know, the French are shutting down their nuclear power plants. No.

Starting point is 01:56:42 Yes. Oh, yeah, they've decommissioned. The French are all, the whole country is run by those nukes. No, I think they shut down two of them already. No, they may be for maintenanceers. I can't believe they're going to shut any of them down. Well, the Germans certainly did. And Germans did.

Starting point is 01:56:56 They're stupid. But that's the green agenda. They've turned it on the, themselves. And we're going to screw them with their money, with the stable coin. We're taking away the, you know, LIBOR is gone. You don't control that anymore. Now we just got to get those mainly the city of London oriented banks who are, you know, not to be named in the Federal Reserve, get them out of the picture, which Bessent is, they've got plans. Now, this is get very, well, if Trump can keep himself alive, you know, they don't put those James

Starting point is 01:57:30 Bond movies into your mind for nothing. Yeah, we got our agents, they can kill anybody, you can get anybody that they can get their man anytime they want. But we'll make them look like Austin Powers so you don't, you're not pre, you're not, you're not clued in to what we're really doing.

Starting point is 01:57:46 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think we're on to something. Yes. The, oh, this, uh, see, I,

Starting point is 01:57:58 actually there was a kind of doubling back but coming back to technology which is obviously some by the way how about all those European Union finding finding our companies billions of dollars yeah well that's been going on since the entire

Starting point is 01:58:17 show yeah they hated they hate our technology they started with Microsoft years ago then Google and then now meta and then Google again because they hate our influence they want to control It's a gouge. It's a rip-off. It's a simple rip.

Starting point is 01:58:31 They don't hate us. They love us. They can get all these billions of dollars for doing absolutely sitting on their ass. Well, that's true. Let's sit on our ass and do nothing. And then, oh, no, you get fined. Why would they hate us? Sounds like a podcast.

Starting point is 01:58:45 Let's sit on our ass and do nothing. Yeah, well, it's most podcasts. Not this one. So obviously now we have to, this is your girl, Kristen Welker. and that's why I have the clips from Meet the Press. And she's talking to the governor Spencer Cox. Spencer Cox. Is that the guy?

Starting point is 01:59:08 Cox, the Utah governor? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a very, he's a very politically savvy guy. He could run for president. Well, what I'm reading, a lot of people think he is a proverbial rhino, a Republican in name only. and you certainly don't want this guy as president. Listen to his thoughts and his ideas about online and radicalization. Governor, I want to ask you about something you said on Friday.

Starting point is 01:59:36 You said, quote, there was a radicalization that happened in a fairly short amount of time. How was the suspect radicalized? How quickly did it happen? By the FBI, by the MI6. I mean, this radicalization can happen from anybody, people. Well, again, those are pieces of information that we're still getting. gathering, trying to understand. We do know.

Starting point is 01:59:58 And again, is he an intelligence all of a sudden this guy? Yeah, we're gathering this. You know, the funny thing is he looks like he's from intelligence. He has that look. He does that have a right. Now, as you mentioned, he has an intelligence look. He looks like a spook. And he says the right things.

Starting point is 02:00:12 And when they bring up some of these radicalization programs, you know, the intelligence people are the ones who could, you know, they got all these, you know, quantico and all these people to do a personality analysis and they know your weak spots and they can come in and convince you of something that's not going to happen. Like you have a whole group of them down there in Fredericksburg. They think, you know, the grid's going down or whatever they want to try as a joke. Yeah, exactly. They sigh up our people here.

Starting point is 02:00:42 He is, of course, in Utah, he is, I believe he is, yes, he went on mission for the, so he's a Mormon, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. and by the way that's what you're supposed to say they don't like the word Mormon no they don't that's why I said Church of Jesus Christ of Latternays but I appreciate what you did but I just pointing that out to the audience yes but they are very deeply entrenched in intelligence they have records on everybody

Starting point is 02:01:13 didn't Ancestry.com start with them I think you might be right yeah they yes because they because they have the belief as a religion that they can baptize you in death. That's right. That's right. Which is appreciated, but it's okay. I already gave it the office. It's not appreciated by everybody.

Starting point is 02:01:35 I gave it the office. I don't need it anymore. There's information that we're still gathering, trying to understand. We do know, and again, this has been well publicized, but this was a very normal young man, a very smart young man, a four-o student, I think it's a 34 on the ACT, went to How does he know all this stuff?

Starting point is 02:01:56 I haven't seen any of his his scholastic record. Yeah, that came out. Okay. 34 on the ACT went to my alma mater, Utah State University, but was only there for a very short amount of time.

Starting point is 02:02:11 I mean, it dropped out after less than one semester. And it seemed to happen kind of after that. After he had moved back to the southern part of Utah. Clearly, there was a, there was a lot of gaming going on. Friends that confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, the Reddit culture and these, these other dark places of the internet where, where this person was a second. I take back what I said about him being a

Starting point is 02:02:43 potential presidential candidate because of this interaction he's going through right now. He is using a scattergun style of talking. So it's not smooth. He's not smooth. I mean, when he gave his prepared speeches, he sounded very presidential, but here's not, he's all over the map.

Starting point is 02:03:01 He can't, he doesn't have a structured flow. It doesn't come off well. No. So, no, he's out. No, he's, but, but, you know,

Starting point is 02:03:09 and also Utah has all the big data centers. And he plays. There's some in Colorado. Yeah, I know, but Utah, well known. well known he's a fan of the band the killers okay it was kind of that that deep dark internet uh the the the the the reddit culture and uh these these other dark places of the internet where um where this person was was going deep and uh you you saw that on the on the casings i think i mean i didn't

Starting point is 02:03:37 have any idea what the what you saw that on the casings again we didn't see anything he's stammering like a maniac, which he's stammering to the, to the extent that makes me think he's not being, he's not being honest, yeah, was going deep. And you saw that on the, on the casings. I think I mean, I didn't have any idea what the, what those inscriptions, many of those inscriptions even meant, but they are, you know, certainly the memeification that is happening in our society today. By the way, this podcast, the No agenda show is only available on the dark web. Governor, I want to delve into some of the messaging that we have. heard from you. Lawmakers, governors of both parties across the country have frankly

Starting point is 02:04:21 praised what we heard from you on Friday. Your unifying message. You said you see this as a watershed moment. How can this nation step back from the brink, governor? So he was so good. From the brink. He was so good that you even kind of fell for it until you heard this interview because he was good. He had a, you know, a message that was needed. at that moment, but we needed some details to. So look, this is, you mentioned it in the introduction, but we have seen an escalation. What was that all about? Well, it starts right away with a laugh tell.

Starting point is 02:04:59 Let's listen to her lead in again. And by the way, I resent the fact you said that I fell for it. Well, I don't know. Because I did, but it's beside the point. It's not, by the way, I need to apologize for something, not for the. that comment I just made. Well, what would that be? What else did you say about me that you need to apologize for?

Starting point is 02:05:21 It was not about you. No. I said something about Brennan. Oh, yes, Brennan. Brennan and Jay were quite upset about you calling him. As I recall, the exact word was a deadbeat when it's anything but he's a very responsible. And by the way, he's an Eagle Scout, if anybody cares, but a lot of Eagle Scouts out there. And a very responsible person.

Starting point is 02:05:43 and it was, I think, actionable insult. Well, it was meant as a joke, obviously. Well, Mimi noticed it was kind of a joke. Well, of course. You make these offhanded comments. It was a joke coming from the love you have for the family. Yes. And it came in a conversation where you were making fun of Mimi's voice.

Starting point is 02:06:04 So I'm like, it's fair game now. But I apologize. That's not true. Okay. I'm sorry. No, that's right. It was right before you called me. And I wasn't making fun of her voice.

Starting point is 02:06:16 Her mic voice is a very sexy voice she's developed. I called her out on it later. I call her. I said, where are you developing this voice? Because she wears the cans and she doesn't like her voice. And so she's working on this bull crap voice. It sounds terrific. She could get at work doing that voice.

Starting point is 02:06:34 It was right before, right after you called me a bigot and before you called me an egomaniac about the sound of, my own voice. So, yes, I, yes, that's true. But, okay. But I'm fair game. I'm fair game. I'm fair game.

Starting point is 02:06:50 Instead of your normal attack of me, you went after poor old Brennan. It was, I, I said it because I know that, you know, because of the departure of what company left, of the Chevron, right? Chevron. Yeah. So I'm sorry. Of course. And by the way, I remember Jay when.

Starting point is 02:07:09 It's sweet of you to apologize to Brennan. Yes. And also to Jay. because they're married and I'm sure she got, and she didn't mention anything to me, but this got back to me, and so I'm really sorry. I've known Jason she was 15

Starting point is 02:07:22 and I love her working with us and she does a terrific job. And Brennan's a good guy. I've never met him, but you like him so that automatically qualifies. So I'm sorry, this is what you get when you only listen to the No Agenda show once in a while. You haven't

Starting point is 02:07:38 heard all the other stuff we talked about you. So I'm sorry. I really. I think that they should be listening to the show. Jay was listening to the show with more consistency. And Brandon listens once in a while. He was listening in the car, I guess, when you insulted him. And, but they almost go out. They should listen to the show.

Starting point is 02:07:59 I don't understand this. Did they almost drive their Tesla off the road? Driving a minivan. All right. Onward. Unifying message. You said you see this as a watershed moment. how can this nation step back from the brink governor so look um this is uh we you you mentioned it in

Starting point is 02:08:21 the introduction but we have seen an escalation in violence that has been happening across the country we've had periods like this in our past history i've mentioned before in the late 60s and early 70s certainly we saw these types of uh high profile political assassinations another dark time in our history um people keep waiting um for you know somebody to lead us out of this. And I think that's a mistake. I don't think any one person, certainly not a governor. I don't think a president. I don't think anyone can can change the trajectory of this. It truly is about every single one of us. And I can't emphasize enough the damage that social media and the internet is doing all of us. Cox for president. Those dopamine hits. These companies,

Starting point is 02:09:08 trillion dollar market caps, the most powerful companies in the history of the world, have figured out how to hack our brains, get us addicted to hold on a second. Stop. So what social media company has a trillion dollar valuation? I can tell you what companies have. Meta?

Starting point is 02:09:27 Meta? I don't think they have a trillion dollar valuation. They close. Not a market cap. Okay. I know Apple does. But that's not social media. That's not social media.

Starting point is 02:09:36 I think Amazon comes and goes. I think Microsoft for sure. Yeah. But those aren't social media. media companies. The social media companies to me are... Make no money. Like X.

Starting point is 02:09:47 Well, no, they make money. I mean, META makes money. Yeah. Meta is a good example. But I don't think... I'll look it up, but I don't... That'd be the only one possibly with a trillion dollar market account, but I don't think they have it. They're not the most powerful companies in the world.

Starting point is 02:10:02 And they're not? No, I agree. They're not. And people who are on these platforms like Twitter or Blue Sky, your favorite or any of these other ones. I went on Blue Sky the other day. hadn't been on, I had to reset my password, hadn't been on there in months. That guy who yells at me every day is still yelling every day, every day, every day. One guy. No, I'm not on that.

Starting point is 02:10:24 You should take some of these clips and take some screenshots and read them because you know the guy. He's got a certain kind of voice that you can emulate perfectly. Okay. But let me finish these clips and then I'll give you some joy. figured out how to hack our brains, get us addicted to outrage, which is the same type of dopamine, the same chemical that you get from taking fentanyl, get us addicted to outrage and get us to hate each other. I'm seeing it in real time since the tragic death of Charlie Kirk. I'm seeing it in every corner of our society. The conflict entrepreneurs are taking advantage of us, and we are losing our agency, and we have to take that back. We have to turn it off. We have to get back to community, caring. about our neighbors, the things that make American great, serving each other,

Starting point is 02:11:14 bettering ourselves, exercising, sleeping, all of those things that this takes away from us. Okay, you want to hear some of this guy? Well, first I want to mention about this, this idea of taking social media away. Does he understand what's going on in Nepal? Exactly. You really want to be careful taking this is the one thing we've warned of. Don't even take TikTok away. We'll be rioting.

Starting point is 02:11:41 We'll finish these. This is, he's going to make a great little comparison here. If you could compare social media to anything bad, what will you compare it to? If I was going to compare social media to something bad, I compared to war. Well, Governor, you referred to social media as a cancer on Friday. That's an incredibly strong word. Do you believe that social media played a direct role in this assassination? I believe that social media has played a direct role in every single assassination and assassination attempt that we have seen over the last five, six years.

Starting point is 02:12:17 What happened to gaming? Come on, man, you afraid? There is no question in my mind that cancer probably isn't a strong enough word. What we have done especially to our kids, it took us a decade to realize how evil these algorithms are. and we're doing everything in Utah, first state in the nation a couple years ago to pass comprehensive reform. Sadly, these most powerful companies on earth are suing us to prevent us from implementing these things.

Starting point is 02:12:48 Okay, by the way. And we believe we... Yes. Well, this is the funny part. Okay, before you, I'm just going to say, meta, $1.8 trillion. Okay, I was way off. So this is the funny part

Starting point is 02:12:58 where he's talking about social media companies and I guess he's on Zoom and then he gets cut off. years ago to pass comprehensive reform. Sadly, these most powerful companies on earth are suing us to prevent us from implementing these things. And he's gone. And we believe we just lost our connection with Governor Cox. There, you heard him speaking very forcefully against it. Trying to drag it out to get him back. He never came back. But you know who did come back for the final clip? Mayor Pete. I mean, you heard Governor Cox refer to social media as a

Starting point is 02:13:33 cancer. And the question, I think, becomes what to do about it. Do you agree with that assessment? Is social media actually a cancer right now, Mr. Secretary? Let's get some consensus. And is he still allowed to be called Mr. Secretary? Yeah, that's a protocol allowance, yes. Well, and, and of course, Secretary General outpaces Mr. Secretary any day. Yes, people should. The next show is it show 1800. People should contribute their $500. piece and get those secretary generalships in for the next show. It's going to be a long, hopefully long donation segment. Social media is clearly part of the problem in a big way. And it speaks to something that's

Starting point is 02:14:15 even bigger than the political polarization of this moment. Although I think the internet has played a role, but it's more than that. It's what is it doing to our brains? Look, every time there's one of these killings in a summer that began with the assassination in June of a Democratic lawmaker by somebody with a kill list of Democrats and is ending the September with the assassination of a conservative figure. And you go back through so many other cases, political and not of violence. There is not a consistent pattern of left versus right among the shooters, but there is a pattern where we see so many of these people are men, usually young men, who seem to spend more and more of their time in dark and

Starting point is 02:14:58 twisted corners of the internet. And I think there is a sickness, not just the same, sickness of somebody who would pick up a gun and shoot someone. But I think a broader societal sickness that, frankly, I think you could see and feel in how many people around America, normal people, not dangerous people, were in a moment when we all should have still been praying for the victim and his family, were busy online praying for some shred of evidence that the shooter would turn out to be from the other political team. That is not healthy and that is not a way forward.

Starting point is 02:15:31 but that is exactly what the algorithm pushes us to do. Wow. There's some agenda here. There's some agenda at play. Yeah, there's too much of, too much. Anti-social media. Well, there's anti-social networks. There's, yeah, the meta's $1.8 trillion.

Starting point is 02:15:52 I didn't realize it was that much. Silly you. There's something going on. They're trying to do something. I think it's to implement censorship. before some event or to try. There's a censorship play. They want digital ID, man.

Starting point is 02:16:09 Digital ID in the dark corner, dark corners of the Internet discord. That's been a push for the push, but they're not going to get it. We're going back to bulletin boards, people. I got five lines on my BBS. I remember, yeah. People would have, the phone companies were making out like, Bandits during that era.

Starting point is 02:16:34 Because you'd get 10 lines into your house. That's right. And you have your modem bank, you know, the whole night going off. Yep, click, click. A bunch of phone coming in. Relays going. It's like a boogie operation.

Starting point is 02:16:46 Yeah, running on a single 286. Ah, good times, everybody, good times. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Cox for President. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. All right. Yeah, well, in the morning, you present,

Starting point is 02:17:07 I'm going on our shipers, ring around, feeding the air, subs in the water. And all the names are nights out there. Yo, yo, in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello, troll. Oh, we're doing good now. 23, 28 at the peak.

Starting point is 02:17:21 There you go. We're almost back at our 2,400. I know you say it's 25, but I think 24 is where we actually were. And these trolls are checking us out on the troll room. You can get there by going to know AgendaStream. You can log in there, an IRC client, or get yourself a modern podcast app and never miss a single live show. Always get updated within 90 seconds.

Starting point is 02:17:42 Oh, by the, did I tell you that now Apple, it looks like they're going to be adopting yet another podcasting 2.0 feature? Which one? Chapters. Chapters. So we've had these, well, some people call them super chapters, cloud chapters. Dreb Scott makes them for us and they're portable. So you can, you know, that's why you see them on noagendashow.net. You see them in the podcast apps and you don't have to bake them into your file

Starting point is 02:18:11 because if we did that, we'd have to wait hours before even being able to publish the show because we'd have to figure out all the chapters first. And so now you just publish the show and then the chapters are done. No, and then, you know, Dreb sometimes listening in real time and it just hits the button and boom, the chapters are there. So it looks like Apple. is going to do that, which is good because I, you know, of all the legacy apps, I think Apple is probably the one that has the chance of innovating. Everyone else just sucks. So podcastapps.com.

Starting point is 02:18:45 Man, 1,79 episodes of the No Agenda show. The next one will be our big 1800, our 18th anniversaries coming up. And all these years, we've been doing it value for value, which means we just give you the show. There's no barriers to entry. It's like free speech. You literally get our speech for free. However, if you want to continue receiving that speech, all you have to do is from time to time, whenever you feel you've gotten some value, enough value, more than enough value, send it back to the show. If everyone did that, you never hear us complain. And we're not complaining because we're still here. Then we enjoy it. We enjoy doing this as a public service. support us in many ways. Organizing meetups. Did you have a meetup on Saturday?

Starting point is 02:19:36 In fact, I did, and I have the results from the meetup, which will be coming up shortly. Oh, good, good, good. I didn't get a meetup report from the Port Angeles meetup. I was expecting a, hey, everybody, or Mimi. Hi, everybody. Hi, it's Mimi with a cans on. Yeah, everybody. She's got a good pair of cans. Wow. Okay. What? Yes, you got a good pair of cans.

Starting point is 02:20:05 I'm isoing. That's perfect. Also, you know, boots on the ground, people sending clips. Everything is incredibly appreciated. And one thing people do is, you know, I'm slowly giving up on the idea that we could, that I can fight artificial intelligence by myself. I can't, so we'll just wait until it all collapses. Oh, bonus clip time. Bonus clip.

Starting point is 02:20:31 Bonus clip. Ready for a bonus clip? This is a special donation segment clip. I'm on Pins and Needles. So we were laughing on the last show about Oracle. How there, I think you said, this is even more ridiculous than Pets.com. That they're pretty-you said that. No, I better bought a Pets.com.

Starting point is 02:20:51 You said, no, no, it's much worse. By a fact. I could have said that, yeah. Yes, a factor of 10, you know, expecting to go from... It's a big operation. Pets.com just died on the vine. But going from $14 billion in today's revenue, which missed their quarterly revenue and profit targets, to 2029, which is only three and a half years away, where the Oracle expects to have $149 billion in revenue.

Starting point is 02:21:19 And everyone went, oh, wow. Well, our fine friends over there at. CNBC have figured out how this is going to work and what is powering the AI spending spree. You're going to love it. Shares of Oracle today falling a bit following that 35% surge yesterday on its massive revenue backlog, and we now know where the majority of that revenue will come from. It's open AI, that $300 billion deal for compute power among the largest cloud contracts ever signed.

Starting point is 02:21:52 Our McKenzie Sagalos has more on that in today's tech check. Hey, Mac. Hey, Carl. So I have been speaking to VCs out here in Silicon Valley about how OpenAI is now bankrolling the AI trillion dollar club. And they're trying to make sense of this loop, the sky-high fundraising, spending so fast that it clogs, supplier backlogs, and pumps up the market caps of legacy giants who have rebranded themselves as an AI play. Now, one investor telling me that the real story is the power struggle with Nvidia, saying that Open AI feels threatened and wants to diffuse the dynamic by making some of its small. rivals a lot stronger. In the last week, Open AI has fired two shots in that direction, a $10 billion broadcom partnership to build a GPU rival, and then this massive Oracle deal.

Starting point is 02:22:36 Both are meant to spread leverage across the stack. Now, other VCs were marveling at Sam Altman Sprawl. One investor saying that he is really trying to out Elon, Elon, pointing to his custom chip ambitions, and that top secret consumer device being built in a lab under Johnny Ive. Skeptics say the spending math does not work. Most VCs are priced out at a $500 billion valuation. They say that sovereign wealth and Middle East capital is keeping this entire ecosystem afloat. Another VC underlined the tightrope that everyone is walking here. The numbers look impossible on their face, but the constraint is compute and energy.

Starting point is 02:23:15 So yes, it is a gamble for these hyperscalers. But that trillion dollar capx wave has to happen in order for this AI thesis to close. clear. Now, the next test is whether Open AI can lock in more funding and nail its agentic strategy in order to deliver on that $125 billion revenue target for 2029. That will be key to turning Oracle's backlog into cash. We just need more money. If you can just give us more money, we're going to make so much money. You're going to be so rich. You're going to get, leave your wife rich money. It's going to be fantastic. Just four more years of money. this is fantastic.

Starting point is 02:23:55 Larry Ellison is actually quite smart. He's just going to let those guys raise the money and he's going to take it. No, no, Larry's always been smart. But this is, but this, it's like, hey, you know what? Enjoy your art generator while it lasts, everybody. Enjoy everything. Every minute. This is the time to get it while you can.

Starting point is 02:24:16 Yeah, get it while you can is right. You know, and we're doing a good job of exploiting it. this art generators that all the art that we're getting and the songs even and yeah and the clips of the end of the show occasionally uh yeah it's all free someone said to me hey um the can can can we make a deal like i'll give fifty dollars to every artist who creates art that's chosen that isn't a i generated i'm like just give it up man forget about it just give it up just Give it up. Bite the bullet.

Starting point is 02:24:47 Give it up. Bite the bullet, exactly. Blue Acorn came in with a win. It was a good piece. You know, we ping pong back and forth in a couple of things. Yeah, this wasn't my favorite at first. No, I forgot. There was one I liked.

Starting point is 02:25:03 I forgot what it was. Well, first let me talk about. Oh, I like the robot cops. Yeah. So this was the Statue of Liberty yelling at a pudgy uncle Sam, asleep with his teddy bear. say, wake up, break up, which, you know, people liked it. You know, it could be taken in many different ways.

Starting point is 02:25:20 I also got a note from, from our Ria guy, and he's, who did the, the logo, the logo, the Austin logo deconstruction. He says 100% Photoshop. He says no AI involved. No, no. He said Illustrator. Oh, Illustrator. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 02:25:36 Yes, Illustrator. Sir Shug. Yes, Sir Shug. There you go. Fodiddley, that's it. so here on this particular art in fact he eschewed Photoshop in favor of illustrating he made it pointed he did he did no so robot cops yeah I it just didn't do it for me I mean I was kind of a dark image it was rather dark would have we talk about anything else that we kind of like I mean dark in terms of luminosity yes and and which we which brings up the point that some people you get these things you you hear us complaining, or us, mostly Adam. He's always moaning and groaning.

Starting point is 02:26:16 Adam has a thing about these, this orangeish art hue. Take the art and take a, pull it out, drop it into Photoshop and, and, and break it up. Yeah, brighten it up. Yeah, do some work. You can do that.

Starting point is 02:26:32 It's not that hard. No, they can't. They see it. They're like, make it brighter. Make it bright, like that cat. Make it brighter. Prompting, prompting. so anyway you also like the xylophone well i like the simplicity of it but it was a little you actually

Starting point is 02:26:50 you think said too simplistic which is that's nico sims xylophone yeah and then you're like oh man i love these evergreen logos the one with no agenda with the microphone and the headphones yeah over my dead body that's like the most over i use it for the newsletter the most overused elements of any podcast logo no i'm not arguing that You're just a bigot. That's a bigotry. You should look up the definition. Okay.

Starting point is 02:27:18 I don't have time for that today. We have the bigotry. I have my bigotry is gruesome art. Yes. I refuse to accept any sort of gruesome art. Very bigoted against gruesome art. And I have, and the reason for that is because it's associative and I don't like it.

Starting point is 02:27:34 Yes, I know. I know. Thank you, Blue Acorn. Very happy with your piece. And no art generated. dot com everybody can participate it's easy kids just go to your favorite a i r generator make some up it still needs still needs a good idea without a good idea you can't get there so there's that and of course we always like to thank the people who supported us with financial

Starting point is 02:27:58 value for value we thank everybody 50 dollars and above you can keep score at home and uh we have a special bonus for those fortunate enough who are able to uh just like hollywood by the way i mean you can pay your, what is a movie ticket these days? Is it 20 bucks now? No, it's at least that. You used to be five, then it was seven. I remember what it was like a dollar. We had a Nickelodeon and we were happy.

Starting point is 02:28:23 Now, what was the thing called? What was that, where you put a penny in and kinoscope, rotoscope, what is it called? I don't. You got me. You know. No, I don't.

Starting point is 02:28:35 You were there. I was, but I don't remember. It was like a, we still had those things. at Riverview Park in Chicago. Yeah, and you'd be looking through it. Yeah. So if you are fortunate enough to support us with $200 or more, we'll give you a title, a Hollywood credit,

Starting point is 02:28:54 which is an associate executive producer, and we'll read your note. And if it's $300 above, you become an executive producer of the No Agenda Show for that episode, and we'll read your note as well. And, of course, you can use these anywhere Hollywood-style credits are recognized. that would be your LinkedIn, your blue sky, put it in your profile,

Starting point is 02:29:12 your blue sky, that'll get you lots of friends. Or you can put it on IMDB.com, which will make you look very official for putting it onto your resume. And John is going to start us off with our first executive producers, which I believe these are from the meetup in Albany. Give us a meetup report. Yes, I went to the meetup. It was actually in Oakland.

Starting point is 02:29:33 Oh. At violets, violetta pizza, violetta. And that's where Violet, the sucker baby that we first brought into the topic of conversation, she's been a show promoter herself, the little girl, for the last six years. And she was at the event. And this was at violetta's pizza. And I have to say, besides being, besides being very generous with the free pizza and free tallow fries and whatever else anyone wanted to order. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 02:30:07 that the owners of Villal, a pizzeria violetta, and there's two of them, there's one in Piedmont and one at the Prescott Market, uh, is, is, is Jonathan and Sarah, and,

Starting point is 02:30:20 and their daughter, Violet was there. The, and she comes up to me, and Violet comes up, she's a fan of the show. She's been listening to the show forever. Oh.

Starting point is 02:30:30 And she comes up and she looks at me, and she's very furtive. And she's, you know, she's looking at me something. Fertive? Fertive, yeah. What's furtive?

Starting point is 02:30:37 What's furtive? It means it's like, you know, she's like semi-anxious and she's because she's got something to say. Oh, yes, furtive, okay. Like a little kid. She comes up and she looks at me and she goes, I'm six, which cracked me up. But it turned out to be a backstory to her doing this because she didn't get called out for her birthday a couple weeks ago by the parents who never sent us a note. Oh, no. And so Violet was irked about the fact that she wasn't called out.

Starting point is 02:31:06 And I have a note. I'm six, she says to me. And she's the cutest thing, by the way. And here's the note from Jonathan and Sarah. And they, besides giving us the hospitality, they donated 33333. Very nice. So thanks for getting out of the house, they write. Great to chat.

Starting point is 02:31:32 I know Baroness Sarah Rupert and Sucker Baby, Violet, love the. meetup. Trap baby, not sucker babies. I always call it trap baby, but then I was called out by meme. He says, that's actually the sucker, but should be sucker baby. Okay, whatever. One of the two. There's a note here.

Starting point is 02:31:49 Appreciate the praise of the pizza. Yes, they do make a tremendous product and reluctantly making a pineapple pizza. And here's a make good birthday wishes. Violet was very upset to not hear her name on the podcast. So she's on the current, she's currently on the list. So she's going to be called out today. And other donors, since we're going to do a little meetup report, we have 8-0-08 from Sir Fast. I can't read the island of boobs, 808.

Starting point is 02:32:30 John and Adam, thanks for what you do. Is this Sir Fast-Ablardi? No, it says Fast. Oh, fast Eddie of Alameda. Oh, there you go. Okay. Thank you. 235 from, uh, this is from Sir Lawrence of dystopia, baronet of Maxwell

Starting point is 02:32:49 Park, Kilo, Oscar 6, Echo, Juliet, Echo, 73s. Yeah. And he came in with, well, he says it was 335 cash. Oh, plus fees. Well, I counted 235, but maybe I'm wrong. I'll just assume it's 3.30, 335. He says, I hope this finds you well. I have three Ask Adams.

Starting point is 02:33:16 Answer the questions, go. Okay. One. Yes. In the troll room, who determines if you get karma for a comment that you make during the show? Well, that rarely happens. That's never happened. I can't remember a time, actually.

Starting point is 02:33:35 Two. Yeah. In the song, Der Commissar, after the Fire Falco, 1982 song, is Der Comissar a euphemism for a drug dealer? No. Falco was Austrian, so he had all kinds of militaristic vibes. Okay. Last question.

Starting point is 02:34:00 Yes. In the song, Adam, the DJ questions. Is the song A. E-I-O-U sometimes why, 1984 from Eben Ozen, is Lola a man? Yes, Lola is. Obviously, Lola is a man. I met her down in Old So-Ho.

Starting point is 02:34:24 Asking for a friend. If you meet Lola, be warned. She's a dude. Thank you for your attention to this matter. God rest Charlie Kirk, and may God bless America. God bless America, absolutely. That was an entertaining note. Okay, onward with the rest of these donations. Like these ass out of notes.

Starting point is 02:34:44 These are good. These are good. We got $200 from Robert Montoya, Black Knight of Pleasant Hill. That's just 200 bucks. That's that. 200 bucks from J-C-S-S-W-Sheen-Swisher, J-J-A-Y-C-E-N, and she says, St. Ives, nice meeting, nice meeting you. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:35:15 This is some sort of trust. It's $200. It's just a check with no other longer note. And then another one, which is from recalcitent, Rcalcitrant, Steve, our buddy, 5150, and, of course, he comes in. And that, I think, covers the basis. Very nice. And you have to do Dame Janet of T.

Starting point is 02:35:36 Yoming because you also have the note for her donation of $750. I have to grab a different pile. Okay. So here we go. This is, this is an interesting note. This is $750. This is the next donor,

Starting point is 02:35:55 which is named Janet of TP Wyoming. And she wrote a card, actually. Okay. Keep up the good work. Okay, we have a nighting. This is a switcheroo. I think it's on there. This is a switcheroo.

Starting point is 02:36:14 She writes, Donate, she's got to, you know, this is a very interesting anomaly with her. She has unbelievably pretty and readable longhand or cursive. And her printing is hard to read.

Starting point is 02:36:30 And she print this. Donation to bring my, it looks like sucking hot husband, but I there you go. I think it is. Smoking hot husband Bill to the knighthood, night

Starting point is 02:36:46 night something or rather to be determined, or the night name to be determined later. Okay. We have them on the list, but he's going to change it maybe. September 15th will be married for 41 years. Hey, there you go.

Starting point is 02:37:02 And no one I'd rather be on. 41 years. Holy moly, it never had a fight. On a journey with, then, Bill. Wow, wow, wow. We both love the show and have news, and we love the newsletter, especially the memes and hypocrite of the week. It's a, it's a fan favorite.

Starting point is 02:37:23 Keep up the great work. Then she says he'd like Opus 1 and spaghetti carbonara at the round table. Yeah, I got it all ordered for you and all set up. I'll take the next three just to move things. long? Sure. Benjamin Malnar in Rapid River, Michigan, $500, no note. So you get double up karma. And I believe you will be a secretary general by default. You've got Karma. And we have Matthew Bush from Newport Beach, California. $350 and $58. Also no note that we can find. So for you also a double up karma. You've got.

Starting point is 02:37:59 Double up. Karma. And there he is, Sir Scovey from Charlotte, North Carolina. Carolina. We thought we'd heard the last of him on the last show, but no, he comes in with his standard 333.33.33. And he says, make good matching donation alert. John Adam and fellow producers. In the morning to Robert Kaminovsky for the donation to show 1797, I should have matched that donation based on the chronological order of donations. May I culpa, Robert, and thank you for your courage, he says. That concludes this matching donation campaign, which he went above and beyond the matching campaign, which is... Yes, he did. as a matching donor is what you do, and we appreciate it.

Starting point is 02:38:38 But he says, it's done for real this time. Thank you to the eight producers, signing off with a reminder that acts of kindness and generosity are always needed. Do what you can as often as you can. Love and Light was signed, Sir Scovey. Thank you, Sir Scovey. Beautiful. You can let's read the next one because they have a note. Well, this is from about 90 miles to the east of me, Georgetown, Texas,

Starting point is 02:39:04 Randy Wallen. And he says in the morning, 333.33, please support the George Pastor Foundation. Pastor was an Austin SWAT officer killed in the line of duty on November 11, 2023 during active shooter hostage rescue call. To honor his legacy, Pastor's wife Kim established a foundation to provide financial resources for first responders for advanced training, wellness, and community engagement. The foundations of 501C3 and all staff are volunteers. You can support the foundation financially by donating through its website, J.PastorFoundation.com.

Starting point is 02:39:38 That's Pestor with an R&E. You can also support the foundation by taking part in its annual fundraiser, the Humble Warrior Games, live on November 9th at Revel Peak Ranch in Burnett, Texas, or virtually, if you are out of the area, registration can be found on the website. Again, J.PastorFoundation.com. Thank you, says Randy Wallen from Georgetown, Texas. Okay, now we have... Another notes.

Starting point is 02:40:06 Sir Optimus, yeah, this is the last one. Except I will mention that I have pushed off two donations. Kim of the Nutty Fluffers and Archduke of Central Florida have been moved to show 1800 for logistical reasons, and I should note that they're expecting to be mentioned today. And you'll see what that's all about next show. Okay. So we have a note here from Optimist.

Starting point is 02:40:32 Mysterious. Yeah. Optimus. God bless you both. Rest in peace. Charlie Kirk. Sir Optimus. Simple.

Starting point is 02:40:42 To the point. They're beautiful. Kevin G. Mobile, Alabama, 233.99, which I believe is a 222.22. So a big row of ducks processing fees. Sir Kevin G. of the Lake Lanier boaters here checking in after three years of retirement on 922. We've traded the lake life for salt life. down to Mobile. That's Mobile, not mobile. Alabama. A solid red state, no longer just puttering, Adam's word, around the Georgia Lake Lanier on my yacht. What a life. In April this

Starting point is 02:41:14 year, I took an eight-day trip down the Tennessee River to Mobile. I'm now traveling the ICW, in your coastal water, visiting new ports of call. If the Perj Committee could please update my title to Sir Kevin G. of the ICW, thanks for your attention to this matter. Consider it done. encloses my annual retirement donation a full row of ducks, 22.22 plus processing fees and a hearty call out to all douchebags who listen religiously but never donate.

Starting point is 02:41:41 Dooshbag! Love your work, love is lit and all that shit. No exit strategy. Hashtag no exit strategy. All the best, Sir Kevin G of the soon-to-be-updated ICW, formerly Kevin G of the Lake Lanier boaters. The librarian in San Francisco comes in with

Starting point is 02:41:57 2-2-2-2-2 and writes for Charlie Kirk and for all the truth-tellers like Adam and John. Love and hugs from the librarian in San Francisco. Eli, the coffee guy is here with 20914, always hitting the date 914, Bensonville, Illinois. And he says, after the news of the past week, the hits just keep on coming. Whether developments in the Charlie Kirk assassination,

Starting point is 02:42:22 drones in Poland, AFD politicians dropping like flies, revolutions in Nepal, to riots in Serbia and citizens taking to the streets of London, One might think the world has gone mad. I urge everybody to keep calm and get back to basics. Just remember good old-fashioned Americanism will save the day. Blue jeans, mom, apple pie, steak, potatoes, hot chicks, and cold beer.

Starting point is 02:42:47 And of course, good old-fashioned coffee. Visit gigawak coffee roasters.com and use code ITM 20 for 20% off your order today. Stay sane. Stay safe. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. Yeah, and we finish with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, 200. Jobs Karma. Skip the AI templates.

Starting point is 02:43:10 Okay, okay. Skip the AI templates. Skip them. For an executive resume that gets results and tells your unique story, visit ImageMakersink. com, that's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Starting point is 02:43:32 You've got karma. Well, thank you all very much for your support of episode 1799. You could have waited until 1800, but you didn't, and I appreciate that so much. Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers, and we'll be thanking the rest of our value-for-value donors in the second segment, which will be coming up in a little bit, $50 and above. Remember to support the show by going to noagenda donations.com. Our formula is this.

Starting point is 02:43:59 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shut up, slave. Shut up slave. Bead-be-be-de-be-d-be-d-be-d-be-d-be. Hey, I got a PM question time. By coincidence. What does that mean?

Starting point is 02:44:24 Oh, Prime Minister. Oh, you have one? Yeah. Oh, we haven't done that for a while. We need to go back to it. Well, it's your beat, so you need to go back to it. But I do have one to whet your whistle with. This is a doozy. Prime Minister Question Time.

Starting point is 02:44:39 Listen to this. Thank you, Mr. Ficker. Vaccinations were invented in Berkeley, my constituency, 230 years ago. And as a GP, I have jabbed literally thousands of children and adults. Would the Prime Minister update the House about our new rollout of chicken peck? vaccinations, which will further protect our children. And would he also agree with me to condemn other political parties that give platforms for people who spread false rumours about vaccination? Well, my honourable friend speaks with great authority, and I'm proud that Labour are protecting

Starting point is 02:45:20 half a million children by rolling out the chicken pox vaccines. In stark contrast, the man who wrote reform's health policy has made shocking and baseless claims that vaccines are linked to cancer. And that's been endorsed by reform leader. They laugh. They laugh at it. These dangerous conspiracies cost lives. And it shows that reform can't be trusted with our NHS. And meanwhile, Pfizer-Moderna shares fall on report that Trump officials will link child

Starting point is 02:45:56 deaths to COVID shots. Woo-hoo. Go ahead, Prime Minister question time. Yeah, that's coming, apparently, this week. Oh, I haven't heard that. It's on CNBC, which means there's got to be true. Something's going on, yeah, because they, yeah, it's a report from the Washington Post. Officials plan to include the claim in a presentation next week to a key vaccine panel that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Starting point is 02:46:23 Whoa. That's, uh, that's quite the state. Well, they're going to have to have a lot of evidence to back this up, and I'm sure they do. I think they do. I think they have 25 child deaths they're using as an example. So that's, that's what I got there. You should be giving that shot to kids anyway. Man, no kidding.

Starting point is 02:46:44 So I've got a WTF clip, which is, wow, that's fabulous. Boothie attacks. Listen to this. Boothy attacks. All right. This is also reported launching more. air strikes against the Iran-backed Houthi terrorist group in Yemen, targeting Houthi military bases, a fuel storage facility,

Starting point is 02:47:04 and the headquarters of the Houthi Public Relations Department. So they're bombing the Public Relations Department. Yeah, you got to get them good, man. I just thought, when I heard that, I said, holy mackerel, they finally figured it out. That's who you want to, but you should have bombed them in the first place. So who's bombing? No offense to all the PR people that work, you know,

Starting point is 02:47:25 and listen to the work for a living and listen to the show. But who's bombing them? It was Israel. Of course. Of course. And I think it is, yeah, public relations the office. Where is there it is? Let's get it. It's about time. Public relations.

Starting point is 02:47:43 Well, of course, we don't want to bomb any people, but public relations. Was that a laptop? The Houthis, they had some good stuff going. They had the helicopter videos and remember that helicopter video It landed on the deck And they jumped out like in a video game

Starting point is 02:48:01 Just like a video game Every Which way Here's another weird clip I thought this was interesting Because there's obviously a lot of people I'm guessing Americans But I could be international People with way too much money

Starting point is 02:48:17 Oh yeah well yes They're everywhere of those people I wish they would listen to the show They're not on our donor list No, not that. This guy in particular, this is the Star Wars memorabilia clip. Oh, hold on a second. By the way, 18 years, no one has ever done like a crazy donation, like a 100 grand or something. No, no, that's never happened.

Starting point is 02:48:37 Where's my Bitcoin? And in a galaxy, not so far, far away, the legacy of Darth Vader lives on. Your destiny lies with me, Skywalker. Obi-1 news to be true. The prop lightsaber he wielded in that father's son. battle in the Empire Strakes Back has been sold at auction for $3.6 million. That makes it the most expensive piece of Star Wars memorabilia to be auctioned off. No word yet on the buyer who embraced this bit of the dark side.

Starting point is 02:49:10 Oh, I can tell you who it is. That's an easy one. There's only one guy I know who would spend that kind of money on Star Wars memorabilia because he has a lot of it already. Glenn Beck. Oh, that's an interesting theory. I've been in his museum. Yeah, you have.

Starting point is 02:49:29 You've been one of the privileged few. He, I mean, he has. So what kind of stuff does he have that Star Wars? Oh, he has, uh, star. And he has three million to blow on a trinket? Dude. The good dude. Glenn Beck is not hurting.

Starting point is 02:49:45 I mean, he has a, he, outside the building, he's got a custom Bentley, uh, like a beautiful, uh, I think it's the continent. that the Continental R. His museum, besides, he has a lot of American memorabilia. President Lincoln's door, including the doorknob and the knocker. He has George Washington's compass and a drawing compass. He has, from movie memorabilia, Dorothy's Ruby slippers. He's got a full-on star trooper.

Starting point is 02:50:22 I think he has a couple of Star Trooper The white dudes Yeah the outfits He's got He's got stuff from Gone with the Wind He has from Who did I think from Spartacus

Starting point is 02:50:40 He has the model ship They use for the For in the water scene Oh Which was Cecil B. DeMille He has Cecil B. DeMille's chair I mean he has has one of the first electric chairs, which, you know, is weird to sit in.

Starting point is 02:50:56 It's a very strange sense. You go ahead, sit in it. I'm like, okay, just make sure Glenn doesn't trip over any switches anywhere. But he has, you know, like, he has a lot of original, a lot of original Texas documents. It is traveling. He's taken it on the road, his museum. And he's asked me to do something with it. I think he wants me to show up at some one of the, one of the exhibits, which I'll gladly do.

Starting point is 02:51:21 It is a, and he shares it with everybody. It gets a podcasting memorabilia from you. You're cobalt. Hey, Glenn, I got something for you, museum, buddy. Look at my, look at me, this cube, man, this cobalt. He has Rush Limbaugh's gold microphone. He does? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:51:42 The original? Well, he says it is. I have no reason to doubt him. I know they made a bunch of them. Well. He made a bunch of gold mic. I think there's also a number of ruby. red slippers. But if this was genuine lightsaber, that has Glenn Beck's name all over it,

Starting point is 02:51:58 for sure. He goes all over the world trying to buy stuff. Hey, power to him. At least what I like about Glenn Beck is that he's a busy guy. I mean, he's got a million things going on. You do the show with him. He's like, hey, want to come see the museum, want to see the update. Your friend, your friend wasn't here last time. Yeah, he needs to see it. He'll take you along right into the museum. And it's just like an hour and a half, two-hour tour. That sounds great. Yeah, it is. He's a nice guy.

Starting point is 02:52:27 I'm always appreciative of, and he's saving American stuff. I have like one piece of movie memorabilia. I have the kimono kind of jacket that Marlon Brando wore

Starting point is 02:52:43 in the Tea House of the August Moon that was sold at the MGM auctions and bought somebody who gave it to somebody who gave it to me as a gift and that's about it oh my friend of mine used to have that little uh the Cuisinard or whatever the hell it was was on the back of the of the of the of the of the car in back to the future there was some sort of oh really that he has the real one a real piece yeah he's got the one he bought it at the auction for that's cool yeah uh unfortunately he died but i don't know who do you need to go knock on the door hey

Starting point is 02:53:16 somebody's got that i want my Cuisinart it was what was it was a it wasn't a queasel microwave was a microwave no it was a little device of some sort i don't know i forgot but it was on the back and you'd put something in it and it grind it up and it made the cargo fest um nothing but logic in flux capacitor it was something whatever it was and i don't know too many people that collect a movie movie actually brunetti's got a pretty decent collection of stuff who's rene brunetti Brunetti. Dana Brunetti.

Starting point is 02:53:51 Dana Brunetti, yes. Yeah, Dana's got a collection of stuff, but it's all contemporary. It's nothing that I notice that it's old. No, because he doesn't know what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. You need to give him some advice on collectibles. I mean, he should be swimming and he should have, I mean, the easy one is, I think I have a family guy script. Does that count?

Starting point is 02:54:15 Yeah, that does count. Now, so I was at the meetup, you know. I was at the meet up and there was a woman and her husband and the guy, the guy brought up a new possible Zed thing. He's a, he was a construction company. Yes, Zeds. Go Zeds. They can't read a tape.

Starting point is 02:54:32 A tape? Like tape measure. What? You got a tape measure? They can't. They're clueless. He says they don't know what the hell it is or what you're supposed to do with it. What do you mean?

Starting point is 02:54:44 They don't understand that it's to measure length? Yeah. All of the above. Skeptical. But his wife was there telling me that she has a place in Idaho and they go back and forth. And her mom lives up there. And her mom, this gets kind of busted my preconceived notions. Her mom had a thrift store.

Starting point is 02:55:08 And I was thinking, ah, so she liked to collect stuff. And the first thing you want to do is get it out of the house and you put up a thrift store and you move it out. You get rid of the stuff. But it turns out that that's not what happens if you own a thrift store. You end up collecting more stuff. I believe that to be true. Because all this cool stuff comes in. We got a note from a Zed's note, which, by the way, we're not picking on Zeds.

Starting point is 02:55:34 No, we're just pointing out some Foybles. Anomily, some foibles, yes. This producer was in the Air Force. No, he is in the Air Force. And they use nothing but Microsoft Office products. And a lot of the Zeds are just so used to using tablets and iPhones when they sit at a computer. It's like a foreign language to them. The sitting and staring at the screen is very commonplace.

Starting point is 02:55:58 It's like they forget how to read and function when in front of a computer. They say, okay, what's next? And I'm sitting next to them reading the text on screen, which tells them exactly what to do next. He says, you're both right on the money with the assessment. I wanted to add to this, the Zeds traditionally did not grow up with a computer in the home. when I asked these kids, they always say no. They had their phones and tablets and did everything. It just makes sense, but they have no idea how desktops work,

Starting point is 02:56:24 unless, of course, they were gamers. The gamers, he says, they're the best because they can actually build the computer right in front of your face. So, yes, they understand that. But I find this to be a deficit in education that they're only using tablets and touch screens. I mean, you should have, you should have, I mean, there's still no evidence that the mouse will actually, anyone wants these mice, but you should know how to, you should know how to use one, you know, and simple, simple thing.

Starting point is 02:56:56 I mean, I guess they can probably do Google Docs, maybe, but they don't understand them. This is a problem for Microsoft. They have a whole generation growing up who don't know how to use their products. That's a, that's a problem. Well, I brought this up in the last show. they said, do they have computer literacy courses in high school anymore? Apparently not. And it seems that they don't.

Starting point is 02:57:19 No. No, it's not good. Which I think is a huge mistake. People don't even, I mean, you should not only be able to use a computer with efficiency and effectiveness, but you should be able to understand what's going on. So, you know, when you save a file and you go back to look for it, it's either if you, and you don't find it, you had this happen to the other last show. What happened to this clip?

Starting point is 02:57:41 you should be able to know how to find it on the machine because it obviously got put into the wrong folder. Well, that all changed with iPads and an iPhone. There's, you're not really saving anything into a folder structure anymore. You just save it. And then you hope that you're, that your, your, your word processing program or what is it?

Starting point is 02:58:03 What does he use? Numbers, numbers. And what's the, what is it? Instead of word. They, what does Apple use? Lotus one, two, three. Lotus one, two, three, no. Yeah, they just look for recent.

Starting point is 02:58:22 You know, there's, there's no concept of a file structure, a file and folder structure on these devices anymore. You should take a look at it. Oh, who am I kidding? Yeah. Because you need to know this because you're going to, unless you're just so, you're stuck in a very short time loop. Pages, thank you, pages, yes.

Starting point is 02:58:41 pages, yeah, I know about that. You're stuck in a short time frame, and that's not good because you want to be able to archive stuff that you do on a computer so you can retrieve it in the future, like maybe five years later. Yeah, but they just type it into Google, where's this document, and it comes back? I'm telling you. You hope. Yeah, well, obviously. I mean, I use, I love this system that I use, what's it called?

Starting point is 02:59:08 SFX, everything. Everything. Everything. I've told you about this. I think you might have installed it at some point. It's free. You can donate, which I do. Everything. It's at void tools.com. This actually would be a good tip of the day. And man, that thing, it is so fast. That's how I find all of these. When you say, hey, how about that clip from 1783? And I'm talking about the year, not the episode number. And I can find it. with this program because you can really refine the search and what it's looking for and I have it set for audio files only. I mean, these are important, these are important skills to have. If you want to be a podcaster. And everybody wants to be a podcaster. They sure do.

Starting point is 02:59:56 They all want to be podcasters. All right, we'll give you a couple more because we're running late today or over time. Yeah, we went long on the Anglo Dutch system. Oh, I, I, I, let's just do these. These are the, I can do Baltimore crime. I'm going to push that off. I want to do one of these word things because this is kind of interesting because I actually knew this and learned it in high school,

Starting point is 03:00:22 but a lot of people don't know where the word, the word robot comes from and how it evolved into what we, it's a new feature on NPR that I kind of like. What? I bitched about the fact they weren't giving me credit. Oh, yeah, right. So the word robot, let me just think, Where does the word robot come from?

Starting point is 03:00:43 Is it a, I'm just guessing, was it an acronym? No. The road, they actually tell you in hearing it's quite it. And I learned this, and I believe when I was a senior in high school, because we discussed the, uh, this, it comes from the title of a play. Huh. Let's hear it. Everyone has an idea of what a robot is, but do you know where the word came from?

Starting point is 03:01:05 Now. NPR's Emma Bowman has the answer in the latest installment of our Word of the Week series. What kind of talk is this? The week series, I'm a moment. When Melania Trump used the word just last week during a meeting with the White House Task Force on AI Education, she was referring to artificial intelligence. The robots are here.

Starting point is 03:01:28 Our future is no longer science fiction. Who wrote that for her, by the way? You're mean. You're mean to make Melania say, the robots are here. Back in 1920, Czech writer Carol Chepec first imagined the robot in his play, R-U-R-U-R, Rossum's Universal Robots. In the satirical melodrama, the character Harry Doman runs a factory that churns out mechanical humanoid workers made of synthetic flesh and blood. The robots are not people.

Starting point is 03:01:59 Mechanically, they are more perfect than we are. They have an enormously developed intelligence, but they have no soul. Is this a robot talking? is that uh you know i don't know what that voiceover they drop it in the blue it may have been a line in the play that was read by a i could be but i think it was a line in the play oh okay the work is what introduced robot to the english language a negative connotation was built into the word from the start modernity is turning us all into machines that's kind of the message tobias higby teaches labor history at ucla he says cheapex work critiqued the social

Starting point is 03:02:37 political climate of the time. The rhetoric of the Joman character echoed that of Henry Ford, the industrialist who pioneered mass production with assembly lines. As technology advanced in auto production and elsewhere, the idea of the robot began evolving and talks soon pivoted to how it would hurt workers by throwing them out of their jobs and denying them their livelihood. So robots became analogous to machines, not workers. That's how we got to Blade Runner, Terminator and I Robot. Through it all, Robot has held on to its same loose definition,

Starting point is 03:03:13 says linguist Adam Alexic. There's always this implication of it is a forced worker. Well, I think they kind of skip over Lost in Space, going straight to Terminator. Yeah, you're right. Lost in Space is a better example. Yeah. Yeah, with Robbie.

Starting point is 03:03:31 Robbie the Robo. I was a fan of Robbie the Robo. He was in a lot of movies. Robbie the Robot. The Jetsons had, what was the, they're, they're, hazel, hazel, hazel, yeah, the robot, you kind of glossed over those. Well, they also gloss over the whole topic here as they, as it falls apart. So here we go. He says Chapex army of roboti, which translated to robot in English, derives from the old Slavic word

Starting point is 03:03:58 Robota, meaning servitude or forced labor. The robot usually carries the looming threat to extinguish the human race. It all goes back to RUR. You know, spoiler alert at the climax of the play, the robots gain self-consciousness and slaughter all the humans. Nowadays, robots are being marketed as our assistants, girlfriends, pals, and our equals. Interpretations of the robot that stray further than ever from the word's definition in its 100-year history. Emma Bowman, NPR News. Yeah, that's interesting because you could, You just know that these AI companies will never use the term robot because they don't want you to think that you can control them, that you, that they're your slave. They always want you to think, well, one day it's going to eat you.

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Starting point is 03:05:24 No reports. It'll be quick. But we also have the tip of the day. And Secretary General's to welcome in. And some nights. We've got a lot to do, actually. John's going to thank the rest of our support. orders value for value at no agenda donations.com, $50 and above.

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Starting point is 03:12:53 You know to be where you won't be. Trip it all hell's lame. You want to be. where everybody feels the same. And before we get to the tip of the day, we do have to find a nice ISO and everything up with, and John is back to obviously 11 labs

Starting point is 03:13:16 because I see a dad gum, and I'm going to play it to listen to what it is. Dadgummit, another doozy of a podcast. Yep, there you go. You should you try some different voices? I used to, I was using the girl for a while, the sexy girl, Jennifer, and you hated it after a while before hearing it too much. So I went to Caleb. We were in church this morning and, you know, church is like a show.

Starting point is 03:13:43 They got their music segment. They got their, they have a donation segment. They have a video promo segment. And it's like, like for the women's ministry, I'm like, whose voice is that? They're using AI now. They're using AI for voiceover in the church. I'm like, oh, man, we run out of women. It was somewhat painful.

Starting point is 03:14:07 For you. Oh, no, I, now that's the reason you, in today's show, you said you've given up. You're going to let AI do its thing. Yeah, I have to. Just, we need to. Because the church has the influence over you. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 03:14:23 It's the church that has influence. No. I'll have to talk to Jesus about it, see what he says. Here's my... You'll get an AI voice back. I don't think so. Here is my first ISO. Am I living in the twilight zone?

Starting point is 03:14:39 Yeah, it's not too bad. Okay, and then I have this one. I could literally talk about this for three hours. Hours? I hate to say it, but I think by Caleb one is better. Then we'll go with the Caleb because I've given up on AI, but not giving up on the tip of the day. Great advice for you and me

Starting point is 03:14:59 Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Okay, we're going to a sealant A sealant, oh, we haven't done a good sealant We have a product, there's a product show The sealant, silicon on sealant From ASI, the ASI 502 Silicon Seelant

Starting point is 03:15:19 This turns out to be something You can pretty much seal anything with If you've watched the TV ads With a guy with the black goo and he puts on everything, leaking boats and all this is better. Can you seal your muffler with it? Yes, I think you can. And it's a new, it's a new kind of a category of products called RTVs.

Starting point is 03:15:42 RTVs. And RTVs are, it stands for room temperature vulcanization. Huh. And vulcanizing, which is invented to make a fake tires. that started, and it was always a high pressure, high temperature, sulfur-related process that was intense. And room-temperature vulcanization, it's kind of like room-temperature fusion, you know, it's kind of like, oh, you can't do that.

Starting point is 03:16:13 Right. But you kind of can, and Mimi's actually used this stuff. If anyone has a blend tech blender, which is doing. Oh, you can blend anything. Will it blend? the Willa Blend guys, well, they have these, the special mixing, the thing at the top, whatever you call, a container that has the knife blades in the bottom. Yes.

Starting point is 03:16:36 Those things, those things are specifically designed and they are expensive. They like, they cost like over 100 bucks to get one replaced. She had one leaking on her. Well, the whole blender is like six or seven hundred dollars. The blender's overpriced. Yeah, but it does a job, let me tell you. But she used this RTV stuff on the crack in the thing. And it's safe for food usage.

Starting point is 03:17:07 It's got a special category. It's safe once it volcanizes and becomes solid. It's a killer product. It comes in a tube. You can get it on IMS on and elsewhere. And once again, the name of that is the ASI 502 RTV silicon sealant. It's a winner, everybody. Steal it and let us know how it went.

Starting point is 03:17:27 There it is. John's tip of the day. Create advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnetti. All right. There you go, everybody.

Starting point is 03:17:41 That's it for today. I'm sure there will be something else to discuss on Thursday. No doubt about it. As we've got our eye on the Anglo-Dutch connection. The system. It's my new beat. I'm excited about it. If you stick around on your modern podcast app or no agenda stream.com,

Starting point is 03:18:02 you will hear random thoughts up next. Jail Reform Roulette is the title. I don't know what the guys are up to this time. Sure, that will be fun. Thank you all for being with us today once again. Be nice to each other. And stay tuned for the end of show mix as Professor J. Jones checks in. And David Kek, the brand new end of show mix from him, he's got a studio back up and running.

Starting point is 03:18:26 And Secret Agent Paul, we need more from Secret Agent Paul. And we'll see you again on Thursday. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in the vineyards of Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley. We're pleased and clear of the closing doors. I remain. I'm John C. DeVorek. We'll be back on Thursday.

Starting point is 03:18:50 Remember us at No Agenda Donations.com until then. Adios, Mofos, a hooey-hooey, and such. Beep, beep, beep. Allow me to sum up this week's news. Hitler is back. Hitler is back, everybody. How dare you? Let me take you back to 1939.

Starting point is 03:19:20 I think Donald Trump is a fascist. Yes, I do. Hitler is back. 21% of Gen Z Americans think Adolf Hitler had some good ideas. Actual American Nazis. It's a Nazi rally. How dare you? Donald Trump has said he would terminate the Constitution in the United States.

Starting point is 03:19:38 Out, out, out! praising Adolf Hitler saying Adolf Hitler did some good things. Certainly falls into the general definition of fascists. It's perfect. To celebrate the rise of Nazism. that Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler. Back home to mommy. She goes back home to mommy.

Starting point is 03:19:56 How is that casting aspersions? This is next level QAnon stuff? They'll say, you know, Trump supporters have set off a dirty bomb in Philadelphia. They're counting on us to help him win. They're counting on us to propagate their clips. Vowed to be a dictator on day one. Someone needs to calm her down. Hitler did not do some good things.

Starting point is 03:20:17 Now, okay, you stop it there. The president just signed an executive order making some... news here when it comes to pharmaceutical ads you don't have to exercise you don't have to pay attention to your diet whatever goes wrong with you you can fix with a truck they're going to have to report all their side effects in some cases i might create an advertisement that's four minutes long um back prior to 1997 advertising in magazines had page after page after side effects reported Whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with a truck.

Starting point is 03:20:58 Drug. Drug. Pharmaceutical hats. We learned this morning that the FDA is now saying that it's okay to take it. Ivermectin if you have proved it. One of the most exciting things we're working on, again, using the tools that Sam and Masa are providing, is our cancer vaccine. If you're white, you're a racist, if you're male, you're a pig, if you're cis, you are privileged, skin is shaming if you're big, and if you stretch you homophobic. Heaven help if you're wrong

Starting point is 03:21:52 So don't have an opinion And just do what you're told The best podcast in the universe Adios, Mofo Devorac.org. Slash N.A. Dadgummit, another dozy of a podcast. Thank you.

No Agenda - 1799 - "Taproot"

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