No Agenda - 1801 - "Hate of Speech"

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

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Uh, I'm confused. Adam Curry, John C. DeVoreh. It's Sunday, September 21st, 2025. This is your award-winning, give on Asian media assassination episode 18001. This is no agenda. Uncancelable and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern South, whatever. Where are you? Northern Cis, Cic. I've been joining in Connecticut Valley, people. I thought you had the whole week to get ready. I did. I screwed it up. You did.

Hit it. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorrax. It's Sunday, September 21st, 2025. This is your award-winning Kipa Nation Media Assassination Episode 18001. This is no agenda. Uncancellable and broadcasting. Live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we missed it completely. How did that happen? I'm John C. DeVorek. It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. So I have a question. Why are bagpipes often used at funerals? It's some tradition in Scotland.

Was Charlie Kirk of Scottish origin? I don't know, maybe. Well, because they have bagpipers. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on my teaser. What, that we completely forgot? Yeah. I forgot what? You don't remember what we forgot?

Completely. We completely have forgotten the last show. We forgot it now. We completely forgot it. It just didn't even come across our desk. Did it come across the climate desk? No, it wasn't climate. No, but it could have come across.

I really don't know. Blackout. Oh, no. Did we miss blackout? Blackout. It came and went on the 15th, I think. Ah. And it was well organized.

There were going to be a million demonstrations. The country was going to be on a general strike. We were going to shut down because of Trump. Hmm. Oh, that's interesting. Did we really think that was going to work, though, did we? Well, we didn't. but at least we could have ridiculed it or something.

We didn't even do that. It was just, it was such a dud. Well, there was a lot. That it wasn't even in the news. Well, and that's why these things fail. If it's not in the news, then it's not, um, clipped and, and sent out on social media. There was something else going on in the country, in the world at the time.

And so that's how these things work or don't work. If, if the, and you know, maybe it's very possible it was happening all over, but we didn't know about it if a tree falls in the forest does anyone hear it if no one's there does it make a sound well i was here in the bay area and i didn't see anybody protesting walking out you know i suppose someone from the black community could say it's supposed to be the blacks that were supposed to stop working for some reason the blacks they could have said you know we haven't got any jobs so what are we supposed to do so um a lot of i got some several emails, people saying, you know, you should start the show an hour later.

I'm like, this is going to be a multi-hour thing, this Charlie Kirk Memorial. You know, we might as well not do a show if, you know, it's like, if we, we do a show on our own deathbeds. This is true. We do it on Christmas. We're on vacation. We're on vacation. We're going to change the show for some outside influence. I don't think so.

No. And it's a podcast, people, you can listen to it anytime. I am recording it. I will watch it later. tonight. I'm very, I'm very interested. It's, it's a, it's a real moment for America's younger generation. At that place is packed. Now, of course, they're showing me celebrities on the quad screen. Very important. We see who's there. Were you there? Um, that's some big names. Chris Tomlin, Brandon Lake, Phil Wickham. These are all big names.

Oh, they? Yeah. Well, you won't see them on the MTV Awards, but yeah, they're big names. I haven't heard of any. All three of those names are unknown to me. Because I didn't know who Halsey was until I was seeing all these posts because they won't let Halsey do another album. So I went and I went to YouTube to listen to Halsey. You're still stuck on Rihanna. And I'm thinking, holy Mac was just another one of these manufactured acts.

It's just like it sounds like Taylor Swift and probably has a little better voice. But the songs are unmemorable and there's lots of them. Yeah, that's what popular top 40 music has always been that, unmemorable. I mean, name three songs, Taylor, go hum, hum, the hook from three. The hook from three Taylor Swift songs. Now, you can't, Rihanna, you're a big fan of Rihanna, but you can't hum one of her songs. I can't. Yeah.

Now, these are Christian contemporary artists. They sell out Austin. Oh, that's what you would know. I wouldn't know. No, they sell out Austin two nights, 15,000 people each night. That's a good business. It's a great, it's the God business, man. It's a good business.

So I have a suggestion for people. Get a proton mail or a fast mail account or get something other than Gmail. Because I am convinced, based on the comment. of your newsletter that gmail slash google slash alphabet destroyed it well i think this happens by the way uh uh our our girl uh katherine in bangkok didn't get the mail either it says a bunch of people didn't get it and it's always gmail yeah and and i think you might be right but the problem is every time i send out the second note i get about 10 to 20 to 30 to 50 to 100 people say, I've got Gmail.

I've always gotten the newsletter. I don't know what these people's problems are. So there's something selective about it. And I can't, and there's, I have yet to figure out what it might be. It could also, believe it or not, it could just also be a massive technical fail. Email, you know, there's a lot that can go wrong. You know, I, years ago, this is back in the early 80s when I was writing for the deck professional. Wow, a platform that I don't think is in use anymore.

No, because there's no deck. No. Digital Equipment Corporation doesn't exist. And I wrote this column. Funny thing is the columns I wrote for that magazine is the only columns I won any awards for. Wait, what award? What award did you win? I wrote the Computer Press Association Award for Best Column for one of those.

Computer, did they have a gala every year? The Computer Press Association. They did. They did. And it was gay. So, no surprise there. Well, it was a gay la. Oh, very, very gay la, yes.

Oh, it took you forever. Yeah, I'm sorry. So I wrote this column once there. I remember this distinctly because I never got so much hate mail in my life. It was about during the early days of the Internet when it was still, you know, just after Arpaneda first, you know, you get an email account. And I did a rant about how it's unreliable and it's never going to, you know, it's always going to be that way. is just because of the system itself, the whole mechanism stinks.

And oh, man, all these nerds, you know, these engineers from all these big companies. You can't say, it's bull crap. This is the best thing ever. It's going to work and it works well. And I was right. Well, you're also on video with evidence of how you troll Apple people.

That's one of my favorite pieces of video. You know, you were so glib about, oh, this is how I do it. You know, I slam Apple. And then I'll go, yeah, Apple's great. And then I'll slam them again. And then people whips all back and forth. And my audience just keeps growing.

You're the ultimate troll. It's very good. Oh, well, I'm not as much as I used to be. Well, no. I've lost my touch, to be honest about it. Can you turn any of your speakers just a little? It's really, really coming back loud. What is this?

Why is it? Yeah, it's coming back loud today for some reason. It should be okay now. Yeah, it's okay now. So, oh, I forgot, last night, a local, local Fredericksburg news report. And by the way, before you get your Fredericksburg news report, I want to say, so me, me up, who's running for office in Port Angeles. Yeah, but where's the script? She has, oh, that's coming.

She has a friend who's an ex-police, and he's, he is, he is. connected to the same military intelligence people we talked about before. Oh. Grid going down? He feels, he, he, his feet,

she says, she tells me these stories and what, what, why does he think this? And I always said that, by the way, my response, which includes there's going to be an assassination attempt at the Charlie

Kirk thing and there's all this and that. And all the, the, the, the, um, the, the assassination and all the rest.

And I said, You know, and the one thing in common I think that all these people have is they refuse to listen to the No Agenda show. Oh, no. Why would they? It's like Laura Logan doesn't listen to the No agenda show. She'll never listen to it because it's, it's, no, uh-uh. I can barely get the keyboard to listen to a full episode. She listens.

You know who listen? Everyone at church. They love it. They love the No Agenda show. Everybody's like, yeah. Oh, so I walk in, this is the Boots and Barbecue. This is the big Fredericksburg tea party gala, which I like a lot because it doesn't cost anything. And there's no auction.

Every gala in the world hasn't we have the silent auction is closed, everybody. You know, they did have a silent auction. They had an auction if they had a silent auction. No, no. The silent auction, but it wasn't, they had sponsors of the event. They didn't have fun. It wasn't a fundraising event per se, although it is. all these gala's like and then okay we've got half a cow from uh ted's ranch and the bidding starts

at eight hundred dollars and you know and then so people wind up buying four thousand dollar half a cow you know it's it's all kind it's all like kind of icky like yeah look at me i got the big swinger just donate your money you know and there's and there's always something that is very overpriced that you don't want like uh a week stay in Steamboat, Colorado in August.

What's the name of this thing again? Boots and Barbecue. And it's organized so that one of the big engines behind Boots and Barbecue also the Fredericks Bird Tea Party is Matt Long who organizes our

meetups here. And Matt's the guy that dresses up as Benjamin Franklin and goes into the schools, the public schools. Actually, he looks like Benjamin Franklin. One of those guys. Oh, he's good. He's good at it.

Nah, this is, Matt's the real deal. When at Benjamin Franklin's, I don't know, relatives into direct descendant, a guy named Nick DeWolf was a very famous technologist. And he, I think he was the great, great grandson or something. and he actually looked like Ben Franklin. Well, Matt Long looks like Ben Franklin. But he's not related. No, who cares about your stupid story?

It's like you just derailed everything. I know a guy who was friends with the great-grandson. If you had a good story, you just plow through it. Yeah, but it wasn't a good story. I'm trying to get to it. Anyway, so it's a big deal. And it's sponsored by, let's see, this is a great list of people. Gun owners of America.

Woohoo! Ben Franklin? No, no. The Boots and Barbecue. The Tea Party, the big annual gala. Oh, I thought you said it wasn't sponsored by anybody. No, I said there was no auction where they had those stupid auctions. Okay.

A golfing vacation. Anyway. I'm hearing something really strange. Something's off with myself. Are you still there? Yeah. Something's off with the system. I don't know what's going on today.

So underwritten, let's put it that way. Gun Owners of America, the Convention of States, moms for Liberty. You can already tell this was a hoot nanny. This was good. And the speaker was, I was that guy. Yeah, he has a lot of these podcasts. yeah a podcast story is getting worse by the minute Alex Newman Alex Newman now he's pretty good

Alex Newman did 45 minutes and it was the no agenda show it was literally agenda 20 2021 agenda 2030 Soros common core I mean it was like a run through our history and the guys out there making money on this I'm sitting there going we could do this we'd just get a PowerPoint. He had so many slides. He said, well, only have 45 minutes. Just fast forwarded through about 50 slides. Okay, we're here now.

But it was good. You know, they honored the volunteer fire department of Kerr County. Of course, you know, we had the floods here. So that was really nice. But anyway, the point is I bumped into Kyle Biederman. And Kyle Beterman, why are you laughing? It's because this is the most rambling story. you've ever told.

No, never mind. Okay, let's move on to the news. I don't even know who Kyle. No, Biederman is. I want to know now. I'm about to explain. He's a state senator. Guy who owns ace.

Oh, okay. Is he from, Fredericksburg? He's a Fredericksburg state senator for the Texas legislature and he's a Republican. Yes, and he owns Ace Hardware. And he comes out to me, says,

I... He owns Ace Hardware, the chain? No, he owns several franchises. Oh, he owns a franchise. And a pizza restaurant. And he says, I love your show. How long you've been doing that? You guys, you're really good.

Do you really like each other? I said, no. It's just a good show. And he says, I love the Florida ounces. And his wife, her name is Barbie. She has an amazing voice. She talks like this. Anyway, and Chip Roy.

Chip Roy was there. Did Chip Roy listen to the show? Chip Roy doesn't listen to anything. or anybody. He's at every single one of these. He's running for Texas Attorney General. That's why he was there. And Don Hefana, heffinus, he's running for Comptroller. He has a political event. But you know what was good? The barbecue was good. Somehow that story just didn't unpack. I think it was all that. I was going to do really short update. I think you could have started with the ending.

But the barbecue was really good. It tastes great. The barbecue is good. And guess we who was there and he likes a no agenda show. I think that would have some gun really made it, brought it home. I'll do better. I'll do better. Instead of a bunch of, you know, bands I never heard of. The bands,

the bands were at Charlie Kirk's Memorial. You are very, you're not listening. You're very confused. No, it's because the story was discomb, no, whatever. Okay. It was, it was bad. Oh, okay.

So let's, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Now, the topic of the week has been free speech. And it's really irked me how, well, not irks me. I think people tune in to the no agenda show or listen to it on the podcast to get some actual information to really understand what the truth is about something. And everybody is full of crap. including Ted Cruz.

What he said there is dangerous as hell. And I got to say that's right out of Goodfellas. That's right out of a mafioso coming into it. That's all, folks. I wonder if I have that. Wow. That's got to be some kind of tell. Let me see.

That's right out of a mafioso. Hold on I missed it. Here we go. And I got to say that's right out of Goodfellows. That's all, folks. Oh, that's not it. I thought I had a... That's all they got.

I don't have it. I don't have a porky pig. All right, onward. I got to say, that's right out of Goodfellas. That's right out of a mafioso coming into a bar going, nice bar you have here. It'd be a shame of something happened to it. If the government gets in the business of saying,

Well, hold on a second. What is Cruz doing shtick now? Well, this is his podcast. on his podcast. And he's doing voices? That wasn't bad, actually. I thought his voice. No, it wasn't. No, I'm not saying it was bad. He was pretty good. But he's Ted Cruz. I know. But this is a, the whole thing stems from a dumb, or a remark made on a podcast, all right? This is where this, people don't think about what they're saying on podcasts. And it's been a thesis of yours for the entire 18 years we've been doing this show.

And it's true. You love bringing these people, these clips from these naive people that think that, I don't know, understand it either, to be honest about it. Why you think that you can say stuff on a podcast you wouldn't say on network TV? Well, it's a, they don't consider it to be real. media to this day. It's getting a little closer, I think. No. Like Palm Bandy. You know, she, she said stuff on a podcast, which was just ridiculous. And, you know, we determined that that was possibly a Stephen Miller hit, which I think is still a very good thesis. But anyway, let's get back to Ted Cruz

with his shit. Nice bar you have here. It'd be a shame of something happened to it. If the government gets in the business of saying what you can and can't say what did you say something no that was in the clip oh you sound like cruise if the government gets in the business of saying we don't like what you the media have said we're going to ban you from the airwaves if you don't say what we like that will end up bad for conservatives okay so let's just go through a couple of couple things which are not really exposed at all or discussed. And let's listen first to what Jimmy Kimmel actually said. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Maga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything

other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger pointing, there was grieving on Friday the White. So the actual offense, as it's being determined, and we'll get into it, is this beginning part. And the second part is what everybody's focused on. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Maga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. So that was the true offense was saying that this was a MAGA guy. He's saying it in reverse, but he's kind of saying that. And then we go into the comedy portion.

The finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism. But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this. I condolences on the law to your friend, Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir? I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the way.

White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's going to be a beauty. Yes. He's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction. Demolition. Construction.

This is not how an adult grieves the murder of somebody he called a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish. Okay. It was offensive towards the president because really you know, I don't know if the president even heard the first bit that the, that the reporter asked. Like, you know, the murder of Charles, sorry about the murder of your friend, Charlie Kirk.

How are you holding up? Or maybe he's an 80-year-old who's like, huh? What? Yeah, I'm doing great. Look at the construction over there. I don't know. But that's fine. But that's what it seems like.

Well, here's the full clip of that in context. My condolences, sir. My condolences on the law of your friend, Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last? Last day and a half, sir. I think very... See, it really, I mean, that's from the... That's standing next to the president.

It's a different camera angle. It's kind of hard to hear what he said. But regardless. So then Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman, goes on the Benny Johnson podcast and shoots his mouth off, although technically, I believe he is correct. There's a very concerted effort

to try to lie to the American people about the nature, as you indicate, of one of the most significant newsworthy public interest acts that we've seen in a long time. And what appears to be an action, appears to be an action by Jimmy Kimmel to play into that narrative that this was somehow a MAGA or Republican motivated person. If that's what happened here with his conduct, that is that is really, really sick. I've been very clear. They have a license granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest. And we can get into some ways that we've been trying to reinvigorate the public interest and some changes that we've seen.

But frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or, you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead. So kind of a dumb statement because it did sound threatening. But what people don't understand is how the system works because everyone just watches stuff on X or you watch it maybe on YouTube TV. This is legacy. Legacy of spectrum, which is very valuable. You know, you probably read about auctions.

Oh, a billion dollars here, $10 billion here, 17. I think Starlink just bought some spectrum from somebody else for $17 billion. So the broadcast spectrum is owned by all of us, the taxpayers, and the licensing requirements are very clear, although they really have not ever been enforced because most presidents and administrations have been afraid of the media. Like, well, you know, if we start to mess with them, then, you know, they'll say bad things about me. Well, I don't think President Trump is anything to lose in that manner. And it really is not the networks. It's each local individual station that has a transmitter, which if they just

turn those off and went, you know, full digital, they would not have to deal with any of this. Yet. Well, yet. That's true. So there's a few requirements. First of all, you have to be a citizen. Can't be a foreign government. This is why Rupert Murdoch became an American. Character. An applicant must act honestly. Intentional misrepresentations greatly increase the risk of license denial or non-renewal. Criminal conduct may or may not disqualify an applicant. When reviewing competing applications, an applicant who has no character issues more likely to receive the license than one with legal violations, et cetera, financial requirements, and there's technical requirements. But there is, there are some very specific law. about what you can and can't broadcast. So first, let's continue with Benny. These are all short, with Benny Johnson and Brendan Carr. Obviously, look, there's calls for Kim will be fired.

I think, you know, you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this. And again, you know, the FCC is going to have remedies that we could look at. And again, you know, we may ultimately be called to be a judge on that. But this also strikes me as sort of conduct that to some extent shows some sort of desperate. for irrelevance. I mean, look, NPR has been defunded. PBS has been defunded. Colbert is retiring. Joy Reid is out at MSNBC. Terry Moran has gone from ABC. It's now admitting that they are biased. CBS has now made some commitments to us that they're going to return to more fact-based journalism. And so I think you see some lashing out from people like Kimmel, who are frankly

talentless. It's like, this is a podcast and he thinks that no one watches Benny Johnson or I'll do this quick Benny Johnson podcast. He's a big podcast.

Of course he is. Although, man, go look at his YouTube channel. You know, he does with all the, with the YouTube channel. If you want to just find the Brendan Carr interview,

good luck, because every image is AI generated of outrage-looking people. You know, because that's what you have to do in order for the algorithms to pick

it up and people to click on. Oh, there's an outrage clip. Oh, I got to check that out. Before you continue, I want to comment on that clip. The way he cavalierly says that PBS and NPR have been defunded is ridiculous. They're not defunded at all. They're not even close to being defunded. What he meant to say or should have said was that the government's not giving them any more

subsidies, and that amounts to 1% of their budget. So how is that defunded? It's not. He's an idiot in line with Palm Bandi. He should be fired. Well, he might get fired. And maybe this was intentional. I don't know.

It doesn't seem like it. It seems like he's just shooting his mouth off. And as a commissioner, that's not your job. We finally. No, you're absolutely correct. This guy should not be on a podcast at all. He should just like all these lot of people during this, the Kirk, the, the the Kirk era, they should just shut up.

Well, here he is with the actual rules and regulations, and then I have a few things to read. We have a rule on the book that interprets a public interest standard that says news distortion is something that is prohibited. Likewise, we have a rule that addresses broadcast hoaxes. And so, again, over the years, he has stepped back from enforcing it. And I don't think it's been to the benefit of anybody. Just look at the credibility of these legacy media. It's absolutely through the floor.

They used to be able to say at least they were more trustworthy than Congress, but now they're even less trustworthy than Congress. And so I think as a business matter for them, something has to change. And at the FCC, you know, we need to re-invigorate this. So again, there's actions that we can take on licensed broadcasters. And frankly, I think that it's really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney and say, listen, we are going to preempt. We are not going to run Kimmel anymore until you straighten this out because we, we licensed broadcaster are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC if we continue to run content that ends up being a pattern of news distortion.

So I think, again, Disney needs to see some change here, but the individual licensed stations that are taking their content, it's time for them to step up and say, this garbage to the extent that that's what comes down the pipe in the future isn't something that we think serves the needs of our local communities. So, just so we understand, the FCC can't pull anything away from ABC, NBC, CBS. They can only pull away from individual stations. And the renewal period is every eight years. And it's a real thing.

It really happens. And usually it's like, eh, whatever, just keep on going. But the citizens who are in the market of a transmitter, they are the ones who can file complaints, and I'm sure they've filed plenty of complaints against the view and Kim. There's a lot of people, particularly our age and older, who sit at home going, ah, these guys, I'm going to file a complaint with the FCC. You know that that happens. Yeah, yeah.

I'm almost, I'm at the point, if I wasn't doing this podcast, I'd be doing it. Exactly. You'll be writing letters to the president on your typewriter. No, so this is, it's very valid that a lot of these stations who are getting their complaints are saying, well, you know, this is kind of a problem because I think it's in 2028 is when a lot of them come up for renewal. Like, well, you know, if you look at the balance and if you really look at the laws, the laws, then, you know, I can see where they would be worried and Brendan Carr obviously threw some gasoline on the fire. Now, there is another very

specific, it's a, it's a, it's in U.S. law, 70, 47 CFR 73.1217. Now I certainly defer. Oops, sorry, that's not the one. It's, he talks about here. We have a rule on the book that interprets a public interest standard that says news distortion is something that is prohibited. Likewise, we have a rule that addresses broadcast hoaxes. And so, again, over the years, the FCC has stepped back from enforcing it. And I don't think it's been to the benefit of anybody. Just look at the credibility of these legacy media. It's absolutely through the floor. They used to be able to say at least they were more trustworthy than Congress, but now they're even less trustworthy than Congress. And so I think as a business matter for them, something has to

change. And at the FCC, you know, we need to reinvigorate this. So again, there's actions that we can take on licensed broadcasters. And frankly, I think that it's really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney and say, listen, we are going to preempt. We're not going to run Kimmel anymore until you straighten this out. Did I just play that? I think I just played that. Yeah, you played it twice in a row. Yeah, okay. So,

the law is no licensee or permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false information concerning a crime or catastrophe if the licensee this is number one. If the licensee

knows this information is false. Well, that's kind of difficult to prove. That is tough. That's a tough one to prove. If it is foreseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm, maybe, maybe not. Broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm. This is kind of what they call the hoax, the hoax rule. So, you know, obviously no one should say anything because we don't know the exact origin.

They didn't at that time. Certainly not know anything about this kid. But, you know, when you're talking someone who's saying, I'm sorry, my love, and is living with a trans person, it's probably not a MAGA. You know, so probably not. Probably not. And his mom said he wasn't.

You can make a case that that was broadcasting false information, but it comes down to a balance. But again, as we pointed out in the last show, we had clips that indicated that that operation is so filled with liberals and siloed people, not bubble. I was thinking about these terms of silo versus bubble. Bubbles pop, silos don't. Siloed people that all believe something.

And so I think they were totally sincere. It definitely wasn't a hoax. Well, news distortion is another part of a different rule on the books. And this is the final question short. Do you believe that what Jimmy Kimmel said rises to the level of news distortion? Look, again, the FSA could be called upon. to be an ultimate judge in that. But at this point, I think it's clear, it appears to be clear, that you can make a strong argument that this is sort of an intentional effort to mislead the

American people about a very core fundamental fact to a very important matter. At the end of the day, if we do get called upon to cast a vote on this, Disney will have a chance to put in their arguments and explain it. But, you know, this is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney. Right. So serious issue for Disney, but he has no power over Disney. He only has a decision making over license renewal, which would come up in 2028, which he probably wouldn't even be there anymore if a Democrat president is in the administration, et cetera, et cetera. So it's all kind of hypothetical. Here's Brendan Carr explaining himself on CNBC, where all truth comes out.

Was this before or after the podcast? This is after the podcast. Yeah, this was in fact Thursday. Now, I certainly defer to the decision-making of the company itself in terms of saying this was beyond the bounds. But I do wonder, and I think many people do, whether you really are just targeting comedians who typically through the years have made fun of political figures in a way that because the president simply is offended by it.

No, no, no. Look, again, broadcast. TV is different. We're on a cable show right now. You don't have an FCC license. You don't have an obligation to serve the public interest. Podcasts don't either. Stand-up comedians, whether they're on lots of forms of communications, don't. And Kimmel is free to do that. But if you have a broadcast TV license, that means that you have something that very few people have, and you're excluding other people from having access to that valuable public resource. And it comes with an obligation to serve the public interest. And again, over the years, there's been a rule in place at

the FCC that local TV stations get to preempt programming that they don't think meets the needs of their communities. But recently these national programmers, ABC, Disney, Comcast, NBC, they've been exercising outsized control and power over those local TV stations and there's been no pushback. And this is a very significant moment because local broadcasters are now pushing back on national programmers for the first time that I can think of in modern history. That's one of the things we want at the FCC, we want to empower local broadcasters that have the public interest obligation to push back on national programmers so that people have more choice. Now, this was interesting to me because I'm not, do you know anything about that relationship?

Are these local broadcast stations? Are they slaves of the networks? Do they have their hands on their nuts, so to speak? Are they slaves to the networks? I think to some extent they are. Because we had a situation in the Bay Area where one of our stations, KRON, which was the NBC affiliate, was kicked off of, it was replaced by a station that I think at the time was in Sacramento and they moved at San Jose, KNTV.

And it had to do with the, you know, all of a sudden the network went to charge more money. Yeah. And. Well, there it is. It comes down to money. There's a money issue to do. And by the way, this one thing that's not mentioned here and it should be mentioned is the Disney thing

is a little more complicated than what's being presented because there's also a deal that is going to have to be approved by the Trump administration at some point in time coming up. What is the Disney deal? The Disney deal, Disney's trying to buy via ESPN, and they're trying to buy NFL networks. Oh, well, what is, oh, that would be an anti-competitive?

Yes, because it brings the NFL, you know, more NFL games over to ESPN. And this is a big deal. Oh, no one talks about that one. But it's talked about in sports circles. Well, okay, as far as I'm concerned, no one talks about that one. They do talk about it.

It's been talked about it. No, I know, but because it's sports. Hello. the, but let's follow the money. I think these affiliates have been asking for probably since the writers, probably since the writer's strike, they've been saying, hey, ABC, can you take this guy off? We could do reruns of Hogan's heroes and make a lot more profit. Just to back you up on that, if you had looked at the newsletter.

I did. I did when it came out. When it came out, sorry. When it, if it came out, if you got one, there is a chart in there showing the unbelievable fallout of the audiences for these late night shows. It is so bad. How bad is it? It's bad. They've dropped, I'd say, 90% of their audience has been lost.

And Kimmel was losing 40. I mean, they say that Colbert, which was over staff, was losing 100 million a year. Kimmel was losing 40. 40 million a year just down the drain. And the audience is not showing any signs of recovery, all three networks. And there you have it. The bottom line is that Disney didn't want the backlash. They didn't want, you know, just wanted to get rid of Kimball.

I'm sure NBC wants to get rid of Fallon because of this very issue. It's not prestige anymore. You're right about Hogan's Heroes, by the way. Yeah. Well, it's very cheap content. Hogan's reruns would get more audience than Kimball. It's cheap content. content. You could put friends there. And it's cheap. It's free. Yeah. So this is a money issue. They've been

probably saying this for a long time. And oh, by the way, our audience gets mad. And that's why they're not watching anymore because your guy is just making fun of their guy. This has been a money issue. And Brendan Carr empowered them, particularly Neckstar. And what's the other outfit who used to be headquartered here in Austin? Well, I know the other one that was upset was Sinclair, but I don't think they were in Austin. Yeah, they're in Austin. Their headquarters is in Austin. Or it was.

St. Clair broadcast? Yeah, it was. Ron Bloom and I went there. No, Ron Bloom and I went there. We pitched them on something a long time ago. And it was, huh. Yeah. Well, that's the news to me.

Well, that's, and we talk with a muckety muck. A muckety muck. Yes, a muckety muckety muck. A true muckety muck. So the only guy who, of course, in a way, well, he, waffles a bit at the end, but Rand Paul talked to Kristen Welk from NBC, and he just called it straight up as it is. Do you want to ask you, broadly speaking, about free speech. Free speech! Freedom of speech.

I want to play something that President Trump promised during his inaugural address, followed by comments that he made just this week. By the way, I forgot to harp on the president for this comment during his inaugural speech. Take a look. I will also sign an executive order to immediately. stop all government censorship and bring back free speech. Freedom of

speech. To America. When somebody is given 97% of the stories a bad about a person, that's no longer free speech, that's no longer that's just cheating. Senator, do you believe that President Trump is sending the message that

he only supports free speech when it's speech that he agrees with? Well, this is why it's kind of rich for governors Shapiro also to come on and be outraged by censorship. Was he asleep for the four years of the Biden administration when they did have censorship? The FBI, Department of Homeland Security, were sent to the offices of Twitter. They were sent to the offices of Facebook. Facebook was told to take down information concerning the origins of the COVID virus, or they were being threatened

with removed their liability protection or being threatened with being broken up by antitrust. So we've had official censorship going on for many years now, and everybody on the left just looked the other way. They actually had an office, an office of censorship. So I applaud Trump for bringing that down. Now, saying we're going after the FCC licenses is wrong and inconsistent with that. I applaud Trump for getting rid of the censorship office in our government, but I think people should discontinue this idea of policing hate speech or sending the FCC after networks. Yeah, both of those are in his crosshairs, and rightly so, because they're morons. Brendan Carr is dumb, and Palm Bandy, maybe even dumber.

The thing that's amazing, though, is that where ABC thought, wow, this is great, we can dodge the bullet of getting rid of Kimmel because, oh, the only young people we have are the ones watching. What is it, the 0.0.7 rating, I think. it's almost nothing more people listen to in the demographic 18 to 49 more people listen to no agenda show it's really it's really that bad but what's that bad but what's happened is because of the hatred towards Trump from the I guess your typical ABC late night viewer they've gotten the ire of all of their fans and and not just people who like Kimmel but Disney fans and Disney fans. I mean, the, I know, I'm sure you know some Disney fans. These are people who do

pilgrimages, you know, they, or big buses, they, they love Disney. Anything that's Disney, they'll watch every movie. Yeah. Can I tell you something? Yeah. No. Oh, I know a lot of people like that. I do not know one person like that. Well, that's interesting. I know a lot of people like that. Obviously there's a lot of diehard Disney fans and they are revolting, not as in their, they're kind of revolting too, but they are revolting. They have to be revolting. They're revolting against ABC. Here's a, here's an example of some TikTok dude. Okay, everybody. So I, uh, as of today, I've canceled my Hulu, my Disney Plus, my Paramount. I never had ESPN. I would have canceled it anyway. I cut up my Disney credit card.

my Disney annual pass to the park has expired I was going I was thinking of renewing it I will not be renewing it I refuse to stay on any Disney property I refuse to eat at any Disney establishment that is my little way of protesting my right to the First Amendment what they're doing on now becoming state run media is getting rid of everyone that disagrees with the current administration and that I have to draw the line I mean there are other things but this It's my right to say whatever I want to say, being taken away. No, what I could watch, what I can't watch. No, that doesn't flow with me. So the only way to get back at them is got to get back at Disney. Got to get back at ABC because they coward to a bully. So they basically told them to get rid of these people. Stephen Colbert was first.

Jimmy Kimmel's second. They will go after more. Also daytime. State run media. This is the beginning. It's happening now. It's happening. before. North Korea, China, Russia,

state-run media, as of today. 1930s, 1940s, Nazi Germany. Hitler became chancellor. First thing he did, went after radio, went after the print, the newspapers, state-run media, told the people what they can watch, what they can't watch. Sorry, the only way to make them feel it in the pocketbook, I canceled it all.

You know what this brings to to mind is something that you and Moe discussed some years ago about the idea that we're not going to hire people anything like this because the long-term effects are so negative. This was some time ago when you talked about that don't hire a black person because it's going to be trouble down the road. This is the price you're going to have to pay if you're going to hire liberals at the level of Jimmy Kimmel.

Yeah. Because now they're paying the price. And they're going to pay the price for when they get rid of the view. They should have not had the shows on in the first place is what's going to be the rationale for never hiring anybody like that again. This is not the way to go about this. And it's worse because now big stars, big stars. Actually, Cynthia Nixon, you know, sex in the city, sure, but she's in Gilded Age, a runaway hit series, and here's her little 30-second bit.

Hey, I just canceled my Disney Plus and Hulu subscriptions, and they asked me why I hit Other, and I wrote, because I believe in the First Amendment, reinstate Jimmy Kimmel. Now, my whole family is really going to miss Abbott Elementary. We are really going to miss only murders in the building. But you know what? We would miss the First Amendment a whole lot more. Don't go to the theme parks. Don't go on the cruises. Cancel your subscriptions.

Now. Yeah, this is, they are definitely paying the price. Yeah, they're paying their price. If they hadn't had Kimmel in the first place, this wouldn't happen. That's the, that's the irony. Now, since we're talking about First Amendment stuff, I do have one clip in this. One more in my sequence here, the last one. which relates to the woke guy talking about this is what Stalin did.

This is what Hitler did. This is state-run, state-controlled media. You want to hear about state-controlled media? W-W-Boy. This is my new friend, Katie Hopkins. Remember I met her? Katie Hopkins was here in Fredericksburg. She's your pal now.

She's my buddy now, yes. And she was right down the road doing an interview with Laura Logan, going rogue with Laura Logan. And listen to this. What my comedy shows do, they allow people to laugh at the things you're not allowed to say because I can just about get away with saying them now in the guise of comedy. And it's a fine line. I was arrested and interviewed under caution.

I haven't spoken about this yet about three weeks ago. And I'm waiting to be charged for the crime of online communications, crime of speech. for my Katie's. I do a pub night online called the Katie's Arms. I love the Katie's Arms. So I've been arrested for that. I see. Because of what I said on my Katie's Arms pub. So that's her, her live stream where she drinks wine. Have you ever seen it? No.

It's just her in her apartment. She's drinking wine. She's making snide remarks. Yeah. And they arrested her for something she said. That, that's Hitler. That's the stuff you're talking about. Exactly. And that's what's going on in the UK right now. Oh. I mean, when Linham was arrested, he's not even a UK citizen that I, I think he's Irish or he might be Scott.

But whatever the case is that comes into Heathrow, I think, and I said it on the show, a couple of shows, last show or the show before that, I think Americans that do a lot of tweeting and could possibly just be picked up when they show up at Heathrow. Oh, well, it's funny you bring that up because I have a clip of an American. Now, she's not at Heathrow. She already is living in the UK. And this is, you know, the G.B. News is making a big deal. She's a member of something called the Free Speech Union, which is probably Strike 1. Here she is, as a cop, comes to her house. I'm a member of the Free Speech Union, and I'm an American citizen.

Something that we believe you've written on Facebook has upset someone. You're here because somebody got upset. Is it against the law? Am I being arrested? You're not being arrested. Then what are you doing here? My plan was, if you were admitting that it was you who wrote the comment, you could just make an apology to the person.

I'm not apologising to anybody. I can tell you that. The alternative would be that I have to call you up for an interview. I'm here to talk to you about the allegation. They've reported it to the police. So what? Obviously, we get a lot of reports like that. Are there no houses that have been burgled recently?

No rapes, no murders? Yeah, that's all going on as well. Well, then why aren't you out there doing, you know, investigating those? Because I've got to investigate everything that is reported. Well, you're not investigating houses being burgled. No, that's not my job today. Do you like to have a look at the comment on? I don't need to.

I know exactly the things I've said. So the cop shows up at her house to talk to her about what she posted, and if she just goes along with him and apologizes to the person she offended, then the problem goes away. Otherwise, you have to come downtown. We have to interview you. By the way, didn't she sound a bit like Mimi? No, not to me.

No. To me. He sounded very nervous and pissed. Which does sound a little like Mimi, but... Well, no, which is like, I know exactly what I said. You know, I'm not apologizing to anybody. I can see Mimi saying that. Well, there's that.

Yeah, well, that would definitely be... The wordage would be similar. So, you know, it's like, come on. But, anyway, you wanted to go to a clip. Yeah, I want to get this. We're talking about free speech. Freedom of speech. I'm not going to allow it to say free speech.

I don't know why freedom of speech as opposed to free speech is so important to you. Because one of these days, they're going to write some legislation that's going to be free speech and it'll be something different than the First Amendment. This happens all the time. No, it's different now. Hate speech. Hate speech. Hate of speech? Hate speech kind of just crept in all of a sudden.

and then we have our attorney general talking about it. So, no, it's freedom of speech. To me, it's awkward structure to say freedom of speech when you mean free speech. I don't mean that. Free speech is this podcast. This is free. Free speech. Okay.

Well, that's what I'm talking about, free speech. Oh, okay, free speech. Podcast, yeah. So we had discussed Harvey Levin trying to get out of the fact that his audience cheered. Yes. No, not his audience. his staff. I'm not his audience. His staff. His entire staff cheered when Charlie Kirk was killed. And he came on sheepishly saying, well, nobody like that. They weren't cheering about that.

Nobody would be working here if they were that way. Blah, blah, blah. And I've gotten plenty of evidence. I've seen him go on and off on Trump all the time. So listen to, now, so they bring up the Kimmel thing on the show. And tell me that this guy didn't just hire people that hate it. I mean, there's just, just you can tell that this whole operation is staffed by these types of people. They're all a bunch of liberals. To an extreme, just listen to Harvey in the background during this teaser. This is the beginning of a segment on Kimmel. And Harvey going, as they're talking about free speech, he keeps saying RIP, RIP.

Listen to this. It is a new day in America, a day where it feels like, more than ever, free speech and the First Amendment. RIP. Some people are saying RIP to the First Amendment after Jimmy Kimmel was officially suspended, but suspended indefinitely by ABC. Well, that's interesting. I thought that was a bit much.

And he was beside himself, RIP, RIP, and they did a teaser with RIP, RIP. So, like, he's going to be censored. Maybe he could get fired because he's a douche. Of course not. Of course not. He's a Jew. The Jews run the media. No way.

It's never going to happen. He has nothing to worry about. He's a U.S. RIP. RIP. Brother. He is, yes. His problem is he's a douche.

And, well, you don't actually watch TMZ. You just picked up that clip somewhere. I'm sure you don't watch it. I occasionally watch it. No. Because I think it's, I like to structure of the show. I find it fascinating that Harvey, who is very petite male, a lot of people, you don't realize

it because he's a petite male. He is a petite male, really. And compared, I mean, he usually is behind like a fence or behind a barrier and he's kind of leaning over drinking a soda as he, but when he comes out and stands amongst the others, he is the petite, he's a petite male, he works out a little bit. But I would like to see him next to Greg Gutfeld, and I wonder which one of the two is shorter. Well, you know, small people with big heads are very successful on television. That's the rule. Yep. I'm going to lead you into your clips with a 40-second setup.

The Pentagon will now require credentialed journalists to sign a pledge to refrain from reporting on stories that have not been authorized for release, including unclassified information. The newly named Department of War detailed in a 17-page memo that journalists who do not abide by the new policy will risk losing their access. The new restrictions come as the Trump administration beefs up its attacks on the media landscape. Defense Secretary Pete Hexsath stated that reporters will also no longer be allowed to freely roam the halls, adding that they must either follow the rules or go home. U.S. journalists have denounced the new measures as unconstitutional, calling them an attack. on the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of the press. So the press somehow believes that freedom of the press,

which, by the way, that no one calls it free press, you'll notice that. Okay. Barry Weiss. Yep. Freedom of the press has nothing to do with where you walk or what you can grab. It has to do with what you can say. It doesn't mean you can roam the halls of the Pentagon barging into whatever office you want to. Clearly, that's what they think, as according to your own.

news. That's what the, oh, they're all up in arms because we can't walk around the halls. That's, we have freedom of the press, man. Free press. Free press. Free press is what my Chinese laundry does. Pentagon clamped, and this is from NPR, there's only two clips, but they summarize it, I think. Press Corps that covers it, there are some new rules to follow, that is, if they want to keep their official credentials that allow them to report from inside the building. It is worth noting the move came at the end of a week where the Trump administration took aim at First Amendment rights on several fronts. President Trump tried to sue the New York Times. ABC took late night

host Jimmy Kimmel off the airwaves after the chairman of the FCC threatened the network's stations unless they acted against the longtime Trump critic. Trump also warned that broadcasters who air the voices of critics like Kimmel should lose their licenses. Joining us to explain what this What? I know. This is so slanted. We just played the actual. clip of what he said. There was none of that. Like, yeah, I know, this is great. Critic. Trump also warned that broadcasters who

air the voices of critics like Kimmel should lose their licenses. Joining us to explain what this latest move at the Pentagon means for reporters and for the rest of us is NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik. Hi, David. Hey, Scott. Tell us what exactly the new rule is. Well, you know,

Pete Hegseth came in as a Pentagon chief. He's a former Fox and Friends weekend host, and he promised that it would be the most transparent Pentagon in history. Instead, they've had very few press briefings, and now, and they threw out, by the way, a number of media organizations from their slots at the Pentagon, including NPR and The Watch Post, the New York Times. And now they're saying that reporters who want to report from inside the building have to pledge never to divulge or even gather any information that the Pentagon

hasn't authorized for release, and that's including unclassified information. I mean, that just doesn't sound like reporting. It doesn't sound like reporting. It doesn't sound like the kind of reporters you and I know. I mean, these are people who often have done this for many years. Many of them have, you know, covered military conflict and wars in faraway zones and have gotten to no military personnel from the grunts to the multi-star generals and commanders and, you know, have gone through corridors and hallways knocked on doors not only to get scoops, but just to get expertise and understanding of the kinds of stories they're trying to bring to the American public

and to the military personnel themselves. How are the news organizations that cover the Pentagon responding to this? Now, let me just say something to these hoity-toities here for a second. I would be on board with what you're saying if for the past 15 years, maybe even for the entire length

of our free speech podcast, we hadn't been inundated with complete non-journalistic reports of sources say, I went to college, for three months. I, for communications. And what I learned right off the bat from Vanita Zinn, who was my professor, you need to have

two sources on the record to report something, on the record. We haven't heard an on the record in over a decade. So you're not, you're not, you know, try two decades, try two decades. May I possibly write. So, well, this was also in 1980s, five, I think, no. Try four decades. Whatever. So get out of here with your, well, you know, this is not how reporters up.

Yeah, that's exactly how reporters operate. You take leaks from all kinds of people with agendas from inside the building, which is the problem, of course. And, you know, we don't want you doing that anymore. Yeah. Okay. Fine. I just look at the sales numbers.

How are we doing? Do we sell any stuff to Ukraine? Yeah, it's good to go. I think that's about right. But yes, I think all that is correct. And they've kind of, they've gotten lazy. Well, you know, what they could have done, because of the Internet, yes, you're right. Lazy is the word.

It used to be, according to the Uganda Times. Now, those are the good old days when you had the... Yeah, that's when the CIA could plan a story in the Uganda Times and they just pick it up. They don't even do that anymore. That's the way you're supposed to do it. They don't even do that anymore. Circular reporting. They're too lazy.

You're right. I haven't seen a report from the Uganda Times forever. It's hopping. I'm telling the Uganda. Is there an actual Uganda Times? I think there is a Uganda Times. There probably is. Okay, let's go ahead and finish this up. Scott, I think it's very striking that none of the TV networks that I've reached out to, including Fox News itself, CBS, NBC, CNN have said anything publicly, issued any public statements.

Meanwhile, our new editor-in-chief, Tommy Evans, as well as Matt Murray. the executive editor of the Washington Post and the New York Times corporately have released strong statements saying that this goes against First Amendment principles. There's something called prior restraint. That is, that the government preventing the press or broadcasters from reporting the news before it's actually

reported, that was taken more than 50 years ago to the Supreme Court, which upheld the idea that the government cannot do that in the Pentagon paper's case involving the Nixon administration. I mean, this makes it harder for us, the reporters, hold on. Hold on. this is a conflation of prior restraint means you can't stop the paper from printing a story

that's ready to go to the press it's got nothing to do with walking into offices knocking on doors and then shooting this shit with some guy who's bored stiff at his desk i mean come on by the way there is most definitely a uganda times yeah it's just the times everywhere yeah yeah the news before it's actually reported. That was taken more than 50 years ago to the Supreme Court, which upheld the idea that the government cannot do that in the Pentagon Papers case involving the Nixon administration. I mean, this makes it harder for us, the reporters who cover Washington to do our jobs. David, why do you think people who read the news, who listen to the news, who watch the news, or just see it scroll by on their social media feed should care about this development? Well, reporters are trying to give the American people an accurate understanding of what our military is doing. what is, you know, how our military are treated, and what's being done with their taxpayer dollars. Take the attacks by the, you know, Trump administration and defense department against what they've characterized as Venezuelan drug boats.

There's been some question about that, and there have been some lawmakers in Capitol Hill, both parties, who've raised questions about the legality of that. You know, clearly, Hegseth would like to control what kind of information gets out about, about that now contentious things. The idea of the strikes on nuclear sites in Iran, you know, the military told us they were incredibly successful. In subsequent days and weeks, we heard maybe not so much. Again, the question is, what kinds of information is the American people getting? I don't think the Pentagon gets to decide what we learn about the Pentagon. Wait a minute. So, in other words, the shooting of the drug boats, for example, to understand how that works,

we have to have a guy roaming the halls in the Pentagon just going randomly from door to door. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I need freedom of the press. The Uganda Times is owned by the government of Uganda. Here, 26. I'm glad you took a deep dive into the Uganda Times for some unknown reason, out of the blue in the middle of the show. Well, it's interesting that 26% is owned by the Ministry of State for Finance.

26% owned by the Ministry of Finance Planning and Economic Development, 19% of the National Social Security Fund. They have it split up, a different... That's interesting. Everyone gets to put their two bits in. Yes, yes, exactly. It's probably the way to go. Yeah, that's your state media.

For a state run, yeah. We don't have that here. Not yet. Not yet. New York Times is like owned by Saudis and a Mexican. I mean, come on. Yeah, exactly. By the way, the Netherlands is on fire. People have finally had it with the...

Yeah, sure. Well, it's interesting. With the asylum seekers? You got clips? It's all in Dutch, so no. There's a lot of fireworks and yelling and fighting and setting stuff on fire. But what's interesting is the main protesters who went to the Hague, where the government is, This is big open field called Malifeldt, and that's where you do your demonstration.

You know, that's the place to go. So you get thousands and thousands of people. The majority of them who are all dressed in black with their skull masks, football supporters of different teams, sometimes even rivals, they banded together to say that they are sick of it. They've had enough. They fought the cops. They set stuff on fire.

It's kicking off. We'll see. Well, yes. I mean, take my bike, exactly. Take my bike. Where's my bike, man? I forgot, yes. That's my theme.

You picked it up. You stole it. I did not. It's my theme. Where's my bike has always been my theme. Oh, people. go back and catch some clips from me bitching about the bikes. Okay.

All right. I'll give it to you. Just a little aside here. Yeah. I think you'll be interested in this. This is right up your alley. Okay. We're going to the moon.

As early as next spring, NASA hopes to send astronauts back to the moon. Oh, we can't wait for this. To orbit the moon at least. Okay, hold on a second. Before we play these clips, the more. The more of these that come out, the more I'm starting to take your side on the original. Only I've got, I'm now wondering, you had this thing that used to do to soft peddle, you or, oh, we never went to the moon, which is not an unusual commentary.

We had a famous pharmacist in the area that was a big advocate of this. But you see, I think your original thesis was we never went to the moon, but we went later to the later, because they went seven times or six. Someone looked that up and get some clips. I think that could be documented. And I would, I'm beginning to think that we maybe never went. We didn't. We didn't.

Not even for the later, no, the whole thing. Even Elon Musk says that he would have to refuel. They don't, the whole thing is a big, massive hoax. And now, even the scientists at NASA, who are so. Well, here's what bothers me, besides losing the tapes and all the rest of it, but here's what bothers me about these two clips, which I have, is why are we doing what they're going to describe? What do we need any of this for the way they're describing it?

Listen to this clip. As early as next spring, NASA hopes to send astronauts back to the moon, to orbit the moon, at least, the next step in a long plan to return to lunar landings and eventually to set foot on Mars. Commander Reid Wiseman and the rest of the crew of Artemis 2 have been training for years. When we leave planet Earth, we're zero miles an hour, and then when we come back in the atmosphere, we're doing 39 times speed of sound. We profiled the Artemis 2 astronauts on the show about a year ago, but on a mission like theirs, the people in space are just one part of a massive operation. In fact, right now, NASA is recruiting volunteers here on Earth to help track the spacecraft as it makes its way to the moon and back.

Oh, wait, bring in some ham radio operators. Volunteers like Scott Chapman helped NASA keep tabs on the automated, uncrewed Artemis One mission in 2022. After the spacecraft was no longer in sight, I assembled all those numbers into the format NASA asked for and uploaded it to their computer. Chapman is an IT specialist in Virginia, and he mainly helps small businesses with computer issues. But briefly in 2022, he got to moonlight as a spacecraft tracker.

the spacecraft is transmitting at a fixed frequency however when a transmitter and receiver are moving in relation to each other either getting farther apart or coming closer together the received frequency changes coming towards you the frequency seems to be getting higher and then as it goes away from you the frequency of what you hear gets lower as it goes past you and radio signals do the exact same thing. Chapman is widely known in the amateur radio community, and over the radio waves, he goes by his FCC-issued handle, K-4-KDR. Much in the way... Nah, he's not even an extra loser. Widely known in the amateur radio community, and over the radio waves, he goes by his FCC-issued handle, K-4-KDR.

Much in the way the local television might be, does it be... Hold on a second. Would you call that a handle? No, that's his call sign. Yeah, it's not a handle. It's like, oh, we have our local NBC station here and their handle is, you know, KNTV. It's not a handle. I'm looking them up right now.

Yeah, I look him up. Yeah, I'm looking them up. Yeah, I'm looking them up. A call sign of that local station is in the amateur radio hobby. That is essentially your name on the radio. With his antenna up, he learned NASA was looking for operators to assess. assist in navigating Artemis 1. He wanted it.

Now, um, I have, this confused me a little bit. He says the further away you get, the frequency changes? No, as you,

no. It's like, uh, the train coming and going past, you know, past you as the, as you're, as you're,

as you're accelerating away. Sound, yes. No, as, no, the frequency would, no, it's the same as sound, sound and,

you know, sounds a frequency. So as you're going away, the frequency that the signal would be transmitting would be changing. It would be lengthening. And as it's coming towards you, it would be compressing. And so you're going to have these different frequencies. The frequency is going to alter just enough that you need a ham in the middle of nowhere to do this because we couldn't do it in 1969. I don't know how they got the signals back and forth.

Well, yeah, but the shift is minute. I mean, that's like side-man. I would think it would be fairly small. Yeah. Is that the doppler? Because you're not doing a million miles an hour. No, it's very minute, very minimal. Because, you know, we bounce signals off the ionosphere.

And there's, you know, yeah, you tune it a little bit. We're talking minor kilohertz variate. Let me listen to that last bit again from this nerd with this baseball cap on backwards. The spacecraft is transmitting at a fixed frequency. However, when a transmitter and receiver are moving in relation to each other, either getting farther apart or coming closer together, the received frequency changes coming towards you. The frequency seems to be getting higher, and then as it goes away from you, the frequency of what you hear gets lower as it goes past you. And radio signals do the exact same thing. Chapman is widely known in the amateur radio community, and over the radio waves,

he goes by his FCC-issued handle, K4KDR. Much in the way the local television might be designated as whatever the call sign of that local station is. In the amateur radio hobby, that is essentially your name on the radio. With his antenna up, he learned NASA was looking for operators to assist in navigating Artemis I. He wanted it. Oh, brother. Your point is well made. It's like, do you have a $24.6 billion budget, but we got to get ham radio guys.

Okay, sure. I'm logging into my QRZ account to get this guy's full details. Yeah, go, I thought you'd have it by now. So while you're doing that, let's play part two. I forgot my credentials. But I have it in my password manager. At first glance, it seems overwhelming. Certainly a person living in a rule.

Hold on. It was overwhelming, but it wasn't overwhelming in 1969, but it's overwhelming today. Why are you taking my gig, man? It's like all of a sudden you're on, you know, I'm just annoyed by this, these sorts of reports and how everybody's breathless about it as though, oh, okay, that makes sense. It doesn't make sense at all. At first glance, it seems overwhelming, certainly a person living. In the rural area of Virginia isn't going to be capable of monitoring the signals and reporting the data that they are looking for.

But I thought to myself, wouldn't it be nice if this project had one participant who had a very small system? So I went ahead and replied, and much to my surprise, was selected for the program. Chapman's job, tracking the signals beamed down from the automated spacecraft as it orbited the Earth. As a hobbyist, he had the tools, good enough for NASA. I did have a one-meter dish, which you can hold in your hands, and that was mounted on a rotator on my roof. So in the eyes of the people managing that program, they determined that I was maybe capable of receiving the signal,

and ultimately I did. Applications to help track the next mission, one filled with astronauts traveling further from Earth than any human has in 50 years, are due in late October. This is a bunch of nonsense. they do this to, I think, to show that they're relevant because, you know, they've got citizens who are interested in this.

This guy's logbook isn't even on QRZ. He's not a real ham. Let me see. We're sure he's a real ham. No, but I mean, you've got to be uploading your logbook, man. Oh, you mean he's not like a nutball ham? Yeah, exactly. So this program I'm looking at it, volunteers worldwide.

to track lunar journey of NASA's Artemis 1 mission. Look, I mean, this guy, oh, I love, I love communicating with the International Space Station. Oh, I, I, wait, wait, I've got a thesis. All right. Fake. They're going to have a bunch of these hams. There's going to be so many of them that they can't, they won't have to worry about people saying that the whole thing was hoaxed. No, how about this?

All you need is. some satellite that sends down a signal, phase shifts, you know, do a little frequency shift, and then say, hello, I am Artemis I, B, B, B, Dib, B, B, Bid, B, Bid, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B. Maybe it's just to prove that it's real. It's kind of the same thing you're saying, I believe. Yours is slightly better. So, hmm. Yeah, yeah, same basic thesis.

Let me see. Just to get to everyone involves, so, you know, look at all. these people, this confirms. Hey, error. Hey, error. What frequency is Artemis 1 transmitting on? So. What? What? What? What frequency is Artemis 1 transmitting on? Artemis 1 transmitted its main signals on the X band, around 8 gigahertz for uplink and 7.2 for downlink. NASA's go-to for deep space chatter. But if you're hunting amateurs,

check the harmonics near 2 gigahertz. Folks like Scott Tilly picked those up easy from their backyards. Oh, well, something NASA couldn't do. Oh, we need help. You're right. It's a hoax. They're hoaxing by getting all these amateurs to say, yeah, I receive the signal, man.

You know, I also... This is a possibility that I have to accept. I also once, you know, I tracked the international space space station stood out on the back deck when we're still in Austin, like an idiot, pointing a yogi antenna at the sky, and I got a message back from the International Space Station. It could have been from Elon Musk's startling for all I know. I couldn't see it. You don't know if it's really Artemis.

One could be anything in low orbit. And he's, and so he has a one, what do you have a one mega, what dish did he have? One meter disc. which small. Yeah. Two gigahertz. Oh, all right. Sounds hoaxy to me.

This will continue this saga. I like it. I like it. And by the way, everyone's complaining like, well, I don't like the money we send to Israel because, you know, we can't eat at home. Well, stop, stop spending three times as much on this dumb stuff. Who cares? It's dusty. We know that.

Well, we're talking about, you just mentioned Israel. I do have a Gaza report. And this is the NPR. You know, NPR has changed as voices, it's got new people. And now they have, they actually, I'm pretty sure this is Dracula reporting from Gaza. Take a listen. Israeli airstrikes across Gaza City continue as the Israeli military forces residents out of the area, home to about one million people. Gaza health officials say at least 34 Palestinians were killed yesterday from airstorms.

strikes. And Pira Zanas Babas reports, the situation is deteriorating rapidly for civilians unable to get out of Gaza City with many families running out of water. In the heart of Gaza City, thirst is now spreading faster than the fear of bombs. The municipality says 75% of central water wells have been destroyed or damaged by Israel, leaving hundreds of thousands with little or no access to clean water. Families still trapped north of the city have been unable to evacuate or forced to walk as far. as 15 miles to reach the south. Evacuating is expensive

as much as $6,000 to secure a vehicle out and detain to stay. Some have even returned home after failing to find a safe place in the southern Gaza. That is what Al Jammala family did. After failing to find safety, they returned to their home early Saturday. I want to suck your blood.

I was waiting for it. Good one. Well, I think NPR blew it because what an opportunity they've missed. They've missed a massive opportunity to slam President Trump and his entire extended family. Global News in Canada had it. Bezal Smotrich had just been asked what he thought should happen in Gaza. Controversial far-right minister answered that the first phase of urban renewal in the strip was done, the demolition, and that the time to build was coming. Smotrich says to listen to him. There's a plan on

President Trump's desk that will turn what's happening into a real estate. state bonanza. I'm not kidding, he says, it pays off. Now, the Washington Post earlier this month reported the Trump administration is considering a plan to run Gaza for a decade as a trusteeship. Palestinians living in the enclave would be moved out, at least temporarily, while billions would be poured in to develop the territory as a tourism resort and high-tech manufacturing hub. Residential areas would be built up inland away from the coast. It was Trump's son-in-law, first floated the idea of developing Gaza, saying last year its waterfront property could be very valuable. That idea seemed to stick in the mind of Donald Trump when he returned to the White House.

I don't want to be cute. I don't want to be a wise guy, but the Riviera of the Middle East, this could be something that could be so magnificent. Well, the only person who appears to be speaking publicly about the plan is Smotrich, the ultra-nationalist leader of Israel's religious Zionist party. Reported Washington plan for Gaza is being criticized by observers and legal experts. Many say any displacement of Palestinians out of the enclave would be coercive at best and violate international law. Motrich, on the other hand, appears to be saying it doesn't go far enough that Israel deserves a part of the land in Gaza in return for the money it's spent on the war.

Man, what an opportunity NPR missed. They got sound bites and everything. By the way, you know who's going to pay for this Riviera? The Arabs, they're all in on it. Saudi Arabia, Qatar. They're like, oh, yeah, this is good. They are. They're being very coy about it.

Of course. As one of our boots on the ground said, even the attack in Qatar, the Qatar is like, well, it's not about sovereignty, but just don't hit any civilians. That's not okay. No one likes Hamas, elected by the people of so-called Palestine in 1988 with their kill-all-Jews. It's really amazing. The lack of historical knowledge of people everywhere is just flabbergasting. Who really occupied those territories?

Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Those guys get away Scott Free. It's amazing. and I'm pretty sure the Palestinians will be sent to Syria. That's why President Trump made nice with the terrorists over there. You take them. Because Egypt doesn't want them. That's a possibility.

Egypt doesn't want them. Jordan doesn't want them. They don't. No, Jordan gave up, I mean, the West Bank, which is actually East, is actually the West Bank of Jordan. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

they fought a war over that. Anyway, meanwhile, more importantly, back home, didn't get as much play as it should have, but the president, wow, he came out with a couple of executive orders regarding immigration. Very interesting. The first one is while he was on his way back from the UK. he came up with an immediate, you know, executive order to be implemented immediately regarding H-1B visas. One of the most abused visas. Oh, this is great. It gets really good, huh?

One of the most abused visa systems in our current immigration system has been the H-1B non-immigrant visa program. This is supposed to allow highly skilled laborers who work in fields that Americans don't work in to come into the United States. of America. What this proclamation will do is raise the fee that companies pay to sponsor H-1B applicants to $100,000. This will ensure that the people they're bringing in are actually very highly skilled and that they're not replaceable by American workers. So it'll protect American workers, but ensure that companies have a pathway to hire truly extraordinary people and bring them to the United States to work. We need workers. We need workers. We need great workers and there's pretty much

ensures that that's what's going to happen. I think, Sean, do you agree with that? Well, they're $100,000 per year. So the whole idea is no more will these big tech companies or other big companies train foreign workers. They have to

pay the government $100,000, then they have to pay the employee. So it's just not economic. If you're going to train somebody, you're going to train one of the recent graduates from one of the great university. across our land, trained Americans, stop bringing in people to take our jobs. That's the policy here.

$100,000 a year for H-1B visas and all of the big companies are on board. We've spoken to them about the gold card. They love it. They love it. They really love it. They need it. Now, that's that part of the end. Are you sure they love it?

Are you sure that the big tech companies love it? Because the Indians abroad in India, they sure don't love it. It's the latest effort by the Trump administration to curb or raise more money from legal immigration. Companies will now have to pay an annual $100,000 fee on H-1B visa application. Annual? I don't know if it was, they'd have to pay $100,000? Yeah, no, it's annual. He has to be renewed.

A move that deals a major blow to the U.S. tech industry, which relies heavily on workers from India and China. It is a loss for America, not India. Those who go abroad and can't pay that much money for the visa will open. The office is here, and when they work in India, which is already making economic progress, it will contribute to that. So I think this hike is beneficial for us. The Indian government says the plan is likely to have humanitarian consequences, particularly the disruption caused to families.

President Donald Trump's threat to crack down on H-1B visas has become a major flashpoint with the tech industry, which relies on H-1B visa-holded more than any other sector of the U.S. economy. Supporters of the program, including Tesla CEO Elon. on month, say it brings in highly skilled workers essential to filling in talent gaps and keeping firms competitive. The Trump administration, on the other hand, says hiking the fee will mean more opportunities for American workers. The country would rather not have to pay $100,000, but they'd rather, how do you do that? You hire American. So there's an incentive to hire American,

but there may be instances where it's better off doing, through expertise or whatever it may be. The new fee is going into effect Sunday. It will not be applied to existing. holders of valid faces reentering the country. From what I hear, there's entire groups online who are making airline reservations and that they don't intend to take but keeping them up until the last minute and then canceling so that these, so they can't come back before the deadline and sneak into the country. It's probably our own spooks doing it. Well, talking about, it brings up a point, which I want to read a letter.

A letter? Not an email, but a letter. I'm sorry. I print mine out, so to me it's like a letter. All right. Regarding Americans to getting these jobs and something we discussed. This is from producer Trevor. ITM, I wanted to elaborate on the other producer who said zoomers can't use a tape measure.

As 26-year-old carpenter and tradesmen, I see this all the time with new hires. As to what they don't understand, for example, you ask them to cut a piece of lumber at, say, 120, I'm sorry, 127 and 516ths. First of all, they ask, how do I find out how long it is? And then once you tell them to use this. thing, also known as a tape measure, they then have absolutely no clue what a 16th is or how to read the tape. So you explain that there's 16 marks on the tape measure between each inch and count each mark as one 16th. Then you go and say something like, cut that at 65 and three-eighths.

And they have no idea what an eighth is. Wow. And it's easy an entire day, an entire day worth of explaining how to use a tape measure. Well, you're not going to get many engineers at the highest level of H-1B dumb that if you can't even do that. Well, maybe everyone will start, stop dumbing down our children. and consider, you know, changing. The whole Department of Education, all of this started during, was it Reagan?

Carter. Carter. I mean, all of this was a bad idea. We were turning on morons. It started with Carter. Reagan tried to get rid of it. He failed. Yeah. And it just got worse and worse and worse.

So that was only half of the announcement. The big announcement is the one we've been waiting for, The gold card. So this executive order is entitled The Gold Card. It will set up a new pathway, a new visa pathway for foreigners of extraordinary ability who are committed to

supporting the United States for a payment of $1 million to the U.S. Treasury or if a corporation is sponsoring them, $2 million by that corporation, and that will give them access to expedited visa treatment as part of this new gold card program.

One of the biggest problems we have is that people they go to the best schools and they do great and they get great marks and then they're thrown out of the country you're not allowed to stay this way a corporation will be able to like a signing button in baseball or football corporation will be able to get them to stay in the country and i think it's going to be tremendously successful howard would you say you would have you Sure. So historically, the employment-based green card program led in 281,000 people a year. And those people, on average, earned $66,000 a year on average, and they were five times more likely to go on assistance programs of the government. So we were taken in the bottom quartile, below the average of the average of the government.

It was illogical. The only country in the world that was taking in the bottom quartile. So what we are doing there is we are going to stop doing that. We're going to only take extraordinary people at the very top. Instead of people trying to take the jobs from Americans, they're going to create businesses and create jobs for Americans. And this program will raise more than $100 billion for the Treasury of the United States. which we'll use for cutting taxes and paying down debt.

Now, okay, hold one second. Yeah. So about a year ago, or no, I'm sorry, early in the Trump administration, it had to be just, what, five months ago. Yeah. He brought up this gold card idea, and my understanding then was the gold card cost $5 million

and guaranteed you citizenship. No. What happened to that? Well, that's the platinum card. you see they didn't talk about that uh trump card dot gov the trump gold card is gold card is here unlock life in america so you get this it's the website is just like a credit card company is great exclusive privileges now the trump gold interest well yes listen to this the trump gold card for a processing fee after DHS vetting, a $1 million contribution receive U.S. residency in record time with the Trump

gold card. But then you have the Trump platinum card. Listen to this. Sign up now and secure your place on the waiting list for the Trump platinum card. So I guess it's coming that it wasn't in the executive order. For a processing fee and after DHS vetting, a $5 million contribution, you will have the ability to spend up to 270 days in the United States, here comes, without being subject to U.S. taxes on non-U.S. tax income. This is, this, come on in, people. All you rich British people, your Lammies, come on in. That's a very interesting twist. That is an interesting twist. To get rich people who are sick of what's going on in Europe,

especially. Yep. And maybe even some Chinese. And have all your money sent to America and no income tax. That's dynamite. That's a good idea. Yeah. You've got to see this website.

It's the president with an eagle. Well, okay. What is the? Trump card.gov. You're going to laugh. I'm sure. This guy is amazing. Trump cards

It's so good 45th and 47th President of the United States Little American flag there Got a little presidential seat Oh he's on the card Of course he is With the eagle

It's so good Yeah Oh my God And do you know how many Brits And Dutch and French All email me And he got a form you can fill out right there on the page.

Oh, yeah. You sign up now. No obligation. Yes. I know. It's perfect. It's perfect. This is so American. Oh, there's also a gold card and a corporate gold card. The corporate gold card is even funnier. I mean, I wonder if you can get miles. You go further down. There's an animated eagle. Oh, where's the animated eagle?

He's right at the bottom. It says, submit your application, the eagle turns its head. Oh, he does. Someone puts some work into this one. Yeah, this is not a slouch of a site. Oh, designed in D.C. by the National Design Studio. Well, good job, everybody. This is too funny.

It's the most American thing I've ever seen. Wow. Unlocked life in America. Yeah. There are so many, you know, we should also have a green card, you know, like the green, well, I guess you can't call it the green card. You know, we should, the, what, we need a level for people with. like only a hundred thousand diners the diners club card trump diners card yes exactly i i don't know i just get a i get a kick out of it it's just funny to me it's just funny i'm sure somebody

finds it offensive well probably offensive that we're talking about in that same uh in that same sash oval sash the what the oval session session session session session In that same oval sash. Sesh. Sesh. Session. Sesh. So you're going to be a stickler about freedom of speech,

but you're going to use terms like Sesh. Yes. And Suss. I'm going to use all these terms. Suss? Suss. Yeah, you don't know. Where are you been, man?

Suss used to be used to suss something out. No, that's double S. Suss. S is suspect. Suspicious Suss. Wow. Here's what the president said about former president biden and joe biden didn't know what he was uh we had a man that didn't know what he was there we had a man by the way that uh didn't approve if you take a look at what's

happening in congress we had a man that signed everything with almost everything with an auto pen and he didn't tell the people from the auto pen whoever was using the one man that used it predominantly said that biden only spoke to him twice and it was only about the weather So those pardons that he gave her illegal, he gave illegal pardons. And that includes a congressman that destroyed and deleted all the information from J6. They deleted everything because it turned out that they were wrong. It turned out that I offered 10,000 National Guard or Soldians, whatever they wanted, and you wouldn't have had a problem.

And they turned it down. And Anthony Pelosi turned it down. And the mayor of Washington, D.C. turned it down. they deleted everything and they destroyed it illegally destroyed it and Biden gave them pardon and Biden gave a lot of other people pardons that frankly would be in jail if it wasn't for those pardons but those burdens still are illegal illegal they're going to go after that yeah they're going to try I don't know how they're going to how far they're going to get well the the big thing which I'm sure you heard was let me see it was the president said

truth, his truth to Pam Bondi. I thought I had a clip of that. Hmm. Where he basically went on truth social and posted a truth and said, Pam Bondi, what are you doing, Palm Bandi?

You got to, like, arrest these people. Where is it? I guess I thought I clipped that. Oh, well, nobody's arresting anybody. We already know that. Well, I think what the way I read it was President Trump is on board with getting her out. That's how I read it. After the Miller, the Miller pod fiasco, I think she's on the way out.

Because it was. Well, she hasn't done anything. No. And it does appear as though she's just a dud. And you're right. See, she sachets when she walks, which is a bit. somewhat annoying, to be honest about it. Let me read this to you.

Let me see. I have it here somewhere. It was, it was, he didn't end it with thank you for your attention to this important matter, which meant he was really pissed. Yeah. That would be true. Yeah. Everyone has the headline, but why don't they just post a picture of it?

Oh, my goodness. This is the problem we have. It really is. Oh, he deleted the post, apparently. Okay. Oh, he did? Well, let me see. just to make it.

That's unusual for him. Yes, to make it more suss. By the way, we have some other suggestions from the troll room, the coal card. Amazon offers I only employee,

please. The coal card, the brown card, the algae card, the jelly of the month card. There you go. Jelly of the month. American jelly of the month.

Yeah. Let's see This was There was a President was at the What was he at? The Cornerstone Institute? Have you heard of the Cornerstone Institute?

No, I've never heard of them. Well, it was a big gala. With gays? Yeah, the A gaze. Of course. Let me see. The Cornerstone Institute, American Cornerstone Institute,

who are these people? Oh, the Ben Carson is on. on the on the cover here they got american cornerstone institute what these guys do well so they had a gala yes probably with and the president spoke there in tuxedo no less then he says something pretty interesting marty mccary who's fantastic he's done amazing he's done great thank you he's done great he's really amazing and they're really working on it with bobby they're working on Bobby's so non-controversial. I wish we could get somebody who's a little bit more exciting in there.

But they're doing something. And I think we have, frankly, that's a big announcement. I think we have a bigger announcement coming. I hope on Monday, Marty, it's enough. We have to announce. We have to make the announcement. It's so big. We can't let people keep doing this.

I don't want to wait any longer. We don't need anything more. And if it's wrong, it's not going to be wrong. But if it is wrong, it's fine. We have to do it. Because we're going to have an announcement on autism on Monday. It's got to be Monday. I don't want to do it Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

And I think it's going to be a very important announcement. I think it's going to be one of the most important things that we will do. Because what's happened with autism, do you know that if you go back 15 years, 15 years, maybe a little bit longer? It was one in 10,000 children at autism. Bobby told me, it's hard to believe that this is correct. That as of recently, it was one in ten boys. Oh, big announcement, not Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Monday.

Monday. It's going to be Monday. American Cornerstone Institute is Ben Carson's outfit. Dr. Ben Carson. Yeah, he's very well. He's respected. Yeah, he is. Not very good publicity, but he's respected.

Yeah, I think he's getting the presidential medal of freedom from the president. Well, since you brought up to autism, I do have a series of Vax clips. Oh, yay. Vax mania. This was played out because they're all, everyone's, oh, they're going to do this, they're going to do this. They don't do anything, of course. This is typical. It's like a James Comer congressional committee.

They're going to, oh, they're going to put the piece. They got there. They're putting the dots together. They're going to get. Biden, Biden kid, you know, they're going to find the banks. They're going to find everything this and that, and then nothing comes of it. So let's listen to the, so they're all bent out of shape about Kennedy's new Vax panel and they haven't changed anything, but here we go.

Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has promised to change the country's vaccine policies. And during contentious meetings in Atlanta this week, vaccine advisors for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began to do just that. The panel was handpicked by Kennedy. NPR health correspondent Ping Wong was at their two-day meeting and joins us now. Hi, Ping. Hey, Scott. Hey, Scott. What kind of changes did the advisors make? So they voted to narrow the recommendation on the COVID booster shot, and they also made a change in the childhood vaccine schedule of recommending against a measles and chickenpox combo shot for young children. And while these changes weren't as drastic as some medical and public health experts had feared.

Stopped a clip. So that's it. By the way, you're going to hear a bunch of clips here, where they're mostly. and groaning and moaning and groaning about these massive changes. One, the COVID shot. They kind of changed the way they're looking at it. Two, they're going to split off the chicken pock shot. But you still got to get all these shots.

That's it, by the way. I'm just going to tell you in advance. That's the big, horrible news. Well, to be fair to NPR, we also were able to fill about 45 minutes talking about Florida ounces. So, you know. The recommendation on the COVID booster shot, and they also made a change in the childhood vaccine schedule recommending against a measles and chicken pox combo shot for young children. And while these changes weren't as drastic as some medical and public health experts had feared, this meeting did show that these members, who Kennedy chose after firing the entire panel back in June, is starting to figure out how this works.

And they're starting off on an ambitious agenda, backed by Kennedy, who has a history of being very critical of vaccines. Let's just make this news you can use for a moment. I'm sure a lot of people listening or wondering, can I... Let's make this news you can use. I think we should use that. That's a great slogan, John. No agenda, news you can use. Works, and they're starting off on an ambitious agenda,

backed by Kennedy, who has a history of being very critical of vaccines. Wait, stop again. Let's just make... This ambitious agenda is what I just said. Yeah, separating the facts. Change in the way we look at COVID vaccines, and we're going to split off one of the vaccines. It's very ambitious. Very ambitious. It's very ambitious. Very ambitious.

How this works. And they're starting off on an ambitious agenda, backed by Kennedy, who has a history of being very critical of vaccines. Let's just make this news you can use for a moment. I'm sure a lot of people listening or wondering, can I go into a pharmacy, a CBS, whatever, and get a vaccine shot like I have the last few years. Can I go into a pharmacy, a CBS, whatever, and get a vaccine shot like I have the last few years? The answer is mixed. So in some states, yes. And in other states, it's not clear. And that's because the group has recommended the vaccine to everybody under something called shared clinical decision making, which means that patients are supposed to talk to a medical provider about risks and benefits before they get one. But at this point, billions of COVID shots have been given out.

So this kind of counseling would add a new hurdle. So wait a minute. So they're going to tell you that the shot is maybe dangerous or it can do this and that and the other thing, and that's bad. But what they've already given, look, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam. Yes, John. You never call me Adam. This must be serious. They've given out a billion shots. Yeah. So what's the big deal? Just keep giving shots out. What could possibly be wrong with that, that idea? Just you've given a billion out.

Well, I'm sure that Scott asked that very question in clip number two. Wrong. Also, the panel wanted input on what goes into that count. They voted to add more discussion about theoretical, theoretical, theoretical, theoretical risks to the vaccine information sheet. And Retzef Levy, the panel member who led that discussion, focused on things he said were unknown. Do we know all the answers? No. Did we hear satisfactory explanations from the companies and the FDA? Absolutely no. Okay, one thing about that clip, which I emphasized there.

Yes, I heard it. Theoretical. They're going to give you the theoretical risks. No. These aren't theoretical risks. No, that's a lie. These are actual risks. It's a total lie. These are documented contraindications and side effects that have been, they don't make them up. I mean, if it was anal leakage, you wouldn't make that up. You wouldn't put it in. No, it's not a theoretical risk. She says she uses a propagandistic term theoretical risk. It's not theoretical risk. It's not theoretical. Take away their license.

Oh, you know, now think about it, you could do that with NPR stations. I'm going to start to complain. Yes, write a letter. So that information sheet for consumers could go from one that summarizes the most important documented side effects of the COVID vaccine, things like fevers, body aches, a rare risk, a rare risks, a rare risk of heart problems for young men to one that includes a lot of speculation, speculation, speculation, which could confuse people and dissuade them from getting vaccinated. Okay, so that's clearly the headline here, but I'm wondering what else was on the table. Hold on a second. What is her name again? I need to look her up now.

What is her name? Oh, they said it at the very beginning. The secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has promised to change the country's vaccine policies. And during contentious meetings in Atlanta this week, vaccine advisors for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began to do picked by Kennedy. NPR health correspondent Ping Wong was penguin. Pengwon. Penguin. Penguin.

God goodness. How do I spell that? Peng Wong. Ping Wong. Ping Wang. Ping Wong. I'm now, we're racist. I can't believe it. No, you are. You are. Not me. Okay. It's P-N-P-H-U-A-N-H-U-A-N-G. Ping-H-A-N-G. Okay. I'll look her up where we play clip number three. So that information sheet for consumers could go from one that summarizes the most important documented side effects of the COVID vaccine, things like fevers, body aches, a rare risk, a rare risk. a rare risk of heart problems for young men, so one that includes a lot of speculation, speculation, which could confuse people and dissuade them from getting vaccinated. Okay, so that's clearly the headline here, but I'm wondering what else was on the table.

So do you think Penn Wong is a doctor or has some expertise in the medical field? Wouldn't that she is the correspondent here for? Would you not think that? I'm guessing she's a drug salesman. Let's see. She joined NPR in 2019. as the newsrooms first reflect America Fellow, working with shows, desks, and podcasts

to bring more diverse voices to air and online. She's a DIA hire. Her reporting with NPR's visuals team on tracking COVID-19 data won her an Edward R. Murrow Award. Yeah, we haven't won that. Her, not yet. Wong's experiences span categories and continents.

Here we go. She was the executive producer of Data Made to Matter, a podcast. Whoa, there's an Edward R. Merle Award topic right there. Datamatta. That's a podcast from the MIT Sloan School of Management. And she has taught. What do you think she has taught at the Northeastern University? Communications.

Podcasting. What? Yes. She's taught. there's a class in podcasting at northeastern apparently she has taught podcasting at northeastern university how come i never get these gigs how come you weren't contacted by her for some syllabus information podcasting course northwest i got to find northeastern northeastern oh well what's that's different eastern university well i can't wait to see this do they have a i'm it's a minor

It's a minor. But, you can get a minor in podcasting. You can actually get a degree. Yes. Wow. I should get an honorary degree. I'll do the commencement speech. In an era of profound disruption for legacy media podcasting has emerged as one of the most

durable and successful features of the new media and information ecosystem. Listenership continues to rise with devoted audiences for long form audio storytelling. Like, she's doing storytelling right here. Narrative news, true crime, personality-driven interview shows, et cetera. This minor is for students from a variety of disciplines interested in learning interviewing, performance, research, and production skills required to create high-quality non-fiction audio programs in a variety of formats. I'm betting dollars to, ten bucks on the line with anybody that she credits Adam Carolla with

inventing podcasting. Yes. You only need a 2.0 great average to get in. It's typical. Yeah. Well, that would be normal for podcasters. For podcasters, yeah, podcast. You get.

Okay. All right. Clip forward. So there was a proposal to recommend that states require prescriptions for COVID vaccines, which would make them much harder for patients to get. and after a charged discussion on it, it was defeated. And the panel also tabled a proposal to change the hepatitis B vaccine schedule for babies. Now, some members said that the current policy, which recommends a shot right after birth, is working fine and they saw no reason to change it.

Now, there was some confusion, and it did seem at times that members didn't seem to fully understand how their votes would affect policies and coverage. To that point, what is the impact of these votes? What do they affect? This group's recommendations form the basis for which vaccines are covered by health insurance or subsidized through federal programs. And an example of how that works is to look at the other vote that they did take on the MMRV vaccine. That's a combination shot for measles, mumps, rebella, and chicken pox. And this vaccine comes with a slightly higher risk of causing fevers that can lead to seizures in children under four. Kids generally recover from them pretty quickly. What?

Wait a minute. So a kid under four gets a stupid shot and they have seizures. Yeah. But they recover. They tend to recover rather quickly. I don't want my kid having seizures. Theoretical. Theoretical seizures.

Not actual seizures. Just theoretical. That's unbelievable. It's completely believable. I think we finish off here. They can also get the same protection from getting the MMR and the chicken pox shot separately. So that's how most kids get it. But up to 15% of parents asked for the combo shot.

And here's why, according to pediatrician Cody Meisner, who's the only member who served on this panel before. Some parents don't want to administer. Wait a minute. I thought they kicked everybody off. This guy has served on it before. That's interesting. That's what they said.

They kicked everybody off, put a new group in, but this guy was there before. How does that work? Some parents don't want to administer two doses of a vaccine if they can receive one. one and get the same degree of coverage. Why are we taking away that, that option? This is coverage access, coverage, access. We already know the insurance company said they're going to cover the COVID vaccine. We had that on the last show.

Yeah. So this is just more of the same. CBS had a report about this, which I have queued up for us. There was pushback during today's meeting of the CDC's vaccine advisory committee as the panel debated a new recommendation for the combined MMRV shot. But if a parent wants to get a single dose, why are we

taking away that that option? The same guy. Same clip. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. A single dose. Why are we taking away that option? The proposal, children under four should get one shot for measles,

mumps, and rubella, and then a separate one for varicella, better known as chicken pox. It's recommended is going to create more confusion among the chocolate. Earlier this year, I'm confused. It's not that hard. Separate one for Verasela,

better known as chicken pox. This recommendation is going to create more confusion among the chocolate. Earlier this year, Health and Human Services Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired all the panel members and picked their replacements, some who share his vaccine skepticism. Thursday, the committee chairman, defended the new group. You have falsely being called antivacuous, but your stance is not only pro-children, but also

pro-science, pro-public health, and pro-vaccines. Here on Capitol Hill, the fired CDC director told lawmakers she was pressured by Secretary Kennedy to rubber-stamp the committee's recommendations without first considering the scientific evidence. He just wanted blanket approval. The panel is also debating changes to the hepatitis. be vaccine recommendation. Much of the data is considered

pretty settled. Dr. Jody guest is the senior vice chair of the Department of Epidemiology. She said most of the data is pretty settled. Listen to that again. Pick evidence. He just wanted blanket approval. The panel is also debate. Wait, oh, actually I want to hear it again.

Pro public health and pro vaccines. Here on Capitol Hill, the fired CDC director told lawmakers she was pressured by Secretary Kennedy to rubber-stamp the committee's recommendations without first considering the scientific evidence. He just wanted blanket approval. The panel is also debating changes to the hepatitis B vaccine recommendation.

Much of the data is considered pretty settled. Dr. Jody. What does that mean? The data is settled? Most of the data. Is considered pretty settled? Yeah, that's a vague thing. You know, by the way, what they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're

defending this woman. They should be playing. I don't have the clips, but I could go back and get him. Rand Paul grilled her in front of Congress, and she's an idiot. He just wanted blanket approval. The panel is also debating changes to the hepatitis B vaccine recommendation. Much of the data is considered pretty settled. Dr. Jody guest is the senior vice chair of the Department of Epidemiology at Emory University. She says these vaccines are safe and effective. And there's not new evidence out there that we have been following. There's not new evidence out there that we have been following. Is this woman a lawyer?

So there may be evidence out there, but we're not following it. We don't follow them on Twitter. It would show that you would want to change the guidance. Dr. Guest also warns. That is, that is, wow, I can't believe that. So there is evidence out there, but we're not following it so we don't make any changes. Says these vaccines are safe and defrains. And there's not new evidence out there that we have been following that would show that you would want to change the guidance.

Dr. Guest also warns any changes could lead to health insurance companies limiting coverage. Ah, no. No, they want your kids sick. They want seizures. Come on. They're not going to change that. It's a small investment. Cover the Vax customer for life. You know, you want to. to take some wagers on what the big announcement is on Autism Monday? What do you think? Well, here's what I... Okay, so far Kennedy has been thwarted at every turn, and they're still going after him. And this new panel is useless, and they're still going to give the kids the 80 shots or whatever

it amounts to, including the HEPB shot four minutes after they're born, which is... Well, that was in the clip as well. It's on the table. I'm guessing they're going to come up with nothing. The big announcement's going to be something that's inconsequential. We'll give every child a gold card. Well, obviously, from what we've been looking at since the discredited report, what's the research, discredited research from Andrew, what was his name again?

The, I don't know. Why isn't, no, no, vaccine, okay, let me ask the, let me ask the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, second. Who was the scientists who did research that proved autism was caused by vaccines, but was, uh, discredited? Well, that sucks. We should be tried again. Who was the scientists who did a research survey that showed that vaccines caused autism and was discredited, disbarred, and thrown out of society? That'd be Andrew Wakefield. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

Long way to go. Wakefield. Yeah. Wakefield Okay That's what I would be hoping Because at least Millions of parents

Would have an answer And we could have a lot of lawsuits That's the problem right there Well maybe it's not Maybe it's a benefit If we can sue a lot of these companies Well I would be yeah Also if they just take these advertisers

Off the air that would help So they don't own the media They're going to have to do four minute ads or four-minute ads, which would be funny. Yeah, because everyone would be like, oh, these ads suck, this medication sucks. I don't want all that because they have to have all of the side effects in the ad. That would be good.

Okay, so I got the clips if we have, how much time do we have before we go to a break? Well, it depends. What's your, what's your topic? Well, there's a lot of clips here. This is the clips you wanted for Matt Gates' show where the guy who was embedded with the Russian Army. It goes on and on about how Ukraine is not what we think it is. And this may be a piece of pure propaganda. I think we should do it.

I think we should do it now. It could be a piece of propaganda. It turns out I mentioned, and the last show, I got a couple of notes, mentioning other people, I guess, that have been embedded in the Russian army that are Western reporters and they're, I don't know who they are, never heard of them. This guy here is somewhat obscure as far as I can tell. I don't know if these reports are accurate. It's a disclaimer is clear.

It's hypothetical embeddedness. I have no idea, but I think it's definitely worth listening to. And Matt Gates, a former congressman, is not a dumb idiot. No. And so the fact that he's got this guy on, his name's Pearson Sharp. Spook name.

It's a spook name. Is he even Britt? No. But as you mentioned you the spook name. He has certain characteristics as possible, and he has a kind of a spook joke at the beginning of his presentation. You'll hear it. OAN investigative reporter Pearson Sharp, host of the Sharp report here on One American News, has traveled to the front lines. He's spent time with the troops fighting this war, and he joins us now from Russia. Pearson, first of all, it's good to see you safe and sound. It looked from some of the snippets of your reporting. I was able to see that you were pretty close to the front lines and the fighting. Tell us where you are and what you have learned about this war from your reporting and your journalism. First, I'd like to read this pre-prepared speech from my KGB handler.

No, I'm kidding. Ah, listen to this, about Pearson Sharp from his own website. As a privacy junkie, I'm slowly getting rid of my social media accounts. Yeah, as a spook, that's what you do. All right, good joke about the KGB. Of course, if it was updated joke, it would be FSB, but he uses KGB because that's a reference we all know. Yeah, yeah, FSP would be no good. I agree. Yeah, no one would get it. But that's what it should be if he's going to be reading a

prepared statement. Okay. So that was funny. Okay. So now I've got, okay, the guy has a sense of humor. So here we go. We're here in Nizhny Novgorod. And it's about a four-hour train ride east of Moscow. And this is where some of the drone attacks have been happening. And actually they have, they've installed some jammers in the area to block signal because, you know, they're trying to keep the drones from attacking the military targets. But in any case, this past week, we were down in Donbass, which is a large region, down near Ukraine. And we were in Donets, we went to Maripal, we went to the Azabstall steel plant. We went to a couple of other small towns that have just been absolutely decimated by the fighting.

And being down here has been incredibly eye-opening as far as the kinds of People that you meet the kinds of things you see that just destroy the Western narrative about what's happening here and what life is actually like in Russia, really. How are people dealing with all of the death? I mean, that's a very difficult question to answer. How does anyone deal with the death? The people here are living their lives as best they can. Donbass has been the center of a lot of the fighting, and we went to Donyisk, which was

the front line of the war for quite a while. It's now moved quite a bit west from there. But the people have tried to integrate the war into their lives the best that they can. John, I got to tell you, this guy is definitely a spook. He has no bio, no wiki page. OAN has Pearson Sharp grew up in a small farming town in central Ohio. He moved to Colorado for school where he attended the University of Colorado. Colorado and Boulder studying English and creative writing, you know, I'll say.

He has, there's nothing on this guy. So there's no profile at all, which is like one of the earmarks. Yes. Well, on his own page, I'm a show host and foreign correspondent. I cover international conflicts from the migration crisis. So you spotted it immediately with his name. That's a spook name. That's a total spook name.

All right. Well, good. Okay, so it's a, okay, let's assume he's a spook, which is good to know. Yep. We don't know who he's working for. And what's the point of this? Because the point of this is there's got to be something going on here. Tell me it's in this clip three.

I think it's in clip four. Okay. We went to a park in Donyatsk, and it was a memorial park. They had a little shrine there for the children that have been killed by the Ukrainian shelling. And so far, the running count, just in Donyazk. Not all of Donbass, but Justin Doniesk, is 257 children that have been killed from Ukrainian shelling. And it was called the Alley of Angels. And it was very powerful. Oh, that sounds horrendous. And it certainly animates President Trump's efforts to try to end this war and end the killing.

Little children should not be dying because of this type of geopolitics. It's a tragedy. You know, Pearson, we've seen photos of you interacting with the people who are fighting this war. What can you tell us about those people? So we actually got to visit some of the troops who are fighting for the Russians against the Ukrainians. And the incredible part was that these aren't Russian soldiers. These are Ukrainians. And they've decided to join with Russia and fight against the Ukrainian regime, as they call it. And when I asked them how they felt about fighting against fellow Ukrainians and, you know, are they fighting for Russia now?

Do they want to see Russia win? And they say, we're not fighting for Russia. We're fighting to free Ukraine. And I think that says a lot about the mindset of the people here. They don't think that Ukraine is free right now. The Ukrainians living there don't think that it's free. And these people, the soldiers that I spoke with, none of them joined the army willingly. they were grabbed off of the streets, thrown into vans, and forced to fight.

One of them was a university student, and he was trying to get his doctorate because apparently there's some kind of loophole that once you get your doctorate, you don't have to fight. And so he was literally at his desk at school, and the henchman came in and dragged him out, kicking and screaming, and threw him into a van, suddenly you're in the army now. So he was in the Ukrainian army, but then switched sides and joined the Russian side of the fight? and join the Russians, yes. Wow. To fight against the Lentzky.

Now, that interesting little factor there was the fact that Gates heard the interview going in the wrong direction. He adjusted it because it was not clear what was going on. And so the guy was

so he's been conscripted out of school right out of his classroom before he got his Ph.D. and ended up, this is one of those This didn't happen stories. But there's a message here about this whole thing that is through gates that's being done for some purpose or other. And I thought it was definitely worth. I mean, I didn't play it on the last show, but I think it's probably worth listening to.

And this is the last clip. We went to a park in Donyatsk, and it was a memorial park. They had a little shrine there for the children. that I'm sorry I cut up the same one twice my apologies wow conscription may not be all it's cracked up to be if that type of

soldiers they said they don't want to fight for Zelensky they don't they called it the regime they don't want to fight for him and I asked them well you know how this is your opinion of course you know the troops here but what about the rest of the Ukrainians how do they feel about this and they said

no one wants to fight for Zelensky No one sees him as legitimate. They all think that he's an illegitimate ruler who's been propped up in place and is basically a dictator at this point. And no Ukrainians want this war to continue. They all want it to end. Hmm. Well, he was born in London, I've found. Attended University College London, the Dragon School of Oxford.

What's the Dragon School? I don't know. I've been to Oxford and I haven't seen that school. It's like some kind of Hogwarts. Winchester College, Trinity College, Cambridge. No, that can't be right. That's, this is a... It's got to be a different guy.

That's error. That's error. Making errors. I can't be right to the guy. Hmm. Well, yeah, the conscription, I mean, this video is on telegram of people being dragged off the street thrown into vans all the time. That's been going on for the entire, you know, three years of the war. So, yeah.

We're not getting good information one way or the other. No, no, we're not. Well, then we'll go into our break here with the latest news from Europe. Russell's airport is the worst affected by this outage. And there's real scenes of chaos at the airport. Lots of flights canceled, lots of flights delayed. The airport is telling people don't come unless you have it confirmed that your flight is actually taking off. Because the agents are having to do things.

because that system software that processes ticket check-in and luggage check-in is offline. So this is different than when you would have, let's say, an outage for air traffic control because that means the planes literally can't take off. This can be solved by surging staff over to the airport to be able to process all the check-ins manually. So I'm told they are trying to do that. There's a number of other airports affected as well, London Heathrow and Berlin Airport, Berlin-Brandenburg Airport, for instance, they are also seeing these scenes of check-in agents

having to manually check people in, which is obviously slowing things down. But this is very worrying if this is indeed a cyber attack, which the evidence is pointing to right now, because Collins Aerospace is a very, very big company. It manages air traffic airport check-in across the world. And especially worryingly, it's also. a defense company. So the fact that it could have been subject to this kind of cyber attack is very worrying. But a transport sector analyst that I've talked to over the past months that said they've been worried about something like this because these types of services that can

shut down multiple airports with just one attack are a very tempting target. Now, I think this is a hit job from a competing company because every single news report had the same payoff. Oh, it's Collins, you know, Collins, a major defense contractor, very, very worrying Collins. And where does it hit Brussels, Brussels, Brussels, where all of the European muckety-mucks live and work. I'm not going to argue that at all. I think it could even be Microsoft. Microsoft doing it because they're not using Windows on these systems in Europe that they're

talking about. They're talking about somebody else's software in this very, I mean, it's not. not beyond the pale, because back in the day during the OS2 era... Oh, what a great OS that was. During the OS2 era, when they came out with a version called... And they made the claim, IBM did that. Didn't you write a book about it? I did.

Wow. One of my... It was one of my 27 books that I've done. Instant bestseller. What was the scripting language called again? Oh, I forgot. That's what was so appealing. It had a nice scripting language.

There's no doubt about it. But I mean, he'd finish the story. So during the, when they came out, crash proof, it was called the warp version, OS2 warp. OS2 warp. Crash proof. So Steve Balmer would go into the IBM booth with a disc and just stick it in any random computer and crash it. And he did this. It was a big joke amongst everybody there.

Ballmer would pull the stunt. That's a, I don't put it past. Microsoft to do stuff like that to this day. Classic. Rex. Rex. Yeah, Rex. Restructured, extended executor.

Wow, man. I love that. Yeah, it was supposed to be crash proof. That was right before we found out that if you sent a flood ping to a Windows NT computer, that it would give it blue screen of death. You remember that? No, I don't remember that. It was so fun.

You see someone across the way working on a Windows NT. And if you had his, you know, IP address, even worked over the internet. You could send a flood ping and it would get a blue screen of death. It was amazing. It was good times. Can't do that anymore. What fun.

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We have chapters. We've got transcripts. We've had all kinds of cool thing about bobs, including when we go live, which we do on Thursdays and Sundays, we send out the bat signal. Your podcast app will tell you that you can listen live. You can listen live to us in the podcast app. It's like on demand and live. And when we publish it, your modern podcast app will let you know within 90 seconds. Why deal with any other podcast app? Podcast apps.com. 18 years in October, we just celebrate 1,800 episodes, 18 years, a long time. And we've been doing it value for value, which means we are the true essence of free speech, because it's there, free. Free?

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Wow. What is this thing with you and Darren? What do you got a feud going? No, I got no feud with Darren. He knows exactly what I'm talking about. Darren agrees. Like, yeah, that's crazy. I can't believe that I typed in. Give me a road sign with no agenda way, 1,800, no agenda way, and Curry DeVorak at an intersection. Okay, AI, go. That's all he did. I think he's doing more. I think he's doing something to brighten up his images because his images have no, None of it. He pays attention. That's one guy in the group that pays attention.

And you bitch and moan and bitch and moan and complaining, complain about the orange nature of a lot of these images. And all it takes is just a quick shot and, you know, put it in Photoshop and take the orange shot. Boom. This is true. This is true. Is that he the only guy that pays attention to that? I noticed it. Well, Darren's wife works and he just stays at home podcast. Oh, he's a home dad. as far as I understand, hey, I'm happy. He's our pre-show guy. Darren's rock and roll pre-show is important. It riles everybody up, gets them already. You know, there's always a Ted

Nugent song played. He used to play Taylor Swift all the time. He stopped doing that. Yeah, that's a good thing. Too many complaints. So we were looking for, we always like to go pretty traditional, something with 1800 on it. And pretty much everybody failed. Yeah, we had a lot of 1800 quervos. That which, we had a bunch of, we like, Rando women. We liked the 1800 quervos, but it was all too small. You couldn't read it.

And the one that we liked, like Curry DeVore, like, okay, Servant, let me see, where are all these? They scrolled down to the next page. Next page, hold on. There's a lot of art, of course, but it's so. We should just integrate an LLM in this thing already. So we liked, I like Matthew Dropko, but it was too small. You like the, I really like Nico Symes.

But again, it was too small. And yeah, you like the Darren with the two glasses. But you see Adam Curry, John C. DeVorek on the glass, you couldn't read it from the even if. You know, I couldn't read it at all. At all. It's people, you know, this is the problem with AI. Like, oh, it's so easy to make art, but people don't pay attention to anything anymore. So we have to call you out on the things you're doing wrong.

But maybe once it's created, you know, it's very hard to tell the model, change this, change that, it screws everything up. Honorary mention, though, for Matthew Dropco, the Cory Booker clutching his pearls was dynamite. Oh, yes, that was hilarious. Of course, he has eight fingers on one hand. That's a minor problem. Gee, that's not AI. You're using one of the older models, Matthew. You literally has one, two, three, four, five, six fingers.

Very nice. Very interesting. And they're all bent. They're all bent and warped, which is okay. That's probably what the AI thought clutching look like. Yeah. But we were going to pick something to say it definitely had 1800 on it. Yeah, of course, of course.

But that was a funny idea. Yeah, that was poorly time. Too many fingers. Poorly time, too many fingers. Exactly. But we appreciate the effort. You prompt jockeys you. You've pretty much chased away every single actual artist.

It's too bad. I'm going to do the same with end of show mixes. It's all happening. It's all here. You can see it coming down Broadway. Yeah, you fight against it's all you want. But like that mix that we have coming up is a good mix. About the no agenda nights?

And the dames is a good mix. You can't fight it. It's a good mix. Well, you can fight it. I tried. I've given up. Because I have nothing else. Everyone's like, oh, man, it's like too much work.

You just throw it in the air. There's too much work. This is the laziness thing we brought up earlier in the show. Well, it's like a theme in the country. Well, let me ask you this. If we could do this show with AI and not have to show up and just make it happen, press a button, and do some prompts, like, okay, talk about the gold card, talk about free speech versus freedom of speech.

If we did like, you know, like 50 lines of prompting and the show did itself, would we just stay in bed? If it was as good as it could be, if it was as good as the real show, I would. But it's never going to be. That's the problem. I mean, AI is creeping into everything, but it's not creeping into, it can't, certain things it can't. do it doesn't for one thing the personality of AI sucks it stinks uh it's got no no voice no

personality it's flat bemro boom row says these lazy AI images is just value for value very rude sir bemrose very rude yeah anyway it doesn't matter yeah we still have a piece of art but it takes some pride in your work people get rid of the orange lighten it up make your Blacks, blacks, your whites, whites, and check the fingers. Check your fingers. Of course, we always thank people who support us with monetary value, $50 and above. We always want to mention them and thank them profusely for supporting the shows. The only income we generate.

No tote bags, no hats. How may I hurt, NPR? NPR, like, you know, if you only give us $25, we'll send you a hat. It's like, they don't understand value for value. Do you think that Democrat listeners that they just are stingy? Or do you think they, they had a matching donation, a $15,000 matching donation the other day for On the Media. Stingy.

Which reminds me, I got a note here. Hold on, where's my, where's my note? I got a note here from one of our producers and this is this is producer Nate Nate says ITM Adam I've been listening since your first

Rogan appearance and haven't missed a show since I love the work you two do I could go on but I'll try to get to the brass tax I am regrettably a douchebag as I haven't donated once well it's free speech what do you expect but I have hit several people in the mouth during show 1800 you mentioned having

some challenge coins made for the Rubelizer donation. Finally, an opportunity to add value back to the show enters my mind. I have very close friends who operate a third-generation family-owned casting company that does small and large batch castings. Locally, the business provides medals and trophies for schools as well as custom commissions for anything from belt buckles to shirt pins. Made in America, baby. They also have made tons of merch for basically any of.

band you can think of that has been big since your MTV days. I would gladly pay for the commission and material is required for the first 33 challenge coins and mail them to you, either you or John, once they're done. I'm not an artist, however, so I would need someone to render an image for the coins. If you're interested, feel free to respond any time. Much love and keep up the good work. Well, that's a beautiful offer. That's great value for value. All we need now is a beautiful design. What's the, what we need for that? You like a high end? No, I think we should just give it to get, talk Paul into doing it. He did the original challenge coin. Still one of the best. You don't want to use made in America by Nate for free? No, no. I'm talking about the design. Design. The design of the coin, not the manufacturing of the coin. Oh, okay. Well, Paul doesn't even listen anymore. Well, he would probably perk up if I told me we need a new design for a new challenge coin. He, him up with something. We'll tell him. Tell him. I will. I will do that. And then we can pass the information on the Jay and she can coordinate the whole thing. Okay. Excellent. Hey, we have a, we have,

staff. I love it. We have a, we have a, yeah, so we have a workflow, I figured out. It's a work. It's called workflow. We have workflow. We have workflow. Woo, everybody, we got workflow. Thank you very much, Brandon Mango from Midland, Pennsylvania. And we always have special titles for our top donors for each show. Although, any of amount anytime. We love it all and we appreciate it. It is value for value. So the value is only something you can determine. And Brandon thinks it very valuable what we do. $1,052 and 60 cents, which I'm thinking is $1,000 plus fees. And he says, any chance y'all can let me know how much have donated. Love you, love the show. I'm sure Jay responded to him. And for that, he becomes

an executive producer, $300 and above always gets you an executive producer credit, $200 above, get you an associate executive producer and in both instances we will always read your note and I guess you're going to become a wow he'll become a secretary general today and tonight is beautiful and thank you very much Brandon we appreciate it well let me stop everything and say no

what do you mean no we can't tell you how much the idea is the way we do this no but I thought okay you have to keep your own no those days years ago Eric had some mechanism where he could look at some of the past donations and come up with a number. But it's always been on the honor system regardless. It's always been on the honor system.

We want you to keep your own books. Yes. Keep your own books, people. Okay. Thank you for some. And I think people should be reminded of that. And that's what I'm why stopped. I stopped the presses right there.

Yes. Thank you. Because most people can figure it out. You can look at your checkbook or you can look at your bank. It's a ways of knowing how much money you. I mean, you better know. know how much, how much money you're spending on anything.

You should, yes. Joshua, uh, what is this? What do you think? Coff, Coff, Coffett, Coffelt, Coffet, Coffelt, Coffelt, Coffelt, Coffelt. He's in Grove City, Ohio. Yes. And he came in with 51538. ITM and John and Adam, thank you for your courage. The assassination of Charlie Kirk has made me realize that the country is still in dire need

of the service you provide. Ah, there we go. I think so, too. I want to do my part to ensure that you're able to continue doing what you do. For four more years, this is my first donation. He needs to deduishing. You've been deduished. If it has not already been claimed,

I would like to be named the Secretary General of the Unknown Unknowns. Sounds good to me. Can I please get some baby mix? making karma. And can you play the following clips slash jingles? Trump, they're eating the dogs, John's mac and cheese, Alex Jones, Durka, Durka, Durka. Yes. You know what that is?

I don't know. Shut up already. It's science. And the baby making karma. They're eating the dogs. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheese, macaroni and cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.

They're just derker, Durga, Mohamed Jihad. Durka, Durka, Durga, Durga. Shut up already. Science. You've got. Parma. In night, John checks in from Tucson, Arizona, 343.33. He says he added 10 bucks for fees.

Not sure how that works. Next time, we'll write a note and send the check. Yeah, that saves everybody money, John. ITM Adam and John, this donation of 3333 plus 3.3. plus fees is for a birthday wish for Archduchess Kim, keeper of the nutty fluffers. She is definitely on the mend and we are very happy about that.

Happy birthday, Kim, all uppercase. Kim shares a birthday with Bill Bo the Frodo. Please excuse the Lord of the Rings reference and the Equinox. That's right, today is the equinox. It is? Yes, it's the equal daylight and

nighttime. Today is the equinox. She would also be 42, so we'll soon have the answer to life, the universe, and everything. That's right. I enjoyed your discussion of drive-through liquor stores a few episodes back. I remember driving through one for a six-pack while test driving a car with the dealer. Times have certainly changed. Yes, Kim was a little kid in the backseat with her sister. She went ahead and survived my upbringing anyway. Jingles, F-35 karma, and screw your freedom.

Screw your freedom. You've got... Karma. So Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, who's over here in Oakland and was at the meetup, came in with 333.3.48, the Oakland meetup, and he had a complaint, which I found somewhat distressing. ITM gentlemen, while listening on the Sunday show, I was horrified to find that my cash donation was not all there. Oh, no.

If you were recall, John, I had the envelope pressed, passed down. the table to you it was sealed in wax with my no agenda night ring signet ring and i don't think any of the people there would have taken it i think i got it and probably opened it i'm not sure what was in it because you don't tell me here i taken it they just said things get you know the cash donations get piled up and then obviously this one was somehow forgotten yes unless it was less than 50 is it was there were none so it had to be at least a hundred dollars so it give you take a hundred a hundred dollars taken as if they were all non douchebag no agenda americans it is possible you may have stopped off at club mallard on the way back from the

pizzeria violetta had a drink and tipped the excellent bartender a nice fat tip yeah yeah that's gonna that sounds possible i don't think so no i go straight home uh or considering my rather poor performance at my idf a match the following day it's possible i counted twice only to short the best podcast in the universe that that ends now. Congratulations on 18-Glorious years, sir Lawrence of dystopia, baronet of Maxwell Park. Kilo, Oscar, 6, Echo Juliet, Echo 73s. 73s, Kilo-5, Alpha Charlie, Charlie.

We'll see you on the, uh, on the, the two gigahertz back channel from Artemis 1. Joe Grillo, soon to be Sir Joseph Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps, 333.3.3.3.3. Oh, thank you. He adds a penny to the jar. Hey, John and Adam, if someone told me I would someday donate $1,000 to a podcast, I would have told them that they needed their head examined. Well, I guess I need my head examined because this third donation of 333.33 puts me into the knighthood category. I couldn't possibly ask you to kick in the penny considering how much bitching John does about the lackluster donations of late. There you go.

please knight me sir joseph lord of the central jersey swamps and if you be so kind provide some gumbo parmesan and albeda beer for the roundtable we already did this donation i think so we did too didn't we yeah did we did we yeah because i'll bea beer we got into a big discussion about it but i don't remember no i think this is different and i do remember him saying what he said about i didn't think i ever donate a thousand dollars to a show I don't know how I'd got on here twice, but here it is again. Well, should I just read it just in case we're wrong? Yeah, finish it off. We might as well.

It's there. Here's the part I don't remember. If you'd be so kind, provide some gumbo. That is, I do remember that. Please mention my band, the gumbo gumbas. Yeah, he came in. This was a letterhead that had gumbo gumbos on top. I read this letter.

All right. Well. So I don't know how it got, unless he did it again, which is possible. Because the original one was a handwritten note. it wasn't on the spreadsheet. Hmm. Well. But no,

a lot of people do this, by the way. Not a lot of few. A number of people have done this. Not enough. Not enough. They send in a note that is handwritten with a check. And then they send in the same thing somehow through the PayPal.

So I believe he's just getting double publicity, which is somehow he pulled it off. Good job. More power to him to the gumbos. The gum, the gumba gumbos. Good job, everybody. Okay, onward. Okay, now we go to Linda Lopatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.

Oh, that's it. We're done. No, we're not done. Kelly and Monica are both in Canada, and their donations amount to $240 each at least. Okay, yeah, in Canadian, yes, okay. All right, go for Linda. Linda says jobs karma for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results.

Go to Imagemakers Inc.com. For all your executive resume and job. search needs. That's image makers equal the K and work with Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and Writers. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yes, Kelly Spongberg, no stranger to the show from Rocky Mountain House in Alberta, Canada, came in with 189-55, Kandinavian dollarette, so associate. No, no, that's American. That's American. after the 250 bucks were the Canadian dollar at. Thank you.

I got you. So they will be associate executive producer. Sir Kelly and Dame Andrea are pleased to announce the completion of our business expansion at Metal Dog Machines in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta. This donation is to both celebrate the show's 1800 milestone and all Dame Andrea's work as a general contractor. All right. Huh.

Beautiful. Interesting. And last on our list is Monica, Blancing. She's in Drayton Valley, Alberta, Canada. You guys should meet up. That would be $240, $48, I think, is what it comes to. Happy belated 18th anniversary. Thank you.

All right. Belated, well, you can do it again in October. It's not quite belated until October 20 something. 1800 episodes. We appreciate it. Yeah, that's what she meant. And we appreciate all of our executive and associate executive producers. As always, thank you so much for your courage.

Of course, these credits are entirely real and accepted by the Hollywood bigwigs. Go to IMDB.com. You'll see over a thousand no agenda executive and associate executive producers. It also works in your LinkedIn profile or on your ex, or if you're on it, on your blue cry. And we'll be thanking the rest of our value for value supporters in our second segment, $50 and above. And again, congratulations to this associate executive and executive producers. Our formula is this. We go out.

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This is Newsom This is a short clip that I pulled it off Twitter. And Newsom has been getting nothing but grief because he's trying to act like Trump and he's a tough guy and he's cussing a lot. So somebody pointed out this is Newsom. Now he's decided to change course and act like Biden. And if you listen to this clip,

he sounds like Biden, except he's missing the no joke. What was the other thing Biden? No joke, no joke, man. No joke. No, it's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's not a joke. I'm not kidding.

and this sort of thing because this I'm not lying this response to this particular bogus story is every known meme of things that didn't happen were posted and in fact I collected a few of them for the future use the newsletter it's like nobody believes a word of this story which makes it again more like Biden one of his you know cockamamie screwball stories and this is just nonsense This is a chill. This is chilling. This is serious. I walked into a restaurant the other day. Entire staff came out, started hugging me and crying. The hell is that? The United States of America. What he's doing to our diverse communities, what he's doing to the fabric of our society. It does. Yeah. He does a little bit like corn pop. He was a bad. He was a bad dude.

is a Biden cadence and stupid that's funny yeah no one cares about it by the way no one cares about Biden except for President Trump who wants to you know undo all the pardons yeah well that's definitely what's happening and so since we're on California you do have one more clip on this is not from Newsom but it's about Newsom and this is the the Cali Band It says banned, but it's about the ban on ice masks, legal ban on, yeah. California will be the first state to ban most law enforcement, including federal immigration agents, from covering their faces while on official duty. Governor Gavin Newsom signed the bill into law today, saying the masked law enforcement,

pulling people off the streets is a step toward authoritarianism in, quote, Trump's America. A few other states are considering similar measures. The law does allow exceptions for things like riot gear, medical masks, and undercover work. In the past, I said it's officers wear masks to prevent being identified in videos and photos online and facing threats. This is an amazing world we live in. You know, the very state that forced everyone to wear masks still does from time to time. Well, if you listen to that report carefully, there is an out. which is instead of wearing the normal masks that the ice guys are wearing,

they just put on a medical mask. Yeah. It's sad right there except for medical masks. So you can go out to like a COVID. Yeah, that's an out. So you wear that. You wear a little blue mask and you know, screw you. Oh, that's good.

That's good. It looks like we have a deal. The deal has been approved on the phone. I don't think we've papered it yet, but we got a deal. We have a deal. We got a deal. It's like, I got a deal. I spoke to the guy.

we got a deal. Here we go. The deal is for TikTok. Video sharing app TikTok's future in the U.S. has long hung in the balance. But Donald Trump says his Chinese counterpart approved a deal over the phone, as they plan to meet at the APEC Regional Summit next month. And as you know, we approve the TikTok deal. And we're in the process. We have some great investors, some of the biggest in the world. We have to get it signed, I guess.

Choose the security and surveillance concerns over American users' data. Washington passed a law last year, mandating that TikTok, run by Chinese parent company BightDance, must sell its U.S. operations or risk going offline. BightDance has expressed its willingness to negotiate and keep its estimated 170 million users in the U.S. We thank President Xi Jinping and President Donald J. Trump for their efforts to preserve TikTok in the United States. By dance will work in accordance with applicable laws to ensure TikTok remains available to American users through TikTok US. According to the Wall Street Journal, the deal could involve the US government receiving a multi-billion dollar fee from TikTok in exchange for facilitating negotiations with China.

Trump's stance on TikTok has changed since returning to offer it, and he credits the app with helping him win a second term via young voters. He's delayed implementing the sale deadline multiple times. The latest now until December 16th. The app's fate has been caught up in a sweeping tariff spiral between Washington and Beijing that has strained relations between the world's top two economies. So let's talk about this for a second. A, who do you think the buy,

it's got to be multiple buyers at this point. I presume. Yeah, Oracle's one of them. Yeah, Oracle has the data already as part of Project Dallas or whatever they call that. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, for harvesting the data, the U.S. data, in Oracle, which is where a lot of your data is harvested.

Who else? Who else would be in on this? It was, Andrew, Andresen Horowitz is one of them. And there's a third partner, and I'm trying to think who it is. Can you know, your bot there would know. I'm not going to ask the bot. The bot doesn't know anything. But so those, you know, it said, what are the chances that it'll just suck?

well the problem is that they're still negotiating about the algorithm it's so i could write this algorithm you think so yeah i know so i like well then why don't you give them a call i like red you get red stuff that's what that's what they're that algorithm it's what looks like to me too yes you know you know i like black preachers that do the falling thing boom you get them all yeah you know i like blue hair complaining and crying about Trump. Bloom, you get it all. It's a very simple algorithm. And then the monetization is the shop.

That's the problem. And because of the, well, de minimis is probably still high enough at $200 that you can still get most of that junk in without import duty. But that's my impression. but I mean is it still making what was it making

8 billion a year I think is what it was I don't know I think your robot would know I don't care get your own robot get your own robot man I'm not getting a robot in the house

it's just like an intrusion you know I was thinking about you know optimist prime and all these robots and that ridiculous robot expo where all the they're boxing the boxing robots

they're boxing they're boxing they're boxing and they're playing soccer and it all sucks. It totally blows. It's really funny. The thing is, like, people always want a humanoid robot. That makes no sense to me.

I have a robot. I have one robot in my house, and I love this robot. It's my second one, actually. And that's the vacuum cleaner. Oh, it's not from Rumba, is it? No, it's from Shark. Oh, okay. That's fine.

No, Shark has one. Oh, I've no doubt that China has an entire layout of my house. I mean, I really despise that part. But it's so, because of Phoebe, Phoebe, shit. Oh, my goodness. I forgot to let her in. Oh, boy. Stop the tape.

Yeah, let me stop the tape. Hold on a second. The poor dog is burning up. You know, I think I liked it better when you played the slide whistle. Slide whistle was better. Yeah, well. So the ASPCA, they're going to come and take her away, I'm sure. Why?

Well, it's like, it's 85, it's almost 90 degrees. She's in the, well, she's a big white, hairy dog. She's in the corner of the yard with a little bit of shade. She's all curled up like, I'm frying, daddy. No, you have a doggy door. Oh, this dog needs a human door. You should teach the dog how to open the door. Yeah, okay.

Anyway, I thank you. I also took the opportunity to urinate and get some water for myself. Anyway, we were talking about dog. I don't, what were we talking about? Oh, that's a good question. Oh, the shark vacuum cleaner. Oh, yeah, just monitoring and. napping your house. Yes, but they have a special version that is specifically for pet fur.

And it's really good. And I love that thing. We call it Steve McLean. And every night at 11, Steve McLean goes around. And that's an actual robot that is functional. It doesn't look like Rosie from the Jetsons vacuuming. This is what I don't get. How stupid. Like you're spending all this battery and energy and gyroscopic power on keeping this humanoid thing. Who cares? Oh, look, it walks just like a human. It can jump. Make it functional. Don't make it look like a human. I've never understood that. Am I just obsessing too much about this? No, I've always felt the same way. I always, and I point out to people that they all have robots already. The word processor is a typist. And you hit the button and a type.

types out a bunch of documents for you. That's a robot. It's a robot. Mm-hmm. So there's other examples. Yes. Oh, something's happening in the UK. They're pushing, they're pushing, they're pushing.

It's coming here. I had a long talk with Kyle Biederman about this. Man, Lindsay Graham's in bed with Cash Patel, which he took. No, I thought you were going to say he's in bed with the queen. Well, believe me. Kyle Biederman got the joke already, I thought it was funny. I said, digital ID, man, it's coming. And here's the UK Labor Minister.

We know the government is looking at digital ID cards at the moment. How would that help prevent the situation that we're in now? Well, Kier Stahmer, our Prime Minister, has said we are looking at what other countries have done to bring in a sort of digital accreditation. I think there's real, actually, benefits right across here from obviously dealing with illegal working, but also actually, imagine, if your viewers imagine that they had one credential that would allow them to access all the different government services and our public services do. I'm sure many of your viewers often tear their hair out with all the different

numbers and passwords. Oh no, different numbers and passwords. I'm tearing my hair out. Please, government, give me a digital ID, please, please. The different bits of government that they have to deal with. I do think there could be a real benefit here for people who are here and working legally and accessing our public services if there was one route in, as well as the benefits it could have with illegal migration. We're looking at that. I think it is an interesting idea that other countries have taken forward and we want to learn from what they've done. You see, this is the difference. This is why we fought the British and kicked them out. They want digital ID, we give you the Trump

Platinum card. I mean, it's a much better card. You want digital ID. You want the Trump Platinum, the Trump gold card. This is the difference right here. Although they're going to push for it real hard, right after we go to the moon. No?

They're going to push for it real hard. Period. Moon, notwithstanding. Yeah. A little bit of EU EU news? Well, actually, this is, I've been taking my time to watch some more of President Trump's

Presser with Kier-Starmer. And I don't remember any clips of this out there. This is about him being disappointed in President Putin, but also telling us when and how the war will end. Mr. President, you say that President Putin has let you down. Have negotiations run out of road, and what are your next steps to compel an end to this war? He has let me down. I mean, he's killing many people, and he's losing more people than he's, you know, than he's killing. Or simply, if the price of oil comes down, Putin's going to drop out. He's going to have no choice. He's going to drop out of that war.

And when I found out that the European nations were buying oil from Russia, and as you know, I'm very close to India. I'm very close to the Prime Minister of India. I spoke to him the other day. Wish him a happy birthday. We have a very good relationship. People had had a beautiful statement too. We have... Hey, Modi. But I said, you know, I sanctioned them. China is paying a very large tariff right now to the United States. But I'm willing to do other things, but not when the people that I'm fighting for are buying oil from Russia.

If the oil price comes down, very simply, Russia will settle. and the oil price is way down. You know, we got it way down. We're drilling and we produce more oil than anybody else in the world. We're doing a lot. But I was disappointed to see that. And the prime minister was disappointed to see that. So if the price of oil comes down, then Putin's out.

How does that work, though? Because, of course, we know it's a troll. The European Union is not going to stop buying oil. But if they stop buying Russian oil, wouldn't the price go up? Right. Wouldn't there be less available and therefore the prices would go up? That's what the, that's too logical. The idea is that Russia should be selling less oil because the Europeans stopped buying it

and it wouldn't really change the price of anything, but it would, it would change the income flow. In other words, they would just get less money and running out of money is a, is not a good, thing for it because it's a main part of their economy is the revenues from oil. Well, Fundalayan, Queen Ursula, is clapping back and she has a plan, a plan. Now it's not about oil, but did you know that they were taking Russian LNG? Oh. Doesn't surprise. Well, then not anymore.

No, they got a lot of gas too. We're stopping that. Russia's war economy is sustained by the revenues from fossil fuels. We want to cut these revenues. So we are banning imports of Russian LNG into European markets. It is time to turn off the tap. We are prepared for this. We have been saving energy.

We have been diversifying supplies. We've been investing in low carbon sources of energy like never before. And today, these efforts pay off. They pay off. We've been saving energy. Look, I have it here, my little purse. Yeah, you got a bunch of it right there. In a box.

And we have low carbon alternatives. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This, they're going to die. They are. Once they kill their nuke plants, this was the problem. They were,

I don't know how they got suckered into any of this. Well, they want to kill people. Isn't it just universally true throughout history that the cheaper and more abundant actual energy is, that the more prosperous people become? Yes, because what it is, it is energy. Yeah.

Yeah, and it makes things move. Yes. Poor Europeans. I do love our European brothers and sisters, but you know, you're letting these people kill you. They're squashing you like bugs. Yeah, and you can't say anything about it. You get thrown in the slammer.

Yeah, you get arrested like Katie Hopkins. Man, she's joking about it, but she's in for a surprise. You should hear her story. That whole podcast with Laura is good. You know, she got, because at a certain point, she became the most hated person in the UK. I'm not, I don't remember what happened or what she did. Well, she was on LBC for a while, as I recall. Yes, yeah, she wasn't, and she was on LBC.

She loves America because she would do a regular spot on Tucker. And because of that, she was able to have a, I guess it was the Republican Women's Conference. And she spoke at some gathering because of Tucker had, you know, got her in there. And then she was on the speaking circuit all of a sudden. She was going around every state speaking at every Republican Women's Conference. And that's, in essence, how she survived. But it got so bad as she was saying. that her husband had to take her, their children,

move to a different town, take on different names, and they did not have contact for five years because of the abuse the children were taking. Really? Yes. I was blown away. Well, I remember that we used to follow her when she was on LBC. Barrage was too.

Yeah. And she was, you know, she was funny. I mean, she was very biting in terms of her critique. And I just don't see, I mean, I just don't see how that would create that much hate. No, I think it was something, well, this time I will ask the robot. What was it that happened that made Katie Hopkins the most hated person in the UK? Well, Katie Hopkins earned that most hated label from a story. string of explosive, often offensive comments that lit up the UK media. She kicked off big in

2015 with a sun column comparing migrants crossing the Mediterranean to cockroaches, sparking massive backlash for racism, got her investigated by police, though charges dropped. Then there was her digs at fatties, calling them lazy, slagging off Scottish accents as scummy, and telling folks with depression to snap out of it, which hit parents of kids with autism hard too. Oh, and that time she joked about euthanizing dementia patients to free up NHS beds, pure firestorm. Shows like Celebrity Big Brother amplified it all, turning her into a tabloid villain. But, hey, she turned the hate into cash, didn't she? Not really.

Not really. Hey, you biased robot. Error. Okay. Well, that's kind of funny, though. Snap out of it. Snap out of it. Snap out of it.

Snap out of it. What's your problem? Well, her style of, uh, pointed crecheek was, brash, brash, was very American. Yeah. She definitely wasn't beyond the, what a Louis C.K. would have done or almost any decent comic. Yeah. Well, what she did. Except for the public masturbation.

I was going to say, she didn't masturbate in front of other comics in the hotel room as far as I know. As far as you know. Yeah. As far as I know, yes. So, Hmm. Well, that's, you know. Yeah.

Poor, poor Katie. But anyway, she seems to be doing okay. She had a, she almost died. Well, it started with, I think it just started with the cockroach thing. And that brought down the ire of the globalists who were moving to move everybody they could from the northern Africa into the Europe. Yeah. Since it's on right now. And I got, I tell you, I'm looking.

at this, this is amazing the people who are at this memorial. The entire cabinet has spoken already. All of the top podcasters are ourselves excluded. Of course we are. We're excluded from everything.

Yes. We were de-platformed when we started. This is good. That's really good. I was bringing that up because I called it. Kirk's widow, Erica, has been named CEO of Turning Point, the conservative nonprofit that he founded.

In his statement, Turning Point USA said Kirk designated his wife to be CEO ahead of the shooting that took his life. I think she's really going to make something out of this. Yeah, I'm in total disagreement. Okay. I think she has no karma whatsoever and it's going to go just nowhere. But if there's people behind her that are doing the job, it might not make a difference. This is where you say, Marco Rube. He's the guy.

Marco Rubio could do it. So I have a question for, I got an air traffic controller clip. Oh. So this is a kind of, it's edited a bit, but not by me. And this is the air traffic controller scolding a spirit airline flight for getting too close to Air Force One. Okay. When he took the trip to England. And is this kind of insults?

There's insults. Do air traffic controllers normally insult the pilots of these planes? Is that a common thing? Let's have a listen. Sterewing, 1,300, turned 20 degrees right immediately. Pay attention. There at 1,300 traffic's off your left wing by 8 miles 747. I'm sure you can see who it is.

I'll keep an eye out for me, white and blue. I've got to talk to you twice every time. Here at 1,300, Boston 134.0. Pay attention. Get off the iPad. Okay. So these conversations, this is a little more than usual. This is the exact reason when I fly up to Dallas, and if I'm flying myself, because I only fly once every six weeks, once every two months, maybe.

And we go in a Cirrus, which is a fast, but it's a four-seater. It's a small aircraft, but it's not, you know, it's fast for a small four-seater. So it takes me an hour and five minutes to get up to Dallas versus five minutes, five and a half hours in the car. Beautiful. I love it. And I always take along one of the instructors from the flight school. I rent the plane from the flight school. Because they're on the radio all day because this is my experience. And air traffic controllers are there for a reason. We have a lot of them listening to us. I love them all. I've never had a spat with them. But this is what it happens. It's very busy airspace. There's five airports up there. You got dad. Fort Worth. You got love. You got Addison. And if you are flying into that airspace and they're

going to vector you and tell you what to do. And if you so much as go, uh, on the radio, they'll go, okay, why don't you fly 30 minutes that way and we'll talk to you in a half hour and we'll let you back in and make your approach. Because they're busy. They're trying to keep, you know, separation, all kinds of bad things from happening. So if you're not responsive on the radio, which it sounds like there's a couple of different clips of this floating out there like he had to ask two or three times to turn 20 degrees right. If you don't say, you know, your call, Spirit Airlines 20 degrees right, if you don't say that right away, then you're not paying attention. And that's frightening for an air traffic control because you need to respond. I need you to do this. If you're not turning right

and you're not responding, I can run into trouble. I'm thinking five steps ahead. So yeah, call him a douche, get off the iPad, stop horsing around. This is a busy airspace and we got the Air Force One. So yes. And it was meant as an insult and I think it was correct. Now, often, oftentimes you'll have a different dispute where the air traffic control is going to tell you how to fly, you know, or, I mean, I'm trying to think of a good example. But ultimately, the pilot in command is.

in command of that aircraft. So they'll tell you to do certain things. Like, no, I don't want to do that. I want to do it this way. And if it's not within their, if it's not within their aerodrome space, you know, you're like, hey, I don't want to fly that way

because I might run into rainstorms. I want to go that way. You know, they will have to concede to you because you do have the authority over the aircraft and you're up there and they're not. But when it comes to this, absolutely, the guy's spirit. It was a douche.

20 degrees to the right. just confirm and go not paying attention yeah they were talking to each other in the cockpit you know talking about the air the flight attendants you see that hotie yeah that dude's real hot it's spirit

airwise I'm just saying yeah all right uh I only got one I've got a couple more but I'm like I'm going to save the super cut oh you have a super cut

you're going to save a super cut? It was about the free speech thing. I think it would be better bump because we'd be talking about free speech or freedom of speech. You know, I actually tried to make that one sound better. This one? It had music. Does it have music on it? I don't remember. There's about 10 of them out there.

This is the one. This is a retrospective. Yeah, I tried to take the music out of this. I bothered you. You can't do it. I don't think there's music on this one. Well, it did. This new, I told you.

You need to try the 11 labs thing. 11 labs really works incredibly well. Take music out? Yeah. Oh, it takes music. I told you, it's the only thing that makes RFK Jr. sound legible. Okay, I'll play with it next time. Well, let me just see, because I think I have the, I threw it out.

Maybe I still have it. Yeah, I still have it. You'll laugh. Okay, let me see if this is the same one. You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not Twitter ban the president. No, I have a different one. You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others if you afford providing misinformation out there. There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy.

There are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda and whether they should be civilly or even in something. cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrent. If people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and, you know, has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block. It's really hard to govern today. This is a matter of corporate responsibility. Twitter should be held accountable and shut down that site. It is a matter of safety and corporate accountability.

The First Amendment is not absolute. It does not protect any single thing anyone says. And there are limits, and that's important. And what this committee has been trying to do for the last year and a half is to chill the federal government from monitoring what is going on on social media. When you look at what Tucker Carlson and some of these other folks on Fox do, it is very, very clearly incitement of violence, very clearly. very clearly incitement of violence. I believe that when it comes to broadcast television, like Fox News, these are subject to federal law, federal regulation in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't.

That's a good piece. First of all, she calls it broadcast television. It's not. And they are not. This is a U.S. representative that was AOC. This is an actor. It's not a representative. Very clearly, incitement of violence.

I believe that when it comes to broadcast television, like Fox News, these are subject to federal law, federal regulation in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't. So my biggest concern is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways. We should have played that earlier, although it's nice to kind of wrap up with it. So as a rare exception, I will play for you until you realize. why I threw it out. The super cut that I got.

Now, this had a typical... Boom-p-da-bum-pud-a-bum-pud-a-bom. Yeah, I don't get those too many of those. I don't like them. Well, so that's why you use 11 labs, their voice isolator, and it worked extremely well until it got to someone speaking

in an audience with a lot of applause and you'll hear why I threw this out. Twitter. Ban the president permanently. Oh, damn. They took away his pressure. Well, Facebook upheld their ban of Donald Trump today for at least another six months. It is so funny to watch the Trump supporters and the Republicans melt down over Tucker Carlson getting fired from Fox News. Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. Couldn't have happened to a better guy.

Fox News media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. No, nah, nah, nah. So that's actually... Wow. That's actually the view, if you remember when the... Who's the little Latino woman? Yeah, Anna Navarro. Yeah, so she starts singing.

I wouldn't call her a little, but yes. Well, she starts singing, na, na, na, na, na, na, nah, nah. Hey, say goodbye. And it turned her, this is actually a very interesting filter because it removed the music from everything, but it brought the actual devil that is inside of that woman out. Listen to get, listen to get.

It's the 11 Labs devil revealing software. That's exactly what it is. Agreed to part ways. Foxy, I'm telling you. This is my demon revealer. I'm going to have to use that more often. It's a reverse demon filter. Yeah, it brings a demon out.

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I'm going to go to a generalized tip. Mm-hmm. And this is a wine tip for everybody out there, especially the ladies. Hello, ladies. And this is triggered by the exploding bottles at Costco. Oh. So there's a recall of some of this wine that Costco has. And Costco has a pretty good one, but they're all good.

And the wine that everyone should check out is, and this is called Muscato D-A-T-O-D-A-P-O-A-S-T-I. It's a sweet, bubbly wine. not as, it's not like a champagne bubbly. It's a light sparkling wine. It's sweet. The alcohol is low. It's like 7% on a lot of these. Sometimes it gets the 10. And it's every one I've ever had in my life. I've had a lot of them. They're all, they seem to be all be good at whatever price. They run around 12 to 15 to 16 bucks, maybe. I think Costco has one for under 10. that explodes in some states. I don't know what the deal is there.

I listened to it was every single state except for Texas for some reason? No, no. They didn't have any exploding bottles in California either. There was only about 20 states where they were blowing up. And you didn't even have to take it back. You could just show them a receipt

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Now, do you have a tip on how to approach this exactly? It's a sweet wine for, it's chilled. It's a summer sipper. It's good for the upcoming Indian summer. It's a summer sipper. And the problem with it is Mimi has this issue, and most people will. you can't not drink the whole bottle. Yeah.

Is that only Mimi, really? Well, I think a lot of people will run into it. If you've ever had Mascato Dosti, you will find it's hard to resist just drinking it down. It is a superior product. It's a great, it's an afternoon thing. It's supposed to be a dessert wine, but I wouldn't have it for dessert.

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