No Agenda - 1804 - "Mucho Retardo"

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love it. I'm a pig. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorek. It's Thursday, October 2nd, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, Episode 18004. This is no agenda. No shutdown here. We're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:24 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's now apparent that bald people only hire bald people. John C. DeVoreck. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Well, that's an interesting little tidbit. I don't know if it's true. Well, did you look at the military gathering there in Washington, D.C.? It's like everybody's every guy, every general, every admiral's bald.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Correlation is not causation. It's like when you, before TSA became TSA, the modern TSA after Homeland Security after the 9-11, it was all Filipinos. in San Francisco, they would just hire each other. Or are you getting a company, a gay guy goes in there as a head of personnel. Boom, the whole company is gay. Like Apple. This is the, this is the, uh, the cabal. It's like you're gay, you're, you're, you're bald.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You say, you know, I like the, I like the way you look, I'm going to give you the. Wait a minute. Could it be, could the military all be bald gay guys? Anything's possible. Well, that's good. Yeah. Well, I was. going there. But it's possible, yeah, I guess. Well, isn't that the definition of why we need
Starting point is 00:01:35 affirmative action to get people with hair back into the military? I don't think that was the reason. Oh, okay. Well, I was quite amazed when I saw your clips come in this morning because I saw the return of a feature we have not had for several months. Yes, it's because this feature is produced by Steve Jones. Ah, the clip collector. Indeed. So, Show we roll it out since we're talking about bald guys? Yeah, hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We've got to do the jingle, man.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Experiment by J-C-D. Can't just stop in the middle of it. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending three-by-three. You've got to have the jingle. I mean, that's the whole point. And, of course, the point of the three-by-three is that these guys can't do any independent reporting. It's all pretty much the same from different people.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Here we go. Let's start with, which he was just picking. NBC. NBC. The topic was shrouded in secrecy beforehand and security was tight. Some of the nation's most senior military leaders ordered to board buses at 3.30 a.m. Oh no. And then wait hours for the event to begin, according to defense officials. This speech today is about people. And it's about culture. Defense Secretary Pete Higgsath telling generals and admirals who'd flown in from all over the world to get on board with a series of changes. The words I'm speaking today,
Starting point is 00:03:00 are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign. The new standards include new grooming rules that prohibit beards, and a requirement that everyone in combat roles must meet the highest male standard for physical fitness. A change that could impact women in uniform. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it. He also plans to overhaul equal opportunity programs and the role of the Inspector General. New recruits could also see change. lifting restrictions on how far drill instructors can go.
Starting point is 00:03:33 They can swear, and yes, they can put their hands on recruits. This does not mean they can be reckless or violate the law, but they can use tried and true methods to motivate. Of terror. New recruits. Retired Lieutenant General Mark Hurtling is concerned about the impact all of it may have on troops. To hear the kinds of things that came out of the secretary's mouth shows that he doesn't really respect them as contributors. to the combat arms or fighting our nation's wars.
Starting point is 00:04:03 President Trump today endorsing Hegst's speech and repeating his ultimatum. If you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future. In the president's remarks, which were highly political, he also defended the use of troops in American cities. And I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Now, a couple of things. First observation, and I'm quite sure the president will be mad about this. The continuous hum and buzz in the audio was just atrocious. It was across the board. The president does not like that. No, he doesn't. He gets irked about it. He knows it's not good because it's not good for clipage.
Starting point is 00:04:53 The no agenda show, it's not good for the no agenda show. My boys! And the other just local observation is when we elected a new sheriff here in Gillespie County, new sheriff, my buddy, Mike, who you know Mike, because I've talked about him, he is the former curvil cop with anger management issues. Oh, yes. He's now the lieutenant. And the first thing he did was no beards and get rid of the fat guts. It's like a thing. This was not surprising to me.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And let me tell you, when it comes to the Fredericksburg Police Department, although he has no jurisdiction over that, or certainly over the Sheriff's Department. Yeah, we had fat sheriffs waddling around. And it's like PT, everybody, mandatory PT, height and weight, we got to get in shape. And we got to look good for the public. That seems like not a very crazy thing, but everyone was so upset about it. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:54 The thing they left out of that clip, it was the hexet going on about how embarrassing it is to have a bunch of fat admirals in the Pentagon. I have that clip for later if you want it. Well, let's go to, that was NBC. That was NBC.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Let's go to ABC. ABC it is. In an unprecedented meeting, which is a former weekend Fox and Friends host broadcast live. I love this. I love... Actually, I think in my...
Starting point is 00:06:22 Radnitz is over. She's a drama. McQueen. In my clip, I think they said Fox News weekend host. Did she say weekend host just to annihilate him? In an unprecedented meeting, which the former weekend Fox and Friends hosts podcast live, Secretary Pete Hegseth, warning hundreds of combat-tested generals, admirals, and senior officers. They're not all combat tested. I don't think that's true. Can't you receive a star? No, of course, that's impossible. Half of them are just desk jockeys flown in from around the world, that The military under his leadership will be dramatically changed.
Starting point is 00:06:59 No more identity months, DEI offices. Oh, now the audio's really bad. I could not get past it. Dudes in dresses. Yeah. No more climate change worship. No more division, distraction, or gender delusions. No more debris.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We are done with that. While the generals and admiral sat largely silent through the speech, Heggseth said military. fitness and standards will be enforced. No more fat generals or admirals, he said. I don't want my son serving alongside troops who are out of shape or in combat unit with females who can't meet the same combat arms physical standards as men. For those ground combat roles, which women have been performing for more than a decade, the high male standard will now be the norm. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs,
Starting point is 00:07:50 so be it. But Hegseth was not just talking personnel, but policy. The rules of engagement meant to protect civilians and non-combatants, those, he said, have become too politically correct. We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. President Trump then took the stage to address the officers. And if you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future. telling his audience of some of the most experienced warfighters in the generation,
Starting point is 00:08:28 the military should practice on American cities. I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military. The trolling still works. It's unbelievable. It still works. Yeah, we're going to throw them into the cities, man. We're going to train there. Urban Combat Warfare. Trained in the cities. I would tell them. stop the show. I'm like, I'm sorry, Generals, you got to wait for a second.
Starting point is 00:08:56 We got a ground loop here. Is that the end of that clip? Yes, the end of the clip. Oh, huh. Ended the same way as NBC. Did CBS do anything different? Well, not generally speaking, but CBS, I'm always pushing these toward the end because CBS is the one that's on the short leash.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Oh, right. The company's been taken over by Paramount. So they're at the, it's like the, I'm going to get fired anyway, so let's just say what I feel like. Nearly 800 of America's top military leaders were summoned from around the globe. Oh, he didn't use the warfighters meme. Disappointing. A political officers who remain silent as their commander-in-chief took the stage and offered this greeting. You can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank. There goes your future. That set the tone for more awkward moments to come.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Did they all laugh when he said that? It sounds to me like they're laughing. when he says that. I watched the thing and I didn't notice that they were laughing at least the micing that I heard. That may have been sweetened. I noticed the other network everybody. No, ABC had it too.
Starting point is 00:10:02 They all had the same. Maybe it's just compressed noise. I don't know. Stage and offered this greeting. You can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank. There goes your future. That set the tone for more awkward moments to come, including the president's suggestion that
Starting point is 00:10:16 dangerous U.S. cities like those where National Guard are currently deployed should be used as training grounds for U.S. troops. This is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room. That's a war, too. It's a war from within. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth opened the meeting and ripped into diversity initiatives put in place by previous administrations.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Hold on a second. No more identity months. He said that the troops are going to be used in the cities as if it was a done deal when Trump just said it as kind of a joke, a troll. Yeah. But according to the CBS, no, that's what's going to happen. I was not asserted by anybody. No.
Starting point is 00:10:59 But he did, but they did include the line, this is a war from within, which to me was the entire reason for the change to the Department of War. Can we treat each state as an individual, you know, like 60 day? Does the timer reset for each state? We have a war? Just, just asking for a friend. Defense Secretary. Pete Hegseth opened the meeting and ripped into diversity initiatives put in place by previous
Starting point is 00:11:26 administrations. No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses. No more climate change worship. No more division, distraction, or gender delusions. That includes, he said, a return to the highest male physical fitness standards. I don't want my son. Male. Serving alongside troops who are out of shape. Or in combat unit with females who can't meet the same combat arms physical standards as men. And he took aim at the highest ranking officers. It's completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon and leading commands around the country and the world.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It's a bad look. Vermont Democrat Peter Welch said the meeting was unnecessary and a bad idea. It's a further effort to politicize the military. It's very, very alarming. There is no reason to bring all of these people an enormous taxpayer expense to Washington. Oh, no. How'd you get a pep talk. Hague said told the audience they could disagree with them, but...
Starting point is 00:12:25 The words I'm speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign. Yeah. It was interesting. I'm all bent out of shape over that. Over the costs, please, Congress. Yeah, I know. The cost of flying them all in.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Congress takes military aircraft all the time. Yeah, and the military air, the military. The military aircraft are going there anyway. Hit your ride. Hit your ride. Well, there were a couple other things that took place around the military and this meeting. I think this is from, this is John Berman from Anderson Pooper 360. Some remarkable new reporting tonight on Defense Secretary Pete Hexas's long running battle with his own staff.
Starting point is 00:13:18 reporting. It's not just new reporting. It's not just reporting. It's remarkable new reporting tonight on Defense Secretary Pete Hexas' long-running battle with his own staff and top advisors, as well as the country's top military commanders. It comes by the way of the Washington Post. There's the headline, Pentagon Plans, widespread random polygraphs, NDAs to staunch leaks. Random testing and quoting from the port, all military service members, civilian employees, and contract workers, within the office of the Defense Secretary and the joint staff, estimated to be more than 5,000 personnel would be required to sign a non-disclosure agreement that prohibits the release of non-public information without approval or through a defined process. What are we going to do for our sources? That's according to a draft memo from Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Now, the polygraph plan is laid out... No, of course it's not new, but there's a kicker at the end. A separate document also from Feinberg, again, this is according to the Post, and this builds on earlier... CNN reporting that Secretary Hexeth had threatened then-acting Joint Chiefs Chairman Chris Grady with polygraph testing because he believed Admiral Grady was leaking to undermine him. Also that his office had rolled out a policy earlier this year requiring Pentagon officials across the service to sign nine non-disclosure agreements
Starting point is 00:14:36 before being read in on projects, initiatives, and other work products. And yes, it appears that all of this from us and from the post was leaked. That's why it's remarkable. I get it. It was. leaked. Now, the president, that's good. The president also gave us an update. I'm not sure if this was before, during, or after. It was the same podium on the, on the Golden Dome. You know, this is our security blanket all around the country. The Golden Dome, everybody. And we've begun construction on what we call the Golden Dome missile defense shield. It'll be the most sophisticated in the world. You watched it. Do well until they had some problems at the end.
Starting point is 00:15:18 with a little bit of a lack of ammunition. What is he talking about here? Do we miss an update that they had a little bit of a problem? Was there an attack that wasn't thwarted? Because we had a lack of ammunition. I have no idea I was talking about it. It must be inside stuff for people. I think so.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Like one of those little message you word to the wise kind of thing that we don't know. Defense of ammunition, but they've got that taken care of. But I tell you, what we're doing is so. good and we deserve it. You know, we help other countries with it. We don't have it ourselves. And Canada called me a couple of weeks ago. They want to be part of it.
Starting point is 00:15:58 To which I said, well, why don't you just join our country? You become 51, become the 51st state. And you get it for free. So, I don't know if that made a big impact, but it just make a lot of sense. It actually makes, because they're having a hard time up there in Canada now.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Because, as you know, with tariffs, everyone's coming into our country. we have off script now more investment that we've ever had before 17 trillion dollars coming as an example in four years Biden didn't have one trillion we have 17 trillion more than that in eight months coming in where's my check and they're coming in from Canada Mexico from Europe from all over AI auto plants everybody's coming back to the United States 17 trillion okay well that sounds that sounds interesting And then my favorite part of the summit was the stair bopping.
Starting point is 00:16:52 We're witnessing the triumphant return of peace through strength. We have great peace through strength. America is respected again as a country. We were not respected with Biden. They looked at him falling downstairs every day. Every day the guy's falling downstairs. He said, it's not our president. We can't have it.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I'm very careful. You know, when I walk downstairs, like I'm on stairs, like these stairs, I walk very slowly Nobody has to set a record Just try not to fall Because it doesn't work out well And they laughed A few of our presidents have fallen
Starting point is 00:17:30 And it became a part of their legacy We don't want that You walk nice and easy You don't have to set any record Be cool Be cool when you walk down But don't Don't pop down the stairs
Starting point is 00:17:43 So one thing with Obama I had zero respect for him as a president but he would bop down those stairs. I've never said, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. He'd go down the stairs. Wouldn't hold on a shit. It's great.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I don't want to do it. I guess I could do it. But eventually, bad things are going to happen. And it only takes once. But he did a lousy job as president. That's just bafflingly funny. Like, just, you know, gives a shout-out to Obama.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I didn't have respect from his president. But, man, he could walk stairs. That guy was great to walk in stairs. Bap, bap, blah. Bopping down. Who was it? He's dancing up there. Was it President Ford who also tripped?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Four, a Ford trip more than once. Once it happens twice, you're... You're done. Your label. You're labeled as a stair tripper. And then Reuters, fine North Sea Nexus outfit, came up with this little ditty. Another part of the Pentagon's push to reshape the armed forces involves tapping Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who are turning their talents to military tech.
Starting point is 00:18:47 That is the Bullfrog, an AI-powered machine gun that tracks and shoots down drones. It's built by Allen Control Systems, founded by Steve Simony, a former Silicon Valley star, who sold his startup to DoorDash for $125 million. Defense and space reporter David Jeans has more now on the entrepreneurs creating the future of warfare. I think what they bring with them is they have higher tolerance for risk, a higher tolerance for failure, and a higher tolerance for raising hype around their companies. They also bring with them a new energy to this space, which has disrupted the traditional prime contractors like Boeing, Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin.
Starting point is 00:19:37 David says that what's been most striking is the speed at which Silicon Valley has shifted. It was only in recent years that people were protesting military companies and military work, and now Silicon Valley and its investors are all in on a more patriotic and more military-focused approach. I think that that has come with the understanding that the world is starting to feel like a less safe place. And there's also an understanding that the U.S. military is largely unprepared. for the future of warfare, and the Silicon Valley believes it has the answer to help it modernize. Well, what Silicon Valley also brings is the scam. Oh, the scam angle, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And the scam, I'll get, we've discussed this many times before, but the scam angle in Silicon Valley, probably before the AI rush was, we just got to get users. Well, it's still the same, of course, with AI rush. Eyeballs. Eyeballs. We'll make it up on volume. Don't worry about it. So right before the board meeting, where you're about to ask for more money, you go to some of these companies called Monopoly and I forget all the names.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And you buy eyeballs. And they come by your site and look at these stats. We were hockey sticking. We're to the writing up. We need more money. We need more money to be able to cover it. It's going great. So Silicon Valley, they're doing the scam.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And it's working out pretty well. Denmark is the main target because they've got the money apparently. Denmark is on high alert after reporting several drone incursions in recent weeks. 35 French soldiers are already on the ground. France, the US and Sweden have also sent anti-dron systems. But for many Danes, the deployment only underlines their country's military vulnerability. Food. Some residents are now bracing for the worst.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Listen to this. Sarah just bought one of the survival kits distributed by the Danish government. Literally, it is a water but foldable. water bag. It's a cracker and a radio flashlight. Earlier in the year, people in the EU were advised to stockpile enough food, water and essentials for 72 hours, part of a strategy to increase readiness in the event of a military attack or other national crises. I got quite scared and I really wanted to do something. I'd have a little less anxiety feeling. The anxiety isn't unfounded. Four times last week, two mysterious drones
Starting point is 00:22:09 were spotted over military bases and airports across the country. Mysterious. At the same time, three ships with Russian links were spotted at the Danish coast. Investigations are ongoing, but authorities say they may have served as launch pads of the drones. Denmark is among Europe's biggest donors to Ukraine
Starting point is 00:22:25 and also hosts a factory that produces fuel for its long range missiles. This is incredible bull crap Silicon Valley scam. I have two clips on this. Well, let me play my final clip. and then, because I'm, the SIOP is paying off. That's, well, actually, what are your clips?
Starting point is 00:22:42 What are your clips? These are from the Morning Edition, an NPR. Oh, yeah, good. Yeah, let's play these. This is good. And this after the drones, and this is the, I don't know how you can get, you know, the Danes are supposed to be the happiest people on Earth. Was that the Danes?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Yeah. Yeah, it was the Danes. Or the Norwegians. I can't remember. No, no, no. And was the Danes. happy but they're depressed. They take a lot of hands to are happy. They're happy. They're happy. But it seems to me if they're happy, they're so happy and they
Starting point is 00:23:17 just turn on a dime into being like afraid of their own shadow. I need a radio flashlight with a hand crank. This is a part one. The U.S. and other countries in NATO have sent military troops and equipment to Denmark to protect its capital while hosting meetings with European Union leaders starting today. Ukraine even sent some help too. A week of flights by unidentified drones caused fear that Russia might be involved, but no proof. Terry Schultz reports from Copenhagen that many Danes are rethinking their personal security. The Danish government still can't say who staged the mysterious drone flights every day and night for a week. It's a script now. Mysterious drone flights is the same as my
Starting point is 00:24:03 clip, it's all mysterious. With ship, maybe launched from ships with links to Russia. Sausage links? With NATO allies and Ukrainian experts now rushing to protect the capital, it's harder to tell people not to be afraid. Instead, Justice Minister Peter Homelgard warns them, this is their new reality. We will be in a situation that is also similar to this one again.
Starting point is 00:24:29 That is the nature of hybrid warfare. For Trine, a hotel receptionist, the drones have already caused too many sleepless nights. We agreed not to share last names of people we spoke to and requested. Because we couldn't pronounce them anyway. Given the widespread panic. I live very near the airport. So every night, these helicopters and stuff are going around and around. I really need to sleep.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I have to... Around my house all night. She's not the only one whose nerves are afraid. Everybody is talking about it. Are they worried? Very worried. I am. My kids are.
Starting point is 00:25:06 My family are. We make these emergency plans. What do we do? So we actually, we prepped. We prepared. That meant, she said, checking their canned food supply, stocking up on water, and reviewing their plan with other family members in case physical evacuation is needed. Oh, man, I have, before we play the second clip, I have a boots on the ground from one of our producers, Paul in Denmark.
Starting point is 00:25:30 First of all, Copenhagen is gridlocked and helicopters are flying overhead all the time because of the stupid EU summit. They're all at Christiansborg, the parliament palace. So Schlotsholmen is closed off and then some stuff is happening in Friedrichstadt, where Amalienborg and a lot of organizations, embassies are. Conversations with people the last few days gave me the following points. Nobody believes anything. So I don't know where they got these Danes, but nobody believes anything. they are because the the the leaders marie frederickson and uh lars loco rasm ramosen all point to russia straight away while police and defense forces still maintain they don't know who it was
Starting point is 00:26:16 an organized crime is an actual possibility so it's like you know i don't know where they got these scared danes from but that doesn't seem to be the boots on the ground situation well this is the messaging that they're trying to do then. Yeah. So this has been orchestrated. You have clips. You had a clip of it. I got two clips of it. So there's somebody behind it for a reason. We don't know what the reason is.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Oh, no, we do. Of course. Or does just sell more junk? Yes. EU leaders that gathered in Copenhagen on Wednesday gave broad support to proposals to ramp up the development of drone and anti-dron technology. Ahead of the meeting, the European Commission released
Starting point is 00:26:56 a document which outlines four projects that it believes need to be financed and implemented as a matter of urgency. We need money right away. We're all here meeting anyway. It's not a coincidence. The drones and mysterious drones launched from ships that have links to Russia. We need money!
Starting point is 00:27:11 The summit and proposal come as Europe faced a series of airspace violations in recent weeks. So we have to create a European ecosystem that will enable Europe to develop cutting-age drone solutions. Yeah. Inspired by what
Starting point is 00:27:28 they are doing in Ukraine already. The leaders also discussed a proposal which outlines the use of immobilized Russian assets to loan money to Ukraine. Under the plan, Ukraine would repay the loan after Moscow agrees to compensate for damages. The commission would repay Euroclear, which would repay Russia. We are not confiscating the assets, but we are taking the cash balances for loan to Ukraine. Ukraine has to pay back this loan if Russia pays reparations. The plan earned broad support, but was met with resistance by Belgium Prime Minister
Starting point is 00:28:06 Bertrandevir von der Leyen sought to assure his reservations and clarified Belgium cannot be the only member state to carry risks. They've had their eye on this money for so long. They want this money so bad. They finally have figured out a way. And it's the best plan ever. we'll slush fund it through Ukraine, we'll put it in our pockets. Because what are we really talking about? Some jamming devices.
Starting point is 00:28:32 These are all little tiny dumb drones. And, you know, the 800, 3 maybe get through. So it doesn't seem like we already need. We already have some kind of defenses. And oh, by the way, if this whole thing comes to end, Ukraine's on the hook. You guys pay for it. We're going to take it. This is theft.
Starting point is 00:28:52 To me, it seems. obvious. They're stealing this money. But, you know, we're not, we're not taking Russia's money. No, we're just loaning it to Ukraine. But, you know, if there's a ceasefire, if there's a peace deal, Ukraine will pay it back from Russia's own money, from their own reparations. Give me a break. This isn't, it's great. It's such a scam. It's how you do it, I guess. It's like, wow, come on, man. That's creative bookkeeping. Very creative, very, very creative. All right, do we need to play Are there a morning edition clip? Are we good on the drones?
Starting point is 00:29:25 But the other one, there's the two about... Oh, Pfizer. About the drones. The other ones are different if you want to play... Oh, yeah, the other drone. It's changing the topic. Oh, okay. Like other Nordic governments, Denmark urges citizens
Starting point is 00:29:39 to store enough supplies to survive a minimum of three days with no access to electricity, food, or fresh water. Since the drones first appear... What do they expect to happen? And how is this going to stop the drones. I've got, at least I've got water. At least I got a candy bar and a flashlight radio.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It's silly. I mean, and the fact that the, that there's a star link or something. You know, this is dumb. Yeah, that would be usable. Yeah. Food or fresh water. Since the drones first appeared September 22nd, people seem
Starting point is 00:30:14 to be taking the recommendations more seriously than before. A home goods store in a Copenhagen suburb. Sales associate Peter Sandel said 20 liter containers of water were going fast. Like hot cakes. This morning, we have this, this, and this full. Alejandra and Alexander snagged the last camping stove on the store's shelf.
Starting point is 00:30:37 They said until now they'd half-heartedly followed the government advice on stockpiling. But the airspace incursions were a wake-up call. We bought like all the water and all that was before the drones. So now with the drones, we were like, okay. We need to get the last stuff is on the list. It's been a jolt for Danish authorities as well, says Jakob Holgren with the Swedish Institute of International Affairs. Sweden also went through a period like this,
Starting point is 00:31:02 shortly after the start of Russia's full-scale war on Ukraine, he explained, and invested a lot in renovating and expanding its network of bomb shelters. Hogren advises the Danish government to do the same. Living in Denmark, you might have kind of thought that you were shielded from these developments, but this is obviously no longer the case. So if they haven't, it's really high time to make sure that those shelters are repaired and that there is proper information about where you can find them. In the meantime, Trine says she knows what she'd like to do about those disruptive drones.
Starting point is 00:31:36 She joked to her policeman husband. She'd like to borrow one of his weapons. And then my daughter, she's 20, she said, oh, dad, give her a pursuit. She emphasizes, she was kidding. but she hopes the Danish government does decide to shoot the drones down if they show up again. Oh, man. You know what? I can almost predict what's going to happen next. President Trump is going to come out with, well, you got to give us Greenland if you want to be safe. Oh, that's a great. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:32:05 That would be a terrific move. But you know, you want to be safe. Like, we can expand the Golden Dome to Greenland. And we'll give you a little annex over to Denmark. This is, I mean, well, I don't believe that. I think they've just got a bunch of numb nuts because of our boots on the grounds. Like, no one believes it. They all think it's bull crap. The drones have flashing red lights.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, that's what I'm going to do if I'm Russia. I'm going to send a mysterious drone over and announce it with a big flashing red light. I'm a drone. I'm a drone. You know, the funny thing is about it is they're all freaked out about the bomb shelters and all the rest. And like the clip we played in the last show where they talk about. The Russians launched 900 drones into Ukraine and three people were killed. And I brought out, I keep bringing up this, this lack of consistency with, or a logic,
Starting point is 00:33:03 you just said 900 drones to kill three people. What is Denmark worried about? They got enough people. How many people do they have? I don't know what your population is, but it doesn't matter with four or five. drones compared to 900. Yeah, it seems rather odd. And they're worried
Starting point is 00:33:23 that they're what they think the drone, they're going to attack Copenhagen? Why? Well, because they have a monarchy, you know, North Sea Nexus. They're under attack. I mean, I really have no idea. And by the way, that stupid clip you played earlier about that, you know, that automated machine gun with that uses AI,
Starting point is 00:33:45 popped the drones out of this. That thing will take out a flock of geese And it'll become the most controversial product ever Oh look at this 100 geese They're all dead They're trying to go down south Well, I hadn't thought about that But it's, I mean, isn't it obvious?
Starting point is 00:34:04 It's definitely killed birds. But isn't it obvious to people That the European Union meets in Copenhagen I don't even know why they would go there They've got offices It's a pretty town, that's why. They got offices in Luxembourg. They got offices in Belgium.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Copenhagen is one of the prettiest. If anyone wants to travel, they speak a lot of English there. And Copenhagen is one of the prettiest towns in the world. Yes. So they went there for a fun time. And then they brought out some drones. I could have flown that drone over the airport. Who knows who's doing that?
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's the same thing as the New Jersey drones. It could be some jokers. Launch from the Chinese mothership. And we fell for it. I mean, we didn't, but... We didn't fall for it. But the people on the East Coast did. Oh, yeah, we want to know.
Starting point is 00:34:53 But they didn't panic like these guys. They weren't getting water and diving into the bomb shelters. No. Water. That's true. And radio, flashlight radios. Come on. The hand crank to hand crank ones?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah, yeah, hand crank, of course. Of course, someone had a... China had another stockpile of those. Throw them out. Give them to them. Got to get rid of these things. Yeah. The sciops are good today.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I mean, can I just take a little, um, a little detour? Just a quick one with two clips because we identified the Psiops taking place through Discord. Oh, yes, yeah. And it's, it's now everywhere. They even have a name and although they don't mention discord in this first report, they flash on the screen a Discord login. Listen to this. This is Morocco.
Starting point is 00:35:43 After our crowd disperses in the city of Wedgda and the north. Northeast of Morocco, a police fan drives straight into protesters, injuring one of them. An incident that happened on the fourth day of national protests, which show no sign of dying down. Initial peaceful gatherings called for a reform of the education system and improvements to health care, which protesters say the government has been neglecting. Protesters by now greater in number on Tuesday night clashed with security forces in several cities. across the country. Demonstrators threw stones at police who responded with dozens of arrests. Here close to Agadir vehicles were overturned or set alight. Violence that Morocco's association
Starting point is 00:36:32 for the defense of human rights condemned. The violence and repression we've seen in the past few days are really unprecedented. For the first time since at least the 1980s, the youth can't even protest. They're being repressed. disperse before they can even assemble and chant their slogans. The protest movement's organizers, the little-known collective Gen Z-212 have also called for CAM. And in a communique issued on Tuesday night, Morocco's coalition government said it would listen to the protesters' demands and that it was willing to respond in a positive and responsible manner.
Starting point is 00:37:09 So this is the new group, Gen Z-212.12. they activate these kids on discord, and they're doing the same thing in Madagascar. Under mounting pressure from the streets, Madagascan President Andrazoel says he's dissolving the government. The leader forced to take action after several days of protests across the country. Maybe we haven't lived up to your expectations or listen to your cries or your fears. What began as a youth-led movement against, frequent power and water cuts quickly grew into a larger
Starting point is 00:37:46 wave of discontent. The president just keeps lying. He doesn't listen to us. All we want is for him to step down. We want change. Change and hope. At the forefront of the movement is Gen Z. Despite the violent crackdowns,
Starting point is 00:38:01 bloody clashes with police leaving several dead and dozens injured. The young protesters are vowing to continue accusing others of taking advantage of the unrest. Now listen to this. We will peace. We were singing, shouting, calling for our rights, the right to live. But then some people took advantage of the situation, and others acted out,
Starting point is 00:38:20 not really following the Gen Z movement's peaceful approach. Despite this abundance of natural resources, Madagascar remains one of the poorest countries in the world. The three quarters of the population living below the poverty line. Gen Z, Gen Z. This is it. This is the new Arab Spring. Oh, we need bread. We don't have any bread.
Starting point is 00:38:42 This is Gen Z. 212. This is an op. And the Madagascar government, the president dismissed the government over it. Oh, we'll listen to these Gen Zitters. The Gen Zitters. Oh, yeah. They're, oh, yeah, they're in control now. Please. We have a Discord thing happening here. In San Francisco or in your house? Well, San Francisco is where Discord is. Yeah. But you can set up your own Discord server. You don't need to be part of the Discord. company. I think it's, isn't it just open source software at this point? Ah, you know, the whole thing seems like an Intel opt to me, but people sick day. Play this clip. This is the late. This is the
Starting point is 00:39:25 latest because I guess blackout didn't go anywhere. People's sick day. What if millions of us stopped working, stopped spending, and stop producing all at the same time. There's a movement brewing. It's called the people sick day. And what it is is a three day economic blackout. That means no work, no shopping, no production, just pause. Three days where we remind the system that without us, nothing moves. But here's the twist. We're not giving out the dates until 48 hours before because we don't want to give the corporation's time to plan and stop us from having this happen. Because let's be honest, if they knew what we were planning, they'd shut it down before it even started. This isn't a protests. This is a strategic disruption to the machine that feeds off of our hard work and
Starting point is 00:40:16 labor. If you want to be a part of it, go to the people's sickday.com, join the discord and join the movement. This is how we stand up against what is happening in our country. We need to shut it down. We need to shut it down. So go to the people's sickday.com. Sign up for the discord and you can get more information there. Yeah, discord is, it's open source you can set up your own discord and it feels so you know like underground this
Starting point is 00:40:49 TikTok is rife with people talking about the people's discord let's see what this is chronically ill discord oh she's just chronically ill okay never mind she's not people sick she's chronically ill discord man that's that's the thing it is an op
Starting point is 00:41:06 an op machine We made Discord for gamers like ourselves, but other engineers have found it to be a great tool. I'll bet they do. And it's so easy. These kids are all hopped up on medication anyway. Sciop them, these Gen Z ears. Zetters.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Gen Zed 212. It's a new world, John. It's the same old. It's the same old world. But now we're, they just keep moving the goalposts around. Now we're just supposed to hate our children.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Now we hate our children. Gen Zed children. I hate you, child. You're my child. I hate you. You're ruining everything with your people's sick day.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Gen Zed. People's sick day. People's going to go nowhere. Well, no, of course not. Because they don't have the agitators in place like they do in these other countries.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And also they're not cutting the power. I'm sure that doesn't help. No, yeah, got to cut the power. Yeah, that's the best way to go. So I have a couple of, just as a little side bit, I've got a couple of AI clips here. Okay. Not AI clips, but AI versions of, you know, they're starting to, I don't know if you followed the sombrero scandal. How could I not?
Starting point is 00:42:29 Well, it's possible. One of the funniest things this year. When I mentioned it to me, she said, what are you talking about? Really? Well, she's busy running for city council. so uh and if anyone hasn't heard the uh the original now this is not safe for work oh this is the a i schumer this is what started it off this was the original one this is got oh no beeps no beeps there's no beeps okay all right this has got schumer standing
Starting point is 00:42:56 next to jeffreys who's wearing a sombrero with a big mustache look guys there's no way to sugar code it nobody likes democrats anymore we have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit. Not even black people want to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens free
Starting point is 00:43:19 health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English. So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
Starting point is 00:43:35 You know, now I'm really realizing how poor a job of AI that is. It doesn't even sound remotely like Schumer. I think it does. Oh, no. They trained it on his voice. I don't think so at all. And there's a, after that ran, there was a bunch of depressed conferences about what a scandal this is and how terrible racist that Trump administration is. And Schumer was bent out of shape about it. He felt very upset. And it's gone to the point where now Vance is going to be giving out red sombreros that's a, uh, make America great again. And so there was a, the last thing that came out is this, which is the AI Vance. This is Vance with a sombrero on, but this is, again, this is all fake. It's not Vance. And his sombreros junk, I mean, just a phony-looking thing. And this is what he did.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Okay, this is much simple. The Democrat Party is much retardo, okay? Mucho retardo. Wow. Especially El Hakemo Jeffries and the Chucko Schumer. They are extra retardo. So El Presidente and I cannot negotiate with these Democrat retardoes. It's imposcibly, much impossibly.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Grasias, amigos. Oh, and make sure you elvoto for L.J.D. Vanzo in L. 2028. The whole thing. And the funny part is, is that the whole shutdown is really playing right into President Trump's cards. I mean, this is part of Doge. Like, we're going to, we're going to rip. people reduction in force that it's almost like it was planned and they took the bait yeah well they've been doing that's kind of consistent taking the bait that's just like wow don't you see it
Starting point is 00:45:19 well especially and they like to play the old clips i didn't make it i didn't this is all over the place but there's a collection of schumer clips that goes back to 2009 where he goes on and on about how stupid it is to shut down the government and he would never do it and blah blah blah and it's one clip after another of him saying pretty much the same thing, which is crazy to shut down the government. It's just something the Republicans want to do. We would never do it. I would never vote for this. And he just on and on. And I guess, according to some reports, Mike Johnson had a reel of all these Democrats saying pretty much the same thing that he had running outside of his office on a monitor, just a bunch of, you know, super cut after another. I have a couple of shutdown theater
Starting point is 00:46:02 clips, which I think are probably relevant. This is going back to the pooper box. We believe that layoffs are imminent. They are unfortunately a consequence of this government shutdown. In fact, that's not normally a consequence of government shutdowns. Furloughs are, so is working without pay. But typical or not, the White House is doing it and the House Speaker today defended it. Look, if Russ vote has to make tough decisions, whoever is the director of the Austin
Starting point is 00:46:28 Management and budget in a scenario like this, has to make tough choices. You're talking about permanently firing people. Well, I'm not sure that hasn't happened before. But if the authority is there and he sees a program that is wasting taxpayer dollars, you and I can both agree the government doesn't do everything in the most efficient matter. I mean, constitutionally, that's your job. Article 1, that is your job. It is until Chuck Schumer decides to hand the keys to the president, which is literally what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Boom, there it is. That's exactly what happened. It was like played right into it. It's unbelievable. And of course, it's sad. because a lot of people will lose their jobs. I think we're going to see hundreds of thousands of reduction in force, which is if you look at the Doge executive order, it's like all in play.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It was very odd. Let's see, I have another one here. The administration is also using the crisis to either pause or cancel billions of dollars in already appropriated spending in blue states, including $18 billion for two big mass transportation projects here in New York. Vice President Vance was asked about that today. Does announcing that today mean that you guys are going to squeeze Chuck Schumer's home state until he blinks? Look, I haven't talked to Russ about this this morning, but look, I'm sure that Russ is heartbroken about the fact that he's unable to give certain things to certain constituencies.
Starting point is 00:47:54 The Russ, he is referring to as Russell Vote, the White House budget director. The vice president was also asked about the racist AI videos of minority. leader Jeffreys, the president has been posting on social media. This is the latest from today. Is it helpful to post pictures of leader Jeffries and a sombrero if you're trying to have good faith talks with him? Oh, I think it's funny. The president's joking and we're having a good time. You can negotiate in good faith while also poking a little bit of fun at some of the absurdities of the Democrats' positions and even, you know, poking some fun at the absurdity of the Democrats themselves. With thousands of federal workers now either working without pay, not working at all,
Starting point is 00:48:32 or even facing layoffs and millions of Americans not able to access federal services, it's hard to see this as an opportunity to, as the vice president has said, be having a good time. But there it is. What I'm missing in all of these reports, where's your Mexican Americans who are all mad about this? Oh, that's why they're not mad about it. No, of course not. Of course.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Of course. That's the whole point. It's like they can't even find one Mexican to say. You'd think they'd find one Mexican to say something. Pay one Mexican to say it. It's racist. Here's the continuation of this. So we played sound for Vice President of Vance, not just defending that AI racist video of manure leader Jeffrey's warning a sombreros, but also like celebrating that video. And it was playing on a loop in the briefing room today. What are you hearing from the inside about that?
Starting point is 00:49:23 It was not only just playing on a loop in the briefing room. If you've never been in the press briefing room, for those who have been, there are loudspeakers overhead so you can hear. announcements or what's being said or if there's an event going on with the president and the Rose Garden, for example, they were playing that that mariachi music as well over the loudspeakers for all the press that was coming in and out of the White House today inside the press briefing room. It just kind of gives you a window, John, into how they're dealing with this and how they believe they have the upper hand when it comes to the messaging here. And there's a moment here. They're being heavily criticized over this, over these posts by the president,
Starting point is 00:49:57 by Democrats. And instead of backing off or apologizing for it, they're leaning into it. And they're playing the music over loudspeakers and on repeat inside the briefing room, because they simply don't care about that criticism. It's like playing Metallica outside the Taliban enemy camp. You know, it's like, come on, this is, this is so tip. We've even done it, what you do. Remember this? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh, come on. Ah, good times, good times. Miss Obama. I miss him.
Starting point is 00:50:43 So, by the way, I didn't get any clips, but did you hear Michelle in their latest podcast with some, with her shrink? Oh, goodness, I must have missed it. What did she say? She goes on a rampage about how. how her and the girls, and especially her, just couldn't take it because the way Barack chewed. Really? That,
Starting point is 00:51:09 and they were on and on about it. You're at the end of your marriage when that's, when that's irritating. No kidding. That's kind of end of days. I don't get it. He's just this disgusting, she says, to watch him chew. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I remember my second wife as it was ending. She got mad because the way I clinked. to my spoon into the bowl of cereal. Like, gee, that's so annoying. Yes. Typical, that is when a woman is like fed up. At the end. She's at the end.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's done. Yeah, this is what's going on here. In fact, they had to be played that clip on Gutfeld when Drew Pinsky was on. And he said exactly what you just said. He says, this sounds like the end of the relationship when things like chewing drive you nuts. The way the guy chews. I mean, come on. Here's a CBC report on the racist deep fakes.
Starting point is 00:52:01 The fight has become deeply personal after President Donald Trump posted AI videos on social media attacking his opponents. One video shows Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic House Leader, wearing a Photoshopped sombrero and mustache. While an AI Schumer makes derogatory comments about black and Latino voters, Jeffreys called it fake and racist. Oh, I think it's funny. The president's joking, and we're having a good time. The vice president says good faith negotiations can take place in this environment, dismissing concerns. Hakeem Jeffrey said it was racist, and I know that he said that, and I honestly don't even know what that means. This is symbolic of the bitterness of this moment, with no sign a resolution is in the near future.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Do you remember when, I think with Trump's first term, he had some Native Americans in the Oval Office, and he was like, you know, we've got a we've got pocahontas uh in the in congress do you remember that only vaguely yeah be nice to have a clip of it yeah i'm actually looking um i don't think so but it was it was funny well i got some government shut down clips and and what i'd like to know before we get to your clips uh does this bother government employees we have a lot of them listening that this jokery is going on? I don't think so yet because it started October 1st.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Checks aren't until the 15th. I presume they get paid every two weeks. Right? I don't know. I think so. Here's air traffic controller. I'm an air traffic controller in the western U.S. A lot of confusion regarding the government shutdown on ATC.
Starting point is 00:53:47 By law, ATC must operate. Controllers must show up to work even during a shutdown. The FAA has emergency. funding through Thursday night at midnight in the event the shutdown isn't over. By then, after that, the agency and controllers will be operating on an IOU. By law, all federal employees will receive back pay once the government reopens. During the last shutdown in 2019, controllers missed two paychecks. On the last day of the $0 paycheck, about 10 controllers at the critical Jacksonville Center,
Starting point is 00:54:14 Jacksonville Center, called off sick causing severe delays. There were also excessive sickouts at other key facilities. Since controllers now know that we can use sick leave without being charged, there's no incentive to come to work if we're not going to get paid anyway. Our union, NATCA, is spineless and basically begging us to do the right thing and not call of sick. I predict once funding runs out on Friday, there will be mass sickouts, crippling airlines, forcing Congress to do their job and pass a spending bill reopening the government. Your servant of the skies and master of the microphone.
Starting point is 00:54:49 so that's no one mad about the sombrero but no one's going to get mad about the sombrero except jeffreys and schumer yeah yeah they're the targets same with the customs border patrol boots on the ground we were told to come to work tomorrow no matter what we are HR and in charge of onboarding a few days ago they were designating just three or four
Starting point is 00:55:13 employees to come in and bring new hires on board as of now though we're all going to work we'll get a paycheck for September 22nd through the 30th and get back paid for the rest later. But the shutdown will only really negatively impact us if the shutdown goes through October 24th. So, you know, we have some time here for the more sombrero videos.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Well, there's only five, the difference is five Democrats. If they can get five, which is not a lot, by moderates to feel the pressure and then change their vote and the next thing you know, it's done. So that shouldn't take too long. I don't think they're pushing it right now because I think they do want to do what you said,
Starting point is 00:55:51 which is entrapped the Democrats so they can start firing people. But let's go with this government shutdown. This is from NPR. Oh, you've got a series. Oh, goodness. Oh, I'm sorry. No, this is from NTD. So it's more, it's more objective.
Starting point is 00:56:08 More anal. Day one of government shutdown, Senate Democrats blocked a procedural vote to reconsider a stopgap bill to reopen. the government. Our Washington correspondent, Luis Adoro Martinez, has the latest on the story. Republicans thought that they could barrel us into a shutdown because they didn't want to protect the health care of the American people. Well, now they've seen. They can't bully us. They can't barrel us. They don't have the votes to push their partisan bill through that did nothing to protect American health care. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has maintained his maximalist demands,
Starting point is 00:56:43 despite that members of his conference have already shown opposition to hold government funding hostage. We were elected to solve the problems of this country, not make them worse. And that's exactly what Donald Trump and his Republican henchmen are seeking to do. Does that language still work? His henchman. By the way, what does it say, why did you barrel me? What is he talking? What barrel?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Oh, the Republicans are trying to barrel us. What? I don't know. What does that mean? Have you ever heard that phrase before or that wordage? Like, that term, barrel? Like, what is it? What does it stretch over a barrel?
Starting point is 00:57:22 Pull us up, put us over a barrel, over a barrel? Like, I haven't heard it in this way, no. I think he just, it just came to him. He said it once and he had to say it again. It's just, he's an idiot. Let's play part two. It is now a messaging war. And despite the fact that Congress holds the power of the person,
Starting point is 00:57:43 Democrats are blaming President Trump for the shutdown. Republicans maintain their willingness to negotiate with Democrats their extension of Affordable Care Act health care tax credits that they are demanding. This is not the time to take the American people. You meant to back up. I thought I heard him say the Horrible Care Act. People passed it. Affordable, never mind.
Starting point is 00:58:04 The reason is maintaining their willingness to negotiate with Democrats, their extension of Affordable Care Act, health care tax credits that they are demanding. Now, I would just stop here for a second. What exactly are they talking about? Because the Republicans say, well, they just want free health care for illegal immigrants. And the Democrats are saying that your Obamacare, your Affordable Care Act premiums will go up over 100%. Which one do you understand to be true, if either? The Republican position is true.
Starting point is 00:58:36 For one thing, the change in any of the Obamacare stuff doesn't take place until after this continuing resolution is already done. Right. So it's not even within this period. So that's, that's bull crap. And the fact is, good point. It's not until 2026. Yeah. Yeah. So that's nonsense. And so the other thing is, is it's obvious that because they've said it. I mean, Maxine Waters said it. And this is what that Indian guy said it, that they want to keep up payments, a top notch health care for the illegal immigrants. Maxine Waters said it like that? She's, she was, they had like, uh, it was. what's his name the pillow guy has his little TV network Mike Lindell the pillow
Starting point is 00:59:19 Mike Lindell's TV and they had some girl hounding Maxine harassing her basically going on and on and then
Starting point is 00:59:27 got her Maxine to say isn't just just for health care for illegals and then she kept hounding her and Maxine got pissed off
Starting point is 00:59:35 she says look we want health care for everybody period and walked off so that's what it's about It's about premium health care. I have the clip.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I have the clip. I have the clip. Hold on. Maxine Waters snapped when a reporter asked her about Democrats forcing a government shutdown over health care for illegal immigrants, which is weird because usually she loves talking about giving away other people's money. Where Americans quit it. Stop it. This is the kind of journalism we don't need. You are divisive. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:00:11 You're being divisive. No. please don't you don't need to ask that question you're just trying to get controversy here you're not going to get it for me we want to save health care for all people thank you thank you congresswoman maxi for all people yeah all people health care yes so that's so the republicans are right okay we continue this is not the time to take the american people hostage the ACA credits don't run out until December. But the best way to do that is to open the government
Starting point is 01:00:45 and let's get back to this thing called regular order so we can have those debates. We can have those committee hearings. We can have those negotiations. Senate Republicans are focusing their messaging on moderate Democrats calling on them to vote for the continuing resolution to reopen government.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Four more Democrats are needed to do so. I actually don't think it's going to be that long of a shutdown. This is a pure guess from the Vice President of the United States because I think you are saw some evidence that moderate Democrats are cracking a little bit. They understand the fundamental illogic of this. Chuck Schumer, at the behest of a bunch of liberal, far-left activist groups, has walked his Democrat colleagues into a boxed canyon. The continuing resolution that House Republicans pass and Senate Republicans support extents levels of government
Starting point is 01:01:34 funding set by Democrats during the Biden administration. Republicans have also chosen not to enact the spending cuts proposed by the Department of Government Efficiency. Ultimately, Democrats have already voted for current levels of government funding 13 times in the past. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so this is kind of nuts. Let's go to Part 3. Good evening, Mari. What is the White House saying about the government shutdown? Tiff, good evening. Yes, the White House is blaming Democrats for the government shutdown, saying that it impacts active duty troops, critical food assistance, and flood insurance as we enter hurricane season. And Vice President J.D. Vance today is saying this at a surprise
Starting point is 01:02:16 appearance at the White House press briefing. Watch. Whatever those disagreements are, you don't shut down the government over it. For the first time since the Democrats have been in politics, they're now saying that unless we get every policy item that we demand, we're going to shut down the people's government. They're trying to take a hostage and we're not going to let them. The White House website featuring a government shutdown clock and the press secretary leaving this message. on the White House comment line. Thank you for calling the White House comment line. Democrats in Congress have shut down the federal government
Starting point is 01:02:47 because they care more about funding health care for illegal immigrants than they care about serving you. Meanwhile, Vice President Vance says he doesn't think the shutdown will be long. He's calling on more moderate Democrats today to join Republicans in voting to keep the government open. So three moderate Democrats joined 52 Republicans last night. We need five more. While Republicans have offered a close.
Starting point is 01:03:09 clean short-term budget bill, the White House, criticizing Democrats for holding the economy hostage for what it calls free health care for illegal immigrants. Though Democrats say that's not what they're demanding. Political leadership of their party has got it into their heads that the only way to be compassionate is to be compassionate to illegal aliens rather than American citizens. No, the law. The law is clear that no Medicaid, no Medicare, no ACA couldn't go to any undocumented immigrants. So Fetterman voted for the continuing resolution, Cortez Mastro from Nevada and King from Maine.
Starting point is 01:03:49 That's interesting. Man, they must be hating Fetterman right now. It turns out to be a pretty funny dude. Yeah, everyone's surprised by that. You see, he's actually kind of down to earth. Yeah. When he had the stroke, that's when he became a Democrat. You know, then that kind of ebbed away and then he became normal again.
Starting point is 01:04:10 It says something, doesn't it? I get part four, you play. And Tiff, I don't know if you've seen this, but the White House has been replaying this meme in the briefing room. It's a post that President Trump originally put on his truth social of House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries, in a sombrero. Don't cop out through a racist and fake AI video. When I'm back in the Oval Office, office, say it to my face. Hakeem Jeffrey said it was racist, and I know that he said that, and I honestly don't even know
Starting point is 01:04:42 what that means. Like, is he a Mexican-American that is offended by having a sombrero meme? The president's joking, and we're having a good time. Vice President Vance says he makes the solemn promise to stop the sombrero memes if Hakeem helps reopen the government. We're got a sombrero meme you, bro. Wow. the sombrero memes it's notable that vance is really the mouthpiece for this president trump is you know he just
Starting point is 01:05:15 reposted what and by the way if that was an a i meme someone needs to turn their large language model and it wasn't all that great no they're talking about the ai part was schumer's voice right well even i mean the rest of it that wasn't i mean even when the the faith the one with vance which we played had the sombrero on his head the sombrero was fixed Yeah. So when Jeffrey's, with his sombrough, when he turned, it's like the sombrough didn't move in at all. It was just stuck on the frame. This bull crap.
Starting point is 01:05:45 It's very poorly done, to be honest about it. Yes, yes. But Vance is the mouthpiece. That's noticeable. Noticable. I just think that's notable. Let's put it that way. Vance is the one that's doing the talking here.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Of course, he's. He seems to be the point man for the sombrose. Hey, Vance, you just. take the sombrero stuff i'm i'm gonna go to i'm gonna go to get greenland i'll get greenland you get jeffreys yeah wow that's that's pretty incredible okay right so i i predict two weeks what do you think oh it might not even go that long i mean the last time they during the trump's first term it did have a one month it was a month yeah it took a month i remember that and that was the longest ever so who knows
Starting point is 01:06:35 Hmm. Back to AI. But hold on one second. They're going to have to give on something. The Democrats... No, they're with the Republicans? No, they'll have to give the Democrats. No, they don't.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You think the Democrats will just fold because of the sombrero? Like, stop with the sombrero. They don't need but the four votes, they say. I thought it was five, but it's just the same funding that's been going on. there's no reason to change anything. They're supposed to change when you actually do a bill, not the continuing resolution, just keep spending the same money.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah. There's no reason to change. Well, they're going to have to give a reason to buckle. It'll be like, we just didn't want to subject the American people anymore to sombrero memes. I don't know how they, they'll come up with some good reason.
Starting point is 01:07:29 They have to. So I have this, the big scandal going on in AI is to Norwood. This is, these kids. You don't think so? No, it's not a scandal. It's one of the best marketing campaigns I've ever seen. It's outstanding.
Starting point is 01:07:44 They're basically just trying to get an agent, an agent for some woman who is not real. This AI model is not in movies. It doesn't have any gigs booked. Isn't getting sides for scripts. You know, it's like. Yeah, but it's got Hollywood all bent out of shape. They got one person after another going, if anyone hires her, We're going to quit the agency.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I'm telling you, it's a Dutch woman, I think, although she has a British accent. It is a Dutch woman. She, it was just a genius marketing ploy. Like, oh, we're shopping for agents. That's when, because that's one of the hardest things. It is a good bit. Breaking into show business, the first and probably hardest step is getting an agent.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Like, oh, you got an agent? Not yet. I'm trying to get one. No one will take me. Yeah, who's your agent? Well, you also represent, you know, whoever. Julian Andrews. Tom Hanks. Three seasons and a podcast.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Meet Tilly Norwood, the world's most controversial new actor. Can she cry on Graham Norton? Well, she might seem real. On screen and on her social media, take a closer look. Can you tell? Tilly Norwood, 100% AI generated. Yep, she's fake. Tilly Norwood is the first.
Starting point is 01:09:04 creation from a new studio that develops AI actors. And this morning, her mere existence has sparked outrage and concern about the use of artificial intelligence in Hollywood. We have so far lost the plot. What are we doing? The backlash to Tilly Norwood igniting over the weekend after her creator, Dutch actor and comedian Elina Wunderbeldon said multiple talent agents have shown interest in signing the AI actress, according to deadline. That news, prompting real actors to speak out in protest. Emily Blunt calling it really, really scary in an interview with variety urging agencies to please
Starting point is 01:09:39 stop. Vendor Wilden, posting a lengthy statement defending the invention, comparing it to animation or CGI. Writing, Tilly Norwood is not a replacement for a human being but a creative work, a piece of art that sparks conversation. Whoopi Goldberg, among those responding.
Starting point is 01:09:55 The problem with this, in my opinion, humble opinion, don't care. Is that you are suddenly up against something that's been generated with 5,000 other actors. So it's a little bit of an unfair advantage. The debate over Tilly Norwood, just the latest in the battle between creative artists and AI. Where was that report from? Is that from CBS, ABC? Where's that from? NBC, I think. Because I have a CBS, a CBC report from Canada, which sounded remarkably similar.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Three seasons and a podcast. Exactly the same report. Yeah, the same opening. It's the whole, it's the same report. It's a package. Okay. It's a package. Listen, I'll play with the same game.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Three seasons and a podcast. Me too, Tilly Norwood, the world battling with villains on the world. Oh, interesting, a little different. Oh, well, now I have to play it. It's not exactly the same. Three seasons and a podcast. Bragging about getting gigs. About.
Starting point is 01:10:55 About. Bout. This is Tilly Norwood. An AI generated actress. created by the company Particle 6. Its CEO, Eileen van der Velden, says entertainment companies are interested. By the way, I'm not familiar with this Dutch actress and comedian. I haven't really been keeping up, but I don't think she's very well known in Holland.
Starting point is 01:11:19 So with Tilly, you know, when we first launched her, people on... Especially with that accent. Like, no, that's not going to happen. And now, you know, we're going to announce who she's going, who, which agency is going to be... I don't know if she does porn, one as many. I'm out of the business. presenting her in the next few months. She said this during a panel at the Zurich Film Festival last weekend.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Ah, see, that's how she did it. She launched it at the Zurich Film Festival. We're getting an agent for our AI. Since then, Hollywood has been up in arms. Actors like Whoopi Goldberg, Simulieu, and Emily Blunt are speaking out. Same package. This is a, I think Hollywood just distributed a package to everybody, don't you think? Hollywood would be the beneficiary of this.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Of course they would. They love it. These pesky, that's pesky actors. And by the way, thinking it's cheap reminds me of the early days of CGI. Yes. When, you know, they would do a few special effects using the computers that are actually blowing up a building. They had a computer do it. And then pretty soon the movies became so CGI-centric that it costs a fortune in computing power to do it.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So you think it's cheap at first. Yeah. And then it becomes more expensive. Now, I want to, the reason I want to bring this up is because all these people got all I see you see it on all these networks they're all bent out of shape and then the fallback was always well don't worry about it because the public is never going to you know have the same feelings for these sort of celebrities and they went on and on it it's just because it's not a real person so there's not going to be any attachment and they all
Starting point is 01:12:49 kind of ignore hatsuni miku hatsuni miku hatsuni miku Katsuni Maku is a fake person in Japan that is extremely popular and she's been around since at least 2012 she's been around for over a decade and it's a you can look her up H-A-T-U-S-U-S-U-S-U-N-E I'm sorry H-A-T-S-U-N-E-M-I-K-U
Starting point is 01:13:19 pop star and everyone knows she's a fake and everyone loves her Like, she's like the girl next door. And so this, this is more of a threat than they think it is. And everyone ignores the phenomenon. Is she anime, anime or she, real? She's anime, isn't she?
Starting point is 01:13:39 No, she's not anime. Oh, well, I'm looking at Hatsuni Muku, and the whole YouTube page is filled with anime. Well, that might be full, maybe that pages, but there's, look at, look at images on doing image search and look for her. She's kind of a pretty Japanese girl. Okay. And so every once in a while, she has cross eyes.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Oh, yeah. Okay, I see her. Yeah. Yeah. And she's very popular. So this is not something that should be taken lightly. Hmm. Well, ultimately it's bad for humanity.
Starting point is 01:14:14 You know, you lose touch with, with, we're just, we're being sciopped in the technology. I mean, you look at the latest AI. And by the way, what you just said is. reminding me of the meeting that Hegseth had because all the counterarguments, why don't they just send an email? He didn't have to bring them all together when the old timers in the military said, yeah, you want face to face. Yeah. You want face to face. And what you just said is a reflection of these same doofuses. So they could have sent out an email or a Zoom call would have done the same thing. Well, if you look at, if you look at the popular new AI companies,
Starting point is 01:14:53 Lovesu.A.I. Friend AI is a really funny one. I couldn't clip it because it doesn't come across it. The pendant you wear around your neck and you press it to talk to your friend. But this is it. And your friend is the pendant? Well, no, your friend then text you something. You talk to your friend by pressing the pendant and then it sends you a text message. On the phone that you're carrying around incessantly and holding in your hand as you walk down.
Starting point is 01:15:23 the street but of course men and women but of course yes so you know this is this is where it's headed i mean i think in in this regard who even cares about a movie with unless we all have the same friend ai or the same loves you dot a i the gen zters you know they're all going for not just gen zed but boomers even i'm lonely oh i have a friend now i have a friend in my phone who listens My friend listens to me. It's extremely bad for humanity, but I think there's no stopping it. It's no stopping it.
Starting point is 01:16:03 So we'll have AI movies, you know, all generated characters. It's, I've given up. I mean, if I can't. Wait a minute. I said the slop is going to kill it. No, but people will love the slop. This is what I'm coming to realize. Oh, it's slop, but I love it.
Starting point is 01:16:20 We're like pigs. A.I. Slop. I love it. I'm a pig. Yeah. Well, not everybody. But a lot of people, a lot of people are going to go for that. They're just, they're AI pigs. They want more slop. Give me slop. I love it. I'm a pig. Give it to me. Then there's one other little Hollywood ditty since we're on the topic. Now also on Monday, Donald Trump up his tariff war saying the U.S. will now impose a $100,000, percent tariff on films made outside the country. It's still unclear how those tariffs would operate since movies and TV shows can be transmitted digitally without going through a port
Starting point is 01:17:02 like a car or electronics. But the announcement still is making waves in the film industry. Here's reaction from George Clooney, speaking in New York. It really happens. It would be pretty damaging to the business. Look, he's not wrong about the idea that businesses have left Los Angeles. They have in droves. What we need is, you know, The incentives the tax incentives that you get here in New York, by the way. They're building studios here because there's so much work. We need those. And by the way, if he really wants to fix it, then we should talk about a federal incentive
Starting point is 01:17:32 to keep people working in Los Angeles because there are tons of below the line people, grips and cinematographers who are losing their jobs because work is going away. Now, Hollywood always wants to. be subsidized. Give us money so we can continue to work. No. No, we got AI slop coming to everybody. Look at the pigs. They love it. I love it. You know, that we're also focused on trans people, but transhumanism is just moving forward. You know, again, the brain computer interfaces on the way. It's, you know, you'll live forever, by the way. This show will never end.
Starting point is 01:18:23 It'll just be John Adam AIs tapped into the system, creating podcasts forever. Well, we're going to stay in the Hollywood team. I do have the Netflix clips. Oh, what's... I didn't think there was any news on Netflix. What's going on on Netflix? Oh, yeah. It's scandalous.
Starting point is 01:18:39 What? Join us now to discuss. Wait, wait, wait, wait, start with Netflix versus Musk for the background. Oh, backgrounder. Elon Musk is urging parents to boycott Netflix in a meme, shared on X that Musk reacted to today. Netflix was depicted as a Trojan horse with its contents labeled transgender woke agenda, which was being wheeled into a castle marked your kids. Musk wrote in his post, quote, cancel Netflix for the health of your kids. This comes a day after
Starting point is 01:19:08 he criticized the animated show Dead End Paranormal Park for featuring transgender storylines and themes. Musk reposted a clip from the series writing, quote, this is not okay. Marketed as suitable for children aged 7 and up. The show includes a character who comes out as identifying as transgender. The character says, quote, I've never been happier. Other kids shows that feature LGBT themes include the dragon prince, Shira, and the princesses of power, and the owlhouse.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Well, I'm glad that you got clips of this because I saw the story come by and I'm just like, ah, more trans stories. I'm not interested. So clearly there's something there. Otherwise, you wouldn't have made three anals of it. Analysis. Yes. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Well, I'm just reading the clip name. Okay, well, let's play some of these analysis clips, starting with number one. Joining us now to discuss is Will Hild, Executive Director of Consumer's Research. Will, thank you so much for joining us. Great to see you again. Now, first, what do you make of Musk's accusations against Netflix? I think they're entirely accurate. This is a company that has pushed a.
Starting point is 01:20:20 a woke agenda with children for years now. Libs of TikTok posted a two or three-year-old clip from Cocoa Mellon where they have a kid cross-dressing, dancing for his two gay dads, which is obviously reignited a controversy around that show as well today. It's long overdue, and I'm glad that someone with the prominence of Elon is pushing back. And in your view, is there a risk that many parents don't know that Netflix programs their kids are watching may contain LGBT content or themes that promote transgenderism? Yeah, it's a huge risk, and it's something that Netflix has been pushing without really, you know, advertising it or making it clear that that's what they're doing with kids.
Starting point is 01:20:58 They just put it into otherwise normal shows. Like I said, Coca-Mellon, I think, had like 10 or 15 seasons with absolutely none of that in it until this past couple of years, and they've started introducing it. So that's the other issue is sometimes you'll start watching a show, and it's unclear that it contains that kind of transgender ideology or LGBTQ ideology. and then you, you know, maybe leave the room while you let your kids watch it. And suddenly they're being indoctrinated with this kind of gender ideology nonsense. Suddenly your daughter's a boy, Cocoa Mellon. Is that the name of the show? Coco Mellon?
Starting point is 01:21:33 I guess. But I think what's overlooked in this analysis is the fact that this only happened in the last couple of years. Yes. And I've noticed it too with the memes about Netflix. They've done, you know, they have a Netflix remakes. It used to the joke is always be, here's the disqualification. remake and there'd be, you know, some instead of a white girl
Starting point is 01:21:52 be some, you know, a Latino, black Latino lesbian. That would be the Disney remake. Pierceed. And now you have, this meme has been shifted to Netflix and only recently, so that somebody got into
Starting point is 01:22:08 Netflix, this is like the bald guys in the military. Somebody got into Netflix. Hire more of them. Hire more of them. Well, who was that guy? the guy from Biden's administration, the transportation department.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Wasn't he in transportation? The guy who kept stealing the suitcases with women's clothes. Oh, the suitcase guy. The nuclear guy, yeah. He needed a gig. He went to Netflix. That's possible. I mean, something happened to Netflix.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And it's only been within the last couple of years, it seems. And so now it's kind of getting pushed back on him with these. This is one of the, I think this is going to, I think what we're playing here is the beginning of a pushback. Here we go. And will we have seen increasing concern from parents over the types of content being pushed on their children from, say, books to TV shows? Now, one of the Netflix shows in question, Dead End Paranormal Park, is marketed to those
Starting point is 01:23:06 seven and up. Do you see there being a need for regulation on what does or doesn't count as being four kids? That's a great question. I'm generally loathe to have the government engage in the regulation of speech. But one of the exceptions that we all pretty much agree to is that that certainly doesn't apply when you're talking about children. This is something that we've seen in efforts to prevent children from accessing pornography in a number of different states like Florida and Virginia and Texas. And I think there is a question here of whether this is something that we want to protect children from.
Starting point is 01:23:36 It also, you know, this isn't incidental. These corporations have an agenda of pushing this stuff. Our organization, Consumers Research, went after State Farm and, sure, many years ago, because they were working with a project, called the Gender Cool initiative, and they were buying books aimed at kids as young as five, and that's not my word. It was said on the book, you know, kids five and up, that had titles like a kid's book about being transgender or a kid's book about being non-binary. And they were buying these books and donating them to public schools to get them in the hands of children explicitly. So it really, if this was just something that was accidental or a writer had slipped something in,
Starting point is 01:24:15 that'd be a little different. But it's clear that Netflix and a lot of other corporations have an agenda to target children with this kind of radical ideology that's, you know, in fact, a form of grooming in a lot of ways. Well, it didn't take me very long to figure it out under the new lens of the North Sea nexus. Cocholmellon produced by Moonbug Entertainment Limited British Children's Media Company, headquartered in London. This is an attack on the American children by the Brits. Let's turn them all at trans.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Yeah. Let's cause a ruckus. And who, let me see. Who owns this? One of a second. Let me look at the Moonbug owned by Candle Media. Oh, Blackstone. There you go.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Blackstone. Blackstone. Co-funded by former Disney executives. Okay. There you go. Oh, but wait, there's more. Candle Media owns Moonbug entertainment. Hello Sunshine and the production company of Israeli Thrill
Starting point is 01:25:14 series oh we got the Jews in there this is a this is a quagmire it's a double whammy huh yeah you always got to look at who owns this stuff and who's producing it so called brunetti asking him about cocoa melon he won't know anything about it he doesn't know anything does he not he knows more than you'd imagine he knows a lot but i don't think he knows about this this sort of thing this sort of this sinister stuff so they also have done ABC Kid TV Cocoa Mellon I guess they launched on YouTube
Starting point is 01:25:52 interestingly so Netflix okay in June 2020 Cocoa Mellon launched on Netflix uh hmm well it's an attack from the Brits that's I'm just going to call it that way
Starting point is 01:26:08 what else could it is it popular in Britain? I'm not going to argue with you because this thesis seems to be holding up Yes, let's go to the last clip. Now, following Musk's call for a boycott Netflix stock closed down 2.3%. Now, looking back, Disney took a significant hit after it was accused of doing the same thing. Do you think we could see Netflix changing its direction as a result? How likely is that?
Starting point is 01:26:31 Well, it's unclear. See, one of the problems that we've got in pushing back on corporate America is that the large asset managers like BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard, control so many of the shares of the company that they can insulate the executive class from a lot of of the bad decisions that they're making from a consumer standpoint. I think that's part of what's going on with Disney. Disney shares have been in the tank. Their five-year performance, especially when relative to the S&P 500, have been absolutely abysmal. But they actually brought back the CEO that took them in a woke turn, Bob Eiger. And I think that's because of the influence of CEOs like Larry Fink at Black Rock and others at Vanguard and State Street. And so I think that's a problem that
Starting point is 01:27:09 we really need to solve. It's one of the main things we focus on at consumers research. We need to get these asset managers out of the business of insulating executives from the consequences of their decisions. And Will, as you know, Musk is an entrepreneur who likes to take risks. How likely are we to see him launch a Netflix rival? Is there a market for that? Well, that's a great question. He's got his finger in so many pies in that way. You know, he's, you know, rocket company, a car company, but he's also apparently going to create a competitor to Wikipedia and he's active in the AI space in a very aggressive way. So it would be great if he was to put those kind of resources and his mind power behind a alternative to Netflix.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And a lot of times what the real allure of these stations, of these streaming stations is, is not so much the stuff that they make. It's the licenses that they have purchased over the years. That's certainly the case with Disney. A lot of the stuff they're making now isn't that popular. But they hold the keys to seeing a lot of the old intellectual property that people, you know, beloved around Mickey Mouse and Cinderella and all that kind of stuff. and Netflix is the same way.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Here's what they need to do. Someone needs to start the AI slop streaming station and just have AI slop all day running on it. It's everywhere. I think you're ahead of your time there with that idea. Sombrero videos, AI friends, making out with other AI friends. We're still analog, man.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Podcasting is pretty much the only technology left that is just normal for normal people. without video We're actually digital Yeah, but we're not AI No We're not even close We're analog into people's ears
Starting point is 01:28:54 You know, no distractions I'm in your head No distractions Between your ears Listen to me, donate Donate So I've made a decision And
Starting point is 01:29:08 Okay I'm glad you made a decision One, just, it's one a month, one decision. I'm no longer going to complain about people saying free speech. Yeah. Versus freedom of speech. I'm just going to call it speech. Because, you know, putting something in front of it.
Starting point is 01:29:26 That's actually a good solution. Yes, because it's all about speech. You know, the freedom of speech is not a kind of speech. It's just speech. I have the given, God given right to speech. I can speak. I can speech. and say whatever I want.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Now, obviously, if I slander someone and that's a different issue, but it's just speech. No, it's the same issue. What do you mean? It's still speech. It's just speech. It just slander. Well, yes, it is. But I can still use speech, but the government can't stop me from slandering somebody.
Starting point is 01:30:03 If I slander someone, they can get me in trouble for lying or disparaging. But speech is just speech. Right. And all this freedom of speech and free speech, it's not good. Just say speech. Speech in the United States is protected. Speech. Not free speech, not freedom of speech, just speech. Then so Jonathan Turley, who I like. I think he's great. He's a professor at Georgetown. I think if I was a student and I could take one of his courses, I think it would be dynamite. Oh, I'd take it too. You know, if you take, I have to say this to people that start going to college, and we have a few out there just, you know, don't take courses, take professors. Find out the guys who are super talented and take their courses, whatever it is. It doesn't matter. Just take that, because there's people that you're learning from not.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Yes. Yes. I recommend prof G. I don't. Neither do I. So Jonathan Turley, this showed up in my time. timeline and I was like, well, that's interesting. This is about speech and the North Sea nexus and in particular the middle management of the monarchs and the city of London. Free speech is in a
Starting point is 01:31:24 free fall in Europe. There are two anti-free speech movements that have coalesced. One is in Europe where it has laid waste of free speech, Germany, France, England. Free speech has been eviscerated and also places like Canada. The U.S. anti-free speech movement began in higher education that metastasized throughout the government. But this has all reached our shores now. The Berlin World Forum followed the remarks of Vice President Vance on free speech, and the EU was red-hot. They gathered in Berlin, and it was the most anti-free speech gathering of ever been part of. There's only two of us from the free speech community. And they are committed. And, you know, Hillary Clinton was there. And she really fueled
Starting point is 01:32:12 the anger. I mean, she, when Twitter was purchased by Elon Musk, she called on the EU to use the infamous Digital Services Act, which is one of the most anti-free speech pieces of legislation in decades. And she called upon the EU to use the DSA to force the censorship of American citizens, force people like Musk to censor. It's an extraordinary act by someone who was once a presidential candidate in the United States. But they are committed to it. And after the World Forum, they further globalized this effort. And they are threatening companies like acts with ruinous fines unless they resume censoring American citizens. This is so bad. And it's really not.
Starting point is 01:33:02 even discussed properly what's happening in the UK. It is, I mean, I've seen videos of the cop showing up wanting to talk to some woman's daughter because she viewed a post. She viewed a post. Yeah, yeah. Well, here's, I have a clip of the magistrate that's reading the Riot Act to somebody for a Facebook post. I don't have the whole clip is too long, but the guy got prison time. What? Hold on a second. I think I've seen this. Is this the guy with the, with the, with a funky wig? I need one of those wigs. They all have funky wigs in me a break. Those wigs are great. UK magistrate.
Starting point is 01:33:38 To a post questioning why you wrote, because they're over here, given life of Riley, off the tax us hardworking people earn when it could be put to better use. Come over here with no work visa, no trade to their name, and sit down and doss. And then there's more people being put out homeless each year. They get top band priority on housing. You went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority. Although you said that you had no intention of carrying out any act of violence, there can be no doubt that you were inciting others to do so. Otherwise, why post the comment?
Starting point is 01:34:30 wow and he went he got fined or went to jail it was up to seven years no yeah wow so the thing is but the the comment at the end is why i cut it off there he said he said yeah you didn't want to incite violence but you're but why else would you post yeah not your opinion your opinion's no good you know it's no you only according to this guy and he's of this class, and I think, which brings us back to your thesis, but of this class of people, the assumption is that if you post at all, you say anything, you're doing that only to incite violence, because that's the only possible reason you do it, which is illogical. Wow.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Yeah, and the discussion really isn't being held over here about what's happening. And it's not that way in the EU yet, but it kind of is. It's just, you know, they don't have... But it is in Germany, for sure. Well, Germany? Well, the reason why we don't hear coming out of Germany is because if you post about it, you go to jail. You can't even say that they're doing this.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Right. Yeah, I know. It's really pretty, it's quite interesting and it's subtle. But the fact that Hillary Clinton would be over there encouraging it, it tells you, but again, she was, you know, in the road. scholar she's not a road scholar because her husband was but she's in that we already identified her as part of the nexus yeah so it makes nothing but sense that she'd go over there and and promote this idea she's horrible person yes she is she is a horrible person yeah my goodness my
Starting point is 01:36:18 goodness wow and people are still bent out of shape that she didn't beat trump yeah well you know NPR did a poll. This was kind of an interesting little segment that I got about political violence, speaking of violence. And they polled, I guess they're listeners. Well, they have a listen to this. The federal government is shut down after Republicans and Democrats in the Senate could not agree on a funding bill.
Starting point is 01:36:49 A new NPR, PBS News, Maris Poll, is out this morning. And it found that more people would blame Republicans for a shutdown. A few minutes. We'll speak with Democratic Representative Rosa DeLauro about her party strategy. First, though, more details from that poll. It found the overwhelming majority believe children should be vaccinated before they're going to school and that it's more important to control gun violence rather than protect gun rights. NPR senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro has all the numbers. So, Domenico, let's start with a shutdown. What did the poll find? This is, I mean, so this is NPR listeners, NPR PBS. So this is the, the target demo for the Democrats.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Super liberals. Super liberals, yes. Yeah, Republicans get more of the blame 38 to 27, though. That's not close to a majority in 2019 during what was the longest government shut down in history over a month. 50% or more blamed Trump. Now, 31% would blame both parties equally. Trump and Republicans get low approval ratings, but Democrats in Congress are worse. just 25% approve of them.
Starting point is 01:37:52 That's because of Democrats, by the way. Less than half approve of members of their own party in Congress. So a lot of politics to play here as the shutdown goes on. Now, one thing that really jumps out in this survey, which you've written about this morning on NPR.org, the idea that more people believe they might have to resort to violence to fix things. I mean, how many people are we talking about? Yeah, the number is up to 30% who think that they may have to resort to violence to get the country back on the right. track. That's up 11 points from when we asked that question in April of last year.
Starting point is 01:38:25 First of all, what kind of question is that to ask? Hey, I know. Let's ask people if they want political violence. Yeah, that's a good idea. So what do you think is driving that? Largely, it's changed views among some Democrats. I mean, they've gone from just 12% saying violence might be necessary to now 28%. That's a pretty big jump. But Republicans are higher still at 31%. That's also a marginal increase from last year. Everybody wants to fight. Even a quarter of independents are saying this now. You know, it's important to remember, though, 70% of people do not feel this way.
Starting point is 01:39:00 More than three quarters say political violence is a major problem. And other polling has shown that when specific acts of violence are polled, the numbers are much lower. Still, it's pretty alarming, though, that people are increasingly feeling this way. Yeah, now, okay, let's get to free speech, something we've been talking about a lot since Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air for a week after the Trump administration. and pressure ABC and its affiliate. So how are people feeling about free speech in America? Well, they're not feeling like it's very free. Roughly eight and ten say they think that the country's gone too far in restricting speech.
Starting point is 01:39:30 That crosses political lines with almost 90 Democrats and independents saying this, as well as almost two-thirds of Republicans. Remember, conservatives were the ones who were saying for years that they felt that their speech, their free speech rights, were being curtailed on college campuses and online. So a lot of people now have gripes with what can and can't be said in the country. and that's showing up in this poll. People also believe the federal government should play a minimal role in regulating speech.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Just 15% said they think it should be a major role. It should have a major role in doing so. 44% said it should play only a minor one. Another four in ten said it should play no role at all. It does not bode well. No, that's actually not good numbers. No. Because it should be nobody.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I mean, it says right there in the first amendment they can't do anything. the government should be kept by the Constitution says no government can't do jack about speech one way or the other can't make any laws to infringe on it which is my version of doing jack yes yes yes well speech i'm just called so long way to say i'm just calling it speech well you can do what you want i'm going to do exactly what i want yeah well that's what else is new uh speaking of of speech and what wait i got it since we were kind of on the topic i'm about free speech have you have you i don't have to i'm going to just do what i want to do too i know but i'm going to contradict you no you're going to you're being a uh a scold yes i'm going to speech scold you
Starting point is 01:41:06 yeah you can do what you want thank uh this is a funny bit that ran uh it's been floating around on the brit card oh yeah yeah this is this is the old this is this is the old guy The old lady at the bus? Yeah, the old lady at the bus. It starts with an old lady at the bus, and she doesn't have a Brit card. A Brit card. Are they calling it the Brit card?
Starting point is 01:41:25 Well, I think somebody must be calling it the Brit card, but this is the digital ID is what we're talking about, the digital ID that some people want. And there's one aspect of this that's completely overlooked, and I'll bring it up at the end. Can I see your Brit card, please? I don't have one. I don't have a smartphone.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Can I get another pint, please? Sorry, sir, your brick card says you've exceeded your alcohol quota for this week. Sorry, sir, your brick card says you've already flown twice this year. We're having to restrict passengers with higher than average emissions profiles. Sorry, I'm afraid your funds have been temporarily frozen. Your recent social media post did not align with the government's narrative. Sorry, I'm afraid your brick card says you cannot purchase any more meat this week as part of our commitment to achieving net zero.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I've just logged in using my brick card and it's saying, I've already had three hours of internet today, and it's locked me out. Okay. So what's being, you know, and this is all good stuff because that's exactly what would be happening. Computer says no. Computer says no.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Yeah. But the thing that they were experimenting with in China and their digital currency, and I've run into this because I, when I went to South Africa, I used a, I got a bunch of travelers. checks in RANDs and what the Chinese are experimenting with and which I experienced with the with these with these travelers checks is expiration of funds right but that has nothing to do with the Brit card per se that that would it would if the digital currency all of a sudden you get well it does because a digital you could do this with the real currency too I mean because
Starting point is 01:43:08 they deal with it with these travelers checks but the idea is that you're given a 50 to say you got a $500 a week, and that money that goes into the, and it's easier to do with the digital currency because you can just put a tag on that 500, and that 500 expires and must be spent within 30 days. This is all part of the UBI concept. So that way, you know, you have all this money. You can't save. No.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Because they don't want you saving because you can't build up wealth. I mean, I'm in agreement with you, but you kind of jump in the gun. The EU will have their digital euro. They're going to do that. But the UK, I don't know, they're not there yet. No, I think it's something you have to bring in. The Chinese are experimenting with it to see if people go along with the program. But it stinks.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Yes, it stinks. There's only one way around it and that's Bitcoin. No, cash. Yeah. Yeah, wow. Also gold. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Yeah. Yeah, can I, can I, do you have a cheese scraper so I can, so I can tip you? Well, it's slightly impractical, but so is Bitcoin for that matter. No, Bitcoin is a lot, that is digital gold. It's a lot more practical. Yeah, you got digital in there. Yeah, but it, okay. Well, I'm not going to argue with you because you're a boomer.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Yeah, you're the one that's a big gold bug until just recently. Until, uh, 2020. Yeah. Yeah. You had, you had a, you had a, you had a brick bar. A bar. Yeah, I did. Whatever happened to that bar.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Yeah, well, whatever happened to my two ex-wives, I don't know. I was looking for my leather jackets. It's all gone. Everything. I had no history. I'm looking for my MTV jackets. There goes the bar. Bye, bye, bar.
Starting point is 01:45:00 I told you when you got the bar to paint it black and use it as a doorstop, no one would ever know. I had a, when I was working with a guy at the air pollution district who was one of the supervisors. You did tell me that, by the way. You did. I did. I can remember that part. And the reason is because of this story, this guy working at his name was,
Starting point is 01:45:20 I can almost remember his name, but he was one of the supervisors. I was over at his house, and he had all these screwball frames around his pictures. They were all like metal, black metal around all these photos and stuff. They had to hang it on the wall. And he explained to me, they weren't black metal.
Starting point is 01:45:38 They were solid gold. He was one of those gold hunters that would go around panning, He also had one of those metal detectors. He'd hit the beach, the old man with the beach. And he said he'd pick up gold watches. And all his gold, he kept it as bullion, but it was dangerous to keep it around. So he said, if anyone ever busted in the house, they saw these cheap-looking frames that were painted black. He said, no, one would ever steal these because it looked stupid.
Starting point is 01:46:07 But there was all solid gold. It was hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gold in his kitchen. I mean, it was unbelievable. It is kind of interesting. That gave me the idea to tell you about painting the bar black and using it as a doorstop. It is kind of interesting when I became a gold bug and I was buying Krugerans. I still have them. I think I gave some away, but I have the majority of them.
Starting point is 01:46:34 I remember the price that I bought them at. Do you remember the price per ounce? Around 300. No, no, no, 75. Okay, well, okay. And what is it now? 3500, higher? 38.
Starting point is 01:46:45 38. Okay. Well, I'm just saying, you know, Bitcoin today is, let me check, 120,750, 750. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, what I was going to talk about is the Pope. The Pope? The Pope.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Yeah. Is he a Catholic? He is a Catholic. Worst joke ever. But he's doing. doing weird stuff. You know, it wasn't... Chicago.
Starting point is 01:47:17 It wasn't clippable because it's just quiet, but he was at an international climate conference and had a big, like a big hunk of iceberg dripping on the stage on a little pedestal. And they asked him to bless the iceberg. And he did. And he blessed the water. And then he was asked about,
Starting point is 01:47:37 through a different circumstance about abortion. and he moved the goalpost, which I thought was really interesting. Pope Leo is ordering offering, I should say, his views on a dispute surrounding the Catholic Church and Illinois' U.S. Senator Dick Durbin. Chicago Cardinal Blaise Supage had planned to give Durbin a lifetime achievement award for his work helping immigrants. But some conservative Catholic bishops complained
Starting point is 01:48:02 because of Durbin's support for abortion rights. The Pope says there is a contradiction in this debate. It's important to look at many issues. that are related to what is the teaching of the church. Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life. So someone who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States. I don't know if that's pro-life.
Starting point is 01:48:32 So they're very complex issues. I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them, but I would ask first and foremost that there'd be greater respect for one of the The Pope said he was not familiar with all the details of the debate over the award, but says it's important to consider Durbin's overall record. Senator Durbin has declined the award. So the goalpost move here is all of a sudden he's talking in code about pro-life. Pro-life is code.
Starting point is 01:49:01 It's not, it's anti-abortion is the term. And I'm actually flummox that he didn't just say, no, I'm against abortion. But he moved it to pro-life. It's very strange. Well, I don't know what he was doing. I don't understand Durbin not taking the award. Ah, Durbin, shmurban. But the Pope, you know, we've been trying to figure out what is this Pope?
Starting point is 01:49:26 And he's looking a little more woke than I thought he would be. Oh, it was going to be woke. The last couple of popes were woke. They was picked by a bunch of woke cardinals. Yeah. Yeah, it was disappointing. Let's talk about the deal. the deal. The big Gaza peace plan, which is, I think, very interesting. And the reason I say that is because
Starting point is 01:49:49 everybody seems to like the Gaza peace plan. And I'm talking like New York Times, Newsweek, which of course makes me very suspicious. But I think President Trump did something really smart here. And he pulled the North Sea nexus into the deal by putting Tony Blair. Oh, yes. That was a good move. Warmonger. Tony Blair onto the Peace Board, the Board of Peace, which I think can only be like either you make this happen, Tony Blair, or I'm going to expose you for the warmonger that you are. I mean, it's a very interesting move.
Starting point is 01:50:30 And I think France 24 had an overview of the 20-point peace plan. Under Donald Trump's 20-point plan for peace in Gaza, The first step would be an immediate ceasefire. Hamas would then have 72 hours to free all hostages. 48 hostages remain in Gaza, at least 25 of whom are believed to be deceased. In return, Israel would free 250 Palestinian prisoners and 1,700 Gazans detained since the start of the conflict. The plan would see Israeli forces perform a gradual, staggered retreat from Gaza. Initially, the Gaza Strip would be governed by a technocratic, a political, board of peace,
Starting point is 01:51:18 made up of Palestinians and international experts, directed and presided over by U.S. President Donald Trump. The former British Prime Minister Tony Blair would also play a part in this organization. Hamas would be banned from any role in governing Gaza, while Hamas members would benefit from an amnesty if they disarm and agree to peacefully coexist with Israel. The framework includes plans to invest in Gaza and rebuild the devastated territory. As soon as a text is signed, access for humanitarian aid would be restored, overseen by bodies including the United Nations and the Red Cross. An international stabilization force with the backing of Arab states would keep the peace.
Starting point is 01:52:03 In the long term, the Palestinian Authority would be allowed to take control of governing the territory after certain reforms, and the plan leaves the door open for an eventual Palestinian state. But if Hamas rejects a plan or does not follow through, Trump says Israel would then have U.S. backing to, quote, finish the job of destroying the threat of Hamas. So besides putting Blair on the board, the peace board, he's got all the Arab countries. They're like, yeah, we like this plan. And then he got Israel to agree with the Arab countries.
Starting point is 01:52:38 What do you think the chances are of success here? Well, I think they're still talking to Iran because they're the ones that are behind the Hamas in general. They're the ones calling the shots, it seems. And if there's a deal to be made, it's got to be made there. And they just tell them to back off and, you know, step up to the plate or whatever other cliches I want to come up with. And end, end it. I think it's, I think it's, at first I think, well, you know, more talk, you know, because Trump's been jacking about this.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Oh, they release the hostages or else. Yeah. He keeps saying it. Right. And it doesn't, nothing goes on. And there's nothing and nothing and nothing. And this seems to you've gotten some, and I think you're right. It's bringing Blair in and the, in the, uh, the North Sea Nexus.
Starting point is 01:53:31 The creeps. The creeps. The creeps in. The creeps in. Yeah. The creeps in that bring the creeps in to have them, uh, uh, uh, put pressure and however they do it. It's a mystery. Meanwhile, we've got the flotilla, which is always hilarious.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Oh, yeah, this is great. Always hilarious. The Israeli Navy has intercepted a flotilla of vessels trying to get to Gaza. The boats had traveled for weeks in the Mediterranean, drawing attention to the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Israel had warned them to turn back and vowed they would not break the naval blockade. Paul Hunter has the latest from Jerusalem. Paul, what do we know? Susan, I'll say off the top we don't know an awful lot of details with certainty because what's been happening is out in the Mediterranean in the dark of night
Starting point is 01:54:18 and obviously not in front of news cameras or reporters. Because you guys are too lame to go out there. It's a dark of night. It was too dark for us to go. And though some of the various boats have been live streaming, verifying precisely what's what is complicated. So with those caveats, here's what can be said. A number of the boats. And there are, are about 40 or 50 of them in total, are now said to have been boarded by Israeli authorities. Early word was that people were being arrested and taken to a port in Israel, it seemed, without incident. But later came the suggestion from the flotilla that the Israeli Navy was using, quote,
Starting point is 01:54:52 active aggression, that water cannon was being used, and even that at least one boat in the flotilla had been rammed, though no reports of any injuries. Again, impossible to verify at this point. Bottom line, an interception is underway. boats are all part of this international flotilla, carrying opponents to the war in Gaza, some of them high-profile opponents, with aid meant for Gazans. So the aid, in truth, is merely symbolic. The point here is to try to break the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza and open a humanitarian corridor. No, this is all ego. This is just a bunch of people who are wanted, oh, I'm good, I'm great. And of course, we know who's in the flotilla. The blockade,
Starting point is 01:55:36 been in place since Hamas took control of Gaza back in 2007, but is under fire now because it's preventing access for aid into Gaza from the Mediterranean. At the same time, Israel controls land crossings while its two-year war on Hamas continues. And as any on those boats would underline, countless Gazans are an ever more desperate need for food and other aid right now. Bottom line, a tense situation in the Mediterranean, Susan. And what is Israel saying? Well, it calls the whole thing a stunt and calls those in the flotilla provocateurs looking to create some sort of incident. Israel has even said that it would allow the boats to drop their aid north of Gaza with the pledge it would then be taken into Gaza. But the boats continued toward the Gaza and coast regardless.
Starting point is 01:56:24 And there are those who suggest Israel has no legal jurisdiction in those waters, others suggesting if Israel can demonstrate that it's militarily justified, then interceptions can go forward. But even as the flotilla approached Israel made clear, it would use any means possible to stop it. And that seems to be what's happening. Tonight, interceptions and arrests, and by some accounts, no small degree of chaos. And I'll just mention one of those now detained, Greta Toonberg, the climate activist video emerging now of her being picked up by Israeli authorities on one of those boats. As Israel put it, Greta and her friends are safe and healthy. All of this, Susan, is expected to continue for the next several hours. I mean, how can we take Greta Toomburg seriously anymore?
Starting point is 01:57:06 Does anyone take her seriously? Climate activists, now Palestinian activists, on the flotilla. Break out the Discord, people. Get your Gen Z-212 in there. This is just, she's a bad op at this point. I don't know how they must... Yeah, she's definitely gone off the rails and she looks silly. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:30 It's just nuts. I guess she has a her sister is a pop singer or something No, really? Yeah, very famous pop singer. Hmm. So famous. Well, so famous you go, huh?
Starting point is 01:57:47 Huh? I have not heard of the famous pop singer. Well, oops. I gave it away. What was that? If you fall in the well, I'm in the hole.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I'm in the hole. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you. man who put the C in the cocoa melon, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the inimitable Mr. John C. de Moran. Good morning, Mr. Adam, Crady, Marcia, Sea, Bus and Refie, the airside is in the wanted. The dames and ice out there. Counting the trolls.
Starting point is 01:58:22 So I figured out, so we had a, we had a problem on the last show. I didn't know if you remember after the show, I let you go before. I'd even posted. Remember that? Do you remember? Do you remember? Huh. Do you remember? Yeah. So, and I got all kinds of complaints. I couldn't get into the troll room now most of the time. I'm like, okay. Well, Mimi says she only heard about that a half hour of the show and then it dropped dead. She couldn't pick it up at all. I said, I said, you complained to Adam? She said, I will. She never did. She did actually. Turns out that we had a DNA, classic, a DNS problem. So people could literally not reach our MP3s, our stream, the troll room. And I woke Void Zero up.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Like I pulled the handle and got him out of bed and he fixed it. So I think that's why we only see 1691 today in the troll room. People are giving up on this thing. It's like, ah, can I listen? Let them know people. All problems are fixed. Just not that far off of a typical Thursday. No, but I think there's probably a couple hundred people who are like,
Starting point is 01:59:34 ah, it didn't work, it doesn't work. You lose people that way. It happened. Yeah, it's harder to get a customer back than it is to get a new customer. Exactly. So those trolls. That's right. Those trolls are in the troll room and you can find it.
Starting point is 01:59:47 NoagendaStream.com is where you can listen live and troll around if you feel like it. They are there. A troll just bring up Israel. Lots of trolls. We go, oh, I got to post something. I got to post something. And, of course, you can listen on a modern podcast app, which is what we recommend because the modern podcast apps,
Starting point is 02:00:07 which increasingly more podcast apps are becoming modern. They're adding more and more features. It's taken, we're in our sixth year now, I think, of podcast index and all the new features. But sometimes that's just what it takes. You know, the got a note yesterday from an outfit. And they create, they do all kinds of stuff for blind people and people who are, what is the term,
Starting point is 02:00:36 less able in seeing. And they're like, we love your service so much. This really helps, you know, because they make special podcast applications for people with screen readers and so they can find stuff. You know, all these other podcast apps don't really have that capability
Starting point is 02:00:52 because they're not on, you know, the modern standards. So I'm just saying, like Podverse is specific. specifically built for, what's the term? It's a term for it. Accessibility. There you go. Accessibility.
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Starting point is 02:02:39 We've driven away all of the humans. And we want to thank the prompt jockey who brought us the art. Actually, Capital's Agenda, who did this piece for episode 1803, which he titled the Drone Wall, I'm pretty sure that he is not 100% AI. He, I mean, if you look at the no agenda words clasped in the talons of this eagle on which the British wanker is sitting backwards, that's, I don't think AI can do that, not easily at least. I'm pretty sure he, he massaged that himself.
Starting point is 02:03:19 No, he probably put the no agenda on, he had the whole piece done and put. no agenda in there by hand. You know, I wish you would tell us. And Currie and DeVorek by hand. Yeah. I wish you would tell us. That would be nice. Let us know how you did it.
Starting point is 02:03:33 You know, you should. Because there's no way that's going to happen that that's impossible at this point. We need you to list your LLM and your prompt so we know exactly what you're doing. We need to know. Because we looked at some other things for artwork. And there were some, a lot of people like the word wanker. Man, they really like wanker. That was interesting.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Yeah, I'm not quite sure what they'd like about that. Was there anything that we looked at that we thought that we thought was good? Stop playing around. Not really. No. I mean, we had enough trouble picking this piece. Yeah. Well, British girls, not quite sure what Blue Acorn was doing with the British politician holding up a
Starting point is 02:04:23 sausage or a hot dog with mustard. Yeah, there was that. That was. Other bad cartoon art. No, there really wasn't. There really wasn't it. It's hard. You know, when people are uninspired and say,
Starting point is 02:04:36 oh, don't know. I do some art. I'll just be putting it at no agenda. It's funny. Yeah, you got to have some humor to make it work. Where's the sombreros? Oh, we'll have lots of sombreros today, I'm sure. Which probably will not get picked.
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Starting point is 02:05:23 it off with Sir Donald of the fire bottles. Is he not the guy he always sends in on letterhead from the... Yeah, that's what he did in this one, too. United Federation of Planets. Yes. The Fleet Command. Yes. There it is. United Federation of Planet Starfleet Command.
Starting point is 02:05:39 He sent in a Rubbleizer donation. $3,333.33. $33. India. Hango. Mike. Standby. 33. 33. The rubbleizer out. And he wrote in handwriting on this note, gentlemen, my slide towards douchedom was stopped by a shout-out from Sir TriggerMax in the first donation segment of show 1800.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Fearing that the rubbleizer jingle might fall into disuse, I enclosed $3,333.33 so that it may be heard again and get monation. We just heard it. Also, I hereby beg admittance into the August order of... Secretary's General, with the moniker, Secretary General of Greater Idaho, signed Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles. By the way, he was in Spokane. I'm sorry. Well, he says Greater Idaho. I think he may have moved.
Starting point is 02:06:38 And do you see at the bottom? I'd never seen this. You ever see this at the bottom of his, of his stationary? So at the top, he has United Federation of Planet Starfleet Command. At the bottom, he has, because there's TMs and stuff. Yeah, and copyright. He says 1992 Paramount Pictures, All Rights Reserve, Star Trek, the next generation is a trademark of Paramount Pictures. Is he worried he's going to get sued over his station?
Starting point is 02:07:01 No, I think he bought this from Paramount. Oh, oh, I thought he actually was a member of United Starfleet Command. I thought he was real. Oh, I see. Yeah, oh, okay. I was convinced the guy's the member of the United Federation of Planets. Well, maybe he is. that you still has to get the copyright notice.
Starting point is 02:07:24 No, true. Trademark. Thank you very much. Sir Donald, soon to be Secretary General. We really appreciate it. I'll read the next two so you can read the ridiculously long one. No name from Waldo, Wisconsin came up at 34, five, six, seven, and his note is dynamite. Karma, please.
Starting point is 02:07:45 Gotta love it. You've got karma. So the Commodore semi-anonymous vegan, vegan, vegan, vegan, you know? Vegan, is a vegan? Vegan. In Mill Park, Victoria, Australia came in with 333.33. Which he calculates is $500, which gives him a secretary-generalship. It does.
Starting point is 02:08:11 $500 Australian. 3-3-33-33. Who knew? Yeah. Commodore semi-anonymous vegan here. I'd like to take advantage of the Secretary-Generalhip. General offer with my three, three, three, three, three, which would amount to about 500 Aussie dollars in honor of P.M. Elmer Fudd, I'd like to be known as Secretary General
Starting point is 02:08:32 of the, of the Wanda of, of the Wanda rabbits, the Wanda Wabits. I also, uh, it pushes me over the threshold for a night. Oh, nice. If it pleases the peerage committee, it has to be, I have to be known as Sir Akko of the land down under. Siraco, Syracco, Syracco, Syracco, Syracco, I got you, I got you. At the roundtable, like a slice or two of Hawaiian and margarita pizza, good for you. Soon to be launched by 404 pizza. Keep an eye out on Kickstarter on the first of November, which is World Vegan Day, so it's a vegan pizza. yeah also uh like some uh pornographic oh i'm sorry pomegranate kombucha which is i would recommend against
Starting point is 02:09:27 simply because i haven't heard of it already uh here or there he says there john can you cash australian checks if they sent to you no what is the fee well probably not uh i think i can try thank you for your attention to this matter. Tomidore semi-autonomous vegan. We can't even wire money from our bank, but they'll cash in an Australian check. No, we can wire money. We do
Starting point is 02:09:55 that. I can't wire money. Not online. No, no, you can't do it online. You have to go in because you can't, using Swift, you have to answer a bunch of questions. They have to look you in the eye. They have to say, do you know who you're sending this to? Wow. Let me see your ID.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Did you have to have some? somebody else sign off on it. Show me your Brit card. You got to have two or three people sign the document, then you've got to go over all the numbers. Really? It's a huge pain in the ass. And that's why, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:24 Boyd Zero, who gets paid by us to keep the servers going. Yeah. I only pay them every other month for two months work because it's pain in the ass. It takes a good half hour to put us up a wire. So I'm not going to let you do it online. But when Stablecoin comes in, and I always mention this to the bankers, I say, well, you know, this is going to change when Stablecoin comes in.
Starting point is 02:10:45 They always say the same thing. What? What's stable coin? Really? Wow. Yes, really. Well, you could always pay void zero on Bitcoin. That's another pain in the ass.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Not really. I'd have to have a wallet. Whoa, no. A wallet. Oh, God forbid. And he was also because it's not as easy to document for tax purposes. Certainly it is. Sir Adam of the Coke Empire.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Associate Executive Producership, haven't heard from them in a while, 245, 68. Greetings from the Empire. Well, the Coke Empire is undergoing some changes at the moment. This feels like, to me, like inside investment information. We are transitioning from King Charles II to Crown Prince Chase Coke. That's the Koch brothers, K-O-C-H. Young Chase will take the rain sometime in 2026 as he's busy in Silicon Valley,
Starting point is 02:11:40 spending the empire's money on angel investing into AI startups and other technologies with his disruptive technologies arm. The Empire's reaching a technology in the coming AI power needs is far and wide with our mega companies, Molex and DeepCom power, helping Oracle build out its data center infrastructure. It's sad that our King Charles II is stepping down, but soon, down soon, but besides being really the richest person on the planet Earth, if you didn't have this to split 50% with his dead brother's widow he'd be worth over a hundred billion wow anyway we're that sucks world dominational yes world domination in all industries is progressing as there's not a thing any no agenda
Starting point is 02:12:23 slave touches in their day that didn't get manufactured by the empire from toilet paper to lumber TVs to iphone screens the coke empire is all reaching i haven't donated in a while and that's my fault i'd like to say i've welcomed the new human resource into the world last november ah very good a new Coke baby, baby girl named Evelyn Gray. She definitely is the best part of my day, as she should be. I'm afraid, gentlemen, we as society are careening towards the scenes from the great film Dr. Chivago. He sent a clip. Soon we will all have residency committee comrades telling us that our homes have five bedrooms and you only need one and that four families will take the others. God knows if Gavin Newsom gets in next, we will be living out Dr. Chivago.
Starting point is 02:13:03 John, I too, listened to the Michael Savage show all those years ago when he talked about Gavin and Carmelah destroying San Francisco. Michael tried to warn us. R.I.P. Teddy. P.S. Support American manufacturing. Buy some toilet paper. Very good. Michael Savage is dead? No, he's Teddy Roosevelt.
Starting point is 02:13:26 Oh. I guess. Uh, Nathan Parker in Seattle, Washington. And he says, keep up the good work. Boom, that's a note. And 222.2.2, which gives me to the second note.
Starting point is 02:13:45 No, I'll, no, you can have the second one. Really? Yeah, you're just looking. What's long? What can I do that's not long? Yeah, don't worry about it. You can read on. Believe me, everybody's happy because it takes you forever to get through the long notes. Sean Holman. Hey, isn't that Holman? Scroll back and forth. Yeah, it's Sean Holman. He's a brother.
Starting point is 02:14:04 Yeah. In Indiana, 21911. That's the 1911 guys. I thank God bless you, brothers. St. Maria Goretty, pray for us. All right. Who's St. Maria Goretty? I think we've been through this and I forgot already. Eli, the coffee guy's up.
Starting point is 02:14:20 He's in Bensonville, Illinois. He comes in with 210-02 for today's show. This Monday was National Coffee Day, if you didn't know. And we're celebrating by releasing a new organic Ethiopian Ethiopian, what is this, Gucci, Gucci medium roast. Cheers to made up days
Starting point is 02:14:43 of celebrating random things. Visit gigawite coffee roasters.com. Use the code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated also. Can I get a health karma and an F cancer for fellow coffee lover and producer Doug? Stay caffeinated and thank you for your courage, Eli. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:15:10 St. Maria Theresa Goretti was an Italian virgin martyr of the Catholic Church and one of the youngest saints to be canonized. There's your answer. How old was she? But I had a young. And then we have a, oh, this is Irma Saso de Lima de Predo from Alsmea of the Netherlands. I actually tried to get this note into AI and have it speak this note. Two problems. One, I couldn't get a good Dutch accent out of 11 labs.
Starting point is 02:15:46 And two, it made the note five minutes long. So no. Dear John Adam, sorry for this very, it was a meetup report. But I thought better late than ever, we Anita and Irma, hosted our very first meetup in Hofdorp at the day camping site of the Highlander Mierse on September 7th.
Starting point is 02:16:00 We were blessed with a wonderful sunny day. we set up our specifically for meetups brought party tent. We hung up your faces and they sent some pictures, which are quite funny and had a great time together. We brought food, woke wine, beer, woke wine, beer and all kinds of non-alcoholic beverages. Oh, it's woke wines, no alcohol. When it was time to light the barbecue, it turned out, we invited very helpful producers. 19 of them, including some very small ones and one four-legged producer. We were even blessed with a special visit of a couple.
Starting point is 02:16:32 with their lovely, lovely human resource from South Africa. So considering this was our first host at Meetup, I think it was very successful. And then she says, since we, I received one donation. Oh, she got some donations. I've been a regular listener since October 2020, after I saw you, Adam, on one of the Jensen shows, Robert Jensen. I was hooked and wish I knew about your show before COVID. Unfortunately, I had to go through that traumatic period without you guys.
Starting point is 02:17:00 I set up a recurring donation since February 2014. My first human resource Anita supports me, but she isn't yet a listening producer. May I have, maybe I haven't hit her in the mouth hard enough, clearly. Anyway, this donation will be on her behalf. So it will be for Anita, uh,
Starting point is 02:17:20 Souso de Lima de Prado. Okay. So it's a switcheroo basically. Let me do the switcheroo bit. Okay. Switcheroo. All right. Switcheroo. it's a small amount
Starting point is 02:17:32 but this adds up to 94 80 euros I will chip in a little extra to 9630 euros because I love the combination thank you both for what you do your shows keep my amygdala relaxed even though I've donated before
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Starting point is 02:19:28 We go out. We hit people in the mouth. Yeah, I should also mention that value, clip, clip, clip collector, all of the show. It's really, it's appreciated. It's really, it's appreciated. It makes life interesting. Uh, I have some, uh, oh, there's new data. New data. Did you hear about the new data?
Starting point is 02:20:07 There's always new data. There's new data. New data from the Centers for Disease Control show more people are coming down with the common cold. The viruses currently at the highest level since 2022. Oh, what could this be? Could this be an ad or is it just information? It's new data.
Starting point is 02:20:23 School is starting. We're moving more indoors. That increases the risk of transmission. There's also other variables that are different. to predict. Changes in weather, humidity. The CDC reporting nearly a third of tests are coming back positive for rhinovirus and interovirus. Rhinovirus is the most frequent cause of the common cold and interovirus is a type of respiratory infection. There's also viral competition where last season we saw certain viruses rise. That means that we'll see other viruses decrease
Starting point is 02:20:49 and that leaves the community with an immunity debt. That means that many of us had not seen these viruses in quite some time and that increases our risk of susceptibility. While there's no vaccines for the common cold, there are ways to reduce your risk of catching or spreading it. Healthcare professionals say have good hygiene. Now notice what she says. While there's no vaccine these viruses in quite some time and that increases our risk of susceptibility. While there's no vaccines for the common cold, there are ways to reduce your risk of catching or spreading it. Healthcare professionals say have good hygiene like washing your hands, covering your mouth when you cough or sneeze, opening windows for cleaner air and staying at home
Starting point is 02:21:28 from work or school if you're sick. Experts say flu activity typically follows with illness rising at the start of October and peaking in December and February. And when it comes to the flu, health care professionals say the flu shot is the best defense against not only the flu, but also severe complications from it.
Starting point is 02:21:46 It's recommended annually to everyone over the age of six months. They went from, there's no vaccine for the cold, but you better get your shot for the flu. What's immunity debt supposed to mean? a great term. We have immunity debt because you're not vaxing enough. Don't you get it? Immunity debt? Immunity debt. Yes, immunity debt. Yeah. It's a little too long for a show title, but I like it. I don't think so. You think immunity debt is, I'll write it down. You think
Starting point is 02:22:18 so? I mean, I like Gen Z. Didn't we use Zed in the previous thing? Yeah. No, but that was just Zed. Now it's Gen Z-21212. Oh, that's that's promoting something. I don't like it. I thought this, finally someone caught on to... Kill all humans, so we can promote the AI slop. This, this trend has been bugging me for a while, and the NBC Today Show finally did a piece on it,
Starting point is 02:22:49 and I think it's kind of hilarious. We're back 739, today's consumer, all about protein. Yeah, it is surging in a... big way this year being added to all sorts of products, even your morning cup of coffee. Somebody to see his business and data correspondent. Brian Chung here, looking into the growing trend, it does seem like protein is omnipresent. Yeah, and by the way, in your coffee, they're doing cold foam and now also milk infused, at least at Starbucks. So the latest to jump on this trend announcing the releasing this line of protein powder drinks today, it's a move
Starting point is 02:23:19 that many big names in the restaurant and retail business are making in the hopes of getting more customers in the door and boosting sales. Have you been following this? The protein drinks, which is... No, I have not been following this, and this obviously sounds like a native ad for something. Well, of course it is. And it's, uh, it's, so they're adding milk, or you would say milk product to, to, to, to fizzy drinks. And it's protein. You have to have protein. And they actually have the, it's a roundabout way to get to the native ad, but here we go. From sugarless to fat free. You think we'd seen it all. Yep.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Protein never tasted this good. But the era of protein-packed products has arrived, though not everyone is on board. I just went to Walmart the other day and found out there's a protein popcorn. Why do I need protein in my popcorn? Starting today, Starbucks is jumping on the bandwagon, offering a new line of protein lattes made with boosted protein milk. But the coffee chain isn't the only big name capitalizing on the trend. Lots of protein, all under 500 calories.
Starting point is 02:24:26 Subway's new fresh fit menu also joining the movement. If you are a restaurant right now, is this kind of the hottest place to be? If you have a protein-focused menu, that is considered healthy. It not only generates sales for the restaurant. It improves the consumer perception of that restaurant. Retailers are also hoping to boost sales. Supermarket chain Kroger recently launched 80 new protein-focused products under its simple truth brand. And PepsiCo announcing it will be adding protein to some of its name brands by the end of the year, too.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Do you want in on this? On what? Dude, a protein shake, I said, let's buffing you on. The push for protein, even making an appearance on the small screen. Vali to farm. Vanilla Farmer protein. To the phone screen, with influencers and celebrities like Chloe Kardashian getting in on the craze, promoting protein products of their own. Cloud, a popcorn, my protein popcorn.
Starting point is 02:25:22 And there's proof of the push. In a recent survey, 70% of Americans said they're trying to consume more protein. Yet health experts say where you get your protein from really matters. Consumers might not be realizing that they're getting added sugars with the added protein. Whereas if you're eating eggs, meat, yogurt that's unsweetened, you're getting this protein source in a whole food form that's unprocessed. You see, we were told in the movie idiocracy that it would be electrolytes from Gatorade. but it's protein everything has no agenda now with protein everything has got to have protein in it
Starting point is 02:26:02 and there's a reason it took them a long time to get to it but here's the payoff the reason for all these products with protein all right so clearly it's the latest trend uh but could there be anything else that might be driving folks to to get more protein or try and consume more protein yeah well Craig these glp1 drugs in ozmpec is a big reason behind this too because as people eat fewer meals as a result of being on these drugs. They want it to be more efficient, trying to get as much protein as possible.
Starting point is 02:26:28 That's the reason why I think a lot of these protein bars that are protein maxing get as many grams in one-up packaged item. That's a big story here. But for everyone else, I want to point out, doctors usually say you're getting enough protein as is. So if you're going to try to change your diet, just make sure you talk to your doctor first.
Starting point is 02:26:42 So all these freaks who are on GLP-1s that can't eat anymore. If I'm going to change my diet, I have to talk to my doctor. Yes, you should. Right away. Hey, Doc, I'm going to have. There's a protein bar.
Starting point is 02:26:55 If I eat that, is that something I should be aware of, something I should concern myself with? No, not really. I will say, by the way, the co-pay there, that's 50 bucks, thanks. Everybody needs to have protein because they're not eating food anymore. So, well, I can't eat because I'm puking from the, from OZempic. So I still not, I need to force down some protein. Got to get some protein. Eat protein if you're not.
Starting point is 02:27:23 going to eat any protein we have warned since the day these things came out we said this is not a good idea this doesn't sound healthy all of the bad side effects we've been tracking and i'm afraid that we're not going to get to the erectile dysfunction because now the g lp ones are in trouble ozempic has exploded in popularity as both the diabetes and a weight loss drug but now it's at the center of a legal blowback kind of situation. More than 18... Kind of situation. What is that? Kind of situation? Reporting. It's reporting. The center of a legal blowback kind of situation. More than 1,800 lawsuits have been filed over adverse
Starting point is 02:28:09 side effects with the liability estimated at more than $2 billion. Drop in the bucket. Our legal expert, Whitney Trailer, is here to break this down. So let's talk first about the claims against OZMPIC. Yeah. Yeah. So, We went back to school, so all these 1L students that just started law school, you're going to be learning about this stuff. This is a civil tort is what we're dealing with. So this is product liability, complex civil litigation, you know, mass tort liability. And essentially, they're saying that, hey, you marketed this drug, and you downplayed, they're claiming that they downplayed the potential harm that it would cause. and it's causing these very severe side effects.
Starting point is 02:28:52 And so people are now bringing these lawsuits. There's a bunch of, if you go online, you'll see a bunch of law firms just highlighting this case in particular. And actually, it was over 1,800, but as of this morning, I think it's 2,100. How are the damages decided? Is it individually based? Do they look at the side effects? Like, how does that even get decided on?
Starting point is 02:29:14 Yeah, well, that's why we have a jury system. And so the jury actually looks at that, and they will decide. a number of different factors. So, you know, there's a number of terrible side effects. Some people are going blind. They're having intestinal issues. Get him off the air. They're digestive issues.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Just some really severe type of issues. And the jury will come back and decide and say, hey, we think this is what it's worth. And so you have to calculate both the physical damage, the emotional distress, you know, the loss of consortium. Then if people can't go to work, their lost wages, if they can't provide for their families. So it's going to be different for different folks.
Starting point is 02:29:53 So, of course, the No Agenda Show has been warning you about this, about these horrible side effects. And if you still didn't listen to us, don't worry, because Rob, the constitutional lawyer, the boots and suits, will be glad to sue these companies for you. No problemo. If you're gone blind, call Rob. Let me know.
Starting point is 02:30:16 I'll forward your email to him. But luckily, luckily, we have not one but two disclaimers now. They're now 30 seconds of disclaimers. They're starting to creep up a little bit. The disclaimer, the ads with their disclaimers, here is the competitor to Ozzympic, Zepbound. Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Stop Zepbound and call your doctor if you have severe stomach pain or a serious allergic reaction.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Severe side effects may include inflamed pancreas or gallbladder problems. Tell your doctor if you have. If you were experiencing vision changes, taking a sulfomel urea or insulin, having suicidal thoughts, if you're nursing, pregnant, plan to be, or taking birth control pills. Side effects include nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and worsened kidney problems. That doesn't sound too bad. Suicidal thoughts. How about this new one, which is Camseos, Camseos.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Camseos. Camseos is, if you have O-H-C-S, I think it is. obstructive hypertropic cardiomyopathy. I'm not sure what it is, but here's the drug disclaimer for it. ChemZios works by targeting what's causing OHCM, and it's proven to reduce obstruction in the heart four times more. Kim Zios may cause serious side effects, including heart failure that can lead to death, a risk that's increased with serious infection,
Starting point is 02:31:41 irregular heartbeat, or with certain other medicines. Do not stop, start, or change medicines or dose without telling your doctor. You must have echocardiograms before and during treatment. Seek help for new or worsening heart failure symptoms. Cam Zios is only available through a restricted program. Before taking Cam Zios, tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and current or planned pregnancy. Cam Zios, first in its class to treat symptomatic OHCM. I mean, what happened to good old anal leakage?
Starting point is 02:32:10 Now we've got death. Death. You might die. Give it a shot. You might die. Of course, it will be available at Trump RX. Our president, he's a hoot, man. Trump RX, really?
Starting point is 02:32:28 It's dot-gov, I believe. I'm pretty sure it's dot-gov. It's better than a monument. Just get a domain name, Trumprx.gov. I went to see NBC to get the lowdown on the finances of this thing. Oh, here we go. I was President Trump announcing a drug problem. pricing deal with Pfizer, which will voluntarily sell its medications for less, including
Starting point is 02:32:51 discounted drug prices for Medicaid. Pfizer is up 5% on the news. Angelica Peebles joins us now with more. There was a teaser, too, that other drug companies would have announcements to come also. That's what the president said. We haven't heard anything yet. I've been checking in. Nothing to announce there. But, you know, this is interesting, right? Of course, we've been hearing from all these companies. Yesterday, we talked about it. Everyone's been saying they've been in negotiations. But today, Pfizer, the first company, to actually strike a deal with the administration. So what's happening?
Starting point is 02:33:17 They're committing to a few things. They're going to lower prices in Medicaid. And then they're getting a three-year exemption from tariffs on the condition that they invest more in the U.S. They're also agreeing to sell some of the drugs to this new website called Trump RX, which is a DTC direct-to-consumer platform. And they're also promising to launch new drugs at parity.
Starting point is 02:33:37 So the same price here in the U.S. as other countries. Now, it sounds like a big deal, but I do want to take a little bit of a measure approach here because some of these drugs, right, the drugs that they're selling directly to consumers, you know, only one of them is actually broken out in the earnings report. So these are older drugs. They don't make a lot of money. These are not the huge blockbusters that you might be familiar with. And so even though it sounds like, yes, these prices are coming down. These are significant discounts. Pfizer's not really giving up a whole lot here. And also Medicaid already
Starting point is 02:34:07 gets the lowest prices around. So, you know, clearly this is working out for Pfizer and it gives uncertainty. You can see the stock move today, but not giving up a ton here. Hmm. Yeah, scam. Well, I have a report on the same thing, but this is from NPR. Okay. What's it called? Oh,
Starting point is 02:34:25 Trump announces deal with Pfizer. Here we go. President Trump says he's making good on his promise to lower drug prices for Americans. He announced a deal with Pfizer on Tuesday and also announced a new government website called Trump RX. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent, Sidney Lupkin, is following.
Starting point is 02:34:42 this. Hold on. What's it? They have a pharmaceuticals correspondent. Yes. Right next to the climate desk, I'm sure. Let's roll that back for a second here. Pfizer on Tuesday and also announced a new government website called Trump RX. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent, Sidney Lupkin, is following this. Hey, Sydney, so what's in this deal? The splashiest part involves Pfizer selling its drugs, such as Zell Jans for rheumatoid arthritis directly to consumers at a discount. Consumers could access the deals through a website operated by the federal government called Trump RX. Trump has talked about bringing drug prices in line with what other developed countries pay
Starting point is 02:35:22 and making those other countries pay what he calls their fair share. Here's Trump at the press conference. The United States is done subsidizing the health care of the rest of the world. It's a big thing. I can't tell you how big this is. The deal also includes discounts for Medicaid. and a pledge from Pfizer to sell new drugs at the same price in the U.S. as in other developed countries. Trump says similar deals with other drug makers are in the works.
Starting point is 02:35:47 How did President Trump get the drug makers to come to the table? Yeah, it started with an executive order back in May on what the president calls most favored nation drug pricing. That would link U.S. prices to those elsewhere. Over the summer, he up the ante with letters to 17 drug makers that gave them 60 days to come up with plans and then came closed-door negotiations. During the press conference, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., told reporters that negotiations went late into the night.
Starting point is 02:36:13 Pfizer CEO Albert Borla was at the press conference, too, by the way. He said, this deal came with a three-year grace period from certain tariffs, and he added that tariffs were the, quote, most powerful tool to motivate behaviors. So it's clear the threat of them played a role here, though the many details of the deal aren't public. Yeah, and there's still no website, which is very bad form. No, it's supposed to be in December.
Starting point is 02:36:36 They already said that. From, here's this, apparently Cuban, who owns his own drug purchasing website, Cost Plus Drugs, says, I've been told it's just a listing site and won't actually sell anything. So they'll just have links to other online. That would make sense. Yeah. It's a marketing website. It's a landing page.
Starting point is 02:37:04 Yeah. A landing page. Okay. This is Consolidated. There's part two to this, by the way. But what would this mean for consumers then? You know, a lot of them probably won't notice a difference. In Medicaid, for instance, beneficiaries already pay very little or nothing for drugs.
Starting point is 02:37:20 And it's not yet clear how much money the Medicaid part of the deal would save taxpayers. As for Trump RX, direct-to-consumer prices mean that consumers are not using their health insurance. So while on average, prices may drop 50% through Trump RX, that's still 50% off a big number, and it still might be unaffordable. Insurance co-pays could be cheaper. But if someone needs a drug that isn't covered by insurance and it's offered on Trump RX, it might be an option. All right.
Starting point is 02:37:47 So when is TrumpRX supposed to get going? Yeah, the TrumpRX.gov website is supposed to launch in early 2026, and the new Medicaid prices are supposed to take effect around the same time. As for the promise of launching new drugs at the same price in the U.S. as abroad, that's an ongoing process. In fact, some other companies have already said they'll do that. Bristol-Myers Squibb, for instance, says its new schizophrenia drug will be sold at the same price in the UK as it is here. But that won't save American patients any money.
Starting point is 02:38:17 A new schizophrenia drug. A new schizophrenic drug is going to be sold cheaper. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Wow. New schizophrenic drug for all the schizophrenics. They work that one in. check is in the middle girl good job okay what do we have
Starting point is 02:38:38 well i got a couple of things here there's a couple of for example the man on the street was done by ntd asking people just randomly on uh one of the malls whether they think trump's going to run for a third term i thought this was amusing you you only want this in there because of the five hundred dollar bet you have with your son Am I right? No, I don't want it in there for that reason. I already got that bet. That's done. Yeah, okay. You want you, you want to throw it. Would you support President Trump running for a third term? ND. Sam Wong was out on the national mall in D.C. to hear from the people. President Trump's been talking about potentially
Starting point is 02:39:15 running for a third term. Perhaps the joke. Perhaps not. Would you like to see that happen? Yes. I would like you, but it's not going to happen. That's not right. And, you know, he does say and do some things that even we don't agree, but I don't think that will happen. You say you would like to see that happen? I would like it. Yes, he deserves to be in there because he's moving everything forward. And that's great.
Starting point is 02:39:36 Sure, yeah. But I don't think he can. Is it the 22nd Amendment? I'm not 100% sure. I don't even want to comment. I certainly think he will. By the time it comes around, it'll be legal to do so.
Starting point is 02:39:49 And would you be behind that? Hell no. You know, pretty soon it'll only be Republicans that can own guns, too. President Trump has been talking about potentially writing for a third, term. Would you be on board with that? Yeah. I'm not a huge political person, but, you know, I'm very turned off by the Democrats and just liberals and just all of that. I don't think anybody should
Starting point is 02:40:09 be up beyond two terms. That's been a tradition in our country, and I think it's been pretty well established. How about Vance 2028? What do you think? Ah! No. No, please no. I don't have that many years, I don't have that many years left on this planet. I don't want, I don't want this to go down like this. I see that, I see that happening. Yeah. Would you be supporting him? Yes. Probably a continuation of what Trump has started. Just, you know, finishing it out and carrying it through. You know, I really, to be honest, don't know exactly what he's doing right now. I haven't really, like, followed his speeches and interviews. So if it's not Trump, then for sure, Vance. You know, I won't close off to it.
Starting point is 02:40:54 I liked what he said a lot more before the election than when he joined the ticket. So you're open-minded? I try to be. How about Vans 2028? Yeah. That would be a good call. There's a couple other guys that could be in the running as well. We'll have to wait and see because we really don't know much about Vance right now.
Starting point is 02:41:12 But if you ever watch, did you ever watch his movie that he made about, well, he didn't make it, but they made it about his life and where he came from. him to where he is today. It was only God that did that. But I would definitely vote for him in 28. Brother. Well, we could have done without that. Goodness, gracious.
Starting point is 02:41:35 Man on the street. By the way, here's another clip that you'll be burked about. Make it funny. Well, this is Crowder. Oh. Who puts himself back on the pedestal, and he's complaining about, hey, you know, he gets threatened too.
Starting point is 02:41:52 Oh. And you listen to this, this, this what, but I didn't get any of the Tim Poole once, because Tim Poole's been saying the same thing. But Crowder's stuff is like a little out there. Crowder said he pulled back from these campus events due to security issues with those in the audience that opposed him turning violent. When I did change my mind and started in 2016, the idea was, hey, calling the left on their bluff civil dialogue with anyone to the tune of billions of plays.
Starting point is 02:42:18 And hundreds of hours. And it got increasingly violent. And what I didn't tell people, I told people out there, go do this on your own campus, have these conversations. I advocated for it. And Charlie took it to another level. It was unbelievable at it. I didn't tell people about the threats because I didn't want copycats. I didn't tell them about terrorists from Yemen through Sweden showing up in East Grand Rapids. I didn't tell them about concrete milkshakes. I didn't tell them about my tires getting slashed about people trying to fire bomb my car. Turning Point's national tour continues with some of the biggest conservative names, including Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, and Glenn Beck.
Starting point is 02:42:53 We have a- Yemen terrorist coming through Sweden. We have a term for a guy like this in the old country. We call it like a picker. Say it with me now. Like and picker. It means what? Means he's someone who picks off the remains of dead bodies. He's just trying to make.
Starting point is 02:43:12 a name for himself off of Charlie Kirk's assassination. I can't see it any other way. Oh, look at me. I'm so brave. Ugh. Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that because I find the thing peculiar. What is a concrete milkshake? Whether it's a milkshake that has concreted and they throw it at you.
Starting point is 02:43:33 So it's like basically like a brick. Yeah. Well, they just throw a brick at you. Yeah, this is just like a lot of work. This is disappointing. I saw him walking there with all this security guys. Oh, yeah, I'm a big man. I'm going on campus.
Starting point is 02:43:47 Look at me. I'm so brave. I was doing it before Charlie. That's basically what he said. Yeah, that's what he spent. That was the theme there. Yeah. Well, now you've just bummed me out.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Good. Good. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, oh, no agenda in the morning. Well, and since you. you played that clip, I'm going to force you to read all of the donations that came in $50 and above for the people who love us and get value from this program.
Starting point is 02:44:21 If they're still listening after that. You overlook the good news part of that. You'll overlook the good news part of that. There was no good news. Yeah, you gave us a new Dutch term. Like a picker. Like a picker. Am I pronouncing it correctly?
Starting point is 02:44:35 Yeah, pretty good. Like a picker. Like a picker. Yeah. So like is a dead body. Picker is picking. you know, taking stuff from it, like a picker. We need to use this, like a picker.
Starting point is 02:44:47 Interesting. Yes. Hey, thank our producers here, John. Oh, and starting with Amy Harmon in Nashville, North Carolina came in 17760, and she has this, and she designates this as a Charlie Kirk Freedom of Speech donation. Ooh, I like that. Heidi Quant in Centerville, Virginia, 1415, and she's got a birthday call out and a note. Bash in Texas in Flower Mound, 138, and this is a Who Shot JR donation.
Starting point is 02:45:18 Yeah, there's two. Two people. Two people. Love it. Eric Hokel and Mulrose, Deutschland, 104. That's good. He's up there. The top of the list now. Baron Lattuckin in Houston, Texas, 100. Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of Luna, lover of America lover of boobs, and conquer North Carolina, 808. Dame Dana Carroll in Loughlin, Nevada, 7227. Greg Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 66, oh, I'm sorry, 65-02, the chip donation. We get one of those every other show. Dame Nancy of the Confused 5721.
Starting point is 02:45:56 Donating is good for the show and your soul, she writes. That's true. Fact. Fact. Dame Tracy and Sir Kane Break in. St. George, Louisiana, 5510, double nickels on the dime. Surprised, night of astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma, 544. John Bassano and Madison, Alabama, 5272.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Steven Veneman, Veneman, Veneman in Genoa, Illinois, 5271. And now we have $50 donors. We have a makeup. There's a lot of them today compared to this last show, which is four, I believe. Bobby Boe Bo. I'm sorry, Bobby Bo in Bluegrass, Iowa. These are all 50s. Leith Thompson in Meridian, Idaho. Nathan Knoll in Nettarland, Texas. Netherland. Joshua. Neederland. You've been there?
Starting point is 02:46:52 I know where it is. It's Neaterland? Neaterland. Oh, it's Neaterland. Yes, Neaterland. Well, it says Neterland. I know, but it's really Neaterland. Hmm. You need to have two Ease instead of one. Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Terrence Clark in Jacksonville Beach, Florida, Tony Lang and Castle Pines, Colorado. Scott McCarty in Lodi, Sean Pendergast in Vista, California.
Starting point is 02:47:20 For Foster Birch in New York City, Daniel LaBoe in Bath, Michigan, Matt Frazy in St. John's, Florida, and Sir Luke Raynor, the East. East of London and the Southwest, the UK, 50. Linda Walker in Roseburg, Oregon, $50. That's a Bitcoin donation. No, it's not. Oh, what's the green? Stripe, Stripe. Oh, Stripe.
Starting point is 02:47:48 It's a Stripe donation. Yeah. Our buddy over here in San Francisco, Iichi Kitagawa. And last on the list, Sir Michael, in Snohomish, Washington. and people that helped us do show, 1804. That's right, 1804, 18th anniversary coming up on the 26th of October. It's been quite the ride. Thank you all very much.
Starting point is 02:48:12 And again, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for this episode. And you can always support us at any time, anytime you feel like it, whenever you're hearing the show, even months from now, like, I got some value. Let me send it back to them. No agenda donations.com set up a recurring donation today. You'll see we actually have a layaway night. coming up, and that night we'll get a ring, of course, and all of the accoutrements that go with it. Any amount, any frequency, any time you feel like it, noagendid donations.com.
Starting point is 02:48:40 It's a birthday, birthday. On no birthday. A real quick one. We only have one on the list. It doesn't happen often, but Heidi Quant, which is Stephen Milling, a very happy birthday. He celebrates his 40th today, and we celebrate with him. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And not one.
Starting point is 02:49:00 Two, Secretaries General with a jingle that says it wrong, but here we go. All hail to the Secretary's Generals, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary's Generals on the No Agenda Show. You heard him earlier, Sir Donald the Fire Bottles came in with a rubbleizer donation, and of course automatically becomes a Secretary General. He will henceforth be known as the Secretary of the Secretary. General of Greater Idaho and Sir Occo, it will now be known as the Secretary General of the Wanda Wabits, the Wand of Wobits, I should say. Secretary Generals, go to Noagena Rings.com,
Starting point is 02:49:42 let us know where to set your certificate because it is official. You are now a Secretary General. Congratulations. All hail to the Secretary Generals, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary Generals. On the No Agenda Show. And in today's segment, we also have three nights to bring up on stage, including Peter Goodall, who says, John Adam, I'm writing to let you know that I've been listening since 2013. I was an irregular donor, then decided to set a small bimonthly donation of $20.20.
Starting point is 02:50:20 In the year 2020. In the year 2020. I made one small modification to it in 2022 and basically forgot about it since then. well, I just totaled up, and it has made me long overdue for a knighthood after amassing the priceless sum of $2,211. Thank you very much. I would like to be knighted, Sir Slow and Steady, as in Slow and Steady wins the race. If possible, could I also get an associate producer credit for this current episode? I have to ask John.
Starting point is 02:50:51 I think on a request like that, I think especially with the kind of overpaid for the knighthood, sure, why not? You consider it done. He says, I would like to add it to my LinkedIn profile. So you are good to go and let us bring out the swords. Here's mine. I'm always at the ready with my sword. Here you go. A nice blade.
Starting point is 02:51:09 He brings out Peter Johnson. You're here as well. Peter Goodall, step up, sir. And Commodore semi-anonymous vegan. All of you support the No Agenda Show in excess in many cases of $1,000 or more. Therefore, I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate all of you as night. Knight Peter of Castleberry, Sir Aco of the land down under, and sir slow and steady. Gentlemen, for you, we have hookers and blow, rent boys, and chardonnay, a slice or two of Hawaiian and margarita pizza, soon to be launched by 4.4 pizza and pomegranate kombucha.
Starting point is 02:51:44 Along with that, we've got bongit, it, and bourbon, sparkling cider, and escorts, ginger, et al and gerbils, breastmilk, and pavill, and as always, at the roundtable, the mutton, and the me. And you can head over to noagendarings.com, and let us know what ring size you have. There's a little guide there and shows you how to do it. And along with that, we will send you some wax to use with your signet ring to seal your important correspondence. And, of course, as always, a signed certificate of authenticity. Welcome to you three to the Knights and the Dames of the No Agenda Roundtable. And there's a party going on as we speak.
Starting point is 02:52:22 Actually, it's about to kick off the Northern Wake Pumpkin Spice Showdown. in Raleigh, North Carolina. That'll be at 6 o'clock at Hoppy endings. Go and check them out. On Saturday, the tiny amygdala of Anchorage. They will be uniting in Anchorage, Alaska at 2 o'clock at Campbell Park. Go and send us a meetup report. You haven't heard from Anchorage in quite a while.
Starting point is 02:52:43 I'd love to get a meter of report and include your server if you can. Coming up in the month of October on the 9th, Parker, Colorado, Johnson City, Texas on the 10th. It's right down the road about 45 minutes away. but Fredericksburg, Texas will be on the 11th, and Tina the Keeper has confirmed she will be there as well at J-6 or Jenny's place. Also on the 11th, Garden City, Idaho, the 16th, Charlotte, North Carolina, Coleyville, Texas, Collieville, Texas on the 18th, Fort Wayne, Indiana. On the 18th, Columbus, Ohio as well,
Starting point is 02:53:13 the 19th, Lansing, Michigan, Los Altos, California, the 25th, the 26th, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, the 31st Leiden in Zautholon, the Netherlands. And on the 15th of November, is this another? one that you're going to attend, John, in Albany, California? At the Mallard Club? That sounds like it. John will be there.
Starting point is 02:53:33 Those are the no agenda meetups which you can find at noagenda meetups.com. Remember, when you go to a no agenda meetup, you will make connections that will give you lifelong protection. These people will be your first responders in an emergency. Noagenda meetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy. You want to be where you won't be where you won't be.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Drink it all hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Yeah, baby. It's like a party. Every single time, it's just like a party. And before we get to John's tip of the day and our outstanding end-of-show mixes,
Starting point is 02:54:21 we like to select our ISOs here for the end-of-show. show. I have three. John has two. I'm sure they AI'd, so I'll just do my real people ISOs first. Is this true? So I thought was pretty good. Kind of like that one. We have this one. I mean, you can't make this up, okay?
Starting point is 02:54:40 And this one, I thought, was just funny. Brought to you by Pfizer. Well, I like the Alex Jones one of the three. Okay. Now, I have I don't know how this is AI or not, but this is the W-AWD. What are we doing?
Starting point is 02:54:58 No, it doesn't sound like AI. What are we doing? Because it's not. No. And this one here could be just a real person. This is the WOWE clip. Wowy Faulty.
Starting point is 02:55:10 What a fabulous show. No, that's AI. That is just so AI. What? What a fabulous show. What is he even saying, Waui Faulti? Wally Faulti.
Starting point is 02:55:19 What a fabulous show. Who's Faulti? What I put in there was wowie and then basically a random number of letters, just gibberish, to see what it would say. Yeah, and I don't like it. I mean, you can't make this up, okay? I think that's the one we're going to have to go with. Okay, we do.
Starting point is 02:55:37 All right. Hey, everybody, it's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes, Adam. Well, this is a screwball tip. This is something I didn't think I'd ever do, but I'm going to do it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:55:54 I'm going to recommend that people go watch a PBS show. What? And you can get it over on Amazon Prime. They have it over there, and it's on the PBS. You can dig it up. But it is a terrific show that everyone who listens to No Agenda should watch. This is, it's a recent American experience called The Hard Hat Riots. Huh.
Starting point is 02:56:17 And it's about the Hard Hat riots in New York in the late 60s, early 70s. Huh. which is a history, a lot of it, I didn't, I was completely unaware of it was, it was, it was, a lot of the stories were suppressed that were not in the media, but it's the genesis during the Nixon administration, the genesis of the working class moving toward the Republican Party, how it all came about, how the Democrats had switched over to, to just pretty much supporting the banker class, right in that moment when the CIA came in during the Russ Baker in that Russ Baker book and pointed out the fact the CIA was, was behind the Watergate scandal, which got Nixon kicked out, made him quit, and so they got back on track. What is this called again? It's called the Hard Hat Riots. It's one of the best histories I've seen. I know part of it. I was there pretty much. But I don't, I'm watching this going, this is all news to me. It's fascinating. Huh. Is that like the OG people sick day? Is that kind of what that is?
Starting point is 02:57:20 No, not at all, actually. It was not about any. It's just, it's an unimaginably good documentary on the American experience. Considering it's from PBS and you're promoting it, it really must be a dozy. It's a dozy. It's a killer. I love it. There it is, everybody. John's Tip of the Day. Find them all
Starting point is 02:57:40 at tip of the day.com. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. And there you go. That is our show for today. I saw Hakeem Jeffries do a press conference, so more sombrero will be forthcoming by this evening, I'm sure. No doubt about it. Retardo.
Starting point is 02:58:07 I was thinking about Mucho Retardo is a show title. Mucho Retardo is a good show title. It's not bad. It's a decent idea. Hey, coming up next on the No Agenda Stream, It's Nick the Rat from the sewers of New York City. This is his 508th episode. It's titled Dill Slop.
Starting point is 02:58:25 So you got to wonder what that's about. So stay tuned for it on your modern podcast app. Well, if you're listening to the stream right now, directly at noagendastream.com. End of show mixes. Agent Looper is back with some thoughts and prayers. And Jeffrey Crocker with a great, a great parody. It's been a while.
Starting point is 02:58:43 The jury is still out, whether it's AI or if he really can sing like that. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in picturesque Fredericksburg, where it is October Fest, everybody. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain. I'm John C. DeVorek. We'll talk to you on Sunday with another one, two, three hours of media deconstruction. Until then, remember us at no agenda donations.com. Adios, mophos. A hooey, hooey, hooey, and such.
Starting point is 02:59:17 around bitches. Bitches. Gather around. Gather around. Bitches. Gather around. Join hands and bow our head. Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers. Biches. I posted a video offering thoughts and prayers. I met her in a school in the north of France where she taught me to act and wear tight her pants to see my bone B-O-N-A bone She walked up to me and she asked me to dance She asked me my name and in a high-pitched voice I said McCrown
Starting point is 03:00:17 You are McCroney My, my, my Macrona Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy But when she squeezed me tight I knew that she'd be Mrs. McCroney My mama,
Starting point is 03:00:40 McCrown Well, I'm not done But I can't understand Why she walked like a woman But talk like a man, Richard McCroney Ma'amah, Macrona My, ma, ma, ma'amacrona She'd pick me up and sat me on her knee.
Starting point is 03:01:12 She picked me up and sat me on her knee And said, little boy, won't you come home with me? Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy, but when I looked in her eyes, I asked her head to make Mrs. McCrude. My, my, ma'amma, Macroan. My, ma'amma, McCroney. Bridget McCrude.
Starting point is 03:01:38 My, ma'amma, Macroan. My, ma'amma, Macroan. The best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo. Devorac.org. Slash and A. I mean, you can't make this up, okay?

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