No Agenda - 1808 - "Bad Fad"

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the same can. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, October 16th, 2025. This is your award-winning, give-on-ation media assassination episode 1808. This is no agenda. Reporting from the front lines, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 00:00:22 And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying the same thing. Recycling is a scam. I'm John C. DeVorek. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill In the morning Well, yeah, hello, 2000 Recycling's a scam. We've known this for 20 years, longer.

Starting point is 00:00:41 Well, not so much in California. Oh, no, you guys are all in still. Obviously. I'm looking at garbage guys go by today on Thursday. And they're replacing all the green cans for recycling, but for green, you know, trimmings and stuff you put in the green can. Yes.

Starting point is 00:00:59 So they're taking a green can and replacing it with exactly the same green can. Well, that seems like your tax dollars at work. Well, it's the garbage dollars at work. All up and down the street, it's the exact same can. They're taking the old ones, which are fairly new anyway, and they're replacing it with the new one. It's the same can. But that's what I'm saying. Now, isn't that city who does that for you?

Starting point is 00:01:27 Do you pay your garbage guys separately? The garbage guys are separate. Oh, really? We don't have cities to garbage. No, that's it's who I was going to put them aside and have a little chat with them. I was going to go down there, but, you know, we're doing the show prevenue. I was. I was going to ask what the hell is going to?

Starting point is 00:01:42 What are you doing here? But then I got high. Why are you changing, swapping out a perfectly good can with another exactly the same can? Because that way will be reflected on your bill at the end of the month. That's obvious. Or at the end of the quarter. What do you pay for garbage? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:01:59 You don't know. No, Mimi pays it. Oh. Yeah, I think we pay, I think we pay 30 bucks a month. Sounds similar. Yeah. Good guys, though, because if I forget to put the garbage can out, I can just text them. You're like, ah, all right, pick it up later.

Starting point is 00:02:18 I'll come back later. Pick it up on my way home. Or if I say, you know, I got some junk here. Yeah, okay. But you want me to pick it up. That's the kind of garbage guys I like. Oh, our garbage guys do the same thing, but I'm just not getting where they keep swapping out perfectly good cans for the exact same can.

Starting point is 00:02:36 Well, it could be some kind of environmental regulation they have to adhere to. It's the same can. I got you. It's the same can you're irked. I got it. Well, I think you should have taken time. I would gladly start the show later just to hear you argued with the garbage guys replacing the old cans with new. Cairns.

Starting point is 00:02:56 And maybe I'll give them a call. You should feel free, that license should always be free and open to you to do that. You just let me know. So I went to the front lines yesterday. The front line being Austin, Texas. Oh, you went to Austin? Why? You get your hair done again?

Starting point is 00:03:15 Yes, to get my hair done. But I also had coffee with the former New York banker, who I have not spoken to in quite a while. And I've got some updates. Did you ask him how his Goldman Sachs is doing? Oh, crap. I forgot about that. Yeah. When's Goldman going belly up?

Starting point is 00:03:37 Oh, man, I can't believe I forgot that. Years ago. He's still waiting. Yeah. Well, did you short Goldman? No. I'm glad you didn't. So, you know, these days he's all into AI investments.

Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah, I'm looking at different investments. And in particular, he's looking at financial AI investments. And I don't know if he actually invests in anything. He kind of looks like a hippie these days. He's kind of, you know, he's got Jesus sandals on. He's unshaven. His hair's long in the back. Yeah, it sounds like an investor to me.

Starting point is 00:04:13 Exactly. It's like one of those. I'm a cool investor, you see. I'm a cool guy. And so he's talking. He's like talking about it. how this model understands how the fold protein work. I'm like, oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:04:30 He wants some more coffee. But then he says, you know, these guys, most of them really don't have anything, but they have one thing. They have a buzzword. And, of course, I said, what's the buzzword? Can you guess what the buzzword is? Quantum. Yes, you nailed it.

Starting point is 00:04:51 You nailed it. Quantum. He says, but they're not using quantum computers. They're doing quantum calculations with supercomputers. Like, okay. Yeah, okay. Right, right, right. Yeah, that makes sense.

Starting point is 00:05:06 But then, and this kind of folds into the talk with my hair lady. He, so he is, let's see if I can say this about revealing his identity. He does a lot for nonprofits and art stuff. Let's leave it at art stuff. And so he's helping one of these arch stuff things with their finances, I think a secretary or something. And because he's, yes, he's a Democrat, but he's, you know, he's not an idiot, obviously. He still wants to talk to me. I'm sure he's getting as much information from me as I am from him.

Starting point is 00:05:45 And he says that these people were all in a tizzy because they were trying to schedule their ice training. what is that supposed to mean literally training for what to do when ice comes to take away their brown people i guess take away the paintings no but think about it this is how insane it's gotten in austin they're training at art institutions just in case ice comes to the ludicrous part to take away their brown people yeah but but and so but this was only accentuated. So I'm sitting there with my hair lady. You know, and we're catching up. I love listening to her. No, she's the one telling you about this?

Starting point is 00:06:32 No, no. That was the former New York banker who told me about the ice training. Yeah, okay, so you're with the hair lady now. Yeah, so I mean, I'm with the hair lady. And, you know, we talk, we do our usual, like, TV shows. What are you watching? You know, chit-chatting about the dogs and stuff. I say,

Starting point is 00:06:48 and she's from Syrian descent. I say, how about this? She's, shh, shh. So what's wrong? No, we can't talk politics. It's a politics. Have you seen what's happening? This is your homeland.

Starting point is 00:07:01 There's like, there's shifts major. I got to, got pulled aside the other day. So what happened? Well, you know, it was, to be honest, I also said that I had watched the Charlie Kirk Memorial. And I got pulled aside and they said, you know, because she rents a chair. Yeah, that's what you do. Yeah. She says, well, you know, we're not so sure that you're right for us because we have a feeling you're turning MAGA.

Starting point is 00:07:31 I mean, this is... You're turning MAGA. You're turning MAGA. So get out. I mean, you combine that. Get away from our generalized acceptance of all people. Because we're so liberal. We're so progressive.

Starting point is 00:07:48 We accept everybody. So get out. Yeah. But you see, this is the problem is because, of. Of course, we're laughing about this and we're calling them nuts and they're calling us nuts. And I think we're prime now. We're prime in the United States in one of these cities, not Austin, probably Chicago. We're prime for some kind of incident to take place that's going to set a lot of people off and it's going to be messy.

Starting point is 00:08:13 If you listen to the insane pushback because people have been so propagandized about ICE, Well, it's just putting six-year-olds in zip ties, arresting people naked, kidnapping, kidnapping, kidnap. But I'm hearing this from all over my liberal, my liberal friend'scape. Yeah, that's what they've been told. They have been told this, and they completely believe it based upon TikTok videos and Instagram reels and a guest stuff on X. I don't know. I haven't been on blue sky in a while. Nobody knows. Yeah, but it's, you're laughing, but it's, it's.

Starting point is 00:08:50 I am laughing, and I will continue to laugh. It's getting out of hand. Tonight, tension is rising as the Trump administration's sweeping immigration crackdown expands. In the last 24 hours, federal agents clashing with residents in Chicago. As some protesters threw objects, federal agents deported tear gas on crowds, angry about the latest arrest that ended with a crash in their neighborhood. Illinois' governor, who's repeatedly said he did not ask for federal help, accusing immigration agents of using strong-armed tactics.

Starting point is 00:09:21 They're the ones who are tossing tear gas when people are peacefully protesting. They need to back off. Homeland security officials say it all began with agents chasing an undocumented migrant, who they say had rammed a Border Patrol vehicle. Agents then crashing into the vehicle to stop it. New video shows that the chase then spilling over into a Walgreens, where 19-year-old Warren King says he was shopping. He says when he tried to leave the store, he was tackled.

Starting point is 00:09:47 He's a citizen! He's a citizen! You don't know what's going on, so get the fuck back. He was just saying, why are you running? I'm telling him I'm a U.S. citizen. I'm here. I'm legal. I'm born here. So they didn't try to hear none of that, though. Community leaders today blasting federal agents.

Starting point is 00:10:04 Not only undocumented people are being targeted, but also people of color are being racially profiled by these unjust actions. And today, the Chicago woman who was shot by federal agents after allegedly ramming her car into their vehicle, today pleading not guilty to assault. Mar-Mar Martinez seen in this video in the moments leading up to that alleged ramming. Prosecutors say she was part of a convoy

Starting point is 00:10:26 tailing those agents. David, in a sign of increasing tensions, LA officials are declaring a state of emergency, saying they will offer undocumented migrants' financial and legal support as this deportation campaign expands. Now, I got to hand it to, I mean, for all

Starting point is 00:10:42 their beliefs, they are completely all in and, like, ICE are not seas. Ice are, they're criminal themselves. There's no background checks. These people are crooks. They're no good. They take great, they take great pleasure in hunting people down. And so what are they doing? They're using their cars. They're using all kinds of things to get in the way of what ICE is doing. And it's, it's going to turn ugly. It's so, you know, have we not been preconditioned for this with that stupid movie Civil War? I mean, it seems like all of this is just happening. And now it's only in select cities near you, but, man, this is a Tinder box.

Starting point is 00:11:22 And now we're going to have that No Kings after it didn't work last time. I'm going to try No Kings again on, what is it, Saturday? Yeah, this coming Saturday. Yeah. I tuned into their... What happened to Blackout, by the way? Well, no, Blackout. It was supposed to shut the country down.

Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, no. Wasn't there supposed to be something else coming up to that it was supposed to shut the country down? They crapped out? No, I think No Kings is the... It's supposed to be the big one. And I tuned into their live webcast. They got a pastor. They got all kinds of very big organizations now behind this.

Starting point is 00:11:58 Democracy Forward. They got a lot of money. One of the Walmart. Yes. The airs that's putting a lot of money behind this. People should take note. Yeah. So I don't know.

Starting point is 00:12:10 I don't feel good about it. My spidey sense is telling me no good. And then, of course, we have the worst. the worst Democrat ever, the worst one, is John Federman. I'm the only Democrat of my family. I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania, and I grew up, and I know and I love people that voted for President Trump. But they are not fascists. They're not Nazis.

Starting point is 00:12:35 They're not trying to destroy the Constitution and those things. And that's part of another thing. I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists. What? I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler in those things. And now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue. We're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things like Charlie Kirk.

Starting point is 00:13:03 For me, all I could say is, is like, let people grieve, give people the space. I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that plastic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views. like my God, you know, he's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet. And now people have forgotten. President Trump was in my state was shot in the head. And if that would have, could you imagine where our nation would be if he was hit in the same way with Kirk? We really got to turn the temperature down. And we can agree to disagree on these kinds of things. But right now, shutting down the government, I just can't take it that.

Starting point is 00:13:44 By the way, he wasn't eating Toritos. That was his stupid hoodie roaming up against the microphone. But, wow, he needs a bodyguard. He's got to be careful with that crazy talk. I'm so... He's just atypical Democrat.

Starting point is 00:14:03 I'm so amazed. Well, that's what an old Democrat used to be. I'm so amazed by this guy. You know, we thought he was a moron. And all of his speech issues are all gone. and, you know, it's like, I... Yeah, some people recover from strokes properly. Yeah, he did.

Starting point is 00:14:19 It's not, it's unusual, but it does happen more than often. But it's kind of telling what when he had the stroke and he talked like an idiot. It's like, oh, yeah, he's our guy. Well, that's when the Democrats liked him. Now that he's normal, they don't like him so much. That's my point. That's my point. So, yeah, this is interesting.

Starting point is 00:14:40 We'll see. It's just, you know, false flags. It'd be easy to kick something off. What's a few people to take down the orange, man, because, you know, you're turning MAGA. Well, I feel bad about your hairdresser. Oh, me too. She loves that place.

Starting point is 00:14:58 She doesn't want to leave there, but she can't. And funny enough, she says, it's mainly because of conversations I have with you and the former New York banker because he goes there as well. So she's having conversations with probably a conservative, more conservative liberal and uh i guess i'm conservative christian who that's probably the problem right there and uh and now she's uh you're turning maga your conversations are not appropriate for the workplace she stabbed her that's not a very nice thing to say so uh but talking about nice

Starting point is 00:15:37 things to say when you started off talking about AI or not AI but yeah AI I did brought me early it brought me to these clips did you hear Tucker and I didn't say anything about AI what I say about AI you're just making it up to get to your clips yeah you did you talked about the banker investing in AI oh oh that oh okay oh yeah you're right you're right you're right and quantum yes you I was talking about quantum man I'm ahead of AI. I'm skating where the puck is going. Did you hear Tucker with the guy

Starting point is 00:16:16 they had a chat GPT or opening it? This came out a couple weeks ago, didn't it? I don't know when it came up. Yeah, a few weeks ago. I'm surprised he hasn't been sued over this. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the murder stuff? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:30 That's it. I'm glad you got these clips because I didn't get them at the time. I thought you'd probably be annoyed by them or something. be annoyed. Because it's AI. I always like to document slander. Because it's AI. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:16:43 I thought you wouldn't like it. I like AI. All right. Well, let's do these clips then. Let me set it up. What happened was Tucker had his Altman's mom, not his mom,

Starting point is 00:16:58 but Altman's, the guy who died into Altman's company. Yeah, he was on, she was on Tucker months ago. Yeah, she was on Tucker. and she accused Altman of setting up a hit. I don't believe that's true. But it was a pretty good triggering mechanism for Tucker to accuse him of murder.

Starting point is 00:17:21 In so many words, yes. In so many words. Yeah, okay, he didn't. And he backs off every time. No, I'm not, I'm not accusing you of anything. However, he did die and he said you did it. There was a note and a candlestick in the other room. Yeah, there's no note.

Starting point is 00:17:37 That's one of the keys. Yeah, that's always a bad sign. A bad sign of it being a suicide because I guess, I don't know, is to 100% of the people that commit suicide, I leave a going away note. I don't know. A lot. They seem to claim that.

Starting point is 00:17:55 So I broke it up into four segments. And I thought it was actionable. Well, hold on a second. You thought it was actionable. when I said that your son-in-law was a deadbeat. I mean, there's actionable and actionable. I had to... Yeah, I think that was actionable.

Starting point is 00:18:14 I had to place a retraction. Yeah, you did. I wasn't getting sued for standard. Tucker does a kind of an on-the-fly retraction. He plays a game. Yeah. He plays a game. He never laughed during the whole thing.

Starting point is 00:18:29 Oh, there you go. And I'm surprised Altman did the interview. What was the point? Are people that part up for attention that they, especially a guy like Altman, that they'd go on Tucker after knowing that this is going to happen? Well, I think that Altman is so detached from reality that if someone says, hey, man, there's a movement against you that he'll say,

Starting point is 00:18:56 okay, I'll take care of it. I'll do an interview with Tucker. That could be. That could be. Yeah, even though there's had no legs until he did the interview as far as I'm concerned. I agree Here we go So you've had complaints from one programmer

Starting point is 00:19:11 who said you guys were basically stealing people's stuff and not paying them and then he wound up murdered What was that? Also a great tragedy He committed suicide Do you think he committed suicide? I really do

Starting point is 00:19:21 This was like a friend of mine This is like a guy that I'm not a close friend But this is someone that worked at opening eye For a very long time I spent I was really shaken by this tragedy I spent a lot of time

Starting point is 00:19:33 trying to, you know, read everything I could as I'm sure you and others did, too, about what happened. It looks like a suicide to me. Why does it look like a suicide? It was a gun he had purchased. It was the, this was like gruesome to talk about, but I read the whole, like, medical record. Does it not look like one to you? No, he was definitely murdered, I think. There was signs of a struggle, of course.

Starting point is 00:19:55 The surveillance camera, the wires had been cut. Oh, no. He just ordered take out food, come back from a vacation with his friends. on Catalina Island, no indication or all that he was suicidal, no note, and no behavior. He had just spoken to a family member on the phone, and then he's found dead with blood in multiple rooms, so that's impossible. It seems really obvious he was murdered. Have you talked to the authorities about it? I've not talked to the authorities about it. Okay, so now I remember that would bother me about the interview. First of all, I think this is,

Starting point is 00:20:26 if I recall correctly, the only time you mention what the accusation was was right at the very beginning. And that's the most interesting piece. I'm sorry for this guy and his family, but you're stealing stuff and not paying for it. That's the big one right there. And then he goes on to say, you know, I spent a lot of time reading about this. You have a chat GPT. You got chat GPT 7.0. Dude, wouldn't you just let your AI tell you what's going on? That's funny. Just a thought. stealing yeah this is a guy and he had documentation he had a lot of documentation apparently about basically copyright theft yeah well i mean that all the i i companies are doing copyright

Starting point is 00:21:13 theft but it depends on what your definition of copyright theft is and how it's interpreted and whether and how fair use comes into play and and how much has been regurgitated uh well do we need to remind ourselves of the Microsoft guy? Why don't you remind us? It was, here we go. The AI CEO, Mustafa Suleiman. With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use.

Starting point is 00:21:47 Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware, if you like. That's been the understanding. There's a separate category where, a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content. That's a gray area and I think that's going to work its way through the courts. So just a quick side note, it's not a great area.

Starting point is 00:22:14 It's called Creative Commons. I sued in court over it and was the first one to win a copyright lawsuit using Creative Commons. And all our stuff has Creative Commons in it. So, no. But that's the general thinking in Silicon Valley. It's a contract. It's a social contract. No, this whole logic is wrong, including the copyright fair use thing.

Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. If, just because you post it, the way the copyright laws were rewritten some years, but then I think the era of the show, they were rewritten in such a way that you only had to put a copyright notice on anything. Oh, is that it? Yeah. Automatically copyright. You write it. It's yours. used to think you had to send it to yourself

Starting point is 00:22:57 in a sealed envelope. Well, that or you had to send it to the Library of Congress had to register it. You had to put the copyright notice. No, none of that's true. And so but if you're going to scrape everything, I mean, Google for example

Starting point is 00:23:13 is the way before AI, they were taking, stealing entire web pages and putting them on their search database. And so the entire web was basically had Google had a copy of it. And then they would search that for your search results.

Starting point is 00:23:33 And then there would be excerpts. And in the early days, you could actually go and take a look at their cash. Oh, yeah, the cash. Which is a copy of the... They don't have that anymore? They don't have the cash on Google? You know, I'm always looking for it once in a while. I don't know what the status of the cash is anymore, but it's not like it used to be.

Starting point is 00:23:55 Meanwhile, the guy who's actually a non-profit and is trying to do this for good with Archive.org is getting sued the kingdom come. Yeah, he's being sued left and right, including being sued over his collection of 78s. Right now, Archive.org has probably the biggest collection of 78 recordings, which are always, which is kind of all passed into the public domain and for all kinds of different reasons because the copyright written material. was always, they used to have a thing in the 30s where the songs, the songs could be played on the radio, but they were protected by a performance type. It was like, instead of at copyright, it would be at performance. And there were performance rights that were owned by the record labels, and that's what these records constituted were performances. And it's just a very gray area. And for years, it's always been assumed that these old 70s

Starting point is 00:24:58 from the 20s and 30s were all, you could play him without having to worry about anything. And so he made a huge collection of them and somebody's, you know, some record company's got some hair up there. This is valuable. And it's not value. This is valuable.

Starting point is 00:25:14 I mean, I love these old 78s, especially during the era, the dance band and jazz era of the early 30s. And when you go on our, Archive.org, because you know of a song, you go to pick it up, and novelty songs were also quite popular. You go there and you look at it and it's got, you know, Bing Crosby's song from 1932 and you look at it. Yeah, it's a tow tapper. It would usually be a toe tapper. And you would look at it and it would say played twice. Oh, yeah, because when you played it, it would degrade the quality of the disc, certainly those 70s. No, no, no, I'm not, no, I'm

Starting point is 00:25:50 talking about being played on archive.org. Oh, oh, huge. copyright violation. Two people listened to it. Yeah, two people, two people downloaded and it was you, you doing a browser refresh, basically. Yeah, it was probably me, both times. And so, no, many of these have been cleaned up by experts and they're, some of them are remarkably nice. I mean, they, you can play them. The real collectors, I knew a couple of collectors, George Morrow have micro, of the Morrow computer was a collector of 78s. Jim Watt, a very famous DJ in the Bay Area was a collector of 78s, and I knew these guys, and they would normally try to find pristine 78s

Starting point is 00:26:34 that they'd find here and there, and they'd never play them, except once. Yeah, that's like my Prince Picture Disc. I won't play that either. Yeah, because it does degrade, because of the needle. Yeah. But once it's put into a digital form, then you can start messing with it and fixing it and making it sound even better. But the point is, is that nobody's listening to this stuff, but he's getting the suit over it anyway.

Starting point is 00:26:59 All right. Back to the death case. Part two. And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders. Do you believe that? Well, I'm asking me. I mean, you just said it. So, do you?

Starting point is 00:27:10 Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I just realized looking at the troll room, there is an entire generation that that went over their head. So 78s, they're small records. No, no, people don't know about 33 and a third RPM, 45 RPM, 78 RPM. Yeah, yeah, we just, wait until we hit the troll room count. We just lost the half of the audience. Well, probably what are they talking about 78?

Starting point is 00:27:42 Good job. Meanwhile, the guys are getting sued. And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders. Do you believe that? I'm asking me. I mean, you just said it. So do you believe that? I think that it is worth looking into.

Starting point is 00:28:00 And I don't, I mean, if a guy comes out and accuses your company of committing crimes, I have no idea if that's true or not, of course. And then it's found killed, and there are signs of a struggle. I don't think it's worth dismissing it. I don't think we should say, well, he killed himself when there's no evidence that the guy was depressed at all. I think, and if he was your friend, I would think he would want to speak to his business. mom or? I did offer. She didn't want to. So do you

Starting point is 00:28:27 feel that, you know, when people look at that and they're like, you know, it's possible that happened, do you feel that that reflects the worries they have about what's happening here? Like, people are afraid that this is like... I've done too many interviews where I've been accused of like...

Starting point is 00:28:43 Oh, I'm not accusing you at all. I'm just saying his mother says that I don't think a fair read of the evidence suggests suicide at all. I mean, they just don't see that at all. And I also don't understand why the authorities, when there are signs of a struggle in blood in two rooms on a suicide, like how does that actually happen? I don't understand how the authorities could just kind of dismiss that as a suicide. I think it's weird.

Starting point is 00:29:09 This is how Tucker makes two-hour-long interviews. Yeah. Okay. Now, I have to, my thinking on this is a guy who's a guy who's. steals a bunch of documents from a company's working for, which is somewhat larcenous, even though it's to prove a crime, is probably getting himself into trouble in other areas,

Starting point is 00:29:37 just by his nature, which I think could account for his, and it probably was murdered, but not necessarily by the Altman's people, because, no, you never want it tied back to you, he gets one of those? But why would you even care?

Starting point is 00:29:51 It's just like you're so cavalier anyway about stealing copyrighted material and you heard the guy from Microsoft that it's like okay well yeah okay proved that we took some copyrighted material they could have they could have discredited him called him a thief a liar a chief yeah there's a lot of ways to go a lot of things you could have done but that's not Tucker style man we got to go for I think you killed him I think you had him killed I think you had him killed you understand how this sounds like an accusation

Starting point is 00:30:23 Of course. And I mean, I certainly, let me just be clear once again, not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but I think it's worth finding out what happened. And I don't understand what the city of San Francisco has refused to investigate it beyond just calling it a suicide. I mean, I think they looked into it a couple of times, more than once as I understand it. I saw that, and I will totally say when I first heard about this, it sounded very suspicious. Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 00:30:48 And I know you had been involved in. was mother reached out in the case and I you know I don't know anything about it's not my world she just reached out cold she reached out cold wow wow and uh and I spoke to her a great length and it and it scared the crap out of me the kid was clearly killed by somebody that was my conclusion objectively with no skin in the game and you after reading the latest report yes I said stop it stop it because I didn't catch this the first time why would it scare the crap out of him Well, that's a good question. A borderline great question, but it's a good question. I don't know why it would scare the crap out of him. But I think that Tucker just does that for effect. You know, he's so shocked. He's shocked by everything.

Starting point is 00:31:36 Shocking. Yeah, that could be scared the crap out of me. He's Tucker. He's shocking. Look, I'm never getting invited on his podcast, so I might as well just say. He's weird. She reached out cool. Wow.

Starting point is 00:31:48 And I spoke to her at great length. and it scared the crap out of me. The kid was clearly killed by somebody. That was my conclusion, objectively, with no skin in the game. And you, after reading the latest report. Yes. And I immediately called a member of Congress from California, Rokana, and said, this is crazy.

Starting point is 00:32:06 You've got to look into this. And nothing ever happened. Do you do that, John? Do you immediately call your member of Congress? I call them and nothing ever happens. It's the same thing. I'm on the same league. But I like, I'm talking about it.

Starting point is 00:32:18 I immediately called a member of Congress. Like, let me get on the street. speed dial. Let me call Roe Kana. And I'm like, what is that? Again, I think this is, I feel strange and sad debating this and having to, I'm not even debating. And you are a little bit accusing me, but the, this was like a wonderful person and a family that is clearly struggling.

Starting point is 00:32:38 Yes. And I think you can totally take the point that you're just trying to get to the truth of what happened. And I respect that. Oh, no. Silicon Valley. How many times we heard people talk like this, yes. Basically, he's saying, F you, Tucker, that's Silicon Valley speak from, I can totally see the point that you're coming at, and I totally respect that,

Starting point is 00:33:01 which is Silicon Valley talk for F off. I think his memory and his family deserve to be treated with a level of respect and grief that I don't quite feel here. I'm asking at the behest of his family, so I'm definitely showing them respect. Oh, yes. I'm here representing the family and Roe Conner. And I'm not accusing you of any involvement in this at all. What I am saying is that the evidence does not suggest suicide

Starting point is 00:33:30 and for the authorities in your city to allied past that and ignore the evidence that any reasonable person would say adds up to a murder, I think is very weird. And it shakes the faith that one has in our system's ability to respond to the facts. Okay, so Tucker's going after conspiracy here because he believes that the city of San Francisco is in on it and doesn't want to rock the boat with the big Silicon Valley company, and that's where he's coming from. I guess that's what he's trying to prove, but is Open AI even in San Francisco or is that that wasn't out in the peninsula? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:34:11 The peninsula. What is the peninsula? The peninsula is where everything is. It's not in San Francisco per se. Oh, it's San Mateo. Yeah, San Mateo. Is it, you just look it up? No, I used to go there all the time to visit A-Holes like this.

Starting point is 00:34:27 Sorry, Ray Lane. You were okay. Well, most of it's down further than San Mateo. Yeah, yeah. Sand Hill Road, baby. You got Palo Alto. Palo Alto is pretty much the center. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:41 All right. All right. So let's wrap it up with this guy. You know, but this was still baffling to me why Tucker or did this at all. So what does he like the white night or trying to embarrass this guy? How about this? He is committed to creating X amount of content for his advertisers.

Starting point is 00:35:02 He has to, you know, and content is inventory. And he's always looking for something to do. How about that? Is that a crazy thought? I mean, he had Alex Jones on the other day for two and a half hours. He's desperate for content. and he likes talking to people and most of the time it's entertaining

Starting point is 00:35:22 this I didn't think was one of them but I understand where you're coming from with these clips and I'm glad you got them so what I was going to say is after the first set of information that came out I was really like man this doesn't look like a suicide I'm confused this looks like okay so I'm not reaching not being crazy here

Starting point is 00:35:40 well but then after the second thing came out and the more detail I was like okay what changed your mind Um, the second report on the way the bullet entered him and the sort of person who had, like, followed the sort of likely path of things through the room. I assume you looked at this too. Yes, I did. And what about that? Didn't change your mind.

Starting point is 00:36:01 It just didn't make any sense to me. Why would the security camera virus be cut? And how did cover up? He wind up bleeding in two rooms after shooting himself. And why was there a wig in the room that wasn't his? and has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication or the person was suicidal

Starting point is 00:36:20 who just ordered to take out food? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Could this be a trans thing going on here? What kind of wig? What was this with the wig? The wig is interesting. It throws the wig in at the last second there which you could have done at the beginning

Starting point is 00:36:33 when he had some laundry list. And the wig that wasn't his. This is Tucker doing T.C. Owen. This is true crime. True crime really. Hey, Tucker, true crime really gets ratings. man. Oh, okay. Well, then I'll have the family on. I'll, uh, I'll abuse them and then I'll go and I'll get into you with Altman and then I'll pin it on him and it'll be true crime. We'll

Starting point is 00:36:55 get lots of clicks. You know, you might, you know, as glib as you are about that commentary right there, you might be on to something. I listen to Tucker's podcast and it's interrupted frequently by ads. It's very annoying. It's, you know, most, most podcasts aren't. They just, they're talking like so you don't think that this was gold is the way to go everybody have you seen the price of gold it's over four thousand dollars no instead you just chop right in the middle it's like uh well you know i'm eating these fantastic chips you know what they're made with they're made with with uh tallow beef tallow and potato and i have a garage full they're great Followed by There's a new kind of dog food It's not farmer's dog No, I got the competition here

Starting point is 00:37:47 These guys are better than farmers dog Do you like nicotine? I love nicotine I love these pouches It's good for you Nicotine is healthy, it's good And I use it all the time Can you tell?

Starting point is 00:37:59 I mean, who orders DoorDash And then shoots himself I mean, maybe I've covered a lot of crimes As a police reporter Oh Oh, there we go. By the way, people don't like it when we slam other podcasts.

Starting point is 00:38:13 Just so you know, they don't like it. They're like, man, you're shooting inside the tent, man. Don't do that. I heard of anything like that. Well, wait. Yes, yes, it's true. Because I started doing this. We do media deconstruction.

Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, I tried that. We consider a podcast part of the media landscape. Yes, I'm in agreement with you. I'm just letting you know when I started doing that because people were saying, Hey, man. Well, you were kind of in that camp early on, I'd say about 15 years ago. When I started doing some slams against certain podcasts, you kind of pushed back on. We were building an industry, bro.

Starting point is 00:38:50 Okay. And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication or all that the person was suicidal who just ordered takeout food? I mean, who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself? I mean, maybe. I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter. I've never heard of anything like that. So, no, I was even more confused. This is where it gets into, I think, a little bit painful,

Starting point is 00:39:11 just not the level of respect. I'd hope to show to someone with this kind of mental. I get it. I totally get it. People do get suicide without notes a lot. Like, that happens. For sure. People definitely order food they like before they can't suicide.

Starting point is 00:39:25 Like, this is an incredible tragedy. That's his family's view, and they think it was a murder, and that's why I'm asking the question. If I were his family, I am sure. sure i would want answers and i'm sure i would not be satisfied with really any i mean there's nothing that would comfort me in that you know right like so i get it right i also care a lot about respect to him right okay all right your conclusion your takeaway from this series pretty much is your conclusion which is tucker's just fill in his air but i think he's

Starting point is 00:40:03 He's opening himself out for some action. Nah, from Open AI? Nah. Well, maybe, maybe not. But if I was this guy, if I was Altman, I'd sue him. Nah. For innuendo. It makes him look like, he's got other things to do, man.

Starting point is 00:40:20 Have you been up and following the news? And I'd be, like, collect trillions of dollars, you know, maybe. Well, he's not collecting anything. He's spending it. Well, yeah. Have you, I'm sure you've heard the latest. This is enjoying life. This is the big.

Starting point is 00:40:33 Big news, well, hey, listen, he wakes up every morning. He looks in the mirror and he's Sam Altman, so I don't know if he's enjoying life. I'm not so sure. But the big news. He's probably got five hookers in the room. Well, the big news is this. Chad GPT was soon able to write erotica for adults. This update was announced by OpenAI boss Sam Altman, who said users who verified their ages would be able to access a wider range of content.

Starting point is 00:40:58 He said OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, had previously made the chatbot pretty restrictive and that it was less useful slash enjoyable for users with no mental health problems. But new tools meant those restrictions could soon be relaxed. Open AI was sued earlier this year by the parents of US teen Adam Rayne, who took his own life. The lawsuit showed that Adam had discussed his suicidal thoughts with the chatbot. In a statement given at the time, Open AI told the BBC it was reviewing the filing. Both in the UK and the US, there's concerns about what this update will mean for child safety. Written erotica does not require an age verification in the UK under the Online Safety Act. And in the U.S., there's calls for more regulation at all levels.

Starting point is 00:41:34 OpenAI did not respond to our request for comments. That was from the BBC. So this is interesting because, as we've identified, it's the only product people actually want and we'll pay for. Like, yeah, I want a sexy chatbot. Elon led the way with his Annie. Annie. Yeah, Annie.

Starting point is 00:41:54 And now Altman's going all in. Here's what he posted on X. we made so I do it with Altman it'd take me forever to do it like Altman we made chat GPT pretty restrictive to make sure we were being careful with mental health issues

Starting point is 00:42:10 we realized this made it less useful and enjoyable to many users who had no mental health problems dude 90% of people have mental health problems but okay but given the seriousness of this issue we wanted to get this right

Starting point is 00:42:24 now that we've been able to mitigate the serious mental health issues and have new tools, we are going to be able to safely relax the restrictions in most cases. In a few weeks, we plan to put out a new version of ChatGPT, new version coming, upgrade, that allows people to have a personality that behaves more like what people liked about 4.0. We hope it will be better, exclamation mark. If you want your ChatGPT to respond in a very human-like way or use a ton of emoji or act like a friend, Chad GPT should do it, but only if you want it, not because we are usage maxing.

Starting point is 00:43:02 This is a new term. In December, what is it? Usage maxing, which I think is code for making it addictive. I guess it is. It would make sense. In December, as we roll out age gating more fully and as a part of our treat adult users like adults principle, we'll allow even more like erotica. for verified adults.

Starting point is 00:43:32 Erotica. Erotica. Something makes me... What a term, erot. And this leads me to... Actually, I got a... It was a note from Sir Hoopensocker. And he says,

Starting point is 00:43:45 first off, I'm not bothered. Okay, whenever I know, at the opening like that, I'm like, okay. Oh, yeah, that's a giveaway. I'm not bothered by Yor and John's irritation with video podcasts. Well, hold on. I don't think we're irritated by video podcasts, are we?

Starting point is 00:43:59 I watch them all the time. Yeah. It's like, we don't want to do one. Yeah, there's a big difference between being irritated by them and wanting to do one, which is that they're a pain in the ass, and they don't really deliver the goods. Well, well, hold on a second, because he says, and I respect your take as the creator, which I'm like, what? Woo!

Starting point is 00:44:24 It's capital T, capital C. But as a perspective, most of us are visual learners. I can't even listen to audiobooks because my attention wanders after a few minutes and I have to rewind, whereas even if it's just too dork sitting across a desk from each other, the visual component keeps me engaged. I listen to almost every No Agenda episode three times, and the only Rogan episode I've watched more than once are the Jordan Peterson episodes. They are idea-dense. I learn and remember better with the insipid video element.

Starting point is 00:45:00 Now, I replied to him, I said, hey, man, I'm sorry. That sucks that all this video has disabled your learning ability. I didn't even say it like that. So that's what you meant. Yeah, I was nicer than that. And he took offense to it, of course. I said, I didn't mean any offense. You meant offense.

Starting point is 00:45:19 Well, the reason why I... You're a defensive guy in a very subtle way. No, I'm not. So, but this leads me to a story from a great substack, which is titled Everything is Television. Well, wait, let's get back to what he, hold on a second. I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it. Are you going to do a weave?

Starting point is 00:45:39 Okay. I'm going to go back. I'm weaving, baby. Yes, we'll come right back to it. So this leads me to a substack that I was reading from Derek Thompson, everything is television. And he cites and links to. a filing by META in an antitrust case with the Federal Trade Commission about them being a social media monopoly.

Starting point is 00:46:07 And there's a lot of other things happening, age verification, all the app stores, because we have an app with Godcaster. All the app stores are now saying, hey, get ready. We're going to have an age verification API, there's all kinds of age verification stuff coming. I'm sure META doesn't like it.

Starting point is 00:46:25 And here's what they filed. Only a small share of time spent on our social networking's platform are truly social networking. That is, time spent checking in with friends and family. More than 80% of the time on Facebook and more than 90% of the time on Instagram is spent watching videos. So they literally say, today, this is the filing, only a fraction of time spent on meta services, 7% on Instagram, and 17% of Facebook. involves consuming content from online friends. A majority of time spent on both apps is watching videos, increasingly short-form videos that are unconnected,

Starting point is 00:47:07 i.e. not from a friend or followed account, and recommended by AI-powered algorithms meta-developed as a direct competitive response to TikTok's rise, which stalls Meta's growth. And when I read that, I'm like, well, this explains why we're all becoming idiots. We're just sitting there, doom, we're not even using Facebook for Facebook anymore. It's just doom scrolling all day long.

Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, yeah. This is. We have a number of our top-notch, well-known producers that seem to be doing this. So, which brings me to a no-agenda classic book, Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman, although he was writing about television, it's kind of interesting to go back and look what he wrote. He said each medium, like language itself, makes possible a unique mode of discourse by providing a new orientation for thought, for expression, and for sensibility.

Starting point is 00:48:07 Television speaks to us in a particular dialect. When everything turns into television, every form of communication starts to adopt television's values, immediacy, emotion, spectacle, and brevity. Now, I would say, you know, that's on, that's hyper speed now with these short form videos. In the glow of a local news program or, or outraged news feed now, the viewer bathes in a vat of their own cortisol. When everything is urgent, nothing is truly important. Politics becomes theater, science becomes storytelling, news becomes performance. The results, a society that forgets how to think in paragraphs and learns instead to think in scenes.

Starting point is 00:48:50 And when I read that, re-read that, I thought, podcasting the way we do it is actually fantastic. It's good for you. It's healthy. It trains you to pay attention to something. You can actually do other things like walking outside. Gardening. Gardening. Yes, thank you.

Starting point is 00:49:12 You can do all kinds of watering the lawn, mowing the lawn, you know, just walking while you're listening to a podcast. And yes, your thoughts may wander a bit, but you'll have, you'll be learning something. And it's just, it's a sad state when the whole world, because look at the MAU, the monthly average users and the TAM of all of these social media sites, including X, I'm sure. It's just all people scrolling videos from people they don't even know or care to know. And now with SORA too, everything is like, oh, I don't even know if that's real. I don't care. My brain's fried. So to Sir Hoopin Soccer, I think it's a great opportunity to try.

Starting point is 00:49:57 Try to just listen to no agenda. And how many times people are, you're missing the boat? No. All we'd have is people getting little clips, little clips of us, you know, two old dudes with cans and microphones. Oh, look at those guys. Oh, that guy's got a tick. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:50:16 What did they just say? Oh, outrage. No. No, we can't share, we can't share audio. No, I don't want you to share audio. It's good for you to just sit there and listen to something. Audio books are still pretty popular. So luckily, there's a lot of people who drive your car while listening to them.

Starting point is 00:50:36 Well, you can drive your car while listening to a podcast. Of course. Yeah, all this is good. So I was just thinking, this is good. And then the news comes yesterday that Spotify and Netflix have now made a deal where Spotify video podcasts will now be streaming on Netflix. Who wants that? He said famously, okay, clip it everybody,

Starting point is 00:51:04 because maybe this will be a huge success, but I don't see it. So these like all of the ringer podcasts, some of them I think are just Zoom calls, okay? They're taking them off YouTube, because of course, This is about YouTube being the boss. And they're going to now have them streaming on Netflix. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:51:27 What do you think? I'm not going to watch it. No, I know you're not going to watch it. I was just wondering what you thought. I don't care for it. But, you know, if they want to do it, it's more distribution. It's probably good for the podcaster. You want to call it a podcast or the video presentation.

Starting point is 00:51:44 By the way, you have an invitation. I was on the gold gun. and goats podcast, which I think comes out tomorrow. And I'm a big fan. Is it about gold? Gold guns and goats. Actually, I've been listening. It's about guns and goats?

Starting point is 00:51:59 Yes. Do they talk about eating goats? No. What the hell? Okay. So I've gotten a lot of my education on stable coin from them. The North Sea Nexus stuff. They've been very helpful.

Starting point is 00:52:15 What am I hearing? Oh, scam likely. And Tom Luan. Longo, who's been around for a long time, he is a huge John C. DeVorek fan. Oh, good for him. And in fact, he's like, you know, when John started talking about pipelines, I'm like, dude, oh, okay. So that was you, wasn't it? Yes.

Starting point is 00:52:33 I'd like to get credited for some of these things. I let you have it. I didn't say anything. I'm like, it's okay. Yeah, you would have sounded like a little baby. Yeah. Well, yes, exactly. I see, I'm not defensive.

Starting point is 00:52:44 Maybe he set you up to do that. And I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe he's like one of those guys. who is good at it. Anyway, I said that I would be more than happy to make the introduction. Well, I'd be glad to do the show, sure.

Starting point is 00:52:55 Because I think you'll really enjoy it. They get really deep in financial stuff. And yeah, I think you'll enjoy it. So, okay, I'll make that connection. Tom will be, we'll be delighted. You're a big, big Dvorak fan. Like, why am I even on this podcast? You want John.

Starting point is 00:53:10 You don't want me. It was obvious. Then, I'm sorry. you didn't do the weave. You didn't go back to the point I'm trying to make earlier that you interrupted me. He said you're going to do the weave and now you're off to something new. I just can't. You suck at it.

Starting point is 00:53:31 Well, we're no Trump. Weave me back. Weave me back. Where are we going? You don't remember what it was. Yeah, I do. Okay. It was that guy.

Starting point is 00:53:38 It was bitching and moaning to you in the letter. Yeah. And we went into the whole, I did the whole thing. I did the whole thing about the video. You didn't come back to it because I had stuff to say about the letter. That was that point. of the weave you didn't execute. The weave that I screwed up on the weave with a bad stitch for a podcast invite for you. I'm sorry. Well, here's, okay, well, that's fine and dandy.

Starting point is 00:54:00 But here's what, here's the point I was going to make about this guy and his complaint. He said in his letter that he has to listen to the podcast three times. What more do you want? I mean, this is like if you got to listen three times, that means you're listening three times. that's nine hours of listening to because our material must be so good that you feel obliged to listen to it three whole times you kidding me we've had other people say you guys suck I had to listen to your podcast three times it's just it seems like it's missing the point the podcast is so good that you can listen to it three times I always wonder if people really do that when they say that.

Starting point is 00:54:46 It's a lot of time. It's a whole day. It's a day's work. I mean, where does he have time to watch a video podcast? He's listening to 18 hours a week of our show. Yeah, well, I agree. It's probably bull crap. But anyway, he did say it.

Starting point is 00:55:03 But my point was... And by the way, another point I was going to make into Weave was that one of the things that we both, you and I both have noticed doing it audio only is that you become attuned and I think you proved this really to an extreme probably about six months ago when you played a Gavin Newsom clip where Newsom's wiggling his shoulders and he's moving his hands all around and you don't really hear him yeah when you just what did I pick up I don't remember what I picked up it was something that he was saying that it was not it was it was covered up by all his gyrations he's

Starting point is 00:55:40 wiggling around like he's got the ants in his pants and he and when you just listen it which is one of the reasons that we've we talked about this on the show before when you we listen and produce these audio clips yeah we catch a lot that we hadn't even caught when we were clipping it you don't catch stuff if you're looking and in fact with i remember like 10 years ago i used to do all these clips from from tv shows and it was like just i think they were called bad acting or something. Here's the troll room. Yeah, but with video,

Starting point is 00:56:14 we can see that Newsom's a fag. Okay, well, there's that. There's that. Yeah, well, there is that. You can't be that. The point is, the point is that you get, when somebody says something, you don't need to be distracted

Starting point is 00:56:31 by their magician act where they're moving, this and that. They're trying to distract you from what they're actually saying. The distraction. Yeah, it's true. absolutely true so it's denser and contented to do it without the video is just this it's kind of cool if you want to be on TV right right which neither of us have any aspirations for at this point in our lives no I'm too old yeah I'm too old now too don't you see no you can still do it dude you sit in that barber chair why do barbers always have the worst mirrors ever if you just look old and decrepit and like is that really me. That's because you're using mercury for the reflective material instead of silver. Does that mean it's more accurate?

Starting point is 00:57:18 No, it means it's more, it's higher in the blue range, and it's more like daylight than soft light. Well, this is something I never knew. It's a Kelvin. It's the Kelvin that is retransmitted back to you is too high. The numbers are too high. No, well, I appreciate that. This is something I'd never thought of, never knew. I like it. I like it. because old-fashioned mirrors are all silver and so the Kelvin reflected Kelvin is going to be in probably the 3,000 to 5,500 to 4,000 range

Starting point is 00:57:48 as opposed to Mercury. I'm going to say to my hair lady, I'm going to say, if you're still here, what's the Calvin of your mirror? I want to know. I don't know how you'd measure the Kelvin of a mirror, but I think you could do it. Somebody out there knows how to do this stuff.

Starting point is 00:58:03 But I am familiar with the Kelvin ratings. Yes, I can tell. I like it. You're very familiar with it. One more chat GPT clip just because it came in this morning. Retail giant Walmart has announced a partnership with chat GPT, allowing customers to purchase products directly through the AI chat platform. The collaboration marks a significant step in the growing integration of artificial intelligence into everyday life.

Starting point is 00:58:26 Since the emergence of consumer-facing AI, analysts have long speculated about its potential to disrupt traditional business models and daily routines. With this partnership, AI appears to be transitioning from a helpful novelty, to a fully embedded part of commerce and lifestyle. As part of the deal, Walmart will reportedly share shopper data with ChatGBT's parent company in exchange for integration on the platform. Given Walmart's vast retail footprint, such data is among its most valuable assets, typically closely guarded.

Starting point is 00:58:55 The company's willingness to share this information underscores this strategic importance of places on AI's role in shaping the future of retail. I think it's a mistake. It's huge mistake. You can't do that. given away that that's probably some valuable material in there that the AI machines can figure out and it's going to hurt Walmart.

Starting point is 00:59:14 Well, I guess dumb. What kind of stupid deal was that that Walmart made? The lady is running democracy forward. No kings. I don't know. I mean, I guess they're thinking that it'll increase sales because it's a recommendation engine or I don't know. This reminds me of Dick Brass.

Starting point is 00:59:35 Oh, the old Dick Brass story. Dick Brass was this entrepreneur. I haven't seen him for years. He used to work for Microsoft for a while. But before he did that, in the very early days of computing, he went to Random House and did a sweet deal to get a digital rights to the first guy who got digital rights to a book. It was like in the probably the early 80s, maybe the late 70s.

Starting point is 01:00:04 and he went and got these digital rights of random houses, thesaurus, and dictionary. Wow. And he remembers the, because I knew him enough that he talked about the meeting. He said, they said, oh, yeah, sure, you can have it. You can have them.

Starting point is 01:00:21 I mean, they're no good. These digital rights don't mean anything. We're a book company. We print. Like MTV is saying, you can have the internet domain name. We've got the AOL keyword. Who cares? Go for it.

Starting point is 01:00:32 Yes, which is something you love to harp. on, which is, but is a classic example of this kind of stupidity or lack of forward thinking. Yeah. And as opposed to stupidity, which is slightly different. But so, so you got, and they, as time went on, within four or five years, when all the digital rights thing became a big deal and they were worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, they were whining and moaning and groaning. They had to buy it back from them for a fortune.

Starting point is 01:01:00 I tried to buy, what was that, what was that? what was that service where you put the CD into your drive and then it went on the internet and he looked it up and then it would help you burn the CD? What was that called? There was a number of things that would go on the internet and organize stuff for you and also normalize the sound.

Starting point is 01:01:23 And it would also tell you what the song name was and the artist. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, that operation was out of Amoryville. I can almost think of the name of it. Because I called the guy, I spoke to him, and he said, oh, man, we, we just sold it to somebody else for, like, CD database. Yes, CDDB. I'm like, I want to buy that for you know, because I had $50,000 that this is like, you know, public company days.

Starting point is 01:01:47 I'm like, I want to buy this. I see a future. And I think CDB, their database later sold for a lot of money to Pandora or somebody like that. Because what they had done is they had the catalog. And I saw that as incredibly valuable. Yeah, well, you were ahead of your time. Actually, that case, you're behind your time. Yes, I'm usually 10 years ahead.

Starting point is 01:02:07 By a couple of weeks you were short there. Missed it, missed it. But then again, I did invest in Ask Jeeve, so that was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. It allowed you to get into the helicopter business and go broke. Fabulous idea. Hey, hey, I had a lot of fun. I could tell you that.

Starting point is 01:02:26 I had a lot of fun. I can fly a chopper. I can't do that. Literally burning money. the sky. So, of course, we had the big, the big peace deal, phase one,

Starting point is 01:02:38 which was very interesting to watch. Just, I'm just sitting there like, our president is, he's nuts, but he's doing very interesting things. He called it Miriam Adelson. Did you see that? I forgot to clip it.

Starting point is 01:02:54 No, I did not see that. I didn't know he called Miriam Aydelson. Oh, yeah. He called her out. And, uh, I see, maybe have it here, uh, because people going nuts over this. This guy's insane. I can't believe he's doing this. Hold on a second. What did he do?

Starting point is 01:03:10 I want to, uh, I want to play it for you so that you can, uh, so you can enjoy it. Uh, you know, the only here he's, here it is. Here it is. Yeah. Broken promises from any other American presidents. You know that. They kept promising. I never understood it until I got there.

Starting point is 01:03:29 They, there was a lot of pressure. put on these presidents. It was put on me, too, but I didn't yield to the pressure. But every president for decades recognized the... Hold on. Here we go. Is that right, Miriam? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:48 He's pointing at her now. Isn't that right, Miriam? Miriam. She's back there. Stand up, you know. Stand up. And she looks like a kook. Her hair is all crazy, like her hair dry exploded. Here he goes. Miriam and Sheldon would come into the office. They'd call me. It'd call me. I think they had more trips to the White House than anybody else. I could think. I've looked at her sitting there so innocently. She's got $60 billion in the bank, $60 billion. and she loves I think she's saying no more

Starting point is 01:04:33 and she loves Israel but she loves it and they would come in and her husband was a very aggressive man but I loved them it was a very aggressive very supportive of me and he'd call up can I come over and see you

Starting point is 01:04:48 and say Sheldon I'm the president of the United States it doesn't work that way he'd come in but they were very responsible for so much including getting me thinking about Golan Heights, which is probably one of the greatest things to ever happen.

Starting point is 01:05:09 But here's the money shot. Miriam, stand up, please. She really is. I mean, she loves this country. She loves this country. Her and her husband are so incredible. We miss him so dearly. But I actually asked, I'm going to get her in trouble with this,

Starting point is 01:05:39 but I actually asked her once they said, So, Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more? The United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That means, that might mean Israel, I must say. So people go nuts over this. He's admitting, he's admitting it.

Starting point is 01:05:58 He's controlled by Israel. Israel. Get that? Of course not. In fact, it's the most transparent I've ever seen a president be. Like, well, I got $100 million. He didn't say $100 million, but very supportive of me. And then they gave me some thoughts about the Golan Heights.

Starting point is 01:06:16 And I think they love Israel more than America. I'm like, okay. That was, oh, that, oh, that set people off. I don't know why it would set anybody off. I'm just saying. I don't understand it either. anyway so that that was a little moment there then he goes to egypt and man everybody except iran everybody was there all the big wigs they're all like you're great the the pakistan prime ministeries

Starting point is 01:06:43 like without you millions of people would have been dead between us and india thank you for stopping that everyone's just loving them and loving them and loving them so it's just the best you got georgia maloney smiling at him from behind he turns around he says i get in trouble for this as a politician, but you're beautiful. You're just beautiful. So he's doing this whole rap, and he's going down the list alphabetically. And Jeremy Kyle, he's on Sky News in the UK. I think he had a talk show, maybe he still has a talk show, a morning talk show.

Starting point is 01:07:18 And he was doing a voice, I guess the way they, you know how they used to do the Eurovision song contest and the Brits are always making fun. of it. Sir Terry Wogan was great at that and always laughing. Because they always came in last and they always be laughing about it. So Jeremy Kyle is doing a version of that. And for 15 minutes

Starting point is 01:07:41 and it's only on YouTube. I guess they were showing the straight video of Trump on television, but on YouTube they have his commentary, which he's making as he's watching it, which I think is an interesting thing to do. And they're playing, he and his co-hosts are playing it just like

Starting point is 01:07:57 it's the Eurovision Song Contest, because Kier Starrmer, the Prime Minister, is standing there, and he'd like the Cheshire Cat, and they're like, oh, oh, he's last. Oh, he's been waiting 15 minutes. I'll just play this one minute where it came to it. And, uh, uh, UAE. Oh, UAE. We're next. We're next.

Starting point is 01:08:18 United Kingdom. Where's United Kingdom? Behind you. Oh, I'm here. Oh, that you are. Oh, that you are. Oh. The stick is coming forward.

Starting point is 01:08:29 People all came in like 20, 20 minute notice. Oh, he's come up to speak and Trump's sent him away. And we have so many others. It's such a compliment to what we're doing because what we've done is something very big and very special. So it's perhaps the wealthiest and most powerful. Right. Cut him now.

Starting point is 01:08:50 Cut that. Just stop Trump now. I had to wait for that, people. Honestly, can you please cut that? He waited 15 minutes. it's Kea Stama to be mentioned. And as Trump, it stood right behind Trump. He goes, where is he?

Starting point is 01:09:02 So he turns around and Stama walks to the lecter and Trump looks at him and sort of go away. Stama looks now as if somebody's put something very disgusting under his nose. It was great. He totally cock-blocked him. Like, no, you're not going to talk. You're not going to say anything.

Starting point is 01:09:22 And the main reason is, of course, that Britain and France went to this whole two-state solution thing and we recognize Palestine as a state. And here's what Rubio thought of that. Have you noticed that the talks with Hamas fell apart on the day McCrone made the unilateral decision that he's going to recognize a Palestinian state. And then you have other people come forward. Other countries say, well, if there's not a ceasefire by September, we're going to recognize a Palestinian state. Well, if I'm Hamas, I basically conclude, let's not do a ceasefire. Right. Because we can be rewarded and we can claim it as a victory. So those messages, while largely

Starting point is 01:09:55 symbolic in their minds, actually have made it harder to get peace and harder to achieve a deal with Hamas. They feel emboldened. Now, not to be outdone, as the Brits, of course, have been totally shunned. This is, they never wanted this to happen. They love this strife in the Middle East, the North Sea nexus. The Secretary of Education, Bridget Philipson, comes out, goes on Sky News and said, oh, no, we actually did this. We recognize that Trump has taken all the honor here, but we actually did this. We have played a key role behind the scenes in shaping this. It's right that we do so, because it's in all of our interests, including our own national interest, that we move to a lasting peace in the region. Well, when you say behind the scenes,

Starting point is 01:10:37 like what? I mean, it seems to everybody else in the world that this has been done by Trump and the Israelis and Hamas. What part did we play? These are complex matters of diplomacy that we are involved in, but we do welcome and recognize the critical rule that the American American government played in moving us to this point. What matters now, of course, is how we move beyond this immediate end to the war, moving towards that lasting peace that we all want to see. And that is why we've recognised a Palestinian state. But why alongside that, we're committed to making sure that a safe and secure Israel endures. The reason I ask this is because, as you say, we recognise a Palestinian state.

Starting point is 01:11:17 Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, said that actually made it more difficult to land the deal. What's really going on here? I mean, was that some sort of clever, strategic double bluff? I mean, the Americans say we made it more difficult. You're saying that we played this key part. What's true? We believed as a government that it was the right thing to do to recognise the Palestinian state because of the way in which the conflict had developed over the last two years, that if that hadn't happened, we would be in a position where there would no longer be that viable option of a Palestinian state. But the Israelis were furious with us.

Starting point is 01:11:55 The Americans said that we actually hampered the deal. What was the positive role that we played? It was the right thing to do, and we will always act as a government in that manner. I do obviously understand that not everyone agrees with that decision. But given the scale of the conflict and what needed to happen, we felt it was the right thing to do to recognize that Palestinian state. But I should also just emphasize that the reason this conflict, of course, this phase of the conflict has begun or began, was following the appalling events.

Starting point is 01:12:23 the appalling atrocities of the 7th of October. And over the course of the next 24 hours, what we all want to see are as many hostages as possible, released home to their families and those brought home. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. And then we've got, you know, Anthony Blinkin also took credit. Yes, the New York Times did a big article, the lost chances to reach a hostage deal and ceasefire months ago.

Starting point is 01:12:49 Because, you know, they had it all teed up. All Trump had to do was just, make it happen. And because he prolonged the war with his antics, lots of Palestinians were killed. It's amazing, these people. It's truly amazing. New York Times. Yeah, it's just pretty pathetic. Yeah. So anyway, I think the best, the best quote was on, he was yelling at the BBC people on the plane. He's, He's like, I think he's on to this. It's North Sea Nexus.

Starting point is 01:13:26 He's like, nah, no, these guys are no good. And then Ducey comes out with a question, which was pretty funny answer. You had talked a couple weeks ago. You were doing an interview and you talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven. How does this help? I mean, you know, I'm being a little cute. I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven.

Starting point is 01:13:49 Okay. I think I think I'm not maybe heavenbound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly in Air Force one. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven. But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people. And, you know, as an example, had the election of 2020 not been rigged, you would have millions of people living just in Russia, Ukraine alone. That would have never happened.

Starting point is 01:14:12 And it didn't happen for four years. And I knew Putin very well. It was the apple of his eye. All the things I've said, would have never happened. We had an incompetent administration. we had an incompetent president and because of a crooked election, millions of people are dead.

Starting point is 01:14:29 There you go. I'm not going to heaven. You know, when he said that, because he's been talking about this for some reason, I'm surprised that the lefties haven't picked up on it as an admission to Epstein. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, and not one guy has picked, nobody's picked up.

Starting point is 01:14:50 It's too late. I think the timing's off now. You can't do it. It seems to me that's the first thing I'd say, oh, they're going to go after him here because this is now he's admitting. He's just admitted that he was an Epstein pedophile. That's a good one. No.

Starting point is 01:15:06 But no, they're just too, they're too dumb. No. Yes. They're too wrapped up in trying to give the credit to Biden. I have a clip. I have a interesting gods. This is kind of a, this is like at the end of a, I think it, an NPR discussion about Gaza.

Starting point is 01:15:26 And this is just the final talking about the who's going to be policing the place and all the rest of it. And I thought it was a good way to wrap currently where we stand on Gaza. Oh, here we go. The vacuum. Is that it? The vacuum. Yeah. Who is going to fill this vacuum if no.

Starting point is 01:15:43 Whoa. Hold on a second. What's this? You've got to you're out of, out of sync, man. No. Yeah. You got, hold on. Let me monowize you.

Starting point is 01:15:52 Hold on. Hmm. Okay. Let's try that again. Who is going to fill this vacuum if no one's in control? Well, the ceasefire calls for a committee of Palestinian technocrats to run Gaza on an interim basis. Egypt's foreign minister says there is now a list of 15 people, and he says the names have been approved by Hamas and Israel. However, the names haven't been announced, and it's not clear when they'll take over or how much authority they'll have to take care of things like. like health care, education, water, electricity, coordination with aid groups. And, Alyssa, as you know, the needs are staggering, and this committee certainly won't have

Starting point is 01:16:33 many resources to work with. Would they be in charge of Gaza's security? So it seems to likely play a role, though we really don't have any clarity. Right now, the Hamas civilian police, armed with guns, have returned to the streets. And these Hamas policemen have been in deadly shootouts already with some past. Palestinian clans, which are essentially armed gangs. So the security situation is very volatile. Now, Egypt says it's training about 5,000 new Palestinian policemen for Gaza.

Starting point is 01:17:05 This training has been taking place in recent weeks in Egypt. It's not clear when these new policemen might come to Gaza and if Hamas will accept this new authority. Yeah. Well, of course, it behooves no one for this to actually stick or improve, not in the media, for sure. We want this to fail. Yeah, they want it to fail, of course. And I'm sure there's rough waters ahead. There's no doubt about it.

Starting point is 01:17:32 You know, you got Hamas executing people on the street. They made a big deal out of that. Yeah, and they also made a big deal out of it being 33. Oh, I didn't hear that part. I did. Did you get it? Did you get it? No, I didn't get it, but I figured, yeah, it's just, you know,

Starting point is 01:17:51 it's just another 30. Well, here's the CNN report. In the middle of a public square in Gaza City, eight bound and blindfolded men are dragged out and forced to kneel. One by one, armed Hamas militants take up their positions behind them. Very graphic, this. Aiming rifles at their heads before opening fire. All eight men fall to the ground, executed.

Starting point is 01:18:21 This is part of the grim reality of post-ceasefire Gaza, as Hamas forces say they are carrying out a, quote, comprehensive security operation to root out those they accuse of collaborating with Israel. With these bodies, Hamas also reestablishing the element of fear it has used to rule Gaza for years, as it looks to reassert its dominance over a decimated Gaza strip. Amid its ceasefire with Israel, Hamas is now put. putting on a show of force in Gaza streets, attacking other armed groups, from gangs backed by Israel to powerful clans that have a history of clashing with Hamas. The Dormush clan, which denies collaborating with Israel,

Starting point is 01:19:06 has accused Hamas of killing nearly 30 members of its family in the last week. U.S. Central Command, which is monitoring the ceasefire, urging Hamas to immediately suspend violence and shooting at innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza. And of course, now the question is, what will we protest? Well, we got the no kings. I have a little clip on the no kings. We just protest not having a king.

Starting point is 01:19:35 Okay, let's do that. If you have noticed, the news cycle over the last week has been even worse than before. It just seems to be escalating. And I truly believe it's partly because they're seeing how many marches are being organized all around the country. and around the world on October 18th. They are lashing out in fear because they see all the opposition from people. The fact that they cannot gaslight the world into thinking, into believing that Portland is a war zone on fire because they are now dancing frogs, dancing unicorns, dancing eagles outside the ice facility.

Starting point is 01:20:21 And even the Oregon National Guard is there to protect the peaceful protesters and not the ICE agents says a lot. They are lashing out because they're not getting what they want. They are terrified because there are more of us than they are of them. And more people are waking up and saying that they are against this regime. So this week, try to find some things. that brings you calm, recharges your energy because we need all of our voices together on October 18th, No King's Day.

Starting point is 01:21:02 Okay. So this is obviously a Marxist move by the Socialist Workers Party and whatever else. World's Workers. World's Workers Party. When you say regime, you're a comrade. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, regime is a code word.

Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah. But this is what I'm somewhat concerned about. They are really going nuts in these cities. Well, I'm not seeing it that bit. I don't think it's that bad. I think they're humiliating themselves. Well, we'll see. They can be violent.

Starting point is 01:21:41 We saw it with BLM. Well, yeah, but that's always been true. We saw it with BLM. Let's play this clip. This is the one TikTok clip that I have on here, which is talk, I think it's lefty Gaza Trump clip. No, I will not be celebrating that Donald Trump ended the war in Gaza because he didn't. If anybody deserves to be recognized and praised for their efforts in ending this conflict,

Starting point is 01:22:03 which is still not entirely ended, it is the people of Palestine. The people of Palestine have relentlessly fought for decades for liberation to still not entirely have it. So no, I will not be praising Donald Trump or his administration for ending the war. ending the conflict, getting the ceasefire deal, because it wasn't him. It was not Donald Trump that did this. It was the perseverance and the persistence of the Palestinian people that got us to where we are, that got them to where they are. It is their efforts, their loss, their pain, their struggles that have got them to this point.

Starting point is 01:22:50 So no, I will not be acknowledging or giving any type of credit to Donald Trump and his administration because they don't deserve it. The people who deserve credit and love and support are those of Palestine, those who have truly fought for liberation, those who have truly fought for their families, their people, not Donald Trump. Oh, brother. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. On TikTok. Look at me. Oh, yeah. I'm taking a stand. Why are you producing it? Why are you taking a clip and then putting a musical bed under it? Because I'm, look at me. Martin Scorsese.

Starting point is 01:23:25 I mean, what do you think you are? I'm producing. I'm a producer, man. I'm a creator. I'm a creator. I create. It's what I do. And when I create, I create against the orange man.

Starting point is 01:23:35 I create. That's what I'm doing. Haven't you heard of social media? Haven't you heard of short form video? Everyone's loving it. It's where it's at, man. You dinosaur. What are you thinking?

Starting point is 01:23:46 Lincoln? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a new, you know, we play the old J.D. Vance, the original retardo clip.

Starting point is 01:24:02 Yes. Well, he's got a new one. Is this something he's making in posting or is this just someone? I really don't think he's making these. Okay. To my illegal alien amigos in the city of L. Chicago, please go back to your casita El Governor Pritzker

Starting point is 01:24:20 As Mucho Retardo He can't protect O you If you stay in El Chicago You will be arrestedo and deporto back to your shit holio Gracias amigos Oh and when you come back legally Make sure you Elvoto for LJD Vanceo

Starting point is 01:24:35 Mucha gracias Long live Sora too It'll be short live But we'll enjoy it while it's here For sure So then, although I think the only person really doing a lot with this is Jesse Waters, but, you know, I tried to clip him. He did like 10 minutes on this.

Starting point is 01:24:56 Well, the problem with clipping Jesse, because I've done it on the show, is that he's, he does too many asides to be, you know, he tries to be personable when he does this bit. So instead of just doing a straight up presentation, he's, he wanders. Just enough that you have to keep clipping it out. Very annoying to edit him. Not doable. So instead I have...

Starting point is 01:25:21 It is doable. It's just the pin of the ass. Yes. So Tulsi Gabbard, she is buckling down, bearing down, and calling it out as a traitorous conspiracy. The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability. The American people not only deserve the truth. accountability. When we look at the future of our country as a Democratic Republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, that the

Starting point is 01:25:56 will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans, this is literally what is at stake here. So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action. No one, no matter who they are, no matter how high up they are or how powerful they may be, no matter who the intelligence officials or professionals were who were a part of this treasonous conspiracy, there must be accountability, the truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our Democratic Republic for the sake of the future of our country. I'm not a lawyer. We're referring all of this to the Department of Justice. I know that

Starting point is 01:26:43 Attorney General Pambondi is committed to bringing about justice to those who have broken the law. And in this case, again, what these documents detail, to me, in my view, cannot be explained as anything but a treasonous conspiracy. This is not so different from what we saw under George W. Bush, when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our... Now that I'm hearing this, thank you for reminding me that when we listen to things instead of watching them, we catch more. When she brings up the treasonous conspiracy of George W. Bush,

Starting point is 01:27:27 the analog there is Britain. The analog is all over the place. Because it was the Brits who also were pushing weapons of mass destruction. The Brits, the Brits, the Brits. And the same thing here. Steel, the Brits, MI6. Burge W. Bush, when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our country, that changed the lives

Starting point is 01:27:56 of so many people like myself who went and served in those wars, the implications of manufactured intelligence are real. I would even say that what we are seeing here has an even greater impact than what we've seen in the past because it speaks again to the foundation of our Constitution and our Democratic Republic, which is why accountability is so critical. I don't like for some, why does it grate me when she says our Democratic Republic? Because it's a constitutional republic. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know why she says that. I don't like it. He's a Democrat. Oh, yes, of course. Well, and then of course, President Trump just went on

Starting point is 01:28:35 and on and on about this, calling out everybody. Oh, we're going to get everybody. And I hope that everybody's, you know, they're involved in it. I'm not, I'm the one that had to suffer through it and ultimately win. But what they did was criminal. Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. And I noticed his interviewer was, I think. Notice how smart he is? He could be a podcaster, in my opinion.

Starting point is 01:28:59 He slips it in there, so it's not libelous. So he's in my opinion. He's very good. Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. and I noticed his interviewer was, I think that was Weissman. And I hope they're going to look into Weissman, too. Weissman's a bad guy. And he had somebody in Lisa, who was his puppet, worked in the office really as the top person.

Starting point is 01:29:25 And I think that she should be looked at very strongly. There was tremendous criminal activity having to do it. If we don't have fair elections in this country, we're not going to have a country. And I've said it from the beginning, fair election. elections and borders. And we need also fair press. Because if you don't have fair press, it's very tough. They have committed massive political crime. I hope they're looking at shifty shift. I hope they're looking at all these people. And I'm allowed to find out. I'm allowed to, you know, I'm in theory, the chief law enforcement officer. But I have a very good and talented

Starting point is 01:30:00 group. This is about something else. But I hope they're looking at political crime because there's never been so much political crime against a political opponent as what I had to go through. They raided my house in Florida. It was an illegal raid. I have a lawsuit that was doing very well. And when I became president, I said, I'm sort of suing myself. I don't know. How do you settle the lawsuit? I'll say, give me X dollars, right? And I don't know what to do with the lawsuit. It's a great lawsuit. And now I want it. It's sort of looks bad. I'm suing myself, right? I'm suing myself. But that was a lawsuit. I love it when he lose. I love it. I love it. It was a great lawsuit, but I got how many X dollars I'm going to get myself?

Starting point is 01:30:39 It's a great lawsuit, but I can't do it. I can't sue myself. A suit that was very strong, very powerful. They raided illegally my house in Florida, Mar-a-Lago. They went through the drawers of my young son. They went through all of the cabinets and drawers of the first lady. She walked in, she said, wow, what happened? This is where video would be helpful.

Starting point is 01:31:01 I just like to see them going through her drawer. Yeah, Melania's drawers. She's very meticulous, and this wasn't so meticulous as she looked into the drawers and she saw everything a mess. It's just what they did against the person that just got out of office. So he goes on and on and on. And I think it's getting to some Democrats because Pelosi, she lost it on the steps of the Capitol.

Starting point is 01:31:29 And if you saw that, some reporter. Mike Lindell's TV. Yes, Lindel TV. The girl who does this, she's pretty funny. And I don't know if you saw the whole clip, but... No. Well, at the end, she turns to the camera and gives a shit. Yeah, okay, that's the best part.

Starting point is 01:31:46 She gives the grin, yeah. Big grin. But Pelosi, I just love this. It's short. Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day? why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th? Thank you, Matt.

Starting point is 01:32:07 Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The President didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist? The American people want to know we still have questions. Thank you. I just love. Shut up.

Starting point is 01:32:21 That's just the best. I mean, she's off. Shut up. Shut up. She's mad. Now she's over the hill. She's blood. it. But by the way, since you played some of these clips about this, you know, these threats

Starting point is 01:32:37 that they're going to go after this guy, they're going to do nothing. The Republicans never do anything. They don't, there's no shift is going to be fine. I mean, maybe they all get a little nervous. No one gets one guy who's got indicted, Comey for some, you know, he got indicted for a good reason and it's probably a open, shut case. And Letitia James, which seems like an easy one, because she's like basically looks seems to be corrupt but that's it where's all the Comer stuff

Starting point is 01:33:09 about oh we've tracked all bank accounts to Hunter Biden's laptops and we've put into pieces together our connecting all that nothing's come of it where's Arctic Frost and Arctic Frost and they're all bitching about it every time Holly's on a show

Starting point is 01:33:25 or there's two or three of these senators that are complaining bitterly constantly but it doesn't mean anything They gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, and that's about all that you get out of the Republican Party. Well, that's a disappointing thing to hear. Well, you know it, and I know, but where's the fun in that? Where's the fun? Yeah, there is no fun.

Starting point is 01:33:48 They're just a bunch of softies. And then Pam Bondi, give me a break. Well, I mean, there's more memes. I'll put some memes in the next newsletter about, you know, they have more than one Pam Bondi. doll with, you know, she's sitting there behind a desk with a bunch of stuff she doesn't want to look at. So something odd happened. I got a clip from the clip custodian.

Starting point is 01:34:15 And he sends me, he said, this is an old clip. And he sent it to me in context of a couple other clips that I'm going to play. But I had just clip this myself. And I guess it was a rerun, which is surprising. that it ran again on on the news and I got it from KREM in South Carolina and he had the original from WYFF in South Carolina. I think they're both NBC affiliates. And so I'll play this clip and then I'll which means it'll I think it'll make sense when I play the other clips. It's just interesting that he dug this up and said this is an old clip.

Starting point is 01:35:01 but it makes sense in context of these other clips, which is a predictive programming. So the recycling news for some reason. Yes, for some reason. There is growing concern over a measles outbreak in South Carolina and whether misinformation about vaccines is making it worse. Health officials have now confirmed 16 cases in that state since July and dozens of students are quarantining at home right now.

Starting point is 01:35:24 Christian Benevides has more from South Carolina. Measel's cases are on the rallies, forcing nearly 140 unvaccinated students in two South Carolina schools to stay home for three weeks after they were exposed to the virus. Parents Chandler and Emma Gordon are expecting baby number three in April. While they and their boys are vaccinated, the recent measles outbreak has made them extra careful. We're a little cautious knowing a newborn coming into this doesn't have the opportunity to be vaccinated or protected against measles. The highly contagious virus spreads through the air. and can linger for up to two hours.

Starting point is 01:36:02 Symptoms can include high fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and a rash. The virus can also cause severe infections, especially in kids under five. It's very concerning. We have never had this big of an outbreak, especially in such a short amount of time. Dr. Ashley Gardner works at Parkside Pediatrics

Starting point is 01:36:20 in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Having you seen changes in parents in recent years? We had the miscommunications that can happen. and sometimes need to decrease in vaccine rates. And it's our job as doctors in order to help give truth and point them to hopefully having the best medical decision possible. The measles vaccine is safe and effective, according to this case.

Starting point is 01:36:42 Nationwide measles cases are at a more than three-decade high, while vaccination rates among kindergartners have been trending downwards in recent years. Measles is so contagious that it means a very, very high level of vaccination in order to achieve that herd immunity. And so if it dips down at all, there's the risk for this highly contagious virus spreading very quickly. So this next clip, I will play for the benefit of our ever-growing Gen Z contingent who tune in to their uncles to learn some stuff. And I'm going to resurrect the clip that you brought probably about a year ago, I think, of the Brady Bunch, which I watched as a kid growing up. You watched as a teenager growing up, the Brady Bunch, a great sitcom to a mom.

Starting point is 01:37:28 had three daughters. Dad had three boys. They married. They got a housekeeper. It's a fun little sitcom. And the Brady Bunch gets the measles. Here's how we talked about measles when we were kids back in the ice age. Hi. Peter. What are you doing home from school? They sent me home. Measles. Now see, their measles are a strange case of red freckles. You have got a temperature. They told me. 101.1. What's the record? Never mind. Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms.

Starting point is 01:38:02 A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile. A great big smile. No school for a few days. Pay hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him, I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear. Okay, honey, bye. Boy, this is the life, isn't it? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:16 If you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine. Inside or out. Like shots, I mean. Don't even mention shots. Yuck! Measels?

Starting point is 01:38:28 Measles, Measles. Well, all the kids have now had the measles. So have I. Well, I had them years ago. Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles. Hold it. You're not through yet.

Starting point is 01:38:47 Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles. Oh, I hope so. I'd hate to think I was just learning out of blush at my age. So that's how we thought about this very, same disease, measles when we were kids. You had spots in a big smile on your face. You got to stay home. You got to read comic books.

Starting point is 01:39:06 You got ice cream. And it was better than getting a needle. No, we'd rather have measles. Now we move forward in time to 2025. The Emmy Award winning, multiple Emmy award winning HBO series, The Pit. Have you seen The Pit? I know about The Pit.

Starting point is 01:39:28 It's a hot show. It's a very hot show, and here is their Brady Bunch version of The Measles. We have a septic 13-year-old with pneumonia. I just intubated, and Ceptriaxone is on board. Patsy consolidation, maybe some nodules. Could be viral pneumonia with or without bacterial superinfection. Kids got a weird rash, too. Oh, and it's macula, popular on the legs.

Starting point is 01:39:54 Pretty faded on the neck and chest. starting to desk roommate You ever see anything like this before? Nope Neither Well that just goes to show you how old I am This looks like measles Meas?

Starting point is 01:40:09 Holy shit Any travel history He wasn't able to talk before you intubated But measles is super contagious It's not contagious if it's resolving We need more history Where are the parents Oh they're at the movies

Starting point is 01:40:21 I'm sure they're phones off But he came in with his little sister We can talk to her What theater? I don't know. Chen, try every theater. It's got to be over. Start with the ones closest to where they live.

Starting point is 01:40:31 We need to find those parents and call public health. Tell them we might have a measles outbreak. Oh, no! Oh, no! We've got a measles outbreak. Oh, no! Oh, I've seen this before. I'm so old.

Starting point is 01:40:40 It's the measles. Let's have the parents argue about shots and stuff and doing things. Oh, no, it's the measles. How did Flynn get measles? From his sister. Hi. I'm Dr. Robbie. George A's fine.

Starting point is 01:40:52 She's in our staff room. She's the one who actually called 911-1-1 and probably saved her brother's life. Called 9-1-1 because he had the measles. Georgia was sick, but she got better on her own quickly. Yeah. Many people get better on their own like Georgia. However, as many as one in 20 kids that get measles, get pneumonia like your son. Are your children vaccinated against measles?

Starting point is 01:41:10 No. The MMR vaccine is perfectly safe. Measles is... And effective. Not. We're concerned about inflammation and possible damage to Flynn's brain and spinal cord. The measles got to his brain? Well, his headsy tea was normal, but the only way to find out if he's okay,

Starting point is 01:41:26 to perform a lumbar puncture. The measles got to... Oh, God. The measles got to his brain. We have to do a lumbar function. Make sure you get that beeping noise. Keep on going in the background. A spinal tap.

Starting point is 01:41:38 I've read about kids who've been paralyzed from a spinal tap. There is zero risk of paralysis. What about bleeding or infection? It's a perfectly safe procedure. We do it every day. We need spinal fluid to see if Flynn has acute disseminated encephal myelitis. Then if he does,

Starting point is 01:41:53 we treat with high-dose steroids to decrease the risk of blindness, deafness, intellectual disability, even death. He could die from this? The death rate from Atom is high, one in five. Do the spinal tap. No! Can't you just give him steroids without the spinal tap?

Starting point is 01:42:10 If there's no Atom, the steroids could suppress his immune system, making it harder to fight off the pneumonia. What it says here... Can you put your damn phone away? Hey, hey, don't be doing your own research, lady. Your son is critically ill. The longer that we wait, the higher the risk of permanent brain damage. What is not clear here?

Starting point is 01:42:28 Hillary, he has a tube down his throat. They're not a poking holes in my son's spine. Wow. Oh, man. How could this end? What are you doing? You said she didn't want to be in the room. I was getting Georgia something to eat.

Starting point is 01:42:46 Wait outside. Stop what you're doing right now. No, they're almost done. I can't believe you went behind my back. I did what was. best for Flynn, not for you. Take that needle out of his back. No.

Starting point is 01:42:59 Yes. Ma'am, I don't want to have to ask you to leave. Take it out right now. Yep. Coming out. All done. My son is leaving this hospital. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:43:23 She really is a good mom. I mean, come on. This is insane. The propaganda of this. And they get all the Emmys? They won a lot of awards. It's structured well, yeah. Oh, that's just crazy.

Starting point is 01:43:47 And it's shameful. I'd say it's just shameful that they would run storylines like that. And did the Brady Bunch ever win an Emmy? I sure deserve it. No, I don't think so. That was the golden era of sitcom, so this was pretty hard to win anything. Yeah, happy days.

Starting point is 01:44:10 Wasn't happy days. Happy days was the same time. Kung Fu. Kung Fu. Yeah, Kung Fu. Grasshopper. It's time when you snatch the pebbles from my hand. Ah, these were good times.

Starting point is 01:44:22 Love boat. Come on, man. These were good. shows. He were wholesome shows. You stayed at home and watched with your family and we loved it. Those days are over. Yeah, we just doom scroll. Doom scroll. Oh, look.

Starting point is 01:44:36 Look at the eagle. Look at the eagle. He picked up the baby. My favorite. And the mom. So we also have we have since we're talking to doom scroller. One of our producers sent me this. It was a doom scroller. He knows who he is. Oh. This guy's a

Starting point is 01:44:52 comedy. He's not a comedian. He's a satirist, I think. And he's the name's Josh Sider, I think is how you pronounce it. And he does these takeoffs on different people. And this is kind of a takeoff on this, on this character. We've all seen on TikTok videos or they pass it around. She gets around, she, he, they, them. I don't know who it is.

Starting point is 01:45:15 This Lily, a Tino person who's always being misgendered. And she's in restaurants and she's always getting free stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me, excuse me, what did you call me? Yeah, I want them. I don't have to leave. I don't feel, my favorite Lily thing is it's always the same bit. She says, he called me, sir, and then he did correct it to ma'am, but I don't feel safe.

Starting point is 01:45:42 Yes. You don't feel safe. Don't feel safe here. I don't feel safe here. I've got to go. So this is Josh, this is Josh, who's also played a, a trans illegal immigrant. But this is his latest bit, and I think it's hilarious. Guys, it happened again.

Starting point is 01:46:02 I was out minding my own business, not bothering anybody, and I got mispigmented. I was at the dollar tree. I was picking up some wave caps for the 360 waves I'm growing out. And this guy behind me is like, I didn't know white guys needed those things. And I said, excuse me, bigot? Did you just dead skin me? And he's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, what am I talking about?

Starting point is 01:46:30 I was assigned white at birth by a doctor, but I identify as a black man. And this whole time, the cashier's just kind of standing there. And I'm like, are you not going to say anything to this racist? She's like, sir, he's an actual black man. I said, actual black man, do you understand how harmful those words are to trans-pigmented people like me? you know and it's just like how many black identifying white guys are going to have to suffer until people just start doing the right thing and affirming our identity um so the cashier is like sir you can either finish checking out or just leave and i'm like you keep calling me sir but i identify as a woman and she's like i am so sorry ma'am and so i ended up getting like 50% off my order um so anyways i'm just really frustrated. Let me know what you guys think in the comments. Peace. Well, that brings me to a clip that I was tipped off,

Starting point is 01:47:35 who was tipped off to by the former New York banker said, did you see the stats that are going around? I said, no, what's that? And I found a clip of said stats. In a shift from recent trends, new data suggests that the number of young people identifying as transgender or non-binary has declined sharply. According to findings from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, Fire, which surveyed more than 60,000 undergraduate students across the United States. The share of respondents identifying as a gender other than male or female has fallen by nearly half over the past two years, from 6.8% in 2022 to 2023 to just 3.6% this year. The decline appears most pronounced at elite universities, where some campuses

Starting point is 01:48:18 report in drops of up to 70%. While the reasons behind the shift remain unclear, analysts point to a of cultural and political factors, including evolving public attitudes toward gender identity and heightened debate over related issues, such as women's sports and public accommodations. Whatever the cause, it appears as though this trendy social contagion may be heading toward remission. 50%? Wow. Wow.

Starting point is 01:48:45 There's hope. There's light at the end of the tunnel. Except for the people who got mutilated. Well, yeah. No, that's bad, of course. Of course. We've been following a pig butchering for, what, a couple of years now? At least.

Starting point is 01:49:04 And I've taken in the, because especially the mercy me guys, they're always laughing. They're always sending me the, because they always goad these scammers. And they're always like, hey, I'm Alice or Kim or whatever. Yeah, the goading the scammers is fun. Yeah, but when you hear about, you know, these are slaves basically being, whipped because they haven't gotten enough money out of these poor slubs who fall for this time and time again. And then the Department of Justice released a statement about they rolled up one of these big pig butchering scams and here's the report. The DOJ says it seized a staggering

Starting point is 01:49:44 $15 billion in Bitcoin from a global pig butchering scam. The agency says it's the largest forfeiture in U.S. history. Federal prosecutors charged Chin U. G, a Cambodian tycoon known as Vincent, accusing him of running crypto fraud compounds where traffic workers were beaten and forced to scam victims online. G's Prince Holding Group allegedly pulled in up to $30 million in a day, laundering stolen crypto through secret wallets. The FBI says the bust marks, quote, one of the largest financial fraud takedowns ever. Gee remains at large. $15 billion. That's a business.

Starting point is 01:50:24 Yes. That's a business. Yeah, just whip some slaves, $15 billion. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. It remains at large. Vincent. Vincent, yeah.

Starting point is 01:50:39 Vincent. And then we have the ongoing blowing boats out of the water. Yeah, I guess he blew another one up. Yeah, the fifth one. And here's the president with some statistics of his own. Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control. We've had a couple of days where there isn't a boat to be found. And I view that as a good thing, not a bad thing.

Starting point is 01:51:07 But we had tremendous amounts coming in by boats, by very expensive boats. You know, they have a lot of money, very fast, very expensive boats that were pretty big. And the way you look at it is every boat that we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives. So every time you see a boat and you feel badly, you say, wow, that's rough. It is rough. But if you lose three people and save 25,000 people, these are people that are killing our population. Every boat is saving 25,000 lives. And you can see it.

Starting point is 01:51:37 The boats get hit. And you see that fentanyl all over the ocean. It's like floating in bags. It's all over the place. And it's a tremendous, we're saving tremendous amounts of lives. I don't know where he gets to 25,000. and lives saved or created from. I don't get that either.

Starting point is 01:51:54 And most of those boats are headed to Europe or they're headed to a transfer point to go to, no, they're, most of the, it's been documented largely that the, that the Venezuelans are a transfer point for cocaine through the, through the various islands to ending up in Europe. Oh, okay. Oh, that's different. I thought you were saying these boats were going to Europe. No, the boats can't get that far. Ah, okay.

Starting point is 01:52:16 But the, no, the Venezuelan drugs, well, it's a transfer point for. for Colombian and other cocaine suppliers. Well, this makes total sense. Now it, thank you. Now it makes sense. This is Trump hitting out at the North Sea nexus. Like, no, we're not going to let you even get your drugs to launder all that money through the port of Rotterdam.

Starting point is 01:52:38 Now it makes sense. Well, using it from that perspective, I guess it gives it a different angle. Yeah. Yeah. Like, no, you're not going to get, I'm not going to let you transport your drugs. drug money and drugs to get money and fund whatever you're doing over there? No.

Starting point is 01:52:56 Yeah, and it's not fentanyl. No, it's not fentanyl. I don't think you said fentanyl, did he? Yes, he did. He said fentanyl very specifically. No, it's not fentanyl. Here's a longer ABC report, and a lot of politicians are very outraged by this, which I find puzzling. This morning, President Trump considering U.S. strikes on Venezuelan soil to combat drug cartels. Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land. now because we've got the C very well under control. The president also escalating U.S. operations against Venezuela's authoritarian leader, Nicolas Maduro, Trump confirming he's authorized covert CIA action in the country.

Starting point is 01:53:35 But when asked if the agency has the authority to take out Maduro, Trump, noncommittal. But I think Venezuela is feeling heat. In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation. By the way, I don't think that president actually said that he has authorized. the CIA? I think this is something that is... He never he didn't. He didn't. They're just putting the... They're piecing the

Starting point is 01:53:59 they're putting together what they think is connecting the dots. Exactly. And then they throw in a little not-pop quote of him saying, I think they're feeling the heat. It's very interesting that they're doing this. Trump, non-committal. But I think Venezuela is feeling heat. In a statement overnight, Venezuela

Starting point is 01:54:15 accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation to access the country's oil resources. saying they would bring up the matter at the U.N. Security Council today. It comes after the U.S. carried out its fifth deadly strike on an alleged drug boat off the coast of Venezuela, Trump posting this video on social media, saying six male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed in the strike. The Trump administration's operation in the Caribbean first began in early September and has drawn fierce condemnation from democratic lawmakers who say the strikes risk getting the U.S. into a full-fledged war.

Starting point is 01:54:51 There's lots of people who have been designated terrorists that does not automatically give the authority to take lethal action. Asked why he's striking the boats instead of using traditional Coast Guard operations, where officers can verify who is on the boat, Trump saying the Coast Guard boats are too slow. They have faster boats. Some of these boats are seriously, I mean, they're world-class speedboats, but they're not faster than missiles. So far, the administration has provided limited details. and no evidence to prove that the 27 people killed or attempting to traffic drugs to the U.S. as they claim.

Starting point is 01:55:28 So there's a one in four chance. This is Rand Paul. All of a sudden they throw him in and why is he all mad about stuff now? To traffic drugs to the U.S. as they claim. So there's a one in four chance, statistically speaking, that one of these boats may not have had any drugs on it. We will never know because they were blown to smithereens. In a memo obtained by ABC News earlier this month, the administration told Congress that America is in a formal armed conflict and that drug cartels are deemed unlawful combatants.

Starting point is 01:56:02 Again, that's a memo that you send to Congress when you're invoking some kind of warpower. This is done continuously, but they make it sound like it's just, he just dashed off a memo and said, thank you for your attention to this matter. Yeah. Now, the Venezuelan government has repeatedly denounced the U.S. strike, saying they are, quote, a pure violation of international. international rights, Maduro, calling them, quote, aggression all down the line. But U.S. officials accused Maduro of facilitating drug trafficking from Venezuela, a claim he denies. Hmm.

Starting point is 01:56:33 Now, the whole CIA thing they bring in is interesting. I'm not sure exactly why they're doing that. Probably some coded stuff we don't get. Possibly. I have a few clips here on, I think it's a public service. Okay. And this is the about, you know, about the protein fad. Oh, yes.

Starting point is 01:57:04 Didn't we have some clips on this about the Kardashians and popcorn protein and everyone's talking protein this and protein that? Yeah. Yeah, I think we did in the past, but this is kind of a, from consumer, This was consumer reports doing some research and determining that most of the protein powders and stuff you get are so loaded with lead. Why? Why is lead in there?

Starting point is 01:57:30 They never explain why the lead is in there, but most of it's probably a function of the extraction process or they, I don't know. Wow. Maybe there's a chemist out there that knows how this is done. But this is a, and they soft pedal, this on NPR, they soft pedal. They soft peddled it a little bit, but anyone who, and I don't do this, I'm not a, I figure a couple of pieces of steak or lamb chops or a pork chop. Mine give you some protein that you need, yeah. I think you get your protein from that cheese has got a lot of protein in it.

Starting point is 01:58:03 There's a lot of product out there. You don't have to add protein powder to do everything. So, but listen to this. This is a, this is a, I consider this a public service for us to play these clips. on this show. Americans are obsessed with protein. What once was more of a niche interest has gone thoroughly mainstream. Just check your local grocery store.

Starting point is 01:58:26 Beef jerky, protein boosted milk and yogurts, even soon protein pop-tarts and Doritos. And of course, there are tons of protein powders. They're commonly made from way, which is derived from milk or from pea protein. And according to a consumer reports analysis, they likely contain something else. Toxic heavy metals, especially lead. Woo!

Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah. All right. NPR is doing this as a public service as well, I guess. I think so. This is a fascinating. This is, of course, one of their, you know, separate things. It's not part of their daily news, but I'm sure they'll play it a few times. But this is, to me, frightening, because lead is one of the worst time.

Starting point is 01:59:10 I mean, it's a cumulative product. Did you get lead salts in? Yes, cumulative. it causes all kinds of neurological problems. Like radiation. It stacks up. It makes you sick and it makes you dumb. What?

Starting point is 01:59:26 Sorry, I was too busy licking paint. Part two. Investigative reporter at Paris Martin. What is this happening? You have your way off balance. You've got right channel only. I don't, I didn't

Starting point is 01:59:43 send it that way. Oh, yes, you did. Okay, yeah, it happened over here. I'm sorry. I have to look at it. I'm going to go back and download these. Again, I read download them and take a look and see how you got that. But here we go.

Starting point is 01:59:58 Investigative reporter Paris Martino joins us now to share what they've learned. Okay, so first of all, I have to confess that I am one of those Americans that is obsessed with protein. I actually had some protein powder in my smoothie this morning. So this is personal. Well, do I need to throw out my protein powder? Like, how alarmed should consumers be? Yeah, there's no reason for anyone to panic. What we basically found is we tested 23 popular protein powders and shakes.

Starting point is 02:00:27 And we found that for more than two-thirds of the products that we analyzed, a single serving of them contained more lead than what our food safety experts say is safe to consume in a day. Some of the products had more than 10 times the level that our experts say is safe. That sounds bad. I mean, it's not good, I will say that. I didn't even know that there was a recommended dosage of lead on a daily basis. I would think I want no lead? Yeah, you want no lead, but there's a recommended minimum that you can tolerate, they believe.

Starting point is 02:00:56 And you have more than that, you're exceeding consumption of lead that your body really can have. And they're talking about 10x. And that's just in one serving. And these people that are protein nuts are listening to them five servings a day, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, which it counts as far as I can tell. I think this may be accounting for the septum rings and the funny makeup and the Democrats and screaming on TikTok. There you go. Given that, some of the products we tested are fine to have occasionally, and even the ones with the highest lead levels are far below the concentration needed to cause immediate harm. The real risk with lead is, even if you were exposed to kind of low levels consistently, over time, that lead could kind of build up in the body and eventually cause problems farther down the

Starting point is 02:01:48 line. So I'd say the advice is more scrutinize your protein shakes and take a look at what you're using to make an informed decision rather than immediately freak up. And maybe it sounds layoff. I mean, in the sense of like not having it every day or not having it three times a day. That's one of the things that surprised me personally reporting out the story is like you and like many Americans. I was like really worried that I wasn't getting enough protein. totally bought into the protein mania. But talking to nutrition experts and researchers in protein, the thing I heard again and again is for the average person, you can very easily get all the protein you need from

Starting point is 02:02:26 eating whole foods. And it doesn't make much sense to turn towards protein supplements. So do you have any, before we get to the last clip or do you have any information on the effects of too much lead? I mean, do you really think that this could lead to errant behavior? and posting on TikTok? Yeah, absolutely. Well, that doesn't give me a lot of information.

Starting point is 02:02:50 You can, here, you've got your robot there. We haven't talked to her all day. Oh, yes. Let's talk to the robot. Ask her about what are some of the effects of lead poisoning and what, we got to get her to talk about the, can it change your, well, just ask her about lead poisoning in general. Okay.

Starting point is 02:03:09 Okay. Error. What are some of these symptoms that people will show mentally from lead poisoning? Mental symptoms from lead poisoning can include irritability, anxiety, depression, and confusion. You might also see memory problems, trouble concentrating, or even hallucinations in severe cases. Kids could act hyperactive or have learning delays. It's sneaky. Those effects build up slowly if exposure's ongoing. Hmm. Error. Could it turn you into a rabid lunatic Democrat?

Starting point is 02:03:50 No. Lead poisoning won't turn anyone into a rabid lunatic Democrat. Oh, please. You're biased. Shut up. She is biased. That is a very biased bot. And by the way, how many emails did you get about the black patenter of the airplane? I only got two. Oh, I got several. I got several. yeah it turns out the airplane was just a balloon yes two balloons moving forward in flight yeah so it wasn't really much of an airplane but okay yeah the error had it wrong then really she should have been she should have clarified so you're right error is a stooge

Starting point is 02:04:29 in the democrat party that's right error is a stooge all right final clip of the bad bad protein fad so you said you tested 23 powders and pre-made shakes. How did you decide to test those products? We worked with kind of a market research team within Consumer Reports to identify some of the best-selling protein powders and shakes available at a variety of different brands from places like Amazon or Walmart, but also kind of, we also bought some of the shakes in person at health food stores or supermarkets. And then we took those, made sure that we got a couple different samples of each product that represented at least two, I guess two to three different lots of the product and then sent them off to the lab to be analyzed. So people can go and check your

Starting point is 02:05:19 reporting to see if their products were tested, but broadly, are there certain types of protein products that are more likely to have lead and other toxic metals in them? Yeah. So generally speaking, plant-based protein products emerged as a point of concern. Like nearly all of the plant-based products we had, we tested had elevated lead levels. The lead levels we found in plant-based protein products were on average nine times the amount found in those made of like dairy proteins, like whey, and twice as great as beef-based proteins. When it came to, I guess, the protein powders and shakes made with way or dairy-based proteins, those generally had the lowest amounts of lead, but still half the products we tested

Starting point is 02:06:01 had had high enough levels of contamination that are experts advise against taking them daily. Paris Marano, investigative reporter for Consumer Reports. Thank you so much. Wow. Well, of course, it's so wild. The irony here is that the vegans, yes, eat the plant-based stuff because they can't have way. Yes, and it's even worse.

Starting point is 02:06:24 That's even worse, which makes nothing but sense. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the treasonous conspiracy, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeBoerreis. Yeah, in the morning, Mr. Adam, Crane, Mr. Ship, C, buts on the ground feet in the air. In the water, James and nights out there. In the morning to the trolls, in the troll room, we count your trolls, hold on a second. Figured that would happen.

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Starting point is 02:08:44 we also have people who send us artwork and create artwork, and we were very delighted with the art that we chose for episode 1807. We titled as Keyboard Warrior. Nessworks did a great piece, which we are pretty sure was not 100% AI, if at all. And it was a kid backpack and everything in the school.

Starting point is 02:09:09 And right there on the chalkboard, no agenda, learn chalk. And it was just a cute piece. It hit all the buttons for us. I don't think there was any argument at all that that was the winning piece. No, we had some other pieces that we discussed, including it was one that we're supposed to talk about, I don't remember what we're going to... I do, I do.

Starting point is 02:09:34 I had to go but look at it. Unfortunately, I don't have it open. Well, I thought the OG Podfather was great. I liked that one. A black guy. Black guy invented podcast. Oh, the black guy, that was funny. I agree.

Starting point is 02:09:47 That was funny. No, there was one here. Let me see if I can find it. It might be on page two. It was something. Yeah. Um, it's one of our regular. We had a lot of Glenn Beck with the Israeli flag, uh, clothing, which is like, okay.

Starting point is 02:10:07 And we're not doing that. No, um, I don't, I don't remember what I was the zoomers and boomers by Blue Acorn, which also had the blackboard, but it was too small. I don't remember what it was, John. It was something that, I do remember us saying we got a. excoriate someone for that I can't remember what it was yeah well we lost

Starting point is 02:10:33 track of it next time I'm going to write it down well there's a concept yeah oh I know I know what it was it was Darren with with Albert E. Newman oh right right right

Starting point is 02:10:48 which is a very funny piece he had Alfred E. Newman from Mad Magazine being injected and we had a little sign he's a polio pioneer and uh we can't use that and john will explain why it's a licensed trademarked head by fact i one of the i think i may be the first person who licensed it for a book i did in the 80s uh on the mcintosh we got a hold of mad magazine and licensed the alfredi newman character because they'll sue you over this yeah they should and they should and they uh so we got

Starting point is 02:11:24 license to use the L. Fid E. Newman character on a book cover. It was funny. And so we can't use, we can't just casually use Alford E. Newman because obviously the license for that book is not the same as using it for Elmore for the No Agenda show. No. But the funny thing was it, it turns out in discussions with the magazine, the publisher, Gaines, I think, or whoever it was at the time, said no one ever asks the license. Really? Like one of the few people ever. He said, they go after you, yes, but it's not like a popular thing to license. Hmm. Do you remember how much you paid for it?

Starting point is 02:12:02 I think we got it free. Wow. Just for some credit? Yeah. Oh, amazing. I don't remember paying money for it. Hmm. And what was the book?

Starting point is 02:12:14 DeVorex Guide to the Macintosh, I think was the name of it, something like that. Really? I didn't know that you did an actual guide to the Macintosh. Yeah. I thought you were, you hated Max. No, I never hated Macs. I used to have a couple. Oh.

Starting point is 02:12:28 Yeah, but did you really use them? Yeah, it's a good machine. Yeah. What was this bad? I got the reputation for hating him because I was named the anti-editor of Mac user magazine. And I was given the assignment by the Felix Dennis, the billionaire guy owned the place. Was that the fat guy?

Starting point is 02:12:45 To be, no, no, not at all. Thin guy. And he is a, you know, I had to go after, I had to be a counterpoint to everything. so I just bitched and moaned and complained. You took for a check. A paid troll. I was a paid troll in the early days. That's lovely.

Starting point is 02:13:04 Yeah. Well, I have respect. And then everyone got all mad at me. All the time. To this day, they're still irked. See, man, the Mac is a great machine. It's really good. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:13:17 They got new ones coming out. They got new ones coming out. Oh, yeah, that's going to be something. We also want to thank people who support us with the final of the cheese, the treasure. You can go to no agenda donations.com and support the show. We love every amount. We always thank everybody, $50 and above.

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Starting point is 02:14:03 and we'll read your note. And we kick it off. I think Jay didn't understand the strike donation. That was the Bitcoin that I received at the meetup. Oh, you know what? I was going to tell her about that to clarify and I forgot. And I figured something like that happened. So she's like, wow, by the way, when I sent it, it was $1,000. But when I received it, it was $1,000. And then I sent it onto the show. And it went up.

Starting point is 02:14:33 It went up $30. Yes, yes. Winning. 3% increase. So I'll start with our highest executive producer, $550 of $38 from Lube. $15. What did I say? 515 and 38 cents?

Starting point is 02:14:48 What did I say? He said 550. Oh, 515. Lubor Benda, from Uppiche, in Czechoslovakia. Oh, that's cool. Which is very cool. Not cool.

Starting point is 02:14:58 I didn't see a note from Lubor, and I'm presuming Loubor wanted to get in on the final opportunity to become a secretary general, which is ending. Is the next show the last one? The last show, yeah. So you want to get in real quick on that. You pick up on this wonderful item that we have here on QVC.

Starting point is 02:15:22 What did you pick up? What item did you pick up? pick up, Lubor? Oh, I got a Secretary General. Well, congratulations. Let us know what you want to be called and we'll throw you in the ceremony. Double up karma for you. Oh, look at that. John gets the long note. Well, you might as well take this one. Sir, becoming heroic from Sherrillville, Indiana, 510, 17. Long note alert. Sorry, John. This is just not if this is not how you do it. First off, please call me. and the Secretary General of the Carnivore Nation.

Starting point is 02:15:56 Eating this way isn't always easy, but it has been a life-changing in my mind, body and soul. And then he says, last week you guys played a clip about flu jab potentially causing COVID down the road. Well, I guess he has a story here. In November 22, my 84-year-old dad got COVID

Starting point is 02:16:12 and ended up hospitalized for about a week because of dehydration and overall weakness. It can happen with the flu. When COVID was first released, the first couple of weeks, I'd like that. The first couple of weeks was like he was cautious of his movements because of his age and because of a 30-year medicated heart condition he had. After he realized it was a scam, he picked up his car in June 20 and went on a 3,000-mile trek around the country

Starting point is 02:16:37 visiting friends and family along the way, at least the ones that let him in. He was smart enough to avoid the COVID jab and he wasn't licking any door knobs, but he was freely moved through moving throughout life, meeting new people along the way on multiple trips, 20, 21, 22. After his hospitalization, he still went on a couple more short trips, including attending grandkids sporting events throughout the Midwest, but he never went back to 100% of his pre-hospitalization spunk and had a lingering cough. March of 23, he spent the weekend with my son helping teach one of my son's friends

Starting point is 02:17:11 how to shoot at the rain, something he really enjoyed doing. On that Sunday, he went home, went to sleep, and never woke up. As I was going through his affairs, I found a statement from a medical appointment, from October 22 where they offered a flu shot and he received that jab. This is an insinuation. As soon as I read that, I told my wife that the flu... Worthy of a Tucker Carlson show. Right.

Starting point is 02:17:38 As soon as I read that, I told my wife that the flu shot is what killed him. Yes, he was 84 years old with comorbidities, but he was active, had a social life, had kids, grandkids and great-grandkids that he would call and text almost daily to be our biggest cheerleader in life. Wow. Is that the end of the note here? COVID started me down the rabbit hole, but this caused a deep dive on the medical industrial complex.

Starting point is 02:18:05 The more I learn, the more disgust that I become. Anyway, happy anniversary. Thank you. Sorry to hear about that. But yes, that seems plausible. Yeah. Yeah, it does actually, unfortunately. Murray's up.

Starting point is 02:18:19 Douglas Murray. Douglas Murray, but a different Douglas Murray. $240 and 24 cents said this is actually a triple boob donation which is kind of interesting for people out there looking for that. No jingles,

Starting point is 02:18:34 no karma. All right, no jingles, no karma to give. Dame Beth is in Tucson, Arizona, 233.99 Sense, Associate Executive Producership for you. Hile boys. Inviting all Southern Arizona slaves to the happy birthday, agenda meetup on Thursday, October 23rd at 4 p.m.

Starting point is 02:18:52 Oh, is this the newest? Did you note, she sent us a note today, correcting this note? Oh, because it's probably the 26th of October. I don't know. I mean, she sent it to you. Well, and I sent it to Jay. No, this just came in this morning. I know, I know. Oh, five in the morning? Yes. And I sent it to... Oh, you said it to Jay at five in the morning? Yes. Well, okay, well, this is probably the right note. Never mind. Here it is. Forget anything I said.

Starting point is 02:19:18 I will forget everything you said. Here it is. Everything. This is the, uh, no, this is her correction. Oh, okay. I don't want to take a chance. You know, she comes and she's, at 5 in the morning, she's writing in and oh, my God.

Starting point is 02:19:35 I'll cut all this out. No one or no other difference. Here we go. Yeah. And three, two, one, three, two, one. You know, I'm never going to do it. Hi, old boys, inviting all southern Arizona slaves to the happy birthday, no agenda, meet up on Thursday, October 23rd at 4 p.m. on the patio at Canyon's Crown. Yes, there will be cake.

Starting point is 02:19:54 Thank you for your 18 years of courage and deconstruction, says Dame Beth Baroness of Baja, Arizona. Nice. Onward with, we have a note that came in. This is Ron Sherman in Colorado Springs. Came with a row of ducks, a small row of ducks, 2.22.2.2. And a handwritten note. Wow. it's been a couple of crazy minutes hasn't it and i've it's longhand and i've been there for most of them i feel like a graduate of the no agenda institute of higher learning you've helped me see things and then he's got a bunch of stuff scratched out with a i wonder what i wonder what that was i don't know i scratched out with a different point of view anyways and he just spells it anyways which as irksome this donation uh should put me over the top for my knighthood uh accounting accounting

Starting point is 02:20:58 enclosed i would like to prefer to be knighted as sir fungus among us got as far as the roundtable i would like nothing special i am a i have no idea what that word is grazer grazer It's not spelled right. No. I'll just walk around and graze. I said it again. Okay, graze off all the wonderful foods already there, including the mutton and me. No jingles, no karma.

Starting point is 02:21:30 No. See you further on down this super slide. Ronan, Colorado. So I'm not very good at spelling. Well, you got that right. No words. And I'm protecting cursive. He's protecting cursive.

Starting point is 02:21:48 Oh, very good. Which I've learned from one of our boots on the ground, Gen Zers, that Gen Zers, not only can they mainly not write cursive, they also can't read cursive. Neither can we, actually. We're having a hard time. Well, we can't read this cursive, but we read it. We got through it.

Starting point is 02:22:04 You got grazers, the whole thing. Sean Holman, Parts Unknown, 21911. Oh, 21911, there's the 1911 donation. ITM brothers, glory to God, indeed, giving thanks to the Creator for sending the Holy Spirit down last week filled us with fire reference F-bomb Broad 226 show 1807

Starting point is 02:22:25 Oh right Yes that was the F-bomb that I noticed Oh I remember now Okay this is funny He had blessed you to discern the news For us thus showing us things We should be praying for Our Lady of Guadalupe

Starting point is 02:22:40 Pray for us Okay Not Guadalupe No Guadalupe Eli the coffee guy, Bensonville, Illinois. You know him, $20.10.16. I'm drinking my gigawatt, cold, brew coffee, medium roast, premium blend, smooth, tasty, and refreshing as we speak. It has nitro.

Starting point is 02:23:02 Brother. It says right here to shake vigorously to activate. Adam. Does that say that on there? It says, so there's a little, a little, like a... Because I just been opening and I haven't been shaking it vigorously to activate. Big mistake. So there's a little round, like stamp circle on it,

Starting point is 02:23:21 kind of like instant bestseller. And it says, Nitro, shake vigorously to activate. Oh, you didn't know that? Oh, man, you've been getting a bum ride. You've got to activate it. I'm like a bump ride. Adam, it looks like you're railing against the North Sea Nexus is catching on.

Starting point is 02:23:38 In the context of how the last two World War started to quote Tucker. Tucker during his interview with the. The Seed Man, the, the, the one group, it says the, the, the, the one group that doesn't get credit for making the world a worst place is the Brits. Yeah. Good, good. This needs to be catching on. Good. If possible, can I get an Alex Jones jingle?

Starting point is 02:24:10 A lot of producers have reached out inquiring, will we be selling our cans online and shipping them? The answer is yes and soon. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Am I basically a beta tester? Yeah. We're just working out some of the logistics.

Starting point is 02:24:28 But for now, we just get some awesome gigawatt T-shirts and, or we just got some in stock. Visit gigawatt coffee roosters.com and use the code ITM 20 for 20% off your first order. Stay caffeinated, Eli, the coffee guy. That's what I declare a jihad on their ass. There's your Alex Jones. It sounds jingo. Come on. Give him something better than that.

Starting point is 02:24:51 You didn't like that? I actually... No. Okay. Well, I mean, let's see. What do we have? The frogs gay. Oh, well, if we just said that,

Starting point is 02:25:03 Frog's gay. All right. A classic, no agenda. I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay. There you go. That's better. Alex, from Frosty Laurentians, California.

Starting point is 02:25:17 Is that how I pronounce it? Laurentians? I have no idea. Dear John and Adam, hope this is $200. Hope this note finds you low. And I think that's Canada, by the way. That's why I don't know.

Starting point is 02:25:27 Oh, yeah, okay. Canada. Frosty Laurentians, Canada. I'd like to wish a happy birthday, October 16th. That's today. To my smoking hot wife, Sarah. House Denmark. We've been together for 23 glorious years.

Starting point is 02:25:42 We have two daughters and just celebrated our 20th anniversary, which means we only. lived in sin for a very short time. Hopefully, this minor slippage won't earn us a one-way ticket to hell. She is the best thing that happened to me in my life. I do not know where and in what state I would be in if it would not for her grounding skills. Moreover, I'm grateful that she is still keeping up with me. A couple of years ago, Sarah hit me in the mouth and I haven't missed many episodes since.

Starting point is 02:26:07 And here's a $200 donation. A deduishing is in order. You've been deduished. Well, I have your attention to this very important. matter. Could I be just, could I, could I disturb you, could I disturb you for a jingle? I love my truck and I love what I do. Oh, you know. Keep up the good work. Hopefully your exit plan will fall through and thanks for keeping a sane in an insane world. Here's to another 15 more years at least. Thank you for your

Starting point is 02:26:41 attention to this matter. Alex from the Frosty Laurentians. I love my truck, and I love what I do. Nailed it. Okay. By the way, his wife hit him in the mouth. I think I admire the female listeners to this show who do that. They're the best. They are the best.

Starting point is 02:27:03 Linda Lou Patkins, one of them. She's in Lakewood, Colorado, $200, Jobs, Karma. For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersink.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs. and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

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Starting point is 02:28:35 Shut up, Slade. Shut up, Slade. Shut up. Nancy Nancy All right Let's see And what do I have

Starting point is 02:28:54 How about some ice stuff I got an MPR You got ice stuff? You got ice stuff? Okay NPR First ice tactic By now you might have seen videos

Starting point is 02:29:04 On the news Or on social media Of federal immigration officers detaining immigrants Using what looked to be Increasingly aggressive tactics A recent poll by the New York Times And Sienna College

Starting point is 02:29:15 finds that while a majority of voters support deporting people who entered the country illegally, 51% say the Trump administration's tactics have gone too far. NPR criminal justice reporter Meg Anderson has this report on the tactics immigration and customs enforcement agents are using. A video

Starting point is 02:29:31 from Hyattesville, Maryland, shows a man pinned to the ground by two ICE officers. He pleads in Spanish and English for someone to help him. One officer drops his gun during the exchange and fumbles for it. Then he appears to point it at bystanders.

Starting point is 02:29:50 Put the gun down. Emily Covington, an assistant director of ICE Public Affairs, told NPR in a statement that drawing a weapon can be used to stop a situation from escalating. Another video, this one from the Chicago area, appears to show a man getting shot in the head with a ball containing chemical irritants outside an ice facility. That man has sued.

Starting point is 02:30:14 the Trump administration. Now, is there more than this one? Because you said... It goes on, but it's the same thing. It's just complaining. Well, no, they're setting it up. They're setting up for an event where, you see, this is it. These guys are no good.

Starting point is 02:30:28 This is horrible. This is what you get. We need civil war. These people are eating protein powder, John. Yeah, well, there's no doubt about that. Meanwhile, in Europe, certainly in monarch Europe, They are just siopping their, their population. It's like, oh, you know, we've got to take you back in time, 80 years.

Starting point is 02:30:53 Sweden is ready in for war. Since 2024, it has invested around 7.7 million euros to upgrade its 64,000 shelters built during the Second World War and the Cold War. Like this one in Sweden's capital of Stockholm, the Gildesam's car park seems like an ordinary underground parking area carved into the rock face but it can actually also serve as a public shelter for 1.2,000 people. It can resist the blast and the degree and such things that comes with a bomb and then it's airtight so it even resists resist bio gas or chemical gas or even nuclear waste. With tensions with Russia increasing since the Fulski War in Ukraine,

Starting point is 02:31:53 the Swedish government has promised to increase its civil defense budget by seven times. But Johanlinson says the money allocated is unlikely to cover cost of fixing all of the shelters, let alone building new ones. Sweden's civil defense minister warned last year that a military attack could not be rolled out. Don't worry, citizens. We're just increasing your taxes and spending it on war stuff because, you know, Russia could attack chemical weapons.

Starting point is 02:32:29 We're doing it for your safety to protect your freedoms. It's really crazy. Protect your freedoms. Yes. Meanwhile, Geert Wilders, You know, they have the, what's the word, not decommissionaire, de-commissionaire. They have the caretaker government in the Netherlands because the cabinet fell, you know, so, you know, the gearing up for, you know, Gheard Wilders was the one who said, okay, well, look, you guys don't want to do anything about these immigrants, then, okay, the cabinet falls.

Starting point is 02:33:00 And so elections will be coming up again, and right on cue. We want 60,000 Syrian refugees in the Netherlands. to return to Syria immediately. And we want, maybe one of the most important things, we want all criminal foreigners to be deported from the Netherlands. Yeah, and the crowd goes crazy. It was in Hungary, so there was no crowd to go crazy.

Starting point is 02:33:28 But that's the kind of talk they want to hear now, I believe. Yeah, probably, but there's nothing that's going to come of it. Well, I don't know. don't know it all it depends on the dutch that's that's really it depends on them if they want to do it. They put up with a lot it seems to me

Starting point is 02:33:47 oh well yeah they do uh see I have some shutdown stuff which uh I have one shutdown clip okay let's play this a federal court there there's your there's your

Starting point is 02:34:03 uh your your off access uh NPR so it's only with your NPR clips. These are all new ones, too. Did you clip them yourself? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:34:15 Well, you're... I mean, there's one clip where I didn't clip my... A couple two, actually, but... You're heavy on the right. You're heavy on the right. Here we go. A federal court says President Trump has to stop firing workers during the government's shutdown. U.S. District Judge Susan Ilston and San Francisco issued the ruling after federal agencies started laying off workers last week. Trump has said he's targeting what he calls Democrat agents.

Starting point is 02:34:38 agencies. Democrats say they're not intimidated by Trump blaming them for the layoffs. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says Democrats are holding firm on their demands for Congress to extend health care subsidies. Neither Trump nor congressional Republicans are even trying to solve the health care crisis. And that is just a hollis. Crisis? The American people. Meanwhile, Republicans are confident in their strategy to not negotiate with Democrats on health care until the government is reopened. Here's Senate Majority Leader John Thune. I think the American people are wondering when the Senate Democrats are going to end their temper tantrum and vote to reopen the government. A bill to temporarily fund the government again failed in the Senate today.

Starting point is 02:35:22 Government workers are feeling the effects of the shutdown as it stretches into week three. Gabriela Paul at member station WUSF spoke with a federal worker who says it's affecting her finances and mental health. Tierra Carter answers the phones for the Social Security Administration in taking. Tampa. She's working without pay until the shutdown ends. We're stressing about the fight that's going on in the White House. We're also stressing out about how we're going to handle our financial situations at home. Last week, the Trump administration began mass layoffs across several federal agencies. Carter says her department is spared for now. To be completely honest, I feel ashamed to be a American citizen right now. I mean, who does this to their

Starting point is 02:36:04 all essential workers. Every day the shutdown drags on, Carter says the agency's backlog of service requests grows. Yeah. A little slanted the reporting there, it seems to me. Just a tad, perhaps. I have... NPR pushing the Democrat agenda.

Starting point is 02:36:21 Don't give them money. I was talking to to talk long ago of the Gold Guns and Goats podcast. And he said, what's really happening here, he says is they're shutting down all of the climate change stuff that's why you don't hear about it he says it's got to be a trillion

Starting point is 02:36:39 dollars worth of climate change stuff all over the government that they're shutting down so the way i understood it is this kind of a red herring these jobs the riff the reduction in force but it's really money being shut off from climate change stuff which is probably quite a lot stuff is the right word scam is the word good morning i'm an air traffic controller here do you want to help aviation safety by This member of the Air Traffic Controllers Union handed leaflets to travelers outside Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia, Tuesday to highlight the impact of the ongoing government shutdown. The American worker that lives paycheck to paycheck, which is almost every air traffic controller, cannot last without pay. In a social media post, the White House Office and Management and Budget said Tuesday that it is preparing to, quote, write out the Democrats by continuing to pay troops and law enforcement, and more reduction in force notices.

Starting point is 02:37:35 We are closing up Democrat programs that we think that we disagree with, and they're never going to open again. At a news conference, Democrats call the Trump administration's layoffs illegal. Firing and threatening to fire federal employees is part of the Trump administration's campaign to inflict trauma on our federal workforce. House Speaker Mike Johnson has warned this shutdown could be the longest in history, as lawmakers remain deadlocked. But President Trump says his administration has identified funds to at least pay the military.

Starting point is 02:38:10 A move some Democrats say is likely illegal. My understanding of this is they have every right to move the funds around. If the Democrats want to go to court and challenge troops being paid, bring it. Erica Brown, CBS News, Capitol Hill. Bring it. Bring it. I'm big bad Mike Johnson. Bring it. Bring it, I tell you. A rare Jen Psocky clip on the show

Starting point is 02:38:31 Regarding the shutdown Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christine Nome Who never passes up the opportunity To get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits Has even gone as far as to tape this video To be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across That's Ice Barbie Christy Nome

Starting point is 02:38:50 Oh, is Christy Nome she's talking about? Yes, I'll play it again Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits, has even gone as far as to tape this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across the country. Isn't it just rude for women to make rude comments about their wardrobe?

Starting point is 02:39:12 Isn't that something that women just don't do? If there are, if there's a Democrat woman condemning a Republican woman, it's okay. Protein popcorn. Yeah, there's a protein. Democrats in Congress refused to fund the federal government, and because of this, Many of our operations are impacted, and most of our TSA employees are working without pay. You know, this is usually the video that's like, stay stape. If you see something, say something, whatever it may be.

Starting point is 02:39:38 Now, unfortunately for Nome, that video is not going to be seen by the number of air travelers she had hoped. And that's because airports across the country are refusing to air it. Officials in Buffalo, Charlotte, Cleveland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Seattle, and Portland, Oregon, all have said that the video violates internal politics. as well as state and local laws. Wow, what a great report, Jen. Yeah. Can't believe she's still on the air with that stuff.

Starting point is 02:40:08 This in from the quad screen, the grand jury indicted John Bolton. Yeah, well, that was a foregone conclusion. Yes. But what he was indicted for, we're not sure. I think it's for having classified documents on his possession. I think it's sniffing farts and public. Well, that could be too, but I don't know what the offense is.

Starting point is 02:40:31 Anything's possible. I think we've had January 6th, we had that. Oh, yes, we do have one climate change, quick clip. The UN's climate agency says there was a record increase in carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere last year. It says the rate of the increase has tripled since the 1960s. The director of the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service is Carlo Beyond Tempo. The most surprising element is that we are surprised, that we reach a new peak. The main factor has been our additional influx of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Starting point is 02:41:13 If we continue on this path, we are very likely to see the exceedance of the 1.5 degrees. Shut up. Okay, well, you're going to play that. Let's go back. let's go back 43 years okay 43 years ago that would put me at about 20 something all right i'm ready this is the climate cbs report from dan rather 1982 do we need you know what we need oh it's like we need a harp we can't just go back in time without the harp so people have to feel feel like we're really doing this okay here we go going back in time on no agenda to 19

Starting point is 02:41:54 Concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a hearing here in Washington today. For years, scientists have theorized about the dangers of the so-called greenhouse effect, the warming of the Earth's atmosphere due to the burning of coal and oil. And in recent months, as David Colhain reports, research has uncovered facts to support that theory. Many scientists claim that the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere has been rising over the past 100 years, that the great sheets of pack ice in Antarctica are melting at a much more rapid rate than previously. And finally, that the sea level has been rising

Starting point is 02:42:32 with increasing swiftness over the past 40 years. If these scientists are correct, about 25% of Florida would be flooded along with low-lying areas all over the world. Climate changes could produce widespread disruption of agriculture. The American farm belt might be too dry, and the wheat and corn crops would have to move to Canada. scientists blame the odorless colorless carbon dioxide gas for these potentially dangerous changes around the planet it is the greenhouse effect the gas allows sunlight to filter down and warm the earth but like the glass of a greenhouse the carbon dioxide tends to trap heat so that it cannot rise into space

Starting point is 02:43:11 the scientists maintain that the coal oil and gas we've been burning for a hundred years have produced more and more carbon dioxide and helped overheat the earth Now, some political leaders endorse the demands for more CO2 monitoring stations, like this one in Hawaii. And they share the anger of the scientists at Reagan administration budget cuts at a time when they feel closer to getting definitive answers. We are not doing the kind of research that we should be doing to determine whether or not these scientists who are so alarmed are correct in their assessment. And what they find out will affect the lives and fortunately. of millions of people, the very survival of cities like this one. David Culhane, CBS News, New York. That's a great clip.

Starting point is 02:44:01 Where did you get that from? It was just floored. Someone dug it up and it was floating around. Oh, man, 42 years this scam was been. And that's after the whole we're going to die of frostbite. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's really amazing. Well, before we go to break here, I just want to mention there was a pretty good idea from Kiwi Chris.

Starting point is 02:44:26 You know, I've been looking at the prices of our, of the ultimate No Agenda Meetup at the Sphere. Oh, yeah, the Sphere. In Vegas, yeah. So it costs about a million and a half dollars to rent the Sphere for one 24-hour period. And about a million and a half dollars for all the production. And he says, you know, I just heard the plans for the show at the Sphere. I'm sure it would be just magnificent. However, I think you've missed the part that will be the thing that really brings them in.

Starting point is 02:44:54 And I thought, you know, we might be able to crack this financial nut of $3 million. He says, no agenda, the musical. And I'm like, this is a great idea. Yeah, I think no agenda of the musical could be a big hit. I think that our end-of-show mixers who love their AI so much should be doing music. on it as we speak musical numbers he says all the deconstruction you will ever need sung by john and adam with special opening dance number by the keeper commissory blogger eli the coffee guy linda lou and brian with an eye that way you can produce a video double album t-shirts songbook think of all the

Starting point is 02:45:35 merch exit strategy this is it no agenda the musical it's it's kind of like the book of Mormon only different I need you I need your buying on this I need your buying on this I need your buying oh yeah yeah I'm all in I'm gonna show my soul by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab

Starting point is 02:45:59 yeah on no agenda in the morning we got two meet up reports from Texas where a lot of people were hanging out together it seemed like a lot of people from Texas donate in general as well. We do have a night. We've got a pair of Secretary General's.

Starting point is 02:46:18 Of course, the birthday count. Everybody wants to hear their birthday. And John is now going to thank the producers who supported us $50 and above. Well, first of all, I want to play this bonus clip. Bonus clip. Yeah, it turns out that the world, what's the date today? Today's October 16th. Oh, that's weird.

Starting point is 02:46:40 because on October 14th the world should have had this massive change because of some resonance well play this clip and it'll take as well I could save this for it no no no I want to hear it is this the Schumann resonance no no I don't know what resonance

Starting point is 02:47:05 this is but it was supposed to you know like the 14th We're going to have a different world, and it's the 16th, and I don't see it. Well, I want to hear it now. Mark the date. On the 14th of October, we are experiencing something extraordinary, which is timelessness, because the past, the future, and the present will become one. And no, this doesn't happen every October 14th.

Starting point is 02:47:30 This is a once-in-history alignment known as the Golden Intersection of Timelands. So exactly 443 years ago, Hope Gregory the 13th changed. the calendar and distorted the natural flow of time. He reformed time itself, and with that we began living in disharmony. We are constantly running after time instead of flowing with nature. Time is not linear, it is a spiral, and our calendar doesn't acknowledge that. And that's what we're being reminded on on the 14th of October. Why that date? Because 1582, Pope Gregory signed the decree that introduced his calendar until October 14th, 2000, 25. There are Precisely 161.803 days, and that number mirrors the golden ratio.

Starting point is 02:48:17 This is the divine proportion. It is found everywhere in the universe, and seashells, galaxies, flowers, even within our DNA. Also, October 14th is celebrated as World Standards Day, the date that humanity chose to honor the global standardization of measurement and time. But what makes this day truly extraordinary is that three great calendars, the Mayan Longcount, the Zolkin, and the Gregorian calendar all synchronized through this same harmonic code on this day. So on October 14th and 15th, artificial time finally aligns with natural time, and that creates a window of perfect harmony. So this will be a moment to remember that harmony is not an idea, it is a frequency.

Starting point is 02:49:01 And on these days, that frequency will be playing out. So we will be reminded of what it feels like to move with time and not against it. because this isn't just about numbers or calendars. This is about resonance. So if you want to dive deeper into this and prepare yourself for this energy on the 14th, feel free to join my live stream on Friday, where I will dive deeper with you into the golden intersections of timelines. To join, just read the caption, we love.

Starting point is 02:49:25 Blessings and thank you for tuning you. Oh, brother. We lost everybody now. That was the worst clip ever. It was a great clip. There you are again, condemning my great clips. Let's get that, like our, like, was it Trudy? What was her name?

Starting point is 02:49:44 Yeah, the one person. The one person. Well, I got another one. So there's two. But that was, this would have been great to play on October 13th or the 12th. Well, we didn't have a show on October 13th. We had a show on the 12th. That would have been perfect.

Starting point is 02:49:58 Was this a Dutch woman, by the way? She sounds a Dutch. She did sound funny. Yeah. It's funny. All right. Now we can thank our producers $50. Well, let's start with Anonymous, and Alpharetta, Georgia came in 105-35.

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Starting point is 02:50:32 Okay. Kevin McLaughlin in Conquer, North Carolina, he's the Archduca Luna, lover of American and melons and boobs and he wants to save them yes 8008 William McFarlane Manassas Virginia 70 for his 70th birthday coming up Rick Thomas another fabulous bit coin donation of 69 bucks and he's got to plug the veteran Bitcoin veteran summit in Nashville uh look it up uh Stephen Schumach in Zinia ohio 648 Christopher Dexter, 5678, unnamed Knight in Padova, Italy, Padua, I think is what we'd call it. Yes.

Starting point is 02:51:17 55, 55, James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 55, 10, Evgeny Damaskine, Damaskine in Boston, 55, and he's 55 today. Luke Munel, Luke Munel in Los Angeles, 5272, Viscount, Sir Economic Hitman, there he is in Tombell, Texas, 5501. The rest of these are $50 donors, there's not a lot of them. Starting with Brandon Savoy in Port, Orchard, Washington, Patricia Worthington and Miami Beach, Miami, sorry, Dame Patricia, as it were, Diane Schwinnaback in Johnsburg, Illinois, Kevin Dills, and Huntersville, North Carolina, easy landscapes. in North Stonington, Connecticut. Chris Lewinsky and Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada. And last on the list, a very short list for the old day. Not very good, but it has to do.

Starting point is 02:52:12 Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. I think these folks show 1808. Yes, and thanks again to our executive and associate executive producers for bringing us the heat for episode 1808. And if you want to support the best podcast in the universe, the only way to do that is to just set. us some value. Whatever you get out of the show, send it right back to us. Noagendidonations.com.

Starting point is 02:52:38 It's a birthday, birthday on no agenda. And here is our list, which is completely free of charge. For those of you asking you about it, just let us know what birthday wishes you want to do. We're happy to put it on. Evgian, Evgeney. Damaskin, she turned 55 on the 12th. We just heard that. Dan, happy birthday to his oldest human resource, Beckett, turns 13 today.

Starting point is 02:53:01 Happy birthday, Beckett. Being of the BMWs and Bulldogs, happy birthday to his son, Jack Tesla Rodiger, turned 16 on the 16th. That's the day. Alex wishes his smoking hot wife, Sarah, a very happy birthday today. And William McFarlane turned 70 years old. We say, happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We've got two Secretary General's coming in just under the wire, which is very good. Did I say something?

Starting point is 02:53:29 Yes. that secretary general's jingle is driving me nuts why i hear it all day it's just like a bug it's like one of those worms what do you call it uh musical earworm earworm it's an earworm so do you want me to get for some reason i just keep hearing this song or i go to bed i'm hearing it all during the day i'll be glad when this when this is over this promotion will end very soon it is time to hail them Generals, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary's Generals on the No Agenda Show. And we say congratulations to the Secretary General Lubor Benda

Starting point is 02:54:16 and Secretary General of the Carnivore Nation. Both of you should go to Noagenda Rings.com. Let us know where to send these handsome certificates so everybody will know that you are a Secretary General of the National. No Agenda show. All hail to the Secretary's generals, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary's generals on the No Agenda Show. And we have one knight, who, as we know, donated to 22.22.

Starting point is 02:54:52 So bring out your 20 to your row of duck sword there, if you don't mind, the one that you... Yeah, you get it. There it is. Ron Sherman, step on up, sir. I know he didn't want anything special for the roundtable. We do have special stuff for you, because it's always special at the round table for the no agenda, the knights and dames.

Starting point is 02:55:11 Thanks, oh, I almost cut myself. Thanks to your support in the amount of $1,000 or more, which you tallied up and gave us the accounting. I am very proud to pronounce the as Sir Fungus Among Us. And for you, we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay. Along with that, we've got some harbushableness. listen to Hal Dole. We've got redheads and rise. We got Gates of the sake, buck and vanilla,

Starting point is 02:55:34 bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk, and pablum. And as always, as you're grazing around the roundtable, you've got your mutton and your meat. Go to no agenda rings.com.

Starting point is 02:55:47 Everybody can check out those handsome knight and dame rings. They are signet rings, so it comes with them wax. You can use those to seal your important correspondence, a certificate of authenticity, and of course, let us know what your ring size is. look forward to hailing you as a night of the No Agenda Roundtable. And now it's time for our meetups.

Starting point is 02:56:06 No agenda meetups. All right. We had a lot of people of these meetups. Everybody has to get their little two cents in. So the first one is Dirty Jersey Hoar, who organized the Johnson City meetup on the 10th of October one day before the Fredericksburg meetup. And here's the report. Hey, this is Rudy. I'm just out here looking for some big cans, coffee cans, that is, big ones. Filling for Daniel because he dropped the mic.

Starting point is 02:56:37 Well, it was beeping, so I thought it was recorded. Mr. Brian with an eye in the morning. Hey, this is Daniel, AKA Dirty Jersey Hoare. We're here at the Johnson City night before the storm meet up. We're having a big time here in Johnson City, Texas. So I'm the new Secretary General of converting. Factories back to farms. ITM, this is the second meetup, and it's just as good as the first.

Starting point is 02:57:05 Looking forward to seeing everybody tomorrow. Jane Tracy here in Jefferson City. Glad to be invited and having a great time and hope to come back soon. Cairc break here, hanging out here at Johnson City, and it is the Pecan Street Brewing. This is Robbie, and I had something witty to say, but I forgot it. in the morning. This is Melinda. I should not have had that second drink.

Starting point is 02:57:36 Okay. Wow. Very noisy there. And a lot of the same people, including our Secretary General of the Stop the Factories, go to the farm. What's her name?

Starting point is 02:57:49 Janice. Janice Giles, I think. Janet, Janet. There you go. She also showed up in Fredericksburg. This was a very big meet-off. Hey, it's Tina the Keeper. in the morning. And it's

Starting point is 02:57:59 the Podfather, and this has been our best J-Sixer Jenny outfit meet-up yet. And thank you to Gail and Matt. This is Aaron. And Aaron. From Abilene, in the morning. In the morning, this is Baron Serotonin, coming all the way from Fort Worth.

Starting point is 02:58:15 This is Brenda from Local 512 saying in the morning. Hi there. I am Caleb Funk. I'm here with my smoking hot wife, and we are over-informed and under-socialized. This is Chris. This is James. From Round Rock in the morning. Hey, I'm Chris from Washington.

Starting point is 02:58:31 This is great. Got to meet a bunch of new people, and everybody was really friendly. Dame Tracy of the Roman Wright, and this is my first time at the big meetup. I got to meet Adam and the Keeper. Hi, this is Derry's from Centerpoint, Texas. It was a great time. Hey, this is Dirty, Georgia Horam. I miss you, Matt.

Starting point is 02:58:49 In the morning. This is Baron Scott, soon-to-be Viscount Scott. And Keeper Christine. Getting ready to celebrate our 18th wedding anniversary, the day after the show's anniversary, in the morning. This is Sir Brian with an eye from Cedar Park, and I just met some lovely Dutch people. Hi, we're Max and Emma, the Dutch people. In the oxton. Good morning, goodches.

Starting point is 02:59:14 Hi, this is Insanite Sir Tim of the Domestead. Okay, this is Dame Mary of the Domestead. We're in Lucanbach, Texas. This is Duke of the South. Patrick, howdy. Team of region number four, checking in. Memphis up. In the morning, this is Gordon Myers from Dripping Springs, Texas.

Starting point is 02:59:33 Hey, this is Rudy. My name's Holly. We just moved to Texas from Colorado, but I'm from Washington State. In the morning. This is Alyssa. This is Jamie. We have our human resources here. And we're wondering where our friend Casey is.

Starting point is 02:59:49 If you're listening, reach out. Hi, this is just Greg in the morning. Hi, this is Karen Myers. Everybody have a good day. Hi, it's Con El Linguis from Austin, Texas. Hey, this is Marco from Central Oregon. Pleased to meet you. Hey, you guys, thanks for being there.

Starting point is 03:00:03 In the morning, this is Nick from Austin. I'm Nikki from Abilene. Oh, hello, John. In the morning. Hey, this is Paul Bailey. Don't forget to get the Godcaster app. I'm Ralph from Durango, Colorado. Hey, this is Rob, your constitutional lawyer,

Starting point is 03:00:18 bringing you speech that is free for the usual fee. Okay, it's Todd in the morning. Hey, this is Trinidad. I have a blast at Fredericksburg Mee-O. This is Gary McBride, the second worst bartender in the county here at 1776 Bar. And if you missed it, you missed it. Hi, my name's Leslie Stewart, and I am helping out at the Full Moon Inn as a bartender. And the No Agenda folks are amazing, amazing people. And it's been so fun to be here.

Starting point is 03:00:41 In the morning, it's Gail standing in for Matt. We've had a great crowd. This is great. I can't wait to go to another one. In the morning! That was a big meetup. We've got a meetup taking place today. The North Idaho Sanity Brigade

Starting point is 03:00:57 October meetup 5 o'clock at Trails End Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza. That's in Curter Lane. Also today, Charlotte's Thursday, Thursday monthly meetup. That'll kick off at 7th tonight at Edg's Tavern and Charlotte, North Carolina. On Saturday, there's a new location

Starting point is 03:01:13 for the Dallas Fort Worth, Mid-Cities meetup. That's 11.30 in the morning at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas. Also on Saturday, the 37th, No Agenda Meetup in Fort Wayne, Indiana, Hall's Tavern and Coventry. That's at noon. And also on Saturday, all aboard.

Starting point is 03:01:29 Number 68, Santa Fe Cafe Cafe, Fullerton, California. That's another flight of the no agendas. I guess they're going to be looking at trains again. Tickets. And we have the No Agenda, Ohio meetup at 5.30 at Dempsey's Tavern on Saturday and Columbus, Ohio. And finally, the Sunday show will be accompanied by Meetup DB's Pat Surprise birthday party, Michigan Local 1, holding that at 2 o'clock at Horrocks Farm Market Beer Garden in Lansing, Michigan.

Starting point is 03:01:58 Just some of the smattering of no agenda meetups that take place all around the globe. We have them literally all around the globe. Go to noagendametups.com to find out where they are. If you can't find one near you, just start one yourself. It's fun, easy, and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want me Triggered or hell lame

Starting point is 03:02:23 You want to be where everybody feels the same It's like a party And we end this party As always with John's tip of the day Coming up in just moments And of course we always want to find a fun ISO To end the show with And I see you have

Starting point is 03:02:46 What do you have? two here three i'm sorry you have three don't get mad you're mad get even don't get mad get even three meters three isos um well maybe i should start with mine then so i start with mine

Starting point is 03:03:03 yes i please i believe so okay ten out of ten it's awesome knocks out of the park hmm it's not bad yeah it's terminated that's not bad yeah and then of course i had And where's my, huh, I lost it. Where's the, yeah, this one. I like this one.

Starting point is 03:03:27 Shut up. I still like that one. I can't help myself. All right. What do you got? Well, first of all, we had a seance. A seance? Yeah, and we got a, I got a clip which I think you find some use someplace, but it's not

Starting point is 03:03:41 going to be a good end-to-show mix thing. But this is, yeah, we conjured up Walter Cronkite. On the AI, yes, on 11 loves. No, it was a seance. Oh, okay. And we recorded it, and here it is. Adam Curry and John C. DeVorak provide an invaluable public service. They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted, using machetes of truth and logic.

Starting point is 03:04:07 Wow, I like that one a lot. I don't mind using that one. That's cool. That's a good one. Yeah, he made a pull. Yes, he made a very good point, our old Walter Cronkite. It didn't sound like him at all, but, I mean, you know, he's a ghost that came as a seance. Yeah, what are you going to do?

Starting point is 03:04:26 What are your other choices? It could have been the recording gear. Oh, yes, probably. And I got rubble. Rubble. Okay. Yes. And then we have another dude came into the seance as Kennedy, John Kennedy, the senator.

Starting point is 03:04:42 Well, hot damn. That was a real humdinger. That's actually better than Cronkite. Well, hot damn! That was a real humdinger. Oh, you know, why don't I use this at the end when the mic drop comes, and then I'll play Cronkite as an extra bonus end of show. That's...

Starting point is 03:05:01 Perfect. Okay. And before all that, though, we get another John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. At all. So I'm not going to do this too often, but I'm going to do it this time. Okay.

Starting point is 03:05:23 Which is, I'm going to recommend a movie. Wow. As the tip of the day. But it's not a movie you can just go see, and it's not out. It's a movie you're going to have to track down, or you're going to have to get a Turner Classic movies. They just played it recently. I saw it again for about the fifth time. And I have to say, this movie is important to listeners of this particular show.

Starting point is 03:05:44 Let me guess. Let me guess. The internationalist. No, that's a good movie. I like that movie. Okay. No, no, no. The Manchurian candidate.

Starting point is 03:05:55 Ooh. And that's from the 50s, 60s? 50s or 60s? Yeah. But it's like it is such a outstanding movie with Angela Lansberry playing the heavy. She plays a character who is basically Hillary Clinton. Mm. And she plays and she's such a good actor.

Starting point is 03:06:16 You know, you think of her as some sort of a goofball actress, you know, doing murder she wrote or whatever. No, no. She was a solid actress, and she plays a very nasty character in this movie. But it's starring Frank Sinatra. Yes. But this movie, and I've seen it and seen it and every time I watch it, it's like it's a fabulous film and people should find a way to watch it or find a way to track a copy down. If you have to download it, just get a copy of this and watch it. It's film, I tell you, everybody.

Starting point is 03:06:48 It's not a film, John. It is cinema. Yeah, it is cinema. It is cinema. Those days are over. I mean, the troll room was guessing Debbie does Dallas and all kinds of other films. But no, no one expected to hear the Manchurian candidate. Another fantastic tip of the day. Find them all at tip of the day.com. Create advice for you and me.

Starting point is 03:07:11 Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. created by Dana Burnettie. And that does it, everybody. But that doesn't mean that your fun is done. No, no, because, oh, goodness, we have congressional dish running on the stream. Interesting.

Starting point is 03:07:29 Oh, well, that's interesting. Haven't heard Jen Bryan in a while. There's her golf club swing again. That's coming up next on noagenda stream.com. Of course, you can always tune into noagendastream.com. 24 hours a day. There's always something interesting. many of them are live.

Starting point is 03:07:47 Get your modern podcast app to be alerted when they go live, particularly those guys from Planet, Planet Rage. I like that show. End of show mixes. We have, let's see, we've got Agent Looper, and we have, it's been two weeks in a row, we have another one from the clip custodian himself, Neil Jones. Stay tuned for that.

Starting point is 03:08:10 And as always, I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of the J-6 or Jenny meetups, Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's actually nice out today. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday. Please join us for more media deconstruction and whatever happened to John Bolton.

Starting point is 03:08:32 Remember us at no agenda donations.com. Until then, adios, small foes, hooey, hooey, and such. Because all countries need allies. Here is a group of people. who we can use as the theoreticians and the executors of the U.S. policy that we want. In Israel is an ally. It's a fighting ally that pulls its wake. America's landed aircraft carrier. We're the junior partner.

Starting point is 03:09:00 We have fought now. Seven front war. We have an eighth front. The infosphere is the eighth front. And seizing the high ground and the fight for global public opinion is a battle. He told these people, I think they're going to kill me. Who is they? writes in this group chat just lost another huge Jewish donor. Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians and those people fall into three categories. Some of them identify with Hamas. Some of them are intimidated.

Starting point is 03:09:34 And the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas. The AP like all of its sister organizations collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza. What does that mean? The center of the coverage will be number, a casualty number that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas. It's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information. You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it. Is that clear? You think you merely stopped a business deal? That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back. It is airbed flow, it is airbed flow, tidal gravity.

Starting point is 03:10:25 It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are nations. There are no Russians, there are no Arabs, there are no third worlds, there is the West, there is the West, there is no West, there is no West, there is no West, there is no West, interwoven, interacting, multivariant, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro dollars, electro dollars, multi-dollars, rank marks, rims, rubles, bounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. The best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo.

Starting point is 03:11:55 Devorak.org. Slash.org. Well, hot damn! That was a real humdinger. Adam Curry and John C. Devorak provide an invaluable public service. They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted, using machetes of truth and logic.

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No Agenda - 1808 - "Bad Fad"

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