No Agenda - 1810 - "golfball"

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why would I want to use my app? I'm standing right here. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, October 23rd, 2025. This is your award-winning, Kimmel Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1810. This is no agenda. Betting on Sportsball and broadcasting live
Starting point is 00:00:19 from the heart of the Texas health country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where whatever happened to Putin, I'm John C. Borek. It's Crackbott and Buzzkill. In the morning.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Oh, wait a minute. Isn't he dying of Parkinson's disease? Putin? I thought it was a goner, man. He was, remember? He'd look bad. You're saying that years ago. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Well, that's what I'm still waiting for. I'm still waiting for it. It's bull crap. I'm waiting for it. Of course it's bull crap. He's built like a bear. So... Where's the meeting?
Starting point is 00:00:55 Did you see the breaking news this morning? Breaking news. Breaking news. The quad screen had it all, even the BBC, breaking news. I'm shopped, shop to find that gambling is going on in here. Breaking! All right, some breaking news is catching everybody by surprise. The FBI arresting it.
Starting point is 00:01:10 By surprise. NBA player, Terry Rozier, early this morning in connection with a widespread sports betting investigation. And he's not the only one. This is huge news. Nate Ford joins us life from Brooklyn with the latest. More breaking. Hey, guys, good morning. Yeah, breaking news that is sure to rock the sports world.
Starting point is 00:01:27 You mentioned Terry Rozier. And he's not the only one. Chauncey Billups, the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, and a multi-time All-Star, a finals MVP, back in his playing days, also arrested this morning as part of an FBI investigation into illegal sports gambling. Now, Rozier, he was arrested in Orlando this morning, and he was there because the Miami Heat played the Orlando Magic last night. Rozier was active for that game, but he did not play as part of a coach's decision.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Now, this all comes after the Wall Street Journal reported back in January that Rozier was under federal investigation related to a 2023 game back when he played for the Charlotte Hornets, where there was a surge of suspicious gambling activity related to the under on his performance with points, rebounds, and assist in a game where Rozier ended up leaving after about 10 minutes with an ankle injury. So the Wall Street Journal report detailed it so that it appeared that perhaps Rozier was accused of changing his performance in the game in order for other people to make money on his bets or on their bets. Yeah, there it is. Your art is fake. Your music is fake. Your sports ball is fake. The world is fake and phony. Welcome, everybody, to the show.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We talked about this before, which is the prop bets. Yes, that was a prop bet on his underperform. Well, wow. Okay, that's easy to do. Oh, I don't feel good. I think go walk off the field, walk off the court. Oh, I hurt myself. Yeah. This is fantastic. It's all fake. But did these two guys? Come on. This has got to be a rampant problem. Oh, no, no. That was just the breaking news. I mean, the FBI says it's tied to the mob. It's ongoing. The coverage is wall to wall is breaking. It's breaking my screen. It's so, it's so breaking. And it's so important. Well, no, of course not, but it's still funny. No, what's important? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:03:28 What's important is bad bunny. There's a long pause there for a reason. Yes, because you're like, what is bad bunny? We know about bad bunny. You're the last on the block. This is old news you're going to start to discuss. It just, it pops up again. They do this and they do bad bunny.
Starting point is 00:03:51 If it's old news, I guess I don't have to play any clips because everybody knows it already. I think so, yeah, bad bunny thing. The bad bunny thing began when they announced it, which was weeks ago. Yeah, but now they announced an alternative halftime show. Did you know that? Yeah, it's called Go Into the Kitchen and Make Some Food. No, let's see. I think it's called the All-American Half-Time Show, which will be put on by...
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's going to be on a different channel? No, it's going to be on the internet, baby. Oh, yeah, that'll do it. There's nothing more convenient than putting the internet on your TV. Well, what do you mean? On your big screen TV or are you watching the Super Bowl? YouTube, YouTube, it's easy. People put YouTube on.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It'll be streaming on YouTube. I think that's pretty easy. You don't think so? I mean, I can do it. I have the equipment to do it, but I'm watching the Super Bowl. I did probably if I'm a typical viewer of the Super Bowl I like to see the ads and then no one nobody watches the Super Bowl for ads anymore no they don't watch it no please they still do they still do they name one iconic ad from the Super Bowl from the past five Super Bowls the 1984 past five
Starting point is 00:05:08 ad exactly there it is iconic from 1984 it was great I think the Burger King where's the Beef? That was probably one. No, that wasn't a Super Bowl. That was all played everywhere. And how about what's it? We had that one? That was not a Super Bowl. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So you're proving my point. You cannot name. The Super Bowl would be the hurting cats, I think, would be the one that would be people remember. Yeah, what was the brand? What was the brand? A cat hurting company. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Okay. And by the way, you don't, there's nothing is assured. You don't know if you'll be any, you don't know if there's going to be an internet. An error message popping up on Snapchat. The messaging service was predominantly by teens just one of the many apps affected after a global outage hit the cloud services of Amazon. According to a website which monitors problems on the internet, the outage has impacted companies hitting platforms linked to McDonald's,
Starting point is 00:06:08 texting service signal, and Disney Plus. I love it. Oh, no. Just listen to all the crap that didn't work. Everything is completely non-essential. Nothing that went down was important really in your life at all. Amazon's cloud is used by international companies and governments as well. In the United Kingdom, the country's tax authority was facing disruptions.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Amazon Web Services provides on-demand cloud computing, data storage, and other offerings as well. AWS competes with Google and the Microsoft Cloud. Monday's outage is the first major internet disruption to hit on a global scale, after last year's crowd strike malfunctioned, impacting operations in banks, hospitals, and airports. According to analysts, it demonstrates just how dependent the vast majority of global companies and governments have become on a handful of American tech firms. An initial investigation from Amazon suggests the problem stemmed from a critical infrastructure zone in Virginia. Yeah, no, why don't you just say what it really was? DNS.
Starting point is 00:07:15 They can't say what it really was. because they don't know how to pronounce DNS. It's like a phone book that helps you find the computers on the internet. It was a glitch. I will note that the No Agenda show downloads did not suffer from any glitch. The No Agenda stream, the troll room, everything kept on rolling because we decentralized. Decentralize or die, people. Everyone can decentralize.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah, but they don't. Why? Is it that much cheaper? Oh, no. In fact, I think it's more expensive. I think it's just... Wait a man. Let me get this straight. It's more expensive and less secure. Well, not a good idea. No, it's...
Starting point is 00:08:03 But that's what they're doing. I don't know if you'd say less secure, but not a good idea. I'm all in on that. Of course it's not a good idea. Of course not. But also notice, they say the internet went down. No, a bunch of dumb apps. and your McDonald's, the McDonald's app
Starting point is 00:08:20 where every single time I go through the drive-thru, which is not often. Come on and welcome, you need a mobile app? It took me at least five drive-thrus to understand what they were talking about. I go through the McDonald's window.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Once a quarter. No, no, that's what we're actually eating. But once in a while, I just go through to harass them. No. I get an ice cream cone once in a while when it's hot out of here. Without ice cream.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Just give me a cone. And so every time I go, every time I hit the thing right at the beginning I say, would you like to use your app? Why would I want to use my app? I'm standing right here. I'm right here. I'm a person and I'm here. What do I need to go on the phone for?
Starting point is 00:09:06 I love that. It just makes no sense to me. I know. Come on a mobile app. They must. The mobile app. Because some guys there can barely speak English down. That's why they're like, please say yes, I'm using the mobile app because you can't
Starting point is 00:09:21 understand me and I can't understand you, Gringo. It's the most insulting thing. Yeah, I actually agree with you. What is the benefit of the mobile app if you're in the drive-thru? You're standing there. It makes no sense, but they still ask, they're trying to train every, this is just this is bull crap what they're trying to do obviously is to train you to use your phone for everything so they can eliminate the drive-thru window and you pop on your phone on your way over there
Starting point is 00:09:58 and then you just go and pick up your order well they've already but from a robot they've already they want to get rid of people yes well they've already most McDonald's restaurants you know they're restaurants by the way oh yes yeah it's I always think of when I think of dining I think McDonald's. Because, oh, I know a lot of the owner-operators. And they say, well, we have eight restaurants in the Austin area. I were like, what? Don't you operate? McDonald's? Yes, that's our restaurants. They've been trying to get rid of people. They have successfully gotten rid of a lot of employees. Where you walk in, there's big touch screens. Then you just, you place your order on the touchscreen. And so that you don't have to bother a human being
Starting point is 00:10:39 trying to figure out what you want at the cash register. And they actually say that it's good because then they can put more college grads to work in the kitchen to improve your drive-thru and your mobile life experience. What? Why is it better to have a college kid flipping burgers? Well, so the college kid can pay for his tuition, you know, the way it used to be. You know, college kids in the burger, flipping burgers is not what I want. We actually don't want that food. We don't even want the food.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And they're going to spit in the food. I heard about you can spit the food. Oh, yeah. That's not true. They're not spitting you. Maybe if they, hey, there's that. The college kids are. There's that Dvorak guy asking for an ice creek comb.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Spit on it. Yeah, nice. So there was another glitch, a very important glitch, so important that CBS did a whole segment on it. What a glitch. The Instagram glitch that was really, really bad. The cyber world has some pretty rough neighborhoods. The cyber world. This is like 1995 reporting.
Starting point is 00:11:55 The cyber world has some pretty rough neighborhoods. I don't know why John Dickerson took that job to sit next to that other doofus. CBS is the worst. How about this? For the money? Oh, yeah. I'm sure he has more money than he used to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:12 The cyber world has some. some pretty rough neighborhoods. Earlier this year, a glitch spread graphic violent videos to unsuspecting Instagram users. Instagram's owner says it has fixed the problem and now has filters to protect younger users. But a CBS News data dive finds violent. Oh, ooh. Data dive. A CBS News data dive. The CBS News data dive finds out. It's the data dive. I think I should try that. A data dive. But as CBS News, data dive finds violent content is still pervasive on Instagram Reels. Usher Grays, she has tonight's eye on America, and we caution you some of the subject matter is disturbing. Yeah, we want to get in on that action.
Starting point is 00:12:55 We want to get in on that disturbing actions. It's working for Instagram. So, what was the glitch? Jack Hughes says the gory videos that popped up on his Instagram feed in February were unlike anything he'd seen before. Wait, hold on a second. Hey, why are you playing us old news? This is not old news. He said February.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah. It's a new report. I mean... What? Are you telling it, wait a minute. Are you telling me that CBS is reporting on something that happened in February? And this news report just came out like yesterday? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:13:32 I think it might have come out today. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. February. Well, how... That's, what, six months ago? How about this? Hey, um, hold on. Hey, guys, uh, listen, we got a, we, we have an internet outage.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Uh, we need some more stories. You want to do some human interest stuff. Do anything about from, um, a couple of months ago, anything? We got anything, guys? Hello, both. I got, I got a glitch on Instagram. Yeah, perfect. Bring it over here.
Starting point is 00:14:05 How about that? They're stretching. They, they got tired. Stretching is the word. You've got the right word for it. Let's listen to the report. Because there's an exit strategy in here for us. Jack Hughes says the gory videos that popped up on his Instagram feed in February were unlike anything he'd seen before.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It's worse than anyone could imagine. It's like I saw somebody getting their head squished like a watermelon. Though the 19-year-old from Wisconsin understands algorithms drive his feed, he says the violent videos appeared without warning. Oh, did you wonder why this stuff was populating your feed? I had no idea. It turns out that day in February, according to- I was expecting naked chicks with guns. To Meta, Instagram's parent company, its algorithm malfunctioned,
Starting point is 00:14:52 pushing graphic and violent content to users worldwide. A CBS News investigation found violent and graphic content depicting injury or death, known as gore, remains widespread on Instagram reels. Between February and April, we identified more than 600. It's known as Gore. Didn't you know that? So why weren't they reporting this in February when it happened? I think.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So we could try to track it down and maybe we even talk about it. Why did they wait this long to report this story? That's the question besides the fact that your theory, which is that like we need more material because of the downage outage. Well, I'm sure they had the story. It was good to go. My story got killed because of something Trump did. February.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So, yeah, of course. That's exactly what happened. I just like that they, it's known as gore. Were you aware that heads being squish like watermelons is as categorized as gore? That's like Chad GPT calling porn erotica. Well, they've tried to suppress using the term gore because it refers also to Al Gore and climate science. Oh, well. And so you don't, you're referring to gore.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Hmm. You know, you don't want to, I don't know. I'm surprised. as CBS even threw that in. A CBS News investigation found violent and graphic content depicting injury or death known as gore remains widespread on Instagram Reels. Between February and April, we identified more than 600 accounts posting real-world violence. And that content isn't just shocking. It's profitable.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Now, here's the exit strategy. This is what I had no idea was going on. We found Instagram hosts a thriving gray market where gambling sites, crypto apps and porn agencies pay to slip ads. between the gore shootings door really there's advertising going on in between the gore car crashes stuff like that Matthew firman is one of those
Starting point is 00:16:48 profiting from gore videos a 22 year college student he uses a dozen phones and hundreds of email accounts to share content with his 18 million followers across 80 Instagram accounts this guy could also be doing automatic downloads of podcasts to juice up the numbers as far as
Starting point is 00:17:05 I'm concerned this is the outrage You get a hold of this guy. This guy knows what he's doing. He does. Average month, how many views would some gory, violent content that you post get? Close to a billion across all my accounts. A billion with a B? It sounds like META's doing a good job of filtering with a billion views.
Starting point is 00:17:23 With those views, shares, and likes. Nobody noticed? I guess not. Furman builds connections with other creators and makes money helping them gain followers. Ah, this is the follower for sale gambit. I like this guy already. Me too. earning him up to $70,000 a month.
Starting point is 00:17:39 He claims a higher purpose to his postings. Some of it's pretty disturbing to look at, don't you think? Yeah, but it's to raise awareness so people know, like, don't play with guns. So you think it's more educational than voyeuristic? Yeah, it's educational. Don't you understand? I'm doing this. Don't play with guns.
Starting point is 00:17:58 To educate the kids. Does Meta make money when this type of content gets engagement? 100%. Ravi Iyer is a former Meta executive who oversaw a content moderation. I don't think Meta's responsible for every bad thing that happens on the Internet or happens on their platform. People are going to do bad things. But they've created an environment where people are effectively getting paid to do bad things. We asked Meta repeatedly about their specific enforcement actions.
Starting point is 00:18:23 While they wouldn't answer questions about our findings, they provided a statement that read in part, it's our policy not to recommend violent content, restricted from being monetized, and add warning labels. And for teens, we aim to high-reacted. graphic content entirely, even if it's shared by someone they follow. For millions of users, the question now isn't just what they see online, but what meta lets them see. No, that's my question. I was just, I'm one of the millions. What do you let me see?
Starting point is 00:18:50 What do you not let me see? I want the gore algor rhythm. Al Gore. Rhythm. Al Gore rhythm. There you go. Algor rhythm. Al Gore rhythm.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yes. Yeah, I know. That's actually a pretty interesting. Well, thank you. That mainly be, well, for a couple of reasons. One, it was easy for me to jump in and moan and groan about the date in February, which is like, what? Are you good guys at CBS doing?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Is this the best you can do for news, quote unquote, news? Is this the new Barry Weiss editorial ship? Is that what we're looking at here? Is Barry Weiss behind this? I got a great idea. Six months ago, guess what happened? A bear from a garbage can. Get Barry.
Starting point is 00:19:35 wise on the phone for me. We need more of this. This is good. Good work. Is this the new Skydance content? Is that what that is maybe? I don't think so. I don't think she's really thrown in yet. And you know, and David Ellison is not getting the credit he deserves for killing MTV. You know about this, right? They turned off. No, I don't. Now you have to tell me. I don't know. He killed it so it no longer exists. Well, MTV, of course, the channel MTV no longer exists, has not existed as a music video channel for a long time. Yeah, well, that's well known.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Right, 16 impregnant and that kind of stuff. Yeah, but they had the good stuff. But they had the good stuff. All right. They had five other music channels that you could find on pretty much every cable channel. One was like the classic 80s. One was all rock.
Starting point is 00:20:32 One was all hip-hop. And once the acquisition was done, Boom, those all get turned off. They looked at the numbers. Of course they did. We had a gathering here. We had a gathering yesterday here, a gathering. About 16 people.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And every... For what purpose? Just a hang out. You know, we're just entertaining. We're just entertaining. We entertain. You know, we don't have any kids anymore. They don't call us.
Starting point is 00:20:58 We don't know if they're alive. So we entertain. We have a great house for entertaining. Yeah, you have a party house. We have, yes, a baller party house. I have a, I have a button. I press the button and one wall goes all the way up and it's out to the screen porch. It's baller, baller, baller, spitting ball.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It's baller, baller. And every single one of these, uh, uh, gen Xers, because most of them are a couple of boomers, but most of them gen Xers. Hey, man. This really sucks about MTV. I'm like, really? Yeah, I watched it all the time. Like, wow, you need a life.
Starting point is 00:21:38 This is no good. Were you really watching that? Yeah. Well, have you heard of YouTube? You know, you can get video music channels. Yeah, but it made me feel good about the old days. So, yeah, I understand. So it's gone.
Starting point is 00:21:54 It's dead. And we even had a report, which this is the funny thing. We had a report that there was a dinner and some of the, probably some of the people who were here last night, We're at a dinner with David, David Ellison, and they were saying, hey, man, you should bring the MTV back. Yeah, that's a good idea. Instead, he, like, psych, he just killed it all off.
Starting point is 00:22:16 So an era is gone. An era is gone. It's over. I thought you still used her. Oh, I misunderstood. All right, since we're here. An era is gone. I thought it was already gone.
Starting point is 00:22:31 What you told me is all news to me that they had these. channels. No, a lot of people think, they think a lot of people watch them, but I don't think so. I'm with you. The number showed nothing. It was just cost. Exactly. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That's what you, if you're David Ellison, that's what you do. You're trying to get this thing. You just dropped a bundle of money. You got yourself leveraged. You got things, you got, you crooked bookkeeper in there trying to fix things. You got to do, you got to take action. He starts stripping the assets. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:01 He could have sold that, though. He could have sold that to someone else. I mean, that guy at the party. Since we're on technology news, this is the, I think the funniest, there was a half-hour interview with Jensen from invidia, which is his name, Jensen Wong, you know him. What's the guy's name? Yeah, Jetson Wing. Yeah. He's sitting in the CNBC studios.
Starting point is 00:23:26 First of all, the believability of this kook with his leather jacket on, put on a suit, will you? you know, put on a sweater. You're in the studio. In the leather jacket. I'm the hip guy, yeah. And so, it's really, it's dumb. Somebody's got to take him aside. Dude, Jensen, man, stop with the leather jacket.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Stop with the leather jacket. Put on a suit. It'll look good. Anything, a sweater. Get a Zelensky outfit. Anything but this. This is not happening. And so he's talking about the money being invested in AI,
Starting point is 00:24:00 which is now at this point completely circular. Everybody's pushing the money to the next guy and then it goes back to AI and then to Nvidia puts it into the next company. Yeah, it's a circle jerk of money. It's a circle jerk of money, but the truth comes out at the end. It was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Our agreement basically entails selling entire systems and infrastructure to them. You know, we're the only company in the world today that really focuses on building the entire AI infrastructure from CPUs to GPs to networking chips and switches of all kinds and all the software stacks that go along with that. And so we're quite a unique partner for them to be able to do this. I guess the question becomes,
Starting point is 00:24:42 it's great for you that sell it directly to them, but they don't have the money to buy it at this point. That's why the deal was structured the way it is, where you'll get a stake in Open AI over time? They don't have the money yet. And the way that it's going to happen, For every gigawatt of AI factories, you're probably going to need about $50 to $60 billion for the land-powered shell and all the computing and networking and all that, you know, everything that goes along with that. And they're going to have to raise that money through, first of all, the revenues, which is growing exponentially, equity or debt.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And they gave us the opportunity to invest alongside other investors when the time comes. And so it's not something we have to do, but it's something that they're giving us the opportunity to do. And I would love to do. You know, one of the things that we invested in Open AI early on, my only regret is that we didn't invest more. I mean, this is the most profitable, well, the most valuable state of company ever. This is the most profitable, I mean, valuable company ever. See, they're smoking their own dope. They really believe that it's profits somehow.
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, he didn't know, he never, he knew it wasn't profitable. That's why he changed this is. Yeah, but it was on his mind. Is Invidio's profitable though, right? They're profitable. Oh, yeah, they make serious money. Yeah, yeah. And then they invests you some of the AI clips.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I got a, this is a clip. You got some AI clip. You got some AI clips. Oh, nice. I got some from the past show, which we can play. But this got nothing to do to what we're talking about. This does, though. This is a problem.
Starting point is 00:26:28 This is a problem. Yes. AI. Google is facing a lawsuit over its artificial intelligence products. Robbie Starbuck, a conservative filmmaker, says Google's AI, has made fake allegations against him, falsely accusing him of crimes like sexual assault. Entities David Lamb has more. Google is being sued. by Robbie Starbuck,
Starting point is 00:26:51 a conservative social media activist and filmmaker. He says that the tech giant has spread lies about him through its artificial intelligence products for almost two years. Starbuck made the announcement on X today. At one point, Google's AI even stated that my name was in Jeffrey
Starting point is 00:27:07 Epstein's flight logs, citing imaginary articles in the New York Post, and also one from Mediite, that also says I was suspended by Daily Wire over sexual harassment allegations. He claims that Google's Bard, Gemini, and Gemma has been defaming him with fake criminal allegations, including sexual assault, child rape, abuse, fraud, stalking, and drug charges. AI usually provides source links when asked for verification, but even then, Starbuck said the AI routinely cited fake sources.
Starting point is 00:27:40 According to Starbucks, Google's AI says that he was targeted because of his political views. Google spokesperson Jose Cassinada said most of the claims, were related to mistaken hallucinations from Google's barred large language model, and the company worked to address it in 2023. NTD reached out to Google for further comments, but did not hear back by deadline. Starbuck is asking for at least $15 million in damages. No, nice. They'll pay him.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He'll get paid. He should get paid. Yeah, but that's low, I think. He should go for the moon with this kind of loss. He should have gone for $250 million or something like that. like a big, just big, and then let them knock it down the 25. I'm with you on that. Someone negotiated against themselves on that deal.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I don't know what he's thinking, but this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yes. Yes, it's a brave new world. I'm glad we know Rob Carty, the constitutional lawyer. Because, you know, we're going to call on in one of these days. There's going to be some schlub doing something with us, and we're going to sue the pants off of him, John. Well, as long as the slub has money.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Well, Google has money. All these companies with their billions of dollars in their circle jerking around, they got tons of money because, hey, well, you just spent $50 billion on this. You got money. You definitely have a lot of money. Made it off my back. So, yes, this is this. I don't think it's going to be the slop as much as this, the hallucination of liability. That's going to be the issue here.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah. it'll bring it down. This whole thing's a house of cards. I like it. Unlike you, you hate it. I don't like it. But I like it. But I see the House of Cards part. It's just, it's going to blow up, take the whole market with it.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But I don't hate it. I mean, I've even succumbed to end-of-show mixes being all AI now. Yeah, you use the word you just used right there indicates your actual attitude. What do you mean? You use the word succumbed. Well, okay. That means you were beating into submission. Well, you succumbed to the injuries.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Well, no, there's a reason for this. Because I think that there is that no agenda records and publishing, because you've got to have the publishing. I think we have a shot. I think we have a real shot right now. And this comes to us thanks to one of our producers, Bill Walsh, who is ordinarily a huge pain in my butt, this guy. He's the guy that kept telling me I was an idiot for invest.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Don't invest in Bitcoin. Get ex. RP, Ripple is the future, quantum. The XRP guy. The XRP guy. Off world quantum computing. Yes. So he said, you know, I heard you guys talking about AI music and how what you really need is a personality to front the music.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And I said, you know, yeah, we could, we should have our own millie vanilly. And he came up with a genius idea. I have to hand it to him. If you go to AshlandSpeed.com, dot cloud, I'm sorry. A-S-H-L-Y-N-Speed. Cloud, he has devised an entire EP for songs that Ashland Speed can lip sync. And, you know, and she's perfect. She's a race car driver. She's from Texas.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You know, she looks good. she could have a dual career and we could be the publishers listen to this does sing and eraser yeah listen to this little country twang and she puts some no agenda in there
Starting point is 00:31:26 it's all good I'm a small town girl used to chasing dreams this is fantastic but you'll even tore my heart at the sea yeah Ashton speed everybody Texas dust
Starting point is 00:31:42 We get the sponsor in there Your taillights faded Left me lost in the chain First stop is Mazda Marketing I'm spinning no agenda Yeah Yeah baby Podcasts my escape
Starting point is 00:32:01 From this heart breaks way You know she has indie songs She sings about Mazda I mean this is great Mazda marketing But I can see it I can see, we can do, we can have a whole stable, a whole stable of it. Stable, right.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Why not? Why one? Exactly. We got to scale. At least we have the Silicon Valley attitude. Yes. Scale until we take over the world. Scale it up, baby.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Not only that, but there will be no other music but ours. Exactly. Everyone will be all in on our stuff. Yes. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I know, I knew you would like it. Whenever there's money involved, John's, A record publishing business has got to be a moneymaker.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Even though now is the time because everyone says it's not a moneymaker. Now is the time not to be in the business because of this. Yes. And, you know, Sir Gene, he just published his creation, which we'll have to sign. I mean, he jumped the gun a little bit, but he's on Spotify now with Amy Claire Smith. Amy Claire Smith, he created a whole persona that she could easily be in our stable and it's a whole album of Christian music
Starting point is 00:33:16 from Sir Gene, yes. From Gene? Yes. The Russian spook? Yes. And he was texting Tina like, what do you think of this song? What do you think of this song?
Starting point is 00:33:29 This is great. No agenda records and music, no agenda, N-A-M-P, no agenda, music publishing. NAMP. NAMP. It's our future. You got to get this off the ground. Yeah. Well, it's not that hard. We just got to register with Spotify and the other guys. And then we'll immediately have a put up a content strike against Gene. Hey, if you're not on a label, we're going to content strike you for stealing our stuff. The strike. Yeah, you're already getting the right idea. Yeah. Being asshole music publisher, you know. I've been around them all my life. It's not.
Starting point is 00:34:07 that hard. You know exactly what to do. I know how to do it. It's not like this is slouch kind of thing. It's not as though you're going to be naive. No. I think this is better than the microphone company, although, I mean. Hey, you can do what not instead of, but in addition to. Don't even threaten. I'm going to. I'm waiting for the tariff thing to settle down. Oh, now it's a tariff. Oh, yeah. Oh, I saw that coming a mile away. Yeah, yeah. You're waiting for the tariffs. Okay. And at the same time, the tariffs are the reason for Dvorak.org slash N.A. still being old. Tariffs. Is that it? Tariffs?
Starting point is 00:34:46 No. Exactly. I knew it. Monthful. Yeah, but monthful. You back. Are you on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Uh-huh. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Hey. Um, so we've been talking about these Gen Z things, right? The Zs. The Zs.
Starting point is 00:35:05 About the Z, uh, Color Revolutions. So I'm watching the 60 Minutes, extend the 60 Minutes interview with Jared Kushner and Steve Wicke. You're the first person who's ever watched that? It popped up for me. It popped. The Algo gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Thank you, Google. So it popped up for me. And it was actually, it's quite good because they go through all the steps of negotiation. and then when Israel bombed Qatar and how that was handled, the whole thing is very informative, completely useless for the show, unclippable, nothing you'd want. Yes, too. Yeah, it's long-winded.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Jared Kushner looks like his whole face is Botox. Nothing moves when he talks. Yeah, he's getting close to look like one of those putty-faced woman on the I've had it podcast. Yeah, it's odd. However, right near the very end, as they start talking about peace, Because, you know, peace is infectious, where Steve Whitkoff reveals something interesting. What about Ukraine? Are you working on it? Well, we are.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You are? Actively. Are you? Actively. I'm just always available to Steve as needed. Doing a peace deal is becoming infectious. People want to do them. People want to get to this place.
Starting point is 00:36:26 You know, it's not, I don't think it's coincidental that leaders are now coming to the White House saying, How do we move a peace deal forward in Ukraine? And we're getting calls from the Iranians. What? Yeah. What are they saying? Peace is infectious now. Who are the Iranians calling?
Starting point is 00:36:47 Well, we're there to hopefully have a long-term diplomatic solution with Iran. And someone's working on that? Oh, yeah. We're working on Algeria and Morocco right now, our team. And there's going to be a peace deal there in the next. in my... Did you hear it? Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Algerian Morocco. Morocco! Yeah, there's Zeds. Yes. And someone's working on that? Oh, yeah. We're working on... We're working on Algeria and Morocco right now, our team.
Starting point is 00:37:24 We want our team. We wanted to know who was behind it. It's us. We're the ones. We are... Isn't that what we already said in the last show? No, we questioned it. it we said we have wow you surprised me the whole i said on the last show i said that
Starting point is 00:37:40 no rocka was the model you said we got to figure out who's behind it if it's us or not we had no proof now we have no but i i did right except for the fact that it's not happening here i thought we both concluded that it had to be us it had we didn't we don't know who it is at all can't you just take the win okay i'll take the win but i did but i want to make sure that the that the fine points of the win are noted because it's going to come up in the conversation. This is not something that's going away. No. But this is us.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Oh, yeah, we got a team in place on Discord. On Discord. He left that out. I wish he would have said that. It would have been perfect. So meanwhile, because she brought up Ukraine, there's something
Starting point is 00:38:26 very strange happening in the EU. And let me see, because I have a couple of different clips. So first we have the new sanctions against Russia, which have been implemented, which is totally going to screw the EU even further. But there's more going on here. The European Union and the United States have imposed new sanctions against Russia in the bid to force the Kremlin to accept an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:38:59 The U.S. sanctions announced on Wednesday target Russia's two largest oil companies, Rosneft and Luke Oil, with the former also being blacklisted by the EU bloc. The new sanctions were the first to be imposed by the U.S. during President Donald Trump's second term, who on Wednesday said he hopes that his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, will engage in diplomacy and agree to a ceasefire. They're massive sanctions and sanctions on oil. The two biggest oil companies among the biggest in the world, but they're Russian. They do a lot of oil.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And hopefully it'll push, hopefully he'll become reasonable, and hopefully Zelensky will be reasonable to. You know, it takes two to tango, as I say, and we're going to find out. The decision represents a win for Europeans who have spent 10 months pleading with Washington to tighten the screws on the Russian economy, would lead to success until now. Aside from a host of financial measures, the EU's list. The latest round of sanctions includes the bloc's first ever ban on imports of Russian liquefied natural gas, LNG, which will apply from the start of 2027. 2027. Okay, so, but here's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So Zelensky's been doing the rounds again. He's flying around everybody. Is he ever in Ukraine anymore? No, it's dangerous there. Why would you want to be in Ukraine? So he's out there in Brussels, and he's standing with EU Council President. Antonio Costa, I guess he's kind of Ursula's counterpart, she's in the parliament, he's in the council, and he makes a big, long deal of giving him money.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Dear Valodomil, as a future member of the European Union, I'm very glad to have you here among our colleagues. First message, in spite of the great expectations, created by President Trump's initiatives that's clear today that unfortunately these initiatives doesn't met
Starting point is 00:41:08 the good will of President Putin. What he's trying to say is, hey man, Trump is making you buy that stuff now. That's no good. He was supposed to give it to you. And Russia is increasing the strikes. Yeah. is increasing the strikes against civilians, against civilian facilities.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And then means that we need to continue to support your fight for a just and lasting peace. So we're going to support your fight with money. And the first thing, this is nuts. This is like suicide. 150 jets from Sweden. Yes, I heard that one. Sov jets. And here's douchebag Doug.
Starting point is 00:41:53 he's back on France 24. Well, meanwhile, the Ukrainian president, Vladimir Zelensky, is touring his European allies. He met the Swedish prime minister today, and both leaders signed a cooperation deal. Well, joining me on set now is our international affairs editor, Douglas Herbert. Doug, what do we know about this deal, then? What's about the beginning of a potentially massive airport export deal,
Starting point is 00:42:21 aircraft export deal. It would be these fighter jets. They're called Gripin. Gripin. Produced by Sweden, Saab. The Swedish government would essentially be buying them from Saab and then supplying them to Ukraine. And the order calls for, you know, within the next three years or so, ramping up production
Starting point is 00:42:36 of these jets. It's a fourth generation of these jets to perhaps 100 to 150 of them, sending them on to Ukraine. The Gripin are basically, when I said their fourth generation, they've been around a while, but they were really deployed in combat, this new generation for the first time this year, actually Thailand in its confrontation with Cambodia. And what they are is they're used in aerial air-to-air combat, sort of aerial bombardment missions, also reconnaissance missions. It's everything really the type of jet aircraft, the jet fighters that Ukraine needs
Starting point is 00:43:10 for its future air force, especially at a time where it's really more and more up against it in the face of higher technology types of Russian attacks, greater swarms of drones and missiles, almost night after night at this point coming from Russian. So I don't know much about these jets, these Griffin Jets. I don't know if they're any good. But this is not going to please the president. We have military people listening to the show that should tell us where this jet stands in the scheme of things. And douchebag Doug winds it up here with, you know, this is basically a hedge against America helping, I guess.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It's the type of deal that European countries have now been sort of hard pressed to try to step up to the plate and revive, because as you see, Donald Trump's been stepping back from the Ukrainian front, no longer directly supplying Ukraine, and rather controlling, you might use the word bullying, the Europeans to buy the weapons from U.S. stockpiles and then supply them on to Ukraine. So the Europeans have really been taking on the brunt. And within Europe itself, the Nordic countries, such as Sweden, which let's not forget, just joined NATO last year, 2004, it's a new member of NATO, really trying to step up in this long-term cooperation agreement. Like I said, it's the beginning.
Starting point is 00:44:24 They've signed a letter of intent, which really starts the whole process. Saab is going to have to ramp up its production of these jets, maybe over the next couple of years, producing 20 to 30 of them a year. I think the initial production is already 60 are in the pipeline, like I said, up to 100 to 150 of them. It's a big deal. perhaps Sweden's biggest airport aircraft export deal ever. And I'll just mention he was in Norway before this. It's a swing of the Nordic countries. Norway's donating almost $150 million to Ukraine for natural gas
Starting point is 00:44:56 to help with electricity and heating through what's expected to be a very cold and difficult winter. So is this just virtue signaling? This doesn't sound like a real deal at all, a letter of intent. I've signed a lot of those. We intend to do this, but that doesn't mean we're going to do it. That's a very European thing, by the way. Letter of intent. Yes, we have an LOI.
Starting point is 00:45:19 You ever notice that, that the Europeans love doing LOIs? I haven't noticed it, but now you mention it. I'm now thinking about it, and it's probably true. Yeah, they do. We have letter of intent with you. That's very good. Yes. So you can do like a trial balloon in the press.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yes, like test marketing. Yeah. And this, of course, this news, is trying to be suppressed, I think mainly by, I think maybe even the Trump administration, this shenanigans with the procurement of NATO? What, bribes? No, say it ain't true. Tensions within the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance,
Starting point is 00:46:01 as a vast investigation into suspected irregularities in the agency's awarding of arms contracts continues. Three Belgium media, together with a Dutch investigative website, found that several former and current NATO employees are accused of accepting bribes between 2021 and 2025. This involves contracts issued by the NATO Support and Procurement Agency, which manages multi-billion euro defence purchases on behalf of the alliance's 32 member states. La Létre le soire knack and follow the money, say the men allegedly received tens of thousands of euros for passing confidential information
Starting point is 00:46:37 to defence firms seeking to secure lucrative contracts. At least three people were arrested in. May as part of an investigation into the alleged corruption at the Luxembourg-based agency. At the time, an operation dubbed Clean Hands was initiated with participation by several agencies, including the NSPA, the FBI, and the European Judicial Agency. These investigations are ongoing. NATO on Monday reaffirmed its zero-tolerance policy towards fraud and corruption, stressing its commitment to transparency. If you're taking bribes for billions of dollars, why do you take 10,000?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Do it right. It's like the guys, this is the same thing of the NBA betting scandal. Yeah, but it may just be the tip of the iceberg. Must be. Just the tip of the iceberg. So I'll wrap this up with a one clip
Starting point is 00:47:31 from my boy there in Canada, Rasulis. As the Budapest negotiations have been postponed, This is the meeting that's supposed to happen between President Trump and President Putin. Andrew Rosilius joins me. Well, before you play it, this is an interesting because – actually, before you play that, play my clip, the Russian Trump clip at the bottom of the list. Then you wrap it. But there's something – this whole – you know, I'm thinking about this because Trump came out and said,
Starting point is 00:48:02 you know, I just don't feel like – I'm going to – your original thesis that he's really screwing the European. here by cutting off their supply of oil and natural gas and natural gas yeah uh and the fact that trump says i don't know i was going to have this meeting in budapest but i i don't feel like it and there was a long this long call between lavrov and and uh ruby that supposedly went well and there was a long call between trump and putin for two and a half hours that supposedly went well and now all of a sudden this is happening, this sounds very suspect. Well, yes. I believe there's collusion going on between Trump and Putin.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah, of course there is. And they're going after, probably the North Sea nexus, but look at it. Oh, we don't need your jets, man. We got these Grippins, whatever. They were great in the Thailand-Cambodia conflicts. Yeah, that must have been a whopper of a conflict. President Trump is now imposing. what he calls, quote, tremendous sanctions on Russia's two biggest oil companies as he calls on
Starting point is 00:49:11 Moscow for an immediate ceasefire with the war in Ukraine. This is happening as President Trump confirms canceling his Budapest summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Take a look. Today is a very big day in terms of what we're doing. Look, these are tremendous sanctions. These are very big. Against their two big oil companies. We hope that they won't be on for long. We hope that the war will be settled. When we canceled the meeting with President Putin, it just didn't feel right to me. It didn't feel like we were going to get to the place we have to get. President Trump also calls on U.S. allies to enforce the same sanctions
Starting point is 00:49:47 and says that he hopes that these sanctions will help Putin, quote, become reasonable. And on other foreign affairs, President Trump confirms that he has what he calls a pretty long meeting scheduled with CCP leader Xi Jinping on the sidelines of APEC in South Korea. President Trump says that he's optimistic about a deal where China buys American soybeans. He also says he thinks that Xi Jinping can have a, quote, big influence on Putin and help end the war in Ukraine. Oh, this is the trifecta. So we bring Putin and China and it'll be USA, CCP, USSR against the monarchies. I still like that theory. Andrew Rassoulis...
Starting point is 00:50:33 Well, it's an exciting theory. Yeah. Andrew Rasoulos has a little more straightforward view on it. But there was a funny... Yeah, I want to hear that. But there was a funny meme floating around saying they had these no kings rallies in these various countries and half those countries have monarchs. Yeah, they have kings.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Of course they do. Of course. No kings rally in a monarchy. Whoops. Andrew Risilius joins me now. He's a retired official with the Department of National Defense. Good morning, Andrew. As always, great to have you with us.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So Russia is sending out drone and missile attacks hours after Trump said that meeting with Putin was off the table. What does this say about Russia's position on a ceasefire and seeing an end to this war? It's very clear. Lavrov made the point yesterday to Rubio that basically the Russians will not accept the situation where they have to go to a ceasefire prior to negotiations. The Russian position is the exact opposite. They want negotiations on a settlement, and if that's successful, then they will agree to a ceasefire and, in effect, an end to the war. And so right now, from a Russian perspective, the only option on the table for them is the war option. They will continue to prosecute the war until they force the Ukrainians to accept the Russian positions, neutrality, the 4-O blasts, and no NATO, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And that's where we're at right now. The summit is postponed, not canceled, but right now we are on the war option. We're on the war option. Well, that was what it always was. They never wanted to ceasefire. I mean, this report could have been done two months ago. It's the same thing. No ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:52:18 No, we agree on everything. Then we'll stop. Yeah, and I don't blame them for that. Because it's, you know, the Russians are the ones that are in that. Eastern European bloc, where they know they, they understand the personalities of the Ukrainians, the Georgians, and all these, these Hungarians. Yeah, all of them. They know what their personality is like, and they, I believe that the Russians think that
Starting point is 00:52:44 the Ukrainians are not trustworthy. Or the Europeans. It's really the Europeans. The Europeans are not trustworthy. And so, in other words, if they had a ceasefire, they would start to encroach. So if we look at ARC, America, Russia, China, and we look at that possibility, the news of our deal with Australia starts to look more like a unified front than an attack on China. This could all be total theater as far as I'm concerned. Here's the Sky News report, and then I have the actual audio, which included a little,
Starting point is 00:53:27 little extra bit. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's time has finally arrived. Sitting down with US President Donald Trump. After the compliments, it was time for business. The two leaders signing an 8.5 billion US dollar deal to invest in critical minerals. These power everything from mobile phones to night vision goggles and solar panels. Grace Lynn Baskeran is the director of critical mineral security at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in the US. She says the deal is world leading. This is the first major concrete minerals deal that we have had, not just in this administration, but in modern history.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And this deal has a couple of things. You know, we've done a lot of MOUs and agreed to agrees. But what we haven't actually had is how do we get rubber to hit the road? Fortunately, Australia has the depth of the mining industry, the capital, and the know-how to be that partner for us. From minerals to nuclear submarines, President Trump says, Australia, we'll get what it pays for. So what actually was said was a little bit deeper, if you listen.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's not just about extraction. It's about the process. Australia has had a view for some time, a bit similar to putting America first. Our plan's called A Future Made in Australia, which is about not just digging things up and exporting them, but how do we make sure that we have across the supply chains with our friends being able to benefit? seize those opportunities. So we certainly see part of what this is about isn't just digging things up. It's also about processing, including that joint ventures between Australia and the United States. Not just digging stuff up, which is what the Brits have done with them
Starting point is 00:55:13 for decades, just use them as a mine pit, but they're going to process them and we're going to buy processed rare earths from them. That's a little different than... Well, that's assuming they have the facility. Are they doing that now? Not that I know if I thought China had the market cornered for the refining and processing of these minerals. Well, let's ask the dumb computer. And is it something that you can do over,
Starting point is 00:55:39 can you set up shop over a night? I don't think so. Let's find out. Error. Does Australia have rare earth processing facilities and capabilities? Australia is ramping up, but yeah, it's got some real progress. Linus has a major plant in Calgurli that's already cracking and separating rare earths from their Mount Weld mine, making it one of the few non-Chinese options globally. Iluka's building the Enneba, refinery north of Perth, set to open next year for more processing, even from outside feedstocks.
Starting point is 00:56:15 We've got reserves, but scaling full chains like magnets and alloys is still early. Government and allies are pouring money in to speed it up, so watch this space. Watch this space. Watch this space. In other words, no. Well, no, she said clearly, yes, they have started, but it does. No, they started, but they haven't, the timeline is not unclear. Well, this is something you can't do overnight.
Starting point is 00:56:38 It takes special skills. I think that it'd be years, and you can't, you can't have a big lag of a year. I don't know that. I don't know. How do we have, are we, did we run out of magnets? Do we not, do we not have any magnets at all? Well, I think magnets, I think it's, well, let's, let's look at the way we do business. with just in time everything.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yes, we must have, we will run out of Magnus because we don't stockpile anything in this country. We do everything on a just in time basis. It was developed years ago by, especially in high tech, developed years ago by Hewlett Packard, who became experts at it. And then everybody got so good at it that Tim Cook over at Apple is a genius of logistics where you don't have to have anything stored in advance.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Yeah, we don't have it. That's the way I see it. You are so knowledgeable. I'm just saying this is the obvious weakness. Well, how about this? But you trust the so-called, I mean, why do we always talk about supply chain? Because it's a chain. How about this?
Starting point is 00:57:40 I predict the trade deal with China is going to just going to go away. President Trump's going to talk to Xi. He says, look, we got a good deal here. I'm going to screw all those guys. Give me some of it. That would be. Great. You know, all of the North Sea Nexus crowd are all loving what Peter Navarro did at the Council on Foreign Relations, which, of course, is a complete North Sea Nexus operation.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Totally. Did you see his speech? He did a speech and then did a one hour sit down and it was really like, hey, to you. I'd like to thank the Council on Foreign Relations for this kind invitation. After all, it's not every day I get to speak before an audience. that has opposed nearly every policy I've ever helped advance in the White House. But let's be honest with each other. CFR has been uniformly anti-tariff and anti-Trump and highly skeptical of an America-first foreign policy
Starting point is 00:58:43 that, in truth, is restoring our trade balance, building our industrial base, strengthening alliances like NATO, keeping. And as we just saw in the Middle East, least negotiating the broader peace and reasserting American sovereignty on the world stage. You saw the speech? No. Oh, I thought you said you saw the speech, yeah. No, I said that I lost you.
Starting point is 00:59:09 The clip blacked out for about two seconds. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, well, two seconds, you didn't miss anything. Here's the second and final clip. Then came the Trans-Pacific Partnership, forgive me here, Mike. That was a good one. TPP, remember that? Obama's signature legislation.
Starting point is 00:59:25 at TPP, everybody, Trans-Pacific Partnership. It's all going to be good. CFR sold it as a geopolitical rampart against the rising China. Yet, the TPP would have surrendered much of America's manufacturing base, including our crucial auto and auto parts sectors to Japan, Vietnam, and ironically, ultimately, China itself. President Trump saw this very clearly and tore up the TPP on day one. I was standing right behind him on that beautiful day.
Starting point is 01:00:04 This is what the Council on Foreign Relations has never understood. Weakening our industrial base has never strengthened our strategic position. Oh, a second, stop. I think that he doesn't understand. they totally understand well I think I think he's trying to infantilize them
Starting point is 01:00:28 infantilize them they are working against the interests that's what he's saying I know but he's saying that they don't understand that they are I think they do understand that they are I think they do as well I think he also knows they do
Starting point is 01:00:44 I think he is saying this to infantilize them I'm not convinced that that guy is that on the ball I'm not convinced of what you just said. I think he's naive in that regard. There's other ways of putting it, and why would you do that? To tell them to go F themselves? I don't think that, you know, this is, I don't think he's that kind of guy.
Starting point is 01:01:07 He seems like a guy who likes to drink. Well, he's in the right club for that. It's 30 seconds. Listen to the last 30 seconds. Well, back it up to the beginning of that little bit. The whole piece? The second part. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah. Okay. President Trump saw this very clearly and tore up the TPP on day one. I was standing right behind him on that beautiful day. This is what the Council on Foreign Relations has never understood. Weakening our industrial base has never strengthened our strategic position. It is only invited aggression. That's why in Trump world, we do not trade off economic security for national security.
Starting point is 01:01:56 We believe economic security is national security. MMO to CFR, you cannot project power if you've surrendered production. You cannot deter aggression when your supply chains run through your opponent's ports. You can't lead the free world if you can't make what the free world needs. I think when you're standing there and saying memo to you people, here's a memo to you. I think you're kind of being a duchin and saying, we know what you want, we know what you're doing, and you know it and we don't like you. That's the way I took it. I did totally the opposite of that.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I think he's sincerely thinking that he's giving them a lecture of value. Really? Hmm, well. Because most people don't see that France on foreign relations the way you do or the way I do or the way a lot of people do and they don't see themselves that way either
Starting point is 01:02:52 because they publish their roster online. You can look it up and see who's on this operation. A lot of media people. It's just, I think that they're just that arrogant. They are. Yeah, they are. But you're saying Peter Navarro
Starting point is 01:03:08 doesn't know that about them? I'm pretty sure. he doesn't. Okay. Well, I see no evidence to the contrary. Well, it doesn't really matter because the message was clear anyway. I think they got the message.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Mimo. Yeah, maybe Trump just wrote it for him and said, go say this. That's possible. It's possible. Well, anyway, the fact is he's right. And the TPP was a disaster. Yes, it was horrible. And if counsel and foreign relations,
Starting point is 01:03:43 help push it. Yeah. As they would do, if they're going to represent the monarchs of the world. And then as a, it's just a beautiful blow, which was, I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:57 when I heard this story, I'm like, oh, DeVorac planned this. Because all you need is hard hats and the clipboard, and you can do anything you want. This has always been true.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Including stealing jewels from the Louvre. French government minister insisted today the security system at the Louvre was working as it was supposed to on Sunday, even though burglars easily made off with a hundred two million dollars worth of jewels. The Paris prosecutor says 100 investigators are on the case. And the thieves? Elizabeth Palmer reports they're still on the loose. These guys literally had hard hats on and yellow vests and they moved a furniture moving elevator right in front of the Louvre, pushed it up to the window. we're working here. Leave us alone. Yeah. This is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Well, you know, the funny thing about this is not being reported much. I think there's a couple of stories is that the head of security from the Louvre was just appointed a year ago. It's a woman that was hired because they needed to feminize the operative. They said they wanted to feminize the management of the Louvre. She has no experience whatsoever managing anything. She was an advisor in some security company, and that's about as far as a gosh, She's never done anything like this at all.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Oh, that's perfect. And they're not talking about it at all because it's a huge humiliation. And then the kicker, the stuff stolen was not insured. Oh, I didn't know that part. But even then, it's like a diamond, everyone I know is like, oh, no, lab grown diamonds are better. All the kids are buying lab grown diamonds for engagement rings. Nobody wants real diamonds anymore. Do they still have that value?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Was that just some... I think that's a myth. I think people want real diamonds. But just beside the point that the whole, you know, the little crowns and all the rest of the worth are priceless, French government artifacts, basically. And they not, they didn't insure them. And this woman didn't know what she was doing as insecurity.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And they was basically a French version of DEI. Yeah. It's a laugh. It's a joke. That's what's so cool about it. Yeah. I love it. What idiots.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I love it. I love it. All right, let's talk about the builder. Trump the builder. You have a whole series of clips I see about the building clips. Yeah, yeah, Trump the builder. Because everyone's all bent out of shape about the ballroom. Now, there have been other restoration initiatives.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yeah, but nothing disavere since 1920. Well, didn't the whole White House burned down at one point and we rebuilt it? Well, that was in 1812. Okay. Well, it did happen. that's all beside the point because it's what they I have to say that they they have one little piece of leverage here
Starting point is 01:06:49 which is it flipped in one of these reports that came these are mostly from NPR where they're all, you know, in a tizzy. I think what Trump's doing is great and I think people should recognize it as an improvement. Let me ask you a question. And it's going to have, it's going to look, you know, like it was part of the building forever.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Let me ask you a question. If this were Obama, doing this, which is unlikely. But let's say it was Obama. Do you think that the right of America would not be losing their crap over it? If it was Obama, no. If it was Obama, for one thing,
Starting point is 01:07:23 it wouldn't be a ballroom. It would be an indoor basketball court. Tusha. Images of an excavator tearing off the facade of the east wing of the White House are going viral this week. Isn't the term facade? Isn't that literally mean fake?
Starting point is 01:07:40 it's like a fake front the facade no in kind of it does in slang but it actually means the front oh it just means the front okay I thought the facade was just oh it's a facade it's a fake front
Starting point is 01:07:56 in front of the actual building the fake part is only when it it it has two meanings so okay all right it's a typical American English word the demolition marks the groundbreaking for President Trump's
Starting point is 01:08:10 $250 million ballroom project. You probably hear the beautiful sound of construction to the back. You hear that sound? Oh, that's music to my ears. I love that sound. But not everyone loves what they're seeing. Historic preservation groups are expressing concern, and there are questions about whether the White House has followed proper procedure.
Starting point is 01:08:29 We're joined now by NPR Senior White House Correspondent, Tamara Keith, who has become our resident White House Renovations Correspondent. We're adding a title to you, Tamara. All right, a lot of changes. already. I got to admit, I saw that picture of the East Wing and I was like, oh, wow. Okay. So, I mean, it definitely does look dramatic. And it is. A White House official not permitted to speak on the record tells me the East Wing is being brought down, modernized, and rebuilt as part of the ballroom project. President Trump has wanted to build a ballroom at the White House for
Starting point is 01:09:00 more than a decade. But this demolition is taking a lot of people by surprise because when the project was announced in July, President Trump downplayed the impacts. It won't interfere with the current building. I won't be. It'll be near it, but not touching it, and pays total respect to the existing building, which I'm the biggest fan of. But then at a dinner last week for project owners, Trump pointed toward the East Wing and said this. Everything out there is coming down and we're replacing it with one of the most beautiful ballrooms that you've ever seen. The seating capacity and the price tag of this project have increased since this summer, too.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Okay. All right. Well, I thought it was interesting that he said they were going to touch the building and they took down the whole side. Well, he didn't touch the original iconic middle piece of the building. That's still, I mean, that's... Well, I guess you can make that argument. That would be good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I mean, if you ask someone, if you ask a kid, draw the White House, they don't draw the East Wing as a part of it. Yeah, the East Wing is... It's pretty far off. It's just a flat building. So they're tearing the part to things so they can create a, you know... A walk. It has a walkway. You've got to get from point A to point B.
Starting point is 01:10:12 You can't do it through a wall. Oh, no. Can he just do this? He is just doing this. There was a historical preservation phase earlier this fall. Now they're in the demolition phase. The National Capital Planning Commission would typically have a role in approving a project like this, but the newly appointed chair of that commission, a top Trump aide named
Starting point is 01:10:35 Will Sharf, said in September, the commission doesn't. have jurisdiction over demolition. Any assertion that this commission should have been consulted earlier than it has been or than it will be is simply false and represents a misunderstanding of this commission's role in that project. When we are submitted a plan, we will review that plan. So they will need to approve construction, but they haven't yet, and the commission is currently closed due to the government shutdown. But, okay, so the commission is shut down. The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown.
Starting point is 01:11:08 The ballroom is being privately funded. Trump says he is chipping in and donors include major corporations with business before the if you go back a little bit, the way that was presented was and the, she says, but the, but the ballroom is being still being constructed and then she changes the topic to it's being funded privately. What kind of transition? What kind of reporting is this? Well, let's listen again. They haven't yet.
Starting point is 01:11:37 and the commission is currently closed due to the government shutdown. But, okay, so the commission is shut down. The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown. The ballroom is being privately funded. Trump says he. It was the script. Like, they's like, listen, we got to do five minutes on this. Somebody left something out of the script.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Cut straight to the money part. Because he used the word, if we've played one more, third more time, third time. He says, though. Yes. He says it, but it's still being torn. down though as it's because it's also it had to be just to talk about that it's also possible and she goes off on some other topic it's also possible they just edited that out of this pre-produced package like we got cut this well it could be like one of my edits yeah correct just due to the government shut down but
Starting point is 01:12:26 okay so the commission is shut down the demolition is continuing though during the shutdown the ballroom is being privately funded Trump says he is chipping well I guess you could make the case that the commission who would have to fund this normally, that they're shut down and then she's saying, there's no mention of funding whatsoever. I know. I know. I know. It's irritating. It's NPR. What do you expect? It's due to the government shutdown. But, okay, so the commission is shut down. The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown. The ballroom is being privately funded. Trump says he is chipping in and donors include major corporations with business before the government. So will it be this portion of the ballroom brought to you by Pfizer?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Well, is that what we're going to get? I wonder, this has been on my mind, too. Well, let's finish the clip. Are they going to put, they never discuss this, by the way. But I was thinking would they put their, etch their names up into the, up in the ceiling? You buy a brick. You buy a brick. Brick house bricks.
Starting point is 01:13:29 You buy a brick. And this brick is Pfizer and this, we, hey, can we buy a brick for this thing? No agenda show? sponsors the ballroom the brick house the brick house business before the government Google is donating more than
Starting point is 01:13:47 20 million to the project to settle a civil suit filed by Trump that's hardly a donation that is extortion they couldn't call him out on that for extortion if that's true if it's true well of course you always have to ask
Starting point is 01:14:04 where does all the fine money go to, you know, when when Boeing has to pay $100 million or when any company has to pay a, where does it go? Into the general fund? Yeah, but this was a lawsuit specifically Trump. This is a personal lawsuit. It's not a government lawsuit against Google. Oh, well, then that's, okay, go back to the beginning of the report where he says Trump is chipping in. It's his 20 mill he's chipping in right there from Google. Yeah, I think so for the government. Google is donating more than 20 million to the project to settle a civil suit filed by Trump. And those are among many reasons watchdogs say this project is a giant ethical red flag.
Starting point is 01:14:45 How does the White House respond to this? Well, they put out a fact sheet listing all of the various White House construction projects over the years and called the negative reaction to this one, quote, pearl clutching. let's let's let's let's let's take one little intermezzo one minute of curl plutching curl plucking pearl clutching uh karene jean pierre abdul jabar on the view promoting her book talking about this so yeah so the people's house is basically being sold to the higher spitter no it is corruption at its core. And I heard someone say this when I was backstage. It could not be, there's no greater metaphor right now than what's happening right now in this country, then watching Donald Trump take a wrecking ball to the White House.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Ah, wrecking ball. It's like you couldn't make that up. When I saw the image yesterday, I was like, this is not real. But why did they let him get away with it? He has all of these people who just let him get away with whatever he wants to do. That's what he's been doing for the last nine, ten months. Like the powers that are in the DC are not standing up. They're acting as if they're powerless, which is part of the book.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Independence, like, no, you all have power. You all have power. Do something with it. This Corrine Jean-Pierre is getting on my nerves. She's out everywhere with her new long hair. Yeah, the long hair, straight hair. Jerry Graham. Jerry curl.
Starting point is 01:16:28 He's got something in there. Hey, boomer. Yeah, all right. It's probably a wig. It probably bald. Probably is. So I was thinking, you know, they did miss an opportunity here. I'm surprised Trump did that or didn't at least give it to somebody to do, which is they're tearing down the wall.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And they're bulldozers and wrecking balls and the train. Why don't they sell Pete chunks of it? to the public as souvenirs. Ten bucks. You could have a piece of the White House. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:04 It's possible. A chunk of splinter, a big, or chunk of wood. You know, anything. It just seems like a missed opportunity. Yeah, I guess. Anyway, this is, I think this is the last clip. Several historic preservation groups have expressed concerns about the renovations underway at the White House, including the Society of Architectural Historians.
Starting point is 01:17:23 The chair of the group's Heritage Conservation Committee is on the line with us now. Priya Jan is an associate professor at Texas A&M University. Good morning. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Your group issued a lengthy statement about your concerns. Can you briefly tell us the main ones? Sure.
Starting point is 01:17:39 When the news of the White House ballroom edition first immersion in July, we started hearing from our membership about concerns about the scale and the visual impact of the project to the existing and highly significant historic building. So we wrote a statement that called for more transparency on what exactly was going to be demolished because there was some conflicting information regarding whether the East Wing would be demolished or simply added onto. So we asked for a more comprehensive review of both the demolition and the new construction. We also asked for impacts to the White House grounds because the new building does extend significantly into the grounds. And finally, we asked them to consider the broader impacts.
Starting point is 01:18:23 this project is going to have on preservation projects across the country being such a visible and highly significant structure. So you mentioned a number of concerns about best practices being followed, for example. You note in the statement that there have been a lot of advances in historic preservation, restoring objects, restoring. Yeah, like all those statues they pulled down during BLM. That was very historic. It was really historic restoration of historical things in the D.C.
Starting point is 01:18:52 sort of architectural integrity and so for then you also mentioned the landscape and the grounds the question i have for you is it is it a legal requirement to follow these kinds of processes for our building as important as the white house or is it more of a custom or a courtesy or a sort of a i don't know like a professional standard did you see my you see what i'm asking sure the fact that everyone's making such a big deal of this is what's interesting this is this is just an extension of no kings you know I mean it's just like whatever it's just be mad at Trump be mad at Trump he's doing something be mad at him yeah I find the whole thing to be fascinating with this this and it is pearl clutching yeah I think they nailed it you know the press secretary girl
Starting point is 01:19:48 you have yeah I think that was the last clip No, no, you have a fourth clip here. You have a fourth clip. Oh, I thought that was the fourth clip. Okay, well, the fourth clip. By the way, it goes on beyond this, and she's, she comes to this woman, this Indian woman who's, you know, talking about the ballroom. She's, uh, this organization, who cares what they think?
Starting point is 01:20:09 They, they have no, there's no jurisdiction of some club over anything that the president does at the White House. And it just, and it's, and insofar as it being the people's house, he's, he's got no right to do these things. Yeah. If it's the people's house, can I go spend the night there? You can get a tour. Yeah, a tour.
Starting point is 01:20:31 I think I was promised a night in the Lincoln bedroom. I'm completely miffed about the whole thing. What happened? Well, don't you remember? Like, oh, you were the first guy to say Trump would be president in 2015. Yep, yeah, you're going to get an invitation. No invitation to inauguration. Oh, right, you got screwed.
Starting point is 01:20:51 No, no invitation for the link. No, you got nothing. I look bad. My wife is like, you got no pull. By the way, she's mad at me now. He says, you're making fun of our guests. Did I make fun of our guests? About the MTV thing?
Starting point is 01:21:07 Not really. I didn't think so either. No, I made fun of MTV. Well, you kind of, I think, mocked. Oh, whose side are you on? The Xer. by doing one of your voices. Oh, I'm sorry, because I never do voices.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Okay, yeah, all right. You're in trouble. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. Probably.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Yes. Phoebe will be in the bed. Oh, boy. Yes. Now, typically, when a federal or a federally assisted project is done, and it has the potential to affect any history. historic building, a process known as Section 106 from the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966 kicks in. Now, this project, because the White House, the U.S. Capitol, and the
Starting point is 01:22:01 Supreme Court are exempt from formally initiating that process. However, this does not mean that in prior projects that have included minor things on the White House grounds like the tennis pavilion or perimeter fencing or other changes, that they have not gone through internal advice and oversight on the project as well as approvals from the National Capital Planning Commission as well as from the U.S. Fine Arts Commission. So there are vehicles, even though the exemption from 106 exists, there are wider executive orders,
Starting point is 01:22:38 other procedures that need to be followed to make sure that the project will not negatively impact. So you just heard the administration's response that there have been a lot of construction projects at the White House and that these critiques are just pearl clutching. What's your reaction to that? Yeah, I mean, it is true. The White House is a living building.
Starting point is 01:22:55 It has undergone various, and it should undergo these various changes. However, I do want to point out that in the list that was issued yesterday, if you look at it closely, all the changes after 1942 have been limited to the interior, and the ones on the exterior either involved simple restoration or minor site additions, like the tennis court and the pavilion, which are limited by their scope, and visibility to have any negative impact on the historic building. This is really the biggest edition since the 1940s, and it's large in scope and size.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Okay. Now, I have to play some counterbalance to this, because this lady was boring. I'm not going to argue that. No, we need some outrage. But unless she had a nice accent. No, I didn't like the accent. The border room.
Starting point is 01:23:44 I don't like that either. I need some outrage. Let's go to end. Anderson Pooper. Good evening. Tonight, we have a front row seat to history, or more accurately, the destruction of it. See, this is what I'm talking about. This is what we want to hear. We want to hear about this is gone to that. This is good. This is good stuff. The east wing of the White House is being torn down. Torn down. Not modernized, not renovated, torn down, the whole thing. And we've been watching it happen all day long. Oh, no, see, this is pearl clutching. And Anderson Cooper has
Starting point is 01:24:15 pearls. He owns them. I guarantee you. Oh, you know it. Yeah, yeah. It is hard to be taken aback by what we are witnessing. If you think, well, that can't possibly be happening, it is. And the president confirmed that the entire East Wing is being demolished late today. We determined that after really a tremendous amount of study with some of the best architects in the world, we determined that really knocking it down, trying to use a little section. You know, the East Wing was not much. It was not much left from the original.
Starting point is 01:24:47 It was a very small building, and rather than allowing that to hurt a very expensive, beautiful building that, frankly, they've been after for years. Well, holding up renders and floor plans, which he'd brought with him and with the Secretary General of NATO by his side, the president added, quote, this was something they've wanted for at least 150 years. He did not say who they were or why this was 150 years in the making, but this is what he's building on, what was the home of the offices of the First Lady, and the spot where millions of people from around the country. in the world have begun their White House tours. As former Republican strategists and White House aide, Rick Wilson, admittedly no fan of the president, put it today, the wing became a geography of grace notes, the stewards of tone and memory. Well, tone and memory have been trumped by gaudy gold and the construction of the 90,000 square foot megastructure, nearly twice the size of the central mansion of the White House.
Starting point is 01:25:43 It'll dwarf the size of the main part of the White House, which it is right next to. coming from a Vanderbilt. A Vanderbilt. Who builds some of the biggest, gaudiest buildings in the entire United States. A Vanderbilt. Let's go to Inside Edition.
Starting point is 01:26:01 There's more outrage today as the full scale of the East Wing demolition is revealed. Most of the building appears to have been ripped away. The East Wing, as we knew it, is gone. Gone. The construction company carrying out the demolition, Ace Co, is also facing back.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Their Google listing is being flooded with negative one-star reviews. And today, White House is... Oh, no, my Google reviews! Historians are appealing to President Trump to stop. We are deeply concerned that the height of the proposed new construction will overwhelm the White House and may also permanently disrupt the carefully balanced classical design of the White House with its two smaller and lower wings. Declares the National Trust for Historic Preservation.
Starting point is 01:26:46 The White House is 55,000. square feet, and the new ballroom is almost twice that size. This animation shows how the new structure will dwarf the White House. When you go to the White House, your attention is immediately going to be drawn and distracted away from the White House to this gigantic new ballroom. It's going to totally overshadow everything. Okay. And then we should finally go to CNN.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Oops. Oops, oops, oops, oops, here we go. As the historic east wing of the White House is ripped down, outrage is piling up with preservationists saying they are deeply concerned new construction will overwhelm the White House itself. And former First Lady Hillary Clinton posting, it's not his house, it's your house. And he's destroying it. And Rich coming from a woman who stole all of the plates and the cutlery when she left, my house. My house. Please.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Well, that's what she thought was her house. Yes. Destroying it. The reader response has been overwhelming. I mean, people are emailing me every five minutes. There's something about these images that have really upset people. The White House Communications Director is dismissing the worries as pearl clutching by losers. And President Trump has not even blinked.
Starting point is 01:28:10 You probably hear the beautiful sound of construction to the back. You hear that sound? Oh, that's music to my. my ears. I love that sound. Other people don't like it. I think when I hear that sound, it reminds me of money. After planting massive flagpoles outside the White House, slathering the oval office in gold trim, and paving over the legendary rose garden, Trump is relocating the office of the First Lady and more, and demolishing the space to fulfill his longtime dream of installing a vast ballroom. Bigger than a football field, able to hold about a thousand people
Starting point is 01:28:44 in an architectural rendering the $200 million add-on looks like something from the French Palace of Versailles. Or, as many critics have noted, a salute to Trump's Florida home, Mar-a-Lago. Trump's allies seem fine with that. And on Capitol Hill, they echo the president's claim that the cost will be covered by private donors. It's not even taxpayer money.
Starting point is 01:29:07 It's going to be a permanent renovation that'll enhance the White House for all future presidents. Yes. Oh, well. Anyway, so it's just the amount of outrage and it's like, it's a little baffling. I think it's, it's just more, please hate Trump. Just hate him. I don't see any other reason for it.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Please hate him. I want to take you into the snap stuff. By the way, it's embarrassing. They don't have a big ballroom anyway. Yeah. Because they do these giant events and they just put up these cheesy tents. I mean, you've been to the White House. you've done the tour of the White House, haven't you?
Starting point is 01:29:45 No, I never have. Oh, I did. Uncle Don took me on a tour, and I got to go into the Oval Office. And you know what I thought? This thing is small is what I thought. Yeah, well, they have a copy of the Oval Office in most of the presidential libraries. And Biden's House in his basement. They got a copy of it.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah, with a little smaller. Everything's smaller, though. It's a little dinkier. No, but I remember. It felt small. It didn't feel grandiose. No, the Oval Office is. is small.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah. So I want to get you into the snap stuff with two clips and then you can take it from there. And it started with kind of an interesting. I hadn't actually considered this angle. John Stewart brought it up with Bernie Sanders. And Bernie Sanders, of course, went to where he always goes. He's worried about the oligarchs.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Well, no. But the one thing that we know is a no-no is like the third rail and why. Washington, D.C. is the insurance companies because they're not really insurance companies. They're banks. And there's a lot of money in the banks and a lot of money can do a lot to unseat you, to, you know, fund primaries against you. They're always, always, always worried about the insurance companies. And John Stewart brought this up in, in regard to the shutdown. And Bernie Sanders, of course, took it in a different direction because he just wants Medicare for all. All right, fine. But I thought it was a good moment from John Stewart.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Democrats find themselves in a place is we've shut down the government to protect subsidies for an insurance marketplace that funnels $800 billion a year into the pockets of all these insurance companies. Have Democrats box themselves into a corner fighting for a system that ultimately to get the thing that you want? that I think the American people want, they're going to have to abandon. Yes. Look, here's where we are right now, and I think it's not been made as clear as it should. If Trump gets away with what he wants, we are looking at 15 million people losing the health insurance. And according to studies, John, 50,000 low-income and working-class people dying every year unnecessary. Based on lack of accessibility to health. Right. Is that what you're low-income, you're working-class?
Starting point is 01:32:10 any health you have a chronic ill? You die. We're all going to die! That's what they're saying. On top of that, all over the country, you do die anyway. You do die anyway. But you don't have to die. You don't have to die that way just because you can't get to a doctor. That is disgusting. Right. All right. And then on top of that, because of the cuts to the ACA, you're looking at some 20 plus million people seeing a doubling of their premiums at a time and they can't even afford health care right now. Right. All right. So your point is, is this a good system? No. It's a good system to defend. To defend today. Yes. But obviously, obviously.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Right. It is a system designed to make huge profits to the insurance companies and the drug companies. Right. Period. We have got to move to a Medicare for all single payer program. Absolutely. Okay. So the two things. One, we need to return to the actual case at hand, which is this is not health care. This is health care insurance, which sucks in America. America. It does. And this, and, and Stewart's right. This is a subsidy to the insurance companies who are saying, well, if we don't get our subsidy, we're going to double the cost of your premium, which just is so that we get the same numbers on the street. That's a, that's a valid point. And it's being lost in this shuffle of nonsense between parties in the D.C. but there are other options. In fact, there is what they call the nuclear option to get out of this. Democrats rejected a 12-stop-gap funding bill by Republicans to end the government shutdown,
Starting point is 01:33:51 now stretching into its 23rd day. Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Federman broke ranks and voted to reopen the government. He says he supports Republicans using the so-called nuclear option to override the Senate filibuster and only require a simple majority to pass the bill. I am now fighting to opening because of the 2 million Pennsylvanians that are on SNAP and those funds are running out. Two million people in Pennsylvania depend on this to feed themselves and their family. Snap benefits expire in one week if a deal is not reached. Democrats want to negotiate a compromise before reopening the government.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Republicans want to reopen the government first and then negotiate specifics. The nuclear option. I forgot that was always possible. They don't like doing it Because then it happens to them Of course not Because then it can be used against them Of course But isn't that what democracy looks like, John?
Starting point is 01:34:49 Yeah, it's not a democracy I don't know what We have to fight against it Yeah But that is an option And one of our guests last night He works for DOD Give us his voice
Starting point is 01:35:03 His voice Yeah, you're going to ridicule him so you... No, no, no. This was a very good guy. He was a veteran. Oh, the other guy wasn't? They were all good. They were great. I love our guests. I'm just trying to make it worse.
Starting point is 01:35:18 You are just the worst person. I am. Here, brings me to an email. Hi, Adam, says Holly. When the first letter came in about you being mean to John, I had some thoughts about how you were chastised. Then you shared the second letter staying the complete opposite. I think both are extreme and one-sided.
Starting point is 01:35:39 I personally like the back-and-forth banter between you and John. If you give John a hard time, I don't feel bad for him, because I know he'll dish it right back out at some point. That is what makes your show so fun. Women don't typically do this with friends, so they don't understand this when men and how they do this. Just so you know, I had to wait until I finished my gardening project to write this because there was still at least another hour of the show.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Had this been video, I wouldn't have been productive today and probably would have gotten a nasty gram from the HOA. So there you go. And that's exactly right. Men do this more than women. But after that, we go drink a beer and we have some hot dogs and we're fine. Women hold on to it forever. I forgot what actress it was that was Cheryl Ladd.
Starting point is 01:36:29 I think it was her. Maybe it wasn't her, but it was one of that level, kind of a high B list low A. She was talking about, she would start, she picked up the idea of playing golf a lot. And so she ended up with a lot, you know, when you play golf as a woman, you're going to have most of the foursums
Starting point is 01:36:46 will be three men and a woman. And she made this comment. She says, you know, I didn't realize until I started hanging out with men like this, how mean they are to each other. Yeah, but we also, we also build. But it's mostly, you know, giving each other crap about all,
Starting point is 01:37:02 A nice shot. Yeah. Yes. Just like that. It's all in the tone. Yeah. It's a lot of tone. It's like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I see you've been at the driving range a lot recently. Yeah. A hundred yard drive. That's a beauty. All 25 yards of it. Yeah, exactly. But we also build each other up. Hey, boss.
Starting point is 01:37:23 How you doing? Hey, big man. Yeah. We do that too instead of, yo, bitch. Actually, a reference to the 100 yard drive would not be. what you just said. Well, not a golfer.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Yeah, obviously, because that good drive is 250 to 3.10. So if you did 100, then you were... All right. So here you are,
Starting point is 01:37:44 like, calling me out on golf ball. Golf ball. That's what I'm calling it from now on. Hey, I understand we went and played around a golf ball. That's exactly the way it should be.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Possible show title, golf ball. Although people won't... Golf ball. Only if it's one word. I don't think it works as two words. All right. So the snap thing.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And so let me just stay with... So our guest, he's a... He actually got wounded in, I think, Iraq. He now works for... And this is a new acquaintance. I like this guy a lot. He was actually born and raised in Fredericksburg. He's a young guy, which means 40s.
Starting point is 01:38:30 So he still works for D.O. but he's working on all the new stuff and I just didn't have the opportunity to kind of like draw it out of him and I want to be fair I want him to know that this is going to be on the show but he says we have some amazing stuff coming down the pipeline but he's right now
Starting point is 01:38:49 he's basically didn't get a paycheck he says it's and I said well what does he do for DOD that he would do about all this stuff he's in the new advanced weapons procurement division And what's he doing in Fredericksburg? Doesn't he have to be in D.C. for that job? All good questions I don't have an answer to.
Starting point is 01:39:11 The only thing I did get out of him is that the DOD guys love Haguezeth. They love Hegseth. They thought it was great that he pulled everybody in from all over the world. This is not a well-known fact. No, that he's had everyone loves that he pulled in all those fat-gutted generals from everywhere and gave them crap. I can see people liking that. Of course, this guy's lean, mean, fighting machine. He says, we love being called the Department of War.
Starting point is 01:39:39 We love it. We love getting, we were weak. He says, we were for 20 years. We were just weak. And we all felt it and we all hated it. He's generalizing, of course. And then I'm like, so you're working on the Golden Dome? And he's like, no, no, much cooler.
Starting point is 01:39:57 So hopefully I'll see him again soon. and I'll get some details out of them. This could be a new source. Could be a new Fredericksburg source for the show. I just, as long as he's not just some guy who's full of it. No, no, no, no, no. He said, hey, check me out.
Starting point is 01:40:13 All my metal, put a magnet on me. It'll stick. So the snap thing comes around with all these people coming online and making these short comments. And it's not just black people, bitching about that. It's everybody. It's black.
Starting point is 01:40:28 It's suspended. Chinese as whites. And I have a bunch of these... Whites! Whites! Yeah. In fact, we end up with the white... The finale of the series of clips is white trash female. Oh, nice. White trash dudes.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Okay, so let's just set the stage here for a second because what is happening, and it's kind of weird because the states, they, if I understand it correctly, the states actually provide the supplemental Nutrition, what is it, SNAP? Supplemental nutrition assistance program. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Which used to be called food stamps. It averages about $140 a month, I think, which can mean a lot of money to people. Oh, it can be per person. Per person, okay. And it can be a lot more than that. It could mean a lot of money. There's some clips in here where some women are bragging it by getting $4,000 a month.
Starting point is 01:41:25 So the whole, but the whole point, I don't have a lot of these. I mean, there's hundreds and hundreds of clips. I'm still trying to get a handle on it because I think a lot of people don't understand that this is part of the cuts that the Trump, the one big beautiful bill did is, okay, if you want to still be on SNAP and you can work or you can volunteer, you need to do that. So it's not a unilateral, we're cutting your benefits. Like, hey, if you can,
Starting point is 01:41:57 work 20 hours a week or you can volunteer 20 hours a week and you and a lot of this is uh it's fraud of course and the states aren't checking this fraud properly which is why there's a lot of you know talk about where it's really going is it going to uh illegal aliens etc um but it seems a lot of the people complaining actually could qualify but now the states are running out of money because of the shut down or at least the money that should be appropriated towards SNAP. I'm sure the states aren't running out of money but there
Starting point is 01:42:33 is this being used as like, oh well this is it. This is going to be we're going to have to cut your money. Is that a correct assessment? Generally I say in yes, more or less. They could do something else. They could cut something else. And there's other
Starting point is 01:42:50 ways of getting food in most communities. There's food banks. From garbage cans. Garbage cans. No, well, you actually, you might be surprised. Wow. Said the guy from Berkeley. But generally speaking, there's food banks.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Almost every little community has them. Eat cake, you peasants. There's other ways you can get food. Get it from the garbage can. Well, the reason I'm saying that, you're making it sound bullshit, but I'm not, you know, there is, you can get food.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Well, but even. reasonably quality boxes of it is that it's not like you're going to starve to death necessarily unless you're like you know eat a lot um but it's but that's beside the point uh most of the people that are that are on these clips are threatening the system because they become so dependent and the problem is the way i see it is the dependency on this to the tune of what do you think the food staff program cost a taxpayer a year 60 billion Yeah, I think it was in a newsletter. I read the newsletter.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you did. So $60 billion of assistance. And it began in the, just a little background, it began, the first round of food stamps or assistance was during the Depression when the farmers were, they had an excess product and they couldn't get rid of it. So the government decided to buy it and then distribute it in the same. in a form of
Starting point is 01:44:25 it was a food stamp like system. Then it disappeared after World War II came back in the 60s with Lyndon Johnson mostly. He's the one of who really codified and made it a big deal. Which is a great way
Starting point is 01:44:39 to enslave people to the state basically. Yeah, that's what was the idea. Johnson was great at that. And so we have people now threatening everybody saying, and the main thing that I notice, I don't have a, these are all short, super short clips. But this is classic. This is a black
Starting point is 01:44:57 old lady cussing. By the way, these are all not safe for, all of them are not safe for young ears. So if people want to skip past this, this probably be the time to do it. Here's an old black woman cussin.
Starting point is 01:45:13 I'm trying to make sure I heard this right. Trump said all the groceries is free now. That's what I heard. Well, you take from us. We take from you. Thank you. We're going to be running out the motherfucking stove. Yeah, I've seen a couple of these. So she's saying she that's just going to steal.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Yeah. There's a lot of counter clips to these, by the way, also by black people and others saying that, yeah, you're a genius for announcing this on the internet. Yeah. This is a woman, I believe, a white chick with a big giant nose ring. This is the nose ring weirdo in her complaints. Just one of the.
Starting point is 01:45:53 42 million Americans who won't be getting their SNAP benefits in November. Going to be a fucking awesome Thanksgiving as a single mother with a toddler. I have so much to say about it, but there's not really much else to say other than fuck. So how do you qualify for SNAP benefits? You have to prove that you have what your income is. You just fill out some forms. It's not that hard. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Your low income is pretty easy, actually. Mm-hmm. And that last one with her, with her Berkeley hum. Toddler. Toddler. Right of toddler. So, okay, now we have a very profane, a black woman. Donald, motherfucker, orange man, Jay Trump.
Starting point is 01:46:48 I'm going to tell you just like this. What the fuck you mean? Who ain't getting that goddamn. food stamps the goddamn November because I'm getting my goddamn shit I don't know about the rest of you motherfuckers but I'm getting my shit because I'm going to tell you just like this on Jesus Lamar, motherfucking
Starting point is 01:47:02 Christ. I will be at a motherfucker Walmart with my steel toes on and my motherfucking helmet and I dare a bitch try to stop me from walking out that motherfucker stove with my groceries. Baby I'm 250 pounds solid. Baby, you want to see a
Starting point is 01:47:18 human motherfucker bulldozer baby because that's what the fuck I'm going to turn into. if you think you're going to stop me from leaving out that goddamn stuff with my motherfucking monthly groceries that I get every goddamn month. I ain't bothering no goddamn body, okay? Why the fuck is y'all bothering me and my goddamn
Starting point is 01:47:34 food? I'm just so tired of his big back, bone head, cradle cap having ass. Shaped like a motherfucker penguin any motherfucker way of bino, motherfucker, warrous looking ass. I'm sick of him. Like, it's going to be an episode of a goddamn snap. If y'all turn them goddamn snap benefits off, I can tell you that. All right. Now, if I was an end of show mixer,
Starting point is 01:47:52 put that thing right into the AI and make a massive hit. She's perfect for it. That's close to Obama phone lady. She's up there. Yeah, he's pretty close to the Obama phone. Now we have a white trash dude. Hold on. Let's listen to the Obama phone lady for a second because Obama phone.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Here she is, I think. Obama. Oh, this is her. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone. Keep Obama and president. you know he gave us a phone that's the same lady it's the same one so she wants to go steal it from walmart because by the way walmart is the target for all these people with rare exceptions so i don't i don't recommend anyone going to walmart on the first of november or
Starting point is 01:48:42 at least this thing is going to end before the first of november it's going to end we'll see yeah i think so we now we have the white trash dude complaining everybody going around saying that motherfuckers ain't getting food step next. This is a white guy? Yeah, white guy. Nice. Everybody going around saying that motherfuckers ain't getting food step next, man. Mind you, bitch, I'm on food stem.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Let me tell you this right now. Donald J. Trump. I don't know what the fuck you got going on in that fucking house of yours. But bitch, you better fix it. Just because your ass going through some shit, don't mean you got to take it out on everybody else, bitch. Fix this shit right now. Let me, let me not get my food stamps.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Let me not get my food stamps. I'm going back to stealing. I don't care. If you leave your car unlock in the middle of the night, lock it, bitch. Because if I don't get no food stamps, best believe me and mine's going to eat regardless. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:32 And what's so sad is that these people are very uninformed about what's happening. They are being taught by the media with stuff like the wrecking ball to the White House, that it's all Donald Trump. It's just they don't even know. And it's just education. They don't know anything. They don't know. I feel bad for them.
Starting point is 01:49:51 I don't understand how. it works yeah and so now we have the white trash female who is the uh this is the last clip is the finale uh oh the finale gotcha if they take away snap benefits in the november and december y'all better be fucking stealing from walmarts big corporations whole foods stay away from the small stores and family own stuff um if like especially people in albuquerque like companies are going to be really fucking mad if they lose money especially if everyone who lost food stamps just starts fucking stealing sounds a little bit like mimi i'll be honest just just the ted i know it's not her obviously that a little bit of that somehow the accent you would i didn't get that that's
Starting point is 01:50:39 for sure but so that was you know she's just telling everyone to steal yeah so but stay away from the little guy yeah that was that's that's kind oh goodness don't steal from the little old Korean store guy. So that's the kind of situation that was, that's evolved because of, you know, and it's all on TikTok, you know, and reels and there's people complaining and moaning and groaning.
Starting point is 01:51:06 And it's like, why don't you, you're going to steal, let's put, so let's say I'm going to steal. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to make a TikTok video so I can have a picture of me saying I'm going to steal. This is smart. Yeah. I'm a genius, so you wonder why these people are, you know, can't get ahead.
Starting point is 01:51:28 There's also people that just, it's just, there's hundreds of these things. I don't know what to make of it. All right. Well, speaking of food, let's go to the war on beef, which is heating up. And this is pretty much exactly what Texas Slim predicted four, five years ago and has been talking about nonstop. Now to the outrage over beef prices. American ranchers pushing back against President Trump's plan to import beef from Argentina. Elizabeth Schulze is here with those details.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Good morning, Elizabeth. Hey, good morning, Robin. American cattle ranchers and top Republican lawmakers are now slamming President Trump's pledge to buy more beef from Argentina. The president says that this would increase the supply of beef in the U.S. and help bring down grocery prices. Ground beef prices are up 13% in the past year. Stake is up almost 17%.
Starting point is 01:52:16 The president says that this move would also support his, ally, Argentinian President Javier Mulei, ahead of midterm elections there on Sunday. The U.S. has already committed $20 billion in taxpayer dollars to help Argentina's economy at a time when, of course, hundreds of thousands of federal workers aren't getting paid here during the shutdown. The head of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association says, we cannot stand behind the president while he undercuts the future of family farmers and ranchers. And farmers who we've been speaking with are frustrated that the Trump administration hasn't yet delivered an aid package for them while it is moving forward with this extraordinary bailout of Argentina guys.
Starting point is 01:52:52 All right. So there's a lot of different things going on here. And the first thing that we need to understand is that the typical American rancher is really at this point just a commodity cowboy and just sells all his stuff to one of the big three producers. I'd say the biggest one, JBS, who is, it's a Brazilian-owned company. and they are completely linked to the cartels. They, you know, they, they've got all kinds of weird products coming in from all over South America,
Starting point is 01:53:26 not necessarily Argentina. The jacket full of hormones on the way up, and then they just label it as American beef. Yeah, a good part of American beef is not American beef at all. Not in the supermarket, exactly. And so what, here's a small tip of the day. If you go to beefmap.com and you find a rancher near you, you can go to that rancher, go right to his door, say hi, I heard about you on the No Agenda Show, Texas Slim sent me. I'd like to shake your hand and buy your beef.
Starting point is 01:54:01 You will find that it is significantly cheaper than in the grocery store, and it's really good American beef. And there's not a lot, it's the minority of ranchers, but there's a real movement for local ranchers. ranchers to feed their local community. This whole thing had, and by the way, President Trump's not wrong. In my mind, it's like, yeah, you know, you've, and Argentinian brief is not necessarily bad beef. In fact, they know, they know a lot of stuff. Go to Los Gouchos.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Isn't that the big chain of Argentinian beef outlet? It's tasty. But what we're being served in the supermarket is crap from JBS, and you got to stay away from that. And I checked with Tina this morning, I said, because she orders from K&C cattle, we get ours. They're in Luling, south, east of Texas, of Austin. And I say, you know, have the prices gone up? She said, maybe 4%, which would kind of be in line with inflation, but certainly not any more than that.
Starting point is 01:55:04 And it's cheaper than at H.E.B. are, you know, kind of, that's our supermarket here in Fredericksburg, which is all over Texas. You know, they're okay, but I won't eat their beef, and it's too expensive. So, you know, instead of, and I'm not sure the president knows exactly what he's doing here. And, yeah, it's going to bring down the price in the supermarket, but it's just going to be more crap that people are still paying way too much for. And this has been going on for a long time. So just go to beefmaps.com and find your local rancher, local rancher, and drive up. And you can buy a lot of beef or relatively little amount.
Starting point is 01:55:49 And they might even take your snap. I don't know. One of the things you, when you buy from a local provider, is that they will, you can buy like a half a steer or a full, it depends by different, usually quarter is the smallest. And they will send it. it over to the butcher who will then process it. Well, there's local processing. There's a whole revolution in local processing.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Well, I don't know what kind of revolution is because it's been going on here for decades, but there are these butchers that process local beef. And once the beef gets there, they'll ask you what you want and what kind of cuts you want. And the butcher and you say, well, I like to get some, the, There's a filet, and say you have a half an animal. So there'd be a flank steak and a filet. You can have them cut up or you can have the whole filet put aside.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Or you can have it done it. If some butchers can do French cuts, which are totally different, some people can do muscle cuts, which are totally different, or they can just give you this T-bone. The typical butcher will give you, you know, X number of T-bones. How thick do you want them? You can say, I want them this thick or that thick, and they'll do that. And the thing will be processed in no time,
Starting point is 01:57:06 and you go pick it up. It's all wrapped and sometimes frozen, and probably frozen in most cases. And then all the chunks and pieces and everything left over is ground up and you get lots of ground beef, which is 10 times better than the stuff you buy anywhere else. Well, listen to this. So for our...
Starting point is 01:57:24 In other words, what I'm saying is I've done this a number of times. Yes, of course you have. With sheep and pigs and... Of course you have. Of course. And the butchers are out. There's tons of them and they like... And you tell them exactly what you want.
Starting point is 01:57:37 You get, you know, you have to... have a freezer. So that's the one. You got to have a freezer. Got to have a freezer. And it's worth the investment. We have another outfit here that when we get our brisket from and our Chuck, Chuck, we just like it from them from Schneider Ranch. There, I don't know, 30 minutes, 25, 30 minutes down the road. You go on the website, you order it. The dude comes to our house within an hour. Hey, how you doing? He's got his, these Yeti coolers under his arm. Hey, Phoebe, stop barking at me. and he brings it right to her, right to her, it takes a check. You know, it's like, I'm just going to cash, check, whatever you got.
Starting point is 01:58:15 It's fantastic. It's fantastic. And it's really the way to go. And if you get ground beef, which is really inexpensive, you can eat ground beef for weeks. You can make meatballs, meatloaf, hamburger. You can be very creative with ground beef. Just another tip for your Noagena show. And while I'm on the topic, I bought for our gathering last night.
Starting point is 01:58:42 I bought a couple bottles. I found it at my local H.E.B. Bottom shelf in the Cabernet Sauvignon aisle. The, uh, your, uh, your tip of the wine. You're Robert, uh, the bourbon barrel age. Yes, yes. $11. Is that delicious?
Starting point is 01:58:59 $11.25 per bottle, which is very affordable, uh, as wine goes. and the international arms dealer was here. He said, oh, yeah, I heard about this stuff. I said, this is actually, how did he explain? He says, this is from some of the really high-end guys, and they made too much, and they sold it to these guys, and they put it in this bottle, and they just dumping their stuff, basically. Is that correct?
Starting point is 01:59:25 No. Anyway, it was universally like, it's dynamite. It's a great tip of the day. particularly for a gathering, you know, and the bottle looks like it's a $30 bottle of wine. Look at what I got for you, people. Look at me. Have you seen my door that goes up? My bottled door.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Yeah, I bought this wine for you. It's dynamite. Everyone, it's universally accepted. Very good. It was a good tip. A good tip of the day. So, okay, well, we got our beef discussion out of the way. So I guess that's good for people.
Starting point is 02:00:04 They should know that. also go, by the way, if you want to have some fun, you can go to the county fairs around the country, and you can, they have auctions of the animals usually, and then the auction, you can buy the animal from some poor 4-H kid who cries a lot after you buy their animal to kill it, but, you know, you have to put up with that. They get used to it. You're the worst. Shut up, kid. The animal gets shipped right to one of the butchers.
Starting point is 02:00:35 There's usually kind of contracted butchers and they get the animal. And you get, again, this is you go through the process of telling them what you want. Well, what I want. The topic of food. No, I was going to thank you for your courage. I was, that's what I want. Oh, you were? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:56 You know, we could do the quickie here. The what? No, no, thank me. don't you thank me for my courage and I'll move this the second half of show. Thank you for your courage and say in the morning to the man who put the sea in the pearl clutching. They'll order my friend on the other end, the one they only missed. John C.
Starting point is 02:01:17 De Morgan. Yeah, well, in the morning, you Mr. I'm creating a red of the ship, see, boost, and graphene the air, subs in the water, and the names of the night's out there. In the morning to the trolls to the troll room. Hold on a second. Let me count you here for a second. One thousand five hundred ninety-seven peak trollage in the troll room. I had a whole exchange with Daniel Brunetti this morning.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Oh, yeah? What do you have to say? Well, first he said that you had blocked him, and he sent me a screenshot of him trying to call you, and it said, number busy. I'm like, don't you know that John had just talks on the phone? He doesn't have call waiting, and it's just busy when he's talking to Mimi. And then he was going off on, you guys are wrong.
Starting point is 02:02:04 You should be doing video because, you know, more videos, more eyeballs is more, is more, is more pennies. He already gave me that lecture. Yeah. And I said, we don't care about eyeballs. We do value for value. And we don't want to be lost to Silicon Valley platforms like your industry, Hollywood Boy. That's what I told him. You did?
Starting point is 02:02:26 Yeah, of course. You call him Hollywood Boy? If I didn't, I'm going to do it. next time. Hollywood boy. I like it. That's why I live on a ranch. I stay as far from Hollywood as possible.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Yeah, you already made your money. And we know. We got it. He still got his fingers pot. With his smut. His 50 shades of smut. Well, there's that new book that came out that I was going to send him a not a copy of the book, but just a link to this.
Starting point is 02:02:56 It's the latest, I wish I could remember the name of it, but it has something to do with the, A woman who gets a job jerking off bulls. Oh, it's a three-season series on Netflix. The woman who jerks off bulls brought to you by Hollywood bigwig Dana Brunetti. Somebody in the chat room, in a troll room, might know. But it's erotic. It's a form of erotic.
Starting point is 02:03:25 It's erotic. Oh, please. It's disgusting. It must be a beast. reality story of some sort, but whatever the case is, it is, I immediately thought it, you know, Danny could cash in on this. Is the book called beef jerky by any chance?
Starting point is 02:03:44 No, it's not called beef jerky. Wow. Hi. Like the minotaur and the lady or something like that. We are 15 years old. Welcome to the No Agenda Show. Those trolls are in the troll room. And they're coming up with lots of, lots of titles.
Starting point is 02:04:01 with this book, which cannot be repeated on air. And they're listening at noagendastream.com. Hopefully they're using one of the modern podcast apps so they don't get screwed out of the bat signal and listening live in the app when they want to. Or, of course, when we publish, you immediately get your notification within 90 seconds. You get chapter images.
Starting point is 02:04:21 You get chapters. You get transcripts, all kinds of goodies that are included in the modern podcast apps. And you are not supporting AW. the U.S. or the global corporate internet, you are supporting independent software developers. And you know what? Get the extra features for $2.99 a month. Help these guys out. They're doing good, doing good work. So as we just discussed, we're not going for eyeballs. Data burn anything. So, oh, if you could, if your video goes viral, then more people will come and listen. Yeah, sure they will. They'll be listening to the clips. They'll never come listen to the show. That's exactly how, that's exactly what,
Starting point is 02:05:01 what Silicon Valley wants. Yeah. Put the clips on our platform so we can shove ads in their face and not give those guys anything. Because I don't watch Rogan so much as just watch his little clips that come and go. In fact, they have even Rogan memes. Same thing.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Or Rogan says, hey, look at this video. This is great. It's just some rando thing. It wasn't even on the show. Yeah. I said, Tina, said, but just out of interest. So do you listen to Megan Kelly's podcast? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Well, do you listen to it on, she uses Fountain? Do you listen on Fountain? No. Well, what do you mean? No, I just listened to a couple clips on YouTube. It's the exact same thing. I mean, you're letting Silicon Valley steal your audience. Now, we don't have an audience. Luckily, we have producers.
Starting point is 02:05:47 And I like, I like our life. We don't have to talk to Hollywood boys about ads or anything like that. We don't have to be worried about the algos. Brunetti's best way comes closest to being a suit. He's a suit. He's a total suit. He's a total suit. He's always been a suit.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Yeah, he's a suit. And yeah, great business you have, Brunetti. You got to go sue your movie company every year for the money that he's pay you. Yeah. Well, at least he's getting his money. But so are the lawyers. No, that whole, it's a mess. And what really do you get with ads?
Starting point is 02:06:26 Like $2 CPM? Please. No. I'm not interested in that. that. And the funny thing about the ads is just to do inside baseball material here. When the first ads came, when the first web, when the browsers came out and then people started doing websites, the early advertising, because I was part of CNET.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Yes, I remember. And so when they first started doing advertising, they were getting, because nobody knew, you know, the advertisers are, we have to, I think you and I would agree that advertisers in general are, they're kind of not. nuts and dumb and uh we i guess we can say that because we don't have any yeah and and the ad buyers are the worst there's they're they're mostly girls just out of college and they don't know anything and they don't care and uh so the so they were getting for banner ads just a little banner on any page and they had a number of them on each page 100 a thousand
Starting point is 02:07:25 was the CPM. $100 for 1,000 views or clicks? It was views, not clicks. So the CPM was 100 per 1,000. And it was like, and it stayed that way for probably five years. Wow. It finally started to deteriorate. When Leo first started doing his shows,
Starting point is 02:07:55 He, early on, this was 20 years ago when he first started doing podcasting, he was getting $75 a thousand and, uh, for a podcast ads. That was for Ford. Well, Ford, yeah, well, I know Ford gave him, he's boasted him too. Yeah, he soaked him. And so, uh, but those days are over. And now I've heard it low as 75 cents down from $100. I mean, well, for banner ads, it's probably even lower than that.
Starting point is 02:08:25 that but for podcast advertising you know ever since podcasts it decides to do d a i dynamic ad insertion it's it sucks it just sucks you know it's like you got ads popping up in the middle of shows like mid it's a midrille it's it's an annoyance is what it is i hate the products they're not that but it cuts into the guy in the middle of a guy's sentence yes it does it's not you know it's rarely it's not elegant the way it goes in rarely times it's really rarely elegantly timed, as you put it. And who wants a post roll? No one listens to the end.
Starting point is 02:09:00 No one listens to the end of our show either. There's like five guys and a goat at the end like, oh, cool mixes, man. Nice tip, JCD. You know. It's true. Yeah. It's same with YouTube.
Starting point is 02:09:13 You know, and then how many views you got. Yeah, a view is three seconds. It's meaningless. It's all a scam. It's all a charade. All we're going to do on today's show, ladies and gentlemen, is complain. And this is what I like.
Starting point is 02:09:27 It's like even if people are listening to three seconds of the show, when they send value back, that three seconds was clearly valuable to them. And I love that. I feel good. I go to bed. I go to sleep with a clear conscience. But I don't have to worry about getting deplatformed or someone, you know,
Starting point is 02:09:46 like having a boycott, you know, because the borax said something off color. You know, it was always his not safe. work clips. Oh, well, BMW can't advertise in a podcast like that. We can't have that. No, no. I'd rather be poor than have that life. And we're not far from it. We're doing okay. We're hanging in there. It'll be 18 years on Sunday, John. How about that? That's something to celebrate. Well, let's hope everyone celebrates it. Yeah, okay. Value for value, you already got the picture. you can help us immensely by becoming a producer of the No Agenda Show. If you're listening right now, you are by default a producer,
Starting point is 02:10:30 which means when we say, hey, how about this stupid jet fighter from Sweden? Someone will know. Yeah, we have to find, get somebody and knows what they're talking about, telling us exactly what's going on with that. Exactly. When we talk about 6-7, 6-7, did you get a lot of people emailing you about this? I did, as a matter of fact, with an interesting clip from some guy who is a, who is a word smith guy and he went on and on about some of these bull crap.
Starting point is 02:10:57 I got zero interesting clips. But I did like the majority of our no agenda parents would send stuff like this. Adam, 6-7 ended with 13 push-ups right after the alpha daughters tried it. I like that. That's a good one. Adam and John says, loose. My two teenage boys and their friends starting to talk slang in my presence
Starting point is 02:11:26 while laughing in my face. I told them if they ever would talk like that again while I'm in the room, they would be their last chill session in my house. They know I mean it by the expression on my face, so they never did it again. See, this is how you deal with it. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:11:47 About a month ago, I heard my kids and their friends start saying six, seven to each other, so it clearly wasn't just to piss off their parents, although it clearly had that effect if other parents were around. As soon as they brought that crap into my house, I went on full offensive mode and said six, seven, so many times in one day that they never wanted to hear it again, and I haven't heard from them since. I used the same tactic with like, when my sweet kindergartner started with that I like, said
Starting point is 02:12:16 I like, like, like so many like times, they'd like that immediately, and I can just start saying like and they hear how stupid it sounds. I hope this helps the no agenda community. But then the most important one from Derek, I have a six-year-old in kindergarten in Columbus, Ohio. I had no idea what you were talking about on Sunday show. And lo and behold, Monday, she came, six-year-old, she came home from school and all she would say was six-seven, six-seven.
Starting point is 02:12:43 That is the simulation's way of telling me it's time to donate. You guys are way ahead of it all as usual. That's true. When you hear 6-7, it's time to donate to the No Agenda Show. Okay, that's a new donation level, 67. 67. And we will mention you by name specifically if you donate 6-7. But before we do that, we need to thank our prompt jockeys who help us out with value for value by creating AI art for us.
Starting point is 02:13:12 And a Comicshire blogger who is always, always on No Agendaartgenerator.com, usually with a but. At this time, it actually was kind of a cool piece. We both saw it. We liked it. It was a no king's protest, except there was a very prominent. Did you say comic strip blogger? Wasn't it commiss strip blogger? No.
Starting point is 02:13:35 Comic strip blogger did the one the show before. Oh, well, this is a mistake on my point. I'm sorry. Well, he does always send butt images. I was right about that. Yeah, you can say that. Oh, blue acorn. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:13:48 It was blue acorn. I'm sorry, blue acorn. I'm sorry, blue acorn. I'll fix that. It was blue acorn. There you go. Blue acorn. And it was a good piece.
Starting point is 02:13:55 We liked it. Did you see all the other images, the little signs in that particular image? No, I didn't pay them. No, one says no assets. One says. Oh, no. Yeah, I looked at all those signs.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Afro agenna. This is AI is really bad. Well, sometimes. Needy in eveness. Erogunis. It's like when you really start to pay attention to what the AI is writing on the other signs. Yeah, it can't write.
Starting point is 02:14:25 It's horrible. It's really bad. It's like trying to write in a dream. I don't know about it. I talked to Mimi about this because I had this process of trying to wake myself up during dreams or at least realize I'm dreaming so I ain't going to have some fun in the dream,
Starting point is 02:14:38 although it usually wakes me up. And, you know, you can have fun. You grab a oozy and start shooting down people. This is what you do. This is what you do. So let me just get. get this right i can't i can't pull it off i can't do it i mean you're trying to wake yourself up from the dream no no i'm trying to realize that in the dream i'm in a dream it's kind of like the
Starting point is 02:15:01 inception movie where you you know it's a dream and you're in it and then you're in the dream and you know this is a dream and then you can manipulate the dream and you know no wonder no wonder brunetti couldn't get through to you you're talking to me me about this on the phone for hours about how to kill people in your dream one of the things one of the things i i i i I know, I woke myself, my subconscious keeps telling me, even though I'm starting to convince myself it's a dream, no, this is reality, don't worry about it. And one of the things that I think everyone should, and I got to the point where I, I understand this problem because there's two things you can't do in a dream.
Starting point is 02:15:42 One, you can't dial a phone. You mean rotary or on your smart phone? Oh, no, a push button phone. and you can't do it. You think you can because it's just a phone with buttons, and you'll just keep pushing the wrong numbers, and it's just like, oh, wait a minute, let me start over, let me start over, let me start over.
Starting point is 02:15:59 The other thing is you can't write in a dream. You try to write something, and it just goes off the page. The A's, the letters don't show up, and you can't write a number down. So give me your number, and then you give them, somebody gives you, give it 577, and you put five, you get the five, and then there's like a, the line drops off and you can't figure out why and you should know in the dream if you can't
Starting point is 02:16:25 write and you can't punch the numbers in a phone then you know you're in a dream okay I have not I've I've got that in my head I try to do it and my brain says no no no no that though you just having trouble writing I think you may have more trouble than just that with this conversation you seem to be kind of weird what I mean you I think it's cool to try to know you're in a dream if you're in one. You sure you want having a stroke? Well, that's what you start to think when you can't write. That's kind of a problem.
Starting point is 02:17:02 Hey, there was a lot of art, none of which, there was a lot of no king's art. Thomas Stribblogger had the one with the Trump and the two horses. Yeah. That's what you're thinking of. I thought that was funny. It was funny, but the joke wasn't about Trump. about Gavin. I know, but it was still funny because of Trump's,
Starting point is 02:17:23 Trump also does a, a dance with his two hands. In fact, he does the dance better than Gavin. So, you know, he gesticulates in a very odd way. There was a lot of, uh,
Starting point is 02:17:38 ace freely stuff. I'm not going to, I'm not going to use a dead guy as artwork. That's no good. I don't want to do that. No, that's no good. And,
Starting point is 02:17:46 uh, and again, everything's orange. The whole page is orange. Everything looks so orange. It's just orange, orange, orange. It's disappointing. You know, it doesn't take much to correct that.
Starting point is 02:17:57 It's just color correction. It's not a big deal. And now, of course, we have AI end-of-show mixes, so that'll probably also be just orange. It'll all start to blend together and sound alike. And we'll be able to track the actual model collapse. But it doesn't seem like we're there. I think the country and Western stuff is already gone.
Starting point is 02:18:16 It's so disappointing because, I mean, The country and Western stuff that we get out of AI is, most of the stuff is just formulaic. It's like there's nothing really interesting. I mean, have you listened to it? It's just like Taylor Swift. Yeah, formulaic crap, absolutely. And there's a place for that, but not on this show.
Starting point is 02:18:38 We expect better from you. Another thing we'd like to do is thank our producers who support us with the final of the three T's, time, talent, and treasure. And that is, of course, the treasure. and what we do here in this little section is we thank the people who are fortunate enough to support us with $200 or more. And in that case, not only do we read your note, but we will also give you an official Hollywood credit, associate executive producer. And if it's $300 or more, we will give you the title of executive producer and we'll also read your note.
Starting point is 02:19:10 And of course, we launched a new promotion, which is a dynamite one. and I think I came up with it accidentally on a post-show conversation. This is the International Peace Prize. No, you didn't. I'm pretty sure I did. Well, we do have the International Peace Prize. Yes. Available.
Starting point is 02:19:38 So tell us about this International Peace Prize. Well, there's no agenda show International Peace Prize. and we will, for $1,000, you get an instant-nighting, executive producership and the International Peace Prize, and it has art. It's presented in a vertical format with art on the left, just like the Nobel Peace Prize, and then the certificate on the right. And we'll see how it goes. But in addition to this, we are sending one to the President of the United States,
Starting point is 02:20:10 to the Vice President of the United States, who else are we sending one, to Mike? Johnson, the Speaker of the House? We have a list where it depends, but I think Whitkoff gets one. He should get one and so should... Kushner? Kushner. And BB? Doesn't Beebe
Starting point is 02:20:25 get one for just being there? No, BB doesn't get one. No, he gets... That'll be our next promotion. It'll be an international criminal court indictments. So... I think an indictment would be good. Yeah, an official indictment. $500. That is a funny one.
Starting point is 02:20:41 So we start off. with our first executive producer who comes in with $1,0.30.15, which is nice. And he says, please find enclosed a check for $1,0.30.15 to boost my peerage status to Viscount of South Felton. I guess this will also in this, I guess this also entitles me to claim the title of Secretary General of South Felton. It does. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Sir Ken of Pencil-Tucky, soon to be Viscount and Secretary General of South Felton. And we thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:21:20 And yes, your title will be changed. Now, hold on a second. What? What? Oh, that was okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. I got the notes mixed up. Because next on the list is another note.
Starting point is 02:21:37 There's not a note. This note is here. Never mind. I'm confused. You are. Sir Boiled Peanut in St. Petersburg, Florida came in next. So Sir Ken didn't ask for a jingle or anything? No.
Starting point is 02:21:51 Hmm. So Sir Boiled Peanut came just under the wire here at $1,004.95. He's now also a Viscount. That's where I got confused. Just health, prayers, and baby making, baby making prayers. But how about you? He doesn't. He doesn't want baby making karma, so we're not giving it.
Starting point is 02:22:13 No, and I, when I spread sheet came in, I took care of it for you. So, thank you very much, Sir Boiled Peanut. You also will be upgraded. There are a number of Christians out there that do not like our karma. Yeah, that's why, that's why I would not insult him by giving a baby making karma. Dr. Sir Otter, well, he's a doctor. We know why. Lincoln, Nebraska, 51538, dear, Dr. Sir Otter of Flatwater here.
Starting point is 02:22:39 sorry for the late donation. Please make me Secretary General of Ancapistan. Ancapistan. Okay. I'm not familiar with Ancapistan. I don't know what Ancapa Stan. But it shall be, it shall be done. You got it. Towers Comics in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada. Not Saskatchewan, but Fort Saskatchewan, and not in Saskatchewan, but in Alberta. 51538, which is probably God knows what. Dubbed me Secretary General, well, he thinks it's at least $1,000. He does. But he wants to be Secretary General of the Republic of Alberta. Okay, that sounds like a winner.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Can I hear the jingle Biden whole load? And can we get some baby making karma, please? Check out what at Alta Hats. dot com for the limited edition hats and hoodies altar hats.com yeah if you take a look at it's pretty cool because it shows a moose
Starting point is 02:23:45 it shows a moose a moose I think a buffalo and then in the middle of the moose and the buffalo is a oil well because of course we know that's where that's Alberta is Alberta's where all the oil is and it's a big and they have hoodies too made in Alberta
Starting point is 02:24:01 Republic a Republic of Alberta Ah, very good. We like that. Very no agenda of you, sir. I'm going to give you the whole load today. You've got. Parma. Brandon Kiefer,
Starting point is 02:24:22 Gerard, Illinois, 500 bucks. And he says, All karma to be passed and shared to the most noble among us. No jingles required. Please encourage flight. training. Yes, I encourage that for every young boy or girl, parents, if you can afford at least a test flight, an introductory flight, give your kids some flight training. It's a good thing. It's a good skill to have. It's not cheap, but it's a good thing to have. You've got karma. I'd also
Starting point is 02:24:55 recommend getting a ham license, which is cheap. That is much cheaper. Yep, and you can get started for what? What are the, what are the, what are the radios these days? They, 15 bucks, I think. Like, yeah, they're nothing. They're giving them away. And you can pop on the repeater and loads of fun. The Sir Recoil, Sir Recoil in Franklin, Tennessee, 350, 58. This 333 donation is a shameless plug to the parents of Middle Tennessee who are exploring private schooling.
Starting point is 02:25:32 Yes. Parents who are interested in an education where their human resources will learn to read, clock, read and write in cursive and know what a dozen means, especially the Florida doesn't. I encourage you to look into
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Starting point is 02:26:27 I think so. And all the decisions are made based on the best interests of the children. But that's unusual. The school has a year-round calendar where they're currently G-3-5. GWA will be a K-3-7 starting next year with, and they go to a complete K-12 program. Please contact admissions at gw-wasechool.org. You should be able to get the EDU monitor if you try.
Starting point is 02:26:53 Yes, yes, I think so, too. I think so, too. To schedule a visit or go to gWA school.org, thank you for your courage, sir, recoil, jingles, goat karma for all. You've got karma. Ryan Archibold is in St. Clair Shores, Michigan, 333.33.33. Jingle request, John's donate. And his note reads, take the fright-seeing tour nobody's talking about. because nobody makes it out alive.
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Starting point is 02:28:40 Greetings. This note came in, by the way, and the first of September, dated. Oh. And the letter just got here. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Happy birthday, Adam. Thank you, U.S.P.S. 3.33.
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Starting point is 02:29:10 214 and a penny. And they have a note here. ITM, we grumpy old dames are dropping by to return value to the valiant gentlemen who have inspired the community for which we have so much. much admiration and respect. We want to express appreciation for the platforms, the mighty NA stream, the troll room, NA meetups, and yes, even NAS. No agenda show. Oh, we're at the end, but they like us too.
Starting point is 02:29:34 By which we are blessed with the opportunity to engage and to raise our grumpy old voices. You have created something enormous and beautiful, and you remain the glue that holds it all in place. That deserves recognition and support. Thank you for your courage, where the sea is for communite. The grumpy old dames, black dame loco of Texas hotglass, and Lady Vox, the dame of the gateway. Well, thank you, ladies. That is very nice.
Starting point is 02:29:58 And please also thank Void Zero for keeping everything running during the big internet outage. Nothing went down on our end, and you were happy with it. Okay. The note also had a nice seal with a ribbon, and they sent a business card, which was done by A.I. And it was yellow. Nice. The blonde girlfriend in Pineville, North Carolina, $210.60. Happy belated birthday, Sir Scovey. Thank you for the many hours of no agenda. Chats. Sharing road trips, listening to the show, and always being my guy named Brad or Ben.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Thank you, John and Adam, for a great show, The Blonde Girlfriend. Aw, that's so sweet. $2.10.60. 60. $200, as always, from one of our faves. Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood, Colorado, she says, the last episode you talked about using AI for headshots. That's a great idea for a LinkedIn profile, but you shouldn't use a headshot on a resume unless you're going out for chorus line. Also, don't go crazy.
Starting point is 02:31:13 Make sure the pick looks like you. No one wants surprises at an interview. Now this, Jobs Karma. For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersink.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Starting point is 02:31:39 Yucca, Karma. And that actually winds up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1810. And by the way, that was good advice on her part. What would you put your head shot on a resume unless you're becoming an actor or something? Yeah. Well, you want to be used as a dartboard at the office. Oh, the dartboard.
Starting point is 02:32:01 Yes. Thank you very much. He's executive and associate executive producers. These credits are completely real. You too can be like Hollywood boy, David Brunetti, and get your credits listed at IMDB.com. Or you could put that on your LinkedIn or your profile. I could put it on any social.
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Starting point is 02:32:56 Let's play this clip. This is the China, this is about, you know, they've been doing a purge in China of the generals. Oh, yes. Yeah, I don't hear much about it, but I'm sure. They don't talk about much in this country. I'm sure that China haters at NTD had something to say about it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:15 The NTD would be covering it to an. extreme. But listen to this. This is a wow clip. A wow clip. Shinkun says that at least four more top generals are now under investigation. And many of those already purged were handpicked by Chinese leader Xi Jinping himself. Shenzhen also says that two of those already expelled from the party last week are now dead. Ho Wei Dong considered Xi Jinping's right-hand man was the vice chairman of the Central Military Commission. He reportedly died of a heart attack. And the other general, loyal to Xi, He Hong Jun, dying of suicide. Now, Beijing has not confirmed those deaths.
Starting point is 02:33:55 And China's defense ministry says that the expulsions are part of an anti-corruption campaign started by Xi Jinping himself back in 2012. But now, the sweep appears to be turning inward, targeting Xi's inner circle. The CCP is made up of different factions with the Shi opposition faction working to undermine his power. Now, according to Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, one of those CCP officials in the Shi opposition faction, Li Chen Gong, may have issued those rare earth export restrictions without Xi's knowledge. Oh, that is a wow clip. Huh. Interesting. So they're falling out of windows. They're committing suicide. They're dead, Jim. It's his old buddies. Wow. That's pretty good. So it's another series.
Starting point is 02:34:45 They're short clips except for one or two. It's just because it's so unbelievable what Hollywood is doing to scare parents into vaccinating their kids. The last time we had the hit Emmy Award winning show, what was it called? The drip, the pit, the pit, I think? The pit. And I don't think we have to play the Brady Bunch again to hear about how. happy the little kid was that she had measles. She could stay home and she got ice cream and didn't have to, ooh, didn't want a needle.
Starting point is 02:35:18 And then Alice got the measles and it's happy music and everyone's jouncy, jolly. And it's, okay, just got the measles. I remember having the measles. Did you ever have the measles? Oh, of course. Okay. How did you feel? You felt bad, run down.
Starting point is 02:35:32 Well, I didn't like the spots all over and you had to stay in the dark. You forget about that part. You're supposed to go out in the bright light. No, not in the, no. Why? What happens then? I don't know. So that's something to your eyes or something. It hurts. It's not good.
Starting point is 02:35:46 You're supposed to, when you have the measles, you're not supposed to be in the light. So now that RFK Jr's on the scene, we've got lots of people, too many people questioning vaccines. You know, we don't just have a measles vaccine. We have the MMR. It's a trifecter, the measles mom prebella. By the way, if you want to give that to you, because fine, go ahead. I have no problem with your personal choice. But I do have a problem with the hit show ER.
Starting point is 02:36:13 And the clip custodian, I mean, he did the last series of the pit as well. I mean, it's really unbelievable. But ER is not a show anymore, is it? Is it not? I don't know. Not that I know of. It's an old dead show. It could be a dead show, but how dead is it?
Starting point is 02:36:32 He clearly watched it. Well, I mean, that doesn't mean much nowadays with all these channels that play old TV. Yeah. Just let me do a little work on this. Yeah. You do the work and I'll play these clips because I don't know when this was from, but man, check it out. Zach, women, four years old, status post-grandbares seizure at his
Starting point is 02:36:52 preschool. We were just finishing arts and crafts and he started shaking and wet his pants. Is his mother? No, his preschool teacher. Feels like he's burning up. BP's 100 over 60, pulse 120. Does he have a history of epilepsy? No, not that I know of. Zach, open your eyes. I think it ended in 2009. Yep, 2009. So this was in the, how I can't,
Starting point is 02:37:14 this at least 15 years ago when I did, I did one of the clip shows that had a lot of this. There was a period of time and law and order had most of them. There was a period of time in the early part of the no agenda era in the early years that we played these clips. And it was, and I remember distinctly one of the lines was, oh, nope, had measles. And it was a Law and Order episode where somebody sued the mom because the kid had measles.
Starting point is 02:37:43 He went to school. They wouldn't get a shot. Didn't get the measles shot. This is when the shot, I think when the shot was, maybe when the shot first arrived, I'm not sure. And it was just all propaganda about how dangerous the measles was. And this was the first showing of that party line, that narrative that measles was deadly. Well, in this series, they had. even ever seen measles these doctors.
Starting point is 02:38:12 So I've noticed this in the, I think in, there was, that wasn't that also expressed in the pit? Yeah, I, yeah, I had the guy said, whoa, what's this? He's got, he's got spots on his face. Well, listen to this clip here. How's it going? Easy tap when they're unconscious. Looks pretty clear.
Starting point is 02:38:31 Cute kid, what's his name? Zach, so count glucose, protein, graham, stain, and culture. He's got those shoes that laid up when you walked. How do you think they do that? You're going to roll him back over? Who is that? What? That.
Starting point is 02:38:46 You didn't tell me he had a macular rash. Wasn't there half an hour ago? It must be a viral exanthum. It could be measles. Measles. Yeah. Fevered, altered mental status, pneumonia? Or more likely, he has a virus with pneumonia and had a fibrocious seizure from a high temperature.
Starting point is 02:39:04 That is a classic measles rash. Debbie, can you hear me a tongue depressor? Have you ever seen measles? No, of you? Of course not. Nobody's seen measles. You, uh... Of course not.
Starting point is 02:39:15 Nobody's seen measles. Really? He's got complex spots in the Bucca Muccauza. What? Or he bit the inside of his mouth when he was seizing? Malik, there's an Elson's in the lounge. Can you go grab it, please? Now?
Starting point is 02:39:31 Here it comes. Grab the mom. Grab the mom. Listen to this. Is that all right? This is Mrs. Woodman. I was in court. I have to turn off my cell when we're in session.
Starting point is 02:39:41 Oh, my God. I'm Dr. Chan. Your son had a seizure and a high temperature. We've done a spinal tap to rule out meningitis. Mrs. Woodman, are all that's immunizations up to date? No. Has he had the MMR? He hasn't had any immunizations.
Starting point is 02:39:53 None of our children have. Oh, boom. Did you hear the... None of our children have. Boom. Spinal tap to rule out meningitis. This is Woodman. Are all Zach's immunizations up to date?
Starting point is 02:40:04 No. Has he had the MMR? He hasn't had any immunizations. None of our children have. What's the matter? Abby, put a mask on Zach. What's the matter? What the hell is happening? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:40:16 You got to get him to the lame car floater. Call the school, don't let anybody leave. What's the matter with my son? Your son has measles. That's not too bad, right? One in 500 kids die from measles. Well, I don't have to play the whole thing. The kid dies at the end. Spoiler.
Starting point is 02:40:31 But this, this propaganda, that's even funnier to me, that it hasn't been around for 15 years. They've been sci-opping people with this nonsense. And then put a mask on the kid. Nobody leaves. It's just contaminated with me. Well, everybody else had to obviously had the shot. Why would it be concerned in the least?
Starting point is 02:40:50 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, there's good news, though, because, by the way, that sounded a lot like COVID. You know, like, oh, it's COVID. Oh, don't leave. Put a mask on. Have you heard the latest? the latest research about the COVID-19
Starting point is 02:41:08 M RNA vaccine. It can't be good. Oh, it's exactly good. I mean, where you, you, just non-science believer, thought that possibly these shots could be related to a spike in turbo cancer. Huh. For the last 12 years, we've been working on personalized MRI cancer vaccines. Over this time, we made an absolutely fascinating discovery, which is even if the
Starting point is 02:41:40 mRNA is completely nonspecific to a patient's cancer, that MRI could wake up the sleeping giant that is the immune system to fight cancer. We discovered this in mouse and a brilliant graduate student who was working with us, Adam Griffin, who's now at MD Anderson, asked a brilliant question, which is if non-specific MRNA vaccines can wake up the immune system against cancer. What happens to patients receiving the COVID-19 MRI vaccine? What happens to those patients who are also receiving conventional immunotherapies? And the results were absolutely remarkable.
Starting point is 02:42:23 Patients with some of the most aggressive forms of skin and lung cancer had a near doubling in survival outcome. if they received these COVID-19 MRNA vaccines within 100 days of also receiving conventional immunotherapy. This is one of the most exciting observations I have seen in my 20-year career as a cancer researcher. I think the confirmatory work in a prospective trial is of the utmost importance and urgency. The notion that we may be able to use a simple vaccine to awaken a patient's immune response to better fight their disease may totally change the way we think about treating cancer for the foreseeable future. Now, through the One Florida Consortium, we're working to prove these results definitively in a phase three randomized control trial.
Starting point is 02:43:09 And if proven to be true, this could revolutionize the field of cancer by allowing something like a universal cancer vaccine to be instantly available to patients around the globe, to wake up their immune system, and now keep it active with some of the conventional therapies available. Hey, Bill, Bill, Bill, we got a problem with these M RNA COVID-19 vaccines. First of all, we got too many of them. People aren't taking them. We got to come up with something so people will want these things. You got any ideas? Yeah, let's put a piano player in the background for starters. The hell is that all about?
Starting point is 02:43:49 It's soothing. It makes you feel good. Yeah, we'll just tell everybody that it actually cures cancer. Hey, that's great, Bill. Good job. I got another one for you. How can we profit off of all of these opioid-addicted human resources? Let me think, Bill.
Starting point is 02:44:09 Maybe if we sold them something that could use instead of that, would that be one? Yeah, I got it. Let's call it sublocade. Opioid addiction gets between you and what you love. Once monthly sublocate may help you move forward in your recovery. Sublicate, with counseling and psychosocial support, treats moderate to severe opioid addiction and adults started on an oral dose of buprenorphine, or already on buprenorphine. Sublicate is just one dose that lasts all month long with no complete detox required.
Starting point is 02:44:43 upin should be started after the first signs of withdrawal. Sublicate may cause harm or death if injected in a vein. As an opioid, it may cause serious life-threatening breathing problems. Ask about naloxone for opioid overdose. Get emergency help right away if you're faint, dizzy, sleepy, confused, have problems breathing, seeing, or talking, or if naloxone is given. Don't take with other opioids, benzos, alcohol, or other drugs, including street drugs. This can cause severe drowsiness, decreased awareness, breathing problems, coma, and death. In emergencies, tell medical staff you're on sublocate for opioid dependence.
Starting point is 02:45:11 This isn't a full list of risks and side effects. Talk to your doctor and read patient label for more information. I would love to hear from some of our producers. And I know some of them struggle with opioid addiction. Have you tried these sublocade? This is, this seems wrong to me. It's like, isn't this basically like the methadone bus or the, you know, morphine replacement? It doesn't seem like you're...
Starting point is 02:45:36 I have no idea. I've never even heard of this until now. Bufrenorphine. Buprenorphine. There you go. Buprenorphine. Extended release injection. But don't inject it into your vein.
Starting point is 02:45:51 they say, because that could be bad. I know we have people struggling with addiction. I'd like to know if you've tried it, if it helps. Because it seems to me like these guys are just ghouls jumping on the bandwagon. Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. Yeah. And then the final one, which I just, this is great, particularly because I live in a state where for some reason our governor will not follow the governors of other states like Florida
Starting point is 02:46:18 and ban spraying stuff in the air. So many chem trails. The whole theory goes out the window of the government shut down, no chem trails, because there were a lot of chem trails in the past few days. Just floating down to the ground. Oh, you actually saw droplets coming to the ground? You actually saw that from 30,000 feet?
Starting point is 02:46:42 But it came down and to the ground? It's not 30,000 feet, John. It literally floats down to the ground. It's not 30,000. feet. You're confused. These are trails that form, you know, like a little wash of cloud and they just drift to the ground. Yes. I saw that in California when I lived there. These things float to the ground. That's why they're not vapor trails. Clearly, I don't know what's in them, but it's not a vapor trail. So, yes, I did see that. And it's all over Texas. But now in that,
Starting point is 02:47:15 huh? Well, Texas probably needs to be sprayed. See, this is when people understand that you are horrible and mean to me. This is exactly an example. But the USDA has even better things now for your protection and your safety. There have been multiple reports of rabies around the Metro Atlanta area just this year alone. And so the USDA says they're doing something. They're going to try to nip the problem in the blood right there at the source. So they're going to be dropping 700,000 oral pills that are supposed to target,
Starting point is 02:47:48 raccoons in our area. And what they'll do is it'll stop the spread of rabies by trying to build immunity in those raccoons. So let's head over to a map that has been put on the USDA as well. They're dropping 700,000 rabies pills, dropping them from the sky. This is something that you can ask. They're just going to bomb the area with rabies pills. Yes.
Starting point is 02:48:08 So in other words, on your roof, you're going to hear a bunch of clinking. Well. And a bunch of pills are going to roll off the roof and there's going to be a little ring of pills that the dog can eat. Is that what you're saying here? So let's head over to a map that has been put on the USDA's website. This is something that you can access right there at home. If you see the red here, that is where some of these pills have already been dropped.
Starting point is 02:48:28 They're going to be coming from helicopters and airplanes flying over our areas. So red is where it's already been. Gray is where they still have to go. When is this going to happen? October 14th and October 15th, that's when helicopters will be dropping those pills. And then again, on October 21st through October 28th, they're going to be. some planes dropping the same pills. If they happen to land in your neighborhood,
Starting point is 02:48:54 do not touch them, do not move them. They're not there for you. They're there for the raccoons to make sure that you and your fur babies don't get infected. What could possibly go wrong? This is in Texas? No, this is Virginia. That was Virginia.
Starting point is 02:49:09 Yeah. I think they're trying to, there's something else going on. This is bull crap. Well, yeah. It's not good. I don't think it's- of pills from this guy. And what's going to, what is a raccoon going to do?
Starting point is 02:49:22 He sees these things say, hey, hey, Phil, what are you thinking about these little pills they've dropped all over the because are we supposed to eat these things? I wouldn't eat it. The raccoons. Well, the raccoons eat everything they see? I guess. Well, there's a, but they must be eating a lot of rocks.
Starting point is 02:49:40 I don't know. I don't know. This doesn't sound right. So you sent me a clip of, anti-immigration protest in Amsterdam. I'm very bummed out by what happened. Literally this morning, because I saved it and like, okay,
Starting point is 02:50:02 and I watched it. And I was like, okay, I was going to get a couple of clips from it. I am watching the clip. And all of a sudden, and I'm actually, I got about a minute and a half. I'm clipping this one bit. And then, poof, it says, I don't remember exactly what I said,
Starting point is 02:50:17 but it said this video is no longer available. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Yeah, pulled the video right out from under you, the rug right from out of it. I'm irked by this because I sent it to you. I could have clip some stuff out of there and I should have. It was... Although it was mostly an hour-long presentation of some...
Starting point is 02:50:33 of one of these independent journalists showing all kinds of crazy stuff going on in Holland, but you did get to watch it before you started trying to clip it? Yeah, well, I actually got one clip, which will be worth it, because there's a bunch of Dutch people. And this is what I've been saying. I was saying the Dutch are fed up with the, it is legal migration because they, they keep chanting about the ACZs, the ASEAL-ZCs, A-Z-C's, A-Z-C's, A-Z-Ces, so it's the asylum-seekers centers,
Starting point is 02:51:05 which are placed all over the country. It's creating a huge mess. It's very similar to the UK with their migrant hotels. It's all part of the same program, the same system. And now the Dutch, which, as the video was titled, hooligans, football hooligans, well, there's a lot of just normal citizens who are mad about this, and they're fed up, and here's what I was able to clip from it.
Starting point is 02:51:31 What's happening to the Netherlands? The Netherlands is rising up against mass immigration, but our country is not safe anymore for our children, and that's why are we walking here? What crimes have you seen? You say it's not safe anymore? Murder from Lisa. to sexual abuse
Starting point is 02:51:49 to a lot of other stuff and we won't want that in our country we want safety for our children Is that in Amsterdam or across the Netherlands would you say? Across the Netherlands. On August 20th, a 17-year-old Dutch girl named Lisa was stabbed to death while cycling home to a village just outside Amsterdam after a night out.
Starting point is 02:52:08 Police later arrested a 22-year-old man who came into the country illegally with no ID. People that come here, they commit more crimes, you believe? Yeah, yeah. look a few years ago in Paris it was all normal now if you go to Paris all scammers all immigration guys and they come to
Starting point is 02:52:25 the Netherlands from Paris they don't need a passport they want money here and then they go back you accept our norms of values our loss then there's never be a problem do you think the Netherlands need to start deporting people who commit crimes not from this country
Starting point is 02:52:41 we are not doing that here I think that from Africa only criminals are coming Yeah. Two women, et cetera, et cetera. So you don't think they send their best? No, no, no, no, no, no. So extramation is being sponsored. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:01 Without enemy, no hero. You can think about it. So you guys are the heroes? When you come up for your own, for your own, you're always a hero. You have to protect your own. And then your neighbor. No, this is a big movement. But there's a couple of things I wanted to point out.
Starting point is 02:53:23 One, they also interviewed a bunch of people on the side who were against the, against the protest. I was at that part where it went when the video became unavailable. Sucked. And those are the same, and they represented the same people that hate Trump. Yes. They were the same kind of lefties. Oh, the migrants are good for the diversity of the country. They're not doing anything wrong.
Starting point is 02:53:49 They're here legally. There's a shame that this is happening to them. And I don't see a problem. Yeah. And there's that group. And they're Dutch. Mm-hmm. And then there's also the question I had about the orange flag, which seems to me
Starting point is 02:54:06 that would be the flag they'd have because the orange is a big color there. Yes. It's like the orange is their color. Yes. And so there's an orange, white, and blue flag. And then there's the red white and blue flag, which, is the official flag, but the orange flag, they're saying, look at these guys are carrying the orange.
Starting point is 02:54:22 It reminds you that British flag, the cross, the red cross on the white background. Yeah, the, what's it called? The old, the UK, the Britain flag. The old flag, yes. The old flag. And not the UK flag, but Britain. And so they had people saying, that's a Nazi flag. And it also, a lot of them had a V and they had two little circles over the legs of the V.
Starting point is 02:54:46 I didn't see that part. I didn't see that. That was there. And they say, well, that's the flag. The orange flag is the one that the Nazis flew during their occupation. And so there's a bunch of fascists. These are fascists and we need to stop them. Well, orange is because of the House of Orange, because the Dutch royal family is orange and that is still seen as patriotic.
Starting point is 02:55:09 But considering the North Sea nexus, I would question that. I'm bummed. I'm bummed that I couldn't see the rest of that video. It was an hour long. I was excited about getting good clips from it. But this is bubbling up everywhere in the EU. People are sick and tired of it. They're sick and tired of the freedom of movement of these immigrants.
Starting point is 02:55:32 Like you heard, hey, they're in Paris, the scammers. They come down here. They scam us. They go back down to Paris all over the place. And so Queen Ursula had to make mention of this. but she, and these people come into the country legally. That is true. They're not illegal immigrants.
Starting point is 02:55:52 They are asylum seekers. She is a difference. That's what they tried here. Asylum. I have asylum. No, you want asylum. You have to go through the actual approved port. Yeah, but I got asylum.
Starting point is 02:56:04 The minute I put my feet on American soil, I have asylum. Nope. And everything else is not illegal immigration. It's irregular immigration. Yes, the number of irregular arrivals continues to decline. That is good. That is good. Policies are working.
Starting point is 02:56:25 But there is a sense of frustration among Europeans. The accumulated pressure over the years has put a strain on member states' resources. And I want to be very clear that our rules are also very clear. Legal migration is welcome. and we will need more of it. We need more of it. Do you hear what she's saying? Legal migration, which is the asylum seekers, is welcome,
Starting point is 02:56:52 and we will need more of it because we're going to kill you, people who live in Europe. We're bringing in a whole new replacement. This is just what she's saying. Very clear. Legal migration is welcome, and we will need more of it. But illegal migration is not, and we cannot tolerate the smugglers and treas. traffickers working against our rules. And there is a feeling that our rules are not always enforced.
Starting point is 02:57:22 So we all must to do something against this. Yes, we all must to do something we much for this be committed. Now, they're not going to stop anything, anything. And I know that my friends in Holland, they applaud President Trump. They're like, hey, man, it looks like a mess. But I think it's good what he's doing. That's what you voted for. Unfortunately, we didn't really vote for more expensive knock-off handbags and Rolexes.
Starting point is 02:57:55 Tonight, an immigration crackdown in New York City as federal agents descended on Canal Street, famous for its bargain shopping and knock-off designer goods and parts of Chinatown. The raid, part of an operation targeting illegal street vending, the scene turning chaotic as agents made arrests and pushed. back the crowd. I don't know! I don't know! And it's gotten a little hairy at points with people running, people falling down
Starting point is 02:58:20 in the street, and federal agents running after them. The traffic coming to a standstill at the start of rush hour with cars trapped between law enforcement officers. The people selling those knockoff goods are often migrants, which means that federal investigations here often include a component of immigration enforcement.
Starting point is 02:58:36 It comes amid heavy federal presence in cities across the country, from New York to Chicago to Los Angeles. where today Homeland Security officials say a U.S. Marshal and a suspected undocumented immigrant with a criminal record were both shot and wounded during a targeted traffic stop. This is 20th and Trinity. It looks like they wedged the vehicle. Shots were fire. The windows were blown out. DHS officials say agents used a standard pit maneuver to detain the suspect who had escaped custody in the past.
Starting point is 02:59:04 They say this time when the man rammed a federal vehicle trying to evade arrest, officers opened fire hitting him in the elbow. A bullet ricocheting into the hand of the gun. of the U.S. Marshall. Both men were hospitalized. The suspect, a TikToker known as Richard L.A. 18, is an influencer known for capturing video of these ice operations in L.A., even recognized by the city of L.A. for his contributions to the community. Last week, this dramatic Border Patrol chase of a suspect through a Chicago neighborhood ended with a pit maneuver, the operation sparking anti-ice clashes between protesters and
Starting point is 02:59:37 federal agents. A federal judge in Chicago concerned about aggressive tactics, restricting the use of tear gas and ordering agents to wear body cameras. That's pretty brazen man. The TikToker is just here illegally and then the city of L.A. is like... Gave an award. Good man. Probably got a YouTube award too. Hang on
Starting point is 02:59:56 your wall. Here you go. Good work. Interestingly, according to CNN, this has not hurt the president's polling for what it's worth. You know, we speak about Donald Trump shutdowns, net approval rating. We're talking 20 days into it. No, this is the shutdown, I guess.
Starting point is 03:00:11 2018 slash 2019, Donald Trump's not approval rating was already falling. The shutdown was eating in and it was popular support. It was down three points already at this particular point and would fall considerably more. It was very much on the decline. You come over to this side of the screen, this shutdown hasn't eaten and the Donald Trump support at all. His net approval rating is actually up a point in in terms of his popular support. So the bottom line is this. The first shutdown during Trump's first term, 2018, 2019 was hurting Donald Trump.
Starting point is 03:00:41 This one is not hurting him at all. There's no real reason Donald Trump might say, at least when it comes to popular support, I want to get out of the shutdown. Yeah, it was about the shutdown. Sorry, I thought it was about immigration. Doesn't matter. Polling is up. Polling is up.
Starting point is 03:00:54 Pulling is down. It's polling. It's polling. Of course it is. It's polling. We love it. I have a couple of screwball clips. I do a guy.
Starting point is 03:01:03 The guy's a dead body swap clip is one of my favorites here. You know, they're swapping corpses now. Orpses, I know. Israel and Hamas are exchanging the remains of dead bodies. The two sides are doing so as part of President Trump's ceasefire plan for Gaza. NPR's Anas Baba reports from Gaza, where 54 of the bodies handed over by Israel were buried today without identification or closure for families. Unlike the remains of Israeli hostages identified using DNA and Medicare records, the Palestinian corpses arrived with no names and no identifying data. Gaza's whole system, including lapse, has been decimated by war. Dr. Munir al-Borch, head of Gaza's hospital, says many bodies showed signs of being crushed by tanks, skulls shattered, chests flattened. I want to drink your blood. Israeli authorities have not responded to requests for comment.
Starting point is 03:01:58 I'm glad we got that clip and you put so much effort into it. Actually, so, Secretary... How does a guy like that get a job? on NPR. So Secretary Rubio is in Israel today. He's mad. He's mad. Because the Israelis
Starting point is 03:02:18 they're doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. They're annexing more land. This was not the deal. Departing Washington for Israel, U.S. Secretary of State, Marco Rubio gave a stark warning. An Israeli
Starting point is 03:02:33 annexation of the West Bank would threaten President Donald Trump's Gaza deal. His comments came after the Israeli Parliament voted Wednesday to advance two annexation bills. According to Jerusalem Post, the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had requested that the discussion be postponed. The proposals pushed by far-right ministers would extend Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank. The first bill would annex Malé Adumim, a large settlement of 40,000 east of Jerusalem. The second would annex the entire West Bank.
Starting point is 03:03:11 Hamas and several Arab states quickly condemned Wednesday's vote. The kingdom stresses its complete rejection of all settlement and expansionist violations, perpetrated by the Israeli occupation authorities. Marco Rubio's trip to Israel comes as J.D. Vance is currently visiting the country. The U.S. Vice President expressed cautious optimism about King's, keeping the piece on track. But the Knesset's vote, along with accusations of truth's violations, raises concerns over an already fragile ceasefire.
Starting point is 03:03:45 The two bills will now move forward for further readings in Parliament. Eh, dummies. Why do they do this? It's not helping anything. I think Netanyahu is still irked. He's against it. He said he didn't want this. Well, according to the report, whatever.
Starting point is 03:04:09 You don't know. You don't know. The way they do this stuff. But have you noticed a sharp decline in anti-Israel sentiment in the podcast sphere? Well, it says I'm not the podcast expert that you are. I haven't noticed this, but it doesn't surprise me. I will mention, by the way, going back to that Dutch video that got taken down, There was an awful lot of Dutch again.
Starting point is 03:04:37 People hang in Palestinian flags during this protest and throwing eggs at the protesters. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I noticed that. But we also haven't seen a lot of from the river to the sea protests that seems to have died down. In fact, I thought you would be rather upset about Candace Owen taking a break. I didn't know anything about this. Oh, she's taken a break.
Starting point is 03:05:03 I'd be upset. I don't clip her. You love Candace Owens. You're a fan. She's like the Rihanna of podcasting. I thought you would love her. I am not a fan of Candice Owens. I tried to get her to do an interview years ago and she wouldn't do any. She was stiffed us.
Starting point is 03:05:20 No. You know, the vibes I get is that this is another example of let's use a black woman to front run everything for us and then we'll just drop her when we don't need her anymore. with her whole extended family of British royalty and barony, et cetera. So now she's taking a break. I have it on good authority that her, this husband of hers is this farmer guy? Yeah. And this is from somebody in D.C.
Starting point is 03:05:50 Mm-hmm. And he's been, he hits on, he hits on the men. Oh, you had this on good authority. And it's on good authority. So he's hitting for the other team behind her back, is what you're saying. Well, he could be a switch hitter. And so here she is taking a break, announcing her break. But he has to be a switch hitter, by the way.
Starting point is 03:06:13 She's got four kids, you know, when they got them and married for like two years. Yeah. And she's cranked out four babies already. Are you sure? I thought she only had two. No, I think, let's look it up. She's got at least three. I think it's four up to four.
Starting point is 03:06:26 Well, she leaves with a parting blow towards Israel and somewhat towards. towards President Trump as she takes her break. I just really needed to just take a breather and really process everything that happened with Charlie and what it kind of means in terms of where we are. And I think it is a circumstance where we all, we just know. We just know that he was truly betrayed in one of the most egregious ways that I think I've ever seen. It has made me lose faith in politics.
Starting point is 03:06:58 It has made me fully lose faith in Trump. And I'm just like, I just, my heart aches for the fact what he gave so much of his life to Trump into politics. And they just were like, nope, that is it. And he serves us or it doesn't serve us and we want to move on. And so here's a holiday. Bro, if they try to give me a holiday, what is what them giving people a holiday after they kill them? Why is that a thing? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:07:21 Like, oh, Marluther King, what about this holiday? What about this boulevard? Anyways, let me know how they're going to get trial cook a boulevard. They already did. They did in Israel. They gave him freaking bullet. Like, as soon as they give you a boulevard in a holiday, they definitely killed you. There's no question.
Starting point is 03:07:37 They killed you. There's no way. That's like their signature thing. It's like that's what they do. It's the Fed signature. It's finally sign off after they murder you. So like holiday in a boulevard. And it's never on a nice side of town either.
Starting point is 03:07:49 Like Charlie Kirk Boulevard is not going to be a nice side of town. Anyways, I will be back on the 27th, you guys. Thank you guys for all this support throughout these couple of weeks, these last really kind of six weeks since Charlie died. and we will see you guys then. So there it is. Four kids. She'd been married longer than two years, I presume.
Starting point is 03:08:10 Well, I guess maybe three. She just has been nonstop cranking out kids when she married that guy. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Now she needs to take a break. Yeah, why would she take? That makes no sense. Because she doesn't want to have a holiday or a boulevard named after her.
Starting point is 03:08:28 She feels she's. Oh, that's where she thinks she's going to get. She's a target. Yes, exactly. Because, you know, she's speaking truth. And by the way, was I right when you, you, you brought the Tucker Carlson clips, you brought the clips. I said, bad idea, supply. And lo and behold, the complaints rolled in.
Starting point is 03:08:50 You're just jealous of his success. I think we said the opposite. I said, I'm glad I don't have to do this. it's a it's baffling people do not like it when you when you deconstruct media in the podcast realm then you're shooting inside the tent you're no good is you're a problem you're jealous no i you know it doesn't make much sense because tugger carlson's always been a mainstream guy anyway now she's he's the headliner at the charlie kirk events out of the blue no they don't have events right now do they don't they just had a big giant event to the i think university of
Starting point is 03:09:26 Indiana. Huge. And then the headliner was Tucker. Is this the one? Doing the Charlie Kirk back and forth. And even though it's in his style, which is very not Charlie Kirk. Wait a minute. Is this the one where he moaned about Bitcoin again? I don't know if that was, if he did or not. This is just recent, like a couple days ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on a second. I have it here. So I thought this was old. Someone sent this to me. I thought this was a really old one. Hold on a second. No, he's just And he's booked for the next event, Charlie Kirk event. He's going to be the headliner.
Starting point is 03:09:59 I think this is co-option. I think he's... Where was it? Where was the... I think it was the University of Indiana. That's what I remember. Well, I thought this was old, but the expo says this just in. So that's why I'm thinking maybe you're right.
Starting point is 03:10:16 And here he is. And nobody can explain to me who Satoshi was, the creator of Bitcoin, this mysterious guy who apparently died, but nobody knows who. who he was. You know, I grew up in D.C. primarily in a government family, so CIA. That's my guess. Can't prove it. But like, you're telling me to invest in something whose founder is, like, mysterious and has billions of dollars of unused Bitcoin. Like, what is that? And no one can answer the question, including some of the biggest holders of Bitcoin in the world, do I know personally? They're like, oh, it doesn't matter. What matters to me? Right? And nobody...
Starting point is 03:10:51 Yeah. So he thinks Bitcoin was created by... I think this is co-option. I think he's co-opted the, this is what happened to the Tea Party, if you recall. Yep. The Tea Party was, which was really a Ron Paul thing. And then a true grassroots was taken over by some old Republicans, the old rhino type Republicans, kind of took it over and co-opted it and ruined it. Yep, it's true. And this is, I think, is what's happening here.
Starting point is 03:11:18 You thought it was going to be Kirk's wife, but I think she's not that bright. and she probably would give in to the father figure of Tucker, and I think Tucker's going to take the thing over and then drive it off a cliff. I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, oh, no agenda in the morning.
Starting point is 03:11:46 Well, you heard it here first. We'll keep our eye on it. That may not be a very bad theory at all. I can't disagree with it. And John C. Devorak, who can disagree with you helping us list off the rest of our supporters, $50 and above for episode 1810, just days before our 18th anniversary. Yeah, everybody should make note the 18th anniversary. We can use some support. Now, the first person here, $118 is someone from Amsterdam. And I would pronounce it Kiel. Let me take a look.
Starting point is 03:12:19 Kiel, Kiel. It's a CA, Kiel. feel, yes, yes, feel. Dame Reed in Sparks, Nevada, 110, 23. There she's back, good. Dame Early Turtle in Topeka, Kansas, 1033. Dame Early Turtle? That's what her name is, yes, the early turtle. Early Turtle, cool, man.
Starting point is 03:12:44 There's plenty of box turtles in Kansas. I like the early turtle. And they crossed the road and you get hit. Robert Petta in Sacramento, California 100. Al Gonsulin, Gonsulin, 8438. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is. He sent a note in saying you never got the newsletter. A lot of people didn't get the newsletter.
Starting point is 03:13:04 We had a very shortfall in the newsletter because there's something in the newsletter that got banned. Oh, no. I got to find a, I'm, Calicanus tells me to get to a different, any questions. Calacanus is talking to you? Yeah, he talks to me. No, he used to talk to me, but he doesn't talk to me anymore. Boy, he's just telling me what I'm doing wrong. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:13:22 Well, that's talking. That's Jason talking. Yeah, it's Jason. And the main thing he's telling me is to get off MailChimp. Yeah, a lot of people tell me, get off MailChimp. Yeah, well, 808 from Kevin McLaugh, and he's the Archduca Luna. He says, PSA, big and small, saved them all. Breast Cancer Awareness, Awareness, Moves.
Starting point is 03:13:44 Oh, I didn't know that. I don't know it either. John Tomzak in Royal Oak, Michigan, 7878, North Nexus. North Sea Nexus donation. 7878. Okay, we'll make it that. Dame Ellen in Montgomery, Alabama, 7777 is a happy birthday to his. My illustrious brother, Sir Duggett up at the Sharp Shovel, who turns 7 squared on Tuesday.
Starting point is 03:14:12 49, yes. She needs a deduishing. You've been deduced. Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, 7575. Nicholas Leary in Columbus, Ohio, 7272. Derek Johnson in Grandview Heights, I think, or Heights in Ohio, 67, 67, which is something. It's their donation, the new donation, 67. Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California, 6440, which is 66,000.
Starting point is 03:14:47 And 40, oh, 66 books, I'm sorry. Yes, 66 books, 40 authors. Yeah. I thought it said 66 boobs. Hardly. And 40 authors, which would be the same thing. No. Matthew Janick in Novi, Michigan, 6581.
Starting point is 03:15:06 You don't know enough authors. Matthew L.Wart. Matthew Janick needs a deduishing. You've been deduished. Matthew Elward. Wait, wait. This is an important donation amount, 6581. The amount is a petition to include 1981 in Generation X since we became adults in the 1900s.
Starting point is 03:15:28 Hmm. I'm not even officially anymore in Gen X, so I can't make a ruling on that. Sorry, Matthew. Another Matthew, coincidentally, Elwart in Weatherford, Texas, 60-06 small boobs. Matt B in, I guess is, I don't know what the, where is this? I would say Asley. Asley, Texas, 6-0-0-6. Another D-D-D-Shing.
Starting point is 03:15:56 You've been deduced. And curiously, Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 606. James Springer in Ann Arbor, Michigan, 60, or 55, has a very, as a very nasty note. problem is you two need an editor I have to sit through the seventh grade humor and Adam's mocking voices give us all a break and do what you do best
Starting point is 03:16:25 media analysis too much wasted time who's mocking voices now yeah but I don't have that one voice that you have which is a classic it's a good one Frank, we have to stop. You know what? I think this guy, James Springer and Ann Arbor, Michigan, or 55-55 donation is right. We're wasting time.
Starting point is 03:16:50 We're wasting a lot of time. And we spend way too much time mocking people. Yes. And we should probably cut it out and be much more mature. Okay, you go first. James Chippetta, Chippetta, I think, in Carpenter, Illinois, 5291. That's serious. It's Sean Murphy in South Lyon, Michigan, 5272.
Starting point is 03:17:17 Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 5250. Happy 18th anniversary. He's ahead of the group. And that came in as a check. Forest Martin, 50-05, Matthew Sychora in New Richmond, Wisconsin. 50, oh, these are all the $50 donors. There's not a lot of them, but we got a few. Name and location only, starting with. with Michael and then Alexa Delgado and Aptos, California, Lisa Rosa in Highland Park, Illinois.
Starting point is 03:17:45 Michael Myers in Mendeville, Louisiana. Ox otherics in Buffalo, New York. Not looking for any special treatment, he writes. Just ox otheris, otherics, that's all. Okay. He wants you to say, what a name. Wow, what a name. What a name.
Starting point is 03:18:07 great name that is. It's a great name. It should be a this jockey. Yes. Okay. Dame Knight, our last, our last supporter in Edmonds, Washington. I want to thank her and everybody else in the, she's actually a baroness, I think, at the moment. Everyone who's helped show 1810, and we're getting to 1811, which will be the 18th year of the No Agenda show, and then we get to the War of 1812. And we thank these producers, as as well as our executive and associate executive producers who we thanked earlier on. Appreciate that. We did get a note from a Knight, Knight Pierlemans.
Starting point is 03:18:50 And I'll just breathe. So his wife passed away from asbestos-related cancer, most likely caused by exposure at Shepard Air Force Base in Texas. And he's been trying to find a law firm to help him out. And so Fear Not, Knight. I have passed your details on to rob the constitutional lawyer. He's on the road right now, but he will be reaching out to you. We are a full-service podcast here. Please note that.
Starting point is 03:19:17 Thank you again, everybody who supports the best podcast in the universe. You can go to no agenda donations.com. It's real easy. All you have to do is just send back all the value you receive from the show. You can do it right now. Do it today. Do it for our 18th anniversary. Noagendatdonations.com.
Starting point is 03:19:36 I'm not surety today, we have the blonde girlfriend wishing Sir Scovey a very happy birthday. And Dame Allen, she wishes her illustrious brother, Sir Dugget Up, of the Sharp Shovel, a very happy one. He turned seven square, by my calculations, 49 on October 21st. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Fast up. Yes, we do have two title changes today. Sir Boiled Peanut becomes a Viscount. And another Viscount, Viscount status for Sir Ken of Penseltke, becomes the Viscount of South Felton.
Starting point is 03:20:23 Thanks to re-upping in another $1,000 in aggregate to the Noah Jenna Show. Thank you very much. We appreciate that so much. And then these will be the final, I believe, Secretary General's. Everyone came in right underneath the wire. and that means the last time you will hear this ear room of a jingle. And we'll hail to the Secretary's Generals, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary General's on the No Agenda Show.
Starting point is 03:20:54 And we congratulate the Secretary General of South Felton, Sir Boiled Peanuts, Secretary General of Ancapistan, Secretary General of the Republic of Alberta and Brandon Kiefer. Also a Secretary General. Go to No Agenda Rings.com. Fill out all the information so we can send those final Secretary General's certificates to you. All hail to the Secretary's Gendles, because they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary's Generals on the No Agenda Show. And remember, the International Peace Prize can be yours.
Starting point is 03:21:33 The No Agenda International Peace Prize. Go to Noagenda Donations.com for more information. And it's time now for the meetups. No agenda meetups. Yeah, baby. Connection is protection. You go to a no agenda meetup. You will make long-lasting relationships, people who will be your first responders in an emergency.
Starting point is 03:21:54 And Sir Scott, the Jew sent this North Idaho Sandy Brigade Meetup report in. I must have missed it somehow, so he rescinded it, and here we go. Hanging out here once again on the mezzanine at the Trails in Brewery in Cordillane. This is the North Idaho San Diego Brigade and Sir Scott the Jew, recording this meetup report on our brand new pod mobile that we got for our hyperlocal podcast, covering North Idaho, no ID show.com. Thanks, Adam, for the inspiration. This is Sir Donald Firebottle, Secretary General of Greater Idaho.
Starting point is 03:22:21 Certain counties would rather be in Idaho, and that's why I claimed the moniker. Fred the Golding Cowgirl here. Adam, keep shooting up that tent. Don't let them stop your free speech. Wait, I mean, freedom of speech. In the morning, this is Jack. I can weld, but I can't read clock. My father-in-law is here for his first meetup ever, but he won't say anything. Does that make him a douche-crash? This is Jason here in Cortland, Idaho. Enjoying some good brews and some good pizza with a bunch of good people. This is Rachel from Post Falls. I'm here with my smoking hot husband and my four-day-old human resource. In the morning, this is Brian from Post Falls, a spook with the federal government.
Starting point is 03:23:00 Please call your senator. I'm about to have to work for free starting on Monday. Good God. Lacey from Post Falls, Idaho, recently deduced and smelling flesh. Hey, my name is Megan McElmore. I was everyone's server tonight at Trailsend Brewery. It was really fun. Everyone was super nice and super great.
Starting point is 03:23:18 And also, I'm 20 years old. Everyone always asks me, hey, what does this beer taste like? And what does this cider taste like? Man, I have no clue. air. Why is Adam so mean to John? Who cares? There you go. Thank you very much, Sir Scott the Jew, for your report. We have the happy birthday no agenda meetup taking place almost as we speak in about an hour or so. 419 Arizona time. Canyons
Starting point is 03:23:43 Crown in Tucson, Arizona. Dame Beth getting the party started early. On Saturday, the Los Alos meetup kicks off at 4 o'clock at State Street Market in Los Altos, California. The TMI Evac Zone will have their meet-up on Sunday and they sent a promo. Hey, Dad, would you ever watch CNN or go to a no-agenda meetup? Well, the boys watch CNN so we don't have to. And a meet-up is like a party. So, meet-up. In fact, let's make it a no-agenda.
Starting point is 03:24:09 Would-you-rather-meet-up and ask each other questions? Join us this Sunday at 333 in Camp Hill. And on Monday, in Berlin, the ITM Slaves Berlin Meetup 733 Berlin-time folks bar at Rosa Luxembourg Plots. in Berlin, Germany. Tahl from Berlin, we'll be hosting that, and we hope that he sends us a meetup report with their server at the moment. Still coming up in October, Alfreda, Georgia on the 30th, and Lagin in the Netherlands on the 31st. Those are just a few of the many Noagenda meetups taking place around the world, Zurich, Switzerland on November the 15th, is everywhere
Starting point is 03:24:45 these things. Go to KnowagentamMeetups.com, where you can find all the meetups listed on a handy calendar. You know what it is? If you can't find one near you, if you're living somewhere, place where no one is scheduled to meet up, start one yourself guaranteed easy and always a party. of show mixes to come. And these will be published this time. We'll be putting them into the clips archive and, of course, crediting the end of show mixers as always. Before that, we have John's tip of the day. And ISO time now, which is the last clip we pay on the show at the very end. John, you have two I see. Would you like to go first? I want you to go first that way I can defer. That's showbiz, baby. I kind of like that one myself. And then always going
Starting point is 03:25:53 Back to the Classic Archive. Ooh, people really love that. He's the master. He's the master, I tell you. Maybe he just did one of him. He's the master. Okay, so I got Trump. Oh, that's music to my ears.
Starting point is 03:26:08 I love that sound. Sound of money. Yeah. What was the sound of the show? Yeah. And I have our buddy. This is Kennedy. Well, pickle my bunyan.
Starting point is 03:26:23 That's what I call a good show. Oh, man. Why did you cut it off? That was it. It doesn't end nicely. Well, pickle my bunions. That's what I call a good show. Show.
Starting point is 03:26:36 It's not a great edit. Who edited that? Did you edit that? It's the way he talks. No. I know you like the, You like the more religious style where you go show a. Yeah, showa, exactly.
Starting point is 03:26:57 Showah. That's okay. I'll accept it. Bunyan's it is. But first, before we do anything, it is time for John C. DeVorex's tip of the day. Greenby's for you and me. Just the tip with J.C.D.
Starting point is 03:27:13 And sometimes, Adam. All right, here's a drinking tip. We all need one of those. So there's a problem. The product out, Jim Beam has bought up most of the distilleries, a lot of these big brands, and they're putting them out again in new labels, and they're trying to beef up the line of what's called the Olds, the big trend, the old. The olds, like vintage, olds?
Starting point is 03:27:43 Well, old's like old granddad, old hole overhaul, old crow. And so I'm bringing in this one that just came out, called Crow 86, which is a bourbon, and it's $11.90. So it's a cheap bourbon, and it is excellent for a, and it's just one, and the label is dynamite because it just says crow, big in big letters, crow 86, and you can get it almost. I mean, this is one of their, that problem I have with what Beam is doing is that they brought out something called Old Crow Reserve about six months ago, and then they, which was a stunner.
Starting point is 03:28:28 And I was going to put on, you mentioned it, but then they took it off, they, it was just one month and they took it off the market. So if you see Old Crow Reserve, get it, get that. But Crow 86 is quite good for the 11 bucks. This is a cheap, uh, cheap, uh, another cheap, uh, another cheap, uh, alcohol. I'm, I'm trying to keep the price down for people so they can give us better donation. So it's just a practical thing. Now, I want to mention something.
Starting point is 03:28:54 So I'm watching some of these characters that are doing. This is for people you ever want to professionally or look like you maybe know how to taste professionally. Yeah. Because I got scolded for making the same mistake that I'm going to describe. When you're tasting in a competition with professionals. Now, is this for wine or anything? This is I'm going to make the, it's for. spirits spirits uh it's harder to do the spirits than it is the wine wine but with wine you'll
Starting point is 03:29:28 see when you're tasting professionally with wine tasers at all pros they're swirling and swirling the glass and you get you know you see it at the restaurants the guys swirl in the glass and a lot of them slurp make a slurping sound which is kind of goche but they do it goosh is go is go yeah slurp the wine so you get it aerated in your mouth uh so with speech I did this because I had, I was in one of the, yeah, you're a spirit swiller. I was, I swirled and I just got the glares from, these are professionals that are in the industry in the distilling business. A lot of people from Scotland and elsewhere. And you do not swirl when you're professionally tasting a spirit. You don't swirl spirits. If you do,
Starting point is 03:30:15 you're an idiot. And so when you swirl spirits, what happens is it just brings up straight alcohol hole, you don't really get to smell what's going on with the product. You get hammered. You don't get hammered. You spit the stuff out anyway. The point is, is that you don't, you can't evaluate properly if you're swirling and swirling spirits because that's what you do with wine. So I'm watching some of these videos of these guys tasting the Crow 86 and there's two guys
Starting point is 03:30:41 that seem very knowledgeable about all the details of the flavors, but they're both got the little glasses and they're swirling away like crazy. Stop it. So stop swirling your spirits. Yeah, there you go. Find them all at tip of the day.net. John's tip of the day. Create advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD.
Starting point is 03:31:05 And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnettie. I think that is a good tip. Stop swirling your spirits, people. You're making yourself look dumb. Is that basically the message? Yes. Yes, that's the message. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:31:20 So I have no idea what is next on the no agenda stream. It seems to be a mystery today, but something will pop up. Something always does. But end-of-show mixes from Bonnelled Crabtree, Scary Trout, and MVP. Remember, we are now accepting AI end-of-show mixes. We will be publishing them since there's no copyrights, no PROs, or Element OPs, or whatever. So you can download them to your heart's extent. play them wherever you want to play them on your podcast and make them no longer than a minute
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