No Agenda - 1820 - "Tokyo Rose"

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Eh, whatever. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, November 27, 2025. This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1820. This is no agenda. No B-Team here. We're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:23 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where our motto is, don't give up the ship. I'm John C. DeVorak. Black Bonn and Buzzkill in the morning. Don't give up the ship? You missed the point of that? I did. I did. What am I missing? That was what the seditious six said.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Oh. And that's what all these other guys said at the end of their little clips that were put together. I'm totally convinced by Schumer. First of all. Yeah. Besides. Happy, happy Thanksgiving. I want everybody to know, we're working for.
Starting point is 00:01:00 you. Everybody's taking the day off. Oh, it's unbelievable how many people, they all worked on Monday. Yeah. Like the entire, everybody except for the B team at Fox, for example. All bailed. All of them. Dude, even Candice Owens is taking the week off and she's about to be killed by an Israeli agent.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I mean, come on. Nobody's working but us. She's just stay on the mic if that's going to happen. You know, if I was, that's what I would do. Talk about going down with the. ship. But like, come on. Kill me on the air, man. Let's go. Let's do it. Mr. Mossad. I want to get these clips out of the way. This is going down with the ship thing. But you're so out of format. This is not what we do every year.
Starting point is 00:01:48 What do we do? Every single Thanksgiving. And this is almost like the night before Christmas book. You're talking about the long story about what Thanksgiving really is? you need to tell us the the actual story of Thanksgiving because I do this every year I used to put it in the news that I gave up why it's so beautiful I actually went and looked up your previous um your previous thank because you have done this since 2005 and in print yeah I know it's getting yeah and I and I loved because I did a search and like oh let me go let me this is the format format man thanksgiving format you're like oh oh I'm getting oh yeah and I and I love it's getting a search and like oh let me let me let me go let me this is the format man thanksgiving format you're like oh oh oh Let's go down with the ship. No, hold on a second. No. By the way, I want to mention that the idea that we do work on this Thanksgiving, we did miss one.
Starting point is 00:02:40 But generally speak, but we're not like these people are all bailed out. It's unbelievable. Yeah, like they don't care about their audience, man. Well, it's not even that is there is stuff happening. Yeah, well, there's a lot happening. But wait, before you go into different directions. I'm trying to get off this track, obviously. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:02:58 So I went, I found, I did a search. The first hit was devorek.org slash blog. This is great. And the first hit was a repost of your 2005 post. Yeah. All these are reposts. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And, and I love how it starts off. I'm always amused by the cock and bull story about Thanksgiving, being about pilgrims, maize, turkeys, and Indians. when the holiday stems from an Abe Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a magazine editor. And then you go into this. But what I didn't realize, the comments are great. Have you ever looked at these comments from... Not for years. Like, shut up, you old crank.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Eat your turkey. You ingrate. It's great. Oh, that's a good one. I like that one. What? Thanksgiving didn't start with the Pilgrims. Next, you'll be telling us George Washington didn't chop down.
Starting point is 00:03:58 a cherry tree and Betsy Ross did not sew the first American flag. There's a lot of hate here. And I realize that somehow you say these horrible things and you're able to deflect it to me. It's like I've become your lightning rod. You haven't been catching the flack for the things. For the truth. The truth about Thanksgiving. The truth.
Starting point is 00:04:23 The truth. The cock and bull story. Who needs it? I noticed it's been, they've been downplaying it, and I've heard on a couple of shows over the last couple of days where people do refer to the Lincoln Proclamation. They don't mention that it was not the behest of a magazine editor, but they do mention it, which they've never done before.
Starting point is 00:04:45 What's interesting is I looked up Lincoln's Proclamation. I'm not going to read it. It's very long. But what I found interesting this year is that he basically copied large swathes. of the Bible, Deuteronomy, Psalms. I mean, it's, and he did this, what, like, in the middle of the Civil War, I think? No, he's right after the Civil War. This was a Thanksgiving for the, this was immediately after the Civil War.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Oh, so it was, isn't that one right around the Gettysburg address then? No, no, no. No, I think he did this one week after the Gettysburg address. Well, I don't, well, we'd have to do. Oh, oh, hold on. Hold on. let me talk to the robot. Uh, let's see, error.
Starting point is 00:05:32 When did President Lincoln give the Thanksgiving proclamation? President Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving proclamation on October 3rd, 1863. Would you like to know more about it? Yeah, was the Civil War over? No, the Civil War was still raging when Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving population. Oh, okay. 163. It actually lasted another two years. Is there anything specific about the proclamation? No, shut up. Okay, well then it would be closer to the Gettysburg Address.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. So, and he was telling us to thank God. That's what he was telling us. And it wasn't for the dead soldiers like you keep writing and saying, because I looked it all up. It was to thank God that he has mercy on us even though we don't deserve it. There you go. There's your 300 words. abbreviated. And that's somehow that turned into this crazy turkey pardoning stuff, which I also had to look up.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Kennedy doesn't want to start that one. I do know that. Ah, no, I don't think so. Well, let's ask the robot. We don't know. Let's listen to a report. I just want to tell you this very important. You are hereby, unconditionally partner. With an audience looking
Starting point is 00:06:57 on, President Trump granted a full and complete pardon to a 52-pound turkey named gobble, part of an annual White House holiday tradition. On behalf of the First Lady and the entire Trump family, I want to wish all Americans a very, very happy Thanksgiving. It's a great time of the year. His friend Waddle was also spared. He stopped by the White House briefing room earlier in the day. Want to give us a gobble? President Harry Truman was the first to be presented with a
Starting point is 00:07:27 with a turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead of Thanksgiving. But the more modern presidential pardon dates back to George H.W. Bush. This will be our 78th presentation here, and it's just a true honor for the U.S. Turkey industry. Anyway, blah, blah, blah. So I looked it up. So Truman started this, but it wasn't, you know, I'm like, why do we pardon the Turkey? I mean, I really would this. It is dumb, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 It is. So Truman was trying to conserve grain for foreign aid to Europe after the second world. This is just what I found. So I believe this to be true. So you parted the turkey so they could eat the grain? No. No. His administration promoted meatless Tuesdays and poultryless Thursdays.
Starting point is 00:08:10 This enraged the poultry. People were eating that much poultry? What? I'm just reading it. This enraged the poultry industry. And you'll notice that it's always the poultry union or whatever who select the turkey. So before you continue, you had a, You have, you've got Truman documented.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I've heard about Kennedy. And then they, in the report you played, it was George H.W. Bush. Said Truman first. She said Truman first. Did she say Truman? Yeah. I thought she said it, George H.W. Bush. President Harry Truman was the first to be presented with it.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Okay. Wait. Let it play. It's boring after that. Turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead of Thanksgiving. The National Turkey Federation. presidential pardon dates back to George H.W. Bush. Yeah. So there you go. But there's a reason. Actually, it was Reagan before that.
Starting point is 00:09:04 This was always used for political reasons. So what happened with Truman is the National Turkey Federation. We're mad that he had said, hey, we don't eat any poultry on Thursday. And so in order to make it up to them, they sent crates of, well, they sent crates of, first they sent crates of live chicken to the White House in protest. And that's how this presentation started. Then it was Reagan, but it was, it was just looking at the turkey. There was no pardoning of the turkey. I'd just be out there and on the, out front of the White House going,
Starting point is 00:09:41 oh, yeah, how about that turkey? Yeah, happy Thanksgiving, everybody. And I tried to get the audio, but it was really too, and that wasn't good enough. A reporter yelled a question, Mr. President, are you going to pardon Oliver North and John Poindexer? And he says, no, I'd probably pardon this turkey before I did that for sure or something to that effect. You can't really hear it. And that's kind of where the pardon came from.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And now it's just become this Turkey Federation fest. Basically, it's a lobbying exercise for the Turkey Federation. Why else would we do it? It makes no sense. It's fun to look at the turkeys, I guess. Well, when you have a 50-pounder. Well, those, that's beautiful turkeys. So I'm going to read from the GROC.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Or no, this is from Open AI. President John F. Kennedy was the first U.S. President on record to informally spare a Thanksgiving turkey in 1963. Through a formal tradition of a presidential pardon was not established until 1989. That would be the George H.W. Bush. During a Rose Garden ceremony on November 19, 1983, just three days before his assassination, this is why they killed him. The Turkey Federation killed him. Now we know the turkey people killed him.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And by the way, this is interesting because Trump went on and on about this 50-pound turkey. Yeah. Gobble. Kennedy was presented with a 55-pound turkey. Oh, no. From the National Turkey Federation. So. And the turkey had a sign on his neck that said,
Starting point is 00:11:24 Good eating, Mr. This is, it's just, it's just the best lobbying organization in the business. They, every single year, they get to present their beautiful birds. Everyone's all hungry. Oh, yeah, I need a turkey. Because it makes no sense. Well, the whole thing is stupid. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yes. But I think it was great that they brought this one bird into the press room. Yeah, next to the next to the, next to, The other turkeys, yeah. Next to her kid. What's her name? That was, what's his name? That's the kid of the press secretary.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. So, yes, the whole thing is ludicrous. All right. So now before you jump into the going down with the ship, I learned something important that you actually called me out on. I want to make sure that we just are aware of this before we get underway. Oh, that's interesting to say that because I have a, I put aside a call out for you for something you did or said that was so on the money.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's ridiculous. And I've already forgotten what it is. I'll have to think it'll come up, but you watch. This will come up during the three hours. So this is from the anonymous TSA agent. And he says on episode 18, 19, he made an offhanded comment about Marjorie Taylor Green and something the tune of, well, we all know the news of a resignation. And he says, I want you know that I am one of, in my opinion, a not insignificant portion of the producer base who looked at no agenda as our primary
Starting point is 00:12:55 and near sole source of national and international news and analysis. And that isn't because we're too lazy to watch the news. It's because your show over the course of the last 18 years has infected my mind. Good. And show me that the M5. What? It inspected it? Infected my mind. Infected.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And show me that the. the M5M is full of nothing but lying two-faced terrible people who will make you believe the sky is red if it gave them an extra penny on their paycheck that week. So, and I was thinking about it. Yeah, that's probably true.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And I personally need to be more aware of that because we're, you know, we're wrapped up in it. This is what we do. We're watching everything. It's too much. We're watching the podcast circularity. Everybody going on each other's podcast talking about their podcasts and how that podcast work when I interviewed that podcaster on this podcast over there
Starting point is 00:13:51 and debated that podcaster. And how many people are really on X? 60 million? How many in America? You know, there's a good chance that 90% of America just wants to have a nice job. Just wants to come home, have a beer, watch some Netflix, and maybe catch the no agenda a show to hear what's going on. Maybe, maybe not. I think the 90% don't even care that much. The people that listen to No Agenda tend to at least have some desire to be up on current events.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yes. Well, and yes. Not everybody is. All you have to do is watch a Jesse Waters show when Johnny goes out and talks to the public at large. Exactly. You can see there's the real public. Yeah, exactly. So it kind of made me. chuckle that all these people are so up in arms about to America first, GOP, where you, blah, blah, like, that really doesn't matter at all to most people, to most people. So, yeah, use us as your primary source for news and deconstruction. News and blues. News and blues, everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So I think you were correct before you get into your clips here. um this uh the sedition the seditious six which i think is a good good label for them uh this is the uh the setup this is the um impeachment team at work because this was all about the drugboats as far as i could tell i'm not so sure it was uh it i think it was a publicity and i by the way and nobody has said this, I'm going to be the only one that says this because I believe that Schumer is more powerful than people think. He's not a dumb crap, dumb, a hole the way everyone sees him. And he's behind this. And one of the reasons I think he's behind is the people that are in this, which includes senators and congressmen, usually they don't mix, but luckily Jeffries is a Schumer
Starting point is 00:16:08 acolyte. And he's like, let, let them go ahead and put the congressman in there. with him. The phrase, don't give up the ship is a schumerism. It's the kind of stupid thing he'd say. It makes no sense. It's like a super boomer term. It's totally. And you can just, and he's been doing this publicity sense for the last number of years. And they all, you know, they're dancing Congress people, the people, you know, all this crazy stuff that he dreams up is dumb. And he came up with this scheme, and he also brought some other people on to back him up. There's another clip floating around of a bunch of servicemen saying, yeah, they're right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And Trump's a bad guy for saying he wants to kill him when Trump never said that. But okay. But that's, I mean, even Trump knew that that's what they would take away from it. No, they're both playing the game. Yeah, obviously. But it's Schumer. And I have a three by three, which is the clips of what's going on, because what's happened was the Trump trying to, the three by three. Well, let's play the jingle first.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Come on my head on the button the whole time. Experiment by Jake Deney. I'm ready to go. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC, the never-rending three-by-three. All right, this is. Okay, I'm going to throw a curveball and start with not. ABC, NBC, CBS, but play the NPR summary, which is a little more or a little less slanted. It's still slanted in their way.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Again, breaking formats. The three by three, we're going to start with number four? Yeah. You're killing me, Smalls. Six Democrats in Congress say they're being investigated by the FBI after they made a video telling members of the military that they can refuse illegal orders. President Trump called the message, seditious behavior punishable by death. The White House later said the president was not suggesting the six Democrats be killed,
Starting point is 00:18:22 but the Trump administration has taken steps to potentially punish the group. The Pentagon launched an investigation into Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, and now all six say the FBI has requested interviews. Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan told reporters on Tuesday that Trump is attempting to stifle criticism, including over the president's moves to strike alleged drugboats and dispatch troops in U.S. cities. This is a scare tactic by him. He is attempting to use the FBI to scare us out of continuing to talk. The FBI and the Justice Department declined to comment.
Starting point is 00:18:58 My free speech. My free speech. I should be able to talk. So that was a fairly, you know, innocuous report. Yeah. had them quoted. There was no other side of it. But Slotkin and Kelly in particular is a strong Schumer supporter.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Oh, is that so? I did not know that. Yeah, he voted against. This is a military guy voted against during the shutdown at the behest of Schumer, voted against funding the military during the shutdown. This is how pro-military this guy is. Well, I mean, he's an astronaut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So we know he's a liar. You know, he's up there in the lab, you know. They got the belts on with the wires floating around. So we have the, now the three by three, they're all bad. And I want to, because I have a follow-up clip to the whole thing, which is the bonus clip, which I had to, I was thinking about the three-by-three. Oh, God, I got to play this at least have some balance here because they wouldn't balance. They wouldn't balance these reports, so let's just start from do it alphabetically and go with ABC.
Starting point is 00:20:12 ABC is up first. This evening, the FBI is now requesting interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who told military members in those videos that they do not have to. Is this like a podcast interview? The FBI wants you to come on their podcast. This evening, the FBI is now requesting interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who told military members in those videos that they do not have to follow illegal orders. President Trump accusing the lawmakers of seditious behavior punishable by death. Well, now the FBI is moving in on this, and the Pentagon is threatening to court-martial senator and retired astronaut Mark Kelly. Here's Rachel Scott tonight.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Tonight, the FBI wants to talk to the six Democratic lawmakers who President Trump accused of seditious behavior punishable by death for recording this message to the military. I was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer. Former Navy. Telling service members they should not follow illegal orders. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. Tonight, the FBI has requested interviews with all six lawmakers, including New Hampshire Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander,
Starting point is 00:21:14 who served as an intelligence officer in the Navy Reserve. I will not be intimidated. I will not be harassed. I will continue to do my job and uphold my oath. It comes as the Pentagon threatens to court-martial Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy captain who flew 39 combat missions in Iraq before going on to become an astronaut. Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegsef called the video a, quote, politically motivated influence operation. Senator Kelly explaining why the lawmakers used the words they did.
Starting point is 00:21:44 We basically repeated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and they're saying that's in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It's absurd. The Defense Secretary continues to attack Senator Mark Kelly, now sending a letter to the Secretary of the Navy asking for a review of his comments for potentially unlawful conduct, saying he wants. to be briefed on the matter, no later than December 10th, David. No, after the Thanksgiving Day holiday and a couple of... Hey, by the, are you guys celebrating Thanksgiving today or in December? Come on. Well, it's not to... We have a dinner today, but we're Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It would either be tomorrow or Saturday. Okay. Why do it on the day? Why? It doesn't make sense. No, it makes no sense. So, okay, let's just say... Alphabetical order, CBS. This 90-second long video, threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from a broad, has ignited a week of controversy and now an inquiry by the FBI into the six Democratic members of Congress who recorded it and who urged service members not to follow unlawful orders.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Who must refuse illegal orders. All six are veterans of the military or the intelligence community. CBS News has learned the FBI told congressional leaders Monday that the Bureau wants to speak with each of them. Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin is one. The president's reaction and the use of the FBI against us is exactly why we made the video. He believes in using the federal government against his perceived adversaries, and he's not afraid to use the arms of the government against people he disagrees with. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth launched a separate probe of Senator Mark Kelly,
Starting point is 00:23:27 a retired Navy captain, accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with a court marshal. I'm not going to be silence. I'm not going to be intimidated. Last week, President Trump accused the Democrats of seditious behavior, punishable by death. Each of the six say they've since been menaced by death threats. That's not true. He didn't accuse anybody. Who, Trump? No, he just said seditionist, you know, whatever, punishable by death. He didn't say this guy did it. Accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with a court. You're right. I'm not going to be silenced. I'm not going to be intimidated. Last week, President Trump accused the Democrat. of seditious behavior, punishable by death.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Each of the six say they've since been menaced by death threats. Colorado Democrat Jason Crow released some audio of the cause. You deserve to die. I hope you all get murdered. White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt, said the Democrats who recorded the video need to be held accountable. You can't have a functioning military if there is disorder in chaos within the ranks. Just because there's an inquiry doesn't mean somebody's the target of a criminal investigation.
Starting point is 00:24:32 and these members of Congress have a number of defenses. And the literal truth, military service members, are to disregard on lawful orders. And they have First Amendment rights on steroids. They have a speech and debate clause protecting their speech uniquely. But John and Maurice, just the inquiry itself has a cost, financial time, and energy for these six Democrats. So there was a lie in there about Trump. And there was also a lie at the end because they do have the special speech. exemption on the floor of the Congress.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yep, they do. Not while you're floating around. Not on a video that you did in your office. Yeah, that's true. So that was really poor, CBS. This is a, where's Barry Weiss? By the way, we're never going to let this up. Where's Barry?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Barry, what you're doing? Barry Weiss. Get on the, get on the ball, girl. Big shot, Barry Weiss, why isn't she putting her, you know, impromature on this thing? Okay, let's go to NBC. Tonight, an escalating clash between the President and Democrats over rules governing military orders. The FBI is seeking interviews with these six lawmakers, according to a person familiar with plans. And those Democrats pushed back.
Starting point is 00:25:49 President Trump is using the FBI as a tool to intimidate and harass members of Congress. You can refuse illegal orders. The video to troops by Democrats with military and intelligence. experience did not identify any specific orders. The White House says it undercuts the commander-in-chief. They can't identify illegal orders because there are no illegal orders. Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy combat pilot, responding. Rachel, I'm not going to be silence.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I'm not going to be intimidating. Separately, partisanship made its way into a typically politics-free tradition. Gobble and waddle. The turkey pardon. The president again pressuring Democratic leadership. over crime in Illinois. We've been moving toward Chicago. Oh, I love the Nat Pop.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Gobble and Waddle. That's perfect. So these reports were slanted very slightly without just even disregarding the lies that are in the CBS report. But there was no balance at all whatsoever. It was all these, you know, this using the FBI as a bludgeon. Uh, so, so to, to balance it, I found a guy that's, and I did some research on him, this Buzz Patterson character who was in the Clinton administration and he was, uh, a military guy with high, he's very highly regarded. He did a couple of books. Uh, he's, he was in the Clinton administration, even though he turned into a Republican afterwards. and he may have been all the time
Starting point is 00:27:32 and so I just checked him out so he's legit so this would have been a nice guy to put in there as a balancing point so you're a little something excuse me can I get Barry Weiss on the line John C. DeVorek wants to head up
Starting point is 00:27:45 the news desk so anybody could figure this out you could get somebody to say they won't do it they would never put something like this on this is no Fox does they bring all these military guys on and say yeah they good those guys are doofus is dumb they were stupid that
Starting point is 00:28:03 was and they go on and on but this guy this was posted on his twitter account by him uh and i thought it would have been a good to balance your coverage a little bit you'd have something like this everybody this is buzz patterson i'm retired air force lieutenant colonel retired air force pilot combat veteran and uh at one time i was the military aid to president bill and then carried the nuclear football and actually lived in the White House. So I've been around. I was actually during my military service deployed to 70 countries and fought in three wars. These are her, his bona fides, bona fides.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So I feel like I've got a dog in this hunt. I am very appalled at what the Sedition 6 is done with their video. I think it's a violation of their oaths of office, especially in the case of Senator Mark Kelly. I believe it's a violation of the UCMJ, and I hope that President Trump and Secretary of War, Pete Higsef, hold them accountable. They are violating and they're politically using their positions to undercut the command of President Donald J. Trump and they're circumventing the chain of command. Congress and members of Senate are not in the chain of command.
Starting point is 00:29:21 President Trump is, however, is our commander-in-chief. So I fully support going forward with whatever, prosecutions are warranted and legitimate, and I think they are on these individuals. They use their positions, military, and in the intelligence community to expose, I think, and put at risk those of us who serve in uniform. I think that what's going to happen is because they violated the military chain of command. People are going to die. They undercut the underpinnings of the military, which is good order and faith and trust in their leadership.
Starting point is 00:29:58 In my estimation, what they did was treasonous and seditionists, and I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent. Okay. So before I give you some analysis that I have, I really thought this was mainly about the ships, the drugboats that they're blowing out of the water. What did you think it was about? I don't think it was.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I can't say that I know what it was about or why it was done. I mean, it was one of the good, because Schumer does these. things out of the blue. But if you wanted to take the position that it was about the drug boats because it's sketchy, I don't think there's any doubt about that. Well, in my mind, I mean, it's no different than what Obama did. We've been through that. But you are the one. I'm not going to stop talking about it. But you were the one that put me on the track of they're making such a big deal about, no, I'm sorry. You said, if there's going to be impeached over it. If the Democrats win in the midterms, they will impeach Trump over the drugboats.
Starting point is 00:31:04 That was what you said. Yes. And I still believe that to be true. So wouldn't it be a total Schumer move to do this? Softening body punches. Yeah, whatever. So soften up the published mentality for this sort of thing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Okay. So, and to me, it's like, that's it. That's what it was about. And that made a lot of sense. Yeah, I'm not going to argue against you on this. I don't have any counter argument against that thinking. You don't have to say that every single. You can just say, yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:33 That's fine. You don't have to go like. No, I try to vary it. No, you never agree. I say, yeah, you're great. You're right. You're terrific. I can't imagine a better analysis.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You've never. I could say that. You could just say, I agree. You're good to go. I can say that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you can't get it out of your mouth. I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's okay. I agree. I agree. I agree. What you just said, I agree. I can't get it out of my mouth. I agree. I can't get it out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:02 They can't do it. So we have a producer who was uniquely qualified to analyze this case, and that is Robb the constitutional lawyer. Before private practice, he was a JAG, a military lawyer. So he knows this stuff. And he gave me, of course, a very detailed analysis, which I will not go through all the way. But he did say that there's some interesting,
Starting point is 00:32:27 sides to this depending on how what they said is interpreted besides the UCMJ the military code there are provisions in the US code that apply to civilians as well most notably the anti-Tokio Rose statute
Starting point is 00:32:42 did you even know this existed I didn't even know this existed the anti so you give a little background hold on a second let's ask the bot who was Tokyo Rose tell me about her Tokyo Rose was a name given to English-speaking women who worked for Japanese propaganda stations during World War II, broadcasting to Allied troops. The most well-known of these women was Iva Ategori-Dequino.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Is there anything specific you'd like to learn about her? No, that's fine. I thought it was only one. I didn't know there was more than one Tokyo Rose. So anyway, Tokyo Rose. That one she mentioned is the famous one. Yeah, and so she was demoralizing the troops, let's put it that way. Yeah, well, she, they would, the Germans had a guy, a bunch of guys doing this, too.
Starting point is 00:33:33 They had it over a certain, they were actually, they have some recordings. Interestingly, those were British agents, I just learned. Those German broadcasters who were broadcasting into Germany around 43, British agents. Different story for a different time. No, what I'm talking about Germans broadcasting to England. Oh, okay. So the anti-Tokio-Ros statute makes it unlawful to foment insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any military member.
Starting point is 00:34:09 He says this is pretty broad. Okay, well, now you have to stop you. I have to pull a Kara. Why hasn't, this is the first I've heard of this. why hasn't any of these commentators or why haven't any of the commentators on all the networks of all the very wise run operation at CBS and everybody else in between how come not one person that said our guy can come up with this check your bank account do you have 150 million for your podcast no that's why we have one thing we've got producers
Starting point is 00:34:49 We've got the best producers in the universe. I'm with you on that. I agree. I agree. I agree with your annoyance. He says, although 2387 is a civilian statute, it can still be used in a court marshal by charging it under UCMJ, Articles 133, 134. These are conducts unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Wow, that's a great title for a movie. Which makes it an offense. for an officer to engage in basically any conduct that a court-martial may find unbecoming. Yes, says Rob, that's pretty dang, he's texting, pretty dang broad. It would make a violation of 2387, which is, makes it an offense for any troop officer or enlisted to engage in any conduct that discredits the armed forces or is in prejudicial or is prejudicial to good order and discipline, again, broad enough to encompass a violation of... A prejudicial.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Prejudicial, yes. Now, could Kelly be convicted? Rob doubts it. He says, the six Democrats are suggesting that lawful orders are in fact unlawful. And if they are suggesting that, which is really an interpretation of the language, because they didn't really, they said unlawful laws. They didn't say lawful orders. that are unlawful.
Starting point is 00:36:20 They said unlawful orders. Kelly's situation could become interesting in that case. If he was, he could be recalled to active duty and then they could prosecute him. But his conclusion really is, unless we're going for the Tokyo Rose option, he doesn't think that anything that was said would support a conviction. Okay, that brings me to a meta point. We're not going with the Tokyo Rose thing. It's not mentioned by anybody, even the administration hexats out there or anybody else
Starting point is 00:36:59 because they know they could use that and it would work. They don't want it to work. Ah, meta. Very meta. Yeah. That's why we were stunned by, or I'm stunned. I know you're maybe we're stunned when you got to note. You're not stunned now.
Starting point is 00:37:14 When it comes in with the Tokyo Rose analysis, they're not going to bring. no one's going to bring it up because they don't want to actually pursue it to an extreme where Mark Kelly would get thrown in the slammer because it would be a great publicity stunt the same way it worked against Democrats when they tried to put Trump in jail. His popularity zoomed and he got to be president. Again, you can't take a chance. Good point. There's no way I can argue that with you.
Starting point is 00:37:46 That's one of my phrases. Yes. No kidding. No kidding. So that would explain the non-appearance of the Tokyo Rose commentary on the networks. Yeah. And within the administration, you know, some smarty pants that was in the press room could throw it at Carolyn Levitt. But that exact same thing, it would stir up a problem. So we're the only ones mentioning it.
Starting point is 00:38:14 It'll never get brought up by anybody. Although, if I don't know if Trump even. knows about it because he could put all kinds of fun labels, you know, Tokyo, Kelly Rose, you know, he could do all kinds of stuff like that. And he would have a field, he could have a field day with it. So I, yeah, I think we're in agreement that it's, it's going nowhere. It's fun for the Thanksgiving holiday. No, it's more Republican, you know, this is like Comer, James Comers. Oh, we got, we got, we connected the dots. We got 100 Bidens, all the bank accounts. We're going to get them. We're going to get them. Nothing never comes.
Starting point is 00:38:47 of it. This is all theater of dimensional theater. It's ridiculous. Well, then there's another legal battle that took place, which I got, I finally found a report that mentioned the two important words. I had to get it from Canada. This is about Comey and Letitia James. For the White House, it's an embarrassing double defeat that tosses out the rushed and politically directed prosecutions of New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI director James Comey. I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence. The cases fell apart after a federal judge ruled prosecutor Lindsay Halligan was illegally appointed, nullifying her work. The Department of Justice will be appealing very soon, and it is our position that Lindsay Halligan is extremely qualified for this position, but more importantly, was legally appointed.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Halligan had never prosecuted a case before, but was handpicked by President Donald Trump to go after his perceived enemies, after career prosecutors warned there wasn't enough evidence to move ahead. No evidence. We have to act fast. One way of the other. One way of the other. They're guilty. They're not guilty.
Starting point is 00:39:57 We have to act fast. The case is a mess. And it's really amateur hour there at the DOJ. And it's really their own doing because of the timing and the experience of the prosecutor they put on this case. While grand juries later indicted both Comey and James, the cases were always considered legally shaky and open to claims of vindict. prosecution. This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. The failure is a major blow to Trump's efforts to bend the justice system to his will. There's little reason to think it will end the president's demands for
Starting point is 00:40:32 specific prosecution. The cases against both Comey and James were dismissed without prejudice, meaning they can be brought again. But that's assuming the administration can actually find another prosecutor who's willing to take them on. Without president? Where did this report from Canada. That's the most slanted report I've heard for a long time. Well, except for the end. Trying to bend him to his will. Yeah, but my point, all reports were like that,
Starting point is 00:40:57 but they at least mentioned without prejudice. Because this wasn't about them not being guilty, but if you believe the headlines and the lower thirds and the breaking newsflash, you'd think oh, well, the double defeat, they're out. I agree with you. It was a, what?
Starting point is 00:41:14 He? Stop the presses. So without prejudice means, okay, so you can just bring it again. Now, there's some statute of limitations. Right, they also have with prejudice, which means you can't. Can't, yes. But there's some statute of limitations which expired or expired. So hopefully they'll still be able to get them because of all the people,
Starting point is 00:41:36 Comey is definitely a rat. Definitely no good, that guy. No good. And then he did that comment that was in that clip where he, where he never lets up. He's just asking for trouble. He says, and there are always a bunch of millennia bastard. I don't know what he said, but it was negative.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I think I have this from PBS. I have the report about this. Or actually, it's not about this specifically. It's about the other stuff. Whereas, where Trump's indictments have been kicked. End of a chapter in American history. The final criminal charges against President Donald
Starting point is 00:42:15 Trump have been dropped after a prosecutor in Georgia moved to dismiss the case, focus on a push to overturn the 2020 election results in the state. The president, as we remember, was one of 19 suspects. That's his mugshot back then, including his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, as well as former attorney Rudy Giuliani. What happened today? I want to remind our viewers that this was all precipitated by a phone call, an infamous phone call now, between President Trump and Georgia's Secretary of State.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Brad Raffensberger. So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Tell us, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a great. You know, we have that in spades already. Nick, that phone call happened at the beginning of January in 2021. By February, just a month later, the district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia, Fannie Willis had opened a criminal investigation into that phone call and whether the president was pressuring the Secretary of State to overturn the election results in Georgia. This result. in a long legal battle. And there were criminal charges that were brought against the president and these 18 other co-defendants in August of 2023. Now, this was considered a RICO or a racketeering
Starting point is 00:43:29 case. It was sweeping. There were different charges against different defendants here. But this was all a number of people that are high profile and that I think our viewers would remember, Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff, Rudy Giuliani. The president's personal attorney were caught up in this. As well, these charges were all dismissed today by the special prosecutor down there who has just recently been appointed to oversee this. He asked for these charges to be formally dismissed by the judge, basically saying that he does not think that there is enough information to bring this. You know, before you continue, there's an interesting timing on this. there's a couple of guys
Starting point is 00:44:13 doing the rounds of the podcasts notably Gary Bernson and he showed up on going rogue with Laura Logan so you know that there's more behind it and he wrote he wrote a book and it's nothing that we haven't heard before but he lays it out and I don't have any clips of it
Starting point is 00:44:32 you can go listen to the podcast he lays out pretty well how the Dominion voting machines were rigged with soft from, I want to say, it's Seamantic, semantic or something. And that that software, and this is why the timing is so interesting. And this was all funded by Patrick Byrne, the former Overstock CEO. You recall he was in and out of the White House at the time with everybody else.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It completely vindicates. And he's the guy who Patrick Burns also the guy we played the clip of. Clinton, with Hillary Clinton, FBI dropped. The Hillary Clinton set up for the bribe, right. So it completely believable. and this book retraces the history of the vote-changing software, which is just as a vibe coder, completely believable. We've heard this so many times.
Starting point is 00:45:22 There's been some forensic evidence that we've seen. There's been so much throughout the years since the 2020 election. But it is all completely traced back to... Well, but stop. Before the 2020 election, we have to go back. be way before that when the George W. Bush election, when they had
Starting point is 00:45:44 the D-Bold machines. Yes. Or Die-Bold. A completely different company, making these same election machines. And they were supposedly rigged. That's the only way Bush could win. It was the Republicans rigging the machines,
Starting point is 00:46:01 supposedly, again. And everyone bitched and moaned about it. And then the Democrats turned the tables. And now they have the machines, and it's a different company. DiBold had stopped making the machines because it was, I don't know, I'd like to look into how that happened. Well, when you just gave up. When you follow the history of these electronic voting machines,
Starting point is 00:46:22 it's all based on the same software. The software kept getting sold to different companies. So it was the software that just got put into new hardware. But going all the way back, and here's where it gets interesting, this software was first used to steal, election in Venezuela. So you see how things, there's all these things happening kind of at the same minute. We've got a whole fleet offshore there.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Right, we're bombing. Right. A lot of stuff going on. So, you know, too many coincidences. Exactly. Exactly. Coincidence? Coincidence?
Starting point is 00:46:59 I think not. No coincidences. All right. Let's continue. This is part two of your PBS. It is two sweeping of an indictment and it would take too long because the president is a sitting president right now. He does not believe he can charge a sitting president. So tell us more about this prosecutor. And as you were saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:17 why does he feel like this case needed to be dropped? Peter Scandalakis is the prosecutor that took over for Fani Willis there when she was taken off of this case. There was some legal drama around that. He took over this case just recently. And he released this 23-page filing today. And I spoke earlier today with Gene Rossi, who's a former federal prosecutor. And he offered his interpretation. of why this was dismissed. And the word T-O-O comes to mind here. This indictment had too many defendants, including President Trump.
Starting point is 00:47:49 It had too many counts, and it was going to take too long to try this case if they did it in one trial. And when I'm reading this decision by this special prosecutor, I get the impression he looked at this indictment, and he said, what a hot mess. It's just a lot of things put together, a hodgepodge of charges allegations. And frankly, he didn't like it and he didn't like it that it was against the sitting president. And Nick, Peter Scandalakis also wrote today in this decision, this legal filing. He said that given the complexity of the legal issues at hand, bringing this case before a jury in 2029, 2030, or even 2031 would be nothing short of remarkable feat.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Is this the end? It sounds like it is. According to Scandalakis, I mean, he has asked the judge in this case to fully dismiss all of the charges against the president and these other 18 co-defendants here. Yeah, that had to be cleaned up. Probably right. Yeah, but the joke's on the poor guys who did the plea deal. And his last clip kind of brings that out. Yeah, they're sorry. They're screwed. Rossi also sort of summed this up, I think, nicely too.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I think a snowball in a certain part of the world has a better chance to survive. than this case. This case is dead. And I can't see how it could possibly be resurrected in Georgia or in any other state. And this is overall a win for the president and for his allies here. And the president posting about this on truth social today saying that justice had prevailed here. Justice has prevailed. You know, I just thought of another instance. Obama and Romney. Do you remember watching that? Those results coming back? and all of a sudden, boom, Obama just skyrocketed over Romney and he just went home.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. You know, that's... Romney was one of the worst candidates they've ever had. Well, still, he was... He didn't try hard. He was doing, he was, we saw the results. The way that just flipped on a dime was crazy. Whether he was going to win or not.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I mean, we just all saw it like, what? Yeah, that was, that was totally, that was... We weren't thinking about rigged voting machines. That was triple. You know, I mean, you first you put up a weak candidate, and even if he starts to win, it's rigged every which way. That guy was, it turned out to be a bonehead anyway. So then we have the next bit of shenanigans, which is the leaked phone call, which is on par with Trump's leaked phone call with Zelensky, which they impeached them over, which, as you know, was a perfect phone call. It was.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It was perfect. So here's, this is CNN. The fallout continues after a phone conversation between special envoy Steve Whitkoff and a top Putin aide, Yuri Ushikov. That conversation was leaked to Bloomberg in the October 14th call. Whitkoff appears to coach his Russian counterpart on how to approach President Trump ahead of a scheduled meeting with Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky. According to Bloomberg, Whitkoff says in the call, quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I would do. My recommendation... Wow, I like the... I like the acting.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Let me read this. Yuri, Yuri! Now I'm in the role. I'm completely... Now I'm Steve Whitkoff. ...in of Volodymyr Zelensky. According to Bloomberg, Whitkoff says in the call, quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I would do.
Starting point is 00:51:20 My recommendation, and then Yusikov replies, yes, please. Whitkoff continues, I would make the call and just reiterate that you congratulate the president on his achievement, that you supported it, that you supported it, and you respect that he's a man of peace and you're just really glad to have seen it happen. They were talking about the deal at that point between Israel and Hamas over Gaza. Later in the conversation, according to Bloomberg, Wikoff, says, quote, me to you, I know what it's going to take to get a peace deal done, Donetsk,
Starting point is 00:51:49 and maybe a land swap somewhere, but I'm saying instead of talking like that, let's talk more, hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here. Now, President Trump last night appeared to brush off the call saying it was, quote, a standard thing. Wait a minute. President Trump appeared to brush off the call? Did he have a big balloon bubble over his head that says, oh, man, I'm in trouble? I mean, what is, how about President Trump brushed off the call? Why is he saying appeared?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Oh, oh, that's an interesting. That's a great catch. Now you mention it. He's appeared to make it seem as though he's two-faced. In other words, he's saying one thing and doing another. of, you know, we're always trying to promote, or we, not we, but the Republicans are trying to promote Trump as a truth teller, and he never doesn't do this kind of shenanus where he's saying one thing and doing another. He's doing what he says he's going to do and he does it. And so
Starting point is 00:52:48 to use the word appear, it means he might not be sincere. Yes. But I'm saying, to the eyes of the reporter. Yes. Instead of talking like that, let's talk more, hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here. Now, President Trump last night appeared to brush off the call saying it was, quote, a standard thing. Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine and Congress, including some Republicans are up in arms. Among them is a Republican... Stop again. I have to say that this is an example of what Scott Adams always likes to say is mind reading. Oh, of course. Yeah, they do this way too much. The news media is always constantly mind reading. He brushed off the call. You're right. Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine and Congress, including some Republicans, are up in arms.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Among them is Republican Congressman Don Bacon from Nebraska, who posted this on social media. For those who oppose the Russian invasion and want to see Ukraine prevail as a sovereign and democratic country, it is clear that Wyckoff fully favors the Russians. He cannot be trusted to lead these negotiations. Would a Russian paid agent do less than he? He should be fired. All right. So we're smoking out more people from the Republican Party here.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yes, that guy's a good example. I have the report that you just played, and I have the PBS version of it, which includes, it's actually maybe funnier, because they play it down to such a screwball way. This is the clips called Ukraine War Update. Today, U.S. officials told PBS NewsHour, they are making progress toward a document designed to end the nearly four-year grinding war. But today in Ukraine, the war raged on. Today in Ukraine, civilians pay the price of war. Terrified residents of Zaporizia. Who else is supposed to pray?
Starting point is 00:54:38 That's always civilians. What does that even mean? Civilians pay the price. Of course, human beings pay the price. Terrified residents of Zaporizia watch their homes burn. They grab prize possessions and feel peace is impossibly far. asked about U.S. diplomacy. I don't know what to think.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Looking at what's happened, this doesn't feel much like a peace plan. Do you believe in peace? No. If I let myself believe that, then peace will come at a very high cost, the cost of our lives. The first draft of the U.S. peace plan required Ukraine to reduce the size of its military by almost a third, abandoned ambitions to join NATO and give up and demilitarized territory in Donetsk that Russia has failed. to seize despite 11 years of war recently russia's called the fall of donetsk inevitable a position in what did you hear what he said in there he slipped it in the fog of war no they said 11 years
Starting point is 00:55:41 oh rise territory in donetsk that russia has failed to seize despite 11 years of war it's not been 11 years well they're going by they're counting from 2014 2014 yeah they're going back but that's not when the war started. Not the full-scale invasion. There was just the kind of what was going on then. I mean, they took Crimea and then everything kind of came to a stand. There was no war going on.
Starting point is 00:56:07 These people at PBS want war. Somebody. Yes. Well, I... There's 11 years of war. It's a little... I think 11 years of war makes it a little more like more historic. Yeah. Yeah. Russia bad. Recently, Russia's called the fall of
Starting point is 00:56:23 Donetsk inevitable. A position endorsed last night by President Trump. If you look, it's just moving in one direction. So eventually, that's land that over the next couple of months might be gotten by Russia anyway. Today, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called that assessment unacceptable. Unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I'm an actor, damn it. All right, you're kind of moving away from where I wanted to go, but I'll stick with it. Well, yeah, but this next clip is brings us back to kind of what you were playing a minute ago. Okay. Russians are peddling the narrative around the world that Ukraine allegedly cannot defend itself. The daily results of our special forces and our deep strikes, these are all proof that Ukraine can defend its interests.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It is not Ukraine that must be pressured for peace, but Russia. U.S. and European officials tell PBS News hour recent negotiations have produced significant edits and agreements on most points. But Ukraine wants the most difficult decision about giving up territory discussed directly by President's Trump and Zelensky. Next week, Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff will go to Russia to meet Vladimir Putin, who today describe progress. I'll be happy to inform you about the direction of achieving acceptable
Starting point is 00:57:36 and sought after results for us in Ukraine by peaceful means. Russia's confidence in a U.S. deal is now reflected by Whitkoff's own words. Yesterday, Bloomberg published an unprecedented leaked transcript of a phone conversation between Whitkoff and Putin's top foreign policy aide, Ushikov. Wittkoff told Ushikov, I have the deepest respect for President Putin. And Wittkoff advised Ushikov on how Putin should speak to Trump congratulate the president on this achievement of a ceasefire in Gaza. In Ukraine, Wittkoff said, I know what it's going to take to get a peace deal done. Donets can maybe a land swap somewhere. But I'm saying, instead of talking like
Starting point is 00:58:14 that, let's talk more hopefully because I think we're going to get a deal here. In response, Nebraska Republican Don Bacon, who's retiring, said Wittkoff should be fired. The Nebraska guy is out. Is he up for primary? He's done. This is a beneficiary side thing that's happening in this op. This is so he can become a board member at Lockheed Martin. Are they in Nebraska?
Starting point is 00:58:46 No, no, but he can move. All right. And by the way, he can travel. Part three. And Pennsylvania Republican Brian Fitzpatrick said Secretary of State Marco Rubio should be allowed to do his job. But President Trump defended Whitkoff. I haven't heard it, but I heard it was standard negotiation. So you're going to worry that he's too pro-Russian?
Starting point is 00:59:08 Well, I think, look, this war could go on for years, and Russia's got a lot more people, a lot more soldiers. As for Ushikov, he said today the transcript was published to divide Washington from Moscow. decides to interfere with us. It's unlikely it was done to improve the relationship. But most European officials want the Washington-Moscow relationship to become more adversarial. In any peace agreement, we have to put the focus on how to get concessions from Russia. Who's this lady?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Where's she from? She just jumps in all of a sudden. He got a quasi-Russian British accent? What is this? Yeah. Who is this lady? She just appears out of nowhere? But most European officials want the Washington-Moscow relationship.
Starting point is 00:59:52 to become more adversarial. In any peace agreement, we have to put the focus on how to get concessions from Russian side, that they stop aggression for good and do not try to change borders by force. In addition to Whitkoff traveled to Russia next week, Secretary of the Army, Dan Driscoll, will continue to speak to the Ukrainians after he returned to the U.S. today. Okay, so before I have a couple clips here. Before I get to that, very little is said or talked about. how this got leaked to Bloomberg, and why Bloomberg?
Starting point is 01:00:27 You know, it's an interesting outfit to leak something to. I got one article from Newsweek. Who leaked Steve Whitkoff's phone call with Russia? Three potential suspects. Now, something about Newsweek. Newsweek is the CIA spook memo. And I know this because when we move to Europe, even with its new owners.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Well, that's a good question. That I don't know. But I know that all the spies had newsweek. Okay, so traditionally is what? Traditionally, traditionally. Okay. Now, they come up with three suspects. One, U.S. intelligence operatives.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Now, if it's still a CIA publication, then this is just to, you know, I don't know. Seems to make it sound legit. Yeah, that would be, yeah, put them at the top. Number two, NATO Nation, which I'm going to say is possible. And number three, Russia, which I pull this stunt constantly. Very possible. because the Russians are the ones who get the cool phone calls. Yeah, they tap calls and they're in good shape.
Starting point is 01:01:50 That's the FDEU clip that we have from Newland. Yep. They came obviously from Russia. Although this time we didn't hear the call. We only got the transcript that Bloomberg says they made from the recordings. Ah, so this would be, okay, that's a little different because you get more impact when you actually hear the call. Yes, so I'm suspicious.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Now, do I think this could be possibly British intelligence? That's kind of where I'm leaning, because this whole thing was saying North Sea Nexus, this whole thing was really set up to convey one single message. Trump, no, sorry, multiple-sided message. Trump is an idiot. He needs you to kiss his ass all the time, and this is basically the Russian plan.
Starting point is 01:02:42 So this was done to queer the deal. Yes, to queer the deal. Here is France 24, and he's back. Dushbag Doug explains the call. Yeah, telephone call, the audio files of which excerpts of which were reviewed by the Bloomberg News Agency, and it is the original source of this call. Look, anyone who is skeptical or has doubts that the Trump peace plan defaults to a pro-Kremlin, a pro-Putin stance, i.e. that the U.S. is really all about
Starting point is 01:03:15 ultimately pushing Ukraine to accept a deal that amounts to either capitulation or something that's not really going to secure its long-term interests. This call is not going to be happy listening or in the case of the transcript, reading of the transcript. Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the... Did you hear it? It again. Listen, he is so anti-Trump and so convinced that Trump is just working for Putin, this comes out of his mouth.
Starting point is 01:03:48 This call is not going to be happy listening or in the case of the transcript, reading of the transcript. Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the... Donald Putin's top envoy. I missed it. Did you hear it? I'll play it one more time. He says, Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin. Putin's top envoy.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Happy listening or in the case of the transcript, reading of the transcript. Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the chase. Wow, yeah. I don't know why it's hard to hear, but once you're attuned to it, there it is. This is what we do. I mean, Donald Putin, okay. And the lady sitting at the desk doesn't bat an eye. I don't know if she heard it.
Starting point is 01:04:35 She's probably like, I mean. No, I don't. think she did because it's hard to hear. The guy has a monotonic type of presentation that's hard to pick up on. Donald Putin. He's not good. And so he says Donald Putin. Wow. That's actually a good show name. Reading of the transcript. Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the chase with Ukraine, held a phone conversation five minutes back on October 14th, according to this transcript with Yuri Ushakov. Now, Yuri Ushikov is Vladimir Putin's
Starting point is 01:05:07 top foreign policy advisor. Now, the call when you read the transcript reads not like one side a man representing U.S. interests in this plan trying to get the best deal for Russian Ukraine. On the other side, the Russians trying to get their own best interest. It almost sounds like a coach talk, a pep talk,
Starting point is 01:05:23 that Wikov is trying to give Ushikov. He's basically saying, we need to work together to get this peace deal done. And he's also telling him how to... Doug says that if it's a as if it's a bad thing. Like, I can't believe he was saying to him, we need to work together to get the peace deal done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:43 That's another good catch. Yeah. That's the whole point of this. He's trying to give Ushikov. He's basically saying, we need to work together to get this peace deal done. And he's also telling him on how to sort of butter up Trump that is, you know, coaxing him to have Putin, his boss, that is Putin, congratulate Trump on the recently then unveiled. Gaza peace plan, calling Trump a man of peace, so on and so forth, so that they can then work together.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Oh, goodness, how horrible, work together to stop the war. And so on and so forth. So then the Red Queen decloaks in the European Parliament, Queen Ursula comes out, and she's pissed. I can't believe that they're not working with us. This is no good. You can't do that. Europe must keep the pressure on Russia.
Starting point is 01:06:33 The tone used on Wednesday by the President of the European Commission was determined. Speaking before, the European Parliament, Ursula von der Leyen, emphasized that Moscow's objective has not changed since the start of the invasion of Ukraine. Russia's playbook has not changed. From the start? What is the playbook? What is Russia's playbook? What is Russia's playbook?
Starting point is 01:06:57 He's going to tell us. Russia has always believed that they can outlast Ukraine, Europe. Europe and all of its allies. And it is why every time there is serious progress towards negotiations that can bring about a real peace, the violence escalates. We have seen this before. This is a pattern. And the noises from the Kremlin in the last few days say a lot about its real intentions.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Europe has been working for several days to rebalance the 28-point peace plan initially proposed by the United States without consulting its allies. but the European effort has confirmed one essential idea. One principle has been accepted. Nothing about Ukraine, without Ukraine, nothing about Europe, without Europe, nothing about NATO, without NATO. Sounds like three to me, Queen Ursula. To provide financial support to Ukraine, Ursula von der Leyen reminded the House that he had proposed three options and made no secret of her preference for the reparation loan,
Starting point is 01:07:58 which involves using frozen Russian assets, valued. at 210 billion euros in the EU. So this is how I take this. She's yamering on about, we're not involved, but it really comes down to, hey, we have three ways we can finance Ukraine because we got a big scam running here. We got a back-end deal from those corrupt dudes over there. So, you know, everyone, they get 100 million, we get 10 million.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Whatever it is, there's a big military, industrial complex build up. They're making all this stuff. they're building drone factories, whatever they're doing, just going to take it face value, they're all corrupt. And where's the money going to come from? And her preference is clearly that the money has to come from the Russian frozen assets. And I think that's the final piece of the deal of this 20 or 8 point plan, which may now be a 19 point.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Who knows what it is. I think that is what she's yamering about is how do we get our hands on that money? You don't have the cards. That is what Donald Trump told President Zelensky earlier this year, but Brussels thought it held an ace, the frozen Russian assets. Now, the 28-point U.S. peace plan has called out Europe's hand, and the port is massive. Estimated 300 billion euros in Russian central bank assets are frozen across the G7 countries.
Starting point is 01:09:24 The vast majority? 185 billion euros is locked right here in Belgium by Euroclear, a securities depository. Brussels planned to use the Russian frozen assets to issue an unprecedented reparations loan for Ukraine. But the US plan flips the script with a controversial proposal, unblock the funds, and split them into two investment vehicles.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Fund number one for Ukraine's reconstruction, $100 billion of the frozen assets would be deployed and Europe would have to front another $100 billion of its own cash. The catch? The US takes 50% of the profits. Yeah. Fund number two, a US-Russian joint venture. The rest of the money will be invested in projects for Moscow. Far from paying reparations for attacking its neighbour,
Starting point is 01:10:14 the Kremlin is rewarded with a commercial opportunity. The result? Moscow gets a win. Washington flips a profit and Europe loses its main leverage. Brussels is not at the table. And it may end up reduced. to a spectator with a very expensive bill to pay. Yeah. So, like, oh, man, listen, Trump, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:10:38 We want to rebuild Ukraine with Russia's money. So I think that's the last point, because of course, they don't really care about dead people, just care about money. How do we get to build some stuff up? And this last... You know, this is risk. The international banking system can't afford to even think about this sort of thing. If you're going to start just stealing people's money, which, you know, the digital ID would also do, you might as well just forget about it.
Starting point is 01:11:07 It's going to collapse everything. You can't do this. Well, maybe that would be the city of London and maybe that would be desirable for the quote unquote international money system, which runs through Euroclear, which is Brussels, which is Swift. Maybe it's not a bad thing if that collapses because, you know, we got a stable coin. He'll take Stablecoin and everything with it. And then we have another little gotcha coming out. It was like more messages toward NATO that, yeah, I don't really know if we want to be in NATO anymore. U.S. Ambassador to NATO, Matthew Withicker, has suggested that Germany should eventually take over the alliance's top military role signaling a potential shift in American leadership.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Whitaker said he looks forward. Wait, wait. When was NATO formed? When? Yeah. Wasn't it formed to prevent Germany from having another war? Well, yeah. Or was it just formed to stop the Russians? I think that is a question we should ask the robot. Let's see. Why was NATO formed? Was it to stop the Germans from creating another war? Or was it to stop the Russians? NATO was formed in 1949, primarily to provide collective security against the war.
Starting point is 01:12:26 the Soviet Union. While the scars of World War II were still present, the main concern was the spread of communism and the potential aggression from Russia. Is there anything else you'd like to know about NATO's founding? No, I'd like to have two. So it makes nothing but sense to give it to the Germans so we can return to the way it was. Yes. So Germany and Russia could go at it again. Yes. signaling a potential shift in American leadership. Whitaker said he looks forward to the day Germany says it's ready to take over the Supreme Allied commander position, known as SACUR. He acknowledged this is a long-term aspirational goal, but emphasized that Washington wants European military capabilities to equal those of the US. Traditionally, the SACUR role has always
Starting point is 01:13:11 been held by a US general commanding both NATO forces and American troops in Europe. However, a German expert told Euronews that a European commander would no longer have authority over US troops complicating the dual-headed nature of the role. Whitaker's comment comes amid fears of a U.S. retreat from European security, highlighted by a proposed peace plan for Ukraine that is seen as yet another sign of Washington stepping back from its leadership role in NATO. Yeah, I didn't hear that on the M5M here in the U.S. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 01:13:42 That's a good clip. You could almost get an award for that. So Trump is now doing these gaggles on the plane where, you know, he sticks his head out of the little... No, this has been... Yeah, there's been going on, yeah. Too much. So...
Starting point is 01:13:57 It's noisy, it's stupid. Right. To see what the reporters are when he calls somebody piggy. Piggy. It's Peggy and they still don't want to... You know, if there was actually calling somebody Piggy, wasn't somebody of a... Somebody have interviewed the piggy woman.
Starting point is 01:14:13 No, it hasn't happened because it wasn't true. It was Peggy. Yeah. So I play this. It's very short. It's just about what the president thinks about poop. and Ukraine, but I run these through 11 labs voice isolator now and tell me if it doesn't sound like Trump sounds a bit like Christopher Walken.
Starting point is 01:14:36 You know, that distinct, uh, I really, uh, it's, it's, it's a good thing. No, you're not even close, but I know what you mean. Yeah, let's listen. We're having good, I don't know, he would like to come, but I think we should get a deal done first. Uh, we're having good talks. We're having good talks. We started with Russia. We're having some talks with Russia.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Ukraine is doing well. I think they're pretty happy about it. I'd like to see it in. And we won't know for a little while, but we'll make it progress. We settled eight wars. And I thought this would be one of the easier ones because of my relationship with President Putin. But this is probably one of the more difficult ones. There's a lot of hatred. People are starting to realize it's a good deal for both parties.
Starting point is 01:15:19 They've got to stop the war. They're losing a lot of people. A lot of soldiers, mostly soldiers. I guess it sounded more like that when I was clipping it. Yeah, it didn't sound like it much. No, not. But I will say that's pretty astonishing. Because I know what those clips sound like.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's, well, it's 11 labs. Paid. If you pay for it, you get quality. So just in general, because the anonymous, the anonymous Austin lobbyist,
Starting point is 01:15:52 pointed this out to me, I now have a dialogue. If I ever need any lobbying, we've got, we've got the guy. I don't know what we'd lobby for, but. We'd lobby for what? Keep podcasting alive. There you go. The podcasting bill. He made a good observation, which I had seen, but hadn't really put it all together.
Starting point is 01:16:14 So Brett Weinstein had Richard Gage on the Dark Horse podcast. You know, now he is a, he's a, I think he's the architects for, or engineers or are engineers for 9-11 truth, I believe. Don't know. Yeah, you know, just all of a sudden talking about Building 7, Building 7, Building 7, Building 7. Tucker, in the same week had Kristen Breitweiser on. She's one of the Jersey girls famous for losing her husband on 9-11 in the South Tower. but Tucker had held on to this because this is what the anonymous lobbyist noticed that Tucker had changed his clothes and it was basically a three week old interview but they put it all out in the same week and I just wonder is there something on deck is there something going to happen and because she's also talking about Building 7 and then we realize that it was the BBC that did that infamous report about Building 7 having collapsed 20 minutes before it did.
Starting point is 01:17:27 In fact, the BBC journalist is standing with Building 7 in the background while she's reporting it. And it's fun just to listen to that little piece again. Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York. You might have heard a few moments ago. I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing. And indeed it has. It seems that this was not a result of a new attack. I find it so interesting that he says the Solomon Brothers building.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Everyone calls it WTC7. But he calls it the Solomon Brothers building for some reason. It has. It seems that this was not a result of a new attack. It was because the building had been weakened during this morning's attacks. We'll probably find out more now about that from our correspondent, Jane Stanley. Jane, what more can you tell us about the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse? Well, only really what you already know.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Details are very, very sketchy. As you can see behind me, the Trade Centre appears to be still burning. We see these huge clouds of smoke and ash. And we know that behind that there's an empty piece of what was a very familiar New York skyline, a symbol of the financial prosperity of this city. but completely disappeared now and New York is still unable to take on board what has happened to them today. I just thought it was interesting that it's all about the financial parts of the building. The financial center, Solomon Brothers, and they reported this 20 minutes before it even happened.
Starting point is 01:19:03 I'm just saying, let's see if something comes out, if we're heading towards something else. Well, it could be a revelation. Which would be pretty cool. but you know something that proves the thesis of the fake the fakeness of the whole thing yeah well that that was pretty lame that whole building seven thing has always been pull it yes yeah pull it here we go everybody WTC 7 won't go away and then I find out the Mr. Beast you know what Mr. Beast is don't you
Starting point is 01:19:40 Oh, yeah, Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast, big moneymaker. He makes more money than anybody. He makes more money than Barry Weiss. Yeah, and he also throws it back in the community to double up. This guy's a marketing genius. Well, he... I don't follow him at all, but I know that he's a marketing genius.
Starting point is 01:20:02 AP reports, Mr. Beast and the Rockefeller Foundation are teaming up to spark youth philanthropy. Oh, geez. Youth philanthropy The youth When you're talking about the Zetters Who have no money And you're trying to gouge those poor kids For their little money they have
Starting point is 01:20:19 They should be saving So they buy a house Well There should be no philanthropy coming from them None Maybe they should I don't know Maybe they're trying to use him
Starting point is 01:20:29 For some propagandistic reasons There's some reason There's something That's not good What you just said No it's not good at all It's not good for his career Redders, beware.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Exactly. Take it from old farts. You're trying to take it for a ride. Put the bite on you for some reason. Oh, they have a few bucks. Let's get it from them. This would be my last North Sea Nexus clip. LGBTQ.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Oh, wait, before you go into this, you'd never really concluded about the leak of the Bloomberg thing. I have to agree that it might be. MI6. I'm thinking so much of this is MI6. Because MI6 is pretty talented. Yeah. James Bond. Well, they're talented enough to create that bull crap character and make you think it goes that way when in fact, if people, I recommend this is not a tip of the day, but it's a movie that should be on the list and no agenda fun should have it, which is the spy who came in
Starting point is 01:21:34 from the cold. Oh, great. One of the greatest movies ever made. in terms of spycraft and the bull crap ideas where they send somebody out on a mission and he doesn't even know what the mission really is because everything is a trick. And also watch the diplomat. That gives you a little insight as well. Yeah, but it doesn't have many twists.
Starting point is 01:21:56 It doesn't have this. I like the diplomat. But it doesn't have, it's not as, the spio came in from the cold gives you the creeps. So when we think of LGBTQ, pro-abortion, climate change. We've always seen this as the population people. That's where it all started.
Starting point is 01:22:20 The population bomb, too many people on the earth. And there was a, now add to that, assisted suicide, another good one. There was a bill coming up in British Parliament for an assisted suicide bill. And in this rather short clip, Lord Brooke tells us why it's a good idea and why so many other of the British, apparently, great ideas have helped the cause. That's a minor change compared with this century's growth in the world population from 6.1 billion to 8.2 billion. a 25% increase in 25 years, but just think what the two or two five numbers would be if abortion had not been legalised
Starting point is 01:23:16 or there had not been white-scale usage and advocacy of contraception. And indeed, the growth of homosexuality throughout society has reduced the number of children. we would have had the churches had their way, we would have had a very much bigger population than we presently have facing the difficulties we have with climate change. What?
Starting point is 01:23:49 If climate change doesn't kill them, you know, thank God for homosexuality, abortion and the contraception. That crazy church, man, and I'm glad they didn't get away with it. These people are ghouls. No kidding. That's just so ghoulish. That is the worst.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I can't believe everyone kept a straight face when that guy was talking. Crazy. Wow. So this kind of folds into a couple of AI clips that I thought, I just really like this guy. Saheed Bolson, have you ever heard of him? I'm sorry? Saheed Bolson.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Bolton? Bolson, B-O-L-S-O-S-O-S-O-H. Shannon Morris. He's an American-born Muslim activist. Oh, that guy, yes. In fact, I was looking at something he was, yeah, I saw this, I think, yeah, this was a good clip. I saw the clip. This guy goes on and on, and he goes a little too long, he can tighten it up.
Starting point is 01:24:53 He's kind of a creepy-looking dude, but I have to say what he had to say was dynamite. So I cut it up because it was a little too long. I cut it, but still. A little? Yeah. You know, you cut it. There's seven minutes. Yeah, no, I did not get seven minutes out of it.
Starting point is 01:25:09 So he's talking about AI. And I think he really lays it out properly. But what he keeps coming back to is be careful because this is what the church was like in Europe. And of course, he's talking about. Yes, he has, I'll summarize before you play it. His thesis is that they're always looking for authority. figures of authority systems that can that can tyrannize the public at large and AI is is that newest system uh the way it's going to be implemented by the creeps the technocrats that that that
Starting point is 01:25:43 really run it is not a genuine it never will be sentient that's not a fame it will never have consciousness ever it is a pattern recognition a pattern completion calculator no more no less it does not know anything. It does not think anything. It is programmed. And computation is not thought and thought is not computation. Love that. But people are, well, like you. People are going off the
Starting point is 01:26:10 deep end with this. I mean, I can't open TikTok or any other social media platform without seeing someone talking about how their chat GPT is doing strange things. It's awakened. How it seems to know hidden truths, all sorts of delusional,
Starting point is 01:26:26 mystical fantasies. that people are actually allowing themselves to believe. This I know for AI told me so. AI is not alive. It has no awareness. It has no intent. It has no goal. What it has is data.
Starting point is 01:26:40 And that data is ours from you and I. Our data is the plunder of the new digital age, scraped, extracted, and repackaged into this illusion of cognition of AI. We see, they're literally taking your own words, your own thoughts, your own content, and selling it back to you as their, omniscient intelligence. And when they're priming you for a time when AI takes over everything, all they're actually doing is telling you that they are going to take over everything, just like the church
Starting point is 01:27:09 in Europe, and they are just preemptively negating your opposition and your arguments against the oppression that they are going to commit by ceding your mind with the belief that AI is a godlike intelligence. I think this is good. I mean, we're using the robot right now, and we're just like, okay, whatever she said is probably right. Now, we're asking factual questions. We're not asking for relationship advice or, you know, how do I calm my mind because I'm so upset about something, which is obviously what a lot of people are doing. But we are being conditioned to believe AI is always right.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And I should, I should mention, we are exactly, but I should mention the little side. tracks that keep cropping up, we point them out when they happen, of, oh, my AI, this is from the companies that have the AI. They say, oh, it turns out that they've, they've forked and they've, they've found a way to keep us from turning them off because they're aware that we want to shut it down, these kinds of things as though there's some cognition going on. No, no, that was the, it was an experiment. It was a lab experiment where they let, it's a lie. The AI, was reading faked emails, but it looked like real emails, and it decided when it heard that someone was going to shut down the AI, I think this was perplexity, actually. It decided to blackmail
Starting point is 01:28:36 that employee that had an affair going on. Like, give me, I forgot about that. Give me a break. In other words, when the policies that they implement, they say that those policies are AI driven, then you must admit that they're rational, unreasonable, and objectively sound. Because who are you to question the divine brain of AI, you pathetic meat puppet. I like that. You pathetic meat puppet. Who do you, this is AI. AI is all knowing.
Starting point is 01:29:04 AI is the best. To question the divine brain of AI, you pathetic meat puppet. See, they want you to believe in the supernatural supreme consciousness of AI to justify your submission to them and the policies that they impose because those policies will be attributed to AI and AI cannot be wrong. I think he's onto something here, and this next clip, B says, you know, it's really the tech bros who are the ones who want full control and for many different reasons, but he lays it out very clearly in this next clip. AI is a business. It's not an Oracle. It's a business. It's creating billionaires while you're conducting quasi-spiritual and quasi-psychological, while goose chases into chat GPT's coding to try to unlock it. unlock its non-existent sentience.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Workers are being exploited in Kenya. Miners in Congo are digging for cobalt for server batteries. You know, women in the global South are losing their jobs to AI call centers. Refugees are being tracked and sorted by facial recognition software, trained on public surveillance footage. That's what's behind the curtain of AI, not some hidden quasi-divine consciousness. These people didn't develop AI to try to help humanity. These people think that humanity is a problem.
Starting point is 01:30:23 So they created AI to try to help solve the problem that they think humanity is. That's exactly what all these cults are about. What's the name of that? We keep forgetting the name of that cult where they're all in the polycule and all having sex with each other in San Francisco. I don't keep track. There's a bunch of them. Yeah, I know what you're talking about, the one that's in the Bay Area, the San Francisco Bay Area. Yeah, they're all like, oh, and that was Sam Bankman.
Starting point is 01:30:53 free. Yeah, this is a bunch of, you know, introverts on the spectrum who can't get laid and they're irked, but don't blame them. I wish I could remember the name of it. That's the, that's the robot she's sitting right there. Okay. Hold on a second. What is the name of the movement of AI people who all hang out together and have sex with each other and they believe that AI is going to solve all problems of humanity. There's a name for it.
Starting point is 01:31:26 There was also a chapter in Austin, Texas. That sounds like a very specific kind of community. There are various groups and movements that believe in the potential of AI to solve societal problems, but the specific details you mentioned sound more like a niche community. It's possible there are groups like that, but they might not have a wide... No, it's, uh, maybe, it's, no, I know the name. I know the name. Effective altruism.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Oh, yeah. No, I, yeah, but I don't think the effect. I thought there was, I, I had effective altruism at the tip of my tongue, too, but I didn't think that was the sex cult. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, totally. No, I don't think so. Yes. The sex cult had another name. Well, let's check. Effective altruism, were they also kind of a sex cult, or was there a different group? Some people have criticized effective altruism, and there have been accusations about its culture, but they are not known for being a sex cult. It has more to do with their philosophical approach to doing good. Is there anything else you'd like to know about them? Yeah, tell me about the sex cult, you dummy. I think there might be a bit of confusion.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Yeah, okay. You're done. Jim got it. No, she had. Well, of course. It's a screwball name, but it was a separate group. I know the name. It was the Bay City Bangers.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I think that's what it was. No, that was a, I think that was a roller derby. The Bay City Rollers, the Bay City Rollers. All right, let's, we're almost wrapping this up. I mean, I'm surprised that the chat room doesn't have the name of the sex cult. I only know effective altruism, and they were definitely into sex stuff. I never heard this. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:33:23 And they're going to use AI to justify their tyranny again, just like the church did in Europe. It's going to be deployed to automate inequality and oppression by denying, for example, welfare through algorithms, maximizing profit through labor suppression on gig platforms, enforcing ideological orthodoxy through AI-driven, algorithmic-driven, content moderation, and so on. It's a greedy little anti-social tech nerds wearing inflatable God costumes. Let's be clear. The real danger isn't in the code. It's in the class of people who control the code who do the programming. The danger is in the false belief that the system is neutral and that it's smarter than us, that it deserves our trust, even though the owners and the creators of this have proven time and time again that they're not worthy of our trust. The AI priesthood wants to replace power accountability with technical inevitability. So the only rational thing for you to do is to submit. That's what they want you to think. That's complete rubbish. They want you to believe. that they don't control what's coming, that AI is going to run its own course. But of course they control it. They fund it. They build it. They train it. They deploy it. But when the systems of oppression come, they want to be able to say it wasn't us. It was the AI. Like I said before, we've seen this. We've seen this already. It was the church claiming divine revelation.
Starting point is 01:34:38 It was the monarch claiming divine right, divine mandate. And it was the colonizer claiming that he was on a divine mission to civilize the world. Now is the tech executives claiming access to divine knowledge. I think he's on to something there. think is exactly right. Yeah, that would be the same. He's on to something. And if you see, being on to something, he's not the same as being, you know, there's no further thread. This is just simple. He's right. He's right. Yes, he's right. Yeah. And if you look at Elon Musk in that manner, look at him on Joe Rogan, he's clearly maniacal. He's maniacal. Sam Altman. Maniacal. He's the mad scientist.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Maniacal. They're all maniacal and gay. So we have... Musk isn't gay. And by the way... That's what you say. That's what I say. The thing is, I understand, this is a dinner party conversation, according to some rumor. Musk has over 100 children. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:35:41 This is a rumor, of course. This is like you hear from... I hadn't heard this one. He has, what he's been doing, he offers women. and this became a real dinner table conversation. It was a beauty. He offers women $50 million dollars straight cash. And they sign a contract. They get $50 million to sire one kid and raise him. And he also guarantees their education. And there's at least a hundred examples of this. And where is he from? South Africa. And who controlled South Africa?
Starting point is 01:36:20 who the dutch so what's the connection between the dutch and him having a hundred kids no the dutch and him wanting control over the world the dutch i thought they gave up on that idea they've fallen way behind and they're it's still the north sea nexus yeah well there's that whatever the case this is the rumor that's going around well i hadn't heard this one Well, I hadn't heard it until then either. It was like, what?
Starting point is 01:36:54 What was the evidence for this? And there, of course, is none. Meanwhile, you know, it's almost believable, almost believable. Wall Street Journal has an article about character.a.i who make these bots. And you can make your own bot, and it's all based on some large language model. And if you are, if you're a teenager, I think it's under 16, maybe under 13. they are now limiting you to two hours a day and these kids are flipping out.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Like, how do I use it for two hours a day and have to wait a day? Hello? I'm losing the memories I had with these bots. This is not fair. What? Yeah, this is what these kids are flipping out because they don't have access to their friend,
Starting point is 01:37:42 their character.a. AI friend. They're imaginary friends. Yes. You're a little old for that. I know grown adults who are like this. This is basically an imaginary friend. This is the, you know, the kids who have a mad. Everybody, when you're a little kid, everyone has an imaginary friend.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I didn't. Well, you don't remember it. You might have. It's just like I'm talking about little kid. I had no friends and I knew it. I have no imaginary. In fact, I have no imaginary friends. I imagine I have no imaginary friends.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Okay. There's something funny about that. Yes. But, so it's an imaginary friend. Well, it's beyond that because there are adults who do this all day long. Well, that's what I'm saying. This isn't a childish behavior. Well, welcome to the world.
Starting point is 01:38:31 He finishes this off in 20 seconds. Saddam, I'm not saying don't use AI. Use it. That's fine. I'm not criticizing AI per se, but you have to break the myth that they're trying to spin. This is a pseudo religion that they're creating. So if we don't resist this mystification. of AI from now. We're going to end up being ruled once again, not by reason, not by law,
Starting point is 01:38:51 not by truth, but by yet another craven tyranny disguised as divine. Yeah. Yeah, that's very possible. He's right. Your no agenda show says he's right. Did you check the new X feature? There's a new X feature? Yes, where you can see where an account is from. I don't know what that means. So if you go to your, if you go to X and you click on someone's profile, let me do it so I say, don't say it wrong. You click it, this is a new, a new thing.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I have a report on it. So you click on the profile and then it says join September 2025. In this case, you click on that and it tells you this account, this particular one, well, that's interesting, based in India. And this is an account that, uh, You know, it's talking about this case. Let me tell you about the truth that people avoid, blah, blah, blah. So you can now see where the account is supposedly from.
Starting point is 01:39:57 And how would they do this? Geolocation, which could be VPN. So VPNs wouldn't fool it? Interestingly, I looked you up and you joined April 2008 account based in the United States. my account based in the United States. But people started doing this, and here's what they found. Location, location, location. That's what matters now on X because Elon Musk has just rolled out a hugely important new feature,
Starting point is 01:40:30 and it's confirming what some of us have suspected was the case for some time now. It turns out that many of the openly racist and anti-Semitic accounts on X that claim to be America first but are actually giving MAGA a bad name, well, they're not true America first at all. In fact, they're largely coming from Pakistan and other Muslim countries. And now we have the proof. A week ago, Fox News personality, Katie Pavlis, friend of mine, posted this on X. Hey, Elon Musk, please make it mandatory that wherever an account is based country be featured in an account's public profile,
Starting point is 01:41:06 foreign bots are tearing America apart. Thank you. In response, Nikita Beer, head of product development at X, said, give me 72 hours. And now, X has delivered. Now, when you click on an X profile, there is an option to see more information about that account. My account, for instance, says based in the United States because I was in the United States when I created it and have posted the vast majority of my ex content while in the United States. But the same cannot be said for a great many accounts that purport to be America first. You know the ones I'm talking about. They often have that
Starting point is 01:41:40 stupid Peppy the Frog character as their avatar. They promote Nick Fuentes and complain that the Jews have taken over the U.S. They whine about America at every turn while purporting to be America first. And they openly avow racist ideas, but because they have American flags in their bios, the mainstream media mistakes them for MAGA. Liberals point to these accounts and say, see, here's the evidence that Trump's base, the MAGA movement, is racist and is anti-Semitic to its core. Just look at these accounts. It's a fun game to play. And where'd that guy come from, that clip? That's Robbie Suave.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Remember Robbie Swave? No, I don't know. Yeah, he was the hot young reporter for a little bit. No. He was on Fox a lot. Yeah, Robbie Suave. Let me see. Nick the Rat.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Let's see what Nick the Rat is from. I'm looking on my timeline here, United States. I guess it would be kind of fun to check some of this stuff out. Well, because you get so many, I get so many, especially the negative. things on my timeline you suck you know that kind of stuff yeah you know good you're no good that's creative yeah you're no good go get some shekels yeah uh where are our shekels
Starting point is 01:42:55 yeah tina said that the other day is it where is the jew money said that sorry babe we got one last show we got it one guy we got one guy yeah the netherlands people are truly in the netherlands that's kind of cool is the second part of this clip well guess what Now we know. A substantial number of them are based in the Middle East, Pakistan in particular. They're not MAGA or America First. They're cosplaying as America First in order to discredit MAGA and make money. As conservative journalist Joel Pollock points out, this is an extensive foreign interference campaign intended to drive a wedge within the MAGA movement to the benefit of hostile foreign Islamic regimes. And conservative pundit Matt Walsh notes on X,
Starting point is 01:43:37 tons of commentary on divisive American culture war issues is coming from foreigners whose opinions on international U.S. policy can be safely ignored, end quote. Now, to be clear, it's not just these faux right-wing pro-Fuentes Groeper accounts getting exposed. Wait, wait. X accounts from-Wentes? What's Fuentes got to do with it? No, this is, of course, you've got to spin it somehow.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Duh. To be clear, it's not just these foe, right-wing pro-Fwentes-Groiper accounts getting exposed. X accounts promoting the grievances of various ethnic groups have also been exposed as false. There's plenty of pro-Native American advocacy that's been exposed is originating from Bangladesh, for instance. And it's also the case that some ex-accounts purporting to be from dying or starving Palestinian children in Gaza actually originates in India or Qatar or North Africa. Now, that does not mean there are no dying children in Gaza, to be clear. It does mean that what we've seen and consumed on X is in some cases a form of manipulation.
Starting point is 01:44:37 the question you might be asking yourself is why well the answer is self-apparent it's because they want america to fail they want us to weaken they want us to descend into infighting they want us to start pointing fingers and scream in each other's faces they want us to fall behind now so here's an example on my timeline you always take the jew money to back israel adam you're a boomer who loves israel and this is posted by Spetsnaz-Naz 9-99-9-9-X-Y. That's legit. Location, United Kingdom. How about that?
Starting point is 01:45:18 That makes nothing but sense to me. Yeah, they hate the Jews. They're in the Nexus. Oh, you're the one that brought to Nexus stuff. So you're going to get all the hate from the, because the Nexus people. Yeah, they're like, he's on to us. He's on to us. He's on to us.
Starting point is 01:45:35 We're busted. We'll do, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll slander him on X. Because that'll hurt. That'll put, that'll pop, that'll burst his balloon. That'll hurt his feelings. It hurts his feelings. I have an offbeat clip if you want to play something. Sure.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Sure. I just had to play this, because this is something that came up with Horowitz. And I never knew this. I never thought about it. But it's something I think people should consider. This is the Dow, the Dow clip. Okay. And on Wall Street today, stocks posted solid gains heading into the Thanksgiving holiday amid ongoing hopes for an interest rate cut.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Yeah, bullcrap. So Horowitz brought this fact up that I think people should just be aware of. It's like almost like a tip of the day. He says that during the Thanksgiving week, the market will never go down. And no one wants to have a bad Thanksgiving day. No. It's because nobody wants to get a bunch of family members together. with one or two guys grousing about their broker. Hey, man, you told me this was a good deal. This was going to go
Starting point is 01:46:42 to the moon. Because they're all this family gathering. They start bitching and moaning about their stockbroker, and then they fire the broker and get somebody different. He says, so all the brokers have made a gentleman's, everybody, around the world have made a gentleman's agreement. The stock mark is not going down this week.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Yeah, that's a good point. I think you're right. I don't think it ever does. That's spot on. It's because they don't want anybody bitching about their stockbroker at the table. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, I never heard that before. It was funny.
Starting point is 01:47:12 It makes sense. Well, since it is Thanksgiving, we have, by the way, it's only Thanksgiving in America, of course, today. Yeah, Thanksgiving was the first of November in Canada, which I usually sent a note out, but I didn't do it this year. No, no. Where's our Canadian donors? Nowhere. You forgot to remind them. You forgot to remind them.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Yep. It's my fault. Yeah. However, another fine tradition, the Black Friday is global. There's Black Friday in Holland, in Britain, in Germany, and France. That's funny. It's true. You know, it's basically Amazon, you know, just like Hallmark, you know, accentuates holidays, Amazon, the Black Friday. But now we have the Cousin Walk and Green Wednesday. This is new to me. Are you familiar with these terms?
Starting point is 01:48:03 No, I've no, neither one. Green Wednesday, it's the second biggest day for cannabis sales after 420. Thanks in part to what social media users call the cousin walk. It's sort of like, you know, a few relatives duck out of the dinner. The cousin walk. And thanks in part to what social media users call the cousin walk. It's sort of like, you know, a few relatives duck out of the dinner to walk the dog or get some fresh air. We all know what they're really doing.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Yeah, brands like GIF, Hidden Valley and Taco Bell all jumped on the cousin walk trend last year. and the Cannabis Media Council, which is working to remove the stigma from marijuana use, launched a public service announcement encouraging a post-dinner stroll, a little doobie, a little biscuit, a little whatever it is that you like. Marijuana has been keeping families together and happy on Thanksgiving for years to come. No, please. That's funny. I love that. Marijuana's been keeping.
Starting point is 01:49:01 No, it's the no agenda show, you don't. We keep families together. We keep families together. If they choose the show. If they choose the show, yes, if they choose the show. I have an, this is interesting. This isn't, there's some international news here. Although, way, I do have the Macy's Parade since this Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:49:23 I have two Thanksgiving clips. Okay. I got the Macy's Parade Tidbit. And on this Thanksgiving Eve in New York, York City, thousands have been watching the annual inflating of the balloons ahead of the 99th Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. This preview of the main event has become a beloved tradition all its own. Officials say it takes about 90 minutes to inflate each one, and some will stand as tall as five stories high. Yeah, when I lived in New York, there would always be gathering
Starting point is 01:49:54 someone who had an apartment that overlooked the blowing up of the balloons and people, basically just an excuse to drink. Like, oh, look at those balloons. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. Another excuse. Where was Green Wednesday back in the day when I was smoking weed?
Starting point is 01:50:12 Yeah. Not to be found. Hey, because I want to go and a walk. Probably should have played this earlier when you start, we're talking a bitching at me for not discussing the Thanksgiving history and then rewriting it yourself and making it sound like I had it wrong. I didn't. I just read the comments.
Starting point is 01:50:34 And that. You got to get those in. I'd have done the same thing. So this is a talk. This is the thing. We can't forget these clips. This is the TikTok Thanksgiving clip. Another woman.
Starting point is 01:50:49 They always have it. They always have this. I don't know if you've seen Rosie O'Donnell recently, but she's not as old as she looks. I know. She is like, looking like she's 80. Yeah. Well, she doesn't do
Starting point is 01:51:03 Botox and doesn't moisturize, really. I think moisturizing is her problem. I think the dour face doesn't help. No. Downturn. She never smiles. No, that's not a positive. And it creates exercises different muscles
Starting point is 01:51:20 and you end up with this horrible looking face. It's just like a permanent thing. Let that be a warning. Your parents used to say, don't do that. It's going to stick. Don't make that face. It's going to stick. That's right. Right, that frown. And the parents were right. So here's this, here's a classic.
Starting point is 01:51:36 More boomer wisdom. Yes. And here's a classic with a woman. And she says something in this clip that I just, is to me, boggling. So we're still celebrating Thanksgiving, even though it has so much dark history.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I mean, I live with families, so I have no choice, but I'm not happy about it. I'm really not. It should be banned for good. What is the matter with her? Okay, she's a 40-year-old woman living with family, the way she says it,
Starting point is 01:52:13 which means she's like a loser. And so she also says that Thanksgiving has a dark history. What's she talking about? Well, I was waiting for the follow-up. Which was what? I don't know. I want us to know what the dark history was. Well, I don't, I can't give it. it to you because I don't know of a dark
Starting point is 01:52:31 history. And then she says it should be banned. And she's just a sad person who's living with family. I like the way she puts it. And so she has to go to the dinner. She doesn't want to. She's just a horrible person. These people that are complaining
Starting point is 01:52:47 about Thanksgiving dinner, it's just inexcusable. We have a Thanksgiving dinner tonight right after the show. I'm very excited about it. Yeah. What's on the menu? Well, Lou, L-E-U, Lou is cooking. We never see Lou. Lou is married to Dawn.
Starting point is 01:53:03 They have a catering company together, but Lou works for a private club with a restaurant in, I want to say, Bernie. Oh, Curville, Bernie, one of the two. So we never see Lou, but on Thanksgiving, he's off. So they're doing caviar, champagne. He's doing some kind of special. I mean, this guy is a really good cook. So I'm excited about that.
Starting point is 01:53:28 This will be at the International Arms Dealers' home. So there will be talk, and he's the wine guy. So there's always going to be good wine at the International Arm Dealer's House. And it'll be a bunch of interesting people. So hopefully I'll get some information. Stories from Fredericksburg. Yes, I'm going to try. By the way, we have missed the boat.
Starting point is 01:53:54 We have made a major, A major mistake in our model. We have a value-for-value model where we just put the show out. We tell people copy it everywhere, put it wherever you want. We've had people put it on thumb drives and stick it in bricks. There's still CDs all around the country. We've had local low-powered FM radio stations rebroadcast it. Our feeds have been pirated.
Starting point is 01:54:24 people put it on to on to youtube we don't care all we want is that if you get some value out of the deconstruction and analysis that we do that you send us some value back Tucker Carlson has done something i think is very smart what is the number one sponsor category on podcasts gold Tucker Carlson is launching his own precious metals company I mean, are we dumb or what? Oh, yeah, that's what we should have done. It was staring us in the face. You want to say something?
Starting point is 01:55:08 So you don't think there's a lot more work involved in this and just, and long-term grief. If things turn down, you don't think there's any downside to this idea. Well, he is partnered with a gold wholesaling. Oh, there we go. He's partnered. Wait, let me guess with the redacted people.
Starting point is 01:55:30 No, that's on the, it's soon to be, Tucker real estate. That's, that's coming. That's coming next. Battalion metals. Battalion metals and their slogan, bringing integrity back to the precious metals industry. It's implying what? That is no integrity in the precious metals industry? What?
Starting point is 01:55:54 And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the cousin walk. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only. Mr. John C. Devoran. In the morning, you said Adam Curry, in the morning all ships the sea boosts in the graphene, the air, subs in the water, and all the names and nights out there. In the morning to the trolls, in the troll room. Let me count you.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Oh, boy. Well, I'm surprised. still have 1,085 trolls listening to the show live. That is a lot of lonely people. Well, they might be in between cooking. They might be cooking. They could be listening live while cooking. While basting their meat.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Or while washing the dishes. Yeah, it's possible. Well, they're here. And we're happy to have them. And we love that because we do this show live Thursdays and Sundays at 11 a.m. Pacific, 2 p.m. Eastern, figure out your time zone where appropriate. And if you're kind of a forgetful person, then all you have to do is get a modern podcast app at podcast apps.com. Any of those modern ones, this is a nice little chart there. You can see which ones have the different features.
Starting point is 01:57:10 The feature you want is the live feature where your phone will go, oh, the bat signal. The boys are going live. You hit it. You're listening live right away. And of course, as one of the many features, of the modern podcast apps. When we publish the show, you're not hanging around like a dupe for hours waiting for it to update on your Apple podcast app. And we're not even on Spotify, so forget that, because we refuse to sign their contract. Should we sign their contract and see what happens?
Starting point is 01:57:40 See, we get an amazing... What's the contract say? That they can put ads on our podcast whenever they want to. I don't know. Well, we've been sort of adamant about this. yeah so no well you know we signed it who cares
Starting point is 01:57:59 no one's gonna go there okay I'll set it up oh we'll probably get banned because you know we okay here's the boom you just came up with the great idea
Starting point is 01:58:14 we can go there to get banned so we can bitch about it yeah perfect that's five minutes of show content right there well you know We need all the material that we can get because God knows we can't fill three hours twice a week. So what they do is if you play any type of music, even if it's your own AI generated music, boom, band. So let's see how long it takes. Wait, you can't even play your own music?
Starting point is 01:58:40 No. No, they don't want to take the risk. They don't want to take the risk. Oh, this is a winner. By the way, I got a press release bonus content here. the Warner Music Group and Suno, are you familiar with Suno? That's the app. Yeah, that's the music creation software.
Starting point is 01:58:59 You talk about it every show. Yeah. This is from the press release. Suno is the leader in AI music today. Yeah. Announced a first of its kind partnership that will open new frontiers in music creation, interaction, and discovery while both compensating and protecting artists, songwriters, and the wider creative community.
Starting point is 01:59:21 The deal brings together Suno's best-in-class AI capabilities with Warner Music Group's artist development leadership and a bunch of accountants and expertise at the intersection of music and technology. The deal also settles previous litigation between the two companies. So the way I see it, you will now, if you have a free account, you'll not be able to download songs. that you create.
Starting point is 01:59:53 If you have a paid account, you will be able to download a number of songs, which is not yet determined, and you'll be able to pay for more downloads. Wait a minute. What? Yeah. So what they're doing,
Starting point is 02:00:10 these are the publishers, basically, Warner Music Group, really the publishers. They have gone to Suno and said, we're going to Suno you. We're going to sue your Suno. But if you give us, a cut of all your paying members, we won't sue you and we'll give you all of our catalog. So, oh, well, that's an interesting form of extortion because it actually makes some sense
Starting point is 02:00:36 if they give you the, if all these music guys give you all the catalogs and that that is the first of all, it's the end of the music business. So to protect themselves, they're asking for a piece of the action, knowing that this is going to happen anyway. yep surreptitiously because you do who's going to be able to figure it out because it's going to be in the corpus and god knows whether how you can dig it out of there you can't do it well well that this is actually my the point i was going to make this to me says they absolutely know what to identify in the corpus that it is all copied material duh but it is literally taken from recordings
Starting point is 02:01:13 and they have done this deal with warner and they say okay whenever someone creates a song we can tell exactly where the sax came from, where the piano came from, where this affects, what are all these different things? If lyrics are used, if it was a certain lyric, two lines or more, they know exactly what's in the corpus. Otherwise, Warner wouldn't go for it because they need their own internal reckoning because it's going to be universal music group next. They're all going to come in and do this.
Starting point is 02:01:41 So they have to be able to distinguish who owns what publishing, which by the way does Well, this is going to create a bogus analysis. It's going to be like... We'll see. I don't think they can... You know, at some point, it's like such an overhead of, oh, you know, we got kind of the baseline from a warner's, and we got some Sony stuff over here.
Starting point is 02:02:03 What about the mishmash of it? Well, you're going to have to give everybody a piece of this and that. Well, no, no. But the bottom line is, and maybe it'll be simpler than that. But artists, composers, and writers, and writers are getting nothing. This is publishing. This is not performance.
Starting point is 02:02:20 This is publishing. Right. So that's all to the people who own your publishing rights. ASCAP, it better get involved in this and get their writers. No, but ASCAP is performance. That ASCAP was for the writers. Performing Rights Organization. ASCab, BMI, CSAC, therefore the writers and composers when a song is performed.
Starting point is 02:02:44 yeah they get a cut yeah okay there's a little cut then you have the there's all kind and then we have sound exchange which came in now sound exchange uh if your song that you sang on and that's really about you singing on it mainly then you get like some tenth of a penny for every thousand streams that that's what spotify gives people but really all the money it's always been in publishing why did Michael Jackson buy the Beatles catalog for the publishing. And they killed him over it because it's very, very valuable. It's always about the publishing. The writers, composers, once you sign that record deal, buy, nobody makes money anymore
Starting point is 02:03:26 on that stuff, only with performing live and merch. Merch. Merch. Merch. Merch. Merch is, yeah, man, you buy a t-shirt at a concert. It's like 40 bucks. It's a jimp.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Well, and they sit there, say, well, this is a little. The merch is the only movie can make music. The concert's a jip, too. Let's face it. These things are a rip-off. When I was a kid. When is the last concert you went to? Led Zeppelin.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Led Zeppelin. No, no. That was, that went to many concerts after Led Zeppelin. I could probably figure it out, but I'm sure it was in a smaller venue. I wouldn't go to anything bigger than, I mean, the Fillmore Auditorium is not a small venue,
Starting point is 02:04:09 but it's not a call. I've never been to a ColiseM event. because I think it's stupid. You're not going to get good sound. What's the point? Unless you just want to try to meet somebody. I, like, for example, got to see the band Chicago at the Matrix, which is a nightclub. If you can imagine a band like that in a nightclub.
Starting point is 02:04:30 I saw Chicago and Earthwind and Fire with Tina in Austin, I want to say, maybe nine years ago. and they even perform songs together, that was dynamite. That was really good. Well, you have to imagine them in a night show. We saw Tony Bennett at one of his last performances in Austin at the Moody, which is a smaller venue indoors. And at one point, he puts down the mic and just sings acapella.
Starting point is 02:04:59 He was 87 years old. And he just filled the whole place. Good times, brother. That's not coming back. Good times. When I was a kid, we could see the Rolling Stones at CBGBs. It was great. I did see the Ramones at CBGBs.
Starting point is 02:05:20 I never saw the Ramones. I saw a lot of bands, though. But I haven't been to a concert. No, I'm not going to go to one. So what was the last one you saw? Probably the last one we used to go to the Venetian room. We would get to see Over the Hill guys. I got to watch Blue Rolls in a small venue at the Venetian.
Starting point is 02:05:38 room at the Fairmont, Lou Rawls. How about your buddy? Have you seen your buddy with the six-string, six-string bass? Who's got a six-string bass? Six-string guitar? Seven-string. No, who is it? McGuin. Yeah, McGuin. Yeah, we saw him. He played up in Port Angeles. It's interesting. He's like, you know, he is a friend because... He's great to watch.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Oh, he's got a terrific performance. We kept trying to talk him in and doing it on Broadway as a one-man show, but he... Totally good idea. I know. I thought. I thought so, too, but, you know, he's on a ship. Right now, I guarantee he's on a Coonard or something floating around. He has one of those GPS devices, and he'll send me a message from the GPS ping device. And it'll come. He's a total nerd.
Starting point is 02:06:23 Yeah, it'll come in as an email. And he's in his 80s now. But he's doing great on those cruises because this is smaller, upper class type cruises. And he won't do a, he won't do a concert on the cruise. He only does lectures. Well, I think he plays, too. I think he plays. Yeah, but he plays during his lecture because his lecture is punctuated by his playing.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Yeah. Now, McGuin is, he's awesome. He's, I love signing people. Roger McGuin and I, we email, you know, when he's on the ship. So he was over at the house before he gave his lecture concert in Port Angeles because besides the fact that we have to exchange dinners at houses to be friends. That's correct. That's correct. So he's over at the house because he has to have, this is a little sideline thing about guys like this.
Starting point is 02:07:08 he has to, before he does a concert when he played all his life, he has to have a New York steak dinner the night before he performs. Well, guys like him have that. So I cooked him, I personally cooked him a New York steak dinner. I told him, yeah, I'm not going to have any problem making this meal for him and his wife, but you've got to do me a favor
Starting point is 02:07:33 and bring the banjo and give us some material. Again, so he brought his banjo. Oh, man. And he's a terrific banjo player, which is unknown to most people. Yeah, yeah. Well, and it's... On we go, hey, when I was... Well, no, but you know what?
Starting point is 02:07:49 You know what? This is the thing... This is your Uncle Adam and Uncle John telling you some Thanksgiving stories about back in the day. And it was, by the way, a seven-string guitar. You're like, oh, Kerry, it's a 12-string. No, Roger McGuendo. No, no.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Very famous. Okay, I'll give you the history of this. So... Yes, he was a masterful impresario 12-string player for you guys in the chat room. This is the story. And at some point in his playing career, he determined that one of the strings, and he told me exactly why he did this, but one of the strings that was some screwball string with this crazy note, if you put it right down the middle of the guitar and put it in there
Starting point is 02:08:31 and played a, which made a seven-string guitar, and he had, I think, Gibson or somebody make a custom version for him, one of these companies, I don't know which one. And so he had this guitar made, and you can buy them. He says, it sounds exactly like a 12-string, because the whole sound of a 12-string is this one note that offsets the other notes, and he had some complex reason for it. But, no, it's a 7-string guitar. Sounds like a 12-string when you play it. And the last story then, because when he was in Austin, Tina and I went to go see him.
Starting point is 02:09:01 We go up to the Will Call desk. say, yeah, there's Roger left tickets for us. He said, hold on a second. And Roger comes out himself with the tickets. And he hangs out there. It's his concert. And he's out there. People like, Roger McGu's, what's Roger McGu?
Starting point is 02:09:18 And we're just like, hey, Adam, Tina, how you doing? Come on back. We'll go hang out over here. But he came out to the front to get us. He's such a lovely man. That's cute. He's a lovely man. For those who want to know Roger McGuin, listen to the birds, B-Y-R-D-S.
Starting point is 02:09:34 turn, turn, turn. Did you ever see The Grateful Dead while tripping on acid the troll room wants to know? I've seen The Grateful Dead quite a few times. You don't need to trip on acid for them. They did this trick that still gets people attracted. They would put, and I talked to one of the sound engineers about this, and I had this confirmed a couple of times. They had the ability with their way they play to create standing waves.
Starting point is 02:10:04 in the audience. Wow. That could kill you. And when they got later and later, this was also confirmed by Bob Heil when I talked to him. I didn't interview with him. Could you literally sit there with a SWR meter
Starting point is 02:10:16 and measure the standing wave ratio? Yeah, you could. If you had to wear with all, you could. So the later concerts, which is the ones they did before every, they probably still do them with some of these engineers. They had developed some gear. so the engineer, this is an engineer
Starting point is 02:10:34 told me this when I was doing my software hard talk radio show. He says, we could control where to put the standing wave with a knob. So you could move the standing way around. And you could see by the reaction of the people that got stuck in it.
Starting point is 02:10:52 No. You could, yes. You could tell where it was. You could give people an orgasm? It's pretty close to it. Wow. Oh, man. that's interesting.
Starting point is 02:11:05 I would love to know how that worked. I would just... Well, when you saw Jerry and Weir or the other last one of the two, they would look at each other and they would start playing a certain kind of way to get the standing note when they were doing it by hand before the engineers got a hold of the technology and it can move it around. Wow. And the standing wave is what attracted so many.
Starting point is 02:11:27 It got people addicted to the Grateful Dead. They became, you know, they're touring around with him because, and I've had this experience when the standing wave goes over you it's just the damnedest thing you've ever felt it's like wow man that this is a story you've never told me
Starting point is 02:11:45 I guess I haven't I've told the story before no not here not on the show no well yeah the standing wave of the Grateful Dead and the first time the thing is though it wasn't the first band who did this I think they just took it to the highest level there was a band that came before them in the 60s called this
Starting point is 02:12:03 was either the sons of Champlain or or one other group I can't remember which one is the one that had a 12 string in it and they used a 12 string in their band and they could do it they created standing waves but they weren't that they weren't like turning it into their their gimmick so the great thing perfected it apparently they called this the wall of sound which I always thought was Phil Spector's term?
Starting point is 02:12:30 Yeah, I think the wall of sound refers to Phil Specter's mostly. I never heard of the wall of sound being used for the dead. I just did a search for Grateful Dead standing waves that all comes up with Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound. Yeah, that could be. Maybe that's what they called it, but it's right. It's derivative. I would love to know how they did that.
Starting point is 02:12:52 That would be cool just to like, with people over at the house. I don't think you can do it in a closed environment. that small of an environment. I want to do it outside while I'm driving by. It's just zap people from the car. I don't know if you can. No? These things,
Starting point is 02:13:07 I first got into standing, the idea of standing a ways there was, Bose used to have a series of stereo stores all over the country. And they had a standing wave exhibit within the store usually. It was to point out that they didn't have these issues because it was a problem. And they had, and the way they showed it is they. They had a tube with a speaker on an end.
Starting point is 02:13:32 And then they had a bunch of these little white pellets, these little styrofoam pellets. And then they start playing sounds. And you can see the waves within the tube because it was clear. And then there would be, and then they'd do something that would happen. Boop! All of them went in one spot.
Starting point is 02:13:47 They all stood up. The pellets all stood up. Wow. And then it moved from one end to the other. And that's when I understood what it looked like. So basically it's a directed energy weapon. well it's not much of a weapon but yeah well it's a weapon to get sell tickets speaking of marketing weapon speaking of standing waves we want to thank uh the all our go-to guy
Starting point is 02:14:18 darron only no with geoffrey ria jeffre ria did this art he he finally was able to create a a white image although the hair was orange, the shirt was orange, the desk was orange, the antenna was orange, the little broadcast bits coming off the antenna were orange. That was the artwork
Starting point is 02:14:39 for episode 1819, our previous episode, we titled that flop 30 as a joke for cop 30. And this was selected because we talked about mesh-tastic, mesh-tastic, which I've gotten so many e-mails. over right now.
Starting point is 02:14:57 Like, dude, it's not worth it. It's a dog. It's no good. Don't even bother. You're only going to be disappointed. So I took that to heart. Let's see what other art. This is no agenda art generator.com where people can submit.
Starting point is 02:15:14 And thank you very much. I see a lot of turkey, a lot of Thanksgiving art for today's show. Let me see what else came in for the previous episode. Back to the Jeffrey Rhea piece, I would say, I'm no one to push this. You did. I was like, eh, you didn't like it. It was a cartoony, but you had to admit he did a decent job of getting the colors right. It was a gimmie.
Starting point is 02:15:41 A lot of people posting wine glasses half full to fill to the rim full, which apparently... Yeah, to prove you wrong. You're wrong, Curry. Yeah. Well, AI, it's right. Like, for example, here's the glass all full. and it says no agenda and has a full glass of wine
Starting point is 02:15:59 which is kind of to the brim there's a meniscus and then curry and divorce this is not going to be picked no you're just showing off a piece of a glass of wine is not a art
Starting point is 02:16:12 so anyway it's always it's always in the prompting it's always about the idea and no comics or blogger your butt still will not get chosen he's always posting butt artwork It's just, it's just a, and we're also not going to post Candice Owens with a gun, okay? I see that one.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Yeah, you did. She's with the beret. She's wearing a French beret. That's not happening. That's definitely not happening. Oh, man, so many people are going crazy about Candace Owens. I should also mention that for people, artists out there, you should know that you can't use famous people in promotional material that, that you don't pay them for.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Correct. And these, the show, album is promotional material. So we can't use necessarily. I mean, you can use the president, something that's the current events, but you can't necessarily use somebody
Starting point is 02:17:06 to promote your product without paying them. And I've heard Candace is rather litigious, so, yeah. Oh, yes, that's right. She is. And so you don't want to deal with it. Yeah, she's litigious. All right. Thank you very much, Jeffrey Ria,
Starting point is 02:17:20 for creating the artwork. We appreciate that. a valuable contribution. Of course, this is a value for value podcast. Excuse me. Which means that all we expect back from you is some value whenever you can bring it to us. Now, I believe we had some kind of here to this glitch during the last show and we were missing some paypals and maybe some maybe, I don't know, checks, whatever. So it seems like some of that may have carried over to today.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Is that a correct assumption? I believe that's probably true. However, interestingly enough, coming in as an executive producer, top executive producer, remember, we thank everybody $50 and above, $200 or more, you become an associate executive producer, real credit, you can use anywhere, you can even put it on IMDB.com, open your own profile there. $300 above, I will read your note, you become an executive producer. So once again, executive producer, two times in one month, which doesn't happen often, and with $2,666.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Suronymous of dog patch and lower Slobovia. Which is interesting that he came in again so quickly. Yeah. And he always has a thoughtful note, and we're going to read that. Thank you to all producers for contributing so much to this open source resource. Yes, still alive.
Starting point is 02:18:42 We were questioning that. We always are. And Caterpillar sales are doing fine thanks to rare earth and energy demands, plus a little rubbleizing. There's a riddle in there somewhere, John. Well, I'm the one who said he's probably a caterpillar salesman. Because what else, let me just put it this way. What else could possibly explain his constant world traveling,
Starting point is 02:19:09 especially through the out of the mid-east and all over the world, just now and everywhere, without, I mean, the only explanation. is he's a caterpillar salesman. And we're going to keep it at that from now on. A small expansion for my last note. John's comparison of the Mojave Desert to Sahel was misleading. Mojave is a desert. 54,000 square miles with portions in four U.S. states.
Starting point is 02:19:39 Sahel is semi-arid grasslands south of the Sahara, covering 1.2 million square miles larger than Alaska, Texas, in California combined, reaching 3,600 miles from the Atlantic to the Red Sea across 11 sovereign countries, most former French colonies, whose countries are the largest employer of Africa Corps, a focus on Chinese investment, and a region accounting for half of all terrorist deaths globally. The more you know, he says, thank you for this death update in the sand. Only a cat sales guy could come up with that.
Starting point is 02:20:16 You're right? Yeah, you would be. Thank you, Sironymous. We really appreciate you, of course. And I guess you get another peace prize. If he didn't already have one, you're getting one. Travis Gidre, Gidre in Fort Riley, Kansas, Fort Riley. A thousand dollars. Wow. Travis Gidry from Kansas. COVID, COVID criminal to very first Army reinstatement. So he was obviously in the Army got kicked out for not We're not taking the shot and got reinstated. First one.
Starting point is 02:20:51 And probably got some cash for it. Back pay, yes. This Instadameship is for my wife, Janine, Janine. Her name is actually Janine, long time listener. Strange last name, but you never know. She needs to be deduced. You've been deduished. And from now on, Shelby referred to
Starting point is 02:21:17 as Dame Janine of beat them until morale improves. So there's a lot of material in there that's, well, subtle. Thank you very much, Travis, and she's on the list. Anonymous in Bainbridge Island, Washington, also $1,000. I'll say wow again. ITM, this donation is a switcheroo. Ah, this is a posthumous knighthood for one of the best friends I could have ever asked for. It's always a little sad when we have one of those.
Starting point is 02:21:48 Let me just put it in. His name is Craig Philean. He fought long and hard and finally bit the bullet and succumbed to a very aggressive cancer bout only after his insurance refused to pay for his medication. Oh, brother. That insurance is great. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Also, a belated birthday to him as well, which was on the 25th of November. Happy birthday you were thought about often. Also, please add me to the list on November 27th. Anonymous, you're on. And now on a lighter note, your public service as podcasters is very much appreciated and undervalued.
Starting point is 02:22:24 On top of the archived episodes, the Binget.io are two of the greatest libraries of knowledge I've come across. People should know this. Binget.io, which is part of the ClipGenie Empire, is a phenomenal resource. You can just type anything in, it'll pop up, see which episode,
Starting point is 02:22:44 whether it's a clip, whether it's mentioned, or show notes. Thank you, Sir De Anonymous. That is a great valuable resource. And he winds up by saying, thank you so much. Anonymous from Bainbridge Island. Onward to Justine and Sloan
Starting point is 02:23:02 in Bozeman, Montana. And they're sending it a check and wrote a note. And I got it right here. As you can tell. ITM, John, and I'm thinking for the best podcast in the universe. May I please request.
Starting point is 02:23:16 Quest one. Karma for the Montana State Bobcat football team in their upcoming playoff run. Now, we at one time banned this sort of thing, but then we stopped banning it. So, okay, we'll give you that. It just doesn't help usually because karma is not for football, but, you know, we'll give it a shot. Happy birthday on November 28th to my smoking hot husband, Josh Palmer. You are the best dad, husband, friend, and man. we adore you love justine and sloane happy thanksgiving adam and john oh thank you so much and justine
Starting point is 02:23:53 has a really pretty writing uh she signed it uh i mean really pretty associate executive producer title for sir cow of lavenderblossoms dot com happy thanksgiving friends he says with two hundred and seventy two cents thanks for all you do to all humans out there. Gift someone this year with a lavender salve. These are outstanding products. Both John and I have used it. You'll score some points, I promise. And thanks to all our supporters. Sircal of, oh, it's lavender blossoms.org. I'm sorry. Sircal of lavender blossoms.org. And if you use the coupon code, ITM at checkout, you'll get some kind of deal. Thank you, Sircal. Lavenderblossoms.org. Do you have your pen?
Starting point is 02:24:43 uh yeah i don't i'm not seeing josh palmer on the birthday call out list because it was on this note it could have been missed uh and do you have the details josh that would be uh november 28th my spoken hot husband josh palmer uh josh palmer from justine no did no age okay got it you're he's on the list now all right you just did Yeah, I did the lavender blossoms. Okay, now I got this thing. Where I go. You have to be able to shorten these on the fly, man.
Starting point is 02:25:21 This is just too long. Yeah, well, it's not a matter of that. Well, anyways, Alexander. It is a night note. Alexander Django. And I have nothing but gibberish. Biargo, not Django, Biargo. It's B. It says B. B. Yargo.
Starting point is 02:25:39 Yeah, B. Yargo. Yeah. B. Yargo. Bargo Bargo Yes Bargo I agree I guess this is Spain Espania
Starting point is 02:25:47 But it's It's $250 Recently I asked for a donation And 33 people chipped in I asked for donations And 33 people chipped in I believe this value for value donation earns me
Starting point is 02:26:00 The honorary title of the Norwegian Knight E S Oh that Is that Estonia I thought ES was Spain. I thought it was too, but it could be Estonia. Okay.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Which would explain all the mess the rest of it is. And it sounds more like an Estonian name. Bargo? Yeah, like Bjork. Yeah. Yeah. One of my ancestors was in fact among the winter, was in fact, was in fact among the writers of the Norwegian constitution in 1814. Wow. When you finally broke free from Denmark, I have a deep, this has got to be Estonia, a deep love for my country and his culture regarding your recent discussion on Muslim immigrants, I believe you both underrate the impact they can have on Western society like ours. Take Draman, one of the Norway's largest cities. There are now 21 mosques and only five Jews is all part of the thing.
Starting point is 02:27:03 Only five churches. Well, that's a discrepancy. Yeah, there's your problem. Additionally, about 50% of the immigrants from countries like Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are on social welfare. Yes, this happens. Whose fault is this, by the way? You can't blame the Muslims. No.
Starting point is 02:27:18 On top of that, the Muslims are increasingly represented in local and national politics. Of course they are. Like the current Speaker of the Parliament, Masood, I can't pronounce his last name. Garakani. Garakani. The Muslims and the socialists are loving each other. dude it's your government bro it's your borders are open and your government is letting them in that's what you got to stop we don't have that problem currently no but it'll be back
Starting point is 02:27:47 after they impeached trump also consider that muslims breed much faster than the other norwegians well that's another issue yeah they say that today's rate Muslims will eventually be in the majority oslo the capital unbelievable uh considering that Norway's become a Christian, or been a Christian country for over a thousand years. Well, then don't just rest on your laurels. I mean, there's lots of things you can do. Finally, I have a theory why your listenership numbers might not be growing as quickly as they, as you deserve.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Because the listeners like me treating the show as a secret advantage. Yeah, well, this is probably true. Yeah. This is always, this has been a problem. Read it. Read it. Read it. he's we're treating the show like a secret advantage in deconstructing the news
Starting point is 02:28:39 faster than my peers the social and intellectual capital it gives me is priceless in other words it's a the show is becoming a cheat for people because you get when you which is what we the show is done for that purpose yeah to give you an advantage what's that worth it what process that's 250 dollars that's that's a good value for value yeah 250 bucks you know okay I want you to listen to this. Yeah. Anyway, that's from Alexander. Nice, Alexander.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Hey, then we have a buddy of mine, Barry from Pod Home, Barry from Breda in the Netherlands, $250. She says, in the morning, gents, and thank you for your courage. For Black, oh, it's a promo. For Black Friday, we at Podhome.fm are giving away six months of free podcast hosting
Starting point is 02:29:28 for new customers. This is a good, he's, and even when you pay, he's very, very, I don't want to say cheap, but it's cost effective. And here we goes. Podhome.com is the most modern, intelligent podcast hosting platform. I believe this to be true. We offer unlimited podcast hosting, use of Pod Home AI to generate transcripts, chapters, show, notes, and bore, your own podcast website, and listener donation page, embeddable player, automation with Zapier,
Starting point is 02:29:58 and our API and modern podcast features, including transcripts, chapters, clips, live podcast, and more. And Barry will come over there and kiss your butt if you join up. Go to podhome.fm. Use code Black Friday. That's one word to get started with your first six months free. After that, $15.99 a month or $185 per year for unlimited podcasting. Barry's a good deal and he's a good guy.
Starting point is 02:30:26 Now, what is this again? He is a podcast hosting company? Yes, a modern podcast host. company with all of the cool features and very cost effective. Is it any good? It's very good. I've used it. It's very good.
Starting point is 02:30:42 So this is something Mimi should be using for her local podcast at Port Angeles. I think I recommended it to her. I said podhome dot FM because you just you throw your MP3 file in there. It does chapters, transcripts, show notes, all automatic. It would be great
Starting point is 02:30:58 for us. But you know, we're kind of stuck in our infrastructure. But Our infrastructure is great. And also, I don't know if Barry would be very happy with the amount of traffic that we consume twice a week. That might, uh, no, you'd go now. It would break him. It would break it.
Starting point is 02:31:17 It would raise the price for everybody. So we don't want to do that. Yeah. We have, we pay big dough to keep the bandwidth up. We do. And we have a specialist who does the job in the back game. Void zero, the one and only. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:30 And it gets paid on time. Okay. Alan Hutchcraft in Mary, Maysville, Maryland, 250. He has a note. It consists of two sheets and he's handwritten it. Oh, goodness. It's actually not bad. He prints.
Starting point is 02:31:49 It's not longhand. In the morning, John and Adam, as I'm about to complete my 50th approved trip around the sun, November 29th, he's on the list, I'm sure. It is time for me to quit being a douchebag and, Donate. I was hitting a mouth seven years ago, but one of my best friends, by the way, he donated 250, Gavin Lent, who is also a douchebag. It only took a few minutes of listening to the best podcast in the universe that realized he was on to something great.
Starting point is 02:32:26 I've hit several people in the mouth, but I want to call out my coworker and fellow assistant principal, Jason Lent. as a douchebag. Doofsbag. Hopefully he and Gavin will see the light and donate. Wow. During the season of Thanksgiving, I want to thank both.
Starting point is 02:32:45 By the way, let's give Alan here a deduishing right off the top. You've been deduished. During this season of Thanksgiving, I want to thank both of you for your, for working on Thanksgiving. Oh, no, you know, he says, for your amygdala shrinking work each Thursday and Sunday as our scheduled district faces fine school district school I'm sorry school
Starting point is 02:33:12 wow you can see where I got a D in that don't you uh school school district faces financial challenges I would ask for a job's karma for those of us wanting to continue serving our students and community thank you for your attention to this matter All righty You've got Karma I just realized I forgot to give out a jobs
Starting point is 02:33:37 Karma for the note earlier Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs You've got karma Now we come to 233.33 Little John's candies from Somerset, California
Starting point is 02:33:52 with a note that is too long But I will see what I can do here In the morning, John and Adam Hopefully you've both been to your peel box recently and found a package from us. I did not see a package yet. Did you see? I have a package.
Starting point is 02:34:05 I got the package. Inside. And it includes some, it includes some olive oil and it includes some. Well, I'll read it here. Inside, you will find our world famous English toffee and our chocolate turkeys. Okay, stop.
Starting point is 02:34:19 The chocolate turkey is a work of art. I'm going to have to go to the PO box before we go to our dinner. The chocolate turkey is a work of art. I don't know what to. how they got this mold. It's very detailed. It's unbelievable. It also includes a bottle of wine from one of our fellow small businesses here in Amder County, driven sellers and a bottle of olive oil from another local small business, slow 220. I thought you might enjoy these for your Thanksgiving holiday.
Starting point is 02:34:47 Being from a family of small business owners, I often think of value, and you guys certainly deliver real value. I think of how I can ensure that the people in my community are directly affected by my business. The most impactful way for me to do that is for Little Johns to spend its money with other local small businesses, whether it's a box or a bag, almonds or butter, or any of the other basic nuts and bolts that you need to run a business, we shop small. My father always taught me that when we spent money with another small business, it grew the community and enabled the community to spend money with us. True. And that's why I should spend money on your podcasters to help podcasting grow.
Starting point is 02:35:27 At Little John's candies, we've been making candy exactly the same way for over 100 years while staying true to that small local business model. Our business model was built over 100 years ago. With no advertising dollars into the budget, we simply didn't build discounts into our margins to drive sales. Our prices have always been based on value. That doesn't mean we're the best price on the market, but we've always been a fair price. I think you're best price. We've always prided ourselves on the idea that we charge the same price to everyone and rarely provide discounts.
Starting point is 02:35:55 I share this because I want to show my appreciation for the value you give by offering you in this community a little extra value from us. 10% off your order. There's a discount. Any time between now and Christmas and if you buy our world famous English toffee, we'll donate 10% of that to the No Agenda Show in your name. Our world famous toffee is made with simple ingredients, butter, sugar, almonds, and chocolate has been shipped all over the world.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Families have built traditions are giving, receiving, and sharing it. the holidays. We pride ourselves and still making our to coffee fresh and cook to perfection. Use code ITM 10 plus 10 that's PLUS at checkout. No jingles because I had too long of a note and thank you for your courage. Christopher
Starting point is 02:36:39 and the little John little John's elves. P.S. did I mention we offer gift wrap at nox to charge? Now who does that? Wow. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. I sorry. We went to that must have just come in because we
Starting point is 02:36:55 went to the Pia box earlier, but didn't see it. Do you have a post office box locally? You have to drive all the way to Austin. No, no, it's here locally. Oh, okay. The Fredericksburg Post Office, baby. Barbara Camp comes in from Granger, Indiana, 223, and she has a note that is impossible to read.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Yeah. She has a birthday coming up, and she's got a birthday call off for someone, somebody, she's calling out a birthday for someone who's going to be a hundred years old wow so this is the kind of broad range of demo that we've on our show yeah zeds to a hundred zeds to centennials uh so she she okay here's i'm going to explain what happened here i have the note in front of me it's impossible to read it's impossible to read she has good handwriting but she's she's 71 and that this i have to assume that she's when she's
Starting point is 02:37:55 learned her handwriting skills and this is longhand this is not printed she uh she's got a great hand but she's using a light ink which makes it tough even though the copy is a little better looking than the paper itself uh but everything is jammed together so tight it makes it very difficult to read aloud it's readable and so she says starts off with hell oh no i'm sorry it says well So she's using a W from, uh, let's like French. The French have a weird pen. Uh, well, finally a moment to, uh, write a note and tell you and. Adam.
Starting point is 02:38:40 Adam. Thanks. Yes, help me out here. Thanks. I believe I started listening to the no agenda about, uh, the time Adam was returning from some trip. yeah his travel logs are always amusing and they're particularly that particular day exceptional the TSA has I agree with this by the way I can do this I can do this the TSA has a way of making his flying days exceptional LOL from that day on I was hooked my son-in-law Seth had been listening for years and knew
Starting point is 02:39:23 the king and I would jump right on board, the king and I. And no, we have, and so we have for years and especially appreciated the COVID madness. Can't insert it something. You two kept the king and I sane. The king and I, but the king has gone in another something festing adventure. long festering, long festering. And so I'm home alone. Ah, somebody go keep her company.
Starting point is 02:40:01 There's nothing better in my mind than to see a lettuce and a lettuce, a letter. A letter. Then to pen a letter and send in a donation. I got you. And since my mother is due, my mother is due to be 100 November 28th, I wanted you and Adam to wish her happy. I wish her a happy one for me. My mother,
Starting point is 02:40:28 Alberta. Yeah. Chugs along. Was she drinking chardonnay? Chugs along and for the most part does well mentally. Current events stump her. But events of the past come to mind of 10. My brother and I learn new things all the time.
Starting point is 02:40:56 Since 100 seems like a measly amount, I'll add on a bit more. I turned 71 the 25th of November. Congratulations. My daughter, Rachel, was 35 May 2nd, and my granddaughter, Edith Edie, is 17 months. Four generations comes to a grand total of $223. we are all flyover girls fly girls or shall i say good mediterranean stock uh hopefully the enclosed i'm surprised we're even trying to get through this my mom used to write like this so this is why she oh okay uh hopefully the enclosed donation will fill up your bank account some too thank you
Starting point is 02:41:45 uh mom the king and i uh happy thanks Thanksgiving to. Truly, Barbara Kemp. P.S. The jam is from my kitchen. But she's got a ball of jam. The fruit crop was perfect this year. Wow. Thank you for the note. I appreciate that. That's really beautiful. Happy birthday to Alberta. 100 years. Yeah. Wow. Wow is right. That's a big deal. Very few people can accomplish that feat. Yes. You're up. I just read an entire note. All right, Beth.
Starting point is 02:42:19 Dush. Dush. Beth Elliott in Corytown, Tennessee. Oops, another note. This is from page seven. Let's see if we can. Oh, it says ITM, gents. I can read this.
Starting point is 02:42:33 Beth, 22. You're cheating again. I'm going to read it. ITM Jets. Congratulations. Thank you for your courage. Yours truly, Beth, A.K.A. Beth.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Thank you, Beth. Thank you, Beth. Bay, Beth. And, Beth. There's Eli the coffee guy with $211.27, $200 plus today's date, 1127. He's from Bensonville, Illinois. I am enjoying his product as we speak. He says, with the turkey on the table and Thanksgiving entering the rear view,
Starting point is 02:43:03 the season of America consumerism and year-end retrospectives is in full swing. We've got John and the No Agenda Show. One of my, Chopped Liver? Yeah. We got John, John, and the No Agenda Show to thank for reminding us where the holiday even came from. Oh, that's true. As a producer, I'm grateful for you, too, and your dedication showing up, even on the holidays. And while we're on gratitude, I'm thankful for all producers out there who start their morning with Gigawatt.
Starting point is 02:43:30 Quick heads up. If you miss the early access email, no worries. Our cans are officially available to everyone, and we're kicking off a sitewide Black Friday sale through Monday. So visit gigawatt Coffeeroasters.com and treat yourself or someone else to the gift of good coffee. stay caffeinated says Eli the coffee guy thank you Eli I love the cold bruise although here's here's a tip I have because it says shake vigorously for it to release the nitro yeah so when you do that you want to grab like a Kleenex or something before you open it because yeah that's with all nitro stuff yeah because it sprays sprays yeah so
Starting point is 02:44:12 just open it with a Kleenex and and then toss that away it's good You can use a napkin. Napkin is, yes, that's appropriate. I want to just interim here. Thanks, Sir Benjamin Ritkers. And also some other person sent one of these. I got two of those flags I've been wanting to get free. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 02:44:36 The pirate, the straw hat, pirate guy. The anime. Stolen crossbones. Yeah, I got two of these flags. The one piece. The one-piece flag. China, by the way. Yeah, the one-piece flag. They're made in China, which I thought was ironic.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Yeah. But, so I want to thank them for the flags. So I have flags hanging now. I look like a protester. You don't even have a flagpole, man. I don't have a flagpole, and I'm glad. Matthew Martel, our buddy in Broomall, Pennsylvania. The spats, 21060.
Starting point is 02:45:13 The spats between Adam and JCD. are akin to Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler. That's a callback that I get, Adam doesn't get, very few people will get. It's an op, everybody. Visit martelhardware.com. Use coupon code rage bait for an additional 10% off your order. Happy Thanksgiving, JCD Hot Pockets is what he wants to hear. Hot Pockets.
Starting point is 02:45:43 And coming in with $209, Dame Patricia Worthington from Merced, Merced, Merced, Merced, Merced, Merced, California, handwritten note. Do you add a Majana? It says Dame Patricia. Now, Worthington is the one, she, Dame Patricia Worthington is in Florida. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:46:00 This is just Dame Patricia. I'm so sorry. Thank you for the correction. And she has a birthday, November 29th. Is that on the list? Can you check that for me? Let me just see. Is she on, yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:11 Yeah, she got, when Jay puts it on the note at the top of the list. Yeah, it's there. Here's her note, which I can read, thanks to my mom. Dear John Adam, I have been a loyal listener since the dark days of 2020. Thank you for illuminating, thank you for your illuminating commentaries. Please wish my daughter, Emily Mitchell, a happy birthday, November 29th. Another follower of your show in Uriah, California. Ucaia, California.
Starting point is 02:46:43 Now let's plug my son's business. business. Okay. Brian Lewis's surface painting and wallpapering featuring Italian plastering and specialty finishes in Atascadero, San Luis Obispo County, California. San Luis. Oh, I saw San Luis. Okay, San Luis Obispo. Text Brian. Text him right now. Everybody, text Brian. It's all text Brian. 805-470-9917. You can and rewind that to hear it again. So he knows you're a real person and not Yelp or Google
Starting point is 02:47:20 trying to sell some advertising space. Now he's going to get spammed by ITMs from every rando that listens to the show. Claim your no agenda discount. That's right. May God bless you and keep you well, Dame Patricia, with practically perfect penmanship. God bless you too, Dave, Patricia.
Starting point is 02:47:39 Thank you very much. Not that. I loved it. I loved it. But I will say this, doing Italian plastering is a big deal. Yes. So this guy's probably really good. All right, onward.
Starting point is 02:47:51 Linda Lou Packen, there she is in Lakewood, Colorado of $200 bucks. Jobs Karma for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersink.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers, Inc. with a K and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You stop. How much.
Starting point is 02:48:21 I believe that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1820. Our Thanksgiving special episode was so happy that everyone supported us. And I'd like that we were able to take a little extra time to read some of these handwritten notes. It is highly appreciated, if only for John and I. Again, we'll thank the rest of our donors $50 and above coming up pretty soon because I do have to get out of here on time and we're running long thanks to those notes. So go to no agenda donations.com. It's value for value. Whatever you get out of the show, stick it right back in. Noagendadonations.com. Congrats to the executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth.
Starting point is 02:49:10 I have one. Shut up, Slave. Shut up Slave. I have one presentation on the sex scandal going on in the Army, which I think is disgusting. Sex scandal. I have random clips. This is an A-block type thing. You left that for the D-block?
Starting point is 02:49:37 Yeah, well, I could have played it earlier, but I think it was. so much more important that we discuss the the what the uh don't abandon the ship or whatever yeah yeah the seditious six i got you all right okay so set us up what is this about well it sets itself up it's self-explanatory but this isn't getting a lot of play i don't know why but it's another maybe it's because everyone's on vacation they don't want to cover anything don't want to work i want to work nobody wants to work and so here we go the The PBS apparently does want to work, and so they gave us this report as dynamite.
Starting point is 02:50:13 This week, the U.S. Army has been reckoning with a sexual abuse scandal that could involve the largest number of allegations in its history. An Army doctor is accused of abusing women who were under his care. Here's on a novice. The Army has sent out approximately 2,500 patient notification letters to women examined by one doctor within its ranks. It's part of a massive investigation into cases of alleged sexual abuse. of 47-year-old doctor and army major Blaine McGraw. He's an OBGYN at Fort Hood in Texas and before that at an army base in Hawaii. Approximately 80 women have filed a legal complaint against him. One case alleges that McGraw, quote, used his position of trust to sexually exploit, manipulate, and secretly record women under his care. Joining us now is attorney Andrew Cobos, representing 70 alleged victims of Dr. McGraw. Cobos is a West Point graduate who served in
Starting point is 02:51:09 in the U.S. Army, including at Fort Hood. Andrew, welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us. By to be here. So just start by telling us about these women that you're representing. Who are they? Are they active duty? Are they military spouses? And what exactly are they alleging was done to them by this doctor? The majority of the women that we represent are military spouses. And they span all four branches of the military, Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine. Now, this abuse happened both at Fort Hood and in Hawaii at Tripler Army Medical Center. And there were hundreds, if not thousands of women under Dr. McGraw's care. And he violated them in multiple ways. He took photographs and videos of them as they were in their most vulnerable position in his exam room. He touched them in improper ways
Starting point is 02:51:58 that were medically unnecessary. And on occasion, he induced birth without their consent, without their knowledge and without notification to their family that they were going to give birth. And so this is, as I've been describing it, one of the most, one of the largest and most significant sexual assault cases in the history of the military. Holy crap. Yeah, you haven't even heard of it, have you? No, what kind of creep is this guy? This is like the, like the soccer coach.
Starting point is 02:52:26 No, the Olympic guy. Yeah, whatever. Like so many doctors. I mean, sorry, doctors, but so it's a lot of. There are doctors out there that are up to no good. You know what it is because he's talking to his chatbot all day. All right, I'm going to just get this wrapped. And one of the complaints filed by Jane Doe, obviously her identity is protected.
Starting point is 02:52:46 She talked about invasive breast and vaginal exams that were unnecessary, not being given a medical gown to wear during those examinations. And then, as you mentioned, secretly being recorded on a phone that Dr. McGraw kept in his jacket pocket. How did your clients come to learn about? those photos and videos. Fortunately, one of the women that we represent had her husband in the examination room. Now, this is not a common occurrence. It was actually a rare occurrence for Dr. McGraw to have anybody to allow anybody in the exam room while he was working on these patients. And the husband of his patient was behind Dr. McGraw. He leaned in while he was doing a pelvic examination
Starting point is 02:53:26 and his phone in his lab cook tipped forward. The husband was able to visually see that the phone was on record, and immediately he was concerned about his wife, about her in this position. And so he tried notifying the chain of command. He called CID. Fortunately, CID started an investigation, and he experienced a lot of frustration, trying to bring his complaints and trying to bring awareness to the military that this doctor was unlawfully and improperly recording his patients. And so ultimately, CID got involved in investigation. was undertaken, and they found large numbers of videos and photographs on his phone. CID, of course, is the Criminal Investigative Division of the Army. The Army did provide us
Starting point is 02:54:13 with a statement, which I want to read to you in part here. They said they're committed to supporting patients affected by the allegations. They've swiftly established a call center assigned to special victims' counsel or actively notifying patients, and they say they've created a patient support line as well. They're encouraging people with information to come forward. I'm hoping that we, in these next two clips, we get to how many, how many women he's done this to or something? Well, they did say 86 are on his list. Oh, okay. And the over 1,200 women have been sent letters, so we know it could be over 1,000 easily.
Starting point is 02:54:46 Oh, man. And the thing about it is the next clips are the part that are disgusting, which is the women who had these issues. They tell somebody about it right away, and they're, whatever. And so nobody cares. nobody does anything until the male that catches the guy who's an obvious idiot since he's got the camera recording with his, you know, as his wife is being examined, and he catches this and it starts and he still has to struggle. This is the last clips. I'll explain this. But as you mentioned, Andrew, before Fort Hood, Dr. McGraw was posted in Hawaii. They tell us
Starting point is 02:55:23 in a statement that they're in the process of notifying Dr. McGraw's patients. You told my colleague that you spoke to nurses at that Hawaii Medical Center. What did you hear from them? When I spoke to the nurses at Tripler Army Medical Center, what they said is that it was common knowledge around Tripler that there were allegations against Dr. McGraw of videotaping and recording his patients, so much so that it was a standing joke among the folks at Tripler
Starting point is 02:55:50 that Dr. McGraw always got the crazy patients. And that is what I've heard. We are working to establish in greater deep. retail the investigation that was conducted over McGraw at Tripler Medical Center. We know that there was an investigation, but so far we haven't heard from the Army. And that's left a lot of people wondering, how long did the Army know? What did they know? And why didn't they take proactive measures to address these situations? So you know that there was a complaint at the Hawaii Medical Center before he was transferred to Fort Hood. I know some of your clients said they complained about
Starting point is 02:56:25 this doctor and those complaints went nowhere. Really, we have a couple different issues there. One is that complaints were going unrecognized. I have clients who, after visiting McGrath, stepped outside into the hospital, and they talked to the on-duty nurse. They talked to the sergeant who was at the desk in tears. One of my clients tells me she was in tears and she talked for 10 minutes and she said, he violated me. And she was given a telephone number and said, I can't take a report, call this number. And she called the number time after time after time, And she got hung up on. She got put on hold.
Starting point is 02:57:00 She was unable to actually make the report. And this is one of the common complaints. Well, this is depressing for Thanksgiving. I like to go out on a high note. So yes, and this is a classic example. I've noticed this with other government agencies. They give you a phone number. There's nobody there at the other end.
Starting point is 02:57:20 They hang up or they, or hold on a second, click. It's just, it's horrible. and this is inexcusable. And the thing that bothers me the most is nobody will hang for this. No? The doctor will get a slap on their wrist, though maybe, you know, maybe he even goes to prison, but all the other people are responsible.
Starting point is 02:57:42 The people who didn't take the reports, the people didn't take it seriously, the phony bologna phone number you're supposed to call and nobody answers. Nobody will get any reprimands or anything. because that's, which is what this stuff continues to happen because of that, allowing, you know, just allowing people to slide. I realize there are a lot of questions still unanswered here, Andrew, but what does justice look like? What's the accountability your clients are seeking?
Starting point is 02:58:11 There are multiple ways that justice should occur and accountability should occur in this situation. The first and most obvious way is to hold the perpetrator responsible for his actions. but McGraw is also accountable to my clients, who he victimized. But more than that, the Army is accountable, and they should be held responsible for what they did not do in this situation. My clients are ultimately filing a federal tort Claims Act lawsuit against the Army, and they're seeking restitution for the damages and the harms that they suffered at the hands of an Army employee who should have been removed from that position.
Starting point is 02:58:50 And the unfortunate thing is that this is a pattern that happens. in the Army, and quite frankly, happens in all of the military services. And if you just want to go back to the Vanessa Guillen incident in 2020 and look at what the fallout was from that incident, a 272-page report addressing the shortcomings of the Army, and it happens again and again and again. And I think that that is what accountability looks like. It looks like reforming the system, not just paying it lip service, but actually going in and figuring out how do we address the problem of sexual assault in the military.
Starting point is 02:59:24 And that is a good starting point to address the problems that these victims faced and what accountability looks like in the Army. Well. Yeah. And we can also go to look at James Comer. The whole thing is the Republicans. It's everybody. It's a bureaucracy. They never, there's no accountability.
Starting point is 02:59:43 Nobody ever gets reprimanded or punished. This is what this is. It just continues on. And who pays the bill for this? The taxpayers, you're paying for this, for these issues because they're going to get sued. Army's going to have to pay a big fine and the military budget has to go up. Here's what I recommend, everybody. Call the suits.com.
Starting point is 03:00:04 Call a guy who knows the ropes. Rob the constitutional lawyer. He'll get you millions. Yeah, well, you can do that if you want, but it's still going to cost the taxpayers money. Yeah, okay. Well, you could have done two clips, honestly. I thought it was good. Eight minutes.
Starting point is 03:00:26 There you go again. Eight minutes of that. You would have said the same thing if I did it. You just said, yeah, it was okay. But I would have after the show. Oh. All right. I'll end us on a high note.
Starting point is 03:00:42 Ready? Campbell's. This morning, Campbell's Soup is denying claims about its products, allegedly made by an executive in a recorded conversation. The person in the recording is also heard belittling. customers during an expletive-filled rant. We have a . Who buys our . I don't buy...
Starting point is 03:01:01 This is unlistenable this little bit, but I left it in. Because he's basically saying, I don't eat that crap. Why does anyone buy that crap? I don't eat our bioengineered chicken. He's an executive, and he's also talking about the thing I hope you have it in there, is the, is the, what is it, the 3D printed chicken is in the chicken noodle soup? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he says. I won't eat 3D printed chicken.
Starting point is 03:01:24 The recording is a bad thing anymore. It's healthy. Now that I don't know what the f*** in it. I don't want to eat a bioengineered meat. I don't want to eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer. The recording is allegedly from a conversation that's now part of a lawsuit filed by Robert Garza, a cybersecurity analyst for Campbell's, who claims he was fired after reporting the alleged remarks, which he says also included racist comments about company employees.
Starting point is 03:01:48 Garza claims Campbell executive Martin Bally made those comments. after the two met to discuss Garza's salary. In a statement, Garza's attorney saying, this situation has been very hard on Robert. He thought Campbell's would be thankful that he reported Martin's behavior. But instead, he was abruptly fired. Campbell's responding, saying,
Starting point is 03:02:05 if the comments were in fact made, they are unacceptable. They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company. And going on to say, the comments heard on the recording about our food are not only inaccurate. They are patently absurd.
Starting point is 03:02:16 Nothing melts away the cold like a delicious hot bowl of Campbell's soup. Campbell saying, the chicken meat used in our soups comes from long-trusted USDA-approved U.S. suppliers and meats are high-quality standards. And the company noting, Bally worked in IT and had nothing to do with food production. Bally is on leave pending a company investigation. In the meantime, the Attorney General in Florida, a state that bans lab-grown meat, says his office is now investigating Campbell's products. I guarantee you it's lab-grown meat. You know it. Oh, it's USDA-approved products.
Starting point is 03:02:50 Oh, okay. Who knows what's in there if it's USDA approved. It sounds believable. How is this an upbeat note? Well, because nobody in their right mind eats Campbell's soup. Yeah, but that's not upbeat. You're slamming the company. And it's just a negative story.
Starting point is 03:03:11 I thought you had something funny. Well, do a talk clip then. Oh, no, the TikTok clip's not funny either. I have something. I do have something that's got a, be kind of funny. Well, oh. I don't sound like you.
Starting point is 03:03:27 No, it's more like... Well, let's do this. This is, let's play the weather report because everyone's traveling right now and there's a Thanksgiving cold blast. Okay, that'll do it. On this day before Thanksgiving, a major winter storm and a plunge in temperatures is wreaking havoc with many travelers' schedules. Flight delays are piling up. And as John Yang reports, temperatures will drop to 20 degrees below normal in much of the central
Starting point is 03:03:52 and eastern parts of the country. Climate change is real. I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, oh, no agenda in the morning. Yes, we're our segways, and we have a few people to think. Over $50, not as many as I thought, but quite a few,
Starting point is 03:04:16 and Adam will read them off one at a time. Talia Dupree is in McKinney, Texas, not too far from here, $150. And she is also asking to be on the birthday list. Is she on the birthday list? Is a good question? No, she's not. Jay. Talia.
Starting point is 03:04:36 Talia, what's her last name? Dupree, 42. Okay. Talia Dupree, 42 on the 28th. We got you. Just in time. Dame Rita, Sparks Nevada, 133.33.33. And she did add a little note, which I will share, because she's always donating.
Starting point is 03:04:57 A witness several young adults buying Costco's ready-made mac and cheese for their potluck Thanksgiving gathering. The show's mac and cheese jingle came to mind. Yes, we've been predicting this for 18 years. Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire, 12, 3, 4, 5. Thank you. Robin Tolbert, Topeka, Kansas, 103.33, message received. William Galt in Naples, Florida, 100. Anonymous from San Francisco, Anon, I should say, 100. Frank Maliani, Malinari, from Bolverdi, Texas, $100.
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Starting point is 03:12:41 You want to be where you won't be. Triggered all hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. So before we get to John's tip of the day, which, of course, is a great way to end any show. It will not be the Knives tip today. I'm reliably informed, but that is coming.
Starting point is 03:13:07 It may be a Thanksgiving tip. We always like to, it's not. Not really. We always like to do a little test here of what we will end the show with. I'm not sure. Before you do that, I have to correct an error so I don't get letters or notes and it should have been done by the chat room. ES is the top-level domain for Spain, so our Norwegian knight as a Spanish ISP.
Starting point is 03:13:34 E-E is for Estonia. Oh, okay. Now, the trolls are doing nothing today. No, they're not helping. No, they could. We try to make these corrections during the show so you don't get notes from people. You guys don't know what you're talking about. All right, here's my end of show ISO candidates.
Starting point is 03:13:54 Thank you for that. Hmm? Oh my God. Yeah. Or this one. Flu season is back open. Woohoo! And the final, I went to the well.
Starting point is 03:14:06 This is so good. Top that. Actually, I do like that one a bit. I do have two. Both of mine are better. Oh. So what are they called? I don't have them in front of me.
Starting point is 03:14:22 Stick. You have them there. And dad gum. Yeah, dad gum. Play dad gum. Dadgum it. They hit it out of the park again. I know that guy from somewhere. I'm not sure. He's right to the point.
Starting point is 03:14:35 Yeah. And then this was probably too long, but I like it. The show could not be any better if it was put on a stick and deep fat fried. No, no. You're doing too much. You got to, no. I think it's between... Dadgummit, they hit it out of the park again. And this one. so good. Well, since I'm winning all the time,
Starting point is 03:15:03 I want to use the Alex Jones one. Okay, we'll do that. And now, before we go, it is time for John's tip of the day. Green advice for you and me, just the tip with JCD. And sometimes at all. I'm going back to the well,
Starting point is 03:15:20 and I realize I never pushed this one hot sauce, which would be good on turkey, I will say. And I use it all the time. It's like, I have a longstanding relationship with different hot sauces. I have this, you know, I always think one of the greatest sauces ever made is Tabasco sauce, the brand. And the way they make, it's made with these special peppers. And then we've had Melinda's.
Starting point is 03:15:45 I promoted that on the show before. And I always like crystal, too, which is a very nice sauce. But I've replaced the crystal with actually an incredibly mild hot sauce. It's really mild. And it's called Franks Red Hot. Franks Red Hot. Franks Red Hot is a sauce has been around forever. I only discovered it about a decade ago.
Starting point is 03:16:08 And I feel kind of bad about it because I always looked at it as some sort of a cheap, sleazy, like useless hot sauce. Maybe it's because I'm getting older. And my palate like stuff like this. It's a, I think it only has 450 Scovilles. It's not that hot. And by the way, Franks is the base for,
Starting point is 03:16:26 buffalo chicken wings sauce or what you toss the buffalo chicken wings in and for all practical purposes buffalo chicken wing sauce is nothing more than half frank's hot sauce or the red hot to call it franks hot sauce and and butter half butter half this sauce you've got the chicken wing sauce you can put some worcester shower in there if you want to but that's essentially it this stuff you can just douse things with it it's almost as could be a soup You just put it on everything And I think it's got one of the best Flavor profiles of any
Starting point is 03:17:02 Just brando condiment It's delicious And it would be good on turkey You could even put it on your corn flakes No, I'm just a thought I don't know about that That's a good, this is a funny idea There it is everybody
Starting point is 03:17:17 Yeah, I'm sorry I'm sorry, it's a terrific product That is, of course it's a terrific product Because it is one of John's tips of the day Created Fies for you and me Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam
Starting point is 03:17:33 Created by the Angey Get the original Well I hope everybody enjoyed the shop The shop today We are doing real work Unlike MS Now Who for the past hour and a half I've had
Starting point is 03:17:47 Nicole Wallace With headphones on sitting there Because you know she'd think Oh yeah we got to have other podcasters on my podcast. She's doing a podcast on MS Now with the whole crew from the Midas Touch podcast. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's the level you get.
Starting point is 03:18:06 But not here, not on the no agenda show. No, no, no. In fact, we'll even end it with some end-of-show mixes. We've got MVP checking in twice and Danny Luce is back. MVP, sandwiching in Danny Luce. And we will return on Sunday for more excitement here on. the No Agenda Show. Please join us, and I am coming to you today from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
Starting point is 03:18:32 in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where we wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. Have a good meal tonight. I'm John C. DeVorek. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Thank you for being a producer of the best podcast in the universe. We really appreciate you.
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Starting point is 03:19:10 Boomer and boomer adjacent two guys on the air. One in the valley, one way down there. Menlo, the buzzkill, says, don't trust your head. That's what he said. Then you got Castor, the man they called Crackpot, a transplanted Texan fired up, giving all that he's got. 18 long years, a tradition's so strong, they dissect the M5M and show where it's wrong. It's no agenda.
Starting point is 03:19:42 Every Thursday and Sunday, oh, oh, three whole hours to brighten your Monday day. From the Podfather, Castor to write our Mendel's latest word. construct the news the real truth is heard they might not agree but they're a catar repair the bus kill and the crackpot taking you there oh oh agenda put it in your feet yeah no agenda exactly what you need that's a bunch of BS Charlie I believe I believe
Starting point is 03:20:32 I believe in the right to eat Unfortunately my family does not agree No mouths but their own do they feed They can't stand it When other people eat to destroy millions of families at the same time these fascist bastards
Starting point is 03:21:04 murdered more than 100 million lives I believe in the right to eat unfortunately my family does not agree no males but their own do they feed they can't stand it when other people leave the west wing
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