No Agenda - 1821 - "Genesis"

Starting point is 00:00:00 The cell phone is the Satan's tool. Adam Curry, John C. DeVoreh. It's Sunday, November 30th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1821. This is no agenda. We are not stupid, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're expecting the blue wave of doom.

Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm John C. DeMorak. It's crackpot and buskill in the morning. Yeah, yeah, because we know that all their ops are working really well. The blue wave of doom. Is that a Democrat thing? Well, blue wave is not the doom part. I added that. The way I would see it is the blue wave of, blue wave would be doom.

Starting point is 00:00:53 Doom, I tell you. Doom. Doom. Hey, how was your Thanksgiving? How was your Thanksgiving? It's good. Okay, did you actually celebrate yet? Yeah, no, we ate.

Starting point is 00:01:03 Everyone's eating their foods. I got a nice small nine-pound bird, smoked it in the master-built. Master-bilt? Yeah, the smoker. It's one of the tips of the day. Oh, your master-built? Well, you should have given that before Thanksgiving. I'm sorry?

Starting point is 00:01:21 No, it was a tip of the day from a year ago. Oh, because today you're going to do a knife, right? Tell me you're going to do a knife. No, the knife's not, I'm not ready for the knife. It's a tease. We got the knife is coming. The knife is coming. Yes, the knife is coming.

Starting point is 00:01:34 Very good. Very good. And it was a small bird and it was a heritage and it was brined and it didn't taste like turkey. What it is? It tastes like pheasant. It tastes like pheasant. That's what good turkey tastes like. Which I hear, pheasant tastes a lot like peacock.

Starting point is 00:01:52 I don't know. I've never had peacock. Peacog is good. Well, Black Friday. It's not what it used to be. We used to be fighting and rioting over boxes filled with large screen TV sets. My, how things have changed. Black Friday promotion turns sour.

Starting point is 00:02:10 As shoppers waited hours for the cross mac and cheese, Mac Friday, 65-inch box, only to see it vanish within seconds. The TV-sized deal packed 65 boxes for just 1937, but most fans woke up disappointed, with carts emptied and supply gone before checkout. Chaos and anger erupted online. Some call it a clever marketing stunt, others pure frustration. Did you see this? I'm completely unfamiliar with this.

Starting point is 00:02:36 So it's news to me. Oh, so it was a 65-inch box, kind of like what your TV would come in, filled with mac and cheese. Okay. And people were fighting over it because that's the new thing. We used to fight over television. And I totally believe this happened. Hey, while we're on the top. topic. Who will be the first? Man, you are really cutting through the noise. Are your speakers louder

Starting point is 00:03:03 today than normal? I'm going to turn them down, whatever. Yes, a little bit. Who will be? Oh, man, it's just as crazy. This is way down. I can barely hear you. Let me see. Am I doing the right one? Hold on. Yeah. Oh, that's weird. Oh, cut all that out. Don't worry. Who is the... Goodness gracious, John. It's like I keep cutting through the noise gate. I can't turn you down much more. I can barely hear you myself. I don't know how it's getting through.

Starting point is 00:03:41 Really? I don't understand either. Anyway. Maybe my mic's going bad. Who will be the first to have the secret Santa that pays off everybody's layaway this year? Oh, I forgot about that story. No, it happens. every year. No, it does. It's a standard. Every year we have the bogus story, and it turns up

Starting point is 00:04:06 in every local news station, some guy, and then you first have the crying, weeping shopper outside the store who just discovered that her bills were paid from the local real estate developer. Yeah. It used to be a national thing. It's really moved more towards the local, the local And you're right, it's always the local real estate person who, oh, yeah, someone paid it off. Although sometimes it's actual secret Santa. And then it's just a promotion for Walmart. It has to be a promotion. No, oh, that's right.

Starting point is 00:04:40 I forgot that part of the formula. Of course. Yes, it always happens at Walmart. Yeah. So therefore, you should go there to shop because you just might get it for free. Yeah, hello, that's the way to go. Of course. Of course.

Starting point is 00:04:54 It's beautiful. And we love that. And I'm just stunned at no other. retailer has figured this out? Well, it hasn't happened yet, so because I... Oh, it will. I've got on my filters. We did have an op from

Starting point is 00:05:07 the, what did you call it? The blue wave of doom. Yeah. They pulled... The blue wave of doom. Pulled an op. I don't think it worked very well. The op is Wabbit.

Starting point is 00:05:23 Webit. Acronym for We ain't buying it. So this time, year right after Thanksgiving is usually a layup for big retail companies. But this year has not been business as usual. Activists are upset that corporations are not speaking out against policies promoted by the Trump administration. And so now they want their money to talk. Like the No Kings protests or the Target fast, the branding for this pressure campaign is we ain't buying it. Organizers want you to pull back from spending money at Target and Home Depot and Amazon.

Starting point is 00:05:56 Now, in a press release, they say the companies have caved to Donald Trump's bigoted and anti-democratic attacks on our communities and our values from cravenly abandoning their commitments to diversity, equity, and inclusion to enabling the terrorizing of our communities. Corporate collaboration must stop. Now, the boycott puts another bull's eye on target. A retailer has been open about seeing their bottom line be impacted by this previous boycott after dropping DEI initiatives. but is the holiday timing a game changer. Natasha Brown is co-founder of Black Voters Matter. That's one of the groups leading this We Ain't Buying It effort. Okay, hold on for a second.

Starting point is 00:06:36 Black Voters Matter, go to their website, hit the donate button, act blue. It goes right to act blue, of course. Act blue. So this is just another political action. Stunt. Caged in like, we ain't buying it. And the reason why, well, we hate Trump.

Starting point is 00:06:55 Lettasha, welcome back to the show. Let me start here. So we know about the reason behind the target focus. Tell me about what... Stop. Where did you get this clip? CNN? Huh.

Starting point is 00:07:08 What did you think? I don't know. I was wondering. It sounded like the Black News Network. You're also focusing on... There is no Black News Network. Yeah, there is. I listen to do it all the time.

Starting point is 00:07:19 I have it local. It's fantastic, actually. Oh, really? Yeah. It's really good. It's better than the typical news around that you get from the white news networks. So this is not CNN. It's the white news network.

Starting point is 00:07:31 Okay, we'll keep it like that for now on. Behind the target focus. Tell me about why you're also focusing on Home Depot and Amazon. Well, now remember, this is for people to, we ain't buying it. We ain't buying it. I might have to get a two by four. No, you can't buy it. You can't buy it because of Trump.

Starting point is 00:07:50 You know, when we look at Home Depot, it's interesting. Home Depot has actually built their business as based on home improvement and construction. And they've built their business on the backs, quite frankly, of immigrant labor on an industry that depends on immigrant labor. But what we've seen is they've actually been colluding. Really? They built their business on the backs of immigrant labor? Really? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:13 No. Yeah, obviously. No. On immigrant labor. But what we've seen is they've actually been colluding with ICE to provide everything. information, um, to surveillance. One of the groups. The way, we just stop the clip.

Starting point is 00:08:25 So in other words, yes, for this finishes, they built their whole business around immigrant labor, but to shoot themselves in the head, they decided to collude with ICE to get rid of the immigrant labor. So they, because they built it around immigrant labor, can go broke. Is that the logic here?

Starting point is 00:08:46 And go home. I think they all just want to go home and not buy it. What we've seen is they've actually been colluding with ICE to provide information, to surveillance. Any collusion? That's a part of the coalition that two of the workers that were in the store that they called, that ICE actually came in their store and attacked while they were in there. And so Home Depot has also been capitulating. They have aligned themselves with this administration that is creating hurting harm on the very people who have helped to build this business. Well, then they're pretty stupid.

Starting point is 00:09:16 Your point is well made, John C. DeVoreg. Let's see if the other two examples, if you can find something similar. And Amazon, what we see is also, they've been supporting, just for a tax break. They've been supporting this administration, providing a million dollars for the inauguration, you know, so that they can get tax benefits at our expense. And what we're saying is that we expect corporations to be accountable. Wait a minute. So this is about tax breaks. That doesn't come from the administration.

Starting point is 00:09:46 That comes from your city. because it doesn't come from Donald Trump. If you open up in New York or in Atlanta or wherever you want to, New Jersey, wherever you want to open up, that's a city or a state tax break, not a federal tax break. Am I wrong? Prove me wrong. She's unclear. To get accountable to the customers, you can't align yourself with an administration that is hurting and harming our communities.

Starting point is 00:10:16 We won't buy it. we ain't buying it. Now, before we get to some of the goals of this protest, this boycott, vote Democrat. Walmart rolled back their DEI. There have been ICE missions and operations of those locations.

Starting point is 00:10:32 Why these two and not the others? Walmart. Well, you know, part of what we're asking people, and I think what you're going to see across the board this weekend, what you're going to see across the board is that many of those companies. It doesn't sound like there's a boycott on Walmart, which of course makes sense because Walmart is

Starting point is 00:10:47 all in with these people. So I think she's trying to deflect here, unless I'm misunderstanding. Companies, they're going to see some, they're going to see their sales be down. What we wanted to do is to send a message with these three companies. One, it's measurable. You can, they're focused.

Starting point is 00:11:03 We're focused on that. But we're saying we ain't buying it. We're not standing with any company, right? These three are just the beginning. They're not the end. Those other companies as well, we're asking people. We've been asking people to hold their money, to not support and shop with.

Starting point is 00:11:17 companies that do not align with the values that we believe that supports our communities, including these other companies. These three companies just happened to be the companies that we decided that because of what it was happening, because we're seeing the egregious nature, that we would focus on those three companies. Okay. So this is their operation. I don't think it worked.

Starting point is 00:11:38 Well, wait. Well, I'll give you the number. You have the number. U.S. shoppers spent a record $11.8 billion up. 9.1. This is online alone from 2020, almost 10% from 20. Almost, yeah. Wow. How much up? How many percent? Almost 10, 9.1. Wow. But meanwhile, the activists were definitely. And by the way, one more thing. I thought this was called blackout or black something. I think they hijacked it. They hijacked it.

Starting point is 00:12:12 like they had a consultant look at it and said blackouts no good how about we ain't buying it yeah that's great here's 10 grand i think that i think that's i think that's what happens yeah here is one of their uh their activists uh who decided to take another another angle at we ain't buying it and went to ticot buying stuff is not a hobby stuff is not a hobby if your sense of self is built upon your packages from Amazon and that's all you

Starting point is 00:12:51 have going on and that is sad Target runs are not a hobby Starbucks cups are not a hobby you could stock your drawers with a million creams or buy NFTs of some old ass memes but you don't have goals and you don't have dreams and that is bad you could take up Taekwondo

Starting point is 00:13:11 You could learn to knit You could write a book But know you'd rather buy some plastic shit Brands want you to be a loser But you are more than a consumer So go outside and touch some grass Put your music on and shake your ass Your human soul and bank account

Starting point is 00:13:32 We'll both be glad Yeah And it worked Wow, what a song Yeah. Hey, Lisa wasn't AI. It was a real song. You don't know that. No, I'm pretty sure. She was playing the ukulele. I was impressed. I was very impressed. Oh, yeah. That sounds like a yuk. Yeah, like a yuk. So we did have a couple of, of course, we're on the ball here. We are here for you as a public service.

Starting point is 00:14:01 There was a little bit of a frenzy with the Airbus issue. Yeah, I have a clip. have a clip. I'm happy to play your clip. Which is your clip? I don't know. Probably something either Airbus or 320. Well, I'll play the... Airbus 320 issue. That could be the clip.

Starting point is 00:14:21 Yep. On the year's busiest travel weekend, the FAA has ordered airlines to update software in a widely used aircraft by midnight tonight. Airbus issued a software fix for about 6,000 of its A320 family of jets after an analysis has found that solar radiation bursts may corrupt key data needed for flight controls. They say that's likely why a jet blue flight suddenly lost altitude last month, sending more than a dozen people to hospitals. American, Delta, and United all say they expect the fix to be done quickly and with minimal disruption.

Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, this was a bigger disruption over in Europe. It's a best-selling aircraft used by commercial airlines across the world. Airbus has ordered immediate repairs to 6,000 of his A-320s. more than half of its global fleet due to a flight control software issue. For safety reasons, the planes cannot fly until repaired. The flight system in question sends commands from the pilot's side stick to elevators at the rear. It's manufactured by the French company Tellis, which insists it's not responsible for the problem. I didn't do it.

Starting point is 00:15:26 The recall involved a flight from Cancun to Newark on the 30th of October. Several passengers were hurt after a sharp loss of altitude, forcing the pilots to make an emergency landing in Florida. After analysis, Airbus claims that intense solar radiation may have been the culprit. We need to talk about solar storms, which are particles emitted by explosions, on the sun's surface, that project a cloud of particles and can reach Earth in about 20 hours. But if this happens with significant intensity, it can disrupt computers, and therefore the flight control linked to the computer give you bad information. Repairs can be completed within a few hours for each plane,

Starting point is 00:16:01 but disruptions will vary in length depending on the company. So solar, huh? X flares, K-flare's? This was that, do you remember a couple of weeks ago when that solar flare hit? Yes. And that's the day that my, my, I told you this, I said that the, for some reason the, are the knock got all confused? No, it was the, the clean feed itself, I couldn't, it came with these word messages,

Starting point is 00:16:28 I couldn't get on it. And I mentioned this on the show, and you thought that was, I said, never happened before. and then I noticed in that same day over that period of time, there's people driving weird and Mimi, Mimi noticed it, and so did Jay and Brennan. What do you define driving weird? Just like they're shorted out. They're driving just down the middle of the street.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Those aren't people, John. I mean, it was just a lot of weird driving. Those aren't people. That's the drones. That's the bot people. Well, whatever was driving, they were doing a poor job of it. NPCs. But I think the, I think that solar flares,

Starting point is 00:17:04 that did something and I guess it screwed up these airplanes get some something in there. At first I'm like, this sounds like a bull crap story. It does sound like a bull crap story. So I look into it and it turns out that so there's a lot of systems obviously. It's all fly by wire and there's actually an ECC chip that's mounted onto one of the redundant controller systems. Are you familiar with ECC memory?

Starting point is 00:17:42 Is that, no, I'm not. Well, I mean to explain it, maybe I am. Well, I'm only going to read from the definitions I looked up. A specialized type of computer memory, RAM specifically, designed to detect and correct the most common types of internal data correction, often called soft errors. ECC memory works by using an extra chip on the memory module that stores error correction codes, hence ECC, also known as parity bits. When data is written to the memory.

Starting point is 00:18:15 Yes, they used to have this on memory book, course, you used to have that extra chip. Yeah, back in the day when it was crap. Yeah, they stopped doing it. So what they're claiming. Because it costs an extra nickel, forget it. So what they're claiming is that the solar flares can actually flip a bit in the chip. You know, this is what I was thinking. Not that particular exact issue, but I was thinking that the whole thing was a shielding problem.

Starting point is 00:18:42 Well, you would think. If you had these modules shielded properly, you'd be good to go. I agree with you. And what's even more interesting to me is that this was not, you know, what the change was. It was actually downgrading, rolling back an update. I'm like, come on. You can't tell me that some update and they're not taking responsibility for it. That's an excellent point.

Starting point is 00:19:10 What you're saying, well, it's possible, I can see it. It's possible that the old code wouldn't have been, if that bit was flipped, it wouldn't make any difference. Yeah. Well, and so you can't just, oh, it's solar flash. No, it's your crappy software. Well, yeah, that's for sure. Come on. If you're rolling back, it's not like it was a hardware upgrade.

Starting point is 00:19:35 Like, oh, we have to do something. Yeah, you have to swap out the chip. So somebody's. Although you could shield it, hello. I would think shielding would be the, well, maybe there's, I mean, who knows? Who knows with this stuff? Could just be an attack from Boeing for all we know. Ah, look at these guys.

Starting point is 00:19:51 Let's screw them up. I had no idea until this report came out that the 320 was the number one airplane in the world. I didn't know that they... I also don't know if that's true. Well, every report said it. Oh, that's an interesting question. It's the most popular of a passenger plane in the world, period, according to everybody.

Starting point is 00:20:16 Well, it's possible. I mean, I'd say the 737 rivals. That's what I was thinking. 737 went, you know, but it's not what they're kept reporting it. Nobody was saying no. Well, but, you know, no one looks into these things anymore. They're not even calling it a glitch often just like, hey, it's just what happens, you know. And Friday, it was kind of the same on the stock markets or specifically the future markets,

Starting point is 00:20:41 another centralization problem. We continue to follow the outage at the CME that has halted trading in stock index futures and other contracts. That was caused by a cooling issue at the CME's data center. However, services are gradually being restored in treasuries, commodities and metals are said to be trading, normally at this point, you can kind of see the moves in the pound, the dollar, the euro. Stock index futures are still halted, though. We will keep you updated on when those might be restored. But again, it's been hours at this point.

Starting point is 00:21:14 We are continuing to watch. And we'll let you know as soon as those stock futures begin to trade properly as well. I always wonder when you have an outage like that, Forex and futures, like what's going on in the background? How can someone take advantage of that? and then it was a cool ways I'm sure it's completely centralized

Starting point is 00:21:34 in one data center and cooling brings it all down I mean this is you know we're going to see more and more of this thank God for podcasting being decentralized

Starting point is 00:21:46 because we're just going to see more and more and more and more of this more things yeah oh yeah AWS Cloudflare you know Azure

Starting point is 00:21:57 there's only a three or four big players. So this is not good. In this case, I have to say I got a promotion, promotion from Elon Musk, from his, what's his, what's his satellite thing called again? Starlink. Starlink, yeah. So for $5 a month in deactivated state, they're going to send me a Starlink Mini, which I think

Starting point is 00:22:27 it's pretty cool. Yeah, but what's, what's, don't you have Starlink already? Yeah, but this is so, you know, you put this in your go bag. So if, if it all hits the fans. So for five bucks a month, you can have a little device in your go bag. And so when you go after when the grid goes down, you can get out of there and you can have a little thing and you can act. And then you can stay in touch. I put it right next to my ammo where it belongs.

Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah. And what was it, a jug of water? What's the things that we have in there? I forgot. Flashlight, a grinding flashlight. A grinding flashlight. It kind of has a grinder on the side. Yeah, a grinder, or as we call it in the old country, a Knaipkot, get one of those. And you need a radio that you power by winding it.

Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah, that's the same like the flashlight. Voo-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-woo. It's pretty great. It lasts for about five seconds. Yeah. So I got a lot. It lasts a lot of that. Yeah, a go bag.

Starting point is 00:23:30 Actually, I got one more. You know, I'm in earthquake country, and you'd think I would need a go bag because, you know, if you have an, you know, I grabbed the go bag, which the go bag, there should be, we should probably have the no agenda go bag. No agenda go bag. Yeah. It has to have a couple pairs of underwear, for starters. Some mac and cheese. Probably a chain, a shirt. It's going to be bigger than it. It's going to be more like a, like a garment bag.

Starting point is 00:23:52 If you're going to go, you might as well bring a garment bag with you. It's got a much clothes in it. You're nailing it. This is a great promotion. They're talking about a little bitty bag with a couple of items. Screw that. Have a garment bag loaded in the gills with stuff, throw in the car and get out of there.

Starting point is 00:24:07 A garment bag. Yeah, it should be a garment bag. No, it shouldn't be a garment bag. We need a proper, no agenda go bag. We should at least have the contents. We should have, we should have a, it should be a no agenda go bag in a theoretical. So it doesn't have to be a, no, we're not going to sell it. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:24:28 We'll throw in some gigawak coffee because, you know, when you're on the go, you need some coffee. We'll throw in a voucher for a resume from Linda Lou. Yeah, because when you're on the go, you're going to need a job. You're going to need a job. So you need a resume. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it's perfect.

Starting point is 00:24:50 We got you covered, people. No worries. No worries at all. So there's a lot of different things where, I mean, we have this DC, shooter, which is part of a bigger op, but I think we should leave that for just a second. Let's do Ukraine, because there's

Starting point is 00:25:05 some movement. I have some Ukraine stuff that are good intro stuff. You probably have some deeper analysis, I'm hoping. I do. I got three clips. I got the Ukraine update. Okay. Let's hit that. Russia carried out

Starting point is 00:25:21 drone and missile strikes on Ukraine's capital overnight. Authorities say two people were killed, and at least seven were wounded. The attacks come as the White House continues to make a new diplomatic push to end the conflict. NPR's Charles Mainz reports from Moscow. The Kremlin says the U.S. has now provided a document outlining the main parameters of its peace proposal. One amended with input from Ukraine in Europe after an earlier version was criticized as heavily tilted in Moscow's favor. Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has suggested the plan could still be the basis of a

Starting point is 00:25:56 settlement, but only if Ukraine is the one to make key concessions. Among them, a demand to surrender territory claimed, but not controlled by Russia after more than three years of fighting. The topic is sure to come up when Ukrainian negotiators meet with White House envoy Steve Whitkoff and other administration officials this weekend in Florida. Whitkoff then heads to Russia for talks with Putin in the coming days. Yeah, what I find interesting is that everybody, every report around the world is they're meeting in Florida. They're meeting in Florida. Why don't they just say they're meeting at Mar-a-Lago. I presume that's where the meeting's going to take place.

Starting point is 00:26:31 Ah, you're presuming. Yes. They could be meeting at Disney World. You don't know. Let's see. Now, regarding it, well, you looked that up, regarding this, the strikes on Keeve. Yes. They were, there was 10 hours of drones and missiles and they killed two.

Starting point is 00:26:52 I guess. But you, you, you're going to bomb this, a major city, a metropolitan. metropolitan city and you're going to bomb it for 10 hours solid with missiles and and drones and two people dead this makes no sense to me well they're not very effective all right well let's while you're looking up the well can i can i just say that as i don't know how old that report was was that from friday yesterday well that's interesting because the the the russian attack was a counterattack for the sea drones. Did you know about this?

Starting point is 00:27:30 The sea drones were launched from Keith? No. Well, here listen. Now the latest on the war in Ukraine, Ukraine's intelligence service, releasing dramatic images showing its attack on two sanctioned Russian oil tankers off Turkey's coast. ABC's Patrick Revell is in Ukraine with the latest. Russia overnight heavily bombed Kiev once again with hundreds of drones and missiles. But Ukraine also hitting back in a. a new way. It's SPU intelligence service today releasing dramatic video showing sea drones

Starting point is 00:27:59 hitting two Russian tankers near Turkey that the Kremlin allegedly has been using to smuggle oil. It comes as a Ukrainian delegation is expected to arrive tonight in Florida for talks tomorrow on the Trump administration's new peace plan. They will meet with Secretary of State Marco Rubio as well as President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and his envoy, Steve Wickhoff. The delegation was due to be led by President Zelensky's chief of staff, Andrew Yermak, but he was forced to resign yesterday amid a corruption scandal. Zelensky

Starting point is 00:28:31 under huge pressure. Now, Wikov is due to visit Moscow next week to present the plan to Vladimir Putin, but Putin has already sign that he won't compromise, saying that it's pointless to sign anything with Zelensky. So they launched drones, Ukraine

Starting point is 00:28:48 launched sea drones. Yeah, there's no boat drones. Near Turkey. Yeah, and by the way, I think it was irresponsible. That's not very environmentally friendly to blow up a tanker full of oil. Very ungreen. It had to cause a lot of pollution. Very not green of

Starting point is 00:29:03 them. Probably killed a lot of fish. I just find it highly unlikely at those little boat drones I mean, where were they launched from? They weren't launched from, obviously not from Kiev. A vague a vague report.

Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. Well, and the end of that report had a little bit about the corruption, which is these two clips at last ones I have. Okay. And these are WTF clips, which means that they don't make sense. Negotiations. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm the one to step on my own clip. You should be sorry. I am. Ready? Negotiations to end Russia's war against Ukraine will continue in Florida this weekend as a Ukrainian delegation arrives to negotiate with the Trump administration. Joining us now with the latest is NPR's Eleanor Beardsley in Kiev. Hi, Eleanor.

Starting point is 00:29:52 Hi, Miles. So these negotiations won't include a top Ukrainian negotiator who resigned yesterday. Can you tell us about him? Well, his name is Andrei Yermak, and he is Zelensky's chief of staff and right-hand man. They go way back to Zelensky's TV days before he was elected president of Ukraine in 2019. Yermak is a film producer and a former business partner of Zelensky. And they've also worked closely together and even lived together in the fortified government compound in Kiev since the full-scale invasion. Gehrmack is not well-liked by Ukrainians who say he's amassed too much power and was not the person they voted for. Analysts tell me American and European allies didn't appreciate him either. Anyway, he got caught up in the corruption scandal that broke in mid-November involving at least eight people who are now under investigation, several close to Zelensky, who are suspected of siphoning off more than $100 million from the state nuclear power agency, and this at a time when Ukrainians are fighting a war and hunkering down under daily power cuts.

Starting point is 00:30:51 Investigators searched his house Friday morning, and Friday night, Zelensky spoke and said he had accepted Yermak's resignation. In his video address to the nation, let's listen. He says, for our internal strength, there should be no reason to be distracted by anything other than the defense of Ukraine. And he went on to say, Russia really wants Ukraine to make mistakes, and we will make no mistakes. But negotiations are ongoing to end this war with Russia. How is this scandal going to impact that? Well, some say it's made Ukraine more vulnerable and weakened Zelensky. But today I spoke with 30-year-old Dmitro Kotyatensky.

Starting point is 00:31:29 He's a young anti-corruption activist. And he says this investigation and Yermak's resignation doesn't show Ukraine is corrupt, just the opposite. Zelensky just lost his main guy. He's on record saying, well, if he's not with me in the, I'm not here. This is his man. He got abandoned. I think this guy extracted himself. It's not like he got arrested.

Starting point is 00:31:56 No, I just resigned and he's gone. And he's gone. Yeah, to one of the many houses he probably has around the world. Yeah. And I like the idea that, hey, that's, there's no corruption. Getting caught proves there's no corruption. What kind of logic is that? I think what they're probably saying is it proves that they're getting rid of corruption.

Starting point is 00:32:16 We're getting ready for the EU. No. No. This guy, this guy was either pulled out or saw it all. I mean, Zelensky is naked now. I think he's complete, because we just have to remember. Well, he has to be because the public in Ukraine say that this other guy's too powerful. They didn't vote for him, meaning he's running the show. Yeah, of course he was running the show. Zelensky, just to reiterate, was an actor playing a popular, playing an actor. Playing an actor. who by popularity was voted to become president of Ukraine, and then it happened. And it was produced and directed by that guy. He's now gone. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:32:58 So when that guy's gone, you know, it's like the crew just went home, dude. Like, shut the lights off when you leave the studio. I think this is over for him. What's your, what's the second clip here? It's just a follow up. It shows Ukraine can independently investigate and expose corruption, something Russia, he says, could never. do. Here he is. For me, it's incredible that during a full-scale war, we didn't drift to

Starting point is 00:33:26 autocracy, and we are still a democratic country with clear European values. And can you tell us the latest on the amended peace plan that negotiators are working from? Well, this is the amended plan after Ukraine and the Europeans weighed in on what was a very pro-Russian plan presented last week by White House envoy, Steve Whitkoff. Zelensky has endorsed. this one. But while Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested the plan could still be the basis of a settlement, he said Russia would only stop its war if Ukraine leaves territory it's currently occupying. And he was referring to parts of Ukraine's eastern Donbass region that Russia has not been able to take in nearly four years of fighting. Putin said if

Starting point is 00:34:07 Ukraine doesn't leave, Russia will take the land by force anyway. And Ukrainians don't think Putin will stop. And it's easy to understand why, Miles. The Kremlin continues to attack Ukrainian in cities just last night. There was a massive combined attack of drones and missiles on Kyiv. It went on for 10 hours. Two people were killed, dozens injured. Yeah, dozens. I thought it was two.

Starting point is 00:34:28 But I thought it was two. Two killed. Oh, dozens injured. After 10 hours of attacks. Okay. Well, very effective. All right. So Zelensky is naked.

Starting point is 00:34:38 He has, his guys no longer with him. The studio is empty. The grips have left. All of the costumes and all the words. Wardrobe. Gone. Wardrobe and makeup. He's gone. He's going to have to do selfies. Here's a report from, this is from, I think it might be, Euro News. Tough speaker, but just get into it and just let your mind hear what she's saying. Because this is, and Euro News, as I said, EU not wanting any of this.

Starting point is 00:35:10 They don't want any deal. They want to keep the war going, including the, let me see. Listen to this. Just, you have to get into it. A new delegation chief for high-stakes talks. This is not the bad one. This is the good one. Security Council Secretary Rustem Yomerov is now leading the Ukrainian team heading to the U.S.

Starting point is 00:35:29 for discussions on a peace deal that Washington is aiming to broker between Keev and Moscow. It comes after the resignation of Andrea Mao. Hold on. This is the wrong way around. I want this one. This is the one. Where do you get the French guy in here. A new delegation chief for HAPA.

Starting point is 00:35:45 It's the same clip. What is that? Oh, you screwed it up. Let me see if the French guy's in here. The Ukrainian delegation has the necessary directives. Others, however, are more skeptical, including this former diplomat. President Vladimir Putin has already said several times that he doesn't want to sign any agreement whatsoever,

Starting point is 00:36:05 whether it's a ceasefire, a peace agreement, or any other kind of agreement. We are far from reaching any kind of agreement. He doesn't want to sign with Zelensky because he considers him illegitimate. After meeting the Ukrainian officials, Wikhoff is due to travel to Russia next week to meet with President Vladimir Putin. Over in Europe, President Emmanuel Macron will hold discussions with Zelensky in Paris on Monday. According to the French presidency, the two leaders will talk about the conditions for a just and lasting peace. All right, so the problem that still remains, and we'll get to the solutions that are on the table in a minute with our boy, Rasulis. I got a two-parter from him.

Starting point is 00:36:44 Hey, he's good. He knows what he's doing. Hopefully he doesn't ask for commissions. No. This may be the tough speaker. This is about the money. And I'm sure you didn't, no one heard about it. But yeah, really, if you looked really hard, you could follow that the European commission, i.e. Queen Ursula, wants to take the money, the Russian money.

Starting point is 00:37:10 Oh, right. We've talked about this over and over. He talked about in the last show. Yes. They want to basically ruin the world financial system. Maybe they're going to buy it this way. Look, Swift's going to get submarineed anyway by Stablecoin if that works. So let's get the money and then hell with it.

Starting point is 00:37:28 Well, it's only like $300 billion. I mean, it's a lot to blow up. Yeah, but it's $300 billion. So they are, they're just incessant. We need this money. And Brussels, where Euroclear is, that's where the. the actual money is. When I say actual money, I guess it's

Starting point is 00:37:47 just some data. I don't know if EuroClear holds gold or I don't know what real money this is. Which reminds me. Yes. Where's there Fort Knox people that are supposed to go in with the cameras? Since Trump got elected,

Starting point is 00:38:03 they were talking about it. What happens? It's been a year and there's nobody going in there. Where's my live stream? And Brussels sent a stern letter and said, no, no, we don't want that because they know that they're going to have a target on their backs if they all of a sudden give up this money. So they're like, no, you can't do that.

Starting point is 00:38:22 Here's the report. This may be the tough lady is tough to hear. In an interview with Euro News on the morning show, Europe today, EU ambassador to Ukraine, Katarina, Maternova, called on the EU to move forward with the Russian frozen assets debates. If seized, the assets could secure 140 billion euros reparations loan to Ukraine to fund its war effort. Very important is to move on the Russian frozen assets.

Starting point is 00:38:47 That's what the Commission presented as the three potential avenues, how to secure money for Ukraine, which would send an important signal not only to Ukraine, but to Russia as well, that Europe will stay with Ukraine. These people are delusional. Oh, it'll send a message all right. Oh, it sends an important message to the people. Are you kidding me? The message is it?

Starting point is 00:39:12 Where's our money is the message? No one can trust you. Ultimately, it is the Belgian government that holds the key as the host country of the assets depository euro-clear. It has, however, yet to give the green light. Belgian Prime Minister, Baddeweather, sent a strongly worded letter to the European Commission on Thursday night, saying the reparations loan is fundamentally wrong and that he remains unequivocally clear about the dangers. I think they do this voice on purpose so we can't understand what's going on. You know, it's not that you can't hear the words. It's the cadence.

Starting point is 00:39:44 It's horrible. It's some weird cadence that's almost impossible to pick up on. I mean, the individual words are there, but it's the way it's presented. It's very strange. You might be right. It might be hypnotic. In this case, I would say, go for AI, please. Diplomatic efforts at the highest echelons continue,

Starting point is 00:40:04 but the clock is ticking before EU leaders gather for a summit in December for a crunch decision. And for her part, Matanova, it could this conscience. Sanctions and deliveries and support to the Ukrainian armed forces and the defense industry are all critical. You ask what would happen if it doesn't take place. I think the stakes are very high. And not only for Ukraine, but for all of Europe. Yes. Well, mainly for the military industrial base, which is building up in the EU.

Starting point is 00:40:38 Leonardo, we've heard of that as a big defense contractor. They just unveiled the Michelangelo Dome. Yes, we're trying to do one better than your Golden Dome, Trump. It's an AI-powered shield system. Woo! Can you say boondoggle? Boondoggle, baby. An AI-powered shield system.

Starting point is 00:41:04 And so it's, and why is it named Michelangelo? Well, the company is Leonardo. Da Vinci? Yes. Well, just Leonardo. How many Leonardo's do you know except DiCaprio? Da Vinci? Yes, Da Vinci.

Starting point is 00:41:21 So that's why it's got to do with the- Michelangelo. Michaelangelo is not, wasn't Leonardo Michelangelo? It's right in the same city. Oh, okay. Same country. Oh, I get it. It's a dumb name.

Starting point is 00:41:37 so it's the sand yeah okay i got it michelangelo dome michael angelo so here's uh here's our boy rousoulos um it's in his back to the pullovers he's back to the sweaters um on cbc very globalist interview actually only got two clips uh first we'll talk about zelanski's main guy stepping down and does that affect everything let's talk about the timing of this because it is quite a turbulent time Politically for Ukraine, particularly Zelensky, dealing with the fallout from that corruption scandal, his chief of staff and key negotiator stepped down on Friday. So what kind of pressure is that now putting on Zelensky in these negotiations? It certainly makes him weaker now.

Starting point is 00:42:22 You have people from the opposition who are starting to cite. You have the Chalooly, the Ukrainian ambassador in London, who is a former commander of Ukrainian forces, is now writing articles about how to conclude a piece and you may have to make some deals on security guarantees. I mean, people are coming out now and basically kind of second-tiering opinions against Zelensky. So Zelensky is weaker and he's got a new team together, yes. But this does not look good on him the fact that you have these corruption scandals,

Starting point is 00:42:56 particularly in the area of energy, when the Russians are actually hitting the energy grid in Ukraine and ministers are actually taking 15% off the top in terms of contracts to fix the energy grid. Yeah, that's how you do it. You make sure that you take some money and let the grid get blown up and take some money off of the repair for the grid. Who knows they could be doing it themselves. So now we get to the meat, the meat of it, and this globalist newsreader,

Starting point is 00:43:28 this very biased. So the question is, what about the plan and our favorite terms de Jure, de facto, and demilitarized zone, all are at play? You know, looking at the initial plan, Trump's initial 28-point peace plan, it was criticized as being too weighted towards Russia. It was called a Russian wish list at one point by some who were criticizing that. I didn't hear that. Did you hear Russian wish list? What? Russian what?

Starting point is 00:43:57 The 28-point plan was by some. called a Russian wish list. A wish list. I didn't hear that. I haven't heard it. No, they say it was written by the Russians or it was Putin's plan, but they never heard about it. Because she's a globalist newsreader. And part of that included Ukraine ceding the entire eastern region of the Donbass

Starting point is 00:44:20 to Russia, which of course is a non-starter for Kiev. So is there any wiggle room here? And how can they possibly have a refine middle ground when it comes to creating this framework? Sure. I don't think we're looking for a middle ground, again, because of the balance of forces favors the Russians. So I think it's going to be more give on the Ukrainian side, let's give on the Russian side, but the Russians might give something. Now, the thing about the territory, the magic words, is not to cede by law. That is not de jure. And the Russians have accepted the fact that all they're requiring the Ukrainians and the West is to acknowledge.

Starting point is 00:44:56 It's really, I think, stop using the word seed, but actually it's better to use, the fact that the Russian forces control and occupy the areas they do. And that's a major difference. So, de facto not de Uri. Now, the key pivot here in these final negotiations will be, as you

Starting point is 00:45:14 mentioned, ceding or giving up the rest of the Donbass, particularly the fortress built in Donetsk. That, for the Russians, is really important. And for the Ukrainians, it's really important to hold. I think a lot will shift on that. And I cannot predict the outcome, except

Starting point is 00:45:30 that a demilitarized zone concept may be a solution there. Yeah, this is going to be just like North and South Korea. Demilitarized zone, de facto, that's yours, that's ours. We're not going to, we're not going to paper the deal because, you know, Europe still needs their boogeyman at the border. And I think this deal will happen. I think it's a good chance it happens this weekend. I think it'll be pulled up.

Starting point is 00:45:58 There's nothing left. But this weekend's almost over. Well, by the time you... By the time you hear this, by the time you hear this podcast. After the, right, well, there you go, that's possible. Yeah. But after the Mar-a-Lago meeting, if you looked it up, did you figure out where they're going to meet in Florida? Yeah, it looked it up.

Starting point is 00:46:18 And that, according to... According to... According to Gemini, because, you know, Gemini is now the best AI. It is? Well, according to the Mar-A-I... Well, according to the marketing, yes. Technically, no. The talks taking place today Sunday, November 30th, 2025,

Starting point is 00:46:38 are not being held directly at Mar-Lago, though they are happening nearby in Florida involving key members of President-elect Trump's inner circle. They will be taking place at the Hollandale Beach Shell Bay Club. A golf and rocket club developed by Trump's special on. Oh, it's Wittkoff's club. Oh. How about that?

Starting point is 00:47:03 Wittkoff owns a golf club, too? I guess so, yeah. The Hallandale Beach at the Shell Bay Club. That's about an hour south of Marlago. Well, that's neutral ground. I think that's Whitkoff. Hey, we'll do it in my club. All right.

Starting point is 00:47:22 I want to do it in my club. I want my club, man. My club is better. I want my club. My club is better. Crazy times we live in. Crazy, crazy times. All right.

Starting point is 00:47:35 So we have a, the Islam op has taken off. And this happens on the heels of this shooting in D.C. of the two guardsmen.

Starting point is 00:47:51 One female, passed away and one in critical condition. Do you have any clips on that? I don't have anything on it. And the newslet I was talking about the color revolution concept that's showing up. Yep. I'm going to get to that. Which we'll talk about, I guess. Yes. And, but no, I don't because there's nothing to me, there's nothing really, uh, uh, I, I'm just not that excited about it. I mean, I feel bad about the woman getting killed. You're not excited. And it's interesting. also interesting that this guy's probably a spook and he came all the way from Bellingham, Washington, one way or the other to come to Washington, D.C. to shoot two random people. The whole thing,

Starting point is 00:48:34 you know, it reminds me a little bit of the shooting in New York that they covered up where the guy came in and shot the Blackstone woman. Yeah. And they claimed it was he shooting at the NFL for some reason because he's got brain damage even though he never played football in the NFL. And they just to cover up the Blackstone killing because Blackstone's an issue. And they were, and he came from an area where they were dominating, buying up properties. Yeah. So it made sense. I get the sense of something like that going on, but I can't put my finger on what it is.

Starting point is 00:49:06 And why would he? Well, we don't have enough information. It felt to me a very six-week cycle like, you know, rile a guy up, get him to go to D.C., shoot something, somebody had a bit of that. That is not the official story. In fact, we'll do this for just a little bit. It does have, by the way, it does have a slight six-week cycle screwed up. You know, they screwed up again like they did in Butler.

Starting point is 00:49:31 You know, when they got the guy, they have pictures. Why was the guy completely naked? Did you see that? I didn't see these. Yeah, yeah. There's pictures of they got the guy and they got him on a stretcher and he's completely naked. Are you sure there wasn't AI?

Starting point is 00:49:49 Who knows? I'm not sure of anything anymore. Here's the most recent fallout over this. New this morning, President Trump says he plans to suspend immigration from what he calls third world countries. The announcement comes after a shooting in downtown D.C. that killed a National Guard member and critically injured another. Police say the suspect is a 29-year-old Afghan National who arrived in 2021. Trump has not said when the suspension would begin or which countries it would include. Okay, here's a follow-up. And you've made changes for Afghani's ability to apply for asylum. Do you blame all Afghans for this one man's? No, but we've had a lot of problems with Afghans because they had a lot of them coming in

Starting point is 00:50:31 on these planes. Again, I'll show you this picture. So he's showing the picture that we've all seen, I think, of the C-130s completely packed with people, the people who supposedly were hanging on the aircraft. Remember that? Remember that? They were, they were hanging on to the sides of that inflatable fake aircraft. But inside there were indeed hundreds of people. Planes, again, I show you this picture. We had a lot of them coming in on these planes that are, look at them. There was no checking.

Starting point is 00:51:01 They just poured into the plane. And many of these people are criminals. Many of these people are people that shouldn't be here. And many of them have been gotten out. I mean, we've gotten out some, a lot of the people that, you know, we've taken a lot of matter here. Well, they can't be happy. They can't be happy because what's taking place between that, if you look at Somalia, they're taking over Minnesota, and they are, we've got a lot of problems with the gangs, with all of the things taking place in Minnesota. We have an incompetent governor, a dope. We have a dope governor.

Starting point is 00:51:35 He's a dope. We got a dope there. They can't be happy about what's going on. If you talk about the Afghans, you know, there's a problem because so many bad ones came in. on the planes. They just walked out. Whoever the strongest people were physically in a way, but whoever the strongest they got on the planes, there was no checking. They just swamped the planes. They took off. We had no idea who they were. Okay. So we had no idea. And in many cases, we did not. And there was, and absolutely, there were a lot of Afghanis similar to Iraq who worked as translators and worked closely. This was a different deal. This is a different deal. This is,

Starting point is 00:52:17 a, you know, it's a little vague about, yeah, I was a CIA trained. These are basically mercenaries, as far as I can tell. And they were doing a lot in northern Afghanistan, even when everybody pulled out, because they were still fighting, I guess, the Kurds up there or something. So it's very sketchy as to his CIA training and connection. Unfortunately, if you're the female reporter who asked about this, you got the brunt of President Trump. Your DOJ IG just reported this year that there was thorough vetting by DHS and by the FBI of these Afghans who were brought into the U.S. So why do you blame the Biden administration?

Starting point is 00:52:57 Because they let them in. Are you stupid? Are you a stupid person? Because they came into a plane along with thousands of other people that shouldn't be here. And you're just asking questions because you're a stupid person. There you go. Well, you know, I miss that. Are you a stupid person. Okay, now for whatever. If you're, I'm trying to, I always imagine, if you're a reporter, and you have this question list, and you have to get some response or other, and you ask, you know, it's innocuous. He could have been nicer, but then they blasts her.

Starting point is 00:53:36 She just gets blasted out of the water. And maybe at some point it becomes a badge of something. some sort, you know. Oh, I got Trump mailed me. Oh, of course. Hey, Trump called me stupid. Wow. Have a drink on me. So what's interesting is the Sunday shows, thank you, Steve, uh, for getting that for me. The Sunday shows, it was Christy Noem everywhere. It wasn't Cash Patel. Yeah, Christy Noam is on it. She's got a, she's, yes, she's been booked to an extreme everywhere. So she's the one sending out the messaging, and she's good at it. And this is her with Jonathan Carl on ABC. Let's turn to Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noem. Secretary Noem, thank you for joining

Starting point is 00:54:23 us. Have we learned any, have you learned anything about the motivations of this shooter? Why did he do this? Why did he drive across the country and carry out this brazen attack in Washington? Well, the investigation is still ongoing, and we're allowing our partnership with the FBI and DOJ to continue to reveal all of the sources of motivation, but we do believe this individual when they came into the country. We know he was unvetted. He was brought into the country by the Biden administration through Operation Allies Welcome, and then maybe vetted after that, but not done well based on what the guidelines were put forward by President Biden. And now, since he's been here, we believe he could have been radicalized in his home community and in his

Starting point is 00:55:11 home states. So as we continue to talk to his family and his contacts, more details will be revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate. Okay. So the message is he was radicalized in his home, Washington. So Washington's on deck. I'll give you the rundown on that. Okay. The thinking goes as follows. And this is being rolled out. It's a good clip because it catches it in real time. But the thought is, oh, yeah, well, we got these guys. We got these guys. We vetted him and we gave him a bunch of money and they're going to then cut them loose after two years expecting them to be on their own. They're going to do fine. But they couldn't make it.

Starting point is 00:55:51 They couldn't make it because it was too tough. And so they ended up getting caught up with bad actors here within the country. And they and those guys and the bad actors flipped them. Is there a huge Afghan community in Washington? In Bellingham, Washington. Ah, you sound like it's true. I don't think so. No. By maybe there is. I don't know that there is.

Starting point is 00:56:17 Let's find out. Washington State is a racist state that is very few little enclave. It's not like Minnesota where you have that enclave of Somalians or Sudanese. And no, not that I know of. I mean, it's possible. Call Mimi. Ask her. She'll know. No, she's here and she doesn't, she's never heard of such a thing. Okay. All right. We'll go on to the. radicalization part with Christy. But you just said that he was radicalized here in the United States.

Starting point is 00:56:47 So is our understanding that the issue, his intent, happened here? This was not something he came to the United States with an intent to carry out of attacks like this? Well, we know that when Joe Biden left the White House, he left us with a 1.5 million cases. This is all anti-democrat now at this point. At this point, it's like, good luck. Democrats, Democrats, Joe Biden, he did it. Democrats case backlog in asylum claims and individuals are required under us law and under policy us law what she said under law no she said us law I think she's reading a script listen oh US law

Starting point is 00:57:28 and she said us yeah listen again it's backlog in asylum claims and individuals are required under us law and under policy she said under us law she misreads the script So she says us instead of U.S. law. Yeah. Because there's a big difference between saying us law. I would think so. She's reading a script. Okay, yeah, you're absolutely correct.

Starting point is 00:57:54 You're right again. Wow. Please go back to the old John and say, I can't argue that with you. This is a great, that's a great catch. She's scripted and they're trying to pin everything on bite. There's a logical, problem here, which they have not addressed in any way, shape, or form. Okay, he's in Bellingham, Washington, of all places. He's flipped somehow because he was a CIA trainee, and he was part of

Starting point is 00:58:25 some group in Afghanistan, but he's been flipped. And instead of taking care of business, either locally or someplace within earshot, he drives all the way to Washington, D.C. to randomly shoot randomly shoot two specific people outside of a, you know, basically a subway station or subway stop. You get out, you walk up the steps and there's a couple people there. You shoot them. This is no, no. No. Sorry.

Starting point is 00:59:00 Maybe he met you better fill in the blanks a little better than that. Maybe he got on the wrong plane. He thought Washington was where he lived. I don't know. Maybe he's one of those stupid people. Let's listen to us law again. Well, we know that when Joe Biden left the White House, he left us with a 1.5 million case backlog in asylum claims. And individuals are required under us law and under policy to check in every single year when they have asylum in this country.

Starting point is 00:59:29 And that wasn't being done. These individuals that were brought in were brought in and then vetted on information that was gathered by the Biden administration that wasn't throw. And so now we're completely changing that since President Trump has been in the White House. And since I've been at DHS, we're using biometric information. We're using those social media platforms and looking at what they're saying and doing. And making sure that we have a government, when a country is sending us someone, we have a government that is stable in that country that can actually share information with us. How do we vet someone that comes from Afghanistan or Somalia or Yemen?

Starting point is 01:00:04 if they don't have a government that we can communicate with that will share information with us. And so that is one of the prerogatives and one of the priorities that we're putting on these countries if they want to continue to send us people that want to claim asylum. Okay. So I don't think this is a DHS op. I think DHS, Christine Nome in particular, is being given a script to put the Yemenis and the Somalis on point. Remember, Trump said, he's a dope. He's a dope. We got some. Somalian. So this is never let a crisis go to waste moment here. Like, oh, okay. Well, this sucks. However, now we can go after those Somalis because they're a pain in the ass too. That's what I'm smelling here. And that's why I'm, I can't disagree with this. I'll go back to my old waist. Thank you. I feel much more comfortable. As you should. And now we go to CBS, CIA broadcasting systems. And I say that because they bring on.

Starting point is 01:01:03 used to be. Well, they bring on Samantha Vinognegrad. Vinegrad. She's like a salad dressing, Vinegrad. Vinaigrad, yes. She was a Vinaigred. Vigred. I think they actually say Vinaigred. She was the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security for Counterterrorism, threat prevention, and law enforcement policy for the Biden administration. What a title. But listen to her career. Vinegrad joined the U.S. Department of the Treasury, working is a deputy attache to Iraq as an international economist. Oh, that was during George W. Bush. Then 2009, Obama, she suddenly becomes, she has tenure at the National Security Council,

Starting point is 01:01:50 worked for Donnellin. Then she ejects, she goes to Goldman Sachs. She works at Stripe, which is good, because if we ever need something, we can call Vinegrette, leading global public policy before joining CNN as a national security analyst. Then she was a senior advisor at the Biden Institute at University of Delaware,

Starting point is 01:02:15 worked as advisor for the U.S. Fund for UNICEF, named the David E. Rockefeller Fellow at the Trilateral Commission, a Millennium Fellow at the Atlantic Council, and serves on the board of the Women Foreign Policy Group and co-founded global opportunity advisors, a geopolitical risk and policy. She's a very, very, very busy lady. Let's talk to Ms. Vinegrad.

Starting point is 01:02:40 For more on the vetting of the suspect before he entered the country, we are joined now by Samantha Vinaigrad, who is a former top counterterrorism official at the Department of Homeland Security under President Biden and was deeply involved in the process for screening and vetting. She is now a national security contributor here at. CBS News. Sam, so good to have you with us. Just this morning, the Attorney General said that this suspect entered the U.S. with minimal to little vetting. Is that accurate? Well, Nancy, I'm happy to talk about the vetting, but at this point, we don't have indications that the horrific tragedy was a result of a vetting failure. Instead, the attorney general also said this morning, it appears the individual was radicalized once here.

Starting point is 01:03:24 And let's be clear on what the vetting system is and what it isn't. The vetting system is a system in which an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric information, iris scans. Their biographic information, what, you got to show them their, your wiki page? I think she meant biometric. I think so too. Biographic. And let's be clear on what the vetting system is and what it isn't. The vetting system is a system in which an individual's identifiers,

Starting point is 01:03:51 their biographic information and biometric information. No, not necessarily. No, she might have met biographic. Hey, she is a spook. The vetting system is a system in which an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric information, iris scans, fingerprints, facial images, are run against data sets of information about individuals with ties to terrorism and criminal history. The vetting system is not predictive of whether an individual with no

Starting point is 01:04:19 derogatory information is it or is not at some point going to become violent. What I can tell you is this, and I was involved in the process. Every Afghan evacuee underwent vetting overseas before they were clear to be manifested for a flight to the United States. They underwent vetting once they were manifested for a flight at a port of entry before entering the United States. And then Afghan evacuees, including the suspect, were vetted again once in the U.S. by the Biden administration. And this suspect underwent the most comprehensive vetting under the current administration when he applied for asylum.

Starting point is 01:04:54 That process would typically involve an interview and a review of social media handles. Social media handles. My goodness. We're like Britain now all of a sudden. She's going to finish it up here. What can you tell us about these so-called zero units that the suspect was a part of in Afghanistan? He worked with the CIA for years, right? He did, which means that he was vetted by the CIA prior to beginning work in the zero unit,

Starting point is 01:05:20 which was a paramilitary and intelligence force that partnered with the CIA incredibly closely on some very intense missions. So this suspect reportedly underwent vetting by the CIA for the first time over a decade ago. He had highly specialized training. He did undergo vetting at the time that he started working with the CIA and went on some very complex missions. These units were accused of certain human rights abuses. Yeah, they're mercenaries. They're Merks.

Starting point is 01:05:47 She's talking out of her butt here. Like, oh, yeah, get a CIA. The CIA guys are always available to talk, but now you can't get one for some reason. They got one. She is one. Well, yeah, okay. So she's doing her own messaging. There is going back to Christy Nome with Manhans' well.

Starting point is 01:06:06 or there's a little problem with the vetting in the asylum process. Well, but just to be very clear, I want to go back to what happened on the Trump administration's watch. He was extensively vetted in order to serve alongside U.S. service members as a part of the CIA trained strike force. But in terms of what happened on the Trump administration's watch, just to be very clear, what vetting did the Trump administration do before giving this suspect asylum? How do they know all this? All we have is a photocopy of some ID that looks muddy. This is all, to me, this is all a distraction to keep you from asking the question I just asked a while ago. Why did this guy come all away from Bellingham, Washington, supposedly driving?

Starting point is 01:06:54 They never see, what's this car look like? They don't talk about any of that. No. What was it found in the car? We don't know. No. They don't talk about any of that because he could have flown out for all we know on a C-130. and comes in and randomly shoots two guardsmen out of the blue

Starting point is 01:07:10 for no apparent reason and just picks two out of the blue and he could have shot people, he could have gone to Portland, a little shorter drive. There's plenty of military there. He could have gone anywhere. He could have gone to the local Air Force base. And how come we don't have a picture of his driver's license

Starting point is 01:07:26 or of his social media handles? All I see is this muddy photocopy thing that's saying, it's him. Yeah, you're right. it's muddy. Why is it such a crappy copy? And that's what they're bringing it, this vetting, vetting, vetting, vetting, and Trump's vetting. It's like there's a missing piece of this puzzle and it has something to do with why he went all the way from Bellingham somehow got to Washington, D.C. and shot two

Starting point is 01:07:53 people. And if it was, were they targets? Where there's some, I mean, there's something missing here and it's big. A vetting process, Kristen, happens when the person comes into the country. Biden completely did not vet any of these individuals, not vet this individual, waited until he got into the United States. And then that application for asylum was opened under the Joe Biden administration when he was the president in the White House and allowed that to go forward with the information that they provided. That's the Biden administration's responsibility. This is the consequences of the dangerous situation he put our country in when he allowed those people to infiltrate our country during that abandonment of Afghanistan. And that's why I'm so grateful. We have a president now that isn't going to allow it to happen, that he now has put in

Starting point is 01:08:40 place measures under his watch at the Department of Homeland Security that we are bringing in new information on vetting, new information to use, such as what do they do on Facebook, what do they do on TikTok and other social media platforms, who are they talking to, who are their conversations with? And we use their biometric data information now to track to make sure they are who they say they are and they're here for their right intentions. Boy, she's got to get through the script. Can I stop for a second here? Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 01:09:10 Does everybody who comes into the country from Afghanistan all of a sudden they have to be on TikTok and Facebook? No, no. This makes no sense to me. It makes perfect sense to me. This is the beginning of the digital ID that Christy Noem personally is pushing very hard with I have in some clips that I'll get to later. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 01:09:36 I think you're right. Digital ID is part of this issue. The back, it's kind of a back, a sub-story. It's a subtext. Yep. Digital ID, also digital currency is a subtext. Yep. And I think there's another one that's coming up, which I'll discuss when I get to these clips.

Starting point is 01:09:54 So we'll end the Manhans Welker. She brings on Senator Mark Kelly, and he knows what this is all about, of course. Joining me now is Democratic Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona. Senator Kelly, welcome back to meet the press. Good to be on. Thank you. It's wonderful. I'll have you back after a really significant week, and I do want to start with the National Guard shooting. You, of course, served in uniform. You know firsthand the impact, the devastation of gun violence. You just heard Secretary Nome defend President Trump's decision to, quote, permanently pause migration from all third world countries. What is your response to how President Trump is handling this?

Starting point is 01:10:31 Well, let me start by saying what happened to the two guardsmen, Andrew Wolfe, Sarah Bexstrom, horrific. And it shouldn't happen. And I'm praying for him and for her family. It was a horrible, horrible thing. And there needs to be an investigation and accountability. But when I heard the secretary say that they're going to pause immigration from third world countries, I mean, I take that as a message that they don't. want brown people coming to the United States. And I find that disturbing. Donald Trump hates brown people. That is the answer. No, Senator Markelly. Now, this was used. Not that guy. This, this horrible attack was used immediately to strengthen the ongoing Islam op, which is taking place, which seems to be emanating from Texas currently, mainly. Yes, this is a good point. Yeah. And

Starting point is 01:11:31 And who in Texas would possibly, why would they have a concern because they have this, of course, these phony, all of a sudden there's all these mosques that are cropping up and they're going to build the meadow, which is going to be an enclave of Sharia law. Yes, yes, yes. And all the rest of them. Yeah, we've heard this. And I understand that you had a dinner recently. Well, here's everybody is hair on fire for Islam because it's doing the rounds and there's great concern. about Sharia law, it's going to be Sharia law on the schools, Sharia law on the streets, Sharia law and your H-O-A. Well, that's always been, no, wait, that's always been Sharia law. H-O-A's nothing new there.

Starting point is 01:12:16 They are Sharia law, yes. If you're in an HOA, you're in Sharia law. Why people have put up with this is beyond me, but okay, but okay, go ahead. So, Kara, so all of this stems from one major source, which has been seeding the airwaves in Texas, and that is General Michael Flynn. And he was on Alex Jones. I have two pertinent clips from that.

Starting point is 01:12:44 Oh, this would be good. But we need to first listen to the follow-up after the 20 minutes that Flynn did just earlier this week on Info Wars with Alex Jones, one of his famous in the car talk. Two weeks ago, on my syndicated broadcast, General Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, predicted that in the coming months or even weeks, the deep state CIA elements, ally of the Democratic Party, with communist China, Venezuela and others, would begin triggering sleeper cells inside the United States, particularly Islamic. All posts the interview below. She was on my broadcast yesterday and pointed out that all the evidence is clear.

Starting point is 01:13:31 We've also had whistleblowers that have talked to Jesse Waters and others at Fox from inside the CIA that this whole program with the seditious six and the script they admit they were given, Brennan's the handler, the former head of the CIA from my analysis. Okay, so let's just stop right there. And by the way, I'm very annoyed with myself because I had this clip a couple of weeks ago and I didn't put it on the show. No, this is not a couple weeks ago. Well, no, it's recent. No, this is just.

Starting point is 01:13:59 Whenever I saw this clip, because I saw it. I said, oh, this is great for the show, and then I never did anything. You made a mistake. You texted the link to me. Oh, did I send it to you? Yes, huge mistake. Because then I win the clipboard. That was a huge blunder.

Starting point is 01:14:14 What am I thinking? I don't know. Then it was out of year. You're on a roll and you got it nailed. Besides that, you're the Texas Nexus. Yes, it's right here. It's right down the street. So now his analysis, and I love Alex, but his analysis, I couldn't buy him analysis.

Starting point is 01:14:30 He says Brennan is the handler. Brennan did the seditious six script. John C. DeVorek, go. Seems unlikely. There's a couple of things going on when there's this group that I mentioned in a newsletter, New Politic, which seems to have everybody in that group as poster childs. But this has got Schumer. I don't care what anybody thinks Schumer's written all over this thing,

Starting point is 01:14:58 that's the point, especially that don't give up the ship, which is an old phrase that only somebody that is old as Schumer would even think of or think of it's applicable. It's got nothing to do with ships. And this is just Schumer and his, you know, running the running his side of the game to get the Democrats to win. It's all about the midterms. There's nothing about any. Yeah, you can yell and scream and pull your hair out over Sharia law and all the rest of it. But this is just to get the Democrats in and Schumer's behind. did. Totally agree. And I'm not blaming Alex for thinking this because the way he thinks is

Starting point is 01:15:35 Brennan is a Muslim. You and I know that. Brennan loves Islam. And so therefore it has to be Brennan and he's setting it all up. This whole operation they've been running of saying, implying Trump's putting out illegal orders, is ahead of major events to destabilize the United States with different paramilitary forces. And then when Trump tries to call to military, the corporate media would already pre-planted the idea that his orders are illegal. This is sedition. This is the prep phase for a violent coup, and I've been predicting it along with General Flynn as well. Yeah, for years.

Starting point is 01:16:11 This is a very, very serious time right now. And now we know, as you see below, it's been released by CIA Director Ratcliffe. Laura Logan has posted the information, and she's got incredible intel connections. I'll just leave it at that. This guy was part of a CIA strike force. and that's what his ID says in Afghanistan. And, of course, her husband's been deployed over there for forever and was a leading commander. And there's also a very good source of information on that front.

Starting point is 01:16:40 So this is a major message to Trump. This is a probe. This was just literally hundreds of feet away from the fence at the White House. And there's going to be more of this. So people better get ready. It's very, very, very, very serious. So I love my neighbor. I really do.

Starting point is 01:16:55 I love my neighbor. and her husband, very, very important guy. Her husband is the guy who tells everyone the grid's going to go down and J.FK. Jr. is alive. And don't forget that the, that the German shutdown was going to last until Christmas. Yeah, 90 days, 90 days, 90 days. It was 90 days and the next day it ended. Yes. The next day.

Starting point is 01:17:17 So before I get to my neighbor, first we'll go to General Flynn, who was setting all of this up. And Flynn is the op, man. He is the op. He is the op. You know, I'm looking back on Flynn. Flynn was a submarine a bunch of things before he even got to be head of DEI. I'm sorry, the defense, the DIA. Sorry, the DEI.

Starting point is 01:17:43 What's wrong with you? I've been brainwashed. So the defense intelligence, before he became the head of it, he was already causing trouble. And then when he got into the, the first Trump administration, it was one, I had to take this, give credit to, I think it was Mad Dog Maddish or one of them, or Kelly maybe before him. I can't remember the, but they got rid of him as fast as they could. They out, Trump wanted him as an intelligence guy in the White House. And they roused that guy so fast that it was like, it was phenomenal. And I had mixed

Starting point is 01:18:20 feelings about it to this day because he, I thought he might have been doing a good job, but over time with you running into him and then watching this go on, I'm glad they did. So here he is spouting off on AJ about fifth generation warfare. This is it. So what do we need? We need a couple of things. Number one, we need the Oval Office to throttle. And I mean, throttle down on on this idea of information operations and understand that we are in the middle of what is called unrestricted warfare. Unrestricted warfare is where there are, it is boundless what you can do. And it comes out of, and you've talked a lot about this, Alex.

Starting point is 01:19:01 Alex, it comes out of the Chinese manual back in the late 90s, you know, which I've read that a bunch of times. I've written a manual myself on Fifth Generation warfare. A manual. He literally wrote a manual. I actually have a copy of it somewhere. This like sciops. What are they?

Starting point is 01:19:19 That's his manual. It is, unrestricted warfare is without bounds. That is what we are in the midst of right now, and everybody needs to understand that. So you're talking full spectrum, full spectrum war. That's right, full spectrum. I mean everything. You're talking about the idea of illegal exploitation of different commodities, human beings, drugs. We're talking about false, false, you know, action, flags.

Starting point is 01:19:48 and false flags when it comes to economic warfare, right? You say you're going to do something and you do just the opposite. Now, this is interesting because he's not on Trump's team. I'm not sure who he's actually, what team he's playing for, but this next part proves that to me. It's the whole idea about using the information like TikTok. Trump will sit there, and I hope he's listened to this. Trump will sit there and go, gee and I just had a great call,

Starting point is 01:20:16 and we're going to do the following thing. Well, when Trump hung up, he has a duty, which he does, he tells the American people. Xi and I just had a great call, and we're going to do all these great things, and we're going to have trade deals, and we're going to do TikTok and blah, blah, blah, blah, and we're going to 600,000 students for the next couple of years from China. Xi, Xi hangs up and tells his team, great, we got exactly what we want out of them. We're going to triple down. We're going to quadruple down, and we're going to continue to screw the United States of America. That's how they operate, Alex. They don't operate like Donald J. Trump operates because he, as you said, he does have a duty to preserve the Constitution of the United States.

Starting point is 01:20:55 He has a duty to inform our country and the people of our country because we're a democracy. We're a republic. And so he's trying to be as transparent as he can be. But trust me, we are not dealing with an even hand here. So I don't know who he's working for, but that was not nice towards the president. I mean, it may be true, but it's not. Yeah, it makes it seems like it sounds like. He knows what's going on in the president's night.

Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, exactly, exactly. So now we go to the neighbor, Lara Logan. Her most recent episode, she has on Jim Simpson. Jim Simpson wrote the book about, well, you'll hear what it is. Who? It's Jim Simpson. It's Jim Simpson. Don't you know Jim?

Starting point is 01:21:41 No. No, of course not. No one's ever heard of Jim Simpson. But he wrote the book on the Marxist, Islamist access. So now you kind of... Oh, this is a big... We talked about it on the show.

Starting point is 01:21:53 I've mentioned this is what the insiders all, you know, this is the Marxist. Yeah. The old commies. Yeah, yeah. But it's old commies, new playbook. It's all about the midterms. Welcome back to the program.

Starting point is 01:22:07 Okay. Our guest today is someone I have known for a number of years now. He caught my attention with his written work as an author. and some of your film work, Jim, because you've been in a couple of films along with the great Trevor Loudon. You are one of the early voices, Jim Simpson,

Starting point is 01:22:28 in figuring out how mass migration was being used as a tool of Marxists and communists to invade the United States of America and Western countries around the world. And then, of course, how Islamic immigration has been used as a cover by the Marxists, which led right to one of your more recent books over the last few years, the red-green access and how to understand it.

Starting point is 01:22:54 I have now added to that. I'm sure I'm not the only one other people who have added the red-green blue access to that to include the globalists and how we're being played and how these forces around us really work. So here's Jim now. He's going to tell us what this is about. What I think he's saying is the Democrats use Islamists, to bring in their Marxist ideas.

Starting point is 01:23:19 Mamdani, Geron, Mandani. Well, you know, it's very interesting because we've been talking, we've been hearing a lot in the news lately about the red-green alliance, they call it. And, you know, I was taken from the red-green axis, the two books that I wrote on it. But it's really not so much an alliance as it is. the communists using the Islamic radicals and the, frankly, the Muslim Brotherhood and the entire Islamic movement, the entire radical Islamic movement, including Islamic terrorism, they've been using them as cutouts for continued war against the West with plausible deniability and people don't get that part now it's absolutely true that you know the

Starting point is 01:24:22 Islamists that want to see sharia law imposed in the United States and elsewhere in the West many of them are very serious about that but a lot of the leaders and I include Zoran Mamdani in that category are actually communes and they're using Islamism as a cover. There you go. So the whole op here is be afraid. What? Well, I was going to mention something,

Starting point is 01:24:56 which is he uses red-green alliance to indicate this Muslim communist thing, which he, I guess, put in his book. But he says it's widely used. It's not. No. This is bull crap. Red-green. And in fact, I just looked it up while you were playing that.

Starting point is 01:25:12 The term red-green alliance typically describes a political alliance of coalition involving red parties such as social democrat and green environmentalists. What's the environmentalist got to do with Sharia law? This is just rebranding. He's just rebranding on the fly. We need to bring another actuarine. This is co-opting. He's trying to take the term and give it to himself and then make it green. It somehow means Muslim.

Starting point is 01:25:40 I don't see that. No. It's not going to work. Well, bring in another actor, Laura Lumer. She posts the day before yesterday on her, after the, after the attack, of course. We had these, uh, the attack in D.C. Urgent intelligence alert with, with flashing lights, uh, emojis. Ooh.

Starting point is 01:26:01 NCTC National Counterterrorism Center confirms Al Qaeda presence on U.S. soil imminent multi-city Islamic terror attacks. So now we have Laura Lumer, we have Laura Logan, we have Alex Jones, we have General Flynn, it all kind of comes down to the sleeper cells, and she says this. Sources tell me tonight that the National Counterterrorism Center has officially determined that Islamic terrorists affiliated with al-Qaeda have infiltrated U.S. soil and are actively planning a series of coordinated Islamic terror attacks. This marks the first time federal counterterrorism officials have openly acknowledged the

Starting point is 01:26:40 immediacy of such threats, signaling a potential escalation and domestic jihadist activity not seen since the height of ISIS-inspired plots in the mid-2010s. She goes on and on on. My sources tell me the attack strategy by al-Qaeda is designed to sow confusion and crippled emergency response. These terrorists have been purchasing large quantities of police and first-responder uniforms from surplus outlets and online vendors in at least five states. These acquisitions trace through.

Starting point is 01:27:10 bulk credit card anomalies and CCTV footage suggest a plan to impersonate law enforcement during the assaults allowing attackers to blend in direct panic crowds or even execute secondary strikes on fleeing victims. So blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The plot's mass scale points to simultaneous strikes across multiple cities, be afraid, echoing al-Qaeda's historical ambitions from mass casualty operations like 9-11, but adapted for urban guerrilla tactics. Targets could include soft sites such as crowded events, transportation hubs, and public gatherings.

Starting point is 01:27:46 We are under attack! Okay. So she links to a page on the NCTC's website, where they indeed say, al-Qaeda's recent calls to conduct attacks in the U.S. highlights its enduring threat to public safety. So I'm like, oh, well, maybe she's not full of crap. Scope.

Starting point is 01:28:09 This product is intended to inform federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial government, law enforcement, and first responders of al-Qaeda's recent calls for attacks against the United States. So here's what they got it from. Al-Qaeda's resurgence of calls for attacks in the homeland highlights its persistence and enduring threat to the country, U.S. officials and public safety. al-Qaeda and its Yemen-based affiliate al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, been waiting for those guys to come back, the only affiliate to have successfully enabled attack in the homeland,

Starting point is 01:28:42 are likely seeking to leverage their media publications and global conflicts, particularly whether there is U.S. support or military involvement to inspire potential attackers. And here's their proof. In mid-July, 2025, al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula released the, 10th edition of its English language Inspire magazine. They've brought this back. The CIA magazine.

Starting point is 01:29:11 They're literally bringing back Inspire magazine. Yeah. Which is a magazine. It's like wired for Islamists, for jihadists. It's the we have been through this so many times. It's the stupidest thing. So this is an op

Starting point is 01:29:27 on all sides. And then Alex Jones takes it to the limit as he brings in something new we can all tweet about. The same globalist Black Rock Obama John Brennan coup that's been absolutely exposed trying to overthrow our republic is now trying to launch a military uprising that will come after some catalyzing false flag event. General Flynn, the former head of defense intelligence agency, he's been warning of this. I've been warning of this and there's really few others that have studied or understood it

Starting point is 01:29:59 for whatever reason, and then go read the Podesta plan and seeing them execute every piece of it. So the focus is on this statement telling the military, you know, don't follow orders, basically. You can argue that's free speech, but not who produced it, not who gave them the script, and it's Brennan, we know. And then they now admit they were giving a script. We know. And it's this continuum of crossfire hurricane and Arctic frost and all the fake impeachments meant to undermine a duly elected government. That is treason. That is seditious conspiracy.

Starting point is 01:30:31 So he brings it back to a favorite, which is the Podesta Plan. The Podesta Plan. This has all been planned. This attack is imminent. It's a color revolution inside the United States. All organized by Brennan. We know it is.

Starting point is 01:30:46 It's a fact. Here's Alex Jones explaining the Podesta Plan on Tucker Carlson. What is the Podesta Plan? When I talk about this, I get chills because of 2020. Right Bart wrote about it. The Daily Caller wrote about it. But the New York Times wrote about it first. He comes out of this huge report. They publish the whole thing. And I read like this, it was like 70 pages or something. And they say, if Trump wins in

Starting point is 01:31:13 2020, this is in August, months before, which they were able to steal it so he didn't. He said, we're going to have Western states to seed. We're going to have blue cities to seed. But we'll start with the Western states, California, Oregon, and Washington. And we'll call it over migrants and sanctuary cities and health care at first, which they're now doing. I'm getting chills because it's all happening. You go to a play and you're reading, oh, the next act is this.

Starting point is 01:31:34 And Romeo and Juliet, I mean, it's all right there. Oh, it's an act all right. And they say, if he wins, we will say it's illegitimate. We will have blue states first secede and that they're going to be sanctuary cities for the illegals. Then when there's civil unrest, which they'll furnish, Trump will send the National Guard, and then there'll be a massacre of the migrants.

Starting point is 01:31:54 and then we will kick off a civil war, then all the blue cities across the country will secede, the New York, Massachusetts, and others will succeed, and we'll form what we call the Western Alliance, and we will then, the U.S. military will be with us as they control the generals, people that think that, don't think otherwise your, there was Trump's been a mistake he found out.

Starting point is 01:32:15 Most of them are globalists at the top, not your enlisted, they're great people, and that they would then form a military alliance, if Trump didn't stand down, and they would march on D.C. Yes, so the Podesta Plan, as published by the New York Times, I read it from 2010, the power of the president, recommendations to advance progressive change outlines Democratic president, which of course was Obama, could use executive authority to implement progressive priorities like climate action, immigration reform, and labor rights without relying on a hostile Congress. this thing there's nothing in it about any of the things Jones just said unless he's he's read

Starting point is 01:32:59 something that the New York Times didn't publish but I'm not familiar with any of it and it was really just you know liberal raise the minimum wage expand protections for undocumented immigrants executive orders to reduce carbon emissions but oh no no no this thing is so real they made a movie about it, remember? And then they made a movie produced two years ago. They released last year called Civil War. That is the last act of the Podesta Plan. That's in a two plus year civil war race-based.

Starting point is 01:33:32 At the end, they go and, you know, the black female sergeant kills the Trumpian figure in the White House. And that's because evil white people are out massacring brown people across the country. So the U.S. military reconvenes under Gavin Newsom's command type. And then they come in and then they take over the country. and then they re-educate all the evil right-wingers and evil white people. I love my neighbor. I love Alex.

Starting point is 01:33:56 This is bull crap. This is utter bull crap. So don't get spun up over this. This is just about the midterms. It's connecting some Islamic fear over 48 mosques in two years in Texas, which is a total op from Abbott. you know, anything. It will do anything we can. And these two guardsmen are dead.

Starting point is 01:34:23 You will use that one too. Oh, yeah, they're everywhere. So I don't, you're right. This really does cover up the real question. Why did this guy go from Washington State to Washington, D.C.? And, of course, it's horrible what he did. Why was he naked? I want to know that.

Starting point is 01:34:44 Yeah, I didn't even know that part. But this is, this is all. all about linking Democrats to Islamic jihadists. That's really all this is. And it's kind of pathetic. I don't think so either. It may work in Texas to get people to make sure you get up. Well, I don't work in Texas, but Texas is not the place where it needs to work.

Starting point is 01:35:06 No. Because they're already a red state. Yes. I'm with you. The whole thing. So it's like you're running a op on yourself. Well, that's a, there's why. move. Well, I'd like to know who Flynn is working for. That's the thing I don't, you know,

Starting point is 01:35:23 it also seems to be a bit about this America first. How about this? He's just, how about this? He's just delusional. No, no, no, no, no. You think he's actually, I saw him. When I met him, he's looking for a bigger wallet. He looks right through your head to see if there's a big wallet on the other side of you. That's, and that's just my perception. Um, you know, like, oh, what can this guy from me Podfather? No, podfather, nothing. I want Daddy Warbucks. That's what it felt like to me.

Starting point is 01:35:56 So this has to be part of this sub-narrative of the national divorce, you know, the MAGA, Civil War, the breakup, America First. There's ops running every, and they're probably running counter to each other. But it sounds like he's on the America First team to say, well, you know, Trump's a good guy, Donald J. Trump. But he doesn't, he's smarter than him. Xi is just laughing in his, behind his back. So this is all about midterms and who comes after the Democrats win the midterms and they impeach Trump.

Starting point is 01:36:38 That's what it seems like to me. And along with that. Well, I mean, the impeaching is going to mean nothing because they're never going to get their votes in the Senate under any circumstance. So it's a complete waste of time. Well, no, they'll impeach him in the house. Yeah, they'll impeach him in the house. Yeah, well, that's what you do.

Starting point is 01:36:55 Yeah. But this just disables. It creates another new cycle of bull crap and they can't get anything done. So whatever is going to get done is going to get done before then. And there's nothing. The second two years of his term is going to be pretty much a disaster. If the Democrats have their way. And I see no evidence that they want.

Starting point is 01:37:16 The Republicans are blowing it. left and right. They're not, you know, accomplishing. I mean, they've done a lot, but mostly internationally. It doesn't, international stuff never affects the populace, a domestic voter. The domestic voters are happy with it, but as far as they're concerned, no, no, the prices are going up. No, they're not really going up.

Starting point is 01:37:38 Well, they are, yeah. They haven't gone down. He says we're going to make them go down. They never go down. That's called, you know, depression. Can't do that. Well, this is, like, this is set up poorly. They've done a lousy job of it.

Starting point is 01:37:53 Well, because you bring that up, we have Kevin Hassett, the, the Cheshire Cat, the guy who was so happy about 112,000 jobs and said, oh, this is great. This is a doubling. This is fantastic. He's the chair of the president's economic council. So he was now basically tapped to be the next chairman of the Federal Reserve. and CBS brought him on to question him about inflation and prices. I'm wondering how much of that spending increase you think is attributable to the fact that prices are up. Let me give you an example.

Starting point is 01:38:31 The maker of Tonka trucks said a couple days ago that a toy truck that costs $30 last year is going to cost $40 this year, partly because they lost about eight weeks of shipping due to the U.S. trade war with China. what's your advice to holiday shoppers who don't want to spend more this year than they did last year or can't afford to spend more? Right. Well, as you know, it depends on what you're looking at. Like egg prices are down. Gasoline prices drop below $2 a gallon in a lot of places.

Starting point is 01:39:01 You mean below? You mean below? The market rates are down. Gas prices on average are still at $3 a gallon across the country, right? For a few states, they got below two. And so the point is just that in the end, what matters is in the aggregate, the average, average across everything that everybody buys. And that averaged about 5% under Joe Biden and is a little bit above two and a half percent, about cut in half for President Trump. And the bottom

Starting point is 01:39:24 line, though, is really the wages have been growing faster than prices. That's why real incomes this year are up by about $1,200 so far. That's why we can have a great Black Friday and a great Thanksgiving sales weekend because people feel like they have more money in their pockets. Even though you're right, there are some things that cost more or some things that cost less. but on average, we're about half the inflation rate of Joe Biden. Now, just the question, do you think that's true? Do you know that to be true? I think it's generally true, but people keep ignoring the fact that inflation is cumulative.

Starting point is 01:39:57 Yes, it adds up. So if you have something cost $10 and then got jacked up to $20 and then the inflation drops to 2%, it's still going up in price and it doesn't go down from $20. It goes up. It keeps going up. It's always going up a little bit. the moon number go up so so you know they can't the promises can't be fulfilled you can't go back to the 10 bucks it just can't be done so kevin has it probably will be the next federal reserve chairman

Starting point is 01:40:26 unless he screw something up in the meantime because you know how trump is he'll change it on a dime and the markets love him bloomberg is reporting as i'm sure you know that you are now considered the frontrunner to replace fed reserve chair jay powell when his term expires in the spring Secretary Bessent, who is heading up this search, said he was holding final interviews this week. How did yours go? You know, I am not sure that Bloomberg has a story right. I'm really honored to be amongst a group of really great candidates. The thing that I was most impressed about this week with that story leaked was that really, I think the news for markets was that President Trump is close to announcing a new person who's going to replace Jay Powell.

Starting point is 01:41:10 And if you look at the market response to that, it was very, very positive. We had a great Treasury auction, interest rates went down. And so I think that the American people could expect President Trump to pick somebody who's going to help them, you know, have cheaper car loans and easier access to mortgages at lower rates. And that's what we saw in the market response to the rumor about me, which, you know, is probably about as valuable as the rumor about the health care policy that we just talked about. Well, I guess we'll find out if they're right sooner rather than later when we hear the president. decision. So for now, director of the White House National Economic Council. That's your title today. Kevin Hassett. Thank you so much. So I believe, again, if he doesn't mess something, he doesn't say something stupid, he'll be the next Fed chairman. He's going to bring interest rates down.

Starting point is 01:41:56 Not that it's just him alone, but he can spin. He can do a lot of work on that. And then add to that, I don't have a clip because, of course, why would anyone report on it? The Genesis Project, Do you hear about this? Maybe. It's the executive order, the president signed, and in essence said, okay, Department of Energy, you are now in charge of AI. Make AI. Oh, no, I did not hear this.

Starting point is 01:42:25 Oh, yeah. It's like AI, everything AI, excuse me. It makes sense. You know, the DOE is responsible for area 52 or 54, 59, whatever. Where the hell it is. 51. Yeah. Well, a buddy of mine works there in this side.

Starting point is 01:42:44 Area 51? No, in the Department of Energy. It's massive. So Department of Energy, what do you need for AI energy? Lots of energy. Oh, that makes sense. So this is your bailout. If we can't afford it, because you can't, we cannot have the markets, we can't have

Starting point is 01:43:03 the AI bubble pop here. Not yet. We can't. No, this would be. pop. No, it's going to pop, but it can't pop for, at least until 2027. We got to keep this thing going. So the Department of Energy will- I think you can hang in there for that long. They have to. They have to. Because our GDP depends on it. The MAG 7. This is all AI nonsense. And so if investors lose their appetite, and it's all about data centers and energy companies,

Starting point is 01:43:37 Department of Energy, hello. These guys will be throwing down small nuclear reactors fast and anybody can say it. Whatever we need, we're going to do it. We cannot, we cannot have any problems there. And this guy comes in. Well, it should get us cheaper energy for the public at large. It should.

Starting point is 01:43:56 It should. Operative words should. And then we- Let me get these clips out of it because there's one more little element I think at play. And this will be the best I can do for today. I can play him in the second half of show, but I don't think so. This is the homeless stuff. And I want to, it's four clips.

Starting point is 01:44:14 And I want to, just see if you can figure out the subtext. And you probably will, because I did. And, but you might or might not. But I think it's part of the laundry list of things like universal ID or digital ID, digital money and some other things. This, this is an, I believe to be an, PBS, It took it on, but it underlies, I think, another one of these subtext ops. Here we go.

Starting point is 01:44:44 The skyrocketing cost of living has left millions of people working at full-time jobs or a number of part-time jobs still unable to afford a place to live. Ali Rogan is back with her conversation with journalist Brian Goldstone, author of There Is No Place for Us about this growing nationwide crisis. Thank you so much for joining us. work, you've come to know many people who work, who may have more than one job, but have come into circumstances where they cannot afford to keep a roof over their heads. Certainly, each person has a unique story, but are there any common threads in their experiences that you've been able to identify? Trump.

Starting point is 01:45:27 Is not Trump? No. Trump, it's Trump. This common thread is Trump. We'll find out in the next clip. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I do argue in my book that in cities across America today, in one city after another, a low-wage job really is homelessness waiting to happen. And what they have in common is they all belong to the low-wage workforce. And it's not just that their wages are too low to keep up with the skyrocketing cost of having a place to live. It's also that the jobs themselves have become increasingly volatile and precarious, where they often don't know how many hours they're going to be getting from one week to the next. Their employers give them 29 hours a week because at 30 they would be eligible for basic benefits like health insurance or sick leave.

Starting point is 01:46:17 And, yeah, the cost of housing, rents are just very, very quickly outpacing what their incomes are. So that's kind of the backdrop that defines these people's existence. For a long time, the stereotypical perception of homelessness is that it is something that happens to people on the fringes of society. And that may have never been accurate. But what have you found out in your reporting about the reality of what it's like to be without a home? Yeah, I mean, one really astonishing truth about homelessness in America is that what we see on the street is really the tip of the iceberg. There's this entire world of homelessness that is out of sight, that has been rendered invisible. And within that shadow realm of homelessness, as I refer to it, it is overwhelmingly populated with people, again, who are part of the low-wage workforce, families with children.

Starting point is 01:47:19 And these are people who are working and working and working some more. And it simply is not enough to secure one of life's most basic necessities, a roof overhead. But universal basic income? Is that where this is going? Did I nail it? Did I nail it? Oh, yeah. Here we go. To be sure.

Starting point is 01:47:40 Wait, wait, let me just say a couple of things. First of all, this is the hardest thing to sell the American public because it's a form of redistribution of wealth. Yes. And so this began with Hands Across America in 1986. Oh, my goodness. I remember that. And so we're at the 40-year mark.

Starting point is 01:47:58 and this is this listening to this guy talk about homelessness is just being all about low wages and couldn't quite crank it over the hump kind of thing which brings to mine universal basic income I thought you might even catch you from the first clip but you caught it earlier I mean I was hoping you wouldn't get it at all but uh it's wishful thinking wait he has to bring in AI that AI is going to take everyone's job away no no they don't do anything that because this is a sales pitch for universal basic income even though they never mentioned it but i'm going to mention an anecdote mimi drove down from washington and uh she made a point of telling the story as thus she goes there's all these little places you can pull over to to uh

Starting point is 01:48:45 to rest rest spots it's called a rest rest stop next rest stop 15 miles this is your shot yeah you go in there so she says there's you all the way down through Washington State, all the rest stuff, because she stops a lot for, he's got a couple of dogs. And nobody. The places were dead empty. Dead empty. Really?

Starting point is 01:49:10 And all the ones in California, dead empty. Oregon. Every one of them, from the top to the bottom, were favelas. Not small favelas. Three, four hundred people, tents, camping, no place to

Starting point is 01:49:26 park, no place to rest. There was no way of doing it a rest stop. Oregon has turned all their rest stops into homeless encampments. Well, first of all, sadly, this is the state, the state of what's happening. And people, you need $28 an hour

Starting point is 01:49:46 to even be considered to be allowed to get a rental unit, which is a little bit on the high side. So I'm just recognizing how sad this really is. Yeah, favelas. Yeah. Your favorite. Yeah, but there's a true favela should be on the side of a hill.

Starting point is 01:50:05 If it's any good, if it's any good. The ones that I still see the city where the sign says south San Francisco, it's on the side of a hill, and it's empty, it's barren. It would be a great favela. It would add an impact to people driving into San Francisco because you couldn't miss it. You'd see it. It'd be. So you're going into San Francisco. You see the big favela.

Starting point is 01:50:26 Tourist attraction. And it's a shanty town, basically, and it would be, it would give you an indication of what's going on. You've been calling for this for years. You've been saying we need favelas for years. Yeah, I have. Because you can actually create a living with neighborhoods, gangs. They end up being run by criminals. But they're still well run.

Starting point is 01:50:51 They're managed well, typically, or they'd be burning down. They don't get, they don't get burnt down. I mean, Detroit got burned down in the late 60s. How bad was that managed? If the little city's not managed well, it gets burnt to the ground by the citizens. Right. And this doesn't happen in the favelas. And a good favela.

Starting point is 01:51:10 In a good favela run by, you know, it's sick but true. Okay, let's go to three. To be sure, in the richest nation on the planet, nobody should be without housing. But these pernicious myths and stereotypes that homelessness is just caused by addiction or it's just caused by mental illness, it really is not borne out by the reality on the ground. And indeed, often mental illness and addiction is a consequence of this form of insecurity, not its cause. Can you tell us a little bit about what the lives of the homeless workers are day in and day out? And also, do those lives get harder during the holidays?

Starting point is 01:51:53 I think it's really easy for what kind of a question is that so you're homeless is it worse during the holidays yes wow that's that's like that's just dumb she's a stupid person do those lives get harder during the holidays I think it's really easy for terms like the housing crisis or the homelessness crisis to become kind of abstract and to lose touch with just the acute human toll of this growing catastrophe in America. You know, what homelessness looks like today isn't just the person sleeping outside the parking lot of a convenience store or a Walmart or a Target. It's often the very cashier or worker stocking the shelves in those stores. And they often have children at the end of their shifts. They don't know where they're going to be going.

Starting point is 01:52:45 They have to tell their children, I don't know where we're staying tonight. Maybe they're sleeping in a car in that very parking lot. okay when when what is the closer here what are they going to do those are in the this is all just a softening blows there's no mention of universal basic income at all in these clips but that's so apparent to me and you obviously yeah that this is messaging to create the the environment for it and I think that do at because we're going to hit the 40 year mark next year when it when this became like a topic of conversation because beginning in 1986.

Starting point is 01:53:22 Was hands across America? What was the cause? What was that about? Homelessness. It was homelessness? It was specifically homelessness. You can look it up. In fact, I had a, I think I met the guy, this Kagan character, who started it at a Berkeley

Starting point is 01:53:40 dinner in 86, just before he did it. And I didn't realize he is also the guy that produced We Are the World, I think. Oh, really? Really? Yeah, he was a... But that was for Africa. Yeah, but then he turned his sights on his hands across America bit. And I remember him discussing it at the table, and I just thought it was deft.

Starting point is 01:54:06 And it wasn't going to work. Deft. It was crazy. Nets. Deft. I like deft. Deft. And, but it was marked the beginning of this whole 40-year cycle of softening up to public for

Starting point is 01:54:20 look, maybe this will do it. Ken Craigan? Yeah, you're right. Ken Craigan. Yeah, he did We Are the World. Huh. Yeah, he did hands across America. Yeah, for hunger and homelessness. Yeah. All right. All right. Number four. You know, there's a term that public health experts use to refer to the kind of stress that children and parents are exposed to in these circumstances. And that term is toxic stress.

Starting point is 01:54:49 This is stress that is so chronic, so debilitating, that it can fundamentally alter a child's long-term development. That is the human toll of this insecurity. And it is the consequence. It's the toll of what has happened when millions, not hundreds of thousands, but millions of families in this country have been flung into what a case manager in my book refers to as the housing hunger games. You've cited a number of deficiencies across all sorts of categories that are failing people. But what institutions here need to change? Are these, is this a failure of government, of industry, all of the above?

Starting point is 01:55:29 How do you see it? Yeah, I think it is all of the above. What I found in my reporting in the course of kind of immersing myself in the day-to-day lives of five families here in Atlanta where I live over a period of nearly six years, it's not just the housing system, which, you know, prioritizes profits above all. all else. It's not just work and jobs and wages that aren't keeping up with the cost of living. It's also other systems like health care, a lack of affordable child care, the education system, food insecurity. All of these systems sort of collide to make this human disaster, not just

Starting point is 01:56:08 possible, but in many ways predictable and inevitable. In the capitalist system, because, you know, Obviously, the people who were homeless and hungry in the 80s with hands across America, that eventually swings around get solved, like is happening right now in Austin, Texas, where homes that were purchased in 2022 are now 20% cheaper than they were then because everyone's leaving. It's not what they wanted. All the tech firms are firing people. these people would just transient anyway, and of course there's less illegal immigrants,

Starting point is 01:56:51 so these will go up for rent and that will be more affordable. Is that not kind of how the system works eventually? To a point except for the one missing factor here, which is the national takeover of as many houses as possible by Blackstone and Black Rock. Yes. Those guys are buying up houses left and right. And high part, they pay top dollar and they get these places. And I think the idea is they know universal basic income is coming.

Starting point is 01:57:25 They know people will be renting. They can have the houses under their umbrella and they will be renting out at not necessarily top dollar, but good profitable, good profitable monies. Best price. And this is all part of a grand scheme. And I think black rock and black stone. They're very much behind a universal basic income. It's no, as you'd say, there's no sweat off their balls. Well, that kind of goes along with the news that Coinbase is doing a pilot in New York called Future First, a basic income test with low income New Yorkers, age 18 to 30.

Starting point is 01:58:05 They'll be giving them a total of $12,000 in stable coin. which they then can use to pay directly with StableC, even the No Agenda Show takes U.S.D.C. if you want to support us. And you can, of course, convert it into other cryptos and into currencies. So these tests are underway again, but interesting now that it's Coinbase doing this, who is going to be a big player in the Stablecoin Gambit. So I think you're right.

Starting point is 01:58:39 I think this is a setup. state it still has something to do with stable coin now that we have the genius act passed that's all all going to start uncloking in the coming year and then regarding digital ID man we're Australia they just shut down everything social media including YouTube you got to be 13 or older I think it's 16 actually 16 or older no social media for you accounts are being closed the EU they're not messing around. When you listen to this lady talking about the EU just voted in a,

Starting point is 01:59:20 well, they voted in favor of a non-legislative report, so it's not legislation. But it will be, this is the setup for minimum age for social media, and it's all tied to a digital ID. Just listen to how she explains it. First and foremost, we need to create an environment online on the social media and in video games, et cetera, that if kids and young people should be that, it needs to be much safer than it is today.

Starting point is 01:59:48 And one of the ways we can make it safer is to say that we will ban the most addictive and harmful design features we see online. The thing that makes us scroll and scroll and scroll, I mean, the kids scroll and scroll and very difficult for them to put down the phone. We are not controlling the algorithms. The algorithms, they are controlled outside EU. the United States, in China. We want to control the people.

Starting point is 02:00:15 In the Middle East, but not in Europe. So we don't know. And our kids are being formed by these algorithms in their approach to each other, to commercial things, to how you interact, to democracy, et cetera. By the way, our kids are being formed the same way, lady, that just as retarded as your kids. And that's really a huge experiment. And we need to stop it.

Starting point is 02:00:41 We need to end that now. And here we go. And one of the ways we can do that is by saying, well, we need to have an age limit. And that age limit needs to be controlled so that we can make sure that at least the social media we know today, that it is not possible to access them until you're at least 13. We're saying 16 years old. And then if you want to go online before you need to have your parents' consent, we want to avoid a fragmented internal market.

Starting point is 02:01:07 And that's why we suggest a harmonized EU age. limit and give some systems that could be used to check it. But for us, it's very important. For the parliament, it's very important that the systems that would check the age needs to be privacy preserving. It needs to be accurate and it needs to be robust. And we will give you these systems. We will give you the systems to check your ID.

Starting point is 02:01:32 This is coming. They are going all in. And with their digital euro coming in 2027. I think it's inevitable. It is. It is. There's no other way. And the Internet brought it to us. Thank you, Internet. You know, I have this one clip, and it kind of gives me hope in a way. But the thing is, when we say the Internet, all people think about is the stupid phone, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, Blue Cry, blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 02:02:03 They must realize that we, as you say those words, we're doing this over the Internet. internet. And we're not on a platform. Although I did sign us up for Spotify. Okay. Well, you stay. Okay. Let me see. You can do that. Let me see. It's an experiment that's waiting to see what so we can. Well, it's an experiment. So I think it's worth doing. Yeah. Well, that's why we agreed I would do that. And this was to see, okay, we're still, they're still processing our show, which I think means they're not even going to let us on. Yeah. Yeah. You got music. You got music.

Starting point is 02:02:44 You got music in there. You can't be honest. People just have never been educated and understand that you don't need to use Microsoft's Windows or Mac. You know, you can build a Linux machine out a piece of crap hardware. It'll probably work better than your Windows 11 machine. That you can create your own website or there's so many different ways to communicate. And to express your feelings, your, I mean, Mastodon. Set up a Mastodon server if you want to.

Starting point is 02:03:18 The Fediverse. Fediverse. There's all kinds of ways where people are so, so bought into, this is, this is it. This is the system. And this is the internet, baby. This is it. But he's got my chat bots, my AI. They don't understand that the network itself is the beautiful thing.

Starting point is 02:03:36 And the whole reason that podcasting, the way we do it, no one can really stop us from doing that. I mean, even if, you know, somehow they, they went in, kidnapped Void Zero and pulled all the plugs, we're still on IPFSpodcasting.net, which is completely distributed. There's no way you can get rid of us. There's, you know, you have the Tor network. There's all kinds of ways that we can communicate that the government really can't do anything about. no government can really do like apaches apaches yeah patchy helicopter they can stop us both well okay yes they could stop us with apaches but they got to have a lot of apaches to stop everybody

Starting point is 02:04:18 and there's this gen zetter who i caught on tic-tok i'll admit i'm bringing in a tic-tac clip oh okay poacher you're being mean to me now you're calling me names Poacher. I'm the podfather the poacher. And I'm in one way happy about this. On the other hand, a little sad. But she's finally realizing that all these platforms suck. Nothing feels authentic anymore because everything is an ad. This week I've been writing about having ad fatigue. I have 29,916 unread marketing emails. When I go to watch a YouTube video, I have to watch three ads every minutes. Pinterest and Instagram is just one big sponsored post now. Every time a video goes viral, a major corporation is in the top comments acting like they're a Gen Z intern. Black Friday is somehow a month long and nothing's actually on sale. It just feels like around every corner now there is an ad lurking, waiting to capitalize off our attention, waiting to capitalize off of any real or genuine moment. The boundaries between human being and brand have become so blurred that it's difficult to

Starting point is 02:05:33 distinguish between the two. Brands act like people. online, people act like brands online. Influencers are people, but they're also living, breathing ads. Celebrities are also influencers and also brands as well. And regular people want to be influencers, so they will give recommendations and tag brands for free in order to one day be able to do a real ad. The internet is really the wild west of marketing. There is really infinite space to squeeze ads into. Our data is being bought and sold to hell and back, just to pelt us with marketing sometimes it feels as though we've signed a deal with the devil in order to use these things for free and now we will just have to spend the rest of our lives being marketed to

Starting point is 02:06:12 but now somehow on top of that we also have to pay subscription fees as well you want to hear more because she goes on for a bit here she's on a roll yes she's good and online everyone and everything can eventually be bought the unspoken goal of the internet is to reach monetization anything that reaches viral success or started off as like a genuine thing that people loved and enjoyed. She's not, she hasn't quite gotten to the, wait a minute, maybe I'm the product here. She hasn't quite heard that one. Eventually, we'll try to sell you something. At some point, everything becomes a vehicle for brands to sponsor or for celebrities to come on and promote something.

Starting point is 02:06:52 And a lot of the times, the platforms that we once genuinely enjoyed using like Pinterest, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, become so clogged up with ads. that it starts to feel like there are more ads than actual content. See, this is where it goes wrong. This is because it's free, free, it's all free, it's just free. The internet is free. No one ever taught these kids that there is no free lunch. Ain't no free lunch, kid.

Starting point is 02:07:17 I understand that we need ads to pay for things, but it reaches a certain point where it actually starts to interfere with the original purpose of the thing. No, no, the original purpose was always to use your data. to make money. And the end result is, I think it's just reached a point where it's infiltrated all of our culture and all of our lives. Musicians just feel like marketing projects now. We have respected actors doing delivery ads and starting liquor companies. Movies and TV shows start to feel like excuses for product placement and IP. And it's made everything feel like there's an ulterior motive because there is. But the irony of it all is, I don't remember the last time

Starting point is 02:07:56 an ad actually worked on me. If anything, if I noticed that a brand emails me too much, much or it shows up too much on my social media, I actually start to resent them. I buy most of my stuff secondhand because honestly, a lot of new stuff is just crap. Like, the quality is really bad because I think these companies spent all their budget on marketing. So maybe if everything is an ad, then nothing is actually an ad. Because honestly, I've just become so overwhelmed by the amount of people that are trying to make money off me that I'm just kind of numb to it all. Ah, I'm happy and yet sad somehow. I'm not quite sure why. well she's got some note of realization i don't know if she you're right she hasn't figured out that

Starting point is 02:08:37 she's the product in many cases and their data is no one taught her no one taught her this or the no free lunch thing is what do you expect yeah listen to your uncles adam and john we boomers know a thing or two we've seen enough ads in our life we've created and we'll say that we've created and that's one of the reasons we don't have ads on this show. We are value for value, and that is my cue to say I'd like to thank you for your courage, the man who put

Starting point is 02:09:08 the sea and can't afford the rent, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John. See, tomorrow. Yeah, the morning is you, the current of the chimps, in the water, and all the dames and nights out there. Yeah, in the morning to the trolls in the troll

Starting point is 02:09:28 rope. Stop moving around. Oh, actually surprising. 1,9007 for a for a Thanksgiving weekend. That's not too bad. I'm surprised. I'm very surprised. Although we'll whip right through the donations, that's for sure. Yeah, there's no donations.

Starting point is 02:09:47 Nobody gave us any donations. Oh, we got us a bunch of ads, man. We got no donations. We got plugs. Everyone's got a plug. Ah, speaking of plugs. I have something to say. You're getting hair plugs finally.

Starting point is 02:10:01 No, no, no, no. So I was very against the Warren, it was Senator Elizabeth Warren bull crap over the counter hearing aids. Oh, yes, yes, totally. And the main reason is I feel that you need. They're not hearing aids and they're not done by an audiologist. You need an audiologist to help you set it up. And I, my hearing, although it got much, much better after my oral surgery, my hearing just as, I'm just, I'm aging out, bro.

Starting point is 02:10:43 I'm just, I'm aging out. And so my hearing is not good enough. And, you know, before you know it, Tina's not going to talk to me anymore because I don't answer. So I had to hear her. What? So. Yeah. Exactly. And so I decided to try something new because my previous Ydex were very expensive.

Starting point is 02:11:08 Those were like over $5,000. Now, this is probably seven years ago, I think, eight years ago that I got those. So I decide, based on a tip for my friend, to try out Jabra. And the reason I was okay trying out Jabra, one, they've been around for a long time. They've been doing, you know, phone connections, mobile. headsets for, jeez, for longer than, for as long as the show's been around, I think. Remember the Jabra headset, the one of the first with that stick, stick microphone next to your mouth, that was the Jabra guys. And they have created an behind the ear with a little wire with a little receiver going

Starting point is 02:11:49 into your ear. And they give you three years of audiology appointment. So, and that's built into the price. Which is a big deal to you. which I think that's a valid commentary. So I was like, okay, and the price, $1,600 with a 100-day money-back guarantee. So I'm like, what do I have to lose? These things are amazing.

Starting point is 02:12:15 I mean, absolutely amazing. And I have just been enjoying my life so much with these hearing aids. They are proper hearing aids. Don't go for anything else because people always ask me, what hearing aids? These things are fantastic. I'm not getting paid by them. I paid for my hearing aids. But this is what we do.

Starting point is 02:12:39 And we love a product. We'll talk about it. If we don't, we'll talk about it, how crappy it is. Amazing. My life has changed. It has a... So wait a minute. You were giving nothing but grief to Elizabeth Warren and her

Starting point is 02:12:55 her being behind the changing of the definition of a hearing aid basically is what we're talking about. Yes. To a listening, you know, a listening enhancing device. Oh, they're all here. Everything is a hearing aid now.

Starting point is 02:13:10 And so you could sell these things over the counter without anybody helping you or anything. And you're moving. And now you're changing your tune? I am. The first few years was horrible. And, you know, she got the big money from Bose. And Bose has yet to come out with anything worthwhile.

Starting point is 02:13:28 I track this stuff all the time. And this miracle ear, no, no, no, no. I don't see any of that being any good. But when I saw these, I'm like, okay, I know Jabra. I've had Jabra headsets. The audiology, three years of a point. I'm like, yeah, okay, this is now you're talking something different. And this is high-tech stuff.

Starting point is 02:13:51 And I learned about ORACAST. Have you ever heard of ORACast? I have heard of them. So or a cat, so normally if you, so if you pair these, these hearing aids to a modern smartphone, which you can easily do, it's Bluetooth. It's low energy Bluetooth. And, but that's just, you know, it's just you and no one else can tap into that, obviously. Oracast is, I don't know when this came into being, but my new television happens to have it.

Starting point is 02:14:21 it's basically a transmitter that anybody can tap into, and they apparently are sending, you know, the people are placing these ORACAST transmitters everywhere, and you can connect to it right away, boom, you're done, you don't need passwords, no pairing, none of that stuff. Yeah, the LG sets all have these features. Yes, and it's been fantastic. Which is why we promoted the set, even though we got grief?

Starting point is 02:14:47 We got grief? Well, Mimi and one kid. how can you be promoting a thousand you're always having cheap products and next thing you know you get a thousand dollar television set you're saying is good it was that was pretty cheap for what it is what it is my first tv in 13 years used to have to pay two twenty five hundred bucks for a PC yeah really anyway back to the jabras even if you don't have hearing loss these things are amazing it's because you can get the closed uh domes so you plug them in your ear. It is just like having over-the-ear headsets on all the time that you can completely

Starting point is 02:15:26 control the sound. I'm a sound freak. So, I love the sound. You're using them as we speak instead at cans? No. I did, no, because the cans don't work with the hearing aids, but I did

Starting point is 02:15:43 order. It's like... I said instead of the cans. No, no, because I need an aura cast transmitter. It's like $35 bucks off of Amazon. So hopefully it'll come in before Thursday, I can try it out because it's the same concept. You're going to be uncomfortable without the cans. Well, maybe, maybe not. But I'll tell you something, I can hear my wife.

Starting point is 02:16:05 I can hear in the kitchen all the way from the studio. There's a downside to everything. Well, the downside is I'm speaking much softer in person. Oh, you're not screaming. Exactly. Yeah, she said, did you hear me? I said, yeah, I said, I'm coming. So now she can't hear me, so now I'll have to get her some jobbers.

Starting point is 02:16:26 Anyway, I don't know how I got to that other than, oh, we're talking about ads and value for value. So a good product, a very good value. It's worth it for your ears, particularly for men, because there's number one cause of depression and isolationism is when you can't hear properly. And you can take their little hearing test on the website. it's pretty decent. Yeah. So whether you're using hearing aids or not, you should be listening to us on a modern podcast app

Starting point is 02:16:59 because it doesn't look like Spotify is going to approve us. I don't think we're actually in there yet. Says processing. It's been doing it for 24 hours. Well, now they're getting picky. Okay. Well, good. We can say, well, they refuse to take our feed.

Starting point is 02:17:11 Yes. Our feed. Our open feed, man. Yeah. However, you can use a modern podcast app, which will give you all kinds of cool features. And even Podverse actually is built for accessibility. So if you have vision problems, Podverse does a very good job of that.

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Starting point is 02:17:58 who brought us the artwork for episode 1820. We titled That Tokyo Rose. And this was, I think, the best one for Thanksgiving that we could find, Abraham Lincoln carving a turkey with an American. Yeah, this was basically your pick, which I couldn't argue against. Yeah. You didn't agree, but you couldn't argue against. against it? I didn't like, I mean, I wish we had something better, but it was cute.

Starting point is 02:18:23 It was. I don't know what the point. You know, there's an Indian ready to kill Lincoln. I don't know what the reason for that was, but, uh, yeah, there wasn't a lot of things. I mean, everyone did some Thanksgiving stuff. Yeah, but they were all lame. They weren't really good. No, no. So I don't, I don't think we even contemplated anything else, did we? Oh, we, oh, yeah, we contemplated Jeffrey Ria's 3D soup can, but you might want to talk about the technical issues we had with it. Yeah, now, he's going to get irked by this. He had the curvature mapped on, you know, not perfectly, but pretty good for like for no agenda. And Curry and DeVore kind of wraps around the can like it, you know, like a, like it would be for a can.

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Starting point is 02:28:07 Okay. How can I say no? I can't. Two clips here. I got the, I got, this is actually a black woman. Although her voice is not that of what you'd think is black. But this is a woman making a good point about being cis. Cis?

Starting point is 02:28:25 Yes, like a cis gender. I'm a cis. Okay. Okay. Yes, cis. Not a cis woman. I'm a woman. Yes.

Starting point is 02:28:33 You say trans women are women, but then, women become ciswoman as if we're a subtype of our own sex. That's right. And then you have the audacity to drag the very women that you're trying to emulate. How is that not the most misogynistic, patriarchal, logic imaginable? How is it that my identity suddenly just needs a prefix? Why do women have to shift their language, their boundaries, their spaces so everyone else can feel comfortable except actual woman? If a woman says, hey, I'm not comfortable with this, suddenly she's the problem.

Starting point is 02:29:09 I don't need a new label to describe what I've always been. Like, like, right on, sister. Great, I'm going to comment. You're so good. Yeah, great, great channel you've got. Great TikTok. Oh, you're a good TikToker. Yeah, you made me feel good.

Starting point is 02:29:26 Good performance. Well, then we take it to the other extreme. Oh, you're going to play two TikTok clips? Oh, yeah. And here's the other extreme. This is the idiot. It had billionaires. I have an idea.

Starting point is 02:29:36 How about some of our billionaires get together and offer to buy back assault weapons or semi-automatic weapons? And since they have so much money, they can give the money to the gun owners and then melt down the weapons. I don't know if you've noticed a lot of the billionaires that were very tired of hearing of. about, you know, they don't really do much for philanthropy. They just, like, hoard their wealth. Oh, yeah. So maybe this would be a good way for them to solve a problem, which leads to the number one cause of death in children, which, of course, is gun violence. No, I think vocal fry is the number one cause of death amongst podcasts.

Starting point is 02:30:27 There is no, there is no billionaire, I know a few who hoard their money at all. No, absolutely not. But you said it, sister, that's great. Nice, nice performance. Let's do a little climate change news. In this case, EVs. 2026 is the end of the government subsidies for electric vehicles. The EV market says it's going to be great.

Starting point is 02:30:59 Now, I'm thinking, yeah, if you want a cheap car with a dead battery, Listen to these prices, what happens in just two years to the value of your electric vehicle. As the clock ticked on the expiration of EV tax credits in September, there was a wave of last-minute buyers. Since then, new electric auto sales across the board have plummeted nearly 50% last month. I think in the next probably six months, the market will get stabilized and really trying to find that balance of what's that natural demand for EVs. Stephanie Valdez Streedy is a director for Cox Automotive, which provides marketing data for the automotive industry. I think the used EV market is the bright star. For example, new Rivian trucks can cost north of $100,000, but you can get a used one for south of $60,000.

Starting point is 02:31:48 A new Tesla Model Y averages around $50,000, but 2024s can be found for around $30,000. She says currently EVs only account for about 2.5% of the overall used used. vehicle sales market. But she says since 2023, 1.1 million EVs have been leased and many will expire soon. That surge of expiring leases is bringing used prices down and allowing for big bargains. I think it's going to be a huge opportunity and huge growth engine in the next few years. Valdez Streedy says wider EV adoption has been hindered by price, battery concerns, and trepidation about an insufficient charging infrastructure. But she stresses batteries are really good and warranties are robust. Oh, they're good. That technology will only

Starting point is 02:32:36 improve and likely bring costs down even further, especially in the new car sales markets. And so the next What? What? What was the logic there? Things have resale value that goes down drastically, but somehow it's not going, it's going to be better. It's going to be better. It's going to be better. Here's that tale. That technology will only improve and likely bring costs down even further, especially in the new car sales market. And so the next 27, 2028, we're going to see some more affordable EVs hit the market.

Starting point is 02:33:11 Yeah, everyone's going to be dumping these things. Yeah, well, some of those BYD cars look at fantastic, but they're made like crap. They're glued together. The BYD cars is inexpensive. Yes. And yeah, it probably doesn't hold up, or maybe it does. but they've got some of the fanciest cars. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:33:33 Anybody owns. Are you going to buy one? No, it's electric. The battery, you're basically buying a dead battery. That's the problem. The battery. And you have to lug the battery around. It's not like a gasoline car.

Starting point is 02:33:49 As it drives around, it gets lighter and lighter. It gets lighter. You know what is cool, though? They're finally figuring out for all of, because every day someone sends me an email. Look at this. The flying car is finally here. I'm like, oh, that looks cool. There's always a flying car. And look at it. And it's like, range,

Starting point is 02:34:09 you can fly for 20 minutes at 50 miles an hour. Okay, so I can't get to Austin with that. But there's a couple of them now. Let alone get back. The couple of them now are figuring out the hybrid model. We are using electric

Starting point is 02:34:24 motors for propellers and actually placing them in front of a wing so you're you're blowing back air so these things can take off like five feet and then they have a little jet engine in it or something that runs you know similar that sounds cheap no these very small all it has to do is just just send electricity to the to the battery and then from the battery into the into the propellers these things they're talking about two hours at 130 miles an hour.

Starting point is 02:35:00 So now you're talking. That's got to go for $150 or higher. Oh, no, no, no. You know, no. No, you can invest now. $250. Pre-order now. Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 02:35:13 Pre-order and invest. I think maybe in five years, we might, because it's absolutely true. The electric motors is a lot, you know, the whole concept of it is good. It's just we don't have any batteries. So as long as you throw in some kind of energy source that runs on, you know, gasoline. Jet fuel. Anything like that. This is one guy, though, he made a, it's like a flying egg.

Starting point is 02:35:40 It's like a pod. And it was going to go for like a little over $100,000. And it's just a one-seater and has all these propellers on top. And it's supposed to be able to go, I think they were saying radius, 100,000. miles. I'm like, well, that's kind of cool. And the guy was going to fly over the English channel from England to France, crashed in the water. Oh.

Starting point is 02:36:04 The engines quit. So he cracked up. Yes. Ah, yes. There it is. He cracked up. Exactly. I only have one more sequence here, which is there's a, there's something up here.

Starting point is 02:36:20 Sources inside the Pentagon are reporting something just whole. horrible. This is, a, an attack on our Secretary of War, Hegeseth, and also another setup for the impeachment. What happened, John? This was the first strike on what they say were suspected drug cartels or drug dealers or people faring drugs to the United States. There was a first strike. Most of the people on board that boat were killed. And then there was a second strike. The administration released the footage of that first strike, but never, as the post reported, that second strike. And it's that second strike, they say, that Secretary Pete Hegseth said a spoken directive to kill everybody. Now, the Special Operations Commander,

Starting point is 02:37:07 according to the Post, ordered that second strike based on direction from Pete Hegseth. But the questions are, did Pete Hegseth in the moment, in real time, as they were watching, say, go back and kill those survivors? Because when you look at it, is that an imminent threat? if it's the legal justification, the administration is talking about, did those two men clinging to the side of the boat pose an imminent threat? And that is the question. And did it go back up the chain of command? Did the special operations commanders say, wait, we need the lawyers. We need somebody to look at that. Those are the questions. Because the allegation here is that it violates the rules of war to attack people that are not an imminent threat. Exactly. And they, and they, the

Starting point is 02:37:55 protocol was later changed because we have since tried to rescue survivors. So that's another question they'll be asking. And it's important to point that, according to the post story, Hague Seth issued that order before the first strike, say, kill everybody, and the

Starting point is 02:38:10 commander. And that is why the question is, did he go back to Pete Hegseth? Because, according to the post, they were all watching this in real time. Where were you, Jonathan Carl? Where were you when we were literally double-tapping Iraqis from helicopters on video

Starting point is 02:38:32 released by Snowden and the Assange? Those were Assange's. Assange and the man who became a woman. What was his name? Yeah, the woman guy. Yes, from now known as that woman guy. Where were you when we had actual evidence of that happening? probably still find that on YouTube. Where were you then?

Starting point is 02:38:58 Yeah, good question. Because they were, and they, the cavalier chat from the helicopter. They go, hey, there's the guys, the journalists. Let's get him. Yeah, Chelsea Manning thing. They just shoot him, they gunned him down from the sky from a distance. The man guy known as Chelsea Manning. That's not even talking about the double taps, which were also like killing innocents to say, not only killing innocents, but people who came to their rescue. That's not mentioned either. Nope. And by the way, where's the tape of Hexseth saying this or doing, there's no, there's no evidence. We have sources.

Starting point is 02:39:29 We have evidence of the other stuff. We have sources. Sources inside the Pentagon from the Washington Post here, CBS. This new Washington Post report that says that Secretary Hegseth called for everyone aboard the first suspected drug boat that was targeted to be killed when two people survived. The military went back in reportedly with a follow-on strike. What questions do you have for the Pentagon? about that situation?

Starting point is 02:39:57 Well, first, if that reporting is true, it's a clear violation of the DOD's own laws of war, as well as international laws about the way you treat people who are in that circumstance. And so this rises to the level of a war crime if it's true. And the questions that we've been asking for months are, give us the evidence that the folks on board were really narco-traffickers. In one instance, there were two survivors. one Colombian, one Ecuador and in a different strike, instead of arresting them and prosecuting them, the U.S. picked them up and return them to their countries of origin where they were

Starting point is 02:40:34 released. So if they were narco-traffickers, why would we do that? We need more evidence about that. And we definitely need the administration to finally answer the question of why strike rather than interdict. If you know where the ships are, you can interdict. And when you do, you get evidence. You get individuals. You can squeeze them. to give testimony against their higher-ups. You get evidence with the drug seizures. And finally, the other question that my colleagues and I are deeply worried about

Starting point is 02:41:03 is the entire legal rationale for these strikes. We had to pry with a crowbar after weeks and weeks out of the administration the supposed legal rationale for the strikes in international waters. It was very shoddy because it's classified. I can't tell you what's in it, but I can tell you it was not at all persuasive.

Starting point is 02:41:25 that these are... Wait a minute. About that's Senator Tim, Tim Cain. Okay, so he has access to that, I guess. Go actions. And so together with a whole series of things, the early retirement of the head of Southcom, the news that the Southcom's lead attorney said these strikes were not lawful,

Starting point is 02:41:42 the decision of allies like the UK, to stop sharing intelligence with the United States in this area because they believe the strikes are illegal. It's time for Congress to rein in a president who is deciding to. the wage war on his own say-so, which is not what the Constitution allows. And, of course, they hate that they're blowing up the drugs and possibly money to be laundered. They don't like any of that at all.

Starting point is 02:42:08 They continue. On a related note, President Trump just announced this weekend that he plans to pardon for... Who cares? I do have a Venezuela clip in the same vein. I was going to play Christy Nome's response to the question about the double tap from Hagseth, here it is. There's a Washington Post report that one of those Venezuelan boats that was attacked by a U.S. missile ledged drug boats that a second missile was launched because there had been two survivors clinging to the wreckage of the boat. Do you, I know this was obviously

Starting point is 02:42:45 carried out by the Defense Department, but is the administration concerned here that that may have violated the laws of war? I mean, was there an imminent threat posed? Laws of war? by those people that were clinging to the wreckage of a boat that had already been struck. Is there a wiki page for the laws of war? I'll have to look that up. Let me see where I can find that. Yeah, see where you can find it. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:43:07 You should know this stuff. That entire story is based on anonymous sources. So we see the press and we see that rag use anonymous sources all the time to print things that aren't true, that are lies that are completely not based in reality. So I would not put any credibility to that story to what was said. I have full faith and trust in this president and in this government to do the right thing to keep the American people safe. And I'm so grateful at the amount of work that has been done to stop those deadly drugs from getting into our country. Just in several offloads that we've been able to interdict and to stop and to blow up in the Caribbean Sea,

Starting point is 02:43:47 it's been enough to save over 45 million people. million lethal doses were completely destroyed, that people will now be safer because of the work that the Department of War and this president have done. Okay, thanks, Christy. There is no, there is a wiki page for law of war, part of the international law that regulates the conditions for initiating war and the conduct of hostilities. Laws of war define sovereignty and nationhood, states and territories, occupation, other critical terms of law, de jure.

Starting point is 02:44:21 Declarations, acceptance of surrender. Sovereignty, you mean like within the boundaries of a sovereign nation where the Obama administration kept blowing things up within Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iraq, I think, was another place. Yes, that's what I mean. That's exactly what I mean. Interesting that nobody even brings that up. I have the one little Venezuela rap clip. It's an NPR rate.

Starting point is 02:44:45 They're good to go. After weeks of escalating tensions, President Trump increased pressure. on Venezuela today, by declaring that the nation's airspace should be considered closed, even though he doesn't have the legal authority to close it. With a substantial U.S. military buildup in the region, today's announcement fuels speculation about what's next. Earlier this week, Mr. Trump said his war on drug smuggling would soon enter a new phase. In a recent weeks, you've been working to deter Venezuela and drug traffickers, of which there are many,

Starting point is 02:45:16 and we'll be starting to stop them by land also. The land is easier, but that's going to start very soon. We'd warn them, stop sending poison to our country. Since September, U.S. forces have struck nearly two dozen boats alleged to be carrying drugs in the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific, killing an estimated 80 people. Venezuelan president, Nicolas Maduro, says his country will defend itself against any foreign threat. I'm just going to wager that by land means they're going to get that base going in Guyana, which Venezuela has said. they're claiming, which is our oil because we have the contract. That's what I think on land means.

Starting point is 02:45:57 I don't think it's going to send troops into Venezuela. But I think that's what he means. We'll see. I have one final thing that I just wanted to mention. It's hard to avoid the Candace Owens' ongoing red string diaries. there's only and I'm not going to wait it

Starting point is 02:46:21 well she's stringing red yarn between all kinds of different points okay and I don't listen to her show well so the one thing that she's like Egyptian Air Force jet

Starting point is 02:46:36 came into Provo Utah stayed there for an hour interesting what were they doing were they just getting gas or were they dropping someone off this is in reference to Egyptian Air Force operatives

Starting point is 02:46:50 killing Charlie Kirk So I just God. Oh yeah. That's a stretch. Oh no. Then they turned off their transponder and they first they landed Minot Air Force Base

Starting point is 02:47:04 which is a nuclear Air Force base. So So. Okay. Yes. I'd like to explain what the Egyptian Air Force Base. Force is doing, landing a Minot and then going to Provo.

Starting point is 02:47:24 They're an Egyptian Air Force, and it's Gulfstream. I think they have a four, and I think they have a, the tri-engine, forget the name of it. So they have, they come from Paris. What? It's a Ford. It's not a Ford. A Ford drive plane. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:47:44 No, it's not. No, it's a French aircraft. No. But it's mainly the Gulf Streams. So they fly from Paris to Minot Airport because they are a military outfit and they get cleared into the U.S. And to fly on to any other place through Minow. That's what Minow is doing. Why Provo?

Starting point is 02:48:08 Because Duncan Aviation is one of the, it's only one of three. Premier Gulfstream maintenance shops. You want to go to Duncan Aviation for modifications, repairs, inspections, et cetera. And they just so happen to have contracts with the Egyptian military. That's what they're doing in Provo, Utah. So I just wanted to spell one little rumor. Well, you're going to be digging a lot if you're going to try to dispel all the stuff that she puts out there. I have nothing to dispel.

Starting point is 02:48:51 But this one, I happen to, I happen to no aviation. So I'm like, no, this is, they're not going to drop someone off to kill Charlie Kirk. They're getting the toilet seat replaced. What is the Egyptians got to do with Charlie Kirk or why would they care? Well, you've got to watch. You have to bring in a hit man from Egypt? Yes. Are you kidding me?

Starting point is 02:49:11 Yes. They got plenty in Rhode Island. island. This is the level. This is the level it's come to. All right, you got anything to leave or you want to leave it at that? Uh, if you're like anything kind of funny. Yeah, there's the, oh, yeah, this is just kind of interesting. This genetic pumpkin is a short clip. And I just thought it was it, sorry. I just thought it was interesting that this is how, this is how you're getting these giant pumpkins. Ardeners across the globe attempt to claim the title of the world's largest pumpkin. It's a serious sport for many.

Starting point is 02:49:43 It's even created a bizarre online market for seeds without landish genetics. And they can cost quite a bit of money. One seed costs $349 per package. I'm Anisa Halifa, and on this episode of The Broadside from WUNC, we explore the science, the glory, and the drama of competitive giant pumpkin growing. Just Saturday, a new world record was established 2,800. and 18 pounds. So that's about the size of a VW.

Starting point is 02:50:20 Only in America. Wow. Oh my goodness. We're nuts. America, baby. I'm going to show myself by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

Starting point is 02:50:36 Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on no agenda in the morning. Yeah, we do have a few people to thank for show 1821 and over $50 and less than 200. And Adam has a list and he's going to read it off. I am. We also have John's tip of the day coming up. You want to stay tuned for that.

Starting point is 02:50:58 We got some end of show mixes. And we thank, of course, we got meetups. Yes, we do have a meet. We actually have a meetup report, which is nice. We got one in. $50 and above. We start off with Mansour Rod. Mansour Rod from Alpharetta, Georgia, 13333. Thank you.

Starting point is 02:51:17 Dame Rita, every single show, $11.30 from Sparks, Nevada, as she thanks us for all of our hard work and dedication. We do it as a service, Dame Rita, we're happy to. There he is, with the boob donation, 8,008. He's always in with $80.80.8 cents. Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna, and lover of boobs. And we appreciate you, as always. This is 1821 boob donation.

Starting point is 02:51:41 There we go. M.G. from Rushford, Minnesota, also a boob donation, 808. Craig Kohler from Evansville, Indiana, 65, and two pennies. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, small boob 606. Robert Taylor, New Brighton, Minnesota, 5678. We see you. Sarah Lynxweiler, Bessemer, Alabama, 5575. Thomas Doyle from North Las Vegas, Nevada, 5272, and we hit the 50s.

Starting point is 02:52:08 Here we go. we've got Douglas Mook, I'm sorry, Thomas Flynn from Beaverton, Oregon, Douglas Mook from Cochrinton, Pennsylvania, Terence Clark from Jacksonville Beach, Florida, Joshua Johnson. You miss Bobby Bow, Bluegrass, Iowa, thank you. Joshua Johnson from Omaha, Nebraska, Nathan Knoll in Netherland, Texas. Yerun Snellders in Ennis, Texas, a very Texas name. Claudia Hernandez, and we have Dame Tracy and Sir Canebray, coming in from St. George, Louisiana, with 50, and Sir David callsign Barney, North Turamura, New South Wales, Australia. Sir David calls sign Barney.

Starting point is 02:52:51 He's a pilot, my father, just his wife of 69 years, and mom, age 92, will be missed. Oh, okay, sorry to hear that. And thank you to everybody who came in under $50 for usually reasons of anonymity. You can go to no agenda donations.com to support the show. please consider returning some value for the value that you get out of your No Agenda podcast. We do it because we just don't conform to the ways of the world.

Starting point is 02:53:18 We are here as a service to you, and we hope you enjoy it. Noagendidonations.com. Any amount, any frequency for the recurring donations, noagendidonations. It's a birthday, birthday on no agenda. Well, hold on, everybody. We have one. Count them one birthday. Kevin McKenna.

Starting point is 02:53:38 Happy birthday to his son, Rylan McKenna. He turned 14 on the 28th, so we congratulate him as the only birthday. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We got a note from Josiah Hendrickson, who becomes a knight. I have a feeling this is a layaway. He wants to henceforth be known as Sir Wire Cowboy, Defender of the Penny Jar, and he wants Mamacitas and lukewarm tequila. at the roundtable.

Starting point is 02:54:08 I don't know why he wants that. Lugwarm tequila doesn't sound good. Sounds like a one-way ticket to the toilet as far as I'm concerned. It's a one-way ticket to getting rid of the... Expelling that same tequila. Getting rid of the tequila. So if you'll draw your blade, sir, please. Yeah, I've got a blade right here for you.

Starting point is 02:54:29 All right. Josiah, Hendrickson, you, sir, are about to become a knight of that coveted roundtable of no agenda the Knights and Dames, thanks to your layaway amount of $1,000 or more to the No Agenda Show, best podcast in the universe. I'm proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Wire Cowboy. And as requested, besides the hookers and blow and rent-poisoned Chardonnay, we've got some mamacitas and lukewarm tequila right here for you. Add to that some pepperoni rolls and pale ales, masticholium margaritas,

Starting point is 02:55:03 beers and blunts, fong hits and bourbons, sparkling cider and escort, chintry, Island gerbils, breast milk and pablum, there's always the mutton and the mead and we've got it there for you at the roundtable. And please go to no agenda rings.com. Let us know what ring size you take and we'll get one off to you as soon as possible. I think we just put it in order for a whole new bunch of them, which is always complicated because everyone has a different size. So it's, you know, it's hard to gauge. We've got people with size 13 ring. Did I see that? That's a big finger. You muted yourself.

Starting point is 02:55:39 So whatever you said, whatever funny quip you had was completely missed. And you're still muted. Well, anyway, I guess John will come back when he's ready. In the meantime, let's take a look at the Noagen and Meetups. Yes, yes, yes. I muted myself because during the nighting and then you go off to the meetings, it gives me an opportunity to go to the bathroom. Normally, I don't mute myself, but I did this time because I also had to blow my nose.

Starting point is 02:56:06 and every time I do that in the mic, it sounds stupid. So I muted myself and I don't see any reason until after you're done that you could call me out on it. Well, John was having his own little private meetup. We'll talk about the public meetups that you can find at no agenda meetups.com. We have a report. This is the Wacheninga meetup in the Netherlands. They're, they, sounds like they have some wacky-backy.

Starting point is 02:56:39 Soon to be, Sir Yarp, in the morning. Sir Doris, I need some job karma. Sir Ruesgrabbe, stay safe. In the morning, this is Roland. The IMD guy. Greetings from the note runners. In the morning. In the morning, greetings from Felix.

Starting point is 02:56:53 Happy Sinterklaas next week. And this is Sir Hendrik. Who will give word to the waitress? Hello. In the morning. In the morning. Putting the waitress on the spot there. Thank you very much.

Starting point is 02:57:10 Sounds like you guys had a good time. There is a meetup taking place today in Colita, California, the Golita, California, the Golita HGI rooftop meetup. That's the 805 rooftop meetup. It kicks off at 4 o'clock. Dame Beth, maybe, it's her own rooftop. And on Thursday, oh, no, these are both Thursday. I'm sorry, not today. Thursday.

Starting point is 02:57:30 Pre-Saint Nicholas Day or Thanksgiving Part Doe. Yes, December 5th is when St. Nicholas comes. in Holland, and he puts candy in the kid's shoes. And if the kid... Doesn't he have some helpers with him? Yes, he has the black peats. And if you've been a bad kid, they stick you in a bag, and they take you back to Spain.

Starting point is 02:57:54 And this is very controversial because of it being racist, racist. No, black peats are very racist because they're black and they're white people in blackface. And so now we have rainbow peats. We have Rainbow Peets. We don't have Black Peets anymore. Is that official? Not official, but if you walk around in Blackface as a Black Pete, you'll get beat up. By who?

Starting point is 02:58:19 By the Pete Patrol. I don't know. There's always riots going on about this. There are always people demonstrating against the Black Peets. They've been doing it for hundreds of years, but okay. So that's the pre-St. Nicholas Day Thanksgiving. Pardot, 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. The rest of the month winds up on the 7th, Toronto in Canada, Rochester on the 11th.

Starting point is 02:58:46 That's Rochester Minnesota. Eagle Idaho on the 13th, Indianapolis, Indiana on the 14th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 18th. And the day after Christmas, Clovis, California. Go find all of the meetups. You've got to attend one of these. It brings you connection that guarantees protection. These are your first responders in an emergency. See, you will meet your family at a no agenda meetup.

Starting point is 02:59:06 Maybe your next spouse, your boyfriend or girlfriend, go to noagentametup.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Very easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be. Drink it all hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same.

Starting point is 02:59:32 It's like a bar. And there was a jobs karma, someone needed there. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yes, come on. All righty then. Before we get to the tip of the day, we always want to check in with some ISOs, see what we can do. This is a man against the machine is what this is.

Starting point is 02:59:56 It's my ISOs against your AI stuff, your AI stuff. This is just a matter of time. until what? To you cave. I don't know if I'm going to get a subscription. You can do a lot of creative stuff with 11 labs if you pay money. Yeah. Well, I'll give you some real license.

Starting point is 03:00:16 I'll give you three months. Okay, here's my first real one. It doesn't get better than that. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's unusual. Oh, that makes a whole lot of sense. Yeah. Cute.

Starting point is 03:00:29 Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. Interesting. Not bad at all. Yeah, I don't know. Here's my final one. This came down to the wire. You don't like any of them?

Starting point is 03:00:46 Well, I like the second one. And the last one, I don't understand what that's got to do with the price of bread. Oh, that makes a whole lot of sense. Right, that was the second one? I think that was the second. Yeah. I thought that was okay. Yeah. All right.

Starting point is 03:01:00 let's see what you prompted. What? What is your prompt? Let's go with best. It's true. These guys are the best of breed. Okay. Better.

Starting point is 03:01:16 The show just keeps getting better. Yes. And then man, oh man, oh man, oh man, oh man. What a podcast. Yeah, that's probably the best one. Can't you just use a different voice? Okay. I was waiting for this, of course.

Starting point is 03:01:35 You need a different voice. No, no, I'm telling you. Here's the deal. This is the voice I lost. They took the voice away from me. This is not a good voice. It's lame. I love this guy's voice.

Starting point is 03:01:46 This is Caleb spuds, they call him, spuds. Anyone out there, you can look him up. And so I lost the voice, and so I got him back, and I think I'm going to switch him out again. But I figured as soon as I switch him out, he's going to, they're going to, I'm going to have to eventually pay money for 11 labs.

Starting point is 03:02:05 And what's going to happen if I pay money, that means I'm going to start sampling my own voices. And you're going to get Alex Jones and you're going to get Tucker and you're going to get all these different kinds of things because I'll go nuts. And I'm trying to avoid that. And you should be encouraging me to avoid it because you know it's not going to be a positive thing. Okay. Just so you know, if you want to sample your own voice, it's more than $20. You've got to get a pro subscription. And you can't, you can only sample one voice and you have to verify it's your voice.

Starting point is 03:02:37 You can't just feed a Tucker and make it do Tucker. So don't get all excited. Well, wait a minute. Ryan out there, who's assembled all, a lot of voices, he's got everybody's voice. I don't know who Ryan is. Ryan's one of our producers who produced the, he's the one who produced the Scott Simon thing you play all the time. Scott Honk, Honk, Simon.

Starting point is 03:03:02 Yeah. And he's got Simon, and he's got Scott Simon. He's got a bunch of them. He's got a whole list. He sent me a laundry list of voices. I've had a few samples here and there. How did he do it? So how's he doing it?

Starting point is 03:03:13 I don't know. Why are you asking me? Ask your buddy. I don't know anything. He's using 11 labs. What I do know is it's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with Jason.

Starting point is 03:03:28 C.D. And sometimes Adam. Okay, this is not a, this is a, I think is a great tip because I've gone through these alarm clocks for years. Alarm clock. Not everybody needs when some people just wake up. How about your phone? Oh, I'm not going to let it phone be my alarm clock. This is an alarm clock. Yeah, the phone, no. So this is an FM radio alarm clock, and it's got a temperature gauge. There's all kinds of things.

Starting point is 03:04:04 It's got a battery backup, which if your phone battery goes dead, you don't have a battery backup. Let me start with that. Oh, we plug it in next to our bed, man. You got FM radio on that. The problem with the phone, that means you have to answer the phone at three in the morning. No, you put it on silent. Do not disturb. By the way, does it have a shortwave on that?

Starting point is 03:04:27 lock radio you have the cell phone is the Satan's tool I'm not going to I'm not going to disagree with you on that point so yes alarm clock yes it's called a dream sky alarm clock radio for bedrooms it's a small device it's a dynamite it works it doesn't change the time like some of these other cheap Chinese Chinese clocks, too. It's 18 bucks. It's on sale tomorrow on Amazon. Wow. It's cheap.

Starting point is 03:05:03 It works great. It's got a perfect alarm. You can do all kinds of little things with it to set it right. And it's got a battery backup so it doesn't go dead at the power goes out. And Dream Sky makes a ton of different display modules with all kinds of clocks. And you might want to look at their website. I like the kind that display the time on the ceiling. Have you ever seen those?

Starting point is 03:05:26 They may have one of those, too. I like those. They have a, their big, big, because it's too much work to roll over and actually look at the clock. Does it have an, oh, there it is. It's the time. Okay,

Starting point is 03:05:36 I see it. Does it have an outdoor thermometer in it? I mean, this sounds like this. No, it does. It has an indoor thermometer, but an outdoor thermometer would be useful.

Starting point is 03:05:47 Okay. It's a cheap little clock that works great and it doesn't lose time. It's a great stocking stuffer. It is, actually. That's a good point. Yes. What is the brand again?

Starting point is 03:05:59 For all things, it's classic Chinese name, Dream Sky. Dream Sky, best price. There it is. Find all of his tips at tip of the day. Dot net for John's tip of the day. Create advice for you and me,

Starting point is 03:06:13 just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. You're killing me. That was a good tip. I may get one of those just as a stocking stuffer. Hey, baby. Merry Christmas. You'd be like, what?

Starting point is 03:06:29 It's very small. It's a perfect stop and stuff. What is this? What is this? I don't get it. Did you not get the links I sent you? What is this? This is no good. All right, everybody. That concludes our broadcast day here on the No Agenda show.

Starting point is 03:06:45 But stay tuned to the No Agenda Stream for the Millennial Media Offensive. We love those kids. Episode 195 is coming up so you can stay tuned for that. And, of course, we'll be back on Thursday with more wattage for your cottage, as Darren O'Neill would say. Remember to check in early so you can listen to the rock and roll pre-show. End of show mixes from, let's see, we got MVP and Melody. That's right. Two wrapped around a real one is beautiful.

Starting point is 03:07:16 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas, which is Christmas Central. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. DeVorek. All right, check in with us again on Thursday for all the media deconstruction. And remember us at No Agenda Donations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey-hooey, and such. Oh, the clock, five seconds, two, one. The card is empty.

Starting point is 03:07:50 The card is ready. It's cyber. Monday. The price is falling, the offer flies, the urgency strangles my cries. Discount, discount, discount, I want the drone, the smartphone, the TV screen, the finest winter coat, everything, everything mine right now. The broadband, alas, begins to sway, the page won't load, it won't shine today, a four 4 era a nightmare the server screams the firewall trembles while my poor mouse enters a deep crisis

Starting point is 03:08:29 the goods are vanishing sold out gone no no it cannot end like this all alone but wait a sound a digital chime a signal perfect just in time my minor pulses the hash rate is high the bitcoin machine is reaching the sky a block is found a treasure i've earned more crypto wealth for purchase i've yearned 300 000 dollars more the sales can't wait To the checkout with new found site As As a as we remember was one of 19 suspects That's his mugshot back then

Starting point is 03:09:13 Including his from the chiefs of staff Yuri, Yuri Yuri, Yuri, pro-Kremlin and a pro-Putin stand. Donald Putin. Yuri, Yuri, Yuri, Yuri, Donald Putin, Steve Whitcloth, Donald Putin's the top envoy to cut to the chase with Ukraine, held a phone conversation five minutes back on October 14th, according to this transcript, with Yuri Ushokovna, Yuri Ushokovna.

Starting point is 03:09:51 Ushikov is Vladimir Putin's top foreign policy advisor. Now, the call when you read the transcript reads not like one side of a man representing U.S. interests in this plan trying to get the best deal for Russian Ukraine on the other side. The Russians are trying to get their own best interest. It almost sounds like a coach talk, a pep talk, that Wyckoff is trying to give Ushikov. He's basically saying we need to work together to get this peace deal done. Yuri, Yuri, Donald Putin. in kentucky came air force two the vice president arrived beneath the flags of freedom where the spirit is alive

Starting point is 03:10:38 he shook a hand he signed a cap he talked about the nation then he dropped a troop bomb in the middle of the station He looked upon the soldiers Brave and strong and true And he told him his young American view Folks, let's be honest Turkey doesn't taste that great It tastes a lot like booty

Starting point is 03:11:06 It's tradition on a platter It's what served upon the plate It's his bland, dry filler, you only eat it out of duty A symbol of Thanksgiving But not a savory beauty He told the troops At that Fort Campbell The deep fry rule is sound

Starting point is 03:11:23 If you gotta dunk it in oil It ain't the best Meet around He said it's not that good Most people don't like it one little bit He said announcing he actually thinks it tastes like a word That rhymes with spit

Starting point is 03:11:40 But maybe he was right Yeah, far right Let's give him the bird And see if he'll fire Let's go screaming Eagles Let's get us on the Eagles Let's go screaming Eagles

Starting point is 03:11:56 Let's get us on the Eagles The best podcast in the universe Adios, Mofo Dvorak.org slash N. A man, oh man, oh man, oh man, What a podcast. Thank you.

No Agenda - 1821 - "Genesis"

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