No Agenda - 1823 - "Battle Rhythm"

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

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And it's often quite good. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorey DeVorey. It's Thursday, December 12th, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1824. This is no agenda. Seizing big boats and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're tired of all these AI robots.

Dogs. I'm John C. DeVarack. It's Craigbott and Buzzkill. In the morning. What AI robot dogs are you referring to? Oh, man. They're all over the place. In Berkeley? Just running around? No, AI robot dogs. Where are they? On TikTok,

on YouTube. No, go on Amazon. And just look up AI robot dog and you'll see all the ones available. I watched a whole ad for one called Wuffy. Which I don't even believe is a real, A real twilless, I don't even believe this is a real product because every time I see pictures of it, it's a different size.

It's big, small, it's stinky. Well, this is, something's up. This is a throwback to Ibo. That's what this is. Wow, 959 bucks? No, no, there's $50 ones. We're talking about the cheapies. Yeah, but if you're going to get a robot dog, get a good one.

Well, you don't know that that's any better than a $49 dog. A puppy pie. Puppy Pi robot dog with chat GPT, large AI models, AI embodied intelligence, ROS, robotic dog, vision, science, voice understanding, slam mapping, navigation, bionic quadruped robot standard kit with Raspberry Pi 5, 4 gigabyte. Well, hey now. Yeah. Did you see the video of one of Elon's? Robots, the Optimus Pie. Optimus Pie. Can I say something first? Yeah. I think when you announced the show, you said it was the 12th. It's actually the 11th. I thought I said the 11th.

Did I say the 12th? I think it did. It's the only reason I noticed this because I just to fill it. Well, it clearly says 11th on my cheat sheets, on my script that you sent me to read like you always do. read this. I always send you a very elaborate script, which you rarely read. No. Well, I read it. You always go off script. You're always wondering.

It makes it very difficult to do the show. I know. So there was a Tesla Optimus, and it was showing off how it was, I don't know, handing out glasses and doing drinks and stuff. And then all of a sudden, you see it reached to its head with one hand on each ear. and then make a motion like it's taking its headset off, which, of course, it doesn't have. And then it falls backward, completely disabled. It takes its head off?

Well, no, it's like it's headset. So really the implication here is that this thing is being operated by someone else who accidentally didn't know that they were live on the robot, took their headset off, and the robot disconnects and falls backward. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, these things, you know, this goes back historically. To every tech demo, every big tech demo ever done in the world is fake. People have to realize this.

You see these demos, they are all fake. Once in a while, somebody tries to do one live and it's always, without fail, screws up. So they don't do them, rarely do them live because of that. It's like the one with Steve Jobs, he did something live once and put you on the air accidentally. Oh, no, no, hold on. that was that was not an accident what steve jobs did with my podcast was on purpose he knew exactly what he was doing okay well then this was rigged that was rigged too whatever the case yeah these things i can go back and there's demos of these machines they used to bring

and then you're talking about the 1980s it's 40 years ago yeah they would bring a machine out it would do all this stuff they have a big screen it would be doing this and that and it was rigged to some Unix system down the street. It wasn't even anything close to being realistic. These demos are all phony. Yeah, pretty much all of them are. Well, I see this all the time in the AI demos, like Google's Day and all these other things.

You're like, oh, well, it'll work better. And the product we're rolling out on Monday. Don't worry. We'll fix that. None of this works. Tomorrow to be fine. None of this works. I have one of my streaming stations.

I had in the prompt very clearly up to and including but not after December 6 mentioned this Christmas concert and of course December 7th oh make sure you catch the Christmas concert on December 6th after it just said it was December 7th because there's no intelligence in these things so A it makes the mistake of not following my direction and B it's not smart enough to figure out that it makes no sense

and that's Gemini Gemini. Gemini. Gemini. Gemini is so good. Gemini is supposed to be one of the more gentle ones. Well, you heard about the Gemini, didn't you? No, I don't follow it. Ah, here I got the Gemini for you. Here is your secretary of war. The future of American warfare is here.

Here. And it's spelled AI. Where? And it's spelled AI. So I think it's warfare, like a, like vanity fair? Warfare, maybe? It's spelled AI. The future of American warfare is here, and it's spelled AI. As technologies advance, so do our adversaries.

But here at the War Department, we are not sitting idly by. Under the leadership of President Trump, America will lead the charge on this technological transformation by revolutionizing the way we win. And that's why today we are unleashing genaI.mill. This platform puts the world's most powerful. powerful frontier AI models, starting with Google Gemini, directly into the hands of every American warrior. At the click of a button, AI models on Gen AI can be utilized to conduct deep research, format documents, and even analyze video or imagery at unprecedented speed. Whoa, it can format documents.

Building on the great work of Undersecretary Emil Michael and his team, we will continue to aggressively field the world's best technology to make our fighting force more lethal than any. ever before. And all of it is American made. Hands up, China Man. I'm formatting a document. The possibilities with AI are endless. Now let's get to work. Hold on a second. Stop it. Ooh. Ooh. Did you hear that?

No. He's got a little... He's got... Listen to the end. He's got a little... Department of War sound effect. The possibilities with AI are endless. Now, let's get to work. Ooh. There's a bomb going off. A

bomb went off? I'm going to use this. Nice. It's too subtle. GenaI.mill, I can't get to it. No, it'll say that you're, if you go to genaI.mill, it'll say that you're not on a DOW network. He doesn't even do that. Oh, it did it for me. So I got the email from everybody from the Secretary of War, which was kind of the same. But he says, the first gen.

Gen. I. Platform capability is Google Gemini, a frontier AI application that can help you write documents. Wow, we're winning. Ask questions. We can actually write documents with AI. Huh. Well, that's going to be very useful for people who can't read or write coming out of college. Conduct deep research, format content. Wow. And unlock new possibilities across your daily workflow. Gemini is the first of several enterprise AI applications

that will be rolled out on the Gen AI platform. It is secure, certified up to impact level five. So if a bomb hits? And is fully authorized to handle CUI. Whatever. Confidential something. I expect every member of the War Department to log in, learn it, and incorporate it into your workflows immediately.

Oh, please. AI should be in your battle rhythm every single day. Battle rhythm. I write that down. What? A. Battle rhythm? Yes, should be in your battle rhythm every single day.

Like when you're dancing, you're dancing around at the DOD and the... It should be your team. Gemini's keeping the beat? What does this mean? It should be your teammate. By mastering this tool, we will outpace our adversaries in document formatting. the power. Well, creating a wealth of paperwork,

long, lengthening memos that could have been shortened by somebody who actually knows how to write. Here is, this is from our insider. Here's the email from Pete Hegseth that went out to everyone this morning about their Google Gemini AI called genaI.mil. It crashed as soon as everyone noticed the icon. After this happened, it was forced on, oh, after this was forced on. to everyone's devices this morning. Oh, no. I'm not teaching our customers how to use this when they can't get the basics of teams

and SharePoint down. Overall, this was a complete failure on the Department of War end of turning this on. Yeah, that's right. Of course not. Now, people get confused even by the new, you know, I heard several people. Oh, Instagram changed everything. Oh, I don't know how to use it anymore. What?

Yes, Instagram changed everything. It's horrible. Instagram is rolling out a new feature designed to give users more say on what they see in the app, and Good Morning America got an exclusive first look. Your algorithm lets you curate what you see in your feed starting with Reel. Curate. Curate. It licks you curate. Lecurate, not curate, curate.

Clusive, first look. Your algorithm lets you curate what you see in your feed starting with Reels. Starting today, users will see a new icon in the top right core. Clicking it will take you to a dashboard. of your top interest based on what you engage with most. From there, you can tell the app which topics you want to see more of and which you want to see less of. Instagram says this will give users the power to take action in real time

to improve their overall experience in the app. No, it'll give Instagram and meta more information about you. You dopes? Yeah, because they're going to give you what they think you're going to like anyway, but they want to see what you think you like so they can add that to the profile. Exactly. In Palantir. Yeah, you're exactly right.

It's just a spying tool. And they're going to put it into Palantir and then they're going to nuke us all. It's always Palantir. You just have to always say Palantir. Black helicopter. Black helicopter. Oh, man. That's hilarious.

You want to stick with AI because there was a great AI interview with Stephanopoulos? I'm glad to see. Yeah, I think we can do that. Okay. Because there's other stuff going on. But, yeah, well, we'll get to the other stuff, but we might as well do this. All right. The guy's name is Nate Suarez, I think, sores.

Suarez or Soros. Well, it's S-O-A-R-E-S. Yes, I think it's Soros, I think. He is the president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, which you and I could have come up with. Yeah, I like it. It's a nonprofit research institute focused on ensuring the development of safe and beneficial artificial intelligence. Yeah.

Okay. He was on the ABCs. Just over three years since the launch of ChatGPT stunned the world and catapulted artificial intelligence into the mainstream. I love this read. I'm already completely jacked up and excited about what's about to happen. AI revolution. Artificial intelligence.

Artificial intelligence or AI. That technological revolution now sparking a growing divide. Divide. sounding the alarm. Sometime in the next 20 years, these things will get smarter than us. And we really need to worry about what happens then. And others touting AI's potential. The best case scenario is that AI diffuses into everything that we do.

Everything's more efficient. But as artificial intelligence gets smarter by the day, the federal government has struggled to keep up in the last few months. What do you mean? We can format documents. Hello, we're not struggling. It's in our battle rhythm, pal. Yeah, we're, yeah. President Donald Trump welcoming tech luminaries to the White House and setting ambitious AI goals.

America is the country that started the AI race. America is going to win it. Trump rolling back Biden-era AI regulations and installing entrepreneur and tech investor David Sachs as his AI and cryptocurrencies are. It's really the job of government to enable the private sector and get the red tape out of the way. And the president pressuring Republicans in Congress to pass. Last legislation prohibiting states and local governments from regulating artificial intelligence. I thought he already did that. I thought that was in the one big, beautiful, dynamic, fantastic, amazing bill.

I don't think it was. Oh. In any way, warning over regulation is threatening to undermine this growth engine. A flurry of bills have been proposed, but not a single piece of notable AI regulation has ever cleared the House or Senate, despite some members expressing mounting concerns. Can I get hired if I can talk like this on ABC because it's just so incredibly engaging? A super intelligent AI could replace human beings in controlling. This guy knows.

Bernie, Bernie. The planet. AI companies stress while risks for the technology exist, they say the potential benefits are nearly limitless and that they're constantly improving their algorithms to improve interactions. Meanwhile, Congress seems stymied. The fair is, if you regulate it, you slow it down. If you don't regulate it, you have people that could get hurt. Ooh, they're going to get hurt. Well, this guy who's with Stephanopoulos is a real piece of work.

You're going to love him. Thanks to Jay for that. We're joined now by Nase Sorries, co-author of the new book. If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies, Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All. Wow. Great title, by the way. It's a great title. That's the price of admission right there.

You know, it should have had an endorsement. You know, read this book, John C. DeVore. Yes. Sorry, thank you for joining us. I definitely plug that book. Of course. This morning. I want to start out with a summary of your thesis that you write in your book.

I'm going to put it up on the screen. Yes. If any company or group, anywhere on the planet, builds an artificial superintelligence using anything remotely like current techniques based on anything remotely like the present understanding of AI, then everyone everywhere on Earth will die. That is about a starker warning that you can possibly get. Can you spell it out for? us and tell us why you believe that?

You know, I wish it was fiction, but the way that we make AIs today is more like growing an organism. I like this. We should start using AIs. Don't just say AI, but AIs. Like they're a thing, like their living, breathing thing. AIs. Yes. Well, I think what is the reason for the plural is, because he's referring to the different versions of the, you know. Oh, yeah. No, I understand. But you could say large language,

models, you can say, but he's saying AIs, like they're, like they're an entity. It's just, it's subtle. We're all going to die. Thanks to Jay for that. Oops, sorry. Let me get back to our guy here. Here he is. I wish it was fiction, but the, the way that we make AIs today is more like growing

an organism than it is like carefully crafting a piece of traditional software. The AIs we make, they have the very beginnings now of goals or objectives. or so it seems. We don't really know what's going on inside them. They have the very beginnings of goals and objectives that we didn't try to give them. They have emergent behavior that their operators never intended. Oh, yeah. Listen to his examples. In lab scenarios, we've already seen them sometimes try to escape the lab or blackmail the operators. Ah, the old blackmail.

That's a lie. It's a bull crap story is designed to get attention. If he buys that, then he's no good. This is a classic example of somebody who's suckered by the memes. But he's on ABC with Stephanopoulos, and we're doing a podcast. So, you know. Yeah, he's getting attention, obviously. Read this book. Read this book. They're too dumb right now for that to work.

But if we keep rushing to make AIs that are smarter and smarter to the point where these sorts of things succeed, then the most likely outcome is they become much more powerful than us. They pursue goals nobody intended. wanted, and the most likely outcome of that is that we die. Not because the AIs hate us, but because they are utterly indifferent. It would be sort of like ants under a skyscraper.

We'll be like ants under a skyscraper crushed by the AIs. And of course, Stepanopoulos is all in on it. As you know, many of your critics have said this is more like science fiction than science. One of the problems that Stephen Marsh, for example, in the New York Times, pointed out as you haven't fully defined your terms like intelligence

of superintelligence. He says the book reads like a Scientology manual. So why don't you start out by defining that artificial superintelligence that you're so worried about? Now listen to this because the guy totally slammed Stephanopoulos. Yeah, we do actually define the terms in the book if he had read. I think it's

in chapter one. Thanks for interviewing me, you douche. It's in the book. It's chapter one. But okay. Thanks. He didn't read the book. Why would he? Of course. We define an artificial superintelligence as an AI that is better than the best humans at every mental task. Oh, that means better than President Trump because he's the best human.

He had an MRI. He aces all the tests. He aces everything. There's not the sort of AI we have today, but the AIs of today, many people's only experience with AI is chat GPT. It's just as crappy as all of the other ones. People have been in the field of AI, understand that the field. of AI is a moving target, that sometimes people come up with insights, come up with new ways of doing AI, that unlock whole new domains of AI, like ChatGPT in the large language models of today. One of the big questions is, what happens when there's new insights? What happens when

there's new breakthroughs? These companies are rushing to make AIs that are smarter than every human, and once we get these super-intelligent AIs, I think the most likely outcome is that they don't do exactly as the humans say. Dude, this is, so what I kind of like about it is he's saying they're dumb because they are, you know, all of this, oh, superintelligence, super, oh, the GROC-5-9, chat GPT, 2.000, oh, it's all better, it's faster. All we get is the same dumb lady talking to you. What else can I do for you today?

And I know you say you're agnostic on exactly how the extinction would happen, but just lay out one possibility. Extinction. Lay out a scenario so it can write the movie. You know, the one easy way for an AI to take out humanity would be a virus. A virus. You're going to take us out with a virus. How's it going to do that? Well, he'll explain. As you say, I'm not sure exactly how it would happen.

It's a little bit like trying to predict a football game between an NFL team and a high school team. It's hard to predict the plays. It's easy to predict the winner. The sort of real question here is something like, what will the AIs be pursuing? Will they do exactly what the operators say? And we're already seeing the very beginnings of evidence that the answer is no, just like theory has predicted for years. Do you see any evidence that anyone is doing anything to control this? A lot of the optimist about AIs say that you can't calibrate the systems internally.

We're all going to die. People are trying to control these AIs. Yeah, to get them to do something useful, besides formatted document. The type of work that people tend to do tends to fall into evaluation metrics, trying to see how dangerous the AIs currently are. Dangerous! And interpretability research, which is trying to understand what is going on inside the AIs. With any other technology, like with a nuclear reactor, if you ask people, how do you know you're going to be able to

able to make this not melt down. And they said, well, we have two teams, one who is trying to figure out what's going on inside there, and another saying, we're measuring whether it's currently exploding. You might not be very confident that these people are on track to do the job properly. Oh, brother. Well, that was a bad analogy. It's a horrible analogy. That got 30 seconds left from this Jumoke.

How much time do we have? Oh, no. We're all going to die. How much time do we have? How much time do we have? Uh-huh. You know, the timing is very hard to call. Yeah.

Oh, well, wait a minute. He could pick the football winner. Yeah, easily. He knows who's going to win. Could be that next year, the AIs will still be pretty dumb, but they'll be just barely smart enough to make smarter AIs, that make smarter AIs, that make smarter AIs. Oh, okay. Oh, please.

We're not going to get into that. This is the opposite of entropy. Okay. And then things could go very quickly. It could be that it takes ten. years. It could be that the current AIs stay kind of dumb and it takes 10 years to

have some new breakthrough that unlocks new AIs like last breakthroughs, like previous breakthroughs unlocked chat GPT. Mr. Soros, thanks very much for your time this morning. We're all going to die! You actually kind of nailed it with that one little comment which is

it's a violation of the laws of physics. The entropy is what happens all the time. Yes. It's not like it's only going to get worse. AI will make a worse AI. Not a better AI. It's always going to degrade. Yeah, it has a deteriorate. It's always, yeah. So they're going against the very laws of nature, Mr. Beale.

None of this works. There's a reference nobody gets. A few will get it. Meanwhile. And we never explain it, by the way. We're never going to. Oh, we even have an end of show mix we've played from it. Mr. Beale. I'm sure we have. Let me see.

Beal. I don't know. Maybe not. I can't. I'm looking at my clip list. This is terrible. I have a bunch of clips called Untitled. I saw that. And I was like, what is John doing? He doesn't want me to see the titles because, you know, that was. I have to go review that kind of on the sly here to see what that really was.

And then I have climate spelled vlimit. That is going to keep you busy for hours. But you know what it is? It's, I love it. I love it. If I didn't have that, I'd think the AIs had taken over you. So now at least I know. I mean, I usually go back and try to fix the spelling errors on these clip names.

Like I got Iceland, I, I C-E-K, A-N-D for Iceland. Meanwhile, just sticking with AI, short little. notice. The European Commission launched a probe into Google over its use of online content to power its AI services. The investigation will examine whether Google used web publishers' content

to provide generative AI services on its search result pages without appropriate compensation and without giving them the option to refuse. It will also assess whether videos uploaded on YouTube or used to train Google's generative AI models. According

to the tech giant, the complaint can hinder innovation in a market that is more competitive than ever. Yeah, you bet it will. These lawsuits are coming fast and furious. Well, I'm part of one of them. I know. Thanks to Rob, our constitutional lawyer. He's he hooked you up, right?

I told you where to go. Yeah, yeah. We got in on that. We have to fill another series of forms. Yet I have 27 book titles in my name. Believe it or not. Wow, that's a lot. I know.

It should be listed. Somebody should list those on the Wikipedia. Let's see if it's in Grochapedia. and it won't be it has to be listed somewhere as a whole we haven't done that so so and they want it's like it would be three thousand dollars a book if you if they can if there's any connection I think probably at least half of them but the thing is of course I'm going to need the money with the kind of donations we're getting for this show that you're going to wind up with with 75 bucks no usually a buck

50. I mean, it's just these class action suits, but they're claiming but I'm sure there'll be other suits coming up. It's a winner for, I mean, yeah, it's a winner for anyone who has any kind of, well, if you have, if you're a big copyright owner.

The music business is just getting started. But just as a reminder, Silicon Valley doesn't think about that. Their model is, you give us everything, we'll give you nothing, and we'll take all the money. Yeah. It's a good model if you're on that side of it.

It's a great model just to remind everybody, here's the Microsoft CEO of AI Mustafa Suleiman. With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware, if you like. That's been the understanding. There's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content. That's a gray area and I think that's going to work its way through the courts.

So if I find a Microsoft Windows 12 on the web, it's okay for me to download that and use it, I guess. Yeah, yeah. It says everyone understands that. It's fair use. It's unwritten, just unwritten understanding. If you said, don't scrape me, that's a gray area. Gray. I didn't see anything on the windows download that said, don't download me. Didn't say that. No.

I think the best, though, and then we'll wrap up technology for today. This, by the way, that commentary is a more, that guy should be jailed. I'm sure he's still there. I don't know what I'm sure he is But that I mean he's an idiot I'm sure he got in someone said You're an idiot why did you say that But he's like isn't that isn't it true

Isn't it true Those people believe that Probably thinks it's true I mean you can get to the point In these situations Where you start believing your own public relations Oh that that happened with Windows 95 That's when they started believing their own PR

Here is the latest though Which I thought was kind of interesting semi-related to technology and immigration and visitors. Well, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection has proposed this major expansion of the information required for an Ester application, which is used by tourists from those visa waiver program countries. That means countries where travelers can stay in the U.S. up to 90 days without needing to get a visa.

Now, for the last few years, there's been an option to include your social media handles on those applications, but under this proposed change, which still has not gone into law yet, that would now become. mandatory, and people's profiles would have to be made public as well, meaning that officers could comb through up to five years of data that people have posted online. They're

also going to be asking in this application for phone numbers and email addresses used within the last five years, as well as names, dates of birth, places of birth, residences, and telephone numbers of immediate family members as well. Now, the process will also move away from the website

that CBP has and move to a mobile app, which will mean that features like passport chip verification and mandatory live selfie check and facial recognition will all now be able to be used as well. It's worth noting though that these changes are already in effect for

anyone looking to get an immigrant class visa to the US or anyone coming here on a work or study visa, but this marks a noted shift from the administration with regular tourists from typically allied nations now coming under increased scrutiny. According to one immigration law

office, the kind of things that officials are looking for include expressions of hostility towards the U.S. government, comments interpret it as support for extremist groups, online affiliations, with flagged organizations, as well as inconsistencies between online content and submitted application materials. But really, the scope for what is considered against U.S. interest is what is concerning some groups now. You know, I have conflicting thoughts about this. I have, I want to follow up that clip with some clips.

then can you bring in your thoughts then? Okay, I'm sure it's all relevant. Because I want you to play this clip so you can hear the word terrorist. The clip is terrorist. Uh, I don't see the clip terrorist. Did you read? Oh, there it is. Yeah, I got it.

Tourist. What was that? Tourist, terrorist. Terrorist. Terrorist, tourist, tourist, tourist, tourist. Tourists sounds like terrorists. Oh, okay. You're hearing tourists.

Because I heard this clip from the BBC, and the first thing I thought was terrorist or terrorist, not terrorist. Well, okay, let's go with Tourist Proposal BBC. This is their coverage of the same topic. Tourists from dozens of countries seeking to visit the United States could be asked to provide a five-year social media history as a condition of entry. The proposal would affect people who are eligible to visit without a visa

under the Ester scheme. Tom Bateman reports from Washington. Under the new proposals, it would become mandatory for applicants to supply details of social media accounts used in the last five years, as well as when feasible, say officials, phone numbers, email addresses and names of family members, as well as other details. The changes are still only proposals put out for consultation by the Department of Homeland Security, but are intended to fulfil the Trump administration's demands for far, more stringent border and immigration procedures. Okay.

Tourists. And here's the second. The longer version is this one where he says terrorist. Tourists from dozens of countries. See? He's saying terrorists. Tourists from dozens of countries. I think is he saying Tourette's maybe?

Tourette's, Tourettes, turrets? Tourists from dozens of countries worldwide, including Britain, Australia and Japan, could be required to hand over five years worth of their social media history before traveling to the United States under a new proposal from American officials. The rule would apply to visitors from nations that can currently enter the US for up to 90 days without a visa. The plans were outlined in a document filed by US Customs and Border Protection. Our US State Department correspondent Tom Bateman has more. It all stems from an executive order that was signed by Donald Trump the day he came to office on

the 20th of January, which is all about basically the administration's desire to radically strengthen border and immigration procedures. And I'd say that's sort of been injected with more vigor by Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. And we've seen really a process of certain visa types being identified and then far more stringent procedures coming in, including in many cases, there's real focus on social media accounts and having, you know, the requirement to put down your social media account names for the last five years. And to keep those accounts open or it says if the accounts had put on private mode or closed that will count against you. So here's where I'm conflicted. On one hand, I'm like, well, people should be able to say

whatever they want to say. You know, who cares? Whatever, just be quiet. Just do your thing. You know, this is almost bordering on thought crime. So I can see that, that side of it. But on the other hand, there are two in particular, two Brits, one who lives in the UK, one who lives in Australia, who are part of the podcasting 2.0 group. And I like them. I've never had dinner at their house, but I'd say we're friends. But both of them are always posting snide remarks like, sadly in Trump's America, brown-skinned immigrants are said not to add any value. but all of their business, all of their business is in the United States. They come to conferences here, they're selling, their market is here, and whenever I see that.

And all they do is bitch and moan. And like, well, if America would do their job with Section 230 and just remove it, we wouldn't have these problems. I'm like, well, why don't you? Is that the same guy with that voice? It's all the same person. Stay home, you blimey? You know, so I'm also, and, uh, I think it'd be you limey, not you blimey. What did I say? Blimey.

Blimey. You said you blimey. It's December 12th, blimey. December 12th, blimey. You know, and, and so on that hand, I'm like, well, shut up. Then don't come here. Don't be looking for venture capital here. Don't be doing any of that. You know, so my, my red, white, and blue kind of gets activated. Yeah, you get, you get riled up by. these by these foreigners, bitching and moaning about the United States and expecting us to pay the bills.

The terrorists, terrorists. So what do you, how do you feel about it? I think it's going to go nowhere. It's too complicated. It's too difficult to do. It's bull crap. It's just bull crap. It's just more chumming in the water. Trump, oh, let's do this and see what happens. It's chumming in the water. You're probably right. I just, I fell for it. Hook line and sinker, I fell for it. All right. You and everybody else.

Speaking of hook, line, and sinker. Let's talk about the big boat, the big, beautiful boat that we seized. Do you have any clips on that? I do, as a matter of fact. I want to, why don't you kick it off? Well, you caught me off. It was flat-footed because I have to now look at this ridiculously long list of untitled clips.

Untitled clips. To figure out what clip it is. Let me see. I can probably figure it out. Oil tanker. Oil tanker B.S. You think oil tanker would be it? Yes, maybe. Just a thought. The Trump administration says the U.S. has seized a tanker off the coast of Venezuela.

Attorney General Pam Bondi posted on social media that the U.S. executed a seizure warrant because the tanker was transporting sanctioned oil from Venezuela to Iran. Bondi says the tanker is part of an illegal oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations. Charis or tourists. Okay, so that clip immediately brought to mind a simple question, which I could get this clip from 10 sources, and they all avoid the simple question. Iran's an oil-producing country.

Why are they importing oil from Venezuela for that they don't need it? They're in excess. They're making more oil than they can use, so why are they importing it? I ask you. Well, this was... this i'm not sure exactly the whole thing is you know first of all i'm thinking like how does this even work they just grab ships they dropped a chopper down on it that was pretty cool that we

almost i mean i have to say though the huthies did a better helicopter ship seizing video these guys you know yeah they had them repelling down onto the deck remember the huthies yeah the phony That was a phone. That was AI or something. That, that, I mean, use your gen. It was pretty exciting. Use your gen.I.Mill to, to sex these up a little bit, to Hegseth. But interestingly enough, it was on CNN, our boy, Anderson Pooper, who had, well, first

all, here's the story. And then he had an analyst on who I thought was quite good and enlightening. We begin tonight with new video of the Trump administration's latest move against Venezuela. Attorney General Pam Bondi put it out this evening, shows American, forces boarding an oil tanker coming down lines from hovering choppers, making their way at the bridge and seizing control of the vessel. Quoting from the Attorney General's social media post, today the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Homeland Security Investigations, and the U.S. Coast Guard with support from the Department of War, executed a seizure warrant for a crude

oil tanker used to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran. And Iran. Not all. And Iran. That's a different way of predict. The story goes differently. Yes, and Iran. So this tanker is, okay, this tanker is filled with oil from Venezuela and sometimes Iran. So this tanker is a rogue tanker out there, moving oil. Yes, it's the tanker. It's not necessarily where the oil is from. It's the fact that it's a rogue tanker.

And remember, there's a new sheriff in town, everybody. Western Hemisphere, that's in our strategic defense document. We are in charge of this. A senior U.S. official tells him it had Venezuela. I hope that they do explain if it's just a rogue tanker moving oil around where it's going to. Yeah, there's a lot of explanation, actually. Okay, well, I'm going to stop. The official tells CNN it had Venezuelan crewed on board, was sailing in international waters,

and known was injured in the boarding operation. Now, the video came out just a short time after this from the president setting the stage. As you probably know, we've just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela. They would speak, large, very large. Largest, biggest ever, largest ever, largest ever. And other things are happening, so you'll be seeing that later, and you'll be talking about that later with some other people. We said the tanker was seized, quote, for very good reason.

And when asked what would happen to the oil, he replied, we keep it, I guess. Late today, the Venezuelan government called the seizure, quote, active international piracy, calling the, quote, deliberate plan to plunder our energy resources. Venezuela's leader, Nicholas Maduro, also weighed in shortly before the president announced the operation. Our message to the people of the United States remains the same. Peace. Peace above all else. No to crazy war. No to bloodshed for oil. No to war for oil. The recipe for eternal wars. Yeah, there's not going to be any war. And he brought on an analyst who, I think

Pooper was even disappointed. Like, oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, trap. Joanie's now seen in global affairs analyst, Brett McGurck. Brett, what stands out to you about how this tanker was seized? What's interesting about this, Anderson, and look, I agree with Adam Smith. The administration owes transparency on what is going on in Venezuela. We have a quarter of our naval deployed assets off the coast. We have carrier strike groups, amphibious assault ships.

But this action, from what I can tell, is actually kind of by the book. By the book! This ship, Anderson, was actually sanctioned by the Treasury Department. in 2020. So in the Biden administration, there was a warrant issued by a federal court about two weeks ago for a civil forfeiture action. And when that happens, and this happened in the Biden administration, I was a part of some of these, the Justice Department, or out of it back from intelligence, you might be able to find the ship. The Justice Department will say, can we seize this ship? Is there a way to do it? There might be foreign policy implications. But we've done this in the past.

And this ship was actually implicated for smuggling Iranian oil to, uh, to, benefit the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps under U.S. criminal authorities. So if that's what happened here, this is actually not totally out of the ordinary, and I would not categorize this the same as the kinetic strikes against the narco boats, which is very novel and raises serious questions. So it's the ship. It's not about the oil. It's about the ship. And it seems like there's a lot of them. So you don't think this is part of... You don't think Trump is horrible? Like, he's a horrible orange man doing things and taking us into war?

like my friend Dave Smith says. So you don't think this is part of a larger U.S. pressure campaign on Maduro, or is that, could it be both? Well, it could be both. I think definitely, look, from what I can see, we're kind of an unprecedented territory. So it can be both. But the authorities used today were congressional mandate authorities. This ship was sanctioned under Iranian-related authorities. There was a warrant by U.S. federal court. So this seems to have been done as you would want something like this to be done legally with authorization from independent branches of government, in this case, the judicial branch. Again, we've done this. We did one in 2023, a ship called the Suez Regan. We seized. The oil was then forfeited by a U.S. federal court. It becomes property of the U.S. government.

That seems to be what's happening now. I would want to see over the coming days and weeks. Are we seizing every ship that comes out of Venezuela under other authorities or questionable authorities or no authorities? But in this case, with this ship, with this network, part of a vast ghost fleet, Anderson, there's about a thousand of these ships, Iranian, Russian, and Venezuelan that is kind of a cat and mouse game that goes on all around the world. Yeah, so there's ship camp, these ship companies have got to be freaked by this. The global dark fleet is 1,423 tankers, of which 921 are under sanctions, according to Reuters. Oh, we'll just be grabbing these left and right, especially for first of the way you do it. Now, a shipment in a classic small tanker, the kind that you see commonly, is worth $38 million. Oh, this definitely hurts.

The big tankers, the big boys, that are super tankers, which, you know, I'm sure they're going to grab those. Largest ever. The big monsters are, you have $200 million worth of oil in those things. So you're taking a lot of money off the, you know, this is not minor amount of money. No. And so what you do is you let the tankers go fill up. You don't take an empty tanker.

No, you don't take an empty tanker. That would be crazy. Yeah, you let them fill up somewhere. Yeah. And then you grab them. And then you move that oil. into one of the refineries in Texas. Yes.

In the Gulf, you just move it over there. Here you go, boys. Here's a free tanker full of oil. It's not going to cost you a nickel. Yeah, that's the way to go. It's a great way to lower prices. It's called piracy, but it's legal. Yeah.

Yeah, and I'm all for it. Because what this is doing is pressure, putting more pressure on the true evil behind all of this. who, of course, run Venezuela, because let's not pretend Venezuela some sad little state with some sad little man singing in John Lennon songs. I mean, there's a lot of, a lot of things happening in Venezuela. And I actually got this two clips, Dennis Small. Have you ever heard of him?

He works for the Executive Intelligence Review. No. Well, he received an award from the journalist. of Mexico. Oh, he did. Well, there you go. That means he didn't get killed. Instant bestseller. And so I've always thought that the whole fleet right off the coast of Venezuela, yeah, we're getting the drug boats. What happens is you blow a drug boat and then, you know, everyone starts to chatter. You got, you know, phone calls, ham radio, text messages. Lord knows what they're using. And the signals are, you know, are now.

being received and everything's being mapped out by the ships that are offshore. That makes the most sense to me. Like, let's figure out where everything's going. So this is not by any stretch of the imagination, the number one entry into the United States of drugs, but Dennis, Small explains some stuff to us. The amount of drugs that flow from Venezuela, as previous speakers, have indicated are not the problem. The flow of drugs into the United States,

this is a map produced by the UNODC, the United Nations Organization for Drugs and Crime. It is the international grouping. The DEA statistics indicate the same thing that looking at the trafficking of cocaine, which is the main drug trafficked from the Andean countries, to the United States, 74% goes through the eastern Pacific vector into Mexico, a very small percentage, 8% from Venezuela.

Do some drugs leave from Venezuela? Of course. There's not a country in the world where this doesn't happen. Second point on drugs. Most of the drugs do not enter the United States by illegal migrants swimming across the Rio Grande or by fast boats dashing across the Caribbean. It's not true, according to the DEA's own statistics and CBP, the Customs and Border Patrol, 90% of the heroin seized coming into the United States, 88% of the cocaine seized coming into the United States, and 84% of the methadone, methamphetamine, sorry, coming into the United States, comes across the official border crossings, the ports of entry. in trailers, in buses, in trucks, in cars, in big rigs. Those are the official reports from the DEA itself. Makes total sense to me because this is not about the enormous seizures. It's about figuring out who's connected to what, and Dennis Small explains that in this second short clip.

This does not have anything to do with drugs. Drugs is a $1 trillion yearly business run by an international cartel, which we have called Dope Incorporated. It's not the Kali cartel. It's not the Sinaloa cartel. It is the city of London and Wall Street financial cartel. It's $1 trillion a year. It's the major banks. If you want to stop drugs, you have to stop drug money laundering, which is at the

heart of the whole thing. Exactly. Ah, you're old, you come up with clips to prove your thesis. Well, that's what I do. That's not chicken shit. I never do such a thing. Oh, no. But the thing is, there's no coincidence in what just happened.

I know you have a clip as well, so I'll play my intro clip of what just happened regarding Venezuela. This was the moment Maria Corina Machado reappeared after 11 months in hiding. and a journey shrouded in secret. Below her Oslo Hotel balcony, supporters gathered to sing the Venezuelan National Anthem, and they were soon joined by Machado, who scrambled over a barrier to speak to them.

Venezuela's opposition leader had been laying low since January, but defying a travel ban, she flew to the Norwegian capital, where hours earlier, her daughter had accepted the Norfolk, Nobel Peace Prize on her behalf. Machado didn't make it in time to receive the award in person. Instead, her daughter stepped in and delivered her mother's speech, in which Machado vowed to continue the struggle of the Venezuelan people.

What we Venezuelans can offer the world is the lesson forged through this long and difficult journey, that to have democracy, we must be willing to fight for freedom. Machado accuses Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro of stealing the country's 2024 presidential election. Before she arrived, in a voice message, she thanked those who had helped her leave Venezuela to travel to Oslo. After her Peace Prize win back in October, Machado made a point of praising U.S. President Donald Trump,

who has intensified his pressure campaign on Maduro in recent months with shows of military force. She said she supports using force to overthrow Maduro's government and has already vowed to return to Venezuela. This is not a coincidence this timing. It never is. It never is. She's showing up.

Of course, it's all intended to put pressure on Maduro on the financial side, if anything. Hey, we got your expensive. Someone's getting that money that's going somewhere. It has to be sent through something. I heard a statistic that the drug cartel owns something like 12,000 homes throughout Europe. Well, that's a good investment.

It's a great investment. So what I have, I'm approaching this from a different perspective because there's propaganda in here besides the fact that what you've noticed. I have an ask Adam. Oh, hold on a second. Oh, I didn't even see that. Oh, boy.

Okay. Now, I did ask Adam, Peace Prize clip? Yes. Is that the one you want me to go for? Yeah, I want you to play the, not the ISO, but the Peace Prize clip. And I want you to see if you can spot the anomaly. Okay. Venezuela opposition leader Maria Carina Machado misses the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, but has secretly made it out of the country and is on her way to Oslo.

As soon as I arrive, I will be able to embrace. raise all my family and my children that I've not seen for two years. Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Well, he know or will he won't? I don't know, but here we go. Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Answer the question. Go. What's the question? The question is, why did I clip the wrong clip? So let's go from there to... That was the wrong clip? It was the wrong Ask Adam clip?

Yeah. Which is annoying because this is a really good one. Do you have the good one? I don't know. We're going to find out by playing the Peace Prize Girl and No Show BBC. Okay. I'm disappointed. I am too.

Yeah, you should be. After you excoriate me, I approach this from a different angle, one that makes no sense. Venezuela and opposition leader, Maria Carina Machado, misses the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, but has secretly made it out of the country

and is on her way to Oslo. As soon as I arrive, I will be able to embrace. That's the problem. Okay, I see what happened. That's the same clip. So we don't get what. The clip was they brought, the daughter came out,

and she, and the daughter came out and she gave a little speech, and they clipped the speech, then they clipped the speech is where the, where the flub was, and this is under the ISO clip. You can play it. Ms. Machado also denounce kidnappings and torture under Venezuela's president. I'm listening again. Ms. Machado also denounce kidnappings and torture under Venezuela's president. Denounced? Denies. Oh, I thought she says denounced.

Sounds like denounced. Well, I thought she said denies. Let's listen again. Ms. Manchado also denounced kidnappings and torture. Okay, could be denounced. Denounce makes sense. I think she said terrorist. Terrorist.

I'm sorry, my hearing, I must be right now at my age. There's one frequency that's allowing me to hear the wrong word very constantly. Let's play the Peace Prize analysis, BBC. Alberto Paridis from BBC Mundo. Tell us more about what the award meant for Venezuela. This prize means a lot for many Venezuelans in the opposition because Venezuelan people had lost hope and this prize gives them something that they did not have for many years.

They lost every single hope in 2019 when the opposition leader, Juan Guaido, failed to topple the government. Although she's still leading the opposition, her regular time is spent in hiding. Yes, so she went into hiding in August last year after the election that was held in July. She was part of the election and then there were protests after the electoral council came out and said that Maduro had won the election.

But they did not provide any evidence to support that claim. But what the government didn't know was that Maria Cornelia-Machel was collecting the tallies and she published them and this talis showed that the opposition leader, Edmundo Gonzalez, had actually won the election. After many people went out to protest in Caracas, more than 2,000 people were arrested. They tried to arrest her as well. She had to go into hiding. So we have not seen her since January actually this year when she came out for the first time since August to take part in a protest against the government. Because Venezuelan opposition leaders who do fall into the hands of the authorities, it can be very dangerous.

Yes. Well, now, yes. I didn't know that aspect of it, but we just don't follow it that closely. But I didn't realize that she had gone, she was like an investigator, and she had gone and picked up the tallies of all the districts reporting. Yes. And the numbers didn't match up with Maduro winning, and she published it. Well, you recall that Venezuela is ground zero of smartmatic and dominion and the software in the electronic voting machines. This is part of how this all started to come up.

Yeah. And it's like the sister of the guy who owns the source code, which keeps changing company hands and names to keep moving it around. He's vice president. She's vice president to Maduro. So all of this is all wrapped up, and it all came to a head, funny enough, on Lindel TV, Lindel TV, Mike Lindel TV. And they brought on Patrick Byrne. And Patrick Byrne, I didn't clip it because... We've had clips from him before.

Yes. Well, there's something new here. And so he was going on and on. They're talking about all these connections, how Venezuela rigged the R-22. election through their software, which is a little, little, I mean, I don't know, Venezuela did it. The software did it. I don't think Venezuela did nothing. But you know that Peace Prize girls, she was talking to Trump said, hey, you should get the Peace Prize.

By the way, that Peace Prize looks exactly like our Peace Prize, our International Peace Prize. It's, Jay did a great job of copying it. Yes. Our arts a little different. But it's a great job. Yeah, well, that's the symbol for peace in Japanese. Oh, it looks like watercolor done by a four-year-old, but it looks fantastic. That's the style.

It's the style, yes. What is that style? Is that modernism? Watercolored done by a four-year-old. Style. Style. And so, you know, they're going through all that and like, yeah, we pretty much know that. And then Patrick Byrne drops a bombshell.

We know that he worked with the FBI to drop a bag of, what was it, a couple million dollars on Hillary Clinton. He's been through that before. This is the guy who's the head of Overstock.com. Was. He resigned. He resigned. So listen to what he has now. Yeah, he's like a spook, but he's not really.

But I didn't know this. This is new. You just told us that you are CIA. So what, how would you describe your role? the CIA, which you haven't revealed before? Well, again, I was telling the truth when I said they frequently was reminded that you have a really non-standard relationship. You have that it became kind of my mother relationship.

I had lots of relationships across the government. But eventually, I went from there to by 2010, 2011 Obama. I became something called a Tier 1 intelligence asset. And then in 2010, 2011, Obama elevated me to national intelligence asset. I was thought it was going to be the ace in the hole for all kinds of, you know, for the real tough situations from 2010-20. That was after working for Brennan for four or five years. And then I continued doing all that stuff through 2016.

And all this crazy stuff happened that I've told you about the, where I was set up the Russian hoax. That's why, I mean, I've talked around it because I was trying to hide that. But I've told me stories about how I got drawn into sending up the Russian hoax and the Hillary, this and that. It was a little bit of fidious. there. I didn't want to explain the whole truth. I was doing that. I didn't just stumble into it. I was their go-to asset. I was the national intelligence asset. First, I got pulled under Brennan in 06, and then 2011 I got moved into the White House. That's why I got mixed up in the Russian collusion

and the Hillary stuff. So first I'm thinking, wait a minute, does he know, was he deep inside the White House and working under Brennan during the Russia hoax? And is he saying this now? Because either he doesn't want to get busted or, you know, or he wants to help or I'm, and, you know, he's always been an FBI guy. Now he was a CIA guy. But there was a FBI guy. He was, he was a, a, uh, uh, uh, think. He was like working for the CIA. It sounds like he was working for the CIA, but he was being used by the FBI to, you know, to create this situation, but he wasn't literally working. No, no, no. No, he wasn't, he says he was an asset. Yeah. And then.

And then all of a sudden... By the way, we're surrounded by people like this. People out there should realize that. Well, they donate to the show. Not as much as they used to. They used to donate more when we talked about them. What is the deal? I don't know.

Step it up, boys and girls. So then he goes into this whole thing about the color revolution. And I'm like, what? Hold on a sec. Why are you sharing this information now, Patrick, as we're looking at Venezuela and we're talking about our reg elections, it seems to me that you feel that this is an important party that you need to let the people know. Why? I've danced around long enough, and it's not working. And the regret of my life is that I spent the first. Stop it. Stop the clip. Okay. So we can assume from the fact that this guy's, you know, bully, bully read in on everything, that this is, whatever he said, whatever he said. telling us now it has to be bull crap it's part of another scheme of some sort that we're unaware of but he's going to play it out he's going to use old indel as as the go-to as the as the middle

man you're you're really good you caught it sooner than i did you're really good i have the payoff for that but first we'll listen to him dancing around you're good you nailed it i've danced around long enough and it's not working and the regret of my life is that i spent the first trump term trying to dance around within my constraints. Buffett said, Patrick, when I went to see him, he was like my rabbi, he said, Patrick, just go on television and tell everything. And I just said I could do that, but I went and told enough trying to shape. And I've had enough. We have an insurrection. We have an insurrection going on. People calling, you know, these people calling, you know, if, don't you hate how,

that they say, well, we're not saying disobeyed Trump. We're just saying that if you're He gives you illegal orders, which theoretically, then it's time for you to disobeyed Trump. So I want to tell people in the military who I know watch your show that theoretically, if you have officers, generals or colonels who try to get you to take part in a color revolution, please kill them for us citizens. Just shoot them in the face. You'll appreciate it theoretically. Okay.

So what he's saying is the deep state is organizing a color revolution and insurrection against them. us. And I'm like, wow, okay. And then the Lindell news host clears it all up for us. And there's actually a docu series that General Michael Flynn produced about your life story. And this will make more sense now that you've shared this information. If you go back and watch that docu series. This is Flynn again. He, he, in fact, I mean, since he wrote the book on psychological warfare, I'm now thinking, if you just keep saying that there's a color revolution, you might actually spark one.

Or at best you're going to... It's like a red scare the guy's running. So Flynn is still running ops? Yes. For who? The DIA? It's unclear. It is military-related.

It's totally unclear, though. So, for instance, when... one of my contacts you know this may be the one of the reasons you when you met him that you've had an uneasiness to to the meeting that yeah that was just my my radar man yeah but that yeah but that's what you do that's your job basically just to be honest about it I got to go around the country meeting part of it it's definitely part of your job is to sense things yeah well I sense it right away and maybe he sensed me maybe he's He's like, oh, that guy.

We know all about him. Because one of my contacts claimed that he gave Flynn the washed-out picture of the Kud's... Right, right. You mentioned that one time after the show. Yeah, the... We know who... I know who that is. He's my handler, but, you know, I know it.

I tell him that. He's a Flynn guy. That's no secret there. And I told him, I said, Flynn's running an up. He said, well, I gave this to Flynn, so I'm running. the op i'm like okay i believe you i'm good to go and and you know what's the op i mean we we we don't people should i really don't know that we we kind of specialize in spotting this stuff but we're never read in and so we have to analyze it from the outside which

is what to be honest about what they want us to do let's let's okay let's look at a different ways it could be it's very possible that, because I also know that one of Trump's rich friends bailed out Flynn, he had some enormous debts, probably legal bills, and that was all taken care of by somebody. That's just what I heard, but I believe the source. I'm sure it's true. Yeah, I think that's true. So it could be that this is being made.

So there is, of course, there are factions inside our government and certainly inside our military who are no good. And so if you turn it into this is a color revolution and these people are out to, you know, to start war, civil war in America, just like the movie, the Obama's, blah, then it coming from the Michael Flynn faction, you know, add Laura Logan in there because she's been on this nonstop, throw some Muslim stuff in there, Muslim Brotherhood, all of that stuff. You know, you can start to smoke people out. And maybe that's the idea. To smoke them out? Smoke them out. Smoke them out. That's not a bad idea.

No, no. But it's a little annoying that it comes, like Patrick Byrne, really? That's the guy you're going to use? I mean, he sounds nuts. He does sound nuts. And I believe he probably nuts too have you were doing all that work. Yeah. And I believe what he says.

I think he's probably telling the truth. although his credibility has dropped a little bit because, well, I was dancing around. I wasn't really lying. I was just kind of fibbing a little bit. Okay. Yeah. Which means it's M.O.

Yeah. So there's definitely something going on. It's very similar to the UK Ultra. It's my new name for it. Candice Owens is UK Ultra. She's not M.K. Ultra. She's not U.K. Ultra. So I was presented with some, some, some,

Some, one of the theories about Candace freaking out of late is that she, was it, she's actually had before, uh, this is from one of our mutual friends as data. It was some screenshots about this theory that she was, she had an affair with Charlie Kirk before he was married by three or four years when she was part of Turning Point USA. And then she got kicked out when she cited with the, uh, Kanye and the Jew haters. They got kicked out of the operation. Yeah. And Charlie had to break up with her,

and he ended up finding the other girl marrying her. But she is acting, the quote, the quote is, she's acting like the crazy ex-girlfriend, all the earmarks of a crazy ex-girlfriend, blaming everybody in the organization for killing Charlie, because she hates all of them, because other ones who kicked her out

and removed her from Charlie to begin with. Well, I have two clips pertaining to this since we're on it. The first is, you know, we have a couple more people in the frayed. Tim Poole jumped in. Jumped in the pool. This whole thing, it reminds me of like when CB radioed, when everyone had one, it just got crap. And everybody's like,

Breaker, breaker, break, you suck. This is rubber duck. You suck more than my duck. or like the guys on on 80 meters in the middle of the night the the good old boys yeah it's different the CB radio phenomenon people most people today don't remember it or or it's new to them because it happened before their time that was one of the most phenomenal things I've ever witnessed as a fad everybody had a CB radio yeah and everyone was was talking smack about each other at a certain point it was unbelievable it was out of control it was completely

Except for Channel 9, that's the emergency channel. We don't touch Channel 9, but Channel 19? That was horrible. Anyway, so it's, and it's just on, it's like, maybe there's a million people, maybe there's three, maybe there's five that really care about this, and nobody else cares. And this start, this starting to burn out because they just can't get any crazier. And I think Megan Kelly's smart. she's back in a way. It's like, eh, this is a fireball. I don't want to have any part of that.

So here's Tim Poole jumping in. And then we have this tweet from Sarah Fields. According to Candace Owens, this is who to blame for the assassination of Charlie Kirk based on her own public statements on X and on her podcast, I've kept track. Okay. The French government, including Emmanuel Macron and Bridget McCrone, the French Foreign Legion, 13th Brigade, the Gendarmerie Intervention Group, Israel, Israeli, Israeli Operatives and Benjamin Nanyahu, Jewish donors, the U.S.A. government feds in the FBI, the deep state, the CIA, turning point USA executives and leadership, including Tire Boyer, Andrew Colvitt, Erica Kirk, yes, his wife, Blake Neff, Pastor Rob McCoy, Josh Hammer, Pierre DuPont and DuPont family, Stacey Sheridan, Freemasons,

the broader French interests, BB Nett and Yahoo, with Israel connections, Egypt and Egyptian operations, e.g. Planes and Joint Exercises, Bolsheviks and anti-Christian forces, maroon-shirted individuals, suspected operatives or military, TPUSA Associated influencers, e.g. Alex Clark. Are you done yet? There were only three possible reasons for her nonsense, either she's evil, mentally ill, or a complete grifter, which is it because a truth teller is not even on the table anymore? It was interesting to see Andy No posted an excerpt from his substack. Remember Andy No? He was heralded.

We still around on Twitter. Yeah, it was what I'm saying. Brave Andy No. He got beat up by the Antiphaz in Seattle, I think. A couple of times. And he posted a very reasonable. substack. It's pretty much what we talked about. It's like, you know, the reason we don't know anything is there's a gag order. You can't pollute the jury pool. This is, there's all this information is going to come out in trial. Was it really a 30-od-6? You know, that's the main

thing is, oh, 30-odd-6. We really don't, you know, we really don't know anything. And he got just roasted by, of all people, Jimmy Dorr. So Jimmy Dorr's like, oh, I got to sell some stand-up concert tickets here. Let me jump in here. You idiot, only an idiot wouldn't question the narrative, maybe. Wow. Yeah. It doesn't sound like Jimmy Dore, but.

And so, but I think the first kind of public victim is going to be Tucker. Because Tucker doesn't really understand. I don't think he understands quite yet how this works because he's relatively new to the social media phenomenon. Oh, this is an interesting point. Now, I was going to get some Tucker clips. Not that I don't have enough clips that I'm not playing. But the Tucker was in Qatar.

Yes. Do you have the clip? No, but we can summarize it. I can, yes. He goes to Cutter and under the shadow of Mark Levine accusing him of financing his entire network with Cutter money. Yeah. He goes to Cutter and to some big.

event there, some Middle Eastern thing, and he goes on stage, you notice him in the audience, but he goes on stage to interview the, the president, the, uh, the, uh, his eminence, the she, shake me, he, who and whatever he wants to call him, the prince. Yeah. And so, and to get the, so, no, I love the Jews. No, we don't like Hamas. They do, the United States told us to put Hamas here. That's why they're here. He's got nothing to do they. So he's, so he's, he's, so he's, He's doing an apology of everything, and Cutters, the Cutter, I'm sorry, Tucker is leading him into the, you know, what, when people say this, oh, that's bold crap. And so Tucker's doing the whole thing.

And that very end of the meeting, a 20 minute interview, at the very end, Tucker says, you know, I've been accused of taking Qatari money. Yeah. Is that true? And I guess it's not that I know of. And then he says, and I'm going to mention this. I bought a house here. I'm moving to Qatar.

I think it's a great beautiful country. I love it here. No, no. He didn't say he's moving. He says, I bought a house here because I'm a free man. I'm an American. I can do whatever I want.

You're right. You're right. Like, whoa, okay. He never said he was going to move there, but he's got a house. Investment property, maybe. He says in Doha, because I think it's a beautiful city. I actually, I went on the Zillow and I went looking at Doha. It's a manufacturer.

thing in the desert is not beautiful no it's like a bechtal city the women are all covered up the only woman is not covered up in the middle eastern that area including you know Dubai they're all covered up and it's just kind of pathetic and they're wearing black and it's like hot there yeah is the was the woman who was the host of this event she comes out she's not wearing any a job or anything she comes out yack yeah yeah and tucker's thinking this is great i love this town is, but you're right. It's not a pretty, no, none of those places are beautiful. And this is Tucker. Like, I love being in Maine with my dogs and hunting and fishing and my love, I love my truck. I love my truck. You know, it's like, like, what? That was so odd. And then there was, you know, on the street interviews and he's, he's getting, you know, people say he look flustered. I don't know. It's just Tucker.

By the way, isn't funny that Tucker and cutter, it's like if you just reverse Tucker, you get cutter. having trouble getting it out. Yeah. So I was watching a YouTube interview of Charles Asher Small of ISGAP. That's the Institute of the Study of Global Anti-Semitism and Policy. He's a, he's the Jew guy. So the Jew guy is on with, well, that's what he is. I mean, the whole thing is like, anti-Semitismites. Okay. So he's on with the Jew guy. And the Jew guy, and the Jew guy tackles Tucker and Candace. But we also have to... By the way, I should say,

it was interesting, and I'm probably going to get more clips from this guy in the future because he was connecting the Muslim Brotherhood to everything. And of course... Which comes really actually comes out of England. We can't forget that.

That's why I'm so interested in it. That's why I'm watching this interview because... Yeah, this would be... So you can back up your thesis even more... Yes, with clips... With more clips about me. It's called confirmation bias, and I love it.

But we also have to, I think, turn our gaze to the radical right. The Qataris are starting to fund people like Tucker Carlson. Do we have evidence of that? Because I keep wondering that about Tucker Carlson. Yeah, he's actually registered. He has a company that's registered and getting, they're getting funding for the Qataris. So that's established. We know that for sure.

Yes, yes, we do. Because with Candace, I feel like she's just a bit nuts and ideological. Her husband is interesting. I think he's an extreme kind of a. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough. But, yeah. Her husband was born a woman, wasn't he?

Oh, that's what, yeah. That's what the... Candice's husband, I think, was born a woman. That's a joke before she comes and sues me. That should be the topic of our next interview. Wait, stop. I couldn't follow any of that. What was he saying?

They're talking with this borderline accent, but what... Can you play... Yeah, let me summarize. So, first of all, You heard him say, yes, we know that Tucker has a company that is taking money. Well, he didn't say what the name of the company was. And I can't find it anywhere. But he's saying that with a little more insight than Mark Levine,

Mark Levin, who I do not watch. This is annoying. And then. Okay, on Fridays and, I'm sorry, on Saturday and Sundays, he's on Fox. He's one of those primadonnas that they don't like there. But he comes on for, he does a couple of, he does an hour on Friday, or sorry, Saturday and Sunday each. And he gives, at the beginning of those shows,

he gives a lecture, literally a lecture like he is a professor. And it's often quite good. Well, good. That's your beat. And I expect you to bring many interesting clips from Mark Living, the great one. Yes. So then what happens is,

the host says, well, Candace Owens, I think she's just nuts. And the guy says, now remember, this is the Muslim Brotherhood expert. He says, well, her husband is very interesting. Of course, he's related to Lord Farmer, which is complete British society. And they've got nonprofits and everything, you know, for dogs or whatever it is. Oh, I should mention the crazy ex-girlfriend thesis, the guy who presents that, had pictures of her with Charlie and then pictures of her with her husband saying, look, they look similar.

She has a thing for guys that have this certain look. Well, and then the host says, nuts and ideological. Her husband is interesting. I think he's an extreme kind of a, yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough, but yeah. Her husband was born a woman, wasn't he? So then the host says her husband was born a woman, wasn't he? Which is obviously a joke about the McCrone's.

but I kind of thought that was funny. Oh, okay, that's why I got messed up. I'd left it in there. It's good. It's funny. The scorned ex-girlfriend theory is as valid as anything. Crazy ex-girlfriend. Crazy ex-girlfriend.

But then what is her husband doing? I mean, he must just be loving it. Otherwise, you'd say, baby, like, you've got to stop doing this. Yes, stop. You got to, honey, you got to. stop. This has gone too far. But to me, that feels very much like, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is great. Look at what my wife is doing. Look at what wife is doing. She's stirring everything up and they're getting everything, breaking up the, the grand old party, breaking up MAGA. She's

doing great. Good old there, Candice. I'll take care of the four kids. Don't you worry about it? I'll take care of it. That was pretty good, actually. Yeah, you were dealing it. I didn't have enough gay in there, but that... You could... Doing British gay is not easy. It's one of the hardest things. British gay is not easy to do. So, you know, again, I think it's a UK ultra. This is under some kind of weird spell. Just makes no sense.

But people love it. Yeah, people are all over it. This is so much fun. I love it. What did Tim Poole say about you? What do you say about him? It's all these guys. It's all like a circle jerk.

It's unbelievable. But Tucker's getting caught in the crossfire. He has no idea that he's out of his league. This is just not what he does. He would do his Fox show and go back to Maine and whatever. Then now it's like, I'm an American. I can do whatever. I'm a free man.

I'm an American. I can buy a house in Doha. I have some very wealthy friends. Not a single one ever said I'm buying a house. in Doha because it's such a beautiful city. Because it's so beautiful. So beautiful. And real estate is actually not too bad there for about 700,000.

You can get a nice dollars, that is. You can get a nice multi-room apartment overlooking the water, the bay, and the manufactured pools, if you want. Who wants, it's inconvenient. Yeah. It's out of the way. Yeah. I mean, of all the places you want to go.

Oh, that's the last place I'd want to go. It's easier to get to Beijing than it is to get there. Oh, that's a good point. Well, Tucker probably flies private. It's a pain in the ass to get to the Middle East from the United States. The Qataris send the jet. Well, they probably do, but it's still a long... It's a long haul.

It's a long haul. Yeah. Yeah, it's a long way to go. Yeah. Hey, you know what? If Qatar came along and said, here's $5 million and, oh, by the way, use the jet whenever you want to, dude, I'd be picking you up. Oh, yeah.

Let's roll. No, that's different. That's roll, DeVorek. Me, me. But, you know, but if that's the case, Tucker should be honest about it. Yeah. Because nobody would care. Well, I mean, but how, how tone deaf are you with all of what everyone is saying to show up in

Qatar to interview? And the interview was 20 minutes, like, meh, I didn't. really add anything to my life? There was nothing shocking other than what I think he was trying to do was trying to say, because that was the only thing that really came out of it, was the Israelis bombed Qatar with, and it wasn't President Trump's direction. That was, I think, the crux of the interview, because Trump, according to the emir, called him a few minutes before it happened that said, oh, crap, I'm really sorry. These guys are about to bomb you. And then he made BB Netanyahu call and apologize. That was the crux of the interview. But he didn't, I mean,

why do you need to go to Doha to get that out of the guy? Who cares? Who are you working for? No, I'm agreeing. He went to Doha to collect his check. And, you know, Hillary Clinton was there. You know, the whole thing just has a bad look. Bill Gates. Bill Gates. Bill Gates. spoke there. Of course. He was? Yes. Oh, yeah. Why? Gavi, man. Gavi. I don't know. He's too boring. He's always the same thing. Kill people. We don't have enough people on. They have too many people on the planet. Get rid of him. Shoot him up. Vaccines good. RFK Jr. Bad. Talking about RFK Jr. Bad. Of course, you try to impeach him, which is bull crap. But I have a couple of, I have some underreported clips I want to get to

stuff that hasn't been discussed and it's off, we're off the Middle East. Yes. And one of them was that Trump recently fired one of the one of the FTC women who he put in office in

and her term was up in 29, 2019. Right. And didn't the Supreme Court say yeah, you have that, you have that right? Well, no, they're working on it. Oh, they're working on it. Okay. And the point is, is that What Trump is trying to do is he want, because you can't, these, there's these independent agencies that were created, like the FTC, and they, kind of the appointment is the appointment. You can't fire them except for cause.

And Trump specifically fired her without cause, on purpose to get this thing to go to the Supreme Court. Yeah, I got you. And I couldn't quite figure out what's going on, but there was a long report, long thing on this on NPR. and I have a minute of it, which explains what they're really up against and what they're trying to do. And it's called a unitary, unitary executive theory, which I've never heard of before. And I thought this little clip would straighten it out. And it's something that predates Donald Trump. And for a very long time, conservatives, especially a lot of them who are on the Supreme Court today,

believe in something called the unitary executive theory, that the president should have powers at the expense of Congress to control everything in the Supreme Court. the executive branch. And we really are undergoing a change in our system of government before our very eyes that is making the executive branch more powerful at the expense of Congress. In this case, Congress created these agencies, gave them a certain amount of independence. They thought that would be better to shield them from political influence. But conservatives think that's just wrong. And that guardrail of democracy is being demolished by the unitary executive theory. And also what that means is that the professional civil service, which is also a guardrail, is also being demolished because if the president can fire the heads of these agencies, he certainly can fire all the people who work in them. Well, I guess that comes down to the Constitution.

Well, these agencies are supposed to be under the executive branch, even though they're created by Congress. And so he feels the executive branch has the, you know, they're the boss. So that's happening. but the other thing the underreported news is this is the, which I think is really underreported and should be, it's important. Highlight it here on the No Agenda podcast. Well, that's what we do. Yep.

This is about the court decision on the grand jury releasing the doc, the Epstein grand jury stuff. Listen to this. A federal judge in New York has ruled the U.S. Department of Justice can publicly release grand jury records from the 2019 sex trafficking case against the late pitiful Jeffrey Epstein. The judge cited a new law requiring files about Epstein to be released by the end of next week. Well, if Congress mandates it, I don't see why that would be, I mean, it's new because everyone's like, oh, grand jury, quiet, we just stick everything in the grand jury testimony. We can't release that. But once Congress says, okay, you have to release it, I think,

that's it. Well, that's what happened. Yeah. Well, they didn't, you know, they made a big fuss about not releasing that document because it's got a lot of stuff in it. Yeah. It's going to be juicy. But now it's going to be released and nobody's saying it. All the news, where's the news on this? Is it where did I get this from the BBC World Service? Well, I can tell you why, because what's in this is going to be very embarrassing to a lot of people the news will not want to report on. So this could be front running. I think you're right. They could be front running. You know, like, front running as in we're just not going to talk about it? Because you're right.

Why wouldn't they be on this nonstop and said, drug boats, bombing boats, killing people. Bombing boats. Anything, shh, not the Epstein files. And I think probably everybody will benefit from this being very quiet. Because there's going to be a lot of implications. And it's not going to be, I don't think it's going to be sex stuff.

It's going to be money stuff. People really get worried when it's about money. Who's getting money? Who gave money? Where'd the money go? Your no agenda show will be all over it. And then I have this other one. This is a, this I got from Jesse Waters, which is hard to clip, as you say.

It's impossible. He likes to have Kevin McCarthy on, who is an outstanding analyst for anything going on in the government. He'll bring McCarthy on, calls him K-Mack, so it's kind of cool. And K-Mack. It's what he calls him, yeah, K-MAC. Brother. Yeah. K-MAC.

So McCarthy comes on and he does really interesting analysis. And most of the kind of, that level, it's like, you know, he was the head of the Congress for a while. And it's very outstanding. Listen to this talking about the Gavin Newsome. This is the Gavin Cluebitt. This is the Gavin Newsome, the feud with. Kamala Harris and how it came about and where Gavin's place in the world is. And this is very interesting. I never thought of it this way. Now Kamala is talking about her bust. She says there's

going to be a big, beautiful bust of her in Congress one day. And she's beefing with Newsom. Still, what's going on there? That's a long-term argument. Remember, they come from the same area. They come from San Francisco. And remember that Newsom wanted to run for the same. Senate, and she ran so he didn't get to. Newsom wanted to run for governor. Jerry Brown did, so he had to go to lieutenant governor. He's been pushed around. And when Kamala won the Democrat nomination, you know the Democrat convention? Never let Gavin Newsom, the home state governor of the nominee speak. Even when it came to the roll call, he just had to sit there. It was very embarrassing for him. So she wanted him out of the hike. All right. So they hate each

other and they're on a collision course and Gavin's lost every round so far and let's see if the street continues. I surely don't mind. Isn't this part of the four families that run the Bay Area? It has something to do with it, the state actually, but they, but Kamala is never part of that group. She was an outsider, but she was the, you know, the black token, black Indian blacks, Whatever you wanted her to be, they had to have her there because they're starting to look racist otherwise. So it's going to be fun to watch. Newsom's dad was William Newsom. I don't remember that he wanted to make sense.

This was all about land. There's all part of the Gettys are the ones behind most of these families. Yeah, yeah. And they had all the money. But it's Newsom, Brown, Pelosi, and Feinstein. those are the big the big families yeah all run by the gettys yeah well beautiful we don't have to do anything so i was walking the dog i was walking the dog and i'm listening to uh the president speak in pennsylvania and and i'm listening because some good material some great material the oil baron

uh text me he says he's wrong there are diminishing returns on oil drilling in the United States. And he's in the Permian Basin, but he's in other places too. And he says right now, we are pumping oil at a loss. And, you know, so he's calling people out, the best oil man ever and this and that. And Trump even says, well, we've got to get the price of energy down, energy price down. But not too fast, not too fast, because it went very fast. And these guys need to pump, according to the oil baron, it's $75 a barrel.

Oh, that's way too high. But that's what it is. And it's mainly, it's still regulations. The capex, they can't write off stuff. It's only seven years. They can't do, you know, 14 or 15, even though this stuff lasts for 20. So there's a whole bunch of reasons why it's still very high. And so he's kind of complaining and moaning at me.

Yeah, I would be too if I was losing $10 a barrel or more. Now I think the price dropped to $56 the other day. You know, I was going to hit him up for use of the jet to go to California. But I'm afraid now. He's going to be like, man, I got no money. I'm broke. They got a plane. The company has a plane.

Hey, I told you, I've got, it's better to have a friend with a plane than it is to own your own. I'm going to tell you that or helicopter. and so Phoebe's doing her business and I hear the president and I laugh so hard the dog stopped pooping it was amazing here's what he said Elon Omar whatever the hell there is with a little shoe the little turban come on man that's genius the little turban ah it was great love her she comes in there's nothing but bitch she's always complain

She comes from her country where, I mean, it's considered about the worst country in the world, right? They have no military, they have no nothing, they have no parliament. They don't know what the hell the word parliament means. They have nothing. They have no police. They police themselves. They kill each other all the time. I love it.

She comes to our country, and she's always complaining about the Constitution allows me to do this. We ought to get her to hell out. She married her brother in order to get in, right? She married her brother. See, he's got the crowd on a roll. He's like, I'm not stopping here. Can you imagine if Donald Trump married his sister, beautiful, she's a beautiful person. I married my sister to get my citizenship.

Do you think I'd last for about two hours or would it be something less than that? She married her brother to get in. Therefore she's here illegally. She should get the hell out. Throw the hell out. She does nothing but complain. She married her brother. Well, I watched quite a bit of that, but I didn't catch that good part, which you just played.

The turban was great. The turbine thing is funny. But the media was playing a lot of the jokes, but nobody, including Gutfeld, didn't play that little segment. That's a beauty. I'll give you a clip of the day for finding that. I laugh so hard about that. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, he was doing gags and jokes and, you know, trying to get, you know, he was one doing the weave in a very extreme way. He was out there. And then just on the anti-woke, I guess, anti-trans Maoism tip, Marco Rubio's like, I'm stepping up to the plate. I'm going to do something about it. It's not just America's national security strategy that's changing under Donald Trump, it's the typeface used to present it as well. The US Secretary of State Marco Rubio

has ordered diplomats to return to using Times New Roman for official communications. His predecessor in the Biden administration opted for Calibri, because apparently its lack of decorative angular features made it more accessible for people with disabilities. And it was a Microsoft office default setting. Mr. Rubio called it a wasteful diversity move. What in the world is going on with this? Yeah, I have some thoughts on this. I thought you would. I think my clip is the same as your clip. You know

actually, you know a lot about fonts. You know a lot about fonts. Type setting. Yeah, you should be a type setting. Yes. Well, let me just play 30 seconds of Rubio here as he's talking about it. Now, it's not just America's a national security strategy that's changing. Wait,

that's not the one. It's a, hold on a second. I thought I had it here. crap. I was sure I had Rubio. Anyway, I don't. But your thoughts are appreciated. Well, they make a big point that they was a Simplex Calibri, which is also a name of a shotgun. Well, let's start with the basics. Is it is Calibri, Calibre, whatever? Is it indeed easier to read on screens? Is this now here, this where it becomes interesting.

I personally, there's a contradiction here. Calibri was, according to the designer, maybe the designer even talks in this clip that I have. Oh, I have a designer clip too, but you're on deck, you go. Well, play the guy, the designer guy, because he makes mockery of the change of the change back because he claims that Calibri was designed as a font

specifically for screens or screen reading, which I believe it's probably true. Screen reading is a lot different than reading on paper. Because you have to, it's harder to keep your eyes because your distance, the distance is different, but the light in your eye and the whole thing, it's hard to read on a screen.

If it's like it's a giant paragraph, you get lost going back and forth. That's whether you have to have short paragraphs on the screens. But the Calibre is a san seraphate. That means there's no seraphs, the little lines at the bottom, little footers, there's little, the bottom of a table with a footer on it. It's a sans-sera face, and it's generally believed that seraph faces are always easier to read than sans-sera faces because there's a natural line that forms on the bottom of

each line because of the seraphs. They form a line that makes it easier for the eye to follow. and the font that was designed but if you start to if you look at Calibre it's very easy to read Times New Roman is not so much if if if Rubio was on the ball

he would have mandated for press releases that were put on the screen which is what I think they're talking about mostly they would have picked Georgia which is the and it's the font I use all the time Georgia was also designed to be read on a screen and it's serifed. So Georgia, which is a Microsoft font, it was developed up there, is a stunning font for reading on screens. And it's just in far superior times New Roman and Calibri.

And so I think he was right in this idea of getting rid of one and going back to Sarah faces, but he picked the wrong one. Is anyone still listening to the show? I'm not. Probably not. Let me play the designer here. Well, Lucas de Groot is the Danish type designer who came up with Calibri, and he joins us now. Lucas, what did you make of it when you heard this news? It's a hilarious and sad news item. I really don't understand it. Do you think Calibri is woke in any way? No. I mean, it was designed to facilitate reading on modern computer screens,

and it was chosen to replace Times New Roan, the typeface that Rubio wants to go back to now, in 2007. And, yeah, Calibri was designed to work well in tiny sizes and on course office screens, which still does, much better than Times New Roman. So I don't understand it. Yes, because one of the quotes from Marco Rubio's instruction to diplomats around the world was he said they were going to go back to Times New Roman

to restore decorum to the department's written products. Do you think your typeface lacks decorum? Well, of course, maybe the seraphs in Timesian Roman, the little feet on the stems can be seen as decorum. Yeah, just briefly and finally, you're confident that Calibri will survive this outrage? Absolutely, yeah. Lucas DeGroo, it's lovely to talk to you.

Lucas is the man who created Calibri, this font that is used so widely, but alas, no longer in the U.S. State Department. Yeah. Is it, because all I heard was it's the default on Microsoft Office products. What is the default? Calibri? No, Times. Isn't Times the default?

There's about five or six fonts. I don't know that there's a default. I don't know. I have no idea if that is default. I mean, it's on there. It's provided. It's one of the many fonts that you, get when you get office uh it's on the list i don't know it's a default i always thought

ariel was let me see what the default is in mine um let me see this so it's such a complicated complicated program aptos this is my default aptos so why do i have aptos i don't you know this whole story is interesting the all these companies do this they keep changing what this is our official font for our company. Microsoft sent out a thing, they use Berkeley or something. Berkeley or something's crazy font. Yeah. They don't even have it as a default.

It's hard to find. It's beautiful font. So basically we've wasted too much time on this. Yeah, already, especially my analysis. I don't think anybody cares. I can go on and on it because I think there's a psychology to these fonts. That's the thing that's overlooked. When you look at something in different fonts, you have it, media is the message kind of thing.

It's a McLuhan-esque kind of experience you. Things in different fonts have a different impact on you. It's no question about that. Then we had the farmer bailout. I have two NPR clips with some explanations here. This is all. And I think I called it before Thanksgiving when the reporter said, well, you know, Walmart, they say it's cheaper, the turkey dinner,

but they don't have, or Stephanie Rule, I think it was. They don't have, you know, corn bread or whatever in there. So there's less ingredients. And that's when we first heard the big A word. And I think we identified it quickly as affordability. That was the word and that is now the word that the president, who, of course, made a big mistake by saying, I'm going to bring prices down. It's going to be so cheap.

And I don't understand why the news media doesn't emphasize. this. Well, I don't know why because this doesn't help Trump, which is the fact that inflation is cumulative. It is not something you can't. When you have 10%, 9%, 10%, 9%, 10% up during the Biden administration, jacked everything up probably 20% overall, maybe more. And then it keeps going up 2%, even 2% or 1%. It's still going up. It is never going to go down. It doesn't go down unless you have deflation, and you can't have deflation because that causes a depression. Yes. In fact, it's even funnier now because when he says, energy prices, I brought him down.

Yeah, gas is definitely cheaper. But the news media goes, well, everyone's electricity bill is higher, which has nothing to do with anything other than data centers everywhere. So anyway, here's a little quickie from NPR on the farmer bailout. President Trump has announced a $12 billion bailout for farmers. to offset the impact of his tariff policies. How does this bailout announcement fit into the bigger picture of Trump's economic policies? Well, to start with, you just have a lot of voters who really are feeling economic pain for a variety of reasons right now. This is something that polls, including our own polling at NPR, keeps showing us that voters are talking about,

especially the big A word affordability, as a big problem. Now, this bailout announcement isn't exactly about affordability, but it is about helping a group of people who have been hurt by Trump's tariff policies to at least stay afloat. Right. So it's $12 billion. MPR has some of the details. Danielle, can we just talk about the nuts and bolts? I mean, how does this program work? I mean, really broadly speaking, it's $12 billion that the Ag Department has set aside as direct payments to farmers. So another farm support program. There are a few of them. them. Of that $12 billion, $11 billion, so the overwhelming majority of it is for rocrop farmers. So that's farmers that grow grains like seed corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton. So not things like

spinach, tomatoes, things you see in the produce aisle. One billion has been set aside for vegetable farmers should they need it. But that $11 billion for row crop farmers, what we know right now is that it's only for farms making up to just over $900. thousand per year. That will exclude the very biggest farms, but will include all the small family farms that we hear about in politics all of the time. And it will be capped at just over $150,000 per farm. And the amount will be adjusted based on the size of the farm. So depending on the farmer, that may or may not cover their losses based on tariffs and rising input costs this here. Okay. So there's NPR saying, it's no good. But I really, I really enjoyed watching. I love

the cabinet meetings, um, because it's the apprentice, you know, and he'll even say, if you don't do that right, Scott, I'm going to fire you. You know, it's, it's fantastic. It's actually made, yeah, it's definitely the apprentice. It's the apprentice vibe and, uh, people should watch that because it is really is entertaining. But you also see a president who was running the business of America, which is business. And so I'm watching these farmers. And to the left of the president, for the viewer's right, it was kind of a good-looking woman.

Her last name was Kennedy. And so I was like, well, what she got to say? She's not related to the Kennedys in any way. She's from down south. She's a rice farmer, cute lady. And I kind of like this a lot where the president's like, oh, you got a problem. I'm going to fix it. But I wish I was here under better terms.

I'll tell you, I think the rice industry. thanks you sincerely for what you have done for the California rice market into Japan. It has been monumental for our industry, but us in the South are really struggling. I mean, this is not just a crisis. I would say it's almost a market dynamics that really are true anti-competitive nature, right? So it follows what you sent out this weekend, and we do believe that countries are dumping rice into this country today. We've never seen imports this

trade. Which countries? India, Thailand, even China into Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico used to be one of the largest markets for U.S. rice. We haven't shipped rice into Puerto Rico in years. So this has been happening for years as it

didn't start during your administration. But unfortunately, we're seeing it in a much bigger way now. The tariffs are working, but we need to delegate. down because well they're cheating right they're you know not they're just subsidizing and this got india tell me about india why is india allowed to do that they have to pay tariffs do they have an exemption on rights no sir we're still working on their trade deals so we're yeah but they should

be dumping i mean i heard that i heard that from other so i love this right away goes to besant he says scott what's up with india and and he's clearly caught flat-footed uh we're still working on the trade deal, sir, sir? Hey, hey, get that done. Stop these guys from dumping. You can't do that. There's a WTO case against India right now. Give me the countries if you could. Go ahead. India? Who else? So India. India, Thailand, China into Puerto Rico, not into the continental U.S., but into Puerto Rico. Those are the main culprits. So Puerto Rico used to do a lot of business 100% Puerto Rico was U.S.-based.

All right. And so those slanty-eyed countries taking advantage of us. Scott, get on it. Otherwise, you're fired. Yeah. I felt good to see that. I'm farmer-adjacent, so I kind of like that. Yeah, but there are probably different kinds of rice.

Well, here we go. Here we go. I'm not going to do it because I already bored people, stay with my thoughts on flas. Do you know how to cook Basmati rice people? If it's all in the clean, you got to wash it. You got to wash it three, four times. And only then, only then will your Basmati rice be perfect. Did I summarize it well?

Well, that's in a ridicule like manner or maybe. But I would say that, you know, the Texas long grain rice, which is what we cook most of the United States, is not something they grow in India. And I'm not convinced of this whining because the Indian rice in particular, but let them jack it up because the Pakistani rice will be cheaper, which is superior, I might have mentioned, to Indian rice every time. Pocky rice is the best.

It's cleaner. Then there was a whole thing that went on about fertilizer, which is very interesting, and of course a report came out about that. A new U.S. tariff threat, this time focusing on Canadian fertilizer. A lot of it does come in from Canada. And so we'll end up putting very severe tariffs on that if we have to, because that's the way you want to bolster here, and we can do it here. While Trump provided no specifics on what that severe tariff could look like, it would seriously

impact U.S. farmers. Currently, over 95% of potash, a key ingredient in industrial fertilizer, is imported into the U.S. 90% of that comes from Canada. And they start charging and sending very high prices from other countries, whether it's Canada or somebody else. We're not going to let that happen. The latest threat comes days after the president spoke and dance with Prime Minister Mark Carney at the World Cup draw in Washington. But that jovial mood hasn't paid off. Outside of potential potash tariffs,

Trump doesn't seem interested in restarting trade talks with Canada that he himself called off in October. But Trump seemingly recognized that the U.S. could not make enough fertilizer domestically in November when he previously exempted Canadian potash from all U.S. duties, with China, Russia, and Belarus, the only other major potash producers in the world. Canada's agriculture sector is already being hammered by China, with 100% duty on canola and a 25% levy on pork, Donna. But a fertilizer tariff would likely be different,

since the Americans are so reliant on buying Canadian potash. So this is a, I feel, another topic that you will know a lot about, about fertilizer. For some reason, I just feel like John's going to know about potash. She's going to know about fertilize. I thought fertilizer was ammonium nitrate and some poop. I mean, now it's pot ash, which is, you mine that. You know, it's like a mineral?

Yeah, it's kind of come. It's like, yeah, actually, you do. You mind it like a mineral. It's a potassium source that I guess is needed for a lot of crops. We really don't have. I mean, if we started to mine, I guess we could make. Can't you just turn DC up? down and use all that bull crap?

Wouldn't that work? Yeah. No. Today, potash is a key component in balanced fertilizers alongside nitrogen and phosphorus, supporting overall plant health. It's very important. Yeah.

Well, the final thing I have on affordability, maybe people should go to the grocery store themselves and stop having it dropped off by Instacart. There you go. Yeah, listen to this. Turning to business news this morning, you may have heard of dynamic pricing. Well, now Instacart is accused of using this controversial practice to charge consumers wildly inconsistent prices on the same products. Maribel Eber, we're joining us live from NASDAQ with our Market Watch report to explain. And, ooh, this is infuriating. Oh, Alicia. Okay, let's get to what food delivery service, Instacart is being accused of charging different prices to different.

customers on the same grocery items without them knowing. Groundwork is a consumer advocacy group says Instacart's pricing algorithm could lead to shoppers paying an extra $1,200 on groceries annually. Nearly three quarters of grocery items is surveyed were sold at different price points. Instacard said the price differences were test conducted by some retailers to learn, quote, what matters most to consumers. It denied using shoppers' personal information to fuel dynamic or customized pricing. Yeah, just go get it yourself. They're open until 10. In a lot of places, they're open all night.

Yeah. That's when they do, they're restocking, usually. The smart stores are starting midnight. Yes. Yeah, I don't understand it either. I mean, I don't know if you'd like to cook at all. If you don't like cooking and you don't like choppy, you don't like anything. You're just a dud.

You're sitting there. Hey, I'm going to have some milk delivered. They used to have that. You call them milk, milk, man. They come by with milk and butter. Yep, no, yeah. When I was growing up, you had to put your, empties outside and the clank. You'd always wake up at five in the morning when the

guy's clanking the bottles together. Yeah, trying to wake up. When I was a kid, the milkman woke me up at five clanking the empties together. And then one more amazing announcement, although I have not actually seen an executive order published yet, is the tiny cars. We're going to bring tiny cars back. Yeah, it was actually a really surprising comment that Trump made in the middle of his press conference talking about the Freedom Means Affordable Cars executive order that he signed there. While there's a lot of things around what tiny cars, how it could possibly be legal in the States, the biggest thing is crash ratings. That's one of the reasons why we don't have them. We used to have something called the smart car, if you remember that, really, really

tiny. Still around. Unfortunately, they didn't really sell here. They were Low horsepower. They are very small, and people didn't seem to really want them. But there's a lot of interest going on with, oh, well, actually, I could use something that's really good on fuel economy, something that's really easy to park and small. Keeping in mind that this is not a highway vehicle, a lot of these have under 100 horsepower, and they're smaller than a Fiat 500 at about 12 feet long-ish. And they're all Japan exclusive for now, although there are some other types of vehicles. that are on sale in Italy and India that are somewhat similar. This would be very, very new for the U.S. market to have something like this here. I think it would really shake things up for the U.S. consumer. So I guess he's changing or undoing the corporate average fuel economy standards. Yeah, for sure. Which makes a lot of sense.

We can bring back Volkswagen diesels. but that look Remember that? Remember that they fake their tests? Yeah. I always suspect that when I was in Sweden, they put us on the track with the Volvo diesels. And I always thought something was fishy with these things

because they just excel. I've never, because I've driven diesels, everyone has. And these things, this new style of diesel, which is the one Volkswagen used the same design, they just went like bats out of. of hell. I mean, it was astonishingly quick. Yeah, you don't even, you don't even notice it. You wouldn't even know it was a diesel. No, except in, in Europe, they have the diesels, but you have to get the blue, the blue stuff, which is, you know, the, like the, how what do

they call it? It's not act blue. Um, yeah. Oh, that, that liquid? Yes. That gets it has to be injected to, do you keep the pollution down in us? That's horrible. The scam. It's a scam. Yeah, it's a scam. It's a total scam. The car won't work without it if you run out. Oh, yeah. The indicator will, yeah, the blue stuff. What is it? What is it called? Add blue. That's what it's called. Add blue. Add blue. Which you can only get from China.

Yeah, we should get rid of that too. It would make everything a lot easier and cheaper. But I look forward to my $14,000 car. That would be nice. that little car they're talking about goes 28 miles an hour max they didn't mention that in the report did they no well a lot of people are like oh yeah I can finally get that 14,000 dollar Toyota truck apparently there's some really oh yeah the Toyota truck everybody wants that

it's a small truck they used to sell it in this country uh back in the 70s it was it's like a half-sized pickup truck with a big bed so it's very handy and it's got great gas mileage it's small Toyota, and they took it off the market for some reason or other during one of the administrations by someone or Clinton, I think. Yeah. And they, yeah, we can't have this anymore. And so it ruined the market for small pickups. Yeah.

Now it's back. That's a winner, that thing. So it's called deaf. Yeah, deaf. That's pig urine. Remember we did a whole show about pig urine? Oh, that's right. The pig urine goes into the gasoline, into the diesel fuel.

Yeah. That's just the greatest. Meanwhile, only a tiny elite controls all of the money in the world. A new world inequality report warns that fewer than 60,000 of the world's richest people own more wealth than half of the entire world put together. The report highlights extreme gaps in income and wealth, which translate into unequal distribution of political power. A global elite amounting to 0.001% of the population is three times wealthier than the bottom 50%.

At the same time, the top-tier contributes disproportionately little to public finances. Middle-class workers on a high professional salary such as doctors, teachers, and engineers, pay a higher share of their income in tax than a billionaire whose wealth is based on offshore structures or capital gains. Global wealth inequality also leads to an unequal contribution to climate change. Yeah. Well, wait, I have another one. solostalgia. Have you heard of this disease? Well, I want to stay with the rich people first because they have a series because they're trying to institute a wealth tax now. And you know me.

Well, that's what this is about. That's what that whole clip is about. Based on climate change. Yeah, well, climate, whatever. But in California, they're trying to institute a wealth tax on the billionaires. and it's all revealed in my untitled clip one. Talk about a wealth tax is back, maybe because of the stunning increase in unaffordability and inequity. Oxfam reported on the work of three French economists who found that around the world the top 1% of people own about 43%, almost half of the world's total wealth.

Could a wealth tax spread that around a little? This is no coincidence that Euro News had that report, and now this is from where? NPR? Yep. No coincidence whatsoever. That's why it's why it's interesting. Now, most of us are taxed on paychecks, what we make. A wealth tax is the concept of taxing billionaires on what they own, which might include a few Picasso's and an MBA team. Patricia Cohn of the New York Times reports that Norway, Switzerland, and Spain already have wealth taxes. Bolivia has an impuesto alas dexter las grotes or tax on grand fortunes. There are heated debates in France, and in Britain, one survey shows. 75% of people in the U.K. support this idea. Well, here at home, California recently proposed

a billionaire tax act, a one-time 5% tax on the worth of California's billionaires to pay for health care and education in the state. They can exclude retirement accounts and up to 5 million in assets like cars and expensive handbags. But what are the pros and cons? Christina Llewellyn is a professor at the Pool College of Management at North Carolina State University. Among her recent articles on the university's website is the pros and cons of wealth taxes. That works out well for us. Professor Llewellyn, Christina, welcome. Thank you so much. I'm really happy to be here and thank you for having me. Yeah, just what we're looking for us. That's exactly why I ended it. If you want to solve the problem, get rid of central banks. How about that? Isn't it wealth tax?

This is dumb. Well, I wrote a column on wealth tax, which I think is better than income tax, but they're not doing it that way. They want to have it on top of income tax, which is not the idea. And it's on my substack, devoric.com, go look at it and you can read, you look it up. It's a, I wrote it years ago. I keep talking about it, but it's not 5% of a billionaire. It's, you know, everybody gets taxed a little bit. But whatever the case, this is like nonsense. If you want to play more, it's part two. So a quick example, which you outline, NBA player LeBron James made over $47 million in the 24, 25 season.

Yeah, I go off to the black man. And was taxed at 37% on most of his income. But then you give the example of Mark Zuckerberg. Wait a minute. There's like a double whammy in here. Like, oh, the black man who made it rich, he gets taxed 37%. But the white Jew, man, no, no, no. Trolling shareholder of meta.

Right, exactly. So Mark Zuckerberg, he only receives a dollar in salaries, but he has a substantial amount of wealth accumulated. So if we impose a 5% tax on that, it would generate a substantial amount of revenue. He does have 209.4 billion. Worth remembering every one of those billions is a thousand million. And then this proposed 5% wealth tax.

For him would be just 10 billion off 209 billion. And someone's like, well, that's not going to hurt. But the issue with this is really just because he has this wealth, it doesn't mean that he has the amount of money laying around to pay this tax. Many wealthy people, their money is tied up in their assets. So they don't necessarily keep a lot of cash laying around. They invest it in other sources of wealth that can help generate more investment income. What might the solution there be?

A different solution could be to tax the investment income at a higher tax rate. If he receives dividends or capital gains on stock that he does sell, we could tax that at a higher rate. But some have suggested, well, you know, some of these billionaires we're talking about, maybe have 11 houses in one case. Couldn't they sell off some of their assets or would that be seen as being unfair? Yes. And that's a great point. point. Normally when we think about tax policy principles, one thing that we don't want to do is

cause taxpayers to make decisions that they wouldn't otherwise do just because of a tax is imposed. So that's normally thought of as kind of a bad tax policy. Well, I think this brings us to unrealized gains. Now, you mentioned Zuckerberg and others in the short term. They get dividends, the cash back from investments. Those are taxed and realized. Unrealized gains are the increase in value of investments on paper. You know, this value doesn't trigger taxes until those investments are sold. And there's a suggestion to tax this increase in value before sale, the increase in other assets as well.

This will never happen. No, it can't. It would kill everything. It would ruin my Bitcoin stash, man. Oh, yeah, it would. Yes. This is often discussed, by the way, Bitcoin fixes all of this, but okay, we'll keep with this.

Oh, it does? Yeah, it does. It does. If we all use Bitcoin, there would be no more wars. There would be a perfect life. And lots is free sex. Tons of it in my concubine, in my polycule. All right.

Do we have to listen to more? Is there more? We don't have to listen to anything. Well, if you think it's important, important. It's important. I mean, you've got the gist of it. It's just like they're trying to, well, actually skip three and go to the last clip.

because they at least have a little rap. We'll stay with California. This just affects 200 people in California, 200 billionaires. And the SEIUHW Union estimates that it would raise $100 billion to pay for that. It's a substantial amount of money. There are definitely costs and benefits of this, and they just really have to decide if the substantial amount of revenue that they generate is going to be worth that administrative burden that they're going to place on taxpayers

and the tax authority. Yeah. By the way, this is not a new idea. 17th century Massachusetts colonists imposed a well tax on holdings, land, ship, jewelry, livestock. There were just a lot fewer people to check. Right, exactly. I think people had probably less complex arrangements back then. I mean, although we don't normally think about this, even a real estate tax for property tax, it's based on how much your real estate assets worth at that point in time.

But real estate's pretty easy to value, and they have. of, you know, specialists at, at the jurisdictions that do that. But, yeah, you're right. These taxes have been around for, for a long time in different forms. Yeah. Two people get salaries for that conversation. That's, that's just, that's horrible. But one of them didn't get paid for it.

She's the volunteer professor. Oh, she's a volunteer professor. No, she's a professor. She gets paid to be a professor. She didn't get paid to talk to NPR. Yeah, she gets paid to do this dumb research. research on the wealth tax the wealth tax is not a bad idea if it's applied with to everyone not just to you know you take a billionaire and gow this is just it's called amongst the rich people

they always like to use this term soaking the rich yes and uh it's going to happen to you out there in california the longer you stay they're like oh devour i think this is this pendulum do you ever heard of this the pendulum swings yeah enjoy enjoy the pendulum that knocks you in the head when it swings back. It's already swinging back with Gavin Newsom being he's going to be ousted. We're going to put in

Tom Steyer is going to be the next governor. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's going to be great. But don't say I didn't warn you. Don't say I didn't warn you. Yeah, okay. Because, you know, we can't come guns ablazing across the country border of California

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Oh, that's kind of cool. But yeah. Cool. Yeah. So you're in it for the money. All right. I hope it's worth it. And the weather.

Oh, and the weather. All I hear you was moaning. It's too hot. It's too cold. Yeah, but that's a, but by too cold to me, it's like 60.

I've never heard you say, it's beautiful here today. That's what we do in California. Oh, because we expect the weather to be 76. with about 40% humidity every day. That's when it's beautiful.

And it's sunny, but not windy. All right. All right. Hey, you do you, boo. It's all good with me. So anyway, I told them that. And I said, do you remember when we switch from 11 a.m. Central time to 1 p.m. central time?

People lost their ever-loving minds after like 50. That was about 10 years ago. No, five, five years ago. No. So it was when we moved here. Yeah. I'm quite sure. And people were mad.

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It was humorous. That's the word. No agenda art generator.com is where you can upload your, your AI prompted slop, which is what most of it is these days. Although Blue Acorn, blue acorn,

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And, you know, you're making it too complicated people. You're way too in the details of these pictures. We don't need, you know, like really, detailed scenery. It doesn't work on small album art. It has to be big in your face and funny. And people are really trying to do like cutesy little, well, I guess the AI is doing that.

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I can't tell you why. It was a little gruesome. Yeah. So, you know, don't try to do cute scenery. It has to be in your face. It has to be up front, big. make it clear put that in and then the nut fisting by blue acorn first of all it wasn't fissing Santa wasn't fisting the nuts and and they were like they still had the shells on him

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That was actually a Texas accent. Yeah. But it did drift to Georgia a little bit. Yes. But it was the regular Texas accent that the people would normally have not that my favorite one which is uh it is fort worth where you're constantly making noise because you're talking to siblings uh onward to oh yes Ian Hickey Ian Hickey Williamsport Pennsylvania and he came with a thousand thanks for the show he writes

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and someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this. While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Well, there you go. Thank you, Ian. I think you get an international peace prize for that. Sir Hare Heel in White Salmon, Washington, 333.33. He wants F. Cancer and a jobs karma.

He says, here's to another year of no agenda. And four more after that, Sir, Hare Heel. all right jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma Christopher graves is up he's in Mount Aukham uh that's in California somewhere no matter what you do this holiday he writes make sure you value make sure those you value make sure those you value know they're worth So that's why he gave us $242. There you go. So donate to the No Agenda Show. Oh, my goodness.

At Little Johns Candies, we make our to, they must be selling a lot of toffee. Fresh in our kitchen and ship it to your door, we will gift wrap it at no extra charge, including your personal holiday note. Go to littlejonscandies.com. That's littlejonscandies.com. And use the code ITM 10 plus 10 and save 10% for yourself. and while donating 10% to the show. So in other words, he's gotten 24 boxes sold there, it looks like.

Yeah. Holiday sales karma and happy holidays to our fellow small business owners during the season. These people are so nice, little Johns Candies.com. So I'd mentioned on the show that we're saving the toffee they sent us to have it with the kids. And they immediately sent to know, oh, our toffies are very butter heavy. and they don't keep as long as you'd think. So you've got to put them in the freezer or in the fridge. A good tip.

It's a very good tip. And just in case they said, go to your PO box on Saturday. We've got more coming for you. I love these people at Little John's candies. You've got karma. Gwen Sabiski is in Kettering, Ohio. And Gwen sends us a row of ducks 2-2-2. dot 2.2 and has a note. In the morning, gentlemen, this is a written note. This row of ducks is a

birthday, December 10th donation for my sister, Beth Booze Johnson. She hit me in the mouth about five years ago, and I love it. She and I walk together most days and usually discuss the latest shows. We find your analysis spot on and very helpful. She is a regular donor, so no deducing needed, but they always give me a biscuit on my birthday and shut up, slave, would be welcome. God bless you both. Thank you for your courage. Peace and joy from Gwen Gubiski. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Shut up, slave. There you go, Gwen. Thank you very much. I think that was... Gwen. Sobisky, not go-bisky. Oh, I'm sorry, Sobisky. So-Bisky. Yes, Gwen So-Biski. It was cut off on the

note. I was reading it. Couldn't see it. Yes, thank you. Eli, the coffee guy. He's up. Ready. Bensonville, Illinois, 212, 12, uh, well, he, it's the 11th, 12th. Today's the 12th, man. I don't care what you say. Even Eli the coffee guy knows it. It's the 12th. It's the final stretch before Christmas and plenty of us are still doing the last minute shuffle. No worries. Gigawatts got your back. We're running a sampler pack sale this weekend, which would be a good idea because you can get a good sense of things. So if you need a gift that won't end up in the re-gift pile, you don't want to keep coffee forever, visit gigawatt coffeeroasters.com and give the gift of fresh roasted coffee to someone or yourself today. Stay caffeinated, Eli, the coffee guy. I think some gigawak coffee would be great as a white elephant gift. You know, the white elephant gift. No, the white elephant gift where everybody brings a gift and then you, everyone, you just take one.

Is there a white elephant involved? You clearly don't get out. You don't have any friends for a white elephant gift giving party? I haven't had seen a white elephant gift giving party my entire life, even when I got out. And we're winding it up, our final associate executive producer, $200, Linda Lu Patkin, from Castle Rock, Colorado. We still don't know if she moved, but that's where she's from now. And she wants jobs, karma, and says, hey, why don't you give the gift of a resume that gets results this Christmas.

Go to Imagemakers Inc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers Inc. with the K. And work with Linda Liu. She is the Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Oh, and P.S., here it is. I move to Castle Rock because the loony left policies of Denver were creeping into Lakewood. See, this is what you should take to heart, John. She knows when it's time to move.

Linda Lou, the Duchess of Jobs and writer-winning resumes. She moved, and you're just sticking it out close to the fire. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Luka, karma. I find it's protective to be around the loony left. Yeah, well, they have masks on, so you won't get sick. You don't have to worry about catching anything.

Or even looking at their faces. Yeah, that's pretty good. you very much to the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,824, the best podcast in the universe. Please go to IMDB.com, enter that information and have a link to the show notes because we always put it there proudly. And thank you for supporting the show. Thank you to our Rubbleizer, our Instanites, and Peace Prize awardees. It is very much appreciated. We'll be thanking $50 and above the rest of our producers in the second segment. Once again, congratulations, and thank you for supporting the No Agenda Show.

is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Water. Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. I had a, Bobby the Op has been out and about, making America healthy again. It's very interesting, the things he's saying, the things he's doing. He really wants to change airport food, which I thought was rather amusing, and not just airport food. I fly typically over the past 30 years, probably average 250 days a year in airports.

And I can tell you that this is where healthy diets go to die. The food is that's available in the airport. A lot of it tastes very good. but it's not very good for you. It's deep-fried food, it's sugar bombs, it's ultra-processed foods, and all of them are going to leave you sicker than before you ate them. And one of the things that Secretary Duffy is encouraging these airports to do is to open up new options, like the one you see behind you, Farmer's Fridge,

is the availability of nursing spaces, nursing pods, nursing rooms. all of the ingenuity of corporate America, all the resources, all the resourcefulness has not produced an infant formula that is superior in nutrition and all the qualities that we want to the infant formula that God made, which is the infant formula in a mother's breast. We at HHS are encouraging mothers to breastfeed as long as possible. Because there is no better food for your brain, for your gut microbiome, for your physical growth, for your emotional growth, and what's in God-given breast milk. I don't know. So wait, let me get this straight.

So they're going to change the airport food to mother's milk? Is that right? Yeah, I think it was very strange combination that he won two punch he had there. And then he also was doing pull-ups. Oh, I miss. I missed the pull-ups. Oh, no, he's going to, once, gyms in the, in the airport? Yeah.

And so he, him and Duffy, I guess is Duffy, where they're doing pull-ups. And Duffy can do pull-ups better than Kennedy. It's kind of funny. I've never thought of that. Well, he was, but, but they're doing these pull-ups. And Kennedy, as he's doing him, he's, you know, he's wearing a, he's dressed the hilt, of course. He's always fully dressed when he does exercise. And these armpits were all soaked.

So I'm to understand that you're going to have people work out just before they get on a plane so they stink to high heaven when they sit next to you. This is not a good idea. Well, I wasn't sure what to make of it myself. I mean, he went from Cinebonds to breast milk. It was just, it was a bit much. You know, the San Francisco airport, for example, I don't know if he flies anything but private. Because most airports, big airports, they have a food court that has a lot of good food in it. not just processed crap.

Well, another reason to stay in California. The airport food is delightful. It's not bad. I'm telling you, the San Francisco's got a couple of Chinese restaurants, his airport food. I got a ass hat for you. Wait, no, wait. I want to finish with my second Bobby the op clip.

Oh, Bobby's still up. He said something that we all knew, but now he says it. So now people are, oh, really? There's a chemical now the second most. A used chemical in this country, pesticide in this country is atrazine. It's banned in Europe, banned all over the world. But we use it here.

It's in 63% of our drinking water. There's a famous African-American scientist named Tyler Hayes, who's at the University of Berkeley. He did a famous experiment that anybody should look up on the internet. There's no such thing as what? University of Berkeley. Okay. But I thought it was interesting he had to say it was African-American.

How about there's an American scientist? But okay. There's a famous African-American scientist named Tyler Hayes. It's unnecessary. That's his background as a Democrat. Yes. There's the Democrat coming out. Hey, man, I'm virtue signaling to y'all.

He's African-American, okay? Who's at the University of Berkeley. He did a famous experiment that anybody can look up on the Internet. He put 70 African water frogs in an aquarium. He put atrazine in the water of that aquarium. There was less than EPA's level. So it's less than the levels we have in 63% of our water supply. 60 of those frogs became sterile.

They're all male frogs. 60 became sterile. 10% of those frogs turn female. And they were able to produce... During the frogs are gay. So it changed their sex. And of course, normally, you know, when you see something like that in an animal model, the first thing you want to do is tested.

in a mammalian model and a human model those tests were never done. I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turned the friggin frogs gay. Yeah. We actually had the clip at least 10 years ago

of that professor at Cal Berkeley on this show discussing this in great detail because he was on the Amy Goodman's show telling us about this and it was over a decade ago. Really? And I'm, yeah, you can look it up.

I mean, did you look up atrazine And in your database, you'll probably find it. I have 2017. I don't know who that was. Let me say this. It's the gender-bending nature of this drug atrazine. Nailed it. Well, initially we found that the larynx of the voice box in exposed males didn't grow properly.

Oh, there's Bobby right there. His voice box didn't grow properly because the frogs are turning gay with a water. He's drinking. You know, since this is an old clip from a decade ago, now that you're not, you're playing, it's got new information. New information, man. And this was an indication that the male hormone testosterone

was not being produced at appropriate levels. And eventually we found that not only were these males demasculized or chemically castrated, but they also were starting to develop ovaries or starting to develop eggs. And eventually we discovered that these males didn't breed properly. properly, that some of the males actually completely turned into females. So we had genetic males that were laying eggs and reproducing as females.

And now we're starting to show that some of these males actually show, I guess, what we'd call homosexual behavior. They actually prefer to mate with other males. Yeah, and left that out, Bobby the Op. You left out the gay part. Very important. I'm glad you called for that, John. And our fantastic system. Yeah, a ridiculous archive.

Pulled it up right away. That is the truth from the man himself, the African-American scientist. Yeah. Wow. Too bad it was Amy Goodman, but otherwise, dynamite. Nobody else would put the guy on.

Yeah. That's the real problem. You get Amy Goodman gets credit for stuff she shouldn't get credit for it because the rest of the media is so damned lazy. Yeah. So I have a couple of, I do have a ask Adam.

But you already have this. You already had a failed one. Yeah, I know. that was a botch. It was a botch? What was porn hub's most searched term of 2025 in the United States? Oh, let me. I'm not looking it up.

I'm literally just trying to think. Pornhub's most searched term. So we're pretty, we're pretty degenerate here in America. I would say midget porn. Lesbian. Really? Yeah, lesbian is number one. but worldwide it was hentai hentai yeah anime porn followed by milf pinet which is a

filipino lesbian is like fourth on the national international list and anal and here's an interesting little point yeah this is stuff we need to know this is very important information now on the search this is a very interesting part SFW not safe word content is somehow increasing on the very much not safe for worth porn hub s fw asmr is up 56% for example meanwhile the podcast category has soared 327% the podcast category of what search they search for podcasts and on porn hub they're looking for porn this is an opportunity here we need to up let me see first let me see if we're even on Spotify yet we've been tracking this for a week and a half and let's see I'm logging into creators dot Spotify.com and it's it's thinking about it and

wow they deleted my my my entire entry what yeah that's because you've been bad mouthing him for years and years it's probably there's probably a non-disparagement clause in their contract. Oh, man. They're like, no, no, you can't upload this podcast. So how do we- After they were stealing it? Yeah.

How do we upload the Pornhub? We need to upload the podcast to Pornhub. There we go. It's up 327. There's got to be people asking for podcasts. We've got to be there. Imagine that. The hot new place for podcasts is Pornhub.

By the way, I should. probably play this since we're talking about hot new podcasts. Award season is in full swing and this morning we now know who's nominated for a Golden Globe, but for the first time, we now know which podcasts are nominated.

Podcasts. Oh, the podcast. Best podcast. Armature expert with Dax Shepard Wandering. Call a Daddy. Serious XM. Call a Daddy. Good hang with Amy Polar, Spotify.

Demel Robbins. podcast. Serious X-M. Smartless. Serious X-M. Up first. MPR. Okay, so those are some big names and big podcasts. Worth noting Smartless, which includes host Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnette. Well, Will's ex-wife is Amy Poehler. So they're in the same category. Oh, wow. Wow. So it could be a little friendly

competition. Now, I'm going to just say this, because I've already seen articles and I've already seen comments on social media. And people are saying I know. You already know. Why did Joe Rogan's podcast not get nominated? That's the L of you and I and a lot of people in the industry know firsthand, you have to submit your podcast. It's called for consideration. If Joe Rogan and his team did not want to submit their podcast,

they wouldn't have been nominated. $500. What? Yep. $500. I'm another scam award. well you know i'm still waiting for you to set it up you know i said i'm good to go the podcast awards yeah okay yeah what else one reminders all i'll need what else you're gonna do with your time well apparently i'm not gonna go out shopping you're watching n3d i got a clip here of uh well by the way, since you're talking about entertainment, I might as well play this, which is the Iceland boycott

of your favorite event. Oh, yes, of course. Iceland has joined four other European countries boycotting next year's Eurovision song contest because of Israel's participation. The Icelandic National Broadcasting Service said the European Broadcasting Union's decision last week to green light Israel had damaged the contest's reputation. Yeah, it turns out there's a little bit more to it. This is the divest, boycott divests and, what is it?

Boycott divest and some cell or something. Boycott divest something. These are all countries whose governments are still buying Israeli military technology. So it's coordinated. It's coordinated against the governments. The whole thing is dubious because you have Iceland. What has Iceland got to do with anything going on in the Middle East one way or the other? Yeah, it's nothing.

That's what. No, of course not. They don't care. So they're getting, oh, I'm going to, we're going to boycott. What garbage? This is like the lefties doing something. I have two clips. Now, let me play a clip here, because you interrupt.

to me before the whole donation segment. I did? Yes, I wanted to talk to you about solostalgia because you might be suffering from it. What is it? Solostalgia is a term calling to

describe the distressed people feel when their home environment is damaged. It's been linked to a significant mental health strain. A review published in BMJ Mental Health looked at research from countries including Australia, Germany, Peru and the United States.

It found that people experiencing solostalgia often due to climate change. Mining or natural disasters had higher rates of anxiety, depression, and psychological distress. The evidence also suggests that the stronger a person's emotional connection was to where they live, the greater their distress over changes or degradation to the environment. The study authors say more long-term research is needed to fully understand how solostolostom. affects mental health in the long term, but they urge communities and health professionals to recognize it as a real, measurable source

of psychological stress. Seven out of ten doctors and the American Psychology Association recommend listening to the No Agenda Show to reduce the symptoms of solostalgia. I've heard that. Yes. Now, I have a climate,

you might as well play my climate change WTF clip, which is pronounced Vlimit. Oh, Vlimit change, okay. 30 minutes keep up to date with NewsHour. At 21 GMT, it's the climate question, asking, what does the ocean do for us and the planet? The whole of our civilization and of human history has been shaped by the ocean because how the ocean moves dictates where the heat goes, it dictates what the weather's like on land. That's followed by health check. Wait a minute.

This is a teaser for a show, but if the oceans determine everything. about weather and climate and temperatures, then what does man have to do with it? That's what they said. I'm not even going to entertain this question. This is not a valid Ask Adam. This is too dumb. It wasn't an Ask Adam.

The Ask Adam was about Pornhub. Yes. You're losing track. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to figure out how to get us out of here. Here is... I get it, is that we're done? No, well, first we have to talk about how bad things are from vaccines.

Every year, egg and sperm donations help thousands of people with fertility issues start families of their own. But a Europe-wide investigation has found that one sperm donor, who fathered nearly 200 children, unwittingly passed on a genetic mutation that dramatically increased their risk of cancer. Celine, not her real name, is a single mother in France whose child was conceived 14 years. years ago. She received a call from her fertility clinic in Belgium, urging her to get her daughter screened. She told us of her fears over the possibility her child may develop cancer. We have translated her words. We don't know when. We don't know which one. And we don't know how many. I understand that there's a high chance it's going to happen. And when it does,

we'll fight. And if there are several, we'll fight several times. The most unacceptable thing for me is that I was given sperm that wasn't clean, that wasn't safe, that carried a risk that hadn't been properly tested. That's the most unacceptable thing for me. He was not aware, I believe, that he was a carrier of a mutated gene, so I have absolutely no hard feelings towards him. Some of the children have already died, and only a minority who inherited the mutation

will manage to avoid the disease entirely. So this was kind of interesting to me. there's a cancer gene now that they've isolated and they can say if this is in your sperm, then your kid will have cancer? Is that the takeaway from this? This is all part of the depopulation scheme. It's bull crap.

Yeah. The no agenda show, besides helping your solostalgia, also has available for a rubbleizer donation, clean sperm. California clean sperm. Adam's working on it as we speak. California clean sperm.

Usually during the show. I'm going to show myself by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, baby. Yeah, oh, no agenda in the morning.

Well, we have a very few people to thank on the second part here. In fact, it's very few. It's a total donations. We're poor for a Thursday to say the least. and it could be for a lot of different reasons. Give me one. Give me one. Give me one reason. The economy's not doing as well as Trump claims.

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You also go to no agenda rings.com. Let us know your ring size as a ring size guide on the website and we'll send it off to you and thank you for supporting the No Agenda show in a fantastic fashion. No agenda meetups. We got one meetup report.

It's a belated meetup report because they've sent the email and sent pictures. And I love it when people send pictures. of their meetups. We had two lovely ladies who just had a meetup together and that's completely valid.

Didn't do a report, but we did get a rather long report from the Spokane Turkey Tots. But it's fun. Everybody's in there. Wait, wait a minute. There was two women

that had a meetup and no guys showed up. That's correct. What's wrong with these guys? I don't know. And they had a, their server took a picture of them. They're hanging out. they love talking about all current events.

Love us. Love us. Love us to death. Let me see. What was their names? I should have probably written that down. Let me see. Meetup. Where is the meetup? Hmm. Ah, I don't know what happened to it. Send it again, ladies. I want to thank you.

Anyway, let's hear from the Turkey Trot Meetup. That would be this one. I, crackpot. Hi, Buzzkill. This is Grandma Flinner. And this is Bill. I'm the Queen V. We're inside now that it's raining,

but I was standing in the fires to make sure they are. Smoken hot just like me. Jack from Post Falls, coming and meeting wonderful people at the turkey trot today. Connection is protection. Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew here from the North Idaho Sanity Brigade, here hanging out much to my everlasting chagrin on the other side of the border in Washington to say thanks John and Adam for working on this Thanksgiving holiday like you do all holidays and this is Marshall brought our two human resources getting our boots wet at this turkey

trout in the morning this is Cody and this is Christina back at the Flint House doing some Thanksgiving stuff in in the morning person here with boots on the ground looking for the spook connection is protection in the morning Sharon here getting wet while doing some Puffin and Puffin to make room for some Thanksgiving Steffick in the morning. Anne-Marie here trotting with these flip turkeys and friends in the morning. Hi, this is Michelle in the morning. I can't believe Dennis put our turkey trot on the meetups, but connection is protection, and we welcome Gitmo Nation.

Love listening to your pod together on the road trips. Dennis made me say pod. He's such a douche bag. This is Dennis Flinner of the findings. So thankful for my smoking hot wife, Michelle, who makes all things pop. And we've never had a fight. John, it was pretty bad art. So I get how you could pass on my Dvorak duffel. But Adam, how could you pass on my deep fake dudes?

It wasn't even orange. That's bogut of man. I'm so offended. Shout out to the Smith clan in Anchorage. Several of them hit me in the mouth, but Paul Willie was the first. The real question is, are any, if any, of Paul, Dan, Pete, Matt, or Al, deuce bags? All the board. Ah, JCD sound machine making an entrance there.

It was Dame Patricia from Miami and Dame Aquamarine, who have the small group, say we're a small group, but meet regularly for happy hour and talk about current events through No Agenda Eyes. That's what I'm talking about. It doesn't have to be big. It can be as small as just two. Go to No Agenda Meetups.com. Find all of them there.

And if you really want to get that connection that gives you, protection and of course meet some people who will be your first responders in an emergency go to no agenda meetups.com you can't find one near you start one yourself either it's just two of you sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days you want to be where you won't be triggered or hell's lame you want to be where everybody feels the same I got a lot of ISOs here. We got a lot. Oh, we'll start.

Let's go. I don't think you're going to win from me today. Here we go. 10. I was just pass again. Here we go. 10 out of 10. That's amazing.

Okay. It's pretty impressive work. Mm-hmm. Whoa. Wow. Yeah. I like that one. Yeah.

If only something somewhere made sense somehow. It's cute, but not for sure. Yeah, and then... Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Yeah, all right. That's what I got.

So, you kind of like the... Whoa! Wow! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's pretty good. You want to go up against mine? You want to try it? I think I can...

Yeah, I mean, it's not great. It's good. Let's start with, uh, with Fab. You can listen to this fabulous. show for free? Wow. This, that is a bad ISO. People think it's free. Like, we, like free beer. Like, we, we don't need any donations. That goes against everything you stand for.

It's a good end-a-show clip because you can listen to it for free. Okay. Okay, let's go with podcasts. Why aren't all podcasts this great? Nah, it's too muddled. No. Yeah, she's a little muddy in that one. It's the same voice, believe it, and I just changed it tempo. No, I believe it.

Okay, try holy. Holy moly, gosh, darn. These guys are great. Yeah, I think it's between... You can listen to this fabulous show for free. Wow! Or... Whoa!

Whoa! Wow! You choose. I'm going to give it to you. Ah! Only because of the point you made. Time for the tip of the day. Greeted advice for you and me

Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Okay, it's back to the well with websites By the way, I got my knife. Oh, isn't that thing something? That is quite something. But I only took it out just for a moment Because I'm waiting for my chain mail gloves.

Because I'm afraid, you said, you know, and it's true, this is the kind of you can throw the tomato in the air and it'll slice on the blade. That's true. That's true. Yeah, so take a piece of paper and just you can not only cut through the paper but you can cut really slowly

through the paper. I'm afraid to handle it, man. It's like, you freak me out about that. It's like, yeah, it's a pretty sharp knife. You have to know what you're doing. It could hurt me. Yeah, I don't want to be hurt. I don't want you to get hurt either. I'm sorry you bought it. But that's a killer. And it's full of

67 times. You can see the little pattern on there where the blades been heated and cooled. And it was only 49 bucks. I mean, what a bargain. It was ridiculously cheap. It was a good deal. Yeah. Somebody sent me a note, one of our producers saying, you know, I don't know about

this tip of the day idea. You're telling people to buy knives and TVs and all this stuff. That's money that they could be donating to the show. That's what he said. And I didn't know how to react to that because he's right. Well, this next tip of the day is not going to be a effect. donations at all, because it's a website that I recommend people put on their list of websites. And it's called RXList.

RXList.com. Okay. And it's every drug that they sell generic and otherwise. It's a list of every drug with everything you need to know about the drug. For example, you look up a drug, it gives you the generic name, the brand name, or names, the drug class. And then it gives you a summary with all the contraindications, all the things that make you sick. And all the warnings and everything that you never get normally, including the dosage and everything.

So if somebody misdoses it, you got all this information. It's really a fabulous site. RX.com? RXList. Oh, RXList.com. Wow. So that's basically a list of stuff you don't want. Well, it's everything.

So maybe you want some of it. I'm not sure. Well, there it is. We're better than the FDA. It is John's Tip of the Day. Find them all at Tip of the Day. Dot net. Create advice for you and me, just the tip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnettie. By the way, I discovered that the tip of the day has Amazon affiliate links for all of your tips. No, it doesn't. Sure did. none of the tips that I gave Okay

There might be Amazon affiliate links on the tips That are on tip of the day.com That's what I'm saying That's what I'm saying The tip of the day. Oh well then they're making money off of us Then they should donate As long as they donate

As long as they donate Because I don't think no agenda fund does that Oh no no tip of the day dot net But as long as they donate something I'm okay with it Yeah well they should be donating a lot You know a good day They should be 20%

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