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Episode Date: December 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's really moon bases. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorra. And Sunday, December 21st, 2025. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1827. This is no agenda. Fully redacted. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:22 And from northern Silicon Valley where the weather is inclement. I'm John C. DeVorek. It's crackpot and buzzkill. Yes, inclement weather, inclement weather. Does that mean it's kind of gray? It's wet. Wet and gray. Beautiful here today. 68 degrees, blue sky, no cam trails. Just perfect. Just perfect. Perfect for a day of media deconstruction. Sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Oh, man. So much to talk about. Epstein, Epstein. Oh, no, Epstein. Oh, but, Epstein. Is anyone really surprised that there was nothing there? Why are people so mad? Because they, well, I have a couple of reports and the things obvious that that the only reason they wanted Epstein stuff, in fact, this was, I think, from the BBC, Epstein. If you listen to the report from, oh, actually, PBS,
Starting point is 00:01:28 Listen to the report, PBS1, this clip. You can tell what the only reason for the whole inquisition about the Epstein files is revealed right here. Overnight, the Justice Department released hundreds more heavily redacted pages of material it had gathered on convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. Still, what's been made public so far falls well short of the full disclosure required by the law Congress passed last month. These new releases come in addition to the thousands of pages of photos, correspondents, and other material released on Friday afternoon. And the Justice Department says there will be much more to come in the coming weeks. Among the latest batch released around midnight is a phone message slip that reads, She Has Females for Mr. J.E.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Jeff Mason is a White House correspondent for Reuters. Jeff, these new files, the files even though were released yesterday, tell us a lot about more detail about Jeff Epstein, but does it tell us anything about his relationship with Donald Trump, with President Trump? Get to it. Get to it. Get to it. Get to it. I have a couple of another. There's two more clips, but before we play that, did you see the, did you see Clinton's response to this when he was interviewing on one of the shows? No, I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, you're Clinton on Epstein. Listen to this. Okay. Democrats thought they could finally get Trump with the Epstein files.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But instead, all they got was pictures of you, buck naked, in the jacuzzi with some girls. Aren't you afraid of being arrested? Well, to be honest, I'm more afraid of that crazy bitch waiting for me back home. I'm not going back. That bitch kills people. She even killed Jeffrey. Fuck that. Can you say that?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Can I stay at your place? Okay, let's just slow down a bit. Okay, my. Even that, AI stuff is getting a little old, and it wasn't all that good. No, I agree. It wasn't that good, but I thought I'd slip it in. By the way, he wasn't buck naked. He was wearing swimming trunks. You can obviously see them. Yeah. I'm glad you corrected the AI on that. Yeah, well, wherever you rip that off of, like whatever hilarious podcast that did put that together and slaved over it.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Okay, back to PBS and Trump. Very little. And that's one thing that people were maybe anticipating getting more information. on. But the files have some mentions of Trump and some conversations, but no photos. One of the pieces of evidence that people were expecting was not in the release. And in general, the files were focused on other people in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit and not the current president of the United States. Even with that, this is now going to be spread out over several weeks. It's not going to be a one-day story, one-day headline. Does the White House have a strategy to deal with that? Well, their strategy so far has been largely to say, A, that they are being very
Starting point is 00:04:31 transparent by doing these document release and following the law. A statement from a White House spokeswoman yesterday pretty much said just that and accused Democrats of not answering questions about their connections with Jeffrey Epstein. I think broadly, the White House would be happy for this whole issue to go away, and that is evidenced by the fact that President Trump spent months trying to prevent these documents from coming out. That led to a lot of discord within his MAGA base and led to some divisions within Congress amongst Republicans. In the end, they ended up passing this law and the president signed it. But some Democrats and, in fact, at least one Republican, are saying that the administration did not follow the law with its limited release on
Starting point is 00:05:18 Friday. Oh, brother. Don't they understand how this works by now? Like, of course you don't put everything out you give them the first stuff everyone's disappointed following the law victims are protected what's a victim not defined anybody can be a victim and they put copperfield in there they got all the people they wanted luke brinelle jean luke brunel and it's like what were you expecting an entire trove of pictures of these dudes having sex with kids i want to see the videotapes i don't care what you say there's victims in those videotapes You can't show that. No, I think I know what's going on here,
Starting point is 00:06:00 but I'll wait until you're finished with your... Well, let's just play clip three and then... Then what? Then, then... Then, then. Well, one of those Republicans is the co-sponsor, representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He tweeted today that the release
Starting point is 00:06:15 grossly fails to comply with the law. What can they do? Can they go to court and sue over this? Well, that's a good question. I don't know if that's something that they're thinking of doing. Certainly I do know because this is what the Justice Department has said is that they're planning to release more, but they are saying that there are so many things that have to go through
Starting point is 00:06:35 that they just couldn't basically do it all in one batch, but that there will be multiple additional batches coming. But as you say, even the co-sponsor of the bill on the Republican side, Congressman Massey is upset about that. And also these documents are so heavily redacted. There are some pages that are just totally black from being blacked out. Is anybody talking about that or complaining about that? Yes, there are concerns about that.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I think in one case there were 100 pages of grand jury testimony that were redacted. Now, the law allows the Justice Department to release some of the files with redactions in specific instances with regard to victims of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes with regard to abuse. but the amount of the redactions surprised people who are expecting to get more information than they felt they received. And the law actually says they can't redact to protect the reputation of anybody, anybody. Do we have any idea when these additional files
Starting point is 00:07:39 are going to be released in the future? All we know is that they'll be coming out in batches in the coming weeks. So I would expect that journalists like ourselves will be watching this story over the holidays and probably well past that. And some of the questions that people were hoping to get answered in this first batch are the ones that will continue to be asked in terms of connections that other people had
Starting point is 00:08:01 and knowledge that other people had of Jeffrey F.T. and his crimes. Batches, batches, lots of batches. Yeah, I mean, this is, this was the obvious result to be expected. But they're going a little bit further. Let's just troll everybody a little bit more. Oh, no, no, that, that, we'll take that one down. Oh, no, 16 are gone. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:08:25 They were all Trump. Tonight, questions for the Department of Justice around their initial release of the Jeffrey Epstein files. More than a dozen photos that were available on the DOJ site Friday and disappeared without explanation. No! Including a photo of President Donald Trump. Photo of Trump. A few examples of Trump appearing in the documents release. NBC News has asked DOJ why the files were.
Starting point is 00:08:49 were deleted and have not heard back. It comes as the Department of Justice released never-before-seeing grand jury testimony, including from a witness who described how Epstein and his partner Galane Maxwell lured her into their orbit. The unnamed victim recalling a situation in 2005, where at the age of 14, Epstein convinced her to give him a massage for $200. The massage quickly turned sexual, and she was told, quote, the more you do, the more you make. Stories like this, a reminder of the horror. That's the same for podcasts. The more you do,
Starting point is 00:09:25 the more you make. Or you do, the more you make. Stories like this, a reminder of the horror of Epstein's crimes for the survivors demanding transparency. Some saying at this point, they feel like it's not enough. It failed in our book. We haven't received full transparency. It's heavily redacted. And it's an incomplete release of the files. Some Republicans, Democrats, and survivors are warning the DOJ that they're not living up to the law passed almost unanimously by Congress. The department says they'll release all the files within the next two weeks. An NBC news analysis of the material shows that in the first release, more than 680 pages have been redacted. So no surprise at all that we saw heavy redactions from DOJ because they had a lot
Starting point is 00:10:12 of editorial discretion in this case. But Congress believes they deserve an explanation. and plan to keep the pressure on the DOJ to make sure everything that should be made public is. I do think there's more here and it's worth more investigations to get to the bottom of this and put this to rest and respect the victims. No. Massey and Roe-Co-Rana. What do we call them? Rokana. Corona. Corona. That's even better, Corona. They wrote this law. I mean, if you look at the law, this was the obvious result that was going to take place. I don't know if they're in on the gag here.
Starting point is 00:10:49 By the way, they're not batches. Now, I'm surprised that PBS doesn't know what they're actually called. They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big massive dumps. Dumps. Dumps, you dummies. So a couple of things about the law.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You know, if you don't write the law with enforcement, enforcement, like penalties. Within the law. Penalties. Yeah. And enforcement, like creating an agency to enforce the law or a group or somebody. Nothing's going to happen. Nothing's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So it should have, it should have had an enforcement clause. This has to be enforced in such a way by such as such a person. And the penalties for not following the law would be, you know, 15 years in prison and blah, blah, blah, whatever. They didn't put that in there. If that's not in there, what's the point? Well, the point was, is to do exactly what's happening now. We need to continue. This has to keep going for, I don't know, maybe we can keep it going for another six months.
Starting point is 00:11:57 You know, get it a little closer to the midterms. Then roll out the last batch. Dump, dump, massive dump. I'm convinced that Mike bends is some form of limited hangout. I know I said it. And maybe not knowingly. but he did a five-hour, what he calls a super stream. I'm doing a super stream, everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Have you ever seen that guy? I have seen him, yes. Yeah. I mentioned him somewhere, and I got condemned for mentioning him. By whom? Somebody who condemned me. I don't know. A condemner.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Well, that's no good. And here's the way Mike Ben says, I've solved it. So, okay, I'll watch your super stream then, which I did. And I think he has the, he got the right information and he's on the right track. His thesis, which he can back up with quite a lot of, at least evidence that puts Epstein in the right place at the right time, is that he was much more of like a strategic middleman. And he was doing this back in the day, well, a little bit, yeah, probably back in the day.
Starting point is 00:13:08 We had BCCI. Now, I don't know if everybody remembers. The Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI, which had this spectacular collapse, as it turned out, that what this bank was, besides it being pretty much a Ponzi scheme, what they were doing is they were laundering money for intelligence agencies, certainly for the CIA, MI6. I think, I don't know, was Mossad in there as well? Everybody. I don't remember Mossad was involved. There was a great movie about it called, was it the internationalist? It was called The International.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. Oh, the international. There you go. The International. And so if you needed to arm the... Which is a great movie, by the way. It's a great movie to watch. And it's based on facts, truth, real story.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Real story. Kind of. Well, okay. So if you wanted to arm the Mujahideen, then you'd send the money through BCCI, and BCCI would take care of everything. Now, on the U.S. side... for our intelligence agencies in order to move some of that money around, we had Bear Stearns. This is where Jeffrey Epstein all of a sudden becomes the rising star.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Doesn't matter how much he steals from his expense account. He's a protected man within the bank. And he's moving money around. This was his talent. His talent was making all the connections, making sure everything worked, getting the money in, moving it around. Eventually he moves out to Epstein Island,
Starting point is 00:14:41 not for privacy for his little sex capades. And by the way, he was sick. He definitely, he was into all this stuff. So I'm sure there's all kinds of ancillary hanky-panky stuff going on and some blackmail, possibly. But he also had a bank, U.S. Virgin, the Virgin Islands. So he now could move money back and forth. He, you know, no scrutiny. It would seem North Sea Nexus kind of like, but not that I want to draw that in per se,
Starting point is 00:15:10 because it was really for our intelligence. Remember, when they were prosecuted, you're writing him up for the first prosecution. Oh, no, this guy, he belongs to intelligence. Yeah, he belongs to intelligence. He's moving the money. And how do you do that? Well, you know, you get rich people to hang around you
Starting point is 00:15:28 and rich people love hanging around really rich people and they love doing dumb rich people things. And, you know, yeah, cool dentist chair. I got some ideas what we can do with that. These, they're all, once you're that wealthy, you'd just become ill and sick and people with power. But that was his game. Then we have 2008, Bear Stearns collapses.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Weren't they the only one that collapsed? No, Lehman Brothers. Lehman as well. So everything had to be moved over to another bank, and that was J.P. Morgan. And that makes total sense in Mike Ben's super stream story because there's all these suspicious activity reports,
Starting point is 00:16:07 $800,000 here, a couple of millions. there. We don't know where it's going. We need some cash. Pay that person. For all we know, some of these women involved were carrying cash. I think that is much more likely to be the real story. And maybe, maybe this will come to light. It seems kind of doubtful. But the fact that Mike Benz was putting this together on a super stream at the same time, these, you know, these batches or batches were coming out. I think that's the real story. I just don't see, and if you really think about it, the whole, you know, pedophiles started, it really was an online thing. There was never any evidence for it.
Starting point is 00:16:54 It came on the heels of Pizza Gate and there's definitely creepy people involved in Pizza Gate. You know, the Podester Brothers, very creepy. Absolutely. And, you know, then we just had, you know, then it was the Democrats. all the Democrats are pedophiles and Trump. I like the idea of a pedophile cover for a bank scam. I think it's a good one. Yeah, because it draws all your attention.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Well, it certainly has. And of course, all we want to see is Trump being a pedophile. That's all we want to see. So none of it really seems to pan out ever. But maybe someone will be unmasked, uncovered. I mean, it seems unlikely because. What PR value does that even have? Would people even care? Oh, what? He was he was laundering money for us to pay, you know, arm the Mujahideen or the Iran Contras. Oh, that's boring. Show me the pizza. It is boring. So it's true. No, it's not interesting. No. And of course, Trump can't get a district attorney appointed at the moment. Everyone's stopping stuff. So I think that this is just going to keep on going. Hopefully there's some sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:18:09 official lamb somewhere along the line at the end that we can point to just before the midterms. I think that's what the ultimate idea would be. And it makes a lot of sense with Maxwell. You know, that was her family business was doing that stuff. With Adon Khashoggi, by the way. Familiar name? Khashoggi?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, the guy they shot. Yeah, but his dad was the international arms dealer. Yeah, the one of the world's richest men. Yeah, buddies with Maxwell. So all of that kind of fits in a lot better than anything else. And of course, when you have this kind of money and, you know, Epstein had to have his own cover. Oh, I'm an international financier. But what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Well, I finance things internationally. What do you finance? Oh, science. MIT Media Lab. No, he's a bag man. He's just a bag man. And he probably did a really good job. I'm still surprised we don't have anything from Zorro Ranch that seems like that's something that's missing.
Starting point is 00:19:15 No one ever talks about it. Zoro Ranch, it seems like that was the real ground zero. The thing that bothers me the most is that he always seemed to be, you know, never seemed to be the head guy. And Wexler never comes up in the conversation. Ever. No. And Wexler has to be one of the main players here because he's the one to put the house together. and who knows what else he did.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Totally could be part of some It was Wexler's property in New York that Epstein lived in. Yes. Yeah. So, but we're also And you remember then we got the Wayfair? Remember, oh, Wayfair.
Starting point is 00:19:54 They're shipping kids in boxes. You remember that? No, I don't remember that. You know what Wayfair is. Wayfair is the furniture company, the furniture email company that make cheap furniture. Yeah, and they would say,
Starting point is 00:20:06 look at this cabinet it's priced at $99,000 there's a kid inside that's why I can't that's funny you don't remember that that was I don't remember that that was a big thing I wonder do we still have a did we do clips on it do we even talk about it yeah no we definitely talked about it let me see way find me a clip I don't know may not may I don't seem to have anything I'm pretty sure we did something on it. Anyway, meanwhile, what no one's talking about is Operation Relentless Justice, which was announced on Friday, 205 child victims located 293 child sex abuse offenders arrested in nationwide crackdown. Seems like that's kind of important. You didn't even hear about it. No, the mainstream media is focused on Epstein and Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And this was, this was Texas, Raleigh, North Carolina, Miami, the Greggie's cult. I mean, these are all good names. Yeah, they can't do, they don't want to, I hate to say this, but it seems to be a fact. They really don't want to even bring it up because it makes them look bad because they're supporting, you know, the idea that ICE are bad people and they should be protested against. And let's keep it at that. Yeah. So I think this will just carry on. They'll continue to wait for something on Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:42 They're like morons. They're really dumb. And we'll see. So CBS did say that there were videos released. Did you see, were there no videos that anybody saw? I didn't see any videos. Photos tonight of many of the powerful who ran in convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's circle. Bill Clinton seems swimming at a pool with Galane Maxwell and another woman with her face redacted.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Clinton with another unknown woman on his lap. Celebrities, too, including Michael Jackson and Diana Ross, Epstein with Mick Jagger, and Chris Tucker with Maxwell. Many of the records are heavily redacted, and survivors say suspiciously so, including Epstein Grand Jury Records. We do see Epstein's book of contacts with the name of President Trump, his late wife, and his daughter, Ivanka. A list of girls or young women listed as masseuses keeps the names private, but shows there were more than 250. How confident are you at the end of the day, at the end of this period, you'll get everything? I don't feel tremendously confident that everything will come out. Survivors, including Annie Farmer, have been fighting for years for the release of records and say they're frustrated.
Starting point is 00:22:50 These records are incomplete. There's been a lot of effort and money and time put into redactions, not to protect victims, but to protect people in power. So these two people, you only hear the woman talking, she is a family member. member of Virginia Gwifrey, Giffray, and they both have giant monarch butterfly pins on their sweaters during this interview. We know what that means. Well, that's pretty peculiar. M.K. Ultra.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It's meant to trigger. I mean, that's a symbol, yeah, but what is the connection there? MK.K. Ultra. Yeah, I know, but what are they trying to accomplish if true? Oh, anyone who has information when the minute they see the butterflies, they're programming, and then they're back into brainwash mode. That's how it supposedly works. I know, you're skeptical. I'm very skeptical.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You're skeptical. But it's okay. And Mick Jagger, you know, oh, Mick Jagger, yeah, the photos you don't see are the 30 photos of him in concert. I mean, they clearly went to the Rolling Stones concert, took pictures backstage, maybe had a dinner in the hotel. Michael Jackson and Diana Ross. Oh, yeah, they're probably involved. You know, but see. It seems unlikely.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Of course. So cool your jets, everybody. You're getting absolutely nothing. Nothing. And everywhere things are going to start falling apart in the potosphere, or as you aptly said on Grimerica, the podcast circle jerk. I think is that what you said? Something like that.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It was good. People are reposting up. Yeah, look at DeMorax. Yeah, podcast circle jerk. Well, we're going to complete the circle jerk. This came out this morning. This is an important information. As most of you that pay attention know, I am not the internet police.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Was anyone confused? Does I want to make sure? Did anyone think Alex Jones was the internet police? Okay. Just checking? I don't invite. I don't try to focus on what other people are theorizing about or doing. I try to focus on what I'm doing. Wait, wait, stop. Is he in his car? No, he's outside, though. It is the selfie cam.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah. He's in the woods. He's in the woods. He's in the woods. He's in nature. He's in the woods. Okay. He's his latest thing. He used to always be behind the table, but now he's floating around. Now he's in the woods. No, he's in the woods. This is important. This is what do. And so it's with a heavy heart that I am forced to put out another report, either tonight or tomorrow morning. We're adding a lot of information right now, a lot of more research, dealing with Candace Owens just as soon as the whole Egyptian plane thing gets debunked with all the facts. Now she's moved with something else, and I'm really worried about her. I'm worried about her and her mind, and I'm also worried about the country and where this is going. It's good
Starting point is 00:25:58 to question Charlie Kerr's assassination. I have big questions. We know cash felt covered up an investigation to accomplishes. I broke that. I'm up before it hit the mainstream news. Yeah, I did it. So I'm not saying no question. I broke that months ago. But her latest source in what she's done,
Starting point is 00:26:11 implicating the U.S. military, and all this other stuff is just so damaging. When you go investigating it, it's so crazy. And just like with the Egyptian plane, she says she has the metadata, then publish it. And when she did publish it, and they got fact checked,
Starting point is 00:26:27 it wasn't accurate. Candace, we care about you. but you just double down again with something even more absurd and I hate watching you destroy yourself like this we'll be covering it all with the report that's coming out of Reloog Jones on Axel and Rumble at M4Words.com God bless you all.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You know that it's bad when Alex Jones is calling you out. Yeah, I have to play two clips about Candace that showed up on Gutfeld. Okay. Mainly because Michael Malice said something that I thought was interesting. You would find it interesting. And Alex Jones just used the term double down. So let's play, let's see, Candace, just a little clip from.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Michael on Owens. No, Owens on Pierce Morgan. This was the setup. Brigitte McCrone has a penis. I really want to know that. Brigitte McCrone does not have a penis. Brigitte McCrone has a penis. No, she doesn't.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I'm sorry. She had free children. Did she get it removed? She had three children? Yeah, you can have adoptive children. You can call somebody. But Brigitte McCrone was born a dude named John Michelle Trov. No.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And I just feel, I want you to know that. I want you to know that Brigitte McCrone probably stands peeing up. Probably pee standing up. The beauty is, we have a big bet. I think Brigitte stands. And we're going to find out because it's going to court. And, you know, you will lose that court case. I think you know you will.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah. I am not going to lose a court case because Brigitte is presented. evidence that Brigitte was born a woman because that's never even been offered. That's just their PR coming after and saying these things. Nobody believes that Brigitte McCrone is just unable to present any pictures. Nobody's asking for blood.
Starting point is 00:28:10 All right. Let's wait for the court case. Let's wait for the court case. Okay, great. And you will be proven wrong again. Unless there's just federal corruption. Okay. Federal corruption. She went off. So, can I just say,
Starting point is 00:28:24 do I just say one thing about proof of stuff like that? they humiliated in fact camilla harris i believe humiliated michael jackson and forced him to show his penis to the court of course it was you know it wasn't published because of certain uh distinguishing marks that had been claimed by children he allegedly had sex with or fooled around with why can't they do the same to brigitte mcrone they just might But the point is, is that they went around the horn, and out of the blue at the very end, Michael Malice said the following thing that I thought you'd be interested in. Before you, any conspiracy theory, I have to ask myself, what would need to be true for this to be true? She has had biological children. Yes. And they say her brother vanished and now the brother replaced her.
Starting point is 00:29:17 The brother is still alive. Yeah. And he's given interviews. So this doesn't make any sense on any level. Yeah. It's just like, what is, I mean, is she insane? I think it's BPD, and when they have that, they just always double down. Yeah, which is borderline bipolar disorder.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Borderline personality. Oh, personality disorder. Oh, okay. And he said the phrase, they always double down. Oh, the reason John is bringing this up is my ex-wife had, I believe, I can't prove it, had this disorder. has and yeah well when he said they always double down and he said it matter-of-factly in such a way that he's had relationships with a woman i'm guessing or or he has a relative who has bipolar or not bipolar borderline personality disorder the way he said it and then when
Starting point is 00:30:19 alex jones said double down in the clip you played which just kind of it up. I brought it up, not to point out anything in your past, but have you noticed the double down thing? What does that even mean? Here's how I experienced it because it wasn't in the context of doing a podcast, which I saw now I really have to think about it, but it wasn't even a double down. It was a constant down. So something would trigger it and it could be the smallest thing. it go from zero to 150 in 30 seconds and it would and then it was just bam, bam, bam, blah, blah, just verbal. Oh, well, until it wasn't verbal, but verbal, verbal, and then double down, triple down, quadrupled down, this is it, and then poof, it would disappear just like snow before the sun.
Starting point is 00:31:19 and then the person wouldn't even know actually what had happened. So now I have to look at Candace in that light. Oh, crap, no, I got to watch it again. So, yes, it's kind of an insane thing. Like, yes, I'm right. This is absolutely right. This is the truth. This is how it is.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And just keep on going. So I guess that's what she was doing right there with Pierce Morgan. Yeah. Got a penis, got a penis, got a penis. All right, end of show mixers, there you go. Got a penis, got a penis, got a penis. I don't think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Oh, I think so now. I don't think so. Well, that's, that, and that would make, you know, in light of her friendship with Kanye, that would, that kind of fits. Oh, that's a nice twist. That kind of fits in a way. Yeah. Well, I guess that could take us right to the new sci-up of the day.
Starting point is 00:32:19 which I think you identified this on X, Nick Reiner. All of a sudden, all of a sudden, oh, it changed his meds. All of a sudden. He did something with his meds. He went crazy. Do you have any clips on that?
Starting point is 00:32:35 Do I? I don't think so. Because this just came up, and it came up mostly. It didn't come up in so far as clips are concerned because it wasn't any reports on it. Except to start showing up. And when it showed up, it showed up, bang, bang, bang.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah, here I have a couple clips, hold on NBC. Tonight, we're learning more about the mental state of Nick Reiner, now charged with two counts of first-degree murder for the killings of his parents, Hollywood actor and director Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle. A judge in Reiner's case signed a sealed medical order on Friday. According to three sources with direct knowledge of the case, the 32-year-old was being treated for a serious psychiatric disorder at the time of the crime. The sources tell NBC News,
Starting point is 00:33:16 Reiner had been diagnosed some years ago with schizophrenia and was on, medication, which had been changed or adjusted before the killings. How does this new information in what we're learning potentially impact the case moving forward? It's almost certain that mental health will either be a defense or an issue that's raised right now as far as Nick Reiner's competency to move forward with the legal proceedings. Nick Reiner did not enter a plea during his first court appearance Wednesday, his attorneys standing to obscure his face and later urging the public not to rush to judgment. There are very, very complex and serious issues that are associated with this case.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Legal analysts say if Reiner does stand trial, his defense may be setting the stage for an insanity plea, which means that the defendant says, I did it, but I was insane at the time. That is an incredibly high bar. Kind of fits with your, where did that superstar defense attorney come from? He just popped out of nowhere. There's a couple of things that can't be explained. Where does that guy come from? I've watched and watched and watched.
Starting point is 00:34:21 No one has come up with anybody that referred him or how he got there in the first place. The second little thing that keeps cropping up is that if he gets off on a... Insanity plea. Insanity plea. It's the only way he can collect any of the inheritance. Wow, the perfect crime. And it's a substantial amount of inheritance. and it's believed that the attorney will get a big piece of it.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, of course. So he dreams this up because there is no reference to schizophrenia. By the family, by Rami, by anybody, and they ever said, well, you know, he's, they always thought he was a violent kid and his, and his associates talked to him about, talk about him, you know, in other words, his friends had talked about him being, kind of a spoiled brat and this sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And there's no mention of schizophrenia. That was watching this is like a six-minute video. I think the New York Post published it. And it's someone kind of doing like a profile piece on this Reiner kid. And, you know, he's a rapper and he's walking down the street and he's spitting lyrics. And it's all in kind of this weird accent. and he says, I love Trump. Trump's my boy, which I just thought was interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's doing Coke, you know, smoking weed. But either that was an entire, well, if you're schizophrenic, I guess that would be an entire personality. He kept that going pretty long. But he had, you know, hangers on and all kinds of odd people that latch on to a person like this, you know, because they can hang out in the guest house. Here's KTLA, closer to the source. Prosecutors say 32-year-old Nick Reiner murdered his parents,
Starting point is 00:36:21 stabbing Rob and Michelle Reiner to death in their bedroom. The fact that Nick battled drug addiction for much of his life is no secret. But now TMZ is reporting, citing unnamed sources. Unnamed sources. That's the troubled son of Hollywood royalty, had been diagnosed with schizophrenia, a brain disorder, and that medications he was taking were not working properly. but making him more erratic, dangerous, and out of his head.
Starting point is 00:36:48 What's more, TMZ says this information points to a defense of not guilty by reason of insanity. KTLA spoke with doctors who say the idea that antipsychotic medication can make a patient more violent or dangerous is unbelievable. They say a problem would be the absence of medication. The incidence of violence with schizophrenia is basically no different than any other regular human being. If you add things like substance abuse, not taking medication, other factors, dangerous factors, does increase the risk of violence. You know, on average, across about five years, there's an odds of about 2.8% of people with schizophrenia will have violent actions compared to 0.8% of regular people. Hmm. So they're going to have to prove a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:38 court. Interesting report came out today because the Reiner's Conan O'Brien's Christmas party. I thought Conan O'Brien, I never really pegged Conan O'Brien to be such a Hollywood guy.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Did you ever think of him that way? Well, he was always a writer. He was with the Simpsons for a while. He's, uh, yeah, kind of. But you had to have the Reiner's over, the Obamas and I don't know if the Obamas were there, but
Starting point is 00:38:07 You know, he has this big Christmas party. And so that's where the fracas started. It wasn't at his house. It was at a restaurant. Okay. That a restaurant. But at his party. And it got...
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, it was a private restaurant party. So according to page six, oh, actually, it comes from the Daily Mail, even more credible. That they got... It got so bad and so loud that people wanted to... call the police. They wanted to call 911. And Conan said, hey, this well, he said, it's my house, my
Starting point is 00:38:43 party. So I don't know if he says, it's my house. It's supposed to be a restaurant, but it could have been his house. So he talked everybody out of calling 911. How do you feel now if that's true? I don't know if that's even, you know, dude. It's in the Daily Mail, man.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Yeah, I guess the Reiner's left and the, and Rick stayed behind. Nick. Nick. Nick, Rick. Nick stayed behind and started grilling people about if they're famous and he was making a scene of some sort. Well, yes. David is his hip-hop name. David. That's crazy. Well, he'll get some creds.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah. Yes, street creed. It's all incredibly sad. the other M5M fracas this week was the announcers for the Flyers game oh my lord we have to we got to jump in we have to penalize them for games this is horrible this went out over the airwaves I can't believe what the announcer said on a hot mic did you hear what he said on the hot mic John no I did not hear what he said on the hot mic Adam in Philadelphia we said And sometimes the flyers get a sense of urgency when they're playing from behind. Now they're going to take the TV time out. We'll take it as well.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Seven gone in the third. It's 3-2 Buffalo on the Philadelphia Flyers Broadcast Network. While you're down there, would you mind blowing me? I think we're still on the air, Tim. I love that. This is like the oldest. This joke in broadcasting, someone's doing some wires or fixing your mic cable. Yeah, down to your feet.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah, and everyone's made this joke. Hey, where you're down there, would you mind blow me? And he says it and it's still, and they're still on the air. Everyone loses their mind. Like, that's every podcast ever. That sounds like it was set up. No, I can see that happening. The problem is I'm having now is I'm having trouble with the setup stuff that I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:40:58 way too much of. Well, the best example is the person going up to the porch picking up a package. The package, they run out to their car, and the package blows up and throws paint all over them, the car, their whole area. Well, most of those are AI. Well, most of those are bull crap. I mean, there's one original guy. And there's hundreds of them.
Starting point is 00:41:21 There's hundreds of. No, those are all bull crap. But there's one original guy who really put in the work with the technology and had, you know, pumps and all kinds of stuff to spray fart spray that guy's fantastic yeah well it's become a joke and it's like and i think it's being done by amazon studios oh that would make sense wouldn't it yeah to keep people from stealing packages and i think it's pretty and there's another there's another fake one that's going around i've seen at least four examples it's a news supposedly a newscast the eyewitness crime reporter something's always got the same set
Starting point is 00:41:57 sometimes two different people and then they have and then they show a picture of a and then we have a drawing of the suspected assailant and then they put a picture up and there's some stupid drawing like a you know just a round face with two dots for eyes oh with the hair the hair on the side of the head
Starting point is 00:42:17 or whatever and then they show the guy and it's the same guy and they crack up and one of them falls off his chair I have seen four versions of this and it's always the same same there's no reference to any station. It's bull crap. There's so much bull crap being put on the... Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Are you telling me that AI slop is ruining your social media experience? No, I don't think this is done staged. It doesn't have to be AI. I think you're underestimating AI. This stuff has gotten pretty good. This doesn't look like AI to me. But whatever the case, it's just another phony baloney thing. But the package is blowing up.
Starting point is 00:42:57 is completely out of control. And then they have one with the electricity starts and this. And you can see the person, you know, in fact, you see somebody lift the package. There's nothing in the package. It's obvious. You can't have a gallon of paint. Gallon of paint weighs a lot.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I don't know if anyone's picked a gallon of paint up, but it's not like light. No, so anyway, so I'm seeing more and more of the stage, which of course throws me, which you should follow up with, you should say to me, well, don't you think some of these women that you keep putting on on the show or the TikTok complainers are phony? Well, why would I do that if you're doing my work for me? I'm doing your work for you because I was watching a couple today and it was like, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:43:42 No, of course not. And even the ones that are real, they're just very sad, very lonely people who just want some likes to feel warmth. That's all. it's becoming a an embarrassing mess a nuisance it's a nuisance actually on my feet it is a nuisance well this is like the same the same thing you pointed out which is these
Starting point is 00:44:07 cooking demos where somebody dumps a bunch of crap in a pan and they start storing it up and then they put tons of cheese and they mix it up and then they throw this and cans of this and that and mix it up and then they serve it to the kids who go yum and it's just gross, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It's great. The internet has deteriorating. Well, it's, you know, that has a term in shittification. That's the term. But, yeah, yeah, it's, this is exactly what, this is, this is entropy of the social networks. You don't even need AI for it. Once you let everybody go, man, that's a huge conversation.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Or a podcast indexed social. Like, well, the Americans with a section 230, bleh, ble, blah, blah. I said, listen, without section 230, there would be no social media networks, period. It wouldn't happen.
Starting point is 00:45:08 There's no way. There would be too many lawsuits and tort and libel and it would never, ever end. Well, if you know, Americans, you could read that, here in Australia, blah, blah, blah. Here in Australia, we have, you know, we have sensible laws. You can't say Nazi. Oh, you mean you have, you don't have free speech over there.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Well, they all think that it's about, you know, what you can say. Man, my daughter's here. I just got to tell you, she and her, her fiance, Kevin, so they're giving me like boots on the ground of Rotterdam. Holy crap. Like what? First of all, it's a complete narco state. everybody is involved in the drug trade one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:45:55 If they're an accountant, they're an accountant for drug, drug pushers, dealers, you know, wholesalers, whatever. Of course, the macro mafia, it's a lot of Moroccans who are mainly in the drug trade, but not exclusively. One building a week is being blown up, just a whole building, all drug-related. there are schools that are for Muslim children only. They don't learn Dutch.
Starting point is 00:46:24 They only learn Arabic. They honor killings are regular business. Of course, all the asylum seekers are all getting housing free in a market where there's 400,000 home shortage for the Dutch. These kids, they want a two-bedroom apartment. they can't actually find one because there's, you know, the minute it goes on the market, there's 10,000 people ahead of them within five minutes. And then you have, there's these required salary, you have to prove a salary requirements. So you have, if we're a two-bedroom apartment together, you have to make 115,000 euros a year.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Well, no. And I said, well, can't you work more and then just get up to, to that level? Oh, no. The law, you can't work more than 32 hours a week. See, even if you want to work harder to make more money, you can't. No. No. That's a 32-hour work week for everybody. Justice is completely gone. Like there was some asylum seeker who he stabbed multiple people, killed one of them. Evidence in court. show they've been watching extremist imams and ISIS beheading videos. He watched videos in
Starting point is 00:47:51 preparation of his attack. Had Islamic chants on his phone that he played over his own little loudspeaker. Shouted Al-Aqbar while pulling out two knives, stabbing random tourists. What does he get? No jail time because of his mental
Starting point is 00:48:08 condition. I mean, wow. So I don't even know how I got there, but what were we talking about? You talked about your daughter came and was, is visiting, and you got an earful, and then I said, what? Yeah, I triggered it. Yeah, I can't remember what was going on before that.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Well, we were talking about something else. Yeah, something important. So, on top of all that, they're going to steal more of their money as we have a final decision, a final deal. We figured out how to do it. We know how to fund Ukraine. All eyes were on Brussels as EU leaders met for a make-or-break summit, determined to find a way to lend billions of euros to Ukraine. By the early hours of Friday, a deal was done. As a matter of urgency, we will provide a loan, backed by the European Union budget. This will address the urgent financial needs of Ukraine, and Ukraine will
Starting point is 00:49:13 only repay this loan once Russia pays reparations. Until then, the immobilized Russian assets will remain immobilized, and the Union reserves its right to make use of the cash balances to finance the loan. The main option had been to tap some of the 200 billion euros of Russian central bank assets frozen in the EU. But that scheme fell by the wayside when Belgrade. James P.M. pushed back. His country hosts the bulk of the assets and feared Moscow retaliation in the courts or perhaps by other means. Germany's Chancellor called this decision a show of Europe's independence. Today we were really put to the test. We are confronted with a question
Starting point is 00:50:00 of whether we really understood the challenges of geopolitics, whether we really saw the provocations of a new world order and whether we had anything to counter them with. And I want to say that the answer is a resounding yes. The EU says Ukraine needs another 135 billion euros to stay afloat over the next two years, and the cash crunch could hit as soon as April. So here's how I understand this deal. Instead of just stealing the money, they've now come up with some word salad. First of all, because of the powers they have under emergency situation, they no longer have to re-ratify every six months that the Russian assets are frozen. So now they're frozen indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Instead of stealing the money, we're going to take the money and call it a loan, backed by the European Union's own budget money, and Ukraine gets that loan, then doesn't have to pay it back unless Russia pays reparations. Which is that. Of course they'll never do that,
Starting point is 00:51:07 and that would Russia be paying their own pocket to get the money that was. essentially stolen in the first place. So they are stealing the money. They're just calling it a loan. I don't know if the international financial people see it that way, but this is just a different wording for we're stealing it. Well, somebody pointed out that this is going to,
Starting point is 00:51:32 I mean, the Europeans have to realize that this is not the way to encourage people to invest in Europe. well so that they've they've taken a different track they're going to steal your money yeah you send your money over there and then they're basically nationalize your money that's exactly what they did that's what they did yeah and called it alone i didn't steal your money man i just borrowed it temporarily okay homes don't work can i get it back no you can't get it back no no i'm waiting for those guys to get it back then you have my money and you haven't given it back this this is this is no good. No. But at the same time, don't worry, citizens, because we're pretty much on track. We've
Starting point is 00:52:14 approved the digital euro. We'll start rolling it out 2027, 2029. It'll be in full effect. And your money belonged to Fifi Lagarde. I know these are important moments for the digital euro because we have done our work. We've carried the water. Carried the water. For the European Council and certainly later on for the European Parliament. It isn't carrying water typically seen as a negative? He's carrying water for Putin. Yeah. Yes. It's a negative
Starting point is 00:52:44 it's a it's a, what do you call it when you soft pedal the negative comment? But it's yes. Bullshit? No, no, it was something else. There's a term I'm looking for. I don't have it. Pardon me, Lord. Yeah. All right, let's go back. We've carried the water. But it's
Starting point is 00:53:01 now for the European Council and certainly later on for the European Parliament to identify whether the commission proposal is satisfactory, how it can be transformed into a piece of legislation or amended. Our ambition is not to be role models. Our ambition is to make... That's great.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Hey, we don't want to be role models here. We're going to actually screw you. So we're not role models. We're just thieves. Our ambition is not to be role models. Our ambition is to make sure that in the digital age, there is a reason. is a currency that is the anchor of stability for the financial system. For the moment, that anchor is central bank money,
Starting point is 00:53:47 which essentially has material form. It's the bank notes that you have a new wallet. But in the digital age, it has to be a digital expression of that sovereignty and a digital anchor for the purpose of... Around your neck. The financial system. Wait, wait, back it up. Does she say it has to be?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Let me listen again. But in the digital age, it has to be a digital expression of that sovereignty and a digital anchor. It has to be. It has to be. Stop a second. What does it have to be? A digital. She says it has to be.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Oh, in the digital age, it has to be. She says a digital expression of your central bank. It has to be. Well, yes, of course. What does it have to be? What makes it have to be? Listen, she's wearing. a green sash like she belongs to Starfleet command, it's really insane with this woman's
Starting point is 00:54:42 fashion choices. Like a broad, like one of those Miss Universe type sashes, only it's green and has some kind of in nondescript bug on it. She feels like Captain Pike, you know, it has to be, has to be a digital expression. But in the digital age, it has to be a digital expression of that sovereignty and a digital anchor for the purpose of the financial system that we have. So that's what we're pursuing. In addition to making sure that it is user-friendly, not costly, fast, efficient, private, that it can work online, offline. I mean, I could go on and on because you know that I've followed that very carefully.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, why bother? Colleagues, and both Lewis and myself are very strong supporters of, of this initiative and we place great hopes in the work that will be done in Parliament once the Council has made its view, as determine its views. Howman, how many, how many, how many, how many. That's, I mean, it is a literal, central bank digital currency, but don't worry. It'll be private. You can, even if you're offline, you can exchange it with people.
Starting point is 00:56:02 We'll sink it back up later. Yeah, what could go wrong with that? seems highly unlikely. But sounds like a good way to rob them. I mean, seriously, so if I buy something and my phone is an offline mode or I exchange something with you and I just trash the phone, I'm good to go, aren't I? I'm sure there's better scams than that, but this is scamable. Possibly.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I mean, the printed bills are scammable. You have to counterfeit them. It's a lot of work. But I think this is going to ease it, make it easier for especially the people that are talented black hat types. And I'm sure it's all going to run on XRP. So everybody with XRP are going to be a billionaire. So amidst all of that, I'm just going to bop back to Russia for a second. It looks like peace talks are not really moving the way they wanted at Steve's club in Miami.
Starting point is 00:57:06 A gated golf course... What? I was going to say they're not moving at all. It's just a lot of drinking. A gated golf course in Florida becomes the latest hub to host these talks as U.S. negotiators meet separately with both sides to try to end the war.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Russia's envoy spoke briefly to reporters after arriving in Miami. The discussions are constructive. They began and continued on Saturday and will also continue on Sunday. Thank you very much. But speaking in Kiev, with Ukrainian president for Lodomé Zelensky
Starting point is 00:57:37 urged the U.S. to put more pressure on Moscow. America must clearly say, if not diplomacy, then there will be full pressure. There will be a very strong weapons package for Ukraine. There will be a very strong support for Ukraine. The United States will impose sanctions fully on the entire economy on all sectors that bring money to the Russians. Without this, it's simply impossible.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Putin does not yet feel the kind of pressure that should exist. For months, the Trump administration has led high-profile talks. While Kiev has made some concessions, Russian President Vladimir Putin, made it clear on Friday he is not in the mood to negotiate. We are ready and willing to resolve the conflict by peaceful means on the basis of the principles that I set out in June of last year at the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and provided that the causes that led to this crisis are eliminated.
Starting point is 00:58:35 For both sides, that means territory. The U.S. is proposing security guarantees for Ukraine, but Kyiv would need to seed land. Something Zelensky said on Saturday would have to be put to the Ukrainian people in a referendum. Hold on a second. He can't hold elections, but a referendum is no problem? Why does no one ever question that little tidbit? That's a good catch. President Putin wants the whole of the Dombas region and more and says Russia can take it by force
Starting point is 00:59:04 if Keeve doesn't cede to Moscow's terms. Europe, and they're all siopping this tiny dancer. Say no, say no, son, say no. Just say no, keep saying no. We got your back. Our kids are ready to die for you. No. Well, it's a question how long,
Starting point is 00:59:23 how much longer this can continue. Well, this money's going to run out. Yeah, because it doesn't get used for anything other than lining people's pockets. Yeah, the stealing it, no doubt. No doubt. See, I had one more clip here. I think it was the BBC.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Was it NBC? Somebody asked Putin. Putin did another one of those five-hour TV shows. He's more than, he's like Trump. I think Trump got it from him. Like, hey, I can do that. I just don't own a station yet. Yack, yack, y'ak.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Our Keir Simmons is in Moscow tonight and questioned Vladimir Putin directly. You pressed him on President Trump's peace plan? That's right, Tom, President Putin answering questions for four and a half hours. Another Brit! Calling claims Moscow is planning to attack Europe nonsense and promising there will be no more wars after Ukraine if Russia is treated with respect. And with more talks underway, I asked him about President Trump's push for peace. Push for peace.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Mr. President, if you reject President Trump's peace offer, will you be responsible for the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians in 2026? What kind of an air-hole question? question is that. I mean, seriously. How are you supposed to respond? Oh yeah, I take full responsibility for everyone who dies. That's right. Russians in 2026. We're not consider ourselves responsible for the death of people. It wasn't us who started this war. The ball is entirely in the court of our Western so-called opponents. It was Russia that invaded Ukraine in 2022, Tom, and Secretary of State Marker Rubius said today, the U.S. is not pressuring either side, just trying to see if a deal is possible.
Starting point is 01:01:08 President Putin says Russian forces are advancing on the battlefield, while today Ukraine said it had hit a Russian oil tanker. Tom? Tom? Tom? Tom? Tom? Tom? So. Yeah, that's enough. Yeah, that's enough. That's all we have. They stole the money. They called it alone. It's just great. It's just so... I wish that something would kick off so the kids wouldn't even be able to. to go back. I'll just keep them here. You're going to have to tie them up. They're going to go back. Yeah, I know. I know. So let's, I have a, I have some clips from the Brown University Killer thing that. Yes, this is interesting. It's an interesting case.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah, and here's the thing. I, I've named, I've had three clips and this, they're all called Brown Killer Far-Fetched. Yes. So, in other words, everything seems pretty screwy if he had. But this whole thing seems like it doesn't sound right. It doesn't make sense. And they're all going, you know, they're all, you know, wiping their hands. We did it.
Starting point is 01:02:12 We're good. We're good to go. Let's end this whole thing and go do something else. But listen to this. Here we go with part one. The suspect in the Brown University campus shooting and the murder of a professor from Massachusetts Institute of Technology has been found dead in New Hampshire. We brought you that here on Fox. Authorities say Claudio Nevis Valenti died from a self-infliction.
Starting point is 01:02:31 died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He's a former student at Brown with ties to the MIT educator. Correspondent Brooke Taylor is in Providence, Rhode Island tonight. This was always going to be an investigation where something was going to break it open. Providence leaders and police touting themselves for their work after days... First of all, what kind of... I've never heard a statement like that. This whole thing was an investigation. We knew from the beginning something was going to break it wide open.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I've never heard someone say that. We're hoping for a tip. We're looking for leads. We're trying to figure this out. No, we knew something was going to blow this wide open. That's your far-fetch bit right there. That's a far-fetched one. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I know. I know. In Rhode Island tonight. This was always going to be an investigation where something was going to break it open. Providence leaders and police touting themselves for their work after days of criticism for the pace of investigation and chaotic press conferences. After a six-day manhunt across multiple states, police identified a 48-year-old former Brown Ph.D. student as the man who opened fire at the Ivy League school last weekend,
Starting point is 01:03:43 killing two students and wounding nine more. He was a brown student. He was a Portuguese national. And I will tell you that he took his own life tonight. First reported by Fox, authorities found Colladio Neves-Velente dead in a New Hampshire storage facility, leaving many unanswered questions in a crime spree that investigators say included the murder of an MIT professor in Massachusetts. Previously, he attended the same academic program as the MIT professor, Nuno Luriero,
Starting point is 01:04:14 in Portugal, between 1995 and 2000. Yeah, yeah, that was an interesting connection. Yeah, and how would they get to that connection so quickly? How did they manage to find this out? I know how. The crack team had redacted called their sources in Portugal. And so we have that issue. And do we have to remember that the guy at MIT was an expert on,
Starting point is 01:04:43 he was a nuclear scientist and his specialty was fusion power. Yes. This is kind of interesting because of all the Iranian scientists have been killed over the years that are working on fusion. Working on one thing or another. So, wait a minute. So now you're putting him in the same line as the zero point energy guys and cars that drive on water?
Starting point is 01:05:06 No, I don't think zero point energy and fusion energy is the same whatsoever. Fusion is a known technology. Right, but they're going to disrupt the entire energy system. They have to be eliminated. It was the oil companies that killed it. Yes, yes, Exxon, exactly. Police say a Reddit tipster cracked open the case by posting the suspect's car description. Now, hold on, stop, stop this clip.
Starting point is 01:05:27 This was great. This is the worst. This is the worst of the most far-fetched. And I'm going to, I'm going to preview it for anybody. They got a tip from a homeless man who was a Brown University student. Living in the basement. It was a Brown University. No, he was a graduate from Brown, but he was homeless because if he graduated from Brown, you can't get work.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And he just so happened to be in the neighborhood walking around homeless. He lived in the basement. area where the killer was. He lived in the basement, John. He lived in the basement. And then he would, yeah, that's not mentioned in the report. Oh. And then he, he, he, well, he's homeless.
Starting point is 01:06:11 He was, he lived in a basement that he has a home. Yeah. But he, but he, he saw the guy and immediately remembered his car for some reason or other. I thought, and then told them about the car. And once they knew about the car, they'd get the license plate. But he did this by posting. it on Reddit because the homeless, as you know, are on Reddit like nobody else. I can't say one way or the other, but I do know it's what they train AI on, so it must be good.
Starting point is 01:06:43 So let's start this clip two. Police say a Reddit tipster cracked open the case by posting the suspect's car description. He was later identified as the man in these images. Sources say he's a homeless man and a former Brown University grad. He had an odd encounter with the shooter earlier in the day and remembered what his car looked like. Police used license plate reader cameras to find the car, and eventually they were led to the storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire, where he was found dead with two firearms nearby. Police say the tip was crucial due to the lack of security cameras at the Brown University building. So the troll room did immediately show me a homeless subreddit.
Starting point is 01:07:24 were people who are homeless post and of course that's monitored by the police just in case they post something about the car well that's only if they have a case that needs to be broke wide open yeah so I'm sure that that's being monitored 24-7 by the by the police okay so that makes sense of course the guy's found in a shed a storage shed shot
Starting point is 01:07:49 yeah that's not suspicious and at all talks sorry okay onward Yeah, played the last clip. And an autopsy shows that the shooter was dead two days before police found him. The big question right now tonight is what is the motive here? Sources say they still don't know. There were also no writings found. Sources also say that currently officials are going through his credit card transactions
Starting point is 01:08:12 just to try to see where he's been the last few days. Okay. I have a few clips that will give us some additional information. because I think there was another far-fetched bit. And this concerns what you discussed, what you brought up on the last show, that he yelled something. Now, I have to say,
Starting point is 01:08:37 you said he probably yelled and killed because he was a Republican hater, killed the Republican girl. But now we know kind of what he yelled. After a nearly week-long manhunt that left the nation, on edge, police have identified the shooting suspect who killed two Brown University students and an MIT professor. Authorities were able to follow his trail thanks to the help of a homeless hero who provided them with key information. Now that's better. Homeless hero. That's much more.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Yeah, I like it. It's a better headline. Led them to a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire. There, they found 48-year-old Claudio Nives Valenti dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. So who was this demented person who reportedly barked like a dog while he opened fire on his victims? Here's everything you need to know. On Saturday, December 13th, a crazed gunman dressed in black, stormed an engineering building at Brown University, killing two people and injuring nine others. In a rampage which left the campus in a panic,
Starting point is 01:09:34 a sophomore Ella Cook and a freshman, Muhammad Aziz Umersikov were named as the victims, who lost their lives in the horrific massacre. The killer managed to escape police and remained at large. The Ivy League campus and parts of the Rhode Island capital of Providence were left under lockdown and in a state of terror, as a desperate manhunt was underway. Nothing was known about the shooter,
Starting point is 01:09:54 whom police have since revealed made a disturbing sound during the massacre. Some witnesses said he said nothing. There are some that say he made a barking noise. Don't ask me. I don't know why. And that's it. There is no other spoken word beyond that we are aware of.
Starting point is 01:10:12 So he made a barking noise. So they changed the story. Oh, yeah. So he goes in there, he goes, Woof, woof, woof, and shoots two people and shoots a bunch of others. And then rushes off to shoot the professor and then goes to a storage bin and shoots himself. This is bull crap. Then we have the homeless hero.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Here's some more details on this with ominous music. And he blew this case right open. He blew it open. He blew it open. This, you're right. This is very far-fetched, especially how they speak about it. Instead of, well, what is that? what is what am i getting uh feedback from uh instead of saying you know we're really grateful
Starting point is 01:10:56 to this man you know this is this is how how the internet helps whatever he blew it wide open well wait one more thing to get to kind of the giveaway to the far-fetched aspect is the fact that they had a picture of this guy the homeless man uh in advance of uh of uh of him posting on Reddit or something because they were one of the press conferences we have this unidentified man that may have run into the shooter we don't know if he was working with him or whatever and it was all that in itself was far fish it was some guy there was you never saw the two of them together it was just a bunch of rando photos of the homeless man and who had the should have turned himself into the
Starting point is 01:11:43 police and then he posts about because because the homeless concern is like oh I saw a guy get in a car. I mean, this is bull crap. This stinks. It's not even a well-written. He blew this case right open. He blew it open. The tipster, known only as John, turned out to be a homeless man who had been living in the basement
Starting point is 01:12:04 of the engineering building at the time. Sources told Fox News. He bumped into Valenti and noticed he was acting suspiciously. Working off John's information, authorities tapped into additional surveillance footage that ultimately led them to the gunmen. I just got to, I can't get beyond the. He was living in the university basement. So, first of all, not homeless by the actual definition.
Starting point is 01:12:28 A houseless? Well, maybe that. How do you get to be living in the basement of the university? It's bullocrap. The homeless hero has now been credited with cracking the shootings, as the Fed say he is now entitled to the staggering $50,000 reward. Thanks to John's lead, authorities learn that Claudio Neves Valenti, right?
Starting point is 01:12:51 I didn't even know there was a reward. Did they put a post-reward? Yes, it was a $50,000 reward. There was a discussion when they found the dead guy about who's going to get the reward, and they finally determined it was going to go to this guy. Ah, the homeless hero. It didn't lead to the arrest. $1,000 reward.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Thanks to John's lead, authorities learned that Claudio Neves Valenti rented the gray Nissan in Boston and changed his license plates. According to prosecutors, he also used a phone that masked his location, and had credit card. Ooh, masked his location. Do you think he had location off, perhaps? Or what kind of, I want one of those phones. I want a phone that masks.
Starting point is 01:13:30 That is another little trick. Explain that to me. And also, how did they know he changed his plates unless they had pictures of him doing it? Masked his location and had credit cards that weren't under his name. The gunman was then connected to the death of Loraro through the rental car and other movements.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Security footage captured Valente within a half a mile of Larraro's home. Authorities also say there is video footage of him entering an apartment building near the location of the professor's apartment. Valenti appeared to have shot Larrero, then driven to a rented storage unit in Salem, New Hampshire. Finally, on the night of Thursday,
Starting point is 01:14:03 December 18th, authorities stormed the facility where they found Valenti with a satchel and two firearms, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Well, and he was shot two days earlier, according to the police. So he killed himself two days before they got to. which is like right after the shooting of the professor why why did he go there and do that what was in the satchel and what was in the what's in the satchel i demand the satchel's new that's
Starting point is 01:14:31 i demand to know what's in the satchel and what is he bad you know this is the kind of thing you always say who even who even has a satchel anymore i don't even know what a satchel is it's a butt bag i think That's satchel. Satchel. Like, boomers have satchels. It's like knapsack. He had a knapsack. Napsack. Couldn't be walking around napsack. Canapsack.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Well, there is a problem, reaction, solution to all this. I doubt it's related, but of course this was the ultimate, the remedy that this is all the result of. Investigators have since revealed that Claudio Neves Valenti was a Portuguese national and a former Brown University graduate student. He also studied in Lisbon with murdered MIT nuclear science professor Nuno Luraro between 1995 and 2000. The nature of their relationship remains unclear
Starting point is 01:15:23 nor has it been revealed if they stayed in contact. Valenti was enrolled at Brown University between 2000 and 2001 in a graduate physics program. He primarily took classes at the university's Barris and Holly building, where he opened fire on students inside a classroom, according to Brown University President Christina Paxon. It is safe to assess.
Starting point is 01:15:41 assume that this man, when he was a student, spent a lot of time in that building, Paxson told reporters. The gunman took a leave of absence from Brown University in April 2001 and formally withdrew from the Ivy League University in 2003. He came to the United States from Portugal on a student visa. Valenti received lawful permanent residence status in September 2017, officials said. Homeland Security Secretary Christine Nome confirmed Valenti entered the U.S. through the lottery immigrant visa program DV1 in 2017. He was later granted a green card. This heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country, she wrote. And in a declaration that is implications far beyond this case, she continued.
Starting point is 01:16:22 At President Trump's direction, I am immediately directing USCIS to pause the DV1 program to ensure no more Americans are harmed by this disastrous program. By the way, the green card lottery. Yeah, I know, but this is not the problem. No, of course not. the problem, but it's a disastrous program. This guy's like a peaceful character until right now and all of a sudden he did this, that, and the other.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And they shot himself for some unknown reason. You know, why he could have gotten away with it, it seems to me. And what was the storage room being used for? I mean, why was it in New Hampshire? This is bull crap. This is too many bullcrops. It's just, I can't, it's nothing makes sense about it. And the fact that they're playing it straight is beyond me.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Yeah. They can't come up with something better. I don't know either but I really don't know but it's I mean this is this is probably beyond the shooting in Manhattan of the Blackstone girl
Starting point is 01:17:22 even though they blamed oh he hated the NFL yeah okay he never played in the NFL but that's okay he went to shoot up the NFL and accidentally shot that one of the main people at Blackstone an operation that's buying up all the housing where he came from and somebody
Starting point is 01:17:39 obviously got screwed by him but that's that's pretty logical i see i don't get this one at all unless it has something to do with fusion or the oil companies i mean this there's nothing how about how about this how about this how about this how about what is the what is the entire GDP at the moment built on on hyperscalers all the all the money that is circling around initially basically coming from one source, which is invidia and others and now Saudi Arabia, it's all going into power, all going into power generation, not the data sentence, it's the power for the generation. So let's just presume, I know I'm going out on a ledge here, let's presume that this is all
Starting point is 01:18:28 about the MIT professor. They got to do something to cover up the hit on the MIT professor because there's very little evidence. Well, you know, we saw the guy around there on some ring door video cam kind of looked like him. So that was him. And he killed the MIT guy. So perhaps this MIT guy, maybe he had something. Maybe it was a huge problem. Like, look, I now have a gigawatt in a jar. I mean, I don't know. How does, how does Fusion even work? Well, fusion works by combining elements like atoms get combined in such a way that after the combination energy is given off. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:15 As opposed to cracking something going to happen. Can you do it in a jar? No. Would it impact the world tremendously at this moment in time right when everyone's putting all of this money into? gas-powered energy. It's considered the Holy Grail. Okay. So let's listen to the Secretary of the Interior, Interior, Doug Bergam, Bergam, with the money honey this morning. Do you know me now is the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergam.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Secretary, great to have you. Thanks so much for being here this weekend. What about that pushback on data centers? Well, the data centers, it's all about decision-making made between the locals. I mean, there are examples, including in my home state, where data center comes in you get an agreement with the local electric prices stay the same for the consumers the local farmers or ranchers or it can
Starting point is 01:20:06 even go down there's deals that are being cut right now we're proposing that if somebody wants to come in and build a data center but they're going to build power generation with it have some of that be behind the meter off the grid to run the data center but when they build the power build extra so that
Starting point is 01:20:21 they can put like an extra 20% back into the grid and help ensure that prices either stay flat or go down for consumers. There is certainly right now the economics. Electricity's never been worth more now. A kilowatt hour has never been worth more now than ever has been in any time in history. Okay. That was the key point. He says something interesting later on. But that was the key point. So first of all, oh, it's the same or it's going down. But a kilowatt hour has never been more valuable now, which means expensive. Expensive, yes. These tech companies that are driving up the
Starting point is 01:20:53 stock market have a record amount. The top five tech companies in America have almost, almost $400 billion of CAP-X they want to spend on power generation as long, again, with these data centers, and a data center is really a place where we're manufacturing intelligence. Did you know that? Were you aware? We're back, baby. America is back in the manufacturing business. What are we manufacturing? Intelligence. And with these data centers, which clearly this guy was not first in line for. And a data center is really a place where we're manufacturing, intelligence. Intelligence lifts every sector of the economy, so we want more intelligence, not less. And so localities that are figuring out a way to have... I think it meant to say
Starting point is 01:21:38 artificial intelligence, but he keeps saying intelligence. Intelligence manufactured in their local area and lower prices. Those are the folks that are getting it. People that are blocking and stopping these projects from coming in are actually hurting every second. They're hurting their universities, they're hurting their schools, they're hurting the national, U.S. national security. Sounds to me like if someone figured this out is going to hurt our schools, hurt our universities, hurt our national security. We've got to kill this guy. This guy's too close. What are we going to do? I got a homeless guy in the basement. Yeah, how can we set him up? Give him 50 grand. Yeah, we'll give him 50 grand. And he'll give us the back story.
Starting point is 01:22:23 and then we'll take this other, the Patsy, who may have killed himself months ago for all we know. Well. Yeah, this whole thing is just stinks. It stinks. But what's behind it, it's just, it's, it may stink, but to figure it out is not, is going to be non-trivial. I don't think anyone's going to do it unless it's just straight up fusion.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Well, I think, I think the first thing we need to do is establish the true link in Portugal with these two. I'm skeptical of that. I'm very skeptical They're just saying it They're just saying it Were they gay lovers? And you know It's like hey
Starting point is 01:23:00 This guy's also from He's from Portugal Let me go investigate Hmm I may That's like a Whitney Webb Five Months later type thing That's not
Starting point is 01:23:10 Something that just pops up Seems to me But Yeah It's something you can't just You just can't make a phone call And there's very little evidence That he killed the
Starting point is 01:23:23 MIT professor that just isn't you know this a ring cam video of someone walking by oh that's him hey switch the plates you know there are identical cars with different plates you know
Starting point is 01:23:39 that that also happens yeah it's just yeah gray Nissan yeah that's so rare so I don't know I'm just I'm skeptical yeah okay well that's that's we never we might as well just give up on that
Starting point is 01:23:53 Yeah, we'll give up on that. But let's stay with AI because it's always super fun. And the first thing we'll do is we'll go to the farmers. The farmers are now being hurt by AI. Gaver Farm in Maryland isn't ready for the holidays. We give them a saw. We give them a tree cart. They find their perfect tree.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I know. It sounds like a human interest story for Christmas time. But hold on. The Christmas trees are pruned. The chocolate fudge displayed. But Lisa Gabor a seventh generation farmer. Dude. Have you tried the Little John's Candies fudge yet?
Starting point is 01:24:27 I've had their fudge before. Did you get the eggnog fudge? Uh, no, not if it was in the package, the packages still was sealed. Ah. We cut into one and it was eggnog fudge. It was delightful. I've never even considered that. It's, uh, it's almost, it should be in the egg book.
Starting point is 01:24:49 The Christmas trees are pruned. The chocolate fudge displayed. Lisa Gaver, a seventh generation farmer is struggling to enjoy the season. You're in a fight. We are in a fight. What do you think your chances are of winning it? I don't know. It's going to be a long road hoe. The fight is over proposed high voltage power lines that would cut right through this 40-acre Christmas tree field. Gaver is part of a group of Maryland landowners battling the proposed 67-mile line that would cross three counties to deliver power from Pennsylvania to northern Virginia. area where data center growth has exploded because of AI and with it the demand for
Starting point is 01:25:28 electricity. All of that computer processing needs power. In a statement, the utility company says the lines are necessary to power data centers in both Virginia and Maryland, as well as strengthen the power grid. Farmers in Maryland tried to block surveyors from coming onto their property. The power company sued to gain access and won. Now the company is threatening to use eminent domain, which gives the government authority to acquire private property for... The company can't call eminent domain. Only the government can't, correct? Yeah. But that's not what they heard them say. Let's play it back. And one. Now the company is threatening to use eminent domain. The company is threatening to use eminent domain. Yeah, they can't use eminent domain. They don't have the right to do that.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Which gives the government authority to acquire private property for public use to go. To go. forward with the project. Ah, we all need to manufacture more intelligence. Sorry, ma'am. The battle playing out in similar ways all over the country. Suddenly, we need a lot of power and we weren't planning to have to build that much. There are multiple regions where new data centers are creating a surge in power demand. Do we have the kind of power infrastructure in place right now in this country to be able to
Starting point is 01:26:42 supply enough power to the AI industry? We don't really at this point. having to get very creative. At Gaver Farm, the power company just left notice that its surveyors would be there soon. They could show up any time. This is going into our busiest tree season. We're just honest and good, hardworking farmers that didn't ask for this. Tonight, Lisa Gave her vowing to keep farming and fighting.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Okay. So there's your Christmas AI power story. This brings to mind that some, there's something scammish going on here. Hence the need to kill the MIT professor, yes. Well, I don't know if it has anything to do with that guy. But the whole idea of all, we've got to build out all these data centers out of the blue out of all of a sudden so people can do AI art, you know, or whatever they're going to do.
Starting point is 01:27:35 It just doesn't make any sense. And we can't get a better voice. And we got that, yes, I was bitching to Adam. You'll hear these songs. We have our AI songs at the end of the show in the show mix. and the voice is the same guy. So it's like some kind of a Broadway version of Sinatra that is with a good range. He's got range.
Starting point is 01:27:57 He's got range. He's got range. But it's the same guy and they can't see. I like to hear somebody else, you know, besides this guy's voice. I mean, it's much more important that we improve that voice than have farms. I mean, come on. Let's be honest about it. And they're not going to do it.
Starting point is 01:28:13 This whole, there's something going on that's that maybe we're, getting, we're going to have a flood of excess oil that's got to be burned off and we got to bring the, and energy prices are too high already. Every place in the country in California is ridiculous. Well, all of these, all these municipal power companies, they all went to their city councils or state or whatever they had to go to and say, hey, we need to, we need to, we need to a little more room in our pricing because of the demand. So we need, you know, anywhere between 15 and 25% more room for prices increases. And of course, the city council, council people, they're all like hanging out with the AI boys.
Starting point is 01:28:50 I'm like, oh, yeah, we'll take care of that for you. Yeah, but you're bringing jobs, whatever. Yeah, they're not. But, but this, this is where all the money is. All the money right now is in building data centers, building the actual data centers, because, of course, we have a lot of invidia chips that need to go somewhere. And the power, the power generation for it. As far as I can tell, that's where all the money is going or into, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:17 They're like, is there a shortage, is there a, is the demand for AI services so high that it's coming to a home? No, no, no. Well, then what's the point? The promise is if you just give us more power, Captain, if you just give us more power, then AI will really work. We're almost there. That's, that's all I hear. Really work doing what? Getting that voice you want.
Starting point is 01:29:44 that there's a little coding issue i think they can fix that no i think it's harder than it looks well let's move from one fraud to another and go to minnesota oh i was still on on a i but okay if you want to do you have any more ai stuff besides just complaining because that's all i'm going to do oh you can complain and this happened in your uh in oh here we go let me say it in your neck of the woods in the bay area jaren mclaren used her debit card gas at the 7-Eleven in Pannold. She went inside to buy a Powerball story. Well,
Starting point is 01:30:21 what? Yeah, this is just, this is not a good story. This is just, yeah, I know it happened. Well, okay. Then I'll end the clip. What, just give us the story. Some, you, okay, well, I'm actually funny because I was going to get this. You might as well play the clip because I, it might have the little kicker in there.
Starting point is 01:30:38 They, uh, the gas stations were charging 1,000 times more. Like if you bought a $20 gallon of gas. gas, it was $20,000 or $2,000. I think it was 100 times more. 100 times. And it was all because of a software fix. Yaron McLehran used her debit card for gas at the 7-Eleven in Pinal. She went inside to buy a powerball ticket, but her card got declined.
Starting point is 01:31:00 So she used her cell phone to check her bank account right there in the store. And then that's when I got the shock of my life. That ticket gas that I put in wasn't $79.34 like I had thought. It was $7,9.334. 7-Eleven charged her 100 times what the amount should have been. Yeri told me the clerks were not helpful. And they didn't shut the pumps down until I threatened to call the police and the better business bureau. After many calls and e-mail, 7-Eleven finally refunded Nieri's $7,900 and gave her an extra $500 for her trouble.
Starting point is 01:31:34 How did this happen in the first place? An internal company email obtained by the I-Team sites, a recent software update and says it appears the decimal point moved over. over for the pending transaction. By itself, the magic moving decibel point. It just moved over. You mean someone made a coding error? A point moved over for the pending transaction. 711's corporate office in Irving, Texas tells me that a payment processor error affected six stores.
Starting point is 01:32:03 711 emailed me. We are actively working with a payment processor to reverse these charges as soon as possible. But this customer has not heard from the company, and it's been more than a week. Yeah. So the story I wanted to give you but couldn't find a clip for was the power outage in San Francisco. It wasn't huge. It was 130 homes and businesses. But the minute that happened, and this was Richmond, Sunset, Presidio, Golden Gate. So did you even see any of that or hear anything about it? No, 130 houses. This is common. Yes. It's normal for California. Well, anywhere. But the Waymo cars all stopped the minute that happened. Oh, that's interesting. They just parked right in the intersection, like wherever they were, they just stopped. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:46 They're going to have to fix that. Yeah. Well, this story about the credit card run up of 100X has some dubious aspects. For one thing, when you have a debit card, it usually has a limit that's reasonably low because they're always fearful that debit cards are going to get ripped off. Yeah. That's typically with most cards is 400 bucks. Yeah, good point. You can't get a $7,900 bill.
Starting point is 01:33:09 on a $400 limit debit card. It just can't be done. So there's that element. Yeah. Wait a minute. The news is just full of crap today. It's just all lies. I think it's just that way all the time.
Starting point is 01:33:25 No. What? Gambling. Which brings me to a clip. I mean, we could play the Minnesota fraud clip, but I want to play this clip because it's kind of floating around and I thought I'd play it.
Starting point is 01:33:38 This is from 2018. This is Megan Kelly. And this just shows you, this is when she was working for NBC and she was, you know, had to get a million. She had a million dollar contract. Some ridiculous contract.
Starting point is 01:33:54 And so when you're working for somebody at that kind of money, you say what they tell you to say. And you end up with something like this. And I always want to say, this is classic media problem. This is the media in a nutshell. It just epitomizes everything that's wrong with the M5M. People with me on stage right now are all transgender kids who want others to know it is possible to transition socially with love and support and acceptance within a family and a community.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Please welcome 16-year-old Nicole, 12-year-old Daniel, 14-year-old Gia, 15-year-old Landon, and 13-year-old Stella. Good morning, everyone. Also joining me, also joining me in our special audience is Gira Goldstein, who's a transgender woman who is the co-founder, along with Jen Grosslandler, who you just met, of the Gender Cool Project, a new movement that is being launched today. We're going to tell you all about it, and it's actually really important. So, all right, welcome to you all. Everybody nervous? Everyone's sufficiently nervous? So, if anything, you're proving that Megan Kelly will say whatever she has to for money, because now she's so anti-trans. It's not even funny, the comparison between the two.
Starting point is 01:35:11 So did she have an awakening? No, she had a different payee. Gold, gold. Gold. She has a different person signing the checks. I mean, this is the problem with everybody in the media that they can't, they're dishonest. This is just basically dishonesty.
Starting point is 01:35:31 I just have one series of clips. I see you have a clip from PBS, but I got a couple of clips from it because I thought it was my beat. So I'd like to take the surveillance pricing, if you don't mind. The reason I, my clip, which you should probably play initially, confirms that the problem was the terminology.
Starting point is 01:35:59 And I didn't fully understand because you're going on and on about things, prices and the rest of it. And we had a letter from one of our producers that talked about how they change prices at the stores, and they don't do it dynamically. Well, no, what he said, he was saying, oh, surprise, surprise, you pay more when Instacart delivers it.
Starting point is 01:36:17 That's what he was saying. Yes, the Instacart prices is different. You play my clip and then you can play yours out. If you're going online to buy some last-minute gifts, there's a chance the price you'll pay will be influenced by what's known as surveillance, pricing. That's the practice of some retailers to use the power of AI to sift all sorts of personal data to set individualized prices online. Things like your age, gender, geographic
Starting point is 01:36:43 location, and even browsing history could change the price you pay. Allie Rogan spoke with Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst for the speech, privacy, and technology project at the ACLU. Thank you so much for joining us. So what is surveillance pricing and how does it work? Surveillance pricing is basically when companies gather a huge amount of data about their individual customers, and we're living in an era where more data is being collected about us than ever before. Companies take that data and they use it to try to figure out basically how to ring more money out of you when you buy things from them. What is your pain point? What are you willing to pay? Questions like that. And there's widespread experimentation
Starting point is 01:37:25 happening with that kind of pricing in a number of business sectors today. Yeah, that basically is my first two clips. It's good because now I can continue on get a little bit deeper into this. And of course, this is really machine learning. He'll say AI, which is just a code name for machine learning. This has been around for a long time. It is just more data, by the way, when you have more data centers and you have AI sucking everything up into the corpus, that's kind of handy. and they have real brain scientists working at these outfits specifically when it comes to pricing,
Starting point is 01:38:07 at recommendations, pricing, price points, et cetera. How do I know? My sister, PhD, works for one of these companies and is actually, well, she does the, she helps customers implement it, but this has been going on for a while and it's only gotten better. So what are some examples of that? how are these companies using the massive amounts of data that exists about all of us online to give us these? I've heard it described as like personalized pricing. I mean, right off the bat, there's a lot we don't know because, number one, they're going
Starting point is 01:38:40 to claim trade secrets. Number two, they're using AI, which is very opaque in the first place. Even the businesses may not understand what the logic of the AI they're using is. But this first came into public attention when the president of Delta Airlines, speaking to investors, said that they were planning on using AI to set an increasing proportion of their prices, their airline prices, and that they would use personal information about people to do so. That created a bit of an uproar in Congress and elsewhere, and Delta backed off and said, no, no, no, we're not going to do this. But it really put the issue, which has been out there for 10, 15 years on a low-key level,
Starting point is 01:39:21 really put into the headlines recently. And so we're seeing attention by Congress, by state legislatures, by the Federal Trade Commission, and others. There was a recent report that Instacart has been doing differential pricing. A consumer group did a test, and they found that 75% of the products on Instacart were getting set with different prices with different people, with some of the prices, 23% higher than for some people than for others. The Wall Street Journal was reported that retailers like Home Depot were setting different prices for different customers, with customers in affluent areas actually getting charged less. I think that there's a lot we don't know about what's happening,
Starting point is 01:39:57 but it's definitely going on. As a quick aside, FTC announced that Instacart paid a $60 million fine in consumer refunds, I should say, to settle a lawsuit over allegations and engaged in deceptive tactics. It almost to me sounds like, oh, man, if you leave us alone on this, we'll settle this bit of it.
Starting point is 01:40:18 And the deceptive tactics were, they automatically enrolled you in some things without telling you. But it wasn't really about this differential pricing because that's it. It's a difference between dynamic pricing and that's the terminology. So dynamic pricing, it changes based upon demand at the time and differential or surveillance pricing. Here is this guy to explain. Can I ask you just an overview question? Yeah. How does this surveillance pricing differ from where people pay different amounts of money?
Starting point is 01:40:54 From going into a car dealership and dickering about a car price and they're coming up and down and going back and forth with the manager and coming back and forth and so I pay $52,000 for the Chrysler and then you go in there and you really are good at it and you pay $48,000. Somebody else pays full ticker, ticker price. $60,000. How is that different? Well, there's a negotiation that took place. There's no negotiating. And there's no way you can say, I don't want to pay that other than I don't want the service. There's no. There's kind of, don't you think there's a virtual negotiation going on? Because if, for example,
Starting point is 01:41:35 the little kicker in that little report there said that people in affluent areas paid less. Because people in affluent areas, sometimes the reason people are affluent is because they pay less. They're cheap. They're cheap. They don't buy retail. So the legalities, I have two clips. The legalities in the second clip in the second clip. First, let's define the difference between the two, which you kind of need to understand
Starting point is 01:42:00 where it probably isn't legal what they're doing versus your car dealership example. What is the difference between this type of surveillance pricing and some other examples and types of differential pricing that we've seen out there already, like dynamic pricing? I think that the core element of. surveillance pricing or personalized pricing is that it's based on data they have about you. It's different from, you know, charging more for an umbrella when it's raining. It's different from Uber charging different prices at different times of day, depending on the amount of demand for their cars, although there have been allegations that Uber, for example,
Starting point is 01:42:37 charges more to people whose battery's about to die. By the way, I thought that was phenomenal. And it makes total sense. Your Uber app is monitoring your battery level. and if you're ordering an Uber and your batteries at 5% they're going to jack the phone. Yeah, they're going to jack your price up. How is that data available?
Starting point is 01:42:59 Can anyone confirm that? Oh, absolutely. I mean, you just say yes, I agree to all the things that this app can access. I've never seen, I've looked at those lists and I've never seen one about battery. Absolutely. All of them have a version of it to know if they need to go to sleep. should they be in the background. They always ask you,
Starting point is 01:43:19 can we, can we have access to, uh, to be on all the time? They always ask for access to the photos and all the other bull crap to your address book. I've never seen anything about the battery. But okay.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I mean, I'll go along with the idea because it is a good idea if you think about it. Let me just see. Let me, let me see. I'm pretty sure. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 01:43:39 that's the claim that's being made. We'll go with it. We don't have, you don't have to, but if somebody out there, I, I've just never seen it. Both Android and iOS have battery APIs that allow developers to see the current charge level
Starting point is 01:43:52 whether the device is plugged in or not. Then you'd have to give them permission for that. I've never seen it on a permissions list. It'll say, can we... App developers post in the troll room. In allegations that Uber, for example, charges more to people whose battery is about to die and things like that, that would be personalized pricing. Uber has denied that.
Starting point is 01:44:11 There can be very complex and sometimes subtle differences among the different types of pricing, and that can make it complicated. But at the end of the day, they have a lot more of information about the way the world works, about how different people react to different pricing than any individual does. And they are seeking to use that advantage in information against individuals. Okay, according to Gemini, I'm just going to take that because they're a Google shop. Under the privacy rules for both Android and iOS, battery level is considered low-risk information because it doesn't reveal your identity or your private files,
Starting point is 01:44:47 the system allows apps to see it automatically without showing you a pop-up. Does that answer your question? That answers your question? It doesn't answer my question. It answers my concerns. Oh, I'm glad you're going to be picky about language. So let's find out what's legal. But all of this is legal, right?
Starting point is 01:45:07 And the corollary question to that is what regulations exist or should exist to put some guardrails around this practice? It's not totally clear that it's legal. It's a bit of a legal gray area. There are, for example, privacy laws, state privacy laws, that's just California's that may have things to say about this and the way data is used. There are civil rights laws that have to do with discrimination based on anything based on ethnicity, religion, age, gender, disability status could get a company in hot water if what they're doing starts to implicate those things. There are state consumer laws. And then there's the Federal Trade Commission, which has a charge to go after deceptive and unfair trade practices. And there could be claims
Starting point is 01:45:54 that some of these fall under that. And in fact, the FTC has been investigating this. They did investigation, a report last January. And there's a Reuters report that they're looking at it again under the current administration. So if you're a business that are doing this, you are not necessarily on solid legal ground. Is there anything that consumers can do to protect themselves from the possibility of being targeted with surveillance pricing? Yeah. Stop eating groceries. Just stop. Just don't eat fruit. It's difficult. I mean, at the end of the day, a lot of these are bigger than any one of us.
Starting point is 01:46:28 They're social questions. For example, I mean, one of the big problems here is that so much data about us is being collected and flowing to the companies that give them advantages over us. And that's because Congress has failed to pass an overarching privacy law, as almost all the other sort of advanced industrial countries have done. That would cut off the flow of data at the source that is fueling this kind of strategy. But certainly you can do your best to hide your identity when you're searching for prices. You can do your best to protect your privacy and be aware of it. And, you know, check and see whether people you know are getting charged the same price. So to answer your question, you are the answer to the answer to the.
Starting point is 01:47:07 the question. How about this? You said, don't eat fruit. You can eat fruit. Go to the store and buy the fruit. It's the Instacart. It's all these people, oh, I have everything delivered. I mean, come on. You want to stop this problem? Put your phone in a drawer. There it is. The attack vector is always the phone. All your information, all your behavioral information. The attack vector is the phone. That's a great phrase. That's it, but it is. It is the number one attack vector in all of our lives. When you scroll and you just pause, boom, another data point.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Exactly. It's true. When you see the puppy, like, oh, slow down. If you, if people just... You see the cooking demo. Oh, you're perfect. You'll see millions of them. You'll get ads for cheese.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Cheese. Grated cheese. You don't even have to grate it. It comes grated already. Ads for cheese is what you get. Cheese, man. I'm telling you, cheese. It's all about the cheese. And just winding it all up 15 seconds because this is, along with your phone, this is attack vector number two. Late today, the owners of TikTok signing a deal to sell the app to mostly American investors, including Oracle and Silver Lake. The sale has been in the works for months. Congress passed a law last year banning the app in the U.S. unless it was sold. President Trump has postponed the ban through a series of executive orders. So from what I understand in the deal, they don't get the algo, which is, I don't know, the point of the whole thing?
Starting point is 01:48:43 That would, well, eyeballs. They get the eyeballs. Okay. So how much their eyeballs were? They're all Silicon Valley guys. They don't think of algos. They figure out we can do our own. This is the classic American thing.
Starting point is 01:48:55 I remember this story. This from years ago. Here we go. When Mickalob was sold to Budweiser. Yeah. Was it a dark day. And the Micalope. This is a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:49:04 And so Mickelope sold the Budweiser, and it's a German beer, a very famous beer at the time. It was in the 7th, I think. Was it not the king of beers? No, Budweiser is the king of beers. Oh. And so Mikhailo was a German beer with just a beautiful loggar. And they sold it to Budweiser and they said, we will send you our brewmaster so you can make it exactly the same. And the Budweiser people said, hey, we know how to make beer.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Forget it. With rice. And that's exactly. Yes. And so that's the way it is. in Silicon Valley, we can do algos, forget it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Well. So, they don't need the algos. They just wanted the eyeballs. So it's a Silicon Valley eyeballs. Yeah. Well, I'd love to know a little more. Because this, this was such a, this was the number one deal months ago. Oh, everyone. Oh, China. China's singing.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Everyone, hair on fire. And now it's just, yeah, Larry Ellison bought it. Okay. We knew that. We know he's doing it for Mossad. we know he's doing it for the Jews to spy on us I got a note from somebody Hey man What do you what do you think it feels like to be on the other end Of those quips you guys are making
Starting point is 01:50:13 I said do you even listen to the show What is he said what was that supposed to refer to Well he was hurt Whenever I make a joke and say Well it's from Assad you know the Jews are in control Which is obvious I mean this is this is what you said You made such a good point
Starting point is 01:50:32 satire and mocking should not be done. Sarcasm in particular. Sarcasm should just not be done. No, because people don't get it. No, and then they think that I'm serious about it. Yeah, you're a big promo side guy. Funny enough, I don't get any of those people with their name in brackets saying, yeah, you're right, Curry.
Starting point is 01:50:53 They're not falling for it. So, I don't know. I guess it's me. That's true. It's funny. You're right. They're not falling. for the those guys those guys aren't falling which is who you're mocking yeah yeah they just they just keep
Starting point is 01:51:08 posting in the troll room yeah yeah curry you're part of the problem all right adam sandler adam curry hmm hmm hmm just noticing mm adam um adam carola yeah um hmm just noticing i'm just notice. I have, I got no punchline here. You might just cut it. This is no punchline. All right. Off you go. Jake Paul. I've been waiting for Jake Paul. I mean, I saw the ads on Netflix. I saw the ads. I'm like, wow, this is
Starting point is 01:51:46 the fight of the century. Let's watch a Christmas movie because I'm not interested. So Jake Paul, what goes out, okay, this will be the clips before the break. Yeah. Jake Paul got beaten up by a real heavyweight, not an old guy or anything. a guy that's just pretty much just recently. The guy was a head taller than him.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Yeah, he's monster. And he was two weight classes ahead. Crag, busted Jake Paul's jaw in two places, knocked him for a loop. Oh, no. Just basically put him in the hospital. Oh, wow. And so here's a good kind of report.
Starting point is 01:52:19 I think this is from the BBC. We told doctors have fitted YouTuber Jake Paul with two titanium plates to fix his jaw, which was broken in two places. they've also removed several teeth. Mr Paul sustained the injuries during a fight with two-time heavyweight boxing champion Anthony Joshua last night in Miami. The fight has been described by some as a dangerous stunt, not least because of the height, weight and experience difference between the two men. It was streamed live on Netflix and was worth millions to both of them.
Starting point is 01:52:56 But I've been speaking to boxing journalist Gareth A. Davis, and he's been explaining why it was such a controversial bout. Boxing's an inherently dangerous sport. I've covered it for 35 years. People pass away and get killed in the ring. And that was the fear for Jake Paul, that the gulfing experiencing class was so enormous, apart from the size as well, because Jake Paul is a few weight divisions below Anthony Joshua, that people feared for his safety and his health. Look, he's got to be. He had his jaw broken. He had some teeth altered by Anthony Joshua eventually beat him up in the sixth round after marinating him for several rounds, maybe carrying him a little bit as well. So it was a one-off. But Jake Paul's an anomaly, Rebecca, because he is an extraordinary young man with 70 million followers online and he wants to push the boundaries of things. And I say an anomaly because he was an athlete growing up and he's fallen in love with boxing over the last five years. It was a horrible mismatch in many ways. But for some reason, for the modern audience, it's very compelling. Yeah, this is where we are in our culture.
Starting point is 01:54:06 This is where we're at. And you're, wait a minute, as you sound like you're condemning it, you are the one always advocating for public executions on television. So let's make sure we remember that. Yes, if I have the television deal, I can do it if I can be the production with Brunetti. Yes. And I, yes, I, you're cutting me out of the deal already. No, no, no. You're the announcer. You're the talent.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Ladies and gentlemen. Okay. Now connected by thousands of megawatts brought to you by meta. Because we got to get a sponsor in there. Meta or Nvidia. Okay, let's go with part two, Jake Paul. As you say, you know, a lot of risks being taken by. YouTuber Jake Paul then, but also risks for Anthony Joshua. I mean, he doesn't want to unnecessarily damage somebody who probably shouldn't actually be in the ring against him. Yeah, there's that, there's two sides to that as well with Anthony Joshua. One, and some people have accused him
Starting point is 01:55:11 of being embarrassed by Jake Paul that he was able to go five or six rounds with him last night here in Miami at the... Oh, no, that was for the prop bet, no doubt. This thing was rigged to the hill. sent to the home of Miami Heat and the basketball team because people were shocked that Jake Paul was able to be so elusive and Joshua missed him. The debate is, did Anthony Joshua take it easy on him until the fifth or sixth round when Jake Paul got tired? Should we be allowing this kind of event?
Starting point is 01:55:39 I spoke to Robert Smith, the Secretary of the Boxing Board of Control in the UK and he said he'd never have licensed it. So there is a bit of criticism of the bout. I believe that myself as well. I don't think this kind of mismatch should be allowed or sanctioned again. I think this is a one and done. As you say, what does this do to the actual sport of boxing, though? At what point does it sort of become exhibitionism and actually away from the very technical nature of the sport of boxing?
Starting point is 01:56:11 Jake Paul was actually pretty good last night, better than anyone thought he was going to be. But overall, I think it doesn't do a lot for boxing. it did a lot for their bank balances. They're both earned in the region of 50 million each last night, I believe. 50 million U.S. dollars. So it was extraordinarily big in business terms, and it will be a huge audience on Netflix, which is the bigger picture here, by the way, as well,
Starting point is 01:56:35 with what's happening because of the resonance of 300 million subscribers to Netflix who are getting in the sports broadcast streaming business. Yeah, yeah, Netflix deal. Yeah, it makes sense. 50 mil. Netflix. Well, I wouldn't, would you get your jaw broken in two places for that kind of money? I like cash flow.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Well, it would be flowing. And that blood flow. Okay, here's the kicker. The funny thing is, Jake Paul on his jaw broken last night. I'm within half an hour. He's in the hospital putting pictures on Instagram of him in the bed and the kind of x-rays of his jaw being fixed almost like a trophy from something he had achieved on the night you know and tens of millions of people have viewed it on instagram so we have to be careful about what the game is here
Starting point is 01:57:32 yeah it's all about the clicks the odds for Joshua to win in round six were 12 plus 1200 is that a lot uh yeah that's that's well that's a ridiculous That means you'd have to bet $1,200 to win $1. So is Joshua round 1, 250, round 2, 350, 5, 900, 6, 1,200, 6, 1,200, and then go the distance? Right. Those odds don't seem to be put up correctly. Yeah. But money maker.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Whatever the case, it was, there was probably. I think when you said prop bet, there's probably some element of truth to that. Yeah. You know, let's do this and then we'll do that. We get that besides getting, if you, it's not like 50 million is not enough. No, but let's just get all of our friends in on this deal. Let's just, let's just face it. Netflix is the king.
Starting point is 01:58:37 They figured it out. They know what we degenerates really want. We want this kind of blood with an influencer. I mean, can we get Candace Owens to get in the ring with somebody and get beat up? That would be interesting to watch. watch. People would flock to see that. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:58:54 You know, I got a note from one of our producers who dated an assistant director who has worked on some of those Christmas movies I was complaining about. Yeah? It looks like the guys come out of gay porn. Yeah, because the guys come out of gay porn. According to this assistant director, who this person dated, the director's, producers, and some talent are indeed from the porn world. Well, the problem was that they, that this woman who worked as an assistant director hated it because the overall vibe on the set was dead, dry, and boring.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Zero creativity. Yeah. Makes sense. Just like the category. Yeah, they can't do dick. Hey, and with that, I want to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in carrying the water. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John. In the morning.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Yeah, in the morning, I'm a current in the morsevoo boots of the graph in the air, subs in the water at all. The names and nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Okay. 1698 today on the trolls. 1698 listening live to the best podcast in the universe. You know, people, Jason Callick. Canis is now saying, oh, the all-in podcast is the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:00:24 He didn't say that. Yes, he did. We should have trademarked it. Yeah. But you can say what he wants it. It hurts his credibility because he listens to our podcast. He knows it. He knows it.
Starting point is 02:00:38 I think he's saying it just to see if we're watching his podcast, which, of course, I'm not, but my spies are everywhere. You might be correct. My mommy's spies are everywhere. A lot of people like his podcast. Oh, it's a very good podcast. And he's, he's well, and he's clean-shaven. He has a...
Starting point is 02:00:56 It's odd to see him with the big glasses and the clean-shaven look. Yeah, he looks like, you know who you, there was a... He looked, I know it's going to, it's probably not going to go over well with you, but with him, he probably might like this comment. But he looks a little like George Clooney. No, he does not. Yeah, I saw him, Cluny in one of his movies. When he would, in that black and white. He had his hair pushed back, flat, and he just was roaming around doing some goofball thing he
Starting point is 02:01:24 likes to do. And I looked at him. I said, that looks like Calacanus. He looks. Calacanus has an oddly looks enough like George Clooney that it's noticeable to me. He looks like an accountant, you know, like a CPA type dude with the glasses. Like, I'm here to doing your taxes. Welcome to them.
Starting point is 02:01:43 I mean, I was telling me what I thought. Can you use a podcast? He doesn't, he also doesn't. speech therapy. He doesn't have his... I know. We badgered him enough. Yeah, well, because you used to talk like this.
Starting point is 02:01:56 And he doesn't talk like that anymore. Now he's clear, very clear. And all this week, there was on my timeline, somebody somewhere said, well, Tom Green invented the podcast. Tom Green. What? So that's off the wall. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Because Rogan was on his podcast. on his video show. He was doing a video show from home, or wherever he was. And Rogan was like, I've got to be doing this. You know, that was kind of the spark. But Joe Rogan has long, long since confirmed where it came from. But it's just interesting how people like, oh, I was at WMAU in 1932 and we were putting up our wave files on real audio. We were podcasting before Curry came up with the name podcasting, which I've never
Starting point is 02:02:47 ever came up with the name. The whole, the whole, the whole thing is like, you know, it's skewed. Yeah. Yeah. Well, people have just decided that a podcast is, you know, some people with cans on talking at a table. That's a podcast. Yeah, on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:03:07 They don't, the technology is no longer understood, honestly. You know, it's just not understood. It's like, and to be kind of fair about. it? I mean, we did the, the, the initial idea for the RSS feed with the enclosure was because we were on dial-up modems practically. We, you know, well, yeah, we had ADSL. We had kind of, kind of always on computing. The idea was your computer would download this stuff in the back. I did an ISDN line into the house. Yeah, ISDN, ADSL, the early cable motors. They weren't really fast. It wasn't click and you get the experience right away.
Starting point is 02:03:47 But that was the whole genesis of it. So not, but, you know, what people miss about it is that if you don't put it on RSS feed and distribute it that way, you have no control. And your audience can be eliminated from you. And then you got to go cry and go, they demonetize me. That's the part that people are missing. So I don't care. I mean, I was just there. I don't even think I invented it.
Starting point is 02:04:17 It just came through God. It was a gift from God to the universe. I was just the guy. Well, I know who invented podcasting. It was you. And everyone can, you know, make up any story they want. Who cares? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 02:04:33 It was just interesting. I'm working with the original, the OG. Yeah, OG. Yes. That's the only reason, by the way. It's not because you like me because it's fun. No, no. It's just, it's like a business decision.
Starting point is 02:04:46 attracted to the dollar signs. How'd that work out for you? Well, it didn't work out as well as I'd hope. But it's beside the point. We have a good product. Outstanding product. It's the best product in the universe, people. Come on, get with it.
Starting point is 02:05:04 So, yes, you should be listening to this on a modern podcast, because I haven't stopped. We continue to improve what is being done. And I love that Apple is picking up on what we're doing. no money off of it. They really don't. Yeah. The lost leader. It's good for them. It's very good for them. You have to have a lost leader if you're in business. Yeah, well, they got it. They got their lost leader. Congratulations, Apple. You're losing money because of me. And John C. DeVorek is making money because of me. There you go. I'm your meal ticket, baby. That's it.
Starting point is 02:05:39 So get a modern podcast app, one that does all kinds of cool things. Like listening to shows live when they're being podcast, when they're being recorded, actually. Be a part of the live studio audience. Become a part of the troll room at noagendashream.com. And we did actually, I think no one has ever questioned us on the value for value concept. And we did name that value for value. And we learned that just because we're students of behavior. It's our own version of, what was that term?
Starting point is 02:06:15 Begging for money. Surveillance pricing. It's surveillance begging for money. Yeah, you're right. It's begging for money. Surveillance prices. I have to say this. So I'm getting, I got a thing.
Starting point is 02:06:30 I do not understand why people don't understand the value for value concept and how it works. Well, who says they don't? I got a thing from 404 media. They said, oh, we got this, that. And the other thing, got all this new story for subscribers only. It's like, what do you mean for subscribers? You know, there's never been a moment where journalism is behind a firewall to such an extent as it is today.
Starting point is 02:06:54 You could, even when newspapers were out there and they cost 25 cents, you could still go to the library and they had a special sticks. They had these sticks with the newspapers on them. Yes, the roll-up sticks. Big giant stick. And you'd read the newspaper, would be, and you'd read the newspaper, free, it was free, it was always free. brought when television came into being it was always it was always designed to be free and people
Starting point is 02:07:20 would say well i don't like advertising so they created public television and they said no advertising just give us some money if you want to donate and it was the same it was that was the value for value thing it's like and that churches of course have been using value for value forever they don't charge you to go into the church no you go and you want to hear a free sermon you can get it you don't have to give them money but if you feel that was worth something you give them money it's not a big deal and it's a very common practice, and it works. And the fact that people will put stuff behind firewalls, especially journalists, and I'm including Matt Taibi in this, he does it.
Starting point is 02:07:54 It's not right. You know, I don't think I've ever told you the story, but when Tina was first going to church here and then I was, you know, doing the show, same as I've always been doing it. But I'd like to get up at 7 o'clock and, you know, then do the prep and do the show and go through and one. one deal. These days I get up early, prep, go to church, come back, prep, and then we do the show. But I would be watching it on YouTube. And so to me, it was just, it was YouTube,
Starting point is 02:08:24 and I was seeing this YouTube stuff the whole time. And as she come home, we discuss it. And so eventually, we have a dinner with Pastor Jimmy and his wife, Day Manette. And the first thing that comes out of my mouth is, oh, Pastor Jimmy, I love your show. And he starts cracking up. And then I'm like, he says yeah i guess it is kind of Tina's like oh my god what do you just say i said yeah you start off you got your your worship team which is christian for band then you got your promos because they got promos then you get your donation segment then you got your deconstruction and then you wind up with another song it's a complete show and yet they are the OG value for value and they just says hey do you want to support us this is this is where it's going this is what we're doing this is what happens with it and
Starting point is 02:09:11 no one's holding a gun to your head. You're absolutely right. But we studied some of the big megachurches early on, didn't we? Yeah. Yeah, there was a guy who put a book together. I can't remember the name of breaking the glass or something. He tried to buy all the books back because it was too revealing. And it was a megachurch.
Starting point is 02:09:31 That's true. And it had all the tricks and every little thing you can do to get more money out of people. And it was like, wow, these guys know what they're doing. The megachurch guys are no slouches. No, no, no. They've got a lot going on. And they come in from all kinds of dimensions. They're very talented at maintaining a big operation.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I always love the guys like, who's that one guy? He's kind of icky. He has like three jets. And then, you know, some girl around. You're taking a Copeland. Copeland, yeah. Hope is the ickyest of the group, yeah. And some journalist comes up and starts at the airport,
Starting point is 02:10:17 and he's like, no, no, I went to spread the gospel around the world. I flew for 26 hours, you know, it's like, I don't know. I don't know. That seems a bit much. One of my favorite guys in this group was Robert Tilton, another Texas preacher. I've heard of him, yeah. Robert Tilton, yeah, he's kind of disappeared. He did a lot of, he would be.
Starting point is 02:10:40 he would scrunch his face up in all kinds of weird contortions as he talked. And it was just like, wow, you couldn't keep your eyes off him because he was always scrunching his face up. And then he would just out of the blue while just saying whatever he was talking about, go right into tongues. Yeah, you're not supposed to do that in public. Well, he does it, did it all the time. And he was very, very entertaining character. But he always seemed like a scammer. like a lot of these guys
Starting point is 02:11:09 seem like to me but the one I still like the most I think in terms of just his ability to do not that this is not boring people stiff with this discussion but but I still think Joel Osteen is one of the
Starting point is 02:11:22 he's very successful but I think he's underrated he is I think he's incredibly talented guy you know what's interesting about him is he takes no money from the church he gets all his money from his books Is that what he says?
Starting point is 02:11:41 Let's send our accountant Jason Calacanus to investigate. Hey, O. See, I'm here. Investigate. She was showing on. He's money flocks. Anyway, so that was a little discussion, a little side street we took there on Value for Value. We accept multiple versions of Value for Value. Turns out churches use this as well. We didn't even know this when we said time, talent, and treasure. I love it when people send me some some past. He's talking about time, talents, and treasured. Like, this guy must be listening to the show. That's right.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Even though this has been going on for hundreds of years. But I didn't know it at the time when we came up with it. So one of the ways you can support the show is with your time, with your talent. You know, you can organize meetups. You can help us. We have Sir Donald Winkler stepped up. He's doing a really nice Christmas special for us for a Thursday. And he says, you know, there's been a lot of really nice discussions around Christmas on the show.
Starting point is 02:12:43 He says, it's going to be very nice and happy and friendly. And I'm like, I don't believe it. And I'll see it when I hear it. So that's an incredible. And he says, you know, I used to be able to donate a lot of cash. But after COVID, things got really tight. And so I'm really happy I can support the show. And that makes me equally as happy as anything.
Starting point is 02:13:03 How about you? Yeah, I love the volunteerism aspect of the show. That's fantastic. Such as the art, which of course is. The volunteerism of these art machines that are cranking this stuff out with the prompt jockeys that are now considered themselves artists. Yes. It's a fabulous new era. You consider themselves art.
Starting point is 02:13:24 So Scaramanga sent me, no, because he did an end of show mix for the show. And also, on X, he put it, he did a video for it, which is always kind of cool. a bonus. And he says, no, I got no problem with it. He says, I just feel like... Didn't scare a manga turn against us on the old No Agenda Social once before. I think he, this is, he's, this is his personality. BPD, babe.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Maybe. He's doubling down. He's doubling down. No, I don't think so. I think apparently as a, some kind of supermodel life, which now it all makes sense. Oh, now it makes sense. Right? He's preoccupied.
Starting point is 02:14:06 He said, maybe we should limit uploads to two or three. He says, there's just too much slop. I said, that's, we're not, we can't limit how many times people want to upload. The other thing, the other thing he ignores, since we're the art directors in this, in this regard, even though, you know, we're not technically, but yes, we are technically. Yeah. Is that you want everything. You know, it's like the photographer, you know, there's two kinds of photographers.
Starting point is 02:14:31 The guys always make the perfect shot. and the guys who take 1,000 pictures. It's called Spray and Prey. And they just take a thousand pictures and they find one of you that looks good. Yeah. No, we don't, there's no reason to limit. If you want to submit 100 pictures, if there's 100 of the exact same picture, don't do it.
Starting point is 02:14:50 Don't, don't. But, you know, be judicious. Yeah, it was kind of, I took it a bit like, there's not a slight against us. You think we can't sift through it? No, we're not telling people what to do. No, we're not telling people what to do. ever. That's our motto. But you should support us with your cash. Yeah, we tell them that.
Starting point is 02:15:08 Yeah. So Jeffrey Ria did the artwork for episode 1826. We titled it the Sourcrowkid, which is the German version of noodle boy. And I couldn't argue with you on this one. It was a pretty piece of AI, no agenda, Curry, Dvorak, a little microphone there, always so original, little microphone and little transmitter waves. But it said, yeah, stuff you hated. Yeah, but it said, give these guys a bonus. and had little money bags and gold coins and yeah how could I argue with that it was our subliminal subliminal messaging give these guys a bonus yeah yeah exactly so we chose that we chose it over oh man there's already a lot up there's been doing a lot of comic book looking covers yeah I know how we kind of like Darren's eggnog no agenda eggnog yeah we did like the eggnog that
Starting point is 02:16:00 That probably came in second. Yes, it was a classic. You like the comic book, the media deconstructionists comic book, punk rock album work. Yes, I did like that. I like the one next to it too. I like all these comic book ones, but they're not going to, since you hate them to such an extreme. I said, hang it up, print it out and hang it on your wall if you like it so much, man. And I did.
Starting point is 02:16:24 But we did give a special mention. to Blue Acorn for the disappointed Scaramanga walking away from his easel. Oh, yes, that was cute. It's on page two. And we also had Jeffrey Rio with the razor blades in the bread. Yeah, we didn't think that was a great connection to make with the show. Yeah. Like we're putting razor blades in, no.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Yeah, yeah. It was a associative issue. Yeah. people who have to understand that a little bit. What people did send me, because this came about as we were talking about, I think we were talking about PC magazine and photographers. And so people sent me that wired picture where you were supposedly in a trench coat looking like some kind of spook.
Starting point is 02:17:17 That was done. Yeah, that photo. It's a good picture. No, it's a great picture. I had him give me a copy of it. That was done with a infrared filter. That coat was actually dark navy. Oh, different color.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Interesting. It wasn't changed. I mean, because it was an infrared filter. The whole shot was done with an infrared. Hold on a second. Kids, come over to your boomer uncles for a second. Back in the day, we'd go out with a camera, and we had something called a camera case.
Starting point is 02:17:49 And this isn't like a case that you put around your iPhone. So if you drop it, it doesn't shatter into a thousand people. The case had things in it, like extra film. It had different lenses that you would click one lens off and click another lens on. And it had filters, which are these little pieces of glass, I guess. I don't know what it was, plastic glass. And you would screw those onto the lens itself to get certain effects. Can you believe how analog the world was back then?
Starting point is 02:18:22 So that's what he shot. and yeah it was a funny picture cute but that was after finally that's the one we finally ended up but that was shot over at Golden Gate Fields by the horse park and that was good and that was after you tried to get me to jump stand on my head you know stick my tongue out all the other stuff that I say that you just refuse to do and so I kept refusing to do everything until that picture came out but did that there's all kinds of ugly troll talk about you and jolly O'Dell I'm just going to have to look away from you. O'Dell.
Starting point is 02:18:54 Yeah. I must to look away from it. They're saying horrible things. What's Julie O'Dell you got to do with any of this? Nothing. Nothing. And then, of course, the fabulous interview where the hit piece that turned out to be not a hit piece. I got all that now.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I got all of it. I have an archive now of Dvorak scandalous moments. Oh, yeah. Hey, that's why I'm working with you, man. So I can build up an archive of scandalous moments. So congratulations to Jeffrey Rhea for bringing us the artwork. Now, we already see a lot has been uploaded. We appreciate everything that you do.
Starting point is 02:19:32 Keep on prompting. Sometimes an actual artist pops up. We do pay attention to that. So extra points, if you do it, noagendaartgenerator.com. And we always want to thank everyone who supports the show financially. We'll mention everybody $50 and above. And we start in this portion of the program with something we have deemed our executive and Associate Executive Producers segment.
Starting point is 02:19:55 Why? Because, just like Hollywood, when you really are financing the whole deal, which can pay off in spades in Hollywood here, we just give you part of the payoff, and that is a credit right there on the show, in the show notes. You can use this credit anywhere. Hollywood-style credits are accepted, including IMDB.com.
Starting point is 02:20:15 $200 and above, you get an Associate Executive Producer credit, and we will read your note, $300 and above. you get an executive producer credit, and we will also read your note. And back with a vengeance, with $501.56, which I presume is some fees were added, is the noagenda shop, noagenda shop.com, which is fantastic. Noagendashop.com is we have a deal with them, which consists of no deal. You can do whatever you want. Just send us a donation.
Starting point is 02:20:47 They sell nice hats. They sell beautiful hats. They sell all kinds. of good stuff. And no agenda shop says, they're in Georgia, by the way. ITM, John and Adam, sorry for being
Starting point is 02:20:59 MIA so long, but A, I, and the decimated economy have thrown me overboard. Man overboard! I had to focus all my time on staying employed. Thank you for your consistent courage and any positive karma
Starting point is 02:21:15 you can throw my way. Well, of course, we'll give you some karma, and karma is always positive. you've got karma okay so now you have james morin in jackson oh jackson californ which is a cool place 500 bucks from him merry christmas i heard you guys talk about ai advertisements in the past and wanted to share this experience when i talked to claude which is supposed to be the kindest gentlest AI at the moment Is that true? Yeah, that's what everyone says.
Starting point is 02:21:51 It's kinder and gentler. Oh. When I talk to Claude about LLN, I've never used it, about LLMs, it always recommends itself as the best. Well, the coders say that Claude is really good at coding. Is that right? Yeah, that's what they say. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Well, they probably would know what they're talking about. He says it's the best, but the other day I was asking about AI Data Center water usage and clawed through Open AI and Jet and GPT4 under the bus, talking about how much water they use. AI manipulation is already here. Yes, indeed. Those guys stink. I also wanted to share that I've created a pirate AI radio station
Starting point is 02:22:34 and my friends and I build celebrity DJs for the station. By far, the best DJ has been DJ Trump. Sharing one of the most recent segments for your listening play. pleasure. I was inspired by Adam's vibe coating and put together an ice cast and liquid soap audio stream for the station. And he has it here. You'll put a link into the thing, I hope. Well, what he did was the link goes to DJ Trump. And so I downloaded DJ Trump. He didn't actually link to the station, so I don't know what the state. We do have Gitmojams.com is our AI slop station that MVP and I are running.
Starting point is 02:23:17 But have a listen to DJ Trump. Folks, we're listening to Soundgarden here. Tremendous band. Really tremendous. Chris Cornell had an amazing voice. Maybe one of the best voices ever. Many people are saying this. Seattle Grunge.
Starting point is 02:23:32 But you know what? Not electronic. Fake news from the teleprompter folks. Totally fake news. This is pure American rock and roll. The best rock and roll. Some say better than the Rolling Stones, who, by the way, should pay tariffs.
Starting point is 02:23:47 British, not sending their best, but Soundgarden. They're ours. They're American. And this song fell on Black Day is very dark, very powerful. Nobody does dark and powerful like Americans. Believe me. Yeah, there you go. Not bad. Yeah, that sounds like it's good. It could be a little better. DJ Joyce. A little bit of Calacanis in that for some reason. I am an engineer. I'm going to finish his note. I'm an engineer working with AI technologies. and these things are fantastic for entertainment purposes. I agree with him. That's it.
Starting point is 02:24:19 James Morin and Jackson, that's Gold Country, California. Joseph Gass is from Wilmington, Delaware, and he sends 343. We appreciate that. We'll return the favor with an executive producer, and since you didn't have a note, we'll give you a double-up karma. You've got. Karma. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:24:41 This is Matthew Martel in Brumol, Pennsylvania. Martel Hardware, 333. Merry Christmas, everybody. Repetition gets the sale. At some point, you'll visit Martelhardware.com and use coupon code green eggs and ham. For an additional 10% off your order, JCD Hot Pockets. Karma for everybody.
Starting point is 02:25:09 Hot Pockets. you've got karma yeah then i just want to insert a make-good since where this is that was our last executive producer the last show we had parker uh whose note got lost apparently um and let me see he had some jingles i just wanted to uh uh wanted to read his note because i he sent me a copy of it ITM Adam. It's an honor. That's Parker Geistwhite. It's an honor to be called your mentee. I am truly blessed to call you, my friend. I want to thank you again for taking me to visit Rogan was truly an amazing experience. Before listening to your podcast, I was lost and trying to find a sense of direction of what is real and fake in the media and podosphere. Thanks to you, I am now a Bitcoin maximalist. You made me realize that the entire financial system is rigged and it gave me hope for the future of our family ranch. Everything is fake and gay. Also, your guidance and wisdom have helped me open, exploring my faith in God and Jesus.
Starting point is 02:26:17 And John, when my Texas A&M Aggies win a national championship, I'll send you a hoodie. Oh, that's good news. Yeah, well, I send me the hoodie anyway because you already lost. Hot pockets, mac and cheese, and jobs karma. Hot pockets. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Macon cheese.
Starting point is 02:26:37 Macon cheese. macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought, how much. And, oh, go ahead. It was me, but you're fine to do it.
Starting point is 02:26:57 Let me do this one. Then you got an empty one next. It's good. It's good balance. Yeah, I just wanted to say something. Sure. Texas A&M, I do not understand how that team can only score three points. and lose to University of Miami in the playoff game, but they did.
Starting point is 02:27:13 How did the horns do, the Austin Longhorns? They're not in the playoffs. Oh, so they suck even more? Well, they never suck. They're just not one of the best teams. Because, you know, there's the big rivalry, the Huckham Horns versus the Aggies. Well, the Aggies were far superior, but Texas did beat the Aggies head-to-head. But here, this is Aggie country by default here because Austin Bad, just Austin Bad.
Starting point is 02:27:42 So we're more Aggies here. What about the Rangers? Texas Tech. What's their team? Texas Tech. I don't know. The techies. Woo!
Starting point is 02:27:58 John Rucker comes in with a Bitcoin donation, the amount of 0.0033 BTC on behalf of me. Na'eim Pinto. A deduishing for both of us, please. You've been deduished. So we'll say that's the deduishing for John, and here's the deduishing for Naim Pinto. You've been deduished. By the way, that works out to $287.75, and he winds up by saying, more Africa news. Oh, there's a, hey, there you know. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Yep. If you send us value, we'll give you more valuable African news. I think it's the Red Riders, by the way. Strike, this is just a blanket. 287.68. There's nothing. Let me go to the next one. To give this strike donor who sent in $287.68 cents to double up karma. All right. You've got to send this a no people. You've got. Double up.
Starting point is 02:28:56 Karma. Christopher Graves. Graves. In Mount Ockham, California. I still don't know where that is. 242. Oh, this is, of course, our little John's guy. Yes, Little John's candies. Short and sweet that last days until, Chris, you already gave him a promotion
Starting point is 02:29:13 today for their eggnog fudge. Eggnog fudge. People would just order that. Yes. Go to Littlejonscandies.com. Use code IT. Oh, I got the hiccups now. Oh, no. Use code ITM 10 plus 10, save 10, donate 10. Little Johns Candies 242. Good for him. Sir Luca is in Walla Walla, Washington
Starting point is 02:29:32 sends the classic 234. five, six. He says, Merry Christmas, Adam and John. A jingle and a double karma request for Christmas. Well, what is the jingle he wants? It doesn't specify the jingle. Oh. Hot pockets. No, actually, he specifies it below. I didn't even see this. He wants a Scott Simon. Okay. A Scott Shimon, that is. Yes, we've got a Scott Shimon follow by health karma. The Yak variety and finished with a TPP jobs karma. Okay, we're going to have to put the...
Starting point is 02:30:06 We're going to have to put it together. There we go. Sir Luca of the Southeast. Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.
Starting point is 02:30:23 Jobs. Jobs. Job, Job, Job. You've got. There we are. There we go. You got it. up. She's in Amherst, Massachusetts Nuts, 2.3333. All right. Hello, Adam and John. Please dedoosh my
Starting point is 02:30:43 husband, Josh. You've been deduished. And it's on the Sunday before the Christmas episode, and that's exactly right. I think she put this note aside. Uh, he hit me in the mouth over a year ago, and I'd like to gift him the title of associate executive producer. This is switcheroo. That's beautiful. All right. So that is... Josh, okay? Would you play the shut up slave jingle? And I guess, uh, I have an apple in my room. I guess I'll, oh, I guess I'll have an apple in my room.
Starting point is 02:31:15 That's the, uh, Peggy or whatever. That's me. Gigi, on Gigi. Gigi. If you have it, readily available. Thank you for everything you're doing. Merry Christmas, Becca. Yes.
Starting point is 02:31:24 Well, I'll have to do that live because, uh, Aunt Gigi is long gone. So, shut up, slave. I'll just have an apple in my room. Boom. Next we have, what is this? This is a note. Oh, this is from suits and boots. This is from Sir Rob, the constitutional lawyer.
Starting point is 02:31:48 Call the suits.com. He has a whole, is this Chad GPT? He's got all kinds of artwork on this. All right. An official injury lawyer, 233.33. regarding donations slash switcheroo. ITM, boys. Sorry, I haven't donated in a while. We started the new law firm, suits and boots this year,
Starting point is 02:32:12 and it's consumed all my resources. Producers can and should check us out at callthesuits.com. That's right. If you have a hangnail, call the suits.com. They'll get your money. December brings two special occasions that compel a donation. First, my 33rd wedding anniversary. Oh, yes, indeed.
Starting point is 02:32:32 It was on December 19th. On that day in 1992, I married the love of my life, the beautiful and talented Maggie. I agree. She is beautiful and talented. At the stunning St. Mary's Cathedral in downtown Austin. Second, Maggie will turn, and it has a big redacted years old on December 24th. Yes, Christmas Eve. But never fear. We always take care of her. Kindly added to the birthday list.
Starting point is 02:32:56 Done. To mark these occasions, I've enclosed the check for $233.33. Please credit this donation to Maggie. these dedusher. You've been deduished. So he says, he says, to mark these occasions,
Starting point is 02:33:16 oh, God, deducer, I respectfully request the 33 is a magic number jingle for obvious reasons, wishing you, your families, and all my fellow producers of Merry Christmas and a safe, peaceful, and prosperous 2026 with love and admiration, Robert J. Cardi, Jr.,
Starting point is 02:33:32 a.k.A. Sir Rob, the constitutional lawyer, P.S., that Darren O'Neill is an asset, double his salary. Done. Done. Consider it done. That's the magic number. It's the magic number. Douglas Murray in Missoula, Montana, 21525. You guys rock, he writes.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Your show is triple tits, 71.75 times three. That's 2.15 to 75, I guess. Wow, okay. Also, you have, I don't know how I guess, but, okay. Also, you have the best troll room in the universe. Ah, no jingles, no karma, love. Did you top? Eli, the coffee guy, 212, 21.
Starting point is 02:34:29 He always brings the date in with $200. He says, it's the last chance. to wish everyone and Gitmo a Merry Christmas before the big day. Thank you, Adam and John, for giving us something to look forward to besides presents under the tree. And thank you to all the producers who gave the gift of Gigawatt this holiday. You helped make our season bright. It's never too late to send someone some coffee. Just visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com and use code ITM 20 for 20% off your order.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Merry Christmas and stay caffeinated. And Eli, Darren O'Neill said he wants some coffee scent. him. So I don't know if you can put him on the free list, but you could practically deliver it because he's in Chicago. You can walk over there. Yeah. Eli, the coffee guy. Thank you, Eli. Indie N-A meetup in Greenwood, Indiana, 205. And we have a switcher-roo. This is the Indie No Agenda meetup. A raffle winner is Dame Maria. Oh, the organizer, yes. Of the Greek kingdoms. Maria's note, Sir Mark and I wish all of our No Agenda family, Merry Christmas and happy holidays and blessings to all and especially to Adam and John and all your families.
Starting point is 02:35:40 Karma to all and to all a good night. With a cake. You've got karma. So now we have two $200 associate executive producer donations without a note. So I will combine their double up karma. Thank you, Steve Peterson from Kingeroy, Queensland, Australia. Let us know how things are going. there in Kingoroy and Ian Sloan from Atterdale, Washington, Western Australia.
Starting point is 02:36:09 Wait a minute, two Aussies in a row, no notes? This cannot be coincidence. Please send us some notes to make up. You've got Karma. Very suspicious. Linda Lou Padkins up. She's in Castle Rock, Colorado. We know that.
Starting point is 02:36:26 $200. Jobs, Karma. Need a last minute gift? Give the gift of a resume that gets results. Go to Imagemakersink.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMaker's Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Merry Christmas, Linda. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yvesa. Pama. And finally on our list, we have Paul Kroshulik. Then I pronounce that properly
Starting point is 02:36:59 because he sent a pronunciation guide. He just said, Paul Krasulik. $200. He's in Binghamton, New York. Thank you very much. And I also want to thank Lady Vox. Lady Vox sent me a beautiful Christmas package with a card and some sock-eye salmon from a... She's in Alaska. And some, like a little box with salted fish. Have you read one of those? I had the sock. She sent me the Suckeye salmon? Yeah. Have you had it yet? I haven't opened it yet. No, I put in a refrigerator, actually. Yeah. But did you try the salted fish?
Starting point is 02:37:31 I didn't see a salted fish. I think that was a sock-eye salmon. Oh, well, you got jipped, man. The sock-eye, the salted fish is good. It comes like in a, looks like a pack of, a deck of cards. Oh, I saw, yeah, I did get the deck of cards. I thought it was a deck of cards. So that I'm like, what kind of cards are these?
Starting point is 02:37:49 Wait a minute, that's fishy. Yeah, salted fish. Oh, I have the deck of cards put aside. There you go. Thank you all to these executive and associate executive producers for this pre-Christmas show. 1827 is the episode. We appreciate what everyone does here to keep the best podcast in the universe rolling.
Starting point is 02:38:08 You can go to know whatgen the Donations.com And that is where you can support us. Any amount, any time you want to, that is how value for value works. No subscriptions, no hoops, no jumps, no levels. Just whatever you feel the show is worth to you according to your own budget. Just send that back to the show.
Starting point is 02:38:26 That's how you keep it rolling. Nowaginthdonations.com, congratulations to these producers. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Man overboard. Shut up. Man, I just got to play this one clip because it was so funny.
Starting point is 02:38:53 It's even better with video, but you'll get the idea. This president just keeps on entertaining. as far as I'm concerned. Sleepy, divisive, and a fan of a young Donald Trump. These are just some of the descriptions to be found in a series of new plaques affixed below the portraits of all U.S. presidents, including Donald Trump himself. While the plaques may look like many official markers, they are written in the style of one of Trump's true social posts
Starting point is 02:39:24 and contain his haphazard capitalizations and numerous exclamation points. They are the latest addition to Trump's president. Walk of Fame, which he unveiled in September, and contained many insults and unfounded claims about most of his predecessors. Joe Biden, who was referred to as Sleepy Joe, and by far the worst president in American history, is still the only leader. That's the actual plaque reading. Not to have his portrait in a frame. Instead, a photo of an auto pen with his signature was used. Barack Obama was deemed one of the most divisive political figures in American history,
Starting point is 02:40:02 while Ronald Reagan was described as a fan of President Donald J. Trump before President Trump's historic run for the White House. The White House confirmed the plaques convey Trump's opinion. The plaques are eloquently written descriptions of each president and the legacy they left behind. As a student of history, many were written directly by the president himself. This installation is just Trump's latest effort to remake the White House in his own image and reshape U.S. history to his own.
Starting point is 02:40:32 viewpoint. Well, that goes hand in hand with this clip then. Massive troll. I just love the troll. No, he's a massive troll. He's actually embarrassing. This is the Trump renaming the Kennedy Center. Oh, this is another good one. Friday revealing the new Trump Kennedy
Starting point is 02:40:48 Center to the horror of the late President John F. Kennedy's family. Jeff K's niece, Maria Shriver, posting, it is beyond wild that Trump would think adding his name in front of President Kennedy's name is acceptable. Next thing, perhaps, you will want to rename JFK Airport. renamed the Lincoln Memorial. The list goes on. Democrats indicating action ahead.
Starting point is 02:41:07 We may not be able to stop it today. Obviously, the lettering is going up. But let's just see how long that lettering stays up. Exhibition members of the Kennedy Center board said federal law established a center as a memorial to President Kennedy and prohibits changing its name without congressional action. But Trump also moved ahead rebranding the Department of Defense without congressional approval. No. So far, no vote in Congress making the Department of War official. That change implemented worldwide would reportedly cost $2 billion. So.
Starting point is 02:41:44 By the way, the Democrats after changing Ford Hood to some other names, changing all these forts and then tearing down statues and all the rest, that was fine. And by the way, it was named by LBJ a year after he was assassinated, Probably more like LBJ, like, yeah, I did that. You know, it's like, okay. The president has also been very busy with his pen, no auto pen with him, the ensuring American space superiority executive order.
Starting point is 02:42:15 This is a doozy. Yeah. Yes. My administration will focus its space policy. Oh, we need a space policy on the show. We do. On achieving the following priorities. Of course, leading the world in space exploration, expanding human reach and American presence in space by, colon, returning Americans to the Moon, returning, returning Americans to the Moon by 2028 through the Artemis Program to assert American leadership in space.
Starting point is 02:42:48 Oh, we're already there. Lay the foundations for lunar economic development. Prepare for the journey to Mars and inspire the next generation of American Explore. along with that, establishing initial elements of a permanent lunar outpost by 2030 to ensure... The Israeli moon bases. That's right, to ensure a sustained American presence in space and enable the next steps in Mars exploration. This is fantastic. Enhancing, this is for Elon, enhancing sustainability and cost effectiveness of launch and exploration architectures,
Starting point is 02:43:26 including enabling commercial launch services and prioritizing lunar exploration. Thought we explored that thing already. And then there's some missile stuff by 2028 to kill everybody, ensuring the ability to detect, characterize, and counter threats to the United Space interest from very low Earth orbit and through cis lunar space. SIS lunar space, S-C-I-S-L-L-E-S-L-E-S-L-E. U-N-A-R?
Starting point is 02:43:59 What is cis? I have no idea. Is that like a white machine? You have not talked. You have not talked to the robot for weeks. I don't want to talk to the robot. Situated between the Earth and the Moon, cis-luner. Well, what is cisgendered then?
Starting point is 02:44:18 Between the Earth and the Moon. Yeah. No, I've given up on the road. The robot, it takes too long for the robot to respond if the robot could just you know you just say hey robot and the robot says yes yes master what kind of do for you it AI just doesn't do that yet it's not a great conversational partner so uh the zeds are at it again oh no are they in discord I don't know they don't say and they don't even mention it as though it was a you know a gen Z revolution or anything
Starting point is 02:44:53 but it's going on a Z uprising once again This time it's in Korea, and they kind of soft-pedaled it. I don't know exactly why, and I'm not absolutely sure who's behind it. I mean, I still have to assume it's our intel people, but I don't know. But listen to this. South Korea recently marked a year since President Yun Suk Yul's failed martial law attempt. While the country's new leader is trying to move on from the chaos and division, Mr. Yun is finding new fans amid disaffected young people, did young people earlier this.
Starting point is 02:45:26 month, thousands took to the street calling for Mr. Yun's release from prison and claiming that his martial law was justified. Our sole correspondent, Jake Kwan, sent us this report. Hmm. Okay. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, this is a against China. Wait a minute. So kids actually are going to the street saying, get a politician out of jail? That's how the Jen says. Yeah, this is that Korean president who declared martial law, if you remember. It's during, you know, a couple of years ago. remember it he goes nuts and declares martial law for some reason they throw him in jail and now the kids and now the kids want him out because he was so loved by gen zed in that it makes nothing but sense no it
Starting point is 02:46:09 doesn't it makes it nothing less they try to explain it as best they can i'm standing in front of the iconic wongman gate where south korean people gather every weekend to protest and in front me are thousands of people here wading south korean a flag and waving a sign that says release Yun Sogiel and martial law was justified. It really has this era of a festival rather than a political rally. One booth invited people to a mock presidential podium to declare martial law like Mr. Yun had done. Last December, in the middle of the night, Mr. Yun had put the country under military rule. He had made baseless claims that Chinese spies have stolen past elections and that the opposition party was.
Starting point is 02:46:56 complicit. When Mr. Yun was eventually removed from the office and jailed, it was considered his political death. But now he has a new life among these young people as a hero who opposed the Chinese takeover. This is Park Jun Young, the
Starting point is 02:47:14 leader of Freedom University. He and his group of far-right students are behind these pro-YUN anti-China rallies. Korean people's rights are being stolen. Our sovereignty that risk, and the Chinese are coming in without visa, and crimes are becoming frequent. Their claims were refuted over and over by the government.
Starting point is 02:47:37 The police stats show, in fact, that the crime rate among Chinese is lower than among South Koreans. Oh, this has us written all over it, doesn't it? The whole Trump agenda, lock the borders down, these Chinese are coming, just replace Trenderagua or Venezuelans or Haitians or Haitians or. I can't wait until an actual Korean says, these Chinese are eating the dogs. That would be coming.
Starting point is 02:48:03 The tree comes close. Their protests are more energized and provocative than any other this country has seen in a long time. Most people joined us because of a simple message. Korea is for Koreans. Today, Park's message spread through social media is drawing in young people who share his suspicion on China. CCP.
Starting point is 02:48:25 I'm Yiminseng, 27 years old. There are times when I don't hear Korean on the street. Even when I go to the corner store, I only hear Chinese. That really scares me. Here in Seoul, they wear red hats with the words, make Korea great again. And if the American youth voters swung over to bring back an impeached president, why not in Korea?
Starting point is 02:48:51 For years, these people have held a deep grudge for what they saw as lack of opportunities and overbearing woke politics and when Mr. Yun named the enemy they signed up to fight. See, unlike you, I'm going to give you a full clip of the day for that. Clip of the day.
Starting point is 02:49:09 You always give me like weak, like, borderline. Oh, I deserve it so much. That was good. Well, that one was pretty good because you caught you off guard. That was good. You only give me clip of the day when it's something you never heard about.
Starting point is 02:49:25 Well, yeah, that's why it's a clip of the day. Of course, if I'd already heard about it, then I would be playing it before you because I control the clips. I'd be like, I'm going to grab that clip of the day. And then you wouldn't give it to me because, like, I had that clip. Yeah. That's how it works. Without the voice. So this is, you're right.
Starting point is 02:49:42 This has got us written all over. It's pretty good. And they got the hats, Macca. Really? Maca, Maca, Maca, Maca, make, make Korea. Macca, Maca, Maca, Maca, make Korea, great to get. Makga, Makkha, may Korea agree. Oh, yeah, they'd be, may Korea agree.
Starting point is 02:49:59 Yeah, well, they probably have it in Korean. It probably has a different look to it. I'd like to get, by the way, anyone, any Korean listeners, I want the hat if it's in Korean. Yes, we want a hat. So the Moe prophecy strikes once again. Most prophecy, if you recall, was all of the DEI ladies who were put up in important positions.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Yes, set up to fail. Set up to fail, blamed for everything. In this case, I believe that D.C.'s police chief, Pamela Smith, probably was really set up. She is being accused of fudging crime statistics, and so she's resigning. And then in a resignation, she says, no, no, no, I didn't change it. They changed it, insinuating that they are blaming. her, and she had quite a meltdown over it during her resignation speech. Never would I compromise my integrity. Never would I compromise 28 years in law enforcement
Starting point is 02:51:09 for a few folk who couldn't stand to be held accountable. And if I had to do it all over again, I'd do what I do. Wait. Huh? So she pulls out the angry black woman as a methodology? What is she nuts? Let's continue the clip. I'm doing to the Bible when I say this, to my haters, F you.
Starting point is 02:51:43 The same folks who said in that report that they changed their numbers, and I did not. The report is very clear. I did not direct anyone. You should investigate those folks. So I tend to believe her, but you made an interesting point there. When I heard, and I had to listen to the clip three times, I'm like, I have heard this lady somewhere. This is going to come across as very racist, but no one will be able to argue with me that this lady doesn't sound like a different lady. Never would I compromise my integrity.
Starting point is 02:52:23 Never would I compromise. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone. Keep Obama in president, you know? He gave us a phone. Come on, man. It sounds a lot. You love that Obama phone girl. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.
Starting point is 02:52:40 Keep Obama in president, you know, he gave us a phone. And you know, I got the note from our female black producer. or she's like, do you only play black women when they're mad? I'm like, well, it's the funniest. We play the funniest clips and said, how about Nikki Minaj? I'm like, send me a link. She didn't send me a link.
Starting point is 02:52:59 Anyway, I just saw that Nikki Minaj was on stage at America Fest with Erica Kirk. I'll get some clips for the next show. Nikki Minaj is, she's got her head on straight, man. It's very surprising. She's taken, I think she's, yeah, I think she, she can be an important part of the movement in America for the young, the young kids. She got something going on. Well, she's been, like I said, last show, she's been a Republican for a while.
Starting point is 02:53:29 Yes. She voted for Romney. We have to remember that. Romney. Romney sucks. Let me hear that lady again. I love her. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority got Obama phone.
Starting point is 02:53:42 Keep Obama in president, you know? He gave us a phone. She doesn't have the Romney sucks in there. I got to get the Romney sucks part. Anyway, that was, so another Moe prophecy coming true as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I always thought it was a good prophecy. Let's go talking about angry black women. Let's go to the Minnesota.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Oh, that's right. Hakeem Jeffries is a guy. Never mind. Angry black woman, Hakeem Jeffries. So here's the Minnesota fraud, two clips. And one of them, I think, the second clip when Akeem Jeffries comes out, is hilarious, but I kind of have to agree. Here we go. The chairman of the House Oversight Committee is warning he may issue subpoenas if he does not get cooperation from Minnesota officials over the billion-dollar taxpayer fraud scheme in that state. Officials say this could just be the tip of the iceberg across the country.
Starting point is 02:54:33 Chairman James Comer says Minnesota's governor and attorney general have provided only minimal responses so far. Here's congressional correspondent Bill Malusian. They got nothing to run on except complain about this. So you complain at me, you bring it at me, but I'll have it fixed. then we'll see how you talk about it. Minnesota Governor Tim Wals' defiant today. As House Republicans accuse him and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison of stonewalling their investigation in a widespread Somali social services fraud in the state. Well, they're not cooperating with us. They're acting like there was no scandal. And if there were a scandal, they didn't have anything to do with it. Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer tells Fox, Wals and Ellison's initial
Starting point is 02:55:14 response to the committee's questions was, quote, providing no substantive information on how Medicaid is paid out in the state. We're going to start bringing people in. We're going to start subpoenaing people. We're also going to be looking at bank records. That's my favorite way to conduct an investigation. On Thursday, the U.S. attorney in Minnesota announced that at least half of the $18 billion paid out by Medicaid to Minnesota-run programs may have been fraudulent, with at least 14 programs exploited. The magnitude of the fraud in Minnesota cannot be overstated. It's staggering amounts of money. Yeah, I've been, I've been following this and reading some of it. It's pretty brazen,
Starting point is 02:55:56 particularly the autism fund. You know, basically they were setting up autism, uh, um, what is it, uh, therapy stuff. And just, just grab some, uh, grab some Somalis. Grab some Somalis. Hey, kid, go like, like this. You're autistic. In you go. And they just took the money. Yeah. It was huge, huge stats. Right. I mean, for a country whose average IQ in Somalia is 65. Oh, well, there you go. They qualify. These guys are pretty smart for 65. Right. About taking money. I think there's some scamish underlying thing going on here. But here's the, of course, the Democrats are all in. Yeah, they're fine. These Somalis.
Starting point is 02:56:43 are great. Yes, they're great. House Republicans are expressing outrage about the fraud on social media, pointing the finger at Governor Walls. But House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries isn't impressed with Chairman Comer or his committee's probe of Minnesota's leaders. Do you think they should cooperate with the committee's investigation and you have concerns about what's happening in the state? James Comer is a joke, an embarrassment, an unsurious individual, and a malignant clown. So clearly there's still some bad blood there between Comer and Jeffreys after a dispute about the Epstein files last month. As for the Minnesota fraud, Congressman Comer tells Fox that he is prepared to subpoena Governor Wals to come in and testify before the House Oversight Committee if Walls doesn't cooperate with their investigation, right? Bill, sometimes these things take time.
Starting point is 02:57:34 What's the next step here? So you heard Congressman Comer talk about wanting to get those bank records? He said specifically what he's looking for, things called suspicious activity reports. He wants to try to track what, if any, money was sent from Minnesota back to Somalia. Who was sending it, who got it, how much of it was taxpayer dollars. All right. We'll follow it. Bill, thank you. But will they be able to nail waltz is the question.
Starting point is 02:57:55 They won't be able to nail anybody comers involved. This is where I agree with Jeffrey. He's a joke. Yeah. I mean, what happened to Hunter Biden's laptop? But we're going to connect the Biden crime family because all I get the bank records. And so he's a big banker. oh so look at this the money's coming from here to here to here to here and here it is it shows
Starting point is 02:58:16 that there's a bunch of corruption going on they're just stealing money left and right and what do you what then so i mean i it's just at some point you have to be annoyed with certain people that just talk a big game do you have anything nice for us to leave on before we thank people because what we're doing is grousing everything is a scam man everything the whole the whole world is a scam I'm going to show my food by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Starting point is 02:58:54 Well, we have a few people to think. I was looking for the clips to see if there's anything I could actually go out on that was... There's nothing. Positive. It is all like this, except that, you know, another oil tanker was seized. Oh, that's fun. Yay! Yeah, well, that's free oil.
Starting point is 02:59:10 Yeah, that's true. That's true. So, you know, free oil is good. So we have a few people more to thank, and there are people who donate $50 and above, and Adam's going to read them off for us, one at a time. Yes, I shall. We start with Legacy Third LLC in Dallas. What do you think Legacy Third LLC is? I don't know. We'd have to look it up. Ah, I wonder what they do. They must do something interesting. Well, thank you. Yes. No, I was going to say they donate. They donate, which is good. Thank you very much. $198. Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, always coming in 168 today. ITM John and Adam. Merry Christmas. Thank you. Nathan Cochran. There he is. Franklin, Tennessee from Mercy Me, 1,23.45. It's always the introverted bass player who's really supporting us. Where are all these other guys? Where's the drummer? The drummer's never going to donate. It's only Nathan and Mike and, you know, I'm going to be, and Barry. That's it.
Starting point is 03:00:11 Julie Null, Glenn... What happened to her a Weezer drummer? I think he's man overboard. I think so, too. Julie Null, Glendale, Arizona, 1, 2, 3.4 or 5. Thank you, PayPal for $118.50. Glad you're listening. Karma, Karma,
Starting point is 03:00:28 Avandipur. Karma Ovandipur, maybe. Allen, Texas, 100. Megan Cougholt in Grove City, Ohio, 100. Thank you. Rickert Hong nutritional healing. Maria Rickert from Hong Nutritional Healing. Westport, Connecticut. Oh, we're all the hoity-to-oities live for $100. Thank you to another Bitcoiner. Just came in a strike. No note. We don't know who sent us the $94, but we appreciate it. And PayPal underneath the strikers with 9296.
Starting point is 03:01:02 How does that even happen? It just says PayPal. I don't understand it. I think that could be refunds. Do we get these refunds because we use the PayPal account for buying stamps and things that ship out the rings and things like that? And so PayPal gives you money back if you use their card. All right. All right. Well, thank you, PayPal. Tatiana Prince, Marlboro, New Jersey, 89.
Starting point is 03:01:27 Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of America and boobs. He says, I love boobs and the U.S. Constitution and sends us the requisite $80. and eight cents. 808. Chris Perry, Silver Spring, Maryland, 77. 77. I figured out what that is. 77. 77. 77. Is 69-69 plus fees. Believe it or not. Wow. Yes. Well, he sent me a note about it. Arts Tucker in Berchambach in the Netherlands, 77, so that's probably a 69. Lydia Terry Dominelli, Rochester, New Hampshire, 75. Monica Lansing, Drayton Valley, Alberta, Canada, 65, 75, 75, 7. Nicole Weirman in Tuolitan, Tuolitan, Oregon, 2alton, 555.
Starting point is 03:02:14 And Sir Patsy in Bellevue, Nebraska, double nickels on the dime, and it's blue. So I'm going to read the note because he's becoming a knight. He says, ITM, Adam and John, this 5510 pushes me over another $1,000 donated, accounting attached. I'd like to bestow a knight. Oh, a knighthood on my brother, Darius Miller. so it's a knight switcheroo. Please dedu she. You've been deduished.
Starting point is 03:02:41 Though he has never donated his own cash to my knowledge anyway, he has hit a lot of people in the mouth. Three of those people have gone on to become knights, including myself. He's a great example of what spreading the formula, propagating the formula, can accomplish. Please knight him, Sir Dee, if we could get him some Weller Antique 107 bourbon and fried catfish nuggets for the rest of the rest of.
Starting point is 03:03:04 round table. I know he would appreciate it. Jingles, chemtrails, and that's true, if possible. Much love, Merry Christmas from Sir Patsy. Kem Trails. It's true. No, it's not the one we wanted. That's true. This is the one I wanted. That's true.
Starting point is 03:03:22 No, that's not the one either. We have too many. It's true. It's true. Is this the one? Is this it? We welcome in. No. What is going on? chicks. There we go. That's true. Got it. I knew it was labeled right.
Starting point is 03:03:39 Zachary D. Barker from Beaver Creek, Oregon, also double nickels on the dime. Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland, 5272, Ronald Montesano, 5272, Ryan Aceto in Argyle, Texas, 50. These are the 50s. Terence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois. Andrew Gusek in Greenboro, North Carolina. Todd Voss in Davenport, Iowa, and C.T. from Parts Unknown, $50. Thank you very much to all of these producers and those who came in under $50, which we won't mention for reasons of anonymity. And, of course, again, our executive and associate executive producers,
Starting point is 03:04:16 we really do appreciate everything that you do. And you can support us for the next show. Now, the next show will be a best of doesn't mean you can't support us. In fact, we encourage it. So the show on next Sunday will be an extra long for, thanking all the people who've sent us their Christmas wishes. Noagendaddonations.com is where you can support the show. We are the best podcast in the universe, except no imitations.
Starting point is 03:04:40 We are the best podcast in the universe. Noagendidonations.com. It's a birthday, birthday on no budget. Very short list, but we do have important people there. Dame Nikki Ray turns 55 on December 23rd. And on the night before Christmas, we say, happy birthday in advance from Roachie. Rob Cardi, our constitutional lawyer, for his beautiful wife, Maggie. She'll be turning redacted years old.
Starting point is 03:05:07 Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. So we got one night, and there is the sword. Here you go. For me. Ooh, a nice one. Darius Miller, hop on up, sir. You are about to become a knight, and apparently you deserve every single piece of silver coating on that ring.
Starting point is 03:05:30 Thanks to your brother who hooked you up in the amount of $1,000 or more. I'm very proud to pronounce the KD as, Sir Dee. You are now an official night of the No Agenda Roundtable. For you, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay. Perhaps you'd like some Weller Antique 107 bourbon and fried catfish nuggets. We got them here at the round table, along with Gaesias and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong, hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, chintrail, and gerbils. We got breast milk and pablum, but as always, the favorite at the round table is the
Starting point is 03:06:00 and the mead. You, sir, head on over with your brother, perhaps, to noagenda rings.com. You'll see the handsome signet ring that we bestow upon the knights and dames of the no agenda roundtable. With that, a certificate of authenticity and some wax, which you can use to seal your important correspondence, just like Lady Vox when she sent it to me. It was nice. It's always fun to see this, the red sealing wax with the night ring embedded into it. Thank you all very much. Time for the meetups. Go and Chenda meetups. Yep.
Starting point is 03:06:37 The meetups is where you will find your future mate, perhaps, or for sure connection that gives you protection. The producers you will meet there will be a respondent. There's an emergency. And, of course, he had the big IndyNA meetup with Sir Mark and Dame Maria. Dame Maria received the credit from the raffle. And, of course, we have Annette. Matt Miller, who gave us a little report from the indie meetup.
Starting point is 03:07:03 Hi, this is Sir Mark. And this is Dame Maria, in minus 13 Celsius here, having an amazing time. And it's so good to end the year with this No Agenda family. Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year. Sir Benny here, and actually Adam, we're going to take your example of hearing aids tomorrow and go see the J-Bros and see if they're any good. Later. In the morning, Dave Swanee.
Starting point is 03:07:28 Merry Christmas, John and Adam. It's Annette in Millville, and I hope you guys have a great one. Also shout out to Cindy and Gary. In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy in the frozen tundra at 9 degrees. In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang, still working on my gay British accent. In the morning, this is Syrup of the Maple, and I'm giving Sir PBR Street Gang a really hard time trying to martyr that gay British accent. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Nick, and I'm still working on my straight American accent. Wait what?
Starting point is 03:08:03 Hi, this is Christine. I work at the Blind Owl Brewery and had the pleasure of serving this wonderful group today. And I even won a prize. In the morning, Merry Christmas. We denounce everybody. They are the best group. I tell you, we denounce everybody. Thank you all very much.
Starting point is 03:08:28 Thank you for getting your server in there. We love that. Yeah, this is the kind of fun you can have it in No Agenda Meetup. And if it can happen in Indiana, it can happen anywhere. Coming up, we have a meetup on December 23rd, Tuesday. This is the North Idaho Sanity Brigade, and they sent in a promo. I'm dreaming of a whi-gris. Just like the ones I used to know.
Starting point is 03:08:55 Yes, reverse cultural appropriation will abound, since I, Sir Scott, the Jew, will be hosting the North Idaho Sanit Brigade's Christmas party this Tuesday, the 23rd, at our usual Haunt the Trails and Brewery in Cordillane. Yes, that's Cordillane. That number again is Cordillane. Great food, great beer, and some of the best company in Gitmo Nation. Maybe I'll even kick in some of that Jew money and will crowd fund a donation as has become our tradition. Hope to see you there and remember, joy to the world, even though the world's a scam. core delane got it rhymes with core delane i'll never forget on friday the 26th uh that's boxing day
Starting point is 03:09:36 for some of you a recalcitrant christmas hangover meetup will take place at 23 p m in the backyard social club in clovis california oh sir recalcitrant crazy steve the second will be hosting that and on december 27th that's saturday the fort wayne club 33 invidia navidad post christmas meetup 3 o'clock at Cibola's Mexican Grill, and that is in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And the final meetup for this year, December 30th, Evansville, Indiana. Want to find all these? Want to get some details, hang out with some cool people. Go to knowagendaMeetups.com.
Starting point is 03:10:11 You'll find it all there. If you can't find anything there near you, you know what you do? Start one yourself. It'll be easy. And a hoot-nanny. You want to be where you want me. Triggered or hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same.
Starting point is 03:10:36 It's like a party. And it's time for man versus machine. That is the moment when we select our end of show ISO. And it has just become a man versus machine competition. As I tend to choose humans who say something cute or funny. and John chooses to use robots for this, for this segment. I have a real one today. You mean a human, a real human.
Starting point is 03:11:03 Do you want to play a real human first? No, I'd let you play yours and I can defer. I had a great time. Let's go. I don't like how that cut off. Here's my second one. On it like a hobo on a ham sandwich. Okay, that's all I got.
Starting point is 03:11:21 Wow. Yeah, well, sorry. I mean, I can't just prompt my. my way to success like some so let's go with the real one this is dump massive dump a massive dump now that was the real one okay so when they were going to machine machine i don't see machine oh no i know i no i'm different i got you i got you yes you're welcome let's start with uh capture it's not audience capture it's audience rapture Okay. I like the writing. I like the writing. It's okay.
Starting point is 03:12:00 Okay. Here's the other one for effort. These boys get an A for effort and an S for sexy. It's a little too long and a little too contrived because, let's face it, we're not sexy. Okay, let's go to Fab. What a fabulous show. No, I think it's not audience capture. It's audience rapture. I think that's the one. It's the way it says rapture. that just gets me. I love it.
Starting point is 03:12:26 Hey, everybody. I'm sorry. What do you want to say? I was just going to say the weird thing about those three clips, it was the same voice. That's the voice that, for some reason, if you change the speed, it turns it to a different person. And now, everybody, just in time for Christmas, it's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me, just the tip with JCD. And sometimes at all. Okay, people always want a Costco wine recommendation. going to do one.
Starting point is 03:12:57 This is a cheapie. This is the idea. It's a cheap wine for people who, you know, want to have something that's drinkable. It's quite good, surprisingly good, for $6.99. Whoa, that is a deal and a steel all in one. What's super cheap. And there's two, there's two versions. There's a $14.99 version.
Starting point is 03:13:15 There's a $6.99 version. The $6.99 is better because you can buy two bottles of that for the same price. So this is a new wine that just showed up. up. This is a 2023 Kirkland, Cabernet Sauvignon, Sonoma County, California, 2023. It's got a maroon label. The words Cabernet Sauvignon. That means it's military. It's got a maroon label and the Cabernet Sauvignon is what's highlighted on the label's writing. It's just this Cabernet Sauvignon real big. It's 699. There's a, there's one that's all says Napa Valley. Same thing. Only it's got a Navy blue label it's 1499 it's not as it's not as good as this in terms of it's for the price that's for sure
Starting point is 03:14:03 it's a very if you give it an hour to breathe so it breathes a little bit airs out this is a just that neither one of these wines tastes like cabernet Sauvignon by the way but they what do they taste like they taste like a really good quality wine a good table wine a general you know, a blend, a bordeaux blend. Camerone has a very distinctive flavor and I always expect to find, hope to find it in California wines. I find it less and less because nobody's blending for it anymore. They've gotten to this idea.
Starting point is 03:14:36 Well, let's just blend all these grapes together so it tastes like a bordeaux. If it would taste like a bordeaux, I'll go buy a bordeaux cost a buck more in those little wooden crates are better. But besides that, this is a very drinkable, perfect turkey wine that is. is cheap. And so this is your Costco tip of the day. Okay. So I think I will buy some of this Costco cheap wine because the kids were telling me, I call them the kids, they're in the 30s, that the hip drink these days is a mixed drink of red wine and Coca-Cola. Have you ever heard of this?
Starting point is 03:15:16 I have, actually. What is it called? It's called a disgrace. No, agenda fun.com, tip of the day.net for all of them. Nailed it. Just the tip with J.C.B. And sometimes, Adam. Created by Dana Burnett. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of the comedic stylings of Johnson-Divorak and Adam Curry.
Starting point is 03:15:43 As set up Alleyu, bam! Two points right there. Can't get that from your AI. Uh-uh. Not going to happen. What you also can't get is the show that's coming up after we vacate the stream. That will be Hawk Story with my man Fletcher there up a little bit north in Texas. And end-of-show mixes, very Christmassy themed.
Starting point is 03:16:05 We've got Scaramanga with his sweater puppies, MVP with the files coming to town, and Baron Darren O'Neill with a Gimmonation Christmas. You will not want to miss these. They are all in the show notes because it's AI Slop, and no one cares about the rights. No one makes any money. So please make sure you tune in for our special Sir Donald Winkler end of special show on Christmas, and of course be back on next Sunday.
Starting point is 03:16:33 So have yourselves a very merry Christmas coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Right here in Fredericksburg, in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where it remains inclement. I'm John C. DeVorek. We'll see you right after Christmas. Until then, take care, everybody. Remember us at Knowagint the Donations.com.
Starting point is 03:16:53 Adios, Mofos, a hooey, hooey, hooey, and such. Christmas sweater puppies, oh, what a sight, bouncing so merry and bright. Those woolly wonders wrapped up so snug, make this old Santa want to give them a hug. Christmas sweater puppies, jing, jingling all the way. Best gift under the tree any day. If Santa asks what I want this year, I'll point to your sweater and whisper those two Christmas sweatshers. sweater puppies. Oh, what a delight. Keeping me warm on a cold winter's night. Those woolly wonders wrapped up so tight. Baby, you're making Christmas feel just right. Christmas sweater puppies, jing, jing, jingling all the way. Merryest, cheeriest, happiest holiday.
Starting point is 03:18:21 sweater puppy fa la la la la la la la la yeah that's the spirit it is better watch out keep your lawyers nearby don't delete the cloud
Starting point is 03:18:45 I'm telling you why Epstein files are coming to town they're making a list Todd Blanche checked it twice some names were redacted but some aren't so nice the Epstein files are
Starting point is 03:19:05 on their way down they've got the grand jury from the Florida case they've got photos of passports and every rich face they know who signed the birthday book though they claim it's all
Starting point is 03:19:21 fake they know who took the payoff check for goodness sakes oh you better watch out don't start to cry the transparency act means you cannot hide bring down the clown knock down where's my son down rub down they see bill on the tarmac they see dawn at the club at the club Dersh with a nurse Woody Allen Just palin they see the low leader quotes And the island's up They've got the flight manifest From the private jets
Starting point is 03:20:00 And hundreds of thousand of docks That we haven't seen yet The files are near Yeah the list is coming Midnight Friday deadline passes Nothing to see here It's Christmas time It's a wonderful season of giving
Starting point is 03:20:38 The best gifts come right from the heart And make life worth living Coffee from Little John's Candy Shop We'll make Christmas morning really pop At a cup of gigawatch from me, The Coffee Guy Just watch your holiday spirit fly Fly
Starting point is 03:21:05 If you're feeling sore and moving like a possum You just need cows, magic lavender blossoms Or if a new job is what you need There's Linda Lou with the image makers So make all of your lists and check them at least twice And if you need a little help Here's my advice Some homemade coffee from little John's candy shops
Starting point is 03:21:40 We'll make Christmas morning really pop At a cup of gigawatt from Eli the coffee guy Just watch your holiday spirit fly. If you're feeling sore and moving like a possum, you just need cows, magic lavender blossoms. Or if a new job is what you need, there's Linda Lou with a bit of Tracker's ink. We're the king. Merry Christmas get moanation! The best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 03:22:22 Adios, mofo. Devorac.org. slash N.A. It's not audience capture. It's audience rapture.

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