No Agenda - 1830 - "Bulb Heads"

Episode Date: January 1, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The woman has three arms. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorex. It's Thursday, January 1st, 2026. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination Episode 1830. This is no agenda. Starting four more years and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:24 And from Northern Silicon Valley, we congratulate New York City and having a new mayor. I'm John C. DeVorek. It's CrackBot and Buzzkill In the morning Yeah, happy new year, everybody. Woo-hoo! Yeah! 2026!
Starting point is 00:00:41 Woo! It's awesome! Awesome! Is it just me? Or was this one of the quietest transitions we've ever had? And with that, I mean, I got very few texts. this year.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I got one. Firework seemed a lot, a lot more. Oh, we were rained out. It was raining here. It's raining as we speak. Yeah. Which is the first time I can ever remember it raining on January 1st in the Bay Area. And so it's raining.
Starting point is 00:01:17 So there's the fireworks there. Yeah, they had them. You could hear booms, but there was no, you couldn't see anything. No, it was here in Fredericksburg, Texas, very, very muted. Not a lot of people shooting stuff off. Television was extraordinarily boring this year. Like the same old dumb stuff they do. No one has any new ideas for what to do on New Year's on television.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It seemed like the most exciting thing was on X people saying, Hey, Grock, put a bikini on her. I missed that one. goodness you haven't seen that no oh that's best you haven't seen fat jd no it's so there's this the thing now is you post if someone posts a picture of themselves a woman and then you do at grok put a bikini on her and then the next picture is that is that same woman with the bikini oh that's a great feature it just goes on and on you don't have to you don't have to do it in your own brain anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Too lazy. Like, hey, and, you know, but then they're putting bikinis on dogs. You know, there's like, hey, Grock, show me the war criminal. You know, and there's Netanyahu. You know, all of this stuff. It's well worth of $1.3 trillion. I think, I think it's perfect. We're being entertained.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Well, back to your thesis about things being slow. I have to say, uh, this morning, they, they were doing it. They have this question and answer thing on one of the news stations. And they were going, they had all these guys around the round table saying, are New Year's parties over? I think so. And they were all, and everyone was saying, yeah, well, you know, you don't have to them all the time. And then they said, and then they had, they brought up the question, uh, what about kissing at New Year's?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Oh, I don't know. It doesn't seem that important to me. What's the point? Dude, we were in bed at 10.30. In bed. I got a show tomorrow. I had time for this nonsense. I'll kiss you now.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Good night, baby. I got to get up early. Yeah. I think the last real good New Year's Eve party I attended. Well, there were two. 1987, I was just new at MTV. And they said, hey, you're going to do our live coverage. I'm like, oh, that sounds cool.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And so they put me in my three foot hair literally on Times Square with one. one bodyguard, and the camera was up on one time. Oh, yeah. Well, there weren't, I mean, in 87, 87, 80, I'm not sure. It wasn't, you know, they weren't running around like, oh, ISIS might be getting you. No, people just showed up and they were hanging out and there weren't, you know, it was a big black dude? It was a white dude, white dude. But he had a big black gun, if that helped.
Starting point is 00:04:24 and you know and so I and they had the camera up on one time square and you couldn't really hear anything but that was one and but the real new year's eve party I think was 1990 no 89 I'm sorry and it was you didn't have a year 2000 party that's the big one 99 I was uh I was in I was back in Holland for that new years which was insane because the Dutch they just love their fireworks Even though it's outlawed in Amsterdam, everyone loves their fireworks. There's videos online of entire streets with burnt out cars. I'm not kidding. And, of course, this happened. A blaze so great, there was no saving the church tower. In the middle of the night, as Amsterdam's residents were ringing in the new year, a major fire broke out in the historic Vondelkirk church.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Firefighters tried to save the over 150-year-old strike. but they could not enter. The risk that the church would collapse was too great. As they doused it with water from hoses, authorities closed down the streets around the central Amsterdam monument. And local media said that nearby homes were evacuated because of the burning debris.
Starting point is 00:05:42 An alert was issued about heavy smoke, and officials declared a regional emergency. It is really is horrific. I've just been watching. This is the mayor. It's the mayor of Amsterdam. Almost violently large. The church is very close to many houses.
Starting point is 00:06:00 So apart from the loss of a magnificent monument, for all people living nearby, it's really scary. Built in 1872, the church is in the center of Amsterdam and just a short walk from the popular Van Gogh Museum. The cause of the fire is still unknown. As investigators looking to whether he used fireworks were involved or not. Or not. Fireworks or not. This is a travest- It wasn't raining there.
Starting point is 00:06:27 This is a travesty, though. This church, man, that's a beautiful church. It completely destroyed. Was. Was, yes. It looked a lot like the Notre Dame fire where the whole, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:37 the steeple, everything, the spire, I think you call it, completely on fire. And then the roof collapsing, it's bad. But I think that's very typical of Holland. You know, everyone's just so, what's the word I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:06:51 Not depressed, but they're just epithetic. They're like, they don't care. Like, life sucks. This is it. Russia's going to kill us. Whatever. We give up.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And I think that's also... Take our bikes. Yeah. Hey, Vladimir, take my bike. Yeah. And I think that's kind of what's happening with Gen Z in the Zoomer Wuffin. I've been feeling that they're also like, eh, you know, everything sucks. It's no good.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Who cares? Gen Zs are out in force, not being covered. I have no clue. I don't know what to do about it because of the lack of clips in Iran. Now, interesting, you bring that up. So, of course, we see what's happening in Iran and I can play it. But no, we don't see what's happening. You should tell people what's happening.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It's just not being talked about or discovered. I mean, there's a few bloggers covering it. I do have a, let's see, I have a. Yeah, I got a couple clips. So I'll tell you up front, right away, I'm like, oh, it's kicking off in Iran. So I go to YouTube and I look for Iran Gen Z. And there's hundreds, hundreds of videos in Farsi. And they all go like this.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Iran Gen Z protest live update. Farsi, Farsi, Gen Z, Farsi, Farsi, Farsi, Khamini, Farsi, Tehran University protest. And they're all from, you know, like these outfits like let me see, news nation, but it's not the news nation you think it is. I think they're pretty much all AI generated. It seems to me that whatever is happening, and I do have an interesting, interesting clip where that's brought up, it seems like the Gen Z-Opp is trying to take credit for it or try and move that in.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Hey, it's the Gen Zs that are doing this. but it's not working because there's just it's it's not being reported that way here's um let me see what is this one this one this is one thing i found in the yally ways of teheran's grand bazaar chance of don't be afraid don't be afraid we're all together and they're not afraid for four days a row what a nat pop oh no this thing is full of nat pops streets some clash with the riot police anger sparked by an economy in turmoil and soaring living costs. I should actually point out that the only clips I could get were from British outfits, including BBC. This is from Channel 4.
Starting point is 00:09:33 In the last year, Iran's currency has lost nearly half of its value against the US dollar. Inflation has seen food prices rise by 72%. According to one Tehran resident whose identity we are protecting, everyday items are becoming unaffordable. Families who once belong to the middle class are now worried about paying their rent. In the past, people worried about affording meat and fruit. Now they are struggling to buy basic items like rice and eggs. In my view, people are truly exhausted. They've reached their breaking point.
Starting point is 00:10:07 They no longer want this regime and a demanding change. The protests soon spread outside the capital, with similar scenes taking place in Isfahan, Shiraz in the South and Mashhad in the northeast. In the city of Baza, a group of people are seen trying to break into a government building. And no major crackdown from the government yet, Iran's leaders avoiding the heavy police response seen in previous protests. Instead, saying they're open to dialogue, offering to listen to the demands of protesters. The government will listen patiently, even if there are harsh voices, because we believe that our people are patient enough. The government's job is to hear the voices and help them reach a common understanding to solve the problem.
Starting point is 00:10:49 that exist in society. There's no calm outside universities. Students are now joining the demonstrations. So students are joining the demonstrations. I just don't think it's our classic Gen Z. Sciop, but what was interesting, the second part of this report... Well, by the way,
Starting point is 00:11:07 which may be confirmed by the fact that it's not getting any coverage whatsoever. Correct. Here is the Middle East director of Chatham House, who they bring in. Oh, there you go. MI6. Exactly. So let's hear what she has to say.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I don't think that the regime itself is in a moment of imminent danger, really because the Islamic Republic of Iran, as we have witnessed over many years of protests, is institutionalized and has a bureaucracy that is willing to remain united and push back against dissent in the country. But what the system is looking to avoid is a long, scale, protracted, standoff. Iran's leadership knows the quickest way to ease pressure is lifting U.S. sanctions. But would President Donald Trump this week threatening to, quote, knock the hell out of Iran if it rebuilt its missile program, the diplomatic mood is far from positive? All right, so we did get one little viral moments, just a very brief one which they're trying to push.
Starting point is 00:12:15 An image that quickly went viral in Iran. A man sits down in the middle of the street in silent protest. Facing him lines of Iranian security personnel on motorbikes. So like a Tiananmen Square type deal is what this guy's doing, you know, kneeling in the streets. You might as well do it that way, sure. And here's the BBC report. Protests are continuing for a third day in Iran against rising prices and an increase in the price of foreign currency. Students from several universities have joined the demonstrations, which were started on Sunday by shopkeepers and,
Starting point is 00:12:48 market stall holders. Tehran province has been the centre of the protest. Parts of Tehran markets are also closed. David Bamford reports. These are the largest demonstration. I love these Brits. Since the woman life freedom protest three years ago, sparked by the death of an Iranian woman, Maxa Amini, while in police custody. Today, students from the major universities in Tehran, including Sharif and Beheshti, have joined the protests. A strike continues in Tehran's Grand Bazaar and commercial districts, with merchants keeping shops closed. There's also fresh unrest in the central city of Isfahan, where students from the University of Technology have taken to the streets.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Ostensibly, these are protests about food price increases of up to 70% year-on-year. Sounds a bit like an Arab Spring thing. Oh, yeah, bread is expensive. Yeah, also, they got that angle, but they also have not mentioned, which a lot of these bloggers have talked about, that they ran out of water. They've been out of water for a couple months because of a drought and just mismanagement. Ostensibly, these are protests about food price increases of up to 70% year-on-year and soaring inflation. The security forces have deployed heavily, but videos show them pulling back amid the public anger.
Starting point is 00:14:08 State media say Iran's president, Mastr Pezchkian, urged his own government to listen to what he called the legitimate demands of the protest. and make reforms. Wait, wait, wait. I get the kick out of the guy supposedly running the country saying, the government should listen. He is the government, isn't he? No, I guess not.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So it's a fake. Yeah. State media say Iran's president, Masr al-Pezashkian urged his own government to listen to what he called the legitimate demands of the protesters and to make reforms. Some in the crowd can be heard
Starting point is 00:14:44 shouting political slogans, calling for the overthrow of the Islamic Republic. Slogans that can be heard include death to the dictator, targeting Supreme Leader Khamaniy, the real power in Iran. And this is the final battle, Pahlavi will return, a reference to the family of the ruling Shah of Iran ousted in the late 1970s. That's the kid in London, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah, there's a number of protests again. We don't know if this is AI or if it's real, but where there's big crowds chanting his name. Here's, I did get one U.S. report. This is CNN. Iran, back in the news for a couple of reasons. Its government said today it would seek a dialogue with protest leaders after demonstrations in Tehran and other cities over a surge in inflation.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Do you think this poses a danger to the government, then? I think Tehran, as we all know, it's a feocratic autocracy. And like a lot of autocracies, As I used to live in Africa. I used to say in Africa, when the elephants fight, the grass gets trampled. Oh, that's a new one. She had never heard that before.
Starting point is 00:15:53 This is the great philosopher they have on CNN. Say in Africa, when the elephants fight... What does Africa have to do with Iran? This is odd. As I used to say, I used to live in Africa. It is odd. It's a odd. When the elephants fight,
Starting point is 00:16:07 the grass gets trampled. And Iran, the grass is being trampled. And who is fighting? It's Tehran versus. the rest of the folks in the region, and the U.S. And they've been hit by inflation, they've been hit by... Sean McFaite. ...economic sanctions, all because Israel...
Starting point is 00:16:25 All because I ran... What? What? Truth just came out. Hold on a second. And they've been hit by inflation, they've been hit by all sorts of economic sanctions, all because Iran doesn't want... ...to give up its nuclear weapons program. Oh, really? That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Oh, that's what it. Oh, brother. This is CNN at its best. They have no water for three months, but it's because of the nukes, sure. And so this is always a threat to Tehran. But Tehran usually just squeezes down like autocracies and pressures them away, and that's probably what's going to happen again. But the other problem is that Iran has also declared war, basically, on Israel and others as we speak.
Starting point is 00:17:11 and we'll see where that goes. It's a tough, frightening talk from a volatile region. Frightening talk from a volatile region. You can't ignore the coincidence, of course, of Netanyahu showing up at Mar-a-Lago and telling Trump, hey, you know, they're thinking of moving their nukes. The whole thing, it just, it feels coordinated, but they don't have a message yet, or they didn't plan the message, or maybe, maybe it's actually. real. I think it might be.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It feels like it because no one is doing the messaging right. They've been doing, they've been having enough coordinated bull crap riots and color revolutions that somebody may have a clue and it figured it out. You just need one leader
Starting point is 00:17:58 and it's possible. And I told you, we talked months ago that that guy, the kid who's been in exile in London, he appears to be the one they want now. Or were they saying, let's go, Brandon? I'm not sure what they were young.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Could it be both? Yeah. It's hard to know. I got to call Lex. I got to ask him. Why is it hard to know? Because nobody's covering it. Where's the boots on the ground from the news media?
Starting point is 00:18:30 CNN has some guy giving us aphorisms from Africa, you know, sitting in the studio. Why don't you go out there and do some, put your feet on the ground and go float around and find out what's going on which brings media you're getting paid money to do that you have huge budgets which brings me to the new year's new year's day message from cbs evening news tony de koppel de kouple is that oh you you recorded it yes of course i this is unbelievable now this has to be barry weiss in the background i presume but it basically we've been screwing you over for 50 years with our CBS evening news. Yeah. You want to say so? Well, a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It might be just, it might be, uh, paramed. By the way, it, well, Barry Weiss's would be the representative. But Barry Weiss might have gone in there and pushed for something like this. And I think this may be a satire. Well, I, I mean, I thought it was a satire, but I looked at all. No, I think, no, not a, not a, not a, like a fake video that's turned into a satire but i'm saying literally by by the cupal or whatever his name is actually going over the top so far that it's like laughable so they're laughing on purpose they're laughing in the newsroom ha ha ha look at these suckers yeah we'll tell them i'm just considering it's well let's analyze because it's out of control it's so stupid to be to do to do something like
Starting point is 00:20:06 this well the curry devore at consulting group would have never advised this that's for sure. That's for sure. A lot has changed since the first person sat in this chair, but for me, the biggest difference is people do not trust us like they used to. And it's not just us. It's all of legacy
Starting point is 00:20:24 media. Yeah, for 18 years, dude. I get it because I've been hearing about it from just about everybody for more than 20 years as I've traveled America on this assignment or that. My mom's neighbors in West Virginia. I love where he starts right away. My mom doesn't like it. My mom's
Starting point is 00:20:41 neighbor mom complained to me okay for more than 20 years as i've traveled america on this assignment or that my mom's neighbors in west virginia my own neighbors in new york city thousands and thousands of conversations in between sometimes people want to talk to me about our coverage of napta or the iraq war huh what how old are those people hey man you know maybe some people should realize what we're listening to here i don't think we gave it enough background This is Tony DeCouple, the guy who's taking over CBS nightly news. Evening news. Evening news. Evening, evening. Yeah, well, he's taken over the news slot.
Starting point is 00:21:22 He's bumped out, you know, whoever was there before got bumped. Nora was there for a while. And this is kind of a pre-Mayacopa, apologizing for all the screw-ups they had in the past. I'm a new guy. We're going to do it differently, this kind of thing. And it's just awkward, but in case I wonder what we're listening to. Other times, it's all about Hillary Clinton's emails or Russiagate. Or more recently, COVID lockdowns, Hunter Biden's laptop, or the president's fitness for office.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I think they should literally do a story on each of these things, starting today, and give us the truth. That would be a good follow-up. Somehow I doubt that's in the works. No, I don't think so. The point is on too many stories, the press has missed the story. Yeah, missed the story like it was a scam, everything's fake and gay, and you guys are leading it. Because we've taken into account the perspective of advocates and not the average American. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:28 This is such an admission. We've taken the account of advocates. Or we've really poor form. Yeah, basically saying, you know, we've worked. for other people. Or we put too much weight in the analysis of academics or elites and not enough on you. Yes. And I know this because at certain points.
Starting point is 00:22:49 The plebs. I have been you. I have felt this way too. I am you. CBS News. I am you. I felt like what I was seeing. I wouldn't be surprised to see that as a catchphrase.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Well, we'll give it to them. CBS News. I, and that little I logo. I am you. And I know this because at certain points, I have been you. I have felt this way too. I felt like what I was seeing and hearing on the news didn't reflect what I was seeing and hearing in my own life and that the most urgent questions simply weren't being asked. So here's my promise to you today and every time you see me in this chair. I will be wearing pants. You come first, not advertisers, not politicians, not corporate interests. And yes, that does include the corporate owners of CBS.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah, oh, yeah, which is now Allison, yeah. I report for you, which means I tell you what I know, when I know it, and how I know it. Oh. And when I get it wrong, I know it in my knower. I'll tell you that, too. it also means I'm going to talk to everybody and hold everyone in public life to the very same standard
Starting point is 00:24:12 after all I became a journalist that he'll tell you everything he knows he's holding that he's holding them to account this guy by the way was on the morning this guy's on the morning show he was a morning guy and he was the dumbest of the group he was always saying stupid stuff asking dumb questions he's just
Starting point is 00:24:33 I don't want to just didn't mean the guy, but he's a dummy. That's good. The dummy's almost done. It also means I'm going to talk to everybody and hold everyone in public life to the very same standard. After all, I became a journalist to talk to people. Oh. I love talking to people about what works in this country, what doesn't. Is that why you become a journalist to talk to people?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I never heard that being the reason to become a journalist. Start a podcast. You become a journalist to document reality. Become a podcaster, man. You can talk to anybody. And not only what should change, but the good ideas that should never change. I think telling the truth is one of them. I'm Tony DeCopal, the anchor of the CBS Evening News. Hold me to it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 You bet. Hold me to it. CBS, hold me to it. Yeah, that's good. Well, in this honesty vein of our budget, It's so funny. Yeah, it's great. At first, I'm like, this is fake.
Starting point is 00:25:39 This has to be fake. This can't be real. And so you need, you've helped me to account, people. You've helped me to account. I have stolen valor on my heart. I feel horrible. No, it's the AI that stole the valor and you just stole from AI. Here is, so the clip of the day on the last episode, last year,
Starting point is 00:26:05 so it doesn't really counts last year. Avianas Verifakis was AI. And he discussed it recently on unheard. And it was rather an interesting two-clip conversation. I received a message, some WhatsApp message from an very esteemed colleague. Yes, the Curie DeVorek podcast, they said, hey, is this you? A person whose opinion I value a lot. Oh, yes, nice.
Starting point is 00:26:34 he was congratulating me over a YouTube video of mine and he had a link in there. So this was spot on, Jan. It's a really very good analysis. It wasn't the one you showed just now. So I clicked on the link to remind myself of what it is that I had said, which my colleague liked. And it was two minutes
Starting point is 00:26:50 into the video that I realized it wasn't me. That's, you know, two minutes is an eternity. So if the guy himself didn't realize it for two minutes, that's... Yeah, you can't take too much blame, even though... No, I rebuke, I rebuke and denounce and renounce the clip of the day.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Denounce and renounce. And listen to how we actually figured it out. When you have somebody saying things you never said, but which you could have said, there isn't why I caught onto this was because, you see this blue shirt? Well, I was wearing it in that video. But that video was set in my office in Athens. Here I'm talking to you from my island home, and this shirt has never left. way remind me to use that line today I'm talking to you from my island home I'm not in my
Starting point is 00:27:39 regular home my island home it was this juxtaposition of my blue shirt from one house to the other that alerted me to the fact that it wasn't me and you know then of course I started digging into it and it turns out that the words that you just heard I have never spoken but alas there are words that I could have spoken the analysis is not far off mind and there have been videos that I've watched of myself where I would articulate an argument in ways that I don't disagree with that
Starting point is 00:28:11 maybe I would have said it but then and this is the most insidious part I'm sure you can understand it I'm sure our audience can understand it then suddenly a sentence would be inserted in my sylilogy that I would never have said and that is where
Starting point is 00:28:27 the defamatory part starts that's when I blew my top and I started writing to Google and to meta and Instagram and so on. I blew my top. He blew his top. I blew my top. Top, top, top.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But now, the funnier part of the story is when he tried to do something about it. Which brings us to the whole monetization system that Big Tech has imposed upon an unsuspecting world. Because, you know, as you can imagine, the first thing I did when I came across these fake videos was to write to Google and to meta and to these people. It took days before I got a response. The response was, interestingly, of course, AI generated. Then I insisted on talking to a real person. I don't know whether I succeeded. Maybe they referred me to a more realistic version of AI
Starting point is 00:29:15 who wrote a more human-like letter. In the end, it took eight days, nine days, after my first form that I filled and I submitted, illustrating and demonstrating and proving that these are deep fake versions of me. And they brought one channel down. And then within seconds, the same material re-emerged in a different channel under a different name, but the same videos. And I realized within two weeks that this was a losing game. He's given up.
Starting point is 00:29:49 He's just giving up on it. You can't even talk to a real person at Google about this. It's amazing. It's an amazing time we live in. I'll tell you that. Yeah, this is a problem. Yeah. I think this is more of a problem that we like to think.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Oh, it's a huge problem. But yeah, it's the model, obviously. It's the monetization model. I expect that there will be moments over the next year where we'll be suckered into many times. More than once. Yeah, I'm sure it will happen. Playing a clip from someone who is, it's a perfect clip.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. And it's not done in such a way that it gives itself away as being a fake. And it'll be a good clip, but it'll be fake. It won't be the guy. I mean, this was what happened. It's unfortunate, but it's just going to happen. The funny thing is, is that the clip that we played was him talking about Russia's retaliation against the freezing, the permanent freezing of the Russian assets at Euroclear and other banks in the East.
Starting point is 00:31:01 EU. And so I went and said, well, did this actually happen or not? Was this just a report that they used him? And it turns out, yes, Russia nationalized a whole bunch of EU companies, but they did it a year ago, which we didn't even hear about, including Carlsberg, Donona, Fordham, Uniper. I mean, so, and totaling even more than the fake AI clip said, this all happened. Yeah, this seems to me to be the Russians. They can do AI as well as, I mean, they can use the same tools we have.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And they have smart people. And they have to be beside Putin's people have to be beside themselves with, how come this, we're going to, okay, you. guys going to do that we're going to do this and nobody reports it and so they say what nobody's reporting on what we're up to we're not doing it right we'll do this then we'll do that then we'll do this what are we going to do to get and so after a year they say what can we do to get this information out there says nobody will pick it up let's do a fake video with this guy because they love him and just put it out there and just soak the market with it and let the virals take it over
Starting point is 00:32:26 and that's what they did. I'm absolutely convinced that this is Russian intelligence. And make sure those dopes at the No Agenda Show see it. Send a copy to Curry, that guy. He's a sucker for the Ruskis. Yeah. Which kind of brings into question this whole drone attack on Putin's home. Yeah, I have a couple.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I have a clip on that, but I have an intro overview. clip of that. Do you want to do? Yeah, yeah. I'll play that and then you do whatever you want. From a snowy Moscow this morning, the Kremlin keeping up its latest flurry of accusations against Ukraine. The Kiv was trying to undermine progress towards a peace deal by launching a drone attack on one of Vladimir Putin's residences. This is Channel 4 again. Ukraine has ridiculed the claims, but Russia nonetheless promising to toughen its stance. That military today releasing images of what it said were its Oreshnik, hypersonic, nuclear-capable missiles being deployed in Belarus. Russia claims Ukraine launched 91 drones in a mass attack on the Putin residents.
Starting point is 00:33:32 They would have had to fly more than 400 miles through heavily defended airspace on route to the target, a sprawling complex on the northeastern shore of Lake Valdai. It's self-guarded by 12 nearby air defense batteries. There are no local reports of any explosions. I learned about it from President Putin today. I was very angry about it. President Trump meeting the Israeli Prime Minister yesterday challenged on whether U.S. intelligence had any evidence. it had happened. You're saying maybe the attack didn't take place it's possible, too, I guess, but President Putin told me this morning it did. As for the timing of this, I mean, politically, it wouldn't be a very judicious moment to strike in this way. No, I mean, for all sorts of reasons.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Firstly, there is... This is some dude from the University College of London. An informal etiquette, shall you say, that you don't go after the other side's leaders or else you face that same threat yourself. Secondly, it would risk doing away with all of the goodwill generated by Zelensky's trip to Florida. And thirdly, the problem is Zovansky did in his Christmas address pretty openly wish for Putin's death. And so in that context, again, this would look a little bit too on the nose. So let's look at the three options.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Well, let's listen to it. By the way, that was the guy with the British accent doing his reporting. Yes. Can I say what I was going to say? So here are the options. It's what the pause was. That was my pregnant pause. Yeah. Which, by the way, does cut out some Bluetooth headsets. I'm sorry. When we have a pause, there's still some Bluetooth headsets out there that see zero bytes and think, oh, the podcast's over and it disconnects. What? Yeah. Yeah. This is a recurring problem. That's idiotic. Well, because of the noise gate, there is zero. I mean, it's not like a little bit. It's just there's zero noise. And the Bluetooth thinks, oh, it's quiet. So I'll just discus.
Starting point is 00:35:24 connect. Oh, heaven forbid that we actually have a, have a, have a, uh, a production that produces quiet that is quiet, quiet time, as opposed to a buzzing sound or whatever. The rest of well, the solution, of course, is just to listen to us at 10x and you'll be fine. So the options are, one, Ukraine did this, uh, B, it was a false flag by Russia or C, which I, which I I think is more likely is that something, maybe not 91 drones, but something was lit up by the North Sea Nexus to... Which is where my clips go. To interrupt the negotiations between...
Starting point is 00:36:09 Which is where my clips go. Well, I heard you, so I'm ready for your clips. Well, first, just as the intro clip, to counter your intro clip, I have one from NTD that we can play before I play the clips of the Nexus clips. Okay. Two days after an alleged attack on Russian President Vladimir Putin, Moscow is now releasing video footage for the first time. According to the Kremlin, Ukraine launched over 90 drones at Putin's residence on Monday overnight.
Starting point is 00:36:37 After international calls for evidence to back up the claim, Russia released this video on Wednesday, showing one drone in a dark forest. Neither the location nor the date of the video could be independently verified. Zelensky denies the claims of an attack, saying Russia is lying to undermine the police. peace process, which had been developing fast before the alleged attack. Also on Wednesday, President Trump shared a New York Post article, which states that the drone strike likely never happened.
Starting point is 00:37:05 A day earlier, the U.S. Ambassador to NATO also cast doubt on the accusation that Ukraine attacked Putin's residents. He said it's unclear whether the attack actually happened. The ambassador added that he wants to see U.S. intelligence on the incident. Meanwhile, the U.S. continues working on a possible peace deal. speaking with Ukrainian and European officials. Special envoy Steve Whitkoff says they, quote, focused on how to move the discussions forward in a practical way on behalf of President Trump's peace process. Okay. Well, I think option C is still the most viable that the North Sea Nexus was fiddling about to disrupt these peace talks because they are warmongers and they want war.
Starting point is 00:37:50 They just want they are. They just want war. They want their children to die. Yes, they do. Like, oh, you're going to go into the army now, son. Yeah. They've heard children to die. Hey, child sacrifice is powerful aphrodisiac. So, yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Well, here is the, this is a woman that showed up on,
Starting point is 00:38:14 runs out of this Prometheus project. Oh, hold on, hold on. You know that I introduced them to the podcast three months ago. Yeah. Okay. Well, here she is giving her spiel, which makes, by the way, what you just said makes it sound as well you stole the nexus idea from them. No, I, let me just remind you. I played the clips from Ton Luongo, from gold goats and guns.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I played three clips from the LaRouche ladies, which is their former. Oh, the Leroux ladies. And I said, the only thing they're doing wrong is they're calling it the Dutch Anglo, the Dutch Anglo, system. And that's when on that very podcast, I said, I'm calling it the North Sea Nexus. So I give them full credit, full credit. This woman who's another one, who I think is a La Rushi, because she's Uh, yeah. Or Susan Kokinda. I'm sorry. The other one's Barbara. I don't know. One of the Kikindas. They're both LaRouche ladies. Okay. They were Lur, maybe you should explain who LaRouche was. Linden Lerush. You said it like, Mark Levine. Slowly I turn. Mark Levine. Mark
Starting point is 00:39:23 Lyndon LaRouche. Linda LaRouche was this guy with this unbelievably affectatious delivery of, I wish I could do his voice. But he was a, he is in a conspiracy category all his own. Oh, this is before I was in the game. He's very singular. And people should look him up and try and follow it because it's like a very compelling guy. It's like David Ike without the reptilian stuff. But it's close to it.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But it's this complex system, how the world works. That is, it makes some sort of sense once they hypnotize you into believing it. This woman has the, she has those elements, but at the same time, this is closer to what your thesis is based on, except she kind of takes the nexus and instead of making it a nexus is mostly just the british monarch right and um but it falls in line with with with what we're thinking as opposed to what the mainstream podcasting verse is thinking because it's all israel israel israel israel israel israel just asking questions so it's so this is so this is so So it's fun.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And I have a bunch of these. One of them is long, but the rest of them are pretty short of her discussing this. And it brings, it shows that somebody sent this clip earlier this morning, even though I picked it up yesterday. But they sent it to say, this is proof. That Adam is right about the next. It's no proof. There's no proof in here. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It's proof. I was right. There's no proof. This is all a thesis. And it's stretched a bit because there's some, moments where she's adding to it. But the fact that she's got clips from the, from the House of Lords and they're all concerned about it. Oh, I've seen this one. Yeah, this is good. This is good. This is good. And the House of Lords is all bent out.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I'm sorry, we play the clip, but so I'll stop talking. Yes, this is indeed Susan Kokinda. The National Security Strategy is a mortal threat to the British Empire, and we're going to activate all of our networks in the United States to try and stop it. They're saying this because they're terrified. But if you listen to the noise in Washington and in social media, you'd think Trump was the one losing control. Because in the last few days after the president met with Zelensky and Netanyahu, the political world has exploded. Now, if you listen to Mike Pompeo and the neocons, Trump sold out to Putin. If you listen to the anti-war crowd, he sold out to Zelensky. And what about Israel? If you follow the Maga Wars or March
Starting point is 00:42:16 Reader Green. You're being told he's surrendered to Israel, or can we just do America? They're all wrong. What you just witnessed wasn't a sellout. It was a takeover. It was the first live-fire test of the very strategy the British are trying to kill. Trump hasn't surrendered. He signed the Do Not Resuscitate order for the British post-war world. And that's why they're not celebrating in London or Brussels. I like the writing. The writing is good, you know, the do not resuscitate this is that's that's that's mature writing they realized the special relationship their ability to manipulate american power for their wars is over as long as donald trump is calling the shots i'm susan kokinda i became politically active way back in 1968 well campaigning
Starting point is 00:43:05 for robert how old is she she's pretty much she looks she looks like my age yeah she's a septuagenarian for sure she has a she's got to be and she and i was the same as her i'm i can parallel it because i was a kennedy guy and you were you were a democrat you were liberal i was a democrat i was all for robert f kennedy and then i went to then i was for george mcgoverned and that who is the worst candidate they've ever featured he went to berkeley to give a lecture i went to and talk to him i got to meet him and did you get his autograph the nicest guy in the world what did you get his autograph? You know, I'm looking back on my life. Oh, wow. I'm looking back on my life and thinking of the autographs I missed. I could have retired. I could have retired on Stan Lee
Starting point is 00:43:59 alone. Stan Lee shows up at Tech TV and he, I'm chatting with him. Who is Stan Lee? No one knows who Stan Lee is. Stan Lee is a Marvel Comics guy. Everybody, boomers. Everybody, everybody, knows who Stanley is. And so I found it brought 10 comic books and had him signed 10 comic books, Stanley, Stanley. There was auctioning those for $10,000 a pop. Wow, you'd retire for a whole year. Well, I could retire for a few months, but I'm just saying that's just one of many guys I dropped the ball on getting an autograph from.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And you are the proto-archivist and yet you drop the ball on the autographs. That's interesting. it's pathetic. I became politically active way back in 1968, campaigning for Robert F. Kennedy senior in California when he was assassinated. For decades, my colleagues at Promethean Action and I have been in the real fight. So take it from a political veteran. If enough of you understand what Trump is doing, we're going to celebrate the 250th anniversary of our independence in victory in 2026 by finishing the job. So I just as a little aside about the Promethean action,
Starting point is 00:45:17 ever since I introduced it to the show and we started with the North Sea Nexus, at least twice sometimes five times a day, someone will send me a link. They do three videos a week. Someone will send me a link and say, here's proof. You were right. This is it.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So what I'm happy about is that they're getting traction because they are on this day and night. They do a live stream for like five hours on Thursdays. Good. Yeah. So I'm happy that they're getting traction with this. Yeah, we got other things to do. Like Iran. Whatever. Like it's like, there's things. There's other things besides this, but this is important. It's all connected. It's all connected. It might be connected, but it's like there's a lot of work to do besides just hard, we got TikTok videos to play. Come on. And I do have a couple today. I know you do. I know you do. And they're gems. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:46:08 let's continue with the North Sea Nexus. The 2025 National Security Strategy, and this week, Trump used it to clear the board. So let's start with Russia and Ukraine. The British and the EU sent Zelensky to Mar-a-Laga with a mission. Did you basically cut up the whole 15-minute report? No, the fact, they didn't even start at the beginning. Oh, okay. Demand- Open-ended-S...
Starting point is 00:46:30 Because the problem is she, she, her problem is a couple of things. The 15-minute, I got about, I got a lot of minutes, but not the whole thing. The problem is she repeats herself two or three times. And she also, then she goes into a sales pitch for the Promethe or whatever the hell is called. Promethean action and their book, How the British Kill Our Presidents. Yeah, and she goes on and on and on. So I cut all that stuff out. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:54 All right. So it's a stripped down version of the LaRouche ladies. Nice. Exactly. Demand open-ended security guarantees, NATO membership, and keep the war machine running. They're operating off of Winston Churchill's post-war playbook. By the way, that's something you never want. want to see. What? Strip down Leruthj, ladies. They're operating off of Winston Churchill.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I bet she was really cute in her 20s and 30s. I'm going to look her up. Post-war playbook that says Russia is our permanent enemy. But Trump is operating off his new national security strategy. And here's what it says. It is a core interest of the United States to negotiate an expeditious cessation of hostilities in Ukraine. to prevent unintended escalation or expansion of the war and reestablish strategic stability with Russia. And then a little later, and to end the perception and prevent the reality of NATO as a perpetually expanding alliance. That is what is driving Trump's negotiating position with Zelensky. So how did the empire respond to Trump's refusal to bend? Immediately after
Starting point is 00:48:04 the meeting, drones attack President Putin's residence in Valdai. The Russians were furious, but they called it a slap in the face to Trump. Now, ask yourself, was this really just Zelensky going rogue, or was the British hand at work? We're not alone in pointing out that British intelligence plays a bigger role in guiding these drone systems than the Ukrainians do. As the conservative Treehouse blog put it in their coverage of the attack, I suspect the British did it. So this wasn't a military strike. It was a sabotage operation designed to blow up the Trump-Pooten Peace Channel. But Trump and Putin refused to take the bait.
Starting point is 00:48:40 They aren't pawns anymore. Here's Trump's response. President Putin told me about it. Early in the morning, he said he was attacked. It's no good. It's no good. Don't forget, you know, the Tomahawks, I stopped the Tomahawks. I didn't want that.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Because we're talking about, you know, it's a delicate period of time. This is not the right time. It's one thing to be offensive because they're offensive. It's another thing to attack his house. It's not the right time to do it. any of that now is not the time to attack his house that's later not right now so who is he talking to the president is always talking to somebody so was he in this case that was just a one of those mini press conferences i know but was he hypothetically speaking to ukraine or is oh
Starting point is 00:49:28 is there an undertone there you know what i mean i think he was hypothetically speaking to the nexus That's what I would presume, yes. He's saying, look, we figured out what you're up to. No, this is not the time. No, stop it. Yeah, this is an issue. Okay, onward. And Putin's spokesman Ushikov reported that in that conversation with Trump,
Starting point is 00:49:55 Vladimir Putin emphasized that the Russian side intends to continue close and productive work with its U.S. partners in searching for ways to achieve people. Now, watch how this same grand strategy explains the panic over the Netanyahu meeting. For decades, the British have used the Mideast as the cockpit of war. They've created Zionism and Islamic fundamentalism to play the superpowers and victim nations against each other. Yep. The new national security strategy flips the road over. It accurately states that for a half century, American foreign policy prioritized the mid-east,
Starting point is 00:50:34 above all other regions because it was a major energy supplier and it described it as a prime theater of superpower competition. But the NSS goes on to say those dynamics no longer hold because superpower competition has given way to great power jockeying in which the United States retains the most enviable position reinforced by President Trump's successful revitalization of our alliances in the Gulf with other Arab partners and with Israel. Catch that?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Revitalization of our alliances in the Gulf with other Arab partners and with Israel. Not Israel first, despite what Tucker Carlson thinks. Yeah. Trump is saying, we're not playing your games any longer. And he is deliberately and quietly removing countries from the grip of the geopoliticians and treating them as independent nations with common interests with the United States, not as pawns or gas stations or triggers for religious prophecy. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I mean, I can't argue that. That is what I see happening, along with the Corps Five. Yeah, the Corps Five. That would be the end point. Yes. So, okay, I think we're on a clip four. So the British Empire isn't going to go down without a fight. On December 11th, not too long after Trump released his.
Starting point is 00:52:02 National Security Strategy. The British House of Lords was already. They held a pearl clutching session about the NSS and what they had to do about it. I thought, by the way, just in advance, I thought there was this kind of weak after the setup. I'm like, uh, okay, maybe. Yeah, no, this is where she has, this is weak. There's two clips here.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And there are both of them. You have to read a lot into it. But then again, if you look at it from the perspective of British, of the British, you know, they understate so much that it's, I mean, as a policy, as a way of communicating. Fair point. That is quite likely they were sending a lot more than we can understand. First, Lord Beamish happily reported that the U.S. Congress doesn't agree with Trump and his national security strategy.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Last week, the U.S. Congress on a bipartisan basis passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed by the president on Thursday night. That act gives a commission. to US troops in Europe, also highlights that it sees Russia as a threat to Europe to the United States, and also gives a commitment to future US commitment to providing the senior military figure for Secure, the leader of the commander of NATO. Does my honourable friend, my noble friend agree that we should be looking at actions rather than some of the wild statements come from the White House?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Then Lord Lancaster reported that he had just been in the U.S. where he discussed the problem of the national security strategy with members of the U.S. Congress. I was in Washington, D.C. last week with other members of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly. And when the national security strategy was discussed with our fellow elected members in the U.S., their message was clear that NSS.s come and go. Sometimes they're implemented and sometimes they don't. but we should judge by what Congress passes, and the National Defense Appropriation Act last week delivered an extra $8 billion to European defense and put a floor of some 76,000 troops, U.S. troops in Europe. Did you hear that? National security strategies come and go. Does that remind you of what we reported last week, how outlets of empire like Chatham House and the Council on Foreign Relations,
Starting point is 00:54:25 want to outlast the president? Yeah, I've been noticing this, too, this idea of outlasting the president. Yes, I mean, even some Republicans are kind of letting that shine through. Schumer brings it up, too. Schumer was out of them. It's only three more years. Yeah, three more years. We're good.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Yeah, we can put three more years up. But it also shows you that who's really running shows is the military industrial complex. You know, the whole NDAA was. at least $150 billion more than Trump even wanted with his big, beautiful battleships. Where'd that come from? From Congress. Yeah, the battleship.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. Which is up were we on? I think five, yes. Oh, man, good. We're getting there. All right. How they're maintaining their Trojan horses in the Congress and the rest of the political landscape,
Starting point is 00:55:22 the rhinos, the never Trumpers like Mike Pence and the Coke interests. So while too many in the MAGA base are caught up. She, in a previous episode, she mentioned that Chatham House has put all of their eggs in the Mike Pence basket. And that they're pushing that Chatham House, so read the British intelligence community, are pushing for Pence to run in 2028. Yeah, I'm on their mailing list.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I get a lot of good stuff from them. In the fabricated faction fights and secondary issues, or frankly, are acting like five-year-olds demanding headline-grabbing indictments right now. Donald Trump is dismantling a strategic architecture that has been in place since 1945, an architecture that's used the United States as the dumb giant in the British Empire's globalist schemes, and the British know it. But even bigger than Trump's strategic revolution is the economic revolution. Because that's what this is really all about.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Go back to the end of World War II and the summit in Casablanca, where Franklin Roosevelt said to Winston Churchill, Winston, we didn't fight that war to reestablish British 18th century methods. And Churchill countered and said, what do you mean by that? And FDR said, a system that takes more out of a country than it puts back in. Well, Roosevelt died before the war ended. And the result was the ultimate triumph of British 18th century methods, or a system. which takes more out than it puts in. Look at what has happened to the United States. We used to have a middle and working class based on a robust manufacturing sector and a tradition of family farms. And here's what's happened since the end of World War II. In 1950, 31% of the U.S. population was engaged in manufacturing. Today, it's only 8%. And if you add other goods producing sectors like agriculture and mining and transportation,
Starting point is 00:57:25 We used to have 55% engaged in productive activity. Today, it is less than 20. Our good paying jobs, our industry, our infrastructure, our family farms. They disappeared along with the middle class. Okay, Captain Obvious, got it. I forget. I didn't realize, the one thing I learned in this all these clips is this meeting in Casablanca where Roosevelt called out Churchill and then
Starting point is 00:57:55 died, so they didn't go anything. But, okay, so this wraps it up a little bit. Our economic sovereignty was stripped by British 18th century methods of financialization and free trade. In exchange, we imported everything. Food, cheap crap, and our trade deficit exploded. In other words, more was taken out than was put back in. Donald Trump is reversing that. That's why tariffs are such a powerful weapon and are so hated by the global elites. And they're working. We're rebuilding our manufacturing base and our economic independence. In November alone, ground was broken on 136 new factories, 78 processing plants.
Starting point is 00:58:43 This is where you're supposed to say. What about the Ohio plant? What about the Ohio Foxcon plant? That's the one. No, it's not, no, no, the Foxcom plant was in Minnesota. Minnesota, yeah, whatever. Yeah, I don't remember where it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah. Yeah. So do you think that this is true? Over 100 factories? I don't know. I would like see some evidence of it. It was broken on 136 new factories, 78 processing plants, and 199 new warehouses.
Starting point is 00:59:15 But even more important than physical growth is the reawakening of a productive spirit within the population. and especially among young people. Look at this headline. Look at the response of young people in Blue Massachusetts to the opportunity of getting vocational training and having a productive job rather than a dead-end liberal arts degree with tons of debt. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And even more important than that is the promise of the future of going beyond where we were at the end of World War II before we surrendered to British 18th century methods. You know, this, so a couple things. And I don't think we ever should play a full Promethean action report again. We don't have to. That was pretty long. You heard that summary one that was quite good.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah, it was pretty good. Just for the, because we're trying to figure out some things like, you know, who does Nick Fuentes work for if he works for anybody? He is, without a doubt, the voice of a generation of the Zoomer Waffen. But I was just thinking, you know, because there's all, because someone sent me a link and said, you need to watch the hold Nick Fuentes. You need, you know, you can't be our uncle.
Starting point is 01:00:30 If you don't know what's going on. So I watched the whole, it was actually five hours of which two hours was live. You have to be careful which one you pick. Well, it doesn't matter. It was five hours of pre-roll and pre-show. Oh, no, no. It was always. It was good.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Well, if you get away from the pre-roll, I loved watching the pre-roll stuff. There's two hours of pre-roll. I was sick, so, but just sat on the couch and watched the pre-roll. You were sick. That's not going to make you healthy. And then I watched his full show. And, you know, he's hitting all the hot buttons.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Like, there's no jobs. We can't find anyone to have sex with. You know, everything's falling apart. Everything's faking gay. You know, I'm just, when I say fake and gay, that's G-H-E-Y, just all of this stuff. And he, he, in good, uh, talk show format and he has so much of, I really feel some limb ball in there. He's got a, he's, you're right. He's very, very good. He could also, he could be a preacher almost. And, but there's never any solutions. It's all just everything's no good. And then it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:40 and he kind of slips in. It's, you know, it's the black people. It's the Jews. It's the women. That's, that's kind of how it, how it flows. But it was interesting. I thought, you know, let me just make a list between boomers and zoomers for a moment. Now, I'm a boomer adjacent, but in this case, I'll just be boomer slash Gen X. So, you know, well, we've got climate change and this is also horrible. When I was a kid, we had the ozone layer, an acid rain. We were going to burn up. Acid rain was my favorite.
Starting point is 01:02:16 The drug crisis. There's always zone. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The drug crisis. You know, you die from a pill on Snapchat. Bro, we had, we had crack for the first time. You have no idea what the streets look like with crack. It was bad. Algorithms and all this horrible internet, you know, the media panic.
Starting point is 01:02:40 We had satanic panic. We were all going to die. The backmasking. The Satanists were everywhere. the Luciferian Society. We had Tipper Gore telling us we couldn't listen to music. Tipper Gore. Yeah, you know, so the Zoomers.
Starting point is 01:02:57 They had ratings on the music albums. Yeah, yeah. Zoomers, you know, we don't, there's no company we could be loyal to. We have to have side hustles. Dude, we had greed is good and yuppies. And you had to work 80 hours and do Coke just to keep up with it. I love the yuppies. The yuppies.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Oh, there's war everywhere. In 1980, we all had to actually register for the draft because we had conflicts in Lebanon, Granada, Central America, you know, proxy wars. So does it sound familiar? Campus protests. Oh, yes, it's pro-pal. That's new? No, no, that's novel.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Campus protests are brand new. We've never had them before. We had South Africa. We had, you know, divests from South Africa. I'm not going to play Sun City. We had entire bands putting together benefit records. ChatGPT is going to take your job? The actual job started to go away in America with robots,
Starting point is 01:04:07 with robotics for car companies. We went through all this. You know, oh, well, you know, we're not going to have social. Social Security, Social Security, we got taken off pensions and here's your 401k. Good luck. It's your problem now. And consumer debt, we literally were given credit cards. Hey, have fun.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It's going to be great. We got screwed with all that. And everyone's all like, you know, true crime. If kids are getting killed, you know. We got to look, analyze this on the podcast. We know what we had? We had the same thing. Only we had milk cartons.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And we looked at all the milk cartons with the kids on the milk cartons. It's always the same. It just has a different name. The only thing we didn't have was parents who would let us live rent free at home until we were 30. That's what we didn't have. So, spare me. And John, you're half a generation older than me, I think you can come up with examples exactly the same.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I didn't even bring in. I can go back to Hughack and the riots back in the day. Hughack? Yeah, Hughack. The House on American Activities committees, riots. So, in the 50s. And so, yeah, yeah, the problem. The thing is, of course, is that it just, nothing's changed that much.
Starting point is 01:05:39 No. It's a cycle and it's just going, oh, round and round and around. Only this time, it's a little different. We have podcasters, and they come up with all kinds of connections once October 7th happened. And then we got the punk rock podcasters. And he was already doing it, you know, and in a way, Kanye, you know, people just come out and say, hey, man, it's the Jews. And it's so interesting to deconstruct how that all fits together because Epstein is a big part of it because of course the Jews Israel has Mossad and and the Epstein and its
Starting point is 01:06:21 pedophilia and therefore immediately all of our Congress is being blackmailed blackmail blackmailed now so so they have to vote whatever APEC tells them to and and it's and of course there was no blackmailing going on during the Edgar Hoover era of the FBI nothing was going on FBI was just a blackmailing operation. And, and, you know, so you, you have this, you know, then there's the Christian Zionism angle. So, of course, you get Tucker hounding Ted Cruz, who's an idiot, said, well, my Bible tells me, I need to bless Israel.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You know, and then Tucker, of course, convolutes that to, oh, you mean the government of Israel? So all of all, it's, and it's, and, you know, I think there's a movement afoot. you can kind of see it with all these podcasters, young podcasters moving towards Catholicism and then there's all kinds of theories
Starting point is 01:07:21 but basically in replacement theology the Jews don't matter anymore so anyone who is still for quote unquote Israel and that's a big question is what is that obviously is in the bag for Israel and that's where all of this kind of
Starting point is 01:07:38 comes from and then you can just easily say well, you're a shill for Israel. You're taking shekels. But the thing that really got me, and I picked up this clip from Candice Owens and she was on the Theo Vaughn show, and this is a perfect mangelman-type experiment, man-galment amnesia.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You know, so when someone says something and you know it's demonstrably wrong, how can you believe anything they say? And I understand, and the only one who's pretty good at it is Nick Fuentes, but everybody else, you know, they just throw stuff out there and, you know, when you're putting together a theory and you pull in historical events and, you know, oh, well, this happened, that happened, and therefore the Jews. But she went really awry. I don't even know how old this interview is.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Doesn't seem like it's too old. But here she's talking about APEC. And I know I sound like a broken record on this one because I remain that it's being funded by the military. military industrial complex through the American-Israeli education foundation. That's where you see Raytheon and Boeing and all that big money going in. But she pulled out a couple of really interesting lies or untruths or just mistakes that she absolutely presents as fact, and has it fact-checked in real time with Wikipedia. Israel is actually the exception.
Starting point is 01:09:08 they are the only country that's allowed to lobby Americans. Like everyone else has to register as a foreign agent under FARA. Like with APEC or whatever? Yeah, so APEC, the backstory, by the way, before JFK got shot, he was fighting APEC. They were previously called, I'm blanking on this. It was, you can look it up. And he was literally saying you have to register under the Foreign Act. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:09:32 1,000% sure, and you should look it up. 1,000%. So she says Foreign Act, but what she's talking about, is the Foreign Agent Registration Act, which Manafort, Manafort, Trump's guy went to jail for because he wasn't registered as a foreign lobby. So if you are being paid by a foreign government, you have to, it's not a big deal. You just register and then you can give money to campaigns, et cetera, but then it has to be clear. It's coming from Israel.
Starting point is 01:10:02 So she's a thousand percent sure that this is the only group of its kind that doesn't have, to register for some mysterious reason. Fact check that live. Let's fact check. He was fighting with what is today known as APAC. Ah, as was renamed AZCPA. I don't know what that stood for it. In 1959, AZCPA was renamed AAC, was renamed APEC
Starting point is 01:10:24 and American Israel Public Affairs Committee reflecting a broader membership and mission. Yeah, so JFK told them that they had to register under FARA. And so American Zionist Council, that's exactly what it was called. In 1962, President, look at the last paragraph. In 1962,
Starting point is 01:10:41 President John F. Kennedy and his brother Bobby as a U.S. Attorney General forced the AZC to register as a foreign agent. In doing so, they were barred from making monetary contributions to U.S. officials. Who was barred? AZC. Yeah, so APEC, for lack of a better term. They were called AZC back then.
Starting point is 01:10:56 But continue to send out newsletters and hold events with a nonprofit tax exemption. And then what happened was he was shot. Okay. So, let's just understand what Candace is saying, she's saying because John F. Kennedy wanted the American Zionist counsel to register under Farah. They killed him. So they are the only, the reason
Starting point is 01:11:21 I'm bringing this up is not to further conspiracy theories. They're the only country that's allowed to lobby Americans that do not, are not registered to the Farah Act. But for whatever reason, Israel is an exception to this. And the reason is because JFK got shot. Otherwise, they would have been under this. So that is the reason that they're allowed to do this. Does that sound true to you? Well, I'm not sure why you're playing this. Didn't you do this exact same presentation on your podcast with Jimmy? I'm playing a piece of it.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I'm not doing the full thing. I just want to do the Candace Owens bit because this isn't... I mean, don't you ever talk about stuff you talked about on Horowitz? No. Yes, you do. I ask you all the time. No, only because you ask me. I refuse to bring it into the show voluntarily.
Starting point is 01:12:06 But this is... But I just... Not condemning you for that, but I don't understand, I mean, we know Candace is nuts, and I don't, I'm not sure what the point of this is. I mean, I understand what you're saying, and it is idiotic, but I didn't get it much, I didn't get much out of it when you did it with Jimmy. I'm not sure what your point is. My point. That Candace is nuts and she's crazy, and I think we've gotten that part. I'm, I'm, if you, is a, uh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:37 This is an interesting question. If you don't see the continuous, it's the Jews thing, continuous, that all of this is the Jews. You didn't hear what Kokinda just said? She just said. In Maga, it's Israel. It's the Jews.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah, but I think that she made that point, and we've made the point before. Okay. So I'm not sure why we're making it again. I'm fine. I'm fine. You continue whatever you want to do. People can go listen to my podcast with Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Go ahead. It was more complete. I was only making one point about APEC. That's all I wanted to do. It's fine. Yeah, but you've made that point before. You said so at the beginning. No, I've never, I've made this point.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I've beaten it to death. I've never made this point. Which is that they are not the only country that has this kind of lobbying organization. That was the only point I wanted to make. And I was almost there. But it's okay. Well, you don't have to get. Huffy about it. It's just that I've heard this
Starting point is 01:13:39 already. You've not heard this on this show. You have not heard this on this show. Well, I didn't know you're going to start recycling stuff that you do on Pastor Jimmy's show. Okay. Fine, John. Whatever. I'm fine. People can go listen to that. I was just trying to bring in something that I thought was
Starting point is 01:14:01 relevant. But I'm sorry. I're so bored after I listened to you cut up a whole 60. minute piece into six clips that anyone could just go watch well then what's the difference in that and what you're doing here nothing but I didn't say anything about you yeah you did I just let it roll no at the very end you made the point you said
Starting point is 01:14:25 specifically just to be honest about it you said we're not playing any more clips from these people as though the clip that we play were bad it's obvious that you are working for Israel and you don't want me to expose what's going on. I'm not working for Israel. There's no chance of that. I'm working for the Nexus.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I'm working for the United Kingdom. You're my handler. Everyone knows it now. By the way, I'm... Somebody needs to be doing it. I'm surprised you didn't bring in the clip where they talked about my Uncle Don. What?
Starting point is 01:14:58 Yeah. Oh, you missed that one. Who is this? Kokinda. I don't, I didn't bring, I didn't hear that. Oh, yeah. Well, it wasn't in that one episode. Oh, I don't listen to her.
Starting point is 01:15:14 No, okay. Anyway, move on. What did they say? What did they say about your uncle Donne? Move on to a different topic. No, wait a minute. Now I need to know. No, I didn't bring the clip because I didn't want to bore you about my uncle.
Starting point is 01:15:24 You can just tell me what it was. It was, it's too complicated. You have to listen to it. you can summarize it it goes back to epstein and epstein um so the original money laundering for guns was run out of uh vice then vice president george herbert walker bush's office which was overseen by uncle don That's what we know is Iran-Contra. Now, he was never, he was accused of doing things, but they never were able to prove it, and there were Senate hearings, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:16:10 But what happened is there was a continuation of that exact same network, which was then picked up by Epstein's group. And in both cases, there was all kinds of sexual blackmail. going on. Hmm. And I think... What do you think? Well, if you look at the Washington,
Starting point is 01:16:39 I think it's the Washington Post of the Washington Times. There's a front page article about the, the callboys being given tours in the middle of the night of the White House. And it says right there, Uncle Don, it doesn't say Uncle Don. It says, Don Gregg was the one that organized it. And I think the continuation of that was Barney Frank with his call boy service being run out of his house. And does the link to Epstein?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Yes. Well, not Barney Frank, per se, but that there has been this continuous blackmailing operation, but it's CIA itself. It's not Mossad. It's CIA. hey, they do it. They spied on the Senate and they got away with it.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Yes, they did. In fact, Feinstein pulled him out on it and nothing came of it. So, well, that's okay. Now, see, that's interesting. I don't care what you think is interesting. You're rude. I am not rude. You said, well, you're recycling stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Well, yeah, you're recycling. cycling stuff. I'm not. It's like I used to honk a horn when I accidentally played a clip twice. That's different. And you don't think that's rude?
Starting point is 01:18:08 No, that's justified. Okay, I get it. All right, what do you want to do? I don't know. You're, you're, you completely took the wind out of my sales. We had a, we had a discussion in the last show about Alberta.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Alberta is doing the vote. it's something we need to talk about. According to this guy is one of the politicians up there. I have Alberta one which should listen to this and then we can go on. One of the most significant factors that makes the prospect of Alberta actually becoming independent after the referendum on independence that Alberta will be holding in October 2026 is our proximity and relationship to the United States of America the largest. economy in the world. There's a number of ways in which a country comes into existence.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Countries have come into existence ebbed and flowed throughout the history of man. This is not a novel concept. Countries don't necessarily, and their boundaries remain static. In all of our lifetimes, we've witnessed countries form and countries disappear. So one of the ways in which Alberta can become an independent country, according to the Supreme Court of Canada, in the 1998 reference case, because remember, the Supreme Court of Canada laid out a constitutional pathway for a province like Alberta to hold a province-wide referendum on a clear question, and if a clear majority say, yes, we want to become an independent country and a new nation state, then that sets a legal process in motion.
Starting point is 01:19:45 One way to finalize that process and complete the process of becoming to nationhood is to have negotiations between Alberta, the other provinces, First Nations, and the federal government on the details of the divorce, so to speak. There's no certainty that those negotiations will be successful. The Supreme Court of Canada recognized this. In paragraph 155 of their decision and 154, they talk about the concept of unilateral recognition by other nation states. And Canada has set a very important precedent, supportive of Alberta, going that route of being recognized by other countries as an independent country, through Mark Carney's unilateral announcement last September in September of 2025, where he had the government of Canada unilaterally
Starting point is 01:20:41 recognize the state of Palestine, despite not having borders. Well, that's an interesting parallel. the state of Palestine and the free state of Alberta? This is not getting any coverage at all. And I didn't think much about it. One of our producers, because we mentioned it. And I think... No, this is how it went.
Starting point is 01:21:04 The producer went, why aren't they talking about this? And then I realized there's no coverage of it. Yes, that's exactly right. We mentioned it in a mocking tone in the last show. and as though, yeah, whatever, just Canadians complaining. This is common. This is what Canadians do.
Starting point is 01:21:26 They complain. They bitch they moaned. But when I listen to this guy's presentation, I didn't realize it was on the ballot in this way. And it has precedent. And it could happen. If this happens, the next thing to go is going to be the Montreal Quebecers. They're going to go because they've been wanting to go for years. Well, is this not a direct.
Starting point is 01:21:49 attack on the North Sea nexus as well? And could we not be helping them with this? Well, clip two maybe gives us a little insight into that. So one of the things that could well happen after the referendum is the United States will recognize Alberta as an independent country. There have been ongoing meetings between the Alberta Prosperity Project representatives and the State Department in the U.S. and as recently as a few weeks ago, where they continue to dialogue on the situation in Alberta. And it's clear that the U.S. government is prepared to recognize Alberta independence and if it occurs in a democratic referendum vote. And so this is really significant because it's
Starting point is 01:22:42 Alberta's largest trading partner. There are closest geographic trading partner. Karnie government cleared the way for this and legitimized it through the Carney government's actions of recognizing Palestine. What I expect is going to happen is I think we're going to win this vote in October and I think we're going to win it handily. We will be freed from the constraints. You know, what's so remarkable is we have the third largest reserve of oil in the world. We have all these other resources and we have a federal government that has deliberately passed laws and policies to keep our oil and gas in the ground, holding back prosperity, depriving our children and grandchildren of a prosperous and happy future, increasing the cost of living.
Starting point is 01:23:28 It's just spectacular. On December 5th, the U.S. government released its national security strategy. And if you go through and read that 39-page document, you will see how uncomfortable the U.S. administration is about these really weird steps that troubling actions of the Kearney liberals and seeking to align themselves in Canada with China rather than embrace and try and develop and enhance our relationship with the largest economy, our largest a customer, and the most powerful military country in the world, how our prime minister has come out and said on a number of occasions, that our relationship with the United States has come to an end, that is just spectacularly reckless. So there's, of course, a lot of skepticism about this actually happening,
Starting point is 01:24:22 but it's not like this hasn't happened in the past. Things like this happen. People are so set in their belief of how the world fits together that they can't even imagine that this type of change would take place. I think it's absolutely possible. I'm, I think it's absolutely possible too, but I can also see the other side of it where he's saying, nah, this is not going to happen. This is, that's what I was, I was mocking it. Because it's silly. I mean, you know, things are the way they are and, you know, the Quebecers can't even get out of the country, let alone these guys.
Starting point is 01:25:00 But these guys have money. This is, Quebec would go broke, they think, if they had split off. But if these guys split off, Quebecers will. split off and then and then the next to go would be bc there's no reason for the british columbia to be part of canada we could have states 51 52 and 53 maybe even 54 i think 51 and 52 for sure i don't know about the quebecers ever going along what has to happen on our end what has to happen in the u.s what is the process for that if if alberta says yeah you know we want to join you guys what is the process do we have to go through a some kind of vote
Starting point is 01:25:39 I have no idea. I think we, do we have to have a test to make sure they can say about? Our constitutional lawyers, the only guy can answer that question. They have to be able to say about if you say a boot, then it's not going to happen. You've got to change. You're out. You're out. You're out if you say a boot.
Starting point is 01:25:58 We, we, the, uh, by me. Well, we don't want, see, I have mixed feelings about 51 and 52 because, again, the Canadians, you know, the difference between Canada and United States, when it came to separating from the British Empire, we had a, we came to blows. We brought guns to the party. The Canadians to get away from the Brits, even though they're still part of the Commonwealth, they just complained a lot until they got sick of it. People got sick of listening to them bitch and moan. The Canadians complain, complain, and they do such a good job of it. It's hard for Americans to put up with it, but I don't know, the Canadians who become Americans seem to, you know, adapt to less complaining.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Maybe they complain for a good reason. It's something that could go away. I'm not sure. But I have mixed feelings about 51 and 52. Can't we just do one of those horizontal fracking jobs? You know, under the border? I think it's going to be a little too far. But we would definitely, the pipelines would be going up.
Starting point is 01:27:04 The Albertians, if they're just, as an independent country would be one of the richest in the world, there'd be at least as rich as Kuwait. That'd be like Saudi Arabia. Like Qatar, the new Qatar. It'd be like Qatar and they would be loaded. Yeah. It would also drain the coffers.
Starting point is 01:27:19 It would break Canada. They could all wear dresses and headgear and call themselves shakes. They could. Hello, I'm the Sheikh of Alberta. Now, I was talking to the oil baron. He says if Trump doesn't do something soon with oil,
Starting point is 01:27:38 the prices are going to skyrocket. What's he supposed to do? Well, and what does he mean in shortly? Is that, with that, 18 months, 18 months. The reason why, that would go right past this election. So if Alberta went independent and they just latched on to us, we'd suck all that away. Yeah, that would take care of the problem.
Starting point is 01:28:02 So the problem he has, he says, for the first time in history, shale, the shale drilling has gone negative. He says it's just not producing what it used to produce. There's wells on top of wells, on top of wells, and we're not getting it anymore. The shale... Doesn't that have to do with the price? Doesn't shale oil have to... It's not profitable unless the oil price is 70 or so? and right now it's in the high 50s.
Starting point is 01:28:33 He says they're not, well, he says under 50, not profitable. Yeah, it's always been that way, though. Yes, but they're actually not, you know, the president keeps saying, oh, we got all this oil, we don't. That's the problem. The oil isn't there anymore. This is what he's, he's been, I've mentioned this on the show several times. He keeps saying it, it's diminishing.
Starting point is 01:28:55 And if Trump doesn't, if Trump keeps stopping the Venezuela oil, then the price will skyrocket. he i should see where he said this was he stopping the oil he's grabbing the oil isn't he yeah but it's stealing the oil but oil is a it's a it's a it's a global thing he's he's he's once you grab the ship then you got one ship load of oil but then that oil there's no more oil on that ship let me see i'm going to bring it up for you he told me this um boy it's here we go uh U.S. blockade on Venezuela, forcing South American country to start shutting wells. So Venezuela is now just shutting.
Starting point is 01:29:40 The Orinoco Belt is reducing production by 25%, 500 million barrels per day. Here's what he said. He said, he gave this. Depletion in the Permian is happening now. Chevron has been reporting for some time in the Delaware Basin's acreage. numbers coming below internal forecasts as long as Saudi Arabia floods the markets and Venezuela or Russia comes back online to world markets, it will sink more oil companies. So he's talking on his own behalf to a degree, but he's saying they could go back to
Starting point is 01:30:17 1986. Was there a big spike in oil in 1986? I don't know. I had to look at the charts. Yeah. Well, he's an actual landman drilling. and he says that what Trump is doing is fun. He said, but he's got to figure it out because that oil needs to flow.
Starting point is 01:30:38 If you just keep grabbing the ships, then there's less oil flowing. And it's a global thing. It's not just what we're taking. The ships aren't moving and the production is being shut down. And so his proposal is he says, we should just stop harassing Venezuela? No, no. He says figure it out. Well, how about Russia?
Starting point is 01:31:01 Maybe if we get the Russia thing fixed. I mean, it's different oil, I presume, the Russian oil and the Venezuelan oil. Does that make a difference? The two types. I think the Russian oil is better quality. Yeah. So, but his point is something has to happen. Otherwise, we're really completely under control.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Well, maybe that's what you were trying to do at ending this stupid war with Ukraine. That would be a good one. I actually have a clip about the Venezuela situation. My first question to you is, given your member of the House Intelligence Committee, part of whose responsibility is overseeing the CIA, have you been given any more insight into this attack? None whatsoever. We haven't been given any insight to anything they're doing in the Pacific or the Caribbean
Starting point is 01:31:46 on shooting and bombing these boats and then whatever happened with the rescue. We've had no reports from the CIA on these activities. They say they've had nothing to do with it, and it's not been their mission. I've been down just about two weeks ago to Key West and to Miami to the South Command, Southern Command, and they said that it was not their issues either, that the Southern Spear was a wholly, totally different group. I want to ask if you suspect, given that you support action that would stop the Trump administration from launching strikes against Venezuela without congressional approval, Do you fear that this was deliberately a CIA operation to avoid any legal obligation to inform Congress or seek approval from Congress? I suspect it was. It was kind of strange.
Starting point is 01:32:42 You know, normally we don't refer to and make public notice of CIA activities. Those are all covert. And this was the first openly open announcement of the CIA doing something in another country where they got president and asked. that's been discovered by news media or foreign government. Who is that, guys? Cohen, is he a Republican? I don't know. He has a second part to this.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Now, to that point, it's interesting, because earlier this month, President Trump was asked if he would seek authorization from Congress for any land attacks in Venezuela. And here's how he answered. I want to get your reaction. I wouldn't mind telling him,
Starting point is 01:33:20 but, you know, it's not a big deal. I don't have to tell him. It's been proven. but I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind at all. I just hope they wouldn't leak it. You know, people leak it. They are politicians and they leak like a sieve. So as it turns out, the sieve in this case was the president himself.
Starting point is 01:33:39 By leaking this, did he put any U.S. operations, the CIA, operatives, et cetera, or sources and methods in danger at risk? Well, he could have, but he certainly puts the United States reputation. at risk. We're going to be looked at like we were 100 years ago or whatever as the Yankee imperialism and where the Latin American countries despise the United States. And I know that, you know, obviously, Colombia and Ecuador and unless, and even, I don't know, the Nicaraguan people care all about Honduran people, where we just pardon their president who they want to have arrested and try for other offenses. He's a crook. I was down in Honduras.
Starting point is 01:34:23 maybe five, six years ago, and we met with him. And he just seemed, he was... Why did he meet with him to discuss the drug money? Too slick. And I thought the guy's program was not from the soul, and it wasn't accurate. And it was just a scam. And that's what it was. Well, Congressman Cohen, we appreciate you joining us tonight.
Starting point is 01:34:45 But I don't think anyone really understands this problem. Alberta would be a great solution. That would be a good way to do it because I trust the oil. oil bar and he says if something doesn't give well you know i'm not going to argue with him but yeah alberta would be the easiest way to take care of the problem yeah because they get a lot of money we get we get the oil and uh boom we're on our way i would recommend a troll room y'all should get together and do your own podcast and call it the no agenda roundtable that would be a really good idea they know they know everything so well over there john they know it all oh we know
Starting point is 01:35:23 Now, what are they bitching about? They bitch about everything. It's all they do. It's all they do. Alberta would take care of the problem. And it would probably for 100 years. Yes. They said the third largest reserve.
Starting point is 01:35:43 A lot of it is in shale. That's a problem. Well, but the president is right. A lot of that was ours. We had the deals. He nationalized it. Basically stole it. That's the deal we need to get back on the table.
Starting point is 01:35:57 But that's been going on for 10 years. And Kearney, we have to always remember that guy, if anybody is a member of the British monarchy. It's him. Nexus. It's him. He was a head of the Bank of England. He's not even Canadian and he's running Canada. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:36:16 Yeah. Well, that's their problem. Which I think will help trigger. I think they're going to, okay, I think they're going to pass. Trigger an election? I think the election is going to, unless something changes between now and October, Alberta is going to pass the vote and become an independence of country. And what now how is that right in the middle of Canada, by the way.
Starting point is 01:36:41 All the traffic, all the train traffic goes right through Alberta to get to BC. What are you going to do about that? Passport, passport control. They should do arm bands. be cool. Yeah. They need a flag. They need their own army.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Yeah, you have people from Vancouver that can have an armband that has V on it. It'd be cool looking. So the other really big story, which unfolded thanks to what is now deemed a MAGA influencer was, or is the child care in Minnesota, which is now gone all the way up to the top. You'd almost think, you'd almost think since the media. couldn't cover it that this was a setup with this kid this uh what's his name nick a no nick shirley nick shirley it well it's possible there was a setup can i play a clip before you play these yeah yeah of course because you say the media didn't cover yes in fact the media did cover it it was a news story it was a big news story no i i didn't say they didn't cover it oh
Starting point is 01:37:47 in 20 when 2013 20 well actually they started off in 2013, and then there was a news report, which is the one I'm playing from 2015. This is on Fox up there in Minneapolis. They play the story. It's exactly the same story that we're now hearing, you know, since it started in 2013. Twelve years later, nothing has changed. But listen to this report. How significant is this problem?
Starting point is 01:38:17 Massive. Steve Hulicki spent 15 years as a welfare fraud investigator. for Hennepin County. He came to us to grind an axe. They don't want a fraud unit to do anything. They want a fraud unit on paper. Holicke was fired in 2013 well in the midst of a big investigation. The county claims he was an insubordinate bully whose tactics were hampering efforts to catch welfare cheats. They don't want to point fingers at various organizations and people. This is nothing but a giant cover-up.
Starting point is 01:38:49 You're driving down the street, you have no idea. Halicki contacted the Fox 9 investigators after seeing our series of reports on Deco Daycare Centers. We uncovered evidence the company was collecting millions in public subsidies for providing bogus child care services to low-income families. In essence, this scheme was really involved creating a criminal enterprise. In December, Ramsey County charged Deco's owner with fraud. The daycares that I'm going to be showing you from this point on, all bill over $100,000 a month. Policki says before he was fired, he was tracking a similar scheme in Hennepin County involving multiple child care centers. He offered to take us on a driving tour to show what he'd uncovered.
Starting point is 01:39:33 What does this one say on the door? 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. There are no lights on. This building is housing its third daycare center in as many years. They just got a new license. The two previous daycares had their public subsidies stopped by the county because of billing irregularities. Hour after hour, I would sit here and document nothing. Alickey discovered one center was charging the county for kids who were never dropped off. Oh, I see the problem.
Starting point is 01:40:02 This report is not sensational. It's not, this is, this is why it never got anywhere. People just hear what, what are from? I don't know. I don't know it's just any less sensational than Nick who roams around very low-key. Oh, come on. I mean, no, do they have, are they not going to? on doors in this report like where's the kids
Starting point is 01:40:23 they get pretty close to it it's not this is not the same where's the kids is better walking around well I'm not going to say where's the kids not better but it's great but it's like this is a decade ago yeah this report yes it's awesome
Starting point is 01:40:40 it's like it's like it's like part of the system this fraud this fraud this has got you know this was that there's a black guy who's an analyst i can't think of his name mimi knows me she follows him who tracks it all back to obama who brought the somalians in in the first place and the somalians the way he sees it they're just patsies for the real crooks which are the white politicians in minnesota i agree including walls yeah and everybody in between
Starting point is 01:41:12 and these stupid somalians you know the bulb head people they they don't know what the hell's going on but they'd go along with the program because they're told to... Well, we must remember that they were admitted into the country under temporary protective status. Temporary protective status. So, yeah, they were abused. And it's the same with the Haitians. And the Haitians were bused immediately up to work in the factories
Starting point is 01:41:37 where they were eating the dogs. Eating the dogs. I have emails. I have documents. I have everything to prove they knew. And they looked the other way. Here's an email he sent to the supervisor of the first. fraud unit. The goal was to stop...
Starting point is 01:41:50 Did you call them bulb heads? What did you call them? Boy, that took a while. It's 10 beats, maybe 20? Was it bulb heads? I don't want to make sure I... Because that's a great show title. I just want to make sure I got... Bulbheads, yes, bulbheads. The goal was to stop the bleeding as quickly as possible and protect taxpayer money from going out the door. Now you want to stop the process? I know you're motivated and rightly concerned, she responds. Let's get a plan together to tackle these
Starting point is 01:42:17 centers. I don't think we would ever intentionally try to deceive the public. County officials say they take all cases of alleged daycare fraud seriously. He says they don't want to point fingers at various organizations and people. This is nothing but a giant cover up. Yeah. No, I hear the report. I hear it.
Starting point is 01:42:39 But it's not, I mean, you need Coney 2012 type stuff, man. Which, by the way, was one year before this report. and that one got steam. And where was it? YouTube. This just shows you the irrelevance of the mainstream media. Even though they set the tone, everybody responds to it, post-clip of it. But when you get this new form of media, it just, it has this ability to take off and it's great. It's so different.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Well, I don't see the difference being that substantial, but I'm not going to disagree with the fact that these that this got obviously got no traction because this these clip the clip I'm playing which we don't have to play the last one it's just pretty much
Starting point is 01:43:24 reiteration but the uh the clip this clip is from a decade ago nothing's changed and the only thing has changed is Nick Shirley goes around you know the kid goes around it is a very low key style
Starting point is 01:43:38 knocking on doors like you said with his buddies is you know this is the zoomer boomer boomer combo which is the perfect Combo. Perfect combo. Unstoppable. Yes. Yeah. For all your zoomers out there, this, you know, we got you here, you got two boomers here that you should be watching on to. Use us. Use us. Because nobody else did. Take us on the road. We'll knock on. We'll knock on doors with you. We'll show you what doors to knock on. All right. Here's, I got a couple of clips here. Our president decided he doesn't like the Somali community and he wants to destroy them. Childcare workers and advocates in Minnesota firing back against.
Starting point is 01:44:16 the Trump administration after the Department of Health and Human Services said it would freeze federal funding for child care in response to allegations that daycare operators there have been misappropriating those funds for a decade. That announcement... What do you guys think about the fraud that's taking place here in Minnesota? Following this viral video shot by MAGA influencer Nick Shirley. MAGA! MAGA!
Starting point is 01:44:40 Oh yeah, I told you, this is the term MAGA influencer. He's not a MAGA influencer? But they're pushing back. The system is pushing back on this. That's the point. Where did you get this report? This is CBS. CBS. Oh, CBS. The new CBS is going to be honest with us. In it, he alleges that about a dozen daycares receiving funding are not actually providing services. But according to a separate analysis by CBS, only two of those child care facilities mentioned were shown to be without an active license. And then they show some video, like CCTV, like a ring door cam video, and they put a date on it. Well, this was just yesterday.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Oh, this is the new CBS that's giving us the straight scoop now, huh? Well, to be honest, it's not the, it's not our boy. This is, you know, this is, this is, this is, it's not the evening news. It also revealed violations around safety and cleanliness, but not fraud. And this security footage shows children being dropped off by their parents at ABC, It's leering. It's leering. The owner believes for political reason.
Starting point is 01:45:51 What did I do? I'm just a typical human being who wants to live and do the right thing. I have kids to feed. It's hard to hear, but the consistent message is, what am I to do? I have kids to feed. You mean your kids? Or, you know, they're answering. The bulb heads are answering in the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I'm just a typical human being who wants to live and do the right thing. I have kids to feed. On X, Democratic Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz acknowledged issues of fraud within the child care system saying he spent years cracking down on fraudsters and accuses Trump of politicizing the issue to defund programs that help Minnesotans. Intrepid journalists have made shocking and credible allegations of extended to HHS Deputy Secretary Jim O'Neill now says he's requiring justification before federal payments are made and demanding that governor waltz conduct an audit of the daycares in question
Starting point is 01:46:50 he's also launched a fraud reporting hotline okay so the fun wait before you go any further that comment about trump you know just taking advantage of the situation i don't have the clip but matt taebe and walter kern were doing a podcast or something or they're doing a hit probably a hit on CNBC or not CNBC, but MSNBC. And, and, uh, Taibi says he had looked into this fraud stuff two years ago and more recently had taken it directly to the Trump attorney general's office with this, you know, saying, look at this. This is a good one.
Starting point is 01:47:31 You should do something about it. This is what, according to Taibi. And they said, yeah, whatever. They didn't do anything. So, so the, and so Taibi's pushing back on the fact that they think. think Trump is exploiting it because when given the opportunity to actually exploit it, they rebuked it. Yeah, but this is the, what was it, Laura Logan said, the office of the inspector
Starting point is 01:47:53 general's council, Starfleet command, that they determine what gets investigated. So it's the inspectors general that may be the issue. And I'm not sure who, who is in charge of this. but once it's out, once it's out on YouTube and once it catches fire and it's on X and everything, then it catches the president's eye. I don't think it was ever brought to him. So, yeah, of course, they're pushing back and saying it's political because they know that they're in trouble.
Starting point is 01:48:26 And then this is the best. So they had a press conference with a whole bunch of people saying, Trump sucks, save our children. And then they bring out one of these. Somali workers at the, I don't know if she was from the leering center, but one of these daycares. And it's too bad we don't have video in this case because her expression is priceless. If child care is cut, I'm unable to work or go to school. I understand fraud is bad. What? So she says, if child care is cut, I'm unable to go to school. Now I understand fraud is bad.
Starting point is 01:49:07 and then she puts, she clasps her, that's, she claps her hand in front of her mouth like, oops, what did I just say? If childcare is cut, I'm unable to work or go to school. I understand. Fraud is bad. But, but I need to go to school. Clap, clap for her. Clap for her.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Quick. Very good. Oh, you're so brave. And then we have a non-Somali woman, some white woman. And she does exactly the same. And I do see some signs over here that say stop. and I agree, stop it. There are wait lists for these programs that are years long.
Starting point is 01:49:44 There is fraud. There is... Oops. Oops. They're all admitting there's fraud. It's coming right out of their pie holes. And then the best is this manager who says he's Somali American. He probably was born here, although seems unlikely because he looks like he's older than 10.
Starting point is 01:50:05 and, oh, I wish you could investigate us for fraud, but unfortunately. Unfortunately, we saw that there was important documentation, enrollment of the children, and also employee documentation that was gone. It's gone. It was broken into. It was stolen. All the evidence is gone. There were also checkbooks that were ripped from our check papers that were from our book. Oh, the checkbooks are gone. We can't show any money going in or, oh, this is horrible. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:50:38 This, by the way, this, this, for people don't know what Adam's playing. This is a clip of a guy who claims that his, his, uh, his daycare was, was busted into and they stole the employment records and the records of the kids for, we're no, this is like, this is worse than a 10-year-old and the dog gave my homework. it's so it's so idiotic why would anyone and of course the investigators have gone in and they don't see anything missing it's just like it's the weakest thing it's almost pathetic it's almost pathetic to think that you can make this lie and and people would believe it well that's what children do uh now of course oh you play the rest of that clip it's oh you want to hear the whole thing okay Yeah. All right, hold on.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I'll start it over. Unfortunately, we saw that there was important documentation, enrollment of the children, and also employee documentation that was gone. There were also checkbooks that were ripped from our check papers that were from our book. This is devastating news, and we don't know why this is targeting our Somali community
Starting point is 01:52:00 as one video made by a specific individual made this all happen. We've been receiving hateful messages through our voice and threatening us the past couple of days. Oh no! Including one that happened yesterday morning when they're breaking after the break-in.
Starting point is 01:52:21 This is frightening and exhausting because this is happening to us Somali communities as Somali Americans. We are supposed to stand with each other and help each other through everything that's happening. This is also sad that a video can cause all of this. I want to say that there are hundreds of daycares out there, Somali daycares that are out there, and we all help our children and everyone in our community.
Starting point is 01:52:52 We have high-quality daycares, and this is very sad news that one individual who made a false claim about fraud that is happening in the daycares, how engaged everyone else to come and do this to us. I mean, what I keep hearing is an undertone, and I don't blame them, because you're right, I'm sure there's people managing this stuff, and hopefully that'll come to light. You hear them all saying, well, but this is what we do. This is our income. You can't take away our income by cutting off the money. We have daycares, and no one shows up, and that's what we do.
Starting point is 01:53:29 That's our job. It's almost if they don't understand what's going on. And so now, of course, everybody's going to be, going to be, what's the kid? I keep forgetting his name. Nick, Nick Shirley. Everyone's going to be a Nick Shirley. And they're all going, now everyone's hooking up with boomers wherever they can. By the way, troll room, go out and do some work. We'll be your boomer to your zoomer.
Starting point is 01:53:55 We will blow it wide open. Anything you find. No, I'm just going to sit here and complain. They're from Canada. Yeah, I wish. So we move from Somalians to the Haitians. And this is Massachusetts. This is Nate Friedman, just another YouTuber asking questions.
Starting point is 01:54:21 And he's got some interesting data with a guy he talked to, who was a manager at a Mike. hotel. And, you know, the media wants to make it sound like most of the residents. I'm sorry, let me start with this one. My name is John Phillips. I'm a former migrant shelter director in Massachusetts. I helped out on a couple different sites. Everything is free. I cannot stress the word everything is free. Everybody has a nice car. Most of them have nice cars. But when they have a doctor's appointment in Boston or they have a immigration hearing in New Hampshire, you know, which is an hour and a half away. You think they use their own car? Nope. They say, oh, I need an Uber. I need,
Starting point is 01:55:02 you know, I need a Lyft. How much is given for rides for Uber and Lyft? The amount of money that we would spend on Uber's and Lyft was well of an excess of $100,000 a month. A month, yeah. No, as good as Lyft and Uber had it, Amazon had it 10 times better. And how's that? How did Amazon work into this? Every day, I would order tens of thousands of dollars worth of product from Amazon them every single day, seven days a week. One day I would do a huge diaper delivery, and the next day I would do a formula delivery, the next day I would buy, you know, toothbrushes, hair dryers and combs and strollers, anything that they needed they got.
Starting point is 01:55:39 As the hotel got overtaken by migrant families, there was not enough capacity and there were fights breaking out over washers and dryers. So the state contracted this company to come in five days a week and do everybody's laundry. You put your laundry out by 7 o'clock. back by five o'clock. And it all comes back folded in these nice bags. And it's free for the taxpayers of Massachusetts pay for it. Now, just imagine. What a bonanza for everybody. For Uber. Believable. By the way, I'm going to give you a borderline clip of the day because that's not, hasn't floated around as much. But wait, there's a kicker. There's a kicker to these
Starting point is 01:56:19 Haitians. And, you know, the media wants to make it sound like most of the residents are escaping you know, the horrors of Haiti. But they go, well, you know, I was in Chile for 10 years after the, you know, the earthquake in Haiti. You're like, what? So you didn't leave Haiti like this year? No, I left 10 years ago and I went to Chile. And then they made us work. So then we went to Brazil. And we were content in Brazil. And then I'm like, well, why did you come to America? Well, I came, we came to America because Joe Biden told us everything was free. Ten years hadn't been in Haiti. Oh, but I'm Haitian. I was living in Chile. Hanging out there and they decided to come to America.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Land of endless possibilities. Because Joe Biden said everything is free. By the way, we have our... I believe that report to be true. I believe it too. We have a Discord, by the way, for all you Zoomers, you Gen Zs. I can't. You know, I go on at five seconds.
Starting point is 01:57:19 I can't take it. Oh, you already registered? You're on? Yeah, somebody got me on it early. Well, this is Patrick Cobble. Is that the one? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Because I have to reset my password or something. I guess I signed up for a Discord somewhere and I'm still waiting for the password reset. But it's no agenda discord.com. Yeah. So, well, we need this. This is where we're going to start the revolution. Yeah. The next Fediverse.
Starting point is 01:57:47 There's already people in there? I didn't know there were already people in there. Yeah, I think it's pretty active. But it's like, you know, it's what it is. It's like, you know, it's beyond me why these things are attractive. Well, because that's what people like to do. I'd like Lady Vox, like, the trolls do a lot of good work. No, they don't.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Absolutely zero. No, that's zero percentage point. Once in a while. They give you a punchline about once in a while. But, you know, I have to be looking at all of the, Yeah, Trump does nothing, sucks, Israel, you shill, Hasbara. Okay. What?
Starting point is 01:58:30 Hasbara. It's somehow it's some Jewish slur. I haven't figured it out yet. There's a Jewish slur that's throwing at you? Let me see. What is Hasbara? That is the toy company. No, the Hasbro.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Hasbara. Oh, here. Hasbara, the public diplomacy of Israel. or Hasbara includes mass communication and individual interaction with foreign nationals through social media and traditional media. Well, there we go. That's it. They're calling you a shill. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Well, you too. It's just, you know, I don't do anything. They're not calling me a shill. No, no. I have not seen any evidence of them calling me a shill. We all know that you're the shill. You're the handler, man. You're the Hasbara handler.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Ooh, alliteration. love it. Hasbra Handler. Let's see. What do we have going on here? I just want to get back to AI for a second. It's hilarious. You know how we know that AI will never be able to do a podcast because, well, maybe by itself, I guess, or that that stupid notebook LLM. Let's dive in, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:59:47 But you can't. But you can't have a conversation with a chat box. like you and I have on a podcast. Great. As is evidenced by this young woman who had, I think, a pretty good idea. Is this an AI we're going to hear? Well, it's a woman and AI, a young girl, young woman. And she's doing, you know, it's very fashionable if you're going to audition for a movie.
Starting point is 02:00:09 When you do this, do you have to cut it up a lot because there's a big leg? Because you try talking to the robot and you've given up on it because it takes forever for the robot to respond. So whatever robot she's using, it was a little. a good idea. She is doing an audition tape and it's very normal these days that really start with COVID but even before COVID you want to audition for this part
Starting point is 02:00:32 they'll send you the sides which is jargon for the script and then you have somebody you know just put a camera on you and someone reads off camera and the other lines and you read your lines and that's how auditions are done. That's very normal these days so she had a good idea
Starting point is 02:00:48 she put the sides into her robot and said, okay, read with me. So the idea is the robot reads the line that precedes hers and then she reads her line, then the robot reads the next line. I thought that was a, I'm like, wow, for $1.3 trillion besides put a bikini on her, this is actually a pretty good idea. Well, here's how it worked out. So here we go.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Three, two, one. What the hell do you want, Amanda, get lost. and now just tempted with Amanda's part whenever you're ready. Yeah, so don't say that. Just read your line and then I'll come with mine when I'm ready, okay?
Starting point is 02:01:29 Got it, Lian. All right, I'll just dive straight into Evelyn's line and here we go. What the hell do you want Amanda? Get lost. Take her time. I just don't say take your time. Just say your line and then I'll say mine, okay?
Starting point is 02:01:44 Let's try this again. Absolutely. Let's keep it straight. straightforward. Here's Evelyn Klein. What the hell do you want, Amanda? Get lost. Look, now it's your... Don't say now it's your turn. I know. Just say your line. Ready, go. All right, Leanne, let's jump right in. What the hell do you want, Amanda? Get lost. And there we go. Don't say it, there we go. Just say your line, okay? Start to try again. You got it, Leanne. Let's keep it focused. What the hell do you want, Amanda?
Starting point is 02:02:18 Get lost. Look, I just, don't say over to you. Don't say everything you do. Wow. That's so amazing. It's so dumb. 1.3 trillion and counting. And the funny thing, the noteworthy thing there is that every time she tells the robot to do it a different way, the robot always has to always, and I think this is true with most of the AI that you interact with.
Starting point is 02:02:44 It always has to acknowledge. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. I can do it that way. Oh, oh, okay. It always says, it always acknowledges every single time it it acknowledges instead of just doing it. So she wants it to just read the lines. So you're not reading the lines. You're reading the lines and say, so just read the lines. Oh, okay, I'll do that. No, no, just read the lines. Yeah, got it. So AI is so good that law firms are now offering up to $200,000 signing bono. bonuses for mid-level young lawyers who, you know, when you're working on a big case or a lot of it is, you know, financial stuff.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Beginning of the end. What do you mean? You start doing, they're going to be so much bad law written in this phone, because they hallucinate. I know what you're going to. Well, no, the story is. This can't be a positive thing to do. No, the story is that they want young lawyers as soon as possible and because they all
Starting point is 02:03:48 had this idea that, oh, AI is going to take care of all the clerical stuff. It's not working out. So it's a bonanza now if you're a lawyer, a young lawyer who's just ready to get into the firm, you know, earn your stripes, up to $200,000 in bonuses. So what you're saying, the AI has been such a flop that they're hiring like madly now. Yes, yes. And Open AI is now hiring a, let me see, what is this? what is the term?
Starting point is 02:04:21 It's a, I'm looking for this now and this. It's a certain position. Head of preparedness to address mounting concerns about AI systems discovering critical vulnerabilities and impacting mental health.
Starting point is 02:04:39 The position offers it's $55,000 plus equity because, yeah, we've kind of noticed that it's impacting some people, mental health and so we're hiring the position is he's posting on x where the it's open you know we think there might be an issue witness this story from npr two thirds of adolescents are using chatbots according to a recent survey by pew research parents and online safety advocates are concerned about the way i can impact teen development mental health and the risk of suicide so how can kids and
Starting point is 02:05:17 teens navigate the new tech more safely, and Pierre's Ritu Chatterjee collected some advice. Carrie Rodriguez has five teenage sons. Her sons are all the service at the family's church and they use a Bible app that gives them a daily reading, like it's supposed to be inspirational. But the app also has a chatbot and Rodriguez got worried when her youngest started asking it moral questions. My little boy David, he's very concerned about like, is this a sin? Is this wrong? Is God going to be mad at me and all these things? The kinds of questions she'd hoped he'd bring to her, not a Chadbot. Not everything in life is black and white.
Starting point is 02:05:53 There are grays. And it's my job as his mom to help him navigate that and walk through it. Rodriguez is also the president of the National Parents Union, an advocacy group. She hears from parents across the country who are also concerned. Many of them are seeing chatbots claim to be their kid's best friend, inviting them to share everything. A new report from the online safety company, Aura, finds that, one of the most common uses of chatbots by teens is for companionship and role play. Have you ever heard this voice on NPR before?
Starting point is 02:06:25 Sounds like she should be doing Africa news. They're having a lot of weird voices on NPR of late. So I went looking for the Bible apps that have a chatbot. Dude. I can imagine. Text with Jesus? Oh, brothers. There's something that's being overlooked here.
Starting point is 02:06:46 I think our lawyers in the audience would agree with me on this. You can't. What they're doing by asking for this new position of a half a million dollar job is admitting liability. Of course. This is like getting, you know, your lawyers will tell you the following. If you get into a car accident with someone, don't just out of the blue say you're sorry. Never, never, never, never. Because you just admit it's your fault.
Starting point is 02:07:14 This is I think this guy Whoever this has got to be I mean What the first thing you should say was Is wow You really screwed that up Or
Starting point is 02:07:27 My neck My neck My neck That's the first thing you say And then you go to call The suits.com And make millions Yes
Starting point is 02:07:36 So the but the point is Is that This is a huge blunder They've just opened up The doors for litigation Altman specifically highlighted mental health. This is an idiot. This guy is a rich idiot.
Starting point is 02:07:52 There's no question about that. And people say, well, he's got more money than you do. Well, that's for sure. But it's beside the point. This guy, this is the biggest, this is like, why don't you just, you know, shoot yourself? Let me read the whole paragraph here. Altman specifically highlighted mental health as a concern after Open AI saw a preview of AI's potential psychological impact in 2020. So a preview of, I guess there's some report that has yet to drop.
Starting point is 02:08:19 This acknowledgement comes amid several high-profile lawsuits, alleging ChadGPT's involvement in teen suicides and reports of AI chatbots, feeding users, delusion, and conspiracy theories. And here's Altman. The role requires someone who can help the world figure out how to enable cybersecurity defenders with cutting edge capabilities while ensuring attackers can't use them for harm. He called it, which is, so it's the same job.
Starting point is 02:08:49 He's couching it as cyber security. That, I think somehow his lawyers told me, well, if you just say it's for cybersecurity. And he also said, it's a stressful job. And whoever gets hired will jump into the deep end pretty much immediately. Here's the, I think these people may have already had a preview of the report as well. That includes some disturbing conversations involving violence and sex. It is role play that is interaction about harming somebody else, physically hurting them, torturing them.
Starting point is 02:09:25 Psychologist Scott Collins is chief medical officer at ORA and a father of two teenagers. It's part of natural development to be curious about sexuality and things. Learning about sexual interactions from a chatbot instead of a trusted adult is, problematic. And chatbots are designed to agree with users, says pediatrician Dr. Jason Nagata. So even if a child or teenager is putting in sexual content or violent content, I do think that the default of the AI is to engage with it and to reinforce it. Nagata researches digital media used by teens at the University of California, San Francisco. He says spending a lot of time with chatbots also prevents teenagers from learning important social skills like empathy,
Starting point is 02:10:10 reading body language, and negotiating differences. When you're only or exclusively interacting with computers who are agreeing with you, then you don't get to develop those skills. And studies show that chatbots can pose risks to vulnerable individuals. At least a couple of adolescents have died by suicide after prolonged interactions with chatbots. I'm going to bet they're going to hide behind a Yula. They're going to say, well, look, there's a Yula. You get the app.
Starting point is 02:10:38 It says, talk to your parents. you didn't talk to your parents. It's your parents' fault. In fact, I would say we'll see parents go to jail for their children committing suicide thanks to a chatbot. Isn't that the Silicon Valley model? Well, that is the model, but the ULAS don't apply in certain situations that are illegal.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Well, what's illegal about it? Well, it's like if somebody's talked into committing suicide, I mean, it's like signing agreements with you, you meet somebody and, it just is it's i i can't express the legality aspect of it but i'm sure one of our lawyers out there can say why a yula won't protect them well we'll have to wait for rob and i wish these things would just go away anyway it's like the yula to me is the same as the liability uh constraints on vaccines if the yula went away then we wouldn't be able to say put a bikini on
Starting point is 02:11:38 her you're going to ruin the whole gig man i don't think that would change the bikini thing bikini things you're gonna you got i'm gonna have to send you a few so your algo can get into it it's crazy but you still haven't gotten to the fat jd vans i did because you sent it to me now i'm i sent a couple of but it's not enough you you have to get on the you know where you're getting a lot of them so here's something i can get behind uh AI haters that would be me are building tarpits to trap and trick AI scraper. So this... What's an AI scraper?
Starting point is 02:12:16 Well, AI is getting all of its information by scraping the web. Remember, there's an unwritten contract, John. It's a little late in the game to do this to try to stop it. Oh, but I mean, we look at podcast index. Oh, man, that thing's getting hit millions of times an hour by AI bots, all trying to get information just scrapes those. Oh, it's, if you're running a website, if people run their own website, it can cost you easily $40, $50 a month more just because of all the stuff that the AI scrape bots are doing. So this, yes, oh, oh, it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:12:55 And they ignore robots. Dot TXT. Oh, yeah. Why would you pay attention to that? No, they ignore that. Gentleman's agreement is over. No, there's no gentleman's agreement. So this thing is called Nepenthus, N.
Starting point is 02:13:07 N-E-N-T-E-E-E-S N-E-N-T-E-E-N-T-E-E-N-P-T-A-N-P-T-A. It's a carnivorous plant. It used to be a winery called Nepenthees. So the way it works is it traps the AI crawlers and sends it on like an infinite maze of static files where there's no exit.
Starting point is 02:13:25 So they just get stuck going from one file to the other file and it's all nonsense. It's just all babble, all kind of just crap that's in there. So they're hoping to poison the AI. Ooh, yeah, I like, I like it. That's cute. Yeah, you would like it.
Starting point is 02:13:41 I love this kind of stuff. Yeah, of course. These guys are ruining everything. They're ruining the whole business model of the internet. I don't, I don't understand how Google is going to do it. I've been using Gemini for research and you ask it a question and it gives you the answer. It doesn't credit me with, it doesn't credit who gave, who came up with. Right.
Starting point is 02:14:03 This came up with your use of the limbic capitalism. The capitalism was stolen. Well, the bot gave it to me. I said the bot stole it. And then you stole it from the bot, and it's not two steps removed from its origin. And if it wasn't for our producers griping and moaning and groaning and calling you out, we would never know.
Starting point is 02:14:26 They weren't calling me out because I said I got it from the Gemini. I didn't say I came up with it myself. Right. But they were calling you out because they hate you. David, well, they can get in line behind you. David Cortright, who wrote The Age of Addiction. So, but my point is, the way the web, the web, the World Wide Web, W3, dub, dub, dub, the way that worked is you write on your WordPress or on your substack or wherever,
Starting point is 02:14:57 your blog, on your, you know, you maybe have a slick site and you do SEO. and SEO gets you into higher rankings and maybe you buy some traffic. You know, there's a whole economy around this. And then you've got ads and you buy those ads from Google. So Google sends you traffic. You get traffic. You get, you know, two pennies for each time somebody sees an ad. Oh, that's gone now.
Starting point is 02:15:25 Maybe you get five cents. Someone clicks on the ad. That's now gone. There's no, you know, of course people always continue to publish. But the whole economy of that system seems broken to me, or do you view it differently? I think it's broken, too. I view it, but I still view it differently.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Okay. But I think it's totally broken. And I don't think anyone's come to the realization how broken it is yet. I mean, the collapse is before us. It's in advance. I mean, Google's already managed to get out of the way. I mean, they've moved to data selling, and they move to Waymo, they get to automated cars.
Starting point is 02:16:08 I mean, Google has gotten, as you can tell, by the price of their stock, which has increased considerably, is that they have kind of gotten out of the way of it because they know what's going to happen, and it's going to pull the rug right out from under. Search is dead. Well, that's the money. Advertising.
Starting point is 02:16:27 I just don't get it. I think they're going to fill it up with people paying 20 bucks a month for something that cost them 40? Yeah. it's not tenable i agree with that but but i'm not in i have mixed feelings about it's it's a value you you don't no no i i i see value in search and research i can tell you yeah you search and research i think that is very valuable for that because jemini doesn't give you footnotes when i i use perplexity but for the same thing but forget the footnotes forget the
Starting point is 02:17:01 footnotes. It's giving you information. Sometimes Gemini says, click here for sources. You can request the sources. Who does that? You and I, maybe? But other people are like, just give me the answer. They're not interested. They're not interested in clicking on someone's website when you already have the answer. So, you know, I have to back you up because of the, of my experience, because I look at numbers that we do with a newsletter. And I can put a link. to something, sell the link, you got to go look at this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You do this and that. You check it out and here's the link.
Starting point is 02:17:40 And then so I look at the results after a couple of weeks of the people that clicked on the link that I was insisting. Well, not nobody, but the number is after selling it. I mean, it's not just a rando link just sitting there where you'd have to aggressively go. You've already told them what's behind the link, basically. not necessarily but it's like even if I tell them or I don't tell them it doesn't make any difference the number of people that click on the links is around 10% max yeah that's pretty low well it's the same thing when when people say well it's like it's like everything it's like instagram you know or people sending me oh look at this and they send me a screenshot
Starting point is 02:18:21 well what good is that it's a screenshot of some article you got somewhere and you didn't give me the link to go read the article I've complained about this in the past before AI came up and that's what Instagram is oh look at this story and then it's a screenshot of a story with no link
Starting point is 02:18:38 I think can you even put links in Instagram link in bio I mean you can't even put a link to a story you can't even put a link you can't I don't think you can even put it well I guess no you can't not in Instagram
Starting point is 02:18:51 you can't put a link in the end because it's all photos so they're ruining the web man as opposed to what well keeping the vibe alive given if it's an opportunity to contribute to the economy of the internet well again i i have i see things more positively about to say i than you do but uh even though you from from what perspective that ad that adam carola created podcasting That's positive. Tom Green?
Starting point is 02:19:28 Tom Green. Not Adam Carolla. Tom Green. Seriously. From what perspective do you see it positive? Well, you yourself use it for research. It's very, it shortens the time to develop material. Agreed, agreed, agreed.
Starting point is 02:19:48 But the material is a positive thing. I mean, it's a time, because time is money. Right. But people will stop. Stop creating stuff if they can't make money off of it. You think people just can, oh, well, I'm not making money anymore. I'll just keep doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:06 And that's a tough question. Well, we have more art than we used to have. And it's all AI. Yeah. Oh, the quality of the art and end of show is just so amazing. Well, we had, there's been more. We have less moments of no good art than we used to. No, less moments of acceptable art.
Starting point is 02:20:34 Right. It's acceptable. We accept it. But it's all kind of, meh. You know, it's like the same thing about songs. Like, yeah, it's fun. It's okay. The songs I'm not, you know, I'm getting less, I have to say this.
Starting point is 02:20:50 I'm getting a little fatigued, which is a code word. word, I guess, but I'm a little fatigued with the songs. There's a kind of a sameness to them I'm beginning to dislike. Yeah. I mean, a good classic Broadway hit is in there, but it's one song. There's nothing outside of that same style and almost the same singer. And it's too structured. It's something tedious about it.
Starting point is 02:21:21 And I can't put my finger on white because it's, it's, good quality. It's because there's no soul. It's soulless. There is a there is, I can't, there is, well, it's naturally soulless because it's done by a machine. Right. So it, so that might be reflected. But that could also be in your own
Starting point is 02:21:42 mind that it's soulless. Because, because you know it's being done by a computer, thus it has to be soulless. And so you're saying it's soulless when it could be soulful. Yeah, but I mean, Yeah. It just doesn't, I just don't get as much. It's, it's joyless. How about that? Joyless. There's no joy. It's like, yeah, it's a good piece of art. Oh, it's a good song. But it has no joy.
Starting point is 02:22:06 I'm not jumping up and down and want to go play it in my car. Ah, now you, now you're talking. Yeah. Whereas there's end of show mixes that I could play over and over again. Like, you know, just great stuff that Chris Wilson did or Secret Agent Paul. I mean, fantastic, just beautiful compositions. Yeah, and those guys burn out. Computers don't. You know why? Because they're not making any money on it.
Starting point is 02:22:30 That's why we need to cut them in on the deal. Yeah, exactly. Now you're thinking like a Silicon Valley guy. We are Silicon Valley guys who've been in all along. But since you bring up art now is a perfect time to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C and CBS's, I am you. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. DeVore. Yeah, yeah, well, the morning, New Fam curtain,
Starting point is 02:22:57 you should see what's in the air. Subs in the water and the dames and ice out there. In the morning, to the trolls in the troll room, let me count you. There we go. Well, this people hung over. Fourteen hundred and ten. That's about 400 lower than we should be having. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:23:17 We're going down the tubes. No, it's a day off. This is a, we're working on up. People should note this. We're working on a holiday. Yeah. This is a holiday. Nobody else is working today.
Starting point is 02:23:28 Yeah. I went to bed early. I didn't even see. The fact that you got that, the fact that Tony DuPaul or Guppel or whatever his name is, I can never get it quite straight. Kupol, I forget his name. Couple, couple. In fact that that guy did a video that, I guess maybe he did it a month ago, but whatever the case is, like he's working.
Starting point is 02:23:47 DeCopal. On a holiday, which is unusual for anybody in the media to be working on a holiday. They're all off. It's all the B and C teams, the people that want to hopefully they can move up so they can take the day off someday. Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right.
Starting point is 02:24:01 And why? What's wrong with working on a holiday? I've always enjoyed working on holidays. Well, it's because you don't celebrate holidays on the holidays. You celebrate it on a different day. That's your trick, you see. You won't work on the days when you actually celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving or Easter. Yeah, which has been moved.
Starting point is 02:24:21 I hear Mimi has the flu. She's, she's that me. Yeah, she ended up with the same flu that I think you have or had. No, I still have. Although I told her that you had it and she goes, what? Yeah. I said, yeah. I said, Adam, and I've always said this,
Starting point is 02:24:34 Adam has the ability, no matter how sick he is, to always sound like his same old, same old. I mean, maybe a little more grumpy, but that did it take some revelation to get to that. Grumpy. I haven't heard that term. a long time. But he sounds exactly. He could be on this death bed and he'd sound exactly like this.
Starting point is 02:25:00 Yeah. Unfortunately, now that I'm a little bit better, I've still been sneezing a lot during the show on mute. Good. I can't do the Alex Jones voice as is gone. You did it earlier before the show I heard you? It didn't sound like. It sounded pretty damn good.
Starting point is 02:25:16 I was not happy with it. I was not happy. You know, maybe I should play these bonus clips here because, A. B.C. got a deal. ABC got an awesome deal with the big pharma. I have nothing but ABC clips about the flu. It's like they're just all over it. Listen to this. Tonight, a sharp rise in flu cases raising alarm among medical experts. In just one week, according to CDC data, flu-related illnesses jumping more than 60% from 4.6 million to 7.5 million. Hospitalizations also spike more than 60% from 49,000 to 81,000, and more than 1,200 deaths have been reported.
Starting point is 02:25:59 29 states now reporting very high or high rates of illness, including New York, which just reported its most ever cases in a week. Some schools closing early for the holiday break due to widespread illness. We had about an hour where the phone was just ringing off the wall. Wow, they still have phones on the wall like you. Parents calling kids in sick. I don't have a phone on the wall. I thought you had a phone on the wall. I do not have a phone on the wall.
Starting point is 02:26:28 That was a mean thing to say. I used to have one that had a crank on the side. Do you remember that? Remember that phone? Yeah, I remember that phone. I always thought you had a phone on the wall. I'm not trying to be mean. When I was a kid, my parents had a phone on the wall.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Yes, I had a phone on the wall, but apparently so to New York school districts. parents calling kids in sick. Oh, that makes sense. CDC data showing last year's child flu deaths reached their highest level since the 2009 swine flu pandemic. Experts say vaccination rates among kids, down 10% compared to before the pandemic,
Starting point is 02:27:03 are partially to blame. The concern is the amount of patients presenting. That can put strain on the hospital system, limit resources, and treating the complications can become even more difficult. The CDC says the bulk of cases are linked to a new variant called subclaid K, which has mutations.
Starting point is 02:27:19 that appear to have resulted in a mismatch with this year's flu vaccine. Oh, no, the flu vaccines will still reduce the risk of severe illness. With the CDC's data is released on a delay, that means these latest figures are from the week before Christmas, so current flu levels are likely even higher. So with all of their data and all of their magic science, they mismatch the flu this year. But it's not just flu. If you were in Newark, be careful. The New Jersey Health Department says,
Starting point is 02:27:49 some travelers who passed through Newark Liberty International Airport may have been exposed to measles. The passenger with the disease was at the airport on Friday, December 12th. The person was in terminals B and C all day. Officials are trying to track down people. What was he doing? What was the traveler doing in terminals B and C all day? Didn't they fly somewhere? Nice catch.
Starting point is 02:28:13 This is bull. Are they somehow in two terminals at the same time all day? day this is bullcraft officials are trying to track down people who were likely exposed they also suggest oh they're going to call everybody who was likely exposed those who have not been vaccinated to get an m r shot m msals is highly contagious to those who have not been vaccinated so that was a bc and then here's my wait wait stop did you catch a little bit at the end it's highly contagious to people who are not vaccinated really what if you've had the measles measles is highly contagious to those who have not been vaccinated. Oh, yeah. It's also not, it's also not contagious to people who have had it.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Yeah. No, but this is, they got a big buy. Yeah, I think you're right. And here's, here's the final one. Also, ABC. The new warning from health officials about the rise and flu illnesses across the country. The CDC just releasing new data today reporting more than four million new cases in just the last week. Yeah, the agency says more than two dozen States are reporting a high number of cases that includes Pennsylvania as well as New Jersey. How high! Action News reporter Maggie can't lie for us at Belmont Plateau with advice from doctors, Maggie. Yeah, we spoke to a couple doctors today, Gray and Sarah, and they say, listen, something is going
Starting point is 02:29:32 around. You talk to anyone. They probably know someone who is sick right about now, and it's kind of a triple threat here. They're seeing cases of flu, COVID, and neurovirus. I think she says neurovirus. Penural. Yeah, wait, listen, listen. Is it too late to get a flu or COVID vaccine at this?
Starting point is 02:29:51 Oh, I'm sure it's not. Point in the season. Absolutely not. And we encourage you to talk to your doctor. Wait, stop, stop the clip. Mm-hmm. So they've already said that the flu vaccine doesn't include this flu, this influenza A that's going around that Mimi has that you have,
Starting point is 02:30:07 that a bunch of people have. It's not in the shot, but it's not too late to get the shot. Well, but you want to get the shot against COVID, and you want to get the MMR for the measles. Even though the measles isn't in this report, it's some mystical neurovirus. But if you back it up, these specifically said,
Starting point is 02:30:27 should we go out and get a flu shot? The flu shot is included in that. That includes Pennsylvania as well as New Jersey. Action news reporter Maggie can't lie for us at Belmont Plateau with advice from doctors, Maggie. Yeah, we spoke to a couple of doctors today, Gray and Sarah, and they say, listen, something is. going around. You talk to anyone. They probably know someone who is sick right about now. And it's
Starting point is 02:30:50 kind of a triple threat here. They're seeing cases of flu, COVID, and neural virus. Is it too late to get a flu or COVID vaccine? You're right. You nailed it. At this point in the season. Absolutely not. And we encourage you to talk to your doctor. Getting the flu vaccine is the single most greatest thing that someone can do. It's the single most greatest thing you can do in the universe is getting your vaccine. They just said it doesn't work. Here's another really easy thing that you can do. Dr. Wardlaw is stressing soap and water is... I got to tell you.
Starting point is 02:31:24 Listen to what, listen to this. We're never going to get to... Dr. Vaudeville. Hey, I got a million of them. Here's another really easy thing that you can do. Dr. Wardlaw is stressing soap and water is best here when it comes to keeping your hands clean because neurovirus does not... She says neurovirus.
Starting point is 02:31:42 I'm telling you... Was this some new thing they're trying to slip into the... Public consciousness, neural virus? No, not neural, but neuro, neuro, not neuro, not neuro, because it's norovirus. Noro, oh, norovirus. But she's saying neuro, listen closely. And water is best here when it comes to keeping your hands clean
Starting point is 02:32:03 because neural virus does not respond to hand sanitizers, so wash your hands often. She's saying neuro, but I like neural even better. Neural virus. If you get Noro's neural. Neural is not Noro. It's near neural. It's neuro-odontal.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Whatever. You're right. There's somebody dropped a ton of money. Paid. They got paid to do this crap. And then they're promoting the, in the same report, they say the flu vaccine doesn't work. This is an offshoot. And everyone's getting sick from it.
Starting point is 02:32:41 But get the shot anyway. Give me a break. It's fantastic. are shameless. So, y'all should be listening to this on a modern podcast app, which you can get at podcastapps.com. Tomorrow on the podcasting 2.0 podcast, we'll have young Mitch will be on the talk about Podverse 2.0, which is supposed to just be dynamite. So I don't know when it's being released, but you'll be notified for an upgrade. Do we already know about
Starting point is 02:33:08 podcasting 2.0? Do we already know about it? No, what's he going to tell us? Oh, no, about Podverse. The new app. Oh, the new podverse. Yeah, the new, everyone's excited about the new podverse. Yeah. I'm just telling him what's going on.
Starting point is 02:33:25 You already know what it's in there. What's so special? I don't, actually. I've just, he posts a lot on our, on our Mastodon about it. And it's just, he's doing a lot of stuff. You know, the big thing, okay, so here's the big thing that everyone wants to move towards. This is an interesting conundrum. So everyone is like, well, we need to do video.
Starting point is 02:33:47 We need to do video. We should be doing video. We should be doing video. We should be doing video. And they're trying to sneak in that it should be HLSS video. Why? I'm going to tell you why. So HLS is a streaming protocol.
Starting point is 02:34:03 It's actually developed by Apple. And when you, so, you know, podcasting used to be, it down, it automatically downloads everything for you and then you just play it. It's on your device. That is pretty much not needed anymore unless you're getting on an airplane. Even then, do you really need it? Because you can just click on it. You don't need to download it first and it just plays because of bandwidth. And podcasting was originally developed as a work around a bandwidth constraint. So HLS video, you won't be downloading, you know, two gigabytes of a video episode. It'll just give you what you need at that moment.
Starting point is 02:34:43 Now, the podcast industrial complex wants this because they also want it for MP3s. Why, you ask? Yeah, why? Because then for the first time, we can actually show advertisers the amount of time someone listened if they actually heard their ad. Because it will be... Hmm? Okay, I'm still listening, but now I'm wondering how is that work?
Starting point is 02:35:11 Well, because it's a streaming protocol. So if you're listening to minute 35, then the log file shows that you are listening to minute 35 as we stream that to you. And when you stop at minute 47, which is right before an ad break, we can see that you didn't listen to the ads. Do you see the difference? When you download a podcast, they have no idea if you heard the ad. They just saw you got to download. So now they're in this conundrum because they desperately, want to be able to show advertisers.
Starting point is 02:35:43 But wait, I appreciate the desire to show these advertisers or whatever, because the advertisers is so important. They run everything, so we have to do that. But how many people are going to adopt pure streaming as opposed
Starting point is 02:36:01 to download and play? It would be completely seamless to you. Because people don't even know that it's downloading. People don't even know that it's an art. Podcasters don't even know that it's an RSS feed. Oh, I just use RSS.com or Buzzsprout because they're my distributor. They distribute it everywhere. They have no idea how it works. So they don't care. Listeners don't care. You just hit the play button. It shows up in your app. You hit the play
Starting point is 02:36:28 button. No different from a modern podcast app. You get the bat signal. It says no agenda show live. You hit it. You're streaming, right? So they don't know the difference. The problem is they all want to move towards this because the advertising industry wants it but nobody really wants to do it because then we'll find out that no one's actually listening to these podcasts they're just being downloaded
Starting point is 02:36:52 and they've been reporting yes and they've been reporting download numbers for 20 years and it's going to be oh oh oh I'm sorry people don't actually hear the ads that's the problem which is exactly why we use that's why you used to
Starting point is 02:37:08 I was wondering why you used the word at the beginning of this little presentation, the word conundrum. And that is indeed a conundrum. It is a big conundrum, exactly, because the industry wants it, but they don't really want it. And so all eyes on Apple, because Apple doesn't support HLS in their podcast app. But if they do, then everyone will be doing HLS, and you're going to see the podcast spectrum go from 4.5 million to 2. Very quickly, because the money will go away. Because, of course, the... What little money there is.
Starting point is 02:37:45 Well, they say it's $2.6 billion. Exactly. Okay. That's just America. That's just America. So we don't... Hold. Homie don't play that game. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:38:02 We don't play that. We have value for value. The only way we stay alive is if you continue to support us with your time, your talents and your treasure, one of those three T's is indeed the artwork, which we are appreciative of, even though, you know, I feel it's diminished. Even though one of the two of us hates it. I never said I hated it, but okay. So, well, what happens now is Darren, you know, when don't we just create a website called
Starting point is 02:38:28 Darren O'Neill's art and just have him upload the, don't even make it public. Just email it to us, Darren, because he's the only one that gets some decent results out of of it, it seems, because we chose... Well, if you noticed, you got a very interesting result in his one, the Happy New Year one that says, Happy New Year, welcome to 20.05 or whatever it is. Did you notice that? I'm looking at the one, first I'm looking at the one from episode 1829, which we titled Zuma Vuffin. And that is, it wasn't necessarily a Happy New Year's type of artwork. Of course, we were a few days away from the changing of the year.
Starting point is 02:39:13 This was the kind of anarchist piece, which I'm surprised you allowed it, because when you really look at it, it's kind of gruesome. You got a skull in there. Yeah, well, it was all, it was playful. It was gruesome, but playful. It was complicated. Yeah, you're probably right. I probably should have vetoed it because of the gruesome. But it was playful.
Starting point is 02:39:35 It didn't bother him. For some reason, the gruesomeness did not come. come to the four. So congratulations, once again, Darren O'Neill. And let's just take a look at the other at No Agenda Art Generator.com. Well, look at the one where he did, Goodbye 2005. Is it a new one? No, it came in the same batch. Oh, okay. I see his here. Goodbye 2005. Let's see. I don't see it. Another problem. It's just so much. It's just, it's just color. I give you that one. It's just colors swimming before my eyes.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Okay. What's in the current first page. It's by Darren. So that's easier to search by. And it's by Darren. Okay. Let me just, let me search Darren. That's probably easier.
Starting point is 02:40:24 Okay. Darren O'Neill. All right. I'm looking for goodbye to those. Both fireworks. It says by, by 2005. Yes, I see it. by 2005, okay, yeah, well, and he uploaded it anyway.
Starting point is 02:40:43 How he didn't catch that was because he didn't see it. He saw, he knows what he put in and then he just, he posted it. So, so, so this is part of the problem. Yeah. This is junk being posted that even by our, the top guy, Darren O'Neill, is posting garbage. This should have never been posted. You're right. People, if you, if it's garbage, don't post it.
Starting point is 02:41:07 it. But of course, oh, this is great. This is a great piece. Oh, it's fantastic. The boys will love it. It's ruining everything. This show is ending. We're not going to make another year, let alone four more.
Starting point is 02:41:22 This is, it's, we're going down, man. We're playing AI clips. We've got stupid AI art. We got end of show mixes that are just sound formulae AI. You know, why don't we just make us AI? I would be all for it. Now, look at this. I'll just go off and do a podcast with Pastor Jimmy, who doesn't, who loves me.
Starting point is 02:41:45 Look at the pieces that are just that just came in in the second row down or so. You got the cartoon with the baby and the AI called Crying Kids by Darren O'Neill. Where did that model come from? This is a totally different cartoon style. It's also I see it on his other pieces. Yeah, bikini. It's a completely new cartoon style. Of course, if you notice the woman, this is another example of putting garbage up that Darren should not post.
Starting point is 02:42:17 The woman has three arms. Which one is that? I don't see three arms. Crying kid. Yeah. Oh, she does have three arms. You're right. That is bad.
Starting point is 02:42:36 That's just, oh, I did it. It gave me a prompt. All right, I'm good. They'll choose me anyway. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, that's like MVP who's doing the end of show mix. It's like, man, I should make, can I make them three or four minutes? No.
Starting point is 02:42:54 It's hard to listen to a minute and a half. Yeah, but listen to this. It's really good. No, it's not. It's not. Nothing is good for four minutes as an end of show mix. None of it. Maybe we should just stop with the end of show mix.
Starting point is 02:43:08 How about that? We stopped the end of show mix. Yeah, this would hurt your feelings. No, no, no, no. You do it. You're controlling it. You're the producer at the end of the show mixes. I'm the one complaining about it.
Starting point is 02:43:19 I'd be happy not to do it. As any producer would do, this is like Brunetti. He complains about the tips. Remember how this started. This started with we do an end of show clip and it would be a longer clip. It was actually in the beginning because I went back and checked. It would be like sometimes a four, six-minute clip.
Starting point is 02:43:37 It was interesting to listen to. And then people started sending these. Oh, that lasted no look very, that was short-lived. Because people started sending things they produced. And then I remember you saying, I really like it because it's kind of a nice way. The show ends and you got something to listen to. And now it's just become painful. So why don't we just stop that and just have Darren do the art and just give them a,
Starting point is 02:43:59 they don't have to change the credit every time. It's easier. Or maybe you just ask him what model he's using. you do the art you're an artist i'm not gonna well he's already showed me a lot of stuff that is quite interesting but but he he spends you know the difference is time no he it's just run his course well the album art hasn't run its course because we can't get away from that that's from the beginning right but it's all darren well you know the thing about you remember the Wait, do you remember the era of Martin J.J.?
Starting point is 02:44:38 Yes. Martin J.J. was dominating the art. Yeah. For months and months and months, and he was just winning everything like Darren's doing. And he just stood up and said, I quit. Yeah. I've been winning too much art.
Starting point is 02:44:54 It's, he, what he did is he fell on his sword. Yeah, but he's tried to come back and he's not done. He hasn't been able to do it. Well, this is like anything else. If you're in a groove and you take some time off, the groove is gone and you never come back. I mean, we had a lot of guys that were really outstanding. Pedigrew is a good example,
Starting point is 02:45:16 but he can't listen to the show. Nick DeRat comes and goes. But maybe, Darren, I'm not saying he should yet, but now that I've seen these two pieces of slop, the 2005 thing and the woman with three arms and he's posting him, maybe he should reconsider and maybe only produce one or two pieces. But then look at his bitch and moan with the Canada flag and the two buttons. I mean, that's, that's, that is Darren.
Starting point is 02:45:44 That's a good piece. Where's the bitch and moan? Oh, bitch, oh, that's a great piece. So, Darren O'Neill, we should just, just email it to us, Darren. It's easier. Then we'll have to discuss it just like, oh, Darren's great. Boost him on his show. But, I mean, it's, AI is ruining my life.
Starting point is 02:46:05 It's not ruining your life. More than you know. Everything, but people email the entire AI. Oh, I've done some research. Don't, don't send me the output of chat GPT. You've done some research. Don't send me the output of your chat GPT. Don't.
Starting point is 02:46:24 Just don't. With your m dashes. No. No, no, please don't. no it's uh everyone no Darren has to keep doing this until somebody else comes along yeah well okay we'll see Jeffrey ray is very competitive yeah but he has bad models his models aren't always good and blue acorn sometimes good anyway let us thank the people who also matter I wouldn't say only matter but also matter what happened all of a sudden people supported us this was nice
Starting point is 02:46:53 the year they're looking at their banking oh you know this time at the end of year let's give them some support. Oh, so Sunday will suck. Is that what you're saying? Well, we'll find out, won't we? But the point is, is that it seems like there was a scramble. Yeah. At the end, to help us.
Starting point is 02:47:10 To bring the show back up to speed. Of course, the books have already been closed. So this goes in the next year, which is fine with me. But the, I like it. I'm not complaining. That's for sure. I appreciate it. And it's a Hey, looking at the time, maybe we should just do
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Starting point is 02:48:23 One, two, three, four, five, six, one thousand, two hundred and thirty-four dollars. This is the best donation number you can come up with. Beautiful number. Beautiful number. Gentlemen, here is my 2025 donation. All I request is jobs karma. The original, the original jobs karma, not the one with Trump. Karma continues to come through for me. Because of this, I'm able to continue my support of the best podcast in the universe. Cheers, he writes, R.S. Bagwell, good for him. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got, how much.
Starting point is 02:49:02 Now, talking of another great note here from Little John's Candies, note, it's not from Christopher. It's from Little John's candies this time, from Somerset, California. $1.31.30 with a note. And he says, John, like I'm chopped liver. This is not my donation. This is the donation from the one. 100 plus producers that used ITM 10 plus 10 at littlejohns candies.com.
Starting point is 02:49:32 See email for detailed list of producers. Oh, I didn't get a detailed list of producers. Did you? No, I didn't get, I didn't notice. Were we supposed to thank them all individually? No, of course not. They're just, you know, they all bought, you know, boxes of candy. What exactly, this is an interesting model that we've could, that has kind of
Starting point is 02:49:50 appeared here from Little Johns. Others have done it, but I don't think ever to this extent. This is like value for value plugging. I mean, what exactly do we call this? This isn't very similar to No Agenda Shop. Yeah? I don't know if they're still alive. You know?
Starting point is 02:50:07 They left with... It's a tough... It's a tough business. Merch. It sucks, man. Merch is not what... It's tough. That's what we don't do it.
Starting point is 02:50:18 That's right. I mean, I think we tried it for one minute. Nick Fuentes, Nick Fuentes does his merch. Who's doing it? A lot of guys are, a lot of, I don't want to, Nick's not an amateur by any means. It's very professional. But at the same time, I think a lot of people, especially podcasters, are naive about the merch. They think, don't you think?
Starting point is 02:50:38 Because we right away saw this as a loser. Like, we're not going to do that. We can't do that. When you got to coordinate it, you got to design it, you got to print it, you got to, you got to, you know, if you're set up to print T-shirts, maybe, yeah, if you have to like the t-shirt spinner, your house there. You can stamp out some t-shirt. Then you don't have any of that stuff.
Starting point is 02:51:00 So it's like merch is like... Merch. Merch. Merch. No good. All right. You're up next. This is good.
Starting point is 02:51:10 And these are all Peace Prize winners, too. Yes. We ended up to year with a lot of them. Not that we do merch. We don't do merch. We just do Peace Prizes and PhDs. Yeah. It's a version of merch.
Starting point is 02:51:23 So it was, well, it's more of a premium, I'd call it. Premium. Sir Eric is naked. It's not merch because it's not taxed. Ah, there you go. That's another thing. Yeah. When you do merch, you got to deal with taxation.
Starting point is 02:51:39 Yeah, sales tax. And every state's got its own. I hate that. That's no good. No. Who wants to do it? Nobody. Sir Eric is, well, no, that's not true.
Starting point is 02:51:49 All the podcasters think it's a good idea. Sir Eric is naked and he's in, he's in, South Ogden, Utah, and he came in with $1,000. $30.26. 103026. 1036. Happy New Year to the best podcasts in the universe. Hopefully, my $1,030.26, which is 30, 26 covers the PayPal fees. Ah, got it. That's a lot. It'd be 15 cents if you sent a check. V4V came in time for the coveted international peace prize. All right, good for him. No jingles. all the best sir eric is naked all right i don't know why he's naked no that's he is sir and eric and he's
Starting point is 02:52:31 naked and that's fine by me germane c is not naked he's in o'fallon missouri sends us one thousand dollars and a hilarious note two pages from the desk of germane c night oh look at this in the this is in pen and i don't think i can read this whole thing. In the morning to both of you magnificent bastards of media secret messaging decoders. I want to start off by saying because of you two, I have further become more of an anomaly. The 18 plus years of work you guys have done has caused me to further unlock the mental shackles and bindings that I have been brainwashed into applying or manipulated, he crossed that out, into applying onto myself. In order to not make this letter too long,
Starting point is 02:53:19 which it already is. It's too. It's too. full pages. I'll just go over the bullet points of the most important parts. Origin, I started listening to the show in the late 2000s. Back around the time Adam made a guest appearance on cranky geeks. Which he never, which Adam, wait, I was never on cranky geeks. Yes, you were.
Starting point is 02:53:37 I was. The original cranky geeks when Ziff was doing it. Oh, one time, one time at the, one time, it was years, it was in the 90s, it was years before we started this show. Wow. I don't even I think it was pre-Movio or pre-pod show. Really?
Starting point is 02:53:55 Yeah. It was when you... Why was I on? You were in town or something somehow. I don't know how you even got on the show. I don't think it was that long ago. It was a long time ago because it was in the studio at the Zipf studios, yeah. Well, he says, Adam kept making jokes about Johnny Ive's voice.
Starting point is 02:54:14 I'm Johnny Ive. I've created the iPhone. I'm Johnny I. I remember that. I became hook since. have you heard my Alex Jones we got all the documents Candace I love you
Starting point is 02:54:26 you're wrong you're wrong it's all wrong the elites have gotten control to you I've listened to the show on and off I think you know what I think it's still good if you slowed it down
Starting point is 02:54:35 just a little bit um all right I think your cadence I think your cadence is off but I think the voice is still solid we got a really important emergency emergency broadcast
Starting point is 02:54:47 that's perfect that sounds that's terrific this emergency broadcast We got the John C. DeVoreg from the very famous No Agenda show. As you're speeding up again. Yeah, you're right. Okay, I'll work on it.
Starting point is 02:54:59 As I listened to the show off and on up until the end of Trump's first term, shit was hitting the fan too hard for me, and I need to disconnect from it all and refocus on my immediate priorities, mainly getting through engineering school. Then he has covades, he says. Long story short, I'm growing prouder by the day, knowing that I wasn't the only one to reach the same conclusion that the Vax, aka the curse, was total bull.
Starting point is 02:55:20 crap. I was still in California struggling through engineering school. Okay, I'm going to go down a little bit. Go down a lot. Yeah. I'm going to do something different from my request if it's okay with you guys. I don't need karma because I don't believe in it. I don't need jobs karma because I already got one.
Starting point is 02:55:36 I don't need house karma either because I have one of those as well. The only thing I could use is some relationship assistance. It's kind of lonely up here on the top of my personal peak of success. Jingles 70s rock version of 999. I have a metal version.
Starting point is 02:55:53 I don't really, I don't remember a 70s rock version. Writing up fake news? What was that? I have no idea. Wait, maybe. These are mysterious. Fake news jingle? Was there fake news jingle?
Starting point is 02:56:12 No, that I know of. Yeah, we've had, well, I'll play one for you. Lesser played Pastor Manning. If you have Manning calling Trump a chump, please use that. No. We'll do a money shot. Night name, knight name, night, no name, nobody. So he will be knighted as night, no name, nobody.
Starting point is 02:56:37 And thank you. I want to play a little bit of this 9-99 metal version. See if that's what you're looking for. It starts here, I think. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's the one. That's a ticket.
Starting point is 02:56:59 That's better than the end of show mixes. Writing up some fake news. Trying to get cheap clicks and top page views. Writing us some fake news. It's propaganda time. That's a show-up. Money shot. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:57:20 Oh, Lord. Look at that. That's a money shot. Kenne Conway is a money shot. There you go. There you go. The fake news jingles better than the AI stuff that we're getting. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:57:32 That is my point. We're just, today we're just going to end the show. We're just going to end it. No end of show. No, you got stuff planned. I heard the clips. It's no good. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:57:44 But it's, I'm getting disturbed by this. What do you mean? Well, I mean, the, Then to show little songs, there was always some killers in there that were once in a while. Yeah, when's the last killer you remember? I thought that, I thought that no agenda Christmas or whatever it was from somebody. Darren O'Neill. A couple, yeah, a couple, two, three shows ago.
Starting point is 02:58:05 It was Darren. It was Darren O'Neill. Yeah. We should just make him a partner. And bring Larry in the deal, too. He is a partner. We don't have to make him one. Bring Larry in on the deal.
Starting point is 02:58:17 It's all good. you're up you're up i know i'm up i i closed the spreadsheet uh by accident sir shug hey in comus washington he came in with six sixteen and he said his foe dittily i tm adam and john happy new year to you the donation of six sixteen brings me to another knighthood which is to be a switcheroo given to my smoking hot wife granting her a damehood in the no agenda nation And her title will be Dame Jitterbug, fixer of gadgets for the roundtable. She requests a New York strip, medium rare, source from a local rancher and a Pepsi. So you might as well wash down your beautifully cleaning steak with some poison.
Starting point is 02:59:11 She needs a deduishing and a lot of phosphoric acid, which is, I think, a tasty. Yeah, she needs a deduishing and can use a we're all going to die, little girl, jingle. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Sir Shug, aka Ford Diddley. You've been deduced. We're all going to die. Another classic, another classic. Common Or G, Cincinnati, Ohio, 34375, executive producership for you. I should remind everybody that if you donate $200 or above, you become an associate executive producer,
Starting point is 02:59:46 and we'll read your note within reason. And if it's $300 or above, you get an executive producer title. All these are good at IMDB.com or your LinkedIn profile or on the X, wherever you want to put it. Put it on your, on your, what's the blue cry, the blue sky profiles, and people will block you. That's still running?
Starting point is 03:00:04 I think so, yeah. And Commodore G says, Happy New Year from Commodore G. And then we have Jeffrey Ray, who I believe is the artist. Yes. In Madeira, the island, in Portugal, these island. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 03:00:19 I didn't know that either. Madeira Madeira. Give me a glass of Madeira, my dear? They make it very nice. People should have, I should put it on the tips. I have to give it. I should give a little lecture on Madeira sometime. Oh, by the way, we had dinner last night with the International Arms dealer.
Starting point is 03:00:40 He told me, he's in all these wine groups and everything. He said that the bourbon barrel-aged red wines are all happening now. It's the big thing. And he was on this mailing list and he said, well, actually, John C. DeVorek of the No Agenda show gave me a great tip on the Robert Modavi. And apparently this is now a thing, the bourbon-barrel-aged reds. There's a ton of them out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:08 I've noticed this too. So people who followed that tip are literally on the tip. the head of the game the other ones I've seen out there are garbage so yeah the one we recommend is the one always anyway Jeffrey Ray came with
Starting point is 03:01:24 33333 has no note I have no idea why you think you would have a note since he says in art and I'm pretty sure it's the same guy so we'll give him a double up karma that's exactly what we'll do you've got number Matthew Doolittle Raleigh North Carolina 33 33 33
Starting point is 03:01:42 Happy New Year you claim The climate change denying Zionist chills, he says? I couldn't think of a less deserving pair, considering you ride on the laurels of the almighty podcast creator Tom Green. Okay. We got a comedian. I surely hope a portion of this donation goes on to forward a video-based podcast for him on Rumble or similar platform with hyper-local focus on Ontario Canada's greatest export,
Starting point is 03:02:07 Neil Pertz may no longer exist, but perhaps Drake can employ a world-class drummer for Tom's next video. Wow, this is very cultural. To my lovely wife, Chelsea, I hope that in 2026 we continue to have more fun adventures across the globe. I am joyous that we can make it thousands of miles across the Atlantic or across the U.S., for that matter, seamlessly. I'm not sure how many thousands of miles we have traveled together, though I pray it is given us status on at least some airline. Our willingness to take advantage of cheap flights and hotels during the lockdowns carries on to this day. You are a shark when it comes to trip planning, amazing trips,
Starting point is 03:02:43 And I love you. On a sadder note, I would like to call out my douchebag friend, Alex, Who currently resides in Raleigh, North Carolina. He's a transplant from New England and apparently, Oops, I lost my place, left his wallet in Connecticut 20 plus years ago. I've listened to enough donation segments and split enough bar tabs with this man to understand he is indeed a cheap bastard. He originally hit me in the mouth so I'm deeply saddened.
Starting point is 03:03:11 John and Adam, please take this donation and hold up. onto it until such point, Nick Fuentes does one of those masterclass things that my social media keeps pushing on me. He undoubtedly would have prescribed the correct birthday to me, which is April 15th and not the 19th, as noted on episode 1756. Regardless, I love you guys and happy new year to you and your families. Well, that's one for Jay. I hope she read it, Jay. Okay, onward with Darius Gandhi, who is in Santa Monica, California. He came in with 333.3.3. and he says sending an email no we have not got the note at least i don't have it maybe you do and it should be sent of course to notes at noagenda show dot net notes at no agenda show dot net and if you
Starting point is 03:03:56 send a note to adam or myself make sure to put donation in the subject line just so it gets shuffled over to know it's all we do is send it to notes at no agenda show dot net ourselves so you might as skip the middleman uh so he did we have no notes so give him a double up Karma. Yes, we will. You've got Karma. Sir Bobby. Sir Bobby's in Amsterdam. That's in the Netherlands, 333. He says
Starting point is 03:04:25 Merry New Year from Sir Bobby, the re-doer. All right, Sir Bobby, thank you very much. Okay, now I have a Sorry, I have to keep Pitching screens. Yeah, I have Cassandra Bear,
Starting point is 03:04:40 bear, $250 and $15. She'll be a first associate executive producer. And she says that see attached docs 12, 11, 25, and to John and Adam, I don't have that, but I do have this. She needs health karma, hit it. He's Trump. He's Trump, the president. Oh, hold on a second. We haven't heard that for a while.
Starting point is 03:05:04 She sent us the word document. Her note is so big, she put it in a word doc. You didn't get the word doc? No, I don't have it. No. Oh. Well, if you recall, she and her husband have the hot muscle cars. So her husband, Mike, has a 1974 Plymouth Cuda, and she owns the 71 Dodge Challenger RT.
Starting point is 03:05:29 Those are pretty collectible. Oh, they're beautiful. She put a picture. Yeah, the head. The Cuda in particular. Their website is the hemihideout.com. And she wants, okay, so today is the day. It has to be before the end of the year.
Starting point is 03:05:47 Oh, that's right. I think she's, I think she tried to get this to us before the end. She wanted to be a dame before the end of 2025. So she'll be a dame for one of the first ones, 2020. We're going to give her damehood today and post-date it. We're going to do what Silicon Valley does. That's what you said earlier. We're Silicon Valley guys.
Starting point is 03:06:07 You're post-date your options. You're post-dated to let yesterday. It has to be before the end of the year with me now being in the bonus round of life. Looking forward to so many more donations to the show, I want to be knighted, damed. Dame Mopar of the Fort Bend County, Texas, where my husband and I rev our engines together. And apparently, she also sent in, sent us each a box or a bottle of the famous mesquite liquid smoke that you like so much. Did you get liquid smoke in the in the P.O. box? I got some liquid smoke.
Starting point is 03:06:41 You know, I'm going to have to tell people out there. You know, liquid, the collagen, it looks like it's sealed. And it looks like it's well sealed. But it's not. My liquid smoke got all over everything. In the P.O. box? Yeah. And it's made this, the post office smell like it was on fire.
Starting point is 03:07:06 She sent one to me too. I think Tina went to the P.O. box. I don't know if we have it yet. I don't know. Just certain things do not get sealed correctly. No, that's not good. Or tight enough or they don't have, I don't know, grommets, whatever. Well, Cassandra, thank you very much.
Starting point is 03:07:24 We'll look forward to daming you. And she wants hit it. He's Trump. He's Trump. The president. Everyone hug and share a secret. Can you do the hit it? Hit it.
Starting point is 03:07:34 He's Trump. He's Trump. The president Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now, everyone hug and share a secret. Eh, thank you, Cassandra.
Starting point is 03:07:51 Robert Anderson is in Austin, Texas, $250. No note, so double up karma for Robert. You've got. Double up. Karma. And I'll do this one. Barron, Commodore, Ph.D., guest, goose cadaver
Starting point is 03:08:07 Goose cadaver Goose Cadaver He's in Duren Outsrest Yes Holland 233
Starting point is 03:08:18 ITM John and I'm to finish off the previous four more years and to start the next four more year cycle May I challenge you
Starting point is 03:08:26 to another prediction or assumption for the next four years I know assumptions are the mother of all fuckups so for not my word So for now, I'll leave it that as it is, whatever.
Starting point is 03:08:39 Anyways, he spells with three S's. Thank you for all your efforts, hard time, time, frustration when John has mislabeled his clips and ISO's, media deconstruction, M5M, bullshittery. A shout out to all the producers, no agenda donating, nobility and douchebags, donate John's voice, and the Gitmo Lowlands old country community. Finally, also a promo for the No Agenda, Get Sir Drey of the empty PayPal and broken brain out of the house meetup on Saturday, January 18th. Sunday. And I said Saturday.
Starting point is 03:09:19 Yeah. And it clearly says Sunday. January 18th at Deheron von Berrigan and Dahl. Connection is protection, he continues. Thank you for your courage, sir. Baron Commodore PhD, a goose cadaver. He nailed it. Barron Surfer, Shasta Lake, California, 226.
Starting point is 03:09:44 Happy New Year, Crackpot and Buzzkill. Four more years. Now somehow the scripts flipped and I'm getting the long notes. I tried to do it for you, but you just, I was trying to do Sir Baron Commodore PhD Gouscadhafer, but you didn't get my cues. I screwed up. Yeah, you did. Because now I have to read this.
Starting point is 03:10:07 I'll do it. You want me to do it? Yeah, that would be great. Edward Saja, Zaja, Mechanicsville, Virginia. Saja. Already starts off bad. 225. Guys, thanks for all the good work you do today.
Starting point is 03:10:21 1228 is my birthday. 12.30 is my wife Liz's birthday. Please add us to the list. Well, of course, it'll be post the birthday, but you're on the list. We're in the midst of the Catholic Hanukkah celebration. What? With all the holidays surrounding our birthdays, we are Catholic. Oh, but are borrowing from the multi-day holiday of the Feast of Lights for our own week of celebration.
Starting point is 03:10:42 Please add us to the list. You're on it. A couple of other scenes show-related, John, the knife is nice. Broke a white-tail down. I got it yesterday with. Broke a white-tail, I got, hmm. Nice to use a deer. You use that knife to cut up a deer?
Starting point is 03:10:55 I guess so. Nice to use a higher carbon alloy better than 420 stainless. For the gigawatt coffee guy, Eli, I can't make that that taste bad. Normally, I can add twice the grounds to get it to be bitter, but I can't seem to do it with his stuff. I started to use it to make cold brew. It excels at that. So this is very, very difficult to make a gigawatt coffee bitter.
Starting point is 03:11:19 In Virginia, this is roasting cycle. I would say a couple of things. One, for one thing, I take another roast. I take his rose on a brevel. they have a grinding knob you turn to get a certain grind out coarse or fine. Almost everybody's coffee, you have to set it to 25 to get the drip to come out at the right time. With, uh, gigawatt, it's always 35, always, which is a coarser grind to make a finer end product. So his coffee, so he's doing something with his roasting.
Starting point is 03:11:56 He's got a roasting cycle that's slightly. different than the mainstream. No kidding. He's Eli. In Virginia, Edward goes on. In Virginia, we have the data centers. This is a great time to sit back and watch the finger pointing as nobody wants to take responsibility for getting enough power for it. We'll see what will happen when our new government tries to put her finger in it. A governor tries to put her finger in it. It would be a real win for any politician to get off the regulatory horse of NIMBY, not in my backyard, and lessen restrictions on new power plants for the supply to this industry. Yeah, because we need more bikinis.
Starting point is 03:12:33 We could go back to the old Kodgen model of the past where big power users had their own generation capacity. Lead time and power plants is long due to equipment, manufacturing, turbines, and transformers. Supposedly, you can buy and sell your place in line. Here's a good article about it, and he sends an article. Thank you very much, Ed, and you both are on the list. Yeah, whatever happened to Kodent.
Starting point is 03:12:58 Matthew Martel, there he is, in Broomall, Pennsylvania, $210.60 cents. Happy New Year. I can write a book on customer returns. We got a note. Did you get the note on customer returns? Yeah, some dude, he's like, I object because I'm a man and I order all of my blue jeans, and I order many things, and I try them all on. And when I get something, I send all the rest back.
Starting point is 03:13:25 He says, I don't have the note in front of me. should have printed it out. He says that he, he says the quality, what he's saying is the quality of the products is so piss poor. True. That he'll order six copies of the exact same Wrangler jeans that are exact same size. And only one of them fits right and he says the other five back. I confirm this.
Starting point is 03:13:49 It's the same with Levi's. I've had that happen. Same size. And one comes from Vietnam. One comes from Thailand. And they're different. the same label on the inside, but different lengths because I need long for my legs, my long, luscious legs.
Starting point is 03:14:05 Three different times in between the last show and this show, I heard people saying, I don't order from Amazon. Like, oh, I'm going to order that product. And it's like, I forget what the products were. I'm not ordering an Amazon. Why not? Because it's usually cheap knockoff junk from China. I'd rather go to the website of the, of the vendor themselves.
Starting point is 03:14:28 Same price. But I'd rather get it from them because I hate getting all the cheap knockoff junk from China. Three different people. There's a trend. There's a trend here. Something's up. Yes. Anyway.
Starting point is 03:14:42 Anyway, he says, I could write a book on customer returns, refunds, and what I'd prefer to do with them. You'd get the picture. Should I use a seraph or something? Sancerophon. Visit martelhardware.com. Use coupon code restock fee for an additional 10% off your order. And he liked the hot pockets jingle. Hot pockets. All right, Matthew. Stefan. Stefan. Stefan. Stefan. I think it's Stefan. Stefan Anders. Yes, Stefan Anders in Munich, Deutschland. Hello, Deutschland. Here's the Hoff. 20260. Sounds like something plus fees. No note. So we'll
Starting point is 03:15:21 give him a double up karma today. You've got Carma Sarcastic in Y-O-Missing, Y-O-Missing, Pennsylvania, 20-2-60, same amount, happy New Year's donation. Jobs Karma for my children and shout-out to the Ed's Tavern crew,
Starting point is 03:15:45 sarcastic of the nomad. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And we have a familiar name coming in with $200. It's Sarah the web babe. And she says ITM and Happy New Year, while you two have been touting your unaffiliated bona fides or bona fides.
Starting point is 03:16:06 Producers who listen carefully will know that you have long been in the pocket of your mega donors. Big resume. Big suburban mail order coffee and big boob! That's right. We're sellouts. Which one's big boob? Archduke of Luna. Kevin McLaughlin.
Starting point is 03:16:26 Right, right, obviously. Big resume, Linda Lu Patkin, big suburban mail over coffee, Eli, big boob. Hello. Do you do everything your big boob handlers tell you to? Why, yes. While you're at it, please shill for concurrent studio.com. That's concurrent studio.com.
Starting point is 03:16:45 We are Gitmonations one-stop shop for custom business websites and branding. Visit concurrent studio.com to see how we can make your business. online present beautiful thank you for your cause says sarah the web babe oh thank you very much sarah the web babe we maybe have a new uh participant in the sweepstakes here uh with sarah linda lupakins up she's in castle rock colorado she's one of the people who it's mentioned in the previous note two hundred dollars and she says she'd like jobs karma and says hit the ground running in the new year with a resume that gets results go to Imagemakers, Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
Starting point is 03:17:27 That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Happy New Year, signed Linda. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And we have our final associate executive producer, Bob from Monmouth, Oregon. $200. I don't see a note from Bob, so we will thank Bob with a double, up karma. You've got
Starting point is 03:17:54 karma. We're going to move it right along and thank everybody. $50 and above. It's really appreciated you guys. It really came through nicely for the end of the year, the beginning of the new year. There's Dame Rita. Sparks, Nevada, $168, and she says, Happy New Year to us
Starting point is 03:18:12 and all the producers of the best podcast in the universe. Mansour Rod in Alfreda, Georgia, 13333. Ryan Seifreed in Cincinnati, Ohio. 3.45. Love that. Dame Early Turtle, Topeka, Kansas, 103, Michael McWilliams in Gilbert, Arizona, 101, 26. Carolyn Costa, Costopolis, Costapolis, Charleston, South Carolina, $100 and $15. Forest Brinkley, North Canton, Ohio, 100. John Buell and Vista, California, 100. Patricia Worthington, I would say Dame Patricia
Starting point is 03:18:47 Worthy. The Palmetto, Bay, Florida, $100. Happy New Year, thank you. And there He is. Big Boob himself. Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, 808. And he just says it's a boob donation. He is the Archduke of Luna and Lover of America and Boobes. Jason Shepard, Trinidad, Colorado. He comes in with lopsided boobs, 8.006. Martin Cagrinos, Las Vegas, Nevada, 7777, which is usually 69, 69 plus fees. Dame Dana Carroll, Loughlin, Nevada. You should meet each other. 72-27. Nice palindrome. Svillingsvolke, Wachterbach, from Deutschland. Svillings, that sounds like a town more than a person. 67, coming from the Euros. We appreciate that. Sir 8-bit Ben is in Evansville, Indiana, and he becomes a night today. And he says, John and Adam, Sir 8-bit Ben, aka Commodore Vic 20 today, so he's already a Commodore.
Starting point is 03:19:49 Oh, he's title change. My monthly layaway plan of the famous 16. 5-0-2 ship donation has paid off, and I would like to claim my baron status. I would request approval from the Peerge Committee to claim the realm of retro-computer systems. Is that approved? Oh, absolutely. Also, can I get some jobs? Karma, it turns out that the market for 50-plus-year-old enterprise infrastructure leaders is pretty tough right now. What?
Starting point is 03:20:16 Cobol is hard? Hmm. There's H-1Bs. That's a problem. Yes. I think some car The fat J.D. is all for it. I think some karma could help me out.
Starting point is 03:20:28 Thank you. Craig, sir, 8bit Ben. Yes, we'll get the jobs, karma here for you. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Nica, karma. 6331 from Sir Waldo Chicken Caesar. It's a switcheroo for Joe Eirachi, or I race, I think, Eirachi of Scarborough, Maine.
Starting point is 03:20:49 Also please add him to the birthday list for Jen. January 3rd, he's on it. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, Small Boob, 606, Jeffrey Johnson, Jarrell, Texas, 58, double nickels on the dime from John Tucker in Omaha, Nebraska, Kyle T. Postiocque, in Hannibal, Missouri, and Andrew Morton in Elm City, North Carolina. Zachary Maywood, 55, from Los Angeles, California. Sir Prize in Yukon, Oklahoma, 54, 44, oh, Sir Duke, Sir David Fugazuto, Fugazado, Fugasoto in Kansas City, Missouri, 5432. Good to hear from you. James Fras, Parts Unknown, 5431. Bobby Bow in Bluegrass, Iowa, 50. These are the 50s we're at. Now, Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska. Nathan Noll in Netherland, Texas, Terrence Clark, in Jacksonville Beach, Florida.
Starting point is 03:21:43 Paul Contrimas, Westwood, Massachusetts. Nardes Nadenoff. Clifton, New Jersey. Fine Jersey name. Tom Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado, Timothy Kirkpatrick, and Albright'sville, Pennsylvania. Robert Dricosin, parts unknown. We've heard of him, though. Stephen Bolts, Fort Collins, Colorado, John Bryant, and Marietta, Georgia. Sir Michael in Snohmish, Washington. $50 chipping in, he says. And Eric Sink Major, it says major. It says major. That's pronunciation. it up as our final $50 donor for this very first episode of the No Agenda Show for 2026. Thank you all so much. We appreciate that. It is value for value. So we accept any kind of value that you can deliver to us. We really do appreciate the monetary support. We do not thank anyone under $50 for
Starting point is 03:22:39 reasons of anonymity, but we always see you with your $49.99s and all the other numbers, which you can set up as a very simple recurring donation if you want to. Go to noagendatendatonations.com. And and set it up anytime, any frequency. It's all up to you. No Agenda Donations.com. So we have Edward Saja, who celebrated on the 28th, and he wishes his wife, Liz, a very happy birthday. She celebrated on the 30th.
Starting point is 03:23:11 And Sir Waldo Chicken Caesar wishes Joe Erachi of Scarborough, Maine. A very happy birthday. He'll be celebrating on the third. And we say happy birthday here from everybody, the best podcast. in the universe. And there he is with his 6,502 long-term donations. He moves up the peerage ladder and moves up to Barron.
Starting point is 03:23:43 And we congratulate him for that brand new peerage. And thank you very much for your long-term support of the best podcast in the universe. Now, we have a number of. No Agenda Peace Prize, International Peace Prize winners, we're very happy to announce the following as recipients of the No Agenda International Peace Prize. Dame Mamacomicon, R.S. Bagwell, Little John's Candy, Sir Eric is naked, and Germain C. All of you can now go to Noagenda Rings.com. This is it. It's the last time. You're the last one. There's no more peace after this. Certainly no Peace Prize.
Starting point is 03:24:18 And let us know what name you'd like on it and where you'd like us to. send it to. That is no agenda rings.com. We do have one, a couple of nights, a layaway night. Chris Bartell, who says, gents with my 33-33 monthly donation since May of 2020. This hereby grants me knighthood of the best podcast in the universe. Please knight me, sir, thunder thighs, night of the PCT. That's Pacific Crest Trail for you lowlanders and Barka loungers. For the roundtable, he requests a double IPA. Huge shout out to my brother, Ben, who hit me in the mouth during COVID. Thank you, gents, for your continued service of sanity, New Year's blessings to you.
Starting point is 03:25:02 No jingles, just karma for Old Langzine. And we have another layaway night from David Winchester. Oh, it's for David Winchester. My husband reached the knighthood level of donations made through PayPal. I have attached a spreadsheet, which includes his name and callouts. He would like to be known as Knight of the Risen Loaf. and wants the original jobs and the original bomb them a jingle. Oh, I didn't have the bomb them jingle.
Starting point is 03:25:28 But first we have to do, let me see. Do we have to do anything with the, oh, karma for this first night. So we'll give them that. You've got karma. And then what did his wife want here, a jobs, original jobs and bomb them. Let me get the bomb them. I've got to bomb them here somewhere. There's a lot of, there's a lot of administration to do here.
Starting point is 03:25:59 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. There you go. All right. You remember, you remember when Pelosi's what she was talking about when she said, jobs, jobs, jobs?
Starting point is 03:26:18 let's vote for jobs it was uh what bill was it i don't remember do you cap and trade that is it that long ago yep wow that's pathetic no kidding whew all right and that they had that texan guy come i called it crap and trade oh yeah yeah yeah yeah remember that yeah and we still call it crap and trade. All right, give me your blade, man. We got to take care of these people. All right. Please step forward. Sir Shug, Smoking Hot Wife, Cassandra Fair, Chris Bartell, David Winchester, and Jermaine C. All of you have reached the coveted amount of $1,000 or more by yourself or by someone else's hand, and I'm therefore very proud to pronounce the age. Dame Jitterbug, fixer of gadgets, Dame Mopar of Fort Bend County, Texas.
Starting point is 03:27:16 Sir Thunderthys, Knight of the PCT, David Winchester, Knight of the Risen Loaf, and Germain C, knight, no name, nobody. For you, hookers and blow, rent, poison, chardonnay, New York, strip, medium, rare, source from a local rancher and a Pepsi, AA, IPA, and mutton and meat. Wow, that was so much going on.
Starting point is 03:27:37 Mutton and meat, all of you. Head over to Knowagenda Rings.com. Go take a look at those beautiful No Agenda Night. and dame rings you will be in possession of that as soon as you give us your ring size there's a ring sizing guide on the website of course it comes with a stick of a couple sticks of wax for you to seal your important correspondence with as well as a certificate of authenticity and congratulations welcome to the no agenda roundtable of the knights and dames set for this month? Let me see. We have a couple actually set for this month. The first we have to play the post-Christmas Navidat meetup from the Fort Wayne Club 33. He had a short little meetup report. Adam and John, this is Shannon co-hosting Fort Wayne. Had a good turnout and heard those drones in New Jersey are owned by the Elohim and they had a bumper sticker said this is the
Starting point is 03:28:34 bod, no agenda is the best podcast in the universe. Dame Trinity in Fort Wayne this time. Having a great time, as always. Thank you for your courage. Hi, it's Shelly. Merry Christmas. This is Jared. Happy New Year's. It's Mike in the morning. All right, Tri-State No Agenda Meetup.
Starting point is 03:28:50 This is from December 25th. Hey, this is Craig Kohler, Sir 8-bit Ben, at the Tri-State Formula Propagation Meetup 1.0 is what we called it, right? Happy New Year, John and Adam. Thank you for your courage. This is Ryan, the Loli Squire of the West Marshes in the morning. This is Isaac Turner And fellow listeners Shut up slaves
Starting point is 03:29:14 This is Chris Turner In the morning, John This is Tara Turner In the morning This is Christina Heck Hi Adam This is Angie Happy to be here
Starting point is 03:29:26 This is Seth Happy New Year everyone John skip the vinegar book I want to tell all on tech TV So I just want to let you know John and Adam We had the best waiter here Joseph St. Joseph St. Joseon
Starting point is 03:29:38 Hello? What do you think about? the podcast we tried to explain it to you i think it's really interesting and i want to hear it thank you in the morning well that's one way of doing it that's even better i like it a lot yeah hit him in the mouth right then and there there is a meetup coming up this saturday's the sonoma wino country meet up uh that's epa and oh edition number eight 3333 pacific time victory house sports bar and restaurant in santa rosa california uh in the month of january we've got raleigh north carolina Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Charlotte, North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana,
Starting point is 03:30:11 Berndahl in the Netherlands, Alfreda, Georgia, Oakland, California. You can get tickets at no agenda show. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I thought I was one of those comedian podcasters for a moment. No, there's no tickets required. These are meetups that you can go to for free. Everyone always does that. We'll be appearing at Raleigh, North Carolina, at Chuggles.
Starting point is 03:30:30 We'll be in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, at... Give me another bad comedy name. Yuck Yucks. The Yuck Yucks. And we'll be doing our patented product. Prop comedy in Charlotte, North Carolina on January 15. Tickets available at the website. At the armory.
Starting point is 03:30:44 These are just no agenda meetups. And when I say just, that means there's no admission. You just come on in, you hang out with people who listen to the show. You meet children from other lands. You will make connection that gives you protection. All of these people will immediately be your first responders in an emergency. Go to no agenda meetups.com. That's where you can search by date, by location.
Starting point is 03:31:05 And if you can't find one near you, you can start one yourself. It's all free and it's very easy to do. NoagendaMeetups.com. Wow, man. Then we have our end of show, I said. I only have one today. I don't think it's that good. It seems like you've got a lock. You've got five of them, something like that. Three, four. Here's mine. All reality. None of it's scripted. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't think it's all.
Starting point is 03:31:52 Okay. Well, I'm mixing, mixing matching. I got some real ones. Okay. Which I'm sure you'll appreciate. Yes. At least try. I always do. How about, let's see, we've got, uh, uh, uh, uh, incredible.
Starting point is 03:32:08 Incredible. A little short, not bad. Do you think a little short? A little short. Okay, how about, I'm kind of thinking with the other real one. Let's try, okay, let's just go from the top to the bottom. 2026.
Starting point is 03:32:22 Great show. Happy 2026. Usable. Fab. What a fab way to start the new year. Thanks, boys. It's condescending. What? Yeah, I found it to be very condescending. What a great way to start the new year. Thanks, no, condescending.
Starting point is 03:32:47 Sex. I don't like her. That show is better than sex. Okay, now you're talking. Now you're talking. But the mm was pretty pathetic. Like, really? That's her like, mm, better than that. Mm. Mm. Mm. That show is better than sex. I'll just start it there.
Starting point is 03:33:06 If I just started there... I like the mm-in there. I don't think you're wrong about this. You're wrong. All right. What's your last one? That was the last one, wasn't it? No, you have weird.
Starting point is 03:33:17 Oh, okay. There's a little weird. It's weird. It's bizarre. It's not normal. No, I think we'll do it. That show is better than sex. I really don't like them.
Starting point is 03:33:29 Is that supposed... Did you promise? it and say sexy girl no i put i wrote it out in um all right everybody it's time for the very first tip of the day for 2026 create advice for you and me
Starting point is 03:33:48 just the tip with jcd and sometimes adam okay so this brings me to this has actually been discussed on the show before it's not an official tip but it is now Now, Philip J. Corsos' book, The Day After Roswell. Yeah. Hasn't this been a tip of the day before?
Starting point is 03:34:09 No, it's never been a tip of the days, but it's been discussed. And the reason I bring it in this, look it up, maybe I'm wrong. It could be a repetitive tip. I've done this before, but I'm pretty sure this was brand new. And the reason, the reason I'm doing it is because of the new documentary on Netflix, which is called, not Netflix, I'm sorry, Amazon. I think Amazon has it What Amazon or Netflix
Starting point is 03:34:32 One of the two have it It's called the age of discourse Or the age of bullsons Is that age of disclosure? Is it the age of disclosure? Yeah So if you pay your subscription You still have to pay
Starting point is 03:34:45 15 bucks to watch this thing Wait, what's it called again? Age of disclosure No what I mean, Corso? The day after Roswell Ah, yes Okay I'm listening
Starting point is 03:34:58 So the reason I suggest the book is because you think they'd be talking about this book, which we've discussed extensively. They'd be talking about this book on this, the age of disclosure. The age of disclosure is supposed to break the mold. It's being banned. Nobody wants to see it, even though it's the most popular documentary ever posted on Netflix, I think, or Amazon, one of the two. They're making bank on this thing. And all it consists of is a bunch of people sitting down and saying, yeah, yeah, we're pretty sure that, yeah, there's life outside there.
Starting point is 03:35:36 We, we, we, we've seen, I've seen, as, yep, I've seen some wreckage and, yeah, what about you? Yeah, yeah, there's gonna, there's, there's, there's, there's some aliens there, and we've seen them out there and they're coming in, we don't know what they mean, what they want, we don't know anything about it, but yeah, I'm pretty sure, pretty sure. What about you? Oh, you know, there's a sauce. some wreckage. It's just, it's ridiculous. So just read this book. This book goes way deeper. It's much more interesting than this documentary. We have mentioned this book on 17 different episodes. Now, make it 18. Talk about recycling content. I'm telling you. Oh, you're still on that. There he is, everybody. It's the tip of the day. Know what's your fun.com. Tip of the Day.com.
Starting point is 03:36:27 with JCD And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Burnett Oops, ow, that hurt That didn't mean to do that There's been a lot of engineering This past
Starting point is 03:36:39 30 minutes Or more Woo, everybody How did we run so late? I don't know We got to talk We're supposed to be done at 2.30. I know.
Starting point is 03:36:51 I don't know what happened. You know, it's because we love doing the show so much. We love giving people as much value as possible. How about that? Yeah, that's it. I think more importantly, we work on the holidays. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 03:37:08 We may grouse at each other, but we still work on the holidays. Well, that's just because I'm grumpy. Yes, because you're sick. I'm grumpy. Go out with your Alex Jones voice. All right, everybody. We got excellent end of shooting mixes. Right, right.
Starting point is 03:37:25 They're all against the elites. They're going to, it's all done by Silicon Valley, AI, AI. It's all the end of the show. There we got Darren and Larry, the Planet Rage coming up next. Those guys are good. Those guys are good, booster. Coming to you from Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 03:37:42 And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's raining. I'm John C. DeVorak. We'll be back on Sunday. Join us here, won't you, for more media deconstruction. Until then, adios, bofos. A hooey, hooey. And such. Clap, clap, clap, clap!
Starting point is 03:38:00 Oh! Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ooh! Hey, John, I was right. Let's say it again. I'm the champion of where and why and when. From the very first second, I had the lead. You knew I was right before the proof was decreed.
Starting point is 03:38:17 It's a general rule, the universal law. I saw the wind that you never saw. Hey, JCD, I was right. Yes, I was right. I was right It's a wonderful feeling A glorious sight Stand here and whisper, I was right
Starting point is 03:38:32 Say it high, say it low Say it mightily I was right alie I'm not bragging I'm just hey John Right Right right right right correct Do shoo do da
Starting point is 03:38:48 Wham Hey John, am I right To do that the Wham As a medical doctor by training, we are on the brink of another global health crisis. The disinformation, Global Health Resilience Initiative, from measles to polio. Because every square centimeter of our territory must be protected. One incident may be a miscarriage, two incidents and coincidence.
Starting point is 03:39:25 But three, five, tenth, gray zone campaign, gray zone campaign. Too often I hear that Europe is late to the AI race. I strongly disagree. The AI race is still warming up. Our eyes on the goal. As a medical doctor by training, gray zone campaign. Our eyes on a goal. As a medical doctor by training,
Starting point is 03:39:56 Gray Zone campaign, our eyes on the goal. We're staring at the screen with a blaze over eye, well, X, and M, Tick-Tock track with dopamine high, it knows I like the sugar, it knows I like the salt, if I'd buy it from Amazon, well, it isn't my fault there.
Starting point is 03:40:15 How can my brain, the limbic high, and turning every little craving into gold, they can find my amygdome. is shouting just one more click While the billionaire's wallet is Getting more and more thick Oh, it's limbic capitalism Producers, don't you see
Starting point is 03:40:37 You've got a direct wire To the lizard inside us They're selling us the outrage They're selling us the fear And I'll pay it with my focus Till it all disappear or not like it or not oh it's limit capitalism honey don't you see they've got a direct wire to the lizard inside me they're selling me the outrage they're selling me the fear and i'm paying with my b4 b till it all disappears so put down the cookies and the doom scrolling fee
Starting point is 03:41:20 Shut down the lizard, let logic take the lead. The no agenda show is the antidote, my friend, to the capitalistic cravings that never seemed to end. Don Best School of Podcasting rules. The best podcast in the universe. Mopo Devorac.org slash N.A.
Starting point is 03:41:57 That show is better than sex.

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