No Agenda - 1834 - "Swarm Forge"

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's the point of keeping it a big secret? Adam Curry, John C. DeVorey. DeVore. It's Thursday, January 15, 2026. This is your award winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination Episode 1834. This is no agenda. Cutting through the crap and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country right here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where nobody's surprised that President Clinton told Congress This is pound salt. I'm John St. DeBorak. Is Crackbott and Buzzkill? Is it pound salt or pound sand? Well, he's pound in salt. They said, we're not going to testify.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You can't make us do that. Yeah. It's pretty interesting. Steve Bannon in jail and Navarro in jail. They threw all these, when the Democrats are running things. And then once you know that it's Comer's committee. Oh.
Starting point is 00:00:59 What do you think? going to happen. Yeah, nothing. Pretty much nothing. Nothing. The guys do nothing. Yeah, it's amazing. It's unbelievable. James Comer is the biggest do-nothing I've ever seen. I mean, I'm still waiting
Starting point is 00:01:15 for the Hunter Biden stuff. Well, we're connecting the dots with the banks. We see the crime family. You know, zip. Nothing. Well, in Congress, it's not even their job to do that.
Starting point is 00:01:31 This Justice Department, I don't see why anyone puts any faith in Congress to do any kind of, any, you know, locking people up. It's not going to happen. And there was a period of time, if you recall, when I think the Republicans held Congress, but the president was Obama. And they, and what's his name? The attorney general, the black guy. Holder. Holder comes on and he says, and he gives him a bowl face. lie about some one thing or another about where all these missing weapons went to the cartels in
Starting point is 00:02:06 Mexico and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna get to the bottom of this and we're gonna and then they they asked he sent in a referral so he could be in contempt of Congress for not answering some questions nothing nothing came of it you seem surprised no I'm just going off are you just going off I'm just going yeah I'm not surprised at all I've been hearing this for 18 years, everybody. Of course. I mean, where's my 10,000 sealed indictments at? I gave up.
Starting point is 00:02:37 There's another one. We've got your, that guy disappeared, of course. He stopped talking. I gave up one. Yeah, 10,000 seal. Who is that guy? What was that guy's name? Judge Knapp?
Starting point is 00:02:49 No, is Joe DeGenoa. What, yeah, whatever happened to him and his wife? Do they still do a podcast? She got indicted. They were in the 10,000 indictment. I don't know. Joe degen de jane Yeah, he'd come on
Starting point is 00:03:04 We have tons of clips of him coming on talking about Oh, tomorrow, it was always tomorrow It wasn't like he pushed it off for a year It was tomorrow they're going to release 10,000 sealed indictments Here, let's see I have Let me see, what's a good one?
Starting point is 00:03:21 I think this is a good one Oh wait, I have an ISO What is this? How many sealed indictments there are More than 100,000 That was Hold on We need
Starting point is 00:03:33 DeGenua Here we go Here's DeGeno So we should see a report By the end of the summer Are you hopeful? I am a little surprised By the notion
Starting point is 00:03:43 This is when he was Talking through his microphone And John Durham is going to publish a report Before filing criminal charges That's really fascinating to me When I was an independent council Of the United States Blah Blah Blah
Starting point is 00:03:59 I don't want to hear him anymore. This sound is too bad. I guess, does he do, you know? Maybe he's dead. Well, let's not make fun about dead people today. It's been a bad week. Let me see. Does he have a podcast?
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah, that would be it. Believe me, if he had a podcast, we'd be listening to it. Joe, the American Spectator? Nah. No, he has no podcast. I don't know what happened to him. He's just gone. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And they pulled him from his assignment. Somebody do a wellness check. So you already talked about in the newsletter, but we are, obviously, mourning the loss of Scott Adams. Yes, he was a friend of the show. For sure. And he didn't plug the show as much as he could have.
Starting point is 00:04:52 He never plugged the show. I don't think he ever plugged the show. Did he ever plug the show once? I think once or, I know a couple of times he mentioned the show. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's right. That's right. But you just say Devorak and Curry. He wouldn't even say no agenda. Thanks, Scott. Yeah, it was stuff like that. But there was a number of things that were, you know, and there's all these tributes. And they were all well deserved. I mean, the way I saw it, and I've known him for, guess how many years? You have known him for 32 years. 33 years.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Exactly. 33. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. What does that tell you? Uh, sells you something's up. So, um, so he, he had, there's a couple of things that came about. I mean, I knew him early on and then I lost track of him for about a decade. I hadn't seen him. And then I started seeing him again. I last time I, when I, well, you interviewed him for the show.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yes, we did for the show. Yeah, we should repost it. We should repost that for sure. Yes, I was thinking about it. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It should repost it. And, uh, it brought a lot of stuff out.
Starting point is 00:05:58 But he was. A couple of things that people never got to know about him. One, he was the, I think he was the harder, he's a hard worker. He was just a killer hard worker. He was, even when the cartoon was largely canceled, he kept writing Dilbert. Yeah. Which took a lot of work. He did about five books and he did a, he did about 50 cartoon books.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And do you remember when, when he got canceled and then he had this arm problems and he couldn't, he couldn't draw? and he did all kinds of things to figure out how to still make the cartoon? Yeah, he had a lot of physical issues that came and went. Yeah, I remember the car. He couldn't draw for a while. Kind of sucks as a cartoonist. Yeah, but he got over it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And a couple of things that you should know about him. One, he did not really like people. No wonder you two got along. Amazing. He didn't really like people. He said to me once, he said he doesn't have respect for people. And the reason was he says because everybody is so susceptible to suggestion that they can be easily manipulated. And he went on about this.
Starting point is 00:07:12 He had this preoccupation with this manipulation thing, which brings me to the commonplace that he was a trained hypnotist. Yes, as he often said. Yeah, because he was a big believer in repeating stuff until it became true. there's no evidence of this. Who trained him? And who does he ever hypnotize? Dude, you're going to kick the legs out from underneath the dead guy? Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Don't do that. I'm protecting you here. Don't do that. A couple. Okay, I won't go on about that. But if anyone likes his cartoons, then I have a couple of panels. Luckily, I elected from years ago when he drew,
Starting point is 00:07:55 actually drew the cartoons, not on the computer. He, that he got fired. The story about him getting fired is fascinating. So he was a bureaucrat type. He was not an engineer really, even though he became one at Pacific Bell. He was a Pacific Telephone.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Pacto. Pacific Bell. Pac-Till. Pack-bell. He was a natural engineer. He was, he had the mentality of an engineer. That's why he felt he could engineer everything. And so he worked at Crocker.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And Mimi's actually the one who helped him get his job at Crocker when she worked there. No way. What's Crocker? What's Crocker Bank. It used to be a famous bank in San Francisco Bay Area. Scott worked there. Wow. How did Mimi hook up with him?
Starting point is 00:08:44 She didn't. He was hanging out with a bunch of pot smokers. Oh, comics. Comics, you mean? No, no. No. But he was hanging out with some of the girls that worked at the bank. And he was a pot smoker.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Hey, girls, want a lid, want a cup of lid? He was a real heavy-duty pot smoker. People have to realize that. Oh, yeah. We connect deeply on that. And he wasn't a secret. No. And so he worked at the bank and then I don't know how he lost his job there because
Starting point is 00:09:14 she was already gone by then. And he ended up going to work for Pack Bell. And he was just doing system stuff. in working on the computers. He got on the web early on. First guy ever showed me the web. Because I visited him at his offices. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:09:33 How did you meet him? I don't know the origin. Oh. I can't remember. It was 33 years ago. I can't remember how I hooked up with him. I'm over there and he's shown me the web. And so he,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and then about three years later, after I, after that about 96, I think he got, they fired him from Pack Bell. And the story behind that is quite fascinating. What happened was they brought in some, because Scott was not doing a lot of work at Pack Bell, but he was famous for doing Dilbert because Dilbert was a huge hit during that era when he was at Pack Bell. And so the salespeople from Pack Bell would use Scott as a foil to get appointments. he was their go-to guy
Starting point is 00:10:25 for the sales team and so they say well you know we'd like to meet you about to do some sort of whatever business the phone company does but they do a lot of business obviously and we'll bring Scott Adams and Dilbert we got him he works for us oh yeah sure yeah I didn't want to have the meeting
Starting point is 00:10:42 but now I do he always was thinking past the sale that was one of his big things thinking past the sale so he was used as the guy the bait for the sales team at Pack Bell, and they were just rolling and dough with this guy. A guy comes in who is, they just hired the guy, and he's going to do what do you do
Starting point is 00:11:06 when you go from job to job to job to job to do to check see if these people are doing anything. There's a word term for it, somebody in the chat. Yeah, a Fed. No. If we call that a Fed, in business speak, he's a Fed, man. He's checking to see if you're doing the job.
Starting point is 00:11:20 There's a term. There's a term for this process, and it's work analysis or something. I haven't been in business for so long. I can't remember it. So they brought this guy in to do efficiency analysis, and they go through one person after another, and the guy gets to the guy. He figures, this guy's not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:11:40 NARC. Maybe it's a narc. Call him a narc. And so they fire him. Because this guy comes in. The guy, this was unbeknownst to the sales team. And so Scott is out. And so they freak.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I remember you telling me this. Yeah, I remember this story. They freak out. And they try to get. And Scott's out now for about a month before they put two and two together. They try to get him back. But he looks at his cash flow and he says, I don't know. I had to go to the office.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Screw it. He never goes back. And so he stays out for good. And the guy who fired him was. depicted in his earlier cartoons, if anyone goes back to his cartoons, there's one guy with a full short facial beard. That guy, he's got a complete facial beard and black hair,
Starting point is 00:12:35 and he's kind of a shorter guy. That's the guy who fired him. Auditor? Sorry? An auditor? No, no, not. I'm still trying to think of the name for that position. There's a word for what he did.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's the same guys that were in. If you watch the movie Office Space, there's two guys who come in to check on the employees. Okay. So he has that guy in the cartoons for a while, and he's always an A-hole. He finally dropped him because he wasn't really a good character. The other one I know,
Starting point is 00:13:14 there's the woman that's in the cartoons who has the triangle-shaped hairdo. Yeah. I actually shatter with her. ended up working at Cisco. This is so deep, man. This is great. It's a lot of in the weeds stuff. People like hearing that.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I mean, I went to his, he had a chain of restaurants for a while that was Stacey. He was financing this woman, Stacy, and the restaurant Stacey's. I went to lunch there a couple of, once at the one in Pleasanton and met Stacey. And I think he had a crush on her, but she was just using him to finance the restaurants. He was not good at pulling the birds, I hear. He was not really good at it. Well, you know, I don't think he, I never could figure that part out, but he was funny. He had a dry, odd, super dry sense of humor that was quite, uh, efficiency experts?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yes, exactly. Thank you, trolls. Who said that? Who was that? MVP. Oh, all right, Mark. Yeah, efficiency experts came in and this guy was the efficiency expert. he hired him and about three months after the sales guys made a fuss they fired him he got fired
Starting point is 00:14:28 the efficiency expert yeah of course get rid of that guy wow that's amazing so you know so scott has a is an interesting was an interesting person and he it's a shame that he uh well you know you and i had a little chat about it and you said something very interesting it kind of just relay that Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of convinced of this, which because, well, it's based on one of my old stories, but yeah. Well, I had this thesis, and it's not a thesis, it's something that everybody does. If you're a motorcyclist and you're on a dirt trail and you're bouncing around it and you see a big rock. You know what's going to happen if you keep looking at the rock. You look at the rock, you hit the rock.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Like this is the, this is, you, you always look where you're going, not what you don't, what you're trying to avoid. If you're trying to avoid it and you look at it, you'll hit it. And it, this is the same thing with driving a car. And it turns out, because I was talking to Brunetti about this and his wife, Alex, says you do the same thing with horses. Huh. I don't know how that works. My horse is going to stumble. Well, you don't look at what the horse is going to hit.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You look at where you, you look where you're going. Yeah. And I mentioned that. Mimi and she says, yeah, because she's a horse, she rides horses. And yeah, you do, you don't look at, it's the same thing. And Scott Adams was so preoccupied with, with suggestability. Yeah. To an extreme.
Starting point is 00:16:01 He basically was looking at the rock all his life. Yeah, the shoemaker's kids have no shoes. And so he, so because he was so preoccupied with this, he was, and believed in it so much that he himself was suggestible. And the only reason that came up with this is because he was, he sounded okay on his podcast until he went to the radiologist. And the radiologist said, put your affairs in order. It's over, son.
Starting point is 00:16:31 The radiologist and Scott said it had no good news. I'm cooked. And, and he did not sound the same. He sounded like he was cooked. Yeah. Yeah. The radiologist, the radiologist had suggested to him that he was through, and he took this, because he's always looking at the rock, he hit the rock.
Starting point is 00:16:59 That's just the thesis. I don't know, but I did notice the difference, and within five days he was done. We got a lot of, because people know about the connection between Scott and the show, and I just wanted to read one or two notes. Mitchell Reeves. He says, in the morning, with the passing of Scott Adams, I felt it was important to tell you both how much you mean to me. See, this is what people do. Like, oh, crap, what if those guys go away?
Starting point is 00:17:26 What am I going to do? How much I, yeah. Yes, and they should. Yes. I'm 32 years old, 33 in one month with a wife and two young daughters. I'm approaching my last semester at law school. I work full time, go to law school at nights, but this guy's busy. The two of you, as well as Scott Adams,
Starting point is 00:17:45 have been with me the entire time and given me something to look forward to and have also helped me feel a lot less alone. It gives me a bit of escape from the stress I'm under right now. I always tell people my non-negotiable can't miss podcasts are no agenda and coffee with Scott Adams. I can say with certainty that I am better because of your show. Of course, I don't want to make it about us,
Starting point is 00:18:04 but I just thought that was interesting because I got a lot of those. I don't know if you got any emails, people saying, you know. I got a few. And based upon I'm not going to, recycle content. Based upon his last words, which his ex-wife read, Pastor Jimmy and I had a conversation about whether he's going to heaven or not based upon his accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savior. And one of our producers said an interesting note. He said, one of the persuasion tips, Scott Hammerdown, was thinking past the sale. Thinking past the sale was not about
Starting point is 00:18:43 whether he was going to heaven, it was whether Jesus was real. And it seems like it's one of those last, very Scott Adams type thing to do. And you can listen to the podcast to hear us talk about that. But a lot of people got really excited.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Like, yes, he accepted Jesus on his, the deathbed conversion, we call it. Yeah, I always thought of it when he did it is a, why take a chance? Well, that's basically what he said. Yeah, and that's the way he always was. Yeah, what have I got to lose? But the problem was he, his logic was, because he was a natural engineer,
Starting point is 00:19:22 was to overthink everything. This is why he got the Vax. He was overthinking, for one thing, unfortunately, being suggestible himself, he believed that the propaganda about the, without question that came out of the government about long COVID and it's dangers and all the rest. This is what during that era where if you touch something, oh, you can pick up COVID from touching things. And so he bought into that and he was very adamant about it.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But his earlier mistake, and I think I pointed this out on the show before, which irked him to no end, was his decision, but through his own logic, and I can still see him doing this on the black. board. He is his whiteboard, actually. And he had, where's the origins of this come from? And he had two choices. He broke it all down on the blackboard. And one was the, was the virology lab that investigated coronavirus
Starting point is 00:20:26 in Wuhan and the wet market. And through some screwball logic, which I never could understand, he says, it's so obvious to me that it's the wet market. Well, he later rescinded that. Well, yeah, sure. Yeah. People are yelling at him. No, man. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Don't do that. Yeah, he's pretty good at, he was very good at resisting people yelling at him. So, because he was very, very, very, very, yeah, well, yeah, but he was also, he was, he got into trouble once. about 20 years ago and there was some back and forth that was going on online. I had to chat with it. I talked to him over the phone about it because I had a solution and I
Starting point is 00:21:18 told him how important it was he had to fix this because I had gotten into a online mess years earlier. Yeah, with the Mac people. They hated you. Well, no, it was something that he said on. It was something I said on when CompuServe had these forums, we had
Starting point is 00:21:34 ZD's net or something on there and it was, I had taken a stand on some stupid thing. You were taking a stand against social media in the early, early days. No, it was about something. I was about some product. And I had one of the, a friend of mine called me up and said, you got to stop. And because he says, just getting out of control, just apologizing, you'll be good to go.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And so, which is the same thing I kind of told Scott. And I did. And it just ended. Oh, crap, he's not arguing anymore. Go figure. Let's move on. There's just a lot of argumentation that people like to do. They just like to argue.
Starting point is 00:22:16 You know, speaking of the Vax and choices, just to pivot a little bit for a second, because I think we've discussed Scott and we miss him. He was good. It was fun for podcasting. Oh, he was a great podcaster, natural. And I was always, envious is not the right word, but I always thought his simultaneous sip was a genius podcasting thing. It was a gimmick.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It was a good one. It was a great gimmick. That was really good. So, RFK Jr. sent a letter to Germany, a stern letter, I'm sure, sealed with his night ring and sealing wax. And it's about a similar topic. Hi, I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. your HHS secretary. Welcome to the podcast, everybody. These guys are all doing podcasts now.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'm Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., your HHS secretary. Today, I want to tell you about a letter that I just sent to Germany's federal minister of health, Nina Warkin, because what's happening in Germany right now demands a clear public response from the United States of America. We don't know why, but... I've learned that more than a thousand German physicians and thousands of their patients now face prosecution and punishment for issuing exemptions from wearing masks or getting COVID-19. vaccines during the pandemic. When any government criminalizes doctors for advising their patients, it crossed the line
Starting point is 00:23:43 that free societies have always treated as sacred. In my letter, I explained that Germany is targeting physicians who put their patients first and punishing citizens for making their own medical choices. The German government is now violating the sacred patient physician relationship, replacing it. Where was he during COVID? Did he speak up during COVID about this? No, that I know of. I can't recall.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's a dangerous system that makes physicians, enforcers of state policies. Your health is no longer your doctor's priority onto this system. Your doctor instead is serving the welfare of the collective as determined by unelected technocrats with no medical training. Anybody can see the danger in this system, No democracy grounded in confidence and transparency should move in that direction. Patients must always have the freedom to make personal medical decisions without coercion or political pressure.
Starting point is 00:24:45 That principle forms the bedrock of every democratic nation. Okay. Well, we're going to remember you said that, RFK Jr. I'm not quite sure why he's doing this other than to get people to smash that like button. It's just like, okay, well, I would. I wish we had had that voice of yours in 2020, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2021, and his voice sounds better, actually, and I think about it. That sounds, you could hear him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And it's better. So another person died. You only know him because we got some donations because of him, Robert Jensen. Yeah, he's one of your buddies in Holland. Yeah. And I would say one of my friends. Uh, certainly, maybe I talked to three people in Holland still, excluding my daughter. And, uh, he had a massive heart attack on, uh, on Monday at 52.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Mm. And it's just like, oh, man, you know, I, during COVID, he called me up because he had a, a TV show. It was a fun interview, kind of like a tonight show vibe with, you know, people sitting and chairs and and he's interviewing, but he was funny. Like, he had a bit of letterman in there. He was a good guy. And he also came when I was still in downtown Austin, in the apartment. He came by and interviewed.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He was doing the whole thing about Trump. And during COVID, his TV show, they wanted to renew him. He said, no, I don't feel like doing it. And then we were talking. I said, well, man, why don't you just do a podcast? And he said, yeah, but, you know, advertise. I said, no, just do value for value. And he was a very, very successful value for value podcaster.
Starting point is 00:26:35 He really did a good job. And although he added merch, which I said, why are you doing? But he was making the t-shirts in his house. So he had, you had that. Yeah, I guess if you want to be a hobbyist, you'd be merch in your house because you got a little room. Whenever he came out with a new hoodie or something, I'd order it. And he was a good guy.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And we hadn't spoken for a couple months. It was, which I'm, I guess I'm sad about because he wanted to, he asked me to come back on and say, yeah, I said, but I can't do it now. He said, what? Are you, are you mad at me? I'm not mad. I'm just busy. I got other stuff going on. But he had also, he had interviewed David Ike.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And he had taken such a right hand turn. And his whole demeanor, I found to be depressing. Like Ike. You got to be an Ike. an Ikeite? Yes, an Ikeite. An Ikeite. Yeah, and like, you know, nothing is real. We don't exist. You know, lizard people. It's all energy. You just happen to see it now. And it was, it was just, it went really far with that. And it didn't look like he was happy about it. So I'm sad that I didn't get to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:27:50 But a lot, you know, my phone's been ringing all morning. I see you Dutch M5M. I'm not picking up. Like, oh, area code, it's country code three. I'm not picking up. Oh, please, we want a statement from you about Robert. No. I despise that when people do that. So anyways. You give them a statement and say,
Starting point is 00:28:12 you'll give them a statement if they plug the no agenda show. Come on. Oh, what was I thinking? I'm so sorry for that huge no agenda show audience. Yes. Well, actually, Holland is. We got a big audience. Yeah, Holland is.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But they know. They already know. And then, you know what, they'll cut that out. if I say you say well no agenda show they'll cut that they don't they don't no you have to tell them you have they have to put it in it doesn't work like that you you talk for 20 minutes they do a 30 second sound bite I know how they do it but you wind up hating it you wind up hating it and Robert would have hated it too okay well you're it's your decision I can't believe it my friend died you're bummed the fact that I didn't take
Starting point is 00:28:53 advantage of the opportunity to promote the show I guess that's terrible. You're the best. Well, let's make this solemn agreement. Whoever dies first, the other one will use the opportunity to promote the show with whoever's left and Darren. Darren. Don't say that Darren will find some way of shooting us. So, but that is life, people.
Starting point is 00:29:22 That is life. And, yeah. Well, that's interesting. I can't imagine him with just having a meeting with David Ike and then going south. Oh, he totally bought into it. And we both like Ike. You know, I guess I like I. He's done a lot of really interesting stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:40 But he was, you know, in Ike's world, this is just forget about it. You know, the elites. Has Ike ever cracked a smile? Has Ike ever told a joke? Has Ike ever laughed at anything? No. The guy's humorless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:55 well, that was the direction I felt Robert was going. He would smile. He would laugh. But everything was just like, you know, it's like, like, like Ike has given up. You know, it's like he'll still write books and do his tours and everything. But you can't help it. You can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Trump is one of them. They're all part of it. You know, they're all laughing at you. Oh, I didn't know Trump was one of them. Oh, yeah. No, Trump is going to bring in the CBDC and the digital ID and the LML and the AI. And it's over. And you just got to go sit at home.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And it's just coming. Just, you know, it's like, so, you know, no, no, yeah, you're right. Missing a bit of the humor. And when Robert started, man, it was, he was funny when he started with the, with the podcast. He said some really, and I'm like, outrageously funny stuff. Anyway, so there you go. The older you get, the more they drop by the wayside. So on that happy note, the astronauts are back.
Starting point is 00:30:52 The SpaceX Dragon Capsules splash down. the San Diego coast around 340 this morning. His new video showing the four-person crew leaving the hatch. Their mission to the International Space Station was cut short due to a medical concern with a crew member. Officials have not explained the concern but confirmed that astronaut is stable. So of course we still don't really know who's pregnant, but it probably would be the one female who returned because that is the show thesis. On Deutsche Welle, though, they brought in an analyst.
Starting point is 00:31:23 This is the NASA groupie. and he did have something relatively interesting to say. Well, NASA is bringing a four-person crew back from the International Space Station due to medical issues. It's the first evacuation of its kind. US, Russian and Japanese astronauts undogged from the station after five months in space. NASA has declined to disclose which crew member has the health problem or give details about the issue,
Starting point is 00:31:49 but the US Space Agency has stressed that the return isn't an emergency. It's great to welcome Keith. cowing back to DW, his editor of NASAwatch.com. Hi, Keith. Now, this is the first medical evacuation from the ISS and it's 25 year history. We don't know what the exact medical problem is, but it's evidently serious enough to cut the mission short. How are you reading into this? If somebody, and I don't know who it is or what's wrong with them, if someone was really, really sick, they could have been home in a matter of hours. They just get the suits on, push a button, and come home. The fact that it takes
Starting point is 00:32:23 a few days and they're all happy and smiling makes me think that if anything, it's probably something as simple as they don't have a cat scanner up there. They have a lot of medical devices and medicines, but there's some medical gear that you just don't have in space and do adequately help this person. The smart thing is to bring them home. And they're more less at the end of their stay up there. So a lot of work has not been
Starting point is 00:32:47 sacrifices as a result. What is an apology? This is not an emergency. It's just, Just expedited or quick or a short end to a long trip. Who cares? Very suspicious. I think you're spot on, man. And notice the black guy stayed behind. He didn't leave.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Just saying. Got some jungle fever in space. I don't know. That's pushing it. I mean, it's possible. But whatever the case was, I'm sure, I have, see, the question I'd be asking if I was a reporter in this situation, I'd say is it, I would have asked the pregnancy question right away.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Of course. But I also would say, is there anything that anyone has assigned to refrain from sex when they're, because this is an interesting question that people would want to know. Yes. Do you have to, do you sign a document, an NDA of sorts that says you have to refrain from sex while you're in the space station? Do you have to, is there anything like that that signed? do you have to agree, especially if you're a female to not have sex.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Okay, you get a waiver from HR or something? I mean. While you're in outer space because they don't want anybody having sex in outer space because they don't know what the results would be for the baby and there's all these issues. And if you get pregnant, you won't fit into the suit. I mean, that's the thing it seems to me. Thank you very much for the art, a Combixtre blogger.
Starting point is 00:34:17 We'll be thanking you. Yes, a comic strip blogger, he nailed it. He nailed it. With a pregnant girl in a pregnant suit. We deserve an answer. I think we should know. This, you know, this great expense, we brought them back. It's not cheap.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And they're going out of their way to avoid saying what it is. Why? What's it a hangnail? Is it a toenail? Ingrown toenail? I mean, what's the point of keeping it a big secret? Somebody got, you know, have some ulcers. I mean, what could it be?
Starting point is 00:34:49 upset, Tommy. Something's wrong. Yeah, we deserve answers. Well, let's just stay with health and pharma for a second. There is a massive ad campaign underway right now, which is both explicit and native. Here is the ad. The new week OV pill is now available through Weight Watchers.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Finally, powerful GLP1 results in a simple pill at the lowest price available. Get doctor support, personalized nutrition programs, and side effects. management all in one place. I can't imagine being on a GLP one without Weight Watchers. And Weight Watchers handles the insurance for you and offers affordable cash pay options. See if you qualify for the WeGoVPill at Weight Watchers.com slash TV.
Starting point is 00:35:37 It's amazing how Weight Watchers, which literally had a program with points and it was about how much you eat. What you ate, how you ate, and meals. The whole thing was all about natural. weight loss. How do you lose weight? You do this. You do that. You exercise.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You do that. Now, oh, dear, take this pill. We'll co-sponsor it. And what? And we remember Oprah, now this was a year ago, maybe even longer. I think it was longer. She's a shareholder in Weight Watcher. She was on the board.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And they decided, you know, maybe we should just hop on this GOP1 bandwagon. Well, she had quit by then, hasn't she? She gave up. If you recall, she left the board and she donated her shares, which is a huge tax write-off. She donated her shares to some nonprofit. And now she's back. And, of course, she shows up on CBS with her BFF, Gail. Oprah reveals how she went from blaming and shaming herself to transforming her health.
Starting point is 00:36:47 The book is co-written by Dr. Anya Yasturbov. She's the founding director of Yale Obesity Research Center and an expert in obesity and GLP-based medications, GLP-1-based medications. We're very happy to say that Oprah and Dr. Anya are here in the studio with us. Good morning, good morning, girls. Good to have you here. Hi, Dr. Anya.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I wanted to share, because I've always, when I discovered something that I thought was important for other people, I always wanted to share. Yeah. And I remember doing a show many years ago, and Janet Jackson was on it had lost weight, and I said, if there's ever a pill, I will be the first one to tell you about it.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And so now there actually is a pill, but more importantly than a pill is understanding that obesity is a disease. And if you have this chronic disease, it is not because you are overeating. It's because you have the disease that causes you to overeat. And I did not know this until... What's the bacterial agent or viral agent that causes this disease? Is you going to get technical now? I'm just asking, disease is... We know what the definition of disease is.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's something that's caused by a viral, a bacterial agent, or some parasite, perhaps. Well, that depends. It can be dis-ease. You're just at dis-ease. Oh, it depends on how you-dis-ease. Oh, yeah, you're not at ease. Yes. Oh, I get it. Dis-ease.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And I did not know this until 2023. For so long, when I was raised, we always thought just willpower. Because I was at Weight Watchers and got my key to success three times and thought, Now I'm done. Now it's just a matter willpower. And you're saying, Dr. Anya, no matter how much you do and how much willpower you think you have, that is not enough. So now I realize that I'm on the medications and will have to be on the medications if I wanted for the rest of my life. Because I did a whole year last year from my 70th birthday until my 71st birthday, I tried to be without the medication.
Starting point is 00:38:43 You stop taking. I stopped taking it. And what happened? Because I wanted to prove you wrong. I want to say, you are wrong because I have reached the weight, the gold weight and I can fix it. And what happened is I gained three pounds and five pounds and seven pounds. Oh, no. Were you eating more food?
Starting point is 00:38:57 No, I wasn't. No, I wasn't eating anything. You're drinking water. Six miles a day. Doing all the things. Managing. And still gain weight. Over Christmas, I gained eight pounds.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And then, you know, so I thought, maybe you're right. Maybe the science is right. And I got back on the medication. The science. The science is right. And along with that comes more native. advertising. Listen to this report. Weight loss medications like Wagoe
Starting point is 00:39:20 and OZempec have changed the game for people looking to... Notice how Wagovi is now first. It used to be like OZempic and then there'd be all the other ones. Now Wagovi, who are the ones footing the bill, they're the ones that are first. Duh. They're the ones that are first.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Weight loss medications like Wago v. and OZembek have changed the game for people looking to shed a few pounds. However, new research shows people who stopped taking the drugs could see an increased risk of diabetes and heart disease. The study published in the British Medical Journal reviewed the trials of more than 6,000 adults who use GLP-1s and other weight-lossed drugs. The results are a cautionary tale, as people who went off the meds regained weight almost four times
Starting point is 00:40:03 faster than those who simply stopped exercising or didn't stick to a healthy diet. That rapid weight gain then had a domino effect on overall health, as people then had an increased risk of developing conditions like high cholesterol and high blood pressure. Doctors say the findings point to how these medications are not a quick fix, and anyone looking to take the drugs should consider the long-term effects. Yeah, and otherwise you take it, you can't stop taking it. But this is good news, according to CNBC, Wall Street is happy. Airlines are going to, headline, airlines will save big money on fuel
Starting point is 00:40:40 as new weight loss pills gain popularity. Yeah, that's not a native ad. That's a good one. Literally, I mean, these guys are so shameless. Wall Street is finding an unexpected beneficiary of America's weight loss boom. Airlines, with the first GLP1 weight loss drug now available in pill form, Link. Analyst said Jeffrey say broad adoption across society could quietly lower fuel bills. I'm all in.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I think it's also going to save on pavement under traffic. There you go. you won't have to pave the road so much because all these fat people won't be driving there's a lot of benefits well that's only if we get it on Medicare only then only then will it's this is all this push is coming again
Starting point is 00:41:30 we got to get it in we got to get it in it's a happening got to get it make the insurers pay for it everybody it's all good it's fabulous so that was your native ad of the day There's a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:41:47 They have to stop. Kennedy, you brought him up earlier. Oh, he's bitching the moment. He had Germany. Who cares? What they do. And Canada did it too, by the way. Didn't say anything to them.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Why doesn't he say something about this, about these advertisements? He was one of his things. Stop letting these guys advertise on TV. Yeah. And that would include native advertising. Well, it clearly doesn't because they're not doing any disclaimers at all, at all. In fact, I think I had a...
Starting point is 00:42:22 Actually, you're right, because Native advertised more effective because they don't have to do the disclaimers. In fact, I think I saw a report, which we didn't talk about on the last show, that the FDA, yes, where was this? The FDA said the weight loss guys can take off the warning that it could cause superiors. suicidal tendencies or self-harm thoughts, as we call it now, because there's no evidence of it. The FDA, FDA was saying that to the weight loss people. And I'm still waiting for, for the erectile dysfunction benefit. It's a common. Yeah, yeah, this is, I don't think they're going to need to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's the rabbit out of a hat. Once it goes there, man, boom. Boom, we're all good. Give me that stuff. So I got a disturbing email conversation this morning with boots on the ground. And it pertains to this particular story, which of course really has nothing to do with X other than the UK doesn't like people being able to speak out freely on X and have that flow through everywhere in the UK. We can't have that. Here's the report.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And I'll tell you what the boots on the ground. report was. Facing pressure from governments around the world, Elon Musk is reigning in his controversial AI tool, GROC. On Wednesday, X announced that it would no longer generate undressed images of real people in jurisdictions where this is illegal. It was a welcome development in the UK. By the way, we called this. We called this right away. This is a big feature. Put a bikini on or a big feature. Where GROC and X are under investigation for generating sexualized deepfakes of women and children. If UK watchdog offcom determines the platform has broken the law, it can find X for up to 10% of its global revenue.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I have been informed this morning that X is acting to ensure full compliance with UK law. If so, that is welcome, but we're not going to back down. We will strengthen existing laws and prepare for legislation if it needs to go further. The limits imposed on GROC's image generation came hours after California prosecutors also opened a probe into the chatbot. Amid backlash last week, Grok limited the ability to create AI images to paying subscribers. But this was far from enough for women's rights groups who called for X and Brock to be removed from app stores. Listen to this definition.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Decrying this new widespread form of sexual abuse. We are really imploring Apple and Google to take this extremely seriously. They are enabling a system in which thousands, if not tens of thousands of people, particularly women and children are being sexually abused through the help of their own app stores. So this is now sexual abuse. Yeah, and this is really about all the bikini pictures of Starmer. That's definitely part of it. It's not about any kids.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Put a bikini on their little kid. No, let's put a bikini on Starmer and they keep doing it. There's any sits there talking. Some of the Starmer stuff's hilarious. I have one clip about something adjacent to this. Well, can I, can I get my boots on the ground before you move on and move off the topic? Maybe this adjacent clip might add to the boots on the ground.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Okay. Ava, your buddy. Oh, but you actually clip that? I was like, this is F-A-F-O. It wasn't surprising to me. Well, we'll play it. I thought it was surprising to me. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:46:04 She was out there protesting with Tommy Robinson. Okay. I won't play the clip. No, we'll play it. No, no, no, I want to play it because when I, you know, people, of course, 50 people sent this to me, tagged me in every post. I'm like, what do you expect? Well, I have never met the woman. Well, she should be your friend. So I just got an email I didn't expect. I have officially been banned from traveling to the United Kingdom. I'm not allowed to enter the country. Actually, I'll just call it what it is. What she did here is engagement farming.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I mean, if you're going to go out there and into the UK, which is not part of the EU anymore, in case you hadn't noticed, and you're going to say, hey, you guys suck. Kier-Starmer, you suck. And then you're, we do that here. We do that here. I mean, it's like if you want to come in and we see that you say America sucks. Okay. You all, you played the important part of the clip. No, I want to play anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I want to play the whole thing now. Because the UK government on their Kirstarmer deems my presence in the UK. and I quote, not conducive to the public good. I don't know what that means since when is being conducive to the public good a requirement to enter a country. I mean, especially... You're undesirable is what you are. The United Kingdom, where, if I'm not mistaken, thousands of illegal immigrants. Oh, okay. This is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, yeah, but all the illegal immigrants could come in, but I can't come. This is engagement farming. Enter through the channel every day. And you got to do... That's what she does. She's good at it. You got to do it in your car. That's the best.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Why don't we do this show from the car? I am in the car. Every day, nobody's asking them to be conducive to the public good, but I cannot come. And now this email came out of the blue in a sense that I didn't apply for an ETA now. I went back in September to join the Tommy Robinson Valley where I spoke. Yeah, there it is. And I'm planning. I was planning, I should say, to do that again.
Starting point is 00:48:06 In May, guess not. Guess not. And now the timing is quite suspicious, isn't it? Suspicious. It's, hmm, hmm. I'm just asking questions. She's the Key.
Starting point is 00:48:15 She's the Candice Owens of Holland. Because three days ago, I posted this about Kirstarmer, calling out his hypocrisy that he wants to ban X because of women's safety whilst at the same time he's the one who's allowing these migrant gang rapes to happen. Obviously, he's just doing that
Starting point is 00:48:35 because he wants to ban. and free speech. And that is also the reason why I am now not anymore allowed to go to the UK. But it's pretty, it's pretty dystopian. I mean, it's a very severe limitation of my freedom. And as it says, no, I cannot appeal. I cannot appeal. I'm not convicted of any crime.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I'm not under suspicion of any crime. They just decided. Kirstarmer just decided that someone like me is not welcome in the UK. Yes. Well, yes, you're a troublemaker. And you're hanging out with troublemakers. and they don't want you there. And by the way, why do you care?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Because it's so great. It's cold, it's wet, the buildings are ugly and cold. You don't want to go there. There's no reason for you to go. But you want to go to Herods? Well, all you see is Muslim women all over the place. It's not fun anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I love the... Now you pick up some pretty good jams at Fortinum and Mason. Well, you can order those online. Yeah, but you know, the price of... Shipping is ridiculous. So one of our producers who's a dude named Ben at Grock says, and this was an interesting back and forth, he says, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I just reached out to you, okay? It's regarding sexually explicit images of minors being created by Grock on its own. He says, he claims, without evidence. Without evidence. Despite prompts explicitly requesting the opposite, I have photos and screenshots and copies of prompts. Currently, Elon says, all of the explicitly sexual content is being generated because of user prompts. I have proof that Elon is absolutely wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:14 My response was, do not, repeat, do not send me anything. Do not have any of this so-called evidence on your device because that is a very dangerous situation because they'll be used against you. And Elon indeed is saying, what do you say here? I'm not aware of any naked underage images generated by GROC. But wait, what's going to be used against you again? If you have, if you have a prompt saying put a bikini on this kid? No, no, no, no. He says that there are underage minors that are being depicted by GROC in a sexual way.
Starting point is 00:50:55 So I said, I do not send me any pictures. That's what I said. I learned that from you. Oh, you're so. I'm missing up who's talking here. Yeah. And I say you shouldn't have them either because that will be used against you. Get rid of it. Yes. And this is the reason that I've said this before. I'll say it again. You get a 22 terabyte hard drive. I don't know if you ordered yours.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I did. All it does is collect all the evidence against you because we don't do any cleanup anymore. When I was a kid, we had a hard disk. It was a nine, nine mega. bite hard disk and you'd clean it up because you'd run out of room and so you'd go and take old files off. No, nobody does that anymore. You just accumulate everything you've ever done. It builds up and builds up. And then when the FBI takes the hard disk, there's definitely something on there that shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Always, always, always. There's always something on that shouldn't be there. Meanwhile, there has been a change, although this is funny window dressing, I feel. Keir Starmer has announced the digital ID, well, we've got a change in mind for that. The government has confirmed that it is to scrap the compulsory element of its flagship digital ID scheme, which was supposed to deter people from travelling to the UK to work illegally. So Keir Starrmer unveiled the policy last autumn as part of a crackdown on migration. But in the latest, in a series of U-turns, the government has announced that workers will be given the chance to use other forms of ID to verify their eligibility.
Starting point is 00:52:29 What a trap he said. This is great. Oh, okay. It's not going to be used for that. Oh, I'll just might as well get it. It's easy. I never know it was going to be used. I thought it was just going to be used for surveillance. No, well, duh, but they were selling it. The whole selling point was if you don't have a digital ID, you can't work. And now it's like, well, we're not going to make it like that. So don't worry about it. You might as well just download it and use it. It's going to be fine. It's a trap. It's a trap. Are they going ahead with this? Oh, yeah. Of course. Idiots.
Starting point is 00:53:05 That's fantastic. It's great. So Johnny Ive and Sam Altman, this is all the rumor mill, you know, the Chinese factory spy. Johnny Ives. Johnny I. I'm Johnny Ive and I invented the iPhone. So, you know, there's this long rumored open AI device
Starting point is 00:53:25 that people are talking about, which of course is necessary, because Open AI is falling behind, in my opinion, behind, certainly behind Gemini. Now we just sign the big Apple deal. Do you think that Apple is going to get paid by, like the way they were paid by Google to put Google search as the default? That's what I would do.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I would do it too. So apparently Open AI to go, code name SweetPee, it'll be a little tiny little thing you put behind your ear. Okay. A little egg-shaped case right behind the egg. I guess they're going to use bone induction. Then it will be your assistant in daily life.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So as you're looking at somebody. Oh, my God, if there's anything in the world I don't want is that. Some little thing carping at me about one thing or another. Move away. This guy's no good. very low credit score. Move away, move away. The low credit score I had. Yeah, that wasn't bad enough.
Starting point is 00:54:34 The War Department has launched its AI acceleration strategy to secure American military AI dominance. I won't even read it to you. It's so dumb. More AI in the war department. Swarm Forge. Here. Some of these names are cool.
Starting point is 00:54:53 In war fighting. Swarm Forge. Competitive. Why a SwarmForge doesn't even make any sense? Well, let's listen to the definition. Competitive mechanism to iterate, discover, test, and scale novel ways of fighting with and against AI-enabled capabilities. It sounds like they hire somewhere from Silicon Valley to write that copy. Combining America's elite war fighting units with elite technology innovators. Yes, I think you're right. Swarm Forge.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I want a badge. I want to write that. down swarm forge swarm swarm then we have agent network unleashing AI agent development and experimentation for AI enabled battle management and
Starting point is 00:55:37 decision support from campaign planning to kill chain execution this is what kill chain execution yes oh this is Silicon Valley talk then we have the ender who the hell got in there from Silicon Valley
Starting point is 00:55:53 with all this gobbly gook Google I think mainly. Ender's Foundry. Enders Foundry. Accelerating AI-enabled simulation capabilities and SIM-Dev and Sim-Ops feedback loops. Sim-Dev. To ensure we stay ahead of AI-enabled adversaries.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Then we have under-intelligence. That was all war fighting. Now, under-intelligence, open arsenal. Who comes up with these? They're not very good. And, yeah. Open Arsenal's no good. No.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I like Swarm Forge, though. I like that. I don't know why you like that. The wording doesn't make any... Swarm Forge. The whole thing doesn't make any sense if you think of the two words. I think Swarm Forge should be an Eagle Scout badge you can get. I got my Swarm Ford.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Show title. Put it down to the list. No, I wrote it down. And then, of course, the last thing on the big tech agenda, was the big outage, the big outage. And good evening. We begin tonight with the nation's largest cell phone service provider in the middle of one of the worst outages ever. Customers across the country unable to call, text, or scroll.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It's kind of like Iran. As the company scrambles to get fully back up and running. How pathetic are we as a nation? Let's just listen to it. Yeah, here to go. Customers across the country unable to call, text or scroll. Oh, no, my life is. over. I can't call, text, or scroll. Oh, what am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:57:32 As the company scrambles to get fully back up and roll what? Huh? Well, scroll what? I can scroll. Not when the... Yeah. Please, please, let's not go through this loop again where you tell everybody that you're great on the computer. You got a desktop and you can scroll. People don't even have... No, no, I can scroll on a phone with Verizon being out. What are you going to scroll? You're like a text? Like, just like, just like, Like, there's stuff on the phone to scroll. Look at this map.
Starting point is 00:58:02 These are just some of the most populated areas of the country and the hardest hit by the outage. This is what many customers saw today on their phones, the dreaded SOS, meaning no bars and no service. Oh, no, it's dreaded. City officials from New York to Charlotte to D.C., even warning that impacted customers might not be able to get through to 911.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Now Verizon is racing to fix the problem and find out what exactly went wrong. Brian Chung is following all of it for us tonight. Well, Brian Chung, guess who would they blame? It's almost like us blaming Canada. I don't know who. Would they blame Putin? I don't know. No, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Tonight, the major meltdown for the nation's largest wireless carrier. Did it at this time. Verizon customers across the country cut off by a massive network. outage. The trouble began around noon Eastern time with the outage tracking website Downdetector.com listing New York, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami as among the places with the most reported issues. Emergency management teams in multiple cities warning that people may not be able to call 911. If you have access to a landline, use that. And if that is impossible, go to a police precinct or go to a firehouse.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Verizon customers taking to social media expressing outrage. that they couldn't contact loved ones. Baby, this is unacceptable. Or steak. Great Nat Pop. Connected for work. Verizon, counter days because I literally had to stop at Starbucks. Verizon telling NBC News that their team was on the ground actively working to fix the issue,
Starting point is 00:59:46 adding that we know this is a huge inconvenience. The company did not provide a reason for the outage. Verizon, with more than 146 million wireless customers, often promotes itself as the most reliable network with its famous catchline. There's only one best 5G. You hear me now? But tonight, the advice from officials for when you can't. It's also a good reminder for people to have an emergency plan,
Starting point is 01:00:13 to have backups, plan A, plan B. Yeah. Ham Radio is your backup. Ham Radio. Have you seen the new bow fangs? The new what? The new bow fangs? Uh, no, I haven't.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Oh, man, they're completely digital. They got a huge, still 35 bucks. Still 35 bucks. It's so cheap. It's still 30. And you can get 10 watts out of them, which of course is outside of the realm of legality, according to the... Well, that's not too good for your health of this, most your head. Yeah, well, that's true.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So, anyway, I have other clips, but it turns out it was a software glitch in New Jersey. Okay. What kind of world are with the internet, everything? it's also centralized. This is not how we designed it, John, you and I, and we sat down. We're not going to, but we shouldn't design this this way. The whole idea of the internet was designed to withstand a nuclear attack. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:10 That was the idea. That was the plan. Let's set up a network that you could do whatever happens. You can bomb New York City with a H-bomb. And the network would still be going because it goes from here. And if it gets blocked here, it goes around. and it goes over there here, then it goes around. And so when did that change to like three nodes?
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah, that's what it is. Although, you know, I have the galaxy, new galaxy phone that I got, the flip phone, because I need to do real business. So now I'm tracked. But it does, it is one of those phones that can talk to. What real business are you doing that you need to be tracked? No, not tracked. I need to be able to communicate with people who are on iPhones.
Starting point is 01:01:55 You can't do that with your other phone? If you don't have an RCS compatible phone, which is the, it's supposed to be the hybrid so that, you know, iPhones and Android phones can talk to each other when you're texting, the chances are that your message won't come through will get missed. You get kicked out of a group are very high. Oh, no. Yeah. So, yeah, I have a business.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I'm running a business over here. It's called Godcaster. You know that. I guess. So Godcaster requires you to be in the network to be tracked. Well, no. It requires me to be able to communicate with the worst communicators in the world, which are pastors.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Oh. Yeah. So. But by default, then, you get tracked. Of course. Let's just have a second phone. What difference does it make? Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:50 All right. Thanks. Well, because you can drive around without the second phone. I'm not driving around with my phone. When I'm driving, I'm driving. I'm not on my phone. I'm not texting people. I'm listening to podcasts.
Starting point is 01:03:04 That's why I'm imagining you on the phone, texting while driving and then holding the phone up to your ear and yelling at somebody. I barely drive. And then just missing an old lady in the street because you weren't paying attention. Yeah, this is what I'm seeing. I'm visualizing it. I don't even drive. There's nowhere to go.
Starting point is 01:03:22 H.E.B. is three minutes away. I'm not a driver anymore. I'm just an old coot doing a podcast. Thanks. You've got me, finally. You go to San Antonio. Oh, yeah. Big trip to San Antonio. Woo!
Starting point is 01:03:41 Big smoke, everybody, going to San Antonio. Yeah. No, the two big trips I make her to the hair girl and to Rogan. That's about it. When have you done Rogan last? Yeah, it's been a while. Hurting the show. Oh, please.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Go do Rogan. I've been on Rogan six times. Hey, we got to do. donation today, I was just looking at the notes. And somebody credited your visit to Megan Kelly for the donation. That happens. Yeah, I think that's great. She's also not burning down the phone here.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Well, she doesn't, you don't even like her. I do like. I like her a lot. But, you know, I'm not in the circle. Remember when I was, the last time I was on and she bumped me like five times for Glenn Beck? Because, you know, what happened? Something happened.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Yeah, you called her after her Putin. hate. You look like a Putin apologist. You're in the list of Putin. Puttinas. That's what it was. Yes, you're right. Yeah, well, my mistake. You and Putin, you guys, you should get a room. All right. All right. I know you got some clips, but I have to play this because there's a big change. Big change. Big thing happened. For the first time since we've been doing the show, since the IPCC,
Starting point is 01:05:01 was the Paris Agreement, I should say. It was no, 2025 was no longer the hottest year on record. This is amazing. Global temperatures in 2025 were slightly lower than 2024, but that still makes it the third hottest year on record across the globe. The third, the third. The top 10. A study by the Met Office and European climate scientists also found it was the third year in a row
Starting point is 01:05:31 in which temperatures reached more than 1.4 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. Dr. Samantha Burgess is the Deputy Director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service. She told me what this all means for the planet. Yeah, so the key findings from this year's report was that 2025 was the third warmest year on record after 24 and 2023. The global temperature anomaly was 1.47 degrees above the pre-industrial average, which is an average of the global climate before significant. human impact on the climate from burning fossil fuels. And 2025 marks three years above 1.5 degrees.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And this is important as we're now 10 years on from the Paris Agreement, where almost every nation committed to lower global warming, to well below 2 degrees, and ideally below 1.5 degrees. So it's working. You could also report, wow, it's working, everybody. Everyone's driving electric cars and it's fantastic. And we're now down to number three. This is classic what you just said.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah. You can report it any way you want. You can report it as a good thing or the reversal. And you could actually, I think that's the mistake. They just made it. They made the mistake. They should say thanks to our efforts. Electrolizing, electrolyzing.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Electrification. This and that. This is working and it looks like things may be going in the right direction. No, no. They don't do that. It's gloom and doom, no matter what. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. Yeah. All right. What you got? And I'll let you go. Because we got a bunch of stuff. I wanted to get, you know, I think this deportate, the Sudan clips, which I had from Al Jazeera.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Oh, this is not widely reported. No, it's not. You know, Trump is decided, you know, their Trump administration has decided to ship people to Africa when they deport them. Okay. And so now the big move is the ship into South Sudan. All right. And so there's some background on it.
Starting point is 01:07:37 This is, I guess, three clips. Four actually is interesting. Yeah. Well, you have two Sudan number two. So it'll be interesting to see which one I have, I'm supposed to play. Are they the same time? No. One is two minutes and one is one minute and five.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Okay. One of them is obviously the third. Yeah, obviously. Which one is what we don't know? well we don't know let's play the intro we'll play the intro first and then we'll figure it out clip one yeah these are democratic values that you remember stephena that we're hard fought for and blood was shed for us to gain independence and for us to gain
Starting point is 01:08:11 this democracy that we are seeing fail at this moment so we must stand up and say no we're not going to what is happening here what is going on okay he starts i mean had this i couldn't start i couldn't play the whole it was a half hour So he's going on about Sudan being a democracy. Who? Who's going on about Sudan? Some, one of the, one of the Al Jazeera Sudan experts. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And so he's going on about how they can't put up with having a bunch of people shipped there from the United States where they don't know anything about anything. And they're not Sudanese. And so it just starts off as a rant. And it resolves itself as the clips continue. And these are democratic values that we remember, Stephanie, that we're hard-fought-for. And blood was shed for us to gain independence and for us to gain this democracy that we are seeing fail at this moment. So we must stand up and say, no, we're not going to allow our leaders to get into these agreements without consulting us the people, without consulting civil society. And worse of all, in a swatini, without consulting parliament, who actually has the sovereign right, according to the Constitution, to scrutinize whatever agreement.
Starting point is 01:09:25 our executive gets into. Absolutely. I'm picking up on that point. There are also a lot of articles I was reading, really underlying the racist tone of this from the Trump administration. Now, more and more African content creators are expressing frustrations over why their continent is being used for these deporting schemes, like this gentleman on TikTok. So what, we're just dropping them off?
Starting point is 01:09:46 We're just flying them over there and dropping them off? Well, we intend to what I can tell. Okay. And so basically we're spoken, and the agreement, the way I understand it, is that we're not just dropping him off or we're putting them in prisons over there. And then the Sudanese will have to deal with him whatever they want to do. They can take them in and they can kick them out or release them to. I mean, this is, it's almost comical. But let's start with the two-minute clip.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Well, the situation of this deals around these deals, ads. further complexity to South Sudan already fragile environments in illustrating how external powers may exploit vulnerability. And this is something that many people are expressing about South Sudan. It's a country on its knees. It's a country that is facing multiple humanitarian crisis. So is this something that they're taking advantage of so they can dump these men, so to speak, in those terms?
Starting point is 01:10:49 Because there's not much the government can do or they want the money. I doubt if it is just the money. Because the countries are not really uniform. There are countries where people actually could get some small money. But the people behind this decision in South Sudan are very wealthy. And actually, they got into a problem because of corruptions in the past. And they had been sanctions by the U.S. And they were hoping that if they could do a deal like this,
Starting point is 01:11:15 those sanctions might be lifted or at least some he's on those sanctions from the U.S. So it's a bit different from a country to a country, but the fundamental similarity is really the vulnerability of the countries that are being targeted. Yes, we heard that there have been countries who have rejected this, and they're not sending them to Italy or to Malaysia. Melisi, Trump is not the first U.S. president to carry out deportations. We saw it under George W. Bush. We saw it under Barack Obama.
Starting point is 01:11:49 but he's doing it in a very different way. Why is that? I think, as I mentioned, L.S. FNA, they are parading what it means to an American. And it goes back to this conversation around bolstering their exceptionalism. Because they can see that their power is waning around the world. Nobody is taking them as serious as perhaps they would have post Cold War. And I think they are now using these deputations as a sort of a whirl poem to say it costs so much to an American. And it's going to cost as much to get into a trade deal with us.
Starting point is 01:12:19 This is really risky to play all this Africa news this early in the show. They might hurt the show. Well, it's so funny that the idea of this, I think everyone's missing the point about shipping these guys off to God knows where Africa. You know, you got a deportee and he's like a bad guy. And so we're going to ship him, drop him off in Africa. This is not like sending him across the border, kicking him off the, you know, kicking him in the butt on the Mexican border and saying, out of here. No.
Starting point is 01:12:51 This, this, there's a couple of interesting historical aspects. Eisenhower deported a bunch of people and shipped them all to the Yucatan Peninsula, someplace where there's nothing to do there. What kind of people? Were they illegal immigrants? There was Mexican, you know, Mexicans, but they were, they put him, sent them to a part of Mexico that they're not from. And it was like a pain in the ass when they got there and how to get out of here.
Starting point is 01:13:16 and so then if you recall during the era of the show, the British wanted to send their guys off to Rwanda. Yeah. Which I thought was funny. Yeah. And so we're going to ship you, you know, coming here illegally, you're going to Rwanda. And so what, which is kind of a,
Starting point is 01:13:35 the whole idea is to discourage people from coming in. Yes. From coming in because you're going to end up in the middle of nowhere, Africa. And then now what are you going to do? How do you get out of there? So, you know, that's kind of the thing, whether you get thrown in a jail or not. It doesn't matter. Just drop them off.
Starting point is 01:13:53 So I find it to be kind of interesting. And they're not doing it, though. I mean, there's a, except for the jail. I hadn't even heard about it. I don't know why Sudan is all upset. I haven't heard the president out there saying, we're shipping you off to Sudan. I haven't heard you saying that. This has been going on.
Starting point is 01:14:09 It's been negotiating. They're trying to do a deal with the South Sudanese government. Oh, okay. Pay them money. We're going to give you a couple hundred bucks per guy. And we're going to drop these guys off. You're supposed to put them in jail, but you can do what you're supposed to put them in jail, but you can do what you want to give us a crap.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Basically, what we're hearing on Al Jazeera is a bunch of Sudanese Democrats who hate Trump. Basically, that's what you're hearing. Yeah. But the fact that this kind of stuff is going on in the background, to me, seems at least amusing as hell. We all got news that the United States deported some of the values. criminals, as they call it to some of our African countries, they deported some to Eswatini, they also deported some of them to South Sudan. Why is it that whenever they want to dump their stops or they want to dump anything, and now that it has to do with these violent criminals,
Starting point is 01:15:06 the best place that they think they should deport these people to East Africa? Why is it Do we do with their expired drugs? Like I said before. Expired drugs go to Africa. They will start coming for our videos. They will start flagging us and all of that. But why? Why is it that?
Starting point is 01:15:26 Why not? They always think that all the bad things should always go to Africa. When they want to carry out their test, when they need human beings to use like guinea pigs to carry out their test, their trial processes, it's Africa. Bill Gates. What's your reaction to that? Do you feel the same way?
Starting point is 01:15:43 Okay. All right. So now finally we come to the end of the series. Okay, and there's something in here. This is a WTF clip, which means there's something either particularly odd or is particularly funny. Daniel, I want to broaden this out at this point. When we talk about immigration, migration, of course,
Starting point is 01:15:59 this is due to a lot of social and economic reasons. But, you know, many are also now talking about climate change. There is going to be more and more migration from areas, like Africa, for example, to further north, because places are simply going to become uninjointed. Inhabitable. Haven't you heard? Last year was number three on the list. It's going down. It's okay. All right. That was your Africa news. Please let me play your Iran killings clip unless you have a different Iran clip. Do I have any Iran clips? Yeah, Iran killings right here. Iran killings. Okay, let's play Iran killings.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Flight if momentary posture shift from the president's escalating threats against the Iranian regime over the past few weeks, that's as anti-Iranian regime protests have grown. as has the regime's crackdown on protesters, with horrifying footage of bodybags at Tehran's morgues, now showing us a glimpse of that bloody crackdown as authorities have also blocked the internet off there since Thursday. And President Trump has in recent weeks said that help is on the way at one point, saying that the U.S. is locked and loaded and ready to go, urging protesters to keep protesting. On Monday, the U.S. State Department urged Americans to leave Iran, but now President Trump saying he's been told on, quote, good authority that the killing has stopped. Take a look.
Starting point is 01:17:17 We have been informed by very important sources on the other side, and they've said the killing is stopped, and the executions won't take place. There were supposed to be a lot of executions today, and that the executions won't take place, and we're going to find out. This comes a day after President Trump warned of a very strong action in response to reports of the regime hanging those detained during the protests. He says he's watching Iran as the Pentagon today withdraws some troops from a key base in Qatar, echoing a move. taken before U.S. strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities back in June. Yeah, I question this 12,000 killed.
Starting point is 01:17:52 To me, this feels like an EU move. I question all of it. I mean, the information is coming from very sketchy sources. And the internet guy, I mean, there's troublemakers everywhere. I mean, it's possible as 20,000 dead. They could have whole cities could be wiped out. But the one thing they were going to do, when they, because they said they were,
Starting point is 01:18:15 and I think it may not happen now, is that there's one kid, this 26-year-old, that they're cited, that this could be bullshit too, but they cited him as the first guy they're going to hang, they're going to hang him. But they're not just going to hang him.
Starting point is 01:18:29 They were going to hang him from a crane. So it's like one of those five-story cranes, you know, that goes way up to service buildings and whatever, this big giant crane in the middle of Tehran. They were going to have him dangling from them. that. It was pretty gruesome the idea, but it was like, let's show a
Starting point is 01:18:47 force, we'll show them. And that would have ended the regime. Yeah, but you know, to me it feels like this is meant somehow to drag us in or distract attention. It seems like the president is kind of like, well, you know, they said the killings are stopped.
Starting point is 01:19:03 It doesn't really sound like we're going to do anything. He's talked, he talked a bit about it. But it just sounds like, no, stay away. He's got, he's gotten much bigger things he's doing. And to me, You know, the whole Shah of Iran, it's all France. France has got to be involved in this if it's an op. And this was funny.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Brett Baer on Fox, he had an interview with Iran's foreign minister. And he's discussing it with, what's his face, John Roberts. It was kind of interesting what the foreign minister came up with. It's a classic. And essentially what he's saying is that this was a Mossad operation from Israel. There we go. They looked like Iranian agents designed to kill a large number of people, and that was designed to spark President Trump's action into Iran. And I said, Mr. Foreign Minister, if that's true, you don't have control of your country, because there are agents all over the place killing people indiscriminately in the streets.
Starting point is 01:20:09 And, you know, we went round and round. Also, he said it was designed to taunt President Trump. But if anybody's taunting President Trump, it is the Ayatollah himself, the Supreme Leader. Yeah, because he took to exasite some things about the president. And also there's this headline in the New York Post that the Iranian state TV posted an image of President Trump at the Butler rally as the Secret Service is whisking him off the stage. And instead, with the caption, this time, it will not miss its target. which is more than a failed threat of assassination against the president, which I'm sure will only serve to piss him off.
Starting point is 01:20:50 I say put a bikini on him. If we're going to do X wars, we might as well. This is stupid. Something is very fishy about this. It doesn't smell right at all. I got a... So the Crown Prince, quote unquote, who lives in the D.C. area,
Starting point is 01:21:08 he wanted to go meet with Trump, as we heard from Roz, the squirrel spook. And Trump said, nah. And he said, once you go meet with Witkoff and Rubio over there, go, go meet it to some other place. I'm not interested in talking to you. So one of our boots on the ground says, we know the young Shah well. This is the crown prince. In fact, I did some formation flying with him just three months ago.
Starting point is 01:21:35 He was flying with a former U.S. Air Force Thunderbird pilot. and let's see he has no interest in becoming a monarch and only wants to help usher in a transition to a functional democracy. That sounds like dubious. The whole thing is dubious. And here's a report from France 24. The woman you'll hear speaking is a representative from Chatham House, which is basically the...
Starting point is 01:22:07 MISC, M.I6. Council on Foreign Relations. The protests in Iran, which have been met by a bloody response, were sparked by economic distress, the collapse of Iran's currency and soaring prices to impart international sanctions. As the opposition has grown to challenge the regime, experts say there are doubts about whether it has the structure and momentum to endure. It's not as if the Iranian diaspora over 50 years has created a unified, integrated protest movement. It's very fractured. It's not united. Some Iranians are putting their hope in the son of the last
Starting point is 01:22:43 Shah of Iran, deposed in 1979. Rezapavavi now lives in exile in the U.S. And speaking to Fox News, he said he could lead a transition to a democratic system. We have come to the point where people are just fed up with this regime. They are saying death to the dictator. They want to liberate themselves. And their demand for freedom is met with the most brutal reaction by a regime that is waging war on its own citizens. Heard to a dictatorial regime and thought to be close to the Israeli government, it's unclear if Pavlovy has wide support among Iranians who oppose the Islamic Republic. The people's mujahideen of Iran, based in France, sought to represent an alternative to the monarchists, but was seen as having lost credibility after siding with Saddam Hussein during the
Starting point is 01:23:26 Iran-Iraq war. And minorities in Iran, such as the Kurd, have political agendas of their own that go beyond regime change. There are plenty of activism and ideas and agency that exists inside the country, but many Iranian opposition figures and leaders are in Iran's jails. In the past, the Islamic Republic has eventually crushed any attempt to organize resistance, and many are now wondering if this time will be different. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Well, he had a clip by the last show that they're releasing some of these prisoners, so there's that. Yeah, I don't know. It just, it feels like it's just been started up as a thing. I mean, even when I talk to Lex, he's like, you know, there's some protesting. It felt like a lot of the video you're seeing isn't even from Iran. It's Egypt. It's all other countries.
Starting point is 01:24:19 You can't trust what you're seeing on social media. No, you can't trust anything you see online. You can't even trust us. Well, you can trust us. Oh, okay. Just checking. What are you thinking? Okay, let's talk about Greenland for a moment because this is,
Starting point is 01:24:37 we've got to figure this out. And it seems like, well, here we go. Let's start with ABC. Tonight, as President Trump escalates his push to take over Greenland, top officials from Greenland and Denmark traveling to Washington, to plead their case to the vice president and secretary of state. But they emerged saying the two sides have a, quote,
Starting point is 01:24:59 fundamental disagreement. We didn't manage to change the American position. It's clear that. the president has this wish of conquering over Greenland. We made it very, very clear that this is not in the interest of the kingdom. Trump says the U.S. needs Greenland for national security and has not ruled out using military force to get it. I would like to make a deal, you know, the easy way, but if we don't do it the easy way, we're going to do it the hard way. Denmark, our NATO ally, says they're happy to work with the U.S. to bolster security in the region.
Starting point is 01:25:34 But that doesn't mean that we want to be owned by the United States. A new poll shows 86% of voters, including 68% of Republicans, oppose using military force to seize Greenland. And as Trump ramps up his threats, Denmark now increasing their military presence in Greenland and asking other NATO allies to help. Sweden today also sending troops. Tonight, Republican Senator Mitch McConnell, warning if the U.S. takes on a NATO ally, it would be incinerate. the hard-won trust of loyal allies. But President Trump insists NATO would be stronger with Greenland, quote, in the hands of the United States. Adding anything less than that is unacceptable. And we'll see how it all works out. I think something will work at. And David, we have just learned that France at the request of
Starting point is 01:26:23 Denmark is also sending military forces to Greenland. And again, President Trump says this is all about national security. He says Russia and China are poised to take Greenland, but the officials visiting here today insist that's simply not true. They say they haven't seen a Chinese warship in Greenland in over a decade. But both sides tonight agreeing to keep talking. So this is the big news in Europe. Everybody's talking about all the troops going to Greenland, and they're doing NATO exercises.
Starting point is 01:26:50 NATO forces are on exercise in Greenland at a time when American designs on the island threaten the alliance's very existence. NATO has not confirmed its approval of the drills which reportedly involved troops from Sweden, Germany, France, the Netherlands and Canada. Hosts, Denmark framed it as part of a bolstering of Greenland's defenses. It is within the framework of NATO that we are conducting these activities, and it is Denmark as the host country that has taken these initiatives.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Therefore, I cannot imagine, nor do I want to speculate, that a NATO country would attack. France says it's acting in full solidarity with Denmark. Prime Minister Sebastian LeCornou warned that Washington must be taken at its word. It is clear that the intentions of the Trump administration are serious and that we must absolutely not underestimate the words of the American president. NATO Chief Markler will meet a delegation from Denmark and Greenland on Monday in Brussels. It's unclear whether this particular exercise Operation Arctic Endurance is anything but routine.
Starting point is 01:27:52 There have been many similar drills in recent years. The latest in September was called Arctic Light. It involved more than 550 troops, including military observers from the United States. deserving from afar is the covetous eye of the man in the White House, who continues to say that the U.S. needs screaming. Covetous eye. Wow. This also may be purely, I mean, it's obvious that the Greenland, Iceland, UK gap,
Starting point is 01:28:23 the GIU gap, that that's, you know, we have to be there. I mean, these are all the shipping routes. There's a lot of shipping going on. And for them to say, oh, never seen any, of course, there's all kinds of Chinese shipping going on all the time, Chinese, Russian, etc. It's like the Straits of Formoos. I think they were talking about Chinese flagged and when most of the Chinese stuff is not.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Well, flagged, sure, okay. Ritter looks like a deer in the headlights. Come on in, Mark, what do you got to say? All allies agree on the importance of the Arctic and Arctic security. Because we know that with sea lanes opening up, there is a risk that the Russians and the Chinese will be more active.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And as you know, there are, eight Arctic countries, seven are within NATO. We have to work there to make sure that the Arctic stays safe. And currently we are discussing the next step to that. How to make sure that we give practical follow-up on those discussions to make sure that as an alliance, we do everything collectively and through our individual allies to make sure that the Arctic stay safe. As we all agree, that that has to be a priority. Sounds to me like what's happening here is NATO troops are being, of course it's all our gear, NATO forces are being focused on Greenland. And then we can just roll our ships in.
Starting point is 01:29:41 We say, yeah, we're going to provide you guys cover over here. I don't think we actually need Greenland to just patrol the waters there. And there may be a North Sea Nexus angle to this. You know, we've been watching all these, you know, Victoria and we watch all these, these British royal monarch series. And so we started the crown. And I was reminded, of course, they all speak German. I was reminded that Queen Elizabeth II,
Starting point is 01:30:11 her husband, Prince Philip, was from Denmark. You know, these bloodlines, it's all connected. And so who knows what kind of real attack this is on Denmark? We can listen to a report here where the foreign minister of Denmark and the foreign minister of Greenland talked after their meeting with Rubio, and I think Whitkoff was there as well. But first, we have to make sure we know the German troops are also in Greenland. Denmark's and Greenland's foreign ministers held inconclusive talks in Washington
Starting point is 01:30:44 with U.S. Vice President, J.D. and Secretary of State Marker Roo. Well, you know if they send in J.D., it's not meant to do a deal. J.D. is just going to dance around for you. The Danish foreign minister, Lars Luekha Rasmussen, said the two sides had agreed to create a working group to discuss ways to address American security concerns while also respecting Denmark's red lines. We had what I will describe as a frank, but also constructive discussion. The discussions focus on how to ensure the long-term security in Greenland. And here our perspectives continue to differ, I must say. The president has made his view clear.
Starting point is 01:31:23 and we have a different position. And we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement, but we also agree to disagree. And therefore we will, however, continue to talk. Agreement's foreign minister, Vivian Motzfeld, doubled down and said her government simply cannot accept a US takeover. I think it's very important to say it again that how important it is from our side
Starting point is 01:31:47 to strengthen our cooperation with the United States, but that doesn't mean that we, We want to be owned by the United States. But as allies, how we can strengthen our cooperation is our interest. Well, I think we just send our ships there and just start doing it. I think you're earlier idea of a long lease. Yeah, Trump says he doesn't want that. He doesn't want the long lease.
Starting point is 01:32:17 That's that he's been very explicit. That's what he says. Yeah, well, exactly, exactly. So I only have one clip on this, and it's from NTD, which would have the anti-Chinese perspective. Meanwhile, President Trump calling anything less than Greenland in the hands of the U.S., unacceptable, citing national security. And the problem is there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. You know, I can't rely on Denmark being able to offend themselves.
Starting point is 01:32:48 I put an extra dog sled there last month. They added a second dog sled. That's not going to do the trek. This comes as Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio meet with the foreign ministers of Denmark and Greenland. And we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement, but we also agree to disagree. And therefore we will, however, continue to talk.
Starting point is 01:33:10 It is not a true narrative that we have, you know, Chinese warships all around the place. According to our intelligence, we haven't had a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade or so. While top Danish officials say there are no Chinese ships near Greenland, major Chinese Communist Party media outlets echo these denials, alleging the U.S. is acting out of self-interest rather than national security. President Trump draws attention to a Danish intelligence report released last month
Starting point is 01:33:41 that starkly warns about China's military goals in the Arctic. If you take a look outside of Greenland right now, there are Russian destroyers, there are Chinese destroyers, There are Chinese destroyers and bigger. Hmm. To me, it just seems like a gambit. There's something up. But it may not actually have to do with owning Greenland.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Maybe we just need a pretext for going up there. But we already have bases. It's not a huge base. It's a base. Yeah, how much do you need? Well, you need the ships. I think maybe the gambit is just to show. You get these guys to put all these troops in Greenland to freeze their asses.
Starting point is 01:34:22 off. That cannot be a pleasant assignment. And there's also the thought, which I don't have in any of the clips, but it's just been floating around about them offering $100,000 per Greenlander to vote. Seems low. Seems like a low. Well, if you, imagine you live in Greenland. Yeah. It's probably not low. What are you going to spend it on? Well, that's the point. So it's a lot of money. You're going to be rich. Yeah, which immediately gives, it makes inflation. Even 57,000 people, inflation happens, you know, you give everybody 100 grand.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Hey, you want a dog sled ride? 100 bucks. Should be 100 bucks. Never ridden a dog sled? No. Don't plan on it either. They go like, I have, I've ridden a dog sled. And the dogs go a lot faster than,
Starting point is 01:35:22 youth. I do have two clips from Anderson Pooper with Nick Robertson. I think Nick is a, isn't he an MI6 kind of spy dude? Remember him? I don't know that guy. Yeah, I think you do. He used to do the satellites in Iraq and then all of a sudden he was on camera. I think that was Nick Robertson. No, that I don't know. Well, this is a report from the Nexus, I think. Let's see you St. Robertson joins us tonight from Greenland. Is there a sense of what happens next there? Because, again, the White House doesn't seem interested in compromise. What are you doing your remote from Greenland?
Starting point is 01:35:58 Why? He's protecting the interests of the empire, obviously. I think people here are still perplexed. Remember right now? This guy was always in Iraq and he used to just the side-lil- Yeah, this guy's a spook. Yes, he's a spook. I think people here are still perplexed.
Starting point is 01:36:16 They still don't quite understand what the diplomacy means. I was just talking to a couple of high school graduates here, and they wanted to know what had happened in the meeting in D.C. and what it really meant, and they are both, and their parents, they tell us, are still really worried about whether or not the United States might come here in a military form to annex the country. Right now, I can just tell you, Anderson, that we've just learned through a flight tracking site, something that we were hearing about earlier today, a Danish C-1-3rd military transport, Hercules aircraft, has landed at Nook Airport. The Danish had said that they were going to land, they were going to bring in more military into green land. It would be troops, it would be
Starting point is 01:37:03 aircraft, it would be Navy. We've heard that the Swedish, the Norwegians, the Germans, the French, are all coming here to sort of step up a NATO military security presence, not per se to defend against the United States, but it will begin to establish an image for President Trump of what NATO can do to project the level of security that he is saying that he requires. But I think in no uncertain terms, the reason that people like these young girls we're speaking to before are concerned is because that meeting in Washington has left everyone with the understanding that both sides are still poles apart, high-level jobs. discussions to come, but it really buys a little time for Denmark to prepare, time to hope that
Starting point is 01:37:52 the White House reconsider. But the reality is the can's been kicked down the road, and it is as big a can as it was before Anderson. I think technically NATO... He said nothing. No, of course not. Well, he has a little more here, but I think technically NATO forces can take military control of another NATO country. But, you know, there's one thing that the YouTubers have, there's a bunch of different interviewers that are out there floating around Greenland. And it seems to me that the people that live there would rather have the United States running it than Denmark.
Starting point is 01:38:36 They literally say, yeah, yeah, we, you know, they're all Asians. Oh, yeah, but that's not the man on the street you see on, on France 24, the BBC. or anything here, you see them all saying, no, no, no. They're all saying, at least on these men on the street reports from the YouTubers that they're really more men on the street. And they're young Eskimo-looking people generally. They say, yeah, we'd rather have, and they all speak, or they don't know all, but a lot of them speak English and pretty good English.
Starting point is 01:39:10 They say we'd rather, we don't like the Danes. We just don't like them. Well, why would you? They got smelly cheese. Brown cheese. Brown cheese. There it is. Here's the follow-up.
Starting point is 01:39:23 And this, of course, is about NATO. Congressman, where do you see this going? I mean, given the fact the president isn't budging, neither are officials from Denmark and Greenland. Wait. Now he's with Jake Oching-Clos. Who is that guy? Anderson, good evening. Before looking forward, let's wind the clock back to 2019.
Starting point is 01:39:42 The Danish intelligence services uncovered a... Russian false flag operation in Greenland that was attempting to sow discord between Greenland, the United States, and Denmark, by claiming that the United States was trying to secure Greenland its independence and its annexation. That failed. It turns out that the Kremlin need not have worried because the U.S. President is now doing its bidding for it. The U.S. President is doing exactly what... Oh, hold on. Stop. The U.S. President is doing the bidding of Russia. I never heard that before. There it is.
Starting point is 01:40:19 That's exactly what it is. Let's listen to that bit again. Before looking forward... He's a Democrat representative, former military guy. Let's wind the clock back to 2019. The Danish intelligence services uncovered a Russian false flag operation in Greenland. That was attempting to sow discord between Greenland, the United States and Denmark by claiming that the United States was trying to secure Greenland.
Starting point is 01:40:46 I don't remember that. Do you remember said false flag? We are the false flag show. I don't remember some. It's bull crap. That's why. It's independence and it's annexation. That failed.
Starting point is 01:40:58 It turns out that the Kremlin need not have worried because the U.S. president is now doing its bidding for it. The U.S. president is doing exactly what Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019, which is two things. Wait, stop, stop, stop. So let's go, let's take one stop here and listen to the, What is the logic of this? The logic is that the United States is, you know, they created a false flag to make a look at the United States or bag.
Starting point is 01:41:25 No, no, no, no, no, the Russians doing the bidding of Russia by taking over Greenland because we want to stop Russian. No, no, no. He said that the Russians created a false flag. Right. Yeah. So. Yeah, I got that. But then he says now he says the president, they don't have to do the false flag because the president is doing the bidding of Russia by trying to take over Greenland.
Starting point is 01:41:46 How does that benefit Russia? Well, I actually thought differently when I heard this, and I thought, oh, this is Arc, America, Russia, China. Yeah, exactly. We want to work with them. We are doing their bidding because we have a plan. Somebody has a plan. I hope somebody has a plan. Whether they have a plan or not, his logic is no good.
Starting point is 01:42:11 His logic is no good. The logic is ridiculous, in fact. Well, but it's talking point. worried because the U.S. president is now doing its bidding for it. The U.S. president is doing exactly what Russian intelligence services hoped to accomplish in 2019, which is two things. First, fracturing NATO at a time when NATO needs to be strong on its eastern flank. It is being weakened on its western flank. And number two, driving the Greenlandic people closer, actually, to Chinese and Russian influence for their own polar security.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Why do you think the... Yes. So the Greenlanders, according to this joke, are thinking, well, gee, we don't like the Danes. We don't like the Americans. Let's turn to Russia and China, who've had no contact with whatsoever. They're not even in the picture. It's not even a part of the debate. But that's what they're up.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Come on, dude. Get this guy off the air. What network was this? This is CNN with Anderson Pooper. Well, let's continue because he comes to a logical conclusion. Why do you think that would weaken NATO? Why would the U.S. occupying, I mean, I don't even know how to phrase how the U.S. could do this. But the U.S. greater U.S. presence or control over Greenland, how would that fracture or increasingly fracture NATO?
Starting point is 01:43:43 Well, I mean, Anderson, you may not have the right verbiage, but Article 5 does, which is an attack on a NATO member. The United States forcefully occupying Greenland, which is a part of the kingdom of Denmark, Denmark being a founding member of NATO, would be an attack on NATO by a member of NATO. Yeah. There is no treaty provision that can withstand that. NATO would fracture. and Zijing Ping and Vladimir Putin would win. Win what? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:20 I think Trump is just trolling NATO. He really wants the ships there, and that makes a lot of sense. We've got to have control of that because that's the Donroe doctrine. Yeah, it is in our hemisphere. Yes. And it's pretty important with all this, you know, melting ice and everything. Oh, yes. You know, this is kind of another.
Starting point is 01:44:43 logic is that they have to say the ice is going to melt completely which is going to put that night if it does it's going or if it melts enough there's going to be a shipping lane there that's going to be much more efficient
Starting point is 01:44:58 than going over the Pacific for example you just sneak across the top shortened the routes so that's why the airlines fly over the polar route largely because it's faster and so it would be a big deal. It'd save everybody money. But these guys are seeing it differently. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:21 It is yet to be revealed. And there's probably oil up there. I think that's much less important. I really, that's, you know, I've heard oil. I've heard minerals, gold, diamonds. No, I think it's just about the shipping routes. That's it. All those ghost ships are going through there, which would be about oil ultimately. All right. So the next attack on, I'll just say the nexus, is Jerome Powell,
Starting point is 01:45:53 and this is really, I think this is fun to watch. Here's a brief statement. The president's general feeling about Jerome Powell, the head of the Federal Reserve. As you know, the inflation numbers just came
Starting point is 01:46:09 out and we have very low inflation so that would give Too late, Powell, the chance to give us a nice, beautiful, big rate cut, which would be great for the country, but rates are falling also. And growth is going up. We have tremendous growth numbers. So growth is going up. And I can only say that the country is doing well. He's billions of dollars over budget. So he either is incompetent or he's crooked. I don't know what he is. But he doesn't certainly, he doesn't do a very good job. Now, did you see the, was it like the hostage video that Powell did? Yeah, I thought it was kind of dull.
Starting point is 01:46:48 I didn't think much of it. What was the point? Well, the point is, is he's making it sound like it's political, but it was actually, I think it was a Democrat who referred Powell's testimony before the Senate Banking Committee to the Department of Justice saying that he perjured himself during that testimony. It has nothing to do with the rates, and Trump just keeps saying that,
Starting point is 01:47:11 but it seems like it's about something else. It's about billing, spending too much money. No, no, no. He per- We don't know because the grand jury, you know, it's not public, but it's- I don't know how he could perjure himself. Most of the time he's asked for opinions.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Well, you know, the, I don't think the testimony was public either, was it? I don't think so. I look for it. I couldn't find it. But what this has done is it has put the Federal Reserve, and I'm always amazed how many people don't know that the Federal Reserve is not a government organization.
Starting point is 01:47:54 It's a so-called independent institution created in 1913 by the banking cartel. Yeah. What was the reason for it being created? What was the reason for it being created? I were sick and tired of the business cycle getting out of control. Every 10 years, you'd have a depression, half the banks would go out of business and people would lose all their money.
Starting point is 01:48:18 This kept going on and on and on and they had to do something about it. So they decided that, you know, since we can't have a central bank, quote, unquote, we had to have some sort of a faux central bank. And they decided that if they got control, although it's bullshit, it hasn't worked. No. But they decided that, well, maybe this will be one way of stopping that business cycle from breaking us every every you know the it was the crash in 1907 that really triggered it but this that was the end of the end that was the worse than anything we've seen for a short term it just broke everybody's
Starting point is 01:48:50 back so you're telling me that the federal reserve of which we don't even know who all the members are yes we do no no we don't we don't know all the bad we know who all the members are the members are all public no we know the board we know who the board of governors is we know who all the members are. Who are they? Well, I don't have the names off the top of my head, but they're not, it's not secret like you seem to believe. I'm pretty sure that it is. No, no, no. Well, I'm pretty sure that it is. But no, I'm pretty sure we know who all the members are. There's not a secret guy in the background that's doing anything. This is all, you know, it's, it's public. The members are all known. In fact, I did a search on this.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Are all the members of the Federal Reserve known? Yes. Well, who are they then? The identities of the Federal Reserve's key decision makers are public, not secret. Not the Board of Governors. Not the decision makers. All the member banks. The Board of Governors are the decision makers.
Starting point is 01:49:55 They're all known. There's no secret people back there. I don't know where you got that. Are all the member banks known? Yeah. Yeah? That's what I... What, do you think there's a secret bank?
Starting point is 01:50:07 Well, I think the Federal Reserve in general is a bad idea. Well, that's different than thinking that's secret. Well, I'll leave that. You don't have any proof. I don't have any proof. No, there's plenty. You can. There's no proof that there's one secret person or bank.
Starting point is 01:50:24 There's no secret bank in the Federal Reserve. Okay. Not all banks in the United States are member banks, but not all bank members are known. But that's Google. Not all bank members are known? No. Where'd you get that? From Google.
Starting point is 01:50:40 So take that for what it is. Really? Yeah. Well, but let's not argue over that. Let's argue. Well, something to argue about if you think it's a secret society or something running the Federal Reserve. Well, the way I understand the history, as the Federal Reserve originally were the same
Starting point is 01:50:57 banks, same people, who started the American, was it the American bank? The Second Bank of America, the Second Bank of and the First Bank of America. And Andrew Jackson dissolved that. Yeah, you talked about this on Jimmy's show. You're repurposing information. Just calling you. Just saying.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Yeah, but I actually got some clips. So I'm not, you know what, John, it's fine. You know everything. I'm just saying you're thinking there's some secret organization running the Federal Reserve and there's not. It's okay. This is, you know, Rand Paul. If you remember, during the era of our show, Rand Paul made a big fuss about end the Fed, which is, you know, okay, you can try doing that.
Starting point is 01:51:44 And then he got ahead of the banking committee. He couldn't do Jack because he was going to, oh, he's going to, he's going to audit the Fed. Nothing came up because there was nothing onerous going on. No. Rand Paul was running on his dad's mission to end the Fed. And I mean, Ron Paul. What I want to get to here without. without going into some endless conversation about who owns.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Because I think that, and I will, on Sunday show, I will find out some information. I will tell you that not everything about the Federal Reserve Network is known. I believe that to be true. Yeah, you do believe that to be true. I do, and you believe it not to be true. But that's beyond the point. They certainly didn't stop the boom and bus cycle that the businesses had gotten us into.
Starting point is 01:52:33 I said that right at the beginning of my presentation right here. Right. Yeah, no, they, but we don't know that it could have gotten worse. I mean, after 1907, they had to do something. Has it gotten any better? Well, the problem they had was. With the money creation, they do. It has not gotten better.
Starting point is 01:52:53 They make too many assumptions. They think they can, they're inept. I'll give you that. And should commercial banks be in charge of our, monetary policy by your reasoning? Well, who should be in charge of monetary policy? Before the Fed, every bank had their own notes. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:23 And I believe that what is happening here is that Scott Bessent will follow in the, gosh, I forget who it was, they had like three different secretaries of the Treasury under Andrew Jackson. and the third one who ultimately became a Supreme Court judge, he drained the Federal Reserve of all of the... But there was no Federal Reserve. I mean, the Second Bank of America, drained their accounts and then gave it to what was called Andrew Jackson's pet banks, which dissolved effectively the Second Bank of America.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Now, he screwed it up because he eventually created enormous hyperinflation. But I think that you're going to see a move by Bessant in particular who is going to redistribute. He can already, he's already going to do the short-term T-bills. And I think that's, this is the point I'm getting to. I think that's where the stable coin gambit comes into play. I'm just saying that this, I think there is a scheme afoot. And every single central banker, I've never seen this before. Trump has always,
Starting point is 01:54:38 for as long as he's been in office, has complained about the Federal Reserve, but it's the first time that we see all the central bank guys coming out all around the world and saying, oh, no, no, this is no good. We have to have independent banks. I think they're worried. I think they're scared.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Something is going on. Of course they're worried. But they've never all come out en masse and signed letters. You have some maniac coming out. there and really pretty much threatening the entire monetary system of the world with stable coin. And I can see that being a huge problem. I can see it as being a great. I mean, I'd be worried too if I was a banker. I can see it as being a great idea. Well, they didn't, they don't see it that way. And so they're worried. So I don't, I'm not stunned by this. My point is they've never,
Starting point is 01:55:31 this is, it's not being discussed. All this being discussed is he's going after Powell for political reasons. And I think that what I'm trying to say, which you're just, for some reason, you just keep fighting me on it. No, I'm not fighting you on it at all. I just think some of the things you're saying are bull crap like that there's secret banks. That's one. Are you going to argue any of the stable coin gambit? I understand it where I could replace Swift, but whether or not it's going to replace the banking system is another issue. I don't think so. What is the banking system? What what do these what does the what do these central banks do what is the what is their one besides the making money printing money they they settle they do the settlement if you can do that through a
Starting point is 01:56:17 blockchain you can if you can get more than more flowing through your blockchain than the what they do i think you can effectively neutralize them and let me tell you shopify is already adding a stable coin to their checkout options our own donation page has a stable coin checkout page? Why? I didn't ask for it. I don't even know how to get a hold of a stable coin. No, not yet, but it's being set up.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Why else is this happening? Why would Shopify, who arguably are one of the most successful financial companies in the world, who are outpacing Visa, why would Shopify add stable coin to their checkout work? Shopify's outpacing Visa? In stock price, yeah. And in success.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Oh, yeah. And stable coin will have no fees associated. And. Well, there's your, there you just answered your own question. It's all about the fees. But yes. And the same thing is that I think it's all connected is when I'm trying, I'm trying to explore this with you instead of like.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Yeah, we'll keep exploring. So I'm going to keep pushing back. Unless you don't want any pushback and you just want me to roll over to these thoughts. Well, you're, okay. So you think everything's just going to continue as normal and nothing will happen? Pretty much. Okay. I believe that the 10% cap on credit card interest rates is related to this.
Starting point is 01:57:59 I think it's not just to make it more affordable. I think he's trying to put the credit card companies on notice, if not severely hurt their business. Well, let's hope so. All right. So we'll leave stable coin for what it is, and we'll leave the central bankers for what it is. But I'm going to put it in the red book that this is an attack on the entire financial system. And yes, I think they're serious about doing it. I really do.
Starting point is 01:58:30 And I think it's about time. Every year there's a bill to end the Federal Reserve. Last year. Yeah, every year. It was Massey. Funny enough. And he has 10 co-sponsors. Massey.
Starting point is 01:58:48 It was Massey. That tells you something right there. That's why I found it interesting. So the credit card cap came up on CNBC. And here's the Sorkin kid trying to explain the business of credit cards, which was a little more intricate than I thought. I was on the phone with a bunch of bankers over the weekend who were. basically, not just mad, flipping. Flipping out of their minds, frankly.
Starting point is 01:59:17 And they were flipping out of their minds, I believe, and the argument they were making is, if you don't want credit in America, if you want us to shut down millions of people's credit cards, because that's what we will have to do to make the economics of these businesses work, that would be the outcome. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's a threat. I can't tell you about the actual math.
Starting point is 01:59:39 I do think that what's happened to the business, from what I've told, is because there are so many services that are now been layered on top of credit cards, that the only way for them to obviously make money, really, is to actually charge what might be described as usury rates or not, whatever you... What kind of services? I mean, there's all of the... I mean, some cards have loyalty points. Some cards don't. Some cards have insurance on the product. Some cards don't. But there's all sorts of things now that are embedded in your credit card that go far away.
Starting point is 02:00:09 beyond strictly just buying and selling products, you know, whether it's insurance on when you go to rent a car or this or that. Now, some of these cards, as I said, there are fees, you know, American Express charges you fees. There's other cards that give you the card for free. But those cards that are giving you for free, the way they're making up their money is typically on the other end, meaning they want you to charge everything on it. They want you, not just to charge everything on it, because they're getting the 3% for each sale. They really want you to actually not pay so that you pay the interest rate. That's the business.
Starting point is 02:00:47 So Sorkin there defending the business saying that, well, because they give you insurance and all this other stuff. I don't know. That seems like they gave you a crap. Exactly. And then Kernan says, well, he basically said, well, what about the free market? How does that not work? Once again, in a world where you don't like to use the word cap ever on something that you don't, because you immediately think there's going to be less of it when you cap it.
Starting point is 02:01:19 And it's supposed to work where if someone's charging too high in it's right, then competitors come in and go down an eighth at a time until you get to an equilibrium where demand equal supply. So I don't understand. But once again, is Elizabeth Warren going go, go President Trump again? Is that, are they on the same side of? Probably. So two things here. One, that's a good question.
Starting point is 02:01:41 They must be colluding, I guess, because everyone has high interest rates. Do you know of any low interest rates credit cards? No, they all brag about it. They maybe have your low interest rate. I'm going to correct you on something, by the way. No, you're right. There's no, they're all high interest rates.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Visa is over three times bigger than Shopify. Has their stock price risen to say? Their net worth, did the stock price is way up there. Of who? Of Shopify. But the market cap of Visa is $632 billion and Shopify is $200 billion. I didn't say their market cap. I said that there's stock price.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Stock price is all relative. Well, okay. Well, the stock price of Visa is $327. Yeah, but look at the charts. I believe Shopify has exploded since they came on the scene. Well, it's not that it's a crappy company. No, but. But you said they were bigger.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Shopify's 157. It's not even close. It's half the stock price. And I qualified it by saying the stock price. Well, Shopify's 157. It's half the price of Visa stock. All right. I'm just, because you throw this stuff out out of the blue,
Starting point is 02:02:54 and it just goes out into the ether, and people hear, oh, geez, Shopify's bigger than Visa, when it's not even a Snowbell's chance in hell it would ever be bigger than Visa. It's a huge company visa. Yes. And if you put the two charts next to each other, has Shopify increased in value?
Starting point is 02:03:14 I guess that's what I meant. Recently it's fallen off a rock, off a cliff. Okay. Well, then I was wrong. I believe Shopify is a very successful company. Not saying Visa isn't. You didn't say that.
Starting point is 02:03:25 I know. I'm conceding to you. No, well, with provisos. Actually, Shopify once at one point. it really hit some good numbers. I know. I know because the reason why I said that, I didn't say it correctly for sure,
Starting point is 02:03:44 is because the former New York banker, go ahead, you can discredit him about Goldman Sachs. Which is skyrocketing. The former New York banker has been investing in Shopify for eight years, I think. He says it is a much better company and deal than Visa if you want to make money.
Starting point is 02:04:04 So he was just talking about stock price increase, I believe. But we can't believe anybody. Certainly not him because it was wrong about. No, we can believe that. And it is true. It's a newer company. They're doing quite well, but they're not bigger than Visa. That's all I was, you were saying that they were.
Starting point is 02:04:21 And I already told you, I said I was incorrect in saying that. Yes. We got to keep the show honest. Okay. Well, it always is difficult. for me when the first thing you say is you're recycling content. I'm trying not to recycle content. I'm really trying not to.
Starting point is 02:04:40 But I think it's important. And when you do that, it's just like, fuck you is what you're saying. No, I'm saying you're recycling. You know, it's like not everybody. If people are your fans and there's plenty of them out there, they're going to listen to all your stuff and they're going to keep in the same thing over and over. You can, there's original material.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Long pause. Well, I'm just, I'm baffled by you. I'm baffled. You write the substacks that are the same material. Who care? What do you care what my fans listen to? What do you care? Isn't it about this show?
Starting point is 02:05:16 Isn't it about bringing the best to this show? Yes. Okay, so what do you care? If you're taking retreaded material from other shows, you're giving our show second tier status. You've got your first tier status, which is you and Jimmy, and then you bring it your same stuff over to our show as though second rate.
Starting point is 02:05:35 Okay. It's an insult. Oh, you feel it's an insult. Oh, okay. To the audience? No. How many people listen to Noah Jen and how many people listen to we get to do this? What's the difference in audience size?
Starting point is 02:05:49 Do you think? Just take a wild guess. It's not an insult to anybody. No one has complained except you. Well, I'm trying to get you an audience over there if you haven't figured this out. Well, you're doing a great job. You haven't mentioned the name of the show once. I can never believe me I would love to mention the name of the show I can't remember the name of the show you ready we get to do this we get to do this you actually and not only that you've had somebody write a song Jeff Smith oh Jeff Smith wrote the song yeah of course that's where I you know I'm sorry if I if I weakened our show by using Jeff Smith somewhere else but he doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 02:06:37 anything for us anymore. You might as well. Anyway, final clip here. So, Kernan says, what's happening here? Is President Trump going to call Elizabeth Warren? And he actually did.
Starting point is 02:06:52 He called her, which is amazing by itself. And she was asked about it on CNBC. And what do you think she answered? She was very, I think she was positive, if I'm not mistaken. That's not what I heard.
Starting point is 02:07:04 I had just given a speech about the future the Democratic Party. And the basic point that I made in the speech is that Donald Trump had promised for an entire year in the run-up to the 2024 election that on day one, he would lower costs for American families. He gets elected. And the very first interview, he says, on day one. Day one.
Starting point is 02:07:28 She didn't answer the question at all or even during the full 11-minute interview. All she said was, there's cheaper credit cards out there. She's part of the system. She doesn't want credit card companies to get screwed by Trump. I heard a different clip from her. I don't have it. I listened to the whole 11 minutes. She was somewhat complimentary for the fact that they agreed on this. And now she turned, somebody gave her a call. But who?
Starting point is 02:07:53 Well, listen to the rest of the clip. Or cost for American families and that that's why he got elected. And yet here we are a year in. And the cost of groceries is up. The cost of utilities is up. the cost of housing is up. The cost of health care is up, up, up. And all of those costs are up because of policies that Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress have pushed on our economy. So the argument I was making in the speech is it's time for Democrats to jump in, to hold Donald
Starting point is 02:08:28 Trump and the Republicans accountable for these higher costs for American families, and then make a choice as we go forward. We can take our economic agenda and sand it down, narrow it down to make it more acceptable to billionaire donors or we can actually go full-throated
Starting point is 02:08:50 on behalf of the American people and make bold proposals and demonstrate that we will get in there and fight for it. But this was all about lowering costs for American families because that's what Democrats are going to
Starting point is 02:09:05 do. And that's what the election of 2026 is going to be about. That's all she could do. That's all she could do is talk about the 2026 election. She doesn't care about people, doesn't want to help them, doesn't want it. No. Somebody called her up and said, hey, hey, hey, you can't be talking anything good about Trump. We got to win this 2026 thing. This is the whole thing is about 2026. I had a clip it somewhere about 2026, I thought. I don't have. Let's do more Africa news.
Starting point is 02:09:43 I wish I had more African news. Let's do something I don't want to do too much on Minnesota because that's the biggest description of the week. Miami and the midterms. This is from El Jazeera and this is, you know, unbeknownst to everybody, you know, Chuck Schumer's been working behind the scenes. They've been the Democrats have been winning all these local elections. The Republicans are lazy. The Republicans are lazy and
Starting point is 02:10:15 no, no, no. The Republicans don't want Trump to win. I think most of them well, you're talking about the professional Republicans. I'm talking about the public at large. Oh, okay. The professional Republicans don't like Trump. They don't want to do anything. James Comer's the worst. He's never going to indict anybody. Clinton can give him the finger.
Starting point is 02:10:36 I'm not coming in for the talk. Well, you've been subpoenaed. You know, now you're breaking the law. Ah, screw you. Oh, okay, whatever. I mean, the guy's a horrible person. And so you have, meanwhile, the Democrats are making inroads left and right. And now this.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Now, the U.S. midterm elections aren't happening until November, but the political posturing is already well underway. Democrats hope a strong showing will help to limit the president's power. They recently received a boost in Donald Trump's. state of Florida. From Miami, here's Phil Lavelle. This is Miami, Florida. It is colorful. It is cultural. It's competitive. And politically, is this place seeing the start of a big shift. Democrats hope so. Eileen Higgins is Miami's new mayor, a Democrat herself, which is significant because Miami has not elected a Democrat to run it for 30 years. Quick bit of background for
Starting point is 02:11:29 you then. Florida is as red as it gets, dominated by the Republicans. Democrats have been trying to shake it up for years and turn it blue, or at least make it purple, a blend of the two. This was once the ultimate swing state. The 2000 presidential election hinged on Florida. Al Gore just lost out to George W. Bush after a Supreme Court battle. But it has moved steadily to the right ever since. Luser COVID restrictions drew in older, more conservative-leaning voters, joining an already huge and broadly conservative Latino base. It helped Governor Ron DeSantis with a record-breaking landslide in the 2022-Mid. terms. But here's why Democrats are feeling a bit more hopeful right now. They've notched up a handful of
Starting point is 02:12:09 wins elsewhere lately, small but symbolically important for a party still regrouping after losing the White House in 2024. How do you capitalize on that? How do you keep that going? We keep it going by being on the ground. That's what we need to do. We need to continue voter registration, especially here in Florida. We need to have voter registration. We need to up our numbers. We need to reach out to our Democrats, independents and Republicans, because they're a Republicans that have buyers remorse. I think about where we are right now at this particular moment in time. See, President Trump is only a year in, a quarter of the way through his second term.
Starting point is 02:12:44 The midterm elections take place in November, and Republicans need to do well there to fulfill his election agenda. If Democrats want to slow him down, this is their chance. No, what's my takeaway from that? Three years, there hasn't been a Democrat mayor of Miami, and now there's one. these guys are making, these Democrats are doing a lot better than anybody wants to admit to. The Republicans are flat-footed. They're complacent. I listen to these, I watch all the right shows and they're, they spike in the ball left and right as though they've won
Starting point is 02:13:21 the midterms that they think they're going to win the midterms. They don't put any fear of God into the voters saying, hey, we're going to lose the midterms, which is what's going to happen. And then Trump's going to get impeached again. And probably again, He's going to get impeached four times probably. And they're just not, it's unbelievable. These Republicans are lazy. Well, they don't have the spark right now. They don't have the MAGA spark,
Starting point is 02:13:45 which is thanks to the partially, thanks to the podcast wars, Nick Fuentes, other agents of change and destabilization. And Trump is busy doing stuff. He doesn't care. I think even if he gets impeached, he's still going to keep moving. They can't stop him from doing what.
Starting point is 02:14:02 changed anything, but he's not going to get anywhere where the Congress that's deadlocked. He doesn't need Congress. He just kill everything that he wants to. He's not going to get everything he wants to. He would be better off with a Congress that was amenable to passing laws that were in his favor, as opposed to a bunch of asshole Democrats who are going to be lording it over everybody. And Republicans. the just as bad, the Republicans. I'm telling you, they do not want Trump to win.
Starting point is 02:14:37 They're sick of it. They want stability. They want to go back to their home. They want to hang out. People need to, yeah, you're right. Republicans, if you're talking about the public at large, the organization, the fire, I think, is gone. Feels lost.
Starting point is 02:14:53 It reminds me of California. We have a Republican, National, Republican, California, Republican Committee, whatever it's called. And they don't do. anything. They didn't put any money behind Garvey when he ran for the Senate. They let this guy, you know, this screwball, what's his name, Schiff, become senator of California. That's a humiliation. And now they're going to have governorship running. They got, who they're going to run? And they're running Steve Hilton. And that's the Republican guy. I mean, this is ridiculous. They're going to
Starting point is 02:15:25 have some fat Katie Porter will be the governor. Or Steyer, Tom Steyer, he's got to a shot at it. We have to listen to this guy. And you still won't leave. No, I can't complain enough. All right. Couple, couple, we're late now. Couple clips on, no. Yeah, we are. We're late. Couple clips on the, my fault. Minnesota. The first one, where did this come from? This was, where is it now? Oh, yes, CBS. A week after the kill. killing of Renee Good in Minneapolis, the fallout continues. A vigil this morning followed fierce overnight clashes as massed immigration agents by the thousands continue to work in the city. And after this incident, caught on tape showing a woman pulled and dragged by agents.
Starting point is 02:16:21 Meanwhile, a half dozen federal prosecutors in Minnesota, including the man Trump named acting U.S. attorney last summer Joe Thompson, have quit in protest, according to sources speaking with CBS News. Some over the Trump administration's decision not to investigate the federal agent who shot Renee Good and to instead investigate Good herself and Good's widow. The woman and her friend were highly disrespectful of law enforcement. CBS News has also learned six others in the Department of Justice of Civil Rights Division in Washington, have left in a mass exodus too. No, I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Amid concerns about the department's decision to block local authorities from doing their own probe. Renee Good's family attorney spoke with CBS News. today. The thought. And who do you think her attorney is? Same guy who this. Same guy who this. Same guy who defended George Floyd. Yeah. Yeah. This is a hot shot, local hot shot. That there is only a one-sided investigation is really not palatable to the family, nor should it be to the government or the American people. The wave of resignation show crumbling confidence and morale inside. What are you talking about? One. cited investigation. An investigation is an investigation. It's not one-sided or the other.
Starting point is 02:17:39 Yeah, but it's Trump is corrupt. We all know this. Everything's corrupt. Epstein. It is really not palatable to the family, nor should it be to the government or the American people. The wave of resignation show crumbling confidence and morale inside the Justice Department. The pattern seems to be that the administration wants us to, do work that advances their political agenda rather than evaluate cases based on the facts. About the federal agent that fired the shot, Deputy U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanche said in a statement, there is currently no basis for a criminal civil rights investigation. That is a statement that is upset local authorities in Minneapolis. So there's all kinds of back and forth. They're sending in
Starting point is 02:18:24 jags now. I'm not quite sure why other than to do more stuff. And the fraud keeps being uncovered by Nick Shirley. He's got a new one with another guy. Yeah, I like this new one. He's got four bodyguards with him now. He's not an idiot. And he has a new guy, another old guy who's unidentified, but okay. Oh, it's not the same guy?
Starting point is 02:18:45 No, it's not. It's a new guy. It's a new guy. When a Somali goes to the doctor, magically, they forgot how to speak English, so they needed an interpreter there. So the county brings in an interpreter at $100 an hour, minimum eight hours to interpret what the doctor is telling the patient. So that's another layer of fraud that nobody's even talked about or revealed. And it's millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars all in its own,
Starting point is 02:19:10 interpreter services. Because what percentage do you think of these people, especially if they were born here in the United States, they speak English, right? Of course they do. They should not be saying no English. And then remember, the interpreter has to get to the doctor's office or the hospital. How are they getting there? The transportation company, and then they got to get back home.
Starting point is 02:19:26 And that patient had to get to the doctor's office. How? The kids got to get to school. How transportation? That's why he said the transportation is the hub of, really, I think, all of this. So basically what we're talking about between all these fraudulent businesses, the daycare, the autism centers, the adult daycare, the home services, and then the transportation. And then on top of that, you have it looped in with them going eventually to the doctors
Starting point is 02:19:48 for translators to be paid by the state. That's exactly what's happening, yes. What a business. I love all these people now doing. Nick Shirley's in their own towns and they're all running around. Oh, everybody's Nick Shirley. It's all out of the blue. We need shirts.
Starting point is 02:20:03 You're right. I got it here. We got in the Bay Area. We got it. I'm sure you get a few in Texas, probably not as many because there's not so much corruption. There's corruption, but not like here.
Starting point is 02:20:14 And yeah, but they went to these transportation companies. There's nobody there. There's no office. It's bull crap and they're billing him left and right for nothing that's going on. Well, And then they get threatened either threatening them. The guy said, I thought that was, he said,
Starting point is 02:20:30 transportation, he said, that's really what this is about. I don't know if you heard that. Yeah, no, he's, yeah. And they went to, they did a thorough investigation of the bullcraft transportation companies. Yeah, it's not just, it's not just Minnesota. It's everywhere. There's no doubt about it. They're just, it's just corruption everywhere.
Starting point is 02:20:48 You know, Joy Reid has, you know, ever since she got kicked off of Ms. Now or MSNBC, when it's still MSNBC. She still does a show on YouTube. And she gets guests. And I wanted to play these two clips before we take a break because the Emilio popped in. The state of Minnesota under occupation, Minnesota, of course, is our latest state to be inundated by the Trump regime's armed secret police. And I want you guys to understand, I use that language very intentionally. Because if these scenes were playing out in any other country, particularly in a global South country, if they were in the Middle East,
Starting point is 02:21:24 somewhere or in Africa somewhere, we in the media would absolutely describe... I love, we in the media, on YouTube, what you're about to see as the invasion of a city by regime secret police or by armed regime paramilitary. She's got video rollins and everything, John. It's like the show never went away.
Starting point is 02:21:52 And she probably has more viewers on YouTube. Well, that's probably true. said, have you not learned? This is why we killed that lesbian can you tell us what happened to you? So first off, I'm the United States Marine veteran. We were following them from a safe distance.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Following ice agents. Yep, following ice agents. They tried, they stopped in the middle of the road and reversed on 62. They tried to ram our car. They broke my window. They yanked me out by my neck.
Starting point is 02:22:27 They threw me to the ground. They stomped on me. They pushed my face into the ground. They put the cuffs on as tight as possible to the point where it took six agents to try to get them off. Talk about slanted investigation. Wait a minute. Why is she even there if she was cuffed and beaten to a pulp and then obviously taken somewhere? Why is she standing there?
Starting point is 02:22:51 Because it's nonsense, I think. Or she was a troublemaker. second part. You'll notice that when ICE started out, they were targeting Latino men very intentionally. Most of the people they were running up to on the street were brown men. And that was very intentional
Starting point is 02:23:09 because they were trying to put forward a narrative that what they were doing was hunting down the worst of the worst. And the worst were Trendaaragua and other gang members. But now, particularly in the wake of Renee Good's murder.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Murder. The complexion and gender of the targets is shifting. Have you noticed that? You're seeing more and more women. Now this is really egregious what she does here. Now it's like, oh, we're just going after black women that ICE is just a bunch of Nazi SSers. I mean, do these people really think that ICE is just going around just grabbing people? Do you feel like that's happening, John?
Starting point is 02:23:53 No, I don't think so. but I'm under the impression that these people believe it. Oh, there's no doubt about that because this is the continuous message. And here comes the milieu talk. And as you see in that video, more and more people who are black. Because remember, the quota is being set by Stephen Miller. And he wanted 3,500 people a day. You saw a black pregnant woman being thrown to the ground and kidnapped and thrown into a van.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Kidnapped. You saw a brown woman who was just on her way to a doctor's appointment who's being given conflicting directions. Go, don't go. Go get out of the car. She has no idea what to do. Then she gets dragged out of the car. She's not being accused of a crime. She's just in their way. And you saw a black woman whose husband is dragged off from their home and you see her out there crying. This is where the regime is going. Yes, please. I have to say, we shouldn't fall for the okey do. We know what they're trying to do. They're trying to excite black folk.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Correct. And everybody else to get angry so they can go ahead and have the authority to pass their stupid state law where they can basically just take over the country and do it. So black folk do not fall for the okie dole. Do you remember the okie doke? That was Obama the phrase. If we if we okay doke, you know, it sounds. Oki-doke. The tweets are Oki-doke. That's right.
Starting point is 02:25:26 The Obama, I think Obama's still giving people direction with his okey-doke. Oh, you might be right, because I keep seeing Schumerisms in some of the crap that the Democrats pull, like the Candlelight Vigil has Schumer written all over it. Of course, he was at the beginning, at the front of it.
Starting point is 02:25:47 But the whole idea, it's like when they all got and took a knee in Congress and they had to wrap, there's some wrap around their neck. That was Schumer. Mm-hmm. They, uh, the sit-ins, I think were Schumer.
Starting point is 02:26:00 Remember when Congress sitting in its own chambers, oh, yes. They did the sit-in. They did the sit-in on themselves. Yeah, these guys, they never let up. No, but you're right. It's, uh, there's a portion of the country that absolutely believes what they're saying. They absolutely do.
Starting point is 02:26:22 There's a big portion. This was a classic Scott Adams. Same movie, two different screens. That was a class. That was one he would hammer over and over again. And there's no changing it. Yeah. We had it as dimension A and dimension B.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Yeah. Well, we don't even go there anymore because they're lost. It's sad. They're lost. I don't think we can ever get them back to reality. Well, they say every once in a while, this is the problem. I can't disagree, which is what you hate me saying. but the
Starting point is 02:26:53 there's every so often one of them snaps and goes over to and they say wait a minute I've been bullcraped I'm not going to put up with this anymore and they quit remember that you know leave the party they're well yeah
Starting point is 02:27:08 you remember who that was Candice Owens Blexit that's right she was one of the first to do it and what did she turn out to be a disruption you know
Starting point is 02:27:21 you got to be careful you've got to be careful. Yeah, yeah. Candice Owens is a good example of, you don't know what the hell's going on with her. No, and she's kind of falling off the radar. I mean, the whole, everything is falling apart. As predicted,
Starting point is 02:27:41 it's like you can't be hammering on one thing continuously. They don't understand audiences don't like that. They get tired of it. And they need, and they need good arguments from time. the time, which is why people continue to come to us. Well, that's because we don't stay on one topic. No. You can be in Africa one minute and you can be in Minneapolis the next and you wouldn't
Starting point is 02:28:06 know the difference. And with that. Yes, well, okay. Thank you for the reminder that I did Africa clips. So I'm now the one minus one. No, Africa. It's your turn to do Africa clips next. Africa and Somalia, that was my point.
Starting point is 02:28:22 Somalia. Somalia. Somalia, Sudan, it's all the same. Yes. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the... I don't have anything. I don't have anything.
Starting point is 02:28:39 What... Say what to my... Now, the morning, you're going to be in the morning to you, Mr. Martin, Martin, Shibus and Rafi in the air, subs of the water, the dames and nights out there. In the morning, to the troll room. Let me count you all in a second. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Yeah. You know, whenever there's a war or somebody dies, people show up. We're almost back at 1800 for our Thursday. Yeah. It's death and war is good for the show. Yeah, yeah, I noticed this. The trolls are with us here in the troll room at trollroom.org.com. You can always listen live through a modern podcast app. I highly recommend you get one of those. It really is the way to listen to the No Agenda show if you want to listen live.
Starting point is 02:29:30 And if you don't, you want to get one of those because within 90 seconds of us posting the show, you will be notified. You don't have to wait 15 minutes, sometimes hours when your app updates. It's very old-fashioned. So go with the modern podcast at modern podcast apps.com. And the trolls are, of course, part of our value-for-value system. They contribute. We got a good contribution. We found out that efficiency experts.
Starting point is 02:29:58 There you go. That was a good troll contribution. Yeah, finally. Many other ways you can contribute your time and your talent and your treasure, the three T's of value for value. One of them is by bringing us artwork for the show. And we already mentioned him earlier, but Comics'Raeblogger just nailed it for episode 1832.
Starting point is 02:30:16 We titled That Spicy Mode. And there she was. There was the pregnant astronaut floating in space. and it was good. I mean, we both looked at all the different... He also had a naked astronaut. Yeah, that wasn't happening. That was not going to happen at all.
Starting point is 02:30:33 Oh, what happened? Oh, I hit the wrong one. There we go. Let's see what we had. It's all AI, obviously. Which is just what it is these days. Yes, he had two pregos in space. Obviously, we're not going to do the naked lady.
Starting point is 02:30:50 I'm not going to do that. You kind of like the Matthew Dron. Opco's astronaut baby, the space baby, which is another contender. This is all a no agenda, art generator.com, which has been available for probably 15 years in one version or another. And anybody can contribute by uploading art to it. And we just select one and we credit someone as an artist. And it's all AI. What can I say?
Starting point is 02:31:19 It's bland. It's weak. It's... It's annoying. It's annoying. Was there anything else that we liked? I don't think there was anything. Well, I did use Please Donate for the newsletter.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Well, of course. That's what you want to do. That was a good one. Yeah. Although the little sad puppy for some of... Instead of being brown or white, he's black and white, which I thought was I'm doing that. The one by Senate, by M. Senate, that one?
Starting point is 02:31:45 Yeah, M. Senate. It was something else I thought that somebody did something very creative. Well, talk about it. Wait, tomorrow? We'll talk about tomorrow, on the tomorrow's show. Tomorrow's show. Let me see. Lots of Scott Adams, of course.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Yeah, all right. Well, there's still room, people. I recommend you give it a shot. Go to your favorite AI art generator. For as long as they last. You know, there's all kinds of things happening now with Claude, I think it is, code generator. Is that a clawed code generator?
Starting point is 02:32:19 Now they're saying, hey, you know, it's been in our terms of service for a couple of years now or whatever, all of 2025. But you can't actually use us in other products unless you pay for higher tier access. Everybody's losing their minds. It's like, well, what do you expect? These guys got to make money at some point. That point is now.
Starting point is 02:32:41 And I think the only, I've said it before, I think Google will win. Nobody else for me. So the current numbers, I think it was, I don't know it was Chad GPT or one of these groups. They came out with some numbers and they were, they did like a hundred, a hundred, I think it was a hundred million in sales. And, and they lost one point four billion. Yeah. Yeah. And so the basic, so the number, so you have, you have, more or less, everything you do for free on these systems.
Starting point is 02:33:14 They're, they're giving you the, the result plus 10 bucks. Yeah. For all practical purposes, they're giving you a $10 bill every time you use these things. I was thinking this morning that when they have to upgrade all of these data centers with all new Nvidia chips and everything, there's going to be so much cool stuff you'll be able to buy for pennies on the dollar that you can then run at home. Because right now you're- There's a business opportunity. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:43 Re-selling these. Because what does the high-end Nvidia stuff go for $10,000, something? go for 18,000? Well, they sell most of the whole systems. Now they sell complete data centers. They're in the business of makes it hard for anyone to compete. Yeah. Well, they're going to keep that going for a while.
Starting point is 02:34:00 That is 90% of our GDP, probably. We can't ruin that. Got to keep that, got to keep that thing going. This is going to come for the new Gambit. The new chat. No, no, this one's going to break the bank. Sorry. So we don't even need a central bank.
Starting point is 02:34:18 to break us. We just need Chad GPD. That'll break us. It's going to break the bank. It's no doubt about it. I mean, the numbers don't add up. But if you only give us a little more power. A little more power, then we will finally have real intelligence.
Starting point is 02:34:37 I'm impressed, though. I'm impressed with Gemini. Yeah, I know. You've been saying this for weeks. You really like it. Well, for search, for search stuff. It's good at search stuff. I mean, and for some COVID. But how big is that market? What's the tam of coding?
Starting point is 02:34:56 It's not going to pay for it. That's for sure. No. This is a, it's a great technology, I think. I mean, you think it sucks. But I like it. And it's just, it's a super, and the reason, one of the reasons I like it is I think I sense that I'm getting,
Starting point is 02:35:14 they're shipping me money. Well, I'm not saying it sucks. I'm saying the art sucks that, that, you know, we don't have real artists anymore. We don't have, well, we actually have two today because people got so fed up of hearing the slop. But, yeah, it sucks because it's hurting the show. It's hurting the show with mediocre art that's okay. It's not crazy.
Starting point is 02:35:33 I think like that last piece that Thomas Strip blogger did of the pregnant woman in space, I think it was, you know, nobody has time to actually render that in time to get it in by the end of the show. This has made it. No, we had, lots of quick art. We had 10, 15, 20 people who would do it, and they all gave up. It has hurt the quality. They would have given up. How about this?
Starting point is 02:36:00 It would have given up anyway because it's too much work. No, no. They gave up because they... It's like the song, okay, here's the songs are a good example. Yeah. We had five years ago, we had fabulous songwriters and people doing parodies of songs and yes. Cutting in Obama's stammering and all the rest of it.
Starting point is 02:36:20 rest of it. Now, they all quit. Because they can't compete. No, they all quit before the AI started taking over. Well, that's true. They did start. They did start. I think COVID killed a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:36:34 I mean, not literally as well, but a lot of people just were, did, they, they blew their wine. AI has saved the show. Okay. Let us thank our executive and associate executive producer for episode 1834. We thank everybody $50. and above. And we start with a donation from Spain, from Valencia. And this is interesting. I think this is Eric, Jan Hubin. He's a Dutch guy. But I think he's in Valencia, but he's part-time Brazilian. It's very
Starting point is 02:37:08 confusing. And here he is. Dear John Adams, since the beginning of the No Agenda show, I'm a listener. But I've only donated $33 over 10 years ago. Well, Okay. Good to see you back on the list. I'm here by stepping up to Nighthood with this $966.66 donation. Adam may top it off to $1,000. He actually did email me about this. And I say, yes, I would drop in a silver dollar. So there it is.
Starting point is 02:37:37 As a Dutchman, I got to know the U.S. Sounds a lot like the penny. Yeah, it's, yes. I didn't have time to hit it 100 times. As a Dutchman, I got to know the U.S. in 86, 87, as a senior at Petaluma High School. Ah, Petaluma. And still remembered as the most outstanding athlete. More importantly, at the school, I wrote a paper about an ambitious New York businessman,
Starting point is 02:38:01 and I predicted that one day he would become the U.S. president. My teacher, Mrs. Paul Estonich, was really proud to read that. That would be so nice, she said, because he's German just like me. Now, almost 40 years later, I conclude that the Noah gender show is the only one that can separate the politics, the show, and the trolling by that man from New York, and that is something very much needed in today's crazy media world. Chau, says Eric. By the way, P.S., as a part-time Brazilian, I want the title, Baron of Big Beautiful Bahia,
Starting point is 02:38:37 but it seems my donation only makes me a night. In that case, I'd like to be referred as the Knight of the Big Beautiful Bahia. please add Bahia. Bahia. Bahia. Bahia. You're saying Bahia. Where is Bahia?
Starting point is 02:38:52 It's kind of north, the east of Sao Paulo. It's a big giant, it's a big state that has, that is known as you don't go there without partying 24-7-3-65. It's the party state of Brazil and Bahia. No, I'm saying it. Bahia. is very famous for music and parties. And as sound clips, he wanted Adams Birds in Space from yesterday's show with the echo effect. Well, we don't typically clip stuff out of the show because, like, wow, someone's going to request that, but I'll do it live for you.
Starting point is 02:39:33 And his second clip is Space Force, so I can do that. Birds in Space. Space Force. Nice. Sir Fat Dad. Parts Unknown, 369. He's also Sir Fat Dad of the BMX. Yes.
Starting point is 02:39:54 B.M. Mexicans. He has been a frequent supporter of the show. Yeah. BMXicans. With this donation at 369 and 69, 69, I am now two times a night, which I believe is a baronet. Gay as that title sounds. Oh, okay, gay as that title, he's got his spelled funny. I'll take it. No, that's the spelling of fake and gay, G-H-E-Y.
Starting point is 02:40:18 Is it? Yes. I've never seen a spell that. F-N-G-Y-Y-H-E-Y. That's cute. Yeah, yeah. May I please have a F-35 race karma as I am once again attempting to qualify for the USAB-M-X World Championship team in the 50-plus, wow, 50-plus cruisers category.
Starting point is 02:40:42 B.MX. Man, I'm 50 years old driving a motorcycle like a maniac. I don't know. BMX cycling championships. It's not a motorcycle. It's a, it's a bike. It's a mountain bike.
Starting point is 02:40:57 Yeah, but they do and it's rough. It's rough on the prostate. Are in Brisbane, Australia this year, and sure I won't win, but I couldn't think of a better place to get my butt whooped on a bike then on the vacation of a lifetime down under. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Starting point is 02:41:16 Rob, a.k.a. Sir Fat Dad of the BMXicans. You've got karma. Now, before we continue, did you get a bag? Did you get a bag from katydrich.com. The toiletry bag? Maybe. Kate Dietrich.
Starting point is 02:41:41 Yeah, it had the shave or stuff in it? No. I didn't have any shave. Or it's a... Oh, okay. No, this is a bag I got before. Okay, because she sent me, Kate Dietrich.net. She sent... They have no agenda, the toiletry bags now on the website.
Starting point is 02:41:58 There's the Podfather bag and the grumpy bag, I think it's called. Why am I the grump? I don't know. Go figure. But my bag included a small box of Dutch licorice and... You and your Dutch lichaelic. Yes, I know it's going to kill me. And $450 in cash.
Starting point is 02:42:20 So I wondered if you had received $450 in cash so we can credit them appropriately. I, it would be, it would have been open by, it would have been in the box. It wasn't. There was no big box in the box. So she sent it to me. So we'll, we'll make sure that gets into the, into the proper accounts. So thank you very much, Kate Dietrich.com. I don't think there was a note other than here's your bag.
Starting point is 02:42:48 Love you. Okay. Yeah. Double check that though because, you know. Well, maybe something will come. I mean, we got a donation from Jackie Green and his wife, Kyle. And she sent something. Yeah, but she said, I'm just saying she sent something about a month ago, never showed up.
Starting point is 02:43:11 I hate that. And then this, the other thing. she mails, it shows up the next day. Wow. So, Eric Dadarian's up. He's in Tramucco, Canyon, California. He is in for 4, I'm sorry, 34375. And he says, rest in peace, Scott Adams.
Starting point is 02:43:34 Oh, I'm sorry. I just read two in a row. Let me do, okay, the one I was supposed to read, that was yours. Yes. So I'm going to, so I don't want to get off. schedule. So I'm going to go to Sir Cucaracha. He was in Finland, Minnesota. The only reason is because I have the note
Starting point is 02:43:50 queued up. 33333. And he wrote a typed note that says Sir Cucaracha of the Northwoods, Finland, Minnesota nuts. And he wants noodle gun, WTC7, and F-35 Karma. ITM get mon nation. I feel like a massive douche
Starting point is 02:44:10 for not donating for so long. Please dedush me. You've been deduced. Adam, how can I donate Bitcoin to the show directly from my hardware wallet, no QR scanner? There is a link in the newsletter that is specific for this. Yep. You just go to that link. Well, does it take you to the QR scan?
Starting point is 02:44:36 He's looking for the Bitcoin wallet address, which we can certainly put on the website. No, it doesn't take it. The QR codes are on the newsletter. and then the link for people that use a computer is there too, and you click on it or you click on it, you can click on the QR codes, and it'll take you to that normal methodology. Oh, which I think is what he's looking for.
Starting point is 02:44:59 No, that's not true. What does it do? It doesn't, it just takes to the QR codes. He wants, he doesn't want to scan that little, did you take that little link at the bottom there and cut and paste it? Is this more QR codes? What link? on the newsletter in the newsletter no yeah that's what i'm talking about the newsletter i don't know what
Starting point is 02:45:28 you're talking about well my point is it's very easy for us to add that to the website it's on the newsletter and it's i think it's i think it takes us to the website which is our website which has that information i'm pretty sure okay i don't use bitcoin so i can't confirm any of this but nobody's complained about it well he is he's he's complaining about it does does he even get the newsletter But the newsletter takes you to the website, that link. And on the website, it's just the QR codes. Let me double check. That's redundant.
Starting point is 02:46:00 Does it make sense? Or click here to use Stripe. Let's see. Go there. No, no. I'll work with the day. You do fix it. Yeah, I'm going to fix it.
Starting point is 02:46:15 I found your North Sea continues, as note. I found your North Sea Nexus analysis. be particularly enlightening. I was trying to describe the Norseen nexus thesis to a friend, a friend I have tried to hit in the mouth multiple times but to no avail. He was intrigued, but I still can't get him to listen to the show. This gave me an idea for the next vacation special. Calling all No Agenda producers who are actually competent with technology. Please make a special show with all the clips discussing the North Sea Nexus. I don't know if we have two hours worth.
Starting point is 02:46:54 I don't think so. I think this could actually be a good intro show to hit some people in the mouth and leave a mark. Please credit my son Galvin with this donation towards the future knighthood. Thanks John and Adam for all the producers and the producers for everything you do to make the best podcast in the universe possible, Sir Cukaracha of the Northwoods. to shit. I got my pasta glock locked and loaded. WTC7 won't go away. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:47:39 We go to Sir Young, inkeeper of Amsterdam, 333.33. And he says, Dear Adam, I'm not sure if my note was delivered last Tuesday. In the meantime, the horrible news came in as Robert Jensen, has passed away. You and he had dinner in my restaurant together prior to COVID. Yes, I remember. He's a very nice restaurant in Amsterdam. Let's make it a Robert Jensen donation. Request Karma for my best friend Heel with love, aka Sir Young, the innkeeper of Amsterdam. Thank you very much. You've got karma. Better plug his own restaurant.
Starting point is 02:48:17 No, he doesn't like to do that. Dutch. Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina, 333.33. ITM, thank you for being the best podcast in the universe. You're welcome. I'd like to congratulate our son Jordan on getting his commercial plumbing license at 22. I don't know you needed a license to be a plumber. Can I get some goat karma for the bill, for a bill's win over the Broncos?
Starting point is 02:48:53 go bills. You've got karma. And good luck. And there we have Dame girl Kyle. Kylie. I forget now.
Starting point is 02:49:06 Kylie. I think it was Kyle. No, no. It's Kyle. Kyle. Thank you. And Sir T.G. That was the note.
Starting point is 02:49:13 Wishing you and your families and all of no agenda nation. Peace, love and good health for 2026. Dame girl Kylie and Sir Jackie Green. And the amount was 333.33.33. Thank you very much. Yeah, it was nice.
Starting point is 02:49:29 So, Joshua in Noonan, Georgia. I'm coming to you from the Chile, from Chile, Poland. He's in Poland. My only request for you is to pull up No Agenda Show episode 875 at 2 minutes, 33 seconds, and 45. Two hours, 33 minutes 45. Adam discusses the electoral process where no candidate gets to 270. Lo and behold, Adam is the reason we had Sleepy Joe as president and four years of... Adam is the reason?
Starting point is 02:50:07 Huh. And four years of stumbling and mumbling. That's your fault, Adam. And John was cheering for it too. I think you really tip the scales by cheering. for it. Thanks guys. Random Alex Jones jingle and a F-35 karma, which seems to be very popular today. This is the third time today. That's crazy. Yes. Thank you. It's a random number theory. Sir, Joshua Protector of the gun line. What is he talking about? I don't know. Apparently on show 875 at two hours,
Starting point is 02:50:40 33 minutes and 45 seconds. I mean, if you want, I can listen to that real quick for a second. N-A. What was the number? 875. Might as well check it out now. 875. Oh, there is no N.A. 875. How about that? Huh? What?
Starting point is 02:51:01 Did we miss a show somehow? The plot thickens. I'll have to look that one up and see what that was about. He wanted a random AJ and F-35. Yeah, music has made me nauseous. You thought. that one. It was random. Karma.
Starting point is 02:51:18 Random. Purely random. I doubt it. It was random. Sir Nate the Rogue in Central Point, Oregon. Oh, you're up, sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I was already off looking at episode 875. Sir Nate the Rogue, Central Point, Oregon, 225, Associate Executive Producerhip, ITM, appreciate you both suffering between dimensions. No kidding. A quick note on Iran.
Starting point is 02:51:42 I have a childhood best friend whose dad is from Iran. California now, a lot of the Persians do. He still has aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. over there, and he confirmed yesterday they're not able to contact anybody in Iran right now. Yes, we're aware. Keep the people of Iran and my thoughts. Sir Nate the rogue. Thank you very much, Sir Nate.
Starting point is 02:52:00 And there we have Linda Lopachin and Castle Rock, Colorado's $200. Jobs, karma, she says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers, Inc. With a K, and work with Linda Lou, the Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Which brings us to, uh-oh. How about that? Dana Brunetti checks in. With no note? that seems unlikely. Yeah, I mean, he'll email me about the slightest thing. But no note, $200. And he continues his streak as a mere associate executive producer.
Starting point is 02:52:56 So that is wonderful. Thank you very much, Dana Brunetti. I'm suspicious. Yeah, yeah. Schingle Springs. Is that where he is? Schingle Springs, California? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:06 Well, maybe it's him. No. Well, we'd like a note. if you somehow forgot to send us the note, Dana Burnetti, go look them up on IMDB.com. He will now be adding yet another associate executive producer title to his IMDB account. He actually has a pin to the top, which is kind of cool. And that is our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1834. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:53:32 And of course, I'll be thanking the rest of our $50 and above supporters of the show. Value for value, which means you can support us anytime you want, any amount you want, for any reason. And with these executive associate executive credits, they're good for perpetuity, and you can use them anywhere where Hollywood credits are recognized. And we thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:53:51 And, of course, we'll always read your note when you send in one of those. And again, the rest of the people, $50 and above in our second segment, thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. AI music has made me nauseous.
Starting point is 02:54:15 Shut up sleep. Still trying to find show 875. I don't know what happened. Oh, there it is. We did have show 875. What was the time code on that? Let's listen to this. The time code.
Starting point is 02:54:34 Was 2. 2.4. Oh, I get it. Hold on. Oops. Huh. Let's see. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:43 2.33.45. Okay. 233. It's tough to get there. Let's see. What were we talking about? It should be playing. Why isn't it?
Starting point is 02:54:58 Oh, here we're going to be able. Yeah. It is. It is. They didn't do it. I have an update. Do you hear about the protest? You're cutting out for some reason.
Starting point is 02:55:08 You're cutting out for some reason. Listen to how crappy this sounds. I'm cutting out. Yeah. Yeah. You're cutting out now. I'll find it for the next show. This is too much.
Starting point is 02:55:15 This is too much nonsense to listen to. But someone else said that I was right about something. else and forgot what it was. Yeah, you're right about stuff all the time. Nah, well, not really. Yeah. So, um, I have a Venezuela clip. I have, I have two TikTok clips that are interesting.
Starting point is 02:55:37 Okay. Here is the independent woman. When someone tells me that they're interested in me and I should just give them a chance, I genuinely ask them, what are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? I have an extended. routine, okay? I wake up at 4.30, I read for an hour, then I go to the gym for an hour. Then I get ready to go to my full-time job. While I'm getting ready, I make myself breakfast. Then I pack my lunch, which I have already meal prepped for myself for the full week. I go to work, I come home from work.
Starting point is 02:56:08 I come home, I go to the gym for another hour or two. Then I come back up to my apartment that I pay rent for, and I clean, I cook anything else. And then if I have any time before my 9.30 p.m. bedtime, I do another one of my many hobbies that I have, color, read, crochet, puzzle, who knows? What are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? I want something. I buy it. I pay for all my own bills. I cook for myself.
Starting point is 02:56:34 I clean for myself. What are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? Because my time is fully booked. Now that was interesting, you said? Yes, because I'm listening to this woman who is a psycho. and I'm thinking this is the perfect employee that you want to hire for a company. She's a dedicated person that's very independent. She would work her butt off until she drops dead at the company.
Starting point is 02:57:02 And she probably works cheap. I just think this to me exemplifies a modern woman who has just decided to become a cog in the wheel. And one of her hobbies is coloring, by the way, which tells you a lot. I think that's a key. Wow. The show is off the rails now. This is off the rails. What are you doing? Okay, let's play this one.
Starting point is 02:57:25 Then we're done. I won't do any more TikToks for a month. Fat, chronically ill woman. If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work. I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work. Hi, I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work. I had somebody DM me yesterday, had a message request.
Starting point is 02:57:45 Hi, I have a website. You could do that work. it's probably the same amount of work or less than making TikToks. First of all, I'm hyper-fixated on TikTok. If you don't know what that means, then you don't get to have a conversation with me. If you don't understand how that works, you don't get to have a conversation with me.
Starting point is 02:58:01 But all of my videos say, I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. Or they should. Or they imply that. I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. I am asking for money. I am asking for money specifically, because that is what I need.
Starting point is 02:58:16 If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Say again, if I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Y'all are so abusive and make yourselves believe that you're being helpful when you are just ignoring people
Starting point is 02:58:29 and imposing your own will onto them. I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Okay. And this was interesting. Why? Well, she's fat, for starters.
Starting point is 02:58:43 Well, she can do a call center work. No, she doesn't want to work. Oh. And there's a bunch of people out there like this. There's a lot of TikTokers that they, I'm not going to take a job. Why should I be working? I just want money. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:58 And it's just beyond me. And I can't quite figure it out. And you can't have a conversation with them because you don't understand anything. You're an idiot. And I just, I don't know. I'm just kind of baffled by these people out there in the wild that are doing these things. Because I know she's sincere. I don't see why you're baffled.
Starting point is 02:59:18 This has become, ever since Patreon, this has become a business model. Just send me money. Subscribe to my Patreon. I'm doing fun stuff. Send me money. This is... But she's not doing fun stuff. She's just complaining.
Starting point is 02:59:33 Well, you're entertained by... I guess that's what I do too. So I guess some people say... Put her on deck. That's right. Put her on deck. You would do an interview with her. Darren and this lady, it's going to be beautiful.
Starting point is 02:59:45 Oh, that's a great show. show. Well, along those lines, maybe we could make a Barbie doll for her. At 28 years old, Ellie Middleton says this is the first time she's seen a doll that reflects her day-to-day experience as an autistic person. She's looking off to the side slightly, which is really nice because, yeah, I basically never make eye contact. Developed with advice from the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, Autistic Barbie wears noise-canceling headphones to protect her from loud noises. Carries an A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A. AC tablet, which some autistic people used to communicate, and a pink fidget spinner that provides
Starting point is 03:00:21 an outlet for stimming or self-stimulatory behavior. I think it's so nice to see those parts of, I guess, myself that I'm maybe embarrassed of sometimes or not as proud of as I should be, but seeing those, like, as part of who she is, I think was really nice to see. Autistic Barbie follows in the footsteps of Blind Barbie, Barbie with Down syndrome, and Barbie with type 1 diabetes. Holy crap, I had no idea. They expanded the line.
Starting point is 03:00:48 Yeah. That's fantastic. We need podcaster Bobby. Barbie. That's what we need. Podcaster Barbie, influence TikTok or Barbie. Yeah. All of these.
Starting point is 03:00:58 And what you just said is money in the bank. And obese. TikTok or influencer Barbie. Obese influence who doesn't want to work Barbie. I'm telling you. Mattel give us a call. Final clip for me is this may actually lead into your Venezuela clip because I believe this is about
Starting point is 03:01:19 intelligence and secret documents regarding the Venezuela op. Members of the media expressing deep concern after the FBI took the rare step of going to the home of a Washington Post reporter and confiscating her phone and other electronic devices. After early morning FBI searched at the residence of reporter Hannah Nacensen, the Post issuing an urgent message to the staff. quote, this extraordinary aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound questions and concerned around the Constitution of protection for our work. So none of this, it wasn't a big deal when Obama did all this.
Starting point is 03:01:58 Through people in jail. He threw people in jail. But that was okay. But Trump's FBI, Trump's FBI, the FBI, looking for the goods on somebody that they have targeted, not this reporter. that's not right. Okay. I just wanted to get that straight. After early morning FBI searched at the residence of reporter Hannah Nacensen,
Starting point is 03:02:21 the post issuing an urgent message to the staff. Quote, this extraordinary aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound questions and concerned around the constitutional protections for our work. But tonight, DOJ officials pushing back, claiming that the search was necessary because the reporter had received classified information from a government contractor who was arrested last week for the unlawful retention of national defense information. Justice Department official telling ABC News at the time of his arrest, Aurelio Luis Perez Lugones was communicating with the Washington Post reporter on his mobile device,
Starting point is 03:02:59 and in the chat, there was classified information. David, Washington Post's leader said they were told the newspaper and the reporter were not targets of the investigation. But, David, this action is so rare that a number of the number. of media experts are calling it an aggressive escalation and a threat to the free press. Now, my understanding was that this guy had some information on the Venezuela op. And that that's maybe. And it tells me that you, that everything you do on your phone is pretty much public. How do they know this?
Starting point is 03:03:34 How do they know the chat? Whatever chat they were talking about. They used a signal. Signal is supposed to be end-to-end encrypted. How is it possible? Well, on the end, her end, they can look at the chat. Just look at her screen, you mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:49 Yeah. All right. Do you have the Venezuela clip? That was the idea. The Venezuela clip, I have just the update from yesterday. President Trump is announcing that what he calls a very bad leaker on Venezuela is now in jail. This is coming as the FBI searches the home of a Washington Post reporter as part of an investigation into a Pentagon contractor who allegedly leaked classified information that, Attorney General Pam Bondi says posed a risk to the nation's national security.
Starting point is 03:04:16 President Trump is also recently giving a readout of a call he had today with interim president of Venezuela, Delci Rodriguez. He says that they discussed oil, minerals, trade, and national security and touts the partnership between Venezuela and the U.S. And tomorrow the president's expected to meet with the Venezuelan opposition leader, Maria Machado here at the White House. Yeah. The more I think about Machado, who, by the way, wasn't the candidate, someone pointed out to us.
Starting point is 03:04:44 She was an organizer but was not the candidate. It was some other dude. Do you remember his name? No, I don't. But she's obviously some kind of shill. Why else would you get a peace prize? Who else got a peace prize? Let me think.
Starting point is 03:05:04 Obama. Trump doesn't, that's why he doesn't want her in there. He'll meet with her to take the peace prize from her because she's going to give it to him. But he doesn't want her running it. It makes no sense. If you win a peace prize, you're in the system, wouldn't you say? I'm not going to be able. I can't think of any reason that that's not absolutely true.
Starting point is 03:05:31 Because Obama's thing was a scam. Yeah. And so is this. He got a peace price for giving a couple. This is before he became president. Just before they had not. inaugurated him. They,
Starting point is 03:05:41 uh, he gave a bunch of speeches, you know, for about a year. And they were all just, you know, pieces, speeches about peace.
Starting point is 03:05:48 So there you get the prize just for talking about, talking a big game. Then as soon as he got in office, started bombing people. We got, it was a farce. Yes. So there's,
Starting point is 03:05:58 and also the oil baron keeps, he's very forceful with me. He's like, nobody wants to do anything in Venezuela, unless the government pays them to. There's, there's, it's,
Starting point is 03:06:09 very low reward for the risk. And the only guys who will make any money is actually, didn't the president say, oh, we're gonna, which oil company do you say they can go pound sand? Was it Exxon? No, no, definitely not Exxon. No, it wasn't Exxon. It was.
Starting point is 03:06:28 You tell them to pound sand. No, it was. Or salt in my case. Hold on a second. It was, well, those, who was it now? I can't remember. What are the big three?
Starting point is 03:06:46 Well, Chevron, who's already there, they're not being told to do anything other than what they're doing. Yeah, they just keep doing. Chevron's got the best, they got the foot hold. I thought it was Exxon. And the other big boy is,
Starting point is 03:06:56 mobile and Exxon. I thought it was Exxon mobile. Actually, Exxon Mobil, so that doesn't count. That's right. They merged. And so you have Phillips is the other big boy. Hmm. Well.
Starting point is 03:07:10 Well, Conoco Phillips, I think it's a, what it's called. The president told someone they, because they were. I think he told BP or these Europeans. Maybe it was BP. Well, anyway, but they, no, it wasn't BP. It was one of the big refiners who was already here in America, already refining this stuff. And it's like, oh, those guys aren't going to get anything from us.
Starting point is 03:07:35 I don't know. I wish I remembered. I'm sorry. I'm ill prepared. I'm trying to, but I can't find it. Thank you to the multiple military Department of Defense, 29 years of Department of Defense intelligence experience. Yep, we love people like you.
Starting point is 03:07:52 300 rounds a minute is nothing, apparently. Delta Force operators could easily achieve 650 rounds per minute. And the squad automatic weapons have a cycling rate of 450 to 500 rounds a minute, which I think kind of goes to your point that that sonic weapon and all that stuff, which some say would probably be a concussion, a flash bang without a flash, that that is indeed just a bunch of propaganda. Yeah, the scare them. Yeah, and scare the drug networks.
Starting point is 03:08:28 Yeah, and I think the guy made all the commentary, the so-called guard, you know, who said, oh, they did this and I don't want to experience that again, bleeding from my nose and my eyes, and I'm a throwing up. I mean, it's just the scare of these, you know, dumb drug dealers. Yeah, it was Exxon, John. President Trump is because... Really? Exxon of all of us? Yeah, it was Exxon.
Starting point is 03:08:50 Oh, and I wonder what happened there. But Exxon in Baton Rouge has a refinery to perfect for Venezuelan oil. So they're like, yeah, bring it on. Let someone else go do that. We're not going to do it. So it's the weirdest thing. What is oil at? Oil is like at a very low rate right now, very low price.
Starting point is 03:09:07 Yeah, that heavy stuff is still. expensive. Yeah. That's the Brent. If you look at the two prices, the West Texas WTI number is always about 10 bucks less a barrel than Brent,
Starting point is 03:09:21 which is the heavy sour crap. Well, there you go, everybody. Donate to the No Agenda show. Send some of that heavy sour crap. We'll know what to do with it. I'm going to show my food by donate to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Starting point is 03:09:39 on no agenda in the morning. Yeah, we have a few more people to thank for today's show. What is 1834? And Adam will read them off one at a time, above 50 and below 200. Yes, and we got a really long note, which I'm not going to read, because we don't have to, from Mason Strong. But Mason did say, please consider this a Scott Adams donation, and wrote a beautiful eulogy, but it's a little bit too long.
Starting point is 03:10:11 In fact, it's way too long. And he was very appreciative of what Scott Adams. It was $150 from, and Mason is in Cochran, Alberta, California. Dame Rita, sparks Nevada, $115.26 with an ITM, thank you. Pete LaShauntz, 101. And he says, God continue to bless Crackpot and Buzzkill for the best podcast in the University. He wants to know what I think of Chappelle crapping on Charlie Kirk in his new special. I have not watched that. Have you watched? I have no. For some reason, I'm like kind of, I don't desire to watch Chappelle anymore.
Starting point is 03:10:48 Well, I had that, I heard about it like a week or two ago, this new thing. And I tried to find it on Netflix and it didn't, the order was out or something. I said, I just gave up looking for it. So I didn't, I didn't see it either. Now it's there. Now it's there. By the way, did I say Alberta, California? Yeah, you did. I was going to... The problem is I can't see what it actually says on that line because that note is so long it blows out the spreadsheet. So I, because I'm going back saying, what is he talking about Alberta, California? Alberta, Canada.
Starting point is 03:11:21 Is that what he really means? You know what? Before you know it, it will be part of California. So just stick around. Sebastian Lambinon, Alicante, another Spanish supporter, 10535. And Sebastian says, Groutes out Zonach and Corrupt Spagna. So clearly a duchy saying
Starting point is 03:11:39 greetings from a sunny and corrupt Spain. Boots on the ground. Tammy Klein, Naples, Florida, 100. Jennifer Rhine from Snequalee. Snequally, Washington, 100. Douglas Rowdy Bush, Topeka, Kansas, 100. Jonathan Ferris, 8438. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, 808.
Starting point is 03:12:01 Every single episode. He comes in with a boob donation. Thank you very much. He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of America and boobs. Christian Gruelick, Winterhaven, Florida, also a boob donation. And Martin Benas sends us 808 a boob donation from Cartersville, Georgia. Mary O'Leary, Libertyville, Illinois, 75. Russell Coory from St. Cloud, Florida, is 71.
Starting point is 03:12:23 Mike Wolven from, what is this? What is the address in there? Minnesota. Don't do that. What's that doing there? Don't put your address in there. 68.57. Tom Ross from Silmar, Silmar, California, 6633.
Starting point is 03:12:43 Stephen Shoemaker. I think it's Shoemaker. It's Shoemaker, yeah. Zinia, Ohio, 64. The reason that happens, that's this check that comes in. And when Jay has the hand at it, she naturally occasionally, but not always puts what it should be, which is Shoemaker. There you go.
Starting point is 03:13:01 Sir Don Francis, the small boobs. He says love is lit. He is the Baron of Shandler. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, Small Boobes, 60. Jimmy Beckner, West Point, California, 60. Nancy Murphy, 57, 21. Christopher Dexter 5, 6, 7, 8. We see what you did there. Thank you. Paul Erskine. I think it's Erskine. Erskine. Lake Forest Park, Washington, 5577.77. Gisla Wuzzi, Wuzzi. North...
Starting point is 03:13:32 Giselle? Gisela? I would say Gisela. Maybe. Maybe Gisela. I think Gisela. Yeah, Gisela. Gisela, yes, you're probably right.
Starting point is 03:13:41 Yeah. I think it would be Gisler. North Royalton, Ohio, 55, 55. Happy birthday to my amazing husband, Tom, celebrating the Big 55 on January 17th. He's on the birthday list. He is my favorite human, and she says, Tom, you are truly a no agenda night in my heart,
Starting point is 03:13:57 and I'm so grateful to do life with you. Here's to another great year. head. And she thanks us for keeping them both sane and endlessly entertained. Sir Austin, Baron of the Puget Sound, double nickels on the dime. Charles Tracy from Hickory, North Carolina, 55, Lake Munnell, Luke, Los Angeles, California, 52, 72, Youp Kart, which means Joe Card, from Den Haag, in the Netherlands. And he says, hey, I'll read it in Dutch. Hoi, Papa, von Hart to Felisier, but your 50th birthday, Groutious from Youep. And that means happy birthday, Dad, with your 50th birthday.
Starting point is 03:14:33 And he said, please read it in Dutch. I did it. And his dad's name is Marnix. He turns 50 tomorrow, January 16th. And he's on the list. So economic hitman, Tombalt, Texas, $50 and one penny. Gary Mao, Woodland Hills, California, 50, these are all the 50s. Dame Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida, Brandon Sevois, Port Orchard, Washington, Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina.
Starting point is 03:14:58 these names are always on our donation list. Yeah, you're running a series of them. They're all, we know every one of them. Yes, and thank you. We love you so much for supporting us. And there's room for more people. There is room for more people to support us. Go read the newsletter.
Starting point is 03:15:15 Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina, Diane Schwanne Schwannebec, Johnsburg, Illinois, Chris Lewinsky, Sherwood Park, Alberta, Philip Ballou, Louisville, Kentucky, easy landscapes, North Stonington, Connecticut, Stuart Fawcett, Liverpool. Oh, the Merseyside. Great Britain checking in. Brian Bellin, $50. And he says, with this, I'm a little over the 1K mark.
Starting point is 03:15:37 Please, knight me, Sir Brian of Aspery. No jingles. He does have a request for Guinness and Blue Cheese Burgers. Ugh. He says, people. I don't like Blue Cheese on my burgers. For some reason, this doesn't sound. I like Blue Cheese, but not the burgers.
Starting point is 03:15:55 And he says, please support the greatest podcast in the universe. Zach Matthews, Caldwell, Idaho, Magin Sanchez, Magin Sanchez from Loma Linda, California. SFW funded Hulinar in Arnhem, the Netherlands. And he sent me a note about the new Valve steam machine, you know, the gaming console. Yeah. It's all built on Linux and no AI. No mention of AI anywhere. Good.
Starting point is 03:16:25 Well, go play those games. We'll see. $50 from someone on strike, no note. And Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton, Oregon winds up our $50 donors. And we thank, of course, everybody who came in under $50. We do not read them for reasons of anonymity. He's Baron. We'll give Alan Bean baron now.
Starting point is 03:16:44 Oh, he's baron. Baron, Alan Bean. Wow. Put it in your note, man. He's another guy who comes in as a check so the bank won't do it. What? He's another guy that's been donating. He donated when we first asked for donations.
Starting point is 03:17:01 Was he one of the first ones? He was one of the first ones. He was lived in Oakland. And he never showed up to any meetups. He lived in Oakland. And he sent a $1.50 check. And he says, I'll send you one of these every month for as long as you stay good. Stay good.
Starting point is 03:17:19 As long as the show is good. Well, there you go. Proof. He has been giving us $50 a month for, I don't know, 16 years. years? Well, if it was from show one, then it was longer than 16 years. No, it wasn't from show one. It was when we first asked for money.
Starting point is 03:17:33 Oh, well, we started asking for money sooner than two years in. Well, you're probably right. Knowing you for sure. Well, somebody's got to do it. But immediately, he sent in a check for 50 bucks and said, well, I'll keep sending these checks in as long as the show stays great. Now, are they handwritten checks or bank checks? Yeah, yeah, they're handwritten checks.
Starting point is 03:17:54 So it's not like he's just dead and it's just on an automatic renewal? No, no, they so checks it with a signature on it. It could be AI, I don't know, maybe, no. Autopenn. He's doing fine. Thank you very much. We really appreciate you, Baron.
Starting point is 03:18:10 We appreciate everybody who supports the best podcast in the universe. Go to no agenda donations.com. You can support us in many different ways with dollar-re-dos, with dollars, with Bitcoin, with stablecoin, you name it. It's all there. And, of course, we love it when you send us checks because there's absolutely no fees and it's a great way to send this a note as well. Noagendadonations.com.
Starting point is 03:18:31 Consider setting up a recurring donation, please check if you have one because credit cards do expire. Go to noagendidonations.com. It's your birthday, birthday on no agenda. And her very own Melody, David Kekta, says, happy birthday to his awesome stepdaughter Bella Green. She turns 24 on the 8. Oh, and she turned 24 on December 18th.
Starting point is 03:18:56 Just in time, David. Sir Bing of the BMWs and Bulldogs, happy birthday to his delightful dad, Gary. He turned 70 on January 9th. The U-Cardt. Happy birthday to Marnix, turning 50 on January 16th. So tomorrow, and Gisela Woodses says, happy birthday to our amazing husband, Tom.
Starting point is 03:19:16 He turns 55 on the 17th. And congratulations. We say happy birthday to everybody right here from the FIS podcast in the universe. And we have to do to do two, title changes. Turn and faceless legs. Nice changes. Don't want to be a douche.
Starting point is 03:19:36 And we congratulate, sir, fat dad of the BMXicans with his upgrade. Thanks to an additional $1,000 in support to the NOAA Gena show. So today he becomes a baronet, and I'm sure we will see him reaching for the stars as he continues. Thank you so much, sir, fat dad of the BMXicans. He actually sent me a picture once. He's not all that fat. He's pretty good looking for his BMX body. Three nights.
Starting point is 03:20:03 So bring out your blade. We got three night blade. There it is. Eric Jan Hubin. Troll Meggui. I got to read this note in a minute. And Brian Bellin, all of you, hop up on the podium here. All three of you, thanks to your support the Noah Jenna show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
Starting point is 03:20:19 You now are becoming Knights of the Noagena Roundtable. I am proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Eric. of the big, beautiful Bahia, Sir Eugene of the tulip stems, and Sir Brian of Asprey. For you gentlemen, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay, caparina and coconut flakes,
Starting point is 03:20:38 Guinness and Blue Cheese Burgers. We've got redheads and ryes, beers and blunts. We've got cowgirls and coughative arnors. We've got ginger ale and gerbils. And, of course, always here at the round table, mutton and mead for all three of you.
Starting point is 03:20:51 Go to Knowagenda Rings.com. And take a look at that handsome signet ring that you can. now send away for with your, it's only just give us our, give us your, uh, ring size and an address to send it to. And it comes with a certificate of authenticity and, of course,
Starting point is 03:21:08 some wax to seal your important correspondence with. Um, this is from troll mech guy. This is, he was a layaway knight. So already knighted him. And he realizes that he made his 33, $33 and $33.33 cent PayPal donation. And by his accounts, he's a knight. He found the show through Megan Kelly. I'm from New Zealand, Michigan, near Holland, Michigan,
Starting point is 03:21:29 which is the Little Netherlands of the Great Lakes. So please knight me, Sir Eugene of the tulip stems. You have been knighted as such. At the round table, he wants bangers and mash and a side of Balkan Bray to drink a Miller light and a shot of fireball. Can we get that over there for him? Yes, I'm going to care of. Thank you very much. And he says, we need a Scott jingle.
Starting point is 03:21:51 Well, if anyone comes up with them, we'll be happy to use it. Noagendadonations.com to become a knight, to become anything on the peerage ladder, and we just appreciate all the support. No agenda. Yes, the meetups continue. This is where you can meet children from other lands. And you need to, from time to time, get out of the house, go say hi to some people who will be in the same frame of mind as you are. These are the no agenda meetups, no agenda producers meet everywhere around the world, including today at Charlotte's Thursday, Thursday, monthly meetup. 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Starting point is 03:22:34 On Saturday, the Fort Wayne Club 33, January, 2026, kick off the new year. Kick the New Year off N.A. style will be starting at 1 o'clock, and that is at Shiggs in pit, hmm, barbecue and brew in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And on Sunday, our next show day, the get-sur-dray of the empty PayPal and broken brain out of the house meetup. This is in the Netherlands, 4 p.m. at Woke Wintertime. I'm Gitmo Lowlands in De Hiren from Bergen-Dahl. Those guys always have a good party. There's a lot of people that show up,
Starting point is 03:23:07 and they will send us a meter up report. I'm looking forward to it. Coming up on the 27th, 22nd, South Paulo, Brazil. Please send us a meter of report from Brazil. The 23rd, Fort Dodge, Iowa. 25th, Indianapolis, 29th, Alfred of Georgia, 31st, Oakland, California, and the 31st as well, Wilmington, California.
Starting point is 03:23:25 There are many more meetups for you to go and visit anywhere around the world. Hey, if it's not in your country, not in your town, no problem. You can set one up yourself. Go to no agenda meetups.com to learn more about it. No agenda meetups. They are a connection that gives you protection. These people will be your first responders in emergency. Go to noagenda meetups.com.
Starting point is 03:23:46 Fun, easy, and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. Don't be. You want to be where everybody feels the same. Before we get to John's tip of the day in our end-of-show mixes, which are not all AI. I warn you in advance, some stuff you'll probably actually like. We always like to select the end-of-show ISO in this portion of the segment. I have three.
Starting point is 03:24:22 You have two. Do you want to go first? No, because I like the bump mine. Okay. Here's number one. Like, I genuinely think it's hilarious. Nah, nah, I don't even like that one. We try this one.
Starting point is 03:24:35 You guys have had a most magnificent season. Season. This is the one. These two got it. Come on. Okay. Okay, what? You got it.
Starting point is 03:24:50 You're not even going to play yours? I'm bump in mind. All right. Well, we move straight on to our last segment, John's tip of the day. Great five for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. All right.
Starting point is 03:25:09 This website, people should have on their list of websites they go to routinely. It's called SnapFiles. SnapFiles. Yeah, SnapFiles. This is a listing of the current, the current SnapFiles.com. The current freeware and shareware products that are out there, the latest versions. Haven't you done this one before? No, I don't think so. I've done other stuff, similar, but not this one. This is different. All right. This basically keeps up with stuff. So you get, for example, you have, although this is a
Starting point is 03:25:43 different list than it was the last time I looked because it keeps changing daily. You have like the latest VLN and some of these other products that you should be using for it. And this, this products you never think of using. It's just a good website to get, they have a freeware pick. These are software systems that are free. You don't have to pay money.
Starting point is 03:26:06 Free like AI free? Free. Well, no, AI is a negative free. Yeah. Well, what does it have on here? What does it have on it? Freeware. Oh, shareware.
Starting point is 03:26:17 So they still list shareware? That's still a thing? Yeah, well, it is. Huh. This site looks like it's from 1987. Yeah, well, that's because it's probably made with shareware. Nobody said shareware is modern. Shareware.
Starting point is 03:26:33 That was great, wasn't it? Shareware. Shareware. What do you have under shareware? We have anti-spam tools. Well, they still have Outlook add-ons, really? Yeah. Hey, it's for a real computer enthusiast.
Starting point is 03:26:48 And there's freeware. Oh, man, my favorite freeware, open source, formerly known as freeware. Wow. Will this load on Windows? Or do you need Windows 3.1 to use it? No, it loads fine. Okay. There it is.
Starting point is 03:27:06 Your tip of the day. Find them all at noagenda fun.com. Tip of the day. Dot net. Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnettie. If you stay tuned to the No Agenda Stream,
Starting point is 03:27:24 noagendaStream.com, you will hear up next on the stream, who are these broadcasters? I've not heard this, I've I heard this podcast. Who are these podcasters? No, who are these broadcasters? I think it's the same guys. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:27:39 Nikki Glazers, Golden Globes, and a crybaby takes over. CBS. No, yeah, we didn't do anything on the globe. You know, it's interesting to note that we've stopped covering the award shows completely on this show. We used to mock them. Well, because they had shills with a podcast award and Snoop Dog awarded it. And as far as I'm concerned, if Joe Rogan is nominated, it's bogus. I agree with that. And us, of course. It's totally bogus. So sorry, M5M. We're not promoting you. End of show mixes. MVP, Bonnelled Crabtree. and Baron Noah Vattenmacher, the Sierra Batholith, all coming up,
Starting point is 03:28:17 and we will return on Sunday to bring you at least three hours of the best podcast in the universe and media deconstruction. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. DeVorek. We'll see you here on Sunday. Please remember us. Support the show at noagendaddonations.com. Value for value, any amount, any time, any time.
Starting point is 03:28:43 you want to. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey, and such. Yo, yo, you, listen to me. Slaves, I'm not going to boast. We're adding a new star to the flag we love the most. And all the true coins
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Starting point is 03:30:01 To the Union. Other countries had against their government tips in one form or another. What business wasn't of ours anyway and suddenly broke up? Cleveland, all within a few days of each other. It was as though an unseen hand had given the signal. In August 18, 1965, guns replaced nightsticks in the hands of law enforcement officers as the Watts area of Los Angeles literally burst into a cold run. of insurrection
Starting point is 03:31:44 roamed the streets both night and day smashing and looting and setting the torch to over 50 square miles of the city hidden snipers held police and firefighters
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