No Agenda - 1846 - "Thumbstick Flick"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, today's Redhead Day. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, February 26, 2026. This is your award-winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1846. This is no agenda. Guilty until proven innocent. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas new country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 00:00:23 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we demand accountability. I'm John C. DeVore. It's crackpot and buzzkill In the morning Yeah, you did it, man. You did it now. You did it now. What?

Starting point is 00:00:42 You did it. Your entire Hoare Island thesis has thrown the show into a tailspin. Did you not receive any emails at all? Yeah, I got a couple. I mean, I got to, let's see. I'm just looking from my Twitter timeline today. Something simply isn't right about the show. What the hell is happening?

Starting point is 00:01:07 Here's another one. It's truly sad. The show used to be a one-of-a-kind breakdown of the news cycle and just enough crackpot to keep it interesting and open. I personally believe that after journalist Jamie White was murdered, it was a cue to stop talking about certain subjects. This show sucks now. I did not get that one. Oh, this is public. This is just on my timeline.

Starting point is 00:01:30 Oh, you always see something somebody's bitching. Okay. Oh, well, I mean, it's, it's nonstop. It's all, I can't even go to Twitter anymore. It's like people just hate me. Huh. Yeah. Well, they should hate you for letting me talk like this. They hate me for something you say. Here's my favorite. Here's my favorite. What kind of Christian are you? There's a mountain of evidence in the P. Diddy and Epstein cases showing their deep involvement in satanic cults and sex magic rituals. Yet, for some. reason. You keep trying to sell us on the idea they were merely rich guys having orgies. It really makes me question

Starting point is 00:02:10 who you really pray to. Why have you laughed at it? Like our government is not full of satanic creeps. Surely, you know the truth. So stuff like this. And then, it's running away into podcasts.

Starting point is 00:02:28 This is the coffee and a mic podcast. To separate whether I can talk to somebody and judge whether they know what's going on, or even if they're, like, controlled opposition is, does Israel control the United States or does the United States control Israel? Because if you tell me the United States controls Israel, one, I either think you're ignorant, or two, I think you're working for them. You know, I mean, one of the biggest podcasts in the world is no agenda.

Starting point is 00:02:57 and after what I've heard on that show over the last year. I mean, I'm trying to get people to run away from that. Adam Curry and John C. DeVorek. I mean, just this past Saturday, a Sunday's episode, they were completely excusing. They were saying, oh, there were no underage girls with Epstein. Epstein mentions it in the freaking that I provide children. Like Michael Tracy.

Starting point is 00:03:27 Michael Tracy has been out there denying the undeniable. And people are like, you know, and you have the Michael Tracy. Why do they think that works? I'm baffled by that because it seems to me that conceding something would give you enhanced credibility, right? And there it is. Conceding. Conceding into audience capture.

Starting point is 00:03:53 Exactly. Wouldn't it make sense that it? if we really were going for the gold that we just say, oh, yeah, yeah, this is what we believe when we clearly believe other things. And we've been controversial throughout almost. It's hardly controversial. Oh, it's extremely controversial. Oh, too maniacs.

Starting point is 00:04:18 No, you have no idea. This guy with his, oh, you know, I don't understand how it's even possible that anyone doesn't believe. that Israel controls the United States because, hell, you know, there's a small little country in the middle of nowhere, and they're telling us what to do. Why won't they tell us to give them even more money? I don't see us doing that. We're the biggest, we have a $1 trillion defense budget.

Starting point is 00:04:44 We're the biggest market in the world, and they're telling us what to do, and that makes sense to you? I think that, well, of course not. But that's the point. No, not you. I'm talking to the you. No, I know, but there's a complete lack of critical thinking. And it comes from this beautiful confluence of years of QAnon, babies being shipped in wayfair containers.

Starting point is 00:05:11 Remember that one? Everybody was all in on that one. Why could it cost $13,000? Hmm. Hmm. into Epstein, who everybody was convinced that he was blackmailing people, convinced. You know, throw in a little bit of Whitney Webb. And by the way, she's having a big fight with Glenn Greenwald.

Starting point is 00:05:33 I don't know if you saw that. Glenn Greenwald's like, you wrote stuff about me in 2013. There was utter bull crap, so I can't trust you anymore, whatever you're right. There's just, it's like we've gone into conspiracy overdrive. and when the two sanest voices is Adam and John, you got to stop for a second. I think, hmm, I wonder why those guys are saying what they actually think. And now what everybody wants them to say.

Starting point is 00:06:02 So let's clarify at least one thing. We never said that there's no underage girls involved. In fact, if you look at anything having to do with prostitution whatsoever, you find that it's dominated by underage girls. And there's report after report, which I actually did a printout. of the United Nations and other groups have done this, that the average typical underage girl involved in prostitution is to run away. There's all kinds of issues with them, and they're 15, but average, average 15.

Starting point is 00:06:32 So this is not what we're talking about. But let me read you this note from a one of our listeners, one of our producers, Chester. Hey, John, I appreciated your take on Epstein. I was at a dinner a few weeks ago with several people, including a former high-end sex worker. He now. Who explained her opinion on Jeffrey E. And the island, which was pretty much the same as yours.

Starting point is 00:07:00 Nobody at the table seemed to scandalized, but they weren't agreeing either. I think I said something non-committal like, oh, maybe. But the conversation stuck in my head, so I was receptive when I heard your rundown. In other words, he heard her first than me. Oh, okay. interesting. So I made an audio clip of you expounding on the matter and sent it to her in an email, and she responded, quote.

Starting point is 00:07:29 Oh. So we have a, we have our, she should be listening to the show. Yeah, I hope so. Send a pick. I am glad someone is speaking up about the e-matter in a sane fashion. I think the Epstein spectacle is quite anti-Semitic. Oh, hey, no. Turning one lone individual into a central figure in a conspiracy that involves money and finance,

Starting point is 00:07:56 forcing every person who knows him to explain how he came to be tainted by this scapegoat who just happened to be Jewish. Give me a break. It's obvious. And then she says it's an unhealthy blend of anti-Semitic paranoia, Salem witch trial methods, sex phobia plus women of a certain age hating the existence of younger women in men's lives, just perfect. Some of those mean-spirited women claiming to be concerned about vulnerable younger ladies are older sex workers. End of quote. Yeah. So.

Starting point is 00:08:43 No, I'm, the more I thought about what you say. First of all, yeah, the Epstein files are filled with all kinds of crazy stuff. Anybody's email, if they ever get a hold of my email, the stuff I haven't nuked on my own server, people send me the craziest stuff. You know, you look at that like, oh, what's going on here? Do I think Epstein was creepy? Absolutely. Do I think...

Starting point is 00:09:08 Oh, yeah, sure he was. You could take a look at me as creepy. People are creeps. And there are lots of people like that. And in fact, the Department of Justice and Sheriff's Office around the country continuously round up people like that gets almost no mention because, you know, it's not Trump or it's not billionaires, et cetera. So, and this, I have to agree with the president. This is a, and he calls it a Democrat hoax. It's a Democrat strategy and they're using it quite effectively.

Starting point is 00:09:40 So there is one case now that everybody's honing. in on about this 13-year-old. And Anderson Pooper leads the charge, and then we'll talk about this and what the facts of the case are, not just what people are saying. We begin tonight, keeping them honest, with the name that was not spoken in the last night stated the union message, Jeffrey Epstein. That and the name that we learned today has turned up in FBI records missing from the Epstein files, Donald Trump.

Starting point is 00:10:09 We know this because a numbered evidence log in the Glein Maxwell case catalogs about 325 FBI witness interviews. But of that number, more than 90 do not appear to be present on the Justice Department's website. And three of those witness interviews are related to a woman who told agents that Jeffrey Epstein had repeatedly abused her, starting when she was approximately 13 years old. She also accused Trump of sexually assaulting her. Now, we should point out here, the president has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection with Jeffrey Epstein, and the White House is calling the allegations, quote, false and sensational. We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats do.

Starting point is 00:10:46 I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. You just keep going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is is a Democrat hoax. The president, as you know, has been treating the files as the ultimate not guilty verdict. I have nothing to hide. I've been exonerated. I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And I've been totally exonerated.

Starting point is 00:11:04 And I've been totally exonerated. I've been totally exonerated on Epstein. Well, you know, I'm the expert in a way because I've been totally exonerated. But I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated. Well, keep it honest, that might be easier to say if the public had access to everything the federal government has on Epstein, Maxwell, and the many powerful people they moved among. Then, Citizen Trump included, who again says he did nothing wrong. So now you've got to add one more thing to the Epstein conspiracy that involves all the billionaires,

Starting point is 00:11:33 the elites, and everybody that, of course, is not with high-end escorts. No, no, no, it's all children and it's eating babies. and the biggest offender of this, and I almost have to think she was doing it on purpose, is our AG Barbie. These latest allegations first arose in July of 2019 just days after Epstein's arrest on federal charges. A woman called an FBI tip line. Agents interviewed her two weeks later, during which she told them Epstein had repeatedly abused her at home he was staying at in South Carolina. The abuse started, she said, when she was about 13 years old.

Starting point is 00:12:10 Now, according to the FBI interview record, a form known as a 302 when she showed agents a photo of Trump and Epstein that a friend had sent her. Her attorney said that she was, quote, concerned about implicating additional individuals and specifically any that were well known due to a fear of retaliation. The Maxwell evidence log notes three additional 302 forms dated in August and October 2019 related to the same alleged victim, as well as three other sets of interview notes. Now, none of those appear to be present in the files released by the DOJ. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have now said the release files, which took an act of Congress to get released, are not all there is. And it's been more than a year since the Attorney General said this on Fox News. Here we go. Tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office.

Starting point is 00:13:04 It's sitting on my desk right now to review. A truckload of evidence arrived. It's now in the possession of the FBI. It's a new day. It's a new administration. And everything's going to come out to the public. So that, of course, was the dumbest thing she could have ever done. Either she's a complete idiot or she's working for the Democrats as far as I'm concerned

Starting point is 00:13:29 because she at least should have known she had nothing. All the stuff she put in the binders was known for a long time. A final clip here about the DOJ. That said, for the most part, the files we've seen have been notable for the absence of names hidden behind redactions, which both Republican Thomas Massey and Democrat Rokana both say conceal potential co-conspirators. And to the files we've seen, you can now add the ones that are missing. Reading now from the Justice Department's statement of them, several individuals and news outlets have recently flagged files related to documents produced to Galane Maxwell

Starting point is 00:14:04 in discovery of her criminal case that they claim appear to be. be missing. As with all documents that have been flagged by the public, the department is currently reviewing files within that category of the production. Should any document be found to have been improperly tagged in the review process and is responsive to the act, the department will, of course, publish it consistent with the law. So they continue to bumble along, putting things out, pulling them back, putting them back in, pulling them out, and the Democrats are loving this. As the Jeffrey Epstein scandal continues to dog the Trump administration, Democratic lawmakers say that the U.S. government is withholding evidence that could implicate the president

Starting point is 00:14:42 in criminal activity. These are the files that the FBI has removed from their public Department of Justice database. The yellow files here are the files that President Trump is hiding. The yellow files here are investigations with a woman who was abused as a minor and who alleged that Donald Trump was her abuser. Dozens of FBI witness interviews appear to be missing from public records, according to U.S. media reports. And numerous alleged victims say they cannot find their testimonies in the 3 million new documents released by the Department of Justice at the end of January. At the State of the Union on Tuesday, Democratic lawmakers wore pins demanding the release

Starting point is 00:15:23 of the missing files and brought a dozen Epstein accusers as their guests. Where are the rest of the files? The truth must come out. Why are there no investigations? when there are plenty of people in these files to investigate. Since the files have been made public, there have been high-profile arrests and investigations around the world into those named in the documents.

Starting point is 00:15:50 But no such investigation has been opened in the United States. The White House has dismissed claims of Trump's involvement with Epstein's criminal sex ring is false and sensationalist, and the president did not mention the late sex offender in his speech. In response to the allegations, the Department of Justice denied any wrongdoing, saying that any missing documents were either duplicates are part of an ongoing federal investigation. All right, so let's talk about the 13-year-old for a second,

Starting point is 00:16:16 because what we're missing here is these so-called victims and how old they were and what they were a victim of. And let's also mention the fact that we're dealing with a use of language, which the Democrats are quite good over the left in general is good at, and changing a customer of a prostitute, to an abuse, changing the name of a John to an abuser, and changing the name of a sex worker to a victim. Yes. Let's talk about...

Starting point is 00:16:48 So when you say victim, victim, victim, these... Now, the question that never seems to be brought up, does anyone ever ask any of the women who are, or that have been kind of sequestered to complain about this a lot? Have you paid any money for this process of abuse? And how old were you? And how old were you at the time? And were you paid any money? I honestly, I don't want to sound callous, but I almost believe that these women found out what was being charged by the system,

Starting point is 00:17:25 by what I'd call a whorehouse, and what they were getting, and they felt jipped. Well, the timing of them coming out is always interesting. But I want to go to the 13-year-old because this is not a case that is unknown to us, to the show even, often referred to as the Katie Johnson lawsuit, or Jane Doe, it was for a long time, was filed in 2016, alleging incidents that took place in the summer of 1994 at Epstein's Manhattan Pad, the victim, a 13-year-old girl using the pseudonym Jane Doe slash Katie Johnson, and claimed she was recruited under the guise of a modeling career.

Starting point is 00:18:06 She alleged she was sexually abused by both Epstein and Trump on multiple occasions. Most notably, she claimed that during a fourth encounter, Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her while she pleaded for him to stop. And this lawsuit included a sworn statement from a Tiffany Doe, so a pseudonym, who claimed to be a party planner for Epstein and said she had personally witnessed the abuse. And the plaintiff said that Trump had threatened to have her and her family killed if she ever spoke out, citing a 12-year-old girl named Maria who had supposedly disappeared after similar instances. So this suit was first filed in California in 2016, dismissed by a California judge, refiled in 2016 in New York, October 2016.

Starting point is 00:18:59 There was a press conference scheduled. I remember this. by her then attorney Lisa Bloom. Remember the Lisa Bloom, the famous famous attorney? Yes, the famous Lisa Bloom. This is when the plaintiff was going public, but the press conference was canceled. Very last minute, she stated her client was living in fear due to death threats. Then November 4th, days before the presidential election, the lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiff's legal team without any public explanation.

Starting point is 00:19:29 So there was no evidence. The lawsuit was withdrawn, but here's the fun part. Norm Leboe. Does that name ring any bells for you? No. He was a TV producer, crack smoke and TV producer who did sensationalist stories about celebrities. He worked for the Jerry Springer show. He's the guy that started all of this.

Starting point is 00:19:56 He's the one that started publishing art. articles. He's the one, he is behind a lot of these things, you know, that Kirk Cobain was killed by his wife, this kind of stuff. So a lawsuit that was put in withdrawn right before the elections, the whole thing is very, very flimsy at best. So, you know, okay, show me something. Show me something that's real, not some email that says, ah, I got a tort. torture video. Well, we already discussed that. Have you looked at Pornhub? So, yes, Jeffrey EFstein was a creep. In my personal opinion, any older guy who wants to have sex with a 16, 17, 18 year old, probably legal in the states that were doing it or in an island, you know, they got a lot of

Starting point is 00:20:55 problems. But if it was for money, well, there's other discussions that need to be had. But the whole thing is being manipulated and turned into a strategy for the Democrat Party. Yeah, it's a total, this is the, this is the Russian hoax. This is the Russian hoax of the second administration. Russian hoax is over. They can't talk about it anymore. I'm still lingering effects of it. People still believe it.

Starting point is 00:21:24 And this is the new one. And this came up. This is the Trump screws little kids. and he's a rapist. A hoax. I think it's going even further, and it's really interesting. And I see people all over the political spectrum falling for this. I think many of our own listeners, or maybe former listeners.

Starting point is 00:21:45 Well, obviously some of our own listeners would fall for it. And the idea here is all billionaires, anybody who is power is a billionaire, is successful, they're all in cahoots with Trump, and they're going to get, Seriously. And you need to, these people are the problem. They're the Silicon Valley guys. If you're Silicon Valley and you're Jewish, you got two strikes against you, Zuckerberg, Teal, all these guys. They're all in cahoots with Trump and Trump is protecting them. And this was completely laid out by none other than the twerp. Candelisa Rice, Condoleezza. Condoleezza. Condice. Condi.

Starting point is 00:22:27 Well, she's not the twerp. Susan Rice is the twerp. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, she's a twerp too. Condoleezza Rice, who wrote herself an email to be able to say later. Yeah, no, all that. No, no, no, that's not Condoleezza Rice. Was that Susan Rice? That's Susan Rice. Condal Lisa Rice is the old.

Starting point is 00:22:48 She worked in the Bush administration. She's a tall woman. She teaches at Stanford. Well, she's a problem. What does she do? Listen. Listen to what she said on this podcast with Preach Bahara. And she's teeing it up.

Starting point is 00:23:03 She's teeing it up for the Democrat Party. Has the first year approximated what you expected? Has it been less bad than you expected or worse? Well, I expected it to be very bad. Susan Rice, not Condoleezza Rice. Isn't this Condi? I think this is Condoleezza Rice. No, this is Susan Rice.

Starting point is 00:23:26 Condoleezza Rice isn't even in this story. I thought this was, it's a rice lady. This is the twerp. This is the twerp. I knew it. I just had the name wrong. It's Susan Rice then. Are you sure it's not Condoleza Rice?

Starting point is 00:23:38 Condoleza Rice is a tall woman with a big square head. Well, she's sitting down. Like a patrician. I'm pretty sure this is Condoleza Rice. Yes. I clipped it myself. Did you, did you, Did you visually see the person?

Starting point is 00:24:00 Yes. Well, she was sitting down so I couldn't tell if she was tiny or not. Yes. This is Condoleza Rice. No, it's not Condoleza Rice. And I hate the fact that I have to contradict you on this because Condoleezza Rice is not involved in any of this and it's ruining your point. I don't, well, let me go look at my history.

Starting point is 00:24:27 I'm 99% certain. This is Condoleezza Rice. talking and she may ruin my uh here she is this is susan rice you're right okay thank you for catching that thank you for saving me it's susan rice so is my point valid again now well the problem is that you know you when you miss step when you're making a good argument a good argument and then I ruin it by... And then you misstep by bringing in somebody that's got nothing to do with anything because of a mistake and last... The names being similar.

Starting point is 00:25:06 I didn't even think about that. So here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do. We'll cut all that out of the show. You're not cutting out. No one will ever know. Susan Rice, who I had this clip in the last show. She is a drip.

Starting point is 00:25:17 Well, I have four clips because it was super interesting all the things she actually said. I was like, holy moly. She's part of the scheme. She is, and she's the one that wrote the email, correct? to herself? Yes, she's the one who wrote the cover your ass email at the end of her term. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's Susan Rice.

Starting point is 00:25:37 Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice was out of business 10 years earlier. Condoleezza Rice is dead to me. Okay, she's dead to me. It doesn't exist. Susan Rice, Susan Rice, teeing it up for the Democrat Party. Has the first year approximated what you expected? Has it been less bad than you expected or worse?

Starting point is 00:25:55 Well, I expected it to be very bad. And I guess I would confess that it's probably worse than I anticipated. But not because they're doing things that surprised me. They told us exactly what they were going to do. You know, we recall Trump saying multiple times on the campaign trail, if you vote for me that this one time you'll never have to vote again. Or his, you know, pledge to use the American military against the, quote, enemy within. You know, you had Stephen Miller foreshadowing not only the use of the Insurrection Act, but potentially the suspension of habeas corpus and the imposition of martial law.

Starting point is 00:26:38 All of these are, you know, they tell you interestingly where they intend to head, but what surprised me is the speed and the efficacy of their efforts to do what they set out to do. and the fact that they have faced very little resistance from members of their own party, from the private sector, from civil society leaders and university heads and law firms and all of the, you know, the pillars of society, media that have, you know, rolled over and played dead or hidden under rocks. Yeah, I love this. So she sets it up by saying, Project 2025, we all knew it. they've held to it entirely, completely to it, and they're going to get theirs. Do you think that after a year of this?

Starting point is 00:27:30 Wait, I can misclip this somehow, probably. Whether you're university, whether you're... Sorry about that. Play a long game, not this short game that has been so detrimental. So, very specifically, if the house changes hands in a few months, what should be the top priority or two in terms of that accountability, that you're speaking of for Democratic leadership in the House? Well, first of all, when the Democrats win the House, which I believe they will and possibly the Senate,

Starting point is 00:28:03 they need to appropriately focus on the needs of the American people, which Donald Trump and the Republicans could give a damn about, whether it's health care, housing costs, food prices, electricity prices, runaway tech companies that are, you know, lining their own pockets at the expense of our children, our jobs, maybe even our very existential future. Existential future. There's a lot of stuff that we need to do in service of the American people. But in addition to that, there will be an accountability agenda. You know, companies already are starting to hear.

Starting point is 00:28:46 They better preserve their documents. They better be ready for subpoenas. If they've done something wrong, they'll be held accountable. And if they haven't broken the law, good for them. If they've done the right things, good for them. That also will be noted and remembered. But, you know, this is not going to be an instance of, you know, forgive and forget. The damage that these people are doing is too severe.

Starting point is 00:29:16 to the American people and to our national interest. She's threatening everybody, but she's really confirming to the Democrat Party and the people who vote Democrat, but also to anybody who is whipped up into this Epstein thing, you've got to hate these people. You've got to hate billionaires. You've got to hate tech companies,

Starting point is 00:29:39 which is so inherently un-American. You know, I grew up like, hey, you see, that guy the Rolls Royce? Hey, you could be that guy. This is America. But now everybody who's successful, everybody who's doing anything with Trump, anybody who's been helping him out, we're going to get you. We're going to get you and everybody will hate you. And this is... Yeah, like I said, I had this clip. This was the thing about that little ditty at the end about the corporations. I think it has to do, which follows into some clips I have about the, about the D.C. sewage problem. It's pretty smelly, I hear, in the most beautiful city in America.

Starting point is 00:30:23 It is that that is aimed at the pulling, I believe. It's aimed at the pulling of all the DEI stuff. Yeah. The corporations are noticing and the ESG, all the corporations are noticing that, you know, even Larry Fink of BlackRock who promoted the idea of ESG in particular. but it was like it's losing money for these companies because you're putting incompetent people into positions where there has to be some there has to be some knowledge base. You can't just take anybody off the street

Starting point is 00:31:01 and make them a CEO. You can't take anybody off the street and make them into some, you know, running some department that they have no clue about what it is or what it does or how it works as opposed to what the Democrats are trying to do, which is exactly that, which, of course, undermines the entire

Starting point is 00:31:19 economic system that we have, a capitalism, because they're anti-capitalists, and a lot of them will say it. Yes. They come out, and many of them would just say, yeah, well, yeah, I am a communist. It's the way to go. It just hasn't never worked out so far because it hasn't been done right, that commentary,

Starting point is 00:31:36 which never seems to end. It never will. Someone also sent me a link today. It was a short essay about Americans' confidence in government from 1958 to today. And in 19508, it was somewhere in the low 70s.

Starting point is 00:31:52 And today it's 17%. Yeah. Which is, yeah. And the point is that when it gets this low, this is when interesting things take place. You know, you get the overthrow of the emperor. You get all kinds of things happening. And I think MAGA came in the first time at the right moment.

Starting point is 00:32:12 But I don't know if, if if Trump has the winning edge on this now because I just see too many people severely negative. All trust is lost in all institutions. COVID had a big, although actually confidence went up for a little bit during COVID across the board. But now it's completely, you know, now people are dying, you know, blood clots everywhere. People have lost all confidence. And so it could be a completely different person who comes along and says, hey, I can, I can motivate all these people.

Starting point is 00:32:45 I think it's an interesting situation for the United States. Yeah, I agree. So let's move from that unless you want to finish up with some more. No, that's it. No, I mean, I just want to I think you made your point. I think the point.

Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, but the only point I want to make towards people who are mad at us is like we're doing this because that's all we do. We tell you the truth as we see it. not because we're paid, not because we're Christian Zionists, not because we're controlled or blackmailed by Mossad or CIA, and unfortunately, not because anybody's paying us to do this.

Starting point is 00:33:27 So get a grip. I found that character on that one podcast that condemned us to be pathetic. Well, yeah, of course. But anyway, so the thesis has not changed about the horror house. And I'm still going through photos. It's quite interesting. So one of the things I'm going to do, I'm going to start posting either on my Twitter account, The Real DeVorec, or I'd probably put them in the newsletter. Occasionally you run into some screwball photo.

Starting point is 00:34:01 I ran into one the other day by starting. Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Somebody tell me you're recording the stream, please. Let me know that you're recording the stream. You didn't push the red button? I have a feeling I may not have pushed the red button.

Starting point is 00:34:19 Someone's always recording the stream. So as long as you're recording the stream, I'm happy. Somebody recording the stream? We're going to pray someone's recording the stream. Otherwise, this will be a very strange podcast. Darren O has it. Darren, you'd a man. All right.

Starting point is 00:34:40 I knew he'd have it. All right, continue. We're good. Darren must have a great archive. Darren is phenomenal, man. Without Darren, we'd be bust. So, where was I? I was talking about something. I can't roll it back to find out what you were saying.

Starting point is 00:35:00 Sorry. Can't. It just can't. It did come back to me, but you interrupt your traitors thought. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You were talking about the character on the podcast. You thought he was pathetic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And about not getting paid by Mossad.

Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, we don't get paid by Mossad. I don't know why they should send us money anyway, just because we do a good job of analysis. So I wanted to switch gears and move to because I thought Susan Rice's commentary, which was about, I think was about DEI, brings us to the sewage thing. Yeah. And our national treasure NPR did a thing. on it. It's not clear what caused the Potomac sewage spill. The pipe is from the 1960s. In an open letter, the head of the utility that manages the line, D.C. Water, echoed the risk that scientists like McGuire described, old infrastructure, population growth, and climate change. The utility has said it

Starting point is 00:36:00 found signs of corrosion during an inspection about a decade ago. McGuire says the section that broke was slated for repair. So hopefully this is a little bit of a kick in the pants for everyone. Because she says the risks around the country are growing. We already have a chronic sort of slow bleed, but if we have a chronic explosion problem, that's going to be much more impactful than what we already have. President Trump has tried to blame local Democratic leaders for the accident. However, D.C. Water is under federal oversight. The Environmental Protection Agency said it's committed to fulfilling its oversight role and to helping make sure the recovery happens as quickly as possible. The ultimate authority that really needs to be aggressive in addressing this is the

Starting point is 00:36:43 Environmental Protection Agency. That's Mike Jarrell, another scientist at the Chesapeake Bay Foundation. He says the EPA also has to be the one leading programs to upgrade old sewer lines, like the one that broke in Maryland. Michael Copley, NPR News. Okay. So, okay, yeah, now somehow we got to blame the EPA for this local issue. So let's listen to the Wendy Bell show, the female right-winger.

Starting point is 00:37:09 Is this a podcast? No, no, she's a radio. person I talked about her in the last show. Oh, yeah, yeah. She does the stuff on Rumble in between. Yeah. And she is, uh, this is from her show, though. This is not it. This is your new go-toes. It's your new savage. You got a lady now. This is your savage. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She, uh, this is not an in-between thing. This is on her show. This is a shows out of Philadelphia. And she discusses the same situation. This is a, I have it. It's one, one point two, one point three. So we start with one. And it's a little different take on what's going on. Well,

Starting point is 00:37:43 if you need a reason to blow up DEI and put it away for good forever, it's this Potomac nightmare of raw waste that's still pumping into the Potomac River after a month. It's absolutely mind-bending. So the Daily Caller did this great story and I want to read it to you. And that's all we're going to talk about in this segment. It's that egregious. DC Water, that's the name of the big utility, right? They have a CEO, new guy. Well, wouldn't you know during Joe Biden's tenure? He waved a magic one and he put some black guy in charge of it, which is fine. You would hope the black guy came from some kind of a utility background. We're going to talk about that in a minute.

Starting point is 00:38:23 DC Waters CEO, that guy, oversaw $520 million in DEI contract. And coincidentally, the biggest sewage spill in U.S. history. Like, oh, my. Let's chew a little bit and see what the priorities of this utility were, shall we? While hundreds of millions of gallons of raw sewage accumulated in its pipes, the District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority was focused on diversity, equity, and other left-wing priorities, setting the stage for what may be the largest sewage spill in American history. D.C. Water CEO David Gaddis, as his name, David Gaddis.

Starting point is 00:39:07 He's championed equity and diversity throughout his tenure, who was also named in a lawsuit against his former employer for allegedly withholding information about water contamination in Flint, Michigan. Let's dig a little bit deeper into this guy. Before joining D.C. Water in 2018, Gattis served as Executive Vice President of Violia North America and CEO of Violia Water Indianapolis. It's the utility's first black CEO and the first black executive to lead a major Indianapolis utility, according to his bio. Woo-hoo! All right.

Starting point is 00:39:49 We have this guy. She could have done that in 30 seconds, but I guess it's a radio show. You have any idea how much I took out? I believe you. Yeah. Because you've heard. That's why I don't usually take from these radio hosts because they, they, in fact, even, it's even a problem with Jesse Waters on TV.

Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, no. You've got to continue. They can't stop with the asides. So here we go at part two. Before Gaddis arrived, D.C. Water was considered a global role model, commanding one of the highest reputations in the water sector. Gattis sought to take the authority to the next level by prioritizing equity for employees, customers, communities, and contractors. How about, I don't know, I'm just spitballing? How about clean water? Is that like too much to ask for? Just water. Clean water that doesn't make my hair fall out. He wanted to prioritize equity. And so what did he do? He started giving away money. How much money? Well, in fiscal year 2024, disadvantaged and women-owned enterprises received about $520 million of business diversity and inclusion.

Starting point is 00:41:11 grants. They didn't need to prove that they knew how to... Did you say business and diversity inclusion grants? But she said, okay. Do anything. They just needed to prove that they were diverse. That maybe they had some ovaries. Maybe they had some melanin. And it was like, yes, here's your money. And yes, here's $520 million. Well, the EPA had to move in in April after Trump moved in, right?

Starting point is 00:41:41 and suspend some of these awards and grants, no bid awards to people who, by the way, if we're proven to not fulfill their contract obligations, they wouldn't be held accountable. There was no liability. Like, you can't make it up. And now what do you see? You see this mountain of human waste.

Starting point is 00:42:00 Okay. So why is the president not railing on this and getting rid of this guy and changing things right away? This is what he usually does so well. There's a black guy. first of his kind. It's just just, you know, they, and they got this Epstein thing being charred,

Starting point is 00:42:17 you know, being used as the hoax of the of the month. I don't know. Here's the, here's the little kicker. This kind of proves her points because she brings this guy on. Then I have one last clip after that, where he's introduced by a woman on,

Starting point is 00:42:33 uh, on another show. He does a lot of media and here, here's this part. You know, when I arrived at D.C. Water, this was this is your last clip by the way i don't know what you're but no there's another clip you know this is a pretty important topic eight clips you know when i arrived at dc water this was an organization that looked very similar to our to our our industry it was predominantly you know white male uh at the top but this is a utility that's you know more than 70 percent people of color work yeah there you go

Starting point is 00:43:05 that's my reason for being here this utility and i really believe And I still believe, and it has been fantastic. The outcomes have been fantastic. But the people at the top, the executives, the chiefs in that C-suite, they should look like the employees that they serve and that they work with. And the same thing with the community. And so my executive team, you know, looks exactly. Hold on a second. If you're the CEO, you're not serving the employees.

Starting point is 00:43:36 You're serving the public. Well, can I just add? What is the point? of this? Of what? Of the series. Is it coming to a conclusion? Yeah, the point is that you have this situation where

Starting point is 00:43:49 DEI is what Susan Rice was talking about, that she wants to re-implement. Okay. And this is an example of where it's headed, which is sewage disasters. By getting rid of whitey at the top, because the whitey at the top doesn't read. Okay, is that enough?

Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah, thank you. That helps. That helps. Yes, you're right. The employees. Doesn't mean all black people don't know how to run a sewage plant, but when it comes to DEI and people like Susan Rice, yeah, this is what you get. That they serve and that they work with.

Starting point is 00:44:26 And the same thing with the community. And so my executive team, you know, looks exactly like the community. It looks like it looks like the employees, the staff, you know, be it people of color, women, men. And it is, it's just a fantastic team that has come together to do a lot of great things here at D.C. Water and in the community for the

Starting point is 00:44:48 customer. Right. Well, it's tough. So you have. Tough day for that guy. So, yeah, and this is, and you take people that know what they're doing and you get them out of there so you can put some of your buddies in. And the next

Starting point is 00:45:06 thing you know, the whole thing falls apart. No one knows how to fix it. It's been going on for a month. And this is an example. This is at last clip, which I'm sorry, there's so many clips, but I tried to keep him short. But this is the Gattis intro on some show where this woman introduces him. And you can see what all the priorities are. And she got named on some board that this guy put together. And he's so proud of himself for being a DEI guy.

Starting point is 00:45:32 And this is what the Democrats are going to reintroduce when they get back in is this DEI bold crap, which is not doing the public any goods, costing more money than it's worth. And connecting them to a well-established, competitively viable minority-owned firms. Today, in this special 50th anniversary episode, we celebrate and pay tribute to an innovative and businessman, innovative leader, rather, and businessman, Mr. David Gattis. But before we start the conversation with him, let me just tell you a little bit about him. This is not his first induction to the Hall of Fame, as I understand it. He is, however, the CEO and general manager of D.C. Water in this role, he oversees all authority,

Starting point is 00:46:16 including a $1 billion annual budget, a workforce of 1,100 employees, and the largest advanced wastewater treatment plant in the world. I'd like to hear about that. Under his leadership, D.C. Water has emerged as a leader within the water sector on environmental justice and water equity programs, such as a lead-free D.C. program, which is eliminating all led service lines within the district by 2030. Mr. Gattis has extended economic equity to the community through changes to the authority business development plan, which has improved access to contract opportunities with small and disadvantaged businesses and apprenticeship program that offers classroom and on-the-job training, as well as the establishment of the authority's first ever business.

Starting point is 00:47:06 Diversity Advisory Council, of which I'm a part, I'm very proud. He also serves as chairman of the board of Blue Drop, D.C. Waters, nonprofit sales and marketing affiliate, and as a frequent presenter at Utility and Government Services conferences and with the National League of Cities and the National Association of Public Private Partnerships. And before I bring him on, you should know that prior to his service at D.C. Water, he led Viola Water, Indianapolis, CEO and president of Viola Water, Indianapolis. He was the first African-American CEO and the first African-American CEO to lead a major utility in Indianapolis, Indiana. So please help me welcome Mr. David Gaddis. Good, good day, sir. Why didn't she say Comrade Gaddis? That would have been she might as well have.

Starting point is 00:47:57 Thank you so much. So you have to tell us about your induction into the Hall of Fame and Basketball. versus you have ending up. You can't kill it now. They just talk about basketball for a 10 minutes kind of a stereotypical manner. But the,

Starting point is 00:48:15 this is, and this guy's not mentioned in the NPR report, which this glossed over and blamed climate change. I mean, how much of this could we take? We have lost all

Starting point is 00:48:28 faith in our institutions and our water plants, our poop plants. you're right Epstein or not the president needs to step in here I see it as an opportunity you got to cut this stuff off

Starting point is 00:48:45 there's a lot to say that this guy did no good you know along the same lines of DEI because I think it's part of the same problem is you know the fraud in Minnesota it's just more of the same problem oh the Somalis yeah oh yeah let's set them up with they can do centers for kids

Starting point is 00:49:05 and Learing Center. Vice President Vance made his stand of what they're doing with, what's his name? Baccia, is that the guy who's running the CDC now? I think it is. Yeah, I think it's. I think you're right. Here's his little statement, which is nothing gets the news these days. Nothing is in the timeline because Epstein.

Starting point is 00:49:26 We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good stewards of the American people's tax money. Now, what is this going to mean? What this means is that, first of all, the providers on the ground in Minnesota

Starting point is 00:49:52 have actually already been paid. The state has paid those providers the money. What we're doing is we are stopping the federal payments that will go to the state government until the state government takes its obligations seriously to stop the fraud that's being perpetrated against the American taxpayer. There are a few different ways that we're doing that. There are a few different affirmative actions that we're taking today. Dr. Oz is going to talk about those. But let me talk a little

Starting point is 00:50:19 bit about the spirit of this and why we're doing it. So number one, one of the examples of fraud that we've seen in Minnesota that we verify that is just awful is that a program that existed to ensure that autistic children had access to some after-school services has made a number of people rich, not by providing services to needy children, but by allowing fraudsters to take money that ought by right go to American citizens and to American families and to set up sham businesses, set up sham clients, set up people who are not even autistic but claim to be autistic in order that they benefit from the money that's out there. Now, what does that mean? Number one, it means that a lot of people are getting rich off the generosity of American taxpayers,

Starting point is 00:51:07 but more fundamentally and more importantly than that, it means that there are kids in Minnesota who deserve these services, who need these services, and they're not going to those kids. They're going to fraudsters in Minneapolis. That is unacceptable, and that's the sort of thing that we're cutting off with this action today. And I tell you, it's not just Minneapolis. Medicare was a boondoggle. there was another report. I didn't clip it.

Starting point is 00:51:33 In Austin, company pulled in tens of millions of dollars. They think it may be up to hundreds of millions of dollars. Billing Medicare for stuff that people never got. I mean. Yeah. Yeah, that's obvious. It's unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:51:50 It's all fraud. Yeah. These all these medical systems that, you know, they used to have private doctors and they used to have their own offices and the rest. And now it's all become some system, systematically they have phone tests that you don't need when you go now they get all these things

Starting point is 00:52:04 they'll come back you know oh you gotta do this you gotta do that you're pre-cancerous you're pre-cancerous we need to run some tests on you yeah and this was this was a fun fraud in Los Angeles involving

Starting point is 00:52:20 the superintendent of the Los Angeles school district tonight L-A-USD superintendent Alberto Corvalo is the subject of an FBI investigation. Federal agents, some in tactical gear, seen entering Carvalo San Pedro home Wednesday morning to execute a search warrant. Agents also searching Carvalo's office at district headquarters in downtown L.A. The FBI is not detailing the nature of the investigation, but confirms the warrants were served. The L.A. Times, citing confidential law enforcement sources, reports the probe

Starting point is 00:52:52 is focused on Carvalo, not L.A.USD, and may involve financial crimes. According to the times, the investigation involves a former artificial intelligence company called Al Here that developed a chatbot known as Ed for L-A-USD. All Here collapsed in 2024 amid allegations of massive financial fraud involving its founder and CEO Joanna Smith Griffin, who was arrested the same year. In a previous interview, she promoted the company's use of AI in education. My name is Joanna Smith. I'm the CEO of All Here, and we helped schools to curb. chronic absenteeism using chatbots powered by AI. Pravalho promoted the AI tool in 2024, but after Smith Griffin's indictment and arrest, the district declined to use the technology.

Starting point is 00:53:41 Hey man, if I get another email from a teacher or an educator who says, oh man, once the Chromebooks came in, everything went to hell in a handbasket. The kids figured out immediately how to bypass everything, how to get to the web, to get to porn. get all the AI for all of their test scores. I mean, what a, and it's all about money. They were big payouts, schools getting all kinds of cash. Oh, just take it. I mean, Apple started, and I think they were probably,

Starting point is 00:54:14 they did that out of the goodness of their hearts. Like, hey, we need to get these kids some computers. And then they realized, like, we're not really getting anything out of this. They stopped that program at a certain point. Like, yeah, we're not going to do that. And then. Yeah, Apple, Apple was. the leader.

Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. And then they just disappeared from the scene. It was the same time when they were given, remember they were lending out apples. They would send you one. I got one. They sent me an Apple two. Apple two? Yeah, my first computer was an Apple tool, got two.

Starting point is 00:54:43 A guy named Daniel Paul worked at Apple. He's still out there. I don't think he's at Apple anymore. And then he sent me, he says, oh, no, I was at MTV. No, you got to have a computer. It's good. And we want you to try it out. And the interesting thing.

Starting point is 00:54:58 is several years later. I mean, I was into my first, was it, the 540C? Wasn't that one of the... I don't remember the model numbers. There was a bunch of LCs another one. Well, no, this is the laptop. They had the laptop and it was a color laptop.

Starting point is 00:55:14 Oh, man. And if you had five picks... Was that that big giant thing? No, it wasn't that big. It wasn't that big. But, no, that came in between with a track ball built in. I forget what that was called.

Starting point is 00:55:26 But then they had... I have one of those. The giant thing. With a trackball. It's got to be a collectible. I'm sure it is if you can find it. Well, you know, well, it's round. I think it was the 540C.

Starting point is 00:55:38 And it was a laptop. It had the OS7, I'm going to say. And I remember it so well because I had five pixels, five color pixels weren't working. And Apple refused to take anything back unless it was more than five pixels. So they sold me. defective product, and they were expensive at the time.

Starting point is 00:56:01 They were $4,000, maybe, $3,000, $4,000. No, no, that's expected. A couple pixels out, that's just, that's normal. So the tough, tough luck, Mr. VJ. But Daniel Paul at that time said, hey, you have to send us the Apple II back. And I actually had to send it back. Why? That was their policy.

Starting point is 00:56:24 We lent it to you, and now we want it back. I know. why is the right question. And I, of course, went, okay, I'll give it back to you. You could have just said, yeah, okay, sure. And then generally speaking, these guys are so poor at record keeping. Yeah. That you say, I don't want to say that.

Starting point is 00:56:44 I know this from experience, but being in that business forever. Okay. It's on its way. Got lost in the mail. Somebody checks the box and that's the end of it. And my, how things are now between God, government and technology companies, this latest spat between the, and I think it's something else, actually, between the Department of War and Anthropic is interesting to follow.

Starting point is 00:57:13 The CEO of Artificial Intelligence Company Anthropic. We need to work together between companies and the government to better manage that time of disruption and bring better prosperity smoothly to all. Dario Amode's company has been working with the American government. It was the only large language model being used in classified U.S. networks. That relationship is now at risk. Reuters reporting that U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told him O'Day in a meeting Tuesday, Anthropic must ease restrictions on how the military can use its AI.

Starting point is 00:57:46 Anthropic is refusing to let its systems be used for autonomous weapon targeting or to conduct U.S. domestic surveillance. HegS. is threatening to label the company as a supply chain risk, effectively banning it from working with the government or invoking the Defense Production Act to force Anthropic to give in. Heggseth argues U.S. law is sufficient. I fully support that strike. I would have made the same call. The U.S. government attacks several boats.

Starting point is 00:58:14 It claims we're carrying drugs, striking twice in one attack. Democrats have called the strikes illegal. A researcher says current laws governing war aren't sufficient for technology that identifies targets, even attacks them without human. oversight. And these sort of norms that were created, you know, decades, something 50 years ago, you know, did not anticipate the type of technology that we have now. Branca Marion says AI finding, selecting, and engaging targets clouds responsibility. So the conversation is too important to be private. Reuters reports a Pentagon source says Anthropic has

Starting point is 00:58:51 until 5 p.m. Friday Eastern Time to respond to HexSest requests. So Anthropic is throwing it as far as I on this, well, you know, we are a company with a soul and we don't want our work to be used. I know. We don't want our work to be used for, you know, killing people. I think they're lying. The hallucination, the minute you hook up a large language model to some tools and I have some hands-on experience, I've been building something very simple, you know, manage an online radio station with just prompts. and if the AI can't, it will lie continuously,

Starting point is 00:59:33 it'll say, oh yeah, I did that. I said, did you delete that file? Yeah, no, I deleted that. Are you sure? Yeah, look, deleted it. Show me the list. And it shows you the list of files in there. It's still there.

Starting point is 00:59:44 Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, let me go delete that. And then it comes back. See, it's gone. And I can look at the file system. It's still there. These things, there is no control over this. And I've tried it.

Starting point is 00:59:55 The best is X-A. The best is X-AI. That thing is meant to just engage you in bull crap. I mean, the way that was trained, and of course I could have known, you know, something has been trained on Twitter data. Yeah, how good is that going to be in a production environment? Claude, you know, it may, sometimes it says, oh, this is literally a prompt that came back. I can't connect to my brain right now. Okay.

Starting point is 01:00:23 You know, Gemini. do it. They all, no one has fixed the hallucination yet. And it's kind of funny when you're using a chat bot and it's okay, you know, for entertainment purposes. It's very entertaining.

Starting point is 01:00:37 But in a real world production environment, it is unreliable. And they know it. I think they all know it. Like, well, we don't want to get, that may be, so what you're implying is that the reason anthropic is so reluctant to

Starting point is 01:00:50 let them go ahead with this stupid idea is because they know it's going to be a disaster and it's going to reflect poorly on them. Yes. And they have OpenAI as an example. Canadian officials have questioned leaders from OpenAI about the company's safety protocols following one of the country's worst-ever school shootings earlier this month. After the shooting, it was revealed that OpenAI had banned the ChatGPT account of the suspected shooter, but did not tell police. Reporter Ryan Patrick Jones says the case raised is the question of just what tech companies are obliged or required to report. OpenAI says it banned Jesse Van Routselaer's account on its chatbot ChachyPT

Starting point is 01:01:36 eight months before the shooting for violations of its safety policies. The company didn't exactly say what she did, only that its automated systems flagged her account for possible misuse of its models, quote, in furtherance of violent activities. OpenAI says it considered whether to alert police at the time, but decided that the activity didn't quite meet its threshold of posing an imminent and credible risk of serious harm. They say they didn't identify any concrete or immediate planning. So the company says it kind of had to balance whether to report to police with the importance of user privacy and the risk of over-enforcing and potentially causing unintended harm.

Starting point is 01:02:21 Now, after the shooting, OpenAI did contact the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and shared information on Van Routselaer's past use of Chatchip-T, and they say they are continuing to assist investigators. In a statement after the meeting, OpenAI said it has taken steps to strengthen safeguards and has made changes to law enforcement referral protocols for cases involving violent activities. These companies are going to get blamed for everything. everything. And probably rightly so. We got a note from one of our producers, Gen Z. I've noticed a writing style of AI chatbots that I wanted to mention. Perhaps you've noticed it too, but now that I notice it, I see it everywhere, especially all over X. It goes like this. Blank is not just blank. They're a blank describing them. Further expands with some BS to drive their point home. For example, it goes like this. Adam and John are not just.

Starting point is 01:03:19 podcasters, they are media deconstructors. Adam and John speak truth to power by breaking down the mainstream media's talking points and beating them at their own game. And once I realized what he was telling us here, this format, I see it everywhere now too.

Starting point is 01:03:37 LinkedIn. He says he sees on LinkedIn, work emails. Of course, there has to be tons of bots on X. What's the model again? That's XAI, I would say. No, the model, the blank, blank Okay, so blank is not just a blank.

Starting point is 01:03:53 They're a blank describing them. Okay. It's similar to diving. So they iterate. So John is basically a trick for padding. It's a padding trick. Completely. And it's just iteration, three X iteration minimum.

Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah. I can see that. So, I'm sorry, he's a millennial. So another thing related to this, I'm a millennial, and my barbershop is largely millennial barbers and customers. More than once, I've seen a post on X the day or so before. I heard a person in the barbershop recite this ex post word for word as if it was their own thought to make themselves sound profound or well informed. I think that's been happening for a long time.

Starting point is 01:04:43 Well, you know, Erica Kirk is creepy. Where'd you hear that? I didn't, I just, I deduced that. I didn't hear it from Candice Owens. Yeah, that could be. Yeah. And then the big news that we can wrap up some AI stuff here. And gosh, this could have been so our exit strategy.

Starting point is 01:05:04 I can't believe we didn't think of it. Claude does cobalt. What a great idea. Of course it does. Of course it can program cobalt. Yeah, the IBM stock tank like 13% in one go. because of all their mainframes running everything. Yeah, we discussed this on DHS.

Starting point is 01:05:26 Oh, you did? And what did you say? Yeah, which what you're talking about now is like obvious that IBM's under threat because it's their services business. And once they, Claude does red hat, what happens next? Because their whole business is basically, you know, service now. They don't do anything else. When it comes to troubleshooting Linux, I mean, I've seen it happen. It always winds up with the chatbot telling you you have to recompile your colonel.

Starting point is 01:05:55 So I'm not too worried about it. Yet. Dude's name Ben will have business for a while. But bottom line, these things hallucinate. They haven't fixed it. They're papering over it. And it's just not that great other than eating up your tokens, munching away. Munch.

Starting point is 01:06:11 Yeah. Even Comic strip blogger has kind of backed off. You know, oh, Claude, this is it. Jobs will be gone. You better get your affairs in order. because AI is taking over everything. You'll have nothing to do. You won't have a job.

Starting point is 01:06:26 People living on the street. What, in what technological revolution has that happened? When we invented electricity, did everyone lose their job? When we had the industrial revolution, did people lose jobs or were more jobs created? With desktop computing, were more jobs created or lost? Well, my favorite along these lines is that once they, once they coined, the term paperless office. If you had invested all your money in paper companies, you'd be a multimillionaire.

Starting point is 01:06:59 You'd be a Coke brother, basically. So there's always that. But there's another story that's floating around that. It's a big news story this morning. That's all we're talking about on some of these shows, which is the L.A. lawsuit over social media. You familiar with what's going on here? Yeah, I think we played a clip a couple of shows back.

Starting point is 01:07:18 It's coming to a head. Okay. You got anything? I got one clip. I labeled it number one thinking I was going to get more. And then I kind of crapped out. This is an NPR report. Or no, this is NTD, L.A. lawsuit. We're outside the Los Angeles Superior Courthouse. Warren, Engineer and Data Science Professor took the stand today. Professor John Chandler testified saying how social media companies generate billions of dollars through ad revenue from young users under the age of 18. Professor John Chandler told jurors that research estimates showed platforms made billions of dollars from users under 18,

Starting point is 01:07:56 including roughly $5 billion from Instagram and more than $2 billion from YouTube in a single year. However, YouTube attorneys pushed back questioning how Chandler calculated watchtime and ad exposure and pointing out that he does not personally use Instagram our new all of the features offered on the app. Jers were also shown how ads play on the YouTube app and showed Bad Bunny's NFL halftime performance as an example of how ads pop up. Plaintiff attorney Mark Lanier went into detail describing how ads are customized to certain users, saying when they log into their YouTube, they are actually logging into their Google account, which can send them ads based on their search history. He also mentioned how children who lied about their age are being fed adult advertisements. For years,

Starting point is 01:08:39 big tech has hidden behind predatory design, coercive tactics to manipulate, exploit, and addict my generation of young people, stealing the meaning of digital community right out from under us. And I say no more. Many survivor parents attend the trial each day and on Wednesday about 20 held a press conference outside the courthouse. They called for what they described as common sense legislative solutions to address social media's impact on young users. Yeah, how about no slave slabs for you, child? Survivor parents is a term they use, and I'm surprised they don't use the term victims for all these social media users. This is a lawsuit. One girl has brought forward.

Starting point is 01:09:28 She says she got addicted to Instagram. She got addicted and she has mental health issues because of it. And they have, and they're making a big stink out of it. They're suing Instagram. And I don't know, there's two or three social media operations. are going to go after. I think YouTube is one of them. And it's actually a big deal

Starting point is 01:09:50 because I don't think they're going to win because the guys that counter arguments are too, you know, they just end up blaming the parents. Yeah. So do I. Yeah, it is the parents false. I blame the parents. But all I've noticed is

Starting point is 01:10:06 ever since, you know, smartphones, everything, and there's really not been a great innovation since then, of course, now AI is supposed to be the great innovation. Everything has just gotten worse. Your battery runs down quicker because of all this nonsense that's running around doing stuff for you.

Starting point is 01:10:29 You know, search engines suck. Just suck. Everything's just kind of gotten worse. Has that not been your experience in, you know, five decades in the tech industry? No, I think they've always been bad. And so I don't think it's really gotten that much worse. And it's always entertaining at some level. And it's hard to say.

Starting point is 01:10:58 I mean, the social media stuff is the addictive aspect of it with the algo and all the rest is probably concerning. And I think people should be aware of it. Something that didn't exist at this level before. The parents are addicted themselves. And yet that is the problem. That's the problem right there. Yeah. I agree. So Samsung is coming out with their Galaxy S-26.

Starting point is 01:11:22 And then I'm going to put one, not two, but three AI engines in there. Why? Why? Oh, I'm glad you asked. Because so they'll have Gemini perplexity. So Gemini for agentic tasks like booking rides and doing things across apps for you. perplexity for web-based queries, and then an upgraded version of Samsung's own Bixby,

Starting point is 01:11:50 which I noticed myself as all of a sudden, my now dead, foldable phone was like, Hi, I'm Bixby, how can I help you? Really? Is this the same as Clippy? Or that little dog that used to be in the corner? With a name like Bixby, it might as well be.

Starting point is 01:12:09 So it's going to, you know, It's going to book Uber rides for you automatically when you have to go to dinner after it already agendasically. Because there's so much work. It's so hard to go on the app, the Uber app and click, click a couple of times and get your ride figured out. They're out of ideas. That's the whole point. They're out of ideas.

Starting point is 01:12:33 Well, we got this cool stuff, you know, and your agent can talk to my agent. This is in the press release. Your agent talks to my agent. they set a date for dinner and then it'll automatically book our rides. It'll pre-order our favorite meals. I mean, every, like, this is why I said, pre-order your favorite meal. This is why I said on the last show, like, we are the robots.

Starting point is 01:12:55 It's the companies are just using the phones to control us and it's working. It's working. Pre-order a favorite meal. But then we have. You don't go to a restaurant to eat your favorite meal necessarily. You go there, maybe, I mean, there used to be a place you used to go, you always had these frog legs that always go there. But you'd still look at the man, you say,

Starting point is 01:13:12 wait a minute, this isn't different. Let me try that. I guess that's out of the question now. So lawmakers in Colorado have come up with a genius idea. This is senators Matt Ball and Amy Pashall, their state senators. They came up with SB 26051 requiring operating systems such as Apple, Google, and Microsoft. But they appear to also have thrown in. open source, you will now have to verify your age upon installing or starting up the operating system.

Starting point is 01:13:50 So they figure, oh, the way to do this is you have to verify your age to the operating system. And after that, everything else has to adhere to that age verification. How about that for an idea? Well, you mean everything defaults to that? Yeah, everything defaults to it, yeah. So that's not going to work. No. What do you think these kids are stupid?

Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to. Hey, dad, can you install the operating system for me? Oh, yeah, sure. Okay, I'm good to go. Thanks. I mean, come on.

Starting point is 01:14:34 What could possibly go wrong? This is all virtue signaling. Yeah. Was it, if you're going to talk about, this sort of thing since we're talking about computers and stuff. I do have another short presentation I'd like to get rid of. Okay. This is the video game Sick Report.

Starting point is 01:14:50 Oh, okay. What makes more money than the music industry and the film industry combined? The answer is found in the click of a mouse, the flick of a thumbstick. I'm talking about video games. Yeah, yeah. It's, what is it, almost 10 times the size of Hollywood now? Yeah, it's pretty big. But what is the flick of a thumbstick?

Starting point is 01:15:10 Did you hear that look? This is our expert reporting from NPR. Let me hear that again. What makes more money than the music industry and the film industry combined? The answer is found in the click of a mouse, the flick of a thumbstick. I'm talking about video games. Well, thumbsticks is how I control the entire show. Thumbsticks.

Starting point is 01:15:31 Do you flick the thumbssticks? Yes. Yeah, that's how I forgot to record. I was flicking the thumbstick and I thought it went. Well, they strain out and discuss joysticks for a little bit here with part two. Last year, the video game industry generated around $190 billion in revenue, according to outlets that track it. So how did this medium go from the arcade into a global juggernaut? That is the subject of a new podcast series called Hidden Levels, which is a collaboration between 99% of this.

Starting point is 01:16:03 This is a house ad. It's a house ad. It's a house ad that you're playing here. I would say about half of the stuff on NPR now is House ads for their podcast. You can receive wherever you get your podcasts. ...visible and endless thread from member station WBUR in Boston. And Ben Brock Johnson is here. He's the creator of Hidden Levels and the co-host of Endless Thread. Hi, Ben. Hi, Emily.

Starting point is 01:16:25 You can be player one. I'll be player two. Ready player two. Let's go. Your series is so fantastic. It covers so many interesting things. It's six episodes. and one of them is all about the history of the joystick

Starting point is 01:16:38 because its origins have nothing to do with gaming, turns out. Yeah, this was a really fun episode. The joystick is born in the early 1900s. It has a somewhat murky origin. It gets introduced into the aviation industry first to better control some of the first airplanes. That makes sense. Yeah, but then the joystick gets incorporated

Starting point is 01:16:58 and really perfected by the video game industry starting in the 70s as a tool. that has become the way to extend our bodies via machine. It's just used everywhere now. Yeah, when I was training to fly a helicopter and airplanes, I always had to learn how to use the joystick. And I think on my test, I even had to say, you know, you use the joystick to control the plane, morons.

Starting point is 01:17:26 So this is the level of discourse we have on NPR when it comes to tech. So here's the third clip, which I have lived, labeled WTF, meaning there's something stupid in here. Well, I mean, you can say there's something stupid in all these clips that I have today, but this is, there's something's particularly stupid here. Shane Rivera, a psychotherapist who works with LGBTQ youth in South Carolina. And Rivera described how a person they were working with found a safe space for her own identity in the video game, The Sims. Little by little, she herself started to try out different things that her avatar did, different types of makeup, different types of clothing,

Starting point is 01:18:11 until she settled into this style that was much more her, rather than a preconceived notion of masculinity or femininity. I'm so taken with that, because at the core of gaming is play, and play is how you can discover yourself. And it reminds me of this game called Life is Strange True Colors. The character in that game can fall in love with either a man or a woman. And it was a way that I explored and ultimately found my own bisexuality. Oh, man. This is a call back to Gamergate. This is where it all started.

Starting point is 01:18:46 This is where all of the woke stuff started to rear its head. And we ignored it for months until it was no, there was no ignoring it. And this is where it came from where you had this huge pressure from video game reviewers, and magazines and websites. Like all of your characters are sexy chicks and this is no good. We've got to have equity and equality. And it started with Gamergate. That was the genesis of it popping up.

Starting point is 01:19:21 And here we are. It saved an NPR host from hooking up with a dude too much. Yeah. Now she's discovered she's by her own bisexuality. Yes, her own. She discovered it by playing games. Nice. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah. Video games got her into chicks. Into lesbianism, basically. Yeah. So, okay, well, that's good to know. Here's another clip. That's good to know.

Starting point is 01:19:48 That's just swell. Swell, guys. We need to bring the word swell back. Swell. That's swell. That's just swell. That's just swell. All right.

Starting point is 01:19:58 Because I could fall in love with both, and they both were great storylines, equally. And the game really allowed me that. So you're saying that games can be places where people can grapple with real world things. They're not just escapism. Absolutely. And that's, wow, that's such a meaningful example, you know, and why representation is so important, right, in these spaces. Come on.

Starting point is 01:20:19 Representation in these spaces. Is this why this guy is on to talk about representation in these spaces? Is that why they got him on? I have no idea why they even did this. NPR has gone down to toilet. This is great. I mean, it's just a gay cabal now. Give me a break.

Starting point is 01:20:40 Gay cabal. That's what it is. The whole operation. It's kind of pathetic. And they're so proud of themselves. They are. You know, I'm listening to a host, I don't give a crap about their sexuality.

Starting point is 01:20:54 And I don't want it thrown in my face. Oh, man. Here we go wrap up with the BS. Okay. I think games are really, you know, Ultimately, they're a reflection of us, right? In our own capacity for building things or destroying things and everything in between. Not only are video games huge, they're also impacting our world in ways that we don't really realize and appreciate.

Starting point is 01:21:15 Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. No, it's in my video game. That's where it is. Well, I do like the fact that one of the big gaming consoles is now all Linux and gave up on Windows. I think that's kind of cool. If I were Microsoft, I'd be concerned about it. that. What is the big, the big platform that just came out with a huge console?

Starting point is 01:21:38 I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, one of the big gaming consoles is now all Linux. Sony? No. PlayStation? No, no. Microsoft's dropping the Xbox. Steam, Steam, Steam, Steam, Steam. Yeah. Steam has all the games. It has a lot of games. Not all the games. Steam has a lot of games. I thought that was online stuff. I didn't know that was a council. Valve. I think Valve is the name of the console. Yeah. Yeah. And they sell pre-made Linux boxes now. Yeah, good for them. All right. Let's talk about the state of the union, which the president did. He sounded a little tired from time to time. I thought it was...

Starting point is 01:22:19 He went 148. Yeah. I thought it was a good... I think a good joke was stand up if you stand for the American people over illegal immigrants. I thought that was a fun move. I have a copy of that on the clip list. Yes. But let me, before we, I'll let you do these clips. I just want to play one. The, the takeaway this morning on CNN.

Starting point is 01:22:39 Among speech watchers tonight, 64% say his policies will move the U.S. in the right direction. And look at the growth President Trump made over the speech. So pre-speech, it was 54% of speech watchers said his policies will move the U.S. in the right direction. After the speech, that number goes up 10 percentage points. So Donald Trump made. some progress with people watching the speech from their pre-speech expectations to what they saw in the speech itself. And that's 64% number. That's pretty much in range across all of his State of the Union addresses in his first term. Last year, the joint session, that's about

Starting point is 01:23:15 what we've seen as roughly two-thirds have walked away from his speech as thinking he's going to move it in the right direction. So a lot of red meat for the base. Yeah. There's no doubt about that. If you're a Republican on the ballot in 2026, I think you leave this speech being as happy to you could possibly be, that he sort of stuck to the script on the economy, he gave the red meat to the base on immigration, and they can leave the home tonight and sort of take that out on the campaign trail. That was surprised that CNN did the report and that the numbers were that high. I didn't expect that.

Starting point is 01:23:47 I mean, these things are always just a performance. It doesn't matter who's doing him. And it's either a performance from the Republicans in the audience and a Democrat president or vice versa. It's always the same thing. Yeah, it's a joke. Yeah, this is a joke. Yes.

Starting point is 01:24:02 So what do you have? I just have some of the highlights. Let me go. I'm going to start with the one that I, because I want to just, there's a little tidbit in here that it. One person I saw bring it up and I'm going to bring it up to. This is a state of the union. This is when he talks about Arena, the woman who was murdered on the train in, yes.

Starting point is 01:24:24 In North Carolina, I guess it was. and to get, you know, he's now he's doing some of the stuff where he points out somebody in the audience. He had the family there and then the Democrats would sit and the Republicans would clap. And here's an example. And President Trump is also honoring and vowing justice for Anna Zarutka. That's the mother of 23-year-old Arena Zarutka, the Ukrainian refugee who was fatally stabbed last August in Charlotte, North Carolina, light rail train. Her killing attracted a lot of attention, an intense criticism. over why the suspect was on the street despite 14 prior arrests. Take a look.

Starting point is 01:24:59 She had escaped a brutal war only to be slain by a hardened criminal, set free to kill in America, came in through open borders. Mrs. Zaretska tonight, I promise you, we will ensure justice for your magnificent daughter. Irene. How do you not stand? How do you not stand? So the thing about how do you not stand, which to me with the great irony was they put a camera on people like Elizabeth Warren. And so all these Democrats, they all didn't stand for the Ukrainian girl. And they all had little Ukraine flags on. They had these little Ukraine flags.

Starting point is 01:25:40 Elizabeth Warren is a Ukraine flag and then an American flag just underneath it, which is kind of the opposite of the way it should be. And I could be wrong about the order, but I'm pretty sure the Ukraine flag was on top. But it's about Ukraine. They didn't stand. I mean, to me, it was, it was priceless in terms of the hypocrisy. Well, I'd like your report there saying, I got a lot of attention.

Starting point is 01:26:06 If I recall correctly, it took the mainstream media two weeks to give this attention. There was no one talking about it except podcasts. Yeah. I happen to remember these things. Yeah, you do. You remember that. As a podcaster. Let's go with, here's the aliens clip.

Starting point is 01:26:26 President Trump last night making history with the longest record of the State of the Union address clocking in it just under an hour and 48 minutes. And the large focus of the president's address last night was on his administration's immigration and crime policies. This is as he demands the full and immediate restoration of all funding for the Department of Homeland Security. The president is also last night calling on Congress to pass what he says he will call the Delilah law. That would be a law banning any state from granting commercial driver's licenses. to illegal immigrants. President stressing his reasoning there that many illegal immigrants do not speak English and thus have trouble reading basic road signs. And the so-called Delilah law is named

Starting point is 01:27:05 after a little girl who was in the audience last night, Delilah Coleman, who was five when she was critically injured in a car crash caused by a trailer driven by an illegal immigrant. She miraculously survived those critical injuries and was there with her father. Take a look. Marcus, a fantastic man, Delilah, please. You are a great inspiration. Please stand up. So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. You should be ashamed of yourself, not standing up.

Starting point is 01:27:51 You should be ashamed of yourself. It's got annoying. It's like, okay, don't you know how? this works. They don't stand. You say stand. They don't stand. You're unpatriotic. You're no good. It is funny.

Starting point is 01:28:08 I mean, he's definitely milking it. The last one was the boycott clip. Meanwhile, Kevin, a historically unprecedented number of lawmakers actually boycotted President Trump's State of the Union last night, north of 70 lawmakers. And there are also a counter addresses

Starting point is 01:28:23 scheduled at the same time. There's the people's state of the nation. There are on the National Mall here and there was State of the Swamp at the National Press Club. And House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries told Democratic lawmakers who did attend to silently defy the president's remarks, although some were more vocal about their dissent, including Representative Ilan Omar, who during his part about immigration policy was calling the president a liar and a murderer during his speech. And meanwhile, Governor Abigail Spanberger of Virginia gave the official Democratic rebuttal, a criticizing President Trump's immigration policy.

Starting point is 01:28:56 Our president told us tonight that we are safer. Because these agents arrest mothers and detained children. Think about that. Our broken immigration system is something to be fixed, not an excuse for unaccountable agents to terrorize our communities. What? Yeah. Oh, brother.

Starting point is 01:29:20 No. Oh, brother. But you should have seen the alternate events. Now, I have a clip, a very short clip about that from Reuters. Several Democrats opted to skip Trump's speech and instead went to an event dubbed The People's State of the Union. Others went to a different counter event called the State of the Swamp, where actor Robert De Niro addressed the crowd, including activists,

Starting point is 01:29:46 dressed as frogs. I mean, again, it's all so, they're all, now they're trying to get the influencers to pay attention to. Look, we got, we're dressed as frogs. Oh, yeah, this will go viral. Yeah, it'll go viral, no problem. You know, and someone asked me like, whoa, how can Elon Omar be yelling that? I said, this goes back to the first time I remember someone calling out the president from the seats was President Obama in 2009. Was it the guy from, uh, uh, uh, I forget his.

Starting point is 01:30:22 Wilson, Joe Wilson called, he said, You lie, you lie! Called them out as a liar. And then Marjorie Taylor Green called out Biden, I think. This is, this is, this is, get back to work all of you. Sick of it. Now, I have one clip from the state of the union, because in case you didn't know,

Starting point is 01:30:45 we are now currently in the golden age. The prime time pitch to the nation from a president not known for his brevity. True to form, Donald Trump delivered the longest state of the union address in history. I'm sure he went home and went like, Melania, he was the law. I got the record. Longest state in the union ever? Yes, the longest one ever, baby. I'm sure he did.

Starting point is 01:31:07 As his approval ratings slide and concerns about affordability grow. The president insisted Americans have never had it so good. Our nation is back. Bigger, better, richer and stronger than ever before. His greatest hits were on full display. No tax on tips, doubling down on tariffs and a promise to stay tough on immigration. The only thing standing between Americans and a wide open border right now is President Donald J. Trump and our great Republican patriots in Congress. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:31:42 The speech was often interrupted by cheers and chants of USA. The Olympic gold medal winners in the U.S. men's hockey team, received a standing ovation. But at times, tensions spilled into the chamber. You should be ashamed of you, sir. That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals and enacting. Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar shouted in protest

Starting point is 01:32:16 during the president's remarks on immigration and the Somali community in her home city of Minneapolis. Fellow Democratic lawmaker Al Green was a school. from the chamber. He had waved a sign, protesting a video the president had posted, depicting the Obama's as apes. Boy, oh boy. We're lucky we have a country. With people like this, Democrats are destroying our country, but we've stopped. And dozens of other Democrats had refused to show up in the first place.

Starting point is 01:32:47 Okay, it's also tiring. Like, how many state of the unions have we covered in the course of this show? 25, maybe? Well, it comes out once a year, so probably not 25. Well, it can't be, it can't be 50. I don't think I can remember that. Yeah, but I guess we have. Once a year, we've done about 18 of them.

Starting point is 01:33:13 Yeah. Oh. We have the most state of the union coverage being now a podcast ever. It's true. The voice, you're not getting it. I'm not, but you know what I'm saying. But if you're going to want to try it, keep working on it. I'll encourage it.

Starting point is 01:33:29 There's so many people out there. I'd rather do Alex Jones. Hey, man, listen, Iran is going to blow up. You know, it's going to happen. The Muslims are taking over Texas. I read their documents. I've seen it. It's in their documents.

Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah, you're Alex Jones. I'd say you're 90%. And I kept, in fact, you're so far along. I have no suggestions. I mean, normally I'd say, well, if you could. You twist it. No prompt. They have no prompts for me. Oh, this is good. Maybe the cadence could change. I can't say any of that because you got it to such an extreme that I can't help.

Starting point is 01:34:06 I'm getting there. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. So it's up to you. Get in front of a mirror. That's still the big thing here in Texas. Sharia law is coming. Oh, they're going to take. And people say this to me. Aren't you afraid of Sharia law? No. We're becoming Sweden. We're becoming the U.S.

Starting point is 01:34:25 I said, no. Check the numbers. Our borders are closed and it took 25 years for this mess to happen in the EU. And I saw it happen. I saw it before my very eyes. And you need open borders for this to happen and a complete always communist government and a complete subdued population. But it's the Republican talking point.

Starting point is 01:34:58 Just like Mandami, it's going to be there everywhere. So that'd be pretty funny. Anyway, Iran, ABC report from this morning. The U.S. is increasing its military presence in the Middle East, adding to its show a force against Iran. In a rare move, a U.S. official telling ABCUs tonight about a dozen Air Force F-22 fighters have now landed in Israel tonight. The fighters spotted taking off from a base in the U.K. President Trump threatening U.S. military action against Iran unless the Iranian regime agrees to a nuclear deal. Yeah, all right, all right. We're ratcheting it up. Let's go to CBS.

Starting point is 01:35:35 The world's largest aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R. Ford sailed into an American naval base on the Greek island of Crete today, with multiple squadrons of F-18 fighter jets seen on deck. The Pentagon has moved at least 120 aircraft to the region in the past. two weeks alone. Pressure is mounting inside Iran, too. Thousands of students protested against the regime, the first demonstration since the brutal crackdown in January that left thousands dead. President Trump is weighing his options. I think they want to make a deal. I don't think they want the consequences of not making a deal. Potential targets could include Iran's ballistic missile sites, its nuclear facilities, and the headquarters of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Iran's foreign ministers said the country was ready to fight.

Starting point is 01:36:35 We have a very good capability of missiles, and now we are even in a better situation than previous war. Iran has not only threatened retaliation against U.S. bases in the region, but Israel. I love the NatPops and CBS's report that got explosion after explosion. Directly. If Iran retaliates, it might not just be Iran. We've been fighting the last two and a half war on seven different fronts. We've seen multiple enemies.

Starting point is 01:37:06 U.S. officials say if President Trump does decide to hit Iran, one option is a joint military operation between the United States and Israel. Both countries have discussed hitting Iran's ballistic missile sites. Yeah, because, as you know, Netanyahu told Trump what to do, and Trump went, OK, baby, all right, I don't want to do that. Here's Canada's global news, and then a surprising report from France 24.

Starting point is 01:37:37 With his country still inching towards conflict, U.S. President Donald Trump used some of his prime time speech to issue a direct warning to Iran to give up its nuclear desires. We wiped it out and they want to start all over again. Iranian officials pushed back on Trump's rhetoric, calling it, quote, big lies. We're in no way seeking nuclear weapons, Iran's president said in recent days, despite sites destroyed in 2025 appearing to be rebuilt,

Starting point is 01:38:04 which adds pressure to another round of upcoming diplomatic talks. The president was measured when it came to the conflict in Iran. He definitely didn't saber-rattle. He didn't make threats. He didn't need to. The massive U.S. military buildup around Iran speaks to America's distrust. If you choose diplomacy and respect Iran's dignity and interests, Iran's parliamentary speaker said, we will stay at the table.

Starting point is 01:38:28 The U.S. has hinted at potential all of branches, including small-scale uranium enrichment, provided there's zero path to a nuclear weapon, and failure to do so could result in consequences. This is him making a decision to use military force to achieve his own policy objective. There are reports senior Pentagon officials have expressed concerns about a large response, saying munitions stockpiles are low due to America. American defense of Israel and support for Ukraine, potentially giving the president room to delay his decision. That probably gave the American people a little bit of a sigh of relief, but it doesn't absolve the fact that this is still a very hot situation. And the president has to convince people that

Starting point is 01:39:08 this is in the nation's best interest. Still, time is running out with a 10 or 15-day deadline imposed by Donald Trump quickly coming to an end. Okay. So what we discussed on the last, last show, I think, is still very much in play. This is to stop any, any oil going to China or to Russia. Hey, let us in, let our American companies set up shop. We'll do the refining. We'll do the shipping. We'll do drop shipping for you. We'll do gift cards, whatever you want. We'll take care of that. We'll even give you some of those cool little reactors that we're shipping around with the Air Force is flying all over the place. Just do a deal. I still don't. don't understand why the president, to me, is lying about this.

Starting point is 01:39:56 You know, oh, yeah, they want to rebuild it. It just doesn't ring true at all. And France 24 came very close, I think, in this report. The big, big issue as well is for the U.S. to debunk and destabilize the access that goes from Iran to China and also Russia. And only then people like Jared Kushner will appreciate the fact that possibly they can implement the peace board, the extension of Abraham Accords, and reshape this region, for which they also have a vision, an ambition, and their own ideology.

Starting point is 01:40:33 And we'll see in the coming days how their own strategy applies on the ground. Sarah Kreps, speaking of China, we've had in the last days talk about intelligence sharing on the part of Beijing for Tehran. Your thoughts on, again, is this more than just the United States, very? versus Iran. And what is the role of China and all this? Yeah, this seems like classic realpolitik on the ground, which is sort of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Right now, it seems as though there are these kind of two worlds, U.S. allies, China, its allies, and then these kind of the Indians of the world that are trying to navigate the middle. And so it's not surprising that China is trying to align a little bit with Iran

Starting point is 01:41:16 in order to push back in a balance of power kind of way against the United States, because that's kind of what these spirits of influence are right now. So it's not surprising at all. First time I've heard any news report talk about China in regards to this Iranian gambit. I'm glad somebody picked it up. Barely, though. Barely. It's like, come on. It's so obvious.

Starting point is 01:41:41 After Venezuela, this is now, this is what has to happen. And, you know, you're not going to get your oil out of the Straits of Hormuz through the Armaged. So do a deal. And then come on into the world. And everybody can play nice. Can it be anything else? It's clearly not some nuclear facility. No one is saying,

Starting point is 01:42:05 I'll have the bomb in one week. Nook's coming. That's off the table. Well, Whitkoff did say that recently. Oh, he did. Out of the blue, I think this was like about three or four days ago, Whitkoff has said exactly that. Oh, what a douche.

Starting point is 01:42:19 He's off script. I think he had his binder and he flipped to the wrong tab. He's off script. And it was like from five years ago. He's getting what you say. He's getting his information from chat GPT on the flight. Well, Bixby said, Bixby said, they're going to have a nuke in one week. In one week.

Starting point is 01:42:38 So one of the most controversial things that I have heard, ever seen happen on this show, as we made a call out and said, listen, we have now seen so many times a social, media post where American troops are being served steak and lobster. And it immediately goes around as, that's it. Steak and lobster. They're going to be deployed. Strikes are coming. And I said, please, to our military producers, of which there are many, could you please

Starting point is 01:43:12 let me know what your experiences? Well, this is super interesting because it may have to do with, what service you're in, but I will share a few of the, I'm sorry? Yes, we have two notes in particular, and they contradict each other. Well, I have about eight notes that contradicts each other. First one, I spent 31 years in the Navy, when on deployment and they give us steak and lobster. It's usually because we're getting extended and not going home. It's true.

Starting point is 01:43:45 Next one. My husband who served in the Army and retired after 20 years of service in 2021 had seven tour to Iraq and Afghanistan said, a very long time ago when chow halls and kitchens were only a couple of bases, they would ship hot meals in these military yetis, and they would serve that before after an operation in the early 2000s. But now it's every Friday everywhere, basically, all the time on Friday. So the videos that are going around social media are just Friday.

Starting point is 01:44:12 Next one. Yeah. I love these. Your sense that this was BS, and brother, you are right. I served as a cook. In the U.S. Army. Now, we have Navy and Army, different things. For 10 years from 88 to 98, I've served in both procurement and production capacities in large-scale dining facilities. These operate on a modest budget. Generally, they plan for a three-week menu to cycle to balance consistency with variety.

Starting point is 01:44:41 While special meals were planned in and they could deviate under special circumstances, it was rarely done to financial constraints. In September, every year, It was clear which facilities had budgeted well. Those who would shift to steak and shrimp, we never produced lobster weekly. Those which managed finances poorly would swap ham and omelets to bologna and orange juice to Kool-Aid to cut costs ahead of the first fiscal year. So, okay, then we have retired from the Army 2018, Master Sergeant, 20 years of active duty service. The steak and lobster theory is bullshit. I can only speak from the Army perspective.

Starting point is 01:45:22 The Air Force probably has steak and lobster on the days. They don't have prime rib and caviar. With that being said, most soldiers don't even eat in the dining facilities outside of breakfast. Even the numbers are smaller than most people assume. I believe there's the theory that all soldiers live in barracks with a chow hall across the street. Most soldiers live at home with their family either on post-housing or in a house or apartment off base. They eat their dinners at home, take their lunch or go out. out and eat at one of the many fast food restaurants in base.

Starting point is 01:45:52 If they are in a defense ready for status, they're still living off post, can't drink, and you usually have an hour recall and can be anywhere in the world in about 18 hours. Soldiers living in the barracks are generally on a meal card that allows them to eat at the dining facility for free. Everyone else gets charged. Soldiers not on meal card are on basic allowance for the substance. They are paid $476 a month to get their own food wherever they wish. and then we have Commodore Matt, the metal bender.

Starting point is 01:46:21 I just heard your immediate call to arms. I can confirm. I served in the U.S. Navy, and it was widely known if you get surf and turf while you're out at sea, bad news is coming. Some ships would also bring out ice cream machines that they didn't usually have for the same purpose. The idea was to boost morale before dealing a big blow. So it seems the Navy may be doing this. Then we have the final one, Sir M. Mad Son of M. Valley, I deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan a few times.

Starting point is 01:46:50 I've enjoyed many meals at dining facilities in Kuwait, Qatar, and Romania. I can tell you from my experience that service members eating steak, lobster, and crab means it's Friday. Friday night is usually surf and turf night, just like Wednesday is wings night, and Tuesday is taco night in many chow halls and dining facilities military-wide. So the only thing I can see here is that maybe the Navy does this, but everybody else seems to think it's just Friday. I think we've solved this. I think we've solved this.

Starting point is 01:47:22 I don't want to much to solve, but... It's Friday. At least we got the bull crap out of the way. It's Friday. Thank you, thank you for the social media and its great insights. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in China's role in Iran, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John Cinawa!

Starting point is 01:47:48 in the morning. 1532. It should be 1800 today. Those are the trolls. Herald in the morning to the troll room. Let me count you for a second. Okay. 1532. It should be 1800 today.

Starting point is 01:48:03 Those are the trolls. Hanging out in the troll room. That means they are listening live, either at trollroom.io or no agenda stream.com. Or perhaps they're using one of those fabulous modern podcast apps. Can't wait for the new podverse. come out. It's going to blow the socks off of everybody. Oh, I had podcasting news, by the way. Podcasting news. Yes, I had podcasting news. So, you know, everyone's like, oh, you got to do a video podcast.

Starting point is 01:48:34 Video podcast, it's got, if it's not a video podcast, it's got to be a video podcast. So Spotify was the first to jump on the video podcast. Yeah, you can upload your video to us for your video podcast. what's happening is the, and boy, we could have seen this coming from a mile away. Now that you can create video podcasts and Spotify will put you up there in the top-ranking podcast. Because of course, it's all about the chart, man. You've got to be in the chart. If you're not in the chart, no one's going to listen to your podcast.

Starting point is 01:49:07 Certainly not watch your podcast. So guess what shows up in between Megan Kelly and Joe Rogan and others. porn and there's all these porn podcasts and now Spotify's going what's the porn podcast do it's they're just uploading porn as a podcast and calling it a podcast yes yes hey hey today's redhead day what do you think adam we got some redheads lined up oh yeah there's some bunch of them they all you know get the skinny ones the me the big ones the top heavy ones we're going to start with Hey, Adam, what do you think? All I can do is go back to this.

Starting point is 01:49:53 Here she is. Raven, give it up. So now Spotify, it's like so obvious this was going to happen. Now Spotify has to employ 30 people to go and check every video podcast to make sure it's not porn. Like, didn't you know that was going to happen? It's so obvious. All right. Porn.

Starting point is 01:50:18 And it's top in the chart. Another obvious thing. Top of the charts. Top of the charts. We're number one. Taking over Joe Rogan any moment now. Hilarious. Anyway, go to modern, new podcast apps.com.

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Starting point is 01:51:50 is also accepted in the form of, for example, artwork that people would do for us. You can upload those to No Agenda, ArtGenerator.com. And a lot of people had the same idea for the artwork for episode 1845. We titled that Slave Slab, which we totally stole from some of the art because we're trying to come up with the right name for... You got it from Dan? Dan, that's right. O, B, G, Y, N. Yes.

Starting point is 01:52:15 He's the one who... Thank you for remembering. Thank you for remembering. He coined it. And because we had controller, we had controller slab. And we knew we were on the right track, but we didn't have it just yet. And then when we looked at the art, went, oh, slave slab. That's it.

Starting point is 01:52:32 Because these things are clearly not phones. They are a slab that you are enslaved to. And you're carrying it around literally. In your hand while walking down the street. Sometimes two, one in each hand. It's amazing. That's only women, though. For some reason, a lot of women have two phones.

Starting point is 01:52:52 I think it's the family phone and the work phone. Just in case. Just in case. And we argued over, we discussed many different pieces. We chose Rocket Boys throwback to 2001. Is it 2001 Odyssey? Is that it? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:53:10 And I was surprised by when we were doing the post-mortem on the show afterwards, that you had never seen this movie. I can't recall seeing it. Of course, I know, opened the Pod Bay doors, Hal. But I don't think I've actually seen it. So I have put it on the list. I have put it on the list. Well, you know, I'm thinking about it because that movie came out in the 80s or the 70s.

Starting point is 01:53:35 Maybe I was in Holland and they didn't have it. It's possible. But I'm wondering, because I haven't seen it for a while, whether it's even watchable anymore. That's probably why I have never gone. and it's like, oh, I should watch this thing. You know what was interesting? We wanted to watch Spin City. We thought, you know, hey, it would be fun to watch Spin City with Michael J. Fox as an old show to just kind of reminisce.

Starting point is 01:53:59 That is not available. And if you search for it, it says not available because license expiration. So there's a show that should be on Pluto or at least. Someone should pick that up. That was a good show. anyway. Yeah, it may be unwatchable, kind of like the Colossus movie. What was that thing called?

Starting point is 01:54:22 The Forbent, the Forbent Project. I think that's still kind of watchable. So it was Dan OBGYN4, and he's had the image, which I did not remember because I probably haven't seen the movie, that you said, it's the monolith. It's the monolith. Don't you see it's the monolith? I'm like, what are you talking about? It's a big phone in the middle of a valley.

Starting point is 01:54:44 I thought his, and Dan, I thought this was the, this is the art I picked. Yes, you did. But I had to, but Adam was so adamant about not getting it.

Starting point is 01:54:56 I had to, I have to assume that if he didn't get, I mean, there's a lot of people that probably didn't get it, if he didn't get it. And so, uh, we went to another version of the same art,

Starting point is 01:55:07 only more, uh, I would say surreal. Yeah. Uh, and we picked the other version. Which looks a lot like, a phone in front of an orange butt plug.

Starting point is 01:55:18 Which is the first thing you saw that was, which I thought was the dimensional thinking. So it's like, holy macro, I didn't get that. I still can't see it, but okay. Well, when's the last time you saw a butt plug? I don't go around looking for him. I think the last time I saw is when Adam Schiff gave a speech. Ah, there it is, everybody.

Starting point is 01:55:40 So thank you very much, Rocket Boy, for bringing that beautiful piece of art. can submit for the show, get your favorite, your favorite AI thing to do it. Sometimes people actually are real artists and like to come in and do something. We appreciate that. If you do no agenda, art generator.com. And I should mention that I used another piece, a third piece for the newsletter, which I just thought was cute, which was a moon by AI slop, which just has a little alien guy in the moon, holding up a sign saying the best podcast in the universe. And I, I thought, I don't know why I just thought it was very cute.

Starting point is 01:56:18 I saw you use that. Yeah, it was nice. Piece of art that it was just funny looking. We always thank people who support us financially, $50 and above, not under $50 for brevity and also for reasons of anonymity. There's a lot of people who just want to give and they'll put in multiple $49.99. So whatever it is, we appreciate that, particularly the recurring donations. $200 or above, not only will we read,

Starting point is 01:56:44 your note within reason, some long ones today, but you also get a Hollywood credit of Associate Executive Producer, just like Dana Brunetti, who I will be calling. So not that I'm going to be calling all of our Associate Executive producers, but he's a big-time Hollywood Associate Executive Producer. And you can put that credit into IMDB.com if you don't, just to prove that you're an official producer. And $300 or above, you get an executive producer credit and we'll read your note as well. and that is exactly what Bob Newell did from Penfield, Pennsylvania. He sent in a note with his $350.

Starting point is 01:57:20 He says, Greetings and gratitude from the far-flung realm on the borders of Clearfield and Elk counties in Pennsylvania. Your twice-weekly alchemy of deconstruction, courage, and borderline questionable clip curation continues to keep this humble pastor sane. Ah, we have a man of the cloth here. Truly, your work is a shield against the dragons of misinformation, and I thank you for riding into battle every episode.

Starting point is 01:57:43 As for me, I come not only as a pastor in the stronghold of Du Bois, Pennsylvania and nearby areas, but as a certified dude named Ben. The pastor can fix your pooter. Forged in the ancient fires of computing, I cut my teeth on an IBM 360 back when punch cards were plentiful and a missing period could bring an entire kingdom to its knees. Good times.

Starting point is 01:58:09 Those early days taught me patience, precision, and the sacred art of not dropping the box of cards. With this donation, I joyfully complete my night layaway quest. The accounting scrolls are enclosed for your inspection, and so with due humility and a grin, I request to be dubbed Sir Robert of Penfield and requests Nokey and Cornbread at the roundtable. If the round table permits, I'd also be grateful for a mention

Starting point is 01:58:33 on my little offering to the wider world. Lights, camera, devotion, now available on Amazon.com. It's a resource meant to help folks connect faith, story, and daily life. No jingles needed, just my thanks, my tithe, and my continued loyalty to the best podcast in the universe. Actually, someone sent me a jingle that would be perfect to play for our pastor friend here. It just came in this morning. You've got prayers. In case you don't want karma.

Starting point is 01:59:10 We can give you prayers. Actually, there's a bunch of people out there that don't want karma for exactly that reason. I know. That's why we have a jingle. Isn't that cool? Yeah, it is upon request. Yes. Chris Cohen, Kohenauer in Oklahoma City.

Starting point is 01:59:34 Easy for you to say. 33369. This is a douchebag don't you? donation of the highest order. I've been listening since early 2020 and have never donated. Oh, okay. Well, you know what that means. You've been deduced.

Starting point is 01:59:56 I just want to celebrate the greatest natural resource this country has to offer. American boobs. That was going to be the show. American boobs. Well, thank you, Chris. American boobs.

Starting point is 02:00:11 Thank you, Chris. Blah, blah, blah. Sir Rich is in Odinton, Maryland, with our favorite 33.3.3. Sir Rich here, he says, newsletter issue is C-name, redirecting underscore D-Mark, devorak.org to devorak.org, which has a TXT record for the sender policy framework, SPF.

Starting point is 02:00:29 This means that any system that uses DMAR will see the SPF record and then reject as broken DMARC. I think that is exactly what Void Zero was talking about. Yeah, no, void zero. Everyone says this, but then when I use the Google email, I get the same numbers. Same. What do you mean the same numbers? This is MailChimp.

Starting point is 02:00:48 This is the DMR thing I agree with. Well, Void Zero wants to help, but you have to unblock it. No, I'm going to try to have a conversation with Void Zero. You still haven't had that? I sent him a note, but the note that he's, the note, I sent him a note and his note got rejected by his side. I got a kicked back. Hey, I have his phone number.

Starting point is 02:01:12 Just the thought, you know, get your slaves. No, we do this. We set up a, we set up shop. It's hurting the show, man. Well, we didn't hear it these guys. Heavy, he, heavier. How do you pronounce it? Javier.

Starting point is 02:01:31 Javier. It's not Javier. Javier, yes, Javier. Vasquez. Mr. Vasquez in San Diego, 333, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3. the second half of the show, a special, was outstanding. But thank you for your help to help to see us through things with the right perspective. Jingles Dr. Kiki Climate Gate and Obama, no, no, no, ITM.

Starting point is 02:01:55 Wow, we haven't had a request for Dr. Kiki in ages. I think it's a science. Yeah, and I know what it is, but it's just, I find that interesting. Here we go. But anyway, that was just my little. Oh, I'm sorry. That's the wrong doctor. There you go.

Starting point is 02:02:11 It's so old. I thought it was Kiki Science. Where's Dr. Kiki? Science, science. We have a new science? People are learning through science. No, that's not it. It's not it.

Starting point is 02:02:28 I never heard that one. That's a, I have. No, why does she say it? It was worth it. We have that one. What happened? I see Dr. Kiki science, but it's not the one we're thinking of. Hmm

Starting point is 02:02:40 Dr. Kiki Well that's I have what is it done for you lately Well this is this is ridiculous It's gone Linux sucked it up man This is not the right one This is a scheme

Starting point is 02:02:59 This is a horrible scheme It was worth it We have that one I have what has science done for you lately What has science done for you lately I don't have to leave it with that. I can't find anything else. To the gate, to the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates.

Starting point is 02:03:21 No, yeah, we didn't need Obama no, no, no, Obama, no, no, no, no. This is a rowdy crowd. Come on, guys, you're in my house. Hold on saying, I, ah. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, hey, hey, hey, okay, you know what?

Starting point is 02:03:47 Shame on you. You soon be doing this. I do miss him. Good times. Dennis Cadell, or Cato, not sure. He's in Tampa, Florida. We know that for sure. He comes up with $333 to support the show and says,

Starting point is 02:04:01 ITM gentlemen, I've been a listener since Adam's first Rogan appearance. Rogan donation. And this is my first donation, so please deduce you. You've been deed. douched. Ah, but he's not just coming in for any old reason. Oh, no. He needs baby-making karma. And this is for his son, Justin, and his beautiful wife, Amber. Thank you for your courage. And keep up the important work that you provide for this. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Canis K-Dol. There we go. Tampa, Florida. You've got karma.

Starting point is 02:04:40 Dynamite. And there we go to John. John. John. John Whitten in Codiac, Alaska, $250. No note, that means he gets a double up karma. You sure do, John. You've got. Karma. We go to Carney, New Jersey, Kearney, New Jersey. Michael Verde lives there, and he's our second associate executive producer of $220.

Starting point is 02:05:07 No longer a douchebag. First donation. Need business karma after COVID crash. Well, I think you need a deduishing right now. right off to that. You've been deduced. Business karma incoming. I sell and repair multi-function printers like RICO, HP, and plotters for engineers.

Starting point is 02:05:27 Serving New Jersey in Lower New York State, Magic Tech Office Equipment is hosting the first meetup at the Barn and Rockaway, New Jersey, Wednesday, March 18th at 5.30. Happy hour deconstruction of the leprechaun. Thank you for your funny, informative show, says Michael Verdi, and we got the karma for you. you're right here. Thank you, Michael. You've got karma. Moving right along with Sean Holman. No relation, I don't think, in Noblesville, Indiana to 1911 again.

Starting point is 02:05:58 No note, so he'll get a double up karma. That's the 1911. That must be the platypus. You've got Double up. Karma. And we have Leo Atkinson, and Leo sent us a note with his $218.26.

Starting point is 02:06:16 You're John Adam in the morning. And by the way, he says, all emboldened, what's wrong with sneaking in the verbal equivalent of waving something shiny to distract your partner towards a better topic? Incidentally, I see what he's doing here, is giving us some new words to use. Incidentally, most people do prefer to hear themselves speak

Starting point is 02:06:38 quite unlike the typical Noah Jenna listener. We have the foresight to listen to our beloved, crock pot and puzzle analyze the news of the day or even the news of yesteryear that reminds me he's using all these little terms we can use now thank you this what would be without you you two are like a couple of swell gifts brought to a housewarming party in 1976 wow wow we're a we're two swell gifts anyway i was considering a request for the following jingles mystical shape-shifting Somalians. Trumpy loves Trotsky.

Starting point is 02:07:15 I love my train. I love your beef stew. The classic, Oh, Biden, I can carry eggs. And they always give me a back rub on the airplane. But now that I mention it, I think those are all hallucinations. The genuine article, better than any produced by AI. So I'll have you know, Leon. I always prep the show and get the jingles for the spreadsheet before the show starts.

Starting point is 02:07:39 I misread mystical shape-shifting Somalians and had shape-shifting Jews. And then I was searching for Trump loves Trotsky, thought you meant Donald loves Nazis. And, oh, did I just lose John? Oh, what happened? Your side went dead and I just re-based that. Hold on. Hold on. I got to set you back up to four. Hold on. That was weird.

Starting point is 02:08:05 I wonder if I had a, I don't think I had a glitch on the stream. Well, who knows. Whatever. It was short. Yes. Anyway, so the point being that I was looking for these jingles until I realized that underneath it said is hallucinations. I sometimes I thought that we had these. So thanks for nothing.

Starting point is 02:08:25 And he ends with before I forget, the enclosed donation falls short of the value you provide. I just like the digits that mark my birthday. I can only hope that in four more years, we can still expect four more years. by Leon. And yes, you're on the list. Thank you, Leon. We appreciate it. Matthew Martel, our buddy in Brumall, Pennsylvania, $210.60. He's still not receiving the newsletter. It's zapped before it hits the server. Best of luck, void zero. Visit martelhardware.com and use code Bongino is back for 10% off your order. We're all going to die slash JCD Hot Pockets is request. Okay, hot pockets. Yes. Hot pockets. I love the overmodulation of the hot pockets.

Starting point is 02:09:20 Hey, there's Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois. He's back. Reminding you that their big Chicago land meetup is coming in March. Check no agenda meetups.com for more information. And he says he thought about writing a donation note as long as Trump's state of the union speech. but I figure I'd do everyone a favor and keep it short and sweet. Just keep up the great work. And visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. And whatever you do, stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy. Yeah, he's followed by Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado, $200.

Starting point is 02:09:57 Jobs Karma for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersink.com. Linda applies executive level positioning to career transitions at every stage. That's Imagemakers Inc.com with a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Best, Linda. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Starting point is 02:10:24 Lisa, karma. And we have actually two more associate executive producers, Lisa Perez, in St. Gabriel, Louisiana, has $200 to return to the show in value, and she has a note. Hi, Adam and John, I really enjoy listening to, oh, thanks for the show, I really enjoy listening to it, and appreciate your viewpoints. Oh, thank you. I made my first donation now, in particular, after listening to Episode 1845 and the discussion, how we are slaves to the phone. I wholeheartedly despise how reliant I am on a piece of electronics and how much it could controls my life. I think there are way more negatives than positives to it. We are all becoming less

Starting point is 02:11:07 human courtesy of the smartphone. My elderly sister and her husband are in their 70s and I have one flip phone between them and they function just fine in life. I have informed my children that after I retire, they will have to call me to find me because I 100% plan to put it in a drawer. What an influence you are, Mr. DeVorek. Love listening to you both. Lisa. Perez, Maryland, Lisa Perez, MD, I'm sorry, St. Gabriel, Louisiana, and I believe she deserves a deduced.

Starting point is 02:11:40 You've been deduced. Which brings us to Higg Hawker in Higginsville, Missouri. $200. He wrote a note. Hig Hock and Hocker from Hocker. Hocker.

Starting point is 02:11:57 Ah, Hocker. From Higginsville, Missouri. Love the show. Keep on keeping on. Yeah. We need truth more than ever in these wretched times. Go podcasting. Higg Hawker pronounced Hig, not high. Hawker.

Starting point is 02:12:13 I don't know I'd pronounce it high. Can I get a goat scream? Please, you guys rock. Well, I'll do one better. I'm going to give you a full-on goat karma. You've got karma. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1846. We appreciate this.

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Starting point is 02:13:20 just a fun little ditty, although it's very, very short, and you probably heard about it. It's a minor controversy at the British fake Oscars, also known as the BAFTAs, as one of the people who was in a Tourette's movie,

Starting point is 02:13:39 could not help himself when two black actors were on stage. Here we go. Delaware and I are delighted to be presenting the first BAFTA of the night for a vital part of movie making. My colleague. I love how, was it, was it Jamie Fox? He said, no, man, he meant that. It's such a controversy.

Starting point is 02:14:05 You get a Tourette's guy in an award show. Hello. Yeah, what do you expect to happen? Yeah. I never had that kind of Tourette's. No, that's extreme. And that happens a lot. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:14:15 And once in a while you run into it. feel sorry for people that get that don't under that have it happen to them they're the Tourette's sufferer yeah and they and it happened I was headed there on a flight once and there some poor guy came in and he obviously had Tourette's and he was freaking out and dragging his luggage backwards off the wheel and then cussing like a maniac no it's the worst trying to put his bags up while cussing and cussing and cussing and they took him off the plane and I felt really bad about it because I knew it was like just some it was moment Because when you're on the plane, then you can't help but saying,

Starting point is 02:14:50 bomb, bomb, bomb. You know, that's, that's, but that's what Tourette's is. It's like a severe OCD where you think, I'm not going to blink my eyes. I'm not going to blink my eyes. Oh, crap, I'm blinked my eyes like crazy. I can't stop. I can't, that's what it is. And if you have the really bad kind, it's like, oh, I can't say bomb on this airplane.

Starting point is 02:15:09 Bob! That's what it is. It's, uh, it's, uh, it's tough. You know, Steve Jobs had a little bit of Tourette's. Did you know that? No, but I'm trying to imagine him. Well, if you look at that video where he announces podcasting, and then, you know, I'm cussing about my Mac hard drive sucking.

Starting point is 02:15:35 Yeah, yeah. If you look at him, he laughs, and then he ticks his head like three or four times. Oh, the old head, the old head tick, yep. Like Stephen Miller has. Like I have. Yeah. Yeah, well... Yeah, you have...

Starting point is 02:15:52 I do. Yeah, you don't have the blinky blink. Oh, I do. Oh, the blinky blink. You blink a lot? The blinky blink. Whenever I go on Rogan, the blinking blink is hard to control. That sucks.

Starting point is 02:16:02 But it's cool. You look at the YouTube comments. People are like, is that guy like resetting every five seconds? And then you'll get a comment under it. Someone's like, hey, man, I'm a terrorist. Leave my loan, okay? I'm a victim, you see.

Starting point is 02:16:16 I'm a victim. And then people, the step, stick up for me. It's good. I like it. Let's go with Cash Patel's hockey fiasco, NPR. Yeah, this is pretty funny. The stupidest thing of the week. So, Ryan, I want to start with Cash Patel's trip to Milan.

Starting point is 02:16:31 I think a lot of people have seen that video of him partying with the U.S. men's hockey team. Is that why this is getting so much attention? Short answer, yeah. That is certainly a lot of it. Look, FBI directors are traditionally very serious, buttoned up professionals. Robert Mueller is one example. You know, they wear suits in a tie.

Starting point is 02:16:48 They carry the FBI, and it's huge responsibilities on their shoulders. We're talking terrorism investigations, fighting drug cartels, catching foreign spies, trying to steal America's secrets. And then juxtapose that with the video of Patel and Milan celebrating with the U.S. men's hockey team in the locker room after the gold medal went over Canada. And in that video, Patel is chugging a bottle of beer. He sprays them in the air. He pumps his fist, bangs on a table. He jumps around and sings with the team. And so this episode is certainly added to concerns.

Starting point is 02:17:17 including among current and former FBI officials about Patel's temperament and his fitness for this big important job. What does Patel had to say about the criticism over this video? He's tried to brush it off. He said in a Post-OnX that he loves America and was humbled to celebrate with Team USA. Now, am I mistaken that Cash Patel plays hockey, played hockey, was a coach? He plays a, not pro, but not semi-pro, but he plays a, he's on a league, he's a hockey player, he's nuts about it. And the coach of the national team is his buddy. Oh. And his buddy invited him to be, hey, come on.

Starting point is 02:17:53 You want to come in the back? Oh, sure. I'll come back there. And so they made a big fuss about it because, you know, he was, you know, he was acting like a dude. No, no. The flus is about the airplane. Well, that became the, that, I think that's the secondary fuss because they're trying to add on to the main fuss. But the main fuss was this lack of decorum.

Starting point is 02:18:14 Really? It should have been in there was a suit and tie saying, stop it, boys, stop singing. But here's a part two of this clip. Now, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee says he has evidence that Patel's past travel has actually hampered FBI investigations. What can you tell us about that? Right. This is Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin.

Starting point is 02:18:31 He said in a letter to the government accountability office yesterday that whistleblowers have come forward with information that Patel's decisions about the use of FBI plants have hampered a couple of high-profile investigations. One instance, according to Durbin, an FBI team was delayed at least a day getting to Utah after conservative activist Charlie Kirk's assassination there because of a plane and pilot shortage caused, Durbin says, by Patel's personal flights. Durbin also says a team of FBI investigators was enabled to fly to Rhode Island after the shooting at Brown University because of Patel's decisions about planes. Now, FBI spokesman Ben Williamson has rejected both of those allegations. on Brown University specifically, Williams said on X that Patel was in Florida visiting his parents at the time, but that there was no issue with aircraft being unavailable.

Starting point is 02:19:19 Needless to say, though, this issue, this travel issue for Patel is not going away. And Paris Ryan Lucas, thanks as always. Thank you. Ah, it's Jetgate. This thing has legs. They're going to go after him. They're going to go after him real hard. Here's the Jake Tapper.

Starting point is 02:19:34 Tapper did a whole segment on it. Oh, this is outrageous. Believe it or not, that's your FBI director, Pat Patel, celebrating with the U.S. men's hockey team after their overtime win against Canada to win the gold medal. It was an incredible win that all Americans can celebrate. Now, why exactly the...

Starting point is 02:19:59 What? Except Patel. All Americans can celebrate, but not Patel. The FBI director, who you might think would be busy with all sorts of things, why he's in the locker room in Italy, seemingly pounding beers along with the team. Well, you could be forgiven if you're pounding beers. Unlike Jake Tapper who was pounding beers at the deputy CIA director's birthday party.

Starting point is 02:20:25 Okay. Asking that question, especially after FBI spokesman Ben Williamson was lashing out at a reporter from a different network on Twitter the day before the game for asking whether Patel was going to attend the match, the FBI spokesman writing, quote, your rag outlet, wrote that he went to hang out at the Olympics on the taxpayer dime, even when provided information that your theory was false, I'm quote. Now, the FBI is denying this was a personal trip for Patel. They say the director flew to Milan on the FBI's

Starting point is 02:20:52 Gulfstream private jet for meetings with Italian law enforcement and security officials, adding that the FBI plays a major role in Olympic security and that the trip was playing months in advance. Of course, the Olympics was planned years in advance. Director Patel responded to the criticism

Starting point is 02:21:08 on X, apparently not taking it very seriously, writing, quote, for the very concerned media, yes, I love America and was extremely humbled with my friends, the newly minted gold medal winners on Team USA, invited me into the locker room to celebrate this historic moment with the boys, unquote, of course, the issue is not whether or not Cash Patel loves America, it's about his judgment and whether or not he's embarrassing the bureau and the perks he grabs and the seriousness with which he treats his job. And one would think the FBI is pretty busy these days with lots of things going on. Oh, man. He didn't stop there. We've got to evidence.

Starting point is 02:21:47 The government accountability office estimates, estimates that flying the FBI private jet costs at least $5,000 per hour. Yeah. Try closer to $11,000 an hour, if it's the plane, I think it is. Five thousand is pretty cheap. Meaning Patel's Olympic trip could theoretically cost taxpayers at least tens of thousands of dollars. And we should note that the FBI director, for security reasons, is legally mandated to use government aircraft for all travel, including personal trips, but they are required to reimburse taxpayers for the commercial cost of their travel. But the question is, why was he in Italy to begin with? The trip to Italy is far from the only time that Patel has faced accusations of using government for his personal benefit. Reportedly, Patel's direction, the FBI is even providing a separate

Starting point is 02:22:29 security detail for his girlfriend. No, not his wife, not his girlfriend, country music singer Alexis Wilkins, who lives part-time in Nashville. Stop, stop. Is he married? No, I don't think he is. He has the honeypot girlfriend, remember? That's the one who is... I know that he's got the girlfriend, but is he married?

Starting point is 02:22:50 I don't think so. Then why would you say not his wife? He doesn't have a wife. You just put that in to make it sound scurrilous, as though he's ditched his wife, and he's running off with this other woman. That's what it sounds like. He's not his wife. He said, wasn't with his wife.

Starting point is 02:23:12 Good catch. His girlfriend, no, not his wife, not his fiance. His girlfriend, country music singer Alexis Wilkins, who lives part-time in Nashville. Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee launched an investigation last year into Patel's use of the FBI jet for private travel. There was a time, of course, you might remember when Cash Patel seemed to have a different attitude towards the use of government resources. This is from his confirmation hearing last year. the resources of the FBI, which are funded by the American taxpayer dollars, in the seven minutes that you and I have been talking about,

Starting point is 02:23:45 two people have died from fentanyl overdoses. One person has been shot to death in this country, and three people have been raped. The resources of the FBI will go to that mission set and that mission set alone, because America deserves a better brand of justice, and I'm going to give it to them. Okay, so how many Americans died of fentanyl overdoses, how many Americans were shot to death, and how many Americans were raped, while Cash Patel was celebrating in that locker. Oh, brother.

Starting point is 02:24:13 The hatred. The hatred is so deep. What happened to love, conquer's hate? Bad Bunny's words. Like, oh, man, oh, man. All right. I mean, in the Netherlands, the king,

Starting point is 02:24:35 when he was Prince, Prince Pils, For beer. I mean, he would, when the Dutch won something, he'd be freaking out, he'd throwing beer over each other. Everyone thought that was cool. Yeah. No, not in America. No, you can't celebrate anything here. Well, not if you're a Republican. Yeah. No. You can't. If you're anything else, it doesn't matter. Going on to Screwball stories, that's, if I got a couple here, I want to play this one.

Starting point is 02:25:04 This is the Cuba story. I have questions. Yeah, that is a screwball story. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says U.S. authorities are doing their own investigation into an incident early this morning. This comes after Cuba says its border guards shot and killed four people and wounded six aboard a Florida registered speedboat off the Cuban coast. Cuba's Interior Ministry claims the crew aboard the vessel opened fire on the guards first, who then returned fire. Your Secretary Rubio just moments ago. We have our embassy on the ground in Havana working this as we speak, asking for access to the people that were on those vessels.

Starting point is 02:25:43 We are going to verify that information independently and reach our own conclusions. Cuban officials claim the commander of the Cuban vessel was wounded in the shooting. The ministry released a statement following the incident saying Cuba would protect its territorial waters. Florida's attorney general says he has directed the office of statewide prosecution to investigate. Secretary Rubio says the result of the investigation will be presented to policymakers, including the president for potential further action. Hi, your questions. Well, we're doing all this action against Cuba, and we still have an embassy there?

Starting point is 02:26:21 They haven't kicked us out? Yeah, I didn't realize that either. In Havana. Well, of course we did, because that's where the Havana syndrome came from. Well, I know about the Havana syndrome, and it came from there, supposedly. but we're taking action. We've cut them off from the oil supply. They can't refuel their jets or anything.

Starting point is 02:26:42 And they're having power outages. And they've let us keep an embassy there. This doesn't make any sense to me. I agree. You would have thought they at least would have kicked our diplomats out. But also... Go ahead. I was going to say, these were Cuban Americans, supposedly, who went over there.

Starting point is 02:27:01 I mean, this has, in some way, it has Bay of Pigs, to it. Yeah. Well, there's also a lot of people who are real sailboat enthusiasts. They're usually armed to the teeth on some of these boats because of piracy and the open seas in the Caribbean. Like Horowitz. Horowitz always is packing heat when he goes with his buddies.

Starting point is 02:27:21 He's going to the islands, man. He's packing heat. He's not taking no risks. He's got his, he's got his magnum. You know, he's got a 45. He's got the AR-15. He's got a. couple of grenades. He's serious. Ask him. Ask him about it. He'll tell you. Well, it's a well-known fact that

Starting point is 02:27:40 people are super careful. They're armed on these boats. Don't kid yourself. So to a last odd-ball story, but this one is going to be your favorite. The Artemis. Oh, no. NASA is moving its Artemis Moon Rocket from the launch pad back to the hangar for more repairs. It's a slow four-mile track, expected to take all day at Florida's Kennedy Space Center. Managers ordered the rollback over the weekend after a problem developed with the rocket's helium pressurization system. The launch team had been targeting March for the Artemis II astronaut mission, humanity's first trip to the moon in decades, but now it's off until at least April. Yes, of course. Because, you know, we did this with a tin can 50 years ago.

Starting point is 02:28:29 A tin can and some hoodies. With the garbage pail on their head. Yeah, that's okay. And we'll get there eventually. They're not even landing on the moon. This is going to fly around it. Yeah, there's a fly around. Yeah, a little CGI, a little AI.

Starting point is 02:28:46 It'll be great. And unfortunately, it could be a lie. It could be, they could be misleading us, but it appears we did not have copulation in space. It was not the female astronaut who was pregnant. NASA is sharing the following information. at the request of NASA astronaut Mike Fink. On January 7th, while aboard the International Space Station, I experienced a medical event that required immediate attention from my incredible crewmates.

Starting point is 02:29:16 Thanks to their quick response and the guidance of our NASA flight surgeons, my status quickly stabilized. After further evaluation, NASA determined the safest course was an early return for crew 11, not an emergency, but a carefully coordinated plan to be able to take advantage of advanced medical imaging. not available on the space station. On January 15th, we splash down off the coast of San Diego after an amazing five-and-a-half-month mission. I'm deeply grateful to my fellow expedition 74 members, Zena Cardman, Kimia Ui, Oleg Platanov, Chris Williams, Sergey Kudh Vervchav, and Sergei Keev, as well as the entire NASA team, SpaceX, and the medical professionals at Scripps Memorial Hospital, La Jolla near San Diego. Their professionalism

Starting point is 02:30:03 and dedication ensured a positive outcome. I'm doing very well in continuing standard post-flight reconditioning at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. Space flight is an incredible privilege and sometimes it reminds us just how human we are. Thank you for all your support. I guess your theory doesn't pan out.

Starting point is 02:30:23 Not necessarily. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, a couple of things I keep an eye on the woman and see if she has a baby. Well, that's what you do, yes. Yeah, or the reason they want to bring out this cock and bull story, which is possible, is that she had an abortion. Oh, goodness gracious. Okay, I guess anything's possible.

Starting point is 02:30:46 Might be a bit of a stretch. We still don't know what the guy. I don't think it's a stretch. Yes. We haven't talked about it. I did find this report from global news relatively complete regarding El Mentiono. the Mexican drug cartel leader, and we should probably just wrap it all up with this report,

Starting point is 02:31:13 and we can maybe discuss after. The operation to capture Mexico's most powerful cartel leader, known as El Muncho, unfolded in a small town near Guadalajara, where Mexican special forces acted on a tip from an associate of one of his romantic partners. In the raid that followed, the wanted drug lord was seriously wounded. He later died during an airlift. This was a very, very effective take down of one of the biggest leaders,

Starting point is 02:31:43 and it was done based on the intelligence that they conducted primarily. Mexico's defense minister became emotional as he honored the 25 National Guard members killed in Operation Sunday. The prosecutor's office, where El Mancho's body was reportedly taken, is now under head. heavy guards. President Claudia Shanebaum denied direct U.S. involvement in the operation, but acknowledged the Americans did provide intelligence. U.S. President Donald Trump has previously threatened military strikes inside Mexico targeting cartels and has designated El Mentiono's cartel, a foreign terrorist organization. It's no coincidence that the Mexican government decides to act when it's under unprecedented levels of pressure from the Trump administration

Starting point is 02:32:32 to crack down on the cartels. The fear now is that violence may continue to spiral as cartel members fight for power and battle for territory. There are three people who are going to compete to become the new leader of the cartel and the political protection will go on. While experts warn, the death of Almencho alone will do little to disrupt Mexico's sprawling narco empires.

Starting point is 02:32:56 It is a very superficial way to attack the cartels and doesn't speak to a sort of more profound, deep extraction of their roots that are so deeply embedded in Mexico. Facing unprecedented violence, it's now a question of whether Mexican officials want to go deeper, or if the cartels are too rich and too powerful to truly be disrupted. This was kind of interesting. First of all, I think we needed to clean up Mexico for FIFA, for the World Cup. You know, we've got to clean that place up a bit. but it seems like like 20% of Mexico is in some way, in some shape or form employed by the cartels.

Starting point is 02:33:38 Do you heard this? Yeah, I've heard that number and other numbers and it just seems as though it's so embedded. They want to just let the cartels bite each other to the death and let them take the country over. Well, they seem to, you know, yeah, there's rivalry once in a while, but they, you know, I've received different boots on the ground. I won't read them, but sometimes. Some people say, you know, everyone's happy, get rid of these guys. Other people say, you know, they come into the neighborhood. They take care of, like the mob.

Starting point is 02:34:06 You know, they take care of the kids, bring candy for the kids, flowers for the women. You know, it cuts both ways. And this guy was not an El Chapo kind of boasty guy. He was supposedly a man of the people. A man of the people. No matter what, the banks are going to have some trouble. Got no more money to launder for a while. I think that may be...

Starting point is 02:34:30 Well, from that group anyway. Yeah, from that group. I don't know. Any thoughts besides the fact that we clearly were helping? I have no thoughts on it. I mean, I know the rioting was one-shot deal. There was supposedly there was a couple of TikTokers online that are talking about it. And I have no, you know, it could be all bull crap to me.

Starting point is 02:34:54 I mean, I have no, nothing, nothing got nothing. Well, that is, that's not a great way to get. get into our second donation segment. You need to say something funny, witty, or... How about playing a clip? Okay. One more. Last clip for me. This is the Mystery School District Story. The FBI conducting a search on Wednesday at the home and office of a Los Angeles school official. A spokesperson for the FBI Los Angeles Field Office confirms that agents were at the

Starting point is 02:35:22 headquarters of the L.A. Unified School District and at the home of Superintendent Alberto Carvalo. location in Florida was also searched. It's unclear what the investigation is about. But the school district says it's cooperating with the investigation and doesn't have further information at this time. Curvalho, himself and immigrants who had once overstayed his visa, has been vocal about protecting students from ICE activity at schools. He's been the Los Angeles Public Schools superintendent since 2022. Before that, he oversaw Florida's largest school district for more than a decade. The LA Unified School District is the nation's second largest, with more than 500,000 students and covering

Starting point is 02:36:06 more than two dozen cities. The office of L.A. Mayor Karen Bass says it has no information about the search of the school district's headquarters. Some sort of corruption. I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who the It was awesome. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. That's right. Oh, no agenda in the morning. It's better than nothing.

Starting point is 02:36:34 Yeah. And so we have a few more people to thank for today's show at 1846, I believe. It is. And Adam will start with the top of the list and go right down to the 50s. Yes, and we have to stop at this first one because it's blue. Meg C.C. comes in from Grove City, Ohio, with $150. Not only is today her 43rd birthday,

Starting point is 02:36:57 but she thought, hey, what better way to celebrate than becoming a dame? My dad, Rick hit me in the mouth during 2020. I've been listening ever since. Thanks, Dad. I eventually hit my now husband in the mouth and we listened to every show together.

Starting point is 02:37:09 That's why you're still together. In fact, when we got married, the first thing we listened to in the car and the way to our reception was the no agenda show. Woo! Do you have kids yet? Tell us about that.

Starting point is 02:37:20 We started going to our local no agenda meetup in the Central Ohio. in central Ohio, and now we have our own little troll room connection is protection. This is the best podcast in the universe. You both are a gift to this world. I would like to be known as Dame Meg of the Massachusetts refugees. I would like an iced coffee and a piece of, I didn't actually put, I kind of ordered that now,

Starting point is 02:37:41 and a piece of strawberry cheesecake at the round table. And could I have so, oh, there you go. So they need some baby making karma because that is. And remember, whatever happens, this kid, has to be named after John and after me. That is the rule. It can be, even if it's a girl, it's after John and after me. You've got Parma.

Starting point is 02:38:09 And yes, you are added to the birthday list, and we also got the ice coffee and a piece of strawberry cheesecake for you. Going down the list, William Gibbs, Atlanta, Georgia, 105, 35, Robin Tolbert, Topeka, Kansas, 103, 33. I see what you did there. 100 bucks from Anonymous in Fredericksburg, Verde. Virginia, 100 bucks from David and Renee Mapstone in Spring Grove, Pennsylvania. Thank you both. Bless you. Robert Osigueda in eastern Connecticut. Boobes 808. Kevin McWafflin. Of course, he's always there with his boob donation.

Starting point is 02:38:43 Boob donation. God bless America. He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of America. And boobes 8.08. Brian Kaufman, Scottsdale, Arizona, 75, 75. Matthew Elwood, Weatherford, Texas. Small boob, 6.006. Les Tarkowski from Kingman, Arizona, also with the small boobs. And Dame Liberty Mom from Vista, California, she shows her small boobs with a donation of $60. And six cents. Baron Henry of the Outpost West Rancho Polish Verdes, California, 59, 92. Kurt Lubinowski, Ramsey, New Jersey, 58 birthday donation. The longer I live, the more you get.

Starting point is 02:39:18 I guess you're 58 today. Jeff Paul, Fergus Falls, Minnesota, 56. He turned 56 on the 18th. I love it when you celebrate your birthday with a donation to the show. Gregory Kierdak in Padova, in Italy. Padova, Italy, 555, 55. Thank you, Gregory. Alex Delgado, Aptos, California.

Starting point is 02:39:40 These are the 50s already. Noel McDonald, Traverse City, Michigan, George Wushett in Lavernia, Texas. Aaron Joyce in York, Pennsylvania. Todd Myers in Diamond Head, Missouri, 50. And finally, Michael Kemmerer from Snohomish, Washington. and $50. I do see a number of $49.99. That's Mississippi. Did I say, what did I say? Michigan? I meant Missouri. You always say Missouri for some reason. Because I'm an idiot, I think. No. Something stuck there.

Starting point is 02:40:12 It's Ms. Well, the first thing when I see MS, I think Ms. Now, and it's just, it goes away from there. You should just say that. Ms. Now. Michael Myers from Ms. Now. We'll cut it in. 3, 2, 1. Michael Myers from Diamondhead, Ms. Now, 50 bucks. And finally, Michael Kermar, Snohomish, Washington, $50. Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda show. And for those under 50, we don't mention you for reasons of anonymity, but you are appreciated.

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Starting point is 02:41:01 It's a birthday, birthday. So we've got a list. We got Jeff Paul who turned 46 on February 18th. Also on the 18th, Leo Atkinson, Meg C.C. turned 43 today. And finally on the list, Kurt Lubanowski, celebrating his birthday. So we say happy birthday to everybody here on behalf of the best podcast in the universe. Got a layaway night to celebrate Nathan Klein.

Starting point is 02:41:29 He says, thanks for all you guys do to keep my brain tuned appropriately. You deserve more than I've been able to donate. Layaway's work, people. I would like to be known as Surendipity of the Ozarks. And he started his layaway on July 29, 2022. He would have reached his knighthood with his October 2025 donation, but obviously continuing. And I'm not quite, he will continue to donate, what he's saying.

Starting point is 02:41:52 Beautiful. So let's get our dame and our two knights up here. John, if you got a blade? Yeah, you got a blade right here. That's beautiful. I'm Nathan Klein. Also, we welcome Bob Newell and Meg C.C. All three of you are joining that illustrious group.

Starting point is 02:42:11 That is the group of No Agenda Knights and Dames. Thanks to your support of $1,000 or more. And I'm very proud to pronounce the Cate the Az. Dame Meg of the Massachusetts Refugees, Syrenipity of the O's, Sharks and Robert, Sir Robert of the Penfield. For yaw, for you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys, and chardonnake, lights, camera, and devotion, now available on Amazon.com. Noki and cornbread, iced coffee, and a piece of strawberry cheesecake. Along with that, we got Bonghead's and bourbon, sparkling cider, and escorts, ginger, and gerbils, breast milk, and pabloman.

Starting point is 02:42:41 And, as always, at the round table. Plenty of mutton and mead. Enjoy that and go to Knowaginawring.com. Anybody can go to Knowaginor Rings.com. take a look at those beautiful rings for knights and for dames. They are Cignet rings, so we will accompany your ring in your size, if you supply us with your ring size, ring sizing guide on the website,

Starting point is 02:43:02 with some wax. You can use that to imprint your No Agenda ITM seal of approval there for your important correspondence. And of course, it also always comes with a certificate of authenticity. Congratulations and welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable. Sir Tuferi sent his missed note. I'm not sure we missed it, but something with PayPal.

Starting point is 02:43:21 You never know on Sunday $223. He says, the note wasn't important, but I did have a suggestion for the show. I made the proposal that you go back to doing the show, hi. Not for every show, but maybe twice a month. Okay. And he ends with God bless.

Starting point is 02:43:41 Thank you very much. We'll take it into consideration for the next meeting. All right. Thank you very much. I think that's, yeah, that's it. We can go on to the meetup. It's perfect. No, agenda.

Starting point is 02:43:55 I'm not sure why, but I have a feeling I missed a meetup report somewhere. So if I miss that today, then please send that to me. We'll do it on Sunday show. We do have a meetup coming up this Saturday, the Dallas Fort Worth Mid Cities. It's back after the holidays. Now, this is an early one kicks off at 11.30 in the morning at ChefPoint. And it's Sir NerdWorks, who is organizing that. You need to contact him for details, sounds like.

Starting point is 02:44:24 an exclusive deal there. Also on Saturday, the No Agenda Meetup for February at Jack's Brewery. This is Columbus, Ohio. That'll be at noon. And another Duke of San Francisco birthday bash. Also on Saturday, 33 at Connecticut Yankee in San Francisco, California. Sir Rekalcern Crazy Steve the second hosting. I don't know if you're planning on going, John, but it's Crazy Steve. He does good meetups. I'm just saying. And we have another meetup on Saturday. These things are popular. The South Louisiana, South Louisiana, Bayou Bruhaha, 4 o'clock at Fred's on the River in Prairieville, Louisiana. Dame Mary Moon is hosting that. Coming up in March, we have Buenos Aires, Argentina. Look at that on the 5th. Raleigh, North Carolina, Tinley Park, Illinois, Los Angeles, California, Eagle, Idaho, Gladewater, Texas, Indianapolis, Rockaway, New Jersey, Charlotte, North Carolina, Franklin, Tennessee. Who's doing Franklin, Tennessee? It's very cool.

Starting point is 02:45:23 and Fort Wayne, Indiana, many more to be found, including the April 11th meetups in Fredericksburg, Texas, and Osaka, Japan. Yes, we are bad, we are nationwide, we are the No Agenda Show. If you're a part of it, you've got to go to one of these meetups. You will not regret it. You will get connection that gives you protection. All the people you meet at a No Agenda Meetup are your first responders in an emergency. Go there, because when they make you stable, you are able. Noagendametups.com.

Starting point is 02:45:52 It's real easy. Go to the website. Find one near you. Go to it. Enjoy yourself. If you can't find one near you, how about this? Start one yourself.

Starting point is 02:46:00 Noagenda meetups.com. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. Drink it all hell lame, but it feels the same. Party. It is always like a party. Guaranteed these things are like a party. And before we get to John's tip,

Starting point is 02:46:28 of the day and some dynamite end of show mixes. We do have an ISO to choose. We always do that at the end. Just as a little fun thing for ourselves. Usually it's man against machine, but I have all humanoids for this particular ISO face-off. And I will start.

Starting point is 02:46:44 Ready? Yeah, how many you got? Two. Go. These people are crazy. I thought it would be an actual. And here's another one. You did amazing.

Starting point is 02:46:58 I kind of like that one. Well, I got some Trump, too. That's funny. What's you got? Let's start with Incredible. I got to tell you, these guys do an incredible job. Yeah, it's a little bit better than mine. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 02:47:11 I also got Trump talking about donating. Wow, what a great podcast. Donate. Wait a minute. That's AI? That's pretty good. No, that was on the speech. You didn't hear it? No, I did not hear that on the speech. No.

Starting point is 02:47:28 Well, if you didn't hear that, because I was right with this one, which is the Freedom Award. Give John and Adam a freedom award. Yeah, that's a little too kooky. Yeah, all right. And then I went to the well and got Gavin Newsom to discuss comparing his podcast to ours. My podcast stinks compared to these guys. It's a toss-up for me between this one. Well, where is it?

Starting point is 02:47:53 My podcast stinks compared to these guys. But I think I like this one better. Wow, what a great podcast. Donate. I think that's just better. I mean, we want to end with donate, don't we? Yeah, we do. Every single time. Hey, before we get to that, though, it's time for John's tip of the day.

Starting point is 02:48:10 Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes at all. All right, this is a simplistic, very simple tip that I was digging around. I said, oh, I should give this a tip of the day. people don't realize how important it is to have one of these things. They're a buck or two. They're cheap.

Starting point is 02:48:33 And they're extremely handy for writing on anything that is just a little different, like a wine bottle or a, I use them to write information. If you have a power supply and it's two volts, so many amps, I write it on the side using a, and this is the tip, a silver sharpie. If you don't have a silver. Oh, I love silver sharpies. Silver Sharpies are the handiest thing. I mean, I first discovered him back in this floppy disk era

Starting point is 02:49:01 when you could write on floppy disks with them, but they're just handy for everything you should, because there's a lot, everything, you know, people make stuff out of plastic and it's black, and you can't write on it. You want a silver Sharpie. Do you know how many mixers I've written stuff on with a silver Sharpie? I've lost count. You know, you put, you know, because the mixers,

Starting point is 02:49:21 they never like correspond to the players and stuff. or they have no numbers, and so I'll write down one through eight. Oh, yeah. So that is a tip I can agree with. Also, handy if you have twins, you can write on the forehead, which one is which. Just a thought. And what is the retail price of the silver? I think they're a $1.99 max.

Starting point is 02:49:43 You should get a six-pack. And the six-packs are probably, you know, less than it, probably eight bucks or so. They're your terrific product. Outstanding product, everybody. Another fabulous tip of the day. Get them all at Noagenda fun.com. Tip of the day. Dotting.com.

Starting point is 02:49:57 Create advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnettie. Yes. Okay. We're done. That doesn't mean that the party stops

Starting point is 02:50:15 because right after we're done, John and I start talking about what we're going to do on Sunday because we do this for you. We do not conform to the ways of this world, we do not let ourselves be captured by people who think we should say something.

Starting point is 02:50:29 We don't believe in it. No, we do this because we are the truth. Truth, I tell you. At least it's what we believe. And we've been pretty right in 18 years. Coming up next on the No agenda screen, we have, ah, the latest episode of Grimica.

Starting point is 02:50:48 Make sure you catch that. We have end of show mixes from ID Pop. We got Paul Revere. And we've got MVP, and they are dynamite. So enjoy that. And we'll be back on Sunday coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas, where we've got lots of good wineries. Come visit us and make sure you leave on time. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Starting point is 02:51:13 And from northern Silicon Valley, where we still demand accountability. I'm John C. DeVorek. We'll be back on Sunday. Please join us for at least three hours of media deconstruction. And remember us at no agenda donations.com. Until then, adios, mophos, a hooey, hooey, and such. My son, Buzzkill Jr., robot. AI has a huge advantage.

Starting point is 02:51:39 It already has humanoid movement. It tells people what to do. We are the robots. The way people are going talking to these chatbots, the brain is in the phone, and you are the robot. Another be a robot. We are the robots. The economic output of a large number of humanoid robots is the average

Starting point is 02:52:06 for a robot times the number of robots. Wow. Wow. Let's listen to that calculation again. It's like Blade Runner, right? You don't want human impersonation when you think you're talking to a human being, but it's actually a robot and you need to be a robot. You need to be able to actually clearly label that he's a robot.

Starting point is 02:52:23 You are the robot. He was just a robot. Yeah, exactly. Robot. No, no, no, no. Say it's not so. Robot. That was so dumb.

Starting point is 02:52:40 Now here's a little story I got to tell about three Democrats that you know so well. It started way back in history with A-Rod. Very old. And me, Joe B. Then had a little honey named Avidin. Just me and my honey. Fifth of gin riding cross the land, kicking up sand, polling higher than Trump because I'm in command. One lone demo, crad I be, all by myself without no bod-e.

Starting point is 02:53:07 No opposition since we threw out Joe. The race is getting vile. The gin is getting low, looking for a win. I ran into a guy. His name is Barry O. I said howdy. He said, Bye.

Starting point is 02:53:21 Now, I've got the juice. You've got the gin. You've got two. choices of how you can win. It's not a tough decision, as you can see. You go on your own or you can ride with me. I said, I'll ride with you if you can cover up one detail. The feds are after me for what I did with my email. I hit it like this. I hit it like that. I hit it with a wiffle ball bat. So we're on the trail. The fed's got my mail. And right about now, I need a cocktail. The Queen H-rod, that is my name. And I know the fly spot where they got the champagne.

Starting point is 02:53:53 We rode for six hours and we hit the spot And we met up with a man that the world forgot This dude was staring like he knows who we are We took the empty spot next to him at the bar Berry O said, YPEO! You know this guy? I said I didn't, but that was a lie. The guy said, Get ready, because this is no joke. My name is Joe B and you know I'm provoked.

Starting point is 02:54:14 Held out his hand and looked us in the eye. He yelled... Pulled my finger. And let two fly. Customers gagged as they hit the floor. two kids passed out while they ran for the door. I'm Joe B, and I get respect. The presidential nominee is what I expect.

Starting point is 02:54:30 But you chose to shut me out of the race. You ignored my seniority and threw it in my face. But my roll doesn't slow. My fuel doesn't stop. I pour gasoline on my corn pop. Joe Bia rambled away. Barry O snatched the Coke. And I started cooking a Russian hoax.

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