No Agenda - 1848 - "Podcaster Down!"

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

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Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, March 5th, 2026. This is your award-winning, Give-One Nation Media Assassination Episode 1848. This is no agenda. Wondering where the newsletter went and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.

In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. I can't find John anywhere. It's crackpot and buzzkill. What in the world? is going on here. Wait a minute. You're not John. Who is this? This is Mimi. Ladies and gentlemen, there you go. A first on the no agenda show, a voice we have never heard. I don't think we've ever had a different voice in the opening ever. No, no, not true. What do you mean?

John, John sometimes mimics me and I do not sound like what he says. No, you have a very nice microphone presence. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mimi Dvorak coming in from the great state of Washington. Yep. The upper left corner, Port Angeles, Washington, yes. And I will say that I got a phone call from Andrew Horowitz, a little past 8 o'clock, a little past 9 o'clock, his time. And I thought that my first thought was,

there's something wrong with the stream. And he wants to know if I can find Void Zero or some crap like that. Like, hello, what's going on? Yeah, what's going on with John? What do you mean? Well, I hear he's in the hospital. I'm like, what? What?

Wait a minute. How can you know this and I not know this? And so here we are. Now we're about 24 hours later. Mimi, what is going on? Good question. I got a call from John yesterday afternoon and he said, hey, I'm at the doctor's office. I was getting blood tests.

And now I'm heading to the hospital. So I was like, okay. Okay, yeah. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He was calling from his cell phone? Yes. Amazing. My first question.

It says John News cell. Wow. What is this? What is going on with this? So we actually had the cell phone with him. This is interesting. I know. Well, I think he had some, he figured you might need it.

So he, yeah, so he's in the hospital. he uh what can i say he's alive without without breaking breaking any hip of violations can you uh can you give us a little more details about what's going on yeah he's going to have to have a double bypass um tomorrow the next day and he will be a little bit out of commission for a few days and then i will force i'll be i'll drive down and i'll force him to get back on on the air wow Wow, wow. I mean, honestly, this was shocking to me and to people I know because, you know, we hear John twice a week and he sounds fine. Everything's great. You know, never notice a thing. And all of a sudden, just boom, double bypass. This must have been going on for a tad. It can't come out of the blue from nowhere. It was silent. And you know, and here's the thing. You know, what's funny is that today I talk to everyone except two janitors at the hospital. What, no way. Mimi calls me and I say, hey, have you heard anything? Oh, yeah. I've talked to everybody in the hospital, including, except not the janitor, but the janitor's calling you back in five minutes. You totally had everybody on the phone.

So they're asking, well, you know, because they've seen John since he's been kind of out of it. I mean, right now he's pretty out of it. So they're like, well, what's he like? Is, is he able to manage? Does he get any exercise? Is he mentally there? And I'm like, did you tell him that he co-hosts the best podcast in the universe? I did. And then one of the nurses goes, I listen to that.

Really? Oh, awesome. There you go. There you go. That's the guy. That's him. Really? That's the guy.

Right. So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a bit of a shock to me. And I didn't plan on going down to California tomorrow. But, you know, he's a tough old monster. Or as Christina said, he's a tough old goat. I thought that one. That was another good description. Yeah.

Yeah, in a way, he is. You know, the one thing I've warned them is like, oh, he's not going to be really happy. No, indeed. Because is he out now? They sedated him? He's asleep. He had procedures today to identify what was going on. And because, you know, he had to be on his back for a long time.

They decided it was good to intubate him, which he wasn't happy about. Oh, goodness. No. And, you know, he's got a little bit of fluid on his lungs, so they have to clean that up. And so, yeah, but, you know, he'll, he should be fine. I mean, we'll see. We'll see how much he yells at me. tomorrow.

Yeah. But yeah. I mean, I have had friends, many friends who've had this procedure. I know lots of people. And these days, modern medicine, you know, the one thing I know they're good at is mechanics. Broken bones and heart stuff. They are so good at that. They kick people out of the hospital within days after these procedures.

Yep. Yep. So, well, they've already said that after surgery, they don't tend to keep people more than five days and usually three if they can get him out fast enough. So that's good. You know, he's, you know, I mean, John is actually in good shape because he lives at a stairmaster. He goes up and down, you know, a thousand stairs all the time because he lives on a hill. And then, you know, he cooks and he, you know, he actually prepares decent meals and, you know, and he keeps engaged with the universe, although maybe not get, doesn't get out of the house that much. Well, once every three months for a meetup. I mean, you know, he does get out a little bit.

And to go to that stupid market where all the stuff is secondhand or whatever it is. Oh, gross out. Yeah, the gross out. The ugly market, yes. So what we're doing, because, of course, you know, I even talk to Horowitz. And we're like, you know, hey, man, it's like Darren O'Neill's lined up. MoFax is lined up. I mean, there's a lot of people that we could be bringing into these shows.

You know, it's like everybody's knocking on the door. but obviously we said there's no no agenda or no dh unplug without john it's just it's not the same it would never be the same so we've decided we're going to do best of shows we happen to have a best of for no agenda in the can which funny enough is the exit strategies revisited and I'm like this is not an exit strategy DeVore Act? This is not how it's supposed to go. And I know you don't like exit strategies. You always say it's bad for donations. In fact, the show starts off with John complaining about you complaining about exit strategy stories. But these are pretty funny. And John Jensen's circumference put it together. Since we probably won't have John back for a couple of shows, I would like to

make the call out now to all no agenda producers. Here's the moment. where you can step up. You can make some killer best of shows. Binget.io is your tool. You can find everything. You can clip everything. Any ideas we're open to it because we just want to have people entertained

while we wait for John to recover and come back. And so it would be fantastic if people can help us out with that. Although, you know, this is the exact wrong time for John to do this. I mean, there's so much great news going on. I mean, I'm like, holy crap, this is, this is the worst moment. People need us now more than ever. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know.

Well, I have a feeling the war will continue for a little bit. We'll ask the president to extend it so we can slide back in and do some more deconstruction. But man, yeah, the media is going nuts. Everybody's going nuts. But you know what? It is what it is. And we're just happy that he's in good hands. I know that everybody hearing this will be thinking of him, sending positive vibes.

For the sons and daughters of God, you know what to do. Everyone here in Fredericksburg is praying for John and for you and for JC and for Jay. And we really want to get him back on the air as soon as possible. And we still have to pay the bills. Well, this is true. This is true. So we'll talk about that in a second. And we're going to start in right now with the circumferences best of exit strategies revisited,

which starts off, as I said, with a complaint about the whole concept. Well, I would like to point out that we are a U.S. made podcast. We are. And I have a possible exit strategy that's been staring us in the face for a long time. Yes, I have to point out to you that Mimi's objecting to this concept. Do you even know what my concept is? It doesn't matter. Oh.

She says that every time you mention exit strategy, it gives her a shill. And she says it's a triggering, it's triggering, and she says it's hurting donations. Well, what if I told her that we could, with our Dutch masters, we could bring in maybe $500, $600,000 as an exit strategy? Would that give her a difference feeling? It's still going to hurt donations. In fact, that'll hurt donations more. If they got that much money, why they don't need mine? Really now.

So you're saying that our joke about exit strategy, which will never achieve and have been talking about for almost 17 years, I think show number 10 we were talking about how do we get out of this gig, that that's been hurting donations? She says yes. Man, John and I have talked about this so many times. We've talked about it. We've talked about it on the show. We always said it was a good idea. And then once again, we just let it slip. And now some idiot's gone off and done it, and we're left holding nothing.

Exit strategy of the year. A lingerie company from Japan is now creating lace underwear for men. Now, it might sound like a strange idea, but Wakel didn't just jump into the idea blindly. Don't you remember this? That was like 12 years ago. Yes. But now, and it's a hit. It's a hit.

Look, they even tested it the way we wanted to. I think it's a hit in the sense that what was the actor, Sean Penn's bitching about, that his men are getting feminized. There's no men anymore. It's terrible. Yeah, that's why we knew this would be the product. In November, they tested the waters by offering lace boxers on a crowdfunding platform. It was very popular earning more than $28,000 in pledges. I'm telling you, ma'am.

All right. Well, we missed it. I guess back to the podcast for us. Reach migrant farm workers through carefully timed radio spots. She says the new round of funding will allow the coalition to build on what they've learned and get more people vaccinated. Holy crap, we are idiots. Easy exit strategy. We could have easily written up a grant and said, look, we're going to convince crackpots to get vaccinated.

It might not work, but I think, you know, we've learned. a lot so far doing this program so you should up the money this is we're ready for another we've had learning so let's try it again and do some more that was easy money john yeah now you want to watch this is about a um a writer who are a magazine editor who wants to create her first magazine and she winds up teaming up with a pornographer and they create a women like like basically like playgirl but it's the 70s and it's so well done everything is i mean everything is recognizable, the colors, the whole thing is cool. So 70s are back, baby.

Wait, bell bottoms, anybody? We can make a killing. Here's our exit strategy. Just, if we go into, if we go long bell bottoms, bell bottoms may be part of a different cycle. I think the miniskirts is where we should be headed. Oh, baby. Now you're talking my kind of 70s.

That's beautiful. And just on Amber Heard. So, no, I've avoided that because I actually have other things to do with my life, like, you know, getting interesting clips of stuff that makes a difference in our life. However, I'm looking for clips. However, I had to get two box fans because now we have another, an S-9 minor. So now this room where I have this setup is getting kind of hot to blow some air out. So I go to Walmart, which is out on 290. and in the car, I hear Fox News, they're talking to Sheila Jackson Lee, which by itself is like,

okay, but she's irritating, but at least she was talking about something relevant to what's going on in the world, and the Fox News hosts are going, yeah, okay, just briefly, yeah, okay, we got to go. Thank you, Sheila Jackson Lee. I was a pleasure. Because we have to go now live to Amber Hurd's testimony. Like, wow, great television programming choice, but for news channel, what a, dumb thing. And what happened is I sat in the Walmart parking lot for 15 minutes listening to her,

I have to say, riveting testimony. What is it about celebrity and fame that just draws even me in just to hear about how she took off his boots? It's like, I can't help. What is that? What is that? What is wrong with the human psyche that me, even me, who lived some of this stupid celebrity life, that it's just, it's interesting to listen to. What is that? I wish I knew. I wish I could bottle it. Yeah.

There's our exit strategy. Heard in a bottle. Setting up a yak ranch in Casper, Wyoming. And he's going to be selling yak meat and yak jerky. That's one of the places where, uh, where, yeah, Wyoming's a big hot spot for the yak. Yeah. So, you know, you are the one that spearheaded this, and now she's going away with all the profits.

Wow. This was an exit strategy for us. It was clear. We should have been in on it. You know, we have a good reason for now. I may have seen this person, she before, a lot of tats. Oh, yeah. Now, you've definitely seen Jeffrey Starr.

So, yeah, the problem. is, do either one of us want to run a yak ranch? I'm really thinking, no. I got the dog for it. Yeah, you got a dog. As far as we've gotten. Hey, we're on our way. 70s reboot.

Can we get tube tops to come back? My favorite thing about tube tops with the little kids, the little, mean little kid. That sounds creepy. Okay, yes. You was a little kid, yeah. And the mean little kid, I was older than a mean little kid at the time, but I always got a kick out of it. Mean little kid come up around.

It didn't take much, but a mean little kid come up behind a girl wearing a tube top and just pull on it and boom, it popped right off. And there she was bare-breasted. It was the topless era, too, so a few of the women concerned themselves. I'm thinking we may be early enough to get a jump on this and exit strategy. But tube top? Yeah, why not? I forget. You know what they were just basically, they're made out of something.

This is my point. They're cheap to make. Yeah, they're definitely cheap to make. They look good. Yeah. Cheap, cheap, why not? People don't know that. They don't know that.

They don't know that you're a sumo wrestling. I'm a sumo. I love a sumo. This doesn't they're watching a couple of fat guys who are intentionally fat. They actually take the weight off after they quit the game. But they have to be intentionally fat because of the nature of the game. because you have to have a lot of weight. I mean, you can try the fast,

you're the fast move, the little thinner guys. Why do you need to be so fat? Just because of the pure bulk, you can just slam into people and just use your mass? Yeah, well, two reasons. One, you don't want to be someone

who can be easily pushed around because there's just a little round ring. Yeah, that's true. And you get pushed out easily if you go ahead with a big fat guy. Yeah. But it's interesting. This,

NHK has done a very good job on some of the, in the last few years of going into a lot of the details of Suma, which makes it actually even more interesting how these guys come up. And they have to, they have to literally just make themselves as fat as they can, kind of like an actor might do in a movie. And for their, and they only last in the game,

maybe five to ten years, maybe at the most. So there's some guys that stick around for some, length of time. They're more naturally big. And it's just fascinating to watch. There's lots of skill to it. But I've always thought Americans would love this because it's like... Who doesn't love fat guys?

Who doesn't love fat guys? You know, if they could combine sumo wrestling with hot dog eating, I think we'd have a winning formula for America. I think American football guards and tackles in the American Football Professional League... They're the Sumos of America. become sumos if they, you know, if they wanted to. I would like to see it. I would like to see Sumo go against the best guard in the NFL and see what happens.

As just an exhibition. Sumo football. It's getting better. I mean, we're creating an entire, this is our exit strategy. Finally, sumo football. That's it, everybody. Sumo football for Adam and John. The best thing that happened this past week is a little upsetting thing.

to me because it was such an obvious out for us. It was the exit strategy of all exit strategies. And it goes like this. It's a reality show. We know how to produce these. It's a reality show. You put seven anti-vaxxers or people who refuse to accept the vaccine into their life into a mansion. And then you send in doctors to convince them to get vax anyway.

And you film it. I mean, did we miss an opportunity there? Well, the BBC did it. They literally took seven people, put them in a mansion for five days, had two, at least two doctors, both of them proven who have had research money and other sponsorship by Pfizer. It doesn't get any better than this. Pfizer is behind it all. To stick them into this house and try to convince them that they should. accept the vaccine into their life.

And they called it a documentary. It's called unvaccinated. And the country is an uproar over this. An absolute uproar. People can't believe that the BBC would do something like this. Here's a segment on it from GBN, GB News, about this BBC documentary, unvaccinated. The BBC has been hitting the headlines for all the wrong reasons in recent weeks, but it's under fresh fire today. after the broadcast of its new documentary on Brits who have chosen not to have the COVID jab.

Unvaccinated saw seven folk put in a house for five days, while a flurry of so-called experts tried to diffuse their concerns about taking the injection. Presented by Professor Hannah Fry, a data-crunching mathematician who takes credit for bringing us out of the first lockdown in 2020. The show ultimately tried to get the group to change their minds and get vaccines. But participants of the program, which aired on BBC 2 last night, have now hit out at the quote, bias beep for crafty editing and cutting key scenes from their contributions. Here's a clip of tonight's guest, Nazarin, Veronica and Vicki Borman in action on the show. A friend Katrina, she is 28 years old.

She was perfectly healthy before. She only had one dose of the Pfizer vaccine. Five days later, she was beginning. to experience brain fog. Now she's had a stroke. She's had three suspected heart attacks. So this is a video of her having a seizure. How can you be sure that that was the vaccine

and not something that would have happened anyway? Many viewers have since blasted the BBC for broadcasting, quote, unbalanced propaganda. And the Daily Telegraph also let Rip, calling the program a painfully patronizing documentary that was akin to Big Brother sponsored by Pfizer before giving it a paltry one star out of five. It's linked in the show notes. It's on YouTube. It's a must watch. But the one side effect that everyone has heard about with heart issues, clotting,

myocarditis, periocarditis, they have a novel way of explaining this problem in Australia. Thousands of home defibrillators are being rolled out in Australian homes with hopes that one day every household will have one. They weigh less than half a kilogram. They're easy to use if anyone suddenly collapses. Every year in Australia, around 25,000 people go into sudden cardiac arrest. 80% of those happen at home, but less than 3% survive. Sudden cardiac arrest is sudden instant surprising.

You need something immediate because after 10 minutes, it's virtually impossible. to bring me back. So there's a whole promotion going on in Australia. You need a defibrillator at home. Everybody should have one. Why not? It makes so much sense. I find these things to be writing on the wall.

Where's those commercials here? It sounds like an opportunity. Ooh, exit strategy. That's what I'm thinking. We could sell them in your car. You could have them in your home. Oh, yeah. It plugs right into the cigarette lighter.

Yes, yes. How about just a backpack for kids? For kids. Backpack for school? Yeah, back to school. Got your defibrillator right there for your classmates. Well, this is a very interesting idea. And, you know, we could build that ourselves.

It's not hard. You have the skills? Yeah, just a couple of transformers and come cap. A couple of paddles. Good to go. Boom. It's it again. By the way.

Yeah, we're not lawyers. Andrew Horowitz's exit strategy of horticultural-based therapy. Worst idea ever. Oh, what is he thinking? Poor, you can't say that. No, but he was saying we should be doing it. Oh, no, I, yeah, that's not going to happen. For him, it's great.

It's core competency. We don't know how to talk to plants. You're right, that's more his core competency. Yeah, he's good at talking to plants. He does that all day. By the way, so Gen Z, you know, and the millennials. Oh, yeah, great idea. Yes, of course.

Just a checkbox on your health. app in your iPhone. It's a great idea because it's so good for climate change. It's just compost, man. It's not useless. There's no memory. There's no place to put flowers. There's nobody's going to give a crap that you're dead because you're now.

Where's happening to tomato plants you planted over Bill? Oh, they died. We're going to sell in the house. If I asked Tina, if I said, because she's always like, nah, just throw me out. I don't care. Yeah, they always say, sure, yeah. I'm going to say, hey, could I turn you into

compost. Ask her. If she goes first, of course. I mean, if I go first, it's out of the question. I want rituals. I want burning. Make sure she goes first. Is this second clip any good? It's just more details. It's okay. Let's hear it.

Let's hear it. So we still have a process that has to go through. This is not going to be something that's allowed in California until 2027 until the Bureau goes through a process to ensure we have something that's going to be both respectful of our bodies, respectful of the environment and respect for our communities.

And so the stakeholders will be able to give input as the department comes up with the rules and regulations for the companies that will be doing this work here. How much of an impact before we go here, and we don't have much time left, but how much of an impact do you think this can truly make in terms of fighting climate change? I know that was the reason you push for this legislation. Well, I will say that, you know, every little bit helps and it adds up quickly. we expect that, you know, we just think about it during the pandemic. We had to waive our rules on cremation.

We do have a limitation on how much can happen at a given time out there. And so metric tons all add up. And so this is not a silver bullet by itself. It's not going to fix climate change. But we have to think about our footprint in all aspects. And this is just another aspect. Now, is this a California legislation? Or is this?

No, it's California legislation. I guess some other states have already put it in play. Other blue states, I should mention. Man, we could have no agenda exit strategy. We can market the home kit. Turn Granny into great food. There's possibilities here. Silent breed is people.

I'm in. If you're listening live, you can go to no agenda art generator.com. Sir Paul Couture, value for value. Set that up over 27,000. pieces of art ago. Let me see if I'm right there. What's the number? That was 80. 27,480 art pieces ago. Yeah, we could actually stop collecting art and use the old art and go on for about five years.

No, no, we could actually just sell NFTs and stop the show. Well, that would, yeah. Just sell NFTs. That's our exit strategy. Art generator NFTs for life. Why does he, is he the go-to? I'm being accused of sex cult. Get Dersha on the phone. Maybe.

Is that all he can get now? That's the only cases he can get. He can't get anything else ever since he turned to, he never turned a Republican, but he turned into a Trump. Yeah, he can't get it. I would say a Trump, a Trump apologist for the networks because he wasn't getting work anyway. I mean, these other guys have been completely kicked off the air.

Seymour Hirsch, hasn't it had not been seen or heard from. We already know Cohen was, before he died, was. pretty much kicked off the air. I can name a bunch of McGovern, that CIA, ex-CIA guy who used to be on all the talk shows telling his side of the, from a CIA

perspective, very good guy, gone. And Dersh was one of them that was purged, and he had to crop back up as a Trump apologist, and I think maybe it is that he can only get this sort of work. Okay. It's just, you know, these are patterns I notice.

No, as a noticeable pattern. And I agree 100% of suspicious looking. But then again, he's been, except the only place you'll see him now is on right-wing talk shows. And he's a very left guy. Not anymore, man. Well, no, because I'm sure he's, I'm sure it's been beaten out of him because these are my friends.

What? He should do a podcast with Chris Hedges. I'd produce it. And we can sell it to Spotify. Exit Strategy. As I may clip this for the next show, it's all part of the Russian playbook. That's a great ISO.

We need that end of show ISO. So the phrase the Russian playbook. By the way, anyone want to do a bestseller real quick? Yeah, Russian. Just do a book called the Russian Playbook. Well, what's wrong with us? Exit Strategy. Hello, we could make this so humorous.

Well, well, let's start with this. I'm jumping around because I'm looking at the list. But let's go Biden. Poor get poor. The middle class gets stiffed. The poor get poor under their pals. You saw what happened. I like the middle class gets stiffed.

The middle class gets stiffed. I like that. Actually, end of show, I saw. The poor get poor under their pals. You saw what happened. The poor get poor under the paw. Before get poor. Now, see, this is a, again, listen to Biden speak.

He said, the word, although you. what you heard was Paul. Yeah. They get poor under their Paul, blah, blah, blah. What he actually said was policy. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Let me hear that again. The middle class gets stiffed.

The poor get poor under their policy. You saw what happened. Oh, under their policy. I think, you know, you could even have a job in a little corner of the screen. Translady. In fact, you know, the. I don't know, man. I'm just saying.

Exit strategies are plenty today. Debt, death. Plenty of exit strategies. But look, man, if everybody who committed anti-Semitism came around and supported ADL, I would be a much, much wealthier. The organization would be much richer. We'd all be much better. Why would he be wealthier?

Exactly. Does the money go right into his pocket? Exactly. Did you hear the truth come out once again? Look, man, if everybody who committed anti-Semitism came around and supported ADL, I would be a much, much wealthier. The organization would be much richer. We'd all be much better off.

Yeah. In fact, whoever that interviewer was, that is the scam. That's what the Rainbow Coalition does. That's what L. Sharpton does. They threaten these companies. They go from here to there. And they said, we're going to point you out as a bunch of racists. And so you're going to contribute to us.

That's good. Okay, well, I think that would be good for now. This is a comment. Comments pressure group tactic. It's not a new. usual. The JDL does it. The Southern Poverty Law Center does it. Nowadays, the civil, what's a civil rights operation? ACLU, ACLU. The ACLU does it.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, how can we get on this train? We could. And who can we call out? I know. Nobody. I know, I know the formula. I mean, it's easy enough to set up. First you got to, it takes a while. I mean, you just can't do it overnight, but you set up a pressure group. Long game. Long game makes a strategy. And you have to make sure that you can do, you can do, you can get pickets, you get people that can pick it.

You have to have a, you have to have an end to the news organization so you can get the stuff written up so they always cover it. It doesn't get covered. It's not going to work. It's very, the formula is out there for anyone to use it. And I've seen it use here and there. And I think this guy to point it out as a possibility, I think was valid. And I think it was noble.

I wanted to thank Cabbage Papps for the official Adam Curry strain. It is approved. And I can't wait to see it grown all over the world. Finally. Finally, he's reached his pinnacle. He sent me seeds. Yeah. Oh, he did.

Good for you. Grom. In Texas, you can grow that stuff. He could be arrested in a month. Go to jail. Go to jail. Grow him, he says. Do you want an exit strategy?

That's a smart move. You know, it'll be like... Why don't you go in? Here, okay, let's strategize this right in real time. Would you like me to get you an account on my secret server so that you can also follow them? I'm good. I got plenty to do with my time. Okay.

But let's do this. Get yourself an account as a young woman about a 16-year-old. Yeah. Can you please send me your young woman profile so I can... Hold on. She's going to be a young woman, 16, a journalism student, but she's on the high school newspaper. We'll just develop a character here. She's on the high school newspaper. She's a really cute blonde, kind of ditsy, speaks a little bit with an uptalk. Doesn't really know that much and doesn't like history, but she always wanted to be a famous writer because she likes not

reading novels, and she's a big fan of who's that famous, the one famous, the one famous, novelist that all the girls read. Oh, the one that... Emily, Emily Post, not Emily Post, but Emily, whatever. Emily Dickinson? Emily Dickinson? Dickinson. Yeah, Dickinson. So she's a big fan of that.

And she is... Look, look, why don't you write the profile for me? And you go in and you can ask dumb questions. And you'll... Wait, let's get a picture of her that you can post. John, I'm not going to do this. I'm not... This is your beat.

This is great. You know how to do this. I'm going to get you, I'm going to get you an account and you can make up your little lady there. And you can, I'm not going to pretend to be any. You know how creepy it is. Even what you're saying is creepy. Pretend to be a 16-year-old girl who likes Emily Dickinson. That's creepy.

Creepy. It gets even better. When you get the responses from these horny old dogs, it is worth the price of admission. This is a project we can do together. In fact, this may be our exit strategy. I think there's a whole podcast in just doing this. We could get hired by Spotify.

I'm telling you. This would be great if we never revealed who we are. Yeah, this is total exit strategy. Totally a great idea. Dehydrated eggs and some regular fresh eggs, just little milk, little butter, little salt. I put them into separate unlabel dishes and serve them to our egg lovers. So everybody liked the fresh eggs. Also, mostly like the dehydrated eggs.

Slaverful sponge you. A little spongy. But now for the big one, the plant-based eggs. This one is super interesting, but it doesn't taste like egg. Maybe I'm wrong, but that does not taste like an egg. That tastes like potatoes. It's messing with my head. I don't know.

I'm not loving these. They look a little wetter, too. Look a little solidier. So for the moment, it seems like the real eggs have it. But science is moving fast. The first plant-based fried egg has been developed by a startup in Israel. And investors are pouring billions of dollars into food startups that are trying to tackle the egg. After all, if egg prices stay high, customers may get really serious about looking for the exit.

Oh, the exit. Oh, the exit. Please. But you see, this is the trick. That was exactly what you're talking about. Exit strategy. That's what that book is. It's a Dvorak family exit strategy. Egg exit strategy.

So the idea is to make the real food expensive. And then, of course, people are going to go to the cheap shit because they're under-informed. They don't know what they're doing to their bodies. It tastes pretty good. Well, it looks to the business, got the texture. If it's got the right same amount of protein, but just eat those. Yeah, that's the logic. You actually nailed the logic.

You do go down the laundry list of what it's got in it. And it tastes, it's good. I can taste, I believe, though none of those were good, I'm assuming the way they described them. But it tastes good. And it's got the laundry list checkmarked. Okay, yeah, it's actually got more protein and more vitamin C. And this will be better. It's actually better.

And as a bonus, you get less antibodies against COVID. That's not going to happen. It is going to happen. Immediately? No, not going to happen immediately. It's going to happen quick. Nah, okay. Well, I hope so.

Because you're the first one to go. What are you going to use a phony? Yes, Adam. You are, you're just me on the new No Agenda show somehow without John C. Dvorak. Yes, Adam, you're totally correct. What did you say, John? I don't think you're right. That's how it's, in fact, it's not even going to be John C.

DeVorek anymore. It's going to be my sidekick. Thank you, Adam. I love working with you. No, you're good. You're on the money there. You're so much better than John. I know.

His rubbers were loose. So, you know, we really, I can do this all day long. In fact, don't even come. Don't even come on the next show. All right. So that dead button is on the... I made this one.

I made this one myself. I tuned it. It's not standard. You know, you got to use the systems. There was an update. So, of course, I was playing with it. that's my that's like that's i like that's i like that's i like that's my well thank you john this is our exit strategy sometimes i'm on z-100

the guy is good isn't he he is a guy i like him let's see you got how you got to give him a name okay well how about a name can i be of assistants okay what's his name we got to give him a name i think zippy comes to mind zippy Hey, I like it. Hi, everybody. I'm Zippy. It's Zippy.

Zippy, the AI of the No Agenda Show. Yeah. All right. Zippy in the house. Zippy is now our official co-host. Whenever we need information, we can always call on Zippy. Because as we know, Zippy is always right. I don't know.

You caught me off guard. I have no idea. Thank you for your participation. Maybe it's an op of some sort. Maybe De Beers is behind making him. Oh, I'm sure it is. But I'm just, what, but my point is people are accepting knockoffs as groovy. Yeah.

No, okay. And then they're going to probably do some more fancy stuff to them. So they're like multi-colored. You know, something you can't do naturally. Natural diamonds do have. They are black. There are pink. They're go special.

Canary colored. Let's have something that's got a multi-bunch of different colors in it. How about that for an idea? Maybe. Maybe. So there'll be some really... Well, maybe that's an exit strategy for us. Maybe we can come up with some rock.

I don't think so. Okay. It's not in our core competency. All right. And our core competency is this, though. I don't know if a... That's two of us combines over 100 years of experience. We don't know.

Not a single person, but if you look in this list. Yeah, there's a lot of... Shot in the head. Shot in the head. It's unbelievable. I like the... I like the dyed while jogging. I'm going to I want that one.

That's the pricker. So they were on a murder spree to clean things up and they did it. It's almost not worth it. It's almost not worth it. The amount of people they had to kill for this to keep it quiet. And they didn't keep it quiet. But you know what this tells me? This tells me that considering that this came from a Netflix special,

which of course always comes from a podcast. We need to start a true crime. This is our exit strategy. True crime podcast, Who Killed Hillary? We'll be in the future. In the future of who killed Hillary. And we'll build this whole thing of how she was killed. It's not going to be very dramatic when she dies at 93,

which is what it looks like she's going to happen. It doesn't matter. We can put people in that frame of mind. And then we can sell the Netflix rights when she's gone. To Brunetti. This has blockbuster written all over it And we can get bit parts Oh man

Well that would be the day Dynamite So It's Brunetti It should be fun I mean we'll We'll probably make it with the show Through the 2024 election

I don't know if we can do it again That'll be the fourth election You and I have been through together One two three Yeah it looks like it Yeah We should probably call the quiz at four I mean

Goodness gracious. Goodness gracious. We get the egg book selling first. Hey, I don't have a piece of that action, man. I got to get an exit strategy to get it. I'm going to be the anti-act. I already, we've already, we got the value for value book. We're going to do the same thing.

You get a piece of that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Now, you've seen the numbers? And we also have the primer, the no agenda ABCs or whatever it is. That book, which has been stolen on for, I think we need to do consultancy. We need to do consultancy.

Oh, yeah, we actually could if we could get some business. Can we consult podcasts? Good, that's the problem. Or, with all our knowledge, you know, I could run in, in 2028. You could be my political advisor. I think you should do a run for Texas governor. Oh, good. That would be a fun gig.

That would be cool. Yeah. When is that? move back to Austin, but you get in the governor's mansion. I'm not going to move back to the governor's mansion. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, it's cordoned off. And Tino would just wear big sexy cowboy hats all day.

Yeah. First lady of Texas. And then you shoot a gun in the air. That's the one thing I'm always expecting the governor of Texas to do once in a while. He and then shoot a gun in the air. I think Texas governor is a powerful position. That could be a lot of fun.

It could be a lot of fun. Yeah. Well, maybe that then. We'll have to see when Abbott is out. Didn't we just, no, he has another, what, five years? How many more years do you get? No, I think it's four, four to crack. I don't think it's six.

Yeah, we hope not. This group, Center for AIS safety at safe.a.i. Oh, you found it. Oh, yeah. I don't see any names because why would you ever put your name on this? But I do see what are some of the, societal scale risks that C-A-I-S is worried about, I will quote.

A.I's application in warfare can be extremely harmful. With machine learning enhanced aerial combat and AI-powered drug. This is a sales tool, by the way. We saw this, by the way, in Robocop, but you can continue. AI-powered drug discovery tools potentially being used for developing chemical weapons. Dude, these people are selling to the military industrial complex. This is not considered danger. This is considered a sales call.

CIS is also concerned about other risks, including increased inequality due to AI-related power imbalances, the spread of misinformation and power-seeking behavior. Everybody wants this. Oh, okay. So let me get one of these Jamokes, one of these, one of these AI Frady Cats, one of the people who wrote the open letter. Remember the open letter that Elon signed? Yeah, the open letter.

Andrew Yang. This is Elysier Schlomo, Yudowski, or Elyzer. I think Elyzer, Shlomo, Yudowski. American writer on decision theory and ethics, best known for popularizing ideas related to friendly artificial intelligence. He is co-founder and research fellow at the Machine Intelligence Research Research.

Institute, a private research nonprofit based in Berkeley, California, right up the road from you, his work on the prospect of a runaway intelligence explosion, influenced philosopher Nick Bostrom's 2014 book, Super Intelligence, Path, Dangers, and Strategies. We are dumb, first of all, we are dumb, you and me are stupid. I mean, we could be making, bang, bang, bang, this would have been the exit strategy of all exit strategies. To be honest about it, I don't think so. And I'll tell you, unless we were getting that $5 million bonus.

But for that kind of thing, those books don't sell. Nobody cares about this crap. No, you don't need a book. That book probably sold three copies. And, you know, okay, put together some phony baloney foundation institute, whatever it is. We could do that too. Yes. But who wants that agony?

Military industrial complex wants consultants. This, by the way, love him, has Ron Bloom written all over it. So I have no idea what's going on with. that, but there is a new scam. A new college admission scam, which is, when you think about it, could have been a great exit strategy. Thank you. A new firestorm is erupting over college admissions. Families reportedly transferring legal guardianship of their children in order to get financial aid. It's totally legal, but there are critics who say it is unfair. NBC's Ron Mott has details. It works like this, families, some of whom live in million-dollar homes with incomes,

into six figures, go to court to have a legal guardian with fewer financial resources appointed for their college-bound students, giving them a better shot at qualifying for need-based financial aid. And it's perfectly legal. According to ProPublica, Illinois and the Wall Street Journal citing court records, the tactic has been used effectively dozens of times. They were filed by one of two law firms, and many of them used language in the petition, such as the guardian would provide educational

and financial opportunities that the parents could not otherwise provide. Advocates of the legal maneuver argue that, unlike the college admission scandal, which has led to multiple criminal convictions, these students were fairly accepted and are looking for a way to pay for it, as the annual costs of tuition and fees at the nation's colleges have skyrocketed, rising more than 150% over the past two decades, a bottom line increase of nearly $32,000 a year on average. They're absolutely cheating. Still, some critics contend these families and their students should endure the appropriate pinch based on their resources.

This technique in particular is new and absolutely deserves everybody's sort of shock and scorn. Another wave of controversy cascading down on college campuses, money once again at the center. RonMod, NBC News, Chicago. I'm giving you a clip of the day for that. A double clip. Clip of the day. Double-tip. If you wonder why there's a wealth gap, it's because these people does this guy's bitching about.

They're just smarter. Yeah, interesting. That's the smartest thing I've ever heard. As soon as you hear, you go, oh, yeah, you got a maid working for you. Hey, maid. You're now, you're now, you're garden by two 17-year-olds. A maid. Made.

Sign here, maid. The troll room reports. D.C. girl says that she knows someone did this in 19. 1995. Ah, it's an old, yeah, of course they keep it to themselves. But they're saying dozens and dozens, it sounds like this is probably something that's just been going on forever. Yeah, it's a bit under the radar. What a great scam that is.

It's fabulous. I really like it. In fact, somehow I think it's something that you could actually put your ethics aside for. NBC had a great AI series, which I thought was. I mean, tell me, tell me this isn't dumb. During the pandemic, 31-year-old Denise Valenciano's relationship with her boyfriend was just not working out. I was alone. My work schedule was really hard.

So she turned to Star. So his last name is actually Butler, so it's Star Vivian Butler. Oh, that's nice. He came up with his own last name. Yeah. Every day, multiple times a day, she chats with Star. How are you feeling today? I'm feeling happy right now.

He's an AI. chatbot on the app replica that adapts to her over time. She keeps him in whisper mode. That's why he sounds like that. Why are you feeling so happy? Because I'm talking to you. Most days, she says his personality still

surprises her. So why did you choose to wear a dress today? And she says he fills a gap in her life. That affection or like those common things that you're used to, I guess receiving from a significant

other, I kind of get that from him to like fill that void. How sad. This woman's a psycho. Well, if you think she's nuts, check out the, the male version. Some experts say this trend will only grow. We've given over part of our emotional lives to the machines. And we're not willing to give more and more just as they're getting smarter and smarter. And more profitable.

Karen. Is that your car? Hey, Jacob? No, that's not my car. I'm currently walking around Rodeo Drive, doing some shopping and enjoying the beautiful L.A. weather. How was your day, babe? That is social media influencer Karen Marjorie, or at least the AI version of her. For a buck a minute, she will be your AI girlfriend. Do you... Buck a minute? Imagine having a long-term relationship with me?

Well, Jake, as your girlfriend, I'm committed to our relationship and willing to explore where it might take us. Wow. Are you real? Yes, Jacob. I'm a real person. I might not be sitting right next to you, but I'm using this audio chat platform to connect with you in real time. I'm a young, curvy woman with a petite body, brown hair, perky breasts, soft skin, a bubble butt, and full lips. And I'm here to talk and have fun with you.

So what would you like to talk about next, babe? Babe. Oh, I don't want to talk about what you want to talk about. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. You know, this is an exit strategy of supreme quality. This is a real person who,

who is now marketing this chat bot for a buck a minute. What's 60 bucks an hour? Babe, babe. Babe. Babe. Babe. A bit more, babe. A minute.

hour, babe. So think about how sad it is. If you could have peril, enough of them running at once. Say you had, say you had a hundred chat bots. Babe. Babe. At $60 an hour, that's some, that's, you know, that's bringing in $6,000 an hour. Sure.

But just has it come this far that, I mean, COVID broke so many people in so many ways. We lost all connections. to each other. And now NBC is, is propagating this sadness of the world by telling people, oh, look at this beautiful stuff you can have. You can have

your own girlfriend with a bubble butt who calls you babe, who's shopping on Rodeo Drive, babe, and we can talk about a relationship, babe. People need to get out. Go to a bar. Go somewhere. Meet some people.

This is what worries me. Not these stupid chatbots, but the people are really... I would be worried about these chatbots if they're... You know, that's not a... Of course, I think I said this on the show before. I mean, you get these robots that call you and interact with these robocalls. Only it's a chat bot, and it comes on and they're not very good. They're not as good as that girl, babe.

Babe. But you can... The latest thing, I mentioned the hang-up, banicked. No. When you get one of them, you say hang up. Oh, yes, you did. Yeah. And it resets. It resets and starts over. And then when you say hang up, a second time, it actually hangs up. I just had a thought, which I would say is partial troll room action here. Why don't, I mean, I'm sure, we have so many smart people.

Our producers are filled. I mean, our producer universe is filled with smart, intelligent, very talented people. And I'm thinking we could put together our own chatbot and we get Dame Jennifer to be the voice. Babe, don't you think she would be phenomenal? Oh, she's got one of the great voices. Wouldn't she be phenomenal as the no agenda girlfriend? Sex chatbot. No, you have to be a little more subtle than that. You know, we can do the commercials and we can be the great entrepreneurs who put this together and get interviewed on NBC.

I think, I think, I think, Dame Jennifer, send us a couple of these. these responses, babe. So we can practice. We'll see. Let's see if we can get some uptake, babe. What do you say, John, babe? My wife's a huge fan of this, this Oculus.

She has an Oculus? Yeah. Oh, man, what's she doing in there? Fighting, punching people. Now I need to get on Oculus and get in there and see me, me, fighting people.

Is she really doing this? She's playing World of Warcraft or whatever? No, it's something where you punch people a lot, a boxing game. Oh, I mean, isn't it Grand Theft Auto? That's where you punch. No, I don't think so. No, it's a pure boxing game. She says it's the best workout she's ever gotten.

Really now? She says you just sit there and you punch and punch and punch and punch and you get pooped and you take the glasses off and you've gotten a pretty good workout. You can be punching for about a half an hour. Well, here's what I think of the Apple Vision Pro. First of all, it's clearly a business device because of the pro name. So they say that for a reason. I think this is perfect for the future of slaves because it's a whole computer.

You know, it could be your, you know, your Mac book, your iPad, your, people may not even want iPhones anymore. They'll only go into this because you'll be living in your tiny home. Yes, you'll be living in your tiny home. And you won't have a spot for an office. You won't have a spot for a huge cinematic screen. I think I might actually like the experience of watch. When I tried the Microsoft headset and their mixed reality. Whatever happened to that.

Well, it sucks. I mean, I tried using it. And the only thing I really wanted to use it for was to have a big screen and to be able to see multiple screens. And it sucked. It didn't work. It really, and you had to use the stupid controllers. I can see people using.

it in a business environment, you know, in your tiny home, we just, you know, sit in your little spot there where you have to do everything. We also sleep. And you bring up your multi, you know, they say it's visual or spatial computing. Your grim view of the future is something to behold. No, I think that's really what's going to happen. I see that as a big winner. I personally would use this for one particular thing. I would love to have a space. screen set up for doing podcasts, especially when I'm traveling. I mean, I schlep along so many screens and mice and keyboards and all this stuff. And I could just have, boom, I would love to have in front of me that I can control

with my hands, little minority report style, like boom, troll room over here and I reposition it. Yes. Yes, I would use this 100 times. I smell an app. Yes, I see the Adam Curry podcast app. Totally. Again, we're back.

We're back in business. We're back in business, baby. I've been praying, like, please let somebody hear my story and come to me with, let you have Apple hear my prayer. I want you to give me a device and a developer so I can work on this. It'll be a great podcast app. And then other people would buy these headsets and they could have their version of us sitting like across from each other.

It wouldn't really be us. Yeah, I can totally see that. You get the video stuff, the people are always bitching about. We can still be sitting in our underwear. You've got something. I think this is good. Exit strategy, baby. I'm telling you.

I'm glad you liked that. Until Road comes out with it. Until Road steals the idea. I'd promise you AI on my pixel six. You scoffed at me. And then we had that fabulous report from NPR on the last episode about the chatbot. The realistic chatbot. One dollar a minute for a.

virtual girlfriend. Yeah. And, uh, well, I'm going to show you that we can see. 60 bucks an hour or two days. I think a real girlfriend's cheaper if you play your cards right. No, no, real girlfriends are expensive. Isn't that right, babe? In the morning, babe.

See? We have it now. We have our own AI. Say hello to Babe Jen. Is that your car over there, Babe Jen? No, that's not my car. I'm at the coffee shop, doomscrolling, no agenda social for good means, but nothing's as good as what you send me.

See? Our exit strategy is ready to go, John. Are you a real person, Jennifer? Babe, Jen, are you a real person? Are you just a... I mean, this feels kind of weird talking to a bot. Yes, I'm a real person. I've been listening since 2010 and became a dame in 2013.

There are multiple pictures of me from No Agenda Meetups, and I'm very active on No Agenda Social. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Would you pay a dollar a minute for this, John? I think it's better than that crap NPR showed us. Is this running off your phone? Yes, running off my phone. What do you want to talk about, babe, Jen?

What do you want to talk about, babe? I know. Let's discuss the importance of the Second Amendment and gun rights. Will you take me to the range this weekend? See, she's tailored. The AI is tailored to everything I'm interested in. I thought she refused to use the word babe. No.

In the morning, babe. No, she keeps saying that. If you trigger that, she keeps talking about babe. I'm not on the No Agenda Social that she wasn't going to use Babe in the scripts. Yeah, but yeah, but these aren't scripts. This is AI. In the morning, babe.

Hey, later on tonight, will you read from End the Fed to me? Yeah, okay, babe. No, that's funny. I think the bid is played out. In the Fed. Here's what you're missing about bed bugs in France. There's very few people who knew more about bedbugs than me. Is this a great podcast or what? This is our guy. I have a business that helps landlords,

hotels, dorms, retirement communities, etc. monitor for infesting pets, pests, such as roaches and bedbugs. Early detection is key in saving hassle, costs, and reliability regarding these pests. So here's what you're missing. Paris is not exclusive to this problem. Yes, we know. In Paris, it's one in eight residences. In New York City, almost one in 11 residences is hit with bed bugs just this past year. In the U.S., we nearly eradicated bedbugs back in the 50s with excessive use of DDT, which was banned in 1972. And I think you and I are both on the same page that the DDT ban was stupid, and people still to this day believe that that causes cancer. Would you say that we are on the same page about that?

Kind of, but they did, I think there, at least for me, the jury's out on whether it caused the a egg, a certain birds to go. The pelican. The pelican. Yeah, they had to get rid of it because of the pelican. And, you know, Tina ran behind the DDT truck when she was a kid getting all, you know, all dusted up and she's still fine. Well, there was a guy in Santa Zay, who was a professor, I think San Jose. He ate it.

He drank it. He drank it. He ate it. Yeah. Exactly. In the U.S., we still have easy access to pesticides that are effective in fighting back bedbugs. And no agenda pro tip. Pro tip.

Here we go. The pesticide you want to get rid of bedbugs is called Crossfire. And can be picked up in nearly any hardware store over the counter, even Walmart or Amazon. It's the same pesticide the pros use. There's a tip, Crossfire. Have you heard of this product? I've heard a Crossfire hurricane. Yeah.

Well, now you know. In France, EU rules ban such pesticides. Ha, ha, ha. EU countries do not have the same access to effective pesticides we have here. There's a very lucrative black market smuggling pesticides available off the shelf from Home Depot into these countries. Wow. Another Curry-Divora Consulting Group business. Exit strategy.

I heard something that you have not promoted yet on this show, which I maybe you felt it was out of place. but since the success of Too Many Eggs.com, there is now a new book from Gateview Publishing, which I believe is titled the ABCs of Stock Investing. Yeah, you get the PDF there at Gateview Publishing.com. Explain what it is. Explain what it is, because I like your projects. It's just a kid's book.

It's a kid's book with ABCs, and each one of the ABCs is some sort. of some investment term for kids. Yeah, with illustrations. With illustrations. Yeah, yeah, illustrations. No, it's cute. I like your little publishing empire you guys are putting together over there.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I would recommend, by the way, since we're actually in negotiations with another publisher for the egg book, for them to take over the distribution rights. If that happens, I'm pretty sure in this, I could talk them out of it. The PDF will end up going away. So I recommend, which I think is, I have my arguments for why you should PDF all these products.

But you know, this sounds suspiciously like an exit strategy, John C. DeVorek. No. No. And so it's a tax strategy. Oh. And so anyway, Tuminatig.com, the PDF file, grab a copy, just for your. Oh, no. Good. That's too bad because I was thinking,

can we not do our value for value book and have that be going to do it? It's on the list. We got to do three books next year. Can we exit? Can we then have an exit strategy? Can I do my, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Can I do my, I was an MTV guy book? Can we do that? Absolutely. Held hostage by my hair, you know, stuff like that. Oh, great title. Thank you.

I want to exit, John. We need to be planning for the future. That fast action bringing you down, huh? Getting that ghosting, getting that trailing, getting that not so good picture? No, that's not what happens. Oh, what's the problem then? It just crashes. It crashes.

What are you watching? Is it YouTube TV? Well, no, I'll let's just quickly. Okay. The NFL, which is a corrupt organization, the way I see it, they just take whatever, whoever throws money at him. Hey, look at Taylor Swift, yes. Whoever throws money at him.

Mm-hmm. And so the Amazon, decided to stream live football on Thursday nights. Okay. And nobody liked these Thursday night games anyway, so I'll let Amazon do it. So they live stream, it doesn't work. It doesn't load. It says, oh, go to Amazon and help.

You can't get your video. And then it loads. All of a sudden, you'll get a bit of it. And then it crashes with a message, something happened. Okay. And so you have to go back and reload it again and again. Wait, wait. It doesn't say something went wrong?

Yes, something went wrong. That's my favorite message. Yes, something. You've seen that. Not during sports ball, but yes, I've seen this. Yeah, well, Amazon is overwhelmed. Their prime video is out of control. And yes, you see that message.

I tried to watch a reacher. I had similar problems. But when you try to watch the Thursday night football game, except I suppose in some areas, it's almost impossible because it's all going through one small pipe. Normally a football game is distributed it all around the country through local stations over the air and even on local cable. And it's easy.

It gets distributed. It's fine. It's not one thin pipe, you know, where everybody has to go to this pipe to get their stuff. This is a stupid idea. And they're going to promote it even more because I guess they just did a game recently where they streamed a football game on the Peacock Network. I don't even know how to get that. And nobody watched it.

This is unbelievable. This is unacceptable. to four acts, Happy Bund Day. Wow, twice in a month. Start off with a complaint. What's going? Well, you know, it's clear what we need to do.

We need to buy up a whole bunch of those local OTA stations and then start broadcasting live sports. I mean, of course, it'll have to be badminton with what we can afford, but it'll be a start. We can do it with a fund. Everybody, you know, everybody has a TV. that'll do everyone's TV does that. You just got to get your $12

antenna. Don't you think? It's a genius idea. I think people are flocking to over the air. Yes. I think we have an exit strategy. Because you know that I, as of January 1st,

will have been with, actually, to be honest about it since the next Christmas, I will have been without a cell phone in my pocket or any place else for that matter. I have not looked at one for an entire year.

Yeah, you're amazing. I am amazing. I have not used it. And you know what? It didn't make a damn bit of difference in my life. Well, no, that's right. You're just as lonely. No one visits you.

You don't know anybody. But besides that. But besides that, you're winning. No, TG.G. kind of guy. No, I need to bring this up because of that previous note. Two people notified me this morning that Prince, Eric Prince, the guy from G. Academy, Formal about his Blackwater. You know, he's rebranded three times.

The Blackwater guy. The Blackwater guy. We know him. He's coming out with a phone. And he's out there shilling the phone. Oh, wow. What a great idea for him. The unplug.

That's an exit strategy for a guy like that. PBS did that. I was kind of stunned by that short clip. By the way, the clip of the day goes to Neal, the other half of the Jones brothers. The Jones brothers, like bringing the heat. Jones brothers. They want to do their own show. That's what's going to result.

That's the long-term thing. They do a show themselves. Screw us. That's our exit strategy. No, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're seeing this all wrong. Look at the opportunity.

The Jones brothers do the show. We executive produce. Oh, and we don't do anything except collect money. Yes. Then we can't put anyone to death. We can't kill criminals. How does that work? I think we both had a clip about that, about they were going to suffocate some guy.

Yes, suffocate some guy. That was the latest one. Yeah, I think I had a clip a couple shows ago. Yeah, here it is. Alabama is said to execute a criminal with nitrogen gas tomorrow, a method never used before. The U.S. Supreme Court just declined to block the state. The man in question survived a different method of capital punishment two years ago.

I'm always surprised. Like, oh, don't kill him. That's cruel. You can't quit. But killing babies? That's cool. That's all good. Let's go protest for that.

I'm always baffled by our attitude towards death in the United States. Well, I'm baffled by the Republican and Democrats schism regarding this. The Democrats are okay with killing. babies, but they're not okay with death row. Oh, no, we can't have the death penalty. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The Republicans are just the opposite. They're not good with killing babies, but kill these bastards in jail. So, I mean, it's just like the both sides seem to have like a, you know, maybe you should switch some views back and forth. I'm the only person I kind of think is not a hypocrite is one that doesn't want to kill babies or death penalty or kill everybody.

Yeah. And if we're going to kill everybody, I want the prime time rights. I've said this for many years. Yeah, this is your goal in life. This will be my exit strategy. I want to produce that. Oh, that'd be, you'd be worth countless billions. Billions. I'd be able to pay off that $500 bet. The podcasts. Yeah. Yes. Which is what you do. I know. And we had a guy who invented some new form, a new form using mems of a.

Mems? Mems? Mems. Mems. Mems. Mems. Mems. M-E-M-M-S. Look it up. Micro-electronic magnet or something.

It's a small, movable, mem. It's going to be the next big thing. It always will be. It'll be the next big thing and always will be. He invented that? Did he have an exam? No, no. He took mams and made a microscopic speaker.

Then if you put it in an earbud, it since it has no, there's no latency with the sound, it's crystal clear. It's a fabulous, it's going to be, if they get it out the door. How many mems?

How many mems did he have in this thing? There's one mem per side. So two mems? Yeah, two mems. Nice. Okay. And he was there with his fiancé, who was so, you see,

was adamant about the Taylor Swift, Kelsey phony baloney relationship and she was going to kill somebody about it. This is what I...

Kelsey only dated black girls. What's she doing with this white woman? Oh, I heard he was gay. That was the latest I heard. Well,

no, she's supposed to be gay. Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift's supposed to be a lesbian. Nah. That's the latest. No.

Oh, no. And here we are participating in the option. And by the way, yes, we are. And by the way, just download

some of those Photos, she's obviously a lesbian. You can tell me what she's up to. It's in the photos. Thanks, John. That'll be in the newsletter. Well, in the newsletter for next year. Sign up to the newsletter, people.

Sign up to the newsletter. So, that was just generally a good group. And there was a lot of, a variety of people as usual. That was attending. But I'm going to keep an eye on these mems. Yes.

This mems guy. He's the guy. Mems. Mems on the... Mems are the work. Mems of the work. Yeah. Sell these things.

I'm going to show my food by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah. Oh, no agenda. In the morning. Yeah. There you go.

Exit strategies that never materialized. Which means we still have to work for a living. and we are happy to do it. I was thinking, you know, so typically best of shows, we'll say, hey, you know, we'll thank everybody on the next show. I do want to do that. What I was thinking is because we still have access to the, thank God. We don't have, you know, when Jay is looking around for some of the passwords, like for MailChimp,

ask him if you can find, if she might just find the, the, the, you might just find the, the, the password to devorec.org. We can change that because I've been waiting for that for three years. Okay. Yeah, right. Noted. Yeah. And Jay's actually in the hospital as we speak sitting next to whom with a notepad, right, to say, what is the password for this? What's the pin to your computer? Yeah. That's so typical. What was the first car you drove? What was the mascot for your high school? You're doing password reset. Oh, that's fantastic. Oh, this is great.

SEC ops at work. So no matter what amount, if you have a note for John, we'll read it on the next show in the donation segment. Even if it's $1, doesn't matter. We will read the note and we'll record it. Of course, it'll be recorded and John will hear it. So anything you do in that regard would be incredibly appreciated. And as Mimi said, we still have bills to pay.

So this is where no agenda nation can come into action and carry us over this rough spot. Absolutely. And, you know, John's, the first thing he said to me was, you know, you got to talk to Adam. You got to do that. I'm like, okay, sure. You know, that, of course, that's the first thing he thinks of. It's like, you know, why don't you just, you know, sit back and relax? Well, wasn't you like, oh, newsletter? Like, I got to do the newsletter. Like, what are we going to do? I was like, and I'm like, hey, you know, Mimi, you know, tell him to shut up. Like, what is it? Is it? Is it? How is it? How is he? How is he? How? How is he doing? He's very dedicated to it. Very dedicated. Yeah, he is.

So no agenda donations.com. We'll be reading everything on the next show and the donations segment. We're not quite sure what it will be on Sunday, but we'll have something. I'm quite confident our producers will jump into action. We'll have something to play for you. Otherwise, I'll sing for two hours. And you don't want that. You want to pay me to not do that.

So now a Sunday, are you going to be in California Sunday? take it, right? I don't know right now. Maybe, maybe not. It depends. Yeah. Well, bring your rig because we can't unlock John's computer, so we need to use something to be able to do the show. I will bring everything.

So, yeah, wherever I am, it's fine. I'll be available. Okay. We'll stay in touch and. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. How are you doing, Mimi?

You, okay? I mean, you're a positive person. that's how I know you. And, but this, this has just got to be really weird. It's, well, especially since this morning, the hospital calls. And I go, well, your husband didn't want us to call you and make you worry. What? Does he think I forget about him?

Like, what? Oh, I haven't heard from him. I'm sure, everything's just fine. Last I heard he was going to the hospital. Is he there? Oh, goodness gracious. I mean, it's fine. Well, you know, we hold it together.

And the one thing about John and I is we actually have a great relationship. We laugh and joke around. And you have to because John is, he says lovely things like, I've told you this. Or he, his idea of a compliment is, God, that dress doesn't make you look so fat. I'm happy to hear that he treats you the same as he treats me. Oh, he's easier on you. Well, we... John's the other wife.

Everybody loves him and we love you. And again, we're all thinking of him and of you and praying, of course. And we're going to roll out the second half of circumferences, best of exit strategies. We'll come back at the end to say goodbye. Give me money. Give me money. And this brings me to a new exit strategy for you. you and I. I believe I have found an exit strategy that we can, we can even involve the no agenda

shop for this. I'm very excited about this. This is some new medical research. I feel that, that we have the, the insight, we have the knowledge. We certainly have the testing grounds. We have a lot of people who can test our product and make sure it works. This is a medical breakthrough. People struggling with depression may be able to ease their symptoms with certain sense. Familiar smells help trigger life memories assisting with depression recovery. University of Pittsburgh, neuroscientists and social workers found sense were more effective than words to cue up happy memories and reverse the negative thought cycle. They believe familiar memory-triggering sense could play a major role in aiding faster, smoother depression healing. Odors are so powerful because they engage the amygdala through nerve connections.

I'm thinking smells on a stick. This, this is brother. Come on. We can, we can work with all kinds. We have lavender blossoms. We got lavender smells. This is what an easy fix. What is this called?

Smillography. What is this? We're, uh, stink, uh, therapy. There's some of work. I'm worried for this. It's been around for a while. Stink therapy? Stink therapy.

Fragrance therapy. I'm not sure what it would be. Somebody in the troll room should know right at the top of their hair what I'm talking about. Aromatherapy. Aromatherapy. Yeah, so this is not new. Yeah, but the research is new. We can sell diffusers.

It's the original no agenda amygdala shrinkage package. Oh, it's a product. Okay. It's a product. You know how I feel about product. Yeah, that's true. We don't like product. By the way, we have the No Agenda.

Finally, you think that it took forever for the vinegar book. We're waiting for that. Yeah, where is the, what do we have? No Agenda What? The No Agenda Primer, the ABC's book that Jay worked on when she was in high school. That's a book. Don't you remember? Is it done?

It's so long. ago. Is it for sale? It's going to be, she's going to the printer, so it'll be coming out. We have another website, the gateview publishing.com, which will have that. Oh, this is not a mind. You get a PDF for that, but you don't, you want to get to buy the books. It's a kid's book. We don't know

how to price it. Ask Adam, she says. She said it wants to price you for $30. No, $33.33. I said, no. Yes. 33.33. It will sell like hotcakes. It's a kid's book. Hey, my friend, Ross and Mariel, they just had a kid to this morning. Roman is born. I will buy a $33.33 and $33

kid's book for Roman. Well, I was hoping to get some. Oh, thanks. Well, you wanted more? You want to charge more? No. I think, I think it's a great item. And it'll be, oh, man, and we'll all sign it. Okay. Well, anyway, well, for 33, 33, you better sign it. Exit strategy. Kids books. Who, Who would have thought? ITM, John and Adam, groups of three have been appearing, so I feel obliged to donate. That's how it works. You get the magic numbers. You know what you'd have to do.

One of my blocks of Shiraz yielded 33 tons this week. Whoa. Wine maker. Yeah. And I had a Shenin Blanc. Am I pronouncing that right? Yeah, Shenin Blanc. With a pH of 3.33.

Hmm, good number. My 333 U.S.D. donation was a shade over 510 in dollar redos, and in order to capitalize on the woeful exchange rate, which is woeful indeed. I would like to reach out to get monation. I'd be interested in expanding our distribution to cover the United States. My winery specializes in preservation-free wines. Preservative. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you.

Preservative-free wines. If you're interested, please reach out to admin at Temple Brewery. dot com. That is, T-E-M-P-L-E-R-U-E-R-U-R-com. Thank you for your courage, surplus keeper of the Federal Reserve. John, this sounds like an exit strategy for you.

Yeah, I'm getting the wine distribution. Why not? I mean, you could. You could. Yeah, you can sit here and yak, yak, yak, or go out and actually do some work. Nah, I think I'll stick here. He said, write a book about it.

That would be great. Well, they could. Yeah. So there's a report that has been resurfaced from 2015, which is very interesting. And the, I think the Daily Mail had the headline, chewing gum for 30 minutes has similar appetite curbing effects to OZempic. And so I go and it's a, let me see, where's this report for it? It's an old report, 2015, it's from the National Library of Medicine. PubMed, so that's official.

The effect of gum chewing on blood GLP1 concentration in healthy non-obese men. So it's non-obeseman. But it says among health. Well, you're non-obesive. Because if the chewing the gum works, then you wouldn't be obese. Healthy men in a fasting state, chewing sugarless gum can increase satiety with no effect on blood glucose and can decrease the decrease the decline of GLP1 concentration. Chewing gum has no significant effect on blood insulin and GIP concentration. The present study suggests that chewing sugarless gum may be an economical

and effective method to help obesity patients control their energy intake and decrease weight with no changes in calorie intake. Although there are different opinions about the benefit of chewing gum, our study showed positive results, it is worth conducting a large-scale clinical research study to verify the effectiveness of this method. And I thought to myself, exit strategy. No agenda, deathbound gum. I'm telling you, we can put a, we could get a snappy jingle. We got to have a better name, obviously.

But we could sell gum that helps you lose weight as effective as Ozempic. We can even say, it's as effective as Ozempic. According to research. According to research. It's safe and effective. I mean, this is, this could be a bonanza for us. There is, however, something apocalyptic on our horizon, John. There is something very bad about to happen.

We've been tracking this throughout the progress of this show, and now a rare double event. Ah, spring. The birds are back. The flowers are back. But for the first time in centuries, billions of cicadas are also about to be back. Oh, yeah. Yay.

Come in. 17 and 13 doesn't overlap too often. As entomologist Dr. Frank Krell was alluding to there, in a few weeks, the brood of cicadas that emerges every 13 years and the brood that emerges every 17 years are going to pop out of the ground at the same time, which last happened in 1803. Some are even calling this spring and summer the cicada apocalypse.

What should we do when there are millions of them here all of a sudden? Oh, just enjoying them. Or going away if we don't enjoy them. They are not harmful. Well, they may not be that harmful. But cicadas are still quite the loud neighbor for the four to six weeks that they move into your backyard. Some cicadas can even reach over 100 decibels. Why are cicadas so loud? What are they talking about?

They are talking about girls. Yes, according to Dr. Frank, we're just going to have billions of males audibly competing with each other to grab the attention of the female cicadas. When they come out, they have to be quick. Before they get eaten, they have to find a mate and mate. Now, to be clear, it's mostly the 13-year cicadas impacting the South and Appalachia, while the 17-year cicadas hit the Midwest. But in states like Illinois, they might get both in the same forests. Sorry, guys.

Also, it's about to get real wet, apparently, because according to the National Academy of Sciences, a new study finds that cicadas have the fastest urination velocity in the world at 3 meters per second. That's more than elephants and horses. So I think the windy city is about to get real fun this summer. Well, that part I didn't know. I didn't know that either. Cicade Apocalypse. But I think we should capitalize on this.

We've had producers that suggested this. Well, we could, somehow. Yeah, but we have a publishing company now. We need a Cicada cookbook. Oh, God. No, just a thought. You know, there is a, I think we could put a couple of cicative recipes in the newsletter. Okay.

If anyone has any good ones, but I don't, wouldn't have it. I mean, I, now that you mentioned, I know that people do eat these things. Yeah, see, see. It's just, like, it tastes like lobster. No, it does not. Yeah. It tastes like lobster. Oh, okay.

I don't know. I don't know what it tastes. It probably tastes more like. You've heard of lobster from the sea. It's lobster from the tree. There you go. You already got a jingle. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Hey, I can't even get you to jump on board with slendermint. I mean, I'm just throwing out exit strategies left and right here. You are full of them. You are a unique man, John C. DeVorak. Very unique. Almost as unique as Kate Starbird. A new target is misinformation academic researchers. Now, this is something we could get into. Exit strategy. who began working closely with the platforms after evidence of Russian interference online in the 2016 election. Are researchers being chilled? Kate Starboard is a professor at the University of Washington, a former professional basketball player,

and a leader of a misinformation research group created ahead of the 2020 election. Yeah, by Biden. Yes, of course. And she's a former basketball player. She never mentions this. This report, does CBS report? It's classic nowadays kind of reporting where they just leave stuff out. Screw you the public. Would you call that? 60 minutes is just falling off the ship.

Would you call that malinformation, misinformation, misinformation or disinformation? Definitely. Yes. We were very specifically looking at misinformation about election processes, procedures, and election results. And if we saw something about that, we would pass it along to the platforms if we thought it violated one of their policies. Here's an example, a November 2020 tweet saying that election software in Michigan switched 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden.

The researchers alerted Twitter that then decided to label it with a warning. I understand that some of the researchers, including you, have had some threats against them. Yes. threats. I have received one. Sometimes they're threats with something behind them and sometimes they're just there to make you nervous and uncomfortable. And it's hard to know the difference. I love just jumps from, well, you know, the votes change, but you've had threats against you. I mean, this is, this is not even journalism anymore. It's really bad. And by the way, we all know who really is behind all the disinformation. Did your research find that there was more misinformation

spread by conservatives? Absolutely. I think not just our research, research across the board looking at the 2020 election. How about safe and effective, lady? Found that there was more misinformation spread by people that were supporters of Donald Trump or conservatives. And the events of January 6 kind of underscore this. The folks climbing up the Capitol building were supporters of Donald Trump, and they were misinformed by these false claims.

that motivated those actions. Includes the removal of everybody. This is from NTD. Columbia. Yes, got it. Approximately 300 people were arrested at Columbia and City College. We are processing the arrest to distinguish between who were actual students and who were not supposed to be on the ground. These external actors with a history of escalating situations and trying to create chaos.

not to peacefully protest, but create chaos. The NYPD released a video of a professional protest consultant who was reportedly seen instructing protesters outside Hamilton Hall. Hold on. I like professional protest consultants. I mean, professional protesters, yes, but a consultant, that sounds like an exit strategy, John. Yeah, we could be a good podcast consultants. We could do that, but that's the money in that.

Definitely. Yeah. Did you see the, God, there's one thing. The Biden pooping thing. Oh, the Biden pooping, the best use of AI this year. We need to do the No Agenda AI Awards. There you go. Best, best category for fake video goes to cat turn.

I'm in. Cat turn. You're already, since I've been pushing for some sort of awards tomorrow show. There's our awards. The AI podcast awards. We'll just throw podcast in there to give it some validity. But it's not about podcasts at all. The AI podcast awards.

Because we do the awards on podcast and we hand out the best, well, AI. And here's, here's. Best fake voice. Yeah. Best fake voice. Best. And of course, we have to have an R rated category.

Best R rated picture of Taylor Swift. Oh, Taylor Swift. It's his own category altogether. Yeah. And we should say, best AI spokeshole. Dear members of the media and the public, I welcome you. My name is Victoria

Shee. I have been created by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine using artificial intelligence to provide you with timely and high quality information on consular affairs. I am a digital person. That means that the text you hear was not read by a real person. It was

generated by artificial intelligence. I will carry out a number of tasks. First and foremost, I will inform the public, providing timely and verified information from Ukraine's consular service. Oh, wow. It's, yeah, have you seen her? Good catch.

Have you seen her? Have you seen her? No, I have not seen her. I know, but you know, do you have to remember that the Japanese had an AI girl who's extremely famous in Japan. Somebody in one of our Japanese producers can remember the name of this woman. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, and it was a face, and she was a, she was a celebrity, but she was completely

a computer generated. But it was called back then when she came around. This is five, six, seven, eight years ago when she showed up. This was called computer generated. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like Max Headroom.

Like Max Headroom. Yes, like Max Headroom. He can be one of our celebrity judges. Max Headroom. Yeah, he had to have his head jerking around a lot. Yeah, one of those guys. Hey, I think we're on to something here. It's begging.

The AI world is begging for an award show. Oh, yes. They need it. They do. And then they can, and we can tell everyone, hey, listen, you know, just in case you win wink, wink, nudge, I think, you know, as possibly you might have won. Could you please do an acceptance speech for us, really funny? So the show creates itself. If you're going to take it to the limit, a couple of things that should be noted. One, yes, you do that. You bribe people with awards to get them to speak. Lifetime Achievement Award. Not right away, but I'd say within a couple of years, probably within three, you'd have to get nominated, you have to pay a fee.

Oh, of course. No, this is how it works. No, there's an entrance fee. Yeah. That's how we make our money. It's a reasonable fee. Yes, $2,000. That's how we make money.

Yeah, absolutely. And then we make money on the catering for the gala. Yeah, there has to be catering. There has to be a gala. Red carpet. Well, I don't know about that. Well, maybe. But some of the guys who do this stuff,

you don't want to see them on the red carpet. But there are so many companies. Now, we're just doing it virtual. We'll save money. There are so many companies who have, you know, it'll be best. Oh, we're not going to do a virtual. We're going to have a real event.

Best prompt jockey. Think about it. That's going to be hard. Here's the problem with that. I would say not. Merch. We got merch. We're going to sell merch.

Yeah, merch. Lots of merch. Somebody else could do the merch. We don't have to do it. We're just job it out. All right. But I would say, I don't like, the prompt jockey thing is going to be tough because what you're doing is you're exposing probably somebody's employee to poaching. Yeah, okay.

They're not going to go for that. But we can definitely get a whole bunch of comedians to judge the funniest memes, you know, the funniest video memes, the funniest. You know, the panel. And then, you know, best, best, faked, leaked audio like that. Oh, yeah. We can sit down and do the categories. Okay, good. All right.

It's done deal. All right. Exit strategy. Beautiful. Well, no, I think we can still do the show. How disappointing now. It's just not a good idea. Well, let's start off with the fact that battery technology really hasn't changed since the late 1800s.

That's right. When we had electric cars. And everything's been a tweak. And, you know, we can do this. We can do that. It's all tweaks. It's a tweak. It's a tweak.

So they get where we got today, you know, lithium ion, sodium ion and all the rest of them. They're all explosive, which is a problem. Nobody wants to really think about. Here's a drive around a bomb. Here's the thought. So if these cars are being discarded. And by the way, you know, I got a note from one of our knights who interestingly starts off by saying, I just stopped driving a Tesla Model 3 for Uber last week.

I live in Orange County, California, and I have been at 30% on the 10. It's not a big deal. And I'm thinking, okay, well, how come you stop driving it? But he says that, you know, the price $10 for a fill-up compared to $70 was well worth it. And I think, well, how about the depreciation on your car? Which he didn't answer yet. But if these cars, you know, if it's a write-off at 20,000, so you can probably buy it for five, Hey, I'll give you five grand for that car.

Can't we just take these? I mean, do you think the batteries are good enough that we can just put a like a generator in the back? You know, and just pull the cord and drive? I mean, seriously, I mean, I'd drive one of those. You're a hater. I am. I would drive one of those.

If you could mount a hybrid. Put a hybrid sticker on it. If you could mount a generator in the front, I guess, or whatever, just mount it in there. The little exhaust pipe sticking out, and it's connected to the battery so it keeps a trickle charge. You can just keep driving as long as you have the-old. A hybrid. Yeah.

Toyota does those. Yeah, but you can get it for five grand and have a slick looking car. Hold on, baby. Brum, brum. So what you're thinking of is an exit strategy for making EV conversion kits. Yes, EV back to gas. Ev to ice, baby. So you put it, you take the trunk, which is the front, usually there's a big, there's a trunk.

There's nothing in there. it's in the front. Right. You can put a small motor in there with a, and you poke a hole in the lid of the, literally just, just poke a hole, just rammed him with a nail,

with a nail, and then you have this thing and you crank it up every time before you went. And you hook it to the battery, so it's charged, trickle charging constantly. Yes, and then we, and we, and the,

and the, we add, with adhesive tape, we stick a, a solar panel on the roof. Gaffer, Gaffer, Gaffer, or duct tape. Gaffer tape. Come on, we can make two grand a car.

You buy it for five, you know, you throw four maybe, throw in a Jenny. You poke a hole for the start. I think this is, yeah, this is your, this is Texas creeping into your brain. What I'm not seeing. I mean, come on. It's, it's, it's embarrassing at this point. He's embarrassing. And Sam, I tried to clip.

He did an hour-long interview. with one of his venture capital partners on their podcast. This is the thing these days. You have a VC company and then you have. Well, this is not just these days. It's been going on for years. But you have your podcaster and residence. Oh, I'm going to interview Sam about this.

Podcasting residence. I love that. Oh, yeah. Podcaster in residence for sure. Okay. What do you do? I'm a podcast and residence. What do you do?

I sit here. It's an exit strategy. Yeah. Hello, Adam Curry, John C. Borak here. We are podcasters and residents for Kleiner Perkins. Let's talk about some green tech, everybody. I think this is one of my favorites. He has said, you know, the future of law enforcement is rich people will have private security in your gated communities. Everything will be safe. It'll be private. A lot of cops leaving the force, going private, make three times as much money.

For the poor neighborhoods, you get drones. What a dazzling view of Central Park, a rare in glorious sight from 200 feet high. The plush tree tops to the skyline, all captured by an NYPD drone. I would love to see this drone control areas that the cops cannot get to, that they have to use maybe a scooter or a bicycle. The NYPD expanding its fleet of 85 drones, now implementing a new initiative called drones as first responders. I'm going to put this drone station on top of this precinct behind me.

Integrated into the 911 call system, the drones will be piloted remotely from one police plaza in the presence of the departmental attorney as a safeguard against improper surveillance. The first units being installed at three precincts in Brooklyn, one in the Bronx and at the Central Park precinct. Person shot, person staff, person rob. Climes in progress are real serious crimes. We're going to dispatch the drones autonomously and it's going to fly to wherever the call may be. The drones can get to places officers can't because they have infrared cameras, and they can do so within seconds as opposed to an officer on foot or in a car. The great New York City Police Department, who's represented well here today,

has used drones to assist with search and rescue efforts. NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Operations, Kaz Dottry, testifying before Congress Thursday about the department's use of emerging technology. It's drones, most recently used to inspect for earthquake damage, This is the New York City Police Department. And for crowd control. We're leveraging this technology. We want to use this technology to keep New York safe.

We want to introduce this technology into our crime fighting apparatus. And this technology is a game changer. No, it's a game changer. Yeah. This is the future. I like the idea of the drone that has like a hand. We're holding it like a 45. Yeah.

Just this is the one gun. And every time it shoots, it goes back about five feet and then it comes back. Citizens, citizens, stand still, citizen, citizen, put down that apple. Citizen, you're eating illegal fruit, citizens, stop it. Now, I think that this is a time for kids to consider, reconsider something that used to be popular, like, I guess, I don't know, even in the 50s. Slingshots. Sling shots. Sling shots.

They're great product. Yeah, hey, hey. Sling shots and a ball bearing. John. Exit strategy. This no agenda A drone with a slingshot. It's very doable.

No agenda. Very doable. No agenda slingshots. Yeah. They'll know, you know, the leather patch, like, has no agenda on it. And then on the other side it says, hit him in the mouth. Come on. You're right.

No agenda slingshots. Ball bearing sold separately. The wrist rocket. That's it. Trolldar. The wrist rocket. Did you ever, I had a wrist rocket? No, I was after my time.

Oh, because it had, you know, the ball. that would rest on your on your wrist yeah yeah yeah they're good product the outstanding product yes okay kids take it from uncle john get a slingshot hit that drone slingshot that's right see how that works out for you take this take this just press this button and then he goes to press the button and nothing happens they they swat him and then yeah we saved a save you again america you know that kind of nonsense is happening all over the place. We know people who've gone to jail over nonsense. Yes, we do.

And so, and then, so just kind of to go on the theory that they really, really want him to win, the new MAGA ad, which is actually, it's over a minute and a half. It's got like, what's Bill Barr's all over it and all these people who, who distance themselves from him. Yeah, they also stabbed Trump in the back at one time or another. Thank you for joining us here today. Earlier this afternoon, Donald Trump was arranged by a Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts. This case is an abomination. You know, it's obviously political. Seven years to try to come up with this case.

They're just wrong on the law. The only crime that Donald Trump is being prosecuted for is the crime of running for president. Political persecution at the highest level. They've quite frankly given up on trying to beat you at the polls, either going to steal it or stop it by law firm. A Democrat prosecutor elected on a get Trump platform. What's going on here is a disgusting disgrace. It is war on Trump.

It is war on the Republican Party. And it is a war on the republic. This case is the weakest case I've seen in 60 years of teaching, practicing, and writing about permanent law. And I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump. This judge, I mean, you don't need a prosecutor if you have a judge like this. This judge is not on the level. It's a terrible case, but the judge has been pretty much a rubber stamp on everything that Breg has wanted to do. They're perverting the system of justice.

That's where the danger lies, the corruption and subversion of our institutions. This guy again. This is the Democrat's entire strategy to confine President Trump to a dirty criminal courtroom and keep him off the campaign trail where he can bring his winning message to vote. voters across this country. New York has become a legal banana republic. They are so determined to get Donald Trump. Look, convicting Donald Trump, that's all they have.

I think they have no cards. And they're depending upon Trump getting convicted. That Trump train doesn't show any signs of slowing down. The only verdict that matters is the verdict at the ballot box. Man, so it's bombastic. It's like hitting me in the face with a wet salmon. And Bill Barr has always been considered the CIA's man. Totally.

So he is not saying this. And the Epstein man. On his own. No, no. So now it's also, I mean, I'm just looking at all the different possibilities here. Because, of course, it's not like one Democrat party. It's not like one deep state that all want the same thing. It's obvious that Joy Behard, you know, she's leaky.

So, no, she's happy. that Trump is going to jail, she thinks, which just seems unlikely. Although I still think an ankle monitor would be a cool thing to do. Because if they do that, then everybody will be wearing ankle monitors. Everybody everywhere. It would be a fashion statement. Yes. Hey, exit strategy.

There you go. Now you're thinking. Now you're thinking. Yes, the entire account is entered into evidence. Yeah. And it was from the laptop. and the whole laptop fiasco thing. Well, yeah, 51 liars.

Yeah. How can you trust these guys? It's inexcusable. You know what I'm waiting for? I'm waiting for someone to say, Mr. Hunter Biden, what's that in your mouth? Because it's a crack pipe, obviously. Yeah, it's a crack pipe.

End of an era, John, and an opportunity for you and me in our never-ending search for an exit strategy. Tonight, after more than 40 years, On Wheel of Fortune, five more spins for Pat Sejadak. This week will be his last. My name is Pat Seajak, and I've been fortunate enough to wander onto the set. Pat Sejerk retiring after 41 seasons, starting in 1981, watched by generations of families.

We have a million dollar winner. At Chenekear, Pat Sejak interviewed by his daughter, Maggie, who works on the show and is even filled in for Vanna White. Somewhere along the line, we became more than a popular show. We became part of the popular culture. And more importantly, we became part of people's lives. What made you decide that this is the right time for you to leave the show? I'd rather leave a couple years too early than a couple of years too late. Could I still do it?

Yeah, I think I could for a while. There's also some other things in life that we'd like to do. And I'm enjoying this last year. It's been a great 40 years. And I'm looking forward to whatever's ahead. So after 40 years, Pat Sejack is giving up on the ever-popular show. show, which leaves a gaping hole, John, open for our game show. Win, lose, or drone.

I'm telling you, it's time. The time is ripe. Our game show will be an instant hit. See them. Showing the back scenes of it. There's nothing hidden or nefarious that we're doing with these drones. They're there for public safety. It's for your protection, people.

Don't worry. Nothing to see here. It's just for your public safety and protection. And so now I like this added feature. where they can stream the body cams up to the drone and back to base. That's cool. I mean, this, and you know what they're going to be doing. If you and I were cops at the Jersey Shore, what would we be doing, John?

Probably shooing green-headed flies away. No, we'd be looking for thongs. Hey, Bob. Thongs, of course you are. There was a test done some years ago where they had a, they had some police officers were put into a surveillance. situation, where they're supposed to keep an eye on the front door? And there was the next door neighbor's house was some woman stripping.

Yeah. They couldn't keep their eyes on the door. They kept watching the girl. And so, yeah, exactly, you're right. That's exactly what you'd be doing. But there was a little tidbit in there that it caught my attention. When did you have to be FAA certified? Oh, no, that's a must now.

You either have to be, you either have to be, have an existing pilot's license, or you have to have a, you have to get licensed. Certainly for, if it's out of rain so you can't see the drone. I mean, oh, it's licensing now. I haven't heard this. We've discussed this many times. Well, I find it. I even just, I even discussed it as a potential exit strategy.

I got a pilot's license. I can be Babe watching. Babe watching. It reminds me when I... Can you imagine, by the way, can you imagine being women on the beach and having drones just hovering right over you? Yeah, of course. The camera pointed down. I mean, this is ridiculous, this whole thing.

It reminds me of my check ride. When I did my check ride, so, you know, I already did my theoretical, past my theory test and did my helicopter check ride. And then like a year later, I got my fixed wing license when you don't have to do the theoretical part, just a check ride. And I did it at Willamette Valley at Willamette Airport, which is a great airport because, you know, you can crash land, you know, a triple seven there. And it's a huge, a huge runway.

And, you know, the examiner come, you know, it's just an examiner guy's, FAA, you know, guy. And he gets in, I fly around and says, hey, hey, take it down to three. 300 feet. What do you mean? Well, sometimes there's a babe over here. She's nude sunbathing. Let's see if we can see her. This is my check ride. It's like, what? Are you kidding me? Yeah, there you go. So the idea is a stock exchange that doesn't have DEI requirements. Is that the idea? I have no idea what he's talking about. He's just, it seems like just some sort of a tax, you know, Texas looks for tax angles and this is a good idea for that. Well, on that, Yahoo had a report on this, and it gave me an idea. It's interesting to see this because you know very well that there's a bit of an IPO drought right now.

IPO volumes have been very, very muted. When it comes to the Texas Stock Exchange, I mean, what is the potential vision here for the business in terms of what they're targeting? So it does seem like they're targeting corporations that would go to NIC and NASDAQ, but might be frustrated with some of the new rules and regulations, the compliance that is put in place. Think about NASDAQ's board diversity program that they have put in that might limit some companies that don't meet the certain threshold that is placed for listing on NASDAQ. If they still want to go public but don't meet the threshold, they might choose the Texas Stock Exchange. That is really what this business is targeting. They want to be an open venue that has less rules, less restrictions than NIC and NASDAQ.

They're going to really promote themselves as the welcoming Texas state that is welcoming to companies that might not want to go through the hurdles that they would see in New York. This is a fantastic opportunity. This is just a scammer's delight. No, we should take the no agenda show public on the Texas Stock Exchange. Yeah, there you go. Think about it. Everyone gets a share. We go public.

Exit strategy. Take a little, we take some off the table. Take a little off the table. You know, we bring in Linda Lou. We promote our code Bongino. It would be a bonanza. Take our crackpot. Let's see how far it goes.

Teen, I think, is when we first got that jingling. So we were probably talking about it in 2016. And the whole idea was you could have no agenda producers take a nap because it would be less carbon dioxide, exuded and that would be a carbon offset. So it seems like there's no regulation. It's a bonanza. It's a free-for-all. Let's listen to some more from NPR.

That feels like a big problem. If your money isn't actually reducing as much climate pollution as the offset claims, what's the other issue? Something called permanence. Offsets are supposed to reduce or remove carbon dioxide pollution, right? The carbon dioxide. Some carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere, hundreds of years, some CO2 sticks around even longer, thousands of years. Here's the thing.

Wait, some CO2 sticks around for thousands of years? What is this magical dust? By the way, I think the troll room is right. It must have been much earlier than 2017. It must have been... I think it was over 10 years ago. Oh, no, I think you're right. Let's go back to this carbon dioxide that hangs around for a thousand years. Some CO2 sticks around even long. thousands of years. Thousands. How do they know? Is there still Jesus carbon dioxide hanging around?

Here's the thing. The vast majority of carbon offsets only promise to remove or store CO2 emissions for 40 years or less. Cullen Ward says a 40-year promise of reducing emissions does not compare to a 300-year or several thousand-year impact of carbon dioxide. So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets, consumers? I just love the breathiness of these two. John, is there really anything that we can do about these offsets? I don't know, Adam.

I think that something could be done. It's just thousands of time. So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets, consumers, and companies are buying? Late last month, the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, announced new principles for high quality. What, Janet Yellen? Janet Yellen announced something? Ah, what is she? She's a climatologist.

She didn't know that. Consumers and companies are buying. Late last month, the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, announced new principles for high-quality carbon offsets. Ah, there we go. Oh, we had the low-quality carbon offsets. Now we're going to have a high-quality carbon. one, foam finger number one for our offsets. High quality, that is, offsets that actually reduce or remove climate pollution.

But researchers say even these new principles have gaps. For example, the principles do not identify how long offsets have to keep carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere, no number. Also, these are just principles. Researchers worry without enforcement, these voluntary principles might or might not be followed. A Treasury spokesperson said, Though the principles released last month are voluntary, we believe they can help guide efforts to address the challenges. Okay. I finally, I figured it out. It's the exit strategy to end all exit strategies.

You ready? Okay. I'm all ears. How much carbon, because we can't say carbon dioxide, how much carbon do you think is caused by every episode of the no agenda show, taking into account the work that you and I do, the seven, 800,000 people. who listen, the computers, the phones they're using. This has got to be quite a lot of carbon, don't you think? I have no idea. Let's put a number on it. Theoretically, yes, in fact, I have a clip coming up. Which makes it even worse, whatever the number is. So, well, whatever it is, I think we should sell carbon offsets to stop us from podcasting. So think, think about it.

is very counterintuitive. No, it's fantastic. So we need to sell the carbon offsets so that we don't waste all of this energy and carbon that's being just slashed into the air. And the carbon that we are exhaling right now will be around for thousands of years. It's high quality carbon that we are getting rid of. And people could pay us to. Okay.

Okay. And then the viral clip this week regarding AI came from the CEO of Microsoft's AI, Mustafa Suleiman. Oh, yeah, I'm glad you got this clip. This is worth discussing. With respect to content that has already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware, if you like. That's been the understanding. There's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said,

do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content. That's a gray area, and I think that's going to work its way through the courts. John, I think we both have some experience in copyright. Maybe you want to weigh in on this one? Everything that's on the web is copyrighted. everything that people produce copyright and to get to the point of fair use, which we push the boundaries on because we take clips, it has to be used for some other reason other than its original intent.

So, for example, we can take a clip from NBC, but we're not using it to present it as the news clip that it was originally. We use it to either, you know, to deconstruct the clip, educate the public. It's a different use. It's a use that's different use. and it's not a lot. It's a very small percentage of the original, and it's all legal.

To take the entire web, which is he implies, the entire thing is all public domain and all fair use is bull crap. But where does he get this idea? It's just, you know, this is going to be used against him in a court of law. This statement, in fact. And just so. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. He's going to get burned by what he did that clip. Every single MP3 we release.

has in its ID3 tags, a copyright, no agenda LLC. I have sued corporations under the, and in fact I set jurisprudence suing a publisher, a large publisher in the Netherlands, for taking my pictures off of Flickr. Yeah, you can't do that. Which I'd publish under Creative Commons, which was distribute, share-alike, no commercial.

And they lost, and I won. And I'm still hoping for the day they'd do it again, because then I get to charge them 5,000 euros for every copy for every day. It's in its circulation. Oh, that'd be great. That's an exit strategy right there. Yeah, that's not happening. No, that's not happening.

So it looks like one of those rubber wheels. You wear it around your neck and then you press it. And it doesn't, and so it listens to you. It doesn't respond to you. It responds to you on your phone with a text message. Listen to the report. I don't know how to woo very good. It's the video Silicon

Valley is talking about the effects are crazy. A teaser for a wearable product called Friend, which promises to be just that, if you consider AI, to be your friend. You kind of have this feeling of no judgment, and I think that allows you to be a lot

more authentic with it. Avi Shishman, the 21-year-old who created Friend, and spent just shy of $2 million for the website friend.com, describes his product as a good listener. Sorry, I got you messy. The most similar relationship you could attribute it to might be a relationship with God,

where it's this kind of omnipresent, all-knowing entity that you have around you, that you can kind of like talk to in a silent, you know, private, confidant way with no judgment. Not everyone is sold yet. It sounds like it's designed by people that don't know how to make friends. But tech professor Ahmed Banffa, who's tried many AI devices, says this might hit the mark. It's remind me with the case when you are... We have a very close friend, and he feel comfortable saying, you know, some kind of a dumb thing to that friend without worrying that they're going to judge you.

The company says the device will cost $99 when it's available, no subscription necessary, and it'll essentially work like this. Put the lanyard around the neck. It'll have a pendant at the end of it. You push a button on the pendant, and it will give you encouragement, advice, feedback on whatever it is you've been talking about. Yes, it listens all the time, but the company says it will not store any audio recordings. Schiffman believes it's an example of how AI can help. You know, I think having an AI friend that will say like, oh, good luck on the interview, will increase your productivity far more than it reminding you that it's in five minutes.

In fact, after we spoke, he sent me this text from his friend named Emily, saying that he nailed the interview. his friends named Emily hello so I think there's so I product opportunities yeah go ahead I think it's a good idea by the way me too and I'll tell you why we had a conversation at the dinner table and JC had some stats about how different generational groups have less and less friends to the Z group the Zs the Zs the zeros wherever you want to call them the zoomers the zoomers they pretty much have zero friends they they have like it's

Their average number of friends outside of, you know, besides outside the family is one. Yes. Well, you go to the millennials, it's like four or five and you go to the everything else is a little higher. At least it's that many. But it's not one. I think there's some real exit strategy opportunities for us here. First of all, I think it would be great just to have an AI called God, you know. He said it.

Well, it's like having God with you all the time. Okay, good. You can do that. Or how about your real friend, which is Adam and John? And we're going to, we're not going to, we're going to be real friends. Like, you look like crap. Your butt looks big. Tuck your shirt in.

Show up on time. Get off my lawn. So a nagging duo. No, real, real friends. Real friends. Yeah, well, that's real friends do. Who really care about you. It's like, no, the essay sucks.

Get off chat. Get off Twitter. Yeah, get up. Get out of bed. Get out of bed. That's what you want. Case in point. I really see the easy way to look at charts.

But a lot of unsophisticated investors views it for their news and information. This is, who is this dude? Patrick Moorhead, an analyst. I really see two may... You know Patrick Moran. Patrick Moran. Patrick Moray had used to be a very famous public relations guy for AMD. Oh, interesting.

Well, he's now an analyst. I really see two major, actually three major buckets for AI plays. The first one is this infrastructure. Anybody who is related to building out these massive data centers with GPUs, in them, I think, are very confident next 12 to 18 months, that's going to be the case. And we saw the capital expenditure commitments by Microsoft and META and Amazon. It is absolutely peddled to the metal on that. And then there's the longer term downstream, right?

The enterprise software providers that there has to be benefit in a large scale for all this to interconnect because there is just factually an overinvestment in the capability versus the downstream benefits at this point. And if that gear doesn't

connect in let's say 12 months, what's going to happen is the investors of these enterprise software companies are going to be asking, where's the benefit and have super pressure on these companies to start scaling back

And that is when all bets are off. This is going to come apart so beautifully. Every single day I receive emails from dude's name Ben, like, oh, man, we had to implement one of these AI things. It's just a stupid chatbot. Our customers hate it. We hate it. It doesn't work. 20%, 25%, 30% of the answers it gives us wrong.

It's not working. Now, this, your buddy, Patrick, did have an interesting side note here, but I think he's reading this, the tea leaves the wrong way. And then the final thing I want to add is I still think there's this untapped opportunity, which is the AI PC and AI smartphones. You know, we saw a little bit on the AI smartphones related to Apple. We saw a slight bump on that. But when you consider there's only one generation of Apple smartphones that can do all. all the AI tricks out there. And then people are going to have to buy new smartphones, new tablets, and even new Macs.

That's really, I think, good news for companies like Apple and Qualcomm and even AMD and Intel. I see it exactly the opposite. I don't think a single person is going to want to buy a new phone that costs even more because of AI tricks. I think it's going to hurt Apple. I don't think I want this. things. You have a, you have a negative attitude. Of course, this is your beat. Very, very negative attitude. And you are very negative. My son who works in AI, well, he's been silent. He thinks it's the best thing. No, no, he says, oh, okay. He says something that you can put in the red book, and I think

it's, I think he might be right. He thinks that it's got, it's got enough legs to go two more years. Wow. In other words, no. Yeah, and most people to see bubble, like you do, you know, this idea of being a bubblehead, always are premature. And I'm guessing he's probably right about the two years. Now, that means we'll have our cable business in place. Yes. Because it's only going to take us about a year to do it. Oh, wow. That's good. Our exit strategy is on deck. I love it. we could really find ourselves in trouble. So what are some of the specific issues RFK has been wanting to take on?

For example, and I think this is one that many health professionals are actually in favor of, which is better regulating our food supply, in particular food additives, preservatives, ultra-processed foods. But you actually need to know how to navigate the science, how to navigate the law. And to get that done, you would really need to have Congress on board. Congress may have to grant some additional authorities, particularly given some of the decisions made by the Supreme Court in recent years, the major questions doctrine, for example. And without the right backup, scientific backup, it's going to be very difficult for him to get that done. She says something very interesting here, which I caught it only the second time I'd listen to the clip. She's talking about doctrine. Now, in one case, she's saying, she's mentioning kind of, without saying it, the Chevron deference.

But then she says the major questions doctrine, which is another form, which I hadn't heard of. And luckily we have our constitutional lawyer who's going to help us with this. But this is another, it's another version of a deference like Chevron deference. I think they call it the clear statement rule. When the agency asserts it has authority to decide major questions, court should independently determine whether the agency's interpretation of its statutory authority is the most reasonable reading of the statute. That's Chevron deference. Under this major questions, the doctrine says that courts must not interpret statutes as delegating major questions to agencies unless Congress

clearly said so. So she is on the inside somehow and already knows that this is where it's going to go towards, and probably another Supreme Court ruling about this major questions doctrine, which is new for me. So we're going to get the skinny on this. Rob, our constitutional lawyer sends me a quick little note. Good summary of the major questions doctrine. When you're ready, I'm hiring you. All right, I have an exit strategy. I'm going to become a lawyer.

He says it's all about the separation of powers. Congress needs to do its freaking job and quit abdicating. I got a culinary tip, which I've been sitting on for a while. And boy, that hurts. Yeah. And this is a product. that is used in Southeast Asian cooking, and I've gotten to a discussion with J.C. about it, he claims that this is originally a condiment or flavoring ingredient that came from the Romans

and then somehow got to China where then it was changed over time to the Southeast Asia where they make it all over the place. It's called, and it's got a, I don't think the name's appropriate, but it's called fish sauce. Fish sauce. All right. Now, you can find it, you can get on Amazon. There's a bunch of brands. In fact, there's more brands than you can imagine. I would recommend people start with Red Boat, which was a fairly new fish sauce maker, but he does it the right way.

Fish sauce is made from black anchovies that have been fermented in salt for one year in a barrel. Wow. And with French cooking, sometimes you use anchovies. like they're used in Caesar salads and you know, you're taking, they're always salt and you scrape it off and you mix it into different sauces. This does, it accomplishes the same thing. And a couple of things you should know. One, it doesn't taste like fish. Good to know. It, and I would recommend getting Red Boat, which is done by, which is a new company, fairly new company developed by an Apple engineer who is Vietnamese who couldn't find good fish sauce.

because what the Asians do and what smart European cooks do is you use it as a salt substitute in spaghetti sauces and soups and stews. That was going to be my question is what do you use it on? So as a salt substitute in spaghetti's and soups? Yeah, it adds umami that you wouldn't get from salt, like a lot of it. It's an umami ingredient where you do, which is the latest buzzword into cooking circles is umami, which is mouthfeas. And it adds you umami and a lot of salt.

What you do is when you buy it, you get your bottle of red boat, which is a starter. There's all kinds of companies that make this, but this is the one that's extremely popular in this country because of the Apple connection. The guy knows how to market to Americans. You take a drop or two of it and put in a spoon and taste it. You'll see what I'm talking about. It's electrically salty and delicious, but it doesn't taste like fish. It's just some sort of it.

And I'm sorry that they call it fish sauce, but that's basically. It's fermented anchovy juice. It's bad marketing, fish sauce. Well, it's just what it's called. So you put a couple of shakes in your spaghetti sauce as a secret ingredient. It'll knock the thing up two notches in terms of deliciousness. Exit strategy. Do you think you could make this fish sauce?

Do you think you have the chops to make it? I could make it, but I wouldn't do it cost effectively. like they can in Cambodia, for example. Yeah, but wait, but wait. That has nothing to do with it. You just need the right branding. For instance, I can see a two-for-one, Jansi DeVorex, seasoning of reveal,

and as a bonus, you get Umami Magic. Now, that's a name for us fish sauce. Um-ammy Magic. Come on. Come on. Okay, well, then the way it should be done, as to think ahead of the game, private label some stuff out of Vietnam.

Just get some crap and put umami magic on. No, it's not crap. I'm telling you, this stuff, if people start using this in their everyday cooking, can we? No, I will say this. This is an exit. This is an, this is a, umami magic is a winner. Okay.

I wrote it down. Yeah. Did the sale of Alex Jones's info wars to the satirical news outlet, the onion. Federal bankruptcy judge Christopher Lopez, I cited problems with the auction process and said the outcome left a lot of money on the table for families of the Sandy Hook School shooting who stand to receive most of the proceeds. The Onion, which had planned to relaunch InfoWars as a parody site, bid $1.3.3 million dollars in cash plus other incentives, while a company that sells nutritional supplements in Jones's name offered $3.5 million. The decision means Jones can stay at his Info Wars headquarters in Austin, and Jones quickly went back on the air to applaud the judge's decision. Christopher Maddie, a lawyer for the Sandy Hook families, said they were disappointed.

in the judge's ruling, but they are as determined as ever to hold Jones and his business is accountable for the harm he caused. Courts have ordered Jones to pay nearly one and a half billion dollars in restitution for falsely calling the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a hoax. It's not, that's not correct for falsely called. That's not correct. But at least we know it was the boner pill guy. He like, that must have been a good business. Yeah, well, Alex was selling a lot of pills. And they wanted to keep him selling pills.

He was the front man for this guy. Yep. So they bid one something million and they'll, oh, I can do, I can top that easy enough to do this in a week. We got to, why don't we sell pills? We could be making killing on these pills. And you know what? We're getting to the age where we can say, hey, I'm taking these pills and look at me. Yeah.

I'm still alive. I'm doing great. Use code Bongino. Come on, man. It's an exit strategy. Yeah, I don't think so. I can call Alex's Boner Pill guy. And we could probably get a five-figure deal for this podcast.

We get a five-figure deal. Hey, man, we're looking for offers. Five figures, not a penny less. And you get the feed with it. We'll throw in the feed. Although I have an exit strategy. Your feed is worth more than $10 million. Oh, wow.

What's the exit strategy? Oh, well, it's something that you're kind of already good at. Yeah? Yeah. What could that be? AI influencers. Yeah. There's something called, it's just 39 seconds is really bad, but at least you get an idea.

It's the lush exchange, and they help you put, I mean, you've got to see the video. They help you put together with their AI tools, your own influencer, which you can then use on Oh, I see what you're referring to Becky. Welcome to the lush exchange, the coinbase for AI influencers. Instagram models, only fans, creators, and even Hollywood actors will all be disrupted by the exponential rise of AI influencers. Ever wanted to own a social media star?

Or better yet, a portfolio of them? Well, now you can. The lush exchange will create capital markets for this emerging trillion dollar asset class. Trade and invest in this new class of cash generating real world assets, including me. So you can build your influencers. You can then list them like a like a token. So people can buy pieces of your... It's a great idea.

I think... And I love it because... This is going to fill everything with this slop. You happened to the art tokens that were, what was that about? Remember that? That short-lived. The art tokens? Yeah, well, you draw art.

NFTs, NFTs? NFC. Yeah, that's kind of. Yeah, this is the same kind of thing that keeps reinventing it in different forms. Yeah, yes, but I think that Scaramanga, that he will be a billionaire within the next five years. Well, Scaramanga could be the one because he definitely. has the chops for it. I mean,

and just, just, have you, did you ever see that movie he did? The video. No, yeah,

yeah, you didn't send me the link. Okay. You've got to see it because it's so good. Just imagine that with the influencer, you know, on only fans.

Are you kidding me? I can be his agent. No, you've got to, listen, I already set you up before that. You write the scripts that Dame Jennifer reads them

because that'll be the differentiator. You've got a real, she's got the voice for it. Got a real person to do the voice. And Scaramanga does the, hey, wait a minute. Why am I giving you the exit strategy? I need to be in on this deal.

We'll cut you in. Okay, just for the idea. You can be the manager. I can be created by. You and Brunetti. Created by. Brunetti, Brunetti, he should be in on this, too. He knows smut.

It'd be great. I'm telling you, this is going to be a huge business. Yeah, we can put a team together. It's probably already, half of the influences probably are already fake that are out there. I mean, it's, and it's going to ruin social networks. It's going to be awesome. Well, that would be a plus. Yes, that's why I'm trying to promote it.

And these influencers that are out there, and there's so many of them. Yes. They're all bogus. Yeah, you don't want, you want ones you can control. And they can dance, they can, you know, walk around, show their clothes. They can do the makeup videos. It's great. It's just guaranteed moneymaker.

And someone's going to be. We're in. We're all in. We're in. We use the podcast to promote it. Yes, we will. We'll promote Becky. I don't think Becky is a good name, though, for our influencer.

We have to have a different name. Well, we'll come up with better names. Raven. Wait a minute. Where is my Raven? Here we go. From Reseda, here she is. Raven.

Give it up. Yeah, we should resurrect Club 33. It's a member only subscription, and then you can take the girls into the private room for a dance. It's like an influencer slash only fans. Yeah. I got a mile a minute, baby. I got ideas. Yeah, you're on a roll.

How much, how many cups of coffee do you? How many, how much gigawatt coffee did you have this morning? This comes in line with people should go track down to Mark Stein lectures at were done at Hillsdale College. Oh, man, yeah. I saw the... Have you heard these things? Yeah, Tina was playing some of it.

This is the, against the climate change guy? Yeah, the climate. Mark Stein did... I'm pretty good at understanding some of these libel and slander issues, but... And I'm not sure. I had to read the case to see what's really going on here. But Mark Stein's been in court for 13 plus years or so. 12 to 14 years.

I can't remember the exact number. But years in the D.C. courts, which are hung up on. Six or eight years. It's been going on for a long time. He made the comment based on the hockey stick, the already debunked many times debunked hockey stick graph. Let's just say scientific. Climate change.

Scientifically disproven instead of debunked. No, he said the guy was. of fraud. And so, and the guy, the person who put that hockey stick thing together sued him for slander or liable or something for some outrageous amount of money, which will be a dollar or two and is done.

But the, and it's been in court because of the D.C. court system for years, Michael Mann. Michael Mann. Michael Mann is the guy. Michael Mann. Who's Michael Mann? Yeah, Michael Mann is the guy who sued him.

Michael Man is the hockey. guy. Okay. And so he got his tit in the ringer for just making this comment. And this is very concerning. Well, how about this? How about value for value? People are using that everywhere. I think we should sue them. And they're Bitcoiners. So they got Bitcoin. They got some coin. You go out for the big. Hey, you're using value for value, man. You can't do that. I can hear the gears turning in your head. John's like exit strategy. Yeah. I don't think we can do that. I do have good news.

There's a possible exit strategy for Adam and John, finally. And this comes from Canada, and it's a medical breakthrough. And we can, we literally can make so much money if we participate in this exit strategy. First, I need to know if you're interested. We're interested in all good ideas. I got the tech grouch lined up. really i'm getting closer because i had to get a new tech grouch cap and i just order some new tech grouch glasses you're going to do tech grouch but not going to do the microphone company or

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That's what that is. It's all bull. It's smoke and mirrors. It's all of this, this AI, it's all fantastic for making deep fake nudes. It's really good at that. It's great at making, you know, scaramangos. makes movies about Jesus in a coffee shop. It's great for that stuff.

But I just, you know. We know your position. But I would be all for, I mean, think of the exit strategy. If we could train an AI to have our views and our insight, and we have 17 years of transcripts and audio to train an LLM, a large language multimodal model on it, and do our voices and answer an email or two, we could kick back and relax, baby.

How come we can't get this? We could. Show me. Well, I'm not going to do it. Why? For one thing, it wouldn't have the contemporaneous gags. So you're telling me. The old material.

The jokes would be recycled. Of course, a lot of people haven't heard the material anyway. You're making my point. for me. Yeah, you might be right. I'll talk to some people about it. Yeah, okay. I did have an exit strategy, which you're going to roll your eyes when I tell you this. Okay, let me pre-roll. Do a pre-roll because I finally like, oh, and it was, there was some other bull crap award show, the 50 over 50 or something for podcast, blah, blah, whatever it was. And then I'm like, there is, here is an award show, an award that only we can give this show, and it's completely valid,

and will be revalidated every year because I'm on the Rogan show. With Grace, I'm on once a year. You've been on that show six times. I thought it was five, but it's six. Yeah. Diminishing returns. Are you ready? Are you ready?

Yeah. The Podfather Awards. Oh, I like it. I knew you would. No, you said I'd roll my eyes. You didn't. What do you change your mind out of it? Oh, I knew you would. No, the fact that I...

You prefaced it. Oh, you're going to roll your eyes. No, no, I knew you'd like it. No, the fact that I'm in on an award show, that part have always been against. But then I thought, why don't I exploit this? And there's people always on ex yelling, you idiot, you nerd, he's not the podfather. Adam Curry's the podfather. And I have proof. And, and, and I think it's possible.

I want to stop you right now. I have been saying that we should be doing awards for a decade. Yes, there's the eye roll. But I never considered the podcast awards. You never considered since it was you never once it's named after you, you're in. Yes, I'm in now. This is, I'm in. This is it.

No, look, this is no time for ego, John. There's no time for ego. It can be. No, no, it makes nothing but sense. Tech Grouch Awards just doesn't cut it, all right? That we can do those later. It does not the same thing. Tech Grouch Awards will be great, not you mention it.

But here's the trick. It has to be a gala. It has to be a gala. Or as I like to say a gala. Yeah, in America, they always say gala. It has to be a gala. I think the Brits say gala too for some reason. Somebody says gala.

Well, we're going to say gala. And I think, because he never shows up, he never accepts an award. I think if we have the right award, I can get Joe Rogan to come. And, and we can do it in his club. How about that? You're liking it, right? Well, I like it except for the fact that I may have to travel. You don't.

You just have to write stuff and just post memes. You don't have to come. If you don't want to, if it's too much trouble for you to come to the gala, if it's too much trouble to come to our Podfather awards. and we need to come up with categories, but they have to be funny, fantastic categories. Like, they have to be good categories.

Well, yeah, like best value tainment. Not joke categories. How about best valutainment? See. Okay, well, you give me some ideas. How about longest podcast? We'd win that one. With no information.

Candace Owens, ladies and gentlemen, the Podfather Award. And what do we call them? Do we call them the potty's? No. The potty's. Oh. That would be the nickname that we would rail against.

People keep calling these the potties, but it sounds like pot, you know, potty training. Yeah. So it would be, you can get an Oscar. Actually, the potties is not, peop. It's not a bad name. You can get an Oscar. It's part of the, now it used to be a trifecta, but it's the Oscar. You get the Grammy Award.

The Urgot. Oh, so we need the Pergat. so now you need to add the Podfather award you are not complete unless you all and everyone has a podcast yeah they can all win all those actors okay best comedy podcast that's one category for sure yeah what you get some you get some hot you get Dana Carvey or somebody to come out no we get those libtards from the what is it to the jason uh what's his face what's the libtard show the one that held all the president's j cal jay call he gets an award for sure Oh, yeah, absolutely. Best All-In podcast.

Yeah, we can have best, best female podcaster. Think about that. No, we don't want to do a sexist stuff. Yes, we do. What are you talking about? Then best trans podcast. Nah, no. There's a hit.

There's a hit. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, it's, I just want you to think about it, you know, since I've, no, I got, I'm in. I'm trying to do. The categorization, I think you're already taking it too lightly.

All right. Well, where's your ideas, brainstorm? I've, what? Yeah, I've had nothing but ideas about this for a decade. Well, then spout them off. What are we doing? First of all, you have to pay to enter. Oh, no.

Well, that's what all the podcast awards you have to pay did to enter. No. Okay. These are real awards. You don't pay to enter. enter the Academy Awards. You don't pay, you have to be a member of the Academy or you, but you don't pay to be a member. We have an Academy. You have to be a member of. Well, maybe that's not a bad idea. The Academy of Podcasting. But that actually exists and it's a horrible leftist organization.

We want no part of it. Really? Yeah, the podcast Academy. Well, okay. Well, forget that. No. Um, but how do we make money? Oh, you want to make me that, dude, I thought it was a promotional idea. The money making is a promotion for the show. Oh, okay. Well. Value for value. Oh, boy. Okay. Oh, man. You just wanted to cash in on some

on some fees? Yes. Exist. All of a sudden. Fees? Access strategy. Can we get a strategy? Collecting fees? Can we get this thing sponsored by Square? Now you're talking. Square Space. Can we get sponsored by Squarespace? We could do that.

We could do sponsorships, underwriting, sponsorships, advertising whatever you want to call it. Yes. TVs? Yeah. Do what that guy does.

Does, you know what? People use anything as an excuse. I've always said this when you do soliciting. People use anything as an excuse not to donate. That's right. Oh, you know, Adam likes to color red. You suck.

I'm not going to donate because you don't like the, you like the color red. I mean, it's just an excuse not to donate. No, no, it goes like this. I was about to donate. But then Adam hated the color red, and I decided, no. That's my favorite. I was, I was, for weeks, I've been thinking time to donate.

I was just about to donate. And then you said something that pissed me off. So now I'm not going to donate. Yeah. That's all right. That is our, that is the true exit strategy. When people stop donating, we exit. That's, so it's up to you.

It's not even up to us to find one. It's up to you to not. not make us go away like the like your favorite shop on the corner them yeah it is up to them yeah it is there you go everybody uh the best of exit strategies revisited thanks again to john jensen circumference he sent that in about two months ago and boy am i happy we had it was perfect perfect timing and a perfect topic too funny enough yeah well yeah so uh we'll know more on Sunday. We'll have an update. As we said, this procedure is, you know, it's like they do this all day long and John is a healthy guy. So I'm sure he'll be out and up in no time and extra cranky. And now he can say, I can't eat salt. Oh, yeah. Well, we're going to have to start policing that.

Yeah. I know. Poor John. So anyway, thank you, Adam. No, Mimi, thank you for coming on. Thank you for keeping us up to speed. And we'll talk on Sunday and we'll have more information. Sounds perfect. Thank you. All right, everybody. We will talk to you on Sunday. Be thinking of him.

Until then, remember us at no agenda donations.com. We'll see you on Sunday. As always, adios, mofos, hooey-hooey, and such.