No Agenda - 1849 - "Hose Water"

Episode Date: March 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what you did. You know why I'm mad. Adam Curry. John C. DeVorak. It's Sunday, March 8, 2026. This is your award-winning Kimball Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1849. This is no agenda. Looking for my lost hour and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I'm Adam Curry. And I'm Mimi Smith, DeVorek. ducking solar flares in the upper northwest corner of the contiguous United States. It's crackpot and boskill. In the morning. Well done. Well, in the morning to everybody who's listening. This is no agenda.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And you heard a different voice, the same voice you heard on Thursday show. Only now that voice will be with you longer. And we will explain after we say good morning and in the morning to me. What was your middle name there? Mimi Smith, DeVorek? Is that what it was? My maiden name is Smith, and I don't always like to spell Dvorak to everybody. So it's Smith Dvorak.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yes. You also do not have a, you don't have a Dvorak email address because you know no one will be able to send you an email because no one can spell it. Well, if you take the V and the A out, it spells Dork. There you go. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:01:24 So, Mimi, everybody has been, just, I mean, my email box is flooded. My X timeline is flooded. My text messages are flooded. Everybody has been just so concerned about John. It's amazing how many people, I'm pretty sure they're not Christians, are praying for him, which is always interesting to see that. And it's much appreciated.
Starting point is 00:01:50 You have to give us a little rundown of what happened the past week and what the situation. We need a sit rep on what's happening. as of this hour. Okay. Well, first, I'm going to tell you that not just Christians pray. So there's that. Well, thank you for setting me straight. Yes, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yes. Well, okay, so John, let me start from the beginning. He wasn't feeling great, but he had to have some blood work done and went to the doctor, mentioned that his chest was hurting a little bit. Doctors immediately sent him to the ER. This was Tuesday? This was 3-3, which was, what, every day that was. Yeah, I think it was Tuesday. Yeah. So they put him in the hospital, moved him
Starting point is 00:02:33 instantly up to admitting they did some tests and decided he needed to double bypass. He had a heart attack when he was at the hospital, which is the best place to have one. Was it a severe heart attack? No, it was minor, minor-ish, but he, you know, he did need two bypasses. So, this is like unbelievable timing, though. I mean, three, three, three. It's the magic number. It really is. That is, okay. So, wow, thank you, Holy Spirit is what we say.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Beautiful. So he went through surgery, you know, after, you know, I mean, they had to, it was terrifying few days. He is out of the ICU today. And he's upright and sitting upright and walking and talking and complaining. Um, he doesn't like the food. He was watching Chinese TV last night going, well, maybe I can learn a language while I'm here. Yeah, that's what that's what Jay, Jay, that texts him. He says, yeah, he's, they had him up walking, which is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Um, and he was eating and he and he says, he was watching Chinese television because he wanted to learn the language while he had some time. I'm like, okay. And he's, uh, you know, his colors get better than it's been forever, because I, like, guess, you know, he's... This must have been going on for a while. Yeah, probably. It's been progressively going on. And, you know, he's on his way to recovery.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I mean, he still is very hoarse from having the ventilator. But he's himself. Everything's intact. And he can't wait to bounce me off the show. So you got... Indeed, you know, so, so Mimi and I've been talking over the past week. and we're like, well, what are we going to do because this could be weeks? It could be, we had certainly no idea before he was up and eating yesterday,
Starting point is 00:04:38 which is very encouraging. And we're like, well, people are not going to stick around for best of shows. It's okay once in a while. And I have to say, thank you so much. So many producers, of course, stepped up, sent him best of shows, which will all be used eventually. That was just phenomenal. But we saw the, you know, this is a family business.
Starting point is 00:05:01 This is a two family business, really. And we've been family for over 18 years. I mean, I met Jay when she was 14 or 15. You know, now she's married and, you know, and doing all kinds of stuff for the show. It's just amazing. There's your dog. Yeah, sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:05:20 No, that's okay. That adds color to the show. So we really, you know, of course, I said, hey man, Darren O'Neill will jump in, Larry will jump in, Mo will jump in, the no agenda, millennials will jump in, everybody will jump in. But that just feels wrong, you know, it's like, ah, it doesn't. And then you said, well, here's how you, you brought it in a very interesting way. So, you know, we're very creative, we'll come up with something.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I mean, I will come up with something. I was, I was shaking me, me. This hit me harder than I thought, actually. I'm like, oh, you know, I always thought, well, one day, you know, it'll just be me and be okay. And then it's like, wow, that, it was very, I mean, I'm not, John is in, in a year and a half, he's going to surpass my longest relationship, which was my first marriage. So, you know, and it was really, I'm glad, you know, a couple of, Tina included, but a couple of you say, how are you? And I'm like, you know, when I said, how am I?
Starting point is 00:06:22 well, yeah, actually, I'm pretty shook up by all this. Yeah. And then you say, well, I could do the show with you. And I'm like, now, first of all, you did the intro with me on Thursday. And I listened back to it. I'm like, you've got a great voice. You've got a great mic presence. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah. Well, please say it like that. And I said that and Mimi says, well, you know, I used to be a model. I said, oh, yeah, pictures or it doesn't happen. Whoa, smokestack. Smokestack. I showed that to a few friends, sorry, had to. They're like, what?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Devorak doesn't deserve her. Man, that's, okay, all right. You were a model when? Is this early 70s, that picture? Yeah, well, that picture was when I was 17. So, yeah. Yeah, I've had a checkered past. I was a theater kid before that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So, you know, this is all fine. Acting? Yeah. Well, that and improv. And I was the emcee of a dinner theater that was all improv and skits. Well, and so, and Mimi's like, yeah, we can do stuff. And, you know, we can get some clips together. And I'm like, okay, well, you know, and you said, well, you know, a lot of the stuff John talks about comes from JC anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And I'm like, hold on a second. Are we hearing that half of Dvorak is really coming from the family? Is this coming from you? What's going on here? No, our family is really, we're all kind of competitive intellectuals. That's the only way I can put it. We talk about the strangest things. We all have our specialties, me, food and additives and food and clean eating and all that good stuff, among other things.
Starting point is 00:08:18 and I read PubMed on a daily basis, and I read legislative bills. And I'm a news junkie, but not mainstream media. And J.C. has his interest, and Jay has hers. And, you know, Eric has his. And we kind of are always trying to top each other and bring new topics. And so there's a lot of stuff going around our family all the time. So, yeah, John has his own take on the world.
Starting point is 00:08:47 and he has a different viewpoint and he's way more history-oriented and, you know, financial trends and all that. I don't care. That's stuff I don't care about. I have a different bent, but there are things that I will force him to talk about because I think they're fascinating. So this morning, so this morning I sit down and I'm like, or maybe it was last night. I say, okay, well, if you have any clips, let me know and send them to this email box.
Starting point is 00:09:17 there's like 16 clips come in like all perfect i haven't listened to them because i'd never do that uh except i just check one for levels perfectly clipped they look like they're all the right length of time i'm like are you do you do clips for john too i mean something's going on here no i well i use audacity anyway because i do transcribing of old um i've done a lot of transcribing. And a lot of times, like, people will give me old cassettes that I have to transfer over because they're in such bad shape. And I have to up the toes. Kids, you have to understand. Back in the day, we had these little plastic boxes and it had these two wheels in it and there was a magnetic tape. And that's how we listened to things and we recorded things. And that was known as a cassette tape.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I just have to tell everybody. Because, you know. And the cassette tapes, there are many different formats, different makers and all of them are different and they all record at different speeds and they all have different. So you have to have all the different players to get the information off or you have to somehow download it and then use audacity and clean it up so you can actually transcribe it. It's a process. So, and then also I've got the podcast studio in Port Angeles, which I still haven't used, but I've learned how to do everything. Yeah, I told you what to get. You know, I gave you the equipment list. You got all that. Except, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Go ahead. The Rhodes podcaster, blah, blah, blah, blah. The roadcaster, yes, blah. The roadcaster, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Is not trivial to learn. Sorry, I don't have a background in that stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's okay. I'm writing a book about this stuff about how to set up a podcast studio. Okay. Yeah. Now, probably the funniest message I got, because people responded so, so well. And this, I'll just have to read this one verbatim. After hearing Mimi, I'm going to ask you a question again that I've mentioned more than once in the past. Please don't react emotionally. Just consider. Are you sure John is not CIA? Mimi sure sounds like his handler.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I am definitely not CIA. Well, you do have a fabulous background. And you and I, You and I talk a couple times a year, mainly it's about taxes, but we wind up talking for about an hour about all kinds of stuff. And then already just in this short week, I've learned a couple things that we're going to talk about. And one thing that I learned yesterday, I want to talk about right after this clip. The clock, it runs our lives. And when it jumps ahead or behind an hour every six months, it messes with us. Daylight savings time disrupts your biological rhythm. Kay Lewis leads the youth group at her Barrington Church and worries about the sleep-deprived kids coming in Sunday morning. If I had my druthers, I'd go to daylight savings time and I would stop right there.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Stay there year-round. Dr. Philip Cozy monitors sleep charts as part of his work as director of the Sleep Center for Edward Elmhurst Endeavor Health Hospital. He says losing an hour of sleep may seem insignificant, but studies prove other. wise. There are significant implications with respect to mood disorder and suicidality. Cozy says there are also studies which show a big increase in heart attacks, strokes, depression, and fatigue in the days after moving the clocks forward. State Senator Darby Hills is co-sponsoring a bill that would allow Illinois to do away with daylight saving time as a neighboring states get rid of it as well. Even just an hour of sleep can make a big difference and a lot of people have to change their
Starting point is 00:13:07 their whole routines, you know, evening daylight, evening daylight time will allow people to be outside, be with their families, helps mental health. I just start trying to pretend. And one must pretend their way into this new rhythm, right? Fake it till you make it. The Daylight Savings Act of 2026 would compromise making daylight saving time permanent, but only changing the clocks by a half hour. All right. Illinois is obviously nuts. Change it by a half hour. But I, but I, but I, but I, said this to you last night. I said, just remember, because that's the only time John has ever been late is one time when daylight savings time changed. And so I thought I'd just remind you as a courtesy and you said what? I don't change my clocks. I just stay on daylight savings time and just subtract an
Starting point is 00:13:58 hour. I can't stand it. So I just gave up on changing the clocks. So it's fine. Does your, but your phone changes, doesn't it, automatically? Yeah. Yeah, I have no choice there. But why change? I've got, you know, grandfather clocks and, you know, clocks on the wall here and there. And it's like, ah, it's only four months. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So BC, BC Canada has just announced that they're changing permanently to daylight savings, which will be very interesting because Washington had already passed a law that said that they, although it hasn't been enacted yet, that we're going to stay on standard time. Yeah. So it's just, it's stupid. I mean, I just think the whole thing is dumb. The worst thing ever was when I worked, I worked graveyard shift and you'd go in the, it would be great this time of year because you'd work seven hours and get paid for eight. But the other time of the year, the clock would roll back at two.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And you'd go, oh, great. It's a nine hours. No overtime. So where did you work graveyard shift at the club? No, I, I had a, I worked for a master's. charge when it was called MasterCard. And I worked swing shift and graveyard shift there on a regular basis. I like the swing shift better.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What were you doing? Like answering people's calls? What exactly do you have to do with master charge? I took lost and stolen card reports for the seven Western states. And then later I moved into the fraud desk where I arrested people over the phone using stolen credit cards. Did you, is the citizens arrest? What was that?
Starting point is 00:15:36 No, it would be the mission had call in and I'd go, hey, let me talk to the customer. And then I'd start flirting with them while my partner called the police in the area. And then the police would come in and arrest the guy. This was in the 70s. They don't do this anymore. But yeah. And then we'd go to court and testify against them. It was a goofy, goofy job.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But it was fun. Yeah. It's so nice. It's so nice to hear about other jobs that DeVorak has done. I think we've heard almost all of John's previous jobs. Already we know that you were you are arresting people over the phone. You were a theater kid. You worked in what was the, what was it, vaudeville?
Starting point is 00:16:22 What were you doing? Well, I was an emcee of a dinner theater. So. Okay. Yeah. Now, according to the newsletter, thank you very much, Jay and you as well. Again, the DeVorex pulled together, put together a great newsletter. chock full of memes and, of course, a fantastic donation drive.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You know, John is always saying that, you know, people want to donate. They really do, but they always like having a reason to donate above and beyond the value of the show, which is why we have PhDs and doctorates and different types of campaigns that we do. I never thought that he would pull this one. You know, this is like, whoa, but, but you guys immediately came up with the give John a reason to live donation. I was like, you, you are a, yes, you are competitive intellectuals. There you go. Competitive intellectuals.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Right. And it was just, yeah. Well, we, we are back, Jay and I are back office. You know, we do everything that needs to be done that John is, you know, John's talent. He doesn't have to do these things. Oh, and do you tell them your talent, don't worry about it? Oh, yeah. Oh, goodness gracious.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That must inflate his head so much. Your talent, don't worry about it. I don't get that here, by the way. I don't get your talent. Well, see, I've worked, you know, I've been with John since like 82, and, you know, I just jump in and do things because someone's got to do stuff. And, you know, John's an essayist. He's not a book writer. So I would help organize the books and get those things in shape.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And, you know, there's things that I do better than he does and things he does better than I do. So it's that kind of partnership. Working together and being married is challenging. Yeah. So, so, you know, that's the reason I live in Washington State because I like, I don't like living in the Bay Area and because I have a million animals. It works better. And, you know, we talk and I come down on a regular basis. You know, we do have family time and we go on vacations together when we do that.
Starting point is 00:18:36 When's it last time you went on a vacation? I don't like to go on vacation. Wait, wait, do I hear a bird now? First I heard the, now is what is that? Oh, that's my macaw. Oh, okay. Just. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It's a little different than the sirens going across the Bay Bridge. Now, how are you doing, Mimi? Are you, how are you feeling? Are you okay? I mean, it's, you come across like, oh, it's no problem. You know, John's in the hospital. but come on, this is, this has got to be a bit of a shock. Well, I, I, I wasn't, the other job I had is I was the first EMT in Oakland.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It was before EMTs. I was an ambulance attendant in Oakland. I was the affirmative action hire. So. A chick, a chick. Bring the chick in. Oh, yeah. And, you know, because of that, I kind of compartmentalize.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So I will break down in about a year. You know, I ended up with post-traumatic stress from that experience. experience. And I've learned how to handle it and how I handle it is by not thinking about it, not dealing with it and dealing with what needs to be done. And then I'll be the one who's just a basket case, you know, six months from now, a year from now. But it's fine. It works great. Now, are you going to come down to the Bay Area for the recuperation period? But if you don't mind me asking, what, what's the plan? Do we have a time? Do we even have a timeline for John getting out of the hospital yet? He should be out in a week. By the end of the week, probably.
Starting point is 00:20:00 he's going to stay with Jay and Brennan because their house doesn't have a million stairs and because he needs people with him 24-7 and we'll probably get a visiting nurse as well. I have to unhook my... Get a hot one. Get one of those hot ones. I'm hoping to. Oh, actually, I wouldn't mind getting just some big...
Starting point is 00:20:19 Dude. You know. Hot dude. Okay. Yeah, I got you. So I have to unhook my life from Port Angeles because I do things. I'm not, I don't just sit up here. I have things going on. So I will be down when I'm absolutely needed once I get everything taken care of here. And I get my macaw farmed out to a friend and, you know, my parakeets.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I have parakeets and the cats and board my dogs at my kennel. Most of my dogs, two of my dogs come with me. And then I will go down and make his house ready for him to come back to it because I have to put in handrails and a bunch of things. And I do the house maintenance. You're going to allow him to stay in San Francisco? I mean, is it not time for him to give up that Godforsaken place? No, he likes living there. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He likes it. It's not, you know, we've talked about it off and on, but my house is too cold, full of too many animals and just. It's a mess, I tell you. I don't want to be around all that. Well, I am constantly doing renovations here and stuff. You know, it would drive him nuts. It's fine the way it is.
Starting point is 00:21:37 He'll be happy to get back to his independence. He's an only child. He really likes his, you know, not to have somebody underfoot all the time. I will be down for like a couple months and get him until he is in good shape. And then I will, you know, return up here and then keep, I'll probably be down every, every three weeks. So I'll just drive a lot. I'm really good at driving I-5. Is there any view yet on how long it will be before John can return to the show if you and I allow him?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Well, first he has to get, not be hoarse. No, John is incredibly driven and stubborn. And I think he'll be sooner than later. What? What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 00:22:25 What? No, you don't say. And I've, of course, talked to all of my friends who've had bypasses and I've grilled them, you know, incredibly. And probably, you know, I'm hoping three weeks. Okay. Two weeks, two to three weeks. You know, he will do it before anything else. We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And we might have to ease him back in. Whatever. We'll figure it out. Yeah. But he wants, he's, he's, he wants probably for me to apologize to all the listeners that he's not there. And yet they have to listen. to me. He doesn't, he doesn't like this idea, does he? No. Because. Because what? Because what was the alternative? Darren? Come on. I mean, no offense, Darren. I love you, brother. No offense.
Starting point is 00:23:15 No, he's, you know, John is John is John. It's fine. You know, we'll get him back as quick as we possibly can because I got other things to do. Yes. Exactly. Yes. It's a win-win for everybody to get him back. Oh, absolutely. So what was I going to say? No, I guess you've kind of answered the questions. I mean, it's good. I'm so happy you're here. And, you know, Tina and I were talking about it when you suggest it. I'm like, you know, I think it's kind of, she's like, this is a great idea.
Starting point is 00:23:51 She says it keeps it in the family, keeps it with the Dvorak, you know. And she's met you. You met her. And she's like, Mimi can talk. You just might have to rein her in if she keeps on going. I said, I'm not too worried about that.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Now, here's the thing as we kind of slide it, because we're going to do a bit of media deconstruction. This I did not know of all, in more than 18 years. You spent time as a child in Iran. Yes. I was there in 1966 when the Shah was in power still.
Starting point is 00:24:22 My dad was a Marine. He was called back. He was a Marine engineer. always. We lived in Reno. He always kept up his licenses. So when the Vietnam War cranked up, he had the choice of, he was called back to service. And he didn't, my mother was totally anti-war, so he didn't want him to go to Vietnam on munitions ships. So he took a job on the Persian Gulf, on the Glomar North Sea, which was a drilling rig. It was a boat that was converted to a drilling rig. So my mother and I relocated to Iran and my dad would get two weeks on, two weeks off. So I arrived
Starting point is 00:24:59 in Iran as like, you know, I was, you know, six in sixth grade and, you know, 10 years oldish. And it was a very interesting experience because I, you know, we were you in Tehran? Tehran, yeah. I'm sorry, Tehran. I got to get the right pronunciation. Tehran, Tehran, yes. And it's Iran, not Iran. Yes, thank you. Well, we know it's Iran. The show knows this, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And we stayed, originally we lived in a hotel. We were in the Sina Hotel, which was a beautiful little place. And it was a block from the American Embassy. And we stayed there for maybe two months. And it was a CIA hotel. Oh, of course. Yeah, of course it was. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And you knew this at the time as a sixth grader? You knew this is a spook spot. I didn't know. Well, we also had economic hitmen in there. I didn't know what they were until later reflecting on it. There were a lot of finance guys. There were CIA guys. There were also a lot of people that I couldn't understand why they were there,
Starting point is 00:26:09 but they were like, I think they were also CIA, but there's two types of CIA that I found. The ones that'll tell you, yeah, I'm CIA. And the ones that go, oh, yes, I'm doing special work on assignment here. Yes, I've worked for the embassy. And there are the, different ambassadors would come through too. And by the way, I hate embassy kids. No offense to embassy kids, but.
Starting point is 00:26:29 No, they're usually, when we moved to Belgium, Christina went to the international school of Antwerp. Yep. And after two months, says, dad, I want to go to Belgian school. I speak enough Dutch because it's Flemish, but says, I hate these kids. Same thing. She's like, oh, they're annoying. you know, they're, and also they're, they're broken. You know, they're just broken from the life.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Well, and my easiest way to sort kids out was I'd go, how do you like hose water? And they'd look at me with this look like, what are you talking about? You mean drinking from the hose? Of course, hose water. Hose water. And I'd go, see, you've never lived in America. You're not really an American kid.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But, you know, living, so the CIA guys, very interesting. I mean, you know, I got, I didn't know what CIA meant. And my mother and dad got really, you know, friendly with a couple of guys. As a matter of fact, my mother wrote some of them forever after that. And one of them in particular would invite my mother around the country to accompany while my dad was out, you know, back on the rig. And we would go around the country so he could, that's the only way I saw all the tourist spots. I went everywhere in Iran. I went to all the major cities because we'd go with him. And, um, You know, and we'd go and we'd see museums and we do this.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And every time he'd go, well, you know, I'm, if I'm not, I'm going to go see a man. And if I'm not back by a certain hour, a car will come for you. And then he'd also say, yeah, well, if anything, if I use this one code word, you guys need to get away from me as fast as possible. Wow. And I always thought, this guy's just nuts. What was the, do you remember the code words? No, they changed every time.
Starting point is 00:28:14 You don't remember any of them? That would be so cool. One of them was, I think I need a glass of water. It was things like, it was really weird. It was like really stupid or go get me a Coke, you know, Coca-Cola. But it wasn't until later when I, because I've been writing down my different memories. Oh, your memoirs. My memoir, yeah, sounded like a good idea.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It dawned on me that we were the beards to make him feel. fit in better because, you know, here's a guy with a goofy kid and, you know, American woman. And we were probably in danger the whole time because two years after we left, he was killed, he was gunned down on the Iraqi border. So, yeah, it was like, he was interesting. It was also interesting that when I was there, and I never understood this, the Peace Corps were there and they were building tennis courts because that's what they saw wanted. Because that's what USAID does.
Starting point is 00:29:14 That's how we roll. Yes, tennis courts. So, and, you know, a lot of things about Iran, Iran was, at the time, you know, it was all Western dress. It was very modern. It was kind of interesting. Yeah. We also went. Was that the day of like the miniskirt, not miniskirts, but above the knee at least?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. I mean, I've seen pictures, you know, look modern. Everyone's rocking and rolling. They're smoking cigarettes, having a good time. Yep. And, you know, it was, there were a lot of people. I mean, it was lots of classes. Like since we were Americans, clearly we were in the upper class. And that was beautiful. But there were also, you know, shopkeepers slept in their shops. And then people were, there were a lot of very poor people. There were people living in tents out. We lived on the edge of the city near the, we lived close to the American school, which the time was at the edge of the city. And there were people living in tents. There were goat herders that would come by. You know, all the people that I hung out with, you know, our contemporaries all lived in houses with big, tall walls.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Everything was walled. It was, but I did learn about, lots about other religions because Iran was full of other religions. I mean, it was like, you know, there were Jewish Iranians, and they were Christian Iranians, and there were Muslim Iranians, and there were Zoroastrians still. Would you say it was predominantly Muslim or not at all? No, no. It was the most, and it also. Also, Muslims don't come in one flavor. True. I mean, you know, there are as many different, almost as many divisions of Muslim as there are Christians.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah. So, you know, and it was, there was a huge difference between the Sunni and the Shias. And they kind of don't get along, I've heard. I'm reliably informed. Well, there are also branches of the Shia. Like there's the 12th, the 12ers that's what the Shah was. You know, there's, you know, there's, there's so many, there's reformists, there's, there's extremists. They're just like Christians, you know, there's.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Yeah, this is what people in America don't understand, particularly in Texas. There's so many people freaking out right now. It's intentional. It's, I'm pretty sure it's a Republican. Let's all, you know, gather the wagons and vote for us, propaganda. That, you know, the Muslim, look at all these mosques. The Muslims are taken over. be just like Europe. I'm like, I don't think so. And it's bad, too, for the very reason you just said,
Starting point is 00:31:48 like there's Muslims and there's Muslims. Right. But the more extremist of the Sunnis really do believe the only way that they will achieve Muhammad coming back is by Armageddon. And killing the infidels. Yes. Yes. Armageddon. Yeah. So, but meanwhile, there's a whole lot of guys. there's non-denominational Muslims that are just like our non-dominations. They're like, yeah, whatever. You know, there's people who just identify culturally as Muslim, but they aren't really practicing just like there are Jewish people who are, just like there's Christian people who are.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So that is, we don't teach, we don't teach religion in school. Anything. Anything. It's pathetic. We don't teach anybody anything. Yeah. So, I mean, that's kind of like. So you've seen the country change over decades.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Have you kept up with it? Oh, yeah. I bore John to tears with it. And I love Tusi TV, who actually is an Iranian living. Yeah, yeah, John's played clips from Tusi. Yeah. I love Tusi. Well, that's because I absolutely adore the guy.
Starting point is 00:32:58 He's a little, he's had too much coffee, I think. But he talks really fast. But he gets really good clips. He really does great reporting, and it is not the reporting we're seeing. You know, and the fact that what we're seeing is just such nonsense. It really, yeah, I'm always rantic about it. Since you brought clips, I'll let you play some, because I see on the list you have some Iran clips. I do.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And actually, one of my favorite would be, it's, it's, I'm not sure what I named it. It's the CNN Iran. Oh, the propaganda clip? Oh, absolutely. Here we go. Break for a coffee along the way. We've been driving for several hours. There's a couple of things that we've noticed. Number one is that, first of all, all the shops
Starting point is 00:33:51 are open. All the shops are really well stock, even with fresh things. Like, for instance, fruits and vegetables. Coffee, obviously, also available as well. And then also the gas stations. There's no long lines as gas stations. Fuel seems readily available. And you just don't see. any sort of degree of panic anywhere.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Okay. Is that not true? He's out in the middle of nowhere. It looks like for all I know, he's in Nevada. By the way, that's Frederick Plightgen, who said that he had permission to be there, which means it's from the, you know, IRGC. Oh, okay. What makes me so suspicious of the whole thing is if you go the Internet Iran, March 6th clip.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Let me see. Yes. Internet Iran. Okay, this sounds like an AI voice, but it's, there are, this was just the best source for the information. So as bombs, so let's hear about, sorry. Go ahead. That's okay. Let's just, let's just talk about the internet.
Starting point is 00:34:51 So here. As bombs, full and tensions escalate, millions of people inside Iran are facing another crisis, a near total internet blackout across the country. Iranians say they suddenly lost access to the internet. leaving them unable to contact family members, red news updates, or share information about what is happening on the ground. Internet monitoring organizations report that national connectivity collapsed to just a tiny fraction of normal levels, effectively isolating the country from the global internet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:26 So was this guy from CNN taking up all the bandwidth? You know, I had a Starlink or something. Who knows? No, Starlink's not working either. That's just it. They have a total ban. And it's like, you know, it's like, and what they, there was no point to this. It was just like pure, oh, everything's great. Well, it is. It's great. But I can't first, it's just like, what kind of nonsense is this? What kind of story is this? Well, they have, yeah, because they have no reporting, obviously. And, and it's very possible that it's actually much better than we think. I mean, it, it seems that we don't know any.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Anything. Breaking news, nobody knows nothing. It's like, were there really 32,000 people killed during the protest? I don't know. I mean, it's just a number that popped up. And some say thousands, some say a lot. Some say 32,000. We just don't really know. Well, that actually from different Iranian reporters outside of Iran who've been getting, some people go to the border and to send off broadcast. I mean, they risk. their lives to send off, you know, little clips of video and all that. So from what I've watched for the last, you know, 30 days at least on 2CTV, is that these, the targets are very specific. We aren't, we aren't just, you know, carpet bombing the country. We are bombing. Surgical strikes. Yes. Yes. My favorite word. And at the same time, during the protest, which were amazing to watch, and there was a lot more video of that because the internet was still working in Starlink was there. You know, people were rounded up.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I mean, people were just shot on the street and the bodies weren't. You couldn't go get, try to retrieve your family. You'd get shot doing that. I mean, the crackdown, you know, the IRGC was brutal. It was brutal from the beginning. And actually, I do have a really great, to put Iran in perspective, the best quick history I have of Iran is a clip by Kaysen, and I don't know how to say his last name, but it's... A Sidu, maybe.
Starting point is 00:37:35 As he do. You're right. He's this, he's got a substack and he just did the best rundown of the history of Iran to give people a perspective. Sorry, I'm jumping the gun. We're getting used to each other. We're getting used to each other. I'm sorry. Okay. So there's part one and two. And then we have a really good summation, which I think is the third clip. So if, however you want to do that. All right, one. Iran wasn't always a place where women were forced to cover up. The government killed its own people. and kids sold kidneys for food. It used to be a thriving democracy. Then Iran's prime minister tried to nationalize their oil to take it back from British corporations. The CIA and the Brits didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So in 1953, they helped overthrow him and replace him with the Shah. Basically, a king. The Shah was controversial. So in 1979, liberal college students led a revolution to overthrow him. What they hoped for was freedom. What they got was the Islamic Republic. The Republic executed thousands of political prisoners, including those students. In 1979, they held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Night after night, they paraded our citizens on camera and tortured them off camera. We took that personally. Now, you need to understand this about the Islamic Republic. They aren't rational, geopolitical actors. They are religious fanatics who welcome death. Their constitution lists their Messiah, a figure who disappeared. over a thousand years ago as head of state. They believe he will only come back at the end of the world,
Starting point is 00:39:10 so that's what they want. That's why they fund Hamas and Hezbollah. That's why their terror network has launched attacks in Europe, Muslim countries, and killed Americans worldwide. You know, I've always wondered when CIA and MI6 put the Shah in, did BP regain control of the oil? Have they just still been in control of it, or was it truly nationalized?
Starting point is 00:39:33 Do you have any insight on that? It wasn't nationalized, but they split it so that Iran got 60% of the profits and BP held 40%. To this day, as far as you know? No. Once the IRGC came in, they nationalized the oil and they mostly sell to China and Russia. Okay. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yes, we know this. We know this. So, and actually, if you go, Kaysen does the second part, which is gives you a really, it's kind of, it's just a nice little summation of that. It's the last part of that, that one clip. For them, all roads lead to Armageddon. They aren't logical.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They're ideological. And you can't negotiate someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into. For the last two decades, they've pursued two weapons to contest the West. nukes and terrorism. Obama got them to agree not to build nukes for 15 years in exchange for removing sanctions. But that gave them more money, which they gave to terrorists instead of their citizens. Then Trump removed the nuclear deal and put back sanctions. That gave them less money for terrorists, but push them toward nukes. You don't want war, but you also don't want them getting nukes, right? But how do you prevent the nukes without risking the war? And if they get the nukes,
Starting point is 00:40:55 Does war find you anyway? Do you keep playing nuclear poker and hope that they bluff for the next 20 years? Or do you flip the table? If you were the president, what would you do? And what would you realize about them if they tried to kill you? Like they tried to kill Trump. Now, does Israel benefit from this? Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:12 That's what happens when two countries share an enemy. You don't need to trust Israel to see that. Look, we're not saints. We're acting in our interests. But our interests and the Iranian people's interests are aligned. And what we did to Iran was rock. Now we have a chance to make it right. Why do you think it is that your dog, what's your dog's name?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Moose. Moose. He's a Philip Brasselaero. Yeah, he's a killer dog. The ones that'll kill you if you look at him wrong. Why has no American president done what is happening now? I mean, there's been a lot of talk. They've had all kinds, you know, they've kept our diplomats hostage.
Starting point is 00:41:51 There's just been so much going. Obama gave them money. You know, pallets of cash. What do you think, why do you think no president has ever done what is happening now? Well, Jimmy Carter made the big mistake of thinking that, oh, it's a religion. We need a religion buffer to keep the communists at bay. He never, he didn't, you know, I mean, he was a guy from the South.
Starting point is 00:42:15 He had no idea. A peanut farmer, as we called him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With his smart brother, whatever his name was, Bill. beer. Billy. Billy. So we made a mistake then. He kept saying, well, I've asked them
Starting point is 00:42:30 nicely. I've asked them nicely. And it's like, you know, people are holding your embassy hostage and you're asking him nicely for 400 days. It was a mistake. He didn't back the Iranian people. He didn't save them. He trusted what the IRGC said, what the Ayatollah said. So since then, I think, I find it really weird that, you know, at the same time, both Iran and China and Russia got involved with Venezuela. You know, so they basically put a base in access of operations in our backyard. And then Biden opened the border, wide open border. Well, I can't make, I can't make sense of any of this, you know. it's like, I think our presidents were acting against us.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And I think, you know, I tend to be, I'm not strong on, like, I believe in George Washington's final thing where, you know, it's country over party. I don't, I don't care one way or the other who the president is because he's our figurehead. but we've had some very peculiar things going on for the last, you know, since Obama. Well, I'd say that that is mainly because of China. And because if you look at what's happening now, I'm not actually having a clip later on, China was getting tons of oil from Venezuela and lots of oil from Iran. And they were trading it in Juan.
Starting point is 00:44:19 They weren't trading it in U.S. dollars. Always a mistake. Just ask Gaddafi. Big mistake. And they also, you know, had committed $400 billion equivalent to $400 billion into all kinds of tech, including military tech. Yep. And to me, it seems like, okay, here's this, here's this country, or here are two countries who are undercutting the oil price, which for, it's just not good.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I mean, you can't have a world oil trade if you got these big actors doing all kinds of stuff. And at the same time, I think it is in America's interest to curtail that. Well, there was another aspect to that. China was also controlling the canals. Right. Both the Suez and, you know, the one in South America, you know, controlling the shipping ports and controlling the canals and also controlling, they have many, many container ships. So, meanwhile, our maritime has really kind of fallen off.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I mean, everything's under a foreign flag now. We don't even make ships? Do we even build ships anymore? I don't think so, hardly. I don't think so, yeah. And, you know, we are, it's China, Russia, who are really behind all these crazy things going on. And we are at war with them, whether we know it or not. We're in a Cold War.
Starting point is 00:45:41 So let's play your third clip and then I want to play some China stuff. Okay. But you know what else no one wants? The Islamic Republic, which controls Iran, slaughtering tens of thousands of its own people. The Islamic Republic, which has been playing a game of nuclear poker with the world for two decades, nothing for another too. Hamas, which hurt both Palestinians and Israelis on October 7th,
Starting point is 00:46:05 continuing to receive money and weapons from the Islamic Republic. There will never be peace in the Middle East while the Islamic Republic is in power. And who was this guy? Is he a YouTuber? No, he's got a substack and he does a substack video sometimes. Oh, it's a level up from YouTuber. In my opinion, yeah. I love substack because this is where I get all my news now.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And it's amazing what's going on around the country. I mean, this is all hyperlocal. This guy has a really good take on the Middle East stuff. He's just fun to watch. And I watch and read him on a daily basis. I have some reactions from the U.S. regarding what's happening, but it was interesting because I've been looking for what I found from W-I-O-N. Yes, I had to go to the Indian News Service. And they see it very clearly, and they just say it exactly what's going on. Two months ago, the United States captured the president of Venezuela. At present, it is fighting an all-out war with Iran and has already assassinated.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Supreme Leader, Ayatollali-Khamene. While America's stated objectives are different, these moves are increasingly being seen as an attempt to target one of its chief rivals, China. Now, how is this linked with Beijing? Essentially, United States has targeted two countries, that both shared China as their most important crude oil customer. Overall, 17% of China's oil came from Venezuela and Iran last year.
Starting point is 00:47:42 For instance, China became the main importer of Venezuelan oil after Trump imposed sanctions on the country's energy industry in 2019. Last year's data indicates that 55% of Venezuela's crude oil was exported to China. And as per reports, around two-thirds of Chinese oil imports from Caracas go to independent refineries, known as teapods, were willing to flout sanctions in order to purchase crude oil at China. sharp discounts. Without America, now a certain control over oil sales and revenue of Venezuela's oil, China's imports are set to be impacted. In case of West Asia, Beijing stakes are even higher. Half of its oil imports are from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, UAE, Kuwait, and Oman, which transport their crude oil through the Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And interesting to note that word came out of Russia, I think three, maybe four weeks ago, that Russia was considering selling their oil in dollars again, which is interesting since they've been kicked off of Swift, but there's other payment rails they can use. Wyand continues here with some details, and then the timing of this is interesting. Last year, it purchased an average of 1.38 million barrels of Iranian oil per day. On the whole, it brought 87% of Iran's crude oil. This accounted for more than 13% of China's oil imports. This works to Beijing's advantage, as refiners reportedly get a discount of $8 to $10 per barrel on the purchase of Iranian oil.
Starting point is 00:49:27 What threatens China even more is the ongoing situation in the Strait of Hormuz, with the IR. G.C threatening to attack any vessel that passes through it. This might cause a devastating impact on China. China has now broken its silence on these speculations. When asked about the hindrance of oil supplies to Beijing owing to the present geopolitical situation, China's foreign ministry stated that the country will take all necessary measures to ensure its energy security. This also assumed significance in the backdrop of U.S. President Trump's upcoming visit to China. In March, after a gap of eight years, remember, where he will meet with his counterpart, Xi Jinping, trade is likely to be top on the agenda. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Hey, gee, we got your oil, man. What do you want to do? You want to play ball with us finally? Or you don't want any oil? This is, this is, I find this to be very interesting. And the only other person I found who has figured this out is a huge Trump hater. and that is Anthony Scaramucci. Whatever you think of Trump, okay, and I think he's a despicable human being,
Starting point is 00:50:38 perhaps one of the most evil people I've ever come in contact with in my life. He's trying to cut a deal. Can you explain to us why you think Trump went to war in Iran? I think ultimately it has to do with a broader chess match that's going on with China. And so if you really just step back, you're getting the oil from Venezuela, to China. You're getting the oil from Iran to China. And I think this is a broader chessboard move. And it's not really just being run by him. It's being run by what I would call neocons. This is the great irony because the president ran on no more forever wars. But this is the directive of neocons.
Starting point is 00:51:21 This is something like the late Dick Cheney, if he was around, he would be so happy right now. There was no exit strategy. There was no refugee strategy. There was no evacuation strategy. for our embassies. This is military adventurism at its finest. But I can tell you the strategy is let's kill off all theeocrats and find a secularist and let me see
Starting point is 00:51:43 if I can bribe him to do what I want. And so where Trump is actually pissed off, he's not saying it, but I'm no Trump. He's pissed off at the Israelis because they keep killing everybody. Okay, so they killed 40, 50 people. And Trump's like, what are you doing? I'm trying to find the guy that I can bribe,
Starting point is 00:52:00 okay, to settle this thing. down and bring them on our side. You see what's going on? And so he's mad at them because you have diverging objectives between the Israelis and the Americans. And again, in fairness of the Israelis, because of what the Iranians have done to Israel and Amos is supported by them
Starting point is 00:52:17 and all this stuff, they want to put a hurt on all these people. But Trump doesn't want to. Whatever you think of Trump, and I think he's a despicable human being, perhaps one of the most evil people I've ever come in contact with in my life, he's trying to cut a deal that will move the Iranians out of the access of Russia and China. I mean, he loves Putin, but he's really more focused on putting a hurt on China.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I think Scaramucci's right. I think Trump is pissed at the Israelis because they do keep killing people. The fact they have a... Well, we're in the middle of a global power reordering that started in 2014. which were disrupting the international order that was put in place after World War II. And it's been eroding. It started with Putin invasion of Ukraine, the Russian interference in 2016 election. And that really did happen.
Starting point is 00:53:14 China's aggressive expansion to South China, the military buildup by China, across Africa and Latin America. China controls all the shipping channels, or they've been trying to. You know, it's a coordinated strategy to displace America as the dominant nation. Yes. So, you know. And I think that Trump, if I just look at it objectively, and we'll get to the Israel thing in a second, if I look at it objectively, I think he knows the midterms a loss. I mean, historically, statistically, it's a loss. There's also a lot of Trump haters in the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:53:54 He's pretty sure he's not going to make it. He's not going to make a house and a Senate. Maybe the Senate still. You don't even know. I think he's just going. He's like, okay, I got to do all of this before the midterners, before the impeachment, before all the nonsense. All I can do at that point is executive orders and vetoes. I have a mission.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It is in his mind, certainly an America first mission. And I think I agree with it. It goes completely against what people think he said. No forever wars. Well, we'll see if this is a forever war. And I think that's what's going on here. And he probably wants to wrap it up before July 4th so we can have a big celebration. I don't know if that's going to work.
Starting point is 00:54:35 But that seems to be what's going on here. See, I really detest the entire, you know, again, country over party. You know, since when do news people and people on the main media, why do they constantly come up with things like, oh, is a despicable human being? Really? I mean, come on. You know, the guys, he's got a lot of kids and his kids are all decent. He doesn't have a Hunter Biden in the group. You know, the whole thing about, oh, I know him.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And, you know, the anti-Trump stuff is ridiculous. You say it often enough. Of course, people will believe this. I think he's just like every other president. He seems to have a bigger worldview than a lot of presidents. I mean, I personally, I'd probably equate him to Nixon when it comes to comprehension of of of of the whole world playing field what people forget is all these these these protests that show up are not organic they're not real protests they are funded by outside agents
Starting point is 00:55:40 to stir people up oh yeah well no it's no agenda nation knows this yeah yeah and you know this but it's like this constant i can't listen to any of these newscasts without hearing the you know oh he's despicable oh i know i know know him. He's horrible. You know, I know what he's thinking. You know, it sounds like a crazy girlfriend. You know, the crazy girlfriend that's like, you know, you know what you did. You know why I'm mad. You know, you know. I mean, I'm just finding that to be, why do we have this? And what's the counter to this? Well, okay. So the only counter I see is the no agenda show because I've been watching watching Tucker very closely.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And, you know, he's convinced that Israel dragged us into this. And I want to get to that in a minute. But he was on, he did a, I don't know if it was on his podcast. And Seagar came on his, you know, Segar, when he used to be on the hill. And this was fascinating because he was trying to convince Trump to not do this and went to see Trump.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And he literally has taken on the view of the mainstream media, that Trump is just watching Fox News all day and only cares about people who say he's good. As I said, I flipped to D.C. three times in the last month to try to convince Trump not to do this. It happens. I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, boy, this is not going to get better. So then I think I'll fly up again and ask him. I mean, I don't know if anyone else is doing it. So I'm going to try to just declare victory and go home. Like you killed an 86-year-old cleric.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Let's just call that a win and then pull back. And so then meantime, he got convinced to denounce me. Okay. I don't care. I'm going to fly up anyway. Denounce. Right? Even though he's like denouncing me.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So I call over there to see, you know, call someone who knows him to see. I said, I'm just going to fly up anyway and tell him this because I think it's so important. And the person says, don't bother because he's being shown polling that this war is like a 90-10 win for him. And I said, I don't know where that polling is coming from. It's like, you know, I guess you can make any kind of poll. And it's, he's watching Fox News, which is telling him the same thing. And he's getting fake polling. I guess they're only polling Sean Hannity's viewers or something.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And so I'm not sure that there's a sense as if this was yesterday, because I was getting so agitated and worried. I don't think that there's a sense that this is unpopular. Like I think there's an information vacuum here. Okay. So then Seagar comes in. And again, their heads are only with popularity. with polling, and they truly believe that the president is only thinking about that, has nothing else in mind, and Sagar makes it even worse.
Starting point is 00:58:30 There's a massive information vacuum. And, you know, for the president and the administration who declared victory based on internet and vibes and podcasts, let's take a survey, shall we, of every podcast that he appeared on. And how do they feel about the Iran conflict? You can look very clearly for yourself. Who cares? You can look at a lot of the polling of that same demographic, which they were very excited about, young men in particular, how are they feeling about this conflict? And, you know, if you were saying 90-10, it's not even true in the Republican sense. I mean, the latest one that I saw was like 72% Republicans, which, by the way, Mr. President and everybody in the administration, Bush had 93 for Iraq. And how did that turn out for him? So let's not put, you know, put all of our eggs in the basket of just because Republican voters are here, that this is all going to be like sunshine and roses. And I also would not make the spurious claim
Starting point is 00:59:19 that it's all about Iran. It's about conflict. impounding effects. The gas price effect of the Iran conflict is going to be dramatically more important to the White House's political chances in the midterms than anything that's actually happening on the ground. I don't think it should be that way, but that's reality. And I do think also, you know, your inclination to get him to try and declare victory, that's the correct move from a strategic perspective and economic perspective, from every political perspective. You don't want the entire country's national discourse focus on Iran. These guys are only thinking about politics, only and about, you know, partisan politics.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So, yes, go ahead. Well, that's just it. The partisan stuff, I mean, is just disgusting. It's like, okay, you know, gee, are you for the Raiders or the 49ers? You know, I, it's this nationalism doesn't exist. what we have are two parties that are warring against each other. People who I have known for decades are like, well, I can't talk to you because you're MAGA. Oh, people that have been John's friends for decades won't even talk to him anymore.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And not because he's MAGA is just because he's not anti-Trump. Right. Which, again, that is, you know, how can you look at the whole picture, guys, you know, it is a, you know, it is a much deeper. There are so many moving pieces and all our media does is dumbest down. Well, I mean. Yes and no. I mean, so what has been going on for a long time, three years now, but it had been bubbling under for a long time.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And it was a per, it's almost like it was perfectly orchestrated. Israel controls America. That is what we all have been led to believe because APEC has a lobbyist for every single representative, every single senator, and they control it all, and they blackmail everybody with Epstein stuff. I actually looked up how many other groups have a lobbyist for every single representative and every single senator? Who do you think is the biggest lobbying group that outranks APEC almost 10 to one in money given to representatives to their re-election campaigns? Well, I have a different view. Tell me who.
Starting point is 01:01:46 National Association of Realtors. Well, Biggest lobbying group have a lobbyist for every single representative and senator. Next in line, American Medical Association. Same deal. Next in line.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I mean, the NRA comes way down at the bottom. Next in line, American Bankers Association. And then a huge lobby from AARP because old people are an important voting block. So that's, that, meme has been created and has just been enforced.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And then, oh, well, look at all the Jews in Congress. They outranked their numbers by population, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So when Marco and I, and this put me, set me back for a second. I wish we could have talked about it on Thursday, but, you know, John had to do something else. Thanks, John. Rubio came out. Edson said something about how this was started, why it was started. and everybody's, my X timeline was everybody spiking the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You see, you wrong, the Jews dragged us into it. Israel did it. And here, this is a clip from France 24. They have the best overview. And then I want to give my take on this because I've looked a little further than just APEC. When Donald Trump ran for president in 2016, he ran on a promise to extract the U.S. from so-called forever wars, like those in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But in just the first year of his second term, Trump has launched military operations in seven different nations. And the U.S. is now engaged in its largest military conflict since the invasion of Iraq in 2003. A recent poll by Reuters showed that just 27 percent of Americans approved of Trump's actions in Iran. And while 55 percent of Republicans approved, some cracks are emerging in Trump's MAGA base among supporters. who say the war goes against the whole idea of America first. Marjorie Taylor Green, who resigned from office after clashing with Trump over the Epstein files, wrote on Twitter, I did not campaign for this.
Starting point is 01:03:57 This is not what we thought MAGA was supposed to be. Shame. And Eric Prince, the Trump backer and founder of Blackwater, said in a post, I don't see how this is in keeping with the president's MAGA commitment. I'm disappointed. Other Republicans reacted with outrage after U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio provided this rationale for taking military action in Iran. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action.
Starting point is 01:04:19 We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties. Republican House member Thomas Massey from Kentucky wrote, the administration admits Israel dragged us into the Iran war that's already cost too many American lives and billions of dollars. Tucker Carlson, the right-wing influencer who the Atlantic report met with Trump in recent weeks, try to convince Trump not to be pressured by Israel.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Carlson telling Trump, you need to stand up to Israel or else you're going to be destroyed and the country is going to be destroyed. Adding Israel is a country of 9 million people with no resources. Why are we taking orders from them? Democrats are trying to seize on all of this, especially with primary contests already underway in some states and in the run-up to the November midterm elections. They're trying to portray Trump as more focused on foreign affairs. and starting wars abroad than solving economic problems at home. Okay, so first I want to play the original piece that, what Marco Rubio said, because when I heard it,
Starting point is 01:05:25 again, I had the same reaction. What are you saying here? And then I had to listen to it again. And then on a hunch, I talked to Rob the Constitutional lawyer, who was a former JAG, so, you know, military lawyer. And so I was, you know, Rubio was a smart guy. So why is Rubio out there saying something that can easily be interpreted as, oh, well, Israel dragged us into it?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Here's what he said. The United States conducted this operation with a fair, clear goal in mind. I haven't got a chance to see a lot of reporting. I don't understand what the confusion is. Let me explain it to you, and I'll do it once again as clearly as possible. Perhaps you'll report it that way. The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran's short-range, ballistic missiles and the threat posed by their Navy, particularly to naval assets.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Okay. So first of all, right there, I'm like, why is he saying that when we have a huge armada down there? The president's been saying, we're coming to help you. We're going to bomb the crap out of them. We're going to get rid of these guys. Now Rubio was saying, saying, you're wrestling a lot with papers, Mimi. Oh, sorry about that. Let me toss that to the floor. Sorry. That's okay. I just want to make sure that you're still with me. Yeah, yeah, I am. And so now he's saying something that sounded technical to me and was only about taking out their short-range missiles
Starting point is 01:06:54 and possible nuclear bomb. That is what it is focused on doing right now, and it's doing quite successfully. I'll leave it to the Pentagon and the Department of Ward and discuss the tactics behind that and the progress that's being made. That is the clear objective of this mission. The second question that been asked is, why now? Well, there's two reasons why now.
Starting point is 01:07:11 The first is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States. The orders had been delegated down to the field commanders. It was automatic, and in fact, it bear it to be true because, in fact, within an hour of the initial attack on the leadership compound, the missile forces in the south and in the north, for that matter, had already been activated to launch. In fact, those already been pre-positioned. Third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties. And so the president made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action.
Starting point is 01:07:55 We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed. And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that indeed. So I listen to this and I'm thinking, why is Rubio saying this or is it just true? And the conclusion shows up in the filings. So if this was a so-called preemptive war where we had just said, we're deciding to bomb Iran, then the war powers resolution would have popped up right away and then Congress would have control over the timeline, 60 days plus 30 days.
Starting point is 01:08:40 days to unwind. You notice that that's not happening, even though, you know, of course, Massey and, you know, they're trying to do it, but it can't happen because the U.S. filed a section 51 article, Article 51 of the U.N. charter saying that we were defending because the Israelis struck, and of course we know the Israelis took out 40 guys in one go. And so we had to immediately defend ourselves. In my opinion, this technical language that, and I check this with Rob, the constitutional law, is like, wow, we got to find out who's doing stuff over there because he said, this is one of the smartest legal moves he's ever seen. So that the president is not hampered by Congress to get done whatever he wants to get done. And that is why Rubio was so specific about it,
Starting point is 01:09:39 Because of course we knew the Israelis were going to attack because that was the plan. You attack and then we'll say, oh, they were attacked. So we've got to immediately counter strike because they're coming for us. And that's how they got away with not having the war powers resolution enacted. They may still try it a little bit, but the Senate already turned it down. So that is why that happened. But the way it's taken is just, it's amazing. Tonight, the White House pressed to clarify its shifting explanations for why the U.S. went to war with Iran.
Starting point is 01:10:16 24 hours ago, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration believed Israel was going to attack Iran first and was concerned Iran would then retaliate against the U.S. There absolutely was an imminent threat, and the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us. and we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded. Rubio's words setting off a firestorm. I find it very disturbing that we are committing this nation to war based upon a decision by even though a staunch ally and I'm a supporter of Israel, but I don't think anybody should drive our decision to go to war, but the interests of the United States. Today, when I asked the president about it, he contradicted Rubio.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Mr. President, did Israel force your hand to launch these strikes against a Iran? Did Netanyahu pull the United States into this war? No, I might have forced their hands. You see, we were having negotiations with these lunatics, and it was my opinion that they were going to attack first. They were going to attack. If we didn't do it, they were going to attack first. So if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand. Late tonight, Rubio was asked to explain what he said 24 hours ago. The president determined we were not going to get hit first. It's that simple, guys. It comes amid growing concern from some of the president's core supporters that he took the United States to war after long promising he would not.
Starting point is 01:11:41 This is what he said during the 2024 campaign. She said, look at him, listen to him. He's going to start a war. Listen to his rhetoric. He's going to start a war. I said, no, no, no. My rhetoric is going to keep us out of wars. So that, I believe him.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I think that's what happened. It's like we set it up. We needed to have the cover so that Congress couldn't stop this because he has to do whatever he wants to do. And Rubio is the fall guy for it. Who's getting bombed currently? I'm sorry? You know, let's look at who's actually suffering from all this. You know, we've got bombs going on.
Starting point is 01:12:22 We've got, you know, the IRGC sending bombs into, you know, Kuwait and into, you know, Qatar and into Saudi Arabia and into Israel. and I think they've had a few go off in Iraq. You know, places, they're just, they're not even guided. I think they're just, and they're not, they're no targets. They're just hitting whatever they hit. So, but meanwhile, when everyone says, oh, what if we get attacked? They can't, their bombs can't get to us unless they had a nuke. And if, if that's what the step of the, of this timeline was, you know, I don't think the, the American people would be told, hey, guess
Starting point is 01:13:03 what Iranian, Iran has a nuke and we have verifiable information that they do have, they've created one that can get to us. That would make me say, yeah, go bomb them. Well, I've been hearing the a nuke next week for, you know, at least seven years, eight years. I mean, that's been an ongoing thing. Maybe, maybe not. But they're pain in the butt. Well, yes, they are. And China and the oil. And no, it had to stop. a real hard time with Tucker being called a right-wing influencer because I think a better right-wing influencer would be Osman Gold. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Your boy, Osmond Gold. Yes. I love Osmond Gold, only because he has some of the best videos I've ever seen. And he's, he's, and he's just completely unvarnished. And, you know, and yeah, we have a lot of, see, I see it from a different perspective. I'm on the bottom. I see everything from a very hyper-local thing. And what I'm seeing is that's going on are all of the money that's coming from through ways you can't imagine.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Such as, and let me back up. So I know you're familiar. This will sound completely off topic, but I'll get to the point. So I know you're familiar with the Chile and C bass. You know it's everywhere. It's in restaurants. I've seen it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I don't know anything about it. Well, it was renamed. It was renamed for marketing purposes. Oh, like like chicken Kiev became chicken keev? Well, more like it's originally known as, its real name is Panagonian toothfish and it is not in the Bass family. It was renamed so people would buy it. The biggest snow job in this country are non-profits.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Because, oh, God, it sounds so nice. I'm in these little ways. You know, they're going to all volunteer. here and they're going to do good things. No, non-profits take government, especially NGOs, take government money, local government from our city level to our county level, to our state level, to our federal level. They get money in them. They immediately set up a couple of other nonprofits that have similar names. And that money goes to lobbyists. It goes to political campaigns. Sure. It goes. So there's all this money and it also goes to podcasts. Podcasters.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Not, yeah, but not the ones you want. Not here. And so what we're seeing is that we're being influenced. We are eating propaganda every bite. I mean, everything that we have is flavored with this propaganda, which is why people who are doing impartial news content are saying, oh, well, he's a right-wing influencer. Oh, well, you know, he's MAGA, and I know what the president's thinking. This is all stuff that should make you just your.
Starting point is 01:16:01 ears turn off and for you to look and find, let's find some other versions of the world because I think it's far more sinister. I mean, the fact that people, the fact that we had a you know, Southwest Flight, you know, 2094 yesterday, that whole incident on there. I don't know anything about it. Ah, I have a clip. Oh, oh, she's got a clip. All right. Okay. Okay. So, Okay. So, yeah, yeah, it's called hands up, heads down. Heads up, hands down, whatever. You'll see. Heads up, hands down. Yeah, I got it. Stand up.
Starting point is 01:16:48 All right. What was that? That was a Southwest flight that was going from Nashville to Fort Lauderdale for spring break. and the SWAT team got called, and that was the SWAT team coming down the aisle. There's a ton of videos. It's funny because people can't quite get it right, whether it's hands up or heads down or heads down, hands up. So they're yelling this. There's four guys that come on in full tactical gear with guns and everything, yelling that.
Starting point is 01:17:30 And then if we go to the Southwest Flight 2094, oopsie explains it. In a statement, Southwest says it acted out of an abundance of caution over what turned out to be a misunderstanding of a customer's behavior and that it apologizes for the misunderstanding and delay. A source with knowledge tells NBC News the incident stemmed from a man who had set a timer on his phone to pray for Ramadan. I surprised this hasn't happened in Texas yet. 80 minutes sitting on a plane while the plane was swarmed and then they took everyone off and they took everyone off. searched all their baggage and they did all this thing. They pulled this guy off roughly. And then he was like, what? What? What? What the hell? I like, I like a source with knowledge. That's, I want to be a source with knowledge. That's what I want. Yes. When did we hear this before? Clock boy. It's ramping up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. Big time here in Texas, big time. You know, it's like, and I have looked it up, but Tina mentioned, hey, you know, there's school. now in Texas who are putting in halal kitchens. I don't know if it's true.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I have an issue with that in general for any type of special food. But it is ramped up. It is really, and I know where it's coming from. It's coming from that whole General Flynn, Defense Intelligence Agency corner. And the whole idea is vote Republican. We will save you from evil Islam. Now, there are definitely pockets of problems, as there are everywhere. But you constantly hear, you know, Plano and Dearborn, Michigan.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Yeah. And then, of course, we have Mondami. You know, he's a communist Muslim. You know, we're not Europe. That took 25 years of open borders for that thing to really. And, you know, now it's like, hey, well, Islam kills people. They rape women. No, that's nut jobs.
Starting point is 01:19:31 It's not jobs. Right. It is. And that's just it. You know, it's like don't, what we're doing is we're ascribing to one extremist group for a whole population. It's like saying, you know, you know, there's some nutty Christians. Who are you talking about? Frederick, Fredericksburg, baby.
Starting point is 01:19:51 That's where we are. The Jesus freaks. That's here. You know, it's like we aren't keeping. We used to be more educated into knowing that. okay, you know, we're talking about some extremist groups. Now, extremist groups can cause a lot of problems. I'm seeing little things popping up on the small things that I watch. I watch a lot of, I read a lot of substack. I watch a lot of YouTube stuff. One of my favorites was Tyler Oliveira,
Starting point is 01:20:21 who I just, I just like his long-form documentaries he does. And actually, I have a clip of him of what just happened now to him that is trying to inflame people. And it's trying to sit. Oh, yeah. It's the whole thing about, you know, he's got a good following. It's been, this thing has been rebroadcast everywhere. It is another one of the, it's a media propaganda push because it makes no sense otherwise. And I'm seeing lots of this happening everywhere. And it's really starting to alarm me. So yeah, let's play Tyler Olivera. It's than 24 hours. That's how long it took for Patreon to delete my account after I uploaded a video titled, I exposed the New Jersey's Jewish, invasion. No warning, no first strike, no option to take anything down, Patreon account gone, deleted overnight. Over the last few years, I've made videos about every group of people you can imagine. Somalis in Minneapolis, Haitians in Springfield, Ohio, corrupt Christian megachurches, Pakistani Muslim gangs in England, incest families in Appalachia, Indians throwing cow poop
Starting point is 01:21:32 at each other, drug addicts, pimps, prostitutes, not a single platform blinked. But the moment I made a video about a Hasidic Jewish community in upstate New York that uses welfare to support families of up to 8 to 10 kids, sponsors pulled out. Old sponsors even called me demanding that I cut out their sponsorship from videos that are two years old. And the ADL even has the audacity to publish an article saying that my video harkens back to age-old anti-Semitic stereotypes for asking Hasidic Jews what they do
Starting point is 01:22:05 for a living and if they're on welfare. How do they afford eight to ten kids? Here's what I've learned. When they can't call you a liar, they attack your name. When attacking your name doesn't work, they pressure your sponsors. When you don't need the sponsors because you have the direct support of your viewers from websites like Patreon, mysteriously, your Patreon gets deleted. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:33 You know, I'm seeing it from the top down. it is all about slanting people's view and assuming that people aren't going to look other places for their news. So, you know, everything that said in the big mainstream media, I can't even, you know, I don't watch TV. You know, I watch everything else. How can you be on this show if you don't watch TV? Media deconstruction, Mimi Dvorak. What is up with that? My focus is hyperlocal. I'm looking at, you know, I think the only thing we can do, we have no control.
Starting point is 01:23:06 over the feds. We have no control over, you know, the state government. We do have control over our county and city governments. And we need to start fixing that because they are just as crooked. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's for sure. I just want to wrap up the Iran stuff with giving Johnson props because he literally said on the show before he he exited the stage for a moment, he said, the strategy here is to keep killing guys who pop up until we get one we like. And it turns out to be true. I think you probably want to speak about war rather than this, but this is very important. This is very important.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And we're doing very well on the war front, to put it mildly, I would say. Somebody said on a scale of 10, where would you rate it? I said about a 15. And we're going to continue to do well. We have the greatest military in the world by far. And that was a tremendous threat test for many years. 47 years they've been killing our people and killing people from all over the world. And I think we have great support.
Starting point is 01:24:13 And I think if we didn't do it first, they would have done it to Israel and give us a shot if that was possible. And if we didn't terminate the worst deal, one of the worst deals ever made, the Obama nuclear deal, I call it the Obama nuclear deal, where he gave everything to Iran. so we're in a very strong position now and their leadership is just rapidly going. Everybody that seems to want to be a leader,
Starting point is 01:24:41 they end up dead. And it's an amazing thing that's taking place. So, yeah, everyone who wants to be a leader winds up dead. And then he's asked, well, who is your choice? He's actually, I think he said, close consultation with me, otherwise it doesn't happen. And then here's what he said. I think this was when he was the German president. Mr. President, what's the worst case scenario that you have planned for in Iran? Well, I don't know if there's a worst case. We have very much beaten militarily
Starting point is 01:25:17 from the military standpoint. They're still lobbying some missiles at some point. They won't even be able to do that. I guess the worst case would be we do this and then somebody takes over who's as bad the previous person, right? That could happen. We don't want that to happen. It would probably be the worst. You go through this. And then in five years, you realize you put somebody in who was no better.
Starting point is 01:25:40 So we'd like to see somebody in there that's going to bring it back for the people. Do you have someone in mind right now? Because you said all the people you did have in mind have been taken out. Well, most of the people we had in mind are dead. So, you know, we had some in mind from that group that is dead. Back to Scaramucci. Yeah, he's pissed at the Israeli. Stop killing guys who might be the guy. And now we have... Yeah. Well, I think it's funny that the way they've been killing them is by bombing them because these guys, because of the whole pager thing that went off a few years ago, they're afraid to use their phones and they're afraid to have pagers and they're afraid to, they have to meet in person.
Starting point is 01:26:21 So they meet in person and then kaboom. Another good, they may be dead also based on reports. So I guess you have a third. way of coming in. Pretty sure we're not going to know anybody. President President of the Conference, Reza Pala Vee, is he an option at all in your mind? I guess he is. Some people like him, and we haven't been thinking about too much about that. It would seem to me that somebody from within might maybe would be more appropriate. I've said that. He looks like a very nice person. But it would seem to me that somebody that's there that's currently popular if there's such a
Starting point is 01:26:57 person. But we have people like that. We have people that were more moderate. You know, these were radical lunatics. And you know what they get? They get nothing. All they do is kill people. So the name he mentions there is the son of the Ayatollah.
Starting point is 01:27:14 No, no. No, no. No, no. It's not Rezi. No, it's not Rezzi. No, he doesn't like him at all. Listen to this report from France 24. Well, there's no name being given as of yet, but sources within the regime itself, which were divulged to one of France 24's Tehran correspondents earlier said,
Starting point is 01:27:36 the man will be the man cited by Satan. Citing by Satan. Carlin self, the Islamic regime, that Satan is the United States, and in this specific instance is Donald Trump. And Donald Trump did indeed mention Mujtabakhamini, who is the son of the late Supreme. leader as the successor. Now, this name has been brooded about quite a bit over the last few days. The younger Khamini, who's 56 years old, was not killed in last week's attack that killed his father and
Starting point is 01:28:13 also his wife. Now, Israel, as recently as yesterday, said it believed he is still alive. Chahmanee is someone who's got quite a lot of support within the Revolutionary Guards of which he is a member himself. He had actually been suggested as a possible successor before his father's death, and apparently Ali Chamini was actually opposed to the son's candidacy because he did not want to return to hereditary rule, which he feared might actually further erode the credibility of the Mullahs in the eyes of the Iranian people. So you go look at this guy. And so he's in the IRCG. He's more moderate.
Starting point is 01:29:04 His dad didn't want him for reasons of hereditary. Okay. But there's some other details that came out. An interesting thing, though, is that last week, on the very day that the war started, Bloomberg carried an investigation that alleged that Mujtaba Khamini had a wide range of luxury property
Starting point is 01:29:25 holdings across various European countries including Spain, Germany and the United Kingdom. Now he's not named as the owner of any of these, but Bloomberg established that he was indeed basically the shadowy
Starting point is 01:29:41 hand behind it. The person who is listed as the owner is Ali and Sari, who's an Iranian businessman who's a property magnet and who was sanctioned last October by the United Kingdom has not yet been sanctioned by either the United States or the European Union. So he could be the guy. He's in the IRCG. He could maybe control them. He's not a mullah.
Starting point is 01:30:06 And Trump likes him. He's been cited by Satan. Yeah. But if you listen to all of the Iranians that are all, you know, Iranian Americans, Iranian-Americans, Iranian-Americans. in the UK, they're not keen on any, any Comani at all. They're keen on having the, you know, the Shaw, the Shaw's son to come back in as a figurehead until they can have a normal election and create a. The so-called crown prince, as they call him.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Yeah. And, you know, he's a nice enough guy. I think he has a good. He's obviously a spook. He's obviously working. working for either us or the Brits or both. Yes, but at the same time, that's what people in Iran have been chanting nonstop now at all of the protests. They're looking for them to come back.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Is it possible that these are protests like the ones we see in America? No, they seem more organic because they didn't have internet when they were still protesting. So there's that. Here's PBS News Hour on Reza-Paw. Palavi. Palavi, yes. President Trump met with the German chancellor today at the White House. We saw him take questions from reporters.
Starting point is 01:31:27 One of the questions he got was who could lead Iran next. What did he say? This was the first time we've heard the president take questions from the press on camera since this strike was launched over the weekend. And now that the Supreme Leader has been killed, there's a question of who's going to lead the country. He was specifically asked today in that Oval Office meeting about whether or not the crowned prince Reza Palavi.
Starting point is 01:31:49 the exiled crown prince, the son of the former Shah of Iran, could lead the country. Here's what he said. It would seem to me that somebody from within might maybe would be more appropriate. I've said that. He looks like a very nice person. But it would seem to me that somebody that's there that's currently popular if there's such a person. But we have people like that.
Starting point is 01:32:14 But the president has also said that many of the other options that the administration, that the administration was looking towards as potential successors in Iran have also been killed now. We heard yesterday from the Secretary of War Pete Hegsa that this is not a regime-change war, so still questions about who succeeds there in Iran. So I think I kind of go back to Scaramucci. Trump wants somebody who can actually get something done and who we can, not bribe, but who we can threaten, like, I will kill you if you don't do what I say, and who we will kill. and I don't think he wants to kill Pilavi.
Starting point is 01:32:50 He's like, I don't want to kill that guy. And Trump does not like him because he said, don't come to Mar-a-Lago. I'm not going to meet with you. I have no time for you. You seem like a nice guy. Trump does not like him for whatever reason. Well, I think, no, he can't just step right in. He doesn't know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I mean, if you remember the Shah of Iran had his secret police known as the Savat. And the Savat were really interesting to see. They weren't that secret. You saw him everywhere. And they were all exactly six feet tall and they all wore those little flat top, you know, police caps and these uniforms. And they all had, you know, Fumanchu mustaches. And they all looked identical. And they were, you know, frightening people. I mean, they were, everybody would whisper about them. You know, don't get on the wrong side of them. Because they were the secret police who would haul you out of your home or they put you under house arrest. The Ayatollah Khomeini was originally under house arrest for many years. And, as a matter of fact, they had the savant would have dinner with him all the time.
Starting point is 01:33:52 He was friends with Ayatollah Committees. So when Ayatollah commuting went into power, he was the first person shot. But the entire Savat was then became the IRC's arm and it got much bigger. Now, the savat was UK and CIA trained. And, yeah, you need to know who the keys are there, you know, because they still exist. So you need to, and, you know, unfortunately, you know, a military like that, it's like whoever's the general sure will work for them. So that's something that the crown prince would have no knowledge of. So it's going to have to be, they need someone for the people and then they need someone who knows all the working mechanics who's willing to change size or to save a skin.
Starting point is 01:34:40 That's the way I look at it. I mean, it's like, and who really runs any country? You know, it's never the figurehead. What? It's all... What? President Trump's responsible for everything. Everything going wrong is his fault.
Starting point is 01:34:54 It's him. He's doing it. Yeah. Yeah. So how'd the country run when we had Biden? Jake Sullivan and all those people were running. They were with the auto pen. We all know how it went.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Exactly. Right. So it's like, yeah. Okay. You're making a horrible point. I don't want to think about it that way. Horrible, horrible, horrible point. Well, I mean, there's more than we are privileged to know because we are just the peons who just provide money for them.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I haven't did view of the world. Oh, by the way, and I'm saying by the way too much. I do want to play this because this is your neck of the woods. This popped up on my radar. I was like, oh, wow. Hold on if I find this clip. here we go. So this is Washington State, very similar to Texas, no income tax, but wait. This crazy taxi. Demonstrators dig in for the final days before a state income tax likely gets passed into law.
Starting point is 01:36:03 We have many counties from Washington State that are here saying this is not what we want. There's other directions we can go. The so-called millionaire's tax would collect 9.9% of annual earnings above a minimum. million dollars. Though some Republicans are certain the income threshold will be adjusted to apply to everyone, not just the wealthiest. They have no intention of keeping it at a million dollars. Passage in the Democratic-controlled legislature seems imminent, and the governor says he will sign it, so opponents are scrambling to introduce some 11th hour amendments. So we still have the opportunity to try to amend it, and it would be skinning it down, shrink its reach. Representative Jim
Starting point is 01:36:43 Walls says Republicans also want to give the public a change. to weigh in. Another key reform we'd like to get on as an amendment is allow the people to vote on the matter. If it does pass, a court fight is likely over the constitutionality of a tax that doesn't apply evenly to everyone. We're here to make it very loud and clear that the people don't want this tax. We've said so 11 times in the last 100 years. Despite the opposition, Democrats say the measure helps balance the state's regressive tax system while offering more targeted relief for working families. So we go now to our source with knowledge of the situation, Mimi Smith DeVorak, who lives in the state,
Starting point is 01:37:22 and I'm sure it has some hyper-local information about this. Well, first, our Washington State Constitution bans income tax. So what they've done now is they backed off and said, well, we won't even take this up until the next legislative year in 2027. So they're putting it off. Now the biggest promoter of this is this lobby group. known as the Washington Association of Cities, which every city, every town, I'm in a podunk town, they all give tons of money to this and everybody belongs to it, are pushing for it. So we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:38:00 And as far as voting, we're all mail-in voting and there's a bunch of nonsense with that. Yeah. Yeah, where's Tulsi? When are we going to figure out all this fraud with mail-in voting? We need to figure that out. So if you want some more alarming Washington News, I've got news you won't get anywhere. else. Okay. So it says Washington News, Biggs. Okay. Our southern resident orcas only eat fish. That's one of the reasons why they're so few of it. Their diet is not very diverse. They eat the salmon
Starting point is 01:38:29 that is dwindling off of our coast. A couple of researchers found some southern resident orca dorsal fins that had been eaten and torn off the animals in Russia. And they believe that Biggs orcas, or non-resident orcas, are now hunting and eating potentially, southern resident orcas, which is amazing because it is thought that the southern resident orcas don't have any natural predators. Wait a minute. So Russian orcas are eating our orcas and we're eating them? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:38:59 We aren't eating them. I know people who won't eat tuna fish because they say, no, no, dolphins get mixed up in it. We can't have that. Dolphins. Well, maybe in this case, I mean, it's like, you know, who's covering the orca war? Right? The orca war. I'll write that one down. Orca War. Hey, how about we, we thank some people because we have an incredible list. As we said, anyone who has a note for John, we will read that note. And we had the give John a reason to live donation. And holy mackerel. I mean, people have just come out in droves. It's so beautiful. I'm not going to do a big, you know, who put the sea and whatever in Orca.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Yeah. But I will take a look at the trolls and see how many trolls. Yeah, 1841. There you go. We're getting back up there. Mimi, you're a fan favorite. You're drawing people in. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Beautiful. Well, I'm not John, but I'll do my best. You're doing a great job. And so we are value for value on no agenda. which means whenever you feel that you got value out of the show. And I think Mimi actually brought quite a lot of value today. And she'll be bringing some more value. And if you'll come back in the next few weeks.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Absolutely. You're stuck with me until John's back. You can do that with time, talent, and treasure. And one of the ways that you can use your time and talent is by organizing meetups. And we do have some great meetups report. Darren and Eli the coffee guy had their meetup in Chicago. But you can also make art for us. And so we want to thank MVP who did the artwork for episode 1848. We titled that one, Podcast are Down.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Everybody knows what that means when the podcasters down. And this was a, I mean, it was borderline grotesque, the picture of the heart. It didn't look like a very healthy heart to me. And the title was, breaking. JCD has a heart. So we appreciated that MVP. That was well done. And of course the treasure. We're going to go to, do you have the list in front of you. I mean, I can just do it. I do. No, I have, I do have the list in front of me, but. Okay. So we'll, we'll do like we always do. I'll start it off with Dreb Scott, Archduke of the Cloud chapters.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Now, he sent this in for last Thursday show. And it was his birthday, March, He says the only day that gives a command March 4th was my birthday. Please add me to the birthday list. So he's added belated today. Thank you for the best comedy podcast in the universe. Thank you for continuing to provide thoughtful commentary on the news. Your hard work is appreciated by many. Please accept my Bitcoin donation.
Starting point is 01:42:01 He sent in $1,234.56 in the Bitcoin. Your hard work is appreciate my Bitcoin donation via strike. In an amount that equals 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. No jingles, no karma. you for your attention to this matter. And we thank you, Treb Scott, that now you take over. Oh, me? Yeah, that's how it works. Okay. You just, just read him. Alexander Gelman. Wait, hold on a second. Where do you get Alexander? Yes, I'm sorry. You're right. You're right. You're right. You got it. You got it. You're on. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:39 That's $1,000. He's from Kutu, Kou, Tokyo. And there's no no. We won't do all the double up carmas because there's a lot of no notes today. Right. So I'll do these three in a row because they all came in with $88.88. Eight is John's favorite number. Mimi and John, share eights. You were married on 888, I believe. At 808?
Starting point is 01:43:03 At 808, of course. Alex van der Hanks, I'll do it in English. Cedar Hill, Tennessee. Brandon Mango in Hannah Verton, Ohio and Alicia Julian Oh, that's part of the Julian clan, Sir Julian.
Starting point is 01:43:21 And Alicia, thank you, Alicia. And she's in Virginia now. They've gone back to their old spookland, I guess. 8888, thank you so much. Okay, so I get, I get to read the long one, thanks. Sir Paul and Dame Heidi Schreiber from Queen Creek Air.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Arizona, 888 and 88 cents. Listener of no agenda and D HN unplugged since the beginning. To say John's absence left of void in all our lives this week is a drastic understatement. Wishing JCD a speedy recovery and sending prayers and all the love in the world to John, Mimi, and their family, as well as Adam and the Keeper. We love you all. Oh, very nice. Dame Catherine, the Crypto Granny of Bangkok comes in with 88888. and of course you did that with Bitcoin. John may have found the perfect way to get a slew of donations. I know this will bring him a smile and we'll know how much,
Starting point is 01:44:18 and he will know how much we all love him. Get well soon, John, Dame Catherine, Crypto Grammy, Granny of Bangkok. Man, we got to do something about the dog on the next show, Mimi, Mimi. Yeah, I know. I was trying to figure out what to do. Why don't you go ahead? Muzzle?
Starting point is 01:44:34 No, I'm going to move him to a different room. Okay. Why don't you go? I will go ahead. The next few. Yes. Barron Husky Bottoms. No problem.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Baron Husky Bottoms. He's in Franklin, Tennessee. Sheriff of Liper's Fork. I thought 828 somehow made visual sense to me as I thought of a double bypass and had John's favorite number in it as well. So I'm suggesting this is a double bypass donation. I think of no agenda similar to any other long-term relationship that one would have. You have ups and downs.
Starting point is 01:45:06 You get annoyed. You take a break. But ultimately, there's a value. and impact on your life that makes you pursue the relationship. I believe I started into 300 somewhere and it hasn't always been easy. At one point, I was so enamored listening to you guys, everything you guys said, adopted your every idea. Not good.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Further down the road, I decided that Adam was a plant by aliens and John was simply entertaining him because it was decent money and he didn't have to leave the house. Oh, it might be true. But with longevity, you realize there's value above and beyond the surface interaction of navigating any relationship. I may not listen as regularly religiously as I once did, and I certainly don't agree as much as I used to,
Starting point is 01:45:45 but Adam and John have added to my life experience, even though we've never met. I'm sure Adam has introed Cinderella's classic. Don't know what you've got till it's gone. I sure have many times. And hearing of JCD's excitement brought some perspective that we don't ever know when the trains are going to stop. I figured now is a great time to say,
Starting point is 01:46:01 thank you for the contributions of thought, humor, and perspective that you've provided me over the years, wishing a speedy recovery from John and hope that this small donation would cover at least two hospital proportioned aspirin. Baron Husky Bottom, sheriff of Lifeer's Fork. Are you back? I'm back.
Starting point is 01:46:18 The dog is now in a her medically sealed room. Nice. In the quiet room. Well, there were about 10 deer in the yard. Oh, yeah. I understand the problem. It just distracts from your lovely voice. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 01:46:36 So where are we? Zarin Denzel. Port Townsend, your backyard. Yay! It is. Did you read it? No. Want me to read it?
Starting point is 01:46:45 Yep. Oh, well, that's Zeran Denzel. Port Townsend, Washington, 777.77. Since I was hit in the mouth, I got used to counting on no agenda twice a week. Wanted to send my best wishes for a quick recovery. Get well soon, John, and thank you and Adam for all that you both do. Jungle for John. whatever you choose.
Starting point is 01:47:07 No, we have no jongles, only jingles. Zander Wallachia, Newton, Pennsylvania, 587, 71 cents. Hi, John, get well soon. We need you for at least 40 more years. Just now topped off my contribution to become a knight. I can't wait. Yes, all nightings will do the title changes, but all nightings will be done when John's back,
Starting point is 01:47:29 so it's official, so you don't feel like he got jipped somehow. And Jay is keeping track of all those. So the next one is Sir Infinitis, I think. Yep. 52636. John, it took a ticker event to trump the sad puppy face. That's what he said. It was a donation play.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Ha ha. No, serious, happy to donate. Please absolve me from being a douchebag. It's been a while. Hold on. You've been deduished. That means a deduishing. It's been a while since my last confession, I mean donation.
Starting point is 01:48:05 I think this puts me either at baronet or baron status. Just let me know and I'll change my title if required. Pray you get well soon. You got this. We love you. Make sure you're nice to the nurses or they will yank on your foley catheter. Signs, Sir Infinitis, the greatest veteran-owned medical device company in the U.S. Jean Harris, Winter Park, Florida, $500.
Starting point is 01:48:31 I'll do the next one since that was an empty one. Sir Zog of Elwood is back with $500. He just got back from the Chicago area meetup organized by Eli the Coffee Guy and Darren O'Neill. Solid guys indeed, and it was a great get-together. It's amazing how quickly no agenda folks bond. John, no exit strategies we need and appreciate you too much, brother. JCD, we're pulling for you.
Starting point is 01:48:51 I'm going to ask for an F-cancer shout-out for Melissa, wife of Sir Brian of the Greenhams. Melissa and Brian, we're pulling for both of you as well as here at the Zog compound. J-CD, get that ticket. rewired and get back into it. I might be behind a title adjustment in regards to donations, but that can be dealt with at a later date.
Starting point is 01:49:14 So I'm holding a second. Where is he? Chris Herzog, Sir Zog of Elwood, Barron of the De Plain River Valley, father of Sir Azog and son of Sir Zog of Elwood. And of course, we have that F cancer for you. Here we go. You've got karma.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Oh, don't need. note, perfect. David Errolanus, Escondito, California, $38.88. and $88. SLC, SLC, SLC, even did a pronunciation guide for me, SLC
Starting point is 01:49:56 with $360.59. This is a Bitcoin donation. Adam, this started out as a hate listen. After something bad you said about Linux audio on Joe Rogan, especially now that we're all completely Linux. It also was a bit of a guilty pleasure due to your mouth. What? My mouth. I'm not sure. What that means? Now full circle, your spirit and your kernel are saved.
Starting point is 01:50:23 John, the maker of all things is waiting for you, draw near to him. His name is Jesus. Over two years ago, a Honda in front of me had a license plate, JCD 3333, and I'm still a douche. One heart attack, and I'm executive producing the next show. Well played, sir. Thank you for your courage. more years. And I will give SLC a deduishing items. You've been de-dushed.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Oh, and they wanted to, we do have that. We have the prayer karma. Let me see. Hold on a second. I didn't have time to prep the whole spreadsheet. Here we go. You've got prayers. righty then.
Starting point is 01:51:13 And a goat scream. He wanted an F-35 goat scream. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Hold on a second. F-35 goat scream. Where is,
Starting point is 01:51:26 here we go. You've got. You've got. There we go. You got it. Okay. So I've got David. Burn?
Starting point is 01:51:46 Yeah. That's burn? Okay, Staten Island, New York. I don't know my glasses on. Staten Island, New York, $3.45.75. $3.75 from Commodore G as well from Cincinnati, Ohio. Get well soon, JCD from Commodore G. And Jacob Schultz, Strasbourg, Illinois, 33.88.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Yes, we see your eight. Or Christopher in Marshfield, Wisconsin, 3333. 33. Thanks, John Adam. Wish me a happy, wishing a happy 50-5th birthday to my beautiful wife, Diane, on March 3rd. With this donation, I will upgrade from Earl Christopher to Duke Christopher,
Starting point is 01:52:25 accounting attached. Yes, your title will be recognized today. Trevor Gregory, Irvine, California, 333.33. One of my least favorite donations only because I always get lost when I'm putting it on the deposit slip.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I love the first. 333s. In fact, we got a few in a row. I know. I know. I see that. So I'll run through those. Morgan Medlock in Tacoma, Washington. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina, Sir Erudadarian, Tribucco Canyon, California, and Robert Rock, Eagle River, Arkansas. And then we have Noonie,
Starting point is 01:53:02 Noonie on eBay from Austin, Texas, 333333. Dearest John C. Buzzkill, I do believe we'll be back to work sooner than you will like, wishing you a quick, smooth recovery. with zero drama. All the best from the best vintage gold jewelry seller in the universe. Noone, that's N-O-O-N-I, on eBay. Jonathan Ferris, Liberal Kansas, $33, $3.33.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Jason Lewis from Macon, Georgia, 333. He says, get well soon, but can't wait to hear the funny anecdotes and read the book on Double Bypass Tips after you finish the vinegar book. Good luck. Love you since Tech TV. So broken up with this, I forgot to say that my 333 donation, made me unite. Sir Jay Lou of Macon Town of the Dead Bugs, he will
Starting point is 01:53:47 be knighted when John is back. John praying continually for you, your family, and your doctors, may they perform the procedure skillfully. May you, your family and your friends know peace and comfort through this time. Adam, praying for you too, that you would be supported, patient, and nice to our favorite
Starting point is 01:54:03 Buzzkill. I predict record donations. That should put a smile on John's face. I love you guys. Thank you very much, Jason. A Lois Lebel, Newark, Delaware, 33. Jeff Hodge, Lynnfield. Oh, this is Australia, New South Wales, 3-201. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Sir Mike, 44, from Bethalto, Illinois, $314. In the morning, thank you for your courage. Happy anniversary, Mahadi Mob on Pi Day. The tale is almost complete. This is being sent early as JCD is taking the exit strategy to literally. I curse John with 99 years in a day. Jesus loves you and you know and knows your heart. Sir Mike 44.J.R. Not BS.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Rob. Oh, there he is. Speak of him. Rob the constitutional lawyer, Spring Branch, Texas, $300 and 88 cents. He understands how it works. Y'all, please accept my JCD PayPal donation of 388. Mimi, my family has personally seen the miracles of modern heart surgery. I promise you. Everyone will be surprised at how quickly John bounces.
Starting point is 01:55:12 It's insane. John, we're all thinking of you and your family here in Texas. And just to illustrate JCD's manliness, please play the no sweat off my balls. I think I think I have the sweat off my balls. Yes, okay, we have that one. And what else does he want? And wash your hands.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Oh, goodness gracious. Wash your hands. I don't know if I have that one. anywhere wash oh yes uh no i only have an end of show mix i don't think we have that one as a jingle uh please credit this donation to my wife the beautiful maggie who says rob the constitutional lawyer it's no sweat off my balls and wash your hands yes and wash your hands exactly exactly okay so the next two are both three hundreds it's derrick winky from clarkston michigan and edward husky from Oakland, California, my old hometown.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Sir Commodore Mark Bendikowski checks in from Warsaw in Poland. Getwell, JCD. I'm praying for you with $300. And Scott Napier from Madison, Wisconsin, also $300. He loved John. Adam is clearly lost without you. I am, but I feel kind of safe with Mimi. Ooh, that's fun.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Sir Sala Hauser, Melbourne, Florida, $300. I feel the need to donate again as I fell victim to the no agenda PayPal Cabal, claiming to have lost my last note. So I was compelled to send another donation. Well played, y'all. Jingles, any collusion and answer the question. Go. Any collusion?
Starting point is 01:56:57 I think the other one is an Ask Adam, and I do have it somewhere. Any collusion? Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Will he know? Oh, really won't? I don't know, but here we go. Ask Adam.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Ask Adam. I don't dare. Answer the question. Go. Yeah, there you go. Sir Keith, Fayetteville, Arkansas, $250, our first associate executive producer. He says, get well, John. Get well soon, John. Sir Keith of Vietnam. And then there's Mark. Blailfeld. Baleavelt. Haddam, Connecticut. 250. Get better soon, John. The world needs you. Brian Massey checks in with a Bitcoin, 200, well, not a full Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:57:41 $250. He says, ITM message income from Brian Massey, praying for JCD. Stephen Theron, Stony Point, Alberta, Canada, $233.85. Brandon Baldwin, Mantis, what is, how do you pronounce that? Mantica. Mantica, California, 2333. Mantica means lard. Lard, as in, like, Crisco?
Starting point is 01:58:08 Yeah, no, like Lard. Yes, Lard, not Criscoe, Lard. gotcha. AJ Northfield, Minnesota. 222 and 69 cents. Get back to work soon. Four more years.
Starting point is 01:58:24 AJ. AJ. AJ, sorry. Jill Price, McKinney, Texas, 222 and 28. In the morning, John and Adam. It's been a long time since I've sent a noteworthy donation, but John, nearly dying to get us to donate,
Starting point is 01:58:37 kind of guilted me into it. Yes. I believe I reached Damehood quite a while ago, but couldn't find the time to do the County. Well, it's finally attached, and I would like to be named Dame of the Fairweather Friends as I sometimes fall off the listening wagon when you are John. Don't say what I want to hear. Sorry, but we all have our faults. My donation is not a row of ducks. It's four twos to make eight, and then another eight since eight is John's lucky number. Please give all of my karma to John. Get better.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Thank you both for all you do. Other than Jesus, you are the only two people I can listen to keep me saying. By the way, Adam, I love you, but please learn how to pronounce Coliville, Texas, and Valparaiso, Indiana. I butchered it two in a row. There's Joe Price from McKinney, Texas. And what did she want again? She wanted just a karma for John, so we'll throw out a karma.
Starting point is 01:59:27 You've got karma. So the next few are $22.22. It's John Davis from Brentwood, Tennessee, and Gregory Lambert of Overland Park Kansas. And we have Sir Gordon Walton. Gosh, he must be a Duke by now.
Starting point is 01:59:50 He's in Austin, Texas. His whole family has no agenda titles. Roe of Ducks 222, associate executive producer, again for you. Edward Knowles, Green Valley, Missouri, 220. And this is a switcheroo for his smoking hot wife of 28 years
Starting point is 02:00:06 who hit him in the mouth a couple of years ago. Since then, we've never had to talk about we've never had more to talk about and we haven't had a fight since well of course not the people who know agenda together stay together thanks very much to you both her birthday is march 27th if you could please add her to the birthday list make sure you email us again so we get that on the birthday list it's not easy to keep track of it that far in advance i would be much it would be much appreciated if you play her favorite ISO i got aunt well he's asking for two things in a row I got ants and fisting nuts.
Starting point is 02:00:43 I can actually, we can actually do both of those. Let me see. My favorite one is I've got ants too. Yeah. You don't like the fisting nuts? It reminds me in my youth. Just go for it, John. Tell us your not going to touch that.
Starting point is 02:01:02 I'm not going to touch that. I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying. and I think it were a result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of him into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist around the nuts. Around the nuts.
Starting point is 02:01:24 And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop. To the little hole. And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist. From his fist. Then he does it again. And he shakes and throws and shakes and throws.
Starting point is 02:01:41 It is annoying as hell to watch. There we go. Ants and nuts. Congratulations. We are here to serve. There's a PS. Yes, praying for a speedy recovery for John. Heart emoji.
Starting point is 02:02:01 And then there's Sir C. Pound sign of dot net. Sir C. Sharp. It's sharp. Okay. I don't know. It's a program. programming language.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Oh, no, that's over my head today. It's 21060. Get well soon, JCD. I have passed the threshold for baronet. May I please have my title change. Thank you for your courage, sir C sharp of net. Dot net. Dot net.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Yes. C sharp is the programming language. Dot net is a horrible Microsoft products. But don't email me. La Jollaure Salt.com from La Jollauga, California, $210.60. Please read as from La Jollaurell.com. The world is a better place with the man who traded ties with Detective Wojahowicz. Wojahowitz in it.
Starting point is 02:02:54 What? Bring it home, Buzzkill. You're on our prayer chain today and we'll back on the podcast soon to come, Godspeed. From La Jolla, salt.com. Sir Don, Wyndham, New Hampshire, 208, 88. Get Better, John. Don Viscount of the New Hampshire. Anne E. Graff in Granville, Ohio, $208.33. No note. I'll take the next one. Lucas from Vienna.
Starting point is 02:03:17 In Austria, here we go. John, I just heard the news and made an instant donation, $201. Living in Austria, I always feel bad for people in the states who have to deal with high medical bills. Since this is my first time donating, I'd like to dedicate this contribution to your upcoming medical expenses. I wish you all the best and hope you're back on your feet and behind the microphone as soon as possible. I really hope your recovery goes smoothly so you can enjoy some of your good wine again soon. If you have a favorite Austrian wine, let me know. I'll mail it to you. I enjoy your stoic perspective on the world and I love how you can turn Adam furious with just a few words. Even though your purely American way of viewing things irritates me sometimes, I don't want to
Starting point is 02:03:59 miss listening to you for another 200 episodes. All the best. Lucas from Vienna, P.S. I wish for the China asshole clip. I have that one. How does that work when, hold on, let me do the China is asshole. There we go. China is asshole.
Starting point is 02:04:18 How does that work? John has Medicare? I'm praying. Yep. Yep. He's got Medicare. So is this all taken care of? Nope.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Nope. Resounding nope from Mimi who clearly does the finances and the family. Yeah, it'll be about 60% that they pay. Oh my gosh. We get to pay the balance.
Starting point is 02:04:37 Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it's fun. So how do I turn you furious with a few words? I'll have to work on that. You know, you got to, John has it figured out. It used to be much easier. Now I have Jesus. So it's much harder to get me mad.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Okay. I'll work on it. Okay. Please do. Michael Turek, Post Falls, Idaho, 288 cents. Sir Dixpert, St. Paul, Minnesota, $200. $0.8. First, prayers for a speedy and full recovery.
Starting point is 02:05:08 JCD has at least four more years of no agenda, if not longer, we hope so. Second, I request the title change from Baronet, Sir Dixpert, Satcham of Dudes name Ben, to Sir Dixpert, Baronet of the Blank Stair. I've been out of IT for 18 months and I'm not going back ever. Thanks, Sir Dixpert, and you're on the list for the title change. Matthew Gebhart, Highlands Ranch, Colorado, $200 and one cent. And we have, the big ones. A scent is always good.
Starting point is 02:05:37 West Spears in the Woodlands, Texas, that's a New Houston, $200. ITM, John and Adam. I'm helping a friend with a business idea. He needs some collateral to approach investors. I reached out to Linda Lupak and at ImageMakers, Inc.com to assist with this. We ended finding that a different approach to the developing this information and its structure is needed. But she took time to review the material and provide valuable feedback to get this point. that was of meaningful, that was meaningful, I guess.
Starting point is 02:06:06 And I wanted to provide some value back. This donation should be credited to Linda Lou. Big thanks, four more years. Wes. Oh, that's very nice. Adrian Fabian, Linwood, Washington, $200. And you get, you definitely get this next one. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Where am I? Linda Lou Patkin, 59. Oh, thank you. Linda Lou Patkin says, jobs, Karma. For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, she just heard about her, go to Imagemakersink.com. Linda applies executive level positioning to career transitions at every stage. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, writer of winning resumes. All the best from Linda.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Okay, so two are coming in at $200. It's Stephen O'Connell, Las Vegas, Nevada, and Craig Pratt of Callis Bell, Montana. And Commodore Surface Tension, Night of the Retail Space is in Vero Beach, Florida, $200. No jingles, please, just give me some John Karma. You got it. You've got Karma.
Starting point is 02:07:25 Two more at 200. Nancy Murphy from San Brino, California, and Craig Allen of Sack. Aiton, Arizona. Michael Eager, North Bethesda, Massachusetts, $200. Our last for the executive and associate executive producer segment. Please accept this donation to help with JCD's co-pay. We wish him a rapid recovery. And now we segue to our shameless plug.
Starting point is 02:07:50 We are relaunching the Eager to Be Healthy podcast with the goal of propagating the formula of conversations around health and happiness. Currently, we're in a soft launch and we are asking producers to test out our podcast booking system and become a guest on the Eager to Be Healthy podcast. Please visit Eagertobehealthy.com slash NA and test out our booking system. And if and when the No Agenda community crashes my website, we can be found on X at Eager. Number two, be healthy. Please give JCD health and happiness karma.
Starting point is 02:08:20 P.S. we're working to make the new podcast 2.0 compliant. Very good. That's Mike from the Outer Swamp Meetup. Michael Eager. Thank you very much. And here is the health and happiness karma for John. You've got karma. Wow.
Starting point is 02:08:35 Really nice. All of these supporters of episode 1849 will be, of course, credited. Along with that, the executive and associate executive producerships are real titles. They work in Hollywood. You know, I got a call from our Hollywood big wig from Dana Brunetti. Well, he never calls me. He actually, he said, please give my number to Mimi because we're only, what are the like an hour and a half away.
Starting point is 02:09:04 From me? Oh, no, not from you. No, they're much further away from you. They're about 15 hours away. Yeah, but okay. He said, please give my number. We'll be down there. Anything you need.
Starting point is 02:09:14 We're happy to help out. He actually thought, because he had called John and John hadn't called him back and he thought that John was mad because he had talked with me. I'm like, yeah, that sounds like John. Oh, no, that's absolutely it. That's why John, you know, had the heart attack. Yeah, yeah. He was so upset.
Starting point is 02:09:29 He was talking to Curry. We can't have that. So be like Dana Brunetti and be an associate executive producer $200 or more and an executive producer $300 or above. And of course, we always read your note when you send one in. Thank you all so much for the support for John. Thank you for the prayers. Thank you for the love. We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters, which are quite a list, $50 and above in a second segment.
Starting point is 02:09:51 And again, thank you for supporting no agenda. Go to noagenda donations.com. Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. All right, Mimi, dealer's choice. What else you got in the hopper? Well, I have a James Carville, which I just found amusing, and I thought you might too.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Here we go. But she started attacking white males. And I'm going to say, wait a minute, let's stop. All right? In 19, in 2024, 72% of the people that voted were white, all right? That's just a fact. Of that 72, probably 48% or 48.5 were males. So somewhere around, I did the math on the thing.
Starting point is 02:10:45 About 33% of the people that are going to vote are going to be white males. Well, it's stupid to attack 33% of the voters. Right. He's talking about Elon Omar. Yeah. But I just thought, how'd you get 33%? I couldn't do his math. No, it's Carville.
Starting point is 02:11:02 You know, but this happened in Texas where Jasmine Crockett was running for Senate. and she was running against the heretic, I'll call him, James Tullerico, who reads the Bible and says, yeah, you know, the Bible says it's okay to abort children. Yeah, you know, it's okay. And the reason is because she's a racist and she's like, you know, white people are no good. Well, guess what, Texas? And they're like, we're not voting for you. It's the stupidest thing.
Starting point is 02:11:35 It's the same thing with Elon Omar. Well, yeah, no, absolutely. And that, yeah, she annoys me to no end. The one thing I saw this week that just made me laugh is Steve Daines, who's the politician from Montana. He decided not to run again, even though he's been, you know, representative since 2015. And out of the blue, this old video from 2021 showed up. And it's all about local shopping. A few years ago in Montana, meth was homemade.
Starting point is 02:12:08 It was homegrown. And he had purity levels less than 30%. Today, the meth that is getting into Montana is Mexican cartel. It's no good. You need homegrown meth, people. Wow. Shop local. That's good.
Starting point is 02:12:27 That's good. Which reminded me of the Gnome commercial. I don't know if you watched it. Oh, oh, this. Yeah. Well, you know what, before we do it, let me play the lead into that because this supposedly is the reason why Trump fired her, and this is from NBC. So this news, I think you can say, is stunning, but it's not surprising.
Starting point is 02:12:48 We know the president has grown increasingly frustrated by Christine Nome's performance as the Department of Homeland Security Secretary, most notably after a series of events that took place over the course of the last several days, where she was testifying before Congress. she had been asked a series of questions specifically about the role she played in approving contracts and notably won a $220 million ad campaign that was used to encourage immigrants to this country to self-deport. The senator from Louisiana, John Kennedy, said on that issue the president was, in his words, quote, pissed. During the course of the question, Nome told Kennedy that the president knew about
Starting point is 02:13:26 her decision to approve the ad campaign contracts. You can imagine that did not sit well. with the White House, certainly with the present as well. And so that appears we've been the tipping point in this moment. There had previously been some frustration by the president as it related to known for her handling of the operations, the immigration enforcement operations that had taken place in Minnesota. Yeah. Well, I have actually the clip that is Kennedy asking her the question and her response. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:55 That's no modern commercial. Okay. How do you square that concern for waste, which I share, with the fact that you have spent $220 million running television advertisements that feature you prominently? Sir, the president tasked me with getting the message out to the country and to other countries where we were seeing the invasion come from with putting commercials out that told them that if they were in this country illegally, that they needed to leave, or we would detain them and remove them, and they'd not get the chance to come back to America the right way. Yeah, so you have this commercial? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 02:14:38 It says what, it's WTF Nome commercial. Why do I love these wide open spaces? They remind me of why our forefathers came here, not just for its beauty, but for the freedom only America provides. I'm Christy Knoem. From the Cowboys Who Tamed the West, to the titans who built our cities,
Starting point is 02:14:59 to the dreamers who chase the impossible. America has always rewarded vision and grit. Our greatness calls people to us for a chance to prosper, to live how they choose, to become part of something special. Anyone who searches for freedom can always find a home here,
Starting point is 02:15:18 but that freedom's a precious thing, and we defend it vigorously. You cross the border illegally, we'll find you. Break our laws, will punish you. Harm American citizens, there will be consequences. But if you come here the right way,
Starting point is 02:15:34 your American dream can be as big as these endless guys. From President Trump and me, welcome home. Yeah, I can tell you what's going on here. So she's riding on a horse with a certain amount of cleavage showing and her boobs, of course, don't even bounce. So we know that they're fake. You say that as if that's a bad thing, Mimi Smith. Well, when you're riding a horse, give me a break.
Starting point is 02:16:02 So she's not a hair is out of place. I mean, I know. I mean, I have, I've had horses. I have a horse. I thought you were going to say you had fake boobs. I'm like, no, no, no. No, we're talking. But it's like, you know, horse people don't have every hair perfect.
Starting point is 02:16:16 She's got the little cowboy hat on. She's got this cute little outfit. And she's riding along up in the, you know, out in the woods, there's trees and everything else. And she kind of buries the lead if the message was, if you're here, get the fuck out. Oh, sorry. Wow. Oh, a rare F bomb. All right.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Boom. There it is. Drop it. And for $220 million, I think that was the makeup and hair. And I also think the other part of that is my, is who probably who was part of her campaign and who she is, they're rumored to be hanging out with. And that's, and I have her answer. to the Senate when they asked her specifically about that, and that's no, no answer.
Starting point is 02:17:00 At any time during your tenure as Director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. Yeah. That's not a no. No, well, I mean, so here's what's going on, the way I see it, is fairly serious. simple. I think everyone is just kind of walking past. First of all, I don't think Camo Barbie has been, the show is not a big fan of her. Um, you know, dog, dog shooter Barbie. Yeah, well, you know,
Starting point is 02:17:39 but the point is, so the 220 million, that's obviously not just for the commercial, but it's, uh, for the ad buy is a big ad buy. So the romantic involvement that she calls garbage is well known that she's having an affair with Corey Lewandowski. Lewandowski, I think at one point, worked for Trump on his, maybe his first campaign. He is a former lobbyist, you know, he's a, you know, well, I guess people would call him a failed campaign manager. It doesn't matter. He is the assistant or the deputy secretary of Homeland Security, so as a conflict of interest.
Starting point is 02:18:17 But not having seen the commercial, but having heard it, she's running for president and 2028. That's what she's doing. That's what Lewandowski is doing. And you don't do that without the president's blessing. That's what's happening. That thing was all about, look at me. I'm the female Ronald Reagan. Vote for me in 2028. That's, that's her mistake. Now, she became the, the special envoy, which eventually, when John's back, you will become the special envoy to the know agenda show. The special envoy to the shield of the Americas. And I was looking at what is this, what is this a real job?
Starting point is 02:19:00 And I also think that because of the hearing and because of how Minneapolis looked, the optics of it, they needed blood. Someone had to bleed and she got sacrificed and she knows it. And I'm sure Trump said, look, you got to go. you're toxic and I didn't like that commercial what are you doing no one runs without me blessing it and you're stupid for doing that but I will make you the special envoy to the shield of the Americas which is this new group the president has put together which feels a bit like the board of peace for for the Americas and I have a clip here from the president speaking at the shield of the America's event about Cuba we're looking for
Starting point is 02:19:47 forward to the great change that will soon be coming to Cuba. He sounds like he had a vent in his throat. I don't know what's going on, but it doesn't sound good. Cuba's at the end of the line. They're very much at the end of the line. They have no money. They have no oil. They have a bad philosophy.
Starting point is 02:20:05 They have a bad regime that's been bad for a long time. And they used to get the money from Venezuela. They get the oil from Venezuela. but they don't have any money from Venezuela. They don't have any oil. They don't have anything from people can't even, they land in Cuba. They can't get gasoline to fly out.
Starting point is 02:20:27 They have to leave their planes behind. And they want to negotiate, and they are negotiating with Marco and myself and some others. And I would think a deal would be made very easily with Cuba. But for 50 years I've been hearing, as a little boy, I'd be hearing about Cuba. You know, Cuba's a disaster, but I've been hearing so much about Cuba, but Cuba's in its last moments of life as it was.
Starting point is 02:20:54 It'll have a great new life, but it's in its last moments of life the way it is. But our focus right now is on Iran, and we'll do that. I would say, what will you do? Take about two days off, Marco? No, he won't. Maybe an hour. He'll take one hour off, and then he'll finish up a deal on Cuba. That'll be an easy one.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Yeah, there's another one that's been around since the Kennedy days. Yes. Cuba. So, Christy Noam is now Marco Rubio's secretary. I think that's basically the job she got. I don't know. She's too fading beauty clean for my tastes. Oh, how superficial of you.
Starting point is 02:21:37 Meow. Meal. Yes, really superficial. Please, please. Yeah. Her book wasn't very good either. So. You read it?
Starting point is 02:21:45 You read the book? Yeah, I read about four books a week. What? Yeah. Paper, paper? Do you, is audible or? I do a lot of audible, yes, and a lot of, and I do read actual books. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:02 Huh. And I, some things I skim. She was a skimmer. What? She's a skimmer. What books are you reading right now? You ask me and my mind goes blank. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:22:18 I'll give you a list. Send me the list. I'll do a little bit of tech news for a moment. Good. You know, I continue to be very deeply involved with trying to use large language models, coding with the AI. And it is such a disaster because these things just lie. tell you did something.
Starting point is 02:22:47 You know, it's all about the guardrails. So you have tools and you can tell the large language model to interpret what you want it to do. And it then is supposed to activate the tool and do what you told it to do. So that's pretty much what all these AI companies are doing. Like Google, you know, Google knows how to search Google, how to search YouTube transcripts, lots of other things.
Starting point is 02:23:14 But if you're building something with any large language model, you have to be very careful because it will, if it can't find a tool or it can't activate the tool, it'll tell you that it used the tool. And here's the results because it had it somewhere in its corpus. I mean, it is a nightmare. And the war has been ongoing, and it is a war, between Anthropic and the Department of War. And CBS had a report on it, which I thought was kind of interesting. The U.S. military attacks on Iran were carried out with the help of artificial intelligence tools from the tech company Anthropic. There's no evidence of this whatsoever, but okay. After the Pentagon announced it was ending their partnership.
Starting point is 02:23:55 That's according to the Wall Street Journal. The Pentagon says it has no comment. Anthropic is the company behind the popular AI assistant Claude. The military used a government version for its intelligence and cyber operations, but decided to give it up after disagreement with Anthropic over limits on how it could be used. senior business and tech correspondent, Jo Linn Kent, spoke exclusively with the company's CEO before the United States launched its attacks on Iran. We sat down with Anthropic CEO Dario Amadeh, just hours after the Pentagon's deadline to strike
Starting point is 02:24:27 a deal with the company over how their AI is deployed by the U.S. military. It's about the principle of standing up for what's right. The Pentagon wants total access without restrictions. Anthropic wants limits on mass surveillance. of Americans and fully autonomous weapons. The central question, who should have the final say in how one of the world's most powerful AI is used by the world's most powerful military. Do you think that Anthropic knows better than the Pentagon here?
Starting point is 02:24:59 One of the things about a free market and free enterprise is different folks can provide different products under different principles. Our model has a personality. It's capable of certain things. It's able to do certain things reliably. It's able to not do certain things reliably. And I think we are a good judge of what our models can do reliably and what they cannot do reliably. I was blown away by this.
Starting point is 02:25:26 He's admitting it. He's admitting it. It is unreliable, but it has a personality. I have a substack column. I've got two. but I do my art, you know, with one of the, you know, little AI picture drawing systems. And it's amazing how sometimes you get incredibly detailed, you know, like, you know, the background and the foreground and the foreground and the style and you do all that. And it's, it's, it's okay.
Starting point is 02:26:01 It's not what I want. Other times, even though I do all that, it doesn't understand. Like my favorite was trying to do a thumb on a scale. having just a thumb without a hand. And then it was like the scale didn't have a dial on it. And then the scale had a hand on it. It was like, it just was like, it was like trying to herd a cat. And, you know, it's that.
Starting point is 02:26:23 And then I do a lot of, you know, people are like going, well, you know, instead of reading all the stuff that you read, you should put it in and let AI summarize it for you. And it's like, okay, sometimes it's okay. Sometimes it is just so off the mark. It's like, what was it reading? What do you use for that for summarizing? Well, Claude, I've used Claude. I've used pretty much everything because I just like to play around.
Starting point is 02:26:48 I'm absolutely, I love the AI videos. I mean, I just, I spend hours looking through those. I especially like the cats with guns. Okay. Yeah, I know. It's Soros two cat videos. But, but, but, and I can now, I've mostly. just been doing it so I can see it. And you can see AI just creeping in everywhere. You know,
Starting point is 02:27:13 the commercials it's in, you know, people are using the voices. You know, you can, but it's nice that you can spot the uncanny valley. As far as using it as more than a tool, I think it's like, it's like basically it's giving a two-year-old instructions. You've got to look over their shoulder all the time. Yeah. The worst is if you, if it does something and you want to adjust it, it's impossible. Yes. It cannot, it cannot iterate with you. It gives you something. You might as well just give it the prompt again. And, you know, like, I'm feeling lucky.
Starting point is 02:27:43 Let me see what happens. Darren O'Neill does a pretty good job, though, with his prompting skills. Oh, he does an excellent job. Yeah. Yeah. But it's, you know, everybody is going, oh, AI, AI, AI, AI. And I'm like, how is this different from anything we've had before in some ways? You know, it's like, you know, I thought having a word processor was a big deal.
Starting point is 02:28:03 When I was a kid, we had a typewriter with ribbon. Exactly. Yeah. There's a second part to this. President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegeseth both posted on social media Friday, calling for all government agencies to stop using Anthropics AI, just hours before U.S. strikes on Iran. I think it was made very clear in some of their statements,
Starting point is 02:28:28 in some of their language, that this was retaliatory and punitive. If you had a moment with the president right now, what would you say to him? We are patriotic Americans. We have done. Everything we have done has been for the sake of this country, for the sake of supporting U.S. national security. We believe in defeating our autocratic adversaries. We believe in defending America. The red lines we have drawn, we drew because we believe that crossing those red lines is contrary to American values.
Starting point is 02:29:00 disagreeing with the government is the most American thing in the world. And we are patriots. In everything we have done here, we have stood up for the values of this country. Yeah. This is bull crap. They know that this stuff is no good because in Open AI Sam Altman, he jumped right in. Oh, yeah, no, we'll sign with you. No problem.
Starting point is 02:29:20 We'll take the contract. And then three days later, you know, we shouldn't have rushed that on a Friday afternoon. We need to adjust some of the terms of the contract. It's not for altruistic purposes. It's not because you don't want mass surveillance because you know that it's just unstable. The stuff is not good. Now, does it work for code? I mean, there's software engineers.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Sir Gene sent me a great video this morning. Software engineer, it's just like, my life is over. And not because of his job, but the satisfaction that he would get from creating a product. And I understand this. I see software as an art, how you're, you're coding it a certain way, you're deeply involved, you know, the entire guts of this thing. And sometimes it can take a year or longer to really ship a fully functional product, depending on what it is.
Starting point is 02:30:16 It says, now I just hit a button and it creates a product. And the satisfaction is gone. And what's interesting is that I, as a non-coder, I mean, I understand the concepts. and I've done some Python scripting, but nothing. But I understand systems, so I know what I want and I know what the code has to do. I am getting tremendous satisfaction from shipping a product that is created with AI. So it's kind of shifting that, oh, wow, this is awesome type feeling from guys who used to, who did it for a living.
Starting point is 02:30:51 And it's really, I feel the same with no agenda artists. We had a lot of great artists. They're all gone because they're not, that satisfaction of working for an hour on something or longer, you just don't, it's gone. And that is the, so software is the same thing. It's art. And that artistic outlet is being destroyed.
Starting point is 02:31:20 And it's just what it is. Except. Okay. So my family's been in this country since 1640. My great-grandfather was a shoemaker in Lynn, Massachusetts. Wait. Did he come over on the Mayflower? No, we were a boat after or two.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Oh, one of those nondescript boats. Oh, okay. Yeah, whatever. So my grandfather was the shoemaker during the changeover from the old, you know, the sewing machines to, you know, steam-powered sewing machines, whatever, the automatic sewing machines, from handmade shoes to the machine-made shoes. And, you know, I've read the old, old newspaper articles and all of the, the old, um, editorials about how this is horrible because shoes will never fit your feet right. Things will never be right again. You know,
Starting point is 02:32:11 the world has changed. Shoemakers were lamenting this, this whole thing because, uh, you know, it was ruining the business. Well, new tools do that. You know, they, they replace things. I mean, you know, I'm a, you know, I could type like, you know, crazy person. I, I, I did teletype. I did all that stuff. And first trying to... People are going, what's teletype? Here, I'll give you a teletype. There she is. Mimi Smith-Divorak. She is typing away. She's sending off information on the wire through the teletype. Explain the teletype. People don't even know Michael Jackson anymore, so you might as well explain teletype. The teletype was this very large typewriter that was connected to a transmission device where you could send, it was like they had a modem and everything,
Starting point is 02:33:02 and you could send information across the telephone lines so the other party would get the actual copy of what you were typing. Now, one time, and they were done by mostly Western Union who had the franchises, and they were very hard to, they were hard to push. You had to really push down hard on the keys. They were long travel, exhausting. to use. Occasionally things would go wrong and people would dial the wrong number to get to you. So it was dial up. One time when I worked for Master Charge, we got Henry Kissinger's missives going to the White House. And it's just spitting out and spitting out and spitting out. And it was like, oh my God, it was at night. So we finally called around. We finally just unplugged the machine because we didn't know what else to do.
Starting point is 02:33:47 And we called the local FBI office and explained. And then there was a flurry of activity. And then these two guys came and put it the whole. whole thing into a black suitcase and then they left. I wish I'd read it. I really wish I'd read it. I had time. But teletype, so there was teletype. There was also, you know, I was a key punch operator, too. We won't even go into that. For punch cards? Yeah, I did punch cards. Yeah. Old technology. So, whenever new technology comes, everybody laments the old technology. We all, adapt. We find new ways to use it. And more jobs are created somehow. Always. Yeah. Especially people who could master it early. And the whole Luddite thing doesn't work. I mean, you know, we've come a long way since monks were rewriting the Bible. And, you know, in the Gutenberg, you know,
Starting point is 02:34:47 movable press. I mean, we should embrace it technology. I think that this is good. It's just that it's screwed up because it's in the in the early stages of it. I, I'm still thinking about the teletype honestly. I remember, I remember I did a demo once. Apple, I had an, I think Apple link.
Starting point is 02:35:10 This was before, this was one of the very early Apple computer networks. Wait, was that the link where you put a telephone headset into the reader, the thing? I still have, I still have my acoustic modem thing. you very much from Radio Shack. Yep. I built my first one with my Sinclair ZX80. I built my first acoustic.
Starting point is 02:35:32 Yeah, buddy and I both had, no, that was after the, that was the Commodore, the Commodore, the Commodore, the Vick 20. Vic 20, yeah. And we worked in an electronics store on Saturdays. And so we took home old telephones, pulled them apart, put them in little cardboard boxes. And so you just, you know, reverse the phone, the receiver, you put it on there. And it must have been like 30 bod or something. And I'd press a key and it would pop up on his monitor.
Starting point is 02:36:00 So and it worked. It was very fun. But AppleLink, you could send a telex through Applelink. And I remember demoing this at the place where I worked, Radio Veronica. They had a telex. Of course. You know, they were a media company. And I said, watch this.
Starting point is 02:36:18 And so I dialed in with the acoustic mode. It might have been on my TRS 100 on that. Do you remember the TRS 100? I do. I remember all those, yeah. On, I think it had like four AA batteries, ran forever with an LCD screen. And so you could log in and you could send the teleks. And people were like, how did you do that?
Starting point is 02:36:38 So yeah, it's the future, baby. It's the future. Well, okay, I worked for a Crocker Bank in the online computer room. I was a telecommunications analyst. And we had mainframes and we had minis, which were kind of the in-between. We had Burroughs products. We were an IBM beta test site.
Starting point is 02:36:59 And I had a couple of friends who left to go, because they were big proponents of the micro, the personal computer. I was called the microcomputer originally. And I was like, ah, that's not going anywhere. Who cares? You know, who wants me?
Starting point is 02:37:17 It's like, Tina, famously, Tina, famously. Who would ever want a phone? that they can use on the street. No one wants that. Exactly. So, but so I, you know, and then I, of course, lost my job there for, through a series of events. And, um, I went to work for an early microcomputer distribution company.
Starting point is 02:37:42 So, um, you know, I got to see the Apple one when it was first introduced up on Vicente street in Berkeley. Um, you know, and, you know, jobs was there and, and, uh, Wozniac. Was he was there. And so was Captain Crunch, you know, all these people through the house. Oh, yeah, the freaker, the phone freaker. Oh, yeah. He was just a freaker.
Starting point is 02:38:01 He's still alive. Yeah. And, you know, it was like I kept looking at him. I kept going, oh, yeah. And the people were like, oh, it's going to do all these things. And I'm like, yeah, sure. With switches. Look, you'd flip this switch and that switch and that's going to do something.
Starting point is 02:38:16 This is, okay. Well, enough old people talk. However, on the next episode on Thursday, this is a tease. You're going to tell us a story of how you and John met. Yeah, baby. I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Starting point is 02:38:36 Yeah, I'll know agenda in the morning. I'll just run down the list and I'll go as fast as I can. But where there's a note, I will mention it because people have a lot of beautiful things to say about John. $50 and above. Mark and Renee, Marino Valley, California. John, may God preserve you to the last day. Love Mark and Renee. Dame Gunchit of the Inland Empire.
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Starting point is 02:39:23 Here's elite hacker-speak donation with an extra three for good luck from the Baron of Silicon Valley to support the show in JCD's recovery. Riley in Huntsville, Alabama, 133.33. Just want to thank you all for your courage and give out three douchebags from my brother, Jody. My brother-in-law, David. Dushbag. And my buddy Keith. Dogebag. Donate, you cheap bastards.
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Starting point is 02:42:15 Sir Kaz said health karma. It's both green, so I messed it up. Kenzie had not, Kenzie, all right. Make it right. You've been deduced. John Buell in Vista, California, 100. Then we have Commodore Pumps, who donated 88 plus 88 and fees, and that turns out to 9364. Same from Chris Daly, 9364.
Starting point is 02:42:38 Get well, John. Now we have the 88, 88, 80s. Jeremiah Spiewalk from Highland Park, Illinois, Brenda, McEnough, Danvers, Massachusetts, Percy Grunwald, San Francisco, California, James Treadwell, Driftwood, Texas, Vic Pepe, hello, Vic, from South Lake, Texas, 8888, Dorothy Schrode in Corvallis, Oregon, Jill Price, McKinney, Texas,
Starting point is 02:43:00 Raymond Samori, in Madison, New Jersey, Bobby Jackson, Bluegrass, Iowa, Kelly Tester in Clinton, Arkansas, Issa McCorkel in Anchorage, Alaska. Randy Wallen, Georgetown, Texas. Steve Mann in Plymouth, Michigan. Sir Robert of two sticks. He sent an 8888 PayPal gift for John's quick and full recovery.
Starting point is 02:43:23 I want to add how important and valuable no agenda is to me. He has a long note, but he knows all about, oh, he met you guys at the museum. He met you and Jay and J.C. and The adorable. Yes. beautiful. Alex Lice Cars, I think, Portland, Maine, 8888, Harry Kelly Tate, Covola, that's Florida. Sir Beboop, Night of the Frozen Tundra. Get well soon, young man. Baron at Baylor, Grafton, Wisconsin. John, my family and I are praying for you. I know you'll bounce right back. We all can't wait for you to be bumping the mic again soon. No love and light just yet. And he is Baron Baylor, aka Sir Cameron. Chris. Keith Larson, St. Petersburg, Florida. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is. Oh, he strays from his regular 8-008, or maybe there's another one down the list. He is the ArchLuna, Archduke of Luna, Love of America and Boobes, Concord, North Carolina. Nicole Wehrman, Tualiton, Oregon, Mike Rinnaker, DeBucke, Iowa, Lauren Matthew, Ware, New Hampshire, John Wynn, Austin, Texas, Rachel Rankin, Bettendorf, Iowa, Gabriel Shelton, Pensacola, Florida, Sir Darth Penguin, Lockport, Illinois.
Starting point is 02:44:41 For John the Tech Grout, get well soon. Prayers for you. God bless, with love. Marcella Barden, Monday, Texas. Benjamin Lato in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Christopher O'Rourke, Oak Lawn, Illinois, Amy Mullen, Bastrop, Texas, David Wynn, Rockville, Center, New York. Chris Correvo, Driftwood, Texas, Natalie Taylor, Lebanon, Pennsylvania, Jonathan Denison, Blaine Washington, Michael Raguse in Tustin, California,
Starting point is 02:45:10 Whitney Santos DeLoretto in Boring, Oregon. Morton Kiernan in Congen's Lingby, that's in Denmark. Thank you, Denmark. John Scales in Ocala, Florida. Alex Castellanos in Phoenix, Arizona, Catherine Moore, Austin, Texas, L.A. Z., Philadelphia. Victor Petrovsky, West Orange, New Jersey, Scott Riley, Meridian, Idaho.
Starting point is 02:45:34 Ryan Helling, Galita, California. Kenneth Warford in Gardner, Kansas, Sven Jansen in Round Rock, Texas. Catherine Morton, Charlotte, North Carolina, Walter Hillbeck in Essen, that is in Deutschland. Aaron Chamberlain, Dayton, Ohio, a long letter that he sent, but he goes back to the Twit days and he, of course, wishes John well. Onward to, where am I here? Rachel.
Starting point is 02:46:02 Yeah, Rachel Dragazuski in New York. Julian Barlow in Farnworth in Great Britain. Sir Robert Charles and Baronettus Christina Pearl in Deputy Indiana. The first time Christina Perom at Adam, she told him she'd be more nervous meeting JCD because he's a unicorn. The dream is still alive to meet him. Can't wait to meet you at the next meetup or sock hop. Sir Charles and baronettus Christina. Gerald Preston, Bennington, Nebraska.
Starting point is 02:46:31 Ernest Mosley, Grand Bay, Alabama, John Peters in Lear. O'Lear in Belhiet, Rachel T. Fogletans, mandiville, Louisiana. Ali Miller, McKinneyville, California, Stephen Harle, Harley, and Warrenville, Illinois. Linda Lupotkin comes in with another donation, Castle Rock, Colorado, Bruce Hutchinson, Anthem, Arizona, Aaron Weiss Gerber in Bend, Oregon, Moon Consulting Cameron, Montana, Stephen Corbyn and Woodway, Washington, Matt King, Cherry Hill, New Jersey, oh, the cool people are there. Sky Camp, Earth and Sky Camp, Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 02:47:08 Stuart Fawcett, Liverpool in the Merseyside in the Great Britain. Julie Schuller in New Bromfels, Texas, Joshua Baggett in Fayetteville, Tennessee. John Kumar, London in the UK. Amy Harmon, Billetmore Forest, North Carolina, Jennifer Williams, Davy Crockett National Forest in Texas. Ryan Stewart in Baldwin, Missouri. Paul Erskine, Lake Forest, Washington. Lake Forest Park, Washington. Kenneth Kyle Holtz in Ohio,
Starting point is 02:47:41 Semper Pitchie LLC, and Sherrillville, Indiana. Dave Swanbeck, Johnsburg, Illinois. Tobias Real Estate Services in Gardner, Kansas, Jonathan Elmore, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Ryan Zuckowski in Medford, New York, DVT in Coming, Georgia, Jack Schofield in Yanketown, I think it's Yanketown, yeah, Florida. Christian Sutton, Clovis. New Mexico, Alan Hoffman, Urbandale, Iowa, John Lumpkins, Richmond, Virginia, David J. Langford, Bountiful, Utah,
Starting point is 02:48:12 Zayman Libazzuzsky, New York, Jonathan Hess, Nuremberg, Deutschland, Denmark, Deshajach in Hedenhoyz, Denmark, Daniel Fisher, Gwynn, Michigan, John Hoybore in Bristol, Tennessee, Jason Shepard, Trinidad, Colorado, Gabriel Adams, Newport, Tennessee, John Foley, Chicago Heights, Illinois, Jim Larson, Owen Sound, Ontario, Albert Peter, Jury and Verhey in Dorn, in Utrecht, in the Netherlands. Chris Bolton in Newcastle under Lyme, that's in Staffordshire. Rebecca Flynn, Saunders Town, Rhode Island, Rose Lincoln's, Landisville, Pennsylvania, Aaron Stafford, Pennsville, New Jersey, Kyle Rainey in Wolfworth, Texas, Doug Andrews, Sykesville, Maryland, Monica Sine Figuerski in Rigo Park, New York.
Starting point is 02:49:07 And there's Dame Ashter and Sir Mark. They are, of course, the Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Tokyo and all of the disputed islands in the Japan Sea. And they say, dear John, you are the original chick magnet. Thousands of women have a secret crush on you. We hang on every word that comes over your lips. So get that healing, dopamine spike going and get better soon. I hope Raven comes.
Starting point is 02:49:32 comes to visit, sending you much love and a squadron of kisses from Tokyo. Sorry, Mimi, I love you too. That's Daymaster talking, of course. Valerie Ray, Plano, Texas, J. Rectoric in Weatherford, Texas. Matthew Marlino, Atlanta, Georgia, Stephanie Lukasek in Santa Ana, California, Ben Colbeck in Fitchburg, Wisconsin, Anna Stewart, Oklahoma City, Paul Smith, and Anchorage, Alaska, Kyle Friedrickson and Sarasota, Florida, Michael Kern in Cyprus, California, Marissa Dan,
Starting point is 02:50:02 Fairfield, Ohio. Chad Ferber, Red Hook, New York, Allison Ostrander in Round Rock, Texas, Marilyn Plaza, Garwood, New Jersey, Brian Adelin, and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Severnus Murty in Culpeper, Virginia. Lacey Bird in Becker, that's in Lake Mills, Wisconsin. Julian Erickson, Swamp, Scott, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Susan Erickson, in Burton, Michigan. Frank Laura, in Milford, Michigan. Douglas Radcliffe in Dinwiddie, Virginia. William Fleming, Tulsa, O. Oklahoma, Neutron Drive, Canyon, High Paul, Neutron Drive, Canyon Lake, Texas. Sir Dr. Sharkey, St. Peters, Missouri, Eric, England, Tallala, Oklahoma,
Starting point is 02:50:43 Charles George, and Evergreen, Colorado. Javier Vasquez in San Diego, California. Sir Dr. Sharkey, St. Peters, Missouri. He says it made a major typo, my first message to John. So was my punishment. I met his second donation with the correction. It's okay, brother. Spencer Pollack and Carlisks.
Starting point is 02:51:02 Collinsville, Oklahoma, Peter Barthel, Bellingham, Montana. Minnesota. Minnesota. I'm sorry, thank you. Mary Brune in McKinleyville, California, George Hayd in Truman'sburg, New York, John Foner in Pleasant Shade, Tennessee, Max Turnquist, Sharon, Massachusetts, Eric Allen, Woodland Hills, Rebecca Hall in Serveterie. That's in Italy, Cerbetteri and Roma in Italy. West Stewart, Mesa, Arizona, Ingram Mo, Lafayette, Colorado, Brian Tucker, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Tim Powers, Washington, Oklahoma. John Mahala in Columbia, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:51:42 Stephen Sill in DuCoin, Illinois. Matthew Lossie in Odessa, Florida. Christopher Pauley, Verona, Wisconsin. Podhouse Studios, Dos Palos, California. Ray Aaron in Artesia, New Mexico. Dan Kestersen, Colorado Springs. David van de Brandt in Tenard in the Netherlands. Daniel Wattour in Toronto, Ontario.
Starting point is 02:52:03 Michael Belcher in Yuba City, California. Brian Bollinger in Roseville, California. Rob Van Dyke in Near Low, the Netherlands. Linda Michelle Gali in Phoenix, Arizona. Dame Tony Helves comes in from Oklahoma City. The show isn't the same without you, John. Your heart attack made me realize just how much I depend on you for my twice-weekly dose of sanity and humor get well soon.
Starting point is 02:52:26 Anonymous from Los Angeles, California. John, you have made a bunch of great content over the years. I've been following since Silicon Spin. Get well, get better soon. Please don't become too crotchety. Too late. Right. Colin Metzler in Fresno, California.
Starting point is 02:52:41 Get well soon, John. I've been listening to Noah Jenner since I was 14. I'm turning 30 this month. You've helped shape my worldview. And for that, I'm eternally grateful. I pray for John's salvation and that God does not call him home too soon. No, no. Randy O'Rourke, Bradford, Pennsylvania, praying for a quick recovery.
Starting point is 02:52:57 Sir Latte in Bremerton, Washington. Get well soon, John, from Sir Latte of Bremerton. Spencer Ney and Weaverville, North Carolina, Eric W. Carson and Richland, Washington. Sir Mix, with a Bitcoin donation, 88, get well soon, John, stay well, Adam and Mimi, David Keyes, Riverside, and this is 88. Jesse Johnson from Woodbridge, New Jersey, 88. What a time to be, D-Doo. Yes. You've been deduced.
Starting point is 02:53:24 Sending my Get Well prayers to JCD during the Holy Month of Ramadan. Liam Rachel Rachel, Raquel Kim. I think Littleton, Colorado. Get well, 11 prayers for John. Sir Galteran with 8438. Get well soon, John. Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota, 8194. Then we have the boob donations.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Kevin McLaughlin comes in twice. He is the Archduke of Luna, 28008. Thank you very much. Dakota Walker. Boise, Idaho with the boob donation. Juraj Kojjak from Prague. I love these international donations. A boob donation.
Starting point is 02:54:00 Sersuki 808. Dear John, wishing you a speedy recovery surrounding my busty, surrounded by Busty Nurses. My tip of the day is try Dr. McCullough recommended natokanez capsules for your cardiovascular health.
Starting point is 02:54:17 Yes? Is that a thing? Yeah, it's something. And, yep, we're, he likes Natto, so good. Okay, thank you. I got to take a drink. And it's not stinky or slimy. It's actually delicious over rice if you get the right brand.
Starting point is 02:54:33 Sir Herb Lamb, Sugar Hill, Georgia, 8,008. Then we get the Lucky 777, 77, from Dwayne Spellman in Roebuth, Massachusetts. Greg Miller, Indianapolis, Indiana. Mutter says, get well soon, JCD. Dane Patricia Worthington, Palmetto Bay, Florida, $75. Jim Crane, Missouri, City, Texas, 75. Get Well, Prayers for. John C. and his wife, Mimi.
Starting point is 02:54:54 Stephen Hutto, St. Petersburg, 75. Sarah Hubert in Mitchum, Surrey. That's in England, 73, 26. Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada, 7227. Arno in Olmstlefane, 7132. Listening to the show now when Adam was talking to Mimi, many health carmers for John, wish him all the best that he may be healthy again soon, back to his old self.
Starting point is 02:55:17 Also strength to his family and Adam in this uncertain time. Pete LaShawns in Oviedo, Florida, 6996. Dame Tanya, good to hear from you, Dame Tanya. New York, New York. John, you've given us quite a scare. Glad you were able to have the surgery so quickly and are on the men, sending many hugs from Dame Tanya. Scott Otto in Boonville, Indiana, 6886. Sir hugger of kitties and zandum, 6789. John, get back into the house donation. 6789, make John soon fine. Big hug from my kiddies. William Jarvis, Mount Juliet, Tennessee. 6769. Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California, 6640. David Cox, Austin, Texas, 6325, Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, Small Boob, 6,006, Stephen Felice, Ranchos Palis Verdes in California, $60.
Starting point is 02:56:08 Elmer the Pelmer, with $60 sent to the Bitcoin to get well, get John out of the hospital Bitcoin donation, get well soon, John. Steve Bansra, our pilot, Nashville, Tennessee, Sir BNBNA, I think it is, 5993. Andrew Walker, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 58, 88, Sir David Wicker, sir, by his grace. Jacksonville, Florida, 58 and one dime. And there he is again, sir, by his grace, with 58 and 10 cents. God never leaves us or forsakes us. He loves you, and we do too, sir, by his grace. Nancy Murphy, San Bruno, California, 5721, Kelly Hubbard, Plymouth, Minnesota, 5678, Daniel Torrello, Charleston, South Carolina, 5678, Andrew Garland, Monty, Indiana, 5623.
Starting point is 02:56:54 Eric Marshall, Clameth Falls, Oregon, 55-55, 55-55, health karma for John. Brian Furley comes in with double nickels on the dime, so does Chris Chambers from London, Ontario, Canada. Sir Tooth Fairy, double nickels on the dime, Valparizo, Indiana. Prayers coming your way, John, and to Mimi, for having to put up with you while you're healing up. 5510 from Sir Jules Reed in Salem, Oregon.
Starting point is 02:57:19 Brent Morgan, West Point, Virginia, 55. Patrick McKana, Carnation, Washington, 55. John Seabert, 55, wishing John a speedy recovery with this Bitcoin donation of 78,410. Satoshies, $55. Troy Funderberg, Missoula, Montana, 55. Christopher Depp, Georgetown, Kentucky. Hope you get better soon. Carson Bush, Seabring, Florida.
Starting point is 02:57:43 Get well, John soon. Keeping Florida. John Boussano, Madison, Alabama, 5272. Kyle Hendrickson, Woodstock, Illinois, 52 72, 72, Carl Morrison, Duncan, British Columbia, 5272. Cripes, peace and love to John, Adam and family from Vancouver Island. Brittany Miller, 52, 72, she's from Trinidad, Colorado. Peter Benerdahl, 5272, Sir Pierre, get well soon, he says, 5272. Anastasia Trecles, Valparizo, Indiana, 52, 72, 72.
Starting point is 02:58:15 I've been following a career for decades. It's a long-time donor of my meager 12-12 per month. I probably well surpass baroness status, but I'm just thankful for the sanity you and Adam bring to the world. Get well soon. Trent Larrabee, Manchester, New Hampshire, 5158, Robert Ryan, Norton, Ohio, 51, 18. Sir Luke in London in England, collective karma for all, Sir Luke, the Earl of London in the Southeast.
Starting point is 02:58:37 Josiah Thomas, Anarchy, Iowa, 51. Saga and Ronnie from Sweden. I'm not quite sure. I didn't come through. What do you think that is? It's Sweden, but we don't know what place is from. It's Unicode is what that is. It looks like an IKEA furniture piece.
Starting point is 02:58:58 Oh, that's what the Swedes love. Those jokes never get old. Dave Jackson, Akron, Ohio, get well soon, buzz killed. That's Dave Jackson. He is the man from School of Podcasting. Dana, Daywalt, Woodstock, Georgia, 5033, William Hamblin, Huckley, Texas. God save.
Starting point is 02:59:15 John C. DeVorek, Sanacloreta, California 5005, Corey Bennett, Hercules, California, 501. And here are the 50s. Daniel LeBoy, Bath, Michigan, James Sherrimetta, Napanoch, New York, Joseph Lefrono, and Victoria, Texas, Aster Alex Zavala, Kyle, Texas, Edward Missouri, in Memphis, Tennessee, Stephen Ray, Spokane, Washington, Glenn Cucas, and Asherway, Rhode Island, Jody Zollman, and Topeka, Kansas, Jake Wingo in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, Sean Murray in West Chicago, Illinois. Jacob Ali in Wichita, Kansas. He says, we proclaim healing in Jesus' name. Amen to that.
Starting point is 02:59:53 First platoon, first squadron leader, 226, EVCC. Say when. Those guys are serious. Joshua Gladstone, Amherst, Massachusetts, Theodore Hart in St. Joseph, Michigan, Wayne Morel in Orlando, Florida, Brent Wessel in West Salem, Wisconsin. Stephen Crummy El Cajon, California, Danielle Williams, Mount Chester, California, Joel Blaine, Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, get better soon. John, praying for you, Daniel Ni Wong in Borlauga, I think it is in Sweden. Let the Force be with you. Priscilla Rubio in Norwalk, California, we're seeing John C. A Speedy Recovery. George Nolan and Washington, Montana. What? Did I miss something?
Starting point is 03:00:35 Well, I don't know. Did you? Oh, never mind. I'm sorry. I'm off. I need to give you a break anyway. You're making me exhausted. I'm almost done. I'm almost done. Cold read, by the way. Cold read, I'll have you know. I know.
Starting point is 03:00:48 I'm stunned. Switcheroo, maybe. Can be credited to my son Nicolie, Nicolie, who I hope will be knighted before you actually find an exit strategy. My apologies took me to denounce my his douchebaggery. My sincere prayers are with you. John, Mimi, his family, and of course, you as well, Adam.
Starting point is 03:01:04 You've got a lot of praying hands on you, John. Take time the rest. We'll be waiting. And thank you for your courage, says, George Nolan. Sarah Amble, Black Earth, Wisconsin. Get well soon, John. Rick Justicen, Salt Lake City, Utah. Get well, John. Gina Moli in Phoenix, Arizona. Get well, JCD. We miss you. Stripe. Thank you, Stripe. 50 bucks. Walker Phillips, San Rafael, California, Aichi Kittigawa, San Francisco, California, Jason Deluzio, Miami Beach, Florida.
Starting point is 03:01:34 Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee. And Sir Yogi wraps up our $50. above West Richland, Washington, and he says he loves us. And we thank you very much for that. Those are just a, I mean, there's a lot more, a lot of the eight-eighths. Thank you so much for giving John these fabulous notes. The donations are highly appreciated. And we all wish, of course, that John gets back in the saddle soon, although I have to say I'm kind of enjoying having you hang out here, Mimi. That's not been too bad. Well, thank you. Suggestions are always appreciated on how I can be better because this is not my normal place to be.
Starting point is 03:02:15 You're doing just fine. Now you locked up the dog. It's gotten even better. No agenda donations.com. Thank you all so much for supporting the show. Oops. I'm sorry. I got confused.
Starting point is 03:02:28 This is what I meant to do. Yes, here we go. Eric at the Grand Canyon wishes his dad. Edward from Bridgewater, a very happy birthday. He celebrated on March 3rd. Earl Christopher, happy birthday to his beautiful wife, Diane. She turned 55 on March 3rd. Dreb Scott, of course.
Starting point is 03:02:48 He is the Duke of the Chapters, the Cloud Chapters, March 4th. Alex, Ivan, Jacqueline, and Sweet Pease, a happy birthday to Alex Myers, turn 30 on the 6th. And Edward Knowles wishes his smoking hot wife a very happy birthday. She'll be celebrating on March 27th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday, yeah. Title changes. Turn and face the slaves.
Starting point is 03:03:15 Nice changes. Don't want to be in the du shui. And we will do these title changes. Nighting and damings will come when John returns, so you get the official double ceremony, as it should be. He is the keeper of his sword. Earl Christopher becomes Duke Christopher,
Starting point is 03:03:32 and Sir C. Sharp of Dotnet becomes a baronet today. Thank you both very much for your additional support and $1,000 or more to the best podcast in the universe. And we have some fantastic meetup reports. GendamMeetups.com is where you can find all of the no agenda meetups listed. It is a collaboration between Sir Daniel, who maintains the website and Mimi, who always is putting together the entire list of what is upcoming and it's highly appreciated.
Starting point is 03:04:07 And we love it even more when you give us a report. Here is the report from Las Altos. fantastically the new producers and getting to meet new people. Sir Montauk, have enough farewell time as always. Hi, Leslie, I'm here, I'm new. These people are crazy. Thank you, bye.
Starting point is 03:04:26 Hi, this is Dame, Rose. This is Sir, Rekalsertrand crazy season a second, and I'm just hoping John is healthy enough to have a beer at the next Club Mallard meetup. Yeah, well, John. I don't think alcohol is in his future anytime soon, to be honest. That will be good.
Starting point is 03:04:48 Well, he can have a non-alcoholic beer. Oh, yes. Okay. Hey, there was a big meetup in Tinley Park. It was Darren O'Neill and Eli the Coffee Guy. 33 people showed up. They had a great time and they made a report for us. What's up, y'all?
Starting point is 03:05:04 It's Eli the Coffee Guy here at Hail Storm Brewing, having a good time with all my friends from the No Agenda crew. Rex Redbone in the morning to Baroness Amy of FEMA Region 5 Baron John the fabulous of the glacial drumlins Dame Trinity visiting from Fort Wayne having a great time with the No Agenda crew Thank you for your courage Ron V from the troll room
Starting point is 03:05:30 Looking forward to seeing this one on the air Hey in the morning John and Adam Sir PBR Street gang here in Chicago Loving the area and prayers to John What's the matter, John? Too many eggs? Too soon, too soon. This is Sir Matthew. Get well soon, John. In the morning, this is Dame Courtney.
Starting point is 03:05:53 John, get well soon. We got to have some more live episodes, guys. We just can't handle all these special reruns. They're just not my cup of tea. I hope you get better. Get well soon, John. Can't wait to hear you. John, I hope everything turns out great.
Starting point is 03:06:09 This is Sir Zagabell. Baron of the Displains River Valley. We miss you. We hope you're back soon. Exit strategy is not the way to go. You've got to keep doing the show. Hey, this is Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. John, get well soon.
Starting point is 03:06:23 And Adam, we still love you too. This is Omar. That's all. All right. And it's Eli Baron of the Beans saying we love you, John. And everybody out and get Mo Nation, peace out. Actually, we need Darren.
Starting point is 03:06:38 Hi, I'm Darren O. You may have heard of me. I'm on the pre-show. My wife refuses to talk. We were all concerned. John didn't have a heart, so we were all happy to find out he does. Hey, thank you to Darren and Eli for hosting this meetup.
Starting point is 03:06:52 We're sucking in soot, and we're going to fix it in post. We don't fix anything in post. Yes, very good. Thank you very much, guys. I sound like you had a good time. A couple of meetups coming up in the rest of this month. On the 14th, Eagle, Idaho,
Starting point is 03:07:09 Gladewater, Texas, Indianapolis, Indiana, the 15th, Rockaway, New Jersey on the 18th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 19th. On the 21st, Los Angeles, California, and Franklin, Tennessee. Coleyville, I got to learn how to pronounce that. Texas on the 28th, and Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 28th as well. And a reminder, we have the Albany, California meetup that might be John's return. We don't know yet. On the 11th of April, along with Fredericksburg, Texas on the 11th of April. And many more that you can find at noagenda meetups.com.
Starting point is 03:07:39 Go there, find them. This is where you will meet people who are like-minded, just as nutty as you are. Connection brings protection. These are the people who will be your first responders in an emergency. Noah Genomeetups.com, if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and always guarantee to party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be.
Starting point is 03:08:06 Drink it all hell's blame. where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. And a special birthday shout out to Sir Brian with one eye, Brian Skelton, who celebrated his birthday earlier this week. And he got cheated because we didn't do a full show. So happy birthday, Brian.
Starting point is 03:08:27 Thank you, Tina, for reminding me. I have all these women taking care of the show. It's fantastic. It's fantastic, I tell you. It's great. So hopefully, John, it'll be like five weeks out. from surgery by the time the Albany meetup comes and if you don't get John, you get me. So I'll be down there.
Starting point is 03:08:46 By then people be John who? What? Who's that guy? Mm-hmm. Now, will he, will, how's he walking? Will you need a cane and ugly stick? I don't think so. No, he should be, I mean, he's, he's weak right now.
Starting point is 03:09:00 But he's in, he's in a week of rehab and the cardio rehab. So they're going to make him, you know, walk and go up and downstairs and do everything he needs to do out in the real world. And, you know, Jay and Brennan will no doubt take excellent care of him and get him moving. I'll be down there, so I'll be able to nag him. And, you know, I expect that he's going to bounce back fairly quickly. I mean, that's what I'm hoping. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:25 Sure sounds like it. When I heard he was already watching Chinese TV, I'm like, okay, the brains. I remember when they woke him up, you said that the nurses had talked to you and said, you know, his mental state is great and he has a very strong grip. Around the nurse's neck, no doubt. Exactly. So you didn't have any ISOs. I didn't expect you to.
Starting point is 03:09:52 I tried, but I was tired from the other ones. I understand. I'm going to give you three choices you get to choose. Here's the first one. Unbelievable stuff. And that's the first one. Second one. It's very, very good.
Starting point is 03:10:07 and probably my favorite. What the hell are you putting in your mouth? I'd just say it. Which one do you choose, Mimi? Oh, I like the last one. Okay. And now, oh my goodness, here it comes. Mimi's tip of the day.
Starting point is 03:10:25 Green advice for you and me, just the tip with JCD. And sometimes at all. All right. Okay. I have a tip that's not a normal tip, but it is something I... That's how every tip of the day starts off. Not a normal tip, but it's a tip of the day.
Starting point is 03:10:45 Okay, here we go. Well, it's not a cleaning tip. It's not a wine tip. It is a practical tip. I cannot stress the importance of writing down all of your passwords, all of your challenge words. Oh, yes. Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 03:11:01 Importantly, your pin number to your computer, the four-digit pin. Just a thought. It's been the biggest frustration for me this week is, it's like, what was John's first car? Oh, my God. What, what, what, what was the mascot of his, it was high school team? You know, I mean, we've been, it took us days to, to get the newsletter out because we couldn't do the challenges for, you know. Now, if I understand, okay, so I understand it. You had the passwords to everything except the computer.
Starting point is 03:11:35 No, no, we had old passwords that hadn't been updated. Oh, yay. Yay. And we had, and yes, we did not have the PIN to, and John still won't give it to us. So we have gotten around it. Which makes two-factor authentication a problem because they send an email. Yes. And so John still won't give you the PIN to his computer?
Starting point is 03:12:00 Well, he doesn't remember it because evidently he changed this on a regular basis. So that means you have to go through the Microsoft non-sumption. sense. Oh my goodness. So you can get into it? You go through Microsoft stuff. You can get into the computer? We couldn't because we didn't know. We couldn't. We don't know the Microsoft password like anyone does, although for everyone listening, mine is, you know, I hate Microsoft. It's the problem is is the two factor authentication are, you know, you got to get it right. Um, yeah. You know, so when you have access to the email, so you're getting that far, it is question. that are like, you know, you know, I don't know, I don't remember what, what year his first car was.
Starting point is 03:12:42 I don't know what, you know, who he went to the prom with. You know, all those things are. Does he? He remembers who he went to the prom with? The questions are so insane. Have you considered Bitwarden or some password manager of the like that you can even set up a emergency things after 24 hours you can you can the backup person can claim it and then they can get in have I considered this or are we talking about John well I'm talking to you because no of course
Starting point is 03:13:18 John hasn't considered this I everyone knows my passwords because I use and I have them written down and yes I've I've there's I have played with those different programs I cannot get John to use any of them because he doesn't, he's just, that's John. He's John. You know, no explanation needed, Mimi. It's just John. But everybody else should have, should do this, make everyone's life easier. The other thing that I highly recommend, even if you don't need it, give a power of attorney
Starting point is 03:13:50 to your spouse, just a durable power of attorney that they can keep in the safety deposit box, in case anything happens to you, at least they have access. You know, when I met Tina, talk about OPSEC, is that what this is, operational security? And I was helping her with her Mac and something on the laptop. And I said, hey, what's this? It says, important, do not delete. What's this? That's all my password is like, oh, okay, yeah, that's where you want it.
Starting point is 03:14:18 Right there in the important do not delete file. But she has a file. She has a file and it's safely kept and it's all written down. And she's very fastidious about this. Very, very good. And she has all my password. She knows exactly what they are. They're all written down for this very, for this very reason.
Starting point is 03:14:37 You know, yeah. The back end getting in is, you know, and it's, you know, I didn't expect this. You know, I really, I don't think anyone ever expects anything like this. But I'm one of those people who's always nagging, you know, look, you know, what if, what if, what if. You know. And then if happened. Yeah. And it's happened.
Starting point is 03:14:56 And I, you know, it's, you know, I'm surviving. Write down your passwords. Give a power of attorney. There it is, everybody. Mimi Smith, the Vorex. Tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD.
Starting point is 03:15:14 And sometimes, Mimi. We made it, Mimi. We made it. Yes. Wow. It's a long show. We have to do this again on Thursday. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 03:15:28 You know what to do. You know what to do. Lock the dog up and it'll be perfect. Absolutely perfect. I will absolutely do that. And I won't rustle papers. No, hey, try bumping the mic a couple times. That always helps.
Starting point is 03:15:44 Okay. Thank you very much, Noadj in the nation. Thank you, Troll Room. Thank you all for supporting the show and especially giving John a reason to live. Believe me, it works, it helps. It does. And absolutely, thank you so much. Yeah, for both the prayers and the donations. Thank you. And special thanks to Jay and J.C. and everybody and everybody who pitched in. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Where all the wineries are, Fredericksburg. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from the, I've got things coming up on my computer.
Starting point is 03:16:25 From the good old Olympic Peninsula. For a few days, I will be in Washington State. So good thoughts for Washington since we keep getting hit with solar flares, literally. We've got Follow the Monkey and MVP for end-of-show mixes. We'll talk you on Thursday, everybody. Adios, Mofoza, hooey-hooey, and such. Go ahead, please. America First is not isolationist.
Starting point is 03:16:53 We're putting the other guys in danger. America First is not head in the sand. Don't lie about the war. We're not at war. America First is not to get entangled. Nearly accomplished. On the ground. America First is to follow.
Starting point is 03:17:05 We're not at war. We're not at war. We're not. America first is to kill people. That's our job. Kill people. Very successful. Kill people.
Starting point is 03:17:14 A very serious mistake. Kill people. This needs to continue. Kill people. That's our job. Kill people. We're not at war. Kill people.
Starting point is 03:17:24 I'm sure. It's a very clear. mission and that mission is killing a lot of people. That's our job. That's our job. That's the only ones that need to be worried. That's doing very well. So the stories have been told, but he pushed the red line. Went too far.
Starting point is 03:18:17 Now it's on the lift like an old salvage car. He's in the shop for a valve in a gear. Getting parts replaced for the coming year. Mimi wrote the book on the eggs in the pan. A literary feat for the best part of the man But Adam says no It's unacceptable according to the man You can't just bow out with a cracked-up chest
Starting point is 03:18:40 While the too many eggs are put to rest The old bar tide is getting to start Bolting back together every broken part Meanwhile the producer's pitching to cover the show While JCD recovers in his Silicon Valley Shacktoe Mofo. Dvorak.org slash N.A. What the hell?
Starting point is 03:19:21 Are you putting in your mouth?

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