No Agenda - 1863 - "Nekkidly"

Episode Date: April 26, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A big wasted money building. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorex. It's Sunday, April 26, 2026. This is your award winning Kimmel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1863. This is no agenda. I'm from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Refinery Row in Northern California, I'm wondering, did anything happen over the weekend?
Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm John C. DeVorek. Blackpot and Buzzkill In the morning I texted you on both machines last night, on your phone and on your so-called text system. Did you not receive it? What? My texts.
Starting point is 00:00:48 No. I must have texted you 20 times. What did it say? Emergency pod! Emergency pod! Yeah. I missed it. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:00 It's time for an emergency. Do you have your heater on? No, I turned it off, as a matter of. You hear what the difference is? No, no, I believe you. I believe you. No, it's like, emergency pod, man. Everyone's calling for an emergency pod.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Oh, man, we live in such an amazing world. Right away. Right away, right away. Right away. It was false flag. It's false flag. Everyone's laughing. It's a false flag.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And so you have the three name character. Which is perfect. Perfect. And a kicker is one of our producers sent this note in. it's the 33rd most popular last name in the United States. Well, there it is. Proof. Alex Jones did a car video this morning. Everyone wants me to know how you said. False flag is.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I looked into documents. No, it's not. There's too many security personnel. Hey, how about it makes no sense? How about it's just crazy talk? False flag. And you know, and here's the, I have proof. Here's the proof that it was a false flag. Because Fox News is Aisha Hasni called in. She called in and they cut her off the minute she was about to blow it. I want to just quickly tell you, I was sitting next to Caroline Levitt, the press secretary's husband. He was one of our guests.
Starting point is 00:02:25 He was feeding right next to me. And, you know, right as the dinner was starting, you know, the national anthem happened. and then he kind of leaned over and said, you know, I watched you on TV. You're a great job. You need to be very safe. And he was very serious when he said that to me. And he kind of looked around the room and he said, you know, there are some... Uh-oh, they cut her off, John.
Starting point is 00:02:46 They cut her off because she was about to blow the false flag. Cover it, cover it. It sounds like we lost Aisha's phone there. And this happens, by the way, especially when you have so many people attempting to utilize. No, CNN wrote an article right away. Right away? Oh yeah, a lot of false flag calls about this one. Yeah, I was a teacher of the month in December 2024. In context of this whole White House correspondence dinner, this was kind of an amazing moment.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And I have a number of short clips to kind of show that. Because you have to understand the White House correspondent's dinner. I think Trump hasn't attended it like since when Obama made fun of him, I think. Yeah, I think that's true. I think that was the last one. And so there's been, you know, and he didn't have a comedian. Jimmy Kimmel was railing on that. Oh, he has such thin skin.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He had some mentalist. What is a mentalist? A mentalist is a kind of a foam magician who does mind tricks to make you think he can read your mind. Oh, that could have been funny. That could actually be pretty funny. I'm sorry that didn't take place. So before...
Starting point is 00:04:09 By the way, I understood that this thing was... Was this bogus and I was just led astray when they said it was sponsored by Grindr? I haven't heard this. But it wouldn't surprise me, considering some of the news corps. So just the prelude to this here. an example, you know, because of course the president hates the press and the press hate the president. And, you know, he was, he had already said, I'm only going to do my speech.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm going to walk away. And here's the view. For the first time as president, Trump will be in attendance as president. He was there one time when I was there, the time that Obama humiliated him and he went bananas. I was there. He actually didn't go bananas, if I recall. He didn't go bananas at all. He was very calm. He just sat there, stoic, looking ahead. He took it, yeah. So here's the situation. A guy that hates the press is at a dinner that honors the press.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Right. You can't even make this up anymore. Over 200 journalists signed a letter demanding that Trump gets called out during the dinner. They decided. And here's what they're saying. What's the clips? We're really asking the Correspondents Association to get us fine, to stand up there and pledge to fight back against any office holder.
Starting point is 00:05:28 who would lead any kind of coordinated attack against press freedom of the First Amendment. We have a very fragile, ego, president who thinks he's king in the Oval Office, sitting behind the resolute desk. Now, presidents typically are the guest of honor. But for us to invite this man, this fox into the hen house, and for us to sit there and take it. So that was kind of the vibe. You're talking about a fragile ego. Well, it seems like the press has got the friday. fragile ego. Exactly. So the best part of the whole evening, which, as I understand it, was in honor of the First Amendment, there was First Amendment signs everywhere and it was about freedom of speech. And, you know, people don't realize that this is not what you see clips on television. We've been following this for years. The clips on television are, you know, a comedian roasting the president, the president roasting the press. But it's an awards. This award ceremony for great.
Starting point is 00:06:28 journalism. They have scholarships. There's all kinds of different things. It's mostly for scholarships. Yeah, exactly. So when the president then did a press conference right away, which was interesting because everyone's in their tuxedo and the purdy dresses,
Starting point is 00:06:44 they got exactly the opposite. But in light of this evening's events, I asked that all Americans recommit with their hearts in resolving our difference peacefully. We have to resolve our differences I will say, you had Republicans, Democrats, independents, conservatives, liberals, and progressives.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Those words are interchangeable, perhaps, but maybe they're not. But yet everybody in that room, big crowd, record-setting crowd. There was a record-setting group of people, and there was a tremendous amount of love and coming together. I watched, and I was very, very impressed by that. Oh, no, a message of union. from the president. We can't have this. It got even worse. He didn't even want to cancel the night. He wanted to go straight ahead and let's do this event. And we're going to reschedule. We're going to do it again. We're not going to let anybody take over our society. We're not going to cancel
Starting point is 00:07:44 things out because we can't do that. We wanted to say tonight, I will tell you, I fought like hell this day. But there was protocol. They said, please, sir, because they didn't know. a lot of, there was a lot of action going on and they didn't know could there be probably a lone shooter, but we'll find out, we'll find out very quickly. They have it very well under control. So I want to thank everybody very much and Todd Blanche,
Starting point is 00:08:10 please. So one of the most contentious relationships the president has is with Caitlin Collins of CNN. And she was going to receive an award and the ladies of view were already all psyched up and hyped up about it. My colleague and Anna's colleague
Starting point is 00:08:26 Caitlin Collins is receiving. And for her coverage of this White House, somebody who we all have seen President Trump insult her, criticize her, and she stands there stoically and keeps asking questions that we all want the answers to. So the night should be and is about the journalists, regardless of who headlines it, regardless of the speech from the president. And I anticipate, listen, he's apparently, it's reported the president's going to go, give his remarks, and then leave. So they can all celebrate once he leaves if they want to. The White House Correspondents Association should not accept that. If he is going to show up, he should sit there while Caitlin Collins gets her award.
Starting point is 00:09:02 See, the ladies of the view don't understand how it works. They don't understand the game. I think Caitlin Collins understands the game because when she asked the question, oh, the president's very cordial towards her. Do you have any political motivations from this? Well, you never know. We'll be able to tell you that maybe by tomorrow or the next day. You know, he's in custody.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And they're asking him a lot of questions. I guess they're going over Todd and they're already at his apartment. He lives in California. Yes, sir. And they're over there. So they'll be able to tell you. Thank you, Caitlin. Thank you, Caitlin.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Very nice. Not mean or anything. You know, even the chairman, Madam Chairman, Madam Chairman, did a great job. Madam Chairman. I just want to say you did a fantastic job. What a beautiful evening. And we're going to reschedule. Oh, clap, clap, clap.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh, golf claps. Very nice. It's very tough for her to ask a killer question, right? But you have done a fantastic job, please. Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate it. As you mentioned, it all happened so quickly. And I wonder, especially because, unfortunately, you have experience with these sorts of threats.
Starting point is 00:10:15 In that moment, when you realize there was a threat and service agents were telling us to get down, can you describe what was going through your mind? how you were feeling in that moment. This is an amazing question because if you go to journalism school, the first thing that tell you is you never want to, your first question should not be, what was going through your mind? You know, that's like, it's like the lamest question.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So the best question of the night goes to Peter Ducey. Respectfully, why do you think this keeps happening to you? Well, you know, I've studied assassinations. And I must tell you, the most impactful, people, the people that do the most, you take a look at the people, Abraham Lincoln, I mean, you go through the people that have gone through this where they got them. But the people that do the most, the people that make the biggest impact, they're the ones that they go after. They don't go after the ones that don't do much because they like it that way. And when you look at the people that have, either whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt, And they're very impactful people. Just take a look at the names here. The big names.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And I hate to say, I'm honored by that, but I've done a lot. We've done a lot. We've taken this country, and we were a laughingstock for years, and now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world. We've changed this country. And there are a lot of people that are not happy about that. So I think that's the answer, Peter. You rightly said Gerald Ford.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well, almost everyone who has been assassinated or attempted assassination has been impactful. Almost, almost everybody. And luckily, the president leaves the press with a little bit of bait for the morning shows. Attributes of what we're planning at the White House. It's actually a larger room and it's much more secure. It's drone proof. It's bulletproof glass. We need the ballroom.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That's why Secret Service. That's why the military are demanding it. They've wanted the ballroom for 100. 50 years for lots of different reasons, but today's a little bit different because today we need levels of security that probably nobody's ever seen before. And I tried to get the clip this morning because I saw it, but I didn't record it. You know, MS now, I guess the black guy with the fro. Isn't he the president of the White House Correspondents Association or the current president?
Starting point is 00:12:46 I actually don't know who is right now. I think he is. And he was like, well, just because you want it in the ballroom doesn't mean we'll do it. it there. Oh, you want to make a bet? You want to make a bet that you'll all be dressed up in your tuxedos and your nightgowns. Like, oh yeah, we're going into the big ballroom. Of course you will. Yeah, it's where you do it. You want to do something fancy, not, you know, hotel, you know, hotel, you know, one of those hotel ballrooms. Yes, exactly, which is obviously. With the walls that they slide, you know, sliding walls. So then from the, from the early morning sweep of the,
Starting point is 00:13:22 the news, just a couple of clips here. John Carl from ABC personalizes this. John, your phone rang early this morning? Yeah, my phone rang shortly after 7 a.m. My landline, George, actually a number that few people call and it was President Trump calling.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He said at first he was calling to see if I was okay with what happened last night. Are you okay? And then he reiterated many of the things he said in his press conference last night, emphasizing the unity that he fell in that moment that he felt at the dinner before the shooting and certainly after with the people
Starting point is 00:14:00 who reached out to him. And he said absolutely, and he was quite firm about this, that dinner must be rescheduled. It must be rescheduled. He knows that I was a former president of the White House Correspondents Association and worked with him on a dinner that never actually happened back during COVID. And he was saying, we've got to get this dinner back on. It has to happen. think this was an interesting turn of vibe regarding the president and the, uh, and the, uh, and the press corps. You turned it into a very positive thing. Although Margaret Brennan, of course, had to be the first one to make the pivot. A night to celebrate the first amendment abruptly ended by a gunman permitted by the second
Starting point is 00:14:44 amendment to own those weapons. There it is. Gun violence is not new in America, but the threat of violence is now a cost of public life. It permeates our politics. Last month, Supreme Court Justice Roberts publicly appealed for personal attacks on judges to stop. U.S. Marshals report there were 564 threats last year, and nearly 15,000 against lawmakers, staff, and their families, according to U.S. Capitol Police. Multiple chief cabinet members. So a threat is got something to do to the Second Amendment? you're trying to bring logic into her monologue? That's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:15:29 You're saying she's talking about threats. She's not talking about gun violence. No. But she's talking about gun violence at the base, her basic thesis. So this is a very poor argument. The correct. Yes, it is. Lawmakers, staff, and their families,
Starting point is 00:15:47 according to U.S. Capitol Police. Multiple Trump cabinet members now live on military bases for their own protection. Ooh, I'd never heard this. Who lives on a military base for their protection? Well, this needs to be looked into. No such fortress for the federal and state officials who face a growing number of threats in communities across the country. There's a marked increase in harassment and threats of physical violence to journalists in the U.S. From the very public, they are working to inform.
Starting point is 00:16:19 As the nation wonders how to keep the next gunman out, let's also reflect on how we let this hate in, how we stop it from corroding our democracy and grasp onto our civility before we lose it. Hate is a part of democracy, lady. What are you talking about? That's how it works. Oh, we can't hate.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Well, start with yourself. Can't hate. Can't hate. And then the final one, is about this alleged shooter. So the alleged shooter, as we just said, had multiple weapons in his possession. Here in the District of Columbia, open carry is not permitted. You just said he traveled from California across the country by train.
Starting point is 00:17:03 At this point, are you thinking at the federal level of changing security protocols in any way to, for example, match on trains what you are expected to go through when you, fly where you do have to declare a weapon when you cry remember Obama did that remember they had TSA at the trains I thought they were I thought they had Obama was bragging about they weren't doing TSA and the trains but then no he he was saying that you don't have to take a shoe take your shoes off but then you did that was the whole remember that yes that was the whole joke of it they had these teams on the platforms after Obama had said over and over about high speed rail. You don't have to take your shoes off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Nice speed rail. Yeah. So now they're trying to bring that back. Oh, yeah. Trains, train's dangerous. Where you do have to declare a weapon when you cross state lines. How did he travel by train without any challenge and arrive here in the nation's capital? You've gone for state to state, haven't you? Yes. In the car. Where do you, where would you declare this weapon? Well, Margaret. Do they have a spot there? I mean, they do actually going into California, they do have to declare a vegetables that you bring across the state line. But would you say, hey, what do you got with you? You got a palm tree and a 30 out six. What? Yeah. No, of course not. I mean, when maybe you stop at those truck weighing stations, I'm always curious about, I'm always serious. Get out of here in your car. Any challenge and arrive here in the nation's capital.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Look, this isn't about, in my mind, changing the law or making the laws more restrictive around possession of firearms. It appears he purchased these firearms the past couple years. We don't know how those firearms ended up in his possession in D.C. We can make some assumptions based upon what I just said about how he got to D.C. But I don't think the narrative here is about changing laws or making our laws more restrictive. This is about law enforcement who are doing their jobs and a suspect who tried to do something and failed. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And there's your emergency pod, everybody. Failed miserably. I have the guys, there was a manifesto that appeared on LinkedIn. On LinkedIn, this is the new manifesto posting spot? Well, it seemed to be where somebody posted it. And he goes on about using buckshot and having different targets and who's not targets. Oh, yeah. No, his brother, I think he's, hold on, I think I have it here. His, yeah, here we go, CBS.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Multiple sources tell CBS news that the gunman told law enforcement he was targeting Trump administration officials. Sources now say that Alan's brother had also alerted local police of alleged alarming writings that he shared with the family prior to the incident. Yeah, I think that's what this message is. The video reveals the moment the 31-year-old suspect sprinted past a security checkpoint. charging toward the ballroom where President Trump, cabinet officials, and roughly 2,500 guests were assembled. It is clear based upon what we know so far, that this individual was intent on doing as much harm and as much damage.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Did you see Judge Janine in her nighty? She was wearing a very sheer dress. I didn't notice, uh, almost inappropriate. I did see her, but it was a long shot. Almost age inappropriate. Ellen, a teacher from Southern California, opened fire at a uniform division officer of the U.S. Secret Service before agents tackled him to the ground handcuffing him. He was armed with a shotgun, a handgun, and multiple knives.
Starting point is 00:21:00 As he ran through that checkpoint members of law enforcement from the United States Secret Service intercepted that individual. I'm still a little skeptical about the Secret Service agent being shot. I'm thinking that was Crossfire or someone else accidentally shot. I don't know if this guy even got a shot off. Well, I saw that video. It looked like he shot him to me, and he says in his note that he expects the Secret Service guys. He doesn't want to kill them, and he expects him to be wearing bulletproof armor. And he shot him right in the armor.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh, okay. So you saw that on the video. Yeah, I looked pretty clear. I mean, I could be wrong. But it was so fast because the guy's running like a son of a bitch. He starts running, and the guy comes, you know, tries to moves toward him and he shoots him. Can we, in this day and age of 48 megapixel phones, can we possibly get better video? I mean, I- 120 by 120 is not good enough?
Starting point is 00:21:57 That was like, see-you-see-me video. Oh, callback. Seriously, it's ridiculous. It's like, you don't have to, it doesn't have to be black and white and 10 frames a second because of disc space anymore. Come on. You're, that's an absolute yes. They don't like that. They have cameras on phones that are little bitty things that have better imagery than that.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I mean, I've got, I hung up three cameras here at the house at my wife's insistence. And it's great. You know, and like, of course, you never catch anything. Oh, well, there's the UPS guy. You know, and you get an alert and you can go, oh, look, I can see the UPS guy. It follows him. It tracks him. None of this stationary bull crap.
Starting point is 00:22:46 So how can I have a better system at home than the system in the Hilton Hotel that is meant to provide evidence for calamity? Yeah. It's not as though these cameras are expensive. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean, the old end days, yeah, maybe you had to pay a couple hundred bucks for a little camera for a security system. Now they're like, you know, the Logitech webcam has got HD and it's like, you know, 40 bucks. I mean, give me a break. I'm going to read from the note here that this guy said because I thought this was,
Starting point is 00:23:27 because they had Jamie Raskin on one of the shows this morning and it was Dana Bash says to him. So don't you think the rhetoric maybe has a little bit to do with this? I mean, in Raskin goes, what do you mean? There's no way. And then he says, well, people have been saying, you know, they say all the stuff. He says, I don't know. I like Trump. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:23:47 No, Raskin said that? Basically. Oh, that's hilarious. So this guy writes this because he's going on and is, hello everybody, is the way it starts it off. This is the part they got me. He says, I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. Who said this?
Starting point is 00:24:12 The guy, the shooter. Oh, this is from his note. In his note. Oh, wow. So, I mean, he's was triggered by, you know, it was, you know, the propaganda you have out there and he's in California. He lives in Torrance. You know, it's loaded with this sort of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 At the end of the note, he says, I would still go through. He talks about, he expected to be shot. What does this mean? What does it mean coat my hands? I don't know what coat his hands means either. Can we ask the book of it? knowledge? Let me ask the book of knowledge. Book of knowledge. What does coat my hands mean as a phrase? Book of knowledge. Don't let me down, book of knowledge. It says, quote my hands.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Oh, forget about it. According to the book of knowledge, quote my hand refers to the jet. Quote my hands. All right, good job, book of knowledge. Back in your, back in your hovel. Sorry. So continue. Well, anyway, the very end he says I would still go on. I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if I were absolutely, if it was absolutely necessary in the basis that most people chose to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor. There you go. With the same three words in the same order.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And are there complete, and are thus complicit. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. well that's one more thing I'll just mention from this note he says administration I find this peculiar
Starting point is 00:25:51 he said he does he talks about who the targets are he says administration officials not including Mr. Patel they are targets prioritized from the highest
Starting point is 00:26:04 ranking to the lowest well that's interesting not what does that mean Patel is like enemy number two on the list these days. Huh. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:17 That's a clue about this guy one way or the other, don't you think? I don't know. I think it is. Hmm. Hmm. So anyway, this whole thing is, you know, what it is. You got any Alex Jones stuff?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Because I actually have some Alex Jones clips that are different. They're about the SPLC. Oh, I actually, I've been looking for, I saw them come. come in. I haven't, obviously, I haven't looked at you, and listen to your clips. But before you do the SPLC, I have a boots on the ground from Dame Rhonda about the SPLC, which was interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:01 She says, the SPLC represented the plaintiff, Ricky Wyatt, against the Alabama Department of Mental Health, originated when First Lady Lurlene Wallace visited Bryce Hospital in Tuscalo and was appalled at the conditions. What happened? and this is a case that lasted many years, Judge Thompson issued a mandate. If the state was going to run a mental health system, certain standards had to be met and funded. If the state could not afford the standards, it would not have a mental system, mental health system. The result is that the standards were so high and therefore so costly that Alabama opted out of providing mental health care. And the ripple effect was that most every other state in the nation over time relied on that case from Alabama to justify their decision not to fund
Starting point is 00:27:44 mental health care in their states. Wow, that's a good one. So Dame Rhonda works or worked in a law office in Alabama, one of the attorneys who represented Alabama in the final years of that litigation is her boss. He's 88 years old, still comes into the office daily in his opinion because it was the SPLC that argued that. He says the SPLC is responsible for getting rid of mental health facilities in America and he still blames them for that. Well, it's probably right. Yeah, it's so typical. Anyway, clips from you.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Unintended consequences. Yeah. So Jones is talking about, you know, who's running the world. New World Order. And who's going to kill us all. You're going to kill us all. And the problem is he's kind of wandering.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I mean, it's like he's not as focused as he should be. Hmm. So I got three clips, but I thought they were interesting because I wanted to ask you if you could decode what he's actually saying here. Of course. I can do that. I can do that for you. All right. Click one.
Starting point is 00:28:52 The ADL and Southern Property Law Center and the Democrats and the globalists in the same system run all the Western world. What have you believe is secretly running everything. Reality, it's a bunch of globalist mad scientists creating a giant AI cyborg mass neural network known as the intergalactic communication system. Not just saying that. Look that up. Oh, he forgot to add XRP. so I looked it up you read their documents
Starting point is 00:29:16 what did you find what is he talking about that was kind of a joke that was done in the 60s by a scientist who's largely responsible for starting or getting Arpinet going and getting the internet started
Starting point is 00:29:32 back in the 60s and he made this comment about the intergalactic blah blah blah which scientist was that how link ladder, link ladder is a very famous guy. You can look it up, but you can look it up. The intergalactic, you have to play it again so I can get it clear,
Starting point is 00:29:52 but control, intergalactic control, whatever. Let's hear it again. Hold on a second. Running everything. Reality, it's a bunch of globalist, mad scientists, creating a giant AI cyborg mass neural network known as the intergalactic communication system. The intergalactic communication system. Yeah, you can ask the, Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Tell me about the intergalactic communication system. Now, this should be interesting. You know, the Book of Knowledge doesn't look at Wikipedia. It has its own sources. According to the Book of Knowledge, the term intergalactic communication system
Starting point is 00:30:31 may refer to either the historical concept or modern theoretical approaches. JCR Lick Lider at Arpa used intergalactic computer network in the 1960s to describe his vision of a networked computing system that would eventually become the internet. For actual intergalactic communication, neutrinos are proposed as optimal due to their penetrating nature, unlike electrical... Okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Okay. So I heard it. Look it up, he says. Well, that's what the internet originally was, before it all consolidated and was all run by cloud flare. The gatekeepers for 18. The gatekeepers for AT&T. Yeah, it was a distributed network.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Well, yes, we might as well mention that. It was designed, not an intergalactic bull crap, but it was designed to be a communication system that could withstand a nuclear attack. Yes, and the whole idea was. And it went from college to college to college. It was mostly through the universities. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And the whole concept of TCPIP was, that traffic would route around an outage. At one point, I had my own C-Class network. I had an actual, like, a big piece of, at the time, a big piece of the internet. And then the problems came in with peering, because that was always the idea of the, you know, the philosophy of it was, well, you know, if, if traffic has to, to route around something and I have to route traffic from you, then that's okay because you will route traffic for me and it's called the peering system. And I believe it was Enron
Starting point is 00:32:22 that screwed that all up by saying, hey, this is worth money, this peering system and you should be charging. And then as more and more networks got rolled up like MFS and, you know, AT&T and Verizon and it became more and more centralized. Now, yeah, now it's just basically. Well, I'm not sure anyone was, I didn't hear that. What? What? But I know that Enron had anything to do. Yes, Enron was doing bandwidth trading with peering. I know this.
Starting point is 00:32:50 What was Enron, a power company involved with any of this? Because they were a scam. I'll tell you the story. No, I know they were a scam. Let me tell you the story. So we had think new ideas, public company. We had Bankers Trust, another fine
Starting point is 00:33:06 outfit, who had a huge derivatives issue at some point. But anyway, they were our client and we were building online network trading desks for them, which was really no more than a web interface to, to, what was the Adobe? Adobe had some kind of, I forget what it was called, not, they had some kind of component, some kind of desktop like Microsoft meeting point or something at the time. I forget what it's called. And so our system would connect to that and would pick up Excel spreadsheets and turn them into web pages.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And maybe a year or so after one of the VPs had left and went to Enron. And he's in that movie in the, you know, was it the smartest guys in the room? I don't think he went to jail. He probably went to Columbia. And he came in and said, hey, listen, he was all hyped up and, you know, drinking his Diet Coke and hell, hyped up. And listen, I need you guys to build a trading desk because we're going to do a bandwidth trading. and listen, it doesn't actually have to do anything. It just has to look impressive.
Starting point is 00:34:11 We just want to have lots of monitors that look like it's doing something with bandwidth trading. We passed on the opportunity. But that's what they were doing. It was fictitious. It was as much bull crap as their energy trading was. Mosaic. That's, thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Mosaic. Was it Mosaic? No, no, that wasn't Mosaic. No, it was. Yes, the Enron broadband scandal forgotten half of Enron's scam. So the point, the thing was,
Starting point is 00:34:40 is that the original concept, which is this routing all over the place, you know, then once it started becoming commercialized when somebody decided, let's do an internet, let the public get in on it, they demanded better, you know, you know, they didn't want this, these things
Starting point is 00:34:56 you remember there used to be some programs, you could, they used to, I can't remember the name of them, but they would, they're tracers. And you'd trace the connection. And you'd trace the connection. they would go from here to there to here or there. Trace route. Trace route. And it would show a million things. Hops. How many hops you got. And then AT&T and all the big boys was to decide, hey, you know, we can make some money doing this.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah. They said, why we, what, why bother? Why don't we just, you hook to me directly? And pretty soon there was like two backbones. And all the major hubs like May East, May West and all the rest of them were kind of left into dust. That's right. Yeah. So it's not anything like it was designed. be. I mean, if there was in a... And now, literally all servers are proxied by cloud flare. So when cloud flare goes down, the whole world got in the way. The whole world collapses.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bomb the offices in San Francisco and we're ready to go. Anyway, so yes. Are we on the clip two? Yeah. Now it becomes it becomes a little loony. Planning to depopulate almost all of us.
Starting point is 00:36:04 They tell the mid-level people that where they're going to kill 90%, but really they plan to kill 99%. Call it Nazi, whatever you want. The Nazis had their own competing plan. They talked about it Nuremberg. They said, Margaret Sanger, the British Eugenics Society, we're just following that plan. That's what's at the top of this. And it's so big that my dad was planned to, as I've told you many times, in high school, going to UT because he was top of his class, some of the top test scores in the state.
Starting point is 00:36:28 He was winning all the science, you know, fairs and stuff. And 14, they recruit him. They said, oh, this is a feeder to NASA. Eisenhower's Whiz Kid program. He's really conflating a lot of different things here.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yeah, and his timeline goes off a little bit too. He's talking about his dad now who became a dentist. He, uh, I looked him up and he was like born in 1950.
Starting point is 00:36:53 The timeline doesn't work unless the dad was born in 1942, which is possible. Because he's saying that he was 14 when Eisenhower, you know, created it. there was a moment in during the 50s.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Once Sputnik was launched, Eisenhower put the, you know, put the hammer down and said, we're turning all their kids into scientists. And that was in 57, not 56. And so the timeline doesn't match. He's kind of, unless the dad was born in 42 the way I see it. The SPLC didn't come around until 67. Yeah, he's kind of gone off, already off the rails, and he's talking about depopulation. He started, it was Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And my dad started this. And it wasn't NASA, folks. And a couple years into it, he gets called in by the head of the Botley Department, who was the head of plan two. It was Jewish, Professor Spear. Oh, Jew. My dad didn't tell me this until he saw endgame, right before it came out in my office with my mother. My mother looked at my dad and said, David, this can't be true.
Starting point is 00:38:03 and he started talking for about 20 minutes. He said, you know Spear, because he met her at Utah. You know, we used to have dinner over his house, yeah? And you know, yeah, I took body for me. Yeah, yeah, we used to have dinner with him. Yeah, well, he called me in and said, of the plan two people, you are the best, and you've been selected, and this is when he was about 17. He didn't meet her until about a year later when she got there.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And, you know, Hitler was a eugenicist, and we don't support targeting just one group, but it is, it is eugenics, and then that's what this is. and we're going to set up a world government and we're going to depopulate people. And my dad said, well, I'll still be friends with you, but I really don't want to be in this program. I mean, eugenics, is he confused with Planned Parenthood somehow that he's calling about? I don't understand. No, no, he's just rambling.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And here we go to the third clip, which is even more confusing. And they said, well, you know, we got another program you want you to be part of, and that was even worse, he said. He wouldn't say what that was. And he said, I'm just going to go to Baylor Medical and get a dental degree and I'm out of this. And he never told me the rest of it, but they didn't basically let him get out of it quite yet. Let's just leave it at that. That's how real, I know this whole is.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So at the top, there's not a Christian Adventurers Club of Nazis meeting, okay? There's people that put poison shots in the public. And I got news on this coming up. That's beyond huge. We've just gotten numb to it, though. congressional hearings where they have the CDC head documents that, oh, it's killed masses of people, including children, it doesn't work, it destroys immune systems. So let's accelerate it.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I have the congressional hearings. We're going to play clips. Oh, and the young people are dying, and when they cut them open, their entire organs are filled with spike protein, including no sperm, but spike protein that's grown in the testicles. That's where it goes, the ovaries of testicles, so that when you're having sex with the woman, you've had it, you're now injecting her with this that goes into her. ovaries and sterilizes you. That's one of its main functions. Nanotech, self-replicating, HIV-spike protein. That is a fact.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yes, okay. I'm down with all that, but what does that have to do with SPLC? This is what I don't understand. That's the And by the way, you know, the weave dip shit in the troll room. We're not conspiracy deniers. We're denying that Alex Jones
Starting point is 00:40:28 has any sanity about him right now. This has nothing to do. with SPLC. SPLC was a dynamite idea, a great marketing idea. And it really started back when, what was the SLSP? There was some other, there was some other anti-KKK group. And this, was it Morris D's, I think. And Morris D's from the time. Morris D's was the head of the SPLC. Yeah. So he started SPLC as like, oh, this is a great gambit. We're going to do this. And people actually thinking they were donating
Starting point is 00:41:05 to this other group, and so they kind of grew that way. Sorry. But it was pretty creative. I thought it was, there's a note of genius about the whole thing. I want to play one more thing, which is Stossel's report, which was in the early 2000s on the SPLC
Starting point is 00:41:22 when he was still working for ABC. John Stossel had a show. He was, you know. It was good. It was good. And I don't even know why. He's still good. Why did he leave ABC?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Because he does YouTube's of his stuff now, doesn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he does. It's pretty much like his old show. But I don't know why they got rid of him. I think it was because he turned a little too right wing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was during the woke period.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah. And that was, you know, ABC. Yeah, got to get rid of him. Yeah, got to get rid of him. So this is from his old show. There are dangerous hate groups. America who will warn us about them. The media haven't answered. The Southern Poverty Law Center, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Southern Poverty Law Center, based in that building in Alabama,
Starting point is 00:42:12 calls itself the premier group monitoring hate groups. Looking at their map of such groups, you'd think America was consumed by hate. I once believed in the center's mission. Well, meaning people still do. Apple just gave them a million dollars. But what donors don't know is that today the center smears people who don't deserve to be smeared. The presence of radical Islam. This woman grew up in Somalia, suffered female genital mutilation. So now she speaks out against radical Islam. For that, the center put her on its list. Multiculturalism failed these communities. This man was once an Islamic extremist, but then he decided radical
Starting point is 00:42:56 Islam was wrong, and now he criticizes the radicals. The center labeled him an anti-Muslim extremists too. Join the fight against hate and vagetry. Visit SPLCenter.org. I do think that we have a problem with hate in this country. We put about 10 of these major hate groups out of business. The center's leaders, Richard Cohen and Morris Dees, would not talk to me. So commentator Nomecki Kunt stepped up to defend them.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They have a history, a long history of fighting against extremists like the KKK. Years ago, Harper's Magazine reported that the Center the wealthiest civil rights group in America, one that spent most of its time and money on a fundraising campaign. Now, Morris Dees did once promise to stop fundraising once his endowment hit $55 million. But when he reached $55 million,
Starting point is 00:43:48 he changed that to $100 million, saying that would allow them to cease costly fundraising. But when they reached $100 million, they didn't stop. I guess their main claim is they bankrupted the KKK. And that was the only thing people can ever say that they did. Because that's all they did. After that, it was, as you, I think, pointed out on the last show.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It was like the NAN from Sharpton. You know, it's like, we're going to put you on this list until you donate and we'll take you off the list. And so I think that at the time he did this report, it was the $350 million. the endowment, I think it's a billion now. Isn't it a billion? No, no, it's 900 million. Yeah, it's almost a billion. Yes. We play on. Today, they have an endowment that now is over $320 million, much of which is in offshore accounts, Caymans and places like that. How do you know? Oh, we look at their 990s. And it says Cayman Islands. Yeah. They pay some of their people more than 400,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Well, it's 2017. It costs a lot of money to exist in this world. The Southern Poverty Law Center now lists people like Ben Carson, Laura Engram, and Jeannie Piro is extremists. But it doesn't list Antifa, the hate group that beats up
Starting point is 00:45:11 people on the right. The center has become a hate group itself. It's now a left-wing, money-grabbing slander machine. Nice. Stossil. Way to go. Yeah, and we've been saying this for at least 15 years, if you know. Well, everybody's been spiking the ball on this.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, but we actually, but we had proof. Well, so did, I mean, Alex Jones did the same thing at all. But there was one guy, I can't remember his name, but he had, he picked up on this in the 90s. This also report was from 2017. Wow. I mean, right at the get-go, he saw it. saw it coming down Broadway. You know.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So, I mean, it's obviously. And then meanwhile, you have guys like Chris Cuomo coming on and defending them. No. I don't have a clip. No. I have an MS now clip. And during this segment, I didn't clip it. They had SPLC donation ads running during this segment.
Starting point is 00:46:13 The indictment is neckedly political. And it's the Justice Department attorney on itself. Nekidly. I haven't heard. in a long time. Let's hear that again. The indictment is nakedly political. Nicketly. And it's the Justice Department turning on itself.
Starting point is 00:46:32 For years, federal law enforcement worked with the Southern Poverty Law Center to ferret out hate groups and domestic terrorist groups. And recently, the Justice Department canceled its relationship with the Southern Poverty Law Center. So the government has been intimately involved in what the Southern Poverty Law Center has done, which has been an important public service, and that is to ferret out these hate groups, these domestic terrorist groups, these anti-Semitic groups. And this Justice Department, once again, is furthering this pattern and practice of an assault on civil rights through frivolous, politically motivated indictments. Think of Come home. Think of the Attorney General in New York.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm not sure how that has anything to do with it. Yeah, they're grasping at straws. I think these guys are toast. Well, yes. Did you see that gay general Patton has now said that they're going to change the rules about the Form 990? I've been a Form 990 reader from day one on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yes, you're the Form 990 guy. I'll show you. This is your thing. I love the Form 990s. But there's never a disclosure of who gave the money. and now they're going to change those rules that nonprofits have to list. And there may be a level the thing I have to put in there. I'm not sure how they're going to do it because it will be quite burdensome.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You know, some like Ron. You can't do it for every $5, right? No, like, you know, Ronald McDonald's house charities, you know, that have to have pages and pages of supplemental data, maybe. And a lot of people, individuals give money and don't. necessarily want to be known, but that may no longer be possible. But they're definitely going to say, hey, you've got to disclose where your money's coming from. So, and that's why I always question.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Did Apple put out a press release that they were donating a million dollars to the SPLC? Probably did. We're good people. We hate Nazis. We're Apple. Something like that. So I'm still, you know, irked about the, I mean, you know, Tim Cook is leaving.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yes. And they're bringing a new guy. And this follows the old pattern where Steve Jobs gave the company over to Scully. Scully, even though people don't remember this, John Scully racked it up. I think he quadrupled or more the net sales and over what Jobs was able to do.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And then when he was pushed out, it was a disaster. one loser after another came in. I see kind of, I could be wrong. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I see the same thing happening again. Yeah, see, I, because, well, first of all, there's two problems.
Starting point is 00:49:42 We had Steve Jobs, Tim Cook. Now we have John, but the guy has two syllables in his last name. What is his last name? I don't know. Exactly. Two syllables. Can't remember the guy's name. That's already a minus point.
Starting point is 00:49:57 But he's the hardware guy. And the way I see AI going running locally on local machines by happenstance or maybe by design the Apple universal memory on their Apple. Yeah, no, you're more optimistic about this. I think your argument is sound. Let me finish the argument. No one's heard this. Well, I'm going to just say in advance that I'm not going to argue against you. Well, what you could do is let me finish and then not argue.
Starting point is 00:50:23 and that would achieve the same thing without the interruption. That would be less dramatic. This is correct. The Apple, like the Mac Mini, has become the darling machine for OpenClaw. Not that it really does that well and not the people are running local models, but like the Mac Studio,
Starting point is 00:50:43 loaded up to the gills with RAM, people are running local AI models quite successfully on that. The Apple chip and the iPhone also has some, capabilities. I think they're way ahead of the game where AMD is doing this with their chips now. Was it the Risen chip, I think? So I think the local inference of AI may be a winner for Apple long term, in particular because they didn't do what everyone else has done, is cram their phones full of AI garbage. I mean, so I have this Samsung and, you know, it's just, I just want a phone. It doesn't have to do much. I really don't do much with it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I have my, my, my, uh, Graphino S phone for other things. But then all of a sudden it pops up, Hi, I'm Bixby. Do you want to, me to listen to you for your every command, uh, without you touching the phone? Like, no, I don't. Oh, my phone literally just lit up when I said that.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I said, no, I don't want that installed. Just, it keeps popping up. Hi, I'm Bixby. Bixby is here to help you. What the hell is Bixie? Bixby is their Siri. Is there whatever? Bixby. That's as gay as Ask Jeeves.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Bixby. Hello, I'm Bixby. I should install it just to hear how lame it is. Yeah, you should. Maybe you can compete with the Book of Knowledge Robot. Nothing can compete with the Book of Knowledge Robot. Nothing competes with that. So I have a feeling Apple could come out a huge winner,
Starting point is 00:52:16 but that really depends on what kind of snazzy stuff. they can, I mean, for their desktops, maybe. I don't think they're, I don't know about the phones or anything like. I don't know if any of the, if anyone cares about this stuff at all. I'll tell you this. Anthropic has, has yanked the rug what used to be your $20 a month. Well, now you're really paying $100 a month if you want to get the same amount of time and tokens and usage. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:45 And you're $100 a month. Now you've got to pay $200 a month. There's people at the side of the street. street with 10 cups going, hey, man, I just need some tokens. Give me some tokens, man. I need some tokens real bad. The way Anthropic does Claudecote, so you have a monthly, a weekly usage for your $20, $100 or $200 a month account. But then they have per day, you can only do so many hours consecutively, and then it has to reset and you have to wait. and that can be like a three or four hour wait before you're allowed to use it again.
Starting point is 00:53:24 That makes you take a break. Well, of course, then they give you the extra usage that you can buy credits for, which goes at about $2 every 30 seconds. They're giving a, this is the IPO on the way. I think the- Try to balance the books and inventing the IPO. Yes, if you have a $100 account, you're probably getting $2,000 worth of credits.
Starting point is 00:53:52 This is a problem. I don't know if they're going to fix it. Well, let's see how the IPO does. I only have one AI story. Now you brought up AI. No, you got an AI story. Yeah, it's the one about the Florida State shooting. Yeah, there's a couple.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I actually have a story about this. Is this open AI story? Is that what this is? This is AI, Florida. The state of Florida is open. a criminal investigation into open AI because a suspect allegedly used its chatbot to help plan a mass school shooting. Two people died and five were wounded on the Florida State University campus last year from WFSU in Tallahassee. Tristan Wood reports.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Florida Attorney General James Othmeyer says an initial review of chat log shows that Gunman Phoenix Eichner consulted chat GBT for advice over 200 times. My prosecutors have looked at this and they've told me, if it was a person on the other end of that screen, we would be charging them with murder. He says the log show Eichner asking what type of gun to use, what ammo went with it, what time to go to campus to encounter the most people, and more. Now, of course, Chad GPT is not a person, but that does not absolve our office, my prosecution team, of our duty to investigate whether or not there is criminal culpability here for a corporation.
Starting point is 00:55:16 An OpenAI spokesperson called the FSU shooting a tragedy, but says the company is not responsible. The company says Chad GBT gave the kind of factual responses to questions that could be found anywhere on the internet. During the press conference, Uthmire acknowledged it is unclear if his team would be able to identify anyone to criminally charge. We're at the beginning, so I don't know what the intentions of design were. I don't know what people knew and at what time, but I hope that we are able to get those answers. an AI maintains they voluntarily gave the information about the shooter's chat logs to law enforcement, and will
Starting point is 00:55:52 continue to cooperate with authorities. While this is the first criminal probe from a state attorney general, the AI company has been the target of several recent civil lawsuits, including one centered on its involvement in a suicide case. Yeah, this is an interesting, it's
Starting point is 00:56:08 a set of cases. What preceded the Florida FSU shooting is the one in Canada. We begin with breaking news. Breaking A.I. CEO Sam Altman has issued an apology to the community of Tumblr Ridge after failing to alert police about the shooters concerning use of chat GPT. Altman wrote, I am deeply sorry that we did not alert law enforcement to the account that was banned in June.
Starting point is 00:56:37 In February, an 18-year-old shooter opened fire at Tumblr Ridge Secondary School, killing eight people, including six school children, before taking her own. own life. Open AI, the tech company behind ChatGPT, was criticized after it was revealed the shooter's account was flagged for violating policies, but authorities were never informed. So what's interesting is the timeline of OpenAI and their safety team. This is PBS. Current and former OpenAI employees has issued a public letter warning that the company and its rivals are building artificial intelligence with undue risk and without sufficient oversight. They're calling on leading artificial intelligence companies to be more transparent and provide stronger protections for whistleblowers. It comes after OpenAI disbanded its team focused on
Starting point is 00:57:27 long-term AI risks, and two leaders of that group have resigned. We're joined now by NPR technology correspondent, Bobby Allen, who's been covering all of these developments. I don't really need to hear the rest of the story other than before these shootings took place, They were all saying, hey, this stuff is no good. And they got rid of the safety team. And whoever was left resigned from the safety team said no safety team. Well, there's a couple of elements of logic that kind of fascinate me. One, the argument that, well, the opening I is just saying, you know, it was not responsible in any way of criminally because it's just reiterating what's what's out there in the public domain.
Starting point is 00:58:10 but isn't that, wouldn't that be the same if I was asking you for advice and a gun and I was going to go shoot up to Florida State campus and you told me this, that, and the other. Yeah, I think, I think I'd get a knock on the door. Yeah, but it's the same, but the argument would be the same, which is that you're just telling me stuff that's out there on the internet. You're not giving me any information that, you know, that's not available in the public domain. So that argument, I think, is invalid. And the other one is, I thought corporations were supposed to. be deemed as people.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And so they're with the same rights and privileges. So shouldn't the corporation be locked up? Yes. Shudders, in other words? Yes. It's just again. I'm with you. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:58:56 They pay taxes like a person. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. The problem that Open AI has, and I think Elon Musk has this too, is they, went all consumer. They wanted to to
Starting point is 00:59:14 their mentalists. I was like, come on. This is great. You got a buddy. You got a little Tomagachi. He grows with you. He remembers you. He loves you.
Starting point is 00:59:25 He's going to help you. And Anthropic really didn't do that. They went code. We'll just make code. We're going to get rid of code. And so, and Musk, all he ever, if you look at his ex post, this is all AI.
Starting point is 00:59:40 there's no one real in this video. Like, who cares? And he always has these kind of like semi, like home. You see the one Darren O'Neill did? No. They got hometown American girls, all American girls.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Darren O'Neill did a video promoting a 700th show. Oh, yeah. And it's, you know, some hottie and somebody else talking about, let's tune in. Yeah. Breast falling out of her top. I wonder what, have you ever seen a picture of Darren?
Starting point is 01:00:14 I wonder what he looks like. Yeah, there's a, there's pictures that I'm floating around. I've never seen a picture. And in fact, I don't want to see a picture of Darren. I have a picture in my mind. Well, what's the picture in your mind? Well, he's very tall. I know, I think he's taller than I am.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I think he's, you know, is one of these chiseled jaw, you know. Oh, yeah, think Fabio. Yes, that is the picture I have in my mind. Darren O'Neill is Fabio. Nailed it. But maybe it was short hair. Fabio. Fabio with a B, Fabio.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah. Oh, Fabio, Fabio, Fabio. To me. And, you know, he should never be seen. That is the theater of the mind. He just did his 700th episode of the rock and roll pre-show. And, you know, he is the quintessential rock DJ. Exactly what he shows in those videos.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah, in those posts. Yeah. Well, he's like a, he's got a t-shirt on, he's buff. He's got, you know, he's got a scruff beard. All this is missing with jokes. Yeah, well, there's that. And the good music. Well, yeah, he plays nothing but live mixes that are, I think they're dressed.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Well, no, but he thinks that that by playing live mixes, somehow it's legal to play those. That's the big joke. Yeah, somehow, because they're a lot. Because they're live performances, it's okay. There's no issue there. There's a ticket. Yes. Soon in jail. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So King Charles is coming with Camilla. This is all very exciting, people. Buckingham Palace releasing more trip details as King Charles, the third and Queen Camilla prepared to visit the U.S. later this month. Here's what we know. They'll start in Washington, D.C., where President Trump will hold a welcome ceremony. Then the king will address Congress before a state banquet at the White House. They also plan to visit New York to commemorate victims of 9-11.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Next up, Virginia for a block party celebrating America's 250th birthday. The palace says this trip is to recognize the shared history of our two nations on the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. So they're literally going to the Yorktown battlefield where George Washington kick the red coats. I mean, this is not a celebration for him. That doesn't sound like something you do. Well, I think Charles is here to negotiate the terms of surrender with Trump. It's like, you're done, Charles. We got you.
Starting point is 01:02:52 We got your banking connections to all the oil, to all the drugs, everything that you've been screwing with us for years, our special relationship, or we're the dumb muscle for any war that you start. And the Brits are not happy about this visit. I feel sorry for him, going and, you know, sitting down to a state dinner with a man who has insulted the British troops in Afghanistan and said they weren't particularly important and weren't needed. Is it a good idea for the king to go to the United States next month?
Starting point is 01:03:23 I think it's an acute embarrassment to tell the truth. No, I don't think it's a good idea. And I was rather hoping that they might find a way of dodging the column by postponing the visit while what was going on in Iran was going on and say this is not perhaps an appropriate moment to go. I mean, I pity the king. I mean, he's at the mercy of the government. The government says go, he goes. Just like, remember, the queen had to entertain Chowchesky,
Starting point is 01:03:54 murderous dictator from Romania. That's their job. That's their job. Exactly, that's their job. But I feel sorry for him, going and, you know, sitting down to a state dinner with a man who has insulted the British truce. in Afghanistan. Yeah, you said that. They weren't particularly important and weren't needed.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Who's insulted, I'm not talking about insulting the government, but insulted our Royal Navy. You know, goes out of his way to be rude about Britain and about NATO and who's a narcissist and a bully. It's a bully. There it is. He's a bully. Well, that was David Dimbleby.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Here's Ed Davey. Prime Minister's question time. Mr. Speaker, in a phone call with Sky News last night, present. Trump has threatened to rip up his trade deal with the UK as punishment for us not joining his idiotic war in Iran. The Speaker, this must be the last straw. Surely the Prime Minister can't send our king to meet a man who treats our country like a mafia boss running a protection racket.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Hey, who you call in a mafia? Ardon, are you crazy? Andrew Marr, though. Do we wait, do you remember during Trump's first? first term where the parliament was going to ban him from even visiting the UK? Yes, yes. Yeah. But you see, we've beaten them into submission.
Starting point is 01:05:17 That's what, one more from Andrew Marr from, he's now on, I think he used to be on BBC. I don't know if he's still on the BBC, but this is his LBC, his broadcast. It should all be cancelled now, really, of course, by the- I wonder if they're afraid the king is actually going to sign the terms of surrender. Prime Minister. The possible benefit is far too small. The dangers too great. Even if it all went well...
Starting point is 01:05:43 Well, maybe he'll tell us what the dangers are. If it all went well and President Trump behaved himself with the monarchy, describes as a gentleman, how much credit would be one for Britain? Some, a smidgen, a pinch. A pinch. A pinch. For ten minutes. Maybe an hour.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Perhaps even if we're lucky a day. And then Trump would change his mind again and cancel the trade deal or further undermine the NATO alliance or be abusive. This sounds like a bunch of scarty cats to me who have no Navy. Their own generals came out and said, yeah, you know, we don't even know where most of the stuff is and it won't start. And we don't know if it still works. And we really haven't done anything for over a decade. And so now it's Trump's fault. Finally, I wouldn't use words like gangster, but you cannot trust this man.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And perhaps to his credit, you cannot buy him either. After last year's second stay visit to the UK, where he was smothered with praise and ceremonial pomp, he started attacking Britain again on the flight home and carried on at the United Nations, making wild claims about Sharia law. The epithets he used about British... Have you seen the northern part of your country, Andrew Mar? Yes, he overnight. This time, it's...
Starting point is 01:07:04 included insane, tragic and sad. So anyone who assumes that putting the king and queen alongside him in Washington this spring will make things sunnier, I am afraid, just hasn't checked the record. And the dangers are obvious. The humiliation of the monarch, Trump grabbing the microphone to say something offensive to which the king cannot reply. Oh, there's your dangers, John. Humiliation of the monarch.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Look, we have tried flattering the president's ego. we have tried obsequious. It doesn't work. I'm sure King Charles would see all of this as his national duty, gritty's teeth and do his stuff, and probably crossed fingers, it will go off okay. But I wonder whether in private the king doesn't quietly agree with the leader of the Liberal Democrats and feel there has been enough kissing of the rod, sucking up of criticism and swallowing of pride. Ooh, sucking and swallowing. Wow, Andrew Moore going all out. out. So this is about soft power, you see, we need the soft power of the monarch to come and try and
Starting point is 01:08:11 smooth things over with NATO and to still be the fighting arm whenever the UK needs us. It's an important visit this and it's very important for the king to go over there as if you like, our most important envoy that we have. It is a political visit. It is a soft power diplomacy at its height. The king, after all, you know, is somebody that has been doing this. in the sort of number two role for quite some time. He knows how these things operate and he does it very well behind closed doors. He's a very respected man.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And I think that the president will respect his visit and actually warmly welcome him and not embarrassing. So what this is really about us, about our military defending the UK whenever they want us to, which we've done historically. And President Trump's view is we haven't gotten much out of that. This is from the House of Lords
Starting point is 01:09:00 the discussion about the military, military. And as the U.S. undergoes such changes, the United Kingdom must adjust as well. Firstly, it's clear that our high level of military dependence on the U.S. is no longer tenable. President Trump's demands about a greater European contribution are just a dramatic manifestation of a longer term American anxiety about imbalances within NATO. our reliance on the United States predicated on the naive belief that it will always be there to support us in times of conflict. But it's not, exactly. And have you heard about the latest in the Falklands? No, this I have not heard.
Starting point is 01:09:53 So the Falklands is a little piece that's connected to Argentina, which is a bit, you know the history better than I would. but it's contested, I would say. Well, not contested by the Brits. No, not by the Brits. They own it, and that's that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a little kerfuffle in 1982 about it. Here's the latest that's happening based upon a leaked memo from the Pentagon,
Starting point is 01:10:25 which I don't think anyone believes was an actual accidental leak. at Knau, Downing Street, says the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands rests with the UK after it emerged that the Pentagon has been considering options to punish NATO allies for not supporting it with its war in Iran. The US official told Reuters that possible sanctions include pushing for Spain's suspension from NATO and reviewing Britain's ownership of the Falklands. Well, our world news correspondent, Joe Inwood, gave me the latest. I think it's fair to say that this, if this became official State Department of Fish and American, policy, it will be really very severe indeed. We should say at the moment, this is just a briefing document. This is, you know, an unverified internal thing at the moment. But what this is is another example of the Americans trying to sort of punish their traditional allies for what they see as
Starting point is 01:11:17 their lack of involvement in the Iran war. Yeah, exactly. We're going to needle you. Trump seems to be trying to get into Britain's heads, if you like, these constant attacks on Stama against of course the king arriving on Monday but I mean I feel quite sorry for the king with the level of diplomacy that he's being asked to carry with him but I think when Trump is playing his games
Starting point is 01:11:45 he's trying to make the point that he wasn't supported properly by us in Iran that Spain of course as well he's threatening to throw Spain out of NATO which possibly is a rather bigger story in some ways but he is looking, I think, to needle us and to try and make it clear that we didn't come up to, we didn't come up to spec. And so that's why he's come up with this. It's interesting because the statement came from the Pentagon, the State Department, which are the equivalent of the Foreign Office in America, have claimed to know nothing about it.
Starting point is 01:12:19 So there might be some sort of internal D.C. Beltway politics going on here. You think? But bear in mind, the Americans have never, they've always been neutral about the Falklands. They have never said it is a British possession, it is not a British possession. Also bear in mind that Reagan and Thatcher, who were leading Britain and America at the time, had a close relationship and there was undoubtedly a lot of covert US help in 1982. So, yeah, this is obviously completely related. And the king's coming over.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And, hey, King, you know, I don't know about, I'm, I mean, I should go on Kalshi in place a bet that Trump will say something about the Falklands. You know, hey, why don't you go visit this battleground where we kicked your butt? Enjoy that. Have a good look there, Charles. And then there's the close relationship with Millet, which just makes things worse for Britain. And obviously, Donald Trump is quite close to Argentina's president, Javier Millet. So there's, you know, there's a potential sort of axis there.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I mean, it does look like Argentina is re-arming. Does the UK military have enough footprint to protect the Falklands? Because I've heard many people in the military saying, well, we couldn't do what we did in the Falklands War now. I think that's definitely a worry. And Argentina are rearming with the help of actually NATO allies. They bought F-16 jets from Denmark and the Americans are helping with the missiles for those jets. And meanwhile, the UK footprint in the Falklands, you know, they've got fours. four typhoons there. They've got under 1,000 troops. And they've recently pulled out a Voyager refueling aircraft to take on a task as a result of the Middle East crisis. So I think there would be genuine concerns about what the UK would be able to do to defend the islands. And of course,
Starting point is 01:14:15 remember during the Falkland War, we had an awful lot of aircraft and ships. And at the moment, We don't really have any ships that would be available to send there. And if we did, it would take an awful long time to get there. So I think there's definitely a perceived vulnerability there. Trump games to the max. Yeah, it's pretty funny. I love it. You have that clip of McCrone going to China?
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, do you have that? No, I don't. I should have. It was a mistake of my part. No. McCrone goes to China and starts speaking for the EU and bad mouths of the U.S. It was kind of a fiasco. We'll get to that in the next show.
Starting point is 01:14:59 But I want to change gears and talk about Big Pharma for a second. Okay. Big Pharma, it is. First of all, because there was a hearing in Germany with one of the ex-Fizer guys. Yeah. A hot shot. And I have three clips of that. And it's just disgusting to,
Starting point is 01:15:23 listen to these stories and mostly this is about COVID-19 vaccine. What a, yeah. I mean, how long is they going to keep this thing on the market? How long is that guy from UCSF at the Bay Area going to come on TV and say, get another COVID shot? You haven't gotten enough. He's on TV in, in, in, this guy hung. He's hung.
Starting point is 01:15:43 There's a guy, it keeps coming. He's on all the local stations and he comes on. Oh, yeah, the new shot's been reformulated. It's great. Reformulated. It's new COVID shot. But let's listen to this pharma executive, Pfizer executive. This is translated so you have, you know, they're speaking German.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Yeah. And, but it's very educational, part one. Dr. Stelz, you worked as the chief toxicologist for Pfizer Europe. Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. I was responsible there for all animal experiments related to drug safety. Thank you. My questions concern community.
Starting point is 01:16:23 from Pfizer-Biontech. You have dealt extensively with the approval of this vaccine and the documentation. Is that correct? That is correct. Was the carcinogenicity of this vaccine tested prior to approval? No, the carcinogenic risk was not investigated due to time constraints. By the way, I find it very worrying and also regrettable that no alternative studies were conducted.
Starting point is 01:16:48 We are observing in Germany, but also in many other countries, that the birth rate plummeted following the vaccination campaign. Yes, you are referring to studies concerning reproduction. A study on rats using community was inadequately conducted. Consequently,
Starting point is 01:17:06 no reliable assessments of the vaccine's effect on pregnancy or the development of offspring were possible. Nothing had been learned from the thaladomide disaster. According to the RKI protocol, approval was granted in a fast-track procedure.
Starting point is 01:17:22 This meant that essential toxicity studies were sacrificed for the sake of speed without acceptable justification. I know of no case with a comparable indication in which all these studies were omitted. Thus, the approval led to prohibited human trials. Wow. But surely they've done these studies now on carcinogenicity on the new, new, new, new COVID vaccine. Oh, yeah? No? Not that I know of.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Okay. Here we go. So the RKI had noted internally at the time that side effects and vaccine-related injuries were only to be investigated after the product had been launched. Hey, maybe we can use this guy's voice for the book of knowledge. Sounds a little more fun. What came of that? Pfizer's post-marketing report mentioned over 1,200 suspected deaths within just two months of approval. Comerity should have been withdrawn from the market by then at the latest.
Starting point is 01:18:25 If I am correctly informed, the Paul Ehrlich Institute has received 2,133 reports of deaths following Commernity to date. With these spontaneous reports, there is a high number of unreported cases due to underreporting. The actual number is therefore much higher. In the US, an underreporting factor of 30 is assumed, by which the registered, cases should be multiplied. For Germany, that would correspond to 60,000 deaths caused by the vaccine. 60,000. So the federal government is withholding the important Safewark and KV data on vaccination injuries, and the majority of this commission has even refused to request this data. Could vaccine injuries and deaths have been avoided with approval compliant with the regulations?
Starting point is 01:19:16 Yes, because community should not have been approved at all under the regulations. nations. Wow. And community was the good vaccine, if you remember. That was the one you kind of wanted if you had to take it anyway. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Now, this part kind of bothers me. And again, this brings up my never-ending complaint about liability issues. You know, if people could sue, none of this would happen. Well, can they sue in Germany? I guess they can sue in Germany. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know the rules in Germany. They probably did the same thing there. Currently, many vaccine-injured individuals in Germany are fighting for compensation for pain and suffering.
Starting point is 01:20:01 They often lose because the courts say community has a positive risk-benefit ratio. Is this assumption justified? In my view, absolutely not. Community was not tested at all during clinical development for the prevention of severe illness or deaths. Pfizer documents therefore do not indicate a positive risk benefit ratio at all. Mathematician Robert Rockenfeller from the University of Koblenz estimates that for every severe case of COVID-19, that community allegedly prevents, there are 25 severe side effects. Okay. Did age-adjusted mortality in Germany decline after the start of this vaccination campaign? No. Mortality rose significantly from 2021 to 2022 compared to 2020.
Starting point is 01:20:47 to 2020. If there had been a positive risk-benefit ratio, mortality should have declined when the vaccine became available in early 2021. That makes sense. Did the population receive the active ingredient during the vaccination campaign that Pfizer tested in the shortened emergency approval process? No. A highly purified substance was used for the clinical trial before approval. It was too expensive for mass production. The public received a vaccine. produced using the Escherichia coli bacterium. The result is significant contamination with bacterial DNA and the consequence could be a heavily increased risk of cancer.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Thank you very much. So, you know, Ron Johnson is the guy in the United States who does stuff like this. This is not like it's anything new. We know this. We've known this. This has been out there. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And it just keeps coming out with more and more. It's like piling on and they still, don't stop distributing this stuff. So why is that? Well, you tell me. And now listen to this guy. Now, this is Dr. Eric Berg, who had this little ditty that I thought, I thought this was an eye opener.
Starting point is 01:22:05 And a lot of it has to do with the corruption of the pharma and the FDC. And listen to this. So in 2007, Congress passed a law. And it says if you run a drug study in America, you have to, you have to. to post the results, all of them, not just the ones that worked, but the ones that did not work and the ones that were they hurt people as well. And that's the law. And when I say results, I'm not talking about we did a study. I mean, the actual numbers, did the drugs work on the thing you said that they were measuring, how many people got sick, how many people died, all of that
Starting point is 01:22:39 is required by law. Because if a company runs 10 studies and only two out of eight work, and they only show the good ones and suppress the bad ones, then the doctor and the patient are misled, especially in the consent form, the informed consent when patients sign off that they know the risks and benefits. So that's a law for about 19 years. The fine for breaking this law is about $13,000 a day per trial omitted. So every day they're late, the meter runs. 13 grand per day. So take a wild guess. how many fines the FDA has collected in those 19 years. Zero.
Starting point is 01:23:21 If you guess zero, you are correct. Zero, not a dollar. So Oxford University did the math. And if the FDA had enforced the law, pharma would owe $19 billion. Three weeks ago, in March, the new FDA commissioner, Dr. Marty McCarrie, put out this announcement,
Starting point is 01:23:41 and he said pharma has been suppressing unfavorable clinical trial results. And he used the word suppressing, which means hiding, not showing, omitting. So this is like the first time a commissioner in that job has come out in the open and said it.
Starting point is 01:23:57 He sent messages to 2,200 companies, 2,200. And the message wasn't a fine. It was just saying, hey, you know, we see you, we know you're out of compliance. You have to fix it. That's it. And you might say that's a little thing,
Starting point is 01:24:13 but just take a look at the enforcement that happened in the last 19 years. The only letters that were sent out were like eight in 19 years. So the only thing I can hope is that RFK Jr. is doing two things in parallel. One is getting all the healthy stuff in, the maha stuff, which I think he's been doing pretty good. job. We've, you know, brought back a real food pyramid. We're getting rid of all kinds of things that shouldn't be in our food. We're trying to educate people about what is real food. Some of the food companies are changing. But I hope in parallel he is building a monster, because he is a lawyer, this is what he's been doing. He sued pharma companies for his entire career. I hope he's building a monster case
Starting point is 01:25:07 that will send people to the electric chair. And, you know, and he has another. couple years to do it, I really, really, really hope that. Because that, to me, was a big part of the Trump administration was when Kennedy jumps in and says, I'm going to be a part of this. And we know he knows it's bull crap. We know he knows that this stuff was bad and dangerous. Now, you laugh because, I mean, do you think that that's not even in the cards that he won't do that?
Starting point is 01:25:36 I mean, he doesn't seem like he's a feared kind of guy. I think he wants to do it. I think the team around him wants to do it, but there is so much embedded, uh, and there's so much corruption by pharma. I mean, there's,
Starting point is 01:25:56 where's the $19 billion you could have collected? Uh, uh, now they got nothing. They got zero collected. Uh, and you have the liability scam and you have the advertising on TV scam, and you have capture of the media,
Starting point is 01:26:12 and you have, have, you know, these guys that come on TV that promote this stuff and they get paid to do it. And the networks get extra money. So that's it. He gives up. We just, I can't do it. It's too big. I'm going to die, not having tried.
Starting point is 01:26:27 That's what it looks like to me. Well, I'll be very disappointing. Well, we'll all be disappointed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that was a bummer. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Oh, sorry. Let's Let me do a little update on Iran With just a quick little Some financial economic fury Update from the gay general patent Just to put a fine point on this though Is the president in the process of winding down this war
Starting point is 01:26:59 Say what? To put a fine point on his data Yeah well this is Mannhans Welker So yeah Again they're not mutual exclusive Sometimes you have to escalate to deescalate Chris. Oh. Okay. NBC News is reporting that President Trump is considering sending troops into Iran. Will the administration use troops to secure the straight of her moose or for any other reason?
Starting point is 01:27:23 Why is she asking the Secretary of the Treasury these questions is what I want to know. How would he know? This happens all the time. You've pointed this out before. This is not the first time that he's been grilled on stuff that he's not should have any connection to. Well, he is he is the general patent. the Secretary. Again, as President Trump said during the press break, yesterday when he was going out to Marine 1, he's not going to give away what we're going to do. As President Trump always does, he's leaving all options on the table. We had a very successful bombing campaign against the military installations at Carg Island, the nexus for all the Iranian oil supply. What could happen with Carg Island? We'll see. And again, just to be clear, the command and control system of the Iranian regime is in chaos.
Starting point is 01:28:16 This is Hitler's bunker. Hitler is dead. Hymler is dead. Goring is dead. Oh, no. Ava Gardner is dead. Most of what you're seeing are lone wolf activities. The mid-range ICBM that was shot off, these two missiles yesterday, that's out of desperation, Kristen.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Well, he knows a lot for a money guy. You bring up Carg Island. I want to ask you about your statement. You said it could become a U.S. asset. What exactly does that mean? Could U.S. troops go into Carg Island to secure it? Again, as I said, all options are on the table. Okay, so that's a possibility. All options are on the table. All right. Let me talk about your announcement this past week. On Friday, the Treasury Department lifted sanctions on Iranian oil stored on tankers. Now, I chose this because the previous clip that we played on the show ago, he was doing the math and he was fighting with his calculator. But he did it wrong because he said 60% of 150 or do you want just $100. And his math was off on the 60%. So he's changed that now in his answer. A move that would effectively allow Iran to get more than $14 billion. of oil revenue?
Starting point is 01:29:32 Hold on. Why is the U.S. helping to fund a country that it's currently at war with, Mr. Secretary? Again, Kristen, why don't we have good facts here? That Iranian oil was always going to be sold to the Chinese. It was going to be sold at a discount. So which is better, Kristen?
Starting point is 01:29:51 Which is better? If oil prices spiked to $150 and they were getting 70% of that, or oil prices below 100. It's better have them where they are now. And to be clear, we had always planned for this contingency.
Starting point is 01:30:06 About 140 million barrels are out on the water. In essence, we are jujitsuing the Iranians. We are using their own oil against them. We have a much better line of sight, to be clear, a treasury
Starting point is 01:30:22 when this oil goes to, if it goes to Indonesia, if it goes to Japan, if it goes to Korea, we have a much better line of sight and are able to block accounts that the oil goes into. When it goes into China, it completely gets recycled. So to be clear, that 14 billion... I don't understand that.
Starting point is 01:30:42 The two things he says here, one is we get to block the accounts that the oil goes into. I mean, maybe the accounts that will be paying for the oil, but I don't know, does someone go to the bank and say, here's some oil? And then... I don't know what he's talking about. And what do you know about recycled? But the Chinese reselling it to somebody else? I think that's what he means, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:06 No, but that's not what they do with the oil. They use the stuff. As you're saying, they recycle it. Line of sight and are able to block accounts that the oil goes into. When it goes into China, it completely gets recycled. So to be clear, that $14 billion number is grossly overstated. Let me unpack what you're just saying. First of all, how much is it?
Starting point is 01:31:28 And second of all, I don't hear you. disputing that Iran will get some of the money. Iran already gets a huge amount of the money because Iran is the largest sponsor of state terrorism and China has been funding them. China's the connection there? They get a lot of money because they're the sponsor of state terrorism?
Starting point is 01:31:46 Yeah, he's not saying. Which the logic in the day shows about illogic. And here is the president with the latest on the negotiations. Today, President Trump canceled plans for his top envoys. Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner to travel to Pakistan for negotiations with Iran aimed at ending the war. The president spoke in Florida right before returning to Washington, D.C. We're not going to spend 15 hours in airplanes all the time going back and forth to be giving a document that was not good enough.
Starting point is 01:32:18 We got Zoom. And so we'll deal by telephone and they can call us anytime they want. Tonight, Iran's foreign minister who left Pakistan. is questioning whether the U.S. is serious about diplomacy. I agree. Zoom call, people. Let's save some money, save some time. Zoom call. So I was sent a clip, which I'd never seen before. And I think it's Mike Wallace interviewing the then-Shah of Iran. Have you seen this clip? Yes, I have. Good, because I was puzzled by it.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Have you seen the lines of cars stretching for blocks? in some cases for miles. This is 1974, the gas, the oil shortage, the gas crisis. Waiting to get gas. I have seen the pictures. And you cannot get... But you have imported more oil than any time in the past. Well, not recently we haven't.
Starting point is 01:33:14 You have? You mean we are still importing more oil than we were, let's say, in September? You believe that? I can't say for sure. But what is certain is that you are not... importing less. Then we were importing last September, then this whole thing is a fraud?
Starting point is 01:33:36 You know that ships are changing their destinations two or three times in the oceans? You will sell the oil for a certain destination and it ends up somewhere else? What you seem to be saying is that there is some fraud involved, that there is something going on that doesn't meet the eye. Oh, something is going on for sure.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And who is being enriched by it? The oil companies. The oil companies. You know that one oil company has made 67% interest this year, and another one even more? Well, the president of Aramco acknowledges. Yes? Not the president.
Starting point is 01:34:21 The chairman of the board of Aramco acknowledged to us that their profits the parent company will go up by 400% next year, just as Iran's profits will go up by 400%. Yes, but this is our wealth, our natural wealth. For them, it's only a question of manipulation. So the implication here, 1974, I'm old enough to remember, I was not in America in the gas lines, but I was in the Netherlands, where we had car-free Sundays.
Starting point is 01:34:49 There was no driving on Sunday because there wasn't enough oil to make gasoline for the entire country. What I'm hearing the Shah say here is that it wasn't that the oil wasn't available, but it was being diverted by nefarious actors to other places. Yeah, it's cute. Did you know this? Do you think that's true? Well, it was never documented that to be true.
Starting point is 01:35:16 It was supposed to be a shortage. We weren't getting enough. Or the prices were going up, and they kind of create, created a shortage because of the price. I don't know, maybe. Well, I mean, it's possible. Well, here's the coincidence. I mean, I went through that.
Starting point is 01:35:35 I was working for the air pollution district. And since I had a car or a government car, I didn't have any of these issues. I just drove it around. He just drove it around. Did you go to the government pump and get filled up whenever you wanted? We didn't have any government pumps,
Starting point is 01:35:53 but I never had, I don't remember waiting in long lines. I just don't. So the oil baron had given me a book to read a couple weeks, a couple months ago I talked about it, I think briefly. The men who run the world, the people who run the world, and it's about the commodity traders, the people who actually buy the stuff and, you know, they're organizing ghost ships and loading and offloading from one ship to the next.
Starting point is 01:36:19 And, oh, you need some oil from Libya. Don't worry, we'll go in. We know guys on the ground. They won't shoot us. And it's a really good book. And the Freakonomics podcast had the authors of this book on just this week. And here's their version of what happens during the 70s with an old show favorite, Mark Rich. And Mark Rich, we know because he wound up in Switzerland and was pardoned by President Clinton on the last day.
Starting point is 01:36:52 of his presidency, and he arguably was the guy who really put commodity trading on the map. A lot of what you needed to do to make money in the oil trade in those early days was to have a good enough relationship with one of the big oil producers that they would sell you oil at a price that was probably too low. One of his big trade flows was through this extremely secretive pipeline that went through Israel that was built. as a joint venture between Israel and Iran, before the fall of the Shah, in great secrecy. And Mark Rich would be buying Iranian oil, putting it through the pipeline, supplying Israel, but also supplying Europe through this pipeline, which then became enormously valuable.
Starting point is 01:37:38 When the Suez Canal closed in 1967, after Israel launched an attack on Egypt and Syria, this brief war was over, but the Suez Canal stayed closed until 1975. And for Mark Rich, that was a gift from the gods, and he made huge amounts of money. Mark Rich became this almost larger than life figure in commodity trading, the most profitable commodity trader ever. We spoke to a number of former senior people at Mark Rich who said that the company made a billion dollars of profit in 1979, the year of the Iranian Revolution, which in those days would have made it one of the 10 largest companies in America, and this was a company owned by a small handful of people that only people in the commodities industry had
Starting point is 01:38:18 ever heard of. But that didn't last because Mark Rich caught the attention of US law and particularly of Rudy Giuliani, then a prosecutor, who indicted him for tax fraud and for trading with Iran during the hostage crisis. So he and his partner Pinky Green fled the US to Switzerland, became fugitives from US justice, and then carried on their business of being the world's largest commodity trading house, despite this US indictment hanging over there. I had, first of all, a name like Pinky Green is just awesome. Everybody needs a friend whose name is Pinky Green. But I didn't know that Giuliani was involved in that.
Starting point is 01:38:59 And to me, yeah, this kind of rings true. This might have been a manufactured crisis by a bunch of shysters running around doing all this oil business with Iran and Israel of all two countries. Come on. We're being hoodwinked about all of this stuff. all of this stuff is fake and gay. What you're paying at the pump now, fake and gay. All of it. This is all manipulation.
Starting point is 01:39:27 They have one more clip here about today's situation. And Giuliani's a suspicious character. Have you heard Kyriaku talk about him? No, Kiriaku's all on the up and up too. These are all suspicious characters. None of them are any good. If Mark Rich were starting out today, what would he be doing? He'd probably be trying to train.
Starting point is 01:39:47 made Russian, Iranian, Venezuelan oil, selling it to India and China. I think what happened here is Trump became the new Mark Rich. He's like, well, I can do this. I'll just do it for America. Those are the dodgy bits of the oil market where there is huge amount of money to be made and which rely on having good connections and a willingness to bend or break the rules. Now, somebody is doing that plainly. Lots of people are doing that. For the most part, not the principal characters of our book, because the principal characters of our book have become such enormous companies that they're too reliant on the US dollar system to risk falling foul of the US government. For the most part, that Russian oil flow, for example, Iranian oil flow,
Starting point is 01:40:29 which is subject to even stricter sanctions, has gone into the hands of more shadowy traders. There's this new set of traders that has popped up in Dubai, who changes name every few months, including sometimes because they get sanctioned by the US government, which is involved in trading a lot of the Russian oil, a lot of the Iranian oil gets traded or even bartered directly by Chinese companies and Chinese buyers, sometimes gets shipped via Malaysia, where it gets rebranded as Malaysian oil, and then imported into China as Malaysian rather than Iranian oil. There are political scientists who make the argument that sanctions often fail for a variety of reasons. Do they factor in what you're talking about right now, which is just that there
Starting point is 01:41:11 are shadowed dealers, essentially, who are finding ways to get around the sanctions? one of the key arguments for why people say that sanctions don't work, particularly sanctions on things like commodities, because if commodities are produced, then as a rule, they tend to flow and they tend to find a market because they're fungible. It's quite hard to trace them. I wouldn't say it's universally true. For example, in 2012, when the US and Europe ratcheted up sanctions on Iran, Iranian oil production and exports did fall pretty substantially. This whole thing. There's so much. much we're not aware of. There's a lot going on with this. I pray that Trump knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:41:55 He must have some view of this of what's happening. And Besson, I think the money part. Probably does for sure. Yeah. The money part, I think they've kind of got that nailed down. Well, we're just pawns in the game. Oh, we're just podcaster pawns. We're just podcast. The worst. Oh, speaking of podcasters, they're all turning on Trump, man. The Manosphere podcasters are turning on Trump. Something's changed. On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history. That was the winning election promise.
Starting point is 01:42:30 This is the reality. Arrests at workplaces and hardware stores. And some of those huge supporters now publicly cooling. The storming into the Friken Home Depot and arresting people? No, no, that's not cool either. The military in the street, I think, is a dangerous precedent. Heard you got deported, dude. Theo Von, furious that this video of his was used by the government in an immigration promo.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Aidan Ross, who gave Trump a Tesla, now going in the other direction. So you both voted first time last year, right? Yes. For Trump? Yes. How do these podcasts affect your vote? I kind of be able to hear him talk for three hours. It kind of gets you a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:43:09 This is who he is. He's a little bit more human. When you see these Manusphere podcasters moving away from the president, what do you make of all of that? I think it's important to make it. your own decisions and not blindly follow like a celebrity or a podcast or just because you enjoy watching their show. Yeah, that was CNN. Here's MS. But the other risk is that they are now potentially turning Donald Trump into a cultural punchline, right? That he's an idiot, that his supporters are dorks, that he's been fooled into doing all this stuff and that he's a failure.
Starting point is 01:43:39 And, you know, Donald Trump, for better or for worse, has had an incredible ability to shape the perceptions of him and the cultural relevance that he has. And to a degree, he loses that control when these people turn on him, when his own supporters turn on him. And that hasn't really happened in the entirety of his political career. These people are not MAGA. They are just politically curious podcasters who kind of got sucked in and came to support Trump.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Now, you ask, is it dangerous? Of course, it's dangerous politically, but is it justified? And I would argue it is justified because there are a host of promises that Donald Trump made to this sector. in particular, but the voters in general that he's just not followed through on. It's not just to stay out of Middle East Wars. It's not just to be completely transparent on the Epstein files. He literally said he would bring down gasoline prices by half.
Starting point is 01:44:30 So for the people who email me, I've noticed this trend. And the trend is two terms, defending and supporting. Because the emails I get is, you know, well, yeah, it's okay. But, you know, you're defending Trump. You're supporting Trump. And just because I don't think either of us are our hair on fire slamming Trump, which is what the audience captured podcasts are doing because their audiences are very similar to ours. You're supporting Trump.
Starting point is 01:45:09 You're defending him. We're giving you analysis. We're trying to figure out what. is going on, what his strategy would be, presuming that he's not stupid. Or nuts. Or nuts. Or senile. So you're going to get a different result by listening to the No Agenda podcast.
Starting point is 01:45:32 That doesn't mean we're defending or supporting anything. We're trying to see it from, I've learned in the 18 years we've been doing this and really has been during the show that the world. that you see is usually if you turn it upside down, that's the reality of it. It's the strangest thing. If everyone's going right, you should be looking left. Don't look over here, look over there. So when everyone's saying Trump is nuts and he's senile and he's demented and he's a liar
Starting point is 01:46:03 and he doesn't know what he's doing, I'm looking for the thing where maybe it's exactly the opposite. So the only thing I'll defend is our analysis. And I think it's good that we do that. I think you should cherish what we're doing. And most people will say, I'm not going to stop listening, but you're wrong. You're defending and supporting it. No, we're giving you a different analysis.
Starting point is 01:46:27 And you should be happy about that different analysis. It may strengthen your own beliefs. It may make you question them. But either way, please don't write these long emails explaining how we've gone off the rails. I don't see it. I'm sorry? I don't see this going off the rails. No.
Starting point is 01:46:48 If you wanted to say something was off to rails, have a clip. Okay, he's got something. He's got a clip. And off the rails clip. I think now this is funny. Trump administration approves firing squads. All right, Ryan Nobles joins us live in studio. And Ryan,
Starting point is 01:47:05 another headline we're tracking from the Justice Department. They're bringing back firing squads for federal executions. Yeah, that's right, Tom. The Biden administration had placed a moratorium on federal executions. But the Trump administration is lifting that ban and planning to reintroduce other forms of execution beyond lethal injections like firing squads. Tom, they say it's to streamline the process and speed up those executions. I personally, okay, first of all, I'm all for all of this. I just want the TV rights. This is all I've ever asked for. I think I think that if I had the
Starting point is 01:47:39 TV rights to all firing squads. Dana Brunetti would find the money to back us to do this television show. I also think the guillotine would be a good, cool thing to bring back. The guillotine would be cool, especially if they lift the head up with it, guys. By the air. By the hair. And the mouth going up and down. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:48:02 That would be entertainment. Speaking of entertainment, the biggest box office smash. Have you heard? what Michael Jackson but you did this based on the Broadway play right well this is the biopic this is this is the loop this is a biopic this is not the the Broadway show that's no no no no this is the
Starting point is 01:48:27 biopic it's a big production Lionsgate here we got a clip ready whenever you are Michael Michael Michael Michael explores his assent to superstardom from the Jackson 5 and a childhood in the spotlight in the fight for it. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:48:45 To escaping his abusive father and manager Joe Jackson's grip. I need to think. I told you what to think. The title role is played by the King of Pop's nephew Jafar Jackson. What I want the world to feel. The biopic
Starting point is 01:49:02 ends in 1984 at the peak of Michael's thriller superstardom. But it glosses over a central part of his life story. The child sex abuse allegations that still haunt his legacy. The filmmakers say they planned on tackling the allegations, which first surfaced in 1993, but that they were cut because of legal constraints.
Starting point is 01:49:26 One's understanding of Michael Jackson is not complete if you refuse to look at the whole picture. The Jackson estate, which was involved in the film, maintains his innocence and calls the claims against him lies and money grabs. The pop star was acquitted in 2005 and died. four years later. We'd drive in. But the allegations would ramp up again in the 2019 documentary leaving Neverland. Hello, Wade.
Starting point is 01:49:54 The documentary's director spoke to the Hollywood reporter about the new film, saying people just don't care about the allegations, even if, in his view, Jackson is worse than Epstein. I think with Michael Jackson, he was almost too big to fail. The musician's daughter, Paris Jackson, also condemned the film.
Starting point is 01:50:13 There's a lot of it. accuracy and there's a lot of just full-blown lies. There's at least one protest planned outside a Canadian theater, with organizers calling the movie a slap in the face to all child sexual abuse survivors. Terea Isri Global News, Montreal. So everybody's in luck because I happen to be somewhat of an authority on Michael Jackson, having met him more than once, having been in the music business during, at least part of his amazing career. In fact, at one point, I was called upon as an expert in all things Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Oh, here we go. When he died and MSNBC called me. Yeah, this was your first and last visit to MSNBC. I mean, there seems to be an insatiable appetite for this. Yes, absolutely. And I'm amazed as you know, as you're showing the footage, and everyone seems to be showing the footage of these rehearsals just two days before. that, you know, here's a guy who clearly was in great physical shape. He had 30, 40 concerts coming up in the O2 Arena in London. That's a huge production. You have to be preparing yourself a year in advance, at least physically.
Starting point is 01:51:29 You can't put on a show like that without an enormous insurance coverage, which includes a tremendous amount of physical testing. So I'm amazed at what happened, that I know that there's breaking news about some form of medical. and additional drugs that were found in his home. I'm quite frankly, I'm amazed that no one is looking at a murder angle on this. And they hung up on me. And they hung up on me.
Starting point is 01:51:55 And they've never called again. But of course, the doctor was convicted of killing. Well, at least you're consistent. The doctor was convicted of killing him. Yeah. And his lawyer who was married to Catherine Bach. Yeah, you nailed it. And these guys, you know, they just, you weren't playing the game.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I was not playing the game. So Kamala Harris, as a side note, was the prosecutor on that trial that might tell you something. He was acquitted. So when you're acquitted, then it's done. But it's very sad to see this theme keep coming up that he was a child molester. And having met him, I can tell you this guy was asexual. There was no sex going on with this guy. I think the one time was with the Brooke Shields.
Starting point is 01:52:45 I think he actually found her attractive. But when I went to, I'll just tell the story briefly. So MTV was filled with deals. MTV was all deals, deals, deals. And they wanted Michael Jackson to perform at the VMAs, the Video Music Awards. And he said, okay, but under two conditions. And one of them was that he would be giving the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award
Starting point is 01:53:11 of the year and that the award would be named after him, which they changed the minute J. Low won it. But, okay, so they're not good people that they changed that award. But that was all political, of course, because, you know, for some reason, Michael Jackson fiddled with kids, which I just do not believe. And so I had to go to Los Angeles. You can see the video on YouTube, me and Tom Fresen. Michael Jackson, in that video, is taller than I am. That's because he was standing on an apple crate because he, I guess he didn't know how tall I was. He requested me specifically and not quite sure why. But when I walked into MJJ Studios, there must have been 30 kids and they were brown and black and I think that they were, you know, underprivileged kids and they had this
Starting point is 01:54:02 beautiful playground and there were nannies and nurses around them taking care of them. and Howie Mandel was there doing Bobby's World Voices. Michael Jackson truly loved children. And that was nothing sexual about it. That's just a lie. And for whatever reason or money, probably, people just keep bringing this up over and over again. So whereas I'm not defending President Trump,
Starting point is 01:54:30 I will defend Michael Jackson. Having met him more than once, this guy was asexual. And I'm interested in the movie. People say it's no good, but I'm interested in seeing it. I would go watch. I'm glad it's out. I'm good. Nice report.
Starting point is 01:54:46 If only for the reason that I recently asked a room full of 20-year-olds, and they said, well, so tell us about what you did at MTV. They never seen a video on MTV. I said, well, you know, it's like Diana Ross and Mick Jagger and David Bowie and Michael Jackson. They had no idea. They had no idea who Michael Jackson was. Of course, why would they? Yeah, well, so now they do.
Starting point is 01:55:09 There you go. That's my report. Yeah, well, you've done this before, and I think it's valid. Thank you. Sounds right to me. Yeah. So I have a couple of, just, I don't know how many more much time we have left. Yeah, we got some time for something for you.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I got Brooks and K part. This was provided to me. This is literally the definition of fake and gay, Brooks and K part. This was provided. me by uh... Steve the clip collector Steve the clip collector and because I had stopped doing the Brooks and Capehart
Starting point is 01:55:45 gig for a while I was giving it a rest and I didn't realize I've given it a rest for so long it's like four months because I think mostly because you were bitching and moaning about the about because you hate Brooks and you hate Capehart pretty much with good reason so uh I found this interesting this is a couple of things they're discussing
Starting point is 01:56:05 the DOJ dropping the case against Powell, which they've done. In fact, we could play a pre-clip here on Powell. Oh, you got a pre-clip? There may be a pre-clip. Where's a pre-clip? It would be under Powell? Powell.
Starting point is 01:56:24 No, I don't see it. I don't think you have a pre-clip. I'm pretty sure I do. No, whatever. Okay, it's beside the point. We can just go right to these. So here we have the discussion of dropping the case. Oh, PBS News.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's your pre-clip. Okay. The Justice Department is dropping its criminal probe into federal reserve chair, Jerome Powell, over whether he lied to Congress about renovations at the Fed's headquarters. Instead, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Piro, said the Fed's inspector general would be looking into cost overruns at the site. The announcement opens a pathway for Kevin Warsh to be confirmed as,
Starting point is 01:57:07 Powell's successor. Earlier this week, Republican Senator Tom Tillis threatened to block his nomination unless the DOJ dropped its investigation. At the White House today, press secretary Caroline Levitt urged Tillis to move forward. Senator Tillis should do the right thing and move to confirm Kevin Warsh as speedily as possible. He is a phenomenal candidate to lead the Fed, and we shouldn't be holding our nation's economy hostage because of a disagreement with the Department of Justice. The DOJ investigation of Powell unfolded against the backdrop of President Trump's repeated criticism of the Fed chair for not lowering interest rates faster. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:45 All right. So here we go with a little analysis. And something caught me off guard. Can I ask you a question first? Yeah. So as Fed Federal Reserve Chairman, which is the head of a bunch of banks with a government sounding name. Well, you're not the head of the banks. You're just the head of this committee, basically.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Committee from a bunch of banks and people. Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying it's not a federal any. It's not a government thing. It's independent. It's just a name. It's a club of banks.
Starting point is 01:58:17 It's like a 24-hour cleaner. One-hour photo. One-hour photo. Yeah. It's the name of the place. Is it up to the actual Federal Reserve Chairman himself to lower in or to change interest rates or is that the entire federal open market committee system? It is, is the, is the chair of that, because it's very confusing to me, the president appoints the chair, that he gets confirmed by
Starting point is 01:58:45 Senate, there's nothing to do with the government, but can that individual, that one person, can he say, I'm changing the interest rates? I think he can. Wow. I mean, he does it in consultation. He just doesn't do it, but I think he can. But it's that guy. But it's that guy. So that guy can wake up and say, let's make it 2%. Let's make it 10. Yeah, I'm pretty, yeah, I think so. Okay, all right. Now, back to you.
Starting point is 01:59:12 I could be wrong, but I think so. Back to your clip. So now there's something noteworthy in here. See if you can spot it. This is DOJ drops Powell probe. The U.S. Justice Department dropped its probe into federal reserve chair, Jerome Powell. After admitting it lacked evidence. And voters in Virginia approved Democrats redistricting efforts
Starting point is 01:59:32 For all of that and more, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is the Atlantic's David Brooks and Jonathan Kpart of MS now. It's always great to see you both. So the DOJ dropped its probe, as we said, into Fed Chair Jerome Powell, in part to clear a path for the confirmation of Kevin Warsh as his successor. But also because the federal judge effectively crippled U.S. Attorney Janine Piro's investigation, David, what do you see as the takeaways? Who would have thought? Lack of evidence. Harts her prosecution. You know, I think, first of all, Donald Trump, like every president, frankly, would love to have a Fed chair do what he wants because he can juice the economy at the right time for the election.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Trump is obviously the only one who would actually act on that. And it should be said, we should appreciate the fact the Federal Reserve system is one of the crown jewels of our country. It was passed, obviously, in the progressive era. But you look at Greenspan, what Bernanke did was miraculous. I think Powell has been an excellent Fed chair. The fact that we have these independent agencies who are doing their job with civil servants doing their job is just something we should be proud of. And the fact that it's under threat and still under threat should still alarm us, even if we've had a reprieve on this. The second point is that Tom Tillis, the senator who is retiring, who is holding up the Warsh nomination, it would be interesting to see if other senators who are not retiring start doing that kind of thing, standing up to Trump.
Starting point is 02:00:54 now there's approvals in the 30s and not in the 40s. And I anticipate that a few more senators will discover some courage when it comes time to standing up to the administration that they have lacked for the last eight years. Well, the thing that kind of gets me is it sounds like Brooks believes that this is a part of the government. Crown Jewels. Civil servants. No, bankers. What means civil servants? Okay, what was... But the thing they caught my attention, which you missed.
Starting point is 02:01:27 No evidence. No, it's David Brooks from the Atlantic. Oh, the so-called conservative Republican from the Atlantic. What happened to his New York Times gig? Oh, that's an interesting question. Good observation. When this began, New York Times, he was a New York Times column this for 22. years. And the other guy, Capehart, was a Washington Post guy. Now he's MS now, which is zip,
Starting point is 02:01:58 which, you know, pays nothing. So, so I, I heard that and I went, what? And so I had to dig back and Brooks quit the New York Times in, or was ousted, I can't tell. And he wrote one of the, he may have, it's hard to say one or the other, because it doesn't really say it's, but he wrote one of the going away columns on January 30th. That's how long ago it's been since he's been out of the New York Times, January 30th. And I read this column, which was like a, was war in peace. This is a column that ran over 2,800 words for an essay where he's moaning and groaning about the state of affairs in the country.
Starting point is 02:02:44 People should go back and read this thing. It's terror, poorly, I'm not going to be. condemn other writers, but poorly written and it just rambles. It's like one of these, the type of essay you write when you're not given a length, you know, make it 1,200 words, make it 800 words. No, no, I'm going to write until I drop. Forever. So he writes over 2,800 words.
Starting point is 02:03:07 It's a ramble. Run that thing through Chad GPT, have it condensed. Come on. Everyone does it. So, and so he says at the end, I'm going to big, I'm taking the leap, but I'm going to bigger and better things. And he ends up at the Atlantic? The Loren Jobs' left-wing rag?
Starting point is 02:03:26 Soon to be sued out of existence. Possibly? Mm-hmm. So I just thought that was odd. I missed that one. Yeah. And anyway, so I just taken aback. So here's a part two of this.
Starting point is 02:03:42 What do you think about that, Jonathan? Is President Trump's... Sorry. K part jumps in. Do you think about that, Jonathan? Is President Trump's approval rating starts to soften. Do you think more Republicans will use leverage wherever they can find it? One can only
Starting point is 02:03:54 hope. Senator Tillis, he won this particular war because he made it clear for weeks. He's not voting for anybody's confirmation until that lawsuit went away. And, you know, look, give the president a little bit of props here in that he just, okay, fine, fine. The prosecution is over. I'm going to get my guy in.
Starting point is 02:04:18 and maybe he will do what I want him to do and interest rates, but we'll have to take Mr. Warsh at his word that he says that he's not going to be a puppet of the president. We'll see. And Powell's term ends next month. Does this episode change the dynamics around his departure or the search, the appointment, the confirmation, the expected confirmation of his successor? Well, if you're Powell, you're worried that they're going to come after you again. And I think that's one of the reasons he's reluctant to leave because he won't have some certain protections.
Starting point is 02:04:53 But I think he kept on doing his job no matter what. And this is a very tricky economy with inflation's rising. And it was not expected that he would be able to drive down inflation without a recession. And he did it. That's amazing. And I thought what Kevin Warsh is a pick, the best possible pick that Trump could have had. I've seen him speak at conferences for years. And he's a serious guy who a normal Republican might have picked.
Starting point is 02:05:17 which is not always the case with the Trump administration, substantive guy. So I think all things considered that part of the government is in reasonably good shape. And they have a gigantic new building. A big wasted money building. Again, with that part of the government. Yeah, good point. Isn't he an economist?
Starting point is 02:05:40 Is Brooks character? No, no, that's the other guy. I mean, no, who am I thinking of? Yeah, you're thinking of the guy. who won the no bill whatever, yeah,
Starting point is 02:05:51 that guy, that's a different guy. Yeah, I can't think of his name off head. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 02:05:57 I think Warsh seems to be saying that he's going to come in and he's going to lower interest rates. Well, we'll find out, won't we? What would happen if he just said,
Starting point is 02:06:06 boom, two points off. Would that drive everybody nuts? No one's doing that. I'm sorry. If they took half a point off, it'd be a big deal. Why is that a big deal?
Starting point is 02:06:16 What happens when you take half a point off. It frees up a lot of money. It lowers. Yeah, money. It drops inflation. It should because things get cheaper. It's cheaper to take out loans. But the main point is to lower the interest rate so that the president can refinance the country. Well, that's your thesis. Trump's a refi guy. He knows what to do. Well, he definitely is a refi guy.
Starting point is 02:06:39 Yeah. So, you got Bessent in there. Well, we'll see. We'll see. We're at 39 trillion. That's quite a lot. you know this is speaking of finances this is a value for value podcast a lot of people uh may not realize that then you know just listening and then now these guys switch to some other segment and then i would drop off after that but this is actually where it gets kind of fun because this is where this is the feedback portion this is it goes two ways um where people uh send value back to us for the value they received from the podcast and that is why I'd like to say in the morning to you,
Starting point is 02:07:19 the man who put the sea in SPLC. The one and only, Mr. John, oops, C. DeMorre. Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Carlsson, in the morning of all the ships and sea boost and graffiti, the air, subs of the water, and dames tonight's out there. In the morning, to the trolls, in the troll count. Okay, 2011, 2011, listening live at no agenda stream.com.
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Starting point is 02:08:58 Before I continue, how are you feeling? You're sounding pretty good today. Oh, I didn't get a lot of sleep. Oh. But I feel okay. Yeah. How's the monitoring going? How's that the telemetry that you're hooked up to now?
Starting point is 02:09:15 I don't know. I won't find out anything. until after the two weeks is up and they, and they analyze it. Okay. But your chest is okay. It's no pain. You're still good? Yeah, yeah. In fact, I'm getting out now.
Starting point is 02:09:29 You're getting out. Oh, you're out around walking the neighborhood? I went to the Mercado the other day to do some shopping in the Mexican market. Oh, nice. No. And do you have a guide with you? Do you have a...
Starting point is 02:09:40 Well, Brennan's around in case I keel over. Do you have a cane? You can, you know, poke kids. No, I don't have a cane. Get out of my way. Hey, girls. Look at this. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:09:52 There's an accident. Oh, man. That's part of our value for value process and system. You can support us with your time, your talent, and your treasure. We appreciate all of it. We've received so many wonderful ways of help that people put back into the show, boots on the ground. Everybody's an expert in something.
Starting point is 02:10:15 So you definitely have to tell us. if we're wrong about something or there's just something you know about because it happens to be up your alley, so to speak. Also, our end of show mixers always love that they do that. There's more and more AI slot, but today's actually quite good. They're starting to figure out how to use it properly. And then there's the artwork, which is uploaded through another one of these great resources given to us by Sir Paul Couture, no agendaart generator.com. and for episode 1862, we titled it Smearer campaign.
Starting point is 02:10:51 There was not a lot that we had to look at, but we chose comic strip bloggers, FBI, vodka. We just thought it was simple. It was on point. There were a lot of different. Are you rummaging in a peanut bag or what are you doing? Macadamia nuts. You will have to talk within the next couple of minutes, just so you know.
Starting point is 02:11:13 No, I'm not eating anything. Are you hungry? Are you allowed to? to eat macadamia nuts? You can't eat too many because I think it's a phosphorus issue. Yeah. I don't know. I got, you know, one of the things I got was a dietitian I've ran into finally that
Starting point is 02:11:30 knows what she's doing. Oh, so she lets you eat something else? No, no. It's like they look at the blood tests. They tell you can eat this. You got to do this. You got to do that. But it's all based on, it's all new.
Starting point is 02:11:41 It's based on research. It's a lot of new stuff. It's like more like Kennedy's stuff. as opposed to the recent out of school. I mean, the one at the hospital would come around. And it sounded like she's from the 1950s, you know, with the regular old-fashioned pyramid, too many carbs. The old pyramid, not even the new pyramid?
Starting point is 02:12:01 No, it's just, it was just like, I can't hear this. And then you get somebody who knows what they're talking about. I've had dietitians before. And it's like, yeah, this doesn't sound right. It sounds like, you know, I'm old enough to remember what it would. You're supposed to do in the 1940. Not, well, 40s, I wasn't born, but the 50s and 60s. And it's not, now this is not the new stuff.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Okay. Anyway, that's my little rant. Yeah, all right. And how about the goop? How's your mouth? Because I know that was the biggest problem. What, you have the salves and goops? No, I still, no, I still, my mouth will still dry out.
Starting point is 02:12:37 It hasn't done that today. Mm-hmm. But it's hard to predict why and when. And the fluids? Fluids. Are they still draining you? No, I haven't been drained for a while. But do you have fluid?
Starting point is 02:12:53 Are you sloshing when you walk? I don't feel the slosh. When do they go and check? Come on, we want to update. This is an issue that's been brought up. What has been brought up? It has not been resolved, I don't think. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:13:08 All right. Taking a look at the artwork that we saw. Let's see, there was you. with, I guess you was a very bad depiction of you with draining some crude slop into a barrel. That was no good. Jen Psocky who looked horrible. We wouldn't use that.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Didn't even look like her. No, it didn't really. Cedar Feas. A lot of, you know, just stuff that wasn't, wasn't, I kind of like the puppet show by Darren O'Neill. I think we both kind of like that. You know, the sock puppet? Oh yeah, that was reasonable.
Starting point is 02:13:47 That was okay. But, you know, then we just, you know, we just felt like the FBI box. It was clean. It was easy. It made sense. It fit with the theme of the show and the news of the day. And I will say for today's show, I don't know if you notice, but Mike Riley, an actual artist is back. Yeah, he comes every so often and drops a couple of bombs.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Yeah, he posts a number of bombs today. But as a lot of other stuff has been put in here. There's a lot of stuff coming in today for some reason. Hey, it's, you know what? Even if it's AI, it all comes down to the funny. You know, we're looking for a laugh. That's all we really want from you. So do your best.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Then we have the treasure portion of value for value, which means you support us financially. This is the only way the show retrieves any money. All of the work that we are doing is a full-time job. We do it non-stop. We wind up with about 80. five to 100 clips a show. We don't play them all, but we have it all just in case the conversation flows that way.
Starting point is 02:14:51 And we are here to serve you as a public service. And as a producer, because all of you are producers, not listeners, not just casual listeners, you are producers. We appreciate how all of you help us, including those who bring the third T of the time, talent, and treasure. We thank everybody, $50 and above. And when someone is fortunate enough to be able to support us with $200 or more, Not only will we guarantee that we'll read your note,
Starting point is 02:15:16 we also give you a Hollywood credit, which is associate executive producer. You can use that anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDB.com. It looks great on your resume, LinkedIn, anywhere. I mean, Lindleupac can I think stands by it? And $300 or more,
Starting point is 02:15:31 and we will give you the title of executive producer, along with reading your note. And we kick it off today. We do have the special red nights of the order of the heart, which includes not only your knight or dame ring, but also a handsome lapel pin designed by Sir Paul Couture. And we start with the Commodore Archduke of Central Florida from Winter Park, Florida. He comes in with a show number donation, which has not happened in quite a while,
Starting point is 02:15:58 $1,863. And he says, show number donation from Commodore Archduke of Central Florida. John, glad you are back and wishing for a speedy recovery. that is beautiful. And he says NJNK. That's right. Good man. Mike Healer comes in from Las Wages, Nevada,
Starting point is 02:16:20 with $1,000. And I, we didn't get a note. And I sent him an email because he does communicate with us. And to see if he had a last minute note, he probably didn't pick up the email yet because it was this morning. So we're just going to give him a double up camera.
Starting point is 02:16:37 He came over the $1,000. Okay, double up karma for you, sir. You've got karma. And if you send your note, we'll make good on it. MFDX of Anjou, coming in with $420.69. I'm sure that is a belated $420 donation. We appreciate that. And he says, apologies, gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:17:02 I haven't been late for a $420 donation since. Well, I can't recall. proof that the current cannabis strains are something, something and effective. Go habs, he says, and he requests a... What does that mean? I have no idea. Habs may be the... I don't know.
Starting point is 02:17:20 I don't know what go habs means. He requests a Fauci whiz, a Fauci wheeze, then beautiful yum, and then don't eat me Hillary Clinton. So I guess it's... He wants one of those. Half a second pause. Beautiful. There you go. We have succeeded.
Starting point is 02:17:48 Wow. Charles in Duncom, Iowa, 420, there's another 420 donation. This was not solicited. It never goes anywhere when we do solicit it, but the diehards still come in, and I thank them for it. Some green for some green,
Starting point is 02:18:04 Jingles Dog Karma, J.C.D. Donate and two to the head. Donate, don't eat. Harmline. John O'Neill from College Station, Texas, Aggie Town, 333. Please deduced. You've been deduced.
Starting point is 02:18:41 And he adds, prayers for JCD's perfect healing and recovery. May our Lord Jesus surround you with his peace and healing. Shout out to Jared. my friend, please give me an F cancer as I lost my wife to brain cancer last August. Baz from Singapore, 333.33. Glad to have John back on the show, amazing how quickly it was back on the pod. Oh no, the pod. It's a violation.
Starting point is 02:19:17 Back on the pod. Violation. Hope the recovery continues to go smoothly. Shout out to Adam for keeping the show going when John was out. You guys are the best. BAS in Singapore. Dennis Cato, Tampa, Florida, 33333,
Starting point is 02:19:32 ITM, gentlemen, this donation is a huge thank you to everyone who ordered from our site ManukaGold.com after Adam's shoutout on Thursday show. We couldn't believe the massive number of orders and wonderful feedback from the no agenda listeners
Starting point is 02:19:47 and we're very grateful for all the support. How about that, John? Massive. We are a family-owned small business with a mission to help our customers with their health and wellness through natural Manuka Honey products without overcharging. We take pride in what we do and getting a boost like this makes it feel like all the hard work has been worth it. Well, that is some true value for value. And thank you, Adam, for giving our Manuka Gold Relief gel a try on your back. We glad it'd help.
Starting point is 02:20:15 If it didn't, I would have said nothing or I would have said, but it did. And I can't wait. Well, I hope I don't have to try it again. But if I have a pain, I would. we'll try it again. Sincerely, Dennis Cato, Tampa, Florida. Thank you. Manukulgold.com. Jordan Goodfellow in Davenport, Florida, 333. Low donations doesn't mean low value. Here's some coin from the profits of writing the Avis car rental short, the short squeeze back down to earth. Thanks for always being the only vaccine that works on the oversized amygdala and keeps us saying, No jingles, no karma. Nice.
Starting point is 02:20:58 Is Avis car, is that now a meme stock? Is that... No, no, no. I don't think so, but whatever the case, you made some money playing it. Good to go. Sir Nate the Rogue is in Central Point, Oregon, and he's our first associate executive producer with $225. And he says, don't euthanize JCD. We got to keep him around. I don't see why I would. Or I don't think I alluded to it. Sir Nate the Rogue, not. of the Rogue Valley. Thank you. And here's the Indy Indianapolis No Agenda Meetup, Greenwood, Indiana,
Starting point is 02:21:32 2222. Switcheroo donation for Sir PBR Street Gang. ITM, John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang here. Dame Trinity and I were the lucky winners of the Indy in a meetup, a raffle. We want to encourage everyone to attend
Starting point is 02:21:53 at least one meetup. We have attended meetups in North Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, and Illinois, and have to say that the IndyNA meetup is the best. Yeah, it's probably one of the best, that's for sure. Mark and Maria are the perfect hosts and are really great people. The IndyNA group is the best group we have met in Gitmo Nation. We continue to pray for John's healing and return to his faith. Keep fighting the good fight. Sorry for the letter to your... house, Adam. It was John's fault. Like, how did these people get my... Oh, yes, I remember how they got my address. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Thanks, John. Good work. Jingles... What, the, uh, true people search? Yes. Jingles, prayers, booggy. Yeah, Brunetti gave me grief for that, too. Jingles, prayers, boogety-buggy and little girl, yay. Yay! You've got prayers.
Starting point is 02:22:58 Hey, coming in with 204.26, which is how he rolls every single time with a $200 and date donation. It's Eli the Coffee Guy from Brentonville, Illinois. Another crazy gunning for Trump or staged assassination attempt. Either way, we all get tickets to the media circus. I'm just sad. We won't get clips from the Correspond this dinner. Well, hopefully we'll get some within the next 30 days. Hey, heads up to fellow producers. We expect to run out of our Ethiopian Gucci organic soon.
Starting point is 02:23:34 So get it while the getting is good. Is there a run on Ethiopian Gucci organic that I'm unaware of? What's one of their better blends that they've made? Visit gigawak coffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. And as always, stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. Which leads us to Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Thanks for finding my ad copy. it's a good thing, or we would have had to have a meeting.
Starting point is 02:24:02 Yeah. As far as putting your no agenda producer status on your resume, which was the question we asked. Yes, we did. It's great if it's relevant to what you do. For instance, if you're a podcasting media in podcasting media or entertainment, otherwise, just included on your LinkedIn where there's plenty of real estate for extracurricular activities. The logo looks cool and you can connect with fellow no agenda producers. Now this, knowing what to include on a resume is the difference between one that gets results and one that doesn't.
Starting point is 02:24:36 For a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers Inc.com. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, Carma, please. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got, karma. Thank you very much, Linda.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Moving on, we have Dame Shell and Sir Maggot from Millington, Tennessee, 15797. Much-Muttrears for you both. John, even though you've blocked me ages ago, I'm sending light and love to you. I've never blocked her. And I got the note on my regular email that she sent. Well, you know, sometimes when you don't answer, people feel you've blocked them. Which is odd. But that's, people don't understand how much email we get.
Starting point is 02:25:24 They really don't. And I miss good stuff. I'm sure I miss good stuff. Oh, yeah. We all do. It's very difficult. Brody, Virginia Beach, Virginia, $150. There's Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, 133.33. ITM to you.
Starting point is 02:25:41 Christine Cortazole in Pensacola, Florida, 123. ITM, boys. Greg P. Wadby in Peterborough, Ontario. Let me see. Let me see, I've been listening a long time. Here's $100. Thank you very much. Sir Bird Dog, Eric Nouse hit him in the mouth back in the COVID days.
Starting point is 02:26:04 You guys have really helped my wife and I look at everything that's presented by both MSM and independent media with entirely new eyes. Oh, good. Rebecca Haw in Franklin, Tennessee. That's where all the musician celebs lives, live 9377. And she says that we're worth more than most things she spends her money on. She loves no agenda and both of us. 89 and my dad's 89th birthday today inspired a donation. Oh.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Oh, she's a voice actor in a growing AI world. Oh, boy. That's tough. There's Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina with the boob donation, 80.0.08, and he is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs, and he says, God bless America and boobs. John El Barini comes in with $70.26. Bill McFarland, Manassas, Virginia, double nickels on the dime, 55.1.1.
Starting point is 02:26:54 He says, God bless. Douglas Johnson, Lithia, Florida, 55. Thank you, John Adam, for the many years of entertainment. Ronald Castinger. Ronald Castinger, Roland Castinger, I'm sorry, in Bethesda, Maryland, 5483. Surprise, Night of Astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma, 54, 44, Christopher Wexelberger in Leipzig in Germany. Yes, this is another warm invitation to everybody for the Leipzig meetup on April 30th.
Starting point is 02:27:23 Man, he's doing a good job. of promoting. I hope a lot of people show up. Christian Gruelich in Winterhaven, Florida, 5272, and he was very happy to see the hypocrite of the week return to the weekly newsletter. William Wilde, 52, 72, David Oliver, 52 72, Nathan Gwynne, Jackson, Tennessee, 52 72, Sir Tyler, Anchorage, Alaska, 5149. Matthew Dropco in Elira, Ohio, $50.88. And he says, continued prayers of strength for John recovery. And here's your 50s. George Wushit in Lavernia, Texas. Brad McDonald, Mason, Ohio, John Ford, McKinney, Texas. Catherine von Taul in Rotterdam, the Netherlands,
Starting point is 02:28:06 Richard Gardner, Aaron Weisberger in Bend, Oregon. And that is... And Sir Yogi. Yes. I was about to say that, but you, you, like, jumped in as if I'd run a stop sign. You stopped and you didn't run the sign. And Sir Yogi in West Richland, Washington. I just think it's funny that Jay put the black line in the wrong spot. She will be beaten within an inch of our life, I tell you. This will never happen again.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Thank you all so much for supporting us with your treasure. Part of the Value for Value System here at the No Agenda Show. You can support us anytime you want, any amount for any reason. Numerology always works very well. If you just decide that you got some value, go to Noagenda Donations.com and support us. us, yes? And give Rebecca a haw, a
Starting point is 02:28:59 karma. She's moving to Italy. Oh, okay. You've got karma. They have internet money there. She can continue to support us. If you'd like to set up a recurring donation, these are very much appreciated. We don't mention
Starting point is 02:29:14 under $50 for reasons of anonymity. People like to send $49.99 for that very reason, sometimes multiple times. But you could set something up for every show or every week or every quarter or whatever whatever works for you any amount any frequency no agenda donations.com support the show no agenda donations.com well we're going to make it really short and sweet today because we only have one on the list which doesn't happen very often Rebecca hall who just got her karma she wishes her dad a very happy
Starting point is 02:29:48 birthday he is turning 89 years old and he still reads the paper without his glasses Happy birthday to you from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Now, before we throw out the title changes, we actually have two notes to read regarding these. We have Sir Hib of Hogtown, is how he started out, but after his life-altering brain aneurysm experience, which I think you can get in Vegas, he would now like to be survivor of aneurysm, and he says he can hear you grousing about it. it. I don't think so. Why would you grouse? I don't know. I couldn't figure that it was baffling
Starting point is 02:30:29 to me too. He said, I beat the odds. Maybe because it's not a title upgrade. He says, I beat the odds big time. Thanks to God and some great doctors. And this is one way to commemorate it. Okay? And then we have a title change from Steve Cashman. He says,
Starting point is 02:30:44 I've been on the 33, 33 plan for a while. And with intermittent producer donations, I realize my PayPal account which seems to put me into double baron territory, $1,33.30 cents. I also donated various meetups. So he's got a whole thing here.
Starting point is 02:30:59 He says, so with your consent, and with Sir Scott of the Armory's blessing, I would like to be dubbed Sir Steve with a V. Baron of South Austin. I believe that's okay. And he just said, oh, he says, I lost my original night ring. What?
Starting point is 02:31:16 This is scandalous. Can I pay something to get a replacement? I'm sure Jay can work that out with you. And he asks if you have a Dilbert-esque story about office behavior, you always seem to start them with, hey, Bill, is Bill real, he says? Is Bill real? There's a lot of bills.
Starting point is 02:31:35 So is that a yes or a no? Not offhand. Okay. Title changes. It's the slaves. Nice changes. Don't want to be too strong. And here's your official title change.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Music, and we congratulate Sir Cashman, who now becomes Sir Steve with a V, Baron of South Austin, and Sir Hib of Hogtown, who henceforth will be known as Survivor of an Anurism, and we're very glad that he did. Behold the arpice bright in braille. Red knights to welcome today, who will receive that very handsome-looking pin designed for you by Sir Paul Couture, and that goes to Commodore, Archduke of Central Florida, and Mike Keelard, gentlemen, welcome to the Order of the Hearts. Behold the order. Pure of purpose, right from the stars in the morning, brave and smart.
Starting point is 02:32:51 I love that jingle. Hey, time for some meetups. No one's chenda. Who has put together one of those fabulous meetup reports for the Indianapolis Indy meetup. Hi, this is Dame Maria. And Sir Mark. and we're celebrating the best dame wife birthday ever. Gary here, just giving a shout out to Mike the Polymath.
Starting point is 02:33:17 Happy birthday, and hopefully you're here at the next one. Hi, this is Sirup over the paper, and I just found out that Gary is not Canadian. In the morning, Nodder from Indianapolis and to go off at Trevor and Gary, I'm just glad I'm not Canadian. In the morning, John and Adams, for PBR Street Gang to verify
Starting point is 02:33:32 that we've got the best names of nights here at no agenda here in Indy. Hail to the victorious dead. In the morning, Dame Trinity here in Indianapolis, having a great time, and I want to wish Dame Maria a very happy birthday. Happy birthday! Thank you! This is Viscount of Hamilton and the
Starting point is 02:33:48 Two Penny is here with my wife, Dame Melissa, Dame Melissa says hello also. In the morning, from Dame Melissa and Dame Swanning. This is Emily, your shufflecrack's boot here to remind you that we are still in the middle of a shutdown. Anyway, I'm listening to
Starting point is 02:34:06 We're just enjoying good company. Adios, locos. the morning. This is Shannon. I misread the invite. I thought it was a book club. As far as book club, this is foam finger number one. Hi, this is Cody von Gino. I was the server for the new agenda group and I had a great time. They're wonderful people. Day Maria, happy birthday. Hey, happy birthday, Maria. I didn't realize that. I would have put you on the birthday list. I'm sorry about that. And nice to put your server in there. We love it when they put the servers in there. And, you know, someone just listening to that meetup report, John, you know, it truly is fortunate.
Starting point is 02:34:40 it. There's one thing that's so happy that you do not live in Canada. Oh, yeah. You would have been a candidate for the maid. They would have been like trying to get you killed so fast. Oh, yeah. Don't you think? Hey, you want to die, dude. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Hey, we got to meet up taking place today on our show day. M1, Local 1, Spring, fling. It's underway at Brewer Becker in Brighton, Michigan. On Wednesday, we have the new North Toronto No agenda meetup. I guess that's a new one. They'll kick off at 7 o'clock at All-Star Wings and Rubs in Vaughn.
Starting point is 02:35:18 That is in Ontario. We got a lot of people in Canada. We got to keep a hold of those people because Canada is trying to kill you. On our next show day, Thursday, the North Georgia quarterly meetup, 6 o'clock at Cherry Seat Brewing in Alfreda, Georgia. Also on Thursday, the see if anyone shows up meetup. This is our buddy in a second. in Leipzig in Germany. Okay, I really want people to show up for this meetup. It'd be at 7 o'clock at Goldhoffin. Goldhoffin, I say, in Leipzig. Come on, Germans, show up for this guy. Coming up in the month of May, we have meetups in Spathinaw, Oklahoma. Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the second. Buda, Texas, on the 8th. Leiden on the 8th. Eagle, Idaho, on the 9th Santa Rosa, California, the 9th, Natural Tennessee on the 9th. on the 14th, Raleigh, North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana,
Starting point is 02:36:13 in the 15th, Los Banos, California on the 16th, Hickson, Tennessee, on the 23rd, and also on the 23rd, Franklin, Tennessee, two Tennessee meetups at the same time, Squim Washington on the 25th, and it goes through all the way into June, July, I think, see things in October. These are the no agenda meetups. This is where you go to hang out with people who will be very different from you, but you all have something in common,
Starting point is 02:36:37 and you will get along. You might even meet your future, mate. These are connections that give you protection. These people will be your first responder in any emergency. They make you stable so you're able. Noagenda meetups.com. Go find one near you. If you can't at noagenda meetups.com. You can enter all the information and start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Noagenda meetups.com. And we're coming up on John's tip of the day. Everybody loves a good tip of the day.
Starting point is 02:37:24 The McMaster tip was outrageous. People really love that. One of our producers, one of our dames out there, she's been working for McMasters, I think, for eight years. Yeah, it's funny. And Martel Hardware set me a note about how they get stuff from them too. Wait, so they're just a pass-through now? Is that what they are?
Starting point is 02:37:45 Well, I guess they do wholesaling or something. I'm not sure. Oh, excellent. Before we do that, though, we always choose the ISO for the end of the show at this moment in the podcast. I have two. You have two. Looks like you're back on a track. Do you want to start?
Starting point is 02:37:59 Do you want me to go? Go. Okay, here we go. Comedic gold. I'm not a fan of that one. I think this is pretty good. We rated A plus plus plus. A plus plus.
Starting point is 02:38:13 Okay, I have two of the variation on a theme. These are both the same with a variation. you mean you change the temperature on the AI voice? No, I just changed the wording. Okay. Dadgummit, that show was riveting. Wow, he said it in such a riveting manner, too. It was amazing.
Starting point is 02:38:33 Let's try the second one. Dadgummit, that show was riveting. Donate people. Yeah, there you go. We'll have to use that one, because we need to remind you to donate. After you hear the tip of the day. Great advice for you and me.
Starting point is 02:38:47 tip with JCD and sometimes Adam. So this this tip stems from the fact I'm staying at
Starting point is 02:38:59 my daughter's place with Brennan, her husband, and they don't have a grill. Oh, what? Yeah. It's un-American. It's un-American.
Starting point is 02:39:10 It's an American. It's un-American. Even Mimi wouldn't, couldn't believe it. So I'm recommending a grill This could be used for a barbecue, but it's a grill that can be used for barbecue. It is, I discovered this product probably in the 80s when I was in Georgia, because I think the company is in the south someplace.
Starting point is 02:39:34 And it's a company called Char Griller. Not to be confused with Char Broil. Char Griller is a company that makes grills, and they make one particular one, they're real classic one, which is I'm recommending as a tip of the day. And it's available at Lowe's supposedly exclusively, although you can order it from Char Griller directly from their website.
Starting point is 02:40:01 You can look up Char Griller. And Char Griller, the Pro Deluxe Charco Grill with an 850 square inch burner. The thing that, or not burner, but cooking surface. The thing that's noteworthy about this being the perfect size, you can use it as a smoker by pushing the coals to one side and smoking on the other side of the thing. But the kicker is the fact that they have cast iron, a cast iron great for cooking.
Starting point is 02:40:31 You cook on cast iron, not the cheesy little, crappy little things that work. Wire, the wire stuff. The wire. Wow. And so the cast end, they run around 200 bucks. That's not expensive. No, it's not expensive at all.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Best price. Now there's a couple of things you should note. Well, can I ask you a question? Don't you have to season that? Don't you have to season the cast iron before you use it? You know, I... Oh, you don't believe in that, do you? I'm mixed feelings.
Starting point is 02:41:03 A couple of things to note. Lowe's has it as an exclusive. Exclusive. But, suppose it exclusive. And so the competition is Home Depot. So if you want a home, Home Depot has the exact same product called the 21, I think it's a 2130.
Starting point is 02:41:26 It's pretty much the exact same product called the Blazer. And it's slightly cheaper. But it's the same thing. And the only difference seems to be cosmetic. And instead of having wood shelves or shelves on the outside, you can put stuff on, the shelves is,
Starting point is 02:41:43 of being wood, they're metal and slightly different looking. But from what I can tell, still got the cast iron grate, and it still should cook pretty much the same way. Now, I've been using these. I've gone through three of these personally. Do you mean that they don't last or you're just that? Well, I don't put a tarp on them and I let them rot. You let them rot.
Starting point is 02:42:04 They last about five years if you let them rot. And you get a new one. Yeah, that's no big deal. You can paint them. you know, to keep them kind of in good shape. But, and, you know, they get kind of beat up after a while anyway. But this grill, the char griller grill, is fabulous. And the one at Home Depot, which is the blazer,
Starting point is 02:42:31 which I would take a look at, is currently on sale for 149, which is a steel for a grill like this. This is a tip within the tip. Yeah, tip within the tip. It's a double tip. Wow. Well, that is, that is a, that is a good deal. Can you have it shipped?
Starting point is 02:42:47 Do you have to pick it up? You can actually have it shipped. And in fact, you can, if you order from the factory, currently, if you go to the website for Chargbrile, you will, they'll ask you, would you like to get on a newsletter this? We'll give you free shipping. So you sign it for the newsletter, you should be able to get the thing shipped free.
Starting point is 02:43:03 And they're pretty heavy. I think the first one I bought it had shipped out. And is there some assembly required? Yes, yes. Well, you obviously, yeah. That is the piece I always hate. Now, you can, if you get them from, if you get them from, I know too much. If you get them from Lowe's, you can click a box and they'll assemble it for you.
Starting point is 02:43:24 You do know a lot. When's the last time you used one? You used anything outside. Well, I have not since the operation. I bet you can't wait to get back to your... Cooking over fire like a man. There you go, everybody. John's tip of the day.
Starting point is 02:43:38 You can find him at noagenda fun.com and tipofthe-day. for you and me just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam created by Dana Birdetti And again we come to the end of our broadcast But you want to stick around If you're listening on your modern podcast app
Starting point is 02:44:00 Or no agenda stream.com Unrelenting is coming up next And this is an episode with a live kebab extraction It's Sir Gene and Darren O'Neill You never know what you get with those Boys, you never know. Also, I think some really good end of show mixes. We have, let me see, we get Robert Sikos, how do I pronounce his name?
Starting point is 02:44:27 Robert Skullnicki, Skullnicki, there we go, Robert Skullnicki. We have the dude name, Ben, named Chris. We have Just Baker, and that's it, I think, for this particular episode. So those the end of show mixes, we, of course, will be back on Thursday, and we look forward to helping you understand what's going on in the world once again as we break down and deconstruct all media. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, a very balmy and misty Frederickburg, Texas.
Starting point is 02:45:01 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Refinery Row in Northern California, I'm John C. DeVorek. Please join us here again, same time, same place. for your No Agenda Show. Until then, remember us at Noagenda Donations.com. Adios, mophos, hooey-hooie, and such. Adam Curry, Podfather, John C. Dvorak, Buzzkill. Two podcasters. Just getting by. They have the technology.
Starting point is 02:45:34 They use your donations to make the best podcast in the universe. AI is ruining the art. I already ruined the end of the show meets this. It's ruining everything. It's ruining our lives. You died that's the slop is going to kill it. Oh, it's slop, but I love it. The latest ring calls us all ludic.
Starting point is 02:46:12 Neo-Ludite. Says the humans had the run. Now it's bits and bites. Crossed his arms and smirked. This track is Slop. Hold my beer at him. Watch the needle drop. AI Slop is here to stay.
Starting point is 02:46:33 They want more slop. Give me Slop. I love it. Something Eddie couldn't play. AI Slop. I love it. called a swap. It's called AI swap. This is a Luddite thing.
Starting point is 02:46:58 The mutant party track, classic rock bones, Hammond organ through a neural net. Frequencies that nobody's owned. Sounds the old world hasn't heard yet. A.I. Slop is here to stay. Bow down to your own. This show will never end. Walked into the clinic for a routine check.
Starting point is 02:47:43 They made a data through a little white pad. A decal tracker for the good and the bad. I pulled out my phone and they started to laugh. What is this relic? Said the medical staff They gave me an android Said mine was too old While I'm strapped with gear
Starting point is 02:48:02 And doing what I'm told Oh, the China She's in charge of the entire floor She doesn't look at charts She doesn't Every stair while I'm stuck here I'm reading I'm calling her out
Starting point is 02:48:24 While she starts to huff I told her straight With Brandon right there You're a lousy doctor And you just don't care No concern for the patient No interest at all Just a long series of things
Starting point is 02:48:36 making me feel small. She pushed back a little from behind the lace, but you can't see the truth on a masked up face. I shoot her away. I sent her to the hall. Now I'm waiting for the nurse to take after. The last missile falls and the smoke finally clears. But Democrats crossing fingers hoping I ran drag straight past the 4th of July beers.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Creeping impeachment bananas, a supreme, a guillotine dream. Tight shipping lanes, show, fertilizer, crude, and helium, declares. Say this crisis got a hidden design California circus Dispo selection Democrats Stacked in deep in the clown car pile Rang choice chaos Giving Republicans a flukewin shot
Starting point is 02:50:19 For old Judas got his 30 silverware account Mofo Dvorac.org slash ed That show was riveting Donate people

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