No Agenda - 1867 - "Transmission Window"

Episode Date: May 10, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1867 - "Transmission Window" Transmission Window Executive Producers: Sir Kevin Dills Arch Duke of the Carolinas Matthew Payne Randy and Crystal Sir HorseMeds Susan A Taubenkibel Dou...glas Schneider David McInnis Dennis Cadle Arnis Celmins Terence Lynch Todd Usnik Associate Executive Producers: Amy Lynn Sir Robert Eli The Coffee Guy Stefan Trockels Linda Lu Knight and Dames: Matthew Payne > Sir Mattnik Terence Lynch > Sir Terror of the Respawns Doug Schneider's Mother (Roxanne) > Dame Roxanne of the Right Diagonal Title Change Sir Kevin Dills (Duke of North Carolina) > Arch Duke of the Carolinas (requested Bob Dylan title-change song) Art By: Blue Acorn End of Show Mixes: Bonald Crabtree Danny Loos Jus Baker Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman ShowNotes Archive 1867.noagendanotes.com No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There are people who swim across the channel. Lunatics. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorey DeVore. It's Sunday, May 10, 2026. It's your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination Episode 1876. This is no agenda. Celebrating moms everywhere. And broadcasting live from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, here at the airport.
Starting point is 00:00:22 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Yeah, from Refinery Row here in Northern California. we miss our moms and wish them all a happy mother's damn john c de war i'm yeah that's right i keep forgetting we don't have moms well we have moms no we don't have living moms ah this is the difference we have moms we have moms no longer with us yes and as we know most people who listen to the show hate their mom or as it changed or so it seems except during o kovina yeah Has it changed somewhat, perhaps?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Oh, I can't visit my mom. Oh, no. Second show from the, you know, I looked out the window this morning in that sign that caught fire in the hotel. Yeah. Literally outside our room. And they took it down. I took a picture.
Starting point is 00:01:21 It's all scorched. The wall is all scorched. That is weird. A thing caught fire. Huh. Yeah. Because it's short. There's a couple other strange things I just have to talk about.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Boots on the ground, you know, on Thursday, we had just arrived and I'd only seen the inside of the airport. Now I've been around. I've been walking. I went to see Christina. We did the gender reveal. We did the gender reveal. Big gender reveal party. This is where you scoff.
Starting point is 00:01:52 This is where you scoff. They are kind of dumb. It was fun, though. It was nice. So, first of all, in the Netherlands, this may be an EU-wide thing. they have done something to plastic bottles. And this is very odd to me. When you open the top of the plastic bottle, it stays attached to the bottle.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You can't actually... Oh, it's got a little thing on it. Yeah, it's got a little thing on it. And I'm thinking, okay, I'm sure this is for climate change or to save the earth. But have you, have you ever had a bottle of water? Yeah, I've had a bottle of water. And have you just, when you're done with your bottle of water, do you just throw the cap away or do you put the cap on
Starting point is 00:02:37 and throw the bottle away? What I tend to do Oh, here we go. I take the bottle, which is usually plastic. Yes. And I squeeze it to it so it's like shrunk into a smallest possible piece. Then I put the cap on
Starting point is 00:02:53 it so it can't return to its original size. Then it takes up less space than the garbage can. So you are actually doing a good thing for the earth with the cap. Yep. But you don't need the cap attached to remember, does anyone throw the bottle cap away outside of the bottles? Does anyone do this?
Starting point is 00:03:11 I think it's been done. Oh, it doesn't seem like a number one thing. And it's kind of annoying because you want to drink out of the bottle and that thing is touching on your lip. Yeah, you're slapping you in the nose. Exactly. Europe. I have a, before you go on with your little, which is important, your conversation about,
Starting point is 00:03:29 I have to play this in Amsterdam clip, which is a girl on, on Insta, talking about the screwball stuff that she's run into, and she's grilling her fake friend about it. Here we go. Hey, excuse me, Amsterdam. A quick question. Yeah, what is it? So I thought Amsterdam was one of those places where anything goes,
Starting point is 00:03:52 but I'm hearing something of a ban that recently went into effect. Well, even we have our limits. But smoking in coffee shops are still legal, yes? Yeah. As are magic mushrooms. Yeah. And public nudity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 So what could have crossed the line that you have to ban it now? That would be public advertising of fossil fuel products including meat. So no more ads for gas-powered cars, airlines, or chicken nuggets? Correct. Well, I have a lot of questions, but besides that, is there anything else you've been cracking down on recently? Yeah, young British men. What? You're banning British men? No, no, not a ban, but we don't.
Starting point is 00:04:35 do have an advertising campaign telling them to stay away. So let me get this straight. In a city known for permissiveness, you're drawing the line at British dudes and ads for cheeseburgers. Yeah, naturally, because one ruins the climate and the other ruins our city. Yeah. Well, the ban on young British men, that's been going for a while. And I think it's kind of slowed down because of cheap airfare is over now that they have barely any. fuel.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, it's true. Because, you know, they were getting on the easy jet for 50 bucks and flying over and getting, you just fall down drunk and peeing in the mailbox. Yeah, peeing in the mailboxes and stuff like that. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, the mailboxes are connected to the door. You know, it's not like a separate mailbox. So you're peeing into someone's house through the mailbox.
Starting point is 00:05:31 So, yeah, you know, the British, the British boys were a bit of a problem. but listen to this. So we go to the gender reveal. And my first wife is there who I haven't seen in 10 years. So, you know, it was kind of an interesting, interesting vibe all around. You know, Tina had never met her. So, you know, you can imagine that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:56 That was great. Actually, it was great. It was actually really nice. But what do you think? The first question she asked me, and we sat down for a couple of minutes. What do you think the first question was that she asked me? Well, I would say this if I was her. Think carefully.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Think carefully now. I would say, hi, Adam. How's the show going? Yeah, no. You get another guess. No, you get another guess. Uh, hi, Adam. How's your hemorrhoids?
Starting point is 00:06:29 You finally got him cleared up? Okay. No? No. Great, John. No. No? No. She says, I'm sure everyone has asked you this.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You want to guess now? Oh, everyone has asked you this. How do you like Texas? First she said, hey, is that old dude still alive? No, that's not what she asked. She said, what do you think of President Trump? Oh, duh. I should have got guessed that.
Starting point is 00:06:58 What am I thinking? The first question out of the gate. and it is the first question from everybody. I didn't expect it from her because, yes, there were a lot of questions she could have had as the first one at the top of her mind. But even, you know, Taxi Eric, you know Taxi Eric, the guy that tried to kill you once.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Oh, yeah, they almost got me killed. He says that whenever he gets Americans in the car, they picks him up from the airport, they all go, oh, Trump, oh, we hate Trump, we hate Trump. Everyone hates Trump. And I'm like, that's odd. There's so only Democrats are traveling to Holland now? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I think it's because people are afraid. Oh, I get it. Yeah, I've pulled that stunt. You know, because they know that all of Europe hates Trump. Now, that is also not true because Taxi Eric doesn't hate Trump. And so anyway, so then my answer to my first wife was, well, you know, I don't. like a lot of things he's doing. For instance, our borders are closed and he's kicking out the undesirables.
Starting point is 00:08:10 When you say this, and it works in every case, not just in ex-wives, when you say this, they go, yeah, wow, I wish we had a guy here to do something like that. That's exactly what they say. And there's other things that he's done that I think are pretty good. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's, I hadn't thought about that. but every single person the same thing first you say oh yeah no I like Trump I think he's doing some good stuff and their face goes and then you just have to say our borders are closed and we're kicking out the
Starting point is 00:08:43 undesirables I like the use of the term undesirable that's a good one well isn't that the truth the undesirable yeah it's just a term nobody uses anymore it's good perfect very apt it's good it's good and then And I guess the only other thing that I noticed here is the ratio of commercials to programming is worse than the United States. It is 21 commercials to every 12 minutes of programming, no matter what time a day. 21. 21 commercials of what length? Varying between 15 and 60?
Starting point is 00:09:31 So what they do here a lot is they'll have a 60 and then they'll have another commercial and they'll come back with a 15 second, which is like a little bonus for the one previous. So they'll do a thing for some chocolate and then there's like washing powder and they'll say, hey, don't forget that chocolate. It's really good to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we do that in the States anymore, do we? It's been done, but it hasn't, it's not popular. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So I do have a clip here about the extreme ban on burgers and petrol and cruises from someone who is very disappointed. I thought it was just meat. I didn't know I'm understanding. No, it's all climate stuff. It's, it's. Anything that has to do with fossil fuel. Yes, cruise lines, airlines, airlines. petrol cars, all of that is for boaten.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Now, the Dutch, Amsterdam, putting in place a ban that is so extreme, it is attracted worldwide attention. Before I get to that, though, certainly in recent years, the Netherlands has seen some pretty extreme policies. I mean, in the name of the so-called green agenda, and to comply with EU rules, the Dutch government, for some reason, wanted to close down thousands of farms across the country to cut down...
Starting point is 00:10:58 nitrogen pollution and even went this far that if farmers refused to sell up that the dutch authorities would push ahead with compulsory purchases of farms to shut them down and what you've now seen is this in amsterdam that there is now a ban in place for certain public adverts so amsterdam now from the first of may so this is coming to effect now Adverts for burgers, petrol cars, air travel and cruises, banned from appearing on billboards, tram shelters or metro stations because of the outlook on environmental targets from the Amsterdam authorities who for some reason want to reduce local meat consumption. And yeah, believe it or not, this is now the policy being implemented in Amsterdam And things could get even more extreme in terms of Amsterdam because it seems now the city actually looking at banning cruise ships completely. They're going to look to NC cruises by 2035.
Starting point is 00:12:16 They've already decided to reduce the number of cruise ships allowed to dock in Amsterdam. That nearly halved. And they're now looking at banning cruise ships, something that of course. will cost them a huge amounts of money in terms of court and tourist taxes. And what is not reported is they've reduced the number of slots available at the airport. So to fly direct to Amsterdam is expensive. I mean, it's already expensive because of oil price and jet fuel availability. But there's even more.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I mean, you look at the ticket, it's 75% it's. taxes and fees and carbon and and extra airport fees just because they don't have enough slots for airplane. This is a huge hub at international airport. The Dutch are crazy. And everyone's complaining about the prime minister, Twinkletoes, who suckered all the young people in by being openly gay. Like, oh, yes, LGBTQ, it's going to be great. And this kid, all he does is stuff for rich people. So this is a country in decline, sad to see. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Kill the cruise lines and then take an international hub of major importance and screw it? Yeah. That's exactly what they do. Why? To save the world. For climate change? Are they nuts? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And check this. So Taxi Eric. It isn't a full-blown law yet, but they're going to disallow all diesel cars and trucks from the city center. And soon it will be, I think that may already be in effect. And most of these cabs, you know, these Mercedes cabs all used to drive on diesel. Of course, because it's much cheaper here. And so now they're going to ban petrol cars.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So he got a hybrid. And he can drive about 100 kilometers on battery alone. which is enough to drive into the city center and out, you know, a couple times a day. But they have so many electric vehicles and such a lack of energy available and grid capacity that he can't even get a three-phase charger at home. He has to plug this thing into the wall and it takes four hours to charge, something that could charge in 25 minutes. And there are new homes being built.
Starting point is 00:14:57 that we'll never get electricity. We can't extend the grid to these new homes, where they already have hundreds of thousands of homes in shortage because they've given it to all the asylum seekers. This is crazy. Why people are not revolting here? I don't understand. It was a long-term strategy.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I understand it now. That's why you legalize marijuana and magic mushrooms. Woo! It's all good, brother. Yeah, there you go. You nailed it. You nailed it. I don't know what they're going to do in...
Starting point is 00:15:35 Shillick. I don't think what they're going to do in Hungary. Here's the latest update. Now they got the new guy in. It's a new era for Hungary. Peter Modior is set to take his oath as prime minister inside Budapest's neogothic parliament. He has called on Hungarians to mark the day with a huge party,
Starting point is 00:15:53 celebrating the end of the Orban era. We must immediately begin putting our country back in order, bringing home EU funds, restarting the economy, and improving public services, as well as healing the wounds caused over recent decades, reunifying the Hungarian nation, and of course, ensuring justice so that those who committed the crimes of the previous system are held accountable. Was it that bad? Did we just miss all the reporting?
Starting point is 00:16:22 I thought everyone loved Orbán. They did The corruption I think got too much Or ramped up I have a report from the BBC It's similar Okay, hold on a second Let me see
Starting point is 00:16:37 Is it under Hungary? Yeah Why yes it is Okay A town in Japan is removed It's long time mayor Because it's unconscious The town assembly of Hachiro Gata
Starting point is 00:16:48 And the northeastern Akita Prefecture Wait a minute Why does it say hungry new guy why am i hearing stuff about japan that's what i like to know do you think it's still coming or do you have a japan clip
Starting point is 00:17:03 i never heard this clip this is under your clip this is hungry new guy won BBC interesting that a place you have no confidence motion against the mayor who's been on medical leaves and suffering a brain haemorrhage in february
Starting point is 00:17:19 it means he'll automatically lose its position in ten days The problem in Hungary is they're now speaking Japanese. We've got a real situation on our hands. Oh, here we go. It's a bad edit. It was a moment of pomp and ceremony in Budapest today. A fanfare sounded his new members of Parliament came into the plenary chamber
Starting point is 00:17:40 to watch Peter Maja, who won a landslide victory in last month's general election, being sworn in as Prime Minister. I'm a Hungarian Peter. Fogadom. Fogadom. in his own lawturbionie he'lless. In his inaugural speech, Mr. Maja said one of his government's first steps would be to create an independent office to investigate corruption over the past 20 years.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's the period covering the government of his predecessor, Victor Orban. Afterwards, Mr. Maja gave another speech to his supporters outside the parliament, saying his premiership would mark a new beginning for his country. Take it with you. Take this day with you as a memory and remember this day for your whole life. Maybe one day
Starting point is 00:18:37 you will show it to your children, to your grandchildren that this is how it was. This is how it was in 2006, the first day of the free and democratic Hungary. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:54 All right. Okay. Well, new guys. You know, the funny thing is, you know, the people, I think they did like Gorbonne to a point, but I guess the scandals were too much. But the other thing is, wasn't this a horrible, going to be a dictator for life and it was never going to be removed? Yeah, that was typical. It's the same thing with Trump. You know, guys going to stay in office.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Of course, I like the fact that Trump jokes about it. It's funny. he had some joke the other day about it. He says, well, maybe in about a decade when I'm not in office anymore. We played it on the show. It was about his... Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, play it again. No, don't play it again. No, I'm not going to play it again. What I'm going to play is I got some brand new hot off the press stuff from this morning, from the Sunday morning shows. Thank you to Steve, the clip collector. We got to talk about Hanta virus.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I mean, everyone's talking about the Hanta. Hanta is what is that? You know, it's funny before you play that, there's been a couple of pieces going around saying, claiming. Yes. The whole thing is a fake. Oh, I haven't seen that.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The whole thing is a fake. Yeah, the whole thing is bogus. The people that have died didn't die of Hanta. Oh. And this is a complete creation to try to get people worked up. I can assure you the dead Dutch people are really dead. Well, they might be dead, but are they dead from Hanta? Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:20:16 One of them, somebody apparently died of old age. It happens to the best of us. Now, what I love about this is we're just rewinding the movie. We're inserting a new word. We're bringing back the same puppets. Who do you want to talk to right away when there's something deadly going on? Peter Hotez. No, that's when we're, that's, we don't have a vaccine yet.
Starting point is 00:20:42 We're not there yet. What do you mean? You know they get 15 in the works, right? Yeah. We got to go back to the Genesis. who was the first guy. You need the first guy. Come on.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Well, it's not Fauci. No, it's Osterholm. Ulsterholm. Oh, that guy. I'm joined now by one of the top infectious disease specialists in the country, Dr. Michael Osterholm. The one who scared our wits, scared us out of our wits when we started with the COVID. Wasn't he the guy you ran into it at Rogan? Yeah, when Rogan was still in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, exactly. and he was like, oh yeah, oh, it's really bad. Oh, millions are going to die. Of the University of Minnesota, it's good to see you this morning. Thank you. Most Americans, of course, had never even heard of the haunt of virus, so you can understand the kind of fear. But we're...
Starting point is 00:21:32 What's his name? What's his name's wife died of it was the actor? Gene Hackman's wife died of haunt the virus. It was all over the news. We've heard of it. Well, it's interesting you bring that up. Is she kidding? It's interesting you bring that up.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Because yes, that was one of the things that I was curious about myself. I think we actually have a clip still. Where is it? Hmm, I'll find it. You're told again and again, this is not COVID-19. Don't worry. You're among those people saying that. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And first of all, happy Mother's Day to you. Thank you. Bye, blah, blah. In fact, the good news is that in a sense it is hauntavirus and not another coronavirus or influenza virus, this is one that has a very limited ability to be transmitted person to person. In fact, it's a rare exception. And so we had no question about the fact that this really is on the end of its run right now.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And they're very possibly maybe not, no additional cases from here on out. And I know originally you catch it from rat feces or urine. How many cases? Why doesn't it just say rat poop feces? And people don't understand that word anymore, Martha. Is cases are there generally? Good point. Yeah, just say rat poop. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I think you're right. I don't think people know what the word feces means. I think it's too technical for Americans these days. Just call it rat poop. And you hear her thinking about it. Like, shall I say rat poop? Should I say rat turd? Shall I say feces. So you catch it from rat feces. You see how she? Yeah, you're right. That one beat. Tert, poop. You catch it from rat feces or urine. How many cases are?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Are there generally in a year? In the United States, there are about 30 cases a year on average, and they mostly occur west of the Mississippi, about 96% are west of Mississippi. It has to do with the kind of mouse that lives west of the... Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now, we switch all of a sudden from rat to mouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I don't like that. I don't like that. And now he says it's west of the Mississippi because of a certain kind of mouse. Yeah. What happened to rat? The rats are out. A deer mouse. And they're the ones that really contain the virus.
Starting point is 00:23:49 In terms of what happens around the rest of the world is different with different strains of Hanta virus. And the one that really raised our concerns with this boat-related transmission is the one from South America. Ah, you hear what he's saying here? Would really raise our concerns with this boat-related transmission. So he's a little, he's being sneaky about this. Yeah, we know about the Andean stream. Yes, that's a different. and that is hemorrhagic.
Starting point is 00:24:17 The Andean strain is like Ebola, Zika, without the small heads. Not Zika. Zika's not hemorrhagic. Oh. It's the other one. Marfan. Marrbara. Marlborough, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Marlborough, yeah. Marlborough, yeah. We got it. We nailed it, people. Nailed it. Concerns with this boat-related transmission is the one from South America, which is called the Andeus strain. And that one actually on occasion,
Starting point is 00:24:44 has resulted in person to person transmission. Uh-huh. You see, he's caging it. He's being careful, but yeah, he's slippery this one. Sneaking it in. Yeah, he's sneaking it in. And supposedly you aren't passing that or transmitting that unless you're symptomatic. Right. Right now, you can manage the individuals who have been exposed very simply by asking. Oh, how can we manage? What do you think we can manage them with? Come on. Come on. What can we manage? What is the way to manage every virus?
Starting point is 00:25:12 By the way, I want to stop the clip. What did you say was the number of cases every year? 30. As of the end of 2023, 690 cases of Hanta virus have been reported in the United States. Oh, okay, since surveillance began in 93. Okay, it's possible. All right. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Are you experiencing any kind of a fever and then take the temperature? Do you have any symptoms? If somebody is identified right at that point. Are you bleeding from your eyes? You can put basically an N95 mask on. Oh, okay. Back to the N95 mask. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:51 We know this doesn't stop anything of the kind. And stop all transmission. All transmission stops with the N95. So this is why we don't need this high-tech, you know, containment facilities, et cetera, to monitor these people. We can monitor them very simply. And should they stay home? I know these 17 Americans are coming back.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Shelter in place. Going to Nebraska, they will be checked. Self-isolate. And then. they're sent home, and this is just a trust thing? Just check your fever. Are you happy with that? Well, you know, it's not actually just a trust thing.
Starting point is 00:26:21 In a sense, people really do respond to participating in this for their own health, as well as the health of those around them. We've had a lot of experience with this. And the past Ebola was a good example. When we had all-ro-atturning health care workers coming back from Africa back in 2015 to 2017, we monitored them twice a day for their temperature and for any symptoms, and that worked very, very well. So I have complete confidence that we will have good compliance here.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And I think within days, this will no longer be a story. Okay. All right. Within days, it will no longer be a story. Why would you even say that? This is how he gets on TV. I would say, check back in a few days. We'll see if it's no longer a story.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Okay, he's certain. One more clip with him. Even the people who were let off the ship earlier at the end of April and are now some of them back in the United States. No worries there. No worries there in the sense that they're going to be monitored. as they weren't before. Oh, no worries because we can monitor them. But again, none of them have had any symptoms onsets,
Starting point is 00:27:21 have had no suggestion of infection. The same is true with all the individuals are disembarking right now today. There's no evidence any of those individuals were sick. And if you look at what happened, the first person that came on the ship brought it with them, and you can basically explain all the cases that have occurred to date around exposure
Starting point is 00:27:40 just to that one individual, not to multiple people transmitting the virus. Thanks so much for joining us this morning. Put us at ease. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, at ease. You're right, John. We go back to March of 2025. It wasn't all that long ago.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Here was the report we played on the show. Tonight, New Mexico authorities with tragic revelations to a week-long mystery, saying Gene Hackman died of heart disease and complications from Alzheimer's, likely a week after his wife Betsy died of the rare, deadly disease, hauntavirus. The cause of death for Mr. Jean Hackman, aged 95 years. is hypertensive an atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease with Alzheimer's disease as a significant contributory factor. The cause of death for Ms. Betsy Hackman, aged 65 years,
Starting point is 00:28:29 is hantavirus pulmonary syndrome. Pulmonary syndrome. Now, I think that's the, isn't that the Andy's version? That's what I, no, uh, I'm not sure at this. Oh, I'm not sure either. Here's the thing that I've been... One is pulmonary and the other one is internal organs or something. So here's the thing that I haven't seen any reporting on.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Surprise. In the Pfizer document, the one that was foyer, the one that was supposed to be locked up for 70 years. 95. 95 years. Hanta virus pulmonary infection is on the, the adverse event special interest list. What?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yes, for the Pfizer vaccine, the RNA vaccine. Are they so careless when they manufactured that they got a hant the virus in the vaccine, you think? Well, first of all, it's on page 33, which just tickles me. Okay, that's good news. So I'm feeling better already. But so there's two ways of looking at. I don't think hanta virus was included in it.
Starting point is 00:29:48 The way I read it, and it's a very technical document, so we'll have to have other people read it and tell us what we're seeing here. The way I read it is that if you have had hanta virus, which could be a mild case, you got a fever, you know, some rat poop slipped into your yogurt, you know, whatever. You didn't die. You didn't die. It happens.
Starting point is 00:30:09 especially if you're west of the Mississippi, you know, eaten at Texas, by the way, one of the states. Waffle house. Waffle house. That it can then bring back the exact same symptoms that you had from hanta virus. So the hanta virus is kind of dormant inside of you, perhaps. Wow, it sounds like herpes. Yes, like bad Mexican food.
Starting point is 00:30:36 It comes back all of a sudden. Yes. Which doesn't make any sense, but okay. Well, this is, this is, but go ahead. Kara, this is what I'm reading. So that would kind of make sense if you think about Gene Hackman's wife, think she was vaxed. Do you think these people were vaxed?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding? Of course she was. So this is what could possibly create something that looks like a pandemic, which would be, in fact, a pandemic of death. So I'm not so cavalier about all this. Oh, I see what you're saying. What you're saying is that because there could be numerous, maybe thousands of cases of dormant antivirus infections out there because of the nature of it based on this paper.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yep. Page 33. Hello. It's possible that they could all be triggered by the COVID shot. Yes, exactly. And then you can use that as leverage for another fake pandemic. Check it out. This warning sits, you nailed it.
Starting point is 00:31:53 This warning sits alongside about 20 herpes family virus reactivation symptoms. Also, Zika, Gulliam Barre, and there's 1,300 other adverse. event of special interest categories that Pfizer was cataloging as known events from day one. In the document they wanted to hide for almost 100 years. And so, so. This is the gift that keeps on giving. Imagine my surprise when who shows up on CBS this morning. Come on, you know who that is now.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Potes. No. Who's the Pfizer douche? Oh, yeah, the guy who's on the board. For more now, we turn to former. FDA commissioner, Dr. Scott Gottlieb. He also serves on the board's advisor and United Healthcare. Welcome back, doctor.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Thank you. He already sounds bad, doesn't he? Welcome back, Donnell. It's almost like he's rolling his eyes like, I got to do this again. Or maybe he's like, I hope they don't ask about that document. Please don't ask about the document. Whatever you do, don't ask about the document. Welcome back, doctor.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Thank you. So there have been three deaths linked. to the outbreak. Here in the U.S., there are six states monitoring potential exposure, all either linked to the ship itself or flights of people who have been on the ship. And then those 17 Americans. Do you agree with the CDC and the World Health Organization that the risk to public health is low? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do agree with that.
Starting point is 00:33:34 We have to concede that there's still things we don't know about this virus. We haven't had to grapple with many outbreaks in the past. There's been two large outbreaks in Argentina. that experience, what we know is that typically for transmission you have to have close contact. We also know that people typically aren't contagious unless they have showing signs of the infection itself
Starting point is 00:33:52 in what we call the pro-dromo phase. Pro-dromo? We have never heard of the pro-dromo phase. No, I've never heard this. This is new. Where they start to have an onset of symptoms, and the progression from that onset of symptoms to severe disease, and in these cases, death, is typically just days. This is a very aggressive
Starting point is 00:34:10 virus. So based on what we know, the transmission risk is low. Now that said, when you look back at the past experience, there are these outlier cases where there appears to have been transmission among people who weren't perceived to be in close contact. And so there are these cases that we need to look at closely from the past experience. And just be wary that perhaps there's things we don't know fully about this virus. I will say that we are nearing the end of the transmission window for the patient. Transmission window. What is he? Is he broadcasting now to the satellite? What is a transmission window?
Starting point is 00:34:42 window is almost closed that we need to look at closely. She would show title. Yeah, I think so. In the past experience, and just be wary that perhaps there's things we don't know fully about this virus. I will say that we are nearing the end of the transmission window for the people who are being repatriated here in the U.S. And so it looks to me like the last death on that cruise ship was May 2nd. That patient had an onset of symptoms on April 28th. If you believe that the incubation period is about... If you believe, how about some science, do you?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Dr. Gottlieb? What is this believe crap? The cruise ship was May 2nd. That patient had an onset of symptoms on April 28th. If you believe that the incubation period is about two to six weeks, they'll be at the peak of that incubation cycle some point this week. So I think we're about two weeks away from knowing whether or not there'll be additional cases that come from that initial outbreak on the cruise ship. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:35:36 That contradicts what Osterholm said. He said, nah, it's over. This is done. This is toast. Now Gottlieb is given us two weeks transmission window space. I don't like this at all. And of course, the one thing that will not help, do not listen to the internet. Whatever you do, whatever you do, do not, I mean, telling you, do not take horse dewormer.
Starting point is 00:36:01 So a key moment here. I mean, the WHO said it's very clear this is not COVID all over again. But as you know, it has ignited some of the. very same skeptics who during the pandemic really questioned our government institutions and the response. The WHO has said there is no research that ivermectin is an effective treatment for the virus. There's no research. It doesn't say that it's not effective. There's no research. Well, of course not. We've never had an outbreak of antivirus. I'm wondering what you make of these calls for alternative treatments and resistance of government health advice.
Starting point is 00:36:46 There's no treatment. What alternative treatment is? This might be a primary treatment. These people make me mad. According to the, I'm sorry, but according to the Ivermectin freaks, Ivermect, the hantavirus is another RNA virus, which are very easily, thwarted by ivermectin. Ivermectin, man, it'll heal your broken elbow.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I mean, Ivermectin is all you need when you travel is Ivorymptin and Gaffer Tape, and you're good to go. Look, I think we're going to be relitigating the consequences of COVID for a long time. And I think a lot of people who are in public health positions right now believe that their tenure and their appointment to these positions is a referendum on COVID in some respects. And so that echoes through their public comments.
Starting point is 00:37:36 This is not COVID. It's not going to spread like a. pandemic virus like COVID did like a coronavirus did it spreads far less efficiently there aren't any treatments successful treatments for this virus ivermectin certainly isn't an effective treatment just by virtue of its mechanism it doesn't work against this virus it prevents viral replication in the nucleus not the cytoplasm of this virus replicates it's just not going to work what is it what what wait a minute it makes it sound like it did work against other things what did he just say he said how nucleus of macalacar.
Starting point is 00:38:08 It works. It does work then in some situation. In the nucleus of the microplasm, makalaka makanae. It doesn't work against this virus. It prevents viral replication in the nucleus, not the cytoplasm with this virus replicates. It's just not going to work. So I would encourage people not to use that. I know that there's
Starting point is 00:38:25 been some things on social media suggesting that people should stockpile ibermectin. We don't have an effective treatment for hunter virus. And that's what makes this very menacing. Now, wait, you said that there's 15 hunter virus vaccines already in the making? Is that?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, yeah. Is that true? Or you just said that off the country? No, that's absolutely true. That many. So the Army's got one. The Navy's got. There's all these different ones.
Starting point is 00:38:50 There's a big list of them floating around. People were mocking the list. Now, if I were the global, the global liberal world order, and I'm hating everything. Trump is doing. He's wrecking our party. He's screwing it up with what he's doing with oil.
Starting point is 00:39:13 He's screwing it up with the banking. He's screwing up. He's, you know, he doesn't want to help Ukraine. He's not playing ball with us. Why wouldn't they just pull the same trick they
Starting point is 00:39:26 did in 2019? You're telling me no one has tabletop this? No one has war-gamed it and said, in fact, two weeks ago there was say one of those things that you always like to bitch about. Yeah, the war game exercise?
Starting point is 00:39:45 There was an exercise, yeah. What was that original one called for COVID? E-40-201? Event 201. Event 201? Yeah. I mean, wouldn't you just, I mean, these are the exact same people. Wouldn't they be like, oh, this is great.
Starting point is 00:40:01 We can get rid of that Trump. I don't think they can pull this one all. You can't do it with Hanta virus. They've already got him in a bad situation. They're trying. You know, it's like, eh, come on, boys, we can do better than this. Listen to the gaggle.
Starting point is 00:40:16 You've been briefed on the virus. Yes, I have. He told us what you've learned in these things. Well, I think you're going to be told everything and you already have. It's very much, we hope, under control. It was the ship. And I think we're going to make a full report about it tomorrow. We have a lot of people, a lot of great people are studying it.
Starting point is 00:40:35 It should be fine. We hope. I hope not. I mean, I hope not. We'll do the best we can, yeah. Yeah, and so a lot of great people, this was not left unturned, this stone by CBS and Gottlieb, about a lot of great people. You served in the first Trump administration as his FDA commissioner in the first term. The person in that job now has been a guest on this program, Dr. Marty McCarrie, he was a vocal critic of COVID response during Trump and Biden. There's a lot of reporting right now that his current position, that he's at risk of losing his job. Given how important the FDA is, they regulate, I saw one-fifth of consumer spending in this country. How damaging would it be
Starting point is 00:41:24 to lose its leader and is there someone who could step in quickly? No one obvious to me and there's been some reporting about different candidates that could work on an interim basis there. Marty's a friend. You know, I think that that's a very difficult job. It, as you said, regulates about 20% of the U.S. economy, products that are very important to people's lives, medical products, food, food safety. And so there's a lot of debate and consternation about decisions that get made at FDA. And so it's been a controversial position for whoever's held that job, including me. You know, I got criticized for decisions that I made in that position as well. I think the continued upheaval at FDA has been detrimental to the agency, not just the speculation about Marty's fate, but also the departures that we've seen from the agency.
Starting point is 00:42:09 The agency's lost thousands of medical reviewers, some voluntary through the doge cuts or some forced through the doge cuts. Involuntary, I mean, some voluntary. There's been a lot of voluntary departures from the agency. If you look at the oncology division, they had a starting strength of about 100 medical reviewers at the beginning of this administration. They're down to about 50. the hematological group that reviews drugs for leukemia and lymphoma had 21 medical reviewers and it's down to sick. Reviewers, these aren't doctors,
Starting point is 00:42:36 these are reviewers who approve stuff. They're pharmacials. They lost an entire breast cancer review team. So there's been a lot of departures from the agency. You've seen political appointees take over what are typically career leadership positions running the medical product centers, the drug center and the biologic center.
Starting point is 00:42:54 So I think cumulatively that's taking a toll on the agency and this continued speculation that we saw on Friday, I think is just going to be another step downward. I'm just saying they're setting it up, they're setting it up in case they need to. If they decide to pull the trigger, all you need is the media. All you need is a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:43:11 who have this adverse event, what was it, adverse event special investigation thing that reactivates this henta virus. I mean, it's clear that there's a lot of things going on with side effects of, I would say, specifically the Pfizer-M-R-N-A. Hate to say it. Not with everybody, for sure. Praise God, two of our daughters are still good, and they've been vaxed to the hilt.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Lots of boosters? Many boosters. Yes. Many, many boosters. It hurts my heart, man. So luckily, luckily they're okay. Now, if you don't mind, just want to stay on the pharma tip for a second because I would have said this for later on in the show,
Starting point is 00:44:00 but Godleap went into this, and I have a couple of clips from a recent Maha Institute, and this is the MK Ultra that we've been talking about of SSRIs. And I don't think people understand how big of a disaster this is, except for Kamala Harris' stepdaughter, who paused from crocheting to think, I've been on these things for over a decade. I wonder if there's something up with that.
Starting point is 00:44:30 So here's Gottlieb. He leads us right down the path. I want to ask you about some of current leadership there. Secretary Kennedy was speaking about the use of antidepressants in this country. Almost 17% of Americans use them. He says they're over-prescribed. And he compared his experience of heroin withdrawal to a family member's experience getting off antidepressants known as SSRI.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Take a listen. I watched a family member get off of them after a couple of years on them. And she was suicidal literally every day. She woke up every morning and said, I don't want to live. And she said, the only reason I'm staying alive is for you guys, for the family. He later said that he was not telling people to stop if they're taking that medication. But what do you make of his description? of antidepressants as risky.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Look, these are prescribed in a primary care setting. Like any drug that's prescribed in that setting, I'm sure there's some marginal prescribing, you know, isolate marginal prescribing. What does that mean? Marginal prescribing. Does that mean overprescribing? Is that a tricky term?
Starting point is 00:45:45 I think what he means by a marginal is that maybe the person doesn't need that drug but they get it prescribed anyway. They're on the margin. Okay. But for most Americans to take these drugs, they're very important. in some cases, life-saving, and I would encourage everyone who is thinking about potentially stopping these medications based on the Secretary's comments to consult their doctor. There is a
Starting point is 00:46:06 period of time that patients need to be weaned off these drugs. They can be successfully weaned off these drugs. It can be, if you're lucky. They want to be, and there's alternatives that could be effective for their mental health, but nobody should just stop these drugs outright without being under the consultation of a medical provider. I worry that the Secretary's comments is going to discourage legitimate use of these drugs in the same way that is comments around Tylenol discurs use of Tylenol in the setting of pregnancy, where it could be very important for certain pregnant women who need pain relief and fever relief in that setting.
Starting point is 00:46:34 We saw a lot of women. Oh, quick, quick, I love that little pivot. Hey, these guys are stupid about Tylenol. Don't talk about the SSRI. And move away from those drugs, use of those drugs, even appropriate use of those drugs. Based on the Secretary's comments about that, I worry about the same thing here.
Starting point is 00:46:50 It's clear that the Secretary wants to put downward pressure on the prescribing. He tried to implement regulatory steps to do that as well. And so it is concerning. So I got a couple of boots on the ground since we've been talking about this topic. First one from Loudance. And she is 35. She lives in Amsterdam. Was put on Lexer Pro in 2021.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Says, I want to support your take on SSRIs by sharing my own experience. 2021, I was 35. A well-meaning doctor here in Amsterdam put me on Lexapro, a strong SSRI. It made me extremely agitated, not to mention aggressive. And I'm normally a pretty relaxed person. While I was taking this, I started spending most of my weekends drinking black coffee watching very violent video games on YouTube, the kind of games where you're ripping monsters in half with a chainsaw. I had no interest in playing these games. I just enjoyed the graphic violence.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Again, normally I'm a pretty relaxed person, but these drugs made me aggressive and hypomanic. Hypomanic. SSRI's boost serotonin and serotonin is a substance that makes you feel safe and dominant. So it's not hard to imagine why this could lead to dangerous behavior. Of course, doctors are not all aware, since these kinds of side effects could easily be attributed to something else. Maybe you're having a difficult time at work. You just need to meditate. And doctors mean well, but they don't have the time.
Starting point is 00:48:09 So maybe they just prescribe you some benzos, which is not the same as SSRIs, to calm you down. At any rate, getting off SSRIs is its own form of torture with mood changes, brain zaps, and lots of other fun stuff that will haunt you until the end of your days. Getting off these drugs was absolutely the right thing for me, and I think listening to the show, first put into my head how dangerous these drugs can be. John, another score. Pharmacology note, Lexapro,
Starting point is 00:48:41 which the medical term is esetalopram, is recognized as having one of the highest affinities and top-tier selectivity for serotonin transport among SSRIs, often considered the most typical or selective due to its minimal binding to other receptors. And so the Maha Institute, which is an RFK Jr. Symposium, had this Dr. Anders Sorensen from, I think he's Norway or Denmark,
Starting point is 00:49:12 and he gave a little spiel, I clip three, four short clips about SSRIs. They're short. One of them is 35 seconds, so they're short, about SSRIs and getting off of them. So in 2018, a study was published in the BMJ, asking one very simple question. Do parachutes reduce the risk of death when jumping from an aircraft? The researchers compared two groups, one jumping with and one without. The result, no significant difference between the groups. Parachutes, it seemed, offer no protective effect, comfort for those jumping without one.
Starting point is 00:49:54 But there was one small detail hidden in the Methods section, which you of course always remember to read. All participants had jumped from an aircraft parked on the ground from an average of half a meter. And as the authors noted, one should be cautious in extrapolating their findings to real world high altitude jumps. We might laugh at this silly study, but it stops being funny when you realize we're doing something very similar in psychiatry today. Fast forward to 2025, a study in the American Journal of Medicine compared how long antidepressants were studied in the randomized trials we rely on compared to how long people actually take them. The median duration of the trials was eight weeks, meaning that most participants and only been on these drugs for two months. And the median duration of real-world use in the U.S. five years. So we're using short-term evidence to guide long-term treatment.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And that gap matters, especially when it comes to dependence and withdrawal. Yeah. So you can already see where this is going, that they have no idea how bad these things are if you want to get off of them. Since 1997, SSRI withdrawal has been described as mostly mild and self-limiting, lasting a week or two, mentioning only a handful of the more than 80 reported symptoms. That's what the guidelines say, because they're based on short-term trials far from reality. So what happens in practice?
Starting point is 00:51:34 People who've been on these drugs for years, decades, are tapered off as if they've been taking them for months, often by aggressively having the dose, halving again and then stopping. And when that goes wrong, which it often doesn't. Because they call it a relapse of an underlying condition. Conclusion, you still need the medication.
Starting point is 00:51:58 So back on the drug, symptoms resolve, and the therapeutic illusion is complete. It looks like the drug is treating an underlying illness, when in fact, it might be just relieving withdrawal. But before we conclude a relapse, which, of course, could be the case, withdrawal has to be ruled out first. All right, so what are some of these symptoms? What's confusing is that withdrawal from psychiatric drug isn't just physical symptoms. It's not just dizziness, nausea, headaches, muscle pain, shaking, burning sensations, fatigue. I mean, it's that too. But it's also anxiety, insomnia, irritability, depressed mood, mood swings, brain fork, difficulty, difficulty concentrating, intrusive thoughts.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Withdrawal can mimic relapse. Or new diagnosis for which there are also drugs. the symptoms overlap. And if you don't recognize withdrawal, you will misinterpret it. SSRIs are definitely not harder to quit than heroin, says producer Tim. That's only a commentary on heroin.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Not on SSRIs. They're incredibly difficult to quit. The long and short of it is you have to go, you go incredibly crazy in sort of a bipolar mood swing kind of way for the duration of your withdrawal, which is about a month. Medical best practice is to very precisely titrate
Starting point is 00:53:18 off the dose over a span of several months. But again, I found out the hard way. A lot of doctors just don't know what they're supposed to do. Final clip, which tells you the story that we already know from these, from previous medications. And we've been here before, historically. We saw it with benzodiazepines, introduced first as safe and effective with minimal concern of dependence until decades later, dependence and severe withdrawal became
Starting point is 00:53:44 undeniable. Then we saw it again with opioids. again aggressively marketed as safe and effective for chronic pain until we had an epidemic. The pattern is the same. A new drug is introduced, framed as safe and effect, it gets widely prescribed. Then people start having trouble coming off it. Then research begins to confirm what patients are experiencing, but that research has pushed aside, ignored, because it challenges the prevailing paradigm. It's textbook paradigm shift from Thomas Coon's 1962 classic.
Starting point is 00:54:18 So prescribing continues, and recognition comes years, often decades later. And then the cycle repeats with new safe and effective drought until we understand this. The body doesn't care what we call the drug or what receptors it acts on. It just adapts, setting the stage for withdrawal independence. There it is. I like the fact that we at least got one person off, or at least to consider it. You know, some couple of years ago,
Starting point is 00:54:51 Francine Hardaway sent a note in. Oh, goodness. Dane Franci. We haven't heard from Dame Francine in eons. Oh, I stay in touch with her. Oh, good. How's she doing? She's writing a lot.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You mean she has a substack. She's got, She writes these personal anecdotes And she's got about a book's worth of material Oh, wow. Does she still listen to the show? I doubt it. So what did she have to say?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Oh, she said these things are the worst. You can't get off them. Yeah. Well, you can, apparently, but it's not easy. It's not easy. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll save one more person, John. You know, there's a presentation floating around on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And I'll try to get it, dig it up, and clip it. Get it to the show notes of all these different drugs from Darvon to Kualo's to one thing after another. I think there's like the top 25 drugs that have been taken off the market. And an underlying theme is, well, they had some data, but they kept it to themselves. It's like a theme. The drug companies say, it's like, now you have to wonder what the deal is with these,
Starting point is 00:56:14 with some of these drugs. Are doctors being, is there evidence that doctors are bribed? I mean, the pediatric doctors are totally bribed to vex up the kids. Well, they also, or they kick out of a practice. Well, no,
Starting point is 00:56:27 this system is clear. The drug goes to the, to all those people on the review team, who Kennedy is fired. and replaced their former farmer people. I'm talking about it. I'm talking about that at the street level. What doctors being paid off to prescribe drugs?
Starting point is 00:56:48 No, but listen, this is what I'm saying. The first part is it goes to the FDA. The FDA has the shills. The shills goes, yep, it looks good to me. I mean, whatever you showed me, I don't want to see anything else. That's good. Then it gets a safe and effective approval. Then the reps go to the doctors and they say,
Starting point is 00:57:06 safe and effective, would you like to buy some? Would you like to serve this to your patients? And here's a set of golf clubs and here's a speed. We all saw the documentary. And here's a party and here's a cruise and, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Because they've been told that safe and effective, their butts are covered by the FDA.
Starting point is 00:57:26 The whole system is crooked. And I think RFK Jr. is doing something here. It does seem like that he's creating some awareness through a podcast. Yay. Because you're not going to see it on CNN. Who live by this stuff? That's the other part of it. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 So the doctors, they have, what is it? What is the term? About culpability. They, I don't know. Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:58:03 There's a term that says, I, liability, indemnification. Are we talking about? No, no. this like where you have a way to show that you couldn't have known because you had you oh yeah right plausible deniability.
Starting point is 00:58:18 plausible deniability thank you there you go boomer moment for both of us yes not for me okay for me then boomer adjacent moment plausible deniability yeah it's sick it's sick I tell you sick sick sick sick sick well it is bad yeah it's very all right let's get to politics Oh, who. Because big news. In the UK? Yeah. Yeah, this was great.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Yeah, the UK, the labor, and the preface to these, I only have three clips, but you don't need that much of it to understand what's going on. The election took place. The council elections. This was live on television.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yeah, it was the little voice. The little local elections, yes. And the labor just ate it. And now everyone's predicting that both labor and the conservatives, they conservatives did not do well. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:59:15 That both these parties may be going to way of the, you know, the way of the dodo and maybe these new parties will be coming up, especially led by Farage's operation. Yeah, the reform party. Yeah, which he started because he basically quit the other one. What was the one he started before? What was it called?
Starting point is 00:59:36 He had another party. Wasn't the Brexit party? Wasn't that the Brexit party? No, no. It was UK. Something it had some jazzy sound to it. It was very similar to the Reform Party, but it was different. And he had to quit it because there were too many nutballs that had joined it. It happens. Yeah, so he just started a new party, which has done quite well.
Starting point is 00:59:58 But let's play, this play what's happening here. There's election shift BBC. The beleaguered British Prime Minister, Kirstama, has again insisted he isn't going anywhere following the disastrous results for his governing Labour Party in English local elections and the devolved parliamentary votes in Scotland and Wales. I think we have to set out the path ahead, and that's what I intend to do in coming days, how we rebuild, how we convince people about hope for the future, and we haven't done enough of that.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So I will be setting that out with clarity about my convictions and my value, what drives me forward on this. Kirstama has now invited two veteran labor politicians to help rebrand his premiership, including the former Prime Minister Gordon Brown. But some MPs within the party are continuing to call for him to set a timetable for his departure after Labour suffered huge losses,
Starting point is 01:00:54 mainly to the right-wing populist reform party. Our UK political correspondent, Rob Watson, says it's a seismic shift in party allegiances. The more I've reflected on it overnight, Alex, the bigger and the more significant it seems because it really does seem as though the old order has crumbled and a newer order is taking shape. And I rate it up there as being as significant,
Starting point is 01:01:17 this ending of the duopoly of Conservatives and Labour with the creation of the welfare state after the Second World War in 1945, with the Suez Crisis in the 1950s where Britain ceased to be an imperial power after its humiliation, Mrs Thatcher coming to power in 1979 and the Brexit vote. I think it is that big.
Starting point is 01:01:36 It's that significant. And while it's true that the Labour Party is flirting with that and will no doubt get rid of Kirstama in the not too distant future, or certainly between now and the next election. It was the UK Independence Party. Right. I looked it up to. UKIP.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah. They became nutty and so he bailed out. After they tried to kill him, remember they tried to kill him? I remember the plane crash. Yeah. The plane crash? Oh, the plane crash. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, they always try to kill these people. Yeah. The facts of driving this are just unlikely to go away, and they're three, and they're not unique to Britain. The first one is the economic squeeze. I mean, a lot of this anger is driven by voters feeling that they're living standards. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's the only thing? Really? That's all that it is? Oh, that's just one. Okay, all right, all right. It's falling that wide about housing. And the economic forecast for the next. decades suggest Britain is not going to grow. So that's number one. Number two is just
Starting point is 01:02:40 Kirstama's own personal unpopularity. He is so unpopular. It's just extraordinary. It's almost off the scale. No politician has ever come back from that. And then the third one is these what you might call culture, values, issues, identity issues. And that is the anger that's out there in Britain as in so many other countries about immigration, social cohesion, multiculturalism, how you treat British history. And that, again, does not look like dissipating. Oh, did they not bring in the Mandelson-Eptstein? No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:12 That was the big deal in Parliament. Interesting. Yeah, but that wasn't the reason people voted these guys out. I don't think the British public at large gives a shit about any of it. In fact, when I talked to Oralowski about it, he still thinks that Mandelson was still calling the shots. at 10 downing from the get-go and continue to do so after they fired him. Wouldn't surprise me. That's Andrew Orlowski from the register.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Friend of the show. No, he's not at the register. He's with the London Telegraph now. Oh, really? Oh, he's moved up a notch. Oh, he's been writing for the Telegraph for about. That's respectable. Six, seven years.
Starting point is 01:03:56 That's a respectable paper. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, friend of the show, F-O-F-S, F-O-T-S. Friend of the show. show. He does listen to. He will have heard me say this. Friend of the show, FOTS, FOTS. So he says that that's what, and he claims that, you know, that this Mendelsohn guy is still in play and I'm thinking, I don't think so, but okay. Well, what do we know? He's boots on the ground. He's living.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah, no, he's been right most of the time, but I don't, I'm not buying that one. Let's go with the last clip. One of the key policies of the Reform Party, which came out as the biggest winner in the elections in England is to combat illegal immigration. The UK Home Office says over the past eight years, 200,000 migrants reached England illegally by crossing the channel in small boats. You know what kills me? Because I lived in England. They lock up your pets for six months minimum.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Yeah, if you try to bring a dog to England, you might as well just forget it. Yes, for six months, 18 months, they lock up your dog because, oh, He might have rabies. He might have rabies. But it's illegal. They got no rabies. I don't mean. No hanta.
Starting point is 01:05:11 No nothing. Despite efforts to stop the boats, including a recent $800 million deal with France, the UK says the number of people making the journey has continued to rise. James Waters has sent us this report. The town of Middle Kerkow represents a step change. When you cross the border on the northern coast from France into Belgium, It's an affluent area
Starting point is 01:05:33 And the locals here are facing a problem That really is new to them Small boat migrant crossings The West Flanders deputy police chief Christian de Ritter is keen to nip it in the bud We have to stop them before they get to the UK And we have to find a way to stop them on the water If we could put on a naval barrier
Starting point is 01:05:54 So they don't get into French water Everything will stop This is I don't have any more close but it goes on and on with all these guys that are taking the, going across the, you know, I don't understand how you can go across the English Channel on the small boat. I took the Dunkirk Ferry probably twice. Yeah, it's bummed.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Before, you know, in the olden days, in the, like the 70s. And then, you know, then they went to a hovercraft, which was cool, a great way to get across. And then, of course, is the channel, which is the way to go. But that's the most sickening ride. ever had on a boat. Yeah. It turns, it bounces around.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I don't know how a little boat can go across the English channel. Well, that really depends on weather conditions. Well, yeah, I guess they look for the right day to do it, but it's not a short trip either. You'll recall that the Brits in World War II, I think it was World War II, they all these, you know, like hundreds, maybe thousands of small boats cast off from Britain to go pick up the troops who were locked and surrounded by the Germans in France. And they picked them up and they sailed them all back. And these were tiny little dinghies and all kinds of rowboats.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I don't know what kind of stuff they were doing. I don't think they were that small. They were small. They were small boats. I know they went to do that. Yeah. And I've flown over the English Channel many times, smooth as glass. Yeah, well, if you fly over.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Well, but 5,000 feet, you know, been to Cessna, I'm looking down. I'm like, oh, that's pretty nice. If anything, what do you mean? Oh, please. I have, that is a rough go getting across that channel. It is not. It can. There are people who swim across the channel.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Lunatics. I do have, I do have two quick quotes here from Nigel Farage. Here we go. This is the most unpatriotic prime minister we've ever had in this country. heading the most unpatriotic British government we've ever had in this country. And they're even worse than the conservatives in the last five years, and they weren't very good either.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And here he is with a quick prediction. I think if Labor get obliterated in the red wall and in South Wales and in Scotland, then, yeah, he'll be gone with the end of May, because the backbench will move against him. End of May? End of May, is what he's saying. Okay, I had to throw in a little aside here. Okay. We picked up on Nigel Farage as a character of importance. Early on.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Early on. Decade ago, well, 2009, probably. 150 years ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago. And we got grief from various UK listeners. Yeah, they told us, he's an idiot, he's no good, blah. And we were like, he's not going to cut. You're wasting your time following this guy's career.
Starting point is 01:08:56 You guys are off the mark. Are you spiking the ball? Is that what you're doing here? Yeah. Yeah. I'm spiking the ball without it we told you so. But it's like, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:09:09 this is typical of this show. Yes. We're on it. People hate us. That's what I'm trying to say. People hate us for years. For some reason, they still listen.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And then later they say, hey, man, thanks for saving my life. But donate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Value for, value people. Remember these valuable lessons. So I picked
Starting point is 01:09:32 up a clip, which is luckily it's only a minute because the guy's kind of insufferable. George Galloway. George Galloway is totally insufferable. But it's worth it in this case because he has, he's on to something that's going on with Kier-Starmer
Starting point is 01:09:48 and Galloway, now he used to be a politician. He was was he labor? I think it was labor. He must have been labor. So a communist. He's a communist basically. Yeah, and I think he became a columnist for The Guardian or something. Well, he was on Big Brother. It was all downhill from there.
Starting point is 01:10:06 No. So, yeah, he's a, he's no longer a columnist, John. He's what everybody else is. A YouTuber. He has what he thinks is a podcast because he's basically a YouTuber. And here he is. No art of the British media is covering the fact that at the end of this month, three Ukrainian rent boys.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Rent boys. Rent boys are on trial for allegedly arsoning the British Prime Minister, Kier, Starmor. Is that British? Can you say arsoning as like a verb? Arsoning? Like, like lighting somebody on fire? Yeah, arsoning. Is that a verb? I thought arson was just, well, maybe it is. Isn't it an adverb? No, arsoning. I've never heard of... Well, let's look it up. Just type it into the browser. It'll tell you. you. Okay. I never heard the usage that usage before. Let me see. Hey, Book of Knowledge, is arsoning? Can you say someone was arsoning someone else? Okay. To widely recognize term,
Starting point is 01:11:12 didn't work. That may be misspelling or a variation of arsenic. Poisoning. Yeah, arsoning is a real verb form. Mainly used in India. You can say someone was arsoning a building. Most people just say committing arson, though. Oh, all of a sudden. This is, now, see, that's different than this. This definition is widely recognized, which is a misspelling or a variation of arsenic. It does have a specific definition. Blah, blah, blah, blah, it goes on. Okay. All right. Back to the clip then, because this is getting fun. Rent boys, massage artists, male models, every one of them are Ukrainian, is charged with arsoning two separate residences, two separate vehicles.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Now, if this were happening to me or any other citizen in the land, every person in Britain would be fully conversant and would be speculating wildly on exactly why these Ukrainian Red Boys allegedly arsoned the British Prime Minister, but not one news report has occurred into the extraordinary circumstances of a serving British Prime Minister being singled out for reasons we know not why. allegedly by three Ukrainian rent boys.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And very pretty boys. The men are pleading not guilty. They may very well be innocent, but they may very well have to be cross-examined. But by the end of the trial, we'll know one whole lot more about just what they had held again. The British Prime Minister.
Starting point is 01:12:45 That's horrible. But... I can't talk like that if I wanted to. Now, so the press has started to pick up on it. They don't call them rent boys. is, but there is a story. The trial of three men accused of conspiring to commit arson against two properties and... This is proper. Conspiring to commit arson, not arsoning them.
Starting point is 01:13:08 A vehicle linked to the Prime Minister has started today at the old Bailey. Now, the three defendants, two Ukrainians and a Romanian, appeared in the dock this morning. And they are Roman Levinovich, a 22-year-old, Petro Potranochunoch, who's 35, and the 27-year-old, Stanislav Kar Puich. Now, they have been charged with conspiring to commit arson, and Roman LeVrinovich is also facing two further charges of committing arson with intent to endanger life. Now, all three defendants deny all of the charges set against them. Now, listen to this.
Starting point is 01:13:42 The prosecution here, opened by Duncan Atkinson, Casey, went through the three arson attacks in turn, starting with a Toyota set ablaze in the early hours of the 8th of May, and then a residential prize. property on Ellington Street in Kentish Town on the 11th of May and finally the third arsenal attack, another residential property also in Kentish Town on the 12th of May. They said it was immediately clear when the London Fire Brigade and the police attended the second of those arson attacks that hit it had been set on fire purposely and that in both
Starting point is 01:14:18 of the properties where fires had been started, smoke and flames had entered the houses endangering the lives of those within them. Now, the prosecution went through some of the data and information that had collected on the defendants to build the case, including telegram chats, locations, and images as well. Now, there were discussions held between the defendants about these arson attacks, and there was also a discovery on the telegram end-to-end encrypted platform. How does that work?
Starting point is 01:14:52 Where the defendants were speaking with a Russian-speaking telegram account called L-Money. And Jerry were told not to consider any ideological or political motivation behind these arson attacks. Instead, stating that they were motivated by money, not by any political or ideological reasons. There you go. L-Money is the Russian pimp. And the Starmor stiff, the rent boys. so to speak. Didn't pay him.
Starting point is 01:15:27 So they decided to burn it down. I think Galloway's onto something here. Maybe. Yeah. Then that would fall right in line with Mandelson tricks. Because he's all about the rent boys. Everything is fishy. Everything is literally fake and gay at this point.
Starting point is 01:15:46 It's amazing. So I have an Africa clip. Oh, there goes the audience. Well, it leads to an Ask Adam. Oh, boy. Okay. Now, the Africa clip is short. Well, it's not that short, but it's just Nigeria.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Something's up with Nigeria. And I think if you read between the lines on this Nigeria clip, this is just another attempt to get a strangle hole on the oil production of Nigeria. Nigeria. Big oil producing African nation. Yeah. Go. Nigeria, Vance, is that the one we're playing here?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah, yeah, it's the only one you go. Nigeria and the United States have agreed to deepen cooperation on security and counterterrorism following high-level talks in Washington. The renewed diplomatic push comes amid a surge in deadly attacks in Nigeria, particularly in Plateau and Benewa states, where hundreds have been killed and communities displaced. Chris O'Walko reports from Abuja. A statement from Nigeria's presidency said that the national security advice
Starting point is 01:16:54 Nuhuri Badu met senior U.S. officials including the Vice President J.D. Vans and the Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Both sides agreed to expand intelligence-sharing, defense cooperation and regional security efforts. Discussions reportedly focused on counterterrorism and the deteriorating security situation in West Africa and the Sahel, where jihadis have been attacking in several countries. Nigeria had already committed to tackling terrorism and violent extremism in the fight against Boko Haram and the Islamic. state, West Africa province. Well, isn't this just about the mines, the gold, the minerals?
Starting point is 01:17:29 I think that and the oil. The oil in West Africa? Is that in Nigeria? I believe there's oil in Nigeria. I think Nigeria is a major producer. I'm not mistaken. Well, there's also, they're killing Christians. Yeah, that's all happening in Nigeria.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yeah, well, they didn't have that in the report. But it was interesting to me, this was a Vance and Rubio, which they usually kept apart. Hmm. Hmm. I don't know what that's all about. It's a contest as to see who can do better at Nigeria,
Starting point is 01:17:59 and that will help determine who Trump is going to support for 2028. I think Trump's going to stay out of it. All right. Ask Adam. Ask Adam. I'm ready for you. I'm going to ask you before we play the clip, because the answer is in the clip. Okay. Because I was kind of surprised by this myself. Okay. How many languages are spoken on the continent?
Starting point is 01:18:24 of Africa. Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Will he know or really won't? I don't know, but here we go. Ask Adam. Answer the question. Go.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Now, first of all, Africa is big. It's big. There's a lot of tribes. So I'm going to go, I'm going to bet all of my money in this round of, you're all in. I'm all in. I'm all in on this round of.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Jeopardy. I'm going to say 537 languages on the continent of Africa. We did a series of children, child presenters, 14 of them from across Africa. And I'm blown away by how it's not just the audience
Starting point is 01:19:12 who related to these kids. It's how those kids became fanatic conservationists because they were selected for their stage presence to be hosts of a TV show about wildlife. So I do think that local relevance and resonance with the people on the ground is very important. And in a continent like Africa where we have over 2,000 languages, we need people to be telling the stories in all those languages and bringing in our cultural knowledge.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Wow. Well, luckily my fellow contestants were all like 20, 35, a bunch of losers. Over 2,000. I go to final jeopardy. That's not a tip of the day. That is our little factoid that people can now use to bet money. This is a money maker. Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Over 2,000. Man. And do you think that the one tribe could understand the other one? I'm sure there's always something, probably one guy. There's a polyglot in every group that can speak three or four of these languages. The superstar, you know. 2000. Over 2,000.
Starting point is 01:20:15 That's a lot. Yeah, I like to see a list. That's crazy. They probably can't even call them. They don't even have names. Hey, so since you brought up Rubio, we both brought up Rubio and Vance, and you think Trump's going to stay out of it. Very possible.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I got a couple clips about Tucker. Actually, one with Tucker because... Oh, after I did all these Tucker things that you groused about. Yeah, but I'm bringing new stuff to the table. You know, you just bring an old hat. Yes, I groused about it. Did you say old hat? Old hat, yes, old hat.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Oh, man. Another boomer adjacent term here on the No Agenda show. He had Massey on, again, Massey. To complain. Massey's under attack. Yes. And that's why he went on Tucker. And so I have a short clip first of the, it's the Massey disappointment list.
Starting point is 01:21:14 But Trumps have changed dramatically. At least the disconnect between what he said he was going to do, what he's doing is shocking. I, you know, when I endorsed him, I thought we wouldn't have a new. war. I thought we would get warrants for FISA that they had used to spy on him. I thought that Maha would be front and center at the HHS with Bobby Kennedy there. I thought that we would have sane foreign policy. I thought that where we put America first, that's my definition of saying. I thought we would end our involvement in the war in Ukraine. I thought we would release all the Epstein files and indict some of those SOBs.
Starting point is 01:21:55 and those are all the things I'm still fighting for. Do you think Massey, is he a little blinded by his hatred? Because, I mean, I see Maha doing something. I think Maha is doing all it can do. It's up against the most powerful forces. In the universe. In the United States, the big pharma force that owns the media. And are we still involved?
Starting point is 01:22:25 What is he expected Maha to do? I mean, I'm super disappointed and they haven't, you know, just stopped it. TV advertising. That would make a difference. Yeah. But, I mean, have we not withdrawn from the Ukraine War? Have we not withdrawn from that? I think we haven't withdrawn from it.
Starting point is 01:22:41 I mean, we're not really in the Ukraine war. No, but he says, well, we should get out of the Ukraine War. We're not in it. We're selling stuff. I don't know. I think he's a little blinded by hatred. I don't think he's a hater. I think he's just like he's, he's, he's an ideologue.
Starting point is 01:23:00 And he has his, you know, and he's, he's kind of a stick in the mud. So New York Magazine has a big thing going on about Tucker. New York Magazine. Everything is, I'm telling you, Tucker is a, I said in the last show and I had the clip of them, you know, trying to slam him. He is a right now a lightning rod and he's an op. Here is the New York Magdude talking on France 24 of all places about this. Last month, Tucker Carlson, the influential far-right commentator, said he regretted voting for Donald Trump. He made a comment on his podcast during a conversation with his brother Buckley, a former Trump speechwriter.
Starting point is 01:23:46 You and me and millions of people like us for the reason. this is happening right now. Yes. So I do think it's like a moment. I love that right there. You and me and a bunch of other people is the reason this is happening right now. Do you think that this is, that Tucker is the reason this is happening right?
Starting point is 01:24:08 I'd give Marjorie Taylor Green more props than Tucker. And what's his face? Your boy. Talking boy. Come on. Fuentes. Fuentes. I give him some craters.
Starting point is 01:24:21 credit. Well, he's now came out and said he's a Democrat, which I'm not sure. Well, there's that. There's that. But I think, you know, for Tucker to spike, you know, toot his own horn here, like, oh, yeah, well, this is all because of us. Buckley? Buckley. Buckley. Buckley.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Buckley. Can you get a yard dust, please? Like us for the reason this is happening right now. Yes. Yes. So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. Oh, we did such a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:24:57 And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. Yes, because the people vote based upon what Tucker Carlson says. It was not intentional. I was too. I'm so sorry. Carlson has come full circle. Decades before he became one of his strongest supporters, Carlson had called Trump, quote, the single most repulsive person on the planet. Now, that is interesting.
Starting point is 01:25:22 So in the 90s, he hated Trump, then he loved Trump, now he hates Trump. I think this guy doesn't know anything. It just goes with whatever, we'll get some clicks or views or whatever. I think that's been asserted. He made that comment in a 1999 post on the website Slate. That was just before he became a CNN commentator. Carlson later worked at MSNBC. Both outlets that MAGA movement today considered.
Starting point is 01:25:50 as liberal fake news. It wasn't until Carlson joined Fox that he found real notoriety on primetime of America's most watched news network. Carlson often went on vicious rants against women, immigrants or people of color. For many liberals, charging racism has become an almost involuntary habit, a tick that is literally the definition of racism. These very same people are the quickest to cry racism. Sarah Zhang is an angry bigot. bigot. It's not about Brett Kavanaugh at this point. It's about punishing everyone who looks like Brett Kavno. But let's get back to the race thing. Race, skin color, racial division, race, and gender.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Skin color. Carlson was hyperbolic, contrary. I'm sorry? He calls it a vicious rant. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, if you take it out of context. There is, you could say more entertainer than commentator. After all, Fox News once even won a court case by persuasively arguing that no reasonable viewer takes Tucker Carlson seriously. But today, reasonable legacy media taken very seriously since... Huh? I didn't know that. What?
Starting point is 01:27:02 That Fox won a court case and their legal argument that it was nobody takes Tucker seriously? Yes. Oh, I remember that. Absolutely. That's hilarious. He's a commentator. Oh, yeah. So here's the
Starting point is 01:27:16 Here's the guy from the He's the author of this piece in a New Yorker For more we can speak to the New Yorkers Jason Zengerly He's also the author of Hated by All the Right People Tucker Carlson and the unraveling Of the conservative mind
Starting point is 01:27:31 Jason, thank you for speaking to Scoop First question I guess Could you foresee? Why are you oh brothering? This could be fun. You have no idea. No, it's just the guy I mean For one thing
Starting point is 01:27:44 if I'm not mistaken, New York Magazine was a Murdoch property for a long time. This is New Yorker, New Yorker. Oh, that's New Yorker. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's a New Yorker. Oh, that's a big difference. Yeah, I'm sorry. I said it wrong in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Yeah. Isn't New Yorker part of the New York Times? No, no, not at all. New Yorker is a stick up its ass operation that's been around forever. They're very serious about themselves. No, it's not a New York Times thing at all in the property at all. Well, then wait to hear what he has to say. Traveling of the conservative mind.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Jason, thank you for speaking to Scoop. First question, I guess. Could you foresee this happening, this falling out between Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson? Yeah, you could because it's not the first time this has happened. I mean, Tucker's relationship with Trump has been a bit of a roller coaster over the last three decades, as you pointed out. The degree to which the falling out has occurred and the severity with which it's, which Tucker is now denouncing Trump. I think that's a little surprising. But the fact that they've fallen out, I mean, as recently as, you know, four years ago, they had fallen out. So that itself
Starting point is 01:28:55 isn't necessarily anything new. What do you think about this flurry of interest on both sides of the Atlantic about what Tucker Carlson thinks? I mean, with the BBC and the economist, we're interviewing him before he had said he regretted of voting for Trump. Should we be preparing for a 2028 presidential run by Tucker Carlson? It does seem like he's preparing for that. He seems to be setting himself up for something. And I think that explains some of the forcefulness of his denunciations of Trump. I mean, look, this has been obviously prompted by the war in Iran.
Starting point is 01:29:28 And Tucker, there has been one sort of consistent thing with him over the past two decades, and that is his opposition to American adventurism abroad. And that was one of the reasons he was supporting Trump as he thought Trump was in America first. So the fact that Trump has done this, you can see why Trump would be angry. or like Tucker would be angry. And you can see Tucker, you know, viewing this as possibly an opening for him to run
Starting point is 01:29:52 in 28 and to inherit that mantle of isolationism. Wow. New Yorker. It's bogus. Are you speech? So why would you just said New Yorker take themselves very seriously? They do. They take
Starting point is 01:30:09 themselves very seriously. They write long. The ideas, the magazine is designed. for the thoughtful individual who likes to read. There's the essays in there aren't short and sweet, and to the point, they're more feature lengths. Well, they're not actually, they're pretty well written. The writing in the magazine is quite good,
Starting point is 01:30:32 or the editing, one of the two. And so the stuff is good. They've kind of lost their edge with the cartoons, though. They used to have some of the more... Oh, didn't they have... the dog with on the internet, nobody knows your dog. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:30:49 that's a classic. Yeah. But they, they've always had these cartoon editors that were top notch. Didn't they fire those guys and start using AI? They lost one of the cartoon editors that was one of the better, arrogant character.
Starting point is 01:31:02 I guess you got on everybody's nerves and they put in some woke people to pick the cartoons. And if you look at their cartoons, they're mostly, they're lame compared to what they used to be 10 years ago. Well, so how about this? then. Could they be pushing Tucker Carlson to fracture the magabase and giving people some kind of
Starting point is 01:31:22 false hope or throwing, stirring the pot to... It could be. I mean, there's somebody, I mean, it's obviously Tucker is part of the, and along with Fuentes, who's his love, hate relationship with him and Fuentes. He goes on about how great Fuentes is in one minute. And he says, I'm sorry I ever interviewed the guy in another interview. I mean, Tucker's all over the map. The guy's like a drunk driver. The new woker. Well, then this last clip may actually explain what's going on here. Megan Kelly, also a former Fox host, as she says she's a close friend of Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 01:32:01 She said she thinks a reason why the New York Times interviewed him was because they hate Trump more than they hate Tucker. So they were eager to have that opportunity to get someone to bash Trump. I mean, what do you think about these media taking the decision to interview Tucker? Does that, do they have to stoop to their level or was it newsworthy? Because in this day and age, we're seeing influencers like Tucker Carlson have perhaps more reach than traditional media. Well, I think people have wanted to interview Tucker for a while. I think what's interesting is that Tucker is doing the interviews. I don't think Megan Kelly should be questioning anybody's motives, frankly.
Starting point is 01:32:38 But I think that Tucker, Look, there are a lot of people who have broken with Trump over the years, and there's always been this expectation that, oh, this is the moment that MAGA is going to fracture, and that doesn't happen. I think that's the same thing that's going to happen this time. I don't think this is going to fracture MAGA. He doesn't think so.
Starting point is 01:32:56 So maybe they're not doing that. I don't know. I don't know. But they're taking him seriously for some reason. He's got an agent. Who? I mean, a talent agent is getting him these gigs. I have no, this whole thing is, it just seems so phony.
Starting point is 01:33:19 All right. Sorry, I brought it up. No, I'm glad you brought it up. I have a clip of, I'm kind of like to watch it myself. It's like, it's like watching a car wreck. I have a clip of, very strange. I have a clip of Alan Dershowitz. There's another guy who, you know, before you play,
Starting point is 01:33:39 let me play a couple of characters. character assassination clips. Yeah. Because I've got, Alan Dershowitz is on the list. I know you're going to groan about this, but John Kiriaku. Hey, you've had plenty of groan about my clips today,
Starting point is 01:33:55 so you're good. You have free reign. This guy, he has, I mean, I'm going to start collecting his character assassination clips because, and he's got Dershowitz in there coming up. That's coming up. But I've got two today. I got one on Newsom.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Explain who Kariaku is. Just explain who Kariaku is. Kariaku. Okay, Kariaku is a whistleblower at the CIA. He was both an analyst and it became a field agent. So he has a broad spectrum of experience with the agency. And he refused to get involved with the torture program. And he was the only one who didn't want to take the training or do anything else.
Starting point is 01:34:36 And he thought it was illegal and he blew the whistle. He says in hindsight what he should have done was that of a lawyer with him from the get-go because he was kind of naive about blowing the whistle. And just to explain this is the Abu Ghraib prison torture? Yeah, and the other, yeah. And so he blew the whistle and got thrown in jail for two years under some charged espionage act or some bullshit. And he's very pissed off about that.
Starting point is 01:35:07 but now he's got a talent agent and he's all over the place and he's on a lot of podcasts, a couple of favorites he likes to do. And he talks too much. Does he have a book? How does he make money? Oh, he's got, I think, three books. Oh, okay. He's got a bunch of books.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yeah. But he likes to talk and he likes the character assassination. Here he is on Newsom. Gavin Newsom was a member of the San Francisco City Council. Then he was the chairman of the city council. then he was the mayor of San Francisco, then the lieutenant governor of California, then the governor of California.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Okay? So this is a very well-thought-out plan to move higher, higher, higher, and become president. When he was running for governor of California, he asked his lifelong best friend, who was also his campaign manager, to represent him at a political function. The man did.
Starting point is 01:36:04 It wasn't because Newsom was busy. It was because Newsom was having an affair with his best friend's wife. And they got caught. What kind of person is that? If your best friend and your own wife can't trust you, why am I supposed to trust you? Are you going to screw me behind your back as an American taxpayer? So I don't like or trust Gavin Newsom at all. What was this interview from? I said, you know, I think he's got this one guy. He loves the interview with this.
Starting point is 01:36:40 I can't remember his name. He's a podcast, very slick video podcast, very YouTuber. YouTube. It's well produced. It's got a lot of bouquet in the shots. The sound is dynamite. Okay. Yeah, bouquet is where you have the person in front is in high focus and the background is blurry.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Oh, beautiful. Yes. beautiful. That's hard to do. What you need is you need certain kinds of lenses to make that look good. Yeah, yeah, you do. And it's just too I mean, the podcast is super slick. Anyway, so here he is
Starting point is 01:37:16 talking about CIA directors that he hates. And he's got both Gina Haskell and Mike Pompeo and here's what he says. He made a mistake twice in his first term appointing very, very bad people.
Starting point is 01:37:34 as CIA director. Very bad. Like, Mike Pompeo, oh my God. The only person less popular than Mike Pompeo at the CIA was Mrs. Mike Pompeo. Let me tell you. I got that from one of his bodyguards. And then Gina Haskell. Wait, wait, why? Why? You, go get my dry cleaning. You, go walk my dog. They're like, lady, we don't work for you. We're protecting your husband. We're not going to go get your dry cleaning and walk your dog. The other one was bloody Gina Haspel. We call, we call. We called her Bloody Gina for a good reason. And like, that's the person that you appoint to the CIA directorship.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Wait, why do you call her Bloody Gina? Because she flew out to the secret site to sit in on one of the torture sessions just because she could just to sit there and enjoy it and take it all in. What kind of sick person does something like that? He's probably right.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I believe that. Yeah. Yeah, we knew that she was called Bloody Gina. You'd heard about that. Yeah. Okay. So you think Dershowitz, he's going to assassinate Dershowitz? Dershowich is coming up.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Yeah. He doesn't like Dershwitz. He doesn't like anybody. He thinks that Rudy Giuliani should be in jail. He's dying. He's dying. He's not going to make it to jail. I agree.
Starting point is 01:38:52 So Dershowitz, he's kind of on board with our theory about Epstein, which you might want to reiterate. Yeah. He was a pimp. literally running a horror house in New York, a big one
Starting point is 01:39:11 for the elites at the high prices. And the island never really came into play. And he would procure and he would procure underage, but it's also,
Starting point is 01:39:23 I think he'd probably, I think he also procured gays. Yeah, there's no talk of that anywhere. No, it is, it's starting to show up. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:32 So Dershowitz takes, and this has always been my thing, what are these victims? I'd like to, you know, the first lady said, hey, why don't you all go on the record, victims? Tell us your story, victims on the congressional record. So, you know, you can talk freely there. Your NDAs don't count. It's okay. I don't think any hearings have been scheduled. I don't think anyone jumped up and down to get that going.
Starting point is 01:40:00 and Dershowitz has his thoughts about the victims. He was not a pedophile. I have no information about any pedophiles in the Epstein circle. A pedophile medically is somebody who is interested in pre-pubescent people, pre-pubescent people, 10, 11, 12. That was not his modus operandi. He was interested in 16-year-old, 17, 18-year-olds. That's a terrible thing.
Starting point is 01:40:27 By the way, it's legal in France. It's legal. many parts of Europe. So it's hard to say you're a pedophile in America, but not in France. Pedophile is not a legal term. It's a medical, psychological term. So I don't think there's a real case for people being called pedophiles, although everybody calls them a pedophile. I also don't believe there was any trafficking going on. What happened is he made it known to young people in Palm Beach. If you come and give me a massage, you get $30.50. And many of them came back over and over and over again, collected the $250 and then got $500 if they recruited other people to come and give
Starting point is 01:41:06 him more massages. And then there was this third category, a very large category of women who never met Jeffrey Epstein, never laid eyes on him. And their corrupt lawyers in Palm Beach would go to them and say, how old are you? Oh, you were about that age when you, yeah, why don't you just say you gave Epstein a massage, we'll collect $50,000 for you? And they did. Right. So I, I would love to see a thorough investigation of every single claimed survivor and victim and find out how many there really were. There were plenty. Yeah, you know, no one's ever going to buy into our theory. They are so convinced that there's people, people eating babies on the island.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Eating babies. Eating babies. And Trump played into that himself in many ways. You know, and Q has a lot of Q stuff. and then children being shipped in Wayfair boxes. We've seen it all. But in this case, I think Dershowitz is on the right track. That sounds right to me.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Yeah, but it's not going to help. Now, we got to also another thing that broke this week's UFO files. I got two clips. Yeah, I got a couple things on that too. Let's see, UFO files. All right, here we go. Back here at home to the Pentagon releasing UFO files, the Trump administration releasing never-before-seeing images of unexplained objects in the sky
Starting point is 01:42:35 collected by the U.S. government dating all the way back to the 1940s. Here's Tom Kostela with those images. Tonight, more mysterious images just revealed. 160 government files detailing 400 alleged UFO encounters, including this infrared military video from 2013 of what appears to be an eight-pointed star streaking across the sky. Mysterious white and black aerial blips that defy the laws of physics. More grainy, still images of the unexplained.
Starting point is 01:43:08 And this image taken from the moon by the Apollo 17 astronauts of what appears to be lights hovering overhead. The astronauts later suggested it could have been ice crystals. Today, President Trump posted, with these new documents and videos, the people can decide for themselves. but there are no reports of aliens or spacecraft in government custody. Yeah, I saw the website. It's lame.
Starting point is 01:43:35 There's nothing new there. It's lame. It's like, oh, it is lame. Did you see it? You look at the website, you know, black and white, black and white all like the X-Files. Oh, the best thing I've seen recently in terms of grainy black and white stuff is the WikiLeaks moon outtakes. Have you seen this? Moon outtakes? What is this?
Starting point is 01:43:58 Outtakes. WikiLeaks have found a file of the moon landing that you're always saying is a fake. Yes. Outtakes showing it was being filmed as it was being filmed in the Arizona or the Nevada Desert. Okay. And they have the guy, the same guys,
Starting point is 01:44:16 they got Neil Armstrong and they got the whole thing. It's like very, right up your alley. I'm surprised you didn't see it. I may have seen it. But there's so much is... No, no, you would have remembered it, believe me. It's long. Okay, I have to look for that.
Starting point is 01:44:30 But it's like, yeah. You know, everything on the internet is AI. Who knows? I don't know. I don't know anymore. We absolutely... No, you can't. Yeah, well, I think that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Here's UFO files, too. Many leading astrophysicists remain skeptical. Just because you see something and you don't know what it is, you can't... Oh, is this Neil deGrasse Tyson? Yeah, duh. man, that guy. Oh, you know, I have the stargazer. See something and you don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:45:00 You can't then say it must be aliens visiting from outer space. The documents date back to the 1940s, including an FBI report from an Air Force colonel, reporting a flying disc. More recent reports from fighter pilots, this diagram from people who claimed they witnessed a cigar-shaped object, and a 2023 video of three concentric circles flying in unison. I have not seen anything to suggest that we've been visited by any intelligent life forms out there. But the universe is massive, at least two trillion galaxies and trillions more planets. Given the vastness of the universe, it's really hard to imagine that life, and even intelligent life, hasn't formed somewhere. It's hard to imagine that anybody is visiting us or
Starting point is 01:45:47 continually visiting us. And Tom, tonight there is a pattern, though a lot of these images coming from military pilots that are near or around military facilities or ships? Yeah, and that raises concern that some of these unexplained aerial phenomenon could include technology that America's adversaries here on Earth possess, but we don't. This is a continuous thing that I hear in all of these reports. It might be UFOs, but it could also be some great technology, military technology from other people, other countries that we don't possess. And, you know, I'm thinking we need to have about half a trillion dollars extra for the budget next year. Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to, yep.
Starting point is 01:46:33 So we probably get everybody all kind of, every report has that, every single one. It could also, I mean, it could be, you know, phones, but it could also be some Chinese technology. And if you Yeah, sure, the Chinese have to still copy our jets. They have to find a jet and then make a phony will only copy of it. Wait a minute. Because they can't dream up anything by themselves. I mean, not that they can't, but they haven't been able. They haven't done it. It could be Russian technology.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Are you saying? Yeah, the Russians do the same thing. Are you saying the UFOs are real? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying what I'm saying. What I'm doing is commenting on your comment about this being a something of a scam just to get more money for the budget. I'm in a roundabout way agreeing with you.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Okay, good. By saying the Russians and the Chinese, they're not, they don't have, they're not, they don't have flying saucers. So what we always do with our Department of War, or formerly known as, the artist formerly known as Department of Defense, we bring in our Hollywood guys. Remember the timeline. June 12th is not that far away people coming to IMAX. I've always been fascinated with things that cannot be explained. What is it? You don't believe me if I told.
Starting point is 01:47:50 you. So I'm going to show you. And I've made a lot of movies about things that cannot be explained, from sharks to saucers. Do you think there could be others? When I was just a little kid, I remember developing a real curiosity about the sky at night and what's happening up there. People have a right to know the truth. And also not the possibility, but the guarantee that there is life off this planet. People keep wandering, encountering the unknown. People's questions about what is not only going on in our skies, but what is.
Starting point is 01:48:20 going on in our worlds, in our realities, has reached a critical mass. They're coming! They're coming! Of people's complete fascination with, are we alone or are we not alone? They are starved for the truth. And if someone knows we're not alone, why haven't we been told?
Starting point is 01:48:37 Full disclosure to the whole world, all at once. Full disclosure, all at once. This is the entire script in movie form. Yeah, we got some guys, Full disclosure. Disclosure Day coming from Universal Pictures. Yeah, the old movie. It's so obvious. Now, we've got two guys out there. We've got Senator Burleson, who I think is from Missouri. We've got Senator Burchett from Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Who basically Bertchitt, I think is Burchett. I think he was on some show that he basically lives in his car. What? I didn't hear this. He lives in his. his car? Yeah, he's talking about how you can't get a place in D.C. So he's got a bed in his office that he sleeps in. And then he goes to the gym to shower. Well, he was on Joe Rogan. And I found, and Joe is a big UFO guy. I hope Joe gave him a place to shower. Maybe gave him a room to stay. You have no knowledge of what's supposed to be released because it, we're, today's Wednesday. I'm going to know tomorrow at three. or 3 p.m. Is that when the world knows?
Starting point is 01:49:55 No, I think they're going to ask me, just give me a little bit of it. But I got a feeling they're not going to tell me much. I got a feeling they're not going to tell America not much. When, is it supposed to be disclosed this week? Whatever they're going to disclose? I don't know. I don't know. If they're going to disclose it to us,
Starting point is 01:50:11 then it'll be out right as soon as they hang up the phone with some guys. So, okay, we know what the disclosure was. It was a dumb website. There wasn't anything exciting or new that I could tell. But Burchett, oh, he's got some stories. He's got some good stories. No, but it's interesting. I had that
Starting point is 01:50:27 deep throat moment, you know, not the porn version, the, the Richard Nixon moment, you know, where I was walking in the tunnel one day and a person came up to me. And it's always a friend. It's always a friend that does this and said, it was just the strangest
Starting point is 01:50:43 conversation. And I'll never forget it because he said, Bertic, he said, you know, you're really pushing on this UFO thing? And I could, yeah, yeah, I am. He said, Do you really think we need to do this? And I just kept listening. When I was a young man, I'd have run my mouth and said, oh, shut up.
Starting point is 01:50:59 But I listened to what he said. He said, I mean, you know, this could upset the religious community and all this other. I mean, some of this stuff just left unknown, you know. And I said, no, it's not. The government has no right to decide what I can and cannot understand or handle or see. And to me, and every time, Joe, let me tell you what they're going to do. I had a two-page bill for disclosure. And Chuck Schumer had one that was 60 pages, I believe.
Starting point is 01:51:29 And he modeled his after the Kennedy assassination committee release, which were over 60 years into that, and we still don't, they haven't released everything on President Kennedy getting shot. And that's what they wanted to model this dadgum thing after. Mine was two pages long. Of course, mine didn't get anywhere. Dadgum. Dadgum.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Dad gum. I love dadgum. Dad gum. So what you heard in there. is how this could upset the religious community. Well, it did. This was a crazy story. Two stories broke today and they are collided in a way nobody expected.
Starting point is 01:52:04 A pastor in Alabama issued a public apology to a sitting member of Congress over the viral UFO clip. And on the same news cycle, former President Barack Obama went on national television and told the country flat out at the disclosure everyone is waiting for isn't coming. Hey, you followages. I'm Christina Gomez, and welcome to this episode of UFO News updates. Larry Ragland, a senior pastor of the Solid Rock Church in Birmingham, Alabama, claimed in a video that a very well-known congressman from Missouri called into a private meeting with pastors and warned them that the U.S. government is preparing to tell the public that aliens ceded humanity and that there is no God and that Jesus and the Bible were both inventions of these beings. The clip identified the congressman as Eric Burleson, who said, sits on the White House Oversight Subcommittee investigating UAP, and the clip went everywhere. This was fantastic. So there's all these YouTube pastors, and they're all about end times, and this is it.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Look at what's happening. It's Iran. Oh, it's all going down now, people. Jesus is on his way. Here's the clip that this guy put out. I'm a full of pastors invited to come to a private meeting with a group of men who are connected with the intelligence world that are believers, but are still have very high security clearance. These are legit, true men of God that are still connected to Washington and even this current administration and all branches of military. And they literally told us we had a sitting congressman, a very well-known congressman from Missouri. He called into that meeting as well. That was just for pastors. And this is what he said.
Starting point is 01:53:39 On speakerphone, this sitting, powerful member of Congress said, are the pastors listening to me? I'm getting chills right now because this happened. Wait, hold on. Yeah. Nobody recorded this. It was on speaker. No, no, no, no, of course not. This was an intelligence briefing. You can't record that. No, no, no, no. It's on speaker you can.
Starting point is 01:53:59 But no one did. No one did. These pastors were on the honor system. Pastors in the room listening to me. And I said, yes, sir, we are here. And he said, listen to me. Go and tell the church. They are not ready for what is coming. The narrative that is coming, what they are going to. to say is going to be like nothing you can even imagine. They are preparing to tell us that they are from another dimension, that they are our creator, and that these beings, these aliens, whatever you want to call them, they were the ones that seated us here. There is no such thing as God.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Jesus was invented by them. The Bible was invented by them. And begin to just say, listen, prepare the people for what is coming because they're not ready. So Joe brings this up. But here's what was interesting. There were two briefings. And I heard about one of them because it took place during NRB.
Starting point is 01:54:56 By the way, take Clip of the Day for that last clip. Oh, it's so soon already. Okay. Sorry. I'll take it. Clap of the day. Thank you. And it gets followed by my getting to say, oh, brother.
Starting point is 01:55:12 No, you can, but this is good. This is really because Burles, did talk to the pastors. This guy, this Larry Ragland, he had to issue an apology and he said, oh, you know, he didn't really say that all this was coming,
Starting point is 01:55:29 that, you know, that the aliens had created the Bible and made up the whole story about God. That was my editorial. I should have made it clear that that wasn't what the senator said. But it was Berluson who spoke to those pastors in Missouri. And Burchett,
Starting point is 01:55:45 he spoke to pastors during NRB. I heard someone someone mentioned something. Oh, there's some offside in an Airbnb and, you know, there's some senator calling him. And it did happen.
Starting point is 01:55:59 That was Burchett. Burleson was the other one. And here's where Joe brings it up to Burchett. And Birch is like, eh, because already people are only talking about Burleson, they're not talking about Burchett. But he did it too. Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent you, Jamie,
Starting point is 01:56:12 is a co. That's bonkers. I don't think about all this. I don't buy that. I don't. So this is a. guy, it says his name is Alan Dido.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Yeah. And it's weird. See, this was a whole different YouTube pastor, not the original guy. Capital D, lowercase I, capital D. Dio. Dio. After sitting in a private
Starting point is 01:56:35 meeting with pastors and those connected to these investigations, the message was clear. UFO and UAP disclosure is coming. Pastors must prepare their people now. Silence is not an option. Well, what does that mean? Like, what are they preparing the people for? Like, what, why would they bring in...
Starting point is 01:56:52 You're a pastor's I've never heard of. You know, I would think it is. I do. I think it is. I think if he'd have brought anybody in, he brought Franklin Graham in. Is this gentleman a pastor himself? Click on his, uh... Yeah, he runs. Well, I mean, he also has a show, which is, uh... Of course he does.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Oh, so his show is about disclosure? The Revival Nation Church or something. No, no, I don't know that. This is just what these clips are coming around. Can you click on his bio, please? like what it clicks, what it says, equipping end time believers for the next great awakening. Oh, boy. I would warn people that think we're in the end times.
Starting point is 01:57:29 The Bible is pretty clear about that. It says that they don't even, the angels in heaven don't even know when the end times are. The end's coming. I'll spare you the long clip where it turns out that indeed both these guys spoke to a group of pastors, one in Missouri, one in Tennessee. and he's really, oh, that's bull crap. He did it. It was definitely Burchett.
Starting point is 01:57:53 And I think that these guys are, I don't know, but Berlison, he may be a little bit deeper into the, we've got to get everybody on board because this is fun and we can get more money for the military. Birchett is probably just a true believer who sleeps in his office and his car. I don't know, but he definitely did that. And now you bring in these idiots, whoever invited the pastors, I'm sorry to say it, but the YouTube pastors, the end time pastors, they're out of control.
Starting point is 01:58:20 They just talk all kinds of crap and then they scare people and, you know, we did a survey at our church. Like, what would you like to hear Pastor Jimmy preach about? Number three on the list, end times, because everybody's watching this. It's nuts. But of course, if you follow the no agenda logic of military, there's always this thing lurking in the shadows which we've been talking about for almost two decades. Project Blue Beam is going to be used. Not as a replacement for real actions.
Starting point is 01:58:53 It's going to be used the way that Hollywood uses CGI. And it's possible there's going to be involvement from Hollywood in this as well, where they're going to be using holograms in order to do what Hollywood calls sweetening of these false flags. And so in other words, they can actually actually. actually have, when we have, for instance, fake alien invasion, where we will have the cabals and all of these tic-tacks against a city, against one of our major cities to actually destroy it and to make it basically to wreak havoc upon one of our cities.
Starting point is 01:59:35 That's always lurking in the shadows. Project Bluebeam. It fits. It fits. If you want to talk conspiracy, second half of a show. Project Blue Beam fits like a T to this. And I don't know if Trump knows about this. But he's like, oh, you guys want to disclose something. All right, we'll put it out, whatever. Whatever we got, some Tick-Tac videos. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Yeah, well, that went nowhere. Yeah, it did. I took it right to Project Blue Beam. What are you talking about? Perfect. I rounded it out. I rounded it out. I could do the thing about the guy who wrote the book and got killed,
Starting point is 02:00:14 but I don't think. I didn't want to bore you with that. Yeah, I remember the guy who wrote the book. Did you know the guy who wrote the book? No, I never met the guy who wrote the book. Serge Mons. The funny thing is, you know, they talk about, well, the CIA didn't contribute to this. The CIA has a database that you can look stuff up in.
Starting point is 02:00:33 I talked about this five years ago. You can look up UFOs in the CIA database, and there's a bunch of screwball stories in there. There's about the guy in the five. that he found the alien spacecraft and he tried to move and he was frozen because of some mental trick they were playing on him. It's all in the CIA files. A whole bunch of these crazy stories. And these never come to the four.
Starting point is 02:01:02 It's very weird. Only the good ones that they're really working on like Project Bluebeam. Maybe. Would you put it past our government? Just to finish up on a lighter note. Okay. before we go into the break. So there was a couple of these actresses now in Hollywood
Starting point is 02:01:24 are becoming only fans, women. Couple, a whole bunch of them. Like big names. And they're making money. Are they cute? Well, there's a bunch of big names. And the latest one is Jamie. I think your name is Jamie Presley.
Starting point is 02:01:43 She used to be in. actress can't get work. But I thought we'd go to the well because just as an example, how much money can these girls make? I was watching the whatever podcast, where I clip from it, and they had this woman, Caitlin Seguora,
Starting point is 02:02:01 talking about her income, her total income she's made. She's one of the more successful, you only fans girls. And I'll mention that Brunetti's wife, who is a copyright lawyer, an intellectual property lawyer represents one of the women who makes $10 million a year. No wonder he quit movies.
Starting point is 02:02:24 What a hassle. Well, she's not getting the 10 million. She's not the stripper. No, but let the wife. You get at these 10% let the wife do the work. Good idea. So this is Caitlin Seguer talking about her income. Kate, you've also, I think on some other podcast mentioned in terms of your income from
Starting point is 02:02:43 fans it's quite substantial is there an updated number i haven't done the math to update it in a long time remember do you remember gross is uh eight digit so in the 70 plus million range gross 70 like 74 75 in like a one-year period what's the most that you've made i know it was really high during the covid years especially it was running at over like two million a month just a hair shy of 30 and 22 wow how much does uncle sam gay Diageline. Too much. It's always too much. Most in one day. I don't think I've ever calculated that before. You've been six figures. I think so. I don't know if there's a higher one, but there's a quarter million dollar day. You also, I'm trying to remember, it wasn't like Belle Delphine should did this bathwater thing. Didn't you do something similar?
Starting point is 02:03:32 Yeah, my hot tub water when the hot tub meadow was really strong on Twitch. Yeah. And the beer. Oh yeah. You had the beer? What's that? There's a company that contacted me from Poland. I think it's Yoni. is the company and they make beer that matches the profile of women's yeast. They'll like you send in a sample and they'll replicate the
Starting point is 02:03:53 agriculture amount. They made beer out of your fina yeast. They're like we're going to grow it. Oh man $75 million? Yeah, total. Two million a month? We can make beer out of our armpits.
Starting point is 02:04:10 Two million a month. So So the question remains, how, and she makes a quarter, I think the one day best was a two, quarter of a million. What, what, how? Yeah, well, by taking your clothes off. But who's, what, what, it's just, it's beyond me. I cannot grasp this, these numbers. I cannot grasp.
Starting point is 02:04:39 I cannot grasp. I mean, what do guys give in here? Here's 10. grand, babe. And even a 10 grand of pop, how do you get to 250,000? Okay, have you forgotten Bobby Eden? The official...
Starting point is 02:04:51 Bobby Eden was a fan of the show. Whatever happened to her, by the way? Well, she got out of the business because, you know, to a certain point, but she got out of the business too early. I think she got out before OnlyFans was around. This is back in 2000. She would have done well on OnlyFans.
Starting point is 02:05:05 Oh, just back in 2009, 2010. I think we even interviewed her on the show once. No. Yes, we did an interview. I know we did. I played a couple clips from it, I guarantee you. She was the official webcam. This is when I was in Los Angeles,
Starting point is 02:05:21 the official webcam girl of the show. And she said that men are so lonely. And now we're talking 15 years ago. They're so lonely that they would give her the password to their bank account and say, just take whatever you want, whenever you want to. Don't you remember that? I vaguely remember that, but that's, it's beyond my grasp.
Starting point is 02:05:46 I cannot see getting a quarter of a million dollars, considering what we get in a year, getting a quarter of a million dollars in one day to strip. Hey, John, do you know how many people get pig butchered still to this very day to the tune of billions of dollars? Yeah, but it's that that's a, that's, yeah, but that's the same. scale. That's at scale. She's not at scale. I think she's at scale. She's obviously at scale. She's got a total, so a running total of 72 million. But you know what? I can go to sleep at night knowing that I'm an honest podcaster and I keep my pants.
Starting point is 02:06:27 You know what? She can go to sleep at night too, believe me. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you, the man who put the C's in the TikTok. Say hello to your friend on the other end. He would be the only the one and only Mr. John C. Me, away. And in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all the ships to see boots on the ground feet in the air, something's in the one of the names of nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Let me count you. Don't move for a second. Here we go. 1838, 1,838. Trolls listening live to this podcast. And we are a podcast because you can get us on a podcast app. Sad news. We were approved for Spotify. Uh-oh. We got approved.
Starting point is 02:07:11 And this morning, I looked at my email. They have taken down about 15 of our episodes for copyright violation of unspecified, unspecified copy. At the end of show mixes. Well, but it's not true because we are under fair use. They don't see it that way. No, I know. But parody is permitted.
Starting point is 02:07:36 And everything we use is for news and education. and parody is permitted. Yeah, I know. So I'm not going to fight it, by the way. I have no... You can't fight it. Yeah, you can click a link. Then you get nowhere.
Starting point is 02:07:51 You can click a link and you can fill out a form that goes into Dev Null and it goes nowhere. Exactly. So all the more reason for podcasters to not build up your audience on places like Spotify and sadly also Apple, because that's why we started podcast index.org,
Starting point is 02:08:08 because Apple was deplatible, platforming people during COVID. And we built an entire ecosystem of independent apps and services, almost 90 at this point, including the modern podcast apps. You want to get one of those because there will be no deplatforming. That's just not going to happen. So go to podcast apps.com. And with these apps, when we go live, you get a bat signal.
Starting point is 02:08:30 You can listen to the live show right there in your podcast app. And within 90 seconds of us publishing the show, you get an alert that it's up and running. You can listen to it right away. waiting 15 minutes to two hours for the legacy apps. We also don't have any commercials. We just bring you pure, beautiful value straight through. And all we ask is that from time to time you send us some value in return. That's all that it is.
Starting point is 02:08:56 So it's so interesting to see people in the troll room. We say, well, you know, the way you guys talk, you wonder why donations are tough. I got the one the other day, a nasty note saying, it's because you guys, your donations are down because you're a Trump apologist. Now, let's just think about it. I'm thinking, what? Let's just think about it logically for a second. If we really based our work and our honesty and our honor,
Starting point is 02:09:28 our sacred honor and our fortunes, if we base that on what we said, then we would be super dishonest. Do you have to conclude that if we hurt our own income by telling you what we actually think, don't you think that that's probably something you might want to pay attention to? Unlike everybody else? Am I seeing this wrong, John? I don't know what you said.
Starting point is 02:09:57 That if we, if we, people are saying, you're Trump. No, we're giving your honest opinion. and it actually hurts our income. Oh, I see what you're saying. Then shouldn't you think, well, why are these guys doing it? Are they insane? We're not rich.
Starting point is 02:10:15 I can tell you that. I'm sitting here at 10. These guys insane. 10, 20 in the evening on a Sunday night in a hotel room in Amsterdam. I'm sitting here yelling, my wife is over there looking at what is he talking about? You know, and I'm doing the show. Is that because I'm loaded?
Starting point is 02:10:33 Or is that because, I think logically. Yeah, if you were loaded, I'd be like cyanora, Devorak. I'm going to hang out with Bernetti. You'd be flying around. Yeah, be with Burnetti on the ranch. Literally.
Starting point is 02:10:49 Yeah, driving the fire engine. Kidding me? Absolutely. So no, instead. We try to bring you value. All we ask is that you send some value back from time to time. It's very simple. Value for value is time, talent, or treasure. You can do that in many ways.
Starting point is 02:11:05 We love the treasure. It does keep the fires burning, that's for sure. But we like time and town. Give us a boots on the ground like we got. Help us with some clips like the clip collector, Steve Jones. Big value for him. I think he's probably helped you out as well with some clips recently. This really, particularly the Sunday morning stuff.
Starting point is 02:11:23 I mean, he's sitting there. That's valuable. We really appreciate that. People do all kinds of things, including bringing us artwork, creative artwork, creative prompting. I should say, which is what most of it is. And we use that for album art, which always is meant to grab someone's attention.
Starting point is 02:11:42 It works quite well on social media. That's pretty much all I do on X is post the show or repost the show, and then Darren will post the show, and I'll repost Darren's post of the show. And we were quite pleased with Francisco Scaramanga, who I think himself was pleased that he was chosen, and it was not a naked lady. This was something new, a complete new model.
Starting point is 02:12:04 we don't know what is using. This, yeah, it's totally new. This black and white piece of art had everything Holland in it. It had the Dutch, the wooden shoe. It had mice. I'm not sure what the kind of like Mickey Mouse. The hantavirus.
Starting point is 02:12:20 The hantavirus is running up and down the leg. You had the hotel with no agenda and the logos on fire. There's not a lot of stuff in here. Yeah, and there's an error which I didn't mention. but there is an anomaly. There's an hallucination. Uh-huh. The first mouse at the bottom of the foot, not on the shoes.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Oh. There is a mysterious six-fingered hand that is there on the shoe. Oh, yes. Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. That's not attached to a mouse. Well, the mouse could be trying to climb up and he just happens to have six fingers.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Yeah. And there's also a mix of four and three fingers on the various mice. Well, we gave it to them. We loved it. Let's take a look and see if there was anything else that we considered. No, it's a great piece. It had a flame.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Your sign that's on fire. Yep. I had that. Yeah. And it wouldn't shoot. The whole thing. He had a color version as well. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 02:13:29 He had a color version. but it was cool because the rat was looking right into the camera. He had an alien licking an ice cream comb. That had its own merits, but it was color. And it was the black and white that grabbed us, this model, this black and white. Yeah, he had two black and white pieces that were both grabbers. Yeah, well, that was Popeye. Yeah, it was too much Popeye.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Yeah, it was too much. Even though it wasn't copyright. I mean, it's a public domain character, but we weren't going to use it. No, we weren't. But anyway, thank you very much, Francisco Scaramanga. We appreciate. Appreciate you doing that for us. And now for the treasure portion, which is where we thank all of our producers who supported us, $50 and above.
Starting point is 02:14:09 And we have special spots in our heart and on the credits for people who support us with $1,000 or more. They become an instantite. And in this case, we have a special, we had only 50. I'm not sure how many are left. The Red Knight Order of the Heart. then we have anyone who comes in with $200 between $300 and $300. Now, with that we will definitely read your note and we give you the title, a credit of associate executive producer that's in the book.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Sorry? I want to mention something. Some record, got a request since I'm in recuperation from my episode. I, somebody said, are you picking up the mail at the post office box for the, which has the checks that go to the post office box? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:59 And he said, you should tell people that the mail is being routinely picked up as usual. Because you're, you know, they, I don't know, so I just, I just should mention it. And I just did. Well, was this, what was the problem? Well, he felt that because I was staying, you know, with my daughter and son-in-law at their house, that I wasn't picking, we weren't picking up the mail, which is not that far from the mail. It's in the same vicinity, so it's not like a big deal. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:15:34 Sounds good. You're picking it up as far as I know. Yeah, no, we got to, like the $1,000 they came in today came from the mail. Yes, and that is exactly where we start with Sir Kevin Dills from Huntersville, North Carolina. And he wants, right off the bat, he tells us that he wants some original Manning bingo, boom, shakalaka, Little Girl Boom Shackalaka, which I think that's Nick's kid. And then the remix, I hope I got them all here for you. And he comes in with $2,378.2.
Starting point is 02:16:13 What is this number about? What is the numerology of this fabulous donation? He says, in the morning, this is my annual birthday donation. I'll be turning 40 on May 12th. Please add me to the birthday list. You are on it. for such a milestone birthday today, I thought I'd get myself a nice gift. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 02:16:30 This donation brings me to the level of Archduke. My accounting is attached. In addition to the title, upgrade, I'd like to extend my protector to include South Carolina. Please upgrade my title to Archduke of the Carolinas. Adam, please play the Bob Dylan version of the title chain song. You got it. Also, since it's Mother's Day, happy Mother's Day to Mom. I love you.
Starting point is 02:16:51 She doesn't listen to the show. Thank you for your courage. Sir Kevin Dill's Duke of North Carolina, soon to be Archduke of the Carolinas. And let me see if I can do this for you. Dingo. Boom chagalagalagalaka. Boom booshalacca.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Boom chagalacca. Dingo, boom shakalaka. I did it the wrong way around. But there you go. Yes, you're boom chakalacas. You've got karma. Archduke, that's a big deal. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Matthew Payne and Tomah, Wisconsin. and he came with $1,000, and that was a check. Nice. Good afternoon, Podfather and John. I write, let me move this over. Hold on a second. I write to you. I write to you upon,
Starting point is 02:17:39 I write to you upon finally being able to fulfill a quest long in the making, like getting my extra class. Oh, that's right. He got an extra, extra, nice. Extra class, extra. class ham radio. He gets those extra bands. We're not allowed to. That's the creme de la creme de la creme of the hams.
Starting point is 02:18:00 And writing my final article for publication, I look forward to being able to cross the threshold and take my turn at the podium with the esteemed soon-to-be colleagues of podcast eminence. I have been both a producer and a long-time listener, circa episode 750. I would like to thank my friend Kevin Noitzman K-N-9-N-T-Z for hitting me in the mouth in those years ago, all those years ago, at least I think that's his call sign. The poor guy switches so often I just started memorizing his FRN. I was scared earlier this year when John's heart, toughened after so many years of cynicism and busculism, decided to social distance itself from the rest of them.
Starting point is 02:18:45 But I was happy to see he pulled through and can steadfastly agree with as many critiques of our nation's health care system. His medical event produced some of the most riveting boots on the ground commentary.
Starting point is 02:18:58 And it was truly value for value at his finest. I also really enjoyed the pods. Oh, hurt me. Hurt me. You know who says that to an extreme? Brunetti. No, Calicanis.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Brinetti never says. Alicanis does it to piss me off. I know he does. He listens to every single show. He is a very valuable producer. But he does that just to make me mad. Well, he says it, and it says it and says it and says, I would just listen to one of the...
Starting point is 02:19:30 I know. He's trying to capture a podcast. The podcast is, you know, they're a podcast. If you're a nerd, you know, a serious nerd, their podcast is quite good. But I don't think it's a general interest podcast. No, it's not. It's a AI investment podcast.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Yes, an AI podcast. Yeah, sometimes it's a true. I'm going to make money from AI. Anyway, he says, I also enjoy the pods hosted by Mimi. And I might humbly suggest she hosts every fourth episode. Yeah. Okay. Giving John some much needed rest and a chance to work on his vinegar book.
Starting point is 02:20:09 By the way, we do have a, the vinegar book has now become a chapter in the Devoric family cookbook coming out later this year. Cop out. Cop out. It's a cop out. I can spin it off. The sequel to his vinegar book, many majestic mothers, and his seldom discussed plans for direct-to-paperback, creed ecure, a lifetime of lozenges, soon available on audible. No jingles, no karma. 73 is from the soon-to-be Sir Matnick. Good, good note, Matthew. Very good notes. It is cute. Randy and Crystal, $1,000 coming right in from
Starting point is 02:20:48 Wine Country, Napa, California. Please accept this donation as a token of our gratitude for keeping us informed of important things. We love your breakdown of news events, and John, we are happy you're recovering from your cardiac event. Sincerely, Randy and Crystal.
Starting point is 02:21:04 Sir, horse meds in Gross Point Shores, Michigan, $500. He's got no note, no nothing, so we give them a double-up karma. Yes, we do. You can come in with a note later. You've got...
Starting point is 02:21:16 Double up. Karma. Susan, a Taubenkibel. Taubenkibel. In Rockville, Maryland. Oh, this is interesting. 444.44. I don't think we've seen that many times.
Starting point is 02:21:34 I don't think we've seen it ever. And Susan says, NJNK, so no karma, but thank you very much, Susan. I don't remember her name. I don't know if she didn't want. I wanted deduishing or anything, but thank you so much. We appreciate it. Douglas Schneider in Austin, Texas, just where you knew where you used to be. Used to be. 333.34. John and Adam, after three row of ducks donations over the previous three Mother's Day shows, this donation amount will bring my mother to Damehood.
Starting point is 02:22:02 Oh, nice. She is a diehard listener, and no one is more deserving of a seat at the roundtable. She would like to be known as Dame Roxanne of the Rousein of the Rouse. right diagonal and humbly request spicy margues, margaritas, must be margaritas. Come on. And Calamari for the proceedings. Happy Mother's Day to the soon-to-be dame and best mom in the universe. Love you, Mom. Your son, Doug. Oh, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:22:33 That was good. David McGinnis from Bernie, Texas, 333.33. Bernie is really closer to me than Austin, for sure. And he says, Adam John, David McKinnis from Bernie Texas, your pointcast discussion took me right back to the fun times of the early internet. Pointcast is actually what inspired me to start PR web. Wow. Is this the guy who started PR web? Is that right?
Starting point is 02:22:59 Well, that's what he says. And build it into a leading press release wire service. I ran the whole thing on voluntary financial donations, start to finish all the way through to my exit nine years later. That's when he became a millionaire. Yeah. Because he sold that thing. He did well. Congratulations.
Starting point is 02:23:16 My news service picks up where PR Web left off with a bunch of upgrades. Listen to this. Listeners, grab my book for free. Oh, he's doing the whole thing, man. Whether you're selling coffee, candy or pain relief cream made of honey, news marketing will help you get found online. Go to newsmarketingbook.com slash ITM. That's newsmarketingbook.com slash ITM.
Starting point is 02:23:40 There's no discount because it costs now. thing. By the way, I was hitting the mouth a while back by Sir Gene in Austin. A deduishing is probably in order since this is my first donation. You've been deduced. No jingles, no karma, just blessings for all the mothers in no agenda land.
Starting point is 02:23:57 What a great story. We should have him do some of our PR. Yeah, for free. Yes, definitely. For free. Free! It's volunteer work. Yes, it's for free. It's volunteer work.
Starting point is 02:24:11 It's beautiful. Dennis, Katie or Caddy. Cato. Cato. Cato. Cato. Cato. Oh, so it is Cato. That makes it easier. In Tampa, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3. ITM, Adam and John, we've had record-breaking sales of our manukes.
Starting point is 02:24:32 Oh, is our manuka gold guy. Yes, the manuka gold people are out of control. And Manuco, pain relief gel. We've been blown away, not just by the, you know, we deliver. We deliver without prepayment. We deliver. Because we like the product. If we like the product, we deliver.
Starting point is 02:24:49 That's right. I used to say, when I used to do the inside track column in PC magazine, I used to plug stuff, you know, just plug stuff without, you know, any compensation, obviously, except for the column payment. And I tracked it that every plug was worth about a quarter of a mill. Wow. Wow. that's only fans money baby and this is like i think we we're getting into that league yeah
Starting point is 02:25:21 anyway he says i've always gotten but also by the support we've gotten via email and social media from listeners who truly believe in american run family owned businesses yes nice as a way to generally say thank you for all the enthusiasm wholesale retail orders and networking but with like-minded no agenda listeners we're giving away away free $25 small jars of pure manuka honey with every order for the next week. Our pure manuka honey helps with overall inflammation immune system support, mental focus, and long-term brain health. And we're excited to give everyone a chance to try it.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Visit manukagold.com. And every single order from now until next Sunday will automatically receive a free gift in every box. Thank you. It's been truly overwhelming in the best. best way possible, Dennis Catole in Tampa. Oh, thank you, Dennis, Manuka Gold people. Yeah, there was some newsletter that a lot of people receive.
Starting point is 02:26:19 I forgot what it was. And they mentioned the interesting marketing opportunities on the No Agenda Show. Really? Marketing opportunities. Well, they talk specifically about some dude, you know, donates and mentions his coffee in a fun way. And some people have got honey. and it wasn't like go market on the no agenda show
Starting point is 02:26:44 which by the way we would reject if you hit us with straight copy and like here's 200 bucks Oh we've done it. You remember that one time we got a bunch of ad copy that was just terrible and you just didn't read it We've even helped Linda Lupatkin adjust her copy
Starting point is 02:27:02 You know Yes we have had We're full service baby On occasion we do write copy ourselves Yeah Arnes Kelmans, another name I've not heard before. Arnes Kelman's Tallinn. Oh, is that E.E?
Starting point is 02:27:19 Is that Estonia? E.E. Yeah, it's Estonia, I believe. 333.33. Thank you very much. Didn't ask for anything. Just says Arnes Kilman. It says Arnes Kelmans.
Starting point is 02:27:31 That's all it says. Well, I'm going to do a double up karma just in case. Yeah, might as well. You've got. Double up. Karma. Estonia is one of the most, apparently is one of the most wired, uh,
Starting point is 02:27:44 high end wired countries in the world. Yeah, that's what you say. That's what they say. Well, yeah, sure. They want people to go. Well, they say the same thing about Korea. Yeah, exactly. And I've been there a number of times and...
Starting point is 02:27:59 Disappointed, I know. Terrence Lynch in Savannah, Georgia, 333. Longtime listener. I wish I could donate what you guys are worth. I've lost my accounting info, but I am confident that this donation puts me over the top. For knighthood, I would like to be known as Sir Terror of the Responds. R-E-S-P-A-W-N-S. Please add Manhattens and pretzel crisps to the roundtable.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Please doing what you're doing. Keep doing what you're doing. Please keep doing what you're doing. Crisps. That's very British pretzel crisps. Think? Yep.
Starting point is 02:28:42 Todd Usnick. Usnick. Usnick. I'll say Usnick. Houston, Texas. 31585. Longtime listener. First time contributor, please.
Starting point is 02:28:51 You've been deduced. As I begin my quest for knighthood. Thank you very much. Daniel Lipinski in Cold Spring, Minnesota, nuts. 2.10.60 becomes a first executive producer
Starting point is 02:29:07 for the show, associate executive producer for the show. And there's a Mother's Day switcheroo for my smoking hot wife, Amy Lynn, not a stripper. Raising Amy Lynn, it's a good name for a stripper. Less we say something about it. Yes, not a stripper, Amy Lynn, also not a
Starting point is 02:29:23 porn star, Amy Lynn, and not a Channel J girl, Amy Lynn. Got it. Raising a teenage girl is hard. Yes. This house would fall apart. This is funny. Well, he's got a typo here. It's just corrected for him. We've already given enough. This house would fall apart if it wasn't for you. Yes.
Starting point is 02:29:42 There you go. Thank you for all you do for us. Jobs, karma, please. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Mr. Karma. Sir Robert comes in from Franklin, North Carolina, $210 and $66 as well. Gents, I'm overdue for a donation even as a night, so I might need a minor deduition. You've been deduced. If there's such a thing as comfort karma, I would like some for my 94-year-old mother in hospice with dementia. Well, of course we have that.
Starting point is 02:30:19 In fact, that includes some goat. Thank you, Sir Robert, of the Smoky Mountain Brass. You've got karma. And bingo, here's Eli the coffee guy in Bensonville, Illinois. 20510. Happy Mother's Day to my mom. Tina and to my amazing better half gen. By the other are one and a half human resources,
Starting point is 02:30:45 she got bun in the oven and number two is on the way in a few months. Wait a few months. Wait a minute. A few months. A few months, yes, okay. A few months. This one says, making a human isn't easy. No.
Starting point is 02:31:07 You have to do it a lot. So can I get some baby making karma for Jen? Looks like I'll be back on the sleep deprivation project soon. Good thing coffee helps. If you forget to get mom a gift, visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com. Use code ITM for 20% off your order and send some coffee today. Stay caffeinated says Eli, the coffee guy. And I should mention that Mimi said,
Starting point is 02:31:37 make sure that people should go to Too ManyAgs.com and for your mom, get a copy of the book Too Many Eggs. There it is, everybody. You've got. Yes. Karma. And we've got Stefan Trokles in Seuss in Deutschland with $200, no note. So that means a double up karma for him. You've got.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Double up. Karma. And now we got Linda Lou in Castle Rock, Colorado for $200. And she wants jobs karma. For your resume, your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers Inc.com. Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership. Results and impact.
Starting point is 02:32:30 That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes, $200. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yes. And I also want to say happy Mother's Day to Tina the Keeper, who was a great mom for her two daughters and a great bonus mom for my daughter. And happy Mother's Day in advance to my daughter, who will be a mom mid-July. Well, I want to say Happy Mother's Day to Mimi. There you go. I say Happy Mother's Day to Mimi, too.
Starting point is 02:33:03 And now we continue with the rest of our supporters, donors and value givers, $50 and above. Christopher Ebert from Swartonburg, South Carolina, 10535. Same amount from Bernice Ann Breyer in Roseville, California. Dame Rita, Sparks Nevada, she's always there, $10.10. ITM, happy Mother's Day, to all the moms out there. Dennis Volmer, St. George, Utah, $100. He says, he's a Gen Xer and has a PhD in computer science,
Starting point is 02:33:32 and he appreciates the pod. $100 from Sir Stuart, the angry accountant. He says, this is my eighth man annual Mother's Day donation, honor of my late mother, Jill Walton, who died last year, a truly Christian woman who gave me so much without asking for anything in return and who from all court the correspondence we have gone through helped so many people over the years. Also, much love to my wife, Michelle, 26 years of marriage.
Starting point is 02:33:57 We have never had a real fight during this time. And she continues to support my two grown-up children, Lucy and Alice. Alex each and every day. Many thanks, looking forward to the show. John, Jan de Broca, Jan de Broca, Jan de Broca, Sharpsburg, Georgia, $100. Hope this helps with John's recovery. Oh, yeah, it does wonders for him.
Starting point is 02:34:17 Anonymous, who wants jobs, karma for Glenn, will do that at the end with $100. Amy Stubfield, 100 from Hicks and Tennessee. Sir, Kevin McLaughlin. Sorry, Stubblefield? Stubble, what? Stubble field. You said Stubbfield.
Starting point is 02:34:32 Oh, stubble field. Then say stubble field, not stubble. Then do it right. Stubble field. Stubble field. Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina. He's not just Sir Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs, always comes in with a boob donation, $80.8.
Starting point is 02:34:50 Every single episode. And he says, God bless America and boobs to all the mothers around the world. Happy Mother's Day. Juraj Kodjak, Prague. wants an F. Cancer. Well, we always break for an F. Cancer. Sir Dancing Mike, Maryville, Tennessee. Birthday donation for Sir, Dancing Mike, his donation for his 58th birthday. That'll be today.
Starting point is 02:35:17 Michael Raguse in Tustin, California. Thank you, gents. That's 55-55. Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado, also showing up on the list a lot these days. 5272. Brian Gately, Bayville, New Jersey, 5272. Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley, Missoula, Montana, happy Mother's Day to Dame Mama Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley.
Starting point is 02:35:38 Teddy and Jasper say you are Mama of the Year. Thank you for everything, Sir, Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley. Bad idea supply comes in with $50 and $50. Here are the 50s. Douglas Moogne Cochran, Pennsylvania, René Kniege in Utrecht in the Netherlands, Roderick Brown. Sorry, Roderick Brown. I slipped in their Dutch there.
Starting point is 02:35:58 From Mermaid Prince Edward Island in Canada, Stephen Shoemaker, Zinia, Ohio, Bastion Laszander, which sounds like a Dutch guy, but he lives in, well, he does, he lives in Hengelo, Ophid Issel. In the Netherlands, he says, glad you're back. I wish you were speedy recovery. And finally, Tim Del Vecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania, $50, rounding out all of the $50 and above for episode, what are we, 1867. Let me thank the executive and associate executive producers one more time. Our formula is this. Shut up. Shut up.
Starting point is 02:36:32 And everyone else. And everyone else, thank you very much, and above up to $200. You can go back for the value by the value you receive by going to going to no agenda donations. Please consider supporting the show. Anytime you feel you've gotten value out of the program, the podcast, the pod, go to noagendaddonations. com. Any amount, anything is valid. There's no other tricks or hoops or anything else you need to do.
Starting point is 02:37:15 Just support the show. You could even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. All up to you. Noagenda donations.com. And we say happy birthday to Sir Dancing Mike, who turns 50. today Sir Kevin Dills turns 40 on the 12th and happy 52nd birthday to Sir, to Steve Jones. He is the clip collector. We appreciate the value you give so much.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Yes, your birthday, yeah. Come gather around doucheback, producer and slave. As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave us some of them. them nights, some of them days, for a change. That's right. We have a title change, although he is about to become an order of the heart as well. Sir Kevin Dills, Duke of North Carolina, now become Sir Kevin Dill's Archduke of the
Starting point is 02:38:21 Carolines. How many Archdukees do we have? It's a very small group, I believe. I can't tell you. Well, that's great. I'm pretty sure it's... It's probably about ten. Man, Max. Can't be much more than that. Thank you very much, Sir Kevin Dills. We appreciate you more than you can even know.
Starting point is 02:38:40 And welcome to your new title, top of the list by friend Archduke of the Carolinas. The whole pure of purpose right from the start in the morning. The people who become Red Knight's Order of the Heart, they will receive not only their night ring, but also the beautiful lapel pin in very limited quantity. Sir Kevin Dills, Matthew Payne, Sir Matthew Payne, Sir Matnick and Randy and Crystal a pin for each of you. And welcome to the Order of the Heart,
Starting point is 02:39:19 the Red Knight and Dame status. Behold. Dame and two knights to bring to the round table. Before we do that, Jobs Karma for Liz and Australia. And the Jobs Karma, I promise earlier. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job. All right.
Starting point is 02:39:51 We got three people here, John, so bring out the sword. Your sounding, by the way, can I, before you, just keep it in the sheath. You're sounding so. good. It's as if nothing happened. I don't know how you feel, do you feel good? Do you feel better? You feel, I mean, how do you feel?
Starting point is 02:40:08 I feel fine. Okay. I feel fine. Thank you for that blade. Pop up on the podium, please. Roxanne, Matthew Payne, and Terrence Lynch. All three of you have supported the No Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more. That means you get
Starting point is 02:40:25 the coveted status of Noagenda Night or No agenda dame. Right here at the round table, I'm proud to pronounce the, as Dame Roxanne of the right diagonal, Sir Matnick, and Sir Terror of the Respond. For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnays, spicy margs, and calamari, Manhattan and pretzel crisps, along with that bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, gingerbread and gerbils, breast milk, and pablum, Rubeness, women, and rosé, and as always at the roundtable, we have mutton and mead. Yeah, mutton and mead.
Starting point is 02:40:59 Hey, what you do is you go to Noagenda rings.com. That is where you will see these handsome dame and night rings. And all you have to do is give us your size. There's a ring sizing guide on the website and we'll send that off to you along with a certificate of authenticity. And yes, as always, a couple of sticks of wax. So you can really use those signet rings to seal your important correspondence.
Starting point is 02:41:23 Noagenda rings.com. No agenda meetups are everywhere around the world. In fact, there was one in light in the Netherlands. Just Saturday night, I could not go because we were hanging out with my daughter, but I know they'll be sending me a meter-up report soon, at least I hope so. We got a couple of meeter reports. The first one is for Sir Brian with an eye who went to the Buda meetup in Texas. You've arrived.
Starting point is 02:41:55 The destination is on the left. 404 Main Street, Buda, Texas. No agenda meetup Let me see Okay It looks like I have you guys For 5 o'clock And y'all are going to be right out there on the patio
Starting point is 02:42:08 All right, I don't know where everybody's at But I'm just going to go talk to women One minute later Two minutes later This is a scam Hey this is Sir Brian with an eye At Astra in Buda, Texas I'm glad everybody finally showed up
Starting point is 02:42:31 This is Satha of the Butta No Agenda meetup. It's Chris in the morning. Hi, I'm Janet Gillis here in Buda, Texas, under the biggest oak tree I've ever seen. Hey, this is Viscount Scott, coming up from my gopher hole. Keeper Christine here, trying to keep him in line.
Starting point is 02:42:48 Hi, my name is Alora. I work at Astra and Beuda, and honestly, everyone needs to show up on the time that's scheduled because I was left with Sir Brian for a whole hour. There's a lot of trains here. Listen to that horn. Sir Brian with an eye getting very creative.
Starting point is 02:43:11 Thank you very much. Good that people did eventually show up. Also, there was a meetup in Sonoma, Huino country. This happened just a few days ago. In the morning, this is Sir Recalcant, crazy teeth the second. And I've noticed the show is better when a Democrat is in the White House, and Ron Paul is still right. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:43:32 Captain Luke, Baron of Sonoma County, in the bathroom, not doing cocaine. This is Hernan and I'm about to take a shit. Oh, please. Sir Zulbad here and apparently we all had to go to the bathroom at the same time so here we are doing the mid-up report from in the bathroom. It's Linda at the Shire.
Starting point is 02:43:51 Thank you John and Adam for keeping on. John, you've been such a trooper and Santa Rosa loves no agenda. This is a dude main Ben. We're right here, Santa Rosa. It's bougie as hell. And, you know, we're all having a great time and people are beautiful and we love this place. We're doing a new podcast report. This is our server.
Starting point is 02:44:17 Hey, hi, I'm Chris. And I'm being told to talk. So here we are. 4G chess. Yes, you too can stand in the bathroom with total strangers and meet children from other lands at a no agenda meetup. And I suggest you do. go to no agenda meetups.com. Find out where a meetup will be near you. In fact, if you are in Unionville, Ontario, on Wednesday the 13th, the Duke of the South up north in Toronto meetup takes place. Now, whenever Sir Patrick Cobel shows up somewhere, it's going to be a hoot-nanny. I suggest you go visit him. Starts at 6 o'clock at Casa Victoria, Fine dining and banquet. That sounds like Patrick Cobel all the way, fine dining and banquet. That's in Unionville, on 10.combe. Duke of the South organizing it.
Starting point is 02:45:08 So please go visit Sir Patrick Cobel on Wednesday. Let's see. We have our next show day. Is that the 14th? Yeah, I guess it is. The Northern Wake May meetup, 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. And upcoming, on the 16th, we have three. We've got Coughleyville, Texas.
Starting point is 02:45:31 We've got, I'm sorry, Collieville, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Los Angeles, Caliño's California, the 17th, Indianapolis, Indiana. It's going to be a big one. It always is. 21st, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 23rd, Wilmington, Delaware, Los Angeles, California, Hickson, Tennessee, Franklin, Tennessee, dueling Tennessee meetups all on the 23rd. Keyport, New Jersey on the 24th, Vancouver, British Columbia on the 24th as well. The 25th, Squim Washington, that's where you want to go. Meet Mimi.
Starting point is 02:45:58 Mimi will be there. The Too Many Eggs.com, Book Lady. And, and, by the way, sometimes co-host, maybe every fourth show I hear. And on the 30th, we have Anchorage, Alaska. I'm looking forward to these meterup reports. Please consider sending in a meter report. It doesn't matter if it's done on your iPhone. I'll edit it all together for you if you can't do it yourself.
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Starting point is 02:47:05 We've got three dynamite end-of-show mixes. We also have John's tip of the day. And before we do anything, we have our ISOs that we always like to listen to. We don't even remember why, but we like to do it. And we'll stick that at the end of the show. And I'm going to start with my four. This first one, I think, was sent in by a producer. Let me check.
Starting point is 02:47:25 Yeah, okay. Then we have this one. It was fun. It was a fun show. Not too bad. This one? It was pretty great. No.
Starting point is 02:47:36 And there's this one. Oh, wow. I always go to the well. I can't help myself. All right, what you got? Let's start with the top. Dynamite. Wow.
Starting point is 02:47:47 Oops. Dina, oh, might. How do these guys do it week after week? You're already winning. Yes. Okay. Next. Find better.
Starting point is 02:47:58 Wow. Find a better podcast than this one. Ooh. Ooh. You just blew yourself out of the water. And then money. Hey, you got more than your money's worth. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:48:12 I don't know. Because if you play that... Hey, you got more than your money's worth. You know, it's like, people didn't send money to be like, oh, I got, I don't have to do anything. It doesn't feel, I think this. Wow. Find a better podcast than this one. I like that.
Starting point is 02:48:25 What do you think? What do you like? What do you like the best? Yeah, well, I think the first insane, that one's good. That one's run it. We'll take that one. Hey, but before we do any of that, we have to listen to John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me
Starting point is 02:48:41 Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Okay And what did happen to my thing? What happened to your thing? There it is. Okay, so no, I have an image that I have to look at. Oh.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Okay, the tip of the day, this is Mother's Day, so I decided to go one more day with a wine tip from Costco. Oh, great. So now this is interesting Because this is a This is I've talked about this grape This Pinogrigio So I looked into it a little bit
Starting point is 02:49:17 Pinocrigio I say 10 years ago They were making it a lot in the United States It's junk Junk wine It was terrible But something changed Junk wine So something changed
Starting point is 02:49:31 And so they're starting to make it It's really good And I mean I first turned on by one of our producers who makes a who has a product from Zavala vineyards in the in the Alhambra Valley
Starting point is 02:49:45 which is outside of Martinez and he dropped off some bottles and I bought a half a case or a case from him because it's just a really tasty pinocritio but the ones that I'm the wrong way but the print
Starting point is 02:49:59 yeah I know it's this funny wrong way so he's dropped of a lot of wine so But the tip of the day here is some stuff from Costco, including a Friuli. It's got the labels of Kirkland Signature. This is ridiculous, by the way.
Starting point is 02:50:20 Kirkland signature, Friuli, Grave, Pino Grigio, product of Italy. The Italians are making a killer Pinot Grigio. It's Grigio. It's Italian for Gray. uh 2024 this wine as sold that some cost goes for 499 a bottle boy yo yoing yeah 499 a bottle now now i'm let me ask you for a recommendation here so if i'm going to serve this 499 a bottle and it has the kirkland label on it which i mean people who listen to the show
Starting point is 02:51:05 they know how valuable these tips are. Decan't it into a caraph. There it is. Decant it into a caraf. Ditch the hooch-looking bottle and you'll be dynamite. Wait, this tip's not over. Oh. Now at Costco for 12 bucks,
Starting point is 02:51:24 there is another Pino Grigio, which is not a Kirkland one. It might be more to your liking. It's a, it's called Italian, a C-E-S-C-O. and Italo Italo Cascon Pino Grigio 2024, another 2024 which I guess was a great year for Pino
Starting point is 02:51:43 Grigio. And it's 12 bucks and it's in a fancier bottle. It is not a Costco bottle and it's got actually at the top of the bottle there's a there's glued to kind of tied to the bottle is a piece of the grape vine.
Starting point is 02:51:58 Oh. Kind of fancy. Yeah. And this is one that is absolutely a So here's what you do. Can you take the grape vine off of the bottle that's tied to the bottle? Yeah, you could. You just cut it right off.
Starting point is 02:52:14 Yeah, and then you just say to your guess, I got this. Silb, you want to decant it. I say, this is the actual vine this grape came from. You are going to love. You could do that if you wanted to be full of shit. Yes, that's exactly what I am. When it comes to wine, I'm full of it. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:52:32 I love that. So these are a couple of good ones. wines but but the 499 one is going to be kind of hard to top in terms of price uh comparison well for those of you who are listening at this point in the show you are just so lucky you get the best price you get the best wine and it's only with the one and only tip of the day no agenda fun dot com tip of the day dot net great advice for you and me just the tip with jccd by the way i should mention that up north is five Hold on. You talked all over the...
Starting point is 02:53:08 Oh, I'm just saying $599. You can expect to pay that, too. Yeah. Brunetti will be mad because you stepped on his credit. Oh, I did. I stepped on Brunetti's credit. Yep. You'll have to talk to Alex.
Starting point is 02:53:22 Yeah. I'll get a letter. Yes, you violated copyright. A demand letter. Bowls with buds with Shadrack. This is your first warning. Bowls with Buds with Shadrack. coming up next on the noogenes street he's a bitcoiner so that should be fun to listen to and we have
Starting point is 02:53:42 end of show mixes from uh bonnled crab tree we've got uh danny luce is back and just baker uh all in the mix looking for i think you like it i i enjoyed these couple of toe tapers indeed and not your typical ai slop for some reason i don't know what it is and that does conclude our broadcast day uh next time you hear you hear you hear you know what it is and that does conclude our broadcast day uh next time you me, I will be back in Fredericksburg, Texas. We're leaving on Wednesday. Oh, it's a short trip, short trip. And as always, I am currently coming to you from the hotel with the flaming logo right here.
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