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She's all jacked up about the action ho.
Adam Curry, John C. DeVorey DeVore.
It's Sunday, May 17th, 2026.
This is your award winning Kit My Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1869.
This is no agenda.
Doing the Banga Ranga!
And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texasville country here in FEMA region number six.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Refinery Row where everybody's happy that Bill Cassidy's finally out.
I'm John St. DeVorek.
It's Craigbott and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Hey man, the gloves are coming off.
Gloves are coming off.
Mm-hmm.
I don't care how, you know, if they cut your chest open, the gloves are off.
I cannot believe that for 18 years, one thing has been my segment.
One thing.
You need to come in with a series of four clips.
about Eurovision.
Yeah, after you poached and poached and poached, I got sick of it.
What did I poach?
You know, everything.
Well, we do this every single year.
And we're always very...
And we nailed it again.
We did.
I think we forgot to nail it.
We completely forgot to predict.
It's a good thing.
But okay, I will, yes, because we probably would have corrected, predicted incorrectly.
But I will relent.
I will allow you graciously to roll out whatever you think is important about this year's Eurovision song contest.
Well, it's funny you should ask.
Now, first of all, this is the 70th anniversary.
Big deal.
I mean, 75 would have been better, but yeah, yeah, 70 is a big deal.
75 is better, 100's even better.
But 70, you know, you know, it's...
Since you're doing the segment, first of all,
did we have any transsexuals this year in the contest?
Oh, they were all transsexuals.
Yeah.
So let's say, this is a PBS report, or I'm sorry, NPR report.
So I thought it was kind of entertaining because they actually,
in an offhanded way, predicted the winner,
even though it was the long shot.
in the way it was presented.
But let's listen to it.
And the guys very, they're very enthusiastic.
Let's go with Eurovision 70 years.
That's clip number one.
Okay, Vienna, let the grand final of the Eurovision Song Contest begin.
70 years old, still as glamorous as ever.
The final of the Eurovision Song Contest is in full swing in Vienna.
You heard three of the early entries, Denmark, Germany and Israel.
It's said to be the non-sporting event with the biggest global audience.
So if you're not listening to NewsA, you are probably watching it.
Is this NPR?
Yeah.
With a British guy?
Yeah.
You're doing both at the same time.
Let's speak now to someone who is going to do that.
William Lee Adams, BBC journalist, founder of WiiWee Blogs,
which is the world's most followed independent Eurovision channel on YouTube.
What kind of blog?
Weewee Blogs.
Wee Wee Blogs.
Okay.
He's in Vienna.
Hi, William.
Hey, good evening, James.
Good to have you on the program.
What, nearly two hours since it.
started. What are the highlights
so far? Oh, wait a minute. The room is
this is the BBC
World Service, of course.
Yes, thank you.
I knew it couldn't be
NPR. I just thought it was
so lame they had to be NPR, but
now that I think about it, you're right.
Okay, onward. Whenever you bring in
the guy who writes the Wii Wee-Blog.
Yeah, the Wee-Blog is, I think
even beneath NPR.
Very bouncy and very buoyant.
A lot of that is down to all
Australia, Delta Goodroom.
She is going for gold and wearing gold.
Yes, yes, yes, I'm stopping.
Oh, my God, we're never going to get through this.
Australia.
They're in Europe?
Oh, we go through this every year.
You might as well add Israel and say what.
They're not in this, are they?
Because they're not in Europe.
Yes, but it is the Eurovision.
Yeah, Euro standing for Europe.
No, that just means Eurovision.
Like you can see Europe, you have a vision of Europe.
It doesn't mean that you have to be in Europe.
Oh, then how do the United States do in this competition?
We don't.
Look, we have the voice.
We invented all of these things.
Okay, well, they dropped the United States.
We'll drop ourselves.
How about South America?
How did Brazil do?
Every year, we go through this.
What?
Every year.
They could, everyone can participate if they want.
They just have to join the European Broadcasting Union, which costs money.
Oh, there it is.
See, this thing, it's like the Olympics.
You know, it's like, then your country wins.
And then it's all hosted in your country.
And there's a lot of money involved.
Sponsors, all kinds of stuff everywhere.
7,000 Soroski crystals.
She sort of looks like liquid champagne walking down the stage.
Now, I will say this is the commentary that I expect from Eurovision.
7,000 Swarovsky crystals.
She looks like champagne coming down the steps is wonderful.
Now, her song is called,
eclipse. This is about alignment.
And we can take some notes here
because this is how the podcast award
should run that you are going to organize
that we were going to be the
the...
You're still in play.
You don't use cash pants.
Connection that two people have that's really special
and can lead to sort of romantic
entanglement. Now, she herself
is a cancer survivor. She's raised more than
$120 million for
cancer research. And so this song
is about timing. You know, and she told me
When I sing, I'm singing for all the struggles I've had, all the struggles I've endured and survived.
And it's just beautiful. She rises into the air on an elevator borrowed from Beyonce,
the American pop star, which emerges for her piano.
So she's in the air in gold. There's the sun behind her.
She looks like a gorgeous Renaissance painting with the sun being that halo. It is just stunning.
Well, you've painted the picture on the radio, which is what we...
Yes, that was pure theater of the mind. Thank you, Weewee Blog.
We'd like you to have done, which is wonderful. But tell us about the other favorites.
I mean, she's one of them.
Finland, Greece, although I think you had a kind of Bulgaria
have come in at the last minute for you, have they?
Oh, absolutely.
The contest really is a two-horse race between Australia and Finland.
Ah!
Oh, how wrong he was.
Well, he did mention Bulgaria.
We should have sent Spencer Pratt to the Eurovision.
He would have swept it.
He would have.
All right, now we go to the UG clip.
I put UG because this is a real groaner this clip.
But Bulgaria is lurking on the outside.
Now, the Bulgarian singer Dara,
she used to suffer from a compulsion where she couldn't leave her house
unless her makeup was perfect.
And I don't say this in a joking way, it was clinical.
If her eyebrows weren't painted on perfectly,
she would experience so much anxiety she would just stay home.
Give this guy the hook.
There is a traditional ceremony in Bulgaria, Kerkera, I believe,
and they expel evil spirits.
So on stage, she has people with bad makeup, sitting in chairs,
there's plastic on their face,
and they perform a dance to drive out the anxiety,
to drive out the evil.
But she does this within a box that looks like an office.
You're not aware of the audience,
even though there are tens of thousands of people out there.
It's creating a music video universe on a stage.
It is remarkable.
And just to close off the circle about the favorites,
you've got Finland.
My goodness.
If Australia is about emotional connection with the singer and the audience,
Finland is about emotional disconnection because you have a man and a woman on stage.
The woman is 56-year-old violinist Linda Lampinius,
and she's deliberately icy.
She doesn't look at anyone.
She's avoiding Pete.
She says that she is like a flamethrower, Lika Heighton in Finnish,
because she'd warm up and people would be drawn to her.
But then she would just get cold his ice and walk away.
And so their dynamic, his fire, her ice, it creates smoke.
Why are you torturing us with this?
I've never done this.
Can I get some of President Trump's bleach to drink, please?
Well, I think it's about time we got to the nitty-gritty of this piece of shit.
Okay.
And this is it.
The ridiculous over-analysis of stupid acts.
Oh, the woman has anxiety attacks because her makeup isn't correct.
And she's the one who won.
Yeah.
Yes.
Because of bad makeup.
I mean, this whole thing is ludicrous.
And every year we talk about it,
we do normally predict with some accuracy,
I might say, even though we would have missed it this year,
because who would have been?
I know, we were too busy looking at the news.
Well, we were excised from the prediction
by the cosmic forces because it was impossible for us to predict.
That's my thinking.
All right.
And that's in line with the kind of stupidity
that we're listening to now. So let's go on with clip three.
Well, you talked about anxiety earlier. There was a bit of anxiety,
quite a lot of anxiety, I guess, around Israel's participation, five countries boycotting it.
How did their entry perform? How did it all go down?
Indeed. Israel's participation remains a major flashpoint for fans, for performers,
and for delegations from rival broadcasters. In the past two editions of Eurovision,
we heard a lot of booing.
Yeah, I think, what does that even mean?
What I think, if I'm, if I'm not correct, if I'm not mistaken, the Europe, if I'm not, if I'm not corrupted, I'm not correct.
If I'm not correct, then I'll be correct, because that's rule one. I'm always correct.
I believe that these broadcasters are all public broadcasters. I think that's part of the hook.
And that's why you've got, Israel has public broadcasting, Australia has public broadcasting.
Canada, are they in this thing? Wouldn't surprise me. They've all got public.
broadcasting. And I think you have to be a public broadcaster. So this is kind of, this is their Super Bowl
where they all get to, you know, get drunk and hang out and party because it's kind of their party.
I think that's what's behind all this.
But so how's that making competitive?
And jeering in the audience. But this year, we didn't have the same amount of booing, if any.
Certainly in the final, I didn't hear any this.
evening. A lot of that comes down to the subject matter. The song that the Israeli act, Noam Betten,
is singing, is Michelle. Michelle is a woman, and they had a toxic relationship, and you can't
really read that politically. Whereas in the past years, people imbued meaning into the songs. For instance,
in 2024, the original title of Israel's entry was October reign. Many people interpreted that
to be a story about the October 7th attacks. And the following year, their singer, she actually
survived the October 7th attacks. She herself hid under dead bodies. Now, that's not a political
statement. That's what she's endured, but people imbued it with meaning suggesting, oh, Israel
chosen act because they wanted to court sympathy on the international stage. But again,
we need to remember art is born of the times of the zeitgeist. You know, what is personal,
what is political? These subjects are often very gray. Hold on. I have to, I have to
subscribe to the RSS feed of the WiiWee blog now. This is so awesome.
unbelievable.
Yes, it's unbelievable.
You could have done one clip of this guy.
I'm sorry that I'm belaboring it because I hope this is the last time we ever talked about it.
No, no.
I mean, here's, I was going to do one clip and then play snippets of the two songs, the one and two.
That's all I was going to do.
That's what we do with this.
Well, you got usurped.
Indeed.
You got poached.
I don't know if it's a good thing for the show.
I think it's hurting the show.
Indeed.
And probably.
That probably is.
The voting, because for a lot of people, that's always been one of the highlights,
not just the singing, but the voting.
And it's changed this year to give a better balance between the musical juries and the general public.
Yeah, you're right.
There were two big changes.
One change is that the professional juries in each country, they've been increased.
So last year, there were five jurors.
This year, there are seven jurors, and they have to include more people under 30 or 25,
basically making them younger and more diverse.
The other big change is that rather than voting 20 times per person, which was allowed in previous years, you could only vote 10 times.
Now, this is off the back of the revelation following last year's revision that an Israeli government agency was involved in buying ads on YouTube and other social media platforms calling on voters to vote for Israel 20 times.
Now, the reason multiple, voters can vote multiple times is because the loop by the way.
I pulled this stunt at a at a chili cookoff for the People's Choice Awards.
Wait, you bought votes?
Well, we had a couple of chorus girls at the booth and talking everyone into turning all their votes into our jar.
So they would sweet talk these guys and you, how many votes you got?
Yeah, we got 10 votes.
Just give us all 10 votes.
So it would be so nice.
And so we ended up getting a lot of extra votes using that trick.
But it's idiotic.
If you think about it, you should have one vote.
You get the vote for the one you think so best.
You don't have 10 votes.
You give them all the one guy.
I can't even discuss this with you.
The Broadcasting Union wants to spread the love.
It wants people to meet with all cultures, all musical cultures.
I'm letting it play out out of respect for you, 18 years of respect.
That music comes from friends or from foes.
But it seems to have backfired on the last edition where, you know,
you had advertisement saying, no, don't spread the love, give it all to us.
So this year that's been reduced to 10.
We'll have to wait and see if that has any sort of impact on the results.
We're almost at the end, I think 21st group at the moment,
five ladies from Cyprus performing.
Any sort of surprises, any artists that stood out for you that aren't among the favour of.
No, no. I'm all the way now.
They're performing next to last in 24.
The song is called Choke Me, which is very provocative.
And a lot of people were offended.
There was a petition to have it removed.
But the singer has explained through her staging,
she is saying choke me to a phantom.
Oh.
Choke me.
How come Choke me didn't win?
Let's just listen very quickly to the Israeli entry.
Michelle, we'll just listen to a little bit here.
We'll jump around.
I'm doing this so that Spotify will take this episode
off of their podcast features.
Mm-hmm.
Here we go.
Okay, and that's rejected.
And here is the winner.
Bangoranga.
Let's see if we can, if I would have voted for this.
No, I can see it.
Drop.
Yeah.
All right.
Bangaranga.
Here we go.
Bangaranga.
Oh, I see.
A little bit of Bollywoods in there.
Yeah.
I get it.
Kids like that.
It's great.
All right.
15 minutes of the show.
very good very good
very good
okay well that's the end of that
it is
let me let me let's go into some trumpete
ooh yeah we haven't done some proper
trumpet hate recently
that's true we have I since I stopped getting the
TikTok clips well this is
semi mainstream media
Trump hate
and it started
with
Let me see.
The chattering class, as we call it, the chattering class.
Listen to how Megan Kelly introduces her guest.
All right.
We're going to bring in our very first guest, very first guest ever here on the MK show.
That's the podfather of our show, Glenn Greenwald I speak of.
He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and host of System Update on Substack.
Help me understand this.
I mean, it's one thing never to ask me back on the show.
I mean, it's pretty...
Well, you were, you were, you were, I thought you were an ungrateful guest.
What do you mean, ungrateful guest?
So she has Glenn Greenwald on the show.
Who knows the podfather somehow?
Well, he's her podfather.
I used to be her pod.
I'm no, I can be the podfather, but I'm not her podfather.
Okay.
And, uh, and so Megan Kelly captured by her audience, Glenn Greenwald, he's, he's,
He never got uncaptured.
I think he's always been kind of the same.
Self-hating Jew.
They just have to lay into it.
I thought this was career-ending.
Career-ending.
I didn't know this took place, but I'm glad you got this.
Oh, no, she had Tucker on.
She got Glenn Greenwald-Don-Raff on.
It's fantastic.
There was an admission on the Iran War, which jumped out at me, and it might to you, too.
Here it is in SOT 7.
By the way, so that show, here it is in Slot 7.
And then you get a three second pause.
Please appreciate your no agenda show when you hear these things.
You know, this is not pro.
Man, it might to you too.
Here it is in SOT 7.
One.
You're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and UAE and, you know, Kuwait and other countries, Bahrain.
It also helps China.
We're actually, I told them today.
I said, you know, we're helping you.
helping you in another way because
I don't think they want, I don't think China wants
Iran to have a nuclear weapon either.
I said,
this don't call crazy.
You don't need them having a nuclear weapon
either. What did he say?
Well, he's not going to respond to much.
He's a pretty cool guy. He's not going to say, oh,
gee, that's a good point.
I think he might, you know, what's he going to do.
You think he agreed.
That was the impression.
I don't think he wants him to. No, he would like to see
it end.
But he's been good about it, you know.
So there it is.
I mean, lest there was any doubt,
it's the first thing in the answer.
We did it to help Israel.
We're doing it to help Israel.
He named other countries.
He has said the world can't have Iran having a nuclear weapon.
But just to say that is so controversial
that we're doing it to help Israel.
We know.
We know that.
We've said that many times.
And then you get called an anti-Semitic.
But that's not anti-Semitic.
It is a fact.
You heard it from the president of the United States himself.
He thinks it's also helping some of the Gulf Arab states.
fine, that's not controversial.
You can say that. But prior to the president
saying it himself explicitly, you weren't allowed to say
that other piece of it, or you were called an anti-Semite.
She's so uptight about this.
Call me an anti-Semitism. You couldn't say
this. You could call it. You're a podcast.
You can say whatever you want to say.
Why do you care?
I don't know. It's weird.
Here comes Greenwald.
This was a movement that was calling itself
America first. And then you
have Trump saying, oh yeah, this war.
Or it's kind of helping us.
We don't want the avenue to have a new weapon.
But, you know, yeah, we're helping Israel get rid of their big enemy.
I think he editorialized that a little bit.
These people are insane about this stuff.
And so the way they take the president's statement is, oh, it's about Israel.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, just helping Israel get rid of their big enemy.
Of course, Trump mentioned a whole bunch of other countries.
But Glenn Greenwald has an answer for that too.
And also, when we talk about the,
these Persian Gulf states, what we mean are
Persian Gulf dictatorships.
Arab dictatorships that
have
extreme levels of human rights abuses
that we claim to be so offended when they
appear in Iran. You think protesters
fair any better in Dubai
or in Riyadh or in
Doha or... There's
no one protesting in Dubai.
I think they're all pretty happy
with things in Dubai. Riyadh,
are they protesting? Should they
be protesting by missing something?
I don't know. Maybe they should.
In Bahrain or Kuwait? No, they, or then Iran, no, they don't.
And this idea, you know, and also the Strait of Hormuz, Trump himself said at the beginning, out of frustration, look, if you're not willing to go to war with Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz, we don't have to do it.
We don't need the Strait of Hormuz, which is true. We don't get oil from the Strait of Hormuz. China does.
And the Gulf states need the Strait of Hormuz to sell oil.
But Trump is in bed with these Persian Gulf dictators. He loves them.
too, they're extremely rich. They have a kind of shared aesthetic with this very ostentatious, gold-laden
kind of, you know. Trump is now a Middle Eastern dictator, you see. This is where it's come.
But I do have the taste for gold, I have to say.
Yeah, totally. I mean, if you go look at that BBC video of me in 2004, I had the same thing.
But yet, I never felt like a Middle East dictator was my style.
this gold-laden kind of, you know, wealth expression.
He loves them.
His family's in bed with the Persian Gulf state.
In bed.
And he's very close to them.
He listens to them.
In bed.
And obviously to Israel.
And I don't think these are good things for our country.
Why are we prosecuting a war that's harming Americans for the benefits of Israel or
these Persian Gulf dictators?
And on the question of China, yeah, I mean, opening up the Strait of Harmoos is far
more in China's interest than ours.
The problem is that the only reason the straight of war news is that the only reason the
of Hormuz is closed is because the United States joined Israel and attacking Iran.
It was perfectly open the Strait of Hormuz was prior to this war for forever.
Perfectly forever.
It's closed now because it was a response to the attack on Iran.
And I think the rest of the world is like, you cause this problem.
It's your responsibility to fix it.
And I think it's a reasonable view for most countries to have.
So I played these clips, first of all, I thought it was kind of funny.
But second of all, they are now so much like the mainstream media.
they don't really look at anything further than the surface.
I think they're watching MS now and CNN and Fox probably to get their talking points almost.
I mean, this whole trip to China as you, I mean, it was ridiculous.
It made no sense.
Everything was wrong.
It's stupid.
Trump came back with nothing.
Let's go to MS now.
When Donald Trump was running.
Our favorite, Jempsaki.
For president, you may remember this.
He had a question.
He loved.
loved to ask. A particular thought experiment about a tete-a-tete between Vice President Harris
and President Xi. And it went like this.
Kamala Harris is so incompetent. Can you imagine her dealing with President Xi of China?
Can you imagine her dealing with President Xi? Can you imagine with President Xi? Can you imagine
her negotiating with President Xi of China? Can you imagine her standing with President Xi of China?
By the way, nice supercut.
I don't think so.
Can you imagine?
He said that so many times.
I mean, Trump spent that campaign railing about China's influence in the world,
and he repeatedly insisted that he alone was the only candidate tough enough to go toe to toe to
with President Xi of China.
He was the only person who could show Xi whose boss.
Well, Donald Trump just finished his first state visit to China in his second term,
and how did it go?
Did big, bad Donald Trump stand up to the Chinese leader?
I mean, this is exactly the same as Megan and Glenn.
There's no analysis.
They're just doing hot takes, like punchlines.
Yeah, it's a good point.
That's just a hot take.
Yeah, and so let's see.
That's the exact right word for it.
Ambassador McFall, let me start with you.
Ambassador McFall, here we go.
This guy's good.
Outline some of the biggest issues that were at stake during this visit.
We talked about this late last night when it was, the trip was still a bit ongoing.
But as you looked, it's now over.
What did Trump and really?
the United States get out of this trip.
Well, what do you think, John?
What do you think they got out of the street?
They get anything out of this trip?
Anything at all?
Anything?
Anything?
I think they got something out of it.
I think the Boeing,
impossible sales of Boeing jets was a big deal,
especially if it was going to be 200 of them or more.
Yeah.
Well, that was about it, it seems to me.
No.
And they got to meet.
And then Trump got to show off to all these our own business guys.
that he knows this guy,
she, and they can introduce him to me.
Hey, you can meet the guy here.
You meet him and shake his hand,
and we're all good to go.
I think that's a big deal.
There's actually more.
But yeah, there was that.
There was some soybeans.
Always some soybeans.
Oh, there's always soy beans.
But let's hear what Ambassador McFall thinks.
Chen, you just summarized it brilliantly.
That was a fantastic laydown.
And I'm so glad you reminded everybody
about what he said he was going to do
with China. Remember, when he
first ran for president, it was all
about China. China's eating our lunch.
China's taking our jobs. They're
doing all these horrible things
to us. And he used in that phrase
that clip you just showed,
communist China, right?
You never heard him use the word communist
once on this trip.
And I just think this flip
is remarkable, and I
hope his voters noticed
it. I hope Republicans
noticed it, because
Because for decades, the Republican Party was always saying Democrats are weak on China.
We're going to be tough.
And now he is completely flipped.
You could not do a bigger flip.
So again, what did he do?
Well, he was just nice.
He didn't say you're coming.
You're always bitching and moaning that he's not nice and he has no decorum.
And he goes over there and he becomes nice.
And now they're complaining about that.
All they do is complain.
It gets better.
I think an acronym you could use to summarize not just this meeting, but everything leading up to it, is make China great again.
When you look at the impact of the Trump president.
Make China great again.
Trump screwed it up only made China stronger.
The real winner has been China.
And the loser has been America's allies and America itself.
And what's really extraordinary about it, Ali, is President.
Trump was elected beginning in 2016, in large part because he was really one of the first U.S.
leaders who recognized the way that China's entry to the WTO was contributing to the hollowing
out of the U.S. middle class. Wow. The very same people who told him that he was racist and he
was going to kill people by withdrawing from all of these organizations. All they do is counter-programming
all the time.
One of his promises to American Rust Belt workers was he was going to fix it.
But instead, what we see he's doing is bullying reporters, beating up on America's closest friends and allies.
Oh, no.
And frankly, seeming cowed by China.
Again.
No.
Well, let's go to the liberal intellectual elites, an acronym.
we'll go to the liberal intellectual elites
who everybody listens to because their pod
is by far one of the most important
and smart, smart tech pods.
It also, I mean, it's a reminder of the stark contrast
in the first Trump term.
I'm sorry, this isn't the pod,
but it's one of the hosts of the pod.
What are we talking about?
We're talking about the pivot pod.
And how the business community treated.
Carish-wisher.
You see, she gets to be unsubed.
CNN now that she has a show on CNN.
You see that's how it works.
And what we're seeing now.
I mean, so many people were critical of that inauguration seating chart.
But this is kind of evidence of probably a big factor for that.
So they could go on trips like this.
Well, as I said, it's a coin operated presidency.
And they figured out very quickly that you put money in and you get.
Coin operated presidency.
She's going to explain it.
That's cute.
She's going to explain it.
That's a coin.
That's going to catch on.
Yeah, everyone's.
all the kids are talking about it.
And they figured out very quickly that you put money in and you get stuff out.
Like Andreessen Horowitz spending the most money towards the midterms.
They understand it's a very small amount of money to spend $115 million because they get so much more.
They get billions and billions out of it.
And so they've sort of figured out it's a cheap way to get what you want.
And that's what they're doing.
And they will continue to do that because shareholders, as I've said over and over again,
are their biggest goal.
And that's fine, I suppose.
shareholders are a goal?
Now, she's just waffling.
You know, without Galloway, she's no good.
She really isn't.
Then she's just, she is the, she is just, ugh, itchy.
Well, she's, she's gone and she's like a single now.
She's, you know, she's like one of the people that were in the Rolling Stones
decided to become a single act.
And so she's, you know, when Charlie Watts did his jazz album.
So she quit the group to become a single because she's such a demand for it.
And so this dog of this, I want to live forever thing, which is overproduced and costs a lot of money, is going to cost CNN.
She's going to disappear from the scene after that thing, after the cost, analyze that sucker.
So we'll see what happens.
All right.
So now here they are together on the pod.
He brought 17 CEOs with him and three diplomats.
Flying billionaires on a plane to China to get shit seems.
Oh, by the way, she has a really follow.
mouth in this one.
Problematic.
Hi, everyone.
This is Pivot from New York Magazine
and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
I'm Kara Swisher.
And I'm Scott Calloway.
President Trump.
Oh, could you, can we start the show like that?
I'm Adam Curry, and you go,
and I'm John C. DeVorek.
I think we should start.
Let's do it.
Yeah, okay.
Everybody's doing the Bangaranga and
broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country
here in FEMA region number six.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm John C.
DeVorek.
Perfect.
Excellent. Excellent. I'm Kara Swisher. And I'm Scott Calloway. President Trump and Chinese President Xi have met for a little over two hours right now and attended a state banquet to start off their two-day summit in China. In G's opening toast at the banquet, Ji said, achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation and making America great again can go hand in hand. He's snickering at Trump on his back, though. The White House said both sides agreed that the straight of her mood,
must remain open. She warned
Trump that mishandling Taiwan
would cause clashes and put the entire
relationship in great jeopardy.
What just happened? Oh, it ended.
Well, well, that's good.
One more. One more from these jimokes. It's short.
President Trump, however, does not appear to be
overly concerned. Let's listen to how he answered
reporters' question as he left the White House
for his China trip.
Not even a little bit.
The only thing that matters when I'm talking
about Iran, they can't have a no clue.
weapon. I don't think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody. I think about
one thing. We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. That's all. That's the only thing that's
Oh, wow. That was some quote. That was like an ad. Like, they just, he cut an ad for them.
It was, that was astonishing, I have to say. I mean, it's what I think he thinks. And this nuclear
weapon thing, we're less safe now than we were doing the Obama days when we had most of the enriched
uranium and a deal. And the state of hermower.
moves was open. So any thoughts about what he's doing here? Why? Or he's just just an old
old man who just says whatever's on his mind. So this was indeed the ad and all of the M5M
jumped on this. Oh, he doesn't care. In fact, there's always one guy in the troll room who
always, who basically should be on the pivot pod. Yeah, screw Americans, right? You don't care,
but you can't care. They all did this. They all jumped up. He doesn't. Can't.
about your money. He only cares about nuclear war. President Trump is back at the White House and back to the
reality in the United States of gas prices, which are now averaging $4.53 a gallon nationally.
If you thought that after a couple of days away during his trip to China and when asked exactly
what he meant when he answered that question, that he was going to rephrase or clarify what he
said about Americans' financial situations when it comes to the U.S.
impact from the Iran war, you would be wrong.
Hold on a second.
That sounds like MS now.
The CNN.
Oh, that's CNN?
That's Caitlin Collins.
Okay.
It seems to me, yes, the Democrats who have been fighting against fossil fuels forever
and would love a $10 a gallon gas price to keep people from using gasoline,
should be happy about this.
How come they're bitching about it?
Can you answer me that question?
This is all about the midterms.
That's all that it is.
No, everything in the world is about the mid.
It's just the midterms.
The context and the question itself was pretty clear,
but also in the subsequent interview that the president did
while he was in Beijing with Brett Baer.
And in fact, during that interview,
the president continued doubling down on this sentiment.
When you tell somebody you're going to have to pay a little more,
not that much more, a little more for gas, Celine,
for a very short period of time
because we want to stop
the threat of being blown to pieces
by a lunatic by a crazy person
and they are crazy
using nuclear weapons
everybody says that's fine
and that question was a fake question
and they didn't put my full answer
I totally care.
Of course, to people struggling
to put food on the table
or who are grimacing
when they go to fill up their tank.
Vote Democrat!
There was nothing fake about the question
and as far as the president's answer
we've played the entire thing for you since he said it as he was departing the White House earlier this week.
But just for good measure, you can listen to the entire thing for yourself.
Okay, good measure. Here we go.
Mr. Brent, it's motivating you to make it feel.
Not even a little bit.
The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon.
I don't think about American financial situation.
I don't think about anybody.
I think about one thing.
We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon.
That's all. That's the only thing that's...
So it's subtle. It's very subtle, chopping off the front end of it.
But I think it matters.
So anyway, let's find out exactly what the, I don't know, financial people think of the trip.
And if they felt it was any good, this is CNBC.
I like CNBC because they kind of have to tell the truth.
It's difficult for them sometimes, especially for the Sorkin kid.
But they have to tell the truth because, you know, people invest on it.
And otherwise people won't watch their stupid network anymore.
So here we go.
President Xi has already issued a warning to President Trump saying that the Taiwan question is the most important issue in the China-U.S. relation.
And if not handled properly, these two countries could have clashes and even conflicts.
What do you make of this warning?
That's a very good question.
And that's probably the biggest concern for people like myself live in Taiwan.
In a summary, there are three subjects Trump want to talk about.
Number one is Iran and war, because they will do.
reduce inflation with more supply oil. Number two is trade. That's why Trump got other CEOs
Nvidia, Apple, etc., to China about trade. Number three is Taiwan. But from C's perspective,
the order importance is reversed. For C's perspective, Taiwan is number one subject, number one
importance. So if you listened, and I'm just going to think it's true, I don't know,
it could be total bullcrap, but if you listen to some of the interviews, it seems like some other
deals were made that
are relevant to our relationship
with China. Let me ask you this. The issue
and you've been asked about it
and you've spoken about it and that is
China's support of Iran.
How big a discussion was that today?
We discussed it.
I mean, when you say support, they're not
fighting a war with us or anything.
No. He said he's not
going to give military equipment. That's a big
statement. He said that today. That's a big statement.
He said that strong language.
but at the same time he said you know they buy a lot of their oil there and they'd like to keep doing that
he'd like to see hormones straight opened I said well we didn't stop it they did it then we stopped them
you know sort of interesting he joked he said you know it's sort of it they stopped it then you
stop them but they'd like to see it opened but they actually closed it he didn't like the fact that
they're charging tolls I don't know if they are not I don't know who would pay them I mean
where do they put the money the country's decimated you know they charge
Tell us, where's the money going?
Do you think President Xi and China have the ability to influence the Iranians,
considering they are one of their biggest customers?
I love how he's not going to give a truthful answer.
He's like, I'm not going to tell you that.
Look.
Look.
He's not coming in with guns.
He's not coming in with rifles and not coming in shooting.
Impluence.
He's been very good.
they get a lot of their oil, 40% of their oil from that location.
So what has happened, and one thing I think that we're going to make a deal on,
they've agreed they want to buy oil from the United States.
They're going to go to Texas.
We're going to start sending Chinese ships to Texas and to Louisiana and to Alaska.
All right.
Let's go to CNBC with our Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright.
You said short term.
Should we, should the world get?
prepared for maybe a longer supply disruption than some initially suspected?
Because give us your view on where we stand in the Strait of Hormuz right now, if you would, Mr. Secretary.
And also, what are your estimations about how long things might take to return to normal?
And I hate that term, but I think you know what I mean.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of that's up to Iran.
One way or the other, we will see an end of the Iranian nuclear program,
and we will see free flow of traffic through the Straits of Hormuz.
That could happen relatively rapidly with an agreement with Iran.
Every nation in the world is standing against what Iran is doing, including China,
who's a major buyer of Iranian oil and other oil from the Arabian Gulf.
Do you think they'll swap that out for U.S. oil?
It's kind of what I asked you at the top of the interview.
Yeah, certainly in the short run.
They're going to do that.
They'll continue to buy, and I think growing amounts of U.S. oil.
You know, you see that Chinese ships are getting to the Straits of Hormuz,
because I think we control it.
I don't think Iran controls.
I think we're just sitting there like, oh, this is great until you want to buy our insurance and use our new shipping infrastructure.
You can do whatever you want.
Come to Louisiana, come to Texas, best price.
Everything's going to be good.
And in the background, we've got UAE and their pipeline.
And eventually this thing will open up.
And I think you're going to see the price of oil go.
Just, just, you okay?
Yeah, sorry.
Just dive bomb.
It seems so cleared, even looking at the futures.
Yeah, but don't we want to sell them oil at a little higher price to make a little extra money?
Well, yeah.
And we also want to do the insurance.
We want to take this away from the British guys.
We want to run that.
We've seen Saudi Arabia go full flow to the Red Sea with their port of Yambu.
Do you think that the Strait of Hombu's and the Arabian Gulf are going to become permanently less important?
They're still massively important, but less important.
important than they have been? Oh, absolutely. I mean, Iran, this is a card you can play once.
You can play once. We'll see more pipeline capacity through Saudi, through UAE. You know, there's an
Iraqi pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We can see a pipeline going to Jordan.
Hey, maybe that's why Turkey tried to get involved. Remember Turkey was trying to get involved in the
conversation? Yeah, they were actually not should mention it. Yeah, I think we got a pipeline
send it our way.
This is good.
Saudi through UAE.
You know, there's an Iraqi pipeline that goes to
Chehan in Turkey.
We could see a pipeline going to Jordan.
There'll be other routes for energy
to get out of the Persian Gulf.
I like to prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf.
Ooh, we're renaming it.
How about the Gulf of America?
Yeah, could you know the one of those?
Yeah.
Out of the Persian Gulf, I like
prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf.
But yeah, I think we will see a decreasing
importance from the Strait of Hormuz,
But not a decreasing importance of those nations' energy production and energy supply.
They're great allies of the United States.
They're key energy suppliers to the world.
Yeah, I think they have some kind of plan that they're executing on.
And Rubio's, Lubio, I'm sorry, President Lubio is aware of it.
Is there anything you can, you can shed light on that?
Well, I think the details will be announced later today.
I don't want to get ahead of the actual announcement by the trade representative.
But there's going to be some agricultural purchases, which are important and they're important for our growers.
Yeah, soy beans.
And China needs those things.
We hope in the future to expand it to energy purchase.
You know, the United States is a net of off supplier of energy now to the world.
We're one of the worlds, if not the world's largest energy supplier at this point.
Obviously, when it comes to the airplanes and the engines, those are American factories and American workers that are making that.
And so anytime you can gain access to a market as large as this one, that's a very positive thing.
Yeah, I still believe in the arc model, America, Russia, China.
Look, you can buy some from Russia.
We're not going to make a problem out of it.
we're not going to sanction the ghost chips, just do it, do it legally.
Yeah, you can have to pay more, but, you know, just get on board with everybody else.
And then that straight will eventually open up.
It could take another four, five months for all I know.
I don't think it's going to take forever.
You know, there may be something to the, you know, our basic thesis on the show was always,
there's a back channel in Iran.
Yes.
We were working with them in some way, shape, or form.
Does that disappeared, or are we still, is it possible that we're still working?
that we're still working with him and all this is part of a giant scheme?
Completely possible.
And they're getting rid of the Ayatollah guys was part of it because, you know, the real powers
and Iran didn't want them around because they were annoying.
It was super annoying.
Well, they're very annoying, you know, and this way they were put the turt, remember the turban knockers,
the guy that kids are going bicycles and knock their turbines off.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
Well, we already know that there.
There's more hijabs on the streets of Amsterdam and than the streets of Tehran.
Yes, right.
You got that information from a Boots on the Ground report.
Yeah.
So, you know, things are, by the way, I got a boots on the ground from one of our producers.
He says, everybody, let me just find it here.
Everybody is, yeah, bugging.
Or he says, boogieing out of Kuwait due to imminent action.
Sunday was what we've been told and why we bugged out.
All contractors plus non-essential personnel.
evacuated. This has to do with all GCC countries.
Quote, Trump is done effing around.
Xi is handled. Oil being sold from the U.S.
CIA Mossad insurgency.
Hmm. We have served as the sheriff of the world.
Well, he's a military guy.
We've served at the sheriff of the world. We're cleaning up European colonia.
So there's a lot in here, but there's supposedly something might be happening today.
and everybody's getting out.
So I don't know.
Maybe this will come to a quicker end than we thought.
Well, it has to, in my opinion, because we still have the problem with the 4th of July.
Yes, yes.
We don't need anything the sort of Damocles hanging over our heads on the 4th of July in our celebration of 250 years as a country.
You know, speaking of Greek references, Chris, the knight of the iguana, he said he had a slight correction to the Thysudis.
Thysudides.
Thichydides?
Yes.
We can't pronounce it.
He says the Thysudides trap warns the upcoming power, not the dominant one.
Athens was the rising power.
Sparta was gunning for him.
if you take the Thysudides trap as it was originally written.
Thucydides.
Thucydides.
It's impossible to say.
I know.
Let's just call it T-trap.
If you take the T-trap, which is kind of cool with China,
China is in danger of the trap, not the USA.
So even this phony bologna thing that the M-5M was bantering about,
they didn't even get it right.
Although I'm...
Oh, they didn't...
What?
What?
Although I'm sure in a future dictionary,
the Thucidity's trap will be reversed just like decimated.
Yeah, decimated.
It'll just be reversed.
Meanwhile, Cuba on deck.
You recall, the president said that on our way home from Iran will,
we'll park off the shore of Cuba and we'll say,
hey, we're taking you over and they'll say, okay, we're good, we're ready.
Yeah, I got a couple of clips on this.
Oh, okay.
Let's play your clips.
Well, let's start with the blackouts one and two.
Okay.
Cuba blackout.
Yep.
First up today, Cuba.
This week, the island ran out of all.
Or, or causing massive blackouts across the country and a night of protests.
Havana.
Protests.
Who is this?
Is this NPR?
That's what's your name, that blackouts?
chick that works on the weekends. At NPR? Yeah, at NPR. And she just, I don't know, she just doesn't want to
pronounce words correct. Oh, I also got a visit from the CIA director. He was there for negotiations,
starting with a tough choice for Cuba's leaders. Change, or the U.S. will act. NPR international
correspondent Ader Peralta is following it all and joins us now. Good morning, Ader.
Hey, good morning, Alyssa. So let's start with more details from what looks like a week with a lot going on in
Cuba. Yeah, I mean, we're reaching summer there, so it's really hot, and it so happens that the
lights went off for more than 24 hours this week. So on Wednesday, very unhappy people took to the
streets of Havana. They banged on pots and pans demanding that the government turned the lights
back on, and the government didn't offer much hope. The country's energy minister, Vicente de la
O'Levi, came on TV and said that the 100,000 tons of Russian crude that arrived in April
has been used up and that the grid is now operating essentially without reserves. And remember that
Cuba has received precious little oil because the U.S. is running a de facto oil blockade. Cuba has
been investing in solar power, but the grid is so old, so frail, so lacking in maintenance that
it can't handle the voltage fluctuations that happen with solar energy. So that means that the long
blackouts that are making life miserable on the island are here to stay. And no, because we're
coming to the rescue. Is that what you have in clip two?
No, clip two is a little different. I think clip three maybe, which is a different clip.
But yeah. And while all this is happening, the director of the CIA lands in the country.
Yeah. Cuba says that the U.S. asked for a high-level meeting and a delegation headed by CIA director John Ratcliffe.
By the way, when the CIA director comes to visit your country, typically not a good thing.
Why is he there?
Last time a CIA director visited a country, we got Ukraine.
Yeah.
I'm wondering this myself.
They said, well, they want a high-level meeting.
Why don't they send Rubio?
Rubio is the obvious choice.
He's Cuban or any number of people.
Rubio, of course, would be the top guy.
But they send a CIA director because they want a high-level,
what, this means there's something's up.
Yeah, I don't like it either.
It's very suspicious.
Landed in Havanaugh.
Well, I mean, I don't dislike it because something.
up, and maybe it should be, but okay.
The Cubans say they made it clear that they don't pose a security threat to the U.S.
They say they don't host any foreign military or intelligence bases on the island.
The U.S. readout of the visit came out from a CIA official speaking to NPR on condition
of anonymity.
And that official said that Radcliffe came with a message for Cuba, and that's that the U.S.
wants to, quote, seriously engage on economic and security issues, but only if Cuba makes
fundamental changes. I've spoken to Cuban officials, and they have been fairly consistent in saying
that they are open to economic reforms on the island. They're even open to U.S. investment,
they say, but that they will not, especially not under pressure from the United States,
give up their president or change their one-party system, or for that matter, their socialist
ideology. I think the question is whether those things are the changes that the U.S. considers
fundamental. So what? I mean, does this point to a stalemate? Neither side is going to budge?
I think you could read it that way.
And that's consequential because
President Trump has threatened military action.
But I had a conversation with
William Guerra, a Cuban historian.
Has he threatened military action?
I'm wondering.
I don't remember that.
I mean, nothing to the
of the likes of, you know, like we're going to remove
a civilization.
I don't recall that.
Neither side is going to budge?
I think you could read it that way.
And that's consequential because
President Trump has threatened
military action. But I had a conversation with Lillian Guerra, a Cuban historian at the University of
Florida, and she sees both sides softening. The Vatican, for example, has been instrumental in bridging
gaps between the U.S. and Cuba. And it's notable that Secretary of St. Marco Rubio met recently
with Pope Leo. The U.S. has also offered Cuba $100 million in aid. And Cuba has said they would take it.
And importantly, Cuba also released a high-profile prisoner on Thursday. Geras' read is that the situation is
so dire in Cuba that both sides are afraid of an explosion.
Do you mind if I just insert one clip here?
Go ahead.
Because...
But I want to mention something, which is the fact that it didn't make a lot of sense
that Rubio is going to meet with the Pope.
You thought, well, maybe he's a Catholic.
But now it makes a little sense that it's part of this scheme.
Yes, I have...
And by the way, that kind of reconfirms the fact that a communist system
really should get rid of religions if it wants to...
succeed. I mean, the thesis in Russia was, let's get rid of the Russian Orthodox Church.
That's, you know, put it into the background because we don't need outside influence,
which the Pope is, telling people how to think or how to behave, because it hurts the communist
system. I just found it kind of ironic that they screwed up that part of it.
Well, so I just put a couple things together in my tiny brain.
So we've got Rubio talking to the Pope.
The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church.
What is the original acronym for CIA?
Are you talking your tiny brain or the brain in your head?
No, that's the tiny brain in my head.
It's very tiny.
The tiny, that other tiny brain is somewhere else.
It has a mind of itself.
Okay, sorry.
It was...
Rubio talks to the Pope.
The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church.
what is the original acronym that we always laugh about for the CIA, of which the director was just there?
Catholics in action. Catholics in action. Now listen to this.
Just go to Jen, because, you know, Jen, Patrick and I were talking yesterday about the possibility, of course, of this offer of $100 million that we're hearing now that the island appears willing to accept.
Do we have a sense from this meeting, the CIA, what you are hearing as well, on what kind of reforms they're likely to see, right?
they want to see and how quickly?
Well, Issa, in addition
to those security reforms that Patrick
laid out that came up in that meeting with
the CIA director yesterday, they are
also pushing what they describe as
economic reforms on the island,
essentially opening it up to private
investment. This was something that was
a key focus of a different
visit by U.S. officials last month
to the island where they met with senior
Cuban officials. And they were saying
they needed to make these economic reforms
in addition to those security
reforms in the near term or else they would continue to face a catastrophic situation.
Now, it is clear here that these economic restrictions are going to remain in place
unless these alleged reforms are taken by the Cuban government.
However, the State Department says that they are willing to offer this $100 million in
humanitarian aid only if it is given through the Catholic Church or independent organizations
on the ground. They say that this is the key string that is attached to this offer, that it has to be
distributed through these independent organizations. Now, a senior State Department official said that
they have been in touch. They have reached out to the Cuban government through what they described
as a senior channel between the State Department and senior leadership in Havana about this
aid. Cuban officials have indicated that they would be willing to accept it if there weren't
conditions on it. So now take what you just said.
So the State Department says, Rubio goes to the Pope, he's, hey, Pope, hey, Leo, you're from Chicago.
You know how to deal with me.
We can talk.
We can talk business.
So we're going to give $100 million for Cuba.
We want you guys to be in charge of doling it out because there's nothing more embarrassing
towards a communist system than the church coming in and telling them what to do.
That's actually kind of genius.
I love that.
My donations clip, which is the third clip I've got in Cuba, has a similar kind of, they bring the UN into it and how they do.
We don't want to deal with them.
It's kind of interesting.
It's similar to your clip, but to play it anyway.
The United Nations is trying to raise more money for aid to Cuba, where a major energy crisis threatens health care and food production on the island.
But NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports the United States says it won't contribute to the UN's efforts.
The UN's office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs says it has raised only 30% of the $94 million it needs for Cuba.
Fuel shortages have created what one top official called a multifaceted emergency.
The State Department tells NPR that the U.S. will not give any money to the U.N. in Cuba,
stating, quote, the U.N. in Cuba has long colluded with the regime.
The statement goes on to explain that Secretary of State Marco Rubio has offered $100 million in goods to be delivered.
by the Catholic Church or other, quote, independent and respected organizations.
This is like a huge F you.
Like, okay, you need some diesel.
Clearly, you need some diesel.
We got some, we got a, we got a Jesus boat with some diesel on it coming your way.
But, you know, we got to have the Catholic guys run everything now.
I mean, it's such a slap.
It's quite funny.
It is funny.
And also, you know that they're going to do the right thing.
Because you know, the whole point is, stop the communist.
You know, if Rubia goes and says, well, you can't be commies anymore,
like, no, we don't want to do that.
You know, that'll be a huge problem.
But now you're just bringing the Catholic Church and like, well, you know, we owe you one.
I think it's funny.
It's a very strange situation.
And out of the blue, I mean, this whole Cuban thing,
was not part of the campaign that Trump ran.
It wasn't even discussed.
It's like a whole new idea.
Somehow, I think, you know, to be honest about it,
it has to be Rubio behind the whole thing.
He's the Cuban in the administration.
And the Catholic.
And the Catholic.
Yeah.
And a friend of the Pope.
Buddy, buddy.
Trying to iron things out between him and Trump
and this phony baloney feud that they really don't have.
Yeah, yeah, precisely.
But the media loves that.
Because, oh, if Trump's hate Catholics, well, what's Rubio doing there?
It doesn't make any sense.
It's good.
And I think, well, isn't J.D. Vance a born-again Catholic?
Then he joined the Catholic Church late in life or something?
I don't know. Is he a Catholic or is he born-again Christian?
No, I think he's a Catholic. Look it up. I think he's a Catholic.
Well, we don't look things up on this show.
No, that's right. You can ask your buddy.
We consult the book of knowledge. Here we go.
Is J.D. Vans a Catholic or just a regular Christian?
regular. Let's find out. All right, Book of Knowledge.
He's searching through all the pages.
According to the Book of Knowledge, J.D. Vance is a Catholic of a very specific type,
having converted to the Catholic Church in 2019.
He grew up loosely evangelical Christian, identified as an atheist as a young man,
then reconnected with Christianity during law school before his formal conversion.
Thus, it has been written.
Hmm, well, I guess he is a Catholic then.
Yes, it's exactly right.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so that'll be fun.
That'll be fun to see.
But the big thing is investment in the island,
American investment.
How do you?
Yeah, it's about time.
I mean, you know,
the Canadians have been investing there for a long time.
It's getting on our nerves.
You know, they're putting money in.
They got property.
This is a great place for,
It should be a vacation paradise.
It's a new island right near Florida.
Yeah, 90 miles away.
Jamaica's getting old, you know.
It wants to be a virgin islands.
Epstein Island, you know, everyone's been to all the islands.
Yeah, no, Cuba's always been big.
It's always been, and it's got cigars, cigars.
Cigars.
Not only that, but the cigars are quite remarkable.
Don't they have a drink to?
Do they have some kind of drink that they're good at?
A Cuban.
Okay, thanks.
Very helpful.
I don't know.
Very helpful.
Mohito?
I have no idea.
Yes, the mohito.
All right.
Okay.
Where do you want to go now?
Well, I got a couple of shorties here that are interesting.
But let's say, I've been wanting to get this out of the way.
CBS did a special on trolls.
On trolls?
Yeah.
The psychology of a troll.
Wait a minute.
Did they interview anybody from our troll room?
No, they didn't interview any real trolls.
But the whole thing, the subtext is that Trump is a terrible person because he's a troll.
Oh, I see.
So they're trying to deconstruct Trump by doing a story about trolls.
That's my guess.
But here's the, here is a two part, two clips.
They're very short.
but entertaining.
Listen up, everybody.
Arthur Brooks can eat a plane of hot trash.
That was the first comment
that CBS News contributor got on one of his online columns
and his earliest experience of internet trolls.
One of the things that we have seen since time immemorial
is people with a pitchfork,
pitchfork setting fire to the people they don't like.
That's right.
Perhaps the main difference now
is that they'd have to come back to their families
and communities, and now they can hide behind
the anonymity of an anonymous
Twitter handle. It's the perfect
ecosystem for people that we call
trolls today. And if you spend any time
on social media or any time in the comment section
after a news article, you're going to find
that it gets really toxic really
quickly. So as a behavioral scientist,
and also as a writer in public,
I wanted to know who are
these people. And I started to do a little bit
of research into it. And it turns out
they're not like just you and me.
It turns out they're different. They're from the
7% of the population that have
sociopathic characteristics.
They're disproportionately drawn from
what we call dark triads.
People with narcissism,
Machiavellianism, meaning I'm willing to hurt you,
and even psychopathy.
They have psychopathic traits, mean they feel
no empathy or remorse, and they
enjoy hurting you to, and
this is why we can't say that these are ordinary people.
Well, maybe these trolls
are actually awesome people now that the way
he described it. These are
our people. These are these narcissists.
Yeah, these are our people.
psychopath. This is just
this is an offhanded attack on
Trump. It's still our people, 7%
are in the troll room right now.
We have a lot of, we do have
a disproportionate number
of people that would qualify.
And they should be proud of themselves.
Yeah, he should be. 7% is actually
fewer people than I expected.
Yeah, but you're disproportionately
drawing from that population.
They're the ones that are actually trying to start
internet conflict. They're the ones who are actually
insulting other people. They're the ones who are actually
insulting other people.
They're the ones who are actually trying to get you all fired up because they enjoy seeing the emotional turmoil.
Yes, yes.
That is exactly them.
I love you, people.
This is what you're doing.
Yeah, the jig is up.
We're on to you now.
We figured you out.
CBS is on to you.
Trollery.
Trollery.
They're getting their thrills from it.
Now, there are others who say they don't.
We actually have studies that ask internet trolls, why they're trolling.
Some of them say, for social justice.
But guess what else we find?
What?
People who are activists, political.
activists, they tend to be psychopathic as well.
This is one of the things we need to keep in mind on either side of the
side of the aisle. If you're a real activist and you want to fire
people up and get people angry, there's a reason you like people to be angry.
So there are some parallels there are. Wow. So that kind of reminds me of that
Twitter post you made.
Which was. There was some video about a guy explaining how
psychos get to the top of political. Oh yeah, the psychopaths taken over the
world. Yeah, that was a good, that was a very interesting analysis. But Spencer Pratt falls into this
category. Yeah. You know, you know what's interesting is now other people are making videos for him.
No, most people have made, he hasn't made very, he's made very few videos. The only ones he's made
or involve him and he says this is, you know, by, he basically doing an interview. No, they're all
made by third parties. There's about six or seven groups that do a lot of them and there's a bunch
of independence doing a bunch of them.
They're all done by outside people.
Not just one or two, all of them.
That's why the style is so different from one to the other.
So, you know, Tina is very enamored by this.
And she's kind of given up on news.
She's given up on our show.
She doesn't even listen to our show anymore.
She's like, she's watching dogs on TikTok, on Instagram.
and people cooking with cheese.
That's our competition.
But people cooking with too much cheese and cats that play the piano.
Yeah, that's basically our group.
Yes, and we're losing.
We're losing now and again, you know, I'd say.
Now, but the Spencer Pratt stuff, she sees that.
She says, you know, this could spark a revolution and many more people could do this.
What do you think?
Well, I think that's what everybody
I mean, what she says there is a commonplace
as far as I'm concerned
which is that Pratt is doing what the future of politics
Right.
Is what he's doing.
The issue, it seems to me,
is that there's going to be some legal action taken
because of likenesses.
Oh, but if you're famous, you can't do that.
I'm thinking there's going to be some
there's going to be some changes made in the law
because there has to be at some point because there's a lot of, of,
the kind of defamation that is part of his videos or the ones that are being done on his behalf,
let's say, because that's what the situation is,
even though many of them identify what group is doing them at the end.
There's usually an identification, not always, but a lot of times.
Okay, this is interesting that you bring this up,
because I think we're seeing the law change in many different,
ways, and you identified one early on about where parents are going to be penalized for things
their idiot kids do. Yeah. Which is, I mean, if you...
Speaking up on us. But it's really quite insane. I mean, if you look at the American laws,
most of them were written based upon biblical laws, and this is the exact opposite. You know,
Scripture says, you know, no parent shall be responsible for what his child does or the other way around.
And so this is such a diversion from U.S. law and the origin of it from a long, long time ago.
And so I was very surprised to hear Genean Piro, Judge Janine, who is now the Attorney General for District of Columbia, when she said this.
And as we grapple with this problem, there was a...
is one area that hasn't been discussed. Parental involvement has been a noted gap in any discussion.
And I am here to say, as the United States Attorney in the District of Columbia, that ends today.
Starting today, my office will aggressively prosecute parents under D.C.'s curfew law.
And the specific statute that we will use is a violation of D.C. Code 22.
811, and it involves contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
This statute makes it unlawful for an adult to enable, facilitate, or permit a minor to
engage in delinquent acts.
The penalty is up to six months imprisonment.
So if the evidence shows that parent knew or should have known or permitted or failed to prevent
participation, we're going to charge them.
And if you drop your kid off and you fail to supervise them or you let them skip school
to join the chaos, you are going to face fines, court-ordered classes, and possible jail time.
This, I'm against this.
Why?
You don't think there should be any parent responsibility whatsoever for delinquent kids who've gone
nuts and they're unsupervised because the parents?
or lacking
Yes. Yes. Yes. However, I think
the kids need to be penalized.
Otherwise, they'll never learn. No, they don't.
Well, if their parents are taken away, they sure do
because they're going to be locked up in a foster care home.
I think you put these kids into, you tase them first.
But there's things changing in our laws.
And I just, I'm not, there's a lot of things I don't agree with.
I'm just, I'm not entirely on board with that one.
at least she's not clear about the kids.
It's like, you know, everything is now the parents' fault.
So Rob Cardi, our constitutional lawyer, suits and boots.
He was so jacked up this week.
He's like, this is huge.
And for his business, it is huge.
But I think it also is going in a direction that we would like to see.
This is a change in liability from a court ruling by the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court ruled unanimously to allow a man who lost part of his leg in a trucking crash to sue a major logistics company that hired that truck.
The man's attorneys argued that the truck driver had been cited for careless driving in another crash months earlier and that the broker, C.H. Robinson, should share liability.
Last month, CBS News chief investigative correspondent, Jim Axelrod, spoke to families who lost loved ones in similar crashes who could also be impacted by this ruling.
This is what Ohio State Troopers confronted, responding to a crash outside of Cincinnati the day before Christmas in 2022.
Can you hear me?
A tractor trailer heading north on I-75 crossed the median and slammed into two vehicles.
They were texting me throughout their drive, saying how close they were, where they were, and then I heard nothing.
Amy Ross had planned to host Christmas for her family that year.
In those two cars, her mother Kimberly, a sister Lauren, another sister, Karen, and brother-in-law, Jeremy Baney.
And that's when we got in touch with the police, and the police said they're all gone.
and there was nowhere to go.
There was no hospitals to go visit them at.
The driver of the truck, a Cuba national with a green card,
had left Miami two days earlier in a truck that police said
had a stolen federal registration number.
A toxicology report showed elevated levels of cocaine and methamphetamines in his system.
After the crash, the driver fled back to Cuba.
How does a guy like this end up hauling goods?
for Walmart. I don't think that this driver or many others like him end up on the road,
but for the broker, turning a blind eye. So now the brokers are going to be liable for these
crap drivers that they hire. Here's this guy is that he does a YouTube, the mother trucker.
And it's just short, but a little color to it. To put a plain and simple, a lot of owner
operators saying this is a big win because the Supreme Court just had a unanimous ruling
saying that brokers are pretty much accountable for negligency when hiring any motor carrier,
right, that is unsafe, you know, and they are including illegal alien truck drivers in this.
So is this a big win? Because when you look at this and you're trying to book loads,
the shippers, they want to pay top dollars that time.
not all bad times.
And then they have the broker that's supposed to make sure that happens.
And what do they do?
They pick really crappy carriers to haul their loads.
And they don't care.
They just want that extra money going to their pocket and get some random carrier to do the job.
And then that person gets into an accident.
And when they do, there's no accountability on the broker.
But now that changes.
Yeah, not always a change for, uh, self,
par truckers, haulers, loaders, whatever you want to call them, but how about autonomous trucks?
And with this type of liability changed by the Supreme Court, could we see perhaps vaccine
manufacturers coming up soon?
Well, something's got to give on the vaccines.
Or pharma providers in general.
Which is one of the reasons I'm glad to see Bill Cassidy came in third in a three-man race and got
kicked out of his Senate seat in Louisiana.
This is the creep who, who condemned, you know, wasn't going to vote for Bobby Kennedy.
He's a big promoter of the, of the vaccine for hepatitis B for babies.
He is one of the top ten recipients of pharma money.
He's also the guy when he was hassling Kennedy, demanded that Kennedy see him twice a month.
to confirm that he wasn't going to change the schedule for 86 vaccines for infants.
I mean, the guy was just a bad actor and he finally, you know, Trump wanted him out and he got out
because he's also voted for Trump's impeachment on the second go round of the impeachment
when Trump wasn't even president anymore.
That's great.
The guy's a total creep.
I mean, why was this guy even in office?
Oh, this brings me to
Hanta virus.
So this is the, what is this guy?
Admiral, what is that guy's name?
Admiral, Admiral, he's the Admiral.
He's just him saying everything's okay.
Zero Americans are sick with Hanta virus.
Brian Christine is his name.
Just linked to that cruise ship docked in Spain.
U.S. health officials confirming for the first time,
no Americans are believed to be.
infected with the Andes strain, including the passenger who ended up replacing the ship
doctor who initially tested positive. Further tests actually show he may have never been sick
with the disease. In total health authorities are watching 41 Americans for the virus, including
16 who were never on that ship, but were potentially exposed to one of the cruise ship passengers
who got on a plane. All right, that's the report. Here's the Admiral himself. Let me be crystal clear.
The risk of Hunter virus to the general public remains very, very low. The Andes, very low. The Andes,
variant of this virus does not spread easily, and it requires prolonged close contact with someone
who is already symptomatic. Even so, we have taken this situation very seriously from the very
start. We've taken it seriously across HHS, and particularly through the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention. And I'm proud to see many of my U.S. Public Health Service officers have been
actively engaged in the response. The CDC rapidly activated its emergency operations.
Center, it deployed medical teams to assess passengers and coordinated closely with international partners.
They have notified state health departments. They have initiated monitoring of potentially exposed
individuals, and they have issued clinical guidance through the health alert network. And they have
also brought together national partners through coordination calls. They've developed tools and
resources to support public health decisions making. Well, the point being for that clip is,
the guy sounds like he's a typical boring guy and he's just you know he's going to the motions but he has it kind of covered and he's not he's not he's not hair on fire like we're all going to die but then i thought this was going to blow over in two days and this has been like two weeks already isn't it oh yeah it's not going to blow over but then i then then then so this is the new guy admiral christine so now we go to cnn and then listen to this tonight we have a cn exclusive k file and covering new details about one of the trump administration's top public health health
officials who led the public federal response this week on Hanta virus. Dr. Brian Christine stood
before reporters promising response grounded in science and grounded in transparency. But before joining
the administration, Christine was an Alabama urologist with little experience in federal public health.
He specialized in penile implants and once hosted a YouTube show called The Erection Connection.
You coughed over to want to make sure you heard about it. I'm sorry. You're right. Yeah.
I want to make sure you heard about his, he's huge.
show penile implants and once hosted a YouTube show called the erection connection
which i need an end of show mix someday we'll find it erection connections anyway so they're
burning you do it they're burning this guy the erection connection on his procedures kfile also found
a history of far-right commentary and conspiracy ting smart including comparing the biden
administration to nazi germany questioning the 2020
and suggesting the COVID vaccine did little to stop the pandemic.
So, okay, it's funny.
I think the erection connection is a great find.
But here's CNN burning the admiral over at HHS.
The previous admiral over at HHS, of which they never said anything bad,
was literally a dude in a dress.
Yeah, Rachel.
Rachel Levine.
Rachel Levine. Literally a guy in a dress. Oh, never, never a bad word about her, him, it.
Come on.
You nailed it. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, meanwhile, it doesn't make any difference because Ebola's back.
Yeah. Woo! Finally. Yeah. When it rains, it pours, people.
I got two clips, one from C, the comparative to the CBS clip and a BBC clip, you can play either one.
How about CBS first?
There are growing concerns over yet another deadly virus outbreak.
Doctors are monitoring an Ebola epidemic in Africa that may be to blame for dozens of deaths so far.
CBS's Lillia Luciano has the alarming developments and speaks to a US-EAR doctor who survived the virus.
Survived.
In Congo's Eturi province, health officials are battling a new Ebola outbreak.
The Africa CDC says there are 246 suspected cases and at least 65 people dead.
the highest death toll from the disease in years.
The World Health Organization is concerned.
We know very well that the country has experienced,
but the region where it is happening is highly volatile
with the humanitarian situation going on
and the population moving around from South Sudan to Uganda and other parts.
Government officials confirmed the outbreak has now spread to Uganda.
Medical professionals seem very concerned
about the possibility or the ability to contain
this? Why is that compared to other times?
It's already a big outbreak at the point that we're hearing about it.
There have already been a number of deaths.
And this is a strain of Ebola for which we have no treatment, no vaccines.
The virus spreads through direct contact with blood and other bodily fluids.
Dr. Craig Spencer contracted Ebola while working in Guinea in 2014.
Healthcare workers are the group that I'm really concerned about because they have very
close contact with people when they're most contagious, particularly around the time of
folks' death.
And the U.S. has been the single largest external player in Ebola response in the past.
Now experts are worried that the dismantling of USAID and the U.S.
withdrawing the World Health Organization could have an impact in the global efforts to contain
the virus.
Let the World Health Organization do it.
Yeah, Bill Gates.
Why does USAID have to do everything?
They can't because they don't exist anymore.
Well, good.
Good at BBC.
The Democratic Republic of Congo's health minister has said the strain of Ebola, which has broken out in recent days, has a very high death rate.
Samuel Roje Kambas said there was no vaccine or specific treatment available.
The outbreak has caused 80 deaths out of nearly 330 suspected cases.
Shinganyoka reports.
The numbers of the dead and sick have been rising rapidly since this outbreak was declared, mainly in two gold mining border towns, where it's feared that high population movement could spread the disease further.
The African Union's public health agency has called for an increase in cross-border monitoring after Uganda confirmed its first fatality.
The 59-year-old man had recently traveled from the DRC.
Officials have called for international assistance to contain what is now the DRC.
17th outbreak.
World news from the BBC.
I think I have one clip
from CBS that has something additional in here.
This is the Democratic Republic of Congo's 17th outbreak
of the deadly viral disease,
and it's unfolding against the backdrop
of a deepening security crisis
where clashes between rival militia groups
have killed dozens of civilians in recent weeks.
Abdir Rahman Mahmoud is with the World Health Organization.
We know very well that the country has experienced
But the region where it has happened is highly volatile with the humanitarian situation going on and the population moving around.
So our response is to stand with the regional government and the country neighbor in terms of solidarity to show again that they can control this outbreak.
And Ebola was first discovered back in 1976 in what is now the DRC and is thought to have spread from bats.
Now this morning, health experts are born.
Bats.
Those Africans are eating bats.
Yeah, it's a problem.
Yeah.
How many times have we been through an Ebola outbreak on the show in 18 years?
I think it's four.
At least.
And then we had two Zika's.
Four Ebola's, two Zika's, one COVID.
And now...
Well, no, we had three SARS.
We had SARS, gars, or whatever.
that other one was. We had the swine flu.
Merge, Mars and SARS and then
Corona-19, COVID-19.
And now Haunta virus, which is kind of cool. We got a new one.
Well, this is the second. We had a second. I think we've had
three incidents of Haunta. We had the current one. We had the one with
what's his name's wife. And then we had one earlier. Maybe 10 years ago there was a
haunted discussion. I don't remember from 10 years. I don't think we've ever had a discussion
on the show about Haanta. I looked it up at Bingot.i.o. I could
I didn't find any.
I did promise I would look into the resignation of McCary over the flavored vapes.
Do you remember this?
You've muted yourself.
I don't know how that happens.
I mean, that has literally never happened to me.
But I think my...
I can tell you how it happens.
I think Tina would love for me to mute myself sometimes, but not on the show.
Yeah, I'm sure she would.
Not on the show.
But beside the point, the, what happens is I get these pop-ups.
Pop-ups?
Yeah, pop-ups.
What world are you living in?
What happened to a blocker?
Blockers don't work anymore.
I mean, I have, for example, I got my AVG antivirus-free.
There's your problem right there.
Your AVG antivirus free expires in six days.
This is a pop-up.
Renew it, man.
So I click on it, but instead of clicking on, I click on the mute button.
Oh.
Because it's overlaying it, and it's just,
I don't know.
It's an accident.
Okay.
Well, it's okay.
So I promise I would look into this resignation from the FDA director, administrator, I think it is, over flavored vapes.
So let's get the full story.
And I think I've figured out what this was really about.
Children's National in D.C. is sharing its concerns after the FDA's decision to authorize
fruit flavored vapes.
And that move played a role in the agency leader's resignation yesterday.
Sunrises Max Marcella joins us live, Morning Max.
What does this authorization really mean?
And why is it driving this pushback?
Well, Hillary, this authorization means that one company called Glass can now market two of its flavored e-cigarette products.
They're blueberry and mango flavor.
Listen to this. Listen to this device.
They're called gold and sapphire.
And while advocates of this move are hopeful that it could help,
adults transition away from traditional cigarettes, there are many concerns being raised,
especially for young people. So look, big picture, teen vaping is at its lowest point in several
years, and these new devices will have a digital age verification system, but we spoke with
Dr. Susan Wally, the chief of hospital medicine at Children's National, and she's concerned that
teenagers could still find a workaround to the new preventative technology. Look, she says
these fruit flavored devices are extremely addictive and oftentimes are young person's first
experience with tobacco. We certainly are concerned as public health advocates, pediatricians and
teachers that, you know, our young people will get the idea, oh, well, maybe this means that it's
okay if the FDA has authorized it and it couldn't be further from the truth. So, so one,
and I've followed this because I'm a vapor and I totally,
disagree with all these Chinese crap vapes that who knows what's in them. That'll probably kill you.
And then they came up with it. It'll cost you a million dollars per flavor that you want to have the
FDA approve. And this glass company, which is some outfit in Los Angeles, they came up with,
oh, well, you have to link it with Bluetooth to your phone. And then with a government ID. I'm like,
come on. This is all nuts. But this is.
there is something going on here, two sides. One is the president who promised this to young MAGA.
I can't remember it, but I think he did. Like, oh, we're going to let you vape. Kids, vote for me.
And he also was having a meeting at one of his golf courses with the big boys from tobacco,
who are now switching from combustible products to nicotine, just pure nicotine products.
and they've spent a lot of money on his election campaign, and they want this.
They want the vapes to be legal.
And Durbin was talked about this in the Capitol.
Tobacco companies have donated generously to Donald Trump's election, his inauguration, his great Gatsby ballroom,
with the expectation of favor of treatment.
President Trump's administration has delivered for tobacco.
Last week, the Food and Drug Administration.
And I just have to say, it has nothing to do with tobacco.
Nicotine is nicotine.
It's not tobacco.
And, you know, there's all kinds of studies that say it can be good.
You know, having too much of anything is probably never good.
But it's not necessarily going to kill you.
Chinese vapes will probably kill you.
Bad vapes can, yeah, can create formaldehyde.
You can get pieces of.
Yeah.
And the problem with cigarettes themselves is the tar.
Yeah.
But Durbin makes it sound like it's all about tobacco, which is not.
But it is true that the tobacco industry has been moving to nicotine, and they certainly did support this president.
It's something it had never done before.
After pressure from President Trump, the FDA authorized the first ever flavored e-cigarettes.
Why is that important?
That's what lowers the children into this deadly habit.
Notice e-cigarettes.
We're not calling it vapes.
We're calling it e-cigarettes, deadly habit.
Scientists, doctors, and parents, even the FDA's own studies, all acknowledge sweet and fruity-flavored e-cigarettes are responsible for addicting our children.
Health experts I've spoken to believe the true number of high school kids vaping is at least 40 percent.
40 percent of our kids.
The same 40 percent who ate nicely colored fruit loops.
I mean, none of it's good for our kids.
The number's bull crap.
Of course. Teachers, principals, and students acknowledge.
These are not kids vaping to quit cigarette smoking.
These are kids who first became addicted in nicotine because of flavored vaping.
Why would an administration supposedly committed to making America healthy again
unleashed this new wave of addiction on our children?
Formaldehyde, chromium, heavy metals like nickel and lead, all are present in e-cigarettes.
A recent study found that vaping is likely to cause cancer.
Oh, yeah.
We should not trust big tobacco when they promise they won't market to kids.
We know better.
All right.
So obviously, this was kind of funny, and Kimmel made some jokes about it.
And then you have the reported beef between the president and his head of the FDA.
According to Wall Street Journal, Trump spent this weekend angrily bullying FDA commissioner
Marty McCary, seen here moments after he graduated from the school of Stockfield.
footage doctors. He berated him for delaying approval of flavored electronic cigarettes. You may
remember Trump promised young MAGA that he would save vaping, which is as noble a cause as there is.
And so like a kid giving up his lunch money, the FDA finally authorized cotton candy flavored
e-cigarettes. This is what's important to him. Vape pens. He's definitely been in Florida too
long. So I got no argument. I like vaping. I think it's great. I think it's great. I think
it should be easier for people to make safe vapes. That's not the point. This guy was pushed out for
very different reasons, and it surfaced on an interview on CNBC.
You know, to put it kind of bluntly, you've been getting some not great press late.
And, you know, I'm curious, just today, paranoia, turmoil and backlash inside the FDA under
Marty McCarrie, President Trump's Marty McCarrie problem. These are very recent stories,
Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal. A lot of it does stem from frustration.
with patient populations and physicians, which what they say is inexplicable decisions by the FDA
to not approve drugs, Replemune, for example, being a key one. How do you respond to this overall
criticism that, I mean, continues to this very moment? Yeah. Yeah, I think that article in the
Wall Street Journal is the ninth article they've posted in that opinion section, begging for
replimune's approval. I don't work for replimune. I work for the
American people, and I stand by the scientists at the FDA. Three independent teams arrived at the same
conclusions. On my watch, we have not done corrupt sweetheart deals. What we have done is followed the
science. So every accept or reject decision at the FDA on my watch has been the accept or reject
recommendation of the primary review teams at the agency. And I've spent my whole career taking care of
cancer patients to suggest that we want cancer patients to die is a little offensive. So it's a
about Replemoon. Replemoon has all the big boys behind it. I mean, you've got Black Rock,
you've got everyone has invested in this one company to make Replamoon, and it was supposed to be...
Replemune, isn't it? Replemune, yes, replamune. Are you familiar with it? Because it doesn't,
it's not in the market. I hope you're not using it. I'm sure that they'd love to pass it along.
Well, no. He was saying... There's a whole group called the RepliMune.
Lemieux group. Yes. But he was saying, no, this thing is no good. And these guys got not one, not two, not three, but nine articles in the Wall Street Journal opinion editors pushing for this drug.
Well, final question, because you referenced, use the word corrupt when you described sort of corporations. I'm just curious as to what you're talking about.
I'm talking about a small set of companies have a trial that doesn't go their way. They call you, they call CNBC, they call Wall Street Journal, they're
running as in your network nonstop, and they say, hey, this is wrong. The drug actually works
when the trial shows it didn't work, and they dial up tremendous pressure in the media to drum up
people, spin them up on results that don't match the data that we see. And what you see as a result
are nine articles by a couple editors in the opinion desk at the Wall Street Journal pushing for
one drug. What do you call that? I know. Well, they would call it being compassionate to the
8,000 people with melanoma who's frontline treatment.
I'm a cancer surgeon. I mean, if there's anything that'll help cancer patients,
100% we're going to get it to them. So, final clip about what was wrong.
Wait, wait. Well, if you do that. Wait, he's a cancer surgeon. I thought it was a dick surgeon.
No, this is a different guy. This is the FDA guy. Okay, I get a mixed up.
You're still 15 minutes behind. I am, yeah. All right, well, if you do that, I mean, I just want to go through it.
Because to the extent that I've been exposed to one story, it has been this one. I've talked to the CEO as well and any number of other people.
I mean, they would say they were granted breakthrough designation the basis of putting, what, a third of patients into multi-re emissions.
The original review team recommended approval.
And you've got a lot of oncologists out there who focus on melanoma patients who seem to be begging for it.
So again, what is it, can you explain what is it you saw that is different from what they see?
I'm not going to talk about an individual product, but if you read what we call our complete response letter,
you will see the details of the FDA's logic, and you will see some of those things shown not to be correct.
Can you give me something here to hang on to just understand what some of the details would be?
We published all of it.
So, for example, if you want to see whether or not a drug adds a benefit to cancer patients,
you run a control group where patients don't get the drug.
The FDA clearly recommended that control group.
The company clearly did not do that control group.
And so by law, we can only approve drugs with, quote, substantial evidence.
You went back and forth with them about that.
Didn't they say that that would be unfair to those patients given the efficacy of the drug itself?
The FDA has had numerous meetings with almost every company that brings products before it.
The recommendations of the FDA were clear, misrepresented in the media.
How did they're saying that they changed the goalposts.
They don't change the goalpost.
So when we're talking about how hard it is for RFK Jr. to do stuff, this is exactly what.
This guy got pressed out.
They threatened him.
Who knows.
Yeah, that's why they came up with the vape thing.
Yes, exactly.
No, that's what you do.
You go pounding, you pounding, you pound and you're pounding.
Say, well, hell with it.
Let's go after him some other way.
Yep.
And there it is.
Dream some scheme up here and we go with this.
Where side is he on here?
Well, that's what Trump wanted to do.
Okay, well, let's go after him.
Call Kimmel. Call Kimmel. Get them to make some jokes.
Yeah. You just keep doing it until the guy gives up. This happened with a woman who just quit the, I think she was the CDC or FDA.
And I don't, I had a clip of, I didn't have a clip, but I was going to discuss her.
And she was, she was drummed out, you know, the same way because they, this is major that if you didn't have the pharmacy companies so big.
And powerful.
shocking to me that Cassidy didn't get in because he's supported by them.
And you even hear this guy saying, hey, they're running ads on your network.
Yeah, that's why our CNBC guys like, whoa, what's wrong with you?
I mean, you know, it was a perfectly good drug.
Everyone, the CEO says, oh, what's that's so?
The Wall Street Journal, nine opinion pieces.
There was money behind this.
Big money.
And it was probably just for some stock win.
I don't think they have care about 8,000 melanoma patients.
Well, there was a stock play.
There was a stock at play.
There had to be.
So that's what that's...
No, it was.
It was called Replemune.
Okay.
And that's what all this...
It's down to five bucks a share now.
Ah, there you go.
Everyone lost their shirt.
So out you go.
Vapes.
We'll do something.
We'll do something.
We'll make you look stupid.
Yeah.
I don't think Trump is...
I don't think Trump even knew about this part.
No, he can't keep up with this stuff.
Kennedy can barely do it.
So Stephen Colbert had his last show.
I don't know if you saw it.
No, I'll go back and look at it eventually.
I had David Letterman on and they threw stuff off the roof of the CBS building.
Yeah, I did see that.
They clip that and put it online.
Yeah, yeah, I saw that.
And we discussed this offline after the show, one or two shows ago.
I'll just play this little brief bit.
about his replacement.
Meanwhile, fellow late-nighter Jimmy Kimmel joked at Disney's annual upfronts about CBS replacing
Colbert with Byron Allen's comics unleashed.
Quote, it's bad enough to lose your job.
Imagine getting replaced by the owner of the Weather Channel.
So Byron Allen will be replacing him.
Our initial thought was, go ahead.
Pretty embarrassing.
It's an insult.
Yeah, it's an insult.
I mean, Byron Allen is something of a genius entrepreneur, billionaire,
and he's been doing the same kind of schlock programming forever,
although he does, when it comes to the food stuff,
he has a number of foodie productions that he does
that are extremely well produced.
But most of his stuff is just, you know,
because Byron Allen, who's a black guy,
is a wannabe comic who's not funny.
Yeah.
But he's got a knack for producing kind of low-budget mid-quality material,
and he's been doing it forever.
Way before we started this show, he was doing stuff.
And he has this comics on Lease show, which is terrible.
I mean, it's just not well done, but it's cheap.
It's super cheap.
So that's what he's how he's made his money, leverage.
Here's the kicker.
CBS didn't replace Stephen Colbert with Byron Allen.
He is paying for the time slot.
Oh, that would make sense.
He bought the time slot.
That makes total sense.
Yeah.
And it's probably going to be more profitable than any of the other late night shows.
Yeah.
Because it's what he does.
And he's going to make good money off of that.
Yeah.
It's like an infomercial.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, you buy those slots, spots.
Exactly.
And then everyone else is going to go, you know, you'll see NBC.
The network actually instead of losing $40 million a year will be making money doing nothing.
Yes, for something that almost no one watches anyway.
Yes, infomercial level, a couple million people of which none are in the demo.
No, you want to sell medical devices.
You want to sell that phone.
I didn't know that, but now you mentioned genius.
Right.
That's why Byron Allen is a billionaire.
He's something of a genius in terms of.
of TV.
It's schlock, but it's still, what are you going to do?
What TV is good?
I mean, it's all schlock.
Ever since Dana Brunetti stopped producing shows,
and, you know, it's just gone downhill.
Yeah.
I'm doing this to get out of a lawsuit, by the way.
Oh, he's...
You know, good old Dana.
Yeah, that guy.
I heard that he's...
He hates Hollywood.
I love telling my church people.
Yeah, you know,
David Brunetti, big Hollywood guy.
He's, uh, he listens to the show.
He's kind of a friend.
You know, what do you do?
Uh, 50 shades of gray.
What?
That's pornography.
No, that was 50 shades of grayer.
That was the bad one.
Yeah.
House of cars.
There was a trilogy.
There was three.
Um, money, yeah.
Oh, three money makers.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
Of course.
That's why he has a fire truck and a farm.
Yeah.
The fire truck and a farm.
And we're podcasters.
I'm just saying.
You know,
We got cash flow.
All right.
You got anything else you want to do?
Yeah, let's see before we have any.
Yeah, I want to do, the Sharia law clip is always good.
Sharia law in the USA.
Big threat.
I find this to be kind of hopeless, but let's play these clips.
And lawmakers warn that groups in support of Sharia law have a long-term goal of widespread influence here in the U.S.
warnings of Sharia's authoritarian nature and social class divisions based on sex and religion.
They point to already existing Sharia-based tribunal courts happening in Texas and the United Kingdom.
And D.Coresponant Jason Blair brings us that story.
People do not have protection from imposing a foreign legal system or code that overrides or replaces U.S. civil or criminal law, nor the Constitution.
House Republicans warn that stronger action needs to be taken to curb the rise of Sharia law,
tribunals and acting courts in the U.S.
Political Islam silences dissent, prohibits religious freedom,
allows barbaric punishments, and treats women, children, and non-Muslims as second-class
citizens.
At a congressional hearing Wednesday, one witness said many Islamic groups have openly stated
their long-term intent of gradually making the U.S. an Islamic society.
They've written it down in the project, in a 12-point plan.
You can read it for yourself.
They've come to make this country, like they've made countries all across the world,
Islamic. Amy Meckleberg, founder of Rare Foundation USA, says there are Sharia-based
tribunal services operating in America. All across different places throughout the United
States, from birth to death, they now have full operational societies. So within these
societies, they have their courts. Subcommittee chairman Chip Roy says that the UK has 85
Sharia law courts operating in the country. Muslims are increasingly turning to Sharia
courts to settle disputes rather than the UK's legal system. He said,
UK. Yeah. Yeah. So it's called arbitration. That's what that is. It's arbitration.
Well, whatever it is, it's in the UK, it seems to be somewhat popular with certain groups of people. Amongst the Muslims.
Yeah, well, that's what they do. Well, if you are...
But it's just like the nature that this goes going to take over the U.S. and we're going to do this.
Oh, please. This is nonsense. But this is what I'm saying. This is like... Midterm for your
mongering is what this. Vote for Chip Roy. Vote for Chip Roy. He's your buddy. He's a Texas boy.
I'll stop the, I'll stop the Muslim compounds in Texas. And whenever I say this, people are always like,
look at this man. This happening is real. Yeah, maybe. But we're a little. Just look at the percentage
of Muslims in the United States and what their influences. Most Muslims in the United States
are not for this stuff. No. And we don't have open borders where
crazy Muslims are coming in and we don't have a society where we allow, at least we should not,
where we allow them to fire up their loudspeakers five times a day and have them stop and bow in the middle,
you know, in the middle of the street.
Now, you may see some videos about that, but that kind of stuff usually doesn't fly in America.
And this is different.
Europe is like, oh, no, this is multicultural.
We have to be nice to it.
everybody. And it took 25 years, if not almost 30.
The praying in the middle of the street doesn't fly in Saudi Arabia either.
But, you know, people are online.
Oh, it was happening. And if it's happening in your town, then you should put a stop to it.
That we can do. But that didn't happen in Europe. I saw this in the Netherlands.
I saw when, and look, they did a great job. When Pimfurtain was running for, um, for election.
and his party won after they killed him to assassinated him two weeks before the election,
he was saying do not allow the Islamification of the Netherlands.
And he got killed and then everybody shut up, went, oh, I probably shouldn't say anything about Islam.
And it still took 25 years to get to where it is today.
We have a lot of runway to stop anything nefarious.
But you are being played.
You are being played.
and I think it's, you know, there's these geo-fencing operations.
You heard about this?
Yeah, I have.
Apparently Israel has been paying companies in America to pop up ads and manipulate algos
geo-fenced around churches, particularly in California, but also in Texas in the Dallas area, Austin.
And part of their geo-fencing is Israel great.
And part of it is Islam no good.
Be careful, be afraid.
So you're being played on all sides.
But I agree with you.
The influence is not that great.
Oh, man, the amount of people, this is our next, our next Waterloo.
Part two.
Part two.
Rep Jamie Raskin argues that no special laws against Sharia law are necessary because of the existence of current U.S. law.
Murder is against the law in America, whether the parents are Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or anything else.
Another witness who's a high school student in Texas says his Republican Student Club faced hostile scrutiny and censorship by school officials in stark contrast to pro-Sheria groups.
While the Republican Student Club faced denial, censorship, post-removal, and hostile oversight.
An outside organization was giving easy access to distribute Sharia-related materials directly to students.
Administrators not only allowed it, they actively promote Islamic events.
Throughout the hearing, Democrats argued that existing U.S. law is enough to deter any threats.
While Republicans called for urgent action, citing Sharia-based tribunals and early warning signs in Europe and Texas,
reporting on Capitol Hill, Jason Blair, N.T.D. News.
Next, today is World Falland-Dafidae.
So if you ask anyone, what is Sharia law? Wait for the answer.
What is Sharia law?
Everyone thinks that somehow, well, it's going to supersede American law.
No, and I have to agree with Raskin, in that case.
It's not going to supersede American law.
You can't be going to killing people.
But that's also not what Sharia law is like, you stole my chicken, you know, I get to take some beads.
It's not going to chop your hand off.
It's not quite that extreme.
Yeah, I haven't seen that take place yet.
Have we seen a good stoning in America yet?
A good Sharia law stoning?
There's been a lot of people that have been stoned, but not in that way.
If Sharia law suddenly, then you can go stone a girl because she kissed a boy.
That is against the law in America.
You can't go stoning people.
But it's a meme now.
Oh, Sharia law, Sharia law.
Please tell me, what is Sharia law?
Trolls.
Because the trolls are all into this.
What is Sharia law?
They can't tell you.
It's fear-mongering to get your vote for Chip Roy and Ken Paxton and a bunch of other guys.
So we have, we got a couple of things.
I do have a three-by-three.
We can do that and get out of here.
Oh, well, three-by-three is always fun.
Now it's time for three-by-three.
Yes, experiment by J-C-D.
Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC.
That's right. He's got the big three. And it's a story that will probably sound exactly the same on all three networks, but there's always a twist.
You never know what these CIA broadcast systems will do.
Yeah, that's where we leave them for last. And we start with the ABC people and about the terrorist attack.
Tonight, an Iraqi nationalist is in U.S. custody accused of orchestrating terror attacks like these,
taking aim at American and Jewish targets around the world in retaliation for the war in Iran.
Federal prosecutors charging Muhammad al-Assadi with a slew of terror-related crimes,
alleging he coordinated 20 terror attacks in Europe and Canada in the last three months
and eyed additional attacks in the U.S., identifying targets in California, Arizona, and New York City.
He has been trying to inspire jihad around the world to the internet.
Prosecutors linked Al-Sadi to this stabbing in London that left two Jewish men,
including an American citizen, seriously injured.
Drop the knife!
To this attempted arson at Bank of New York Mellon in Amsterdam.
and this firebombing of a synagogue in North Macedonia.
Al-Sadi was apprehended this week in Turkey.
In court today, he claimed he's a political prisoner being persecuted for his ties to Iranian general Kassem Soleimani,
the military commander killed by a U.S. air strike in 2020.
He's essentially being subjected to a political prosecution, that he's a prisoner of war,
as should be treated as such.
But with federal prosecutors portrayed Al-Sadi as a terrorist mastermind who they said success,
co-ordinated attacks overseas and paid undercover agents to carry out more attacks in this country.
Undercover agents?
This guy's powerful.
It's a sketchy story.
Powerful.
Very powerful.
NBC.
Tonight, the FBI and NYPD saying they foiled potential terror attacks against Jewish sites in New York, L.A.
in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Plots, they say, are all tied to the Iranian regime.
This man, Muhammad al-Sadi, now held in a New York jail cell, is an alleged high-ranking member of the mysterious terror group called H-A-Y-I.
Authorities say they've already carried out 18 terror attacks in Europe, primarily targeting the Jewish community, including this suspect, tackled by British police after a stabbing rampage outside a London mosque, and the group carrying out the firebombing of this Belgian synagogue.
Tonight, the FBI says H-A-Y-I is a front for the Iranian-backed terror group Hezbollah.
And they say Al-Sadi's ties go right to the top of the Iranian regime.
Multiple photos show Al-Sadi with former Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Kusim Soleimani
killed in a U.S. drone strike during President Trump's first term.
Ah, there it is. This is Trump's fault.
Al-Sadi has specifically threatened to kill President Trump on social media.
He is certainly a leader in this terrorist organization.
and he was directing an inspiring terrorist attacks.
These photos exclusively obtained by NBC News show his arrival in New York last night
after he was taken into custody by Turkish authorities, according to prosecutors.
They say since April he's been communicating with an undercover officer,
offering to pay tens of thousands of dollars to attack Jewish sites in the U.S.
Oh.
Tom, these are alarming developments.
The suspect was in court today.
He appeared briefly in court.
His attorney says he thinks,
he's a prisoner of war.
Meanwhile, authorities believe the case underscores the wide variety of threats for events like the World Cup starting next month.
Ooh, yes.
Now, let me ask you some questions about this.
That was cute getting the World Cup in there.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me ask some questions.
So was he communicating with an undercover officer on our side, like one of our FBI guys?
Is that how they nailed this guy?
Well, wasn't it clearly explained in the report?
No, I didn't think it was clearly explained.
They keep talking about he had, he paid agents around the world to do stuff.
He was linked to Soleimani, Trump's trophy.
So I'm just waiting for this to be Trump's fault.
And that synagogue in Amsterdam, they locked off a whole part of the city.
You can't even drive in certain directions because of that.
But I didn't hear anything about this to like some nut jobs,
but I didn't hear any connections to this guy.
I don't know. This whole thing is fishy.
Appearing in a federal court in Manhattan today, Muhammad Al-Sadi-C...
CBS, yes, CBS.
Appearing in a federal court in Manhattan today,
Muhammad Al-Sadi smiled as a judge read off the list of terrorism charges.
Smiled. Arrested in Turkey in the last 24 hours and extradited to New York,
Al-Sadi is accused of trying to hire someone who happened to be an undercover officer.
Now it's clear.
Carry-out attacks in Los Angeles, Scottsdale, Arizona, and New York City.
Well, the system worked then. We stopped him.
New York City Police Commissioner, Jessica Tish.
said, we disrupted a plan to attack a Manhattan synagogue, and in partnership with the
synagogue's leadership, insured its security when the threat was elevated.
Prosecutors say on April 3rd, Al-Sadi sent maps of a New York synagogue and Jewish centers
in L.A. and Scottsdale to the undercover officer, agreeing to pay him $10,000.
In the next day, Al-Sadi is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down payment for
the New York attack, texting, I want to see good news tonight. Not tomorrow, bro.
Prosecutors say Al-Sahe is a commander of Kittai, his one.
Bro? Wait a minute. Where is this guy? Is he New Jersey?
Bro.
He is alleged to have sent 3,000 in crypto as a down payment for the New York attack.
Texting, I want to see good news tonight. Not tomorrow, bro.
Prosecutors say Al-Sadi is a commander of Qatib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed terrorist group with ties to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
He's pictured here with the late Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani, killed by a U.S. drone strike in 2020 on orders from President Trump.
His defense attorney said Al-Sadi is being punished for his ties to Soleimani.
This case is a political case and it's a political prosecution and we're going to be litigating it as such.
Prosecutors also say after the war began, Al-Sadi helped launch-
Wait a minute, wait a minute. He called it a political case?
Well, that's what he calls it.
Well, isn't that just terrorism?
It's an interesting point.
For his ties to Soleimani.
This case is a political case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to be litigating it as such.
Prosecutors also say after the war began, Al-Sadi helped launch 18 terror attacks across Europe,
including on a synagogue and a Jewish school in Belgium and the stabbing of two Jewish men in London last month.
CBS contributor Sam Vinagrad said retaliatory acts of terrorism could become more common.
Even when drones, missiles, and more stop flying over Iranians.
airspace, it is more than likely that these military campaigns have inspired a generation of
individuals to continue to try to wreak havoc.
And Al-Sadi is facing multiple terrorism charges, including providing material support for acts of
terrorism, if convicted major, he could face up to life in prison.
Yeah, whenever we have, like, he hired an undercover cop of, it doesn't even mention if was FBI or not,
an agent and then he sent him some crypto and used bro.
I'm like, this guy was some, probably some schmuck.
And they found a picture of him with Soleimani.
It sounds sketchy to me.
Well, maybe.
You could be right, but I think it's just a maniac.
Yeah.
And he's got a boatload.
He's got a bunch of cash and he's crypto.
Traveling all over the place.
Like he goes in Macedonia, then he's in Turkey, then he's in Holland and then he's
in New York.
No, no, he hired people to do that stuff.
Yeah, but he's been floating around too.
He didn't do it from Turkey.
He's not hiring anybody to blow up a synagogue in Arizona from Turkey.
There's nobody.
There's no connection.
There's not possible.
He's got to come over here to do some of that stuff.
The good news is he's off the streets.
The FBI has done it again.
We're safe.
Sleep well, citizens.
Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen, everything is well.
And by the way, my last clip is Harvey Weinstein. We're not safe because he's going to be out of jail.
To the index now, a judge declared a mistrial in Harvey Weinstein's rape retrial. The decision, after a jury in Manhattan, could not reach a unanimous verdict following three days of deliberations. This was the third time Weinstein was tried on accusations he raped an aspiring actress in a hotel room in 2013. Weinstein's lawyers argued the sexual encounter was consensual.
hearing next month could determine if there will be a fourth trial.
That is odd, isn't it?
Yeah.
Well, then I have two clips just to wind it all up because we're going to reopen
Epstein trials, more trials coming.
Oh, great.
That's terrific.
How many people have gone to jail so far?
Well, one person is, they want blood and one, they have a target on one guy.
Here's the MS now setting us up.
On the committee heard dramatic testimony from survivors at a field hearing this week in Palm Beach County,
where many of Epstein's crimes took place.
When I was 14 years old, I was abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
He abused me until I was 17 years old.
What happened to me was terrible, but what happened after that by our own government changed my life just as much.
I came here today to ask for one simple thing to make sure this never happens again.
I kept my identity protected as Gino.
I woke up one day with my name mentioned over 500 times.
While rich and powerful remain protected by reduction, my name was exposed to the world.
Okay.
So both of them say that they were abused by the U.S. government.
You wanted to say something?
No, I was going to say they got outed by the U.S. government.
Yeah, but I think the first one said it was worse.
Yeah.
So there's the Democrats in this case want blood.
And I think they'll get it.
I think they'll get it.
And it's about one guy and one guy only.
But let's turn now, sir, to the Epstein investigation because all House oversight Democrats are calling for Commerce Secretary Howard Ludwig to resign over his Epstein testimony.
What should the American people know about his interview and how it fits into the overall probe?
Look, no one should be serving the American people, certainly not as a cabinet secretary,
when you are essentially a known liar and unwilling to tell the truth, when you lie to the public,
and when you're not honest in a deposition in front of the Congress.
We all have seen Howard Lutnik in multiple times say that after 2005, he had no interaction with Jeffrey Epsi,
that he had known very well, and now we just know that that wasn't true.
We know that he went to the island, that he went into business with Jeffrey Epson,
that he communicated, his wife communicated with him.
And so then to them, him go into this interview with Congress and not admit to that and evade,
look, he needs to resign or be fired.
He has lied to the American people, and that is nothing.
That's not something a cabinet secretary should be doing.
And beyond that, this points back to this massive cover up.
Howard Lutnik has been involved at the White House continuing to cover up for the DOJ,
telling lies, and he's got to go.
Yeah, I think he will.
I think that's the scalp they want now.
Why?
Just to do it.
Lutnik's just a Nudnik by the, he's a commerce guy.
Who cares?
Yeah, he's important to Trump because of the, the U.S.D.C.
He's the big stable coin guy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's a big stable coin guy.
So this, I know he's the guy that, that Musk wanted to be secretary of the treasury.
He's a big Lutnik fan.
Oh, I'm glad we got to, uh, general.
Patten on the down low.
That guy's much better.
Yeah, much better.
More fun.
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And then did you see what he did on X?
the video?
Got you as looking like some sort of a thug.
Smoking. Smoking.
Smoking stuff.
And yeah, it was good.
It was fantastic.
I'm like, can we get animated art for an album?
I have to see if we can make that.
That should be something that the modern podcast apps do.
How cool would that be to have a little video playing?
That would be cool.
You had to make that part of the podcasting 2.0 spec.
I'm on it, boss.
I'm on it.
Let's take a look at what else
that was submitted at no agenda art generator.com.
A lot of value in that operation from Sir Paul Couture.
Let us take a look here.
We had some butts.
We had some butts.
We had comics from blogger.
Oh, we had a lot of pomp and ceremony.
There's another one.
Got a lot of pomp and ceremony, art pieces.
A lot of poop on the marble.
Man, that really hit.
Huh?
Poop on the marble.
And then the mousetrap with the cheese
and the chocolate.
Did you see the note that came in
that someone said the mask finally slipped
and you're actually a sadist
and a very, very evil human?
Oh, yeah, I was talking about,
I got one of those notes too.
There's two of them.
That I'm a terrible person for crushing a mouse.
Now, the fact is that that was just a joke.
If you want to know what really happens
when I get a mouse in a glue trap,
because I'm like fearful of getting mouse fleas that hit me,
I actually take a,
plastic bag and slowly kick the mouse in the trap into the bag and then seal the plastic bag
and throw in the garbage as fast as I can.
So he's alive in the garbage and he just dies slowly in the garbage?
He's dead already.
Usually they're dead already.
They die in that little thing.
So this morning, I was up at five as I used it.
So the guys who made these comments, I think there's a couple of them, they're idiots, okay?
It's just that simple.
This morning, I'm sitting in the kitchen.
at 5 a.m.
And I see something out of the corner of my eye,
and I'm telling you, a mouse walked right across the floor.
Like, wow, I can't wait to use John's glue trap system.
It's great.
Well, you know, some of these mice have a lot of nerve.
Oh, he was bold.
Yeah.
He was very bold.
I'm going to get him.
No, you'll get him.
You have to be careful because they start to multiply pretty quickly.
Yeah, but I know how to get him.
I know how to get him.
And then, you know, just like the ants,
is leave them in the trap for half a day.
So everyone can smell them.
So they know this is death over here, people.
Don't come near this one.
Well, that's an interesting theory.
Well, it's your theory is what you want to do.
If you torch the ants.
Yeah, how do you do that?
Yeah, you want to leave that torch smell.
A lot of people, like, on the blueberry tip,
man, the blueberry in the hallway,
that got a lot of art.
None of it was really fantastic.
I have to say.
Yeah, which is, we thought the number of those.
There's a lot of submissions, though.
Yeah, which is good.
We like that.
People are keeping busy, keeping the AI companies unprofitable.
So thank you very much, Scaramanga, Francisco Scaramanga.
Did I tell you his wife is some supermodel or some model?
No, I never heard this.
Yeah, Comics or Blogger told me.
He's seen a picture of her.
He says, he's like a model.
It kind of makes sense.
Good for him.
Yeah.
Yeah, the guy's lucky.
He could be a podcaster.
He's probably doing, he's probably, he's probably independently wealthy.
You know what I mean?
One of those guys.
We can dream up whatever we want.
That's right.
With a name like Scaramanga, it could be anything.
So now we would like to thank the people who support us with Treasure.
We thank everybody, $50 and above.
And if you are fortunate enough to be able to support us with $200, between $200 and $300,
not only will we guaranteed read your notes,
but we will also give you a Hollywood title of associate executive producer,
just like Dana Brunetti,
a big Hollywood bigwig.
You can find his name at IMDB.com with that credit,
and you will be there as well.
And you can use that on your resume that gets results.
You can use it in your social media profile.
LinkedIn, it always worked.
You can even become a consultant, I think, on some movies, if you want, or podcasts.
$300 or more.
The same deal.
We'd read your note,
a credit of executive producer.
We still have a few order of the red heart,
order of the heart red nights available,
which is just that beautiful package that you get,
and that was kind of a promo to welcome you back to the world of the living.
And I think we'll have one, if not two of them today,
because we start with Samuel Montgomery from Arvada, Colorado,
who comes in with $1,000 plus fees,
so that's $1,030,26.
sense. Thank you for saving us the fees. And he says, ITM, John and Adam, first time donor. I'm a registered
cardiovascular invasive specialist. I've been that for 20 years. I'm going to give him a deduished.
You've been deduced. I assist with performing cardiac cath procedures, which I assume John had prior to
his open heart surgery. It is an honor to become a red knight. Did you have a cath,
cardiac catheter
They run this thing up your leg
Oh, in your leg?
Well, they start in the leg
The top of the part of the leg
And then they run this thing up the veins
Or something with a
And they just run it up there
To check out
And then they send some horrible dye
Into your system
That then toxic
Poisons your kidneys
And then I can go on and on about this
And then they
And then you had
I had to go on dialysis for like
a month and a half to get this poison out of the system.
Does diabolism? Does that hurt? Does it suck? What's that like?
Actually, not being on it is nice.
Yes. Yes. But when you're on it, it's like you can nap through it.
Oh.
So it's dozed off. But it's, no, it doesn't hurt at all. It's actually, it's just annoyingly
wasted time because it takes forever.
Jay, Jay, Jay, please get a picture of John napping during
dialysis.
Too late.
Oh,
you don't have to do it anymore?
No,
no,
I haven't done it for a month now.
Oh, good.
I'm good.
And I'm happy to hear that.
How about the...
Who needs that aggravation?
How about the fluids?
Is that over now?
No, I still have some fluids to drain the other day.
Yeah.
I'm actually kind of clear right now,
so I have a more sonorous voice.
You do?
I can make deeper sounds.
It's a few.
And,
and,
I don't know when that's getting,
and that's getting annoying because they have this one guy who's actually
pretty good at it.
doing these thoracentesis where they they stick here's what so this guy's really good at it
it doesn't it doesn't hurt and it's actually quite pleasant so the time before last
the guy this guy's his name's Hans he's excellent at this name is Hans Hans Hans
Hans he's actually in it's more of an Asian but anyway so he says I have a resident here who
wants to observe so he can do this too.
And would you mind having that happen?
And you being a nice guy and went, yeah, sure, no problem.
I went, sure, yeah, no problem.
And that was a mistake.
Because instead of the normal, you know, the way he normally soothes, the way he does
the whole shives you with the needle to drain you, it goes like this.
Okay, here's what I'm doing now.
I'm going between the third and fourth rib,
and notice that as it goes into the cavity between the ribs,
and he's describing this the whole process.
And it's disconcerning, at the say the least.
So people out there don't have an intern or a resident watch anything.
It was disgusting.
I'm so sorry.
But was it less fluid than normal?
Are we on the uptake here?
Are we doing better with this?
Yeah, I think barely, yes.
Because I don't want you have to have an operation for that.
No, it's just the whole thing.
It's just annoying.
Yeah, yeah.
But are you going to go home soon?
Are you going to go back home?
Yeah, I can probably get there now.
I mean, but, you know, it's some, it's kind of comfortable being weighted on here.
Oh, my back hurts.
Can somebody get me an aspirin?
I'm with you. I hear you.
It's comfortable.
Nice. All right.
All right.
Onward with Steve Slocum, who also came in with $1,000.
Hello, Adam and John.
My name is Steve Slocum from Columbia Station, Ohio, long-time listener, first-time donor.
Let's de-dush him.
Let's de-dush him.
I mean, he didn't ask for it, but...
You've been deduced.
Deduced.
I started, yeah, good.
I started listening after Adam's first Rogan appearance.
Oh, Rogan donation.
This information is a bit late, but I felt it was relevant to the show.
I'd worked in one of the country's largest VA healthcare facilities before and during and after COVID.
The messaging this country received during that period of time was dramatically different
than what was happening in the...
facilities.
Veterans with active COVID diagnosis were forced to isolate in patient rooms together for extended
periods of time when social distancing was arguably at its worse.
It was sickening to witness the lies firsthand, thanks to the two of you and all the
producers during that time for providing grounded, relevant information to keep some sanity
in the world.
Oh, thank you belatedly.
With my $1,000 Bitcoin donation,
I guess it would be as a bit more.
I did come in his book.
I would like to claim an instantihood of the order of the heart
to assist with John's recovery.
I'd like to claim Sir Steve as my official title.
Request Reverend Manning Bitcoin jingle as well as health karma for all.
Thanks, gentlemen.
They're saying that all hell is going to break loose
and you're going to need a Bitcoin.
You've got.
Karma.
Lovely.
There you go.
A lot of people forget what we did during COVID.
They forget what we told you about Ukraine.
They forget all these things.
And they'll yell at us for things.
And then they'll come back a couple of years late.
Yeah.
It's all right.
It's all right.
It's all right.
We can handle it.
2026.
What do you say we make this show an even 20 years?
20 years.
There you go.
We're getting there.
Sir E61, Black Sheep.
Ah, now this is Time, Towns, and Treasure all in one.
He's the guy that I was talking about earlier.
Yeah.
He gave a...
Sir E61, is that some rank?
No, I think that's a Nokia phone.
But maybe it is.
I don't know.
He's in Johnson City, Tennessee.
But he's not because he's boogeying out of Kuwait.
He says, I sent Adam an update, was this $3.43.75, which might have been $3.33.
with fees. We evacuated. You get real time here, fellas. So there you go. Treasure,
talent, and time all in one. Thank you very much, Sir E61, Black Sheep.
Michael Trumbull in Morris, Minnesota, 3333.33. Here's a much overdue donation to the best podcast in the universe.
Your efforts and insights are indispensable. And since COVID have been under-supporting,
Under-supported, I tell you, in the Treasure Area.
Thoughts and prayers for you both.
Mitch Trumbull.
Thank you, Mitch.
Dennis Cato, coming in from Tampa, Florida.
We recognize the name 33333.
I TM and Adam, just to give you some background.
I actually have a history of correspondence with John going back to 1999,
though I'm sure he doesn't recall.
Let's find out.
Oh, I recall every note.
Let's see if John.
John remembers this. I was a Mac guy and an Apple employee that would routinely take offense to his articles where he would suggest Apple shut the doors, sell the stock, and give it back to the shareholders or that jobs return would do absolutely nothing to bring the brand back to prominence, etc.
Well, wait, wait, wait. After a few beers, I send some aggressively curt emails to John suggesting that he find a new position in life. That probably went something like FU.
but I was amazed when he actually would respond to my rantings and would be ever so gracious
and sweet.
Okay, do you remember this?
Oh, yeah, I'm a sweet guy.
No, no.
I'm sure he wasn't the only Apple employee.
There's a bunch of people that ran because I, okay, so I was hired, this really became
mostly during the Mac era when I was hired as the anti-editor of Mac user.
Yes.
By the publisher, Felix Dennis, who got, who I knew.
Is he dead?
He says, would you like to be the, we'd like to put you on the back, inside back cover,
but your job is to just say bad things so we can balance the magazine.
And you went, heck yeah, I'm in.
Oh, yeah, I can do that.
No problemo.
And so I began, and I was on the masthead as the anti-editor.
And I wrote these columns at the back, which were always critical.
but I was also critical on PC Magazine and elsewhere,
especially when I wrote the column,
which I think Steve Jobs put up in a frame,
which was Steve Jobs' good riddance when he quit.
It was a classic.
But yeah, I got a bunch of guys like this that were irked by my rantings.
That's funny.
He says,
speaking of Sweet Like John,
we invite everyone and get my nation to try our manuka gold honey with lemon grass, ginger, and turmeric.
Visit us at manuka gold.com.
That's manuka with a K.
For our wonderful line of wellness products, be well at manuka gold.com.
So this is an apple guy who sold this stock and bought some bees.
And I love that story.
And I love your product, Dennis.
Dennis Cato, Tampa, Florida.
Thank you.
Eli the coffee guy in Bensonville, Illinois, 20517.
Cheers to Bulgaria, winner of the 70th Eurovision contest, as the boys in the millennial media offensive say,
The Black Sea is in play.
Wouldn't surprise me to hear more from Bulgaria and Romania as European nationalism shifts further east.
That sea matters more than most realized for the energy needs of the West.
Fortunately, none of the current world turmoil has touched the coffee.
supply yet.
Get some fresh roasted coffee and visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use the code ITM 20.
For 20% off your order, stay caffeinated, Eli the coffee guy.
Then coming in with $200, another associate executive producership for A dot farmer from Udun in the Netherlands.
And he wants to hear a boogity, boogety, mac and cheese, shut up slaves, and a yak karma.
And he says, or traveling yak karma.
Bless me, Podfathers for I've sinned.
I would like to thank you both for your time and talent
after eight years of listening hereby some treasure.
I would like a deduced.
You've been deduced.
John, I love your view on the world.
The stories you tell about the different jobs you had
in situations you were in.
By the way, my smoking hot wife really likes your voice.
Ah.
Adam, thank you for inventing podcasting,
providing the bi-weekly crisp and perfect sound quality
and making the show so much fun to listen to.
I'm the fun one.
My kids know your intro by heart,
reproducing it every time a new episode starts.
You guys are the best.
The No agenda show truly is the best podcast in the universe.
Now to business.
Message for the first Ukrainian clogs on the ground meetup.
Hear ye, hear ye.
To all farmers, shills, spooks, and members of the Gitmo nations,
you are warmly invited to join us for burgers and beers
as we celebrate the birthday of our favorite former mink farmer, now a dude named Ben.
We all raise a glass to knee high corn to 1,563 days of Russian peace and freedom
and to the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians,
the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians,
all while supporting the Ukrainian economy.
This is the first.
Join us on Saturday, June 6th at 6 o'clock at the Fat Moose in Bilak Tsirqvah in Ukraine.
man, I need a meter purport from this.
That would be great if anyone shows up.
That's awesome.
We look forward to seeing you there.
Please, RSVP, kind regards.
A.d. Farmer, end of message.
And he sent me a very long and beautiful boots on the ground about farming in Ukraine.
That was extremely informative.
And he also said, everything, yes, some drones fly.
Most of them are shot down, the Russian drones.
One of them exploded in one of his fields, a 10 by 10 foot hole, three feet deep.
He says, and yes, some people die, and the cemeteries in Ukraine are unbelievably full,
just people that just thrown bodies on top of one another, it's flags everywhere.
But he also says the front has pretty much been stagnant for weeks.
There's not a lot going on, which makes sense because we haven't heard much.
We haven't heard much going on.
Anyway, that report.
That is a very good report. Let me give you your jingles.
You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, maconies and cheese.
Chatter melted together.
Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
You've got.
Karma.
Linda Lupachan in Castle Rock, Colorado, $200 jobs, Karma.
resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't.
For a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers Inc.com.
Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership
results and impact.
That's ImageMakers Inc.
with a K with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
We've got karma.
And we have one final associate executive producer, Lois Forrestall, Forrestal in Bellingham, Washington, $200.
We did not receive a note from Lois.
No, we did get a note.
We did?
Where's the note?
Yeah, it's a note that says no note.
Oh, but I'm still going to give Lois a double up karma, if you don't mind.
We've got karma.
Karma.
And with that, we thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode one.
1,869 of the best podcast in the universe known as the No Agenda Show.
And again, these are credits that you receive and can use anywhere where Hollywood style credits are recognized.
Thank you again for supporting us, you executive and associate executive producers.
Our formula is this.
We hit people in the mouth.
And I want to thank the rest of our $50 and above supporters, Value for Value,
which includes Mike Duffy from Blenheim, New Zealand, 194, 16.
which is...
That should probably be bumped.
That's right. He's going to be bumped up.
It's a $333.33.33.
New Zealand bucks.
And wants business karma.
The last round works so well.
We've quit our jobs.
Now we're hot dog in full time.
Thanks.
Florida's hot dogs.
The best hot dogs in the...
Flora's hot dogs.
Flora. Flora's hot dogs.
The best hot dogs in the universe.
That's interesting.
Is he a hot dog maker?
He's a hot dog maker.
Send us some product, bro.
You've got karma.
We want product.
Bro.
Bro.
Boob donation from the boob man himself.
Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna,
lover of America and boobs, $80.8.
As always, he says, God bless America and boobs.
Sir Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, Illinois, with a small boob, $60.6.
You can see for yourself how that works.
Along with Les Tarkowski from Kingman, Arizona.
$60 from David Arellanos from Escondido, California.
Steve Bansra, ah, yes, Steve Bansra.
He is our Southwest.
Southwest, I used to love Southwest, but they are now the most expensive airline.
There is.
If you want to go to Nashville, what do you think a round trip to Nashville costs?
Love would probably normally be $69.
$700.
What?
Yes.
And that's not even before you get like, you know, early boarding because they have,
they've changed it now.
You don't have that cool boarding that I like.
Now they have boarding groups.
And you still have to pay extra for your luggage.
It's insane.
You can fly Delta or United for $3.99.
I don't know.
I don't see why people still.
I think people are using up all of their...
Here's what I think happened.
I know what happened.
The CEO change.
Yeah.
The bean counters came in.
They said, let's have everybody use up all of their points and miles at these exorbitant prices.
And then we'll lower it down again.
I think they're just trying to get rid of all those point people.
Because I can't believe that they're paying that kind of money.
Anyway, Steve has nothing to do with the organization, although he flies for them.
And I hear he's a great pilot.
And he says, have some more eggs.
Steve Bansstra, 5933. Thank you, Steve.
Sir Shelfwood, I'm out in the Netherlands, 5986.
That's a 5, 6778 donation.
And I'm picking up the fees.
Keep on keeping on.
He says, he's from Gitmo Lowlands.
Mark Dunford, $58.56.
Sir Commodore Crummy, El Cajon, California, 5798.
James Edmondson, South Plainfield, New Jersey, double nickels on the dime, 5510, same for anonymous Neal from Elm City and North Carolina,
and Dean Roker, also with double nickels on the dime.
Andrew Young, 52, 72, Baroness Monica, Drayton Valley, Alberta, California, 51, and 11 cents.
And she says, boy, the exchange rate on dollar reu, dollar, dollar, is atrocious.
Sorry about that, Baroness, Monica, but thank you for the support.
Viscount, Sir, Economic Hitman.
Tombal, Texas, $50 and one penny to stay out of that 50 group.
And here they are.
Pamela Bradley, Tukumse, Oklahoma.
I'm sure I did that wrong.
Chris Cohen, Austin, Texas.
Jason Gile.
In Holland, we say, Chael, which is the Dutch people will be smiling.
Lake Oswego, Oregon.
Michael Sicora, Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
Noah McDonald, Traverse City, Michigan,
and Scott Lavender, Montgomery, Texas, Patrick Bomer in Amstelfay in the Netherlands.
And he says,
Just for the best podcast from the universe.
Yes, good yes for you and for John, yes.
And our last $50 donor is Dame Rosie Posey.
And she is just saying that she's very glad to hear out each episode.
John's voice is getting stronger.
Yes.
She wrote a cute card.
Thank you.
She has a really pretty handwriting.
And she also wants to put Paul Lincoln, Sir Mama's Boy of the Arkwelders, on the birthday list for May 22nd, and we will take care of all of that.
Thank you. $50 and above.
We never mentioned anyone under 50 for reasons of anonymity, and that is critical, so we don't do that.
But we do see you, and we thank you very much for all of the support that you have given.
I do have an extra karma request I'll take for.
Take care of Sir Bob, and we do break for nights once, Job, and F. Cancer Karma for himself.
and for his family.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
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Pure of purpose right from the start.
Very proud to bring two new orders of the heart into our family,
and in fact they will be knighted momentarily,
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Samuel Montgomery and Steve Slocum,
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Now let's bring these guys up on the podium.
there is my blade. We need to make them official.
If you can take it out of the scabbard there, very nice.
It's a handsome one. I like that one.
Samuel Montgomery and Steve Slocum gentlemen pop up here on the podium
as it is time for you to become official as I am very proud to pronounce the Kate V
as Sir Samuel Montgomery and Sir Steve both knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
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Hey, it's what we have.
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The meetups, the ERECTON, the ERECTN connection, as we just heard earlier on the show.
This is where you can find people who listen to the show, even in Ukraine, everywhere around the world.
We are truly worldwide.
It's an amazing community that you are a part of, and you should solidify that relationship
because this connection will give you protection.
The people who meet at the meetups will be your first responders in any emergency.
And sometimes people send them meter purports.
and I'd love to play one from the Resist We Much meet up in Los Benos.
This is Thur Robertson of Two Sticks at the Resist We Much Meetup, honoring Armed Forces Day.
Sir Montauk here, enjoying delicious pizza and excellent conversation.
In the morning!
All right.
We have a written meetup from Leiden, where the folks met in the Netherlands on the 8th of May.
and John. Ten producers, Met and Leiden.
Thank you for your courage. Zobim
L. Duderachi, Black Knight, Eldudorotchi,
Youp, Andy, Rube, Arno,
Roland, Sebastian, Anita, and
Pedro. Shout out to Yup and Andy for
coming to their first Noah Jenna meetups, says
Baron Rob. Next meetup will be
in Rotterdam on June 26
in Cafe Hachsebluff
pending Meevis approval on
noadena meetups.com. I'm sure she will approve
it. We also have a meetup taking place today.
This is the big one in Indianapolis,
Indiana. The
May the Road Rise to Meet You Meetup.
That is underway as we speak at St. Joseph's Brewery in Public House in Indianapolis.
Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood hosting that, of course.
Next show today on Thursday, Charlotte's Thursday, Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o'clock.
Ed's Tavern, as always, in Charlotte, North Carolina.
For the rest of this month in May, on the 22nd, hello Frenches, Molesung Gairs in France.
Go look at it on Noagena Meetups.com.
We have a dame over there, and she will show you a good.
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Wilmington, Delaware, Los Angeles, California, Hickson, Tennessee, Franklin, Tennessee,
and the 24th, Keyport, New Jersey, Vancouver, British Columbia on the 24th, Squim, Washington
on the 25th, with Mimi attending, and Anchorage, Alaska on May 30th. No Agenda Meetups,
noagentonMeetups.com. Head over there and find one near you. It's very easy to start one
yourself, if you can't find anything, it's a great time. I guarantee you, you will love it,
you will not regret it. Noagenda meetups.com. It's very simple to start one, and always a party.
John's tip of the day is coming up shortly, and we also have some really good end of
show mixes. I'm excited to play those for you. But first, for some reason, for a long time,
we've been doing the ISO selection at this part of the show. And we don't even remember why,
but it's always fun. And I will start since that's how it usually runs. John never wants to go
first. You never want to go first. You notice that? Of course I notice it. Okay. Well, I'll go then.
I love your perspective. You're absolutely right. A little long. Here's another one.
We are good to go, buddy.
Maybe this one.
That was good.
Okay.
And I think this one's the best.
It was quite impressive.
I like that one.
It's okay.
What's you got?
Let's start with a douchebag.
God, I'm a douchebag.
Is that from Family Guy?
Yeah.
That was the vaping episode.
I'm a douchebag.
I thought we should just keep dead as a regular...
High contender.
All right.
Let's go with G. Willickers.
G. Willikers.
G. Willikers. What a great show.
No, rejected. I reject that one out of hands.
Why? You can do better. You can do better.
Top show.
Wow. Top that show, you chumps.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
have a winner and we have john's tip of the day
great advice for you and me just the tip with jcd
and sometimes adam
okay so we get some time to start planting gardens
is it now yep
we're in april may yeah so everybody should go out get a
stirrup ho
we had those in amsterdam
in the red light district.
Aren't they great?
Yeah, fantastic.
What is a...
No, I'm not talking about it.
It's also called a...
There's another name for these things.
They're called...
What's the name?
I got it.
I don't know.
I'm going to get it.
I'm going to get it.
I don't know what a stirrup hoe is.
Look it up.
A stirrup hoe is like a hoe.
Yeah.
Only instead of being a flat surface thing,
it's got a loop and it allows you to...
Oh, put your foot in it and jam it.
in.
No, it's good for,
it is the greatest
weeding tool you can imagine.
Oh.
You can,
it just basically
pulls the weeds out.
It's also called
some other kind of ho,
which is funnier.
I want to get the name,
so hang on.
Well,
we're at the edge of our seats here.
Yeah.
These are available
at
past time
and all the big hardware stores.
Let me find.
in here.
Stirrup ho.
Tally ho.
Hula ho.
Stereop ho.
Yeah.
Hold on.
I'm holding on.
I'm just sitting here waiting,
watching the meters go silent.
I'm sorry.
But I,
you're underprepared.
I closed one of the windows that has it.
It's also called an action ho.
An action ho.
Which is really the more
the Amsterdam's.
It's a show title is what that is.
Action Ho.
Action.
So, yeah.
And Home Depot has them.
The Husky makes a good one of 54 and one would handle action hole with grip.
These are just terrific products for gardeners.
I used to have one years ago.
I forgot all about until Jay and Brennan brought one to the house here.
And they're gardening.
Yeah, they got a big garden in the backyard.
Oh.
And so they're using this thing as she's all jacked up about the action ho.
And I said, yeah, well, there's a lot of punchlines there with that word action hoe.
But it's really technically a stirrup ho.
Everyone should get one there about $25 bucks max.
Go get your action ho, everybody.
That's the tip of the day.
You will only find at noagenda fun.com.
Tip of the day.com.
Aren't you glad you waited?
Aren't she glad? I'm telling you.
I'm telling you. Look it up.
This show is good to the last drop.
I wonder how many people will listen to the tip of the day?
Oh, I'll do an analysis one day.
I'll bet you about half to half the maybe half.
No, no, 20%.
20%, you think we'd fall off that much?
For tip of the day, yeah.
I think so.
Most podcasts fall off pretty substantially.
after a while.
But there's always that group
that just hangs in there all the way.
And they're the ones.
Those are the good guys.
Yeah, the good, of course.
And they learn about all the fun stuff
that everybody else misses.
Your loss.
End of show mixes from Just Baker and MVP.
Love those guys.
They're prompting away.
They're doing good things now.
It's, I mean, it gets better every single time.
End of show.
Let's see.
After the show, we have the millennial media
offensive coming up with Hans von Spankowski. Oh yeah. That makes total sense. Sounds like those guys.
And we will return on Thursday. We hope you join us. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill
country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Refinery Row. I'm John C. DeVorak. And please remember us at no agenda donations.com.
Until Thursday, adios, mofoza, hooey, hooey, and size.
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