No Agenda - 1879 - "Grace and Assurance"

Episode Date: June 21, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1879 - "Grace and Assurance" Grace and Assurance Executive Producers: Sir Scovee, Grand Duke of the Piedmont Sir Your Honest Mechanic (Easley, SC) Sir-Tanly The Weather Champ Manu...ka Gold Sir Optimus Michael Mohrbutter Lane Lamoreaux Associate Executive Producers: Dude Named Jeff Troy Funderburk (switcheroo from Dame Mama Thunder) La Jolla Salt Corporation Eli the Coffee Guy Dame Cindy of the Tito's (switcheroo from Indy NA Meetup) Linda Lupatkin — Imagemakers Ink Dakotah Walker Dan the Man (switcheroo from Amy Lynn) Knights and Dames: Dakotah Walker > Sir Dakotah Walker Sir Scovee > Grand Duke Order of the Heart: Sir Scovee Sir Your Honest Mechanic End of Show Mixes: Cam (Gratuitous Book of Knowledge) MVP (Donation Yelling) Molly Berry (Geopolitical Doo-wop) Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman ShowNotes Archive 1867.noagendanotes.com No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Art By: Dan OBGYN4 Last Modified 06/21/2026 16:36:31 by Freedom Controller  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The guy's out of control. He's insane. Adam Curry. John C. DeVorey DeVorey. It's Sunday, June 21st, 2026. This is your award-winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1879. This is no agenda. Painting Houston Orange and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA, region number six in the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we wishing everybody a happy Father's Day, at least in United States. I'm John C. DeBorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I think it's Father's Day Everywhere, isn't it? Not that I know what. It's Father's Day
Starting point is 00:00:41 in Holland. Is it? Yeah. Is it in Canada? Canada never has anything the same day. No, I think it's only Mother's Day that is different in different countries for some reason. Thanksgiving is totally different. Well, yeah, because
Starting point is 00:00:58 you know, we have our own thing. They do have one in Canada, but it's like the first, I believe. Yeah, yes, but I think Father's Day is the same everywhere. Pretty sure. Pretty sure. Pretty sure. Well, that's the robot. Let's get off to a rousing start. Okay. All right. Book of Knowledge, is Father's Day celebrated on the same day around the world? All right. We're off to a start with the Book of Knowledge with a question that cannot stump him. According to the book of knowledge, Father's Day is not on the same day in every country. Oh no! Oh no! The third Sunday of June, today, June 21st, is observed in some 86 countries from the United States and the UK to India, Japan and Mexico.
Starting point is 00:01:46 But Catholic Europe honours fathers on March 19th. The Feast of St. Joseph. The Southern Hemisphere waits until spring. Germany ties the day to ascension. No. No, no, no. are you right? When you're right, you're right. Okay, well, happy Father's Day, except for you Germans. Except you Germans. And Catholic, you don't care. You don't care about your dad's. The fatherland of all places.
Starting point is 00:02:13 What is Catholic Europe anyway? I'm not so sure I know where Catholic Europe is. I think it means all the countries that are, except for the pagans in Switzerland. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, and the Lutherans in Holland. I don't know if there's a lot of Lutherans in Holland. Are you kidding? There's nothing left in Holland. All the churches are Airbnbs and we work. There's not much going on in that regard.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Anyway, a little bit of sports ball to kick it off, everybody. Go Dutch. Go Orange. Five to one against Sweden. I got to tell you, I got the World Cup fever. I got the fever. Did you watch the game? Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I watched the. You watched the whole game? The whole game. I did. Wow. Yeah. Did you know their song? Everyone loves their song.
Starting point is 00:03:04 The Dutch song. What is it? Let's go Dutch. Here we go. We go. From side to side to side. To the left. to the left
Starting point is 00:03:29 and to the right once again the Dutch can't help it they are just a hum-papa country Well they got that from the Germans Yeah of course There are of Dutch blood It's even in their
Starting point is 00:03:42 In their national anthem Am I of German blood That's in the And they are Of course they are So are the English Everyone's from German blood But somehow the Dutch
Starting point is 00:03:53 Celebrate Father's Day On the regular normal day Is 86 countries Because it's not Catholic Exactly. Oh, man. So I got all the, I got all the morning shows. I believe you have some analysis clips of the Iran deal. That deal falling apart once again, as predicted on this show. Let's start with, now, is this SS all the way or is it just the? I'm sorry, S-F all the way?
Starting point is 00:04:25 S S S, you know, SS. Oh, yeah, it's your buddy. Dachuketash. Yeah. You spotted it. All right, but there's one here that's Simon. There's one here. It says Iran fail and NPR.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Is that the first one? The one, okay, if we're going to play these, then we start with the overall one, which is the no. No, the no. Iran failed lean on as NPR. The preliminary agreement, President Trump signed Wednesday with Iran. Wait, what? What? You're playing Iran-Fail Lennon as NPR?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yes. Iran-fail, Lenon, SS, NPR. Okay. Is that incorrect? Well, you have this one. You have this one. Iran's military said today. That's it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Okay. That was the one I wanted to play. Oh, I'm sure that's Iran-fail, right? The reason I want to play that first is because it's an overview. Yeah, okay. Okay. You need to work on the label. No, it's my first.
Starting point is 00:05:25 fault. Iran's military said today will close the straight of Hormuz again because of Israel's continued attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon. NPR's Jane Aram has more. Iran is now saying that it was Washington's job to ensure Israel adhered to that ceasefire and it calls it a violation of the understanding that fighting is still going on. They say that violation, those ceasefire violations call the entire agreement between the U.S. and Iran, including the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, into question. That's after Israeli attacks Friday and Saturday, mostly southern Lebanon, where Israeli forces have invaded and they're trying to take more territory. Hezbollah is fighting back there, so not much of a ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Pakistani officials who have been mediating the talks between U.S. and Iran on ending the war, along with Carter, say the negotiations will resume tomorrow in Switzerland. This is quite annoying of what Israel is doing. And it's kind of unclear. I mean, there's no, I couldn't find any real reporting on what's going on between Israel. Is Lebanon still lobbing bombs in? I mean, all I hear is, oh, they're trying to capture more territory. Is that true? I don't get this very little analysis other than, hey, they're screwing up the deal. That's what it's, I'm not going to argue that, but there was some analysis in these clips, which we'll play, which is that we'll start with the analysis SSNPR, which is Israel anal analysis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:05 So we're leaving Leonon SS? Well, we can play that first if you want because that's pre-analysis. And I presume Leonon is Lebanon. I'm just guessing. Yeah, no, that should be played last night. Oh, that's what it means. Thank you. you're better at this than I am.
Starting point is 00:07:23 All right, here we go. Israel, who went to war with Iran alongside the U.S., has been highly critical of the framework for a potential deal between Iran and the U.S. This has not been received well in the White House where President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance used uncharacteristically tough language this week against the U.S. ally.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And peers, Ron Elvin, joins us. Ron, thanks for being with us. Good to be with you, Scott. President Trump used what I'll call it. choice were. Who is that guy? Good to be with you, Scott. It's wonderful. You know, okay, so I looked into this guy. Yeah, because he's got a... He's got pipes. Because he's always on, and he's the
Starting point is 00:07:59 final arbiter. He's the last word. Yeah. Bring him on. So I looked him up. He's a graduate of, I think it's Chicago, but he's Stanford and Cal Berkeley. Yeah. He's got, he's a, he's a teaches at a lot of the
Starting point is 00:08:15 spook schools. And, and, but he doesn't seem to be a spook. But maybe he is. Good to be with you, Scott. But his background is good enough that I think he can do this job and he's not like a phony. Okay. Well, one thing's for sure. You've got some pipes on him.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Join us around. Thanks for being with us. Thank you, Scott. Good to be with you, Scott. President Trump used some what I'll call choice words in an interview this week. Choice words. Why don't you just use the words? Whenever he says shit whole country, you have no problem saying it.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Why don't you just use the words, Scott? talking about Prime Minister Netanyahu's decision to launch. Oh, stop a second. I was thinking about this. So there's a concern, of course, that the FCC is going to crack down on cussing on the air, right? Is there? So what if you play a clip of Trump, the president of the United States, cussing up a storm, the choice words in this case? You just use that clip.
Starting point is 00:09:12 What would the FCC do? Would they bust you? Or would they bust the president? Well, what would happen? Well, if this was over the air and not a podcast, and if they really were enforcing that, which to my knowledge, they've never enforced the seven dirty words ever. They moan about it. Yeah, they moan about it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But you remember that every news outlet was going, shithole country and this and that and drop an F bomb sometimes. Well, that's cable. No, I haven't heard any F bombs. But when we were on MTV, and somehow the FCC, they were afraid of the FCC, although I don't think the FCC don't regulate cable, do they? They don't.
Starting point is 00:09:55 It was the cable operators who put the fear of God into everybody. Oh, you better not do anything nasty before 10 p.m. But if it was in the clip, like in a video clip, MTV will get in trouble, not Madonna or whoever. So, yeah, of course it would be the broadcaster. Yeah, but it's the president of the United States. So you're saying that's newsworthy? No, is that newsworthy or not?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Doesn't the President Trump, Trump, no pun intended, Trump the FCC? I don't know. This is a question I've not pondered, and I think we don't need to do it here either. Okay, we're done. President Trump used some what I'll call choice words in an interview this week, talking about Prime Minister Netanyahu's decision to launch strikes on Beirut, right before the MOU was agreed to. Words we cannot play on the air.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Let's just say that he questioned the Israeli prime minister's judgment. Then Vice President J.D. Vance was asked during an interview with the New York Times whether he thought Israel has incentives for the agreement not to go through. And this is what the vice president posed to Israeli critics. What is your exact proposal? And, you know, you're a country of nine million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national. security problem that you have? I mean, how come these guys aren't dead yet? Why has Mossad not assassinated them? Doesn't everybody know that Israel controls these guys, controls all of Congress?
Starting point is 00:11:25 What is happening here? I'm freaking out. What is this kind of rhetoric? There's so much at stake here, Scott. There's the fragile ceasefire that may or may not be holding for the moment, as we just heard from Jane Rafe. Then there's the fate of the MOU between the U.S. and Iran. There's at least a short-term chance for peace in the region, and then there's the future of the relationship between the U.S. and Israel that's been so important to both for almost 80 years. So two months ago, the current war began with coordinated attacks by the U.S. and Israel on Iran and its ally, Hezbollah, in Lebanon. Now the Trump administration wants to dial back, make a deal, or at least start to make one, so the world oil market can recover and stop endangering the U.S. economy
Starting point is 00:12:11 and the world economy, but Israel still sees itself fighting a threat at its doorstep from Hezbollah. So I had a brief conversation with Sir Brian of London. He's in Tel Aviv. And he's like, you guys don't understand. It says, four of our soldiers got killed by Hezbollah. So we got a strike back. I'm like, well, who started? I don't know who started. Did they fire first? I mean, again, there's just so little analysis of what's really going on there. But the president does not seem to be happy nor the vice president with this. No, because they're...
Starting point is 00:12:47 They're ruining the deal. Yeah, they want to get the straits open to keep their economy, world economy. We can handle no oil. We can make it ourselves, but it's a bad look. It's a bad look. You can't be a laggard. But the world, if the world economy has issues,
Starting point is 00:13:05 we have issues. Yeah. The things is interconnected. It's a bad look, too. It's like we got a deal. It's a bad look. It's a bad look. Come on, Netanyahu, it's a bad look.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Netanyahu's got to go. This guy's been in too long. Well, it's not just him. We've got members of his own cabinet saying, this is a bad deal. And from what I hear from my friends' boots on the ground, they're like, no, no, no, this is about us. Hmm. What do you mean? It's about us.
Starting point is 00:13:35 About Israel. Like, we're being, our soldiers are being killed. My son's going to war. It has to fight against Hezbollah. We have to fight back. That's the messages I'm hearing. Yeah, but aren't the soldiers that were killed, the Israeli soldiers, weren't they killed in Lebanon? This is what I don't know. We have no clue. There's no one is, where's the boots on the ground from the news media? The news media stinks. When the agreement took sent at the ceasefire and opened the Strait of Hormuz was announced, President Trump held it as a success. but it is being questioned by many critics at home, most notably some members of his own party.
Starting point is 00:14:13 What can you tell us? Conservative hardline Republicans are saying that this deal seems, if it is a deal, seems to squander the military successes of the past two months in exchange for little or nothing beyond a return to where things stood in February when ships were flowing through the Strait of Hormuz. As for nuclear weapons, Iran is apparently only required to say that. they won't develop them, ever, and to have more negotiations on the subject. And in exchange, the U.S. is offered to lift sanctions on Iran and make available some of Iran's financial assets that have been frozen, and even set up a fund to rebuild what Iran lost in the recent fighting.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So some of these Republicans who object have been doubters for a while. Others, may have been political, let's say, rivals of the president at one time. Others had political scores to settle with Trump. But then you have some. such loyalists as Roger Wicker, Mississippi, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. These people seem genuinely surprised and distressed at this turn of events. A wicker from one says that the Iranians will use every penny that they get from this new arrangement to further their ultimate goals, which are death to America, death to Israel. And yet, Trump has lumped all these Republican critics together and dismissed them as, quote, fools.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Hmm. Okay. That was actually not bad, his analysis there. No. That's pretty good. And everybody is, you know, piling on in terms of the Republicans. Oh, yeah. Almost everybody. I have some clips coming up. Almost everybody. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. I think this might, I think this will be, we got this, there's one more analysis clip and then I think the Lebanon wrap. The negotiations, the announcement of the agreement all occurred while the president was in France for the G7. And because the president has so much global responsibility is under unrelenting. pressure at all times. A lot of observers noted, he looked and sounded tired. The Wednesday news conference was especially... Dude. He looked tired. Oh, no. He's 80. He looked tired. Oh, this is no good.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You know, I was looking at a lot of those clips. And he didn't look that tired. I didn't look that tired. Compared to Biden. Well, but I've seen Trump look tired. He didn't look that tired. Yeah, he gets tired when you travel overseas and you got to, you know, you lose your sleep rhythm and you got to... You got to... of sleep on the seven four of course he's got a big bed in there but he's probably busy he's he doesn't get a lot of sleep as it is no it's like okay but the insinuation here from scott shimon is she's old and she's tired he looked and sounded tired the wednesday news conference was especially striking trump was rambling often off topic lacking his usual bravado what what just because he
Starting point is 00:16:57 talked about granite the granite was fantastic but it was hard not to know the contrast with French President Emmanuel Macron, who was after all 32 years younger and hosted the summit with grace and assurance. Grace and assurance. Boy, pomp and circumstance has been bumped for grace and assurance. Where did this come in? That just was galling to hear that. Grace and assurance. I'm writing that down. Baby. Sounds like two sisters. You cooked that dinner with grace and assurance. who was younger and hosted the summit with gracious and assurance. There was a little spat over a picture to be taken with the Italian Prime Minister, George Maloney.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Trump said she'd begged him to take a picture with her. She took strong exception to that. I'd take exception! Now the Italian foreign minister has canceled a trip to the U.S. And then Scott, at the end of the conference, when the G7 leaders posed for their usual class picture after the meeting, Trump stood as a caucus of one, while the others conferred and engaged with each other. Oh. Okay, so I was, I was looking for that.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He's all alone in the school yard. So there was a moment at the end where everybody kind of, they took a, it was either before or after the group shot. They all scattered around and they were all yakking with each other. And Trump was not yakking with anybody. So for the moment that, which was not unusual for this entire event, him to be wandering around by himself and then engaging with him. with one person or another, just, you know, incidentally.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I just thought it was, that commentary was taken from a photo op, showing Trump standing there kind of, it was a funny picture. I finally tracked it down. But we've done that with Zelensky, where he's looking like a little lost schoolboy. Yeah, you can do that with anybody and just follow them along enough and they're going to be by themselves for the minute. Take a shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Look at this poor guy. That's perfect. that was, I thought that was inaccurate, an inaccurate description of things. Or, or it was mean. Oh, oh, he's sleepy and he's all alone. The preliminary agreement, President Trump signed Wednesday with Iran explicitly includes Lebanon in the ceasefire, but as you've reported, it hasn't really been fully enforced. Where does that leave the wider agreement with Iran? Well, as we've seen, Israel believes it's not bound by that wider agreement, which calls for ensuring Lebanon's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Starting point is 00:19:34 In fact, defense minister Israel Katz said the Israeli military is destroying Lebanese border villages, including infrastructure, making it impossible for 200,000 residents to return. And Israeli troops are trying to take a strategic Hezbollah position deeper into Lebanon. Hezbollah has been attacking Israeli tanks and troops to prevent that advance. Earlier this week, you were in Napatia, still a center of fighting, much life like there. There is an awful lot of destruction, including downtown in the historic Ottoman era market, hundreds of years old. All of that was heavily damaged. We met one of the town residents, Najib Ayad, a little further into the city.
Starting point is 00:20:19 He was returning briefly to see the damage to his apartment. So a part of the building had collapsed, and there was so much rough. It was difficult to get through the door even. There was the sound of artillery in the distance. You could see smoke rising. And inside, all the glass had been blown out, including the balcony doors. He's saying, you see that castle?
Starting point is 00:20:40 See what it looks like? He says the Israelis are still there. And from his balcony, you can see the Beaufort Castle. It's a Crusader-era fortress on a strategic hill that's now occupied by Israeli forces. So he said that as long as Israeli forces are that close, he could never move back. Yeah, to me it feels like Netanyahu has to have some kind of conflict going because he has elections coming up and he needs to be a wartime president. Yeah, I think this is like a George Bush phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, otherwise he gets kicked out. I mean, that just seems obvious. I remember there won election that George Bush ran for re-election, and that's when they had the posters of the various colors that's showing the possibility of a terrorist attack, and there was the red and the yellow alert and the green alert, and they had them at the airports. Yeah, I remember, of course.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And they print, and soon it's just, just before the election, everybody had, they went to orange alert. And they made a big fuss about going to orange alert, and they printed up all these posters with orange alert. Yeah, the posters, but there was no interchangeable color. They were just orange. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And they stayed orange forever. They were permanently orange. You couldn't put a little green sticker over them. It was all orange. Yeah. This doesn't feel very good. Well, from the morning shows, I have two guests. The first one is Susan Rice.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Gosh, she's still around. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The twerp. And she's there to sow propaganda and to, to make Obama look good, of course, because she was part of that original JCPOA. So a couple of clips from her, and then the surprise guest, or not a surprise guest, but with surprise information. You called this memorandum of an understanding a jaw-dropping horrific surrender.
Starting point is 00:22:40 With reparations. So what? Reparations. She's already going straight for reparations. Is it so egregious? It's egregious, John, because so many concessions. were granted up front in this flimsy two-page memorandum of understanding that wouldn't normally and shouldn't have been granted until after there was not only a fully comprehensive deal to at least deal with their nuclear program, but also that those provisions that were negotiated had been agreed. So let me just explain to you some of the things that were conceded up front. as the secretary just acknowledged Iran as of the signing of the agreement
Starting point is 00:23:23 so on Thursday is now able to sell all of its oil and all of its oil products on the market unimpeded. Well, that's a good thing for the world. Okay. Yeah. That's kind of what we want.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Everybody wants that. She's a very, very annoying person. The market unimpeded and use that money to rebuild itself. And use the banking system. And use the banking system. Under the Obama nuclear deal, they couldn't have relief from oil sanctions. They didn't need the banking system. We gave him cash.
Starting point is 00:23:55 He had pallets of cash. Follettles of cash. Fully implemented, not just preliminarily agreed. Secondly, they get access to tens of billions of dollars of frozen assets in the very near term, within the next 60 days, contingent only upon the memorandum of understanding this flimsy two-page document. being implemented. That means... Repeat after me.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Flimsy two-page document. Flimsy, it's so flimsy. The paper was just like rice paper. You're using like onion skin. So this is already not true because, first of all, General Patton on the down low, he's the one controlling it. And we're not giving them all of their money back. It's drips and drabs and drabs when we feel it's appropriate.
Starting point is 00:24:42 But I guess that's not reflected in the flimsy two-page document. on the memorandum of understanding this flimsy two-page document being implemented. That means essentially once they've opened the straight, they get all the access to their frozen assets without any constraint on how they spend it. In the Obama era deal, they could only spend those frozen assets on humanitarian things, food and medicine. Now they can use it to fund their terrorist proxies. Ah, yes, that's what they will do because they like bombs on their heads. And now she... By the way, and that there wasn't any enforcement
Starting point is 00:25:17 angle to the Obama deal that they could enforce what she said. No, there was. It was bull crap. She's just lying. But it wasn't a flimsy two-page document. It was hundreds of pages of carefully crafted diplomatic language. You know, the last newsletter I sent out, which I discussed some of the funny aspects of this, which is both the Council on Foreign Relations and Chatham House.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah. Well, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. Of the global, globalists, the globalists, let's just say. They pretty much expressed the exact same thing. In fact, the Chatham House called this a surrender. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Or we lost, we lost the war. Trump. Trump lost. We did. Trump lost the war. Trump lost. The war of choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And it's all like all part of this, let's you know we got to they're clawing back they're trying to claw back territory they're trying to claw back their system like trump tried it the system yeah this is which has been yeah trump is ruining their system yes and so they're trying to claw it back in the hearts of minds and they're doing with grace and assurance Iran thirdly will now be able after 60 days to charge fees for the transit of ships through the straight before moose This is a great reading of the document. So what she's saying is after 60 days, they can go right back to charging tolls.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But that's not really from what I read. No, it doesn't say that at all. No, it's an extrapolation. But if after 60 days. Of things going south. Yes. So it's like, okay. So it's pre-assumed that things are going to go south.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Her analysis is based on presumption. Yes. They could never have done before. They get $300 billion from the United States and our golf partners. No. Well, actually, Jonathan Carl, I'm going to give him props. He says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But she parades that with grace and assurance.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Billion dollars from the United States and our golf partners. Now, the administration says once a deal is done. None of that's going to come from the United States. That's not what the agreement says. It says the United States with our golf partners will insure. that they get that money. No, that's not. I read the agreement. I don't think it says,
Starting point is 00:27:45 hey, us and our golf partners will assure you get that money. No, no, no, no. There will be a fund. When there's a final deal. And then two other things. When the deal is done, they say all sanctions against
Starting point is 00:28:01 Iran, bilateral and multilateral will be lifted. Under the Obama deal, after they had fully implemented everything, It was only the nuclear-related sanctions that were lifted. And fine. One last point. The other crazy thing about this memorandum of understanding that sets us back enormously is that we commit to withdraw U.S. military forces from the vicinity of Iran. That means our base is in the Gulf.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Are we walking away from the Middle East as a result of this deal? The administration would say no, and they would say that those frozen assets, although I know exactly what it says, the memorandum of understanding, they say there has to be progress on the nuclear talks first. Right, exactly. But she's, Ha ha ha ha ha. Iran won this war, people. Most of our allies in the region seem to welcome this because it meant an end to the war. Isn't a weak peace agreement better than a resumption of a war, which I know you opposed from this story? I opposed this war because it was a stupid war. And it was obvious that when you
Starting point is 00:29:07 wage a stupid war that every prior president had the wisdom to avoid that you were going to end up with either bad outcomes or worse outcomes. This is a great upside down analysis she has. You can say every other president avoided the war because it wouldn't work or you could say, well, maybe it was time to do something. She's very convinced. She has a lot of conviction. She's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:29:34 She has conviction. It ends what you saw as a stupid war. It ends a stupid war. Why is she even on? Well, that's a good question. Why is she even booked? Who's the booker? Well, she is Obama.
Starting point is 00:29:47 This is the Obama. That makes sense. This is the Obama camp talking here. This is a very bad outcome. I obviously think we shouldn't have been in this war in the first place because it was obvious for decades that the only way to resolve this problem is through diplomacy. No, lady. And also, why is she using war of choice?
Starting point is 00:30:08 She's saying stupid war. Yeah, she's making a mistake. She's supposed to say war of choice. By the way, one of the funniest talking points that the Chatham House had is that they call it the memorandum of lack of understanding. Oh, what is British understatement. They're so funny. Now we're back to diplomacy with a far weaker hand.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yes, their military has been degraded. But Iran is now figured out. they can use the Strait of Hormuz to hold us in the global economy hostage. And they were too stupid to figure that out before. Yeah, I know. She's, okay, one more because this is the clip about Israel. Here, let's take a look at just what J.D. Vance said last week. Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And he happens to be the head of state of the world's superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world. First of all, is that an accurate description of the state affairs? It's an extraordinary statement. He said Trump is the only head of state sympathetic to the nation of Israel, that the United States is the only powerful ally that Israel has in the entire world. I'd say that's pretty much correct at this point in time. I agree with you. This is absolutely correct.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Is that true? You know, I think that was an extraordinary statement. Extraordinary. Extraordinary. Extraordinary. I think that was an extraordinary statement. And I'm sure it's shocked a lot of people, particularly in Israel.
Starting point is 00:31:47 But, you know, one of the outcomes of this is, you know, as President, as Prime Minister Netanyahu has himself publicly acknowledged on many occasions, he has tried to persuade many prior presidents. to engage in war with Israel against Iran, and promising that that would result in regime change and an end to Iran posing any threat. This is her version of BB made us do it. What we've got as a result of that war,
Starting point is 00:32:17 which President Trump was the first to take the bait on. Take the bait. Take the bait. Take the bait, the dummy. ...of its geopolitical stature in the region, not militarily, conventionally in the short term, but its nuclear program is fully intact. There is nothing in that agreement that requires that the nuclear material, the dust, as the president likes to call it, will be removed from Iran. It will stay there and stay in place.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But the Israelis have suffered the most because now, you know, this administration, if you take the president and the vice president's words, has basically said to Israel, your concerns are not ours. Yeah, that's exactly what they're saying. And rightly so at this point. So then we have on CBS with Margaret Lindsay Graham. And I know normally I was groaning to like, oh, Lindsay Graham. But he is so stupid. I think he basically explains the whole plan in quite some detail. And I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Do you think he's stupid because he gave up the ghost? Or why do you think he's stupid in this case? Well, first, let's- I mean, we both think he's kind of. dumb, but in this case, what did he do? Well, first, let's start off with the typical Lindsay Graham opener of the interview. There's a lot that still hasn't been figured out here
Starting point is 00:33:39 in this deal. But you wrote nine days ago, the idea of a U.S. plan with partners to create a fund of at least $300 billion. This is 0.6 in the memorandum is tone-deaf, and it's akin to a Marshall plan for Germany with the Nazis still in charge. See, this is See, this is where Lindsay started a day or two ago,
Starting point is 00:34:01 and right away he starts changing his tunes. I caught my attention. Why did you change your position, and now you support it? Can you stop the clip for a second? Yeah. The reason, you remember, it was probably when we did the last show at that, there was some moment, and I think we maybe even played the clip of it. Or you may have had it.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I don't remember having it, but it was Trump. somebody commenting to Trump about these Republicans who are bitching and moaning like Cruz and the rest of them. And somebody said to Trump, Lindsay Graham has made some criticism of what you're doing there. And then Trump said something like, oh, what? Well, I'm going to have to talk to him about that. And he made some assertion that. Yeah, I do remember that clip. Yes. That he was talking out of class. And so it's possible that he wrote that one thing. That's what became the comment that was asked of Trump. and then Trump's response resulted in what we're here going to hear now. I think you're correct.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Because before I thought the money was coming from the West. If the West funds Iran, I think that would be a Marshall Plan with a Nazi still in charge for Germany. If the plan envisions the Sunni Arabs. Yeah, if the Sunni Arabs do it. Can you imagine if Saudi Arabia Qatar and the United Arab Emirates invest $300 billion, in Iran. That would tell me that Iran has changed. To all the experts out there, do you think Saudi Arabia
Starting point is 00:35:34 Qatar and the United Arab Emirates are going to invest in Iran with a theocracy bent on destroying Sunni Islam? So think it through. If the money comes from the Sunni Arab world, I hope it happens. It would mean that the Sunni Arabs believe that Iran
Starting point is 00:35:50 has changed to the point they want to be a business partner. I pray that happens. I doubt if it will. You see, Lindsay Graham is not smart enough to think of it that way. This is the talk he got. Hey, man, shut up. Don't you see what's happening here?
Starting point is 00:36:06 Because Saudi Arabia and Iran, they've been at war in, you know, by proxy in Yemen for as long as this show has been going on. That's true. You know, like bombing all of the Yemenis. Back and forth. Because, you know, one Arab does not equal the other Arab. It's Sunni versus Shia.
Starting point is 00:36:25 This is poorly understood in the West. Well, but it's also not, the Iranians are not Arabs. I'm sorry, yes, correct. But we're talking about the IRGC and the leadership. So when I hear this, I immediately knew, oh, wait a minute. This has got to be with the Abraham Accords, because this is, this is Trump's signature move. And no wonder Israel hates this. His idea.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Oh, Israel cannot like what's going to happen. His whole idea is. he pulls it off. Well, I think Lindsay Graham is lifting a little tip of the veil to explain, just the tip. With Lindsay, it's always just the tip, to explain what the plan is here. And the plan is, funny enough, actually based on Iran not adhering to the MOU and the ceasefire. Well, I want to ask about some of the criticism of the agreement from your fellow Republican colleagues. Take a listen. if we give billions of dollars to Iran, that money will be used to murder Americans. And so I don't believe we should do.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So Ted Cruz, who I think is a smart guy, did he really think that, did he really buy into the propaganda that America was somehow going to give this $300 billion? Is he that stupid? Is it possible that Ted Cruz was given a role? Hmm. Oh, the heel. Ah, I love this. very possible. To Iran, that money will be... To smoke out the other douchebags.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That would be possible. Maybe. Because Trues is not dumb. Used to murder Americans. And so I don't believe we should do that. They'll use the money that is being released to rebuild their ballistic missile arsenal
Starting point is 00:38:13 and begin to enrich again. And that's going to be a continuing danger. Even though it's not really discussed in these clips, there is a difference between ballistic missiles and intercontinental ballistic missiles, just as a side note. That money... Ballistic missile can be a short, just a little...
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, could be like a rocket, a little rocket that goes to Israel. That's not intercontinental. It's going to be a continuing danger. That money, Brooke, we know, is not going to go to build new hospitals or daycares. It's going to go to replenish their drone stockpiles, their missiles, to support terrorists like Hezbollah and Hamas. We have 13 Americans at. Mind reading.
Starting point is 00:38:52 anywhere from $25 to $100 million in munitions. And it turns out we've lost the credible threat of attacking the reason. There's a lot of stuff in there. It's bad. All of those Republicans are seriously doubting the president here, Senator Graham. Do you agree with their concerns? No, I don't. We're not giving any money to Iran that can change.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Wow, yeah. This is so not Lindsey Graham. No, I don't. No. He's, come on. We're not giving any money to Iran that can change the course of history to try diplomacy. Is the MOU problematic? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I'd rather try diplomacy than take it off the table. The money Iran gets is not going to change the future of Iran. It's not enough to reconstruct the country. If you don't have a diplomatic path through the MOU, then you have to go to war or some other form of coercion. Let's try this. Let's try a diplomatic solution. Now, this is where I think he starts to unveil the plan. And it's a violent plan, but it is a plan.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I think it's going to fail. What happens next? I spent four and a half hours with President Trump Friday. Uh-oh. Oh, this is good. I've been giving you a borderline clip of the day already. Oh, I will accept your borderline clip of the day. I can see this coming.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh, yeah. And so he got the full playbook. And I think because... Yeah, four hours worth of lectures. No one gets four hours with Trump. Melania doesn't. No one gets four hours with Trump. So he got, yeah, he got the full lowdown.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And now Lindsey Graham is going to lay this out. I think the exact plan. And of course, everyone's like, oh, Lindsay Graham's stupid. And he may be. But I think he's telling us what's going to happen. I think it's going to fail. What happens next? I spent four and a half hours with President Trump Friday.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Here's what I think will happen next. If this deal fails, President Trump is going to take the Strait of Hormuz over by force. The United States will control the Strait of Hormuz. We'll charge a fee for all those who go through to pay for the operation. And we're going to expand the Abraham Accords in calendar year 2026. We're going to get Saudi Arabia joined the Abraham Accords. This is the big statesman, Senator Lindsey Graham, who will also. all of a sudden is like, we're going to do this, we're going to get the Abraham Accords,
Starting point is 00:41:26 we're going to charge everybody for the Straits of Hormuz. Yeah, this is hardly, it's not presented as speculation. No. I mean, it's not, you can tell the difference between when somebody's telling you something they think, here's some possibilities, and you usually have a few different ones. But when you have this self-assured, one, two, three, this is what's going to happen. This is somebody else's talking, not you. This is the plan.
Starting point is 00:41:52 This is it. And Iran... I think you nailed it. Yeah. Iran has a slim chance, a slim chance if they say, okay, we're going to play ball. But the idea is we need... And we know what they won't play ball. So what he's saying is what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:42:05 We need to get Saudi Arabia in the Arab Accords. And Israel doesn't like any of that, but they're going to have to just do it. So we're going to get Saudi Arabia because they have Medina and Mecca. And, you know, they're the center. They're the center of everything. Not Iran. You can't leave them out. No, we need those guys in the deal.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And this is what Trump is going for. It is, it's balzy. 2026, we're going to get Saudi Arabia joined the Abraham Accords, which is the biggest change in 5,000 years in the Mideast. And if Iran contest control of the Strait of Hormuz by the United States will obliterate them. So to all the people listening, if this diplomatic effort fails, president, president, Trump is going to take the straight of Hormoz. We're going to run it. We're going to try to get Saudi Arabia to join the Abraham, of course,
Starting point is 00:42:57 in the Arab-Israeli conflict in 2026. And if Iran continues to attack Israel and Lebanon, the new policy will be will hit Iran. So to the Iranians, if you're listening. When you use Hezbollah to attack Israel, I think the new policy will be we will attack Iran. I'm not so sure about that part. But this last clip, he just really is.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It's all laid out. And of course, it's all Lindsay's idea, as you know. You have just laid out how you could turn what you think is a flawed document into an opportunity. Because the great strategist, Lindsay Graham, yes. I took this flimsy two-page document. I'd turn it into a strategy to solve everything in the Middle East. But you're also suggesting there that you can get Benjamin Netanyahu or whoever is the next prime minister of Israel to recognize a Palestinian state, which is the price of normalization with Saudi Arabia. How could you do that on the break of an election? Well, for about two years, Margaret, in case you missed this, I went to Riyadh and Jerusalem working on normalization with President Biden.
Starting point is 00:44:04 We're going to announce a framework to have Saudi joined Abraham Accords and at the end of October in 2023. Iran attacked on October the 7th. That is an interesting timeline. So they were close, supposedly, to getting the Abraham Accords or something like it, right? And what did he say? October 3rd? And then October 7th, which, and remember, this whole October 7th, as horrible as it was, was a security lapse unparalleled in all of Israeli history. and we heard nothing but people saying, hey, man, they let that happen. So if you're BB Netanyahu and you don't want these Abraham Accords,
Starting point is 00:44:55 you might let something happen. I'm not accusing anybody, but it seems... It's a valid thesis. Abraham Accords. And at the end of October in 2023, Iran attacked on October the 7th. That created a real problem. The Arab world is very upset about Gaza and everybody in Israel is very upset about October 7th. But we're going to pick up where we left off.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And Donald Trump is going to empower me and others to jumpstart an effort to get Saudi to join Israel. There will be accommodations made by Saudi and Israel to Saudi and Israel. You have no better friend than Donald Trump. To Bevi, Donald Trump stood by you when other people wouldn't. I'm not asking you to do anything to jeopardize. the future of Israel's security, but I'm asking you to be open to expanding the Abram Accords and finding a solution to Palestinians that are good for Israel and, quite frankly, good for the world to Saudi Arabia. Now is the time to open negotiations yet again for you to expand the Abraham
Starting point is 00:46:03 Accords, for you to join. I think this is going to happen in 2026, and it can't happen until Iran's in a box. If we get a deal, if we get a deal, Iran. will be in a box. If we don't get a deal, Iran will be in a box. To Lebanon, to the people in Lebanon, help is on the way. Has Blas been terrorizing your country for a long time? That's about the end.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I think that's the whole plan. Right there. Thank you, Lindsay. And we know what to look for. Super, super easy to see. Like, okay, listen Iran, we're going to let you, we give you 60 days and either you do it our way and then Saudi Arabia, come on, we got these guys
Starting point is 00:46:44 in a box. You don't want to play? Okay. Then we'll take it all over. With another war of choice. Another war of choice. Another war of choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Well, I think we did the whole... We solved, we analyzed it better than anyone. Yeah, I think we're pretty good at it. Well, we nailed it. Well, we can pat ourselves on the back in 60 days. We'll see. We'll see. But it seems, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I mean, we really don't know, obviously. Anything could happen. Anything could happen. Let's talk about the opening of the streets. The opening and the supposed closing, which they say is not closed, but it's open. It's open. It's closed. It's open.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It's closed. Here's CBS with a guy from the Rand Corporation talking about how difficult it is to open. the Hormuz Straits. The agreement with Iran also reopened the Strait of Hormuz, and ships are starting to move through the major waterway again, but traffic may not get back to normal right away because of dozens of mines that need to be cleared in the area. So I want to bring in Dr. Scott Savitz, a senior engineer and professor at Rands School of Public Policy. Thanks for joining us. What is a realistic timeline for the Strait of Hormuz to reopen for commercial traffic? Are we talking days, weeks, months?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Appreciable traffic can start to move within days. It's likely that narrow corridors can be cleared. On the other hand, getting the entire straight cleared may take weeks, possibly months. Full traffic, normal traffic, as it was before the war, will like resume within a few weeks. Eh, okay. So, you know, everyone's still talking about these so-called mines, which I just don't believe. I don't believe there's the mines in there. No one blowed up.
Starting point is 00:48:44 They'll be crazy to mine the straits of Hormuz. No one benefits from that. They keep saying there's mines there. Yeah, they keep saying it. There's no evidence. And so here's the CNBC to get the load on the oil markets. So what does this deal actually do? Well, first and foremost, and critically for the energy markets,
Starting point is 00:49:07 it reopens the Strait of Hormuz, and it also lifts the U.S. naval blockade. Secondly, it's going to give a run an immediate waiver to export oil during this 60-day ceasefire period, and that is really the provision that energy markets are also focused on this morning. I've been speaking with analysts here in Vienna about what this could mean for oil flows over the next few months. David Fyfe at August Media told me it could take several months before shipping and exports normalize, and Rita Sand at energy aspects also weighing in. She was a little bit more cautious, saying she doesn't expect Hormuz. flows to return to pre-war conditions anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Yeah, everyone is like, ah, cautious, cautious, cautious. Now, we are now looking at premium gasoline in Texas at about $4.20 down from over five. So people are not smiling, but they're like, hmm, okay, feel a little bit better. California is still outrageously high and a rare non-retarded moment from, from former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. California is making some major mistakes in policy-wise because they make fuel very expensive. So our fuel is around $2 per gallon more than the average in the United States.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And the reason is because the Californian legislators somehow feel like they don't want to have a refinery in California. So the refineries now go to Texas. So now you have to go and ship oil to Texas. Then you do the refining and then you go and ship it back again. Well, what do you think what happens when you ship? That creates pollution. So it is absolutely contradictory to what they believe in.
Starting point is 00:50:54 So they're a little confused, which is not unusual with legislators, may I remind you. Yeah. Plenty refineries in California. You know what he's saying. He's talking to simple people in California. simple out there. So we got to put it in terms you can understand. So whereas the G8, the G7. And by the way, the reason that the gas, he left out the most important, I don't want to just start correcting these kinds of clips, but he left out the most important part about the fuel
Starting point is 00:51:27 price is that it's a special, once in the world, bland that's special to California that burns a certain way and creates a certain kind of pollution that is peculiar. And so it costs more to make this gasoline than it does normal gasoline. Now, so is that because of where you are on the map or is that because of legislation? No, it's because they've decided they're the, you know, we're the ones to start the idea of the low sulfur diesel that could reduce Olson diesel everywhere being too expensive. But we also did the same thing with gasoline, creating a special blend of gasoline that is very good at not producing nitrogen oxides and other things that cause smog, literally. So you don't hear about smog anymore in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:52:19 And a large part of that is due to the fact that this gasoline, the effluent, the exhausts from these gasoline do not produce the kind of... I thought it was Obama who fixed all that. I thought Obama fixed up to dokey-doke, no? Bullshit. All right, so just to wrap this up, the G7, the big summit where Trump was sleepy and all alone in the schoolyard, used to be the G8 for people who have forgotten. Yeah, right. When Russia, Pustos still should be in it. Of course they should.
Starting point is 00:52:51 It's size. It's GDP. But no, we hate those. You know, we're not going to let you in the Olympics, in the Eurovision song contest, and certainly not in the G8. But yet somehow Volodymyr Zelensky is there hanging out and expecting Putin to show up. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has expressed willingness to meet his Russian counterpart for face-to-face talks on ending the war. Speaking at a historic monastery that was damaged in an overnight attack by Russia, Zelensky said he had offered to meet Vladimir Putin at the G7 summit.
Starting point is 00:53:28 We gave message that we are ready to meet with Putin. during G7 because Trump is there and Macron is there, starmer of Mertz. And Russia demonstrates again that they don't, they are not ready to speak about Bids. Zelensky will attend a working session with G7 leaders on Tuesday, giving him the opportunity to show Trump that he holds more cards than he might have thought, including Ukrainian troops' recent progress on the battlefield, which also comes on the back of receiving a 90-1stained. billion euro loan from the EU and Kiev's defense cooperation with Gulf nations.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I keep hearing from my military sources familiar with the matter that Russia is about to make something go big boom in Ukraine. Yeah. So you mentioned it in the last show. I just got to keep saying, I'm the Lindsay Graham of podcast, man. I just got to keep saying it to make Yeah, these military sources are yours that they were going to take over the election back in 2020. Quantum dots. Quantum dots are all over the place. I thought the other big news, which due to presentation was not played up much at all, except probably Fox and lots of podcasts.
Starting point is 00:54:50 We might as well join the chorus. That was Tulsi Gabbard outgoing. Yeah. I want to, yeah, when you're done, the thing that happened today, Tulsi Gabbard, you're going to tell it, and you have the clips, I don't have any of that, but today, the Washington Post. Let me, don't give away the punchline. There's a punchline? Well, you've got a punchline.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Today, the Washington Post, this is not from today. So this predates whatever you have to share. So let's think of this in a logical show rundown. I'm going to play the Gabbard Clips. But I like to jump in and jump in with a punchline before you can tell it. No, go on. Believe my punch line will wait and it doesn't have anything. I have no punchline.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You've got the punchline. I'm just giving people something that they may not have heard. Yeah, and why is that? Because this is the most significant thing she's done. Yes. And she had a big stack of papers on her desk. Did you see the size of that stack? Yeah, it was a stack.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Very, very tepid presentation. Yeah, your favorite type of presentation. Well, it almost looks like AI. That's how tepid it is. Like, this is, this is, we're the... It's terrible. She's not good at that. So I've just pulled two short clips.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Before the COVID pandemic, Dr. Fauci, as head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, provided millions in U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund dangerous gain of function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, work which is now widely viewed as the source of the unintentional lab leak that sparked the pandemic. Now, in support of President Trump's maximum transparency... I do find it interesting that she says in here, the unintentional lab leak. There's no reason for her to say that.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Well, there shouldn't be a reason, but I think there is. Oh, interesting. I didn't catch that. She could have just said the lab leak, but now it has to be unintentional lab leak. of the unintentional lab leak that sparks the pandemic. Now, in support of President Trump, spark, you know, this is irritating me now that I hear this again. Spark the pandemic?
Starting point is 00:57:04 No, caused the pandemic. Not spark. Caused. Spark means that there was fuel everywhere and it was ready to go and just needed to spark. No, no. It started the pandemic, if you want to say it correctly. Of the unintentional lab leak that sparks the pandemic. Now, in support of the.
Starting point is 00:57:24 President Trump's maximum transparency mandate. Today, on my final day as Director of National Intelligence, I'm releasing never-before-seen communications and documents that expose exactly how Fauci worked with politicized career leadership in the intelligence community to suppress the truth about his actions, the virus's lab leak origins, and his role in directing U.S. funding for this dangerous research that caused him measure. measurable harm and countless lost lives. Okay. And then the other piece of significance,
Starting point is 00:58:00 because there's a lot of fluffing in her statement. Fouchy lied. The COVID pandemic caused tremendous hardship and pain for millions of our fellow Americans and countless people around the world. Now, after years of lies and censorship and cover-ups, the American people deserve transparency, truth, and accountability.
Starting point is 00:58:21 The tactics that were used to hide the truth are straight from the deep state playbook. Politicized self-serving leaders, like Dr. Fauci, covered up their own wrongdoing and abuses of power, manipulated intelligence, lied to Congress, and undermined a duly elected president by restricting his access to the vital facts he needed to keep the country safe.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It's time you know the truth. No, it's time someone is held accountable. and we can't hold Fauci accountable because he got a retroactive pardon from the previous president. And which Trump is trying. Which is sketchy. Well, he's trying to say, well, it was auto pen, so it was no good. But, I mean, where is the outrage? Where?
Starting point is 00:59:12 It's not on Fox. It's not anywhere. There's no real outrage. Like, what, first of all, nothing new. We knew about it. We've heard about the emails. Well, we have. Yes, we have.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yes, we have. It's nothing new to people that have anything to do with this show. No, but no one else heard this. They only hear it on podcasts. No one is saying, well, that's baffling to me. Breaking news. It's suppressed. So your punchline of the Wall Street Journal or the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:59:43 So she talks about in there that when people, there was retribution by the intelligence community, when whenever anybody said anything about this. Remember that was in there. Today's Washington Post. Tulsi Gabbard, her guru and the mysterious messages that help shape her political career. Big giant story by this character. This guy, John Swain, a Brit from The Guardian. And if you just read, like, this is supposed to be reporting, but it's really written like an op-ed,
Starting point is 01:00:21 but like a personal account. just read you the first paragraph. The first time I spoke with Rebecca Salzberg, she told me that Tulsi Gabbard was a free thinker who took orders from no one. And you can see where this goes. Yeah, of course. But so I said, well, who's this guy? This Swain character. And so here he is. He was in the, he was during, he was at the guardian, the left wing guardian. We all know that place. of his stories. Trump impeachment. Esper indicates Pentagon will cooperate. Sean Hannity's sheriff friend faces
Starting point is 01:01:01 mounting ethics allegations. Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, violence in the name of Trump. We all know he's a, he's unfit Joe Walsh to challenge Trump. It's just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Joe Walsh from the Eagles? Yeah, no, that's a different Walsh. It goes on and on.
Starting point is 01:01:26 But this guy is just a, he's a hit job guy. There's a, in the business is called a hit piece. Yeah. And this guy's like one of these guys who writes these. And so this is, so immediately she's out of office one day or a couple of, I guess a couple of days. Yeah. And bingo, just warning this, the hit piece comes out after she's gone because she can't, you know, you're not going to do it while she's the head of DNI.
Starting point is 01:01:53 No. And it was also brought up by, it wasn't Fauci, it was one of the commentators said that that actually Congress required the release of all these files that Tulsi released back in the 2020s. Yes. Like when Biden was still in office and this woman, Averill, the one that was ahead of DNI, I think her name was Averill Harriman or something like that, she just refused to release them because she was afraid that they're going to go after her. This is a concerted effort.
Starting point is 01:02:28 This is the intelligence community. There's something up with this whole thing. And I think it harkens back to the clip I played a few years ago of John Malone discussing how important this RNNA was to the intelligence community because they thought they could be used as a universal of universal vaccine for any crazy thing that comes along. trying to see it's not john malone is that you know the other malone robert robert malone robert malone i'm trying to think bob what would you call that clip oh it'd be malone it definitely have malone's name in it and i got lots of malone here
Starting point is 01:03:09 yeah it had to do with universality uh uh it's mrna maybe would be in there uh i wish i would recall the name of it but it was it was him discussing in great details. So he knew that this whole thing was a CIA idea, that they were looking for a universal vaccine and there was two candidates. One was the...
Starting point is 01:03:32 Maybe this is it. Let's see. All these circumventing of normal procedures and rules, that's happening because largely our intelligence community is pushing that through the administrative state structure. And why are they doing it?
Starting point is 01:03:48 I think if we just, back up for a minute and say, okay, let's try to give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment. Okay. Okay. Okay. What I think they are believing is that they have to push this. They have to get acceptance for this technology because there are no alternatives and the threat is so severe in their opinion, in their spooky world. The threat is so severe that something has to exist.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And this is the something they've latched on to. Now, I'm saying this not to defend them. I'm saying this to try to help you to understand what you've been subjected to. No, I'm not, that's a little out of context for it to be the one we're talking about. Yeah, it's about the MRNA technology. He talked about these technologies. There's two of them in play. There was the MRNA and then there was the adeno virus, which is what the Johnson & Johnson shot was.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Mm-hmm. And the adenovirus is used for Zika. they were playing around with that kind of technology as a quick, you know, because you can get from A to B. In other words, you can quickly make a vaccine without having to wait to three to five years or whatever it takes to develop one. With both these technologies and the Dino virus, they dropped the ball. They said, nah, screw this, it's no good. This MRNA's got the, it's got the, it's the answer to everything. And so they've been trying to push it down everyone's throat, but they could never get it past testing.
Starting point is 01:05:18 So they said, hell, well, they just release it. Make sure that everyone has to get it. And we'll see really if it's effective or not. We'll see how it does. See how it does. Yeah. But it's noticeable that no one is doing anything with this. Nobody's doing anything with the Tulsi Gabbard releases what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah. And I, yeah. It's very noticeable. Does that mean that everyone is afraid? Have they been threatened? I mean, okay. So the... There's something underlying it that we don't know about, but it has to have something.
Starting point is 01:05:55 It has something to do with that clip that Malone where he's talking about MRNN and how important it was or it is or supposed to be and it's not. That's the joke that these guys are living in the dream world. That technology stinks. Yeah, it sure does. Oh, instead, this is what your mainstream news does. There's been a flu outbreak at an Air Force base in Texas, just weeks after. After Defense Secretary Pete Hedgeseth ended mandatory vaccines for service members. Oh, you see, there's a correlation.
Starting point is 01:06:26 You know, I'm glad you got that clip because I heard that. Oh, what a, what a crock. Secretary Pete. Hegson. You know, coincidence, correlation, coincidence is not causation. It's not because of Hegsteth. It's only 34 seconds. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:06:43 There's been a flu outbreak at an Air Force base in Texas just weeks after Defense Secretary Pete. Hexseth ended mandatory vaccines for service members. Multiple media outlets are reporting there are more than 150 cases at Lackland Air Force Base at Joint Base San Antonio. An Air Force spokesperson is cited as calling the outbreak localized and saying mitigation measures are in place. In April, Hegeset announced that he was rolling back a decades old mandate, requiring that
Starting point is 01:07:11 U.S. military personnel get an annual flu shot, saying the mandate was, quote, overly broad. I'm kind of annoyed that I can't fly. You know, some of your clips are so poorly labeled, but this might be it. Let me see. This is Malone. The truth is that DARPA, which is the operational development arm, basically the CIA. I think this is the one. I fell in love with the RNA technology over a decade ago.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And they decided to capitalize it and force it into the market space. and for instance, they're the ones that have capitalized through in QTEL, their investment arm, the new R&A manufacturing facilities up in Canada. This is a CIA program. Don't, don't, you know, there's no... This is the clip, right? Yep. Now, do you know what it's labeled?
Starting point is 01:08:03 Oh, you're going to embarrass me. Yes. No, not at all because I'm able to decode. So it's called Malone 6, wow. The new R&A manufacturing facilities up in Canada. This is a CIA program. Don't, don't, you know, there's no ambiguity here. I'm not telling state secrets.
Starting point is 01:08:25 The technology was basically pulled out of the trash can because it had been suppressed by Merck after I developed it over 30 years ago. And advanced very aggressively by DARPA. DARPA funded and basically built Moderna. They're continuing to push all this and they're pushing it through the government. And what you're seeing is the power. of the intelligence community and the new biodefense industrial complex that's developed since the act, they're at its attacks and really goes beyond that, in being able to push their agenda through the government. When you see all these things that Paul's documenting, all these
Starting point is 01:09:06 circumventing of normal procedures and rules, that's happening because largely our intelligence community is pushing that through the administrative state structure. There you go. There you go. Yeah, and that's why, that explains why the Tulsi Gabbard report is going to go nowhere. And that's why Fauci's not going to get indicted. Yep. And that's why all the references, all the stuff that Rand Paul has been sending these,
Starting point is 01:09:34 these referrals to the DOJ, he said himself, and they just get kicked back. Nope, no, no, nope, nope, nope, nope, and no. Nope. somebody else is pulling the strings here. Yeah. Yeah, and it's the Intel community. This is probably the CIA and specifically. And they just got their hands in the pot.
Starting point is 01:09:53 They're saying, no, you're not messing with this. This is important. This is for national security purposes. We really like this technology. And they can't come up with anything else. And they're in too deep. They can't, you know, they can't say we made a mistake. They can't say, there's no good.
Starting point is 01:10:09 This technology stinks. It doesn't really work. They're trying to make it into a flu vaccine now. Yeah, I think the intelligence community also preferred Betamax over VHS. V2,000. That was another good format. I like that. The P2, Phillips, Phillips.
Starting point is 01:10:27 The Phillips. It was superior technology, but they didn't have the porn industry to support it. It was football. Football? I don't care what, you know, people always say, He said, well, the porn industry put it on VHS and not B. No, beta, when it first came out, I've made this, I'm going to make it. This is an old argument.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Nobody knows what we're talking about. When Bata came out, they were good, you could record an hour. When VHS came out, you could record an entire football game, two hours, and then it was later extended to four. So you could definitely get a game in. And Bata Max couldn't just couldn't hold as much stuff on the cassette. That's why it failed. Oh, is that true? Well, it's your thesis. I like it.
Starting point is 01:11:13 That's the thesis I've had since that argument began. Because it was always the argument, it was better quality. No, no, no. I don't recall you saying that it was because of the length of the recording length. I just don't recall that. That's because we never talked about on this show. This argument goes way back. To like when?
Starting point is 01:11:35 Like, Twit? No, I mean, it was way, I mean, when was the, Betamax VHS wars. That's when there's a bunch of other guys that Johnny come lately is coming in with all kinds of different formats. Let's ask the book of knowledge. Yeah, when was these wars? Well,
Starting point is 01:11:52 let's formulate the question properly. It's like, how about this? Why did VHS win over BATs? No, you don't give you bad information. You don't know that. Because it's going to use that porn argument. You don't know that. My thesis is not as well accepted even though it's
Starting point is 01:12:08 the accurate one. You don't know. This is the book of knowledge. How dare you? How very dare you? Book of knowledge. Why did VHS win over Betamax? How dare you? How dare you question the authority of the book of knowledge? According to the book of knowledge, VHS triumphed over Betamax, primarily because JVC licensed the VHS format broadly to multiple manufacturers, flooding the market with cheaper machines
Starting point is 01:12:38 and longer recording times. Beta's initial one-hour limit could not capture a full football game while soly kept Beta Max largely proprietary. Thus, it has been written. I would say the book of knowledge is now authoritative.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Well, I nailed my thesis. That's funny. He must have gotten into the corpus. This is not Wikipedia. This is the book of knowledge, my friend. That's what it is. Ha. Well, I'm kind of pleased about that.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Even though I was wrong, I'm pleased that my book of knowledge had it right. This is good news. It's very good news. Okay, a little in, what is it? Not entremont. Entremant. No, no, what is in between? What is in between?
Starting point is 01:13:28 Intermezzo. No, is it, what is the, you're the foodie guy. What is that little food, that gabagoo? Wait a minute. What is the... Is it like your gob of goo before you go to the second course? Hold on. I wanted to ask the book of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Hold on a second. We got to ask the book of knowledge is now confused. Now it's like, it's trying to answer something else. Hold on a second. Let's see if I can interrupt it. Book of knowledge. What is that gob of goo you get between... It has been written.
Starting point is 01:14:03 It's... You get between courses in a fancy restaurant. Let's see. Gob of goo. This is too stupid. According to the book of knowledge, that gobb of goo is called a pinch palate cleanser. A food or beverage served between courses to prepare diners for the next course. Oh, typically with mutual flavors designed to remove lingering aftertaste.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Gob of goo. The most common form is a fruit sorbet. who sharp citrus and cold temperature temporarily reset the taste buds. And in France and Italy, this course is formerly known as the Cad Intermezzo. Yeah, you're right. Thus, it has been written. Intermizo. You're right. An intermetso.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I'm not going to roll. I love that it said, that gob of goo. I'm a programming wizard. All right. The Intermezzo is a, uh, former vice president of the United States, Kamala Harris, who is out there doing interviews and all these different fora, fora.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Because, you know, of course, you know, in 2028, we expect her to run again. I think she's really serious about running. Well, this is one of her better word salad answers that we've heard since she was vice president. You've talked about that you're thinking about running for president, right? How is that thought process going? What's the process in that? And I know you're on a listening tour. And I'm curious, what you're hearing from people as you've gone around the country,
Starting point is 01:15:48 what people are telling you that maybe you've learned that you didn't know before the process of doing so. Man, we need to go on a listening tour. But literally, we'll go on stage and we'll just sit there and just have everyone just, just have people have mics and yell stuff at us and we'll just listen. That is perfect. I think it's very no agenda. All right. Let's hear what she has to say. Telling you that maybe you've learned that you didn't know before the process of doing so.
Starting point is 01:16:18 What people are telling me includes that they want to believe in systems, and they've lost trust in those systems. What I hear a lot is that people know that at the end of this administration, there will be a lot of debris. Debris. I tell them often. I can't guarantee that it won't get worse before it gets better.
Starting point is 01:16:50 But the one thing I do know is at the end of it, there will be a lot of debris. And it would be irresponsible to then address that in a way that we only talk about what should we do, what do we need to do to rebuild. If we do that with any sense of nostalgia,
Starting point is 01:17:07 that would be irresponsible. The status quo is not working for a lot of people. And what the people are telling us is that they want things to be better. And in some places, what that sounds like is we want that to be broken. But they don't actually necessarily mean break it through destruction. but they do mean it has to be better. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:47 It's crazy, man. It's crazy. Well, we're on crazy. Okay. How about a couple of whatever girls? Oh, this early in the show? Yeah, it's a good time. You know that we go to Ebola.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I remind you that on the last show, show you said i'm never playing it again and now you've already you know i've decided i'm going to go to 10 and i'm up to 9 and after 10 i'm going to stop unless there's a huge demand okay but but let's but let me just say it and go to Ebola because nobody's talking about it well what wait a wait a minute wait a what happened to the whatever girls no we'll bring him back that is a national emergency a national security issue you know the the people this dumb are are successful in porn. One girl, you know, one girl said in one of the,
Starting point is 01:18:42 I do one of the ones I didn't clip, she says, I don't see the point of having to know all this. No, well. And I think she was right. That's a good point. I've taken the side of the girls that don't know these things. It's like, so how many people know how many continents there are? It could be as a six, is seven, is it eight.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I don't know myself. And it's like, you know, okay, yeah, maybe you should know that United States is North America. Mexico. That would be kind of sounds like you're something you should know. But what difference does it make if you're never going to go there? I have mixed feelings about a lot of this. But let's go to Ebola. This is and is spelled E-N-P-L-A and pla, just to keep in the scheme. Funny enough, funny enough, I had already queued those up thinking this is probably the Ebola. Literally, E-N-P-P-L-L-A. I'm like, oh, it's got to be Ebola. Yeah, okay. Let me, it's the B, the B is. is right next to the N. Who knows? My touch typing is the worst.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yes. It's pretty bad. All right. Here we go. Yeah. The Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo that emerged last month is surging at an unprecedented pace with at least 900 cases in nearly 250 deaths confirmed. Deaths.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Health officials there are overwhelmed with cases. Emmett Livingstone just returned from a reporting trip to the region and joins us. Emmett, thanks for being with us. You've spent a week in a tourie in the area that's... Oh, can I just say something? Okay. I didn't quite decode everything. So here's...
Starting point is 01:20:16 So typically John will put SS in the clip, so I know to play. Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. So while I had decoded enplah, this is what it says. It's NPLA bigger MESONI NPR. And so... So I think you meant to have Ebola, bigger mess, SS1 NPR.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Yeah. Wow. So I mean, this is after working together for 18 years. It's like, it's like an old married couple. I don't know what you like for breakfast, but I can decode. Who cares? You can do this. How bad is.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Yeah. To put it bluntly, the situation is dire. For lots of people, life is still continuing as before, but because it has to, children are going to school, people are going to church on Sundays and so on, but there's also a growing sense of fear. Ebola is spreading across a huge and difficult to access area. It's also spreading in Bunya, a city of over one million people. And there is a massive international response underway, but this outbreak was caught very late. In the hospitals I visited, there was a constant arrival of suspected Ebola patients. And in many cases, because of poor health infrastructure, there's
Starting point is 01:21:33 no way to isolate these cases. So they risk infecting others. People are also dying every day. day. Health personnel also say they don't have enough PPE. Doctors explain to me that lots of PPE like masks or gloves is single use. So there needs to be a constant supply. And because the disease has spread so widely, nurses in rural areas are coming into daily contact with suspected Ebola patients too. And for the most part, they have nothing. All right. The point is, is that we haven't played anything on Ebola for the last two shows.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I actually brought some Ebola clips today. and it's like it's been getting worse it hasn't improved and it's not it's not the top of the news this i don't think the networks are talking about it at all i know i know why we need to remember the jingles work Ebola Ebola it has been with us two times in our lives Ebola third now it's time to speak about ebola Ebola, Ebola. You, of course, have been inside Ebola treatment centers and hospitals. How were the health care workers coping?
Starting point is 01:22:47 I saw a difference between doctors working in Ebola treatment. Oh, crap, I'm sorry. Didn't mean to do that. The treatment centers and other health personnel. Only a handful of these treatment centers are operating at the moment, and they've been set up specifically for Ebola patients. The doctors working there are often world specialists. But then there's the other health personnel, the community nurses or doctors working in small clinics.
Starting point is 01:23:13 They're not trained for this, and yet they're highly exposed. Dozens of health workers have already been infected, and some, unfortunately, have already died. And, of course, as you said, the number of cases is quickly rising. Our health care workers are able to keep up doing contact tracing, isolating people who are infected. Yeah, it's actually hard to know for sure because so much of this outbreak is happening out of view. The government says 72% of contacts are being traced, but aid workers are very skeptical of this figure. Some told me off the record that it's probably around 40%. What this means in simple terms is that the outbreak is out of control.
Starting point is 01:23:48 And of course, that means there's a risk of regional spread. Many people are not turning up to hospitals or health centers and are dying unnoticed. Health responders just don't know where all the cases are. So, for example, it emerged this week that there have been dozens of suspicious deaths in a displacement camp in Bunya. This camp is right next to the city's airport and the headquarters of NGOs. If it's confirmed to be Ebola, it's spreading right under the nose of the official response. And then, isolating suspected patients is also a huge problem. There's no system of triage in many hospitals or clinics,
Starting point is 01:24:21 so suspected Ebola patients can be clumped together with others. To give you a concrete example, I visited a hospital 40 kilometers outside of Bunya, where there was only one block of toilets for patients. So if you had Ebola or, say, appendicitis, you had to use the same facilities. Ebola. All right. I have two Ebola clips.
Starting point is 01:24:41 A little more exciting because no one cares about Africa. We want to hear about death and how horrible and could it come to us. And CBS did a decent job. Top health officials in Africa are warning that the Ebola outbreak in Central Africa could become the worst in history if transmission rates are not flattened. The director of Africa. Flatten the curve. That decur.
Starting point is 01:25:04 CETERRUS Control and Prevention says, more than 200 people thus far have died in the Democratic Republic of Congo and neighboring Uganda. The total number of confirmed cases, nearly 900 and appears to be growing. That is the number of cases. I want to bring in Cyra Medad. She is an infectious disease epidemiologist at Harvard University's Belfour Center. Syra, I'm glad to have you with us. Thanks for joining us. Walk my audience through what we know and what we fear might happen.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Yeah, well, I think first I'll start by sharing. the current Ebola outbreak of the Budumbugio virus is already the third largest Ebola outbreak on record. So that really goes to show you that a little over one month since this outbreak was detected. It's already the third largest, which, you know, is expanding in geographic location. We're up to 31 health zones in three provinces being affected. Okay, so we've already heard flatten the curve. What else do we need? We need, I think we need testing, testing.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Testing, oh, testing. And my favorite. This is not just a story of the number of cases that are being detected. It's a story of the number of people that are also being contact traced. And that's also where we're also falling behind. So there's a lot that's complicating the matter. The matter. The first is, as we talk about contact tracing, these are the number of individuals that have
Starting point is 01:26:20 come in contact with a confirmed case of Ebola. Now, estimates show that we should be tracking about 33,000. And the reason why we're coming up with that 33,000 number is because it's the magic number. It's for every one case. Oh, interesting. Good catch. We're typically looking at about 40 contacts that they may have. Now, according to the most recent World Health Organization report, they're only contact tracing about 4,000 of those individuals.
Starting point is 01:26:44 So there's a very large number that still are out and they're not being contact traced. So there's lots of complexities. And the one thing that I'll also share is that outbreak is occurring in an area of conflict, of neglect, of militarized response, and a huge humanitarian need. So there's lots of confounding factors here. U.S.AID. No, I think what we should do is we should bomb them. I mean, we need to save the world.
Starting point is 01:27:10 President Trump, we've got to bomb them. That's the only way to get rid of it. Let's do our little medley of Ebola jingles just to get out of this. And in the black Trump's weighing in and over 3,000 troops, the ISIS of virus, the killer from Nigeria, Ebola. I'm back in town, back in town. I'll tell us back in town, Ebola's back in town. Ebola.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Ebola, he comes from Africa and give diarrhea. Everybody. I'll tell you this, if Ebola breaks out in the United States, I'm going to quarantine myself. I'm wearing a mask. I've already got it in place for my family. The African. So, speaking of Africa, of course, So, of Ebola, of course it was recorded.
Starting point is 01:28:24 So I watched the opening of the Obama, it's a central center. It's not a library. It's a center. And, man, it was insufferable. It was, although it was kind of fun to see President Biden walking around dazed and confused. Yeah, the same old Biden. He was, I'm like, is that daddy long legs? No. Do I go this way?
Starting point is 01:28:58 Do I go that way? That's the guy. He was there, oh, my daughter's in the, what? And all the elites were there. You had, whenever you have, what is it, John, John Legend and Bruce Springsteen on the same stage. Okay. And Valerie Jarrett apparently is in charge. of this whole deal.
Starting point is 01:29:19 And, ugh, it's just sick. Sicko, sicko people. And, oh, boy, did anybody ever point out that, you know, this building, which is a screwy-looking thing, has got no windows. And nobody ever says to the obvious, why doesn't it have any windows? Well, it's being built in the rough part of town, the south side of Chicago, where the windows would be shot out and boarded up. So you can't have any windows in that area.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Before we talk... Seems racist if you ask me. So Fox had a report on some of the minority contractors who helped build this monstrosity. Yeah, this is a scandal. This is quite the scandal. It's over about $100 million probably that estimatively probably owed to contractors on this project. One contractor may be anywhere from 40 to 50 million. million. Another contractor told me they're owed $100,000. Another one told me they owe $4 million.
Starting point is 01:30:25 So we have over 10 contractors that are being hurt and crippled by this particular project. So that is Omar Sharif. Omar Sharif. Wow. I didn't know he's done to that. He sound pretty young. He is the president of the African American Contracts Association. And he's commenting on how much they're owned from the Obama Library bill that was unveiled yesterday that was for, years late and way over budget, almost double the budget they intended. For $300 billion, $300 million, it's up over $850 million. Michael Dorgan joins us now. Michael Jordan, we got Omar Sharif, Michael Jordan, this is great.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Been on this story, Fox News Digital Reporter. Michael, great to see you. Thanks for having me, Brian. Yeah, and I think the final bill is going to go well over $1 billion. That $850 million figure has been there since 2021, and we haven't got an updated figure since. So it's a scandal. It's a scandal that people have not been paid. And you remember Trump is the most horrible guy.
Starting point is 01:31:21 They all over Trump for not paying his contractors. But Obama, we seem to miss that. What's the delay? I spoke to several subcontractors. I was in Chicago two weeks ago and they told me that the place, the work site was totally chaotic. There was just overregulation. Too many people there asking them to do too many things that weren't in line with specifications. and a two-year job turned into a five-year job for a lot of these subcontractors
Starting point is 01:31:48 and a lot of them now are faced financial ruin. A lot of them are owed millions of dollars for this project. And a lot of them are minorities, right? Yeah, several. You had Omar Sharif on there. I spoke to Omar when I was outside the centre and he's an advocate for these black-owned subcontractors and they're afraid to speak out. A lot of them has signed non-disclosure agreements so they can't go public.
Starting point is 01:32:09 They can't reveal any documentation. I spoke to one. He didn't want to go public. He said he's owed $2.5 million and he said he'd be happy to walk away with $1 million. But his business has been around for 40 years. He feels he's financially crushed. And, you know, we found out with several other subcontractors. We thought it would be an excellent project for them to work on. But we find out it's a very shameful project for them because we have not gotten paid and they should pay us as they celebrate with their celebrities today. And they had Bruce Springsteen there, they had Bono there, they had Oprah there, Tom Hanks, who was the hoo-hoo of celebrities, who have had nothing to do because Joe Biden was basically a corpse when he was in the Oval Office. And now this is the time to show up and look back at his eight years. What else do you think was noteworthy about the event? A lot of billionaire is there yesterday, Brian. They could pay all these guys.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Yeah. And it's the little guy that's getting crushed. You know, this was supposed to uplift the minority community, the local contractors. I really don't understand. What does CNN or Ms. Now have to lose by exposing this? No one cares about Obama. What do they have to lose? And they should.
Starting point is 01:33:23 They should say, hey, this is a scandal. I mean, it just makes them look really, really horrible. Why don't they do that? Why doesn't CNN and MS now cover this? Yeah. They don't want to. Not okay. but that's my question.
Starting point is 01:33:42 There's nothing to lose. Obama's not going to become president. They have the prestige to lose. There's still Democrats. Yeah. Protecting turf. So President Obama. And this makes the Democrats look bad because Obama's a Democrat kind of pushing, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:00 he was behind the Biden administration. You're still the Valerie Jared's out there. The same old, same old people, the stooges that ran the thing. So you know, no. All right. So President Obama spoke, and I had forgotten how much we had to clip his speeches. I didn't do it here. It's only a minute. But if I had clipped out all the silences, it would have been like 40 seconds. We just have to work overtime with that guy.
Starting point is 01:34:27 A few weeks away from America's 250th birthday, it is worth remembering. Just how radical the whole idea of self-government really was back in 1776. To that point, human history was a tale of conquest and caste and rigid hierarchies. A world where the strong dominated the weak, where power and wealth and status flowed through lineage. And the many were ruled by the few. But out of the fire and steel of a revolution, a different story took flight. on this continent, a declaration that we are all created equal, endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights,
Starting point is 01:35:21 and that in the newly independent United States, there will be no kings or lords, no serfs or subjects, but only citizens, each of us free to pursue our own version of happiness. Don't drone me, bro. So he brings up... Isn't it inalienable? He says un- I always thought it was inalienable,
Starting point is 01:35:46 but I've looked it up and it is unalienable. I don't know how I was also incorrect about that. So he brings up the 250th birthday, and I want to give you props, John C. DeVorek. Okay. You expose, he's like, okay, I'm leaning forward now. What?
Starting point is 01:36:00 Say what? So hold on a second. Let me put down my comic book. You said that there was two different 250 organizations. Yeah. I don't think this was well discovered by anybody until you unveiled it here on the No Agenda show. Yeah, we do that. And we always listen to PBS. I think they're listening to us. It's America's 250th birthday. And if you're confused between America 250 and Freedom 250, we're going to break it down for you with Liz Landers, our White House correspondent. Liz, let's jump in first. What's America 250?
Starting point is 01:36:34 America 250 is a nonpartisan nonprofit organization that was set up by Congress in 2016, so 10 years ago. And it was an order of Congress signed to celebrate America's 250th birthday, which is coming up July 4th. Now, what is Freedom 250? Freedom 250 is a different organization. This was started and founded through a White House Task Force called White House Task Force 250. President Trump signed this into an executive order, really at almost the beginning, of his second term back in January of 2025. And the White House said at the time that they are engaging all levels of government, the private sector, non-profit, and educational institutions, and every
Starting point is 01:37:16 citizen around the country to celebrate this historic milestone. And of course, as we know, it's a mess. Now Freedom 250 has come under scrutiny. Why? Freedom 250 has come under scrutiny for a few reasons, mostly that some people believe that it has become a politicized event with President Trump, sort of becoming the namesake of some of their events. President Trump announced on his social media platform, Truth Social, that two of the events that were tied to Freedom 250 are part of their celebrations, a rally on June 24th coming up, and then another one on July 4th on Independence Day, are both going to be now Trump rallies. And then they've also come under some criticism in the last several weeks after they announced that there were going to be
Starting point is 01:38:02 concerts on the National Mall and a number of pretty high profile music artists, including people like, people like Martina McBride and Brett Michaels of the band Poison pulled out of the event saying that they didn't realize that it was going to be a political type event. Freedom 250 says they're not political, but still those artists withdrew. Yeah, big artists, Brett Michaels of Poison. Big, big artists. Big names. Big names. You know, all those people have bailed out from the Freedom 250. They were all booked by the same guy. Ah, what is it not?
Starting point is 01:38:41 He was the one guy booked them all. They were all the clients. And the booker and the agent that was the booker, his name was Jeffrey Epstein. No. Yeah. The guy's name is Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah. I would be changing my name.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Yeah, it would be too. But apparently he just did this on his own. And they say, hey, well, you don't want to do this stuff. Hmm. All right. I just want to sneak in some AI talk here as it continues to be interesting to follow what's happening in the forthcoming IPOs. The first, Axios is getting more and more access. We've got to figure out who runs this Axios operation.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Who's behind that? Well, we've looked into it before. It's a bunch of lefties. Yeah. Is it? I think there's some spooks involved. I think, let me see Axios. Let me see if they can, is there a, does they have a wiki page?
Starting point is 01:39:45 Yeah, look at the Axios masthead. Let me see. Well, is he. Oh, listen to this. Axios is an American news website based in Arlington, Virginia. Hello. Home of the Spooks. founded in 2016 and launched the following year by former Politico Journalists,
Starting point is 01:40:04 Jim Vandahai, Mike Allen, and Roy Schwartz. Let me see. Okay, but in September 1st, 2020, Cox Enterprise bought it for $525 million. So it's owned by Cox now, apparently. Well, they got good access. They got access to the president talking about, Anthropic? You know, we have a situation with Anthropic, and we didn't like what they were doing. And so far, I think they behaved very responsibly to our request.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Do you view Anthropic, and to a degree at CEO, Dario Amadeh as a threat to national security? Well, not now, but a week ago, maybe. I was with him yesterday. He made a speech. I made a little speech. I made a little speech. We're in the room, we're in the G7. And it seems like a nice guy, smart guy. But he responded to us very quickly. Because, you know, it's tremendous liability. People get put in prison immediately for that.
Starting point is 01:41:14 You know, you can't play games with that. And he responded very responsibly, I thought, so far. I think he will. All right. So responded responsibly. And the president is very up to speed on how this went down. You have the power to use the Defense Production Act potentially? I have no power to use a lot of things, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Would you consider using the Defense Production Act to possibly regulate but control AI or AI? I would, but I'm not sure I have to do that. I think so far it's been very responsible. Actually, it was a competitor and a part owner. Amazon. That turned Anthropic in. They didn't like what they were doing.
Starting point is 01:41:51 They were very concerned. Think of it. It's a part owner. And I think it worked out. very well, I think. This was Amazon you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Amazon Web Services. They said, hey, we were able to jailbreak it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Okay. Yeah. I have another AI clip, but just a quick, a shorty here, another Axios interview. They get good stuff out of the president. Listen to this. Meanwhile, in a new interview with Axios, President Trump was asked what he learned about the limits of his power during this war with Iran. Here's what he said. What have you learned about, not just the
Starting point is 01:42:26 exercise of power, put the limits on your power as a result of the conflict. There are no limits. No longer. No, not, I haven't learned that lesson yet. I know there are, but, you know, there are no limits. We defeated them totally militarily. However, beginning of conflict, you had talked about you only wanted unconditional surrender. And well, the MOU doesn't look like unconditional surrender. Well, it really probably is unconditional surrender. It is? I think so. I got no limits to my power, baby. I can do whatever I want. Yeah, this clip was played by all the shows this morning. And with all these
Starting point is 01:43:00 Democrats. And they should use this as a campaign for the midterms. The guy's out of control. He's insane. Power hungry. Yeah. Maybe they will. So what I find
Starting point is 01:43:16 interesting about what's happening with the AI buildout is all these companies are now raising debt through bonds. So I guess Yeah, it's just getting pathetic. It is pathetic. I mean, this means no one else wants to invest in. No one wants to buy share.
Starting point is 01:43:34 So, well, okay, a bond, maybe. We'll do something with that. Here's the NBC. Well, so this AI boom and all of this reliance on debt to fund the data center. Build out, it's giving tech investors a lot more reason to watch the bond market, especially when you look at the 10 years. So smaller, high-growth tech stocks have really always been pretty rate-sensitive, but the giants in tech have been historically a lot more immune to what is going on with rates.
Starting point is 01:43:56 and the Fed because of their fortress balance sheets. But that is changing significantly. The biggest tech companies are now expected to spend about $750 billion on this AI buildout just this year. And recently a handful, as you mentioned, Brian, have tapped debt markets. You have Nvidia and Oracle meta filed for about a $30 billion offering. Amazon has filed the paperwork for a loan facility. Alphabet had one of the biggest out there.
Starting point is 01:44:20 And then Open AI has pointed to access to public debt as one major motivator to actually go public. I've been talking to widely expect this borrowing spree to continue barring any sort of rate shock here, but these companies have been depleting their cash reserves at the same time. Goldman Sachs noting recently that after accounting for CAPEX, free cash flow is at its lowest level since the dot-com area. You can see that chart there. Part of this is all financial engineering, so there are reasons you would want to borrow instead of actually spending your cash when it comes to these tech companies. It can be a lot more capital efficient. They can preserve some flexibility. Peter Bookvar put it well. He told me earlier, Brian.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Bottom line, tech investors are learning what it's like to be an investor in an old economy, industrial business. What's your take on this? Wow. It's nuts. Okay, nuts. But explain the difference between. Well, explain if you're in the bond market.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Well, it's a bookkeeping thing. I mean, they have the, and I can't explain it because I'm not a CPA. No. But there's some bookkeeping angle that allows them to, the way it will be written off if the whole thing folds is easier to do. under these circumstances because it's just the debt. And you can also, you can carry it forward. There's all kinds of, it has to do with tax implications. There's a lot of fancy footwork that goes on in an effort to deal with the fact that you've got
Starting point is 01:45:41 way too much cash flow here that's going to be, have to be dealt with. I don't know. I can't give you any more than it's just, there's something fishy. Well, we can smell the fishy. We just don't understand it, but it doesn't see. Well, we don't because neither one of us are accountants. No. But somebody out there can maybe explain it a little better, maybe our guy, local guy here.
Starting point is 01:46:05 But I want to talk about something that you talked about with me after the show and you had another fail. That was in confidence. Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, the robot didn't put the spreadsheet together correctly. Yes, yeah, the robot failed. Yes. So I talk, I discuss this with JC. You want to, shall I explain what it is?
Starting point is 01:46:28 Yeah, I want you to explain it. And I'll explain what he said that you're doing wrong. Oh, it's my fault. Okay. It is, but no, it's not your fault. It's the AI's fault, but it's, there's a trick. Okay. Oh, well, okay.
Starting point is 01:46:40 I've heard most of the tricks. So the robot, the same one who knew, who knew correctly that it was taping football games. So the robot is on the ball. I have the robot. The minute I hit the end of show mix, I say, robot do the credits. and the robot knows, now it's written scripts, but I'll just say the robot knows to go into the spreadsheet, to pick out the names, 200 to 300, put them into my outline in the credits
Starting point is 01:47:11 under associate executive producers and then 300 and above and put those into the executive producers. It also knows to pull out the knights, the dame, so it's all nicely in the show notes. And it works five times in a row perfectly, and the sixth time it just, It just farts and does everything wrong. And I'm curious what J.C. had to say about that.
Starting point is 01:47:34 He says the mistake you're making is you're telling it is doing something wrong. This is counterintuitive. He says in particular, especially Claude, has a tendency to absorb a criticism that didn't do something right. And then from then on, assume that, well, I guess it's okay once in a while. and it'll keep doing it. He says it'll get worse. Really? You have to start from scratch.
Starting point is 01:48:03 In other words, you reset and start the process from the beginning as if it never made a mistake. Well, okay. So when he says reset, I presumably means clear the context, which I do. But these are actual skills that I've written for it,
Starting point is 01:48:19 that it has written. And when you call a skill, it is supposed to call the same scripts and do the exact same thing every single time. It's just interpreting me saying, run those scripts. And yet, then it'll come back. And when I say, you did it wrong, you know what the answer is? Oh, I'm sorry, I was freelancing instead of adhering to the skill. This is the problem. Yeah, well, you're not, you're not supposed to do that. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. And now there was, don't ever say he did anything wrong. Just tell him to do it over or start
Starting point is 01:48:52 over. How about this? So you need positive reinforcement. Good job, but let's try it this way. Good job, stupid. Thanks. All right. We're up to speed on how to do it. All right. There is no doubt in my mind that AI is going to increase jobs, increase opportunity for people. For those of you who get into it and know using chat GPT or a chat bot is not the way to do it.
Starting point is 01:49:22 You've got to get this thing loaded on your computer so it can destroy your file. files. And after a couple of rounds of that, you understand how to destroy the files, which it does all the time. It literally, oh, I did what? This morning, I have another skill. I call it stage. So I say, here's all my clips. Now, I want you to organize those into meta categories. So like Iran, right? So I have Iran. And then it's and then subcategories, Beirut Israel, before the MOU was signed, after the MOU was signed, uh, from the right. So we didn't play any of these, but responses from the right, responses from the left, Hormuz oil, Vance and Switzerland, and then the Sunday shows. So it is pretty good at doing that.
Starting point is 01:50:07 But in the meantime, I had created the end-of-show mix. I put the spreadsheet in the donations folder. I put two meet-up reports into the meet-ups folder. I put the ISOs in the ISOs folder. And the robots doing this plate skill. And it just deletes all those folders. I'm like, what happened to my folders? Oh, oh, no, I broke my own rule and deleted them.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Let me see if there's a backup. Of course, no. And so I had to do all that work over again. I want to see if I can find its exact. Wow. Oh, yeah, it's exact words. Let me see. What happened?
Starting point is 01:50:49 When I reshipped the renumbered folder at 1202, I used R-Sync dash-dash delete on the whole show folder. Dash, dash delete removes anything that isn't in my local mirror. My mirror only had the 08 meta folder. So it deleted your top level donations, end of show, ISOs, and your JCD clips folder survived only because you added it at 1204 after my sync. This is the exact thing the stage doctrine warns against. Quote, do not delete extraneous files. Adam may have dropped files there. I rationalize dash dash delete as safe because the folder was new this session. That was wrong. Yeah, that was wrong, all right.
Starting point is 01:51:33 So screw these AIs. I'm glad you're doing this. Yeah. What it's teaching me is that A, you don't have to boo your commencement speaker about AI because if you get a little bit proficient and you learn to do stuff like backup files because the robot will delete your crap, you can use it to some advantage.
Starting point is 01:52:00 No doubt about it. But you can't let this stuff just run alone and run your company. That's not going to work. It's going to go out. And it will never work as long as these things hallucinate. So it will never. It'll never work perfectly, ever. No. Well, when we get to quantum, it will, Joe.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Get quantum. Once he hit the quantum, we'll be fine. All right. Well, I got a couple of things. I got some CIA, a CIA stooge that was on CNN, I thought was funny. Okay. I was hit him. Tonight, Bill Pulte, the Trump loyalist and federal housing officials who started today as acting director of national intelligence, despite having no intelligence experience, using his first public comments in his new role not to talk about U.S. but to tout government-owned mortgage entities, Fannie Mae and FAC. It comes as CNN reports that Pulte, after visiting DNI headquarters yesterday,
Starting point is 01:52:57 requested a list of every employee in the office so he could determine whether to fire hundreds of them. Sources say that Pulte also asked if he'd have access to a government plane at a security detail and whether he would receive top secret security clearance. Out for now, John Seifer, a 28-year veteran of the CIA's clandestine service, who was warned about the danger of Pulte overseeing U.S. intelligence. Danger. John, thanks so much for being with us. What does it tell you about Pulte when he's asking about a security detail and access to a government plan?
Starting point is 01:53:29 It says he's unsurious and unqualified. But for me, the bigger issues, it shows that the president doesn't take the intelligence community seriously. If he continues to put these kind of people in there, who clearly are there just to do his bidding and to try to sort of use the intelligence community as his own detective agency. agency to declassify information to create conspiracy theories. Create conspiracy theories. Oh, that's, that's cool. Okay, so this guy's saying, so the president should never do that. Not like Obama telling him to change the entire report, the reports that said Russia had nothing to do at the 2016 election.
Starting point is 01:54:08 There's nothing like that. Why do we even argue this anymore? I don't know why we bother. But you're right. But here we go. It shows that the president doesn't take the intelligence community seriously. And if he doesn't want unfiltered intelligence, then there really is no reason to have an intelligence community correctly.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Wow. And Pulte asking for the name of every employee to see whether to potentially fire hundreds of them. I mean, Trump clearly wants to alter the way that the ODNI functions. Yeah, I don't know how a list of people can show anybody who's loyal or not loyal or what party they belong to. As you know, public servants are, you know, work for all different, for Republicans and Democrats, different presidents. And in no way does anybody in the intelligence community show their partisan support or is it written down or in their thing.
Starting point is 01:55:05 So I don't know what a list of employees does for him. And if his job is just to fire everybody in the Directorate of National Intelligence, it goes to the question of do we really need a Director of National Intelligence? The thing was created in 2004 to coordinate between intelligence agencies. It's sort of a process job to try to create standards and make sure regulations across the community work. But ever since it began, you know, the people inside the community to do the real work, the real spying and the analysis, they've always rolled their eyes of the DNA and see
Starting point is 01:55:37 it sort of as a just an extra layer of burden. And so, sure, if they want to fire people, then just get rid of the DNI. I think it would do everybody a good service. Oh, yeah, much rather than that. Wait, wait, what's his argument here? Much rather than that. This guy stinks, but they should get rid of the whole place. And then he also says there's no partisanship in the spying community.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Like the 51 intelligence officers that came out with a 100 Biden laptop bull crap, half of them were still working. So this guy is like, it's just they don't have their act together with the messaging here. It's also not true. true because George W. Bush in 2008, with Executive Order 13470, solidified the DNI's legal authority to direct intelligence gathering and analysis. So that's a little bit more than just kind of like a paperwork. Yeah, and set policy for intelligence sharing with foreign agencies for the hiring and firing and firing of senior intelligence officials. The DNI was given further responsibility for the entire intelligence communitas, whistleblowing, and source protection by President Barack Obama via presidential policy directive 19.
Starting point is 01:57:00 So there was a lot. There's a lot more power here. So this guy's basically lying. Well, a CIA spook lying? Hmm. Let me think about that. Maga Loyalists who we know have Trump CEO are encouraging him to clean house. Here is Steve Bannon earlier today in response to CNN's story.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Get your guide to walk into everyone in the absence. Everybody's in that room that's not your person that did not come with you and you say, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired. And if I need to, I'm going to start a criminal investigation and sweep your phones up and see who talked to CNN in the New York Times. Fight fire with fire. A far-right activist Laura Lumer tweeting this as well. quote, we are expected to see some well-deserved mass firing soon, adding...
Starting point is 01:57:45 Whenever they want some other voice on the other side of an argument, they always pull out the nut jobs. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, well, this is clearly what everyone else thinks is Laura Lumer. Fight fire with fire. A far-right activist Laura Lumer tweeting this as well, quote, we are expected to see some well-deserved mass firing soon, adding, quote, we all know who needs to go. Criminal investigations, mass firings. Oh, to your point about just getting...
Starting point is 01:58:11 getting rid of the ODNI. I mean, is this even the most efficient way to do that if that is what Trump is trying to accomplish? No, of course not. I mean, we want, I think most Americans agree. We want a professional, serious, and expertise-driven intelligence community. You want an intelligence community that's focused on foreign adversaries. These people are talking about creating partisan people who do whatever the president wants and get involved in domestic issues. I mean, our intelligence community, foreign intelligence community is very powerful. And if it starts doing things like getting involved in our elections, in election voting systems and this kind of thing. This is exactly what we've had decades of reform about to make sure that we don't have that. We can't have anyone seeing what we're doing. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:58:59 We can't have that. No. Laffable. Oh, that is laughable. I have one short clip here from ABC, which stuck out. like a sore thumb, considering there's no heat on this Disclosure Day movie. Hold on a second. Do we have a box office on that?
Starting point is 01:59:20 Disclosure day. Negative number. Movie box office. Let's see. Because no one's talking about it. 60, what is it? 66 to 66 million in the U.S. Oh, that's not too bad.
Starting point is 01:59:37 that's for one weekend let me see what it is let me see what is that total let me see where's the number 66 that's interesting it's only shows
Starting point is 01:59:51 oh maybe I'd do this here domestic total as of June 21st that's today 78.3 million after its second weekend which saw a drop of 62% to drop to 17 million
Starting point is 02:00:05 worldwide total approximately 128 with a production budget of 115 million estimated marketing costs of 80 million. The film needs to gross around 300 million worldwide to break even. You'll probably barely make it. Yeah, so it's not a blockbuster by Stephen Spielberg standards.
Starting point is 02:00:26 It looks like a dog. So let's amp it up a bit. Did China and Russia reverse engineer alien technology? Well, there's a frightening thought for this Friday. It's one of the claims made by Jordan Flowers, the executive director of the UAP Disclosure Foundation, UAP being unidentified anomalous phenomena, of course. Now, Flower says in this latest batch of declassified UFO documents,
Starting point is 02:00:49 there's evidence that American adversaries retrieved downed UAPs and tried to make their own versions, translations. Flying saucers were picked up by the likes of Russia and China, and they have been tinkering with them ever since. Now, he also mentions claims that the Russians and the Chinese have been surveilling the United States' UAP programs. Okay. They reverse engineered it. There you go. That makes nothing but sense.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Yeah, sure they did. Okay. Well, I think with that, I could thank you for your courage. I say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the CIA stude, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. Well, in the morning, Mr. M.S. M. C., puts in the ground, feet the air, the air, subs of the water. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room,
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Starting point is 02:03:25 And I say, you know, we saw this curve and an accelerated ramp. And I think we are a very good petri dish of AI generation, AI content generation, where we had artists who were making... Darren O'Neill, actually, he did a lot of stuff with Photoshop and... But we had a lot of top-notch artists. Oh, Darren flew to the top of the list once the AI began. Well, you're jumping the gun.
Starting point is 02:03:59 So we had all these artists. And once the AI slop generators came in, people started using that and the artist became very disillusioned and upset because they would spend an hour or longer on a piece of art and someone came in and typed in do a funny thing like this and then we'd pick that because it was funny then we went through at least a year i'd say of oh my lord look at this it's all orange it's all the same it's you know there's really nothing exciting once in a while you know and then of course you I don't think it was a whole year, but there was a long period. Long period. And from time to time, an actual artist would do something, would just pop to the stack like, oh, that's great, we'll use that. And now we've gotten to this place where people are starting to understand how to use the tool.
Starting point is 02:04:53 And there's still a lot of slop, no doubt about it. But there's some useful, good, funny things. And it still comes down to the God-given creativity that you put into your prompt and what you really want it to be. And now I can see it starting to pay off. I mean, not if people had to pay what the actual compute charge is, because that would end it very, very quickly. That would end it very quickly.
Starting point is 02:05:22 But for 1878, we titled that, the Dream Build Loop. It was a nice piece here from Blue Acorn. Now, Blue Acorn is an OG artist. And this piece was more intricate than I thought at first. This is the California bear leaving California. You've got all kinds of dead people in the form of ghosts submitting ballots. But then in the background, there's the ghost train high speed rail to nowhere. There was a lot of stuff in here.
Starting point is 02:05:50 It's a great piece. More than I look at it. Yeah, it is a good piece. It really is. And you can tell by the comments that people leave on X or wherever you post it. But more importantly, it's a hat trick. It is. Blue Acorn, three in a row. It's amazing. That's right. He had the Roosevelt wrestling match. He had the ballots in Alaska. And you can tell he has a style. You can tell
Starting point is 02:06:18 it's his style now, which is also kind of interesting that that works that way. So congratulations, Blue Acorn. We had a couple other pieces that we looked at. Let me scroll down here. Now, today, people who have been doing artwork for the show, have been listening. You know that we're very traditional when it comes to these types of holidays or celebrate. Right. Yeah. We need holiday stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Can I mention something about the hat trick? Yeah. The two of us tend to eschew. Use that word. Oh yeah. We can't let him win. We can't let him win. The hat tricks.
Starting point is 02:06:52 And, you know, oh, he's going for three in a row. Now, let's find something that's better. Let's screw him. But just so you know how hard it is to achieve. a three in a row like that. It's very difficult. Yeah. There were a couple of MOU.
Starting point is 02:07:11 It wasn't really anything that great. It stood out. It stood out as a good piece. So, yeah, so today we'll obviously be looking for something. Noagendaartgenerator.com, by the way, is where you can submit your art during the show, no agendaartgenerator.com. Today is Father's Day in America, not with the European Catholics.
Starting point is 02:07:33 And here's my observation. I may have made the same observation last year, but I get more men and fathers congratulating me on Father's Day than children or women. And this has been quite the thing where the fathers are lifting each other up. Hey, man, like, you know, rob the constitutional lawyer, you know, all kinds of people, just men, fathers who will, we send each other. Happy Father's Day. Tina forgot.
Starting point is 02:08:08 And it wasn't, it wasn't, and you know, I'm like, whatever. And I'm a stepdad and I treat her girls as my own. And so we walk into the church and the kids are giving Little Father's Day pen gifts. And he says, oh, wow, happy Father's Day. And it really hit me. It's like, we have been so brainwashed about dads. You talk about the unnecessary gay men kissing in Netflix and Prime TV shows. Every single dad is always a dofus.
Starting point is 02:08:43 Homer Simpson, everybody loves Raymond, you know, was it Bundy? What was that show called? Married with children. All dads are portrayed as idiots in commercials. I was like, oh, I bought the wrong nothing powder. We're portrayed. Culture has turned us into dumboes. Buffoons.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Buffoons. There it is. That's the right word. Buffoons. And it's paying off because now even my own wife didn't even think of happy Father's Day. We've been turned into blithering buffoons. Nothing matters. You're not important.
Starting point is 02:09:26 You're no good. You're not doing anything. And it's, it's scandalous, quite honestly. War on men. Okay, let me tag that one. All right. It's scandalous. And it's an outrage.
Starting point is 02:09:43 And it is kind of scandalous. It is. It is. And we shouldn't stand for it. You should not stand for this anymore. Dads are important. They do good things. We do.
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Starting point is 02:10:53 There you go. Another dad wishing us Happy Father's Day. I should read my list of people. Men, all men. Men. I got one from Tina's sister. That was very nice. So there's Pastor Jimmy.
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Starting point is 02:11:30 See? Because no one, did you get any Father's Day well wishes from... From Jay. Well, yes, she works with you. She has to. It'd be very weird if she forgot. Anyway, back to Sir Scovey's note. Happy Father's Day, gentlemen.
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Starting point is 02:15:57 a no agenda, science is turning into a clique. There you go. Manuka Gold's up in Hudson, Florida, 33333. He writes, Hello, gentlemen, we wanted to start with a customer shoutout. We get so many nice emails and notes from the no agenda listeners this week. Daniel Hall wasn't just supportive of our family business. He also had an incredible amount of integrity,
Starting point is 02:16:27 proving once again that no agenda has the greatest listeners in the world. Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there. Use our new code, courage for 20% off the manukagold.com, for which we're running exclusively for no agenda. And remember that unlike most big warehouse brands, all our honey is cold poured in amber glass jars to help preserve the unique medicinal properties of our Manuka signed the Manuka Gold family. Yeah. I had a cramp last night. A Charlie horse again.
Starting point is 02:17:06 I know. Charlie horse, where? Your leg? Upper left thigh. Oh. So you can't. What happens is you want to get out of bed, but you can't extend your leg. Right.
Starting point is 02:17:16 So I'm hopping. I'm hopping. I'm going to put it next. Maybe something to see. It's not really. And I'm telling you, I put the Manuka Gold on it. It went away. I got back to.
Starting point is 02:17:27 sleep. I don't know what it is, but that stuff works for me. I'm going to pull it next to my bed. I don't get cramps off of them, but man, the Charlie horses, it wakes you up. It like, ah, you ever get one of your foot? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's bad too. Has that increased for you after your, um, your procedure? No, not at all. Any, any, any, uh, any, any benefits? Any benefits? Do you run the, yeah, my blood pressure is way down. I have a more steady heartbeat. Do you run the marathon faster now? No, I still haven't
Starting point is 02:18:00 gotten my any, any, uh, the stamina is getting closer to normal, but not quite. Oh, how's your stamina? Stamina stinks. That's the problem. Sir Optimus. But that could have something to do with being old. Oh.
Starting point is 02:18:16 So, you know, when you get old, you're lose a certain, you lose a step. I got to tell you the past five or six shows, it's like you never had anything happen. Oh, that's good. Exactly the same as before. We'd hope for an improvement.
Starting point is 02:18:32 Yeah, you're not going to get that. Sir Optimus is in San Ramon, California, 333 and 17 cents. Happy Father's Day to you, John, Adam. Happy Father's Day to all the no agenda fathers of Gitmonation. Though I was originally knighted via show the 1500 promo, this donation officially brings me beyond the traditional 1K knighthood threshold. I'm proudly no longer a discount night and will finally order my CigNet ring. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:19:02 My primary mechanism for donating to the show has been my cashback credit card points. Well, that's an interesting idea. The more I spend, the more you win. Exit strategy. No agenda credit card. Yeah, that's what I want. I want people getting a bill at the end of the month that says no agenda on it. That sounds like a great idea.
Starting point is 02:19:20 This has been discussed in the past, but I hope it might help my fellow producers unlock an easy way to trigger donations. Humbly requesting house buying karma here in Danville, California, the Bay Area is so nonsensical. Let's see how long the AI investment circle jerk goes until the bubble pops. God bless you
Starting point is 02:19:39 both, says Sir Optimus. Is that a problem? Is there a problem with the housing in the area? Well, now let you mention it. We can play a bonus clip, one of the rare clips we can play during the donation segment. Wow, a bonus clip. Okay, what is it? Oh, this will be
Starting point is 02:19:55 California house tax scam. Buying a new house in California, congratulations. Sacramento just added $324,000 to your price. No, I'm not joking. It's called AB 130, Section 58.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Page 137 of a budget bill, our buddy Newsom signed last June. Everybody was staring at the HOA fine cap on the front of the bill. Meanwhile, on page 137, They buried the biggest housing tax in California history. Here's how the scam works. The state calculates how many miles the people living in that new house are going to drive for the next 20 years.
Starting point is 02:20:37 And if they're driving more than Sacramento thinks is acceptable, the developer pays a penalty. $2 per extra mile, 20 years deep. Over the life of the fee, $324,000 per home. And that cost doesn't come out of the developer's pocket. It comes out of yours, added to the purchase price or the monthly rent. You bought a $600,000 house? It's now $924,000. Rent was supposed to be $2,500.
Starting point is 02:21:05 Well, now it's $38.50. For what? Because Sacramento doesn't want you driving to work. Oh, and our good friend Ashley Zavala on ABC10, while she's still saying it's just a study. That what lawmakers approved was not a tax. Ashley, read page 137. I'll wait.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Wow. What kind of sucky system is that? Unbelievable. Wow. I don't quite understand it, but it sounds bad. It's going to be, I'm sure there's going to be some suits that will be over. It's just one of these things that keep doing this stuff because Newsom is totally convinced that we don't go all electric even though our grid can't handle it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:43 It's already been calculated. We can't get enough electricity to make everything electric. And now they've determined that, you know, like Berkeley, for example, has been pushing, making the illegal new housing can't have gas in it. No, of course. You have to have all electric. And they were permission. They were permishing.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Promishing. They were permishing. Promishing. The induction, we talked about this. JC had this induction stoves, which apparently have a magnetic field that is so far away from the stove that you can't legitimately cook on them without being maximally punched with this magnetic field, which can be. cancer-inducing. And it's right around the height of your crotch. Yeah, it's not good. No, here's the karma for Sir Optimus. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Wow, that's no good, man. Say the least. Uh, so we're at, which one am I on? Scott, Scott. Scott. Scott. Scott Moore, Moore, Butter, M-O-H-H-R in St. Albert, Alberta, Canada. In the morning. This donation is to be a switcheroo, 60th birthday gift from my brother Michael Morebutter, who lives in Saskatchewan. Could he please get a D-D-D-Dooched and a mac-and-chease jingle? You've been D-Dooched.
Starting point is 02:23:14 Mac and Cheese Life. Mac and Cheese. I came to with 333. Yes. And 333 from Lane Lamarro. Who is. is in Baghdad. Ooh, he's in Baghdad.
Starting point is 02:23:29 He is. 330. Can you hear a speaker just a bit? I'm having trouble with this. Okay, keep going. He's in Baghdad and the Baghdad government IQ 333. Your boots on the ground, buddy is back at the American University of Iraq, Baghdad. You guys have become my buddies from Boise to North Scottsdale and now Baghdad.
Starting point is 02:23:50 Love the absence of ads, loads of laughs, plus relevant info while I live abroad. We want to be your friend, Lane. We definitely want to be your friend. Let us know what's going on there in Baghdad. What's happening? How's the nightlife? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:08 It's probably in the green zone. How are you in the bars? You're in the green zone? That's good. It's very good. Well, talking about green zones, you're going to have to read the next one. This is from dude named Jeff.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Kurt Elaine in Idaho. 250, associate executive producer of credit for him. Dear John and Adam, dude named Jeff here, longtime producer and donor of time and talent. What of my talents has been sharing no agenda in video form? Oh, I know.
Starting point is 02:24:36 I saw this the other day. Years ago, I was making YouTube videos with visuals from the show like the oil pipeline maps, artwork, and the troll room. Unfortunately, that ended with content strikes during COVID, but that passion never faded. Now, thanks to AI and the podcast index, I've started making clips from my own podcast and for friends, including the Noah Jenna show. It's a great way to hit people in the mouth with a zinger from the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Thanks, Adam, for reposting one of my clips on X where you were discussing the laughable football flops. If anyone wants to try it out, make your own clips from a podcast, try out my app, clipperoni.com. Sik, clipperoni, like macaroni, clipporoni.com. It transcribes and finds the viral moments. into shareable video clips. Well, this is good for us, especially if you're a host, a podcast,
Starting point is 02:25:30 and want to share it on platforms like YouTube or TikTok, but like Adam, don't want to spend time in post-production. Let clipporoni.com do the work for you. I'd love to hear what fellow producers think of what I've built. Thank you guys for continuing to bring us the best podcast in the universe,
Starting point is 02:25:45 and may you never find an exit strategy. Yeah, people use clipporoni.com on this show. on this particular episode. Let's see how it works. Yeah, it's very interesting. The Dame Mama Thunders up. She's in the Bitterroot Valley, Missoula, Montana 21212. And she writes,
Starting point is 02:26:06 ITM, boomers. First time donor, long time listener. I was gifted my name. She's the first time donor. You might as a deduced. You've been deduced. I was gifted my damehood. Oh, she has actually been gifted to the damehood.
Starting point is 02:26:20 Yes. by our husband two and a half years ago after the birth of our first son and after just having our second son I realized I'm long overdue for it to donate. This is a switcheroo for my husband. This goes to Troy Funderberg. Oh, good old Troy.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Who we've heard from a lot. Good old Troy. Babe, thank you for being such an incredible husband and father. I fall more and more in love with you every day watching you teach Teddy on his bike and love on Jasper. and love on Jasper fills my heart. Okay.
Starting point is 02:26:54 We are so proud of you and love you so much. Happy Father's Day. This one. Yeah. To the Wheely, best dad in the universe. Obviously, one of the kids says, Wheely. Wheely. Wheely, it's really good.
Starting point is 02:27:07 Jingle request. 33 is the magic number and mac and cheese, huh? Interesting. Please also throw in some millennial karma. Thank you, sir. He's most sincerely. Mabel. Gene.
Starting point is 02:27:19 under Burke, aka Dame Mama Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley. I think, didn't we have a specific millennial karma? I think we did. Millennia, I think we did. Hold on a second. Millennial. Is it double N? Millennial.
Starting point is 02:27:41 Yes. We had, I don't know if this is, no, that's not it. Millennial karma. I thought we had. a millennial karma. No. Now, now I'm obsessed with it.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Hold on me. See, where is? Yeah, he's obsessed. He's going to never get, the show's never going to end. Yeah, all right, here we go. 33, that's the magic number.
Starting point is 02:28:08 It's the magic number. You slaves can get used to Macon cheese. Macon cheese. Maconie and Cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.
Starting point is 02:28:27 Hey, everybody. You've got karma. I knew it was in there somewhere. And there's La Jolla Salt Corporation coming in with $210.66 from La Jolla, California, and says, hobnobbing among lunar economy pioneers preparing for the IPO of our new Arm Salt X. We wish to pause and suggest produce. purchase a sea salt scrub for themselves, their friends and family. Nothing quite addresses the punishing effects of the frozen dark vacuum of lunar environments
Starting point is 02:29:01 like a premium sea salt scrub. At loyasalt.com, our scrubs are a small batch handcrafted all natural way to nourish your skin on earth or off. Enjoy the luxurious sense and fresh, clean feel every time. People, please support the show and follow No Agenda Podcast on Instagram. Yeah, there you go. And wind up by saying, go podcasting. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:29:29 You notice that the previous donation was the first one that wasn't from a dude saying happy Father's Day. Interesting. I'm just noticing. In fact, we get another example coming, Eli the coffee guy. And 200, which is unusual. Yeah, there's no, no coded date. No coded date in there. And no name of city that came through the spreadsheet, oddly.
Starting point is 02:29:57 He writes, I'm fortunate to have two fathers. My dad, who is 83, still bowls twice a week and runs a computer repair business. My stepdad passed last year from complications of a bypass. Add to that, the father figures of my uncles and grandpa who are union pipe coverers. Needless to say, I have all of them to thank for the man I am today. To thank for as I. and I strive to be that same role model for my son. Happy Father's Day, all.
Starting point is 02:30:25 It takes a real man to raise real men, and those men need real coffee. So visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use the code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Happy Father's Day and stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee. That is great. Still loving that cold brew, Eli. Thank you. Hey, there's the Indino Agenda Meetup from Greenwood, Indiana. That's Sir Mark and Day Maria host that every single
Starting point is 02:30:49 month, $200. This is the Indy and a meetup switcheroo. And Dame Cindy of the Tito's gets the associate executive producer. And she says, no, no double up karma. Not entirely true, but we'll give it to you. You've got karma. Which moves is the Linda Lupatkin and Castle Rock, Colorado. Linda Lupatkin, $200. Jobs, Karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression. And most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersink.com. Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers can see the value. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K.
Starting point is 02:31:31 And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and Writer of Winning Resumays Best, Linda. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and Jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yuta. Karma. That wraps up our associate and executive producers. No. Oh, we have one more. I'm sorry. Two more.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Oh, I'm so wrong. You're right. I was wrong. Dakota Walker, Portland, Maine, $200. Hi, John and Adam. With today's donation of $200, I believe I've finally reached Nighthood, accounting below, confirmed. I have completely goofed on my last donation note where I asked for help obtaining vaccine exemption for my kids in Maine. I gave the wrong email address. If anyone has helpful information, please send it to the correct email address, 6607 Walker at gmail.com. So exemption for the kids in Portland, Maine.
Starting point is 02:32:25 It's a real problem up there. Email address 6607 Walker at gmail.com. Request, think of the children jingle, house buying karma. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers in Gipmo Nation. Please think of the children. You've got karma. And now we're at the end with Amy Lynn in Cold Spring, Minnesota. 200.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Happy Father's Day, gents. There you go. There's a lady telling us. Happy Father's Day. Second one. This is a switcheroo for my smoking hot.
Starting point is 02:33:03 Huzz. Huzz. Dan the man. Huzz. Happy Father's Day. And thank you for always supporting Zaley. Zaley and I,
Starting point is 02:33:13 no matter what. Z. Z. Zee. Zee. Zeele. Zeeley. It just looks like Xili.
Starting point is 02:33:22 It looks like. X-Lax. What life throws at us and to respond to his Mother's Day donation for me. Ah. Amy Lynn is not a stripper. You're welcome for keeping this house together. Ha-ha. Parenting a teenage girl is hard.
Starting point is 02:33:39 But we got this. On another note, if you're looking for down-to-earth fun hairstylist, come see me at my suite in Waite Park, Minnesota. Refreshed. It's called the Refreshed Hairstressed. hair studio. Let's quote, do this. Smiley face. Last but not least, thank you, too, for the biweekly media deconstruction and entertainment. It's immensely appreciated and enjoyed. Sincerely,
Starting point is 02:34:10 Amy Lynn, not a stripper. Oh, wow. Oh, bummer. All right, now we get to thank all of our executive and associate executive producers. These credits are the real deal. You can use them anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDB.com. We appreciate you. And congratulations with your credits. Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Shut up. And we continue down the list, $50 or above, never under 50 for reasons of anonymity. And Amy Harmon comes in from Asheville, North Carolina. 177 and 60 cents. Ah, it is a 1776 donation. Waza, Waza!
Starting point is 02:35:01 To the best dad in the universe who doesn't listen to the show, but I hit in her mouth all the time. X-O-X-O-X-O. Hey, come on, Dad. Stuart Walton from Staffordshire, that's in England, 105.61. And he made a $100.25 one for every year since Dad died. Donation to the show in honor of my late father, Ken Walton, CBE, that's a citizen of the British Empire on Father's Day,
Starting point is 02:35:28 21st of June. This is my six annual Father's Day donation, honor of my late father, Ken Walton, CB, who died of a heart attack, age 71, on Father's Day, June 2001, 25 years ago, putting for a birdie on the 11th Green at Bishop's Stortford Golf Club, died too young to see all his grandchildren have succeeded, and I miss him every day.
Starting point is 02:35:50 A real-life commander, oh, commander of the British Empire, pardon me, commander of the British Empire, awarded on the Queen's birthday honor list in 1984 for services to British industry. Oh, that's a very nice. That's a nighting. That is a nighting.
Starting point is 02:36:07 Emily, in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska, 10535, saw the newsletter for the first time when the link was on Noah Jenner's Instagram story. Aha! So here's someone who founded, found us through the Instagram. Instagram story, no less. Jay is really rocking it. Been listening for years by the recommendation of Saddle Tramp Brand on Instagram. Please, D.D.
Starting point is 02:36:29 me. You've been deduced. Richard J. Lindquist with $100. Thank you. Your favorite pool guy, Austin, Roseville, California, $100, drinking blantons with my dad out of his houseboat at Lake Shasta in Northern California. Happy Father's Day, man, your favorite pool guy, Austin. Ian Field, $100, James Dillmore, Chipley, Florida, $100, no longer a dish, douche, get a de-dush. You've been de-duished.
Starting point is 02:36:57 Tim Heasel, came in with the the boob donation plus fees. So that's 8438. Thank you very much. Sir, becoming heroic in Sherrerville, Indiana. Also, a boob donation with fees, 8429. Happy Father's Day in Heaven. Sir, becoming heroic. Sir, Kevin McLaughlin, Archduke of Luna, lover of America and booze from Concord, North Carolina, with 80808.
Starting point is 02:37:19 God bless America and boobs. Sir Marv Santella, Santella in Tucson, Arizona, 7344. and he wants a shout out to his son, Corey Santella, his first Father's Day. Congrats, many more to come from Sir Marve. Nicholas Leary, Columbus, Ohio, 7272, Sir Doherty in Stevens, City, Virginia. Happy Father's Day, Sir, Not Jake, from Sir Doherty, 5678, 5678, we see it. Double Nicholas and Dime from Danielle Williams in Weed, California. Lydia Terry, Rochester, New Hampshire, 53, 33, Matthew Funk, St. Helen's, Oregon,
Starting point is 02:37:55 52.72. Bob Funk, happy 50th Father's Day to the best father in the universe. Sir Selverin, Silver Spring, Maryland, 5272, Happy Father's Day from Sir Selverin of the D.C. Swamp. Have a wonderful Father's Day and first day of summer. Carl Vogler, 5272. Thanks us for the sanity. You're welcome.
Starting point is 02:38:17 Sir James Durante, San Diego, California, 5272. Happy Father's Day to Adam and John. Also, happy Father's Day to my dad. and myself, Sir James Durante of Durante of San Diego. Love Dame Nancy of the Confuse. I think it's just Dame Nancy of the Confuse. San Bruno, California, 5244. Thank you for working on Father's Day.
Starting point is 02:38:40 Yes. May we point that out. We work on all kinds of holidays. Forrest Martin, $50. Here are the 50s. Isaac Boini and Water, Burry, Vermont. Long-term freeloader. Please do you do you.
Starting point is 02:38:55 You've been deduced. John Fitzpatrick from Herber Springs, uh, er, A.R is what is Arizona? Arkansas. And that's, I should mention that we only have two 50s. That's it.
Starting point is 02:39:11 And we didn't get the checks this week. Oh. Because the post office was closed on the dubious holiday called Juneteenth. Ah, so you did not get your pickles either. I didn't. Pickles. Your Louisiana Dill pickles. I thought there's already came.
Starting point is 02:39:27 Well, you didn't mention it. Did you get them? Yeah. Did you try him? Well, I'm on a no-salt diet, so I haven't tried them yet. Oh, that's a bummer. Oh, man. When can you ever eat them again?
Starting point is 02:39:43 Can you ever eat? I think, yeah, but it won't be like tomorrow. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I was all excited to hear you how wonderful. Because when you taste these pickles, you'll never want any other pickles again. Well, they're in a secure place. They're in the skiff. In the skiff.
Starting point is 02:40:02 They're all set in the skiff. Thank you, everybody, for supporting the no agenda show. Go to noagenda donations.com and make a donation. You can even set one up as a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you. That's how value for value works. Noagenda donations.com. He says happy birthday to Steve Brockie turned 66 on the 22nd.
Starting point is 02:40:30 And Scott Moorebutter wishes his brother and gave him a switch to him. Michael Moore Butter, a very happy birthday. He turned 60 years old. And so we say, yeah, happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Yeah, we got a really big title changes. Turn and facelessly. Nice changes. Don't want to be a douche.
Starting point is 02:40:52 Yeah, we got a really big title change. and that means it is time for a jingle because Sir Scovey now becomes the Grand Duke of the No Agenda Show and that is quite the big deal to be a Grand Duke and with that donation he also
Starting point is 02:41:09 will be a knight, a red knight in the order of the heart and we might as well get those guys out. Behold the Ophure of purpose right from the start so we would like to congratulate Sir Scovey
Starting point is 02:41:33 henceforth to be known as Grand Duke of the Piedmont. And, sir, your honest mechanic, both of you, support the No Agenda Show and precisely the right amount to become Red Knight's Order of the Heart. Congratulations to the both of you. Behold the... Pure of purpose right from the start in the morning... Reminder that you need to go to Noagenda rings.com
Starting point is 02:42:07 to let us know where to send your... If you don't already have a Noagenda night ring, you will get that added as well, but you need to go there for your special pin and your certificate that you are a Red Knight Order of the Heart by going to knowagendorrings.com. Now we have one night to bring up on the podium here. Yeah, I got the blade right here.
Starting point is 02:42:28 Woo, it's a beauty, everybody. Dakota Walker. Come on. Yeah, you can just walk around the, yeah, there's the steps up there. Perfect. He's on the podium. Thank you very much for your,
Starting point is 02:42:41 support of no agenda, the amount of $1,000 or more. That makes you an official night of the Noagena Roundtable. I'm proud to pronounce the Gat V as Sir Dakota Walker. For you, sir, we have hookers and blow, rent boys, and chardonnay. We've got, uh, dyed soda and video games on beta. We've got beer and blunts. We've got cowgirls and coffee varners, Rubeness, Ruben and Rosea, Gason and Sakein and sake, Bakken vanilla, bonnet, and sparkling cider, and escort, chintrail and gerbils, breast milk
Starting point is 02:43:09 and pablum. And of course, as always in the roundtable, mutton and meat. Who doesn't love the mutton and the meat? And you too, sir, go to noagendarings.com. We'll be happy to send you your no agenda night ring. All we need from you is your ring size, which you can size conveniently with the ring sizing guide on the website. Send us your address.
Starting point is 02:43:26 We'll get it to you. It is a signet ring, so it comes with wax to seal your important correspondence. And as always, a certificate of authenticity. Welcome to the round table, sir, Dakota Walker. No agenda The party's always on with the no agenda meetups and they take place all around the globe
Starting point is 02:43:50 on all days of the week and this is the latest from Leo Bravo up there in Los Angeles in Wilmington, California actually for I think this was number 76. Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 76. I'm going to pass the phone around
Starting point is 02:44:05 my friends have things to say. By Leo, I'm here, R.T. in San Pedro. Enjoy the show for many years, guys. Hey, John and I'm Svali. Kim Fo Pop just here in beautiful Wilmington, California, just enjoying the day after Juneteenth. Tallyho.
Starting point is 02:44:22 This is Angie from the ranch enjoying this lovely company here for the No Agenda Meetup with Leo Bravo. I am not the server. This is Eric, the computer. I am not the server either, so I don't know who the server is this time. This is Donna in the morning.
Starting point is 02:44:37 Hi, Tina. Hi, hi John. Hi, Adam. Hi, Mimi. I hope you all are doing great. Hey, this is B. Dizzle and, uh, hey, Leo, fix it since, thanks. I grew up. Hello from B. Dizzle in the morning and, no, I don't know, hold on.
Starting point is 02:44:58 This is Commodore Kirk in the morning. In the morning. In the morning. Love Leo Bravo and his merry band in Los Angeles in the area there. A lot of people in that area who come to the meetups. But the biggest one is always the, one that Annette Miller puts together in a great meetup report. It is the indie meetup.
Starting point is 02:45:16 Hi, this is Sir Mark. And this is Dave Maria having a fantastic time with our no agenda family. It's super stoked to be watching the UFC. Hey there, this is the Viscount of Hamilton and the Two Pennies having a great time at this meetup. Sir, Betty, just wishing everybody a happy
Starting point is 02:45:32 flag day. Oh, this is Serap over the maple and it is King Charles's birthday to... Donald Trump's birthday today. Tom G. from Carmel suggestion for John. when fisting nuts in public, be sure to select cocktail peanuts, not red skin
Starting point is 02:45:48 peanuts. Hey, it's Nick. Happy Japan v. Netherlands World Cup Day, everybody. Thank you. Hey, this is Emily here. Your shufflecrat and spook. Learning all about drugs and shut out to all my people on the border, because I work with you in HR.
Starting point is 02:46:03 Burski here, just enjoying the good company. Gary here. Happy birthday, King Trump. That too soon. Hi, this is Dame Cindy of the Tito's. I think my next name will be named Cindy of the Nut Queens. I think that's what Benny suggested. Anyway, thanks to Mark and Maria,
Starting point is 02:46:18 and we are certified landmine-free. Hello, guys, it's Emma. I'm a server here at Blind Out Brewery. I have this wonderful group, no agenda. They have been wonderful. Y'all come down on 60 Second and Bifford. Y'all come see us. We got some freshly brewed beer,
Starting point is 02:46:32 some made-to-scratch kitchen items. Y'all come see us. Thank you. Happy Blind Day. Thanks, King Don. That server had a clue. Yeah, oh yeah. This is exactly what server should do.
Starting point is 02:46:47 Come on down. We got the freshly brewed beer. We got scratch from the kitchen. Oh, yeah. What a promotion. That's how you do it. Yeah, that was dynamite. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 02:46:56 So Scott Old, A-U-L-D, added an emergency, emergency meetup at pipe smoke and cheeseburgers. That's in Charm City. And Boceraton, the mouth of the rat. Boca Raton, Florida, Charm City Burger Company. Started about an hour ago. So if you're in the area, go say hi. There's never a good idea to do a meetup announcement on the day of, but we'll see if that worked out for you.
Starting point is 02:47:23 For Friday, that's the next meetups that we have on the list. We have Zone Spooky Kinder Meeting. Oh, that's in Berlin. Hello, Deutschland. That came in at the last minute, too. Zone Spooky Kinder meeting. Hmm. Berlin, Germany.
Starting point is 02:47:39 Right. Spooky, huh? And Rotterdam in the Netherlands on the 26th. Time to exchange notes. Yes, please. We need some meetup reports from you guys. On the 27th, we have Fort Wayne, Indiana, and, of course, the Get John at the House meet up in Albany, California.
Starting point is 02:47:55 Go meet John. Bring a head on a stick of me, if you don't mind. Houston, Texas, on the 27th to 28th, Decatur, Alabama, and Longview, Texas, also on the 8th. On the 2nd of July, Raleigh, North Carolina, the 11th, Eagle, Idaho, the 14th, Scottsdale. Arizona, Asheville, North Carolina on the 15th, and Charlotte, North Carolina on the 16th. You guys are going to be really into your meetups.
Starting point is 02:48:16 And there's a lot more in August, in September. We go all the way through October. You can find all of them at Knowagenda Meetups.com. This is free. There's no cost to do it. No cost to entry. You just go and find people, make connections. It gives you protections.
Starting point is 02:48:29 Every single one of the people you meet at these meetups will be a first responder for you in case of any emergency. The meetups, they make you stable. It makes you able. go to know agenda meetups.com. If you can't find one near you, here's an idea, start one yourself.
Starting point is 02:48:43 It's free, it's easy, and guaranteed, always a party. And we have John's tip of the day. People complaining about your poop gummies. Didn't think it was a good tip. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:49:17 You know what? What? No, I'm just asking. No, I don't. What? I don't know. What? I don't know what.
Starting point is 02:49:25 So, the tip of the day is coming up next. And, of course, we have our end of show mixes. But before we do that, we'd like to select an ISO, something we play at the very end of the show. And I have real people. John has been working as AI robot again. So I'll start. No. These are real people.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Oh, real people saying real things that we're. weren't AI generated. Of course. Here's mine, the first one. Going to the well. Good. I thought that was pretty good, actually. How about this? Gosh, I can't think of anything more important than this. I'm glad you liked that one.
Starting point is 02:50:04 That's a good one. I agree with all of that. Yes, 100%. I think I have a bit of a contender here. Gosh, I can't think of anything more important than this. That's pretty good All right, what do you have? I don't know where you got that one. I have a couple of, I got a Biden. The No Agenda podcast is great.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Not a joke. I'm serious. Not kidding. It's never going to win with me. But you don't like Biden? It's just, there's no energy. It's not a way to end the show. No energy from Biden.
Starting point is 02:50:35 Wow, that's a shocker. I know. So why even try? And besides it too long, there's need to be three seconds. These are five seconds. Oh, let's go with, uh, Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Real Mission Impossible is he's actually finding a better podcast than no agenda. You know, do they give you a video with this at the same time? Yeah. Yeah, why don't you post the video on X? I already did. That'll be better than that. No, I think my ISO wins. You're laughing at my ISO.
Starting point is 02:51:02 Yeah, I think it does. But nobody can beat John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCP. And sometimes... Of course. Of course, you lost it. I did.
Starting point is 02:51:23 You're going to have to stop tape. All right. Stop tape, everybody. Stop tape. What does that mean? You have to go somewhere else? No, I have to go... I have to go...
Starting point is 02:51:33 I closed the browser, which had the information opened. No, I'm never going to edit this out. This is too good. Yeah, you will. Hold on a second. It won't take me but a second. It's like you're looking up the thing.
Starting point is 02:51:44 from Malone. Yeah, that's my point. Exactly. Yeah, except the payoff was bigger. Depends on what this is going to be. Payoff was much bigger with Malone. I found a clip that said Malone 6, wow, and knew it was the one. I mean, that is saying something.
Starting point is 02:52:04 Oh, man. Let's see if I can play something to entertain people in the news. Yeah, play something to entertain. That wasn't very excited. Well, that didn't do anything. No. John C. Dvorak's pet peeve of day. Wow, we haven't played that in a long time.
Starting point is 02:52:26 If you see something, say something. Fact trick false. Oh my God! Listen to that horn! The distraction of the week. Hey. Oh, no. What's shend of a cold for there?
Starting point is 02:52:44 Nothing to see here. Oh, look at that. Did you find it? You know, this is annoying now. You can't find it. Hold on a second. Just look under email from Mimi. I'm doing, hold on this.
Starting point is 02:53:18 Let's see if it's it. Yeah, okay. I found it. Oh, amen. Jeez. This is, it's not, I should have remembered it, but I just couldn't quite, I had to make sure I got it right.
Starting point is 02:53:34 This came in from Dane Bang Bang, by the way. Oh, all right. This is a pre-July 4th tip of the day. It's for people who are going to drive, which I think is most people. There's a website. You should put on your list of websites called pure dash gas.org. Pure dash.gast.org. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Yeah, and this is a list of all the gas stations in the country that don't put ethanol in the blend. Oh. Because a lot of people don't like, that it's not necessarily good for a lot of cars to have ethanol, because a lot of people put 10% ethanol in their gasoline to stretch it. And the ethanol is sometimes dangerous
Starting point is 02:54:15 to certain hoses and things. Pets. Hey, my gas station in Fredericksburg is on the list. Yeah, well, it's one of the stations. Now, that said, I will mention that this family here, we have two cars that run pretty much run ethanol. The E85 flexig gas cars are fabulous because right now in California, if you have an E85 car,
Starting point is 02:54:47 you can use 85% ethanol and it sells for $3.50 as opposed to $6. Oh, amazing. But yeah, puregast.org. This is for people that are freaky about their gasoline. they want pure gasoline and not watered down. A breaking news, Vance is shaking hands and hugging with the Iranians in Switzerland. Then he won't get blamed. No, he won't get blamed, but they still might get blowed up.
Starting point is 02:55:18 Wow, that's amazing. Well, that's good news. That's a good way to finish the show. That is. And a good tip of the day, John. Now I know that I am getting my gas at the right place. These people are good. I like these people.
Starting point is 02:55:31 It's a family-owned business, too. There it is, everybody. Get all of the tips at Noagendafund.com. Tip the date on that. Created files for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes, Adam. Created by Dana Burnettie.
Starting point is 02:55:47 And there you go. It ends our broadcast day. Wow, everything just fit in perfectly. So good. So good, so good. Stay tuned, though, to Noagendatestream.com, or if you're listening on the modern podcast app, We have OBDM, our big dumb mouth coming up next with World Cup UFO abduction.
Starting point is 02:56:06 Oh, cool. Nothing screams second half of show than that, does it? That's beautiful. Thank you, trolls, for being here with us. And happy Father's Day, everybody. Especially for, you know, actual dads out there. It's okay. We guys can say that to each other.
Starting point is 02:56:20 End of show mixes from Cam, Molly Barry, and MVP. And as always, we will return on Thursday to bring you more. our media deconstruction, help you understand what's going on in your world with a couple of laughs and gaffes as well. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVorek. Please join us on Thursday. We look forward to it.
Starting point is 02:56:48 Enjoy your Father's Day. John, happy Father's Day to you. And happy Father's Day to you. And we'll see you on Thursday. us please at no agendaindedonatonatons.com. Value for value for your time, talent, and treasure. Until then, adios, mofos. Hooy, hooey, hooey, and such.
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Starting point is 02:57:24 It's a diplomatic tango on a tie-rope string. Oh, baby, waiting, hear the clips. gender will bring dumb wop did um yeah dumbwop de down now the tankers are sailing through the narrow through one day it's crossing the line
Starting point is 02:57:46 we check the news every single day is it war is it peace or just a power play oh the deal is on shoe up, shoe up wait the deal is off shoe up the straight is open let the tankers roll oops it's closed again
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