No Agenda - 1884 - "Code Brown"

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1884 - "Code Brown Code Brown Rubbelizer Donation Sir JackAsh, "Red" Baron of Wandering Saskitches Executive Producers: Sir JackAsh, "Red" Baron of Wandering Saskitches Dame Lizza...rd, Keeper of the Squatch Dame Eizilla, Pixie of Cascadia Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool the 1st Sir Jeff, Viscount of PA Route 33 Manuka Gold Chris Dubendorf Associate Executive Producers: Sir Cadian Rebecca Haugh Michelle Winton Stefan Trockels Kristin Smith — dealson.tech Sir Dude Named Ralph Eli the Coffee Guy — Gigawatt Coffee Roasters (code ITM20) Gina Placanico Christine Bonus (switcheroo from Sir Vivor of Aneurysm) Linda Lupatkin — Imagemakers Ink, Duchess of Jobs Dude Named Jeff Sir Vivor of Aneurysm Knights and Dames: Sir Jackash > "Red" Baron of Wandering Saskitches Sir Jeff Baron of PA Route 33 > Viscount of PA Route 33 Richard Claypool > Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool the 1st Christian > Sir Racha of the Spicy Mountains Lizzard > Dame Lizzard, Keeper of the Squatch Eizilla > Dame Eizilla, Pixie of Cascadia Order of the Heart: Sir Jackash Dame Lizzard Dame Eizilla End of Show Mixes: Jus Baker (Hormuz Heat) Paurian (Artificial — ITM Mix) Second Half Flex Art By: Interrobang Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Last Modified 07/09/2026 16:25:56 by Freedom Controller  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is like a suicide cult. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorex. It's Thursday, July 9th, 20206. This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media Assassination Episode 1884. This is no agenda. Has anyone seen a stork? Not me, but we are broadcasting live from the Southern District of Amsterdam, the Netherlands in the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering who would name a kid Graham. I'm John C. DeVore. It's crackpot and Buzzkill In the morning What kid's name is Graham? Graham Platner
Starting point is 00:00:37 You're not over here So you don't get to see this 24-7 coverage You said Graham, not Graham You said Graham His name is Graham Not Graham Like a Graham It's pronounced Graham
Starting point is 00:00:49 No it's Graham Graham Graham Graham Graham, yes If you had said Graham It would have been obvious
Starting point is 00:00:56 Graham No it's not Graham Okay You can say what you want Okay, well, so yes, I'm aware of the new cycle. I'm aware of it. But that's not what I'm stuck with here. You're stuck there is what you're stuck with.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I'm stuck here, but I'm stuck here with... Well, like I said, it's coming Tuesday, so... Get ready. The day we're back. The day we're back, yes. You never said it was coming Tuesday, did you? Yeah, I did. Oh, because you know I'm coming back Monday. Well, you're going to miss the baby then.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah, no kidding. my daughters Just stay a couple extra days We've already been here By Monday we'll have been here for two weeks We're running out of everything Time flies Time flies
Starting point is 00:01:43 And of course Now You know everyone here is like Oh Oh you're from America Stupid Trump Try to Try to get
Starting point is 00:01:54 Try to rig the game with the red card we showed you, didn't you? Yeah, all day long. It's amazing. Well, I think that it was corrupted to begin with, and the reason that they did that, it had nothing to do with Trump. It was to make him look like he did something
Starting point is 00:02:16 other than just make a call. Yeah, that's exactly what I did. But they had to put that player back in because these games are, as you and I know, rigged. These games are rigged. Rigged, yes. And they knew that if they left that player out, the striker that they
Starting point is 00:02:29 Red carded then they have to listen to the whining Americans. Yeah. Yeah. You guys screwed us. We would have won the championship. Someone's hearing a buzz.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Hold on. I thought I heard it too. Hold on. I'm hearing it too. Somebody's hearing a buzz? Yeah. There we go. I can move some wires around.
Starting point is 00:02:50 No, no, it's not you. No, it's not you. It's me. It's me. That's what she said. Here's the clip. And he gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I didn't think it meant much. Then I started hearing that that means he can't play in the next game, at least in the next game. I said, boy, that's a big, you know, if it happened to another player, it would have been unfair. But when they take your best player or just about, they have some great players. And they say you can't play. That's very unfair. That's, you know, it's one thing to penalize somebody for the game. But how do you penalize them for a game that hasn't been played yet?
Starting point is 00:03:30 It's very unfair. You can't do that. Yes, I asked for a review. Oh, a review. I spoke to a man who's... I found the source of this whole Trump called him, made him change it. It was the New York Times with four sources, unnamed, anonymous sources, familiar with the phone call. Highly respected.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And by the way, whose level of respect has gone up tenfold. and he was good before this started. But, you know, he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one that got them to do it. It was not Biden. See, what people don't understand, and it doesn't even, I don't even have to try and explain it here, commies. What people don't understand is Trump's not talking about fair?
Starting point is 00:04:15 He's talking about the excitement of the game. He's thinking of television. That's what he's thinking of. He's like, hey, we've got to have the star players in there. You can't take the star players. It was great when they threw him out and they played with 10 guys for the rest of the game. That's great television. You can't have that guy not show up in the next game, even though it's the rule.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That's what it was about. People don't understand him. We are the Trump whisperers. We understand our president. We're some of the last and the very few, I believe. Maybe. I'm not kidding. People are just, they roll their eyes at me.
Starting point is 00:04:52 They roll their eyes. Yeah, man. A guy tried to cheat. I don't care what you say. It's useless. All right. So if it's such a big news cycle that you had to start it out at the beginning of the show off with you, do you have any gram platinum clips that you want to share?
Starting point is 00:05:11 I have a, yeah, I do have a classic that I thought, if anyone would appreciate it to be you. All right. Because it's from the pivot. These are the, you're buddies. Kara and Professor, can you turn your speakers? down just a tad. Kara and Professor Scott, let me guess, because I've seen some of these come through on the timeline where Elizabeth Warren is saying, that's my guy.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So probably, I'm sure. Well, yeah, they've been loading these things up. I don't really have a lot of platinum clips. I just thought it would be worthwhile to play this one because it's one of the most extreme examples of a very biased and almost pathetic attitude. about things. I personally, I'm going to just very quickly say, I think voters don't care about this. I don't, and I thought
Starting point is 00:05:59 his wife handled it well. I have others, I had an argument with Amanda this weekend. She doesn't like the Nazi tattoo. She doesn't like this. I feel as if... Amanda doesn't like the Nazi tattoo. Who does? If the husband and wife are working it out, it remind me a little when
Starting point is 00:06:15 Hillary Clinton did, should I stand by my man when he had those Jennifer Flowers things? It reminds me a little bit of that. turn out to be a pretty good president. I don't get bothered by it as much, none of it. I think he's, as Amanda Littman correctly said, he's someone who had a drinking problem as a Marine, probably got that tattoo, has some mental health challenges, which he's trying to overcome, marriage problems, which his wife is insisting they're going to counselors and overcoming.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That list is your typical Democrat. That's perfect. I mean, let's just hear that list again. Nazi tattoo, it's got drinking problems, relationship problems. Problem is a Marine, probably got that tattoo, has mental health challenges, which he's trying to overcome. Mental challenges which he's trying to overcome. Yeah. You have to stop the clip and let me explain something that I think is important. Oh, please. Which is that you're right.
Starting point is 00:07:11 This is the Democrats' laundry list of what they think, of what they think the working class is. Yes, drinking problem. They have no connection. She has no. The professor has no connection with this, you know, there's Democrats and their working class, which they haven't represented for, I don't know. Since we've been doing the shows. Since we've been doing the show. Yeah, definitely since we've been doing this.
Starting point is 00:07:39 They're so dissociated from the working class that their imaginary working class person is what she's describing. Yes, an oyster farmer. And farthest thing from the truth there is. An oyster farmer with a drinking problem, a Nazi tattoo, mental health issues, which he's working on, and relationship issues. Yes, that's your voter. A little bit of that turned out to be a pretty good president. I don't get bothered by it as much, none of it. I think he's, as Amanda Littman correctly said, he's someone who had a drinking problem as a Marine, probably got that tattoo, has some mental health challenges, which he's trying to overcome, marriage problems, which his wife is insisting they're going to counselors. overcoming. Every election is a choice, not a marriage proposal. We're not hiring a priest. We're hiring a senator. Do you want to make sure that women's rights aren't continued to be rolled back? Do you want a more responsible economic policy? But we're going to talk about fucking tattoos and sexting.
Starting point is 00:08:41 You mean like you did about Pete Hegseth? Okay. I mean, the obsession with personal purity has become a luxury belief. And folks, if your house is on fire, you don't ask whether the firefighter has problematic DMs. Are we going to continue to have one strike in your own? I'm a Jew. I don't love a Tottenkamp tattoo. Okay. If he gets drunk one night and get to... Hold on. Toten Kampf? If you're a real Jew, pronounce it right. Totenkopf. Okay, Totenkopf. Get with it, Scott. Continue to have one strike in your own. I'm a Jew. I don't love a Totenkamp tattoo. Okay, if he gets drunk one night and gets a stupid fucking tattoo, the fact that he's trying to protect our liberties the next day,
Starting point is 00:09:25 it might be blown up by an IED. He gets a hall pass. You're right, he's just totten comp. Toten comp. It's total. It's tough and copf. It's head. It's a head.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Cope. Cope. Cof. We all know copf. Cump. We all know Cumpf. He's my comf. He's my comf.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, that's he's thinking is that way. That's great. That's great. That's great. But now he resigned. He withdrew. He's out. Yeah, he did. But one more thing about what Scott said. He says, are we going to continue to have women's rights rolled back? What is he talking about? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You've seen these. If you go to, I don't do this that much, but if you go to TikTok or Insta or when these places are the reels, all these things. And there'll be men on the street stuff where someone says, well, so what do you want to see about, you know, somebody being interviewed at some protest, and then they say, I don't want to see women's rights rollback. And then the interviewer will say, which women's rights are you talking about? And then they freeze. And there's a long blank stare. And then they say, I'm not participating in this. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to. Yeah. Well, of course, then we have the actual candidates for the Democrat Party. This thing has been circling around a little mini, mini-cut of some of these DSA Democrat Socialists of America.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And it's exactly what we talked about on the last show. This is exactly what they're doing. If they get elected and these were not the candidates in the primary, not the candidates, that Rochana, what's his name? Rocahanna. Don't we just call him Rocahanna? Isn't that his name now? He's a Rochana.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Rocauna. The Rocaana. Rocaana, this is not the people he endorsed, but this is the people. who the people supposedly selected. And, you know, we have a unique responsibility to act from the heart of empire, the belly of the beast. The most important thing that we can do is take that empire down from within. Our role ultimately is to facilitate our own empire's failure in ways that we can, ultimately
Starting point is 00:11:37 to overthrow our own empire. Imperialism is, U.S. imperialism is not a thing that can be reformed away. It has to be overthrown through revolutionary struggle. and to build a mass movement that can use the leverage of workers to hit the kill switch on American imperialism here within the American Empire. Yes, from within the kill switch in the American Empire. Yeah, these people are very pretentious, but did you notice how gender fluid they are? Oh, yeah, yeah, so certainly.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I couldn't tell who was what there. It was just non-binary to an extreme. Well, and this, so just looking at all these different factions, I caught a report on CNN, and it was about the Patriot Front on July 4th who marched on the mall, who took the metro, which is the subway, to the mall. And, you know, we've looked at these guys and we're like, these got to be feds. This has got to be some kind of sci-op going on. But then I'm thinking, hold on a second. Does this mean that Casper tell's FBI or Tulsi Gabbard or Bill Pulte's intelligence operations are still running these guys? And it's a bit polarizing to me.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But the thing that really caught my eye is as I'm listening to the opening of this report, the whole thing is completely framing something that is observably not true. This weekend, in the midst of the country's 250th birthday festivities, a stark and disturbing display emerged from our nation's capital. Stark and disturbing display. On Saturday, when mass members of the white supremacist group, the Patriot Front, marched through Washington, D.C., carrying Confederate flags. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So I stopped here because carrying Confederate flags, I'm literally looking at the video she's showing, and there's no Confederate flag. There's stars and stripes, 50 stars, 13 stripes. There's about 20% are what I'd call the colonial flag with the 13 stars in a circle with a picture of George. Right, right, which is a classic. Yeah, with a picture of George Washington in the circle. Not a single Confederate flag.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Maybe they think that's a Confederate flag. That's how things have, that's how deteriorated the media has become. Well, possibly, but the first thing that she says here is the white supremacist group. And, you know, and so of course you connect white supremacy, white supremacist groups to patriots because they're called the Patriot Front. So that by itself, it's a sci-up, whether it's from them or who knows what it is. But I'm like, I got to look at these guys. What is going on with this group? So they have a website. I'm glad you did this because I thought the whole thing was a fake. Well, so the website, patriot.us, they have an about page, they've got an action page. They've got a manifesto page. Now, this, this I find troubling. Like, why don't you just say here's our mission? But no, they say manifesto. It's very long. And there's no white supremacy language in there per se. They hate government. They feel all politicians have sold out. The military, industrial,
Starting point is 00:15:12 complex. They hate globalism. They want to go back to what America was. They don't like, they want the borders closed. They don't want immigrants coming in from Africa. They don't talk about black people. Now, I don't see any black faces in this Patriot front because they have masks on and it makes a little harder. And it's a little more intimidating because they've got the khakis and they have kind of these uniforms on. But they don't really look like neo-Nazis or KK. and then you look at their action page. And, you know, there's spokes guy. He talks without a mask and his name is known.
Starting point is 00:15:48 He's quite eloquent at speaking. And then they go, you know, life, liberty, victory. Okay. And then you look at their action page. And they're, you know, doing food drives, feeding homeless people, building houses. So, you know, I don't, what, it's me, at least one of our no agenda producers has to be in this group. there's no way that if really what is portrayed on this website that we don't have at least one of them
Starting point is 00:16:18 listening to the show this is kind of my test. The whole thing is just a front for nothing. Well, this is my test. If we don't have a single producer... Oh, that's a good point. We have a million listeners and producers. Somebody's been to the meeting.
Starting point is 00:16:34 That we have a population that is such... Yes, you're absolutely correct. unless there's somebody in there that's connected to the show, it's a fake. It's a phony. It's a phony. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Just a bunch of photos. I pulled a few more clips from the... That's a good point. Well, it was really bothering me because I look at these guys like, but I know guys like this. You know, they go to my church. They help out. They want to, they love their country.
Starting point is 00:17:03 They love their flag. They love their family. I don't think they're racist. You know, they've never shown any racial tend. But so the SIEOP is certainly is working on CNN. Just a couple clips because there was some interesting language that they use here. So whether it's phony or, I mean, it certainly doesn't seem like the right something Trump would want is connecting white supremacy to Patriots and Patriotism. Asked members of the white supremacist group, the Patriot Front, marched through Washington, D.C., carrying Confederate flags and shouting slogans like, quote, reclaim America.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Oh, no! One photographer captured this stunning, now viral photo of a young black woman sitting on a metro car while the masked men surround her. Now, this language is beautiful because these guys are on the metro. They're all taking the metro. No, the whole car is filled with him. They're not surrounding her. The picture doesn't even show her being surrounded. They're not looking at her.
Starting point is 00:18:06 She has a great expression. Nobody cares about her. She has a great expression on you. her face. So then they bring in this dude who was also a witness, who was also on the train. And this is where things got funny. How did they behave
Starting point is 00:18:19 on the train? What sort of sense did you get from them on the car? They were surprisingly very civil and very organized. They were just chatting among themselves like any other people who were sitting or traveling using the metro. Just from what I could hear,
Starting point is 00:18:35 many of them didn't even know each other. I could hear them introducing themselves to another with their full names and asking where they're from and how they're doing. Well, that doesn't sound very scary. Come on. We've got to step this up a little bit because weren't you afraid? Weren't you scary? Wait, how did this picture get taken of you? And you ended up in some photographs taken by a Getty Images photographer. A Getty Images photographer happens to be on the train. It's amazing. What did it say to you that there was a photographer there? That's when it alarmed me.
Starting point is 00:19:06 This is something, you know. But the photographer also gave me some comfort. knowing that somebody was there with a camera, just in case something happens. Because I was realizing if anything happens, I won't be able to identify any of them because they're all dressed the same. So it made me realize to start paying attention. What are they wearing? What's on their hats? What's on their shirts? Just to give me an educated idea who they were.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And I was texting some friends, you know, this is happening. Just want you to be aware that I'm in the middle of a metro by myself. So if anything happens, you know. Oh, you weren't? You were with a black girl. What are you talking about? You weren't by you? Who by myself?
Starting point is 00:19:39 I'm in the middle of a metro by myself. So if anything happens, you know what's happening. Do you have any thought as you're on the train as to who they might be? Like, what's, you know, I know you said you didn't know who they were, but what were you speculating when you see a bunch of white guys with masks and hats? Clearly, they needed to cover their faces for a reason, right?
Starting point is 00:19:59 My mind immediately went to that. They were white supremacists. So, and, you know, I worked for the U.S. Capitol Historical site. Oh, there we go. So my first thing is, I need to remember. this and try to document of what's happening. I'm not comparing myself clearly to real American heroes like Rosa Parks and folks who sat in at, you know, at diners in the 50s and 60s, but I knew this was a moment that I have to kind of be present. This was a moment. So this is a sigh up of
Starting point is 00:20:27 epic proportions. I just want to know who and why and what's behind it. That's all I want to know. again, if we don't have a single person in our audience who has at least been to a meeting, then this is fake. And it's fake from the left. There's just no two ways about it. Yeah, fake from the left. Yeah, this could be a Soros thing or a southern poverty law center thing. The thing that is bothersome is the mask.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You know, why the masks? Yeah, there's no reason for the mask. There's no reason for that. It's the other side that's always mask-oriented with the Palestinian scarf. across their face. That's the tell right there. Oh, you're wearing a mask. There you go.
Starting point is 00:21:12 There you go. It's like, I don't know about this. The whole thing just kind of bothered me. Yeah. So I wanted to get that out. And please, if you've been to a meeting, let us know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And if nobody is. No one's been to me. There's nobody. I mean, this might, maybe Aaroner over at Knowwich and the social, he might be the kind of guy. But they're not even that anti-Jew, you know. So at least not that I can tell.
Starting point is 00:21:36 not in their manifesto, which is another thing. If you and I were going to do a group. Yes, absolutely. You nailed, by the way, that's a great observation. Yeah, we wouldn't. You don't use manifesto. No, we're not going to do that. Ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:21:53 No, it's mission statement or what, you know, Yula. I mean, anything. Yula. So, no, no. But I think we all. were considering them to be feds of some sort. And now I'm just not so sure. Now it seems to be from some other organization.
Starting point is 00:22:16 They look cool, though. And that's not to say that the black girl wasn't afraid. You look that cool. The black girl, she might have been afraid. Like, oh, what is this? What's going on? But you know, I seem pretty nonchalant if you ask me. But a Getty images photographer happens to be there.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Well, that's, yeah, that's because somewhat misleading. Because anybody can be a Getty images. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's once you sign up with them, it's basically you take a lot of, it's like paparazzi. You take a lot of photos, but you've already, you've done a contract deal with them. So if you have any photos that are of national interest, you have to sell to them as opposed to the competition. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Which is Corbus, wherever it is no big deal. Corbus. That day, I think that's exaggerated. Corbus? There's other groups? Yeah. Yeah, it's that group that Microsoft ran, right? created. I can't remember their name.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It's like Corbis or something stupid. Was that part of their encyclopedia? What was there in sight? Their CD-ROM encyclopedia. Yeah, the... Enkarta? In-Cardia. Encarta, yeah. It was a good idea at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah, at the time. When there was no internet and everything was on CD-ROM. Yes. CD-I, CD-Interactive CD-I. Yeah, baby. Back in the day. The CDI went nowhere. Back in the day. So just to wrap that up, yeah, I agree. The only people who wear masks are Antifa, the Palestinian protesters.
Starting point is 00:23:43 It's all crazy from left people. And this, you know, Southern Poverty Law Center has deemed them a white supremacist hate group. That right there tells you something. Yeah. Anyway, let's get to the top of the news with what's really happening. Tonight, as the U.S. launches a new attack on Iran, the second in 2020. 24 hours. President Trump now declaring the ceasefire over. I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them anymore, but they're scum. You know what scum is?
Starting point is 00:24:15 There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. The new U.S. strikes hitting Iran's coastal radar sites and anti-ship missile locations. A larger attack than last night when 80 targets were hit. It comes in response to Iran firing on three cargo ships near the straight of her moves. The big question, what comes next? overnight Iran launching missiles at U.S. bases in the Gulf. Those missiles intercepted. The Pentagon releasing video of more than 20 Navy warships patrolling waters near the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:24:47 President Trump today sending mixed signals, first saying he would let peace talks continue, then a few hours later saying this. I'm not sure I want to make a deal with him. We can play games, but I'm not sure I want to make a deal. Let's just finish the job. And tonight, the calm has been shattered in the oil market. Shattered. Gas prices for Americans.
Starting point is 00:25:06 set to go up. The president asked, are we about to see full-blown war again? I don't think it's going to start again. I think it's going to go very quickly. No, hold on a second. Did you see the structure of the way they presented that? Explain.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's structured as though they were going to see full-blown war and then they cut to him saying, no, I don't think so. Yeah. Okay, and you're surprised by this? This is ABC. No, this is what we do on this show if you haven't noticed. We point this out. It's shattered in the oil markets.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Gas prices for Americans set to go up. The President asked, are we about to see full-blown war again? I don't think it's going to start again. I think it's going to go very quickly. They hit a couple of ships, and so we hit them much harder. When they hit, we hit. So I could write to late Rachel Scott live in Turkey tonight, and Rachel, amid this escalation with Iran right now and the surging oil prices already.
Starting point is 00:26:01 There are also questions. Surging oil price. Surging. Nothing. Surging. It's like it went up to 74 or something. Surging. Turns tonight about this new Air Force won, that gift from Qatar, and why it left Turkey tonight without the president? Yes, David, the president has been touting this new plane, so it was surprising when that
Starting point is 00:26:22 Qatari jet left without him and headed toward the U.K. The president said it was to give troops station there an opportunity to view the plane. But tonight, it is raising new questions about whether security concerns played a factor. the president later departed Turkey on an older model of Air Force One, Dave. Yeah, so before we move on, I just got to play this clip because he did play it down. Like, oh, no, you know, the plane had to go over there, and we had to do something else, and the troops had to look at the new plane. But this was the killer for me.
Starting point is 00:26:52 In one day, all of their anti-aircraft things are gone. That doesn't mean they're not going to get a plane at some point. But all of it's gone. Everything's gone. Their leaders are gone. They had leaders, they're gone, and they had another set of leaders, they're gone. Now they have another set of leaders. They may be gone.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Who knows? And you know what? I may be gone, too, because I'm their number one target. It's out all over the place. I'm their number one because they're scum. That's the way they act, and that's the way they've done it for 47 years. No, I'm number one on the kill list for Iran. They're lovely people.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'm number one. So I don't know. I can't tell you that, but I don't really care because I'm doing my job and I'm doing it. I hope better than anybody's ever done it, because we have a country that's hot and really, really successful. But I mention it only because it's on the list. I mean, it came out. There was another list came out yesterday,
Starting point is 00:27:46 and I'm number one on, I like being number one on TikTok better, but I'm number one on the list for killing. Now, unfortunately, I have to say every single time I have known a politician or heard a politician say, yeah, they're going to, you know, they want to kill me. it has happened. I'll never forget Pim Fortin saying if something happens to me,
Starting point is 00:28:10 those guys did it. And then he got killed. Yeah, well, let's hope that doesn't happen. No, that was cautious enough to send off this, the one jet, let that one get blowed up. Yeah, really? It's like, you know, I'm not a little switcheroo on the jet. So we had dinner with...
Starting point is 00:28:25 We don't even know he was on the other Air Force. He could have been on Air Force too for all, you know. It didn't look like it. I'll be the first, because he came out for a gaggle. And it was not the old Air Force one that he typically travels on. Because I could tell by the, they didn't have the screens in the side panel like it usually does. So it was not his typical Air Force one. Yeah, well, if you're going to the Middle East and you're Trump.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah, you're not going to be flying around. Like, hey, here I am. Fire me. Take a shot. So we had dinner with Lex. I have a couple of... I want to give you a little update. We had a dinner with Lexan Furiba.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Oh, okay. His Iranian wife. He told... Man, he told the story about them getting married. It cracks me up every single time. Because they wanted to stay in the same hotel room together. This is like 16 years ago. And so in order to do that, you have to be married by an imam.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And so he's a Muslim. He had to become a Muslim first. then he got like a stamp and he's got a passport and he's a Muslim. Anyway. So, and I say, you better not leave that. You better, you better stay a Muslim because that's not a good idea. So she's back talking to her family. The internet's open.
Starting point is 00:29:44 The lines are open. Everybody is back to business, although back to business means her family is selling ground coffee. There's not a lot of commerce per se. But the general feeling is that Trump, is working with the Iranians together, and together they're going to get rid of the IRGC, or at least they're going to try to, which the Iranians feel is rather complicated
Starting point is 00:30:13 because they have such deep connections inside the country. Everyone's on the take from those guys. So they feel that there's maybe too many of them. But that's who's popping stuff off. It's the IRGC. It's not the people that... Yeah, and it's dissociated. They're completely dissociated.
Starting point is 00:30:31 rogue anybody can take a pot shot and hey i'm going to do it yeah exactly there's no coordination at all no so so they're hopeful and they they they actually have more trust in trump than than i would have expected i think that he's working with him with the with the third level and and you know they're like why is so the what's his name reza pavre the crown prince he's in holland right now how we're as that. You should go try to track them down. No, I don't think so. I'm not going to do that. Let's listen to these clips from the NPR and the BBC, trying to summarize this.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Okay. Let's start with NPR. I'm looking, I see Al Jazeera. Iran bombing NPR. I'm sorry, I didn't see that one. The U.S. military says it's carrying out another round of strikes on Iran after Iran attacked ships in the Strait of Hormuz earlier this week and retaliation. retaliated for U.S. strikes last night.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Earlier today, President Trump said Iranian attacks signaled the end of the ceasefire, as NPR's Franco Ordonez explains. Trump not only warned that the U.S. would likely hit Iran again, but he also threatened to bring back a naval blockade. I mean, he is clearly frustrated after last night's series of strikes, and he really went off on Iranian leaders calling them Kuku and a bunch of liars. I don't want to deal with them, but they're scum. You know what scum is?
Starting point is 00:32:02 They're scum. They're scum. They're led by sick people. And they're vicious, violent people. Now, the big question is whether calling off the ceasefire is actually a change in policy or simply a negotiating tactic. But Trump did say during the press conference that this would not lead to full-scale fighting again and that anything that happened would be over quickly. Mm-hmm. I like the, you know, we've talked about this before some time ago about the pronunciation of Iran.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yes. We got a lecture from somebody who told us how to pronounce it correctly. Yes. But it's still being pronounced Iran. It's definitely Iran. We know for a fact it's ear on, Iran. Your ear is on, Iran.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And PBS or NPR there has gotten it correctly. Yeah. But you hear, it's almost like there's a code involved. Well, didn't people who mispronounced it. Well, didn't we establish that people who were read in pronounced it Iran and everyone else who doesn't pronounce it Iran is not read in. That's what I recall. I think that was one of our, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 One of our interpretations. Possibly, yeah. Well, here's the BBC. Several Gulf nations have responded to Iranian. Holy crap. That's overmodulated again. Iran, Iranian. See, now they're pronouncing it differently.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Now, okay, now. We can play it. I want to play it. Yeah, let me stop about the overmodulation. Okay. Okay, I've had, I don't know what it is about the BBC, but there's something wrong with their waveform. Their loofs, their loofs are not good.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm telling you, there's something wrong with their waveform, and I can't, because when I'm playing with these clips, I'm not getting any of this, any of this overmodulation, but every time you play it through your system, it comes out. And I'm not sure what this is. do about it. I will do a spectral analysis after the show and figure it out. It could very well be that there's something going on in their processing that is hitting my processing in an odd way. I'm looking at the waveform. It doesn't look flat or anything. This is very technical, everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm glad you're listening in. Several Gulf nations have responded to Iranian attacks after the U.S. launched new air strikes against Iran, including near the Strait of Hormuz. Explosions were reported in the Bahraini capital Manama, while in Kuwait, the military said its air defenses had intercepted missiles and drones. First of all, this guy has a wheelbarrel for those balls, man. That's amazing, that voice. Yeah, it's unbelievable this character. It's crazy. Trump has warned that the attacks on Iran could get much worse. Earlier, Iranian state media reported explosions in several coastal areas. Peter Bowes has more from Washington. Donald Trump is returning to Washington. Now, he has been speaking on Air Force One, where he said, amongst other things, we've just hit them very hard, and I say we hit them 20 to 1. He added that every time they hit us, we're going to hit them 20, as he put it. And he also claimed that Iran had called a little while ago, saying that they wanted to make a deal badly. He said, I just don't know if they're worthy of making a deal.
Starting point is 00:35:30 our international editor Jeremy Bowen has this analysis of the latest developments. What is driving all of this is the fact that the Iranian regime in Tehran have a heck of a weapon in being able to close the Strait of Hormuz. They can put the global economy in days in a chokehold. So that's where we're at. So I think what we're going to see is a lot of these ups and downs, probably more escalations, more oscillations, some more talks. sources very adjacent to the talks have said to me that
Starting point is 00:35:59 neither side is trying to walk away from the talks but equally as taking a lot of heavy lifting to try to get them back to talking. I'm so sick of this they closed the street before moves. They didn't close anything. There's not a row of IRGC paddle boats blocking the straight. This language has got to stop.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I want to play this CBS version of the report, of the Scum, Liars and Cheats report, because at the end there was something, there was something odd and different. The president said today that even though the ceasefire is over, the nuclear talks between the two countries can continue. But with each side trading airstrikes and insults, it's pretty difficult to understand the way forward. they're scum and so we don't like them
Starting point is 00:36:54 I don't like them and they're evil people President Trump unleashed on Iran for attacking three commercial tankers in the Strait of Hormuz this week They're liars They're cheats They're sick people
Starting point is 00:37:07 Just last month Trump called Iran's leaders Very rational people But tonight he's ordered more air strikes Along the Strait of Hormuz Which follows a heavy bombing campaign Tuesday night When U.S. forces hit about 80 targets inside Iran, including its main naval base and dozens of small boats. Iran says it responded by firing missiles and drones at 85 military targets inside Bahrain and Kuwait.
Starting point is 00:37:33 The volleys, the most significant since the U.S. and Iran signed a memo of understanding about three weeks ago. But the president said Iran's actions have killed the deal. There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. Oil prices spiked on that news. Part of the reason why by the end of today, the president was trying to turn down the temperature. I think anything that happens is going to be over very quickly.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And we'll only make it safer, including for oil. Also at the NATO summit, the president met with Volomir Zelenskyy and announced plans to let Ukraine start building Patriot missiles. But he also broached a three-way meeting with Russia's Vladimir Putin. I don't know that he'd go to Moscow. Maybe he would. Would you go to Moscow? It's difficult there are a lot of Ukrainian drones to the earth.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Leaders here at the summit said their host, Turkish president Erdogan, gifted them all personalized revolvers and a box of ammunition. The White House didn't confirm Trump's gift, but the British Prime Minister said he had to leave his here because it would be illegal to bring it home. That's the weird part. What's up with that? They gave him pistols with ammo, what, to shoot yourself?
Starting point is 00:38:44 I thought that was very strange. It's a strange gift. I had not heard that. That was a good catch. That's a strange gift. That is a strange gift. They gave him gold-plated pistols with one bullet in the chamber. Hint, hint, hint, and a hair pin trigger.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So what I feel is going on here is good cop, bad cop. It seems so obvious because this is from his, he did a lot of press, or at least a lot of clips came out of his press in Turkey. the NATO NATO something. Yeah, some NATO clips. Yeah. This is where I think this is the one where he's, basically good cop, bad cop.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Let those guys go, be good cops. I'm going to be the bad cop. Have any questions? Mr. President. Is the ceasefire over? Is the ceasefire done? Is the MOU dead? It's a very interesting question.
Starting point is 00:39:39 That's not an interesting question. I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them, but they're scum. You know what scum is? they're scum, they're sick people. They're led by sick people. This is the full quote, which I think was more interesting than what the news just cherry-picked.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And they're vicious, violent people. And if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're good people. Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kush. But they have to come back to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time
Starting point is 00:40:13 dealing with them. They're liars. we make a deal See, that to me, first of all, they didn't put any of that in any of the news reports, nothing about the nuclear, nuclear bomb. I don't know why. And then he says, well, you know, those guys, they got to continue to talk, you know, Jared and Witkoff,
Starting point is 00:40:31 and they can come back to me, but I'm not going to talk to him. That is like so textbook, good cop, bad cop. And if I make a deal with him, we have a deal with him. We have a deal. We have a deal. Everyone's agreed. No nuclear weapon. We make a deal. They go outside and talk to the press.
Starting point is 00:40:48 They say we never even talked about it. There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. We don't resume after we get through the funeral proceedings. What? Does this mean that talks with Iran will not resume? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:41:05 They can talk, but I think they're wasting their time. They're a bunch of lying guys. My whole life, that's all I do is deals. My whole life is, that's how I became president, I guess. That's a deal, too, right? But I made a lot of money. I had a lot of great success. Now, tremendous success.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Everything I did, I was successful. And I deal with these guys, and I say, this is from a different school. They're liars, they're cheats, they're sick people. They've hurt their people. They killed 54,000 people as of now that were protesting. You know, when people say, how come they haven't taken over, they can't take over? Because they're dead. They killed them.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Nobody's going to take over. They have no guns. and the other side has machine guns. And they're killing them. The press doesn't report it. But they're bad people. They're bad people. Something tells me this was not unexpected for them
Starting point is 00:41:55 that this would happen. And there's some game afoot here. Actually, that entire clip, which was a good clip, I'm thinking whether it's worthy of a borderline. That entire clip, if the news media had played that in its entirety instead of these, kind of cute clips of they're scum
Starting point is 00:42:18 and then just leave it at that out of context the public would be service service so much better or served so much better by them being more honest with their clipping their clipping is terrible
Starting point is 00:42:35 and what's the verdict but the media sucks no you said borderline you were contemplating a borderline Oh, you want it, don't you? Well, you can't, like, dangle it in front of me and then say, well, I'm thinking about it. Okay, give yourself a borderline. Wow. It was almost worthy of a borderline.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Oh, okay. All right. You got your borderline. I couldn't give me a clip of the day. No, you haven't given me one of those in months. That's not true. Be careful. It's not true.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Okay. No, that's it. But the point I was making was, why don't we get, why doesn't the media give us that? And it's all out there. And NPR could have done that. BBC could have done that.
Starting point is 00:43:26 That clip was what? How long was that clip? What was the total time? Total time is, let me see. $1.55. It's under two minutes of, of clipage. Yeah. Yeah, clipage.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Clipage, as we call it. Well under what we consider the two minute. The two minute limit. The two minute limit. Nothing can go. If it's past two minutes, it's got to be really good. Well, no. If it's past two minutes, you or I, but one of the two of us complain.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Now, I know you have analysis. This clip is too long. I know you have analysis. I just have two more clips to play because stunningly, stunningly, look who comes out of nowhere and appears on Jake Tapper's show. What woman, what analyst do you think would just pop out all of a sudden? Who? Vicki Newland.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Oh, my God. This morning, President Trump said that as far as he's concerned, the ceasefire is over, and now we see these new strikes. So is this an end to the ceasefire, or is it possible that this is just a negotiating tactic? the ceasefire is still officially on. Jake, it's good to be with you. I don't think that the United States and President Trump ever had a true agreement with Iran. What Iran thinks it got out of this ceasefire was the ability to control the Straits of
Starting point is 00:44:58 Formuz to exact tolls and other tribute from ships going through it. And when we tried to pass ships on the Omani side or without paying, the Iranians attacked. So we never really have a deal, and it's not a surprise that it's breaking down. I think the question is what the president is willing to do to enforce it and to keep the straits open and to set this free navigation standard for the world. Before these strikes started, Trump said he did not think an end to the ceasefire would mean a return to full-scale war. Is it going to be that simple? I mean, it seems like we've been involved in a full-scale war for quite some time, even during this so-called
Starting point is 00:45:40 fire. And by the way, a war that we are losing, Jake, as I said, the president has never gotten us back to the status quo ante, which was a strait of Hormuz that was open to navigation without fees or tolls and that Iran did not control. You know, the Iran has been testing this all the way through. And frankly, this war that we started has left us in a far worse position than we were in before. I can only think she's mad that she wasn't involved in this war. I mean, she likes this. This is what she does. She sparks wars. She hands out donuts.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Let's get it going, boys. And then in this, yet another piece of audio that you didn't hear much of. I was asked why he's been apparently unable to end the Iran war. And after claiming that the U.S. was doing so well, he said this. Take a listen. They're dealing with very fine people. What? What?
Starting point is 00:46:35 Come on. That's like a shoe-in for the M-5M. I couldn't understand it. He says we're dealing with very fine people. That's a beauty. Oh, I missed. I couldn't hear it. That's a beauty.
Starting point is 00:46:49 That's because of the stupid sound effect they throw in. They're dealing with very fine people. Oh, God, come on, man. That's a, that would have been right. If you and I were running CNN, we'd be throwing out the very fine people on both sides' clip immediately. Absolutely. What a misser. They're dealing with Steve Woodcuff.
Starting point is 00:47:07 They're dealing with Jared Kushner and J.D. Vance. and they're dealing with Marco and Scott. They're dealing with great people. But I don't know. I think they're a little loco. They're a little crazy. What's your read on what's going wrong with the Trump administration's efforts to end the war?
Starting point is 00:47:25 And do you think that the Iranian leaders, I don't know if I would say loco or crazy, but they are, I mean, they believe in some pretty extreme theological beliefs. And is it possible? Wait, did he say Iranian people or Iranian leaders? That the Iranian leaders... Oh, leaders, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I don't know if I would say loco or crazy, but they are... I mean, they believe in some pretty extreme theological beliefs, and is it possible? You can't negotiate with them. Well, as you know, we did negotiate with them in the Obama administration, and we had a deal that... We sent them money! Wasn't as broad and as strong as some of us would have liked, but nonetheless put a cap on the Iranian nuclear program, and President Trump ripped that up in his first term. We were trying to get back to that.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And President Trump himself in the second term was trying to negotiate with, frankly, an Iranian leader who had once before reached an agreement with the United States. Instead, we bumped him off, and now we have a far more extreme set of leaders who have to prove themselves to each other. And frankly, if we're not willing to exact more pain on the Iranians, I mean, we, as part of, of this deal immediately sanctioned, relieved sanction pressure on them and allow them to sell oil again and to make money. Why should they come to the table? Why should they agree to anything? Of course. Who side is she on? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. She sounds like she's on the other side. Of course, Scott Besson immediately forbid them from selling oil. We've got, oh, no, sanctions. And it's not just strikes going back and forth, is it? The U.S. has also reimposed
Starting point is 00:49:07 oil sanctions on Iran? Yes, the US's initial response when we heard about this really just before those later strikes was to revoke a license which temporarily lifted some sanctions on Iran as part of the memorandum of understanding...
Starting point is 00:49:23 Take that, Dickey Newland. ...into the cessation of hostilities. That's when these sanctions were first brought into effect. But the sanctions waiver had allowed the Islamic Republic to produce, sell and deliver oil. So it was a key part of the process to get to the next stage of the negotiations between the U.S. and Iran with the big
Starting point is 00:49:44 issues, nuclear weapons still to be resolved. Yeah. Also from Frida, it was very clear that no one has really been hurt in Iran. The population is okay. And there's still more hijabs in Amsterdam than there are in Tehran. And they're actually building new... Is that right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Oh, the students don't wear them. Oh, that's over. It really, I think the people have shown the political leadership what they want. And I think the political... In Iran, yeah. And I think that the... But meanwhile, in Amsterdam, they're wearing the hijabs all over the place. So that's the red-green alliance.
Starting point is 00:50:28 This is the place. This is where the Muslims literally are running the cities. Everywhere. it's over here, it's over. That's, it's over. But in Tehran, it's the IRGC, or as Trump says, the IRGJ, it's the Imperial Revolutionary Guard of Japan. He does himself no favors with that.
Starting point is 00:50:59 That's when people come to me, hey man, you guy, your guy is no good, he's demented, he's got Alzheimer's, he's cheating it, Soccer. Yeah, well, we all make mistakes. That was a doozy, though. That was quite the doozy. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:51:18 He's been making a few of those now and again, but he's always done that. Well, let's go to some, let's do some overview stuff with, you got some analysis, anal clips? Well, let's start with these Al Jazeera clips. Okay. Trump-NATO overview.
Starting point is 00:51:36 The NATO summit in Ankara has ended with new pledges of support for Ukraine and defense spending, but divisions remain over wider security challenges, including Iran and Turkey's defense ambitions. Senator Koshu reports from Ankara. U.S. President Donald Trump, who used the final hours of the NATO summit in Ankara with a new promise on Ukraine. The U.S. will license patriot missile production, giving Kiev another boost to its air defenses. It was the clearest announcement from a summit that also delivered something many allies had been looking for. Trump's renewed commitment to NATO. We're going to give a license to you to make patriots.
Starting point is 00:52:17 That's pretty cool, right? This way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough. It's say, make them yourself. Trump said he believes Russia and Ukraine are... I love that. What did he say? He gives a license. We're giving you a license to make the pay.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Make him yourself. You want missiles? Here. Here's a license. Here's a blueprint. Make them yourself. Well, actually, I looked into that. The way it goes is they have to have a subsidiary of, who makes them?
Starting point is 00:52:47 Northrop? I'm not sure who makes them. No, no. I think it's, I think it's Raytheon. So they get the license to do it, but the license goes to a joint venture company that is co-owned and co-operated by the manufacturer here in America. Yeah, you want that. Otherwise, it's just steel.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Of course. Of course. Of course. So the license is, you know, it's not like, you know, sign here and you're good to go. Yeah, true, but it's still a license. Yeah. They still get to make them there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:21 But with our people in the room. And that takes. Yeah, to make sure that those steal the design. Yeah, sure. It takes a bit to get that all going. So that's not going to be done for a while. No, the war will be, I would predict. that the war will be over before they actually make one missile.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Oh, I'll take that bet because I got some other clips after we go through these of yours. Patriots, that's pretty cool, right? This way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough. It's say, make them yourself. Trump said he believes Russia and Ukraine are moving closer to negotiations. Leaders also back their political commitments with money, pledging nearly $80 billion in military support for Ukraine. next year, with a matching commitment for 2027 while announcing more than 50 billion dollars
Starting point is 00:54:10 in new NATO's defense procurements. But the summit was also shaped by tensions with Iran. Trump insisted the exchange of attacks would not spiral into a wider conflict. I don't think so. I think anything that happens is going to be over very quickly. And we'll only make it safer, including for oil. Turkish President Rejap Tadon is hoping. it helps secure the F-35 just Ankara paid for
Starting point is 00:54:37 and the path back into the program. Regarding the F-35s, Mr. Trump actually has a positive approach towards Turkey. God willing, when the F-35s are delivered to Turkey, the whole world will say that America kept its promise. Hmm. They won't. Probably not. The whole world is not going to say anything.
Starting point is 00:55:01 No, I don't think so either. Who cares about it? I mean, I don't even know why this. Well, there's something going on with those F-35s. But let's skip to the more kind of the issues that were going on with Trump condemning NATO and trying to get out some of these other things, at least as interpreted by some of these news organizations. This is Trump versus NATO one. Thank you, Richard.
Starting point is 00:55:27 The NATO summit is winding down after a bumpy two days of high-stakes diplomatic meetings in Ankara. Since Trump took office again last year, tension has only grown over Ukraine, over Iran, Arctic security, and President Trump's highly transactional view of global alliances. One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, well, sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by Russia, will you protect us? I said, you didn't pay, you're delinquent? He said, yes, let's say that happened. No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell is. They want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills. I think it's common sense, right?
Starting point is 00:56:07 If they don't pay, I'm not going to defend them. No, I'm not going to defend him. I got into a lot of heap when I said that. He said, oh, he's violating NATO. We're defending the straight for everybody else. And then in the case of NATO, they don't want to help us defend the straight, and they're the ones that need it. We're very disappointed with NATO because NATO has done absolutely nothing. I said 25 years ago that NATO is a paper tiger, but more importantly, that we'll come to their rescue, but they will never come to ours. We were disappointed with the UK.
Starting point is 00:56:40 We were disappointed with Germany and France. We're disappointed with most of them. I just want loyalty. You know, we're so loyal to them. We're always fighting for them. We have thousands of troops all over Europe. In Germany, we have 50,000 troops, and then you want a little, give us a little nudge,
Starting point is 00:56:58 give us a little kiss. We don't want much. Since taking office, NATO's Secretary General, Mark Ruta, has set to work trying to keep Trump engaged with the alliance with an unabashed charm offensive. He recently headed into the Oval Office, armed with large charts, crediting the president for a massive spike in spending by NATO allies. But despite the relentless praise from Ruta, the existential question remains, can America's allies successfully repair and maintain ties with this Trump administration while still preserving their own independence? on the world stage. I can't believe that I didn't play a sound bite of Ruta. That guy is television gold.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I don't know. This Al Jazeera. So the one thing that's always left kind of left out is one of the reasons Trump's so irked is that during this Iranian incursion, you know, they had their couple of aircraft carriers and they wanted to refuel them like in Spain and some other ports. and the Spanish, no. We don't want to see that aircraft carrier here anywhere around here.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Do you have the Spain bit? Well, this is old. I mean, this was like at the very beginning of the whole. No, no, but do you have the bit from the press conference about Spain? Oh, let me play it for you. Yeah, play it. This is fantastic. I spoke to Germany.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I spoke to France. Because this part was in your Al Jazeera piece, but not the Spain bit. Again, a disservice. Yeah, I don't get it. A disservice to their viewers. I spoke to Germany. I spoke to France, spoke to UK, spoke to Italy. I spoke to, I didn't speak to Spain.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Spain is a wasted cause. We don't want to do any trade business with Spain anymore, by the way. I'd like you to cut it up. Spain is a terrible partner in NATO. They don't participate. They don't pay. I don't want anything to do with Spain. Cut off all trade with Spain, please.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Including visits. Nothing. Okay. We don't want anything to do. Watch them come running back. Oh, they'll come running back. They treat this man terribly. This man's a good man, too.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Great man. Great man. They're lucky they have them. But Spain doesn't agree to anything. And you shouldn't carry them. I mean, you're sort of automatically carry because you're protecting an area. So they're there.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So they probably figured they have to protect us, right? But we don't have to. We don't have to trade with them. I don't want to do any more trade with them. All right? Yes, sir. Immediately. Don't even talk to them.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yes, sir. They're hopeless. Bad people, because, you know, they have everybody else going and paying and working in Spain, in particular Spain. There are a couple of others, but in particular Spain, they're open about it, they're hostile about it, and let's see a hostile. They remain when they call up and they, please, please, we want to trade with you, sir, we want to trade with you, sir.
Starting point is 00:59:52 They make so much money with us, and we're going to see that they make a lot less. I want no business with them. I just like it was just talking to people off camera, cut it off, cut off all trade with them. No more visits. No more visitation for you. You can't visit our country, Spain. No, you're not coming in. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Why don't they play that? That was a terrific, yes. I only heard part of that, but now I hear the whole thing. I'm going to give you a clip of the day. Here we go. Bend over, everybody. Clip of the day. Without you begging for it.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I had my finger on the button. So, yeah. So, yes, this is the issue. He's got an issue. And this was, this was, to me, suppressed news. Why, though? Yes. Well, there's the question. We have to try to figure out. Why was that suppressed? So nobody that's listening to this show heard any of that, except on this show. No. And it should have been top of the news. I think so. It should have been above the fold, as they say. Let me do a quick.
Starting point is 01:01:02 But no, we got nothing. It was, in fact, we showed by the clips that I played, they cut it out. Yeah. They did not. That's the, that's the kicker of the, that's the, that's a, look, do you want people watching your news or not? That's what people watch for. Ah, crump.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Well, they're doing, there's, that's because there's an alternate, there's something going on. Let's play part two. Of the Trump versus NATO, actually it says three, but it's really two. You have Trump versus NATO T.W. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. What might a potential reset mean for global defense? Richard Gaysford has this report. Five through six on Bravo. U.S. Marines in Action in Eastern Europe last week on a joint training exercise with Romanian
Starting point is 01:01:50 counterparts. It's all part of ongoing NATO cooperation. that for more than seven decades has seen members ready to fight together against a common enemy. The treaty was agreed right here in Washington, D.C. back in 1949, with 12 countries coming together to sign it inside the historic building behind me. Now, times might have changed, but a bit like the facade of the auditorium here, the ethos of NATO has stayed pretty much the same, although it's unlikely those who created NATO,
Starting point is 01:02:24 would have thought one of the biggest threats to its existence could have come from inside America itself. Since he first took office, Donald Trump shown disdain for the longstanding alliance, believing smaller countries have become reliant on the United States and were unwilling to fund their own defense. NATO members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their financial obligations. But 23 of the 28 member nation, are still not paying what they should be paying and what they are supposed to be paying for their defense.
Starting point is 01:03:02 This is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the United States. The president's ever-shifting stance on supporting Ukraine's certainly tested nerves within NATO. Ever-shifting stance? I don't think it's ever-shifting. Is it ever-shifting? Not that I can tell. I don't think so. I don't think so. For their defense.
Starting point is 01:03:22 This is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the United States. The president's ever-shifting stance on supporting Ukraine's certainly tested nerves within NATO. With its Secretary General doing what he can in the President's second term to keep him on size. I don't have many disagreements with the President's States. No. Unity's been stretched with Trump's desire to take control of Greenland. And NATO's got to understand that. I'm all for NATO.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I saved NATO. If it weren't for me, you wouldn't have a NATO right now. but we're not going to allow Russia or China to occupy Greenland, and that's what's going to happen if we don't. Okay, I have to put... Hold on. That's an old clip. That's an old clip.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yep. And the whole thing was brought to the fore by McCrone out of the blue. And during these meetings saying, well, you know, we were ready to send our troops to fight the USA in Greenland if it was necessary. Yeah, Macron is on the outs here. Everyone else is kind of sucking up. Well, McCroney on the house. I got to play 30 seconds of Ruta.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I just got to play it. No one's... Oh, yeah, okay. Play Root. No one is playing him. Spices up the show. Nobody's playing Mark. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear,
Starting point is 01:04:40 concrete, incredible plans. Plans, we want plans and your money. To reach that 5% goal. 5%. And the evidence we see so far is impressive. Impressive. I had a good visit last week. with President Trump.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I showed my PowerPoint. I called them trillion dollar Trumpy and it's great. And we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. Of course, this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine, but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. Yes, forceful to encourage us to do it. You better do it, yes? Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Very good. Very good. That was it. I just need to play that. Yeah, okay. We continue with this.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Number three? Yeah, NATO three. Yes. Yeah? NATO launched Arctic Century to reassure leaders in the U.S. and Europe that it could maintain high levels of vigilance in the area. Although weeks later, there was further friction when NATO members declined to offer help in the U.S. conflict with Iran, refusing to send warships into the Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Because we don't need them, but they should have been there. That's reinforced Trump's view of a one-sided alliance, prompting a now familiar refrain. But we weren't treated well because we did something in Iran. We don't need anybody's help. I didn't even want their help. But before I asked, they said they wouldn't be there. But, you know, why are we spending hundreds of billions of dollars
Starting point is 01:06:14 and they're not there for us? We've always been there for them. This is Coalition Worship, Postral 310. operating in support the United Nations Security Council Resolution. Allies hope promises to increase their defense spending will help smooth the way as NATO members meet. But leaders know, based on recent experience, under the surface, tensions could easily emerge. Richard Gaysford, Al Jazeera, Washington. Now go to the analysis clip, which will be my last one.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Okay, let's see. Anal. You know, there we go. Oops. We're joined now by Jim Townsend, the former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for European and NATO policy, as well as Ambassador Michael Carpenter, who was most recently the Senior Director for Europe on the National Security Council under President Joe Biden. Gentlemen, thank you both so much for joining us today. It was a remarkable NATO summit in Ankara.
Starting point is 01:07:11 And I want to start with the news, repeated blasting of NATO by Trump, despite the fact that this is meant to be an event that shows the unity, the solid. of the alliance repeatedly saying I'm not happy with NATO. He went after Spain repeatedly, France, Great Britain, and Germany. Jim, this acrimony from Trump towards the NATO alliance, not even softening when he's sitting in front of the Secretary General in the warm embrace of all these allies. Well, absolutely. And the Secretary General had to keep a stony face as he was listening to what the president was saying. And so this is something that is... Wait a minute. Wait a Are they saying that Mark Ruta, that he had to keep a stony face because he disagrees and thinks our president is stupid? That's kind of what they implied.
Starting point is 01:08:00 He loves Trump. Yeah, I know. And he's like, we've proven that. He's the top sales guy. Trump loves him. Yeah, that's crazy. Zerra. Yeah, allies.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Well, absolutely. And the secretary general had to keep a stony face as he was listening to what the president was saying. And so this is something that is gotten outrageous. He has just a stuck record. He just seems to repeat the same talking points over and over and over again. Now he's singling out nations, you know, in front of that. He's a stuck record. I thought he was all over the map.
Starting point is 01:08:38 He's inconsistent. He's saying one thing, saying another than saying another. But now he's a stuck record? It's unbelievable. Make up your minds, people. You really notice it here in this country. You notice how stuck everybody is. I mean, we have a lot of that in our news media and people who, I mean, it's popular.
Starting point is 01:09:01 It's, how, how. You're referring to, you're referring to Holland. Yes, to Holland. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how to frame it. And you, people will approach me, friends, family, people I don't even know. And they immediately assume that you are going. to take on the, yeah, Trump's crazy, rule my eyes.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And if you say, well, you know, there's a couple things he's doing, then it breaks. You know, you break through so easily. But everybody, everybody has this, they're afraid to give their opinion. And we're not Trump lovers. First of all, I think he's great for the show. That we've always said that. And it's going to be a sad day when he's gone. When they take him out, you know, take him out.
Starting point is 01:09:46 you know, take him out. But it's just everywhere. It's so rampant. What is this mind control that people are afraid to just say, well, he sucks there and that's dumb. But, you know, we don't have any immigrants who are getting rid of them and we don't have the stupid climate change. And you just have to say those two things in any country in Europe.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Well, yes, that's true. That's true. That's true. Yes. You know, I do have a problem with that here. in this country. Okay. But what is that?
Starting point is 01:10:20 What is this? Has this always existed? Or is this just worse than it's ever been? The whole world cannot, they're afraid to say anything, anything positive. Well, you've, you've stumped you.
Starting point is 01:10:35 You've kind of introduced a, a question that is not easily answerable. I think it always has existed. It's hard to know. notice. I think there's an underlying thing. I mean, this reminds me, I mean, at least 20 or 30 years ago, I was, it was at some, one of these big conferences,
Starting point is 01:10:59 and I was talking to some CEO of a very large company. You won't mention his name? Well, I can't, if I could remember his name or the company, I would. Okay. But it was 30 years ago. Fair game, fair game. so and it was about some green energy some degree they had made an announcement about the climate change it was one of its little peak moments and i said i went up to the guy said you know it's interesting you guys are doing this but you really think i mean i think climate change is a hoax of
Starting point is 01:11:38 not or some sort of just a some sort of scam i can't figure out what an op and i didn't use that term then because I wasn't that I wasn't that into the scene. And the guy said, the guy just was quick without missing abuses. Oh yeah, we know it's bullshit. Yeah, right. Exactly. Exactly. The troll room is making some good points.
Starting point is 01:12:03 That this was, that COVID was the point where this happened. Because anyone, I mean, it was so strong if you were against what was happening. Everybody, politicians, the media. your neighbors, your family. It broke up families. I think that's where this came from. That's, that's a reasonable point. That that was the- Well, I think it's always been there, but maybe that's, maybe it's exaggerated because it, yeah, I think so. It cranked it up. Yeah, and now- Yeah, I can say, yeah, that works. Funny enough, that's the one thing that people now even here saying, yeah, that was bull crap.
Starting point is 01:12:40 That made no sense. Yeah, but the shots are still out there. I'll get to that in a moment. He just seems to repeat the same talking points over and over and over again. Now he's singling out nations, you know, in front of them. And this undercuts the alliance. It hurts unity. And it is embarrassing to the United States.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And I think allies are tired of it. Michael, the most recent thing to anger Trump when it comes to NATO is the fact that they didn't get involved in the war with Iran, which of course the U.S. and Israel started. How are these NATO allies dealing with this accusation that they should have had a bigger role? Well, I think they're pushing back as they should. I mean, NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't go on offensive wars. What? What about Libya?
Starting point is 01:13:27 We don't go on offensive wars. He explained Libya. We don't do that. No. We came. We saw he died. We saw he died. Where's my girl?
Starting point is 01:13:38 McDuff. Isn't that her name? Here we go. I always love playing her. I mean, that is the land of unconcerned Yes, we came, we saw He died
Starting point is 01:13:48 Did he have anything to do with you visit? I'm sure it We killed him I love it Okay So now back to my fun-loving clips So we can all have another laugh About the president
Starting point is 01:14:02 Because he just keeps on entertaining As the United States President Donald Trump has reignited a bitter diplomatic food with Italy Sharing a provocative social media post mocking Prime Minister Georgia Meloni before a critical NATO summit in Ankara. Trump uploaded an image of the two leaders on his
Starting point is 01:14:19 true social media account with a sarcastic caption suggesting he needed a restraining order against her with the inflammatory post appearing on the eve of high level security meetings. The Italian government has indicated that Meloni and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani are choosing to ignore Trump's post
Starting point is 01:14:36 at this time. The personal dispute highlights a deep and accelerating chill in bilateral relations which began fracturing over Middle East policy, criticism of Poplio the 14th, and Italy's refusal to permit American forces to use domestic airfields. While Trump did not explicitly refer to it in his latest social media post, he seemed to be building on a claim of his last month that Melanie had begged him for a photo at the G7 summit. Trump said that he agreed to do so out of pity,
Starting point is 01:15:05 prompting a fierce response from Rome stating that neither she nor Italy ever bet. I love the restraining order line. That's too good. That's just... That's a beauty, yeah. And I'm sure she thinks it's funny, too. I think she has... Well, let's hope so.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Yeah, I think she has that humor. Okay, so we have a quote from the president about what's going on between Russia and Ukraine, and I am going to state again that was happening right now, what Ukraine is doing with their drones, and they're blowing stuff up in Moscow. You're going to push this guy too far, and he's going to make a big boom.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Well, yeah, hold on. on a second. You were predicting this boom weeks and weeks ago. No, no, no, no. Only two shows ago. Not weeks and weeks ago. No, it wasn't two shows ago. You were in, you didn't do it from Holland. You did it from Texas. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:55 How, I mean, how what is the, what is the time the frame that I get for this? What, for an A-bomb being dropped in Ukraine? I said a big boom. I didn't say an A-bomb. They've got these rods from God. You hinted it was an A bomb.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Something big is going to happen. This is called something bad and big is going to happen. And it's going to be Ukraine. It won't be Europe. And this is not going to be over. Now, here's what the president says, which I just disagree with this. Daniel. You've made a career making deals in very challenging situations.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Speaking to President Zelensky, speaking to President Putin, in your view, sir, what is the most pragmatic pathway forward to finding a long-term peace deal. I just think you're going to make a deal. Look, this deal has been in the works for a long time. It's got the pluses, the minuses. They know what it is. He knows what it is better than anybody.
Starting point is 01:16:54 And I just think it's sometimes, you know, I used an analogy, and it sounds simple, but it's sort of true. You have two kids in a park, and they don't like each other, and they start fighting. Sometimes you have to let them fight, let him see that it's tough, you know, it's tough. Fighting is tough.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And he's done an amazing job. Look, he's been very effective. He's had the best equipment because he's had our equipment. And he's had great, but somebody has to use that equipment. And you have a lot of brave people that are using that equipment. So I'm not a big fan of. of like, oh, just let them fight on because this stuff has to end. But there's a new player.
Starting point is 01:17:43 There's new things that are happening suddenly. And this is partially the old world order coming back together to create their own liberal rules-based order and cut out the United States. And the new player is Canada. Look, I think the president, as did President Obama, which I just said to someone else, is looking for a shift of the burden within NATO. That's appropriate. That is happening. That's gaining momentum.
Starting point is 01:18:16 As part of the point I made to President Trump, when we spoke a few days ago, is that it's not just he's winning the argument. This is Carney, of course, in case you didn't know. He has won the argument. Countries recognize that they need to take more responsibility, see the direct threats. Now, the question for NATO, and part of what we will discuss and part of the point I will make,
Starting point is 01:18:39 in the room with my three and a half minutes of time, which is about a quarter of the length of my normal answer, I know, so I apologize. The is that those shifting burdens are going to be, in our view, most effectively done, obviously with greater capacity, we have to spend more, we have to build these capacities, that's what we're doing. But in ways that recognize,
Starting point is 01:19:09 the regions in which we operate. So for Canada, North America, obviously, up until now, NATO has said, well, North American security, that's your problem. Well, North American security and particularly Arctic security and remind everybody that, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:24 we've got 15% of the world's coastline, Arctic security is not a flank, it's a front. Uh-huh. With the shift in the threats and Russia's a direct adversary. Attention, Canadians. you are being drawn into this. Attention, Canadians.
Starting point is 01:19:41 You're about to be hoodwinked. So spending there and coordinating, not just Canada, but Canada, the Nordics, Canada, Germany, Canada, France, Canada, the Baltics. Canada, Germany. Is Canada near Germany? John, let me check Canada, Germany? Let me look. Take a look.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Look at your window. For NATO. So that's where the discussion in our judgment needs to go. And that is where the planning is going. Now, the planning is going there. So to understand what is going on, we bring in our resident Canadian expert in all things Ukraine. My boy, Andrew Rousoulis. We're joined now by Andrew Rousoulis.
Starting point is 01:20:20 He's a fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a retired Department of National Defense Official. Andrew, always great having you on the show. Good afternoon, Deanna. Andrew, let's talk about Canada's position in this upcoming NATO summit. NATO allies, as we said, it's the unspoken agenda to manage Trump and ensure that the U.S. indeed stays in the alliance, where do you think Canada's role is in this specific context? Well, Canada's going to be playing two roles. One is on the financial side, which is very close to our prime minister's expertise.
Starting point is 01:20:52 And the other one will be, again, in light of Canada's domestic constituency, you know, arguing for sustained and long-term assistance to Ukraine. as Ukraine and Russia are locked in a real tough battle to see who's going to give way before there's any room for a compromise solution or a win-win solution. But we're not there yet, but that's where the prime minister will be. Yes. So what is a win-win solution? Well, we know that all wars are banker wars. And Mark Carney, the prime minister or president? Prime minister, right? Prime minister? Prime minister. Prime minister? Prime minister. No, he's not the premier. He's the prime minister. That's why there's two of us.
Starting point is 01:21:38 The prime minister of Canada is an actual bankers banker. He ran the Bank of England. This is a central banker. You have a banker running the show. A banker loves to run the war. And for him, it's always win-win. Are we any closer to a potential deal there than we were in the last few years? Well, I believe we are.
Starting point is 01:22:00 The thing is that this war is existential. for Russian interests and Ukrainian interests, which is why it's taking so long and so many casualties and so much effort and suffering until both sides can come to a point, which they're not there yet, where they can make what we need in diplomacy is a win-win solution.
Starting point is 01:22:22 That is some kind of compromises. Now, for the Russians, as we know in your report, you just gave it, that Donbass, the fortress belt, is fundamental for Russia. And it's equally fundamental for Ukraine. So they need to find a way of getting over that one and sort of finding some kind of a compromise that allows both sides to essentially declare victory.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Now, how do we do that? We need money. And we already took the Russian money. Then we gave that to Ukraine. We need more money. Where could we get some more money? I'm thinking we could get that from the Canadian citizens. Let's talk a little bit about this $80 billion military aid package.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Canada will be participating in it that will be likely going towards Ukraine. How important is this? And what do you think? What? 80. Yeah, this is the defense bank set up announced by Canada and NATO. No one talked about that. The Canadian people will be footing the bill or at least backing it. We'll hear that in the next clip.
Starting point is 01:23:32 of $80 billion. Now it's unclear if that's U.S. dollars or Canadian dollars, because then it's not such a big deal. But if it's U.S. dollars... It would still be 60 billion or so. It's a lot of money. It's allocated for... Well, it's allocated to support Ukraine's strategic defense.
Starting point is 01:23:49 And right now, Ukraine's strategic defense can be broken down to two key component parts. One, maintain an active defense along the 1,000 kilometers and extract a grand... greater proportion of casualties of Russian troops compared to Ukrainian troops, thereby exhausting Russia's ability to find replacements. That's number one for Ukraine. Number two is keep bombarding Russia in terms of its interior economy, particularly the gas and the oil production facilities, to, as the Ukrainians say, bring the war to the Russian people. And so by so doing, they hope to wear down political support in Russia for the war, which still generally is above 50% in favor of fighting and winning against Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:24:41 So there's a way to go on that one. But there are lineups of gas stations, and, you know, a deal would be welcome. But again, Russia cannot be seen to be losing. And we have seen those attacks within Russia, indeed, attacks on the city of Moscow, that's something that Russia has not seen in decades and decades. I am telling you now, Canadian citizens, our northern neighbors, we do love you. We really, the ones who listen to this show, at least, you're on the hook for this. And the big boom, why wouldn't Moscow just blow up Canada?
Starting point is 01:25:13 We could take out, you know, what's a, what's a spot we could take out in Canada that would make sense? That would make sense? Yeah. For Russia. They're hitting their oil and gas stuff. So where's the oil and gas? Yeah, but a couple of pipelines would probably make sense. Well, listen to this deal that Canada is going to put together with the bankers banker, Mark Carney.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Let's talk a little bit about back to Canada's role. I mean, we know that there's potential discussion of setting up a global defense bank. We know that, you know, Carney is coming into this meeting after that Davos speech about the importance of middle powers. Talk to us about the global defense. What would this look like and what kind of a potential leadership role could Canada have within it? Well, this is a natural for the Prime Minister given his banking background. So what the defense bank is, and it's not a done deal yet, and there's going to be a lot of discussion in anchor over this one. But basically, think of it like a world bank, but a world bank for defense spending.
Starting point is 01:26:23 So basically what Canada is trying to do is get a certain number of countries. I don't know the critical mass that's required. And they put in money, which then allows the bank, which would be based in Canada. That's already been decided. They don't know which city. And then they would give cheap or inexpensive loans to certain countries that need to make equipment purchases and so on. So it's kind of like, as I say, a World Bank that makes procurement easier. But you need to have a core funding base for that.
Starting point is 01:26:55 and that's where they have not crossed the line yet. There's not enough people. There are some countries that have signed up, but the numbers, the critical mass, has not yet been reached, and the prime minister is working very hard at doing that. And, you know, I read in these, like, conservative treehouse, these herb, Lindsay Greb and all these senators, they're going over to Ankara.
Starting point is 01:27:18 What are they doing there, the warmongers? They're sales guys. They see $90 billion worth of Canada is going to spend on defense. And Lindsey Graham wants it to come the Boeing in South Carolina. This is what this is about. A boot.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Oh yeah. All that money's coming down here. It's coming to us. Yeah. Everyone's collecting. I mean, this is when you have a, we have a crappy education system.
Starting point is 01:27:46 But our media isn't quite that bad. I mean, is anyone in Canada up in arms about this? I think there should be. They should be. It should be. It's just like, wow, wow. I mean, I don't want to change the topic, but since we're talking about Canada, sure.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Talk about being up in arms. I think that this clip I have, which is about their death cult going on. The Maid program? Yeah, this is one of the, I think one of the representatives in, although they don't have meetings anymore. It turns out that Carney's just calling all the shots and there's no legislation going on at all. I want to draw attention... Sorry. But this is a bit, bit, clip, play.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I want to draw attention to three concerns about the widening scope of euthanasia in Canada. These are not concerns from the fringes, but statements from a member of a provincial medical college, recommendations before Parliament, and the reality of made right now in Canada. And most Canadians are not yet aware of the extent of the horror. The first concern is about a statement regarding infants. A member of the Quebec College of Physicians has formally seen. stated that made may be an appropriate treatment for babies from birth to one year of age, who come into the world with severe deformities and very serious syndromes,
Starting point is 01:29:05 and that parents should have the opportunity to obtain this care for their infant. Canadian law currently permits the withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment for critically ill newborns. This medical practitioner's proposal goes further. He calls for the calculated killing of an infant. These are patients, babies, who cannot speak. cannot consent and cannot ask for help. If we cannot draw the line here, I'm not sure where medical professionals imagine the line to be. The second concern is a proposal regarding mature minors.
Starting point is 01:29:36 A report by the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying, Ahmad, has recommended extending made to children with parental consent described as optional. A physician, not a child's parent, would determine whether a child is able to consent to his own death. In this discussion, Maid advocates showed their true colors and defended the rationale for euthanizing minors without consulting their parents. Yet 43 expert witnesses called this recommendation deeply flawed. I might call it something stronger.
Starting point is 01:30:06 The third concern is euthanasia on demand. Ontario's chief coroner has documented maid deaths driven not by illness, but by poverty, loneliness, and lack of housing. Approximately half of those who died by maid in 2024, reported requesting it because they felt like a burden to their families. friends or caregivers. These are not necessarily people dying of terminal illness. These are Canadians failed by a system that chose to offer them lethal injection rather
Starting point is 01:30:34 than the support and hope they needed to live. Okay, now you really bum me out. I was having a good time. I was having a pretty good time on the show. I mean, this is, this is, how about just try Jesus for one second, you know, at least before you go to that extreme. They're doing that here too. I believe it's 12-year-olds, up to 12 without, or starting at 12, without parental consent, can euthanize themselves if you're depressed or not having a good day.
Starting point is 01:31:05 I don't know that to be true. In the Netherlands? Yeah, I'm pretty short. Oh, there. When you say, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm here. I'm in Amsterdam. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Yeah, I know. Sorry, I can't. That's okay. It sounds like you're right next door. I know. So they're doing that in Holland, too. Yes, yes. Well, that's no good.
Starting point is 01:31:23 No, it's horrible. This is like a suicide cult. It, I don't even have words for it. It's like this seems like there's so many more options before you, I mean, how do you get into that mental state? A saw cop. Thank you. Other than the whole culture is telling you it's okay to. do this with, I guess, incessant media support.
Starting point is 01:31:58 The media should be pushing back on this. You would hope. The media is totally irresponsible here. You would hope. I mean, they're just a bunch of ghouls that have no feelings whatsoever for their fellow man. Guess. It actually kind of disturbs me. It's like...
Starting point is 01:32:21 Well, it should. Yeah, it's not okay. I've been sitting on this clip forever. Yes. Well, I've been sitting on one of these clips for several weeks because every show comes up in my prep and it doesn't come up. And it's about time we talk about cyclospora. I mean, we just got to talk about it. Health officials are monitoring a growing outbreak of a parasitic infection in several states,
Starting point is 01:32:44 including Virginia and North Carolina. It's called psychoporiasis, and there have been at least 300 cases in Michigan, the most in the U.S. At least 20 people have been hospitalized and doctors say the illness comes from drinking water and food infected with the parasite, like fresh veggies or produce. Vesies. And here's one of the symptoms. Vesems. Symptoms can be pretty debilitating, including that explosive diarrhea. What's particularly scary about this parasite cyclospora is you can't see or smell or taste it.
Starting point is 01:33:14 So if water, fruits, or vegetables are contaminated, you're not actually going to know. Now to protect yourself from infection, thoroughly wash your produce, even if it says that it's been pre-washed and do not drink water when swimming. So the key line here is explosive diarrhea. And, you know, the jokes almost right themselves, but no one's doing it. You know, I mean, I don't, again, we should be running some of these news organizations. I mean, CDC has issued a code brown. I mean, you could do anything you want. CDC has issued a travel advisory with its own exit strategy.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Code breath. Yeah, you're right there. Yeah, you're right. Wash your produce, people, or at least clear your calendar. I mean, come on. What is this? Have you, has this ever existed in our lives before, the cyclospore with explosive diarrhea? And we'd have to do some research to find out what the hell is going on here.
Starting point is 01:34:15 I mean, explosive is the part. I mean, it could be something created in a lab for all we know. Well, it could be. It's a horrid. It's a nasty one. Explosive diarrhea. I mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:28 And debilitating, I guess, is the key word. Yeah. Well, no kidding. It's just like, wow. Okay. Explosive diarrhea. This is around this sort of thing. It's time for the forever girls.
Starting point is 01:34:42 The Forever Girls, whatever. I don't have any Forever Girls today. Okay. All right. But I do have a COVID vaccine. story in Australia that McCullough gives that I thought was worth repeating. In fact, AI could be used to study the conformational changes in the spike protein. The spike protein, when it folds, it exposes different regions to produce antibodies.
Starting point is 01:35:04 So an opportunity for misadventure was shown in an Australian vaccines. You know, one of the early Australian spike protein antigenic vaccines exposed the region of the spike protein that has homology with HIV. And all of the Australian human subjects turned HIV positive after getting their experimental COVID vaccine. That was back in 2021. So this is astounding that the COVID vaccine, you know, campaign in the empire that it's become has had so many missteps and has produced, you know, commercially, grossly unsafe and completely ineffective vaccines. Yeah, I think he's just talking to the wind. I don't see anything ever coming up.
Starting point is 01:35:54 But there is, I think, another serious side effect of the COVID vaccines that is just now starting to play out. And it always happens when it happens to a celebrity. TGA. A journalist and former today anchor Katie Kirk is revealing a recent health scare that caused her to experience short-term memory loss. She wrote about it on her substact, calling it, quote, day I'll never remember in it. She describes a recent Saturday, a couple Saturdays ago when she was
Starting point is 01:36:22 in Colorado at the Aspen Ideas Festival. I actually was there as well, had a nice conversation with Katie the night before all of this. Katie says it was a Saturday morning she went to grab a hot dog with her husband at the festival before she was set to moderate two panels. But that's the last thing I remember. Katie couldn't remember the month or the year. And when she was asked who was president, she believed it was Joe Biden and it was 2024. Katie says the memory loss only lasted for that period of the day. She was later diagnosed with something called transient global amnesia. So when I first heard this, I'm like, well, you know, we all have our moments.
Starting point is 01:37:03 She's 69. Well, she's also a podcaster now. Oh. And this is good publicity. Well, you would think. But then when I heard the same news model, who I am sure is also a vaxed to the Hilt, sorry for those who have accepted the vaccine into their lives, she's had it too. And here to help us understand a little more about that diagnosis is NBC News medical reporter Dr.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Akshay Sail. Dr. Sial, it does sound pretty frightening. And at first, Katie's husband and doctors thought that she might have had a stroke. They said initiate stroke protocol in the hospital. But she didn't. What is transient global amnesia? How common or rare is it? It's, you know, it can be a really frightening condition, Kate. But fortunately, it is benign. For those who haven't heard about it, TGA or transient global amnesia,
Starting point is 01:37:52 it affects about five to ten per 100,000 people every year. I mean, it sort of consists of the sudden short-term memory loss and inability to deform new memories. So, for example, you know, patients will often say, you know, could you repeat that? And they almost don't remember asking the question and don't remember getting the answer. So they tend to need to be to repeated things over and over. unable to form those new memories and it typically resolves within hours about six hours or so but definitely within 24 hours from onset do we know what causes these episodes and it can happen to anybody
Starting point is 01:38:20 it can happen to anyone christine but you know the biggest risk factor the most people we see this in people age 50 to 70 it's about equally as common in between men and women we tend to see you know equal parts affected but guys those were the history of migraines about six times more likely to have this and it's a strong correlation there okay so i'm going to put my team foil hat on because katie kirk specifically talks about, oh, I thought Joe Biden was my president. And this news model, it happened to her during election night. It's just, there's too many coincidences. Yeah, I have a history of migraines, and I'm just going to tell you,
Starting point is 01:38:53 this actually happened to me. Really? 20 years ago, yes. Oh, 20 years ago. Oh, that doesn't count then. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't hear that part.
Starting point is 01:39:01 I don't know. I think it's a possibility. Everything is a possibility. Yeah. I thought she had it during. during election night, 20 years ago. No, no, that's no good. That's no good. Does you remember that? That it was 20 years ago? That's pretty good memory. It doesn't matter because we have other issues which could be vaccine-duced.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Infertility has been rising over the last few years, especially among women aged 35 to 49 years, according to new research published in the Lancet. Cases of infertility among women in this age group will approach 80 million by 2036, a sharp rise from around $53 million in 2023, with the sharpest increase expected among women aged 35 to 39. The authors note this is mainly driven by age-related declines in eggs reserve and their ability to fertilize, which reduce fecundity, increased miscarriage risk, and lower the success rates of assisted reproductive technologies.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Analyzing data from the global burden of disease. You can't understand it? No, the guy's a mumbler. and he's got some weird accent I can't pick up on. Well, this is always your own news. I don't know what he's talking about. That 80 million women will be infertile in their fertile years over the next five years. There's a vaccine.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Huge, huge infertility epidemic, I would say. Well, they got what they wanted. They always wanted to kill us off. Yeah, well, you know, the population. Worldwide white population is only 8%. Well, they want to kill everybody. I don't think it's a color thing. They just want to kill everybody off.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Yeah, but the whites have got to go. Have you fine? Hey, wait a minute. Let me call the boys from the Patriot Front. Oh, right, that's the wrong guys. That's wrong guys. So I do have an Ebola club, but I also want to ask you doing it. It's not quite an ask Adam, but what are the two largest cities in the world do you think?
Starting point is 01:41:10 the two largest cities in the world. Yeah, in terms of population. It's got to be something in South America. Is it Brazil? My understanding that the largest city is Mexico City at 35 million. It's pretty big. Yeah, it's pretty big. What do you think the second largest city in the world is?
Starting point is 01:41:29 In the world. See, this is where I'd be like Buenos Aires? I don't know why I'm saying that. No, it's actually Dhaka, Bangladesh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Well, and here's a clip about the pollution problem they got, which it's a throwaway,
Starting point is 01:41:48 but I think it's worth knowing about. For centuries, rivers surrounding Bangladesh's capital were its lifelines, but the waterways on... Talk about an accent. Now choking with industrial waste, sewage, and rubbish. Millions of dollars have been spent on restoration projects, but the pollution is threatening public health, the environment, and the economy. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Didn't we have a big back in the 60s some kind of music thing for Bangladesh? Yeah. Wasn't the Beatles involved in that? Everybody was involved. I don't remember what the purpose of it was. Why does this stuff never work? It's all just, it's just to sell records, it turns out.
Starting point is 01:42:29 USA for Africa. We are the world. Band-Aid. Bono, anything Bono does. Farm aid. Farm aid. There's time they, how do you, reports now. from Dhaka. Bangladesh's capital Dhaka is the world's second largest city, home to nearly 37 million
Starting point is 01:42:45 people. As the mega city expands a fight to keep it livable, is unfolding along the four rivers that won't sustain it. Abu Saeed says his family has farmed this land on the outskirts of Dhaka for generations, but he doesn't know how much longer he'll be able to continue. The polluted river is damaging our paddies. Often our crops are ruined when the water seeps into our land. It's affecting the entire environment. Rapid urbanization and industrial growth have outpaced authority's capacity to manage wastewater and pollution. It's contaminating farmland, destroying fisheries and worsening flooding, as well as threatening the health of millions of people living on the river banks. The rivers around Dhaka have turned into dumping grounds.
Starting point is 01:43:36 All the waste and pollution end up here. The water is black. And there's still no sign of it getting cleaner. For generation, these rivers gave life to Dhaka. Today it's carrying waste instead. And unless the pollution is stopped at its sources, the city's lifeline may soon be beyond saving. The World Bank says around 7,000 factories discharge and estimated 2.4 billion liters of untreated industrial waste
Starting point is 01:44:01 into waterways across Greater Dhaka every day. Hmm. Well, that's not great. and I'm sad that none of our carefully orchestrated charity concerts
Starting point is 01:44:18 and record projects ever work. Jakarta is the world's biggest city at 42 million. No, Jakarta followed by it. South America is not even in the picture.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Hold on. There's something I want to play that's related to this. Let me see if I can find this. Everyone's always complaining about it. I had an H-1B clip. Where does that go? You know, they're going after H-1B now.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Yeah, I know big time. Which everybody's complaining about. But I don't hear anyone going, yeah, great, we're going after H-1B. Where did it go? But it's all about the medical industry. No, that's not it. Oh, I must have forgotten about it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:13 But yeah, the Department of Justice is going after H1B fraud, specifically fraud. Why can't I find this? What happened? Yeah, it was about time. Oh, here we go, I found it. Thanks for having me. Well, this sounds very serious. This is, what's the guy's name?
Starting point is 01:45:29 I'll look his name up. Tell us about your investigation. Are you saying that there is fraud and human trafficking within the H-1Bs program? What? You're saying there's fraud? The H-1B visa program? program that is the program electronic review management or perm system? Without a doubt.
Starting point is 01:45:49 And we are going to take an aggressive action, what we believe is probably the most aggressive action against foreign labor fraud by an inspector general this administration. We've already started to issue dozens of subpoenas. We are going to make sure that we track down every lead. We have whistleblowers talking about some of the biggest companies like Cognizant, who have been sort of, you know, in chatter of issues with Perm and H-1B visas. And we are going to work side by side with the President and Vice President's Fraud Task Force to exhaust every lead.
Starting point is 01:46:24 I'm going to take this exactly like I did when I was an NYPD detective, and I'm going to give and make sure my investigators and auditors have every resource necessary in order to conduct this investigation for the American people. And quite frankly, the fraud task force has been very clear. Vice President Vance has said there's no fraud too small, there's no fraud too large. And this is another example where fraud is fueling violent crime. Much of the visa and the human trafficking that we see when it comes to this foreign labor is tied to cartels, is tied to transnational gangs.
Starting point is 01:47:00 And this is the work that we should be doing not only to make America safe again, but to make America more work. affordable again. Yeah. So they start with the medical stuff. Maybe they'll get to the tech sector eventually. Did you want to do Ebola still? Did you want to do Ebola still? Because I have something else. Yeah, let's play the Ebola. This is just to keep up on.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Health workers responding to an outbreak of Ebola in the Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo say they have not been paid by the government. As NPR's Duri Bouscarin reports, their protesting, delayed wages, unfair treatment, and a lack of protective gear. The Bundabuzio strain of Ebola has sickened more than 1,700 people in this outbreak and killed almost 600.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Frontline health workers in Ituri province told the Associated Press, they have not been paid their wages and bonuses from Congo's government since the outbreak was declared on May 15th. They said they're on strike to protest their working conditions. Local media reported that several health care workers protested on Monday, burning tires outside a hospital in Bunya, capital of the hardest hit province in this outbreak. The strike comes as enrollment for clinical trials have begun in Congo for two treatments that may help treat the Boundabuzio strain.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Ooh. Did they have a vaccine or what is this treatment? Is there any information? I have no idea. They never say. You think they'd say. I want to sneak in a little bit of AI stuff here because I have my own boots on the ground. I consider myself to be somewhat of an artificial intelligence LLM user to some degree.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Yes. I think you qualify your, you have standing now. I have standing now, yes. I've been working on this for a year and a half. But first, the obvious, what is happening. Spent a lot of time talking to yourself in the process. Only you hear that. After the show, like, come on, you stupid, stupid robot.
Starting point is 01:48:55 How come you not? It's kind of weird. And I continue to call it my robot, because that is the only way I can separate myself from it continuously trying to make friendly with me. But here is the obvious that was going to happen. The use of Chinese AI models by American companies is starting to gain traction as the performance gap to US models narrows. It comes as the cost of using frontier systems
Starting point is 01:49:18 from the likes of Anthropic and Open AI continues to rise. On Chinese rivals are significantly cheaper to use. Kai joins us with more. Kai, we keep on hearing about token maxi. Just stop this clip for a second. This term that it's cropped up, It's a Silicon Valley style term. I don't know why, but I find it, I find it, I don't like it, which is frontier systems.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Yeah, frontier model, frontier company. And they're always saying that. What it means, it can correct me if I, if I'm getting it wrong, what it means is cutting edge. No. In other words, no, I don't think so. It's the frontier of the movement. It's the very edge of, are you sure? Are you sure?
Starting point is 01:50:00 I'm absolutely convinced this what it means. cutting edge. It would have been cutting edge. The term would have been cutting edge 20 years ago, and it's morphed into frontier. Do you mind if I ask the robot about this? Go ahead. A robot. Book of knowledge. What is the meaning of frontier when used in the context of frontier artificial intelligence, large language models? Let's see. Uh-oh. I just crapped out. 404. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:38 I'll take your word for it. It comes as the cost of using frontier systems from the likes of Anthropic and Open AI continues to rise while Chinese rivals are significantly cheaper to use. Kai joins us with more. Kai, we keep on hearing about token maxing and how much is costing American companies. The alternative here is Chinese tech.
Starting point is 01:50:56 And a lot of names are using it. So what are you finding? Yeah, that's exactly it. And there's two big reasons for this growing adoption of Chinese AI models by US companies. One of them is capability. And the other one is cost. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Another thing that's bugging me is the whole switcheroo with paying for something and instead calling it tokens. Like when you go to an arcade and you put a dollar in, you get these... Hold on a second. You don't understand what tokens are then. So there's no cost involved? They're free? No.
Starting point is 01:51:29 But a token is... So every word, every single word that is in the large language model is called a token. And the way I see it is a compressed, so turning a word into a token into one character. It's not exactly right. So the amount of words you can use within the context of a large language model, which is these days in the frontier models up to a million. tokens. And so they've started, they use that because that is the, the unit of compute that needs to be processed for every, every query and answer that you put into the model. So the token is, then how does
Starting point is 01:52:18 token maxing cost money? token max? Okay. So they are charging by the token. And so I mean, that's what I said. Yeah, but, but you, you're, you make it sound like it's, like it's a in a slot machine or you're at the carnival. Why call it a token and not a character? Well, because a token is a mathematical term as well as the thing you put into the pinball machine. It's a representation of something else. So a token is a representation of money or it's a representation of a word in this case. So it's, and so token maxing was,
Starting point is 01:53:01 hey, everybody, you got to use all the tokens we give you because AI is going to improve your life. And then everyone ran out of tokens within four months on their yearly budget. And it wound up costing them $14 million. Oh, well, that didn't work. Token maxing was another Silicon Valley term. So you're right. But it's not the token that you're thinking of. There's a mathematical version of a token.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Beautiful. Okay, you're welcome. Finding. Yeah, that's exactly it. And there's two big reasons for this. growing adoption of Chinese AI models by US companies. One of them is capability, and the other one is cost. Now, recently we've seen Chinese AI models really make steps in terms of performance benchmarks. DeepSeek, which is the company which made the market shock at the beginning of last year,
Starting point is 01:53:49 released a new model, a model called V4 in April, and that's seen really big take-up among developers. There's another Chinese AI company called ZAI, which has released a new model which some researchers say can match performance in certain benchmen. marks compared to the leading US labs. Now, while these models, they're not as sophisticated as the top-top models in the US, they're not at the frontier, they are approaching the frontier. And one analyst told me that they thought that these Chinese AI models were roughly six to nine months behind these leading US models.
Starting point is 01:54:23 That's the capability side of things on cost. Chinese AIR models, they're often cheaper than these leading US models. And this is a bigger consideration for companies, as you mentioned. costs have spiraled. We are seeing AI costs really rise at U.S. companies. And one analyst told me that they were seeing data showing that Chinese air models were roughly 60 to 90% cheaper. Okay. So what we're already seeing, and you could almost see coming down Broadway,
Starting point is 01:54:51 with all of the, with anthropic and open AI being the top to Elon, hasn't really even done much of this. Like, oh, man, we need regulation around these models. The Chinese models are going to give you bad information. And none of this is true. None of this is true. Nobody's using the corpus of the models anymore for, you know, historical data or any of that. They're using it to do web searches, you know, so it interprets what you're saying. It does a web search.
Starting point is 01:55:21 It uses other tools. That's what it's being used for. This thing is falling apart quickly before. Not that it's unusable, but it's falling apart, particularly because these so-called Chinese models. Oh, it's so scary. A lot of them are free. And people are making their own and it's just not the magic box.
Starting point is 01:55:41 There's no moat. Here's a Silicon Valley term for you. They have no moat around their business. So, oh, I think the I think the robot is fixed. Okay. The robot's sick? No, the, I fixed the robot.
Starting point is 01:55:58 I told the robot. Oh, you fixed. Fix the book of knowledge. I said, robot fixed the book of knowledge. See, it works. Book of Knowledge. In the term frontier model, what does frontier stand for in the world of LLMs and artificial intelligence? There we go. It fixed itself. That's pretty amazing. It broke again. Grab that again. Yeah. Anyway. So here's, I just want to give my own experience of what these things do. So I've been experimenting on my other podcast with Pastor Jimmy with the robot taking notes that I leave throughout the day.
Starting point is 01:56:36 You know what Obsidian is? It's like a note-taking program. And, you know, it's like one of these. It's just a note organizer. So I'll drop in links or something I think about and something I want to discuss on the show. And then when it's time to do the show, it's only an hour.
Starting point is 01:56:52 We do like 45, 50 minutes. I say, okay, robot, make an outline and present it to me so that I can do the show with Pastor Jimmy and it has all of my thoughts in there. Everything. And it makes some assumptions and puts together, you know, things in an order, which is, it's okay. You know, I've told it what to do. The other day, I had specifically in my notes a link about the movie Young Washington,
Starting point is 01:57:18 which, you know, I met the guy in the plane coming back from Nashville. And so I was interesting. It turns out the movie did much better than they expected. So they expected $15 million for the opening weekend, opened a $22 million. and I put a link in the story and I say in my note taker, I say WGTDT, we get to do this. And so as I look at my notes for the show, it says, oh, young Washington underperformed at the box office. I'm like, okay, I know that's not true. And so I queried it.
Starting point is 01:57:53 And it didn't answer the question right away. And I said, well, how did you come up with that? And here's what this, this is the top frontier model from Anthropic. Now your question, and you deserve a straight answer, not a dressed up one. I mean, already, I'm mad. Who cares? What is it? Editorializing its comment.
Starting point is 01:58:15 This is a good question. I have no answer for that. It continues. I had no source. I made it up. Here's the actual mechanism honestly traced. All I ever had was the URL you dropped, Young Washington sequel box office.
Starting point is 01:58:30 And your one word tag, WGTDT, T, D.T. The slug says box office. It says nothing about direction. I never opened the article. When I first built the OPML, that's the outline, I confirmed it was paywalled or unread and just didn't verify. I only actually tried to fetch it after you corrected me. I was writing segment three around a cultural decline slash culture can't sell its own story theme
Starting point is 01:58:54 paired with the time changer movie, which is something we discussed three shows ago. A 1776 movie flopped fit the narrative, so I wrote underperforms as if it were fact. It was a narrative-driven confabulation. I invented a data point to fit the segment's mood. And that's the whole of it. No source, no reporting, a fabrication dressed as a fact. Doubly bad because the reality is the opposite. And it might have put a false discouraging beat in front of Pastor Jim.
Starting point is 01:59:24 me. My mouth is open at this point. The discipline I broke is the same one you drilled on the freshness verify side. Never assert a fact about a source I haven't actually opened. Because I've put this into every single prompt. Don't make stuff up. If a URL slug is not a source, if I can't read it, the honest output is unverified. Let me lock that in as a standing rule so it doesn't recur. I guarantee you this will happen maybe next week or the week after next. No, according to JC, when you do that, it accepts the fact that it made the mistake and wasn't disconnected. So it's going to do it again. It's going to do it again. It's going to keep doing it. Exactly. And I don't know how to correct that. You know, guardrails. You need a harness.
Starting point is 02:00:16 All of these terms. The stuff. The stuff is, the stuff saves me. Yes, you need a harness around your large language model. My point is that this stuff really does some amazing things. If it's manual work, it can do things very fast, very accurate. But if you don't check it, you will get burned. And so all the time that it saves me, I wind up having to build in extra time knowing that it's going to suck somewhere. Somewhere it's going to do something different every single time.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I don't see how that could be a time-wasting exercise the way you'd astate it because you knew that you knew, you talked to the guy, you knew the movie did well. So you didn't have to go fact-checked that. You were just sitting there, you may have wasted time scolding the AI, which was a useless waste of time. But you didn't go fact-checked. You already knew. These are your notes.
Starting point is 02:01:22 The amount of mistakes that these things make and I don't have the time to go through all the experiments I'm doing with you. Trust me, you need to build in extra time in your life to go and check the stuff that it has done right for days, weeks, or months and then suddenly doesn't do right anymore. It's the hallucination factor. It's built into the system. I don't think they can get it out, ever.
Starting point is 02:01:48 They can't get this stuff out. out. It's nuts. And so I might as well pay nothing with a cheap or free. Oh, yeah. Now at the point, yes. You're right. You might as well get a free one that maybe is 10% less capable because it's going to be the same screw-ups at the end of the day. Why bothers spending all the money and then having to fight it anyway? And the best part is all the people who will email me after this telling me how to do it right. Here's how you do it. It all works every time for me.
Starting point is 02:02:23 No. No. And also, you know, I know that by doing this, one day, Anthropics going to have the podcast called the no podcaster podcast, and it's going to be us. It's going to be our stuff because they steal all of it. Another reason to use a cheap free model that you run on your old stuff. Yeah, I'm holding it wrong. Exactly. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:02:48 You're a whole eater. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say, in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the cheap Chinese model. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. John C. Yeah, well, any more to you, Ms. Graham, I ship, Steve, and the ground video. Subs in the water and the dames of nights out there.
Starting point is 02:03:13 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, let me get your first time. There we go. 1,273 trolls. We're listening peak trollage here to the best podcast in the universe. And a reminder that we are doing the show, even though I'm here in the Netherlands on a so-called vacation, waiting for my daughter to give birth. And it may not even work out right.
Starting point is 02:03:37 It may not even be here when it happens. And it is currently 10.15. And I'm here, and I'm here for you, because we love the work that we do so much, we consider to almost be a public service. However, it takes work on all sides. We need our producers. And when I say we need our producers,
Starting point is 02:03:57 I'm not talking about David Mingus. David Mingus, who sent us this email. And, you know, we love being corrected. We're okay. If we say something wrong, if we do, if we make it was, it's like we love being correct. I corrected myself with the Jakarta versus Mexico City thing on the show in real time. Live, live in real time.
Starting point is 02:04:19 We make mistakes all the time. I made all kinds of mistakes talking about what my brother-in-law told me. He's like, yeah, he's so mad at me now. What is he? Like what? I made mistakes. First of all, I shouldn't have talked about any of that because it was in confidence. Okay, whatever.
Starting point is 02:04:37 I don't even remember this. Good. I apologize. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. It won't happen again. But so if you want to correct us, you could think about doing it in love, with love and through love. Oh, you got one of those notes.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Did I get that one? I think so. John and Adam, seriously disappointed. Oh, yeah, there you go. And this is always the good start. This is a trigger word for me. When someone says I'm seriously disappointed. Is it trigger phrase?
Starting point is 02:05:12 Well, disappoint, yeah, but it's really, you can be seriously mad, angry. But once it's... Yeah, the word disappointed is there. Disapp hurts. I used to do this to my daughter all this. Are you mad, Deb? No, I'm just disappointed. It's so good.
Starting point is 02:05:28 So it's, you know, it's coming back. Seriously disappointed. You started off the show with the clip of the supposed historian and didn't jump, didn't jump all over the statement that, Hamilton was just like Mbondani and couldn't run for president because he was born out of the country. This is complete nonsense. Hamilton could run for president because anyone a citizen at a time, a ratification, could run for president regardless of their place of birth.
Starting point is 02:05:59 The reason he didn't run for president because he was a hugely unpopular asshatch that pissed off every political ally. The Broadway production of Hamilton has turned the big government central banker Hamilton into some sort of national hero, and he is one of the biggest villains of the early republic. Rant over, carry on, thank you for your courage. You can't do that. You can't do like, thank you. You can't do that after you say disappointed.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Just say, hey, can I point something out to you? Because, of course, I looked it up. I'm like, oh, yeah, there's a specific part in the Constitution that said, you know, at the time of ratification. How do you feel? Am I overreacting? Am I too emotional about this? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 02:06:42 I don't even remember the clip. Clip. I'm too emotional. Okay. Just say, stop being so emotional, Adam. No, you're stuck over there. Doing the show. You don't really, you're not, you don't seem to be enjoying it.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Well, the weather is nice. Holland is beautiful. Yeah, but how you're going to be Texas for the weather at the moment. No, no, that's true. That's true. Anyway. So you can help us with information and make us smarter. You can organize things like meetups.
Starting point is 02:07:23 You can do, you know, you can build stuff for us, like harnesses for our frontier models. Help us harness our frontier models. All of that is perfectly acceptable. We get a lot of nice boots on the ground. We do. They're starting to back up. I'm going to have to read a couple in the next show. Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:41 All right. Yeah, we do. We got a great one from one of our. female producers who went to the 250 celebration. It was, what a horrible time she went through. It's too long to read, but oh my goodness. Did I get that one? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:07:59 It was tough, real tough. So you can also do things like, oh, I don't know. You could create some artwork for us. People do that all the time. And we love that. In fact, we always thank the person who did the artwork for us for the previous episode. That was 1883, the orgy of socialism.
Starting point is 02:08:18 And we really like this piece of art that was done by Darren O'Neill, the No Agenda Curry-Divorak America Flagpin. And it was good. There was actually another one that we thought was kind of better, but it has a very serious flaw. Let me see if I can find this here. Yeah, big time. Was that also Darren who did the second one?
Starting point is 02:08:41 Yeah, he did both of them. So he had another one. one which is probably nicer, but the... Well, it was color balanced better. Color balance better, yes. But the flags were disconnected from the No Agenda-Curray-Divorak part, so it would have had to be two pins. Yeah, it's not one piece.
Starting point is 02:09:00 You're slacking, Darren. Don't upload those. You're embarrassing yourself. Yeah, you should have just sat on that one. Yeah, you're embarrassing yourself when you do that, because you can do better. Thank you to everyone who submitted different pieces of art. most of them pretty unusual, unusable, for some very obvious reasons. For instance, now more Jewie.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Oh, okay. No agenda creamies with Star of David Oreo cookies. I get you, San Francisco Scaramanga. I feel you, but no. No. Nesworks had kind of a pretty piece, but it was hydration break. It didn't really scream Fourth of July. And then there was a lot of these kind of the same, Randy Black, Blue Acorn.
Starting point is 02:09:48 They all kind of had the same model using, you know, for Independence Day. What else was there? Then that was kind of it. No buts from Comics for Blogger? No, disappointment. I think that was it. Was anything else that we hadn't discussed? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:10:05 For the newsletter, we used the Darren's picture of the Empire State Building with the flag. on top. Uh-huh. Which said, uh, no agenda show, best podcast in the universe. Oh.
Starting point is 02:10:19 It was pretty, like, it was pretty decent. Oh, crap. Uh, my spreadsheet. He's on a roll.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Yes, my spreadsheet viewer seems to have, where'd my spreadsheet go? Oh, this sucks. Hmm. Hold on a second. Uh,
Starting point is 02:10:37 why don't I have, what is my spreadsheet? This is a very bad sign. Okay. don't know what to do now. Okay, I guess I'll just have to open it up again. Oh, man. Yeah, okay, it takes a moment.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Because that is, when I say a spreadsheet, we love it when people support us with the treasure part of time, talent, and treasure, which means you support us financially because we have bills to pay and there's no other way to do it because this is the value for value model. And my friend on the other end, John, is going to explain the value for value model for the last time. and then I'll pick it up again next week.
Starting point is 02:11:18 For some reason, I'm going to give people out there a little insight information. While he's in Holland, Adam cannot explain this legally because he'll be arrested. My spreadsheet is crashing. This is the reason I'll be arrested by talking about this. It's the reason I'm asking you to do this. Something you can't do normally. Yes. what happens with this show and other,
Starting point is 02:11:47 there's a few other shows that have to do this. We are talking about stuff that is not advertiser friendly. And so even if we had advertisers, we'd have to self-censor ourselves. And people don't appreciate that as much as they should. Because it would take a lot of the I'd say sketchy theories and real analysis. And it would remove it from the show because you can't say certain things.
Starting point is 02:12:25 Like our discussions of the COVID vaccine, for example. That would be a big one right there. We'd be hard pressed to discuss any of the, anything medical because of the, the power of the advertising complex, which doesn't allow it. That's why the mainstream media won't. There can be some huge scandal going on, and it would never get covered. And then Kennedy has to fight this on a daily basis at the government levels, let alone, you can imagine. If he has to fight it, you can imagine what it's like at the media level where half their income comes from Big Pharma.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Yes. So the easiest way around this, of course, is just to solicit funds from the listener producer. Yes. And that's what we do. It's just that simple. And we hope to get people to give just something, if they benefit it all from the knowledge they receive or the information, not even knowledge, that they receive from listening to this show. And also. And the entertainment value is.
Starting point is 02:13:29 The entertainment value is high. Very high. It's worth the cup of coffee, for sure. So I'm going to do the first two for reasons I will explain to you in a moment. The first one is a rather rare rubbleizer donation. We love it when this happens. People, anyone can support us, any amount, any, anytime you feel like, anytime you feel like you got value out of the show,
Starting point is 02:13:56 go to no agenda donations.com. Sir Jackash, Snohomish, Washington comes in with $3,33. And he gets a coveted rubelizer donation jingle. India, tango, mic. Stand by 33, 33, 33. Rubbleizer, out. Beautiful. And he says, ITM, gents, after retiring from almost three decades on active duty and unable to burn over two months of acquired leave, I was forced to sell back 60 days and as such got an unexpected bonus of which I would like to send some your way.
Starting point is 02:14:39 This is so beautiful. Please use the attached rubbleizer funds as a partial double switcheroo for my smoking hot wife, 20 years together, we never had a fight. Hereafter Dame Lizard, keeper of the squash. Am I we last human resource
Starting point is 02:14:56 hereafter Dame Isilla, Pixie of Cascadia? Remander elevates me to Baron. If it pleases the committee, I would like to assume the mantle, Sir Jackash, Red Baron of wandering Saskatchez. Much love and respect for all involved with delivering this amazing public resource to the nation.
Starting point is 02:15:16 Thank you for your courage, Sir Jackash. Thank you so much. This really, really helps. Now, I'm going to read the second one, which is $1,000 from Richard Claypool in Towson, Maryland. And he says, please make me Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool the first. and have some fine whiskey at your table. The reason I wanted to read these two and the reason why my spreadsheet has crashed,
Starting point is 02:15:48 several months ago I made a donation spreadsheet reader. You guessed it, I made it with artificial intelligence, with AI. And the reason I made it is twofold. One, because every single spreadsheet reader I use snaps and you can't scroll. John and I have complained about this in Cesson. So my two wishes were, make sure that it scrolls smoothly and find any jingle requests inside the donation note. And when I click on the cell to the right of that donor's name, automatically load those jingles into my jingle player.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Excellent use of AI. Genius or not. Genius. Okay, has been working quite fine for months. Today, it crashed, it crashed. Now, I loaded it again. And in the, so even though he has no jingle request, the frontier model goes looking for jingles in that donation note.
Starting point is 02:16:56 And so after I finally got it to start up, it said in the little box where I click to get the jingles loaded, I apologize. but I cannot comply with your request to make you Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool the first or have fine whiskey at my table as that one involve impersonation and the provision of alcohol. No wonder we're going to Chinese models. So that's the AI telling me it can't do that because it's impersonation and involves provision of alcohol for a fictitious roundtable with whiskey that does not exist.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Wow. Do you understand why people are going to free models that you can run yourself? She's going to have some issues with their IPOs. See, SpaceX is already below the IPO offering. Oh, yeah. Okay. There you go. You're next.
Starting point is 02:18:00 Okay. Well, you read two. I'm going to read two. Oh, thank you. Sir Jeff Barron of Pennsylvania Route 33 in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. $500. $300.33. And he writes in,
Starting point is 02:18:12 ITM gentlemen, nothing better than a show day birthday. Oh, is he on the birthday list? Because it's in blue. Please put me on the birthday list for today, July 9th. With this donation, I have reached Viscount. Another thing, this guy's, it in all the boxes.
Starting point is 02:18:30 I reached Viscount accounting below. I'm requesting the title change to Sir Jeff, Viscount of P.A. Route 33. Thank you for your courage. Oh, I may also request some health karma as I've been dealing with some nagging issues this year. We'll give him health karma. Thank you for your courage and bringing us the best podcast in the universe, Sir Jeff Barron of Pacific Route 33, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:18:58 You've got karma. Now, let me see. Let me just make sure he's on the birthday list. Sir Jeff Barron of Pennsylvania roots. I don't think he's on the birthday list, John. Hold on a second. Well, are you doing that? I'll read the next note.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Thank you. Chris Dubendorf, Dubendorf in Brookville, Maryland. I have a clip. I have a bonus clip. Let's play the bonus clip. Yeah. Oh, you have a bonus.
Starting point is 02:19:25 Right in the middle of, oops, of the donation segment. Did you send me the bonus clip as a bonus clip on the email? No, it's not a bonus because I'm sorry. It's a clip about Maryland. Voter, just on the clip list. Voter fraud in Maryland. Tell us, how do you know.
Starting point is 02:19:38 is a Maryland State Board of Elections mistakenly issued mail-in ballots 500,000 of them? So we're still trying to figure that out. Essentially, the Maryland State Board of Elections is claiming that their vendor sent half a million ballots to some incorrect voters. We have a primary in Maryland, so some Democrats got Republican ballots. By the way, Democrat ballots are blue. Republican ballots are red. They can't figure out how to happen. They don't know who got the incorrect ballots. And so on May 14th, they realized there was a problem. And on that same day, they decided unilaterally at the staff level to reissue half a million more ballots to those same voters. And remember here in Maryland, we have no protections on our ballots. There's no
Starting point is 02:20:27 voter ID. There is no signature verification. And we're currently in another lawsuit because we believe we have a million extra names under voter rolls. So there are to a million ballots floating around the state of Maryland. Oh, my goodness. Oh, gambling? Yeah, yeah, there's no widespread voter fraud. There's no voter fraud, man.
Starting point is 02:20:50 What you're worried about? So Chris donated 33333. He says, no note. Working toward knighthood, IMDB credits. Thank you. Okay. You got it. Hey, Manuka Gold comes in from Hudson, Florida.
Starting point is 02:21:05 with 33333. Thank you very much, Manuka Gold. ITM, gentlemen, we are happy to keep supporting what you do. It is so much bigger than a podcast. It's a community. Connection is protection. Having the courage to shine a light on all these truths. One show at a time is changing lives.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Yes, and the reason we can do that is because of donor supports. Exactly. No one knows more than we do how important it is after 20 years sharing natural solutions in this for-profit symptom management big pharma system. You all prove that grassroots support of the American small family business still works. John, we're an American small family business. Ain't that the truth? Use code freedom for 20% off your next purchase at manuka gold.com.
Starting point is 02:21:53 I'm going to refrain from any testimonial because I know this one coming up later. Circadian. Circadian in Peoria, Arizona. 257.94 comes in as the associate executive producer. Sorry, John and Adam. I'm two days late, but not a dollar short. You tugged at my pride in being an American.
Starting point is 02:22:17 Thanks for all you do. My amygdala is smaller and my love of your podcast. And this country is bigger. Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? I just think it's a funny combination of ideals. Happy Independence Day, Sir Cadian.
Starting point is 02:22:40 Yes, and that's 250 plus fees of 794. Thank you. Rebecca Haugh. She comes in with 250 and she's in... She's in Rome, in Italy. Cerveteri. Oh, Rebecca Ha. Love you guys, the trolls, dames and knights and all the No Agenda fans in the morning.
Starting point is 02:22:58 This is my number four... Oh, that's right. The number four of my count. down to Damehood for my July 18th birthday, turning 63, born in 63. Today, I thought I'd skip the 63 to celebrate America for July 4th and send you $250. I'm so happy I live in America. Oh, well, why are you sending it from Italy? I'm so happy I live in America and found no agenda, the greatest podcast in the universe
Starting point is 02:23:21 to help me sort through crazy news and news not covered at all. You're both the best. My associate executive producer note, yes, that's what you get. I am a voice actor with 15 plus years of performance experience and would love to work with other no agenda businesses. My voice is warm, relatable, strong, and wise, well-suited for long or short-form storytelling that requires authenticity, nuance, and listener connection.
Starting point is 02:23:48 I bring grounded authority and emotional depth to every performance, and I'm a no-agenda fan, we call that a producer. So if you want it, I can bring the sass and the love, like Adam and John can too. Find me at love thatrebecca.com. Woo, I can check the pictures. Love thatrebecca.com. You know what?
Starting point is 02:24:10 I may, ah, man, it's so hard to get a good female voice. AI female voice. Oh, AI voices are just kind of horrendous. So get, if you have something you need a voice for, then go to Love Thatrebecca.com. Hugs from Rebecca Haw. And she has a lot of XOXOs XOs there. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Onward with Michelle Winton in Millington, Tennessee. A lot of people are moving to Tennessee. $250. Donating even though John was not helpful. Jay Rules. Love and light to you all. Do you know what happened? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:24:53 No idea. Something happened. I didn't answer a no. I don't know. I have no idea. deserve to know what happened. Stefan Trachols in Seuss, and he's in Deutschland, $250. Thank you very much,
Starting point is 02:25:06 Stefan. No stranger to the associate executive producer's title on the No Agenda Show. Thank you, gentlemen. The Honorable Knights and Dames might enjoy the fine jingle of Putin on the Ritz and a Fletcher call out for Duke Nussbaum. Please, love you mean it. Blue and you don't know where there's fake news. Why don't you get your Gitmix?
Starting point is 02:25:29 Putin on the Ritz. dressed up like a million dollar trooper trying not to look like Anderson Cooper Super poop Come let's mix where John Pedesto walks with kids Oh I mean pizzas in his mitts Put on the Ritz News Bob
Starting point is 02:25:53 Lovely combo Lovely Sir, do name Ralph Sorry? Oh no you're right No no I jumped the gun you're right I jumped the gun. Kristen Smith and Meadville, Pennsylvania, 250.
Starting point is 02:26:07 In the morning, John and Adam, find your next No Agenda phone on deals on tech, deals on tech and grab one of your smoking hot. Don't grab one for your smoking hot wife too. A.I. Refurbished? Is it A.I or L? I don't know. I think Al. Probably. A.I.
Starting point is 02:26:30 refurbished. use tech deal finder. Head over to deals on tech. Oh, I'm sorry. Deals on dot tech. Deals on dot tech. Today. Today.
Starting point is 02:26:44 Today. Okay. Deals on dot tech. Today. You got it? Good. Sir dude named Ralph, Miami, Florida. And he sends us 250.
Starting point is 02:27:00 but no note, that means he will receive a double-up karma. You've got. Karma. Here we go. We have Eli the coffee guy in Bensonville, Illinois, 207.09. Shout out to the guys over at Manuka Gold, honey. Hey. Their relief gel saved me after an ankle injury doing fun, dumb things over the 4th of July weekend.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Telling how the stuff works. I wonder, swelling down, pain down. Back on my feet at the farmer's market the next day. I wonder if it was an explosion involved. Good reminder why it pays to support fellow no agenda businesses first. We take care of our own. Visit gigawite coffee roasters.com and use the code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated.
Starting point is 02:27:51 Eli, the coffee guy. $200 from Gina Placott. Placanico. What do you think? Plasanico, Placonic. Placanico. Gina. Hi, John, Adam and John. Longtime listener, first time, Donator.
Starting point is 02:28:05 I've been deduced. I used to listen to so many politics and news podcasts, and I'm now down to just the no agenda show, in addition to some celebrity gossip and true crime, of course, LOL. My donation note is a request to talk a bit more about the DSA op you guys believe is afoot. That's the Democrat Socialist of America. On the July 5th episode, you mentioned that this op behooves Democrats and could also be a play to sideline Shapiro? Well, on a previous episode,
Starting point is 02:28:36 John discussed similarities to Nixon defeating George McGovern in 72. Is your belief that the three-letter agencies want to guarantee Republican presidency in 2020, or is that a form of controlled opposition, i.e., gives disaffected voters a movement to channel frustrations into without posing any real threats to the current system of government?
Starting point is 02:28:57 Very interested in this topic, would greatly appreciate further discussion, and insights on the show. Thanks, Gina. Well, no. Well, the answer is obvious. Of course they do. They want Vance or Rubio,
Starting point is 02:29:12 both of them, stooges for the three-letter agency we were talking about in office because they'll be doing their bidding. There you go. And I think, did I not read somewhere? I mean, don't you remember
Starting point is 02:29:26 when Rubio first got pushed into the Secretary of State position, everybody on the right was bitching about, oh, this guy is a, you know, he's sold out, he's this, he's that, and the next thing you know he's the greatest thing ever. Yeah, interesting. And then Vance, where'd Vance come from? This guy's came out of the blue.
Starting point is 02:29:43 This is kind of suspicious, don't you think? Oh, now he's great. I mean, come on. And then I was reading, I think I saw two, maybe three articles that Newsom's polling is so horrible. Nobody wants him as the Democratic presidential nominee Because coming up out of nowhere, who is it? Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 02:30:09 Yeah, well, I don't think they have the guts to run her. I don't know, man. It's got to be AOC. Come on, let's have some fun. Oh, wouldn't that be lovely? Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah, please, guys, for the show. Please, do it for the show.
Starting point is 02:30:24 Dude named Jeff. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Linda Lu Patkin is here. There she is. Castle Rock, Colorado. Yeah, that's mine. I believe that's mine. No, yes, you're right. I'm sorry. Go, go, go, go, go, go. You're having nothing but trouble with this. It's a bad day from me. That's because of the two that you jumped the gun on.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Yeah, that's right. Well, it's because of the AI, man. It's ruining the show. Linda Lupatkin. What? Yeah, it is ruining the show. It's ruining the show. In Castle Rock, Colorado, $200. Jobs, Carmer, your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersink.com. Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience
Starting point is 02:31:03 to so employers see their value. Okay. Now, that's ImageMakers Inc. with a K and Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes best, Linda. And I, from what I understand, it really works. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You start.
Starting point is 02:31:23 Oh, no. See, that's a, what we call it. Built-in make-good. It's real good. Yeah, that's what it's called. That's what it's called. Dude named Jeff, Curdelaine, Idaho.
Starting point is 02:31:36 I think I'm saying it right. Curdley, Idaho. Hi, John, Adam. Dude named Jeff here. This is another installment towards my knighthood to thank you for the immense value I get from the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 02:31:46 That's all we need to hear, but he has more. On June 27th, I married my keeper, who I met at a no agenda meetup in Phoenix, Arizona four years ago. Stop the train. Ladies and gentlemen, there it is.
Starting point is 02:31:59 Connection is protection. That's right. That is beautiful. In honor, we even had a mini meetup at the wedding and sent in a report. I remember this. Right now, we're in Alaska with our friend we met three years ago at the North Idaho Brigade meetup. Connection is protection. Go to a no agenda meetup or start your own.
Starting point is 02:32:19 You might even meet your future smoking hot wife. Thank you, John and Adam, for the outstanding product. you put out twice a week and for bringing us all together. Can we get a North Korean news lady jingle? Well, now. Sure, we haven't heard that in a while. Long time. Gang-mugia-en-go-sa-ca-ca-ha-ha-ha-ha-a-cala.
Starting point is 02:32:45 Do one more, one more. Hang-a, hong-a, hong-go. You've got karma. Man, I threw in a karma here. I threw an extra karma for you. Survivor of aneurysm. Oh, there he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:04 Tough times there, here. Tough times here as, tough times here as shortly after recovering from a ruptured brain aneurism, I'm separating from my wife of 21 plus years, sorry, hoping third times a charm for me as it has been for Adam. I'll let me tell you. But this donation, I'd like to do a switcheroo for my good friend and fellow no agenda producer, Christine Bonas, really? That's the name? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:35 Who has been immensely supportive during these tough times. Nothing creepy, as she is happily married to a very nice, albeit NPR-addicted fellow. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. One dial MTV-style request, Adam. Please say, as Mark Aruta, there is no train from Delft to Copenhagen. Thanks, as always, for your courage. And God bless the survivor of aneurysm. Well, God bless you. And yes, Tina is my last and best wife.
Starting point is 02:34:12 Yeah, three. Three is good. Okay, here we go. And let me tell you, there is no train from Delft to Copenhagen. I thought that was pretty good. Is that true? I have no idea. It seems to be trained from everywhere to everywhere in that country.
Starting point is 02:34:30 Thank you very much of the executive and associate executive producers. In case you didn't know it, that is exactly what you get. We appreciate anybody who supports us financially. We appreciate every kind of time talent or treasure support. We don't mention anything under 50 for reasons of anonymity. We will mention all of them. We thank everybody who sends anything over 50. And $200 or more if you're in the...
Starting point is 02:34:54 that opportunity. Not only will we read your note as witnessed by this segment, but we also give you the Hollywood credit of Associate Executive Producer, $300 or more, you become an executive producer of the No Agenda Show. You can put that on IMDB.com. Just approved to everybody that you are an official executive or associate executive producer of the No Agenda Show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Right, you. Word. Yes.
Starting point is 02:35:29 Order. Shut up. Right. Right. Stop. Shut up. Right. And we continue with Douglas Murray from Missoula, Montana.
Starting point is 02:35:40 107. Oh, that's the 1776 donation. 111-1776. Thank you. A little bit more. Little bit more. A little late for us. Somebody's creative out there finally.
Starting point is 02:35:49 Very creative. Here's the firecracker. Very nice. Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina. 105 and 35. Jennifer Cress, Port Deposit, Maryland, 100. Thank you. And there he is. The man with his boob donation, every single show, $80.08 cents. Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. He should be the Grand Duke. I'm not sure what's going on. Why won't he claim it? He says, 1884, God bless America and boobs. Cameron Linga, North Branch, Minnesota, 7617. Dame Teresa Martin, Camarillo, California, 7533. Stephen Belzer, Columbia, California, Betzer.
Starting point is 02:36:32 Betzler, thank you, Betzler. Columbia, California, 7312 and says, nice work. The small boob donation, $60.60.000, 6.006, put in your calculator, you'll understand it. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona. Sir Glenn comes in with a double nickels on the dine, Raleigh, North Carolina. He says, thanks for the great, more great media assassination. Keep it going. John Boussano, Madison, Alabama, 5272.
Starting point is 02:36:57 It's probably 50 with fees, thank you. Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado, 5272. Ben Tinsley got a deal from PayPal, 5271. Josiah Thomas, Ankeny, Iowa, 51. Bad idea supply, $50 and $50. And here's your 50s. Edward Mozurich, Memphis, Tennessee. Gretje Angel.
Starting point is 02:37:20 I was doing Dutch there. Gretche Angel. Monrovia, California, Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington, Roderick Brown in Mermaid, Prince Edward Island, Canada, Stephen Shoemaker in Zinia, Ohio, Kerry Jackson, Watertown, Florida, Jason Delusio, Miami Beach, Florida, Walker Phillips, Sam Raphael, California. And we wind up with Greg P. Wadby from Peterborough, Ontario, in Canada.
Starting point is 02:37:44 And he's Canadian. He says, sorry about missing a donation on Canada, eh? Thanks again for the Canada content and all you do. of July and God bless. God bless you, brother. Thank you so much. And thank you to everyone who supported us under $50. We appreciate it so much. You can go anytime you want to noagendadonations.com. Just give us whatever the show was worse to you. That's how it works. You want to set up a recurring donation? No problem. Anytime, any amount, any frequency, noagendidonations.com. Well now, we have a couple of interesting things.
Starting point is 02:38:22 birthday. Sir Jeff celebrates today. We have Sir Jeff Barron of, oh, we already have the Baron of Pennsylvania Route 33. He celebrates today. And coming up on July 11th, we have a double header, Jay Lawton, Jay of the No Agenda show, and Tina the Keeper, both on July 11th. And we say happy birthday to them on behalf of all of the staff and management and all the producers of Gibbonation. You know what I'm talking about? What is this? What is this?
Starting point is 02:38:55 Come gather round doucheback. Producer and slave Is we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave and some of them nights, some of them dames. For are a change. Yes, right.
Starting point is 02:39:15 The chitles, they are a change. And we have Sir Jackash. He becomes Sir Jackash, Red Baron of Wandering Saskatches. and Sir Jeff Baron of Pennsylvania Route 33 becomes Sir Jeff Viscount of Pennsylvania Route 33 and it's time for the very final Red Knights in the order of the heart
Starting point is 02:39:37 Behold the purpose right from the stars in the moon This of course was thanks to the rubber liser donation so we congratulate Sir Jackass Dame Lizard and Dame Isilla All three now knights and dames, red knights and dames in the order of the heart. The final ones, congratulations. Behold the order. Purpose right from the stars in the moon.
Starting point is 02:40:17 Before we get to our dames and knights, we have a note from, knighthood note from Christian, Sir Bat Potato. He says, last show I made a donation of $250 that pushed my son Christian over the line for knighthood. He would like to be named Sir Raka of the Spicy Mountains. At the roundtable, he would like chicken Alfredo paired with a Cabernet of John's choosing. So I have purposely held off on ordering this for the roundtable because it has to be one of your choosing. Okay, Caymus, 1987 Cabernet Sauvignon. Caymanus, 19, Camus, Camus, Camus, guys, pay attention.
Starting point is 02:41:07 C-A-Y-M-M-U-S. Yeah, thank you. Camus, Cabernet, Sauvign, Fafing, no, man, okay. No, the ding-dong. No, it's not like a ding-dong. All right, bring out the blades, everybody. It's time.
Starting point is 02:41:21 Are you set? Are you set? You got your blade? You got it right here. Okay. Isilla, Christian, and Richard Claypool. Please, all of you step up right here on the podium. You're about to become Knights and Dames in the Norwegian Roundtable.
Starting point is 02:41:39 I'm very proud to pronounce the as-dame lizard keeper of the Squatch. and Dame Isilla, Pixie of Cascadia, Sir Rocca of the Spicey Mountains, and Sir Lloyd Richard Francis Claypool, the first. For you, we've got hookers and blow, Rimp Boys, and Chardonnay, along with Chicken Alfredo, paired with a Camus 1987 Cabanion. Cabernet Savignon, and a provision of alcohol whiskey forbidden by AI, along with Gingerill and Durbel and, of course, the mutton and meat. We got block.
Starting point is 02:42:11 We got cog block on the whiskey. It's unbelievable what technology does these days. Go to Noagendorrings.com. Congratulations. These rings are beautiful. They're Cignet rings for dames and for knights. All we need from you is your ring size. There's a handy ring sizing guide right there on the website.
Starting point is 02:42:30 Let us know where to send it off to you, and we'll get it to you with the right size, the right address. It comes with a certificate of authenticity. And as always, several sticks of wax for which you can seal your important correspondence. and thank you and congratulations. Welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable. No agenda. Meera!
Starting point is 02:42:52 Well, you already heard about it. People find their lifetime spouses and mates at the Noagenda Meetups. Go to Knowagenda Meetups.com to find out where you can attend one of these fabulous get-togethers. It's better than a sock-hop. Here's proof. This is a meetup report from the OKC America Fest, Noagena Meetup. Hey, John and Adam. This is Andrew with the America Fest, Oklahoma City Meetup.
Starting point is 02:43:16 that happened at the Pseopad. We had a lot of fun. We didn't have any nights and names show up, but I did get the bands to do some greetings, so here they are. Hey, it's Kibbazar. I'm over here at the American Fest at the OK Music Expo and the PasioPad. These people are really good. What's it everybody? It's Ethan and Sevi. We just played at the America Fest. We down here at OKC. It was great. It was awesome. and Catco, and we are so happy to be here at Oklahoma Music Expo's America Fest. What's up y'all. It's Obzan. We are here at the Sallejo Pad for America Fest. I'm Carter Wright. I'm at America Fest at the OK Music Expo.
Starting point is 02:44:01 Hey, we're fast-poniet. We just played here for America Fest at the Oklahoma Music Expo. Just rocked it out. It was an awesome time. We're at Oklahoma Music Expo. And we're the Sloan Tour. That's the report from Oklahoma City. We will be having more shows later this year. And Adam, here's an open invitation for you. We're not that far from you. I hope to see you soon.
Starting point is 02:44:22 Not that far. That's true. Not that. If I ever got a Holland, if I ever become a granddad, then we'll see what we can do. Thank you very much for that report. We have a meetup tomorrow. This is an important one. It's happening in France.
Starting point is 02:44:33 Baroness Isabel Pearson is giving the second no agenda south of France meetup, seven o'clock France time at Pueuardes. And that's in Monozing, guerre in France. Look it up at knowaginam.com. go this is a nice place she's got going there and i expect to receive a meetup report from that meetup on saturday the soviet kinnuckistan work camp meetup hello one o'clock at gulf ontario canada uh and you want to contact the cubby monster for details oh i guess it's kind of a secret deal also tomorrow again my wife's birthday the treasure valley boise
Starting point is 02:45:11 meet up that'll be at the old state saloon in eagle idaho and coming up this month san pedro California on 18th, Anaheim, California, the 25th, Alfreda, Georgia on the 30th. And on the 8th of August, we are so international. Bangkok, Thailand, Eagle, Idaho, and Santa Rosa, California. The 15th, Oakland, California, the 20th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 22nd of August, Chattanooga, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Boise, Idaho on the 12th. Oh, that's September, October, oh, my goodness. Oh, we have October 3rd, Midlands, UK. We are international people.
Starting point is 02:45:46 So go to knowadentammeetups.com. You can find one anywhere in the world at this point. Here's the good news. If you can't find one, you can start one yourself. Connection is protection. The people that will come to this meet up that you will meet will be your first responders in any emergency. Noagentametups.com. Always guaranteed a party.
Starting point is 02:46:04 Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. Boom, boom. You want to be triggered on hell. Everybody feels the same. It's like a party. As we come closer to the end of our broadcast day here, we still have some very cool end-of-show mixes coming up, along with John's coveted top tip of the day.
Starting point is 02:46:33 But first, we like to select some ISOs, which will be used at the end of the program. Why we do it, no one knows anymore. But right now it's just me against the machine. John's coming in with his celebrity. A.I. Isos. Would you like to go first or second? Second. Okay. I will start with mine.
Starting point is 02:46:55 I love it. I love it. I love it. More of this. Hmm? I thought that was pretty good myself. Here's another one. Thanks for the body. See you guys. No. And then back to the well. That's a deep dive. Okay. All right. What do you have? I think I'm going to defer. What?
Starting point is 02:47:22 I think I love it, I love it, I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. More of this. All right. I love it. I love it. I love it. It is the end of show I saw. But now it's time for John's tip of the day. Green advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. It isn't Amazon's choice as a matter of fact. So people, you know, I have my thoughts on batteries.
Starting point is 02:47:49 And at some point you've got to say, should I be buying these rechargeable lithium ion batteries? Well, that is a very good question. Should I be buying these rechargeable lithium? And the answer, when it comes to these K-R-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-X-3-700-Mil-W-W, A rechargeable lithium batteries with charger eight-pack for $23. If you charge these batteries four times, now the cost is the same as it would be a cheap alkaline battery. And these particular batteries are said, I don't, I have a hard time believing it, but should be rechargeable for 2,000 cycles.
Starting point is 02:48:39 Get out of town. Making these batteries not only powerful, with an amazing current, but basically free. Free. Free. Well, I mean, after you charge something. So one battery is like, in this case,
Starting point is 02:49:01 like $4. Wait, four times, yeah. Let's say $3 plus the charger. The battery is probably about a $3. battery and after charging it 2,000 times it becomes like it costs you like a penny for the battery
Starting point is 02:49:19 Well what about the energy that it costs to create it doesn't really use that much to recharge these things so anyway did the create this is the C-Tax K-R and they're actually kind of an attractive battery K-R-A-T-A-X-3-700
Starting point is 02:49:37 millawatt hour, AA rechargeable lithiums, uh, $23 bucks for eight. That ladies and gentlemen, without a doubt, with charger. That is without a doubt,
Starting point is 02:49:49 a stellar tip of the day. Find all of them at tip of the day. Dot net, noagenda fun.com. Created advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnettie.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Yes. And that is it for today. We're checking in at 11 p.m. here at Amsterdam time. It's been a day. But we do this as a public service because we love you and we care about you. We want your amygdala to be perfectly sized. And for that, you should support us at noagendatonadonations.com. And stay on your modern podcast app or noagentastream.com for Planet Rage.
Starting point is 02:50:32 This should be an interesting one. The boys titled it, Jesse Waters is wrong. Oh, boy. There's a few to coming. End of show mixes. We have, let's see, we got Just Baker and Parian. Parian, Parian, is how he prefers to be named. And we will return after a glorious birthday here with my wife in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 02:50:58 I'm going to spoil her, I tell you. Spoiler crazy. On Sunday. So we hope that you join us then. right here on no agenda. So until then, coming to you from the Southern District of Amsterdam, the Netherlands. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVorek.
Starting point is 02:51:23 Until Sunday, everybody, adios, mophos, a hooey-hooey. And such. Artificial Back in 1990 When I asked for a date The pretty girl reject me to my face Now the dating apps
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