No Agenda - 1886 - "Cytoshitosis"

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I like me some bubbles. You like your bubbles. I like bubbles. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorey DeVore. It's Thursday, July 16, 2026. It's your award-winning Kimmer Nation Media Assassination Episode 1886. This is no agenda. Suffering from Rang Stick Backscatter.
Starting point is 00:00:17 And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm wondering, what is Microsoft? Hello and why would I want it to enhance my experience? I'm John C. DeVorek. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Wait a minute. Isn't Microsoft Hello a really old product? Cropped up this morning on a boot. On a boot? A boot of the machine. It says, hello. Would you like to install Microsoft Hello to enhance your experience? What is it? What is Microsoft? I don't know. I never saw. I heard of it.
Starting point is 00:00:59 It sounds like, you know, when you said that, the first thing I thought was, remember, the old Mac 512, and you boot that up and it would have that cursive, hello. Yeah, the little hello guy. The little hello, yeah. Hmm. I'm sure it's some kind of AI thing that, no, that can't be because your system. That was co-pilot. No, co-pilot, schmoh-pilot, but your system doesn't upgrade. Be a co-pilot, Schmobile.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Co-pilot, smote. Co-pilot, smote, I tell you. Isn't that in, isn't your system un-upgradable? Exactly. Yeah, I know. It's Windows 10. That's interesting. So maybe it must be, they must have upgraded your, what's that browser called?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Edge. Oh, that's possible. Your Edge browser, yeah. Microsoft, remember they integrated the browser into everything? They're always screwing with you. It became such a nightmare. Everybody was creating viruses. And there was a point when I think of Windows,
Starting point is 00:02:08 he just couldn't turn it on. It's like, don't turn it on today. It's not a good idea. Oh, yeah, because it was Tuesday. Patch Tuesday. They were going to load up some junk that was going to ruin your machine. No, it wasn't patch Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It was when they had Internet Explorer and, you know, like, well, we're integrating the Internet into everything. So you open up your files, you know, a file window. And it would be connected to the Internet. Just in case. Just in case. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Just in case. You need to browse the web. Oh, my goodness. Oh, we've come a long way. Come a long way. And thank you very much for the rain stick. You're killing people. You're the one who insisted.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Well, it was a request by a producer. And I was in Amsterdam and I did not have. have my rain stick with me. And you were pointing it at Colorado. But as always, it's the backscatter. It's the butt of the stick. I just pointed straight up in the air. Well, the radials must have been somehow bouncing off the ionosphere.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It has rained here for five days, almost nonstop. You haven't been there for five days. How would you know? What do you mean? We came back on Monday. Okay, four days. But it was raining on Sunday. How would I know?
Starting point is 00:03:27 I know people here. I thought you didn't get out much. And if you recall, last year in July, it was July 4th, July 4th weekend. We had a very similar scenario where we had just a storm front just hovering over all of the hill country. And it wound up killing a couple hundred people, you know, kids and holiday camps. So it may not be. as bad, well, for a couple of reasons. One, the alert system is just going off nonstop now,
Starting point is 00:04:04 three times in the middle of the night. And for some reason, on the iPhone, you can't, well, you can, you can turn it off and say, don't give me alerts. But that's kind of like the whole point is if there's something, you know, some dire situation, you kind of want to be alerted to it. But I think they're overdoing it now, which is bad, because they didn't do it as much last year. Yeah, it's like crying wool.
Starting point is 00:04:27 A little bit. Well, I got two earthquake alerts over the last couple of weeks. Yeah. There was no earthquake. In either case, there was no earthquake. Yeah. And there was none around. There wasn't an earthquake anywhere in the vicinity.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And I got one of them was duck and cover. And the other one was find something to hold on to. No. Yeah. Stand in a doorway. Anyway, it is bad here. They're talking about a 35-foot wall of water. coming down the Guadalupe River.
Starting point is 00:04:59 This is not good. Curville, which is about 25 minutes down the road, stores and restaurants are flooding. It's not good. First of all, let's get one thing, so everyone out there knows this. What is your elevation? Well, my elevation here is almost 1,400 feet.
Starting point is 00:05:21 1400 feet. You're almost on a mountain. Pretty much. So people don't have to worry about you. People like John C. Dvorak and Mimi Dvorak who called me yesterday. Mimi insisted. So I'm in the car. I knew you were at elevation.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'm in the car driving back from a meeting. And, you know, this one thing I don't want to see the day before a show day is JCD real cell phone pop up on my dashboard. So I can only think a couple things. I'm like, he's in the hospital. He's in the hospital. This is it. Oh, no. He's in a car wreck. No, I thought hospital. Somebody shot him.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Now I'm going to have to deal with that. I'm like, what are we going to do now? And then it's you and Mimi on the speaker phone. Hey! Are you wet yet? And Mimi, she is a max velocity's storm chaser groupie of epic proportion. Yeah, it's really bad near you. You don't go to the east.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You're going to drown us. There's storm chasers in Fredericksburg. Yeah. Okay. She really loves that stuff. She is a weather junkie. Yeah. Yeah, so I had to make the call.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And you were telling her like, he's an elevation. There's no problem. She wouldn't believe it. I'm just putting that out there so other people don't ever, you know, start to think that, oh, my. Well, it usually takes a couple days and then you get people from Holland. Are you okay? You know, because you can see how the news kind of trickles through.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You need to have some dead people and, you know, some horrible pictures and a single baby shoe floating by. Then people like, oh, wait a minute, isn't that where Adam lives? And I love it's appreciated. I like that people care and they want to check in on me. But yeah, we're pretty safe here. Although there was a tornado just like 30 minutes. minutes down the road. That doesn't happen very often. Certainly not in the hill country. Onward. Yes, onward with the top news item. I don't care what you say. Breaking at this hour.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Right now, officials can't pinpoint the exact source or sources of this outbreak. It's a food or waterborne disease caused by a parasite, cyclospora. In pinpointing precisely where it's coming from is a challenge. Michigan is bearing the brunt with more than 2,600 reported cases, including 44 that have landed people in the hospital. Joining us to explain what all this means and how to stay healthy is Dr. Omer Awan, he's at the University of Maryland School of Medicine. Dr. Awan, thank you so much for being here. To start off with, if I were to ingest this parasite, how do I know that I've got it. What are the symptoms people should look out for? Well, the
Starting point is 00:08:31 typical symptoms, William, are things like nausea, fatigue, bloating, and of course, explosive watery diarrhea. And that's the symptom that's been getting a lot of attention, because this is really different, because most stomach bugs, usually the watery diarrhea lasts about two or
Starting point is 00:08:47 three days. With the cases of cyclosporiasis, the diarrhea can last weeks, if not months. And that's what makes this so problematic. This is what's kind of crazy. This month's business, and apparently you can get it a week before the symptoms appear. Tonight, 34 states grappling with cyclospora, the parasite that can be found on fresh produce making Americans sick. Michigan zeroing in on lettuce. Its top doc says there is a clear
Starting point is 00:09:17 preliminary signal pointing to the leafy green. Why do you suspect lettuce? We've interviewed about a thousand out of the 3,000 cases we have so far. Let us seems to be an ongoing exposure for those who've been impacted. Federal officials say Michigan is one of four Midwestern states where the cases could be linked. Taco Bell today confirming it removed limited ingredients at select restaurants while authorities continue their broader review, noting public health officials have not confirmed a link to Taco Bell. The Washington Post reports federal and state health officials are investigating the chain, citing two individuals familiar with the probe.
Starting point is 00:09:57 CDC did not comment. Michigan's Dr. Bagdasarian. So there was no location that came up in 100% of cases, but there certainly were restaurants and fast food chains that did come up. Including Taco Bell? You know, I'm not going to comment on those specifics. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 The CDC says it's confirmed 1,645 cases of cyclosporiasis and is aware of 5,100 more. Christina Seraphina says she ate fresh fruits and vegetables hiking last month and got sick for weeks. Just really strong gas and bloating pains. And on top of that, you're not eating. So you're hungry and you're having hunger pains also. I got to tell you, I got boots on the ground from people that I had to redact. I mean, this is unlike members of our producing audience being Patriot Front members, of which one is, by the way. for later.
Starting point is 00:10:55 A lot of people have this, this bug. A friend of Sir Bevanauer, producer for 16 or 17 years. Yes, I had it three nights ago, contracted it. One of the beachside resorts at Myrtle Beach only lasted one night, the next day was pretty much gone.
Starting point is 00:11:13 See, I don't think that he had it. Two of my... No, now if you're going to have it for a month, that sounds more like, you know, one of the, that quick bug, whatever it's cold. Well, here's,
Starting point is 00:11:25 please redact my name of red on air. It's one of our nights. Because if word got back to my wife that I was sharing this, I'd probably be a night experiencing homelessness. My wife, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:11:39 My wife seems to have come down with the explosive diarrhea or as I read in an article, Verocious diarrhea. That's even better. When first, looking it up, she's actually got it pretty bad. And for about a week,
Starting point is 00:11:52 she could barely function away from a toilet. After about a week and a half, she decided to go to the urgent care to see if there's anything they could do. They sent her home with a test sample kit, plastic bowl and other cups. Oh, why? To retrieve said sample.
Starting point is 00:12:06 They should put you in a bed and give you fluids. You think. Intrevenously and then maybe send you home. Asked her to bring the sample back to the lab. She did. A day later was told that she was, she had tested positive. So this test, PCR. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:12:23 But there's also nothing that can be given to you to get rid of it. You just have to fight it out. So what's the point of the test? Exactly. She was told some people can get over it in days. She's now on about three weeks. Fortunately, it's become less explosive. Yeah, I would think so.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So last night. Balls had got to get tired at some point. I woke up at like 1.30 and I felt really bad. And I did not have, just, not to be too graphic. I did not have explosive diarrhea. But it wasn't good. And I'm thinking, oh, man, what am I going to do? This, this is horrible.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I feel miserable. And I actually. Stop tape. What do you mean? Stop tape. Why? No. During the show, you can do it.
Starting point is 00:13:15 If you stop tape, we'll understand. Stop tape. No. And I'll be right back. I was saying. After a. word from. Well, and here's the point. So I'm like, oh man, what can I take? You know, I just feel miserable. And I took two tablespoons of the manuka gold honey, slept like a baby, woke up perfectly
Starting point is 00:13:35 fine. I don't know if it's related, but that's all I could think of. Like, what can I do? Which is the plain honey? Yeah, well, it's the honey with all the stuff in it. The be well honey, the be well honey? Yeah, be well. It has a, because apparently, Cuman or Cucumin, is that Cucumin, is that the molecule of Cuman? Curcumin. Oh, curcumin. Is that different? Is it different from cumin?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah. What is curcumin? It's more like pepper. Oh. Because I think that's in the B-Well honey. They got a lot of, they got a lot of stuff mixed in there. That is supposed to neutralize this bug. But let's just think about this.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Now we're being quacks on the show. Well, I'm not, this is not medical. advice. This is not, we're not advising you on anything medical. But I'm thinking about this. Do you know that that more people die from diarrhea globally than anything else? Yeah, and mostly in India. Yes, it just poop their brains out and then they die. People go to India and they have a something, I don't know if they don't have the right curry or whatever, and the next thing you know, they're dead. It's really bad. I mean, by a, by a long shot, the amount of people globally who die from diarrhea is much more than, certainly more than gunshot wounds.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Well, could this, I'm just throwing it out there because of the nature of this thing, could this possibly be a gain of functioned bio weapon? Oh, come on. Well, that hasn't come up in the conversation yet. No, but it's so, they don't really know how you get it. I know, they keep talking, they blame lettuce for everything. Well, lettuce and talk. There's a lettuce hating component of society.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It doesn't like the salad eaters of California. But there's also some warfare going on amongst the fast food guys because Taco Bell is the one that is in the crosshairs. Tonight, Taco Bell saying they have voluntarily removed some ingredients at select locations as the food-borne parasite cyclospiriasis rapidly spreads across the U.S. The company stating public health officials have not confirmed a link to Taco Bell or any specific ingredients, supplier, restaurant, or retailer. adding they will closely monitor the situation. State health officials say there have been more than 600 new cases of cyclospiriasis in Michigan alone since yesterday. Health officials now pointing to lettuce as a possible source of the outbreak in that state. We're continuing our traceback investigation on multiple produce items, including the lettuce.
Starting point is 00:16:14 The CDC confirming cases in 34 states. Today, warning that cases in Michigan, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Ohio seem to have a similar sores. The parasites spread through contaminated food or water can cause severe digestive issues, including diarrhea. Symptoms usually begin about one week after becoming infected. It was really bad. There were moments where I was literally just camped out in the bathroom. And like, I don't care. I'm just going to lay on this floor. David, the CDC is telling doctors to stay alert. Health officials say thoroughly washing your fruits and vegetables, even if they're labeled pre-washed, is an important step in preventing illness. David. Good advice.
Starting point is 00:16:53 sounds awful. Stephanie Ramos tonight. Thanks, Steph. Good advice. Sounds awful. Thanks a lot, Steph. Let's get my, I have an NPD clip about the same thing. You should probably play it. Okay. Let me see. It's under cytosytosis. The FDA is working to identify the source of a large multi-state outbreak of a food-borne illness. It's now investigating multiple produce items.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Health officials say more than 1,600 confirmed cases of cyclosporiasis have been reported across 34 states since May, there have been no deaths reported from the outbreak, but more than 140 people have been hospitalized. The CDC says more than 5,000 additional suspected cases are still under investigation. Symptoms usually start two days to two weeks after infection. Primary symptom is diarrhea. Other symptoms can include loss of appetite, cramping, and fatigue. The CDC is urging doctors to specifically test patients with prolonged gastrointestinal illness. officials say the outbreak may involve multiple clusters with evidence pointing to a common source in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Investigators have not identified a specific
Starting point is 00:18:04 contaminated food, although lettuce and salad greens are the main suspects. How about this? What if it's contaminated GLP 1? Everybody's on that stuff. Gastro? But they had this interesting idea. Here's a question that I have. Since they have this test that somebody, you know, I went in and I had to take the test. Why don't they just grab a bunch of food and start testing it? Well, this is why I'm bringing it up.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Because they're not, it doesn't seem like anyone is coming up with any normal solutions. With 5,000 cases you think you'd be able to, when you do tracing, you say, where'd you go where'd you eat, where'd you go, where'd you eat here, where'd you eat here there? But then there's this very odd, oh, it doesn't kick in until after a week. Since when is that a thing? I'm telling you something else is going on here. I like my gain of function angle, but I'm, I think I'm looking more at, at, it's got, GLP1.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I mean, just one batch being contaminated or, you know, something. Could be anything. It seems to me that they should have, normally they would have isolated the cause by now. Yeah, whenever it's, what is the other foodborne illness? They always trace it back to some tomato at some supermarket. Or Listeria. Listeria, yeah. Listeria, they got no problem.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Boom, there it is. But this one, oh, we don't know. Lettuce, maybe. Yeah, maybe lettuce. be Taco Bell. Not even close. You know, it's, you know, I'm looking at lettuce in the supermarket. Like, yeah, I think I'll just have my salad with cucumber.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't want any lettuce right now. We don't frequent Taco Bell. But I just, something is wrong with this. The Bell's got overpriced. Something is wrong with this story. Well, we're checking in on disease. Might as well get a little Ebola update. What's your reaction when you hear the CDC warning about how quickly this
Starting point is 00:20:18 spreading. The pace of the spread, Diane, is really concerning here. The trajectory shows exceptional rapid growth. Right now, this Ebola outbreak is already half the size of the outbreak that we saw in 2018. That was the second largest outbreak recorded in history, and that took two years to combat. Right now, we're only two months into this current outbreak. And as James was stating, this is the Bundy-Bujo strain. This strain does not have a targeted vaccine or a targeted therapy. But the main concern here is in contact tracing. The World Health Organization is estimating that these estimates are likely an underestimate as tens of thousands of people still need to be traced back. Do people in the U.S. or other countries need to be worried about this?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Our concern here and our risk, or excuse me, our risk here in the United States is relatively low. Wow. Low. I got it. I did get a text message from Homeland Security because, you know, well, because we're global entry members. And, you know, if you, you, you. You've traveled to Uganda.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You better like come and see us. Immediately. Oh, so on the way back, traveling back from, you know, in the new security state, that is the European. Yeah, a little, a little, a minor travel story. So when you leave Schiphol Airport, first you check in, you show your passport, then you go to the exit, the customs and border patrol exit for the Netherlands. because we don't have that in America, but in the EU, when you leave, they check you. And it's all automated.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Your picture is already in their system. So you all wait in little lines, and then you get up to the booth, and the little doors open, and then you get in the booth, and then the doors close, and then you have to put your passport into the, on the little shelf,
Starting point is 00:22:09 and it eats your passport, and then it says, Holtzelt! And then camera goes up and down, get you right in the eye, the lights go on. And then a clock, like a spinning wheel of death appears like, please wait, please wait.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And so Tino went through, no problem. I go in there. And the guy comes over. He says, do it again. Okay, put it in. And red lights flashing. And they're over there looking at some terminal. They come in.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They say, well, you have to go over to that line. You know, the line with a thousand people. You got to go through that line. for a manual exit check because we have two traveler profiles of you. So what does that mean? Well, we just got new software. I'm like, uh-huh. So he just got new software.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And there's two traveler profile. I don't even know what that means, but there's two traveler profiles. And we don't know, the system doesn't know which one to choose. So you got to go talk to those guys. So I go in that line. It takes about 15 extra minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:16 and I say, oh, here's my passport. And I said, they sent me over from the machine because I have two traveler profiles. And this guy says, no, I only see one. You're good to go. It's like, what is that? It's like, yeah, we got a new software. And, you know, this is troubling. It's already breaking down.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Unbelievable. But something interesting did happen. This is one of these so-called silent airports. So the whole thing is automated when you... What is that mean? Well, I'm going to tell you. So they don't have... They have signs and lights and they don't have, you know, like speakers everywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:04 You know, going... Please follow the Reds footsteps. Move to the left. Go over there. Wait, stop. Slave, shut up. It's not your turn. Wait.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Go, go. Carousal, sex. So they don't have that. instead they have signage. Signage that yells at you. Well, and here's the interesting part. So you go through the security line and then there's a stop point. And they have these carousels.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And then the carousels go round and round. And then one is free and it's like a little slot. And you cozy up to the open slot and the carousel. And a bin pops out underneath. You pull that out, put it on top, put your bag on. And then you go towards the body scanner. And so this sign is saying, wait, wait. It's just, it's silence, wait.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And then it'll go arrow and then tell you what number to go to. You know, we're like sheep. And I'm in this line. I keep hearing something. What am I hearing? And I thought my glasses were hitting my hearing aids. And then as I get closer to this sign, I hear it. It says, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Number six, go now, wait. stop. It was coming through my hearing aids. So they have this LE Bluetooth, low energy Bluetooth, that is breaking into my hearing aids to tell me where to go. And apparently it works on AirPods and all kinds of other Bluetooth devices. It's for blind people. Yeah. Well, blind people with hearing aids, I guess. It was pretty interesting. I didn't know you could just break into someone's LE Bluetooth, low energy.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And then just talk to him. Yeah, it's overriding. Yeah, you can do that with RF. Hmm. Well, that, that, so you can do that to air pods as well? I think so. Cool. It's just like a broad base, broad spectrum signal.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It's a real, blows everything, blows everything away. Okay. Well, this is cool. So it's just the same as the jammer would do it. Right. But it's a really interesting experience because, you know, someone's talking in your head. You're like, what is going on? What the what?
Starting point is 00:26:15 So it would be cool. just walk, you know, drive down the street, have a little antenna sticking out of the car, and just go, you know, it's got, hey, you. Hey, yeah, I'm talking to yo. Turn around. And if they have the ear, the earbuds in. I want one of these systems. You see a big linear amp in the trunk. Yeah, heater. You can just blow through everything. I want one of these. This, that's a cool little device to have. Hey, haughty, what's you doing? Watch out for the purp. There was a period during the CB radio fad, which I'd call it what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Back in the day. And these guys would have these, and it was notorious. These guys would have these linear amps. Yeah, the heaters. We called them heaters. And they would blow. And so I was driving past one once with just listening to FM radio. And it went right into my radio.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, yeah. Of course. Of course. Right away. Yeah, so you could easily do what you're describing. Well, if anyone knows. It'd be annoying and you'd probably get, it's illegal, but you know, it'd be fun. I'm sure I can, I'm sure I can get something off of Timo.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah, you probably could. No doubt this. I just bought a couple of, okay, so they got this new technology. I don't know what it's called. It's got some stupid name. I should bring these. I got to bring these into talk about them. I bought two, they're two, they're a type of, a new technology.
Starting point is 00:27:41 type of walkie-talkie that are long range. And Bao-Feng makes them. Uh-huh. Oh, the 10-water? The illegal 10-water? Is that the one? Maybe. Yeah. Could be. I don't know. But you get two of them and you can get four and you get six of them on Timbu.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And it's like, they're like 12 bucks for two of them. It looks like it. Wow. How is that? I'll bet you that all broadcast to any Bluetooth. as long as you say. I'm sure it's really, really well-tuned. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Well, it's Bao Feng, so it's not like junk. Those guys are the best. I mean, I can't. Whatever it is. But it's so cheap. It's like, oh, we can, oh, yeah, we'll be, we'll be competing with these guys sometime soon. No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I carry a Bao-fang in my luggage all the time, just wherever I go. And the battery, I haven't recharged it in five years. Same thing. I have a bow-fing that I drag around. and it just never, the batteries never die. How does that work? What kind of magic do these guys have? You just turn it on, oh, full bars.
Starting point is 00:28:50 There's the battery, chup, chup, we're good to go. It's crazy. That's no idea. Crazy. Hey, so, yesterday I was driving around. I'm like, why are all the flags at half staff? I couldn't figure it out. Like, why are the flags at Hags to Halfstaff?
Starting point is 00:29:08 It's because of Lindsay Graham. Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know that there was a general order for half staff or half mass. I don't know there was an order. I think people were just doing it. Well, we have some new information about Lady G's untimely death. And there's a little update here. Tonight, new video showing more than a dozen FBI agents fanning out across the Washington home of the late Senator Lindsey Graham. The FBI shutting down the street as investigators spent several hours on scene, taking photos and searching. the property. Two law enforcement
Starting point is 00:29:42 sources, familiar with the scene, tell NBC News their work is out of an abundance of caution. So far, no evidence has emerged to suggest foul play. A preliminary medical examiner's report revealed Graham suffered from a tear in the main artery of his heart, but they are still
Starting point is 00:29:59 waiting on a toxicology test before declaring a cause of death. Wow. That isn't very typical, I don't think. Send the feds in, the FBI, to go check it out. Oh, there was a bunch of No, there was, the part you missed was there was a bunch of insistence on the part of various legislators and others at the autopsy him. Oh, you know, he just came back from Ukraine. Something suspicious could have happened.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Oh, he was just talking about the Chinese. Something suspicious could have happened. Oh, he hates the Russians. Something suspicious could happen. So they got all bent out. Everyone got, you know, it's amazing. adult persons of above average intelligence will text my wife, hey, what does Adam know about Lindsey Graham?
Starting point is 00:30:51 It's really too coincidental that he just came back from Ukraine. And of course, you know, there's a story that he was visiting a drone plant in Ukraine and the Russians took it out. And all I can say is, why would you cover that up? Why would that have to be kept secret? I mean, and especially the news. It's a great, it's a better story than aortic rupture. Hey, Lindsay Graham was blown up in a drone.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Have we lost the ability to think a little more simplistically and just, okay? Do you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah, Occam's Razor's dead. Yeah, Occam's Razor is indeed dead. And there's also, I mean, that's a good one. The world isn't quite as complicated as people think it is. At some point, the world just became like,
Starting point is 00:31:47 oh, everything's just crazy. You know, there's elites everywhere. We're just killing everybody. There's just scheming. There's a degree of truth to some of it. But if you just think logically, why? Why would anyone do? It's like the Charlie Kirk thing.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's the same thing. thing. Well, so-and-so killed him. The Deep State killed him. Israel killed him. You know, J.D. Vans killed him. Everyone killed everybody. I'm like, well, why didn't they just kill him? Why did they have to go through this elaborate ruse and then get a Patsy and his family to cooperate? It's like, at what point is this, at what point is this, does this just not make any sense? Right away. It doesn't make any sense. You know, it's just like, come on. It's actually funny.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Where's my, I had a couple of clips about this. You know, J.D. Vance was on Rogan. Yeah, I saw a clip of it. Yeah, what clip did you see? I don't know. It wasn't that interesting. I agree. It wasn't super interesting. Here it is. Let me see. Where is Vance? And those two guys, I don't know, I didn't see enough of it.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I only saw clips. I didn't see that actually watch the show. I wonder if those, they don't seem like they have personalities that would jive. Who, Joe and J.D. Vance? Yeah. This is very interesting. Why can't I find this? Hmm. Well, at a certain point, now I'm kind of mad about this. I had these two J.D. Vance clips all specta. Yeah. And this sucks. But he was talking about propaganda and, you know, he's kind of jumping on the Israel is doing stuff bandwagon. It was kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Let's see. What is this? Libya basically turned into a failed state. You had a refugee crisis. You had people. pouring into Europe, pouring into other parts of Asia, other parts of Africa. That's about Libya. Here he is. This is the one. I don't even mind an effort to try to influence, you know, foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel does it. Other countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually when Americans allow, meaning American leadership, allows that influence to affect their judgment and to affect what they are at advocating for. That's what really bothers me. People are always going to try to influence the United
Starting point is 00:34:41 States of America, whether they're allies of ours or whether they're enemies of ours. But again, when I open up the pages of Time magazine and I see that there's a literal foreign influence campaign being funded to tank the very deal that I was pursuing. And oh, by the way, many of the people who were receiving that money were actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways. You know, my response to that is, well, go to hell. I'm going to do what I have to do the American people. I represent Americans first. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:10 he was referring to some kind of Israeli campaign in that, which I thought was interesting. And this whole preliminary hearing with, you know, for what's the kid's name, Ryan, who said he killed Charlie Kirk. Oh yeah, that guy.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah. It's like, how can that not stop everybody from the exploding microphone nonsense? The defense is not using this. Because it was a shaped charge, man. The defense is not saying, we'd like to show you exhibit A with the Egyptian military aircraft that we're circling around.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And there's none of that. And I think the tide is turning. Well, you're an optimist today. Yeah. Some international travel always kind of screws you up. Something I've observed. Oh, I think the tide is turning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But then, okay. But then again, I get the, what's going on. Good for you. Well, it's so weird because for at least 15 years, you know, I was all in on all this stuff. And it's just all bullshit. All of it. Well, we know. All of it.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah. Well, you got that part, right? I know. But, you know, you were the one always setting me straight. And now I'm like, you know, ladies and gentlemen, most of this stuff is just BS. It doesn't make it quite as... The show is built on a lie. It doesn't make it very exciting, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And that's to our detriment. But if you just want to get spun down a little bit and, you know, and talk some sense, you know, I think we're the place for you now. we've always been to place. Well, let's play a couple of offbeat clips then. You're always like offbeat, screwball. Well, this is not that offbeat. This is the hearing for Todd Blanche.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Oh, yes. Well, there were a couple of... Trying to get his worm his way into the job that he should get. There were a couple of good hearings on the Hill. Well, here's... There was quite a few, actually. The fact, right now Congress is in session. They had a fraud hearing.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Democrats refused to show up to it. Of course. That was worthwhile. Why would you do that? Nick Shirley's there, forget it. We're not coming. So, um, play this.
Starting point is 00:37:44 This is my favorite clip. This would be my favorite clip for the day, actually. Okay. This is Todd Blanche, uh, having to deal with this, with, uh, uh, White House, an idiot from Rhode Island on C-SPAN.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Let me ask about the FBI. How long do you intend to put up with that? Cash Patel character. Are you good with his airplane jaunce? Are you confident he's not drinking on the job? Are you sure none of his travel is a pretext for vacation activities like snorkeling Olympics and visiting girlfriends? Are you sure he knows what he's doing? Do you vouch for him? Are you willing to look at whether he lied to this committee? That's an extraordinarily obnoxious question, Senator. And I have full faith in Director Patel and the work that he's doing every day. Great. You got to own that. You got to own that.
Starting point is 00:38:35 What is this chasing his girlfriend around with the government plane? I didn't hear this one. I didn't hear it either. He's just making it up. I like the guzzling, I like the guzzling beer. The guzzling beer. This guy is just the biggest dick in Congress. And here he continues.
Starting point is 00:38:54 This is as it goes on. He just reads, he reads him to riot. He reads Blanche the Riot Act. And it just wraps with. He doesn't even ask him a question. He just goes off. One last thing, if I may. You have refused to exclude January 6 rioters from your anti-weaponization fund.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You have refused to put in writing that the slush fund is dead. Indeed, you signal to allies that payouts are still on track. You have vacated seditious conspiracy convictions against members of the proud boys and oathkeepers. You hired January 6th rioter Jared Wise, who would urge the mob to keep. kill police officers. You scrubbed press releases about January 6 prosecutions and called the release as partisan propaganda. You denied that Trump encouraged any violence on January 6th. You've cleaned house of every attorney who worked on a case related to Trump, and you've bragged that bringing justice for violent rioters meant that every one of them was either pardoned or had their
Starting point is 00:39:57 sentence commuted. I hope that our colleagues who are concerned about what happened. to January 6, take that into account. Thank you. Would you like to respond? I would. Almost everything the Senator just said, and he's protected, he's allowed to lie, but almost everything he just said was absolutely false. Starting with the fact that I have never, I have never said that any sort of violence against law enforcement is appropriate. I have never said that publicly. I have never said that in his speech, and I certainly do not believe it. I did not hire the person referenced. And that is, again, something that just happens not to be true.
Starting point is 00:40:36 When I talk about what happened with the convicted January 6th defendants, I talk about what President Trump did. He adds the absolute right to pardon anybody for any reason he sees fit. And every one of them got pardoned or commuted. I am not celebrating that. It is a fact. And the fact that my department had to take action in response to those pardons by dismissing some cases is exactly what I have to do under the law.
Starting point is 00:41:02 the law and it's what I did. So the narrative that the senator just suggested and put on me as something I believe is absolutely not true. Outrage, I tell you. Blanche did screw up and the news media pounced on this. Oh, ha ha!
Starting point is 00:41:21 We got you now, Blanchie. I met him. The moment tonight with maybe the most staying power at today's confirmation hearing for Todd Blanche coming during friendly questioning about his relationship with the president. I'm his lawyer. Was his lawyer. Whoops. And now I'm the deputy. Oh no. Oh no. He said the quiet part out loud. President. I'm his lawyer. Was his lawyer. And now I'm the deputy attorney general.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And a apparent slip of the tongue since Blanche is no longer the president's personal lawyer, likely adding to Democrats' concerns that Blanche, if confirmed as attorney general, would do President Trump's bidding to go after political rivals. Who you are as someone willing to sacrifice everything. he once believed in for that title. Blanche spent some 15 years at the DOJ before moving to private practice, representing then candidate Trump in his 24 hush money trial in New York, now as acting AG touting progress. We have the lowest murder rate since 1900. But facing pointed questions about why he signed off on a controversial settlement after President Trump sued the IRS, the DOJ, initially agreeing to an extraordinary $1.8 billion, so-called anti-weaponization fund.
Starting point is 00:42:36 The settlement fund's just not moving forward. Since scuttled in the face of intense opposition, including from Republicans, like Senator John Cornyn, who remains undecided. I'm not going to make a decision until I have to. So just a reminder from your no agenda show, we've done this before. This is nothing new with presidents putting their personal attorney or legal confidant as at top of the DOJ. John Kennedy put his brother.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That's right. He had Robert. George Washington had Edmund Randolph, his private attorney. Harding had Harry Doherty, his personal attorney and campaign manager. Nixon had John Mitchell, his own law firm partner. Reagan had William French Smith and Edward Meese, both personal attorney and legal advisor. And George W. Bush had Alberto Gonzalez. This is nothing new. No, it's not only new, but John Yu, that guy at Berkeley professor of law,
Starting point is 00:43:36 who's also the guy who penned the torture note, who's quite good as an analyst. He shows up on Fox quite a bit. He says it's common and it should be expected. Yeah. But the news media does not do what I just did. It's so easy. It's so easy.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Anyway, there was another hearing. There was some good hearings. Federal Reserve Chairman Warsh, Warsh, was interrogated by Al Green. Now, Al Green, this is so good. So Al Green is a moron. Who is going to be out next year, you know, after November, because he lost his primary. Yeah, he is. He is, well, but he starts off, you know, he tries to pull the old churchy card.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Chair recognizes the gentleman from Houston, Texas. Mr. Green, who is a ranking member of our subcommittee on oversight and investigations. Mr. Green. Over here, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the ranking member as well. And I welcome you to the committee, Mr. Chairman, but I would also say to you that I will pray for you.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Okay. Insincere. And I'll pray for you because many of the questions that have been predicated. today, hinge upon a belief that you will sanction the president's desires. It is thought among the general public that you're in the position you're in because the president could not have the influence that he wanted to have with the prior chair, and he believes he can have it with you. So I hope that you will stand firm and honor your commitments that you're making. though some of them are not firm commitments as I understood your language.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So this whole hearing was all about will you stand up to him? Will you do what is right for the banks? Will you do what is right for everybody except the American people and stand up to the president when he criticizes you? And man, I'm so happy that Al Green will no longer be representing any part of Texas. This guy truly is an idiot. And I think they gave these questions. to him to make him look even stupider.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You indicated that you're interested in war. I appreciate this. Huh? But I believe you should also be interested in speculative bubbles. Speculative bubbles. So they gave him the bubbles questions. My assumption is that you are. Are you interested in bubbles, speculative bubbles?
Starting point is 00:46:18 I love speculative bubbles. I like me some bubbles. You like your bubbles. I like bubbles. I like bubbles. The chairman. We've got a wide line. we spend a lot of time thinking about what's happening.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I'm going to take that as a yes. Now, given this old, like, yes or no question, I'll take that as a yes. This is so boring and tedious, you people. You're interested in speculative bubbles. Let's just talk about a bubble that occurred. Now, what kind of bubble occurred? What kind of bubble could you think of that they gave to Al Green, not the sharpest crayon in Le Box?
Starting point is 00:46:52 What kind of bubble? Well, the only bubble out there right now is the AI bubble, so it would have to be that. No, no, no. President Trump's meme coin, dollar sign Trump. Meme coin, dollar sign Trump. His meme coin profited an average of $1.74 million per day over his first year. Can't believe I miss that boat. $1.74 million per day.
Starting point is 00:47:21 This amounted to approximately $636 million in total royalties and license. fees generated at its launch. While this was happening during that same period of time, nearly one million investors lost a combined $3.8 billion. This is because that meme coin lost value, dropped precipitously in value. There was a bubble, by the way, it is nothing. anybody who's listening to me. If you've invested in a meme coin, you've invested in nothing. Zero.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Zero. Okay. So. Hold on a second. Does he know that the chairman of the federal reserve is monetary policy? He's got nothing to do with meme coins? But he's going to come back to, he's using that. This is why it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:48:20 He's using that term speculative bubble to show that, Whenever the president wants something, it only behooves the president personally and screws everybody else out of money. And then here comes the crux. This is really one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time. I think that we should concern ourselves with these speculative bubbles. And whether you like it or not, you have to concern yourself with it because when you lower interest rates, you lower the rates such that there's more capital available for people to use for speculative reasons. Okay, let's just hold here for a second.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So this numnut is going to tell us that we should have higher interest rates because otherwise we'll get speculative bubbles. There's no other benefit that you can think of of lower interest rates other than it's going to benefit people to create speculative bubbles, even though, as you pointed out, the AI bubble is done just to. fine with interest rates at 5%. So you have to be concerned about it, whether you want to or not, because you don't want to see a speculative bubble.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Can I have your assurance that you will be concerned about these speculative, speculative bubbles, Mr. Chairman? So, Congressman, we want a resilient, strong, safe financial system. And we are looking at financial markets and we're looking at the real economy to make sure we deliver on what we can. some of these other subjects are really more in your purview and responsibility. They're in my purview, excuse me for interrupting, but I have to. They're in my purview, but only because I choose to have them in my purview,
Starting point is 00:50:01 and I make an issue of them. I have to vote on them. But they're in your purview, too, because you decide whether the race go up or down. If you lower them, then people can engage in these speculative bubbles, such as the Trump meme coin, and they can lose a lot of money. Oh, brother. You imagine having to sit through that? I mean, that represents people.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Well, this is, it reminds me of the other, the other character that's in Congress who thinks the islands can flip over. Oh, the Maldives. The Maldives will tip over from climate change. Yeah. No, from population. Oh, population. Too many people on one side of the island. And then there was this, I think this was Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Warren. Hank Johnson is that guy. So, it's all just about will you be independent? Do you work for Donald Trump? Yes or no. Who is this? Sounds like Heromo. No, it's not Herono. If I'm permitted to say, we're an independent central bank, we're honored to be independent. Our independence came from you.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Okay. That's enough. Thank you. That's enough. Don't answer the questions with truth. Yeah. It was the Federal Reserve Bill of 19. 1313. What do you take if the president or others in the administration target you or your fellow governors because he doesn't like how many of them are voting on interest rate policy? Yeah, she's Spanish. She's from Costa Rica?
Starting point is 00:51:36 Where is she from? I don't know her. It's not in my notes for some reason. I haven't not heard that voice before. No. It's not my intuition to engage in hypotheticals, but I'll tell you, this. The Supreme Court said that the Supreme Court said that the Federal
Starting point is 00:51:55 Reserve and the conduct of monetary policy is independent. To the extent there were questions about it, the court's answer of those questions. So what would you do? I would continue to do my job. If the President publicly pressures you to pursue a
Starting point is 00:52:11 different course than the one you believe is in the economic that you believe the economic data supports, will you follow the president's wishes or follow the data? My commitment to you is to follow the law and follow the data, follow our very best judgment. If you decide this is the way to go, this is where the data shays, and he publicly criticizes you and tells you how disappointed he's in you and all of that.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Follow that. If he shames you in public, will you still do your job? What the data tells you to do. I will, Congressman. You ready for that? I'm ready to follow the law and I'm ready for the Fed to deliver on the expansive remit that you gave us. It's just like, this is so embarrassing. It's just embarrassing that these people are in Congress even.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Well, luckily the left side of the party is going to wipe them all out shortly. That would be good. Yeah. I mean the DSAers? Yeah. Warren was in fine form too. she kept yammering about some secret meeting. Did you know about the secret meeting?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Do you know about a secret meeting? What's she talking about? Can you just answer the question about the vice chair and her secret meeting? Sure. I'm happy to, to the extent I can. I had some secret meeting about something where something got leaked or... How would you know about it if it was the secret? That's what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Share it with you. The vice chair has been an excellent colleague in my first. seven weeks. I'm aware of the letter you sent to the Inspector General out of an enormous respect for him. His investigation, what he chooses to do with that, I'm going to leave to him to do without trying to
Starting point is 00:53:59 micromanage that. And I'd be interested in the judgments that he comes to. So you will support his investigation. Have you made your own investigation? Did you ask her if she spoke at a secret meeting during the blackout period? I agree with the suggestion.
Starting point is 00:54:16 This is Elizabeth Warren. tool. She's just annoying. Then we had the nominee for the director of national intelligence, Jay Clayton, who I believe is highly qualified. He's been in the spook business for I think 20 plus years. And he has been nominated to step in once the bull in the china shop is done, Bill Pulte. Yeah. And, you know, so, and again, it's just these questions. Like, it was so embarrassing that this is what our government is doing on a day-to-day basis.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I believe he had the most electoral votes. So he won the election. He followed our process, had the most of electoral votes, was declared the winner. Who won the 2020 election? You know, I'm not, I'm not going to do this with you. Who won the 20? I've answered the question. We can keep doing this. We've tried umpting different ways to give to the ability to just acknowledge that Joe Biden was the president. It was fairly in general. I've acknowledged,
Starting point is 00:55:23 Senator, that Joe Biden was the president. As you see, he would not answer, at least not directly. And the Georgia Democrat John Asaf, who you saw a bit of there, would not leave. No, they want him to say, and this is a director of national intelligence. I don't see what it has to do with who won the election, but they want him specifically. They want him specifically to say, Biden won the election. And he says, well, you know, he got the most electoral votes. I'm at that. You refuse to answer a basic question about who won a presidential election, but you asked to lead America's intelligence community. What does that have to do with anything?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Isn't it humiliating to be unable to answer this question? It's humiliating to sit there and have to listen to these questions. to have to indulge the president's delusions. We know, you know, everybody in this room knows the truthful answer to that question. Why can you not give it? I think I gave you the answer. So then they bring on Senator Mark Kelly. This will wrap it up.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Senator, Mark Kelly joins me now. Senator, it's good to see you. You heard probably some of the Republicans in the last session. And a lot of them think, and a lot of people watching might think, this is Democrats want to get the Republican, you know, get the Trump people to say this. But you went on to make a more important point, I think, which is if he won't say a simple fact that Joe Biden won the election, will he stand up to the president when the president needs to hear tough intelligence? Or when there's a debate or dispute with the president about key facts in maybe a sensitive national security situation. Did Jay Clayton give you confidence today that he will be that man if he's to confirm to this job? No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And it was, John, it was rather disappointing. I mean, the entire hearing. I didn't hear anything that gives me any kind of reassurance that this guy is going to do the job, the way the American people deserve. This is a critical position. And the American people's safety is on the line here. He's going to direct 18 intelligence agencies. And what we're trying to get at here is if he can't in that room, I mean, the president's down the street. at Pennsylvania Avenue. I mean, he's not looking right at him. What is he going to do when he's
Starting point is 00:57:44 sitting in the Oval Office or the Situation Room? And the President disagrees with him. But he has studied the intelligence. And this is a critical national security issue and the safety of the American people are at risk. Is he going to tell the President that he's wrong? And I don't see any evidence that he would do that. So I was incredibly disappointed today. Just so disappointing. And then the big controversy is the search for the for the for the leaker about Air Force One and I think you and I might disagree on on some of these issues with journalists this is this is a setup of it exclusive scene and reporting tonight on the investigation
Starting point is 00:58:29 into leaks about security shortcomings of the new Air Force One last week you'll remember the president flew the old plane instead of the new one when he left the NATO summit the White House claims it was so that U.S. service members could tour the new one. The New York Times said it was because the Qatari-gifted plane lacked key defense systems, and the president was incensed by that reporting. Now we've learned some government officials have been asked to turn over their phones at the White House as part of the leak probe.
Starting point is 00:58:56 CNN's Evan Perez joins us now with more. Evan, what more have you learned about this White House probe? Yeah, this was an extraordinary scene of the White House last Friday, where Cash Patel, the FBI director, and Susie Wiles, the chief of staff, essentially helped orchestrate what was hours-long numbers of people from the White House, people who may have known about the President's trip brought in. Their devices were taken from them in some cases, and they were being questioned by FBI agents because of this leak hunt.
Starting point is 00:59:25 The FBI, of course, is trying to figure out who in the government could have possibly leaked this information to the media. And the President, as you pointed out, John, is very, very much obsessed with this. And that, again, took place at the White House. We have a statement from the White House about this unusual scene. They said leaks that jeopardize the safety of the president, his staff, and a traveling press pool are dangerous and a threat to national security. The White House takes these leaks seriously and we do everything legally to ensure the individual or individuals are caught. And it does not happen again.
Starting point is 01:00:00 That's, of course, from the White House this evening. So, you know, I've been thinking about this. and the not disclosing your sources. I don't think that is actually protected under the First Amendment. The First Amendment gives the press the freedom to print whatever they want. It doesn't give them the freedom to not, you know, not do their civic duty for national security, et cetera. I think it was actually, there was some Supreme Court cases that overruled this. and you know
Starting point is 01:00:36 I don't know if I don't think it's protected under the First Amendment and you disagree? No it probably isn't. Yeah. Okay. I never thought it was. It's just a gentleman's agreement.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Look, you're going to tell me something. I'm going to protect you. Right. Can't make me talk. There was the Bandsberg. What's protected is you can't testify against yourself. Right. Bandsberg versus Hayes in 1972,
Starting point is 01:01:03 to five to four Supreme Court decision where the, this was the court consolidated three different cases of reporters who had investigated drug synthesis and the Black Panther Party. When called before grand juries, the reporters refused to name their anonymous sources, arguing that doing so would dry up their news gathering pipelines and destroy, here it comes, press freedom, which is not the text, it's freedom of the press. And the court ruled the public's interest in prosecuting and deterring crime via the grand jury system outweighs the incidental burden place on the press. But the press just, they just keep on going about free press, man, it's free, free press. Joining us now to discuss this is Will Creeley. He's the legal director for fire.org, the foundation for individual rights and expression.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Will, thank you for joining NewsHour. It's an honor. Thank you for having me. What does the law say about what protections journalists have in this case? Well, the law has been clear for a long time that somebody else's illegal conduct does not remove speech about a matter of public concern, like the president's new jet from First Amendment protection. There's no federal shield law, but the heart of the First Amendment does indeed protect this kind of activity. What we're seeing here should be a last resort. Subpeaning reporters is a shot of across the bow, designed to get people to stop asking questions about subjects the administration
Starting point is 01:02:33 would rather not talk about. And it's chilling. In this case, the subpoenas were issued to these five New York Times reporters and some were served at their homes. Is that unusual? And why do you think it was done in that way, in your opinion? It is unusual. And it's theatrical. It's designed to send a very clear message. Stop asking questions. Sit down and shut up. I'm awfully tired of federal law enforcement agents showing up on people's doorsteps about protected speech. And unfortunately, this is just the latest in a pattern. This administration
Starting point is 01:03:05 has evinced a real hostility to press that should concern Americans, no matter their politics. It's designed to get people to sit down and be quiet. Yeah, I wonder if we still have that clip. What was the guy's name? Rosen's a guy who got busted. Rosen, that's right.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And they throw him in jail, right? Yeah. Let me see. Obama was the worst for this. and they never bring it up. No, no, it's all. Trump invented it. Was it? Give me a break.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Was it Jay Rosen? No. No, it's not Jay Rose. He's the professor. Jay Rosen. Who was it? Who was? Which Rosen?
Starting point is 01:03:44 Let me see. Jail. Maybe I can find it that way. No. Obama. I can't seem to. That was, it was quite a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I don't know if we even have those clips from back in the day. I don't know if the, the archive goes back far enough. It's not going to be easy to find. Yeah. But yeah, Obama was doing it. But so is, you know, everybody's bitches and moans about the press. The press bitches and moans about the press.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That's who bitches and moans. Yeah, I got one more clip here. You mentioned this, but this is not the first time that the Trump administration has tried to subpoena or question journalists about stories that are critical of the administration or the president. Is this a pattern that you're seeing? How would you describe this kind of behavior? Again, the president is in court and his administration is in court against the Washington Post,
Starting point is 01:04:33 the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal. Just last week, my colleagues were in Iowa State Court defending a pollster and Seltzer against charges filed by the president alleging that her poll constituted consumer fraud. It's beyond the pale. It is a direct attack on the First Amendment's protection of our free press. In the 250th anniversary of our country, we should demand better. How does this administration compare to previous administrations? I mean, other presidents and other administrations have asked reporters to reveal their sources,
Starting point is 01:05:06 but how does this moment compare to those? That's right. Other presidents have done it, but this is not something we should get used to. Just because other presidents have done it, and they have of both parties, isn't a grounds for justification. We shouldn't normalize this behavior. We should ask for the freest press we can demand. That's what we deserve under the First Amendment. That's what we are guaranteed beyond deserved. Again, I think that you have to look at this in the larger context of the president's attacks on the press.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Really, almost from day one, attacking the press has been a trademark of his. And the result is a chill on speech. It's a chill on speech. There's been no chill. It's worse than ever. Where's the chill? Hello? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I don't see any chill. No. I see people moaning and groaning more than ever. Yeah. Anti-Trump. Trump's fault. So the president had kind of a very interesting, uh, interesting change of heart over the Straits of Hormuz. Where first he started to, hey, man, we're going to, we're going to charge everybody. We're going to charge everybody some money.
Starting point is 01:06:18 We're going to charge everybody 20%, which came out of nowhere all of a sudden. Trump, changing his time. tune after oil prices soared and American Gulf allies called to complain. Kings and Amir and all of the people that we all know and we all love. And they said, we'd love to do it a different way. We'd love to invest in the United States with billions and billions of dollars. Can we play that clip in the last show? What's that?
Starting point is 01:06:48 It wasn't that last show clip? No. No, this is a new clip. No. No, I think that happened on the last... No, it has happened after the show on Sunday. When it was 20% that was after the show. Maybe your...
Starting point is 01:07:04 It must have been somebody brought up on Horowitz. That's what I think. But tonight, one thing is clear. The Strait of Hormuz is closed. Iran firing on multiple cargo ships and on American allies in the region. So then the new gambit came in, which is, you don't have to pay a toll, but just invest in us. I'm wondering if you could explain your changing, thinking on the Strait of Hormuz,
Starting point is 01:07:26 applying it 20%. how did you get to the decision you just... Yeah, it was never fair to me that we would be guarding the straight when we basically don't take any... We don't need the oil at all. And it wasn't important for us, but it was important for allies. I was called by different people, different countries, kings and Amirs and all of the people that we all know
Starting point is 01:07:48 and we all love. And they've been, frankly, they've been very strong partners. And they said, we'd love to do it a different way. We'd love to invest in the United States. with billions and billions of dollars. We would like to invest tremendously in the United States, as opposed to charging a fee. And I like that, actually,
Starting point is 01:08:07 because I don't think anybody should be able to charge a fee for the straight or for any other straight relationship in terms of other sections of the world. I don't think anybody should be really in that position. But we were doing it as a reimbursement. The Gulf states are going to invest a tremendous amount of money into the United States
Starting point is 01:08:28 and that was very satisfactory to me. I think it's actually much better. So I was listening to a couple of analysts on CNBC and I was like, what is he doing? This is completely stupid. Why would you even say, oh, you want 20%? Is he just pulling stuff out his butt as usual or is there something behind it?
Starting point is 01:08:49 And then to change it around to, well, you guys, you should be paying 20%, but instead, as long as you invest billions and billions and billions and trillions of dollars in America will protect you, you don't have to do that. But now I'm listening to these analysts, and it seems like the Strait of Hormuz may even just be made redundant at some point. Hormuz now effectively under new management. What's your reaction to this latest U.S. blockade?
Starting point is 01:09:15 And do you think it's going to be enough to, number one, keep barrels flowing? And number two, squeeze the Iranian regime at the same time to try and bring them to the negotiation table or at least bring them to some kind of stability that would allow the U.S. to continue negotiations and find an off-ramp to this conflict. Dan, you hinted at something very important here that, you know, perhaps it's a political tactic during negotiation. By the way, none of the two parties completely abandoned the negotiating table, and that perhaps explain why the markets is not in a panic mode. I mean, you would expect in a period of so-called ceasefire
Starting point is 01:09:55 to continue to see this kind of take-for-tat actions. And as long as the two parties are still talking, and that's something we should remember, I think that gives us some hope that these are more targeted, limited attacks and not really a fully-fledged war, as we saw, let's say, two months ago, for instance.
Starting point is 01:10:13 So there could be a tactic to force both parties to stick to the negotiations, to reach a deal at a certain point. But of course, the markets does not like this kind of uncertainty, And that's why we are seeing these kind of developments overnight in oil prices. But I remain hopeful because I think even under the worst case scenario, some all continue to flow through the Strait of Hormuz. Yes, some of it continued to flow through the state of Hormuz.
Starting point is 01:10:39 But all of these countries, they're all scrambling and they're all building alternative transit routes, which is pipelines and all kinds of other things. But it remains to be seen what is the next chapter for Hormuz. More importantly, while this is happening, something else equally important is happening that as the countries in the Middle East are continuing to look for alternatives to divert away from Hormos. So who knows, maybe by the time the Hormus crisis is resolved, we don't need to rely as much on hormones to get oil and gas and other products out of that straight. Here's one other analyst about it.
Starting point is 01:11:15 For global trade, it does affect the flow of trade and all that, but you do see trade adapt move to other routes. For example, DP World ports has other ports around the world and those operations have increased. So you'll see expansions and other alternatives. For the UA itself, all
Starting point is 01:11:36 focuses on Fujera right now. What doesn't make the headline is enough is that the cost of shipping, insurance will stay up for a while. So businesses will go where there's less friction where there's less costs. So we expect to see more activities
Starting point is 01:11:54 from Fujira's side. So they're just moving into other ports. They're moving it out. I think this whole idea is just to make the whole straight kind of irrelevant. I don't know if it can be done. Well, if you look at the shipping, there are thousands of ships that are around it.
Starting point is 01:12:15 It won't be overnight. No, it won't be overnight, but they've got the pipeline. It's funny enough. I think that was, wasn't that a Clinton thing back in the day? The pipeline taking it up to Turkey and then from Turkey getting it into Europe and, you know, taking it over to the Black Sea and just all these different routes. I think the pipelines is, we're going to have to be doing a pipeline episode again soon.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Well, we're due. Yeah. I think, I think there's something, something is up with this, with this, the whole thing. Well, I mean, there are, there are theses out there that, that said this was the whole. thing was to shut down the straight of her moves. Well, that wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me. Oh, I guess. The only thing I've got
Starting point is 01:12:58 to bring it to complicate matters, here's a clip, the Iranian conflict is now targeting the Houthis. Next, the Treasury Department has announced sanctions against an underground network that has been helping the Iranian regime obtain weapons. This comes as Iran is threatening to use the Houthi terrorist group to expand their attacks
Starting point is 01:13:18 on commercial shipping. And it is Jason Perry has the details. The United States continues to increase its efforts to help secure the Strait of Hormuz. And on Wednesday, the Treasury Department announced another round of sanctions connected to the Iranian regime. The Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control has sanctioned targets involved in an international network helping to get weapons for Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Details of the sanctions include two individuals in Russia and one in Italy, accused of assisting Iran to get weapons. The sanctions also target a company based in Nigeria called Vanguard Tactical Supply Limited, which served as an intermediary in helping Iran get weapons.
Starting point is 01:14:03 The fresh round of sanctions comes after Iran's attacks on vessels in the Hormuz Strait. However, Iran has warned that if U.S. strikes continue, Iran could expand attacks on commercial shipping to the coast of Yemen through its proxy, the Houthi terrorist. group. The Houthis are located near another strategic waterway for global trade, the Bob Al-Mandab in the Red Sea. Petrus Katinis, research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, explains. But to interfere with it, Tehran would have to rely on Houthis, who control much of Yemen's Houthi coastline, and the Houthis have already demonstrated that they can use anti-ship missiles, drones, and other weapons to make commercial navigation dangerous. He said the Houthis,
Starting point is 01:14:49 These don't need to attack every ship. They just have to complete a limited number of successful attacks. And that would cause insurance costs for commercial vessels to skyrocket, causing ships to avoid the Red Sea altogether and take a much longer route around the southern tip of South Africa. And all this energy that we're creating here in the United States, we're getting another data center in, I think, near Austin. And they will be, I think they'll be generating 750 kilowatts of gas-fired energy. And we were talking about the data centers, maybe being utilities and decentralizing the energy, the electricity sources in America.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And I got an email from an old friend of the show who apparently still listens, atomic Rod Adams. No, we haven't heard from him forever. For years. Yeah. And I want to share this because, you know, this is what he does. He was, uh, was he a commander of an atomic submarine? Yeah, he's a, boy, he, now I think he became a nuclear consultant. Nuclear consultant.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Then things were bad for a while. Business was down, particularly during the Biden administration. Uh, you and John mentioned advanced nuclear demonstrations during Sunday show as you, stated four new reactors started operating on or before July 4th. You don't hear much about this anywhere. I was lucky enough to be present for the final two of them. Deployable energy on June 30th and Alo Atomics, very early, 1220 a.m. and July 4th. It was cool to be boots on the ground as an observer for these historic events.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I also witnessed Valar Atomics, producing the first electricity from an advanced reactor. Those success stories are likely to be joined by two to four more new reactors by the end of the summer, The reactor pilot program, which helped the speed reviews, approvals, and facility construction includes 11 projects and is designed to continue to provide acceleration even after reaching the interim goal of having three start by July 4. There's a tremendous amount of energy and excitement in the nuclear industry, stimulated by a collection of four executive orders, all signed on May 23rd, 2025. John mentioned that California isn't likely to see any new nuclear plant construction. He's probably right. But he might be interested in learning that many of the advanced nuclear companies are headquartered in California. So he says California's got a couple of them in Torrance and El Segundo,
Starting point is 01:17:31 Oakland's, Santa Clara, Berkeley. Hey, Berkeley, California deep fishing and Berkeley right around the corner. In Texas, there's a whole bunch of them. Well, this is good. This is what we need. Yeah, I agree. I think it's cool. It's good that we're doing that.
Starting point is 01:17:48 We couldn't get any of that stuff done forever. No, because there's one or two mishaps. Now, I would say the most interesting legislation to pass, which still doesn't mean that we're going to get anywhere with it, is the, what is it, the Protect the Sunshine Act? You hear about this? No. Yeah, this is it.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It's a debate that has consumed a lot of time, literally. But yesterday, Congress took its biggest step yet toward ending the twice yearly changing of the clocks. The House passed the sunshine protection. Say what? Yeah, yeah, this was overplayed on Fox and every place in between. This is every year or every couple of years we get this story. It's like a rerun of old news.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Well, they're trying. They're trying something. They're not, they're getting. This is not Fox, as an aside. This is PBS. Act, which would make daylight saving time permanent nationwide. The bipartisan bill now heads to the U.S. Senate, where a similar effort stalled several years ago. For more, on the push to stop changing the clocks, we are joined now by Scott Yates, founder of the Lock the Clock Alliance.
Starting point is 01:19:03 It's always good to see you. So you've been pushing for this for years. We've seen momentum before. It's not become law. Why might this time be different? But we've never seen it past the House before. I mean, it's never gotten the floor for. even to be able to have a vote. So this is just a huge step forward. And I think it shows the kind of
Starting point is 01:19:22 momentum that we have. And I think it shows the excitement over an issue that's actually bipartisan. I was pleased to see a wide margin, both among Republicans and Democrats, voting for it. So I think with that kind of momentum, we can go over to the Senate and say, look, this is what the people want. And clearly that's reflected in state legislatures across the country and in the House vote yesterday. We've never been this close, John. This has been. the first time. This is, we're getting somewhere with this. But I think this is, we got to check the prop bet market on this baby. This is a solid no. Well, what they, what this guy, what this Yates guy is saying is they need to push it to the states. This is going to make it even more fun. So the states
Starting point is 01:20:06 can decide what time zone they want to be in. This is, this makes my head spin. In your view, what do we gain by stopping the twice yearly changing of the clocks? One of the things I was really encouraged to hear yesterday were all different politicians kind of getting up and talking about the health detriments of the clock changing. You know, it wasn't that long ago that we just thought of changing the clocks for daylight saving time was kind of annoyance, but we didn't think of it as deadly. But now the research is really clear that it really is deadly and very disruptive. It's bad for schools. It's bad for businesses. It's bad for everybody. The only thing that we don't agree on is completely is on which time zone we should be locking into. But I think we've got a
Starting point is 01:20:46 solution to be able to address that without having to have the clock change twice a year, which is what I think most people actually are the most interested in is just they don't really care that much which one we lock into. They just don't like the switching. Well, what's the solution? Well, the solution is actually an amendment that I proposed back when it was in the Senate last year to have a two-year implementation period. And what that allows is for each state to be able to have enough time and the school boards to weigh in and everybody in a state to be able to say, look, this is a time that makes the most sense for us. You know, anybody that says they've got a perfect solution that works for every state in
Starting point is 01:21:23 the country has some other agenda they're trying to push. Saying that you've got the exact right solution that works for Massachusetts and also works for Indiana, well, that's just not possible. So I think if we have a two-year implementation, which is an amendment that was accepted and is now part of the Senate version, that would give people. of, for instance, Indiana and Michigan, a couple of states that I think would be really well served to be on permanent standard time to be able to make that decision. So it's kind of crazier than I thought it would be.
Starting point is 01:21:53 So each time zone, each state would be able to determine what, you know, what time seven o'clock is. So, you know, today we have two hours difference between California and Texas. It might be one hour. You imagine if every state just, you know, what's the time? there, well, we're in Indiana. I mean, Arizona still does its own thing in Indiana until recently used to have their own time. Yeah. But it's not that unusual. But every state might be, might get a little funky. No, the whole thing's a joke. Well, these things never come to fruition. It's just going to keep going. Once it was established, they can't get rid of it. Because I,
Starting point is 01:22:31 I was kind of convinced, kind of like you, that, well, this is interesting. And then I listened, of all the shows, it was actually gut-filled. They had the little group of, comedians on there and it was just was split right in the middle no it should be daylight savings time all the time no it shouldn't because then in the morning and during the certain time of year it'll be too dark for the kitties oh yeah and they have to pick up they won't be able to see the bus when it comes and they're gonna get mugged and killed so think of the children we can't do daylight savings times all year round but wait there's but then if we do standard time all year round then it's too dark at night nobody's going to go out and shop it's going to be bad for commerce this is
Starting point is 01:23:11 not working. So there's a solution for this, which came in the same week as this news. Yeah, take the Earth's out of orbit. No, no, no. It's the new company, Reflect Orbital. This is, so if you don't like the fact that your kids have to walk to school in the dark, well, then you just rent some time from Reflect Orbital and they can spread some sunlight on a five-kilometer patch of Earth. SEC has been plans by a Hawthorne-based startup to test a satellite that would use a 60-foot mirror to then reflect sunlight back to planet Earth after dark. Reflect orbital says that it would power solar farms, provide light for rescue workers, and illuminate city streets. The idea here is to have access to the sun on demand, and when it's needed, reflect orbital plans to have more than 50,000 satellites in action by 2035.
Starting point is 01:24:05 However, some astronomers, wildlife experts, and others, oppose this idea completely. They claim that the light from the mirrors could distract airplane pilots, could wreak havoc on astronomical observations, and interfere with sleep-wake cycles. I think this is very cool. I'm surprised it's not an Elon Musk operation. Yeah, that's not happening either. Yeah, it is. With a screwball story. They give me a crap for just screwball stories.
Starting point is 01:24:30 They're demoing it. They already have one up there. And so you say, okay, let there be light and they just reflect. You know, there's things called street lamps. No, but below. Let's say. Why do you need a satellite? Light up the street.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I lost my key somewhere in the yard. Let's just, let's order some light for five minutes. Yeah, that would be, that would be so inexpensive, you can be sure. Well, just reflecting some light. 50,000 of them. How much space junk do we actually have? have. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:05 There's enough of the Starlink satellites to go around. Too much going on. Too much going on. They should put Starlings and put little mirrors on them. Yeah. I see him regularly flying by. Regularly. So Biden's come out with a book. Oh.
Starting point is 01:25:21 He's coming out with a book in November. Uh-huh. And he produced a little video of him talking about this book coming out. Wait a minute. Don't tell me this is another listen to, No agenda show, a segment? No, no, this is actually, this is Biden. And I have two clips because I have a short version,
Starting point is 01:25:43 which is the segment that I want you to listen to a second time to try to tell me what he's saying. Okay. So let's play the long promotion for the book. Okay. Since that's the presidency, I've had a lot of people ask me, Joe, what are you doing? Joe.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Joe. I've been spending a lot of time with my family. I'm dealing with the cancer diagnosis, and I've been getting treatment, and it's been going really well. I want to thank all those well for their prayers and support and well wishes. It's meant the world to me and to Jill. I've written a book about my time as president. It's called Promise Me America. It's coming out in November, and it's available for pre-order now.
Starting point is 01:26:28 It's about the challenge of me faced as a nation about the decisions I made. why I made them. Leading the country through COVID, rebuilding our economy, and restoring our democracy after the attack on January 6th. Any of our nation's longest war in Afghanistan. What?
Starting point is 01:26:51 Strength in the NATO and supporting Ukraine. It's about why I chose to run for election and why I chose to step aside. Is this a coloring book that he is releasing? Or is it a... actual words. Be nice. So I get the segment there that he mumbles a bit.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Tell me what he says. Any donation's longest war in Afghanistan. Strengthen, you need to. Okay. Something about the war in Afghanistan. Let me listen again. Any donation's longest war in Afghanistan. Strengthen to NATO.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Any... Any... The longest war in Afghanistan. Hold on. Any... Ending their nation's longest war in Afghanistan. What nation's longest war? Ending the nation's longest war in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Okay. Any new nations, longest war in Afghanistan. Okay. Ending the nation's longest war in Afghanistan. I can literally, I'm a Joe Biden whisperer. I can hear him now. Okay, but now let's listen to the second part. Strengthening you do.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Strengthening you do. Strengthening NATO. Oh. Yeah. Strengthening NATO. Wow. Wow. So is he going to do an audio?
Starting point is 01:28:06 book because that would be genius. I'd buy it. Wow. Yeah, so I'm going to be competing with him with my book. I'm going to be talking to Mimi about it. Yeah. By memoirs. Yeah, your book would be great.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Here's what I understand about books. There's no money in it. No, it's that the idea. Well, I'm not running for president. What's the idea? Well, you, if you ever run for president, you've got the book.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Right. What do you do a book for if there's no money in it? You have to get, it's a service. It's like, why do we do this podcast for we don't get any money? It's a service. I know, but I already do a public service. Now I've got to do another service. You know, you haven't done the, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:55 The thing is. Yeah, exactly. It never ends. But here's what I realize. Because throughout the years, I've written blog posts and stuff. and I think I've told almost every single story on the show at some point, which is good because I have transcripts of everything. I'm worried that my recollection of things may not be the way it actually happened.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Someone comes out of the woodwork and says, hey, you're full of crap. What do you do in that case? Oh, that's going to happen. Yeah, well, of course it is. But then what do you do? You say, hey, well, so I remember it. Okay. I just can't slander anybody.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Well, that's easy enough. Well, but I got to tell my Richard Mark story. Unless they're dead. I got to tell my Richard Mark's story. Is he dead? No, but he's litigious. He's very litigious. He's crazy. Oh, yeah. Richard Marks is crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:52 He's only mentioned him in the book. But it's a great story. No. Well, why don't you call him up? No. Tell him if you can tell the story. I don't need his permission to tell the story, do I? Well, if you don't want to get sued, maybe.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Well, see, now I don't want to do a book. Boy, you're easy. What a pushover. The worst thing about Richard Marks, who I had a... I don't even know who you're talking about somebody. Nobody knows who you're talking about. Are you kidding me? Richard Marks in the 80s and 90s had number one hits back to back.
Starting point is 01:30:28 You know, just because you don't... It was the Marks brothers, or what you're talking about? Okay. I will play you a Richard Marks. Mark's song. He sings? He's a singer? Yes, he's a singer.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yes. But what group? Richard Marks. He's just Richard Marks. I never heard of him. No, I'm not surprised you've never heard of him, but he's quite famous. Let me see. What's, uh, he has all new songs.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Where's his biggest hits? Uh, well, was it right here waiting for you? Right here. waiting for you, Dick Marks. Here we go. This kind of stuff. Oh, this is the kind of stuff I don't like. That's probably why I never heard it.
Starting point is 01:31:19 No, of course not. This is boring. Look at, oh, that's Brian Adams. Hold on a second. Light some candles, people. Right, that's Brian Adams. That's not even Richard Marks. Oh, you don't even get the right guy.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Here we go. This is him. This is him. There's your... Sounds the same. 1980s, uh, D.X. 7 synthesizer sound He comes out of the smoke Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:31:42 This is good Oh yeah He's got his blue jeans on He sits down at the piano And uh You don't remember this song No It sounds like a dime a dozen
Starting point is 01:31:56 It's a long intro Hold on Okay you can stop it No I want to hear him sing now And I slowly go Anyway, so I made a joke about his hair once on MTV, which was okay. You know, I had hair. Did he have long hair, short hair, or bald?
Starting point is 01:32:15 He had big hair. He had big hair like you had. Yeah, and I said, there's Richard Marks with his hair at number four on the top 20 count down. He tried to get me fired. He literally tried to get me fired. Who what? Because I made fun of him. He went to...
Starting point is 01:32:31 How did you make fun of him? You said he had hair. That's, I'm telling you. He went to Abby Conowitz. He went to Rick. crim, you know. The irony to be if he's bald now. No, he's not.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Well, no, the hard part is, you know, he's married to? You won't know her either. Daisy Fuentes. Now, you don't know Daisy. Nick Fuentes' sister? You're hopeless. This book is not for you, okay?
Starting point is 01:32:55 This book is not for you. Don't worry about it. Don't read it. Mimi and I will make a book and we'll make a book. We'll make a book. And I want to do that whole, download the PDF. And if you want to buy it, then value for value, just send me some money.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Yeah, you'll get something out of it. We'll get nothing. You'll get nothing out of it. No, you get something. You just want me to do it so I can go on a promo tour and promote the show. I think it's a good benefit for not having anything about Richard Marks, though. No, no, because that was a legendary fight. This is legendary.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Wow. And then we're on a live... You're unselling the book as we speak. We're on a live radio show and he says, I hope you get canceled. sir. That was Richard Marks. That was kind of cute. Yeah, so there's good stories there. It's good stories.
Starting point is 01:33:44 All right. Let's play this clip. Fun fraud testimony, NTD. Fun fraud testimony. And following a string of major criminal fraud cases in federal programs, Senate lawmakers here from investigative journalists and watchdogs on how to stop billions in taxpayer fraud before it happens. And D correspondent, Jason Blair, has the takeaways. When a fraudser commits fraud, he or she or, she steals from all of us. The Senate Homeland Security Committee is looking to tackle widespread fraud
Starting point is 01:34:12 being exposed across the country. Chairman Rand Paul compares the federal government to private businesses that verify payments up front. Washington pays first and asks questions later if it asked them at all. No private business would survive this way. A bank confirms an account exists before wiring the money. A credit card company flags suspicious changes in seconds. Paul highlighted major criminal cases in Minnesota. Prosecutors have now charged 15 people in Minnesota with schemes involving more than $90 million. One autism services scheme alone, $46.6 million. The Justice Department calls it the largest Medicaid autism fraud case in its history. Independent journalist Nick Shirley, whose investigations helped expose those Minnesota cases, tells the committee the problem is nationwide.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Now the highest government funded daycare in Minnesota has pleaded guilty to daycare fraud. and the largest autism bust in America history has been exposed. If we as Americans do not stand up to protect our country, we will lose our country. Journalist James O'Keefe describes undercover work that contributed to a federal prosecution. We recorded a woman named Brown handing over cash as payment in exchange for a homeless person to register to vote in a federal election. Now that is a federal crime. Ranking member Gary Peters describes bipartisan legislation. He helped pass to stopped conflicts of interest with pharmaceutical companies.
Starting point is 01:35:36 After learning that a company was being paid with tax dollars to advise the government on oversight of the pharmaceutical industry while simultaneously being paid by pharma companies to help market their drugs. You know, the fraud in America, I got a stat here. Let me see where this was. It's half the budget. Here it is. Nine days of improper federal payments. equals the entire annual budget we send to Israel. Nine days.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Two weeks of only Medicare and Medicaid fraud. It is out of control. Yeah, can you imagine what it would be like with Medicare for all? Oh, please. We'd be broke. The whole country would down. Did I tell you that when I went to visit Lex, remember my first boss on his estate?
Starting point is 01:36:33 Yeah, Lex, Lex Luther. Yeah, on his estate. He's got in a state. The guy has made so much money from art. I mean, you walk through, we went to the modern museum of art in Amsterdam, the state look museum. He's got better stuff at home, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Oh, let me tell you. Do not go to the state of the museum. It is a jip. It's a total, like, what is this? It's a jip. It's stupid. It's a jip. It's like, oh, there's some sand on the floor with two shoes. and the title is
Starting point is 01:37:07 Vimtee Schippers is gone. So go to Lexus house. Oh, there's five war holes. Can you get me an invite so I can go to his house someday and look at his art? Yeah, I think so. Well, you should have been there for the expo when he had his... He had his... Well, it's too late now. I'm just saying now.
Starting point is 01:37:26 You know, you go to the bathroom. There's two Keith Harings. He has pop art. And then he has these photos. He's got a photo of the... Beatles at the Cavern or Tavern or Tavern? Or the Cavern Club in Berlin? You've never seen this photo before. It's before the one that everyone has always seen. I mean, he's got the most amazing stuff. Anyway, what was my point? It was about fraud. Yeah, it was something important.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Oh, about the healthcare system, Medicare for all. So in Netherlands, oh, they've got free health care. It's great. So when he needed something, and he's 81, now. He cannot go to a doctor and pay the doctor privately. He has to wait in line for weeks or months like everybody else. Why? I thought you could do that. No, not, no, not in the Netherlands. Nope. Nope. Nope. But by the table. No, they won't do it. He says, I've tried everything. Yeah. He says, you have to go. Yeah, if you get a specialist, then you might, for something very specialized, you might be able to get in within a week. But in general, back of the line.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Everybody's treated the same. It's equity. It sucks. It's equity. You're getting all feisty now. It's equity. So just when you thought AI couldn't get any worse, introducing Anthropics Claude for teachers.
Starting point is 01:38:53 You're also a mom. This is Amadai. This is the CEO's sister who's also in management at the the company. You're also a mom. Is this something you would hope to see in your children's school someday? I personally feel really, really, really excited for what it means my son's going to be. Oh, really, really, really excited. Kindergarten this year. And I'm really hopeful that his school will adopt, you know, Claude for teachers to help tailor curriculum for him and for his classmates. There are going to be parents who hear this and feel nervous because parents have watched their
Starting point is 01:39:29 kids with smartphones and scree time and social media. And they've seen the unwanted, unintended consequences that they weren't really prepared for. This is in the hands of teachers now. But what do you say to the parents who are nervous that this new technology is going to repeat those same mistakes? I completely understand and relate to this worry. And I think a key difference here is that Cod.A.I. remains for 18-year-old users and above only. So individual students below the age of 18 won't have access to the tool directly. And I think this isn't because we necessarily feel worried that this is a terrible thing to give to kids. But I think the reality is we just don't know enough about AI's impact on the developing brain. So let's just use it on kids. for Anthropic to feel comfortable giving access to students directly. We know that AI can hallucinate.
Starting point is 01:40:32 It can make mistakes. If this chatbot were to make a mistake, if it were to give the wrong information or bad advice or reinforced bias, who would be accountable for that? These models are not foolproof. They do make mistakes. And part of how we have worked with teachers in developing this technology and really listening to their questions and concerns is helping to, you know, spot when an AI might be,
Starting point is 01:41:02 you know, entering unknown territory. What are the signs to look for? Could possibly go wrong. Do not let your children into a school where they have clawed for teachers. This is not a good idea. I'd say, here, I got a Google. I got an AI story this week. All right.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Google. Big Google. And what does the future hold for the news industry as more people read AI-powered news summaries? And he's David Lamb asks an expert. Some news publishers are concerned about being asked to join Google's new pilot program for AI-powered article overviews. According to a report and the information, content would be shared in Google News and Gemini AI giving Google broad rights on how to use the content.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Matthew Gilbert, a senior lecturer of marketing, shares his thoughts on the current landscape of news summaries. I think there's definitely been a shift in how people look for information and also how they look to consume information. You do get links to the actual articles, but before any of that, you're getting summary. And what's interesting is I think a lot of people, if they already see what they already need,
Starting point is 01:42:14 they're not going to even click through beyond that. Currently, the Google News Showcase platform pays publishers to create and curate online news content through a licensing program. But publishers fear that if they opt out of the new pilot, they may risk losing the fee they currently receive when Google shares their articles. Gilbert also notes that there's a risk to articles that feature deep investigative content. There's a real big risk that what you're producing gets lost in the shuffle or doesn't even get seen at all because if all that it's looking for is the sort of top-level
Starting point is 01:42:49 shorthand takeaway, that deeper investigation that more important information is not going to get read. Google says that for years it has produced 24 billion monthly visits to news websites. Chances are their content will still probably in some way or another still be getting fed into the AI system, whether or not they even are aware of it or not. Yeah, this news is broken. They need to stop this. This value for value by individual journalists is, I think the only way to go.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Maybe. That's your opinion? Yeah, my opinion is maybe. Maybe. You're an independent. There's a restaurant, by the way, in the Bay Area that's doing value for value. Do they call it value for value?
Starting point is 01:43:35 No, they don't, but it's definitely value for value. Have you been? No. And what do they do? Just pay whatever you think the meal was worth? Yeah. Or can you also choose to wash up to do it? What you mean?
Starting point is 01:43:50 Call, you mean, do the dishes? Yeah, time, talents and dresser. Yeah, wash up. Or, you know, like, I don't know, set tables. No. I don't know about that. Maybe. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:44:01 I think you should go investigate. Get in that old Lexus of yours. Drive over there and go take a look. Maybe I will. Maybe I'll get out of the house and check it out. And you should record it and you should say, this sucks. I'm not giving you any money. Just do that.
Starting point is 01:44:14 And then Google can take and summarize it. And I get nothing out of all the effort. No, if your substack is value for value. Can't people send you money if they want to to the Oasis? Yeah, they can send me money. Do they send you money? Does it work? Yeah, I get some money.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Okay, well, then it works. The system works. You're living the new international lifestyle. Enjoy. It sucks. It stinks. So we know about the Apple Open AI lawsuit. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Starting point is 01:44:46 Yeah. It's a gem. It's my thought. Maybe. My thought is maybe. You can't have maybe. Everything I say, you can't just come back and say maybe. Maybe. Maybe is this theme for the might. Maybe what. Maybe what. Maybe what. Maybe they'll win. Well, maybe or not. What are you thinking about in this lawsuit?
Starting point is 01:45:09 Well, I'm just going to lead it into a clip because Open AI supposedly they revealed what they're doing. And it sounds dumb. OpenAI's first hardware device will reportedly be a speaker built as an AI companion. Kate Rooney has more. I feel like I ask you about this every day, Kate, what we know about the hardware. Listen to it. Plans of OpenAI. Now put some details.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Sarah, they've been so secretive about it, but we are now getting some new details and reporting around Open AIs hardware plans as this company now fights a hardware lawsuit from Apple. Bloomberg now reporting OpenAI plans to launch what they describe as a screen. free AI companion designed for your house. It does sound really similar to Amazon's. Alexa would be a portable battery-powered device would help control smart home devices, answer questions, play music. As I mentioned, has been extremely secretive about these plans. Rumors have ranged from a wearable pin to some sort of earpiece, no comment from the company. But sources I've talked to say the designs could change. It's still very much in the works. And this report does also say the device may launch by the end of this year. Open AI's entire hardware push, though, is now very much under fire after Apple
Starting point is 01:46:24 on Friday sued the company and its top team members over allegedly stealing intellectual property devices. Overall, it's been a major strategic push for this company. It did pay six and a half billion dollars to buy iPhone designer Johnny I've startup late last year. So a screen free. Yeah, we talked about this on the last show too. No, we did not. Yes, we did because we talked about specifically, you and I both agreed that Silicon Valley does this all the time. And we specifically talked about Johnny Ives. Yeah, but we didn't talk about the device. This is new.
Starting point is 01:46:56 You didn't know about the device. No, the device. This is Alexa. Well, I don't know. Is it? Yeah, set timer. I think it's just a chat bot block. Play my play.
Starting point is 01:47:12 That would be worse. Set timer. Okay. Would you want to talk about the weather? What's it kind of talk to you about? Well, people talk to, hey, people talk to their chatbots all day long. So might as well have it in the house. Oh, God, can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:47:31 No, and it's not for me, but yeah, I can imagine. I mean, yeah, I can. What else? They don't have any other business. What is this super cut you have? I might as well drag you through it, drag you through these last few minutes. I just got a kick out of these super cuts. this is the, when Elon, somebody put these together recently,
Starting point is 01:47:51 when Elon Musk bought Twitter, they were all over it. And we're talking about everybody. They hated this whole idea. And I got two super cuts that talk about, first of us, was the end of Twitter. Elon Musk has managed to bring Twitter to the brink of collapse in just three weeks. This is the end or was the end of Twitter?
Starting point is 01:48:17 Does one come back from destroying Twitter, burning it to the ground? Elon Musk burning the business to the ground. The absolute destruction of the platform formerly known as Twitter, thanks to his decisions. Twitter is really in an ever-quickening death spiral. They're going to have a hard time just keeping the lights on over at Twitter, given this mass exodus. Advertisers, but also users heading for the exits. It's a shithole, right? Elon, fuck that shit up.
Starting point is 01:48:46 There's better engagement on threads. He is not a media platform owner. He's never done this. He doesn't know what he's doing. It has to be just a question of time before, whether it's Mastodon or some other site that actually operates in a responsible way, takes over all of the Twitter users. We will go there.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Elon Musk can, you know, this could be all fun and games from it. At the end of the way, he's going to drive this business into the ground. There will be nothing left. All the advertisers are gone. You can't have a major brand in this. country and be putting your ads on platforms like this that are unsafe for children that are spreading misinformation about COVID that's actually killing people. He's a dangerous man. I've said it many times on the show. Well, when it comes to a podcast about media deconstruction, I think that that
Starting point is 01:49:29 qualifies as clip of the day. Wow, that's an obscure catch. It does. Well, so then we have after it didn't collapse in three weeks like everyone predicted. What did we say? Well, you said the Fedaverse was going to take over everything. The Fediverse is the way to go, man. Decentralized, baby, is cool. The Fediverse. Ask Comics for a blogger. He's been kicked off every single instance on the Fedderverse ever.
Starting point is 01:49:59 And then the ones he's allowed on, he says, this is no good. I can't syndicate with no agenda, no authority, social. The most censored Fediverse node on the network is no authority. The most censored. And all they do there is they do these... The Fediverse was co-opted by the left. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Your whole idea originally, which I'm mocking now, but in fact, it could have been true, it could have been true, except it was co-opted by the left, which they do, and it's ruined it. Well, it depends on how you view it. That's the way I view it. Okay. That's the way you. Like we have podcast indexed out social and it's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:50:50 It's not political at all. It's just about podcasting 2.0. It is a fantastic system. Works really well and people can still follow or, you know, jump in if they want to. And that has not been ruined by any political stuff at all. It's really good. and there's no moderating, I don't sit around, you know, blocking people and telling him to stop. There's only one, only one instance that I block, and that's no authority dot social.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Well, good. And then, you know, because I don't have the time to be blocking poist and, you know, was it shitposter's dot social. Once in a while, I get all this, once in a while I get all these direct messages because they have these contests. the faggot of the month. And then... Oh, God. Yeah, and I was up against some dude from Sweden. I lost.
Starting point is 01:51:45 You lost? You weren't faggot in the month? I was not faggot of the month. Oh, that's a shame. I know. Well, there's one more shorter clip, which is the super cut of... After the three weeks, it was over, and they didn't flop. They started calling Twitter a cesspool.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Blan-Mosskas has turned X formerly known as Twitter into a cesspool. Twitter. is just such a cesspool now. But it's also a cesspool. Everything that goes on, it's a circus cesspool. Twitter right now is a cesspool. Twitter is a cesspool or X, I guess it's called now. Cess pool.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Just bad information lies. Hats pool. Twitter is becoming a deeper, darker, cesspool of disinformation and chaos. It has now really become a cesspool of misinformation. The Twitter sphere, as it is, has really gone berserk. Lately, it's got to become almost a cesspool of misinformation. Arguably, it's never been this successful. I know.
Starting point is 01:52:38 I think it's, yeah, and I think particularly with the with the XAI integration. And now the thing I did predict. And Grok helps a lot being on there. The thing I predicted is the money stuff. That's coming. I predicted that years ago. And that's coming. I agree.
Starting point is 01:52:53 You have and hasn't happened. But I'm not saying that that's a bad prediction. I think the Fedaverse prediction was a bit much. But that other one about the money. Yep. Yeah. Definitely. Apparently it's already in beta.
Starting point is 01:53:06 And from what I understand, if you put your money into the X wallet, and I have no idea how it's going to work, you'll get 6%. I don't know how we... Ooh, it's going to be a FinTech company. FinTech. FinTech. Oh, you crack me up, Dvorak. FinTech, yes.
Starting point is 01:53:32 That's another buzzword from the past. FinTech. But I had something on, what did I have something on banking about money in fintech? What was it? Where was that? Oh, yeah. The Clarity Act.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Yeah. That's what everybody's waiting for, the Clarity Act. What's the Clarity Act? The Clarity Act is supposed to give clarity on how stable coins work. And I think the main thing is, the way I understand it. there's probably a lot more in the Clarity Act. The main thing is the guys who are doing stable coin, they want to be able to give people interest on their deposits.
Starting point is 01:54:19 And the banking sector is going, no, you can't do that. That's our business. And if you want to do that, you should become a bank. Subsequently, I think Circle, USDC, has become a bank. So that's what I have two clips from Lumis, Senator Lumis, is the one that driving this. The Democrats want Republicans to go on the record to reject ethics standards
Starting point is 01:54:42 that would apply to President Trump and to Congress. It's not clear if there is 50 GOP senators willing to take that vote. Can you give us some color on that? Yeah, we've continued to work on ethics language that the
Starting point is 01:54:58 Congress has to live under and the president has to live under. So some of the issues are things like can a state attorney general, sue an elected official. For some reason, they're talking about something other than
Starting point is 01:55:12 the Clarity Act here. Is it talking about ethics? I don't know what that clip is. You guys, your clip. Yeah, I don't think that clip is not valid. But I do have a Jesse Waters clip about our money as Jesse paid a visit to the Treasury
Starting point is 01:55:31 and hung out with our general patent on the down low. Tonight we're taking you somewhere the cameras usually don't go. The Treasury Department's secret vault. And we found something that's never been seen before. Beautiful room. And here is the treasurer's vault from 1863. And, you know, Jesse, I can't let you pass the gate.
Starting point is 01:55:55 No? Too much money in there, Jeff. All right, you don't trust me. Well, it's not you. It's not you. I've heard that before. Yeah, exactly. And so what used to be in this vault or what's in this vault now?
Starting point is 01:56:09 Well, I can't tell you what's in there now, but Americans used to come and cash their checks here. That's exactly what I was thinking. I can't show you what's in there now because there's no money. There's no actual cash in there. Where they came here? Yep. Or banks could present.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Hey, they stopped a clip. Hey, what was this? What about that, whatever happened to the visit to Fort Knox that were supposed to see by these, by the Fox people? There was someone's going to go visit Fort Knox and show the gold. That was Elon. He was going to live stream it. Yeah, what happened to that?
Starting point is 01:56:38 Well, they don't want to embarrass anybody because there's no gold. Well, I can't tell you what's in there now, but Americans used to come and cash their checks here. That's where they came here? Yeah, or banks could present and get greenbacks. Solomon Chase, who was the Treasury Secretary during the Civil War created the greenback. We used to have, states used to have their own money. banks used to issue their own money and he consolidated into the greenbacks so people could swap for greenbacks here. Were there silver coins? Were there gold coins? Were there certificates?
Starting point is 01:57:13 All the above. Okay. And we still have all those, but now most people use currency. I hear there might be a new brand of currency around the corner. Well, same currency, just different series. And it's going to look different. Well, it's going to have one big change on it. For the 250th, the president's signature is going to be on it for the first time. So I think it's fitting. Donald Trump is president or 250th anniversary. So it will be the president's signature and my signature on it.
Starting point is 01:57:49 So much for my $250 bill idea. Have you seen these? That's not collectible. Is that collectible? No. I don't think so either. although there's going to be this gold one dollar coin with Trump on it.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Well, there's the coin that I have with Steve Jobs on it. Yeah, that's pretty collectible. I mean, I'd say. Boots on the ground, a note, we finally have one. A producer and Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Gentlemen, I've been a longtime listener of the show. I've been a night since 2020. I was listening to episode 1884, Code Brown,
Starting point is 01:58:26 when I heard the challenge for any producers who are members of Patriot Front to step forward. forward. Okay, here he is. I'm a member, photographer and social media influencer. Patriot journal on Instagram for Patriot Front. This is like the marketing guy. Okay. I'm sure if you look hard enough into my donations, you can figure out who I am. Well, we have no time to do that. We're not doing that. Just tell us or we don't care. I don't mind. I don't even want to know. With all that said, I ask that you keep any and all personal information private. You ask why we wear the mask. I do so for my wife and children. Our opposition, Antifa, Marxists, etc., would love
Starting point is 01:59:06 nothing more than to run to our employers and claim we are Nazis. Historically, they're often successful. And then he says something interesting, because he's influenced her after all. Would you guys be interested in interviewing the leader of Patriot Front, Thomas Rousseau? I can't make any promises, but I believe he would be up for it. My Instagram account is also a wealth of information from answers to commonly asked questions, to speeches, etc. I'm happy to answer questions as well, but I do not speak on behalf of the organization.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Only Thomas does. I would say no. We don't really do interviews. I don't think so. Something might be done. You might do it for a best-of show. We'll call it the Nazi episode. We could do a couple of Nazis.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Oh, man. Actually, what would be fun would be do the Patriot Front guy and do somebody, the head of the Democrat Socialists. Oh, yeah, together. Like a debate. In the same room? No, I don't think they would get along. Host a debate. You should host a debate.
Starting point is 02:00:17 You should debate him. Whatever happened to those? That was a thing for a little bit there, podcasters debating each other. I missed those days. Those days were good. Nobody cares about podcasters. With that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the cytosytosis.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only Mr. John. In order. In the morning, you, Mr. Ann, C, in the morning, our ships the sea boots at the ground. Feet in the air. Tops in the water in all the games and nights out there. Hey, in the morning to you, trolls in the troll room. Stop moving around.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Let me couch. There we go. 20. Treek peak trollage of 1,339. It's kind of typical for a Thursday. Good to have everybody here. Up 100 from last show. They are listening.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Last Thursday. Listening live to our stream because this is a live-to-ta-tape program. No editing, no going back on multi-tracks and fixing little stumbles and burrs and urs. No, no. We are just professionals. Fix it in post. We are professionals. and we give you the real deal and we do it twice a week on Thursdays.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Okay. And that means that when you want to, you can just listen live to us. You can also, and I think that's a big part of our success formula, actually. People like live. There's something about it that it's like emergency, urgent, emergency pod. you know, it's like, even if they can't listen live, they know that it has a live feel to it. Don't you think most podcasts feel dead?
Starting point is 02:02:05 Just dead. Oh, the NPR ones for sure. The people who host those are dead. But these days, and oh, man, I am so grateful. A lot of podcasts do feel dead. Yeah, just dead because it's like, yeah, you know, they don't have the excitement. They're not walking on the high wire like we are.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Yeah, right. Tight rope. Tight road walking. And I'm so happy we never went to video and did YouTube. And I see this. So Tina, she used to listen to Megan Kelly religiously. Religiously. Now with video, everybody just, including Megan Kelly herself, they just cut segments.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Now it's like five minutes here, seven minutes there. And so she's scrolling along on Instagram or whatever. and they, oh, yeah, no, I watched the Megan Kelly show. Do you really watch the show? No. No, I just get a clip. I think this is a, well, you identify what I thought about this too. You identified a problem because I don't watch, I would watch a Joe Rogan show once in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:11 I don't think I've watched one for about a year because I just see these little segments and I figure that's the best of the show. Hey. It's like best of. Something amazing just happened. Tina just texted me and said, I'm listening. she might have the explosive diarrhea. Are you not feeling well, babe? She never listens to the show.
Starting point is 02:03:35 She's, this amazing. She says, ha. I'm listening now. I always say, why don't you listen to the show anymore? She says, because I get you live here. I get all your conspiracies. I'm sick of it. I think that's what she's really saying.
Starting point is 02:03:51 I'm sick of it already. Yeah. So anyway, no, but she's my. my canary in the coal mine. So when something bubbles, because she's watching, you know, people working out on, she's, she's an Instagram girl, the reels. She, you know, then she will dig she gets in the dog algo. The dog algos are kind of cute, though, I have to say, you know, see the dogs doing stuff.
Starting point is 02:04:12 And cooking, man, it's still all with cheese. But then once in a while, she gets in the podcast, Algo. And it's literally just the same with Rogan. I don't know if how many, I just don't think a lot of people. watch an entire two or three hour Rogan anymore. Don't they just get the best of clips and just watch that? There's millions of these accounts that post little clips. You know, I got on an interesting Algo stream.
Starting point is 02:04:41 On Instagram? On Instagram? Yeah, on Instagram. Yeah. Chick-fil-A. Every other thing was a chick-fil-A post. People in cow costumes. People, yeah, just one thing after another was,
Starting point is 02:04:55 I must have been a hundred. And they're all native ads of some sort. I don't know how they're doing it. But Chick-fil-A was just producing tons of these Instagram posts from all over the place. The damnedest thing I've ever seen. Huh. And how long were you in this alcohol? As far as I know, I'm still in it.
Starting point is 02:05:18 If you want to be alerted when we go live, you'd need one of these modern podcast apps. these have been around, they're mature now these apps. They're, you know, five, six years. These new apps have been around. And they are still much better than the legacy apps. If only for this reason that when you subscribe to the podcast, when we go live, and there's several other, a lot of live podcasts, certainly in the no agenda nation realm, Gitmo Nation. You get a note, you get boom.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Your app goes, hey, the boys are going live. And a little art, you know. Oh, a tap, boom, you're listening. And I think maybe even more important because of the pod ping technology we deployed across hundreds of thousands of podcasts that use this now. But of course, Apple and Spotify don't use this. So when we publish the show within 90 seconds, your app notifies you. So there's no longer refreshing and waiting with the podcast.
Starting point is 02:06:16 No, boom, it just happens right away. As you heard earlier, we are enjoying the benefits of the new international lifestyle known value for value, which is the only way to go. We don't have to worry about anything. We say, well, I guess slander would be one, but we don't have to worry about pissing off advertisers or misreading something or giving the wrong promo code. None of that stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:43 All we have to do is just do the show, which we do kind of as a public service, but we like continuation. We like doing the show. and the only way that we can do that is if you support us. And you do that by returning whatever value you got from the show. So there's no set number, no set amount of times. We will tell you, honestly, when donations are down,
Starting point is 02:07:08 if we don't say anything, then donations are good. They're a little bit down today, but it's not horrible. It's kind of been the same forever, hasn't it? It's been dull. Dull? Well, really? I mean, you know, it's been, it's been low generally. Yeah, it's been higher.
Starting point is 02:07:30 But it's consistently, but it's not like, you know, bouncing all over the place. It's just about this and, you know, here and there plus or minus a few donations. It's amazing how it kind of evens out with, you know, like just when the numbers are really bad, then someone will come in with a big donation. It's really interesting how it works. I mean, we could write a book about that, but why would we? It's no money in it. Haven't we considered that?
Starting point is 02:08:00 Didn't someone at some point want us to write a value-for-value book? I thought I got a- Maybe more of an essay. It's like half a sub-stack. Anyway, you can support us in multiple ways. Time, talent, and treasure. That is the system. A lot of people do things for us.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Set up websites, run different things for us. It's really quite amazing how much people are willing to help. Boots on the ground helps enormously. And show art. Artwork is always good because we see that as promotion. Whenever we post a show, it also shows up in your podcast app. We've been one of the few shows who has done this. Before AI, we were definitely like one of three shows that did it consistently,
Starting point is 02:08:50 had new artwork for every single show because it was so hard to make. And we've trained people to doing things in a certain way. And you know what works and we know what works. And it's an attention grabber. So when we saw the artwork by Jeffrey Rhea for episode 1885, we titled that one Adult Daycare, we want, yeah, that's the one. It was, I guess that's a Code Brown ED explosion. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 02:09:21 There's a bathroom. But it's nice. It was no agenda. Curry and Dvorak. I think Jeffrey Ria is a hybrid artist. I don't think this is all AIA. He's never told us. I'm just thinking.
Starting point is 02:09:33 Or has he? I'm just thinking that he's a hybrid artist. We have a lot of those hybrid artists. Yeah, in other words, you do the AI and then you take and drop it in Photoshop and fix it. Do some stuff. Yeah. Do some stuff. And let's see.
Starting point is 02:09:48 I mean, like color balance. Hello. We had... How much work does that take? I love it when you say, I can fix this by color balancing. I'm like, I'm not going to wait for that. No, we just choose something from Darren.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Let's see. We actually had some funny art, just funny for us. No More Darren O'Neill. That was Miss Chohohoh. Some of the comics for blogger put a lot of stuff up there, including Darren O'Neill even did a No More Darren stuff. Stop Darren Slop. All stuff we'd never use.
Starting point is 02:10:24 But we got to laugh out of it. Appreciate that. Yeah, there's a big number of No More Darren. Yeah. We kind of like the instructor jumping out of the airplane, but it's kind of gruesome. No. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:42 I liked the blue acorn, Sam I.M. With the cat in the hat with the green brain. And you thought that was too gruesome. I can't remember I'm looking for it Oh that one yeah I don't like that at all I like he's neck I don't like that
Starting point is 02:10:58 The brain no What's wrong with the brain? It looked nice Sick All right Jeffrey Rhea Thank you very much For your contribution to the best podcast in the universe It is highly appreciated
Starting point is 02:11:11 Now we go to the treasure portion These are people who support us $50 and above We like to thank everybody Not under 50 for reasons of anonymity And there are a lot of people who give us very small amounts, you know, $2, $3.33, $1,133.13, $11, $1, $1, $12. So the list would just be a little bit too long.
Starting point is 02:11:31 But we always like to highlight people who are in the fortunate circumstance to be able to give us an executive or associate executive producer donation. So it's $200 or more. Not only are we guaranteed to read your note, which people take advantage of in interesting ways. but we will also give you the title, show biz Hollywood title of Associate Executive Producer, $300 or more, and you get the executive producer credit,
Starting point is 02:11:57 and these can be used in any Hollywood situation. So it's the real deal, including IMDB.com, or put it on your LinkedIn or in your social media profile, on your letterhead. And if anyone ever questions that, we'll be happy to vouch for you.
Starting point is 02:12:10 So our first executive producer, and coming in straight away with $1,000 plus the fees, which is $30.26. Is Sir Dan the man. Sir Dan the man's been around for a while. He's from Cape Coral, Florida. And he has a longer note here.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Let me see what... And their first request for a kidney. He has a request for a kidney? This is the first... This is a no agenda first that note he's about to read. He needs a kidney? Well... No, his wife does.
Starting point is 02:12:40 Oh, well, let's see what's going on. Dear Adam and John, I'm writing as a long time, no agenda listener and supported to let you know. I'll be making this show donation of $1,000. I appreciate the work you do and the community you've built around the show. Normally, I would remain semi-inonymous, but these are not normal times for my family. I want to humbly ask you to share this message with the no agenda community about my wife, Linda,
Starting point is 02:13:01 and her kidney transplant journey. A few weeks ago with no warning, we found out that she is in end-stage renal failure. Dr. DeVorek, what does that mean? They'll make sure kidney stop working. And you have two kidneys. So both kidneys have failed, I guess? Yeah. You only need one.
Starting point is 02:13:23 We have started a GoFundMe to help with the medical and related expenses that come with transplant care, recovery, travel, and ongoing support. Most importantly, Linda is also in need of a kidney donor. And anyone who will be willing to get tested can start the process at www.m.m.m.comvigliving donor. M-T-I-Livingdonor.org. If any fellow producers or listeners feel moved to help, whether by donating, sharing the fundraiser, or considering living donor testing, it would mean a great deal to our family. So I'll put this link in the show notes, in the credits. Thank you for considering the request, and thank you for the laughs, the insight,
Starting point is 02:14:07 and the community you continue to create. I'm grateful to be able to support the show, and I would be deeply grateful for any help spreading the word for Linda. And he wants a mac and cheese and a job's karma and all the health karma we can spare. So I'm going to up the Annie here. If any no agenda producer donates their kidney to Linda, I will take you out to dinner personally. I will come to wherever you are in the country and I will take you out to dinner. But it's only if it's your kidney.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Now, if it's your kid's kidney, you get two dinners. Guaranteed. Well, we certainly hope for the best. Sir Dan the man for you and for Linda. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Maconzie and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Starting point is 02:15:02 Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. That is definitely a first. Definitely a first on the show. Yeah, definitely. Mr. Lips is up. He's at 3.46-46. And he has a note that's just the opposite.
Starting point is 02:15:17 It's short. Thanks for all you guys do. Love you both. Mr. Lips. Love you mean it, Mr. Lips. Hey, there's Manuka Gold in Hudson, Florida, 333.33. And Manuka Gold, the entire family, says, keep fighting the good fight from Manuka Gold. And thank you for the nice feedback on Sunday.
Starting point is 02:15:34 We just place an order with gigawatt coffee. I love this cross-promotion. We're excited to try it. We're truly passionate about natural health. and there is real science for the health benefits of coffee. Not only is it amazing for brain health, but it also lowers the risk of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. And on a personal note,
Starting point is 02:15:54 as someone who took care of my mother full time for six years while she battled Parkinson's, I'm a faithful drinker of dark roast black coffee, and that seems to be gigawatt coffee specialty. I can't wait to report back. And don't forget, for those you who want to, you can stop by and visit us at manukagold.com. use code freedom for the whole month of July for an extra 20% off.
Starting point is 02:16:16 This one is from Kelly and the entire Manuka Gold family. Thank you, Manuka Gold. It's interesting. Gigawatt also sent Jace a birthday gift of coffee. Oh, this is so nice. A small family business. We have another interesting note here. This is Rosalind K. Price in Birmingham, West Midlands, UK, 333.
Starting point is 02:16:39 Thank you. I'm a choreographer in the UK who got cancelled in 2021. And since then, I've set up a support organization, and we should link to it, www. Freedom in thearts.com. Freedom in the arts.com, all one word. Your show gives me and my family strength and hope. So I looked into this.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Yeah. This is a very famous person. And in fact, I sent you a show notes memo, which has a link to her interview on GB1 out of the UK. Yeah? On YouTube. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it. It's fascinating.
Starting point is 02:17:25 She was a famous choreographer in the UK that did all these very elaborate productions of the Rosie Kay dance troupe. And she just mentioned at a house dinner party to some new group of dancers, she just casually said, well, I don't know if trans or, you know, does impinge on, it seems to, it's a trans thing. Yeah. Impinges a bit on women's rights. And she got canceled because there's a whole structure set up to get her fired from her own company. And the whole thing is she's very, it's very interesting.
Starting point is 02:18:07 So this, she describes some of it or some of the mechanisms to fight against it on this website. Yeah, they got tool kits and all kinds of stuff here. But the story on the, on, in the video, is more interesting than her website. So we're here, myself, Rosie Kay, and this is Denise Farmy in the red over here, to launch the new boycott crisis and the Art Beyond Boycott toolkit. Oh, you know what? So for her, I think she should join the new international lifestyle of value for value. This is the kind of person who could do that. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Yeah. Oh, we're happy that we give you and your family strength and hope. That's so nice. Thank you, Rosalind K. Price. That's nice to know. We're doing good, John. Yeah, we're doing good. That's us.
Starting point is 02:19:00 We're doing good for people. I like that. Peter Muir is in Houston, Texas. $127. Thank you, Peter. I've been listening to you guys for about 16 years at least, and one of those weirdos, and was one of those weirdos that went back to the beginning when it was bare bones. I guess I'm paying it backwards now. ITM times 34. ITM times 34, X-34. I'm not sure what X-34 is. I don't know what that means. Yeah. Thank you. Sir Dave, D-A-H-A-P. DeHap, it's all caps. DeHap?
Starting point is 02:19:36 In Gladstone, Missouri, it must mean something. 5794. This is the first associate executive producer. Happy birthday to the BC Country ITU. Heading to Tanzania. Tanzania. Tanzania. I knew that didn't sound right.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Tanzania. Tanzania. What? Where's Tanzania? I don't know, man. Tanzania. Heading to Tanzania for a few weeks to help an NGO that works with victims of human trafficking. Wow.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Traveling karma, please. We'll keep an eye out for more Africa news. It's a crowd pleaser, Sir Dave Dahap. All right. You've got karma. Over to Indianapolis, Indiana. $257.94. I'm pretty sure that's $2.50 a freedom donation plus some fees, Sir Digi. And he says, this is from Sir Digi. And we thank you very much, Sir Digi.
Starting point is 02:20:45 And then we go to Jeremy Brogan in Amherst, Ohio, 25015. Now, I realized that he put the fees in too, because he sent in a check. That's 15 cents. It's 15 cents. Nice. Compared to 794. Right. Right. Hello, people. Mm-hmm. ITM, gents, a slightly late and matching quarter millennium donation plus fees. Yeah, plus fees. Can I ask you a question about fees? 15.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Let me ask you a question. Yeah. So if someone sends us $250 plus fees, so that's $257.94. Don't we get docked over the 257.94 for fees? I'm not sure how they do the calculation. Okay. But that money is what we get. All right.
Starting point is 02:21:39 We'll carry on. Thank you, John, for making me cry while shaving when reading my son Conner's note for my birthday. Father's Day slash Father's Day. Now, he wants, oh, okay, this is for you, sorry. He wants suffering succotash with a we're all going to die. And then he says five to eight more. years, Jeremy Brogan Amherst, Ohio. Yeah, well, why don't you dream on with your five to seven more years?
Starting point is 02:22:14 Suffer and succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. We're all going to die. All right. Nailed it. Hey, there's Sir Cal from Lavender Blossoms in Northville, Michigan with 227.72. I remember it from a while. I love to hear from our boy cow.
Starting point is 02:22:35 Thanks for all you do. Keep it up. John, tip of the day. Drink motherwort tea. for calming and healing the heart. Love you's, Sircal of lavender blossoms. I'm pretty sure Lavenderblossoms.org is still up and still operating, aren't they? We haven't looked at them in a while. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:22:55 Let me see lavender blossoms. Because he grows that lavender himself. Hmm. Lavend, is it lavander? Lavender. Hmm. I don't know. It doesn't look like it's up.
Starting point is 02:23:09 might not be doing it right thank you very much sir cal we appreciate you uh now we have you have to pronounce his surname i would pronounce it miles vrendenberg miles but you apparently it's a dutch pronunciation it would be different yeah friedenberg what about his first name miles miles miles fredenberg and uh that translates to uh freedom Freedom Mountain. Miles Frieden Mountain in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Or it could be Berg. Just Freedom Berg is probably more accurate.
Starting point is 02:23:50 20115. As an American, I'm curious to hear the correct Dutz pronounce. Oh, he doesn't even know. That's good. That's a good one. That's good. First and foremost, please deduished me. You've been deduished.
Starting point is 02:24:08 I could also use some. Jobs Karma. I'm a dude named Ben looking for an exit strategy. Thanks for all you do. I appreciate you folks. Miles Fredenberg from Cami Cambridge. Massive two shits. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yvesa karma. And coming in hot as she does every single episode and we are grateful for that, Linda Leopacken from Castle Rock, Colorado. And she has asked as always for Jobs Karma. And she has a message for you, which is important. Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't. For a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers Inc.com. Linda helps professionals and
Starting point is 02:24:52 executives position their experience so employers see their value. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K and Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes, best Linda. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You stop. Oh, my. Unblock VPN.com. Hello. Stop.
Starting point is 02:25:18 Stop. Stop, stop, stop. You're going all Robocop again. I'll do this one. Something's weird with your connection all of a sudden. Yeah, you're no good. I think you said change networks. I think you said change networks.
Starting point is 02:25:33 I would say that's a good idea. And I will read the donation note from UnblockMeVPN.com. time from Honolulu, Hawaii, $200. ITM, protect your privacy and freedom with Unblock MeVPN on the Apple and Play stores. Others on our website at UnblockMeVPN.com. Two free servers, 22 paid, unthroddled, cancel any time, trained on the great firewall to make it the best VPN out there. Give thanks.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Are you back? Keep going. Did you switch? Because you're good now. No, I didn't switch yet. But I have a feeling it's not just you. I think it's a routing issue because every single time it happens, my YouTube TV, the quad screen, goes into a circle.
Starting point is 02:26:24 That would seem like it's not me. Yeah, well, it's the connection between me and California because no one has had any issues. The stream is still good. The chat room's up, so I don't know. Scam likely. Go away, scammer. Our final associate executive producer is Sean at investor portalpro.com. What is this? Houston, Texas, $200.
Starting point is 02:26:51 A long-time listener. First-time caller, no need to dedoche. Well, okay. Listen up if you've got a business and have clients or investors. We need some investors. If you're already sharing documents, tracking distributions, and accounting, or managing communications, you know how important it is to keep everything secure, organized, and easy to use.
Starting point is 02:27:14 If you've been looking for a better way to handle fundraising, waterfall, or capital calls, and other automation and payments, then yes, yes, Investor Portal Pro fits right in. This is new. Investor Portal Pro is 100% employee-owned, built for clean professional investor and shareholder presentation, and trusted to just work.
Starting point is 02:27:37 This is quite the ad here. Visit Investor Portal Pro. or text 212. Well, that's an old school New York number. 212-658-0862 and use the code ITM for 20% off. That's investor portalpro.com or 212-658-68-62. Love some jobs, karma. And do you have anything with Art Bill?
Starting point is 02:28:01 I don't think we have anything from Art Bell. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got karma. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,886. We appreciate what all of you have done for us today. We'll thank everybody right after we tell you once again that these credits are real and Hollywood style. Our formula is this.
Starting point is 02:28:30 We go out. We hit people in the mouth. Shut up. continue with our gratitude for our value for value treasure supporters, $50 and above. Stefan Truccles and Seuss, Deutsche Land, $110.11. We see your palindrome. And he said he was happy to have met Joe from Michigan today in his local restaurant.
Starting point is 02:29:01 It was founded in 1638. Wow. That's an old restaurant. There is the Archduke of Luna, Love of America and Boob, Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, with his every single show, boob donation, $80.8. God bless America and boobs, he says. Juraj Kojak in Prague checks him with a boob donation.
Starting point is 02:29:23 Thank you. Hello, Prague. James Edmondson, South Plainfield, New Jersey, double nickels on the dime. Lane Lamarro in Gilbert, Arizona, 55. And says it's laying your buddy in Baghdad, far from the green zone, 22 kilometers, in fact, apart from a few times, ordinance has flown over campus walls. We're in a green bubble.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Summer break is here. The pools are open. Luke Monell in Los Angeles, California, $52.72. And we hit the 50s. Whoa, that was fast. Samitra Saravana in Fredericksburg, Virginia. $50, thank you. Sir Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Easy landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Philip Ballou and Louisville, Kentucky. Chris Lewinsky, Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada. Pamela Bradley in Takumish. Decoomseh, I'm sorry, to cumsa, Oklahoma, and Chris Cowan, our final $50 donor from Austin, Texas.
Starting point is 02:30:21 After that, we got $49.99s. We see you all, and we will not mention you, but thank you very much. We appreciate all that you do. We appreciate everyone who sports the best podcast in the universe. It really means a lot, and it keeps the show going. So thank you. And if you'd like to support us,
Starting point is 02:30:36 go to no agenda donations.com. Anytime you feel like it, anytime you feel like you got some value out of this podcast, send it back to us. You could even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency, no agenda donations.com. It's a birthday, birthday. And we have, oh, only two birthdays today. We have end-of-show mixer, Sir David Kekta, who wishes Helena Kekta a very happy birthday.
Starting point is 02:31:04 She turned 16 yesterday. Happy birthday, Helena. And Sir Dave wishes country ITU a happy birthday. We say the same happy birthday from everybody here at the best. Podcasting in the universe. Now this is a layaway baron upgrade from Sir Gary, and he sent a notes because it's under the normal amounts that we read notes. He says, I know there are many of us retired folks who send a smaller donation every month and once in a while put in a bump for the sake of those sad puppies that John Post. I hadn't checked my donation spreadsheet for some time, and I calculate that my pittances have added up to $2,641.36. Just think, all that money would have gone to what we in Minnesota called the Pink Sheet, the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Much better value for value. With the No Agenda Show, I wish to change my moniker to Baronet Sir Gary, who plays taps. I've been state director for bugles across America.org for many years, have led my state's 173.3.5.5.5.5.5.5.
Starting point is 02:32:15 volunteers providing live taps free of charge for any veterans honors services. Wow, that's very cool. If you'd mention my organization and remind families of vets when they are arranging honors to ask if they have a live bugler, BAA's website is an easy portal to make sure those 24 notes have a heartbeat behind them. It's always free of charge and always deserved. Hoping your search for an exit strategy continues to be a failure in the morning. And yes, with that, Sir Gary, you become... Baronet Sir Gary, who plays TAPS. And we thank you for your continued support of the show. Very nice.
Starting point is 02:32:52 Hey, it's time for the meetups. No Agenda. A couple of meetup reports when it rains, it pours, so to speak, here is the Keller, Texas meetup report. Hello, No Agenda Nation. This is Yeoman's Act, here at What's on Tap in Keller, Texas. I'm having a beer by myself. But as a friend of mine says, that's okay.
Starting point is 02:33:18 the journey to a well-attended meet-up is a beer by yourself. In the morning. Aw, in the morning. I'm sorry, no one showed. We sent some pictures, though. It was kind of cool. Here's the Scottsdale Arizona Meetup report. This is Lynn, the hostess with the Moses at the Scottsdale No Agenda.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Media deconstruction meetup, and it has been amazing. Hi, this is Dame Stephanie at the Scottsdale Meetup, enjoying some tacos and some great company. Quick shout out to the blonde. plus Trish. Hey. Hey, this is Sir Don, Baron of Chandler, enjoying some tacos and some cold beers.
Starting point is 02:33:56 Love is lit. Hey, this is Bruce and here at the Scottsdale Meetup. First time, our new listener, and here enjoying company of like-minded individuals. Hi, this is Gina from Phoenix at a Scottsdale meetup. I want to give a shout out to my brother Dale in Cannon Beach for hitting me in the mouth about three years ago. ITM, John and Adam.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Hey, I'm Mike. I'm a douchebag, and no agenda people are cool. I know, I came with Gina. I don't listen to the show, but maybe I will. In the morning, John and Adam. This is Rick from Mesa. We're here at Loco Patron. Our host, Lindsay, is awesome. And I love the show. Hey, John and Adam. This is your conscience speaking. I know what you did. Just kidding. I don't know what you did, and I don't care. This is Kenny.
Starting point is 02:34:52 Bye now. Hey, this is Scott Sanders in North Scottsdale. We dodged the monsoons in the dirt, wind, so we're all clean, and we enjoy our meetup. Kathy, I'm not as weird as my husband. I don't listen to the podcast. I apologize, but I'm sure it's amazing. I love the No Agenda crew. They are awesome.
Starting point is 02:35:14 They've been amazing guests. The No Agenda Meetup. people are some of the most interesting and fun people ever in my life. Great shout out to Lindsay who set up the whole thing, the whole mastermind behind the project. Everyone here seems to lead great lives and seem like amazing people, and I hope they can see them again soon. Well, there you go. Long, but a lot of people at the Scottsdale, Arizona meet up, and you hear it there. The people are fun. There's amazing people.
Starting point is 02:35:40 You will meet so many cool people at A Know-Agen to meet up. People you just might have never ever encountered anywhere else, but because of the show. because of the nature of No Agenda Nation and Gitmo Nation, you'll get together, you're going to enjoy it. And sometimes people even get married. Hi, John. Hi, Adam. Well, in the beautiful evening, it's Sir Scott the Jew. It's another meetup's wedding. And how they met was through No Agenda.
Starting point is 02:36:09 They said they had met at a No Agenda meeting, and that's how they got together. The sun came out for us in Cordelaine, Idaho. Estella's on the Hill, host a great wedding, beautiful couple, Holly and Jeff in the morning. Here at the impromptu meetup at the wedding, overlooking beautiful Clordlane Lake. And I want to say congratulations to the happy new No Agenda couple. And as a reminder to Jeff and Holly, the couple that No Agendas together stays together in the morning. In the morning! This is a due name, Jeff, and I just have to say, I met my smoking hot wife at a no agenda meetup.
Starting point is 02:36:48 Get out there. Find the connection that is your protection. Come on, you dorks. Get out of the basement. Good things happen. Here in beautiful, sunny Cordillane. Celebrating Jeff and Holly's wedding in the morning. This is Holly the bride. Thank you. No Agenda Meetups. That's how I met my keeper. It doesn't get more no agenda than that. Oh, isn't that wonderful? We've had several weddings happen here on the show. We've had proposals
Starting point is 02:37:20 on the show and it's nice to hear that we made. Another love connection at a no agenda meetup. There you go. Now, is that an endorsement or what? I don't need to say anything else other than we have a meetup taking place today in Charlotte, North Carolina, Ed's Tavern. It's Charlotte's Thursday monthly. It'll be on at 7 o'clock tonight.
Starting point is 02:37:39 On Saturday, the meetup down at the sea at Warehouse No, 9, Number 9, that is in San Pedro, California. And guess what? Warehouse number 9. 333 Pacific time. Coming up this month, what's left of it, on the 25th of July 3, Spicewood, Texas, Anaheim, California, and Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Starting point is 02:37:59 On the 26th, Squim, Washington, will Mimi be attending? Do we know? No, I don't know. Okay. Just say maybe. Just say maybe. Maybe. Oh, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 02:38:10 Maybe. Cordillane, Idaho, their next meetup, July 30th, who will be the next bride? And also on the 30th, Alfreda, Georgia. These are the Noagena Meetups. What a great place to go hang out with people. It's completely free of charge to make them, set them up, to go to attend them. It's very easy to do.
Starting point is 02:38:27 Go to Knowagenhammeetups.com and you will find out very quickly how to put it all together. There's instructions. You can list it there. And if you can't find one near you, why don't you just start one yourself? It's super easy and they are always guaranteed a party. Triggered all hell's lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. You know, I'm thinking, I was just looking at all my systems here.
Starting point is 02:39:04 When you started to Robocop, YouTube TV went down. My anthropic clawed codes all disconnected. I think there might have been a minor earthquake somewhere. In California, something happened in California. I think the whole internet burped over the. there. Possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:26 Troll Room, check it out. So let me know if something happened because it was the weirdest thing. Go to the USGS earthquake site. They have all of them up today. Yeah, see if there's, if something's going on.
Starting point is 02:39:36 Or if it was just some internet glitch. You know how that works. We have John Sip of the Day coming up in just a few, along with our end-of-show mixes. But we always like to end the show with the humans versus the machine. It's the end-of-show ISO's isolated clips. I bring people. John brings machines.
Starting point is 02:39:54 and I will start mine because I don't think I will win. Here's my first. Oh, that was hilarious. Actually, that's not too bad. I kind of like that one. How about this one? Thank you very much. And always from the well.
Starting point is 02:40:10 Incredible job. Thank you so much. No, I think they're kind of flat. Yeah, they don't know who they're thinking. Yeah, us. I have two celebrities here, politicians. Amazing. Yeah, I got Camelah Harris.
Starting point is 02:40:27 John and Adam are John and Adam and they are both good podcasters as long as they podcast. It's very long. She's long-winded. What can I say? Yeah, long-winded. Let's try Obama. Day. Don't know if you can find a better podcast than no agenda.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Yeah, okay. A definite winner. Very good. Hey, it's time for John's tip of the day. You and me Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Atom
Starting point is 02:41:00 Let it not be another cleaning product No, I only do those once a month Oh, okay, not good No, this is a cool product This is a summer product For the people in the northern hemisphere These things are fantastic And this is a pretty good one
Starting point is 02:41:18 And this comes in various lengths Depending on your patio. Uh-huh. This is a, and I'll spell it, Mel, M-E-L-L-L-B-R-E, Mel Bray Mister for outside patio. They're 19 bucks for a 30-footer. They're pre-assembled misting cooling systems with eight brass nisles. I love these things. These are great.
Starting point is 02:41:45 In Texas has them all over the place. Yeah, of course, Texas would, Texas of all places, would love these things because they're good for the back they're good for the patio uh backyard garden greenhouse chicken coop doghouse uh and they what it does and i've run you you set it up and it puts out this extremely fine mist of water and itself and it that it creates evaporative cooling in the vicinity of the mist yeah so it's nice it feels great now do you just hook it up to the outside tap is that what you do yep you hook it up to the outside tap and just string it all over you, wherever you want to put it, and then turn it on. Turn it on, Dead Man.
Starting point is 02:42:30 And what does this product cost? $19. Wow. What is it called? That's for the 30-footer. Okay. And it goes up in price if you want like 60 foot. And the brand once again?
Starting point is 02:42:43 Melbre, M-E-L-L-B-R-E. I'm telling you, if you want to stay cool during the summer months, John's tip of the day is the place for you. Creatifies for you and me Just the tip with JCP And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Burnetti Of course you can find all of John's tips At Tip of the day.net and noagenda fun.com
Starting point is 02:43:07 And we come to the end of our broadcast day As you know, we do it twice a week on Thursdays. End of show mixes coming up. We've got Bonnell's Crabtree, Just Baker. See, we got Sir Johnny, Sir Johnny B, and I put Oisteen Berger's
Starting point is 02:43:25 in abeyance. I'm sure we'll get to it. It's always, it's his own compositions. And coming up next on the No Agenda Stream, or if you're still listening in your modern podcast app, we have the Millennial Media Offensive,
Starting point is 02:43:42 very popular podcast. They'll be coming up next. And we will return with you on Sunday. Of course, that all depends on whether there's an earthquake in San Francisco or not. If you guys keep your internet connection up, I haven't heard anything, so I guess it was just a temporary blip or glitch.
Starting point is 02:44:04 So coming to you from the... Say what? What'd you say? I just say anything. Oh, I thought you said something. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country, where we are still suffering from the rainstrict backscatter. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 02:44:19 And from northern Silicon Valley, where people are hearing voices. I'm John C. DeVorak. We'll be back on Sunday. Remember us at noage and the donations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey-hooie, and such. Senators fading out.
Starting point is 02:44:32 Yeah, the spotlight's gone. Lindsay took the final bell. Now the curtains drawn. Bernie's still screaming like a punk rock dad, but the rest of them look like your grandpa's iPad. House reps rising. Governors' five. M.A. are feeling same like, hey, we're thriving.
Starting point is 02:44:53 Rowan AOC with a neon glow. Jump kicking through the primaries like a J-pop show. Salab. Rottie's and I don't more. The crowd wants youth, not the old. Mitch respawned, looking 20 years restores. Is it Photoshop? Nope. Is it CIA mask? Nope. Rumors flying like confetti in a storm, but he's just in a nursing home.
Starting point is 02:45:14 In Super H.D.4. Salem. Rody's an editor. Goodbye. The house stole the spotlight. Reaching sky high. Value for value is how this operates. for no edge and a prop a gate They say the old turtle's still kicking
Starting point is 02:45:40 tucked away where the cameras don't reach came back with a face that looks like it filed for an extension on the years Some whisper, it's a standing wearing someone else's skin We won't solve the riddle here But the details keep stacking in The turtle crawed at it would have
Starting point is 02:46:03 of a hole they had a man looking brand new like time decided to run back was just for him and nobody else in the room holding up the day's paper like a sign clapproof he's still drawing breath while half their internet's convinced they rode out a new amount of who knows how to do the mad some claim they slap the flesh color four jury straight from the three-letter crowd the kind of sweats and blinks on command when the lights get too loud others say they just swapped the frame and kept the same voice on the line neither way the pictures dropped and now the timeline does in quite a line the mess. Standing on silicone special delivery from the agency that never sleeps. We won't crack a case on the show, but the questions keep piling up. Miracle Mitch.
Starting point is 02:46:42 The turtles share whatever shell they had them in. Came back with a whole new timeline stamped across his skin. The show won't close the file. That's never how this goes, but the glow up is glowing. And the story keeps pulling at the loose ends
Starting point is 02:46:54 at show. Miracle Mitch. Or Mask Mitch. Or a model Mitch. the second glass. Value for value. Take a little bit of prettily. Make it with some power.
Starting point is 02:47:13 Pissons at a subway. That's black power. Pull a Rosa Park stunt. Crack, doubt and confused. Next to Patriot Front. Oh, do not. Flamed the hate in advance The word gets out
Starting point is 02:47:45 Then I'll live This is how we make a living Dedicated to the Grip Riff Riff, Riff, Riff, Riff, Riff, Riff, Riff, Riff, Riff Riff Blame his friends for a crime Foe Dvoran
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