No Agenda - 1890 - "Flock Off!"

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1890 - "Flock Off!" Flock Off! Executive Producers: Matthew Hoszko Alex Mandel Sir Lucas of the lost bits Sir Harrison, of the Rednecks Sir Proteus Tammy & Spiro Robert Weber Tim Hedrick J Kelly Rapier Victor Gregg Quinterox Inc. Ray Javier Matt S EnJ Electric Charles Neill Chap Williams Vince Ferro Associate Executive Producers: Wuz- knight of the baying coonhound Andria Ludlum Sir Remko Knight of Tivissa Manuka Gold CJ Schmock Daryce Morris Patrick D Buote David Powers Michele Flynn Clint C. Galliano Jonathan Riezman John Whiddon Linda Lupatkin Knights and Dames: Matthew Hoszko > Sir Matt of the flight levels Alex Mandel > Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley Charles Neill > Sir Gopher Gold Andrew Grasso > Sir Grasso, Reluctant Knight of Mineola. Anonymous > Sir Moor Baht 'At Bruce > sir Bruuuaki of Indy chris fulford > Sir Christopher the Dog-headed LaNae Hull > Dame Unilani Mira Keck > Dame of thai chicks Title Changes: Colin McCarthy > Sir Loudneighbor, Knight of Winter Quarters Art By: Dame Kenny-Ben Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Last Modified 07/30/2026 17:22:26 by Freedom Controller  

I love Max Philosophy. Larry Blytner, Darren O'Neill. It's Thursday, July 30th, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1890. This is no agenda. And we're broadcasting live from just outside of Shirek. Right here in the FEMA region number five in the morning, everybody. I am Darren O'Neill.

And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, this is Larry Blydner, keeping commies and creeps in bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth. It's Darren and Larry. In the morning. Yeah. That was weird.

That was stimulating, especially those dropouts. Was that just on my end? I double-click. That was the problem. Sometimes you single-click. Sometimes you double-click. But when it's live, baby, it is live. It's live.

So you get your single mistake out of the way. Now he'll be perfect for the rest of the show. Everything's going to be great. People like, who are these guys? What is going on? We're not telling them any. They have to ask us. It's a secret.

I understand. This is the show must go on. This is the time Thursdays and Sundays. Right now, no agenda happens no matter what. No matter what. And with the sad passing of John C. DeVorek, Adam Curry needs a couple of weeks off. And he asked the two kids that just wanted to go joyride the car if they wanted to do the show.

And I wasn't going to say no. No, no. And you couldn't see no for me. I speak for myself. We've been doing a little show called Planet Rage for the last five years, five years at the end of August. Isn't that amazing? And we basically stole the whole no agenda vibe. It's a clip show. It was originally like no agenda. We were originally going to do like an hour show. Yeah. Keep it short. Just bring clips that. made us mad.

But that sounds awful when you say steel, because there was more, we kind of tumbled into it, Darren, right? It's an homage. Yeah, but I mean, you were doing this other show, right, with Sir Bemrose, and then you guys had a falling out or creative differences, as they say, on Hollywood, right? And then you had the kindness and fortitude to ask me if I wanted to fill in, but of course, I'm no Ben, not even a little. And then you said, well, why don't we just do no agenda?

Okay, let's do that, right? Am I, is that correct? Am I remembering correctly? It's like, here's the concept. It works. Yeah. We just added anger management issues to the joke that I've been going with for the last. Poorly managed.

A couple of years, because, I mean, normally we're a little saltier, but we don't have to be. No, we know this is more of a family audience, so we'll keep it kind of in check. We'll try to warn you if there are any F bombs coming up, and there's been some from politicians this week, Yes, there have. Isn't that fabulous? Yeah. But the world works in very strange ways. And the way Larry and I got together is no different. Oh, it's bizarre. Ticking off.

Well, Larry needed help with some audio gear. And I just happened to do a video review of it on Amazon and YouTube. I think you saw it on Amazon. I saw it on an Amazon. It was about a preamp that I needed. And there was this guy, the PBX, you know, and it's $200. But $200 is $200. And so there was this guy saying, you know, if you want to know more about this,

just was like email me or how did that work? Was it through Amazon? I don't even remember. I don't know, because I had the reviews email address set up at the time because that's when Amazon was letting you get free stuff to do reviews and all that. And Larry asked the question. And rather than being a, you know, miscreant, I was like, no, I can answer. And you did.

and it just kind of went from there. He's like, hey, I do this podcast. So I started checking out that Larry show, that Larry Show.com. And I was at that point, actually, not doing a show at all. And there was a buddy of mine that wanted to do a show. We had done a few episodes,

but then that kind of went by the wayside. I had the retina blowout, five retinal surgeries, lost most of the vision in my right eye. So if I'm slow at reading the notes, the left eye isn't great either, floaters and that kind of stuff. And I can hear in my ear,

the producer in the sky, John C. DeVorek going, yeah, use the eye thing. It's good for donations. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Plus,

let's tell everybody you look like a pirate. I really should. Give us some arms. I should wear the eye patch. For the patch. It would be a fashion accessory, like the guy from the 80s that did that round and round song, right?

There was that weird video. But I hadn't been doing a show. And Larry's the one that's like, you just do it solo mento, do a solo show. See, like when Adam tells stories about you, I try to do the low voice. And it doesn't work. Well, it's true.

And because I guarantee you would never be disappointed by a guest that didn't show. And have you been? No. True. Yeah. So I started doing random thoughts, which I'm still.

doing 370, whatever it is episodes into that. And that is a solo show, which is anybody that's done one will tell you way harder than a show with somebody else. Pretty much. Yeah. So it kind of helped me go through all of these things. And while I was faced down for, I'm forgetting even how many weeks it was totally, but I'm remembering like 12 weeks because it's normally just two or three. But then they had to redo the surgery and redo the surgery and it wasn't until I found a better surgeon that they finally got the retina to stay up, but then the vision was pretty much gone. But while being face down 24 hours a day, which also meant sleeping face down with your head in a donut. I remember JCD reading my note when I made a donation

right afterwards and was like, because yeah, it's no fun. No, that can't be good. But I spent a lot of time during those weeks listening to podcasts. And I'd already been a semi-regular, no agenda fan, but this kind of took it into full orbit, which the oddest thing when you're kind of like sleep deprived, having those earphones in, falling asleep, face down, with the podcast on. I remember having multiple dreams where it was like I was in the room

with Adam and John. And it happened with the, tell him Steve get Dave guys as well who I was listening to that podcast too. Were you all clothed in this room? Yes. Yes. Everybody was totally clothed. All right.

But it was like I was a part of the conversation. And while I'm dreaming, I'm answering and arguing. But of course, they can't hear me because it's a podcast and it's not live and I'm not really there. Wow. But that's how that all came to be. Random thoughts came to be. And then I went to Void Zero, the guy that keeps everything running. for the No Agenda show.

And I'm like, dude, I've got this podcast. I mean, how do I get it on the mighty no agenda stream? And he's like, go to Sir Bembrose. And I'm like, oh, Jesus. I mean, I didn't know Bembrose then. So I'm just remembering now I should have thought that. All right. So that got added to the stream.

Mark von Dykevoid Zero was doing the music show before No Agenda. And he started having his kids and his family. And he's like, you want to take over for a few weeks? Ah, okay. In 700 and some odd episodes of the the rock and roll pre-show later, here we are. Here we are. And then you brought me into,

you hit me in the mouth. Yeah. About no agenda. And here's what it gets extra crazy. It was right at ground zero of the scandemic. And here we are now back. And it's sort of reared its head. It's flaming head.

Yes. With the Fauci furor that's going on right. right now, which is really kind of bizarre and providential, I think. It is a very interesting look because we always figured we're going to get some kind of information on that. And there's plenty of that to dissect here today. But we just wanted to let everybody know who we are, why we're here. Adam needed a couple of weeks off. And I don't know what's happening after that. I don't think Adam knows what's happening after that as of yet. but the guy needed a break.

And if there's one thing we've noticed with any podcast, when you take a week off, even when you try to run a best of or something like that, people kind of tune out and they don't really pay much attention. And we were more than happy to fill in because it seems very natural. Today, Adam's like, well, you feel in them? Like, it feels like a regular show with way more clips and way more donations. Yeah. That's kind of the aspect there. And so yeah, when I went to you and said, hey, listen to this, there's no agenda. You're like, Adam Curry, the MTV guy. So it's a very interesting thing because you were definitely coming into this knowing Adam, but not knowing John C. Dvorak where I knew Adam because I saw head banger's ball and all that on MTV. But I was the guy with a computer at 12 years old and playing with all this stuff in the 80s. So Dvorak was the third. thing that brought me in. So I guess

it all comes full circle, I suppose. It sure does. Very strange. And the universe works in very weird ways. It does. It's glorious. The only time I've ever spoken to this many people in Hello, Gipmo Nation, thank you for letting us come into your ears today.

Yes, thank you one and all. Thank you, producers, which we plan to convert to plaintiffs. No, just kidding. Criminals, right. Exactly. The only time was I won a radio contest back in the day to go in and do these sports on the loop. FAB 98 for one segment. So it was like 15 minutes because the guy that normally did the sports was on vacation. And the guy that I went in to do his show was the great Jonathan Brandmeyer, Johnny B. Johnny B. So when I tuned in to No Agenda again around that time of the eye surgery,

it's like I noticed that the, and I don't know how far back it goes, but the voice that you hear or have heard at the beginning of every no agenda up until today that says, it's crackpot and buzzkill. That's Johnny B. So it's like this was just a very weird full circle moment for me as well. because if it wasn't for Johnny B, I would have never start playing with microphones and pretending them doing radio shows and all of that. Oh, dude, when I was like 10, 12, whatever he hit Chicago in high school,

just slightly before, I would get up at like five in the morning in the summertime just to listen to Johnny's show on the loop because it was hilarious. So he was your unknowing mentor. Wow. Yeah, no doubt about it. So when I heard his voice at the beginning of every no agenda, I'm like, huh? this is interesting. Yeah.

So the universe, I don't even try to figure out exactly why things happen at this point. I just go with them and say they happen for a reason. Well, it happened even again yesterday when we were doing, or yeah, we were doing Planet Rage. And for some reason, I mentioned the robot from Lost in Space and Dr. Smith. And you kind of chimed in on that. And what was like? At the same time, Adam and. the preacher were discussing the same little but from the same show.

Pastor Jimmy released an episode called Danger Will Robinson, and we were just doing the Danger Will Robinson bit. Very strange. What are the odds? I don't know. And I will say my anxiety level on Sunday when the announcement was made was not much. I figured that I'm doing a show. I'm used to talking.

If there's one thing I'm good at, it's talking. Monday came on. Adam's sending me all the information that I need. He set up, this guy is a beyond a vibe coder. He has created a podcasting system that he could probably have an exit strategy and make a lot of money with. And he was hooking me up with this and I'm like, oh, dude, this is awesome. This is great. I got to get out of here. I got to go. The wife's coming home for lunch and then I'm doing Planet Rage. And it's like, great. The wife's walking in the door. Her phone's going off with a tornado warning. No big deal. That happens here all the time. By like,

20 to 1, 20 minutes before Planet Rage would have started. It was darker than night. And the storm that hit here was of epic proportions, 100 mile an hour plus winds. The power went out, which the exact lead level went like way higher because the last time the power went out at my parents' house, it was out for four days.

And I'm like, I don't have four days. And it took like 29, 30 hours. it where I think the power was out. So, okay, that came back on. But then we missed a couple of planet rages. And I said to Larry, I'm like, I mean, you don't think Dvorak would send like tornadoes and stuff to try to keep me from doing the show.

Would you get? Larry's like, yeah, I do. I think he probably would. Yeah. It's all because I trolled him with music. And Brenda Christensen, I think her name. What if I'm messing that up? I apologize.

Did a really nice. obituary for the late great John T. DeVorek, where she mentioned one that he hated Abba with a passion. So the fact that I played dancing queen for him one day, and I knew I hit. Oh. But she also said he had a mad crush on Britney Spears. And I'm like, I could have used this information.

JCD gave me so much crap for being a Taylor Swift fan. But he had a mad crush on Britney Spears. I could have used that information. That is good trolling information right there. Yeah. Hmm. But now we know. He got the last laugh.

I don't. That was his plan all along. No doubt about it. Who knows what will fly out of the sky and bonk you in the back of the head there? I looked. I've heard of any tornadoes. There was one that they posted the path of the tornado that hit just to the east of here. and I was watching Max Velocity.

So Mimi, I love Max Velocity. When the power was going out and the weather's bad, I'm tuning into Max Velocity because the people local, they're garbage. So I'm watching Max Velocity and they've got the storm chasers that are in the town like two miles away from here. And a professional storm chaser driving through this, this is what they do every day is yelling,

holy shit! I'm like, okay, one, we know this is bad. We know this is really bad. But one of these tornadoes made like a weird loop. So it like went up to the north and then came back to the west. Like you were drawing an L cursive. I know kids are like, what's cursive? What's cursive?

If you were drawing an L in cursive, that is the path this tornado took and Max Velocity called it a drunk NATO. I've never heard of that before. A drunk NATO, okay. But that's what happened here on Monday. Yeah, and you survived that. Yes. You did. I got a question for you.

Somebody's working as a storm chaser. How does he get paid? I think most of this is now through YouTube because people donate through the super chats and they also get money from the ad revenue that YouTube brings in, which is the only thing I can figure because now that is a huge industry.

And some of these larger storms, you'll see there's like storm. Stop. Storm chasing is a huge industry. Oh my goodness. There were some of these storms that I've seen on the Max Velocity channel. Mimi loves Max Velocity. There was like 30, 40, 50 storm chasers all on the same storm. I'm like, how can there be so many of you? And who pays a max velocity or YouTube?

Well, he would pay some of them to be a part of his network, but otherwise there's a lot that just have their own YouTube channels. Wow. I've got to start caring more about the weather. I know. You just have to get like a big tank of a car, maybe an old Lexus, put some big panels on the outside. So when you're driving through a tornado, you couldn't, you know,

so the car doesn't flip over. I mean, there was just some crazy. damage in the area. So we were totally blessed that the house is still standing. The only problem we had was the power going out. There were a lot of people not so lucky, very close to here and up in Appleton, Wisconsin, just absolutely insane. But now that everybody knows who we are, let's get to the Anthony Fauci bit because Okay. Fauci is an interesting character and I understand why they're going after him. Well, sure.

But you know, I mean, it's all politics at this point. It's not going to go anywhere. I mean, he has his full immunity. Yeah, it's theater. It's political theater. It's like he had his turn on stage, resigning the lines he chose. now he's in the other side. And it's, you know, it's Hollies and, you know, the guy's turn to wax poetic. And, you know, it's pretty funny. But what I struck me about this is if you think you've got, you know, two and a half centuries of legislative frivolity going on here. And that entire time, I think this is the absolute zenith of comedy in American government.

Nothing could ever touch this. No, I mean, he took the. Fifth Amendment 111 times. CNN said it was 112, so No, this is even better. Yeah. Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment

111 times. Once hailed as the nation's savior got pummel today as he pleaded the fifth a grand total of 111 times. Obviously, he invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 111 times. Pleads the fifth, not once

but 111 times. Yeah, more than 70 times. More than 70 times he invoked to his right under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. So Fox News counted them up and gave 111 every time they announced it. But that was CNN then. This was a super gut. CNN says, oh, over 70. What do you mean over 70?

Well, I got one where she says it was 112. So there. Well, it shows you good reporting, right? Simply counting the Fifth Amendment grabs. get that straight. It's terrible. Well, it shows you why the mainstream media is less than believable. Yeah. But a lot of what came out of this was due to Fauci's diary, which...

Yes. Some very interesting things in there. I had a clip here from RFK Jr. And I thought this was fairly interesting. One of the things that was new to me in his diary was. was his admission that he got a pulmonary infarction in July of 2021 after receiving the vaccine. So he took the moderna vaccine on national TV telling a very, very highly publicized press conference, a show of people that were safe.

Then he got one of the primary, most expected adverse events, which was potentially deadly blood clots in his lung, mitochondrial infarction. He kept that secret from the American public, and we only learned about it because of his diary. He was getting the best medical treatment at his available to anybody in the world at Walter Reed and all these other centers that were doctors fawning over him. Meanwhile, he was telling other people to take this product and concealing the fact that he himself, after announcing this press conference to show it was safe, had actually gotten very, very sick from an injury that was highly expected and highly likely to be caused by the vaccine.

I mean, I think that's even more damning. But how many times did he contract COVID? There are several for him as well, just like Joey and all the major spikers. Really, it's just incredible. Safe and effective. But he had a massive reaction to it. I mean, lack of transparency. anybody? Oh, please. I mean, I know there's nothing that more than you would expect,

but it's interesting when you see these talking heads up and down the line, like, oh, they're using his diary. It's like, but you don't, is this like a fake diary, like the Hunter Biden laptop or, oh, no, this is, this is legit. And he's not happy about this. So I would think this is good information. Why wouldn't you cover that? Yeah, well, I think, well, I think a lot of the left doesn't want to cover because it paints him for the crazy self-aggrandizing clown that he is. You know, he's so, he's, he's, he's, he's an attention whore, you know, with flashing lights around his head. And, you know, I think they're intentionally overlooking a lot of that because it, it, it paints

him as the true buffoon that he is, the evil buffoon. Yes. And, you know, we're hearing about this, but there's, unfortunately, there's very little audio. There was a, there was a thing of Julia Roberts with him. I'm sure a lot of people saw a clip of that. But it's what Fauci said to himself about all this that I think is so fascinating. And I have three very brief entries that I plucked out

from, I think it was like an 1,100 page PDF. It was a huge document, all this crap, that I think that people might enjoy hearing. I don't know. Yeah, right? Why not? I would think this is the inner look at what this guy was thinking which the,

The overall consensus seems to be that he was way more interested in being on TV, being America's doctor rather than, you know, the medicine. Like, here's one from May 13, 2020, right? Had a wonderful Instagram discussion with Julia Roberts. She was absolutely fabulous. She embarrassed me somewhat when I sat down in the chair and appeared on the screen through Zoom. She put her hands in front of a mountain and said,

oh my God, it's Dr. Fauci. He is here. Then she went on to say that I was a personal hero and how happy she was to have this conversation with me. Great experience. Then February 23rd, 2021, had a great call with Barbara Streisand. She called my cell at 6.05 p.m.

She has recently had a zoster lesion on her buttock. This is in his diary? This is in his diary. Imagine there's Babs, right? Her entire career, she's insisted people only shoot one side of her face with photographs. And now Fauci's rat her out that she's got a lesion on her ass. Imagine how happy she must be about this. America's doctor.

So Fauci goes on to say, she has post-sosted and neuralgia down her leg, but the primary lesion has healed. She wanted to know if it was old. okay to get them an RA vaccine. I told her yes. We then stared. We went and started discussing life in general. I told her that I worked listening to her songs on Alexa. She really did not know what Alexa was.

I accidentally butt dialed her later in the evening, and she said that she was going to call me anyway, since she wanted to know if there was any difference between the Moderna and Pfizer product. I told her none. I then explained to her more about Alexa. I brought the phone over to Alexa and asked it to play songs by Bombers Dry Sand.

When the song came on loud and clear, she started laughing and absolutely loved it. Wow. How about that? All verbatim. I'm not I'm not planting anything here. This is right out of his diaries. Okay.

And here's this one. This is like, this takes the cake. This one. May 22, 2021. I had a most extraordinary and memorable evening last night at the Kennedy Center. Joan Baez invited me to be her escort on the occasion of her receiving the Kennedy Center medallion. Finally, I got to meet her in person after the year-long building up of our friendship via texts and phone calls. She is absolutely amazing, warm, an endearing person, and our friendship was cemented last night as it became clear.

that we really were, as I said, meant for each other. I was somewhat taken aback by the attention that was paid to me by all the celebrities who were there who were gushing to have their picture taken with me and tell me how much they were appreciative of what I'd been doing. A typical example was Garth Brooks's wife, Tricia Yearwood, who was just gushing to meet me. The same was true for many other people, including Debbie Allen,

and Broadway legend Cheetah Rivera as well as Dick Van Dyke. I got to escort Joan up to the stage to receive her award and I sat with her as she waited to go on the stage. After the ceremony, we all went outside and had champagne.

It was a spectacular evening. He seems very verbose for a guy who wouldn't answer any questions. Word for word, baby. I mean, this guy's got some serious kinks in his head. And why was even writing this down during the pandemic? I mean, and why is he writing this to himself? I mean, he knows what happened.

I mean, holy shit. And this was obviously, why was this released, meaning this obviously was public record, not just a... Apparently, this wasn't handwritten in some journal. This was, you know, perhaps he was foolish enough to keep this on some NIH, you know, I don't know, but obviously, Rand Paul found a way to get his mitts on it, and here we are.

Yes, and Rand Paul has been very clear that he thinks Anthony Fauci is a criminal. The Biden pardon, which was probably signed by the autopend, seems to give him immunity, which that was the most interesting thing framing this appearance in front of, the Senate committee because they couldn't legally hold him responsible for admitting anything. The only way he was going to get himself in trouble was if they could then prove he lied in his

answers, which just tells me that he was maybe meaning to not be so upfront. But this is just an example of this session, which I was watching. and it was kind of comedic, but it was also kind of sad. Senator Alling. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something. What day the week is it today?

On the divisive counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color tie you're wearing? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights. under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What colors the carpet in front of you? Good questions. Yeah.

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Yeah, there's a public servant for you. There's a public servant. Now, interestingly enough that you brought this up, remember, at that hearing, he had, according to Rand Paul, there were six attorneys accompanying him, right? Five sitting behind him, and then one next to him who got thrown out,

because he couldn't keep his mouth shut, which was very funny. But, you know, there's always an alternate opinion. And this is the woman on CNN that said there were 112 uses of the Fifth Amendment. And she was talking with some law professor, some prestigious university. I don't remember which. And he thinks Fauci did himself a tremendous disservice by taking the fifth. And you can hear him blather in Fauci, number two. law profs says Fauci goofed.

Yeah, and I don't know how you wouldn't because it is what everybody just isn't. It's like when you hear mobsters, oh, we're taking the fifth. Well, it's because you have to be a criminal. Yeah. Ryan, 112 times to invoke the Fifth Amendment. I mean, you can't even string all that together.

That obviously, it sends a message. Will that strategy work? Because he says, well, I had to do that because, you know, they're looking for perjury traps? Or does that just make it worse, and is he in real trouble? I think it makes it worse. It's even a curious way in which you wonder what his legal advice was, why they decided to do that.

Because he does not face criminal jeopardy for the pardon in all likelihood. His pardon for all actions before January 2025. But that also means that you're forced to testify. That's how prosecutors use immunity or pardons, and they say now you're forced to testify because you don't have any criminal liability. what we're going to ask you about. So then to plead the fifth is actually

he could then be held in contempt. There could be theoretically at least a justice department that goes after him for not answering when he is not really facing that criminal charges. Yeah, and also when the reason put out his perjury traps, then of course, again, to the lay person, it's saying, well, why wouldn't you just say

the truth? What would be the problem in that? So, you know, I understand that's a layperson thing, but it doesn't sound good. Doesn't sound good. But I say this, like I said, this is the biggest a comedic event in the history of the United States government. No question about it. And Fauci, I think he's missing a huge opportunity

because had he played that correctly and not listened to his attorneys, he could be, he would be getting a residency at Caesar's Palace and they'd come to him with a blank, a blank goddamn check. Whatever you say, Tony, fill in the number yourself, you're our guy, okay? He could have launched himself past the likes of Kinnison and Carl and really. And here's how. There's a, if you, Fauci number three, this is what Fauci should have said to Josh Hawley when he was trying to rattle him. Yeah, we've got his clip too because it's very interesting, back and forth because you knew the game that was being played.

Yeah, this is a different version. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? let's try something what day the week is it today Thursday I know that because it was always a Thursday when I met your mother at the holiday year What color tie you're wearing? What color's your tie?

Looks like puke What colors the carpet in front of you? Brown Like the skin marks in your BVDs Okay It's a very realistic Fauci Huh? It's a very realistic Fauci

Yeah If Fauci done that He'd be the biggest star in the planet right now, but he didn't do bad. Well, and he wouldn't have walked himself into any perjury traps. And when you constantly take the fifth, you look guilty when they know that they can't prosecute him for anything. Really the only thing the Republicans have going after him is to do what they can to destroy his public image. And I think they did a pretty good job of that.

Oh, yeah. Because he sat there and just was like, I don't know. And again, the question is, can they really do anything because of the privilege, which things change? You can take the fifth to not incriminate yourself so you don't go to jail. But once you've gotten immunity, it's a little different. Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as a Supreme Court. has been clear for a century and more. Brown versus Walker, 1896, when he has been pardoned,

he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that. Your lawyer is sitting behind you, now shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt. Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. But I think I know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the people, pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while people were dying, hundreds of thousands of Americans over a million in the end, and you were getting rich, and not only were you doing that, you were using federal employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you,

personally, cash prizes totaling over a million dollars. You did all of that during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. I love that love yeah because the founge you was like well is that rhetorical do you want me to answer and this was something that I did not know going into this which again this is the route the Republicans took at this point because he wasn't going to answer you get as much information out there as you can and the fact that they had the information and it wasn't just what Josh Hawley said here which is you made a lot of of money on this. They had, as the kids say, the receipts. They said, you had this one of your staffers doing this, going after this prize, this one of your staffers doing this, this doing this, talking about the amount of money that he wasn't, this wasn't just like Johns Hopkins or somebody's like, hey, Dr. Fauci, you're doing so good. Here's a bunch of money. He was literally using his minions who were getting paid by the federal government to go out and be like,

hey, don't you think Fauci should get that award? Hey, don't you think Fauci should get that money? Sure. He's harvesting votes. And that is such a big difference where it's like you're out there. One, you're loving being the center of attention, which I guess maybe he hadn't really had that recently. I know he was big during the AIDS epidemic. And it's very interesting when you see the leftist media, which is pretty much all of it,

fawn over what he did during the AIDS crisis. And then you hear what actually happened. It's fascinating. I saw it, I didn't take it, but there was a clip of the 10-mile zone guy. What's his name? Yeah, the lead guy, the founder of that.

And he was, he did about three minutes just extolling the virtues of Tony Fauci and he actually went into I was there when friends of mine friends of mine were saved by Fauci and there's a big difference of opinion in that and there was a guy at that

time his name was Larry Kramer a gay guy very very vocal spokesman for the gay movement and he basically you want to Fauci executed back then you know so it's interesting to hear these people step up to bat for this guy

really is Well, it's the dimension A, dimension B effect, because the people that are on the left are going to tell you Fauci did nothing wrong. He has to take the fifth because the Republicans are trying to do a gotcha game on him. And then you have the people on the right who seem to have the evidence to back up what they're saying. the Bernie Moreno clip here. This was one of my favorite because after you have taken the fifth, as Fauci did so many times, I did not see this question come either.

This one was beautiful in so many different ways, which was, well, do you know what the Fifth Amendment says and who wrote it? Blacko, Senator Johnson's comments about your opening statement, Mr. Chairman. I think it was dead on, very, very well done. Mr. Fauci, do you know who David Schertler is? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. What does the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution say? And then we have this nice, long silence as Fauci is like going back to his lawyers.

on the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. No, I'm just asking you what it says. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. I'm going to give the Constitution to my aid. He'll bring it over to you so you can have it for future reference. I think it's something that every American should know what the Constitution says.

Do you know who wrote the Fifth Amendment? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights on the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. So you're invoking a right that you don't know who wrote it or what it says. Is that correct? Yes. Which, very weird. Very weird times. Somebody has to come up with like, you know, some kind of a musical audio mix of like the new, the encyclopedia for 2026. and it's people asking all the mysterious, you know, solve the mystery of the Holy Trinity, you know, is there a God.

And then every answer is Fauci reciting that line, you know. Yeah, and this Fox put this together. I think Fox has been listening to no agenda. I'll probably do, sure. Under the advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

Do you feel like you're a deep shit? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer, respectfully declined to answer, respectfully declined to answer, respectfully declined to answer, based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color tie you're wearing? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline. Then they go on with a few of the other questions, but you get it.

That's the, ring a bell every time it happens. What do you want to bet that very soon, maybe right now, people are being pulled over on the side of the road for traffic infractions when the cop says licenses registration. They're reciting the Fifth Amendment. Guarante. I guarantee that's going to happen.

I mean, you want to know your rights. There's no question about that. But it'll be fun to see where that goes. If there is any kind of legal repercussion, I mean, we know that Republicans are going to try to get it. I doubt they're going to get anything. But if you have been pardoned, the law says, well, then if you're called before Congress,

you are compelled to answer, then you would be compelled to answer. Mm-hmm. And he looked terrified. And I was also thinking, the guy's 85 years old, as Bobby D.K. told us he had a pulmonary infarction. Right.

That's no joke. And, you know, he's an old guy. And I thought he could, he could just kind of wink out right there at the desk. And then would, would Josh Hawley be charged with negligent homicide? According to the Democrats, yes. Of course, yeah.

I just don't understand because there seems, if this is a personal diary, we have to assume that what the man wrote in it is legitimate and true. And if there are things in there that cause people to question the way he handled the COVID thing, well, that's important because it did have an effect on everybody in the country and beyond. Oh, yeah. So many businesses got screwed. So many people couldn't go to church. I mean, that was the one that still sticks out of,

I don't remember where it was, but the people having church outside standing six feet apart instilled that being broken up because you know the science. How many military guys got canned from the service because they wouldn't take the VACs and kids thrown out of schools. And it was just the reverberations of this were incredible, not to mention all the ones that also had pulmonary infarctions and seizures and so on. It was unbelievable.

He is an evil little prick. I'll say that. He is. No, he's the science, Larry. Oh, that's,

excuse me. He is this. Oh, yeah. And for me, again, the soliciting money part. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Is the, I mean, it really is a, you know, Dr. Evil right out of a bad comedy movie that's, uh,

you know, it's hard to believe. And again, as a guy who was quite up there in age, even at the time, it's like, why are you soliciting money for what? You've already made a lot of money in your life. As far as I know, he's made a lot of money off the AIDS, the drugs and things that have come out. There's a lot of these things you get a percent, even if you're a public employee, which is very weird. Sure. Yeah, I'd love to know another because you know, you go online and say, you know, what's so-and-so's next.

worth. It might be off by 2,000 percent. You know, you never know. I saw when it said he was somewhere between 8 and 11 million, which sounds low because I can remember people saying that he maybe had or was a party to something like a hundred different medical patents. Yeah, I would think that would be very lucrative, but, you know, I'd like to know. I don't know, but. And I was quite interested that they could only track, I think it was 600,000, somebody. I thought that maybe 600 million to the Wuhan labs, which again, Fauci denied that at first. There was a lot of things that, uh, wait a minute. You're telling me that's the amount of money that Fauci had piped into that lab,

600 mil. Wow. I mean, I think somebody said 600,000. So it may, I may be misremembering. So don't quote it on that. Unlike the mainstream media, when I don't know something, I'll be like, you know, I heard something, but it may be wrong. We're doing a live show.

Yeah. The numbers can be jumbled up at times. But either way, they originally said no money went there. Oh, yeah. They wanted to hide where it came from. And again, this could have been the time. And I don't know if I believe Rand Paul, who said paraphrasing, you know, hey, if you would have just apologized, if you would have just admitted that, you know, you were in over

your skis. I know you hate that. So I said that. Thank you. We could have gone. I did Dave Ramsey clip now too. We could have just gone our merry way and Fauci couldn't have been, as long as he told the truth, I don't know how they were going to legally get him after the immunity that he has.

But he doesn't even want to take responsibility for the things that he's been outed for. And that's just kind of sad. And the Republicans, all they have again is to take his reputation. and do what they can to ruin his legacy. And I think they did all right. But again, half the media is going to report to you that the Republicans are big, bad people and don't pay any attention to what this guy wrote in his diary.

Yes, that's correct. Now, do you have anything else on Fauci? I mean, I think we actually got more coverage there than you actually got from Fauci during the hours that he sat there repeating the same. Why can't we make a living just, reciting the same paragraph over and over. It would be fun. Yeah, that'd be an easy.

It'd be a layup, huh? Yeah. Speaking of layup, this is a, just a little, a moose-bush for the left again. This was a story that hit the Seattle Storm owner, who's in the WNBA. I know everybody in no agenda world love sports ball. But Sophie Cunningham, as we've talked about before,

you know, a very, you know, poiny chick who decided that, one, it was okay to talk about being religious, which when it comes to being in the WNBA, man, that's bad. That's bad. And has talked about the fact that she doesn't think it's right that somebody that is biologically born a male should be able to play against girls in sports. It seems normal to anybody that can think and understand why Bob, Costis, we had a clip over on Planet Range at one point. Bob Costas saying, well, there's a reason why you have a male who was 450th in the swimming rankings as a guy going into the female rankings and going right to the top. But we've never had the opposite.

No. And there's a reason why Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Mike Tyson. It's a thing called weight class and size matters. Yes, it does. And so these two 16-year-old. girls were wearing t-shirts from an organization that wants only females and female sports. Crazy stuff. Imagine that.

The nerve. And they were rooting for both teams. And they had signs that they love Sophie Cunningham. And an old woman came up and yelled at them so much that it made them cry. And that woman was the owner of the Seattle Storm where they were in the city. So this is them just a brief clip. Okay. We were just sitting there through signs that said like, we love Sophie, like, thank you so for speaking up.

And so we were holding on, just watching the game again. We were being super great. We hadn't said anything to anyone else. We were being super respectful. We were just holding our signs and sharing for both teams. And this lady, older lady, comes up to us. And she comes up to us. And at first I think she's going to be nice.

And then she asked, like, what are you guys doing? Something like. Yeah. And then it was like, Jesus loves everyone. That's what she told us. And I was like, oh, I know. Like, I'm really just like, I know. I know.

Yeah. And she's like, oh, I hope Jesus can forgive you for what sin you've done. And like something like that. And then she told us that we were effing insane. And she went like insane. Yeah. Wait a minute. Wait, did she stop.

Did she say, she told us we were effing insane? Yes. I love that. There you go. That's a classic. You know, this is you want to invoke the name of the Lord and then tell somebody that. the what we hope they can forgive you and you're effing insane. There you know.

That's perfect. And these are 16 year old girls. I mean, the video of their interview, it's obvious that they are high school girls. They are not, you know, adults.

So this old lady, this battle accident owns a Seattle storm, thought it was important enough to go. Right. And lambast these girls. It's like, what world are we living in for saying, hey,

I don't think boys should play in girls sports. Well, I'm going to raise a beef here that I've had for decades, Darren. And it just bugs me, like getting over your skis. And the fact is these young girls said this lady came over to us and spoke. You called her a later. And no, a lady is a woman who's kind of classy and genteel. A woman is just a woman. This is just a female.

And clearly, this woman, this cranky bag, was no lady, you know. No lady whatsoever. And people, the other way they do this, there was a hell of a, oh my God, it was a front page crime case, probably six or eight years ago. Somewhere in upstate New York, a couple of dirtbags escaped some prison

and went on a rampage. And it was like unbelievable. They beheaded people. They burned them alive. It was just horrific, horrific story. And the head cop that chased these guys down and found them gave like a three minute statement.

on his journey, bringing them to justice. And every ninth word he had to describe these two turds was these gentlemen. Right? These gentlemen, these gentlemen beheaded the man. Then these gentlemen burned the other person's eyes out of them. These gentlemen. God, everybody stopped doing that. Man is a man, not necessarily gentlemen.

Same thing for ladies and women. And I'm just going to do a Dvorak type call out and ask you, Was it Henny Youngman that did the old? That's not my lady. It's my wife. Was that the line? Henny used to say, take my wife, please. But I don't remember the lady thing with Hatton.

I might have been, I don't know. I missed that one. I don't know how I even know Hennie Youngman. I'm only 55. I swear, I shouldn't know any youngman, but I watched way too much old TV and listen to old radio shows, I guess. Well, that's the best stuff. Yeah, Dobie Gillis.

I love Doby Gillis, man. I never saw one second of Dobey Gillis. In fact, I did it. It took me until Gilligan's Island to discover who he was, but I never saw that. Bob Denver. Yeah. Bob Denver. We're in a bucket hat.

Don't ever wear a bucket hat. Never ever. The skipper had a cool lid and the skipper was cool. Gilligan was an idiot because he wore a bucket hat. It's that simple. That's the look. You see a lot of bucket hats on people in like Portland in that area. Why is that?

I don't know. Because that's their Bemrose. He's in the Seattle area. The Bemrose. South of the mystery of the bucket hat, please. Why is so many bucket hats? What's the point? No, no. Then there's bucket head. He took it to another level, didn't he?

True, but that was like a KFC thing he put on. It plays really good guitar. He's really damn good. Yeah. You know, that's the beauty of it. Just have a, have a shtick. But if you could also back it up. Yes, yes, yes. Now, a guy that's been backing it up is Elon Musk. Oh, right. I like Elon. As we kind of move into the AI category because AI is everywhere. there's a lot of misunderstanding about AI and I think what Elon is putting out here this from

the economist in an interview I don't think he is absolutely correct in what he says but we'll let him say it we'll tell him he's wrong if he's wrong yes I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence right there's the wrong buzzer it's But what is intelligence in around five years? In five years? Roughly five years is my guess. So there really won't be anything that AI can't do better than humans, apart from being human, perhaps. In a more prosaic level, what will life be like?

The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance. where anyone can have anything they can think of. This may sound preposterous, but well, here we are in 2026. Let's see where we stand in 2036. Now, of course, there are things that could derail this, like, a massive global thermonuclear war or something like that. Just something very small, like global thermonuclear war. Some trifle like that. Hey, Elon, back off the ketamine, baby, really.

That's a, yeah, that's a slight thing happening if you have the nuclear war. And the whole, oh, you can be better at everything except being human. No, because they still can't think. Yeah. You know, Elon, oh, continue, I'm sorry. But assuming that there's not World War III, I think we're headed for an age of amazing abundance. So this is, I guess, a message of optimism. and excitement about the future.

You're sure that humans will no longer be in control in 10 years' time? I think it is unlikely in the same way that if you had a vastly more, like, you know, the like if the difference in intelligence between AI and humans is vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between AI and chimpanzees, it's hard to imagine that the chimpanzees would be in charge. I'm really struck by this. And we are essentially an evolved form of chimpanzee. So it wasn't that long ago that we're swinging through the trees, eating bananas in the jungle.

And we still eat bananas. Okay, Elon. Okay, Elon, yeah. Well, I say this about that, about Elon, about that, Darren. there's no doubting the guys are brilliant dude unquestioned you can't you you know that's a it's a stone fact and I think people overlook he's also a hell of a salesman or he wouldn't his business career would never have got to the point it is now were he not and I witnessed that when he rolled out the first debut of the cyber truck and I don't know if you saw this but it was a big a big place whatever the hell this arena was where he introduced this truck and they rolled it out on

And then he gave a little rap about it, blah, about this. And it's, you know, it's a harder steel, faster, cooler, stronger, whatever. And he also mentioned, I believe that it's, he said it had bulletproof glass. And to prove his point, he was hefting what looked like, it looked like a ball bearing, but the size of a softball. And he whipped it at the passenger window with all his might and shattered it. Oops. Oops, you know. And, you know, a lesser salesman would have just crawled under the truck, you know.

But he kind of turned around and laughed and said something, well, we'll have to work out a little bit. You know, and people roared. They loved him. And I suspect some of those sales abilities, techniques are coming out on this, this, what you just played, you know. Yes. AI at a certain level is a parlor trick. It is dependent upon the data that it has going in. If it's learning about a subject and it's getting that information from.

X or from Reddit, well, then it's going to give you some very inaccurate answers because it cannot actually think. That is the one thing that a lot of people still will not wrap their brain around, which is the AI cannot think. Now, it can do a certain amount of problem solving, but it doesn't understand the world around it or why things happen. One of the best examples of this was a winning piece of AI art for No Agenda. A few episodes back, I didn't do it, sadly. But it was of a glass office door that said, no agenda. We take AI tokens.

And I wanted to make that into a video using Croc, which is one of the better video models out right now. May not be quite C dance, but it's pretty good. And I'm like, well, we want the, you know,

pointy girl to come, open the door, walk out and say whatever it was. And I tried five to seven times. And most of the time, she reached through the glass to open the handle that you could see on the front which was the perspective you had,

it didn't understand that, well, human hands shouldn't be able to just go through that glass to open it. Right. And then the wrong side of the door was opening. There are so many things that will show you. If you work with AI, which is why I recommend people do work with AI to understand what it can and can't do for coding.

Oh, it does great because it has so much information. It has so much data. And if you give it good data, well, when you type in, hey, I want a username and password thing so people could log in. It knows how to do that. Yeah. But it's confused by woman putting her hand through a glass panel to open the door on the other side of where she's standing. Yes.

It's like AI is not magic. No, it's not. You know, I think if you've seen the film, Forbidden Planet? Not recently. Okay, so you know it, though. Then that was really the Rosetta Stone for all science fiction since it came out, probably, I don't know, in 1950, early 50 sometime. And that's really, it was an AI story, really, before somebody had coined the phrase. Walter Pigeon and the very pointy Anne Francis, the uniforms were ripped off blatantly by Star Trek's or the Ray guns.

I mean, it was incredible. I mean, they just set the bar for all of it. And it ended badly. That's what I'll tell you. I don't want to be a spoiler. Or a movie from the 50s. It didn't work out real well, AI. It just didn't, you know.

And so. Well, the fact that he's telling us this is going to be in five years, it's like, you're going to have to make some massive leaps. Yeah. And I also want to understand why this is okay for the planet and the amount of electricity. It's like I'm kind of in a third world country in Illinois now when the storms come through. What do you mean kind of? I know.

I totally. And I've got to, like, you escaped from California. You were smart. Well, thank you. But I've got to escape from Illinois at some point as well. You shall. Since these devices can't actually think yet, the fact that Elon thinks they're going to be running things, how? Whose playbook is the government of the AI bots going to go to?

Are they going to go to the Constitution of the United States? Or are they going to go to, you know, Marx? Yeah. Or Lenin. Mm-hmm. But Elon, I mean, I get it. He is a dreamer. And he says there is the killer robot risk.

So, uh, no, sure, Skynet, baby. Yes. There's a 10 to 20% chance of killer robots wiping out humanity. Yeah. So you sounded worried then. Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you? Yeah, I mean, you would think of that, that's a pretty high number.

It is a high number. I don't like those odds. A 10 to 20% that, no, just, I mean, it might just be killer robots. I mean, if once they build the robot bodies and then put the AIs into them, I mean, sure, they may just try to kill humanity. Let's check Polly Market for these predictions, Darren. He can be rich. Oh, by the, I told you about Fauci's when we first broke, it was like 50% and that's like 12% think he'll be convicted. It's nothing going to happen.

Well, no, because he's just taking the, what are you going to convict him on? He's got pardon for everything prior to now. so you have to understand how the legal system works. The only way they were going to catch him on something is if he decided to spill his guts, and then they can prove that he lied. But there's no way. He's not a dumb man. No, he's not.

So when you know all that information in your diary is out there, well, if you lie, you're just an idiot. If it can be proven that, you know, no, just don't say anything at all. I get it. Yeah. Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you changed your view? I still think there's risk associated with AI and robots. It's not zero. I guess I've come to my sort of philosophical conclusion is to look on the bright side.

I can't say any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI and robots. And at times I sort of think, Well, perhaps, you know, even if there was a stop button, we probably shouldn't press it because it was the most likely outcome is incredible abundance for all. That's what I thought, actually. It struck me that now you seem to have decided it's inevitable. Let's hope for the best and go for the ride. Yeah. I mean, yes, pretty much, let's enjoy the ride, I think my philosophy at this point.

What do you think he means AI is somehow going to bring abundance for all? Abundance of what? He needs to talk to Mamdami about this so he can stop the rent control and just because, you know, obviously, everybody in New York is going to be living like, you know, the ultra wealthy, right? Incredible abundance. It sounds glorious, doesn't it? I mean, AI can provide you with entertainment. I think the models are going to continue to get better where you will be able to go into your chatbot if you have one and say, oh, my kids really like dinosaurs and trains.

So create a cartoon around these two things. And it'll do it. and it'll be okay. I mean, broadcast television lately is no prize. Lately. You know, I mean, so that I think it can do. I think it'll be able to write long form stories. We've already had a few cases where somebody submitted a story unbeknownst of the people holding the competition for writers.

And one, only to be outed as a story. AI writing. So there's no question that people are already reading AI generated stories and liking them. I guess if they're winning awards and the one woman in the UK had a publishing contract that was then taken back once it came out that she used AI to write the book. But the book was selling as an independent author. It was selling enough that she got a book deal. And you've written books. You understand that you have to move enough books before a publisher is like, interesting. Well, sure. Yeah. But I mean, the thing is,

there's always a vast segment of the populace who enjoy reading or viewing crap. Well, yes. I mean, really. So, you know, some people read some AI slop or see some really idiotic sitcom or

movie, whatever, oh, that's great. You know, it's just the way of the species. Well, it's because short-form video Devorick was on to that with the TikTok stuff. It's like that is melting people's brains. Oh yeah. There was something, it was no clip, but the thing I was looking at it just before the show about how it's rewiring. The short span of stuff is just screwed people's head so they can no longer really focus their attention for more

than 20, 30 seconds on anything. So that's why book reading is really going the way of the dodo, I guess. People can't, they don't have the attention span. And because people read on their phones. And it's like, oh, no, I'm just going to, I'm going to read while I'm in the bathroom. for like three minutes and that's it. I'm not, why do I need to read anything but my phone? The phone has everything. Right. It's very weird that people watch movies.

They get their, you know, phone calls and people still call. They get text messages. You're getting, you know, photographs. My mom loves getting from their, you know, great grandson. Here, oh, there's a video. That's great. But so now they're happy that I hooked them up with, you know, so they can see it on the big screen on the computer when it comes in.

Right. It's the one good thing Apple does. It makes it really easy to get your text messages from your phone to your computer. But they love that kind of stuff. But for the kids today that are growing up, that your brain is getting wired on this, I mean, when I was a kid, I was playing with computers.

I mean, I know people are going to be surprised, you know, nerdy stuff like playing Dungeons and Dragons. And while I was never huge into Dungeons and Dragons to play Dungeons and Dragons at all, There's like stacks of books. Do you have to read and understand the rules? And now I don't think there's the comprehension level for a lot of people.

No, of course not. They're like, give me phone, candy crush. And that's the maximum level that what they can do. But Elon says there's a high doom, a high P doom. I mean, you got to believe Elon. Do you think there's still a 10 to 20% chance that killer robots mean the end of humanity? That's a high P-Doom, as they say. Well, in the long run, we're all dead, of course. So I mean, so according to the standard model of physics,

the end of the universe is a long, boring, sort of thin gray soup of gradual cooling. I mean, it's sort of the heat death of the universe is called. So if the heat death of the universe is, in fact, the outcome for our reality, then it really is all about the journey. Because the destination is terrible. God, he said journey. Oh, Jay Z.D. didn't like journey either. Yeah, I don't like journey. Sick of hearing.

Everything's a journey. I cut my toenails. It was a great journey. But it's interesting. I mean, Elon, I'm trying to figure, what do you think would be fun to have a drink with Elon? Oh, yeah, absolutely, sure. The guy's brilliant, but some of these ideas are a little out there. It's like, I would love to believe that we're going to have computers, which is what this is, have the capacity to do actual thinking and reasoning over pattern matching.

That's what they're good at now. They're good at pattern matching. when you ask your chatbot a question, it is giving you the answer letter by letter, maybe word by word on some of the newer ones, but it's pretty much letter. It's guessing what should come next based on probabilities. It's not actually thinking,

it's just going out and trying to find the information, which was this interesting story where allegedly, you know, an AI model from Open AI was given a task. This has made some of the mainstream news even. And it cheated to get the result that it was looking for. Now is this... Wait a minute. Wait, wait. The AI

cheated itself. Is that correct? Did I understand you correctly? Yes. It found a way to break out of the sandbox that it was in, which when you see the story, it's like, well, it was in a computer that had limited in from internet connectivity. Hmm. But the thing figured out how to get to the internet, which... It's a demon.

Yes. Oh, I think it may be. Yes. And what OpenAI is calling an unprecedented cyber incident. It's artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on... And of course, it's unprecedented. Everything's unprecedented. Definitely. It's over its keys.

It's artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company. on its own. And this is raising a number of concerns about the capabilities and wide-ranging implications of these powerful models. For more on this, let's bring in security technologist and cybersecurity expert, Bruce Schneier. Bruce, thanks much for joining us today. Thanks for having me. All right, so was it only a matter of time before AI simply outsmarted itself and hacked into a fellow system? And is this really highlighting a new era? Wait, how is the AI outsmarting itself to...

Yeah. Get the answer to a problem. People have problems with words meaning things. The guy talking sounds like he's AI. It doesn't sound quite human, does he? It may be. Yeah. I mean, really, your best AI experts today should be AI.

Yeah. Of cybersecurity. It's interesting. It is both new and not new. What we saw is that the AI was being tested on cybersecurity capabilities. And it was trying to pass a test. And it decided that the best way to pass a test, the test was not to do the work, but to cheat.

So it broke out of its containment. It was not connected to the internet and thought it would find the answers in hugging faces network, hacked into its network. Oh, stop, stop. Huggy, did he say huggy faces? Hugging face, yes. Hugging face. What is hugging face? It is a repository of AI models that you can download to run on your own hardware.

So where the people that are using, you know, chat GPT, you're giving money to open AI and you're going to their website. Hugging Face has models that you can download and run locally on your computer. If you have a large enough video card or if you have an Apple with a lot of memory like I do, you can download these models and do all sorts of things. Like I've got models that can create text to speech so you can clone somebody's voice, which we have a clip here from somebody that sent in some. You can do your average chatbot thing. You can do also.

It's all sorts of different models that have been distilled, I guess, is the best word in one way or the other. So they can take usually these are models. And I think one of these clips mentions, you know, these ones that you can download aren't quite as powerful as ones that you can use online, but they're close to where the models you use online were six months ago. So they're not that far behind. All right. And the intriguing thing is those models, there are zero guardrails that half of the things that you can download on Hugging Face,

which I know great. I didn't understand why. I still don't understand where the name came from. Maybe I should look it up because it does seem like a funny name. But they take the, the models. So when Open AI released the model that they wanted people to be able to download, the AI community goes in and they strip out the downloads, all the guardrails from that download and then re-upload it. So then when you download it and you ask it questions like, you know, how do you dissolve a body and get away with a murder? It'll give you answers. As they all should. You know, excuse me, this is the problem with AI trying to do guardrails is...

Well, I hate the guardrails. They're never going to work. Good. They're never going to... People can try, and I understand why you should limit, like, your children from using things like AI, because it's going to give them, you know, answers that you do not like. How about how can I create an atomic bomb? It'll tell you.

I mean, you have to get the... Okay. You might have to go to... Iran to get the information. They'll sell it to me, I'm sure. The dust. With the hugging face stuff, yeah, it depends on the source data, as Sir Knife says, in the troll room. No agenda not stream.

If you're not there when these shows go live, you are missing out. But that's some very interesting things. I have seen models that it takes one of these models that is pretty good already at writing prose. and it will then teach it the style of certain authors. So I've seen ones with Ray Bradbury. I've seen ones with Mark Twain, and I'm sure there are countless others that it teaches them the style. So it's a very interesting thing,

but it's a place where you can download all sorts of AI things, not just the overall chatbots, but if you want to do video creation, photo creation, all that, that's the place you go. And there are no guardrails. And this is why it's always been funny to me that people are worried about these main things because the people that really want to use them without the guardrails, they're going to figure out a way to do it.

Of course. To get the answers to the test. So it's the AI doing what was told to do, but not in the way it was told to do. And that is something we're seeing more of. I think this is a genie-like behavior where the genie kind of takes your wish and twists it around. Not new, but certainly at a scale, maybe we have not seen before. Yeah, I don't go along with the genie bit. It is just trying different things to solve the problem.

I've played around with creating a simplistic asteroid-type game. I want to see vibe coding. What am I going to do with vibe coding? Let's see if you can make a simple video game that you can play in a browser. And sure enough, you just go step by step. And I've noticed a few times watching the steps that the AI is taking for me.

It's usually grok or OpenAI or Claude and then seeing which one. The other funny thing is, anytime I've run into a problem with one of the AIs where it's like problem it can't figure out, trying the next AI, 99% of the time fixes it. So there's, again, it shows you the AIs, they're not really all that smart, but it's, you can just tell it to give more detail, like it created, again, like the Asteroys game, but you remember the original Asteroids game, you know, that was just like a lion, you know,

it was very simplistic. That's kind of where it started. I'm like, well, no, give it some texture. I should have picked Tempest. I agree. That would have been a better game. I want a genie. I want a genie and I want,

I want Jasmine. She went with the genie. Right. And I want them both on my journey. That's what I want. You know, this is. What the AIs can give you very greatly and you still have to fact check everything. And for people again,

because space video games, oh my gosh, Esther Jean, there's a thousand million quadrillion space video games. It's all he does. He plays space video games. Wow. And so there is a very clear roadmap on how to do certain things. But what I've noticed was there are times in the,

and I want to do air quotes, but we don't do video on the thinking of the AI model is basically it tried something to accomplish what you asked, and that didn't work so it's trying something else. It's not really thinking. It knows something worked or it didn't by the pattern matching, and it could try something else, but it doesn't really have an understanding.

Just the other example that's popping to mind is some album art I did for No Agenda with a girl riding like the little train like you have in the malls, you know, the little itty-bitty train. Sure. It didn't understand what an engineer's cap was. It just kept giving a baseball cap. Sure, yeah. Because there's obviously not enough things trained on what an engineer's.

Because who knows what an engineer's cap looks like now? Yeah, well, it's not a thinker. It's really, I guess from a layman's point of view, it's a collector. He collects crap and sometimes puts it together in the right. weighing sometimes. Yes. It won't. I don't use them. The only ones I fool around with are chat GTP, which I loathe. It's very left wing. It doesn't like what I say. It's always telling me I can't answer that

question because I don't like your politics. Right. It's got the guardrails, which are no good. Whoever's behind that, I want to punch. And then, but I do kind of like, GROC's a lot smarter, and it's a lot more open-minded. I don't think it's ever said, I'm not telling you. But the chat GTP does that whole lot. Oh, yeah, that's way harder to get Grock to tell you no. If you're asking Grock something and it's telling you no, then you're really getting into some dark territory. I would think, yeah.

But I have a few clips. I just want to play them in honor of Sir Knives, and he sent these in. And they kind of go with the AI talk that he is working on a John C. DeVorek voice emulator in DeVorek's voice. I've talked about this before is very hard. Just like a Bobby Kennedy's. There are some voices that no matter what you do, it's very hard.

Some women, way easier. I don't know why. The ones where if you're just giving it six seconds to 10 seconds, for the female voices, it seems way easier for it to get an accurate read that sounds more realistic. Maybe men are actually more complex than women. Maybe that's all backwards. Voices, maybe, but everything else. We want a hamburger and a beer or something.

I know Sir Knives. I've met him at a couple of meetups. He's a cool dude. And what he's doing is, like I said, with Hugging Face, he is giving it so much information on John C. DeVorek's voice that he's using all the compute time at work. I won't say anything, Sir Knives. to train it to do this, but I think it is still quite a bit away.

Here's an example. In the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, the feet in the air, the subs in the water, and all the dames and nights out there. I'm John C. Dvorak. See, it's too nasally. Dvorak's voice is so hard. Yeah. Well, there were three iterations that he sent.

And I remember thinking the first one was the most. similar to John. And that is the first. And that is the first. After that, it kind of, I think it drips away. I will say I did, I don't remember if I did this one, Sir, Knives on Quen or on Fish, audio. There's some great names. This one I thought was a little more realistic sounding. And this was a shorter, just throw in a voice clip to try to emulate. I love getting up in the morning to Darren O'Neill. He's okay with me lying about this. See, I think

that sounds a little closer, but the trolls in the troll room can vote about it. But each model's a little different. The cadence is too fast. It needs to slow down a little. Right. It's very hard. Maybe that's John 15 years ago. Right. Well, maybe it's just the age. Yeah.

It is very hard to do. But now, with that said, if you needed to build an app or build one of these things that was going to be like a customer service thing or if it was going to be narrating your YouTube channel, both of those are more than acceptable. I mean, you can, sounds human. It sounds like somebody speaking, but it doesn't sound like the JCD that we know.

It doesn't have those little things that you miss. It'll be interesting. Keep us in the loops or knives. I want to know the more you try. train it if it actually does get better or sometimes with trying to train in a photo style or that of a character, the more you try to train it, it then kind of starts losing. And nobody's really sure why with a lot of this stuff. It's very interesting technology.

And I totally disagree with Elon. This is not going to be a god, if AI is governing everybody. in 10 years, it's not going to be any fun. It's not going to be. It'll be abundant. Everything will be, no, you'll stop complaining. How is my AI going to make me a sandwich? I mean, that's, I don't understand.

Is it a robot that can do that? I'll guarantee you somewhere there's a robot making sandwiches by now, I would think. Yeah, there must be. I mean, I know a few years ago, I think it was covered on no agenda. White Castle was the first fast food franchise that, had a trial in one of their locations. The whole kitchen was robotic, but that's not really AI.

It's teaching you grab from here and put it here. Yeah. Now, an AI would be the human eye type robot that could be in my kitchen and I'd be like, well, go look in the fridge and see what I have and make dinner. Yeah. That's a little bit tougher. Well, you know, it's the first iteration of human-like AI. I'm really good.

It's going to be, there's no question. It's not going to be sandwich makers or bolt turners or barbecue grill. It's going to be hot chicks. You know, that's the future. I mean, when, really, I mean, when VHS came out, the mainstream guys, the studios and television, they were way behind the porn guys in diving in with both feet. They saw the future first. So I would think that why would it be any different for AI robots, right?

Well, it's definitely where you are with video creation, image creation, you know, the days of needing a Playboy model. It's gone. Oh, yeah. You know, and that's the, I mean, I've got interesting stories on that at some point as well because I've worked doing websites for a few different playmates models who, Oh, you dirty man. And my wife was like, that's fine. I don't care. He's like, I'll just change the locks.

But it was back at the time when the internet was very, very new. And they were trying to figure out, you know, hey, can you make money? And really, if I would have just kind of stuck that thing out, I could have been the guy that came up with only fans or something like that, which would have probably been worth a whole lot of money. But back at that point, you couldn't even do video online and photos were. very limited even. Nobody could have really predicted how much bandwidth we would have today. And I see you've got a couple of clips here on those flock cameras. Speaking of technology and

yes. Yes. And you know, in AI and being controlled by machines. Yeah, I just kind of, I got hip to this recently and I was just sickened by what I discovered. I mean, these things, things it's the companies is not flock it's flock safety notice that not not flock security or flock surveillance which would be kind of honest flock safety man it's bullshit that's yeah who's safety who's yeah really please so it's this is kind of a you know i have a few a few clips that sort of um drill down deeper into the uh the the fallacy of flock and uh you know i'm late to the party apparently there's a lot of people that are very pissed off about these things and there was stories of of many of them being cut down and spray painted over and destroyed.

I think in Houston, I even saw a thing incredibly in Kami, Connecticut. I didn't realize that it's all over here as well, but two towns have said, get them out of our towns. I like that. And what's really odd about this issue is, for the first, one of the few times in my life, I'm seeing folks from the right and the left united in their hatred and distaste for flock. That's what we need. Yeah, I mean, that almost never, ever happens. So, I guess the first one,

click on flock number one, get the flock out. People are finally on to flock. You have towns throughout the entire country from Chicago, Illinois, to Sedona and Arizona, who are actually canceling their flock contracts because they figured out they are getting more and, in fact, a whole lot more than they signed up for. Hi, I'm Chad Marlowe and I'm a senior policy council at the ACLU. And today, we're calling out what I think is a company that is really impressively competing to be the worst company in America, and that is flock safety. So flock safety is a company that scans the license plates of cars, digitizes them, and then

allows them to be run against government hot lists. And it also can store that information so that they can create a record of every place you've traveled for as long as they keep the data, and this can include really sensitive places, like political meetings you've gone to, doctors offices, religious institutions, even where you sleep at night, and in fact, if you read their contract, it actually is worldwide licenses to use your data. So if your tiny town is using flock, you should be asking yourself, why are we using an ALPR company that isn't only making this data available to my town? It's being made available to anyone in the entire country and in fact in the entire world. Too often the place that you live may be thinking,

we need to collect information, we need to surveil our population to keep everybody safe. But what they're not asking is safe from whom. And really with the threats presented by the Trump administration. Oh yeah. The threat. That's right. Trump administration. This clip went on for about another 90 seconds, Darren, but that's where I had to clip it. You know, and as much as I load the ACLU, There's been a few, few instances where they've actually done some good. And I'm almost, I'm almost tempted to send him a donation because this, this flaw, really, when I look at this crap, they now have 120,000 cameras. Yes. In 49 states, that's bad.

Okay, this is, this tops COVID and this maybe even tops open borders to herald the destruction of the United States. This is what went wrong with the United Kingdom. This is what has made China even more of a slave state than it ever was. This stuff is really, really dangerous, you know. Yeah, I got my first primer on this from Sir Ryan Bemrose. And he doesn't like them. I mean, he doesn't like anything, but he really doesn't like these cameras. And the nefarious thing, they're being used by a lot of private companies.

So there's really not much the cities and municipalities can do if your local Home Depot puts these in the parking lot. True. But the cities and municipalities can say we don't want them on our streets. Yes. And they are. It's a deflock.org is the website, I believe. Yes. Where you can see a listing of where these things are.

Right. And when I looked at that, there is no way for me. to drive out of our neighborhood. Well, not if I want to use the roads. I mean, I guess I could probably go through some backyards or something. Oh, you'd be wrong there. They're all. They have quite a fleet of drones.

So it's not just about roads anymore. See, that's the fun part. You can't leave the house. And all of these, it was bad enough when it was the ring doorbells. Right. But these have now added the, way they're pointed down the streets that are going in and out of towns, in and out of neighborhoods, there is a question of exactly how much data these are collecting, because these

aren't your normal cameras. And this is what I learned from Benrose. And I shouldn't even admit that I learned anything from Benrose. But these things also have sensors in them. So not only are they picking up your license plate, which any camera can do, you know, OCR optical character recognition and put that into a database. But there are also antennas on here. So if your phone is emitting a signal and you drive by one of these, it's possible that it's actually grabbing information from your phone. So even if you're in a car with somebody else,

or just walking down the street. Not only do they just see, hey, here's this guy. He looks like Larry. If you have your phone with you, it's possible they know it's Larry because they've now got the Mac address of your phone and that listing shows exactly who you are.

And this isn't just a problem with the flock cameras. I've known this for a couple of years, at least, that is when these are. reverse image search sites started being a thing. And Bing.com also had this built in. I don't know if it still is. Haven't used it in a while. But if you have a photograph of somebody, you can upload it to one of these sites and have it go look for other images that contain that person, which makes it very easy. If you're just walking down the street and you take a picture of somebody, there's a pretty good possibility.

you can find their social media pages, their Facebook or whatever social media page. It's very, very invasive. And I don't know what an answer would be on how you stop this. I think really this is so far out of the bag already. Well, I think, yeah, I agree. It's way, it's very scary. It's so far out of the bag. But there is a, I think, a groundswell of opposition to this cramp.

the guy that runs it is this geek, his name is Garrett Langley, and he's everything you think he'd be. And he knows what he's doing because he, it's now, I think it's got a market cap above $8 billion. That's pretty rich. And he knows, naming it flock safety was quite smart

because who's going to be screaming for this, you know, hysterical people, you know, say, I want to be safe. Right. And as Musk just said, you know, 10 minutes ago, You'll end up dead. Life is not a safe proposition. It's terminal.

It's very dangerous. But they think it's, you'll live forever if you only have enough surveillance. And so he's pitching it to hysterical citizens. And but the real, the real, I guess, end user, really is endless police forces. And let's, let's not forget. Most cops are guys. And most guys like yourself and myself are gear sluts. Yes.

Right. Really. We like stuff. And it's become, you know, the police, there's a fascinating book I would recommend to anybody called The Rise of the Warrior Cop, a guy named something Rodney Belko, I think. And it's insane. I mean, not that long ago, a lot of cops were called peace officers, and they had a nightstick and a gun, and that was it. And now they all look like they're just coming off the battlefield in Fallujah or Iran or someplace, you know. And because they like, they like having the high-end gear.

So this is who this guy is selling to, okay, with great success. Here's an interesting little fact that I tripped over might be of interest to you. MRAPs, that's mine resistant, whatever the hell. It's basically a tank with rubber wheels instead of treads. How many of those would you think are buzzing around these United States under police use? And this is a total military vehicle. I mean, this is nothing to do with civilian use at all. Man, I couldn't even guess.

I'm guessing it's in the 100,000 plus. No, no, no, no. It's, I forget the per cost of them. It's expensive. But there's almost 800 of them, 800 of them, as they know. But they're not in places where you think, well, maybe you might need this in Chicago or L.A. or New York. Now, these are like in Mayberry.

They've got MRAPs. And I don't know. I have never, I've yet to hear ever of a domestic minefield. Why do you need a mind-resistant vehicle to do your police work? But that's what they've got. Because they had a budget and they had extra money. And the budget gets less unless it demand more every single year. Isn't that true?

Yes. Yeah, you have to spend the budget. You have to spend the budget. So this guy, and this guy is also sharp enough, this geek, Langley, to answer the critics and the opposition. So the flock number two is a collection. He put this out on the flock website with a collection of very trustworthy looking law enforcement officers talking about why flock is great and so on and so forth. And it's pretty sickening.

We don't participate in immigration enforcement. We don't share this information with immigration officials. There are policies in place. There's auditing in place. And there are protocols that ensure that technology and that access to that technology. is monitored. We don't retain that information for longer than 30 days. SCSO says vehicle theft reports have gone down 54%. You know, I appreciate that the council sees the benefits of keeping our community safe.

To help make Spokane safer. We are working together to make sure that you're safe and that we are controlling the technology and it does not control us. How many times did you say safe in there? Yeah. No, and it's a question of what it's being used for. I get how easy it is to sell this, Because I've got cameras that point outside of my house. So that way if somebody does break into the house, you have an idea of who it was.

But this, the data is public. Anybody can request the data. Which means, oh, if somebody, you know, your wife thinks you're having an affair, well, she could get your data and the person she thinks you're having an affair with it. Oh, wait, look. Yeah.

They're always at the no-tel, no-tel. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's happened many times already. Yeah. When I lived in Los Angeles, I moved in a very nice neighborhood. And it was great. It was kind of bucolic for about 20 years while I was raising my kids. And then suddenly when the lefties took over in the city and in Sacramento, it all went to hell. And I soon had, I had six external video cameras on my home. So a squirrel couldn't approach without being picked up on video. Really, truly. And for a long time, you know, I'd hear about other places being ripped off people's car stolen, catalytic converters, so and so forth. And my younger daughter would love to review the videos in the morning and see what had picked up overnight. It was usually coyotes and raccoons and a couple of mountain lions, stuff like that. And one morning she's looking at breakfast and she just gasps, right? What are you looking at there? And she shows me.

And there is this obvious, you know, kind of meth head ghoul. and he has got my, in L.A., all of the, most of, not all, but just about every house, the breaker box is on the outside of the house because it's always good weather, you know. It's just got a little trapdoor over it. And here's this freaking ghoul with a flashlight in his mouth, trying to figure out which, which breaker to flip, you know? I'm like, wow. Yeah, wow.

Wow. So I very quickly got a, I put a padlock on that breaker box, but you can't make them too big. You can't snip them pretty easily with the smallest bolt cutters really. Right. And so I thought, gee, now what do I do? Well, I printed out on a sheet, you know, large enough to cover the surface and then put it in plastic so it would last a while. And I taped to the breaker box and it said, breaking in, I'll be aiming for your face. Well, that's what you have to do.

Okay. And guess what, Darren? Over the next year, every neighbor around me got hit for something. They had catalytic converters taken. They had cars stolen. They had breakings to the house. Mine was untouched. Why would that be?

So the lesson is surveillance means very, very little. It's enforcement that matters. Yes. Yes. And the possibility that somebody may come out and shoot you. Yes. Yes. So then I got a third clip on this.

And, you know, it's, well, I'll let this play through when we get to the end. The last word in this clip is the punchline and it kind of takes the wind out of your sales. But it's, it's, it's, there's a great buildup. I'll say, I'll say that. Today I'm excited to announce a new company called Shepard Safety. We're launching satellites to watch over Casa Grande day and night. Our AI will monitor. And another safety name.

I like that. Safety baby, yeah. Where government officials go. where they stop, who they meet with, and when they return home. We've already started collecting and building profiles on your vehicles, spouses' vehicles, children's vehicles, and other visual characteristics. We'll combine that information with publicly available data, Bluetooth signals, advertising IDs, vehicle information, commercial data sources.

There's no difference than the current flock safety capture systems. Local businesses will be invited to join our network, so government officials can continue being protected while shopping, eating, or traveling throughout the city. Some of you might think this sounds invasive. You think? What do you mean, baby? Listen. And you may worry about abuse.

You may worry about unauthorized access, tracking innocent people. We understand those concerns. After all, those are the exact same concerns of all the citizens. Now, this is satire. I would never do this to you. Could I? Probably. But I wouldn't.

Because it's wrong. Just like what you guys are doing to us is wrong. I'm innocent. I don't do anything wrong. You're tracking and uploading my information, my movements every day without my permission. And I don't appreciate it. And I'd like you to stop. I'd like you to do something about it.

I'd like you to put it behind a warrant, just like my phone records. That's what I'm asking you guys to do. Uh-huh. So there's, he builds this terrific case. I thought it was a pretty, pretty smart thing he was saying. Can you imagine like Newsom and AOC and Pritzker and all those big tract every, every movement, wouldn't that be funny? And then he, he undercuts himself twice.

First of all, he says, basically, excuse me, I'm a high road right winger. I would never do something like that because I'm a nice guy. Well, why the hell not? If he can do it, do it. Put some heat on them. And then he ends with just, well, since you're doing it, put it behind a warrant. What a stupid thing to say. No, just destroy it all.

Get it gone. But this is, unfortunately, this is why the right loses so many battles because it's, we're nice guys. And just, you know, just don't take it away all the way. Just kind of fix it. So I don't have to worry about it. Bad idea. Very bad.

Yeah, I mean, the problem comes from the fact, though, that if you're in public, It's completely legal for people to take a photo, video. It's so trying to get this to stop. I don't know there's any way without totally, you know, going in a different direction that is necessarily better. But there's not an easy solution once you've got the technology that people have. Meaning it sounded like he was pulling the whole like, we're going to, you know, post everywhere you're going, which wouldn't be a bad idea. That's what

they used on Elon and Taylor Swift's planes when they were like, hey, I've got your tail number. I'm going to tell people exactly where your plane is, where it's going. Yes, I remember. Now, if you can get that data and do the same thing, yeah, I get it. But I don't know what the solution is because if I want to put a camera outside my house to protect my house as you did you have the right to do that absolutely but does the government have to do that have the right to do that that's a kind of a jump ball but aren't these even governments most of the time or they're just listening here's what they are and the next clip is this is the CEO this guy named garret langley right and this is his TED talk so i figured i better do some some serious deconstruction here and that's what

I've got this guy blathering. And he gave about a 12, 14 minute talk. And of course, it's, first of all, the guy's standing there, and he's exactly what you think he would be. He's got his skinny jeans on. They're about four inches too short. As a friend of mine used to say, he should throw a party in his pants and invite his shoes and invite his pants

down. You know, he's a geek. He's a creepy geek. I mean, you say that lovingly, right? No, no. With complete, total animosity. Really. And so he starts off with this shaggy dog story about how a flock camera being on a street corner near a child abduction saved the day in the kid's life

and blah blah. And is there embellishment in there? I'd be surprised where they're not, but I don't know. He's telling a story. And then he gets into the meat of the matter, which is what people's complaints are, excuse me, about this flock crap. And I take into task at every turn. I hope you like this. And so when I talk to these opponents, and I've got to know, many of them over the years now, they tend to have three big issues with flock. Whether this is constitutional violation, what does this mean to my privacy, and are you building mass surveillance? Let's hit the easy one, constitutional. 30 court cases over the last two years, every single one of them is unanimously said.

This does not violate the Constitution. Why? We're not tracking a person's in real time. We are tracking a fixed location. So I'm going to check the box on Constitution. Bullshit. Okay. friend Minerva chiming in there.

So he says, we're not tracking Pervin in real time and it's a stationary situation, right? That's what he just said. However, maybe I'm going to say two and a half minutes prior to that statement. He said the following. The 911 call comes in. They have this van. So they go into our product and search for a vehicle. They can type in anything they want, white van, spray paint.

Now, what's cool is it turns every single camera into a detective. Now, every camera in the city is looking for this white van. Well, then what do we need police for? You've got every camera's a detective. But every camera's a detective. So all you cops, kiss your jobs goodbye. Because the camera's a detective. Got the children!

The second thing they do is they launch a drone. So just like I'm going to launch the drone up in the air. The drone's flying at 400 feet, 65 miles per hour trying to find this white van. Now, a camera eventually finds that. him, drone closed over. Okay, now what did he just say 17 seconds back? Fixed objects doesn't move. Wait a minute, he's got a drone that's moving at 400 feet high,

65 miles an hour to track a white van. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think I heard a lie. Did you, Darren? Yeah, they'd sound like drones move. Drones move. Yeah, and by the way, the big case is this solving was. somebody had shoplifted something out of a clothing store.

Well, of course you need to get everybody out and about for that. Get everybody out there. I thought we don't put people in jail for that anymore. That's right. Why bother? Especially not in L.A. Unless it was $1,000 pairs. Anything under $9.50, it's okay.

You can take it. Yeah. So we can continue. Privacy. This is actually a really good question because... Stop. Stop. Okay.

Yeah, beep. The next one is the word privacy. but listen, you can't even understand it when he says it because he knows he's lying through his teeth. He won't even enunciate the word correctly. Listen to this again. It's funny. And I want to know, did you get the beep from like in 1980s alarm clock? Exactly. But when we sat there and said, what if we are really successful? So the first thing we asked was what about data ownership? Who should own this data? This is a lot of data. Historically, companies, my competitors, own the data. And then they resell that data for other use cases.

In flocks model, the customer always own the data. So if you live in San Francisco, it's San Francisco's data, not flocks. Okay, so wait a minute. So San Francisco owns the data, not the company. Well, all that does is indemnify you against legal hassles, right? Well, it's on our data. It's in San Francisco. Give them some flags.

So what does that mean to John Q Public? Nothing. It's just good for flock. But he's pitching this as if we should care about that. Well, they're telling you they're only going to. keep the things for 30 days. Where's the guarantee? They don't tell you what they're keeping. Listen to him contradict himself right on that very topic very soon. The second was retention. How long should this data exist? Historically, companies in this industry

stored the data in perpetuity. That seems to me more like liability done an asset. So we delete the data at 30 days. If cities and states have laws that say it should store longer, we do that, shorter we do that. Bullshit. Okay, so we deleted after. 30 days, unless they want it longer, then they can keep it as long as they want. So one lie after another, that's what he's telling. And well, this is the issue like we had with January 6th. Most of those folks were rounded up because they had their cell phone or they drove their vehicle into an area. Oh, yeah. And the biggest problem with any of this stuff is that the policing now turns into a game of who was in the area and we have that.

That wasn't the case before, which some people might be like, well, so what? It's like, well, there's going to be a much higher number of people that are going to get rounded up for things that they didn't do or just because they were in the wrong area at the wrong time. And that's all of a sudden data like, well, look, you were here. It's not good to have this kind of data for tracking. And again, it's up and down every residential street. I would guess if anybody can prove me wrong. If your street, walk up and down it. If there's not one ring camera on your street, let me know because they're all over now.

Of course they are. And people want to know if the black helicopters are coming for you. That may be the case. At least the black drones that we know. covered the Constitution, we covered privacy, now the big one. Surveillance State. You know, look, I think everyone in this room probably has a cell phone. And what if I told you that someone with mediocre computer software skills could build a product that tracks your exact location in real time down to a few feet? Stop.

Google Maps. Stop. Okay. Yeah, everybody does have a cell phone. But you can, as John Dvorak did, and I do quite often myself, you can leave it in a drawer. It's not stitched under your epidermis, okay? You have an option to do that, but you have no option to avoid these goddamn cameras when you're driving or walking down the street. Big, big difference. But Bimbo Boy doesn't bring that up here.

No, he doesn't. Well, because that doesn't go with what he wants, which is... Lots of sales pitch, yeah, of cameras, lots of... I understand why people buy into it. It's because there's already anxiety. I mean, again, this goes back to a lot of people who don't have an attention span, who are easily spun up. We saw this during COVID.

We saw the people that were getting into physical altercations or taking golf clubs to your cars because you're not wearing a mask, man. Yeah. So, but his rationale is you're already being surveilled and spied upon by your cell phone. So don't complain about it if we do it too. Right. Blamey's not wrong. Well, yeah, but again, with the cell phone, you have an option to at least stop that if you want. You don't have to take that with you everywhere you go.

And he's going to get into more crap, but something else on that subject as well as far as he talks about cops. And you could see he got a lot of cops to say nice things about his company there. And there's this mythology about police work. And, you know, I know a lot about cops. I have cops in my family. And they'll be the first ones to tell you. What you're seeing on 24 and NCIS is absolute crap. Kiefer Sutherland does not arrive at the last minute and save you from death.

That almost never, ever happens. The bulk of police work is they find out you're dead and they come out and they draw a chalk mark around your body and they take a report. They do a lot of paperwork. A lot of paperwork. That's really, really what it's about. no camera is going to stop you from being killed. And proof of that is there are thousands and thousands of hours on YouTube and every other platform of people being assaulted, hit with bricks, crowbar stabbed all over the place.

And they're all on camera, aren't they? But they're still injured and dead. Hey, we report all the time about how many people are shot in Chicago in a week. And then the number that have been arrested? Oh, nothing. it's usually 30 to 50 people shot how many people have been arrested nobody yeah but there are cameras everywhere while chicago they got rid of these shot spotters because you don't want to know where the the shots are coming from no that's bad that's bad data for some reason i guess oh this guy sells

shot spotters too i think yeah well then get those in every town yeah that tracks your exact location in real time down to a few feet because all of you use google maps and uber and any device that has access to location. When you decrease surveillance and in effect decrease safety. Bullshit. Where's the proof of that? Decrease surveillance, decrease safety. Huh?

Where's the proof of that there, Garrett? Yeah, what is the, yeah, I would love to see the data or why you're saying just because you're being watched. So anybody out there want to, you know, have a camera on you 24-7 because it'll make you safer? I don't think most people want, although, again, to be fair, there's a lot of people that are so anxiety ridden and unable to make a decision on their own that maybe they would want. Like so if their house starts on fire, somebody sees them on the camera and is like, yeah, you might want to leave the house right now. It's on fire. You're still sitting watching your iPad.

Get up. No, I'm watching my iPad. I've got better things to do. What do I do? Yeah. It impacts certain parts of the community more than others. If you... Wait, wait, wait.

Is this going to tell you that it impacts the poor community? Of course. You got it, brother. That's what's coming next. Oh, yeah. But the guy, he's smart, but he's not that smart because he makes some really idiotic arguments in this next segment. If you are affluent in South Africa,

you have nine foot walls. You have private security guards. There are 600,000. and private security yards in South Africa more than the military and police combined. So if you are affluent in South Africa, it is a beautiful place to live. You are crime-free.

No, you're not. If you're not affluent, crime is simply the cost of being alive. Now, if you transpose that to a place like Tokyo, beautiful city, there's a few dozen homicides a year. Whether you go to work at 2 a.m. or 8 a.m., you feel safe. It just doesn't. Stop, stop. Why would that be?

Why is Tokyo so safe? Tokyo is not paved with cameras. What do you think that is? Well, it's got a completely different culture that actually punishes... Yes. Bingo, ding, ding, ding. Ding. Criminals.

Ding, ding, ding. That's the difference. Let's look at it to pick something that's not on the other side of the world. El Salvador, it's not that far away, right? That was, I think, listed as the most or one. It may be definitely top five most dangerous places on Earth. And then Bikaley came along and built his super prison and rounded up. up all the dirt bags and said, that's where you're going to stay now. And now I think it's one of

the safest places, certainly in Latin America, if not around the globe. Gee, prove positive. And he didn't do with cameras. Yeah, well, Tokyo net net says does have cameras everywhere, which is probably true now. But again, it's a different culture. So it's, that's the reason. I mean, here in Chicago, well, I'm right outside. I like to say, because otherwise people have no idea where I am. But I am right outside of Crook County, but this is Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago and what they think, you know, about crime and it kind of just is a good little primer to kind of correspond with this guy. We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already tried that. And we've ended up with the largest prison population in the world

without solving the problems of crime and violence. The addiction, unjails, and incarceration in this country, we have moved past that. It is racist, it is immoral, it is unholy, and it is not the way to drive violence down. Racist,

immoral, and unholy to put violent criminals in jail. But no, if we have cameras everywhere, Larry, it's going to be fine. You're safe. It'll be fine. Everybody will be good.

Everyone will behave. There's cameras all over Chicago and people are still getting shot all the time. Yeah, of course. And nobody's getting arrested. Why is that? I don't know. Whether you go to work at 2 a.m. or 8 a.m.,

you feel safe. It just doesn't matter. And so America is this like very interesting conundrum in the middle. We have the law enforcement infrastructure. We need to be safe. Yet we haven't made to me the most important decision as a society,

which is that safety should not be a privilege. Safety should just be a right. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Now, there's his big statement because what this guy is angling for, really, I believe this,

is a constitutional amendment to add safety to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, really. And it's complete crap. You know, this guy's just horrible. And this stuff has to go away. And that's what he's angling. And in later iterations,

or posts, I should say, of what he does. And actually now saying it's safety is a fundamental right. So people, they'll be demanding their rights, the right to safety. Give me flock cameras. That's what this is about. It's the pitch. Well, he's talking about where you feel safe. Yeah.

It very much depends on the culture. There are places in the United States that you still feel very safe to walk up and down Main Street. The United States was, any main street was pretty safe 50 years ago. Not like now. It's changed a lot. No, not shy rack in New York and L.A. And you're very familiar with New York and L.A. And I'm pretty familiar with Chicago.

And it's not a picnic. I mean, there's still nice places in the city to go. But, you know, his argument about, oh, if you're rich, you're safe and happy. Not true. And indicative of that, there's a guy, not a dumb guy. Steve Wynn, probably the most influential guy ever to fool around in Vegas and the most successful. He had a big casino before he passed away there. Yeah.

He had a big, I don't know if he was dead. Is he dead? Really? Yeah, I think he passed away a year or two ago. Oh, okay. Well, he built a house in Beverly Hills on three acres, 27,000 square feet. And I think he spent $110 million on this thing,

which he could afford, you know, beautiful. It's just crazy, spectacular stuff. And, you know, they put it on the market 10 years ago for around that price. And it finally sold for 45 million. And that's why, because you can live in the greatest place up on the hill with nine-foot walls like Garrett Langley said. But eventually you have to go south or decrease your altitude and move among the populace and the Vox populace. And if what you're seeing is razor wire and bars and people living in tents in the street and attacking and hijacking, carjacking, you're not going to want to live even in the big mansion on the hill anymore. And that's what happens.

That's what happens. And that is exactly why they do it. They're the concept, which came out a few years ago that really made some headlines. I mean, if you're paying attention, if you're not, then you're not going to see it. but the whole concept of the 15-minute city they called it, where they wanted everybody to live in the highly populated areas. And you, well, you ask yourself why? Well, because that's already voting the way they want, you know, the Democrats.

So it doesn't come on in. We're going to control every aspect of your life, which is, as we've learned for the last 19 years on no agenda, what a lot of this is about, which is, I don't know. They say safety, Larry, but what they really mean. mean as well freedom goes away of course yes and before we get to a very extended donation segment people love john c devorek as they should there's a couple things i just wanted to hit on the iran war and uh then we can get to that this is a cnbc clip talking about a poll which uh we can bring you those numbers just to set some sanity to this, which I don't know if he could really do that anymore.

Sanity is such a loss. It's a dangerous. Trump was on his way to Dover, Delaware this morning when he stopped to talk to reporters, insisting that he has the support of the American people for the war in Iran and the effort to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Here's what he said. Well, Americans aren't against the war. The poll just came out.

Americans don't want to have gasoline prices, but they're not against the war. That just came out loud and clear in a poll. Nobody wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. The president also made additional threats to Iran this morning on social media, writing, from this point forward, anytime the Islamic Republic of Iran shoots at a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, whether it be by missile, rocket, drone, or any other device or weapon, the United States will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant, including those located next to or in the capital city of Tehran.

And before we get to the poll numbers, as far as targeting the infrastructure, this is what Disney owned ABC News, what they had to say, how they framed this. President Trump responding with a stark warning that for every Iranian strike on a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant. inside Iran. Deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure is a potential war crime under international law. And this morning, the real cost of the war is hitting home. Eighteen American service members killed so far and 100 wounded this month alone. Now, the very interesting thing, there is the, but one, the sound effects are always great. Yes. And I never really even paid much attention to that

before listening to Adam and John, and then it's like, you can't unhear it. Those nap pops. Yes. And the, oh, it might be a war crime. Well, they were careful, which is good, because targeting the infrastructure is not a war crime

if there is a military reason behind it, a military necessity behind it. And part of that is, if you're going to be targeting a place with a bunch of civilians that, you know, you kind of want to give them a heads up, but that's fairly easy in the world we have now. Yeah. I mean, you can put out the word, you could drop pamphlets, you can do all sorts of things that are like, yeah, you don't want to be anywhere near this at this point.

So it's not a war crime. I mean, really, nobody would ever win a war if you're like, well, you can never hit their power infrastructure or bridges or anything they need to fight back. It doesn't make any sense. But the poll that Donald Trump was talking about, I think it's interesting because polling is greatly dependent upon the way the questions were phrased. Sure. A lot of times, you can get people to say almost anything that you want in a poll.

There's no question about it. This poll that Trump was talking about was a mcgloire. Pollan poll, which John McLaughlin works for Trump. So he is the in-house pollster. With that said, I've followed his stuff over the last 10 years or so. And he has a pretty good track record. So I'm not totally discounting what he has to say. But you always have to point out where the data is coming from because it's so easy to manipulate a poll.

sure. The questions that were asked agree or disagree, Iran should be, should not be allowed to block, attack, mine, or extort ships in the Strait of Hormuz. 72% of the people agree, only 18% of the people disagree. Agree or disagree. The United States must finish the job in Iran once and for all. 61% agree, 28% disagree. Last would be on a different topic, but

only agree or disagree, only United States citizen should be allowed to vote in elections. 82% agree. 12% disagree. And finally, along with that, should vote voters should be required to show a photo ID when casting a ballot. 78% agree, 17% disagree, which shows you if those numbers are even close to being correct, just how far out of touch the Democrat Socialist of America and the other far left really is.

And if they don't pass that save act, look out, baby. I know. It's all, it's all fake and gay. It is all thinking yet. Politics overall is always, but... Well, before we get too far afield from Iran, I hope I said to this clip. It says China sells weapons to Iran.

Do you have that in the era? Oh, yeah, this raised an interesting point you might dig. President Xi told you that China would not give or sell Iran any weapons. And there's a new report that Iran's about to get 400 rocket launchers. from China going through Pakistan to Iran. Well, that would be surprising. I mean, things like that happened, but that would be surprising. He told me very strongly he wouldn't partake, but he knows that'd be quite disappointed.

Now, they left out the critical part in the audio that just didn't come up, but this audio appeared under a headline, Darren, that said, China to arm Iran with hundreds of man pads. What's a man pad? That sounds like a really bad product. I thought these might only be deployed by the Dylan Mulvaney division during select days of the month. Wow. And they're only good for one use only and must be properly disposed, right? And somewhere, Hegseth is having a stroke, right? So that man pads.

Really? What a funny name. Okay. And it says that the contract covers the purchase of between 300 and 400 man portable air defense systems. So these things look like kind of like a bazoo. I guess. But I'm wondering if Xi is screwing with Trump and Hegeseth just

naming the device a man pad. Or maybe there's a shadow war department. It's being run by Rachel Dick Levine. Who can say? Who can say? There is no way to know. That is the issue. And the word from Donald Trump

was he talked to not only she but it was also Putin was included that both of them agreed not to be helpful to Iran in any way, shape, or form. Whether that's true or not, man, that's impossible to really know. Yeah. You know, that is, I don't know how you, you know,

how you can prove that one way or the other. But bizarre stuff going on in the world. This is why. There always is, man. Thank God. It's good for the show. This is why no way. agenda can't go away. There's always something going on.

And no agenda is. It always has been a value for value proposition. And very simple time, talent, and treasure. The way to support the show is to be a producer. There are no listeners. And you can hit people in the mouth. That's easy. You can tell them about the show. You can, that would be your, you know, time. That's part of that. Your talent. Maybe you make end of show mixes and we have a few for today, including one, Sir, Chris Wilson coming out of retirement. Very exciting. Very exciting. And there's a few that have no AI in it. So people are going to want to stick around and listen to that. And of course, the treasure part is when you

send in a donation to the show. But part of the talent as well is the artwork. And man, I can't believe they're going to let me be the guy to talk about and pick the art and criticize. The artists are probably shaking in their boots. Yeah, let them. The last episode, 1889, winning art from Francisco Scaramanga. Oh, well done, Scaramanga. Well done. He is the babe guy.

Yes, he is. Just a beautiful piece of art of John C. DeVorak looking, quite pleased being in the middle of a bunch of hot angel babes. Now, if I had to, if I had to find any fault, if I had to, you know, criticize with my inner JCD, it would be, ah, the chicks are playing football. It should have been sumo, yeah, they should have been wrestling. But otherwise, just absolute beautiful art.

And Francisco Scaramanga, I mean, he knows. He is the AI guy when it comes to. images and videos. The videos especially, his little 15 second bond type movie clips are... Oh, they're extraordinary. He's done something that run longer, I'd say two, three minutes of like...

He does a... He's like a specialty of sort of Italian-looking movies from maybe the 50s. He has a, you know, that sepia look, that tone. And they're just dynamite. I don't know how he does. Some of that stuff is just magic

as far as keeping characters in, from frame to frame. The old AIs, it would be a totally different person if the camera moved and came back. But now it's almost like magic. This is where the AI is really going to be good. Like, hey, do you want to watch Friends, but you really don't like whichever actress? Well, you could just swap in a new one.

Yeah. That's going to be what Scaramongo will be doing. It's like magic. And in the newsletter, I did laugh at the Tyler Brown piece, which was the book that just said bull crap, which very much in the JCD vein. And I don't think anybody can hear bull crap at this point and not think of JCD. Yes.

And as I said, the treasure coming in today, a lot of donations. And Larry and I understand, finally what it means when you say the spreadsheet got blown out. Yeah, staring at that. Whoa. Again, guy with one eye here, so with the challenges on here, and then we'll have to try the, I am not going to be as fast with the clips as the podfather,

especially since I've got to have that on the side screen because the only way I can read the spreadsheet is on the big screen. But we do have a bunch of people. to think today starting with Matthew Hosko who came in from Orlando, Florida with $1,088.33. Oh, that's magic numbers and JCD magic numbers. Indeed, they are. He says in the morning, John, Adam, and

Mimi, I'm sorry that this is what got me to finally donate, so I thought it was only appropriate to make it an instant night. I was adding in and out. I wish we had in and outs around here. Oh, yeah, they're great. And was order number 3. I knew it was time, but I didn't know that Buzzkill had left us. I was catching up on the greatest podcast in the universe and started playing 1888 while working. That's how I found out the sad news. Please knight me, Sir Matt, of the flight levels.

To quote John with my favorite of his catchphrases, John, you really are dynamite. To the Dvorak family, you are in my prayers, Adam. Congratulations to your family. Cleo is a gift from God. Fair Skies and Tailwinds, JCD, Matt Posgill. Well, thank you, Matt. Thank you, Matt.

Coming in next, Alex Mandel with $1,000. And there is a different note, so I click a different button. All the magic just kind of happens. Oh, isn't that cool? Sure, if it works. Wait, I shouldn't have said that. Sorry, don't. Strike that.

He says, Dear No, Agenda, I've been debating doing an instantite for a while, and I kept putting it off because I wasn't sure if it was really worth it. I was okay living life as a douchebag and solely hitting others in the mouth. After all, you were just some guys that I listened to at work and in the car. Now that John has passed, I know just how wrong I was and how important both John and Adam have been in my life, an unreplaceable staple of entertainment, information, and stories for the better part of the last decade. love you both, mean it and sending love to the Dvorak family

and all of the other products of the no agenda show. Jingles, Alec Jones, chemtrails, frogs gay. Oh, that has to be. Yeah. Let's see, frogs gay. Can I make this bigger? Maybe. Frogs gay.

I mean, I see there's a lot of, this is going to be such a learning curve. You know, I can probably just search frogs and really Adam is Adam is like a symphony conductor with all these things. I don't know how he does this. I don't either. It's like magic. It really is.

I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay. Adam was getting pretty good though with his Alex Jones voice too, I will say. Yes, yes. And sure Alex says, please call out Chuck the trucker. Now that's an interesting name as well.

Yeah. Dushbag. Oh, that was the callout? Yeah, for Chuck the trucker was a douchebag. So come on, Chuck the trucker, get on. Yeah. And for the round table, a bowl of red Texas-style chili from Green Bay, Wisconsin. That I'm still scratching my head, Alex, but I'll go along with you.

The red Texas-style chili and a protein powder white Russian. So I guess he's getting healthy while getting his drink on. Not a bad idea. Sir, Alex of the Floyd. River Valley and we thank you for your support of the best damn podcast in the universe. Mm-hmm. Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits came in with $8.88 and $88 and just says, Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits, JCD, you will be missed.

And yeah, that is an understatement. Yeah. Do you want to take the next one? Sure. We've got Sir Harrison of the Rednecks from Beaumont, Mississippi. MS is Mississippi, huh? 88, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and let's see, what is he saying?

Switcheroo, 500 of this goes to Sir Gopher Gold. God bless the Dvorak family. God bless the Curry family. You guys have been such a staple of my amygdala shrinkage diet. Love you. Mean it. NJ. N.J.

N.K. Commodore Sir Harrison of the Rednecks. You've got. It is magic. It is. Zerproteus, Newark, Delaware, 888, 88, and also no jingles, no karma. Well, thank you. Yes.

Thank you, sir. Give a little double up. You've got. That's it. Karma. Yeah. Tammy and Spiro. Oh, I'm sorry.

Go ahead. Tammy and Spiro from St. John, Indiana, 526.36.36. from Tammy and Sparrow, longtime listeners, two infrequent contributors. We love you and JCD. God rest his soul and good luck in the future. And again, no jingles. I'm loving these people. Makes it easy, huh?

You've got. It's easy when it's only on the same one, then I don't have to find it. It's just there. Yeah. Robert Weber from Tributo, Can. Canyon, California. I know that place. Towards the resurrection slash reincarnation of John,

whichever gets him back, he was such an important part. Someone, a fellow cranky old man can relate to. It'll be sad to hear new episodes without his voice. We echo that. But he was cranky in such a good way. He was. He really was.

And, you know, I was thinking, I thought a lot about him. He was an acquired taste. You know, the more you heard, the more you liked, really. And I think something about John that he had that so few people have. And I'm going to say he's in the entertainment business because he was for 18 years. John was devoid of schick. When you heard him talking, it was exactly who he is.

You know what I mean? Very few performers, what you hear publicly is not what he's saying across the dinner table or when he's shaving his face in the morning. You know what I mean? It's kind of, there's a touch of a put on in there. But John was ridiculously honest and authentic, you know? Absolutely. And there was no jingles in there.

It was Tammy and Spiro were $526.36. Robert Weber, $500. Oh, I forgot the amounts. You got. Double up. Karma. Boom. This is called two old guys get used to reading a spreadsheet.

Exactly. You want to do the next? Sure, this would be Tim Hedrick, I guess. West Bradford, Pennsylvania, $500. Hi, Adam. I wanted to say, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, John. I can't imagine what you're going through along with his family. I initially thought the news was fake,

or that I read the newsletter, incorrectly, when it went out about John's passing. I'm a little late to the no-agenda party, but I was glad to find you guys when I did. Your chemistry was so great and complimented each other so well. Well, I really don't know how you'd move forward. I don't envy your position because naturally people will be mad or complain about whatever is next to work together with you.

I actually bought a roadcaster during COVID and tried to do something with my wife. I even figured out how to clip stuff and have sound effects. It was fun and exciting because it was a new challenge for me. I've owned, operated this auto body business since 2012 and it sucks. Insurance companies suck, yes, they do. Every day feels like an uphill battle. That's why you guys were great. I could get real news from you guys and then go home and tell my family to chill out about the doom and gloom.

I've since listed my podcasting stuff on eBay, but would really like to get back into doing something with it. I'm kind of an idiot. You had mentioned the hyper-local podcast thing before? Is there somewhere I can find more information about it? Where I live, we have a trans mayor who says some wild things on the internet. that's Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Good luck with everything moving forward. I wish you the best, Tim.

This guy is so brave, doing a podcast with your wife. Adam Curry pulled it off. A lot of people that could lead to divorce. I wouldn't try it. That just would not be good. My wife would not want to spend that much time talking to me. And then the things that I would find entertaining, you'd get that look like, no, no, that's not for public air.

As far as the hyper local stuff, I mean, it's just cover your area. I mean, that's the beauty of it. You don't have to go out there with, hey, we're going to be covering the whole auto body business or we're doing this. Just do a podcast, name it about your town and start small and the beautiful thing. If you want to kind of browse or comb for possible listeners, you know, that silly, no, what is it called? next door platform might be a way.

I mean, just about every town in the country, I think, is listed on there. You could, you know, plant some seeds there as a beginning. Maybe get some stickers or put some, you know, the local grocery stores here. I mean, we have a couple that are like the old-fashioned grocery stores. Oh, nice. They still have like the peg, you know, board where you can just put. That's it. If you live in a small town, it shouldn't be hard or just walk door to door and put a little fire

and like listen to the podcast. Go here. Go to get a podcasting 2.0 app. Either way, let us know if you start that up, Tim. Because, I mean, if you need any help, I can help you up with that kind of stuff. Coming in, no shingles there, so. You've got. Karma. Next on the list, Jay Kelly Rapier from Frankfurt, Kentucky, which is $500 was a check.

no note, so double it up. Thank you, Jay Kelly. Next is Victor Greg from Corvallis, Oregon is that. Okay, yeah, Corvallis, I'll buy that. I mean, I know people every now and then were like, John can't get the names right. I'm going to be so much worse at getting the names of towns right. I need to cheat.

I need to look them up. Have Grock give me an explanation. the pronunciation on it. Victor comes in with 40940 in the morning condolences from Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley. I started reading John's columns and seeing him on panels at tech shows during the 1980s. I met him more than once prowling the aisles. He was always good for a hello when I saw him and no gingles, no karma. So, Okay. You've got

It looks like we've got Quinterox, Inc. of Bradenton, Florida. $350.93.93. Goodbye John donation. He was like, the father I always admired but never met. Wow, there's a statement. The amount of people that were touched by John, and I get it. I mean, we only had a few emails going back and forth, but was a part of your life for well over a decade. And I remember going back to him giving Leo crap, which was always the best part of Twit. And when he did the, it had to be cranky geeks where he would throw the little thing like the card like David Letterman was. And I'm like, oh, it's okay to emulate things and make fun of them. and rip off the bits from other people and kind of take it and make it your own.

And you get to, as somebody pointed that out on one of those last two JCD episodes that, you know, he didn't know you, but you knew him. There's no doubt about it. So people, I didn't know him. It's like, but you did. Sure. It seems like he was the guy we hear in each one of those episodes that we had over the last 19 years, as you said, authentic. which is one of the biggest compliments Larry ever gave me early on was like, well, your podcast is authentic.

And if you can do that, that is going to get you way further than trying to pretend that you're something else. Good idea. Ray Javier coming in from Davis, California with $350.50. And 58 cents says in the morning, my wife and I were shocked when we heard of John's passing. He became the father figure we didn't know we needed. We've been listening to every note.

Agenda episode since 2021 and will always cherish what we had for twice a week. Sorry for being a douche for so long. Don't have to give me a deduishing you guys put on incredible performances week in and week out. And the value generated was immeasurable. Whenever we drove up and down 80 and saw Albany Hill, we always wondered which house might be Johns and thought it was so cool to hear no agenda live while passing by. Our deepest condolences to DeVorek and the No Agenda family. And that comes from Ray.

You've been deduced. And you can take the next one there, please. All right. This is from Matt S. from Rosedale, New York. 343.75. Dear Adam and the JCD family, may you celebrate the memory of life of a truly unique man. The stories, deconstruction, and wisdom he shared. Made us feel as if we were all part of your family. I was out at a playground with my three-year-old son when I saw the news. It hit me with a profound sadness. I can't think you both for all the years of the information you dispensed. It helped shape my worldview, which I would never find anywhere else. Never underestimate your impact on us all. From my wife, our little guy, and I, we want to send our love to JCD's family and friends, especially Adam, as this must

be incredibly hard. Thank you for turning me on to the show when I lived in Hoboken, New Jersey, Sir smokes a lot, now in New Hampshire. Sir DJ Fuji and our dear friend who left us early and is with JCD, Super Steve. He is a knight, but don't remember his name. This is my first donation. As longtime listener, please dedush me. You guys helped get me through the chaos of COVID.

No jingles, just five second pause to remember the cranky old man's voice. I'll miss hearing it eternally grateful Matt S, now a family man in Queens. Okay, so a deduishing and then a five second pause. You've been deduished. Then E&J Electra coming in from Colorado Springs. Colorado with $333.83. And there's an attach note. That is a beautiful area.

I haven't been there since I was 10 years old in a place called the Broadmoor with my parents. And now I probably can't afford it because I'm a podcaster. Just a beautiful area. And this was a very interesting donation note because it comes in, which looks like it's an invoice from his company. But instead of invoice, it says donation note with a reference of 333. and the whole bit. And he says ad spot, but it's not really an ad spot. Howdy, this is Justin Robinson with E&J Electric,

your independent electrical contractor, proudly servicing Colorado Springs in the surrounding areas. Why am I yelling? I don't get to pick my customer, so I thought that it would be nice. If I could occasionally work with the fine people in the no agenda community, find us at ENJ Electric.com. That's Echo November Juliettelectric.com.

shoot us in ITM and we'll get you hooked up. He says, note, I've been telling myself that I need to get this donation out before one of you actually finds an exit strategy. Dot, dot, dot. My last donation was a handwritten note with one crisp hundo, read by John back when you would read everything above 50 bucks.

I'm not on the internet much. My only knowledge of John was no agenda. I've never seen video clips of him and have only seen a handful of pictures. Well, you should go look for some of the videos. They're great. This was a theater of the mind that I really enjoyed having listened to him for 15 plus years. My brain was constantly filling in the blanks.

It's nice to hear everyone's stories as it helps you paint a more complete picture of JCD. Well, thank you very much, Justin. It is appreciated. You want to do the next one there, Larry? Yes, we have Charles Neal from Austin, Texas, 3333. words fail me as I try to express my full appreciation for the show and my sadness for your loss. Maybe that's John's nudging me to keep it short. I wish I hadn't waited so long to reach my knighthood.

But there's no time like the present to correct past mistakes. Henceforth, I'd like to be known as Sir Gopher Glory. Accounting below. Please hit me with a mac and cheese jingle and a big bowl of it at the round table. Thank you for your courage. I'd like my night name again to be Sergo for gold. You slaves can get used to

Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Maconzie and cheese. Catter melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. There's so many clips on here. I can't believe how many mac and cheese clips there are. Really? Hot Father, how do you know which one's which? Chap Williams coming in from Edmonton.

Oklahoma, $333.33. via a check with, I guess, no note. So no note, no jingles. And we can double up. Yeah. You've got. Double up. Karma.

We have Vince Farrow. Wow. No, no Andres. Just, this is a truly anonymous one, I guess. 315.85. I guess that's parts on. own the epitome of that. I guess so.

You've got Karma. Then we got Was Night of the Beying Coonhound from Burlington, Connecticut. Oh, not far from Larry's.

$288 even says Thank you, JCD. I miss you, but my hope is to see you in heaven. That's sweet. No jingles, no karma. You've got

Karma Andrea Ludlam from Holmes Beach, Florida to 80.74 RIP John. You've got Scarmla. Oh no, the next one

We need Adam for the reading of Sir Remko Knight of Tivisa. Tevisa, I guess. Ooh, look at this point. Nice. Pairness, Rotterdam, and Sir Remco Knight of Tivisa. And from Pian Baroness, Rotterdam, as John's once said, well, John said it was penis, Rotterdam once.

Okay, that I believe. No doubt. Because that's exactly probably what I would have said as well. Of course. He says, I had no idea that a man I never met and listened to more than my girlfriend. Oh, don't tell her that, as she herself pointed out, would call. my eyes to leak this often. Dame Tuthola and I have put John's picture on the wall of our office for guidance and much-needed

wisdom. And there's a message in Dutch for Adam that I'm not even going to try. And to Mimi and the kids, stays strong. And thank you for all of your courage. Well, thank you, Sir Remko. And I'm sorry for butchering your name and probably city. You've got. Karma.

Okay, Manuka Gold from Hudson, Florida, $250. From the Manuka Gold family, just a donation to keep supporting the show. We hope Adam has a nice break. And a reminder that Code Freedom for 20% off is still active at manukgold.com to celebrate America on her big 250th birthday. Well, thank you. I mean, they actually acknowledged that they knew we would be the Yahoo's reading. They donated that. Is very much appreciate it.

I hear their stuff's really good. I'll have to get me some. Yes. And coming in next, CJ Schmock from Nantucket, $250 with the note that says, worst exit strategy ever. You will be missed.

And yeah, this is certainly not the best exit strategy. No. Darcy Morris of Hanover, Massachusetts, 238. This news sneakily hit me in the fields. Sorry to hear about JCD.

Sending 88.88 plus 50 for each of the three JMOCs uttered since my last donation. Take care, Darcy. You've got... Double up. Karma. Then Patrick D. Buote from... What's it?

Musta... Let's see. Musca Dubot. Musca Du Boat. Harbor? Is that it? Nova Scotia. So I know it's Canada, so at least I've got that. He says, as I sit at the computer with a heavy heart,

I struggle to type my thoughts and feelings. Both John and Adam have become mentors to me over the last six years or so. John was one of those people you could only come across every so often in life. I always admired his ability to articulate his opinions in such a clear and concise manner while keeping his cool for the most part. Oh yeah, there's audio clips. whether I was hearing about another unique career he had or the clever use of a word I had never heard of,

John never ceased to impress me. I had hoped one day to meet him in person in a way I feel like I had already done so through this amazing show. Rest in peace, JCD, sincerely, Patrick, and he came in with 236, 36, and I missed that because of the name of the city, probably. Yeah. And you can do the next. One, four, four.

David Powers from Bang Kapi. I don't know where this is, Darren. The initials are T.S. for the nation. Thailand? What's T.H? I don't know. T.H. I should know.

Shame on me. David says, Hey, y'all, sending all of the love and my sincerest condolences to amazing listening and reading so many wonderful accounts about John on N.A. and X. And the positive impact he had on so many of us for so many years.

There's so much I want to say, but in honor of John will do my best to keep it short. I've been hitting people in the mouth for years, but this is my first monetary donation, so please deduce me. I would also like to ask you for all of your unknow-agentious family to help in getting my YouTube channel monetized. I'm getting there, and every bit counts. I've spent the last year traveling to different cities,

mostly Bangkok, Thailand, and filmed POV walks and motorbike rides partially as a way to document these cities during these times. but also to give people from other countries a glimpse into what other people's day-to-day lives look like. They're great to have in the background while you're working for the ambient environment, but there's always near things to see if you watch. I have plans to travel more when I finish my Thai language studies, as well as new series for the channel exploring cuisines throughout Southeast Asia and beyond.

Please check out my long format videos on YouTube, Go Slow Faster, and short form videos on TikTok go. Go. Slow. Faster. And IG go slow faster. I also need karma. I'm sorry. I also need jobs karma. And dealer's choice of a clip featuring John, please.

Love and Lit David Pappy Powers. You've got. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Karma. Coincidence? I think not. Hey, that actually work?

I noticed in the troll room. I totally forgot to count the trolls. Uh-oh. How can I forget to count the trolls? Oh, no, train wreck. Right now, we've got 539 people listening with a peak of 888. I mean, thank you to everybody. Yes, thank you.

For coming out to hear us try not to totally destroy Adams intellectual property all in one quick afternoon. It is very much appreciate it. got those jingles and what are we got next? Michael Flynn, I think, from Spokane? Or Spokane, as I say. Yeah, Spokane, Washington, $218.89 in remembrance of John C. Dvorak. Then Clancy Galliano with parts unknown. $210.60. Followed John since the PC Magazine days, early 90s to me.

I'm still in shock and tear up when I think about it. The first six hours of tribute were rough. I get that. I'm thankful for the seven-hour plus hours of clips to make me laugh. Clint C. Galliano Realtor in South Louisiana. It's like I see with the, with JC, I didn't know. I knew it was going to hit me at some point. But it was just at the end of the pre-show.

And again, I know that was him having some fun with me. Sure. Jonathan Reisman, Chesterfield, Missouri, to $10.12. So sad to hear that JCD is no longer with us. My deepest condolences to Adam the Devorick family. Now my wife and I listen in twice a week. Thank you for all you do from Cote... Oh, I just skipped the line. I'm sorry. My deepest consolace is to Adam, the DeVorec family, and everyone else who receives so much value from John and his work. then John Wyden from Codiac, Alaska.

$200 says continued heartfelt prayers for the Dvorak family. My sons introduce me to the show. Now my wife and I listen twice a week. Thank you for all you do all the way from Alaska. That must be fun. Linda Duparkin of Castle Rock, Colorado. Oh, look at this. No, no, Linda Lupakin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Darren and Larry, thanks for stepping in. big shoes to fill. Jobs Karma. For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImagemakersInck.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Good old Joe Biden. That's exactly how he normally speaks to. Yeah, I was expecting Hillary, but that was even better. It's like in all random day. That's the fun. Then Martin Benes came in with 199.02 with no jingles, no karma. So that is very much appreciated.

I think we missed one on the other one as well. You've got. Dame Stacy of Yellowstone County and the Black Hills. 198.91 in the morning. There's nothing I can say that already hasn't been said. John added so much to this world and will be greatly missed. Love and prayers to you all, love and light, Dame Stacey of Yellowstone County, and the Black Hills. Then we have Amanda from Minnesota, Minnesota nuts with 198.

Donating has been on my I'll get to it list. I never imagine it would be under these circumstances with deepest condolences. John was truly a fabulous product toasting his legacy with a terrific Kirkland wine. Cheers and thank you, Amanda from Minnesota. And yeah, JCD, I know he cost me money. My wife doesn't even like drink wine, but anytime he had a wine tip, it was like, I got to go to Costco. We can give him his gift.

I'm like, okay, it's always costing me money. Here's one from Sturrugelicious, 197, 9. IT morning. My deepest condolence is to Mimi, Adam, and all the no agenda family. John will truly be missed. NJNK. Sir, Stregalicious.

Yeah, I said it right. Stregalicious. And coming in next, Mark Cramm with 188. 88, says Adam, Mimi, and family in the morning. My son-in-law, hit me in the mouth while he was recovering with us after having his appendix removed while on a business trip in 2020. that's no fun to begin with, but on a trip, that's worse. Haven't missed a show since.

Thank you for all the years of love and laughter. May God bless you and the show. John will be missed, but his DNA will always remain in the enterprise. It's a good way to think about it. That is. That's a cool phrase. Mark Cram, 188.88. No, we went on.

Oh, no. I'm sorry. You're on the Duke. I'm on the Duke. Oops, my mess. Duke of San Francisco, US of course, 16699. The Duke of San Francisco is mourning the passing of JCD. As Commodore of the San Francisco Bay,

I declare a meetup at the Duke of Edinburgh in Cupertino at 533 p.m. The Duke.com. Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California came in with 12863, with no note, which is real, I guess it's the no-none. note that we do the double up karma for. Yeah, yes.

You've got Karma. Mark McGoff, Benson, North Carolina. Rest in peace, John. Sincere condolences to Mimi, Adam, family, and friends started listening during these scandemic.

Going to miss hearing John Weekly. God bless. And the way I kind of thought about it earlier that no agenda had this story. a few weeks back of the girl. She had her license, but when the flight instructor jumped out mid-flight and was just like, you know what to do? That's kind of how I feel today.

Lisa Mikalski coming in with 1189. John put the sea in counting cars on the Zephyr, Costco wine recommendations, and cynicism mixed with charm. John put the C in cold reads and mispronunciations in the donation segments that made me smile. John put the C in Clue and a clever one was with the January 12th, 2025 horrible tip of the day, which was a simple search revealed his true age. I've known since that that something didn't add up. Maybe he was trying to tell us something. Most importantly, John put the C in courage as in thank you for your courage to

Adam, Mimi, J.C., Jay, and Brennan. The show Thursday was full of laughs and tears. Thank you for opening up your hearts, memories and raw emotions to the whole of Gitmo Nation and allowing us to share that with you. My deepest sympathies to you all as you take on the challenge to carry on John's legacy. Well, thank you, Lisa. And I didn't realize it must have been that true people search that John recognized. It is real age was there we could have known.

Wow. We would have just looked them up. So easy. Valerie Ray of Plano, Texas, 1169, and no message, no jingles. Just thank you, Valerie. You've got karma. That also goes for Samuel Thomas Parts unknown with 10569. And Denver.

Cramer. Deborah Keenum, 105, 35. I eagerly got in my car Friday morning, ready to listen to the No Agenda show on my way to work. I heard the opening and cried. I've been a listener for over two years. JCD brought humor and wisdom. He will be missed, but he impacted so many lives.

Absolutely true. Thank you. Andrew Grasso of Mindiola, New York. My wife talked me into buying a starter home down the the street from her parents and around the corner from her sisters and aunt. Oh, this sounds like everybody loves Raymond. The type of home and neighborhood is not what I wanted for my life. But now I've begun to understand that we will never be leaving with deference to John C.

in his memory, please knight me, Sir Grasso, reluctant night of Mineola. At the round table, I request Manuka Gold, a surprisingly great cheese. I discover it. Oh, no, I'm sorry. A maria guda. Yeah, I see bad eyes. I saw Manuka Gold. That's not right.

I did too. A surprisingly great cheese that I discovered from Wisconsin made by a Dutch immigrant. As for the wine, I'll let John C. make the selection. Oh, it's cool. Signed Andrew Gras. So thank you. Robert Stokes. No address.

10335, rest in peace. John C. DeVorek. This next one, Michael Stepnitska, Vienna, Virginia, $100 in the morning, indeed. I'll really miss his analysis as well as learning what he put the C in. My condolences to John's family and to you as well. Well, thank you, Michael.

Dita and Jack, Cumberland Foreside, Maine. We were lost during COVID. Then we were found because John and Adam were around. Their deconstruction gives us hope to understand news and not be a dope. Now John's crossed the threshold. He will be sorely missed, but the show must go on. Or he will be pissed. R.A.P. JCD, love and light to all.

D-D-D-D-D-D-D-A and Jack Cumberland, Foreside, Maine. Felix Comici comes in with $100 from Farmington, Connecticut. rest in peace, JCD. Your memory will live on. Thank you for the laughter and the memories. Thank you, Felix. Adam G. Hurst, Heathcote, Australia. Thank you both Adam.

It's $100. Thank you both John and Adam for being part of my daily life for the past six years. Listening every morning on my commute to work, John's passing leaves a hole that can never be filled. Rest in peace, John C.D. Thoughts and prayers to Mimi and family. John Buell coming in from Vista, California with $100, no note. So double them up.

You've got. Karma. Ezra from Bris Vegas, Australia, 9482. Hello, Adam, Mimi, and family. My deepest condolences, I've been listening to Adam and Johnson's 2014. Thanks to Grimerica, please dedush me for I have sinned. John was the father figure I never had. Man, we hear that a lot, don't we?

Yeah. The trusted friend I'd never met and the teacher I never knew I needed. He made me laugh every episode with his blunt wit and impeccable timing, and I don't think there will ever be a time where I don't miss him. Please play John's spooky, Donate. He would probably have a chuckle at that. Ezra from Brisbane, Australia. You've got...

The Donate! Don't it. Karma. Coming in next. Rose Richardson with 94.82. And no note, no jingles, no karma. And I mean, since we're doing that, we need the practice anyway. Yeah.

You got. Double up. Karma. Here's Dame Anne, 9482. I just found out about John's untimely demise. And they met so much to me. during COVID when I found Gitmonation and realized I was not alone

and a world gone mad. John's legacy is far reaching and won't stop at his mortal passing. Love to all, Dame M. Julie G. coming in from Brighton, Ontario 9388. My condolences to Mimi and the

family and hugs to Adam. I am sad to hear of John's passing. It's 138.20 Canadian dollars which is 88, 88 plus $5 for fees and of course John loved the eights. Yes, he did. Wendy, uh,

no, uh, no home. No parts, parts as known as Darren said, you made an incredible impression on me week after week. The no agenda show is a safe place. It left an imprint on my heart that will never fade. Best podcast in the universe. Love and prayers.

Wendy. High-low Holland. Ryan, Caitlin and Maggie from Beck, Thull. in Pennsylvania. That sounds Dutch as well. 93-64, which I'm guessing is 8888 with fees. We miss you, John, praying for you all. Love Ryan, Caitlin, and Maggie, no jingles, no karma. Well, thank you.

Leith Crooks. No address. I like everyone. Was shocked here of John's passing. My condolences to the Devorax curries and all the producers. I'm about three weeks behind, so it will be bittersweet experience listening to his last remaining shows. The donation box asked for a favorite memory of John and apart from his daily lessons and critical thinking, what sprang to mind was when Adam would make an exceptional quip that would crack John's scaly exterior. But there was always a small delay before John's made an outrageous sounding laugh

in the background. It would always be so unique in sound and I'd find myself rewinding the show to listen to it again. A testament to the relationship you two shared. bits that made John laugh would also make a great special show RIP Buzzkill, Leith Crooks. Yeah, and I really believe they just did the show

to make each other laugh, which is kind of what we do as well. I'd like it. Yeah, that's good stuff. Charles Weittenheimer? Sounds right to me. 93, 64, no note, no car. So, uh, you've got

Double up. Um, uh, karma. Thank you, Charles. Bill LaClair. Very sad to hear about John's passing. Oh, 93-64, no address. Very sad to hear about John's passing condolences to his family and friends. He was loved by many and will not be forgotten. John responded to all four of my emails over the years. One to explain why he always said my name, capital L, small A, capital C. He was a big fan of classic WC Fields. So my. Rest in peace, John. Bill LeClair. Yovna coming in with 9364 and the sad emoji, which I feel you. Thank you. Yes. Elliot Lang, 9364. I worked in a Chicago computer store back in the early 80s and we all enjoyed John's PC magazine articles every month. I didn't like the mouse when it first came out either.

I almost felt like I was betraying John when I got my first serial mouse so long ago. I have followed John's career throughout the years and considered him something of an old friend. I will miss him. Elliot Lang. Yeah, a lot of people didn't. I mean, he didn't say the mouse was not going to work. He just said there was no evidence, which there wasn't. I'm backing him on that one. Okay. Pat Deary came in with $93 and $64. Says no words he will be missed. Well, thank you. Pat is appreciated. Surplum or surplus of the consumer, 9364. Surplus of the consumer, he, here, JCD, read my don't know on show 979. One of my proudest moments is making him say, me likey.

Grateful for JCD teaching me whipsaws and all the insider media tricks also is love, joy, peace, patience, and of course, courage. Thank you, Sir, Plus. Then Ryan Young coming in with 9364 with no note in there at all. Okay. Here's Darren O'Hara. Is he a relative? Henderson, Nevada, 9364. I know this will likely miss the 1889 cutoff, but things got busy, and I still wanted to get this donation in. I have been saving for another executive producer credit, but it felt important to give something now to honor JCD in the greatest podcast on Earth. I remember listening to John on DH Unplugged, though for whatever reason I didn't find my way to know a genie. until after I saw that MTV guy on Rogan during the pandemic. I'm glad I did. Thank you, JCD and Adam, for helping me get through this time.

And for the continued media deconstruction each week. And thank you to the Devorik family for sharing JCD with No Agenda Nation. John C. DeVoric, thank you for your courage, Godspeed. You will be missed, ITM, Darren. Garrett Morrison coming in with 93-64. No note there, so thank you very much. And then the next one is Sir Dwight the Knight from Burlington, Ontario, 93-64. In the morning, Adam, and of course always John C. DeVorek.

Sir Dwight the Knight here, kneeling and heartfallen. I couldn't believe the news when I heard it and I'm still having trouble. The show will never be the same and I will always listen. Well, thank you, Sir Dwight. You are absolutely correct. Stephen Mullen, 9364, whether going for a walk, run, driving, doing errands, or falling asleep. The No Agenda Show was my go-to podcast since 2020. As a pharmacist, you educated me since our institutions refuse to do so. Please deduish me. Give me a break. I had ants. You've been deduished.

And Sir Allen of Midlothian coming in from Virginia, 9364 says it was a great run for JCD. May he now rest in peace, Sir Allen of Midlothian. Thank you. Michael Strichars, no address, 9364 and no message. Then John Johnson from Goldsboro, North Carolina, 9364 says, Ben, a douche, way too, long and long live John C. DeVorek and we'll give you the deduishing. You've been deduced. Forbes Benning of London, Ontario.

9364, my sincerest condolences to the Devorick and Curry families. What a consolation it has been to hear all the heartfelt love for John. He touched so many lives. J.C.D. was with us for so long that we thought he was eternal. Well, now he is. Please accept this donation of 8888. Prayers were said for John, real prayers, to wish him well on his journey to the great meetup beyond.

Godspeed, JCD, sincerely, Forbes Benning, Surreal Night of London. Steve Carrico coming in parts unknown with 93. In the morning, like many, I came to lean on John's deconstruction and yours to Adam over the years, that unmatched calm and realism put us all at ease. Thank you for everything. I'm embarrassed to say, but I'm in need of that deduishing.

Thank you, Steve, and with pleasure. You've been deduished. Michael Gilmore of Danville, California, says now that you're upstairs, $90, rather, now that you're upstairs. Actually, that's the next one. That's because there's two gray in a row. They're fooling us.

Oh, see, that's my. my colorblindness. He said nothing. Yeah, but thank you, Michael. And then Jackson Capizio Gilmore came in with 90 and says, now that you're upstairs, would you ask the owner where the missing newsletters are and who decided the recipients would be? If he does not know, have him assist you with the debugging. You should finally have the ultimate cis admin privileges. Love Jackson, Capizio Gilmore. And that, like I said, 90 bucks, I think, but that reminded me of the

the Ham silent key tribute for John, which was very touching. I mean, this is the computer guy thing where now you've got the full system admin, right? So if somebody's messing with my computer, I'll know who it is. Virginia Watts of Ketchikan, Alaska. Lady Vox.

Lady Vox. Hello, Lady Vox. 8893. Because it's a prime number with double digits. Yeah. Eric, there's, okay, there's extra, there's weird characters. Yeah, the Y, KS and weird zero Y. X, ex, no, huh?

Yeah, I'm going to go with X, no, I don't know, 88, 88. You see, you thought John couldn't pronounce stuff. I really can't, and then I can't see it, too. Twitter donation, please, de douche, I really do. miss you, John. Thank you for everything you did. And thank you. Eric. You've been deduced. Rocket of Brownsboro, Alabama, 8888. I was shocked here of John's passing and was also shocked to learn he was 80. He seemed so young, but still one of my favorite OG boomers, love and prayers to the Dvorax and Curry's Rocket. Paul Weigarn.

Schofer. I think, why Garns Schofer? 8888. And no, no, thank you very much, Paul. Here's an interesting one, because it's from my hometown. John Dave of Elmhurst, New York, 8888. No message. Thank you, John, Dave. David Egan from Austin, Tejas, 8888 says, rest in peace, JCD. Thank you. T. Hore. Is that four with a space? Okay, now that's a Dvorakism, if ever. Yeah, T. Hore, Thor. From North Sydney, Australia, just got back from vacation and in shock.

You two have been with me since 2008 and always felt like family. Heartfelt condolences to the entire Dvorick family. I'm devastated. Thor from Manly, Australia. Thank you, Thor. Dame Mary Paul Stewart from Seattle, Washington, 8888. In memory of John C. DeVorek, where the sea stands for a select. Jill. God bless you. John Dame, Mary Paul Stewart. Thank you. Nathan Marshall. No address, 8888. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

Very true. Joseph King coming from Docula, Georgia, 8888. In the morning, Adam and JCD family. It is with great sorrow. I send in this donation in the memory of John C. DeVorek. I will keep this note brief so John doesn't get to grouch. up above, but I hope to express the immense impact that the No Agenda show has had on my life. I have been a listener since Adam's first JRE appearance, but never donated any treasure. Please deduished me. You've been deduished. The media deconstruction, thoughtful commentary and humor of the show has been a steadfast companion to me these past few years and has been. such a positive influence in my life. After meeting my now wife, Anna, I soon hit her in the mouth

and can attest that it is true that those who no agenda together stay together. Both of us are devastated at JCD's passing and we send love and prayers to his family and the rest of No Agenda Nation heading to Costco now to find a cheap Bordeaux in honor of John. I'll be, Costco should be paying the Warwick clan. Thank you, Joseph. Andre Harselhorst and Van Den Gorberg of Alphen, Netherlands. Netherlands, okay. Thanks for everything.

RAP, John C. DeVornec. 88, 88. And on that one and on this one from Louise Lancaster. And it is 8888. Ah, lovely JCD, where will we be? Thank you, thank you, thank you, Louise. Sir Jerry Carl, the night of All Things Greasy. Sir Jerry Carl.

Jerry Curl, there we go. How did I miss that? All Things Greasy, Raleigh, North Carolina, 8888. John and Adam have brought something incredible to this world. I can never thank you enough for what John's columns, No Agenda, and the No Agenda family have given me. God bless you, Mimi, and God bless the Dvorak and Curry families. Rest in Peace, JCD.

Sincerely, Ryan Smith, Sir Jerry Curl, the night of all things greasy, Raleigh, North Carolina. And P.S., thanks for bringing the word specious back into my life. It's a fun one. And Jordan, Frazier coming in with 8888, rest in peace, JCD. The skills you guys have passed on have equipped me for life, enabling me to recognize the bulk crap, a truly immeasurable benefit. Well, thank you, Jordan.

Dude named Muhammad, no address. 8888 from dude named Muhammad. Then Scott Penton coming in from Tonawanda, New York, 8888. And then Eric Mackey coming in from Blairsville, Georgia, also with 8888. Okay, anonymous from Newcastle-upon-Tyne in Great Britain. 888, dear Adam and the DeVorek family,

just listened to Adam's opening in 1888. and it provided a needed release. I was sobbing. Found out when I read the newsletter, thought it may be a joke. It's hard to describe what an impact this has had on me. As an old gray beard named Ben,

I followed Johnson's early days on Twitter and cranky geeks as he flung those cards. Pugh, pew, phew, jingle please. I will miss his curmudgeonly ways, his wit and sharp insight. And he just plain made me laugh. I would like to be knighted, Sir Moore-Batt. a call back to the place I grew up

and spent many happy hours playing as a child. At the roundtable, I would like a pint of Rig Welter and a giant Yorkshire pudding filled with onion gravy please. Just for random info, Ikela Moorbat refers to the unofficial anthem of the county of Yorkshire in the UK, literally on Ickley Moor without a hat in the local dialect.

It's a sad tale of a young lover courting the bleak moor and his potential death from exposure without the proper headgear. Lovely. We sang this in primary school. A 737 sized hole in your heart is truly apt. My thoughts are with you all. Soon to be Sir Moore Bot at Anonymous.

And I believe this is the jingle. I think that's it. I mean, I know there's others. Sounds like, that sounds like Pew Pugh. Yeah, it sounds right. I'm a spinning place. Welcome to the round table. Next up, sir.

Rob Baron of Greater Limburg coming in with 8888. Thanks, John, for all the great shows. No jingles, no karma. Sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg. Sir Glenn of Raleigh, North Carolina, 88, 88. My condolences to Dvorick family and Curry family. I will surely miss John, but hope the show continues. Media deconstruction, thanks, and J&K.

Ryan Wolf coming in from Covington, Virginia, 8888, says, Dear Adam John's family and the No Agenda donation, I've been following John for over three decades now. In the early 90s, in the back of the computer magazines I used to sit and read at Barnes & Noble, John C. DeVorek was there during the golden years of Tech TV before it went stupid. Oh, you did? John was there on Leo's podcast in the earliest days when they still called them Netcast, John was there.

The cranky geeks, No Agenda, and D.H. Unplugged. John was there. I'm nine episodes behind the show for, so for me, John is still there. I think I'll hold those few episodes for a rainy day, knowing that John and Adam will still be there. One of my favorite doctor who lines sticks in my head. The doctor says something like, every time that you see people happy, you remember how sad they're going to be later. And it breaks your heart. What's the point of being happy now if they're just going to be sad? And the answer, of course is because they're going to be sad later. This feels true right now. We always got the happy nowadays time for the sadness. I never got to meet John or any of you never shook hands or shared a meal. But after all those years of listening, John and Adam allowed me to feel a little part of their family, like a little part of their family.

John's stories the way he talked about technology and the industry and the bits about everyday life. Let me share in some of the happiness and camaraderie. It's a real gift and one that death doesn't get to take away. Through all the crazy years, the endless news cycles, the pandemics, the AI panic, the climate alarms, the constant sense of imminent doom. John and Adam wore a steady hand on the tiller, especially during the 2020 COVID times when the media was pouring out panic and fear and doubt. The two of you were a stabilizing voice of reason. That meant a great deal to me.

And I imagine it did for a lot of other people, too. I can ditto that. And that's Brian Wolf. Thank you very much. Okay. Jeffrey Sarkisian from Dollar Day or Mille in Canada. 8888 by deepest sympathies. Scott Simon jingle, please.

And don't ask me to speak the Scott Simon Yeah I don't ask me to speak French That's not going to happen Suffer and Succatash I'm Scott Simon

Gary Katfer Tulsa Oklahoma 8888 88 88 with no note then Bob Rathmel from Santa Isabel

Is that California Yeah, 8888 as well. Thank you very much. Spencer from San Francisco 80.08. I, too, have never before cried like this about someone I never met. Six hours a week. What a gift your show. And John has been for me.

The clip show today was very healing. God bless from Spencer and SF. And then there he is. Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina, with 8-0-0-8. That's right. 1890 B.O B donation, Archduke of Luna, lover of America,

and boobs. Hmm. John Albertini, Alberini, $70.26. No place, no message. Chris Dumanour from Brooksville, MD.

That's... Merlin. Yes. I need to go back to geography school, I guess. He says, thank you for substituting. I am a mother-feasant fucker.

I pluck mother-feasins. I am the most pleasant mother-feasant plucker to ever pluck a mother. See, I guess he wants to attest the new guy. And if he can read and do a tongue twisters and it will get a good ISO. But thank you, Chris. Les Tarkowski of Kingman, Arizona. I know that town. It's pretty cool.

$60.6. No message. That's that old Route 66. isn't it? Oh, it's a great town. It really is cool. I like it a lot. Which maybe is the 60-06, maybe. Christopher Lee coming in with 5940. So sorry for your loss, Adam and family of JCD. Thank you for your dedication to the show. I miss hearing your stories and thoughts on what's happening each week. But hope the show continues on in your memory. Sorry, it's only 88 88-A Aussie dollar bucks. Oh, it'll be sad about that. It's a beautiful thing.

Thank you, Christopher, for your contribution and for listening and supporting the best damn podcast in the universe. Surprise Night of Astonishment from the Yukon, Oklahoma, U.S. 544, no message. Nathan Gwyn of Jackson, Tennessee, 5272, no message. Foster Birch of New York, New York, 5272, no message. Then Philip Koster coming in from Rosendahl, Netherlands, 5272. Sorry to hear of John's passing while on holiday in China. I really enjoyed his contribution. Hope you can help each other with this loss.

Well, thank you. Bill up. Abraham Roots, Sunnyville, California. $50. $88. No message. And then we have the 50s here. We have Aaron Weiz Gerber from Bend, Oregon with 50.

Kach. Wow, do you want to take you that one? Katrian von Tij. Tujil, Katrian von Tugel, I think so. I'll go with that. Maybe it's fake. My pronunciation, that is. Rotterdam, Netherlands, $50.

Richard Garnier for $50. Stephen Streeter, South Jordan, Utah, $50. Mike Toll, Memphis, Tennessee, $50. My thoughts are with you, Adam. Rest in peace. John Paul Nilsen. Nisson. Nijsson.

$50, yeah. Terrence Clark, Jacksonville Beach, Florida, $50. Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska, $50. Nathan Noel from Netherland, Texas, Neiderland, Texas, $50. Sounds good. Tony Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado, $50. George O., New Brunswick's, New Jersey, $50 and birthday, July 25. and Sir Michael from Shnomish, Washington.

That's out by Bemrose, I think. Yeah. Coming in with $50. And that brings us to the end of another very touching list. I mean, I love hearing what everybody is remembering about JCD and all of the good things. It's a hard thing to go through. But man, you want to talk about leaving a legacy.

There is no doubt. leaving a huge legacy behind. Yeah. So now we do the, I guess birthday, we got birthdays, we got meetups, we got nightings.

Nightings, yeah. And for the nightings, we have a layaway night here. So there was no name in here. My husband and I have donated 33, 33, since 2020. I got my dame ship.

I think my calculations are correct, but I think five years and one month in, my husband should be a knight. Can Bruce be Sir Bruyike of Indy and have Chicago style and a spicy red hot sausage at the roundtable if still applicable? A make-good nighting on episode 1888, I achieve knighthood with a 333 donation. I request a jingle that didn't get played. I wanted to hear Adam Fis bump in honor of JCD's frequent Yeah, no, I hear John and the jingle in my head sometimes I or anyone around me says

Yeah, no, is there, yeah, no jingle? Let's see here. There's a Leo, yeah, no. Yeah, no. Yikes. No, that's not, no, that's not. Yeah, I apologize. I don't have the,

vast knowledge of these clips here. I also want to note a change in my knighthood. I requested to be called Sir Loudneighbor, Night of the Loess Hills. But that was hasty, and I'm not technically in the Lowes Hills. And I had to get my note in quick. So if a change is possible,

I'd like to be known as Sir Loudneiber, night of winter quarters. It would be greatly appreciated. and he's from Omaha, Nebraska, and a make-good nighting for Chris Fulford. And he wants a mud flat report, jingle. And I don't, yeah, I'm not sure. There's nothing with flat or mud.

Uh-oh. Is there a report? There's a, no, I mean, there's a weekly hooker report, but I don't have. have a... Put that in instead. That'll work.

Is that just as good? I don't know. Of the grace, that might be better. Oh my. I love it. Yeah. That had to do something with JCD and it had to be,

I don't even remember that one. How far back does that go? I like that. It's good. First off, I would like to give my deepest condolences to the entire DeVorec family, knowing how much John meant to so many that didn't share his name. I can imagine what kind of solar system size whole.

that has been left at the family table. I will keep every member of the No Agenda family in my prayers as y'all sort out the after onward. Very JCD. I've been listening to No Agenda since somewhere in the mid-800s. I had just recently lost my father to unexpected health concerns. We're sorry to hear that. So the show quickly filled a hole that I didn't know was there.

Two men who knew stuff and were happy to tell me all of them. about it. I was hooked immediately. I started out not caring too much for John because he was such a buzzkill. I was all in with all the crackpot stuff Adam brought for the second half of show, and I couldn't stand it when John would poo-poo Adam's latest deep dive. As I aged from a young man to a proper adult, in quote, listening to the show, I began to see the wisdom in a lot of what John had to say and began to actually look forward to what his thoughts would be on many subjects, no matter that I'm not, no doubt I'm not the only one. Over the many years of having John and Adam at my side, as I'm driving around town, fixing houses and

ACs, I have probably picked up more worthwhile life wisdom than I have ever gotten from the people who should have gave it to me when I was younger. I was always aware of that, but for some reason that never clicked in my head as value. Yes, I am a douchebag. Oh, we got to do a, uh-oh. That's a, yeah, we got a dedoosh. You've been deduished. I always measured my value received by some of the metrics that Adam likes to mention.

I'm mildly introverted, so I rarely use any information from the show in general conversation. I'm not financially savvy enough to profit from the information. and the closest I ever came to feeling compelled to donate was when the Hans song made its debut. That's such a great song. It is. Needless to say, I took this for granted, and I'm deeply remiss that it took the passing

of one of my all-time favorite people to really understand that. I'm also one of the maybe not so few people that actually got the newsletter, but never opens it. So I was blindsided by that truck that John loves so much when I opened my podcasting 2.0 compliant app and saw the cover art. I'm man enough to admit that I cried for at least two hours

in my work van on Friday morning. Oh, I feel you, brother. When John made it home from the hospital, I realized how important you guys are in my life. And I promised myself that I would get on a recurring program as soon as I got my finances in order. Well, John, being the master that he is, got me to pull out of my savings account to make

this palindrome instantite donation of 1088.01 plus fees in his honor. I still plan to get on that recurring program at some point, but for the time being, please, oh, don't de-dush me. Wait, and if you've already deduished me, then I preemptively call myself out as a douchebag. I love the no agenda producers. I really do.

Really, we have to knight you today and? Dushbag. Yeah, twice. I'll probably return to my douchebaggery for a while. Seeing as residential HVAC mechanics don't make as much as one might think, unless you are willing to wear a white shirt and lie to grandmothers. But I digress. Oh, I bet you you have stories, brother.

Yeah. The Lord provides all, so I am perfectly happy with everything already at the roundtable. Thank you. For my night name, I would like the moniker to be, Sir Christopher the dog-headed. For jingles, I have either or request. Mimi, if you are still in John's studio, can you give us one last mudflats report for the old time's sake?

If you already have the studio seal as a time capsule to open in 30 years. You know, I could actually see John requesting that. Oh, yeah. Then I would like a nice pregnant pause, also known as a moment of silence for the legend that will always be John C. DeVorak. Thank you for all, thank you all for everything you do

for Gitmonation. Love is lit. And we have the nightings to do. So, I mean, did you get a sword for the, for the nightings? I did not. Oh, well, here. Oh, thank you.

I'll try this one. Yeah, give me that one. Oh, that's nice. It's move. And we've got a whole list here. We've got Lene Hall becoming Dame Ulliani, Mira Keck becoming Dame of Thai chicks, Matthew Hosko becoming Sir Matt of the Flight Levels,

Alex Mandel being coming, Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley, Charles Neal, Sir Gopher Gold, Andrew Grasso, becoming Sir Grasso, Reluctant Night of Mineola, Anonymous becoming Sir Mourbatot, Colin McCarthy becoming Sir Loud Neighbor Night of the Winter Quarters Bruce becoming Sir Breweke of Indy and Chris

Fulford becoming Sir Christopher of the dogheaded and what we need you to do then is come on up everybody they're on the stage. Is this stage even big enough? And we want to pronunciate

you as Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Show. I mean, I don't know if I have the, the proper coverage to do that, but I guess, you know, and until further known how, but thank you for your support of the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. And we are very proud to pronounce,

it took me a long time to realize he was saying pronunciate rather than pronounce the, yes. And we've gotten all the, for the usual, you've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, and then mutton and me, to ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, and all the other good stuff that comes with. It head over to noagenda rings.com. That's where you can find all the information on getting your very handsome no agenda night dame signet rings. Send them the ring size and address. They get it out to you along with some sealing wax and a certificate of.

authenticity and thanks to everybody for supporting the best damn podcast in the universe and becoming a knight or dame of no agenda and we appreciate you putting up with us being the uh the one the villain guys yeah the villain guys to to do that for you and then we do have a couple of birthdays we have george oh on july 25th and arno would like to wish Sebastian a very happy birthday. He's turning 35 on July 30th. And we hope you all have a darn good time. And yeah, then there's, uh, there's meetups.

Meetups. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Connection is absolutely protection when it comes to the No Agenda Meetups. And there's. There is a long list of them coming up before we get to the Spicewood Meetup Report. We have Thursday, July 30th.

Well, that's today. The North Idaho Sanity Brigade Summer Meetup at 5 p.m. Pacific at Trainsend Brewery and the Brick Oven Pizza in Courte, Delane, Idaho. And the organizer, Sir Scott the Jew. July 30th. Oh, I'm sorry. Perfect. Yeah.

You can do that. I'll grab the other one. file here. Sure. July 30th, today, North Georgia, RIP, JCD meetup at 6 o'clock Eastern. Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia, organizer, Sir Bob. 30 July, urgent pour out one for JCD meetup, 6 p.m. Eastern, Saints and Scholars, Raleigh, North Carolina, organizer J.D. Jeffers. Want to keep going to these, Darren? Yes, if you could. Okay. On Friday, July 31, Abe's Bay Area exit strategy meetup at 533 p.m. Pacific, the Duke of Edinburgh Pub in Cupertino, California. The organizer is Abe. On also Friday, the 31st, JC celebration of life at 6 p.m. Central at the Barley Oak in Mandeville, Louisiana.

Organizer is Dame Rachel. Also on Friday, the Calgary meetup at 7 p.m. Mountain. That's the Lenox Irish Pub, Calgary, Alberta, Alberta. Canada. Organizer is Melvin Gibstein. Saturday, August 1, remember and celebrate JCD at 2 p.m. Eastern at the March 1st Brewing Company in Cincinnati, Ohio. Organizer is Baron Fox Hat. Sunday, next show. August 2, JCD in Memorial at 33 p.m., oh, sorry, 333 p.m. north of Toronto time. All-star wings and ribs in Vaughn, Ontario, Canada. Organizer is Bishop. Yeah, then there's a long other list of things coming up from all over the world, from Ketchikan, Alaska to Oklahoma, to Australia, to Texas, to Florida, to Thailand. Mm-hmm. And even the UK, all over the place, just go to no agenda meetups.com for that information. And we do have a meetup report, the JCD meetup from Spicewood, Texas on July 25th.

This is Logan from Spicewood. It's my first meetup, and I'm happy to be here, but sad to see John Go. He brought so much insight and knowledge and entertainment the past few years that I've been listening, and I will continue listening as much as I can. I brought my three human resources here that you'll hear on this, and our admission here costs 3330 today, so it all comes together. are gonna be the best thing in the world. Don't eat me, Bo D'Eyton, you're scary, so scary.

In the morning, sending love and lit from the Turner family of New Bronfels, Texas. We are so excited to have been here today to enjoy this lovely day, meeting some super cool people in No Agenda Royalty like Sir Ducifer and Brian with an eye who has merch and... And Scott, and it's been wonderful with all of our families and friends in this beautiful and friends in this beautiful day. And you created this, John, and it's beautiful, and we love you for it. We're going to miss you, and this is devastating.

Here's our son, Holden. I just want to pray that the Lord be with your family, and that he blesses you abundantly and infinitely. Hey, John, I was reading your columns when I was in middle school in the mid-80s. I still agree that OS2 was better than Windows. I've watched John C-Net and Tech TV, and I've listened to you on no agenda for the last 15-plus years. You will be missed. I don't know how I'm ever going to know what Costco winded by from my wife. John, we love you and miss you, and I hope they give you a hoodie up in heaven.

This is Viscount Scott of the Armory. And keeper Christine. Saying farewell to our great friend, John. On our 10th wedding anniversary, we took the jaunt to California and berated John. And actually had a J.C.D. Jr. to get him to go out the lunch with this so we got to spend an entire day with lunch and surprisingly one of his favorite topics at lunch was his android phone things say change we even got to see the lexas life's not going to be the same life will go on my prayers are out to the family john adam and everybody we're going to miss

you john hey this is sir brian with an eye we miss you john we're out here celebrating your life doing some swimming and grilling. And I was at the store this morning, getting food for everybody. And I wanted to see if I could find something with a 33 on it, like a cool bottle of hot sauce or something. But the only thing I found

was a 33 pack of maxi pads and I figured he'd already had enough to eat. Sir Duceifer. Hey, John, Adam. Definitely. I don't know if this is more for John or Adam at this point because We have a wealth of stories and advice and information from John going back 18 years,

and that's what we should be celebrating. We love you guys and we're glad, and this is way too long. Sir Brian that I was looking at me like, yeah, this is not making the cut. Would you agree? That's probably where I'm going to end. Yeah, if you want to be a part of a No Agenda meetup, I highly recommend it. And the long audio was appreciated because I'm still loading up the end of show mixes. Go to No Agenda Meetups.com.

Even our buddy, sir, Eli, the coffee guy. Is he a sir yet? Eli the coffee guy got me to go to a meetup back in March. So yeah, I do leave the house every now and then not. You can't believe everything Bemrose tells you. That is absolutely true. Again, noagenda meetups.com. connection is protection and this is the reason why we are filling in and having a train wreck

because you just couldn't have silence for a few weeks. So we appreciate everybody. Kind of following along with us when we were talking to Adam. Larry's like, yeah, you know, it could be a train wreck. And he's like, I expect it to be. That's the fun part of it. And part of what they do is doing an ISO for the end of the show. And so I have a few here that.

I thought might work. And one is this one. Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen. Everything as well. Which after this show, they might need that. The only harpsichordist I ever knew was Lurch from the Adams family. That was a great show. Yes, it was.

Or I'm thinking, even though it's long, and it wouldn't be something that Adam would do. It's too long. I think this might be the two for it to end today's show. It's not going to work out. You're so fucking fired. That's not AI. That's real.

But I think that may be what we need to do. But we thank everybody for hanging out with us. It's been a whole lot of fun. We'd have, if I can find, loaded everything up. Adam makes it look easy. I swear the guy looks easy, makes it look easy. He's a sorcerer. He is.

He is also from the future, no doubt about it. Yeah. The next thing coming up on the Mighty No Agenda Stream is curated by Sir Ryan Bemrose. Is D.H. Unplugged? Remembering JCD, so you want to stick around for that one. We have end-of-show mixes from Sir Chris Wilson. He's out of retirement. I'm excited.

Leo LePuke, Sir, Ty, and, uh, secret agent Paul, all of, I think, two, three of those, I think are no AI, or maybe all of them. So that is very much appreciated when the producers take the time to do the real thing. Yes. Until next time coming to you live just outside of Shirek, right here in FEMA region number five in the morning. Everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from pretentious Connecticut, I'm Larry Blydner. We'll be back here on Sunday.

Yeah, please join us and remember us at noagenda donations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, and such. The best podcast in the year. Adios, mofo. Did you know boobs are proof men can focus on two things at once? That's a good one. That's a good observation, yeah, it's observation. Tall and ten and young and lovely, the girl from Gitmo Nation goes walking, and when she passes,

each goat she passes, goes. And when she walks, it's like her samba with jiggly boos and small and mingle, and when she passes each goat, she passes, goes. want to give her some karma I want to knight her so badly I go and ask for Which she rides on some paper for me I read it back

She wrote 33 Young and lovely The girl from Gitmonais She goes walking But when she passes She doesn't see My douchebaggery because I listen for free

We miss you Jesse De He's blown up with his scowl Laugh out loud By listening to him Grouch and Grown Now it hurts to know as he leads Through that door Acknowledging that there's no more

Tovoract No internet page we cannot turn back Nothing is the same without Right Nothing's gonna be the same Again It's gonna be the same Aemone Nation

Let me tell you the tale Of a man born in 1952 Now you cannot doubt that day Because New York Times reported So therefore it must be true Regardless the year It was April 5th to a mom

Who raised him right always aware of the threat of the Chinese to their toilet paper. The man, the myth, the legend, John C. DeVorek, J.C.D. From Elserito High School to Berkeley College, though in the belly of the liberal beast, he emerged wiser than most, his eyes still open to sea. Off known to roll out in Alexis, vintage like his wine, and his youth we were told he was a biker rowing the world on a Kawasaki trip.

No matter how cold the weather may have been, The Casanova to all would approach the ladies, as only he could with his classic pickup line. It always worked. If you need proof that it worked, look no further than Nimi. John C. Devorak, where the sea stands for crankiest of geeks, where the sea shows his discerning taste in clip of the day, where the steed could stand for clip and the whipsaws or chick magnet Where the sea stands for the kernel of the commonwealth of Kentucky

The polymath of all men he has done it all, be it summer jobs of construction are protecting us from climate change As a pollution inspector, he excelled He knew crude oil from the heavy suite of South America To the light sour of the Middle East and all the hydrocarbons they emit In the end, the only reason San Francisco still has mudflats today is his diligent watchful eyes. Remember, Knights and Dames, he did all this while the Zephyr rolled by fighting off Barbara Boxers' advances each day. Later, he would conquer all technology, be it InfoWorld, PCMag, Market Watch, Forbes, Twit, both times, New York and L.A. He ruled them all with a wit none could match.

Then one day, his partner, Adam Curry, put an MT3 in an RSS container, and then, That's where the magic happened. In the morning, podcasting and no agenda were born, deconstructing the world to shrink all the amygdalas. He brought peace and smiles in times of prices so we would not lose hope. We love you, John. You're gone too soon. Karma. John C. Dvorak, where the sea stands for choosing tip of the day, created by Dana Bray. Where the sea stands for choosing.

Using stocks with Horowitz, where the sea stands for Costco wants, supple easy on Europe. Now let's gather at the round table, Knights and Dame, one last time for some mutton and need. We've shed our tears and now it's time to do as JCB would haunt us to. Because we all know if John's ghost were here today, there's only one thing he would say. Donate, don't... What day the week is it today? What color tie you're wearing? What colors the carpet in front of you?

On the divisive counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it dissatisfying. Whatever it is. The Fifth Amendment. Do it. Do it. Do it dissatisfied. Go on and do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Satisfarine. I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied. Dr. Fauci. Thanks so much for joining us. Good to be here, bros.

The best podcast. Adios. Mofo. You're so fucking fired.