No Agenda - 1892 - "Kill Switch"
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He's full of shit.
Larry Blytner, Darren O'Neill.
It's Thursday, August 6, 2026.
This is your Gipmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1892.
This is no agenda.
Yeah, we're broadcasting live from just outside of Shirek,
right here in FEMA region number five in the morning, everybody.
I am Darren O'Neill.
And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore,
this is Larry Blydner, keeping commies and creeps at bay
with my gleaming scimitar of trees.
truth.
It's Darren and Larry.
In the morning.
At least you've never seen Bernie Sanders outside your door or anything, right?
Well, not yet, but anything can happen.
You know that.
Exactly.
Especially in this state.
There's a lot of honk if you love Bernie bumper stickers or crap like that around here.
Really?
That's a thing?
It's kind of, you know, he still sustains, doesn't he?
You know, the guy's 2,000 years old and, you know, he's still spreading his, his
commie lies.
Do you remember the good old days when it was?
Oh, he's just that crazy Bernie.
He's never, it's never going to do anything.
Socialism will never take foot.
He's just, he's just that one crazy guy that gets elected.
Oh, yeah, there's been a succession of crazy guys, you know, for a century.
Gus Hall, he was the, the, every election he ran as the commie candidate.
I think he ran like nine elections or something.
There's someone before him.
It's not new.
No, there's Bernie.
Nothing new under the sun except they are multiplying.
Oh, they certainly are.
Oh, my God, are they?
It's very scary.
And we have a very exciting show today.
The Podfather will be joining us.
That is cool.
That is a rock and groove, baby.
He's going to finally pull our plug.
No doubt about it.
Hey, it's his show, man.
I get it.
We know, we know we're not Adam.
We're not John, but Boost and donate.
And if you want, media deconstruction,
doing the best we can and having fun with it.
I know you.
We sure are.
You personally, you like to look for the negative comments.
And, I mean, it makes it even more fun.
And there's always some to reward me.
This is true.
You always probably got a lot of negative comments going in their timeline as
poor Anthony Fauci, you know.
Oh, man.
He's at an avalanche of negative comments.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I saw one video where I think it was a dude
from TMZ, which would make sense because you don't expect anybody in the normal mainstream media
to dare be out in front of Anthony Fauci's house and be like, hey, so what about that taking
the fifth 111 times?
But of course, Fauci didn't answer that guy either.
But Harvey Levin gave a glowing endorsement on his show, like the day of or the day after,
just him, not even with his sidekick telling what a great guy is.
and how wrong everyone is and we should revere him and so on and so forth.
And even went back to the, you know, the first time Fauci's head popped up like a whack-a-mole
during the AIDS crisis.
And, I mean, I mean, there were guys that really were calling for his beheading back then.
One of the most popular or vocal of them was a guy named Larry Kramer.
He was a very, very outspoken gay activists.
And, man, he just went for Fauci's lungs.
So I don't know what Harvey's thinking, but, you know, it's his show and his right to speak.
You must protect Dr. Fauci at all costs.
At all costs.
Unless, of course, you are Aaron Rogers.
Now I'm going to plead the fifth.
Okay.
Okay.
Like that.
I love that guy.
Like that absolute coward, Tony Foucher.
Absolute coward.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, 111 times.
You got to pardon and you're in front of you pleaded over a hundred times at the White House.
What are you scared of, Tony?
I thought you were the science.
I thought you were I am science and you get up there and he can't answer a question.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
And how much time did the network spend to that?
How much time did they spend on my responses every week on my vaccination status on Taylor and Travis's wedding?
Does that bother you?
No, it's all important.
Very important news for the M5M.
And he's got a point, I mean, when it was all going on like, oh, can all of these sports, I mean, I think the NASCAR guys had to,
you know, get, they're in a car by themselves with a helmet on.
I mean, I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
And what Aaron did is that takes immediate construction to another level, which is as it happens.
I mean, the guy with the worst job in the world at that moment was Pat McAfee.
I mean, what must he have been thinking?
Whoa.
I mean, the fact is this is the fallout because of Anthony Fauci being not very smart.
In writing all of these things onto a government servant, I heard from a rob the constitutional lawyer.
He's like, the guy has to be an idiot because everybody knows.
Of course.
It's government property.
Right.
It's all that can be foyered.
My wife works for the little village.
And it's like anything we do internally, we all know if there's a foia, this is all going out.
So you have to be careful about what you say, Anthony.
I read something today that they're looking for his texts.
That might there's another chapter.
Yeah, well, I heard they got his cell phone.
So that would, although I don't think you need the cell phone to get the text, although I guess it might speed that up.
Yeah.
And that's always a question when it comes to how these politicians communicate, because if it's anything official, it's supposed to be in a way that will be.
down in the annals of history
or people, you're not supposed to use
like Hillary, you know, your own email server
and run things that way.
So it's interesting to see, you know,
who's smart enough or who's not.
I think if you want,
a good financial play would be to invest in
a flock of carrier pigeons at this point
because you might have some privacy.
And I guess they worked pretty good in their day.
They got back and forth somehow.
Yes.
Greg Jared, of course, on Fox is talking about the diary here.
See if charges can be brought.
But look, Senator Paul has long argued.
Fauci lied and covered up COVID's origins.
And his diary is self-incriminating.
Publicly Fauci insisted COVID came from a natural source.
But you read his diary and privately he is conceding.
It likely came from the very lab that he had funded.
Which is the thing.
He lied. It's not that he was an idiot.
It's not that he made mistakes.
Oh, no.
It's because of the lies, and that's exactly what we have Rand Paul here.
Rand Paul calling for a vote tomorrow on whether...
And really, I love the music underneath all this stuff.
That's so great.
You got to keep...
Because otherwise, Larry, the kids aren't going to listen to a whole 38 seconds of news.
Yeah.
If it doesn't have a techno beat behind it.
Mm-hmm.
To hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress after Fauci pleaded the fifth 111 times during his testimony about the COVID-19 pandemic last week.
Can you explain to the committee why you chose to fund this dangerous research in China?
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
What day the week is it today? I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights on.
under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
If approved, the resolution would call on the DOJ
to pursue criminal charges against Fauci.
Yeah, and that'll be the next question,
whether they will have any charges.
It's going to be tough.
You know, it's a thought flashed through my mind.
A couple of nights ago, for some unknown reason,
I was looking at that movie The Irishman.
And there's a scene in there where
some mobsters sitting on a witness stand.
And that movie was made in 2018.
And the attorney's holds up his pen and says,
What color is my pen?
The guy says, I respectfully decline.
So I get a wonder if Josh Hawley was viewed that movie recently as well.
Probably life imitating art, aren't imitating life.
That whole round and round.
And it's interesting to see
who is jumping in on this, who is avoiding it.
Like you said, most of the mainstream media,
a lot of liberal talking heads are,
oh, we got to back Dr. Fauci.
He was doing what he thought was right.
Of course.
Even though the admission in his diary
would tell you otherwise.
Yes.
But even Joe Rogan taking a victory lap on Fauci,
do you hear this one?
Oh, really?
We are right now in the middle
of the Fauci hearings.
So he is now
testifying in front of Congress
and pleading the fifth about everything, including
the color of his tie. It's very
weird to watch.
In one way, it's
like, I told you
to a lot of my liberal friends that wanted to
pretend that he was a great guy and that he wasn't doing
anything wrong. And now that all these
emails have gotten out where it shows that
he knew that
the fatality rate was much lower
than they were saying, he knew that it
wasn't dangerous for children, that they didn't need vaccines. He knew that the social distancing
thing was all nonsense. And he's got a blanket pardon for 10 years. And the thing is, it's like
these people get money for research. And that's what they do. They do research. So if you get
money and you get grants for research, well, you're going to go do research. And if your research is
gain of function research that makes viruses more infectious to human beings. And, you know,
You have to do it because that's your job.
That's what you do.
That's what you studied.
That's what you went to school for.
What a crazy fucking thing we're doing.
Yeah.
I don't know that anywhere on Fauci's job description, it stated,
do gain of function research.
Somehow I think that was determined by a cabal of similar creeps to himself.
Just a guess.
Well, because it's very hard not to imagine a world
where that is used for a nefarious reason.
Because you could sell it to the average citizen.
You can sell this as, well, we're trying to do this so we can then be ahead of something like this that would happen so we would know how to counteract it.
But that's patent bullcrap.
It's clearly that that phrase is just camouflage for a bio weapon.
Yes.
You know, please.
But this is how it's being sold, which is why people need to understand what words mean.
why people are telling you certain things.
Yes, and as I always say,
not some people are stupid.
Most are stupid.
Because they've checked out.
They don't pay attention.
The news, I mean, it was bad enough
when they were going to John Stewart
for their news.
Now people are going to TikTok.
It's nearly impossible to believe.
I put TikTok on the same plane
as Stewart.
Well, they're kind of equaling out.
Yeah, yeah.
Because Stewart, I saw it, and I think we might even have the clip, it probably won't.
We got lots of clips thanks to everybody for bringing those into us, like Steve Jones, the clip collector.
And it is kind of interesting when you see like John Stewart going up against Federman and just being, it's all just politics.
It has nothing to do with being human.
and it has nothing to do with logic and understanding,
and it's getting kind of said.
What's with the human?
We know the reptiles.
Alex Jones told him.
I mean, David Ike told us.
Come on.
They're probably correct.
And one more, a big reaction to the Fauci thing.
This one from a guy that you and I have played a bunch over on Planet Rage.
You didn't hear as much around no agenda yet.
But Stephen A. Smith, who has been mentioned,
is a possible Democrat presidential candidate,
not that I believe he has any chance in hell,
but I think he would do better that a lot of them.
I mean, I would take them personally before Pritzker
or, you know, your California governor, Newsom, or Kamala, any of those.
And this was his take on the Fauci thing.
Do I think that he should be embarrassed for the self-adulation that he engaged in?
You damn right, I do.
Because some of the things that he was telling us to do was inconsistent with science,
but he was telling us it was science that led to him making the decisions that he made.
Masking, six feet distancing, the closing of businesses, forcing businesses to push those mandates upon people like me and others.
Because I took the vaccine.
and I took a booster and I wore a mask.
And we were told, hey, you ain't going to get COVID if you do that.
And I got COVID.
And damn it, it almost killed me.
Going into 2022, I'm in the hospital 90 minutes before the ball is about to drop.
And the doctor says, we've been at this for three plus weeks.
You got doubled them on you.
You look really bad.
If this antibiotic and this steroid does not work, Mr. Smith, I'm sorry, we're going to have to call your family.
It looks that bad, but we should know in three hours.
And through the grace of God, three hours later, I felt better after they gave me that steroid and that antibiotic.
But those were the longest three hours of my life because I thought it was over.
And I remember I had done exactly what Dr. Anthony Fauci.
was employing us all to do.
I will say Stephen A. Smith is right up there with Glenn Beck using silence.
You know, yeah, he's, I mean, I like what he says, but his style always grates on me.
And it's as simple, it could be summarized with this.
I'm going to scream.
I'm going to whisper.
I'm going to whisper.
Come on, man.
You're not running a revival meeting.
There's a goddamn microphone at your lips, okay?
And I think it functions.
You don't have to scream, Stevie.
Thank you.
But it's the same reason people put music behind the clips.
It's an engagement tactic.
And I think it works for it.
Not to me.
Not to me.
I hear me to behind the tracks and I take a ball for, man.
But the message he was bringing there is why this should not be a political topic.
This should be people on both sides being very upset that the guy that people were saying was the science, that was the
number one resource to go to when other doctors who had degrees who were studying this were like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And then we're shut down because Dr. Fauci disagreed while he was also making money hand over fist.
It would seem, according to the news reports, having his minions go out and like, hey, shouldn't you give this award to Dr.
Fauci? He needs the money.
You know, Fauci, he deserves all the heat that he's gotten and more.
And now I understand there's three states about to level charges at him,
which may not conflict with the federal pardon that Joey provided him.
But let's not forget who Joey was working for.
Fauci, Wollensky, I mean, there were hundreds, dozens certainly at the top,
and hundreds more that all circled the wagons and blasted.
out the same lives and mandates. So I don't, you know, I like seeing him being grilled by
by Hawley and the other guy, but there should be dozens of people in that senatorial chamber
being cooked. Why aren't there? It's a good question. I mean, because most of it is politics,
most of it is they don't want to go after their own. I mean, this is, you know, it's kind
of understandable being that we
before the Donald Trump thing
we had never seen the massive
amount of lawfare
going against people that
work for and in
the federal government. But I
think that the true answer to this is simply
the unbreakable alliance
between the billions,
trillions of big pharma
and the deep state.
They function as one. They're buddies.
So that's what the
power structure is.
really you know look at what was bobby the case saying you know for months before he took
office i'm going to stop uh television advertising for pharmaceuticals what happened what happened of
that he doesn't even mention that anymore you know no and they're still running them nonstop yes
of course drugs drugs drugs ask your doctor not well your doctor knows best he'll know what
drug to put you know which when we were growing up i know we're not you know 150 years old or
anything. But when we were growing up, there were no massive amounts of drug ads on television.
There were no, no, not massive. The only, there were no prescription drugs, period.
The only thing you could see was, was accedrin and anison and bear aspirin and maybe a cough
medicine. Get that robitussons. That was it. The prescription, I think was banned until sometime in the
1980s. And the only other place where they do this crap is in New Zealand. The rest of the entire
globe bans pharmaceutical ads on television. Well, yeah, because it elevates. It elevates.
the drug companies above the medical professionals.
Of course.
Well, the doctors have become Aaron Boys.
Yes.
I'm not doctors anymore.
I told you when the last time I went to the cardiologist,
your provider, your medical provider will be with you.
Like, no, that's not the way it works.
It is, it's unbelievable when the drugs,
and then you've got like usually 60 to 90 seconds of this is the side effects that
might happen, including death.
most of them. Oh, yeah. Love those side effects, man. Exploding kidneys, loss of sight. It's like,
wow. But people still, yeah, give me that stuff. I'll take that. Ask your doctor about.
I mean, no. Let your doctor figure out what you have and then figure out the best treatment.
You should never be walking into a doctor's office saying, hey, I heard about this drug. Can I get it?
Oh, but they do. Of course they're doing that. Yeah, especially those, those epic stuff. Whoa.
Now, you've got another Fauci clip here as well?
Yes, I have one more.
And, you know, as we know, there are allegedly four million podcasts out there in the world.
Well, it looks like there's going to be four million and one.
Hello, world.
This is America's doctor, Tony Fauci.
Introducing my new podcast.
You can download it at T-T-A-S-S.com.
tips and science stuff.
You know, lately, I've been getting a bad rap from senators and football players and God
knows who.
I can't a whit.
I still get piles of dough from drug patents and Cadillac government pensions.
And besides the money, millions of people still love me, people who know that I still am
the science.
I get respect from big people who really matter, like,
Julia Roberts, Joan Baez, and Barbara Streisand, they all love me, especially Barbara,
who I taught how to speak with Alexa as I was diagnosing the carbuncle on her buttocks.
Yeah, I'm a multitasker. And why do I refer to a lot of people as big people?
Because I'm only five foot two. And if you're wondering where I get my moxie, I'll tell you,
I'm hung like a palomino, and women can sense that.
Even if they're ancient and their sinuses are calcified with Botox,
somehow they can still sniff out my machismo.
Now besides my medical tip,
I'm going to guide you on a journey into new worlds of other science like numerology.
For instance, Asians think eight is a lucky number.
Americans think it's seven.
They don't know squat.
The true lucky number is five.
Five fingers, right?
Try swinging your pick-a-ball battle with three.
It takes five cards to make a royal flush.
And Constitutional Amendment No. 5.
That's a mountain of luck in one little sentence.
So get on over to T-T-A-S.com.
Fridays at Five Eastern.
I tip you.
You tip me.
I take Zelle Venmo, Cash, Chap, and Visa.
No amex, sorry.
See you.
Wow.
It had to happen, didn't it?
No, no. It's a producer mode. That should have been quicker. That should have been in and out in like 45 seconds, but I know people like the Dr. Fauci voice. I mean, it's one of those things that could go viral.
Who knows? It had to be said, though.
Well, he might need a podcast if he has to have more bills for all of his lawyers.
Yeah, it's going to add up for him. You know, he's only, I mean, he's not Musk. He can't hang forever. And if this, these three states start to bedevil him.
You're going to see some go-fundies for...
Who's paying for his lawyers now?
He had like a whole team of them.
So who's paying?
Six of them.
And one got bounced.
That was a very funny scene.
Because you can't take the fifth and then have somebody else trying to back you up.
But, you know, this whole thing comes down again.
We were all here for the vaccine.
And we had the audio on no agenda of all the people.
like, I'm not going to take a Donald Trump vaccine, but that changed magically then.
Yeah.
Once it became the Biden administration, and you brought on the last show a clip from this
RFK with Dana Bash, and this went on much longer.
We have an extended clip of things that we didn't even hear, which I thought was,
was quite interesting.
But you were saying, yes, I do.
You were part of the problem.
No, I wasn't part of the problem.
It was absolute press malpractice.
We're allowing your job.
Mr. Secretary, your job, your job is a furious skepticism toward authority.
And you weren't doing that.
You were beating up on people.
No.
Okay.
Are you going to, you want to sit here and attack me?
Or do you want to have conversations about public health?
I'm not attacking you.
I'm asking.
I like that we have a CNN anchor speaking to.
speaking to somebody like this
like they're in kindergarten.
It's just beyond the pale, really.
Hmm.
You know, it's like, I'm not going to say it.
It's very strange.
Yeah.
Again, journalists,
I don't know if they have
journalisming classes anymore.
Not in too many places.
A lot of colleges have canceled it
because they know it's a dying art.
It is. I guess, you know, you can't make much money
because now AI is just going to take a few little blurbs
from your favorite social media
and then create a story that doesn't have any real proof behind it.
But I remember taking a simple journalism class back in the day
and it was who, why, what, where, and how.
Those were the five things that had to be in every story.
And I guess if you go and try to break down the stories you're seeing today, whether you're listening to them or reading them, I bet you most are missing multiple parts of that equation.
Or do you want to have conversations about public health?
I'm not attacking you.
I'm asking questions about how to prevent the next.
And I'm not attacking you.
I'm just asking questions.
I'm just asking questions, Larry.
But I mean, they're very pointed and rude.
questions, but I'm just asking questions.
Like, why are you a crook?
You know, I'm just asking questions.
Why are you being dishonest?
I'm just asking questions.
That's what I'm trying to do.
But I also don't want to use this interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely
true.
You're talking about therapeutics, fine.
It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked.
Factually true.
Whoa!
Oh, let's back that up a second.
Worked for whom?
Wow, wow.
She should talk to Stephen A. Smith.
He actually got boosted.
He almost croaked.
Yeah, worked great.
Worked perfect.
No, didn't hurt anybody either.
There were no side effects at all.
So there's only two answers to this question, Darren.
She's either a complete imbecile or she's getting some piles of scrylla from the pharmaceutical people to say this.
I'm guessing the pharmaceutical people do put some money.
towards advertising on CNN.
They certainly do.
We know what CNN does,
but I mean, maybe even personally she's getting a pipe.
I mean,
it's,
to make that kind of statement
in these times,
after all that's happened,
is mind-blowing.
It really is.
Yes, there was another story
that was breaking, breaking,
this week that there were no good clips on.
But there was an initiative
called the Tarbell
Fellowship.
The Tarbell.
Tarbell Fellowship, which has nothing to do with the Fauci or the vaccine, but it is about AI and paying people to cover stories for AI.
So as we move on over the next week or two, this may more and more come out.
But it seems that there is a third party paying the people to write about AI, which is then being published in places.
like, well, you know, the New York Times or CNN or all of these outlets.
So, you know, you can trust the reporting.
Trust the science.
When the money is coming from, you know, a third party that maybe has some skin in the game
and maybe wants to push you in one direction or not.
Yeah.
But RFK, yeah, he and Dana Bash continue to argue, which is,
and rightfully so once she just dropped that bombshell.
I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about...
You talk to scientists, can you look, can you show me one study?
Yes, I can.
That shows that children were protected by the COVID vaccine.
I can tell you that there are...
That vaccine did more good than harm to children.
Can you show me one study that shows that?
I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine,
disinformation, disinformation, there could have been...
100 to 200,000 lives in the U.S. saved.
But because people didn't get the vaccine, that's why I'm not saying that it entire.
You are saying nonsense.
You are saying something that you cannot show me a single story.
I am not saying nonsense.
You are talking with.
That's, there's an ISO.
I am not saying nonsense.
Well, he asked very specifically if he, she could name a study that showed that the,
COVID vaccine did not do more harm than good to children.
I'll bet you she could show such a study,
and it would be totally bogus,
and Bobby could shoot out the guts of it in two seconds.
Well, yeah, but she didn't.
I mean, that's the beauty here.
She's like, yes, I can.
There's probably something.
I mean, there was when it was in progress.
There was all kinds of bogus information.
They were floating in front of people's faces, and it was lies.
But she said she could do it right there and then didn't when he's like,
okay, what is it?
She's a bigger coward than Fauci.
Oh, yeah.
Okay. A single...
I am not saying nonsense.
You are talking what...
Excuse me.
Somebody told you.
Stop.
That's the way of the put that with I'm not talking nonsense.
Excuse me?
Yes.
Again, this is somebody that's supposed to be covering the news in a serious manner.
No.
I am not saying nonsense.
You are talking what...
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
And you...
What study?
What study?
No, what studies are you talking about?
You're talking about studies that actually don't exist.
I want to talk about.
You're not...
I am not here to defend it.
You say you're saying studies, cite me the study.
This is not productive.
I am not here to defend all of the...
Let me finish.
You're talking nonsense.
You're making assertions.
You can't support it.
Yeah, I'm not here to support what I'm saying.
It's like, but you're the one saying it, madam.
She's the one that brought it up.
Yeah.
He's the guest on her show.
She's being argumentative.
and he's asking her for proof and she says,
I can give you proof. And you're like, okay.
And then it's like, well, I mean, we're not right now.
I can't give you any proof.
But like so many of these people, it comes from their incredible ego that they have.
Let's just look at who the participants are here.
Dana Bash is a professional teleprompter reader.
That's what she does.
Bobby the K is a very, very top flight successful litigator.
Okay.
You really don't want to get in an argument with that guy.
unless your guns are properly loaded and hers were not.
And she should have known that going into that interview.
You're not going to win with him unless you're really, really set to go
and you're good with your verbiage.
So she got her ass kicked.
Sorry.
It is a completely different skill set being able to.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of really smart people who, given the time,
could maybe come up with a coherent argument.
But there are other ones like Marco Rubio seems to be,
and J.D. Vance, to a little lesser degree, very quick with the answers and able to back it up,
which is why those interviews are always fun to watch as well.
Have you noticed one guy that hasn't appeared anywhere at all?
Recently?
Arbit Bula, Pfizer.
He's not quite, nothing.
Why would that be?
You never know.
Whatever happened to Vivek?
All right, he's in Ohio, right?
Ohio. That's a forbidden zone. And this is the ending of that little three part here.
Let me just say for the record that I am not saying that the entire way that the COVID reaction
was accurate. It was a scary time and people made mistakes. Absolutely. You were scaring people.
Why are you saying that? Because that was the job of CNN. Okay.
Was to put the chiron's up. How many people are dying? We were trying to be. Yeah.
He's not wrong.
He's telling the truth.
To be fair, it wasn't just CNN.
It was Fox and ABC.
I don't think there was one news organization on television.
No.
That wasn't playing the Johns Hopkins numbers and reporting on them like every five minutes.
Oh, more people are dying.
Yeah.
So it wasn't just CNN.
The funny thing is, though, it was John Hopkins numbers at the end of the movie.
revealed the truth
because America
with a mere 360 million people
had more than twice the number of deaths
of any other nation on earth
including India, China.
So, hey, what went wrong in America?
Hmm, something did.
At that point, they stopped talking about
Johns Hopkins.
It was mishandled a little bit,
you think? Yeah.
Well, it's also what happens when
you take the medical care of your citizens and politicize it.
Politicizing that kind of thing is not going to help.
It just simply isn't.
I mean, being honest and transparent would be what would help.
But when, and it started with Donald Trump,
people like, oh, these guys never say anything bad about the Republicans.
Well, Donald Trump really, really, really wanted the win of having the vaccine.
And he made it happen.
But the vaccine was not perfect.
But it's hilarious that the one thing they could have maybe got Trump on, like, oh, no, I'm really surprised the Democrats didn't go with.
Vaccine was dangerous.
See, Donald Trump did it because they tried to take credit for it first.
Yeah, but then they'd all be wrong.
So they can't do that because they were behind the vaccines and the masking and the closures of the world, you know, the shutdowns.
But the fascinating thing about that is it's the power of its politicization, but it's also the power of the, of those pharmaceutical companies because, remember, Trump came up with his Operation Warp Speed, right?
And then all reports claim that Borla and his buddy over to Moderna, they intentionally withheld releasing the vaccine until Joey was elected president.
And that very likely was a major contributor to Trump's loss.
So the power of those guys wielded.
I think that in some way transcended politics because it was all sub-roza.
You know, nobody ever said that at the time.
It just kind of happened.
Very scary.
Yeah, Donald Trump got him a bunch of money,
and then they're like, well, we still want the other guy.
We want the other guys.
We're going to hold his back.
Yeah.
And knowing what they know, that it would cure nothing and protect no one,
it's not like they killed any more people.
Really?
It's going to be a long time before.
If anybody ever does get to the accurate data on what is,
and what is not the fault of the vaccine.
And it's hard because including people like Dr. Fauci with his problems that he had,
we covered that on the last show as well,
didn't report it to VERS near.
Here's actually, we have a going back clip on that.
You can never prove causation, but the whole, you know, the whole purpose is, the whole system is based upon people being honest about reporting all of the entries that happened after vaccine, after that vaccine.
And then, you know, you do an allerst and you say, hey, we're seeing elevated levels of this, that and the other, if you don't report it, no,
can make those kind of analysis and he did not report his he didn't report it to the
VAIR system he didn't tell the public and you know if so anyway that was that he's not it's not
he's a guy who claims to be science itself but is rejecting the scientific method on being
able to find out of something is safe or not right because the VAERS database was about
not proving anything but tracking is much evident
as possible. So if he believed in that, Dr. Fauci, and he ended up getting a pulmonary infarction
himself, but not reporting that. The question then has to be, again, why do you not believe
that the system works? Or is this all just a scam? Well, it is all a scam. And if you think about it,
overwhelmingly, the ardent support for all of that crap for the vaccines and the masking and the
mandates and the shutdowns, everything. It was very much from the left. Joey and Company, right? They were the ones.
And let's look, what's the first thing the left always does? They screw around with the vocabulary.
The CDC actually went in there and revised the definition of the word vaccine so it would conform to the
garbage that they were injecting into people. And it's not a vaccine at all. If you think about it,
I mean, it should have been called what it was, experimental gene therapy, but that never got any traction.
Things like polio, tetanus, smallpox.
Yeah, those were vaccines.
People got them, and they didn't get those illnesses.
This was complete crap, but they still called it.
And it was really sad as guys like Bobby the K and other right-winger's still referred to it as vaccine.
You know what it's exactly like?
They're not illegal aliens.
They're migrants.
Right, it's really kind of an immunotherapy more than a, you know, maybe it's like taking zinc, you know, before you hop on
an airplane in the hopes that'll help you
Well, I don't know. Nobody ever got a turbo cancer from zinc.
Not that we know. I wouldn't put it in a class with zinc.
I thought this was interesting as well because people in the media mainly want to make
RFK Jr. out to be a complete vaccine skeptic, a complete anti-vaccine guy.
But here he is talking about the measles vaccine.
One, that, you know, a vaccine that is actually a vaccine.
RFK Jr. is now urging parents to get their children vaccinated against measles.
He made that statement in an interview on CNN, State of the Union with Dana Bash.
The comments come after criticism over his response to recent outbreaks, including a Texas outbreak that grew to nearly 800 cases and killed two children.
Pennsylvania has reported more than 167 confirmed measles cases as the U.S. faces its highest number of measles infection in 35 years.
A measles vaccine is effective.
It stops measles in about 97% of the cases.
People should get vaccinated.
Yeah, officials say the most infections involve people who are unvaccinated
or whose vaccination status is unknown.
Experts warn outbreaks can continue in areas where vaccination rates fall below 95%.
Well, it's interesting that they're like,
or ones that vaccination rates are unknown.
Well, they could be vaccinated.
So, I mean, you don't.
You can't really put data on somebody if it's an unknown.
You can't use that as proof if it's unknown.
I want to hear that again.
Yeah, officials say the most infections involve people who are unvaccinated
or whose vaccination status is unknown.
No, it can't be.
The unknown thing doesn't add to anything.
But that's okay.
You don't really expect the news media to actually know.
that is a true vaccine, 97 or so percent effective in preventing something, which for everybody
around remembers that that's the bill of goods we were sold on the COVID vaccine.
It was 100 percent, safe and effective.
Oh, you weren't going to get it.
You weren't going to be, you weren't even going to be able to transmit it if you had the vaccine.
Yeah, but remember how they started to dial it back.
It was like, it's 95.
Burla, I remember 95% of the vector.
98, 97.
93, 85, 73.
And then when I got down around in the mid-60s, they just dropped it.
Like, now it's not, now he sounds stupid.
So forget that.
They went away with the percentages.
It was really funny to listen to and watch.
Well, and it's funny going back, and I think the clip was on no agenda.
You ever never miss an episode of Howie Mandel arguing that they never said it was 100% and never that it was going to keep.
like, yeah, they did.
Yeah. But people remember different things, and people are confused because they don't know
exactly where to get their information. I thought this was an interesting clip from
Big Bill O'Reilly. I mean, he's been like 50 years in journalism. And I thought this made a
really interesting point on the state of where news is today. And I see a very big sampling
from around the world of what people are interested in.
And one thing that has risen dramatically this year is confusion.
So many human beings, Americans and everybody else,
they don't know or understand what is happening.
And therefore, they are susceptible, crazy stuff.
all right because they don't really know the basis of how President Trump for example makes a decision
or why trends are happening in our society or AI or social media what are the
implication they're confused and I'm saying this to be super silliest word of the day
I'm saying it because it's true.
And it's my job here at the No Spend News to clarify.
This is what our job is, to clarify, not to root, not to, you know, push in ideology.
We don't do that.
And some people get mad.
Some people don't even watch, they want to hear Republicans are good or Democrats are good.
That's what they want to hear.
Okay, I got it.
Not what we do here.
clarity is what we shoot for.
And is he right 100% of the time, or does he always keep his bias out?
No, but this is what...
No, but he bloviates 100% of the time.
That he does.
Dude, he's Irish, like you and me.
This is why...
No, but I'm not a bloviator.
I mean, he's a pain in the ass, really.
That guy's like, please...
Oh, come on.
You've been known to bloviated a time or two.
I never bloviated.
I never bloviated.
I'm accused of many, many, many things, many crimes.
Guilty of most.
Bloviation, not one of them.
But it's true that people...
are completely unaware of the world around them, how to get valid information, which is why,
you know, we highly recommend the No Agenda Show.
Yes.
Because that is part of the goal, which is to go, hey, here's what the news media is doing
and try to put this in a way that people can understand and tell them, well, this is why
maybe this source is being a little less than honest.
And a lot of what you're seeing now in the news is comedy-related.
And I think it's funny.
A lot of people are like, they kept making fun of Bernie Sanders.
It's like, well, there's a good reason.
And even Bill O'Reilly got in on it as long as we had that bill.
It's double up.
It's not about chocolate kids.
I know.
You like it.
I'm going to get you nice in the right mood.
I'm going to go make a sandwich.
Okay.
That's what Sanders wants.
All right?
It's about the government telling the children what to think.
what to think, how to behave, circumventing the traditional parenting, because the communists know
that out in the heartland, those people are never going to buy into the communist movement,
ever. Get the kids. And it's happened in colleges, American colleges, very fine institutions,
have collapsed under the weight of progressive politics.
So don't say it's not possible.
Bernie Sanders has got to be the happiest guy in the country.
The discussion was that Sanders and Mandami in New York are demanding universal child care.
But it's not really child care.
Not.
And it would be 10% of the New York.
city budgets they can never pay for it. It's getting control of the children in a setting where they
can be indoctrinated. And that happens in every communist country from Vietnam to the Soviet Union
to get the kids. And that's what Bernie Sanders and Mandani in New York City are desperately trying to
do. Do you know that? Media will never report it. That's a
exactly what has happened.
Can you disagree with that?
Well, I can say that's a blinding glimpse of the obvious,
and it's been going on for about 70 years.
It was happening way before Mamdani.
What is this boomer slop you guys are playing?
What are you doing?
What is this?
What is going on here?
Bill O'Reilly?
Does anyone watch that guy anymore?
Please.
I'm being pummeled by this,
I'm telling you. I have learned. I mean, I under, there were times that
JCD would know how to trigger you and there were times you would know how to trigger JCD.
That's the fun of the show, isn't it? Well, I'm triggered. For sure. Me too.
I'm sitting here. I'm like, I've got to jump in with these guys now because this is going off the rails.
Can I just thank you both so much for jumping in, man. This has been so good for me.
and of course I've listened to you.
Mimi has not listened at all.
She's just been cleaning up,
cleaning up the house.
She's told me stories, man.
She's told me stories.
But you, I mean, you stepped into this
and just took it over and were just driving the bus.
I'm so appreciative of that.
This is really, and by the way,
hello trolls.
Stupid trolls.
Good to see y'all.
I only have one comment on on everything you've been doing.
Only one.
And it's Darren, it's you.
Uh-oh.
I should run.
When unite somebody, you have to hit them with the sword.
You know, you have to hit them.
You got to hit them.
You got to hit them.
You got to hit them.
We did it the last time.
I think the first time we missed the hitting.
I must have missed it.
It must have drowned out.
They're all like black nights or non-hit nights.
there's something that they'll call themselves.
Yeah.
So I guess I should tell you what's going on.
Tell us.
Man, first of all, I have Survivor's guilt.
This is very weird.
I didn't expect this.
And it's really like there's been two deaths.
I'm not trying to equate one with the other.
But John just being gone all of a sudden was just was weird, you know?
Yes, sure.
And of course, we never texted.
We never spoke with, I mean, there was really any time that we talked except on the show.
We talked right before, you know, and really, when I took over the stream, you know,
the first time we talk is after the fat lady and being, you know,
he either have his robot voice or something wrong with his settings.
And of course, he never changed a thing, obviously.
Right.
And then we just do the show.
And then after the show, you'd be surprised.
I mean, it was literally, I'd turn off his noise gate
so I could hear what he was doing,
which is typically eating something or shaving.
That I thought he shaved, really?
Electric razor?
Okay.
Yes, yes.
I'm like, that's disgusting.
Stop it.
Be shaving.
And, you know, because throughout the show,
I'd mark different spots that we might use for the opening,
the opening bit.
And so I'd, you know, gather them all and then cue them and say, you ready?
Okay, and I'd play him.
Then we'd decide what we wanted.
Then it would be credits.
Then we'd look for the art.
Then the show title.
And then he would basically just hang out and doodle and do whatever he was doing
until we both confirmed that the show was up,
confirmed that it was on the site because there's all these moving parts.
The RSS feed has to go.
The OPML file has to be right.
direct has to be in place. And then if you're lucky, refresh, refresh, it shows up on
no agenda show.net. And then literally, all right, talk to you Thursday. Okay, bye. That
will be it. That would be it. And so that ended, but I also realize that what we did
ended, you know, what we did was not Adam and John. It was the combined thing, you know,
And I've seen some, there's this one guy who's on X.
I just love what he's doing.
He's grieving in his own way, as I see many people doing.
And he's going through every single show from episode number one.
And he's making a post about his impressions.
Right.
And he gets to episode seven.
He's like, oh, wait a minute.
Now I see.
It was never really about the news deconstruction.
It was you guys.
Oh, yeah.
But, you know, that really hit me hard because I realize I can't recreate that.
You know, I can't.
No matter what I do.
And then I've been looking at the five stages of grief.
And one of those stages is negotiation.
And I can see no agenda nation negotiating, you know, with, well, you should do it with so.
someone got to you should do the show with
Jen Briny. I'm like, okay,
can you get to the anger stage, please?
You need to move on.
I like
Jim Briney, but they're like,
no, no, no.
And okay, this is a
this is a crap analogy
because, you know, people say, well, it was like
Laurel and Hardy, Simon and Garfunkel.
I'm like, no, scratch Simon and Garfunkel.
But in a way,
Lennon McCartney, not that we are anywhere
near the level of that genius, but you know,
They basically made songs with three chords.
You know, and it was a moment in time.
And then when the band broke up, you know, to this day,
people still talk about the Beatles.
Right.
You know, and I'm sure if Lenin hadn't been shot,
he would have still had, you know, a career doing stuff apart from McCartney.
Maybe once in a while they get together and do some kind of show.
You know, and people have called me and said, well, you know, it's like Rush.
Now, I'm not a big Rush fan.
I never was either.
You know, I never really got the appeal of it.
Oh, I like to.
I never got that.
Was it Mexican radio?
No, that was R.E.M.
What was the spirit of radio?
Was that Rush?
Right.
I mean, really, the Prague stuff I never really got into.
More with the rock and roll pre-show with people that would request it.
And then you realize these are some damn good musicians.
And it's, well, that's what, all the rush fans in my life, and there's two.
And one is Dave Jones from podcast, podcasting 2.0, podcast index.org.
We've been friends for 16 years.
And, but he's not one of those rabid ones.
Like, okay, I hear you.
But he's definitely like best band in the world.
Best band in the world, hands down.
The other one, who else you think is a big rush fan that you would know?
Yeah, yeah.
You have to give it.
Andrew Horowitz.
No.
Really?
Yes.
And they both gave me the same analogy.
And I drew the same conclusion.
They said you went the drummer, Neil Pert, I think, Neil Pert.
Yes.
So he died.
And they brought in.
Yeah, well, basically, they're like, oh, the band is over.
It's dead.
It's over.
It's no good.
And then they brought in the German woman, who is a really good drummer.
And so they both said.
But, you know, so when they play the sphere in Vegas, I'll go.
I say, yeah, I don't want to be like a nostalgia act.
Right.
You know, it's like, oh, well, when, you know, when they do this or that,
then I'll go and check them out, you know.
And so this has been the hardest, hardest thing for me,
because at the same time, I'm going to be 62 in September.
You know, what do I want to do with the rest of my life?
Do I literally have 18 more years?
you know, do I get to be 80?
Do I get to be 90?
I don't know.
You know, what do I want to do?
That's a weird question.
You know, when you've been doing something for going on 19 years,
like, do I want to continue this?
Is, you know, do I want to spend years building up a new rapport with somebody?
I mean, I don't have the answers.
I really don't.
It's just, you know, I also don't want to be the silver beetles, you know.
And I don't want no agenda to become the silver beetles.
And what really hit me the hardest is there's a saying.
It's actually biblical scripture, but you've heard it in different context.
You can't put new wine into old wine skins because they'll burst and you ruin both.
And so I'm still struggling with how this needs to move forward, but I am certain of one thing that it is,
Up to No Agenda Nation who have always, always driven the show.
I mean, we started off with 25 minutes and literally said,
this is going to be a show without jingles, without sound effects, no nonsense.
We're just going to be talking, and that'll be it.
And it wasn't it.
You know, it started with numerology, with donation numbers as we quickly figured out the value for value model.
and I don't think I have produced a single bit or anything for the show ever,
except I did the fisting nuts.
I produced that.
That was great.
And that was Emmy Award winning.
Thank you.
I'm waiting for my golden globe.
But everything else was produced by No Agenda Nation.
And so when you guys step in,
And, damn, you have a great rapport.
And of course, you know, people like, well, it's not this.
It's not that, yeah, but of course it's not.
Of course it's not.
Of course it's not.
Are you having fun, by the way?
Do you enjoy it?
No, not at all.
What was your answer?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm asking you, I guess, is it weird?
You haven't done Planet Rage.
You've put that in abeyance while you're doing this?
Yeah, I mean, I can only talk to Larry for so many hours a week.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
I mean, the weirdest thing is, you know, no agenda was the place that I got a majority of my news if I wasn't listening to the boomer Bill O'Reilly.
So now it's like, oh, wait, I have to pay attention to more news sources.
And so, I mean, for that part, it's a little weird, but it is an honor to be able to keep up the tradition, which is, you know, this is your show anytime you want it back.
So that's, you know, kind of what we're going into this with the mindset.
And it's Larry likes the negative comments as well.
It's like, hey, we're just doing what we can do to do a show in the similar vein to keep people entertained.
And it's like, well, what do you do if your choice is this or nothing?
Then you get to choose.
That is the bottom line.
What have you been doing to West and Wewax, Adam?
That's what I was wondering about.
To Western We Wax?
Western We Wax.
Well, I mean, there's also
there's other stuff going on.
You know, I have a granddaughter.
And she was literally born
within 24 hours, you know,
span of JCD passing away.
So that was like a crazy.
And we'd just gotten back from Europe.
We waited two weeks.
Baby didn't come.
You know, had to come back
for all kinds of reasons.
And so, you know,
been trying to schedule to go back,
which we're doing at the end of the month.
Of course, there's been a ton of stuff that we've had to arrange.
I mean, John and I started no agenda on a handshake.
I don't think we even shook hands on it.
It's like, oh, I'll do this, okay.
I'll do the production, you do all the back on, whatever.
And that was kind of it.
And it grew out a little bit more.
And we wound up, you know, bring, well, Eric the Schill, of course,
we had him initially doing back office.
And he moved to South Dakota and Jay stepped in.
And by the way, Jay has been the rock star of, I mean, this young woman who is, I think, 30, about 30,
but maybe a little bit over 30, who was pregnant.
You know, she's having a baby in October.
She has just jumped in, this doing the newsletter, is still managing spreadsheets and back office and people with,
questions, but has also been really there for her mom. She's been managing the entire memorial.
So I've been tendentially involved in that. So I pick up the phone as often as I can to talk to Mimi,
see how she's doing. What was really cool, she got, this is, this is, this is no agenda nation,
our producers. I'm not sure exactly. Well, I kind of know, but without outing anybody,
the president and the first lady
sent a beautiful note
to Mimi.
Wow.
And it was signed and everything.
It was just like, you know, and rightly so.
This is, you know, this is kind of our spooks out there
who are like, hey, man, we love you guys.
We're just going to talk to the president,
have him dash off little note.
Wow.
I mean, stuff like that.
And she's, you know, she's cleaning up the house
and she's finding all kinds.
Literally there's an envelope, a huge envelope filled with stuff that John was going to send to me with stamps and everything.
Just never sent it.
So John was actually a bit of a hoarder.
That wasn't a bit.
No, he was a 100% hoarder.
That's why I was never allowed to, and no one will ever see the office, I guess.
I think Mimi's going to lock that down and burn it and torture, whatever she's going to do.
But it also, I was talking to Tina about this.
being an archivist or a hoarder is useless.
It absolutely is.
I mean, he didn't get to do anything with it.
Now it's just a big pain in the butt.
Yes.
You know, he has hollow books everywhere with stuff inside of it.
I mean, that's not like it.
So, but of course, you know, when we kind of got the warning shot when he went in for his double bypass, you know, that's when we realized like, oh, okay, passwords.
Well, you hadn't really kept up with the passwords.
So we were lucky that we got everything.
But there's, you know, going back to a handshake.
So eventually the IRS said, what's out with all these checks in this cash?
Right.
What are you guys?
What's these checks for $3.33?
You know, what kind of racket are you guys running?
So we, you know, and they said, well, we think you should have an LLC and here's how you should do it.
And so we did that.
And so it was 50-50.
And, you know, you realize that there's bank stuff and all kinds of things that you, you know, you can't, you can't do unless one of the two owners of the LLC is there.
So, you know, when I go to, we're leaving tomorrow for San Francisco for the memorial on the, on the eighth on Saturday.
You know, Monday we're going to the bank.
So there's just a lot of stuff that has to be fixed and wrapped up and, you know, taken care of.
And in the meantime, it's been very interesting.
Again, Tina and I, we've had to really lean into our faith, too.
I mean, it's like, what is going on?
I mean, overnight, everything changed.
Everything.
You know, you always think, oh, I have a little bit more time to do stuff and figure stuff out, what I want to do.
And so we don't have that luxury.
Yeah.
And, you know, no matter what happens, obviously, it's going to affect our income.
income. That's just that's just the fact of life.
You know, people are going to fade out.
New people will come in no matter, no matter
what happens, no matter what goes on.
So we're just trying to figure out
where we, where we stand
and, you know, what plans do we
have.
Yeah.
And...
Maybe you need to get yourself in a Zen state
at him and sort of throttle back
and everything, you know. Like,
I'm seeing you on a pontoon boat
maybe on Lake you can.
And Mimi has a super
soak or filled with chilled crebiano.
And every so often she just kind of gives you a little,
just a sprit. Yeah, yeah.
Hit me it. You know, and then you get in that kind of place where things sort of,
you get out of the, out of the weeds and the fog and things become more clear, I think.
Yeah, and I do want to thank Sir Chris Wilson and Mike Riley and Dame Kenny.
There's a lot of people that have popped back up that were kind of going under the radar to
pitch in.
You're making a great point.
This is what I love.
what I'm seeing and this is what I would love to see more of while, while you guys are sitting here
in this spot. First of all, I'm not leaving. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I'm just not sure,
but obviously no agenda is a part of my life. There's no doubt about that. But I do want to
do some other things as well.
And I love seeing people coming back and saying, oh, no, no, no, no.
We can do stuff.
We can continue to reinvent no agenda.
By the way, if anyone can fix that horrible opening jingle I made for the guys,
please do something completely different.
We need to retire that stuff.
I'm with you.
Whatever it is, please, somebody send something for Sunday show.
Just get rid of that.
That has to, you know, that has to end.
You know, those, I mean, that's just has to end.
You know, put to create a new wine skin, please, for these gentlemen.
Right.
Something that seems a little more, you know, new as opposed to your, you popped into dimension B
and you're hearing a different no agenda.
Yes.
Yes. So while we have this opportunity, let's freshen things up a little bit.
And I say that because, again, I never did any of this work, ever.
I mean, I didn't create the opening. I don't remember who did.
I know the first voice is Dave Fox, double X, Dave Fox.
He was the voice of Z-100 and, what would, they got bought, did they get bought by Cumulus, I want to say?
that he was doing production for, you know,
whatever big radio network Z-100 eventually became a part of.
And he did those years and years and years ago.
I think he's in Texas now.
He's retired.
It's probably 100.
But it's also been interesting, you know, how friends of ours recognize what we're going through.
All our friends know about the show.
All of them listen or listen sometimes or check-in.
and, you know, they've been, like, taking us out to dinner, you know, a spur of the moment, which is really, really sweet.
And, of course, I'm like, well, since they got no job, you got to pick up the tab.
And, but I've been, you know, the two people who I notice are really hurting along with everybody is Horowitz.
he, you know, he just had a meniscus operation, so he's kind of immobile right now, but I can tell.
You know, it's like he's suffering too.
His show, D.H.U.N. Plug, was on almost as long as no agenda.
Yeah, it started like a year or so after, I think, right?
Maybe even less than a year. Yeah.
So he's going through the same thing. It's like, well, now what do I do?
Oh, completely. Completely.
And he's done the show with Buskill Jr.
But it's this exact same problem.
Andrew and John would talk about stocks and financial markets and turkey sandwiches.
You know, and wearing crocs or whatever or Speedo shoes or whatever nonsense they got into.
So he's going through a very similar thing.
And of course, it was all a part of no agenda nation.
and there was cross-promotion and stuff like that.
Now, the other person, which has been quite,
I didn't realize it right off the bat, is Dana Brunetti.
He and John would talk all the time.
Really?
Yeah, I didn't know this.
And, you know, Brunetti, essentially,
I think he gave up on Hollywood and, you know, bought the farm
and, you know, put all of his scandalous sex movie money,
you know, 50 shades of gray.
Fifty shades pays off.
That's right. Put it into land.
And he said, I've never worked as hard on my life.
And, you know, he's out on the ranch.
But, you know, he would take his gummy in the evening and called Dvorak.
And so now he's calling me.
I'm like, dude, you know, wrong time zone.
I'm sitting down to dinner right now.
I can't talk to you.
But, you know, so I talk to him.
So this week is.
It's still, you know, weird, obviously, because after we get on a plane tomorrow,
and I got to think about what I'm going to say at the memorial.
I don't know.
What do you say at a memorial?
What am I going to wear?
What am I going to say?
Right.
You know, I said it all on the show.
I don't want to be, I don't want to be reading from a piece of paper.
There's going to be all kinds of interesting people there.
You remember the good times.
You remember the laughter.
I mean, that's it.
you and this. You know, there are
times when people die
where it's, you know, they're young and nobody
saw it coming. They didn't have a full
life. That's sad. JCD lived
a kick-ass life.
Well, you could just go for a laugh
and say what you're saying in Dutch.
We don't know
what he's saying.
Oh, man.
Yeah, maybe I'd just do
that. Remember the time when he
took a gummy and he was still high the next
day and he got on the show?
Why not?
Show number, please.
I'd like to go back.
I can't remember what that was.
Go to binget.io.
And so Sunday,
I'd love to check in with you guys again
to tell you about the memorial,
how everything went.
Now, there's also Jay's baby shower on Sunday,
which is actually scheduled for Saturday,
because 8-8 is the Dvorak's number,
as you know, that's also their wedding anniversary,
so lots of eights.
And, man, I'm expecting a crap ton of meetup reports.
Have you seen the meetup list that's taking place this coming weekend?
It's crazy.
That really warms my heart, man, that there's so many people just want to, yeah, memorialize John, think about him, you know, get together.
And I hope that continues.
These meetups, I hope if this show blue.
up right now that people would still do that. That is the win of this show. Have you ever been to a
meet up, Larry? A couple of them. Yeah. Terrific. I mean, I got to meet Dame Kenny Bennett one here in
Connecticut. Oh, perfect. Perfect. And what's so great about him is that you get together like,
I never would have met this person unless it was a no agenda meet up. And people who are
inherently introverted and shy and, you know, I've seen it over and over again. They come to the
meet up. They're like, they open up. Hey, this is my people. We're all messed up. We're all nuts.
We're all kooky. It's perfect. I love that. I hope that always continues.
And then we'll just see where we go. If you guys are good with me coming in on Sunday and
maybe we'll see what we do the next Thursday. That would really be good. If you don't,
I'll be mad at you.
Meanwhile, what's going on with Michigan, man?
What's going on with the, this is, this, tell me if I got this right.
Okay.
So now we all know Dearborn, Michigan, of course, you know, the Muslims are taking over.
I can't believe that I actually had to fight off some, some Islamists right outside my door here in Texas.
As you know, there's mosques everywhere.
It's just popping up all the time.
We're all going to die.
Now, Dearborn, and we have producers in Dearborn, they're like, yeah, there's a lot of Arab Americans, but, okay.
but you know, you look on, you look on X.
It's like you think that, you know, we're living in the Middle East
and the end is near.
But these Democrat socialists, these DSA guys,
so this, what is it, El-Sayed, is that his last name?
Abdul-El-Said.
So I think this is great.
And he's running for senator?
Is that it?
Yeah.
So this is great because, you know,
just because people who showed up to a primary voted this guy in,
and we know exactly how primaries work,
this guy will never be senator.
Not in Michigan.
You would think.
No, no, no.
No, we need more of these idiots.
More of these idiots need to be winning primaries.
But then the crazy thing is you had the,
what is the,
The guy that Trump backed for the Republican, for Michigan 8, I think it is.
What was his name? Hold on a second.
And that he knows everything about it.
Amir, Amir, yes, Amir Hassan.
Amir Hassan.
So I think what happened here, so Amir Hassan loses to a guy who had dropped out of the race, dropped out of the race.
and I think it's because
you know the media was so strong about
oh the Muslims are like oh that must be that Muslim guy
no I'm not going to vote for him
you know this country
our country is in big trouble
big trouble yeah I got
I brought some clips with me of the El Cyanid guy
first all right y'all look I wish I could tell you
that I was declaring victory right about now
turns out it takes a long time to count some votes in Michigan
It's a big state.
Listen to that cadence.
Who does he sound like?
Barama.
Yes.
He's like he's been hanging out with him having coffee.
That's amazing.
Look at his face.
He's been trained to smile by Mandami.
It never leaves his mug.
No kidding.
On his face.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Turns out it takes a long time to count some votes in Michigan.
Counts him vote in Michigan.
There.
Barack Obama.
It's a big state.
Big state.
Across.
that movement that we built, there was an inspiration in the idea that we could take our government back.
Take it back.
Government of the people, by the people, and for the people, instead of government of the corporations, by the special interests.
It's all 12 year olds. I can hear that.
Give me some free stuff.
A lot of that history was built on a set of foundational errors.
Whatever happens tonight.
we have a responsibility to assure
that we unite to make sure that Mike Rogers
never sees the inside of the U.S. Senate.
Now, this is interesting.
Mike Rogers is a tool.
We've always thought this guy was a loser, didn't we?
Yeah.
Wasn't this the, wasn't he like, he was a military guy
and he would always be on Fox and he was always talking about,
yeah, no, we got to do that.
Unless I have the wrong Mike Rogers in front of me.
I think that's the guy.
I think that's the guy.
So, first of all, you know, every, man, it's so funny to, I live in Hill Country, Texas.
And people here like, they're winning.
They're winning.
It's a primary, okay?
Shh, shh, shh, shh, it's a Democratic primary.
Calm down.
Yeah, but they're coming.
They're coming.
They're coming.
This is it.
We're done.
Just look at London.
Look at England.
Look at France.
Look at everywhere.
That took 25 years.
And you know why?
Because nobody voted.
The idiots stayed home when whatever, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And apathy, pure apathy.
And there's one other little interesting thing that happened here.
With his victory over Rep Halley Stevens behind him,
El Sayed will now face the challenge of trying to unify the split factions of the party ahead of the general.
That's no small task.
El Sajad and his progressive agenda were up against more than.
$60 million in outside spending and an opponent backed by top Democrats in Michigan and beyond.
But he had a lot of money of his own too. But of course, one of the sources of Haley-Stevens'
support came from APAC-related groups. Which became a really big talking point in this entire
run-up to the primary yesterday. What? A-Pak didn't rig the election? What? Israel didn't win?
They spent $60 million. What? Can we please?
Can we take that off the table once and for all?
Just because you got A-PAC money doesn't mean you're going to win.
There's the proof right there.
Yeah.
Ah.
It's insanity.
It really is.
I mean, you know, you say there's never going to win, but everybody said that about New York, too, with Mamm Dani at first.
Although New York's a slightly different system than.
Yeah.
They're stack ranked voting and it's a mayoral election.
And, you know, I think, but that, Mondani is.
definitely the writing on the wall.
Where I used to live in the UK in Guilford,
and my buddy still lives there.
He had clubs.
He had an awesome pole dancing clothes.
Just the best.
Michelle Harper, my buddy from Guilford.
It's good for the house in San Trope.
I mean, the works, right?
Perfect.
But everything has been shut down,
and there's a Islamist mayor.
And, you know, this is still a town building.
built around a church, you know, Church of England.
You know, the kids would all hang out.
Where are you going?
Going to the church grounds, you know, because it was just, it was a big part of the whole town.
And now they start off with Muslim prayer.
You know, the whole, it's just changed.
But it's because nobody, they just let it go.
They just say, oh, well, whatever, you know.
And it's like, we're Americans.
Like, what are we worried about?
just stop that.
Yeah, there's a little more fight, hopefully, like the Irish.
They're finally turning a little bit around and saying, no, we don't want this.
Which Irish?
Where are the Irish doing this?
Show me the Irish.
There were some of them when all of these, when was there a girl that was like beaten?
There was a bunch of things going on.
And, I mean, I'm not saying anything's going to change, but there were at least people in the streets that were trying to.
trying to do something, although will their government, listen, that's a different question.
Yeah, but you've got to run for government. That's the point.
You don't want mosques in your neighborhood? Get on the zoning board. Hello, it's not that hard.
There's three other people who might be your opponents. It's not that hard. I mean,
our church literally elected our mayor here in Fredericks, where we have 11,000 people,
1,000 people attend our church.
There's 20 churches in the area,
but I think we're one of the biggest.
And one of the guys in our church
say, yeah, I'm going to stand for mayor
because we don't really like this particular person
who's running for mayor.
We think, you know,
we think she has some liberal policies
that we don't want.
And so we motivated everybody to vote.
He won by 55 votes.
But it was only 600 votes.
you know, it wasn't like the whole town came out.
Right.
It's not that hard.
Now, arguably, when I interviewed him and did a podcast with him,
we had about 75 people listening.
Maybe that was it.
I don't know.
Who knows?
Who knows?
But it's not that hard.
You know, run for city council, run for school board.
Everyone's sit at home on their, on their phone.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, they want to bitch on X, but not actually.
Exactly. No, no. Now, the president, he just, he just bitches in front of large crowds.
The disaster known as not socialism, communism, it's communism. He's a communist.
And the polls were wronged again last night when they thought it would be a landslide victory for a hater of Jews and a hater of Israel.
This guy hates Jews. Somebody said, oh, that's a little strong. No, he hates Jews and he hates Jews.
Abdul El-Said. Do you believe this?
This could only happen to me.
Abdul El-Said, lovely gentleman. He's a man of hate. And now he's going around saying,
no, I love everybody. He doesn't love everybody. Put him in office. You're going to find out
what he loves. He doesn't love Israel. He doesn't love Jewish people. He hates him. He hates him
with a passion that burns in his heart and there's not a freaking thing he can do about it.
There's not a thing he can do about it because he hates him.
Yeah, and then of course we have the punchline.
He doesn't love Israel. He doesn't love Jewish people. He hates him when I watch Abdul.
He's full of shit.
There we get into everything else.
There we go.
That's your president, everybody. Let's see. This is CNN.
He's full of shit.
Before we get into everything else, and there's a lot for us to talk about, what is your response to the president?
I'm glad he thinks I'm a lovely gentleman. A lot of people think so.
Look, you know, this is the response that they have.
This, by the way, is the Mondani DSA training.
I think Mondani said this exact same thing.
Exact same response.
And these guys, they're organized, man.
They are definitely organized.
To the president.
I'm glad he thinks I'm a lovely gentleman.
A lot of people think so.
Look, you know, this is the response that they have.
You notice what he talked about.
First, look at the background.
It says no tax on tips.
The man can't stay on focus.
That's like the one thing that he did to offer any economic relief.
But instead of that, he's more focused on me and what I'm going to do while we're living through an affordability crisis that is generational.
People are paying nearly $5 in gas because of war he started.
And half the time, if he's not talking about me, he's talking about the drapes in his ballroom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
We had a clip of this guy last show, Adam, and it was so chilling because it was something he didn't believe was being recorded.
And he was talking to someone who was.
Oh, did he sound completely differently, like AOC?
Oh, totally different.
He sounded totally different.
But what he was saying was, it was really creepy because it wasn't like, I'm running for senator.
He was saying, I'm the guy.
that's going to craft the dialogue of the next president.
And I'm going to do it with memes.
I've got to dilute and reduce our policies to a level
where the masses can understand them more clearly.
In other words, camouflage them.
And it was incredible.
It was just like, what?
Who is this guy?
I mean, when I heard that, I thought,
is he just running for senator,
or is he part of some larger cabal of evil?
It was very, very creepy.
Well, the DSA, you know, that started with, how was the name of the group?
The freedom, Democrat, just justice Democrats, I think that was Chank from a chunk from Young Turks was a part of that.
Yeah.
They had quite a little machine going for a while.
And just to remind everybody, they literally found Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
in a bar and had her audition.
She thought she was just going for like an actress audition.
A much better paid role.
She was.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it's a good gig.
It's a good gig.
But no, at this point, she's molded.
She's a politician.
And we've been watching the West Wing.
We've been re-watching the West,
which I never really watched back in the day because, let's face it,
I was on MTV.
I'm going to waste my time.
You're really watching television, please.
Man, it's worth watching for two reasons.
One, you can see all of the policies of Obama, all of them, all of them.
But also, you see that how the sausage is really made.
And nobody gives a crap about the American people.
It's all about deals and who do we get for this.
And ultimately, it's like, oh, yeah, well, we want to have a national seatbelt law because it'll save $5,000.
It's all statistics that completely disconnected from the world.
And I think we should take some of that back.
Yeah, we can. And the way to do that is with free groceries.
Question about the essential basket of goods.
You said they're going to be 30% cheaper than they would be at the grocery store down the street,
or even if there's one not down the street, if it's a food desert.
How are you going to keep people from taking advantage of that deal, basically?
And is there going to be a limit on the number of items that someone can take that are discounted at that level from that essential basket?
So our RFP makes very clear that this is...
I love this answer.
picked up on this. Right. The RFP? The RFP, Mammani and his little associate lady there,
they talk about the RFP, which is a request for proposals. Right. Yeah. From a company.
That's like, you know, that's like a...
It's advertising. Well, yeah. I mean, I mean, I've written hundreds of RFPs when I was
doing websites and campaigns for big brands. And they would say, well,
RFP, you know, like Gillette, Gillette was a good, was a customer, it was a good example.
And their RFP called, can you imagine that there's a shareholders meeting and they ask about some very strategic thing?
And the chairman of Gillette says, well, our RFP says this.
What does that even mean?
Like, so you told, you have a request for proposals out there that is going to be hopefully answered properly and then it'll run well?
Who's running this?
eight commies well there you go so our rfp makes very clear that this is a program for new yorkers to be
able to put food on the table not a program for people to be able to make a quick buck through
reselling i'm going to pass it over to our edc had gpac to add some additional details what's your
name jb chak chad what's the name i love i love this but i'm going to pass that on to the person
who wrote the rfp because i really don't know what we're talking about exactly
Just imagine writing the RFP.
It's one page.
Make sure New Yorkers can put food on the table.
Well, crap, I'll do that.
All right, here's your free grocery store.
Now, give me the money.
And she does the same thing.
Yes, if you look at our RFP for the operator, we...
The operator, we don't even know who the operator is.
Isn't the city of New York the operator?
What is happening here?
They've got to hire five different people for one in each borough to do it.
What is going on?
Oh, man.
Yes, if you look at our RFP for the operator, we are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers, whether it be a sort of a library card, esk that and also we manage who's buying and that is focused on everyday New Yorkers.
So we are mindful of that.
And so we're going to make sure that we have all the things in place to make ensure that that does not happen.
Yeah, in other words, ID cards.
And of course, you know, the Fox News is all over that.
Like, well, you need an ID card to get free groceries, but not to vote.
And I see you, Sir Bemrose like, well, you can't stand for elections if it's all rigged.
Dude.
Dude, what kind of, that's like, what are you laying on your back?
With you, would you pause in the air?
This is so wrong.
Oh, no.
Don't give up, Sir Bemrose.
No.
Hey, we got paper ballots here in Fredericksburg.
I'll tell you that.
We just made sure that happens.
Yeah, bum, done.
Done, done, done.
I actually have a clip here
when he,
ma'am Downey went on Joy Reed
because you know,
when they're not really asking for ID.
We're talking about a city run grocery store,
one in each borough,
which by the way,
you do not need an ID to shop at a matter of...
Did you see the laugh tell I learned from Adam and John?
The laugh at you're not.
Yeah. Yeah.
Nice.
You do not need an ID to shop at
a matter what you've just heard
in the news of today.
We're talking about...
I know, it's like, really, dude, come on.
actually addressing the question of skyrocketing grocery prices.
We've seen in the last six or seven years alone, an increase in grocery prices of around 30%.
And we are going to be delivering a city-run grocery store, one in each borough, five in total,
that will have the staples of a shopping experience, an essential basket of goods that are discounted by 30% compared to typical retail prices.
And that is something that New Yorkers will be able to feel in their pocket.
Yeah.
Wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
So it's not free. It's discounted.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
So it's a nonprofit, essentially.
Well, they're basically saying they're going to lose about 20 some odd percent on every person that comes in the door, which is, it's a subsidy, but it's also going to create food deserts because if you're running a bodega near one of these places, you're probably not going to be selling any of the staples that this store will have for,
For as ever how long these stores last anyway.
Okay, this is interesting.
I thought it was going to be free.
Now, that, that was the initial cell.
It was like, oh, no.
Yeah, it's going to be free and everything will be groovy.
Well, free buses were sold too, right?
That didn't.
Yes, free buses.
Yeah, that hasn't happened either, I presume.
No.
But the wheels on the bus go round and round.
It's a clip of them and Danny singing it.
Right. Round wheels.
Singing it.
So this, he's basically playing on the affordability crisis.
The chairman of Bank of America was on CNBC in a different context because he was there to say,
who boy, we didn't go bankrupt because of that 24-year-old Wunderkind who had the AI hedge fund that blew up.
Did you follow that?
Not closely.
Oh, so it was this kid who was,
that I can say kid he's 24
X open AI
then he left with a lot of money
I'm sure he left he sold his inside
shares and he started a hedge
fund and he wrote this paper
which like the oil baron
sent it to me and all it like look at
this this is a genius this is boy wonder
this is fun it was like 80 pages
and it was all these complicated
formulas and you know stuff
with with you know like a
squiggle there and a
and an Ipsilon, all these different, I don't know what this means,
but basically invested my hedge fund, you'll get rich.
And he grew it from $3 billion to $45 billion.
And then, but it was all leveraged.
Yes.
And he had made a bet that the traditional software firms, you know,
that probably, I would say, like Salesforce and, you know,
lots of other companies that make specialized software for finance and other types of industries.
They would tank, and they didn't.
And so he got into short squeeze and then Bank of America through their Citadel,
Citadel, I think it is, their hedge fund bought them out, you know, pennies on the dollar or whatever.
Yes.
But that could have completely destroyed Bank of America.
So the guy was on in that context, and they asked him about, you know, about affordability.
And I think what he's saying here is true.
And this is something John and I would talk about all the time when it came to, are we in a depression?
Are we in a recession?
It was all really what we think we're in.
It's very good shape.
You know, we have, you know, you look at a lot of polls.
People talk about affordability and an affordability crisis.
Do you think we have an affordability crisis based on these numbers?
I think we have an affordability crisis because people believe there's an affordability crisis,
which will shape their behavior if it doesn't come in the line.
That's larger around housing and rent costs.
which are still rising, but a rising or less fast rate.
It's around insurance costs, which actually came back in line.
It's around food costs and gas cost.
And so if a deal gets worked out and gas prices come back down,
that takes away one of the concerns.
But it's a real issue.
It's just the say-do paradox is about as high as I've ever seen it.
So that's what the polls say, and it's how people feel.
Say-do paradox.
Say-do paradox.
I haven't heard that one before.
That's fresh.
and I think it's true.
I think you had a lengthy Dutch surname,
if I recall correctly.
No, it's not Dutch.
It's a Moineshan.
Oh, no, then it's a different kind.
It's a very similar story.
I think he lost like $65 billion.
It's this Wonder Kid,
and he published this vast document
that wowed everybody.
Moynihan?
No, it was something like Ockinshlaas.
It began with an A and ended with two S's.
I can't remember what was in the middle.
Yeah, but that's the kid.
I think that's the kid you're talking about.
Hold on a second.
Situational awareness.
Yes, that was part of the headline.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
That's the one.
Here's the intro.
Again, this firm, I'm told, began the year at around $3 billion in asset center management.
It had a high, as I said, a net NAV of $45 billion as of July 1st,
and you know what the month has been like since.
NAB is net asset value for those wanting to know.
And so huge reversals, huge losses, how to cover them, and has done so, the bulk of its public equities, as we've been reporting, but now we can tell you as well, has gone to Citadel.
The motivation behind Citadel buying this book? Your thoughts?
Well, first of all, they're up right now on it. I mean, they have ample liquidity to be able to actually, you know, there were, this has changed so much.
Of course, I knew a number of people who were negotiating for various parts of the portfolio through some of their prime brokers.
but if you can get it all done in one fell swoop with a firm like that.
Yeah, blah, blah.
Actually, I should have played this clip.
This is the breaking.
All right, let's bring in David Faber, who's back with us on an update on the hedge fund
situational awareness.
Yes.
We've been following, of course, all morning.
All morning.
May even have more in a moment, but let me just share with you what we can confirm,
which is that the bulk of the public equities portfolio at situational awareness,
the giant hedge fund that had net asset value of some $45 billion, led by that man at the beginning of July, has been sold to the hedge fund of Citadel.
Yes, has been sold.
So here's Moynihan, this was the original context, talking about, I think he's saying they dodged the bullet.
Let me ask you a question on the other side of that, which is situational awareness.
They were a client of your firm.
You lent to them.
I think we're all still trying to grapple with the aftermath of that.
What happened?
And has anything changed in terms of your lending standards to hedge funds and other firms in the aftermath of this?
So one, two things. One, I think things changed as people saw this move and there's a natural adjustment period.
I think any time one of these happens and we're fine, et cetera, et cetera, you always look and say, okay, what happened?
Should we learn from it? Should you change?
And so the tendencies to tighten the underwriting standards is to hair to adjust, especially with big runups and stocks.
So we'll see what happens next.
But it's, these are all warning shots of, as Joe was talking about,
valuations get out, leverage and system gets there.
You have to be careful.
And we run a great shop and so, you know, that work.
Had Ken Griffin not come in though?
Yeah.
I mean, how damaging would have that been?
I think we'd have been fine.
You think based on the standards that we land on.
And that's that would be fine.
But it's, but the reality is, is that you have to be, you have to go learn from every lesson in the past.
And so the natural instinct of everybody that participates is,
Wait a second. Let's go back and look, and that has a tendency to push down a little bit.
Yeah, okay. That sounded to me like he dodged the bullet.
Oh, yeah.
Nothing bad could have happened. We'd have been good.
So you had the laugh tell by Mondani, Mamdani.
There was this other woman, ex-open AI board member, just to kind of stay in the AI stuff.
And so we've all been following the news.
how these AI Frontier Model Labs,
Frontier Model Labs,
how they all are selling that they have the best model
because, well, we broke into those guys.
Yeah, we broke into that.
And you know, meta just yesterday.
Well, our Muse Spark model, what a gay name that is,
our Muse Spark model.
It should have been Sparkle.
Yeah, right.
It broke, it also got out.
We have dangerous models, too.
So this is their marketing, which has turned, just turned everybody against AI.
It's crazy.
So here's a version of, well, so now, you know, the White House, they want, excuse me,
what these models want is to build what they call in business, a moat around their business
so that no one can touch them.
And the biggest problem is open source.
you know, open source models, I run them.
Darren, you run Whisper probably on your Mac.
Oh, yeah.
Whisper.
You know, there's no reason to pay these exorbitant prices for some basic work.
You know, it's like, no, it's not necessary.
So they want to have, you know, either an international panel or, you know, different
associations that determine if a model can be released.
I mean, you know, it's like, it's, all they really want is just legislation to protect their
business. That's what they want. And of course, that's not good. So, you know, the,
the White House is coming up with an AI testing framework. The White House today, hosting
companies to discuss the framework for federal testing of new AI models. President Trump is not
expected to attend. That meeting focuses on an executive order, though, that the president
signed back in June that set up a voluntary program for companies to test and vet AI systems
for safety issues before they're publicly released. The White House has not detailed the framework
itself and the standards used to test the models are remaining classified. NBC News White House
correspondent Yamish Alcindar joining us now to discuss more on this. So, Amish, what risk
I guess are this AI evaluation program designed to address?
And I think for many folks they're going to want to know,
is this a precursor to perhaps a push for more regulation around AI?
Of course we're on regulation.
So ABC brings on this ex-open AI board member.
I'm sure it was a woman who was pushed off, pushed out, get out.
You're a pain in the butt.
You're, you know, they changed from a nonprofit to protect the world from the dangerous AI.
She was probably in one of those orgy cult things.
What was that called?
Like the Sam Bankman-Fried stuff?
The polygule thing going on.
Yeah, yeah.
What was the, it wasn't the altruism?
Effective altruism, was that?
Yeah, that sounds like it.
Effective altruism?
And so she is part of, you know,
1,300 employees that are saying,
hey, we need an emergency break.
We need a brake pedal.
We need a rip cord.
Something to stop it when these models go out of control.
And you want to talk about a tell
Listen to this lady.
What's your biggest concern right now about the rapid development of AI?
My biggest concern is what I'm hearing from inside the companies, and in particular, just this past...
What was that about, lady? I'll give her one, but not what comes.
Just this past week, we saw 1,300 employees of top AI companies saying that they don't think they have a break pedal,
and they hope that outsiders, the government, civil society, the public, can help them build a brake pedal so they can go slower if they need to.
They don't really understand the technology that they're building.
And as we saw with these recent incidents, they have trouble controlling it.
And so I think that's reason for concern.
And we've seen some of this from the top AI leaders as well, but it's kind of a remarkable development here.
You've got these leaders saying, hey, stop us from doing what we're doing every single day because we can't stop ourselves.
Like neither of these people know what they're talking about, which is great.
Here's more.
How about this legislation being pushed by a bipartisan dealer in Congress right now calling for a kill switch on AI?
Do you see it get any progress?
Would it make any difference?
Yeah, this is a bill.
I think it's going to be tough to get anything through this Congress.
This is Representative Blue and Moran, so bipartisan bill, as you say.
To me, one interesting thing about this bill is that it calls for AI companies to be able to have a kill
for their models.
And some people in it is whenever she sells kill switch.
You can't say,
well,
it went from guard rails to kill switch,
guard rails to kill switch.
I gotta hear that yet.
Through this Congress.
This is representatives Lou and Moran.
Maybe I'm giving her too much here.
Maybe she just is like so nervous to be talking to Stephanopoulos.
She sounds like she's wound tighter than a golf ball.
I mean, really.
Partisan bill, as you say.
To me, one interesting.
thing about this bill is that it calls for AI companies to be able to have a kill switch for their
models. And some people in industry, when you tell them this, they say, that's ridiculous.
Of course we can turn the models off at any time, no problem. Other people say in industry,
this is a ridiculous bill. There's no way we can do this. These are distributed systems.
They're out in multiple data centers all at once. Trying to implement this would kill us.
And so I think trying to figure out, it seems pretty reasonable to want to be able to shut down an AI
system if it's doing things we don't want to. Can we already do that?
if not, how do we get there?
This is so infantile.
I actually had a version of an out-of-control agent the other day.
No.
Your own agent.
Yes, in JCD's memory, I will tell the story.
So I have four agents running.
And what they're doing most of the time is gathering stories,
finding different things for the show,
and presenting me with office.
and then I've actually trained it pretty well to make clips.
So, you know, it can find an arc.
It selects it.
It cuts it.
It does all of that stuff.
I've had that running for months.
I never told John that I was doing it to that extent because I knew that if there was a bad
clip, he would immediately go, oh, that's your, that's your robot.
It's no good.
You should be doing the work yourself.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
It's your AI.
Yeah.
It's their AI is no good.
They would have a conversation.
afterward like yeah yeah anyway so i never told them that um so i've been working you know
i have a company called godcaster with two partners and we're we're doing streaming music radio
stations for churches turn them into local radio stations all christian contemporary music
and uh and so i'm i kind of vibe coded that whole thing and uh dave and paul they
run the player side,
web players and the app.
And that has a very important role
in how this works and how you syndicate it
to different churches. So it's basically
you guys remember the old satellite
stations where you
get this main feed off the satellite
and then they'd hit a tone
and then that would fire the cart machine
on your end and it would insert the local
station ID or a commercial.
The good old days.
I mean, that's how it used to work.
And sometimes you can even
even hear, you could even hear that tone on the air. So it's a version of that. So I have one agent,
which is building, building that. And then another agent, I said, watch what this agent is doing
because I think it may be screwing some stuff up. So this is kind of my main mission control agent
that does a lot of different stuff, but it kind of looks and make sure the other agents aren't
doing stuff that's too weird. And I'd given it permission.
to talk directly to that other agent.
This was my mistake.
And so, and so, they're alive.
I'm telling you.
So now they can talk back and forth.
And I'm watching this, this window of the agent building this radio station stuff.
If something is going wrong, it's, you know, it has something to do with, with CORS,
which is cross origin reference something, you know, it's web stuff.
I don't, I don't really know.
I'm just a vibe coder.
But I've heard of it.
I kind of understand what the problem is.
And then all of a sudden I see like as if I'm answering this agent, I see like answers.
Yeah, go ahead and run that.
And then all of a sudden it's like, hmm, I don't know.
I'll email Dave and ask him about it.
And literally this other bot, which had a permission to like I have a fast mail account,
which is not my main account, just to be able to, you know, using the MCP.
server. It sent an email to Dave with a query about the end and I'm like and so and I say to
Dave, Dave, did you get an email and says, you know, I thought you were hacked because it ended with
thanks M dash Adam. I'm like Adam's hacked. He was I don't I never sign my emails like that.
And now so kill switch. Yeah. It's called control C. Yeah. It was that easy.
Adam hacked himself. So yes. Yes.
Yes, these things can do weird stuff and start, you know, if you give them permissions.
But what are we worried about? Control C.
Yeah.
But it's more fun.
It's like Skynet is sentient, you know.
People love.
And this is really the problem.
You know, you look at all how spun up people are.
You look at all of these different factors.
We have AI.
Everyone who's graduating college has been told, you're screwed.
You'll never get a job.
AI is going to do everything.
they're getting through college using their AI chatbot.
So, you know, they probably have some reason to believe that that may be true.
I certainly don't think it is.
So they're against it.
Then you get the flock cameras, though the whole world is spying on us.
Then you get idiots like Larry Ellison literally saying,
well, everyone will be on their best behavior because cameras will be everywhere.
And it goes into the AI and the AI will alert the right people.
And you're all going to be, you know, so it's total sky.
type stuff, it gets down to the level where people are, think that every data center that is being
built is going to house all of our information. That's where the government is going to store everything.
And we're going to be living in a prison. I'm like, no, these things will be pickleball courts in
a while. Don't worry about it. It's all going to, it's all going to evaporate eventually.
It always moves into the small business or the home.
It moves back from whatever they're trying to sell you as a monthly thing.
I mean, I'm running $70 billion.
I think I even ran $120 billion model locally.
If you have the RAM, you can pretty much do anything.
What do you use it for, Darren?
For your art?
Is that what you do your art with?
I have messed around with the text to speech.
I've messed around with all, you know,
The only thing that the Mac hardware doesn't do well is video or photos.
That's left to the invidious stuff.
But anything else as far as just using it as a chatbot,
I know the great void zero is using Hermes agent on a few things now.
And he's, oh, you got to try this because you could just talk to it through telegram.
And I'm like, is that good?
No, I'm doing that too.
It's wild.
But of course, and this is where it's like, well, how did the whole thing get shut down?
You're like, well, my agent did it because.
Yeah.
You know, it's like early days of the web.
We're all doing HTML.
We're doing blink tags.
You know, there will be, but ultimately,
what happened with the web will be the same here,
although this is more accelerated.
You know, when I had Think New Ideas,
we took it public,
at first I had on-ramp when I left MTV,
was, you know, three chickens and half a donkey were running it.
And then we got Reebok,
Anizer Bush as a client.
And that was a big client.
And then I got some smart people in and we rolled out.
We bought 15 other companies.
We rolled it up and took it public in 96 called Think New Ideas.
By the way, I didn't get rich like Mark Cuban.
I was a little too early and we were actually profitable.
Big mistakes right there, big mistakes.
Oh, you didn't buy Broadcast.com.
Broadcast.com.
But we were charging Anheuser-Busch 50 grand a month to, you know,
to build and maintain, it was maintenance.
We maintained their website.
Nice.
You know, and they had work orders and the whole process.
And then we got Planet Reebok and, you know, Chrysler.
And so it was, it was really big.
But we were charging people 50 grand a month for which now, well, in the, eventually we got,
what was that Microsoft bought it?
What was that software that you could build a website with?
Was it front page?
Was it front page?
I think it was front page.
Front page.
And, you know, now you just tell your robot, build me a page.
Right.
You know, build you a page.
Start a server.
So the same thing is going to happen with AI.
You know, yeah, just load it on your Mac.
The Apple is actually pretty well positioned for that with their, their architecture.
Yeah.
For anything outside of the data center, they are the ones you would go to.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So it'll go that way, but, yeah, everyone gets all spun up.
Well, yeah, because where's all the data going to go?
And who's going to control the data, which I still can't believe so many people.
But people are worried about the government.
It's Facebook, Google, these are the people you've been giving your stuff to.
Right, they want to sell your ads.
They want to, you know, everything is now, oh, we can hide this, this, this.
It's like, with the fingerprinting technologies, they have,
You add that to the ring doorbells and the flock cameras and everything else.
They know exactly.
These are all commercial companies.
Yeah.
Take it off.
Rip it up.
Larry, tell me.
Larry, you come across to me as a guy who doesn't rely much on technology.
Maybe I'd be wrong.
I've never met you.
I don't know.
I try to keep it, I won't say minimal, but I don't immerse myself.
You know, because I always, when I find myself sitting in front of the laptop for too long,
I hear you say, go outside, take your shoes off, walk in the grass.
You hear me saying that?
I hear you saying that.
You'll hear I do.
And so, because to me, it's trying to keep pace with it is almost impossible, really.
You know, but the AI thing, I mean, I got to say, as far as you mentioned it being maybe the corruption of higher education.
I'll tell you a quick story.
My daughter told me a while back.
She was sitting in the cafeteria at her.
She's a sophomore in college.
And some guy was obloviating about how difficult attaining his degree in architecture was until AI.
Right, right.
And I'm thinking, I don't think I want to drive over any bridges that this guy is going to be designing.
I'm living in his buildings.
Yeah, and according to her, I mean, and my other daughter teaches.
at a university in Mississippi,
and she's just besieged by AI crap,
and she can spot it in a sentence.
Oh, man.
I can spot it.
I spot it too all the time.
Yeah, so obvious.
So in that context, it's a little bit chilling, you know, so.
Well, there was just a,
there was just a professor that used,
this reminded me of the early days of the web,
white space with white text to add something like,
and put Madagascar into this.
Yeah, I saw that.
And only one student was smart enough to then think about it and go,
oh, well, I was reading it in dark mode.
So I just thought it was a weird thing you added in.
She was the only one that didn't fail because she was smart enough to cover her own ass afterwards
and come up with plausible deniability where all the other 31 kids were too dumb to do that
because they can't think because AI thinks for them.
Yeah, well, this is our media.
our news media, here's ABC about, here's their take on how AI is going to kill us all.
What if I told you that a store like Staples, for example, charge more online based on your IP address?
A gambling?
Senate Judiciary Subcommittee in DC taking on AI, specifically the use of AI and something called surveillance pricing.
One person is paying a different price from another for the very same thing.
It's become a trending topic on social media, with people finding out placing online orders for the exact same items can give two different people two different prices.
Experts, though, say the concept is not new.
Places like movie theaters, for instance, charge different people different prices.
There's different prices for adults, children.
That type of surveillance pricing is one we've come to accept, probably because it's plainly posted.
The new type of surveillance pricing happens behind the scenes with artificial.
intelligence playing a role that retailer may have access to that person's individual data maybe their
past shopping trends other data about them that may indicate a difference in ability to pay
uh-huh a difference in ability to pay right oh mom dummy it'll be great his little grocery store
yeah and that's a i run on that when it's oh a child or an adult that's not surveillance pricing sorry
No.
And when they're talking about a store in a neighborhood that maybe gets, you know,
looted twice a week, I understand why they may be a little more.
I think you and JCD covered this maybe a year or two ago, that this is going to happen.
All these stores where you see the electronic tags as you're walking down the aisle.
Yeah, they'll change.
Right.
Your cell phone with you, or it's just going to be able to get your facial recognition as you walk into the store.
But it's going to follow you around.
and as I walk down the aisle, I'm going to get one price,
you're going to get another one because, well, you know, they can.
Maybe.
You know, the backlash will come.
The white hats will do stuff.
Somebody's got to come up with a jamming device.
You can just pin to your lapel for the facial recognition.
Somebody's got to be doing that, don't they?
Yeah, you just have to do like Danney's thing.
Just have the thing coming from your cell phone that says,
I'm a poor podcaster, so you get to pay the lowest price as possible.
Oh, this guy's a podcaster.
Just put the stick a third eye in the middle of your forehead.
We've already confirmed this works for facial recognition and leave your phone at home.
That's it.
Don't take anything.
Good advice.
What else you guys got going on?
I got one here from talk about the rise of the left.
Everybody hit to this Francesca Hong out there in Wisconsin.
I don't know about her.
No.
Oh, yeah. She's running for governor.
And she has quite a background of complete nervous breakdown, overdosing on SSRIs.
Right.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Yeah. And you can hear, it's this, somebody's interviewing her in the street, and it's quite interesting.
It's just a funny take, which what she says is quite laughable.
Did your opinion change then on defunding the police?
But I think that people can evolve, that I am going to be a sensible and practical.
government and governor that is going to make sure that public safety is a priority and actually
get serious safety. I think that what, you know, my values are are where some of my beliefs are as
well. But where my values are is in, you know, making sure that public safety is for everyone,
that everyone has access to it. And I think that, you know, what, what I believed in the past,
like that can evolve. But I still know that I can't,
I cannot defund police as governor.
And what I want to do is making sure that we're fully funding and investing in the community programs that we know actually work.
That data shows builds community safety.
And again, the belief that I have, the values that I hold is that everyone has a right to feel safe and be safe.
Now, she sounds like an AI.
Doesn't she? But she's not. She's real.
Notice what she's everyone has a right to feel safe.
I don't know how you calibrate that, but, you know, there must be a way.
So here continue, and it gets even better, the way she dodges the question about defunding the police and actually flips it.
Have a listen.
I just want to just to sort of put a fine point on it.
You said your views can evolve.
Have your views actually evolved on defunding the police?
We had a police shooting in my hometown of Madison, Wisconsin.
Stop.
So stop.
This isn't a citizen shooting.
This is a policeman shooting of citizens.
She flips the whole script.
Dana, how about that?
Yeah, the problem is too many police officers are getting shot, so we should defund them.
Is that the take on that?
Wisconsin is actually the third one to happen on Willie Street, which is in my district.
And it's difficult for me to think about what I would say to a mother who has lost their children to police violence.
but I know that we can change these systems that must be changed.
There are folks who work in prisons.
They have some of the highest suicide rates for any employment that we need to make sure that every incarcerated person can live a life of dignity that 99% of incarcerated folks in our state will be going into community.
And we have to lower those recidivism rates.
Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I got to ask the book of knowledge about.
this. Is this prison workers, is that what's what she said is prison workers have the highest
suicide rate? No, no, the incarcerated people, the prisoners have the highest suicide rate,
she said. Book of Knowledge. Is it true that prisoners have the highest suicide rate amongst all
citizens? Come on, Book of Knowledge. I haven't fired this puppy up in weeks.
All right, here we go. All right. According to the Book of Knowledge, suicide
rates among prisoners are dramatically elevated.
In high-income countries, male prisoners take their own lives at calm in three to eight times.
The rate of the general population, while female prisoners suffer at deaths more than ten times,
the rate, in America specifically, jails are the most dire.
The suicide rate there is nearly way three times higher than in prisons or the general public,
making it the leading cause of death behind bars.
Thus, it has been written.
So being in prison sucks.
Is that the end?
It's not great for sure.
I mean, okay.
It's an incorrect.
Stay incorrect on that.
All right, we'll continue with this woman.
I'd a quick one of her two with Caitlin Collins.
And this was great because she wasn't finished yet, I think.
She's not going to say.
To invest in mental health resources.
in tackling the opioid in opioid epidemic.
And I think that when we have a governor that believes in those things,
we can achieve public safety.
Okay.
I didn't hear a yes or a no there.
We can believe in public say, we can get it.
I thought trans kids were, you know, they were the ones killing themselves.
The Book of Knowledge Guy didn't say it was the highest suicide.
No, he didn't.
No, he did.
It was kind of a hazy answer he gave.
Don't call him Book of Knowledge Guy.
He gets offended.
I'm sorry.
What is it?
Book of knowledge.
Just the book of knowledge.
Darren, I have to give you the book of knowledge.
I got to give you the keys to the book of knowledge.
You need that.
You desperately need it.
It's an important part of the show, man.
People like, hey, man, can I get access to that?
You can sell it.
There's another exit strategy.
The book of valid subscription, only 99, 99 a month.
Sadly, the only person with the right exit strategy was John C.
DeVorek.
What a way to go.
Yep, the show is the same day.
And I'm telling you that message that you had gotten from the very complimentary lady in Colorado talking about the cat's cradle.
I looked that up and I was like, that's freaking weird, man.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I don't have that near me.
What was it again?
It was a celestial thing that only happened with these four planets like every 10,000 years.
Right.
And it represents like a.
new thing incoming
and old thing outgoing and the fact
that it happened on the day
where you both had a
grandchild born and JCD
pass away was like the
coincidences is
was a little hard to ignore
I don't like I said I don't believe that second
half of show stuff most of the time but
that was a little
crazy
when it's something that like happens once every
10,000 years
well there's only one great
show once every 10,000 years.
That's true.
I kind of like doing
the show with you guys.
It kind of like takes
two to replace JCD.
That's not bad. That's true.
Larry can be that grumpy and I've got
more of the tech so it all kind of
there we go, grumpy in tech.
There's the names.
Yeah.
But this is Caitlin Collins
with that same. And I
really hoping this woman does not become governor.
of Wisconsin, except for the fact that it would definitely be good for the show.
You know, you've talked about your past positions that he keeps highlighting and, you know,
obviously likely would continue to do so before November should you win. One thing that they brought
up as well was a post from you in 2021, where you said Americans should cancel Thanksgiving,
should have done this in 1621. The post has been deleted. Republicans have been highlighting it.
do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled?
I'm a chef and one of the first meals that I made.
Can you believe that? I'm a chef. That's the first words out of her mouth.
After, do we, should we get rid of Thanksgiving?
Well, I'm a chef.
I'm a chef, yes.
That was for the community when I was 16 was a Thanksgiving meal.
I always think my hospitality background and owning a restaurant first up in
years that bringing folks around the table to share conversation and build community is always
a good thing. But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our
communities. And so, have you ever heard that before? Incredibly painful. I mean, you know what the
pain would be? It's having to sit next to her, any meal. That would be painful. I mean, I understand
why people get, you know, melancholy around a lot of holidays or, you know, people, you know,
people's birthdays and all that, but it's like Thanksgiving, no, I don't really feel much
negativity around it. I think there, I wanted to make sure that people understood that there
are multiple views, but views can evolve. And the position that I'm running for right now,
and I think my background as a chef will actually help me become a better governor that's
able to bring more people. Right. All right. Yes, chef. Yes, chef. We're going to bring everybody together
and get rid of Thanksgiving, though.
So that's...
Definitely.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Why not, right?
Hey, I want to...
Do you mind if I do the donations here for a second?
Because there's not a lot,
and that is obviously disappointing,
but I understand people...
You know, the one thing that really stuck out...
I have thousands of emails.
Then I'm trying to think,
I don't know if I can even reply to everything.
everybody I'd like to.
Just thousands of lovely
notes. I got one
death threat, which is pretty interesting.
Whoa. Like a, yeah, like a
real one. Like you traitor, I'm
coming to kill you. And
you're a dead man. I'm like, okay,
I live in Texas. So, yeah.
You have a few guns in the house.
That's never, I've never gotten a death threat.
I don't think ever in my life.
There's the first time. But a lot
of people, and I, and then we saw it in the
donations of the two memorial shows we
people say, man, I feel so horrible because I never donated.
I never don't.
That was a laugh, tells you hear that?
I never, I never donated.
And now I'm donating, but I feel horrible about it.
And is this not what John and I always talked about?
It's like, do you want to support something because things go away?
And in this case, it's not that we didn't, you know, the show didn't change because you didn't donate.
But don't feel, you don't, I mean, come.
on. Yeah. Doesn't that tell you something? Like you've got to support. I mean, I have a little
system calendar reminder, the beginning of each month that says, here's the open source stuff you're
using, like FFM pay. Remember to donate to them. And I do. You know, 50 bucks. Like,
okay, here you go, because I use you a lot and I love all the volunteers who are working on the
FFM peg to make it great. And they're under incredible strain now.
because, you know, all these AI systems are filing bug reports everywhere.
But, you know, but you got to do it.
And, and you know what it is?
You give something, you give something away.
It comes back tenfold.
I can tell you that's really true.
Yeah, use it as positive reinforcement.
You still have time for the things you like to support them.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's not all that different from neglecting to vote.
Exactly.
It's two sides of the same coin, brother.
vote and support no agenda.
It's the exact same thing.
Hey, we want to kick it off with our first executive producer.
And I will read this because I love that the North Idaho Sanity Brigade from Post Falls, Idaho,
came in with $58.88.
That's a JCD donation I ever saw one.
And starts off with, in the morning, Laren and Derry.
Yeah.
We've had multiple different combinations.
and usually they were just what the JCD said at some point.
I love it. I love it. I love it.
A few Benjamins in a row of eights in honor of John C. DeVore Act crowdfunded with love by the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
We say, Benjamin's advisedly, as it is a Ben Franklin quote that encapsulates it all.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Amen.
Thanks to you both for keeping no agenda on the air while the Curry's and Divorries.
borax navigate these couple of weeks and beyond.
It will be exciting to stay on this ride as we round the bend of whatever's coming next.
In the meantime, we've been plugging away with our hyperlocal version of No Agenda for the state of Idaho,
the No ID podcast, which I've heard. It's quite good.
If you live in Idaho or Eastern Washington and you're curious what this format sounds like
when it's tailored for a specific region, check us out at no ID show.com.
Cheers and Godspeed, Gitmo Nation.
Sir Scott the Jew and the North.
Idaho Sanity Brigade.
I'll do all of these because it's very short list.
Zadok Brown, Parts Unknown, $210.60.
We thank you.
And of course, there she is, the Rock.
And she is from Castle Rock, Colorado.
Linda Lippatkin, or as Larry would say,
Linda Lopitkin.
Have you ever listened to the show, Larry, ever?
I can't believe I did that.
There were some people asking you that.
Especially like these guys have never listened to the show.
Never listened to the show.
Never once.
You'll never live it.
You're never going to live it down, bro.
But I'll tell you what I did.
I bought a much bigger monitor so I can see better.
Oh, that helps, yes.
Because the spreadsheet, you've noticed what John was always complaining about.
The spreadsheet blows out.
Yes.
I know.
And if I can just let you know, I did vibe code already a Apple app that I drag the spreadsheet in
and it just spits it out in plain text.
Mm-hmm.
That's the way to do it.
man Larry what you seem like a you seem like a not a Mac guy are you like Commodore 64 guy or
I would be if I knew how to work that I I have always been I've never you know what my
first computer was a Mac and and then you know I thought gee this isn't that great and I just
didn't and I forget what the hell the second one was I haven't a bunch of them since then
And now I have a little of a Lenovo.
That's so, you know, I'm not a Mac guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, the think pad.
Lenovo Think Pad?
Yeah.
Yeah, those are good.
I got one of those.
Except I run Omarchi on it like a real man.
Well, so I'll have to.
Linda Lopatkin comes in with $200 and she wants jobs,
karma, and says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results,
go to Imagemakers Inc.com.
Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of
leadership results and impact. I may
need your services soon, Linda.
Remember, that's Image Makers, Inc.
with a K, work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs
and Writer of Winning Resumets.
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs,
and Jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
And that is our
Executive and Associate Executive Producers.
You will be credited, of course, and these credits
are actual Hollywood credits. Larry
knows all about it. You've got some Hollywood credits,
don't you, Larry? I do. I do.
I created and
co-produced a
primetime series for CBS.
What? What was that?
Can you tell us?
Sure. It was a reality show.
It was called Wickedly Perfect.
The original title was
Finding Martha.
And it kind of popped.
I was actually on my way
the next day to make a pitch somewhere.
And my wife and I were watching
television, and Martha Stewart had just
been jailed.
Oh, I remember that, sure.
Yeah. And so she said, man, that'd make a hell of a show.
And I said, you know, you're right.
And so I spent all night writing the pitch and the show Bible and everything.
And the next day, boom, it was bought.
Wow.
Was you pretty excited.
Were you a showrunner?
I was not the showrunner.
No, no, not the showrunner.
So you got a created by credit.
Created by credit and some nice checks that didn't bounce.
And the funny part was, what they did was, though, they kind of, I wanted it to be really crazy
with like some ghetto fabulous chick like Missy Elliott or whatever at the helm.
And remember, CBS is about C&D counties, you know.
Yeah.
And so they sort of watered it down a lot.
And then they changed the title because apparently Les Moonvis says, yeah, I like this.
I like this.
I like this.
Finding Martha good.
And then the lawyers got in the room and said, wait a minute.
No, no, no, we can't do that.
We can't do that.
We might not want to do this.
And so it became wickedly perfect.
But it was fun, fun ride.
Yeah.
So executive and associate,
executive producer and associate executive producer credits for these three people.
I know we can do better than that, please.
And I want people to know that Larry and Darren are getting paid for what they're doing.
So they participate in the value for value.
We never just ask them to do it for free.
They didn't ask for anything.
I said, no, that's not how it's going to work.
So you are supporting their work while they are here as well.
for as long as they're here.
And you never know how long they'll be here.
I'm kind of feeling comfortable with you, boys,
to be honest about it.
Brandon Walters, St. Cloud, Florida, 100.
Thank you, Jason Shepard in Trinidad,
Colorado, 80 and 76 cents.
And there he is, Sir Kevin McLaughlin,
Archduke of Luna, lover of America,
and boobs from Concord, North Carolina, 808.
It is the boob. Put it on your calculator.
And he says, God bless America.
And boobs, Laus Deo.
Brandon Locklear,
Sorry?
That is one long streak he's got going.
Congratulations.
He may not even be alive.
It just may be automatic forever for the rest of our lives.
We love you for it, Art Stuke.
Brandon Locklear, Sugar Hill, Georgia, 77, and 70 cents.
Thank you.
We recognize the number.
David Cox, Austin, Texas, 6325.
James Fredericks comes in with double nickels on the dime.
That's $55.10.
And he says, I'm very impressed by Larry and Derry.
Thanks.
Wow.
You guys have already got stuff going here, man.
Larry and Derry, Larry, Lernerner, and Derry.
I mean, come on.
This is good.
Josiah Thomas, Ankeny, Iowa, 51, and here are the 50s.
Foster Birch, been around for a long time from New York, New York.
Thank you.
Sir Alex Savala, Kyle Texas.
We thank you, Sir Alex.
Check out the Nickyue Dad podcast.
Stefan Truccles in Seussed in Deutschland.
Not Amused.
Paisley Refisher.
in Great Britain
and $50 and says
from not amused in the UK long-time listener
haven't donated in over a decade
shame on you
please dedoosh
You've been deduished
And he says
The show goes on
Keep up the great work gentlemen
You guys are doing great work
Stephen Ray Spokane Washington 50
Edward Mazzaric in Memphis Tennessee
And Gretcha Angel
Imonrovia
California, $50, and it wraps up all of our donations.
And we appreciate all that you have done for the show.
Thank you very much.
Well, this will be short as well.
Sir Recalcant Crazy Steve II, wishes Sir Richemeyer,
a happy birthday celebrating on the 8th.
And Sir Recalcerant Crazy Steve the 2nd wishes his daughter,
Nicole, a happy birthday.
she'll be celebrating on August 9th,
and we say happy birthday to everybody here
from the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
By the way, noagendadendidonations.com.
Can't say it enough.
No agenda donations.com.
Now, are you guys ready?
Do we have any meetup reports?
I didn't get any.
Do you get any, Darren?
No, I did not.
Okay.
Well, we'll do this.
No agenda.
Yeah.
Yeah, no agenda.
This is a list.
So I'm going to go through this list
because everybody decided to do a meetup
in honor of JCD this weekend.
Actually, we have the regularly Northern Wake,
totally regularly scheduled August meetup at 6 o'clock today
at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Tomorrow on the seventh, raise a pint for JCD, 8 o'clock.
That'll be in London, and you need to contact robotic exile for details.
But please do that.
We've got a lot of people in London.
Saturday, here we go.
In honor of the great JCD, noon, Fool and Flagen,
in Hamilton, Ontario.
JCD Memorial Mid-South,
noon at High Cotton Brewing in Memphis, Tennessee.
In memory of JCD, 1230 at Delaware Park Casino,
third-floor Rooney's in Wilmington.
That sounds like fun.
Copper Country Lunch to Celebrate JCD, 2 o'clock.
Copper Range Depot Family Restaurant, Houghton, Michigan.
We drink and we know absent friends,
2 o'clock, 3 BR distillery in Keyport, New Jersey.
Local 512 Buzzkill Memorial
That of course is Baron Scott of the No Agenda Armory
At Dock's backyard in Sunset Valley, Austin, Texas,
Wish I Could Go.
I believe my Peridontas will be there.
Maverick, also known as Mitch, he's going to show up.
In memory of JCD, 2 o'clock in Kalapuya,
Calapuya Brewing in Albany, Oregon.
That's a great name.
Not a great band name.
Treasure Idaho, JCD Memorial, 3 o'clock at the Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho.
Local 76 Salutes, JCD, 3 o'clock Philadelphia Brewing Company in Philly.
Sonoma Wino Country, 10.0, 333 Pacific Mountain Mikes in Santa Rosa.
ITM, South Florida, 333.
This is the Andrew Horowitz meetup, and I'll be sending in a video for everybody.
It'll be at the Beach House Los Olas and Fort Lauderdale.
Go give Andrew a hug.
Good luck and Godspeed, JCD.
4 o'clock at Sound to Summit Brewing in Snohomish, Washington.
Farewell to John, 5.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.
Remembering JCD, 6 o'clock at Blair's All Sports Bar and Grill in Springfield, Missouri.
Celebration of JCD's life, 6 o'clock on the half-shell oyster bar in Prairieville, Louisiana.
Siams Siree, in honor of JCD, 6th.
30, that is going to be in, is that, it's O'Shea's Irish pub, Sukhumvit, Sukumvit?
Is that, where is that? Is that India?
Maybe it's Indochine time, it says. That is a word I have not seen.
Look up Sukumvit. Look up Sukumvit for me, will you?
That's Sir Richard of the Carthus.
But I have no idea where that is.
O'Shea's Irish pub, that's kind of cool.
That's in Bangalore, wow.
That's the best part.
JCD Celebration of Live 630,
and that is at Gage Road, Fremantle Brewery in Perth and Fremantle, Western Australia.
Bangkok, Thailand.
It is Thailand?
Okay.
Oh, the lady boy celebrating JCD.
Love it.
August 9th, ITM, Virginia,
and thank you for your courage, JCD-130 at Gloucester Brewing in Gloucester, Virginia.
W.W.J.D.D.
What would John C. DeVorec.
5 o'clock on Sunday at Fox and the Hound and Langley Township, British Columbia,
Candinavia, ITM, JCD, rest in power, 6 o'clock at grape and hop in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia,
so two going on this weekend there, and also on Sunday, the Amsterdam JCD memory,
630 at bar restaurant Lely in Amsterdam.
Still to come in the month of August.
This is a crazy list.
The 14th, Queens, New York and Wauitosah, Wisconsin, Tbilisi, Georgia, that is in the country, the South Caucus region.
August 15th, Riverside, California, Oakland, California, Yukon, Oklahoma, the 16th, Dubuque, Iowa, Norwood, Massachusetts, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, Vancouver, Vancouver, Pennsylvania, Vancouver,
Chattanooga, Tennessee, the 23rd, Indianapolis, Indiana, Benton, Arkansas on the 23rd, the 29th, Rhode Island, and also on the 29th, Zurich, Switzerland.
Many, many, many more can be, oh, I have the 30th, there's still, wait, there's more.
Chester Springs, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, that's on the 30th, is out of sequence.
Rhode Island on the 29th, Chester Springs, Nebraska, on the 30th, and then we're into September, October, November, it just keeps on going.
No agenda meetups, I hope will never stop.
I think that they're a great legacy of the show.
You can still bring heads on sticks.
But we expect meetup reports,
and this should be just a whole bunch of them.
Send them to me,
Adamatcurry.com,
and just record it on your phone.
I'll edit them all.
Don't worry about it.
If you can edit it, that's even better.
Try and do your best, actually, with pre-editing.
It really does help now that I think about it.
Don't you have an AI for that yet?
Come on.
I probably could set that up now that I think about it.
And we'll see if I can get all of those done by Sunday, otherwise Thursday.
And just thank you all for organizing this.
You know, the Dvorak family and I and Horace, we all talked about, you know,
there's a memorial for him in Oakland.
By the way, I'll tell you one thing.
There's something John used to do whenever he went into a hotel lobby or a bar anywhere.
And if there was a piano player, he would always ask the piano player to play stairway to heaven.
So there's going to be a piano player playing stairway to heaven, which is kind of the sick humor of the Dvorak.
You got to love them for that.
Where was I?
Anyway, whatever I was saying.
Oh, yeah, that we were talking about a, we wanted to have like a community meet up.
And, you know, like, this is so complicated, you know.
We couldn't even ever get a big meetup together.
You know, we talked about the sphere in Vegas and all kinds of venues where people could get too easily.
This is the way I expected Noagena Nation to go.
Do it locally.
Do it with your people.
And don't let it be the last time.
This should be just the beginning, just the first of many more Noagena Meetups.
Go to Knowagena Meetups.com.
You can find the entire list.
Thank you, Sir Daniel, for all the work that you have done.
And if you can't find one near you, it's easier.
Start one yourself.
Noagendameteups.com.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be.
Triggered all hell's the lame.
You want to be used the same.
Like a party.
Can I drop off here because I got a guy coming here to pick up my dog at 3.30 exactly.
And I got to make sure that my, you know, I've got to kiss my dog.
because I love my dog.
Sounds good.
And I'll talk to you guys Sunday.
Thank you.
Thank you, Adam.
No, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Treat these guys with respect.
They're awesome.
Love you mean it.
No homo.
Exactly.
Howdy.
That's the way to leave a show right there.
That's perfect.
You don't top that.
And, yeah, all those meetups,
I can't wait to hear those meetup reports.
It should be entertaining the JCD stories.
We want to hear them.
but yeah, just do a little editing.
It's nice.
I took my portable Zoom recorder out to our meetup,
and it makes it a lot easier.
But if it's on a phone, you can still make it sound pretty.
Those zooms are great.
I got one of those.
It's a nice unit.
And I do have, we have to start getting you to bring some ISOs as well for the end of show.
But I do have a couple that were sent in here, including this one,
because in honor, JCD loved the,
text to speech
Trump and Obama
So they are shrinking the
Amygdala
Donate
Kind of
Kind of a long
Pause in there
It was okay Trump though
It was a good
Very good Trump I thought
And this one from the
AI menu bot
Sorry did I make a mistake
Try saying add or remove
Which
I mean that's that's the world
That you now are going to be living in
Anytime you want to try to go in order a, you know, a frosty or something, that's what you're going to get.
They sound much less synthetic than she did, I got to say.
There's some that are getting better, some that are getting worse.
But I think for today's show, I want to honor the late great JCD and try this one.
Oh, you cheap bastard.
I mean, I think that.
That's good.
I think that pretty much.
Donate, donate.
I think it was my buddy No Beret, who is always trolling along when we were doing Planet Rage.
Like, you got to complain about the donations.
Otherwise, you're not doing JCD, right?
So maybe.
Maybe he's got a little bit of a point there.
I'm not going to say that he is wrong.
And, oh, what we didn't do earlier either was the troll count.
So right now, 733.
with the peak of 850, and yeah, they ran.
They're not happy unless they hear the drops.
That's for darn sure.
Did you have anything else that you wanted to cover on today's show?
I think that kicks it in the head, Darren.
Is that a good kick in the head, or is that a...
That is a recognition of a New York talk radio legend named Bob Grant.
He used to end every show like that.
That kicks it in the head for another day.
Well, that makes sense.
So that is going to do it for another edition of the Best Damn podcast in the Universe.
Coming up next on the Mighty No Agenda Stream, the MMO show.
Always wonder what that MMO stands for.
the millennial media offensive episode number 230.
We do have some end-of-show mixes coming up from, let's see.
Oh, the great Sir Chris Wilson.
And now if I don't say it's the great big Steve Stone,
he's not going to be happy.
So we got a couple of those, which is good.
We didn't have one last time,
and I had to play the Wind of Oax chair, Chintley Squeaks,
And, you know, there's only so much of that that people can handle.
So coming to you from just outside of Shirek, right here in FEMA region number five in the morning, everybody.
I am Darren O'Neill.
And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, I'm Larry Blydner.
We will be back here on Sunday.
Remember us at no agenda donations.com.
Until then, hooey-hooey.
Thank you for your courage.
Adios, mofos.
And such.
And, uh, donate.
What more do you need to know?
Do it.
You see that?
Yeah.
That shit.
And this?
Shainola.
Shit.
Shinola.
Son, you're going to be all righty, all right.
All right.
You can't even stop saying bullshit.
Bull crap.
That.
Blah.
You're doing good so far.
We used to laugh.
at that shit. Help, I've fallen
and I can't get up. Now it's like, shit
way too much. I'm sorry.
I cut it back. I can't help myself.
Shit.
Kids are crying.
Oh, it's horrible.
No, I'm going to say, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it.
I would say that I was going to say it and say it, but I'm not going to say it until I
have to say it.
That's bullshit.
It's unreal. You said bullshit again.
You know, that's a difference between you and me.
I ask you to stop saying shit.
Hey, no, I'm going to say it more.
It's like bullshit.
Hey, you're saying bullshit, man.
E's back.
That's the third time.
That's your third shit.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, pay attention now.
It's bullshit.
You have two bullshits left in your quota.
Shit.
I have reached my quota.
Bull crap.
I can't say any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI and robots.
And at times I sort of think, well, perhaps, you know, even if there was a stop button, you
probably shouldn't press it.
Imagine there's no Elon.
It's easy if you try.
X goes back to being Twitter.
No need for blue sky.
Imagine all the people cancelled from today.
Imagine there's no Tesla.
It isn't hard to do.
No self-driving cars catching on fire.
No self-immolating power walls too.
Imagine all day.
I'm a douchebag.
Yeah, someday you'll come and join me
And there's no SpaceX
No rockets in the sky
Winternet from Starlink
I'm a retail come and join me
More stupid and dumb
Is incredible
Abundance for all
Alpo
Dvorak.org
Slash na
Oh you cheap bastard
forward.
