No Agenda - 1893 - "En Banc"

Episode Date: August 9, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1893 - "En Banc" En Banc Executive Producers: RonV42 Scott Vance Lady Butters Associate Executive Producers: Manuka Gold Hazmatticus II Ara Derderian Eli The Coffee Guy Linda Lupatkin Doug Andrews Knights and Dames: Hazmatticus II > Sir Hazmatticus II, Knight and slave to the Lord Christ, and Keeper of Dogs. far right, white Christian nationalist. EOS Mixes: Gary in Gilroy CA Perth No Agenda Producers Maik Iampietro Sir Chris Wilson the Drunkard Minstrel CSB Art By: Francisco Scaramanga Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Last Modified 08/09/2026 17:25:46 by Freedom Controller  

We got to have common sense. Larry Blytner, Darren O'Neill. It's Sunday, August 9, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1893. This is no agenda. Yes, we're broadcasting live from just outside a shy rack right here in FEMA region number five. In the morning, everybody, I'm Darren O'Neill.

And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, this is Larry Blydner, keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth. It's Darren and Larry. In the morning. Was Billy Idol okay coming into that area? I mean, with all the commies. Billy was dynamite.

What a show. It was just electric. I'm still amped up from it. I'm pretty dangerous, so watch yourself, really. It was insane. It was Steve Stevens was on fire. 10,000 people screaming Billy. And you know what?

That dude will be 71 this November. and he moves like he's half that age and looks it. He took off his shirt and threw it into the crowd and he didn't look really bad. You know, like, wow. Yeah, I'm not trying that any time soon. It was absolutely spectacular. I'm hoping maybe when Adam joins us later, maybe he's got a Billy Idol story. You know, he knew all those rock stars and stuff.

We will be joined you by the podfather. Dude, I got it. Okay, I was going to wait, but you're going to ask me for a Billy Idol story. Gotcha. You did. You nailed it. Nailed it, Larry. Man, you know that Billy Idol dated downtown Julie Brown. Really?

Oh, yeah. And it was just creepy. Those two, they were so creepy together. How creepy? Can you give me it like a, for instance? Just like, you know, just tonguing each other in the hallways and get a room, man. It was nasty. she was kind of nasty I'm sure she's very nice now now that she's married to a big

Hollywood producer and it doesn't have to work in the morning to you boys how you doing in the morning there Adam doing good great I am yeah I apologize it don't sound like myself because this was a rare

occasion where we traveled and I didn't have to lug along the entire portable studio I'm like I'm not going to have time I'm just going to bring along my little pod mobile plug-in to nice. You sound great, really. Yeah, thanks.

Really? Okay. Yeah. It's funny how whenever you're setting something up, and I just have a little tripod for the microphone, I don't have my boom arm. It's always, you know, whenever you're looking for something to build the studio with in a hotel room, it's always the trash can. For some reason, the trash can is always the perfect,

the perfect device, you know, So I got it on top of the trash can, exactly the right height. So, yeah, I'm here in San Francisco, and we were here for John Memorial yesterday. But first of all, man, there were memorials all over the world. The meetups that were taking place. Horowitz did a big thing in Fort Lauderdale, and he was doing like John trivia, and he had prizes and all kinds of stuff. And we have, what do we have, Darren, like five or six meetup reports already?

Ten. Ten already? Wow. Which I know you guys will play later. I'm just, I'm literally so tired that I wish I could be here for the whole show. But this was, yesterday, it just all came out, you know. It was like just the weeks, but honestly months, because of, of John's earlier medical stuff

and, you know, just dragging the card along but, you know, with lots of help from everybody and just really not know. It was closure. It was big closure for me personally. But it was so I mean, maybe I should just do it

chronologically. We got in, we flew out Friday from Austin. So that by itself is just such a hassle, man. It's like an hour and 45 drive for us and then, you know, Southwest was delayed and just all so anyway we get in we get into the hotel and we come in we're in like 730 and Dana brunetti who doesn't know him Hollywood producer of the biggest movies in the

world and his beautiful wife Alex they said well we'll come to the hotel we'll grab some dinner so i mean we had great great dinner with with brunetti what he and his wife i never met him in person just a lovely lovely guy so no agenda so anti-holywood he is one of us man i'll tell you that he is one of us um and then the next day everybody was coming in we had uh sir mark and dame astrid flew in from tokyo which is just you know they are the archduke and archduchess of japan and the japan sea and all the disputed islands and i mean these these people they've been listening since episode one. Wow.

They've been with the show. And for people who don't know them, you should just look up Ditham, Klein Ditham architects in Tokyo. They have done some of the most amazing buildings. I think they've probably done like 25% of Tokyo's most beautiful buildings. Like the Emperor's Library, you know, they did the, I think they did the, the Fender guitar building. I think it's a fender guitar building. Yeah. Sony

building. They've just done such amazing projects and they're just lovely lovely people. He's British. She's Swiss but they've both been in Japan forever. Also flying in for this occasion was Voyage Zero, Mark coming in from the Netherlands. Wow.

He, I mean, just it was, I haven't seen him in 12 years last time since I saw him in person. Sir Patrick Cobel, of course. Sir Patrick Cobel is everywhere, every single place, anywhere that's something good, a meet up. Sir Patrick Cobald is always there. So we hung out with them for a little bit. Had a kind of a lunch. I really couldn't eat much. I knew I was going to be speaking. They had me on the lineup for this gig. and so we all went to the chapel in Oakland's beautiful just thing is like I don't know it must be 100 over 100 years old probably about 70 people there and as you know so

Mimi said a few words Eric the Schill became up with his with his wife Danelle from South Dakota the people know Eric the Schill he used to do the back office before Jay came in to do that. And he was master of ceremonies. Then Marty Higgins, who wrote many of the jokes for John and throughout the years. He's been friends with Meanie, I think, first for, I don't know, 40 years. He did the eulogy. It was kind of cool because he came to me later and he says, you know, I have something. And most of these people were as old as would. I mean, they're all like in their 70s and 80s. I'll just be honest about it.

And Marty's like, you know, do you remember when John was doing the Confucius stuff? I'm like, yeah, I remember that. Do you remember that, Darren or Larry, when John would open the show and he would do what Confucius says? Well, I've got to find that. He was doing this for maybe a month.

And they would be okay, you know. I think a Confucius says maybe is not the best thing for an opening. But anyway, so Marty comes up to me. He says, do you remember the Confucius says stuff? I say, yeah. He said, well, I wrote those. Uh-huh.

He said, you got to understand the backstory. John called me up one day and said, I got a great idea for a book. I got a great idea for a book. It's a comedy book. And it's just filled with Confucius says. And Marty says, but I guess you didn't like it or something. I never knew it was supposed to be a book. John just was throwing this stuff at me.

I'm like, okay, he gives me a list of, 250 Confucius says that he wrote for that book. And they are so, so, most of them, I can't even read on the air. Right. They are, I mean, when it starts with lesbian who curl hair, I mean, no, I'm just going to leave that one where it is. But, you know, so that. Did he do it with the Chinese accent? Just, just, John did it. John did, tried to do it with the Chinese accent. That may have been part of the

problem now that I think about it. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. And anyway, so Marty does the eulogy, funny. I mean, he's a, he used to be Marty in the morning, you know.

He did radio, morning radio back in the late 70s. So these are all just really interesting people. Then Brandon Jay's husband spoke and he just had a lovely bit about, you know, how he asked John if he could marry Jay twice. And if you

only imagine how hilarious that situation went both times. Then I did my piece. And then they had kind of an open mic, which was appropriate because there were comedians and there were just wild and wacky people there. So Void Zero, Void Zero was phenomenal. You know, the cis admin who's always quiet and doesn't say much and he just kind of sits there and makes everything run. Yeah, yeah. Man, Void Zero. We almost had to give him the hook. He wouldn't stop. He had written 10,000 words, but it was all so beautiful. It was, oh, but it was all so beautiful. And, you know, you could just tell how everyone had been affected by John. And then you got, like, the old PC MAG publishing days, which Mimi doesn't even know them. That predated her in

John's relationship. There were stories about how John had ghostwritten the first book by Adam Osborne. I mean, this is going back, right? Guys who were in the original, you know, deck days of computing. And everybody kind of had the same basic story about John where he'd call you up and go, hey, you know, that was how John called you on the phone. I never called me, but, you know, the one time he did, hey, Adora. And everybody had very similar stories. Some people were just like, wow.

these guys exist. You know, that they really, that they're from these old computer days and they had stories about just like, you know, devices and peripherals that you'd recognize and how John was, you know, just always all

on top of this. And a common theme, you know, people might often get the, and I've always known this, but it was said so perfectly about one of the speakers, that John, it always sound like he was just crapping on everything, you know, like the mouse and the, and the iPad,

and the Apple Watch and all this stuff. The point was made that John actually, because of how he wrote about these things, drove people to make better products. True. And I think that's true. That, you know, just the way he would just drive a wedge into anything that people were trying to make that was cool, including myself, by the way, when I would be so proud of the Howard Stern interview I did, and he said, it sucked, it sucked, you didn't mention the show, didn't mention the show enough. I don't think he even mentioned me, you know, just on it.

And it made me better. And that was a very, very clear message from everybody. There was a couple of older comedians. Even with the art stuff, I mean, DeVorek was great. If he liked my stuff, it wasn't anywhere near as fun. exactly and and and i i guess i knew that inherently but it's not until people started saying it that he was so you know john could have in a multi multi multi multi millionaire because he had inside dirt on all products he could have gone to work for any company told them how to do it but that

wasn't what he did he wrote about how these products sucked because he felt they could be better Now, he didn't necessarily always say it would be better if, but that was, that really was a big part of his role in the world. And I really came to appreciate that hearing that yesterday. Oh, yeah. Not like computers became a thing. Yeah. It was all in vain, obviously. You think about the world that he actually molded with his words at the back of those PC magazines and elsewhere.

Yeah. It is quite amazing. Yes. It all kind of came together for me when Sir Patrick Cobel and many of the No Agenda producers and artists were in on this and they helped crowd fund it and helped find the different knickknacks. I posted it on X. Sir Patrick Cobra made two shadow boxes. You know, shadow boxes. I guess typically like you get one if you served in the armed forces or you had a child who was killed somewhere in the armed forces.

is you get, you know, this beautiful wooden box with glass in front and has the flag and their medals and their picture, et cetera. And, you know, Patrick's an ex-Marine. And these things, you've got to zoom in on this picture. It had just all these different artifacts of John and of me and of no agenda, including an HO scale model of the Zephyr that had one of the, you know, a mouse in there. It had an MTV patch. It had a first, first-gen iPod, you know, back in the day when John was taking digital pictures and always saying your camera, your camera, your phone's camera sucks. Why do you use that? Of course, he was trying to make that better and it did get better over time. You know, a little handheld digital camera.

One of his Dvorak speaking typing tutor software packages. I mean, just it's such a lovely, I mean, I couldn't hold it together, man, when he gave that to me. It's like, and he even had it custom made for a suitcase because it had to fit in the suitcase for us to take it back. Wow. I mean, that just, I mean, no agenination, man, just, just so beautiful. Nothing like it in the world. Nothing. There really is nothing like it in the world.

Let me see if I got everybody in here. Well, so, what was I? There was something, another point I was going to. Oh, yes. The Victoria Rokane. I don't know if you know who she is. He's like the CBS, CBS LA entertainment reporter. And I actually had forgotten this, but the one time I went to John's house,

the one time I was invited and not allowed to go see the studio, was a Thanksgiving. And he'd invited Victoria as well. She's this really cute Asian L.A. reporter. And she's like an undercover Republican, Catholic, you know, of course, could never let on about. that doing her job, but John knew all about her. And she and several other people, I mean, would just stand up and say, you know, people don't understand how John helped me in my career.

He would give me, the same thing that he's doing to the PC industry. He would critique my work, tell me what to do, but it would also make connections. Like, I'll call this person now. They're waiting for you. He helps so many people further their careers that people don't even know about. So just, I mean, just unbelievable. beautiful to hear all of that. We had a slide show. You know, there's the little urn sitting there, which I always find creepy, you know. John's in there. There's no way he fits in there. His kids were there, of course. And then we all walked down the street to Kona, Barcona, which is like a tiki bar. The lovely folks from Violetta Pizza who have a place right across the street. They brought him pizza.

everybody was just hanging out and just having a very very very good time dame rita from sparks nevada showed up i mean it was mind-blowing um how much love there was for john and i think it was really good that we all just got to have some closure at this point um and you know at a certain point tina looks at me and she says am i going to have to carry you to the car i say yeah So we just had to go home and like, now I'm staying here today. There's a lot of paperwork I've got to help Mimi with because you can imagine not everything was all set up for this, for this moment in time. So we have some, you know, bank stuff to do. She can't act as bank accounts.

Nice. So I have to. No passwords. No, we got the passwords we got. because you know she had always said john well what if and john said nah you'll figure it out well here we are we're figuring it out we're figuring it i mean can you believe that yes yeah we're figuring it out so um it was just great and i'm so looking forward to hearing the media the meeter reports from everybody from around gitmo nation and without exception everybody says hey i really

like this combo of Darren and larry and adam coming in um so there's some something going on here. Like Sir Patrick Cobel had a, I thought, an interesting idea that, you know, if people, we have so many boots on the ground. It's one of the secrets of no agenda is we have somebody who's an expert in whatever the story of the day is. And it's so easy for everybody to just record something. Maybe if there's something going on, you can send it in. There might be a way to work that into the show.

I think, Darren, you already got three or four different new openings for the show. Yeah, of course, we can work on always more is good, more choices. Yeah. I see Mike Riley has just been reactivated. He's doing art now. I mean, come on, man. This is awesome. Thank you, no agenda nation.

It's just so, so beautiful to see all of this happening. Yeah, when the Stur Duke of the South came looking for artists for those shadow boxes, I'm like, well, you don't want me, but you want Mike Riley and Roger Roundy and a few others. Right. Right. You know, they're not the AI junkies, man. They know how to, Mike Riley's stuff is amazing. Yeah, thank you. Actually, I'm just remembering now that I hit the bat signal, but I didn't post it on X. So why don't you guys talk amongst yourselves and I'll do what I was supposed to do here. You got to boost the to. You got to let everybody know the show's live. If you're not listening on a podcasting 2.0 app, you are missing out. because that way you get your notification when the show goes live

which you want to listen live yeah absolutely have you have you guys been following trump's hair that seems to be the biggest news of the moment it is a big thing what is going on with trump's hair i saw it got bigger what it's got bigger i didn't see any photos but i just saw something like it's blown out or something i don't know if he's looking to go uh maybe try out for the w nba who knows I think he needs a stronger grade of hairspray because it seems like it's blowing out of place a lot more easily

so I think that that might be part of it. Well, Larry, you say you always could see a toupee. Is this real? That is my superpower. I don't know if Adam knows that yet, but I can spot a rug from... Is Trump's real? Yes, no, I do know this is your superpower. It's not quite as impressive as the vasectomy,

but it's an important skill to have. That was really, really impressive. I got to say that. No kidding. Vasectomy spotting like, what? So did I recall it was like the underpinning of that was the reduced tea counts or something

and so they didn't quite comport themselves with as much masculinity as a unvesectomized guy would or what did he base that on? Oh, the history was that vasectomies were done back in the back in the day, I don't know,

1800s, I forget what century, were performed as a a youth-making experience to make someone appear younger. So, you know, kind of like the Botox of the day. Right. It seems a little more painful. But that was the, it was the Botox of the day to make men, you know, men wanted to look. And even then, you know, back in those 17, 1800s, you wanted to look a little feminine.

That was kind of sexy of the day. Maybe that's been Billy Idol's secret. So I looked so young. Is that what he good? Now, if Steve Stevens still playing with Billy? Oh, my. Is he playing? You know what?

that guy tell me riddle me this why is that guy's name not up there with hendricks and claptin and bex i mean he should absolutely be there so i interviewed him did you oh yeah late 80s and he came into the studio because you know i think it was might have been headbanger's ball i don't remember and this is you remember these days larry back in the day like when even the vj's got gold and platinum records and like yeah thanks for thanks for helping son here's something to hang on your wall And he came in and he gave me his signature Steve Stevens, a Hamer guitar. Oh.

I still have it. I still have it. That's cool. Sound by Steve Stevens, yeah. He was just a nice guy. Yeah, yeah. And so New York, right? His New York accent.

Very much. He literally walked down the street. Oh, he just walked down the street to the studio. No, had a guitar case. Here, Adam, how he did him? These guys were all very, very New York, very New York. Love that about him. And then there's, if there's a classic guitar story, Joe Satriani,

who I think is also just virtuoso, the guy is so good. You can look it up on YouTube. There's two versions. There's a longer version, and he's going to give me guitar lessons. He's going to show me. Now, I'm not actually holding a guitar, but he has a guitar. He says, okay, Adam, and he says, now this is, and he does some, he has a little bit of stuff back in front, but that's not really what makes you a great guitar player.

And here's something you could practice at him. You've got to make your faces. So it was teaching me the right face to make. Oh, when you hit, when you hit this one, you go, you got to pull the lips back like that. And you've got to close your eyes. That's what makes a great guitar player right there. That's great stuff.

Yeah, you can have the sound. It's not in the gear. I mean, Ted Nugent told the story about Eddie Van Halen where when he met him, He's like, you know, how do you get that sound? And Eddie handed him his guitar. He's like, I played it. I sound like Ted Nugent still. I don't know how he, you know, made those sounds.

It wasn't trickery. It wasn't gear. It was just pure talent in the way he played. Talent's in tone, ma'am. That's what it is. Yes. And the tone comes in the hands. Yes, it does.

Yeah. You cannot fake it. I felt bad for the rhythm guitarist on stage with Billy because, I mean, the guy was very good, but nobody cared. It's just, you know. He's getting paid to stand. in the back and strum a few chords. And Billy, he'd a couple of sisters backing him up. They were unbelievable.

These chicks. Oh, my God. They were so fantastic. It was really one of the best shows I ever seen. Really, really great. Yeah. Glad he's still around. I mean, that guy's head up.

Was this the Westbury Music Fair? No, this was at the Mohegan Sun Hotel Casino. And I had to laugh like hell because a couple of times during the show, The hotel is located in a little dinky town called Unkisville, Connecticut, right? And a couple of times he was doing songs, and he would shoehorn in the words Unkisville, Connecticut. And so when we left, they turned my wife. I said to her, why the hell did he keep saying, I can spell Connecticut? That's what I heard.

Yeah. Oh, no. He was basically doing Hello Cleveland. And you miss out of the script. Okay, good. Yeah, nice. So Logan 5 in the troll room is talking about the gold and platinum records. I just need to say something about that.

In the early days, you actually could take the gold or platinum record out of the case, and you could play it. However, you had to play it backwards because it was a gold or platinum-plated version of, I guess they call it the mother. Right. So when you... Inverse, right? Inverse, yeah. So you literally had to play it backwards, but they did play. They actually did play. Later, it was just crap. I mean, mine still have, later I got the CD versions from Michael Jackson and Arrow Smith, which is, those are some of my, I like those because I can always, you know, connect the story to it. But I have a lot of the old school platinum and gold records, and they all have a little cassette stuck to the. the right hand bottom corner, you know, because it also sold on cassette back in the day. And those, of course, over the years have, you know, come unglued and dropped,

and they're kind of loose in the case. Memorabilia is fun. If you play them forward, would they reveal the masked satanic lyrics? I buried Paul. Yeah, I was just assumed those were, you know, made up, and they weren't actually the album. So it's good to know they actually took a copy of the album and made those awards. did for a while, for a while, but it got old and they didn't do that anymore.

And then the whole industry changed and nobody buys music anymore. You still do, right? You buy a lot of vinyl. Well, the vinyl, yeah, now that's the... You know what's crazy? You know how Spotify? Spotify is in a very difficult position with podcasts because they are also owned by... I mean, it's public company, but a lot of the insiders who own shares early on were the publishing companies and the record companies who own the rights to all this music,

which is why artists really don't get paid very well. Because they don't own their publishing. You know, sound exchange came in, and so there is some money, but the whole system is screwy because they just put it into a big pot and then they divide it up by plays. So the whole thing is corrupt and no good. But we were never on Spotify with this show because they had an early contract that said, First of all, signing a contract with basically a podcast app. I'm like, no.

Right. That's not going to do that. Then they, and they'd put us on and, you know, they could play ads in front of our podcast. Like, no, I don't want that. So I went through all kinds of hoops to get us taken off and we got finally got taken off. Then I guess it was like a year ago or something. And we were talking about them, I'll put us back on Spotify, which of course couldn't happen because somewhere in their database that said never import.

the feed because those guys are dicks so you know you don't want them they got that undone but then we've had episode after episode taken off because of a violation of music copyrights you cannot have any music in your podcast on Spotify and at first I thought it was you know just any music that was detecting something I know that we we have some songs that are technically completely legal because it's parody of an existing song. And it's within the context of the show. So we're not releasing it as a separate entity. But the other day I got two. And I'm like, what is going on? What are they striking us off? You know, you can appeal it. Yeah, I'm going to click that link. No, whatever. You should use a real podcast app.

What's happening is people who do end of show mixes are also submitting. their songs to Spotify for people to enjoy them. So now we're into Spotify music database. They see that we're playing that on our show. Boom, violation. You're out. I see I would have thought it was Sir Chris Wilson because he's done a few parodies that are, you know, again, songs that everybody would know, but putting his spin on it, which that I kind of understand getting clipped before, but yeah, not, not AI. I had to research and I'm like, oh, I see what's happening. But, you know, again, if Spotify were doing the right thing, then, you know, not just doing algorithmic detection,

you know, we have, it is completely within the fair use clause of the copyright law to do a parody of an existing song within the content, you know, not releasing it ourselves, but within the context of an educational program, which of course no agenda is, but we'll never, we'll never to get over that hurdle. So just get a modern podcast that, people. I was once of Spotify by John DeVorak, Adam, you know. This went back, I'm serious. This went back, yeah, at the very height of the COVID thing, I sent you a couple of end-of-show songs. And this one was kind of, it was, it was, of course, a parody of teacher children. No AI, all my own guitar, tracks, vocals, whatever. And you dug it

so much that somewhere, maybe 40, 50 minutes into it when you mentioned it, of so much, show mixes you said and here's something he came in from from that Larry guy this is really cool and you got maybe maybe one and a half bars played and John goes that goes at the end of the show and I thought he really he really is Buzz Kill wow thank you John I gotta dig that one up Larry I completely forgot about that yeah it's it's amazing how people come up to me and say you remember that episode when and and I just go blank I'm like of course I gotta tell you man I really don't remember this at all. It was very funny.

Oh, man. Oh, man. So anyway, I appreciate you guys holding down the fort. And I look forward to, you know, joining on Thursday. I'll be fresh, ready to do some media deconstruction with you. The closure for me in this weekend here has been that,

you know, of course I want to be, you know, I'm still producing for you guys doing clips. and bringing you information. And I always want to be a part of this show, certainly on Thursdays. But I do have a calling to do more with we get to do this with Pastor Jimmy. I'm just going to be honest. I'm 61.

Things happened to me a couple years ago, so I am going to continue to build that up as well. But I'm more convinced than ever that no agenda nation will get through this, will become healthier, will become, I believe, even stronger and bigger. And I like the, I like kind of the troika thing that you guys have started to develop here. And we talked the other day and I encourage you to look at some of the people in No Agenda Nation for maybe joining you on Sunday. Something is changing here. And I got, I got, it feels good to me.

It feels like good things are happening. Like the old morning zoos, but actually funny. Oh, God. Yeah, exactly. And without the bull crap. What was, for a time there, every single morning zoo, which by. By the way, morning radio guys, 90% are overweight. This is just a fact of life.

And it was the Nutra system. And they'd all lead into this. You know, it's like today the podcasts have, you know, if you're worried about the Muslims taking over Texas, you might want to buy some gold. I mean, this is every single podcast does this now. And those guys would all be like, well, you know, you know, Ross, I was stood on the scale this morning.

Oh, it's all water weight. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they, but, you know, I've been on the Nutris system, and it's been fantastic for me. None of these guys ever got under 300 pounds, okay? No. It never, ever, ever works. So without all that lameness, without the joke guy, you know,

without the black guy who does sports, it was also racist these morning zoos, without the hot-sounding news lady who was never hot-looking. Never hot. We need that. Was that Ross, you mentioned, Ross Britain? Ross Britain. Yeah, you know exactly them to a good talking about.

I know Ross very well. And I used to write stick for the Z when it first started with him. And I figured it was partners. No kidding. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is going way back. And I won't tell you now, but Ross then duked me into a job at WNW AM, from which I was eventually fired by proxy by Sinatra.

Wow. I'll tell that story another time. It's absolutely true. I believe it. I believe it. But Ross was a good guy, but the Z morning zoo used to drive me nuts. Is he still alive? I think he is.

I saw him like on Facebook a couple years back, and he was doing morning drive on, I forget who it. It was still in New York Station. Ross is good guy. Wow. I liked him a lot. Yeah. It was, now, they had Mr. Leonard. Do you remember Mr. Leonard?

Mr. Leonard? Mr. Lenny. Of course I remember. So this guy had a super gig. Mr. Leonard was, again, a guy who was at least 300 pounds. and four foot 10. And he, it's Mr. Leonard. And he had this voice.

And he was funny. I mean, he had funny bits, but he would call 15 stations a day. But he would call them from the station he was visiting. But Mr. Leonard, it sounded like Mr. Leonard lived in New York. He drove a lime green pinto. The guy lived in Philly, I think. And, you know, so he'd be, for a week, he'd be at Z-100. And when he wasn't doing his little st.

he'd call these other 15 stations, and the next week he'd be in San Diego or wherever. I mean, the guy had an unbelievable gig, just being this one character on all these radio stations, back when radio stations were local, you know, when you just had a local station, you had your local guys, now it's like Elvis Duran in the morning, good morning, San Francisco, good morning, Dallas, good morning, Philadelphia. You know, become so homogenized and crappy that I'm, I'm going to be. glad that we have a podcast like ours. Absolutely. It's all Jack FM, accent on the Jack.

It is, it is. Straight up, straight up, straight up. Amazing. This is the more you're going to find out about Larry. I mean, he's probably on the mob's hit list if he had Sinatra got him fired. So talking about Sinatra. So last night, we're taking an Uber back from Oakland. And where it's sitting in the back, we're tired. And we're hearing all these songs. And Tina says, I miss George Michael.

See, I miss him too. This, you know, one of his ballad songs. And then another song comes on, and I'm like, oh, this is Linda Ronstadt with that black guy who had like the big mole above his eye. Peebo Bryson? No, no. Aaron Neville. So we're trying to figure, like, who was that guy's name? And the driver says, Aaron Neville.

I said, yeah, man, but you're looking up there at the display. He says, no, this is my playlist. And he has a little bit of an accent. and so the older guy. And so, of course, we're talking to him. And he's like, well, you know, I had a drink with Frank Sinatra. When I was running the, like the Star's restaurant. And he pulls up his phone, sure enough, sure enough, there he is.

Him and Frank Sinatra having a drink in tuxedo. And now you can just see this guy. He's got to be in his 70s. in the Uber, telling everybody about the good old days with Frank. That's your future, Larry. There it is. Thank you. You're driving an Uber.

Are you a good driver? Driving an Uber talking about your days with Frank. That you got fired by Frank. While podcasting live from the driver's seat. There you go. There you go. Anyway, guys, I'm going to bow out about reaching the end of the energy I've got here. I just want to thank everybody for all the emails, the direct messages, the text messages.

You've been wonderful. Can't wait to see you guys on Thursday. And Darren and Larry, love you guys. We'll talk to you in the week. Take care of yourself. Look forward to it. And thanks for the report. Adios, mofos.

And such. Adios. And such. I don't know how you follow that, but... We're going to try. We'll do just fine. What a pleasant interlude that was. Yeah, you got your Billy Idol story.

Got my Billy Idol story. Yeah. It was... Wow. Who knew? it would lead to all that. What a glorious detour we took. And I've been on Adam since he mentioned that Steve Stevens guitar sitting in his studio. I'm like, you got to learn how to play. He does. And I was looking very close. I had like kissed the stage seats last night. It was amazing.

And of course they had the big video screens flanking it. But he's got a whole signature deal with a Canadian guitar company, I think called Godan or Godin. I don't know, GOD I am. And a couple of them are really oddballs. You know, they've got open headstocks and nylon strings on them and wow, but everything that guy touches sounds great because he's great. Yeah, I'm sure there's still money in that getting guitar companies to make a signature model.

I mean, it's sad that less and less people are actually playing instruments, but you really can't reproduce that when going out live, which is why a lot of these guys are in their 50, 60s, 70s, or some even in their 80s. I mean, Willie Nelson out there in his 90s now playing. It's a dying breed.

I'm hoping it comes back because you can't replace it with, and it's not just AI, but you can't replace it with the electronic music and all the synthesized stuff. I have a Willie story, if you want that. I mean, why not? Before we get into real news deconstruction?

I met him a long time ago, when I was fronting a country band back in the good oldies. And I think, yeah, Adam mentioned And Westbury Music Fair, which was a very small venue. It was only a couple thousand people, and it was a stage that revolved in a circle. So there were no bad seats, none. And it was such a different world back then without psychos in every corner. Well, yeah.

That, you know, my band, it was the Cadillac Cowboys and my partner. His name was Pontiac Pete. And he goes, hey, man, let's go try to find Willie. Okay. Well, of course. Why not? You know, why not? So we left the arena and walked around the side.

and there was Willie just standing by the tour bus hanging out. He was all alone, walked right up, introduced ourselves. He looks me and goes, oh, another redhead. That's what it was back then. So, but years, I saw Willie again, many years later, many years later in L.A. And a little club 20 miles north of my house called, I forget what that was called. And Willie was much, obviously, we were all much older by them. And he did his show like he was under sniper fire.

I mean, he didn't even wait for the applause between songs. So it must have been like a laugh, because it wasn't announced. It was suddenly a last minute thing I'm driving down the Ventura Freeway, and I see appearing tonight Willie Nelson. I'm a Willie fan. I didn't know of that if there was advance notice, but there was. So somebody must have dropped out. Willie was in the neighborhood and they said, do you want a gig? That's probably how it went down.

And he's probably, he was probably pushing 80 by then, you know, and he's not Billy Idol. He didn't quite look that good. And so at the end of the show, it's swarmed by chicks who are, you know, 21 to 30, leaping up on stage, handing him Sharpies and pulling down their tops so he can autograph their boobs. Kevin McLaughlin, you hearing that, buddy? And I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, if this guy wasn't a massive music star, and he even spoke to any of these girls at the checkstand at the supermarket, they dial 911. You know, this is the power of music and stardom.

Yeah, this is the problem. This is a, learn how to play the guitar, kids. Exactly, exactly. Absolutely. And Willie, I've seen him in concert a few times. And he could, this is part of even Elvis later in his career, when they would rip through a five-minute song in a minute flat, you know, it's, uh, some artists are a little different live.

Willie was good, but, you know, I get it. When you got like 8,000 hits, you got a hit as much as you can. in a live show. You do. You do. Now, you're starting us with a depressing story out in Michigan?

Somebody commented, I love how much Larry hates commies. I think one of the reviews that popped up on one of the podcasts. I take that as a great compliment. I hate them with no apologies either,

none whatsoever. Yeah, this must be that El Cajad guy, right? Yes. Okay, so he's going to speak about how glorious he is and how he's going to fix everything, including Medicare. And did you know, Darren? Did you know? The problem with Medicare is racism.

Isn't everything? Isn't that the problem now racism? I guess, but I didn't know it applied to Medicare, but now we're about to find that, how true that is. One of the biggest challenges that we have when it comes to racial inequalities in health, which is the area of my expertise is what I studied, what I wrote my dissertation on, is that we have a, multi-class healthcare system.

Yeah. So even if you have coverage on Medicaid, Medicaid reimburses at nearly half the rate as private health insurance. So healthcare companies are like, I'm so sorry, but you're paying half-rate. So you get discriminated against at the point of care. And too often in urban communities, because of structural racism, because of the circumstances of segregation, you end up having situations where you may have health insurance through Medicaid, but you don't have health care, because you can't get your Medicaid accepted where you need to get care. Now, there you have that, right?

Well, New Rinkle was uncovered. He has a wife who is a psychiatrist. Her name is Sarah Jakuku. Oh, you can't make that up. I'm sorry, I'm mispranized. Jackaku. Oh, that's different. J-U-K-A-K-U.

And she runs a private practice in Ann Arbor called Mind Work Psychiatry. And as I was reading this, I thought, I wish Darren had like a therament clip to put it in. You know, mind work psychiatry. Anyway, here's the kicker, man. This guy's beefing about, oh, I knew you could do it, man. If anybody's beautiful. The podfather provides all clips.

Oh, that's great. So she opted out of Medicare in 2025. Oh, let me back up a second. Their income, their family income for last year was about 700 grand, almost all of it, hers. So she's doing real well with the mind work psychiatry. She opted out of Medicare in 2025, according to records, reported by the Washington Free Beacon. So she can't bill the program. And she's not listed as an eligible provider on any of the insurance plans that provide coverage for Medicare.

So, you know, she's exactly the type of physician or shrink that her husband is deriding. So she's not taking Medicare or Medicaid patients. No. No, only for special people. You know. So then there's more. It says MindWorks website notes that, quote, Dr. Jukaku is out of network for all insurance companies, meaning patients must pay out of pocket for her services,

something, quote, black and brown folks who are low income, as they'll say I'd put it, are unlikely to be able to afford. So just for the hell of it, I went to the site and guess what I saw? It says, this site is currently private. If you're the owner or contributor log in. You had to pull that, you always know it's bad when the social media or the website disappears. Yeah. And I should probably throw one into somebody's lap and knows what they're doing like you.

But I went to, what's that thing? The Wayback Machine and several other clones of that, seeing, you know, maybe somebody's got some pages on what it looked like before they walled it off, but couldn't find a damn thing. Well, that's it. That's it. Everything has been turned into it's racist. Yes. it is the medical system in this country is flawed i don't think anybody is going to argue that it is the perfect system that anybody's ever come up with no i mean i remember hearing

you know guys like russian limbaugh talking about well i don't really have insurance i just have enough money that if anything goes wrong you know i can afford to pay for it so you've got that level of people and then you go all the way down to the lowest common denominator and yeah There are things that aren't perfect, but I really have yet to see any evidence that anything is going to be approved based upon the color of somebody's skin and disapprove for the reason of the color of their skin. It's like it doesn't happen. I mean, again, people throw these kind of things out there. It's why the left loves throwing it out there because they know one, there are going to be some people that just believe it. Sure.

And then it's also going to be in the world now, which is the AI brain. That's exactly right. It's going to pop up on chat GPT. You know that. Of course. Yeah. It has to eventually at some point or not. And as you pointed out last time, this is why they absolute flood everything with their crap,

knowing if the seepage is going to be fast and thick into AI. It's just the way it's going to be. Yeah, there's no question about it. No. No. Now, does the next clip go with that one, or is that we... That would be, this is a different one. You're talking about the Jason Ardei clip?

Yeah, let's hop into that one that we can do. Okay. Three by three in honor of JCD. All right. Okay, this is an interesting story. Before I get to Jason, this is basically, this is, Great Britain's answer to George Santos. Remember the Santos guy? In New York, the liar, the compulsive liar that got elected as a Republican.

Yes. Very bad glasses. Very bad glasses. And so the guy had this litany of lies that were mind-blowing. Like he claimed he graduated from Baruch College and got an MBA from New York University. Both said, never heard of him. He said he worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigorp. They said, never heard of him. He said he and his family's owned 13 rental properties. Never happened. He said he said, He was a volleyball star at Baruch, but of course, how could that happen? Nobody ever fact checks, right? I guess they finally did. And then he established an animal charity that brought in a lot of a lot of yen for our four-legged friends, right?

But finally, they caught up with them. And interestingly enough, when they said, what the hell are you doing? And his answer was, most people lie on their resumes. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. So at the same time, you know, this went on two or three years ago with this guy, with a, come on, brain work. With Santos. Santos.

So then this guy, Ardena, was just hit the papers or the websites, you should say. And he obviously was thinking, hold my beer when that went on. So this is, this clip is one of his academic. sycophants, introducing him. Okay, this is, when I heard this woman speaking, I'm thinking, you know, when she's going to drop the name at the end of her rap, it's got to be Jesus. I mean, really, listen to what she has to say. I'm Rajne Naird, I'm vice president for community and inclusion, a UNESCO chair and

co-director of the International Center for Higher Education at the University of Bar. So it's a great, great, great pleasure to welcome Professor Jason Arde. Jason is Professor of Sociology of Education at the University of Glasgow. Previously, he was Associate Professor in Sociology at Durham University and the Deputy Executive Dean, the People and Culture. He is a visiting and honorary professor at many, many universities, including Ohio State, the US, Durham in the UK and Nelson Mandela University in South Africa. Jason also holds

numerous trusteeships, including at the Rani Mead Trust, which is the UK's leading race equality think tank. Jason is also a fellow of the RSA. Oh my God, you keep going on and on and on. Yeah, it's it's beyond belief. Yeah, yeah. Is that all she had to say? Is there something else? There's another 20 seconds, but I'd say, you know, we've heard enough. This is a hell of an introduction. I mean, it's beyond. And then she says he's like, and it's a spectacular scholar, blah, blah, blah, right? So anyway, so he just got.

Well, I'm just thinking, Larry, we can change our intro to this show to be like an hour long, and then that's less work. I like that. That's a hell of an idea. We need long intros. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Jason, he actually, like I said, he made Santos look like an amateur.

Here's just a quick rundown of the lies he told. First, he said that he was a star of a famous British documentary called Seven Up. But the only problem is that he was born 21 years after the documentary was filmed. Then he claimed he was autistic and nonverbal until the age of 11. Other witnesses disproved that. You like this one. Did you know he ran 30 marathons in just 35 days? Wow.

I guess. And maybe he was thinking like, that's a little tough to, you know, other people are those marathons. You know, there could be like a registry or something for them. So then he followed up with, I also ran 600 miles in six days on a treadmill, because treadmills don't talk, and they don't keep records, right? Says he raised millions of pounds for various charities, overcame a brain tumor while completing his PhD. Then they found out that there were hundreds of passages in his dissertation that were plagiarized, right? So he didn't, he didn't dispute being a plagiarist, but would he what he did see, he defended himself by saying that he had not received adequate supervision

during his PhD, given his autism and learning disabilities. Wow. Yeah. And it just goes on and on. And so, but the funny thing is, just like Santos, when they kind of, you know, held his feet to the fire, he said, well, to be honest with you, I thought you'd just believe me. So, but here's the... We've seen it happen.

We've seen it happen. But here's the big ironic kick in the ass to Simon & Schuster, which is about to publish his book very soon, August 11th, it drops in the USA. You can't believe this title. Great and unfortunate things. You can't make this up. This is the new world we're living in. Misinformation is more prevalent. But this guy is like barely 40.

He's an internet child. He was raised. How can he be that stupid? I mean, you can't do anything today without it being documented by someone in some way somewhere. Right? Unless you're planting the backstory. Now, this was when people started pulling scams on the internet.

They would create a website with fake bios and fake information. So when people went to look it up, they'd find them and be like, oh, it must be true. This has just been multiplied now by, I don't know, a million more. This guy's, he running for office like Santos? No, no, he's, I think he's running for cover. He's just trying to sell books. He's a... I guess.

I mean, I guess if you're going to pad your resume, sometimes you need more than just a blurb from JCD on the book. You need a lot of blurbs that really come from nobody. Yeah. And now it's time for three by three. by JCD comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC

The Neverending 3 by 3. Yeah, John C. DeVorek created it, but I think we can use it every now and then because it's a valuable way to look at what the media is saying about certain topics. In this case, Larry, it is the

Trump ballroom. And we'll start with the Trump-friendly Fox News. Hmm. Hi, Shannon. A lot of updates on this story. Two of the panel's three judges ruled today that President Trump does not have the unilateral authority to knock down the East Wing almost a year ago to build a new 90,000 square foot ballroom, which includes an underground military bunker. The majority of the judges wrote, we are aware of no instance in American history in which a president unilaterally and using privately collected funds demolished substantial portions of the White House.

that Congress authorized to be built and American tax payers paid for until now. The president says he will appeal to the Supreme Court, adding, the military and secret service are viewing this horrendous politically motivated and unlawful ruling as a national security threat to our nation in that the entire complex is being built for the protection of our country. Now, Shannon, the ballroom is just one of several ways the president is trying to leave a lasting mark on the nation's capital. The 250-foot Archie's proposing between the Lincoln Memorial,

and Arlington National Cemetery has yet to take shape, but a recent National Park Service assessment points out the structure would change the views of dozens of historic sites. Like the ballroom, there's a lawsuit aimed at blocking the arch. President Trump is also having a new helipad built for Marine One to land on the south lawn, and there are reports he's already changed his mind a few times on that. Shannon, after construction, has already gotten underway.

No, when Donald Trump would never change his mind about anything, Would he? Never. Never. No, put it there. No, put it there. No, it would look better there. God. But they are pointing out one thing that's starting to come out with this story, which is there seems to be a much different take legally based upon if what's being built is above ground or underground. The courts are seemingly pointing now like he can do whatever he wants underground because it's security, blah, blah, blah. Oh, okay. The above ground is where the real problem comes into. Some people don't want the ballroom. And the report here is correct.

There is no other point in history where this kind of massive change was enacted by the president without having some congressional approval. But the difference is, and this is where the courts are going to come in because I'm not a lawyer like rob the constitutional lawyer. I have no idea if it was because Trump. needed the funding from Congress to build it. And since he got the funding privately, he has the ability, or if he still needs somebody else's approval, even if he's got the money. But this, of course, same story. This is the very Trump unfriendly ABC. President Trump's White House ballroom project is hitting its biggest roadblock yet. A federal appeals court today issuing a new ruling blocking further construction of that

$400 million ballroom saying only Congress has the authority to approve changes to the historic structure. Our Stephen Portnoy has been tracking this for us. And Stephen, I want to start with this. I mean, what is the essence of the judge's ruling here? What is the essence? Oh, yeah, that's kind of like what do you make of it, isn't it? It's very similar, yeah. I wasn't the original price of that $200 million, Darren? Did they double that? It keeps going up, just like he keeps moving the hell of that. I can see, but I don't know how much money he's got. He's like, hey, people keep giving me. me money, so I'm going to build a bigger pool. I don't know. You know, basically, this two-to-one ruling from the D.C. Circuit Appeals Court is that

the White House does not belong to the president. He's not the owner of the executive mansion, that he's merely a tenant. And in this two-to-one ruling, the Obama and Biden appointed judges who ruled against the president said that, quote, whether or not a massive ballroom should be constructed is for Congress to decide and is not a matter for executive self-help. And so the bottom line is the judges are saying that but for a security or safety-related things, the injunction that was imposed earlier this year by a lower court has to go into effect. Now, the ruling itself is paused for two weeks, and that's to allow for the president if he decides to do it, to appeal, which he said today he's going to do.

Well, and Stephen, where does that leave this construction project? Well, it's important to point out a couple of things. One, as I mentioned, the appeals court itself put in place a two-week stay, a pause to allow for the president to appeal, which he says on social media today, this unjust decision must be overturned by the Supreme Court in its entirety. The president says he's going to immediately appeal it to the Supreme Court. There's another step he could take if you wanted to, and that's called NBank Review, which would have all the judges of the D.C. What? No, stop. End bonk.

What? Spell that for me, please. End bonk. I think it would just be N with a bong, which is probably a B-O-N-K, really. They think. I mean, if that's not a show title, I don't know what is. That's it. N-banc, end-bong.

I guess all the judges get together, but you know, they're not going to be friendly towards him either. So it's very interesting to see how this stuff plays out. And Trump, with his social media stuff, I think a lot of people, even that back, the president would like him to, you know, tone things down a little. If you're going to the Supreme Court, you don't have to say like, hey, the obviously unjust. It's like, just say, I believe this was an unjust. Yeah.

You know, the obviously, and then if they rule against you, then that's where people are like, ah, he doesn't even know what he's, he's got dementia. Of course. I have a solution for him, though, Darren. Do you fix all of the problems? All of, well, all his ballroom problems. Become a dictator? needs to do is bring in the designers, the guys, the brains behind those very successful toys, Transformers.

You know those things, right? So make it a transformer ballroom. You push a button and all of a sudden it turns into a heavily armed bunker. Now it's your problem. It's like they need more, I mean, especially at this point when you have state actors from Iran and others, I'm sure, that have hits out on the president. I mean, there's never been a more dubious time for, I guess is the right, dangerous time for somebody in his position. And I understand why they want a place where they can do things like a ballroom there makes sense being the fact that, you know, Trump often goes in D.C. to things like the media dinner that he had him rescheduled because of the assassination attempt. Yeah, at that hotel.

Absolutely. because the security obviously was a little bit subpar. So, I mean, this would be nice to have that in-house. And this is all, I mean, I know this is a surprise to everybody listening right now. That's a producer of no agenda. This is just political. It really isn't anything else. Of course.

Because a ballroom is going to be there. If a Democrat wins, you'll be pissed. Oh, wow, we've got this nice ballroom to go and use. Yeah, but you know, commies don't like. dancing. Well, Bernie did. I thought he went to rush on his honeymoon so he could... But Bernie could dance. I want to see that. Probably 70, 80, 90 years ago. However, when did Bernie get married? Long time, long time. Appear it to the Supreme Court. There's another step he could take if he wanted to, and that's called En banc review, which would have all the judges of the D.C.

Circuit looking at it, but the president is going to go right to the Supreme Court. And he also pointed to what his own appointee, Naomi Rao, said in her dissenting opinion today, which is that the National Trust for Historic Preservation, which brought this lawsuit, doesn't have standing to sue. That was an argument that the administration has been making throughout this litigation, but was rejected by the majority, which said that the Congress has to vote to authorize this project, which the president has not really directly asked lawmakers to do. Yeah, which is a very good point as well. I hate to agree with ABC. But there's been a lot of things under this second Trump term that the easy answer seems to have been go and get it passed in Congress. You control the House, you control the Senate. Right.

Why not just go that route that nobody can complain? Well, and Stephen, I'm also curious. What does this mean for the president's bunker that was supposed to go under that ballroom? This really gets at the security and safety exception. And, you know, Judge Richard Leon of the district court who looked at this earlier this year said, the president is making an argument that this ballroom is necessary for national security. The president demolished the east wing of the White House that historically had a bunker underneath it that dated back to World War II, FDR's time.

Well, now the argument is that bunker needs to be replaced. And so the judge earlier this year said, all right, we will allow you to continue building those parts of this project that are necessary to the security and safety of the president. The appeals court judges today affirmed that. One of the things that Naomi Rao, the dissenting judge, said, in her opinion, is the idea that now the district court judge, Judge Richard Leon, is going to be required to review various parts of the plan and discern for himself what is or is not security related,

which essentially would have the court micromanaging those decisions. That's what Naomi Rao believes, and the administration, I think, believes it's going to have a strong argument in that respect going to the Supreme Court on it. So it seems if you really finally go through all of these reports and there's still one from CBS, you're going to understand that the Trump people are just going to say, and they pointed out in the ABC report, the bunker is World War II or previous. Yeah.

I'm guessing it needed some upgrading. I would think. And for this reason also, it's a proven fact that several members of FDR's cabinet were Soviet spies. Who knows what kind of crap they packed into the floorboards there. Drew, I would hope they have swept for it since then. I would think. I would hope. You never know what was built in.

Yeah. You know, that is part of the issue. I mean, everybody went nuts when Donald Trump wanted to bring that new jumbo jet Air Force One home. No, no, we got to look at it first. We got to sweep it. I wonder how, like, perfect those sweeping systems are. Do they ever miss stuff? You know, that's weird about that.

They have to. Nothing's perfect. As technology gets better, as everything is wired for the internet, it becomes much easier because you used to look for radio waves. You know, if somebody was bugging your office, well, that audio had to get out somehow, unless there was just a recorder locally, and that's probably going to get found, because recorders aren't at that point anyway, were not super small. But now you know how small cameras and microphones are and connecting them into the internet to go out of wherever, whatever building you're in.

Not that hard to do. No. Even I could do it. Yeah. Why would people go into like Airbnb's now? You got to sweep. You got to look because. Oh, you know what?

A couple of years ago, I was supposed to connect with some friends somewhere. I forget where the hell it was. And so for my first time, my wife always does the travel stuff, but I wouldn't go to. I wasn't going to burden her with my stuff. And I started looking for Airbnb's. I was astonished at how many people in review said, I'll never stay in this dump again. It was loaded with cameras.

And not on the outside, on the inside. I thought, well, really? That's awful. And in most jurisdictions, that's legal if they're not doing audio. It's just security cameras, Larry. Yeah, that's right. It's for your safety. They're all in the bathroom and the changing rooms. That's for no apparent reason.

But here is CBS, which surprisingly enough was fairly straightforward with the story. Really? Hmm. Yes. Let's talk about the job site, the ballroom situation here behind us. The president says he will appeal this three judge appeals court decision to the Supreme Court arguing that there's a national security imperative now to finish it. But what he forgot to mention is that the court order today said that the national security work

underground can in fact continue. It's everything from ground. up that they're worried about, at least in the case of these three judges with the appeals court, because they say, as the district court had previously, the president didn't have the authority to do this on his own. Congress has full oversight of federal property and how money is spent on it. This is, in essence, remember, a national park, and Congress oversees the National Park Service. So, President, not happy about that, reiterating that it is not just a 90,000 square foot ballroom, but there's going to be all these other national security, military medical

facilities underneath. It needs to be finished. And anyone who suggests otherwise is un-American. So I don't know, is this the new regime under CBS? It's got to be the Ellison influence. It has to be. They actually get something that was just news. This is how news reports that reminded

me of growing up, or it was just the news. Not how you should think. Not, oh, no, Trump good or Trump bad. When we heard a lot of Trump good in the Fox, we heard a lot of Trump bad in the ABC. Yeah. But this is why JCD invented it.

And now it's time for three by three. Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending three-by-three. Which really is the heart of the media deconstruction is to be like, hey, here's a story. Here's how it's being told three different ways. And why do you think that is? If you once you start thinking critically, kids, you're much better off.

When did John first record that jingle? Well, he didn't record the jingle, but this is... Well, somebody. This thing has been around for as long as I can remember, although it could be the Mandela effect. Yeah, because it's really, it should be the four by four. Well, of course, well, and that's what I was like, okay, there was a choice for me to do CBS or CNN,

and I'm like, well, this is the three main, and of course there's PBS now, and then you've got the cable news, which are on a different level, just from the fact that cable news doesn't have to pay the United States to use the airwaves where ABC, CBS NBC does. But I'm not saying you can't do a three-by-three

with the others. I mean, it still works, but I would think the four-by-four being the fourth would be Fox. No, that's the other really, the network, I guess. Yeah, well, Fox News and Fox, the regular, are usually within shooting distance of each other. So they're broadcast. You've got Fox, the network, which is over the broadcast,

and then you have Fox News, which is solely over cable. And then, of course, a lot of people don't know. News Nation is owned by the people that run the CW, which is WGN. And that's split a bunch of ways as well. But for regular news, I mean, there's at least interesting. I mean, you've got the Cuomo guy there, but you've got... Is he still doing it, really? Is that right?

Leland Vittert and they have a decent lineup which they're trying to bring people from both sides on, which is usually the most fun you can have in news is having an actual argument between two different people with different opinions, which now you don't see... Nothing annoys me more than turning on something like CNN. And having four people in the little, you know, usually a host and then four people in the little boxes. And they're all saying the same thing. It's like, couldn't you get one person that disagreed? I agree.

It's not fun. Nobody wants to hear agreement all the time. No, it's not fun and it's not pleasant. You know, that's why I rarely watch any of them, but I do enjoy the fox thing because it seems like it's always hot-looking women. With great legs and high heels, you know, sitting in chairs where they have to cross their legs. It's like, yeah, CNN is like, no, it's depressing, really. It's like, it's like some academic crap, you know. Yeah, Fox figured out that one a long time ago.

If you're going to have anybody doing news, attractive women will bring the demographic that we want in. Yeah, and I think Brooke Baldwin is at the front of that class. And was it a book? She came out with an article. Recently I read something she had said about how much she loved sex and different kinds. And I thought, wow, you know. Welcome to Fox News. Exactly.

Thank you, Brooke. Hmm. Now, you've got a clip here on Sunday at church. I mean, is this? Yeah, I thought because it's a Sunday show, you know, and I kind of stumbled on this one. And, you know, insanity crosses every boundary and every, every vocation, every profession, you know,

and you never know where you'll encounter them. And what would me think of this is years ago, Before my wife and I were married, we both had apartments in the west side of New York, and we went to this church, I forget the name of it. And goddamn, Darren, it was pre-smartphone days. I think we were, like, still on pagers back then, unfortunately, because we went to this mass, like a regular Sunday mass walk in, you know, pretty good-sized crowd, and there are several hundred people.

And this priest, who was, like, you know, very gay, started his sermon. And the sermon was Jesus is my... lover. And over the course of his homily, which probably ran, I don't know, seven or ten minutes or something like that, he kind of, he never got graphic, but he described sort of the things he wanted to do with the King of Kings. This was a Catholic church in New York. This was a Catholic, this was a Roman Catholic church. And I remember, oh, yeah, and I remember back in my apartment, I had a VHS camera. And I thought, could I possibly sprint back there fast enough to grab that cinder block, lug it back here and get some of this

because it was absolute gold and I remember looking around with my wife and just my girlfriend the jaws on people their jaws were on their chest I mean it was like a comedy bit it was beyond belief so anyway Was this guy not vetted? I mean

you came up with the term the corporate god providers did they not vet this guy? I don't know I never went back to that church it was a really bizarre experience you know and then I stumbled on This is a guy from somewhere in Oklahoma. His name like preacherd smidridge or something.

I don't know. Listen to what this cat's doing. And when he's smart speaking, know that I just want to give you the visual setup. He starts at the podium, you know, up on the altar. And it's like, I think it's a Baptist or it's not a Catholic church. And he's obviously pretty ticked off at the start of it. And he very quickly steps down into.

to the audience and gets right in people's faces, as he says. So it's not like, I want you to know, he's not like talking about people in ether. They're there. They're close. They're right there. Close. Yeah. Don't go to sleep while I'm talking.

Hey, hey, hey, don't, don't you lay your head back. I'm important. I'm somebody. Now, you might do your English teacher that way, but I'm not teaching English. I'm teaching eternal life here. I love you. You know I love you. Have I convinced you I love you?

Yeah. You better nod your head. Yeah. Sorry. Come on. Put it out there. All right. You stay awake and you listen to me. You say, well, he may never come back. Well, he ain't here now. And where have you been? Mr. Underwood. And I noticed on the calendar I'm supposed to marry y'all, what makes you think I'd marry you?

You're one of the sorriest church members I have. Wow. You're not worth 15 cents. And you want me to marry you to her, and you want to marry him, and he don't even know where he belongs, and you don't even know where you belong. Now, let me see. tell you all everybody here how much I love these kids. Do you know I love you, sir? Stand up, big boy. Big boy. Do you know I love you? All right. Yeah, he gives him a bear hug. Wow, this is a whole different kind of church. Isn't that crazy? You're not worth 15 cents. Come here. Let me

show you how much I love you. Wow. I mean, at least I'll give this guy, he seems like he is worthy of at least holding your attention while speaking, because I've had enough, you know, And churches where everything is just so boring that you're trying not to fall asleep. Yes, yes. Sometimes that's just impossible. Sometimes nature takes over and there's absolutely nothing you can do. Exactly. So you just sit back and enjoy the ride.

I got to tell you, he made the guy stand up so he could hug him. And I'm thinking, how's this going to end? I thought maybe there might be a right cross to his jaw or something. Well, I can see that. Yeah. Sure. Of course you could. You're living in a slightly different world right now.

Yeah. As you said, people can snap at any given minute. You never know what you're going to deal with. No. That is the insanity of all of this. Yeah. So how to, okay, so I got to get to the micro clip. I like this guy.

He is good. He is good. This is, you know, he's kind of spells out, you know, in his opinion. It's a very valid opinion what he thinks is wrong. with Gen Zian millennial people. But there's an answer. There's another side to his argument, which I'll give after the clip.

The question doesn't start with what are they doing. It starts with what aren't they doing. They're not volunteering at their local church. They're not in the Kiwanis Club. They're not checking out the Rotarians or the Lions Club. They're not in the Boy Scouts or Skills USA. They're not contributing anything in their community. What are they doing? On average, they're spending between 2,000 and 2,100 hours a year on their screen.

It is just, we just haven't seen the like of it before. How are they able to survive? That's, I don't, I can't paint with too broad a brush. Maybe some of them are trust fund kids. Maybe some of them have enough. A lot of it is money from other generations. Sure. You know, they just hate our generation, except when we give them money, that's always okay.

Yeah. It's always okay when you get daddy's money. Then the boomers aren't so bad. Right? Yeah. So he's not wrong. I mean, if you think about it, that's roughly around 35 hours a week, which is really, that's kind of a full paid, a full-time job with no paycheck. Right? Yes. Yeah. It's beyond belief. So then there was a story that I, that I tripped over that is kind of the other side of that. And I, maybe like Simon will ask Adam. Didn't have. him for a while. Did he put his smartphone aside and he was using like a flip phone or a... Yeah, I think he still uses that as a main phone. And I saw an article in one of the tech publications, I don't remember if it was Wired or the Verge. One of those, there's like four different companies now that are making dumbed down phones and the two or three were flip. Yeah, well, there's what the story says. There's a woman, you know, they interviewed this woman named Kendall something and she remembers the moment she swapped her smartphone for a flip phone.

She said, quote, for me, the second that my iPhone was gone, it was just like heaven on earth. She's a 23-year-old Washington, D.C. resident. This is with CBS News. And it says she's among a growing number of young people, okay? I don't like my smartphone. I was thinking of doing what Adam did. Young people who are ditching his smartphones in favor of stripped down dumb phones in an effort to unplug from social media, et cetera, et cetera. Some feel, nostalgic for an era they never knew before the advent of mobile devices. So then what Mike said is buttressed by the American Psychological Association, which showed that the U.S. teens spending nearly five hours a day on social media.

And yeah, you're right. This chick got her flip phone from dumb.com. Have you heard of that one? No, but that's a great company. Isn't that good? Dumb.com, a startup that sells devices loaded with practical tools like UberMaps and Spotify, but no social media. And this dumb coes

It's got more than 5,000 active users And it's now this is the you know This deserves fanfare Its typical customer is a 24 year old woman How about that? They really want to be forced to be off social media Because you know you don't have to install the app That's true

That's very true But I guess it's easier when people like you know Because then you would have your friends Pressuring you like Why aren't you on here? I don't know my phone I do it won't it doesn't work because you can just you can take it off on your own and these some of these phones will allow you to have the messaging apps so if you want to use something like signal or telegram they'll allow that but then they don't allow although you can probably hack it

I mean all these things are hackable but allegedly don't allow Facebook and Instagram and all of the social media because the social media is where people start going to going down those rabbit holes that are not beneficial. No. I mean, again, I know. We're the old guys. We're the boomers. When we were kids, we used to hop on our bike and go to a friend's house

without even calling first, knock on the door, be like, hey, is Jimmy home? That's right. And if not, you'd go further down the street and be like, hey, is Jack home? You know, I mean, this is looking for something to do. Or you went to the park or wherever people hung out. Yes. The fact that kids just sit at home in their air-conditioned house and play on their smartphone without talking to another human being while possibly being, you know, groomed by somebody in

another country, it's a, it's a, it's a very strange world. But with that said, I think it's very scary what's going on with what some of these states are doing. There's a new meta thing that came out, not a new thing, a new judgment. against Meta. Oh, how much money? This time, another $567 million. That's a pretty big number. I mean, for the way, though, I mean, that's like a day. Yeah, you're right. What am I saying? But in honor of JCD, it's an NTD clip. I'm like, I've never pulled an NTD clip before. I'd never even run across one, so I figured once I saw this, it was a sign.

New legal pressures mounting on META over the impact of social media on children. A New Mexico judge ordering the company to pay $567 million in overhaul safety features on Facebook and Instagram for young users in the state. The judge ruled META's platforms contributed to harms to children's mental health and failed to adequately protect minors from sexual exploitation. The order includes limits on teens' use of Facebook and Instagram. tighter controls on contact between adults and minors and new safeguards for AI chatbots. The New Mexico ruling comes on top of the $375 million in civil penalties. A jury ordered against META earlier this year, bringing the total amount the company is responsible for in the case to $942 million,

a small fraction of its annual profit, which was about $60 billion in 2025. Meta says it plans to appeal maintaining its confident in its record of protection, teens online and has been working on identifying and removing harmful content from its platforms. Now, the case is being closely watched as states and school districts across the country pursue similar lawsuits against social media companies. Yes, one, somebody needs to nationalize, so the individual states can't, this is never going to bring anything good. Mm-hmm.

And they're ignoring the fact that the internet is inherently dangerous. It's like a car. Yes, yes, yes. If you're going to put your child behind the wheel of a car, there's a chance they're going to get into an accident and get injured or worse. The only way to keep your child from getting into a car accident with them driving is to keep them from driving the car

until they are ready to do so. This concept that, you know, oh, we're going to have Facebook or any of these social media companies being in charge of how many hours your kid sits on the, the internet, wouldn't it be better if that was the parent doing that? Sure, but aren't they doing that already in China? Yes. Well, and this is the rub that a lot of the people in the United States are missing,

which is it's always, you know, it's for the safety. It's always for the children, but it, the end result is always, oh, well, for this to work, every adult that's on the internet, well, you're going to need an idea and you're going to have to sign not and we're going to have to know everything you do. But this is the clip from the Attorney General in New Mexico. Of course, I'm sorry, I shouldn't say of course in this case, because there's some Republican

Attorney General's going after the exact same thing. So this shouldn't be politicized except to say that a lot of attorneys general are idiots. Oh, yeah. So I just wanted to give you a quick update on a major victory. Major Victory. Major victory.

We scored against social media and specifically in our case against Meta. Yesterday a judge ordered that Meta pay $567 million for the public nuisance and the harm that they've caused to our kids. That's on top. The public nuisance. This is one of the ways they're going after him, that this is like you having an old Chevy that causes too much noise after 8 p.m. driving down there. It's a public nuisance, Larry. That's what we're these meta and, I'll. It's infuriating the complete lack of understanding.

And, you know, and again, oh, it's major. 567 million. It's like, well, what is Meta make in an hour? Yeah, 60 billion a year? That's not major to them. No. No, it's a rounding error if you're lucky. So, you know, put on your soothsayers cap there, Darren.

Where do you see this? Because you've been yelling about this for years, rightly so. Are they going to achieve their goal? Are we all going to be having to do selfies and sit there with our driver's license or whatever the hell it is so we can get online? What do you think? If they get what they want, it is going to be China, which is for you to log onto the internet, you are going to have to prove who you are with an ID. You're probably going to have to use your smartphone to take a photo of your driver's license with, you know, and here in the U.S., on the back, you've got the bar code. You're going to have to take a picture of that to prove that you are who you say you are while you're logged in, which then again, now, if you end up being one of those parents, it's like, I don't care if my kid uses 8,000 hours, I'll just log them in as me.

It's never a penalty for the parents. It's always going after money from the social media. So this is not about protecting your children. This is only about taking more money from the social media. here in Illinois, the corrupt politicians, J.B. Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago, they put laws into place that said, well, for every person using your social media over 100,000, the city owes you a 50 cent or the state, you owe us a 50 cent tax. So the state of Illinois is like, well, you know, if we got 20 million people on X,

well then you owe us 10 million a month in a tax for us to allow your social media to be. It's always about the money. This is just a different way of going at the money because they're going to make rules and regulations that parents should be in charge of that the penalty is only the social media companies pay more. But this guy goes on here. To our kids, that's on top of the $375 million. judgment we got earlier in the year. That's almost a billion dollars just of the state of New Mexico. To put that in context, if the rest of the country got the kind of judgment that we got yesterday,

it'd be $150 billion to meta. Can you just hear, it's like a wet dream to this guy. If only. Yeah. Every other state. New Mexico, I would characterize that. It's the, it's the Massachusetts of the Southwest. And it wasn't always that way. He used to be a banging state. It still has the most beautiful, you know, sunsets, geography. mountains. It's absolutely gorgeous, but it's been overrun by Kami creeps, and it's become kind of a depressing place outside of, you know, the natural topography. It's sad. Yeah, the sit there and be like, oh, social media is too popular. Let's see if we can monetize it. Yeah, of course. Where the real

answer is keep the children off of devices until they're of age, whatever that is. Yeah. More importantly, however, now they are ordered to change how they do business in our state. This is a fight that's worth having. This is something that I am passionate about, and we're not done yet. We have a lot more left to do specifically updating our laws, our consumer protection laws, and our social media laws here in New Mexico to make it absolutely clear that you can't endanger our kids. You can't allow exploitation, and you've got to do a whole lot more to protect families and people, especially the most vulnerable members of our community.

This is an important victory for us, first in the nation, first in the world. we got a lot more left to do, so stay tuned. Yeah, the amount of Rara is kind of disturbing. And that phrase, more work to do. That's always a commie phrase. Have you noticed that? In the most vulnerable, it's always, oh, it's always, it's the people that are having the biggest,

no, because, you know, rich white kids, they're not having their children exploited on the internet. No, it's always the most vulnerable. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't buy it. Don't buy it for a minute? And parenting just has to be parenting. And these devices, I mean, the concept is insane because anybody with logic can sit in a room.

Even people that are not dudes named Ben, people who don't have any concept of how any of these systems work, you would understand that, well, if a bunch of people are communicating online, you're not going to be able to separate them into different categories. Because if you're like, well, no, only people that are signed up as children under the age of 16 can talk in this group. Because, yeah, no adult is going to figure out how to sign up as... No. Especially when kids in the United States, you don't have an ID until you're getting your driver's license. Maybe, I guess you have a Social Security card, but... Well, not in California. If you want to get medical attention, you have an ID at 12 and your parents can't look at it.

Dude, and I have gotten multiple boots on the ground from your... clip, which I was like, this can't even be real in California. It's real. It is more than real. It's happening in Illinois as well, because California and Illinois are kind of like mirrors when it comes to the law. Oh, yeah. And parents saying, I cannot get my child's medical records without their approval at 12

years old. And you walk into the doctor's office and they don't go, well, do you, you know, do you Do you want your parent to be here with you? It's like, no, the doctor, you don't get that choice. Like, sorry, but this is the world we live in. Well, this is the commie world that we live, and this is commie canon. And it goes back a long, I mean, it goes back a long, long way. And if you think about it, Hillary wrote a very successful book called,

It Takes a Village, right? And that's exactly what it is. It's like, hey, Mom and Dad, you don't matter. The Village is going to raise your kid. You really? Well, try calling the village when your kid's projectile vomiting at 3 a.m. They don't pick up. No.

It's complete crap. It's the state ruling everything. And Gavin, you know, Gavin Newsom and all those dirt bags in California, man, they need to be put in a rocket and then, you know, fired into the sun, really. Because they're just raw, evil, evil people, really. But, I mean, I know we go back to it a lot, but this is literally what the socialist and communist regimes did. They go after the children. Oh, always. They indoctrinate the children,

and this is because then your children start coming home, like, oh, yes, mom and dad, you're problematic, your way of thinking. So I told, I told Governor knew some what you were thinking of doing. Yeah. Home schooling me, ha-ha, they're taking me away. You're going to put me in a nice camp somewhere. Yeah. This is why you need people to stand up and make their voices heard.

One guy that did that, that our buddy, Scott Labido, anybody that's been listening to Planet Rage has heard Scott's voice more than once and I know, I wish we had Bingett I-O like we do for this show for Planet Rage because you could do a search

for anything that Adam and John have talked about over the years. But I know you and I on a few occasions while watching one of Scott's video said, this guy's close to a heart attack, man. If he doesn't... We did that several times. You are correct.

And then he had one because, I mean, when we were doing Planet Rage, which is kind of like no agenda with more swearing and playing up the anger bit, I mean, we're still mad about the stuff, but it's playing it up for the entertainment value. I mean, overall, I think when you and I stop doing the show, when the end of that period of the day, we go off and have fun. Always. We listen to music and we enjoy what we're doing. I think's been pissed off for a long time. You know, I had a, like, kind of an epiphany as I was, just before I sent you this clip about Scott. And he, I mean, he's, the interesting thing about it, he's definitely a right-winger,

his head's in the right place. I love his salty language. He reminds me more of Sinatra speaking-wise than anybody I've ever heard. Yes, yes, absolutely. And Scott, unlike most right-winger's, certainly myself included, I think I'm kind of typical because for the most part, actually I never voted until I had kids. That's the only time I started caring. But I knew it was going on. But still, what do we want to do?

Well, you know, it's like, life is good. I'm going to go see Billy Idol and then, you know, maybe I'll go to the beach and, you know, play with moose for a while. Politics is not the focal point of my existence. but for most lefties like Bernie, like Nuscom, like AOC, it is a religion. They are ideologues. It never leaves their minds. And Scott, in that way, he kind of operates like they do because he never unwound, I think. You know what I mean?

He seemed like he was always ready for combat. And it finally caught up with his aorta, I guess. I think he had a double bite, but whatever. Something very serious, you know. But he's got it flatlined for two minutes. But yeah, ouch. And I do want to point out to people, Larry is not like a northern exposure

out in the woods kind of guy. Moose is a very little white puppy. Yes, moose is 13 pounds of, he's more like a bull of or deer. He just wants to hang around and eat escargo and drink fine wine. People were imagining a much different thing when you're like, I go out, I play with moose.

They're like, whoa, this guy's real. Oh, no. No, no. Moose is a lap dog. 100%. Yeah. And he brings the lady. And that's the only reason to get a cute little white dog. He does.

Is there any other setup on this libido clip? No, it's, well, what Scott is, like I said, he's so hardcore, Darren that I think he had his cardiac episode like four days ago. And then he, within, I think the first or second day, he had a video of himself in his hospital bed. And he's got, you know, he's got IVs going into him and bandages. And it's very serious stuff. But he did a video saying, you know, I'm not done.

I'm still in. Stay with me. You know, I'm getting out of here very soon. I mean, he's a force of nature. There's no question about that. And then this clip really demonstrates that because the guy's arranging things from his hospital bed. Lola, he's got his own Air Force. Listen to this clip.

Like he literally can't even slow down for a minute. No. No. Yeah. Scott Labato organized a protest, America's artists, against Zohan Mandani and they blew him off. Scott had a confrontation, actually had a heart attack, almost died. But today we're just getting this video in first year on Newsmex.

Scott Labedo apparently chartered a plane from his hospital bed and he's flying this banner over New York City with a direct message to Zoharham Mandani and the guy was almost dead. So back from the grave, you see this flying up and down New York City. This is actually a live view right now, first on Newsmex. Mondani, stay away from ground zero. And I don't think you could be any more clear than that. Shocked a guy who just had open-heart surgery took the time. But I guess he wants Mondani to know that the Boeing's not going to stop.

And New York City's getting a clear message from Staten Islanders led by Scott Labedo. Pretty cool, right? Yeah, that's the commitment to the craft. Exactly. I mean, exactly. That guy is a true believer, and wow, I salute him. And I saw the clip, Mam Dani was booed off stage. I think it was mainly by a police audience, was it in New York? Yeah, I guess it was. I'm sure if he had his homies there, they'd have drowned out the police, because he's very popular with them. And then Elizabeth Warren was booed for saying something. Oh, good. Maybe people are waking up a little bit more.

Maybe. You know, like, because she made a comment somewhere, and she was sitting on a panel because she was sitting there with the little microphone and her name in front of her. And she actually said that she's been tough on, like, the border. And people just started laughing. Oh, my God. You can't make this stuff up.

It's like, I don't know if these people are delusional or what. It's like, but you are not tough on the border, madam. I mean, you're welcome to your point of view if you want open borders. but this is where people really start, you know, jumping into that dimension B. Maybe she wants people to think now that she's been tough on the borders and the AI. Well, she said she was tough on the borders.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just literal insanity. And people always complain when they're hearing this kind of stuff. And they're like, like you just said, you lean right wing. It's like I lean right wing. But I will tell you that the Republicans are not

perfect and there are things that are going wrong and it doesn't affect the ability to understand the crap that you're being fed. Yeah. And if I could find it, I would bring you all of the right wing dribble that is meeting the level of the left. But I can't. So, I mean, I will challenge any of those people that are like, oh, no, all of these, everybody all do.

The right wing does the same thing. Well, send in those clips. I would love to see them. are the equivalent of, you know, Donald Trump can't even make a complete sentence. And they cut to the video of the guy like doing Shakespeare. And it's like, that's not the result. You might get one of those from Thune and Murkowski, but, yeah.

And I got to know what this next clip you got here is about sunscreen and the COVID-Vax. This, is this like literally second half of show kind of things? Or? I don't know. I mean, it's just, I just, again, I tripped over this one. it's uh it's uh who's that congressman you'll recognize his voice a guy's name uh he's very uh very very articulate smooth but he said hey if i just play the clip he'll hear have i been lied to as a florida man about sunscreen protecting me from cancer yes it appears we've all been lied to unfortunately

this massive study of over 470 000 people confirms it um it's very worrisome that when they compared sunscreen users to non-sonscreen users to non-sonscreen users users. The sunscreen users faced increased risks of all the major skin cancers, melanoma, squamous cell carcinoma, and basal cell carcinoma. So all of these cancers were out, but the most worrisome finding was that invasive melanoma was 300% higher risk in the sunscreen users. They accounted for skin color, time spent outdoors, and many other things, sex, age, and they still found these increased risks of the cancer. So when you use sunscreen all the time,

you're blocking your body's ability to synthesize vitamin D, which is critical for cancer defense. So you do not want to shut that off. A JAMA study just came out and found all those active ingredients in the sunscreens get into your circulation. They get into your body above FDA regulatory limits. If you really have to use it, if you'll be out in the sun for six hours, midsummer day,

you still want to use something, I would use zinc-based sunscreen, not oxybenzone, none of those hormone disrupting. Wow. Yeah, how about that? Matt Gates was interviewing this guy. And, you know, there was some companion verbiage to it, Taryn, and it said that, you know, the incidence of melanomas just skyrocketed. And it was almost unheard of back in the, you know, 1930s, 40s, whatever.

And there was further evidence they had that a lot of it is not. just linked to the dangerous gunk that might be in the stuff we spray in our faces and arms and shoulders, but it's diet-related in that all the crap that we eat, the processed foods, somehow reduces our resistance to it. And it said that people who are going more in the vein of heavy carnivores of properly raised beef, people who used to get terribly sunburned will switch to a diet of beef. I don't know if this is true, but it's the report. and go out and they'll get a color, but they won't scald and blister and peel

the way they did back when they were on the crappy diet. So they eat more steak and hamburger. This is the Texas Beef Initiative, sponsored by us. But everybody likes steak. Well, not everybody, but a lot of people do. And it makes sense that your diet would have an effect. I mean, vitamin D is one of the main things when you go to the doctor and they do the blood test.

Like, you either got enough or you don't. You got to supplement it. Yeah. But the dangerous chemicals in all of this, it's like diet soda. So you read the chemical list, you know, like, hey, you really? Just drink water. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

That stuff's so bad. I could never, ever get past the aftertaste in diet sodas. Never. The aspartame or the saccharine was the saccharine was the worst one at first. But they never taste just like, oh no, it tastes just like. regular soda, which is horrible for you as well. But you know what? The sugar is less of a problem if, well, back in the days when you actually had natural cane sugar in your soda rather than the high fructose corn syrup. They cut the corners and try to make more money on every product

that they put out there. Sure. Do they sell Mexican Coke in Chicago? Yeah. When we just to go to Costco would get the 18-pack or whatever it was, and then kind of just had to cut back because it's just so good. But in the summer, there's nothing like a bottle, glass bottle. Yeah. Of Mexican Coke, real cane sugar.

Real cane sugar. And the taste is astonishingly different than the other crap. Yes, you can tell. I mean, if you can't tell the difference, then your taste buds are dead. Yes. Yes. But that's how it is with all the real cane sugar.

sodas over the counterparts that have the high fructose corn syrup there is a different taste and your body reacts totally differently to them do you remember the stuff it came out probably 30 years ago called jolt yeah that was the best man and they said like right in the label twice the caffeine like all the bad shit was was in there drink this jolt then that's come and gone a few times somebody tried to revive it then they're back in the day when the all the computer guys were drinking balls B-A-W-L-S which is another

like totally caffeinated drinkly hey you want to stay up all night in game or code well you need some balls Oh wow Speaking of balls Oh I hope I'm praying I know you mentioned something about

WNBA and you I'm hoping you're going to cover this Yeah this story is oddly at the front of The news and it has been for the last few days and it continues to get stranger. And bigger, I think.

It does. It continues to get bigger. There were a couple of things going on. The first was Clay Travis from Outkick Sports said, well, you know, if you really want to stand by your guns that women and men are the same, well, then he had an idea. Because the WMBA has right now a lot of coaches that are coming out, including in the last day or two saying, hey, if a man identifies as a woman, he should be able to play in the WNBA. I think that is absolutely ludicrous. It's absurd. The WNBA commissioner has not spoken out in favor of Sophie Cunningham or even just in favor of basic rules. It's called the WNBA

because it's the women's basketball association there, right? If they are going to allow men to play, I think we should have an actual game, not NBA players against WNBA. WNBA players. High school boys. Let me pick a team. Well, I will put it on pay-per-view. We'll donate all the profits to tunnel the towers for wounded warriors, for the families out there that they're helping to take care of, first responders. You know Frank Siller. They do incredible work. We'll put it on pay-per-view. If the high school boys win, I will give them $10 million. If the WNBA team wins, I will give them $10 million. I think we would raise tens of millions of dollars for charity.

I'm putting my money where my mouth is. If the WNBA really doesn't believe that men are that much better than women at basketball, then the champion of the WNBA should be able to beat a bunch of high school boys will. So far they haven't responded. They always talk about how they want more money. This is more money for one basketball game than has ever been paid to win in the history of the sport. He's right. I think the highest.

payroll on a WNBA team now is $7 million for the season. Wow. And he's offering, and the people coming in to the league, this made big news when Caitlin Clark came into the league two years ago, was between 70 and 80,000. So we can round up and say 80,000. Sure. Offering $10 million to beat a high school boys basketball team,

why wouldn't these women jump at it if they thought, they had even an even chance of winning. Sure. Because he also went on to say that he has heard from countless high school coaches and are like, hey, hey, hey, look at my team. I'll bet, yeah. And this makes a very valid point that we have covered here and other places that men and women are not equal physically.

They're not? Strength makes a difference. I know. But this is how, I mean, just keeping with this little part of the story, this is how this challenge that the guy from Outkick putting out the $10 million challenge, this is how it was covered by a anchor out of Minneapolis who is an outwardly queer woman anchor, but you can figure out what her point of view might be here. Okay. One last thing tonight. The entire world of women's sports is facing the debate within its own leagues of who should get to play and who should not. And a voice that often shouts loudly in that debate is a right-leaning outlet owned by Fox News called Outkick Sports. And today its founder took to a new stunt, one that really makes no sense if Outkick is really concerned about caring about women and women's sports.

Okay, one, can anybody explain to me how that has anything to do except to show that he cares about women and women's? in sports not having to play against a larger, more powerful man? But no, no, she's going to take it the exact opposite direction and pretend, oh, no, I can't even figure out why, Larry. Hmm. So Clay Travis, he's the man behind Outkick. He announced today he's offering $10 million to the winner of a game of basketball between a high school boys team of his choosing and the WNBA defending champions,

the Las Vegas Aces. I thought to myself why. But obviously the answer is because he thinks it is so impossible for any group of women, let alone the best in the game, that they could ever beat younger and more inexperienced boys. It's a thinly veiled sexist joke. How is it a sexist joke?

What? I know. I know. What? How is this a sexist joke? It is making a valid point. And he's putting up enough money, madam. Mm-hmm.

That she's probably annoyed by that because I think she was a they there. They're putting up enough money that this would be a big payday for this team. So how is it a joke? Somebody's offering you $10 million to play high school boys. This is the championship women's team in the WNBA to play a bunch of high school boys for $10 million. How is that? Really? I don't think it's thinly veiled at all.

I think it's right out there. How is it a sexist joke? I don't think it is. Wow. Younger and more inexperienced boys. It's a thinly veiled sexist joke, revealing the actual truth of how he and his organization feel about women's sports.

It's not about caring about them. They think women's sports are a joke. No, we just think you're a joke, lady. Yeah. Well, they think women's sports, she's 50% correct, Larry, because they think women's sports is a joke once you allow men to start playing.

playing in that league. Well, there's a lot of volunteers now, aren't there? Three the last time I checked. Yeah, I've got two. This is the second one that came out. This is Royce White, former NBA first round draft pick. That's a cool first name. Royce.

It's like Rolls. He's got a brother named Rolls, I guess. Oh, earlier this week, I made the announcement. I'm transgender. I'm a woman. I identify as sometimes identifying as a woman for purposes of basketball, professional basketball. So I'll be declaring for the WMBA draft in 2027 as well.

I mean, I think I'd be unstoppable. But I'm a team first guy. You know, I'm a past first kind of player. I do the little things. You know, I led my team in all five major stat categories at Iowa State University. So I do a little bit of every, I'll do whatever the coach needs me to do. I'll do whatever the girls need me to do. I think the WMBA could come out.

and make a definitive statement about guys with a pair of balls playing in the women's association. But, you know, hey, that, that, that'd be, that'd be probably too much like, right. So, and I don't want to be discriminated against. Now, I want, I want fair treatment. I'm a black, I'm a young black, hopefully, United States Senator, that, that, like, that would like a fair chance to participate as a sometimes identifying as a transgender woman, athlete. Yeah, like the

his delivery was good on that one. Royce is cool, man. I dig that. And the latest from the WNBA, because of course they're like, oh geez, now what? Well, this is still a nuanced topic, Larry. It's nuanced.

Nuanced. Yeah. Okay. Whether it's a dude with balls or whether it's a female, for the WNBA, it is still nuanced. And this next clip here is the original guy, N.S. Cantor Freedom. He was the first one that came out.

And so I've got, I think, like the first 20 seconds or so is his statement saying he wants to play in the WNBA, followed immediately by Stephen A. Smith in his reaction. After careful consideration and review in the current eligibility guidelines, I am officially declaring myself a WMBA prospect. If simply declaring who you are is all that's required, then I meet every single rule.

requirement necessary to compete in the WMBA. So you see what Ennis Kant had to say, right? You see how much of a mess this is becoming, right? And everybody want to act like, oh my goodness, we don't want to hate on trans. We don't want to hate on trans folks. That's not what that's about. Anybody who's hating on them should be ashamed of themselves. The WNDA, the NBA and everybody else in between is absolutely right where they talk about

not violating people's civil rights and liberties, not being hateful, not engaging in hate in any way, shaped form or fashion, whether, verbally, physically, or otherwise. We all know that. But when either's cancer is pointing to is about competition. So for somebody to transition from male to female and for folks to act like it would be okay for them to participate in the WNBA is ridiculous. And when you have athletes from the WNBA saying that they're looking out for and speaking up on behalf of girls, because it would clearly be an unfair advantage to a trans athlete over people born female. What's the problem?

What's the problem? We got to have common sense. And yes, Enis cancer is going a bit too far. But he's right to do so to make a point. And Royce White, former NBA player, now a conservative pundit, he's right too because he's trying to make a point. Certain things are beyond ridiculous. And you got to call it out just to send a message.

Do you get it now? Are you sure you want to continue this subject? Are you sure you want to continue on this path? Sure you don't want to be political pawns. Fine. Then understand that the WNBA is for girls and people born female and leave it at that. And stop acting like you don't know. Otherwise, there'll be a lot more Enos cancers.

We all know y'all don't want that. Yeah, but I'm not sure they don't want that. I mean, that's the weird thing with whatever's going on at the WNBA. This is a just a really quick clip from the head. head coach of the Indiana. Before you go there, I just want to say that was, I really enjoyed listening to Stephen A. Smith there, because he was talking, not screaming.

He's hitting missed. He is, well, that was actually, that was very good. It was very good. He needs to stay that course. I'm sorry for the interruption. Mellow out that delivery rather than going the, yeah. Well, well, well, well, let me tell you, Larry, let me tell you this.

I, yeah, that's very good. You got it, man. He goes from the quiet to the loud, the quiet to the loud. he is working the crowd all the time. This is the coach of the Indiana Fever, which is the team with Sophie Cunningham and with Caitlin Clark.

And when she was asked about this particular conundrum about, well, men and women sports, her answer was maybe possibly the dumbest thing I've heard so far in this whole ordeal. What is your stance on men or athletes who test as biological male participating in women's sports. What's your personal stance? Yeah, I mean, I'm, I don't know that I would say that I'm educated enough from a scientific

standpoint. I don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer. I just don't. She is not educated enough in the scientific standpoint to understand the difference between a male and a female. Head coach, Indiana Fever. She must be friends with that Supreme Court justice. We couldn't say what a woman was.

Yes. Yeah. It's the same thing. I mean, I saw a, it was either a meme or somebody posted the other day that if somebody would have told you 10 years ago that the biggest argument going around, the country would be whether a man and what is a man and what is a woman, nobody would believe it. It's incredible. I know how we can take advantage of this, Darren. We're going to go to the WNBA, I could play. Even with one eye, I could.

You could, absolutely. I'm sure you'd do very well. But I'm thinking maybe what we need to do is propose Adam C. Curry. He is 6'5. So am I. He's a very, you are too. Yeah. And that would, I mean, imagine what we'd do suddenly, you know, this podcast guys are, they want it now.

And one of them's, you know, I mean, holy, that would be sensational. What a play. The Towers of Power coming to you right from the WNBA. Yes, yes, yes. And just to prove how deeply ingrained in identity politics that the WNBA is, the coach, which we just heard from, from the Indiana fever. There was a flagrant foul called on Sophie Cunningham, who is now getting the crap beat out of her,

just like Caitlin Clark has had. I saw that. That was infuriating, man. The foul was up to the level where the player was ejected. The Indiana fever, the coach that is on Sophie's team, the woman that got mauled, was like, well, you know, I guess it was the right call, but I don't think it was intentional.

Like, sure, sure it wasn't intentional. But the player that fouled her so hard she was ejected went immediately to social media. And do you know what she posted on social media? Tell me. White privilege. Because Sophie's white and this girl's black. This is how down the rabbit hole these folks. and the WNBA are.

And nobody ever cared about the WNBA. Let's be honest. No. Until Caitlin Clark got there. But it's a very good example of, you know, the culture war that is going on right now. Yes, yes, yes, it is. And it's hilarious to me that you have NBA guys now going,

well, I'd like to play. Well, you and Adam have to be next. They're going to let them in. I want to find out what kind of a fun that could be. But since people say, you know, we don't go after the right wingers enough. Here is a clip from Megan Kelly where I think she's being a total bitch. Caitlin Clark was directly asked to speak on it and she was cowardly. She refused to do it.

It is one thing to inject politics into your sport where they don't belong. Like Colin Kaepernack kneeling in the middle of professional football games. It's quite another when little girls are getting the shit kicked out of them in their sport. And you are the most famous woman in women's basketball. And you're directly asked as the issue rears its head in your sport and you punt on it. You won't say anything. You'd rather let the 12-year-olds handle it. F that.

Big words from Megan for trying to get in the shoes of a Kate Leroy's. Clark who is already getting the crap kicked out of her by the other women in the league. Yes. And if she doesn't want to make a statement, that's America, baby. She doesn't have to get political. No, she doesn't. You know, so to be here and be like, no, she's, you know, I just don't even understand the insanity that this is where we are now, that you have to.

I mean, I'm tired of people that are like you. Not only do you have to, like, support us or believe that we're right, but you have to now come out and publicly say something. You're getting called out. I think Megan's forgetting, you know, that this is a free country. And that this woman is getting the crap kicked out of her on a daily basis. It was a great 10, 12 minutes. Victor Davis Hansen did the other day.

Check it out on YouTube. talking about this, but he's like the identity politics and the WNBA, very interesting because it seems that it is a majority black players and also a majority lesbian. And you have Caitlin Clark and now Sophie Cunningham, who are straight white girls, that all of a sudden are the most popular people in the league and are now, even though these other players, have gone from literally the change because Caitlin Clark hitting and the amount of people that are watching the WNBA, they've gone from having to fly coach to being able to fly private.

All of their contracts have gone up. They're all making more money, but they hate her because she doesn't look like them, because she doesn't share the same, you know, sexual preference that they do. It is insane. Yeah, I'm not a regular watcher of Megan Kelly, but lately I kind of get the feeling very often. She's just doing a pot-stirring deal, you know? Maybe it was the Ozzympic.

I mean, something happened. Oh, did she Ozzypic herself too? Yeah, I think so. I mean, there was a change that was pretty quick at one point. But, I mean, that's just speculation. That is just from the producers mode, as I see, John and Adam would always say, Just strictly from a producer mode where it will comment upon the way that she looks. She's an amateur compared to Ariana Grande.

I know. The girl needs a hamburger man, I'm telling you. That girl needs professional attention. I mean, she's getting into the Karen Carpenter zone. I mean, really, that's no joke. It's sad. It is because she's got talent. She can sing.

She's got tremendous talent, yeah. I mean, you may not like her music, but she can actually sing without all of the, you know, auto tune and all of that. Sure. Very talented girl. I see these pictures like, oh my God, wow, what are you doing? How much is social media? Because they are being judged on a minute by minute basis. And you and I will read at some point some of the reviews of us doing the show. Adam was very kind. A lot of people seem to like what we're doing, but there are some that have been vicious. And for Larry and I, it's kind of like, hey, you see this one? Oh, yeah, did you see this? And it's funny but for somebody like ariana grande i mean the negativity might actually

cause a problem and you know oh no i got to i got to be i got to be perfect i got to achieve whatever the goal is in this social media with kids that do nothing but sit at home on their screens rather than going out and having conversations with their friends and not worried about what anybody outside of their little group cared about i mean that's i didn't have the ability to see that until the internet rolled around and by the time the internet rolled around I mean it really became prevalent you know I was already in my 30s so by that point you have a whole different skin on you to take the sure you know the people that are going to be haters but like it's horrible I mean I don't have kids so a lot of people like oh you shouldn't even comment but you can

see it it's dangerous it's bad very dangerous very so much so you know I think I had him at a great phrase for what do you say this or sort of like the um it wasn't chemically or so a digitally induced autism yeah and i absolutely know that for a fact because i you know back in the day in school and my kids are in school in los angeles there were several kids i knew that that the goddamn iPad was just basically stitched to the palms of their hands they never put it down and by the time these kids were five, six years old, they basically, I don't know whether they couldn't or wouldn't speak. Wow.

You know, like, yeah. Yeah, like, what are you doing? Take, rip that out of that kid's pause, you know? So, yeah, yeah, it's, it is what it is. Yes, again, parents, make your kids grow up without the technology as much as you can. Some people will be like, it's impossible one. I don't think it's impossible. You can limit it.

You can do a flip phone if you want to feel like your kid can get a whole. of you do the flip phone they don't need full access to everything at least until they're in high school and even then you want to be on top of them and understand and explain you're going to have to have those hard conversations i mean parents never want to have you know the birds of the bees it's always like oh maybe maybe i can wait i don't want to do it and they're 12 but you got to be on top of this stuff give me an etch a sketch that's the answer i used to be like that's what i had i know Oh man it's like turn one knob turn the other knob I know there's there's like at least three no agenda artist right now like action sketch that's the artwork we're gonna need could do anything but dot and I that was it yeah you can't skip you'd have to be really good to skip now you've got one more here I've got one where what is there a setup forget forget that one we'll save that for for next time mine good old Stevie Miller but I'm gonna it's it's it's no shelf life to it'll be just as good next time so well this one for anybody that's that has listened to Planet Rage,

you will recognize this horrible AI tune. He's lost as mine. He's lost to school. Now you'll find he's just a fool. Things he says are beyond belief. He's such an asshole. I'd like to congratulate President Trump on becoming the first U.S. leader to lose a war.

Iran makes a deal all right, not with Trump, but with Omar. they now jointly control the straight of Hormuz and Trump and the U.S. We can pay the effing toll. Cash only. There didn't used to be a toll. Now there's a toll.

Big L for Trump. Trump, an American president, has lost a war. I'm so tired of all the winning, so let's try all the losing. Yes, the Countdown podcast is back. Glad you noticed. 88 days of rest and recovery. Yeah, I just wanted to say 88. 88.

Yes, please. Thank you. And we have Trump losing in Iran. Abdul al-Siyadh, winning in Michigan and immediately going on the offensive, throwing punches at the Republican. The bigger picture about how Trump is making pollution and death by climate change great again, the failures of Maggie Haberman and the Times, and the Tony Fauci hearing, or the many faces of Laura Ingraham.

and you know what I mean oh on the Thursday countdown podcast wherever you podcast and the full video version me on camera for an hour I don't know if that's a great selling point now on YouTube no it's not it's not a great selling point

I am so glad you did that and what great timing on Keith's part I think in some way like we're magnetically linked we three back after almost three months because he started having a-fifist and his doctor told him that he should cut down on the anger, but I doubt he's one that can cut down on the anger.

He doesn't seem like he could. But he's a better doctor than Scott Labato does. Well, he got him before the... That's true. So it's good to hear Keith's voice again. I'm glad he's round. And let's let's let's, I want to give full credit. That composition is all Darren.

O'Neill. He's not doing the singing. No, bad AI. But man, that became an absolute classic on Planet Rage. People always wanted to hear that, Keith the Kweave. And you did several iterations, but that's the best one. That's really great. Again, we learned from no agenda. People like, and then all of a sudden you create something like that and they're like, oh, no, you got to keep playing that. Yeah. How these things happen, we'll never know. We're just glad they do. I'm going to show my subdued by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

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way too close. It was beautiful. I was throwing out so much artwork. And Adam had to get me out of the competition just so the other artist can come back and step up. And Mike Riley, a true artist. He's published books of his work. He is a cartoonist who does this thing without the AI assistance. Oh, wow. Which makes him even more impressive. If you want, if you like that and you like to find out more, just go over to Mike Riley.ll. L.O.L., which is a great domain. It is.

Now, on the last show, we had a few different things to choose from, and I'll pull this here up as well. But the one we chose came from Parker Polly, a black knight, and it was of the JCD Buzzkill Shaver, which Adam and John taught me always go with the joke and this was the perfect joke. It was.

The shaver from the story that Adam told that he would turn on JCD's microphone and you know he might be eating breakfast or he might be shaving and we're like what? Yeah. Who's shaving right before the show with an electric razor which now makes you wonder

what's inside that Heil PR40 that he was using? There has to be some trimming. There's got There's got to be some, yeah, there's got to be some trimmings in there. There is no doubt about it. Oh, I've got thunder going on loud. Just a fair warning. Oh, really?

Yeah, the area here lately, anytime it rains, it seems like the power goes out. So hopefully I won't disappear. But there were a plethora of interesting pieces. We liked Tyler Brown's Fauci in the orange jumpsuit, but that was too depressing. A little bit, but it was good. The one from comic strip blogger, which had two men and a woman in the middle and said, O'Neill Blydner and Curry. We didn't know why you made Larry a blonde woman.

Because the trans Larry, it's got to be it, right? So you can get into the WNBA now. Why not? We'll make it a threesome. Is there a women's podcasting network? I don't know. What are we trying to do the? Tyler Brown, the grim Fauci fairy tale.

I thought that was cute, but just it didn't have the oomph that the Parker Polly piece had. Yeah. Although I did like Nessworks, the Larry and Derry, because everybody's going to start. Yes, that was funny. And Skaramanga, I mean, you're getting closer with the cheesecake. When the thunder is coming through the noise gate, you know. Yeah. You know the weather's fun.

So thank you to the Parker Polly and everybody who has sent artwork in. I see there's already some interesting Mike Riley pieces. Good to have him back. Nick Ben was back. Comic strip blogger. It's like the old art crowd is back. Good old days.

Yeah. And we very much appreciate that. But we also appreciate the people that come in financially. And these are real credits. If you come in at 333, three or over, you are an executive producer, 200 or over associate executive producer. They are indeed real credits that you can use on your IMDB page. And Larry's IMDP page is very interesting as well.

God, I haven't even looked at that in years. I'll have to take a peek. You got to update it. Make sure it's all right. I never do that stuff. I just leave it to the fates. Yeah, never. I'm telling you this is, the thunder's going good here.

But we have a bunch of people to thank today. And I'll start off here with our buddy, Ron Vee, 42, coming in from Hoffman Estates, Illinois. I met him at the only meetup that I've gone to so far. Sat across from Ron. He's totally not a spook or anything like that. Totally not doing government work. Okay. Nothing to worry about whatsoever.

He says, in the morning, everyone at no agenda, Ron Vee here. And I bet either Darren O or Larry will be reading this. Sue, he's like Carmanac, too. He can, yeah. I just want to state that today. Sunday, August 9th, marks my 40 years. My wife has put up with me. Well, congratulations.

Congratulations on that, Ron. Wow. His donation is $404. Did I say that? Page not found. Page not found. That's what I thought. Yeah.

Good. Because a marriage like this can't be located anywhere else in the wild. 40 years and still not depreciated. I'm not knight or dame territory yet, but I'm circling the roundtable. Congratulations. Give us a shout out. Tell my bride, she married a legend.

Please hold down the fort and keep no agenda alive. Oh, and one more thing. Boobes. Well, Ron is the real deal, Mrs. Ron. He is the real deal. You made a good choice. 40 years ago. Congrats.

Go doubt. A hell of accomplishment there, 40 years. Yeah. Scott Vance. Fallbrook, California. The amount is 3-33. ITM, everyone. I was hit, hit him.

Hit in the mouth. Yes. Of course, hit in the mouth. Over a year ago by my friend John Buell and have been listening ever since. Please dedush me. JCD's passing hit me harder than I expected. Thank you and God bless you all.

Thank you, Scott. You've been deduished. Lady Butters coming in with 3032 from Tiverton, Rhode Island, and says to the Dvorak family, Larry, Darren, and Adam. My donation comes with a spirit of gratitude and celebration towards the people who impact our lives, including all of you. As I write this on Bitter Sweet 8-8, I think about those we lose often leave unexpected signs. antidote time. To honor Mimi, I finally ordered my own copy of Too Many Eggs. It's a great book, and you can download it, you can order it. Too Many Eggs.com, I believe. Of course. It was delivered and sat outside unprotected during a Noah's Ark level downpour. While my husband was at work and I was out of state this week, I was convinced I'd come home to a waterlogged mess inside the box, but instead the book was pristine. Probably dumb luck, but I'd like to believe John's spirit helped ensure I can enjoy Mimi's work. August is a bittersweet month for me, too.

Although the anniversary of my dad's passing comes this Thursday, I also have my 10th wedding anniversary with Sir Knives to look forward to on 827. Well, congratulations. Congratulations. She says, thanks for putting up with me for so long, my love. In our own little New England JCD Memorial meetup on the 29th, Larry, we are would be honored if you would even go over the border to little roadie for that. Oh, wow.

Otherwise, we hope to see you soon. Whether those we care about are still with us or not, we can always be thankful for them and celebrate the impact that they've had on our lives. For now, I'd just like to say thank you for reading my note. Thank you to the entire no agenda community for your courage with so much love to all Lady Butters. Well, thank you, Lady Butters. P.S. attached is the eggbook on proud display alongside our obnoxiously large dictionary in honor of my fellow word nerd JCD.

Oh, and that's where it should be. Yeah, and I got to say, I know I have the great honor of knowing Lady Butters, answer knives. I've met them both and talked with them at length at a couple of meetups. And they came all the way into Hagenham, Connecticut, where they happened from Rhode Island. And they are spectacular people. She's a complete Just a wonderful woman And Sir Knives, I think

He's a very dangerous guy I get the feeling There's more to him that he's telling He knows a lot of stuff And he's a cool dude So this is a very cool thing And if I can get over to To your neck of the woods on the 29th

That would be an honor Thank you, lady buddy Well yeah, it sounds like you don't want Sir Knives mad at you Never, no No All right, here we go Manuka Gold Hudson, Florida.

$250 from the Manuka Gold family. Enjoying the show. We're glad it kept going while Adam is on vacation because it would leave a big, empty hole in our Thursdays and Sundays. Darren and Larry, you're doing a great job, and we're so glad we found PlanetRage because of you two filling in.

That's cool, thank you. And I'm sure there are a lot of new listeners who came over from Planet Rage. We wanted to mention that at Manukagold.com, we sell specialty health and well-being products, all made from Manuka Honey that is a rare, true miracle of nature. And starting now, we're giving away free travel size of our best-selling pain relief gel,

with every purchase over $45. And no agenda listeners can still get the gift and free shipping with their 20% off code, so do not hesitate to use the code, treasure, at checkout. Yeah, the code treasure, and I will say, they offered to send a box over, to me and you, which you've just got to get them your address. And they send it out, and my wife already is like, oh, this is the best cream I've ever used. And the straight honey, I tried it, and it was the most, and again, this is going to sound like you paid advertisement, and it's not. But it was the most powerful tasting honey.

Usually, you know, you get a very just sugar sweet and then a little honey taste. Yes. This is totally the opposite. It's still sweet, but the honey punch is like 33% more than anything I've ever. Oh, I can't wait because I'm a honey freak. I always douse my tea with it every morning. I don't drink coffee much, very rarely. But, yeah, so, yeah.

And they even have a little honey thing for dogs, so unless moose has a problem with honey. I mean, the moose we know is already well taken care of, but now he'll be like, oh, yes, honey, please. Maybe he'll be nice to me for a change. I wouldn't count at it. No. Although the honey is nice. And has Madicus the second from Manassas, Virginia came in with $223.

Says, rest in peace, John, John's passing hit me harder than expected. It felt like losing a friend or perhaps an old teacher. You know, that's a good analog there because we've always. learn something from John whether we wanted to or not. He will certainly be missed. He says, Adam, thank you for all you do. Please stay on the show. Great job, Daryl and Harry.

Oh, that's a new one, Daryl and Harry. Daryl and Harry, I'll take it. Okay. I especially enjoyed Larry's disdain for commies. Good to meet your brother. Try John's ghostly. Donate. Donate.

Let's see, do I just go out and type in donate? Will that show up here? to pick up the donations, and technically this donation makes me a knight. Well, congratulations. Congrats, congrats. If it pleases the council, I shall henceforth be known as Sir has Madicus, the second knight and slave to the Lord Christ and keeper of dogs. You can also add far right white Christian nationalist. Well, thank you very much. And you've got, Donate. Karma.

Very cool. Okay, up next is Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois. He donated 208.09, and Eli says JCD's memorial yesterday marks the end of an era. A true legend, a writer, podcaster, and modern day philosopher. For over a decade since discovering the show, no agenda has kept me company. Through the ups, the downs, and only. events of my life, I am truly thankful for JCD and how he's enriched it. But what John and Adam have created is bigger than just them. Because of this podcast, I've made friendships and connections with

members of this community. John's legacy lives on, and the torches carry forth by Larry and Darren, the boys over at the Millennial Media Offensive, Nick the Rat, and many others inspired by the No Agenda Show. I'll continue to support this show. The value it's brought me is immeasured For producers who want a great cup of coffee, visit gigawatt coffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. That's gigawatt coffeeroasters.com. Code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

P.S. Happy third birthday to my son, Ethan, today. Happy birthday, Ethan. Yeah, definitely. And you've got to look at the first. farmer's market schedule a gigawatt coffee and go meet Eli because he loves coffee so much even if you don't it gets contagious I'd love watching the people walking by and Eli's like what do you want light medium or dark and they're like what and then all of a sudden they're like we need

some of that got to get some thank you Eli I think we missed era der der derarian who came in with $210 and 60 cents and I had to know thanks guys you are doing an excellent job but we appreciate that And then we also had Linda Lupatkin coming in with $200. She's from Castle Rock, Colorado. And she says, your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression. Well, if it's not good, then you need some help. That's for damn sure. Most don't.

For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersink.com. Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience. So employers see their value. that's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. And I want to know how AI is affecting that at this point. Yeah, that's a great question. Yes.

Because I hear now it's like AI is what's being used in order to even get your resume to people. So I'm sure Linda's on top of it. I go to ImageMakersink.com now. Jobs. Jobs. I'll find the right one eventually, Linda. That was pretty good. That wasn't bad.

Doug Andrews of Sykesville, Maryland, donated $200. No note, but thank you very much, Doug Andrews. And Eric Melaidey coming in from Nepin, Ontario, Canada 146, 27, and says 88, 88 for JCD and Mimi's anniversary, 50 for Darren and Lerner. Larry plus fees. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate the shows and would like no agenda to continue in whatever form it becomes the candidness of John was refreshing, praying for everyone in the NA community. Yeah. I mean, John was as authentic as they come. Thank you, Eric. Very nice. Harry Pilgrim. We know Harry 105.35. Harry said, thank you for keeping the fire burning while

Adam and the family take some time to grieve John. Thank you for your courage and rage on. Well, we thank you, Harry. Also, Zadok Brown, we've seen that name more than a few times, 105, 35. And he says Ray John paired with Adam was a fantastic show. Well, you're very kind. Thank you, sir. We hope you hear more of that in the future.

Indeed. Christopher Ebert of Spartanburg, South Carolina, donated 105.35, no note, but thank you, Christopher. Armando Marz Altorff, I believe, from the Zotermir, Netherlands, again, I'm butchering that. 105.35 says RIP, JCD, never expected to cry during show 1880, had a lump in my throat, although sadly I'd never had the chance to know him.

It felt like he was family. my deepest condolences and strength to everyone who held him dear with kind regards. Armando Meres Altorff and from the Netherlands. Thank you. Jennifer Rain of Snoqualmie, Washington. $100.88. Jennifer says, happy anniversary, Mimi and John. Love to the Dvorick family, the Curry's, and all-no-agenda nation. Thank you to Darren and Larry for stepping up to keep this show.

going. Well, thank you, Jennifer. Don Richards coming in with $100 from Franklin, Virginia. No note, and I just love the name. And thank you. On the next one, Sir Evil Larry. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I like this. I have a doppelganger.

Uh-huh. Coming with $100 from Thompson Station, Tennessee and says, to 38 years, Sir Evil Larry. All right. Thank you. Keith R. Johnson of Arlington, New York, donated $100 and says Darren and Larry, thank you for filling in and giving Adam a break. You guys did great.

Happy anniversary. Mimi, our thoughts are with you and your family. Baron Patrick of the Pugner Order coming in next from Carnation, Washington. That is 9364 and says JCD ghost busting note. We got to keep Mimi unhaunted. Baron Patrick of the Pugner Order. P.S. Meetup Report. JCD remembered at the Snow Quallum Chalami Valley.

Oh, man. JCD met me. We'll have that in the Meetup Report. The quote of the event. It's a scam. It's official. We miss JCD. We all do thank you, Baron Patrick.

David Arianez. I hope I got that right. Of Escondido, California. $93. 64 cents and David says 88, 88 plus fees. Happy anniversary in our hearts to John and Mimi. Also, my dad's day today. And 88 is in our family too.

Thank you, David. Next up, Sir Eric, and Van Nuys, California coming in with 93-64. And it's happy faces and then sad faces and says, Raven in Reseda is so sad too. Sir Eric Barron of the Valley. Marina Marada of Richmond, Illinois, $93.64, says four more years would have never been enough. The grief is much bigger than I anticipated, sending all my love and prayers to get monation, but especially to Adam, Mimi, and the kids.

RIP, JCD, love you, mean it. Next up, Rob Van Dyke, coming to with 9364, And a short note, JCD would have loved that just as, thanks, dudes. Thank you. John Scott of Oakhurst, California, 9364. No note. Thank you, John. Dame Elizabeth coming in with 9364 from Poughkeepsie, New York,

and says, with love, Dame Elizabeth of the Hudson Valley, and we thank you. Joshua Hines of Elserrido, California, 9364. Joshua says, Mimi, Jay, and everyone else, I'm sorry for your loss. I live in El Cerrito, and every time John mentioned a local place, I always knew exactly where and what he was talking about. Well, that's the danger there when you start talking. Yes, of course. That's why it's always move around a lot. That way you can tell stories and people can't find you.

Correct. Kristen handling up next with $93 and 64 and says, on this very special, in honor and memory of JCD, I humbly submit, rest in peace, good man, you are missed. Well, thank you very much. David West of Marysville, Washington, 9364. No note. We thank you, David. Camaria Staunton up next from Riviera Beach, Florida, 9364.

Rest in peace, John, like many, the news of your passing was a shock, and I cried for someone. I never met. Your insight and knowledge will be missed. My condolences to the Dvorax, Curry's Andrew Horowitz, and No Agenda Nation. I've been listening to No Agenda since 2020 when Adam was on Joe Rogan. Oh, Joe Rogan donation. It took a few episodes to get into the flow of the show, but I've been hooked ever since. I've donated two times, but have not been deduished. Well, you've been deduced. says thank you, Darren and Larry, for stepping in. Your media deconstruction is insightful.

And he spelled it with an S. Because Benrose pointed out the other day that insightful and insightful, both sound exactly the same. That's true they do. This one's from Dennis Hahn of Menominee Falls, Wisconsin, 9364. In 2022, I made my first donation of 88 in honor of JCD's anniversary and my two daughters birthdays on August 7th and 8th and 9th, rather, respectively. It seems appropriate to complete my knighthood by bookending it with another 8888, including fees. I began listening to No Agenda shortly before the 2020 election in the midst of the Wuhan pandemic. Since then, I haven't

missed a show. I've also made some great friends via several No Agenda meetups. When I began listening, John would always star off the show with the Zephyr report, which just happened to be my high school mascot. Therefore, please knight me as Sir Zephyr of the Valley, defender of the lands of beer and cows. Also, please add my daughters, Alison Hahn, who turned 24 on 87, and Sarah Engle, who turns 28 today, 8.9, to the birthday list. Happy birthday to the best daughters a father could ask for. Finally, all my love and prayers to the Dvorak and Curry families in the time of grief, the Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed

in spirit. Psalm 34 18. Richard J. Lindquist up next 93-64 from Sequeam is at Washington? As a husband of many years, I understand, a little perhaps, something of your loss

and send my sincere condolences. I am still in shock and in pain. Best to you from Sequeam. Thank you, Richard. Martin McEnachan. of Mount Laurel, New Jersey, 9364. No note. We thank you, Martin.

And we have Sir Baron Gust Cadever Ph.D. with 9306 and says, well done, both. Sir Baron Gust Cadever PhD. Thank you. Thank you. Jonathan Farris of Liberal, Kansas, 8888. No note. Thank you, Jonathan.

Oh, no, Priester coming in with 8888, from the Netherlands. That's Suez, Netherlands, I believe. In the morning, no jingles, no karma, rest in peace, JCD. And thank you, oh no. Sir Tooth Ferry from Valparaiso, Indiana, 8888. Note is just from Sir Tooth Ferry. Thank you, sir.

Susan Kramer coming in from Flower Mound, Texas, 88, 88, a love to Mimi the Dvorak family, and all who were lucky enough to be loved by JCD. Well, thank you. Greg Mellon of Glenmore, Pennsylvania, 8888. Overdue note, I was on a backpacking trip when I heard the news about John. On my drive home, I listened to the show, and cried.

I haven't cried in years. John was like an uncle to me. Even though he only ever exchanged a few emails, we all loved him. Coming in next, sir, camera, Chris with 8888. He says, okay, so first PayPal is being really strange. Doesn't show that I donated. So if they're like seven payments of 8888, John got me good.

If there are none, then I really do hate PayPal. Well, it looks like there was at least one, so maybe it worked all right here. Anyways, here's my note. Barinet Baylor, aka Sir, Camera, Chris, Grafton, Wisconsin, and birthday shout out to myself. For Monday the 10th, I'll be 33 plus 8. Seems fitting. Mimi, you and the kids have been

and will continue to be in my prayers. You as well as Adam. Love and light John, we sure as hell miss you. Thank you for your courage, sir, camera, Kristen. Thank you, sir. Is this a second from Zadai Brown? It looks like it. It looks like it.

You said that right, the first. Mechowowalow. Is that right? Macawau. Macawa, I don't know. It's Hawaii. It's like a layback dude surfing. Yeah, well, it's 8888 and no note, and we thank you again, Zadok.

Coming in next, Stacey, String from Fondi, Fondulac, Wisconsin, coming in with 88, 88, thank you very much, Stacy. Dame Nikki Ray of Tulane, Oregon, 8888. She says, Miss you, JCD, love Dame Nikki Ray. Thank you, Dan. Nicky. Then saw Kevin McLaughlin, all we know him, comes in from Concord, North Carolina with 8888. It's the boob donation. He says, God bless Laos deo. Thank you, sir. Gina Moli donated 8888 from Parts Unknown, and she said for JCD, his family, and thank you, Adam, Larry, and Darren for keeping the show going.

Jobs Karma for my beautiful daughter. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Actually, what we need is. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. One of those. It's a jobs crime. I thought there would just be a regular one.

I'm probably missing it. Don't. Don't blame the one-eyed podcaster. I like them both. That was definitely Hillary, the first one. Do we know who the second voice is? I think Janet Yellen. Okay.

There is so much. history and the jingles of the, it's hard to even tell here. So where was I now on, Sir Becoming Heroic, I think? From Sherrillville, Indiana, Sir Becoming Heroic, 838, 38, and says, 0808, 38 years, Sir becoming heroic. And, of course, in reference to John and Mimi's anniversary. Dame Tony Helft. of Oklahoma City, 88.37. Happy birthday to Sir B

with a Y of the Flying Chickens. You are a great son and father. Love Mom from Dame Tony Helft. And Dave Foucazoto coming in with 85, 14, from Gladstone, Missouri. And the note is just an emoji heart. Thank you, David. Nice.

This is from Scott and Denise of Gallatin, Tennessee, 80.09, Adam, Mimi, and family heavily heavy-hearted doesn't begin to describe our feelings when we heard the news. So many memories shared with all of you, too. We've chosen to make a donation of $76 because it took the two of you to celebrate 38 years. Miss him, Scott and Denise. Thank you. And let's see. The next one is Kevin McLaughlin?

I thought we did. 808. God bless America and boobs. Another Kevin McLaughlin. Now, see, now you're really stumping the one-eyed podcaster. Thank you very much. Like, didn't I do this? Oh, no.

Concord, North Carolina, had to get the boobs donation in. It is very much appreciated. Kevin, thank you. And again, God bless America and boobs, Laus Deo. And I took Latin in high school for two years. And, I mean, I couldn't really say more than a few words. I can conjugate. Sum as S. S.

Sumis est as Sons. That's like all I can remember. Good. I'm impressed. From Latin. You could almost be a priest. Yeah, except for a few of those other issues. Yeah, a few of us. Christian Bowers, 78.77.

Thank you, Larry and Darren, eternally ITM, JCD. Well, thank you, Christian. Then Les Tarkowski coming from Kingman, Arizona, right off of Route 66, with a 6-06 donation. Is that a coincidence? I'm thinking maybe not. I love that town, Kingman. Been there a bunch of times.

Always fun. Leafy Learn of Togo Cho Aichi, Japan. Wow. I've been listening since 2010's first donation. D-Dooch me. Tom Young Coach donating to keep the show going. Want balance in your life? Just say ITM.

And the URL is T-A-M-Yoncoach.com. slash booking. You've been deduished. Then Catherine Morton came in with 5555. Thank you very much.

Tim Heasel donated 54.3. Thank you for your service. 51.50 plus fees. Thanks, Tim. Oh, the next on the list is getting cooked with Craig. Craig Noseley from

Cumberland, BC, Canada. way up there in Kenuckistan came in with 5430 says love you guys no homo I just finished episode 33 tonight yes he is going back and listening to no agenda from

episode one by the time you get all the way to where we are now will probably be 90 years old Craig the night of nights I shit you not I wonder if the memorial was recorded pretty sure JCD would have wanted to monetize

I don't think so, but I mean, you can always donate in his memory, everybody out there, and just imagine what the memorial. And there is going to be a public memorial, so maybe that one will be live streamed or something. I don't know. Craig is a cool guy, and very handy. He built one of the coolest-looking or hottest-looking pizza ovens I've ever seen. I know he has some, like, Canadian name for it, a cob oven, whatever. It looks like a pizza oven of me, and congratulations.

Very nice. And it is, and it's every time he shows food, I'm like, how long does it take us to get from Shirek to there? Exactly. It always looks great. Always does. Ian McAfee, Ian McAfee, excuse me, from Gabriola Island, British Columbia, BC, yeah, BC Canada, of course. 5388, no note. Thank you, Ian.

Then Brittany Miller from Trinidad, Colorado coming in with 5272. Thank you. Gregory Caligari from Parts Unknown donated 5272 no note thank you Gregory then Maria Self from Rancho Cordova California 52 72 thank you Kalori Carl Crooks of Thornberry Victoria Australia 52 72 this is a late morning donation for JCD R-I-P-R-IP. Episode 1888 was deeply touching

and devastating at the same time, I cried many times. Sending love to the No Agenda family and Mimi on her wedding anniversary from Melbourne, Australia. Then we have Justin Edelman from Northampton, Pennsylvania, 5272.

I love in each and every one of you so much. Goodbye, John. Thank you for your courage. DMT and astral travel Rebelizer out Joshua Hoover Las Vegas Nevada 5272-72

note is just praying for Mimi the kids and Adam Thank you Joshua Then bad idea supply I like that Well we got plenty of those Wait you can make a business of bad oh dude Let's do it

Came in with $50 and 50 cents Great name for a company thank you Yes, Roderick Brown of Mermaid P.E. Ken, okay, what's P.E. Canada, Darren, help me out. Prince Edward Island, perhaps? Prince Edward Island, maybe that's a, yeah, thank you. And no note, but cool name, Roderick Brown, thank you. Then Stephen Shoemaker, just Shoemake, sorry, no R at the end. Zinia, Ohio, $50. Thank you very much.

Daniel Niwong of Borahange Boy, you're going to help me on this one too Where can that be Boranj? I don't know. When the country is SE Sweden, but when the letters change Into like non-normal then Yeah, that's

We need Adam for this one. We need a pronunciation guide in the note Because Well, we'll just say thank you very much, Daniel. We'll figure out where you are next time. Yes, we want to thank each and every one of you for donating to the best damn podcast in the universe as we try to keep the wheels on it, moving in the forward direction. Give Adam a little bit of a lesser workload, but we hope he pops in more than not because we have fun. It's like the, you know, like when you come into school for the substitute teacher and you can just, oh, we don't have to talk about work for a minute.

it. We can have a little bit of fun. If you want to hear more of that, let us know. Just go over to noagenda donations.com. And then if you get to $1,000, you two get to join the roundtable. And I let's see. No, where's the, uh, there we go. We do have one nighting today. And they need to get our swords out here. All right. He has me. Madicus the second, please step up to the podium. We'd like to thank you for your support of the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000 or more, and I'm very proud to pronunciate the Sir Has Madicus the second knight and slave to the Lord Christ, the keeper of dogs, far right white Christian nationalist.

For you, we have the usual hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, mutton and me, ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits in bourbon, Irish whiskeys and Chicago dogs. I mean, it's really a buffet at this point. Just go over to noagenda rings.com. That's where you will find the handsome no agenda night ring. Send your size in and your address, and they'll get that ring out to you along with some sealing wax,

a certificate of authenticity, so you can use it on all of your correspondence. And thank you for supporting the best damn podcast in the universe and becoming a night of the roundtable. No title changes today. We do have some birthdays. Eli the coffee guy wishes his son. Ethan, a very happy birthday.

He is turning three today. Happy birthday to Sir, Camera, Chris, and Dame Tony Health House wishes, sir, be with a Y of the flying chickens. A very happy birthday. Yeah, where some of those names come from, I don't even want to know. I don't know, but they're cool.

We dig them. Yes, they are. And now we have some meetup reports. Well, we have plenty of meetup reports. No agenda. All right, let me get the audio. We have got 10 meetups. The JCD Memorial Meetups were plentiful,

which is beautiful and all of the folks that sent in the meetup reports. I'm expecting a lot more on Thursday. There were a few that were worried about the audio. Never worry about the audio. It is about the spirit of the thing. And first we have the Kela Puyah

Brewing in Albany, Oregon. And they said it was a great crowd. The tone was somber, but they still had a great time discussing our favorite memories of JCD that, uh, from Sir M. Madson of the Mid Valley. This is Sir M. Mad Son of the Mid Valley coming to you from the Albany, Oregon meetup at Calapuya Brewing. It was a great time had by all. So pass me on the phone. ITM and we miss you, John. In the morning, JCD RIP. Hey, this is Libby. We came all the way from Coos Bay, which is about three

hours away for this meetup. Thank you to Sir M for putting it on and Dame Drea for encouraging him to put it on and this has been a really awesome meetup. John and Pat at the meetup honoring JCD love to you Mamie. Hey this is Sir Victor Baron of the Willow McValley. I think we have about 16 people here in Albany, Oregon. In the morning, this is Sir David Atama. It's my first meetup, and it's going great. Hopefully, no agenda continues for a long time. Sir George Roosevelt here, this is my first meetup, too.

Not exactly the reason why I wanted to attend a meetup, but glad it came. In the morning. Oh, ITM, it's Betty. In the morning, this is Jeff. In the morning, RIP, JCD. In the morning, we had a great. meet up and we will miss you John and Adam we love you. All right in the morning. John, you're going to be missed by all of us. Thank you so much for everything and thanks to the

Dvorak family for sharing it with us for so long in the morning. RIPJCD in the morning. Oh that's nice. Then up next on the list the local 512 meetup put together by Sir Scott, the Black Viscount of the No Agenda Armory, said there were close to 40 people. He clipped it as tight as he could, but it's a bit long. That's okay. He says, wish that Adam and Tina were here. Please give my love and prayers to the Dvorak family. And here's what that one sounds like. This is Viscount Scott of the Armory. Doing our NICD Memorial meetup in Sunset Valley, Texas. We miss you, John. Hey, this is Sir Matt Wells, Black Knight of the Austin Petty Cabbies.

Coming to you from the JCD Memorial Meetup at Docks in Sunset Valley, Texas. And just want to remind everybody to stay safe and paint your roof blue. In the morning, Baron of South Austin here, all my financial assets are frozen until I can get a Zephyr report. Hey, it's Mike from the D.C. spook. Or that's what John C. DeVore called me. And I just want to say, you miss John. Adam, um, maybe the Dvorah Clan, where you feel your loss. This is Dirty Dirty Hore. Y'all be good.

This is Baron Ducks, RIP, ITM, JCD. Pour one out for JCD. All aboard. Love you, JCD. Can't wait to meet you up in heaven. In the morning, this is Michael. The show will never be the same without John. Sean Ryan from Valenti in the morning to you. Miss JCD, he was my pessimistic critical thinking mentor.

In the world of touch screens and iPhones, John was right about the mouse. Hey, it's there Brian with an eye. Just want to let you know that NewsGard reduced the score of the New York Times for their credibility after I told them about John's birthday. In the morning. In the morning, get my nation's,

Dame G Money here, driving in from mineral wells Wells to get that good old-fashioned get no nation connection. Hello, my name is Shoshana. I'm here with Dame G. I went to college with her at four, but I'm having a blast. Go ahead.

This is Keani. I'm gonna get to meet up. And this is Aaron here in Austin. We got our two human resources, and we're happy to be here. Happy to be here in the morning. Hey, this is Baron Alex Zavala out of Kylie, Texas, R.P. John. In the morning, Andrew from my

Austin not a douchebag first time meet up though hey this is Brendan from local 512 saying in the morning sorry about your friend Adam long live the Buzzkill from Black Dame local so in the morning no generation we are at the meetup for Bus kills Memorial at Sunset Valley even though he has gone to the Shays lounge in the sky will continue to live his legacy I'm Priscilla. I'm Vegas wife and we wish all the families the best of luck and we always have our prayers. And kids, please say... Sir, we're in the morning.

Hey! In the morning. This is Cameron. This is Whitney from Docs in Texas. I got ants in my pants. My name is Serenity now. It's been great. Got a lot of people. I haven't seen in forever. Had a great time. Hey, this is Kristen in the morning. I miss you, JCD. Thanks Adam for everything. Love you guys. Thoughts and prayers are with you, Mimi, and family from Dane Jeanette of the Lone Star Sky.

This is Rob, your constitutional lawyer, John Viacondillos, Adam, everybody has your back. Bear Gordon Walton here. Forty-five years of CCD was not enough for me. See you in the afterlife, JCD. All right, got you, man. My name is Wes and Murkoski. a bartender at docs and taking care of the No Agenda Group. Seemed like some good guys. Taking care of me, four group people to meet, man. R-P, J-CD,

God, right. Man, I think if we can do whatever do a meetup, it should be in Texas. Definitely. They've got the spirit big time. They're having way too much fun. Yeah. I liked a lot of names that I recognize in there.

Thanks for recording that things for sending that in, and thanks for paying tribute to JCD. Up next is the Memphis JCD tribute meetup that was put together by Commodore Tech Guy Ty. In the morning, no agenda nation. This is Commodore Tech Guy Thai at High Cotton Brewing. We're at the Memphis JCD Memorial Meetup. In the morning, Sir 9, forever grateful for the recalibration of my BS detector from John C. Dvorak. Memory Eternal.

With deepest sympathies in the morning for Miles. Nick here, love you guys. I love my truck and I love what I do. Sir Maggot, having a hard time following that up. Love you guys. Dame Shell sending love and light to all of you. Thank you for your courage, JCD. We are morning in the morning.

Thank you so much, JCD. You are not forgotten. Here, sir, no, please. Thank you for all of that you've done JCD, long-lived JCD in the morning. Yeah, a lot of closure going on all around the world. Definitely. Including up next year, we have the Perth. No Agenda producers, JCD tribute meetup.

They say our sincere condolences for John's passing. Our meetup was a mix of celebrating John's life with fond memories and laughs as well as a somber tribute to a man. We all respected and admired. Stay strong, brother. The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed. in spirit and they included a photo and two of the guys wearing the photo of JCD that giving the salute with big text on the top that's it it's a scam I love it no agenda shop you need to make those those were cool yes oh J.C in the morning we're really going to miss you you're

the uncle that I never had thank you for the wisdom thank you for the guidance thank you for the many, many stories. We're going to miss your brother. And to Adam and the family, all the best, and we're all going to support you. No agenda through and through. Take care. It's the greatest scam in the universe. As good as you, the war act. The world is the worst place without you in it. May the slaves aspire to your greatness. Come on, mate, come back to us, John. It's all a scam. You were right. In the morning. Thanks, Adam, JCD. In the morning this is Sir Richard the lands down under Mimi, Adam and family. Love is lit. This is bullcrap.

In the morning for John C. Devorak. What a legend. Here we are in Fremantle, Western Australia on a cold, wet day. In the morning. In the morning, very much sad about the times that we're in. J.C.D. picked a good time to exit. and commission services to Adam and families and Mimi and families and yeah made the show go on in some format in the morning in the morning Mimi we're so sorry for you and your family and the loss of JCD must be so hard for you right now but Adam we feel for you too we're here celebrating JCD's life with a great group of in the morning people and we love you and in the morning from Australia in the morning

morning, this is producer Van Geli. I just want to say, in memory of John, captain, my captain, let us through different ways of thinking. You've led us through difficult times, and we have all the fondest of memories. And this meetup is in special dedication. So everything that you've done,

you've left the world a much better place. You're not wrong about that. Those Aussies, they're cool, man. They know what to party. too, just like Texas. They do, yeah. Next up, Hamilton, Ontario, the JCD Tribute meetup. Three of us had a small but very enjoyable meetup at the Fool and Flagin Pub in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada attaches the audio.

A big thank you to Sir Dwight the Knight for organizing it, and it was sent in by Sir Chris. In the morning, this is Sir Dwight the Knight at the Hamilton Memorial for JCD meetup. And we all miss you, John. Everybody saved strong and thank you for your courage. I'm going to pass the phone around now. In the morning, this is Canneal from Hamilton, Ontario meetup. And I'm going to miss John and I'm going to miss his humor and wit. And yeah, I will remember you as long as we listen to this show.

And finally, this is Sir Chris, also Hamilton, Ontario. Rest in Power, JCD, thank you for your courage. And just one final question. Is this going to delay the vinegar book? It's being rolled into another Dvorak family cookbook, from what I understand. That's cool. I didn't know that. What I heard correctly during one of those of the tribute shows,

if anybody hasn't gotten through the longer of the tribute shows, they are well worth it, just break them up, a lot of great stories, a lot of great information. And yeah, the vinegar book was real. It was just, I think it was Mimi, that said it was more of a pamphlet than a book. I heard that. I remember her saying that, yeah.

It's like it makes sense. I mean, it's vinegar. Go to get too many eggs. Too many eggs.com. Start there and then move on. The next one is Wilmington, Delaware, remembering JCD meetup. It says, hi, Adam. This is our meetup report for remembering JCD from Wilmington, Delaware.

Thank you for everything you do. You are an angel. We're here for the meetup at Delaware Park. in Wilmington Delaware. My name's Josh. Checking in. Amy, checking in. Sarcastic Nomad.

Love you, mean it, no homo. Ed from down in town, RIP, JCD, and thanks for a good run to Mooncash. Yes. Yeah, definitely a good run. Nobody can argue that. Up next to the Sonoma Wino-County meetup, which I like the 10.0.

I don't know if that just keeps like Windows. Windows 10, is that what that's like? Probably, yeah. In the morning, Adam, Sir Zolbat made a little hiccup on his. Oh, we got, I took care of that. I did the editing, so you don't have to. Oh, wow. Let's see, thank you for your courage.

Sir recalcitrant, Crazy Steve the Second. In the morning, this is Sir Recalcitrant, Crazy Steve the Second, here at Sonoma County Meetup 10.0, reminiscent about JCD. This is Sir Reischmeister. We love you, John. We all miss you. This is a dude named Ben, named Ben, Duke of San Francisco. John, you will be missed. It won't be the same without you. And there won't be as much laughter on Sundays, that's for sure. Good afternoon. Tim Freeman, not a knight, not a douche, Plasterville, California. R-IP, John.

Sir Zulbat here. And we hope that we're, uh, we're, uh, we're, We're right back where we started at the meetup. First place we ever met up here in Sonoma County. We just hope that John C. Dvorak understands how much we loved him. Sir Robertson of two sticks here. Thanks for the memories, John. It was a pleasure to meet you on several occasions. Lydia of the Shire here on 888, the perfect day to send love and light to J.C.

Rest in peace, JCD. Very nicely done. Really, yes. Then we have the Denver Love It. Love is lit JCD Memorial Meetup. Says, in the morning podfather, kind of edited, sorry about the background noise, Sir Bita, Vito. Sir Vito.

I need some Vino to be able to say Sir Vito. And never worry about the background. There's nothing you can do. when you go into a bar or wherever you're meeting. And if there's music, it doesn't matter. Hey, folks, live out here in Denver City Park. Got the love is lit for JCD Memorial Meetup. We're going to pass the phone around.

This is Elise. We're missing the Colorado Carabare and Jim tonight. And we will miss you forever, JCD. This is Brian, also known as Sir Soothsayer. John, I'm going to miss you. I will for always remember you as the guy who always screamed, I get no spam. This is Colin. Missing you, John, and Club 33 and your squeaky chair in the morning.

This is Sir European Stephen. As my neighbor is calling me, Stephen. It's actually Stefan. But, yeah, ITM. Thank you, John, for your courage. This is very gringo. You're an inspiration for anybody who wants to get into entertainment. keep it up god bless

sir scott pouring one out to john myself and so many others from being a part of the six week cycle jcd i love you change my life stay safe in the next round and yeah he wasn't entertainer above beyond yeah comedic timing had the wit i would have gone to see jcd do stand up that would have been

that would have been trippy very different style or you think it'd be like bobby sladen you know just do the... No, I'm thinking him like Stephen Wright. More like that. Yeah, mixed with Miller maybe, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Up next, the Sonomish, snow-homish Washington JCD Memorial Meetup. This tried to take out the silent. Oh, it's a little more gay. Thank you. No worry. Everybody's worried about the silence or the background noise. We just want to hear what was going on

and how much fun you were having, reminiscing about the late great JCD. In the morning, this is Horryer news, reaching out from this in Homish meeting that our wonderful Dame hosted, which is awesome. Thank you so much. And I'll pass the phone down. John, thanks for a lot of great years. I wasn't around for a lot of them, but the few of them that I was around for, were definitely great. Adam, keep going. We appreciate you, man. And just Adam, Philippians 313, that's Philippians 313. And for John, some of the, some of the clips I'm going to, for the clips I'm going to remember are the, when he's really stoned, hey, man. and also when he went to Mark Levin You know and either way, cheers Appreciate it

All right, ITM everybody I miss you John This is Joe and San Homish Thanks Sir Bemrose here They finally got me out of the house Whoa whoa whoa Whoa

Bemrose left the house Can you imagine that You gotta play this again I gotta back this up I did not know you had a Sir Bemrose Siding at this meetup Wow And he he was

very much like JCD's illegitimate child. I'm telling you. He was very much like JCD in a lot of ways. So, Homish, thanks. Sir Bemrose here, they finally got me out of the house. So this is me podcasting into some dude's phone. ITM.

Teresa from Sycamish, we'll miss you, John. Good luck and Godspeed, JCD, raise a glass of Kirkland, Bordeaux, and you get there for all of us. Sir Jack Ash here, the Narcissive Sasquatch. Just remembering JCD on 8-28, 26.

Appreciate you. Appreciate everything you did. And yeah, Godspeed. This is Savannah Hernandez. We're wrapping up the meetup. And we appreciate everything you guys do. And we're happy to meet everybody here in Somish. Yeah, that sounds like a good time.

It certainly does. And last but certainly not least on the meetups for this show, Central Jersey meetup on 8-8-2026. ITM with the U. We had another great meetup honoring JCD. The amazing thing is how everyone is so impacted by this loss. Darren and Larry are doing a great job. Well, thank you.

John can never be replaced. We agree. It was great hearing Adam's voice on Thursday show. Thank you for your courage, still devastated, Sir R. Daniels, Viscount, slash Commodore. This is Sir R. Daniels with pronouns Viscount and Commodore coming at you from the 3BR distillery in Keyport, New Jersey, where we are certainly in the morning with a U. This is Dave, RIP to the best part of Twit. Thank you for giving us the courage to think. This is Bart, RIP, JCD, and this is from New Jersey where we've had rigged elections for decades.

This is Brian. John, we'll miss you, buddy. This is Jay, Missing John C. DeWark already in the morning. This is M.K. Ultramarach, checking in from the central New Jersey meetup, and we are morning in the morning. This is Sir Nobody. Morning John and still confused that people have showed up at my bar to drink with it. In the morning, this is Damesh fine. We're hydrating at 3B.R.

And just remembering John, and I'll never be able to do fist nuts again without, thinking of John C. Hi, this is Alex. Thank you all for coming to my distillery. Hey, this is Sir VoIP at the Jersey Shore. I lost two great voices in my life this year, John Sterling of the New York Yankees, and now JCD. RIP, JCD.

Man, what an amazing bunch of meetup reports. Really? We know we'll have a bunch of them on the next show because there were a lot of the 8-8 meetup reports. I mean, hey, if you can edit them, that's great, but we're not judging you based upon sound quality here. No. And it's just beautiful to hear everybody remembering John.

I mean, I don't know. It's always interesting when somebody like John passes if he realized the impact that he had on people. Yeah. And he doesn't seem like he had a big ego or anything. I think he knew, but I think he might even be a little surprised by the, the massive amount of outpouring because he was everybody's, you know, uncle or father figure or somebody. It's like, I'd go to Jake CD for advice.

Sure. And of course, he always ripped my artwork on the show. And then in the emails, I would trade, he was always so complimentary. It's like, and people were, I mean, although Adam was dissing me at the time you and I start doing shows and you're like, why's Adam mad at you? It's like, it's a bit. I know. It's funny, though. I bumped the microphone. I didn't mean to do that. You're copying me.

It's the spirit of JCD. There are a bunch of meetups upcoming, including a bunch today. Let's see, we have the, in the morning, Virginia, and thank you for your courage. JCD meetup at the Gloucester, Virginia. Gloucester Brewing Company. That is a Costa.

That is. is the organizer Dame Trail Chicken. Today at 5 p.m., the WWJCDD at the Fox and Hound and Langley Township, British Columbia, organizer, not a sir, hoots a lot. I also want that t-shirt instead of the What Would Jesus Do? I want the What Would J-C-D do? That's kind of cool. Today on, there's no time.

It just says, as in the morning, J-CD, rest in power. 6 p.m. Australian Eastern Standard Time at the grape. and hop in Melbourne organizer GQ Smooths. Today at Amsterdam, JCD, Memory at 6.30 p.m. Amsterdam time, Barrest-Lelly. Organizer Sebastian, please, RSVP. And then a long list, August 14th. We have Queens, New York, Long Island, New York, Watt, Wausa. I mean, I'm right over the board.

Wadotosa. Wadotosa. I'm glad you'd do that one. I'm just, no. And then, of course, what's Tbilisi, Georgia? Tbilisi, Georgia, South Caucasus, this region, yes. And then, I mean, the easy ones. August 15th, Riverside, California, Oakland, California, Yukon, Oklahoma, on the 16th,

Dubuque, Iowa, Norwood, Massachusetts, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, Vancouver, British, Columbia, those are all on August 16th, and you can take the next few. On August 20, we've got Charlotte, North Carolina. On the 22nd, it's going to be Fort Wayne, Indiana, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Reno, Nevada, on the 23rd, Indianapolis, Indiana, Benton, Arkansas, Albuquerque, New Mexico. August 29th, we've got Rhode Island, Zurich, Switzerland. Oh, that, I want to go to that one. Yeah. August 30th, Chester Springs, Pennsylvania, and then back to the 29th for Rhode Island.

Wait, no, is that doubled Chester Springs, Nebraska? Well, there's a Chester Springs, Nebraska, and Pennsylvania listed. One of them must be right. Wow, who would think? It's got to be, it got to just be a misprint here. Chester's a popular, too. Not sure which one it is. We'll have that for you by the next show, I'm sure.

And then September 6th, Medford, Lakes, New Jersey, the 12th, in September, Boise, Idaho, the 15th, Scottsdale, Arizona. The 17th, Charlotte, North Carolina, and you can take us home. October 3, Midlands, United Kingdom. On the 10th, it's Eagle of Idaho. On the 15th, it's Charlotte, North Carolina. October 17 is Fredericksburg, Texas. Hmm.

October 24th, Smithville, Texas. October 24th, also Los Altos, California. And lastly, November 19, Charlotte, North Carolina. Wow, if you don't see a meetup on there, you can get one. Yourself started up. Just go to noagenda meetups.com. There's a Dame G money in there. It's a day, you know, connection is protection.

Adam says it a lot. It is true. And I need to get better at doing ISOs. I always forget to do the ISOs. I'm always looking for the clips and then forget to do the ISOs. But I did have a couple one. This is Mickey Rourke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

sure whatever you say boss i mean there's there's that and then a very similar vein oddly enough adam and john yep yep yep yep yep yep and then this one i know is just too self-aggrandizing darren o'neill man he just he has it he's got that magic there you go uh so i'll let larry pick that one which one do you like the most uh oh i think it's got to be yours we got it well we got to find uh john c de vorek uh crapping on your uh song that he That goes back a few years. Hey, somebody's got to find that. They got to Bing it.

They got to do it. And help it out. I mean, a couple of people have come through with some other alternatives for opening show music and all that. But we need a little refresh on some things that are very specific for John and Adam. So, you know, if you can do that for us, it is very much appreciated. That is going to do it. for another edition of the Best Damn Podcast in the Universe. According to Bemrose in the back room,

coming up after this on your mighty no agenda stream, just two good old boys again? Isn't it like twice and two shows? Interesting. I didn't know Benrose really liked Sir Gene and Sir dude named Ben, name Ben. That is a surprising. I was not aware of that.

It's an interesting show. I mean, Gene tells me, it's an interesting show. I haven't listened recently. But he says it's a very interesting show. And would Gene Lie? No. You don't go out in the limb on that one.

End of show mixes. We have some from Gary and Gilroy. We've got Perth, no agenda producers, Mike M. Piretro, Sir Chris Wilson, and CSB. So coming to you live from just outside. of Shirek right here in FEMA region number five in the morning everybody I'm Darren O'Neill and from pretentious Connecticut I'm Larry Blydner it is always going to be pretentious isn't it uh join us on Thursday and remember us at no agenda donations.com until then hooey hooy thank you for your

courage aughtyos mofos and such you know we do even have a show mix here kind of from my CSB. Howdy, Irish Americans, Darren and Larry. I would like to tell two stories about John Cid Vorat. Story number one.

Many years ago, when Vorac was working for MIVO and Adam Carey was his boss, I wanted to interview Vorac for my podcast, which was about tech. Vowak didn't want to do it, so

I contacted other Kerry and Adam Kerry told the Warach to do it and Vorak did it it was done over Skype it was fun Story number two I was chatting with Vorak over direct messages on Twitter

and Vorak told me that his mother was born in Poland and she had Polish passport and I told Vorek to get Polish citizenship which is equal to European Union citizenship with freedom of movement

to EU countries and Afstaklantis like Norway and Switzerland and Vois was angry that I suggested it and he blocked me on Twitter for several years These are two stories from me, comics through a blogger

Thank you for your service A voice that questioned every headlines claim A restless mind that never played the game with dry wit wisdom and that knowing smile you challenged easy answers all the while beyond the microphone your legacy remains in curious hearts and in depends from the perth no agenda producers we stand today attitude that won't you've taught us taking ever feels quieter and one chair is bare your humor and your insight still in the morning so anyway so i i still have an awe problem i say ah but nothing like

hillary so there's a lot of a's in there but there's so many us there's no reason to edit it although maybe i will now but i have the ringer and so i'm going to ring the bell and we'll try to keep count Ready? Yep. Well, for that kind of money, you would too. So there's this guy Patrick Seale. Then all of a sudden. Once change the news and kill Whitney Houston.

So I wonder, I'm trying to... Mimi will be reaching out to you with information about your ring. So I have a couple of Ask Adams today, which are nice features. Oh, yeah, I'd love to do an Ask Adam. Forget I even mentioned it. We don't want any of that. They're always meddling. We don't want that. So you notice that Ron Paul came in a really strong.

Thanks, Apple. Calculator. So I thought this was interesting. There's a letter that went out. Fart jokes are great. We need more fart jokes. So, I'm sorry, go ahead. Nothing to do with the Chiners. Nothing to do with, don't look over here. So we got a couple of good donations. this week. Mailchimp, mailchip, mailchip was burdened. All right, all right. I say mailchimp a lot. So, I've got a couple of clips from this David Woolman. And these drone strikes are taking place in Balochistan.

I just want you to be informed. That's all. So, yeah, you don't want to be too informed. You don't want anyone thinking about what we're doing with the government. Quick, switch the tracks. Yeah, well, that's what they do. Yeah. So I've got a clip that might lighten things up. No. Just kidding. Just kidding. So you're terrible.

I try. There's so many others. There's a lot of Oz in there. From Miami, FLA, on the state, where you can't say gay. Teaching grade schools, children are if I get him to draw her private powers. said hey babe take a walk on the child side I said hey Disney take a walk on the child side and he came to the kindergarten in the classroom showing all the kids her heart on but she never even stopped even when they called the cops she said hey

babe take a walk on the child side and said hey comma pizza take a walk on the the child side and the people of color go. Go! Desmond Joey was just sniffing away. It is at the White House who came to play. A fondle here and a touch up there, always sniffing children's hair. He said, hey babe, take a walk on the child side. I said, hey Joe, take a walk on the child side.

Sugarplum furry hit the streets. Looking for anime and some teenage weaves. Weaves gave some kid at a apartment store a whole lot more than they'd buy them for. He said, hey, babe, take a walk on the child side. I said, hey, Nickelodeon, take a walk on the child side. He's just grooming away. Be a teen for just one day. But I guess he had to get bashed.

Honeypot would have helped that smash. He said, hey, babe, take a walk on the child's side. I said, hey, CNN, they can walk on the child side, and the woodchippers go. Dvorak.org slash N. Darren O'Neill, man, he just, he has it. He's got that magic.