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It's the No Agenda Show with your hosts, Darren O'Neill and Larry Blydner.
In the morning.
It's Thursday, August 13, 2026.
This is your Gipmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1894,
and we are broadcasting live from just outside of Shirek.
Don't need a rain stick in FEMA region number five in the morning, everybody.
I am Darren O'Neill.
And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, I'm Larry Blydner,
keeping commies and creeps at bay
with my scimitar of truth.
It's Darren and Larry.
In the morning.
Yeah, thanks to Jess Baker for that intro.
I think we need maybe a little longer.
Yeah, maybe a little more underpinning for that spot.
But I like it.
The voice sounds like some cyborg from a Battlestar Galactica.
It's like it may be, did James Earl Jones do any voices for the bad?
I mean, I know he did Darth Vader, but there was...
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Might have.
busy guy. It has that vibe
to it. Yeah. I like to
invest as Thalso Doom.
Conan, yeah.
But the Podfather was very clear. Gotta get rid
of that fake and gay intro.
So we're
going to be trying out a few and Jess Baker
came in with the best. All I can say, if you can
extend that a little bit, Jess,
give us a little more music
at the end there.
Let's just reverse it, make ours
gay and fake. How about that? It's a whole new
way to go. Yeah.
But happy to be here because, again, the weather tried to take me out on Monday.
Was that Monday, Tuesday?
Yeah.
How were you to have power outages or no?
Luckily, no.
Our power stayed on.
Most of the town around us seems to be out, which is a kind of interesting.
But it all depends on which trees that didn't fall down in the earlier storms.
Sure.
Look at the draw.
Because this was a duration.
I mean, Max Velocity, it's a word I learned from him.
A duratio came down from Iowa into the Chicago area.
And basically that just means a hurricane that is inland, more or less, that type of wind, straight line winds,
rather than the swirling that you get with a tornado, although we also had a tornado.
So that started like maybe a mile from north of here and went a couple miles to the east.
And they said that was about 300 yards wide and just cut a nice sloth through.
Oh, slicer.
Three yards.
It's nothing in sky talk.
No.
It was like, whoa.
It was probably the worst sounding storm.
Because usually, you know, the things go off.
you know, bad thunderstorm, tornado, whatever it is.
Okay, you'll kind of meander downstairs if you have to.
Usually not into the basement.
This one was like, okay, going to the basement.
Now, is that Doracho, D-E-R-E-C-H-O?
Yes.
That's Spanish for right.
I don't get it.
They're coming for them.
Is it depending on, was it headed, let's see, to the east?
Is that one?
Because it would be the better word,
is queeredo.
Well, not necessarily better the left end.
thing is it's a kooky word uh-huh but it sounds i mean they but people say i mean i don't think a tornado
went right over us but it was a uh the sound of the storm was fairly interesting and luckily
the power just went off and on a few times quickly just to scare you a little flickering here
pretty much but it's been weird com ed they've had multiple storms here in illinois but i'm blaming
again the infrastructure because we all know what's going on with the infrastructure
structure. Yes, we do. And when the power goes out now, it's not, well, and I get it. These are
really big storms. That's a record I didn't want to take from Adams' home state there of Texas,
who had the most tornadoes in a season ever. Now, Illinois has that record this year.
Wow. Impressive. So finally, something. We finally got something. Besides the creepiest politicians.
I'm telling you, the bears are going to be, I think they were going to announce that today.
and part of the deal with the money
that is going to subsidize this
is changing the name.
Indiana's going to be in the name.
So Chicagoans
are not going to be very happy
with these politicians
for letting their football team go.
Sports ball.
Yeah.
But they expand their league,
or whatever, their distance.
So they went from being a city
franchise to a state franchise.
Now it's going to be the Indiana Bears.
They said Indiana was going to be
in the name. I haven't seen the...
I mean, I'm assuming that's what
it'll be. It'll probably
be closer to here, so it's kind of
nice. I mean, if you really wanted to go to see
football games, but
not usually where I'm
heading out.
Yeah.
Maybe you'll move, huh? Finally get out.
Say goodbye to Pritzker. Just move over the border
to Indiana, although their weather
has been obviously just as bad because it's walking distance from here.
Yeah.
But that's not to say, and there's not of a lot insane things going on in the world.
And we've got them all for you.
I tell you.
And the coverage here, why don't we start with the Fauci phone?
I see you've got the Senator Johnson.
And this, he was on Clay and Buck.
And I'm sure he was everywhere.
but this the information coming out now is beyond the pale as Joe Biden would say is there any setup on your clip or we can jump into
on Ron Johnson yeah no you could leap right in there sure dr. Fauci writes I asked around a bit more
and another issue came up that you need to be aware of period since many people have significant cytokine
storm and fever after the second dose, this theoretically could be associated with miscarriage
in the first trimester.
Theoretically, only just theoretically.
Theoretical, yes.
And all we heard from public officials is that this was perfectly safe for pregnancy.
Let me go on a little bit more.
In June of 2021, Tom Schiaenbuckuro, he was the man in charge of safety surveillance systems
for CDC, published a grossly miscarriage.
leading paper in the New England Journal of Medicine where they looked at 827 confirmed pregnancies.
700 of those pregnancies, the women got their COVID injection in the third trimester after 28 weeks.
Of those 827, 104 suffered a spontaneous abortion or a miscarriage.
The problem with those stats is they took the 104 divided by 827, came up for.
with a miscarriage rate of 12.6%,
which is about four times the rate
of normal miscarriage rate
on a confirmed pregnancy.
But here's what they did
that was so grossly misleading.
700 of those women got their injection
in the third trimester.
A miscarriage is,
or spontaneous abortions defined as anything
up to 20 weeks.
So the relevant denomination
should have been 140 miscarriages
divided by 127,
which puts a miscarriage rate
at 82%.
So Anthony Fauci knew
about potential cytokine
storms impacting the first trimester
in miscarriages, told
no one about it because it would create
vaccine hesitancy.
There you go.
Yeah, those are stats
that are
those are hard to ignore
when you're going up from a very small
number because you were including
all pregnancies in it to
now you're like, well, if you were just
looking at the first trimester in the
pregnant women, I'm sorry, pregnant people, right,
should have been warned that this is a dangerous thing to take within the first trimester.
Yet they were so afraid that this would cause vaccine hesitancy among everybody
that they withheld that information.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I happened to flip through something I saw, was it Netflix, whatever.
It was called Get Gotti, right?
And it was a show just about how, like, thousands of cops from many different agencies tried to nail that guy for, and I was still living in New York back then.
And he was a big personality in the news.
They called him the Teflon Don and so forth.
And finally, me, and the funny part was there was the FBI, the organized crime task course, the NYPD.
And they were so intent on getting Gotti that they were screwing each other, not giving intel.
It would have been vital to help them, you know, because they want to be the one, I got Gotti, right?
Anyway, if you think about that guy, he's running the Gambino crime family.
He did it for maybe five or six years.
And all that time, if he had a hundred guys clipped, that would be a lot, right?
Probably, probably less than that.
Maybe even 200.
But just considering that, most of them were fellow murderers and horrible criminals.
So in some way, he was maybe doing a little bit of a public service.
Right.
Okay.
Really.
But they were intent on getting this guy because they could file their nails and say, look how cool I am.
How many people did Fauci kill?
I mean, has anybody come up in the number for that with his lies and the way he misdirected everything?
But he will never do a split second in jail.
In fact, look at the old lady.
She's flipping the bird to the M5M's cameras now.
that's because he kind of knows he's impervious to prosecution.
It's really frustrating, isn't it?
Oh, yeah, he has the Biden pardon.
And it's even worse is that the people that are backing him,
this is a clip from CBS Evening News talking to Dr. Serena Chen.
And they're going to go down that this was still the right thing to do.
I know. It's insane.
To talk about this and the state of the science today,
We have Dr. Serena Chen and OBGYN and Director of Advocacy at CCRM Fertility of New Jersey.
Dr. Chen, thank you very much for joining us.
Dr. Fauci has declined to comment on these messages.
When you read them, what do you make of it?
So, no.
You're kidding.
Did he really?
I would like to take my Fifth Amendment rights to not say anything about anything about anyone.
Ever.
It's like, did you expect him to?
No, he's never going to.
And it's just really.
it's disgusting and that is the right word and I think it was the one that Senator Johnson used
because you see these comments privately discussing this but they didn't make that public it's like
I understand both sides of that story but there would have been an easy enough way to say
hey well if you're pregnant in the first 12 weeks be be very cautious but no
read them what do you make of it and there's your best journalist question right there you what do you make of
it which is when you read them what do you make of it so i see somebody who is an expert a global
expert infectious diseases looking at data and having a conversation with other expert colleagues
about what is going on he's got to make a big decision and he has to look at everything and
perfectly reasonable to look at possible concerns ultimately
though, when you look at the data, the risks and the benefits were really clear at the time.
Yeah, they were really clear at the time that if you were in your first trimester, there was an 84% chance your baby was going to die if you took the vaccine.
Yeah.
That part was clear. No, no. She's telling you, no, no. It was clear that the vaccine was more helpful. It's like, no, not to pregnant women.
At the same time, it violated conventional rules.
to pregnancy and vaccines that were in place for decades and decades, which was, you get a baby in the oven, no vaccines for you.
Just don't do it, unless it's something, you know, absolutely horrific, you know, Ebola or, you know, smallpox.
But this, let's face it, this was a powerful flu, you know, and a reasonably healthy woman could be considered to survive it.
So, very, very evil stuff.
Risks and the benefits were really clear at the time.
The reason people react to this is because there appears to be this gap.
between what's being said in private with all this uncertainty and doubt and then what's being
said in public how do you read that i think that um what he said in public ultimately obviously is the
right thing this is our recommendation today that all pregnant women i know did i hear that correctly
yes knowing everything we know now we would still stick a woman in the first trimester with an
MRNA vaccine knowing there is, what, 84% chance that the baby's not going to make it because,
you know, we believe the science.
Well, you're not listening to the science, madam.
What he said in public ultimately, obviously is the right thing.
This is our recommendation today that all pregnant women should get the COVID vaccine every
year and the flu vaccine because we still know, as he knew then, that the real.
risks of COVID are so much higher than the vaccine, even though there may have been some
concerns about fever.
Some concerns.
Some concerns about fever.
Wow.
Can we, can we be have her on as a guest, Darren?
I think we could teach her a thing or three, maybe.
Wouldn't that be fun?
If this data is correct or anywhere near correct, 84% of women having a miscarriage
and she is going to say this all comes down to,
well,
there were concerns about fever.
Yeah.
It's absolutely unbelievable
that people are still hanging
to that narrative the way that they are.
I mean,
it makes zero sense.
Somebody must be puppeteering her,
you know, Pfizer or something, whatever.
You know, this can't be,
it's just,
it's preposterous, what she's saying,
absolutely preposterous.
So there must be something else.
There's another layer here.
we're not seeing. Well, they're probably all afraid now that Donald Trump is cutting down the
amount of childhood vaccines. And that's a great thing. Yes, it is. Welcome back. The president
signing a new executive order calling for fewer vaccines for children. Annika, Kim Constantino,
has details on that EO yesterday. Morning, Annika. Morning, Carl. This is President Trump's latest move
to reshape how Americans vaccinate their children. The executive order directs the federal
government to cut the number of childhood vaccines recommended for all children from 18 to 11 and split
the MMR vaccine into three separate shots spaced out across multiple doctor's visits. And the shots
no longer recommended for all children, such as the ones for hepatitis A and B, are advised for
certain high-risk groups and a few will be based on consultation with a doctor. But it's important
to note here that this does not ban any vaccines on the market. States still set their own school
vaccination requirements and the administration says shots will stay available to families and
covered by insurance. But pediatricians still have huge concerns here. Doctors say the administration
has not provided new evidence justifying the changes and is repeating debunk claims linking
vaccines to autism. And the fear here is that this rhetoric and new guidance will confuse parents
and make some of them hold off on getting their children vaccinated. And this all comes at a time
where we're seeing record measles cases in the U.S. and declining vaccination
rates. Yeah, it's all debonged. Have you ever heard the media cover anything straight lately?
No, no. I mean, these people are awful. There we are. It's like rather than reporting the
story and saying, well, this side says this, this side says this, it's almost unbelievable.
Now, what's the subtext there? Parents are stupid. They're going to be confused. They can't
understand anything. We'll tell them what to do. You know, one of those, she didn't get mentioned
this one. I heard an ad, was it on television or the radio?
recommending now HPV, which is, you know, a sexually transmitted thing, it used to be they were
plugging it for 12-year-olds and above. Now, nine-year-old, if you get a nine-year-old kid,
how many nine-year-olds are sexually active? And what's wrong with that?
These people are demented. Nope, they're evil. They're just goddamn evil. They really are.
Well, it is. It's about having complete control.
Yeah. We've talked about it how in California, Illinois, and other places, you can't even
get your child's medical records.
No, you cannot.
Without their permission once, I don't know if it's 12, 12 years of age, they decide.
They'll decide what's right for them, not you.
Then why aren't the 12-year-olds voting?
Oh, wait, they're going to want that soon too.
Oh, yeah, that's, definitely it's coming, yes.
No doubt about it.
But listen here, this is CNBC, and just see how vehement they are about everything Donald Trump mentions is, you know, unfounded, it has been debunked.
Yeah, there was some head scratching on the fact that I don't think there was actually a medical doctor in the Oval during that announcement.
There was no medical doctor in the Oval, Larry.
The Oval, yeah.
In the Oval.
He talks like an insider in the Oval.
Right.
When do we not say Oval Office?
Yeah.
No, but there was no medical doctor in the Oval because, you know, one has to be standing, really, this is the left.
If you don't have somebody standing behind the president wearing the white coat, well, then it's not believable.
And let's not forget, they failed to mention the fact that Tony Fauci was never a practicing physician.
So how much of an expert is he really? Not much.
He's America's doctor.
Yeah, but he never, he never, like, you know, used a tongue depressor.
Well, he might have used it for something.
Maybe, yeah.
There was actually a medical doctor in the Oval during that announcement.
And then this notion from the president that some vaccines are the size of a soda bottle that kind of raise some eyebrows too.
Yeah, that's a great point to bring up, Carl.
And when I talk to pediatricians and other experts, they always reiterate the fact that there's no scientific basis or rationale for any of the changes that were made.
And a lot of the actual claims that Trump was making during his speech yesterday are, you know, really debunked here.
and there's decades of evidence
kind of supporting the opposite of that.
So a lot of what we heard yesterday, again,
there is no scientific basis there.
This has to all be Pfizer financed.
It just has to be.
Who else would profit from this?
It is amazing, really,
that this is a news report on CNBC
and they're totally ignoring the fact that
there are plenty of cases of antidotal evidence.
And I understand that is not proof.
With that said, when you're doing something like Trump is, in this case, he's taking the, what's it, measles, mumps and rubella vaccinations, which are normally given at one time.
And the recommendation now is to spread those out each by a year, where if you do them that way, there seems to be no problem, well, less problem.
with side effects. Never say no problems with side effects. No, no. When it comes to anything medical.
But why? I'm sorry. Go ahead. Why is that such a problem to the left to go, well, you know what we think may be
having these three together has caused an uptick in autism? And they're going to tap dance all the way to
the bank to try to explain why autism rates have gone through the roof. Yeah. But.
And at the same time, they're lying about the foundational evidence.
You know, they've blown measles up to be, you know, equal to Ebola or some horribly fatal ailment.
It's not, and it never was.
And they've inflated all their research.
You know, it's a complete lie.
I mean, I had measles when I was a kid.
There was no vaccine for it then.
And, you know, you got some spots on your face and you felt crappy for a couple of days and then you were good to go.
Nobody, I don't remember anybody ever getting seriously ill.
and certainly there were no deaths from measles as kids.
But now, you know what the whole thing is?
Basically, they want Americans.
If anything bothers you from a hangnail to you just kind of feel gloomy,
take a pill, get a shot.
That's the answer.
It's all in chemistry.
Really?
That's the message.
And with that, it's control.
Yes.
Because they control who gets the shot and who has access to it
or what you're going to have to pay for it.
But in this case, I don't think anybody can deny.
that for some reason autism has gone through the roof.
And this is an attempt with very little downside except for the fact.
And that's hilarious to me that the left says,
well, this just means parents are going to have to take their kids to the doctors more.
It's like, I'm sorry, your kids should be going to the doctor once a year anyway for a checkup when they're young.
You know, it's like that's just.
If they're over 12, they'll decide, Darren.
Right, but the vaccines are way before then.
Yeah.
But it's like, what's the downside?
They keep pumping them after that.
They keep pumping them after that.
Of course they do.
Yeah.
And they figure out how they can get more money and which pills they're going to give them.
And somebody will walk in and say, hey, tell me about Jardians.
Yeah.
It is just insanity.
And it's sad that this is where we have gotten.
And it's sad that we have a news media that seems to be more beholden to the advertiser
dollar than producing his story because in this case, this is the least.
Think about it.
Think if there was actually some, Trump was saying stop a certain drug.
He's not.
He's saying, just separate these into three so that way there's less of a chance of an
interaction.
And they're going nuts.
Sure.
Stay out of our sandbox.
It's ours.
You're not invited, Trump.
But, you know, there's kind of a lighter side to the COVID-Fouchy mess.
I have something here from Naomi Wool.
Do you have that one?
Yeah.
You go to a city like New York or Boston or L.A.
and there's like a missing vibe.
You know,
since people have suffered this mass injection
and New York City is overwhelmingly MRI injected.
And I went there and I just felt like something's missing.
It is like a zombie apocalypse.
It's like where's the human energy?
Where's that energy of people,
kind of grooving off of each other, like resin off of each other.
And if you think about what the lipid nanoparticles are,
that could explain this kind of weird zombie-like quality
that human beings who have these MRI injections sort of exhibit.
Stop.
Are there zombies now?
Oh, listen.
Listen, before we get to the zombie aspect, notice her vocabulary.
This woman is very smart, right?
Did you notice her use the word vaccine?
Did she?
I don't think she did.
No, no, she didn't.
She chose the correct word, injections.
It was never a vaccine, not even for a nanosecond, a complete, fraudulent lie, right?
And, you know, as I'm always braying about, the left, the left, the left, they must,
they must change the vocabulary to their thing.
So you know what?
I'm not going to call it a vaccine anymore.
She's right. It's an injection and never say progressive. That's that's that's camouflage for commie. Okay.
COVID a migrant. No, it's an illegal alien, right? Gender. No. Sex was just a perfect word for it until a sick petto who should have been parboiled named John Money came up with calling people sexuality gender. It's BS.
Hate speech. There's no such thing. You know when you use their words, they win. And I really got to applaud this chick for calling those.
injections. That's all they were.
Explain this kind of weird, zombie-like quality that human beings who had these
MRI injections sort of exhibit and that sense of like loss of allure, loss of connection,
loss of magnetism.
Interesting.
It's fascinating.
And you know what?
As they heard this, I thought, wow, you know, I grew up in New York.
and, you know, in my heyday, I could walk 10 blocks.
And at the end of that, this would be in lunchtime or afternoon rush hour, I might have collected one or two phone numbers.
They might have actually been to, you know, real women's homes, not the dog pound.
How dare you interact with people face to face?
Yeah.
I mean, New York was absolutely, she's not kidding.
It had a vibe of people who wanted to connect.
It was everywhere on buses and the subway and restaurants.
There was always kind of a crackle of people trying to connect, you know.
And I visited for the first time in 10 years a few months ago,
and I was trying to figure out what's wrong.
The word zombie crossed my mind.
People in New York used to, they didn't walk.
They trotted everywhere.
They're really fast walkers.
That's gone.
They're just kind of loping along, you know, nice and slow.
And you go to a saloon or a restaurant.
look around and they're all kind of in slow motion. And that's not the way it was before. And I'm
sure she's correct that 99% of them took the injection. And she had a much larger piece to say
about how these nanoparticles have affected deleteriously people's genitals. You know,
really bad things. She says have happened because how much of that is correct? I don't know.
but I could corroborate her theory on the zombieification of the New York populace.
A lot less people getting laid in New York.
Exactly.
Birth rates of plummeted T-cells are in the toilet.
You know, it kind of makes sense.
Well, then you see that the younger generation isn't really into dating
and that they just want to sit on their phone and you mix all these things together.
You're totally correct.
The phone is a huge, maybe the biggest factor, yes.
Then you're going to have a whole new general.
generation in the United States and in the civilized world where the Chinese, they don't let their
kids sit on the phone all day.
No, they don't.
They're not using the one child birth rate anymore per couple.
So they're going to be pushing that.
But the clip collector sent me this and it kind of works here.
This is the morning Joe responds to the Trump childhood vaccine.
Now, if you really want,
journalisming. Morning Joe and Mika. They're where you go. Oh, yeah. Appreciate it.
All right. Big news yesterday. Big news. Big, big, big news. Breaking.
President Trump signed an executive order seeking to reshape vaccine recommendations for children.
On the current schedule, children are vaccinated against 18 diseases, but Trump's plan would
only vaccinate against 11. His order also calls for the MMR vaccine.
for measles, mumps, rubella, to be separated into three different single shots.
It's currently given in one dose, and there is no credible evidence that separating them
provides a safety advantage.
Not one study.
The president also made a dangerous and false claim yesterday about the MMR vaccine.
Dangerous and false claim.
Dangerous and false.
What can they be, Darren?
And no data.
Well, is there any data that says they're perfectly safe?
No, I mean, you need, we may need studies that look at groups that, you know, do a test.
Or the parents that want their kids to get the three and separate them and then see if there's a difference.
But that is going to take 10, 20 years for any real answers.
Sure.
And I can't really go against what Donald Trump said, which is if this is all we have to do is separate them and everybody still gets the full coverage,
it just might be a little bit safer.
Why would you be so against that MSNBC?
It's not control.
How about leave it up to the parents?
Let them decide.
That's what they don't like.
No, they don't like that.
You have the MMR.
We wanted in three separate vaccinations,
given it separate times.
Together, there could be a possibility.
They're quite lethal.
And separately, it looks like they are not at all lethal,
but just very effective.
And I think I heard you say,
that the MMR vaccine for Musil's Mubon's Rebellis is quite lethal.
Is there any evidence of that?
What I've heard is that there are some people that say it is that way.
And I say, well, let's say there's a 5% chance of it.
Let's split it up.
Let's split it up.
Because they do say that given individual, MMO, that given individual there is no impact.
In fact, they've said how safe it seems to be.
But I've heard when you put them together, they can't be explosive.
That's just not true.
To be clear.
That's just not true.
To be clear.
Mecca.
Just I've studied.
That's absolutely.
Oh, he's studied.
Yeah.
He's a doctor now.
Joe, he's a doctor now.
Yes, he's studied.
He probably called Anthony Fauci.
No doubt.
By the way, you know, no.
Oh, good.
Continue.
Medical action.
No study.
To support what you just heard from the president.
No medical evidence.
Bobby will say it.
To what he just said.
Bobby made me that person he's talking about, but nobody else has said that.
There's no medical evidence except Bobby might have said it.
Well, again, if somebody tells you that you're going to do these three things anyway,
but if you do them in this order, they might kill you.
If you do them in the other order, that's much safer.
Well, wouldn't you do them in the other order?
No, because Pfizer needs those profits for quarterly.
You got to mix them all in.
One time, yeah.
Listen to the science.
Yes.
And I don't understand why you wouldn't, again, just cover that story with, well, there is no evidence, but what harm is it going to do?
It's not like you're saying, no, we're not going to do these vaccines anymore.
Right.
Well, let's, how much does Pfizer contribute to their ad revenue each year?
I think your answer is probably there.
Probably a lot for...
Of course.
Of course.
That's why they're so vehement about this.
I mean, they're foaming at the mouth to defend that crap.
Trying to watch any kind of news coverage.
It's very much like a reverse mortgages.
That's right.
Medications usually for, you know, the fat drugs.
It's too much.
Ask your doctor today.
It has to be a 90-7.
second ad too because 60 seconds are going to tell you what might happen, including death.
And the people in them always have that kind of zombie thing going on. Have you noticed that?
None of them moves very quickly. They might all be AI by now. Maybe. Maybe they are. By the way,
did you know that Fauci's name is now listed in the Urban Dictionary? I don't want to know.
It's as a verb to plead the fifth to refuse to answer a question, especially avoiding self-incrimination.
So it has an example.
It says interviewer.
Quote,
did you see who ate the last
lights of pizza?
Me.
I'm going to fouch you on that one.
So there you have it.
Yeah?
Good stuff.
At least it's not any crazy sexual thing yet,
which is what normally you get.
Oh, that'll come.
That'll come.
In the urban dictionary.
Yeah.
Now we'd add the election.
You and I talked about Ms. Hong in...
We did.
In Wisconsin.
Yes.
As long as we're picking on NBC,
see this is their coverage on it.
This is the other interesting thing that really was not clippable,
but it proves to me that social media is complete and utter garbage.
It is completely inaccurate.
It doesn't matter if you're on the left or on the right.
You're most likely getting things that are not true because this clip of,
NBC covering the elections was hosted by a bunch of right-leaning accounts,
and half of them called them CNN, half of them called them, you know, I think MSNBC.
They were just like, it's right there on the video.
You can see the little thing on the bottom that shows you what it is.
So you're posting a video that clearly says NBC,
and you're going to be like, oh, even CNN's amazed.
There you are.
But it's not CNN.
Okay.
And Hong is losing statewide by 6,400 votes with, you know, nearly 60% of Dane in.
Her margin here is only 3,732.
I mean, this is supposed to be the idea of a, this was going to be a, you know,
a sort of DSA earthquake in Wisconsin.
This was going to be its epicenter, Dane County.
This is what Dane County looks like with almost 60% of the vote in.
So again, zoom out.
You know, I've been, you know, processing this and reserving judgment and the possibilities here.
You know, the very friendly Hong precincts in Dane and everything.
But, I mean, that's a lot of vote in in Dane County.
And, you know, that margin there.
has not opened up the way I think a lot of people expected it was going to.
Meanwhile, okay, waiting on Central Count in Milwaukee,
Waukesha just a tick more came in since we last check.
Nothing there in Washington in Ozaki.
So yeah, they're really not sure what's going on,
but let's remember if you were watching the polling numbers,
which anybody that pays any attention to polls,
you're out of your mind because they are never right.
Before this election,
I think the polling on average had hung up like 20 or 22%.
She lost.
But what I saw, I guess a day or so ago,
was she lost by just a hair.
Yes.
It was a very close.
Very, very narrow margin, right?
Am I correct?
Very.
Yeah.
But she was supposed to win.
by 22%. So yeah.
And here's the,
for an insane commie, she did pretty damn well.
Oh yeah. Really?
This is, uh, yeah, the
Democrat party
having its own little infighting.
This was another clip of the same dude
when all of a sudden out of nowhere
a ballot surge came in.
By mail overnight?
Probably, yes.
On a USB stick. That wasn't the right
USB stick or something.
some weird things going on.
Okay. Wow.
Wow.
What the heck just came in in Brown?
Was that the, that was huge for her?
Yeah.
So that was about 18,000 votes.
And she nets 2,000.
Question.
Was that the...
I mean, you can tell this guy,
even without the video.
Yeah.
You can tell this guy is amazed by
what just came in while he's covering this live on the air.
Was it pulled out from under a desk in, uh, in Atlanta, right, probably.
It was in a banker's box that was found in a janitor's closet.
Right.
That wasn't central count, was it?
It's possible.
There's, there's no remaining vote in Brown according to our counter.
I'll check the, I'll check the website.
I said I won't percent more, but now I do because if that was vote, if that was central count,
it is, what was his percentage of that vote?
Let's take a look.
If this was Central Count, this is the question we're getting at from Milwaukee.
If he just got buried in Central Count Green Bay, it was 44 to 34.
Hongover Crowley.
Okay.
Okay, yeah.
Can we ask our decision desk what we think that was that just, and do we think there's central count left?
Can we ask our people what the hell just happened?
Hmm, really.
CNN says the establishment is striking back.
Bernie Sanders, Alexandria, Ocasio-Cortez.
They did not endorse her, as they had endorsed Abdul Al-Said in the Michigan Senate Democratic primary there.
I want to say, I've been on cable the last few days a lot.
I like a little left-tale there.
I've heard a lot of Republicans with talking points.
They were loaded for bear on Francesca Hong.
Francesco Hong was the candidate they were focused on.
They were already trying to nationalize her, what they saw is her imminent,
victory in Wisconsin. How surprised are Republicans this morning? John, they are very surprised.
Not only were they talking about this campaign and how they would effectively use some of her
comments, they were trying to prop her up at the same time. A remarkable play here. The Republican
Governors Association was spending more than $4 million running ads showing that she's a
strong of progressive. Well, that was seen as a way to effectively meddle in this race.
So Republicans were hoping to run against her.
That did not happen.
So this race is an example of the establishment striking back.
But John, I'm also thinking back to an interview I had with David Crowley on Sunday evening.
I asked him about that establishment thing.
He said, look, I'm established, but I am not a member of the establishment.
If he would win, he would be the first African American governor right here in Wisconsin.
Yeah.
Have you checked Crowley's policies?
No, it's probably not a whole lot different.
It's almost identical to hers.
So really, you know, it's the same thing.
They'll make great hay of out of Crowley's nonsense.
Well, it's because Democrats be democrating.
That's true.
And people are like, oh, you guys are all one-sided.
It's like, show me where I'm wrong.
Yeah.
This was an interesting little blurb when they were talking about this on CNN and, of course,
all of the voting, the Save America Act.
This was something that even surprised me.
This was a White House spokesman saying that, yeah, Obama shouldn't have been on the ballot illegally in Indiana.
In Arizona, he hired the ninjas. What were they called?
The cyber ninjas.
I'll give you an example of where it has been determinative.
And that's in my home state of Indiana, St. Joseph County.
The gentleman you previously worked for, David Axelrod, Barack Obama got on the ballot because Democrats in that county submitted fraudulent ballot petition signatures.
people, including the Democrat County Chair, went to jail over that.
Barack Obama should not have been on the primary ballot in the state of Indiana.
But that's not a voting. That's not a voting issue. Like that's, can you believe this is the?
That's not a voting issue.
But that's not what the Save America Act is going to help with. This is the guy on CNN.
Oh, but that's not a voting. Wait, the guy shouldn't have been on the ballot. He got on the ballot illegally.
Mm-hmm. But to CNN, that's.
not a voting issue.
In the state of Indiana.
But that's not a voting. That's not a voting issue.
Like, that's something.
Well, it is a voting issue because he was on the ballot and people could vote for him.
That's not a issue, though.
That's not a, you know, they're stealing the elections.
Illegals are voting.
That's an Indiana issue because Indiana is the one that determines who's on their ballot.
How did that get determined?
And that's Axelrod asking.
Who's like, wait, wait, what did this happen?
Who was that idiot?
I mean, that's incredible.
The guy from CNN.
I don't know which anger that was.
I'm sorry.
How did that get determined?
It was finally exposed two years later.
It went through the courts, and several people found themselves in jail.
But that's the problem.
It didn't happen.
They didn't find it before he was on the ballot.
It took years after.
Oh, but that's just an Indiana problem.
Just an Indiana, yeah.
The way the system works, you've got to be amazed.
You do.
And revolted.
Jen Pasaki, I hate the term, but said the quiet part out loud that the Democrats used to be the ones picking the candidates, not like letting the people decide.
It is really. And I want to bring Liz Smith into this conversation because Liz and I grew up in Democratic politics. We're still young, of course. But we grew up in Democratic politics together. And I think we both remember well when party leadership really selected the nominees. Now, you would never say it that way, exactly.
but they would.
You can now.
Now we can. We're free.
You know, they really did because
they would put money behind it. They would endorse.
And now
it looks very much like party leaders
are not picking the nominees.
In fact, party leaders pushing nominees
is a negative.
It is a negative in many
of these races.
What you mean are the ones with the highly
leftist
DSA candidates is what you're saying?
Yeah.
These people are no good.
Right.
Hey.
Ladies and gentlemen,
it's the podfather Adam Curry.
22 years ago today,
the daily source code.
Ah, you remember.
You remember.
I love it.
I love it.
In the morning to you both.
In the morning?
In the morning.
It's where real podcasting began.
Was it 22 years ago?
Yeah.
Was it,
I thought it was it?
I thought it was it.
2004?
I thought it was three.
You launched an enterprise on the 13th of the
the month.
No, no, no, bold.
Bold.
I don't want to interrupt your flow here because this is so interesting, these DSA people,
you look at the response on social media and you think that they were already, you know,
in the House and in the Senate.
Oh, oh, another communist one.
These are, these are primaries.
Yes.
It's meaningless.
Yeah, they still have to go through the big election.
Yeah.
And if you look at, what's the Al-Fayette?
Is that the guy's name?
Al-Sahed.
El-Fa-ed.
From now on, known as Al-Fa-ed.
And he's got to look like Alf in any album art.
There you go.
You know, if you look at the primary results,
none of the working class areas voted for him.
None of them.
It's all, and I understand,
these are all highly educated,
highly debt-laden people
who got,
But sadly, sciopt into believing that if you go to a university, then you will be rich when you go into the workforce.
You'll do just fine.
And the two things that changed is their parents allowed them to go to woke universities.
The woke universities were allowed to exist.
They came out with gender studies degrees and they're useless.
And so, yeah, and it's all about hate Trump, protects our community of illegals.
and Medicare for all.
It's all the things that, you know,
that have already been adjudicated in Congress.
And I think this is great.
I mean, there's a lot of Republicans, I think, are nuts too.
But these people, I don't see them winning.
Well, have you seen El Caird doing his cowboy dance?
No.
Oh, wait, I mean.
He should come to Texas with that.
Yeah, I would have brought a clip, but it was just musical.
and Darren, you should know,
he was dressed like the cowboy from the village people
and kind of moved like him too.
And he was doing his dance to a Taylor Swift tune.
So there you have it.
Nice.
Nice.
But the guy, you know, he's completely from the whole Axelrod, Obama background.
You know, this guy smells so bad.
Road Scholar.
Okay.
Not just a road scholar.
I checked on him.
Part of his education was paid for by the Soros Foundation,
who by the way is 96 years old today.
Happy birthday.
Wow.
Wow.
But the foundation.
He wasn't out of the birthday list.
It's not like he's...
Put him on.
Put him on.
It's not like he's sitting there stroking his white pussy,
pun intended.
You know, the Open Society Institute,
I mean,
that thing has been so ingrained across the world.
It's a machine.
So that is a real problem.
But DSA, everyone's just, who runs the DSA?
Who are the leaders of the DSA?
Who's running this?
Nobody knows.
No one talks about it.
They're never doing interviews.
I thought it was Antifa.
No, there is no such thing as.
Oh, that's right.
It's an idea.
Joey says so.
It's just a thought.
It's a concept.
This was, there was the co-chair, was on the, on Fox, and actually went to,
Hard to believe for an interview on Fox and had a really hard time explaining the millionaire's tax.
Now, Hong also wants to abolish ICE to fund the police, push government-run socialized health care for all,
creates state-run grocery stores, and allow transitioning treatments for minors.
Sounds like the plan.
Yes.
All those points are pretty consistent with her past pledges, especially her attacks against law enforcement.
All of that appears in lockstep with the broader DSA platform.
which critics say is so detached from reality that even the co-chair has trouble explaining a key pillar of it, high taxes.
Do you believe there should be millionaires in this country?
I'm less concerned about millionaires, more concerned about billionaires.
We do believe in taxing the hell out of millionaires.
If you're the co-chair of the DSA, shouldn't you be more specific than just taxing the hell out of something?
What exactly do you mean?
So, again, it's democracy, right?
And we have to look at what we need to spend and what we need.
Right.
We look at what we spend and what we need and we just take it.
Take it.
Take it.
Right.
Right.
Span.
It's one hell of a plan.
It's a great plan.
They're only concerned about billionaires, which again, if you take all the money from all the billionaires, you're still not going to pay for what you want.
But it's crazy because these kids who are all in on this, because I have a daughter in New York, stepdaughter, but she's my daughter.
And, you know, I was pretty successful at deprogramming her during COVID.
It was difficult.
We started, we started at you guys are white supremacists.
Why do you say that?
Why do you say that?
She went to University of Arkansas.
Really woke, woke, super woke college.
Who knew?
Really?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's really incredibly woke.
Or whatever we used to call.
woke one, I guess.
I don't know what it is these days.
Woke one.
And I said, well, why do you say that?
I said, well, because you're watching Tucker Carlson every night.
Oh.
Okay.
And then, of course, Tina's like, wait a minute.
You're living in a house.
Your lifestyle is funded by white supremacist.
What's wrong with this picture?
Anyway, so she's in New York.
And definitely, I will take some credit for deprogramming her.
She's even said, hey, you know, you guys,
right. But when it came to when it came to Luigi trial, she was out there. Oh yeah. She's like,
you know, first of all, she thought he was hot, you know, on the down low. Like, what do you
mean hot on the down low? Well, he's secretly gay. Oh, okay. All right. I'm learning all this.
And, you know, so she was like free Luigi. And I'm sure she voted for Mondani. I'm pretty sure
she did. She said, you know, he wants to give us stuff that we need. Now here it is exactly. Now,
But she's since, funny enough, she's gotten into quite a career path where she's doing quite well for herself.
But she was, you know, busing tables, slamming drinks at bars.
And in that period, here she is highly educated with a polyside degree, kind of useless.
And, you know, she was like, yeah, I'm all in on this.
Give me some free stuff.
So that's, that is your audience.
Yeah.
I don't think it's that big.
No, because anybody that starts then making their own money realizes where that money's going to go to pay for everything else that you were promised for free.
Yeah, exactly.
You de-incentivize somebody actually being successful.
Now, the thing that is dangerous that I feel is something we need to look out for is what my neighbor down the street, Laura Logan.
And she calls it the Red Green Alliance,
which is the socialists with the Muslims.
And I mean, this is, Texas is just out of its mind right now.
Now, there is a real concern here because I saw this happen in Europe.
It takes 25 years, but it can happen.
But it's just kind of starting here in the United States
because of the last four years and even,
during Trump and before Trump, this immigration, it's always immigration.
It's not Muslims.
It's immigration.
Sure.
And it's the apathy of people sitting around going like, yeah, city council, school board,
who cares, you know, like state senate, like, and nobody.
And then these highly organized, funded groups like, you know, the socialist, the DSA,
they start to meld with the enemy of my enemy.
Oh, wait a minute.
you guys hate conservatives and Christians, good.
You'll be with us and we're going to put a stamp on you and then you can go into government.
And when you get to that point, that's where you have to be careful.
Because then, you know, now someone has different ideas about what your city or your state or,
God forbid, your country should act like and be like.
We had this big thing in Texas about the curriculum for the school board.
I mean, it was open for comments.
They literally had to do three days.
There were so many people who had comments.
And you had the socialists who wanted no Ten Commandments, no Bible history lesson.
They wanted Quran, I mean, all of this stuff.
And people came out.
You know, people got organized.
They came out.
And then they said, no, no, no, that's not going to happen.
Here's what we're going to do.
But that's only because people started to get mobilized.
And now it's just, it's so.
crazy. There was an article this morning.
Let me see here. Here. Dallas Fort Worth Airport to install Muslim foot wash stations inside
terminal bathrooms. Well, everybody is like, this is an outrage. What's happening? Of course,
they did this at the Houston airport in 2024. You know, we have special pat-downs for
Sikhs and turbines and all that. So now everyone's, now they've completely gone nuts.
And they're fundraising off of it.
And I'm like, we are so stupid.
The three of us are so stupid.
Here's what we need to do.
It's been in the pipeline for a long time.
I mean, my older daughter is 26.
And when she was in first or second grade at a public school in Los Angeles.
Okay, so that's 20 years ago.
They canceled St. Patrick's Day and replaced it with Ramadan.
Whoa.
Then.
Okay.
So this was very real.
But did you run for school board to stop that nonsense?
No, of course not.
I ran for cover.
Woo!
Yeah.
Hey, morning zoo time, everybody.
Nice, very good.
But that's what I give myself the blame.
Like, I'm in 80s, 90s.
I was MTV guy.
I was making money.
I got no time for your school board nonsense.
But you know what I think, I think that,
If you really boil it down to the very essence of politics that goes back farther than the invention of communism or socialism or any of this stuff, there's only two kinds of people in this world.
And those on the left, I kind of called Astco's, which stood for assholes seeking to control others.
People who want to tell you what to do.
And most of us on the other side who do have families and lives and jobs at MTV or elsewhere, right, how do we live?
We just want to be left alone, Lutful, leave us the F alone.
And that's really what it boils down to.
And so those ones that are obsessed with controlling other people, it's just, it's their religion.
It's just what makes them tick, you know, and they'll always be doing it.
But that, but to be an American is to represent and to get, get your ass in gear.
You're right.
It should be.
We kind of, we kind of forgot that.
We took that for granted.
True.
And I will, I will ring the bell about that, because I,
saw it happen in Europe. I saw
just apathy. People like,
yeah, whatever. Government never changes.
And it did, right under their noses.
Right under their noses,
that changed. Now,
what gets me is the amount of
YouTubers and
podcasters who are just
making bank on this Muslim stuff.
I mean, we have one
Muslim donor, Sir Anonymous of Dog Patch
and Lower Slobovia. He seems
pretty okay to me. He doesn't
seem like a political, radical,
Islamist. But I think
we just need to say it. If you
don't support no agenda, the Muslim
Brotherhood will take over this show.
Can't deny it.
Can't deny it at all.
Who knows? Larry may be a sleeper
cell for all I know.
I feel like it, Adam. I really do.
I've never seen you in person, man.
I don't know. I don't know.
You got a beard? It's the same thing with
no, Gene has the beard. You got to really be careful
of Sir Jean.
Gene looks just like a terrorist in general.
Well, that's true.
The people assume that who is ever in charge is doing the right thing by them.
And that lasted for so long because it was kind of the case for a long time.
They've completely checked out.
And it's the same whether it's local government and the PTA or it's who you're electing for your state Senate or House or who you're electing to send to Washington.
They're just assuming like, well, the people that we put there, they have our best interests at heart.
And the mainstream media gives them that story.
So they just go on their day.
And they don't know what's going on at all.
They're ignorant.
I think a part of it, too, is parenting.
I never voted until I had kids because I just didn't care.
What kind of world will I leave behind?
What do I care?
I won't be in it.
How about you at?
When did you first vote, Adam?
Just curious.
Probably not until.
Gosh, probably not until I was in New York at MTV.
So my mid-20s.
All right.
And part of it was because we lived overseas.
My parents did vote.
They, you know, it was a real hassle to get an absentee ballot.
You know, these days, it just comes to your door.
You get a hundred of them.
Look, I got a whole mix of them.
It was, you know, I had to go to the embassy.
You had to show your papers and you had to request it.
and then you had to go pick it up at the embassy.
It was a real, a real ordeal.
My parents both did that.
And I think the only reason why I, for the same reason you're saying,
Larry, the only reason why eventually did vote is at MTV,
these were all New Yorkers and they lived in New York.
And they were like, you know, voting days like, oh, no, man.
Like, I got to go vote.
Yeah.
It was a thing, you know.
And then I also hadn't really been in America growing up.
So that's when I realized, oh, crap.
I probably should vote.
And I'm sure I voted for Bill Clinton.
I'm quite sure of it.
You know, because it was cool.
Boxes are briefs, Mr. President.
You know, and I got an invitation from Hillary to go visit the White House.
Did you really?
I want to know more about this.
Yeah, I wish.
I wish.
You didn't go?
No, I was on assignment.
I think at the time I was doing the, I was the only guy who could ski at MTV.
and they did a deal with the pro-Mogal skiing tour,
which meant someone had to go out.
Unfortunately, someone had to go to every single awesome skiing place in the United States.
That's horrible.
And British Columbia.
I went to Whistler.
And I would do the top 20 countdown, a couple of segments.
And when I got back, someone said, oh, yeah, this came to you up at the office.
And you have to understand, the office and the studio.
there was two different worlds.
The MTV News Department, which came in at a certain point, and they hated us.
They just hated the VJs.
VJs were just scum to them.
We never got invited to the Video Music Awards.
Oh, yeah, you can have a ticket.
Oh, yeah, you can get a ticket if you fly yourself out.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
And so, and this invitation had come in from the White.
I still have it.
It come in from the White House.
The First Lady, Request Your Presence.
I don't remember what it was for, but so it had already passed.
by the time I got the invitation.
You were a ski bum.
Ski bum.
Yes.
Indeed,
ski bum.
But, yeah, to answer your question,
you know, mid-20s.
Yeah.
Mid-20s.
And, yeah.
You know, so that is,
I,
people are right.
If you don't,
if you don't,
what's the acronym?
G-Y-A-G.
Get your ass in gear.
G-Y-A-I-G.
The troll room's already created
an acronym.
acronym. Gigi, Gigi.
Yeah.
Then it can be taken away from you.
I saw it happen.
How do you feel when you go back to Netherlands and see what's happening?
I mean, that must really depress the hell out of you, does it?
Well, so the kids, my daughter, Kevin, her, I'll just call him fiancé,
because he's promised me that he will marry her.
They're doing a reality show right now, so I said, okay, season two then, I'm fine with that.
You can't.
You don't mess with the podfather with the judge.
Have someone else pay for it.
And of course my granddaughter, Cleo, little baby Cleo,
who I'm not held in my arms yet, end of the month.
You know, all of Rotterdam, not all,
but many parts of Rotterdam are just Moroccan now.
And that is an immigration issue,
which turns into a Muslim issue,
because they have their own schools,
which are, I guess, technically not called them a dross,
but it's probably pretty similar to it.
The macro mafia, as is known,
they run all the drugs in Holland, all of it.
And they run the drugs all through Western Europe.
It all comes through the port of Rotterdam.
And so, you know, my daughter doesn't necessarily feel safe walking alone.
She can take care of herself, but she doesn't like it.
And when we were there visiting,
a couple weeks ago.
She's like, I think the topic of boobs came up.
The boobs donation.
This is people talk.
Well, it came up in the context of feeding the baby, breastfeeding.
And in Europe, it's very common for women to breastfeed in public.
It's not a big deal.
In fact, growing up in the Netherlands, although a tad shocking to my parents in the
in the early to mid-70s, you go to the beach,
and Holland has beaches, it's right on the North Sea there,
and everyone's topless, men and women.
And it was just normal.
And the Dutch didn't even understand, you know,
co-ed showers at the sports club.
Wow.
Now, that has gone away over time,
but just, you know, taking your top off as a woman on the beach
was not seen as a big deal.
Well, now, oh no, not only that,
but they have burkinis everywhere.
Oh.
So it's a Burka bikini.
Yeah.
And yeah, the freedom-loving, open kind of, I will say, liberal society of the Netherlands is ruined.
Change forever.
Changed forever.
What about the red zone in Amsterdam?
Is that still cooking?
That's a tourist trap.
I mean, they change that a long.
time ago. The coffee shops are dwindling because you can't sell it as a coffee shop.
So you have to keep operating until you drop dead. I don't think even your kids can assume it.
So all of that cool stuff is gone. Now it's nut jobs with TikTok, you know, influencers.
Everywhere there's a sign like, oh, we have the strobe vaffles from TikTok. This is the place you need to get them.
there was never like fresh strobe waffle bakeries in Holland.
You know, a baker might make them.
And now it's a TikTok attraction.
It's all ruined.
It's ruined.
It's been Disney-Eyes, Americanized.
Not Americanized.
I mean, first of all, in Amsterdam, there's no Dutch people.
It's all expats.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I love Amsterdam.
It's so cool.
I ride my bike everywhere.
The grandma bike.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah. But it's the same thing. What's going on in London, what's starting to happen in Ireland. It's all just a destruction of culture. And it's being done intentionally. And everybody wants to just ignore it and say, well, it's good to have diversity. It's like, well, but it's not good to destroy cultures.
No. Well, and that, and, you know, so if you look at these, these DSA or DSA adjacent candidates, one of the big things there,
where the big things they're talking about is affordability.
Okay, affordability.
And this is something that's coming from both sides of the spectrum,
affordability and endless wars.
And, you know, I've been looking at this Iran war since it started,
but before then as well.
You know, Iran has always been an interesting region.
And, you know, particularly 79, we all know, you know, what we did in 79.
It's, you know, we've, we've always been a part of the kind of, well, the North Sea nexus has always been about keeping, keep that region, keep it a problem, you know, so we can kind of own the oil trade.
You know, oil is still mainly traded on the ICE, which is the British Exchange.
Of course, there's also Brent is traded in the United States or a tech.
Cruz, WTI.
But the whole thing, you know, the oil has always been the issue.
And for all these years, or 47 years, as our dear old Lindy Hopp would say, Iran has just
been a problem.
And now everyone hates Trump.
All sides hate him.
But I think they're missing what he's doing.
First of all, Trump doesn't care.
He doesn't care if the Republicans lose the midterms.
He doesn't care.
He really does not care.
He has a couple things he wants to fix with America.
The first one is production, factories.
I think he's largely succeeding.
If you see the jobs report,
okay, it's 5,000 jobs,
but it came after another 15,000 that were created in a previous report.
He's put these section, I think it's 232 tariffs on steel,
which makes anything,
anything coming from abroad that contains steel just too expensive.
So I know a CNC milling guy here.
He says we almost can't handle the work.
Wow.
And it's all American steel, which she said, yeah, it's more expensive.
The prices are going to come down over time.
But if you look at the Chinese steel, it was crap.
40% you throw away.
It was just no good.
So the job, I think that's the big part.
if I believe Mike Roe and I tend to believe him,
there's 7 million jobs that need to be filled
and there's 7.5 million people who just stop looking for jobs.
I don't know exactly why that is or that they're living with their parents.
There's 40,000 welders that are needed.
You know, another multi-10,000 electricians.
You don't need a degree.
You can just go to,
to an electrical company and say,
I'm willing to work, they'll teach you.
Right.
They'll train you quick.
I mean, we have a guy here in Fredericksburg,
and he prepares the wineries.
He does all the, you know, the pre-planting, the harvest.
Well, of course, the vines aren't really planted.
They stay there.
But all of the sprinkler systems and ice came through town.
Oh, we need a lot of employees.
No, ICE has been through Fredericksburg several times.
And so, you know, all of his workers are gone.
And he is desperate.
They're like, you know, they're up to like $30 an hour.
I'll pay anything.
Just come and work for me.
So that's going to change.
And that is, that's kind of the point.
That's part of what the president was doing.
Now, when it comes to Iran, I think everyone is seeing it incorrectly.
This is, you know, we have the choke points.
the main one being Straits of Hormuz,
you know, we have the Sue West Canal.
There's another one there.
I'm forgetting the name.
But, you know, these are the maritime routes.
And I'm just going to put fertilizers and stuff to the side.
And when, you know, when there's problems in the region,
then, you know, the oil doesn't flow as it should.
This is a Bank of America guy talking about on CNBC.
Well, it's a bit of a laundry list, so to the extent that the U.S. and Iran cannot come down to an agreement to allow free passage.
Remember, we are seeing just about five to ten ships a day.
We need to see about 140 to be back at pre-war levels.
And frankly, to stabilize the market, we probably, because we're rerouting through Saudi Arabia and the UAE,
we probably need to see 80 to 100 ships a day.
So again, we need to see roughly 10 times the flow of ships to normalize prices and prevent an escalation.
into the winter. So the analysis that no one is giving is that this entire operation started a year
before the kinetic operation and is our gay general patent, Scott Bessent, on the down low,
who started Operation Economic Fury. And he, in this clip, I'm glad I got this one,
he explains exactly what the plan has always been and what it's going to be. And then I have some
clips to back up that is happening.
At Treasury, we did economic fury.
What goes little publicized is on the kinetic side,
Air Force is wiped out, Navy's wiped out,
a big portion of their missiles, more importantly,
their missile production.
On the economic side, we have them by the throat
and they've got 150, 180% food inflation,
not able to pay the troops,
So I think shortly, maybe even today, tomorrow we are going to see an agreement 30, 60 day ceasefire, and straight will be open.
Energy prices should come down.
There are some who've speculated the straight will never go back to being the way it was before.
What would you say?
I would say, I would take, I think they're saying that in a doomsday sort of way.
I would say it in another way.
The strait is never going back to the way it was because the Iranians have used or tried to use it as a choke point.
What we are going to see over the next two years, the strait's going to become irrelevant.
It is going to become just another body of water.
And I would say that more than 50 or 70% of the energy that moves through the straight now is going to go through underground pipelines.
My favorite topic.
The pipeline.
Yes, and all these pipelines are already in place.
They've been used.
They're not big enough to make up for the 20 million barrels of oil per day.
But they're being expanded.
If you recall, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, all these guys got oil.
Iran's not the only one.
They stepped out of OPEC, which means one thing.
They can pump as much as they want.
They're not restricted by the rules of the oil-producing economic communities or countries.
countries and they're doing it.
And this crown prince dude, he's not messing around.
The strait of Hormuz has been a key energy artery of the world.
A narrow stretch of water just 33 kilometers wide at its tightest point,
through which nearly a fifth of global energy supplies passes.
But now, as Iran continues to restrict global shipping access,
through the strait, the UAE, is expediting an alternative oil trade route.
Abu Dhabi is moving with unusual sea.
moving with unusual speed to ensure that its economic future is no longer tied to Hormuz.
The UAE has ordered a fast track expansion of a major West East oil pipeline,
a project designed to bypass the Strait of Hormuz entirely.
The directive came from UAE crown prince, Sheikh Khalid bin Mohammed bin Zaid, who has been asked Abu D.
I think he's running for Michigan seat.
Derby National Oil Company to accelerate construction timelines.
At the center of this strategic shift is Fujaira. Unlike most Gulf export terminals,
Fujaira sits on the Gulf of Oman, outside the Strait of Hormuz. That makes it one of the
few safe exit points for Gulf oil if the strait remains disrupted. The UAE already operates
the Habshan-Fujair pipeline capable of moving up to 1.8 million barrels of crude per day.
But now, Abu Dhabi wants to double that capacity by 2027. It means that the Gulf
monarchies are no longer treating Hormuz disruptions as temporary crisis.
They are building for a future where they will no longer be reliable on the strait.
And that marks a fundamental strategic shift.
For years, energy security in the region was built around the assumption that global
navigation through Hormuz would continue.
Now, with Iran's restrictions through the strait, that assumption has collapsed.
So I look at the two-year timeline that Besson is talking about.
That's 2028.
these pipelines will be in full operation.
There's even a pipeline that Iran built
that goes up the coast of Israel.
You've got to wonder why we're going to protect that.
Bypassing the whole Sue West Canal nonsense.
That was built in like 1967.
That's being reactivated.
Now, so by 2028, the oil will be flowing
just the same as it was,
maybe even a little bit earlier.
By 2028, the steel industry will be,
you know, for every job you create in at the top end of steel,
there's like six jobs downstream.
People are going to be back at work just around the time when, you know,
we're going to have a general election.
New president will come in.
It doesn't matter who it is.
They're not going to say to the steel producing states,
well, that's no good.
Send it back to China because you'll never get elected.
So I think what the president is doing, yeah, I can see.
I love the trope.
Trust the plan.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is not 5D chess.
This is just chess that no one's.
reporting on. It's that simple. Some Indian lady is where I have to get these clips from. You kidding me?
So that's what's going on. And it will be good. I feel very good about it. And the president does not
care about the midterm election. I don't think he even cares about who comes after him.
That he wants his legacy. That's it. Yeah, that that'll be his legacy. And, you know, and of course,
he'll have an arc and all that, the arc to triumph, arc to Trump, all that stuff. You know,
He's kind of weird that way, but
it'll be goal.
Those, those two general
missions, I think are good.
You know, the, and then probably,
he probably, trust the plan, everybody,
probably has seen that this AI thing is going to blow up
because he may not understand it,
but he's not stupid.
He knows numbers.
I'm sure he goes to Darius,
anthropic, and says,
so what's your profit?
Well, nothing.
We're burning money, literally burning money on computer chips.
Well, okay, then let me fast track all of these power plants, nuclear, gas-fired turbines.
Well, that's going to be great.
So whether these data centers work out or not, whether they get filled or not, whether they're used or not, there's going to be a lot more power, a lot of power.
And power equals life and productivity.
No matter, I mean, that's just the basics of any economy.
Power.
That's why the Chinese have done so well.
They've hydro power.
They never went on the green energy scam.
So they're just burning coal.
They also have some, the thing they have some huge fusion magnet thing that,
I don't know if that'll ever work, but, you know,
may just create a hole in the universe.
Don't you wish that he would be some concern?
about the midterms because look you know you get the lefties back in there just think about joey he
stepped in and i'm shutting a pipeline pipeline down all electric cars no you know they're crazy and
they don't care about productivity and jobs or anything just their their agenda well but this is but
you know there's not a pipeline that you can it's it's not an american president or american congress's
business how the oil moves from the uae and saudi arabia true that's not his business
So if anything, what we're doing now by sitting there and shepherding, you know, there's still 80 ships a day coming through.
Shepherding whoever we want to come through, we're kind of helping all these other countries create this alternative route.
That's ultimately good for everybody.
You know, Congress is not going to stop that.
Okay, take the ships away.
By then, it's already, Congress can't, if Congress wanted to stop this war, they would just defund the,
The war department.
Devorak and I went through this.
Like, Congress gets to declare a war.
You can declare all you want.
But it's a commander-in-chief who calls the shots.
That's why they haven't stopped it.
They can't stop it.
Every president has called a war powers resolution,
a war powers resolution unconstitutional.
And it is.
So what are they going to do?
They're not going to stop that.
And, you know, back to the steel example,
what are they going to do?
just kill all the jobs that were just created in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the
country. No. So. Yeah. And it's not what the end result so far has been is, I think 18 servicemen and women gave
their lives in the Iranian thing. And I looked this up the other day because I was curious. In the same time period,
a hundred and ninety people have been murdered in Chicago where 18 service members, you know,
sadly died over in Iran, but when you kind of look at the cost of everything and what is coming
out of it. And if you are going to be able to, you know, I give Trump a little bit of credit for
not going in and just bombing them, bombing them, bombing them. He's running this a little bit
longer than a lot of people would like. But the end result is their economy is going to crap.
They can't get oil out. And once they're bypassed, their biggest card of we have the straight of Hormuz
kind of goes away.
I wish instead of saying, you know,
18 military men and women lost their lives,
I would just like to say these people were heroes
for securing our future.
Absolutely.
And they should be revered and they should be remembered for help.
But everyone's been sipped.
You know, it's like the right and the left.
Oh, endless war.
War of choice.
No, this is, every president has talked about this,
but no one did it.
and now that Trump's 80, he doesn't give a crap.
You know what Joe Rogan told me?
When they had the,
they had the,
the, the, the, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the
thing.
UFC thing. U.S.C. Thank you.
And, you know, there was this, you know, some gang or whatever.
They were going to try and assassinate the president and kill people.
And Joe said, the Trump said, but I think Joe said, aren't, aren't you a
afraid of, you know, getting taken out. And Trump said, got to go sometime, Joe.
Got to go sometime. I can't be afraid of this stuff. That's your president. Right, which is what you
want. You've got to have somebody who is able to stand on convictions and not have the death threats
and understand what may happen if he pisses the wrong people off. Well, the problem is that the
only guy who actually tells you what's going on is Bessent. And he,
It just talks like a dishrag.
You know, it just, he's, he doesn't, and Rubio, I don't know why Rubio doesn't just,
someone has to just say this is the plan.
I don't know why they're not saying that.
I'm sure there's reasons for it.
Or maybe fewer people understand it at all.
But to me, it seems so obvious.
And, you know, it's not like we don't have enough oil.
It's just the global.
price is set on markets,
whenever there's demand,
the supply always follows.
There's always been enough oil.
It's just the price of it.
That's the problem.
Well, yeah, we have enough oil.
What was the last number?
Like, for the next 600 years.
So it's not like there's a,
oh, no, we're running out like we were told decades ago.
Peak oil, baby.
I think it was 600 for coal.
Uh-huh.
I think it was 600 for coal.
Was that oil, really?
I don't remember that, but peak oil.
During the, during, I think it was 2009, during this show, peak oil.
Oh, it's peak oil.
Oh, no, we're at peak oil.
There's going to be no more oil in the ground.
That went on for years.
Yes.
For years.
Just like climate change.
Still coming out of the ground, too.
Yeah.
And so the hot job market will be for steel workers and demolition guys to take down all the unused AI data centers.
Is that correct?
Well, maybe, I mean, I think that they can, they can be used as factory floors.
They're probably useful for that.
Yeah.
What about are you any near the one that Musk wants to build in Texas?
It's going to be 100 million square feet.
No, no.
I really have a hard time,
a hard time believing that this is actually going to take place.
I actually have a couple of MS now clips about data centers.
Man on the street stuff, you know,
which is always good to pick fun.
Let me see what this is.
And then we have a chachat sauce too.
It's a three and one sauce.
You need to be a television host.
This is a guy with a food truck in Detroit.
That's your job, I think so.
They're trying to build a lot of data centers in Michigan.
Do you think it's going to be an issue that's central to the politics here in the state?
I do.
Why?
Because people think that their bills are going to go up and there's a lot of...
People are scared of them.
They are, and I'm afraid of them too.
What scares you the most?
The water usage and the prices.
And the prices with the utilities is frightening to me.
I'm in my 70s.
Pretty soon I'll be sitting down doing nothing.
And I'd like to have the money to do it.
And I don't want a $200 water bill.
And this is an interesting sci-op that's taking place about the water bill.
I don't think that is true.
You know, these systems, they take on water and then they recycle most of it.
Not all, but most of it.
For sure, I know from dude named Ben,
name Ben, a dude named Ben, the protector of megawatts,
that a lot of these data centers are definitely
screwing around with the local municipalities by setting up,
you know, they kind of hide behind their power generators that they're setting up.
And so they are passing on costs to the local community,
but I think that's temporary.
And there's obviously a lot of, you know,
a lot of money changing hands to get these things built,
And, you know, we have a new generation of farmers who are looking at how much work it is to run a farm.
Right.
And then you can get for the land.
How much you can get for the land, exactly.
And so people are being told the most horrendous things.
AI data centers, yeah, it's where they do a lot of the AI, making the AI stuff.
Are you worried about it?
I am worried about it.
I'm very concerned about it.
Yeah, because I feel like when you cold press something, you need water to do it or no?
Well, I need water to clean my stuff.
you know, and wash my produce and do all of that.
There's no water in that juice.
She's in the food truck, too.
I'm kind of for them, you know, as long as they take certain safeguards, you know,
environmentally and noise pollution and all that stuff, the residents who live out by the new ones
apparently don't think that's adequate enough.
Yeah, they're not happy about it.
What's your name?
Connie Bank.
Connie, it's so nice to meet you.
That is a nice head of cauliflower you got there.
Guess how much it costs?
How much?
This is Detroit, honey.
How much?
One buck.
Stop it.
I'm telling you.
One dollar.
$1.
$1.
Oh, no.
All right.
So, yeah, temporarily, but I think, I think this is the gambit here is get all of the, and
these turban, they're using old jet engines, anything they can get.
All GE is sold out of power generating turbines through 2030.
They're sold out.
So we're going to have power everywhere.
I really don't think they're going to be utilized, at least not with the so-called
artificial intelligence that we're seeing today, you know, because the numbers just don't add up.
But that power generation is going to be fantastic.
I stand by this.
And, you know, the president said, it was kind of genius.
Okay.
I don't know if he came up with it.
But, you know, to say that these are utilities, these will be local utilities.
And I truly believe that that is going to turn out to be true.
And it probably won't be powering these data centers.
but they'll make power very efficient.
Maybe we use these as factory floors.
We start producing stuff here with nuclear energy.
There's, I think, eight small medium reactors
that are being deployed all around the country now.
This is the stuff that was being held back for decades and decades.
And so now the, I don't know if you've been following this,
but this is such a bull crap money sink that they've got black.
Black Rock and KKR and Blackstone and all the big hedge funds,
they're all raising half a trillion dollars now to build out data centers with
Nvidia leading the charge.
Invidia, the only profitable company in this entire mix.
And it's another form of the circular financing that's been going on,
except now they've come up with a new, a new,
come for the new one.
tokens equals a commodity.
So you can invest in tokens.
Now, no one knows exactly how they're made,
what each token is different,
what does it really cost to make a token?
Doesn't matter.
They are setting up,
not the 99-2000 bubble.
They're setting up the 2008 crash is what's going on here.
So Jensen Wong calls AI infrastructure a new asset class.
Do you agree with that assessment?
Well, we have spent so much money already on data centers, on AI, companies involved in AI.
Their stock market valuations have soared in Vindia itself, which of course is a huge supplier of chips to the artificial intelligence industry, has a market cap now of more than $5 trillion.
dollars. Unfortunately, Wall Street has a tendency to really get into excess mode and hype mode. And
this is an example of that, to be honest. It harks back to me about what Wall Street did to push
mortgage-backed securities leading up to the 2008 financial crisis when Wall Street firms
literally vertically integrated to be able to provide mortgages, write mortgages, and then
finance mortgages, package them up into mortgage-backed securities and sell them off and keep
some of what they couldn't sell on their balance sheet and use that to finance their own
cash needs on a daily basis resulted in disaster, as we all know. So now we've got $500 billion
coming out of essentially the private credit market to finance NVIDIA's construction now
of new data centers as if there aren't already enough data centers.
It's.
So here's Larry Fink.
Now, the thing about Larry Fink is he runs Black Rock,
but whose money does Black Rock trade?
It's our money.
It's our money.
Yeah.
He's,
you know,
the $9 or $11 trillion that he trades is from the United States of America.
We need to raise this money as fast as possible.
Yeah.
and put this to work because I think it's really imperative that the United States is the leader
in AI in the world. And I think we need to be the leader in the disbursement of this technology
around the world. And I think this is why this is so critical and I applaud what Navidia has done
bringing all these firms together and saying, we have a common goal. We need to raise 500 billion
dollars. Obviously that's an unprecedented amount of money, but we're going to have to raise
trillions of dollars over the coming years.
And I do believe this is going to be representing a fantastic investment.
Yeah.
In fact, I think it's going to be such a large investment.
Over time, you're going to see more and more allocation into this asset class.
Jim talked about compute as an asset class.
But importantly, I look at the financing of data centers.
This is the very beginning, like what it was when I started in the mortgage-backed securities
market in the 1970s.
And I look upon this as a next future for financial engineering.
These guys are amazing.
They literally just, oh, yeah, I was part of that mortgage-backed securities.
It was great.
I started as a great business.
Fantastic.
But the thing is, they're building the data centers.
It's the power that I don't think is being built from our money, BlackRock per se.
And BlackRock may not be using our money.
They're going to raise this money.
So they'll raise it from sovereign wealth funds and all kinds of other places.
But here's the numbers on the power.
Just end with is that the power is what drives all of this.
The access to energy.
Yes, the access to energy.
And we need to build more faster.
And there is a financing system for power.
Like, it's not new what Jensen's doing with compute.
It will, compute will get to where power is.
There is.
But it physically has to get underwritten.
And like, we have 14 nuclear plants that were in various stages of construction.
today. And it will be another 40 with another
hundred coming. Oh, we're going to get them done.
And this is the first time, in a long time, that market
driven forces can build out the sustainable energy necessary
around the world.
So you don't need government funding.
Market-driven.
We're building these ourselves, and they're going
to get built all across the United States. And remember, we bought
Westernos out of bankruptcy seven years ago.
Nobody was building a nuclear plant.
And there's a renaissance going on today in the United States, led by Westinghouse, that is incredible, largely because it's carbon-free, it's base load, and it's the next energy that's coming.
Yes.
And that's what's going to be great about this.
And I see you see Brooklyn 112 in the troll room, same Ponzi over and over.
The sea stands for cynical.
No.
It's not a Ponzi.
That's real investment.
And it's going to be great.
I'm going to be mining Bitcoin for one cent a kilowatt hour.
I can't wait.
Power is going to go down.
Yes, it's going to drop dramatically.
Well, especially when people don't understand they're already the people that are working on these AIs that are distilling models on their own.
They're taking these open source models and they're able to get nearly the same accuracy.
Oh, man.
A much smaller model, which takes a much less electricity.
Forget the chatbot nonsense, which is a complete lost leader for these guys.
I have a Helix machine, GTX, whatever it's called, 64 gigabyte.
I'm running 15 complete robot radio stations.
On one machine.
Creating the voices, checking the promos with whisper, everything's going back and forth,
which would cost $3,000 if you had to buy it from Anthropic
or even if you use, you know, one of these outfits like together.a.i
where you rent by the minute.
Right. And I'm running that at home on a relatively inexpensive machine.
And what is the format of these radio stations?
Christian contemporary music, baby.
Interesting.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you should.
Oh, man, you should listen to.
You know, what's the CCM that's going on today, that's like rock and roll.
I mean, it's good stuff.
You got Brandon Lake, jelly roll.
There's some country in there.
You know, it's good.
And the message makes you feel good.
Of course.
With Jesus.
Amen.
It's working.
Quick, Larry, think question.
I want to know how he's getting along with the decline in DEI.
Wasn't he like the leading that charge?
Oh, yeah, no, he had to shut that down.
You know, it was, it was thinking those guys who set up the whole scale.
You know, you're not investable unless you, what was the name of that?
What was that?
I remember that.
I talked, I talked about it on Rogan.
What was that called?
Hold on a second.
What was, you know what I should, what am I thinking?
Where's the book of knowledge?
Book of knowledge to tell me.
What was the DEI scale that BlackRock and Larry Fink put into place that companies had to adhere to?
Let's see what the book of knowledge says.
I need to give you the book of knowledge there.
Here it comes.
Will he get it?
I don't know.
It's a little dusty.
Haven't used him in a while.
I'm not so sure he's going to need more electricity.
I need a new.
Your power plan.
Right in the backyard.
Well, you can do that in Texas.
According to the book of knowledge,
the instrument wielded by Larry Fink
was not a DEI-specific scale of his own making,
but rather the broader ESG scoring system.
Yes, ESG.
A zero to ten scale mapped to MSCIESG letter ratings,
running from AAA for leaders down to CCC for Laggards,
through which BlackRock, as a shareholder,
used its enormous leverage.
There you go.
There you go.
The ESG score.
That's what it was.
That was it.
Yeah.
But the push for electricity is interesting,
especially when they started throwing EVs at everybody
while the power grids were basically failing.
So here's your answer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And even Zuckerberg, he sees it coming.
He wrote a manifesto, like a mass shooter.
He wrote a manifesto.
Anybody is able to code and do it right from their own home.
It's the release of Muse Glimmer.
It's accompanied by a 14-page essay.
The gayest name ever for a model.
Muse Glimmer.
Muse Glimmer.
It's the release of Muse Glimmer.
It's accompanied by a 14-page essay from Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg,
where he lays out his vision for the future of AI,
and he's saying it's to push to democratize the technology.
Live now to Chief Technology correspondent for Axios,
Ina Freed.
So, Ina, it's a manifest.
Manifesto makes it seem like a huge deal.
Manifesto. What's in it?
Well, he's trying to address a few different things here.
He's trying to counter the dumerism first and foremost.
He's trying to paint an optimistic vision for what AI is going to bring.
So the first thing he really tries to do is contrast himself with the people that are saying,
this is something you need to worry about.
And so he goes point by point around the environmental concerns, working with communities,
where there's data centers. He talks about cybersecurity and how AI can be a good thing.
He talks about jobs and how it's going to create new entrepreneurial opportunities,
even as it does perhaps get rid of some of the traditional jobs that we're used to.
So that's one big point. The other is to say, look, we're back in the game.
Meta has been behind an AI. They spent a fortune to bring in Alexander Wang.
He's been leading an effort for around a yearish now to kind of rebuild.
from the ground up and they're saying, look, we have something worth checking out and they're
returning to open source. And then the last thing he wanted to do was push back a little bit on the
government. Yeah, because, you know, all these companies like, oh, we need government, we need labels
on the, on the gay eye. Well, they're begging for guardrails and so somebody else can make those
hard decisions. Yes, a moat, as we call it in the business. A moat. We need a moat. So I think it's
great. Anyone who's messed around with some, I'm not a coder, but I've built all kinds of fun
stuff that is useful, that I'm selling to actual customers. And that's what AI is good for.
For things that have come before, it is not good for things that haven't already existed.
I mean, if you're building something with packages with code that have already been tested out,
makes perfect sense.
If you really go out of the box,
it's harder for these things to...
Look at what I build for you.
It's amazing.
I mean, it took me 20 minutes.
I'm like, hey, I got this soundboard,
and I have my clip set up,
and I want Darren to be able to access it on the web.
Boom.
And it works.
Yeah.
But people have done this before.
People have created soundboards,
not exactly in the same way.
They've played put together playout systems.
So anything that's been done that it can access that code.
The best example is having a username and password login.
It's used on every site.
The code's already out there.
The AI can implement that code into your project.
And it really is just like making every little piece of code a puzzle piece.
Well, I think what's nice about it is you can streamline your business.
Oh, yeah.
So an example.
So I've been doing this show with Pastor Jimmy called We Get to Do This.
I've been doing this for, we now have 45 episodes in.
And, you know, seeing as my situation is changing and I'm being pushed out by two other guys who are taken over the show.
Yeah.
I would take your old, but Larry's older, so we can't use that.
It's like, I got to do value for value.
And, you know, and I said to Tina, okay, you're back office.
She's like, what?
You know, what?
Work.
She, no, she doesn't mind work, but, you know, she's, she's good at writing newsletters and doing that stuff.
But, you know, when you have to pull in Stripe and, and, and PayPal and donations, and so I just sat down and went, okay, we're a little business here.
Robot, I call all of my AI's robot, robot, make me a system that pulls in the donations, makes it into a nice spreadsheet, orders it this way, put the notes into it.
And, you know, the robot said, okay, I need some API tokens.
Okay, how do I do that?
Click here, click there.
Okay, both.
Click, click, copy, paste.
And then it says, do you have a website?
I said, no, but you can put it on the, I got a computer.
Okay, I'll put it on this computer.
And it just built it.
And I just type in donations, all uppercase, and it brings it in and it's done.
and that saves a marriage.
Oh, absolutely.
It's weight and gold.
With these new enterprises,
will you be doing any cookie stuffing like Phoebe Gates?
Oh, man, I hope so.
Yeah.
Don't do that, no.
I love the cookie stuff.
Isn't that great?
Yeah, it's like, here's an affiliate program,
and I'm going to steal your money.
It's awesome.
You've got to explain that.
You've got to explain what's going on with that.
I don't know if I can do it.
but I think she's probably going to do less time than Fauci.
That's just my bet.
But they're saying she's up for perhaps 20 years.
I don't see that happening.
Really? Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Fia, the AI shopping assistant, co-founded by 23-year-old Phoebe Gates.
And Sophie Keani allegedly used cookie stuffing to claim commissions on sales that didn't drive.
Or like honey.
That was the same deal with honey.
Yeah.
Honey was the same thing.
Yeah.
So basically you take the affiliate cookies, browser cookies, and then you just use
them. And so whenever someone is buying something through that, you hijack it. Yeah, it's great.
Yeah. America, baby. That's how we roll. She should go to, she should go to jail for sure.
But that's the beauty of these AI systems. You can pull in your spreadsheet from PayPal or wherever and just go, you figure it out.
Okay, to round out this tech segment, both of you are old enough to remember dial up modems.
Yeah. Certainly.
Okay.
Now, Larry, what was the speed of the first modem view ever used?
Do you remember?
My God, I'm going to say it was, I think it was something in the teens.
Was it like 16?
Was it B-A-U-D?
Did that mean something?
No, you're in the BODs.
Okay, Bauds don't count.
You were on bulletin boards trading porn.
No, I'm talking about it.
To connect to the Internet.
To connect to the Internet.
I don't remember.
I don't know.
Do you think 1,200 Baud sounds right?
Maybe, maybe.
Well, listen and tell me if this sounds familiar to you.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
You've got mail.
That was 1,200 bod per second.
Okay.
All right.
Now, did you, I'm sure you had a 2,400 bod.
This is, that would that sound like?
Oh, yeah.
That's more like it with that little beep in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I like that Bemrose is triggered.
That's not hard to do.
All right.
So these things eventually, so that was 24.
Then we went, I think we might have had 48.
Then we had 96.
Then 14.4, 28.8, 33.6.
Then we had 56KV.9.
I have anybody remembers this.
But here's what I want to test.
Tell me the speed of the following modem.
Are you ready?
Sure.
Right.
What was the speed of that?
modem. Not 288. Was that faster?
288. You nailed it.
288.
I might write some lyrics to that.
I started with a 300 bought acoustic coupler.
Ah, that sounded like this. Here you go.
It's very slow.
Very slow.
But it was great because you actually had to put the phone handset in and you could hear a cradle.
Into the cradle. I still have my TRS 100.
which is a laptop-sized device that had an eight-line LCD display.
And you could do, the journalists had this.
You could write documents and you could run some basic programs.
And it had an acoustic coupler, which I also have.
And then later it had a built-in modem.
And I think that was 300 bought.
And you could dial into the newsroom.
That was way better because with the acoustic coupler,
You couldn't even play your music loud.
I mean, it would screw everything up.
All right.
Here's the one that we probably all remember.
This is the 56K.
Ah, good times.
I wonder what game is really in there.
I'm pretty surprised you got the 28-8, Darren.
That was pretty good.
Hey, when you've been using them as long and those,
they all have a distinct little sound to them.
And there were wars.
Gosh, I wish John was here.
There were wars with different modem vendors.
Like, no, no, no, you got, we have the V.
Hayes had their Hays compatible system and U.S. robotics.
They came out with the V.92, I think.
Right, where they were throwing like compression end to try to make it faster.
Oh, yeah.
How often did you upgrade your modems?
Well, they stopped after a while.
No, they stopped.
I think they went, didn't we at one point have 112, but it was kind of unreliable?
Yeah, I never went to that.
I went from 56 and then.
had AT&T at home came in with one megabit down or 1.5 megamint down.
Oh, man. Wait, when was that?
Oh, that had to be, what, 2000?
Oh, okay.
No, I'm talking 90s.
In the 90s, I had a 56K frame relay dedicated line, which was cool.
Because you didn't have to dial up.
It was just on all the time.
And there was no, you know, no charge.
But still, if you, ISPs at the time got very angry if you stayed out all day and all night.
Mm-hmm.
And then at a certain point, with my company on ramp, we had a, we had Molson ice as a client.
And they had the Molson Ice Polar Beach Party.
Remember they had polar ice, Molson, Molson Ice, Polar Ice.
And so we built the website, which we,
easily charged $50,000 a month for it.
It was a crew, such a good time.
Now you just,
Chad GPT, make a website.
And we had to do the prize for these winners
was a concert at the North Pole
with Metallica,
Varuca Salt,
and Hole with Courtney Love,
three bands. And it was it took to Yuktuuk,
so the Northwestern territories,
You know, we were like a mile inside the Arctic Circle.
And we had sold, we said, we'll live stream it.
Okay.
Good luck with that.
Well, of course, the technology at the time was C, you, see me.
And we did have PCM streaming audio.
So you could at least get some streaming audio.
But how were we going to get the connectivity up there?
Right.
And we built this thing called the roadbox.
and the road box was a flight case
and it had
I think 30 modems in it
so as long as we could get
and it mucksed them
and then at our office
we had a demuck so we had
30 modems on the other end
and so it would
you take these
these 30 modems and we were
able to get phone lines because there was
an oil drilling station up there
so we got the phone lines plugged them all in
and then you know that combined
created, I don't know, created enough, like probably half a megabit or so, in order to stream
the CUCMe and the audio back to home base. And it worked. It worked. That's crazy. 30 modems,
30 phone lines, and it somehow worked. And Larson was a real woossey boy. He was complaining
the whole trip. Always complaining, oh, complaining, complaining. Courtney Love was crazy.
She didn't care. She's like, I'm going to jump into the Arctic by water here.
That's great. Calm down, Courtney, calm down. Yeah, good times. It was a little chilly.
Yeah, well, you got to dip your toe into the North Pole water, of course. It did that.
And, you know, it was daylight, 23 hours of the day. And we're up there and it's, you know, there's no alcohol.
It was complete dry village, tuck to yoke, tuck. Oh, no. And so it's like 11 at night and, you know, we're all out of our minds.
lagged and we're like you know we've got to get some alcohol and uh see these kids are riding
their bikes around 11 at night it's you know it's broad daylight hey kid let me ask you something
oh you want alcohol that guy over there go visit him over there man I'd forgotten that story
what's why you're writing a book any evidence of UFOs or the thing up there in the arctic
circle nah nothing like that no nothing like that nothing like that nothing like that and now
thanks to Elon, you just can get satellite connectivity and broadcast.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah, I've actually just turned my, you know, we're tightening the belt here in the
whole country.
It's like, do I really need this $150 a month backup satellite thing, the Starlink?
You can put it on sleep mode for $10 a month.
That's not bad.
We're supposed to be getting, they ran the cables finally getting fiber in October.
So I'm counting down the days.
Yeah, no, we got five gigabit fiber here.
It's fantastic.
It's part of the rural broadband.
So we're technically rural.
And so all of your government money that's supposed to go to poor people in the middle of America is going to the billionaires in Fredericksburg.
Five gig up and down.
Oh, yeah.
It's disgusting.
But at least you have broadband.
That's all that matters.
They can put it on the map.
I'm running a server.
farm here, baby. Another big scam,
all of the rural broadband.
That's, again,
follow the money if there is any.
All right, what else you got?
What do we got? I got,
let's see, I have one from,
this is always kind of fun.
There's a U.S. Air Force
former secretary now suing the government.
Do you hear about this guy? No.
No?
Yeah, his name is
Frank Henry.
and his security clearance was pulled about, I don't know, eight months ago.
And so he's very, he's upset about that.
And he's suing the government because, you know, he's entitled to that, I guess.
It comes as former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall is speaking out for the first time here on Outfront.
After the Trump administration revoked to security clearance over his comments to media outlets about Trump's new Qatari-gifted Air Force One.
And Frank Kendall is now out front, the former Air Force Secretary,
and now author of lethal autonomy, the future of warfare, whether we like it or not.
And Secretary Kendall, I greatly appreciate your time, and I do want to get your reaction to this Washington Post reporting,
because it's literally just crossing moments before you came on the air.
First, though, I just have to ask you, your reaction.
When you first see the post from the Pentagon that states that you, former Air Force Secretary,
have lost your classified status.
it's been revoked effective immediately.
What did you think?
And did you find out from that post?
Well, Aaron, it certainly made my weekend more interesting.
I found out about it.
My wife and I were at a cooking class.
I'd given her for a couple's cooking class.
I'd given her as a gift for her birthday.
Stop.
Okay.
So the guy's flogging a book.
Let's remember that.
Number one, he's flogging a book.
And it's probably the worst book ever written because he's bloviating.
Nobody cares about he was at a cook.
class when the call came in saying your clearance has been pulled, you know. And the guy goes
on and on to complain about this. And so he's kind of in the O'Reilly League for bloviating, I think.
And so that's what he's mad about. But here's what bug me when I saw this. I thought, you know,
I was with a couple of Fortune 500 companies. And when the ride was over, it was give us your
credit card. Your expense account is canceled. Your email's been deleted. And thank you very much.
and maybe you'll see your pension in 20 years.
You know, that was it.
But these government guys, I guess they consider, you know,
it just keeps rolling on.
And apparently having that security clearance entitles him
to all kinds of government consulting, advisory boards
and, you know, roles with defense contractors.
He can, you know, just pass the blather
and collect some nice checks for being an alleged wired and expert, you know.
Well, yeah, because that's what about my question.
Yeah, exactly.
So then I checked about he said he's going to sue them, right?
So I saw a legal thing that said the Supreme Court held in Department of the Navy versus Egan in 1988 that, quote,
no one has a right to a security clearance.
And the decisions about access to classified information are committed to the executive branch's broad discretion.
So there.
Now, do you normally keep security clearances once you are retired?
Apparently, a lot of these guys do.
And if you recall, I think Hillary was ticked off when Trump pulled hers after he was like to do.
Right.
Yeah, a whole bunch.
Yeah, but she didn't speak about suing anyone.
This is new with this guy.
But that's part of the, part of the gig is you keep your security clearance.
So you're on all the cool email lists and you use that and you're consulting.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
Then you can go on Fox News and MS Now and spew things and everybody gets a little piece.
Yeah.
Are you guys going to bring someone in on Sunday?
We had Steve Jones just volunteered today, which...
Steve is great.
He said he bought the whole podfather, Motu, R-E-320,
so he said he's all set.
I have no idea how he sounds.
I've never spoken to him.
He's been helping me for, man, I want to say at least three years,
maybe four years with clips.
He's the guy that got John's three-by-threes.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he would always...
do the three by threes for John and he would pull the Sunday morning things for me,
you know, the early Sunday morning shows.
Steve is good.
Well, of course, he might sound like Mickey Mouse.
I don't know.
So we need some processing and that'll be fine.
I encourage you guys to work with some of these no agenda nation people.
This is, you know, we're creating a kind of a new format with the show and I'm liking what
I'm hearing.
I said I know he would bring his own clips.
I like, yeah, I like that helps.
Yeah, he might have enough clips for every.
everybody for the show.
Oh, really?
But he says a man.
I'm like,
he's pretty good at it.
He's pretty good at it.
And get some women in there.
Where are the women?
Hey, I put a word out.
I don't know if she got the message yet,
but Dame Jennifer,
I was the first one Larry and I thought of for sitting in,
you know,
from animated no agenda for him and.
Absolutely.
Adding a different voice that,
you know,
has less testosterone might be.
Yes, she definitely.
A preferred way to go.
A low voice doesn't mean you have
high testosterone. You both sound pretty low
to me. Yeah, maybe it was very
very tired.
That's probably all the mainstream
media. Yeah.
It's those modems you fool around with. It'll get
to you though, right? You're watching this stuff
all day long. It tires you
out. It's amazing.
Because you can't believe
it is repeating itself over
and over and over.
I've got one more here. This is a Julian
Epstein, no relation, I'm assuming.
He is a Clinton
attorney. He was the one that when Bill was going through his little problem with Monica Lewinsky,
I think he was one of the attorneys. He was the attorney when Hillary ran for president. In his view
of the current media situation, I thought was interesting. You rely on MSNBC for news. I think
you're basically illiterate and uninformed about what's going on. I think that's somewhat, it's less
true for CNN, but also true. Julian Epstein. I'm a longtime Democrat. I was,
formerly the Chief Counsel of the House Judiciary Committee and the staff director of the House
Oversight Committee for the Democrats. I'm the former CEO of the consulting firm, LMG, which
represented amongst other people Hillary Clinton for president and a number of other Democrats.
Mainstream media is sort of covering the Democratic infighting and hinting at the possibility
of a civil war. We are in a civil war right now. And I think the news media is missing that.
But I think I know.
Sand the quiet parts out loud.
Really?
What?
Civil War, what?
Democrats?
No, they're all...
Just, Larry, particularly.
Just love your neighbor.
Love your enemies.
You know what?
When you...
When you show them love, it's like pouring hot coals on their head.
It's, it is...
I've tried this.
It's really fun.
Just love them.
I, you know, my route is this, Adam.
Here we go.
Outside.
I pull a ball cap low on my head like some movie star.
I put on my mirrored sunglasses, put the buds in my ears.
And then I said moose on bark at anything.
And I walked down the street and no one ever speaks to me.
And I'm good with that.
Why are you in Connecticut?
That's a great question.
That's not a great question.
Because he went from California.
You walked right into that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know what happened?
And as you know, Los Angeles just went to hell.
And I wanted to leave.
And then suddenly I found both my daughters were on the East Coast.
And my wife was kind of fond of this area.
She used to come up here in the summertime as a kid.
Are you near Armunk at all?
Well, I'm probably 100 miles from that.
That's IBM.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you got a beach house.
It's Larry in the beach house.
Nice.
Yeah, yeah.
But he's in the basement because he was afraid he was going to have people
cutting the lawn again.
Oh, there's always somebody cutting a lawn.
Always.
That's suburbia, baby.
That's how it works.
Yeah.
But that's what I do.
So, you know, that way I don't have to interface with anyone.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, you're perfect for podcasting.
You're the perfect guy.
Exactly.
Right now.
And I think the news media is missing that.
But I think more importantly, they're missing the nature of the extremism that is
happening with the left.
And they're missing the bigotry.
that is emerging on the left.
I've seen critical race is basically a permission slip for more bigotry.
It's to divide, tell people the most important thing about them is race,
and then to start building public policy around that.
That's what critical race is.
And now that they have embraced Islamic extremism,
they have gone one step further into a sectarian set of beliefs,
of beliefs.
And I don't think the news media is covering that.
And they should be covering that.
You, I know so surprising, isn't it?
Yeah.
Well, but this is the ploy.
This is, this is, this is, we love pitting people, sides against each other in America.
That's what we do.
And so this, that's exactly where the political Islam is, is, that's the one.
Everyone's only looking at that issue.
I'm not looking at anything else.
Right.
It's the whole distraction thing.
It is the point.
Yet everybody, as you said, this is going back to the weather underground manifesto.
Everybody, it's black against white.
It's people against the cops.
It's the rich against the poor.
As long as you are creating division, you can get away with a lot more.
And it's interesting when you're seeing Democrats that are coming out with this.
It shows there is at least some kind of a fracture going on.
How big is it?
don't know.
The distraction of the week.
Oh, no one's gender.
Look at the Muslims.
I take it over.
Squirrel.
Oh, doing a jingle off, are we?
Okay.
Oh, really?
Nothing to see here.
Oh, look at that.
Uh-huh.
That's fully into a zoo.
I got them all, man.
I got them all.
I got them all at the ready.
Can't we.
I wanted to play this clip real quick.
It's short.
Because we were talking about this on the show in, it must have been 2009, I'm going to say.
Maybe it was 2008.
DeVorak at the time said it's never going to happen.
It's never going to go into.
I got kicked out of my house under eminent domain for this thing.
And of course, I'm referring to the high speed rail.
The inspector general for California high speed rail says the project could run out of money as soon as December 2027 is part of the updated review of the project's revised,
business plan. The inspector general
says the plan still has major gaps
and information and violates California
state law. The lack of cash
means the project could face a financial
crisis unless lawmakers and the governor
address it by the end of the legislative
session. The session closes at
the end of this month. It's like
15 years and the thing goes
to Bakersfield or something like that.
It goes nowhere. It goes nowhere
and I think there are already
some insane amount, 80, 90 billion
in the hole on it and there's been a
little bit of like concrete superstructure built out in the middle of nowhere surrounded by mud and i
checked on this um the first high speed rail was built in japan begun in 1956 i think it was completed
in like 1958 or 59 how about that it's still running well and now there's a third party that's
doing one from is it la to Vegas oh yeah oh please oh please allegedly that that's a five-hour drive and
it's a right of passage.
It should never be done by train.
You got to drive it.
In your rented convertible.
Right.
That's what you do.
That's what you do.
Or your Tesla.
It'll just drive you.
I talked to the back office.
And Sir Paul Couture,
who we know from no agendaart generator.com,
has created a special memorial challenge coin
of JCD.
Very nice.
And I can't wait
for everybody to see these.
It is just an unbelievably
beautiful coin.
I want them to get them numbered
so you can get a number
and we'll figure out
how we're going to do that.
And then we also have,
I think we're going to do for people
who complete their knighthood.
So if you're close, you'll like this.
An order of the ants.
pin.
That's cool.
I like that.
You're going to put the little like
micro Piazzo
speaker, whatever they call that that plays
the goddamn,
that'd be great.
Either that or a little lighter,
you know, because you got to torch him.
You know, you got to torch him.
You got to torch him.
All right.
So you guys want to do donations?
Is it that time?
I haven't kept track at the time.
Do you have anything else, Larry?
If you want a quickie from our
buddy Hassan Piker.
Oh, yeah.
Well, why not end with a good commie?
Explain this guy to me.
What's up with this Hassan Piker guy?
You know, I'm trying to figure that out myself, Adam,
because he reminds me,
if you remember this, it was a character named Destiny.
He's kind of a lefty,
very lefty guy.
And this is like a larger version of him,
but he's become way more popular.
I don't understand why,
because he's completely negative.
He's got a very snotty sort of attitude
all the time.
And like all commies, he is a fake commie, as this clip will demonstrate.
At what point does your very expensive home stop being a basic human necessity
as something that essentially reinforces the very system that you're critiquing?
I don't think the purchases that you make necessarily, I mean, if you're buying a private jet,
it's a little different, but I don't think the purchases that you make as long as you're...
So you hear that?
You can buy a private jet.
anything except a private jet that's going too far you could buy a million dollar house yes yes you
buy Zuckerberg yacht but what he's talking about here is this guy he is a 20 22 and 2.7 million
dollar house in west Hollywood like five bedrooms bath swimming where does he get that from from
doing exactly well he's podcast he's an influencer obviously he's an influencer man I got to get me
an Instagram account this is no good it's crazy if you go tell me the money is there some for some reason
I don't understand.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And he should be giving it all the way, shouldn't he?
Absolutely.
Not using it to engaging capital accumulation imply, you know, something less ethical than whatever purchase you're making in general.
I have a house.
The reason why it's so expensive is because it's in West Hollywood.
That's in West Hollywood.
Yeah.
That's good.
It'd be even more expensive who's in Beverly Hills, which is adjacent to that.
That's great.
Why, you don't have to live there?
Oh, you got to love that.
That's funny.
Good for him.
And West Hollywood is the equivalent of the Castro in San Francisco.
Lisa used to be.
Very, very gay.
Socialism, but at the same time is buying multi-million dollar homes.
And his exact words are, it's okay if I do it as long as you don't do capital accumulation.
Well, capital accumulation means that you have a very large net worth.
Let's just see how much he is worth.
If we look at his net worth, we're looking at around an estimate of $20 to $35 million.
To me, that seems like you're accumulating a pretty large amount of capital.
If we look at his income, he's making $2.8 million in just a couple of years from things like subscriptions and donations.
And if we look at how much does he actually make per year, according to sources, it looks like he averages in the $4.
plus million dollar range in recent years.
So that seems to me like he is benefiting pretty well on the capitalist system, yet he's pushing socialism.
Yeah.
Oh, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's got to
he got to start with.
Uh, he was at the young turks.
Oh, okay.
Correct.
Yeah.
And by the way, the name piker is also a word and it means penny.
anti-gambler.
Nice.
Very nice.
Yeah, I think that wraps it up.
Yeah, you got to go commie, man.
Yeah, have to.
Well, we should go commie, but I will start us off with our donation segment here,
because this is and remains at Value for Value Podcasts.
You've got to support the work.
If you wanted to continue,
Larry and Darren also value for value on the show now,
which I really appreciate.
Did you hear Chris Wilson's intro to the donation segment the other day?
I did not.
Was that Sunday?
Because I dropped off after we were done.
Yes, it's just a quick little bit.
Yeah, play it.
It's very Chris Wilson.
This is your amygdala.
Shut up, Slade.
This is the mainstream media.
We are concerned about trouble and trying to be responsible.
One-side.
This is your amygdala without no agenda.
Any questions?
No questions.
Oh, man.
Well, time, talent, and treasure is how you support the show, your time, and your talent.
You can tell somebody about the podcast, tell someone about the show.
You can send them boots on the ground report.
That's how I got my information about the power and the GE turbans.
We get these from our producers who are right in the field, who know,
exactly what's going on.
You can do other things like create artwork for the show, which I've not been involved
in the selection for the past shows.
And I have to say, I thought the last one that you guys chose for episode 1893 titled
Unbunk, which the constitutional lawyer sent us a mini war in peace.
Yes.
And maybe it was the formatting of the email, but I was like, my eyes started to glaze over.
Did you guys get what he was saying?
I kind of.
And then he had the PDFs of what it was.
But it was just, again, a case of a literal swinging dick story, which was interesting.
I don't think I saw that email.
Would expect nothing short of that from the constitutional lawyer.
From the constitutional lawyer.
You know, he hasn't, you got to look at his Instagram.
Okay.
He's, he's, he's, you know, he's like, you got the big guys.
who just want to settle quick and you got us.
He's got his cowboy hat on.
He's got his boots on.
And we'll go for the top money.
Have you been hurt on the job?
Call us boots and suits.
Yeah.
So Scaramanga did this one.
Yes.
And I've kind of missed the conversation about the guy who wants to be in the W NBA.
What's his name?
There were several.
And as former NBA guy.
And there was a couple of them at least.
And then it seemed like there may have been more.
And it was basically trying to make the WNBA make a rule that says dudes can't play.
But of course, they're not doing it.
No, I think this is great.
This is almost like the shop teacher who was wearing the huge fake boobs.
Remember that Wisconsin?
I was insistent that both Darren and Adam apply as well.
Imagine how famous you'd both be.
We got the height.
Both six foot five.
if you're tall enough, right?
So just demand that.
Come on.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Thanks.
We're starting the podcaster basketball league.
Yeah.
I have to move the San Antonio play for the spurs.
But the sacks.
I mean, that right there, go for the joke.
That's what we learn from the art.
It was good.
You and JCD always go for the joke.
And that sold it.
The team name being the sacks.
And in a fun way, it was, you know,
it was John's favorite kind of, kind of art.
Yeah, the little cheesecake.
Cheesecake.
Just the difference.
Maybe a little different cheesecake.
Yeah, cheese cake with a 10 o'clock shadow.
I would say he's rolling over.
He would probably say,
it's just grotesque.
We can't use this.
He might.
He might not be wrong.
Scaramanga, good job, man.
Do you guys review the other arts?
We both really like the capitalist agenda honoring JCD,
but it was too small for album art,
but we both agreed it would be nice as a print.
with the diner setting,
the classic,
linking on the artist's name that did it,
looking into the diner at night.
It was Edwin Hopper style,
that classic,
you know,
it's usually Bogart,
and Marilyn Monroe,
and it's been reconfigured a thousand ways.
But yeah,
that was what it was.
Oh, I see it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was too small, too small.
I like the etchice sketch a lot,
but not.
The etchice sketch is great.
I think Jay,
used it in the newsletter. She did. I think it's a cool image. Yeah, it's the official no agenda phone.
Also capital agenda. So he's doing good work. And you know what? Once JCD was gone, the real
artist came back. Coincidence? I think not. They didn't like to be. Be rated. Be rated. Be rated.
Something, something up with that. Something up with that. Hey, I'm telling you. Of course, some of the days,
JCD really ripped into me
where the days he was like, hey, can you make me some art?
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Like, it's a bit.
Come on.
We got good support today.
I'm really,
I'm really grateful for people who understand that if you want the show to continue,
and now there's,
you know,
we're sharing this with Larry and Darren.
So there's now four families and 18 children,
depending on,
on your support of the No Agenda show.
And we thank Randy Filkins from Wellsburg, West Virginia, who comes in, boom, with $1,000 plus fees, $1,052,62.
And he has a prayer.
Heavenly Father, I pray you place your hand on the hearts of JCD's family and friends and guide them through their pain and loss.
Amen.
Thank you, Randy.
That is very, very kind of you.
Wow.
And that helps.
It does.
We've been doing a lot of praying for JCD, a lot of praying for the family.
praying for other families as well, like Horowitz.
You know, it's been a big loss for Horowitz.
Their show was going on almost as long as no agenda.
And I know because, you know, Horowitz is calling a couple times a week.
Brunetti's calling a couple times a week.
They had real relationships with John that went beyond my.
I probably talked to John longer on a weekly basis, but they talk to him often.
it's a different dynamic
and it's for Horowitz
it's like you it's
JCD is not replaceable somebody said
oh it took at least two guys to replace JCD
and yeah it's probably could be three
or four or more
I'm glad that's the thing it's like
my grieving is not just for John
the show
I mean it was that he
we had a performance together
yeah you know like
Laurel and Hardy
Lucy and Ricky
Fred and we were more
like Fred and Apple probably.
I mean, there were people, again,
nothing was better than JCD being
silent for way too long and then
moving on.
That was just okay.
Well, yeah, at the end there, he would go, maybe.
I'm like, why does maybe?
What is maybe? You can't give me a
maybe. There's no maybes in podcast
discussions. I love those
broad pauses followed by.
Okay. Yeah.
It's like, if you
want to, if you want to just cut somebody down,
do that. It shows deep contemplation. That's using the silence. It's art form. Only some can do it.
Next, we have baronet surplus to requirement. Came in from Indy Atlantic, Florida with 38888 and says,
rest easy, JCD. You are a legend. Condolences to all. Keep your chin up sincerely barren surplus to
requirement.
Larry, do you do these at all?
You just sit there and do nothing.
I sure do.
He looks pretty.
That's all.
I mean, he's good at looking pretty.
This is a Karen B.
33888.
Note, see attached, not page 2.
Where's that attachment?
What is it?
The,
what does it say here?
When Wiffant,
Wiffant? Who? When
Because there was a PDF of the one.
Here, when I first saw the picture
This is
Karen B.
I got it here, Larry.
When I first saw the picture of John
in the newsletter with his
real age, I was taken aback
given his great voice,
wonderful human humor
and
Spinnaker? No, it's probably not it.
I can't
understand. I don't know what that word is.
I was going with spryness.
I was going with 65 years old.
I first came to no agenda during COVID.
It helped to maintain my sanity.
I've always enjoyed the show because there is no hidden agenda.
Hidden in parence there.
The best was when John and Adam were bantering back and forth.
John will be greatly missed.
My deepest sympathy to me and the family and Adam from Karen.
Thank you, Karen, with $338.88.
Then Clint, Ms. Sennel.
Sorry about this.
Mestinal Sol, Eugene, Oregon, with 3333.
And no note.
Thank you.
We have next, Paul, from Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin, 333.33.
Oh, my Lord.
My Lord, again.
It says, you attach note page three.
Hmm.
Where is this page three?
I'm not seeing it.
I got it.
I'm sorry, I had a PDF.
I thought there was only one.
I must have missed the two and three.
Yeah, no, I got it here.
No agenda has been a steadfast companion
since discovering the show in 2023.
John's entertaining brand of wit and wisdom will be missed.
Godspeed DeVorak clan.
NPR is a bad product.
Support the no agenda show.
Donate.
Oh, he wants the,
he wants the spooky,
spooky,
I have that.
I have,
I have,
I have,
It's a spooky donate.
You've got...
Donate!
Karma.
It's kind of cool.
Darren, we got dueling setups here.
Yes.
I don't know if that's dangerous or good or...
I don't know, yeah.
And next,
Manuka Gold.
Yeah.
From Hudson, Florida, coming in with $250.
Says, in the morning,
always grateful for the show.
And to all of the new listeners,
we sell top quality consumable and topical Manuka honey products
and we offer exclusive discounts to no agenda listeners.
Now until Labor Day, get a free $25 small pain relief gel
with every purchase over $45 at manukagold.com.
Make it sweeter by using code treasure.
And check out for an extra 20% off.
And Larry, you got to get them your address.
They want to send you some honey there.
Very nice.
Yeah, you got to get in on that.
I'm a honey.
freak. I love this honey.
I can't wait to try it.
That's a perk of being a no agenda
podcaster. And I have
it on good authority. It was the last thing John
had in his mouth.
So now we know Sinatra last had a
grilled cheese sandwich and DeVorak had
honey. That's all you ended up. Manuka gold.
That's right.
23456 from
E.N.J. Electric in Colorado Springs.
I wonder what they do. Well, first
they say happy anniversary. Mimi and John.
This is a holdover, of course. Thank you
Darren and Larry for stepping up to the plates.
It's good to hear you on the show again, Adam.
Like others have shared, John and Adam have helped to shape my worldview over the years.
I'm one of those that has occasionally shut off all news except for the best podcast in the universe.
I know the show will never be the same without John, but as long as there is no agenda,
I'll be here listening in my truck as I roll out of the garage every morning.
I guess he's an electrician.
Looking to work with anyone in or around Colorado Springs, find my Google page at ENJ Electric.
That's the letters, E-N-J-Electric.com.
Shoot me an ITM.
We'll get you hooked up.
Nice.
Linda Lupatkin.
I do listen to the show, Adam.
It's just a nice big monitor now.
I can see it.
From Castle Rock, Colorado, $200.
And Linda says,
Jobs Karma, your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression,
and most don't.
For a resume that gets results go-to,
image makers, ink.
link.com.
Linda turns your experience into a resume that gets you noticed, gets you interviews, and gets
you hired.
That's Image Makers with a K.
And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and Writer of Winning Resumies.
Now, is this?
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and Jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Is that the karma one, or is there a Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Karma, or it's just Jobs, Jobs, Jobs,
No, you got the one.
Was that Hillary?
Or was that?
That was Hillary.
That was Pelosi.
Jobs.
Yeah, that's Pelosi.
That's the right one.
It's Pelosi?
Really?
Sounds like Hillary.
No, it's Pelosi.
And that karma.
You did it.
You did it right, man.
You nailed it.
Dame Lisa, Amic Lake,
18888.
I'll do a couple here.
Kevin redacted from Maumel, Arizona.
No, Arkansas.
Sorry.
10588.
Laura Nelson,
Bixby, Oklahoma, 105, 35, with love from our family to yours.
They could have just been sending some Harry and David fruit basket.
It's the same thing with love from our family to yours.
David Oliver, Calistoga, California, $100.
Best of the No Agenda team, Larry slash Darren crushed it.
I'll sneak over to Planet Raid.
Are you guys doing Planet Rage while you doing the show?
It's dead.
Just point your feed to Noagenda.
It's fine.
It's been a few weeks.
Would we really need to swear
there'll be a Planet Rage episode as a bonus?
Josh Corby, Ulyss, Texas, 100.
Thank you for your service.
Sir Skibbidi.
$100.
Please wish my son's Jen Smathri,
I think it is.
Happy 20th birthday,
celebrated yesterday on the 12th from Michelle and Sir Skibbidi.
If Adam has any hot tips about Jen's testing
for his fixed wing pilot's license in a few weeks,
that will be a bonus.
I would say it's for his future knighthood,
but really it's an investment into the continued operation of both no agenda and DH unplug.
Thank you for your courage and ITM, surskiddy.
Yes, here's the advice.
Don't sweat it because the examiner knows that your pilot's license is really just a license to learn.
Don't think you have to be perfect.
When I did my, I got my helicopter first and I did my fixed wing.
I bounced all the way in.
I mean, it was a mess.
And it's okay because the examiner knows,
you know, you're not going to be flying alone anytime soon in your own airplane
because someone has to sign off on you,
even flying in a rented aircraft.
So it's a license to learn.
You'll be fine.
Don't sweat it.
And they need pilots.
So that's not a bad thing to do.
They do.
They do.
Keith R. Johnson coming in with $100 from Arlington, New York, says,
Darren and Larry, thanks for filling in and giving Adam a break.
You guys did great.
Happy anniversary.
Mimi, our thoughts are with you and your family.
Thank you.
Ivan Silva of Norwalk, California, $100.
No note.
Thank you, Ivan.
Sunni from Muncie, Indiana, 9833.
Hope you're not underwater, man.
We got hit.
Right.
That was bad.
I think I sent a note and a donation, but I'm not sure it went through.
I still think a what the exact?
the exact F donation is a good idea.
Sonny.
Well, thank you, Sunny and sorry for saying SUNY.
Thomas Reynolds of Belafontane, Ohio, 93.64.
No, no.
Thank you, Thomas.
Christopher Sprada coming in with 9364 from Moriches, New York.
Is that what it is?
Larry Moriches.
Moriches, New York. Thank you.
Welcome.
Michael Burdett of Arlington, Washington, Washington.
88.88. No note. Thank you, Michael.
And Sir Herb Lamb, coming in with 8888 from Hilton Head Island, South Carolina.
Sorry for your loss. I've been a fan of John since the late 80s best Sir Herb Lamb.
Thank you, sir.
Ryan to Porton of Burnsville, Minnesota, 88.88. No note. Thank you, Ryan.
coming in with 8888 also anonymous in Austin, Texas, no note.
Thank you.
Hank Van Elk of Luxembourg.
Eldick.
Eldick.
Thank you.
You want to finish this one, Adam?
Yeah, I will.
Since I speak the language, Hank Van Eldick in the tax haven of Luxembourg.
No one else lives there but bankers and the people who service them.
88, 88, rest in peace, JCD, still no words for his loss.
My prayers are with you all.
Bank from Luxembourg. James Carter, Spicewood, Texas, right down the road.
8888, please accept my treasure and deepest condolences for the entire Dvorak clan.
P.S. Adam, my keeper hit a surprise in the scoreboard at the Arrowhead Bank there in Freddie to honor JCD.
God bless you. What? What is that all about? That's fascinating.
Well, I know exactly where that is. Hit a surprise in the score. So, okay. I shall report back.
I like that.
Maybe from jail if I'm trying to mess up with this.
Jill Obringer, Wayne, New Jersey.
Ah, the fountains of Wayne.
88, 88.
The ghosts of JCD told me to donate.
He invaded the Apple Home Pod in our bathroom.
My husband and I are sleeping.
I said, if this happened three times, I will donate, and it did.
Whatever works.
Sir, 10 feet tall.
10 feet tall, thank you.
Of Woodstock, Georgia, 88, 88.
Thank you, JCD and Dvorak family.
Much love to you and the rest of the Noah Genente family from Sir 10 feet tall of Agnar.
Anonymous and Fishers, Indiana, 88, 88, these are all 8888, Dame Teresa Martin from Camarillo, California, Ari Kona in Hollywood, Florida, Catherine Gerard in Perrump, Nevada, Nevada, Brian Rina in Kingsburg, New Jersey, Carmen Sue Tyler in New York, New York, Dean Wormel in Westford, Massachusetts.
And Larry, you can take it with Donna.
Donna Walters, Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin, 88.40.
Note says, birthday shout to my son Ryan.
Turn 40 on August 11, 508 in the morning.
Donna Walters, Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin.
Thank you, Donna.
Then Dame Rita Harrington coming in with 8833 from Sparks, Nevada.
And the note just says thank you.
And no, thank you.
I think I told you I met her.
She was at the memorial.
She's super cute.
She looks exactly like a Dame Rita,
like you'd expect her to look.
She says, I'm Rita from Nevada.
Wait a minute, Dame Rita.
Come here, bring it in, girl.
She's great.
He's great.
Cameron Ling,
North Branch, Minnesota,
8149,
mini show number, ITM.
Thanks, Laron, and Dary.
Got that, Dary?
Yeah, thank you, Cameron.
Very close.
And then, of course,
Kevin McLaughlin,
He comes in from Concord, North Carolina, lover of boobs, 8-0-08 donation, and says, Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs.
Gilbert Fraga of Los Angeles, 80.08. No note. Thank you, Gilbert.
Joseph Stegman coming in, also with the 8-0-8 boobs donation from Thousand-Oaks, California. Thank you.
Teresa Sebastian of Southbridge, Massachusetts, $80 even.
No, no, thank you, Teresa.
Dame, Dana Carroll, coming in from Laughlin, Nevada, 72, 27.
Thank you very much.
Stephen Schumake of Zinia, Ohio, 64.80.
No note.
Thank you, Stephen.
Les Tarkowski coming in with 60.06, a lot of those palindromes from Kingman, Arizona.
It's a small boob.
Small boob.
That's small boobs.
Small boobs, yes.
and Kingman Arizona getting on kicks on Route 66.
You didn't read the binder about the show?
No, wait, there was a binder?
There was homework, send it over.
It's with the book of knowledge.
It'll answer all the questions.
Christopher Dexter, 5678.
We see what you did there, Christopher.
Thank you.
Craig Nolsley, Cumberland, British Columbia.
One more donation for this month of months.
Mostly as an apology for inundating
Laren, Derry,
Laren, Darren, and Darren and Adam
with an obscene amount of picks from the carbon
kitchen, as we say in
Candinavia, sorry, eh?
Luke Monell, Los Angeles, 5272,
Brad Bowman and Duluth, Minnesota, 52, 18.
And here's the 50s.
We never do under 50 for reasons of anonymity.
Tim Delvecchio, Blandham, Pennsylvania, Gary Mao,
and Woodland Hills, California, Sir Alex Zavala
from Kyle, Texas,
Dane Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida,
Brandon Savois, Portch Orchard, Washington,
Kevin Dills, and Huntersville, North Carolina,
Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee, Jason Deluzio, Miami Beach, Florida, Aichi Kitigawa from San Francisco,
and Walker Phillips from San Rafael, California rounds us out for the treasure portion of the value for value, time, talent, and treasure.
We thank you all so very much for supporting the show.
It means a lot, and you don't want to be a douchebag for another one of us to drop dead.
because so many people felt so bad about not donating before John passed.
It was unbelievable.
Everybody always thinks there's more time.
Yeah, there never is.
Did we do a troll count?
I didn't, actually.
Let me take a look.
Do you have the troll count?
There we go.
Let me take a look.
Let me see what the max was.
We had 845 trolls, peak trollage.
JCD would not be happy with that number.
No, he would not be.
But, you know, I have a feeling this will just take some time.
People will get used to it.
We still make an outstanding product.
And my favorite complaint now is Larry and Darren's voice sound two radio.
Oh, there's a lot of that.
I got one, this one lady, she's like, they're no good.
first of all. They're no good.
She's not wrong.
And of course, I should do the show with Mimi.
It always starts with that.
And I don't know about that Larry guy.
He seems very dark.
I don't think he's good.
You should probably stay away from him.
She's right on all counts.
Very dark.
There's something very dark about that Larry guy.
Yeah.
I enjoy you guys.
I enjoy listening to you.
I mean, I may not be on the show the whole time,
but I enjoy listening to you.
Well, that is initiated.
We're glad to know that.
It's cathartic for me.
It really is.
There was one makeup jingle as well for Night of Sandy Ridge.
I guess it was from 1889.
I've got Pats Blue Ribbon on my lap.
Now there's a callback.
People are sending you hats now in case you hadn't received.
Oh, man.
That was a great.
And John got irked by it at the end.
He was mad.
Stop it.
Stop it with the Pats Blue Ribbon.
Well, then stop opening your soda.
Hand on the air.
Right.
I mean, you can do it away from the microphone.
It was a good bit, though.
Theater of the mind.
It was a good bit.
You know, and I just want to, just a little callback.
I really love what, who did the opening, the opener?
Jess.
No, no, not Jess.
Just Barker.
Just Baker.
Just Baker.
Just Baker.
I was getting around to it.
Jess Booger.
Just Baker.
Excellent.
But it's not really a jingle.
You need the opening music in there.
People should be sending it.
Did you get the stuff from Sir Brian with an eye?
No.
I forward it to you.
I thought I sent it to you.
No, we should, this should be a contest.
Create the opening of the...
Oh, there were two that were very AI-ish.
Maybe that was the anti-sent.
Yeah, that was the problem.
They were very AI-ish.
I mean, and Just Baker does that.
He knows what he's doing with AI.
That guy knows what he's doing.
Yeah, that was good.
I like the sound of it.
We just needed a little more extended so we can do the proper intro.
But if other people, like I said, we're not married to this quite as of yet.
So throw your hat in.
You can have the, add that to your IMDB page.
Created the theme for the No Agenda Show.
Hmm.
So noagenda donations.com.
That's where you can support the show.
I don't have the meetups.
I do have the birthdays.
I'll do the birthdays, real free.
It's a birthday, birthday.
I'll know what a champion.
Yeah, we have Sir Skippity and Michelle
wishing their son, Gents, Mathri,
I believe, a very happy birthday celebrated his 20th yesterday.
And Donna Walters wishes her son, Ryan, a happy birthday.
He turned 40 on the 11th.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast.
in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
All right, who's going to do meetups?
Well, we have two meetup reports.
The first one, of course.
Wait, you don't have the jingle?
You have the meetup jingle?
Oh, right here.
There we go.
Agenda.
Meetups.
Stay on the ball.
Come on, Darren.
It is like a party.
Indeed.
It is like a party.
I got to get a touchscreen,
which would make it easier, too,
than having the mouse go over it.
You need a second eye.
That would help.
Yes.
Yes.
That would also help very much.
They keep telling me they're close with being, you know, the stem cells or something else being able to regrow retinal tissue, which is what I need.
Do you mind if I ask about this?
Can I ask you a few questions?
Sure.
Did you have eyesight in both eyes previously, this degenerate over time?
Or is this, when you're born with this?
No, it was a retinal detachment that happened about 10 years ago.
And the first surgeon could not get it to stay up.
So it went through multiple surgeries.
And by the time I got the surgeon that was able to have the retina stay up,
it is so scarred.
There's really no vision.
Oh, man.
Yeah, it sucks.
Especially considering I was sitting in the first guy's office.
And he was like, well, we don't have your referral yet.
Because it was still just a tear at that point, but without being a full detachment,
which probably could have been fixed with laser,
but he's like, well, no, we need the referral,
so come back tomorrow,
but didn't really have until tomorrow.
Oh, so you've been living off the money of a lawsuit?
You should call Rob the Constitutional lawyer.
I think you can get some money out of this deal.
Maybe.
No good.
Maybe.
It sounds like you're a victim of incompetence, Darren.
Yes, I agree.
I think there's a lawsuit here.
Kind of, because when they went to do the surgery,
the surgeon that I finally got that I trust,
he had to request a special tool.
You know, basically they're sticking these things in your eye.
You get to the back of the retina.
He's like, because your eye is so big,
he needed a special large tool.
I'm like, well, I never heard this from the other guy.
Could he keep his large tool up?
Maybe.
The other guy couldn't.
Right.
That's exactly what it is.
That way you keep the eyes at a, you know, functioning.
It's a much preferred way to go.
Yeah.
So I just close one eye a lot.
Okay. But is it all gunky and weird looking?
A little, it's getting there because there was, there was oil in there, which is what kept the retina up.
And since there was no vision, he's like, well, we could take the oil out, but that's another surgery.
It's not going to hurt you.
And after a certain amount of years, it started scarring the cornea.
Wait a minute. Tell me you wear an eye patch.
No, I really should.
Yeah, iPatch is cool, man.
You're 6'5 iPatch, you know, you'll scare little children.
I'm just saying, if it were me, I'd be wearing an eye.
You know, I have a friend, and she lost her eye many years ago.
And she just pops it out.
In fact, she went back to her college reunion, and they were doing, like, you know, running around, you know, the old sorority sisters, like,
running around with a beer across an obstacle course or something,
and she tripped and fell and her eye popped out.
I mean, awesome.
Just awesome.
Nobody's going to forget that.
No.
No, I patch.
Eye patch is one.
And talk like a pirate down.
Right.
Yeah.
Ar.
If I wear the eye patch, everybody will know when they do a meetup,
who the guy with the iPatch.
Yes.
Yeah.
Nice.
Really, I remember the greatest thing about that whole thing was sending
in the no agenda note afterwards and DeVorek reading it.
And you could tell he was uncomfortable with the whole sticking needles in the eye.
And I was faced down for like 12 weeks.
Oh, that's right.
I remember that.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
And that was the worst part.
I mean, because if they would have just said, no, your eye screwed up.
I mean, I could have saved 12 weeks if still don't have vision.
You may as well just to let it go.
It was like 12 weeks of being faced down for really no payoff at the end, which.
Wow.
which kind of suck.
So donate to the one-eyed podcast.
JCD would be like, don't let this opportunity go.
You can call it the Patchcast.
Right.
There you go.
Yeah, I like that.
But there were a few more meetups here,
including the Fort Lauderdale 8-8-2026 JCD tribute.
This, of course, Andrew Horowitz.
And I can play this year.
I haven't heard this yet.
In the morning, everybody.
This is Scott All from the winning the week podcast.
And I just want to say we're having a good time over here at the Fort Lauderdale meetup in memory of John
There will never be another one and I wish you guys were here with us, but you're not
So we're gonna have fun without you in the morning
A hundred dollar Eric just want to thank you guys for setting us up. We really appreciate and we're with you guys on everything you're gonna go forward with
Thank you for all the history
In the morning, my name is Juliana. I'm here to celebrate John and everything he's given me I consider John I consider John
my friend and Adam and also Andrew everybody thank you for inviting me to your
likes I am Hans Matherie Sir Skibbidi and both the shows for ages and I've really
miss John and I hope everybody's doing well thanks for thanks for all the podcasts
I mean Clay Basewise I'm from Miami Sur Basewise and
I started listening to John in 2008, and I listened to No Agenda back then, and it was terrible.
Well, Wade, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That's not the way to do a meetup report.
No, it's great.
It's great.
Roll it, roll it.
Didn't listen again until 2012, and then it was a lot better.
So I do miss John.
The last 18 years giving me advice via podcast.
So John, we missed a lot, and all of respect and love to his family for everything.
For giving us so much of John's time.
I always miss you too, Adam.
All right.
Thank you.
on that. Yeah, my name, Ken, I discovered the No Agenda Show through Joe Rogan, actually, right after,
or right during the pandemic. And John was somebody that I just enjoyed his voice hearing it,
and he was always, to me, a voice of reason. I also had a lot of affection for him because he's
from California, and I'm from California originally. And, you know, I'm going to miss him
a lot and I hope he took that last Amtrak, Zephyr train to the next world.
So God bless him and may he rest in peace.
All right, you got it.
Paul Barron and I've been listening to Andrew and John for, gosh, many years.
Actually, John and I go way back even free.
And actually, when I found that John was doing a podcast with Andrew, I didn't know Andrew.
But a new John from the old days of Silicon Valley and, of course, a lot of his work with PC Magazine and had followed him around and, of course, found Andrew and then realized he lived in my hometown.
That was how we all kind of got together.
So that's kind of been my history.
I guess it's probably been about 10 years.
I know the DH Unplugged podcast is one of the oldest ones out there, so it's been a while since they got going.
Gosh, I think even the first time I had listened to John, it was when he was with Leo Laporte over on Twit.
And that was probably 15 years ago.
So it's been quite a while listening to him on DH Unplug.
I'm Chris Marble.
I've been listening to No Agenda since 2020 and to DH Unplug for about five and a half years.
What are you going to miss about John?
I mean, everything.
I feel like he's my grumpy spirit animal.
and his alternate way of looking at everything on planet Earth is going to be missed a lot for sure.
Oh, hi, my name is Leslie Wilbur.
I've been listening to No Agenda since about 2021, and I'm from Latsahatchee, Florida,
and I'm so excited that we're meeting here.
And, John, I'm going to miss you so much.
I think what I'm going to miss most is Usain Bullcrap.
Hey, it's Andrew.
And Jim.
And Jill.
and we're here at the NADHU meet up for JCD.
A lot of acronyms and symbolized terms right there,
but it's wonderful to have everybody here.
It's wonderful for this great day to honor such a great man
and all that he has meant to us.
And Mimi, the gang, Jay and J.C. and everybody want to say hello
and let you know that we're thinking about you.
A lot of people here are thinking about you as well.
We send in all of our deepest condolences and send a lot of love.
and healing prayers
to the whole family.
Sweet.
Andrew's wife.
And JCD will always be around in audio clips.
Do you find that weird that, you know,
your voice is going to go on because of doing as much content as you have over the years?
No, I love that.
I love that.
That's longevity.
You know, they used to say people who write will live on forever.
Right.
There's going to be our voices on CD-ROMs.
for generations to come.
USB sticks,
all kinds of stuff.
I think it's great.
I hope someone finds it.
There's so many copies,
which is always our ideas.
Like, copy it, put it anywhere you want.
Make sure it's out there.
You might learn something.
You might.
Might not.
Yeah, I've always been into
the old time radio stuff.
So it's like, this is the same thing
in 100 years.
People might find this.
And say, wow, you guys were screwed up.
Yeah, exactly.
We also have a second brief meetup report, this one from Springfield, Missouri.
Hey, this is Brickamania.
Here from the meetup in Springfield, Missouri at Beers Bar and Grill.
Here to remember John C. DeBorak.
What about that trade?
We got the ants.
This is your D'L Sabre.
Springfield, Missouri meetup.
Rest and peace, John, you'll be missed.
This is Corey in Springfield in the morning from the real hill country.
Yeah.
The real hill country.
Give me a break.
Uh-huh.
Maybe JCD did take the Zephyr over to Chicago,
and that explains all the rainstick action around here.
There you go.
We've had a little bit too much.
That's it.
We hope everybody that's having these meetups can send in a meetup report.
Please.
We do have a list of.
upcoming meetups as well.
We have tomorrow the pickleball meetup at 6 p.m.
Eastern at Rockaway Beach Pickleball Court in Queens, New York.
Also tomorrow, a drink in the honor of JCD, 7 p.m. Central at the draft
in Vestal in Watosa, Wisconsin.
Tomorrow, the titillating Tbilisi Trist tribute to JCD at the Buffalo
Bill into Bill C, Georgia.
And tomorrow we have the JCD
has left the building flight of the no agenda number 79
at 333 p.m. Pacific at the tap room
and restaurant in Riverside, California.
Also Saturday, the northern Silicon Valley
in memory of JCD at 33 Pacific Dvorak family
in attendance, it says, at the Pizzeria Violetta
in Prescott,
in Oakland, California.
Yeah, I think Mimi and the gang are going to be there.
Nice.
Well, there should be a good meetup report from that one.
Yeah, for sure.
Bring your cash in envelopes, people.
It's a widow.
Then on Sunday, the next show day,
the RIP, JCD at 2 p.m. Central at the Doghouse Lounge in Dubuque, Iowa.
And also on Sunday, the Red 33, Red 33, Jansi Memorial.
Thank you for your courage at 2.30.
Boston time at the Castle Island Brewery in Norwood, Massachusetts.
And the TMI evacuation zone toasted John meet up at 3.30 Eastern at Evergrain Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
And also on Sunday drinking to Buzzkill, a lot of drinks at 4.30 p.m. Pacific at the Alibi Room in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
And then beyond that, we have a whole lot of.
list from August 20th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 21st, Richmond, Virginia, the 22nd,
Fort Wayne, Indiana, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Reno, Nevada, and the 23rd Indianapolis,
Indiana, Benton, Arkansas.
And beyond that, pretty much a nice list still from Canada, New Mexico, Rhode Island,
Switzerland, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, New Jersey, Idaho, Arizona, North Carolina, the U.K.,
Idaho, Texas, the Fredericksburg, October 17th, and then Los Altos, California, October 24th, and
Tilburg of the Netherlands, October 24th. And if you want to have your own meetup, it's easy. Just
create it and go over to no agenda meetups.com. Well, that sounds weird. Wow.
Your Mac is crapping out. Your Mac is done. That is the Mac.
Here, I got you.
I'm going to refresh that page.
Much better.
That's weird.
That's weird.
Max never have audio problems.
Until now.
That's why I got off of Mac, man, for that very reason.
No problem until it is.
I got a couple of ISOs here sent in by the clip machine.
Keep the vaccines away from me, dude.
Oh, that's fitting for today's show.
That it is.
By the way, you know that study about the miscarriages?
Yes.
So we figured that out that it was really high.
And this was early on, I think, when the study came out,
and I remember talking about it, and I got so much flack.
you don't know what you're talking about.
It's bull crap.
That's not true.
And I had the exact same calculations.
And now, wait a minute.
Look at who is miscarrying and at what term.
And then it was probably a year later when people started to say, oh, yeah, I guess you were right.
It was a show deconstruction back in the COVID years.
And it was right.
And now Ronald Johnson is getting no attention for doing.
Nothing will happen about you.
No.
No.
No.
And you also understood lying with it.
And that's exactly what.
Well, if we make it all trimesters, it seems like a much lower number, even though we know they're all in the same trimester.
Unbelievable.
Organoids are alive.
Going to the well.
Beautiful.
And then, let's see.
I mean, I thought I had clipped just the here.
So one of those.
Larry, go ahead, you choose.
Choose what, Adam?
The ISO.
Oh, the ISO?
I'm not seeing a list of ISOs or anything.
We just played them.
You mean the one I like the best out of those?
I thought there was more to come.
I think the gummy just hit.
Larry's gummy just kicked in everybody.
The Papp's Blue Ribbon, of course.
Okay.
Yeah.
I agree.
It's a good one.
In honor of JCD, of course, with real,
it was probably with real JCD can opening.
Probably.
It's not that liquid death stuff.
You drink.
No.
So we've got that.
I guess, let's see if the audio still works now.
Duh.
It's working now.
Who knows what anger lurks in the heart of an Apple machine.
Yes.
That is going to do it for another edition of the best damn podcast in the
universe. Coming up next on the no agenda stream, we've got Nick the rat. Did anybody ever hire
that guy? He needs a job. No end of show mixes. So like the start of the show, we can use some
end of show mixes as well. And come up back on the Sunday. Maybe we'll have the one and only
clip machine on the show with us and we'll see how he sounds.
Yeah, tune in for Steve, the clip collector.
He knows how to bring the clips.
He does.
Coming to you from outside of Shirek, right here in FEMA region number five.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Darren O'Neill.
And from the pretentious Connecticut Shore, I'm Larry Blinder.
And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Fredericksburg, Texas.
In the morning, everybody, remember us at know-agentadentatownations.com.
I'm Adam Curry.
Until next time,
adios,
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