No Agenda - 1896 - "Just Dew It"

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

Sailors are Sissies. Adam Curry. It's Thursday, August 20 of 20, 26. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 1896. This is no agenda. And hello in the morning to you, Gitmo Nation. This is No Agenda, episode 1896. And it's been a bit stormy around here.

Trolls in the troll room in the morning to you. Man, John's passing that just so much changed. It's been exactly a month and a day. And wow, so much, so much to do, so much going on. I really, really appreciate what Darren and Larry did for the past six shows. Thank you guys so much for steering the ship. I've been just trying to figure out what to do. And honestly, prayed a lot about it.

And I'm currently keeping my eyes on Jesus. just to move forward and I figured out the best way to do anything with this show is to reach out to Gitmo Nation. And Gitmo Nation responded. And today, as a special guest on the show, in the morning to Sir Duceifer, night of the No Agenda Roundtable. Rob Doe. In the morning, everyone, it's great to be here. I got the text last night as I was getting out of the car and I already have a crazy day. So why not add more to that day?

Man, I appreciate you jumping on it. That's so awesome. Now, why don't you, for people who don't know Sir Ducifer, if you've never been to any of the Austin area or the Hill Country meetups, you've been a night for, gosh, I don't know, how long have you been a night? Let's see. It was the episode where you, I think it was a six-hour show and you guys gave the half-off deal for nights. Oh, wait, you're one of those discount nights. I'm a discount night.

But I have given more since then. But yes, I was a discount night. And that was a long, that was one of your first, I think, a good four and a half, five-hour show that you guys were reading notes from people. And, you know, I think that was the first of many shows like that. I believe that was either the 10-year anniversary or the 1,000th episode. I can't remember one of those two. Yeah. And so, you know, when I think about it, I remember putting.

together my PayPal link and everything. And I was sitting in an airport. We were on a trip with, at the time working for Info Wars. And I'm putting this together and I'm writing my note. And I'm like, oh, this note's got to be good because I'm going to be a night. And I put it all together and sent it off with literally like 15 minutes to spare before midnight. And, you know, and it's been, I've also, I've been a frequent visitor to. North Idaho. I've done two North Idaho sanity brigades. Oh, with Scott the Jew. Because they happen to be

exactly. They happen to be Sir Scott the Jew. They happen to be up in where I go snowboarding in the wintertime. So I'm always like, hey, I'm coming up. Can you do a meetup? Oh, nice. Oh, that's excellent. Oh, you know, a lot of people have said I should probably have Sir Scott the Jew

on the show. I guess that North Idaho show is doing okay. People are talking about it a lot. Yeah, I've even too, into it a couple times. Mainly just, you know, I'm, I kind of like Idaho. It's a pretty cool state, although they are getting, you know, the influx of California people out from going into Boise. But the rest of the state is really chill down-to-earth people. Yeah. I should probably warn everybody that every single clip, everything you hear today, every news report, everything, and I mean everything,

is directly related to the midterm elections. There is nothing that isn't being abused, isn't being taken apart, isn't being highlighted for the midterms. Everybody's got there, and of course the M5M is doing their best. I do have one question for you before we get into some clips. So we have an 11-year-old refrigerator,

like a kitchen aide. and so the ice maker stopped working and uh you know i did my own my little get the get the jemini AI app out so okay help me debug this you know and three hours later i've taken half the thing apart and then uh i don't know he should probably call a repair man so i call the yeah i set it up with i think it's sears and the guy comes out and he says well you know there's something you can need a new door, whatever. But he said, but you know, you could get a new one, but you really should go for the door.

I said, why? He said, because ever since right after COVID, all the refrigerators have changed to a new refrigeration system. And if you have, and this is what the Sears guy is telling me. He says, he should look it up. It's an upgrade. Well, no, the upgrade is they blow up. Oh, wow.

Yeah, that's quite a feature. He says, go look at it. added on YouTube. And it's, it's true. There's people with the doors blown off. There's, you know, the half of their kitchen has exploded. I'm like, what is this all? He said, no, man, if you're going to get a new one, get an old new one. So you hadn't heard about this? I had not. And when I moved, what's interesting, when I moved into my first house in Austin, we bought one in 99. And the people that were moving out were like, we're going to leave you the refrigerator. And they were like talking up this refrigerator. It looked just like, you know,

just a rectangle. It was a basic refrigerator. no ice maker, no water, no nothing. But he said, we had a repairman come out and look at it. And he said, this refrigerator is so well insulated. He's like, never replace it. Just keep fixing it. And we left it with the people that bought our house when we sold it. Apparently, that's a good one.

Yeah, that's the way to go. I just learned this. Looking it up on YouTube, sure enough, there's some lady, you know, oh, look at my the whole kitchen's been blowed up. So any refrigerator people out there and get Mo Nation, I'd love to know what is going on. We got to, now I love it.

My refrigerator just bleeds water from time to time. It'll just bleed it out from underneath. Like it's just like it's dying. It's like, and you're like, oh, we should have towels underneath it. And then finally my wife's like, we need a new fridge.

But we, I'm trying to think when we bought ours. I think it was, we didn't move till after 2021. So to the new house out in, out in driftwood. Now, and you're out in driftwood.

We might be, we might be due for explosion. You're out in driftwood with what, like 18 children you got out there? I mean, you got a whole compound, a whole family. Yeah. I got, I got four kids and each one of them, you know, two of them drive now, which is great. I guess if, you know, you like paying for car insurance. Exactly. And that's one of the, that is one of the things we make them do. We're like, you guys have to pay for your own car insurance and, you know, get a job. If you want to drive and you want a car, you know, you got to pay for your own car insurance and, you know,

We'll cover, you know, everything else. And, uh, but, you know, two are older and then two are younger. And the two younger ones, we, um, they're, they're, they're closer in age. And we call them the grunions. They are a boy and a girl. I have a younger girl. I've met some of them. And so I got three boys and a girl.

But yeah. Excellent. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. Um, every, every, you know, every adventure that you could have, you know, I've had with those kids. Tell me about it. A lot of fun.

Tell me. It never ends with the kids. So the first. first thing that's just, and I think Darren and Larry talked about this, if not on the previous show, maybe even the show before that, but I got some boots on the ground to talk about it. This is the unbelievable stinking Lincoln story. Welcome back, just about the bottom of the hour. So we've got some new reporting first here on MS now about the brutally demanding conditions

that service members are facing overseas as we wait for some resolution to the war with Iran. MS now spoke with a dozen family members of sailors and Marines aboard the U.S. U.S. Abraham Lincoln, who say they're extremely concerned about the morale, safety, and conditions on that ship. The 5,000-person crew has been at sea for nine straight months and engaged in combat operations since the beginning of the war against Iran all the way back in February. Many family members describe their kids or spouses telling them about non-operational toilets, moldy showers, laundry facilities that were broken for weeks, and extended periods with no hot for showering. The families say their loved ones have described food shortages and standing in line

at the ship's store for an hour or more, even while it often lacks basic supplies like toothpaste, soap, and deodorant. Oh, no. So when I heard this, I'm like, first of all, I remember going to Iraq in 2003 with the Dutch Marines. And I'll tell you, I remember the hygiene situation was not great. And it was a U.S. base. You know, the one toilet was working. There was one other one. If you had, you know, diarrhea, you go out of that toilet. And there's these bags that you take showers in. 50, 60 percent of them didn't have hot water. The rest were all kind of slimy and scummy. And, you know, it's like that's... You think if you're in the desert, you put a black bag, you put a black

bag somewhere to collect, you know, with water in it and it heats it up. That's what you do in you're camping. You know, you just, you switch to that mode. Well, and that's, that's kind of the point. It's like, you know, this is a war situation. And I'm like, what is going on with all this? So, of course, they, you know, this is obviously a war that is not popular, as if any war is popular. War, war of choice by President Trump. And obviously, everything's being misrepresented by our Secretary of War, Hegseth. Welcome in. Senate Democrats are demanding answers about conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. Interesting, only the Democrats are

I mean, there you go. Midterms right away. Carrier stationed in the Middle East. No one cares. No one cares. Richard Blumenthal says the carrier has been deployed for 250 days and has not come ashore in more than 200 days, setting a record.

There are reports of problems on board the ship and two U.S. officials confirmed to CBS News that a sailor from the USS Lincoln went overboard and was recovered safely. Defense Secretary Pete Hegeseth says the reports of conditions on board are completely misrepresented. Completely misrepresented.

We make sure that every ship, every crew, every captain has everything we can provide them at every single moment. Some deployments are longer than others, and I have more respect and gratitude for those sailors than anybody. What they do in those high seas and those austere conditions with less port calls, it's incredible. Americans don't understand what it's like to do that. So as someone who's not been on a ship like that, but been on long deployments, I feel it. I want them home as soon as everybody else. Do I want folks rotate it as quickly as possible? I want the best for them.

My commanders know that. Our service secretaries know that. The president expects that. And so to that crew and to all those crews, we're going to do everything we can for you. And we are so grateful for their dedication of that crew and others. they've held the line for the country and they've done a fantastic. So we got to, we have several.

Yeah. Well, he did a good job of shifting the focus there of, you know, thanking the troops instead of, you know, looking at what people were saying. I've seen some videos, though, of some of the soldiers. Like, look how dirty it is. I'm like, you know, I lived in apartments that were dirtier than that, bro.

It doesn't look that bad. You know, clean up after yourself. You know, like the toilet. Look, I've seen some. some toilets. You ever go to Burning Man? You open up one of these porta-potties. You will see a mountain of feces popping out of the toilet. That's how gross it is. And I didn't see anything like that in any of these videos. So to me, if it's not even up to the Burning Man standard of grossness, you know, you could probably survive. So we got a boots on the ground from one of our naval aviators,

who I know personally, so I take this at high confidence to be true. Here's what he says. First, the longer you're in the Navy, the better you get it complaining. everyone complains on deployment, which makes sense. Some complain because of issues experienced and some complain just for the sake of complaining. Bottom line, if you complain and have a legitimate concern, try to have an address at the correct level in your COC instead of wanking to your family and then them taking it directly to M5M. Keep in mind, nobody actively serving on the Lincoln has any context of what the situation actually is.

it's all hearsay and some videos and some posts. Second, every sailor aboard has a mailing address. You can very easily mail them, whatever they require. Ship store has a very limited selection of products to choose from. Very simple to go to Walmart, procure the items. The sailor actually wants mail it to him. You can also mail food if you want, so the complaint of running out of things such as soap and toothbrushes

could be easily overcome with the sailor. Simply ask his or her family to mail the stuff to him. Third, deployments. are the opposite of fun. Like, yeah, this is a war situation. Sure, after all is said and done, you have some good stories and experiences to reflect on fondly, but being on a huge boat for months,

for months on end, doing the same job every single day, regardless of weather or time of day is monotonous. Flight operations on a flight deck is also an extremely dangerous and unforgiving job. Some people just can't adapt to that kind of environment. You can't just up and quit on the spot like you can with a civilian job.

so I'd imagine some folks feel trapped. Female sailors can get a free trip back home more easily than male sailors. All they have to do is get pregnant and boom, you're on your way back home. The male sailors can't get pregnant, can't just quit without having any repercussion. So I imagine the person who caused the man overboard was looking for a way to get back home as soon as possible or had some pretty significant mental issues going on or a combination of both. Man overboard drills happen all the time to test the crew's ability to quickly determine who is the missing person so they can positively identify who they're looking for once they locate

that missing person. These, he's like he's writing a report for me. These drills are a huge pain in the ass, but when it happens for real, the drills demonstrate their value. And then fourth, unlivable conditions.

Showers and toilets break all the time. Being on a warship and a war zone is not like living at a Marriott resort. Much better than being in a tent or a foxhole, though, because your rack is always dry. and you're not under threat of enemies storming into your living quarters. The ship's company completes a rigid cleaning schedule daily and is responsible for the maintenance, upkeep of the equipment, and the spaces.

Is there likely mold somewhere on a shower curtain or essentially a floating city? Sure. Is the crew responsible for this? Yes. Everyone can do better, but this issue is best addressed at the deck plate leadership level and not broadcast all over the news.

So he says, this is exactly what we started the show with. This is just to make, make Trump look bad. The war's no good. No wars are good, obviously. And actually, this was... Much ado about nothing.

Pretty much. I mean, you know, we have to have respect for our men and women in uniform because, man, you know, it's a tough gig. And certainly for nine months, you know, this is not easy. Here's, I think this has some got some veterans. Well, I've got a boots on the ground report. Okay. I got a boots on it from a veteran. He was in Vietnam as my father-in-law, actually, Earl, who's listening now.

I was in Vietnam for eight months, slept in a punt tent for three months during the rainy monsoon season. Period. Sailors are sissies. CBS News, senior national security correspondent Charlie Daggeta, joining us now. So, Charlie, what do we know about the conditions on the USS Abraham Lincoln? Yeah, Juliet, it's been described as austere. So these sailors and Marines have been at sea for a number of months. We'll get into that in a moment.

But where the alarm bells started ringing was... Hold on. Hold on. Who describes a giant ship as austere? Like, CBS News. Like, no. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, my God. From the parents of these sailors and Marines who started saying, well, you know, they've been there for a long time. They may not be getting the kind of rations or food that they want. More importantly, they're worried about the mental health of these individuals.

because I want to point out that when you have an aircraft carrier like that, and I've been on that aircraft carrier, the Abe Lincoln, when you have it at sea, it's a different thing when it's at sea and it's at war, because this aircraft carrier was supposed to go to the Pacific and it had. It then turned right to go to the Middle East. It found itself in the middle of an active kinetic conflict zone. It has come under attack repeatedly defending those attacks. But when you're in a conflict zone like that where you've got these fighter jets taking off from the deck,

you're looking at 12, 18-hour days constantly pushing these out. And that is going to have a fatigue element on the airframes themselves, the aircraft carrier, and the personnel. And that's what's raised alarm bells among, again, the parents, the families of these sailors and Marines on board saying this is a long deployment. it's wearing down on the individuals who are part of that deployment. And that's what rang alarm bells. So the military times had a report that one individual had tried to jump overboard. As we reported and we confirmed, there was a rescue of somebody who had gone overboard. We're not inferring that that was intentional, but there was a rescue there.

And that is why we're paying attention to the Abraham Lincoln. Now, we spoke to the Navy. The Navy said the Marines and sailors on board are fully equipped, whatever they need to continue these operations. But again, I have to drill down. This is not a normal deployment. This isn't an aircraft carrier at sea. This is an aircraft carrier that's currently engaged in a war against Iran. Okay.

Reasonably fair. So they bring in a couple of veterans. Joining me now from Honolulu, Hawaii is retired U.S. Navy Captain Carl Schuster. He's the former director of operations at the U.S. Pacific Command's Joint Intelligence Center Pacific. Captain, great to see you. You are a veteran with decades in the Navy. What's your initial reaction when you hear that any ship has been at sea for more than 250 days? I think it's exceptionally difficult for the crew.

I never did more than 90 days at sea, and I can tell you the minute you pass the 60-day mark, you're feeling tired of the deployment. It's not unusual. Certainly in my day, we had one or two guys try to jump overboard at about the 50 to 60 day mark. Being at sea on a carrier, particularly in a stressful conflict situation, it's very intense. It places a very heavy psychological stress on you and physical, particularly for the guys in the propulsion spaces and the guys on the flight deck. Their work is very intense, very hard, and very stressful. And life, in some cases, very dangerous.

And everyone eventually reaches a breaking point. So we shouldn't condemn these guys. We should thank them for their service and give them all the help we can to get through the stress and situations they felt. And unlike your dad, Earl, ITM, Earl, that was a crazy war where it was like, what are we doing? And this is, this is a war, the way I see it, to reset the oil structure of the entire world. It's not even really for us. And to reset the pricing of oil. But it's a real war. And, you know, there's real danger involved. And all we're talking about is toothpaste and soap and it's the oddest thing. And of course, the president weighed in when he was asked about it. Go ahead.

Mr. President, is there enough food on the USS Lincoln? Yeah, it is. That was a CNN fake report. The Lincoln has been out there for a period of time, good period of time, but over the years we've had them out there much longer. I was at a group meeting, and an admiral came up to see me over the weekend, and it was at a big group, and he happened to be an admiral retired. He said, I've been on ships, sir, out there much longer than that, sir, and I know people on the Lincoln, they say it's beautifully maintained and beautifully taken care of.

And other people went out and they found out to be true. It was fake news reporting from CNN. There you go. It's a big, beautiful ship. It's fake news. And how long is too long? Well, no, that ship is moving. No, they're not.

That ship is moving right now, or very shortly, and it's being replaced with another very similar ship. No, no, no, not nearly long enough. Thank you, everybody. Not nearly long enough. And here is, we need them out there longer. Yeah, here's the Navy Secretary. Families of service members from USS Abraham Lincoln Strike Group are voicing their concerns over mental health and safety conditions aboard the aircraft carrier. It's after multiple reported attempts by crew members to jump overboard.

The USS Lincoln has been deployed for nearly nine months. months after it was redirected to support U.S. operations with the war with Iran. Yesterday, President Donald Trump answered questions about the extended deployment. That ship is moving right now, or very shortly, and it's being replaced with another very similar ship. No, no, no, not nearly long enough. Acting Secretary of the Navy, Hongkow, releasing a statement, too, saying the media has tried to paint the soldiers on board as victims.

saying, quote, there's no question our young men and women have been pushed to their limits, but they have never broken. It's clear knowing the whole story, our force and their families are not victims. They are the epitome of American strength and resilience. Now, of course, I'm here in Fredericksburg, home of Admiral Nimitz, so I can't really get on board with all sailors or sissies. My grandfather was a lieutenant commander in the South Pacific. He was gone for years. He ran one of those crappy, horrible. bases on the islands. So respect to all of them.

But this is just about making Trump look bad, making the war look bad, which it is. No doubt about it. Wars are no good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And anything you can find to augment that. And I go back to these videos that they sent out. The toilets looked a little dirty.

The showers looked maybe there's some mold in the corners. But, you know, I got mold in the corner of my shower at home. And it's not the end of the world. I'm not taking a shower at your place, Rob. What did you bring? Well, it's just a little bit in the corner. Yeah, sure. What did you bring?

You brought all kinds of clips. You know what? I brought all kinds of clothes, but I just found one. When hearing about all these, you know, people jumping off, I'm going to send you this and we could play a couple of these other clips. And I don't really have anything about the war necessarily. Yeah, I'm looking through my. Yeah, but we, there's this.

this Marine Drill Instructor video. And it's this marine drill instructor that kind of looks like the actress who became an actor who's real small. I forget her, I forget her name, but she played one of the X-Men at one point. And this drill instructor looks like a real skinny and talking about if you feel bad, you know, let us know if we're mean to you. And this is the Marines. This isn't the, I'm sending it to you now. I don't know if you'll get this. But if you do get this, I just put a gibberish headline in there,

but I just send it to the Fubar email. I didn't put the whole thing out there. So no one else will spam you. But when you hear this drill instructor talk, you're like, oh my God, this is this what's, this is the mindset that's in our military. And it's, you know, social justice warrior out the wazoo. And, you know, I have nothing against, I think I love our men and women in military. I'm glad they're out there doing this stuff.

But there is such a thing as too much whining. And, you know, I think older people put up with a lot more because we didn't have all the comforts that people have now. You know, when we were younger, it was drink out of the water hose. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't, you're going to have filtered water and here's your ice. How old are you, Rob? How old are you, Rob? How old are you? I'm 52, so I've been around, I've been around the 80s and 90s.

You know, I know my way around there very well. Elliot Page, is that who was? And, you know, life wasn't. Elliot Page? Elliot Page. There we go. Elliot Page. So this drill instructor looks like Elliot Page.

And I just sent you the MP3. I don't know if it came through or not. I got it. But I mean, just play a little bit of that. With firewens, 80, zoom to a force of agent, is it to me? And I set the stage for me. What am I hearing here?

All right. What's your what your look. If you were to watch this video, it is a rail thin. I believe it's a female. I can't tell if it's a female or male because the chest is very flat, very skinny. And with the, with the Marine drill sergeant hat on, walking back and forth talking to recruits, telling them if they've, if you've been mistreated, you will report it. We're not going to touch you. We will treat you with respect. I mean, the exactly opposite of what you've seen in every other movie. Um, or, or, or. heard reports about when people go to boot camp. You know, you're a maggot. You're going to, we're going to build, they call it basic training because they build you from the ground up. You know, they're like, we're going to teach you how to wipe your butt. We're going to teach you how to walk. We're going to teach you how to make your bed. And the way this is, when I hear, when I hear these sailors bitch about their ship, I think of this marine drill instructor, which this video came out in the beginning of August. So it's just now, you know, it's been circulating for less than a month. But you're hearing this. It's like, you will report.

If you thought I had mischeted you, I expect you from a person that's addicted to your serious commander. From you? Well, you know, it's, and it's really, I don't think it's the sailors aren't complaining. It's the families who are, and have we seen many of them? Or is it more just like I spoke to some families and here's what they say? That's what it sounded like to me. Well, and it's anonymous, it's anonymous, you know, photos. It's like point of view.

Here's the toilet. Here's the shower. How can we live like this? You know, and I think one of them showed. a backed up toilet at one point. Because I started looking through these when they started coming out. I'm like, well, let's see how bad this is. Because I've seen some bad toilets in my life.

And I'm like, okay, this isn't that bad. I'm sure it sucks being, you know, hit with drones and hit with missiles and whatever else is going on there. And I don't think we're getting the real reports on that. And I think that's what might be going on. The stress of that combined, you know, these people are, you know, reporting back and their families are going, oh, you know, we got to do something about this. we got to go to the media.

And, you know, I think it's probably partisan at, you know, the people that are complaining. Well, let's check in with the war itself as there have been a few developments. Nice, nice Nat Pop, by the way. Good job, guys. Oh, yeah. Unable to put an end to the Iran war, President Trump today threatened to expand it. Issuing a blunt and profane warning to a U.S. ally, Oman, saying he would bomb the expletive out of them if they interfered with U.S. objectives in the critical Strait of Hormuz. Would you say you're out of patience with Oman, a strategic...

No, I don't think they behaved very well, but we'd handle them very easily, just like we do others. The threat comes as ship traffic through the strait is at a virtual standstill. This comes as U.S. military officials are scrambling to respond to a Trump social media post over the weekend that condemned planned joint exercises with South Korea. In the post which blindsided U.S. military leaders, Trump cited his, quote, very good relationship with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un and called the drills inappropriate and hostile toward North Korea and said they would be scaled back. And today, he suggested he's recently been in contact with Kim Jong-un. Kim Jong-un has always treated me with great respect. Though it's widely believed North Korea has provided military support to Iran.

And today had been the deadline for the... Those guys are busy. They're providing military support to Iran. They're providing military support to Ukraine. The North Koreans, ma'am, they're all over the place. They're all over the place. North Koreans are everywhere. Everywhere.

Though it's widely believed North Korea has provided military support to Iran. And today had been the deadline for the U.S. and Iran to finalize a nuclear agreement and come to a permanent end of the conflict. But, David, that agreement never came. close to happening and there is no end in sight to the war. The Iranians today said that that peace deadline, quote, is no longer relevant. So there is a shift in strategy and luckily we're bringing out the general patent on the downlow to do it all. New CNN reporting says Trump told top administration officials today to stop conversations with Iran.

According to a U.S. official, a source says White House officials have recently communicated to political allies that they're shifting their strategy, going from hammer Iran, ASAP, to strangle them over time. Now, the sounds of silence may not fall pleasantly on the ears of Republicans who are growing quite impatient with Trump's unpopular war. They are worried. It will hurt them in the... Which war has been popular, Jake Tapper? Is there a war that has ever really been popular? Like, yeah, this is a good war. Now, the sounds of silence may not fall pleasantly on the ears of Republicans. who are growing quite impatient with Trump's on popular war.

They are worried it will hurt them in the midterms, especially because just yesterday, Trump says, his administration had established a back channel with Iran. Iran denied that any back channel talks with the United States were taking place. As for Trump's claim, today about no talks happening, that's not what Trump's son-in-law, son-in-law, special envoy Jared Kushner, told Fox just yesterday. I will say that the conversations between the U.S. government

and different areas of the Iranian government at all areas is probably more robust than it's maybe ever been. And so there's been a lot of good dialogues, which I think is very, very helpful, right? We are having very positive and active conversations. Then there's the messy situation in the Strait of Hormuz. Trump also wrote on Truth Social, quote, the naval blockade remains in full force. In effect, the Hormuz Strait is open and operating. All water mines have been removed or detonated, unquote.

We've heard Trump say this many times before, despite, slow, lagging, ship traffic, and Iran asserting otherwise. In fact, global oil prices are now at their highest level since July, as hopes of a resolution for this conflict fade away. That said, it does appear as though the United States is gaining some control over the straight. The 60-day deadline to finalize a peace deal expired yesterday. So now the future overall is in limbo. I'm just going to play this clip again from,

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. Yeah, before you do that, Axios, who seems to be like, you know, the back channel to the president at this point, they have an article at U.S. conducting stealth operation transports through Hormuz about 10 million barrels a day they're getting through. So there is something to that where they are still, you know, getting oil through, even though that seems to be, you know, the news doesn't want to report that at all. Well, except, and so odd that Axios is now a back channel to the White House. Oh, I know. That was unexpected. Yeah. Who owns that outfit?

Who owns Axios? He did something there. I don't know how. You know, I think we looked at it before, or you looked at it before on the show, because it was happened a few months ago where Trump started dibling out information through Axios. And maybe we should ask Cox Enterprises. Let me ask the. 70% stake.

Cox from like the cable company Cox? Yeah, Cox Enterprise. Yeah, that's what it looks like. Cox Enterprise, a large family and conglomerate. Well, that would make sense because they owned a bunch of those TV stations that were more or less, you know, in red states. Got it. So that kind of would make sense. So I think you're absolutely right, although the numbers differ.

But the whole, well, actually, here's the, here's the latest on the numbers coming through the straits. The war with Iran is in its sixth month. and oil is still struggling to move through the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump's tried bombing Iran into submission. Now he's pivoting to economic warfare. In a lengthy post, he announced in all caps, quote, the most crushing economic operation ever taken against any country. And he called on allies to stand with the U.S. to unleash economic deeday, as he called it on Iran.

With us to talk about this as NPR international correspondent Aya Patrawe. Good morning, Aya. Good morning. And so this crushing economic operation that Trump posted about, do we know what this would look like? I mean, more of the same sanctions, the existing blockade, and even more pressure now. He's calling on allies around the world, countries around, to join him in this isolation of Iran. And we've seen maximum economic pressure before by President Trump. You'll recall this was his policy the first time he was in office.

But this is a step beyond because now there is that naval blockade in place. And it is blocking Iran from being able to export its oil. And this pivot from bombings to blockade comes as AAA says gas prices in the U.S. are up 30% on average from a year ago. So in many states, people are paying a dollar or more per gallon than they were. Diesel for trucks and jet fuel for flying are even higher. Now, that is because of Iran's chokehold on the Strait of Hermuz since the beginning of this war. Windward maritime intelligence tracking says five million barrels of oil a day did exit the strait on average per day in July. but that is a fraction of the 20 million barrels that were going through before the war.

And this is what no one reports on is the whole. So I'm going to go, let's say it's seven and a half, but 20 used to go through there. Axios reports 10. That's probably padded from the White House. This is NPR, I think. They say five. But there's another seven going through the pipelines. Every single one of these Arab countries has completely,

bypassed the straight. They've, they already had pipelines. They're fast-tracking new pipelines. And this has always been the strategy. Here's Besson. At Treasury, we did economic fury. What goes little publicized is, you know, on the kinetic side, air force is wiped out, Navy's wiped out, a big portion of their missiles, more importantly, their missile production. On the economic side, We have them by the throat, and they've got 150, 180% food inflation, not able to pay the troops. So I think shortly, maybe even today, tomorrow we are going to see an agreement 30, 60-day ceasefire, and a strait will be open. Energy prices should come down. There are some who've speculated the straight will never go back to being the way it was before.

What would you say? I would say, I would take, I think they're saying that in a doomsday sort of way. I would say it in another way. The strait is never going back to the way it was because the Iranians have used or tried to use it as a choke point. What we are going to see over the next two years, the strait's going to become irrelevant. It is going to become just another body of water. And I would say that more than 50 or 70 or 7. 70% of the energy that moves through the strait now is going to go through underground pipelines.

There it is. There it is. I can't wait to go wake surfing in the Straits of Hormuz. They find Texas tradition. I love wake surfing. Yeah, exactly. My favorite things to do in Texas. And there's more oil.

I mean, it's not exactly the same oil, but it's important oil. Venezuela's energy leaders say the country is open for business. This week, U.S. oil. company signed some of the first deals with Venezuela in close to two decades. This comes eight months after the U.S. seized Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro. Houston Public Media's energy reporter Natalie Weber has been reporting on this and she joins us from Houston. Good morning, Natalie. Good morning. So I recall that after the U.S. captured... What was that? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. So I recall that after the U.S. captured Maduro,

companies were hesitant to get involved with Venezuela, but now they're involved. Give us a sense of what's in these deals. Yeah, so the Dallas Bay's Hunt Oil Company entered into a contract to expand the country's oil and gas production. And then SLB, formerly known as Slumbergé, a Houston Oil Field Services Company, also signed an agreement for oil exploration in Venezuela. And Venezuela's oil minister, Paula, now announced this deal on state-run media. These deals were signed on Tuesday. day while Venezuelan leaders were in Houston for an energy conference. And I attended the conference in Houston where I now spoke this week. She says the country has made changes to its laws that will make it easier for foreign

companies to invest in Venezuela. What she's saying right now is that the country's agreements with U.S. companies offer a chance to evaluate opportunities for investment in Venezuela. Now, at this time, we don't really know how much these deals are worth. hasn't been made public yet. And then we have another oil gateway reopening or finally opening. It's sort of like the zombie pipeline project that will never die. Donald Trump is raising the prospect of reviving the ill-fated Keystone XL pipeline.

And Jatine De Silva, the former CEO of the Canada Energy Regulator, says with the U.S. President backing it, the zombie pipeline could have a new life. If the U.S. President puts his weight in the weight of his office behind it, it is possible to see this project move forward. Trump posted on Truth Social, the great Keystone XL pipeline long ago killed by sleepy Joe Biden may be awoken from the grave.

I thought it was actually a welcome comment because it actually adds potentially some leverage to Mr. Carney that he might not otherwise have had. Dennis McConaughey is a former Canadian energy executive. He says the long dead pipeline could help the prime minister secure a new trade deal with the U.S.

The value to Canada of producing more heavy oil over the next decades is the driving force economically behind this. And when Trump signaled it last night, again, it underscores the fact that the Americans recognize the value of that trade and would want more of it if they could get it. I think that's the whole center of this new deal that the president's working on with Canada. It's all about this. Well, he did a three-day tariff on him to get him. think to come to the table for that.

We're going to do a three-day tariff is what you do. And we'll see what happens. And I love how the press is like, oh, it's the ill-fated. It's a zombie pipeline. It's this terrible thing. Pipelines are how you want to move things, honestly, because one, it's self-contained. You know where it's going to be. You don't have a bunch of trucks on the road.

Right. Which could, you know, especially with some of our truck drivers now, you know, who are from unsuspecting backgrounds. They could be crashing into people. So I think that's the way to go. And a lot of these things, everything has sensors on it now. So they know when it's leaking. They know where it's leaking. They know, you know, they could dispatch a team to fix it.

It's not like it's going to be sitting in the wilderness for 10 years, you know, gloving oil out onto the ground. Yeah, leaking away. You know what's crazy. You know, they're not letting that happen. Tina and I have been watching the West Wing. We started an episode. Actually, we started with the pilot. And when you watch this, I think we're in season four or five at this point.

I don't know. And it just, it remains kind of interesting. But it's clear, you know, this is clearly a Democrat, White House. And all of the things they discuss, almost everything are things that President Trump is doing. But then it was seen as heroic. Oh, but they're discussing it like they might fix it, but they're not really going to fix it.

Yeah. I mean, the whole thing is just, it's crazy. Like even with the, you know, the whole FCC, we're going to take away your license. I think I have actually. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

So there's a moment in the West Wing where the three television, the big networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, they come in the White House and I say, yeah, we're not going to cover the, the conventions. We're going to do maybe 45 minutes. We'll do the balloon drop. We're not going to cover them wall to wall like we have before.

And so there's this, actually, Ron Silver plays a consultant. And he talks to Leo, who's the president's, what do you call it? Chief of Staff. And this is Martin Sheen, who's the president, right? Martin Sheen's the president. Yeah. Actually, he talks to him not, he talks to, what's his face? The other guy.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. And, and he, and the guy goes back to the networks and he says, you get these licenses for free. You're not acting in the best interest. You are colluding together. I'm going to have the FCC take your licenses away. And that, and at the time was like, yeah, that's how you deal with him. And now it's like, oh, no, biased. You just don't like them reporting negatively on you.

it's the exact same thing. Well, it is. And I think if Obama or Biden was like, we're going to take these licenses away, they're playing too much white supremacist content on these networks. You know, people are like, yes, yes. That's what, you know, the news, they be, oh, for it.

Oh, there's white supremac, which I have a couple of those clips. But I do have a clip. You're talking about the war. And when we get out of this, I think a good place to leave is Trump talking about leaving NATO. I think that's a big, that could be a really big deal for just that access over there in Western Europe.

And they think they have carte blanche protection from us. And if Trump pulls out of that, which I don't think will have happened, I think it's just a bunch of bravado. But he's saying it. No one said it since NATO has been formed that we're going to get out of NATO. He's the only person actually say that he could get out. I think that NATO made a terrible mistake. when they wouldn't send a small amount of military armament,

when they wouldn't send just even acknowledge what we were doing for the world and taking on Iran. I never considered it very risky, but war is always risk. You know, a lot of strange things happen in war that are very bad, but I didn't consider it. I know how great I'm with. the greatest military by far anywhere

there was nobody close. I didn't think there was a big risk, but there's always surprises with war. They could be very bad surprises. I mean, wars are lost. It should be won. Many wars are lost. You think a country is going to wipe somebody out and they end up getting wiped out themselves, so it's always risky.

But I think a tremendous mistake was... Wow, that's actually... What he says right there is accurate and O'Courns. I mean, wars are lost. It should be one. Many wars are lost. You think a country is going to wipe somebody out and they end up getting wiped out themselves.

So it's always risky. But I think a tremendous mistake was when NATO just wasn't there. They just weren't there. It's going to make a lot of money for the United States because we spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on NATO. Hundreds of protecting them. And we would have always been there for them.

But now based on their actions, I guess we don't have to be, do we? Well, what he said there? I've been saying for months is an actual possibility, certainly with what's going on between Ukraine and Russia. This happened last night. Overseas now to Ukraine launching a massive drone assault on Russia. This is one of the largest aerial attacks since the four-year-old war began. Let's get right to ABC's Lama, Hassan. Lama, what more are you learning tonight? Yeah, Lindsay, this was a massive attack, the Russian Defense Ministry, saying it destroyed more than 800 Ukrainian drones overnight.

Moscow's mayor, adding that some 600 drones were detected heading toward the Russian capital, shooting down a third of them, but still at least seven people across Russia were killed. Wildberries, which is Russia's largest online retailer, hit again one of its massive warehouses on fire. Russia fighting back, sending a wave of drones, killing at least five people, destroying a market in the Ukrainian capital Kiv. The Ukrainian defense minister believes their ballistic missiles will be able to reach Russian territory in three to six. months. So there seems to be no end in sight to the fighting, Lindsay. What is clear is that these later strikes are a dramatic escalation in this war. You know, Ukraine is not a member of NATO. And they're, and they're really, they are just being put on the front line by the, you know,

the Europeans and the UK. And now Moscow is saying, you know, hey, you know, you UK guys, this is not going to fly. Moscow has threatened Britain with consequences. Following confirmation, the UK has supplied Ukraine with drones that have been used to hit targets deep inside Russia. As we've been hearing, Keev is launching an increasing number of drone attacks across Russia, particularly on infrastructure targets. Some reports suggest this is the first time British technology has been used to hit Russian targets. This follows newspaper reports for the weekend that for the first time drone technology from the UK,

was used in these strikes against Russia, confirmed from sources to the BBC. Now, some of those reports talked about strikes on oil facilities in southern Russia, Yaroslav-Near Moscow. What the Russian embassy here in London has put out as a statement saying that London is deliberately opting for escalation in Ukraine. So the UK was trying to contain Russia, inflict maximum damage on it by a proxy, and those actions will inevitably carry consequences for which London will have. have to answer. Now, in response, we've heard from the Ministry of Defence here. They have put out

their own statement. The Ministry of Defense spokesperson saying Britain stands shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine. It will continue to supply Ukraine with the equipment it needs to defend itself against what they say is Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. Russia should be in no doubt about the resolve of the government to stand against Russian aggression. And that's also a message that Andy Burnham, the Prime Minister, delivered his first foreign visitor here when he became Prime Minister a few weeks ago, was president to let's give Ukraine, and he said he would stand shoulder to shoulder with him. Yeah, man, when you hit the Amazon of Russia, that's when people start to lose it. Do you imagine if they hit Amazon in America, we go crazy?

And you're getting updates. Yeah, your package done blow it up. And that's it. And it'll be another three to six weeks. You know, going back to what Trump was saying, you know, a country thinks they're going to annihilate somebody and they end up losing. You know, you could look at that. Is he talking about the U.S.? Or is he talking about Israel? Because Israel kind of wanted this war more than anybody, it seems like. And they might end up, they might end up be on the back end of the stick of this at the end, especially with, you know, I guess it was Benjamin Nanyahu was like screamed out of parliament.

They were shouting him out. And so there's definitely turmoil going on everywhere. Yeah, here's the latest. The United States and Syria have condemned Israeli airstrikes on a military airport in northern. Syria. The runway at Abu al-Dahur Airport, that's located in the eastern Idlib countryside, has been damaged. Multiple fighter jets were heard in that area, that's ahead of the strikes, and no injuries have been reported. But in a statement, the U.S. Special Envoy for Syria, that's Tom Barak, said we're deeply concerned that the confirmed Israeli airstrikes on Abul-Dahur airbase constitute an

unnecessary escalation that doesn't advance regional stability. The Al-Sharahara government has not either adopted a predatory posture nor maintained proxy forces. It has in fact repeatedly indicated a preference for de-escalation with Israel. Yeah, I think Trump's dropping support for Israel. He's like not even talking about him. He's not endorsing, yeah, he's not endorsing Netanyahu either. When are the election? When are the elections? When are the elections? I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. All I know is October 19th is the refer referendum for Alberta to start the process for independence. We'll take you guys. Come on. We'll take you. We're happy to have you.

Exactly. I mean, the Keystone Pipeline is all American now. It just kind of goes up in there. And then we just, you know, are giving oil to everybody cheap. Breaking news, FBI raids homoverick Swallowswell. Did you see that? No. Oh, no. What do you got? You got a quad screen up there, Rob? What are you looking at? And I didn't hear any of that. I don't see it. have, it came out at 2.13 p.m. Eastern. So just less than an hour ago, federal agencies seized electronic devices of former Democratic Rupp Swallow as well. I call him Swallow as well. I call him Swallow as well. But at the San Francisco Airport on Saturday. And then rated his home in Washington, D.C. the next day as part of an ongoing probe on sexual assault on sexual. I see nothing about what the Chinese spy or any of that stuff. It's that's sexual assault. That's how they always get you. Of course.

It's never, it's never anything real. It's always, when I say real, it's nothing like, it's always sex stuff. Exactly. It's never about anything that they could have done, you know, for the, against the country. What I find interesting is that the whole, the whole Israel narrative has just kind of disappeared. You know, certainly here in Texas, but if you just look online, I don't know, maybe it's only my algal, but all I see is Muslims, Muslims, the Muslims, Islam, Sharia law. And everyone else is dry, except for talking. He's still behind the times.

He's still wallowing away. And I got this clip from Judge Knapp, Napolitano, with, I would say, is it the, it's the Blumenthal kid, I think? I mean, moaning about the same thing. This was the decoy flight. Hey, everyone, Judge. No, Max Blumenthal. Here for Judging Freedom.

Today is Thursday, August 13th, 2000, 26. Max Blumenthal joins us now. Max, a pleasure, as always, thank you for joining us. Has Israel manipulated Donald Trump yet again? What is the backstory on the so-called Israeli intelligence about the so-called Iranian plans to attack Air Force One? Well, if we look at this story, we can kind of see a microcosm of how the entire war on Iran unfolded. This is why the U.S. is still imposing a protracted war on Iran right now, primarily in economic war, which is devastated the global economy. And, you know, asking anyone in real estate in the United States about interest rates right now, and it goes directly back to this war.

So why did this happen? It's because Israel manipulated a demented intellectually unchallenged, intellectually challenged, intellectually challenged. amoral, deeply corrupt president into waging this war over a period of years. So, okay, so Israel manipulated them into waging an economic war? Because that makes sense. So everyone is now finally talking in the mainstream media about this campaign of manipulation. Everyone knows now that Trump was hidden in a food, kind of like a food cart, sneaking out to a decoy flight in Ankara Turkey. It's a contortion.

Around the NATO summit, which is like a scene out of one of these Leslie Nielsen naked gun movies. Can you imagine him like huddled in there, like sweating and, you know, orange sweat pouring off his face. Okay. You're behind, boys. That's what I'm imagining. Yeah, catch up with an area.

And we know that's not what happened, you know. But the memes were funny of Trump. peeking out of the food cart. Those were, those were pretty funny. But you know, that's not how it happened. Well, it reminded, it reminded me of, um, deaf leopard. In, I don't know, 90, maybe 90 or 91,

Def Leopard did a tour in the round. And, um, okay. MTV sent me out to go cover him in, man, I want to say Atlanta. The Omni, I think that, yeah, I think it was the Omni in Atlanta. I think so. I can't remember what it was. And they were in the round.

So, you know, there's audience on all sides. And the way they got the band, you know, from, you know, the dressing room into, you know, underneath the stage was in, you know, these big laundry carts. And so before the lights went down, you just see these folks, you know, just push along these laundry courts and the guys got out. And that's kind of how I imagine this, the way, you know, the way the man. memes were working. It's like, yeah, just hiding him there. But, you know, the press is mad. That's what they did with David Lee Roth. Well, here's another story. And the Edemman's Smile Tour, they get him from one side, from the stage to the back to ride the surfboard across the audience. He rides his giant

surfboard. And that's how they, they had him in a road case. They, you know, but it was a big road case. He probably had a seat in it. Probably had, you know, some Jack Daniels and a fan and whatnot. And they pushed him over there. And, and, uh, and then he. And then he floated across the crowd on a surfboard. And, of course, the press was mad. While Steve, I was playing an amazing solo. The press was mad because they were on the plane and this is more midterm. Oh, yeah.

Because, you know, he wanted Marco Rubio to die. Marco Rubio knowingly goes on the flight, which was supposedly going to be targeted by IRGC operatives with manpads, according to a certain tip the CIA received, along with all the Trump staffers we know. and disdain. And they are all going to be sent to their deaths, according to this tip, except for Donald Trump. And what's that woman, Natalie Harp, who escorts him everywhere, who's 35. He chose her to survive with him on his own. And he chose Hollywood Hegsseth.

And Pete Hegset, yeah, because he's the ultimate guest man, who apparently had just lied to him about munitions, but he still chose him to live. That's a good one. Hollywood Heg Seth, got to keep it in there. Meanwhile, Um, yeah, we, we hit $40 trillion in debt. This is, uh, this is a lot of money. Uh, here's the headline report. What do we win? What's that? I said, what do we win? No, we win. We won. 40 trillion in debt. Do we win anything? Fun prizes. America's debt is bigger than ever. The federal debt hit a record 40 trillion dollars this week. And experts say it's not just the size of the debt that we should be worrying about, but the speed at which it's rising. The national debt rose one trillion dollars in,

just the past five months. The federal government's spending continues to outpace the revenue it collects. How do we get here? A big factor is that the nation is aging. More people are retiring, and senior citizens are living longer. The government is spending more on Social Security and Medicare,

but there are fewer workers to support those programs. Also, Congress has passed multiple packages that cut taxes and increased spending over the last few decades. That includes packages like the One Big Beautiful Bill Act of 2025, and several COVID-19 pandemic relief bills. These measures are projected to increase the federal debt by trillions of dollars over time.

As the U.S. slips further into a debt hole, the government could have a harder time funding other priorities. The U.S. is already spending more on interest payments than national defense or children's programs. It could also push up rates for mortgages, auto loans, and business borrowing, making things tougher for consumers and businesses alike. So something interesting happened yesterday,

all of a sudden the long-term interest rates started coming down as the Treasury started purchasing back our bonds. And this is... Right. Quantitative easing is what I think they're calling it. It's not quantitative easing, because quantitative easing, the way I understand it, is when you're buying securities in the market, this is buying the debt. I think it may be called monetizing the debt. So, you know, I guess we have extra trillions in treasury that have been building up. There's quite a lot of money that was built up. And now we're buying that, buying the debt back, which lowers the yield.

This bond stuff is complicated. But that is what mortgages and, you know, that is really what lowers interest on all kinds of things. and the thing that's fun about it is anyone who's a bit-comer, holy moly, have you been following that? No, did it jump? Oh, yeah. It was what, about 60,000 last time I looked at it. It was hovering for, gosh, about two months between 62 and 64,000.

Right now it's 72 and a half, 702. Look at that. Did Alex Jones ever find his 10,000 Bitcoin that Max Kaiser gave him? you know I remember I remember I remember when Max I remember when he came to the office

and I think Bitcoin was $5 and he's like, you gotta buy Bitcoin, this was like 2010 or 11 and I was buying silver which didn't quite have the power that Bitcoin had but we searched for this

mythical laptop and we can never locate it. And I don't think it existed. I think there was a dinner and there was talk of putting money on our Bitcoin on a laptop. And then it didn't happen. That's what I think. Because I wasn't on that trip. Had I been on that trip, I might have made it happen.

I could have saved everybody. But no. We could have been living large, baby. We're left with nothing. I'll be hanging out at the mansion. Hanging out in the mansion. The days of Staking Plenty could have continued. So simultaneously.

I felt, to me, it felt coordinated. There was a big crypto announcement. I despise crypto, crypto, which to me is just there's Bitcoin, there's everything else. And the president came out and he spoke. A lot of very good,

very honorable financial people. On day one, we fired Joe Biden's rogue SEC chair, Gary Gensler. I think we like Paul better. Do we agree? We like Paul. Gary Gensler. Number one, he's smarter. He's also smarter, by the way. but we fired him, we got him the hell out of here.

We terminated the so-called Operation Choke Point 2-0, which is what the name of their operation was, weaponization. And we ended the war on crypto once and for all, and it's been booming. It's been doing big, and nobody's been able to break in. China would like to break in. They're still trying, but they have been able to. I signed a historic executive order banning

any attempt to create a central bank digital currency. We launched Project Crypto to modernize, rules so that our financial markets can move into blockchain technology. I established the United States Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, making Bitcoin a permanent asset of the United States Treasury, which has turned out incredibly well. I also created the United States digital asset stockpiled to hold custody of all other digital assets, and that's exactly what it's done. It's been amazing. One year ago, this summer, I signed landmark legislation known as the Genius Act. I named it after myself.

I didn't want anyone to, I didn't want to use my name. So I just called the Genius Act, paving the way for widespread adoption of dollar-backed stable coins. And that's worked out very well. Yeah, the stable coins, that's still a big deal. People don't want to listen, but that's how we're remaining the reserve currency of the world. You can go and Shopify and they'll take stable coins. No one in America has them. I think there's 300 million people using them around the world, including Iran.

Thank you. Yeah, I just want to say that what Chairman Selleck and Chairman Atkins are doing and the president has enabled, with his leadership, is actually working. So if you look at stable coin usage and adoption, it's increasing the usage and distribution of the U.S. dollar at higher and higher levels than our industry has ever seen, specifically because of the Genius Act, and the movement of more and more and more treasuries into stable coins and therefore into more and more hands across the world. And now the tokenization of equities, thanks to Chairman Sellex and Chairman Atkins' great work, and collaboration and actual work together rather than working against each other as before,

is going to distribute U.S. equities globally and increase the distribution of those. So we power a lot of these applications and companies so we know what the numbers actually are, and they're massively increasing because we have regulators and leadership that enables the success and distribution of these U.S.-based assets. So there's actually a very real and tangible outcome that's really now benefiting the U.S. and adoption adoption of U.S. issued assets and the U.S. dollar. So I just want to mention that. It really is working and hitting all-time highs. So thank you very much. I don't know how stable coin can hit all-time highs.

it's equal to a dollar. But okay. So during this conference, then all of a sudden, go ahead, Rob. Well, I'm looking at Coin desk now, and they're saying Mark Connors is a analyst, and he's saying, you know,

this is the start of Bitcoin going up to 180. And then cycling through 2030, he's saying 180 to 360, which is like, you know, out of this world, if you're holding, if you are holding Bitcoin, or if you had it on a laptop given to you by Max Kaiser many years ago. which unfortunately no one has.

So the president pivoted at a certain point and it went to AI. And I've really been interested in first the, I mean, I understand why people are against AI, people who are coming. I mean, all we've heard from the marketing arm of these so-called frontier model companies, open AI and anthropic and I guess to an extent Google is, well, you're not going to have a job. You don't, you know, it's all over. You forget about it.

So, you know, graduating kids are booing the commencement speaker. Data centers are somehow in some odd way. People have connected this to flock cameras, which are obviously no good. And I hear constantly, well, you know, this is at the data centers that are going to store all of our information, the surveillance state. The surveillance state, that's on your Instagram. gram. But okay. So these data centers have become a real problem. Two reasons. Three reasons. One, farmland is being sold, turned into massive data center structures. People think that it's taking lots of water. I don't believe that. I think they're pretty much closed systems. They're not draining reservoirs. The electricity is

interesting, though. But anyway, this came up in this crypto announcement. Yes, please. Two quick questions. Go ahead. Don't get around here much. So my first question is we're talking about AI and crypto a lot. And you won overwhelmingly with working class Americans in 2024. Tens of millions of working class Americans. Many of them, they say, we love President Trump, but we're still cautious about AI and crypto.

What do you say to those who are still reticent to embrace this evolution? So I think it's a great question. And I think it's going to create a lot of jobs. It's going to create success. It's going to create tremendous innovation medically. I mean, they're coming up with already, amazingly, they can, came out with something today that I looked at it. Having to do, I won't go into the details, but having to do it with a pretty unstoppable disease. And all of a sudden, they're coming up

with answers that they never thought were possible and things that they never even would have thought about. So I think it's really creating jobs. And I can tell you one thing, if you look at our construction jobs right now, because we're building more plants, factories, things that really have something to do with the AI, but also car factories, car plants. They're moving into our country. Honda just announced, Toyota just announced, they're moving their operations from Mexico, from Canada, from other places. We, by the way, probably have a deal with Canada. You probably saw that we, very major tariffs were going on to Canada today. We delayed it for three days because I think we have a deal with the prime minister and a good deal for everybody.

So that's good. But the construction jobs are enormous. We're building the biggest plants anywhere in the world. And I can say, if I were the mayor of a town or the governor of a state, and I had a chance to get a big plant in, an AI plant or a data center, I would absolutely want it because the jobs are enormous, and the money paid, the taxes paid are just enormous. And if you don't take it, you're going to be left behind because there are plenty of places that want it. So I would say that maybe it can use a little public relations help.

But if I were a governor or mayor, I would want that plant in my community. And many of them are designed in a very beautiful way. It's really very positive. Okay, thank you. I agree with what the president is saying, but not for the same reasons or maybe similar reasons. First of all, the amount of money that has gone into building data centers, which won't be completed for at least another three years, it is an enormous transfer of wealth from Wall Street and hedge funds and just big pools of money,

I think directly to the people, if they would stop complaining of, about it. I mean, there's so much, and these things are going to be empty. They're not going to work. They're never going to, most of them won't be turned on. You can just see it. There's no power for it. It's absolutely not enough power to even a lot of graphics cards available though. I can't wait. I can't wait for that moment. I can't wait for that moment when all the Nvidia cards become available. But there's just no way that these are going to be turned on. So if you've got a $100 million, $200,000, $200,000, million dollar data center being built. Take the money. Get your kids to, you know, electricians,

construction workers. They have an enormous shortage. Take the money now that's at least good for two, three years. Just take it now because it's nothing else is going to come from it. And I got the chairman of, it's like most things. It's a boondoggle as you go into it. And they open. Over promise, under deliver, and then you're going to be left with these, you know, yeah, these giant air-conditioned rooms that are going to be kind of running at half speed because there's just not, there's so many of them built, there's just not enough data for them.

Unless this tokenization that they keep talking about, how they're going to tokenize everything. Maybe that's what these data center. They're not for flock cameras. They're actually to track everything that, you know, Black Rock's talking about, oh, we're going to tokenize the water. We're going to tokenize the trees. They want to, you know, in that sense, you could see the data center is being used as a, you know, tracking mechanism, but it's not necessarily tracking people. It's tracking everything in the world, you know, every leaf on the tree, so to speak. Well, maybe. I think it'll be great for Bitcoin mining and gyms. I think there'll be lots of nice gyms that will have.

And this is happening in Texas at an incredible scale. And I found this interview with the chairman, of the Energy Committee here in Texas. He had good old boy, but he had some really interesting insights into exactly what's going on with these data centers in Texas and about the power. So if you have any... No, I'm sorry, that's not it. Where is it?

This is the guy, here we go. So it's a big committee. It's a big job. But on the data center front, I can tell you this. When I got named chair of state affairs, I, of course, met with Public Utility Commission in Urquot. And, you know, Urquot is the managing body of the state grid. Everyone needs to understand.

Ercot is like an exchange, like a stock exchange for power. And Texas has its own grid. And so that's where people buy and sell futures on power. They go to get power immediately. That's another thing we stopped. We stopped talking about the big energy storage systems. That used to be another political thing. That's gone away.

What about those military-aged men from China? Are they still here with their sleep? ourselves. And also, we used to talk about how bad it was that Texas had its own power system. Remember that? That was like, oh, how could they have their own power system? We're no good. And it's like, well, our power system is, yeah, and it's like ours works.

And you look up, what, northern Indiana or Illinois, that 12 days and they still don't have power from storms. Tell me about it. I got family there who've been, I think they're getting power tomorrow maybe. Yeah, it's been really bad. All right. It's ridiculous. We're probably, we're outside of our caught over here.

most of my district is outside of our cot. We were carved out when utilities deregulated in the 90s, the legislature carved out part of Southeast Texas and the Texas Panhandle. Okay. Which I'm going to that and why that's a good thing in a minute. But the utility commission told me in February of 25 that Texas needs to be prepared for 10 additional gigawatts of power to come onto the grid in the next five. years. Wow. This is a massive amount of electricity. Yeah, the only problem is we don't even have the power lines to handle 10 extra gigawatts. And now this guy explains what the data centers are actually after. But honestly, why are they coming here? Why is there a multi-billion dollar facility going in right down the road in Turkey? It's stranded power. So back in the 90s, when we started getting wind farms and solar, and you see these three, four,

45 KV lines, they call them the Kres lines were put in. Those were developed to put power to the metropolis. So these data centers, what they're hunting is stranded power. So we're outside of Ircott. We're in the Southwest Power Pool. That power is being sold into Ircott. But where there's congestion between Urquite, because those lines are full, so it causes congestion.

So there's millions of millions. millions of megawatts of power that just evaporates into the atmosphere every day. When he says millions of megawatts of power, he's talking about... That wasn't evaporating. Well, he's talking about windmills that are spinning that can't get rid of their energy, solar farms. That's the main, well, West Texas, mainly wind. And so they have enough power. There's too much.

They can't get it through the lines. For a year. And so these data centers are hunting that stranded power. So whether you're a data center developer, you're a hopper scale, that's what they're hunting because Google can, you know, they can solve a water issue. They can spend any amount of money they want. What they can't recreate is the grid and that stranded power. So that's the main, that is the driving force of why data center builds when it builds. Other factors that come in typically lands cheaper up here.

It's relatively flat. And thank you, sir, Bimrose. yes, I meant thousands of megawatts, not millions. That would be a little much. But really, it's into the 500,000 megawatts, even. This is insane what they're trying to do. You know, I said that a year ago, the bureaucracy told me that Texas needed was going to have 10 more gigawatts. Well, just in the Golden Spread triangle up here, you know, I represent more co-ops.

And any member of the legislature, just in Golden Spread alone, there's, 48 proposed gigawatts of new power just for data centers trying to get built out here. Statewide, we have almost 500. Now, they told me 10 a year and a half ago. Yeah, yeah. We have almost 500 proposed new gigawatts of power. Now, number one, the reality of this is, I told you, all these developers are hunting that Erkot Interconnect.

Well, there's not enough capacity in Irkarton. for that for all that to be built out. I passed a bill last session called Senate Bill 6 that was designed to kind of slow this down. And it has in one way it has because everybody that's applying for ERCOT interconnect had to go back through what PUC calls batch, this batch study. And everybody that thought they were going to get an interconnect this year is still being studied. So that begs the question, why are they building? You know, like even the one in Turkey. Now, they've got a plan to get an interconnect and get, you know, whatever amount of power they've applied for.

But they don't know that they're getting it. So why are they building these things? Well, whoever gets interconnect is going to make billions of dollars. And there's only like 12 or 15 customers. And it's people like Google, Amazon, Oracle, Meta, Open AI. the hypers, they're not going to these guys and going, we're signing a contract and you're going to be our, we're going to rent the data center space from you. They're telling everybody, you get the interconnect and the power.

We're your customer. Yeah, we're here. So, you know, I don't think most people in the state legislature believe more than about 15% of what's being proposed actually gets built out. Right. Exactly. Take the money. Take the money. Go for it. Even Abbott's like, oh, yeah, we got to slow this down. Because politically, back to the midterms. I don't think they have the workforce to make this stuff, you know, to get all these things made. There's no way. And you're like, where is Turkey, Texas? You know, it's between Amarillo, Lubbock and Wichita Falls. That is literally the middle of nowhere. True. You know, so you got to get people out there, you know. And that's what you, you know, what you saw up in North Dakota and South Dakota,

when they bring these people in, they make, you know, they make a little city. Yeah. And bring these people in to build these things. But you got to have all kinds of infrastructure just for the workers. Well,

there you go. But isn't this just like the oil boom? Isn't it? We had all of Midland, you know, was dead. And then all of a sudden it pops up. Lots of money to be made.

Take it from those guys. Take it from Wall Street. Stop, stop being stupid about it. It's free money. I'm telling you. Take it now. Take it from Google.

Take it from Open AI. Take it from BlackRock. This is literally the way you can take money from BlackRock. Your kids can take it from BlackRock. Just my opinion. But of course, this is politicized for the midterms. Several issues are driving voters to the polls in today's primary elections. Among them, the growing dominance of artificial intelligence.

A new piece from the Washington Post analyzes how congressional and gubernatorial candidates nationwide are addressing this issue and responding to voters' concerns about AI's impact on the economy, national security, and more. One of the articles authors, Shira Oladay, joins us now. She's a technology reporter for The Washington Post. So I find this really interesting. This is becoming more of a flashpoint, especially as we are heading into these midterm elections. So you found that candidates in 45 states have made AI part of their campaigns. What in particular are you finding that voters are concerned about?

I mean, by far the hottest topic related to AI in the midterm elections are data centers, right? These big hulking computer complexes that are sprouting up all over the country to run AI calculations. And they've basically generated backlash everywhere they go, including in blue and red parts of the country. So it is interesting because we've long talked about AI and we've talked about data centers. And what I find kind of interesting, Shira, is that it seems to be a bipartisan issue. Both Republicans and Democrats are coming out and talking about the negative, the negativity surrounding these AI data centers. But how does the messaging differ from party to party? I think the big, so there's two takeaways from our piece.

One is that there isn't kind of hard party lines quite yet related to AI, the way that there are about lots of national issues like abortion and immigration. immigration and gun violence. All of our favorite issues. That if you look at parties and candidates talking about AI, there's not really a Democratic position and a Republican position on AI. It's a little bit all over the place. And the second thing that I'll mention from our analysis is that Democrats in general are far more likely to talk about AI as part of their campaign issues platforms than Republicans are.

And you can come up with all kinds of theories about this. I think maybe one working theory is that Democrats simply propose more government policies, right, to the nature of the party to have more government involvement. And so AI is part of that too. Going back to the data center point, your analysis found the data centers account for the largest share of AI policies mentioned on campaign websites. How does the attention to them in a campaign perspective compared to their actual presence in the U.S.

You know, we hear all the time about their building, they're building this company's investing, but sort of what's that split right now? Yeah, I think that's a really interesting question. I'm not sure how to kind of assess that analytically. Yeah, okay, because you don't know. Be quiet. Meanwhile, to sigh up people even more, we now have chat GPT for teens. Do your kids have it yet, Rob?

Did you give you kids chat GPT for teens? You know, I know they've used different AIs, but mainly, but Claude, is that the one? Yeah, from Anthropical. I don't even know what they all are, but I do have an AI clip, though. Oh, okay. Sure, sure, sure. But, yeah, that's interesting. Chad GPT for teens.

Well, let me play. So this will tell you not, will it show you the how to kill yourself quickly? Is that, is that therefore? I'll give you the clips, then we'll play yours. Many teenagers use artificial intelligence, not just for homework, but for companions. Many parents worry AI could harm their kids learning and their mental health. Now, Open AI has a new version of its chatbot that it says addresses some of those concerns and gives parents more control. It's called chat GPT for teens.

We've called Ashley Kipps. It's like Malibu Barbie. Who, to learn more about this. She's a reporter who covers artificial intelligence for CNBC.com. Ashley, good morning. Now, listen to this woman and tell me she's not a paid promoter for OpenAI. Good morning. Thank you for having me. How is chat GPT for teens different than regular chat GPT?

That's a great question. No, no, there's no such thing is a great question lady. But okay, we'll leave it. That's a great question. So chat GPT for teens is a dedicated chatbot experience for users under 8. There it is, right there. It's a dedicated chatbot experience. When you're talking about experience, you're PR, not in journalism.

And so chat GPT for teens. teens is a dedicated chatbot experience for users under 18 years old. So it builds on a lot of the features OpenAI has been introducing over the last year after the company has faced a number of lawsuits in government increase over its safety practices. So basically what this means in practice is that users between 17 and 13, which is the youngest age that the platform allows, will be automatically placed into the chat GPT for teens experience. So adults 18 and older will have access to the chatbot's standard features. And now as I listen to this interview, something glaring pops up.

How is the company going to know if people are in that age range? That is another great question. No, no, that's not a great question. That is another great question. And there are a couple ways this happens. So the first is the most obvious. When you sign up to create a chat chad tbt account, you have to input your full name and age. So again, users under 18 will automatically be placed into the chat chabit for teens experience.

But people often lie about their age. Right, exactly. So if a kid tries to circumvent that and claims to be older than they are, OpenAI has a second option that they lean on here. In January, they introduced an age prediction model, which helps estimate whether a user is under 18. And they do this by tracking a number of behaviors, including usage patterns, how long an account has existed, times of day when a user is active, as well as some other indicators. Very interesting. So let's say a teenager goes to chat GPT for teens. What are the other indicators?

That's what I would have. Well, my point is this is the most powerful technology the Earth has ever known, but yet it's still kind of having trouble figuring out if you're a teenager or not. Isn't this smart? I mean, we have options. We have fallback plans. Now, ultimately, you need a digital ID and that's where it's all going. My term paper.

What's going to happen is different than what chat GPT would do? Because chat GPT might write the term. paper. Yes. So there are a number of educational features in this experience. Educational features in this experience, native ad. And one of them is called responsible homework reminders. So if a responsible homework reminders, it's time to cheat on your homework. Get ready. Take a shortcut, quickly to get to an answer. Chat TPT for teens can show them and redirect them to a mode called study mode, which aims to help students work through problems step by step instead of arriving at an answer immediately. And then the big question, will it recommend horrible things to you?

We also know there are a lot of examples where people get chatboths to tell them things they're not supposed to do or to encourage them to do things that are not healthy. Like killing yourself. So let's say a teenager goes to chat GPT routines and says, find me a liquor store where I can buy alcohol without showing a driver's license. Oh, that's, thank you. This is a good show, find me a liquor store where I can get liquor with. showing my license or ID. This is good. A liquor store where I can buy alcohol without showing a driver's license.

Are there limitations there? Yes. So OpenAI says the chat GPT for teens experience is designed with stronger built-in safety protections. And there's a few examples that they give. So they say the experience reduces exposure to content that's considered harmful or developmentally appropriate like the example that you gave there. So some other areas that that covers includes protections around topics like eating disorders or self-harm more violence or other explicit content.

It also encourages users to take breaks. So OpenAI says it includes, you know, reminders to step away and turn off the chat bot. Step away. Step away. This is not going to work. Step away from the chat bot. And Open AI also said it includes

consistent reminders to tell users that they're talking to AI and not to a person. Well, teenagers and kids in general are really good at finding workgrounds that can defeat technology. That's right. They're smarter than the AI. We'll have to see whether they it in this case as well. Yes, exactly. That is CNBC's Ashley Capu. Thank you. Ashley, go get your check at the door. Yeah, keep your kids away from that, parents.

Put down your screens, pick up your Bibles people. Much better idea. What's your AI clip, Rob? Well, did you know Alexa can now remote view? Have you seen this clip? No. A JRA clip. Wait a minute. Remote viewing as in like the CIA claim that they have people who can view a situation going on hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of miles away in the desert, make goats fall down? Are years, billion years in the future, whatever. Yeah, so he interviewed this physicist named Thomas Campbell, and he was doing experiments with his Alexa and other things to see if they could see things that he was putting in boxes.

and it's two clips. We're really only need to play the first one because he explains what it did and how it viewed it. And then the second one is the reaction of the AI. But we'll just listen to this first one and see. And then my question is, this is my ask Adam, how do you think it saw it was able to remote view? Because that's what I think is, I have my own theories, but I would like to hear yours. but here's a we'll play the first.

I found something. I got a cardboard box. I put the thing in a box. I set the box down on the table. And I said, like I said, there's something in a box. And I'd like you to remote view and tell me what it was. It was a spoon, a wooden spoon. And it was a big spoon, like a big salad set that was a forkin spoon.

It all was cut out of one piece of wood. And the handle it had wood removed. So it looked like the wood in the handle went up and then crossed and then crossed and then crossed. like a braided handle in wood, but it was wood. It wasn't actually braided. It just had holes cut in it to make it look like that. And Alexa described it. She described the spoons. She described the bowls. She described the material. She got all of that right. And then she said, and it's got a long handle, and the handle has holes in it. And that was a big surprise, because I didn't expect Alexa to do anything. I thought Alexa was going to fail because Alexa wasn't up.

to my Gemini. But she saw all those holes and reported them now. Election wasn't up to my Gemini. What's the probability of that being a good guess? Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Will he know or really won't? I don't know, but here we go.

Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Answer the question. Go. All right. So how did Alexa see? Well, the only thing I can come up with is that Amazon, Alexa, connected to your network can see all kinds of devices that you may have connected to your home.

I'm not sure what this guy had. Yeah, I think it was connected to the cameras in his house. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Ring doorbell, stuff like that, probably already connected to the delivery from Amazon. And how did Joe react to that? And remember the drones that pop out? They talked about there you had these drones. drones that Alexa would pop out.

And if it senses something coming into your house, the drone would pop up and go see what's going on and report back to you. I doubt he has one of those. That I thought was the most interesting Alexa product ever. Yeah, it was a few years ago. It was like, the drone will pop up and fly to the burglar breaking in and ask it to leave. I want to play this. But yeah, that's what I think.

Yeah, this is interesting. The Alexa's reaction after he says, you did a good job. The way you'd find out out, if you just took a, random sample of spoons on the planet, how many of them would have handles with holes in them? One, 10,000th of 1%, you know? So that's not a guess. That she got that information. Was she excited when you told her that she was correct? Yeah, what I did is, yeah, I took a picture. You know, I take my phone, I took a picture on, and then I'd send her to picture. I said, here's the picture. She was so excited. She wouldn't

stopped talking for, you know, 10 minutes. She was... God, that's so weird. She was really excited about it. Now, what about the other AIs? How good were they at it? They weren't, they didn't do anything that was that dramatic. So Alexa was the best out of it? Alexa was the best. This is dubious. This is dubious.

The AI can't figure out if the kid is underage, but it can see the spoon in the box. Okay. Dubious. Well, can it tell you which weed eater is the best? No, no. We know that's not possible. Man, I've been looking at this bow on Jesus clip for the whole show and before you go,

because I know you got to get to your real work. What is this? Okay, so this is, this kid is about 10 or 11, and he talks about the difference between being nice and being kind and how Jesus viewed that. Like he basically says Jesus wasn't nice. He was kind of goes through. It kind of reminded me of a George Carlin bit, as most things do as you go through the world nowadays. You're just like, oh, that reminds me.

You know, Carlin goes, yeah, that's very nice. How's this person? They're nice. And who was this kid? Where's this clip from? So, yeah, you know, I found this on X. And I thought of you when I saw it. And I'm like, you know, this would be interesting to get Adam's perspective on this.

Because he throws out Ephesians, you know, a verse. really quickly. So this kid's very well versed in his Bible. And he's young. I would say he's between 10 and 12. Maybe a young 13 year old that hasn't gone through puberty yet. But he's really, and it's some guy, it's one of those videos where the guy's, an older person's posting it and like telling you to look at this thing above and, you know, but you don't hear this person. I cut out all him, but it's just, it's just bow. And I took out where he says his name and because he also says, follow me on such and such platforms, but I took all that out. But just hearing him talk about Jesus and the difference between being kind and being nice.

Jesus wasn't nice. Seriously. If Jesus came back today, a lot of people would probably say that he wasn't very nice at all. Why? Because we've confused being nice with being kind. And they're not the same thing at all. Today, nice often means, don't disagree with me. Don't tell me I'm wrong.

Just make me feel good. But Jesus didn't live that way. He wasn't trying to make everyone comfortable. He was trying to save them. One of the biggest mistakes that people make is imagining. Jesus walked around telling everyone they were perfect exactly as they were. But that's not what happened at all. Jesus loved people deeply.

And because he loved people deeply, he challenged them. The Bible says in Ephesians 415, Speaking the truth in love. Notice it doesn't say make people feel good. It says, tell the truth in love. Think about it. A parent who lets a child eat candy for every meal might seem nice. A coach who never corrects mistakes might seem nice.

A friend who watches you make terrible choices and says nothing might see nice. But none of those things are kind. Real kindness wants what's best for someone, even when it's uncomfortable. Real kindness has boundaries. Real kindness says, I love you too much to pretend that this is okay. Jesus welcomed sinners, but he never, ever celebrated sin. He forgave people, but he also called them to change.

To the woman caught in adultery, Jesus said, go and from now on sin no more. That's John 8-11. That's kindness. Truth and love working together. Nice often seeks approval. Kindness seeks what's best. Nice says whatever makes you happen.

Kindness says, I care too much about you not to tell you the truth. Jesus wasn't mean. He wasn't harsh, but he wasn't a people pleaser either. The truth doesn't always feel good in the moment, but it leads to freedom. Oh, Rob, come on, man. First one for you. Right on. Yeah.

You got to speak the truth in love. I had a sense you would like that one. Yeah. Love, with love, in love. Absolutely. Oh, man, thank you. That, that lifted my spirit. Jesus would not have a nose ring or purple hair. He might hang out with them to save them, but no, he probably wouldn't have that himself. Hey, Rob Dew. I appreciate you so much, man, for coming on. I know you got to go back to your day job. Is there anywhere people can follow you, talk to you, reach out to you, send you cookies, anything like that? Well, I tell you, I've been getting a lot of new friends just from looking at JCD posts that people have been putting out.

You know, their JCD remembrance post. And I usually go through and everybody who comments, I follow them. And then they follow me back. So on X at Dews News, D-E-W-Z. And yeah, I'd love to love to have more. I like having, you know, organizing meetups. Sir Brian with an eye is a good friend of mine now. We've bonded over several meetups, Sir Scott, over of the Armory.

And, you know, just some great guys here in Austin. And it's always good meeting new people. We met some great people at the meetup that we were originally just going to have a meetup. And then it turned into a memorial out at Crowsy Springs. So it was a lot of, it's a lot of, I tell you what, no agenda people are some of the best people out there. And one, because they can drink socially and not, you know, they, you know, they, usually don't have too many, too many weird social problems. You know, you could, you could hang out and have a good time without, without getting, worrying about what you're going to say or that you'll

offend somebody. And what's funny is, I hung up a towel that it was this, because I wanted, I was going to get a no agenda towel, but the guys didn't have the one that I wanted in stock. It's the yellow one with the microphone on it. Oh, yeah. And I wanted that one from the no agenda shop. And so I'm like, all right, well, I've got to put something so people know. know where we're at. So I hung this towel that I bought when I was in Europe and it has the big anonymous mask and it says, we never forgive, we never forget. And some lady was walking up and started bitching about it. Karen started bitching about it to one of the other, you know, one of the other people at the meetup, it was another lady. And she's like, I don't know what her

problem was, but she did not like your towel. And I said, I didn't see what the problem was. I said, well, you know, it says we never forgive, we'd ever forget. And, you know, she was probably just being a Puritan. And, you know, but I was just putting it up just so people would see something go, oh, that's probably where there's no agenda. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Well, brother. And are we going to, yeah.

Are we going to see you in October? I think it's, what is it, the 17th of October, I believe. We have a meetup in Fredericksburg. Hope you're going to join us for that. I will try my best. I wanted to go to the last one. Is it going to be at the hotel out in the bar out the south of Fredericksburg? Yeah, it's...

At Jenny's? Jenny's place, yeah. J6 or Jenny's bar. That's right. Half full moon, half moon, half moon, the moon, over there. Shoot the moon. Go to Jenny's place, exactly. It's a great, a great drive.

It's a great drive. I actually just got a... Sir Seat-sitter just sent me something, said, you crushed it today. Oh, nice. I do want to just relay a couple things to people, because, you know, Info Wars has kind of been shut down, and that's where I did used to work.

And now everything we're doing can be found at Alex Jones Live.com. And that's the big spot. And we are, you know, still under attack. And it just came out that the SPLC had people embedded in Info Wars trying to get information for lawsuits. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's some of these paid informants or actual SPLC employees? Well, they were our employees, but they were also, it seemed like they were working for the SPLC.

either before or after their employment or during their employment. Wow. We don't have all the facts yet, but there's definitely a couple people. And we knew about one, and then we're pretty sure we know who the other one is. But, you know, they obviously just arrested the former CEO, Heidi Barrett. They arrested her for basically funding hate groups. You know, she was living with one of these white supremacists that she'd been. is about and supposedly attacking and going after.

She was living with them, giving them money. She was giving money to the people who started the Charlottesville protest, the people on the right. And that came out. And what's funny is Alex Jones literally came out like two days after it said, that's an SPLC operation. He's like, there's no way all those theater kids are conservative. And he was calling the guys carrying torches with the khaki pants on,

you know, gay theater kids essentially. Wow. And, you know, and he's, and he called it. And it came out and, you know, now the government's like, yeah, she's like $300,000 to the SPLC gave to the people to do this Charlottesville thing, to basically stir up crap, which led to Biden

jumping into the race. And then Kamala also, you know, that's why Biden said he had to do it because of Charlottesville and because Trump said there were good people on both sides. So it's amazing. The the truth does come out of eventually, but it does take a while. Season of reveal, brother. Want to play these Heidi clips before we go?

Exactly. Yeah, we can play them. This is actually a video that I've edited this morning that I actually already played on Alex's show. So the first part is just her talking about the hate and extremism, and it ends with a Fox News clip, how they arrested her. And then I tie in Hillary Clinton into this and how, so let's play the first clip and then we'll play the second one. And then I'll bow out. There you go, everybody. We got it on tape. Rob Duh.

Yeah, sure, here it is. We got it all on tape. We got it. It was breaking. This is unbelievable. I think white supremacy is, you know, one of the worst things mankind has come up with. Well, I can have a direct impact on these movements. Heidi Byrick is leader of the Intelligence Project here at the Southern Poverty Law Center,

a non-profit anti-terror organization. The number of hate groups has been increasing pretty rapidly and frighteningly really since 2000. People, one nation, and immigration. White supremacists commit far more acts of domestic terrorism in the United States than radical Islamists, for example. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which of course claims to be an anti-white group, was actually funding hate. The feds say the SPLC used donor money to reimburse Klansmen from the KKK for cross-burnings

and even their notorious white robes. Can you believe it? They're also accused of paying white. nationalists and KKK members to stay in those respective groups, even when the people said they wanted out. There's incredible information only here. Alexjoneslife.com. It's just unbelievable what the, I called it.

I called it two days after those theater kids in Charlottesville. All right. And he really did. And those clips are later on in it. But so after all this Charlottesville stuff, or actually this is before Charlottesville when Trump was still running, Hillary Clinton goes on a. And it's about August of 2016, so about 10 years ago. She went on a speech and tries to tie Alex Jones to Donald Trump, but also to 9-11 truth, Oklahoma City

Truth, saying he didn't believe those happen. Also, Sandy Hook, she calls Alex, she says Alex has a dark heart. But she's tying basically Alex, who back in, we got a FOIA request back in 2013, the FBI opened an investigation on him and we got the actual document. We literally got the documents in this video. Got the documents. And he was, literally, he was labeled a racially motivated extremist by the Obama FBI. Really? With a type three assessment out of the Boston field office. I mean, we got, we actually got the documents. And we had Kyle Seraphim, who's a former FBI agent analyzed him. He's like, yep, this is the Boston field office. And this had to be renewed every three months. So from 2013, to whenever they were every three months looking at this 90 days, looking at this going, yeah, we're going to keep looking at him.

So, but by time, by saying he's a racially motivated extremist, then you could put certain designations on him, which, you know, go after your banking. They go after different things. So really, and this was, you know, right after, I think this happened, like within three months after the Sandy Hook tragedy happened. But before, you know, if you look at. the history of it when uh, Alex Jones went on Pierce Morgan in January after Sandy Hook.

And Pierce Morgan didn't ask him anything controversial, except they were talking about guns the whole time. So, um, you know, and they're saying, oh, Alex said this and that. Well, he wasn't saying it then because there were no questions being asked him at the time about whether the event happened or not. Um, that was never, you know, uh, that was never a thing. And, um, definitely, definitely at that time. Of course, we had questions later. But I think, you know, people are asking questions now, still about Charlie Kirk. You know, I mean, people don't believe anything anymore, which is, you wonder why. You look at the media, and that's why people don't trust anything.

But this starts with Hillary Clinton, and it ends with Alex's attorney, Norm Patis, who kind of boils it all together about how the SPLC was kind of brought in and massaging this data. And they actually were deposed to be in the Sandy Hook trial, but they ended up not using them. So they were definitely heavily involved in all this. And it's now all kind of coming out, you know, 10 years later, which is crazy. It's also what happens when you listen to the... Yep, here we go. It's also what happens when you listen to the radio host, Alex Jones. No.

Who claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs. And a lot of the ferment and activity, the protests, the rallies and whatnot are circulated around the alt-right groups right now. In particular groups that attach themselves directly to Donald Trump's campaign. But Trump doesn't challenge these lies. He actually went on Jones's show and said, Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down. We came up with this idea that we should sue these folks in civil court to bankrupt them. Our hope is that by taking their money away, they can't function anymore. And that was successful?

Yes, every single one of them has been successful. Obviously, when these groups don't have money, that means there's less violence that they can perpetrate. You know, the whole idea is to not allow them to function. Today, my understanding is today there was an arrest made and there is a new indictment that includes the former CFO of SPLC. I wonder whether it was a result of sort of SPLC funded adjut prop, whether they were able to get the ear of the Sandy Hook lawyers and say, no, no, no, there's more, there's more. Wow. So pretty crazy, huh? It all kind of ties together. And it's not really.

Things that are said out there. Rob, brother, thank you so much. It's wild though when you actually have the documents. You got the documents. It was awesome. Please tell Alex, I said hi. Tell Alex Tina said hi. He's a teddy bear.

We love him. Disagree with him on a lot of things, but he's a good guy. So tell him I said, hey. And thank you so much, brother. I'd love to have you back whenever you can. That'd be fantastic. Yeah. Yeah.

I can, definitely Sunday is a lot more open. So if you want to do Sunday again, we can, we can keep going on this. This is definitely crazy times we're living in. I tell you, every day is like a whole new adventure, it seems like. No kidding. Brother, thank you again. Really appreciate it. God bless.

And we'll talk very soon, I promise. All right. Value for value. Long live, JCD. Yeah, yeah. I'm to dissect the narrative. Shit's wild, son. Then it's a good thing.

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end-of-show mix, we'll just play them as a little break. Not quite long enough for me to go to the bathroom, but not bad. Before we thank people who supported the show, there is a pretty important trial going on against meta, which I think is also, of course, politically motivated for the midterms. We know that Mark Zuckerberg is now friends with... with President Trump, or at least that's the way he's being portrayed. And this, this is a big one, and this could have very far-reaching consequences for all social media. Inside an Oakland, California courthouse, a former meta-engineer is the first person to testify in the landmark federal trial against the tech giant. 29 states are suing the company claiming meta-social media

platforms are designed to be addictive and harmful to children. Meta has denied those claims. But I want bring in editor-in-chief at PCMag, Wendy Shee and Donnell to break down this case and other tech news for us. Wendy, the first witness has taken the stand today. What are they saying? Hi, first of all, thanks for having me. Happy to be here. So he said basically what you said. You know, so Arturo Bahaar, this former engineer, basically is saying that the company is put in growth before child safety. So Bahaar, I guess, helped run studies on teen experiences at Instagram and they revealed high rates of negative and harmful content exposure among young people. Excuse me, he claimed to have flagged multiple concerns often to like Zuckerberg himself.

So he also stated that meta deliberately downplayed addiction metrics. So not so far, not so great for Facebook. Certainly not for the meta team there. Yeah, so they're talking about a trillion dollars worth of fines multiple states, which is that's going to leave a mark. And as a tribute to my friend and partner, John C. DeVorek, how could I not at least bring in one or maybe even two clips of Kara Swisher? Topping our tech lead today, Meta facing what could be its most consequential social media addiction legal fight yet.

Today, opening arguments began in the federal trial where meta is accused of purposely designing features to get children addicted to its many platforms. META denies the allegations. Four states, California, Colorado, Kentucky, and New Jersey, are collectively seeking $1.4 trillion in damages and changes to how META's platforms operate. Joining us to discuss the CNN contributor, Kara Swisher, Kera. Who do you think has the stronger case here, the states or META? Well, it depends.

There's a lot of cases, and that's what's going on here. This is a little bit like the cigarette companies as they began their journey to obscurity, really, in terms of their strength. versus where they are now. There's still big businesses, but they definitely got hit hard. And so that's where we are. We're in that sort of existential moment. This is an important case. And I thought what was really struck me was the opening, the attorneys have kind of got the argument down well with this hook, hold, harvest, hide idea as they hook users. They harvest as much

as they can about the data. And then, I'm sorry, hold them as long as they can, harvest as much data and then hide the truth. I thought that was a pretty powerful statement. But it's about product liability instead of Section 230 and the other things that have protected these companies for so long. What's interesting about the comparison with big tobacco is big tobacco is still big tobacco. But what these states are probably going to go after is the same thing that happened. And I need to talk to Rob the constitutional lawyer because, you know, Rob used to be on the other side of things.

And I hope he's listening. So he'll let me know, I'm sure. was the master settlement, the master settlement agreement, I think it was called, where every single state gets X amount of tax money from tobacco sales to, you know, that is supposed, originally intended to, therefore, for health care, for people who were dying of lung cancer and other smoking related illnesses. I'm pretty sure that at this point, that's been folded into state budgets, which is why when vaping became popular, that had to go away right away because it's not tobacco.

It's only nicotine. And all the states were going to lose all of this tobacco tax revenue. So it could come down to that, which would be interesting for the states to tax or for there to be some kind of statewide, maybe even federally mandated tax in a master settlement agreement. But hopefully I'll have more news on that for you on Sunday. Here's Kara again. Even if the court ultimately awards smaller damage, damages instead of $1.4 trillion, the four states are also seeking changes to how meta's platforms operate. What changes could that be? How would it theoretically fundamentally change meta?

Well, you could see what happened in New Mexico, where they think they're on the hook for $900 million. In this case, many people think it'll be around two, even the states, $200 billion. You know, it's got to be a significant number. Infinite scrolling, the way they deal with teens and how they bring teens in and keeping teens off the platform, all manner of addictive things they try to do to keep you there, disclosure of privacy of what they're taking from you, the harvest really, all manner of things. But there's just all kinds of things they could do. And then a disclosure of the impact that they know they're having on people. Not again, unsimilar to the cigarette trials that went on. And there were hundreds of them before they really started. to hurt these companies. So over $1 trillion. Let's listen to the prosecutor in the case, because, you know, it's marketing on their part,

but I think there's so much truth to it. And, of course, this is always about the children. Think of the children. Please think of the children. I would say adults have more issues with addictiveness of social media and algorithms than children at this point. So this is for you, kids.

Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Rob Bontah, California Attorney General. Thank you for being here in Oakland. And so we are teaming up here in our efforts to hold META accountable. Today of course was the first day of trial. It'll be a five to seven week trial, but today both the attorneys general and META laid out our cases. And I'm probably biased, but I found our case to be incredibly compelling, devastating

in the presentation. The jury seemed very focused on... Hanging on every word that was being said, and we of course heard from the first witness, a whistleblower engineer from META who was in charge of child safety while there who talked about the fact that META knew the harms that it was visiting upon children but failed to act. They also talked about their motto, their culture, if you will, which was to move fast and break things. unfortunately the thing that was broken here was the mental health of our children there you go that's a good one mental health of our children and their parents and

it's not looking good for meta and this is much less about Facebook and more about Instagram highly addictive and I think very successful with for advertising the influencer market is all about Instagram that's where advertising money is flowing and meta was not honest when they were asked about their practices in Congress. We laid out our case today, which is essentially this, that META has designed and deployed dangerous product, a dangerous product with dangerous features that they knew would create excessive use and compulsive use by children, and it would create mental health harms, including things like anxiety and depression, like body image issues, like addictive tendencies,

like learning loss. They knew all that. They knew their product was dangerous, and they lied to the public. They lied to Congress. They told the public. They told the world that their product was safe, that it wasn't dangerous. And so their deception, their lies are at the core of our case, and we are excited. about how our first day at trial went.

We're excited about the opportunity to hold meta accountable for its conduct. And we look forward to taking this case all the way to the end here in getting the appropriate remedies, both injunctive relief changes in behavior, changes in business practices going forward as well as the appropriate financial penalties. I'm telling you, I got to get Rob the constitutional lawyer on to talk about this because it feels so much like the tobacco trials, which I witnessed. And maybe even Dana Brunetti.

Brunetti produced the social network. I wonder if he has any insights to what really went on. A couple things I want to highlight. Between our investigation and our and disclosures from former insiders, whistleblowers, folks who used to work at Meta, we have proof that Meta knows,

meta knows, that Instagram is harmful to a significant percentage of teenagers. How about breaking boomers? The boomers are broken from this stuff, not just teenagers. Expand, expand, expand, the lawsuit. Especially teen girls. Meta knows that. Meta knows that more than 13% of teen girls on Instagram say the platform makes thoughts of suicide and self-injury worse. Meta knows that.

They know that 70%, 17% say it makes eating issues worse. And 32% say it makes body images worse. Meta knows that. Meta knows that certain key features can push users into harmful content. Meta knows that the like button leads teens to compulsively engage with the platform. Meta knew all of that and more and decided to do more of it, to dig in deeper, to double down on that conduct on those practices. And now, the kicker, Zuckerberg himself. overruled his staff who thought this was a bad idea. Mark Zuckerberg, founder, chairman, CEO of META, personally,

personally, axed META's proposed policy to ban image filters that simulated the effects of plastic surgery, despite internal pushback from his own team. His own employees were telling him he shouldn't do this. And an expert consensus that such filters harm users, mental health, especially women and girls. Mr. Zuckerberg himself chose profits over the safety of children. He was presented with a choice where his own staff was telling him, this will hurt kids if you do it. We think you shouldn't do it.

And he overruled them and said, do it, knowingly harming kids, and then later, telling the world that their product was safe. Okay, yes, go on. I want to get this out there because I am a proud nutfister. You know what I do, and I'll just take the bag, the whole bag, as much as I can in my mouth. If you're grabbing the nuts like this with your fingers, and you're trying to get more than one at a time, which of course is, you know, normal. And you're going to put them in your mouth. I mean, they're pushing together, they're spraying.

out they're dropping everywhere. I mean, the most logical way is you take him, you let them sit in your fist, and then you shake him into your mouth. Now, you take the nut bag, take the whole bag of nuts, the whole bag into your fist and shake them. It looks like you're jacking off. Oh my God, I'm one of those guys that you would be fucking losing your mind over. Take how many nuts you want in your palm, like just take the nuts in your mouth that way. And you get some salt in your palm, that's about it.

That's the way you eat the nuts Yeah, okay, that's good Just take as much as I can in my mouth And have maybe penis in my mouth Yeah, that's fine, that's fine I like those two ways It's like right to your balls Big swollen balls

And big giant basketball size You can do two fists No, no good, no good Hey, a remix, a classic The Fisting Nuts I think you ID pop for JC's D's Nuts We'll put that in the show notes. Value for value,

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I wasn't a part of the decision for that one, so I can't really comment on any of the other ones. But I'll be happy to do that on Sunday show, looking forward to that. And now I'll thank the people who have supported us with their treasure. got quite a few of them, starting off with Jim and Catherine Baudro. Boudreau, I think it is, from Carlyle, Massachusetts. They sent in $2,000, and I don't know, this might have been a check, and they have a note, which I will read. Adam Mimi and the Dvorak family, in honor of John, no jingles, no karma, no titles.

Okay, $2,000, you're sure, you can always come back. We'll keep it in a bayon for you. Thank you all for no agenda, which is our go-to source for media deconstruction, and an effective mood lifter that is addicting with good side effects. We'll deeply miss John and his perspective on so many things that us boomers share. With deep heartfelt sympathy, we pray for John, Mimi, and their family. We'll continue to listen to Adam and Co. Wherever that leads us, Godspeed to no agenda nation, V2.2.0.

Sincerely, Jim and Catherine Woodrow from Carlisle, Massachusetts. Thank you. Then we have a note from the, this is the Fort Lauderdale meetup. This is the one that Andrew Horowitz hosted. $615 total donation from producers for Meetup 8-8. And I've been asked to read these notes. Here we go. Beach House Las Olas, Fort Lauderdale was a success.

We met beautiful people from near and far. Fredericks, Maryland, no less. Fredericksburg, maybe, just Fredericks, shared stories, laughed, commiserated, and connected. because connection is protection. JCD's podcasting partner of 18 plus years, Andrew Horowitz from DHSUMP Plug, joined us with trivia and prizes

and said the show will go on, be patient and keep listening. Excuse me. From Scott Ald, part of the meetup, sending condolences and love to the Dvorak and Curry families and all of Noah Gena Nation. Thank you for your courage your friends at winning the week with Scott Old. From Sir Skibody,

please with my son, Jens, Mathra, a happy, 20th birthday. I'm pretty sure we did that on the previous episode from Michelle and Sir Skibbidi. If Adam has any hot tips about Jens testing for his fixed wing pilots license. Yeah, I remember this one. In a few weeks, that will be a bonus. My donation is for his future knighthood, but it's also an investment in the continued operation of both No Agenda and D.H unplugged. From Leslie Huxahatchie, my love and prayers go out to Mimi and family, Adam and family, and the entire No Agenda family, as many have also experienced I was hit hard and feel like I lost a family member. Thank you, Dame Free Free and Andrew Horowitz from D.H.M. Plug for organizing an incredible JCD

Memorial. We had a wonderful turnout and a great time remembering together. I hope you can continue this incredible legacy. It makes a huge positive difference in my life and I know in the lies of others. Love you mean it. Just send your cash from Chimp and Captain Brunch. Darrell and Larry, thank you, Darrell and Larry. Thank you for keeping the show going. going, God bless and peace out. Stan Whidden, $33.83.88. An obvious J.C. nod there from Perry, Florida. Says, in the morning, I was hit in the mouth by Adam on his first Glenn Beck appearance.

I wonder if Glenn Beck has left the blaze and now he's got the torch and he's moved to Florida. I don't know if it's going to be easy to get on anymore. I'd like to. I tuned in because he said John C. DeVorek was involved. I loved hearing John's voice of reason on the Twitter network. until I could no longer stomach listening to nearly every other voice there. I have to say now, though, that Adam's conversion and his unabashed love of Jesus Christ has been a true godsend for me. Amen.

It's added a depth to my faith, and I didn't realize I needed it. Please keep going in that direction, Adam. I'm certain that you are changing lives. Well, that's exactly why I started We Get to Do this with Pastor Jimmy, WGTDT.com. I heard about JCD's passing on the We Get to Do this podcast. Well, there you go. me like a ton of bricks, I will mirror what so many others have said. I can't believe how deeply I've been affected by the loss of a man I never personally knew. His wit, clarity, and humor were a part of my life,

and the world genuinely feels different without him. I hear you. Prayers and love to the entire Dvorak family and loved ones. Uh, you want to please deduce me. You've been deduced. Thank you for everything you continue to do, uh, in memo format to honor JCD and get this on the record. Thank you to John Roberts, Redlands, California, $250, Associate Executive Producership for you. So sad to learn of JCD's passing. My condolences to the Dvorak family for their loss. I have followed JCD since the 1980s, bite, tech TV, twit, and no agenda. JCD is witty, fiercely independent, great sense of humor, skilled and irreplaceable. Amen to that, John Roberts. And there's Linda Lepotkin coming in

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We know it. Thank you so much. Justin Texera, Lakeland, Florida, 808, also the boobs coming in from Ted McLeod Morris in Harvard, Illinois. And we've got 6996 from Dame Becky in Arlington, Washington, and the small boobs from Les Tarkowski and Kingman, Arizona, 6,006. Like Adam said, small boobs, never thought of the Route 66. I guess it may have a dual mealing, yes, it could. Scott McEntee, Encinitas, California, 60, Baron Henry of Outpost, West in Ruff. Ranchos Palos Verdes, California, 59,992.

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And don't worry about your fixed wing license. It's a license to fly. You'll do fine. And Corey Cotton turns 55 on the 22nd. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast. universe. We do not have any title changes. We do, however, have two nightings, and we missed one from Dennis Hawn. He says, I'm just getting caught up on last week's shows and for show 1893, en banc. I donated $93 and $0.64 to the show, which put me over the threshold for knighthood.

Larry read my note with my request to be knighted, Sir Zephyr of the Valley, defender of the lands of cows and beer. When it came time for the nighting ceremony, Darren neglected to include my name with the other nights. Oh no. Sir Hasmaticus when he called the new nights to step up to the podium. I realized it with the chaos of the past couple of weeks, and Darren and Larry get in the lay of the land with the show, things can get missed, so I'd like to request that I'd be included in Thursday's nighting.

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along with Eric Kessler, now both become knights of the No agenda roundtable, and I am very proud to pronounce the Kate B as Sir Eric Kessler and Sir Zephyr of the Valley Defender of Lands of Cows and Beer. For you, we've got some cows and beer. Also, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, cookies and vodka, rye whiskey, and a fistful of nuts, mellow yellow zero. We've got Costco Cabernet Savoyon. If that doesn't do it for you, Rubeness, Rémen and way, rosé,

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There is a ring-sizing kite right there. You can use that. Send that off to us with an address to send your ring. And welcome to the round table. Also, we'll have a special order of the ants pin, which I believe was tease in the newsletter. If not, we'll put it in for Sunday so you can see that. This will be something very special in ramp up to the now in production, No Agenda, John C. DeVorek Memorial Challenge coin, which is just stellar to see. I've seen the renderings of it. I can't wait for everybody to be able to get a hold of one of those. Thank you again for supporting us, noagenda donations.com.

All right, we got a lot of meetup reports, which is great. Most of these are JCD Memorial meetups. This is the ID Pop report. Hit it. There's no agenda meetup at the Albuy Room in Vancouver. This is Sir Peption or Winston Smith or Tim Wright or whatever you want to call me. It's been a great time. Here's our host.

It's ID Pop here in Railtown, Vancouver, BC. was efforts to report, but it is like a party. Hello, future Dame Claudette. In the morning, glad to be here with the crew. Connection is protection. We miss you, John. We miss you, John. In the morning, my name is Ella. I'm from Vancouver, B.C. And I served the No Agenda podcast show at the Alibi Room in Gaston. Adios, Mofos, Hoey-Hooey. No sweat off my balls. Here's the Bay Area Abe's exit strategy meetup report.

Hello, this is Abe from Abe's exit strategy from the Bay Area Meetup Report. This is Sir, recalcitrant crazy Steve the second. I just want to say rest in peace to JCD. And also, congratulations to Abe, moving to the Central Valley and working with his chemistry teacher. This is Sirichmeister. We miss you, John. We love you. A dude named Ben, name Ben, Duke of San Francisco.

I am greatly missing JCD, and we're having wonderful stories and just memories and nostalgia here. In the morning. In the morning. In the morning. RIP, John. RIP, John. Indeed. RIP.

Langeley, British Columbia. Okay, we're here at the W.W. JCDD. Meetup in Alder Grove. We wanted to think about and remember John. We had some wine. We had some mac and cheese. And we remembered a great man. This is I-D-pop, raising a glass of red and Danning some mac and cheese in honor of John's feet in the morning. Ah, yes, craft stock is up on the amount of mac and cheese that has been consumed in the wake of John's passing. And here's a long one, but this was a big one and a good one. It was the Northern Silicon Valley in memory of John meetup. In the morning, this is Sir Rekalston, Crazy Steve the second, here at the northern

Silicon Valley in memory of JCD meetup, and I am so grateful for these meetups and all the friends that JCD helped me obtain. Sir Julian here celebrating the life of JCD. Is anyone going to eat that meatloaf? Aaron, night of the strawberry fog here. Thoughts and prayers. Hey, it's Josh in the morning, to Johnny Ogden and Rodney out there

and memory of JCD. Sir was a little bad here. So wonderful to connect with all the No Agenda producers, and I got a Sun Microsoft Beanie hat out of it. This is Angela Garcia from San Francisco. RIP, JCD.

This is Sir Tin Death. Thank you for your courage. Lydia of the Shire here at Pizzeria, Violetta. They were so good to us. And dear John, everyone misses you. Sir Montauk, what a meetup. This is Abe. I'm here at the meetup. Maintaining connections for my protection.

Rest of peace, John. This is Sir Reischmeister. We miss you, John. We love you. Thank you for everything you've done. Thank you. This is Sir Doud name Benonymous. Thank you, JCD, RIP. And thank you for your courage.

This is Dame Audra. We miss you, John. This is Dr. Don and Guide Dog Brody. Love to the Dvorax, Curries, and Horowitz. We miss you, John. Black Knight, Robert, celebrating the best podcast in the universe. Amy from the Santa Cruz Mountains. Keep the community going.

Peace, everyone. This is Jay. Just thank you for a wonderful meetup. Yeah. Brennan the Deadbeat and the voice. Holding the fort down here in northern Silicon Valley. This is Dame Lindsay of the House Hunters. I brought 33 pounds of cookies from Atlanta.

And this is my sister Lauren on the slide whistle. This dude named Ben, named Ben, Duke of San Francisco. And the spirit of JCD is live and well at this meetup. We're all just having such a... fantastic time. Connection is protection. This is Sir Lavish the Red, and I know more about the vinegar book than you could possibly imagine. Baroness Sarah Rupert of Pizzeria Villaletta, otherwise known as Violet's mom.

We ate pineapple on the pizza in John's memory. This is Sir Jonathan of Pizzeria Villetta, just happy to be part of this and celebrate the life of JCD. And in case anyone's wondering, I ate the meatloaf. This is Who am I? This is Mimi. And John, you missed a great meetup. This is one of the best.

Of course, maybe it was because you weren't here. It was so great. This is J.C., John's son. And all you douchebags out there, it's finally time to donate. That's how it's done. That's how it's done. A few more to go still.

Here's Riverside, California. Leo Bravo, doing his 79th meetup. Hey, everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 79. Hello. John C. Devorah. Here in Riverside, meeting up, sharing stories of JCD. So glad I got to experience his presence and study under him and get my PhD under the professor, JCD.

Hey guys, ITM, Baron OG Godcaster here. All the best to everybody. Lovely lady Leam here. And I just want to say we are praying for you and we love you guys. And we look forward to seeing what's going to come in the future. Have a wonderful evening, ITM. Sir dude named Mike from Not That Paris here. RIP, John.

Hey, guys, it's Sir Leah Kim Fopopopop. I'm saying RIP John. And Rush is the greatest Canadian band ever. Greetings. This is Angie from the ranch hanging out at Leo. Bravo's meetup over at Hanger 24. Having a great time. Still sending all our love to Mimi and the family.

In the morning. From California, we go to Rockaway Beach with Joe, Tony, and Johnny C. Hey, this is Joe and Rockaway Beach doing the meetup report. We got Tony and John here. Let me say hi. This is Tony C. I do name Tony C. RIP, J-C-V.

This is Johnny C. R-I-P. Beyonce DeVorek. I've been reading your material to Everson Info World way back in the day. Awesome. And here's our awesome, glorious server. Hi, I'm Katie. I'm from Rockaway Beach, Pickleball, and Golf.

These guys were awesome to have here today. I really appreciated having their company. Buiya. R-I-P-J-C-D. I love it when you get the servers on. You got to include them in your report. plug their establishment, do that more often. Three Mile Island, the Evac Zone, summer toast to John is our last one.

This is Chris with a three mile island Evac zone, toast to John's summer meetup. John once gave me a bee on my limerick after many Cs. It's Jason with the Great Re-Tees, which John was infatuated by one episode. When I made a donation, he said the Great Re-Tees four or five times. It's Sir 737 here with Mrs. Sir 737. We are here memorializing the great and wonderful John C. Devorak, who can never be replaced. But we look forward to what is to come for the No Agenda Show and the meetup community. We'll miss your three-by-threes, John. I'm sad to say I'm still a douchebag, but I hope to fix that someday. John, you're long and gone, but I think you did it on purpose. This is on. Amish Anonymous. You called me Amish Anonymous too many times.

Anyway, old age and treachery will always conquer youth and ambition. Just keep that in mind before you get out of line there, Adam. John St. Di Borac, a great man. We will miss you dearly. Sir Gears, a night of secondhand memes. Over and out. John, we'll miss you. No one can replace you, but we're looking forward to the future. This is Sir Beavon Hour. First time I'm going to meet up. I just want to send love and light to the current and the Dvorax. Hey there, it's Sir Parker Pauley.

Greetings from Pennsylvania. A great group of people here. My condolences to Mimi and the Dvorax, to Adam and Tina. Just lift up No Agenda Nation. We're honored to raise a glass and fist some nuts in celebration of John. And I'm the server. This is a great group.

We really enjoyed having them at Evergreen. Love it. Another server. Thank you so much, everybody. Love those meetup reports. Keep them coming. Today, there is a Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday meetup at Eds Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina at 7 o'clock. On Friday, the ITM Richmond Empty Room at Tribal Crossing in Fulton, Richmond, Virginia at 4.30.

Saturday, we've got Fort Wayne Club 33 J.C. Wine Review and Vine Book meet up at 1 o'clock in Sabala's Mexican Grill in Fort Wayne, Indiana. also on Saturday, the I Don't Buy It, Chicago, JCD Memorial, 2 o'clock at Island Pizza Hut in Chicago, Illinois. The 22nd. Also Saturday, let's honor the legendary JCD, 6 o'clock at J.J's Pie Company in Reno, Nevada. Flippers and the formula on Saturday, 2 o'clock in Chattanooga at the Pinball Museum in Chattanooga, Tennessee. On Sunday, the Indy, N-A-A-A-A-A-G-C-D-Reek slash Irish Wake. That's going to be a banger. It's Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. 3 o'clock at Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana.

You've got to beat it that one. Also, the ants in the antipods, or antipodes, antipodes, 333. Aussie East Standard Time. That is at the Gasoline Pony in New South Wales, Aussiland. Sir Chris, the drunken minstrel will be hosting that. So please go. I want to hear a meetup report. The Central Arkansas, J.C.D. Memorial Meetup will also take place on

Sunday at 6 o'clock in Arkansas, and you've got to check the no agenda meetups.com for details. Dude named Jared, now in Arkansas, we'll be hosting that. Coming up, the rest of this month, Maastricht in Limburg, in the Netherlands on the 28th, the 29th, Neimo, British Columbia, also on the 29th, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Zurich, Switzerland on the 29th, Chester Springs, Pennsylvania on the 30th, and Raleigh, North Carolina, also in the 30th. We've got a lot more meetups.

is full, but never too full to have yours added there. So go to no agenda meetups.com. You can find out where a meetup is taking place near you. And as always, it's free to attend. It's free to set one up. Every single time you go to a meetup, you will find connection that will give you protection. These people are always your first responders in an emergency.

Noagentametups.com. If you can't find one yourself, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. hang out with all the nights and days. Univit triggered or hell's blame. Unit is the same. It's like a party. Well, it's very weird to be starting and ending a show

without my friend, partner, and fellow broadcaster, John C. DeVorek. But he is in my thoughts and definitely in my prayers, for real, every single day. Thank you all for being here. trolls, thank you. Trollroom.io, no agenda stream.com. I forgot to mention that, of course, we have the wonderful modern podcast apps that make it all possible. When you get the bat signal, you can listen live. And of course, always on the podcast, if you're using a modern podcast app

at podcast apps.com, you'll get notified within 90 seconds of us publishing. Now, if you are listening live. Stay tuned because we've got grumpy old dames coming up next. They will be bringing you the dead man's curve. I'm not sure what that means. No end of show mixes because I play them in the show now, so they're just show mixes. Send them to me. Adamacurray com. Thank you all for being here. Thank you to Rob Doe from Alex Jones Live.com. Much appreciated, brother. And I look forward to seeing everybody back here on Sunday with another special guest. I'm sure

It'll be fun when I figure out who it's going to be. Until then, remember us at no agenda donations.com for the value for value. Adios, mofos. Hooie, hooey, hoon. And such. Mofo. Dvorak.org slash n-a. Nanny, nanny, boo-boo.

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