No Agenda - 1897 - "Caconian"

Episode Date: August 23, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1897 - "Caconian" Caconian Executive Producers: Lasse Jensen Brett Carrothers SIR VICTOR, BARRON OF THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY. Sir Nate the Rogue Cory MacDonald Sir Keith "Big" Johnson Dennis anonymous Elizabeth Johnson zadoc brown III joshua johnson Sir Robertson of Two Sticks. Cyril Beatty NO AGENDA SHOP Associate Executive Producers: Manuka Gold Eli the Coffee Guy Scot Kinney Linda Lupatkin Knights and Dames: Brett Carrothers > Sir Tree Daddy of Hard-to-Say joshua johnson > Sir Double J zadoc brown III > sir foam of the danbar Order of the Ant (JCD memorial): Lasse Jensen Brett Carrothers SIR VICTOR, BARRON OF THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY. Sir Nate the Rogue Cory MacDonald Sir Keith "Big" Johnson Dennis anonymous Elizabeth Johnson zadoc brown III joshua johnson Sir Robertson of Two Sticks. Cyril Beatty NO AGENDA SHOP End of Show Mixes: Jus Baker Sir Chris Wilson Art By: Parker Paulie, a Black Knight Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Last Modified 08/23/2026 16:06:31 by Freedom Controller  

Did you go this morning? No. Bad boy. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, August 23rd, 2026. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1897. This is No Agenda. In the morning, Gibbon Nation, welcome to No Agenda 1897, the best podcast in the universe.

And this is No Agenda version 1.2 beta. And please welcome back, the co-guest host that we had our... on the previous episode on Thursday, the one and only, Sir Duceyver, Mr. Rob Doo. In the morning, everyone. How's everybody doing out there? I hope I'm coming in loud and clear. Loud and clear, no delay.

Excellent. It was the weirdest thing on the last show. I'm like, why is Rob so slow? I never noticed he was a slow thinker, you know? It's like, he always... I'm usually on the ball, ready to interrupt at a moment's notice. And then I realized late, like, oh, you know, the must have been... And I'm like, what, Rob, did you have a bad...

connection or do you have a couple of tabs open on your browser? Yeah, and I replied back, well, my browser probably looks like John C. DeVorex office at this point. I mean, I am a browser tab fiend. I have finder windows and three browsers open each one with like, I don't know, 40 windows. So yeah, we closed all that. Oh, you have 40? How many tabs? You have 40 tabs? You have 40 tabs or 40 windows? I had no, probably like eight windows with 40 tabs mixed around total. I mean, now I have three tabs open. So we're looking good. When you say Windows, what do you mean?

Like file folders? You're on a Mac, right? I'm on a Mac. So I have Firefox. I have Safari. I have Brave. You know, I have all the different browsers open because each one does different things.

Kind of. No wonder. No wonder. Well, here's the thing, Mr. Robb do. Whenever Gitmo Nation like something, Whenever they're really like digging something, people always do things like they make jingles, they put together end of show mixes. And since you are, I mean, no one even called you a Zionist show. I'm amazed.

I'm a little worried, actually. There's still time. Here's a mix just for you from Just Baker. Yeah. Addams at the helm again, wingman locked in the right seat, two pairs of eyes clapped and through the same. media meat they don't just report the weather they measure the dew point that exact degree where the narrative vapor

turns liquid and you finally see the point. Just do it. Just do it. Peel the frame in the game. Let the morning light do what the night couldn't. Sir Ducifer and the Podfather

deconstructing the same old script. Just do it. Just do it. Just do it. Just do it. Just do it. Yeah. Just do it. Just, just, just, just, just do it.

Just do it. Just, just, just, just, just. Just do it. Just, just, just, just do it. I mean, come on, man. That's some love right there. I'm literally going to walk down the street with that blasting on a speaker. The question is, are you on super male vitality pills right now?

Is that what's going on? You know what I did take, though? I will admit, I did take the methylene blue this morning. Hold on. Wait for the drop. Wait for the drop. Yeah. Welcome. All right. You know, that's something we never did on no agenda is play music in the show. I'm like, man, I really wish I could play some old school music. I'm like, what am I thinking? I got this producer made mixes. Might as well use them in the show now and do something different. Yeah, exactly. I guess was that one that played at the last show? I didn't make it to the end of last. No, no, no, no, that's brand new. Nice.

How did, I don't know before we even start with deconstructing the news. Yeah. How did I miss the Freedom 250 Grand Prix being today? I, you know, I had no idea either. My mind has been, I was looking for clips, so I wasn't even looking at, is that race cars? Is that what that is? It's IndyCar, a street race in Washington, D.C. Oh, wow.

I mean, like, yes. I bet the traffic is awesome today. Well, of course, all the, all the, uh, all the, uh, the liberals are complaining how horrible this. But this, I mean, that could not be more Americans. Oh, yeah. And also, do you know anything about racing? Are you a racing guy?

Do you care at all about that stuff? You know, I know you go fast. I know you need a break and you shift. That's about it. Because I think Formula One, and I could be wrong, I think the Formula One cars now also have batteries. Oh, wow. I don't know if they're hybrid.

It's another heavier. Well, they had to go green because, you know, I've got to go green if we're racing in the United Arab Emirates. And I'm like, I think the Indy cars, they just burn fuel and just have explosions. They burn fuel. They burn tires. You know, it's a lot of a lot of fossil fuels in the making. Yes.

I love it. There's nothing like having the straight of Hermose being in dispute over oil. And we're just like burning it in D.C. It's beautiful, man. I want a shot of the car driving past the Lincoln Memorial. That's what I need. You know, you know, Trump's watching it right now. It's so good.

I do have a racing thing, though. I did do a drag race one time. Really? In my mom's 1986 Buick Century that she got from Mary Kaye. Wait, pink. Was that a straight six? It was a straight six. It was a six. Oh, man.

And, man, I caught a second, which I don't know if people know. That's when you peel rubber when you go into second gear. So that's called kidding a second. and I beat my friend had a Caprice Classic. And I blew him away. Wait a because he had too much weight. So your mom was a Mary Kay. What was it like?

She was a sales director. Because if you're at the top of your game, that's when you get one of those pink cars, right? She got three cars from Mary Kay. That's how successful she was. Yeah. And, you know, when I look back at it, I'm like, that's amazing.

Because this was in the 80s and, you know, people maybe had a lot of money or it was, you know, it was a different time. it didn't seem like everybody had disposable income. But she would go out in her business suits and come back and she would hold parties. And it just got bigger and bigger. I love that. Yeah, three cars out of the whole deal.

You can't beat that. No wonder you're an entrepreneur. It's in your blood, man. It came from your mom. That's awesome. Yeah. And she started off as an English teacher. So that's, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing.

And now she's retired and a grandmom. She just loves being a grandmom. Is she nearby? She in Texas? She lives down the street. When I moved to Austin in 98, slowly everyone in my family moved here to Austin. Because I'm like, this place is really cool.

You guys should come. And now it's way too crowded. And I'm like, how do I get out of here? Right. All right. So you got grandma nearby. Yay. Yay.

She's great. That's how you do it. And all the extended family is close by. My brother is probably the furthest now. He's out near Beaumont. But we all kind of went from Louisiana over to Texas. Very nice. Oh, you're from Louisiana. Originally, yes.

On the other side of the highway? Basically, other side of the Sabine River. I mean, we were like 20 miles from Texas. Oh, okay. Always looking to come, always mall shopping in Texas because they had better malls. So I got a clip from several different people, which kind of pertains to you. And I wanted to respond to it and set the record straight and then I have another comment about it. This is from the Alex Jones, Alexjones Live.com show.

Can I mention one last thing and I'll let you go? Well, we're not censoring you. You're doing it. You're doing the thing, brother. Do it a thing? The next caller will do it too. No, you're on the air. Go ahead. Is there any chance you're going to link back up with the Revenge of the cis guys

or Adam Curry from no agenda? Because he's a Rogan guy. He's in Texas. You should really link up with Adam Curry. Yeah, I like Adam. He's really smart. He got smart. Last time he was on my show like 10 years ago, he got a big backlash from his supporters.

No. Oh, my biggest interviews with you, but I can't come on your show. You can't come online. I saw him like three years ago at one of Rogan shows, The Mothership, shook his hands, and how to his wife. I mean, Adam, Adam Curry won't call on the show. Well, he found Christ recently. His co-host, John C. DeVorak just passed away, RIP, and he's got some time now. I think you got a big crossover audience.

Alex, and I think you should take advantage. Well, you're lobbying me. He won't come on the show. So, I mean, once you're going to come on. Refuse. All right. Well, thank you for having me on, Alex. Yeah, you bet.

Thanks for the call. Look, there's this thing. I was the first person to get really censored. And I'm still on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and most things. And I'm only allowed on Rumble and only on Exiton at Alamshone. They came in and took over InfoWords, all that. So people still know, like, it's safe to do anything out there but be with Alex Jones. So I love Adam Curry.

But people are always, they have. this person on that person on they won't come on Joe Rogan's afraid to have me on so and that's fine I'm mad at Joe it's fine he can say everything I say now and be safe but the globalists are like a hunting dog that's after a target globalist

don't get near Jones or you'll get big problems right all right globalists are behind me okay so let me just tell the story this was during the great PayPal de-platforming and Alex asked me to come on I said, brother, right now we're having so many troubles and we can't sell vitality pills.

And if we get kicked off of PayPal, we got a lot of problems. And later, actually, people got so mad at PayPal for another issue that a lot of people just pulled their subscription. So we got hurt regardless. Wow. Brother Alex, I would love to come on again. Absolutely. And I like that he remembered that Tina and I met him at the mothership. His new wife is fan.

He's married to her, right? Is he's new wife? Is he still with her? Second wife. Second, third. There's definitely still together. She was hanging out not too long ago. She's very sweet.

Sweetheart. And so was Alex. Even Tina's like, Alex is a sweetheart. Did you notice his, you know, so I don't know how long ago you saw him, but he was, he's really gotten in shape in the last couple years. Oh, yeah. Oh, of course I saw that. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, he looks like a different person. People were like accusing him of being a clone. I'm like, no, it's the same guy. That's, you know. That's what happens when you lose weight and shave your head. But you look different. But it's true. It's true. They're cloning all the celebrities.

You know this, right? And you have your digital twin. And actually someone like Alex would pay for it so that he could then retire to the bunker in Hawaii. God, the documents is all true. You know, I saw a second half a show clip. I didn't bring it to the show. But it was a guy saying he had a friend who was in the path of a data center. And he calls him up and his friends like, hi, I've moved to Puerto Rico.

Yes, it was a. a number I could not refuse. I'm very happy now. And he's like, that doesn't sound like my friend. He thought he was cloned or, you know, some company stole his voice.

So it was pretty interesting. And you're looking at that. Like, well, you know, it's possible. You know, if,

here's the thing. If humans can think it, it's then possible. Yes. You know, it may not be technologically possible right when they think it, but five,

10, 20, 30 years down the road, you know, all you have to do is come up with the idea. And that's one of the cool things about AI, especially with images, you know, if you think it, you could possibly get a weird looking version of what you're thinking created. But, you know, there's a lot of wokeism in

AI. Oh, I know. And some of it, I mean, not some of it. A lot of it is because of people believing these black boxes actually are telling you the truth. And, you know, they use it as some kind of oracle like, you know, hey, tell me what this is about. And these things are only really good as tools. if you know what the outcome is supposed to be, not as an all-knowing, all-seeing device. But actually, that brings me to the first topic, which as you and I discussed on Thursday, everything, everything, everything is about the midterms.

I don't care what it is. It's all about the midterms. And it's unbelievable how people are falling into it left and right. And the data centers, well, that's one of the big ones. And I can say, if I were the mayor of a town or the governor of a state, and I had a chance to get a big plant in, an AI plant or a data center, I would absolutely want it because the jobs are enormous

and the money paid, the taxes paid are just enormous. President Trump hosted tech leaders at the White House to discuss U.S. efforts on cryptocurrency and artificial intelligence. Trump says the technology is crucial to create more jobs and beat China, but voters have a different perspective. And PR's Deepa Shivaram reports. The president argued that if he were the mayor of a town, he would want an AI data center there for the tax benefits.

But if I were a governor or mayor, I would want that plant in my community. And many of them are designed in a very beautiful way. That puts Trump at odds with the majority of Americans. A gallop poll from March this year said seven in ten Americans oppose an AI data center getting built in their area. Trump and his remarks acknowledged that AI data centers could use a quote, little public relations help. But his stance underscores how his perception of the technology differs from voters concerns, which could be a top issue in the midterm elections this year.

Yeah, there it is. Top issue. Yes. It's making a top issue. So do you go to a church out there in Drifwood? Yes. It's an Episcopal church. Did you go this morning? No. Bad boy. I know. So we go to church early on Sunday morning. And this data center thing, this like this confluence of messaging that is just come together to the point where very rational people completely believe that data centers are pretty much demonic. I mean, that's the word I hear. They're going to take all the water. They're going to take all the electricity, which, you know, some of that is true. They are going to use a lot of electricity. We're covering that at the last show. Definitely some of that is true. But there's this, these additional things that have come in. And first of all, AI is all under control of

Peter Thiel. Palantir is using AI and they're going to control everybody, kill everybody. They kill everybody who's not a Jew. They're the only company doing it. The only company. They're not even an AI frontier company. But, you know, in fact, they do quite the opposite. But that, this is like the Whitney Webb thing. It all comes back to Peter Thiel and the PayPal Mafia. And then the, what's the Epstein? It all comes back to that. And then you add in this one extra bit, which actually saw you, I have not heard your clips, of course, but, You brought in some clips, I think, which will be relevant. Now people add the flock camera.

So now these data centers are going to be filled with surveillance on us. Skynet is here. We're going to be completely controlled. We'll be digitized. And the antichrist is in the data centers. And this is just not true. It's just not true. Well, and if they want to track you, they're already tracking you through the phone you carry around.

And they're posting their fears on Instagram and TikTok, which is the literal Skynet. No, they're posting their crimes. They're like, let's cut down these flock cameras, which I think is, I was going to say this after I played some of these clips. But that's the sciop of, hey, go cut down your local flock camera. Nothing will happen. I'm like, there's somebody running this thing to create a flock protection system because then it's going to become really bad. You know, like right now it's just vandalism. Well, now it's going to be, now you're messing with infrastructure.

and it's going to be some weird thing where they turn it around and go, now we're going to get you and it's 20 years in prison for touching a flock camera. That's what I think. Well, that's an interesting take. Well, that's where it leads. It always leads to that. We've got to create something protected. So this is the surveillance system that we're creating or who's creating.

We don't know. But there's other companies out there other than flock that are doing the same thing. How about Amazon? But we don't hear about it. How about Amazon with the ring doorbells, which everyone is. gladly put on their on their home right and now they're clairvoyant they can see in boxes what are these uh flock clips you got so the the first one let's see let's go to well let's see i got i got a vader on flock let's start with vader on flock this is

darth vader goes to a city council meeting and he's voicing his support for fly cameras i was looking for people initially bitching about it but i'm like i don't know these clips are kind of funnier of the people being sarcastic and promoting flock. So we'll start with later. The emperor is a fan of flock. And we must continue utilizing flock technologies so that we can follow and surveil the rebel scum as they move from playground to playground, from playground to pool, from pool to gymnasium.

Because we all know that the flock cameras are not only following the license plate readers. They are following children. They are following children in parks and gymnasiums. And we need this. I need this so I can stock my ex-girlfriend. I saw this guy. He was great.

I got to ask Rob the constitutional lawyer. I mean, I'm not so sure. I mean, I know that municipalities are getting rid of them everywhere. City councils are going, hey, you know, we made a mistake here. There was, and I grew up with this nonsense in Europe with traffic cameras. and, you know, at a certain, where it actually led to with them, like in the Netherlands, it used to be flitzpiler, so flash poles they'd call them, which is obviously a camera. Oh, crap, I got flash.

So then you just get a fine. Oh, you'd actually see the flash as you drive by and you're like, oh, man, I got hot. I got flash, exactly. But then they changed it. They changed it to these sensors with, let's say, maybe five. kilometers in between. And so they, they clock you when you hit the entry on the highway. And if you hit the exit too soon, then they, then boom, you're done.

You clearly were speeding in the interim. So they have these, these sections of highway where they're just clocking you. You know, the opposite of Indy or NASCAR is not how, you have to go exactly the right speed. And I, you know, it's working over there. It's stupid. But people like, oh, I might as well just slow down here. I just go, oh, well, here's Rob the constitutional lawyer. He's checking in right away.

He's listening. Oh, good. Are you about to ask them whether there's any expectation of privacy on a public road? Well, you know what I'm asking you. I'm asking you, but what to can, because to ask that question is to answer it. I guess public. Okay. I thought that, you know, isn't that trapping you?

Is that entrapment? No, he's going to have to write me a brief, a brief. Well, where it gets interesting is they, you know, they take this stuff and then they hold it and then. Right. And some of these police departments, the police departments are tracking their ex-girlfriends. I think that's a small minority, obviously. But they'll use it for other things. Like a crime was committed and you were seen on this road at that time.

Yeah. Not for speeding purposes, but you are seen there. So we're going to come and question you. And there's video of that of cops going to people's houses and questioning them. They're like, you stole a package. And she's like, I drove through that neighborhood because it's a shortcut. And they're like, nope, you stole a package off this lady's front porch. Yeah.

What else you got here on the flocks? All right. So we got, now we have, I'm assuming this lady's a mom because he just kind of gave out the mom vibe. She's sarcastic mom on flock one, and she's basically, you know, doing the same thing that Vader's doing. But she's got a different twist on it. And I kind of like this twist. And I'm all for, you know, if we're going to do this to everybody, then let's, you know, if we're going to put plot cameras on the on the trails and everywhere that we can possibly think about. Well, let's, let's make sure they're in front of our public servants homes. He'll probably remember me. I was at the last meeting in opposition to flock. but after seeing the recent data coming from the sheriff's office,

I'm going to call for more clock cameras. Double, triple even. I want the most that we can possibly have. I'm requesting they be placed in the commissioner's office in front of the commissioner's houses. I want them at the sheriff's office in front of the sheriff's house, and I want them in front of every government employee's house. This wasn't an issue pointing one at my driveway,

so it shouldn't be a problem, right? Anytime the sheriff, commissioner, government employee, leaves their house, a drone should detach from the camera and follow them wherever they go. This is for safety and to protect you. Don't worry. It's just a license plate reader. No big deal. I'm not lying to you.

You can trust us. We're here to help. I like that. And that kind of dovetails into JCDs. He wanted cameras in the classrooms. Here's Rob the Constitutional lawyer. He says, the Fourth Amendment does not apply unless you have an expectation of privacy. Creepy, overbearing, absolutely. Unconstitutional.

Sadly, no. The Fourth Amendment prohibits unlawful searches and seizures. Let's play your second clip, your second mom clip here. We can also use unique identification numbers in real time as you move. Tracking things like your Bluetooth, your car GPS, heck, even your dog's microchip. And no, this is definitely not a slippery slope. of constitutional liberty, just because some judge, who works for the government, maybe might say so. In addition, we could add an extra layer of security, and every government employee email and phone

could have a digital online clone. That way, every taxpayer can go in, view your text messages, listen to your phone calls, see your search history, and listen to your voicemails on that device. If you don't have anything to hide, it shouldn't be a problem, right? We'll only store this data for 30 days, though. totally honest about this. For the low price of a few hundred thousand dollars, why not spend the extra money surveilling the government? Their use of our tax dollars and everything

funded by them. If you're not willing to have this transparency as a public servant while you erect a surveillance state around citizens, then you're a hypocrite. Y'all stay blessed. Thank you. I love the ending. You all stay blessed. Rob continues, if the camera can see

inside your car, you may have an interesting question. The question will again turn on whether you have an expectation of privacy in your car. And I just say that the final point is that everybody is freely giving their location, their data, their communications with a non-exclusive license to have that data copied and reproduced and replicated and remixed and done whatever, and sold and sold to whoever wants to buy it. So this is just like a red herring almost. Like, oh, I'm so upset about this. But

you shouldn't use a single app. The apps are what are doing it. And maybe this will lead to that. Maybe people will start looking at their phones and going, wait a minute. No. No. No. No. No. They won't. They love it too much. And it's easier just a bitch

about flock. It's, I mean, you can't go to a city council meeting if you can't put it on Instagram. What's the point? That's true. I'm sure that this mom thought that as well. And the crazy thing is, is that this so-called incredibly intelligent, artificial intelligence, is really, I mean, here's, this is just a clip that I pulled to help people understand how the corpus, how the, how a lot of this recognition is actually done and who does it. A lot of people see artificial intelligence as something that is largely automated, frictionless, and just appears.

useful tool for us, but most of the human hours that go into making artificial intelligence possible are not done in labs in Google or Open AI. The majority of the work is actually very piecemeal data annotation work, which is outsourced to various locations in the global south, everywhere from India to East Africa to the Philippines, where this data annotation work is undertaken by an army of millions of workers across the globe. Now, just to give you some context, this data annotation could include something like annotating a street scene for an autonomous vehicle.

So drawing a box around what is a tree, what is a child, what is a street sign, so that as you're training an autonomous vehicle to essentially see the road, the algorithm that powers it will be able to learn the difference between these objects. And this doesn't happen on its own or automatically. This requires hundreds and thousands of human labor hours at what I call digital sweatshops,

which are located all across the globe. And this is often done in very substandard labor conditions. And the whole process of hiring these workers and outsourcing the work to them really mirrors in a lot of ways the outsourcing revolution that happened in manufacturing and IT. And I think when it comes to things like coffee or chocolate or our clothes, I think a lot of listeners would be aware that this is part of a global supply chain. And I think what we need to realize is that advanced technology like artificial intelligence is still part of these global supply chains. And I'm going to push back on this dude. I know a guy who has a company and he actually had this in the very beginning of value.

for value with podcasting 2.0 with streaming Satoshis. It was a company called Sphinx. And they actually had set up this, they were very excited about the lightning payment system because they had an entire army of people working in the Philippines, which is not a third world country. There's a lot of issues for sure. And these people would do exactly what was described,

you know, cat, that deer, human, bicycle. in essence, the other side of your captious, but doing it for artificial intelligence. And they would get paid micropayments per completed assignment. And they were able to take that, converted it into gas cards, gift cards, cards for local supermarkets. And they were doing phenomenally well. And I don't know if they're still in business. I presume they are. So that's actually not all that crazy and not all that bad.

But this is just another part of it. Oh, their digital sweatshops. By the way, there's a lot of people in America who do this work, too. A lot of people. My daughter did some, she was doing all kinds of stuff for Google for a while during COVID. All kinds of, you know, tagging, recognizing. I mean, it was everywhere. It was just, it was like a great little side gig.

But somehow. I always find it interesting those captions now. Now they want you to do three or four in a row before the website will let you check it out. But it used to just be one. Now it's like, no, no, no, here's another picture. Identify these cars. You know, okay. It's so crazy that I have to convince a robot that I'm not a robot.

I mean, there's something so wrong with that. So these data centers, which I truly believe will not actually be functional as data centers. We heard on the last show, if you didn't go back and listen to the guy from Irka, or not from Ircob, but the Energy Commission in Texas. Yeah, in Turkey, Texas. Turkey, Texas. that they're looking for stranded powers. That's power that can't even get into the grid

because it would overload the transport lines to the grid itself. And so the data centers, they're smart. You know, like, hey, I want to create a base load. You can power my machines and then I can sell off some excess capacity when it's not needed or not at night or when there's no wind. Yes, there have been some projects that took, especially in Virginia, or the Alexandria of Virginia area

where all the existing data centers are, yeah, they start to suck more power. But now it's just seen as this evil, evil thing. And I'll reiterate, this is a boondoggle, a bonanza, get your kid. They will take anybody who wants to work. They'll teach them a skill,

teach them how to weld, teach him how to be an electrician, teach them how to wire stuff, teach them how to get coffee for all I care. Just like the oil boom, this is a great opportunity. It's only going to last a couple of years. The data centers are not evil inherently. But this is now turned into a sci-up, which is anti-Republican.

And the Republicans are doing it to themselves. This is the thing that's so crazy. Like, well, I can't vote for anybody who's for data centers. Texas Governor Greg Abbott once dubbed his state the epicenter of AI development. That truly is a Texas-sized investment in our state. An ABC News analysis found Texas is now among the states with the most data centers, with more than 300 in operation and at least 200 more in the pipeline. But as opposition grows in Texas communities...

This is my investment, my home, and it's being ruined. The issue royals the governor's re-election campaign. Greg Abbott. Abbott took 20 million in campaign donations from data center executives and companies and he gave them billions in tax break. Abbott now reversing course. We must prohibit them from building AI dentist centers in rural Texas neighborhoods. Putting a freeze on new data center projects as the state audits them for energy, water usage, and tax incentives.

A move President Trump called a mistake. For Texas to say no to data centers is a mistake in the sense that it could be bigger than oil. Wow. So none of these guys, including the president, understand. anything at all about this stuff, or the fact that the frontier model companies, which means they're the leaders of burning money, that they are the ones themselves who have scared everybody about, oh, well, it's going to break in everything, it's going to bring down entire systems, and that's super cyber hacking, and it's going to steal your Bitcoin, going to break into your bank

account, which is backfiring on them in a tremendous way where the new anthropic fable used to be called Mythos, they rebranded as a fable. No one's using it. It's too expensive. We're like, we're not going to use that crap. We can use the cheap stuff from China. This is fantastic. We can load onto our computers and run ourselves. We can load it on our own little, cheaper. Our own little data center here in our homes. So Abbott, who doesn't understand anything at all. And yes, small towns, that's what happens in small towns. You get a bonanza, you get the small town. They get a factory.

They get something that brings jobs to that area. Yes. That happens all the time. It happened with the railroads. And it's so, steel, thank you. It's so analogous to the railroads because, yeah, lots of tracks are going to be laid and all those companies will go out of business. And many, many, many years later, we might be able to use it for something.

Bitcoin. It's a mall. You're making them all? All kinds of great opportunities. But Governor Abbott, he doesn't know what he's talking about. And now he's trying to play the political battle. And I think he's coming off as an idiot. He was on the ABC this morning.

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott once vowed to make his state the quote epicenter of the AI industry. Now he has put in place a moratorium on data center construction. That issue, along with inflation and anxiety about the, Iran war is among the factors that have Texas Republicans nervous about the midterms. Nervous. A nonpartisan Cook political report, which rates elections across the country, this week rated the Texas Senate race a toss-up, suggesting Democrats have a real chance of winning a seat they

haven't won in decades. We traveled to Austin to talk to the lone star state's most powerful Republican, a leader who is also facing a tougher than expected campaign for re-elect. as governor. Governor Abbott, thank you for having us. I'm great to have you in Texas. So how much anger and concern are you hearing out there about data centers? So what we've been focused on is responding to concerns that have been raised about data centers

and making sure that we've created a structure that's going to do more than any state to solve the problem. As governor, I have outlined the greatest detail and most comprehensive plan of any governor in the United States of America to respond. to the Data Center Challenge. Humana, humana, humana. The Data Center Challenge. You know, if he actually knew what he was talking about,

this is an opportunity for the American people to take money from Black Rock, from Vanguard, from Google, from Meta, take their money. I got an example of this, too, a big example. So I got, we got some friends that live in Alexandria right outside of D.C. And they live in this beautiful neighborhood. You know, the houses are big compared to, I would say, upper, upper, upper middle class standards. You know, maybe these are 1.5 million, $2 million houses. I don't know what they'd be.

That's what they'd be in Texas. Up there, they're probably more, you know, probably close to $3 million. But these, everyone in this neighborhood, and they're surrounded by data centers, you drive out of their neighborhood, data center, data center, diner center. It's just giant big buildings. And so, obviously, the data. centers want to absorb this neighborhood. They're given these people $4 million at home, $4 million for their house. And then they're just going to bulldoze these houses and put a

data center up, which is, I'm like, I can't believe that that, I mean, it's a boondoggle for everybody in the neighborhood. They're like, sure, we'll move for that much. Yes, of course. Then it becomes, then it's like, where do you, then you could go, where do we want to go? Well, like, what's our dream place to go to? Because then you have dream money at that point to to use and go, go, you know, plant your flag somewhere else. And so people like, oh, government money. This is not government money. This is private money.

This is private equity. They're raising huge money in bonds. This is the way to screw Wall Street. I'm telling you, you can go back in a few years and buy your house back for $750,000. Well, you, or if it's not been bulldozed, but, or you can buy the dip in the market. When the market, you know, drops, you can. There's so much opportunity here. Because everyone knows this bubble is going to blow up.

This is the same thing with Metropolitan Fiber in the 90s. You know, all this money, just tons and hundreds of billions of dollars went into, it was more like hundreds of millions, but that's billions today. Went into fiber being laid everywhere. And only now, only now. What are it? 25 years later. finally getting used.

Do I get it here in rural, quote unquote, rural Texas, 80 miles outside of Austin? And there's no eminent domain. The railroads was eminent domain. Screw you. We're going right through you. The guys who were in oil and gas, who are already making out like bandits, you know, it's not gas there burning, flaring off in the fields that you see creating, you know, dangerous greenhouse gases.

It's methane. methane that they cannot transport because there's no pipelines going from the gas fields to wherever it needs to go. It's not affordable. But look at what they can do and what they are doing. Data centers are going near near the gas fields. Oh, well, I can take this methane. Oh, okay, that's extra.

It is for the, I think a once in a lifetime opportunity where money is being transferred from the incredibly wealthy rich to people who, could use a break. But you got to be opportunistic. You got to be like an American. We do this all the time in America. This state sucks. I'm moving to another state. Oh, there's no opportunity here. I'm moving to that state where there's an opportunity. This happens all the time. This is our entire history. Well, that's why Texas is growing so much. People are coming here for the jobs, for the opportunity. And the only thing I could see is there are some anecdotal stories about the noise of these data centers next to neighborhoods.

And, you know, one guy showed something about his cow, he had a live cowbirth. But you're not seeing a lot of those. You're not seeing a ton of people saying that. You're getting a story here and there. And they may have some validity to them. Absolutely. So it's just a matter of. And I don't really mind Texas going, hey, we're going to take a pause.

And we're going to look at these concerns and see what happens to see if there is an overlap of that. But I don't think it's going to last very long. It's, you know, we've had the. But that's not even why. is being done because they're afraid of losing the midterms. Well, sure, that's only until after the midterms. Then the study will be complete.

And they're going to be like, yeah, here come the data centers. Here's our governor with new rules. Let me tell you what I've done. And I have pressed pause on any new data center being able to join the operations in the state of Texas. Other governors have done the same. And well, here's the deal. During that pause, I have set guidelines and guardrails that all data centers have to comply with. Number one, they must identify what water usage they're demanding.

It may clear they are not taking water from communities they need it. Number two, they must not take power from the Texas power grid that's needed. Number three, no one's taking power from the Texas grid governor. That's, oh man. It must actually lower the cost of electricity for consumers. They will. Number four, they need to make sure that they are not disturbing. neighborhoods or rural communities.

These are standards that are now being universally applied by all the data centers in the state of Texas. Do you have a co-op for your power where you are? We're under, yeah, it's not, oh, I can't think of the name of it right now. But it's, it has to do with the LCR.

It's a, but it's a co-op for like Eastern Hayes County. Okay. But we have a co-op here too. And they're like, man, this is a great. When are you going to hook up some kind of data center out here in the hill country where nobody lives? And then, you know, build your power generator. We'll take it. Well, you know, one thing I'm not good for is I don't even know what my electric bill is because my wife takes care of all that.

But when we moved into the house, I did put solar on the house and mainly just because we had gone through the time where all the power went out, that winter storm in 2021. Yep. Where, you know, people lost power. And I'm like, you know what? We'll at least be able to charge cell phones and keep our refrigerators running. with this. It's not going to power everything in the house, but it'll do good enough. And that's why I got it, even though it's never probably going to make its money back. But for me, it was, I could be traveling. And if something goes wrong, we're going to have some power.

Yeah, we have, we got to, we were in the same, same situation in Austin, no power for five days. We couldn't get out because of the ice in a cul-de-sac on a kind of a, like a, on a hill, yeah, 23-degree incline. We couldn't get out. And so when we got here, like, I don't care what we're doing. I am buying a whole house generas. I got one of those generics. It's expensive. It's an investment for sure. Sure.

But man, the power has never gone out since. And with the generators, it's cool. You can see what it pops on. It's like you'll feel the power goes out. Maybe half a second or whatever. Then the thing kicks on and it's going. Yeah. And you hear this big clunk.

That's the big switch that happens. By the way, Indiana, we have family in Indiana. They are still without power. That's amazing. Right near Geary, which of course is a very poor area. And, you know, Texas definitely has done better than that. Here's, we'll continue with now that the hate. What is driving the hate for the data centers?

I mean, we see it not just in Texas. We see it all over the country. I mean, some of these town hall meetings, some of these public hearings, real anger. What is driving it? Is it the energy costs? Is it the, what is driving the anger? So, what are talking to people? One thing is the rapidity.

that these data centers are coming online that people didn't see coming. The other is the way that the data centers, they didn't do their job to get the support of people in local communities. Gaining the support of people in local communities is essential. Because they did not do that, that's why I am now coming in as governor

saying, listen, if you're a data center and you want to operate in Texas, you have to first get the approval of those in local communities. And that's why I sit that standard No data centers disturbing local communities in Texas. It was last year that you said that Texas was the epicenter of the AI industry. In hindsight, did Texas move too fast? It wasn't Texas that was moving fast.

It was these data centers. But they needed approval from the government. Well, so what data centers were doing, and this is the problem that we are facing here in Texas, but you mention what's going on nationally. Sure. And that is, they pop up in places that nobody ever heard of before until they started the construction. And so they had not been working in collaboration with the state. They had not been working in collaboration with local governments.

And so they basically dug their own grave for the problem that's been caused for them. And that's why they got the backlash they deserve. And that's why these new standards are in place to make sure they're not going to be able to operate until they come into compliance with the standards that I have set. I'm telling you, this is just a si-op. Democratic Party has done a great job in these Republican states. You know, that's totally true. If they had gone and done something like an Operation Lockstep and figured out the messaging and then rolled it out the right way and then hired Willie Nelson to make songs about data centers, you know, that's what they didn't do.

They didn't do it the right way. They're like, Willie, Willie, here's the new song. Remind us of Operation Lockstep. What was that? Well, so that took place, I think, in 2010, and that was a Johns Hopkins thing. And it was basically, if we're going to have a pandemic, this is how we're going to operate. These is how we roll out messages to the media. They also had the Spars 2020-something of Spars agenda.

Oh, yeah. And that had a lot of actual, like, tweets that you could, you look at these tweets at there, and they were fake and part of the exercise. Copy paste. Copy paste the tweets. But then they're in the real world. And they're like, we're going to get rappers to tell people. people to take the vaccine. And Dolly Parton.

Dolly Parton. And then when there's problems, we'll admit it a few years later and we'll kind of bury it, which is that's the part that's kind of happening now is with the vaccine. They're like, yeah, there were some problems, but, you know, that's the way. We didn't know at the time. Well, hey, it's me. I'm finally going to get my vaccine. I'm so excited.

I've been waiting a while. I'm old enough to get it. And I'm smart enough to get it. So I'm very happy that I'm going to get my mom. Madurna shot. Madurna shot. And I wanted to tell everybody, I think you should get out there and do it too. I haven't changed one of my songs.

Oh, yeah. It goes, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. I'm begging of you, please don't hesitate. Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. Because once you're dead, then that's a bit too late. Oh, my goodness. That's messaging right there. That's what they didn't do.

these data centers didn't hire the right public relations firm. Well, before this, it was the best, the B-E-S, the battery energy storage, or big energy storage systems. Oh, God, that would never work. That was a, well, we had one in the next county. I might have been Kendall County. I can't remember. And, you know, and that was a big deal.

And now it's the mosque. And it's always going to be something. And I still don't know where the sleeper cells are of military age men. from China who are going to attack us from within. I still, that just, no one's concerned about that anymore. Well, they're all in US colleges at this point. That seems to be, I have some NTD clips about that very subject. Okay.

That we could get to whatever. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, so, NTD, China, US College one. The World Health Organization has very painful decisions to make, according to its chief. He described the large sudden drop in funding in U.S. foreign aid as severe. Well, that's the wrong clip.

I must have given you the wrong clip or renamed it wrong. Well, which clip? This is like a three and a half minute clips. Oh, wait, how about if it's here? Maybe it starts here. Hold on. Let me see. This might be it, Rob.

Hold on. I think I see your problem. The Pentagon is ordering several universities to audit infiltration from the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign adversaries. Just how entrenched has the CCP become in higher education? And at these Washington correspondent, Jack Bradley, has more. The Department of War this week, notifying 30 universities they must audit their ties to foreign adversaries by the end of the month. Multiple outlets citing U.S. officials report Harvard, MIT, Georgetown, and other top schools are among them.

These schools partner with universities or research facilities in China, Russia, or Iran, the Pentagon specifically naming China's rebranded Confucius institutes, which promote communist party sanctioned materials on the American campuses. Congressman John Molinar, Chairman of the Select Committee on China, says these partnerships pose undeniable national security risks. Some analysts say infiltrating higher education is part of the Communist Party's playbook, a tactic it used a century ago to take power in China. The Chinese Communist Party views infiltration of higher education as a key factor to overcome an enemy. What they did 100 years ago to the nationalist was first elite capture and simultaneously grassroots activism to move things in the direction of the Chinese Communist Party. Here we are 100 years later, and it looks like we're watching a replay. You know, I'm surprised that no one has made the, again, if you and I were doing the PR, I mean, I'd say, hey, you know, all these DSA socialists, they're clearly being controlled by China.

by the sleeper cells, Confucius Institute. No one's making that point. No one's making that connection. It's such an obvious one. No, it seems, you know, people are, I think people got pissed when Trump said we're going to let, you know, China send in a few hundred thousand, six or her thousand. 400,000. Yeah, it was a decent size number. And people were going, hey, that's going to just prop up this current system that's creating, you know, the social justice warrior pipeline.

you're taking people from high school who are basically normal and then you know they come out with blue hair and nose rings and and you know and so there is some there is some validity to that but i don't think it's i don't think that's what you're getting from china necessarily you're getting china's probably well in clip two it it goes through there's a general or i guess they were auditing a class that was the pentagon was putting on for you know top secret military work and they go in there and and it's being taught in Mandarin Chinese, which I thought that was interesting. That's clip two. With Pentagon funded projects being taught directly to Chinese nationals. Department of Defense at the time had funded a class on advanced weaponry at a major Midwestern university. And when they walked in to do the spot check in the class,

they were teaching the class in Mandarin to not U.S. students. So the program was ended. But it is still happening in different places in our country. Yeah. Well, this, of course, is NTD who just hate everything China. Oh, yeah. They definitely do. And I mean, everything was anti-Chinese. They had what it was like Chinese voter fraud. I'm like, oh, what's this? It's one guy that they caught. And he basically voted. I have this clip. He voted for his neighbor or whatever. And then he tried to turn in his neighbor for voting illegally. But his neighbor actually could have voted if he wanted to because he had a, he was legal.

Oh, sorry. Go ahead. A Chinese National has been charged with. with voter fraud in Massachusetts. The Justice Department says he submitted a fraudulent voter registration and ballot by impersonating another Chinese national. The DOJ alleges 33-year-old Upin Sun voted in the 2024 presidential election in the name of his victim, who was a lawful permanent resident. After registering to vote and casting a ballot, Sun allegedly sent a tip to Homeland Security investigations in 2026, claiming his victim voted illegally. Son has also been accused of submitting two fraudulent immigration forms on behalf of his victim and the victim's wife. The DOJ says the couple had their green cards confiscated as a result.

Son faces charges of fraudulent voter registration and fraudulent voting. Each count carries up to five years in prison, along with a possible fine of up to $250,000. The DOJ says son will be deported afterwards. You know, we were watching the West Wing again last night. We're now in season four. This is, and it's, it's so, so odd to watch this because this is where Martin Sheen, who's the president, he's running for re-election, he has MS, he's got multiple sclerosis, which they hid.

Oh, he's trying to hide it, yeah. And then they, you know, so he got censured by Congress and, but he basically lied about it. And so there's a lot of Joe Biden type stuff. in there. It's like, wow, this is... It's like they knew. So it's very odd, but the crazy thing was, this is season for, I think, episode 7 or whatever. It's re-election

night. And they have the election results and they call it at 11 p.m. Eastern Time. How dare they? It's like, wait a minute. We haven't counted the California mailing ballots. This is no good. We need one more month.

It's so bizarre. Just like and what is that? That's 20. a little more than 20 years ago. And we're now where we are today. That's just, that's so insane. You know, Florida had their election results like by 7, 38 o'clock that night. I mean, it was, I'm like, why can't, why can't everybody do it like Florida? They were done.

We already knew. The only thing that was weird, it looked like Dan Blasarian had votes taken from him. They showed some votes at one point and he had like 8,000. Then the next drop, they're like, hey, he's down to 6,000. So that was, that was the only, uh, co-winky-dink that I saw in that that election. But that's, you know, and who knows what this, what any of this stuff means. But this Chinese thing, you know, it's one guy and he was basically trying to get his neighbor kicked out of the country.

It wasn't even, had none to do with politics, which is interesting because, you know, you're like, what are the reasons of voter fraud? You think, well, we want to install this certain person, you know, this is how we're going to do it. We're going to give this guy all the votes with the voting machines. But here, you know, you have a Chinese guy going in and going, hey, I'm trying to get rid of my neighbor. I don't, I don't like his cooking or whatever. Who knows why. But he was trying to get him kicked out. And that was the way to do it, which is completely antithetical for every other reason you think people would commit voter fraud.

The straight of Hormuz is still hotly contested. We've moved towards a strategy of more economic. pressure, which I even got a note from our producer in Bahrain. He says, this is working. It's, you know, UAE is also cutting off all economic ties. And that's your general Scott Patton Besant at work, shutting everything down. And it's starting to now just be obvious. obvious that we have been in control of the strait or Hormuz.

I don't care what people think they're reading or what, and this is all to keep oil prices elevated for oil companies who are having just an incredible bonanza profit year on all of this. But we're close to parity in what's being transported through the, through the Straits of Hormuz, as well as through the pipelines, probably about 20% less. but that shouldn't, you know, result in these high prices. That will rectify itself eventually. Now, here's a couple of clips about it. Well, we have things that we could sanction.

We have very draconian sanctions and we'll see what happened. Did he say caconian? He said draconian. He said draconian sanctions. It sounds like caconian. We have very draconian. It sounds like caconian. I think you're missing the first part.

It's like jaconian. Things that we could sanction. We have a very draconian sanctions, and we'll see what happens right now. The straight is open. We have a lot of boats are coming through. Boats? Boats. We've got a lot of boats coming through.

I got my outboard motor. At my flat bottom boat. We've got two barrels of oil on it. Let's go. A lot of boats are coming through. People aren't reporting that, and that may slow down a little bit at some point. But right now, a lot of boats are coming through. The naval blockade has been extremely effective.

zero. I mean, literally while it's up, and it's been for quite a while, you know, except for a couple of little pauses where we opened it purposely with a deal, but the deal didn't turn out to be what they said, you know, and they tell us one thing and they do another. But the blockade has been 100% successful. No boats have gotten into Iran, but they are getting in for other places. But we'll see. We're going to see what happens. It'll either be extremely good and oil prices are going to drop like Iraq or will continue to do exactly what we're doing. You know, they were talking about $300. Wait a minute. I'm trying to understand the logic. It'll be very successful. We continue to do what we're doing. It's going to be great. Be extremely good and oil prices are going to drop like

a rock or will continue to do exactly what we're doing. You know, they were talking about $350 a barrel and it's today $84, 85. Yeah, and also to be, you know, factual about it, I remember during the course of this show, oil was above 100 back in wow, the 2-10s, I think, the teens? Yeah, there was a point during Obama's presidency where I actually rode my bike

to a band practice I was in because I'm like, I don't feel like driving. The gas was like four something a gallon. It was ridiculous. That was like 15 years ago. Yeah, I think I was in California at the time and it was $6.00. It was very expensive, $6 or $7.

It was very expensive, $6 or $7. Here is, this is on CNN, the colonel from CENTCOM, and he's confirming that 10 million barrels a day are moving through the Omani route. Sencom has quietly guided 10 million barrels of oil a day in a self-operation, setting up a shipping corridor, hugging the coastline of Oman. You know, that's more than 80% of the liquids transiting through the Hormuz straight over the past two weeks have taken this Omani route. that's about two-thirds of pre-war levels. The U.S. has been blinding Iranian radars and blanking them out and shooting down Iranian drones and cruise missiles. We're showing the tracking here of hugging the Oman coastline there,

bypassing Iran here. What do you make of this? So this is great to be able to finally talk about this and see this in some graphics. Because what's happening is... Everybody who's in the Straits of Hormuz, particularly the U.S. military, knows that the Iranians do not have control of it, and they haven't closed it.

Meanwhile, the U.S. blockade is closing off all traffic to Iran, but letting out any other traffic that's not. Current ship tracking shows 10 to 15 ships a day for the last several months have been getting through the straits. And so those are, this is what's happening is the Navy's doing his job. And even CBS, the Cajun Navy delivering oil now. CBS confirms that this is what CENTCOM says is true. Well, President Trump says the U.S. controls that critical. oil shipping route known as a Strait of Formuz, Iran says that very same thing. Same assertion. They control the straight. Well, here's what the president had to say about the

straight standoff. And they tell us one thing and they do another. But the blockade has been 100% successful. No boats have gotten into Iran, but they are getting in for other places. So the president might have been referring to this report from Axios, revealing a stealth operation. Our boys are axioles now. barrels of oil through the straight. Two officials told Axios, the U.S. military helps empty tankers enter the Gulf to get the oil and then leave under U.S. protection. Live now to CBS News, senior national security correspondent Charlie Daggeta, Charlie,

what do you know about this? Well, first of all, Reid, we don't have to hang on Axios anymore. I can confirm those reports. Okay, hold on a second. Axios, the shills for the Trump administration is we don't have to rely on them. It's true. Know about this. Well, first of all, Reid, we don't have to hang in on. on Axios anymore. I can confirm those reports, folks that I spoke to as Central Command, and the Navy said that the U.S. military and part of the naval blockade is to try to ensure

the safe passage of ships along the Strait of Hormuz, both in and out of the straight. And they said that they have been repeatedly intercepting Iranian drones and missiles trying to target those ships. Okay. Well, I do have a better description of Trump saying, and he has a great pronunciation of Hormuz. Trump Hormuz is USA from, and this is from a rally he did over the weekend. So we went down and we stopped them. They'll never have a nuclear weapon. They want to make a deal so badly. We don't even know if we want because I view the Strait of Hormos is an American territory right now. It's an American territory. Hormose. Hormose. We're going to call it. We've been calling the Straits of Hormuz for a long time, Mr. President. That's wonderful.

So he said that was the that was a rally I guess he took he did over the over the weekend but you know he's he's calling it a U.S. territory. He put out a tweet or a post, a true social post and it showed the circle there. It's like U.S. territory. Yes. He's saying this is ours. We can do what we want with it. I saw another headline in the last couple days where now it's up to 15 million barrels a day. So they're ramping it up. Oh yeah. I think it just took time and they probably had to identify coastal spots where were the Iranians. we're going to target planes from or target the ships from. And so taking those out, now they can do this. And the Oman side's apparently a lot deeper than the Iranian side in the straight by like three times deeper. Yeah, it's a lot deeper over there. Yeah. So it's only, they say, 20 to 60 meters on the Iranian side. And then it's like 100 meters down on the other side.

So it's a lot deeper. Well, we're being ripped off and we're being ripped off by. the oil trade. We just are. Sure, they're using the crisis as, you know, they're never letting it go to waste. You know, the ICE, the ICE exchange is run by the UK. And we got greedy oil guys in Texas, too, you know, for the WTI.

Here's an example on, I think this is CNBC. We have an analyst who knows everything about everything, obviously. Let's bring in Aleema-C-Craft head of Global Commodity Strategy at RBC Capital Market. Salima, happy Friday. Thanks for the time. Good to see you. Thank you for having me. So we've been putting sanctions

Thank you for having me. I'm ready. I'm waiting to see the oil go up. Iran off and on for decades. How do you think this new chapter might be different? I mean, is it going to be different this time? I mean, Iran is one of the most sanctioned countries in the world? The question is, is this going to change Iran's behavior? Or do the Iranian leadership believe that they can outlast us at this point, that we want this war to end before they do?

I mean, I do think that the double blockade is clearly hurting Iranian oil. The question is, what more can be done? Are we really going to go after Russia and China, which helped Iran militarily? I mean, that remains. What? Why do we have to do that? They're not, they are not supporting Iran at all anymore. China ran away immediately.

Russia's like, no, okay. They're busy, getting ready to obliterate Ukraine. Right. And the analyst is like, why haven't they gone and started wars? with these guys. It's going after them. Like, what are we doing here? Well, exports, the question is, what more can be done?

Are we really going to go after Russia and China, which helped Iran militarily? I mean, that remains to be seen. I've never heard that happening before. A bigger country helping out a smaller country during a war? I don't know. Where does that happen? I've never heard of that. I think there's a view that Iran believes that they can outlast us.

Here's what the Treasury Secretary Halima said yesterday on the show about what they're going to announce. If we are doing the maximum economic pressure, then that means that likely there will not be a large-scale kinetic restart. But I would emphasize that that is for now. And we do have control of the street. Scott Besson, as much as I like what he's doing, he is just, he sucks as a public speaker. He really can't. He's a stutterer.

Oh, he's trying to figure out the right words each time instead of like just preparing something. I just look at him speak and I can only see Elizabeth Warren's face. It's something about, he just looks like Elizabeth Warren. This woman continues, I think. So, Alima, I mean, this sort of newfound posture, you think it works? Look, Iran is still firing on ships in the Strait of Hormuz. Yes, the U.S. is escorting some chips through the Amani Channel, but Iran still has clear capabilities to fire missiles at ships to...

What missiles? No, they may have drones. I don't think they have missiles left. To fire missiles at ships, to do drone strikes on infrastructure in the region. I mean, look at what has happened to Kuwait in terms of power plants being hit. De-ination facilities being hit. So Iran still has significant disruptive capabilities. You know, I got some feedback from some parents of people on the USS Lincoln on boats,

really big, beautiful boats. and I understand. They're like, the show criticize this. I'm like, no, it was a naval. It's just my father-in-law. A naval aviator and a Vietnam veteran. So, you know, they have standard. We were just relaying the message.

No, granted, it's just two people. But, you know, but they kind of wind up with, you know, like, you can't send anything. Only one Amazon package got through. I'm like, wait, Amazon can send a package to the link of that. That's pretty badass. That by self is pretty amazing. You know, you try spending 200 days on a tin can. And my reply was, first of all, anyone who signs up for armed services in my book right away is already a hero, is more courageous than most people I know should be revered.

And they know what they're signing up for. Right. They know what this. And I love them for that. And I understand that you as a parent, as a husband, as a wife, as a child. child, you're concerned, you're upset. I get it. My whole family is military, at minimum, intelligence at best. And I'm the black sheep. But I got this great note from boots on the ground. Our boots on the ground, anonymous. On the ship? Are they on the ship?

With regards to the sailors, Iran and hygiene, I was deployed supporting Epic Fury as well. but I was on the dry land portion of it as a soldier under NavSent, that's Naval Central Command. The best way to describe the living situation and the complaints is that while it isn't great, so this person was on the Lincoln, it most certainly could be worse. A phrase to keep in mind is that it's the God-given right of every soldier to bitch,

closely followed by, if they aren't complaining, something's wrong. Give a soldier a solid brick of gold, they'll complain it's too heavy. As far as moldy showers go, they may have screwed up and not ordered enough cleaning supplies, and they can't exactly make a run to go by some more. But responsibility for keeping those facilities clean belongs to those same sailors complaining. Sending out a picture of moldy showers eight months into a deployment doesn't have the same implications

as service members deploying into moldy conditions. The problem can be traced back to those living in those conditions. He's kind of putting it on themselves. On the other hand, imagine the worst parts of ground, Day. And this is the part that got me because, yeah, I can, I can barely imagine how, how tough this gig is, this job. You wake up, you go do the same thing every day. You never know when it's going to end, but unlike Groundhog Day, if you screw up, you and your friends die. There's no weekend when you get off shift that's back to your room or bunk, maybe to sleep before doing it again. They may not

be in muddy trenches, but the mental wear and tear is real and hard to imagine if you haven't live through it. On a warmer note, it took me far too long to redeploy, but at least I had started moving and could break the monotony from shift work. Sitting at breakfast one morning with another soldier flying back with me, was shooting the breeze discussing the peace deal back in June, June, and the implications for the Iranian and American economies. I brought up using the lens of confessions of an economic hitman to view the deal from and without a missing beat. He looks at me and goes, man, there's this podcast I think you'll really like that deals with media deconstruction. He proceeds to tell me about no agenda.

Nothing could have brought me more joy than dropping some nightly credentials in response. Listeners really are everywhere and hiding in plain sight. Keep up the great work. It goes an incredibly long way. And so, yes, it is a war. And I mean, it's hard. I know it's hard for people. Look, I'm old.

I'll be 62 in. crap. Like less than two weeks. Wow. Thanks, Rob. Wow. Wow. And I still maintain, I'm Gen X. I was the face of Gen. I think you are. Yeah. You're on the cusp. You're one of those cuspers. They call it the, I think the Johnson generation or something, which doesn't sound good to me at all. Anyway. But this Iran has been a problem. Iran has been a problem for the Iranians.

look at how that country changed. And by the way, 1946, 1979, we screwed it all up. We did it. We did it. And then we believe,

you know, in 79, we're like, oh, no, things are going to be fine. And then it wasn't fine. So this is something

that had to be fixed eventually. And here's a president that's just going to do it. And it will be better for the world. It will be. It's going to take some, it's not going to be easy. That's the thing.

None of this stuff is easy. none of this stuff. It never is. Getting ships out there to the Persian Gulf and multiple ships and changing them out. All these are giant complicated undertakings. And yeah, it should not be taken lightly. I was looking at these videos going, it's moldy showers and clogged toilets. It's not, is it really that bad?

Maybe it is. I bet the stench is probably pretty bad. Well, your comparison to a burning man hit a lot of people. Well, you know. A lot of people like that a lot. I still have, and that was sort of an offhanded comment, but that's, you know, you're, you're living on these porta, you have portopotties there. And if they're not, you know, sucked out every day, it gets pretty bad. And they missed a day. And it was like, I'm not, you know, you're looking at each one going, oh my God. And each one, you're like, okay, that's even worse. Oh my, okay. All right, I guess I'm not going to eat today. So with the eating, you know, we get to the, you know, we get to the.

the affordability crisis, which no one denies. Oh, the beef, yeah. Where's the beef? Before we get to the beef, I really tried to understand this, what we did with the long-term bonds and the T-bills, the short-term bonds, just to understand what this is, that what is happening or really what happened for a moment and didn't happen. And this is the idea here by Besson, because this is the guy, Besson is doing it, is to lower interest rates without the Federal Reserve lowering interest rates.

And the way you do that is to make the, but he basically bought up, Treasury bought up a lot of the 30-year bonds, which are the loans, you know, 30-year loans. That's how we print money in America as we write a bond and then, you know, you buy it from us and we take that money and spend it on, you know, stuff, like military. And the way you pay for it is by writing short-term bonds, which are typically three months, the T-bills they call them, which are seen as cash in the market. You can spend it as cash.

And for a moment there at work, because the long-term yield, as they call it, basically the interest that you get paid back on those long-term bonds went down. And everything is priced upon that, including your mortgage. mortgage and your car loan and all of this stuff. So the idea was good, but it only lasted for maybe a session and a half and it started to go up again, which means they'll probably have to do it again. And it looks like he will do it and he will do it at an even greater rate. And here is, here's the general himself. So talk us through what you were trying to do here by announcing the increased size of the buybacks. Yeah. We're trying to signal that we think that, we think that. This is a thinly traded area of the market that we're in August, and there's been a lot of

corporate issuance that's influenced the market. And we believe that there are many underlying factors that the market is not looking at. So what he's saying here is that a lot of money has been raised in corporate bonds, which is all of this AI money. The money your kids should be going out and taking from these nut jobs on Walls. street. That's what he's saying. Because of that, there's the market's distorted. And we are going to make a market in these. We routinely do buybacks and we're going to increase the size of the buyback. And you know, Sarah, I would note that it could be more than the $4 billion per issue.

More. Yeah, I was going to ask how big this could get. If the signal here is that you're not happy with the direction of yields. You know, they've gone back the other way. We've erased most of the treasury rally that you got yesterday with that big surprise. So how much more are you willing to do? Well, again, we have a big toolkit. So we'll see. And part of it is signaling here.

And to show that we believe that the yields don't reflect the underlying fundamentals. Now, not in this interview, but the way the underlying fundamentals are seen is because of the the tariff money that went back to corporations, which, by the way, it's not going back to you. No. I just want you to know. It's not going back to you. The corporations, they didn't even have to pay. They got discounts.

They negotiated all kinds of different rates with the suppliers. And they get a refund. And they got it. Which is your court's doing that. Okay. So that has distorted the market. That's distorted the liquidity, the amount of money the Treasury has. But the funny thing is that this is not a new thing.

It was called the twist, the treasury twist, and it's been done before. The dependence on foreign bondholders, for instance, we saw the intervention in the Japanese yen. And that's erased a lot of the progress there. And so there are kind of all these worries at once about what's going to happen ultimately with these holders of treasures. Again, people have bad information. I have asymmetric information. Woo! Oh, asymmetric.

So, you know, I think that... He's got something... He's got a very big toolkit, ladies and gentlemen. The market should think, well, why would we have joined the Japanese in the intervention at this time? Uh-huh. Why? Do we know something the market doesn't know? That in terms of being willing to do, you know, what I would call a treasury twist here, in terms of the bond market, what do I know that the market doesn't know? So, you know, I think the market's probably gotten a little ahead of itself.

I love this. I've got a secret, boys and girls. What do I know with my asymmetric, do you say asymmetric? Yes, asymmetric information that you don't know. Stand by. Why did we help Japan? I don't know if you heard this.

I heard an end-to-show mix. Come on, baby. Let's do the treasury twist. Yes, I heard. Yes, I heard chubby checker. I also heard the peppermint twist, the treasury twist. Dude, the pepper. How did that go?

The peppermint twist. I don't remember that one. Yeah, but that's because I'm a boomer. Hold on a second. Let me see. Peppermint. Peppermint twist. Okay.

That was a classic. See, I grew up with all that. Joey D. And the Starlighters. There you go. Joey D. Joey D. and the Starlighters.

Let me see if I could find this. Oh, yeah, baby. 1961. Three years before this boomer came to Earth. Well, we've got a new dance and it go like this. Ooh, yeah, the peppermint twist. Okay. All right, into show, mixers.

Get to it. That's right. You got two choices. You got two choices to take it. Chubby Checker, or Joey D. Exactly. Now, here's the crazy thing. This is, again, I said it's not new.

Listen to this. Activist, treasury, issuance. That term was coined in 2024 by Rubini and Stephen Myron when Yellen did this. Yellen. And at the time, they wrote and warned that her move, they're now doubling what she began, that her move was equivalent to lowering rates by a full point. Myron, of course, would go on to become Trump's key advisor and then on the Fed himself. So I think, according to them, these moves do have a big economic,

impact. Yeah, they do. So Yellen did this. She was criticized for it, not just by Trump's financial advisors, but by this guy. It has been the policy of the government and successive treasuries. Now, Yellen did some of this too, to not do that, to not be opportunistic. You go in and you buy bonds and you know the government is not going to game your purchase, for example, on the day of a 20 year auction. But she started with this twist towards bill issuance. And it's just continued. Right. And by the way, who criticized it? Scott Bessens criticized it. Who criticized it? Kevin Worse criticized it. And now they're doing the same thing, but, but in much bigger proportions right now. It might work because we're going to do it bigger. That's what Besson said. So the victim of this, and the reason they do this, and I think he will do a lot more, uh, for a couple of reasons.

One is to drive down the interest rates. And I think that will work, but the victim of it is the dollar. It's basically debasement of the dollar. So while your interest rate may go down, your actual purchasing power also goes down. Now, it takes some time for that to shake out in the market. But that's, you know, no one ever talks about that, oh, my mortgage went down. And, you know, the sad thing is that your purchasing power also goes down, which is exactly why you saw Bitcoin skyrocket and hold. I can't see it right now, but it's still whole. I can't see it right now, but it's still. still around 77,000. But here's the thing. The play here by Bessent and by President Trump is to grow our way out of it. The $40 trillion mark that we passed for the national debt,

would you comment on that and how do we reverse that? Yeah, look, the 40 trillion is a big number. It is smaller when we look at a publicly traded amount because our Social Security funds and other government entities hold a substantial amount. And what we're going to do? We're going to have to grow our way out of this. And as I talked about at G20 in Asheville, we are going to talk about the U.S. growth strategy and encourage the rest of the world to come along with us.

We are also, I announced that Director Russ Vote and I have been tasked with looking at fiscal consolidation. I think the numbers are not the actual. numbers now. We've had to do substantial tariff refunds due to the court ruling. But with the Section 301 tariffs, I am confident that we will be back to the

same level, if not higher, of tariff income for last year. And that is most of the increase in the deficit. And remember, we did not get here in a date that we were left with a mess. The Biden administration had the highest deficit to GDP in

history when we weren't at war, or weren't in a recession. For 2025, we brought it down by more than a percent. General Besson, no one cares about the previous guy. No, they don't. Nobody cares. You know, I was just looking at the last five years of mortgage rates. You know, 2021, 3%.

You go to 2022 October, 7%. That's huge. Boom. And then it got even higher in 2023, October, 7.89%. Almost 8%. No one was complaining. No, they weren't complaining like they are now, and it's at 6.76. It seemed, it was trending down, which is interesting.

It was trending down until February of 20, right before we went into Iran, it was 6.17. Now it's up to 6.76. So it's trending up, and I think they're trying to do what they can to keep going up even more. Now, the problem is that people just aren't making enough money. That's the problem, and that is always because of money printing, debate. This is you could call this quantitative easing, but it isn't exactly the same. But this brings the, the Mar-a-Lago Accords, as I've called them for close to two years now, brings this into play. This is where the stable coin gambit comes into play.

So the reason the yields on the 30-year treasury bonds are high is because people don't want American debt. Why don't they want a lot of debt? Because it's $40 trillion already. like, these guys are going to pay back? It seems unlikely. So we need to create a way to have people take our debt. And this is why General Patent Bessent is swapping out the long-term bonds for these 90-day short-term bonds known as T-bills, because this is what Stablecoin is backed by.

And there's 300 million people around the world in economies where, where they have their own money and it's sucking, and they just want dollars. And this is how it's not forever. It may be for my grandchild. I don't know about my great grandchild, but this is the gambit they're going to do now. Here's an explainer of stable coin once again.

Let's talk about stable coins because this is a type of digital or cryptocurrency whose value is pegged to an asset. Most often it's pegged to the U.S. dollar. Now, so unlike Bitcoin, for example, or Ethereum, whose prices can swing wildly stable coins are backed by reserves such as cash or U.S. short-term treasuries or T-bills to keep their value fixed. The market for stable coins has exploded as of 2025, like you just said. Some estimates put that at $300 billion. City, for example, predicts that a figure could top $1.5 trillion by 2030 or $3.5 trillion in a budget. bull case scenario.

So, wow. This is a, this is the only, it's the way they chose is not the only way. Of course, it would be great if we, you know,

if we just went into a severe depression and we reset everything. That's not going to happen. Nobody wants it. You know, it's just. You think it's hard now for groceries. Wait till depression happens. Exactly.

You don't have a job. Dominate the space. The largest by far is tether. A private company. known for its coin USDT. Circle, which went public in junior would call, issues a stable coin known as USDC. Together, they control more than 80% of the global stable coin market. The majority of the money that's backing those coins are parked in U.S. Treasury bills. And that is a big reason why the U.S. government is encouraging the use of stable coins and passed landmark legislation over the

summer, creating guardrails for the industry itself. Issuers have become major. buyers of short-term government debt, effectively creating new demand for treasuries and extending the reach of the U.S. dollar worldwide. So this is the, they call it the Euro dollar, but this is the dollar that all these other countries are going to use. They already are using it. Venezuela was using it. The Iranians are using it. Now, what happens in America is people will always run as fast as they can to hard assets, gold and silver. And honestly, I don't know if gold coins and silver coins is really the way to go. I mean, the price is how that works.

It's such kind of scam. I mean, the fact that Ben Shapiro is selling gold coins, it's got to tell you something. They can't be a great deal. You want to look at, if you're going to do that, don't go for anything. Oh, this is historic. You're going to pay, you know, $8,000 an ounce instead of for whatever the price of Yeah. Gold is.

Yeah. That whole thing is very sketchy. The reason why Bitcoin is going is because it is, by definition, a hard asset. And the money people know it. Look at who's holding Bitcoin. The same companies. And they're getting more. They keep buying more and more and more.

And, you know, I'm not giving anybody financial. advice, but I'm planning on it because it's just so easy to sell, to buy, so much easier than gold. It's easy to lose, too. You lose that hash. You're done. Well, so we do have, and I'm not a fan of that, but we do have these ETFs. And, you know, that is essentially buying exposure to Bitcoin. That's probably a relatively safe way to do it. And you can do it now through your, through your bank, through your brokerage account if you have one. You're 401k. I mean, you can, you know, you can go online and sign up and you can put money into it.

I think that's probably a pretty safe way. Because this, our money, our treasury, our debt is being tokenized as the first real thing to be tokenized across the world. I'm not saying that I'm a fan of it, but it's a fact. This is what is happening. What is tokenized treasury debt? Government debt is one of the oldest and largest financial. markets in the world. Treasury bonds are normally traded through banks, brokers, and clearing

houses, with settlement times measured in days. Tokenized treasury debt takes those same bonds and represents them as tokens on a blockchain. The underlying asset does not change. What changes is how it is stored, transferred, and traded. Tokenization means creating a digital token that represents ownership of a real-world asset. In this case, the asset is a government bond or Treasury bill. Each token corresponds to a claim on the underlying security. The token lives on a blockchain, which is a shared ledger that records who owns what without requiring a central clearinghouse. This does not mean the bond itself disappears. The bond still exists in the traditional financial system. The token is a wrapper that makes it easier to move, divide, and trade. A $1 million treasury

bill could be tokenized into a thousand tokens worth $1,000 each, allowing smaller investors to Participate. No, investors. Okay. And that's what this whole clarity act is about is the guys doing the stable coin. They want to, which, and a stable coin being backed by a treasury, as far as I'm concerned, is as good as a U.S. dollar. The banks hate this because the banks and the way the banks are going about it is saying, well, what if you run out of money? Because, of course, the stable coin, unless they're illegally making stable coins that aren't

backed by treasuries, yeah, then that's a problem. But that's pretty highly regulated. That was set out in the Genius Act. So the Clarity Act is what the banks want to prohibit the stable coin companies from giving out incentives, interest, benefits, points, you know, all of this stuff, because that's what banks think they're supposed to do. But banks inherently are run on fake money, completely fictional nonsense money. So I'm definitely going to be for the idea of using stable coin than a bank.

Look at Silicon Valley Bank. I literally still have a Silicon Valley Bank debit card from when I had my company in San Francisco and we had VC funding from Kleiner Perkins and Sequoia and all those guys. And oh, you go, well, we're going to give you this money, but you're going to keep it in Silicon Valley Bank. Wow. I mean, we got a way clean on that one. Because banks do go bankrupt. But the problem is, is that these twists, these treasury twists, this buyback, it never

lasts forever. It can last for a long time. It can work for a long time. Who knows, maybe we can grow ourselves out of it. I don't know. That'll all depend. You know, these 301 tariffs, which are very easy to implement, you know, the, the president It really has a number of ways you can put all those tariffs back on.

Here's the analogy of monetizing your debt, buying your own bonds. Treasury Department's attempt to lower yields, not quite achieving its goal this week, yields back to where they were before the intervention was announced. And actually, they're higher than they were a week ago. At what point could rates start to become a threat to the equity rally? Joining us now is Bernstein Private Wealth Management, Senior Investment Strategist, Roosevelt Bowman. Good to see you.

Welcome. Thank you for having you, Mike. Let's just start right there. I mean, you know, we have yields higher, maybe not at absolute levels that are threatening in particular, but I guess the why kind of matters if it's just kind of this voracious demand for new debt. And I guess at some point what it might mean for somebody with an equity portfolio. For sure. And I think the why kind of comes down to two factors.

Number one, you think about the inflationary pressures that are coming from the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and higher prices of oil. The other would be kind of what's the credibility? in terms of both monetary and fiscal policy. I think part of the reason you saw that retracement in yields is that many investors kind of view that buyback announcement as having a beach ball in the pool, putting your hand on it. As soon as you move your hand, it goes right back up. And I think that's really the challenge for the fiscal policy right now is that often when you're doing those sorts of measures, you're trying to buy time. And you're looking for other macro or monetary forces that were more powerful and durable to take over. unfortunately that buyback announcement didn't buy a whole lot of time and now you know the treasury is

kind of in a tough position they're going to have to do it again they're going to have to do more come up with something else and the clarity act which i don't know what's in it anymore because this has been so it's been bopping around so many times i think the stable coin guys will get some kind of capability to hand out points or something they're making a lot of money by way. I mean, you get three or four percent on a T bill, you know, that's 90 days. I mean, and you just make, and people are taking these stable coins off their hands. It's guaranteed. You get, I mean, they're making, these are the smallest companies with the largest revenue in history. They're making hundreds of millions of dollars a month just by holding these treasury

bills, which their customers are buying from them. But they're not really buying it. They're just getting to use it, they're the guys that hold them. So they're keeping the interest. Yeah, of course. So they'll give you some points. Yeah. You know, some frequent flyer miles or something. And everybody can make a stable coin. Amazon will have a stable coin. Google will have a stable coin. And I'm sure they'll be giving you all. Elon will have a stable coin. He already has his ex money. Just wait for it. And this Clarity Act is what it all hinges on. The most important priority is for Congress to send the Clarity Act to, your desk for your signature.

That was President Trump, meeting with tech and crypto leaders at the White House. The president and chair of the SEC are calling for Congress to pass the Clarity Act. That would decide which government agency regulates digital tokens rather than allowing crypto companies to operate in a legal gray area. Let's bring in the co-founder

and CEO of Coinbase, Brian Armstrong. He was at that meeting yesterday. Really appreciate you joining us, Brian. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. Okay, so let's get really, really concrete here. We spent years saying the biggest problem in American crypto is a lack of regulatory clarity. So if the Clarity Act passes the Senate in September, which it's up for a vote then, ultimately

becomes law, what changes for an ordinary Coinbase customer that actually makes them safer? Yeah. So this bill, the Clarity Act, it's coming up for this vote on September 15th, the full Senate floor vote. It has a number of consumer protections that would make sure something like FTC could never happen again. It has strong tools for law enforcement to go. after elicit activity. It also has the opportunity to create new products in crypto that would benefit Americans,

including earning rewards on their stable coin balances, the ability to go raise capital in crypto, capital formation, or issuing securities. That's something that could be much more efficient, have lower fees. And I think Bitcoin is telling us this is going to pass. And I think it's telling us

it's going to pass in September. Because if this passes, stable coin Bonanza is on, the whole world gets flooded with our dollars, which they'll love using because it's going to, this whole system is going to screw the euro, it's going to screw everything. We become the ultimate reserve currency, but everybody can participate in that through your stable coin. And hard assets like Bitcoin, gold, silver will increase, I think a lot.

I have invested interest in it increasing a lot. And yeah, the downside is, is that if you're using stable coin, unlike cash, it can be turned off, you know, it is in effect a digital dollar that will, that has control. Not like your credit card is any different. Or your bank account even. People have lost bank accounts. People have lost. And that didn't do anything illegal, essentially. They were just labeled.

They got a labeling. Or your PayPal. Yeah. And that happened to Alex, happened to Nick Fuentes. It's happened to a number of people who, you know, when the government wants to go after you, they're going to find a way to come after you. And that is the Genius Act. I think the banks got pissed off about that because it was sort of a wild west. And they're looking at, hey, we got to come back and, you know, we're still the banks. We still get to run the financial system. We don't want this going off to a bunch of, you know, crazy kids. And there will be, I mean, this is anti-banking. this whole stable coin idea, which I think is good so there will be no more bank bailouts. You know, the world is participating in the bailout of the United States

by buying our debt whenever we need to buy, you know, a couple more manufacturers or more missiles for Ukraine or anyone else who wants to buy him. And we'll keep the oil flowing. That's sort of the tradeoff. And we'll keep the oil flowing and we'll keep the security over the oil. That's what it is.

may not be a utopia, but I think it'll be better than where we might have been or where we could be headed. And it doesn't matter if it's a Republican Congress or a Democrat Congress. This is irrelevant to that.

It's irrelevant and outside of it. If they can get it done in two and a half more years. Yeah, it's, you know, with all these things, you know, people look back, my son was asking me about Bitcoin the other day. He said, why didn't you buy Bitcoin? I'm like,

well, we laughed at it. Bitcoin when we first heard about it. And I remember Max Kaiser coming. Me too, brother. It was like, you got to get Bitcoin. You got to get your Bitcoin. It was like $5. And I had, I have friends who had lots of Bitcoin and used it to buy pizzas who are probably kicking themselves to this day. And you don't know which is going to be the winner and which is going to be the loser. But now with some of these things, now you can kind of tell because the government is going to kind of pick winners and losers. And that's what it normally does. And in these big things like this. There's always going to be some group that's going to

benefit from it, especially with the Genius Act. That seemed to be going towards, you know, the wild west of stable coin and creating it. And the banks like, wait a minute, wait a minute. We got to put a cabosh on some of this stuff and make sure that we're making our money because we still, they're trying to just say we're still important essentially. And I, you know, Scott Besson, who knows what he's thinking at this point. He might be thinking, you know, I came into the financial sector. Now I'm going to change it in a way that is it can't be, it can't easily be destroyed like it was, you know, 2008.

We have no choice. We have no choice. This and a lot of this, okay, blame it on Trump, fine. This is, this is COVID, the COVID trillions of dollars. This is all the money that was printed to get us out of the horror. You know, there was a lot of problems with the, with the overnight. bank exchange, can't come up with the number, with the name of it now. During COVID, right before COVID, actually, we had the collateralized debt crisis of 2007, 2008.

I mean, this is all the banks. The banks have been doing this for a year. And of course, it goes back to 1971. We went off the gold standard, which you can say was the worst thing ever. On the other hand, you know, it made America very, very prosperous in a very short amount of time. And then everybody got greedy and offshored everything to China and to other countries. And, you know, I think with the steel tariffs and American steel coming back, the Hamiltonian system, the American system, with tariffs and the tariffs are coming right back, the 301 tariffs. You literally decide this, I think I have a, I had a tariff thing.

I have a chair of thing. Let me see. Well, and you know, what it needs, what this type of stuff does is it, it forces the Americans now to become back and participate. Because there's a lot of people who aren't working anymore that just decided, hey, I'm not going to work. I'm going to sponge off the government in one way or another. And now it's like, hey, here's the incentive. You know, become an electrician, become a plumber, become a welder, you know, all these jobs that are blue-collar jobs. But I've seen reports.

So there was a report on X. They were, some parents were kind of embarrassed that their kid became an electrician. And in three years, he was making $200,000. Exactly. You know, so it's like,

now they're not embarrassed. Now they're like, oh, he's an electrician and he owns several companies and he makes over a million dollars a year. And remember, kids, that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin. That's right.

One Bitcoin. Just one. Just one. What else you got here, Rob, what else did you bring for? Well, there's the whole beef situation that happened on Friday with Trump saying, we're going to buy a bunch of beef. And then I think he said beef product or somewhere along the way.

And someone goes, what is beef product? I think it's, I believe it's ground beef. It's going to be ground beef from Argentina, where most of it will come from. He didn't announce that in the beginning. But this seems like the second big buy of beef that. it's going to Argentina's way. So there is something going on between us and Argentina, probably because he likes their president,

the chainsaw guy. Well, didn't we just do a big debt swap with a money swap with Argentina? Right. Yeah, a few months ago. Yeah. And we've been talking about this for a while. And already you've heard from Texas Slim.

Our beef comes from Argentina. They take our good beans and send it across. you know, cleaners. Hey, Rob, you're, you got to stop the, someone in your house is on only fans. Uh-oh. All right.

Let's see. Let me, let me. It's fixed. It's working again. This is your- I'm killing windows as we speak. There you go.

I had a couple. I had five tabs open. Stop with the Mac. Um, okay. This is your boots on the ground cattle rancher. Well, let's, let's go with Trump on Argentina beef and then we'll do the boots on the ground cattle rancher.

Okay. Here we go. Question is, What do you have to say to U.S. farmers who feel that the deal is benefiting Argentina more than it is them as they are. Argentina is fighting for its life, young lady. You don't know anything about it. They're fighting for their life. Nothing is benefiting Argentina.

They're fighting for their life. You understand what that means? They have no money. They have no anything. They're fighting so hard to survive. If I can help them survive in a free world, I happen to like the president of Argentina. I think he's trying to do the best he can. but don't make it sound like they're doing great.

They are dying. All right? They're dying. What do you mean by me? Wow, I hadn't heard that clip. Yeah, that was on the plane. It was cleaned up very nicely too because I've heard other clips. And I didn't do any cleanup on it.

I heard that. And I'm like, somebody did some processing on this before posting it. It's a good job. Good work. There's lots of, so now we go to the cattle rancher, which starts off with a great, I didn't keep all the Nat pop in there, but he's got a, you're in a field. And he's in front of cattle. I'm probably like 30 head of cattle.

And he's talking about it from his perspective about this deal. Well, let's talk about it real quick. Right out of the gate this morning, we've got an announcement from the administration about, you know, cattle, beef prices. They're going to import a bunch more box beef, ground beef, scrap cuts, what I call them, and hopefully bring down the price of

ground beef in the store for y'all. We've seen a market crash for live cattle, live cattle that people like myself grow and take to the, you know, processing plants or go down through the system. That's dropped. Forty cents a pound already just from that plant closure. Now this morning, the markets are crashing, but will your price change? So, far we have not seen that. We have not seen that. And at what expense to you? I'll tell you what expense to you. This is the opposite of what needs to happen. We're not going to retain heifers and build a herd when we can have, you know, the stroke of a pen drop our price to where we don't make a profit anymore. And honestly, that's where we stand. We finally begun to make a profit. And

all hell breaks loose, people can't handle it, you know, I guess, because beef is high in the store. I get it, beef is high in the store. Look at what else is high in the store. Look at what's high for the rancher and the producer. Fuel, land, labor, all of it. You know, you got a $9 latte, but $7, $8, $9 a pound for ground beef is too much, right? Now you're going to be. Now you're going to get stuck with shitty ground beef. Trust me. And we won't rebuild the herd and you're going to lose more ranchers

and in the long run you're going to lose everything. Because where there are cattle, there's freedom. And when these disappear, so does your freedom. Freedom. I don't think this is going to work out like they hope. Okay. I have

a couple thoughts about this. What do you have? Well, I think probably in the short term, it's going to drop prices a little bit. But I think he's right overall. We're having that Tyson is the Tyson plant that closed. There's a monopoly on the processing, which is where most of the high prices come from. Three companies, none of them Americans. Exactly.

That's the problem right there. You want a clarity act for beef wouldn't be bad. Hey, we're going to have, you know, it's U.S. We're going to create U.S. beef and, you know, are funded or, or something to get a U.S. company in there or kick out the other companies. And then you get all these local and allow people to locally produce it. Yes. And render beef.

But I think he's right. In the short term, it's going to drop prices. And will it de-incentivize people to become cattle ranchers? That I don't know. Well, there's a couple things. And, of course, I've spoken with Texas Slim for five years about this. He was here not too. He was pretty ill.

We were getting him some medical help. And he came through here. He stayed overnight. And I got to tell you, he was definitely not doing well. He's coming back strong now. Thank God. Yeah. And, you know, what had, what's really happened, the ranchers have a hand in this too.

Maybe not this rancher. And there's many ranchers all around the country who are regent, who are going back to their roots, regenerative and have processing. You can do processing. You can do processing, but you can't sell it in a store. You can sell it from your process. So you have hometown meats formerly known as K&C cattle in Luling. Yep. That's what I've gotten from there several times.

And Cole does all of his, you know, he's his own geneticist. You know, he knows what he's breeding. He's got fantastic cows. And they process, they got. And that's another skill, I might add, that we need, we need people who can cut. This is a very, you know, if you can, if you can learn. how to cut beef, you've got a long future ahead of you. So that's another thing.

Beef, pork, sheep, chicken, you know, any of that. Just cutters are very, very hard to come by because, you know, people aren't interested in those jobs, but they're well paid now. So he's feeding his community. And that community includes you and Driffwood, includes me and Fredericksburg. And, you know, we've had one of their, their military vets who'll come out and we'll pool all of our neighbors together. You know, they just bring us cash.

And then they bring the boxes in one go. Because, you know, the shipping is where everybody gets killed and where it gets very expensive. And they bring it from their own processing plant. It's local. You got the same with the guys down there in Georgia. These actually has an entire town that is a part of this. So that system works.

But a lot of these cattlemen have really just become commodity cowboys. And they just know, I've got to put $1,200 worth of Cheerios in this animal. And like this guy was saying, I take it off, live animals, and I take it off and send it to the processing plant who control the price. And the Justice Department is now going after price fixing between these big processing plant. So there is work being done. And there was absolutely price fixing. The price of cattle was incredibly high. That's why these guys have been making out.

They've been selling cows that were really too young to even sell because they just want to make money. A lot of the younger generation is not interested in farming or ranching. They're not interested in it. It's too much work. So we're going to have to come up with some incentives for people to do it. Here's the biggest part. the education about beef, ground beef in particular, is so poor. I mean, if a single mom with two kids can go so much further with her money on ground beef,

making good nutritious food and meals for her kids, than anything else in the supermarket, all of this colored nonsense, sugary crap, which is actually killing her kids, that education part, and, you know, it's not like the supermarkets are going to help you.

That is the big missing piece, which I'd kind of hope Maha and RFK Jr. would do a lot better at. I don't see it. Because, I mean, you can make meatloaf. You can make hamburgers. You can make meatballs. I mean, there's so much that you can do

with just ground beef. Makes it with a little pasta. There's... Yeah. This, unfortunately, this is an affordability, midterm move that is being done here. I agree with the cowboy. This is going to be much less quality beef than American beef, certainly Texas beef.

But it's just an education problem. People just don't really know what's going on. But if you go to beef.com, I think Slim got beef.com. Hold on. Let me check. I don't know how this guy's amazing. Well, and I've used to be K&C. and I think you still type in K&C and it takes you to their website.

But there's also, I met a guy who I was buying beef from him off of, because you, at the farmer's market. His name's Ray, and he sends me Bible verses every morning. Oh, nice.

Which is great, great guy. 6.30 a.m. boom, new Bible verse every day. He's like, you want to put you on the list? I'm like, yes, put me on the list. I got a couple of those guys too.

Yeah. I love those guys. It's great. You know, you get a little bit, you get something to think about every morning before you get up and and run around. But they have, There's a wagoot herd out in Bastrop, and man, these are some of the best steaks I've ever had.

It was like 40 bucks a steak, you know, for a wagoo, which you're not going to get anywhere else like that. And you get to cook it the way you want. So go to beefmaps.com. I think the beef.com deal fell through. Go to beefmaps.com. Find your rancher. Taste the difference. Go there yourself.

Drive. Drive to your rancher. Say, howdy. Show me. And look at the cow. You're going to eat. That was so cool. I took Tina to K&C cattle.

And we went with Cole in the truck out of the pasture and he like honks his horn. And the cow's like, all come running over because they think they're getting fed. And Tina's like, how they're so cute that? Oh, I'm going to eat him. Yes, you're going to eat him or her. It's going to be good. It's going to be good.

You're going to love it. Support these guys. Your price will be good. And these guys will, we got Steiner. I think it's Steiner. ranch, which is here and, uh, yeah, I know the Steiner's. Oh, you do? Shotguns with Shane Steiner. So they have a ranch down on, uh, I want to say, is it 16, Route 16? And you go online and we order, um, our ground beef from them. We love

their ground beef. And they're really, they're much more local than, uh, than Cole. Uh, and our, um, uh, our brisket from them. And we got a hump the other, have you ever had hump? Oh, no. That's the hump on the back, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the hump on the back. Yeah. Yeah, it's the hump. It's just a roast. Yeah, we ordered a hump. And the guy comes up the same day with his Yeti cooler. Hey, hey, Mr. Mrs. Curry, I'll put it in the freezer for it.

He'll take cash. He'll take a check. Wow. It's amazing. I love it. The first time I got it delivered, the guy shows up, and I'm getting my order. And he goes, hey, I got some more in the back if you want to check it out. Yeah, let's check it out.

You know, it's like, you want more New York strip? He'll give you a deal on this. He's like, you got cash? I got cash. I think I bought that. I bought chorizo. I bought another $100 worth of stuff. I'm like, sure, let's go.

I mean, it lasts forever. We buy a couple hundred dollars worth of steaks and I think $100 worth of ground beef for the whole month or maybe five weeks. And we have people over for dinner. We basically eat beef or almost carnival. I have a potato. Tina might have, we might have a salad, you know, but that's, we basically eat beef every single day. And I'm feeling good.

We're healthy. We're still tall. We have friends over. And if you go to the grocery store, if you go to H.E.B, you can't get away for under $100 for anything. It's ridiculous. We bought one of those big roast, a Costco roast that you then slice your own steaks out of. Man, and that's the way to go, too. If you're going to, if you're a steak eater, go buy one of these big roast.

get them from a local guy if you can, but even Costco, I think we paid $200 for it and I got, I don't know, 18 stakes out of it. Yeah. That makes that math, maths. The affordability crisis is also part of just what we're doing. The Cowboys right. $9 latte. Well, yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go. It depends on what you want to spend your money on. Here's the Agriculture Secretary of Rollins. This morning, President Trump announced a new plan to import 300,000. tons of ground beef into the U.S. with lower tariffs. It's a decision that he and Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins says will help lower prices. But the Iowa Cattlemen's Association says it's going to

hurt more than it will help. KCCI's Abigail Curtin spoke with both of them to learn what's at stake for purchasers and producers. Ground beef. It's a protein staple in millions of American households. But since January 2025, the price has jumped 24%. President Trump is hoping to change this. Friday morning, he announced he'd allow 300,000 metric tons of ground beef to be imported with lower tariffs over the next 90 days. In a visit to the Iowa State Fair, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins says this will take some of the burden off of consumers' wallets. We can get a 25% decrease for families, usually lower-income families, rely on. on ground beef, then he wanted to make that move for the American consumer.

Yes, exactly. By the way, thank you, troll room. Yes, I know Pastor Jimmy says no potato. We had dinner to Pastor Jim Inanette's house last night. And he made some awesome steaks. And then Annette made, gosh, she made potato for me and had a croissant, like gingerbread cookies. So why does he say no, potato? That's interesting.

He's carnivore. He's a carnivore. Oh, okay. He just has no potato in general. No carbs, no carbs. Hey, we talk about this on. We get to do this. The hit new podcast from Adam Curry and Pastor Jimmy, WGTDT.com. Go check it out, everybody.

If you want your Jesus, if you want to get your Jesus on with us, check it out. You ever listen to the show? I have not listened to that one. I will give it a listen to it. There will be a test. Are you going on? Are you going to come on again soon, brother? I love it when you're on the show.

I think this next week, I'm going to be. I'll be in New Orleans and Lafayette playing with my band. I got back into playing music because now my kids are old enough to not need me around at all. Wait a minute. What about Alex? Doesn't Alex need you around? Oh, he needs me around. But it's a weekend.

It's a weekend thing. But the kids are like, yeah, you know, you don't need the kids. The kids are like, yeah, we're fine. We're good. Just fix this when we break something. What's the name of the band? Are you on Spotify? You know, we don't have anything on Spotify yet.

Good. We've been to, we have a lot of live recording. out. The name of the band is Ross Mundy, R-A-S-M-U-N-D-I. And we're like a reggae hip-hop funk band. But what I say, hip-hop, it's like old-school hip-hop. But it's conscious.

You know, we're pro-humanity. And, you know, pro-humanity. Yeah. What kind of band is this? I know. We're not pro-system, that's for sure. But, you know, we got a South by gig this last year. We got into the reggae festival, which by voting in. And it would just

Good things keep happening to us. And I wouldn't... I wouldn't say it's, in terms of talent level, it's not the highest talent level, but everybody gives it their go. And we really do put on a good show. And we'll play for two or three hours and just... Holy crap. Get people moving.

And that's where it's at. Do you have merch? Do you have merch? You know, we haven't even gotten into merch yet. We're literally... We barely even have our album recorded. Are you paying the venue to play? No, they're paying us.

Yeah, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. But we're going to be in New Orleans for a couple days, playing some, it's like a South by Southwest for New Orleans. Oh, wow. That type of event. And then we're coming back and going to hit, we're in the midst of it.

There's a rave going to go on in Lafayette. And we're going to be in the middle. We're sandwiched in between all the DJs. So where are you playing? On Thursday, you said? At Thursday, we're going to be at a hotel ballroom. I don't, you know what, I'll tweet it out so people can. can see it on on x but uh the place for playing in lafayette is is called the boom boom room the

freetown boom boom room rest and rest monday music dot com i believe is uh is the website that'll that'll get you to a lot of things like we're very you know we don't have it like no one's super concerned about we we do the online stuff we make the videos we put stuff out but we're mainly just word of mouth you know people show to our gigs because they've heard us before or, you know, it just happens. It's all happening because we have the intention to go out and play good music. So that's where it's at the boom boom room this Thursday? Is that where it's?

Saturday. Saturday the 29th. Yeah, the Freetown Boom, Boom, Room. And the other stuff, I'd have to dig through my phone. I have it on there. But we'll be in New Orleans Thursday and Friday and then Saturday in Lafayette, which is, that's the heart of Cajun country. Yeah.

If you're a Cajun person out there. I'll have to find a good replace. It's going to be hard replacement for Thursday. Sunday, I'm going to be in, we're going to Rotterdam. Oh, nice. To finally visit my granddaughter, who is now, she's now almost five weeks old. Next Sunday, or this coming Sunday,

Jason Calacanis will be guest hosting with me. Okay. Do you know J-Cal, Jason Calacanis? Well, I saw he, he was both. about the new cancer MRNA vaccine and how it's a great thing for humanity. It's an outstanding product. Yeah, he was definitely promoting that. I'm like, who is JCal?

Is it a name J-Cal or it's just Jason at Jason? At Jason. Yeah, I've known Jason since the 90s in New York was called Silicon Alley. John knew him very well. We used to make fun of him all the time. He got rid of that list, by the way. And now he does this podcast, which I think, I think it's, I'm sure it's on an RSS fee, but he does, it's a big YouTube deal with,

he's got all these Silicon Valley dudes on, including David Sacks, who was the crypto slash AI czar for President Trump for a couple months there. And it's very, I love watching it. But Jason Calacanis, he's a nice guy. He's, I'm pretty sure he has a knighthood for the show, but he's probably never claimed it. He's always supported the show. He's always been very encouraging. And I said, hey, man, you should come on the show. He says, well, I can't do Thursdays because that's when they record their own podcast. But he'd come on Sunday. So that should be fun. I have not spoken.

He's in Texas now, too. He's out by you. I think he's out in Driftwood area. On Driftwood area? Yeah. Okay. I think so. So I'll find somebody for Thursday. Well, I do love a good list. Yes, you would. I love me. I got a John C.J.D. story real quick. One of my favorite moments was I was doing this thing called the tyrannical Lisp, which was doing all these. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me, hold on, I'm going to say, a tyrannical, uh, hold on, tyrannical. I misspelled it. Tyrannical Lisp.

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But you've had a lot of these, man. This is amazing. I did a lot of them, yeah, because I was always... Tyranny will come to your door in a list. Here it is. We are entering the era of the megalopolis. No, it's not a dinosaur. Cities around the world are merging.

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Dennis from Duluth, Minnesota, 343.59. Different fees for you for some reason. Adam, first donation after about 10 years of listening. I found the show somewhere in the 800s and never gave a dime until now, which is long time to take something for free. I always meant to. That's what I've told myself for 10 years. The show is worth more to me than I've paid for it, so I'm starting to fix that today. Thank you. John was reliably the crankiest part of my week. I didn't appreciate it enough at the time. I only knew him through my earbuds and truck speakers, so I'm not going to pretend I know what this past month

has been like for you. Thank you for getting back behind the mic anyway. No jingles, no karma. Just appreciation and love. And I will deduished. You've been deduced. Anonymous in Edmonton, Alberta, 3338, and that converts to $479.88. Canadian. Keep anonymous, consider it done. We'll send a more thought-out email for the Dvorax and Adam later, wishing the Dvorax Curry and the community, my condolences, no jingles, no karma. Rest in peace, JCD. Elizabeth Johnson. Order of the ant 33333, making this order of the ant donation to honor John and asked for baby making karma for Sir Big Johnson and I. Well, the family is baby making karma and each other. Combined decades of listening, loving, laughing, and amygdala shrinking have brought us to this moment,

Dame Elizabeth of the Hudson Valley. Of course, happy to do that for you, Dame Elizabeth. You've got karma. Zadok Brown, the third. Order of the amp, 33333. A Commodore, now night, ITM, and thanks to all carrying the show forward. Please nightneeser, foam of the Dan bar. Gigawatt, dark roast coffee milkshake,

and Musubi for the round table. Musubi. I'm not sure what Musubi is. Where's John when you need him? Godspeed, JCD, sunshine from the islands to all in Gitmo Nation. Joshua Johnson. Joshua Johnson. I'm sound like Calicanus.

Joshua Johnson. 33333. I've been bummed out that I didn't take advantage of collecting my knighthood a few months ago, while John was still around as I have donated $50 a month since October of 24. But I'm very excited to become a member of the Order of the Ant and a knight at the same time. I would like to be known as Sir Double J and request street tacos and Bush Light at the round table and also request the mac and cheese and little girl shut up slave jingles. Thank you for your courage, Sir Double J. Okay, now I have to do a couple of things here.

I need to get the street tacos. I didn't put that order in street tacos and Bush Light. Let me do that first of all. Make sure I get that for you. Okay, street tacos. And then he wanted, what did you want here, my brother? You wanted mac and cheese. Yes, we got the mac and cheese, and you wanted the shut up slave.

I think we can do that for you. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Shut up, slave.

All right. Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, 333. ITM, thank you, and may all good deeds be done with humility towards others. Amen, brother, for a greater tomorrow. All the best, Sir Robertson of Two Sticks. Cyril Beatty, Reno, Nevada, 3333. Thanks for being there and making me feel sane. Agenda Shop from Gitmo Nation, Georgia, USA.

Thank you, No Agenda Shop, 33. Happy to hear the show carrying on John's legacy. Recently, Tina, shared our Sir Paul Couture Design sticker honoring JCD. It's striking and we're gifting it to anyone who places a shop order before September 30th. Oh, no, have end message due to PayPal text limit. Thank you for your courage. Yeah, I see what you did there, all kinds of shortcuts. It's a beautiful sticker.

I think there's two, actually. The No Agenda Shop sticker club is well worth it. Thank you very much. Order of the Ant for you guys. And that's our executive producers, now our associate executive producers coming in with $250. Manuka Gold from Hudson, Florida. They say, welcome back, Adam.

The show keeps us company while we're working on packages, and it's great to have you back. We're always happy to keep supporting. We do have a code at manukagold.com for the no agenda listeners looking for 20% off. Code Treasure. We'll work for the month of August, and we're still doing the $25 free gift for every purchase over $45. Thank you very much.

Manuka Gold. I stand behind their product. It's great. I also stand behind Eli the Coffee Guy's product, who comes to us with $208.23. He always does $200 plus the date, 823. He's in Bensonville, Illinois. Last Thursday show with Sir Ducifer was spectacular. Excellent media deconstruction, especially when viewed through the lens of the midterm elections.

It also made me smile that even the seed man's own people do humorous impressions of him, and he's good at it. Adam, thank you for keeping the show going as well as everybody who helps make no agenda happen. For producers who want amazing fresh roasted coffee, visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com. Use code ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Thank you for your courage. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. And he does say he would like to hear the I Got Ants. Well, let's do that for you.

I have no problem because it is a classic. After all, it is, today is Order of the Ant Day. I got ants. I got ants. I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion. I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine, fine,

grind black pepper. We were having dinner and yeah. I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it. These things are peppery. I got ants. I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot. And then you see, you find all the ones that are roaming around you.

I backed them off by doing the burning trick. You just torch them. And you leave him there. The only add, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants. I got ants. I got ants.

Ants. Ants. Before I continue... Oh, not that bad. There you go. I wanted to thank Sarah Kring. Sarah Nielsen, Sarah Kring Nielsen, she said a lot of stuff to the PO box.

And her note was in regards to my birthday note last Sunday. That was 18.09. This is old. This is old. But we know Sarah Kring. And she sent this, seems to have been under a rock this last year. I just got sent back this package at home from, she had to fill a form out to get it back, two QR codes, paid my duties,

be so much easier to send cash. It's a blanket, but it was, it's like a, I think, I don't know if she made this herself, it must be. It's like an ITM, no agenda on a loom, which is just a beautiful, Beautiful product. And then a blanket. She actually sent us a blanket, which, where did this come from this blanket?

This is Maison Emmanuel. Oh, it's a classy blanket blanket. Therapeutic life-sharing community for adults. So it's for a good cause in need of special care. Thank you very much. And she sent us Mail a Moose and just all kinds of beautiful stuff. Thank you. Thank you very much.

I was supposed to do that on the last show, but I forgot. And also, I want to thank Nicholas Fickland. He is the producer of S-Clazin hot sauce, S-C-L-A-Z-I-N-S-C-L-A-Z-I-N-S-S-S-A-N-H-S-S-E-N-H-R-SOS. And a very long note, he says, You've been on my heart since the Instagram post-notification of John's passing. As hard as the news hit me, someone who never had the pleasure of meeting him, I can only imagine how much more you all have been impacted by the loss of my prayers continuing to be with you. And so he is the producer of Sclaz-N-H-H-S-Soss,

and he made a special batch on 8-8 in his honor while having his own little memorial listening to old shows. He sent a package, which we received. Thank you very much, both to Texas, into the California PO boxes. And he hopes it's enough for everyone to enjoy. It's pretty hot, so it'll take us a while. But check out Slazan.com.

I don't know if he's got them on the website or not, but it's dynamite hot sauce. S-L-A-Z-I-N. And thank you very much. I cherish the special package, special label, labeled version that you sent us. Scott Kinney is in Lake Shore, Minnesota, $200, associate executive producer. And he says in the morning to you, Adam, I'd like to introduce you and the gang to Bot Commander. Bot Commander.

Bot Commander is the world's first person. Oh, I've seen this. Is the world's first personal AI assistant to adopt the value for value model? This is interesting. It's an extensive free AI home and business automation system. You can get it at botcom.com. Start automating now with bot commander. That's botcom.

com. Did I mention it's free? Yes, indeed you did. I like that he's doing this. It's value for value, so you don't have to pay for it until you find it valuable. I don't have a small business other than the show, but we have systems.

place. I think you should take a look at it. If you have a home or small business, it can automate a lot of things for you. Botcom.com.com. A.I. And with $200 from Castle Rock, Colorado, there she is, as always, Linda Lou Patkin. And she says she wants jobs, karma. AI can write your resume. Yes, we know that. The problem is it can write everyone else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a resume that gets results. Go to Imagemakersink.com, ImageMakers, Inc. with a K, and Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, a writer of winning resumes, because your resume should do more than just look good.

All the best from Linda. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And thank you to these executive and associate executive producers and order of the ant awardees. I need a jingle for that. If anybody can make me an order of the ant's jingle, I would love to have that

to give these people some special accolades. And of course, as always, these credits are good at IMDB.com or anywhere else, Hollywood credits are recognized. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Water. Order. Shut up, Slade.

Shut up, sleep. Continue you to thank people who sent us treasure for the show. $50 and above, we mention everybody. Sometimes we'll read your note, under $200. Ian Field 100. Keoa Winen, Springfield, Kentucky, $100. Says, God loves you, Adam, and so do we. John is sorely missed, and we can hear the hole in your heart.

But please, soldier on. The world needs your steady mind and godly heart. No jingles, no karma. Tim Tillman, Mechanicsville, Virginia. $100. Sir Kev McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, a lover of America and boobs. He is the Archduke and the lover of boobs,

and that's what he says, lover of America and boobs. Juraj Kodiac in Prague, Czechoslovakia, also coming in with the boobs donation, $80.8. Thank you both. Nicholas Leary, Columbus, Ohio, 7272, Matthew Elwart, Weatherford, Texas, with a small boobes, $60.606,

6,000, 6,000, Les Katarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, with the same. And Bob Cox, a new small boobber, coming in with, from Delphi, Indiana and left an email where Adam is mentioned on the Alex Jones show. Well, yes, thank you, played that. I got an invite. 55, 10, double nickels on the dime from Sir Michael, protector of the peas in Maple Grove, Minnesota, double nickels on the dime plus fees for

fixing nuts remix that we played that on the last show. Thank you, Sir Michael. John Catalano, 5271, just an hour in. 1896 is not just listenable, but enjoy it. Adams co-host is very likable in content and demeanor. It did not sound like a wannabe radio tushbag, please. Listeners since at least 2008. Well, that's the early days. Thank you for your courage.

Forrest Martin, $50.5. Alex Delgado and Aptos, California, 50. And Harold Hutton rounds us out from Merrickville, Ontario, with $50. Thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe. You have no idea how great it is to be able to continue. receive value back for the value that we are delivering. It is highly appreciated.

You can go to noagendatonadonations.com, support us with any amount. Anytime you feel like it, you could even set up a sustaining donation, which repeats over time, up to you, any amount, any frequency, noagendidonations.com. Baroness Carol Ann of Southern Colorado turned 67 years old today. Happy birthday, Baroness. Andrea McDonald wishes her dad. Lucas McDonald, a very happy birthday. Turns 59 tomorrow.

Want something from John's office. We have discussed sending you something. Don't think John can sign it for you anymore, though. And Tommy Y celebrates one day after me on September 4th. Looking forward to it, Tommy Y, happy birthday to these people from everybody at the best podcast, the in the universe. Order of the Ant, and congratulations to Lessa Jensen. Brett Caruthers, Sir Victor Baron of the Willamette Valley, Sir Nate of the Rogue Knight of the Rogue Valley,

Corder McDonald, Sir Keith Big Johnson, Dennis, Anonymous, Elizabeth Johnson, Zedoc Brown, the third, Joshua Johnson, Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, Cyril Beatty, and the No Agenda Shop. All of you will receive this handsome pin, the No Agenda Order of the Ant Pin. You can go to Noagenda Rings.com. That's where you can let us know where to send it to you. And thank you all so much for support. going for a while. Lots of people want to get in on this to get one of those great order of the ant pins and is a great ode to the one and only John C. DeVorak. We have three knights, no dames today, so I will

bring out my one singular blade and invite Brett Karoth Caruthers, Karothers, I got to get that straight. Joshua Johnson and Zadok Brown, the third, onto the podium here. Gentlemen, thanks to your support of the No agenda show and the amount of $1,000. or more. I'm very proud to pronounce the K-V-Tree Daddy of Hard to Say. That's right. Sir Double J

and Sir Foam of the Dan Bar. For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, along with gigawatt, dark roast coffee, milkshake, and Musubi. We've got street tacos and bush lights. We also have beer and blunts. We got cowgirls and coffin varnish, Rubeness, Ruben and Rosea, Geish and Saquette, Ginger Ale and Jervils, Press Milk, and Pablam, and Mutton, and Me. for you the same deal. Go over to no agenda rings.com. You deserve it. And if you just tell us what size you need for the ring, we'll send it off to you

along with some wax that you can use to seal your important correspondence. We get a lot of those in the PO box. Love it when people send us a note. You can tell that they're a knight or dame because they seal their envelope with the no agenda night or dame ring.

And tell us where to send it and we'll get it off to you as soon as possible. Thank you so much for supporting the no agenda show. We are the best podcast in the universe. No agenda. We got your meetups. We sure do. I hope that I have all...

You know, actually, I forgot to play one thing as we end our donations. And I apologize because he sent it to me twice. I just want to wind out our donations with Sir Felix, who we had not heard from since the COVID days. And he's gotten a little older. His voice is a little deeper. And he is obviously son to the... The drunken minstrel from Australia, Sir Chris Wilson.

Take it away, Felix. My name is Sir Felix Wilson the early night, and my dad is a douchebag. Some things stay the same, like my dad being a douchebag, but other things change like my voice and the host of no agenda. Not that long ago, my voice used to sound like this. Daddy, you're still a douchebag. Though sadly, that sweet childhood innocence has gone, but I'm still here to call out my dad as a douchebag.

And while our beloved John C. Devorak is no longer with us, the best podcast in the universe is here to call out my dad as a douchebag. Without the Gitmo Nation community and the best podcast in the universe, I would have grown up retarded like all my friends with swollen amygdala's shadow hits. Instead I've grown up a free-thinking human resource, being able to recognize retard when I see it, and importantly recognize when I'm being retarded myself. And so I keep my amygdala in check. Now more than ever, Gitmo Nation needs your time, your talent and your trade. For the sake of all our human resources, the children of Gipnodation like me, who've grown up with No Agenda for most or all our lives, go to Noagendadonations.com and donate now. We must secure the existence of our podcast and the future of Gipnonation Children. There you go. Think of the children, please. And thank you to the group in Rebo, Nevada for your No Agenda Meetup report. ITM. This is Dame Rita. This is the best meetup ever. really, connection is protection.

And I wanted to put out a word to Mimi and the Dvorak family. Adam, Tina, love and light. In the morning, this is Cyril from Reno. Connection is protection. We love you guys. Thanks for all you do. This was so inspiring. Thank you, Adam, and RIP John.

And you just make the world a better place than you make us and our households a happier place. Thank you. And these people have been great. Cool. In the morning. In the morning. Kevin at the Reno meetup. Last time I donated to the show, John actually misgendered me, which is the first time I

had been misgendered since I was in middle school and had long hair like Kurt Cobain. Sending a lot of love to the Dvorak family and love and light. In the morning, came to the meetup. Adam praying for you, Tina, and the Dvorak family. Take care. In the morning, this is Raoul from Sparks, Nevada. I got to meet Dame Rita and these wonderful people. Thank you, John, for every...

everything you did, you were an amazing man, and we severely miss you. Adam, Tina, Mimi, Buzzkill Jr., the entire family. You guys are in our hearts and prayers and our condolences. Thank you for everything you've given us for all these years. We love you guys. Connection is protection. Coming from JJ's Pye Code, the No Agenda crew was amazing. Ah, there it is. We got a server in there. Love that. Thank you so much. I hope I got all the meetup reports. getting crawling back out of my email, which has been quite busy, as you can imagine. Hey, there's three meetups taking place today. The first one is the IndyNA August, JCD Greek-Irish Wake at three o'clock.

So that is underway at Blindell Brewery in Indianapolis. I'm sure we'll get a beautiful report from Annette. That is Dame Marie and Sir Mark of the Greenwood, who always hosts that. The ants and the antipodes, antipodes. This is the Sir Chris Wilk, Chris, the drunk minstrel meetup, which probably happened yesterday, I think, in Australia. Is it Monday already? And Marigville, New South Wales, the gasoline pony. So hoping to get a meetup report from him, I'm sure we will.

And the central Arkansas, JCD Memorial kicks off at 6 o'clock. A dude named Jared now in Arkansas is organizing that. If you want to go, then all you have to do is go to noage and the meetups.com to find out all the details. about that. Coming up in August, we have Maastricht on the 28th. It's in Limburg, in the Netherlands, Nanaimo, British Columbia on the 29th, Albuquerque, New Mexico on the 29th, Rhode Island on the 29th, and Zurich, Switzerland, also on the 29th, looking forward to meet up from all of you. On the 30th, Chester Springs, Pennsylvania, Raleigh, North Carolina, and looking at September, on the 6th, Medford Lakes, New Jersey, Catawaba River, North Carolina, the 12th, Boise, Idaho,

The 15th, Scottsdale, Arizona, the 17th, Charlotte, North Carolina, and Petaluma, California, the 19th, Wilmington, California. We have meetups through October, including the October 17th, Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. I hope you all will join us for that. Of course, we have the big 19th anniversary coming up. Was it the 26th or the 28th of October? So we will be celebrating. Bittersweet, of course, without JCD. But he's looking down or looking up.

I hope it's looking down. and I'm sure he was smiling. Thank you all very much for your meetups. We're organizing them for sending in meetup reports. Go to a no agenda meetup, particularly now. This is a great time. You will meet people that you never would have met otherwise, and you will connect with them immediately.

And as you know, connection is protection. These people will be your first responders in any emergency. Go to know-agentamomitups.com. Easy to search. Easy to find one near you. If you can't find one near you, you know what to do. Start one yourself. and always a party.

All right, everybody, that's it for episode 1897. I'll be back on Thursday. Not quite sure who will be joining me, but we'll find someone appropriate and fun. If you can't wait until then, check out we get to do this on Wednesday. I do it with Pastor Jimmy. If you are decloaking coming back to your faith,

If you're Christ curious, check us out WGTDT.com. And of course, I'm looking forward to a great no agenda. Remember us at noagenda donations.com. If you're still on that modern podcast app or on noagendadestream.com, stay tuned for Grimerica 776, living from the soul. Of course, JCD loved the Grimerica show. He's been on, I think, at least two times, maybe more. So give those guys a listen.

And take care of yourself, Gitmo Nation, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country and leaving you with one more Just Baker, end of show mix. We will see you on Thursday. Till then, adios, mofos, a hooey-hooey, and such. I know it's fake, I know what's loud. I know that cheap talk is lost in the crowd. So take my little bit, turn it into sound, make it come. Cash for no agenda Cash for no agenda is

Cash for no agenda Agenda show Yes, my value for value Send it through Dash Big truth I keep it through So I keep it tight

I keep it right Don't need a hundred reasons to do this tonight One small move feels better than pride. I'm on your side. Ash for no. Just a target is. Ash for no. Agenda.

The North agenda show. It's my vans. Much but it's fine. I know. You push for the thing I need. Less noise. More proof. Let's spend more truth.

Value for value. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I can do that. The new agenda. The no agenda show. Mofo.

Deborra. Dude, it's like genius.