No Agenda - 1899 - "Asymmetric Intimacy"

Episode Date: August 30, 2026

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On the pod, on the pod, on the pod. Pod, yes. It's a podcast. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, August 30 at 2026. This is your award-winning, Gipa Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1899. This is no agenda.

Coming to you from the gateway to all drug trade throughout Europe, here in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, special guests from the All-In podcast, Jason Callicanus. J-Cal will be joining me to make sense of your world and deconstruct the media in less than one minute. Ladies and gentlemen, valued producers and pre-revenue start-ups burning 12 million a quarter. You don't get an intro like that everywhere, do you, Jason?

Oh, no, so great to be here. In the morning to you. That was a great intro. Love it. Jason is in, you're in the hill country in Texas, I believe. Yes. How long have you been in the hill country? This is year three for me.

I'm at the eastern ridge of the Edwards Plateau. As you know, that's the plateau. You and I in FEMA region number six. That's right. Thema region number six. You got a noisy room there, brother. What's going on? Okay.

Well, I'm coming in here. You got to get into that mic, man. This isn't like some video. podcast. We got a bunch of dudes on there, just, you know, yapping away with Skype taking care of everything. I'm sorry, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. I'm up on the mic here. Hopefully I'm okay. Yeah, that's good. I just dated myself. Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy week to do this. My pleasure. People don't know, but I have always been a huge fan of not just no agenda, but John C. Dvorak

in my early years, I used to race home after school to get the PC magazine and I would open it up and I would read about his column. And I always said, gosh, if someday I could get paid to do what this guy does, which is just

be a crumudgeon and get free product and then just, you know, say it's terrible and push him to do better. You know, and then growing up, you know, I grew up on MTV. and I got to see you as just a great broadcaster. And I've always just been a fan of your work as well, MTV,

what you did online, what you did, you know, building websites and your design company. So I always thought, you know, you and John were like big brothers to me to kind of study and watch what you do because, gosh, my whole career now is based on podcasting. People don't know this, but you created podcasting with Dave Weiner. And then my previous company, Weblog Zinc, my blog company, was based on Dave Weinhard, creating RSS. Now, wait a minute, don't we know each other from the 90s in New York? Yes, we were both in New York and the 90s. I was doing Silicon Alley reporter.

Silicon Alley, that's right. You were like that guy who was always trying to get scoops and stuff. Yeah, you know, I had about, you know, at the age of 23 or 24, I started zines. The punk rock thing to do was to build a website or have a zine. So I had a, like a photocopy zine, but I just timed the way of perfect. perfectly with, you know, the internet. And you timed it as well. You bought, like, the first domain names.

And I was just running around New York talking about CD-ROMs and Voyager and interactive websites. I was as, you know, fascinated as you. But I always wanted to be a broadcaster. And you were, like, you know, one of the first VJs, which was truly innovative in the world. And then there was Howard Stern. It was John C. DeVorek. And, you know, I got to just take notes. I took notes.

You know, it's funny you bring up MTV, which I usually don't think about or talk about. But I just saw Sean Lennon on Rick Biotto's podcast. You ever watch Rick Biatto? You know who he is? No, I don't even know. He's a guy who he has a studio and, you know, he's been recording and recording music for forever, I think. But he started to, I think YouTube, he's more of a YouTuber than a podcast. But he gets guys in, you get some famous musicians, and they're talking, they're playing,

talking about recording techniques. And probably for the last two years, he's talked nonstop about, you know, how AI is killing the music business, of course. And I actually, I pulled this clip because it was kind of fun. What scares me is that I used to be kind of anti-MTV in a way. You know, you're like, oh, MTV is just so... So this is Sean Lennon. Mainstream and corporate. But I miss it now, because I feel like there's no town square or campfire where we can all go and kind of at least know where culture is. Absolutely. In fact, there might be no place that culture is

because there's no single culture. There's cultures and they're all over the place. And of course, certain people managed to break through and resonate with bigger groups for periods of time, but it's never like Michael Jackson thriller. That's right. It ain't like that. And I think that was really good for humanity

because it kind of connected us. It made us family. Yes. We were family. Remember? Back in the day, we were family. Yes. I think actually early blogs and early podcasting was all we were also kind of family in a way back in the day.

Yeah, you know, there was a group of folks who were drawn to the internet in the early days. They were generally, you know, radical, freedom-loving, you know, explorers. And we just wanted people to get an internet connection and join the party, right? That was like the ethos of it when it was only a couple million people online. Then the web browser happened, dial up, etc. And then everybody went to blogging for a little bit, and then everybody went to podcasting. And I just remember when podcasting came out, I was just like, wow, you could actually be Howard Stern.

You don't need anybody. And literally you just telling Dave to add that little enclosure to the RSS feed changed the world. And, you know, listen, I don't mean to blow smoke or anything, but I don't think you get your do and I have like very few people you know at this level you know I have a top literally top five podcasts in the world most weekends you know um all in gets into the top five on the rankings is kind of crazy well I I hear you're the best podcast in the world which is still one step under best podcast in the universe well let me tell you that's called a hat tip sir

and so I there's a there was a literal hat tip to you because you were saying that long before I did and I literally this week was talking to Spotify. And I said, hey, guys, you know, listen, if you want me to tweet the link to Spotify, you've got to go listen to podcasting 2.0. And I want these two things, the donate button and the live button, I want you to respect, you know, the standards because I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for what Adam Curry and Dave did. And now, you know, as part of this ecosystem, you all need to support it. So, and then the value for value thing, when I started this week in startups, I tested it.

And it went just even back then, 16, 17 years ago. I think I started 16 years ago. You started 18 or 19? I think it's hard to remember. I think daily source code, it just celebrated 22 years, maybe. Okay. So you're probably at 19. I'm probably at like 16 or 17.

And I did that, but then I wound up getting all this advertising. But I wish I had just stuck with value for value. I think it's like it's another one of those like, innovative things you did in your career that I take notes. And when you get to the top of the game, like, who can you look to and say, okay, who's something innovative in the world? There's like no agenda. And what you and John did here and continue to do here, however you wind up. And that was my big question for you. It was like, where are you at in your journey? Because the community needs to know. But I just, there's very few people I take notes from. And you're one of

those people. So I always try to give you your due as I wouldn't have the career I have if it hadn't in for that moment, will you ask David in closure? So just a formal thank you for me. You're more than welcome. It just kind of happened. But, you know, what is so interesting is that all of a sudden you're like, you're in California, your early investor in, I want to say Tesla, but probably other things, maybe even Twitter.

Uber was the famous one. Uber, right. And then from there, you just expanded it into, you know, you've got your, you're, You started like seed funding and now I think you're a proper venture capital, you know, dude. And, you know, and it's just been a very interesting career. And I love that you ultimately just went, you know, I got to come back to the, I got to go to Texas. Which is the same as me. It's like I was East Coast guy, West Coast for just a little bit.

And like, no, Texas is the place. And that is just an interesting choice he made there. Isn't that interesting because we both had the same exact experience. We were in New York in the 90s, which for anybody who doesn't know, New York was the peak, like, just peak culture in the 90s. Hip-hop hit, MTV, the internet blogging. It was amazing. And the world was just for young people to do whatever they wanted. People just believed in youth.

It was literally like the 60s, probably. If John was here, he can tell us all about it. He would say no, but okay, he would like, bull crap. Yeah, well, see, it's not like the 60s. We did a lot of assured. I'll get into my JCD. I got some clips on the impersonation. Anyway, you're right.

And, you know, I got to spend a little time in L.A., a little time in the Valley. But then I watched as, like, New York went complete socialist, lunacy, crime, insanity. It's really heartbreaking for me because I grew up in Brooklyn to see that. And then in California, I just watched it go from, like, a place where it celebrated innovation, starting companies, entrepreneurs to hating them. And then a couple of my friends, Elon, Joe Lonsdale, but just a bunch of people started going to this place, Austin.

And I had been to Austin in the 90s for this little conference called South by Southwest. And I said, wow, this place is incredible. Like, this feels like Brooklyn where I grew up or it felt like San Francisco in the early 2000s when everybody was just rooting. for each other. And it was like, we're all in the same team. Let's innovate. And it really is like, I think the spirit of America lives here in Texas. And I'm just, I am loving it. I think, you're right. In fact, I got a clip from, from Los Angeles. What's the, who's the mayor now? Karen Bass, who let the place on fire in Africa while it was burning? This is a councilwoman who had a small moment of, uh, uh, who had a small moment of, uh, uh,

of clarity about something that Los Angeles wanted to implement. LA City Councilwoman Tracy Park is saying a hard no to one potential city project, Public Sex Huts. This comes after the idea was floated by a resident during a city council meeting. The idea was for a private place where homeless people could go to have some privacy as a couple or by themselves. Park introduced a man's suggestion in a video titled Things That Would Only Happen in L.A. But before even getting off the ground, Park made it clear, saying at the end of the video, quote, no, we are not doing public sex huts.

I guarantee you it's still going to happen. It's too good of an idea for Los Angeles. They love stupid stuff like that. You know, watching the homeless situation in San Francisco go from, you know, a thousand people, 2,000, and then, you know, hit tens of thousand. I realized this has, this is the wrong moniker. This has nothing to do with homelessness. It really is a tragedy.

It has to do with fentanyl and opioids. math. It's really sad because if you, God forbid, somebody in your family was on the street in one of these places and they were allowing people to freely sell fentanyl for five bucks a hit, 10 bucks a hit. And then they wouldn't arrest the fentanyl dealers who are all from like South America in these crazy gangs. And you let people live on the street. Any person who had a family member, again, God forbid, would say, please arrest them and put them in jail and just because they're going to get help. And the ability to get off that drug is like 10%, 5% best case scenario. And it's not compassionate to allow people to live on the street. It's not compassionate to allow

the super drug to be sold. But it's a liberal thing because this is exactly what happened to Austin. That's why Tina and I had to leave. I'll never forget, I went on Joe Rogan show when he was still in Los Angeles and was right before COVID. And so, you know, COVID's going on. everything's kind of weird. It was fine for me because I was just at home and John and I were having a good time trying to tell people this was nuts. And then Rogan calls me, he says, hey, I'm thinking of moving to Texas.

I was thinking Houston or Dallas. And I'm like, no, man, you've got to come to Austin. And so he comes to Austin near the tail end of COVID. And at this point, we're out. We're like, there's so many homeless, you know, I'm sorry, camping. and Joe calls me, he says, hey, man, I'm here, but this was all the tents. I don't know, man, I'm moving to Fredericksburg.

I mean, listen, really how you frame an issue, and this is, you know, one of the things I love about what you guys do, is you really challenge people to reframe their thinking, shout out Scott Adams, and to really deconstruct the media. If you call this a homeless problem and you use camping, well, then you're going to try to solve that set of problems. problems. The truth is, I call them junkies because when I grew up, what did you call somebody

who was addicted to junk, junkies? And people get very upset when I say that. And I'm like, got to use the accurate word. If you say they're junkies, then you know, okay, it's a 95% chance. This person is going to be dead in the next two or three years. And the only way to help them is to force them into rehab, or to put them in jail to detox them. And that is, sadly, the only solution. You cannot solve this by giving them a free home or giving them money. and California tried. And Austin, I think, is learning that hard lesson of like, you just can't enable it. And if you, you know, I spend time in Japan.

And in Japan, if somebody that you're like, why are there no homeless people? If somebody's, you know, homeless in Japan, they pick them up and they bring them to their family. And that is the process. And, you know, I think you can learn a lot from that. You know, if you have somebody in your family who's got this problem, picking them up, taking them from California, back to wherever they came from. Because if you talk, 90% of the people who are addicted in California

are from other places. They just know they can score. Yes, the weather, you can score and not go to jail, and they give you $800. So famous venture capitalist, Bill Gurley, told me, hey, you know, J-Cal, if you want to get more or something, you should pay for it.

And if you pay for it, you'll get more of it. And that's what California did. They were literally paying for every junkie in the country to come there. You know, it's sad. I'm in Rotterdam, the Netherlands right now. Finally, tomorrow, I will see my granddaughter for the first time. Yes.

I was supposed to come earlier, but we had a little death in the family. Yeah. And the Netherlands used to be no homeless. It wasn't a thing. And now you see them everywhere. It's, and there's no need for it. And that's drugs, obviously. It's just, it's a sad thing.

By the way, I'm going to be, I'm a little slow today because this was, and you travel internationally, this was not a great travel day we had. We left yesterday. The direct flight from Austin to Amsterdam was supposed to leave at six. So we really weren't in the air until 7.30. And as much as I like KLM, they really had the older crew. And they were slow. So dinner really wasn't, you know, our time. wasn't really being served until 9.30.

And, you know, the lights are on. You can't, you know, you can't really close your eyes. And I stupidly started to watch Operation Hail Mary with Ryan Gosling. Have you, have you seen that movie? I did. I did. Yeah, not bad. It's two and a half hours.

And, you know, so I'm eating during it. And so anyway, so I wind up sleeping maybe an hour and a half, two hours. We land now. And then we got to get from Amsterdam to Rotterdam. I forgot with traffic. And it's just, you know, it took a nut. So we're here. Arduous.

At 1.30 in the afternoon. And then, oh, we're sorry, the room won't be ready until three. So it's just, oh, man. It's just been one, one mishap after another. But anyway. Well, we'll get through it. We'll get through it. Hey, man, I got a question for you.

Yeah. Got a question for you. Because the audience wants to know, like, how are you doing with, you know, John passing, obviously and figuring out the next chapter. And obviously you're trying different things here. I was super flattered that you asked me to fill in one day. But what's your thinking here? Like you're going to keep going.

You're going to do it once a week. I mean, you always joked about the exit strategy. Where's your head at right now? Because I can't imagine having a 20-year collaborator. And then it goes. And then you got this huge community that's, you know, hey, they want you to keep going. but is it, can it be the same? Or, you know, I don't know.

I'm just thinking about, I've been thinking about you and I've damed you a bunch, you know, and I've just been thinking about you. You've actually been very encouraging. You know, we, we've deemmed from time to time. And you've always been very encouraging. I've always appreciated that, especially because John and I would make such fun of you on the show all the time. Fair game. And, you know, so what people don't, well, they realize it, but they don't, is that for me,

Okay, my, it was a performance. You know, John and I did a show together and it was a, man, you're breathing real head. Something's, hold on a second. What do you do? No, you know what? My air purify went on. Oh, is that what? It's the hepa filter.

Turn that thing off. So, um, with John passing was not just, you know, my business partner, my performance partner. I mean, he died. But the show died. What the show was died and can never, ever come back. And that, I'm not sure, to be honest. I mean, I've been doing other things. I have a company called Godcaster, and we've been doing stuff with that.

I really love We Get to Do This that I do with Pastor Jimmy, which is, you know, it's a version of no agenda. I am passionate about that. I've enjoyed these past few shows with people, you know, people who I want to just, who I like working, I've always wanted to work with. Like, hey, I wonder what it'd be like to do a show with Rob Doe? What would it be like to do a show with Jason Calacanis? What would it be like to do a show with Matt Long? I mean, I'm thinking of Tom Luongo.

I don't know if you know who he is from the Gold Goats and Guns podcast. Yeah. So I want to do that, but I don't know. I really don't know. It's to be seen. I'm definitely struggling. This is part of the process to figure out what to do. I mean, I feel that I probably have some other things to do. So I'm just not sure yet, Jason. I'm really not. Yeah. Well, it's a process. And clearly the community is supportive of what you're doing. You know, I was thinking about it. And I do listen to the other one. We get to do this. I think it's great. I don't talk about the fact that I'm a Christian and I grew a Catholic.

I didn't even know that. I mean, all of a sudden, you're like, hey, brother. Well, I don't cloaked with you. Yeah, you decloaked right in front of me. I'm like, look at him. Well, you know, it's like, you know, you talk about it publicly. People are like, okay, that's weird. Like, you base some of your opinions on what you learned, you know, about Christ and his lessons, etc. And I'm like, yeah, pretty special guy. Even if you don't think he's the son of God. you know, get some good lesson. So anyway, I think that pot is fantastic and I can feel the positivity and the energy from it. But there's something very weird about podcasting and, you know, I'm probably one of the few people who can relate to this strange phenomenon which you have, which is people recognize you at an airport or, you know, and they just are, it's asymmetric intimacy. They really know you. They really love you. Yeah, yeah. Really feel like they're your friend. It's so charming.

Parassocial. But you don't, it's parisocial. is the fancy word for it. And I call it like asymmetrical intimacy. And they just think, wow, Jaycal, I'm your buddy because you're in people's ears. These aeropods and the regular cadence every Thursday, every Sunday, no agenda coming at you in the morning.

And you guys were so good at it together that it forms that habit. And then it's really jarring to have it change or go away. And that woman who was crying in Australia, just like some news lady. Newscaster? She's a dame. She's a dame for many, many years. Dame Sarah. She does.

Dave Sarah. Yeah, she was doing Good Morning Australia or Good Morning Sydney or something for many years. Oh, yeah. But you're exactly right. And every day I still get notes, you know, like I had no idea. I never cried for anyone. I didn't know before. And people were destroyed.

Yeah. Anyway, I don't really like flying here is very odd because the flight attendants to go like, aren't you Christina's dad? Fantastic. You're a granddad now.

Hey, let's, I'm so glad you did this. None of the other guests, co-hosts have tried this out. But you threw an absolute three by three. Three by three. Hey, it's never met by JCD Yeah, baby comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC

All right, three by three All right, three by three We haven't had a three by three since the passing of the great JCD But Jason, you brought it So what are we doing here? All right, well, I like John, I'm addicted to the Sunday morning shows

And obviously the midterms are coming up You talked about the last two episodes, midterms, midterms, and here we are again. Midterms. Oil, midterms. Yes. What's going to, what is actually happening? And during all this midterms, midterms, midterms, now we got something really interesting. Venezuela, oil, Strait of Hormuz, China and Russia, all of this is becoming, it's all starting to come together, like a plot from homeland or something.

something because here is the week on Canada. This is the week, first part of our three by three, and a Canadian politician just talking about Venezuela oil, which we just did a big deal for. The President Trump announced on Friday that he had made a deal with Venezuela to take control of 65 billion barrels of its oil. How concerned are you about that? Because right now, Canada makes up 60 percent of the United States crude oil imports. Does this give him a bigger bargaining chip? Well, you know something, that's going to be up to President Trump. Who do you want to deal with an unstable government like Venezuela?

Or do you want to deal with your number one trading partner, your number one ally that has stood shoulder to shoulder through almost every single war that both countries have been in? We're allies, we're best friends. Our trading is so integrated. We need to get a deal that's beneficial. for both countries. And you'll see

both countries thrive and prosper and grow. Now we go on. We will keep our eye on all of that. We thank you for your time this morning, Premier Ford. That was Ford. Of course it was. Yes.

Yeah, Florida is. Brother of the other Ford. Yes. Speaking of junkies. So, we're out of. Here's Ted Cruz on MTP. Meet the press coming in. My next question.

Let's turn to Venezuela this deal. President Trump announced on Friday to take control of more than 65 billion barrels of oil there. Senator Cruz, you have been calling for free and fair elections in Venezuela, which the administration has been promising since it arrested Nicolas Maduro. Do you believe elections should be held in Venezuela before any oil deal is finalized? Well, let me start by saying that the oil deal as announced sounds like it could have a very positive impact on the United States, on the United States economy, on American jobs, and a very positive impact on gas prices over the long term. Sixty-five billion barrels of oil is an enormous amount of oil. And so I commend President

Trump for an agreement that on its face appears to have a really positive economic benefit for America. The question you asked, the answer is absolutely yes. There need to be democratic free elections in Venezuela. Delci Rodriguez was Nicholas Maduro. Maduro's vice president. Maduro was illegitimate. He was a Marxist. He had seized power contrary to the will of the voters. And from the beginning, I have been urging, and I believe the administration is working towards this, that there should be free and fair elections. Before an oil deal is finalized. Who the leader should be. I think that's good at Sam Cruz.

You know, if we learned anything from JCD, it was that this is bull crap. this the Venezuelan crude is like tar you know it's not it's not like oh you can just take this to America and boom you put it in your car it's dirty it's well it's thick it's it's got to be processed yeah and it's like no this isn't an obvious ploy for the midterms obvious ploy for you know to try and I don't think anyone's falling for it but to reduce the the overall price per barrel of oil that's I mean, and it was our oil to start with. Our company set all of that up. So it's like, no, it sounds like a really big deal.

But I also know from the oil baron that it's going to take $100 billion of investment to really start moving all that stuff. It's not like, you know, it's just done. And then, yeah, Fox News commented on it as well, but I think it's pretty, to JCD's point, it's just another rehash of the same deal. And then at the same time, I don't know if you saw the breaking news, and there's no audio clip for this, unfortunately. There's talk that they're dredging.

Yeah, a canal. A canal. Yeah. In the Strait of Hormuz that we will own with Oman. So now you start putting all this together. I don't know how you feel about it. The war was obviously a mistake in my mind. I think we had,

with the strategic bombing and cutting things off, and not letting them make progress. And now he's got to reverse that with 60 days or 45 days. So this is all about the midterms. I completely disagree. Okay, here we go. Because both Venezuela, remember, it was Venezuela first and Iran. You know, the oil, the cash flows from the oil, people don't understand.

This money was going somewhere. And after you've bought all your homes in London, and in Switzerland, you know, where was it going? Well, Venezuela, drugs, Iran, terrorism, financing, all kinds of nonsense all over the world. And, you know, my opinion is that the Bank of London, Bank of England had, you know, or really, the London Financial Center had been just managing this oil there for, you know, for 80 years, really going back to the British Petroleum days. And they've always, you know, controlled the flow of the oil, the price of the oil.

And it was time to stop that nonsense. So I was actually okay with it. And I love hearing, you know, our gay general Patton, Scott Besson, saying, well, you know, the Strait of Hormuz, you'll be windsurfing there because all the pipelines have, you know, they're already in place, but they were in place, but they're all now being expedited to transport a lot more. And it's just not going to matter. And it won't be ours per se,

but it will be our quote unquote new friends, Saudi Arabia, UAE, you know, UAE now no longer in OPEC. So I think that's, I mean, to me, I'm pretty sure he didn't mean for it to last for six months. That was very short, very short-sighted. But I don't think he cares, Jason. I don't think he cares about the midterms.

I don't think he gives a crap about it. He wants steel production in America and he wants oil to not be controlled really by anybody as long as we have enough of it for ourselves. That's what I think his plan was. Yeah. And so he was told by a lot of the cabinet, hey, don't do this. Let's just keep doing the strategic bombing thing. But he went for it.

It was a gamble. And I think you're correct. He thought, hey, Venezuela took three days. What's the max? This could take 30. I can get this done. We have the greatest military of all time, but he hasn't gotten it done. And I think that's going to be the challenge. I think you're going to lose. I think the Republicans are going to lose this, you know, house or maybe the Senate. It's, you know, kind of a jump ball with the Senate. Maybe they deserve to lose. Maybe, you think, starting a war after you told everybody you wouldn't. That's the problem is now the entire, all the people who are as big as supporters, I'm just watching them all go, you know what? I didn't want this. I didn't want a war. You told me no war.

Now you can't control inflation because if you start a war, inflation's going to go up. It's going to be permanent. It's going to be persistent. And that's, I think, the big challenge is the two promises he made. I'm going to not do any wars and I'm going to control inflation. Both of those, he can't solve them now. I think they're unsolvable and the rest of his presidency. We'll see, 26 months, 27 months left.

Again, I don't think he cares. I really don't. The ultimate goal was he's not getting. getting reelected. He wants to fix something very structural. That's my opinion. And now you have this operation economic outcast, which means for the first time a Treasury Secretary is going to turn off the money tap for countries that are essentially taking, you know, laundering Iranian oil money to wherever it has to go. I actually got a clip here from, what is this? This is Kyle Bass. I think he might have been on CNBC. He was talking about China. So how does China react to this?

Yeah. I mean, your supposition is correct. China buys almost all of Iran's oil, 90% plus. It's about 15% of what China imports daily for its energy needs. And so, look, the way that this works is the Iranians sell oil to China and R&B. And then cash houses in the UAE have been the ones changing the R&B for dollars for the Chinese. So if you saw last week, the UAE came out and said they're going to cut Iran off. I know it took the UAE a while and many attacks to realize that they should cut Iran off. But I think you're going to see Treasury Secretary Besson and his sanctions team headed up by Gene Lang. You're going to see them make a, they're going to make an example of a bad bank this Friday. So I think you're going to see Iran only has about 30 million barrels of oil

left on the water, these enhanced sanctions will absolutely strangle Iran. The people that say that they need Iran's cooperation or we're not going to go after China, they don't know what they're talking about. I think you're going to see some real, let's say, constriction of our, of our sanctions on Iran and then on China. Yeah. Remmbi. Somebody asked in the troll room, what's RMB? That's the Chinese dollar. They said it typically at eight per U.S. and they control it. And if you have rem and B, you cannot get it out of the country. Chinese citizens allow to take 50K out. But sometimes they get a thumb drive and they put Bitcoin on it or Zcash and they get it out. You know, this is, the thing I'm concerned

about is contagion of this war and how long it's going to take. And now China and Russia are looking at this going, hmm, they can't fight two wars, certainly can't fight on three fronts. and to your point, like, what is Trump's motivation here? He keeps saying the war's over, he solved it, etc. Said he would solve Ukraine. And I think people just don't believe him anymore. And so I don't think he's going to get it done. I don't think he's going to get it done.

Ukraine is, he's completely given up on that. And I think selfishly, he's like, well, you know, everyone's moved up to 5%. Now we'll just sell all the missiles. and, you know, we're making out like bandits. There's no, you can't talk to these people in Europe. They're insane. The, you know, the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, France, they're nuts. They are in a war mindset.

That's all they care about. From what I can see, they're just going to, you know, keep going until everyone in Ukraine is dead. There's already no men that just, you know, they're rousing them on the street if you're walking around. I read today the average lifespan of a new recruit on the front on the front lines is like 30 minutes and they're dead they're emptying out the entire country

and the Europeans, the people in Europe they're like, I don't even know there's a war. No one's walking around worried about it. And on the other side, Putin was supposed to go right to Kiev. I think I'm supposed to pronounce it. No, Kiev. No, you've got to say Kiev. Kiev. Come on.

I mean, I don't know. Kiev, Kiev. On this show. We say Kiev? Chicken Kiev. I mean, I don't know. Chicken Kiev. Kiev.

That's with the cheese and the sauce. Anyway, they were supposed to roll in there in three days. What happened? His tanks were all rusted. And then he's got to go recruit people from North Korea to be on the front lines. Ah, you watch too much a M5M, Jason. You're watching way too much. You think I'm getting bad information?

I, I, this is the other thing that, you know, obviously plays into this is, China wants Taiwan. They want those fabs. And this is just going to embole them to start making their move. They're going to take them. But they're not going to stop producing. This is the thing. We are China's number one customer.

They're not going to go to war with us. Who's going to buy their junk? It's only us right now. So, you know, we're trying to onshore chip fabrication. You know, that takes a long time. So we'll never catch up to, was it to T-M-C. Yeah, TSMC.

We'll never catch up to that. But what? China's not going to sell the chips to us if they take over Taiwan, really? What's going to happen? I mean, I have some inside information on this from boots on the ground kind of thing. And the plan is to, when they make their move, to get all the scientists out there who manage those fabs. And those fabs are built by a company in one of the Nordics. those really refined fabs, and then they're going to either burn the fabs or move them out on carriers. And think about that.

Like, they are going to burn the bridges. That's the inside line is that they will never let China have those fabs. But, you know, Elon's building a tariffab. A tariffab. Oh, Elon, yeah, a tariffab. That's the real deal, by the way. It's a real deal. How about the data centers in space?

Real deal? Yes, but three years out. So here's the thing. If you can put those, I love that. Well, no, putting the star links up,

the difference between a star link and these new ones is there a little bigger, but they'll be able to communicate between each other. And they're going to be bigger, but the new starship is bigger. So proportionally they should be able to manage it.

But it's like, Elon is right. The joke we have is, Elon's always right. He's just always late too. He's like, Whatever he says, if he says two years, it's four. If he says it's three years, it's six, right?

Just he's very ambitious, and that's a technique he uses with his team. But the thing you'll see before data centers in space is data centers in big box retail locations and data centers in planned communities. So imagine you got one of these planned communities in the hill country, and you tell everybody, hey, I'm going to put a battery pack there. You get the battery pack for free. and then you have battery backup for when we lose power here, which happens every January for two weeks, apparently.

Then they say the price, the only price you got to pay is we're going to put some H-100, some H-200, some Vero-Wang, whatever chips in that battery, and then connect them by fiber or whatever, and you distribute it like that. And then take big box stores, your Wal-Mart's, your targets. I think that's fantastic. They have tons of energy. I think it's fantastic because when all this stuff crumbles, we'll all be mining Bitcoin at home.

It's going to be great. I have a question for you because... Okay, here we go. The president had his crypto-crypto summit, which in essence was meant to tell everybody, hey, we need the clarity act so we can finally get those stable coins out there so we can tokenize the United States debt. But there was something in here,

and I had not heard this before, and they heard it again just two days ago. It's at the end. Hold on. Actually, I'll speed this up a little bit here. I'll pick it up here. China. And I never want to underestimate China,

but right now we're way ahead. President. She's coming on September 24th. We look forward to it. We'll probably be talking about AI and a lot of other things. But we're doing tremendously well, largely because of people and some other friends of ours that are on the board, and they'll be here in two weeks. Now, listen to this.

In May Chairman, Selleag authorized the first ever true Bitcoin perpetual futures contract on a CFTC registered exchange first time. I understand that Mike is also working to bring hyperliquid into the United States in a fully compliant and legal fashion. So I heard, I'm like hyper liquid, what is this? And I heard it again just a couple days ago. And so I take a look at it. And I had to learn what perps were. Are you familiar with perps? I don't know perps.

I mean, I know all about stable coins and tether and USDA. I know that space. So perps is perpetuity. So there's these exchanges. Hyperliquid is, I think, run out of Singapore by some Harvard kid. And you can trade. It's a bit like what's the gambling? market sites.

Oh, like you're talking about Cal She and Polymark. It's a bit like prediction markets, only you're trading futures that never expire. So, but there's, there's 15 billion dollars a day being traded on this hyper liquid in oil futures. No one gets delivery of the oil. You either win or you lose, basically. It's like sports gambling. You're gambling on the price of oil in the future. Yeah, but because it's a 24-7 exchange, it's setting the price.

That's why Trump wants it in the U.S., you know, regulated, which I doubt will ever happen, because they're setting the price. And then, you know, when the markets open Monday morning, people are like, well, this is the price. Yeah. This is a very different world we're going into. I don't think people realize that these perps, as they're called, this is a big deal that is just not, well understood or being discussed. Yeah, and the stable coins are the other kind of big part of the story.

You know, they have always been offshore and they would keep like tether if you look into that company offshore, very strange holdings in it. They're supposed to hold dollar for dollar. And what Trump did, that was very smart. You know, and I always try to give them credit for me, does something correctly. The stable coins, getting those to be back dollar for dollar with our treasurer. I think it's genius. It's pure genius because now he can say, hey, listen, Tether, if you want to work in America,

instead of buying Chinese paper, they were buying Chinese real estate paper according to all these reports. They couldn't do an audit because they had taken like. They would fail. They would fail, basically. And then they said, okay, well, Circle, run by Jeremy Aller, who you probably have known through like three or four internet companies. Yeah, what was his previous company?

I'm trying to remember the other two. There was one that was the video serving company and the one before that was Cole Fusion, the web publishing. We're going real old school here. Colfusion, that was right after front page got bought by Microsoft. Cold fusion, wow. This is back when Adam was a billionaire for making websites for corporations. Yeah, on paper.

That didn't happen. On paper, yeah. Can you imagine, like, people at that time were, like, we'll give you $4 million to build our website, and now you can just talk to like any... But with $75,000 a month in maintenance. Yes, the maintenance, yes. We're going to keep your server up and running. The HTML is going to be so crisp. And we'll give you a server log and we'll calculate the hits and we'll tell you you're doing great.

Absolutely. You're doing it. Yes, big pat on the back. It's going to change everything. And it did change everything, but now you can get Squarespace or you can do it with the clock code. Wix. Yeah, Wix, for $6 a month, the same website, better website, arguably. And so this stable coin is now making people buy treasuries dollar for dollar.

And that is just such a masterstroke. But that's all part of this. And that's what this long-term paper buying is all about because Besson takes the 30 years off the market. And then he's putting these T bills up, which for Wall Street are cash 90 days. and who's going to buy that is going to be those guys. Yeah. It's going to be tether and circle. Yeah.

And so it's just another way to kick the can down the road with our... Oh, yeah. It's for our great-grandkids. Oh, no, no. It's not going to work long term. But for now, it's a pretty good idea. What other choice to be... Well, of course, there's the tariffs.

And this is... The president has such a hard-on for the... Oh, he loves tariffs. And it's interesting because, you know, He had those initial tariffs, which he kind of, you know, under some emergency declaration thing. But he's pulling out tariffs that have been on the books since 1929, 1940, 1890s, all perfectly legal.

And with good reason, he truly believes, and this is Besson 2, that with tariffs, they can grow, we can grow our way out of our debt. And we won't even pay income tax anymore. So it's a great idea. And this is... Poorly executed. That's the problem. Well, and this is what the deal with Canada.

Because I was trying to figure out, what is the problem? You know, I actually have, what's your name? The woman who is now the advisor to Ukraine. But I caught this clip from, I don't know where it was from. But this is, this explains why, you know, the final straw. that broke the camels back with the Canada trade deal. And now we're going to really squeeze the IRGC here and cut the blood flow off to the tumor. Well, as we've seen in sub-Sahara Africa, all it takes is some warlords with a little money just to keep the chaos going.

In the meantime, you have President Trump suggesting that reportedly he may do another round of tariffs on China up to 7.5% all ahead of Xi Jinping's meeting. How crucial is this meeting? And especially given the fact that we just saw trade talks with Canada, high level, didn't go anywhere. In fact, it made things worse, not better. Yeah, look, on Canada, Canada just wants to keep its right to transship Chinese goods into America. They make a lot of money on those transshipments. So Canada's got to get this act together. There it is.

Canada was just passing, you know, like, oh, we'll take the stuff. And you won't have to pay any tariffs because we got low tariffs with America. And we'll just sell that stuff in through us. That's what was going on. Yeah. He had the right idea, but the chaotic execution of the tariffs then led to them being, you know, some portion of them being overturned. It's kind of like the immigration stuff, not to pivot the discussion, but, you know,

closing the border, everybody wanted that, chasing people down in the streets, you know, with masked men with no badges, people didn't want that. You have to execute these things correctly. And that's always the challenge with Trump is like the chaotic execution. or having people who are just not qualified or just not good at executing, right? You hire somebody for the loyalty and they're not good at executing. They close the border perfectly. He's got to do the other pieces.

He's working on the marketing. He's working on making it not just about brown people. And good evening. We begin with that breaking news late today. The Department of Homeland Security arresting right-wing commentator Milo Yanopolis. This was so awesome. Oh, so great. This is so classic.

The 41-year-old and early supporter of President Trump, 2016 campaign is now in ICE custody. DHS releasing this photo of him and that quote, calling him an illegal alien who chose to overstay his welcome. Yonopoulos, who has backed President Trump's broader immigration crackdown, also recently broke with the president, posting on acts that Trump had, quote, lost his way. Chief White House correspondent. Anyway, I just thought that was funny.

I thought that was killing. That was on my dogged as well. I knew Milo Yanopolis, because we're both Greek, Alcanis. Yonopoulos when he was a legit journalist in the UK and he got into the blogging thing. He saw what I was doing at Weblogs. He saw what Nick Denton was doing. A tech blog or something? Yeah.

And he started his own little blog network, hired a couple of our bloggers, then didn't pay them according to them. I don't know. Who knows? This is 20 years ago. But then he comes and he does this whole Trump thing. He calls the Trump win early. He got on that train early.

But then he's been for the last couple of years just talking about like, that he wants to masturbate to people being, you know, deported. And then they literally pick him up at the airport. But I've got to be honest. You know, I have a nuanced view of immigration. Number one, you've got to close the border. Okay, I think we all agree on that. Not nuanced there, 90% agreement.

I think you've got to have like a path for amnesty for people who've been in for 20 years because, frankly, we waive them in to get cheap labor. And it's like not their fault. And we use them for 20 years. But then there's this other piece, which is, just people cheating. And Milo is basically cheating. And if he's cheating and he's here and it's an expired visa, whatever it is, and they pick you up at the airport, well, number one, you went to the airport with an expired visa. You're supposed to get picked up and kicked out. If you go to Japan,

if you go to Saudi, if you go to Dubai, you go any of these places, London, I think today, not previously, and you have an expired visa, there's no discussion. You get back on the plane. They send you home. That's how it's supposed to work. And you have to do this properly, again, execution matters so that you can actually recruit the top talent around the world to come become Americans. If you can get the top talent here, every time we recruit somebody, you know, on the level of, you know, a CEO, an incredible talent, the other country loses them. And then those people pay massive taxes. They create tons of jobs. But the H-1B visa and Milo.

overstaying is welcome. Though that's the abuse of the system that I saw firsthand. And it's so abusive that then it makes every American think, okay, we just got to be like shut off every type of immigration. And you actually want to keep the scientists who come here to get their PhDs, not send them home. You want to keep them here, have them start families here, and force them to assimilate and become part of the melting pot. That's the best strategy. But Trump can't do that because everybody thinks it's chaotic. I was actually glad to see Milo get picked up because he's breaking the rules. And there's other people who are not breaking the rules.

And that's profoundly unfair. So when are you going into politics, Jay Cal? Because that's the only thing you haven't done yet, brother. You got to go. Here's, so I think this was Joe Kernan on CNBC. I hope this is the clip because he was, he was. He's hilarious. Oh, he's, I love that guy.

He's torches. So he has Christia Freeland on who, she was the finance minister. She was, wasn't she the lady that was arresting the truckers taking their Bitcoin away and closing their bank accounts? So she's now an unpaid

consultant to Ukraine. Canada's retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. are set to take effect on September 8th. Joining us now, Christian Freeland, our old friend, Canada's former Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance. She's currently the CEO of the Roads Trust. And this October, she's out with a new

book, Unreliable Boyfriend, an insider's view of dealing with a chaotic superpower, plutocrats, and other complicated of the Canadian economy, too, and China and everything else. But do you know what happened when the talks broke down? Because President Trump seemed to sort of admit that he made some last-minute demands that kind of scuttled the deal. Do you know what actually went on? I think it's so great to be with you, Joe. And I think that Prime Minister, Carney has been really clear about what happened. You know, as he put it, the U.S. asked too much and gave too little. And he said that at the last minute, extreme demands

emerged touching on Canadian sovereignty, touching on cultural protection, which is important in general and particularly important for Quebec and for Francophone Canadians. So, and, you know, the thing... That's the part I didn't really understand. You know, I heard this mention... What did he say? Like, you all got to speak English or what was the problem with the French? Trump is a stand-up comic.

He's like, he's up there with Chappelle. He knows how to break balls, like, better than anybody. And he's like, yeah, you know, we'll just take, you know, one of your provinces will make it part of the United States. I think the expansionism of the United States is actually... again, back to like execution and ideas. Like, it's actually one of his great ideas. If Venezuela became part of the United States, sounds crazy, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Greenland, whatever they are, if people want to join the U.S., if we, in fact, do have the best system, why shouldn't we

be inviting people to join it and get a 51st, 50-second state in here? Obviously, it's super polarizing and complicated. But I like when he's in that mode. But I don't know what his goal is with Kennedy here, if he's just, you know, trolling them and he's doing it for the lulls, it feels like he's just breaking their chops and it's entertaining for him. Well, so, Conan had some more stuff to say here, which I thought was interesting. Touching on cultural protection, which is important in general and particularly important for Quebec and for Francophone Canadians. So, and, you know, the thing I really want to say, Joe, is there are so many problems in the world. China is a real problem.

I'm just back from Ukraine late last night. Russia is a huge problem. Iran is a huge problem. At a time when dictatorships are on the march, it is absolutely nuts for the United States to be picking a fight with a country that has always been its really good friend. And we currently have a trade deal that Canada negotiated. I was the lead negotiator with Donald Trump himself. I think this is the last thing America needs.

It's the last thing the world needs. And I think it's a real shame. Now, listen to this, because what Kernan's about to say here, it's really the last thing Canada needs. GDP growth in Canada over the last 10 years, you're dead last, basically, with OECD countries. You're at 0.5%. The United States was 20.7%.

I think we can look at this. I mean, dead left. And it's not just the last 10 years. The OECD is, It's not going to get any better. It's going to get much worse. Between 2020 and 2030, your dead last, projected to be, out of the OECD's 38 members, tied with Italy at 46% below the OECD average. And then the next 30 years after that, dead last again.

What went wrong? I mean, you know the inner workings of Canada. Is it, you know, is it regulation? Is it permitting? Is it high taxes? is it the Canadian people deserve to have a better standard of living. It shouldn't be going down over a 10-year period. So basically.

Joe, I just, before answering that question, which I want to do, I just want to pick up on something you said about China. Yeah, okay. So she's just going to distract from the question. But then there's, you know, these tariffs, you know, the president is all, he's like he loves McKinley. President McKinley, he was the man. He understood tariffs.

He got, I think he got shot, assassinated. But he's McKinley, McKinley, McKinley. And then I find this little ditty of a clip, which when I hear this, like, holy crap, Trump is just replaying an old playbook. There's been the sort of slow, steady deterioration of relations between the United States. And what a week has gone by in bilateral relations. This guy's a loser. He's going to be a loser. Changing the name of Lake Ontario, effective immediately to Lake America. I don't feel that he is the right person for the job.

This is a man on the street. This is from, I think, global news. So typical, you know, very easy to pull these clips and only, you know, to slant it one way. But then they come in with a bit of history about McKinney. As far as president goes. It's disappointing, actually, you know, because it didn't used to be that way. It's, and it's changed. Well, we've had tough times with the United States before.

Obviously, they have invaded us twice, but we're talking, you know, over 200 years in the past. So we're not at that. But as with so much in life and politics, politics, history can tend to repeat itself. Probably the best example would be in 1890 when the McKinley tariffs came in. These were as high as 50%. So very similar to what we're seeing now because they wanted to annex Canada and make it the 45th state. Where have I heard that before? He's running the McKinley Playbook.

Most tariffs sent prices sky high in the states while Canada sought other trading partners. Then U.S. tariffs happened again in 1930. and they worsen the effects of the Great Depression for both sides. Yeah, the timing is very critical when you want to do these tariffs. And, you know, it might be that the timing is the worst possible case. And this is where we get into your wheelhouse because I really enjoy the all-in pod. I think, and I can't believe I called it that because I hate the word pod and I think it should be banned. And you guys say it all the time on the pod, on the pod.

And the pod. Yes. It's a podcast. It's a podcast. But you're really on, you're on, first of all, you're big fans of artificial intelligence. But I think you're calling it correctly with what anthropic and open AI are trying to do by, you know, basically sciopping dumb government people. Yes, and regulatory capture. Yeah, into this.

So that we can't run our open. our open source models anymore because, ooh, it might be dangerous and it might get loose and it might attack somebody. Yeah, about two years ago, on the pod, I said, I think there's a chance. On the pod. I'm on the pod. On the pod. I'm going to make me break into my Adam Curry person.

That's okay. I get stuck in it. If I get stuck in it, I can't get out. I'm just letting you know, fair warning. That's okay, Jason. I can do you. You can give me the lish. Jake Carl Kirschney the morning.

All right, coming at you. It's Adam Curry. It was on the plane to Moscow. Yeah, it's coming at you. There was so much cocaine from the pilot all the way to the back. Never, never, never on the way. Never doing the cocaine and the MTV, VJ Day. It's coming at you.

Now, see, it's a problem, Calcanus. Yeah, see? He thinks he's got a good impersonation of us. That was my head of Eugene Robinson of J.C.R. IP. But here's the thing. I said like two years ago, I think open source could run away with this because I had gotten some of these early open source models. And I ran them locally. It's not that hard to do. And it's gotten easier and easier and easier. And once you start experiencing it local on your machine, you start getting a 128 gigs, 256 gigs on a Mac studio, whatever it is, you realize I can become unmetered. Unmetered. It's a same experience you and I had when you got an ISDN line or a T1. You went from paying. No more dial-up.

No $3 an hour, no $5 an hour where you're watching the clock. When you are not watching the meter, your behavior changes. And then you start really using these tools. And then I realized, like, I got a harness. I started playing with Ermas, OpenCla, all these different harnesses, etc. And somebody sent me like a BitTensor API key for them running. uh, Z-A-I's G-L-M-5-2. And they said, here, Jake Al, this is running across like a network of almost like Bitcoin servers. And I just had it running jobs doing like research for the pods and everything,

blah, blah, blah, sorry, podcast, put a nickel in the jar. Um, so I was like, wait a second, you can control your destiny. You don't have to take all of your intelligence from your business, your life, and give it to Anthropic and give it to Sam Woman and give it to Dario. there's like two reasons to move to local, to move to open source. One, AI sovereignty. They're taking all your knowledge and reinforcement learning it into their system. Even though they say they're not, it's BS. They're taking the outputs.

They're testing it. I don't believe them, nor should you. And the same thing now, if you can start using these open source models, and they were, what would you say, 18 months, 12 months behind the frontier models, and now they're three? now they're three, I think. Six months maybe. Okay, sure.

And so you and I know this. Like six months behind means, I would say right now, 90% of the work I do can be done by open source. And the last 10% that I would use Fable for, one of these things, okay, sure, you know, maybe I'll do it if I absolutely have to. But you can just get yourself completely off of this. And this is where those two companies specifically,

when they go public, I've been talking to some of their customers. I had like 11 labs. I interviewed the CEO of 11 labs. I got off of 11 labs. I was paying $300 a month and now I'm running it at home unmetered for free. Exactly. So now you're unmetered. It's free.

And then they were looking at their business going, the reason they have to charge your $300 is because they were giving, you know, $250 of it to clod, you know, anthropic or open AI. So what they started doing is 11 labs, some of these legal companies, Lagora, I think is the name of it. And what's the other one? lovable, which is like, you know, vibe coding kind of software for people who are not developers. Those companies are now forking open source and then building their own verticalized model.

So you're going to hear about verticalized SLMs, verticalized small language models. Just models that can run on your laptop. You get these new MacBooks. You get these ones with 128. You get a Mac Studio with 256. You spend $6,000, which is, by the way, half of what we used to spend in the 80s on computers. you know, if you were to adjust them for inflation. And then these VSMLs are going to be so powerful and free.

It'll run on my watch. It'll run on my watch, Jason. Just right on my wrist watch. It's a joke, but this is, I think, the new CEO of Apple. He's figured it out with, but let me, before we go down, because I don't want to be too technical. Down the rabbit hole. Okay.

So here's the problem. Okay. In every corporate, I have a lot of, of dude named Ben friends through the show, but some of them are actual friend friends. And, you know, they do IT, they do support, they even desktop support. And they are, they are at vomit scale of people coming up to them and saying, hey, can't I just throw this into fill in the blank, chat GPT, et cetera, et cetera. And how come my spreadsheet didn't output all the right numbers?

there is such a lack of knowledge about what these chatbots are versus what we're talking about right now. And add to that, this is the whole, it's so crazy what is happening where you've got the marketing of these money burning companies saying, oh, it's so dangerous we can't give it to you. We need regulation. It's so dangerous, which is clearly, you know, just to put a moat around their stuff. And now people are hating it. hate their stuff. It's like, I don't even see how this moves forward at this point, except with, you know, somehow everything's just got to burn down to the ground because it's not, it's not working. It's absolutely not working except for burning up money. And then,

on top of all that, and maybe you can confirm this is true, that in Vidiya, are they really buying Hugging Face? Yeah, they're buying Hugging Face. They also do the deal with- they have the full stack so they don't need anybody else. Correct. Here's what's going to happen. So I can give you the inside baseball. Sam Altman did this deal with Nvidia, right? And Nvidia was going to put...

Do you know him personally? He seems like a real... Like a real sleaze ball. Okay. I know Sam for when he was doing his first startup looped, which was like a mobile local thing. Yeah. Which was kind of like force where you check into places.

And then I knew him because we were both scouts for the same venture capital from Sequoia Capital. And I've known him for a long time. He is the dealmaker's deal maker. He's the only person who ever screwed Elon Musk. He's the only person who ever got over on him by getting him to donate $50 million. Well, there's some women who would disagree with you. But okay.

Well, I mean, I digress. Everybody goes through divorces. I think he probably, I think I got, well, yeah, I mean, you may have cost him a little bit more with Sam Waltman divorce. Sam is just like a Bill Gates or a Zuckerberg type entrepreneur. In other words, he has no problem screwing a partner to get ahead. That's what they've done. And the great irony of open source is when open source came out in the early 2000s started to hit enterprises, everybody said, well, the enterprises will never trust this because it's not controlled by anybody and it's not supported. And then magically, people emerge who would support it for you, host it for you,

and they would report enterprises would say, actually we don't want to be locked into Oracle. We don't want to be locked into Microsoft. We want to have some freedom here. So that's actually a better way to do it, is to use an open source and pair it with some support. They also bought this pool side. They aqua hired them at Nvidia.

What they're going to do, you're exactly correct. They're going to put a bunch of Nvidia, compute on a rack. They're going to roll it into your facility and say, here's your AI open source, pick whichever platform you want. We've got Nemotron. We've got this one. We got that one. Nemotron. That's what they call theirs. Yeah, I know. I know. But they're going all in on it. And now they're going to compete with those two frontier models. The truth is, you use it for software, and it's pretty dynamite for building software and building systems.

And so people just... Only if you know what the outcome is supposed to be. Yes, you'll have to be a systems thinker. Yeah, you do. Now, let me just show you what our – and get back to some media deconstruction here. Yes, of course. To our politicians, this is Ed Markey.

I think this was a primary debate. This is the level that our politicians are speaking at. Senator Markey, do you personally use AI platforms like Claude or Chat GPT in your work? I use whatever is inside of my iPhone. my iPad, whatever comes up. Whatever's my iPhone? I don't know what companies my iPad might be using.

But if it does, in fact, provide me with the information, which I haven't... He doesn't even know how to answer the question. No, he doesn't. I'm asking the device to give to it. Do you even the headlights? And, of course, I'm using it.

The headlights. Congressman Malden. Yes, I use AI. We're very careful about how to use it, to use it honestly. to use it effectively. But these are tools that can help. But they're also tools that need protections. And with all due respect, Senator, if you don't even know what you're using on your phone or your iPad, like this is why we need a new generation of leaders to regulate these technologies, to make sure that they are safe. They are safe for families.

That's what I'm saying. Here we go. Here comes the regulation. Oh, yeah. Well, listen. It doesn't make any difference. It's called the Internet. It doesn't make any difference. It doesn't make any difference. We need to build safe gods around it. Safe gods. Safe guards. And that is what my legislation is accomplishing. And again, on this issue, like so many others,

Congressman Moulton is making up his record and his concerns right now. I have been the leader on these issues, especially on AI, because we absolutely cannot have a 21st century without the safeguards, which families need. This is a... Families, get children next. Get ready. Ding, ding, ding.

My agenda, and I, I, in no way, will allow Congress for Melton to denigrate the work that I have done for year after year to protect kids to protect families in our country. Oh, ding, ding the bell. How are we going to effectively regulate and keep big tech accountable if you can't even tell the difference between big tech programs, which do take very different approaches to privacy and safety? This guy doesn't know what he's talking about either. make for the bad ones are out of business, and the good ones are actually creating jobs and making cures for cancer and other things for our future.

Cures for cancer. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. You are tired at them. Where's the ding, ding, ding, bell? And where's the jobs, karma? For Hillary. Jobs, jobs, jobs. And think of the children. Yeah, I know. Think of the children. I mean, this is where they go.

Politicians, if they are scared by something that's empowering people to be free, whether it's you being able to control your ranch, your water, your energy, you know, Second Amendment, whatever it is here in Texas, you know, that we protect for your personal freedoms and not being relying on the government, they're going to try to take it from it. They try to take the internet from you, your anonymity, your privacy. They're going to try to take AI away from you. And they're going to try to ban you from having your own AI on your laptop because it's disruptive and it's scary to them. They want to control it. And anytime the government controls something, the price goes up. It sucks. And it sucks. And it sucks. And it's, it sucks. And it sucks. And it. It sucks. They kill it. That's what they want to do with the internet. The internet was super disruptive because they couldn't control it. And they want us to put our, you know, social security numbers in now.

They want to protect the children. Okay, reasonable. We want to protect kids. We get it. But they want the anonymous internet and you to be tracked on the internet. And they want to track and control AI. And the truth is, AI is a tool. And it makes you superhuman.

if you know how to use it. You become, you can get three, four, five, six times as much work done if you know how to use these tools. I agree. I agree. It's as simple as that. My clips are cut by my model. 100%. Today, when I was doing the three by three.

Now, it took you forever. It was very slow. I was very disappointed. Okay. Well, it's my first time. Come on. Did I do as well as JCD naming them at least? I had a naming convention.

I've heard you. Admonage JCP for a decade. I do miss that. I do miss his miss feelings. It was ever good. I just picked the second one. It's the second one. Come on.

Adam. See? Everybody wants to know. Just to be a little lighthearted. I'm very serious. Everybody wants to know. Where did the impersonation of John C. DeVore came from.

It came from Edward G. Robinson. I used to watch these like old films play the clips. Is that true? Is that true? That's where I, well, I was like, John is a crumagin. Who else is a cremigion? Who's always talking like, gosh, I'm pissed off for whatever reason about everything. And so I just was like, oh, yeah, Edward G. Robinson was the guy who played all the gangsters,

little Caesar, all these kind of movies. And he would be the guy who would say as a gangster, Shee, Shee? And when I started doing that on, this week in tech, Leo Lepport would just be like, oh, please don't torture John. And I would be sometimes on with him. And then I was just lean into it. And it pissed John off. Let me listen.

Let me listen. Which one you want me to play? Which one? Play the Edward G. Robinson C. from Little Caesar. See? His name correctly. Yes, yes.

Yeah, see? You ought to have better sense in the hire a couple of outside Eaps. She? Especially bad shots. Come on, what is he? Let's have it. Arney? No.

You're through. You're through. You're hired a much, say? Now you're through. If you ain't out of town by... I really didn't know it came from there. You won't never leave it except the fine box. And John, to his credit, immediately said,

it's a terrible imitation, Jay, Kyle, because what you're doing is Edward G. Roberts, and I can see through it. I had seen Chappelle in his early years. It all just, like, hit me. Like, John is like some gangster who just breaks people's balls about their latest product, tells them it's terrible.

And you pointed this out when you went to his, his funeral or memorial, whatever it was, that he kind of pushed the world to get better. And so I had seen Chappelle, I was just thinking back to it, like, when I would do this week in tech. And I was always like, wow, man, someday I'm going to be on this week in tech with, you know, you or Dvorak or whoever, or Leo. And I got to come on a couple times. But I had seen Chappelle doing a send-up to it. You can play this Chappelle clip of him doing it. Edward G. Robinson.

Sometimes I talk crazy just to make myself feel better. You do that? You start talking like crazy. Can you ever hear this voice? Man. That's how bad guys used to talk in the 40s. In the old days. See, I talk like that.

Not all the time, but if somebody put the pressure on me, fuck it, I got to cut loose. The police pull me over, I'll talk crazy. Son. Son. Do you know why we pulled you over? because I'm black, see? That's right.

That's a good. That was the... And then, Sean was brutal to me back. How do they know I don't know I don't talk like that every day? Stop talking like that. Stop talking like white cover. That's a good point. I would be doing it to him and then he would get me because at times maybe I have a little bit of a list.

You know, you've gotten rid of that. Okay, well. But in the early days, I was nervous on it. air and he would go yeah Jason's talking about she's going to be on just like this and he's going bald I'm like brother you're talking about me going bald John you've had a coma

over since 1987 come on it's so great but when you guys were breaking my chops on the show I always loved it I always loved I hit the rewind let me hear it one more time I just you know I miss JCD he was so great such a classic you and me both brother yeah yeah let's talk about this because I think again the media

is so poorly informed and they're just lapping everything up the meta lawsuit which was settled here's a clip now 30 US states brought the case against meta and said that it had misled the public about the harms that

its platforms Instagram and Facebook posed to younger users we were only in week two of the trial when news of the settlement dropped on Wednesday and so meta has agreed with the states to pay up to $18 billion in damages. Now, what's really interesting about the case, though, is that META has said it will only pay 70% of that settlement. So that's $12.7 billion. Now, the remaining 30%,

$5.3 billion, they said they will only release it on the condition that its rivals YouTube and TikTok also make changes to their platforms. Now, META has said that some of the key changes that will be making include a two-hour daily use. usage limit, nighttime blocks, the ability to turn off auto-playing content, disabling extreme makeup filters, and this is all for users under the age of 18. But overall, the state attorney generals are calling this one of the largest consumer settlement cases in history, and so the impacts will be far-reaching. So this, what I think they're all missing, because, you know, they go through this list of concessions they're going to make for the children. This can only lead to

digital ID that you'll have to identify yourself to be on the platforms. And that's ultimately, I think, what all these guys love. They all want that. Not the tech companies, but the AGs and the politicians, they want to get rid of anonymity. Yes, because you can't criticize them or you can't leak documents about them and their crimes, etc. Online, and they would love, love to get rid of encryption. and they would love to get rid of anonymity. And they've done a great job of it already.

I mean, they can follow you around. You have to take really acute steps to maintain your privacy. It is still possible. But this is very reminiscent of what happened with the tobacco company. So two things can be true at the same time. The politicians really want to control social media because they don't want criticism. They want to track you down if you leak a document, etc. On the other side, Instagram knew for many years that this stuff was super addicting, that kids really shouldn't be on it.

They engineered it that way. Exactly. They literally, when I came into the industry and started investing, which was about 12 years ago, there was something called gamification. And all the video game people had studied levels. Like, you know, when you're in martial arts, you go up levels. If you're in Scientology, they have levels. You pay, you get to the next level, yada, yada. and all those devices and mechanisms, my friend who created FarmVell, Mark Pinkus, had started all those.

Wait, that's the guy who later did, is Pinterest his as well? No, he didn't do Pinterest. No, Pinkett. Pinkett did Zinga, which was FarmVell, Zinga, which was named after his dog, who had a wonderful dog named Zinga. He used to play with my dog. Anyway, a good friend of mine, he studied this stuff over and over again. Then Zuckerberg studied it, and they just said, how do you get it? people addicted. Well, very easy. You know, if you see the number of likes and I have more likes than you and we're both 12 year old girls, you know, it's just going to turn into a little bit of a slot machine, a race. So they knew that and they didn't do anything about it. And then they knew, hey, we got to get them addicted from somewhere between 10 years old and 14 years old. And if we do that, we'll have them for life. They'll never give up their account. So then it became a generational chase to do that. And then you have

things happen like adults who are addicted to these social networks. So, you know, two things true at the same time. The government wants to get everybody to sign up, use their social security number, and then track you and track everything you do and who do you follow. And then at the same time, these guys knew, I think I'd call it with their hand in the cookie jar. Here's the, here's the good news for them. It's like 1% of, it's like 10% of their cash on hand. And it's like 1% of their market capital less.

So this is like, some judge is like, oh, my God, I've said, 16 billion is the biggest thing ever. And it's like, bro, are you paying attention to how much this company's worth? This is like giving U.R.I a $2 speeding ticket for going 150 miles an hour. Meanwhile, the true addicts are adults. Yes. The adults are, for sure, for sure. That's, I mean, it is like, it is like, I'm not.

I am not. I am not. How did you get off? Did you, were you addicted for a bit? Never. Never. Never. Now I can slip into it.

I can slip into it. Let's say it doesn't happen often, but I'll just sit on the couch and I go through my, here's how it happens. I only look at X for my mentions because that's where people tag me. There's a story or something going on. Increasingly, they're just like, you suck. You know, there's a lot of that.

You know, just stop the show. It's not the same. Yes. This guy was, you know, whatever. But then there'll be a very, video and I'll watch the video and I'm looking at the video and then the video's over and it goes to the next video. Yep. And then I'm like, how much time do I have? And, you know, and then before I know it, it's 15 minutes and then I realize, okay, now I see what's happening because now I'm, you know, into sovereign citizens

refusing to show their driver's license. Yes. And new mosques being put up in Hill Country. All of that. But, you know, but so I recognize that. But no, I am not. not, but I see everybody around me is. Every, everybody. And it is, it is the, the poorest way to get information.

The worst. Every link to a story is a paywall. So you only read the headline in one paragraph. Worst people, it gets in my crawl. Fake accounts. Well, okay,

but when people screenshot something and like, what good is that to me? I can't even go and find the story if I wanted to. So everything, and then it's extrapolations of people giving you their version of it. You know, there's no real research being done. It's junk. It's just junk, which I think has always been. Slop.

Well, there's a lot of, there's a lot of slop now. But I think that was always kind of the success of what John and I were doing is, you know, we would dive into it. Now, not all the time because it's hard to get that nugget and figure it out. but I would go and read the documents, man. I know their agenda. I know exactly what the globalists are doing. Yeah. You know, so, and it's often quite, for instance, okay, so this beef thing has a couple of things.

And I'm like, because, you know, I talk to Texas Slim and I've been looking at cattle and ranching and beef for going on five years. And so the first thing is the president comes out and says, okay, 300,000 metric tons, metric tons. Well, that would be U.S. tons, with metric tons of ground beef. Now, ground beef from where? Well, thank you. First of all, that would be, if you cut up every piece of the cow, that would be 1.2 million cows. Okay, it's a lot of cows. This is a controversial move, but despite all of that outrage from Republicans and ranchers

across the country, the president is moving forward with this, suspending tariffs on ground beef imports for about 90 days until after the midterm elections. This is all in an effort to lower prices for the American family, but of course this set off a firestorm of criticism, especially in the Republican Party. So Senator John Barrasso, the number two Republican in the Senate said Americans want U.S. beef on the table, not foreign imports. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas called this action ill-advised. Others in very competitive Senate races like Congresswoman Ashley Henson say that this is just a flat-out bad idea.

Now, notably, the administration is not saying where this beef is coming from. The president did not identify any countries in his proclamation. And notably the Agriculture Secretary, whose job it is to oversee farming and food safety, said that she wasn't privy to that information. Yeah, because there is no deal. There's no contract. but the cattle futures tanked right away. Perfect.

So the president got, all midterms. Affordability. Oh, okay. It's cheaper now. And of course, immediately you see the memes. It's going to be poisoned beef from Argentina.

And just as a small aside, if people really understood, our great American beef is certainly from Texas. It goes to New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Beijing.

I mean, Maybe Japan is good. It goes to the Michelin Star restaurants. And we are already getting crap that's driven up from Argentina, from South America. And by the time it gets to, in Texas, HeB, it says USDA certified prime American beef. Because it's been in the country. It's processed here. So then, and I think this was, I think this was a setup.

Glenn Beck with the president and because I know a lot I mean I buy our we buy our beef from K&C cattle hometown meats that have a small owner operated processing plant on premises that's the way to do it

that's the way to do it. And and you know they they they actually process beef for you know for for ranchers you know San Antonio all all over the place but this is this is how it went down with with glenbeck and the president and i'm telling you this was a

midterm sciop setup and i think beck was in on it and the prices are coming down very rapidly and now beef is starting to come down you know the meats the beef is starting to come down yeah because i told everybody to import it but prices have come down very specific very very um very i have to tell i have to tell you mr president i didn't plan on talking about this and we bull crap i didn't plan on talking about this i didn't plan on talking about this i didn't plan on this spot. All of a sudden it just came up. You get into it a later date, but please, please, when it comes to beef,

please look at the cartel that is the meat processing cartel. Now, this is absolutely true, but it's not a monopoly. It's a duopoly. And they are not owned by Americans. And the ranchers have become very complacent.

It's like, you know, I've just, I got these cows. I throw in 14, $1,100 worth of honey nut Cheerios. I take it to the processor. You know, they give me $1,800, $2,000, rinse and repeat. But, okay, that is definitely a cartel, and they're no good, and they suck,

and that should be broken up. And this is the setup for that and more. I mean, that is, I run a ranch, so I know what it's like, and I'm telling you. Meaning the Glenn Beck ghost puts the Cheerios in, takes it, takes it to JBS or whatever, and it hasn't processed. It is processing plants.

There's four of them, and I think two of them are not even American. It's bad. And they're, I believe they're colluding. And the ranchers and the farmers haven't done it because they're smart as well. I'm surprised, because that's been going on a long time, Glenn, long before I got here.

Help us. Help us. It's so, we can't, we can't butcher with all of the federal regulations. It is really hard. I want to see. You know, if there's something you can do to help. Glenn, is that just a, Just a question of regulation.

Do you think? A lot of it is. These guys don't even know. A lot of it is. The inspections are insane. No, okay. So, first of all, it's not federal. It's state.

And Texas is quite good about that. Yeah. And, you know, it depends on how many people you have in your operation. And you can sell it locally. Depending on your situation, you may not be able to sell the cross state lines. You may not be able to sell it to H. But you can sell it from your. ranch, but it gets even funnier.

So they make the regulations so tough that, so could you do it? If you didn't have those regulations, could you do it on your ranch? Yes. And is that the way to do it? Or do you think you need some pretty strong regulations? Break the back, break the back of those processing plants. There's people that want to build processing plants everywhere. The regulations are killing us, just killing us.

saying with less regulation, you think that the ranchers and farmers would do a very good job of processing the beef? Yes. Wow. Yes. I know. I know. I've been hearing about this problem for 20 years I've been hearing about this problem. Okay.

So this, to me, this was a bit of a setup. It's like, oh, yeah, you know, Mr. President. So the processing plant is multiple problems. One is, and there's all kinds of ways around it. You can sell a half a cow to someone. That's what we do. Quarter cow, half a cow is the way to go. Because you own it at that point.

You own half of the cow. Someone else owns the other half of the cow. The problem is that the ranchers, they are lazy. I'm sorry. A lot of, not the beefmaps.com guys. You know, they, and there are small independent processing plants. So part one is they just want to make, money. They're not really into regenerative. They're not caring about it as much as they used to.

The older generation is, you know, passes it on. The kids like, well, I might as well sell this for development or something else. They're not really into it. And the biggest problem is people who know how to cut. There is no, there are no people who know how to cut anymore. The butchers. Butchers is, it's a specialty. You've got. to get apprenticeship. You know, it's, that's where the stimulus is needed. And yes, absolutely. This is cartel with the beef processors.

Totally. But there's a lot of complicit nature. And then we get the next day, or two days later, Glenn Beck, you know, like spikes the ball. On Wednesday, the president was on. It's Friday today. So two days ago, president is on. And I bring up, you know, farmers and ranchers. And I'm like, you know, let your people go.

let my people go. Let them process their own food. Now, every rancher is allowed to process their own food. I'm just being technical about what he's saying, but you can process your cows on your ranch for yourself and for your family. That's always, always been allowed. No standards, but this is a monopoly. And if we can cut...

It's not a monopoly. There's four of them, J.B. Or three, no, four, JBS, Tyson, Cargill, and National Beef. The regulations on these processing plants, not to a dangerous level, but to be able to get people to be able to process their own food in their own communities and their own states. It's already possible. It's a state's issue. The only thing that is out there is the Prime Act, which has been on the books and never really made it anywhere. And maybe that was part of the point. And that, believe it or not, is a Thomas Massey bill that has just not moved anywhere. So it's a multi-factor thing.

But again, I think this is a midterm marketing message that is happening here. This is all about the inflation issue. You know, Trump made a small set of promises. And if you just go through it, just dispassionately, he closed the border. Great. 100, A-plus. you know, the war, a lot of people felt, you know, that was a mistake, you know, and you just go through these issues. One of them was, hey, I'm going to get the prices down immediately.

And as a function of starting the war, gas prices go up. Gas prices are the input to a lot of other prices. So of course, everything goes up. And we've been at three or four percent. It's kind of as low as like 2.8, 2.9. We still have the lowest unemployment of our lifetime. So you and I, we've never been sitting here with four or five percent unemployment. And the participation rate in the country is about 62%. We've never had more people participating on a percentage basis. It's like 68 was the peak, I think, under Clinton. And that's because, you know, it's a multi-factor kind of thing, because many people are so affluent, they don't have to work or people in the family are affluent, so they don't, they won't get off the bench and go work.

Put it all aside. This has been a pretty great time for employment, even though everybody always complains about how much money they make. It's actually never been this good in our lifetime in terms of the number of the unemployment rate. Put that aside for a second. That's at Jason on X, everybody. It's at Jason on X. You can tell him that he's full of crap and that you are struggling. No, no.

But the struggle is not in the jobs available. It's the affordability. So the rate, so correct, if your salary has not increased, let's say, 5% a year, 6% a year, you're not keeping up with inflation because it was, you know, 6, 7, 8% of times under Biden. and it's been 3%. The problem, what people don't realize is 3% doesn't sound like a big number,

but you do 3% for 10 years in a row. This is a super compounding impact. Now, everything is 50%, 75% more. And beef is one of those things. But the hack is super easy. And once you start living on a ranch and you live in Texas, you kind of break out of the matrix

that you live in in New York, that you live in San Francisco or L.A. And I can order like Wagu, like the best. I have this one rancher. I'll give her a shout at Olivia at Long Hill Wagu. It's just her ranch is about an hour and a half south of my ranch. And you can buy, I'm talking about Wagu. This is, I can get it for like $20 a pound if I buy a quarter cow, maybe a little less, $15 a pound if I buy half cow. And this is what you need to do. Now, if you're buying just straight up American cattle, you're down to, I think, $6 to $10, depending on where you go. And the processing, from what I understand, is like a buck a pound.

It's like 150 bucks or 300 bucks to do a cow. And there are smaller places to do that. And this is the future of America is the job you mentioned, cutting up and butchering a cow, doing electrical work, plumbers. Generation Tool Belt is the greatest opportunity. Ooh, generation tool belt. I like that. That's good. Yeah.

This is, if you want to get a great job, if you get like a graduate degree, and whatever studies and bullshit. Sorry, I'm not what I'm sorry for cursing. BS, you know, graduate degree and studies of, you know, whatever indigenous people, yada, yada, you're going to be 250K in debt and your first job's going to be 40K, 50K. If you're lucky. You get, if you're lucky.

You're generation tool belt. You're an electrician. You're making six figures. In five or 10 years, you're a plumber. Right now. You got your own business. You're making $250. Right now in Texas, I think they're,

looking for 70,000 construction workers, welders, cable pullers, electricians, to build these stupid data centers. Like, this is a fantastic transfer of wealth from Black Rock, from Goldman Sachs. Take the money. Take the money. I mean, yes, huge sci-op took place. Huge sci-op.

Absolutely. Kids got screwed. That was the... You know what? People are rightly sick of... 20, 30 years of the government employees not working for them, working for themselves. Absolutely true. Yeah.

And so once you break out of the matrix and you realize going to college is not a guarantee for a great life, it's indentured servitude. You now work for a student loan. These kids who I meet, you can go to state school for like 10K a year in Texas. If you go to Austin, you know, and you go to UT, you're paying like... I got to tell you, Jason. I know how to weld. Like, if this podcasting thing doesn't work...

You're going to be making a buck 50 an hour. I'm going to go to Pennsylvania and help weld be some big, beautiful ships. I mean, that... It's amazing what is out there. You know, if you ever watch Mike Rowe with his dirty jobs. I mean, he's going everywhere telling people this continue. Did you go to college? I went to Fordham University at Lincoln Center at night, and it was, I think, 9 to 11k a year.

Yeah. So it was about 40K, but I was, I took me five years. I worked jobs doing internet and whatever during that time. So when I graduated, I think I had maybe nine or $10,000 in debt from student Pell loans or whatever. And then I got a job working for Sony doing IT. and I was getting paid 60 or 70k a year, I just paid it off in one year. I paid off my debt in one year.

And at the time, my total college tuition of 50K was 10K less than my salary on graduation. Today, if you get that same, let's say you get a 50K job and you're stuck 250 in loans, $100,000 in loans, that's 2 to 5X. You cannot get out from under.

That's the trap. It's a lie. And that's why you have these kids who are so enamored with socialism because they screwed them. They said, get your graduate degree. And they went 100K in debt, 200KK. That's why they love Mondami.

They're like, yeah, free stuff. Cancel my loans. I got screwed. Yeah. Support your local rancher. That's my main. Just literally buy a half cow, buy a quarter cow,

get the freezer. I have a whole freezer. I mean, that's all we eat is we ate beef. We eat beef and a potato. Love it. Rice and sauce. salad and, you know, our grocery bill is significantly lower than anybody else I know. Yeah, you got to lay out 400 bucks, you know, up front.

Up front. But at six weeks, it's six weeks. And you got your ground beef in there, you know, it's your, you get the pecania. Oh, pecania. And then there's the, that's the good one. The hump, the hump roast. You get the hump roast. Oh, so nice.

So nice. Well, here's Kevin Warsh, our new Fed chair, and he's laying it on the line over there in Jackson Hole, and no one cares what they're doing. But he did his walk. Now, there is one signal nobody can miss. Can't miss it. The responsibility for 65 months of sustained elevated inflation sits squarely with the central bank, and that's where it belongs. So here is my standard. We must be confident that underlying inflation is moving to our objectives.

objective, clearly and at sufficient speed. Otherwise, we have work to do. That's our job. That's our mandate. And that's our charge to keep. Yeah. What does he say? Just a bunch of words.

I don't think any of this matters anymore. I mean, we're still printing money. I mean, that's what we're. What do you wear you on Bitcoin? Are you a bit coiner? You know, when it was like $100, $200, $200, I had some Bitcoin. Oh, $100. $100,200, $200.

I had them on this week in startups in like 2009, 2010. I bought some. I got hacked. I lost it. At the same time, like six months later, my wife was like, what's got your Bitcoin? I'm like, I got hacked. She's like, I'm going to buy some.

And she goes and buys a bunch for $100. And then she's like, can I buy more? I want to buy $200. I'm like, she wants to buy more. Boom. She buys it. We still have it. Millions of dollars.

My wife made this incredible trade. So I'm super happy about it. I think the game of Bitcoin has kind of come to an end. it's not going to have like this crazy super appreciation. I think partly because there's a guy buying like 10% of it, which is kind of like, it's not punk rock if somebody corners the market on it and owns 10 or 20% of it like Michael Saylor's doing.

Yeah, it's just kind of like he kind of like has made himself the main character and the Bitcoin story and it's supposed to be like a punk rock. Nobody's in charge. I find him very annoying. But nobody is. But I do believe nobody's in charge. And my, you know,

the thing that John and I would always, I mean, I would always pester him with it. Because we were, people were sending us Bitcoin left and right. You didn't sell it, did you? No, hold on a second. We agreed. It was John's idea, but I agreed.

No, this is just beanie babies. This is beanie babies for the internet. And, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, I, no, this is a great story. Keep half. I had 65 Bitcoin. And I remember 2015, hey, it's 900 bucks. I'm going to sell that stuff. There you go.

That was my, that's my. That's my initial Bitcoin story. Then we got back in when it was under $3,000. And I've just been buying a little bit every single. Tina's the one with the, she's got the proper IRA and retirement accounts and all that stuff. I'm rooting for Tina. Everybody donate $33, 330. By the way, I'm a knight.

I never claimed my knighthood. Well, this is no good. You got to select a night. A night of the hill country. You got to select a name and you got to send in a note, notes at no, Agendashow.net. And I'll be happy to knight you. I didn't know that it was an honor system. I thought like you guys were keeping track of stuff. Apparently it's an honor system. I got to tell you that I'm actually a knight. But

putting it aside, there is a lesson, which is, as we say in the business, let your winners ride. It's okay to pair your position along the way, but you always want to let the winner ride until it doesn't ride because I do want to say. Sometimes things just race. Cotton gin, you're right. On the show. When Silk Road came out, as an experiment, I bought a dime bag of weed for, I think, three Bitcoin. Oh, no. And it came right to the door in the mailbox. I'm like, this is amazing.

What a great country we live in. Be careful with that, man. That guy went to jail for a couple of years. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you go. Not legal in Texas. We haven't heard from the years.

UN Secretary General recently, Guateras. Guateras. And he's trying to make his mark on getting everybody afraid. And he has a new way of pronouncing the most scary disease in the planet. Outbreak is the fastest growing Ebola epidemic on record. Ebola is the fastest growing Ebola outbreak ever. It's like Trump, only he can't speak. Well, that's the same, the same, I guess.

It is growing faster and wider than the response to contain it. but it can be stopped. We know how to contain Ebola, or to interrupt transmission. Does this guy not listen to anything on the news? Why is he saying Ebola? Am I missing something here? Is it really supposed to be?

Maybe from now when we just pronounce it Ebola. I mean, okay, Ebola, it is. I got one. I'm going to wrap it up with you, brother, because you've been very generous with your time. one question. Of course. Go ahead.

Do you know what's going on with Japan and, you know, this, this, you know, Besson's been real kind of sketchy about it. Like, I know what's going on and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the carry trade and all this stuff. Sure. What is, is that happening or is that ending or what's going on with that? Because that seems to be where everyone's making money and dumb podcasters aren't. Okay. If you have the ability to borrow a lot of money, your bank, your hedge fund, whatever,

you got to be in that kind of realm. You can get a $100 million loan from Japan for 1%. And then you can invest it in the United States, in our treasuries, or short-term banks for 4% or 5%, take the spread. And that's called the Japan carry trade. Japan is actually, I think, going to come roaring back. They have a real entrepreneurial spirit. I go there twice a year.

And what do you do when you go there? What are you doing? Well, two things. One thing is I go skiing in Hokkaido, which is the north part. Mount Fuji. It's in the foot of Mount Fuji, but it is known for the deepest, like, softest powder in the world. It's unbelievable. And then I go and eat food and I do something I call Founder University there, which is I meet 30 founders.

And for 10 weeks, we help them grow their company, which is like my day job is investing in 100 companies a year. Putting all that aside, they are really. figuring out immigration in a very intelligent fashion. They just said, everybody wants to live there. It's the safest place in the world. The quality of life is unbelievable, but they have some common sense principles. One of them is you can't create your like little Tokyo, your little Baghdad, your little Paris inside of Japan. You can't create your own neighborhood. You have to live in one of the existing neighborhoods. And now you have to be fluent in Japanese to come there. and so since so many people want to go there,

if you want to have permanent residence, not if you want to go there on vacation or for six months as a digital nomad. And everybody wants to go there, they're hiring, you know, because they need some level of immigration because they're negative population growth. They've no kids.

They're getting old over there. It's an incredibly rich country because they have so much money, so much discipline. Everybody saves their money. And then they have population decline. And so they actually figure it out like a really common sense way to handle this immigration issue that the Nordics like Finland let

people in and then they're like, okay, we have 17 different languages being spoken. None of these people will learn Finnish or whatever the language is there. I'm assuming it's finished. And we don't have teachers. So how are we going to educate these people? Like, okay, they're not going to get educated. They're going to live in their own slums, their own area, and then we're going to have civil unrest. If you want to go to a country, I think it's like one of the most, and people might say I'm being racist or something. You're not guaranteed to go to any country you want in the world. And what a great carrot to put out there.

The people who learn to speak the language fluently before they get here, get precedents. They get to go to the front of the line. That's actually a really good idea because your chances of assimilating into the culture go up 100x if you can speak the language. Well, we'd have to kick out half of our country because people who were born here can't even speak the language. Well played. Well played.

well, I mean, I think now by shutting the border, that was like such an easy thing to do, that I think it's kind of starting to lower the heat on this discussion that we could maybe start to have a reasonable discussion of what to do with the 20 million people who are here. And now if they're criminals, they've got to go. But if they've been here for 20 years, we've got to find a solution. Because it's so, it costs us $50,000 to $100,000 to deport somebody. but if you catch me a little Yanopolis at the airport, it costs you very little. That costs about 2K.

So that's the better way to do it. I'm in agreement. I mean, I've helped several people become legal. It costs about $5,000. I've done it three times in my life, helped someone. But they had been here for a very long time, you know, back in the day when companies would go to the border and say, hey, you want to work? And they'd come on in. And it was just like, you know,

I'm in total agreement. The problem is that, and we see it in Fredericksburg all the time, you know, the cleaning ladies, the construction guys, the guys working in the wineries, they're gone. And many of them have been here for a long, long time. But it's quotas. You know, there's quotas for ICE and DHS. And I'm in agreement with you that. I wish we had a way for that. But it seems like that, you know, that's past, that decision.

is, you know, that's gone. Well, they, it's, Trump has stopped, he's, he's taken the foot off the pedal because I think it was so unpopular, you know, and it was causing too much unrest. But it's pretty simple, you know, if you put economics to any of these problems,

you can typically find a good solution. So if people have to pay their back taxes or they had to do some sort of settlement to become legal, then, again, the front of the line would be filled with successful people saying, you know what, I'll pay $3,000 in back taxes or $6,000 in back taxes to become a legal citizen.

and that would, I think, again, if you don't, I have great sympathy for somebody who doesn't have a job and then sees, you know, a hundred people working in their community off the books, not paying taxes, getting cash under the table. It's got to be incredibly frustrating, you know. Well, and guess what? If you go down the socialist route, which I grew up with here in the Netherlands, what you see is, oh, I hurt my back at work. I'm going to be out for six months. My company will have to pay seven. many percent of my salary and I'm just going to work hauling bricks on the side and the neighbors see it. They see you. Oh,

double down? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And the neighbors see it. Then the neighbors get mad. Then you get like neighborhood fights over this stuff. And other people go, well, crap, if he's doing it, I'm going to do it too. And it's bad here. It is really, really bad.

They got a lot of problems. I think when you steal from the, if you steal from the government and this kid, Nick Shirley, you guys, I think I've talked about it a bit. You know, he just walks up and he gets, somebody gives him a list like, hey, I think this is fraud and he like uncovers fraud all the time. It's not that difficult to find it. And so if it's not that difficult to find it, you have to ask yourself like Occam's Razor, like, why didn't we find it? It's obviously people who are in on it in our government. If you're caught stealing from the government, I think they should double the penalty because you're literally stealing from everybody.

Hang him. Hang him. Well, I don't know what they're on TV. Yeah, give me the rights. Give me the rights. Dana Brinetti and I will produce it. Yes. We will do. He has no job, right?

He just made all this money and then went to a ranch and he doesn't work anymore. He's got to get a job. He called me and he texted me. He said, hey, man, I want to do the show with you. I'm like, okay. All right. Line up, everybody. He only does things he wants to work on.

I think the lot, I'm not exactly sure, but I think the last thing did was Grand Turismo. Oh, yeah. Which was, which was, I thought it was a pretty fun movie. And it was all paid for by Sony. So he just doesn't want to happen. He says, he left at the top, man. He was very smart. There's something to say about that.

Bought a lot of land. You know, got a good looking wife. She's a lawyer. Nice. They live out on the ranch. And he used to call John all the time. He loved John. Yeah.

He loved John. What did these guys talk about? What's, oh, hey, Dana. What's going on in Hollywood? See? Some of that. When am I going to get a talk show in Hollywood? Who's, I don't know.

What am I going to get a cameo, a bit part? And who's really a... Nah, can you get me a walk on? I need a walk on. Who's really a pedophile out there? I want to be on Law & Order. Can you make me a Sherrill killer? See?

I want to be a shiro killer on Law & Order. That's what it is. Ladies and gentlemen, he is the master of ceremonies of the all-in podcast. Is that once or twice a week, Jason? Just once a week. Every Friday, we drop it at the same time you do in Thursday. Oh, you drop it. You'd drop it.

You'd drop it every Friday. Come up, Adam, Adam, yeah. morning. From the hill of country. Hey, man. I really appreciate it. It was a lot of fun to catch up. Fun to catch up.

Oh, yes. And by the way, the story in the Hollywood reporter that said that Dana Brunetti was John's nephew was clearly Brunetti called the guy at Hollywood Reporter. The Hollywood reporter didn't want to put it in, didn't want to do the O bit. And he said, but he's my uncle. I'm his nephew. And then they put it in. Oh my God.

So they lied about his age. These guys are media hacking. They get great. Literally, there's no fact checking. I mean, the Dunning Kruger effect or whatever that is, it's just so perfect because every time I read a story about something I know about, I'm like, this is complete utter nonsense. It's like 20% true. Gilman amnesia, baby.

Gilman amnesia, man. It's just nuts. All right. Listen, everybody. Get your donations out. Donate to the show, support. You know, John's family. Very important.

33, 33, 88, 88, whatever you got. Just do something. You ungrate, no, you guys, be grateful for the show. You got to keep it going. Keep the show going. Get your PayPal. That's what I did. Anytime I win a big poker game, I would win these poker games.

And then I'd be like, you know what I appreciate what you guys are doing? I pop out my PayPal. I zip a little PayPal to you guys. Easy, pizzy. I love you, brother. Thank you so much. I love it too, bro. Let's get out, I'll come out to Frasersburg.

Maybe I can get in on this chess action with you, or we can have a stake or something. Anytime you want. Monday's Monday morning. Is that when the chess is going on, an old man chess? That's when chess is taking place. I want to get in on an old man chess. That sounds like a party to me.

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was episode 1898, titled Goofy Foot. And Parker Polly, who is a Black Knight, I did a very interesting, don't tread on me with the tires. Actually, I got a, let me see, I had a note from, let's see, where is my note? Got a note from one of our producers about this. Let me see.

Tim, no, was it Tim? No, Alex, that's right, Alex. He was sales manager for a global tire manufacturer for over a decade in the commercial vehicle sector. We're closely with colleagues in the passenger and light truck. So as California goes, so does the rest of the country, and their regulations push their way into the rest of the U.S. Replacement tires are superior to the tires that come on your new vehicles.

Uh-huh. I think basically what he's saying here is that the Obama-era greenhouse gas rules put rolling resistant targets on original equipment. tires and degraded them for over decade. And I think we're probably going the same way with our replacement tires. You're probably, instead of getting 50 to 70,000 miles,

you get 30 to 40,000. So, good work, everybody. Good work, California. That's part of your affordability agenda. Screwing everybody, because that's the way California goes. So thank you, Parker Pauley, for that. And let me see, there were some other, I think there were some

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I liked Nessworks. I use the bat signal with your piece of art. Let me see. Was there anything else? A couple of tires thing. Yeah, some cows. Man, this is really it. Parker Polly really had the best one.

Much appreciate it. man. Now I want to thank people $50 and above who supported us with their treasure. As always, we have the 33 33 33, 33 order of the ant, which will continue for a while. Also, Thursday is going to be my birthday. I don't know if we're going to do anything special for that. I'm not lying about my age. I'll be 62. We always thank our executive and associate executive producers at the top of the show. These are people who are fortunate enough to support us with $200 or more. gives you the title of Associate Executive Producer. We will read your note in full.

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Stuart and Jessica from Asheville, North Carolina. And I want to thank everyone who was email me and said, hey, you know, I feel bad. I never told John how much I appreciate him. So now they're telling me, which makes me feel like, how long will I last? And would you look at this? Jessica Green, right underneath Stewart comes in with $1,000 from Asheville, North Carolina. And this is a donation for her knighthood, but she means her damehood. She'll be Dame Dula at your cervix. Now that's a great dame. name. Sir Salahouser, Melbourne, Florida, $1,000. He misses JCD. He says, I can hear him now in heaven talking with God and saying either, it's a scam or, oh, that's bullcrap. Maybe, maybe not, Sir Salahouser.

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A baronet, yes, Eric Wilco. A baronet, correct. I usually find myself humming, I've got ants when dealing with them at my house. I will miss hearing John, my condolences and continued prayers for Adam, the Devorak clan, and the No Agenda family. Adam, there's a great amateur sumo tournament coming up in November near you, the Consultants Cup.

I competed in it twice and had a great time. Justin and his club, Dark Circle Sumo, put on a great tournament. More details at dark circle sumo.com. And this is the sixth annual Consultants Cup Sumo Tournament. Love the show. Thank you for your courage, Sir Eric Wilka. Dr. Sir, One Awesome, Jason, PhD, 34375. That's an order of the Ant Plus Fees.

and we thank you very much. Tom Babin, Bebin, Baybin, San Diego, California, 3.4375, and Order of the Ann Plus fees. Taking JCD's advice, I put my phone in a drawer to focus on family while on a July, August vacation in Europe. So I didn't learn the tragic news until coming back a couple weeks ago. I've been profoundly sad ever since. But I finally pulled it together and did what John would have wanted me to do, donate and become a member of the Order of the Ant. So many memories from PC mag, ZDTV, Twit, No Agenda, D.H. Unplugged. Thanks for helping me maintain sanity while raising two young human resources

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of your dear friend yourself and your strength and dedication have not gone on notice. And congratulations I'm becoming a grandfather. What a beautiful blessing and bright spot in the midst of such a difficult season. Indeed, a roller coaster. With love and gratitude, Katie and Will. Thank you, Katie and Will. Sir Joe Fo, 3333, ITM, seems to be a season of change for me. The show and the world, listening since 2016, happy to finally welcome Jason today.

Yes, it was fun to have them on. I chipped in 33 value for value to him on X money, which I think he gives away. Adam, grateful to have recently found we get to do this as well. All the best. Sure, Joefo. Peter Bickford, 33333. And there's no note, so he will receive a double-up karma. You've got.

Double-up. Carmel. And there is the Indianapolis Noah Genentee meetup, Greenwood, Indiana, 33. It's a switcheroo. Raymond Lee, he won the raffle. and he will receive the order of the ant. He says, hi, Noah Gen the nation. I'm traveling across the country with my smoking hot wife and two toddling human resources.

We made the Indy Noagena meetup a stop along our way. They were very welcoming, and we all had a great time. Definitely recommend. Connection is indeed protection. Also, I'm now a knight. Happy to be in such esteemed company. Night name Sir Raymond. You got it, Sir Raymond.

And then we have the drunken minstrel himself, Sir Chris Wilson, coming in with 266 and 70 cents. And he says in the morning, Adam, an invited guest. We all remember how John hated long donation letters, so please find an attached copy of War and Peace in his honor. Greetings from the Antipodes. Or, as you may also know, the former prison colony of His Majesty, King Chucky 3.0, bless his reptilian heart, the authoritarian hellscape known as Australia.

Pronounced Straya, or in a more formal setting, Straya, cunt. You got me, Chris. We are the only country in the Commonwealth or common debt to have by ministerial edict and without judicial review prescribed a registered political party as a banned hate group, threatened their members with 10 to 13 years in prison and prison and force its leader to seek leave from the High Court of Australia to be allowed to fundraise and launch a legal appeal against the prescription. Because technically, under the new hate speech laws, filing a legal challenge and donating or collected to pay for said legal challenge is providing material support and promotion of a prescribed. hate group, a crime that attracts 10 to 13 years in prison. Yeah. Still, given that level of outright suppression of political expression, I think that Kindenavia in the north of you is faring somewhat worse. It's getting cold there. Everyone seems to be a bit more gay. Enough complaining.

On behalf of the city, No agenda, meetup mob, please accept our humble donation of $388 and $33.3.3.2 plus fees. We wish it was more. Okay, so that, I have to mark that. So that will be a, that'll be an order of the ant then, I guess. I'm not sure who to send it to, because we do, well, at least it'll be executive producer for sure. We wish it was more, but if you... Oops. Wish it was more, but if you exchange it for Bitcoin by next Wednesday, it will probably

be more. Adam, our collective heart goes out to you, Tina, all the Devorax, Andrew Horowitz, Dana, all who get more nation. The universe lost the legend, but we still have something more valuable, even more valuable than Bitcoin. We have a network of high trust, critical thinkers in real life who understand the value for value exchange. This we get to keep. Seems to be like a band that has been a band that has lost a member, no matter what you do,

that specific magic that unique chemistry goes with them. But you don't stop when there's new music to be made. You get together and you let the chemistry brew. You find the new magic. And with the right people, music just happens. It's different, but it's music from people you love. As Sir Felix said, we must secure the existence of our podcast for a few. future Gipmon Nation children.

My Mossad handler, Brian of London, spotted what I did there and has approved the use of the number 1533 as a signal to other producers that we were here for the long haul. Adam, thank you. Thank you. You're doing God's work. A deduce for everyone at the meeting. You've been deduced. Thank you for your courage. Sir Chris Wilson

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I also want to plug an upcoming Chicago Land meetup on putting together at Hailstorm Brewing in Tinley Park on September 12th. I urge all those in Gitmo Nation who have never been to a meetup to either start one or go to one. They're a blast. And everyone, everybody wants a good cup of coffee at a great price.

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The Indy meetup, last week was a big one. I finally get to claim damehood. You've always referred to me as such. Yes, I have because you've done real work on all those meatup reports. You have another one today. Sorry, I didn't make it before the loss of the great JCD. It makes the moment bittersweet as always. Shout out to my genius firstborn in New York by way of Austin, Sir Ryan, and to the indie crew, the best punch of rabbit hole diggers this side of the Mississippi. Can I please? Oh, boogity, boogity, boogity. Yeah, I should have gotten you a boogiety, boom on a second. Where am I? Bugitty.

Why is the boogity not coming up? Bugety. Come on. Okay. Yes. Boogity, boogity. Sorry about that. Along with the chilled bottle of Elijah Craig,

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It is the best podcast in the universe. It is value for value, and you certainly brought it today. Thank you. No agenda meetups. Oh, man. We have so many meetup reports today. It's just outrageous. So happy to see them come in. Let's first listen to the meetup from Indy.

Hi, this is Sir Mark. And this is Dame Maria from our Indianapolis meetups with our lovely No Agenda family, remembering John today. John, you're absolutely right about NCIS. They need new writers. Rest in peace. really love you. Hi, this is Dame Cindy of the Tito's at the best meetup. In Indy, we want to

send our condolences to the JCD family and the Adam Curry family. We appreciate everything you've done for us over the years. Hey, as Gary, RIP, JCD. Sir Benny, rest and peace, John, later. This is Emily, the shufflecrats spook, missing John. I remember him back in the days of Buzz Out Loud when he would post with Tom Merritt and Molly Wood. I had literally no idea what they were talking about, but I loved his crankiness. RIP, JCD. Hello, this is Bruceky, Indianapolis, RIP, Dvorak, you'll be sorely missed. Hey, it's Annette in Millville, still drying out from the big direct show. We miss you, John.

In the morning, Nata from Indianapolis, and thank you for your courage, John, and the Dvorak family. This is Alicia from Indianapolis. Miss you, John. Rest in peace. This is Joshua from Indianapolis. RIP, JCD, you were the original book of knowledge. This is Sir Jake. Glad I finally made a meetup, but missing JCD.

Tom G. Not from Carmel. not fisting any more nuts. Adam, thanks for the Men's Alliance tip, love and life. This is Syrup of the Maple at the Indy meetup, and we're all sharing our favorite John moments. We will miss you, John. In the morning, Dame Trinity, visiting from Fort Wayne,

having a great time remembering JCD in the morning. In the morning, Adam and crew, Sir PBR Street Gang. John, see you on the other side. Sir Ohio Globe visiting the indie crew, RIP, JCD in the morning. This is Tony from Louisville, Kentucky. John, you're my dad, and I love you, and I miss you. In the morning, this is Sir Raymond. Thank you for sharing your love of podcasting and meeting up.

It's Nick from Indianapolis. Rest in peace, John. You taught us the importance of cynicism, not pessimism. Thanks for everything. This is Kate Piper from Blind Albury. Took care of the No Agenda crew today, and they were lovely. Wait, what's that sound out here? No, no way.

Thank you guys. Hey, let's go to down south here in the Netherlands to Maastricht. Hey, Adam. Hey, Nogunjanjanian Nation. This is Averton and Maastricht here. The first Maastricht meetup. It's only two of us, but hey, you know, we got to talk about a lot of shit. And we got to drink to JCD, who did the most suckiest exit strategy ever.

Good fun here. Good company. and hopefully next time we'll be more busy. Yeah, this is Baron Illuminati. I have a great fun, just the two of us, but nonetheless. See you around. All right. And the waitress.

The waitress. All right. I guess the waitress didn't want to talk. And now we have, just as long as his donation note, we have the Mieter report from Sydney. Australia. Caution, not entirely safe for work. In the morning, Gidmonaution, this is Sir Chris, the drunkard minstrel.

And I'm here with everybody, because I'm too fucking drunk to remember their names. ITM, Gidno Nation. This is Steve. A lot of good people around here today. Great to see them. RIP Buzzkill. We live in our country. ruled by

the first half not ruled by trees no we can edit of this ROPJCD Say it again I'm not buying it You're not buying it

No it doesn't matter I'm not buying it It's a scam It's a scam This is Alex Just drinking beers at the cash only bar Not by design But not a problem

And I'll call out Patrick As a douchebag He'll know Dushbag Dushbag In the morning Rest and peace JCD

ITM This is custom Carl here With the No Agenda Meetup In Marrickville and Sydney And yeah Great bunch of blokes Having some beers

And RIP JCD In the morning RIP JCD From Mark in Sydney This is my first meetup You want to say anything

I'm gonna edit this afterwards Anyway I don't know the ritual So how do I open what I'm saying? I'm getting hit in the mouth. Because that's what it is. You get hit in the mouth. This is you're hitting the mouth.

Anyone who says we're sitting having beers is lying because we're overtaxed, we're overworked and no one can truly afford beers, but what a wonderful group of people. You can also say a shout out to Brian. And a shout out to Brian of London from Daniel, hashtag at symbol vote luco. Good to speak to all of you, whoever's listening. Mr. Phil. I'm sorry John Skarn and Adam, I love your work. And I need to say that before you go.

Keep going. He's not going that quickly. In the morning, we've all been drinking a lot, and we've all been getting connections for our erections. I mean protections. Protections for our erections. Protections for our erections. Thank you, Chris.

In the morning. No homo. In the morning, no homo. My name is Sir Chris And I'm an alcoholic And I'll end up this I know it doesn't sound so fucking drunk In the morning

In the morning One A two A one two three In the morning Get Mo Nation We are all charged up to be Human resources

And services In our lands and our ships at sea From east to west down under to the lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted slaves Hear a good monation song In the ball Hey guys, it's Lucy the Balmaid here We've had this group of fellas in tonight

and they are officially banned from the premises. Have a good night, everybody. There you go. Okay, yes, perfect. Thank you, boys. Thank you very much. We're almost done with our meetup reports. Here's the Jingle Pot Ranch Meetup from yesterday.

This is Sir Tree Daddy here hosting the Jingle Pot Ranch backyard meetup. I'm going to pass the phone around because there's people who have things to say. In the morning, this is Sir Say It Wrong of Neh Neh Nehemi-O. I'm going to miss the way that John butchered the name of my town every single time. When Adam says it properly, it just doesn't quite hit the same. But it did warm my heart when

Larry and Darren both butchered it back to back in the same reading. I did look high and low for Nanaimo bars for dessert, but all I could find in them was hookers and bikers. In the morning from Nanaimo, OBC. Yes.

And in the morning to you and our final meetup report is the one I was looking forward to from Zurich, Switzerland. In the morning from Zurich, Switzerland at the JCD, rest in peace, meetup report. We had lots of fun. We talked about politics and how grateful we are to no agenda for keeping us sane with all the craziness that's going around in the world. I'm Sir Luca, I'm going to pass the phone to the other participants of the meeting. I'm Sir Lucas, so I came down here from Munich, and I'm here to remember JCD and spend some time with some really good people. Hello, I'm Phil the pool water guy and Dinn, or Viden, thank you Adam. I'm the ham guy, and we had human resources, and thank you for the...

courage. And you're more than welcome. Thank you very much for sending in all those meter reports. There is a meetup taking place as we speak today in Chester County. It's the Chester County Community Meetup, Liberty Union Bar and Grill in Chester Springs, Pennsylvania. You probably have to hurry up, though. Next show day, that'll be my birthday, September 3rd. Raleigh's regularly scheduled September meetup in Suarez, 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. And on the way, in the month of September, on the 6th, Tapiolla, Michigan, Fort Mills, South Carolina, and Medford Lakes, New Jersey, on the 10th, Brooklyn, New York, Boise, Idaho on the 12th, Scottsdale, Arizona on the 15th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 17th, Tbilisi, Georgia.

Got to collect those meetup reports. That'll be on the 18th. King George, Virginia, on the 19th, along with Petaluma, California, and Wilmington, California. All of that happening in the month of September. Go to no agenda meetups.com. Very simple. you look on the calendar, you find something near you. You will want to go to one of these at least once in your life. And I'm pretty sure long after no agenda is gone, you will continue to meet these people because this connection gives you protection for the rest of your life.

The people you meet at a no agenda meetup will be your first responders in any emergency. I guarantee it. No agenda meetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. That's right. Drink it on hell's lame. Everybody feels the same.

It's like a party. That's right, everybody. It is just like a party. Stick around. If you're in the troll room, give me some title ideas. I do not know what's coming up next on No Agenda Stream.

That information has not been shared with me for today, but guaranteed something is coming up because it's 24-7, noagendatstream.com. And as always, get your modern podcast app so that you will always be alerted when we go live or any of the other podcasts go live. So I'll be back with No Agenda on Thursday

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Noagendatonations.com. Value for value, keep the show going, everybody. Thank you so much for your contributions today. And before I leave you, I got one more Just Baker, end of show mix, just because he's really knocking it out of the park. And I'll see you on Thursday.

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