No Agenda - 1903 "Non-Practicing"

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

No Agenda Episode 1903 - "Non-Practicing" Non-Practicing Executive Producers: Baron Tommyhawk of the Heartland Anonymous Randy Filkins Adam Banks Jamie Forsythe Maygan Cline Thomas Blowers Tim Erlandsen Dr. Don & Dame Audra Sir nussbaum Sir Justin Karsk of Jobber's Canyon Sir Luca Dame Becky — Becky Chinni, Baronetess of the Great Katy Prairie Sir 10CFR50B, Baronet of the Palouse Matthew Ferrell Associate Executive Producers: John Whiddon Maggie Carty (switcheroo from Rob the Constitutional Lawyer) Rob the Constitutional Lawyer Manuka Gold Sclazin' Hot Sauce Calapooia Meetup Robert Anderson Linda Lupatkin Christopher Choate Scottie K Knights and Dames: Maggie Carty > Dame Maggie, Secret Dame of the Lake Title Changes: Sir 10CFR50B > Baronet of the Palouse (was Baronet of the Willamette Valley) Order of the Ant: Sir Mike (switcheroo from Dame Becky) Randy Filkins Jamie Forsythe Sir nussbaum Sir Justin Karsk of Jobber's Canyon Sir 10CFR50B, Baronet of the Palouse End of Show Mixes: Jus Baker (Curry & Brunetti) Jus Baker (Connection is Protection 2.0) Jus Baker (Who's Freight) Art By: Blue Acorn Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Last Modified 09/13/2026 17:24:40 by Freedom Controller  

Dude, that was amazing. You should do every pitch drunk. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, September 13th, 2026. This is your award-winning Kimmer Nation Media Assassination Episode 1903. This is No Agenda. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. We have a special edition of the No Agenda Show lined up for you.

In one of the many Korean Friends episode, we have the one and only. I can't believe he's here. Dana Brunetti, who will be joining us for the show. And as you know, we'd like to start every single guest co-ho show off with the song. Thank you very much, Just Baker. He'll be here in just two minutes. Sunday signal Adam Curry brought Dana Brunetti.

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don't we? That was great. No, it wasn't all that great, but it was okay. I mean, it's AI. You know, it's not like guns and roses drop by to do a song for you, but, hey, Dana, how you doing, man? I'm just here at the ranch doing the podcast with you. I have, honestly, I have butterflies in my stomach.

This is strange coming from a man who has been at the cusp of all kinds of premieres. And excitement, will something work? Will it not work? But it's good. I think it's a healthy butterflies. Yeah, it's been years since I've been in that arena, though. So this is my first time actually doing anything publicly, like a podcast or interview or anything like that. Yeah.

And thank you very much. Appreciate it. By the way, in the morning to you. I haven't really said it in the morning, in the morning. So I think it would be good if you just tell because you are, you know, people are going, oh, Hollywood's on. No, this is anti-this is anti-Hollywood. I tried to get into the troll room, but it says I need, I don't know, something. No, you're in.

No, I think you're in now. Oh, am I? I tried to write something and I was going to. But why would you even want to be in the troll room? I mean, this is, this is not healthy. It's not healthy to do the show and be in the, in the troll room. Hey, that is one thing I have learned trying to get ready for this show. I have a whole new respect for what you and John do and did on the show.

Oh, wait, oh, wait, oh, wait, oh, wait. Are you thinking you should have donated more? Is that what you're thinking? Because now you see how much work it is? No. Now you see how much work it is? I donated so much behind the scenes on all those dinners with John. Yeah, so Devorak. Yeah, exactly.

What did I get out of it? Nothing. Nothing. Well, you live in a wrong state for a different state. I mean, not the wrong state, but a different state. So too far away to come to those dinners. So could you just, I mean, we've talked about you a lot on the show. We love the fact that you're a producer of the show.

How did you even find no agenda? Let's just start there and work backwards. Okay. So I think it actually was one of my first notes that I sent in that I kind of said it. but I moved, I left Hollywood or L.A. in 2019, but it was a process that I started around 2018 when I started to see not only L.A. start to change, but really Hollywood. And I'm like, okay, I'm kind of at the top of my game and what better time to go out than at the top. And so I started to plan my exit and knowing, as I said, that things were changing, not having any idea how much and how badly they were going to change both in L.A. and in the industry itself. And I started looking at places to move to. And I was looking in Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona. And my business manager said, hey, you're still going to get hit by taxes from California no matter where you go. And a broker I was using at the time said, you know, have you ever considered Northern California?

Because the taxes are only 13%. Well, no, basically, I wasn't escaping the taxes, as it was the point no matter what state I went to because it's your tax on where it originate. So the profit participation in things, checks that I get still would originate from here. So anyways, I moved to an area that is not as lunar, you. you know, not as full of lunatics and crazies. And it's actually a very conservative area, one of the more conservative areas of California.

There's actually a lot of conservative areas in California and that aren't as crazy as like L.A. or the Bay Area. And so anyways, I was here. I found this property. It was 40 acres of land. Oh, with a mule. 40 acres of the mule. And it had two wells.

and a power pole, and that was it. There was nothing ever built here. There was an old crappy barn that was falling down. You couldn't even walk through the property. And it was supposed to be a two-year project. And so I was starting to do that on the weekends. I had somebody working here. And then when L.A. shut down permanently,

and I guess it was March for COVID, I bought an airstream and moved on to the land. And I never left. And as I was here clearing the land, literally riding around a tractor with headphones, listening to audio books and looking for new things to listen to, I remembered John doing cranky geeks. And I was like, I wonder whatever happened with that. So I started searching on John Devorak.

And it came up with no agenda. And I saw your name. And I was like, Adam Curry. What is John and Adam Curry doing together? What's up with that? That's odd. and so I'm like, let me give it a listen. And I thought it was going to be some liberal, you know, leading show.

And I'm like, oh, my God, this is so refreshing. This is amazing. Oh, you caught us right at COVID time. That's what happened. Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah.

And so I started listening then and you misgendered me the first time I sent in a note. And- how Hollywood I am. I'm like, Dana, what is she? doing talking to the show. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. And then the rest of its history. John reached out to me shortly after that and we became really good friends and surprisingly. So as my wife said, she didn't understand why the two of us got along and we would talk so much and why we always, you know, would have dinner together and became really good friends and talked a lot. I typically

would take a gummy in the evening and either call John or he would. call me and sometimes I had no idea what I, uh, what I'd even say to me, but I guess it was enough to, uh, keep the banter going. I'll tell you, for 15 years, I was high doing the show with John. So I know exactly what you're talking about. That was the best way to do it to talk with John. Absolutely. Uh, he loved it. So that, so this is really phenomenal because you left your Hollywood career. I'd say at the top of your game. I'm going to give you the Wikipedia list of the filmography, and you can tell me if it's wrong or not, starting in 2002. Uncle Frank, Beyond the Sea, the Sasquatch Gang, I don't know what that is.

It's actually a really, let me tell you real quick and interrupt for a second. The Sasquatch Gang was with the guys, the other creators of Napoleon Dynamite. And so it's very much in that same vein. It was a small independent film we made for about $2 million. Oh, wow. Okay. Minnie's first time, which sounds like a prelude to 50 shades of gray. Well, sort of.

And that resulted in the very public battle I had with Alec Baldwin on Twitter. Oh, wow. I forgot about that. Yeah, he claimed that he didn't know that Nikki Reid was under the age of

16 in his memoirs. And so I called him out on Twitter because he basically blamed it on the producers as though we had one over on him. Wait a minute. Did you just say, I called him out on Twitter? Okay. All right. Oh, it was called Twitter then.

All right, we move on. 21, which I don't know what 21 was. I don't know what that was. That's about the MIT card counters. Oh, yeah, Columbus Day. I think I've seen Columbus Day. It wasn't a Valcomber movie. It wasn't great.

Hackers wanted. Now, go ahead. Well, because what people don't know about you is you're a nerd. You're very similar to me where you know just enough to be. when it comes to technology, I think. Yeah, very similar to you just without the hair. Exactly. Go look at his photo, everybody.

Hackers wanted, I can give you, that was released. I didn't want that to be released, and it was released online. It was about, it started off to be about hackers and ended up focusing on Adrian Lamo. I don't know if you remember him. I know him. But he was, and there's actually a weird, that. film ultimately led to Bradley Manning, at least in my theory, Bradley Manning being arrested. Huh.

You know, and what was Bradley Manning? You mean Chelsea Manning? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So when he was still in Iraq or Afghanistan, wherever it was, he watched that documentary online through one of the leaks and contacted Adrian. And Adrian, because he felt like Adrian was a sympathetic soul. Oh, I remember this now. And would, you know, listen to him.

And obviously, Adrian then went and flipped him. And that, prior to that was why I didn't want the movie release because Adrian was a very good social engineer and manipulator. And he's dead now. But he manipulated two or three different directors I had on the film trying to make it and was turning it and swaying them to paint him in a certain light, which that certain light is what made Bradley Manning feel like that he could confide in him. So now you produce these movies, right?

So what does that mean? Does that mean that you get the most money of all? Usually it means you get the least money of all unless it hits. because a producer of a film or a TV show is the one who usually is the first one, who's like the champion of a project that's trying to put it all together. It's like a project manager. You know, a script is like a blueprint. And you're trying to get people attached to it as far as like a director or talent,

trying to get it financed either at a studio or independently. So you're kind of running around. So this is where you go to the studio and say, look, I have this director attached to it. Yeah, I have Alec Baldwin attached to it. That was you? Yeah. Okay, cool.

And you're basically a sales person at that point. Yeah. At that point until you actually start. You're a sales guy with every aspect. You're a sales guy trying to get the director to buy into it. You're a sales guy trying to get the actors or the writer to write the idea if it's like a book or just an idea. And then a sales guy trying to get the studio or the financier to buy it and pay for it. So tell me how the.

social network came together. I'm going to skip a few here, but the social network, of course, that was a huge movie. So that stemmed from 21. Ben Mesrick wrote the book, Bringing Down the House, not the Queen Latifah movie, but the book called Bringing Down the House that we then turned into the movie 21. And the movie was, number one, the first two weekends in a row. And I went to Ben, I was like, what else do you have? I'd sold all of his books and included a couple proposals of books that he was writing. Because, you know, in Hollywood, you're only as hot as your last project. And so I'm like, we're hot now. What do you got? And he had told me about, he goes, I had this guy who contacted me,

who there's another founder of Facebook, and I'm not really sure about it. And so I'm like Facebook. I'm like, we can't make a movie about Facebook. He's like, no, wait. He's like, you have to hear the story once he kind of got into it. And once he told me, I'm like, oh, that, that, that, that, That's good. And so we took it to Sony because that's where we had done 21. So I basically gave them the first look at, not that I had a first look deal. And they kind of went back and forth on it for about a week. And then I was like, okay, well, we're going to start going out to others with it. And I was at Robert Lucetti's house on a Sunday night drunk because we were drinking because, you know, partying of the celebration of being number one. second week in a row. And I got a message from the studio that they wanted to get on the phone with me and Ben Mesrick. This is Sunday night because they wanted to talk to us before we went out hard to the rest of the town with the proposal. So it was like a 20-page proposal for the accidental billionaires, what it ultimately became. And they, we didn't have an ending because

we didn't know how it ended. We hadn't gotten to Eduardo yet. And they were asking, us about the project, Ben was going through his usual pitch of the proposal, which I'd heard, you know, 50 times by that point. And when I called Ben to say, hey, the studio wants to get on, it was like 11 o'clock his time. And he was like, what is like, it's like 11 o'clock? He's like, well, what are we going to tell him? He's like, they had the proposal. We've already talked to him. I'm like, I don't know, just go through the same pitch and let's just, let's talk to him. So on with 203 of the executives at the studio, Ben was going through his pitch. And I told him at the start, oh, by the way, I'm drunk.

And Ben was like, oh, great. So we're going through the pitch, Ben is. And then he, like, stumbles and, like, loses his train of fault. And I guess it was in my drunken ambition. I just started blabbing. And to this day, I have no idea what I said. No recollection of what you said. No, of course not.

No idea what I said. It's always how the hits come together. I hate that. Oh, man. And they said, okay, great. We'll have business affairs call. you know, this week and we'll get it, you know, we'll get it papered. Hung up the phone called Ben Back.

He was like, dude, that was amazing. You should do every pitch drunk. So I just want to say one of my favorite scenes from that movie was James Taylor playing at MySpace, a MySpace party. Do you remember the scene? I don't think that's, yeah. No, I have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, I think there was, yes, James Taylor.

And there's like, fuck Facebook. That was in the social network. I'm getting old. I'm forgetting a lot. I'm not sure. Okay. I'm forgetting scenes from my movie. Dana is drunk right now, everybody.

I'm just going to move. We got to get to some news too because you did a lot of clips and you really prepared and I'm very excited to deconstruct the media with you because you know a lot about it. Just briefly, though, Captain Phillips was the Tom Hanks movie, which was also a huge success. I think that was, didn't it win an award? Did you win an Academy Award of the Golden Globe? I won a Golden Globe. Not for that for, I won that for a social network.

I've won quite a few. I've been nominated for pretty much everything. I was nominated for two Academy Awards. One was for Social Network and one was for Captain Phillips. There was a funny aspect with Captain Phillips where Bar-Cod, the main Somali, you know, the one that's on all the memes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. It was his first time acting, and he got nominated for an Oscar, and Tom Hanks didn't.

Isn't he Elon Omar's brother? No, I don't think so. But we found all of the Somalis in Minnesota. Of course. This was 20, whenever, 2012 or whatever, before we knew about everything we know about now. And I was like, where are we going to get these? And they're like in Minnesota, there's a huge population of Somali. It's the largest Somali population in the country.

So we did a casting call there. And I guess I wasn't there. It was a local casting director who did it. And I guess there was the whole building was like surrounded with people that had showed up to audition. And Barcaud, to his credit, got the other guys that were there before they went in. and said, hey, let's like go in together and do this. And that caught Paul Greengrass's eye on the tape that the four of them were working together. And then I'll give you a quick when they didn't know they got the gig.

None of them were actors. And we had them out at shutters in Santa Monica here at the beach. Oh, yeah, I know shutter. Sure. I've been there once. And Paul told them, they just thought they were meeting with the director. It was more part of the. the audition process. And we'd already made up our mind that these were going to be the guys.

And when Paul told them, they ran out and ran across the beach and jumped in the ocean. Okay. What everybody wants to know is Tom Hanks. Is he really creepy? Now, actually, Tom Hanks is one of the nicest guys I ever worked with. And it was just a really genuine, good guy. Was, was, did he change? I mean, what's up with the pictures of shoes? The shoes on the weird pictures. What's going on with him?

I don't know what, what pictures of shoes? Yeah, he would do pictures of single baby shoes and he had all kinds of weird pictures on his Instagram. This was all, and they went to, man, what did you listen to the show? And he and Rita went to Australia. And then we all believed they were part of the sciop for the vaccine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I actually emailed with him when he got that.

And I asked him if I could get his life rights to make the movie of him. And that I wanted Samuel Jackson to play him in the movie. Okay. So, all right. So a nice guy, not a way. How did he get, what happened? How did he get such a weird rap? I don't understand that.

Well, there's, and rightfully so in a lot of aspects. You know, a lot of people hate Hollywood and hate the. people mainly for the politics but also just their craziness and so some people i think get caught up into it and i think it has more to do with politics than anything um but yeah there's there's a lot of bad people in hollywood um from my personal opinion and i could be wrong i've been wrong about a lot of things um you know i really think he's a good guy by the way i stand corrected it was funny people where James Taylor said it was doing it. I'm sorry.

It should have been. It should have been. That was the scene you needed in the social network. I'm just saying. So you were giving me a critique, but you thought you were actually talking about a scene in my movie. Yes. I have some notes for you. All right.

Then, of course, this is what bought the farm for you. 50 shades of gray. 50 shades darker. 50 shades free. 50 shades. I'm rich. I mean, what a, what an amazing run you had with that. Where, just briefly, where did this idea even come from?

From the book, from the book, I presume. Well, yeah, the book was a huge success. And I was actually shooting Captain Phillips. And one of my executives called me and he said, hey, you know, this book, 50 Shades of Gray. And I was like, yeah. And he's like, well, the author lives in London. I was like, okay. He's like, well, you're in London.

And I was like, well, okay. And he's like, well, there's not a producer on the movie yet. And I said to him, I'm like, what about me and the movies I've made makes you think that I'm the producer for this? Because you hang out with creepy guys like, you know, like Tom Hanks and Kevin Stacey. You know, you're perfect for it. Well, it's not, I don't think this movie is made for them or those movies are made for them. But so we were shooting the interior of the lifeboat scenes. And Captain Phillips at an old tank factory outside of London.

And Mike DeLuca, who's now the head of Warner Brothers, was producing it with me, a really good friend of mine. And I was in the car heading to set when I was having this call. And he and I shared an office together. And I walked into our office outside the set there and said, hey, do you know this book, 50 Shades of Grey? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, have you read it?

He's like, of course I have. I'm a pervert. I was like, boom. Yes. I was like, do you think there's a movie in it? And he's like, yeah, I think there's a great movie in it. So I'm like, well, can you tell me what it is? And he was like, well, why?

And so I explained to him that there was this meeting trying to be set up between me and the author and here in London. And I said, do you want to come to the meeting with me? So he ultimately came to a meeting. It turned out it wasn't with the author, it was with her manager. And she basically told us that the producers had already been chosen. But do we want to consider some of these other books, some of her other clients had written?

Of course. So they're like, oh, we got the old bait and switch. Yeah. But by the end of the meeting, it seemed like that there was some possibility that we might be able to get our hat in a ring. And then when we were, were in Virginia Beach shooting the scenes with the Seals. We got the call that we were going to be the producers on. So we basically got selected. So it was a kind of a different type of scenario where

we weren't kind of shopping it around. We were selling ourselves to come on as the producers. So then just the final project I want to ask you about because I think you put streaming on the map. Actually, two series put streaming on the map when we were all binge watching like nut jobs. One was, what was the, it's escaping me now. The cooking meth. Breaking bad. Breaking bad.

Thank you. Cooking meth, breaking bad. That was on AMC. That didn't stream. Well, that's where we all binged it. Because I never, I never watched it. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, look at this. man, I can watch a thousand episodes one after another.

But what really broke big and I think put Netflix on the map is House of Cards. Yes. So House of Cards, that came about while I was shooting the social network. The scene when Eduardo shows up in the rain and there's the girls are smoking a bong and playing video games on a couch. In between setups at that house, it was a house out in the valley. me and Fincher, David Fincher, the director, were sitting on a couch and he knew I worked with Kevin and he said, hey, would he ever consider doing television? And what he didn't know, I'd actually had been talking to Kevin about doing television. And I said, yeah, why?

He's like, well, there's this pretty series called House of Cards about the House of Parliament. Right. And we're, I'm working with this guy who was Bo Willemann to adapt it for the U.S. And so that, that's how it originated. It took probably a year or probably two years. I remember there was another project that we had with Rod Lurie that we took out that ended up not selling. That was a really good project as well. And, but before we took it out, I told Finch, I go, hey, just so you know, there's this other

show so it's kind of a horse race and his response to such fensure it's a very very fensure his response was uh yeah ours is better and it's basically like yeah go ahead and do that but i know ours is better and it's going to be you know this is going to be the one he's going to want to do and he was right and it got taken out to to the town we had originally uh HBO was interested and we thought it was going to go to HBO and Fincher kept pushing them to do like six episodes rather than just a pilot. This was when everybody did pilots. Right. And so, which was a very inefficient method because you would, you chew the pilot. And then after production was done, everything get wrapped up, packed and stored away.

Everybody would leave. And then the studio would, or the networks would, you know, test it and give notes and do whatever. And then you come back if they picked it up from the pilot and start over again. And Fincher just wanted to go and do multiple episodes at a time. And HBO refused to do it. And they used the TV show Luck at the time as an example. Like we didn't even do this for, it was, I can't remember, there was some really big names that were involved,

Dustin Hoffman and a few others. And ironically, that show got canceled shortly after because they were killing horses. So we're like, okay, well, we'll do it the way they want to do it and the way that it was still getting done. And there was a like a throwaway meeting to Netflix and that I wasn't a part of or didn't go to, didn't even know about. And the idea was, well, because Reed Hastings had said on an earnings call a few months before that they had no intention of doing original content.

And so I guess the idea was, well, we'll see what happens if they make any kind of offer than that can be used to negotiate with others to try to get a better deal. And they bought it in a room and offered $100 million for two seasons. Holy moly. And I didn't know about it. Kevin didn't know about it. And it was on a Saturday. And Kevin had a house in Malibu.

And I went down to visit him. And he went out to get coffee. And when he came back, he's like, hey, Fincher just called. and he wants to speak to both of us. So, okay, this can't be good if we're getting a call from the director on Saturday. And when we're going to announce on Monday that we're doing this deal with another network, and he told us about this idea of with Netflix. And I'd already known, obviously, as you said,

I'm a big nerd and new streaming was definitely the way things were going and was a big proponent of it and had been pushing for it. and wanted to be like one of the first to do a movie that was released online. And Kevin had known that, and I'd talked about that a lot. And so Fincher told us that, hey, Netflix has this. And, to be clear, Kevin lived in London the majority of the time. And so his idea of what, he wasn't really aware of they were just starting the streaming aspect. And it was like a website.

You could only do it on a computer. And they had like, I think like 90 titles on it. This was before Quickser. Remember the whole Quixter debacle? Quickster? Yeah, that was a thing that Netflix tried to spend off. I completely failed and read Hastings ended up doing a public apology for it. I don't remember that.

But so it was early, early days. I remember Quibi. Quibi. I remember Quibi. Yeah, that was well after. That was a billion dollar disaster. Yeah. That was what's his face?

It was a Katzenberg. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, I pick up a phone. And this was, it was on a landline. And I was a sales service there at the beach is horrible. And I'm on one phone and Kevin's on another phone. And Fincher tells us this.

And he's like, so we're going to do the show on DVD. And I was like, yeah, Kevin, we're going to do it on DVD. Just say yes and I'll explain it to you after we hang up. Ah, okay. Yeah, Netflix DVD. Yeah, I got it. Okay. Yeah.

So that's, that's his whole idea of Netflix at the time. and I'm like, look, this is going to happen one way to other. It's either going to happen in five or ten years or we can be the ones to do it now. So everybody gives me credit for starting streaming and all that. It would have happened no matter what. And you're so humble. Ah, humble. I love it.

But yeah, it was what really put Netflix on the map. So just as a final Hollywood question, then I just want to get into the news with you. What is it like partying with Harvey Weinstein? Harvey and I, we had some public spats, and we didn't like each other. I did a movie called Fan Boys, which was about Star Wars fans, that he pretty much butchered and tried every week, whatever the hit movie was of comedy movies, he tried to inject something different into it and was just a whole mess. And I publicly went after him a couple of comedy movies.

couple times. On Twitter? On Twitter? Did you call them out on Twitter? Not on Twitter. On radio interviews. You can find them out there. And I will say this too.

With everything with, I feel like I was a complete idiot because when everything started coming out about Harvey, I had no idea. And I was like, I had no idea this guy was doing. I had so many interactions and meetings and dealt with him. And I didn't like the guy. We did not get along. I somehow either by my dislike of him, had blinders and I missed all of this, but I never heard anything, never saw anything of all that.

And I mean, I believe every bit of it. But I was, I was like, how could I have missed all that? I worked with the guy and it was incredible. But, yeah, that's never really. Never partied with him. Okay. I mean, he was at a lot of part. Here, I'll give you a quick Harvey story.

He cornered me once at the cat. me luncheon every year. Everybody's nominated for an Academy Award. They do a big luncheon. And so it's every who's who of Hollywood is there. And I was going back to the bathroom and coming out, he was standing by this pillar and he was on the phone. He was like, hey, Dana.

He's like, hey, I'm like, hey, Harvey, what's up? And he's like, hey, I just wanted to say to you, he goes, you got the best film this year. And it was a social network. I was like, oh, really? And this was, he had King's speech, which beat us for the awesome. Right, right, which was a good movie, too.

That was a good movie. It was a good movie. I don't think it was the Oscar winner, though. And. Well, what do you mean? You got a stuttering guy, you know, that always wins. It's like either your, you know, idiot savant, a stutterer, you know, that always wins. Yeah. Well, even Harvey said, well, he said, you got the best movie this year.

And then he called himself. He's like, well, one of the two. And I was like, all right, thanks, Harvey. I appreciate it. So you basically have been. a douche to Hollywood, you said you gave a big middle finger to Hollywood. Are they still calling you?

Do they still want you to do stuff? Not the people that can actually... Not the people with money. Not the people with power. Okay, got it. Yeah. So, two days ago... I'm...

I mean, you can tell. You know the way I think, and it's not accepted. You were no agenda producer. We know exactly how you think. Yeah, exactly. And that wasn't accepted when I left. And that was nothing compared to how it is now.

Right. I believe that. So two days ago, we had our annual television extravaganza moment where we remember 9-11, which is to me, it's always triggering to me, because I think of all the things that really happened. I think, you know, obviously 3,000 people died. You know, all of this is bad. But out of that came the Iraq War.

The Patriot Act was signed, you know, six weeks later, half the people never even read it. You know, weird things were going on. I remember within days, the thing was on CNN. There were these people yelling on the street and like, what is the, and I think CNN was, you know, like, well, there's some people here protestists who talked to them. And they were saying 9-11 was an inside job.

And that was pretty early on in my media deconstruction phase, just looking at all the odd things that took place. But I learned from you when we had dinner just before John's Memorial that you were in New York on 9-11, not far from the Twin Towers. Yeah, I was about two blocks away from, well, not about. I was two blocks away from building seven. My street ended at building seven, the one that fell at five. The one that fell because it was so sad about building one and two, like, oh, I think I'm going to collapse now.

Did you see it implode? No, so I was in my apartment. I was in my apartment building. It was 11-story building. I was on the 9th floor. I have incredible footage from a, I have. footage of it before the fire even started. But I was at my daughter's mother,

my girlfriend at the time, was in the bathroom blowdry in her hair. And the building shook and there was a huge boom. And I was like, what was that? And all my windows, they faced towards the east. And the towers were two blocks south of me. So I couldn't really see what was going on. But I saw a girl that I knew, this model, who lived in a building across from me.

I saw her come out on her deck and look towards the towers and just put her hands on her head. And so I'm like, okay, something happened. And I told Johanna, hey, I'm going to go up on the roof if I can see what happened. And the plane had just hit.

And as I was going out the door, there was a video camera that was there next to the door that I grabbed. And I started as I walked up the stairs the two flights to the 11th floor to the roof. And I started the camera rate as I was going out because I'm like, I have no idea what I'm going to see. And there was two building workers, two of the maintenance guys,

were on the roof and one other resident. And these guys were in shock. They were up there when this plane just barreled over them and crashed into the side of the building. Now, are you saw it? You saw a plane, an airplane. No. No, I saw the hole that the first one had left.

Didn't it look to you like Wiley Coyote the way the wings and everything were in the side of the building? Didn't it was, it was, I mean, it was crazy. The fire had, it was hard to comprehend. I remember the other tenant who was on the roof asking them because they were like, it was a plane. It was a big plane. And he was like an A6 galaxy or whatever. I know they fly around here every hour. You know, he thought it was because it looked like a small plane to me.

look like a small plane. And I remember there wasn't a cloud in the sky. And I'm like, what went so wrong that they, you know, how did they hit that? Right. I was using my camera, the lens had a really good lens on it to zoom into the hole to try to, you know, see what I can see or figure out. oh damn there's a fire starting um and so i filmed it for a bit i went back down into my apartment and i turned on the news it wasn't even on the news yet and then while i was down there calling a couple people and i remember when i was on the on the roof too going wow that's going to be

really interesting to watch them repair this because it's so high up and it's right there it's my view you know see it constantly and while i was in the apartment a second plane hit and that's when I knew we were under attack once I once I saw that on the news and it coming in so I told my girlfriend I was like, let's get the dog and get out of here. And she was opening

Isamiaki's like flagship store that day. It was during fashion week. And she was like, what about the store? We have the opening. I've been planning for weeks. I'm like, forget that. We're getting out of here. So you left the city? You got out of the city? Yeah, so we walked three blocks. So you and the

bin Laden's got out. That's amazing. it was pretty weird because there were so many people going that direction and we were going the other direction. And I remember when we went on the bridge outside, so I called my business manager who lived in upstate New York right outside the city. And I'm like, hey, can I head up there? He's like, he's like, you're going to be fine. I'm like, no, no, I want to get out of here. We're being attacked. And so I said that on the first plane and he was who I was on with when the second plane hit.

And then when he realized second plane hit, he was like, all right, yeah, go ahead, come on up. And they had closed the bridges. We were like one of the last to go over the bridge going out of the city and made it out before everything got shut down. So, of course, yesterday or two days ago, the memorial was politicized by the media and by our president, in fact, as well. This morning, President Trump at the ceremony of remembrance for the 184 who died at the penitapherson. when hijacked American Airlines flight 77 crashed there, put the current Iran war in the context of fighting global terrorism and one of its persistent state sponsors. The president, as if to prove that life goes on, we'll travel this weekend to Ireland for the Irish Gulf Open. That's where we find our Nancy Cordes on this day of reflection and realization that in the president's own words, Iran is now the third defined war to be waged in one

manner another in the shadow of 9-11. Nancy. Major, good to be with you. This is a duty that every president since George W. Bush has carried out repeatedly on the anniversary of 9-11, going to the various memorials to pay tribute to the people who died. And today, President Trump spoke at the Pentagon for just under 20 minutes. he by and large stuck to the script. He said that it's on days like 9-11 that we learn what a country is truly made of.

And he made the point that you just mentioned, tying his war with Iran to the larger war on terror that was waged after 9-11. Take a listen. We salute the service members working right now to ensure the world's number one sponsor of terror. the Islamic Republic of Iran will never ever have a nuclear weapon. The ultimate victory over the perpetrators will not be found on a foreign battlefield. It's right here in the hearts of families. This was the second year in a row that President Trump, a native New Yorker chose to, to commemorate this solemn day at the Pentagon and not at ground zero with the other living presidents.

I am just flabbergasted why our president makes this comparison because it is exactly because of the war on terror that we got into Iraq and later into Afghanistan. And he's helping people make that connection, which is probably one of the biggest reasons why people are mad at him. It's flabbergasting to me. Well, I think it's part of his way of justifying the war because it's going on longer than what he had hoped or planned. But I also, you know, I don't disagree. Iran is a bad place or bad regime. The country is not, the people aren't. But the regime that's there definitely wants to do harm to us and anyone associated with us.

Do you buy into the nuclear weapon thing? Because that was the other part of, you know, Colin Powell's holding up the little vial. like, oh, you know, this is, we got the yellow cake. They got weapons of mass destruction. I mean, I don't know if they had weapons of mass destruction, but they certainly were working on it. But how far long they were or weren't, you know, I don't know. The, I found this very interesting.

ABC aired a speech by one of the widows from the victims in the North Tower. Her name is Terry Strada. and she brought up something that has been a mark, a dark mark on our government since 9-11, 2001. And they aired it. I thought that was interesting. Twenty-five years of pent-up anger pierced the solemn recitation of names of 9-11 victims. And my husband, Tom Strata, you are missed more with each year that passes. But how can it be 25 years? And still, we have no justice for the role that Saudi Arabia played in your murder.

Just feet away from the vice president and four former presidents, Terry Strata, whose husband Tom was killed on the North Tower of the World Trade Center, chastised the American government for failing to act on claims the government of Saudi Arabia had some connection to the 9-11 plotters. Administration, after administration, including leaders in front of us here today, chose to protect the Saudis instead of standing with the 9-11 families. You know, it's like, okay, ABC, way to go. I didn't expect them to, I guess it was no way around it, but they even highlighted it. Did you see the woman standing next to her? No.

The woman next to her was clearly, like, uncomfortable. It reminded me of Kanye West and Mike Myers. Oh, George Bush hates black people. Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Well, the thing is, that was just one of the many things. that are so irritating about this.

Actually, I'm going to be talking about with Pastor Jimmy on Wednesday, and we get to do this because, you know, there's such an un-American response in a way. It seemed like we were very doing the right thing. You know, within three weeks, we were like, let's go get them towelheads, you know, with the French, you know, they wouldn't participate. And we had freedom fries.

And the whole thing was just, we were so manipulated during those days. But the thing about the Saudi Arabia, and of course, President Trump has made a lot of deals with Saudi Arabia. You know, there's, of course, there was a different king at the time. And, you know, who knows? It's not just Trump, though. Pretty much every president has made different deals with Saudi Arabia. But the Bush family had, you know, they had like family ties. You know, there was like 30 years of friendship.

So I went into our No Agenda archives and I pulled out to a couple of clips about the infamous 28 pages. You know about this? The 28 pages? 28 pages of a joint congressional inquiry into the 9-11 attacks were classified by the George W. Bush administration, which claimed they contained information that would hurt the war on terror. But some lawmakers argue the pages reveal little about national security and a great deal about the government of Saudi Arabia's role in the attacks. They say that the pages tell the story of Saudi officials meeting with and even funding two of the 9-11 hijackers when they first arrived in the U.S.

But only a handful of people have seen them, right? That's right. Right after 9-11, a very unusual congressional inquiry with both the House and the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman convened to find out what had happened. And they did quite a lot of research. This is before the 9-11 commission took effect. And they published their report in 2003,

and it was heavily redacted, but there was one entire section, 28 pages that was taken out entirely. And the Bush administration justified it on national security grounds. But congressman that I've spoken to have read those 28 pages say it has nothing at all to do with national security. That the Bush administration and the relationship with the Saudis is implicated. And they also admit that it has something to do with the two Saudi hijackers. And I've talked to, you know, I talked to the 9-11 commissioners.

and Governor Tom Kane, for instance, has, he's seen those 28 pages. He thinks they ought to be released. He thinks not just those 28 pages. He says this is just a small part of a much larger story. There is lots of information that that joint inquiry and the 9-11 commission turned up that still has been kept from the American people. For instance, there are interviews with President Bush, with former President Clinton, with Vice President Cheney.

still haven't been released. And I think after 13 years, the American people can afford to know the truth. Yeah, and those 28 pages were released. I think under one of the first things in President Trump's first administration, it was like, yeah, you know, okay, so the Saudis clearly were involved. They were financed. They released it on a Friday afternoon. You know, no one touched it?

And it would be so healing for the, I mean, you think COVID was bad? I mean, that was, you know, COVID was bad. But 9-11, man. And that really hurt our country. Just so much stuff that is just not explained properly. I agree. But do you think it would 25 years later? I mean, I feel like most people don't even think about it unless you were around at the time.

So, you know, people that are 25 years old have no idea about it. Yeah. Yes. But you and I still think about it. Maybe you don't think about it. But, you know, every year. Every year it comes back. I'm like, oh, man, they just lied.

It comes back. But like, look at everybody that's protesting with their, you know, Palestinian flags and going out. You know, they're a lot younger. They weren't here for 9-11 or they were, you know, 10 years old or whatever. Don't really, you know, a 10-year-old on 9-11 is 35 years old now. I'll play just a little bit of one more clip about this because it's Megan Kelly back when she did news. And it explains the thing that is most egregious about these 28 pages. Bob Graham is the former chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the former

co-chair of the bipartisan joint congressional inquiry into intelligence failures surrounding the 9-11 attacks. Great to see you, sir. Thank you for being with us here tonight. So you want these 28 pages released. You've seen them. What are you at liberty to tell us about them. Not much because I am still under a oath that I took not to disclose classified information, but it has been said publicly that this chapter primarily relates to who financed 9-11 and that it points a finger at Saudi Arabia. When you look at that statement that was in the 9-11 report, saying we found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization.

You could drive a truck through that sentence. There are a lot of holes in there, senior Saudi officials, which doesn't rule out non-senior Saudi officials or the government as something other than acting as an institution. And one of the things that makes this even more confusing is that the concept of sovereign immunity, that is that the king can do no...

I just love that where that was the statement. No senior Saudi officials were involved at all or anything like. And, you know, to this day, there's a large contingent that is still 100% convinced that Israel did it. So it is something that just lives on. And I just wish that, I mean, I know it's not going to happen. But it's, to me, it's not like Occam's Razor. You know, it's like there was no.

No. And as a pilot, I actually early on joined pilots for 9-11 Truth. Whatever flew into those buildings, it wasn't even well-trained commercial airline pilots. the maneuvers they made, you know, the flight data from the so-called plane that crashed into the Pentagon. I mean, even the data itself shows that

wherever that data came from, it was 300 feet above the Pentagon, so it didn't go into the Pentagon. I mean, it's all of this stuff. And what was it? I mean, where's the plane debris? Where's the luggage? Where's anything? Where's an engine?

Well, are you talking about the Pentagon or the World Trade Center? No, the Pentagon. Well, the World Trade Center, that was obviously true because we found the passport. I mean, you could not have, if someone came to you with that script, you would have laughed at him. You just asked where the engine was and I asked, you know, the reason I asked about the towers, because I was there, there was an engine that came through. You can actually see it on the video. Yeah, it's a very small engine. It's a very small engine.

It's not a small engine. It landed on Murray Street, a block away from my apartment. It was a jet engine. And that made it through. But if you've seen the planes that crash in the water, they just disintegrate. And they're tiny little pieces. So if you're crashing into a structure,

you're going to disintegrate into the structure as it collapses on it. So I just want to be, are you saying that? or do you think that it wasn't the planes that we thought that crashed into the Pentagon and the Trade Center or that there was different pilots? I'm not so sure it was the planes we were told they were. That's the main thing.

And I certainly weren't being flown by, they weren't being flown by pilots. It's just when they did the passport bit on the street, I was like, okay, sure. We got him. We got our man. Here's his passport. It fell on the street. Okay, but explain that to me a little bit. What do you mean? They found their passports.

That's, you think that that's... Bull crap. Why? Because we found almost nothing. Nothing. His passport, they miraculously made it out of this horrific crash and then landed on the street in New York. What's the same as when planes crash and they find, you know, the teddy bear or the kid's little shoe. some things do survive. I'm just going to push back going to.

I have a piece of paper from a couple pieces of paper that are burnt all around on their edges that were on my window sill when I was finally three months later allowed to get back into my apartment. How did those make it from the World Trade Center all the way over to my window sill? But was it a passport of one of the hijackers? No, it wasn't a past. It was actually from one of the pieces from Italian bank. And then there was also a piece of glass from Building 7. Well, that was all the financial stuff they had to get rid of in Building 7. That's why they had to pull that thing and crush everything because, you know, Rumsfeld had just said, well, we can't find $2.3 trillion.

Anyway, that's personal healing I have to do. You did a lot of work. You put together, I don't know, you must have 30 clips. So I just want you to let loose and tell me where you want to go, brother, because it looks. And you, and you really just. You titled them kind of, you obfuscated what's in them. So I'm, so I'm ready wherever you want to go. Well, I was trying to make it so you didn't really.

I thought the whole idea is that you didn't know what it was. No, I didn't listen to them. Yeah, of course. I got to tell you, I have a newfound respect. Again, I said this earlier. But while I was doing this, I felt like I needed to go out and, like, mow the lawn or do something. Because what you are is you're like a filter, you're the condom. to have to dive in and do it.

I just found myself getting so frustrated and irritated doing it, having to deal. It's like going into hell, just listening to these talking heads. And you just start to really see how they're really starting to spin things and how they manipulate things. It was really eye-opening to me. You build up this odd resistance.

This is what I found is I can completely ingest all of this stuff. And then I'll say to Tina, I said, oh, man, I got some great stuff for the shows. whoa, what do you have? I said, honestly, I don't remember because I park it. I immediately document it. I get a clip. I make the clips.

And then I put it aside. And just for the time for the show, because you're right. Otherwise, you get mad. I think that's the attraction of the show is people want to share that frustration. Well, that's what I realized is I had you guys to like, distill it all down for me. And as I said, you're like the condom. You protect me from having to go into this,

what I, you know, to get these clips and distill it down and bring all that to me. You guys are like my news source. I already see the art that Scaramanga is going to make. So thanks. Thanks for that visual. Uh-oh. The condom. All right.

So, I don't know. You want to. Wherever, wherever you want to go. Let's get the most obvious one out of the way. I have a bunch here for, and I didn't know anything about this. I didn't really care about it. My wife kept asking me about it if I've been paying attention to it. I really wasn't.

But it was the Lindsay Clancy trial. Oh, we can't get away from it. Yay. But let's start here. This started up first with priest. Hold on a second. Priest. Here we go.

Let me tell you, this Lindsay Clancy debacle, there is no universe that exists where a man would kill three of his children and be going to the courthouse, and hundreds of men would show up to rally behind him. That world doesn't exist. But somehow, there's women out there that think this is a good thing. So now we are promoting killing children outside the womb. Is this not crazy? This is crazy. Yes, I understand she was on all these drugs and all the other things. Seek help. You're a grown woman. this is a catastrophe that one that this thing happened at all and we should pray for her i think she has demons to be honest but these women that are behind her insanity is raining in many places

if you're dating a woman right now who is a supporter of this woman who killed her children cut bait and run for your life because one day you'll be having kids with her and she thinks this is okay i'm serious that's a big impediment for me in a marriage. You know, every single pastor that is on YouTube, I call them the YTPs, the YouTube pastors, had to weigh in on this. And they all had similar takes. And I'm like, you know, first of all, why?

Why is this even such a big news story? And why get that conversation? Why fan the flames or then your own church, your own congregation? because it's dividing men and women in a very, very destructive way. It's dividing some men and women, but I think most as that priest said that, you know, I think anybody that agrees with this woman or sides with her is a huge red flag. Probably, you know, the only thing I could think of is,

and I see the women talking about it, television and I wonder if they are not overmedicated, which I think a lot of women are. A lot of women are overmedicated. Well, yeah, particularly the groups that you saw that are rallying behind her, you can just look at them and see when we saw the jurors. It was like, yep, they look and sound exactly as I expected. But that leads to the next clip, Gail. Gail.

G-A-Y. Yeah, I got Gail. I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? 70-ish to 22.

And one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man? A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a person, a black man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. This is a, I'm glad you got this. Tina showed this to me. I'm like, because it's the expression of Gail King who's like,

her head implodes. She's like, what, what a black man didn't agree with every white woman in America? How can this be? This makes no sense. And of course, if you know black American men, they have their heads screwed on, right? Most of them. I'm going to get to that as well. I got some clips for that. Okay.

So it just completely destroyed their narrative. If it was a white guy, like, oh, yeah, we can go and we can rip them apart. Yeah. And then go to non-practicing. Okay. The holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy trial was a black man. And I'm not going to share any opinions because I'm not a person of color. I am a non-practicing white.

I'm surprised. I'm a non- Oh, oh, oh, this is new. I love this. Adam, are you not a non-practicing white? Only when I did the show with Mo. And that's when I was a non-practicing white. I'm a non-practicing white.

What does that even mean? This is great. I'm a non-practicing white. Oh, man. I'm going to start using that. That I'm a non-practicing white. You know, I remember the first time that I got called out for white privilege.

It was in Austin. probably around 2012. And Tina and I were having dinner at, you don't remember this because you weren't listening to the show, at the artist, the artist's house, Lori Frick. And she invited over a professor from UT. So it was like a dinner party.

And he's actually, I liked it because he wrote a book about performatives. And it was fascinating. The guy's fascinating. And of course, everyone's drinking. And then also he says like, well, you know, obviously that's,

so it came out. I never heard this before. Well, obviously, you have white privilege. Tina is from Indiana, across the tracks from Gary, Indiana, grew up with five girls in a 900 square foot with one house with one bathroom. Dad worked at the steel mill. I mean, you know, it's like, what? White privilege.

But I wish I'd had this phrase back then. Of color. I am a non-practicing white. Excuse me, professor. I'm a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. It changes the landscape of the conversation a little bit. and I think a lot of us were assuming that it was a white man.

I think this is just we're, we're, I haven't really thought about this much, but I think that we are now seeing the effects of overmedicated people in our country. There's no other way to justify this. Yeah, if you could see this girl on TikTok too, she's definitely on medication. But at least I have a new term that she gave us. Yes. Anybody accuses me. I'm just going to claim I'm a non-practicing white.

Yes, I love it. So now they have, it's a black guy that is completely destroying your narrative. But then there was another, I don't know if this is true or not, but the guy breaks it down pretty good. Go to crazy eyes. Crazy eyes. Oh, I don't have crazy eyes. It would be under sea. Hold on.

I don't have crazy eyes. How do you not have crazy eyes? I don't know. Let me say crazy. No. No, I have. It's crazy underscore eyes? No.

I have all your clips here. Oh, I see. Under 35. Sorry. Now, if you'll remember crazy eyes, the girl who is smiling in the courtroom with green dress, Brittany Romano. While the trial was going on,

she was describing the jurors. And she describes the three male jurors to us. One of them, she said, was a man with the beard. Who was this talking? What is this from? It's another TikTok guy. The other one was a young dude and then there was a fabulous black man. This is what she had to say. It's a young kid. It's the guy with the beard and the fabulous black guy. You really only describe a dude as fabulous if he's got a little, you know, a little limp in his wrist, a little twirl in his eyelash. And so from what I'm hearing, he definitely appears to have been.

been fabulous, which kind of leads me to think that maybe he was potentially gay. I know we're not allowed to guess people's 55 genders or sexualities. But listen, I'm going to lean on the side of fabulous. And if fabulous is what I think it means, then it clearly wasn't the young dude, right? We haven't seen the dude with the beard, but we did see the young dude gave his interview this week so we can eliminate him as being the holdout juror. And now one of the cackling hens has now outed that it was the black man, the only black man on the jury that was the the holdout juror. And it appears that he may not only have been black, but also may have been gay.

Oh, no. The plot thickens. What will we do? You and I is non-practicing whites are confused. So it starts to make it pretty difficult. If the guy is definitely gay and black, how do they take this guy down? Is he in a wheelchair just to make it even better? I mean, he's got to have a limp or a hump.

That would complete the trifecta. Well, it didn't stop them and stop the press from starting to take this guy down. So play Take Down 1. Breaking news, the NBC10 investigators uncovering new details about the one holdout juror from the Lindsay Clancy trial. Documents and interviews with family members reveal a history of domestic violence allegations. It's a story you will only see here on NBC10 Boston. We also discovered it. Only here on NBC Boston.

Every other channel in the universe. only see here on NBC10 Boston. We also discovered a current eviction case tied to months of not paying rent. They're basically digging to this guy's dumpster. Through the fabulous black man's dumpster? They're now going into his dumpster. So they found a way like, okay, we can't attack him

because he's black. You know, Tina told me this. She said, you know, because she's my canary in the coal mine. She's so good at this. She picks these things out one after another. It said, no, you know, now he's got some kind of sketchy background and they're digging through his trash. You're right.

Only see here on NBC10 Boston. We also discovered a current eviction case tied to months of not paying rent. And the NBC10 investigators found an active restraining order against him. Right. While he was listening to the evidence in the case and those details. Well, how does the jury selection done? That didn't pop up in jury selection? Apparently, it's iffy whether or not that is, um,

Seems scary. So you can imagine raise questions about the jury selection process and how the Plymouth County resident was picked for the high profile case that ended in a mistrial. NBC10 investigator Ryan Cath has been digging into the juror's history all week. What did you find out, Ryan? Well, Glenn and Blissiller, we've repeatedly attempted to contact the juror at the home where his landlord is currently trying to evict him. We're not identifying him because he's chosen to not speak publicly and the jury list is currently impounded. but we wanted to share the details that experts say should have raised red flags about how he filled out his juror questionnaire. Okay, sir, do you have any issue complying with the order that you stay away from and have no contact directly or indirectly with the alleged victim in this case and also that you're not abused this person?

You're listening to audio the NBC10 investigators obtained from Brockton District Court in September 2021. That's when the holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy case faced a criminal charge for assaulting his wife. According to this police report, the juror's 13-year-old nephew called 911 after seeing his uncle grab his wife by the throat and throw her into a dresser. The report says the juror's mom repeatedly screamed, your evil as police arrested him. Court records show the couple divorced after the incident and the criminal charge was eventually dismissed. What I'm missing in this, because obviously, it's a tragedy, but there's so much more going on in the world. you may have some local politics you could look at. But what I'm missing is they don't have a Trump angle.

They can't pin something on Trump. And still they're running with it. It's surprising to me in this midterm run-up. Well, if it was a white guy, they might have had a easier path to link it to Trump. But go ahead and we'll get through this. And then a couple more with the go to take down three. We'll skip over two and then maybe do four. The NBC10 investigators also learned that you're,

hasn't paid the monthly rent at his Plymouth County home since last March according to housing court records. As jurors deliberated last week, the landlord secured a judgment of more than $12,000 in unpaid rent and is moving forward with an eviction. So what they've done is

they've basically docks this guy because everything, the information that they've given, anybody could start to look that up and find out who it is. And I think it's intentionally done, And also, did they do this to the other 11 jurors or any of the other jurors that they haven't spoken to today? They'll jump out in front of the camera right away.

Like, talk to me. Not all 11. No, not all 11. That I know of. So the others that were also in a jury, are they digging through their trash as same as this poor guy? Now you sound like Tina. No. I knew I like her.

No. The Clancy trial ended with no verdict. Several jurors told us how the lone holdout refused to engage in deliberations. He would not interact with us. He was very arrogant. He really did not take anything that anybody said. When the NBC10 investigators contacted the jurors' family members, they said he'd been estranged since the alleged incident with his nephew.

None of them knew of his involvement with the Clancy trial. One described him as a narcissist, who she believed, should have never served as a juror in such an important case. So it's a mistrial. So, you know, okay, justice may not have been served, but that's how our system works. I'm not quite sure exactly what happens now. I guess they can come back and try them again,

try this woman again. I'm not sure exactly. But it's the media that is just using this as, you know, like the whole thing is just sickening. I'm just so sick of it. Well, the way they're going after this guy, I find astonishing, even after, you know, Gilles had him bloating when she found out. But here's one more TikTok. I know you love TikTok.

No, I hate them, but thank you very much. You go with racist. So within hours of us finding out that that loan juror was black, NBC just released an article saying that the loan juror had a history of domestic violence because they've interviewed families. family members and they looked into court records. Do y'all see the play? Do you all see the play? So were they going to release this prior to we knowing that that man was black? And I have to ask, because maybe I don't understand. In what way is releasing personal information about a juror even remotely appropriate? Like, in what way is it appropriate? And yet we're supposed to believe that these people are not absolutely racist. They didn't even give it 24 hours. The exact

same day. And I mean, that's a nice little written article. They couldn't wait until we found out that that man was black to now demonize him in the media in an attempt to destroy that man because of the fact that he stood ten toes on Lindsay being guilty. My question is, does he have a history of killing children? No. No? Wow. I'm looking at your jury form and you didn't fill out if you have a history of killing children. So, oh my goodness. Jesus comes soon. We are doomed.

We are doomed. We are doomed. So I did find two others, though, of the whole, there's actually audio. We've heard from the holdout juror before that no one has discovered yet. If you play a holdout one. Okay.

So I'm not going to be lining up, taking a shot on a vaccination for something. Oh, and brings humor into the mix. Very good. That wasn't clear in the first place. And then you all create a shot in miraculous time. It takes years to

create vaccination. Oh, I remember this. This is the guy when Fauci is talking up to him. He's on the porch. Yeah, it's him. You're right. That's the guy. You know how many years we're invested in this? He's definitely cut from the same cloth. That's so good. Approach. About 20 years of science

to get us to be able. years, not enough. And nine months is definitely not enough for nobody to be taking no vaccination that you all came up with. That was so good. That was a fabulous black guy. That was a joke. But then, but here here's some actual audio from inside

the jury deliberations. It's in the holdout too. Enough is enough. I have had it with these motherfucking liberal white women in this motherfuckend courthouse. You know what's interesting though? I heard it

morning on the news, I haven't had time to dive into it, but now there's calls for repealing the 19th Amendment over this, which is giving women the right to vote. It's like, what is happening? What is happening? I'll take us in a different direction unless you wanted to continue on this disastrous course. I think we've covered it. And could you please thank Alex very much for bringing this to the forefront of the show? Really appreciate it. It was supposed to bring news, and that's what everybody's talking about. I know, I know, I know, I know.

So Dana and I, you know, Dana, we kind of spoke for the, we had spoken before. You had some cockamamie idea with AI. I'm like, yeah, okay, you should probably shouldn't do that. And then after John passed, then, you know, we were talking. And you said, hey, I'm lonely. I have no one to talk to when I take my gummy. And I said, well, you. can't call me during dinner when you're all high.

Yeah, we've got to figure this out. We've got to have a better time. But we connected pretty well on on AI and the technology and what can be done with it. And I think I saw that you might have some clips on this as well. Kill all humans.

Kill all humans. Must kill all you. So I'll start us off with let me see. I have I have three I'll play three clips. They're relatively short. The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade.

This is not a marketing stunt. The people building AI earnestly believe it could kill us all by the end of the next decade. Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it is greater than 10% within the next decade. Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it's greater than 10% within the next decade. So you're predicting that AI could very well destroy all of humanity. Yeah.

So that was the headline. It wasn't exactly what that guy wrote, Jacob. And right on cue, here come the AI boys who clearly want to put a moat around their companies because we can't have, you know, we can't have Curry and Brunetti running stuff at home on their, on their own computers. Oh, no, no, no, no, we can't have that. And now industry leaders are pleading with Congress to start passing new safety rules. Its CEO, Sam Altman, in a Senate hearing, recommended government intervention. Even the industry is pushing for safety standards.

We think that regulatory intervention by governments will be critical to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models. We want to be vocal about that. We want to work with the government to prevent that from happening. There is no immediate sign Congress will craft sweeping you. AI rules as European lawmakers are doing. And right on cue with only 48, 49 days to go, ah, the Democrats jump on it. It's all Trump and the Republicans' fault.

This has not been a topic where there's been a lot of leadership from the United States Congress. In fact, Donald Trump has been trying to block AI regulation. But the problem is you've got Donald Trump over here who has taken loads of AI cash appoints people in David Sachs who... I want to... someone that AI cash. Taking loads of AI cash appoints

people like David Sachs who is just the scumiest AI investor to basically lead all of his AI policy. Seems like a nice guy. This is Greg Cassar, by the way, who was a councilman in Austin. I have a clip of him as well. Oh, good, because

this guy who, you know, he kind of ran on the Latino vote. But I think he's, you know, I've got to look him up. But he's, he's not even Latino or Latinx or Latinx or whatever it is. And so when you have whistleblowers saying this could be a serious national security event, usually any president of any party would take that seriously. But instead, you've got Republicans who lead the Congress doing nothing. In fact, their main

initiative is to get rid of the little state laws that we have. Well, you shouldn't trust anything a politician says. You should look at what this is the big white hope of Texas, uh, Tala rico, who's running against Ken Paxton. Politician has done because the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Ken Paxton has taken nearly half a million dollars linked to the data center industry. Linked. And it's why he ignored residents in Hood County when they asked for his help as attorney general to pause data center construction in their community.

He just ghosted them. And that's because he's bought and paid for by the data center industry. But with their blanket, 10-year ban on state AI regulation, Republicans are choosing a sledgehammer over a scalpel. They are choosing big tech over kids, families, seniors, and disadvantaged communities across this country. We cannot allow this to happen. And of course, Altman, Amade, all these guys are crazy liberals, crazy liberals, especially Amade. you know, he's like Sam Bankman-Fried-level nut job.

Yeah. And you can see it in the models, you know, it's like anything you want to use chat GPT. I mean, I don't use the chat bots because that, of course, is bad and evil. But the models themselves, you know, they won't let you do anything fun. Like Tina said, hey, could you put 50 pounds on me in this picture? Because I want to see what I would look like fat. I'm like, okay. No, no, no, we can't.

this might incur body shaming. Body shaming. But, you know, but my daughter, she's got Chad GPT in Europe. No problem. It works. No problem. Yeah, some of the guardrails, I guess more of the guardrails are off there. Yeah. But what's your opinion on this, though?

Do you think it's a sci-op? Well, it depends on what piece. I mean, the, so first of all, there's a lot of... The kid coming out, the Jacob Coxon. That's not a side. That is Anderson Cooper, when he's, and Anderson Cooper says,

the guy himself, I said that. This is not a marketing stunt. That's exactly what it was. It was a marketing stunt because they- So you think it's anthropic then? Well, all of these companies want regulation. And you and I know why? Because, you know, I'm now,

how this wonderful guy in Austin, Eric Timor, he sent me an ASIS, R-TX, DX10 100 gigabyte, 128 gigabyte computer. And I'm running all kinds of amazing stuff on. He said, I was just gathering dust. I'd send it to you. And it's, I mean, it's outrageous what I can do at zero cost. These guys don't want that.

They want, and I don't think it's coincidence that, oh, yeah, well, it hacked into hugging face. No, someone left a password, you know, an API key, which is a, just one string of letters. Yeah, they had to tell it what to do, basically. It didn't just do that. It wasn't hacking. But, oh, but who's the target?

Hugging face. The number one enemy of these guys. These guys don't want, you know, like a GitHub for AI nerds like us to be tootling around and making this stuff actually useful and do what we wanted to do. So they want regulations for every, they want an FAA for AI. And they are pushing for it by lying,

by, you know, doing stuff like, oh, this is, this model is so powerful. It's so powerful. We can only give it. We have to have the banks look at it first. Oh, please. They said that about chat GPT too. Yeah, that's exactly.

And that thing really sucks. That blowed. That was no good. But, Dana, there's a lot of things that have a 10% chance of killing all humans. A lot of things. maybe like, you know, Russia and Ukraine. There's a real possibility. Things could go wrong there.

This may be even more than 10%. So, yeah, that's a possibility. So that part is a sigh up. And then it may, I don't know if it's coordinated, but it seems. It definitely was coordinated. I mean, the guy, he put that on Twitter, a Twitter account that had no activity or an X account.

Sorry, I keep calling a Twitter. I'm old school with that. And then even Elon pointed out that, yeah, there was something odd there. They had no activity and ended up with 100 million plus views. And it was posted like 15 minutes after the Wall Street Journal article report came out. And it was Bernie Sanders. He announced his bill and the other guy you were talking about in Austin.

That bill was on September 3rd. And then it was a week later. This guy comes out with it. Like it seems just a bit too coincidental. No, that was the setup. up, but then they immediately parlay that because this data center thing is now a big issue for voters, particularly in Texas. And, you know, we've got Ken Paxton, who I do not like this man's character at all.

And the fact in the primaries, you know, we don't have a party primary here. Anybody can go and vote. I thought Wesley Hunt would be much better to go against Tala Rico. And, but, you know, now it's like, you heard him. And Talarica's like, oh, he took a data center money linked to data centers, whatever. And that could sway some people, particularly because he's apparently a Christian, who believes God is non-binary. Yeah. And he's a Texan, even though he was a vegetarian.

A lot of things don't make sense there. But none of that lines up. But, I mean, the question is, and I think we probably agree on this, was AI really going to kill us? Well, no. I think bad security might kill us, might kill some people, might make some things go bad, but they make it. I mean, I read the report. And even the report, you know, well, all the AIs, they got together and they convinced some AIs to, to suicide themselves for the good of the cause. Like, bull crap.

These things, they don't live. They're not living beings. No. I think they're not living beings, but also just how, if they can get, the word I'm starting to hear a lot now is recursive. Oh, yeah. There's a couple of words. Recursive self-improvement, which has been the programmer's dream

ever since I've been hanging out with computer programming engineers. Oh, yeah. Just recursive anything is always cool because it's like holding a mirror in front of another mirror. So like, oh yeah, look at that recursive, which also can blow your stuff up. So yeah, supposedly, you know, I don't think so. I think that if it's, if you're doing recursive self-improvement, that's like making a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy and eventually entropy sets in and it just doesn't work anymore. So I'm very skeptical of that. And then the other one is, which I would love this on a business card. I am the vice president of

alignment. This is the new term. Yes, our models need to be in alignment, which means in alignment with humans so we don't kill humans, which of course is not human nature. We kill each other. That's what we do. Yeah.

So, no, I mean, I have a lot of friends in corporate IT, and they are, I mean, they are ready to get medicated. They're pulling their hair out. for like three main topics. One is the enterprise software they're getting, which used to,

you know, most enterprise software is probably outsourced to India, Bangladesh, you know, maybe to, um, uh, there's a couple other countries where they have,

India, well, India, um, Philippines. And, and now those people who were like five dollar an hour, uh,

programmers, they're now, vibe coding. They're on the beach. Like, I can fix it for you. So big corporate software is starting to be shipped with bugs and all kinds of stuff is breaking. Then they have their executives who are coming into the IT department every day.

Like, hey, how come I can't put this into chat GPT and it gives me the spreadsheet? And it's like this kind of stuff. But they also see that there's benefit to it. But it's such a dichotomy with what people have been told that this can do and what it can actually do and the mistakes that it makes. And what they're actually using it for. My wife, she's an attorney and nothing drives her more crazy than her clients that are putting things into ChachyPT. And then just cutting and pasting that into an email to her of like, well, this is what ChachyPT told me. Why can we do this?

She should double her rate, double her rates. and my sister-in-law who's a designer, interior designer, is getting the same thing from her clients. And she's now told them, if you send me anything from ChachyPT again, I'm firing you as a client. Yeah, absolutely. That's Rob the constitutional lawyer sees that,

although he loves it because, you know, he gets benefit out of it. You know, like anything, if you know what you're doing, you know, if you're a, if you're a carpenter, this is kind of an interesting saw. You use chat GPT to check something like on something you already know. Or to give you some information back on something that you already know.

Yes. So how do you use it? How do you use it? I mean, besides for, you know, putting surveillance systems up on your farm. We're not calling it an estate. We'll just call it the farm. It's a ranch. I call it a ranch.

Which then people are under like, well, what are your ranch? I don't ranch anything. I got some horses. I have too many horses. I don't. My wife does. You know, of all the problems I've had in my life, too many horses has not been one of them. I once had two horses.

That's what I had, two horses. I highly suggest that if anybody's considering getting a horse or their wife or kid wants to get a horse, do not do it because it's literally like lighting money on fire. Not only that, but they're not nice. Horses, I find horses. It depends. It depends on the type of horse. And if it's a Galdian or mare or stud or that all varies.

But all the ones we have are pretty gentle. We need a book Too Many Horses.com. That's what we need. But to answer the question. By Dana Brunetti. I use AI for, I use AI to cut all these clips. Now, I actually told you to do that. And you did.

And so what did you use and how did you do it? I used Grockbot, which I was going to use that as the tip of the day, but I guess I'm doing that now and I have a backup though. But Grockbot, I think anybody that is just using chatbots, if you're just using Claude or chat GPT, I think Grockbot is an easy user-friendly way to kind of go over to agents or bots that are actually doing more than just answering back to you. So I would suggest people watch like a video on just how to set it up because you can set up a million different ways for your own personal use. But what I did is I put in a, I basically just told it, I downloaded from their marketplace or whatever it is one called EggBot, which is a bot that will build other bots for you. So you tell an egg bot what you want that bot to do. And I've also learned rather than just having one like doing everything like you do a chat, you build bots specifically. for what you wanted to do.

And so I had EggBot, build a bot for me. I'm saying a bot a lot. I had it built a bot for me that called Clips and told it that it's, I told it what I was doing, what I was using it for. And so it's set up that bot. And then so I would just, I would literally just take the link from wherever the video was. I was getting the audio. Put it into that, into the clip bot.

It would pull all of the audio and then give me a try. transcript and then I'd literally say tighten it up at the end go from this word to that word and and it just and then it put it and then it gave it to me as way files you said to give it to get them as mp3s I said give it to me as mp3s and whatever the format you told me and then it just it generated them all out that way yeah you forgot to tell I forgot to tell you to tell your your egg bot to tell your bot bot uh your clip bot to normalize them it's okay because uh My robot went, hey, these clips from... You have a normalizing bot.

Yes, these, they said, hey, these clips from Brunetti suck. What's going on with it? They're all over the place. Would you like me to normalize them? Congratulations. You're now the new co-hosts of the No Agenda show. It's so easy. You'll feel great.

You'll feel great. I just, I just have to send it. And the cool thing was, you can do it from your phone because it's an app on your phone as well. So if I would, if I would, finding something on Twitter or whatever, and I would just copy the link, or actually not even, I would just share it, and I'd share it from Twitter or wherever I was,

and Grokbot would pop up, and then I'd select the clip bot, and it would go in, and then it was right there, so I could do it from anywhere. So do you think you'll ever make movies with AI? I would love to. I've talked to Scaramanga a couple times about the idea, and it's ultimately, look, it reminds me of when people were so against digital,

when, you know, digital versus film. I'll never shoot on film. I'll never, I'll never shoot on digital. Yeah, sure. And it's like, final cut pro is not, it's not a real thing. You need to be, you need white gloves and a razor blade. Yeah. And it's like, if it's a tool and it works, why not embrace it?

and why not use it? I get if it looks like crap and whatever doesn't work, then you don't use it. But if it's a tool and you can make it work and everybody in my business, we're supposed to be storytellers. And use whatever tool you can to tell a story. Kingman rode on the sides of walls with rock walls with, you know, whatever, you know, with other rocks.

And I'm sure I'm sure there was a dude that I went, hey man, if you're not doing your drawings in horse poop, you're not the real deal. You can't be doing that on the cave wall. That's quite the analogy we came up with. I'm sorry. But yeah, no, it's great. But, yeah, I'm all for AI as far in the business, which is, that's against the trend.

But people, as you said earlier, when we went to streaming, everyone was like, No, it's totally against. Can't do it. And a lot of them still are. And everyone was announced that. we were doing House of Cards on Netflix, people would call me and be like, you have Kevin Spacey and David Fincher

and a television show and you're putting it on the internet. Yeah, yeah, I'm putting it on the internet. So, well, arguably, the music business did kind of get killed, at least making money on music sales. There's plenty of, man, there's this, I'm not really on this. Go ahead.

Hollywood's going to get, I mean, Hollywood's kind of killed itself. But it's definitely, and it's always evolving. And AI will ultimately kill it in the same way that YouTube and streaming and a lot of those like really took a huge market share. And AI is going to do that as well. And it goes back to something I was saying 20 some years ago was adapt or die. And if somebody can create something and engage in audio. and be a storyteller and they're using AI to do it, good for them.

But to try to stop it just because it's like, oh, I don't understand it. I don't get it. That's crazy. So I found a book, which I had read a version of when I was a kid, like seven years old. And the book is from 1849. So it's public domain. And I told my bot, okay, I want you to take this story and I want you to recreate it in this way. and I want you to make it an audio drama. I gotta say, first of all, the writing and just the, you know,

it immediately knew, okay, here's your cast profiles, here's all, I'm like, well, okay. And I said, all, well, let's do some voices. You know, I got all the voices here at home. I don't have to go to, I don't have to spend, spend any money on it. So, you know, I selected voices and then it did backgrounds and effects. And, you know, I haven't scored it yet. but I'm listening to him like this is actually kind of quite good

yeah I've sorry I mean to catch you go ahead I've done similar with people always send me scripts and I'm not a good reader I know that sounds crazy being a film producer but I've never in my entire life I've never been a good reader and I have ADD or whatever

and undiagnosed oh but uh oh he's on the spectrum sure yeah welcome to the club exactly whenever I'm reading something, I can finish a whole page and not have any idea of what I read. So I have to really sit and concentrate to even read a script. So I've, uh, audiobooks have always been great for me. Uh, but with scripts, when people are sending them to me now, I'm dropping them to AI and having AI read them and getting better with that of changing voices. Oh, good. There's actually some, I'm going to send you my, uh, my audio drama. I'll send you that.

Do you want to talk about your, the other thing that you sent me? Yeah, sure. Tell everybody what it is. It's my memoir. Yeah. I think it's... Go ahead. Well, so...

Let me see if I can position this right. So I have told a lot of stories. In fact, the last episode was a lot of my MTV stories, which unfortunately I didn't have just because we were the grandbaby and everything. I didn't put it together the way I would have wanted to. And there was even a repeat of a story. story and some things were cut off the wrong way because I had my robot to it. But this all came from previous work I'd done of scanning through, you know, 1900 episodes of no agenda transcripts

pulling these stories out. And it's not just MTV stories. It's my life story. I think I've told my life story. And 20 years of my life has been on this show. And I had a specific idea of how I wanted to position this as looking back on my life. life, I'm quite, no, I'm 100% sure that, you know, I didn't invent podcasting. You know, I was used by- The same as I didn't invent streaming. Well, but I think it was a God thing. And because there's no other reason for me to come up with this.

And what it, and by the way, I didn't know at the time, but the first people who started podcasting were Christian broadcasters. They were like, this is great. We're sick of buying airtime on AM radio and C band satellites. Like, we've been looking for something like this. And so then I said, well, isn't that interesting? Maybe if I look back on my life and I can see where God moved in my life. And that might be an interesting way of telling my life story.

And then, and this is where we connected, I said, I want to do this in the same vein as Robert Evans. The kid stays in the picture. If a kid stays in a picture. Yeah. Which is, you know, Robert Evan. Well, anyway, you'll pick that up. So, and I wanted to be in that tone. And because it wasn't the, I never read the book.

I listened to the audio book of Robert Evans, which is like nine hours, I think. And then when I saw the movie, I'm like, oh, this is, what a great way to do it because it's the audio book with kind of Ken Burns effects and not all of it. But, you know, archive footage, all with him telling the story. and then there's there are some clips and there's clippings and pictures and stuff. And so you and I were talking and you said. Yeah. The kid stays in the picture was the reason I became a producer.

And when I saw that, I was like, well, this is, one, it's an incredible documentary. It's one of my favorite films. And was really led me on the path that I took in the Hollywood. and when I started with your book, I like this lines read up with the same idea is what he did in the documentary has a lot of old photos and the documentary was like 20, 25 years ago at least.

And at the time I think they used like after effects and was the first time where they animated the photos and the Ken Burns kind of way, but they kind of took the people out of the background and had them move. But with him telling his story, him narrating the story all the way through. And your book, what you've done of it so far, is very similar to that.

We have creative differences, though, and this is going to come to a head, so we might as as well do it right here on the show. All right, let's get at it. Because you are immediately like, hey, man, I think you should tone down the God thing, you know. I still do. Yeah, but I'm going to go for the big Christian streaming money. Okay, that's fine.

And I think you should do that. But I think you can. Brunetti? No. But not with me, Buster. No, I don't want it to be too heavy hand. I think you can still

keep that audience and cater to them. Oh, sure. Sure. But I think you'll turn some people off to it that would enjoy it, but they'll just kind of, I think you've got to do a little slower burn on it to get in. I'm not

saying to remove it, but I just want It's heavy on it. Part of the mission of the book is to get the Christ curious into the kingdom. Okay. Well, then if you want to accomplish that, you can't shut them out right off. No, no, no, no. No, no, we'll start right away with sex drugs and rock and roll. There you go.

Obviously. Obviously. All right. Well, we'll do our notes session another time. The only thing that's sad is that we could have finally given John as bit part. You know, that's the only thing that bugs me. Hey, we're going to do it in AI. We're going to put John in there in AI.

I think, I said to you the other day, I said, we could probably do this whole movie in AI. We could. But then, but you really could. The only thing that we could, AI, is we need your narration if we did it that way. No, of course I'm going to narrate myself. Well, then, I mean, otherwise, I'll sample you and throw it in 11 labs. No, you know what?

I'm kidding. I've tried, but I've tried that so many times. You know, a number of people have tried to do a Dvorak, 11 labs voice. Oh, I did. I was going to have a surprise with him talking to you from beyond. It sucks. And it's awful.

It's all awful. It's, you know, it'll create something. It'll create something that's doable, but it's not John. And when I did it by myself, it's not. It was just not it. But by the time you get your book done and we actually really get around to doing this, AI will have advanced, if it hasn't killed us, it will advance so much further that maybe it will work. I'm counting on it.

I already have, I already got the money people lined up. I got the studio. I got the money people lined up. I mean, I just need you to get drunk and pitch it to them. I'm telling you. If you have them lined up, you haven't sold them yet? No, I'm taking them out to dinner. Hey, hold on a second. Hold on a second.

What? Ah, Paps Blue Ribbon, everybody. There you go. Oh, nice throwback. Very good. Let's listen to Anderson Pooper here with Dario, Dario from Anthropic. I just want to quote from the proposal you said, it's my worry that in six to... They've all signed like a letter. You know, this is the funniest thing to me.

So all these guys are competitors. And Elon's in on this too. Like, we're all going to slow down development of AI because, you know, Curry and Brunetti are trying to, you know, burn Hollywood by making movies this way. And, oh, yeah, it's going to kill everybody. So we're good guys. We're really good guys.

So we don't want AI to kill everybody. So we're going to go careful and slow it down. Give us regulations. I just want to quote from the proposal you said, it's my worry that in six to three, 12 months, such a swarm could be capable of taking over the entire internet with a persistent botnet potentially causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage and that the scale of damage would continue to increase from there if AI becomes more powerful without the necessary guardrails.

That's, I mean, that's terrifying. That is, that is why I've made this extraordinary proposal. And, and again, I'm not a dumer about this. I think this technology can be, built safely. Why are you yelling? And when we've looked at, you know, incidents. You know, I just noticed this. Who is that talking? This is the CEO of Anthropics. Dario. Yeah. He sounds like Bill Gates. A little bit, yeah. Yeah, he's coming. He's from that Bill Gates, milieu. Yeah, it's interesting. That we have faced at cases where our models haven't behaved as perfectly as they could behave because I think this, you know, to some extent has happened to everyone. We're often able to look at causes. And we look and we say, right there. Is he from the Pacific Northwest,

this Dario guy? I wonder if it's a region thing. I'll take a look. We had, you know, we had this stage where we train the AIs, right? And their behavior at the time that they act, at the time that they do these things, is shaped by their behavior while they're being trained. And When we look back, what we find is, oops, we included some environments that encourage the models to cheat, that encourage the models to hack out by mistake. Hack out. And now, you know, now that we understand we're going back, we're taking more time to make sure that. He also has a bit of a job zian thing in there. It's a little bit of, I guess it's just, it's just Silicon Valley, I guess.

We always have tried to filter out these bad training environments, but we're trying to do an even more rigorous job of them than we have in the past. And I looked at it and I said, look, if we just had a little more time, we could do. If only had more crystals, Captain. So much of a better job here. And so we're going to take the more time to make sure that we don't get to the world of persistent botnets, to make sure that each step we take is a careful step. And is a step where we can...

Botnets. I mean, okay, sure. You can create a botnet, but it all comes down to just typical cybersecurity. It's going to find, it's going to make everything better, ultimately. The world of persistent botnets to make sure that each step we... A world of... In a world. In a world with persistent botnets and women who wear comfortable shoes. We're going to take the more time to make sure that we don't get to the world. world of persistent botnets to make sure that each step we take is a careful step and is a step where we can seize the benefits while also mitigating these risks, making the probability of

something like this going wrong very, very low. Okay. And then he throws this in. Anthropic accusing Chinese AI company Moonshot AI of covertly routing thousands of user request through its clawed models and passing off the responses as its own. Yeah, of course. That's what you do. Anthropic accused moonshot up. Everybody I know who is developing with AI uses, you know, clawed code or whatever else to build the stuff and then they run it on something off of hugging face.

Of course. That's the way you do it. What I do is I have like chat GPT. develop the architecture on something I want to build. And then I'll have it give me a prompt. They'll say, okay, look, this has access to my Mac Mini. There's two different things. Give me a prompt.

I'll take that prompt, give it to Grokbot and to Claude Code. Wow. And then I'll take those two responses and say, okay, here's the two responses, which one's the best to move forward with this. So it doesn't know which one it is because I feel like it might have a bias. And then it'll say, okay, this option A is the best. And then I'll say, okay, that was Grockbot. And then it would say something like, okay, Grockbot, we'll have it, build it.

And then we'll use cloud code to check its work. And so I have this whole circle jerk of AI going on when I'm building something more complex. Circle jerk of AI. That is a potential show title. All right. Circle jerk of AI, impossible. Might be a little too crude. Maybe.

So your model hopping is what you're doing. Now, you have a teenage daughter. Does she use chatbots? She does use chatbots. Debating whether or not to get her using Grokbot, I probably will. Yes. Is she like talking to it and asking questions about life? No.

No. No, she's used. She wrote a book, it's like 300 and some pages. What? Yeah. Cool. It's just like a young, romantic, you know, comedy for, Gen Y.

And I thought it was going to be, you know, like it's my daughter. I have to read it. I actually, I cloned her voice because, again, I told you that I, you know, I'm not good at reading. And I had Speechify, I cloned her voice. So I had her read the book to me via Speechify while I'm working here at the ranch. And I thought it was going to be, you know, I was going to have to be polite and nice about it. But she actually did a really good job. And I asked her, did you use AI to write.

write it and she said, you know, she said no, but she has used it to check things and correct things and come up with different scenarios. She actually got accused, she homeschools and she got accused of using AI on a paper. And so she had to have a separate meeting with a teacher. So the teacher started asking her questions thinking he would, excuse me, would stump her and realize that, well, she, wait, she didn't use AI. She's just. just that smart. Wow. She doesn't get it from me.

She gets it from her mother, but she is very, very smart and very, very bright and very independent. I told you she's, and this is something that you'll find interesting. She reads the Bible. I'm not religious,

neither is her mom or my wife, and she just kind of found it on her own, and every night she's reading the Bible. And last Christmas, that's one of the main gifts she wanted, was the leather-bound Bible, that it's clearly a teenage daughter who, or teenage girl who has it

because it's completely on the sides of things written on it and drawn and all the pages are all. Yellow highlighter. Yeah. Sure. Oh, wow. I love that. I love that.

Praise the Lord. Nice. Yeah. And like I said, I'm not religious, but I think it's great that she's doing that because she's very, very grounded and well,

well, around it. So when we talk to the money, people for the movie. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Here, tell me what to say, Adam.

Yeah, don't say I'm not religious. Okay, got it. Hey, can you edit all this out afterwards? Hey, man, me and a lot of people are praying for you. We want to win you for the kingdom. Hey, listen, I know when I did the podcast with Adam, I said I wasn't religious, but since then. Yeah.

Hey, man, you think you can stop it. Mm-mm, mm-mm. You know what? Some of the best stories are in that book. I'm telling you. Did you go to church? Did you go to church today? Yes, of course.

Of course. Did you pray for me? Yes, I pray for you almost every day. Did you pray that hopefully I wouldn't screw up the show? No, no. I only pray for one thing. Please, God, don't let him mess on the show. No, no, I pray for one thing.

And I've told you this. I pray, said, Lord, we want Dana Burnetti in the kingdom because he will make such amazing movies about your son's story. it'll be phenomenal. Because when I, there's a lot of really bad Christian movies out. It's getting much better, much much better. But oh, man, they could use, they could use some help. They really could.

And, you know, like Young Washington did pretty well, even though that's not specifically a faith-based movie. Yeah, I didn't see it. You did tell me to watch that. I need to check it out. Yeah, it's, I think it's streaming now. Wonder Project did that. But, you know, and there's fun people in it.

Ben Kingsley, Kelsey Grammer, the kid who played George Washington, he could be a little superstar in the making. But there's just, people are hungry for it. They're sick and tired of what's, of all the remakes and all. It's, uh, it's, uh, as we've discussed, it's a huge market that hasn't been, uh, service or properly tapped. Precisely. Just from a, from a business perspective, it's, it's, it's a big, uh,

audience but Hollywood doesn't seem to care about that. I used to always say when you fly from L.A. to New York and you look out the window, that's who we're making movies for. And they clearly have lost that. Yeah, exactly. You know, Mel Gibson, I just heard an interview with him. So the, the Passion of the Christ is playing again in movie theaters right now for this week. And I think that thing, they're like $650 billion to billion dollars, some amazing amount of money. Why is it playing in movies in theaters again this week? I'm not sure why, but other than for him to promote his next two movies,

which will be the resurrection. It'll be two parts, two different movies. So that may be... It's like a primer before those. I think so. I think so. Did you see any box office? This is how disconnected I am from the business.

I couldn't tell you anything about what's currently happening. Last time I went to theater was for... the last film I did, Grand Turismo, which John was there. Well, let's ask the Book of Knowledge. Hold on a second. There you go. Let's see if the Book of Knowledge has anything for us. Book of Knowledge.

Do you have the latest box office scores for this special week viewing of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ? All right. Here we go. Let's see what comes up. Oh, it has to search deep. I don't know if we'll get anything. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

Oh, what? Oh, here we go. According to the Book of Knowledge, Lionsgate and Fathom Entertainment have brought the Passion of the Christ back to theaters nationwide from September 10th to 17. Newly remastered from the original camera

negative in 4K resolution. However, the specific opening weekend box office tallies for this re-release have not yet been inscribed in the scrolls with firm numbers. The scrolls don't have it yet. I guess, well, it's in the middle of its run, but I'm going to say it didn't do great on the first three days if it was released from the 10th to the 17th.

So screenings include an exclusive behind the scenes peak at the resurrection of the Christ, which is the new movie. So that's part of the hook there. Okay. Got it. Now, I'm, but I know the young Washington, I think they made that money in that movie for $2 million. I think it did $30 million in the first two weeks. That's a good return. That's a great return.

You kidding me? That's fantastic. Just two more things on AI that this does concern me. I'm a big fan of General Scott Besant, but he seems to be buying into this stuff. Secretary Besant first, thank you for your comments. One of the topics you mentioned was artificial intelligence or AI. There's a lot of excitement on the topic. Yes.

A little bit of repetition in some corners. I'm excited. Would you comment on your views on the... economic growth that AI could bring us and your views on regulating AI. Well, I think we're already seeing the economic growth that it could bring us. I think a lot of people in this room would know that every $300 billion is 1% of GDP. And we are seeing that the hyperscalers are going to spend at least $750 billion this year. Obviously, a lot of that's import, so it won't go directly into GDP.

but we are seeing the here and now, whether it's in the construction jobs, in the capital markets, the things that are happening. And I think that we all just have to have an open mind in terms of where this can take us. But I remember the internet boom or the office modernization technology boom in the 90s. and added about, for those of you who I'm sure, like I did, read Alan Greenspan's obituaries over the past few days. There's a movie, Alan Greenspan's obituaries. He was correct. That technological boom roughly doubled productivity from one and a half to three.

Could we do at least that? Can we do maybe more? Before I play the second clip, do you feel like this is the same as the early days of the internet, you know, HTML, the web? Do you feel that there's an analogy there? In what way? That it eventually will become something very big and very productive for the world.

Yeah. Here you go. A hundred percent. 100. You've got to say it right. A 100. Yes. Okay.

100%. And in terms of the regulation, it is something that I think about every day at Treasury because of AI, the financial system and our responsibility for responsibility of guiding the American economy. We think about the implications, and we are trying to optimize a very difficult calculus in terms of innovation and safety to get the proper equilibrium to make sure that we can maintain our lead because I will tell you, President Trump asked me to give some remarks in Ebion France to the G7 leaders about AI. And many, many of them had talked about AI risk, the risk to safety, the risk to employment. And I think they were slightly stunned when I said

the biggest risk to AI is China. Now I was going to stop it and ask. I was going to ask you if you knew what it was. I'm getting ahead of us. I have that written down, though, that as in my notes, that if we do all this regulation, we're only regulating ourselves here. China's not going to abide by any regulations, and so it's going to put us behind. Oh, the whole concept is stupid. Let me ask you.

You asked me about, you know, early days of, you remember the tubes? Do you think that these? Wait, the series of tubes? Yeah. Hold on. Do you... I think I have the clip. Let me say...

Oh, I don't have it anymore. Okay. But do you think that these guys, even best or others that are talking about, those are Bernie Sanders, really understands AI in a way other than just using the chatbot? Like, do they... I think they're talking about just the same way that that guy was with the series of tubes. Didn't really understand how the Internet worked, but they're trying to regulate it. I think that they need people that if they're going to do anything,

or talk about it, they need to fully understand it. They need to get me and you in there to smack them around and get them in shape. That is the last thing on my list. It's the last thing on my list, too. I said somebody like me and you. Not me and you, but like me and you. So to me, here's the part that's exactly like this. So Silicon Valley wants this to be an iPhone.

That's what they want. Oh, this is a new iPhone and it'll be this item that we can sell over and over again. We get a new upgrade every year. and that's what Silicon Valley wants. That's how they think. I've been in that world long enough to know that that's their whole MO. It is very much like those early days because, and this all kind of came out of the hobbyists to start with.

You know, InVidio was they made, you know, cards for gaming computers. No wonder it does well with, you know, creating video and images. And video story is such a great story too. I was listening to a podcast about it. I mean, they almost went out of business so many times. Oh, yeah. I mean, they've been really on the ropes. And, you know, Kuda is really what, you know,

is the magic that they put together for their, for their GPUs. Yep. How many Kudas do you have? I look at your Kuda. Well, they almost killed that, too. Yeah. Well, that will not be in the memoirs. But the whole, the whole fact that the stuff I'm able to do,

here at home without having to rely on Elon or Sam or Dario. That is very much like the old days of slinging HTML code and putting it on a server, you know, and doing all that stuff. It feels exactly the same. And it's fun and it's exciting. Somebody posted the other day, you know, if Steve Jobs had marketed the iPhone the way AI companies,

our marketing, let me see if I can find it, our marketing AI, there will be a picture of him. Hold on a second. I think Spurlock posted this. Let me check. Maybe he didn't. You know, basically up on the screen,

it's like, makes you want to kill yourself, causes depression. It's like, yeah, exactly. This is all marketing. And a lot of people are falling for it. I mean, but it's the same thing. I wonder if I have this clip somewhere.

Okay. I played a Kaza or whatever Sanders ban. Oh, Kazar? Okay. Why you look for that? 20 years in prison, same as building a nuclear weapon. That's the penalty that Bernie Sanders and I are putting into our bill to ban artificial superintelligence.

Here's why. Leading the thinkers and the top scientists of the world. say that if AI companies are able to develop artificial superintelligence, it could put the freedom and the lives of millions of people at risk. If artificial superintelligence is developed, it one, would be smarter and faster than all of humans. Two, it could develop or have access to nuclear or biochemical weapons or be able to create new viruses. And three, it could- This guy does not understand what he's talking about. You know, I'm still waiting for them to cure can. Cancer. Yeah. This was the promise cure cancer.

Receive humans about being under human control or even defy human commands like refuse to be turned off. Now this may... How about unplug the computer? Pull the power. You can pull the power. Control C. One of the Terminator movies. But we're seeing this start to happen in real life. In real life. In real. This is Greg Casar.

Yeah. I can't believe that he's in Congress. In July, OpenAI admitted that two of its models broke out of a locked down test. I mean, that is the... Can you just they broke out? Like, they broke through the wall like the, like the Kool-Aid man. Yes, it's anthropomorphizing of computer code. You know, it's like it broke out, hacked in, it conspired.

OpenA.I admitted that two of its models broke out of it... You might have dated two of those models, I'm not sure. Locked down test against human orders hacked into another... Against human orders. AI company. An unprecedented moment in the history of technology. And then... Wow.

Nothing. No new guardrails being passed by Congress. No new protections against this signed into law by the President of the United States. So we wrote a bill. It bans building AI designed to surpass human intelligence or to defy human orders. and it establishes a federal agency that will ensure that we're kept safe, just like the federal agencies we have to keep us safe from, say, nuclear weapons. And if a company defies this proposed law,

then we shut it down and impose a real penalty. Please, yeah, you're right. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. So here's the marketing, and this is what reminds me so much of the old days of the wet. Well, actually, first, here's Sam Altman telling us that he's a good guy. They're a good company. We're going to IPO, invest now, while you can still get it cheap or whatever. And we will always put your safety over profits.

Both OpenAI and Anthropic are preparing to go public in the near future. With Anthropic now expected to go first, becoming a public company would bring new pressure from shareholders. OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar recently told employees that the company will IPO in 2027 or sooner if its business continues to inflect. You don't seem phased about the implications of pausing training and like it sounds like you think the business will be okay. I'm sure you're still going to get concerns from people.

I think I've been very consistent over the 10 years of Open AI of more than 10 years, almost 11. of talking about the risks and the upsides and the need to balance those and I don't think we're perfect I don't think our company is perfect and like our model is perfect I don't think I am perfect

but I think unlike some I like it my house I'm not perfect he's a symbol as me I don't think we're perfect I don't think our company is perfect I don't think our model is perfect

I don't think I am perfect I'm close very close but I'm not perfect But I think, unlike some other people running various AI efforts, like, I've said the same thing through actions and words match. And this is a moment we always talked about. And we always said this would, you know, we'd put this ahead of profits or revenue or anything else. I still think we will build a phenomenally successful company. But, you know, maybe we're like not the company.

You would have expected to say, hey, we're going to slow down because we see these new risks. but that is always the company we thought we are. Yeah. Buh, crap. So that's Sam Altman's version of marketing. But then there's another guy with in Anthropic. I think it's John. Brockman, I don't know, it was the first name.

And Brockman, so he's like the president or whatever, it's C-O-O. So he's up there next to Altman. And the joke that John and I always used to talk about, we used to tell is that the promise of the Internet has always been, your refrigerator will know when your milk has run out, it will order it for you and automatically replace it. And that still has yet to come true. So here's Brockman's modern day version of what AI will mean for you.

While Sam Altman is known as the face of Open AI, co-founder and president Greg Brockman is the one who oversees many of the day-to-day activities. We are looking at transforming the entire economy. That's the thing that I think is very hard to see from the outside, right? It's it kind of feels like, hey, it's a business, like, you know, we're selling SaaS software. That's not what we're doing, right? We're doing something very different. We are transforming the economy to be a compute-powered one.

And I think what an enterprise even is will change. And so the question is, well, where do you start? How do you make sure that you understand every segment and you're able to sell in a repeatable fashion to all of them? Open AI has boosted its enterprise sales business with the introduction of chat GP. ACHPT work, a version of the popular chatbot that can carry out agentic tasks. It found everything about my day, the notes, and how to prepare for my next meetings. ChatchipT work is a text box. But this text box is way more awesome.

It's way more awesome. It's way more awesome. Exactly. And so where we want to be is you should, it should be simple. The user should not have to think about this. You shouldn't have to think about tabs or switching and shouldn't have model pickers. You shouldn't have thinking levels. Here we go.

You just have an AGI. You should be able to ask it. And in fact, you shouldn't even have to ask. it should proactively say, hey, I notice that your favorite band, because it knows you well, is in town. Tickets went on sale. I got you the tickets exactly where you want for you and your family. And, you know, I only had 10 minutes to do it because everything is going to go so fast, so I just purchased it proactively. I hope that's okay. And if you've built enough trust with the agent, so you've given permission to do that, and it kind of knows that, well, these tickets are within your price range, within your budget.

These other ones, oh, no, no, I got to get permission for that. That's the kind of system that we want. So trust is that. the keyword. So the big feature of their chat work product is that it will order just the right concert tickets for you in the seats you can afford so you don't miss out on your favorite band. And then say, I hope that was okay. Well, I trust you. Of course it was okay. Yeah. And then you always get the, oh, my bad, I'm sorry, I was freelancing. There's two things I want you to know about before we finish. There's always one thing that is load-bearing that you need to understand.

I mean, these things are so stupid. Oh, my goodness. I saw somebody post it's called AIDS, AI derangement syndrome. Ooh, that's good. Meanwhile, this is kind of relatively new. no one's really talking about it. Let me see if I can find this. Because Ukraine

is heating up. Is that war still going on? Oh, it's intensifying. Yeah. So now the Russians are hitting two types of targets in I think in Kiev.

Thursday morning in Kiev and asked Kyiv strike with a difference. Not the weapon, there are multiple drone attacks in the capital every day, but the target. By the time we arrived at the fuel station, the injured had been taken to hospital, and the cleanup was beginning. There are many parts of Ukraine, the real frontline areas, where petrol stations are a common target. There are some stretches of road, like between Denepro and Kharkiv, where there are practically none left at all. But for Kiev, this is something new, and it marks,

a new phase in Russia's air war against the capital. Friday morning, Russia hit two more stations. A double tap on this one. A drone followed 15 minutes later by another. The second strike hit firefighters. The driver of this car was also wounded. His colleagues told us he later died in hospital. Alec works at the car wash across the road.

I told people, get out of the car wash. of here, because logically, there could be a second strike. We'd only just moved over here when it happened. I don't know. This one was jet-powered. You see the shadow and immediately there's an explosion. So the gas stations or petrol stations are being blown up. That will slow down everything in Kiev. And the second target, I think, will slow down diplomacy.

Now on the program, to Ukraine, where a Russian drone has hit a train carrying hundreds of people. Two crew were killed and none of the passengers, though, were harmed. This in the southern region of Odessa. Let's speak to Emmanuel Shaz about all of this. She's our Ukraine correspondent. She's currently in the Northeastern city of Kharkiv. Emmanuel, just tell us then a little bit more about what happened today. Well, indeed, this strike against Ukrainian railway, against the train with passengers have been widely reported. We've seen on the images that, you know, the driver of the train as well as his assistant died instantly as the locomotive of the train was hit.

And, you know, we have to keep in mind that such attacks actually happen daily, occurred daily against the Ukrainian railway. There's not only passenger trains, there's also railway stations, trucks, platforms that are being hit only a few days ago. So this is the only way that... Her voice is so annoying. I know I had to cut her off. This is the only way that politicians visit the little actor is they always, the last

miles are always done by train. So now the trains are being blowed up. Petrol stations are being blowed up. And now the latest from Germany, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, left Ukraine and went all over Europe. And I have to say my friends in the Netherlands, they see it as a scourge because they get housing. They get an allowance. Oh, really?

And if they have a Ukrainian license plate, they can park anywhere they want, almost like a diplomatic plate. You're kidding. No. No. What is the point of if they, I mean, okay, I guess. All right. continue on. So they're in the Netherlands.

I mean, they're all over it. In Germany. Now, the German government has said, you know, Ukraine has, it needs more men. They've run out of men. So, yeah, we'll help you get the Ukrainian men who are in Germany. How about that? So they're going to do constriction in Germany? That's what they're saying, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Can you believe it? So this is a mess. You know, go to the demilitarized zone option. Just do it. But the Europeans, they want this. The British... Somebody wants it.

Well, they want, but they have nothing else. They, you know, they close down. They've got, okay, Germany is the engine of the EU. That's where everything. And it was a great system. We get cheap oil and gas from Russia. We build Mercedes and Volkswagen. and Audi's and we sell them back to the Russians.

And, you know, it was called the Euro loop. And the money was flowing. And then, of course, you know, oh, we got to cut it off and, you know, we've got to stop all this. So that, and oh, because of the Green New Deal, we blew up our nuclear power stations. Hmm. So smart. And all they have is war economy. And the Brits, the Brits have now said.

I have now said, we're going to call up veterans to, you know, to go for active duty. Well, I mean, you're talking 60, 65, 70-year-old guys. Yeah, that's going to be a nightmare if they do that. They don't want that. And so it's no wonder that we have big moves in Germany, particularly in the Saxon region, with the alternative for Deutschland sweeping the elections. It is a political earthquake.

The official preliminary results are in a far right party on the cusp of power at a state level for the first time in Germany since the Second World War. And the world is watching. The numbers, in a moment, our correspondent as well. First, the celebrations. A crushing victory by the alternative for Germany

or AFD, the party's co-leaders, Alice Vidal and Tina Koppala cheering on the exit polls. In the middle, their lead candidate for the state of Saxony, Unhaid, Ulrich Sigmund, the big winner of the night. And the official results. The AFD, Murdoin, doubling is last showing with an historic 43.8%. The big losers, the conservative Christian Democrats in black nose diving. They play lead role in the federal government.

Their grand coalition partners, the Social Democrats in red, scraping in ahead of the Greens and Left Party, the left-wing populist BSW in orange just making it into Parliament. So the AFD only just falling short of an outright majority in Parliament with 39 of the 83 seats. The CDU gets 15 seats. The SPD Greens and left can count on eight each BSW making it pass the 5% threshold to enter Parliament with five seats. Now, of course, it's obvious these guys are Nazis, so this is a big problem. Here's the AFD's state leader Ulrich Sigmund claiming victory.

My dear friends, this is a historic evening. We have made history. We are going to get our country back, and we start with Saxony-Anhalt, 44.5 percent. And the goal that we had at the time wasn't just realistic, it was exactly what the people of Saxony-Anhalt wanted to see. This is going to shake all of Germany. What became clear in every interview and here tonight is of course that some people are downcast. But what we've seen is that most people know

it's not just about Saxony-Anhalt. We're sending a signal for all of Germany because we found our way back to Germany and this is a self-confidence signal we're sending out to the entire country. You know, there's just something about a German speech, you know, that it just, it always makes people kind of, you know. Yeah, it's not, you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, exactly. One more clip. And what about this so-called firewall of opposition to this radical party? Radical.

Yes, exactly. The firewall is the reason why all the parties, for example, the conservatives, the Social Democrats, the Greens, the Left Party, they say they do not want anything to do with the AFD, which they consider anti-democratic. And it's coming to a point where it's becoming difficult in certain situations like now in Saxony, Janhalt, but also in other states, especially in Eastern Germany, to find viable majorities that work without the AFD. So often you see minority governments for.

with external support. But this is also a show of force for the AFD. They're trying to show that basically the others can't do without it or that it has to go ahead and govern alone. So the propaganda in Europe is so strong. Taxi Eric, this guy's been driving for me for 25 years. And so whenever we go to Holland, he's always a picks us, he still drives, picks us up.

He used to, you know, pick Kerstina up from school. I mean, he's a friend. And, and, and he is a very typical middle class, you know, worker in the Netherlands who hates what's happened, hates their government. He really dislikes the immigration agenda, particularly the Moroccans, you know, just everything. And he's like, well, you know, yeah, I said, isn't it great? that those guys won in Germany? They're doing so, well, yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's kind of scary because, you know, they, they don't, they, and he rattles

off all these talking points that makes them sound like their Hitler-Ugens. I'm like, Eric, have you actually read any of their party agenda? Well, you know, I don't know. They, they don't want, like, they only want white people in school. I said, I don't think that's exactly what it says. But maybe that's something to do with what they call re-immigration, like kicking people out, the undesirable. But whenever I say Trump, he says,

yeah, we do someone like Trump here. But that's exactly what they're getting. Yeah. Yeah, it's really sad. I'm very concerned for my granddaughter. I really want those kids to move here. Go to Nashville, I tell them. Go to anywhere.

You don't have to be in Texas. Nashville's hot and humid. I guess Texas is hot too. Yeah. But Nashville is young. Don't come to, don't come to Frederick. We're all old here.

A lot of people from Hollywood have moved to Nashville or to, what's it, Franklin? Yeah, that's the rich. Really, why are they moving there? They trying to turn that blue? No. Well, unfortunately, that's probably what would happen. Because they get sick of, you know, L.A. and California like me and then do that. And then they take the same values and voting methods.

with them and then they end up saying kind of what happened with Texas. That hasn't really happened with Texas. I mean, yes, our cities like Austin and Dallas. But that's with most cities anymore. It's becoming more and more blue. Everyone's so concerned about Tala Rico, OTA. First of all, Ken Paxson does not necessarily deserve to win. I just, the guy is just not right.

I know more about him than most people. I just like this character. I don't like him. And but you know, Trump endorsed them. But everyone's still, oh, but Talarico, we got to vote for Pakistan because Taylor, first of all, you know, every state, every country gets the government she deserves. And Talarico would be horrible. But I think, this is like Beto. Like, no.

If he's more, if he's less than. and seven percent behind Paxton in the midterms, I will be surprised. But the polling, oh, the polls, it's neck and neck race. Oh, it's all the polls. We all know that, who knows, with the polls. But that actually, speaking of the midterms, play Elon, vote safe. Elon votes safe. One of the things that we are seeing right now is the rise and Judd Legum covered this

today of the investment of Elon Musk in the midterm elections. And he has said he will spend up to $100 million in these midterm elections, which by the way, don't even start me about how that should be illegal, even though that is not, that something will have to take on that Citizens United, that's with some complications around that. But one of the things that raises, aside from the sheer amount of money that's there, that raises a huge, huge, huge red flag is the fact that one of the things he is investing in is a website that is called Votesafe.org. And it sounds fine, right? But unlike vote.gov, which is the government system that does not collect our information, according to legum of popular information,

VoteSafe.org collects your name, your birth date, your home address, your email address, your cell phone number, your IP address and location. Unlike Google. Every link you click and every page you look at. Now, why should that worry you? For a second. I left out this woman is, her name is Heather Cox Richardson. And she's doing this on YouTube and Instagram. So the irony there about worrying about data collection.

She's doing it on two of the platforms that probably collect the most data. Oh, of course they do. They should worry you partly because of the whole idea that we are, you know, we are being packaged to advertisers to sell us things. I mean, it's one of the weird things about the way U.S. advertising works is that we think we are being sold things, but in fact, we are being packaged and sold to, to people who want to sell us things.

But with that information, and one of the things that Musk has really been harvesting since Trump 2.0 is personal information, we can be targeted pretty cleanly for political information or political disinformation. So whenever you see something like this, like, you know, you want to know more about your voting, for example, or registration or whatever, make really sure that you are going to official websites and not

places like this that are collecting your information. So I'm looking at it and Votesafe.org. Actually, I kind of like this. Now, it did not ask me for my phone number. Well, right. So this is just fearmongering of, you know, there's so many things that she says in it is the hypocrisy. It makes me insane. So if she starts by, it should be a legal about you know him putting a hundred million or up to a hundred million dollars sure terms yeah and that you know well that rule would take out unions it would take out you know act blue one of your favorites it would take out uh sorrows and hoffman and uh gates um but so it's it's fine if it's on their side but as soon as it's something they don't agree with oh it should be illegal

and then she's going on like he's hacking the system you you just went to the site they apparently by you just going to the site just now they have your data birth, they have your name, your address. Did you put any of that in there? No, no. I just put in my zip code. Is it forcing you? No, zip code.

Put my zip code in. And it says that vote.gov or the other one that, oh, it's the government. So that's the only one you should use. Like they're not collecting your data and that, oh, that's safe. The other day, because it's the government. The other day. We're here to help. I was like, you know, let me check my social security status, which, spoiler alert, very

disappointing results at the end. But so you log in, the first thing you've got to do is, well, I already, I luckily had an account with login.gov. I guess I, you know, I set something up a long time ago. So, okay. So first, it needs my phone, my cell phone number. I have to, you know, do the second factor of authorization. Okay, here's the stupid code for my cell phone.

That's like, okay, to log in, now you have to scan this link on your phone. okay, scan the QR code, then it opens up a site and it says, all right, get your driver's license or passport, and then you need to scan the front of your ID card, the back of your ID card. Then you have to take a selfie. I'm not kidding. And then it takes you back to the site.

Then it gives you another code through your phone that you have to input. And then it takes you in only to find out that if I retire now, I'll get $2,700 a month. If I retire at 67, it'll be $4,200. And if I wait until I'm 70, when I'm a Walmart greeter, then I'll get something like $5,700 a month, which, of course, by the time I'm 70, will be worth five nickels.

And I'm like, what is my government doing? There's, there's, like, this authentication process was nuts. It's, because I'm, I'm over 50, down and you start looking at things like this. Welcome to AARP, brother. Yeah. So at what year, at what age if you start collecting the $2,700 a month? How many is that $62?

Yeah, 62. And then the 42 is what, 67? 67, yeah. And I thought, because I made a lot of money back in the day, I thought I would get a lot more. No. No, it takes an average over everything that you, and then I can't remember exactly how it works, but it takes like an average over what you've made and what you've paid in. It works badly is what it does.

Well, yeah. It doesn't work very well. It's like SAG. You know, I'm SAG after. And I keep sending me my retirement information. Well, don't log into it because like you never made enough money to retire from SAG after money.

No way. Go away, you. They send me big packets of information. I need a SAG after. Money they're spending on that should be used elsewhere. Well, I like Fran Dres. I've always liked her. I think she's cool.

She's not the president anymore. Oh, really? It's the guy from Stand By Me. I can't remember his name. The kid? Yeah. Really? The kid?

I think so. Oh, they should have had... Look it up. That's the Book of Knowledge. Okay. Book of Knowledge. All right. Who is...

What's his? Book of Knowledge. Who is the current president of SAG-After? And what is he known for? All right. This is a great book of knowledge question, everybody. Scribbling away through the scrolls. According to the Book of Knowledge,

the current president of SAG AFRA is Sean Aston, elected on September the 12th, 2025. A man whose four-decade acting career gave audiences beloved characters from Mikey Walsh in The Goonies to Samwise Gamji in the Lord of the Rings's trilogy. He also follows in the footsteps of his mother, Patty Duke, who held the very same. post 37 years prior.

Ah, nepotism. Thus, it has been written. I just like that the dude from the Goonies is sending me retirement information. Thanks, Goonies. Thanks, dude. You must be a guild member. Isn't it like you're producing a guy? I've had very public

I'm falling out. You're such a rebel. You're a radical. They're the best. Yeah, they love to write about me when I walked out of the PGA Awards and discuss as everybody was getting up there. just given their political speeches. And I posted about it as I got up in the middle of the left and then posted that I had enough.

You called them out on X. Well, it was still Twitter at the time. You're such a rebel you. I'm calling you out, you political nudge jobs. I love it. Yeah, I had a lot of, and if you will notice my last production critics, they did do this stupid, the PGA, they do this stupid, um, uh, asterisk. next to all the producer's name.

And that just means that... You don't pay your dues. No, that they were... No, that they were qualified by the PGA. That the PGA is... No, or it's official or whatever. So, Academy nominations or anything to do with the PGA, you have to get the asterix.

No. That show that some board said, yeah, he was a producer. And I fought them a few times. It's so aggravating and stupid. It's just their little... Fife Dome of Control. Dana Brunet, you're a very interesting guy. And I really appreciate you coming on.

But you can't go anywhere because we have to do the thing you created yourself. It is the tip of the day. Create advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes at all. All right. Tip of the day. You already gave away your Grockbot, which I think I gave you that.

Didn't I give you that tip or you were already using it? No, I was, well, you gave me the tip to use it for the clips. Yeah. Right. My tip for that was that people that are just using chat GPT or Claude should start to explore GropB because it's user friendly. Get back to the mic. Get closer to the mic. Oh, sorry.

Pulling away. Sorry, I'm an amateur. The other I have is, is Harbor Freight, which I used to call, horrible freight because it was all very cheap tools. But over the years, and particularly as I've been working on the ranch, I've started to realize the benefits of it. So like if you've got to pull an engine or you're dropping a transmission, you can get an engine crane or a transmission jack.

It's good for things like that you're not like a shop where you're going to be doing stuff all the time. But if you're in the middle of a project, you need to get a tool that you're going to use once or twice, then it's a great place to get cheap things, unlike Timo, which sends you stuff that just falls apart. You can actually see it there in the store. And you kind of browse around. They got a lot of great stuff. And I feel like I'm doing a commercial for them. No, that's what the tip of the day is. Yeah. Now realizing that, yeah. But the other is what I have a whole tool chest now full of icon tools, which is their brand of tool. They have a few different

brands that they make. And they're all made pretty much the same place. I'm sure they're all in China. But icon tools, they are guaranteed for life. Like remember Sears with craftsmen? Sure. You used to be able to. So icon tools is very similar to that. So if the tool breaks or something malfunctions on it, you just take it back into the counter. You give it to them and they replace it and give you a new one. I've done it twice with, um, with hole punches, chisels and hole punches, where I'm using around the ranch, like trying to change teeth on the bucket of an excavator

and hammering on it and broke the punch, trying to get the pin out for the tooth. And I've done it two different times. The whole set's $80 set. Let's take it back in there, hand it to them. They give me a new set and walk back out. So that's my tip of the day as icon tools at Harbor Freight. Wow.

And so what kind of horses do you have that you need to have buckets and stuff like that? What is going on at that ranch of yours? No, a bucket on an excavator. Right. What do you excavating? I have a lot of heavy equipment. I built this whole ranch. A lot of people don't realize that, but this was, it was 40 acres of raw land.

There was nothing here. And I had no idea what I was doing when I got here, but it was like a big sandbox for me. And heavy equipment started arriving, and I just started to learn to use it. And then some of that I own, I have to learn to maintain it. All right, everybody, harborfraight.com and Icon Tools is their top. That's your tip of the day. Created Fies for you and me. Just the tip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. I didn't think we were really going to do tip of the day. So I kind of wing in that one. How could you not think I would throw that at you? Of course, of course. Hey, I got a new segment. Oh, a new.

Oh, we need another created by Dana Burnetti segment. Okay. So this is show 1903. Yes, it is. What happened in 1903? You should know this. Was that the First Bank of America? What?

Okay. 1903. Hold on. I'm thinking. I'm not looking it up. I'm trying to think I should. There's something financial that sticks in my mind about 1903. Either that or it was the Great Fire of San Francisco.

Did that happen in 1903? I have no. I'm just talking out of my butt. No idea. Say, hey, what was the most significant historical event in 1903? Man, this book of knowledge is getting a workout today. Okay, Book of Knowledge. What was the most significant event of 1903?

Well, this should be interesting. Yeah, I had no idea what it's going to say. Ask the book. According to the Book of Knowledge, the most significant event of 1903 was the first successful powered airplane flight by Orville and Wilbur Wright on December 17th at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, forever transforming human civilization. and the nature of war, commerce, and exploration.

Thank you, Bork of knowledge. What was that last bit? It has been written. Forever transforming human civilization and the nature of war, commerce, and exploration. Yes, I should have known that. I should have known that. Okay. But I think there should be a historical trivia bit on each one to show.

You can at least do it until show 2027. Okay. Dana, would you come on again in a few weeks? Sure. You like, did you have a good time? As long as everybody else likes it, and long as it doesn't, the numbers don't drop off. Oh, no, no, the numbers in the tank. What is the troll count?

It's heard. Oh, I didn't do a troll count. You're right. Hold on a second. Whoa, yeah. 1,074. We broke a grand thanks to Dana Brunetti. It's slow.

You're well trained. We were in the 8-8-900, so you've definitely brought it back. Very good. Hey, Dana, I really appreciate it. It was fun talking with you. I know we talked a lot about you in the beginning. So next time you come on, we'll dive more into the news, but you have a great perspective.

You also have great stories. I really like that. It's really good. Thanks. I'll call you later. I'll call you later tonight and we'll catch up. All right, sounds good. What, did I just shut down the mic or just leave it going?

Yeah, you know, you just shut it down. You go outside. You go play with the horses and say hi to your wife for me. We love her. I don't play with the horses, but I'll go say hi to my wife, maybe play with her. All right, there it is. Tina says hi. Thank you very much, brother.

Hi, Tina. Okay. Take care, Dana. All right, thanks. Connection is protection. Dumbda-da-dum-da-dum-da-dum-da-dum-da-dha-dum-da-dha. Connection is protection from the lonely broadcast blues. We trade the screens' reflection for a real-time rendezvous, no agenda but the human one.

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Dana, I'm sorry. I'm here. You're right. He's just texted me. He said, we forgot the ISOs. And you did all that work on him. Okay. Hold on a second.

Let me see. I think I don't, oh, man. Are I still here? Yeah, you're here. You're here. Do you hear me? Yeah. Yeah.

I went and took it leaked and I'm like, oh, crap, I forgot the ISOs. Okay. Here's the, I have your four ISOs ready. And I will start. And we will start. And we will. good work on these.

These are all within the time limits. Here we go. It's the young kid. It's the guy with the beard and the fabulous black eyes. Okay. I couldn't understand what they were saying. Okay. That's no. That's no. He would not interact with us. Okay. Possible.

Let's see if you got anything better. Is this not crazy? This is crazy. Yeah, I like that one. And your last one here. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. I like this one. I think this is your best one. Is this not crazy?

This is crazy. I think that's the best one. Number 39. All right. Perfect. Thank you for coming back. I'm back out. Later, guys.

Bye. He knows how the show works. That's for sure. So we had the MTV Chronicles for episode 1902. And the artwork, I think, was better than the show itself. People just love what William St. James did. There were a couple other, like only. one or two entries.

And I also, I'm always looking for, for entries for the bat signal, so you can always put stuff in early. But this, I mean, this almost went viral with my hair all crazy and no agenda, tangled up in the hair. And then Adams MTV Chronos, it was even a little, little

like headbangers ball, like metal pin that I've got, episode number 1902. Dynamite work, William. Thank you so much. I don't think, I don't even think William, is willing let me see um is that a first time for william i'm not sure if he's done other stuff let me see oh yeah no agenda good or podcast i don't know i think that was i don't know if we if that won no no he's only done one other piece so that was fantastic really really cool

time talent treasure we always thank everybody who supports us with fifty dollars or more and This is for two shows, as promised. So there's a little more than typical. And we start off with $362 from Baron Tommy Hawk of the Heartland from Iowa City. And he actually sent this on a card, a birthday card for me, to our PO box here in Fredericksburg, 1849, Fredericksburg, Texas, 78624. But luckily, the check was made out to no agenda, so I can just send it off to Jay and everything will be okay. He says, ITM, Madam. while we all continue to mourn the passing of JCD and celebrate the incredible legacy of no agenda,

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Baron Tommy Hawk of the Heartland. Thank you very much, brother. Appreciate that. Anonymous comes in from parts unknown, $350.93, which is probably, I'm just going to guess, 33333. It says,

Carlos Alcares lost to the American at 333am. So the obligatory JCD coming in. Keep my donation. but Adam MQ9 losses are at 70%. We are pulling MQ1 birds out of mothballs. I'm pretty sure this has to do with Iran. The cost is $1.5 million for an MQ1, $14 million for an MQ9.

These are the drones. The government figured out we can identify Sam sites for cheaper. We blew 70% of the reapers to identify the SAM as surface air missiles. Guess we're getting smarter after 70% of 14 million. There's a real boots on the ground. and a did he ask for a JCD Hot Pockets? I think so.

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to rid my kitchen of ants every spring and fall. Adam Banks. I have no parts. I don't have any parts on know. 34375. ITM, Adam, thank you to you and John for all the years of great no agenda shows.

I've been listening since episode 151 where you had just read Sarah Palin's new book. The people around, as I remember at the airport, I was carrying it. The people around you got all bent out of shape at the mere mention of you taking the time to read about someone instead of parenting the media's narrative. I knew this was the show for me. Sadly, this is only my second donation.

John's passing struck a chord, not only because of the years of enjoyment, hearing him on the show, but he passed on July 20th, exactly one year after I lost someone very close to me. Thank you for saying strong and moving forward. No jingles, no karma. All right. Let me make sure I got everything set up here. Jamie Forsyth, 34375, in honor of John, no jingles, no request, no long, no, thank you. Happily joining the Colony of the Ants of No Agenda. Cheers from Jamie. Megan Klein, 34375, in honor of JCD, you are missed. A pledge to keep fighting.

the good fight in his memory against those six-legged bastards. Blessings to the entire N-A-Sphere, especially to Kurian-Divorak families. Thomas Blowers, 34375, note at Notes at Noagenda.com. Yeah, that didn't arrive because it's Notes at Noagenda Show.net, so send it. I'll gladly read it on 1904. Tim Erlinson, 34375. These are all 333.33.3 plus fees, and it's appreciated. in the morning, Adam, I am still saddened by the loss of JCD,

truly sorry for your loss. When I heard you mention the AIS ASC-Acent BX-10 Spark Workstation, another producer was sending you. Yes, the show is now partially produced by it. I figured it was time to donate again. I've been waiting to claim my knighthood accounting attached. Yes, you're there with an executive producer donation. So here's my 333333 for the order of the donation.

Back to the AISIS. I've been using one of these for about six months. I was considering sending my first one back because of the last. lackluster performance I was getting. I'm glad I didn't. These machines are great for small AI clusters. I now have several in my stack. Ooh.

I love to share some tips and tricks with you, but if you run into trouble with yours, contact information included below my daily driver model is Quen 3.627B-A3B-A3B-NVFP4. That's exactly the one I happen to be running. Take a look at it on NvidiaSparkarena.com slash leaderboard. I'm getting around 110 tokens per second, TG on mine, and it's a very capable model, indeed. The trick to get any model to perform well is to build and use a harness and deterministic gateways. I built a custom harness for Hermes, or as we say in the fashion world, Hermes.

Without those, the smaller models are incapable of running long sessions to handle complex tasks. Even the larger models don't work well without them from a brother in Christ, God bless. And I would like my knight, God bless you to you. I would like my night name to be Sir Dude Name Ben, named Tim of the Inland Northwest, no jingles, no karma. Dr. Don and Dame Audra, coming with 333.88 from Cooper Tino, California. Dear Adam, Dana, and Dvorak back office.

For the last few years, I've resorted to handing John envelopes of cash at meetups hosted by Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve, but could miss the opportunity to join the Order of the Ants and be an executive producer on an episode with Dana Burnetti, the associate executive producer who was also co-hosting. Yes, indeed. Dana, we all missed you with the last meetup in honor of John at Pizzeria Violetta.

Ah, this is who, I know who they are. I was going to give you one of the infamous Steve Jobs dollar coins, but gave it to me me because she assured me she'd get it to you. Adam, send me your P.O. Box address. I'll ship one off to you as well. 1849, Fredericksburg, Texas. Thank you, Adam, for continuing the best podcast in the universe. Dame Audra and I particularly enjoyed the episode with J-Cal.

Who knew the dweeb from Tech TV would turn out to be such a great co-host? Yes, he's coming back on the 20th and the 27th. We've continued to pray for you and your family. Thank you. Congratulations, Grand Pop, the Horowitz and Devorak families and the entire menagerie of the no agenda producers impacted by the loss of the great GACD. I've attached a rare photo of John presenting me with the PhD in media deconstruction back in 2024. It's always fun to see how people react when I, a blind guy, introduce myself as a doctor.

It always confuses and scares the hell out of him. Thank you for your courage. Kindness regards, Dr. Don and Dame Audra. And they want, let's see, uh, jingles, JCD, no sweat off my balls, R2D2 karma, and you've got prayers. It's no sweat off my balls. You've got karma. You've got prayers.

And coming in with 33333.33. It is the Grand Duke himself. Grand Duke, Sir Nussbaum. Thank you very much. And good to hear from you. Sir Justin Karsk of Jobbers Canyon, 3333. I love that Rob signs off with Long Live JCD. Proud to be a member of the Order of the Ant. No jingles, no karma, but no karma. But Lord knows I could use a double tap prayers if you got it. Sir Justin Karsk of Jobbers Canyon. He's manimal in the chat. Okay, so yeah, we could do two of those. You've got prayers. You've got prayers. Free standard of yours. Sir Luca comes in from Savosa. Oh, that's Switzerland. Yes, 333.33.

After hiding my castrating baronet status for three years because I was ashamed of it, I finally reached baron status. I would like to claim the territory of Switzerland as my protectorate, available, I believe it is. I promise I won't let Switzerland fall into the diabolic commie Nazi dark powers of the European Soviet Union that surrounds us. That sounds like a good deal. I would like to be known as Baron Trump, which will surely piss off all the libtards who will hear my name. This donation is for my 56th birthday on September 11th. Miss your JCD and thank you Adam for keeping the show going, Sir Luca. Dame Becky, Katie, Texas, 33333. And let me see,

her note here she sent in a paper note in the morning and closed the donation in honor of my smoking odd husband sir mike as we celebrate our 54th wedding anniversary on september 17th and they never had a fight i can't think of a better gift than the order of the ant we can't stand those six-legged bastards especially the fire ants here in southeast texas happy belated birthday adam we're we sure miss jcd no jingles no karma becky kenny baronettus of the great katy prayer in Katie, Texas. Then we have, let me see, absurd 10 CFR 50B, baronet of the Palus from Iowa. And it also sends a note with 333. In the morning, Adam and Dvorak clan, it pains me to think that I have delayed donating for so long.

As others have stated, I was shocked at how John's passing affected me. It took me almost three weeks to finish listening to the first tribute show due to the sorrow I felt. Hope you all find a way to continue the show. That said, I'm getting done. back on the path to my baron title with this order of the aunt donation. I request the night list to be updated to show my relocation from Oregon to northern Idaho

and dropping of my current title, Baronet of the Willamette Valley, to the new title. Regards Stu Sir 10 CFR 50B, Baronet of the Palouse. I should know what 10 CFR 50B means, I'm sure. Matthew Farrow, Leland, North Carolina, 3333, John Whidden, from, from Codiak, Alaska, 27586. Happy Bladed birthday to Adam, $62 plus $200 for the best podcast in the universe and fees. Listening from Codiac Island, home of the Codiac Bear and the U.S. Coast Guard men and women who protects the last frontier. John Whitten, retired helicopter pilots.

Thank you. Oh, there's Rob, the constitutional lawyer. Hello, Rob, from Spring Branch, Texas, $260.33. Mr. Adam, at all, please accept today's switcheroo donation. of 260333, which should be credited to my wife of 33 years, Maggie Cardi. This will bring her to Damehood, accounting below. We trust you, Rob. She doesn't know about any of this.

Uh-oh. Oh, man, how about that? So for now, please dub her Dame Maggie's secret dame of the lake. For the round table, please provide Domino's margarita pizza and Domperion of any vintage. This is where we need JCD. I would say 1996 is a good year. For jingles, please play JCD's No Sweat Off My Balls. Hey, that's the second one today.

And wash your hands, both of which I will send to Adam under separate cover, since the latter is a rare jingle indeed. To date, I've made my wife an associate executive producer and executive producer, and now a no agenda dame. Your move, Brunetti. It's no sweat off my balls. Wash your hands more often than you ever dreamed possible. Popple.

What is this? Wash your hand. Wash your hand. That was the end of show mix of it. All right. He actually sent me. He did send me those jingles. I thought I had them.

But he sent them to me as a windmail. Dot dat. Have you ever heard that? Have you ever had that happen? Thank you, Microsoft Outlook. Thank you, Rob. And congratulations, Maggie. Manuka Gold, Hudson, Florida, $250.

ITM from ManukaGold.com. Thank you, Adam. Love the print story on Thursday. We too have been to Paisley Park. Ha, definitely worth the drive from Florida. And happy autumn to our no agenda family. Just a reminder that nothing levels up, warm, spicy drinks better than our B-Well manuka honey blend with ginger, turmeric, and lemon grass.

Don't forget to use code Adam 20 at checkout. Scleazin hot sauce, Lancaster, South Carolina, 212. ITM, here's the sale so far from the in memory of J.C. bottles as promised. Wow, that's great. Plus a few bucks to get my note read. We're overwhelmed by the support we recently received from No Agenda Nation and wanted to update that only 13 bottles remain from this special offering at www.sclayzin. That's s-c-l-a-z-in.com slash J-CD for those and other fun little packaging options. Additionally, I'll take another one of those prayer jingles if you can spare it. Well, of course we can spare that. We always have that ready for you.

You've got prayers. Also, I forgot to thank Small Batch Steve from Smallbatchsteeve.com. He sent a whole bunch of his, like, taco seasoning. He has a whole bunch of interesting seasoning options. And we had it last night on our taco meat and an outstanding product. It's Smallbatch Steve.com. Calipu. Oh, this is the Calapuya Meetup.

Calapuya in Albany, Oregon, $205. I don't have a note, nor do I seem to have a meetup report from y'all. But thank you. Robert Anderson, Austin, Texas, 200, no note. And there's Linda Lupatkin from Castle Rock, Colorado with $200. She wants jobs, karma and says, hey, you know, AI can write your resume. The problem is it can write everyone else's too. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a resume that gets, results. You need to go to Imagemakersink.com. That's ImageMakersink with a K. And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes because your resume should do more than just

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and you can add your name and thank you for supporting the show. Our formula is this. We hit people in the mouth. Shut up. Now the rest of the value for value supporters, $50 and above. Mary from Escondido, California, 111, 118, and 88. Nice number, thank you. Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina, 105,

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Oh, of course, for two shows. $80.8. Once again, the Archduke of Luna, Love of America, and Boobes. And he came in a third time. Wow, thank you, Archduke. Joseph Stegman, Thousand Oaks, California with the Boob donation. There's Dame Reader from Sparks, Nevada, with $68.33. She says, thank you for your courage. Colin Schultz, Willow Spring, North Carolina, $66.40. And it says, listen to basic instructions before leaving Earth. A value for value, Bible study. podcast. IS, B-I-B-L-E, basic instructions before leaving Earth. I shall check it out, Colin. Steven Schumake, Zini, Ohio, 6480. Lester Kowski comes in twice from Kingman, Arizona, with a small boob, $60.6.6.00. Christopher Dexter 6-5-678. Brittany, Trinidad, Colorado, 5272. Luke Minnell from Los Angeles, California, 5272. Josiah Thomas, Anconi, Iowa, 51. Bad Idea Supply. nickels and 50 cents so it's not on the dime and here's the 50s grecia angel monrovia california edward mazarek from memphis tennessee stephen ray from spokane washington

roderick brown from mermaid prince edward island in canada stephen shoemake again from zini ohia with 50 tim del veckio and bland in pennsylvania gary mow from woodland hills California, Dame Patricia Worthington from Miami, Brandon Savoy from Port Orchard, Washington, and winding up our 50s, Jason Delusio, Miami Beach, Florida. Thank you all so much. This really helps the Curry and Dvorak families continue to show. It is highly appreciated and just love the fact that you continue to support everything. Thank you so much. You can go to knowagendatonidonidononon Donations.com. That's where you can support the show with any type of donation, any amount. There's multiple ways to do it. I think that may even, I think Stripe even does Venmo maybe, and you can do

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And now, let me see Where did I put these things? I thought I put them over here Where'd they go? Where did my order of the aunt go? I thought I Well, this is odd. Oh, I know what I did.

I put that on the mobile rig. Order of the ant. Yeah, this should do it. Get the order of the ant. 333.33. Order of the ant. Get you into the order of the ant. I have seen the packaging.

By the way, had a conversation with Jay, the back office. You get a certificate with your order of the ant pin. If you haven't seen them, they were in the new. newsletter. I think she may have put them on the website. Noagendarrings.com. It's a beautiful looking pin. And the certificate includes my and JCD signature. That would be the last time you can ever get a certificate with JCD signature on it. We thought about it. Yeah, it absolutely belongs on there. So congratulations. Welcome to the Order of the Aunt Baron Tommy Hawk of the Heartland Anonymous. Randy Phil, by the way, anonymous, we'll just, we'll send it to you. Don't worry.

Randy Filkins, Adam Banks, Jamie Forsyth, Megan Klein, Thomas Blowers, Tim Erlinson, Dr. Don, Archduke, Nussbaum, Sir Justin Karsk of Jobbers Canyon, Sir Lucas, Sir Mike, Sir 10, CFR 50B, Baronet of the Palluce and Matthew Farrell. All of you are now members of the Order of the End. Congratulations. Order of the End. And thank you. Again, no agenda rings.com is where you can see that beautiful people. to become a member of the Order of the Ant. And we do have one knight and one dame, so I'll grab the blade here for... There's just one blade these days.

Maggie Cardi! Come on, girl, get up on that podium. And Tim Erlinson, both of you now become Knight and Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. I am very proud to pronounce the Kate V as Dame Maggie Secret Dame of the Lake. And Sir, Tim Erlinson becomes Sir Jude name Ben, named Tim of the Inland Northwest for you at the roundtable.

We have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, Domino's Margarita Pizza, and Domperion from 1996. Along with that, we've got awesome cool goodies, redheads and ryes, beers and blunts, cowgirls, and coffin varnish, mock and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, press milk, and pabble, and of course, as always at the roundtable. We've got your mutton and we've got your me right here. And congratulations. go to no agenda rings.com, make sure that we get your ring size and an address to send that off to, and you can display that at the next meetup or just around the office at the water

cooler. It could be very fun. Thank you again for supporting the no agenda show, no agenda donation.com. No agenda. One meetup report that I could find. It is from Fort Wayne. Adam and John, rest in peace. This is Fort Wayne. We had a shorter crew of only four today, but it was a great turnout, and a few of them couldn't make it. And here we go. Hey, guys, Jared from Fort Wayne.

Hey, it's Shelly. Thank you for your courage. It's Michelle. And I suggest for the round table that as long as we've had dinner with someone at a meetup, that qualifies as meeting having dinner at someone's house and being your friend. So we have a lot of friends here today. Anyway. In the morning.

In the morning. In the morning. RIP, JCD. See you next month. Adios. All right, boys. and girls from Fort Wayne thing. I presume that's Fort Wayne, New Jersey.

The Fountains of Wayne. As a meetup taking the place today, let's see, it's underway as we speak. No, it's probably almost over. This was the Bromley, excuse me, Bromley Kent, UK meetup. That took place in Gitmo East. It's the You Sound Like You're from London Meetup.

And that was Gwuf, the cock and the commoner who organized that. I'm sure they'll send a great meeter. Report. Tuesday, we have the No Agenda, Scottsdale, Round 2, meet up 6 o'clock at local patron brewery in Scottsdale, Arizona. Thursday, next show day, the Las Vegas, FEMA Region 9 meetup at 6 o'clock, Nevada Brew Works in Las Vegas, Nevada. And let's see, also on Thursday, Edge Tavern. That's the Charlotte Thursday's monthly meetup, 7 o'clock in Charlotte, North Carolina. Coming up in the month of December, the 18th Central

Ohio to Blise, Georgia. I'm looking for meetup reports, people, please. And make sure that you also get your servers in there. It's always so much fun and promote the establishment. On the 19th, King George, Virginia, Petaluma, California and Wilmington, California. On the 24th, Alfreda, Georgia, and Anchorage, Alaska and the 27th, Longview, Texas. Feeling a dirty jersey whore will be a part of that. October looks pretty full.

November is filling up. Go to know agenda meetups.com. This is where you can find the meetups to hang out with people that you might not meet at your local bar, but you will find them at a no agenda meetup. These people will bring you connection. This is always results. It always results in protection. And the people you meet there will be your first responders in any emergency. We've had people with lifelong friendships.

People got married. We've seen kids come out of this. All kinds of things happening in no agenda meetup. Go to no agenda meetups.com. If you can't find one yourself, start one. and you'll find out how easy it is. I have to go hang out with all the nights and days. I mean, you want to be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party. I have to say, doing the donations by myself is probably the hardest part of the show, not having John here. Something about just doing it together that was special. So thank you all very much for supporting us with your value in return for the value that you received here on the No Agenda show. Looking forward to Thursday's episode. I think we'll have Sir Ducefer back for Thursday.

Looking forward to hanging out with him again. Up next on the No Agenda stream, you know, I don't know what's up next on the No Agenda stream. Oh, yes, I do. behind the schemes. There you go. In the new Sistine Chapel. Well, that's not heretical. Okay, look forward to that.

Thank you all for listening live on your modern podcast apps, which you can get at podcast apps.com. Thank you for supporting us. And I look forward to Thursday's show. Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country, where we've got wineries all over the place here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Remember us at no agenda donations.com until Thursday.

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