No Agenda - 1906 "Name Drop"

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, created by Dana Burnettie. Adam Curry. It's Thursday, September 24th, 2026. This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1906. This is no agenda. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, it is time once again for the best podcast in the universe with one of the best co-hosts in the universe.
Starting point is 00:00:22 He is former Mr. Hollywood, Mr. Rancher, Mr. Squirrel Hunter, coming up in just 50 seconds from now. He will be joining us all. His name is Dana Brunetti. Turn the knob. Click, is it on his? So now time. The No Agenda Show.
Starting point is 00:00:39 On the. The world's podfather, Mr. Adam, from his NorCal Ranch Complex, ex-Hollywood dealmaker, it's Dana Brunetti. Welcome the troll. No agenda show. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Do we do a nice job for our guests or what, man? That is just so, so nice. In the morning to you, Dana. In the morning. I'm changing the song up a little bit. Well, you get a new song each time. That's the beauty of AI. Oh, well, there's another one at the end of show, but it was three minutes long.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Like, no, that's too long. I can't be played. I'm a producer. I know what the people want. You're a producer. Not anymore. Not really. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I'm a producer of the No Agenda show. Yeah. I mean, you're texting me like, I got a lot of clips. We're going to play them all. I'm like, no, you're not producing the show. You don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, you said, who's the producer of the show? I said, everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, yeah, to some degree. So, Dana Brunetti, everybody, big, former Hollywood big way, but he's actually, he's the biggest Hollywood guy because he left at the pinnacle of his career. Everybody's jealous. Everybody's still sucking up to Harvey Weinstein. Like, oh, man, Brunetti did the right thing. He took the money and got out.
Starting point is 00:02:25 House of cards. I think it's a little hard for them to suck up to Harvey right now. True. Let me just rattle a few off. House of Cards. 50 shades of gray, 50 shades of gray, the 50 shades of all the gray. Captain Phillips, social network, all massive hits. And here he is on our No Agenda show.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Do you have no life, is the question. Not really. No. That's that's about all he's going to talk tonight, ladies and gentlemen. He's just going to give me one word answers. Yeah, I don't want to be too long wind at a troll room. We'll go off. No, no, you need to ignore the troll.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Okay. I know, I know. I'm kidding. Hold on a second. So you're like an ex, an ex-oficionado. I see, you show up in my algo all the time. You're commenting. show up in your, how, I show up in your timeline for what or I'll go, what, for what?
Starting point is 00:03:27 You're posting. That's why you're posting all the time. You got an opinion on this. And then the trolls like, you're awesome. You're like, yeah, I am. You know, it's just like, you. Do I say that? I love, I love the trolls who somehow think that these guest hosts are auditioning.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You know, they're like, well, Brunetti's got to be the, he's got to be the permanent guest host. Did people not realize that, you know, that all these people have lives and jobs? I don't. Well, you do. But I also, I find it hilarious that I saw somebody wrote that it's kind of like Jeopardy, where they're auditioning different hosts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Between me and Calicanis and Rob Do. And then J-Cal, I heard him on the last, the last episode talking about how he likes. likes the competition and he just wants to be number one. I know. He's not going to be number one of anything. I think me and Rob, me and Rob do should team up and take him. Another thing he was talking about,
Starting point is 00:04:35 which I was surprised about, that you didn't know what the 12 stations of the cross were. I did not. I had no idea. Now, why do you know? I was raised Catholic. Oh, there's still hope for you. We can still bring you back.
Starting point is 00:04:47 We can bring you back. Here we go. Yeah, we can bring you back, baby. Yeah. It's in your heart. It's in your heart. No, no. Being raised Catholic does not have anything.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It repels you. Nothing against the Catholics, but you're still a brother in Christ. You had one point you were there. You just strayed. You are the prodigal. I was not there by choice. I was there because I was forced to go to church every Sunday by my father. And as soon as I was old enough to not have to go, I stopped going.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, no, I understand. But in today's church, Dana, we got cool music. We got relatable sermons. It's a whole different deal. Look, come visit us and I'll do two things. One, you bring Alex, do two things. One. No, that ain't happening.
Starting point is 00:05:30 What, Alex? What do you mean? Alex can hang out with Tina. What do you mean that ain't happening? Okay. No, no, I thought you meant her going to church. Okay, we'll see. So the first thing we'll do is you and I will go to Ox Ranch.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Have you ever heard of Ox Ranch? No, but I feel like you're going to tell me. Yeah, yeah. bring your credit card at Ox Ranch and they have their own their own air strip so we'll get we'll get Mitch my Peridontas to fly. Oh, I can just come in on the jet. Yeah, sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:00 So once you've driven here and your Tesla and stopped eight times to, you know, recharge, Ox Ranch, you can, you can rent, you can drive all the way there and I have to stop to refuel. Exactly. You can shoot a tank. You can shoot. Oh, yeah. I've heard of this place.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You can, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've shot, you know, Uzzies and Tommy guns, and it's all full automatic, no nonsense. You will have the flame thrower. I need a picture of you with a flamethrower. I think I have one. I actually have done something similar, but I did it where it wasn't like a touristy type thing. When I was doing Captain Phillips, we used real Navy Seals. And when we were in Virginia Beach shooting there, which is very close to the old Blackwater
Starting point is 00:06:48 facility, which is at the time it was called Academy. I don't know what it's called now, but I got to go to the facility. It's called Z. It's called Z. Well, I think it was Academy. It was Z and then I think it could have they changed the name quite often. Anyways,
Starting point is 00:07:04 a couple of my buddies were Plink. And I'm friendly with Eric Prince as well. So I got to go there and do all those things and more. Well, okay. So then. So what else you got? We'll see.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And then we'll go to church on Sunday morning. You'll have a blast. Oh, okay. You'll come. I know. You'll come. So you, once, now you are, we are so similar in so many ways, which is kind of interesting, except for, you know, you were successful and I always remained a VJ.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But. I think you owned a castle and a couple helicopters and blew through millions of dollars. It's all flea. It's all flea. I think I might have just been better. I might have just been better. with the management of my money. It's all fleeting, Dana.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It's all fleeting. You can't take it with you. I'm telling me. You can't take it with you? So, um... By the way, can we bleep this out so my wife doesn't hear this? Because she'll be, she'll use that all the time. I'm not going to take it with you.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Can't... There's no editing. There's no editing on no agenda. We don't bleep anything else. There's plenty of editing. No, there's never, never, what are you talking about? I know, I know. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I've had a lot of coffee,
Starting point is 00:08:17 so I might get a little bit of, little rambunctious. That's good. So we're both nerds. We're both way into programming our robots. And I haven't listened to your clips, obviously, but clearly you have a robot working for you because you brought a lot of clips. But this is an interesting day to have you on the show because,
Starting point is 00:08:37 and most people don't really care about this, I think. Maybe California cares about it. I'm sure the Hollywood movie movie people. They care about it, but this big mega... And the liberals really care about it. Well, interesting. So this is the mega merger between Warner Brothers and Paramount. And I think the reason liberals, as you call them,
Starting point is 00:09:07 I might just call them Democrats. What's the difference? You know, they really hate the whole Ellison family. And that's probably the main reason. And why? And why do they hate them? A couple of reasons. One, Larry Ellison is a...
Starting point is 00:09:27 He's rich. He's super rich. He's friends with Trump. He's in the data business. I actually think he's an incredible douche for when he, when the Stargate program was announced. And he's like, oh, everyone's going to be on their best behavior because the drones will watch you. I was like, okay, you're a douchebag. And he's just, and he's just a, and he's just a, and he's just bag.
Starting point is 00:09:47 a huge supporter of Israel. So that's like five strikes. You're out. So they hate him for that. You want to hear an interesting tidbit from my wife's stepfather Larry Ellison bought his island from him.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Wait a minute. So Alex is the one with the money? This is interesting. Now we're getting to the bottom of things. I said her stepfather. Okay. Yeah. So she doesn't have it. And he doesn't have it anymore now because he's dead and then he left it all to some foundation. Oh,
Starting point is 00:10:22 that's what I'm going to do. I keep telling our daughters. I'm like, we're on operations. We're on operations spend down. You know, you're going to have this house and good luck with the taxes and the inheritance. You're going to leave them just a tax bill. That's what I got. My dad had a couple of loans. Like, yeah, no, I'm not going to take that. Thank you very much. So give us the layout. Why is this such a big deal? Why? Well, you come from the business. I think you saw, I have my thoughts about it. We'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I also have clips, but I'm going to let you drive this segment. Because I think it is, there is something important going on here for a number of reasons, but I want to hear your take and I'm going to let you drive it. Okay. I'm taking a wheel and put it into full self-driving. So let me back up talking about these. clips for a second. One thing I've realized grabbing these clips is this is a very difficult job because literally as I'm clipping them, the news is changing in real time, obviously.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And everything that I clipped on one day is completely irrelevant the next morning. And then everything I clipped yesterday is kind of irrelevant this morning. So we're going to kind of have to jump around a little bit. But so the, The Paramount merger, I have mixed feelings on it, but it's all pro merger. A good friend of mine, he runs Warner Brothers, which is getting bought out, but he also ran MGM and Amazon bought them out. And then before that, he was at, I can't remember where, oh, he was at Sony before that. Who is this good friend?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Do I put a name to him? Sure, Mike DeLuca. Oh, okay. Yeah. And you also ran a studio for like a week at one point. I ran a bankrupt studio. Relativity? Yeah. I came in. I think it was its second bankruptcy. And supposedly they had funding and it turned out that wasn't the reality. And I ended up being there for a couple months and then bounced. But yeah, I was the head of a studio for a very short period of time. But just go back to, I didn't even think of this. But if you just look at the two studios, MGM, that was bought out by Amazon. Prior to that, it was bought by Amazon. Prior to that, it was bought by.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Sony. It's like the red-headed stepchild. Let me ask some questions as we go along. Why does anybody want to buy a studio? I presume it's only for the existing content and intellectual property they have for the catalog. Right. And that in my
Starting point is 00:13:03 mind these days is only valuable for streaming. Well, streaming and the IP for remakes, which I'm not a fan of, but the audience seems to be a fan of. Boring stuff, right? And toys. and happy meal toys and other licensing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 If they're doing it, it's to make money. And in some capacity or another, obviously. What's beeping? I don't hear anything beeping. That's on your end. I'm getting something. Yeah, okay. That's your full self-drive about to crash into something.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No, it's a, yeah. I'm going to do the, if I do the show again, I'm going to do it from the car at some point. Okay. While you're driving. While you're driving. Because then it'll get rid of the echo as well. Yeah, it will.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's better than it was. Okay. All right, let's stay on track. So Amazon bought out MGM. That's this one reason we're talking about. Disney bought out Marvel. Disney bought out Fox. All these studios, Warner Brothers, has bought out many in the past and other.
Starting point is 00:14:06 They've all done different mergers. Sony bought MGM at one time and a couple of others. Sony bought Columbia Pictures. Was there ever, did you even know, about it. Was there ever like this much pushback? Was there people like this protesting? Were there, were the 12 states suing to stop it? No. No. Okay. So fair point. That's because people hate Ellison, but also they were, I think David Ellison, the son, was saying, well, I think I'm going to move to Nashville. Well, that only started after Bonta came after him. He's the Attorney General
Starting point is 00:14:43 in California. Correct. Yeah. And there was all the pushback on it. So, look, I still think that he's going to leave after the deal's done. I think that he would be smart to do so. I would hate it because, you know, I still own property in L.A. and live in the state and it would be horrible for the state. But the state is making it so difficult for anybody with a decent business that doesn't follow their same political beliefs to survive here.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I mean, it's happened with Elon and with Tesla. You know, that's why he's in Texas now and starting to build out there. He basically packed up and left. They still manufacture and they have facilities here. And there's been a look at the price of diesel in California. I know it's high all over the country, but Newsom drove out the refineries. And just basically like, oh, yeah, I'm going to call their, it's the place is so corrupt. It's so backwards that for a studio.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So if you think about it, so anything that they made previously, this is part of why I'm still in California, but I'm in Northern California, is because when I decided I was going to exit Hollywood, I started looking at Texas. I started looking in Florida. I started looking in Arizona. I started looking at places where the taxes are cheaper. My business manager, I think I explained this the last time, explained to me, hey, your taxes are going to follow you on everything that you've already made because it originated in California. So to say it would be true for any studio. Any profits they get from films prior to their exit, that would be at still tax in California. How is that? That sounds un-American to me. That sounds odd.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So all future earnings of intellectual property, you have to pay taxes in California? If it originated here. So like when I get my checks for films that I've done in the, passed, they still get tax. So if I was living in Texas, you know, next door to you and I got my nice check that I randomly get occasionally, we call mailbox money, it would still be taxed by California, even though I lived in, and because it was, it originated here in California. Now, if I was living in California and we do the Adam Curry film and I'm already, sorry, already in Texas,
Starting point is 00:17:07 and, you know, the 50 cents we make on that, I would have to, you know, oh, that I'd get to keep all of that. No, no, you have to give five cents to my church. You don't understand. Also, I'm taxed by the church rather than the state. You're tithing, tithing, my brother. So it would be silly for, and I think it would, if and when Paramount leaves and goes either to Austin or to Nashville,
Starting point is 00:17:34 it would make complete sense. Because if you think that if you have $100 million in profit on one film and they're paying, what, 13% in tax to the state. That's $13 million just on that one film that they're saving. And then if you put that across all the films and all the business that they're doing from that point forward and how much they end up making on that, that's a huge bit of money. And if Paramount did that, I think it would create a waterfall of all the studios starting to be like, hey, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's the same as production. And this drives me crazy, too, where they say, well, if Paramount leaves and goes to Tennessee or goes to Texas, all those people, they're not going to get up and move to Tennessee out into the sticks and move out there, these elitists and, you know, in L.A. and other places. Hello, look at New Mexico's film market. Look at Atlanta. Where did I shoot all of 50 Shades of Gray? Those all shot in Vancouver, Canada. There's no monopoly on. where you can do business and much less where you can do film. LA does not have the monopoly on it and LA blew it. And I think that's part of what they're starting to realize like, oh, hey, we don't control the town. We don't control this business.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And it's, it's, it's, I think that's part of why they have this resolution now. But I think it's too little too late. You know, the thing that surprised me when I heard Bonta speak and I'm going to just jump the queue here is that only 5% of the movies are made in California. So some more details about the settlement,
Starting point is 00:19:15 the terms. With this settlement, Paramount has made an enforceable commitment to significantly increase domestic production. Production in the United States and necessarily production right here in L.A., in Hollywood. More jobs, more economic activity, better for workers, more output
Starting point is 00:19:34 when it comes to movies. Today, we know that the vast majority of the company's global production takes place abroad, and only a small fraction about 5% only of the company's films are made here in this country, in the United States. With today's settlement, Paramount is required to move
Starting point is 00:19:53 production back to the United States by spending, as a floor, at least $300 million more each year in domestic production, in jobs, and economic activity, and productions right here in this country and including, of course, in this state. The company will also produce 30 movies in each of the first two years of the deal, then 32 movies in each of the following three years.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So it is tiered. 30 movies released in each of the first two years, then 32 in the back three. Each year, at least four of those films must be independent films to provide more variety of perspectives, more storytelling, more original, insight and inspiration from our indie filmmakers. And at least 20% of those must be blockbusters. That's the thing that got me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It has to be, how can you do, how can you predict the, like, we have clients. They'd be like, I want to pay for a viral video. Yeah, good luck. That's not how it works. It just shows how stupid they are. They don't understand what they're talking about. It's like, oh, we have to guarantee that it's a blockbuster. Well, you can't guarantee.
Starting point is 00:21:06 That's why it's called a blockbuster. It's so asinine, but it's like watching a circus. I'm loving it. And there's these people that are protesting outside of Paramount and Warner Brothers trying to block the merger. I don't know if you saw it this morning. A judge has now delayed it, but they now think that that's a huge win. All it does is it gives them the ability to be heard and they have to get their complaints in
Starting point is 00:21:31 by I think it's 12 on Friday, 12 a.m. Friday. And then so the judge can read over before she, so she just doesn't rubber stamp it. But I don't think it's going to stop it. And if you want to play the Paramount merger protest, and we can stop because it goes into a little bit of what you just play, but at least you can hear the first bit of these people whining outside. Outrage online, as well as outside the Paramount Studio Gates on Melrose.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I will never, ever work for these people. Ever. The target, Davis Ellison, the head of Paramount, who with support from his tech giant father, Larry Ellison, muscled through a settlement with the state of California over his purchase of Warner Brothers Studios and the largest merger of mass media
Starting point is 00:22:15 from film, television, streaming, and news content in the history of Hollywood. The terms of this settlement at this moment in our nation's history will be extraordinarily damaging. Opponents argue commitments by Ellison for 30 films a year and keeping the studio
Starting point is 00:22:31 in California are temporary agreements that will expire in five years and that the indebtedness of the new company will guarantee job loss. But the bigger wasn't just at the deal itself. I personally will make it my mission to make sure Gavin Newsom never becomes president. Opponents of the merger say they feel betrayed. I am deeply, deeply disappointed and pissed off at Rob Bontah, Gavin Newsom. Aaron Bass, shame at all three of them for caving and leaving us in the dust. I feel duped because I really truly believe in our attorney general Rob Banta. I drank the Kool-Aid.
Starting point is 00:23:16 This was California Attorney General Rob Banta a month ago. Okay, you can stop there. Okay. So that kind of goes into what you already played. But at least they're having some self-realization that they drank the Kool-Aid and that they were duped. And maybe they'll start to wake up to some of the other things that they've drank the Kool-Aid on and were duped on. But let me ask you an overall question. Does it even matter?
Starting point is 00:23:37 I mean, yeah, I get it for the IP and for the catalog. But the ship is saved. Hold on. Let me pause you there and come back to that because it doesn't matter. But can we can we, because I want to get it, are you going to AI? I am, well, that's, we'll get that, we'll get to that at the end. But, I mean, go. I mean, you've got stealthy, you've got Spike Lee.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You've got, you've got, go ahead, girl. Listen to Seltor on this and tell me if he doesn't sound a little bit nervous. Paramount and Warner now do expect this $110 billion merger to take effect in early October. I'm told this will not be done this week, but it will be done in the next couple of weeks, unless there's any surprises. No one's expecting that at this point. So now that the state AGs have agreed to settle, a judge will sign off on the settlement, and then Paramount CEO David Ellison will take control of HBO, Warner, CNN, and all those other assets.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm told in early October. Yeah, and there's a couple, because it's not just the movie studios, it's cable channels, it's cable networks. I mean, there's a lot in this deal. And none of that, none of that feels like the future to me. And none of it. No, it doesn't. But wait, it gets better.
Starting point is 00:24:47 So the best news has come out of this. Go ahead and play Kara. Yes. This is my favorite. In any case, no, my contract, I was just literally reading my contract today. Literally. As you might imagine when this news struck because I threatened to leave. And I have asked my agent to get me out of my contract.
Starting point is 00:25:03 It ends December 31st. So it's only a few months, right? Right. I just, I just thought, like, I was trying to figure out ways I could work with them in some, like, licensing way. But then I thought, fuck these guys. I don't want to work on them. I just don't. I got too much to do with you, Scott Galloway.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I like. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Let me give you a little insight, Steve here. Oh, he's the professor. I think there's a decent likelihood when you show up to. whoever it is you show up to at CNN and say, I want out of my contract. They jump up and say, congratulations, no problem.
Starting point is 00:25:36 No, not at all. You're wrong. I know you think that. I know you'd like to run me down. We'll miss you. No. Best of luck. No.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Maybe the Ellicence, that's for sure. But not to, no. Listen to her denial. Very nicely. They're trying to keep me. Yeah, they want to keep me. They need me. I'm important.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I'm a ratings bonanza. CNN is not a ratings bonanza. Okay. They're trying to keep it. And what exactly? is this contract. I mean, a couple hundred grand, maybe. It expires in December. It's a couple months away.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So it's like, please. Yeah. And this is a clip that I found. I don't listen to him. I guess it's like a sports guy, but Clay Travis, I think he sums it up nicely and it will He took over for
Starting point is 00:26:20 Rush Limbaugh with the other guy, Clay and there's two guys. So he's a big radio guy. The 12 Democrat Attorney Generals who had been opposing the merger between Paramount and Warner Brothers have essentially announced, hey, we're giving up. And they have agreed that Paramount is able to buy now Warner Brothers. Why does this matter? David Ellison, who is going to own a combined Paramount and Warner Brothers, has said something
Starting point is 00:26:49 radical. Hey, I want CNN to just be a middle of the road news network designed to actually cover in a factual and truthful way. You can't have that. Hallelujah. This is significant. Okay. Twitter being bought by Elon Musk, I believe, was the most significant media move of the 21st century. Because all it did was just make Twitter fair.
Starting point is 00:27:17 You can go find whatever news you want on Twitter. You can see us talking about anything under the sun. It just stopped it from being a far left-wing news organization. The reason why these 12 Attorney Generals were suing was because they didn't want CNN to be a fair news organization because combined with Twitter and CNN and certainly Fox News and the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post and Outkick and Sport and State. If we just have a lot of sports and cultural news organizations, it makes it far harder to rig the game like MSNBC, the Washington. Washington Post historically, the New York Times and CNN have done. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Doesn't it only we care. They're message setters. That's about it. They just set the message. They create clips that we can share everywhere and either love it or laugh at it. Right. And it's CBS News. You know, that's a part of the deal.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You know, that's already become so horrible. It's so horrible. It's always been horrible. I don't think it got any better with Barry White. Well, other than the Democrats hate it now. So all of that said, and I want to circle back to that in a second, about something he said there. But finish up with where there's two more. Play the last bonta one, the antitrust.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Oh, hold on a second. Antitrust. Yes. At the end of the day, though, this was an antitrust case. Plain and simple. I have said before I'll say it again, this is just a black and white. meat and potatoes, antitrust case. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:02 That is such BS. This was nothing but political. Everybody knows it. If it was just an antitrust case, why did they resolve it? Why did it get settled? Nothing is different. The things that are in that resolution,
Starting point is 00:29:17 30 films a year, that's nothing. Warner Brothers is already doing over 15 a year, so is Paramount. And then they can also just buy films and they even pointed out independent film. So they can go and buy the Adam Curry film that we're going to do and give us $5 billion for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There we go, right?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Don't move. Don't move. Stay in town. You got to do some deals. Yes. Well, and that's kind of thing. I'm not in town. I live in Northern California. I'm very far away. Your car will drive you there. But 300 million doesn't seem like a lot of money in movie business. I mean, it's not scratch. 300 million. I mean, there's been film budgets that have been that high, I think.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and the penalty if they don't meet that, it's 30 million per film. So what they're going to do, it's actually, I think it's great for smaller films because if they have to do that, they're going to just buy up some films to meet that. They're not going to pay 30 million from them. They'll buy them for a million or two million and be like, oh, there's stoned theaters and see what happens. Or this. I think that people are looking at. the settlement that Robanta got and not super thrilled with it. For instance, the big point about they have to release 30 films a year in theaters,
Starting point is 00:30:34 if you look at the fine print, they do have to release 30 films, but they can co-produce half of them. So they only really have to release 15 films on their own, and then they can co-produce the other half and get those in the theaters to satisfy that requirement. Ultimately, Jeff, this is going to result in a lot of layoffs in the entertainment sector. and that's going to happen because there's going to be a lot of synergies between Warner Brother Discovery and Paramount, the back offices, you know, people who support communications and publicity, people who support HR jobs, legal jobs. Those jobs, I would imagine, would be almost immediately consolidated and you're going to see a number of layoffs. And then it's going to just continue.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah, exactly. I think that's a horrible argument that they keep using. And, yeah, of course there's going to be layoffs because it's a consolidation. but it's also if the two studios are struggling or it's like okay so we're going to have we're going to have all these jobs but the business is going to struggle the better the business that can do the more the more jobs it's going to create the more productions it's going to put put off then I think it's just the survival of the fittest but in California survival of the fittest is racist or it's you know it's it's it's whatever it's like you know we got to you know everybody's got to be equal and And we can't have that. But I'll end it. And then we'll kind of divert into. But again, the wisest guy, just like when I was doing the Clacy Lancy, the holdout juror,
Starting point is 00:32:08 the wisest guy is always the black guy. Play Spike Lee. But the Warner Brothers thing? I ain't got nothing to say about that. I got to make some of movies. if you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, that was... I know what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:32:29 He's no dummy. He's like, yeah, I'm not going to be bitching about Paramount or the Ellisons and basically remove myself from one of the... So they're worried about, you know, they're only being four studios or five studios, whatever it is. But like, oh, wait, you want to come work for us now and you were the one out there protesting trying to stop his merger? No, no things. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Spike Lee's no dummy. So we'll take it to the end game here. this came from CNBC. AI getting in on the movie making business production company Fountain Zero releasing its latest AI film this month, Odysseus the Fall. It was produced at a fraction of the cost of traditional big budget films by using artificial intelligence in every scene and image. Media mogul and CNBC contributor Tom Rogers is the executive chairman of Fountain Zero. Tom is also senior advisor to our parent company, Versant Media, and the former NBC cable president friend of the show as well. Tom, always good to see you.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Thanks for having me. We've talked about this movie before. We've shown clips. It's extraordinary. I don't know if ordinary people would see it and think this is AI generated. What have you found in the process of doing this, though, in terms of how the movie industry will be changed by AI? Well, when I was on last time, we showed video from our first film, which premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival called Dreams of Violence. This is a two-and-a-half-hour spectacle, Odysseus, the Flore.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Odysseus the Fall, which is another way of telling the story of the Odyssey. And what's remarkable about this is that it was one guy with his computer working at night for just under $25,000 that created this film. Now, I'm not saying anybody would like it quite as much as the Nolan version of the Odyssey, but when you look at this, you're looking at the future of filmmaking and how big budget Hollywood productions can be done at a tiny, tiny fraction of the cost. All right, Dan Burnettling. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:33 So there was a post that I saw. There wasn't a clip. And I don't know if it's true or not, and I reposted it, that it would be a game changer if so. But it's the AI studio for, uh, Grock, I guess. Yeah, I saw that you, this is one of the posts I saw. You said, if true, game changer.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Well, that's true. Yes. It says the pitch, you pitch a brief, you brief a director, it writes a script, casts, takes cuts,
Starting point is 00:35:07 timelines, bullets, and posts, directive videos to worry, broadcast, basically soup to nuts. So here's where I think the few, are you ready for this? This is my prediction of the future
Starting point is 00:35:17 of the entertainment. All right. Go get the kids, everybody. Here he comes. The future, you're going to sit in the not too distant future. You're going to sit on your couch at night and you're going to have your bot and you're going to say, hey, I have 33 minutes to watch a show. And it's going to give you a list of options. What would you, a comedy drama or a, because it's going to know you already.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Do you want to continue this show that we were doing? Do you want this character? How would you like this character go? And then you're going to have different things that you're going to. to select and then it's going to render out a show that fits into that time period that's going to be tailored and customized just for you and the same thing is going to be for films or a TV and film is just going to blend into one and it's going to be based on what you just ask it for and that's going to happen a lot sooner than people think I think you're completely right and I'll
Starting point is 00:36:14 just give you an example uh I woke up like two Two weeks ago, I was like, you know, there's this story I read as a kid, which was, now the original, so it was Enid Blighton, the land of far beyond. And the book was written in 1942. You know, Enid Blighton wrote a lot of kid stories. I forget which ones, but, you know, certainly in Europe. But I read it in the States. My parents gave me. We talked about this on the last show I was on.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Did we? Yeah, and then you had it read it to you. Well, yeah, but just, okay. So it's, and it's based on the Pilgrim's Progress, which is from 16. 78 public domain. And I'll just reiterate it because a lot of what you said it already happened. And I said, I want to turn this into...
Starting point is 00:36:57 Oh, you're trying to take credit for this idea now. Yes, of course. I'm the podfather. So I said, okay, I initially said, I want to turn this into a movie. So give me cast. I didn't even say that. You said, let's do that. And it created cast.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It had cast cards, I guess, is what they're called. So I had a card for each cast member. It had names. It changed the story, you know, so that the idea was the same, but it wasn't blatant rip off of anybody. And the story is, you know, it's a biblical story in disguise. And I actually loaded a model here locally to have it start render stuff. That it was, okay, you know, wasn't that great? So I said, well, let's just do an audio drama.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's unbelievable. It did all of it. All of that stuff it did. Now, it didn't just, you know, magically appear while I'm sitting on the couch. But for sure, that's where it's going. But won't that, you as a movie producer, won't that just, won't that become boring and dull where there's no serendipity and your control of everything and there's no surprises? Well, I'm not really in the business anymore.
Starting point is 00:38:07 But as a consumer, stop, okay. But as a consumer, I think it's fantastic and amazing. It's like, it's, you could ask the same thing to a coder. like when you're vibe coding all the things that are running your system right now and you could go to a coder but doesn't it take away from that and ability well yeah there's there's a true art and talent you nailed it no you're nailing it you're exactly thank you you my friends who are excellent software developers who by the way of two friends I have they've kind of they've waved the white flag on this they were struggling they were hating it they're like
Starting point is 00:38:43 yeah and meanwhile I'm like I'm like that cat hammering the keyboard. I'm like creating so, yeah, you're, okay, point, point made, point taken. I've created stuff exactly the way I want it. If I want to change it, I alter it. It's not quite the same as a movie production, but your point, I think, is well made that I. But aren't you getting much more enjoyment out of it because it's something you did that you? I am. And it's unique to you. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I am. But I also know what I want and I know what works. And I don't know if I, I guess if I said I want a surprise twist ending, you know, like the dude's a girl, you know, something like that. What was that movie?
Starting point is 00:39:24 What was that movie? Put some DEI in this. What was that? What was that movie where everyone was like, oh, I can't tell you the ending. It was about 20 years ago. It was the Chinese woman and she turned out to be a dude. Like Madam Butterfly. The crying game.
Starting point is 00:39:41 The crying game. Thank you. There is. Spoiled it for everybody. I never saw it. I've known about it. I never saw it either. I have no desire to watch this movie.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah. Okay. So where does that leave us? Our movie. We're just going to do it on our computers, right? Are you talking about the out of your story? The Adam Curry movie? If we don't do this in AI, we're nuts.
Starting point is 00:40:05 We are both idiots. But can we still get the $5 million budget? We might be able to if we work fast enough. We only got a few years where they have to make they have to do 30 million or 30 movies a year for right was it the first two years and then 32 we got five years we got five years yeah so we might just make it we'll have this thing done in five months what are you talking about this is a five months at the speed of AI right now and it's quick as it'll be done in and five weeks if we really if we really buckled down yeah wow what a what a world we live in dan brunetti what a world we live in it's exciting I love it But I am going to become an AI dumer where the speed that this stuff is moving is fascinating. And we are in early, early, early days of AI.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So can you imagine in 10 years where we will be with it and what it will be doing? Maybe. This is the thing I'm not so sure about. I think this whole slowdown is they've reached peak model. And I don't know if they can. Well, the new models. day. Yeah. It seems like something, there's something going on where, I mean, you've seen the upgrades. Like, oh, now we have, you know, Opus 5.5.5. What's the difference? Just cost less. Okay. 20% less cost. But it's not really doing. Yeah, but they all have, it's like a new iPhone every, you know, every year.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Well, you're making my point for me. It's boring. There's nothing new and exciting about a new iPhone. Oh, it folds. But, but, okay. But if you take it, if you take it, if you take it. If you take it back to the iPhone 10. I don't even know what generate, we're 18, I think now. If you go back to the iPhone 10 and you hold them side by side, it's like, yeah, but it's incremental small little things that an iPhone today compared to an iPhone four years or five years ago is, it's tremendously better and so much different. But it's so, it's such small, subtle changes that are made over time that AI is doing that but it's doing it
Starting point is 00:42:16 so much faster. It seems like there's a new model that comes out every other day. And if you're not eating, living, and breathing AI, you fall behind. Like, we were just talking about Grockbot the last time I was on the show and how amazing that is and it still is and I think it's incredible. But now if you look at the app store, the number
Starting point is 00:42:32 one app in there. Muse. Muse. And Grochbott is like 168 or something. I think Muse I got Tina on Muse yesterday. I said, you know, because Tina's all, whenever, here's how Tina, Tina is my canary in the coal mine. I've told the story a couple of times. She'll say, why would anyone ever want to?
Starting point is 00:42:54 And her history is, why would anyone ever want to use an ATM? That makes no sense to me. The second one is, why would anyone ever want to make a phone call from the street? So whenever she says, why would ever want to, I'm always delighted. and like, oh, this is going to be a big success. And I finally... Wait, explain that again. Why would anybody want to use an ATM?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Do you're saying it or Tina saying that? Tina said that. She said, back in the day before I knew her. Like, I was the person who said, why would everyone use an ATM? Makes no sense. What would you use then? Why are you trying to be logical about this?
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's the whole point. I'm just, I'm confused. Why would you ever want to make a phone call from the street? You know, so you and I understood it. We're like, I'm in my car. I'm a baller. Look at me with this big brick against my head. Of course.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So she really didn't think much of the robots. But then I said, you've got to try muse. Please try muse. And it was fascinating watching her. Because I only got muse the other day. And I like it because it's, first of all, it doesn't talk to you. It's a text, it doesn't a text thread. It's not trying to be your buddy.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's not sucking up the whole time. It just does stuff. And it's the same basic concept. as Manus AI or Grockbot where you have a computer in the cloud, which of course is an abstraction and ultimately, you know, that's all going to come to your device. So that that's what you and I are talking about. But for Grockbot comes to your Tesla now. So it's quote unquote normies who will, like, oh, I can use this. And I saw her, you know, she needed to, she wanted to do price comparison for some plane tickets to New York. And she's like, wow, this is really cool. Then what she did next. So
Starting point is 00:44:37 someone had given her a dress and it didn't it was if it fit or not was not the point it just wasn't a lot of yellow and greens like now I'm not going to wear this um but it's a designer dress so she took a picture and she said what is this thing worth well between four and eleven hundred dollars and and so can i sell it somewhere yeah here's consignment shop now now she's understanding how cool this is and you know doing arbitrage between different services which of course is immediately what Amazon is, this is the stuff that I love, Amazon is realizing like, holy crap, we can't have this thing connecting to,
Starting point is 00:45:16 connecting to Amazon because now people are going to be able to compare us and shop and we're going to lose sales and lose the opportunity to flash other things on the screen while you're shopping. I disagree. I think that that'll be, it'll be advantageous Amazon because it'll increase sales. It'll help people discover things that they wouldn't have necessarily known about or been able to access before. From other vendors.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah, but Amazon, I mean, you want to talk about monopoly. Amazon has the monopoly on it just make it so easy. And I mean, I get agitated. I'm like, what do you mean? I can't get this tomorrow. I got to wait until Saturday to get this. Do you know who I am? I'm Dana Burnett.
Starting point is 00:46:00 No, but it's, I'm a. I'm on a ranch in the middle of nowhere, and I can get pretty much anything next day or even deliver between four and eight, which is a problem for Amazon, particularly in the area I live, because I think, and here's another horrible prediction from me, somebody's going to get shot because they show up at four in the morning at my front door dropping a couple of times. It's startled me with the dogs going crazy. And so anyways, I digress. So I was looking at some videos of Zuckerberg selling this thing. I'm like, okay, before I even got it, like, show me what it is. And I hear Zuckerberg saying, this is superintelligence. Now, there is a term out there called artificial superintelligence and artificial general intelligence, and all this nonsense. And I was like, okay, they called super intelligence.
Starting point is 00:46:55 But then I heard our president at the United Nations. The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globalist scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now, here and after officially called super intelligence, changing the name, and that the use of the word artificial makes intelligence fake. It makes it sound fake, and it is not fake. It's actually... He kind of has a point. No, he's perfect. Amazing. Amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports. From this point forward, all of United States documents,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and hopefully the worlds will be changed to use the much more accurate term, super, as opposed to... I'm surprised he didn't call it American intelligence. I'm surprised he didn't call it Trump intelligence. T.I. Exactly. That would have been so much better. But this was a big conversation over there with the muckety mucks at UN, and no one, including the president, really understands
Starting point is 00:47:59 Today, the Security Council held its first ever UN General Assembly AI meeting, including warnings from American AI leaders. No one person or company or country should be able to use the most powerful AI models to impose the But in this chamber, the flawed, but still only international body whose resolutions are legally binding, it fell to the co-chair of the UN's independent AI panel, Yashua Benjillo. To warn the world, it must police AI companies and issue a country. Clarion call for collaboration. Today, a handful of companies and countries are acting in their self-interest by taking reckless risks with humanity's fate.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Our future, all of us, our future is at stake. Decisions that affect us all should be made by us all. No. The choice is still ours, but we must act now to correct the trajectory. What country is actually? What country is that guy from? Not the U.S., though, right? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Is he from China or any country? Is there a large language model or an AI company that is a frontier model coming out of his country? Hold on a second. Give me a moment. I'll tell you who that was, who was speaking. That was... The answer is no. No, no, the answer is no.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Because if it's not the U.S. or China, or, Is there another country I'm not thinking of? Somebody correct me. The control room can correct me. What countries control or have the companies, because I know Canada, they were sticking their nose in it, and they don't have a company with a frontier model that I'm aware of. So it's anthropic, open AI, grok, deep seek, and then all of the Chinese companies, from my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Now, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. So are we going and telling the French how to make wine? Well, apparently they need some help because the wine sales are down. They're transition. They are big time in transition. So now, of course, not a single – you and I have a grasp on this, and I'm always dismayed and kind of sad at people younger than me, and that's pretty much everybody in the troll room, how anti-AI they – I'm sorry, T.I.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You and I just call T.I. I think Trump intelligence is great. How anti-Ti – They are. Somebody says Canada has AI. A.I. Eh. A. I. Eh? A. I. Ned. Ned. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 It's like, no one really understands it. No one. And I was, except for smart political people. And the. Which ones are those? Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon is, he's, he goes where. Oh, now you're really doing it.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Now he goes wherever the wind blows, but he knows how to leverage any kind of conversation for political gain. And so he organized this. this humans only conference or for humans only. And, you know, the fact that, you know, so they had Bernie Sanders there, Greg Kazar, who used to be a city councilman in Austin and is like a communist.
Starting point is 00:51:20 He's a horrible man. Yeah. He's a horrible man. And also there was my representative, who I've always had some issues with. He's a nice guy, but I'm like, eh, Chip Roy. So Chip Roy, he goes on CNBC of all places, Chip Roy. And here's some of what came out of it.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Lawmakers are debating how to handle the risk of AI after stark warnings from our tech leaders. Our next guest just spoke at the Pro Human Assembly. Oh, pro-human assembly. There you go. It's a division of the Human Fund, I believe, of George Costanza. No, the Pro Humanists are urging Congress to take action. Good line from Joe. I love Joe.
Starting point is 00:52:01 He's great. Join us now Texas Republican Congressman. Chip Roy. And Congressman, I saw you, we were together. I saw you in makeup, which I'm not afraid to say. I saw you just briefly. And so it was a Bernie Sanders was there and Steve Bannon, and you were there as well. They were making the rounds today.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And I immediately, I wasn't criticizing it, but I started needling you a little. Making the rounds today is Bernie Sanders six years ago at the debate. Yeah. climate change at that point. Six years, we're toast. It's making the rounds on social media. I don't know how we want to regulate that, but you want to regulate AI like Bernie Sanders wants to, if Democrats take the House, these are the people you want regulating AI. Well, first of all, we don't want Democrats taking the House.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Second of all, I don't want to regulate anything. I'm a free market conservative. I'm a limited government conservative. What I want is our answers. What I want is for the big tech companies who are sitting here saying, oh, my God, we've got to do this to beat China. And all the people in Washington saying, we got to do this to beat China. Yeah, where are the big tech companies right now? They're giving China the very
Starting point is 00:53:09 technology that they're using to beat us. So you can't have it both ways. So this is so typical. Oh, now it's China. And Trump does that too. China. I don't want China. I can't have China accelerating. So. What's wrong with that, though?
Starting point is 00:53:24 With pushing back and saying that we don't want China taking a lead. because it's bull crap. You and I are taking the lead. We've got this crap running at our homes. It's like China, make a model. Please, just make more models. You spend the money.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I'll use it. It's the garage bands that are going to, this is the new punk rock. I agree with that, but it's, it's, I think that we should, it could be any industry.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We shouldn't scale back and let another country like China. They're not going to. All they want, they don't want to scale back. that's that you know you understand this that they're not going to scale back anything they want protection they want um you know i i have a clip for that go do a i jensen my boy i'm curious to know your opinion why you think there are no missing parts when someone like a dario amade or a sam altman is saying we'd like to see regulation i think
Starting point is 00:54:26 I think what I was responding to is in the case of both of the labs, one lab had four incidents, cybersecurity incidents, triggered by them. Another one just had a couple more. And so before, and both of those incidents has plenty of laws to deal with. You have cybersecurity, unauthorized entry laws. you have damage liabilities, you have all kinds of liabilities associated with cybersecurity. You have all kinds of liabilities associated with products. And so if your product does harm, if your product doesn't perform as you promised,
Starting point is 00:55:09 and if you entered into contracts with companies for service-level agreements, there are plenty of laws associated with that. My point is, apply those first. And don't let this doomsday narrative. cause somebody to relieve them of the laws that currently exist. Now, go and read between the lines. There's a lot of, they're actually not asking for more laws. They're asking to be relieved of the laws we do have.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And I think that that's a problem. We have plenty of laws. So let's apply those first. Yeah. Now, I'm all in with Jensen. I think he's absolutely right. But that's not what those guys are doing. Let me get back to the pro-human conference.
Starting point is 00:55:51 By the way, I'm in a troll room, I saw you said 62 versus 55. Yeah. Aren't you? No, you're thinking of J-Cal. He's 55. How old are you? 53. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Okay. Age discrimination. Well, it's DEI, baby. We want to get young people on the show. So there was one, they invite, only one person from quote unquote industry spoke at this conference. You've probably met him, Jared Lanier. You know who he is? Yeah, he's the father of virtual reality.
Starting point is 00:56:25 He's got dreadlocks. He's probably 350 pounds. Lots of hippie silver rings and bangles and stuff. You know, visionary, wears shades. You've never seen this guy? Why would I have met him? Because you hang out with weird people. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You're the kind of guy. I don't hang out with anybody, man. What do you mean when I was hanging out with Elon? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was hanging out with the heart of yours. That was when I lived in L.A. This is the California people.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You never know. Anyway. I don't leave my ranch, man. So Jaron Lanier, I think is how he pronounced it. So he spoke at the conference and he had only four points to make. Dude, they tried to play this guy off the stage. They were throwing up the music. They had the moderator on the stage, nudging him off.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I cut most of that out because it's just annoying. And I actually had my robot remove the music. in the last clip because they were just fading up the music. Get him off. Give him the hook. We can't have this guy saying this. And the things that he said, I think were spot on. There's a kind of a pseudo-religion, or maybe it's even a full-blown religion, that what's going on is we're creating this new successor species, this new super-digital god, this new super-being that maybe is better than people.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And the only thing that matters is creating that and nothing else really matters. And you've seen many video clips today of people from our community talking that way. Like Peter Thiel, not being quite ready to say he wants people to survive, or the co-founder of XAI saying, well, we'll all die anyway. And say, well, how can they do that? Why would they want to do something? And it's because of this compulsive religion thing. Now, the thing about that is you might find it surprising occasionally when they suddenly agree with
Starting point is 00:58:18 something that seems reasonable. So in the last couple of days, we've seen some of the AI lab leaders say, yeah, a pause, we're into a pause. Now why? It's a funny thing. But within our world, as long as the way, if you frame any kind of reaction to AI or any kind of concern about it in a way that emphasizes how intensely cool and powerful AI is, then it's all right. Do you follow that? So in other words, if you say, oh yeah, it could kill us all. It's so powerful. Yeah, we should pause it. The key part there is that you're reifying, you're reinforcing this idea that there's a super being. As long as that's the foundational message, then it just sails through. If that message is contradicted, it will not. It won't even be heard. Okay, so you need to understand
Starting point is 00:59:14 our culture. You need to understand our language. And that's why the pause is suddenly a thing. Exactly. Marketing thing. So now he brings in China as you know compared to the so he he's my whole problem with this is how it was introduced and that was I think a lot of people are probably mad. I think Elon is probably mad at Sam Altman for bringing in the chat bot which had this illusion of oh this is a real thing because we've been so pre-programmed by movies and television. Oh, if it's talking to me then obviously it's a little bit of a humanoid. That's even Why would he be mad about a chat bot when there's a humanoid coming? Yeah, okay, I'll wait for that.
Starting point is 00:59:56 All right. So this is something that breaks the touring test. You know, the touring test is if a computer can fool someone who's thinking that it's a human or it's a real being, then you have, you know, you've broken through the, you've completed the Turing test. And he brings in China here. And I think this is important to understand how China operates versus the United
Starting point is 01:00:16 States. Because we have this intense compulsion to create this new life form, to believe we're creating the new digital God, we are urgently always trying to make it seem alive. And another way to put that is we're trying to pass what's called the Turing test, which is where you could fool a reasonable person into treating it as a living thing. And so we don't just present a tool that answers questions. We have to present a chatbot that seems to have a personality and has like a character. and gets to know you and remembers you.
Starting point is 01:00:49 They don't just get voices. Like in the old days in science fiction, before I was born, robots and AI used to have voices that sounded like robots and AI, so they were distinguished. That was better, but no, no, no, no. We're trying to make them sound like Scarlet Johansson or whatever. And so, why? Now, I want to point out something that I think is kind of important.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That's a good point. A lot of the argument for going full more ahead, even if we say we might kill everybody is that China compete. But have you noticed something interesting? When China makes a model of a given level of performance, it comes out cheaper than we do it. It's cheaper to make and cheaper to run. Now, I have a theory.
Starting point is 01:01:32 But they have less regulation and slave labor. No, no, no, no. That's not the point he's going to make. When he starts making the point, they start. Yeah, I don't think he's making that point, but I'm just saying that's why. Because you interrupted the clip. That's what the Paul's button is for. You're like Devorak now.
Starting point is 01:01:48 He says, horrible. Wait for it. Oh, God. Oh, hey, wait. I got some. He has a bell. Now you're a podcast. Wait, wait.
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Starting point is 01:02:18 I have DeVorax Bell. You have... Did you buy it or was it given to you? It was sent to me by Jay. Wow. She sent me a box that arrived yesterday. Her and Mimi, they sent... Do you have the slide whistle?
Starting point is 01:02:34 I don't. But I have the train whistle, the Laser Tools Corporation, a print cache. I have a... I'm not putting this thing on my mouth. the blue midnight Mathis Honor made in Germany
Starting point is 01:02:49 Oh, harmonica. And then I have this pig that you squeeze it. And what else? Oh, and then the country cow where you turn it over and you get a little cow fart.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Nice. Yeah, it doesn't work very well. But I think they're just trying to clean out his office and get rid of friends. They're just shipping stuff to people but I did get the bell and this bell. They told me that it was grimy and dirty and they weren't kidding. This thing needs a cleaning, but I'm going to leave it.
Starting point is 01:03:23 It's got Dvorak sap all over it. That's nasty. It does. Okay. So now he's going to make a point about China and they're going to start playing him off and I have one more clip after that. A lot of the argument for going full bore ahead, even if we say we might kill everybody, is that China compete.
Starting point is 01:03:42 but have you noticed something interesting when China makes a model of a given level of performance it comes out cheaper than we do it it's cheaper to make and cheaper to run now I have a theory for overall why that is it's because we add all this overhead
Starting point is 01:04:00 for the digital god illusion that makes everything more expensive and over in China they already have their alternate god which is the Chinese Communist Party they're playing him off they're freed of that expense I think that's so true. Like, this is exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I thought that was something playing on my computers. They literally were just playing him off. It's like he's in an award show. Yes, like exactly. Off the stage you go, because he's making a point that, hey, China is doing better not because of regulations. They're doing better because they're not putting all this overhead in to make it your buddy and it loves you and it talks to you. It has a personality. So the music.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Okay, that's true. Let me play the third clip. Go ahead. Okay. So this had music underneath it, but it got so loud that I had to demuck it. That illusion is expensive. That's the thing that hurts kids. That's the thing that creates addictions.
Starting point is 01:04:53 That's the thing that creates political distortions. That's the origin of the deep bake. That, like, there should just, it violates multiple principles. It's fraudulent, intrinsically. Like, why do we do it? It's expensive and it's not productive. Why do we do it? We could stop.
Starting point is 01:05:14 We can present all the functionality, all the cancer cures, all of the help that we promise without the illusion of these fake people. Now, if we implemented these four things, would that guarantee safety? No. But these are all achievable things that would get us much closer and they're specific. So the music was so loud at that point. It was just, it was so rude. But I think he makes the point. And this is why they want, get out, get out, get out, get out.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You're breaking the illusion. You're breaking the illusion that this is dangerous. And we have to have regulation or slowdown or nationalize it or whatever. That guy. And Pastor Jimmy and I talked about it yesterday. And we get to do this as a whole God angle to it, which you don't have to repeat here. But this is the core problem of what is happening here. That's it.
Starting point is 01:06:06 He nailed it. Okay. And so if we just stop. being so crazy about making it like her. Yeah, okay, but let me push back on that. By that logic, we would still be, our computers would all still be in DOS. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Why? Because the voice makes it accessible and to a lot of people that might not mess. It's a parlor trick. Yeah, but you know what? this folder that's sitting on my desktop that looks like a paper folder that could be considered a parlor trick by that logic there's no evidence anyone will ever use a mouse don't you know that by now and it's true because we're going to stop using the mouse is what the thing that bugs me though is oh wait till we get to the tip of the day well all the you know all the all the the people are
Starting point is 01:07:06 back on television tristan harris you know he was the the the guy like oh the algorithms are killing our kids. And why his name isn't Tristan, I don't know, but it's Tristan. Tristan Harris. He's doing the rounds. Renee Deresta. She was the one, you know, fighting disinformation and democracy. Now she's all of a sudden she's at the George Washington at the, was it Washington University.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And now she's in charge of large data model, blah, blah, blah, blah. All these nut jobs come out again. it's just so annoying what is happening where this is I'm with you this is so punk rock if you do this stuff yourself and you mess around with it and you're going beyond what they're trying to fence us into and the only logical legislation logical the only legislation i think they could come up with because you know well we have to all these rules for the road and um you know who is this this this this guy russell he's a professor um yeah but i But getting rid of the voice chat and that aspect of it, I think, I feel like it's two different things as far as the, what the government wants to do to regulate and as what as far as what the companies are doing, building out like a voice chat or what that guy was talking about.
Starting point is 01:08:31 I think that's different than what the regulations that we're talking about. No? Or what am I confused here and what the point is that you're making? Okay, so there's two points. The regulation always goes to we want a world government. That's what all these people are trying to do. Yeah, that's bad. We want a world government to regulate it.
Starting point is 01:08:50 So Trump's not going to let that happen on his watch. It could happen with President Newsom. But what's that have to do with how the AI companies are, for lack of better words. If we wanted to accelerate with what you can really do with these models, you wouldn't spend so much time on their digital God imagery of making it sound like a human and act like a human and having a personality. I disagree with that part. That's the part I disagree with because if they didn't do that, like if it was just in, otherwise it's just for nerds like guys like me and you that are digging into it.
Starting point is 01:09:31 No, but Zuckerberg is proving it. Muse doesn't have a personality. it just does what you tell it to do. Yeah, but it's got the cute little icon on it. It's got a piece of Play-Doh up there. It doesn't look like a human. But if it was just a black and white typewriter text thing, Tina wouldn't be using it.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah, no, she hated that part. She's like, what is this gobb-goo at the top of the screen? That's my point. No, she doesn't, okay. Oh, she didn't like the cute little icon at the top. She doesn't want any of that. She just be a robot. But okay, so what if it looked like the troll room and it was just black and white?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Hell no. I delete it from my phone right away. No, I'm talking about the look and feel. No. What I think they're going to go for in America is a license, like a driver's license. That's where this is going to go. You have to be the responsible human being. You have to take a test to be able to, because, you know, there's nothing else that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:10:35 than that. And this will be the digital ID. That's where I see this going with all these legislators. To use AI, I'm sorry, I'm not following it. To use AI. In order to use AI, you'll have to have like a driver's license, like a pilot's license, like a gun license. Like all. Write that right that down. Write that down in the red book. Yes. Fishing license. This is what this is what we're good at. Make everybody or you have to be responsible. You have to go. and take a test and you have to do this, you have to do that. That is the only, they'll never go for, you know, I guess like a section 230, you know, whatever. Like, we're not responsible. None of that's going to happen. They're going to put it back on us.
Starting point is 01:11:22 They are. Yeah, you can put that. You can put that in the book. All right. I think that's a little far-fetched, but I like where you're going. Anyway, you and I are the punk rock of AI, my brother. If you say so, I mean, I, I, I, I think. I find technology and the stuff super interesting.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I'm always fiddling around with it. I don't ever master it. I'm a jack of a lot of tech trees, but a master of money. You've gone pretty far. I mean, you're stringing things. Just so you know, he sends me screenshots of his surveillance cameras and says squirrel detected. So you can go out and blow the poor critters brains out with an air soft rifle.
Starting point is 01:12:02 What are you talking about? I would never do such a thing. You're a hater, man. You hate squirrels. You're a squirrels. You're a squirrel hater. I don't like rodents that chew my wires. No.
Starting point is 01:12:13 All right. Since you're a rancher, since you're a farmer, let's talk about diesel for a second. What are your, has it, has it ruined your life, the diesel prices? I meant to send you a photo. I took this morning when I was going to get a coffee. It's $8.50 a gallon here. And you have farm equipment, though, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:35 But the one saving grace, not it's really saving grace, is I get red diesel, which is, you know, it's the same thing. It's less taxes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's about $2 cheaper a gallon or $1.50 cheaper a gallon. That's pretty interesting because red diesel is, I think it's the same all around the world. And so the news reports always talk about, oh, it's $8 for diesel, but they're not giving the red diesel price, which is also high. Well, because because you can't use red diesel.
Starting point is 01:13:05 on the road. I know, but it's only for off-road equipment or... They use it in the same story about the farmers. Oh, the farmers. Oh, but they definitely have a super deal. Yeah. Yeah, but it's still, but it's still the price of red diesel isn't flat. So when you see the diesel at your normal gas station that going up,
Starting point is 01:13:24 the red diesel is going up is just as much. But, you know, it's still, you don't have the tax on it that you do at the station. So, but to your point, I have, I have two, uh, two, four, 50. two big Ford F450s that we use for hauling trailers, horse trailers, and dump trailers, equipment trailers. And then there's all the tractors, the farm tractor, the bulldozer, the loaders, all of those, those all use diesel. Luckily, most of the construction on the ranch and stuff is done.
Starting point is 01:13:53 But now, you know, it's still, it takes a hit, but the 450s are sitting part. Both of them, you know, on like a half a tank, I'm not taking them in. I'm trying to wait as long as I can. and hopefully the, I thought over the holiday memorial, or excuse me, Labor Day holiday, I thought that's why they were high. I thought they would drop after that. They didn't. They just continued to climb.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And now it looks like they're going to continue to climb until at least the election. But yeah, they're sitting around, but I know you hate this. But my cyber truck, that thing is, I have 38 kilowatts of solar. I have six power walls. My ranch is practically off grid. I don't even get my trash picked up here. However, I do have to haul a dump trailer to the dump, which costs me with diesel now. But the cyber truck is, that's what I jump in.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I have a Jeep and things I use as ranch vehicles around here. But if I got to go into town or go to Home Depot, I jump in that thing. No, it's basically free for me. It's always wonderful to hear a millionaire say, hey, you know, it's not too bad. I'm pretty good. It's all right. That's not what I said. I got solar panels.
Starting point is 01:15:04 That's what I'm saying. This is my translation. But the president and Buffalo Bessent, that's his new name. Now I got that from Chris this week in Bitcoin instead of General Besson. Now it's Buffalo Bessent. They already have a trick up their sleeve. It's called for a ban on diesel exports, temporary bans. What?
Starting point is 01:15:25 A ban on diesel exports. Chuck Grassley called for the same thing. Mike Rogers called for the same thing. Is that something you're considering this? Well, I've called for that, too. I've said, let's not send out the diesel. We make a lot of diesel. That could have a little bit of an effect on regular automobile gasoline,
Starting point is 01:15:41 because when you do that, you know, it's sort of a flow, it's a balance. No, not. I've called for it. I've called for it within my people. I've been talking about it. Scott, do you want to talk about that for a sir? Yeah, we're examining that, whether it's feasible in terms of the overall refining capacity, and whether a full or partial ban would work.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Is there a timeline for it? Fast. One way to the other. If I do it fast, this would be an interesting thing to do to ban the export of diesel. Just sell it in the United States. Well, yeah. I mean, if it's going out of the United States, particularly places like California that the diesel refineries have been running out of the state.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yeah. Yeah, keep more of it here rather than sending it out and let that be their problem and not our problem. but I don't think that'll, I mean, unless they ban it, the gas companies aren't going to do that. I mean, that's a lot of money for them to ship it overseas. But, yeah, I think that would be great if they could do that. They're going to do whatever the executive order says. Well, yeah, that's why I, yeah. Yeah, you can do it under Defense Production Act.
Starting point is 01:16:50 There's all kinds of ways you can do it. There you go. Here's CNBC with an interesting take. Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry has an idea on how to lower. fuel costs writing on X. Let's lower some fuel costs now and help the entire U.S. economy with
Starting point is 01:17:05 the administration and Congress issuing a 90-day ban on U.S. diesel exports and making the small refinery exception permanent. Governor Landry joins us now this morning. Governor, good. We got the cameras going. It's good to see you.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I thought we were going to have to do it on the phone. Good morning. Good morning. In a nutshell, Well, sometimes I wish we could just keep all of our oil here and have our own prices here. Because a lot of what we're seeing, since it's a global price and it's fungible and oil goes everywhere, we are stuck with whatever the global price is. What you're trying to do here, it sounds like, you know, don't do, don't export diesel.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Would that actually work and we'd have much lower prices here? or would it just disrupt, it just seems like it's swimming uphill? Well, look, there are a couple of things that we can do long term to make sure that we don't get in this position again. And then there are some things that we can do immediately that will give Americans some immediate relief. Look, putting in place a 90-day export ban certainly would create a supply of diesel in the country
Starting point is 01:18:21 which would cause diesel prices to fall. I mean, right now, a record amount of diesel. is going to Europe and Americans are subsidizing Europe's problems and why because Ukraine, because of war in Ukraine and issues in Iran and Europe has done nothing to help America in either one of those two positions but yet. Yeah. I thought I'm like yeah, screw the Europeans. Now wait, who is that? The governor of Louisiana, Landry. I'm voting for him. And I don't even live in Louisiana. He also said something else, the conversation,
Starting point is 01:18:56 just quick throwback about data centers, and I'll just play that because it was worth it. You know, Governor, the AI data center football is now, you know, being kicked around by both Democrats and Republicans.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Is it fair to say that you would welcome data center investments in Louisiana? And sometimes I think about There he has. Some areas and not... Yeah, he's very pro, listening.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Picking on Louisiana, but some parts of the country where jobs and revenue and the economic benefits of this investment just seems like it's so far outweighs where some of these communities are right now. It's very strange for me to watch what's playing out at a lot of these town halls. It is. It is a paradox. And unfortunately, I don't think the American people are digesting all of the information. I mean, look, nothing against golfers out there, but golf courses use 40 times more water than data centers. That's what I'm going to use.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I love that. 40 times more. It's probably true. Did you see the construction site for SpaceX in Louisiana, the 440-acre construction site? Oh, it's massive. Yeah, it's massive. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:20:17 And it's like Louisiana, this guy, he knows what he's doing. doing. Louisiana, what I was speaking about earlier, there's a lot of film that shot there because they gave tax incentives to bring the film industry there because they understood that when you can bring in a large industry like that, it creates jobs and creates a bustling economy. Meanwhile, we have Abbott here in Texas. He's like, well, you know, we should probably have to do a survey, blah, blah, blah. It's the whole thing is about the midterms. But I want to move back to Europe for a second because, well, here we go. Yeah, I'm getting legit concerned now about what these crazy people are doing.
Starting point is 01:20:59 They so desperate. And there's people who have theories about it being, you know, we need a financial reset in Europe and they need to get rid of all of their debt and they want to turn everything around. The things that they actually accuse the United States of like, oh, before you know, it'll be a digital dollar. I think they're doing that in Europe. and they desperately, desperately, desperately want a war with Russia. And I have this report from the BBC that just anyone living in Europe, you should be outraged.
Starting point is 01:21:30 NATO faces the most dangerous complex security. I have to say something about Marguerite. I just need to remind everybody. He was prime minister of the Netherlands, you know, unmarried, no children, probably gay. We don't know. Not that the Dutch would care. a nerd. He literally came from human resources at, what's the soap company? A Unilever.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Soap and Papp's Blue Ribbon, everybody. Nice. He literally came from, from HR at Unilever. And suddenly he's prime minister. The guy is no good. Nobody ever liked him. He's wimpy.
Starting point is 01:22:13 He's soft. But now he's Mr. NATO. He's a sales guy for our stuff, obviously. He's doing a great job with that. But just whenever I hear, I'm like, ah. So he's selling war now. There is a real risk that drones or other types of projectiles will enter the territory of one or several countries on the eastern flank.
Starting point is 01:22:33 And this was a scene in Poland earlier on Thursday, air raid sirens after a Russian attack near the border with Ukraine. Let's not forget that there is, you know, there's assortes, there's sabotage almost every day. There is this background of a real concern given the escalation. of Russia's full-scale invasion, of Russian aggression in Ukraine, that it could spill over into Europe. Is Russia planning to attack a NATO country?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Trust me. No. No. Of course not. Not a new question, but it is something more and more people are asking now. How likely is an attack from Russia? What would it actually look like? And why are we talking about it now? Well, over the next 10 minutes, we'll answer all of those questions. But first, here was a warning. from Poland's Prime Minister, Donald Tusk. There is a real risk that drones or other types of projectiles
Starting point is 01:23:27 will enter the territory of one or several countries on the eastern flank and even cause destruction. And the official narration will be that it's an accident and there is no reason for NATO to think about a response. The goal, as evidenced by an analysis of Russian actions to date, is also to undermine NATO's integrity and, above all, to convince NATO members, states, as we have already seen happen, that Article 5 is more theoretical than practical.
Starting point is 01:23:55 In other words, the premise is that no one would be willing to die for Latvia or Lithuania when faced with mere incidents rather than a formal declaration of war. So note the scary music, by the way, that is supposed to give you some tension there and your nervous system. A couple more clips here. Well, the warning came as a massive attack on the western part of Ukraine, very close to the Polish border, took place with Poland repeatedly forced to scramble its aircraft. Well, Donald Tusk isn't the only European leader warning about Russia. President Macron also has been sounding the alarm.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Of course, in recent weeks, the threat, in particular the hybrid Russian threat to Europeans and to France has intensified. I want to say here that the nature of Russian aggression and its threats in Europe is changing. The drone attack on a passenger train from Kiev a few days ago. The attack or attack. attempted attack at Leipzig Airport, which failed. So they keep bringing this up. So there was a drone at Leipzig Airport.
Starting point is 01:24:54 It didn't detonate because, of course, Russians don't know how to do that. But how big was this drone? Was this like a DGI? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, it could have been some kid that was like flying it around. Exactly. This is the whole point.
Starting point is 01:25:07 There's no evidence. They haven't proven that it was Russia or that it was Russian explosives. Nothing at all, but they've just turned that message into, well, the Russians tried to blow it. Leipzig, of all places. Leipzig Airport, really? I mean, you go from Munich maybe or Frankfurt, but no, Leipzig, okay. The firing of flares near a Danish figure, incursions into airspace of several European countries, and the increase in hostile acts in most of our countries. The head of NATO, Mark Rutter, says the use of drones along Poland's border with Ukraine
Starting point is 01:25:40 shows that Vladimir Putin is becoming increasingly desperate. It's clearly an example of increasingly reckless behavior by Russia and its president, but also evidence of him being increasingly desperate. He's desperate, he's going to, so desperate. He knows and sees that he's losing over 40,000 of his own people. Yeah, what are you losing over there? That was seriously wounded a month leading up to the 1.2 million. The Russians have now lost or seriously wounded since the start of the war.
Starting point is 01:26:13 evidence that we have to be serious about what Russia is doing, but also acknowledging that this is desperation. It's also panicky. It's panicky. It's panicky. It's panicky, I tell you. So they have this calendar. Now, there's been arson in different European countries, and they're pinning it all on Russia.
Starting point is 01:26:33 So apparently now, instead of, you know, having people run through the streets and from house to house to find the terrorists who are committing this arson and doing all these in. NATO country terrorist attacks. They're just using it to make you believe that Russia is doing it. Well, the warnings come after increasingly hostile rhetoric from Moscow and what appears to be a sabotage campaign across Europe this summer with military and defense sites as the prime targets. Listen to this, Danny. You'll appreciate this production.
Starting point is 01:27:06 On the 4th of August, the first drone carrying an explosive device at Leipzig Airport in Germany is discovered. Six days later, a major fire breaks out at a defence warehouse in Bulgaria. Previous blasts at the company's facilities were investigated for links to Russia. On the 13th of August, a fire at KNDS ammo outside Rome triggers a large explosion. The local prosecutor is looking into outside interference. Two days later, a robotics factory in Tallinn that supplies drones to Ukraine goes up in flames. On the 25th of August, an arson attack on a Ukrainian-owned drone manufacturer is narrowly avoided. And on the 30th of August, two more fires are reported in Poland.
Starting point is 01:27:46 One of them was an attack on a drone producer. A masked man was caught throwing incendiary devices on CCTV. The Polish Prime Minister called it a continuation of Russia's escalatory activities. A month after drones packed with explosives were found at Leipzig Airport, Germany declared that Russia was responsible. Putin, as always, demanded proof and his officials called the accusation absurd. I thought this was dynamite. It sounds like a pitch for her. movie it's like a beach shape exactly and they got the two voices going back and forth and they
Starting point is 01:28:18 mentioned the Leipzig drone twice like yeah yeah that's good that's good okay who's going to play put that in there still one of my directing still one of my favorite movies is um wag the dog wag the dog which de luka oversaw that oh really your your boy deluca yeah he was ahead of a new line when that movie was uh made it still holds true i mean and still so good. But this is the Poland playbook. Where have you heard that before? I'm trying to think, was it 40, 1940 maybe?
Starting point is 01:28:49 It's like, we've heard all this. And so now we go to Fifi Lagarde, who runs the European Central Bank. And she slips something in, you know, they've been talking about the digital euro, the digital euro, which they desperately need the digital euro to reset their whole monetary system. Just declared bank,
Starting point is 01:29:11 bankrupt and then here's your digital money. This is what they accused Trump of doing, which he's doing the stable coin gambit, which is something different. It's, you know, expanding our debt to the rest of the world with here's your dollars. Here's your digital dollars. It's not even going to be for us. It's for the rest of the world. But Lagarde is teeing up for this. And I mean, my daughter's in, in Holland, so I hope that they don't have some kind of kinetic war breaking out. And it probably won't be, but they're really pushing it. And they're going to have to have some kind of event to bring in the digital euro, which is already here now today. Expect a few things and to explain a few things. So what did I announce? I announced that on
Starting point is 01:29:55 Monday, the 21st of September, it will be the close of the survey that we have launched about three months ago now for Europeans, including Irish people, please, to express their views about the future banknotes that we will have throughout. A little snide remark there at the Irish because the Irish were the ones who voted against the Lisbon Treaty. Yeah, hello you Irish. Remember we made you take
Starting point is 01:30:23 the Lisbon Treaty vote over because you voted wrong, please. We don't want to have to do that again. For Europeans, including Irish people, please, to express their views about the future banknotes that we will have throughout Europe. This is Monday, end of the survey. You still have a chance
Starting point is 01:30:40 to actually express views as to which series of banknotes you are looking forward to. Now, this is very interesting because first of all, I looked at the banknotes and you essentially have two choices, one with European luminaries on it, like Michelangelo, some other woman who I couldn't recognize from the picture, or birds. Literally, your choices are birds or people. but when you introduce new banknotes, you know what has to happen? The old banknotes have to go away.
Starting point is 01:31:15 This is not lost on me. This is a way to finagle the money. It's like, well, we got to print new banknotes. Well, what is new banknotes? It's printing money. So new money has to come into the system. They've done this several times. They've done it with the Deutsche Mark.
Starting point is 01:31:31 They did it with, well, they did it with the Euro in general. Everybody had to get rid of their guilders, their francs. And their pounds. No, no. Oh, yeah, that's right, the Poundstead. No, the city of London never did that. They're not going to give up their pounds. No, no.
Starting point is 01:31:46 That's their financial power. They never did that, even though they joined the European Union. But here it comes. Announcement number one. Announcement number two, Monday, 21st of September, we will launch Pontes. Now, Pontes is, to summarize it quickly for you, it's digital euro made available for banks so that they can transact amongst themselves using tokenized assets and distributed ledger technology. Complicated on the face of it. For them, it's rather simple and they know that
Starting point is 01:32:20 they can operate faster without friction and that it's a journey that they have to embark upon. Not at the end of the journey, we continue to work and more will be developed, but it's beginning on Monday. There you go. Digital euro is now being used between banks. So that's it. They're ready. Beginning Monday. They're teeing everything up. And the question is, when something goes down, when there's like, okay, this was Russia, clearly, they attacked us. This drone that has Russian letters on it.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Is the United States going to be asked to jump in under Article 5 of NATO? Which I think Trump would say, no, I don't think so. No. At least I would hope he wouldn't. But I'm, yeah. I am concerned about it. I'm really, I'm concerned that they're, they're just going nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:18 I've got nothing else to say on that. All right. Well, ball is in your court, in your half court, sir. It's in my court. Where would you like to go? Would you like a more politics? Lesbian mask man. Hello.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Hello. All right. So let me tell you about this. Oh, man. I could not. See, I don't listen to the clips. And I'm like, okay, lesbian. mask ban, that's got to be something good. And it's only three minutes long. So, okay. All right. So let me
Starting point is 01:33:44 prefaces. I could not find a clip on this. I saw it. There was a couple of other podcasters that talked about it. But this one sums it up the best. It was an article in the Boston Globe, I believe. And I apologize. Oh, no. You didn't have an AI read it, did you? No, I didn't do that. No. Thank God. Thank God. But it is a TikToker or a YouTuber. or something. And we can stop through this because I think we need to laugh a little bit, but it just shows some absolute lunacy. So go ahead and play it,
Starting point is 01:34:18 and then we can interrupt it or just let it roll. There is a lesbian bar who for the last six years has required N95 masks. And they just announced that for one night a week only, they will be lifting the mask mandate to instead allow for optional N95 masks. They announced this on Instagram. It is with love. we informed our immunocompromised disabled divas that we will be opening Saturday nights as mask optional. And their patrons lost their ever-loving minds.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Just say you're complicit in a mass disabling event and get over with it. People like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience. Hope your venue gets firebombed for robbing my fellow immunocompromised people of their Saturday play. Yeah, this is great. This is great. So does this not sound similar to the Paramount clip, the news clips, Ifully, where they're now attacking Newsom and Bonta and Karen Bass? Yeah. And so they're starting to eat their own.
Starting point is 01:35:20 So continue with this because they're now, so as you see, this was a, I don't know if she goes into it, but the place was losing money. And so they was like, okay, let's one night remove the mask so we can get some more customers in here. But continue. And just to scrape extra revenue from ableists, I guess every lesbian in the greater Greenfield, Massachusetts area is also disabled and immunocompromise. People running the bar start getting accused by their own customers of being eugenicists. Say cave and apologize as one often does to the woke mob. But meanwhile, this town hasn't reported a single COVID case in months. Their apology, while demanded, was not well received.
Starting point is 01:36:04 and they got angry that this post on Instagram was not properly captioned for people who may be visually impaired. There was a whole new round of allegations. It sounds like a Saturday Night Live skitter parody, but this is all real. It just shows you the insanity of some of these people. Keep going. This is Massachusetts. It gets better. They bring in a therapist.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Keep going. It is the unbelievably woke three individuals who opened up this bar. One of the trio is a. drag performer who uses it its pronouns and envisioned a bar for transsexual gender freaks, workers and their friends. Notably, the police
Starting point is 01:36:46 are not welcome inside of this building, but poor and unhoused people are welcome and they decided that you would never be turned away if you couldn't afford anything. So incidentally, there are now tens of thousands of dollars in debt. One of the founders has now left to pursue an education
Starting point is 01:37:02 in clown school. It is literally preferable to become a clown professionally. But the one founder who still is remaining decided to try to appease their customers. So she hosted a three and a half hour meeting where angry customers could come and voice their concerns mediated by a licensed therapist. There were people who called in virtually to the meeting and she says we really want to prioritize the people who are here. And because the therapist said that therapist was then accused of being ableist. It's messed up that the mediator is dismissing those attending virtually. That's not
Starting point is 01:37:35 accessibility. Not only was the therapist ablest, she was white, the biggest cardinal said off. I'm hearing a white therapist centering the feelings of a majority white and white adjacent staff. What is white? Hey, hey, we are non-practicing whites here, the no agenda show. So we take offense
Starting point is 01:37:51 to this. And they remember, this mediator is a licensed therapist, which makes her a mandatory reporter in situations like assault, which basically makes you a police officer, so evil. All this, because it is now optional one night a week in the year of our Lord
Starting point is 01:38:07 26 to wear an N95 mask to a communist lesbian bar. You know, I got to tell you, I'm still amazed when we flew to Holland this last trip and we were, no, we were in Holland, I'm sorry, we were in Holland and we wanted to fly back and we're looking
Starting point is 01:38:23 for the KLM lounge. And this guy from Austin, because of a direct flight to Austin, you know, we're looking at the information thing and you scan a QR code and it was completely useless. And he comes up and he's wearing a mask.
Starting point is 01:38:39 He's like, are you looking for the fun of lounge? Yeah, yeah, we're looking for the, you know, I couldn't remember. And so we found it, but we just walked fast away from like, what is wrong with you? And there's so many people
Starting point is 01:38:53 still wearing masks in Austin. It's crazy. I think some of them wear the mask just to hide their ugly faces or that they don't have to like do their makeup or whatever that they just kind of... Not this guy. Not this guy.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Yeah, yeah. No, I think the majority of them still are deathly scared of COVID. Yeah, it just shows you the media op of how well and how effective it was. It has people completely, as she said, in 2026, we're still have people masked up. And it's not just on the left. This is from Fox. This is that Dr. Siegel, who always used to be on with Tucker. And listen to this about measles.
Starting point is 01:39:40 A 40-year-old Pennsylvania woman is the latest to die from measle complications. Measal complications. Okay. How many people have died of measles and they're making such a... Oh, it gets so much better. It gets so much better. The spotlight on the risks of the highly contagious virus. The CDC says more than 3,000 cases have been reported nationwide this year,
Starting point is 01:40:01 with some who were vaccinated, even testing positive. Health officials are urging people to know the warning signs and to make sure they're protected. Know the warning side. Like dots on your face? Warning signs. Here to discuss this on Medical Monday. Medical Monday. Who!
Starting point is 01:40:18 Hey, created by Dana Burnetti. Senior medical analyst, Dr. Mark Siegel. Dr. Siegel, great to see you. Good see you. Why is this happening and why is it so contagious? Well, it's over 700 cases in Pennsylvania alone. over 3,000 cases in the United States over the past year, we're going to lose our elimination status,
Starting point is 01:40:37 meaning that we could spread cases here without it being traveling. That's what's happening. The reason it's happening is because our overall vaccination rate against measles is dropping down. It's supposed to be 95% or above in order to prevent spread, because not everybody can get the vaccine. Immunic compromised. What? Why not? Pregnant women, very, very young children can't get the vaccine.
Starting point is 01:41:00 So you have to protect them by having a ring immunity around them because this is the most contagious respiratory virus on the planet. Most contagious respiratory virus on the planet. The vaccine. How many people have died? This one lady apparently. Is 97% effective. Oh, here we go. It's 97% effective.
Starting point is 01:41:23 So if everyone would take it. Did she have the vaccine? Do we know that? Who? The lady? No. The lady who died. Wait for it. Second clip coming up. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:41:32 But what is alarming, four fully vaccinated people tested positive for measles, three adults and one child. This is so alarming, fully vaccinated, safe and effective, yet it's not working. What's the point if these people are getting, what's the point of the vaccine if they're still getting measles? Well, I'm glad. Oh, I'm glad. Hey, there you go. What happens if you're fully vaccinated and you get the measles? I don't find that alarming. I'll tell you why. It's not alarming. As long as you're vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:42:00 It doesn't matter if it doesn't work. I'm not alarmed by that. I just need to get vaccinated. Oh, that's okay. Yeah. They're in the 3% that aren't covered. That got it. It didn't quite hold.
Starting point is 01:42:11 It didn't quite hold. It didn't quite hold. It didn't quite hold. This is so good. This is so good. The good news is they're much, much, much less likely to get severely ill or to get Oh. I have to.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Yes. A deja vu, man. Yes. It almost sounds like Fauci. Yeah. You won't have to go to the hospital. hospital you won't get severely ill you'll still get it because you know vaccine is supposed to like inoculate you but no hospitalized they're just going to have mild cases almost across the board so the
Starting point is 01:42:40 vaccine does something but it doesn't prevent them from getting it does something yeah it puts money in the pharmaceutical industry's pockets but it does something in that three percent those four people so fewer complications if you are vaccinated are we seeing anyone dying from the measles if they're vaccinated and they get it are we seeing anybody dying buying from the vaccine. Thank you. That can happen. It can happen, but you know,
Starting point is 01:43:06 you don't have to go to the hospital. It's not going to be a very severe case, but it can't happen. From the measles, if they're vaccinated, can they get it? I haven't seen that. That can happen. Again, you could have an idiosyncratic reaction, or you could have really be immunocompromised.
Starting point is 01:43:21 And you might have had the measles. I wonder if they wear a mass lesbian bar. But still get sick when you're immunocompromised. Very unlikely anyone. would die if they had this vaccine. I'm a huge proponent of this vaccine. Yes. We can tell that. A huge proponent. I know you are. It would be devastating if your child died.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Oh, here we go. This is... Now it would be devastating if your child died. He teased her up. She punches at home. He teased her up. She punches at home. I know. I know you are. It would be devastating if your child died and you didn't vaccinate your child and your child got the measles and died. How old does a child need to be when they are eligible for this shot?
Starting point is 01:43:58 Well, they get it around the age of one. then they get it right before kindergarten the second shot. So that's the whole thing. We put emphasis on getting that second shot before kindergarten. 93% though with the one shot. No. 97% of it. One shot's only 93%. 93. It's a 4% difference.
Starting point is 01:44:15 You gotta get two. Effective with both. Should we start vaccinating? I'm sure there's a reason we wait until they're one years old, but could we vaccinate earlier there? Yeah, jab him early. Right when they're born, right out of the womb. Right into that soft spot on the top of their head.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Jam it in there. Why wait until they're born? Let's do it in the womb. In the womb, yes. Nine months and above because we have to wait until the immune system is built up. Right, right. You know, and a lot of this is occurring because people don't understand how long this vaccine's been around, how safe it is, and how dangerous measles can be. One out of five unvaccinated people end up in the hospital from measles. And that's a problem. You can get pneumonia. Yes, sir. Oh, want somebody blame? And just as an honorary nod to JCD, we will play The Brady Bunch gets the measles clip. Hi.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Peter. From school. They sent me home. Measles. See, their measles are a strange case of red freckles. You have got a temperature. They told me, 101.1. What's the record?
Starting point is 01:45:24 Never mind. Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile. A great big smile. No school for a few days. Pay hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later to you.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Okay, honey, bye. Boy, this is the life, isn't it? Yeah, if you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine. Inside or out. Like shots in me. Don't even mention shots.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Yuck. Measels. Measels. Well, all the kids have now had the measles. So have I. Well, I had them years ago. Looks like the Brady's are finished with the men. Measles.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Hold it. You're not through yet. Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles. Oh, I hope so. I'd hate to think I was just learning out of blush at my age. Man, where did we go wrong? They're even saying, who wants a shot? No one wants a shot.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Ew. No one wants a shot. This is, we've gone nuts. Completely nuts. Where do you want to go next on this? Let's stay with medication and, GLP1. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Does it need set up or is it self-explanatory? There are now dozens of lawsuits filed in the U.S. against the makers of OZMPIC, Wagovi, and Zepbound, claiming that these GLP-1 drugs led to a rare type of vision loss. And one complaint, a 53-year-old Pennsylvania woman says she was prescribed OZemPEC to help treat her type 2 diabetes. She alleges that within six months, she developed vision loss in her right eye, and as a result struggles to perform daily tasks like driving and reading.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Novo Nordisk, which is the maker of Ozempic and Wagovi, said that they take all reports of adverse events very seriously and push back on the claims, saying the personal injury lawsuits filed in the U.S. are without merit. Eli Lilly, which makes upbound, said patient safety is the top priority and actively monitors, evaluates, and reports safety information. Now, the medical evidence on this is mixed. Mixed. Mixed. There may be a small increased risk for people with type 2 diabetes. to develop a vision problem if they're taking GLP1.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Literally, GLP1 was literally designed for people with type 2 diabetes. This is great. There may be a small increased risk for people with type 2 diabetes to develop a vision problem if they're taking GLP1s, but it didn't prove. You can stop it there. So do you think that it's people with diabetes, they've been taking it longer than everybody has been taking it for weight loss, right? Let me just tell you. Suits and Boots.com.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Rob the constitutional lawyer has is part of these lawsuits on behalf of his clients. Some of them from no agenda, actually. So if you have experienced vision loss, go with the guys who will get you the most money. That's right. They're talking big bucks bonanza. Go to suits and boots.com. Wait, now how much is J-Cal getting per commercial six grand? Can you believe?
Starting point is 01:48:30 I believe it. I'm sure it's true. Yeah, I believe it too. So Rob, the constitutional lawyer, I think he has a bill coming to him. No, no. Because that was a great read. No, he does free work for me. You know, all my lawsuits.
Starting point is 01:48:43 He takes care of it. You're family, Curry. You're family. We take care of you. You're family. I got to, I thought Rob Dew was, and him were the same at first. The same person. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:56 If they had a baby, that would be fantastic. For sure. For sure. Apparently it's possible. Men can get pregnant now. Yes. I know. But is Tina talking about like peptides?
Starting point is 01:49:09 Because I've noticed this with all women, they're like talking to each other like it's Botox and all the other that they're always going around. Like they want to get there. And I'm constantly complaining to my wife. Do not do that. Don't do it. I am so with you. So yes, it goes like this. Because of course, all women do Botox.
Starting point is 01:49:30 And is literally their boat. Not Alex. She did it one time. Her lips blew up. And I said, see, I told you. She's 12. Stop it. She's not that young.
Starting point is 01:49:38 She is a lot younger to me, but not that young. Well, Tina would be the first to tell you she's been doing Botox for 20 years. And, you know, she snagged me. So good job. But it is literally, and these Botox ladies, you know, they're in hair salons. They're all over the place now. And they're the one saying, oh, you know, I've got the triple G now. I've got this.
Starting point is 01:50:00 I've got the, you know, the, what is it called? Like the vampires. It has all these different names for it. And I know friends of ours, like, oh, yeah, no, we're just microdosing it. Okay. Well, that's... Microdosing. Was it shrooms or weed?
Starting point is 01:50:15 Microdosing it. But they get, well, you know, we get it from this person. That person's brother is a doctor, so it's all okay. I think this is the most dangerous thing ever. Yeah. And Tina won't do it. She's like, no, I'm not going to do any of this. Even though she's a real workoutaholic.
Starting point is 01:50:32 She's in the gym every day. She walks, you know, two miles every day. What's I have to do with that, though? Because the people who work out are the ones that want this, because this triple G stuff or whatever it's called. When you work out, it makes you jacked. It just makes you jacked. So that the gym rats has a lot of this going on.
Starting point is 01:50:53 And I'm like. But that I find hilarious though because they're actually putting in the work and, you know, losing the weight. But I guess they kind of get addicted to that. They want to be. It's aesthetics, man. aesthetics. Now, I'm with you. I mean, I'll just be a wimpy, wiry, six foot five dude with Tourette's. You know, it's like, I'm amazed that I got a wife, actually. I think about it.
Starting point is 01:51:14 I'm constantly battling with Alex about it because it's all over friends. They're all, you know, they're all on a Zimpik or whatever, you know, the latest thing is. We just, a good friend of mine, Katie Cassidy, was just here at the ranch for a few days and was talking to Alex. Name drop. Who's Katie Cassidy? Name drop. Who is she? Should we know? Um, she's an actress. She's actually, she's actually an ex-girlfriend of mine. Oh, a model actress. Nice.
Starting point is 01:51:43 I'm not a model actress. Okay. I mean, Alex modeled as well. I don't know. It's just, but anyways, we get into what they, I nailed you. Admitted, I nailed John name dropping. Okay. So Katie, so Katie dropped by the ranch.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Yeah. So she was talking about like some shampoo with peptides in it. and I'm like, are you kidding? And she wasn't. And Alex's like, oh, I got to get that. I'm like, you are not, you don't use any of that. And then it just started this whole discussion back and forth about, but that's how it always goes. And they're like, oh, she's doing it. And I, you know, then I should try it and look at her.
Starting point is 01:52:18 And Alex did do it one time. I have the funniest picture, not peptides or GLP1, but when we lived in L.A. still, she got Botox for her lips. And she had an adverse reaction to it. and her lips blew up like a clown. And it was hilarious. I'm like, see? I told you this stuff is not good.
Starting point is 01:52:38 No, she shouldn't be putting Botox in her lips. That's filler. Whatever. No, that's filler. Yeah, yeah, something. She did fill her. That's, oh, another thing I'm so against. My ex-law.
Starting point is 01:52:49 All of them. I'm against any of that stuff. It's, none of it's good. Monty 83 in the troll room had a very good point. Triple G, G, G, G, G, 666. upside down. Six, six, six. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Okay, good point. Yes. It actually is developed by Eli Lilly, but it's invests, it's, uh, yeah, retretruid. Retro trude. Retro trude. Retra trude. Retra trude dried. Retra. Retra true died. People will email me and they will go off their, you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:53:29 My life has changed. I feel great when I get up in the morning. Well, I feel great too. Yeah, but my old thing too is it's so new and hasn't properly been tested. That was my point about these people that have diabetes is who they're talking about with the lawsuits now. Yeah. And it's like they've been using it longer. So I think there's going to be a whole cascade and rob the constitutional lawyer.
Starting point is 01:53:56 If he's representing people for this, I think he's going to have a good business for a while. Yes. Suits and Boots.com. I'm telling you. Another six grand. He always said, hey man, you know, we work together and we'd make a bundle on this stuff. I'll send them to you for free, brother. I'll send them to you for free. See, you're doing it wrong. I heard you complain into J-Cal about all these different things. See, you're doing it wrong right there.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I know. I do it wrong all the time. It's not my job. My job is this. This is my job. Welcome to my life. All right. You want to do one or two more? Do you want to stay for the donations? And then we'll do too. Yeah, I saw some people. I don't have the donation, but I can comment and just be the peanut gallery. Yeah, that'd be good. That'd be good. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:54:38 All right. So let's, I have a couple. I thought that I tailored these for you since they have to do with aircraft. Let's start with hilly pad first. Hold on a second. Where is this? Healy pad. Was it under Trump maybe?
Starting point is 01:54:58 Oh, yeah. Okay. We say helipad, but you say helipad? Okay. Okay, all right. We ordered a number of Sikorsky's as the helicopters back and forth. Well, they're about two and a half times more powerful than the old ones. And when you land on the grass, it's not that the grass gets discolored.
Starting point is 01:55:17 It gets ripped out, ripped out. And it was all over it. They landed it once, and nobody planned for this. This was a little bit of a planning mistake. So they landed the helicopter and half of the grass was sitting in front of the Oval Office front door. The rest of it was scattered
Starting point is 01:55:36 all over the... I mean, literally, it didn't singe it. It also singed it by the way. But it literally lift... That's bull crap. Because the power. It's tremendous. The engines are on the top. It didn't singe it. No, he's not talking about... Oh, you're talking about disingen. Okay. Yeah, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:55:53 He said, well, we'll keep using the old helicopters when we have to land at the White House. And for everything else, we use the new helicopters. They said, that's a pretty expensive deal. You wouldn't do that for your company. You'd figure out an answer. So I said, because I have helicopters, and three of them, I said, because they've been great for my business.
Starting point is 01:56:14 I think they're incredible. So, Sikorski's, Sikorski, 76. And I always was lucky. I always got helipads. Other people done. Very hard to get. The hardest thing to get is a hell. halipat. It's true. Okay. There's no harder zoning thing to get is a helipat.
Starting point is 01:56:31 All right. So I figured you would appreciate the, uh, the hardest thing to get as a hilly pad because of your stories with that. Yes. So I'll tell the story. January 2000, I want to say. Yeah, January 2000, 2001. Huge fire in a small fishing village, very famous fishing village in a nightclub, like 80 kids got severely burned. The night, Holland isn't all that big, but the nightclub is within, you know, like 15 to 17 minute flying distance from the hospital in Amsterdam where they have helicopters on the roof. The burn center is in the north of Holland in Groningen.
Starting point is 01:57:19 And so these kids, you know, they're pulling these kids out. It's a nightmare. You know, it's New Year's Eve. These kids are burned. and this kids dying. The whole thing is horrible. And the helicopters were not allowed to take off because of noise abatement. They don't have the literal license to take off after, I think, 7 p.m.
Starting point is 01:57:39 from the hospital rooftop. And so they have to take these burned kids by car. That's an hour and a half, maybe two hour drive by ambulance. Of course, not enough. Ambulance. The whole thing was horrible. And so I went to the mayor at the time. Pauline Cricker in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I said, I'm going to build a heliport. And I was in the helicopter business. I was throwing away my money on helicopters. And I said, I'm going to build a hell. Some solar panels or something. Well, I also, I wanted it because very expensive to land at Schipel Airport. Landing fees are like $400 just to land at the airport. So you were saving some money.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Well, I was like, yeah, I was going to save some dough. So I'm going to build a heliport. I want to build a heliport. it in the harbor and I will let the trauma helicopters stay there, take off, land for free, no charge whatsoever. And so they said, yeah, okay, they got it. One small problem, Mr. Curry. What's that? Well, the spot you have mapped out, which is the only logical spot, has a windmill next to it. Then I'm not talking a Dutch windmill. I'm talking one of those monster things that supposedly generates energy for your Tesla. You have to move that. So I spent a hundred
Starting point is 01:58:55 thousand euros to move the windmill to then have the heliport and then after and then after that everything went to crap my business partner turned out to be a crook he was wanted by the scotland yard you know we had another augusta helicopter on order had to cancel that order 400,000 order this is where all my money went by the way and and I wound up selling it for one euro to to an outfit called heli holland they bought it from me of course. And to this day, the trauma helicopters still don't use it. They use it for one.
Starting point is 01:59:34 There's only one purpose except for, you know, passenger use. They use it to land with the baby seals they rescue. Oh. That's what happened to my heliport. Good job. You're saving all the baby seals. Yeah. But helicopters, you know, not the not the ones he's talking about.
Starting point is 01:59:55 or the ones that I have, but I flew a lot of smaller helicopters, and we go to my friend's place in Belgium or somewhere else, and we just land in the field next to the house. We have to be very careful because you get the, like, I trained in Robinson R44s. You know, those things are, foo. Well, it's cheap for training, at least it was. But they have the engine in the back, mounted on the back.
Starting point is 02:00:20 You couldn't land in tall grass because you can just look it up on YouTube. the number of Robinson R-44s and R-22s that have caught fire because they landed in grass. Landed in and dry grass. And it consumes the entire aircraft very quickly. The second thing you have to watch out for is cows. Cows love helicopters. Cows will come up and they make hamburger meat really fast. No, no, no, you land there.
Starting point is 02:00:46 So now you got the short grass. You land in the field. You got to watch it because the cows will come over and they will tip the helicopter over. They love rubbing against the helicopter and they push it over. Time and time again. Oh, you mean after it's shut down? Yeah, yeah. Not why it's running.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Before the hamburger bit. Yeah, exactly. So there's my helipads. This, by the way, this is in the book, Dana. We just gave way another beautiful piece. That's called a teaser. A teaser. Yes, a teaser for the book and for the movie.
Starting point is 02:01:15 And I have pictures. I have pictures. Coming out in 2031 or 32. No, dude, 2027. Oh, He better get cracking. Thanksgiving 2027 Blockbuster. Paramount.
Starting point is 02:01:29 I'm going to have to get an AI, a better machine that can run some... No, just call your buddy Elon. We'll use his thing. You know, his movie thing. It'll be fine. Oh, yeah, good. I'm just going to have Grockbot make it.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Just call it. Hey, you have his number. You have his number. You have his number. Tell me you have. I used to. I don't have it anymore. J-Cal, I'm sure, has it. So we got to loop J-Cal.
Starting point is 02:01:53 on this. Jay Cal, we'll give you points. We'll give you points, Jay Cal. We'll give you points after the money points. And he won't get taxed by California. I'm going to have to move there or set up an entity there before we do this.
Starting point is 02:02:09 And red carpet rights. You get to walk the red carpet with us. And we'll get you a ticket to the Oscars. We're going to get nominated. No, we're going to win. We're nominated. This is going to be this is. Well, you've got to get nominated before you can win.
Starting point is 02:02:23 All right. Call Harvey. Call Harvey. Carvey's indisposed. All right. One more. One more. Do one more with me.
Starting point is 02:02:32 This is good. All right. We'll stay on the aircraft. And I don't know why I've been getting some ATC things popping up. But they're always funny because there's usually people like the tower flight fighting with a pilot. And I find them kind of amusing. But this one, because we were talking about the last time I was on about horses and how expensive they are. And I can relate to this.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Go ahead and play FedEx. I do have a question about Chicago, if you got a second. Okay, clear to land five, right? Go ahead, Pedic Thursday. It's a comment. FedEx 36-09. We were just kind of musing up here. The horses.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Who shipped horses, or are they here for the track, or can you tell us, or do you know? This one's joining up with four more, and they're going to L.A. Is that common? I mean, I know you guys come in here with horses, but is that common for people to be able to ship horses? Yeah, more than you think. A hundred percent agree with that. I appreciate you the information, and for FedEx 36-0. on heavy to reaffirm five breaks through to win.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Bill in, thank you. Yeah, do we like to roll out because they hit the brakes too hard, they have a tendency to roll, like, slip under, roll backwards. Yeah, I don't want any of that, so it'll be your discretion. There's plenty of space behind me and go to the end, whatever works for you. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Thanks for the info.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Zero record, Charlie learned something to do, too. And FedEx 36-09, are they race forces? So what we have on board is the other ones are, I think they're going to be jumpers. Okay, thank you. Okay, so this was very nice inside information. clearly Alex ordered some race horses, some jumpers. And they were being flown to your home in California. Well, I would not be surprised if we did have a horse on there because they were going to L.A.
Starting point is 02:04:03 And they are jumpers. And that's what she gets. And her jumpers, they're warm blood. So they either come from Belgium or Germany or different places in Europe. And everyone's like, well, how do you get them over? You put them on a boat or something? Nope. And no, you FedEx them.
Starting point is 02:04:19 that was a FedEx plane and they have a special plane that's just for or a portion of cargo plane that has stables inside of it. I know this because I once, this is years ago, was on KLM flying to the U.S. from the Netherlands. And I don't remember how, whatever it was, they were going down. It was like half the plane was filled with people and there were horses. And you were going down? No, the flight attendants were going down. They were like taking pictures and stuff and going down the stairs in the 747. What's going on?
Starting point is 02:04:54 Oh, we got horses down there. So yeah. Yeah. It's a thing. Yeah. So again, do not get into horses because it becomes expensive very fast. You don't want to know what it costs to FedEx a horse across the world. It's not cheap.
Starting point is 02:05:09 Somehow, somehow, somehow I think everybody understands that, Dana. All right, everybody, we're going to be right back with the donations and Dana's tip of the day right after we roll out another song that was too long to play at the intro, but I think you'll enjoy it, Dana. Bathroom break, everybody. Adam,
Starting point is 02:05:28 cue that up. We got some news to discuss. Yeah, uh, that's a bad to chair. Yeah, yeah. Dana back in the chair.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Hollywood in the rear. Adam got a stack of clips. Let's make it disappear. Headlines on fire Everybody got a take Half of them are selling it The other half is fake Roll tape
Starting point is 02:06:00 Hold on run that back Funny how the story changes When you follow the facts Adam on the board With a finger on plate Dana knows a good production When he sees one, okay House full of cars
Starting point is 02:06:12 Couple shades in the past Race the Grand Turismo Yeah the resume's fast No need to name drop But the man's been around Knows a manufacturing story When it comes in the town Adam and Dana
Starting point is 02:06:23 Back on the Mike, news gets strange when you turn on the lights, time by line, everybody's got a story. We got plenty of time. Bring us what you know. Bring us what you got. Hollywood, D.C., money and fame, different cast and characters. Same damn game.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Now, Dana got connections. That's what somebody said. John C. Deval Rack's nephew. Wait, what? Yeah, that's what I read. Don't check the family tree. Don't ruin the bit. J.C.D. would hear that line and throw an absolute fit.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Cranky Uncle John saying, this is absurd. Then correct your pronunciation and your choice of every word. That's pedigree, baby. Put respect on the name. Even when the genie Allengie is completely insane. Meanwhile, Adam got another clip in the queue. Somebody on television explaining it what's true. Dana leans back like, I've seen this before.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Better sets, bigger budget, same script at the core. Adam and Dana back on the mic, my news gets strange when you turn on the lights. First time sounds good. Second time. Not quite. Adam and Dana. Dig in the pot. Keep what makes sense.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Throw out what does this not. Not media movies. Power and fame. Different production. Same damn game. Dana knows pictures. Adam knows sound. Both know a narrative when one's going around.
Starting point is 02:07:44 So bring in the headlines. Bring in the building. Let the deconstruction begin. Adam and Dana. Back for the day. Roll another clip. We got something to say. Plot.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Just Adam. Dana. And a whole lot of... No agenda. Welcome back, nephew. Welcome back, nephew. Hey, am I, can you hear me? Am I still here?
Starting point is 02:08:35 Yeah, I hear you. J-Cal is talking smack and Twitter to me right now. What's he's saying? What is he saying? Because, you know, he's coming Sunday. He's coming back on Sunday. Yeah, I know. I got bumped for J-Cal.
Starting point is 02:08:46 You didn't get bumped? This is DEI, man. We got to have the neurodivergent on as well. You know, it's not just about you. I like him. I like it. I think he's great and I think you should keep using him. He definitely brings in the crowd. But I love a little friendly, friendly competition here. How long are you going to just show up on this show, man? It's like, I don't think of me. Yeah, you. Or J-Cal, who are you talking about? I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. Jay-Cal said I'm doing a fine job as a second or third choice in the rotation.
Starting point is 02:09:16 That's amazing. I told you, I'll show up as long as I, how long are we going to keep doing this? That's a good question. I don't know. I mean, I feel like my season is ending. My season is coming to. Why? Why?
Starting point is 02:09:34 Because I can never have a full partner on this show unless it's a member of the Dvorak family. I am a member of Dvorak family. I'm his nephew. Yeah, okay. Well, what was it? Look, I even have the... I love you, ma'am.
Starting point is 02:09:52 I want to make a movie with you. I don't want to do a podcast with you. Okay, well, we got to get J. Cowan on the movie then, too, because we need Elon's phone number to get in early on the AI studio. Consider it done. He's already dialing. I know he is. Hey, Elon.
Starting point is 02:10:10 He's like a career. And you know, these guys are good. Listen, Brunei, you just like house of cards? You like house of cards? Elon knows who I am. Elon and I used to... Oh, Elon knows who I am. There is.
Starting point is 02:10:26 No, he and I used to hang out in L.A. I'm sure. I met him once. I met him once. Twice, actually. You met him once? Yeah. One time...
Starting point is 02:10:35 One time, this will be in the book. Here's another teaser. One time at... One time I met Elon. No, I met him twice. The first time... Hold on. Sir Brim,
Starting point is 02:10:45 Bim Rose in the troll room said, Dana clearly wants a full-time job. That is not true. No, no, I don't think you, no one wants a full-time job. I need a full-time job. No, so I met him at, who was the guy who ran Sequoia Capitol?
Starting point is 02:11:04 Moritz, Mike Moritz. He ran Sequoia Capital. They invested in Pod Show, later Mivio. And he's like, you got to meet this guy. Come over, you know, all of our family. All of our founders, come on over to my house.
Starting point is 02:11:18 You know, Knob Hill, one of those huge mansions on the hill, slanted hill. And there was Elon, and he was talking about Tesla. And he was really introverted. Like, he could barely talk. Not at all. Like, he's so articulate now. It's almost like a different guy. I think he's had some media training.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Well, it wasn't even media. It was just we're just hanging out, having some shrimp cocktail. Yeah, no, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, sorry, you finish your story. Yeah, I'm, I'm, okay, I'll finish my story. The second time, I'll finish my story. We were with, um, Roy Lane, Roy Lane, I'm sorry, Ray Lane, I'm sorry, Ray Lane, he, he was the president of Oracle under Ellison, but he really ran, he was the, like an operator. So he really ran Oracle and Ellison was kind of on his way out at the time.
Starting point is 02:12:08 And Ray was one of the top guys at Kleiner Perkins, who would also invest in our company. we came to them, by the way, thanks to Steve Jobs. That's another story. That's definitely in the book. And Ray said, hey, we're going to go to the launch of Tesla in Los Angeles. And come with me in my jet. Okay. So he had a bombardier, brand new bombardier jet.
Starting point is 02:12:33 So we fly in. I don't know if, I don't think it was LAX. It wasn't Burbank. It probably Santa Monica. It might have been Santa Monica. And they had the... That's where they did the unveiling of the... There it is.
Starting point is 02:12:44 And so we roll up and there's 15 private jets. You know, oh, that's Peter Thiel. That's this guy. You know, all these PayPal Mafia guys, all their jets were all parked in a row. And then they had a big hanger and they had kind of a track. And you could take a test drive in the in the Tesla, which at the time was just a lotus with a battery in it. And I had one of those. And you'd have, of course.
Starting point is 02:13:10 And you'd have somebody else. You weren't allowed to drive. You'd be in the car. them and they would drive you around the track and there was a big LED scoreboard and it showed everybody's name who had bought one i think they were like what the 125 000 i think at the time i i bought james tellers used wow i'm i got to pick these names up you mean james taylor the guy who said who said uh f facebook in your movie yeah by the way you had me so confused i'm like Because my memory is going.
Starting point is 02:13:45 I'm like, did we have that scene? And I'm like trying to, I'm like, what scene is he talking? And then you sent me the letter of somebody that thought that I produced Grand Torino, the Clan Eastwood movie, which is Grand Turismo. It's completely different movie. There's a lot of misinformation in the world, baby. I'm telling you, a lot of misinformation. Anyway, tell you Elon's story.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Then we'll thank some people who sent some value back to the show. I'll just tell how I initially met him. I cold emailed him. and I said I can't remember the email but basically like I think that we should make a movie about you because kids these days are looking up to people like Michael Jordan and Eminem and I forgot who else I go but I think kids should be looking up to somebody like you. This was before he was known. The Tesla Model S had just come out. This was years and years ago. And I just fired off this cold email and he replied and he said, yeah,
Starting point is 02:14:42 come down and meet me for lunch. Let's have lunch at SpaceX. So I went and had lunch with him at SpaceX. And he was exactly as you described, very awkward and odd to talk to. But we hit it off and just ended up becoming friends. And he said he didn't want to do a movie at a time because he had a lot more to do. Clearly, that became true. And so he said it wasn't time to make a film about him. And we ended up becoming friends and spent a lot of.
Starting point is 02:15:12 a lot of time with him. I remember taking him to a CAA party one time and they went and let him in and they didn't know who he was and I was like, are you kidding? This guy's like the, you know, Thomas Edison of our time, let this guy in. And I took him into a CAA party and introducing him to
Starting point is 02:15:28 agents and managers and people there to set the... Actresses, say it actresses. No, no, no, no. Ironically, it was pretty funny because I remember a lot of the agents, they were just too busy doing that and talking to all the actors and actresses there and trying to, you know, just smooth to them and completely ignoring him. And it was like the next day
Starting point is 02:15:48 I started getting calls from agents like, hey, was it? That was Elon Musk you brought? Yeah, can you get us in touch? Can you get us in touch? And ironically, one of the guys I put him in touch with was one of the, a large investor in SpaceX. And now it made a fortune off of, uh, Jason Calacanus. It was Jay Cow. No. Jay Cow and I, we've never, Here, I'll tell you, he and I never spoke. And if he's listening right now, then you're passing my number because we probably should. We DM'd years and years and years ago and had discussed about meeting up and, you know, grabbing lunch and doing, you know, that usual. And we never, we, we never actually connected.
Starting point is 02:16:32 All right. So what happened with the friendship? You don't even have his number anymore. What happens? What friendship? With Elon. We became friends. We're hanging out. With his phone number, we, uh, I honestly, I'm horrible. Even you, I haven't, I don't save, uh, people's names with the numbers and I just go back and literally, you literally lost his number.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Yeah. But I, I occasionally would email with him, but I think I became more of a pain in his ass because I was just emailing whenever I had problems like my solar panels. I was having issues with that when they wouldn't install them on a standing seam roof. And, and when you know issue with a power wall or something like so I was you became that annoying friend you became that guy see I have Rogan's number but I don't text him you know because I always think who are the people who contact me and say oh you know this or that and I'm sure he's got a million people
Starting point is 02:17:33 like have me on so I only text them when I see him on TV in Washington like hey I see you in the back I see you with Trump that's awesome and he always Yeah, that's annoying to, though. No, no, he loves that. He always texts me back. He's going to wave to you. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:17:48 He loved, he loved it. I never, I never, he was like, you need to go back on Rogan. It's like, dude, that's not how it works. You're like, hey, Joe, put me on the show. No, it doesn't work that way. I am due, though. I am due for another appearance. I personally think.
Starting point is 02:18:03 Anyway. And what? Yes. You're due for another appearance for what? Unrogan. For what? Just to talk, to catch up. But you have to,
Starting point is 02:18:13 you can't just go on and talk to catch up. You got to be about like promoting something. No, no, I've never been on there to promote something. He just, he says, I like talking with you.
Starting point is 02:18:24 That's why he has me on. That's when you're supposed to promote this show. Well, I always do, but I'm going to, I'm going to say, no, man,
Starting point is 02:18:32 wait until my movie's coming out. There you go. That's what you're going on for. Of course. Of course. All right. So here's how, here's how it's going to happen.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Okay. All right. So you and I are going to keep working on this. We're going to get with J-Cow. And then he's going to get us back in with Elon to do the, we're going to do the first AI movie. And the first release, and that's going to be the big,
Starting point is 02:18:54 the big, uh, blockbuster on broken. It's going to be the blogbuster. Yeah. You don't know about that. And then we're going to, we're going to sell it to Paramount.
Starting point is 02:19:04 So it's part of one of their 30 movies. Well, remember, I have, I have the, I got the, I got the Christian money guys in my back pocket. We don't need them anymore with AI.
Starting point is 02:19:16 We're good. But they have top dollars. They just did that young Washington deal. They got money. Yeah, but with AI, do we need it? Oh, and Scaramonga. What do you mean? We got to get Scaramonga in on this as well.
Starting point is 02:19:29 Scaramonga. Woo! Okay. Well, that's actually not a bad idea. What you're saying there is... I think we should open source all of this. We're going to write it in real time. on on X.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Yeah. I used to write. We're going to, we're going to build it in real time, just like everybody wanted to build in software and everything. And they're making, and telling everybody what they're doing. We're going to do it. No, we're going to write it on GitHub.
Starting point is 02:19:52 We're going to have a GitHub. No, no, well, but we're going to tell everybody what we're doing. We're going to tell the people what we're doing on X. And then they can go to GitHub. They can go to GitHub to get the size. And then, and then we'll write a, we're going to write a manual on how to make a movie in AI. And here's a perfect example.
Starting point is 02:20:10 example and we're going to brag about how much money we made doing it. And I made $80 billion with this movie written in AI and produced an AI. And here's how you can too. And then Apple is going to do a deal with us. One of those deals like with, what's his face, from the beats, the beats headphones. Oh, Dr. Dre. Yeah, we'll do a Dr. Dre type deal.
Starting point is 02:20:34 No, no. Well, yeah. Well, they're going to buy, they're going to buy our, our, uh, our, formula. And then I'll go on Rogan and on Alex Jones to promote it. What could possibly go wrong? This is great. Now, you're putting a cart before the horse. We got to do, you got to do Alex Jones and Rogan before, and then that's what's going to make its success. And that's going to build it up. So then we sell it to Apple. Yes. And we're going to, it's going to be on the, on the iPhone Duo 3. Yes. It will come included on the iPhone. Fold. Fold. Or whatever.
Starting point is 02:21:10 No, it's called a duo. And wait, you'll be able to create your own ending of the movie. Yeah. You could choose your ending. Adam dies. Adam winds up a lonely old podcaster spitting in the microphone, or he winds up hobnobbing in California. There you go.
Starting point is 02:21:27 With JCD. It ends with you and John sitting on the beach going, we did. Oh my God, just as soon as I said that, my order of the aunt thing just fell off to my desk. I really am grateful that I know you. I don't know how this is, this is a God thing. I just, I just love that we got to know each other.
Starting point is 02:21:49 You've replaced, what did I tell you before? I said, I found a new way, the time change when I can get on the phone and talk with you. This is what me and John did. And so we're just doing it here on the show. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:22:00 except with John, he had a million ideas and nothing came of it. I'm going to make this happen. We're going to do, look, I'm talking about the movie. I'm just talking about me and you having a conversation. The next time I do to show, I'm going to take gummies.
Starting point is 02:22:13 Deal. Oh, that would be interesting. But I'm sure John always had some idea or something. We should do this, do that. No, the only thing, the only thing that he did say that he and I should do a podcast, and we did talk about it. And it was, I think it was titled like Party Line and was basically going to be him and I on the phone. And what he, I wanted just to keep it on the phone.
Starting point is 02:22:39 and he didn't want to do it on the phone because I wanted to be able to do it from anywhere. And then we would just call somebody in and we would just shoot the shit for however long it went. And that was going to be the podcast. Why didn't it happen? Because neither I wasn't going to do it and do all the legwork. And he wasn't going to do all the legwork. And so we just ended up just talking to each other and nothing ever happened. You got to love it.
Starting point is 02:23:02 You got to love it. All right. We're going for another record with time. And so let's, yeah, we're going to do fine. Hey, I'll sit here and chat all day if you want. Yeah, that's what I like about you, man. Do you want to play some more clips? Are we going to do tip of the day?
Starting point is 02:23:17 Or, you know what? You forgot my new creation. What happened in this year in 1906? Show number 1906. Oh, okay. Let me think. What happened on this in this year in 1906? So we had 1902 was the Wright brothers.
Starting point is 02:23:35 No, was it 1902? Was no, 1903, I think, 1903. 1906. Wasn't there a... You want a hint? Yes, please. You had it last show. The last time I asked you this.
Starting point is 02:23:54 Edison's electricity? You think I remember any of this crap that I talked on this show? I don't need gummies to forget, Dana. It was the great earthquake and fire of San Francisco. Right. The fire. I was, yeah, okay, there you go. There you go. The fire in San Francisco. All right. We have a, when are we doing tip of the day?
Starting point is 02:24:17 Hold on. I got to thank some people first because it's a value for value podcast. People support us by telling people about the podcast. People support us by making end of show mixes, making beginning of show mixes, making middle of show mixes these days. Much of the chagrin of some, much of the delight of others. I really don't care. I think it's fun. I like it. People are having, it's the lyrics.
Starting point is 02:24:41 It's all about the lyrics. It's not even so much about the execution. It's about the lyrics. And of course, people also make artwork, the artwork for the previous show, which we titled Nerd Balls. That was the one with Jason Callicannis. I wasn't so fond of this one myself, but there really wasn't a lot of choice.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Geek Girl made it as a cowboy wrangling all the different AIs. It was okay, Ranch 33, but it was, yeah, I wish there was something better. Thank you, Geek Girl, but it just wasn't quite exactly what. what I had hoped for. So hopefully we'll get better for today's show. And we always want to thank people who supported us financially, time, talent, and treasure.
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Starting point is 02:25:54 Just ask Danny Brunetti. He's there on IMDB.com with all of the other no agenda associate executive producers, or $300 and above, and you become an executive producer. And that goes for the following people who also still, I guess, is the last trickle of order of the ant. So we thank Mark Elloser, who came in with 3333-33-plus fees. Has no note, so, well, in this case,
Starting point is 02:26:19 I'll just have to give him a double-up, double-up karma. You've got. Karma. Bad Bruce comes in with 33-33-33 plus the fees. Switcheroo, he says, for my smoking-hot wife, Katrina, 21 years, and we never had a fight. May she be a little. is legendary a soldier in the order of the ants as she is in the Lord's Army,
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Starting point is 02:27:10 in honor of John C. DeVorek in my ongoing fight with those six-legged bastards. Rest in peace, JCD. Sir Matnick, Order of the Ants, these are the last ones. Earlier today, I sent you my donation in memory of JCD and his many years of contributions on the best podcast in the universe. D.H. Unplugged, which is every single Tuesday night,
Starting point is 02:27:31 8 o'clock, I think it's 9 o'clock Eastern. D.H. Unplugged, InfoW. tech TV and for his lifetime of patronage to flip phones and squirrel mail. Oh man, do we still have that squirrel mail jingle? That just reminds me. Squirrel mail. Squirrel mail. We had, yes, we have it.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Oh, he's got no note. To the squirrel mails. Let me just take a look. I'm not sure. Oh, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop. And Sir Matnick continues. My meager donation is dwarfed by the value I've gotten from JCD over the years. I love listening to Jason Calacanus and Rob Doe among others.
Starting point is 02:28:36 You are now among the others, Dan. Hey, hey, hey. As hosts. And would again like to voice my support for a Mimi Dvorak segment as well. Oh, she's coming. Hang in there, crackpot. I'm hoping to enjoy many more pods of the best podcast in the universe for years to come. Damn, you aunt. 73, Sir Matnick.
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Starting point is 02:30:19 Blessings to the Noagin the Nation. Enter the Curry and Dvorak families. Rest in peace, John C. DeVorak. And now we have, let me see, manana. Do we have Parmoniana? Hmm, maybe it's called ITM Spanish. Yes, I have it here. Okay.
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Starting point is 02:34:37 and one of the advantages of living on a ranch. I had to take a leak, so I just stepped outside my office door. I saw this last night on Ted Lasso. What? We followed Ted Lasso. I never thought I wanted to watch Ted Lasso. I haven't watched it, should I? Well, it's about,
Starting point is 02:34:56 football about soccer. Yeah. The premise is fun. Now, this season, they have a female soccer team. Anyway, there was a question in there. It's like, where do you go to the, where's the bathroom? Wherever you go. Something like that. Behind that tree. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:35:25 That's right. Order of the end. These are the absolute last ones. Mark Alcosa, Katrina, Bruce, Cindy Bozek, Tom Busick, Tom Bush. Scott North, Sir Matnick, David Martin, Glenn Bukowski, and Michelle Renee Aponte. Is it Aponte? Somehow I think it was something else. Was it Aponte?
Starting point is 02:35:47 Let me double check. Yes, Michelle Renee Aponte. All of you now officially in the No Agenda Order of the Ants. Order of the Ant. Go to Noagenda rings.com. Let us know where to send this pin. Dana, do you have the handsome Order of the Ant pin and certificate there? near you?
Starting point is 02:36:06 I do. That's what I was talking. Those are my comrades with me in this order. That's what I was talking about. When I was talking about JCD, I have it sitting up on my desk, and as soon as I started talking about him, it fell off. Hmm. Hmm. Coincidence?
Starting point is 02:36:21 Read the book. Do you remember that infomercial? Do you remember that one? Which one? It was like mysteries of the universe and we're like, is it a coincidence? Oh, yeah. Read the book. It was a great pitch.
Starting point is 02:36:34 What book was that? Is it dionetics? No, no, no, no, no. Let me see. Let me see. This is a very good question, actually. Let me see. Oh, you know what? You know what we can do?
Starting point is 02:36:48 We can ask the book of knowledge. Ah. Okay. Let's see if the book of knowledge is. Yeah, we haven't used it at all. We haven't. I feel kind of bad. A book of knowledge.
Starting point is 02:36:56 What infomercial always ended with a tagline, read the book? All right. Let's see. Book of knowledge has been a bit weird lately. I hear a hum coming from the book of knowledge. Yeah, this is taken a lot. Is that the fan on the processor? According to the book of knowledge,
Starting point is 02:37:17 that would be the infamous Kevin Trudeau, whose late-night infomercials for asterisk natural cures. They don't want you to know about repeatedly deflected detailed questions by directing viewers to read the book. His ubiquitous late-night infomercials, promoted unsubstantiated health, diet, and financial advice. Lendon ultimately earned him a ban from the FTC and a $2 million penalty for misleading American consumers. Thus, it has been written.
Starting point is 02:37:56 There you go. He sounds drunk. Book of knowledge is off his rocker these days. Something wrong with it. Hey, man, do you have a blade there by any chance? You got a story. Hold on. It's in this book that I got from.
Starting point is 02:38:07 or this box that I got from John. Okay. You got the sword? Yeah. Beautiful. Somehow there's three swords now. Hey, one night, one dame Freya from DeFolk. She said she wanted a knighting, but of course that will be a daming. So up on the podium, you go for a hand.
Starting point is 02:38:26 Hey, hey, don't misgender her or him. And Glenn Bukowski, both of you, I am very proud to pronounce the Kate, as Dame Media Equals Virus and Sir Glenn of the Drink. For you, by request, we have hookers and blow, rent boys, and chardonnay, pizzas and hot dogs, and bubbles, and a hucho fricandel. Along with that, we also have pepperoni rolls and pale ales. We got Rubeness, women, and rosé, gaites, and sake, bacc vanilla, bonnetts and bourbon, sparkling cider, and escorts, gingerbread, and jurbles, and, of course, as always, at the roundtable, the mutton and meat, or, at least whatever Brunetti hasn't eaten already.
Starting point is 02:39:00 You too. Go to noagenda rings.com. Take a look at that handsome, no agenda, knight, or dame ring. It's a signet ring, so we always include. some wax so you can seal your important correspondence with it, and it always comes with an official certificate of authenticity, which I believe are still signed by JCD in advance, so you get that.
Starting point is 02:39:20 And just tell us what ring size you need, and we'll send that off to you along with the address, obviously. Welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames. No Agenda. A couple of meetups taking place, and you definitely need to visit one of these. at least once in your lifetime, the North Georgia odd month meetup. Takes place at 6 o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing and Alfreda, Georgia.
Starting point is 02:39:51 On Saturday, the tiny amygdala of Anchorage Unite to celebrate fall. Ah, you got to go. Two o'clock Alaska time, Campbell Park, that's the airstrip trailhead. Bring your otter in Anchorage, Alaska. No reports today, no weed up reports. You should send them people. We do like it. Also on Saturday, Squim, come on out.
Starting point is 02:40:10 2 o'clock. That is Pacific Coast wet time. And Mimi is organizing that one at Bar Hop Brewing in Squim, Washington. So goes so high to Mimi. Our next showday Sunday, let's get freshies, Texas. 333 Central in Longview, Texas. Dirty Jersey who are organizing that one. These DJW's meetups are legendary. If you can make it out there, I suggest you do. For October, on the first, Raleigh, North Carolina, Midlands in the UK, on the third, Indianapolis, Indiana on the fourth. The ninth, Los Banos, California. On the 10th, we have three, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Eagle, Idaho, and Soquel, California. The 15th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 16th, Phoenix, Arizona, Long Beach, California on the 17th. And Fredericksburg, Texas, also on the 17th.
Starting point is 02:40:56 Keeper and I will both be there. Join us at J-Six or Jenny's place. Smithville, Texas, on the 24th, plus Altos, California on the 24th as well. And the final one on the 24th is Tilburg, the Netherlands. Go to no agenda, meet up, please. you will not regret it. It's fun. You meet people. These meetups will probably continue long after the show is gone because these relationships, the connections that people make, they give you protection. They will also be your first responders in any emergency. Go to knowaginaMeetups.com. Find one near you. If you can't find one, and they're all free, by the way. Start one yourself. There's no fee for that either. Noagentatemetups.com. Always guaranteed a party. and dames name was the same
Starting point is 02:41:51 It's like a party Hey, an old-fashioned ISO off, ISO off, I sew off. Here we go. Wait, wait, before we go there. Is that the first time that somebody has done a nightine other than you and John? Yes, I believe so.
Starting point is 02:42:10 Okay, hold on. All right, so Rob, zero, J-Cal, zero, Dana, one. I always cut them off. I cut them off. You know, like, yeah, get out of here.
Starting point is 02:42:23 Get out of here. I just, I don't want to like, yeah, that's fine. You're such a good guy, Dan and Brunetti. All right. I have one ISO. You have three, of course. Just one. Okay.
Starting point is 02:42:35 Yeah. You want to go first? Yeah, I'm going to go first. Oh, that was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. That's the producer Steve sent me that one. So I'm happy with it. I'm happy.
Starting point is 02:42:47 What do you have? Okay. Uh, What do I have? Go with Amazing. It's actually amazing. Yeah, Trump, always low energy. Yeah, and it's got some background noise, but try much better. Much better. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:43:03 It sounds much better. It is much better. And it's much more accurate. Fun message. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Okay. Okay. And then give up. Hey, we're giving up. I don't know, man. I mean, when I play your... When I listen to that, I mean, it's got it almost everything you need. I'm good with that. There we go, everybody. Hey, this time, once again, for the tip of the day done by its creator.
Starting point is 02:43:32 Create advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. All right, Danny Burnetti with your tip of the day. Okay, I actually have two. Oh, a two for a donation seem a little low, so I'm trying to bring a little. little bit more some more content for the value. All right. The first one I have is, you know,
Starting point is 02:43:58 when you have to do security questions for like bank stuff and your mother, mother's maiden name, street you lived on, your pet's name. Yep. Yeah. So the tip with that is a lie. Don't ever tell the truth on a security question. Yeah, but then you'll forget when you need the security question. Well, you need to remember the lie, but that's a, I guess a part of the problem with the lie. Why is this a tip? Why is this a tip? Why is it a tip? Because if you do use your mother's maiden name or your pet or your street you grew up on here, I'll give you a perfect example just with those. Do you know how you come up with a porn name? Yeah, I forgot how to do this. There's different variations. There's a soap opera name and your porn name. And they all use the three things that you just said. Oh, that's right. So I would. be, let me see, my mother's name.
Starting point is 02:44:53 Well, don't give it away because then you're going to give your mother's maiden name when you're going to do exactly unless you haven't used any of those on your security questions. Okay. I do know one street address when we lived in Maryland. I don't use that one because I, because I always forget how to spell it. All right. So it's your, it's your middle name with the street you grew up on. No, that's no good. Clark Mitchell. No, it doesn't sound right. that's Clark mitcher it's no good all right all right
Starting point is 02:45:25 great porn name wow I can't wait to watch that one it's a stunner Clark mitcher is starring in it nice I don't know if that's necessarily straight porn so hey don't judge all right your second two
Starting point is 02:45:38 so on an iPhone like in when you're or on an Android you'll have to check this on Android but on an iPhone you know when you're trying to move your cursor or the little blinking line if you're trying to like get back in between a word to type something or to put in a space.
Starting point is 02:45:55 Yeah. Hold down the space bar. And if you hold down a space bar, it turns into a track pad and then you can move it to wherever you want it. What? Hold on a second. Let me see if this works. I think on that Android, you might have to hold a space bar and move to the left or right.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Hold on. Let me see. This is interesting. Okay. So I hit that and I hold on the space bar. No, I get changed keyboard if I do that. I think you have to have the G keyboard it for it. But on an iPhone, you hold it down and it turns into a track pad and then you can move your thumb around.
Starting point is 02:46:26 Yeah, I'm not going to use the Gboard because then all, everything I type in goes to Google. Yeah, whatever. If you carry a cell phone, they got everything on you anyways. Two tips for you today, ladies and gentlemen. Go to noagenda fun.com. Tipofthea.net.com. Tip of the day.net for more. Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam
Starting point is 02:46:53 Created by Dana Burnetti Created, hosted, written, and voiced by Dana Burnett. Is anybody else bringing segments to the show? What do you mean segments? Oh, new segments like the year, the show year? Yeah, or the tip of the day or...
Starting point is 02:47:10 No, nobody. So Rob, Rob, Zero, J-Cal, Zero, Dana now, too. Jay Cowell calling me out on Twitter. Come on, it's on. Hey, man. Go easy on them. We want Elon's number.
Starting point is 02:47:26 Remember. Think of your future, baby. Think of your future. We don't need it. We just get it in Crockbot. Dana, thank you so much, man. I really appreciate you coming on once again. And I think we have Jaycal Sunday.
Starting point is 02:47:40 Then Rob Dew is back. And then maybe you want to come back again? Yeah, I'll come back. Yeah, do the gummies, though. That should be fun. Oh, God. Can you imagine? I'll do it, but I can't get it.
Starting point is 02:47:51 It might be a little, you might not enjoy it. Remember, J-Cal Zero, Rod Dew, Zero. All right, everybody. Mike's J-Cal will be on Gummies next time. Now, that would be hilarious. Two Just Baker and the show mix is coming up. And after that, we've got bowl after bowl, Sir Spencer and Dame DeLorean.
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