No Filler Music Podcast - Controlled Chaos: The Intoxicating Shoegaze of Swirlies

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

Considered by many to be one of America's best entries into the shoegaze genre during its 90s heyday, we talk about Swirlies' 1996 record They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days in the Glittering World of the Salons. The band spent a long time in the studio with this record, going on to refer to it as their "longest labor of love". The result is a collection of wide-ranging styles that blend lo-fi, noise pop,  grunge, and even electronica with their shoegaze sound. And with lead singer Damon Tutunjian's affinity for creating mixtapes from his youth, the band also incorporates tape loops, white noise, and sampled music into the mix, creating seamless transitions from track to track. Swirlies keep you guessing and constantly subvert expectations throughout the record. Join us as we gush over this incredible record. This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Product availability varies by region. See app for details. And welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gems to fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Travis. I got my brother Quentin with me, of course. as always. And, dude, you know, there's episodes where, like, I go into it super stoked and pumped to share the tunes with you.

And this is one of those episodes, man. I've been very intimately involved with this record the last week, dude. And it's blowing me away again. So we are talking about a band called a band called A. swirlies, and I'm going to say this, there's record name once, and then I'm going to shorten it because it's really long. But the record we're talking about today is called, they spent their wild, youthful days in the glittering world of the salons. It came out in 1996, and it is often referred to as just salons. So as we're going to call it from now on, including

the band, they refer to it as salons. Anyway, so, Q, what did you think of that little guitar intro that we played in. It surprised me like several times, dude, and that was like, what, a 30 second clip, 40 second clip? Dude, that pretty much, what you just said, surprised me several times is a good way to actually sum up kind of what they do. Like, they always keep you on your toes, like throughout each track. You never know what to expect. And yeah, like you said, that's the opening, you know, 45 seconds of track two on the record. And it's really the first song because track one is like this little like sound clip from something. It's called French radio. It's 18 seconds long. That song that we introed us in is called In Harmony Newfound Freedom. And that's kind of really the first

track. But anyway, yeah. So that's a good way to tee it up is to talk about what makes them so different and that's it dude they keep you on your toes and they have a very wide ranging sound I read uh or a way to describe them I think it's perfect my bloody valentine plus Sonic Youth plus

Pixies wow dude you know it's funny I was looking at that album cover it kind of looks like the album cover for Doo Little a little bit yeah it's similar yeah kind of like an illustration with like some

yeah almost like a blueprint looking drawing. But yeah, so this record in particular blends some shoegaze elements to it with Tweed pop. There's that term again here. It keeps popping out. I love it. Tweed pop. But here's what makes it interesting. They blend also into the sound electronica and lo-fi. Wow. And this is 96. Let's just keep that in mind. Yeah. And they've actually been around for longer than that. They, uh, they formed in 1990. Originally, the founding member, he knew this other guitar player. The founding member's name is Damon.

I'm going to butcher this, but Totungian. Interesting. Yeah, whatever. Tatunjin. I didn't bother to look up how to pronounce it. But anyway, him and this other guitar guy that he knew named Shiana Carmody formed a Go-Go's cover band in Boston with a local. punk guy. That's interesting as well.

Yeah. And a Go-Go's cover band. I want to hear some of that. Right, right. But they actually formed a band because they wanted to write original stuff called Raspberry Bang. And they did put out a seven-inch record. I couldn't find it like any clips from it or anything like that. But long story short, they very quickly enlisted his high school friend Andy Burnick to play bass and a number. another guy named Ben Drucker to play drums. And that is basically the original lineup of Swirleys. And one thing that I've read about these guys is that if you look at the list of members, it's pretty long. Like they recycled members quite a bit. And they were doing this while they were in

like college. And so they were talking about in an interview how like maybe Andy had to miss a few shows because he had to study for something or whatever. So they just pulled in like a friend to like tour with them or something like that so like it was this kind of like evolving door kind of thing and look at this name dude kurt vile oh actually was a member he only appeared on um on one of the records and he basically it sounds like you can just hear him his he lended his vocals in the background for a track and that's it so it's like he was a legitimate member but anyway uh damon and andy burnick are really the the only two members that have been there basically since the beginning, right?

It seems like it's always only two surviving members, just like last week when we were talking about, Swarv Driver. It's like two main ones that make it through and through. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely, I mean, the current lineup right now has been pretty consistent since like 98, you know? Yeah.

But one thing I wanted to point out is there's a female vocalist that shows up. on this record. And she's one of my favorite parts of the record. Actually, the vocals in general, Damon's vocals and Christina Files is her name. She joined after about, you know, two records in. But their kind of playback or they're kind of back and forth that they do is what makes this record really stand out. We've talked about how female vocalist and Shuegays is like a perfect match, right?

Right. Would you consider this a ShoeGays record? Shue Gays is one of the genres for sure. But it's also going to borrow a line from the lead singer of Catherine Wheel and say that, you know, this band is all about the noise, too. And they have a, the noise pop, noise rock label also gets attributed to them. And that maybe is the Sonic Youth comparisons that they get. Because, you know, Sonic Youth was kind of a noise rock band too, right? Yeah.

And I wonder if they get the comparisons to Piac. Pixies and Sonic Youth because of the female vocals. You know, you got the two, the two Kim's in both those bands. Her vocals are way softer than, like, Kim, you know, from Sonic Youth. Actually, they're both named Kim. Right. Pixies. Yeah.

Anyway. Kim from Pixies went on to form Cannonballs. Cannibals. Is that the name of the band? No, Cannonball is the name of the single. Breeders, the Breeders. Yeah. Anyway, just wanted to pull.

that other. So you probably know her from that more so than her time on the Pixies. But anyway, so like I said, I have a ton of tunes and we're just going to play tunes, dude. I've got five tracks for us to play. And some of them you really, because of like what I said earlier where like they keep you on your toes like throughout a song, you really have to listen to a good chunk of it to hear and appreciate all the different twists and turns that they're incorporating in the song. So some of these clips are going to be a little bit lengthy. But one thing I wanted to point out about this particular record is the producer. So his name is Rich Costi, and he played a very important role in our lives, Q, in the records that he's produced. He's done a bunch of muse stuff, like the records

that we were, that we were all about, like Absolution. Yes. Most of about showbiz kids or whatever. Yeah. Man, I haven't thought about those health. and probably since high school, man. He's done, basically he did all of the swirly stuff, the early swirly stuff, including this record. But he's done Raging Against Machine. He's done Fiona Apple. He's done block party silent alarm. Oh, there is.

But most important, the Q, KVN's Antenna. Oh, man. Okay. So, you know how great that record scene is right. Yeah. So anyway, wanted to point that out. So here we go. die right into cue. This is one of my favorite, I think I mentioned this last week, two of my favorite

shoegays songs under the wide umbrella of shoegays, two of my favorite songs are on this record, and this is one of them. So here we go. This is track number four on the record. And this song is called Sounds of Seabree. Yeah, I love her voice. But Damon was also singing. They were kind of trading back and forth. I don't know if you could. tell or not. Their vocals are very, very similar, which I think is interesting. They kind of remind me of Kings of Convenience. You know how similar their vocals are? Oh, yeah. And how soft, right? Quiet as the new lap. Yeah, I mean, I guess I wasn't really, you know, focusing enough on it. You know, just kind of passively listening. I wasn't. So yeah, it didn't really pick up on that. But I liked,

you know, right before you faded it out, that kind of like robotic. effect. That reminded me very much of like Moon Safari, Taki-Walki-Walky era air. So that's like that French pop stuff that they were doing in like the early 2000s.

That's cool, man. Yeah, definitely some left turns there, like you said. Yeah, and like, the thing about this band, like, they cramps so much into such a short amount of time. Like, the way their vocals are always so soft, or at least on this record, I feel like it's this perfect, like, companion, I guess, to

the noise rock that they do. Right. Because our vocals are always soft. Well, that's something that, you know, that a lot of Shugay's records do. Yeah, my bloody Valentine, especially, right? Right, where the vocals are kind of laid down and away. Drown down almost. Yeah, exactly. And that's exactly what, what this band kind of does, too, because the vocals are always soft. And I, I love the way that it kind of partners with all the stuff that they're doing with their instruments. Like, and then like you said, that like robotic type kind of voice almost. Yeah, that was really cool. That's probably like the electronica aspect of them.

Does that show up at all again? Or is that just on that one song? It does show up again. But like, okay. So I'm going to read an actual quote here from the interview because it's kind of hints at what they're what they're doing here with that. But there was an interview they did. with sphsonic.com, which is San Francisco Sonic, I guess.

In this interview, the guy kind of talks about this kind of stuff. He says, a big part of your music is tape loops, white noise, and sampled music, especially on the Blonder Tongue record. And that is the record, I think, came out. Yeah, that was the one that came out before this record. but that's kind of what they were doing here, right? Tape recordings and stuff like that. And the lead singer, Damon, says, yeah, sometimes that's just something we always did, just tape things.

He said, Brab and I were taking sound design classes, and we were all into lofi and taping. He said, he had to remember all kids in the 80s had tape recorders. So you'd make little remixes yourself. You'd make mixtapes. and the interviewer says so it was a novelty thing to do back then he says yeah it was what a lot of people did back then like i remember making my own remixes of cure songs right stuff like that so anyway they brought that kind of thing in the studio with them yeah that is that's cool that they brought that in having done it just you know leisurely as kids growing up in the 80s yeah and when you listen to this record like i said

the very opening track is like this 18 second like it sounds like a sampled like recording from like some French radio station or something like that. That's what it is. Like making like that's kind of stuff you do on a mixtape. Right. You and I used to do this all the time on our old music blog. All the time, dude. It was a blast. And we'd throw in like random stuff like that all the time. Yep. But yeah, in the 80s you were literally doing it on on tapes, right? Mixed tapes. That's kind of what he was talking about. But anyway, so you'll hear that a little bit throughout some of this stuff. But there are tracks throughout the record that are like,

you'll see like 30 seconds here, like a 57 second track there. Yeah. It's mostly those, they're making these like transitions and stuff. Kind of like a mixtape, right? That's kind of like the art of mixtapes, right? So anyway,

let's move on in the next track here, Q. And this song, if you're a long time, no filler listener, you may recognize it because I brought it as a, what you heard once upon time. but we're going to play it again because it's one of my favorite tracks ever under the shoe gaze umbrella and it's just it's just fucking awesome man it's a blast and we're actually going to split up into two

clips because I want to play I want to very specifically play this one thing that happens in the second part of the clip the song but anyway so here you go this song is called san cristobal de las casas not crystal ball Christobal Cristobol Cristobo San Cristobal de las Casas

there we go It's like controlled chaos Like I feel like it's very Everything's all Much more intentional And like thought out And maybe I'm wrong

But you know They're compared to Sonic Youth But that was kind of like The opposite of how Sonic Youth approached their songs You know It's kind of you know The whole good enough mentality

Let's move on kind of thing I feel like this is Kind of the opposite It seems very controlled and thought out. Yeah, but it's like, you know, Sonic Youth would devolve into like that kind of chaotic stuff like on stage and whatnot. Yeah.

And yeah, like you said, Surreleys is doing it in like a controlled way where like that's what I like about the soft vocals because like during some of the diverse here like his vocals nice and soft but in the background like it's there's all sorts of stuff going on. Yeah. But it sounds somehow like very purposeful. contained, you know. Let me just say it on record here. That should be the name of the title for this episode, Control Chaos.

Yeah, dude. So San Cristobal de Las Casas is actually a town in Chiapas, Mexico. There was this revolutionary group that emerged in the 80s and in 94. So two years prior to the recording of this record, possibly while he was writing the song, took over multiple towns in the state, including San Francisco. First of all, and there's that line in the song where he repeats the word Zapata. Zapata is the name of the Mexican, like basically it was the leader of the Mexican Revolution who inspired the Zapitismo movement.

Anyway, so this song is about this taking over of some towns and stuff in the 80s and in the 90s. A bit of a history lesson. A bit of a revolutionary group, yeah. That's why in the The lyrics are straight up It says San Crystal Balley Las Casas After six weeks of clashes Army bombed villages

In the Southern Mountains There you go cute A little bit of history lesson There's a song for everything Shugays and History Pretty good Pretty good pair right there All right I'm going to play the next clip here

And don't adjust your iPod Or whatever you're listening to it Because it's not broken All right I'm just going to say that You'll see what I'm talking about here we go. So I'm going to just pick this up where we left off. Here is the second clip from this song, San Cristobal de las Casas.

That was really cool, man. If that was spinning on my turntable, I would have thought for sure it would have got, like, skipped and got stuck in a loop. I've played this song in my office before back when I went into my office. And people would say, is it skipping? My wife said that, too, and I play this in the car. Yeah. So, first of all, MP3s don't skip. It's not a CD player, okay. But anyway, like, it's hard to pull that off, right?

And to do it in a way that, like, it's obviously very repetitive, right? And, like, I like it when Benz do that. We are all about repetition on no filler. Yeah, I, because you're anticipating the change. And they carry, like, they hold this for several measures or whatever the term. I mean, no, it's almost animal. collective level repetition where it just drags on but in a good way yeah yeah that's one of the things that uh i think i talked about that on um the drop 19s episode that we did on kick the tragedy

and how repetitive it is but the the payoff is what what they give you like six five or six minutes in when that when she starts doing that spoken word thing the the singer for one of the singers of drop 19th, right? It's all about the buildup and the expectation of what's going to have next. And I think that's what Swirley's does so well is because you don't know what the heck's going to happen from song to song, you're always kept on your toes. And so they don't do that anytime else on the record. I mean, they kind of draw stuff out sometimes, but not to that extent. But anyway, I really like that part of the song. And I love how. they bring everything back.

I love that really loud guitar moment that happens a couple times on this song. You know, that's the noise rock that they're going to do really well. Definitely. But the repetition is also something that

Shugay is known for, right? Speaking of like, so one of the reasons that this record, and you'll hear it pretty well, but like the next three songs is a good example of this. Like there's a lot of different styles of music on this record.

And that's because they spent the most time recording this record than any other record. Like it's, they spanned several. I don't know if it spanned like a full year or two, but like they spent a lot of time on this record. So here's a little quote here. It says the band had spent considerably more time in the studio. sequencing salons than they had their previous records, resulting in seamless transitions between varied styles of music, giving it the feel of a well-crafted mixtape. Bandleader Damon later called the record the band's longest labor of love.

So, as a mixtape aficionado, as he had mentioned, he is, right? I mean, I can see how the longer you spend on something, like you're going to focus on the transitions and stuff. And, like, if you are well-versed in the art of mixtapes, like, that's something you think about. Like, how does this, like, play from track to track, you know, something that you care about? And, like, with this record, especially, and those two songs are back-to-back on the record, by the way, sounds of Seabring and San Cristobal.

And the way they transition them are really, is pretty good. I didn't actually play it. But anyway, that's just something to keep in mind is this is one of those records that you would want to play from start to finish to appreciate the transitions. especially the way that they throw in these like tracks that are really just aimed as like a transition. That speaks to the environment that Rich allowed them to have in the studio too, you know, because I bet that they sat down with him and, you know, had a major role in the decisions too, you know, for each track and for the transitions between the tracks, you know, so that's really cool.

Yeah, so like here, let me read this here, because this kind of talks, this kind of explains why it took them so long. So mixing for the record was initially attempted at this place called sound techniques in the Finway. But the band was not satisfied with the mixes and remixed over half the record at Looking Glass in NYC, typically spending a day or more per song. Wow. I think we've talked about that too at some point. There's bands where that has happened where an album is mixed and they're just not happy with it. That happened with Loveless, dude.

Like, they, I want to say they went to like four or five different studios before they were satisfied. Yeah. And you can see how, like, for Shugays, where it's all about the reverb and the effects and stuff. Like, yeah, you probably got a, you're probably going to obsess a little bit more on the, uh, on the mix, you know, and getting it just right. Let me shout out to the drummer too, dude. I love the drummer. Yes. I haven't, I haven't mentioned that yet.

But yeah, dude, I'm a big fan of that stuff. Yeah. Anthony DeLuca is his name. Yeah. And that to me lends itself to that kind of controlled chaos vibe that I get from how they approach the recording. Like his drums sound not sloppy, but like chaotic, you know, in a way. But it is, it's very, it's repetitive in all the right ways. And it's definitely, it's all very intentionally.

You can just, you can just tell. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's move right along here. So I'm going to jump a few tracks down. This song is called Two Girls Kissing.

Solid track, man. I think this is the grungiest they get on the record because it's very, it's very, it's grungy. It's heavy. Yeah. The guitar sound is very, very, very grunge-esque, right? So, yeah, that was awesome, man. And that one section of the song where it, I guess the most repetitive, part of the song.

Yep. It sounded almost like it was like perpetually. It sounded like it was detuning. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. Yeah, they will do stuff like that where it's like the tone changes of the guitar.

Kind of like what the effect that you get with the glide guitar method, you know, that Kevin Shields did. But yeah, that was cool, man. But again, man, every time you listen to each track, you'll hear something different.

Like there's so many, so many little. little, you know, nuances to each song. Yeah, it's just one of those things where, like, you have to, you got to spend a lot of time with this band to really, like, every time you'll hear something new and you'll appreciate something different. That's what's so great about these songs. And like, like, like, we were saying, like, just on this song alone, like, how many different,

how many times did they change it up, right? Yeah, it started off with Christine singing and then, you know, a decent amount, a decent way through it, Damien pops in. Yeah, and then it just, and then it picks up on that heaviness and the grunginess. Yeah. Halfway through. And it just jams out for like a solid minute, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So quick sidebar. This sound, I guess this more heavier sound reminded me, and the back and forth with the vocals, reminded me of that group should that I brought to our April, what you heard. Um, an album of those called Feed Like Fishes came out in nine. So just a couple years after this

Just wanted to throw that out there Y'all might like that album If you haven't checked it out yet Yeah, if you like this You might like that kind of like Yeah, but it's way more shoegays You know like like wall of sound Shugays

More classic Shugay sound But they've got a great kind of back and forth With the way they sing and that goes And you know all their records They've been around for a while so anyways Just a quick sidebar Anyway yeah Just a solid track

you like you said. This is actually their most played track on Spotify at least. So, well, that's not true. There's actually a song called Pancake that beats it out. But on this record at least, this is- Oh, it's because you can't beat pancakes, dude. Just in general. That's true. That's a good rule in life. You can't be painful. Waffles, though. Come on. Yeah. I think we're both on the same page there. Speaking of Waffles, are you caught up on Stranger Things season four? We just watched episode five. So we'll be watching. Watching episode six tonight.

It's good, man. It's good. And you know what? I haven't gone back and listened to it yet, but I was noticing that the soundtrack seemed a little bit more, at more depth to it and stuff like that. And more like, sounds like the, you know, what are those guys, Kyle Dixon and something, Lambert? Maybe I'm, I might be thinking about the, yeah. Okay, Kyle Dixon and Michael Stein, you know, I'm pretty sure I brought a Stranger Things track, like the themes. was on our best of like the decade.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Because it's such an iconic song. Definitely worthy of being on a top. Yeah. Well, that's, you know,

like TV intros, you know, most like Netflix. Yeah, you can skip the intro, right? Right. You never skipped the Stranger Things intro, dude. You got to hear that song every time.

Get you pumped up. Yeah. Anyway. But yeah, dude, I personally, I'm a waffles guy over a pancake guy. Yeah, if I have a choice.

Waffles for sure. I'm with you for there. Anyway, I was just pointing out that Two Girls Kissing is the most played track on this record on Spotify. So this song gets a lot of love. But anyway, you could see why. It's a good representation of everything that Sorrelies does really well. Anyway, so let's move on in the next track here. And it is the next track on the record. And this is the perfect example of the electronica elements that they add to this record.

So this song, I'm pretty sure, because I'm seeing on the liner notes for this record, that Damon is credited for the vocoder. So that's his voice doing that robot kind of thing, right? But also for drum machine and samples. So I'm guessing that this is a drum machine that you're going to hear. But anyway, here we go. This song is called Sterling Moss. Yeah, I can see why you got to play a lengthy clip. just with how much it changes

even if it's subtle you have to yeah so yeah that those drums definitely had a sampled looped kind of vibe to it but what a different sound than any of the other songs that I play that song

felt like a Beck song you know like mellow gold I was thinking the same back which came out in 94 yes so you know all kind of in the same yeah minus the vocals obviously because Beck's And the lyrics. Right.

Dude, we got to do that. We got to do an episode on that record. Right. Dude, it's funny. The only, we have covered Beck, but it was C-Change, which is. Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a Nile Godrich record. Yeah, yeah.

Well, we should do. It's totally different from everything else that he's done. We should do either mellow gold or, what's the other one? With the freaking shaggy. O'Dillay. We should do. O'Dillet. or maybe a combination of both of those.

Anyway, that would be an interesting place to go. Yeah. Part of me wants to stay in the 90s for the whole year if we can, you know, even if it means transition to a different genre, I just kind of want to keep this training. A different style of 90s, yeah. Yeah. Well, Beck definitely defies genre, but for sure.

Yeah, that record. You want to talk about like an alt, alt rock record, maybe, if you want to call it that. All right. I got one more track cue. And this one, you really do got to play a very lengthy clip. But get ready to float. We're going to go out just with smiles, dude, all smiles. This song is great.

Just go ahead and get your mouth in a smile shape because this song just makes you happy, dude. All right, dude. I'm ready to smile. You ready? I'm ready. All right. The song is called Sun. The absolute delight of a song, dude.

And you know, it's interesting. Like, right when you press play on it, it was kind of like, like the chords were minor, you know? Like, and then it kind of, and then it turned into, it felt like very smashing pumpkins. Like, it sounded to me like 1979.

Interesting. When it all came in. That's a good, that's a good call, yeah. Which is one of, you know, that's a song that I can't help but smile and float around the room and when I hear it. Yeah. Instantly. Instantly. Yeah.

Yeah. And like you can totally hear the influence that this band had on indie bands that we listen to. I guess, you know, we've talked about this a lot, but like dream pop and shoegaze, two sides of the same coin or whatever. You can hear her vocals especially like. kind of leans more toward the dream pop, you know, side of the spectrum. And, like, I heard some Andrea Estrella of twin sister, of Mr. Twin Sister. Maybe their first record. With that kind of breathy.

Before they got more kind of dancing electronici, like maybe the first record, where they were really more dream pop. Like all along in the way we got. What is it? I'm going to name the record. This is before they went by Mr. Twin Sister. They just went by a twin sister. But yeah, the dream pop of the 2000s, the 2010s that you and I listened to quite a bit.

One of my favorite songs from the 2010s, dude, Lady Daydream. I love that song. But anyway, you can totally hear the influence that this band had on countless bands that came out like in the next decade plus, right? but I wanted to play the clip basically I want to prove the point that you never know what to expect in these songs I'm going to let the song pick back up and play out

to close us out here so here we go I'm going to push play again again this song is called Sun like the last 20 seconds that they're on a whole two different kind of vibe totally different drum beat yeah the drums that's that's one of my favorite beats any variation of that that beat. I love playing that beat too. That's one of my favorite beats. Yeah. Well, anyway, there you go, man. That was the swirlies. And I think that's a pretty good representation of this record.

What an awesome, awesome album. Yeah. It's easily top five, top ten, you know, maybe shoegaze slash dream pop records of all time for me. Easy. And like a lot of people kind of reference the band in general as like one of the greatest American Shugee bands and you know the press kind of would say back in the 90s that this was like

America's answer to my bloody Valentine isn't like as if like we have to have our own version I don't know like it's kind of weird but I mean like

you know this was although the funny thing is the same thing was said about drop 19 so like between drop 19s and swirlies like this was America's like two of our best, I guess, entries into the shoegays.

Here's our offering. Yeah, here's what we got, which is great, because, like, what an awesome record. Yeah, between Drop 19's Delaware, which came out in 92, and Swirley's, I guess I'm going to say the name again, they spent their wild youthful days in the glittering world of the salons. Yeah, I guess I never really thought about that, you know, where the, where the, where the, bands reside. Yeah. And when it comes to shoegays, you know, I guess a lot of it is from the UK.

Right. Yep. Exactly. So anyway, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's great, man. Go back and listen to this record all the way through.

I don't know if I have to say that or not. But I mean, like I said, I've been like those six songs, especially, including the intro track that I played. Yeah, man, I've been, I've been heavy, heavy repeat the last week kind of prepping for this episode. It's just like, man, what a solid record. So anyway, yeah, that was it. So next week, do we have a band picked out yet?

Or I guess we have one more episode and then we'll have a What You Heard for June. Yeah, I got a couple albums that I want to play from from this band called Sloan, which I brought a song from their album twice removed as What You Heard Pick. a while ago, probably over a year ago. They are from Canada, another band that they're still going strong, but they started in 91. This is going to be more on the indie rock, alt rock, no shoegays at all.

But these guys, this is another band that surprised me, you know? Yeah. Just like Swirley did for you. So we're going to bring some songs from the, their debut record smeared, which came out in 92, and then their second album twice removed, which came out in 94. So that's going to be great, dude. I'm excited to share it with you.

Cool. And, you know, that's the name of my cat. That's right. I did not name the cat after this band, though. I named the cat after the character in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, just if you're wondering. No, I wonder if this band named themselves after the Fair? named themselves after slime.

Maybe. I'll look into it, dude. I'll let you know. Maybe. The movie had definitely come out by the time they formed, huh? 87 is when it came out. All right. So, shoutouts.

We get enough interaction from our listeners now that we can have weekly shoutouts, which is pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Keep it coming. I wanted to, we both wanted to give a shout out to somebody named Ezra. who reached out to us on Instagram and sent, like, sent, like, this really amazing message to us about... You want to talk about floating around the room.

Yeah, dude. Smiles for miles, you know. Smiles for miles. I don't know if I want to read the whole thing, but I really... Yeah, I liked the concept of... of you sort of think about us as your two older brothers that show you all the cool music. that you haven't even dreamed of. I mean, that's fucking great, man.

I will gladly be one of your series. An older brother figure. Yeah, that's awesome, man. I love that, yeah. So he found our podcast a couple years ago because of our episode on Fleet Fox's Helplessness Blues. He says Fleet Foxes has been my favorite band since I developed my own taste in music

and means a lot to me. So, yeah, he connected with us over that record. And, yeah, he's been listening ever since. So thank you so much, Ezra, for the kind words and the love. Right back at you, man. I feel like you're a younger brother to us as well. That's right. As music fans, yeah.

So thank you so much for reaching out to us. And he also suggested a band. I won't mention the name, but maybe we'll bring it as a what-you-heard outro. Yeah. pick. I want to say that I'm familiar with this group. We'll talk about it on our

what you heard. But yeah, thanks for the suggestion. We'll definitely give him a listen. This person's, I mean, he's still active, this musician. The band is called Eels. I don't know why we're hunting it. Yeah, you recommended this guy,

he goes by the name Eels. He put out a record in 2022, so he just put out a new record called Extreme Witchcraft. Sweet. I'll check it out. for sure. Wow, he's been around since 96. Yeah, man. And he appears on multiple Shrek records, which is Shrek soundtracks, which is interesting, kid. Interesting.

All right. So he might be still catching that check. You know what, dude, I feel like Smash Mouth just, they didn't have to do it. Once they put out, you know, I'm a believer, an All-Star, once those two songs were associated with Shrek, I feel like, They're done. They're done, dude. They're done. They don't have to work a day again in their lives.

I was thinking about the song All Star the other day. That song gets in my head sometimes. Somehow it gets into my head too. There's something about, there's got to be some scientific reason why that song is so catchy. Yeah. But anyway. I'm not welcoming it. Yeah, that's true.

It creeps its way. I don't know that I want it. in my head, but, you know. But anyways, thank you. Thank you, Ezra, for reaching out to us. Yes, definitely thank you. Thank you for your, for your kind words. It means the world to us, really.

Right back at you. All right. So, yeah. Anyway, Instagram, you can follow us and interact with us there. Just look for no feeler podcast. I'm going to keep asking until somebody says, yeah or nay. Tell me if you want T-shirts.

Would you want to wear a note? filler t-shirt. Basically, we just want to make t-shirts. Yeah, I, yeah. I want to make t-shirts and provide them for you all. Yeah. Would you wear them? Would you rock a no-filler t-shirt?

Let us know. Email us at no-filler podcast.gmail.com if you don't feel like messing with Instagram, and let us know. Yeah. And if we get enough people that say, yay, then we'll figure out a way to make some for you. Yep. That's right. And we'll try to keep the price, you know, as cheap as possible.

Yeah. Well, you can also find us on the Pantheon Podcast Network. Go to pantheonpodcast.com to find many other great music-related podcasts. The network is the home of music-centric podcast. There is nothing else on there except for music-related podcasts. So chances are, if you like our podcast, you'll probably find some more under the network umbrella that you like. So yeah, search anywhere you get your podcast.

You can find Pantheon podcast to get the entire feed. So if you follow the feed, you'll get our weekly episodes in there as well, along with every other shows episodes. So anyway, Pantheonpodcast.com. And yeah, that's it. So next week we will talk about Sloan. and I'm just going to actually let, I'm going to let that intro track that we played,

play us out because I feel like you didn't really get to appreciate it aside from the sweet guitar intro. So, yeah, we're going to close out with the song, In Harmony, Newfound Freedom by the Swirlies. And yeah, we will talk to you guys next week. My name is Travis. And I'm Quentin. Take care.