No Filler Music Podcast - Dreamy Fuzzy Breezy: Ovlov's Buds

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

We take a break from the 90s and spend some time in this decade with a deep dive into a fantastic little indie record from 2021: Ovlov's Buds. Coming in at just under 25 minutes in length, this record is the perfect collection of short, poppy, indie rock gems that pack a punch. Soft vocals and melodies contrasted by moments of disorienting low end and cranked up fuzz a la J Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. make this record stand out in the slew of bedroom pop, punk-leaning indie records. And as an added bonus: there's even an impromptu saxophone solo snuck in for good measure. Need I say more? Tracklist Ovlov - Baby Shea Ovlov - Eat More Ovlov - Strokes Ovlov - Cheer Up, Chihiro! Ovlov - Feel the Pain Ovlov - The Wishing Well This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Hi, I'm Weird Al Yankovic, and you're listening to the Pantheon Network. And welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms. To fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Travis. Got my brother Quentin with me, of course.

And that was the song Baby Shea by the Newtown, Connecticut indie rock band Avlov off of their 2021 record, Buds. And that is what we're talking about today. Q, just a solid indie album from this decade, man. I feel like we don't. I feel like we're always hanging out in the 90s. You know, the farthest we get into the, you know, 2000s is like, well, like the first decade of the 2000s, you know. I feel like I could probably count on my 10 fingers the amount of episodes that we've covered from a band from this era, I mean, from this decade in the last year, like calendar year, like 12 months in the last like 12 months. Yeah.

Maybe even longer. Meaning like the 2020s, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously on our what you heards all the time we're playing stuff from new tracks from the 2020s. I'm just saying like, yeah, a deep dive episode into a modern band doesn't happen very often. You know what? I think, I mean, I know we covered Fleafox's new album when that dropped, like right after that dropped. Right. That's right. You know, it's flea foxes. And we're talking about Kings of Convenience. I don't know if we did a full episode. Did we? Oh, yeah. We definitely did. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Anyway, it doesn't happen often. It doesn't happen often.

And when it's an indie, you know what? I say indie. That was getting like some old school third wave emo. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. And I'm all for it. And I'm kind of, I'm coming in blind here, Trev.

Yeah. Or deaf. I don't know how you do you want to say it. But I don't know much about this album. I don't know much about this group. I recognize the album cover, but like, yeah, I haven't spent any time with these songs. So I'm excited. Yeah, it's great, man.

So I brought a song for either it was a what you heard or it was a it was a best of. It might have been best of for 2021. Let me see if I can track down the episode. But yeah, you have heard at least one of these songs and I am going to bring it again later because it's a really great track. Best of 2021 part two. There you go. So these guys have been featured on the show before. But yeah, so like you said, maybe a little bit of emo there.

But that's what's great about this record is it's wide-ranging in its like sound and influence and so like that. But like at this, like at its core, it's just a really solid indie record. And with Oblov in particular, this is kind of considered to be like their most, I guess, polished and like poppy record, which is kind of interesting because like their earlier stuff. So they came out with their debut record in 2013. So they've been doing this for over a decade called AM or AM, actually, not AM. Am. And that was more kind of fuzzy, lo-fi, kind of punk-ish a little bit. And then they came out with True in 2018, which is kind of starting to get toward this sound that they've, that they have.

And I say it's mostly the lead singer Steve Hartlett, who is responsible for all the songwriting. And he's just solid, man. I guess one thing I will say is on their first record, Am, and they get compared a lot to Dinosaur Jr. And you can see why there's a song on Am that just sounds exactly like, you know, the way Jay Mascus sings and the way he structures a song and stuff like that. But super fuzzy guitar. Super fuzzy guitar. Yeah, the cadence in his voice and all that stuff. So let me name the roster here real quick.

So this is kind of cool cue. This is, like I said, Steve Hartlett. Theo Hartlett on drums, John Hartlett on bass. Those are his brothers. So it's a family affair, cue. And then a longtime friend, Morgan Luzi, on guitar. But I will say this, and this is one of the things I love about this particular record. He is joined by a few backing vocalists that really kind of elevate these songs.

I'll name them here. Aaron McGrath and Alex Gehring and Jordan Blakely. Three different female singers lend their vocals on several tracks for like backup vocals and stuff and they're the stars of the show here, man, for sure. Anyway, that's cool. So, yeah, what's interesting about this record and I think it's funny because we actually covered this record. at least we covered this band a few months ago. I'm going to quote Steve here real quick, and then we'll get into the first track. He was being interviewed by Stereo Gom, and he said,

I've always really liked pretty music, and I've always liked really heavy music. And I just felt like it'd be nice to have a band where it's like, originally I was thinking the deaf tones without screaming, but faster drums, deaf tones with a punk rhythm, but not quite as gothic. And then it's funny because the interview was like, I never think of deaf tones when I listen to your music. He's like, well, their music isn't as much of an influence as it's really just the way he sings over such heavy music.

Yeah, yeah. I really like, he says, I really think it's a cool contrast. They weren't the first band to do that, but they were the first band in my life like that. So again, the first track we played was Baby Shay. that was track one. And it was a minute and 38 seconds, really short song,

but it blends in really well to this next track. So here we go. This is track two on the record, and I think you're going to hear an immediate difference cue. The song is called Eat More. Fuzz at the end there just came out of left field. Yeah, that was awesome.

And there's that contrast that he's talking about that he loves about like a deaf tone. record, right? Like super heavy music over like really soft singing. Yeah, and those backing vocals were super subtle, man. Super subtle, but. So that was Alex. So I'm going to shout out who the singer was for each track. Because like I said, there's like three different female vocalists that he's, that he's pulling in throughout. Alex is in Ringo, Death Star. Alex J-ring? Mm-hmm. Okay, then. Well, there's some, uh, some shoegays sneaking in here. Yeah. Had to do it.

That's awesome. Had to drop the word shoegaze on the episode. We got to do it. Well, here's something that I, so I'm reading from an all, from allmusic.com, a review on the record. For 2021's Buds, Steve Hartlett dug through old demos to find songs that were deemed too light at the time. Yeah. Plus he wrote a few that fit the brief. He was asked by the stereo come interviewer.

He said, you were talking about earlier how you get tired of your songs pretty quickly. So I'm wondering if you're kind of tired of the songs from this new record since it's been a while since you made them. And yeah, so what he says here is like some of the songs like Land of Stevo and Eat More were songs that I wrote and demoed before True even came out. I just felt like they were too poppy for True. So we just kind of sat on them. So yeah, for this record in particular. And True came out in 2018, right? Yeah.

So yeah, he's been sitting on these for a while. but, and same with a lot of these tracks. And, well, I'll talk about it later, but one of the tracks that we're going to play is a song that they always played live but just never put it on a record. Oh, cool. So yeah, this is kind of like a collection of songs

that just didn't fit with the sound that they were doing at the time or whatever the record is that they were putting out. They couldn't piece it in in another record. Yeah, exactly. And maybe that's why these songs are so wide-ranging because, you know, some of the, you know, he had written years ago.

Yeah, the track that we're going to play later, Cheer Up Chihiro, or Chihiro, Chihiro, they've been playing it live for like a decade. So, yeah, I mean, he's been living with these songs for a long time. Oh, isn't that the anime character? Yeah, it's a song. That's the song that we covered. That was our best of 21. One of our best of 2021 tracks.

Yeah, we'll get to it in a little bit. But yeah, the song is a make-believe-believe. letter to the spirited away protagonist. Spirited away. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Let's jump to the next track here.

We're going to skip ahead a couple tracks. By the way, this is a very, very short record. Eight tracks long, less than 30 minutes. So it's a, I mean, it's, you know, the whole record is a, is a true no-feeler record. So it's hard to really narrow it down here. But so I'm going to skip us a couple ahead here. And we're going to play a song called Strokes.

Short and sweet. Oh, that was cool. Yeah. Stopped on a dime. There's this punk drums, dude. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so this is from that Studio Gum interview that came out right before this record

dropped. Speaking about the singer, said Heartlet has devoted his entire life to music. He has a solo project called Stove. Have you heard of Stove before, Q? I don't think so. He plays in longtime collaborator Jordan Blase. Blakely's band Smile Machine from time to time.

And by the way, that was her on the backing vocals for that track. Smile Machine. Smile Machine, yeah. And he releases some music under just his full name. And there are probably other vessels for which engages in music making or playing. Their music, for the most part, has retained a distinctive, fast, fuzzy sound in line with indie and alternative staples like Dinocort Jr. built to spill and early foo fighters. So that's interesting.

Early foo fighters. I think I can hear that. Yeah. Especially if you listen to some of the other stuff. Yeah, that's cool. But yeah, he's just a really good songwriter. I think that's what jumps out. I mean, when I listen to this record,

everything just sounds so like perfectly placed. Yeah. And like intentional. So like here's another quote. I'm just, I'm quote, today's about quotes, Q. Steve has to. No one wants to hear what we have to say. No, this is more important to hear.

from Sadie Dupuis of Speedy Ortiz, another band I've never heard of. She says, Steve has a sense of melody that almost feels classical, like a song you can't believe didn't exist before he wrote it. Wow, that's cool. That's a good quote. Yeah, that guitar solo at the end of that track, that was him. He's the guitar player, one of the guitar players in this record. It's always nice to hear a guitar solo in this decade.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, actually going back to Eat More of the track I played earlier, he said that that, that fuzz that you heard, like that just cacophony kind of of sound and stuff, he said it was one of his favorite guitar parts that he ever written. And he wanted to have that kind of like fuzz sound at the end, overtake the song because it was such a lyrical song that he needed to like offset it with some guitar. You know, that's why I just threw all that stuff at the end of the record just to kind of balance it out. Well, it works really well.

Yeah, it does. Let's take a quick break. For this next track, we're going to have to split it into two clips because it's long and because there's a very important piece of this track that we didn't actually play on the best of 2021 episode. I think I faded it before. But I'm not even going to talk about it. We're just going to let it happen. and I'm going to give a shout out to the man responsible for it, which is kind of cool.

So, again, this song is called Cheer Up Chihiro. It's about a, it's written as if it's a make-believe letter to the spirited away protagonist. And again, this was a, this has been a demo for years. They said that he wrote this as a demo for the debut record, again, which came out like 2013. 2013. Yeah, the song's been around forever, but it's just, it's such a solid track. And yeah, again, too poppy for the earlier records. That's why they shelved it.

But on this record, it works perfectly. It says here, it finds a home here flipping between spidery, spidery arpeggios, punishing low end and vocal counterpoint by, here we go, Q, Ringo, Death Stars, Alex Jering. So she's going to sing vocals on this one, backup vocals. And here we go. So again, this is Cheerup Chihiro. And this one is a fucking doozy man. But we're going to split it into two parts. Here we go.

And I love that drum beat. Yeah. And the minor tones that kick off. I mean, this whole song is like super, it's like dark sounding a little bit. And I think there's some like, you know, I appreciate the particular tone on the guitar, during the chorus at least. it's got kind of the, you know, the grunge fuzz to it, you know, and sort of like grudge core progression and stuff, which is cool.

And again, like that's kind of like what he's saying, like what, you know, how he, he does the quiet and soft contrast really well, you know, and I think that chorus, like when the, because, yeah, during the verse, it's a very clean guitar tone. The lyrics, his voice is very soft, right? But then the chorus, they really crank up that fuzz, right? right? And when we pick up the track here in a second, we're going to hear some more of that really great sort of guitar work by himself. But then actually, let me just read this first. Because I don't know why I'm making this out to be like this some big thing that I'm about to

reveal, but I think it's cool. But anyway, let me just read this quote here. So I remember, like I said, they've been working on this track for over a decade. It was a demo before their, their, their second record came out. He says, I feel we finally nailed it on this album for a few reasons. The drums, bass, guitars, and vocals were all recorded in the session we did with Michael John Thomas for our album True. But again, felt it was too poppy to be on that album. I think the second time we tried recording it was in my parents' basement, probably around

2013 or 2014, for a split we were going to do with Geron. from Chicago. Not Fergus Geronimo. I thought it was Ferguson, Geronimo. Fergus and Geron. Yeah, no, just Geronimo. Though I'm not quite sure why that never came out. Anyway,

anyhow, that night we tried recording Cherubter Hero immediately after we finished, our dad walked in the garage door from a gig. He just played saxophone on a few songs out. We asked if he wanted to rip a quick solo at the end of the song we just did. Wow. And he nailed it.

And that's what we're about to hear. That's awesome, dude. His dad provides a saxophone. Yeah, their dad, that's true. Their dad provides a saxophone solo at the industry. And he just came back home from a gig he was playing. This is a musical family, dude. Yeah.

So anyway, let's hear the dad's saxophone. And yeah, let me tell you, dude. The first time I heard this song, I was like, what am I hearing? Is that a saxophone? Because it comes out of nowhere. It's just funny to think that their dad just walks into the garage where they're recording with his sax around his neck. like, check this on, kids.

Let me show you how dad does it. I just think it's cool that they're like, yeah. Hey, you know what? Can you just like improv a solo real quick for our like indie rock track that we just laid down? Yeah, that's really cool. Anyway, so here's. And I bet his, their dad was just floating on cloud nine. Probably.

When they asked him to join in. Oh, yeah. Anyway, so, um, here's their father, Ted Hartlett. on this saxophone, but we're going to give it a nice runway here because there's a little bit of a guitar situation going on that kind of leads into the saxophone solo. Here we go. So again, this is Cheer Up Chihiro. So there you go, Teddy Hartlett, stepping in.

He got the melody down. Like, if he just walked in and just heard them jamming out to this song for just a little bit and then was able to play that, like it really pairs well with the song. I mean, like, this guy's a professional. He's a pro. Apparently he's famous. So it says at the end of this sentence, I was saying,

the little quote from Steve, he says, we asked if he wanted to rip a quick solo at the end of the song, and he nailed it in one take as to be expected. He's famous. Just Google Ted Hartlett, Fast Fingers. So there you go.

They have a famous saxophone dad. But yeah, so obviously, like, if your dad is like a saxophone dude who I guess is, perhaps famous. I'm not really seeing much evidence of that, but he's well known at least. Then obviously, like, you grew up with music, right?

I mean, think about it. His brother plays drums. His other brother plays bass. He plays guitar and write songs. Their dad's a saxophone player. Yeah, that's their whole life is basically. So like I said earlier, like he, yeah, he's devoted his whole life to it.

He, you know, has another project called stove. He does his own solo stuff. He works with, or, yeah, you know, Jordan Blakely's band or he you know he collaborates with smile machine like this is this guy's life you know what i mean um and yeah like i said earlier this album it's only eight tracks and it's it's short and sweet it's under 25 minutes long and i've always thought about this record as just one collective like thing like i just whenever i'm going to listen to one of the tracks of this record i just hit play on track one and just listen to the whole thing all the way through because it's that good.

All the songs kind of follow each other really well. A lot of times it's like that that, you know, gapless transition between the songs, you know, that most streaming services do nowadays where like they just kind of, it's just cohesive. And it's just funny because these songs, it proves how consistent he's been as a songwriter because these songs have been in the works for years. they weren't written just for this record, and yet they still work really well together. So, like, he's been writing these songs for this record for over a decade now and just never

found a place for them. But, like, he just sort of, like, kind of grabbed them all and said, you know what, this is, we finally have a record here from these tracks that we've been working on. And I don't think that's true for all of these songs. I don't think all of them are demos and stuff. Right. No, they're not. But a few of them are. But it just proves how, how consistent this guy is, now as a songwriter. All right. So this last track is going to be, yeah, just another solid track here.

I mean, they're all solid. Okay. All right, so we're going to close us out here with the last track on the record. This song is called Feel the Pain. That's a really good example of that juxtaposition. Yeah, there's like a double bass drum kind of thing going on there at the end.

And, yeah, just very chaotic. Yep. And it just completely goes against like the very clean guitar tone and his, yeah, his vocals. Right. That song was very light compared to a lot of it. Exactly. Yeah, this all music review, I think sums it up nicely. It says, Buds totally sounds and feels like Avlov.

The difference here is that they add a couple spoonfuls of sugar and a little more jangle than usual. Yeah, the way that the pitchfork review kind of sums it up in a similar way. Yeah, listen to this, this is a good kind of rundown of their discography. While Obloff's 2013 debut Am hit like a stoned peon, see, I don't know why pitchfork I set their own words. And we know something else. Stoned peon to times past and places changed. 2018's true bore the weight of addiction and the death of Hartlett's best friend two years earlier. In the space of 25 minutes, buds continues to.

navigate loss while sounding largely at peace with the world. It's still woolly and doused in fuzz, but the band sounds more lucid than ever before. Calling it their breeziest record yet. And yeah, dude, it's a breezy record, man. That's a good way to describe it. Just, it's like breezy but melancholy. Yeah. And speaking of melancholy, that particular track, feel the pain, is a message to two friends who at that time were my closest friends, Steve talking again and how their attempts at trying to help me through a truly dark period made me feel. So yeah, it's like the subject matter of some of these songs is like dark, you know, but like it's the way it's presented doesn't necessarily come off that way. It's like a very breezy, just, you know,

as pitchforks ended with breezy little indie tracks. Yeah. But then they crank the fuzz up and, you know, bring on like the double bass drum and stuff like that and just kind of like hit you with this like dichotomy in this contrast that like I think really sort of elevates each of these tracks you know yeah really good I'll have to give it a spin yeah like I said 20 less than 25 minutes it's a it's and it's just a solid record man and the funny thing is this is my introduction to the band and so um I haven't really listened to their other two records I've kind of skimmed them just to kind of prepare for this episode because I wanted to kind of see where they had come from to see if there's like a drastic drastic change yeah And it is all very, there's a consistency there, but like there's definitely, you know, the 2013

record, again, that was, you know, over a decade ago, is more, you know, it's a little more rough around the edges. But you can, you can hear just like the basis for like what they became, you know what I mean? Like you can, it's there. And the funny thing is, yeah, I mean, he was right. He wrote Cheer Up Jehiro. Around that time, you know what I mean?

Right. And I'm sure he's been writing music and songs way even, even before the first of love record. So, you know, he's been doing this his whole life. Yeah, that's when you're a talented songwriter. And it's like, nah, we're at this song over here, but it's too poppy for my current music project. So I'll just shelve it for a little bit. It's like, if you're that good, you can write, you can write songs that, you know, to me, like, if I was in a band, I would struggle just to come up with one song. You know, I mean, let it alone a song that I could shelve for her.

for an album I'm going to put out almost a decade later, you know. So what's interesting about this record is that they actually sort of took, they kind of called it a hiatus, but in 2019, they did their final show, quote unquote. Now, they've actually done, you can find a audio tree, live performance. You can find it on YouTube. And you can also listen to the record on Spotify in 2024. But I think they've stopped doing shows. I mean, that might not be true.

But in 2019, they did their final show. And then the pandemic hit, and they were calling kind of a hiatus. And then they dropped this record. And so, like, this was kind of almost like bonus, you know, material that fans of of Oblov were kind of, you know, treated to because, like, it was kind of, they were posing as like, oh, I don't know if we're going to do this anymore. And Steve himself is actually not a fan of performing live. He doesn't really enjoy performing live.

And he even talks about like he just has a completely different relationship to music when he's not the front man. So he says here, I'm right in the middle of trying to figure out what I actually want to do with music. I know I like playing shows just when it comes to performing songs that I wrote specifically. And when I'm the one singing and I guess leading the band, it becomes a different thing that feels like something I don't enjoy. So that's probably like why they took a hiatus. See, like, shit, if you're a frontman for a band and you don't enjoy performing live, that's going to be tough, man. Right, because, yeah, you bring in a lot of revenue.

Yeah, he goes, I almost, he says, I almost wish it were possible for me to just write the songs and have other people perform them, which there's plenty of people to do that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, I don't know if that means we're not going to get any more music from Avlov, but if this is their last record, their last collection of music, it's a fucking, it's such a treat, man.

And as Pitchfork calls it, he says, when you're truly thankful for life, even 25 minutes feels like a gift. Well, that was it, man, short and sweet. Great album.

We're still, you know, just flirting with the hour mark here. So this could be a shorter episode than usual, but that's okay. I don't know what our next deep dive is going to be. I'm going to have to think on that. If it's going to you, then that's why.

I know what my next album is going to be. But I guess we'll trade off like we usually do in life. That's what we do. You know what, dude, you've been playing Goldenheim for half an hour. It's my turn now. I was like, what are you talking about? I just remember having strict, like, timers set from, like, mom would make sure that. I mean, we would usually play.

gold mine together. Together. You know what? That was the first N64 game that came to my head. But yeah, yeah, I remember being very like, come on, your time's up, dude, it's my turn to play. What game would that have been Sonic, maybe? Sonic 2. Streets of Rage. Try to think, man. Yeah, maybe. You remember the Dick Tracy game? Dick Trach. I was about to bring it up. Dude, you can play it online. I'm sure you can. Let me just say, dude, Streets of Rage soundtrack for the second, the game that we have. of Ridge too. Holy shit.

That record is amazing, man. The soundtrack, it's incredible. Yeah. I'm not even joking. The guy that made it was pulling in a lot of influence from like 90s, like club, house electronic music. That was kind of popular in America at the time. And when you listen to it, like it's an electronic dance record. I'm pretty sure I brought one of their tracks to what you heard.

I'm pretty sure you did. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. go listen to it if you like if you like good music if you like good electronic music Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack I know that's kind of sounds kind of nerdy because it's like a

you know side scrolling beat him up game but it's fucking awesome dude anyway but yeah I have maybe maybe I could just tell you what I'm going to do next on my next deep dive okay maybe that'll help me pick something to go in between exactly I'm going to do

this group called Ariel that has appeared on this show before on what you heard. They put out a few EPs that collectively they're called Winks and Kisses, but it's like four EPs that kind of, they go together as a full album. But I'm going to bring tracks from from across those EPs. So very heavy shoegaze dream pop. So if you could give us something that's not shoegaze or dream pop, which I know is tough because that's what we do. You know what, dude? Let's do a proper sound carriers. Okay. Episode. Perfect. Perfect. I think that's good.

Yeah. But yeah, dude, Ariel, who this record is something, dude. Wings and kisses. Yes. Get ready for it in a couple of months, I guess. I guess it'll be our July episode. After we will have spent some time together, you know, in the flesh. I can't wait, man.

That's going to be great. I already laid down the rules, dude. I said, I told us talking to dad. You already talked to him? Yeah, I said, no politics. He goes, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Especially not during an election year. Yeah.

Yeah. He's like, talk to your brothers, though. It's like, dude. We're not, I have no desire to. You and I are on the same page here, dude. Spencer, I was telling you, if him and Spencer want to go in a room and lock the door and yell at each other about politics, go right ahead. They both, they like that kind of stuff. Spencer likes, you know, you know, it's sometimes it's debates.

I like it too. But now when I'm surrounded by people who, like, this is not what we're here to do. You know what I mean? Maybe if like it's just, me. him at a restaurant or something like at a bar somewhere maybe. All right. Well, I feel like that was just short and sweet cue. But you know, sometimes that's all right. It's just like the record. Just like the record. So yeah, go listen to Avlov if you liked what you heard today. I mean, I've almost played every track. That's the funny thing. But we're going to close out with

another track from the record called The Wishing Well. But yeah, find us on Instagram. if you want to reach out to us, just search for No Fuehler Podcast. And of course, you can listen to us and many other great music-related podcasts on the Pantheon podcast network. It's pantheonpodcast.com. You can also search for Pantheon podcasts on wherever you get your podcast and subscribe to the main feed if you want to get all of those shows and our show appearing in your feed. But yeah, thanks for listening.

as always, we're going to come at you in a couple more weeks for our next What You heard episode. And then we're going to talk about sound carriers after that. Heck yeah. And we're just going to keep on, just keep on kicking, kicking, you know, just keep on kicking. Keep on kicking. That's all you can do in life. All right.

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