No Filler Music Podcast - Experience the Warmth - Incubus' Make Yourself
Episode Date: January 19, 2026We’re diving into Incubus’ 1999 breakout Make Yourself, one of the late 90s’ most thoughtful meditations on self-determination and what it means to be alive. Brandon Boyd’s lyrics grapple wit...h questioning the privileges we take for granted, resisting systems designed to keep us compliant, and staying engaged when everything feels cold and empty. It’s a record that urges us to carve our own path and hold onto our humanity. Join us as we experience the warmth with Incubus. Tracklist Privilege The Warmth (live from the Morning View Sessions) When It Comes Out From Under Battlestar Scralatchtica This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to No Filet.
Pardon me. It was kind of, I think, a lot of people's first, like, on a larger scale, first introduction to Incubus as a band.
And it was really us trying to kind of make sense of all of our sort of different influences that were, that were influenced.
influencing us particularly at that time.
We were really discovering all of this really cool new drum and bass music that was coming from the UK to the US.
And we're also like, like, well, we also like rocking out really hard.
So it was kind of like a collision of drum and bass and like rock music in a way that on paper probably sounds like it wouldn't work.
And maybe to certain people, maybe it still doesn't work.
It worked for us.
And welcome to No Filler.
The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records.
My name is Travis.
I got my brother Quentin with me for our first proper episode of 26.
Can't believe we haven't done it yet.
Incubis is 1999 record.
Make yourself.
I'm stoked, man.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, Incubis, right?
I don't know about you.
This isn't a band that I follow.
This isn't a band that I haven't listened to any of their albums all the way through, including this one, dude.
That's shocking, man, because I know we had a copy of this CD in the Chevy Tracker that we shared, because I'm very familiar with this band.
Obviously, I've been listening to them for years.
Really, I mean, if I'm being honest, make yourself and Morning View are basically the two records that I like.
I think I checked out
A Crow Left of the
Yeah, I remember having a copy of a crow left of the murder
I might have bought it from CD addict
Shout out Mark
Because yeah, Megalomaniac is a dope ass track
And I think it was just a fuck you to President Bush
Which like I think that whole album was
Yeah
Yeah and that was dope and I mean
Dude let's see
Well make yourself came out in what 99
99?
We were 12
Yeah
And I remember
And pardon me was everywhere
I remember pardon me on MTV
So we were old enough
We were watching MTV at that time
probably 13.
The band itself has been hugely important to my wife and I.
We actually saw their 20-year tour.
Oh, shit.
I forgot about that, dude.
Celebrating this record.
So they played it from start to finish.
Nice.
2019.
How was that, dude?
Were they killer?
Yeah, we saw them in San Francisco.
It was awesome.
Nice, dude.
And then we saw last year, we saw their Morning View tour.
So they did Morning View always.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Dude, hey, I didn't know.
I didn't realize how big of a part of your life this.
band has been so yeah huge fan huge fan and we're going to talk about what makes them so
unique dude so he was kind of hinting at it right there in the intro so that was uh that was the
guitar player his name is uh mike insinger him and the vocalist brandon boyd they started the band
back in 91 in high school now i got to ask you this trav and i'm sorry if i'm just like you know
button in here but did have you listened to their other two albums that came up before make yourself
I've listened to hearing. I've dabbled with science for sure. Is it different like was Make yourself when they'd like clicked like, you know, decided to start doing DJ scratches and all that stuff. Like I said, they started listening to drum and bass stuff out of the UK and that's kind of what influenced their sound. They, I mean, they had a little, yeah, they had a little bit of that stuff on science. But they hadn't really, like you said, they hadn't really clicked into like their sound yet. Make yourself was when when Incubus became incubus. You know what I mean? In terms of like. Right.
What made them stand out? They started to write songs that were more like structured and like, you know, melody focused, like lyrically focused and stuff like that. Let me just play this clip, dude. I got lots of interview clips and stuff to share with us tonight. You could tell they were in their early 20s, man, for sure when you look at this video clip. But like I said, just a second ago, they've been doing this since they were like 15. Like they just formed a band, played some high school shows, played some like backyard shows, stuff like that. They just gave them.
off such fucking like like hacky sack vibes yes we all went to school with guys like this
dude i were i worked with a bunch of dudes like this oh i'm sure you did tables in texas and
early 2000s but let me just go just on the record by saying that i think brennan boyd is one of
the most beautiful things that's ever lived in the guy ages like a fine wine i mean he's what is he
like gavin rosdale you know i'm saying did they get a lot of slack for it maybe i mean they
play at OzFest. All right.
But we'll talk about that in a little bit here.
Let me just play this clip right quick.
This is him talking about like the difference between Make Yourself and Science, which came
up before it.
Okay.
The record's been a lot different than science as yet.
It's getting a little more song oriented.
The music, the music's just, it's different, but it's got a lot of really, really cool
energy and
because it was recorded
energy. Because it was recorded in energy.
It's got a lot of emotion in it.
Yeah. It's got around. It's a lot. It's planned
and thought out. I think
it'll touch sorry Jose. I love
this guy. I think
I think the music on this album is a lot
more personal. I think people will get a lot
will be able to listen to the music and really
get something out of it, you know, musically
and lyrically and all that.
Anyway, so like he said, more song focused, meaning like, and you're going to see that with the lyrics and stuff.
Like he was definitely trying to say something with this record.
And that guy, Mike, they saw this more as like an emotional outlet for something that they were trying to say.
I think science was a little bit more like they were still doing this weird kind of funk metal type thing, which makes me think of like chili peppers, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But with Make Yourself, you know, like he was saying in that intro clip, they were starting to listen to a lot of drum and bass.
And so that became a huge thing and a huge part of their sound.
And like the DJ, which let me let me name his, drop his name here.
So let me pull up the exact roster for Make Yourself.
Because I think they had some roster changes here.
but um so for make yourself it was brandon of course on vocals mike and zikang guitar dj kilmore so i think
is chris kilmore i think his name is that was the guy that does the turntable scratching that you'll
hear quite a bit derrick lance on bass and then jose pastillas on drums so anyway um but yeah that's a
huge part of just the the new metal sound and it's interesting because these guys incubus does get the
new metal label on them, but they're far from like a corn, you know what I mean?
Dude, that's kind of like the revelation that we had that Jimmy E. World is email.
Yes. Yeah, exactly.
You know, yeah. You just, yeah. So that, so that, that, that genre is a much wider spanning
umbrella, I guess, than, yeah, than we thought. But we've talked about alt metal quite a bit
on the show. It's the difference, man. There, I mean, I, I feel.
like new metal is when you start to flirt with the DJ scratching and stuff like that.
The rap, almost rap type elements.
Is there DJ scratches and corn music?
They got, they got a DJ?
I think they do have some of that.
Yeah, something like that, dude.
Yeah, I think they do on some of the tracks.
I can't pull any out of the top of my head.
Yeah.
But, and then alt metal bands like Helmet is what I think about when I think about
all metal.
Even HOM kind of flirted with alt metal.
Anyway, all right, let's jump into the tracks here.
So, you know, as we typically do here, we don't play singles except for the intro.
I had, pardon me for the intro.
So, you know, pardon me for playing a single, Kim.
But he was, you know, he was talking about pardon me in the intro clip there.
And I like to, sometimes I like to do that.
It's like for our intro to intro an episode end, sometimes it's like, hey, here's that
band that you definitely know, you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, dude.
I use singles in our intros all the time.
Inkiebis is Incubis.
Everybody knows who Incubus is.
This is that era.
It's the pardon me era.
Hopefully, Q, I know you're talking to me off mic that you don't know if you're really a big fan of this band.
Hey, dude.
You know what?
Like I said, I gave it a spin a few days ago, but I was working while I was listing.
So, you know, I was distracted.
Yeah, yeah, dude.
All right.
Well, I'm about to change your mind.
Okay.
All right.
So we're going to start with the very opening track of the record.
I think this will be a good.
A good way to kind of hear how many genres these guys can blend in together in a very interesting way.
So here we go.
This song is called Privilege.
Dude, always loved it.
Interesting.
So I think we should probably, we need to talk about this because, I mean, they, I'm getting a lot of 311 vibes, dude.
And yeah, I think we're going to cover them next.
I think, yeah.
We couldn't have picked the better two bands, I think, to, to, to,
cover like one after another you know what i mean well shout out to to miche for that yeah that's his
yeah that's perfect it's in it's in the drumbeat i think it's that piccolo snare super high pitch
you know bright snare i mean what do you associate the piccolo snare with uh reggae like reggae
exactly and that's and that's that's kind of what i'm saying like there's so many
genres that these guys blend in and that's what made alt metal you know new metal like the fusion
of like funk and reggae and electronic stuff like that.
That's what makes it so interesting.
Yeah, I hear it after listening to that.
I hear it.
And even his vocals, like the way his singing style is very new metal.
Kind of like the, I mean, I was getting some corn vibes and his vocals a little bit.
Just when he said, back to I'm corn.
Dude, I don't know about that, man.
I don't know either because I'm not a corn fan like you.
Well, I mean, Jonathan Davis, I mean, his vocals are just so out there.
But so what's interesting about this, this is actually DJ Kilmore's first album that he recorded with them.
And so I think it's cool that like in the opening track, he's got the little breakdown that he does.
The sample was cool because it's very hip hop, dude.
very like tribe called quest
kind of hip hop
okay let me talk about this dude
because this is not a label that gets thrown on them
but I feel like that that riff
that melody in the beginning
that starts this song off is very pop punk
to me that
that sounds like newfound glory
and like sum 41 and all those
that melody is a pop punk melody
what do you think? Yeah yeah I think so
For sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we've established.
Hey,
we didn't talk about the lyrics.
Oh,
yeah.
The lyrics are fucking great.
Yeah.
So,
and you're going to hear that a lot.
I mean,
the album is called make yourself.
And I feel like the message that Brandon is trying to convey to the listeners is like find
your own path.
Find peace internally.
Yeah.
Do what makes you happy.
Do not.
I mean,
this song is about,
you know,
the rat race kind of thing.
It's talking about like being in like waiting in line for something and you don't
know what you're in.
line for and he's like why don't you just step out of the line and find yourself a back door in 1999
that line to me it's very clear that he's talking to you know americans i think because you know
the concept of being born free is definitely an american thing right oh he's saying you're born
free that's your privilege like don't waste it don't waste that privilege you know what i mean right
um anyway don't be all like me i got to stand this long line come on i mean he's basically saying
get out of the line, dude.
If you, if you, if, my interpretation is just like, fuck the line.
Find the back door.
Yeah, find the back door.
All right.
So we're going to jump to, uh, one of their standout tracks, uh, from their career.
Uh, he's actually, Brandon actually talked about this song as being one of their five defining
songs of their entire career.
We're going to watch a video.
We're going to watch a live performance.
Hey, haven't done that in a while.
Uh, they did a.
a concert actually when they were promoting morning view so when the morning view came out they did this
concert and it was like included if you bought the CD in like a it was like a DVD you remember when
band used to do stuff like that um and so they you know they played quite a bit of tracks from
makers of something like that yeah and yeah and sometimes it would be on the CD um itself yeah so anyway
uh so here is a live performance of them playing the warmth
probably back in like 2001.
So here we go.
I think that might be my favorite on the record.
It's a standout track for them for sure.
I'm shocked that's not a single, dude.
It's not one of their main three singles.
I'll just say that.
Yeah, yeah.
It might have been like on an EP or something like that they put out,
but it's not one of their like official singles from this record.
Let's talk about those lyrics again, dude.
It's almost kind of saying like, you know,
there's something to live for maybe if you're somebody who's like,
depressed or or you know if you're feeling if you're not feeling connected there's a cold
wind coming from the top of the highest high rise what is he is he contemplating
jumping off that building exactly dude it's not a breeze because it blows hard and
it wants me to discard the humanity I know watch the warmth blow away basically
like life watch life just leave hey don't let the world bring you down you know
not everyone here's that fucked up and cold remember why you came
and while you're alive, experience the warmth before you grow old.
It's basically like somebody's on the edge, you know, and something is telling them like to like hold on.
You know what I mean?
Like don't, don't give up.
There's, there's, you know, life is worth living.
It's basically what that's about, right?
Which is interesting because privilege was about almost like seeing about this guy that's like, you know, standing in this, in this metaphorical line of life.
Just like going through the motions and shit doesn't know what they're.
why they're there is just kind of going through the motions of life.
You know what I mean?
So it's interesting.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that kind of theme on this record.
Yeah, but so different, man.
There's nothing that sounded like this song back back at that time or since then.
That's what I was, yeah, that's what I have to try to remember.
You know, it's hard to remember that this far removed from 1999, you know, and we were only 12, right?
So we weren't like really paying attention to music other than maybe what Spencer was listening to, what we heard on the radio.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Yeah.
This was different.
It was like the 90s in its last like last ditch effort to change it up one last time before the freaking millennium.
Well, they talk about it.
They talk about that, man.
There's this great quote from from Insinger.
So this is, I was reading some interviews that they did.
like on the 20 year anniversary of this record,
because they were like just reflecting back on their career and stuff.
And the interviewer,
I think this was billboard.com,
was asking him like about their sonic diversity
and like where it comes from.
And Inzinger said,
it's our greatest asset and our biggest flaw.
We don't fit anywhere and we never have.
We were never punk rock enough for the warped tour.
We were never metal enough for Ozfest,
even though they played Oz Fest,
but we were never quite indie rock or cool enough for Lalapalooza.
We've carved our own path and were really humbled by the fact that we've had so many supporters and people who appreciate our music.
Now hang on here.
Come on, dude.
I guarantee you they were playing those kind of festivals yearly.
They had to be, dude.
They have definitely headlined some festivals, dude, in their day.
But I get the point he's trying to make.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
But you know what, dude, don't most bands say that.
Don't most bands say that about themselves?
Like in just so like, you know, we're proud of what we do.
I think maybe.
But I mean, I think what makes Incubis so great is that they pulled in audiences from each of those genres.
You know what I mean?
Like they probably had.
I mean, look, I mean, look, I like them back then.
And I was a big indie head and I guess third wave emo appreciator.
You know what I mean?
Sure.
Back then at least.
So I think that's what made them.
Like he said, it's their greatest asset.
and their biggest flaw.
The greatest asset is that because I'm sure that's what kind of,
they had a big umbrella, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's move on here.
We're going to go back to the album version of the tracks here from here on out.
But here we go.
This is a song called When It Comes.
Again, more of the same kind of thing.
Like, think for yourself, right?
Yeah, dude, whatever you're trying to sell to me?
He's like, yeah, I'm not buying.
That's what Brandon Boyd said.
So he talks about the thought about it.
thought about being free again, which is interesting.
Like a free, and this time, it's like, in this context, it's being a free thinker, right?
Or he's talking about like, you know, I don't need whatever, whatever bullshit's being sold to me.
I mean, that's literally it says.
Yeah, yeah, dude, because the 90s was all about like that new age, like, you know, we got what,
whatever the ailments are.
We got the fix.
Yeah, there's a lot of like yoga and stuff was coming back, right?
And like, you walk into like Spencer's gifts or whatever and they'd have.
you know, incense burning and stuff like that, right?
Lava lamps for sale at Spencer's Gifts.
And like the shopping, the shopping network.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, you know, it's funny.
It'd be funny if the whole song was about getting stopped at malls at the people in the kiosks.
Right.
Yeah.
They still do that.
I know.
They still still push that stuff.
Depending on the mall.
But yeah.
Yeah.
It's just funny because, like, it was this interesting, like, dichotomy of, like, the new age,
spiritual kind of resurgence of the 90s with like I mean the dude had dreads right um
not tonogam or anything I'm just saying like you know the whole yoga was like you know I mean
made a huge comeback back then the self it was a whole the self-improvement kind of age but then at
the same time you're flipping through channels at night and you got the shopping network or you
got some sort of infomercial like gone wild well I wasn't thinking that but like you know
pure moods or whatever with that CD that I that I that I have some sort of
such nostalgia for that commercial because I saw that commercial, yeah, so many times, man.
I don't even know with the lyrics, sorry. But yeah, I know, dude. Like, I could even, I can even
think of what songs comes next to the order. Yeah, and I know exactly, exactly. But it's just funny
because of, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Yeah, dude. Enigma. That was, that song was, yeah, it was by Enigma, return to innocence. Yeah. And then you were randomly, they threw in the X-Files theme song, yeah. But it was like some club remix of it or something. That's that new age stuff, dude. Anyway, it's just funny because like while that was trying to sell you this like spiritual like awakening type thing, it was also years for 99. You know what I mean? You still had to purchase it. You still have to buy it.
Dude, those CD sets were cool, man.
I remember there's a lot of those commercials back, like it, you know.
Yeah, it was now that's what I call music, remember?
Volume five.
Exactly.
Anyway, so what he's saying is like, I'm not interested.
I'm not buying that.
You know what I mean?
I don't need it.
Right.
My, you know, what I need and what I want is free.
And probably what he's thinking about is creative pursuit, maybe human connection.
Who knows what he was singing about?
But it wasn't something.
you can buy on the shopping network, you know what I mean?
I feel you.
I feel you.
Yeah.
So more of the same kind of messaging here of like, you know, carve your own path.
Don't just do what you're, what you're told that's being pitched to you, you know what I mean?
And man, could that not be more true, man?
Maybe he was like, maybe he saw into the future, dude, and could see what was coming because now, I mean, this message could not be any more, you know, potent.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, anyway.
All right, man, I got one more track for us.
So I saved the heaviest track queue, in my opinion.
Whoa.
Dude, I must have, I really must have been not paying attention, dude.
You were doing, yeah, dude, you were like skipping through the tools.
Maybe I accidentally pressed play on Morning View.
You might have, dude, because Morning View is way more tame.
And I was thinking in my head that it was make yourself.
You might have, dude, because, yeah, Morning View.
was different. This is their best record,
in my opinion.
I think that's probably, I think a lot of people would
agree with that. But to be
fair, I've only really played the more heavy
tracks for this record. There's a lot
of, way more, so like
stellar, which is one of their huge hits.
So in other words, you're bringing the gold,
dude. I'm, dude, this
is, I'm bringing what we preach, dude.
This is the jams
between the singles, but twixt to them,
as we like to say.
As I said, the one time.
Yeah.
Surely, surely we've said betwixt at least one more time in the history of this podcast,
it for sure.
But yeah, man, I saved the best for last in my opinion, dude.
This is a sneak, it just sneaks in, dude.
And it's the last track on the record.
So you may not have heard it, man.
This is what we preached, dude.
Preach it.
You got to listen to the whole record.
This song has the least, if this is an indication of anything, it has the least amount
of plays on Spotify.
Hey, people don't get to the last, the last song.
So I'm saying, man, you've got to listen until the end.
All right, here we go.
So again, this is the last track on the record.
And this song is called Out from Under.
The song's fucking awesome, dude.
That's all about like, don't blindly obey, right?
I'm telling him, man.
Unlearn.
He's, dude, he's showing us the fucking rulebook, man.
Here's how to live it up.
I don't think he has a rule book.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, here's the funny thing, dude.
You could also read this from the lens of like just an angsty teenager who wants to
Rebell against his parents, you know what I mean?
For sure, dude, yeah.
But I mean, it's a good, it's a, it's a good message.
It really is, yeah.
Because he's basically saying like, and again, dude, it's the same, it's almost the same.
Question everything kind of thing.
You question everything, you know what I mean?
Don't, don't like resist what's being sold to you, right?
Get out from under them.
Who's them, Q?
Them.
we all know who them is resist unlearn defy multiply i love it dude it's a track um it's great it's a good
message um yeah carry the zero you got him re carry the zero carry the zero shout out build the spill
oh sorry um that's what i was trying to do there okay to make a reference to build the spill
but yeah more more lyrically of the same but man this is a heavy track dude like it's
sneaks out.
Hey, that's the first time I heard him really scream.
Yeah, I take it back.
I said, I said at some point that he doesn't really scream all that well.
But he sure does.
He just doesn't do it very often.
Yeah.
He sprinkles it in.
He does it effectively.
But yeah, this song, this song is a metal song.
That's metal, dude.
That's a dope.
It's a dope track, dude.
That might be my, it might be my favorite one on the album.
Exactly, man.
Exactly.
Last track.
Yeah.
The one that doesn't get quite the play count.
I mean, of course, with the record like this, you've got, you've got songs on here that are approaching a billion plays drive.
No surprise, dude.
Right.
But, yeah, anyway.
So, yeah, I, you know, again, this came on 1999.
So this is right, right about the end of the 99.
It was in October.
So right around the corner, dude, was the indie groups that they, that they were talking about.
Strokes, Interpol, all around the corner.
Music was about to change.
the 90s were over at that point in terms of like the grunge movement was over came and went you know
I mean and they didn't fit into that box at all the grunge box and yeah we're going to talk about
another band 311 right uh is what we're going to talk about next uh is another similar type of band and man
i'm excited about that dude me too i've always loved 311 i've never really given them a full like sit
down and focus same here man but man some of those tracks are some of my favorites from that
that era, man.
Amber.
I love Amber.
Amber, yeah.
I fucking love that song.
Amber is magical, man.
When I think of a piccolo snare drum, I think of that freaking song.
Yeah, I did.
I remember that record.
I remember Spencer had a copy of it.
Yeah.
The self-titled one.
The one that had down, it had down on it.
I always remember thinking that the, like the typography or whatever, their logo is cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if he had from chaos, which is what.
Amber was on, but he definitely had the self-titled.
Because, yeah, I remember listening to it, man.
So yeah, dude, we were exposed to all this stuff, man.
That's what was great about growing up in the 90s, man, in the 2000s.
There was such a wide range of music that we were all exposed to.
There was such a hodgepodge, man.
We've talked about it so often.
But I think that is why we have such a wide range of music that we love and appreciate.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think so, too, man.
Because it was all around us, dude.
Right, well, there you go, dude.
That's one of my favorite records, probably a top 10 record for me.
No way.
Depending on the mood I'm in, you know, and abs and flows or whatever.
Okay.
But it's up there.
You know, this record's phenomenal.
Anytime I revisit it, I'm reminded about how, just how incredible it is, how, um, just
cohesive it is.
You know, obviously, you play, I picked songs.
I don't know that all of the record is so, like, thematically.
similar, but like the tracks I picked at least. He's, you know, he's trying to tell you something.
But, you know, when the record is called make yourself and he's sort of giving these instructions
to, to, you know, young, his audience, meaning like probably a lot of teenagers and
young, young college kids who are probably looking to hear a message like this, you know?
Right. It's a great record, man. And it holds up. Yeah. Inqubius was one of the, the, the,
I mean, they were huge, man.
I remember there was, it might have been for Morning View,
but I remember watching this.
MTV had like a show or something or some sort of segment to some other show maybe
that was devoted to them.
And I remember it was basically like they had a film crew following them around
and recording them at whatever house they were recording Morning View at.
And I remember it was so cool to see that, dude.
Yeah, cool.
And I was thinking like, because like, I remember they've got,
like sitars and stuff on on morning view because there's a track called aqueous transmission
which is an incredible truck i think it's the last track on morning view but dude it is so like
middle eastern and like you want to talk about like spiritual and shit what a fucking song man so good
yeah i mean the song lyrics like the outro of that song he's just saying i'm floating down a river
like over and over again.
And it sure fucking sounds like you are, dude,
when you listen to that song.
And there's like, man,
I know we're not talking about Morning View,
but that's where they went.
You know, I mean,
that they went very, like,
way more melodic and more like,
world music,
if you want to call it that,
you know,
like where they brought in a bunch
of different types of instruments like that,
world,
worldly instruments, you know.
But anyway,
I just thought it was cool, dude.
That's the kind of stuff
that you could turn on the TV and see.
A band recording, dude, a band recording a record, a rock band recording a record.
I remember they had something on Blinquenaded 2 for their self-titled.
MTV's dead, man.
It is.
No, it literally died, I think recently.
One of the channels turned itself off, as it were.
So, yeah, man, that era's dead.
But, and I mean, the MTV that we grew up with has been dead for a long time.
But I just, you know, it's no wonder we were so, you know, music obsessed.
and still are, you know, it's because we grew up where you could turn on the TV and be exposed
to a bunch of...
Music videos were huge.
Huge, man.
Yeah.
They were like from the 80s and 90s into the into a little bit of the 2000s.
Like they were huge.
Yeah.
Anyway.
All right, man.
Well, there was, there you go, dude.
We did new metal.
We covered new metal.
It's not really the heaviest the new metal gets, but by no stretch, did.
No, we have.
We've covered corn before.
We have, but I feel like, I feel like we need to.
do a redo of that dude i don't think i did i don't think i did i don't think i did him justice i
know what dude that's not a bad idea we could do that with a few episodes man oh totally and now that
we have mitchell and we could get we could get our new perspective we could get mitchell to join us
good call man um but yeah i do want to do like a new mental grab bag i think that'd be fun
could we've done grab bag type episodes before like we did a a shoegaze grab bag a couple of times
down tempo grab bag yeah we did down tempo grab bag yeah i think that'd be cool because there's you know
There's some bands that I'd like to touch on, you know, but we don't necessarily need to do a full episode on them.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
But anyway, all right.
So like we've been saying, our next deep dive will be 311.
Between this episode and that one will be our first deep dive, or not deep dive, our first, what you heard of 2026.
Dude, I can't wait.
And I got some good tunes.
That's the thing about the first what you heard of the year is always nothing but good picks, dude.
Because we've been sitting on him for a whole month.
And with this one, it's been a month and a half because we dropped nothing but
rewinds for the month of November.
We took like November off.
So, dude, we're talking probably about two months, probably by the time this comes out
and the last watch you're hearing.
Yeah, dude, I got some doosies for you.
And let me tell you this.
I have a track that deserves to be in my top of my top list of 2025.
God damn it, dude, because it happens every time.
Man, it's so, dude, I can't wait to show this.
to you, man.
Can you tell me anything?
Hell no.
I'm not going to, I won't go listen to it.
I'm just curious if I've heard of him before.
Nope, I'm not going to tell you.
Okay.
Why would I do that?
I don't know.
What if it's a song and a band that I love, dude?
It is.
What?
It is?
Oh, okay.
So that's why you're not telling me.
Let's just put it this way, Tram.
It is up there with how dope that Tyco and,
And Paul Banks, what I was.
And it's a similar thing.
It's a collab.
Out of nowhere, dude.
And when did it come out?
Um, hmm.
2025, Tramph.
I never win.
Oh, I don't know.
I mean, look it up.
Was it like a late entry or was it?
I think I just, I just slept on it, dude.
I didn't know.
It came out in October.
That makes more sense.
I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't really.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah, late entry.
All right.
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That is the network that we're,
I think, I mean, I think we're still a part of it.
I don't know.
But that is the network that is our home.
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In terms of like, I think there's like two, three episodes a day probably.
Maybe five or six.
So it might be kind of hard to keep up with it.
So if you only want us, you know, you can subscribe to our, obviously to our separate feed.
So we'll come at you in a couple of weeks with our first, what you heard of the year.
And until then, I think I'm going to close Q.
I have to do it, Q.
I'm going to close with Battlestar Scrolactica.
Which is, that's a pretty dumb song.
But basically it was DJ Kilmore's Time to Shine.
And apparently the story is that Brandon was sick or something like that or out of the studio that day.
And they didn't want to waste because they, you know, they're paying for every day.
So they didn't want to waste it.
So he's like, I got this guys.
That's cool.
paddle star scratch slash whatever so anyway that's something i'm some of the close on that cool all right
well uh thanks as always for listening my name is Travis and I'm going you all take care
