No Filler Music Podcast - Grungegaze Dream Fuzz: The Music of Soul Blind (with guest Roni)

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Just in time for their brand new record, Travis and special guest (and friend of the pod) Roni dive into the grunge/shoegaze/post hardcore revival of Soul Blind. We play a track from (most) of their EPs along with a brand new track off their forthcoming  full-length Feel It All Around which drops November 11th on Other People Records. Stuck In A Loop Crawling Into You Searching Falling Asleep Phantom Pool Tribe This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Travis. I got my brother Quentin with me for just a quick moment as we tee up this episode. Q, you missed out, man. You missed out on some great tunes. Yeah, so I didn't even know you were hopping on today with Ronnie. So Ronnie joined Travis to chat about this band.

She's a long time listener. Friend of the pod. She's in the top five, dude. You know, like if we ever get our five favorite, favorite listeners all in one room. Number one, dude. Number one. She's number one. I said she's in the top five.

I didn't specify on whatever, but of course. I specified. I didn't want to single her out like that. Do it. Well, yeah, she's one of the first. listeners and one of the earliest listeners to like reach out and connect with us right and so yeah so um as you guys know the last couple months we've had guests on right and it's been a lot of the same guest it's been a lot of Nathan which you know let's face it Nathan's awesome he's one of the early

guests that we had on this pod right he joined us for the in rainbows episode for radio It's still the only episode where we have played, gone track by track through the whole album. That's true. Yeah. So he'll probably be on again at some point. But yeah, we mix it up a little bit today with Ronnie. So we talked about this band SoulBlind. Not the first time that this band has been played on the show.

I brought a track of theirs called Crawling Into You as of what you heard probably years ago at this point. But yeah, this is just one of those grunts. shoe gaze revival bands that seem to be popping up everywhere these days. And yeah, we talk a little bit about just, you know, the interesting thing about Ronnie is she's about, you know, a decade younger than us. So it's interesting to hear how did she connect with Grunge originally, like how did she first hear those bands versus our connection to it, that we kind of grew up with it right through our older brother.

Yeah, because we're, I mean, essentially a generation removed from grunge as well, you know. Yeah, but we, yeah, true. We didn't. We were very young when it was, when it was happening. It was already starting, you know, before we're even born, the very beginning stages of it. So, yeah, now we've got Ronnie's perspective on it, and she's the next generation. Actually, we were trying to figure this out. We were trying to put her in the right generation.

She's actually technically, the last year considered a millennial. So she's technically in our generation, but she has her foot in both in a way, right? But anyway, long story short, that's some of what we talked about is just, you know, what, just what is about grunge and its staying power, right? And like how it's sort of a lot of jinz's ears, their parents were listening to grunge in its, you know, in the heyday of grunge. Like they were in high school when Grunge was happening. And so a lot of Jin's ears, that's where their parents played for them,

just like our dad played Zeppelin and Boston and all that stuff. Yeah, for us, right? So it's really interesting. But anyway, we talk about that. And we play four songs, one from just about each of their singles and EPs. Because they've put out nothing but EPs up until this year. And like I said, literally three days. well, November 11th, so three days, three, four days from today, their first full-length record,

feel it all around. That feels weird to say that, because that is washed out. That will forever be his first EP. Although, hang on now, the EP was called Life of Leisure. But yes, I always think of washed out. I really hope it's a cover of the song, but we'll find out. Oh, that would be amazing. That would be amazing.

I doubt it. Well, November 11th is Sarah and my wedding anniversary, John. Congratulations in four days. 11, 11, 11, 11. That's right. So, 11 years. Yeah. Crazy.

Big time. Been together even longer than that, dude. Time flies, brother. And now we have a kid. Sure does. And for those who don't know, that's why I haven't really been, you know, hopping on as per usual. Usually it's just Travis and I, you know, spit. any of these mics. Well, next week, I am bringing an album. It's been a while since I've brought one.

Dude, I think the last one I brought was Slow Dives, self-titled, which was, I want to say, last month. So, we'll be coming at you with a, so, Trave, I'm going to change it up a little bit. Okay. It's going to be still shoegazing in a way. But, and I think I did this last year or the year before, but I get into this like, I don't know, easy listening, like acoustic-y kind of music vibe. That, to me, is fall, right? Okay, yeah. Leaves are changing up here.

The colors are changing. Yep. And I'm just getting to this mood where I'm listening. I'm looking for like, I don't know, the shins, you know, like early shins or like parachutes, which is one of the albums we covered a few falls ago. I think it was 2019, 2020. But anyways, dude, I just heard this album the other day. I just popped up on my feed.

Have you heard of a band called The Sundays? I don't think I have, no. So you said shoegaze, though. So folk shoegaze? Folk gaze. I don't know, man. They pop up in the same circles, I guess, you could say, as Mojave 3, which is, you know, the slow dives, acoustic-y country stuff.

Remember that group that half of slow dive became? Right. Lush, the sugar cubes, cocktail twins, pale saints. You know, they're thrown into this bunch, but it's a different vibe, dude. Kind of like the cranberries, that kind of stuff. Okay. Yeah. And we're going to dive into a album of theirs called Blind from 1992.

two. And I think what we should do is try to stick into this vein for a little bit longer, dude. See if once you hear these songs, see if maybe it'll spark, you know, an idea for you to bring one for the next week. Okay. Yeah, that sounds good. And then we got to figure it out a way to get, to get four episodes recorded with you. We can make it happen. We can make it happen, dude. Yeah. For our countdown of the best of 2022, I need to start making my list, compiling it, you know, caressing it, spending some time with it. Yeah, I haven't been as, I haven't been as active a listener of music this year towards this last half, you know, last few months as far as like, you know, diving into new stuff

like I have in the past. But yeah, I've got a pretty good list going on so far, dude. So do we want to do like we did last year, I guess it'd be five, five each per episode. So 20, between the two of us, 40, 20. total, right? Yeah, we can do it. We can make it happen. Yeah, all right.

So that'll be next month. But yeah, for this week's episode, like I said, we're going to just kind of jump right into my conversation with listener in front of the pod, Ronnie. And, yeah, we're talking about soulblind. And in Q next week, you'll be back for the full episode to talk about the Sundays. Is that what you said, right? The Sundays, yeah.

The Sundays. Okay. Cool. All right. Well, thanks as always for listening to everybody. And here is our episode on SoulBlind. Joining the pod today is longtime no-filler listener and friend of the pod, Ronnie, who we've talked about before, I think, on the show. I think we've named up to you a few times. And like, I think you were the first listener that like reached out and like actually talked to us, which was cool. because that doesn't happen very often. We're like, wow, this is amazing.

People actually listen to us. So that was cool. And here you are on the show. Crazy. Hello. Happy to be here. And this is kind of, you know, this is an indictment on no filler. But I want to say you're the first female on the show.

Oh, no way. Wow. Big deal. Big shoes to fill. I know. I think you picked a good one. I think so too. Great.

I don't have any complaints so far. Today we are talking about this band called Soul Blind. And we've talked about a lot of groups like this, this year on No Filler, this resurgence of alt, grunge, shoe gaze, that sound from the 90s and how a lot of up-and-coming indie bands are sort of like reimagining that sound, kind of like reinventing it, but like, also like doing a pretty damn good job sounding exactly like that 90s sound, like where it's like, man, this is like a continuation of it, you know, like it's like they're picking up exactly where

they left off, which is great for me because I, you know, I grew up listening to that stuff. And you're probably a fan of grunge, I would think, right? Certainly for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, it's hard. There's the whole like conversation of like, what is grunge and like, is that a genre and all that, you know? Yeah, yeah. I like, I love me, Allison Chains, all of the classics, and then like some others in different subgenres in that area. Yeah, for sure. So what was like your exposure? We were talking off Mike that you were, ACDC was like your first rock band kind of thing. Like you're listening to ACDC and you're eight. When did you start listening to bands like Alison Chains or like Nirvana or Pearl Jam like all those bands? Like when did you start getting into it? I think I was probably like sixth or seventh grade for that sort of stuff,

or maybe younger than that because it would play on the radio sometimes. They'd play like 90s alternative stuff. So I listened to a lot of that because that was the only kind of radio stations we played at our house, which is awesome. I'm grateful for that. But I think I remember playing them bones on Guitar Hero when I was probably like 12 or 11 or something. And it just like blew me away because it's the coolest song ever. And yeah, then I was like obsessed with Allison James.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that that record in particular is amazing. That was our first episode on No Color was dirt, which is kind of funny. Mm-hmm. But, and I think Dem Bones was one of the songs we played actually. Because, yeah, like you said, it's it is a banger of a song.

And it just like hits you right, like right from the rip of the song, right? It's just like. I love that. Yeah. I love feeling like I'm being hit by a truck when I'm listening to music. Dude. They should put that, like, that's a good selling point right there. That should be on the record.

Yeah. But yeah, Allison Chains is a huge, like, you can totally hear that sound from this band, and we're going to play at least one track where it's like, this is an obvious, like, Alice and Chains' nod that they're doing right here. But yeah, I was wondering if, like, did your parents listen to this music and, like, expose you to it? Not really. Not really. It was more, well, my dad was definitely a rocker.

He showed me at like more of the, the rock side of stuff. The older like not as 70s and 80s stuff. Okay. And then I think it was like through playing video games and like being kind of like a loner and just like spending a lot of time listening to music and pirating stuff. I just kind of and also watching much music and all of those like. video music video rock stations and stuff that's just like what I liked doing as a kid so I would just like if I heard something I liked I'd continue to try to seek it out and find more yeah okay yeah

my mom's into oldies oldies she's into like oldies oldies like 50s yeah yeah yeah 50s okay so you got a good then you got a good exposure then if your dad was into 60s and 70s and your mom was into like oldies and then 80s pop too and 80s pop okay yeah You got all the bases covered right there. That's right. But yeah, for us, it was, you know, similar. Our dad was into the classic rock stuff, the 60s and 70s stuff. Our older brother, however, was the one who I think we can credit to, like, getting us into Granch.

Because, you know, he was listening to Smashing Pumpkins and Stuntypo Pilots, like, when they were, like, actively in the 90s, right? So we were really young, but we were still getting. exposed to it, right? So, I always wonder about some of the, some of the, you know, this next generation, the, what do you guys call, Generation Z? Are you a, I'm a Gen X, I think. Gen X.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 96, I think, makes me, I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. Let's find out. Are you looking it up? Awesome. Yeah.

Okay. So you're, you are a part of Generation Z. Oh, okay. Gen Z, wow. Start at 97. Oh, so not. You might be at the tail end of millennial with me. Crazy.

Yeah, millennials. All right. So we're both millennials. So, yeah, 90s, true. Yeah, you're right at the end of it. That's interesting. How embarrassing. What a place to be.

I know, right? Millennials is 81 to 96. So there you go. I feel like I am on the tipping point of both of those. I really feel a resonant with that. Yeah, there you go. There you go. You're like, I've got a Facebook and a TikTok account. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, because Gen Z or TikTok, they always kind of associate it with Ginzi. Sure. Yeah, for sure. Gen Z's social network, you know what I mean? I feel like with Facebook, it's been hijacked by boomers, right? Certainly. So I don't know, maybe Instagram is more the millennial network or Twitter. But anyway, I equally hate all of it. So I'm not a social media person.

But anyway, it's always interesting to think about like how did Jen's ears get exposed to grunge? Because like you said, you may have heard it on the radio for those who actually still listen to the radio. I mean, I grew up listening to the radio. But, you know, there's probably some Jin's ears who have parents, 100%. I think that's most of the case. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that like grew up in the 90s and, you know, would probably have played Nirvana and stuff. for them in the same way that like my parents played zeppelin for me and something like that you know

which is really it is i have a couple of friends whose parents are way younger than mine because my parents are like my mom had me when she was 36 they're both uh in their 60s so um i have some friends with parents who were way younger and did grow up in the 90s and it's so weird to me to like yeah see that because it feels like like because their parents might not even be that much um older than me really uh friends i have who were like i don't know 20 or something or something. You know, um... Yeah, it's weird. It's so weird.

It makes me feel old, but... It makes me feel terribly old. Yeah. It's weird, but at the same time, hey, you know what? I'm all for it because, uh, you know, if this kind of sound is going to come back and rock, then, you know, I'm here for it, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Because we, we often say on the show that like the 90s was the last good decade for, rock, you know what I mean, like proper rock and roll. So anyway, it's back. So let's talk about Soul Blind. These guys were originally in a hardcore band. Some of them were called God of Wine, which is interesting because that's the name of a third eye blind song, funny enough. So there's that 90s influence already right there from like the name of their old band. But anyway, God of Wine.

And then they formed Soul Blind shortly after that. And here is a quote from somebody in the band, probably the lead singer. He says, bands like failure, hum, sunny day real estate, my bloody Valentine, and deaf tones, all influence our sound. We wanted to make music to capture the sound of our youth while adding our own modern touch to it. So sounds of their youth means maybe they're, they might be, you know, probably between your age and my age like somewhere in between, right? Totally. And I think that's that's it. Like that's what it is right now that's happening with a lot of these bands.

Like they grew up listening to grunge and now they're old enough to make their own music and now we have grunge again, which is great. But with a lot of these bands, it seems to be like this interesting mashup of grunge and shoegaze and then like some, I guess emo, maybe a little bit. Like the vocal sounds emoish, you know? And like, yeah, yeah. Let's see other post-hardcore or stuff like that. So anyway, so let's play our first song. I'm so excited. All right.

So they've been putting out records, little EPs and singles, going back to like 2018. So I'm going to play a track from each of them, starting with this record called Untitled. They came out in 2018. So here is a song from Soul Blind called Searching. So deaf tone. The intro, wow, that just felt like listening to a deaf one song. And I loved it. It feels like Christmas.

It's like, you know, I love that sound. Yeah. And like, so that's interesting. So you heard deaf tones. And I confess, I haven't really listened to Devtones as much as I think I need you. But I have, you know, I've listened to the record that they're, I think they're most known for around the fur, right? Depends you ask. White Pony.

Depends. Diamond eyes. Those are my three pages, but it depends. So, I mean, I think around fur, yeah. So around fur is came around the fur in 1997. I've listened to that one. And I remember the thing that stick out to me about deaf tones was the singer's voice for sure. Yeah.

Yeah, Chino has a really pretty voice. And he like goes back and forth, obviously. But yeah, he's, I definitely, I really appreciate that about deaf tones is like sometimes if I need a little reprieve from listening to heavier stuff, it's got like a nice blend for me personally where he does go really soft sometimes. And yeah, I really love those vocals. Love the riffs. Oh, my God. Yeah, totally.

That was cool. Let's go to the next track here. So, yeah, I heard a little bit of smashing pumpkins in that opening riff. You heard some deaf tones. So more of like the melodic sounding bands of that era. He had like the phaser, like the flange effect on the guitar that kind of had more of a psychedelic kind of flare to it. Maybe some shoegazingness a little bit. His vocals reminded me of more land.

It's daily than anything too. I was trying to put my, especially in the beginning, I was trying to put my finger on it. I wasn't really sure who he reminded me of. And I hate to just draw comparisons instead of just appreciate it as its own thing. That's what we do around here, though. That's my head. Yeah, yeah, I love to connect dots. Yeah.

I hear that too. I can hear that because. It's a good familiar sound. I like it a lot. Yeah, it's familiar. And that's the thing that's interesting about this band and Narrowhead, who we've talked, we've talked about them a lot on no filler. it's like when you hear the music

you're like in your head it's like I've heard that where have I heard that before you know what I mean and you're trying to place it because like they take they take bits and pieces of so many different bands from that era and put them into like one song and so it's like oh that sounds like

Lane Staley's vocals and the guitar sound like deaf tones and it's like your brain is trying to process like who it is that these guys sound like And I think the answer is like they just sound like that decade. It's like an amalgamation of everything great about that 90s rock sound, you know. It's funny that we keep doing that too with music because like in every genre, like nothing comes from nowhere.

It's all like influenced by other stuff. It's funny to see like because grunge was influenced and like created for its own purposes in its own time. So it's funny to see like that specific thing now. is like a revival of that. There's a revival of that, but that was like a, you know, it's just very interesting to see how we keep like cascading. The cycles and stuff, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, because to what, to the point you just made about like 90s was, or grunge was made in response to like the 80s hair metal and stuff like that, like the bands were just trying to get more real, you know what I mean? And they were tired of like the showy, like, leather pants and stuff like that of like the Van Halen's whatnot. It's like, I wonder. what is influencing or like, you know, wire bands going back to that sound right now, you know,

like specifically right now, like in this day and age, like I wonder what, what it is about the grunge sound and even the look. Like when you look at pictures of these guys, these bands, they look like they just walked out of the 90s, you know what I mean? Like they're embracing the style and everything. Yeah. That, you know, that happens with fashion too. Like everything kind of goes in cycles. So it's all hitting right now. now at the same time as far as like just 90s. That's kind of coming back in general. All right.

Let's go to the next track here. So what's interesting about this, since they put out so many little EPs and stuff over the last four years, you can kind of hear them evolve a little bit and like kind of mature on their sound through these next three songs that I play because we're going to go from this last track was 2018.

The next one I'm going to play is 2019 and then 2021. And then they just put out a new single that we're going to listen to. so you can kind of hear them like figuring out their sound and stuff like that which is kind of cool. All right. So this next track I'm playing is called Falling Asleep. It came off of their 2019 single called Promo 2019. So they need to get a little bit more creative with their first one. It's called Untitled.

Anyway, they're figuring it out. You know, I mean, they're getting used to to be in a band and coming up with names for things. But anyway, promo 2019. And this is, we actually played the song, the second track on this song on this record, crawling into you was played on what you heard on No Filler years ago. So this is not a completely new band to No Filler listeners. But this song is, or at least should be. So again, this song is called Falling Asleep.

And here we go. Two for two. But yeah, like the more, this is the more like softer melodic side of like the alt-grunge sound, but like that bass sound is definitely Alice in Chains or at least that's what I'm hearing is like that really kind of sloppy bass sound or whatever. Where it's like he's just letting the string kind of vibrate. I'm pretending like I know what I'm talking about, but I think that's kind of what's going on with that bass sound. But yeah. Yeah, so what did you think? You liked it?

Yeah, I did. I'm just pulling up an album that it reminds me of a lot. Have you heard of the band Turnover before? I have not. They've got an album called Peripheral Vision from 2015. They're kind of like shoegasy-ish. I mean, definitely up your alley. This sounded so much like that album to me. Okay, cool. 2015. So this one's... Yeah. Okay. There's a song called Cutting My Fingers Off. That's very, like the vocals are very similar. That's what I was hearing a lot of. Okay, cool. Love the intro. Oh, my God, blew me away. Like, again, like, we were talking about I love when a song just, like, kind of,

like, surprises you. Yeah. It started off very strong, and the drums were, like, super heavy and, like, booming. I really love, like, the pacing of it. It was very cool. Very good. Yeah. I mean, these bands are really good at capturing that sort of, like, energy and And then like that sort of, yeah, the feeling that a good grunt song can give you, you know what I mean? Like whether or not the singers are up to snuff with like the legendary, like, iconic grunge vans from the 90s, doesn't necessarily matter. I mean, that's some of the critiques that these bands are getting is kind of like what I was saying earlier.

It's like, well, they're not as good as, I mean, these guys are no Eddie Vedder. Well, it's like, yeah, well, I mean, that's because Eddie Vedder was Eddie Better. you know what I mean like you can't really compare the two right but anyway it's interesting so you mentioned turnover I think they are mentioned in this article that I'm going to reference a couple times um on this episode so yeah 2015's right so I think this this grunge sort of like revival it's not like it's happening now and it's the first time it's ever happened like it happened in the 2010s too with songs bands like basement and drug church and nothing. Sure.

And turnover is also mentioned in this list. So it is interesting. This is kind of like the next iteration of it, I guess. Yeah, that's more of the stuff that I'm familiar with. Okay. So like nothing. Yeah, nothing. It's kind of probably one of the more well-known like bands that are kind of doing the,

the shoegaze, grungy kind of thing. But doing it in a more, in a different way, right? It seems like with these bands now like Soul Blind and Narrowhead, they're going more, I think, sonically more toward like an Allison chains, like the heavier side of it, whereas nothing seems to be more that kind of more like, you know, shoegazy, melodic. What did you say? Yeah. Depressing.

Depressing, yeah. There was something I noticed that was kind of weird. Stay with me here. So the end of the song, the vocals, so there were like. the clean vocals that were like soft and then they were like really quiet like screamo screams in the back yeah which was so like funny for me to hear because I was trying to place it and be like these guys are surely trying to reference something in the 90s but it really sounds like early like it sounds like 2010's like post hardcore emo scene kid stuff that I used to listen to which maybe

they grew up with too yeah and that's what's really interesting is because these bands you know Like, if you're making rock music in the 90s, there was no 2010's Emo yet, obviously, because it didn't exist yet. So, like, it's, it is cool with these newer bands that they're also pulling in, like, influences from emo and stuff like that from the 2010. Yeah. Love all the different elements. It's so fun. Yeah, it's interesting because it's just all getting, you know, mixed into this new kind of, this new sound, you know, which is kind of doing a little bit of everything, which is always cool. That's what I like about this new grunge sound is it's like it's the things we like from 90s grunge,

but also some of the things we like about 2010's Emo and post-hardcore like you were saying. It's kind of cool to hear it all sort of meshed together and shoegaze, you know, shoegaze as well. It's all sort of like, you know, packaged together in this nice, like perfect little thing, you know, which is cool. I like about that too is that people, it's clearly people who are making it because they like it. Yeah. It's just they want to hear it again or like, you know, try their hat out of it. Exactly.

Which I really like. Which is a good segue for this quote here. I'm going to have another quote from the lead singer of this band. I don't know his last name. But people just referenced him as sin, C-E-N. That's his name. Cool. Yeah, I know right.

But he says, we all got into grunge alternative bands from the 90s at a pretty young age. We have a local radio station. called WRRV that played alt rock and blessed our young ears with the classics. I like that phrasing of it. He says, as we grew older, we kept going back to those early influences and always kept them in rotation. So, yeah, it sounds like they also got into this music from radio. And that's what you were saying to you, right, that you heard a lot of these.

Yeah, that's, yeah, and that could have been, you know, some of the only ways to do it back in the day, back in the 2000s and saw 2010s. Anyway, yeah, they say, I think it's interesting that they say they keep going back to it. Because I find myself also always going back to 90s rock when it comes to, like, you know, like the heavy hitters that I listen to all the time. I always go back to 90s stuff because there's just something, something about it, you know. So I didn't mention this before, but these guys are from Hudson Valley, New York, if you would like to place them on the map somewhere. they are from New York and they came out of the hardcore scene like I was saying so they used to make hardcore music which is you know kind of could tell you why you hear some of that

and some of their influences right because that's what they used to make right anyway let's jump to the next track here and now they finally figured out how to name their records because this is from a album called well I think it's It's a single, so it's a name of the single. But this is called Third Chain. That's the name of the single slash EP. This song is the last track on the EP. And it's called Phantom Pool.

I don't even know what to say. I feel like I'm just going to say the same thing every time. But I just like all of them. They sound good. Like it's all solid. Yeah. I'm trying to think like does this, I feel like this one, maybe between the other two that we play at least, seems more, seems less grungy and more. yeah from the 2000 like the 2000s era email that's exactly what I wrote yeah I wrote that in my little

notes it was very like it felt more with each song I can feel them progressing and feeling like more independently their own thing yeah this felt very like like moving forward from the 90s um yeah and yeah definitely definitely definitely felt that it felt like it was something I would hear in like some i mean that's in like a positive way like a shitty like gritty 2000s low budget maybe horror movie but like there's not enough money for it to be really horror so it's kind of a thriller yeah yeah uh so yeah that's funny um yeah i can hear that you mean like it from like a horror movie from the 2000s or whatever yeah like a saw rip-off you know like the green lighting or something i don't know yeah yeah yeah

Okay, yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah, I'm just, I'm trying to find a band that I can compare these guys to from the 2000s and the 2010s. But I can't really, I just know that that's kind of where they're pulling from. You know, it's starting to go away from the 90s, which is what you were saying. Which is interesting because the last song that we're going to play, I feel like more so than any of the other ones that we played, goes back to Allison Chain. So it's almost like they're like, oh, cool. Just kidding, we're going to go back to the 90s again. But yeah, it's just interesting because you're getting all of it right with these guys.

And that's another thing. I'm only playing one track from each of these EPs. So, you know, from one from this track, you know, the other two on this EP. One of them sounds a little bit more grungy. But it's just cool that they have the capability to do kind of both. And you're going to hear everything in between like on any given like EP from them. And they are finally going to release their first full length in three days from when this episode drops. Oh, wow.

So they finally decided to, you know, put out a full length record. And this next song that we're going to play is from that record. So, all right. So the new record drops on November 11th called Feel It All Around, which if you are a fan of Chillway from the 2010s, it's going to make you think of washed out because washed out has a song called feel it all around if it's a cover of that song that would be the coolest thing ever i don't think it will be but anyway so easy to remember because it's it's the the name of that song that everybody knows from washed out if you know washed out anyway here is one track from that record called tribe and like i was

saying earlier i think more so than any of the other songs we played so far you're going to hear time. So here we go. Alternative metal like 90s, but like, like a perfect circle or like Chevelle sort of, you know, that was more in that, to me. Yeah. And they're definitely going heavier. Yeah. They're going heavier.

And like that thing in the chorus or where they stopped and yelled, yeah, like that was totally Allison chains or at least grand. like a that's a grunge steep way to do that. I'm trying to think of, there's another song too that I'm trying to think of it that does that exact thing. But anyway, so yeah, that's off of their new record like I was saying.

And to bring it back to bring it back full circle here from something you said earlier, interestingly enough, this record was produced by a guy named Will Yip who has produced for turnover before. So there you go. Oh, cool. Which is really cool.

It says here they entered the studio in early 22 with Grammy nominated producer Will Yip, who has done title fight and turnover records at Studio 4 recordings. And yeah, they were basically, they say they were looking for someone who could challenge them to be their best selves. So, yeah, it's amazing how much impact a producer can have on a record. Oh, my gosh, no kidding. Yeah. Totally. So this is their first time with this guy.

as the producer. So yeah, it's going to be interesting. So yeah, that's just a few days around the corner. So you can check that out very soon here. But I have a quote here from the vocalist, Sin. So he's the bassist and the vocalist about this song in particular. He says that this song is about the sunken place slash purgatory, a sonic representation of the last few seconds of life

before descending to an internal mind hell. Whoa. No wonder it's a heavy. song. He says, triggered by being stuck in a loop. The mind jumps down this dark alleyway that leads you to believe this is what a fearful, non-embraced death is. Panic and anxiety written, the song is Sonic Hell. Whoa. Okay. Wow. Well, there you go. So they wrote this during the pandemic. So like, you know, I think a lot of people were feeling like they're stuck in this purgatory, you know what I mean? For sure. So, yeah, I think we can all relate to that. Interesting that they

refer to it as a sunken place because that specific phrasing is used in Jordan Peel's Get Out. And that's like, yeah, that's like a super well-known thing from that. So I wonder if they took influence from that. Yeah, to that point. Like I think that's the first time I've heard that phrase is get out. Yeah. Suck in place. Yeah.

So it's funny that I guess that term is starting to sort of like get adopted into into pop culture a little bit beyond just the movie. Yeah. Which is cool. I mean, even in the movie. itself like I won't get into it but just like it's the same exact themes that they're discussing um like a purgatory sort of trapped like desperate you know so I totally like out of your body or whatever outside of your body and like out of control like you know no control stuff like that yeah interesting um but yeah I think I think when you hear that that's what the song is about

I think the music matches that perfectly because it does give you that kind of you know and that riff is killer too that bass riff from the beginning yeah. I loved it. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's soul blind. A few tracks there just to kind of wet your beak a little bit. Look forward to the new record coming out right around the corner a few days from now. All right. Well, thank you for joining, Ronnie. I feel like this has been like a long time coming, like having you on the episode on the show.

Yeah, it has. It's been like a year and a half that we've been trying to figure it out. Yeah. This is great. Yeah. So we'll definitely have you. back on and if we ever do ACDC we're definitely going to have you back on but um it would be insulting not to yeah okay now we know now we know who to go to for our ACBC uh guru yeah our resident expert but um thank you yeah that would be an interesting episode because i feel like we just haven't we have not at all like dipped our toes and like the the rock and roll like

gods or whatever, like the Led Zeppelins and the ACDCs and we've done episodes on Sabbath and we've done episodes on Metallica and stuff like that. But that's because like I have to sneak my metal in somehow, you know. Totally. We haven't really gone back and done like some of the staples like the Who or or Pink Florida or anything like that. So one of these days, if we do, if we, you know, do a batch of episodes on those types of bands, we'll do ACDC and we'll have you back on and that'll be sweet. You can school us on ACDC because I really don't know much beyond the basics that everybody else knows about ACDC, you know. I've been an expert for a long time. Have you?

Okay. There you go. You give us all the B sides and stuff like that, all the rarities and bootlegs and stuff like that. But yeah. The non-fillers. Yeah, exactly. The songs between the singles or whatever are catchphrases. Anyway, speaking of ACDC, there's probably a ton of.

of episodes on ACDC on the Pantheon podcast network, which is the network they were part of, because a lot of shows on our network talk about classic rock pretty exclusively. That's all I'm going to say about that. So go to pantheonpodcast.com. If you want to find us and many other music-related podcasts, also find us on Instagram. Just search for No Failure Podcasts, and we'll pop right up. That's the best way to get in touch with us. If you email us, we'll probably ignore it because we don't check our email very often.

And this is my weekly apology to this guy that emailed us back in June. And like I didn't see the email until October. I felt so bad because, yeah, this guy, Colin, Colin, if you're listening, this is my, you know, fifth apology to you. But please, please, please come back. Don't leave. Don't leave us, please. he had such great things to say about us and I felt really back to like yeah he had music recommendations for us and he wants us to make t-shirts and stuff I know come on Colin what cool you should make

t-shirts okay so now I've got like six people who have told me I need to make t-shirts so I really do need to make t-shirts now because I've been asking on the show like does anybody want us to make t-shirts and like we've just heard crickets you know for the longest time but now we've actually heard a few people now say that so okay and I'll make t-shirts You heard it here first. You will get T-shirts and Ronnie will get a free t-shirt because she's awesome. Oh my God, no way. I think you promised me that like a year-in-law.

Probably. You're probably right. Yeah, I've been talking about making T-shirts for a long time. I feel like the logo is so big. It's just a huge circle. I'm trying to figure out how to like crop it in and like, but would you want the full? I mean, the full thing? Yeah.

Okay. All right. Yeah. But I got to incorporate the word podcast somewhere on there because otherwise people are going to be like, no failure, what the hell's that about? But maybe they'll get them to Google. Then they ask me and then I tell them. Okay.

Or you could get podcast in there. Yeah, sneak it on on the bottom. Small print on the bottom. Anyway, I'm just going to do it. I'll make t-shirts. Sweet. And if I say it out loud on the podcast, then that holds me accountable to it, right?

That's right. Okay. It's on my friend. All right. Well, until next time, I think we're going to actually have Quentin on next week. So he likes to, you know, whatever he can squeeze in,

a recording in between baby things, you know, whatever it is he has to do as a father. It turns out babies are a lot of work. Like, who would have known? I hope to never find out. I'll trust you. Me neither.

All right. Well, tune in next week for, I don't know who we're going to talk about, but Quentin has a surprise for me. So we'll find out. I'll find out very soon because I'm going to record another episode with him here in a little bit. all right until next time thank you for listening as always thank you ronnie for joining us today

and we will talk to you guys next week