No Filler Music Podcast - Heavy, Spacey, Mesmerizing: Hum's Downward Is Heavenward

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

After 90s alt-rockers Hum gained a small amount of fame with their 1995 single "Stars", the band headed back to the studio to make their next record. By the time the Downward Is Heavenward was released in 1998, perhaps rock was ready for something else. The record garnered little attention, and the band dissolved, not putting out another record for another 22 years! But the record lived on, and it's masterful blend of space rock, grunge, post-hardcore, and a touch of emo sensibilities has lead many to consider it one of the best alt rock records of the 90s. Join us as we play a few tracks from this true hidden classic from rock's last great decade. Tracklist Comin' Home If You Are To Bloom Ms. Lazarus The Scientists Space Fuck This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Pantheon is a proud partner of AKG by Harman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Surprise, surprise to nobody. Because it's just me and you, dude, week and week out. Never a special guest. Rarely a special guest. We don't. Dude, you're my special guest every week. I saw you two days ago. That's crazy to me that that was just two days ago.

Yeah? Man, it feels like it was longer than that. We went to this place I'd never been to in my own backyard. Like a little Canadian diner called the Maple Leaf Diner. It was pretty good. It was good. They had a lot of, you know, of course they had Canadian bacon. But they had other things that were apparently Canadian inspired.

Yeah. They went a little heavy on the Canada. Right. It's like, calm down. Yeah. But yeah, anyway. It was like we get it. Yeah, we understand.

But yeah, speaking of Canada, this is a sidetrack. Not the sidetrack episode like we used to do, but like a sidetrack of this conversation. Have you seen turning red? No. It's good, man. It's the latest Pixar film. It's based in Canada. That's why I'm bringing it up.

But, yeah. It's the reason I I like it is because the characters and the story and stuff takes place in the 2000s. And these characters are about the age that we were in the 2000s. So, yeah. We're getting old to you because every, you know, movies and TV shows and stuff are just catering directly to our nostalgia for just wanting to go back to our youth, you know. Yeah, it's been pretty heavy-handed for the last few years. I'm not, I'm all here for it, you know. Yeah.

But yeah, the character has like a Tomogaji pet and stuff like that, you know. So, nice. He's obsessed with a boy band. Bailey Eilish and her brother, was it against Finneas or whatever? Yeah, I think so. They wrote the songs that the boy band is singing in the Pixar film, which is kind of cool. Anyway, all right. So today, we are talking about a band called Hum.

And this is not their first appearance. on the podcast. I brought them as a, what you heard a long time ago. I think I may have played a song off of the record we're talking about today, or I may have played one from their previous record. But then they also showed up in my best of 2020 list because after, you know, almost, I guess it was shit, like 22 years, they put out a new record in 2020. called Inlet. That was really good. That is quite a stretch of time.

Yeah. So for for for for for for for for hum fans it was you know, it was amazing to get a brand new record and one that was really good too. And we're covering the album that that came out just before that one 22 years ago. So this is the record that they went out on top with basically because it's kind of it's considered widely considered to be their best record and it's called downward is heavenward. So this came out in 1998. Before this, they had gotten a little bit of success with the single that they put out called Stars,

which was on their 1995 record. You'd prefer an astronaut. And are you noticing a theme here? You'd prefer an astronaut, stars, and you'll hear some lyrics on some of the songs we're playing today, but are also kind of space themed. they're considered a space rock band. And so I did a little bit of digging because I was a little bit curious. I know we've talked about space rock before.

Cave in, a band that we covered maybe a couple of years ago is considered a space rock band. But essentially it's just a, it's another, you know, there's multiple like subgeners that fall under space rock. But Shoe gaze actually is considered sort of like an offshoot of space. space rock if you want to like just group a bunch of genres into into the characteristics that make something a space rock quote unquote band i think that makes sense yeah yeah i can see that for sure so like shoegazing stoner rock metal and noise pop genres are all kind of under the umbrella so so some of the vans here that i'm seeing here that you know that we're pretty familiar with slow dive so there's your shoegaze my bloody valentine but also the flaming lips with which i thought you

I'm like, yeah, of course. Yeah, sure, there's Space Rock. Spiritualized, which we've covered as well. So, like, the origins of the term is 1960s psychedelic and progressive rock. And that makes perfect sense, right? Yeah, totally. Dude, I mean, I just got to get your take on this, dude, because I don't get this at all. By the 1990s, space rock developed into shoegazing and post rock with bands such as the Verve.

I'm just going to stop right there. The Verve? Bittersweet Symphony? See, that's the thing, dude. I bet you the verve, beyond Bitter'sweet Symphony, who knows what they sound like, dude? That's true. Yeah. Because they were somewhat of a one-hit wonder.

Yeah. Which I mean, I love that song, dude. It's a great song. It's timeless, you know? Yeah. But so that, so what was the song that played us in? That was actually one of the singles off this record called Coming Home. So that was pretty heavy on the distortion, and it felt very,

like grungy and almost like like post hardcore yeah well that's the thing that makes um great so they are if you wanted to just throw them into a bucket they're an alt rock band but they have elements of elements of shoe gaze elements of space rock post hardcore grunge gets thrown in there and on this record in particular you can see and here like a hint of emo, a little bit of emo, and like maybe even the type of stuff that I guess you would throw under like pop punk. Yeah. I'm not saying at all that hum as a pop punk band.

I'm just saying you can get a hint of it if you pay attention just in riffs and stuff like that. But like by and large, these guys, they are a guitar driven band. and the singer has such a great, unique voice, because the way he delivers it is very, like, clean. I mean, he'll scream occasionally, but pretty sparingly. But other than that, his voice is, like, very clean. So, like, it's a good balance.

And, like, we talked about this on the Pixies episode that we did, that they were known for the loud, quiet, loud dynamic. That would apply to this band as well. And his voice is pretty clean and quiet most of the time. And are you familiar with all of their their albums? Yeah. I'm very familiar with this record, and you'd prefer an astronaut the one before it. I haven't really given their debut record much listen.

It's called Elektra 2000. It came out in 1993. I think it's a little bit different. Oh, no, there's one before that called Filet Show. Filet Show. I just get, I just got it. Is that like a EP or is that a full length? It's got nine songs on it.

Came out in 91. Okay. Well, I haven't heard that one yet. But, um, I'm curious. Hey, let's just, why don't we just fade out with a random song that's not a single from it? I like to do that sometimes, you know, just have a fun little. A random song from Filet show? Yeah, for a fade out.

Yeah. Okay. I just, I'm just curious, you know? Yeah. I'm curious how different they sounded, uh, you know, in that span of seven years. Yeah. Sure. Okay.

Um, well, yeah, let me leave them. the roster real quick, and then we'll just jump in here and start playing some tunes. So lead singer name is Matt Talbot. He was also a guitar player. And then there is Tim Lash, the second guitar player. And then you got Jeff Dempsey on bass and Brian St. Pair, or Pier on on drums. Well, hey, man, before we move on, let's take a quick break. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. So, Trave, I actually have used BetterHelp in the past, and it was a really, really great experience. I loved my therapist. He gave me a lot of great tools that I still use to this day. You know, without a healthy mind, being truly happy and at

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Thanks again to BetterHelp for sponsoring this episode. All right. So we're just going to jump right in. We're going to make this about the music queue. And that's just a way of me saying that I didn't do any research going into this episode. But the tunes speak for themselves. That's what people are here for. Yeah.

Let's just cut to the chase. So I think I may have said this. last week, but this is one of my probably top 10 records of the 90s. So just putting that out there. And I think you'll see why that is. And a lot of people kind of consider this to be like a lost 90s record, as in like didn't get much attention, but it has everything that, that, that, all the ingredients to make like a hit record, it just never took off. Yeah. And from what I'm reading here, It looks like that single stars from you'd prefer an astronaut. I mean, really just that, you know, they had their 15 seconds because it was featured on Beavis and Butthead.

And there was some promo appearances on Space Coast Coast to Coast and a few other shows. So, yeah, that's kind of maybe a fluke. Yeah, and they had a music video that people remember. Yeah. Tied to that song. But. Which is in the 90s was the era, you know, that you could really blow up just over a music. Yeah, just over a music video.

Yeah, well, one of the things, I mean, maybe they just waited too long between the next record to maybe capitalize on that. But from what I understand, they're kind of perfectionists. And much like REM, they are very, like, Democratic with the way that they write the song. So they want to have everybody to be on board with things before they finalize something. and it took them a while to record this record. So, you know, they didn't really capitalize on their moment when they had that single. But that's okay because, like, what we ended up with is this amazing record. So, all right, let's play the first song here.

And we're actually going to play the first track. And this song is called Isle of the Cheetah. A second clip so we can keep here in the song because it kind of opens up a little bit more. what are your initial thoughts, Kew? Very cool. Yeah, yeah, you can definitely hear where Rock was heading. It was heading, yeah, totally. Which is cool.

And I wonder if, I mean, you mentioned pop punk, but I'm wondering how many of those early pop punk bands were influenced by the same bands as hum or which ones were actually influenced by hum at the time. Yeah. because yeah, it's interesting. This is, you know, this comes out in 98. We're right around the corner from 2000s era emo. And, you know, we're a few years out from grunge.

So, yeah, Rock's evolution was changing a little bit. But you can hear how they have kind of their foot in both camps, right? Especially with the grunge elements that are still there, like right beneath the surface. you know. So, yeah, let's pick it up here real quick. So this is, you know, what a great record opener, right? Because it's got that slow build, kind of starts quiet. And then the guitars come in. And his voice, like I said earlier, has this very quiet, clean delivery to it. He doesn't have any sort of like distortion in his voice. Like, there's no, there's no screaming most of the time on this record.

Very calm. Very calm, yeah. Not a lot going on there. I mean, and I don't mean that in the way, but yeah, it's just very like calm. Yeah, no, that's a good. And yeah, that's kind of the balance that their guitars and his voice have, like pretty consistently throughout this record too. And their previous stuff.

I mean, that's just one of the things that makes them interesting. All right. let's pick that up again this is uh is aisle of the cheetah i had to let that could uh play out there for a little bit yeah i love how just kind of uh you know the guitar chaos i guess that's happening in the background is just sort of building and layering on top of each other and uh you know they're they're doing like sonic youth style like uh you know chaos right not to the extent necessarily right sonic youth did it But, I mean, you know, creating this sort of this very loud, noisy, not necessarily a wall of sound, but kind of, I mean, this wall of guitar at least. Yeah, which I think is really cool.

And the whole time, his voice is that calm, sort of quiet. And what he's singing about is love, too. It's what it sounds like. His voice, his voice really is, and like his vocal melody, very pop punk. in emo like the stuff that was just around the corner so how excited were you when you press play on this record and this is track one you know what I mean like how stoked were you you dude you know you're in for a ride man you know you just like just yeah strap in if I remember uh I think this album must have been the one that

really like sparked your curiosity to start digging a little bit deeper for you know for 90s, alt rock. Yeah, I think you're right. This was around the time that I think, you know, we were still doing, yeah, weekly what you heard. And yeah, every week I'd be bringing a new 90s, old rock band that I'd never heard it before. And yeah, I think this was around that time because, like,

it's one of those things where, what else am I missing, you know? What did I miss? Right. I'm actually, I'm going to, because this reminds me, this conversation is perfect for this. I was reading some reviews of this record today. and I know we've quoted these guys before, Sputnikmusic.com.

It's like a music review site. And this is it right here, man. He says, I had never really heard of them until very recently. And now I'm angry that I was not let in on this little secret. And yeah, sometimes you do kind of get mad. You're like, what the, how have I? It happens to me a lot.

How have I been on this earth for so long? Yeah. And just now finding out about this band, you know? I'm kind of feeling that way about the album we're covering next week, the debut album from Lush. How did I miss this? Right. It's Lush. Like, I know about Lush.

How did I miss this? If you're only hearing what MTV or the radio stations at the time we're playing, you're going to miss it. Yeah. You're totally going to miss this stuff. It's just not going to pop up on any radar. So yeah. Now, hopefully, you know, this is the first time you're hearing of this band. and you're also, you know, getting let in on the secret, as that guy said.

All right, so let's move out on the next track here. Now, these next two songs that I'm playing are just a blast. They're a blast, dude. These are some fun songs. That first song, I Love the Cheetah, a little bit of a slow build, you know, kind of like an epic type song. It was like almost seven minutes long. It's, you know, trying to do something different than these next two songs are doing.

So here we go. We are going to play the third track on the record. This song is called If You Are to Bloom. Why that wasn't blasting at the loudest, you know, volume out of every radio station in America, who knows? Isn't that interesting to think about how, like, if, you know, if this did become a hit, any of these songs from home, you know, like how different things could have been, just in general, for like the trajectory of what continued to be popular in rock, you know? Because right after this, it was, it was Jimmy World, that, you know, that, that style and wave of email and pop punk.

Yeah. Right. Well, I mean, like we were saying, Hamas kind of, there's elements of that in this music. But, yeah, who knows who would have heard this song had it been a single and had. some airplay and maybe some MTV play. I feel like we would have been all over this if we just knew about it. Even in 98, I think we would have been into this. Yeah.

We were definitely the right age when the strokes is this hit hit and Jimmy World's Bleed American. That's when I remember paying attention for the first time to music. Dude, and one year after this, there is nothing left to lose. Kim Mount Pooh fighters. Can we just give a quick like, can we just give a quick? like moments here to mourn the loss of Taylor Hawkins. Yeah.

Dude. I mean, like what a tragedy. Yeah, dude. And he just, you just feel sorry for Dave more than anybody, right?

Because this is this, you know, he almost lost Taylor Hawkins. I don't remember the year, but I think it was, it was early on in the foo fighters and he, I think he, I don't think it was that much longer after there's nothing left to lose came out.

So it should be like, you know, 99, 2000. around that time just when like there was kind of a tiff in the band when like Dave Grohl started doing stuff with Josh Hami and Queens of the Stone Age. Yeah. And but anyways, like, you know, who else could have filled? Who else could have filled those shoes?

Yeah. Dave Grohl's shoes as a drummer. Yeah. And, you know, I know I've seen food fighters at least twice. So I've, you know, been in the same room as, like, Taylor, right? That's something you always got to think about. What a, like, energetic and fun, like force of nature.

Yeah. You know, like a musical presence. Him and Dave were such perfect, like, partners in crime, right? Yeah, dude. Yeah, it's tragic. And they just came out with that movie. I haven't seen it yet, but it's called Studio 666. Have you seen?

Oh, right. That looks like a blast. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, at least we have that, right? Like, it just came out. I'm sure Taylor is. you know, featured heavily in the movie. So now he is forever on film on a movie about a studio run by Satan.

Yeah, haunted studio, something like that. Anyway, yeah, it's tragic. But yeah, I was, that was the first Food Fighters album that I fell in love with. And the reason of bringing all this up, I think there was a place for hum and this album and this style of rock in the mainstream. and I think we would have just eaten it up, man. Totally. If it was, you know, if it found its way into the mainstream.

Yeah, and the thing is, it's not like it wasn't on a major label. They were actually on RCA records at this time. So it was on a big label. Someone dropped the ball then to the RCA. Yeah. Also, this song and this album, this music, reminded me of what Fiddlehead is doing. the album of theirs between the richness came out last year one of my favorites of the year

they've only made a couple albums and they've been around since around maybe like 2015 or so it's just i love when when there's you know torchbearers people that are they're carrying the the tunage along through to the next generation and they're definitely doing it and this style of rock is definitely still heavy. Yeah. And there's still a lot of great music coming out in this style. So that's always exciting to see. Yeah.

Yeah. The sound continues. Yeah, let me read some of the lyrics here because that's one of the things I love about this band. So, yeah, listen to this here. I dreamt of a jet this high, seeding clouds from the other side and glowing softly until the underbelly shines. and the back skims through the steam, feeding upturned mouths and sprinkling awake like a dusty sleep you took too soon,

and you need watering if you are to bloom. Dude. That's deep shit right there, man. Yeah. Poetic, beautiful. Surprisingly poetic. Yeah. I mean, that's something. So not only do you get tasty jams,

you get thought-provoking lyrics. that make you sit back and say, wow, I need some water if I'm going to bloom. Anyway, I love the lyrics of this song specifically. But anyway, all right, let's go to the next track because I got two more songs for us to play here. And again, dude, this might be my favorite from the record. This song is awesome. Here we go. This is the next track on the record.

This song is called Miss Lazarus. just got lost man it just got lost in the mix it's not like oh you know it's great great guitar work but like eh his voice just isn't doing it it's like no his voice is great too and the lyrics are really awesome so what is it now obviously dude this is a question for so many records out there that that don't get attention but you know it's it's probably a million things you know so Some of the ball. Maybe RCA was too busy. Maybe they already had a few rock bands that they were pushing.

And so Humb just got pushed to the back burner. I know for a fact that, and this could be part of it, that after this record is when the band dissolved. So maybe it's like, well, we can't push a band that's not together anymore. Because, I mean, what are they going to do a tour? Now, I mean, I don't think they immediately dissolved. I know they did some press, probably based on their, you know, their contract probably had them slated to do press stores and stuff. Because I know that there's interviews out there of them after this record came out.

But, you know, after, you know, it was 22 years until they put out something else, right? Well, as you mentioned, too, they approached it democratically as well. So, you know, if they just weren't able to, you know, reach some sort of agreement in their songwriting, they just weren't going to do it. Yeah. It basically sounds like they were, you know, they just got tired of making music together. And so that could be part of it. But the band went on to get a lot of, you know, they gained a lot of popularity over the years. You know, I jumped on to the boat a couple of years ago, right?

And that, you know what? That's what I love about music and really digging deep and, you know, approaching it as a hobby. Yeah. Yeah, it really is a hobby. And yeah, you're never going to run out of amazing bands to stumble upon, right? It's a beautiful thing. It's just impossible to hear it all, right? So, anyway.

All right, last song here. And this one, and we're also going to break into two clips. But here's another, this is kind of a, sometimes it's fun to do this. So we play the first track on the record. And now we're going to play the last track on the record, because. especially back then when you didn't have streaming services everywhere, bands put a lot of thought into the order of a record because that's how people are going to listen to it.

Back then, when you couldn't just download the single, right? Yeah. So here's how they decided to close out the record. And this song is called The Scientists. I was getting some, now you're going to be taken a pack and you're just going to be like, what? Go for it. that the the drumbeat guitar riffs the way that they played along with each other reminded me of some smashing pumpkin stuff

yeah hey i'm here for it yeah kind of reminded me of like siamese dream era smashing which dude i need to give that album another listen like all the way through all the way through hell yeah but yeah i was getting i was getting those vibes from it yeah i could see that Totally. I can totally see that. And, you know, smashing pumpkins probably, you could say, flirt with space rack a little bit, but maybe more because of the psychedelic aspect of kind of some of the early stuff. But yeah, dude, let me show you this website. This is amazing.

I don't know if this is their official website or not or if it's a fan site, but I love stumbling upon sites that haven't changed. Oh, I love this kind of stuff. In a long, long time. Oh, yeah. here is what I love, dude. So this is H-U-M.net. Fan site for sure.

Probably a fan site. It's got lyrics. Oh, it's got tour. Yeah, man. This is classic fan site. Yeah. The convenience had one like this. It was up for the longest time.

I think it's out of commission, but yeah. But yeah, anytime you see a site where the email address is webmaster at whatever the domain is, that's a relic from the past. right there. But what I like about it is on the lyrics page, he has, he or she, whoever quoted this site has these words clickable. And they take you to the definition of the word, which he has a whole page called terms. Because, you know, that just speaks to some of the vocab words that, some of the SAT words that, uh, that Matt Tolbert put in his lyrics. Dude, what a labor of love, this website. How cool.

Yeah. But I mean, yeah, here are some of the words that are in this song, the scientists. Benzine. I don't know what that is. Ampoles, ampules, something like that? Keep this benzene ring around your finger. Some kind of metal. Espy.

What is Espy? Trilobite. Trilobite. It's trilobite, dude. That's a ancient. Well, let me tell you what it is cute because I got this definition. any of numerous extinct marine anthropods. That's the word I was looking for.

So this guy went to college probably, the lead singer of the band. But anyway, now look at this, dude. This is where you get ready, dude. I'm ready. There's a link down here that says skins. What do you think this is referring to? Winamp skins? Winamp skins, dude.

What? Look at that. You remember this shit? This was the bar, man. I love doing this stuff. Yeah, dude. I loved it. So this is

Hum Winamp skins Yeah so this This fan guy Whoever made this fan site Made Winamp skins Man I'm up

Here is a The Scientist's Skin for this exact song That we're playing Dude Winamp was so cool It was man I think it's still around You know what dude

I'm sure it's still the same Here's something That You know Speaking of nostalgia For our youth The 90s right So I subscribe or you know I follow like 90s design subreddit 90s nostalgia stuff like that.

It seemed like and dude we were even talking about this with the freaking logo of the city that we grew up in yesterday. Just a text message between Texas and our older brother. It seems like things were much more colorful back in the 90s and playful. Everything had more personality. Yeah. Especially UI like interfaces and graphic design. Everything has become so freaking homogenized nowadays, man. Jinks.

Yeah, dude. So we grew up in a city called Carrollton, Texas. Mitchell. You grew up in Carrollton as well. Shout out to Mitch. Mitchell probably remembers the logo, the Carrollton logo. It was like a, it was the C, the letter C, but it was made up of like the white, space of like a bird, like a dove or something like that.

Very classic kind of 70s, 60s looking logo. It was really cool. And now you look at it, it's literally just some, it's probably like some very overused font face. I probably would recognize it if they told me what the font face is because we probably used it at the design agency I work for. And some stupid color, like some little symbol thing that could. It might as well be like the Google.

It could be any city in America's logo. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway. So when you look at stuff like this from the 90s, go to this website if you're out there, h-u-u-m.net and just appreciate how the internet used to be. And appreciate Winamp skins because that's a thing of the past.

Man, I was all about it. Like, why, you know what? Why can't I? Why can't I put a skin on Spotify, you know? Why not? There's probably ways to do it, but I'm not savvy enough to figure it out. Anyway, all right, let's, let's, no, that was a side track for sure. But let's pick up where we left off.

So again, this song is called The Scientist. Oh, yeah, we got a second clip, huh? Yeah, because there's a great little jam session that happens that I wanted us to hear, so we could truly appreciate the guitar prowess of these. two guys, because that's what makes them so great. They are truly a guitar band. So here we go. This is the second part of the scientists.

Great way to end a record. What a jam. What a tasty jam. You know, that was the last piece of music that we heard from them for 20 years, which is kind of a fitting way to end it, too, because, like, what a great song. You know, it kind of slowly fades out. And now what was the ending line there? Too little too late?

Too much, you're too late. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, great jam session thrown into that, the middle of that song. I feel like that's a good, a good, you know, marker of a good albumender is, you know, a good jam session. Totally. But, yeah, I bet you that's a song that they would close a set list, you know, because you extend that jam session out as long as you want.

you know, you just can kind of repeat that last lyric over and over again. Anyway, great record. Yeah, that was four songs off the record, right? Coming Home was the song that we introed us in with, and that was a single, and there was another single called Green to Me, and that's another great song. We could close with that, or we could close with a song from their very first record. I want to do a surprise fade out, dude. All right.

So we're going to fade out with a song. It can't be a single, though. That we cannot vouch for. I don't think there's a single on that record. I'll just, you know what? You know what, dude? Here's the song we're going to play, because it's the first track of their first record.

It's called Space Fuck. So we are definitely going to close with that. Space fuck. And the album's called Filet Show. Yeah. So love the play onwards. Who knows what we're. we're in for here, but

I'm going to close out with SpaceFuck by early, early, hum. So let's see if I can find it on the YouTube's because it's not on Spotify. Well, Trave, let me take a quick moment. I want to give a little bit more love

to AKG than I have in the last few months. Anytime you're going to playing, dude, you're always all just all hump, you know, hyped up on on AKG because, yeah. It is pretty incredible. Yeah, I was on a plane for about five hours.

I was on two planes for a total of about five hours a couple days ago flying back from Texas. And yeah, so we've been generously gifted the AKG podcaster essentials kit. But this is the all-in-one podcaster kit, dude. It comes with the AKG Lyra USB microphone. comes with the AKG K-371 headphones. It comes with Ableton Live Light 10. It's the 10 edition, which is an audio production software. And I didn't even realize this dude because I didn't use it.

But it comes with a free, the Berkeley Online introductory recording course. Comes with a course to get you all squared away to start recording. And yeah, I can wear these headphones for five plus hours all cramped into an airplane and still as comfortable as when I first put them on. It's kind of ridiculous, man. I can tell you that's not the case for all headphones. No. I wear my headphones for hours at a time every day. And sometimes they get a little uncomfortable.

And they are not. I mean, how are they feeling right now, brother? They're okay. but um you know for another hour from now i'd probably be i'd probably be feeling the pain a little bit so not the case with these AKG headphones dude and um i mean really this is if i knew about this kit before we started this podcast i would have been all over it it's a very fair price for what you get. And I mean, this is, this is studio quality stuff here, dude. I love, I love this microphone. I can't get enough. I love the design. I love the, like, maneuverability of it, the way you can

kind of rotate it around 360. It's got front and back and tight, it's got front, front and back, tight stereo and wide stereo recording modes. So you can even, like, I could record this with another person and do like an interview. You know, if I ever have someone in this house, sit down and record with us, I can just use this one microphone. It's pretty dope. So, again, that's the AKG podcaster essentials kit. Highly, highly recommended if you're looking to start your own podcast, just go with this

essentials kit. It's a no-brainer. So, yeah, as we wrap this up, next week we're going to talk about Lush. another alt-rock post-punk shugays group from the 90s. And we're going to cover it. Now, this is something I just found out, Trave. I didn't realize this. But the album we're covering is actually technically a compilation album.

But it's their kind of introduction to the U.S. and Japanese markets. So the album is called Gala or Gala, however you want to say that. It came out in 1990. and it has in reverse chronological order songs from their first three EPs. So it starts with songs from Sweetness and Light, which came out in 1990. And then songs from Mad Love, which also came out in 1990. And also some tracks from Scar, which was their first EP, which came out in 89. So we're going to dive into the first three EPs, essentially, here, which is really cool.

I didn't realize that. But yeah, this was one of those albums that, you know, as I was listening to it, and it's cool now knowing that these are songs that span a few years. I mean, just how, I just wasn't expecting it. Like, I've heard songs from Lush before, and it was just, you know, very classic shoe-gazy dream pop stuff. But this compilation record and, you know, their early stuff was was a lot heavier. I mean, I don't know how to describe it, dude. You listen to it with me. and yeah man I'm excited to dive into it and talk about it a little bit more on this podcast

because it just it really threw me off and I was well it makes sense that it's really digging in yeah it makes it makes sense that the songs are so wide ranging because it's not you know this is a compilation so it's the band kind of through through you know several years of making music and stuff and this was there this was America and Japan's introduction to to Lush So, I mean, that's a pretty smart move, I think. You know, it's just like, you know what? Here's all of our favorite tracks from our first three EPs, all thrown into one. And it did really great on the billboards and all that fun stuff.

So anyways, we'll dive into Gala. I'm going to go with Gala. Compilation Record by Lush, that came out in 1990. And not sure what we're going to do after that, but we're going to try to stick in this pocket for as long as we can and just dive. deeper into 90s alt rock. I mean, for as long as we can, dude, you know?

Yeah. There's just so much out there to discover in such a wide range and sound in that area. We could just continue to discover bands. And I mean, I feel like at some point we need to change the name of the podcast. Yeah, no filler 90s. Yeah, the 90s edition.

So Travis, where can they find us? Well, if you pull up Instagram, search for No Filler podcast, you'll find us there. And that's a good place to get in touch with us. That's about it, really. As far as what you'll get out of following us on Instagram. But if there's a listener out there who is as big of a fan of music as we are and has some free time and would like to help us out, we'll take any help we can get if you want to help us out with our Instagram. Like Travis said, a few weeks ago, we'll give you the keys.

Yeah, we'll give you the keys to the Instagram. We'll let you, you know, we'll ride shotgun. We'll let you steer. We'll let you steer this puppy if you want. So that's at No Further podcast is the handle. And we're also on the Pantheon podcast network. the network for music lovers there you can find a lot of

fantastic music-centered podcasts we love being a part of the family you can find us at pantheonpodcasts.com or at pantheon pods on Instagram and yeah next week we'll cover lush Travis

what song we fed in out with from Filet show the name of the song cue is space fuck. Oh, that's right. How could I forget? So from track one, they were leaning into the space rock genre with the song.

That doesn't even try to hide it. I mean, they just went right up the tailpipe with it, dude. Yeah. All right. Well, until next time, my name is Travis. And I'm Quentin. Talk to you all later.

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