No Filler Music Podcast - Hughes Tunes: Pretty In Pink

Episode Date: October 12, 2020

In our final episode on the music of John Hughe's iconic 80's films, we end with Pretty In Pink. Music is the backbone of this film in so many ways: the main character works at a record store, a bar with live music is a popular hangout spot for her and her friends, and of course who can forget Jon Cryer's lip-sync to Otis Redding's "Try A Little Tenderness"? And just like the films before it, Hughes' passion for music (especially new wave and post-punk) is behind every track featured on this iconic soundtrack. We listen to a few tracks from the film with an accompanying track from each artist. Tracklist: Talk Back - Rudy Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink Psychedelic Furs - Mr. Jones Jesse Johnson - Get To Know Ya Jesse Johnson - Just Too Much New Order - Thieves Like Us New Order - Lonesome Tonight Teebs - Studie (feat. Panda Bear) Boxcutter - Passerby Eddie Van Halen - Eruption This show is part of Pantheon Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Quentin. I've got my brother Travis with me as always. And this is our last stop on the Hughes Tunage. We're covering pretty in pink tonight. John Hughes teen rom-com from

1986 dude I just finished watching this like an hour ago Now was that the first time you've seen it all the way through? I have definitely seen it before it's been a while though big fan dude

big fan yeah I really really enjoy this film and like coming off of our our discussions of 16 candles especially but also weird science to some extent. Yeah.

It's nice to see, and we didn't watch Breakfast Club, at least for this batch of episodes, but going from 16 candles to Pretty in Pink, seeing a female lead character who has agency over her decisions and stuff stands up for herself. She stands up for herself. She's fucking smart as hell. Yeah. And she has like a real relationship with her father. They treat each other, you know, with respect. Both of them do.

That is my favorite thing of this film, dude, is the relationship between her and her dad. It's fucking great. Yeah, they have like real conversations, you know, and talk about problems that they're going through, you know, and talk it out. Dude, one of my favorite lines from the film is when she's talking to him about their mother, her mother. Yeah. Who leaves them, she does. It's not a death. Sounds like she went out for a pack of cigarettes type of thing.

Yeah. But like, you know, she's just kind of bringing them down to reality. You know, you got to get over her. Yeah. Whatever, yada, yada. And he's like, you know, when is a daughter supposed to be smarter than the father? You know, and then. Yeah.

I just love that shit, man. Anyway, yeah. So this film. We're jumping the gun a little bit. Yeah. But I was just going to say, it's got a lot of heart. And it has the same kind of, I feel like it is, it's, it's, no surprise that he went and wrote Ferris Bielo's Day Off shortly afterward, right? Like,

you can tell he's getting better as a writer. Like, when you watch all of these films next to each other, right? Yeah. And what I noticed more than anything, the dialogue, the script, the writing, it's much more real. The conversations that the characters have with each other feel more genuine. Yeah, exactly. And because, you know, and because they're, you know, they're talking about things that don't necessarily move the plot along in some scenes. You know, it's just conversations with friends. Right. Should we do a brief synopsis real quick and then jump into the tunes?

Sure. Okay. Yeah. Well, let me just, let's just read, this is a nice short and sweet, one sentence long description. A poor girl must choose between the affections of dating her childhood sweetheart. or a rich but sensitive playboy. That wraps it up pretty nicely, actually. See, I never really saw her and Ducky,

or Ducky as a childhood sweetheart. Like, I never, it never looked to me like she was ever grappling with the decision to date Ducky. Ducky, obviously, was pining for her. Has been in love with her since they were kids, probably, yeah. That's right. We'll get to that later. But, yeah.

So Andy is, is, uh, Molly Ringwald's character. And Ducky is her childhood best friend. Played by John Cryer. He's a funny, dude, he's funny. Really funny. Yeah, he's funny. Yeah, he's good.

As a kid, you know. And, yeah, what I liked about the movie and about the characters, he took a different route for a romantic comedy and where he made it, you know, it's a rich versus poor thing. You know, not a, not necessarily a popular, a popular kid versus a nerd, you know, necessarily. It's more about, you know, being shameful or, you know, should you be ashamed of how much money you have and should that get in the way of who you date? And that goes for both her character and what's the name of the rich kid? Blaine is his name.

Blaine. Yeah, yeah. yeah a lot of interesting uh and we got to talk about the the the the the giant asshole that uh james spader played oh man holy crap so he plays he's another rich kid who's good friends with blaine i mean like over the top caricature of rich asshole you know yeah yeah but yeah dude he was well cast yeah for sure but yeah anyway i like how all the i like how all the teenagers are smoking cigarettes It's like there's even a scene where one of Andy's friends, she's like smoking a cigarette in the gymnasium during school hours.

Like just sitting in the corner smoking a cigarette. Sure. And Andy's like, put that out, man. What are you doing? Well, yeah. So, all right. So we're talking about the music, obviously. This is what we're focused on.

Yes. This felt to me like a return to just the amount. of music that you got in 16 candles. Now, 16 candles, as we talked about, was all over the map as far as like you had the Godfather theme song and the Dragnet theme song, really wacky stuff like that. He didn't really do any of that kind of stuff on this film. But it was a lot of post-punk new wave stuff

and a lot of like synth pop kind of stuff, which he's done a lot. Like that's kind of his bread and butter, I feel like his new wave, you know, which I mean, that's, because of the decade, right? And we should say, too, that the film is named after the Psychedelic Furs song. Right. It's not like Pretty in Pink by Psychedelic Furs was written for the film.

It came out several years earlier on an album called Talk, Talk, Talk. And they actually, they re-recorded it for the film. They did, I guess, a more polished, like, popular version of the song. It's less aggressive than the original version. but yeah, he named the movie after the song, which is kind of cool. Again, just shows you how obsessive John Hughes is with music, right? He's naming a movie after a song from a new wave band, you know. So that's kind of cool.

Here's what I like about this film, too, and we're going to actually play one of these songs. We're actually going to play the clip from the film. Music is such an integral part of this film that there are two scenes where they're actually in a bar, which I'm kind of confused about because none of them are of age. Oh, no, they talk about that. Ducky's sitting with the bouncer guy in the alley behind that club, and he's confused as to why the guy always lets his friend Andy in, but he never gets in. So they just let her go.

So the guy lets. Gotcha. Yeah. Anyway, there's a live band in the film, two different live bands. One of them is called Talkback, and the other one is called The Rave Ups, I believe. And they're actually like part of the film. Like they're in the background playing a live set, right? Which is the kind of stuff that you and I did when we were in high school.

We'd go to concerts and stuff and it was the coolest fucking thing. Oh, yeah. When you're in high school to go to concerts, right? Yeah. And let's mention too that Andy works at a record store. That's right. Yeah. So this is like part of the fucking film.

The music runs through this whole thing. Oh, yeah. All right, Q, so let's play this scene here. This is one of the club scenes where, you know, Ducky is outside because he's not allowed to go in because the bouncer wouldn't let him in. And Andy is inside talking with some friends, listening to some live music. And the band in the background is called Talk Back. and there's not much info on these guys. They're a ska band.

And it sounds like from what I've read that they are now called Headbone, or at least that's the, you know, of the members of Talk Back that are still playing music together. They go by Headbone now. But this song in the film is called Rudy. And apparently it's a really rare ska song to find. Like I'm reading a blog post from 2010 where somebody's like, Rudy by Talkback, finally, the missing song from Pretty and Pink. And so like, there were three songs that weren't on the official soundtrack,

all three of them being the songs from the band. Yeah, from the club scenes, basically. And the other band, they were called like the wave-ups or something like that. That's not rare you can find their stuff anywhere, right? Yeah, yeah, this song, like, we're playing. the actual clip from the movie. Like, I couldn't even find a solid, like, high-quality, legit recording of this song. Yeah.

So, yeah, like, the only version of it out there is this bar scene. Yeah, well, I mean, apparently there is, there is an MP3 of it out there. But I like the live scene. Me too. I like the version that they play. That's what this person was saying that's blog post is that you can find versions of the song that they don't sound like the live version. so maybe if they ever got around to recording it, maybe they changed some of it.

But what we hear on the movie is a really great take on the song, however it sounds now, right? So yeah, let's play it. This is going to be cut straight to that scene. And the first thing you see is the stage and the band playing the song. And then we'll fade out towards once they start having their conversation at the bar table. All right. So here is Talk Back and their song, Rudy. I stuck my head out.

What a great song, dude. Yeah, man. The funny thing is, like, as this person was alluding to you, like, this is the missing song from the Pretty Indian Psy soundtrack. There's probably so many people out there that for years were trying to track this band out and figure out who they were. And, you know, because the song is so great. And it's so prominently featured.

Like, it's a straight shot of them doing their live performance for, what, like 30 seconds, you know? Yeah. And, dude, I'm pretty sure that the lead singer is Dana Carvey. He looks just like him, dude. But no, that's going back to what we've been saying about John Hughes and what makes his films so great, you know, he's just, he's a huge music fan. And the fact that Talk Back is a band that you can barely even find information about them online. You can't find good copies of their music.

You know, that just proves that this, again, is just another under the radar band that John Hughes, you know, just had to have in one of his films. Yeah, and I think it, you know, he didn't direct this film, but there's no way he didn't have some involvement in deciding which bands were going to be featured in these scenes. Because this is like, it's a really cool scene to see. And I think it captures life as a high school kid pretty well as far as like, we all remember those, you know, our first concert, you know. or just going to these clubs when you're in high school or college or whatever.

Like, this brought me back to that and made me nostalgic for live shows just seeing this scene, which is crazy to think that, like, there's nostalgia for live shows because it's been so long since we've been able to do that. You know what I mean? Yeah, and it's funny too because, like he said, Ducky's in the alley talking to the bouncer guy. He won't let him in. So Ducky doesn't even know because Andy starts talking to her friend about, like, Like, what are her views on dating a rich person?

That's a good call. So poor Ducky. I didn't put that together. But yeah, that's why I win it finally. He doesn't even know yet that she has a crush on this guy. He doesn't see it until he shows up at the record store. At the record store. For the date night, you know.

Yeah. Poor Ducky, you know. He puts on this great performance in the record store of, was it, Otis Redding or whatever. I think it's Otis Redding, yeah. And he's like, this is it. This is going to be, this is going to be the move that wins her over. Yeah, he dances around and lip sinks to Otis Redding. Yeah.

Yeah, she's just not having it, though, man. Yeah. All right, dude, so you want to move on? Yes. All right. So, yeah, we're going to play the title track of the film by Psychedelic Furs called Pretty and Pink. We're going to play the original track off the album, not the one that shows up in the film, Because like I said, we recorded it just for the film.

We're going to play the actual song from Talk, Talk, Talk, came out in 1981. So five years earlier than the film. So yeah, let's listen to this. You'll recognize it from the movie, but it might sound a little bit different. All right, here it is, Pretty in Pink by the Psychedelic Furs. I got to say, Treve, I never got into the psychedelic furs. I know you dove into them a little bit more. Do a lot of their songs have this vibe?

I got to say they're kind of one note, if you will. A lot of their songs sound like this. I'm just a really big fan of one particular song, which was a single. It's called Love My Way. That's a good one. That's a fucking killer song, dude. Isn't that in the wedding singer?

Oh, I have no idea. soundtrack with Adam Sandler. It wouldn't be surprised. It is. But dude, Love My Way is one of my favorite 80s tracks. I want to say that they showed up on the one of the Grand Theft Auto soundtracks.

See, now that might be, there's probably Miami Vice because that's the one that played. It would have been that one. It definitely would have been that one. Yeah. Yeah, of course. And it was Love My Way.

There you go. That was probably my introduction to the song because I was, you know, I played Vice City when it came out. Did I say Miami Vice earlier? You might have said Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vice City.

I'm talking about. So Vice City came out. God, I want to look this up, dude. This is going to make me feel. old. It's going to, yeah, it's going to be depressing, dude. Probably 2005, 2006, probably even earlier than that. 2002. We were in high school for sure. Jesus Christ. Yeah, dude. What did we play that on Xbox? Probably, yeah. Yeah, I would have played it on Xbox. Yeah. Good times, man. Good fucking times.

You know what, dude? What? I bet you that soundtrack introduced a lot of people from our generation to 80s music that they may never have heard. There's a lot of good 80s music on that, on those, on those radio stations. Exactly. Anyway, all right, let's, like we've been doing, let's, let's play another track here, a non-single, which is what we like to do. And do you want to play one from Talk, Talk, Talk? Yes.

So we're going to play a song called Mr. Jones. I'm into it, dude. They're, they're us into the 80s. and this is like first wave new wave uh i think new wave goes back to like the late 70s with like talking hansom stuff yeah and the cars but this is definitely like punk new wave it's a little more punk yeah but i you know i was listening to it and i was trying to put like a cars spin on it and it totally works as a car song i would love to hear that that'd be great yeah but like it's it's kind of it's it's that more kind of like how, you know, like the Ramones are more like pop punk, you know, I don't know

if pop punk's the right word for the Ramones, but you know what I mean? Like it's the more upbeat kind of punk. The cars would fit that bill, I think, but it's, but it's with the new wave flare, you know, the new sound that was forming in the 80s. But yeah, definitely. It's got the punk origin, you know, the punk roots definitely still there. Yeah, I want to say talking heads was like one of the first bands to get that label thrown on them. I think we talked about that on our new wave or our Talking Heads episode that we did way back in the day, man. Yeah, yeah. All right, so let's move along here, did. So, this next artist cue, you were excited when you saw that this guy showed up on the soundtrack. So you are a fan or you've you've listened to this guy in the past. His name is

Jesse Johnson. So what makes this guy such a badass? Yeah, let me tell you a little bit about him. And my history with him. You guys go way back, huh? Dude, we go a few years back. I first stumbled upon him at a half-pressed box, flipping through the records, dude. Did you find this exact record? Yes. Oh, dang. No wonder you purchased it in a fucking hot second. Of course, dude. I know you look at that album cover? I would defy anybody to not want to purchase that immediately when they see it. We're talking about Jesse Johnson's review. That's the name of the record.

Yep, and that was his debut album. So this guy, so this guy used to play in Prince's band. And it definitely sounds like it, you know. It's that same kind of style. Now, hang on. Let me make sure I get this right, dude. So there's a band called Time.

Have you heard of them? The Time, yeah. Yep. So that was a band formed by Prince. and Jesse Johnson was the lead guitarist for time originally. Dude, I want to do an episode on Prince, but I want to focus on his early stuff. Same, dude. I would love to do that.

His early stuff is amazing. Yeah, let's do that. So you take one look at Jesse Johnson's review, the album cover. Actually, no. I did one other thing before I decided, oh, this is definitely going home with me. I flipped it and looked at the back. and let me tell you, dude, it is gold.

I'm going to show it to you right now. Gold. You hear me? Gold. Okay. I got to see if I can find a large enough. Here we go. Here we go.

Look at the members of this brand, dude. And tell me that guy second from the left. How is that not Michael Keaton? Now we're starting to connect dots because Prince shows up on Batman. Dude. Now it's all coming on. Anyways. Yeah, I had to buy it.

This is like the, just the perfect 80s pop record. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, everything about that. Yeah, you just think early prints. Anyways, let's just play some of it. Yeah, so, all right, let's just say this. So, technically, the song that is featured in Pretty and Pink by Jesse Johnson was released on the soundtrack.

So it wasn't tied to another Jesse Johnson album. it was just part of the Pretty and Pink soundtrack. So we're going to hear that one first. And this song is the song that plays in the background at the asshole rich party that they go to. So basically, Blaine is the dude's name. You know, he's asked Andy out, hey, let's, you know, you want to go out or whatever. Yeah, he really likes her. And she's like, Tee, yes.

And then they go on a date, he takes her to his radio. which turd face, his friend. What is his friend's name? Steph or something like that, right? Steph. Takes him to a part of this guy's house. And this is a song that's playing in the background. Now, I would argue that Turd McGee would not be listening to cool music like this, but whatever.

But yeah, here we go. So this is a song by Jesse Johnson called Get to Know You. Let me tell you, dude. That song is a snooze compared to all the songs on Jesse Johnson's reviews. He probably just phoned it in for John. So did John approach Jesse? I bet you he did. He'd write a song for pretty...

Here's why I think he did, dude. Because as both of us noticed, this record is featured in two different places in the record store that Andy works in. Like you can see... Jesse Johnson's... Yeah, that record cover is like... There's a poster.

Yeah. So that to me says John Hughes was a fan. man. Because as I read about, you know, as with all of his films, John Hughes was obsessed with the music, right? And like, from what I read, there's a quote from the costume designer, Marilyn Vance, who I recognized her name and the credits for weird science, and I think she's worked with him. She's kind of like his Ira newborn, right? Gotcha. She says here, the music he chose, especially for Pretty and Pink. It just altered my whole everything.

It just got me into something. And that's really a lot aside from what he wrote about the character in the script. It just brought it to life. He'd say, okay, this scene, I'm going to drop this music into there. And he'd play it, and it was incredible. It just danced in your head. Yeah, that's great, man. And that's so cool.

She's saying that it basically, like, it tied everything together. When he would play the song for her, you know, think about it. She's the costume designer. So like even with the music choices that John Hughes is bringing to the table, she says it kind of ties everything together. So. Yeah. So I can, I can definitely see that where, yeah, if you're working on the film before you see the final version of it. Yeah.

Yeah. And then he goes, okay, and this scene, like this is the song going to play during it. And she hears it. And she, like she was saying, that changed everything like that brought the movie even more to life. Yeah. Changed everything. So, yeah, I'm sure John Hughes was a fan of Jesse Johnson. Right. Yeah. And let me tell you, Traff, after listening to Jesse Johnson's view, I was a big fan too, man. And we're going to play my favorite song from that album.

Which is funny because I picked this track without even asking you what your favorite track was off of this album. So like this one jumped out to me too. Like I was such a fan of. It's a fucking banger, dude. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. All right. So we're going to listen to a song off of Jesse Johnson's review called Just Too Much. There's nothing not to like about it. I don't know, man. It's not a double negative. Girl, you're like a fast car. Everyone wants a ride. You know what I'm saying?

Take that the truth, man. But yeah. Yeah, man. Just perfect, like, quintessential 80s song, you know what I mean? I mean, yeah, dude, like this was the new sound. Yeah. With the synthesizer and, like, yeah, everything, dude. The imagery, like, they're, the whole.

whole package that they were delivering, dude. Yeah. This was it, man. This was the new, this was the new everything. Exactly. And it does sound like it could be a prince like, you know, B-side or something like that. Totally. I mean, Prince would have, well, no need to say that.

Yeah. So, yeah, anyway. Great song. And this makes me love John Hughes even more, you know? Exactly. All right. So we have one more track, dude. So I think I'm trying to think if there's anything else I want to have to talk about like with the film.

I think, well, this isn't a movie review. It's not. It's not. But we, we, you know, we pointed out some things that bothered us about 16 candles. Well, I will say, you know, if we're going to go down that route. Are we going to talk about Ducky, dude? Yeah, we're going to talk a little bit about Ducky. Let's talk about Ducky.

Okay. He's a little bit too clinging. obsessive? Yeah. Entitled. He's madly in love. Yes. And he's been in love with this girl

probably since they met and they're childhood friends. Right. I get that. Yes. But he was a total dick at the bar when she brings Blaine

to meet up with him at that bar. Oh yeah, of course. I mean, yeah. Total dick. And then he kisses her best friend, the older girl that works at the record store. Yeah, she's,

what's her name what's the actor's name oh I don't know she was in ghost posters yeah she's she's the receptionist in ghost posters yeah yeah any pots I think is her name yeah but you know let's just there is a he he perfectly uh captured

the stereotype the I think it's called like nice guy stereotype nice guy yeah trademark I think usually has the trademarks I'm on next which is like like, you know, nice guy equals entitled to a date or love or something like that, and being like, hey, I've, you know, I've always been nice to you, you know.

Yeah, and I've always protected you. Yeah, and I've always been there for you. So, therefore, why aren't you in love with me yet? You know, that kind of thing. Right. And that's Ducky, like, perfectly distilled. And of course, he circles around toward the end and becomes the- He proves that he really is.

is a true friend to Andy. I think he lets his jealousy. He pushes that aside. And yeah, he says, go after him, you know. Sure. You still got a chance. Here's the thing, Hugh. You're ready for this? I'm ready. That is not the original ending that John Hughes wanted for this film. His original idea was to get Ducky and Andy together to pair them off. Okay. But at the last second, the director wanted to do it the way that they did it. And you know why? I don't know if it was the director specifically, but the studio maybe were concerned

that the movie would have come off as classist if they didn't pair the poor girl and the rich guy together, which is fucking ridiculous. That's stupid. Especially when you consider the way that they ended it. It ends kind of abruptly. Yes. But like, that's just fucking dumb, dude. But whatever.

And you know what? We're not, I feel like we're speaking too vaguely. I also don't think. If you're curious, go watch the movie. Yeah, yeah. I also don't think the Ducky and Andy made sense together. I think they made sense as best friends. Yeah, sure.

Sure. But anyway, so yeah, I really related to, to, to, um, those. those two characters. Andy and Ducky, like I feel like I had friends like that. I knew people like that. They dressed differently. Exactly. That was my group,

you know, my people, if you will, back in the day. Back when I was in high school, those were the kind of people I would gravitate toward. People that are a little bit off, a little bit different. The thrift store clothing, you know, making your own clothes, not because, in her case, it's because she was bored, but like because you don't want to follow the trends and stuff.

Oh, I did that shit all the time, dude. You don't want to. Right there with you, Ben. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, um, all right, Q, we got one more track. Actually, we got two more tracks. So, yeah, we got two more tracks. Oh, crap.

We got one more band. One more band. So this. And hey, can I just say, dude? I can't wait to play my watcher heard for you, man. You're going to love it. Oh, shit. I got to pick a what you heard.

Um, um, so this group is a little, a little band called New Order. Which, I mean, everybody knows who knew what it is, right? I think so, yeah. I got to say, man, after listening to these two songs, this is one of those groups that I realize that I just don't, I don't have enough experience with these guys. And listening to these two tracks made me realize I need to maybe pay attention to these guys a little bit for a little bit, you know? There's no time like the present, dude, you know, especially with music.

Oh, yeah. Doesn't matter how late you get into the game. Sure. So, New Order, if we wanted to give a quick synops, who these fellows are, they formed after the demise of Joy Division. As in after Ian Curtis committed suicide, all the other members of the band formed New Order. And that happened in 1980. So these guys are all over the soundtrack, by the way. There's actually three tracks from them on the soundtrack. and all of them, I believe, no, that's not true. I was going to say all of them are written specifically for the movie, but that is not true. The two tracks that we are playing actually showed up as a scene.

So the track featured in the film was a single that they came out with in 1984. It's called Thieves Like Us. And this song is played during the scene where Annie is piecing together her pink prong dress from the, to dress that her sweet father fucking buffer because he's a nice dude. I love that guy, man. The actor, that was perfect casting. I just have to say.

What's the actor's name? I want to say his name correctly here. Just, yeah, dude, sometimes when I'm watching a movie, I'm thinking, like, I wonder how hard this must have been for this actress to look at this guy and, like, this is my father. But with him, like, she must have been thinking the whole, Like, this really is my dad.

No acting, no acting involved. Yeah. Like, this is my dad. His name is Harry Dean Stanton, best known for his role in Alien as Brett. But yeah, man, you know why? You know why he was perfectly cast? Because he's not your typical-looking 80s dad, right? Yeah.

Like, he's not, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like you look at the dad from Ferris Bueller even, or the dad from 16 candles even. And like there was this kind of like generic white dude dad. Well, yeah, it's a very one dimensional character. Right. Harry Dean Stanton cast as her single father. It's the perfect casting dude, especially with the kind of the plot points that he had where he was kind of working part time.

And she was trying to get him in a job. He was struggling with a lot. I think he may have been my favorite part of the film. Anyway, all right. So while she's piecing together this her iconic pink prom dress, this song. this song is playing in the background. It's called Thieves Like Us by New Order. So there's actually a verse and chorus and stuff that comes in later.

But the movie actually just had an instrumental version of the song. And that's basically what you heard is that kind of intro, right? Yeah. And honestly, while I was watching it, I figured that this was an Ira Newborn piece. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Ira Newborn is not featured on this film as another composer that shows up. But that just tells you how it tells you how Ira Newborn was basically like, you know,

had the fucking pulse of pop music when he was writing this kind of stuff, right? Like the song that we played last week on Weird Science, right? Oh, yeah, that lost on the internet. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Yeah, so that was thieves like us. So we're going to play the B side of this single that came out, I think it came out in 1984. So we're going to play another new order song here called Lonesome Tonight.

Let me more of that, please. I love that song, man. Me too. Yeah, I love that little breakdown there between the two verses. Took a little quiet guitar day going on in the background. So really cool. So many bands from, so many indie bands from the 2010s tapped right into the sound, dude, big time. They must have been a fan.

Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, but like, you know, the indie sound, I'm thinking like, you know, even bands like Arcad Fire a little bit, maybe just had maybe a little bit. Yeah, maybe the shins a little bit. Yeah, to me, this could have come out as a single in the 2000s and I think it would have charted, you know. Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, to the extent the indie music charted back in the 2010s. But yeah, it would have gotten some subtraction, I think. but yeah i think you know it tapped into a little bit of shoegaze a little bit a little bit oh absolutely

this the guitar the tone of the guitar the reverb yeah anyway um good stuff good stuff right so that was lonesome tonight by new order all right cue we've reached the end of our journey together through a few iconic john hugh's films we started with ferris bueller which was great we ended on another high note with Pretty and Pink. I think so. Yeah, absolutely. And dude, we listened to some great music these last four weeks. That's true.

Music that we probably never would have listened to. No way. Especially a song like this, the B-side to some obscure single by New Order. Yeah. Totally. Obscure, you know, aside from the fact that it was featured on Pretty and Pink. But yeah, we would never have never would have talked about these guys. So I think it was a good decision.

to tackle the 80s through the lens of John Hughes. Next week, we're going to return back to sort of our normal format as far as just kind of talking about, kind of what everybody feel like talking about. Diving into one album. Yeah, one album. And just talking about wherever we want to go, you know, wherever we decide to flow. And I definitely, I want to spill beans, dude. All right, let's tell them.

So this is going to be a first for us. we are going to cover a brand new album and it's going to be one of our favorite bands of all time easily, always and forever. Yep. Fleet Foxes and their new album, Shore, which just came out a few weeks ago.

Came out a few weeks ago. And I... Oh, man, that album is just such a breath of fresh air, dude. It's great, man. It's one of those things that, from what I read, and I'm going to have to dive much deeper into this. but he sort of hesitated

he wasn't sure if he was going to release the record this year yeah it's one of those classic like we almost didn't even have it

yeah I'm guessing it had to do with COVID but we'll find out we'll dig into it a little bit more and I'm curious to know how many of the the Fleet Fox's crew

that he's had with him in previous albums how many of them showed up on this record like I don't know anything about it other than obviously

it's Robin Pecknold well I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the horn player same dude because here's a moment in this new album where i'm the chaotic is he going to go yeah is he going to go ham on the horn again and definitely not but i got word for a second ham on the horn um yeah so anyway so that's next week we're going to talk about flea fox's brand new record shore and dude it couldn't have dropped in a better time in in the world well yeah and and and They dropped it on the equinox, the autumn course.

Autumnnal equinox. That's right on brand with flea boxes. Yeah, yeah. All right, Q, let's do our, let's do our What You Heard segment. Do you want to go first, or do you want me to go first? I'll go first. All right. So Q, what you heard?

Well, hold on. Let me break it down for people, Q. I have a feeling we may have some new listeners just between now and last week. You might be right, dude. Just a hunch. I don't know if we've been right. I don't know if we've really explained what you heard is lately, but basically the idea is I say, hey, Q, what's your heard?

And then he, you know, brings a song to the table. And I say, well, let me tell you, friend. And he says, let me tell you, friend. And then he plays a song. The idea is, you know, Q and I, we listen to a ton of music, obviously. And this is just another way to bring two more tracks to the episode that are usually, you know, completely unrelated to the artists, artist or artists that we're talking about on the given episode. And they're usually two very different genres too.

So it's just a way to kind of mix it up and just hear two other songs. Hopefully we're introducing you guys to something else new that you haven't heard before. And that's basically it. And we have a Spotify playlist to go along with it. So every week, two new tracks get added to that playlist. That's the two tracks that we pick for what you heard. and if you follow the playlist, you'll get to hear those two songs before the episode even drops

because we basically will add it to the playlist right after we're done with this episode, recording this episode. Anyway, all right, Q, so what you heard? All right, brother. So we're both big fans of Panda Bear. Panda Bear. Noah Lennox. Noah Linux.

Yes. He is. Big fan of him. Q, what band was he in? He is one of, of the founding members of Animal Collective, which is another one of my favorite bands. And his solo work is also fantastic too. He also pretty much just brightens up any song that he's on. He shows up on a lot of random albums. A few that I'm thinking of in particular. You remember that

Atlas Sound song? Oh yeah, Walkabout. I love that song, man. Me too, dude. And I think most people probably if they don't know Panda Bear, they don't realize that he shows up in random access memories by Daft Punk in that Doing It Right song. Doing it right. And I'm talking about the things and I'm doing it right. I don't know the words. I don't think those are the lyrics. Close enough, though.

But he just popped up in an album that came out last year from a band called Teebs. It's actually just one person. Yeah, yeah. I know Tebes. Dude, I'm a big fan of Tebes. way before this came out. Teab is like an electronic kind of downtempo guy. Yeah, I haven't actually listened to much of his stuff. Okay, I'm actually, I actually am very familiar with this track that you're about to play, actually, because I follow Tebes. And so I got excited because this was a new Tebes

track, and I just thought it was kind of a bonus that Noah Lennox showed up on it. Well, this isn't new. This came out last year, brother. Oh, really? All right. Well, I stumbled upon it at some point this year. Yeah. All right. So this is a song from Tebes. It is on the album, Anica. And this song features Mr. Panda Bear on there. The song is called Study. His voice is so great. I just love his voice, and I love his songwriting. I mean, I don't know how much, I'm sure most of this was his writing because that's just a panda bear song. Yeah, definitely. I was singing that too. Yeah, anyways, man.

I just, everything that No Linux does, I love. Also, just side no edits because I just want to say this. My favorite Panda Bear album, if anyone wants to get into him a little bit more, is Person Pitch, came out in 2007. Give that album a listen if you liked what you heard just now. You will love it. Didn't I find a copy of that? Yes, and you gave it to me, brother.

It was one of the best gifts that I've received. Boom. You're welcome. It was, dude. such a surprise man because that that record is hard to find guess where i found it cam you don't have to tell me dude josie records if you live in heaven on earth man the df wrydb area swing by josie records it's off of josie if you know in case you need to know but if you do not walk into that store with at least a hundred dollars cash you're going to be putting stuff on your credit card it's

dangerous yeah yeah they have a section off to the left against the wall where it's more of the rare stuff. And I think that's where I found it. Wow. That's where the, that's where like, like I said, bring a wad of cash.

But yeah, anyway, good stuff. So, all right, Q, what have I heard? You ask?

Yeah. Let me tell you. What have you been heard lately? So I'm not going to get it, go, go into the whole backstory here, Q. You're not going to paint a picture?

I'm not going to paint any pictures today. Other than the fact that, this week is hack week this is something I know dude you know you told me but uh I am a developer

as I've said multiple times on this podcast the company I work for we do something called hack week once a year yeah dude he's just so giddy about it Travis has told me that's like twice in the last

it's a blast 24 hours anyway we partner with a company we're gonna we're gonna have to start a little bit later it's hack week I just wanted to let you know you that it was hack week Yeah, I know, dude. Anyway, it's hack week, like I was saying. And what that means is we have one of our clients is called Heifer.

Heifer International. They are basically like a nonprofit where you can, they're trying to end world hunger and poverty at you. That's the mission. Yeah, I get a postcard from them every year. There you go. So anyway, we basically spend a week working on a bunch of projects for them. And that's why we call it Hackweek, because the entire company is devoted to this one client versus, you know, we have dozens of clients that we work on throughout the year,

right? Anyway, so one of the things that we're doing, because we're virtual this year, we're doing it remote, usually we have people that can, you know, play music or something like that while we're coding, right? So I've been putting together a playlist of electronic music and I'm going to do, like we use, it's not called Turntable FM anymore, but you remember TurntableFM? turntable. There's several other sites out there

that essentially, you know, offer the same, you know, function, right? And you can tie them into Spotify, which is cool. Anyway, what I'm saying is, like, I've been going through and listening to a bunch of old electronic music from like my Electric Saturdays list from back in the New Dest Days. And anyway, I was a big fan of what you brought to the table last week, dude.

That op-offusk? Well, that was a brand new, like, video game soundtrack. Just happen to be electronic. Anyway, so this artist, he goes by box cutter. And to me, I'm only familiar with this one song that I think did it as an electric Saturday years ago. So I finally listened to the record. The name of the record is called The Dissolve.

He came out in 2011. And I bounced around and listened to a bunch of his stuff. He's kind of a drum and bass guy. So he's been compared to Eamon Tobin. and he also gets compared to Boards of Canada, which, you know, AIM and Tobin is very much drum and bass. Boards of Canada is more like IDM, right? A little more ambient, yeah.

Yeah, so this record is more along the lines of Boards of Canada. It's also got some synth wave vibes to it. So we're going to listen to a song called Passerby. Yeah, I like the electronic guitar element that gets thrown in there, you know. Kind of cool. Yeah, it's got a really cool. like dark, dark vibe. Yeah.

Which I say that a lot. Sure. And I'm just, I understand. I understand. But yeah. So this is insane right here. Okay. We did not coordinate this, you and I.

So I'm reading a review by the BBC of this record, a review that came out the year that it came out in 2011. And the guy says here, vocalist Brian Green appears three times on the record. And it says here, more. more like Panda Bear. What? Than any artist to be found alongside box cutter in the Dance Electronica racks. What? What the fuck?

So the person who reviewed this record. What are the fucking odds, dude? Back in 2011, referenced Panda Bear when talking about a vocalist that appears on a few tracks called Brian Green, who I'm not familiar with. Anyway, that's a fucking small world cue. Yeah, dude, that's kind of... That is wacky. All right, so here we got to talk about something that happened today. By the time this episode comes out, it'll be about a week since it happened, but

we learned late in the day that Eddie Van Halen died of throat cancer, I believe. Throat cancer, yeah. So for fans of rock music across the globe, this was pretty shocking today to hear this. because I mean dude I mean he has he has been elevated to god status and in guitar circles you know yeah so you just and he was like 65 I think so not even that old taken way too early and it's just hard to to think about um icons that are that larger than life you know yeah uh well dude you know you know what and he's shredding licks up there with Cobain he took a stairway to heaven and he's playing with, well, I guess, hold on and out.

Jimmy Page isn't dead yet. But, yeah, he's up there with other rock gods that have passed before him, if you believe in that kind of thing. But you know, why not? It's just entertaining the idea. Sure. But anyway. Yeah, it's, yeah, that hit me pretty hard.

It takes a little bit to process that. And, you know, we decided that we're going to close out the episode with eruption, which I think I may have talked about that. So the thing is we did a Van Halen episode not too long ago. Yeah. So if you go back a few episodes. I think we did it. I think we did him justice too.

I think I hope so. We played some cool songs. Yeah. We played a few tracks that were non-singles from three of their records. So if you go back a few weeks, you can listen to us, talk about Van Halen. And I'm pretty sure I talked about eruption and how much like plenty of other young guitarists like myself or just fans of rock music in general when you hear eruption you know you just the notes that are that are flying out of the speakers coming from you know eddy's fingers it's insane right

it's yeah you just throw in the towel right there and say just why should i even bother because i'm never going to be yeah yeah sure but no what it does is immediately you know every budding guitar player immediately learns how to finger tap after listening to that because you want to be able to I remember when you did. Yeah, you want to be able to try to emulate that as best as you possibly can. And you can, you never will be able to, but you can try.

If it wasn't Eddie that got you into finger tap and it was probably, Kirkham. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, you know, Eddie was kind of the pioneer of that. He wasn't the first to do it, but he was the one who made it what it was, you know, what it is. Yeah.

Anyway, so let's listen to eruption. We're going to close. going to close us out. So yeah, listen to some Van Halen. You know, it's time to remember how badass this guy was. Yeah, yeah. You can find us on no-fillerpodcast.com or you can check out all our show notes, look at the track lists for each episode.

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Or is it just at No Filler? It's at No Filler Podcast. There you go. Actually, you know what? If you go to our Twitter. account right now, I retweeted our Van Halen tweet because I wanted to put it up at the top. So if you want to listen to our episode... With that badass picture of Eddie.

That is a cool picture. Just shredding it. That's a really cool picture. Go to our Twitter account. You'll see a badass picture of Eddie. You can listen to our episode. All right. That's it.

We're done. This is it. Yeah, we're done. All right. Next week, we're talking about Fleet Fox's brand new record Shores. and we're going to have Eddie close us out with eruption. And that's going to do it for us this week. My name is Travis.

And my name's Quentin. Talk to you all next week.