No Filler Music Podcast - mewithoutYou - [A→B] Life: When Poetry and Post-Hardcore Meet

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

mewithoutYou's debut record [A→B] Life defies the genre labels one might be eager to place on it. Singer Aaron Weiss' poetic lyricism and spoken word-style vocals can sometimes feel emo, but his philosophical themes go so much deeper than emo's hallmarks of self-loathing and insecurity. And the impassioned screams and neurotic mumbling sprinkled so effectively throughout his vocal performances leave the listener just as emotionally gutted as the words Weiss is punctuating. Musically the rest of the band weave punk, post-hardcore, and grunge throughout the record in such a way that makes their sound just as varied and sporadic as the vocal performances. For fans of all of the above: this record is certainly one to put on and fully engage with. mewithoutYou - Bullet To Binary mewithoutYou - The Ghost mewithoutYou - Everything Was Beautiful And Nothing Hurt mewithoutYou - (A) mewithoutYou - Gentlemen Narrow Head - Night Tryst Smokey Robinson - Baby That's Backatcha mewithoutYou - Wolf Am I ( And Shadow) This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast networ, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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My name is Quentin. with me as always is my brother Travis. And today we are covering Me Without You, a post-hardcore spoken word rock band. It's kind of hard to describe these guys. But they are on the same record label as Emery, who we covered last week.

And we're covering their first album, A to B Life. I'm so stoked to rock out to these tunes with you, man. when was your first introduction to me without you? I mean, you're the one who showed them to me, and I think he showed me probably pulled to binary. Yeah. And which is the song that the introed us in. And yeah, kind of like you said, it's hard to classify these guys.

I think spoken word is really interesting. That is one of the things that really stands out. It's like you're hearing poetry. Yes. And which is, that's what it is, right? I mean, it's, it comes, it sounds that way, it comes out that way. That is his vocal delivery. Yeah.

And on top of that, he is a beautiful poet. Yeah. I mean, it's not just that he uses spoken word to, to give it that, yeah, that quality. Yeah. He is a true poet and these lyrics are haunting, beautiful, and, I mean, there's no other band like me without you. Yeah, I, that's what I was going to say. It's like, it really is hard. to put them in one particular genre because they are so unique.

And the way that he delivers his lyrics, like you said, just deliver that much more of a punch and like weight to the words, you know. Yeah. Now, Travis, you had read that they don't like to be labeled a Christian band. Yes. So, yeah, that's one of the things about them is that a lot of, a lot of, so these guys are, well, let's just go through the roster. real quick. There's, there's, I'm not sure what the, what the makeup of the record or the band was

for this record. Maybe I can find their personnel. Nope, I can't. But it was, at the very least, it's, it's these two brothers that started the band. Their names are Aaron Weiss and Michael Weiss. And so these guys are brothers. They're, they're of Jewish descent and their songs, use Jewish, Muslim and Christian imagery to explore spiritual themes. So because of that, because they have this Christian religious imagery in their songs, they get categorized as a Christian

band. But Aaron, Weiss, states that he doesn't think that they are a Christian band. So it's one of those things where it's like, well, you know, you write what you know about, right? And you write what's on your mind. So these guys are clearly very, very religious people, right? So, I mean, that's what they're going to write about.

But I guess to me, it's like, I have always equated Christian band equals worship music, right? And so it's interesting to think about a rock band that writes lyrics that are, that have Christian themes or other religious themes, but they're not a Christian band. It's interesting, right? So we'll just put it, let's think of it this way. Aaron Weiss, you know, he's a Christian and he's not going to hide it. Yeah, sure. He's not going to hide it in his band. Right.

But yeah, yeah, exactly. But, I mean, you know, I never thought of them as a Christian band. I mean, that's just because I'm not paying attention to the lyrics. Yeah, I've paid attention, like, focused on the lyrics in all of the albums of theirs that I've listened to. But, I mean, does it jump out? I guess. Oh, yes. Especially when you listen to.

their third album, Brother, Sister, which to me is, I think, their best work, which came out in 2005. Yeah, dude, it's straight up. Straight up. That's what he is singing about, you know, his relationship with God, God's relationship with man. It's all in there. Interesting. I mean, we don't, we haven't explicitly said this on this podcast, but we're not, not religious people. So it's funny.

But we didn't have a religious upbringing. We did. But it's interesting because, you know, to me, I'm like, well, it's going to be hard for me to connect to this music if it's explicitly about religion. But he's all, you know, he's singing about the human experience. Their lyrics also explore suffering, self-doubt. Everybody experiences those things, right?

Yeah. So I guess to me, if I hear, hey, here's a, if somebody comes up to me and says, hey, man, I got this Christian band I want to introduce you to. Like, I'm going to get shut off immediately, right? Like, I'm not going to be interested. But maybe this is telling me this is telling me. me something else here, you know, that I should leave all doors open, cue. Well, hey, man, Emory. Right. The Weeks in, one of our favorite albums. It's a, it's a Christian band.

It is. But I don't think that's the first label you throw on them. So, sounds like these guys are a little bit more explicit about it. Oh, yeah. So we are trying to keep this one short and sweet. And this is a sidetrack. We're not going to dive into the history of the album or the band. maybe we'll circle back to them some other time and give them a full episode. But again, we're covering A to B Life. Their first studio album came out in 2002. And there's no singles on this album. So because Bullet to Binary is one of my favorite songs,

we did play it as an intro, but that's going to be our first pick today. And dude, I have to play. I've got a few songs to play. So let's fucking, let's get on with that. it. All right. So let's play a little bit more of bullet to binary. There's so much to talk about. There's so many things going on. Would you consider this to be in any kind of metal vein? Yes. Yeah, definitely. Especially

that chorus there, that really heavy riff that gets thrown into there. That's almost got like a, almost like a new new metal flare to it. But I mean, also some grunge. There's some grunge. There's some grunge. influence that I hear in this like they're all over the map and that's what that's what I love about it and yeah dude one of my favorite parts of the song is when he starts busting out the French man singing in French I know for some reason I know he's just singing in French but it just sounds more intense for some reason I don't know why yeah just the way that he's yelling right yeah yeah and not to mention the intro is killer that intro is just so yeah perfectly executed it's so memorable too yeah yeah

Yeah, I wouldn't classify these guys as emo. I wouldn't either. Yeah, I mean, melodically, they're not emo. Nothing about the music, the guitar, anything like that, falls under email. And I've actually not seen that label on them yet anywhere I've seen. So maybe I shouldn't, maybe there's no reason for me to even bring that up because maybe it's not even up for debate. Like, I don't, I don't think these guys are considered email.

But some people might be quick to put that label on them because of the screaming. But it's not done in a way to me that's email whatsoever. So anyway, I'm pretty sure they've had the same drummer this whole time. His name's Ricky Mazota. And man, he is fun to watch, dude. He's a great drummer. So I got to see them back when I was in high school. And I just kind of want to, I'm not going to talk about the proselycizing,

but some of that happened from some of their roadies outside of the venue. Yeah. I'm over it. But so what I remember from that night, so it must have been early 2000s. The drummer had a bunch of like halfway dying, like wilting bouquets of flowers tied around all his symbol stands.

And so did Aaron Weiss. He held a bouquet of like dying flowers and he held it wrapped around his mic stand. And so with all the crazy movement and shit's going on on stage, the entire night, pedals were flying around and falling off of the stem. And it's just chaos, dude. Same with the drummer.

Like all the flowers were just flying everywhere. It was really cool. That's cool imagery. It sounds kind of email to me. So where did you see them? Did you see him at like trees or something? No, it wasn't trees. It must have been the door, dude.

I think I saw him at the door, which is technically a Christian venue. Did you know that, Travis? I mean, what isn't Christian is what I'm finding out these days. I didn't know that. Yeah. I guess it makes sense. I mean, you guys, the band that you were in, you guys used to play there almost exclusively. Yeah, we play there all the time.

And that's the, their sound guy recorded our, our two albums that we did. You guys had two albums? Yeah, we had two albums, dude. Oh, shit. Shout out to Joel Fruth. I'm sure he's not the sound guy at the door anymore, but I love that guy. Or listening. He's probably not listening either.

He might be. Anyways, so, dude, we've got to move along. Well, hold on, real quick, dude, I wanted to point this out. Same producer that did Every Nine Fireworks by Hey Mercedes. No way. Same guy. Same guy, different label. So that's, actually, no.

Wait, was, I don't think He Mercedes was on tooth and nail. No. So, yeah, there you go. This guy made his rounds, man. So, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, let's keep on moving, like he said. All right. Now, Q, here's the thing.

Here's my, here's an admission. I'm really only all that familiar with, with bullet to binary. So from here on out, I could be hearing these songs for the first time. Good, dude. I'm excited. All right. We're going to jump down, well, the next track on the, on the album. This one is called The Ghost. I got a couple clips to play here. So not only are his lyrics just like fucking beautiful, but his delivery is so passionate and intense, man. It gets me. Every time I listen to me without you, I'm caught up in whatever emotion, he's, he's, he's caught up in. Yes. You can definitely feel every, every feeling, every emotion that he's

trying to convey in those lyrics. Like, he delivers the feeling, right? He delivers the emotion. Yeah. I think, I don't know, but these might be, this might be the imagery, like the religious imagery that, that, uh, that they refer to. Because like in a lot of these lyrics, like, these seem like they're quotes almost. Yeah. Because all right here, in his silent sound was the peace I found. Peace as in like peace sign. And then like, but, but a tree once cut down came up new from the ground. Right. Those could be Psalms or whatever. Yeah. It could also be just his own words, but they sound very like, like you said, like a Psalm or something like that. Very yeah, prophetic. So here's what I do know about this album. Aaron Weiss was either dealing with currently or had

already been broken up. So he had just gotten dumped. There's like a lot of parallel. meaning in these songs about specifically his breakup and his ex. But it's not like overtly about that, you know. Yeah, man. I mean, it's starting to sound more and more like an emo album every second here. There we go. Yeah, it's lyrically, yeah. All right, dude, let's move along.

I got, but you know what? One more thing on that, though. I feel like every, well, I mean, what song isn't about love or heartbreak? You know what I mean? It's true. So, yeah, it's, the emo is when it's more, like the reflection is more on yourself as a failure. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's a good.

That's a good point. Yeah. So let me reserve that email label for a little bit later. We'll see if it gets thrown on. We'll see how it goes. All right, here is clip two. We're basically picking up where we faded out. Here is the second half of the ghost.

They align mostly with grunge to me, dude. the music, the guitars, it's starting to sound more like, more like grunge, which is like, you know, closer to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, then some of the other email stuff that we've heard. But yeah, I feel like it's, it's very much got a 90s rock sound to it. Yeah, and so I had to fade that out because, so one thing about this album, it flows really well, like, almost seamlessly from song to song. And I'm going to, we're going to dive into an example of that in the next song. But yeah,

you're right, dude. It's the heavy, it's the more heavy, grungy, post-hardcore 90s sound. Yeah, where it's not, it's heavier, but it's not, it's still not metal yet. You know what I mean? But it's getting there. Yeah. Yeah. So one of my favorite lines

again comes from this song, put music to our troubles and we'll dance them away. What a great line, dude. Yeah. I mean, shit, I want to get, give me that slapped that on my body. I'll get that as a tattoo. Yeah, I'm sure that's at the moment at the concert where you guys are dancing your troubles

away together in the audience, right? That's right. All right. So, and, you know, we don't need to keep reading lyrics because he sings very clearly. Like, most of the time, you know exactly what he's saying. Yeah, I mean, I will say, like, they're, you know, like, you just, you want to pay attention because, like, his lyrics are so interesting and, like, the way he delivers it is so interesting. Yeah.

he really, it's really hard not to, uh, to focus, to try to focus, you know. Yeah, but hey, let me read this last few lines because we're, we're trying to make the case of, you know, whether or not this is email. Yeah. And it's more of the same as the warmth that I seem to lack, you'll neither find in him. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Kind of reminds me of that emory song, you know? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's, it hurts me to think that you might find others better than me.

Yeah, I mean, he also says, but from my left eye flows tears of joy and sorrow from my right. So is he saying he's both happy and sad at the breakup? Yeah, I don't know, man. See, that's that poetic beauty. You might seem too strong to surrender, boy, but you're far too frail to fight.

Yeah, this is starting to sound email, did. Okay, so here's what we're going to do for, this is going to be the meat of the side track is we're going to play okay we've done this a few times where we play the very end of a song so that we can show the transition into the next song here's what we're going to do so this album again is called a to be live there are two little like segue instrumental songs I guess okay I don't know if they're not really songs are more like just transitions. One's called A, a little bit later on in the album, the other one's called B.

I see. And it's really cool. A totally different sound. And it basically just takes you from one song to the next. So we're going to play the very end of track 4, which is called Everything Was Beautiful and Nothing Hurt. That's going to take us through to the little A instrumental track. And then we're going to go straight into gentlemen and we're going to listen to

the majority of gentlemen. Okay. Gentlemen might be my favorite on the album. The lyrics are intense. We're going to read them. But just warning, they're a bit intense. All right, here we go. You'd better be alone.

Yeah, lyrics are great, man. You don't, you just don't hear, you don't hear, you don't hear stuff like that, you know. The way that he delivers it, the imagery is, and the emotion that's delivered, I'm going to just fucking say this, dude. This guy delivers the screaming and the emotion tied to it better than most emo people do. Email people. Emo band.

Emo singers, you know what I mean? I think so too. Because it's fucking genuine, dude. It feels genuine to me. Yeah. And I was tempted to play this whole song, but, I mean, we've been playing a lot of full tracks lately, dude. We got to give our listeners something to, you know,

something to look forward to if they want to revisit these songs. So this song specifically is about a stalker. But there's double meanings in the lyrics. He is singing about, he's also singing about his

ex. I don't know if it's girlfriend or wife. So this song is about that relationship, but he's also, it's written from the point of view of a stalker. Okay. Yeah, because I'm reading the lyrics too.

I'm trying to figure out where, uh, because yeah, to me it read completely as a breakup song. Well, but so, so here we go. Um, second verse. I call and when you hear that heavy breathing for the sound of your voice. So, you know, a stalker would call you and just not say anything and just, you just hear nothing but heavy breathing on the other end. Yeah.

Okay, okay. Well, maybe like this first lyric too. We never met you and I. Exactly. inside. We were somewhere inside one another. Exactly. Like we've never actually met. And I'll live without you, love. Okay. I'm starting to see it now because like this is this is a stalker who is

who is obsessed with this person. Obsessed with this person. Yep. We'll never live. I get it. I see it. It's all starting to connect. Yeah. So now let me read what you started there because this is one of my favorite me without you lines. And I'll live without you love, but what good is one glove without the other? Just poetic beauty, man. I just love that kind of stuff. Well, okay.

Well, to piggyback on that, one of my favorite lyrics that jumps out of this song, So I Wander and I Wander, Your absence beating inside my chest, I try but I can't remember the color of your eyes, just the shape of your dress.

And the way he delivers the line is what makes a killer. I know, man. That's one of my favorite moments in the song, too. He's punctuated lines where he ends it with like an exasperated cry, you know? Yeah, dude. Of emotion, like a frustration comes out of him almost. Yeah, it's just really well done.

All right. So, now this is one of those albums. You better listen to it from start to finish, you know? Yeah. And we could have spent another hour talking about these guys. Yeah, there's something very unique about this record, no doubt about it. And I think a lot of it is, you got to credit the, mainly the way that Aaron delivers his lyrics and just his lyrics in general. I mean, that's what makes these guys worth paying attention to, worth listening to.

Yeah. So I have only listened to A to B Life, their second album, Catch for Us the Foxes, and their third one, brother, sister. And he kind of tones down the yelling a little bit. So it's all that spoken word type sing-songy voice, but he, yeah, he dials it down a little bit with a screaming. And all three of those albums are fantastic. Key, let me make an admission to you. Okay. So back in the day, when you, when we were both in high school, we were, what year did this come out?

This came out in 2002. Okay, so we were we were freshmen. 15. Yeah, 15. I shied away from music like this or I might listen to it, maybe acknowledge inwardly that I thought it was kind of cool, but then I wouldn't pursue it because I did not want to be associated with that scene, quote unquote. Yeah. And I'm admitting that that that was, you know, silly of me. But I would listen, the irony is I would listen to metal music and never think to associate

with metal heads. Sure. Purposely. I shouldn't say purposely, but, you know, I had different notions of what a metal head was. You know, probably thought that they were all drug users, you know, getting stoned and shit. But I'm just saying, like, now that I'm fully removed from youth, like, I can go back and listen to these guys and appreciate what they were doing. You know what I mean?

And I'm probably going to queue up and listen to them tomorrow like all day. Please do, man. Yeah. Because like it's funny how sometimes you can circle back to bands that you may have like brushed off back in the day for whatever reason. And you're like, man, this is actually really good. How did I not see this back then? But, you know, there's always different reasons for that.

But maybe it's just more like the more you listen to me. If you're somebody like, if you're like us and you spend a lot of time listening to music, diving in, doing deep dives into music, and then you can start to see the influence and hear bits of this and bits of that. You know what I mean? That's to me what I'm appreciating when I hear these guys now. Yeah. Is everything that goes into the sound, you know?

Yeah, dude. Yeah, man, definitely check out, catch for us to Foxes and brother's sister. And I might have to just keep going and listen to their newest stuff past, brother-sister and see what they've been up to these days. All right, man, so that's it. It's funny, dude. Our side tracks are starting to become full hour-long episodes, but that's just how it is when you're listening to bands that you really love.

And it's actually, you can't help it, dude. I had to play all these songs. Yeah. Sometimes it just calls for it, man. Yeah. So, watch your hurts. Travis, I'm going to let you go first, brother. What's you been heard lately?

Dude, this was a great day for me, musically. Two bands that I recently have fell in love with both came out with new material today. One of which I tweeted about. So if you follow us on Twitter at No Filler Podcast, you may have seen me tweet about the band Hum. And they put out a new record for the first time in 22 years today. Wow. And it's good. I did not want them to be, because I had to decide basically between these two bands,

because I knew I was going to bring one or the other to the table. But I went with this other band called Narrowhead, which I... Oh, you love these boys. Absolutely love these guys and everything they do. They just announced a new record that's going to come out in August, and they put out a single today called Knight Tirst. Or Tirst? How do you?

Trist. Night to Trist. That's right. Man, it's great. So obviously I went ahead. I pre-ordered the album. I bought a fucking shirt. I'm all in on this.

And dude, here's another quick story before we play this song. I'm so bummed because last week they must have had some more copies of satisfaction lying around, which was the album that I brought to, I think it was one of my watch your ears last year or earlier this year. And they, on Twitter, they're like, hey, we put the last 20 copies of satisfaction on band camp to buy, the LP. And I saw the tweet maybe 45 minutes later and they were already sold out. I'm like, son of a bitch. And if you go to like, if you go to eBay or you go to like discogs.com, the record sells for like 200 bucks.

So it's rare. So I'm really bombed, dude, because I would have grabbed that in a hot minute. Yeah. So anyway, I made sure that didn't happen. And I ran ahead and pre-ordered this new record. Anyway, uh, so yeah, let's listen to the single. These guys are kind of like a grunge revivalist band and they do it better than other bands that, that would be classified as kind of like a grunge revival.

these guys are great. All right, so this is a song called Night Trist. That's fucking great, man. I fucking love these guys. Really well done. I mean, like, the way that they combine all these grunge sounds. I mean, you know, all these different styles of grunge, like, pulled together really well. And that's the thing that, like, I want to be careful about because, like, yeah, it's funny when you say, when you can,

pick bands that were clear influences to these guys. Smashing pumpkins. Smashing pumpkins. Yeah, obvious. So here's the funny thing. There's a stereo gum article that came out today that's talking about this.

And I went to the first comment. Somebody says, saw these guys open for death bells a couple of years back. 30 seconds into their set, I thought Stone Temple Pilots check. Then smashing pumpkins check. Then Allison change. dot, dot, dot, you get the drift.

It was glorious, highly recommended. So, yeah. But, but, like, I guess what I want to say is, like, it's easy to say, hey, these guys sound like this and that and this. But this is just another grunge record, another grunge band, you know what I mean? I think it's, because there's a difference between people who are doing it, I think, to sound like to, to almost like mimic the sound versus, I think these guys are, I don't know. Do you know what I'm saying? Like it's hard.

Yes, absolutely. Because a lot of times you will hear bands, indie bands and be like, oh, well, they're clearly just trying to do this versus these guys, this is how this is, I don't know. It's hard for me to describe this. You remember last year when every what you heard that I brought was a psychedelic. Psychedelic rock, yeah, garage rock band. Yeah. And yeah, there were a few of them where you were just like, man, this is just fucking carbon. copy. Yes. Like, there's no, there's nothing new here.

Right. You're saying narrowhead is the real deal. Yes. And they're bringing new ideas to that genre. Yeah, exactly. It's, it is that, it's the sound. It's that, that sound. Like, they're borrowing from, but improving.

Yes, they're borrowing, but they're doing it in their own unique way to, to, to, where to me, it's not a, a, a gimmick. I mean, not to do this again, but it's not a gimmick in the way. that Greta van fucked Oh, dude, I knew Greta van fleet I knew you were going to bring them up

if we continued to talk about this. I think it's a really good comparison to me. It's Greta van Fleet. They get a lot of shit, man. They get a lot of shit. Greta van Fleet is doing lead Zeppelin

and that's all they're doing. There's nothing unique about them. They're just doing a lead Zeppelin knockoff basically versus these guys. You can't, it's hard to. You know, I still got respect for Greta van

Fleet only because they're making they're making money doing that. But that's exactly because they know what they're doing. He sounds so much like Robert Plant. Yeah, like that is what they're doing. They know what they're doing. It's not a secret to anybody versus. And that's the thing. Yeah, that's all I'm going to say.

I think you either agree with me on that or you don't. There's probably a lot of people out there that like Greta Man Fleet. They're listening to this. But I'm just saying narrow ahead to me is the real deal. Yeah. And they're from Houston too. they're Texas natives, which is great. Cool.

Anyway, all right, Q, what you got? What you got for us? What you've been hurting lately? All right. So, I've been flipping through my records and dusting off some records that I haven't listened to in a while. And we actually did a sidetrack on this album a long time ago. We did this as a sidetrack to our shot a episode.

Actually, you know what? We focused on a quiet storm, which was like a radio, which is like a term that. was used for a specific type of like jazz R&B kind of radio that hit the scene, I think in the 70s. Some DJ coined the term, but he pulled it from this Smokey Robinson album called A Quiet Storm. And Chate also uses the line of Quiet Storm in one of her songs, maybe more than one of her songs, but anyways. It was like a kind of a nod almost, right?

Yeah, exactly. So I listened to this record again the other day. It is so fucking great. We played the song Quiet Storm, and we also played track two, The Agony and the Ecstasy. Way back then. It was like, shit, probably two years ago now, dude.

I was one of our early episodes, yeah. Yeah. So after those two somewhat mellow tunes, he fucking drops a banger on track three, and we're going to play that one now. This song is from Smokey Robinson's 1970, record A Quiet Storm. This song is called,

Baby That's Back at You. It's hard not to groove. I know, dude. I was grooving big time over here, man. You should have seen me. I like it. Good stuff, dude. The whole album is great.

Yeah, so that's Smokey Robinson song from his 75 record, A Quiet Storm. All right, Q, if you're a listener out there and you're tired of, the screamage. Well, we have another email band lined up for you. So you're going to have to listen to another emo band.

But this particular email band is a different flavor of emo. There's no screaming. There's no, I mean, there's no distortion at all almost, dude. This is a very light. Lots of acoustic driven. There's acoustic stuff. Yeah. But I would say that we have shied away.

We have managed to. avoid any of the whiny emo type of vocal delivery. That's where I draw the line, dude. But I was going to say, I think this guy's got some whinage. Okay. But we keep saying about this about these records that we've been talking about, but there's something unique about this record. There's something, maybe that was just tooth and what tooth and nail did was try to

try to attract bands that were slightly different. Yeah. But to me, again, it comes down to the song structures. And the way that these guys approach their melody, how they approach their arrangements. So we're talking about a band called May, M-A-E, and we're talking about their debut record, Destination, Beautiful, which sounds emo already, just the name of the album. Now, let's also bring up that of all the records, that we've covered so far in our back-to-school bus tour, this one's up there for me for nostalgic feels.

Yes. We listened to this album over and over and over and over and over. You're right. This one, for whatever reason, connected to us the most. And I think, and maybe we'll save this for the episode, but I think what I was drawn to was the arrangements. Like to me, I think these songs are a little bit, I don't know. Let's save this talk for the next one.

Okay, all right. But you're right. But you're right. I don't know, dude. I'll have to gather my thoughts over the next week so that I can come to the table with something intelligent to say. But yeah, I think this is a really great record. I confess I haven't really gotten into much.

more after this from from these guys. I wasn't really a fan of what anything else they did for whatever reason. But maybe I agree with them. Who knows? But anyway, also I wanted to give a quick shout out to a listener of ours. His name's Alex. He resides in Russia. He gave us a little tweet, gave us a little suggestion for another band in the Emory vein, which is what we were asking for. last week we said if you have if you know any other emo bands that that are in that style send them our way and he suggested a band called silverstein or maybe silverstein not sure uh and he specifically suggested their debut album which came out in 2002 called when broken is easily fixed and it's good stuff it's very similar with the juxtaposition between very heavy

screaming and more pretty poppy harmonizing. I liked it a lot. Yeah, I listened to some of it. Yeah, I thought it was pretty accurate as far as like bands that are similar to, to Emery. Yeah, I think so. So thank you for that, Alex, and thank you for listening. And with that being said, if you want to chat with us, we're pretty damn good about

responding on Twitter. and we like to get engaged with our listeners. And I'm excited because this is from day one. This is what we've been wanting out of this podcast, is to connect with other music fans, share music, and have other people share music with us and kind of open up dialogue. And that's what's finally happening and it makes me very happy. Our Twitter handle is at No Failure Podcast.

You can also find us. on the Pantheon podcast network. We are part of the music network filled with other great music podcasts. You can find us all under the Pantheon podcast umbrella. If you search for Pantheon pods, you will find us, or you can find us on our website, no filler podcast.com. There you can stream all of our shows. You can dive into our show notes, where we cite all of our sources.

and, you know, we'll throw in a music video or live video here every now and then. That's no-filler podcast.com. And for the outro, I didn't really, I couldn't really think of any, like, other band to play along with me without you because, like, there's no other band like it. So we're just going to play one of my favorite songs from what I think is their best album, Brother, Sister. We're going to fade us out with track three on that record. it's called Wolf M.I. And that's going to do it for us today. Am I missing something, Travis?

I was just blabbering on. All right, cool. You got it all covered. Awesome. All right. We will be shouting at you again next week. Thank you, as always, for listening. My name is Quentin.

My name is Travis. Y'all take care.