No Filler Music Podcast - Mysterious, Uncontrolled, Free: The Music of Pencey Sloe

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Doomgaze is exactly what it sounds like: a blend of the slow and sludgy pace of doom metal with the wall-of-sound and ethereal vocals we've come to associate with shoegaze. Pencey Sloe is a French band that appear to have unintentionally stumbled into this label, or as lead singer Diane Pellotieri often puts it, their style is "completely uncontrolled, free, and blind." While the "doom" part of the label certainly applies during the heavier and sludgier moments of their music, what stands out most about Pencey Sloe is the melancholic, darkly luminous beauty of the vocals and lyrical themes. We chat about their debut LP Don't Believe, Watch Out and look ahead to the upcoming record Neglect that drops this fall. Tracklist Don't Believe Watch Out Buried Them All All Ok Gold and Souls Sins What They need This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We love what the kind of music we listen to when we wear kids. And so now it's very easy to pick the thing we loved as kids and mix it to create more sub-genders and wear new words. Welcome to No Filler. I'm Travis and I got my brother Quintz. I got my brother Quentin with me as always. And, man, I just threw myself off, dude. Yeah, you missed the whole spiel. Well, if this is the first time listening to No Filler, this is what I usually say.

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dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gems to fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. There we go, cute. Now it's all. Yeah, it sounded like you were reading from a cue card, dude. It's just the whole thing's off now, man. You know what, it's fine. I don't even think we should record today.

Just kidding. So who are we talking about today, Travis? You know what, this is going to be the best episode we've ever done because of that. Yeah, so in that introduction clip that we played there, that interview clip, let me get her name but that was the lead singer of the band that we're talking about today which is pincey slow her name is diane pelletieri pretty sure i said that right well let me tell you something dude i'm in love yeah what do you mean by that i'm a sucker for for that french accent dude okay yeah adorable well that's the thing so um i thought this was kind of interesting because

the last episode that we did, you know, last week was our watcher heard. So that's not, you know, your typical episode. But the last band that we covered was a Russian shoe gaze band called Pink Shiny Ultrablast. This week we're talking about a French shoe gaze band from Paris. They are called Pinsie Slow, as I said. And that, the interview question that she was answering was basically, you know, talk about shoe gaze and black metal and maybe some of the similarities between the two. Yeah, I agree with her 100%.

Like the more she was, you know, describing the way those two genres came up, you know, around the same time and the same vibes, like the melancholy kind of stuff, all that, the heavy ambience and all that. Totally, dude. Yeah, this was an interview that she did with postpunk.com post-dash,000. post dashpunk.com. And yeah, she expanded a little bit more. She basically, yeah, like you said, she talks about how they both have sort of this melancholic sadness

to them mix with like dark, luminous and ambient sounds, right? So, I mean, a lot of times, though, when you think of shoegaze, you might not think of darkness. You know, I mean, sometimes shoegaze is this very warm blanket kind of sound, you know what I mean?

Like lush guitars and stuff. Like that. Right. The wall of sound just kind of envelops you. But the wall of sound can sometimes, can certainly be ambient, right? And like, and luminous, right? Oh, yeah. And that's some of my favorite parts about shoegaze. Yeah. Is when it's, you know, just ethereal and like heavy. Yeah. And as I mentioned, this is considered a Doomgaze band.

Actually, I don't know if I mentioned that yet, but that's kind of what their whole. thing is and we did a whole episode on Doomgays. I would highly recommend you go back and check it out if you didn't listen to it. That one and the one before. That was a fun, a couple of episodes that we did. We did a random shoe gaze episode where we just pulled. There's this really cool shoe gaze roadmap that I've referenced a few times. I think I've got it posted on our Instagram account. But basically we just threw darts in a way and just kind of, well actually we We played shoe gaze groups that were featured on that roadmap, and we headed towards the more and more heavy side of the roadmap, inching towards like doom gaze. And then we just, then we did a full episode on doom gaze.

So yeah, there's lots of great shoegaze and, you know, heavier doom gaze kind of music that is featured on those two episodes. Yeah. And we referenced to this, this article featured on medium.com quite extensively because it was, it's kind of like the. definitive, I guess, article on DoomGaze. If you Google DoomGaze, like it's like the number one result, right? And basically, I'm going to read the introduction from that article again, because I think it describes it perfectly. He says, imagine heavy, droning, metallic, wall of sound riffs instead played at the pace of a Doom metal record. And over the top of that, add lighter tones, melodies, and the ethereal vocals of Shugays to create a balance of sound.

The soft, heavy contrast is core to what makes up doom gaze, and it becomes a recognizable defining sound once you've stuck your feet into a dozen or so releases. So I like the soft heavy descriptor because that kind of reminds me of, you know, the pixies loud, quiet, loud formula that they came up with, right? Sure, yeah. Because that's what's, you know, what kind of defines this sound is, it's, it's. It's the heavy and sludgy and slowness of dew metal mixed with the lighter, ethereal, softer vocals and perhaps like melodies and stuff like that. And it makes this really interesting contrast.

And I think Pincey Slow, compared to some of the other bands that we talked about on that episode, I would almost put their shoegay sound more toward the dream pop side of the coin. And so, yeah, I mean, you know, you know, since shoe gaze is, you know, there's a spectrum of sounds and shoe gaze, right? They lean more toward the dream pop side of it, right? I'm really excited to hear more stuff from them because I haven't really revisited this group other than, you know, the music that you brought to that episode. So, yeah, they, they stood out more than any other group, I think, that you brought to that episode. Yeah. And if you'll remember, I actually brought a new single. of theirs, a couple of what you heard's back. Over the last couple of months, they've put out

a few singles off their upcoming record. And so, yeah, if you like this after we're done with this episode, you got new music to go check out immediately after this episode, and you've got a whole new album to look forward to, I think, coming out in the fall. So anyway, let's just jump right into tunes, Q. This is going to be a short and sweet episode. There's not much to say about this band. There's not much out there about this band, to be honest with you. They don't even have a Wikipedia page. So they're pretty obscure. Yeah, we could. We could, dude. So let me just say this here. So I thought this was interesting. The way that the band started, the lead singer, I mentioned her name was Diane. This is how she said it. She says, I had two vintage guitars

at my place that nobody was using. I took the opportunity to start writing songs merely to past time. I discovered incredible emotions and from there I couldn't stop writing. Eventually I shared my compositions with friends Valentin and Clement. They proposed that we should do something with it but without any expectations just for fun and that's how the band started. Bortem, no job and no money avoiding to become mad and crazy. So it was just a hot like a fun little thing that they decided to do. Something to pass the time. Sounds like. And basically. you know, they started not all that long ago, maybe 2015, 2014, I think is about when they started. So it's still relatively new.

But, yeah, it was just kind of like a thing, you know, she said, I guess she lived in a house maybe with some like flatmates or something like that, some roommates. And they, you know, there's, because I, you don't just accidentally have two vintage guitars in your home, right? I mean, it had to be somebody's guitars. It sounds like music wasn't like something that she had a lot of experience with. It was just kind of a happenstance kind of thing. Like, you know, let me just start strumming these guitars that are just laying around in my house, you know, and just see what happens.

Yeah, they weren't her guitars, it sounds like. Yeah, they just happen to be there. What luck. Yeah, I know, right. And vintage guitars at that. That always helps. All right, well, let's just play the first song here. So the record that we're talking about is.

called Don't Believe Watch Out, came out in 2019, so relatively new again. And the first song that we're going to play here, I think does a good job sort of setting up the idea of Doom Gates. I think this is a really good song to listen to. If you've never really heard a Doom Gay song or, you know, for that matter, you're curious, like, well, what could that sound like? This is a pretty good example of it. So here we go. This song is called Buried Them All. I think I've said this before. on the podcast, but I think this is it for me, dude, as far as like enjoying. Yeah, and that's, doom. Dume gaze is it for me, dude.

And like, yeah, I can get into this. And if for those who don't know, I think this might be the biggest difference between us to twin bros, dude. You have, yeah, I think so. For the longest since middle school, I think that must have been when you latched onto it. You've been into metal. I, I didn't call you a metalhead because I know you've called. You've had to stop yourself before in the past because it's apparently like a sensitive thing in the metal community.

Well, I mean, no, it's just, it's more about like I don't. I think you got to, you got to earn that label, man. You know what I mean? A metal head, a true metal head. But you're a big fan of it. And I've just never, I never got into it, dude. And you've tried. Like you and, you know, shout out to our old pal Mitch.

he's he's tried too dude you guys have really given it a fair i don't think i gotta say i gotta say i don't think we've tried hard enough so well um but every once in a while i'll i'll play you know it doesn't happen very often but sometimes i'll have a metal song in one of our what you heard episodes and typically you're just you know just not not pushing the right buttons for you i i always enjoy the music side of it it's usually the voice that i can't get into it's the it's the It's the guttural screams. Well, that's, it's an acquired taste, I think. Yeah.

But this stuff, this, Doomgaze, I'm all about it, dude. And I love, so with Doom Metal, right, part of it is that, I think we've tried to describe it before. It's kind of hard to do, but like the drums, it, everything sounds like you're just sludging through like, I don't know, waist high mud. You know, like everything's slow, slow down. It feels like it's dragging on. Like the drum beat, everything is just kind of slow. Yeah, I mean, there literally is the term sludge is often used to describe. Right.

Doom metal. Yeah, I like that. I mean, sludge metal is even a genre. But that's, yeah, that's the slower. It just feels like this thick kind of like slow pace, you know what I mean? And that works perfect. perfectly with shoe gaze, dude. Yeah, it works really well. It is such a great pairing.

It helps. It's, you know, the other side. Like, it's, it's the wall of sound, but, you know, more like she was saying earlier, melancholic, right? Because I would, I would describe most of shoegaze as, you know, feeling you with a sense of, like, joy. You know what I mean? And even something like my bloody Valentine, which, you know, I know, I know a lot of people that don't just do not understand even my bloody Valentine like they like loveless specifically like they can't get into it but even

an album like that which is so heavy on the feedback and the distortion and the fuzziness even that gives me like this like you said earlier it's just warm fuzzy feeling yeah even if it's kind of jarring like it's still you still like it's just this energy yeah yeah it's the it's the way

sonically it's just yeah it's very warm yeah so doom gaze kind of does the opposite it's the same the same wall of sound in the sense that it's just like hits you you know but it's gonna be a little slower a little bit sludger but her vocals um i think yeah like you said very similar to it it's dream pop vocal's dream pop yeah and same with like the the effects that are on her voice the way they recorded it and you know i guess the way they uh produced it yeah it's very very very, very shoegaze. But, yeah, with those, that metal attitude. Yeah. And what's interesting, so here's another interview that she did with metal1.Info. So this is a metal website. Here's the question. I have the impression that you make music that sounds a lot more raw and rock oriented than most shoegaze and dream pop bands.

Do you pursue this approach with a certain intention? In other words, are you like, are you doing? doing this on purpose. She says, it's the music that influences me the most, yes, but it was without intention when Pincey's slow began. We simply wanted to play music together. I wanted to learn from the beginning and quite naturally I took the lead in the compositions. It felt odd since I didn't know what I was actually doing. And then a style came out and around the compositions. A specific style would have been unnatural because we carry things out blindly. And that's something that she actually said in another interview too she keeps talking about how she wants she likes to approach music in a naive way she said that specifically which i thought was it made perfect sense they're not trying to make any

certain type of genre they're just making music and she's drawing from her influences the stuff which maybe are you know more rock bands you know and so that's going to influence the music and she's just going to sing the way she's going to sing and and and and if you're she's writing songs that are more about subjects that are maybe more sad and melancholy, then that's how the song's going to sound, right? They're not trying to do anything in particular. And I think that's interesting. And yeah, and time and time again, like that just seems to be the case with so many great bands.

Yeah. You know, like the one that comes to mind off the top of my head, Kim Gordon picked up a base for the first time when she was messing around with Thirst. and more. You know, like, and it just, she created this unique bass playing style because she was figuring it out as she went along. Yeah, I think that's, that probably helps a lot because, you know, if you're classically trained or whatever, then you're going to come into it with all these preconceived genes, yeah, ideas and like ways that you were taught, you know, or on how to compose a song

and blah, blah, blah, versus somebody's like, well, you know, there are a couple guitars laying around of my, the house I lived in, so I just grabbed it on and started strumming, you know. Yeah, and started playing the kind of stuff that I like. Exactly. All right. Let's jump to the next song here. So this song is called All Okay. Through the verse.

That was really cool. Yeah, melody's great. Her vocals are great in that song. And I, you know, shout out to the guitar player. Let me, you know, I think I named them earlier, but I didn't associate them with their instruments. So the guitarist is Valentin Bocourt, and that's a terrible, you know, Western pronunciation of that word, I'm sure, of that name. Bocourt, you know, these are people are French. So there's probably a much more elegant way to pronounce that.

And then the drummer's name is Clement Al-Nois. Apologies for the butcher there. But anyway. El-Noir, is that what you said? Something like that, sure. Yeah, A-U-L-N-O-I-S. No. You know what?

I took Spanish in high school. Yeah. I should have took French. That's obvious now. Anyway. Well, you know, growing up in Texas, dude, you know, it makes sense to take Spanish. Yeah. Sure.

It does. But anyway, so I believe that Diane also plays like rhythm guitar. but what I like about, you know, you hear in the background, there's also this very prominent lead guitar that's doing this more like very reverb heavy, but like single note type melody, right? It's not doing chords or whatever. And I think it's very interpoli in some aspects.

Like, I wish I remembered his name right now, but the guitar player for Interpol. And again, that's kind of what she was talking about. in that interview clip that I play in the beginning how nowadays with the internet how you could just listen to any song at any time it's easy to pull from these these bands maybe that you listen to growing up and make these new subgenres right we talk about that all the time how like bands that like narrowhead who are kind of reinvigorating and reimagining genres from the past are able to do it in a way that

sometimes makes it better than the original, you know, because they're able to pull from, from everything, you know? Just like that, you have access to Nirvana's entire discography, right? You don't have to go hunting and pecking and record stores to try to find all this stuff, right? And we've got access to, like, bootlegs. Yeah, besides, anything you want. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Right. So, you know, I don't know that they were influenced by, by Interpol or anything like that. But I mean, they were certainly, I'm sure they listened to some post punk from the 2000s just like we all did, right? So anyway, yeah, I love that song. But my favorite truck on the record is coming up next.

There's something, the melody on this song is just one of those like hooks that just will stick in your head. And this is a very, you know, I think this song in particular, and some other tracks on here are neither Shugays nor Doom Metal, I mean, or not even a mixture of the two. It's just kind of these beautiful songs that I think are just kind of unique in their own right. I mean, I kind of felt that way about all okay, the one you just played.

Yeah, and that's the thing. Compared to some of the other Doomgays bands that we played in that episode and just in general, they definitely, if it's, you know, a left, like a spectrum or whatever, they're way more toward the dream pop shoegay side and sometimes they sprinkle in these slower sludger guitar riffs but they are certainly leaning more toward dream pop than anything right and that comes through for sure and especially in some of their newer tracks the ones that they've been releasing the last two months they're kind of going in a new direction which i'm excited about i think they're probably coming into their own, right? Now that they've been doing this for, for, you know, a few years. But anyway, let's jump to the

next track here. So this song is called Gold and Souls. I think reverb's my favorite thing to happen to electric guitar. Yeah, I agree, man. I agree. And that particular combo of just a nice clean guitar tone with just a tiny bit of fuzz plus some reverb, I think is a great, a great tone, guitar tone, right? Yeah, and like you mentioned earlier, dude, Interpol nailed it with his guitar tone, dude. Yep, absolutely. Yeah, great song, man. Yeah, it's just, you know, reverb is supposed to sort of mimic like, you know, you're in a,

you're in a room and then sound is bouncing off the walls and stuff, right? That's kind of what it's supposed to. Exactly. That sort of like feeling or whatever, that imagery, I feel like goes very well with melancholy and like emptiness and sadness. I think it helps accentuate songs like this. It makes it feel cold. Yeah. If the music had a temperature, it'd be cold.

Yeah, sure. And well, yeah, we were saying that shoegaze is warm. So doom gaze. naturally would be a little bit colder, right, if we're going temperature-wise. But yeah, her voice, I think, also is what really, really sells it, man. Like, her voice is just this beautiful voice, you know. Yeah. And it has such, like, emotion behind it, which is interesting because she said, you know,

when she started playing around with a guitar and writing songs, she discovered this emotion is what she said, which is interesting. Because that's what music does, man. It draws out emotion. And so I think it's interesting that somebody who just kind of like, hey, you know, let me pick up this guitar, see what happens to. Like discovered, you know, music was a way for her to, you know, an outlet, right, for her, which I think is really, really special.

And that's what music does, man. Yeah, absolutely. Let's actually jump back into this track because I think something really interesting happens. So let me just pick up over where we left. off here. Again, this song is called Golden Souls. I love that. I can see you getting into it, dude. I'm watching you. You watching me, dude? Oh, yeah, this is. It is. It is. Yeah, you know, you can, you can feel that emotion, man. Yeah. You just, you can't. And yeah, I like that, the bridge, I guess, there. I was, I was looking for the proper term, the bridge. You got it,

I think. I did it. And, yeah, how it comes right back into the chorus, just really well done. And, yeah, I just, I love that song, man. It's great. All right. Well, let's just jump to the last track here, Q. I know you got dinner to make, so I don't want to keep you from the kitchen. Make a Thai curry stir fry.

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Well, if you listened to our Doom Gaze episode, this song is going to sound familiar to you because I played it. But it's a really great song. And so this is, I think, a good one to close us out with because I think it's another good example of the Doom metal side of this band. And again, more so than anything, these guys lean toward Dream Pop. So this song does a really good job combining the two in a pretty obvious way from the beginning. You'll kind of hear what I'm talking about. but this is another beautiful song

and yeah this is gonna be our last track so this song is called sins just solid man and like

they follow the song format you know like they they follow the format in a faithful way verse chorus verse verse you know

like you kind of know you kind of know what to expect with it but it's just solid man and like good really catchy hooks

you know like they they got them dude yeah it's just enjoyable listen. You know how I said it was going to be pretty obvious the doom gaze aspect of it? At the intro. Yeah, the super slow. But then it immediately turns into more of a dream pop song, I guess, you know. But that that main riff that was going through through the song kind of reminded me of heart shaped box by Nirvana. At least the riff, the intro riff. And then at the very end of that clip, I, Got some like pixies. Where is in my mind kind of vibe?

Maybe I'm grasping a Strauss here, but like the singy songy kind of thing that was happening in the background. I don't know if you picked it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get you know. Kind of reminded me of so like, you know. Yeah. Drawn from 90s influences a little bit. She was asked in one of the interviews like what are her favorite shoegays artists,

not favorite artists in general, but what are your favorite shoe gaze artists? And so, you know, she wasn't really able to expand much on perhaps some of her grunge influences. But she did say the Jesus and Mary Chain was a big influence. I still haven't really given them a listen, man. Me neither. But yeah, let me just give her full quote here. She says it's quite difficult to choose a favorite artist. Yeah, I agree with you on that.

Because they are all very different. Shoe gaze is such a varied genre however If I had to choose one It would be the Jesus and Mary chain Because it's the one that allowed me to dig And find every other shoe gaze band They clearly opened my mind Nice

So she's given props to them Because that was her Sounds like that was her gateway into shoegaze Yeah Which is a big deal right I mean you always remember your first right I mean that's how I have You know I continue to have love for for loveless

Specifically from my boyfriend Yeah for that same reason Because it kind of opened up the possibilities of music, right? Yeah. Like, oh, there's a whole thing I haven't even explored yet, right? Anyway, so, yeah, she talks about 90s, UK shoegaze bands. Yeah, right here she says there was no clear influence, rather.

I could speak on 90s music as an influence in general, right? So there you go. That means grunge, right? I mean, it has to. But she says your Pinsmy Slows, right? The whole thing. Pinty Slow's music so far is a mixture between us three bandmates that was done naturally. Not only UK Shugay's music we enjoy, but also, for example, the American blues culture, which is interesting.

Hmm. Which would also be a large part of our influences. Yeah, that is really interesting. I don't know if she just means the melancholy, like the themes of the song, lyrically and stuff. Right. But that's really interesting that she pointed out specifically American blues. But anyway, one more quote to close us out to you. This metal1.1. info interviewer asked her,

what exactly do you think is the quintessence of your music? I've never heard quintessential just said as quintessence, but I'm not saying it's. What's the quintessence of your music? There we go. That sounds great. which could be Quinn, if you ever became a stripper, that's your nickname. Quintecence. Something, she goes, she says, something inexplicable and mysterious, young and spontaneous,

completely uncontrolled, free and blind. That's, come on, that's perfect. She says, I don't control anything, and I am not sure I want to know more. I prefer to feel and explore music in a naive way. So there's that naivety that she talked about earlier. But I just love that description of their music as being completely uncontrolled, free, and blind. That is exactly like, I think we've quoted this like a couple times now. Deliberated.

Susan's, yeah. Yeah. Rock fully liberated. Yeah. That's the way you know how she approaches it. That's how she approaches it. She doesn't care. She doesn't want to know necessarily about.

what they may or may not be sounding like. She doesn't want to get put in a box. Yeah. It's just however it comes out is how it comes out, you know. Yeah. All right. And that, you know, that's that kind of hints at why, you know, the stuff that they're dropping today, like you said,

it's sounding like there might be kind of rediscovering themselves. Yeah. And I think what's interesting is, you know, the people who are trying to classify bands as doom gaze and doom gaze as a, as a genre and community, I guess, trying to sort of become a thing. It makes sense that Penske's Slow would be put into that camp, but it sounds to me like they weren't trying to intentionally do that at all, right? They just happened to have some slower, sludgier, more rock-oriented guitar riffs

mixed into their dream pop. And so you can kind of throw them in that camp, but they kind of defy genre in that sense, right? Yeah, that happens a lot with bands. Like they get thrown into a genre and they're, a lot of times they're not happy about it. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, right? Humans, we like to group things together, don't we? Right.

Usually to our detriment. And so, like, obviously, we got to put them somewhere. Doomgays kind of makes sense. But like I said, they've got three new singles out that you can listen to right now that are really interesting and have me really excited about their new record. Why don't we outro out with one that, that you didn't play? back in June. I think it was Smile to Zero. So we're going to play a song called What They Need

to close us out. But I have an idea for next week, Q. Since you just talked about how DoomGaise is a stepping stone for you to metal, I know that we've both talked about this record and you really liked it and so it's time to do an episode on him.

The band I'm talking about is another band I believe we featured on the DoomGaze episode. Is it depoily? No. you typed in there the first. Oh, yeah.

Deployly. You know what happens when your your fingers are shifted one key over? Sure. We're going to talk about a band called

Spotlights and we're going to cover their record seismic. Oh, you know what, dude? On 2017. I totally forgot about

spotlights and that might be my favorite band of the Doomgays bands that you brought to the table during that I mean, can you just wait a little bit?

I mean, Pinty slowly is fresh in our conversations here. Now you're shitting all over. Had it and shit. But I really, okay, those two bands, Pincey Slow and Spotlights, my two favorites from the bands that you brought to that episode. What's great about Spotlights is that on the Doom Gaze spectrum, Pinsie Slow is more two gays, whereas Spotlights is more due metal, right? Cool.

We'll get two sides of the coin. Yeah, exactly. And this record is amazing. And it is proper, it's proper metal. Awesome. Fencey Slow, not really metal. Sludgy for sure, but not really metal. Versus Spotlights, really great songs.

This is going to be a great episode because we're finally going to get some metal and do a full episode on it. Dude, it's been two years, I think, since we did proper metal because I think that was when we did a metal month, yeah, for October in 2020. Was that 2020 or was that 2019? How long ago was that, man? October 2019, dude. almost three years. Well, I think it's time to do another metal month, dude. Maybe we can do that in October.

Okay. Next week we'll talk about spotlights. That's going to be a great episode. In the meantime, check us out on Instagram. Just search for No Filler Podcast, and we will pop right up. Follow us there. Reach out to us there as well. We love hearing from listeners.

Give us an idea of the bands that you're like, what are you listening to right now? We wouldn't know. What kind of bands would you like us? Like, what's your favorite Doom Gaze band if you listen to DoomGaze? What's your favorite Doom Metal band or Shugays band or whatever band? I'm always open for suggestions, always looking for new music. Yeah, and a lot of times what we'll end up doing is, you know, a listener will reach out to us on Instagram. They'll tell us a song to check out.

And then we'll include them on our next what you heard episode as like the outro track or something like that, right? Or in the case of that suggestion from Marita, we ended up doing a whole episode on Swerve Driver. Yeah, that's true. All thanks to her. And I'm all about Swerve Driver now. Yeah, that record's great. So that's that. Find us on No Filler.

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The song is called What They Need. Thanks for listening, as always. My name is Travis. And I'm Quentin. Talk to you all next week.