No Filler Music Podcast - No Filler Rewind - Warm Blanket: The Music of the Sundays

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

We continue our rewind episodes for the month of November as we conjure up fall vibes with music that pairs best with a warm blanket and a nice cup of cider. This week we listen back on our chat about... the dream pop group The Sundays and their 1992 record Blind. The Sundays - Goodbye The Sundays - I Feel The Sundays - Life & Sand The Sundays - On Earth The Sundays - Wild Horses This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Welcome to No Filler. Travis here, teeing up this episode for you. And as Quentin laid out last week for the month of November, we will be reaching in to the vault and pulling out episodes from No Filler's past. albums and artists that conjure up the fall season changing leaves and autumn breeze and whatever else that you associate with fall you know this week i'm going to the 90 we're going back to the 90s baby got to play for you a band that i admittedly have slept on for a long time so we're talking about the sundays dream pop band and the title of this episode i think describes this
Starting point is 00:01:24 music the best and that is just to call it a warm blanket that's what it feels like a nice hot cup of cider or cocoa you know so here we go again this is one of three rewind episodes you'll be getting this month leading up to our new episode that we will drop end of the month on fleet fox's self-titled record which kind of caps it off in terms of bands that conjure up the fall season and then And then, of course, in December, you will get our best of episodes, best of 2025. So we will do four more episodes where we will dive into our picks for our favorite new tracks of the year. So look forward to that. We're going to try to get Mitch along one of those episodes as well.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So if you've been a fan of him this year, you will get one more dose of Mitchie in 2025. All right. So here we go. This is the Sundays. and on this episode we cover their 1992 record blind and we will talk to you guys next time. Take care. All about that is good part.
Starting point is 00:03:08 A way about that is good by. You've got to blast. You're maybe up to us soon. And we're exactly the same. Oh, no, no. Talk about yourself, so, so, so. And welcome to no filler. the music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gems that fill the space between
Starting point is 00:03:58 the singles on our favorite records my name's quentin with me as always is my brother Travis today we are covering a little band called the sundays and we're going to play some songs off their 1992 record blind and yeah this this group popped up on some spot it was probably my Discover Weekly and it just I think it was this song too that so that intro that we did was the only single I believe on this record
Starting point is 00:04:31 it's called goodbye that yeah that was the first time that I ever heard any of their stuff because I don't I purposely try to stay away so I could be you know going to this fresh right and yeah I think I think your
Starting point is 00:04:45 your comparison last week to the cranberries was good I can hear that a little bit. And I feel like that's more in like the tone of the guitar maybe and maybe the, yeah, the riffs and kind of how they approach recording. And I think like the range of her vocals is kind of similar to Owardian. I always butcher her name, but Dolores. Dolores Orrdean, I think her name is. It's a tough one, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm intrigued, man. I'm happy about this. Like, I'm stoked. And I think you're right. This is a good, this is a good fall vibe that they're putting out. You know what I mean? It just makes you conjure up warmth, like you said, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah, dude. You know, I think last year, maybe the year before, we spun up Cold Place Parachutes because we kind of agreed that that was a good record for this time of the year. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Well, yeah. let's get into it yeah and we're kind of just i'm just flying by the seat of my pants on this one dude
Starting point is 00:05:55 so i don't have much research on them dude that's the only way we fly around here but guess what dude here's what wikipedia has to say so they're formed in the late 80s it's an english alt rock band so we've got harriet wheeler she's the the lead singer david gavarin is the guitarist uh we've got paul brinley on bass and patrick hannon on drummer on drums and I am rusty dude I am rusty yeah you know what Q we all we all um we're not gonna judge you well here's another thing dude peek behind the curtain we're recording this at so it's it's 1015 in your neck of the woods it is yeah you're right pm because this is the only time you know if i'm going to be able to record it's going to be after we put ronan down to sleep so I'm not used to record
Starting point is 00:06:50 this late. This is the after hours no filler that you're hearing right now. Yeah, exactly. My body's still not used to, you know, we moved our clocks backward, right? So my body still thinks it's 1115. Well, let's hope that this is the last time we have to do that. You know, it's on the table, right? Yeah, I've heard. I've heard. I, you know, I actually like it getting darker outside sooner. I don't know why, but, you know, I'm not going to lose any sleep over. Well, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be upset if if we get rid of this this you know
Starting point is 00:07:24 archaic ritual you know what I mean who is wanting this to continue I don't know some farmer some sort of farmer no no dude that's a that's a total BS I mean that's the origin of it right
Starting point is 00:07:39 no it's not it's I forgot what the hell no dude it's a that's a like a it was some some company like what of course it's kind of like it's kind of like that that breakfast cereal brand that said that breakfast was the most important meal the day oh so it's all marketing yeah yeah yep always the case dude don't quote me on any of that but it's moving on yeah we're probably did wrong on that anyway
Starting point is 00:08:06 the point you're trying to make is you know maybe we're a little sleepy right now and so we might say some stupid shit but that's fine because this musical will wake us up you know that'll give us the energy that we need that's right dude and really i don't have much else on these guys you know i got the roster for you so you know their names if anyone cares about that but really we're just going to jump right in the tunes yeah we don't we just need let's just get right to it man this music is going to speak for itself let's do it all right we're going to jump right into track one dude drop the needle this is what you hear all right again this is the sundays album this is their studio album from 1992. It's called Blind. And this song is called I Feel.
Starting point is 00:09:16 But I'm losing the world And I'm living in the world And I believe I take your feet When it flows And the people by the river side And I'm walking, walking on water And gone there's wine And I'm losing the world
Starting point is 00:09:44 Lising words are mine Oh, new, celebrating your life And get to your soul You know That's a whole Like me like that Oh, I was doing Just give me your love in here on both my eyes
Starting point is 00:10:20 I'll shout you go out of my love I'm wasting my breath when I say that Oh Thank you. I feel that's a great song. I feel that that's a great song. And I have lots of feels. I listened to that song.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Nice one. Well done. Yeah, I was, you know, I had that. formulated right when I right when you told me the it doesn't matter what the song how I ended up feeling about it
Starting point is 00:11:51 fall yeah I was going to make a joke like that but no a lot of great things in that song like the you know obviously the chorus you know that that's sort of like vocal the way the vocal is going to open up there right
Starting point is 00:12:05 and then that really cool guitar breakdown that kind of sounded like a shoegazy kind of tone and an effect on the guitar there and you know what dude they got the dream pop label on them yeah and you know what okay well this is a good way i think to to do what we always do right and ask the question of like what's the difference between dream pop and shugays i think when you listen to a band like this and you listen to my bloody valentine right afterwards it's clear it's pretty clear cut you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:12:34 this is very dreamy yeah this this to me is dream pop it is very poppy and dreamy but the The fact that, you know, you heard a little bit of that shoe gaze guitar sound, but it's just, it's used sparingly, you know what I mean? Yeah, no. But like if for Dream Pop in the 90s, because that was the label that they slapped on pretty much anything that was in the shoe gaze vein, this is what I'm going to point to as, you know, a good representation of Dreampop in the 90s or maybe the Cocktow Twins. And then Djangle Pop is also referenced here as a genre.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Now that I can get behind as well. You know, coming off of last week's Grunge, Alt Rock kind of Shoe Gage revival with SoulBlind. This is definitely a left turn. We've been heavier, on the heavier side of grunge and shoegaze. I think we need to. Which is my comfort zone, cue, you know. We need to get dreamy. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And how about we do that by playing the next song? What do you say? Let's do it. Let's do it, sir. So the next one that I am bringing, track three on the record. So this one is called Life and Soul. Where are the sun, down by the sea? Ooh, do you know, what are you know?
Starting point is 00:14:32 Water bound is cool, with life and song, Where I see? We're going to see We're going to be. Ooh Here I know. Oh my sea, oh my blue, oh my blue, oh my sin, oh my sweet, oh my blue, oh my sin, oh my soon, oh my all my see you
Starting point is 00:15:43 all my sea Oh my see So my see So my name All my sake I love that, dude, the second half of that song is just, it just repeats that line over and over and just fades out. Yeah, I love it. I feel like I'm being rocked to sleep, you know, by an angel.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Being rocked by the sea. Is that the name of the song? No. No, but that's the last line there that repeats, it's all my sea, all my blue. It's singing about, like, the ocean shore and diving deep. I got to say, that's a risk to play that song at 10.30 at night, dude. I almost fell asleep. But that's a compliment, because that's, yeah, beautiful, man, beautiful.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And very, like, yeah, hypnotic, you know, especially the way that she repeats the line at the end. Yeah. And the guitar, you know, it really, it kind of sounds like a lullaby, you know. And you know a lot about lullabies right now, don't you? Dude, don't get me started, man. Have you played this song for Ronen yet? No, no. I've been doing a lot of Aurora Food Fighters.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Oh, dude, I used to fall asleep to that song. Me too. Back when I was a kid. Maybe you both listed. Yeah. I would put it on a repeat, like, you know, back in the day with Walkmans, right? if you had a fancy one there was a repeat button dude are you stealing my memory because i used to do that i put it under my pillow i put it under my pillow i had one of the zimpy three players with speakers in it
Starting point is 00:17:48 and i put it under my pillow so it'd be quiet enough but i could hear it and i had on repeat we had the same childhood cue the same life it seems like so interesting i didn't know you did that too dude and it was a reward too that's a really good lullaby and you know what else is good dude ever long if you slow it down a little bit ever long it's great it's great it's It's a good lullaby. I agree. So here's the deal, dude. What's the deal, Q?
Starting point is 00:18:15 They found out in early 93 that the Sundays was named one of Winona Ryder's favorite bands. I don't know. I just want to throw that in there. That is relevant, I think. Because who doesn't like Winona Ryder? Especially nowadays. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Thanks to stranger things. so the uh you know the hip alt rock aficionados versus were you know starting to pay attention once this second album came around i assume that went on a writer but was a was an alt rock aficionado i don't know things that make you go hmm you know what i mean i'm feeling loopy right now dude it's weird it's weird i'm off too and i think that song just just put me in the right state of mind right now just to kind of float well something really interesting dude And this is, I got that Winona writer information from this article from 93. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Where Ed Condren interviewed David. And guess what, man? I thought this was like, cool. It's kind of unconventional in the way that they write their songs. But it's Wheeler and Gavron, who writes most of the songs. And Gavron says, the way we write is, I'll put down a lyric, and Harriet will write the next line. I admit it's kind of weird since I don't know how many other writers work that way, but it works for us. We like that a person can be writing a song one way and the other person
Starting point is 00:19:45 can take it on a completely different tangent. That's dope, dude. So this amazing song that we just heard, whoever put down the first line, here dive below, the other person wrote, here I go. And they go on from there. We're on the shore, down by the sea. Here I go. Water Under is cool. We're the life and soul. I mean, it's cool to think about, man. That is cool.
Starting point is 00:20:12 It's coming from both of them. Yeah, that is cool. And then the last two lines, it's all my C, all my blue. So that's how they wrote the song? That's most of the song. Yeah, it says actually it's the only way we know how to write. Hmm. That's cool, man.
Starting point is 00:20:27 They're kind of giving you their formula. Yeah, their formula. That's cool. Well, with that in mind, dude, let's jump into my next pick. which is you know what i think we're just going to play it the whole track all the way through like we did with this one it's just over two minutes long this one is track five on the record it's called on earth Sarah
Starting point is 00:21:07 Sarah you live and you love and know as you know As she's walking on the edge of the crowd Late at night taking Lepid down Down from town Sarah's a thing that's watered down It's a little bit more
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah To live Yeah To live Beyond Dear and I Unless you said, what's in my thought? I want to ask me something to say, but don't want to fly, because I'm going to leave it.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Because I'm in the way to find. Unless I believe you've heard from my life and mind. So what you need is a lot is why. I tell you, up to you, set up to you, that's what I come. On the room of this house, I don't know, I tell you,
Starting point is 00:22:54 one of the world, come on down, come on down. it's a perfect pop song man you know it's so this is 92 right i think i want to say that the cranberry's first record you know we'll kind of put them on the map and stuff is or what made them so that you know they were just so refreshing compared to all the machismo and the testosterone you know what i mean those coming out and so like i'm getting the same i think coming off of last week's episode, you know, it's just, it's just nice.
Starting point is 00:23:32 This is like a palette cleanser, you know what I mean? I bet when I know and a writer was into the cranberries. Oh, freaking 100%. All right. So here's who I'm getting, who I'm reminded of. And this might just be because running up that hill blew up this year because of Stranger Things, but I'm getting Kate Bushfimes. Talk about stranger things, huh?
Starting point is 00:24:01 And I think Elizabeth Frazier, too, since we talked about cocktow twins. Yeah. You know, let's just name all the female singers that. Right. I think, you know, with Elizabeth Frazier or whatever, like, she's one of the things that you always, you know, what she's known for or whatever is like how ethereal, like, more traditional, like, singing style that was like, you know, sometimes. operatic and shit not not literally but I mean just like yeah more of a traditional singer I get that vibe from her with the way that Harriet Wheeler sings you know it's a very pretty style of singing that and their song structure is is like for a you know a pop band
Starting point is 00:24:43 their song structure's different right like that that last song on earth it really didn't have a verse chorus structure right it just kind of took you along kind of told this short little story and then it was over like it didn't didn't really, there was no bridge, there was no circling back around to a verse, you know, like it didn't repeat itself in that way that most traditional songs do. And it was over before I knew it, right? Like, I could have set in that vibe for way longer than two minutes and 22 seconds. Yeah, it is funny because, like, it's a short song, but it almost feels like it ended too soon, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah. but it was but but it was so like complete too yeah it was it was definitely a like a finished thought or whatever but at the same time it's like oh you know it's over i wish it would i wish it would keep going you know what i mean i wish there was another another verse well and they wrap it up with a nice pretty bow right because in the middle of the song the questions asked could a heaven on earth be ours here and now and at the very end it says i tell you when a heaven on earth is all ours come on down and a heaven on earth is all ours but not now this song reminds me of san junipera i think i've talked to you about this episode of black mirror um that it's a movie
Starting point is 00:26:07 length episode it's probably my favorite out of the whole black mirror series it's a it's a love story and it's set in the i'm i can't give it away dude i was going to say it's said in the 80s but it's not that's all i'm going to say anyways this song This song fits perfectly in that story. Anyways, let's play my last pick, dude. Let's get this over with, dude. We're all over the place. This is a weird one.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Time to get to sleep, you know what I'm saying? Well, dude, I mean, not to call it weird, but this is definitely a very unique entry into the no-filler catalog. Like, we don't talk about bands like this very often. So it is different. Like, it's funny that we're doing this at 11 o'clock at night because this band is very sleepy time. You know what I mean? I feel like I need to be that that, yeah, I need to be that bearer on the sleepy time tea packaging right now with my little like pajama hat on and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah. You know, my PJs on like with this music with my, with my camo meal and stuff. Well, if I remember, dude, this last one that we're going to play, it's actually a little bit more lively. All right, good. Let's pick it up here. All right, we're jumping down to track eight. This song is called What Do You Think? Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:54 Will you take any message I need all I can't stay Yeah I'm so funny Yeah I need I mean
Starting point is 00:28:16 I know just read my lips I get a message I'm sick as a dog but I'll just say this you're sick of So what do you think about me? What do you think about me? And everyone's around me
Starting point is 00:28:46 is trying to mess out. Oh, you're like that. It's not. Now, slow down. Oh, days are. I'm such a I'm such a
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, you're saying I'm excited I'm such a See it all, there's lives to deal Let me say my fingers Soon you work to rest in the way I'm sure I have it turned back
Starting point is 00:30:04 about me can't live without me well everything about me was driving the moon tell you I got this home and I don't want to turn so wild
Starting point is 00:30:25 you're going so wild you're going away from a down a man Yeah, this song had more, like the guitar style had more of a little bit of a little bit, they still had a little bit. And I feel like I'm hearing some of that in this, in this guitar style, here like you know we're still you know one foot in the 80s or whatever does she is she what's i'm trying to place the accent they're from bristol england okay okay okay okay cool i like the i like the pace of that like i like the um that's what i get from this band is what always it stands out to me the pacing
Starting point is 00:31:20 the pacing of this their songs yeah the song structure yeah very very cool they're yeah she and whoever else is is coming up with the lyrics of it really really good it's her and david right and they're doing the back and forth thing. And that's probably why we get these unique song structures. Did they do that for every song? Dude, it says in that... Is that literally how they do every song? That's kind of what he's hitting it.
Starting point is 00:31:43 He says here, actually, it's the only way we know how to write. Wow, man, that's really cool. I mean, it's like a game of telephone or something, or not telephone, but like a game of, there's some game, dude, where that's how you do it. You go back and forth. with with somebody right there's just some game dude yeah but have you like have you have you heard of those like those things were like like madlibs yeah mad lives maybe kind of like you write a sentence you pass it on to the next person yeah add on to that sure you know what I
Starting point is 00:32:17 mean it goes to the next person but that's that's interesting and how they just spell it out for us too it's like yeah this is how we write songs would you put them anywhere near r em maybe maybe some of the, maybe some of the guitar. I mean, there's that jangliness. I mean, that RARium had a lot of jangly guitar. Yeah. Especially, uh, murmur. You know, and that's probably just what I'm thinking of as murmur.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And the album after that, reckoning. Yeah. The first two REM records, which came out in the 80s, which is what I was saying, like, that jangly pop kind of like sound that R&M started. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I can hear that. But not, I wouldn't say in the way that, like, Michael Stipe, you know, approaches his song structures and stuff like you know of course he was very very like unique in that in that
Starting point is 00:33:02 aspect of it but yeah i can hear it maybe in the in the guitar guitar stylings you know but yeah i i you know i feel like the one word i could say after listening to these four songs is like i'm just intrigued by these guys they're just there's something about them that's interesting and different yeah so apparently this record is the writer of this article says here blind was recorded with an array of overdubs and is significantly more baroque than its bare bones predecessor. So this is when they kind of took a turn in the way that the overall sound of their albums felt, you know, like the vibe, more overdubs, more baroque. That's where that, you know, kind of jangly dream pop comes about.
Starting point is 00:33:48 And then they had another album after this one called Static and Silence, which brought them their most successful single. It's a song called Summertime, which made it to the top 15 in the UK. So, and then after that, they kind of went on hiatus. So they just got these three albums. And it was five years in between Blind and Static and Silence. So, yeah, I'm intrigued too, man. Now, I'm curious about what the bare bones sound is from this band with their debut.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And I'm curious kind of where they take the sound after Blind. Do they still make music? I mean, have they done what a bunch of 90s bands have done and kind of like how to come back and whatnot. So it says on Wikipedia, you know, it's got it all broken down by the records and like the time frames between these records. And then it says 2014, possible return.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It says in April 20, yeah, and that was back in 2014. No update since then, so I guess not. It says they responded, first let's see if the music we're currently writing ever sees the light of day. And then we can get on to the enjoyable globe Trotting meets concert planning stage. So I guess I never saw the while today because I was in 2014. That was nearly a decade ago.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And I don't see anything else on here about any other music from them past 1997. So that's a big no, dude. So this is all we got, these three records. But anyways, give this album a listen, dude. Press play on track one, dude. You will not be dissatisfied. all the way through. And to top it off, dude,
Starting point is 00:35:27 and we're going to outro out with this, the very last song on the record, which apparently only shows up on the US release, which was on Geffen Records. They cover the Rolling Stones Wild Horses, which is one of my favorite Rolling Stone songs.
Starting point is 00:35:43 All thanks to Bojack Horseman. Shout out to the other horseman fans out there. This song shows up in that show. and they do it justice, dude, and they put their Sunday's stamp on it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So that's what we're going to fade out with. And that's all I got, brother. And I would like to wrap it up. It smells like my wife's making cookies, dude. So I've got to get out there and get me a piece. That sounds amazing. Anyway, who we cover next week? Are we going to do Cocktaught Twins?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Who are we going to cover? Are you saying right here right now, dude, that you can commit to another 10 p.m. recording. Possibly. We'll see. I can't promise you doing a 10 p.m., dude. Or what time is it over in your next? Seven, eight? It's nine o'clock.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Nine. But you know what, dude? Usually I'm spending this time with Sarah because we finally get Ronan down and it's just us. Well, but maybe, dude, I might be able to. That's fine. We'll see. Cocktail twins?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, I think cocktow twins can be good. Now, you know, can we get by without playing heaven or Las Vegas we'll see I love that song do it as an intro we usually let singles slide on intros you know yeah I think there was a couple singles cherry funk right cherry colored funk I know was one of them having in Las Vegas is the other one let's do that next week because I think that's a good a good segue from the Sundays and you know brings us a little bit closer to shoe gaze you know what i mean it brings us back a little bit but still i think stays true to this left turn that we've taken here yep sounds good dude all right cool and then hey man
Starting point is 00:37:32 before you know we're gonna we're gonna be doing our our countdown of best best of 2022 i can't believe it's already here man no this was a great year for music man it's gonna be hard for me to narrow down my faves yeah so i'm with you all right Let's just, you know, let's get out of here, dude. It's time for me to go to bed. It's sleepy time. As always, you can find us on Twitter at No Filler Podcast is the handle. I meant to say Instagram, my friends, do not reach out to us on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I'm pretty sure we still have a Twitter handle. I might as well delete it at this point. Yeah, don't. Please don't. Message us on Twitter. Instagram is where you can find us at No Filler Podcast. Reach out to us there. And as I promised, we're going to fade out with the Sunday's cover of the Rolling Stones' Wild Horses.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So that's a song that was originally on their 1971 record Sticky Fingers, and this is the Sunday's rendition of it. That's how we're going to fade us out tonight. Thank you, as always, for listening. My name's Quentin. My name is Travis. You all take care. Turned living is easy to do you know, it seems like to know, it seems like to know, it seems like to know. It seems that too much
Starting point is 00:39:16 And I bought them for you. Graceless lady You know who I am And now I come in to you. slide through my eyes A wild horse said Could it drag me away A wild horse said
Starting point is 00:40:08 Could it drag me away Oh, I watched to suffer But don't ache and pain And now you did something Just to show me You're seeing you And a sweeping
Starting point is 00:40:44 like it Oh, stage lies You made me feel bitter Or did you and go A wild horse sad could it drag me away?
Starting point is 00:41:18 A wild horse that could it drag me away? You know It's sweet to you It's been broken And deepness because Hey, let's be aside living. Oh, I'm going to die. Hey, everyone, Brian Slabel here, founder of Metal Blade Records.
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